Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 9072, for Moses Hunter, New York

SERVICE
New York
Hunter, Moses Rundle, Elizabeth
R. 9072
Former widow
CONTENTS

State of New York City & County of Albany ss: } On this 16 th day of November A.D. 1842 personally before the Justices Court of the said City of Albany (being a court of record having a Clerk & Seal) appeared Elizabeth Rundle a resident of Waterford in the County of Saratoga in said State, aged Seventy Eight years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by the acts of Congress passed July 8, 1838, and the 2 nd of August 1842, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the revolutionary war. That She is the widow of Moses Hunter, who was a private in the Revolutionary war enlisted in a company of Infantry Commanded by Capt. Adrial Sherwood and that prior to signing enlistment said Moses enlisted at Stillwater, Saratoga County attached to Col. Dubois Regiment. That said Moses was stationed as such soldier in the month of July 1780 at Fort Ann in said State of New York as a scouting party to guard the Northern frontier. That in October of the same year the enemy sent a strong force to Fort Ann & said Moses & the whole of Captain Sherwoods Company were made prisoners & taken to Canada & Confined in Montreal & Quebec about Three years as deponent was informed at the time and she always understood from said Moses and believed to be true, - she knows that he did not return until after the peace of 1783. She also declares that she was married to the said Moses Hunter in arrangement in the year Seventeen Hundred & Ninety one, that her husband the aforesaid Moses Hunter died on the fourteenth day of December A.D. 1814; that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first of January Seventeen hundred & Ninety four, viz at the time

above stated. She further declares that after the death of her said Moses Hunter she was married to Jacob Rundle on the tenth day of November A.D. 1820. That he died on the seventh day of August 1837, and that she is still a widow, & that in consequence of infirmity she is now unable to write her name.
Elizabeth her Rundle mark
Subscribed and sworn in open Court this 16 th day of November 1842 W. H. Hamilton Clerk
State of New York Albany County ss. I William A. Hamilton Clerk of the Albany Certify Justice Court, that above declaration was made in open Court this day.
Witness Gerrit S. Fox Salom Peggy Lewis before Justice of the Peace Court and before them. Dated at Albany this 16 th day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand nine hundred sixty two
By the Court W. H. Hamilton Clerk

V No. 8520
Elizabeth Randle
Moses Hunter
NY.
acts 7. July 38
& 23. Aug. 42
9072

State of New York Warren County ss.
Andrew Hunter of Stillwater in with said County being duly sworn says that he was well acquainted with Moses Hunter formerly a resident of said town of Stillwater & husband of Elizabeth Rundle now residing in Waterford, that this deponent was born in the year 1797, that said Moses was an Uncle of this deponent & reputed to have been a soldier in the revolutionary War, that this deponent was present at the death of the said Moses which occurred at the town of Stillwater aforesaid on the 14 th day of December A D 1814. That this deponent was well acquainted with said Moses Hunter & Elizabeth Rundle his Wife and knows of their being together as Man & Wife and living together as man & Wife from about the year one thousand Eight hundred and three nearly all the time until the time of his death - This deponent further says that after the death of the said Moses Hunter, his Widow the said Elizabeth was married to one Jabez Rundle which marriage took place on or about the 10 th day of November A D 1820. That said Jabez Rundle died on the seventh day of August in the year 1837 and resided with said Elizabeth in the town of Stillwater from the time of his marriage until the time of his death. That this deponent was not present when he died, that said Elizabeth Rundle is still a Widow and now resides in Waterford in said County. This deponent further says that he has made diligent inquiries for the purpose but has not been able to find any Town, County, Parish or Church record of the Marriage of said Elizabeth to said Moses Hunter - this deponent further says that said Moses Hunter never resided at any place to his knowledge except at the said town of Stillwater.

that this deponent never knew of any other Moses Hunter except the by that name who is a Cousin of this deponent and aged about forty nine years and now or lately resided in the County of Allegany in this state & is a Clergyman -
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 21 st day of November 1842. } Andrew Hunter Ashbel Palmer Justice of the Peace of the County of Saratoga aforesaid.
Saratoga County } I Ashbel Palmer one of the Justices of the Peace of the town of Stillwater in said County do hereby Certify that I am well acquainted with Andrew Hunter the deponent named in the foregoing affidavit and that he is a respectable and Credible Person and entitled to be believed - Witness my hand this 21 st day of November 1842. Ashbel Palmer Justice
State of New York } Saratoga County ss } Phebe Hunter of Stillwater in said County aged Eighty Six years being duly sworn deposes and says that she was well acquainted with Moses Hunter & Elizabeth his Wife formerly residing in said town of Stillwater; That said Moses was a brother of the husband of this deponent, that said Moses Hunter resided in the town of Stillwater aforesaid in the year Seventeen hundred & Seventy nine resided in said town ever since that time until the time of his death in the year 1814 except while he was absent in the year 1777 1778 1779 1780 in the revolutionary War or as a Prisoner, that this deponent well remembers that in the year 1780 said Moses Hunter went to enlist (& enlisted as she supposes) in the Revolutionary War in a Company commanded by Capt. Sherwood, that said Moses had been absent some months when deponent heard that Sherwood's Company were killed or taken Prisoners by the British & Indians that it was about a month afterwards

...some months, when deponent heard that Sherwood's company were killed or taken prisoners by the British & Indians, that it was some months afterwards before deponent heard in part & when she did it was that he was taken prisoner and carried to Canada, that said Moses did not return until the year Seventeen hundred & Eighty three & he then came to deponent's house and told them of his captivity.
This deponent further says that Mary Lawrence now a resident of Waterford in said County was a daughter of said Moses and Elizabeth Hunter & was born in the month of January in the year Seventeen hundred & ninety two. That said Moses & said Elizabeth Hunter lived together as Man & Wife as early as the year Seventeen hundred and Ninety two, & were reputed to have been married previous to that time. That said marriage was reputed at the time to have been made at the town of Stillwater aforesaid by Robert Campbell a Clergyman of said town & where this deponent then resided, although this deponent was not present at the marriage. That said marriage did not take place until after the year Seventeen hundred and Eighty three. That said Moses Hunter & Elizabeth his Wife lived together at the town of Stillwater aforesaid from the time of the birth of their daughter the said Mary Lawrence nearly all the time until his death in the year 1814. That said Mary was their only child. That said Elizabeth widow of said Moses Hunter was married to one Jabez Rundle in the year 1820. That said Jabez died in the year 1837 and that said
...credible person and entitled to be believed -
Witness my hand this 21 st day of November 1842 Abel Palmer Justice of the Peace, of said County.

Elizabeth Rundle widow of said Moses & of said Labor now resides in the town of Waterford in said County of Saratoga. That by reason of infirmity. She is made unable now to write her name.
Note the year 1780, 81, 82, 83 erased before execution -
Subscribed and sworn to this 21 st day of November 1842.
her Phoebe H. Hunter Mark
before me Ashbel Palmer Justice of the Peace, of said County of Saratoga.
Saratoga County ss I Ashbel Palmer one of the Justices of the Peace of the Town of Stillwater in said County do hereby Certify that I am well acquainted with Phoebe Hunter the deponent named in the foregoing affidavit & that she is a respectable & credible person & entitled to be believed. Witness my hand this 21 st day of November A.D. 1842. Ashbel Palmer
State of New York Saratoga County ss. Samuel Morry being sworn says he is acquainted with Elizabeth Rundle now

State of New York Saratoga County ss. Samuel Morry being now sworn, he is acquainted with Elizabeth Randle now a resident of the Town of Waterford in said County - That he was acquainted with her when she was the Wife of Moses Hunter of Stillwater in said County - That he knows that said Elizabeth and said Moses lived together as Man and Wife previous to the first of January Seventeen Hundred and Ninety four and has no reason to doubt but what said Moses and Elizabeth were lawfully Married - That deponent is Seventy years old, has lived in the Neighborhood of said Moses and Elizabeth a great many years, he is now a resident of the said town of Stillwater - Says that the aforesaid Elizabeth, after the death of said Moses Hunter married one Saber Randle and that the said Elizabeth is now a Widow - and this deponent further says that it was always understood in the neighborhood of which he was a resident that the said Moses was in the War of the Revolution - Samuel Morry
Subscribed and sworn to this 21 st Nov r 1842 before me Abiel Palmer Justice.
Saratoga County ss I hereby Certify that I am well acquainted with Samuel Morry the deponent named in the foregoing affidavit and that he is a respectable and credible person and entitled to be believed - Witness my hand this 21 st day of November 1842 Abiel Palmer Justice of the Peace, of said County.

State of New York Seneca County ss.
I Archibald Smith Clerk of the said County do hereby certify, that Archibald Palmer was on the 21 st day of November 1842 & still is, a Justice of the peace in and for the said County, duly qualified according to law. - And also, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe that his name signed to the foregoing papers is his genuine signature.
Witness my hand and official seal this 23 rd day of November 1842.
Archibald Smith Clerk
State of New York ss.
Mary Lawrence being duly sworn says that she is the daughter of Moses Hunsicker & Elizabeth his wife. That she was born on the 30 th day of January in the year one thousand eight hundred & thirty two, as she believes. That she now deals as far back as the year one thousand eight hundred & thirty eight when she was about six years of age. That her father had a family bible which she can remember in which the time of the birth of this deponent was entered as above stated. That said entry was made in her father's hand writing & was preserved until about ten years since at which time it became entirely destroyed & is not now in existence. That a short time previous to the loss of said old bible said entry with others were copied into a new bible by the husband of this deponent, which bible is now in the possession of this deponent.
This deponent further says that she always understood from her father & mother that they were married in the year one thousand eight hundred & thirty one, & believes it to be true. That her father died in the year eighteen hundred & fourteen & her mother was married afterwards to Jabez Rundle who died in the year 1838. & that her mother the said Elizabeth Rundle now resides in Watford in said County with this deponent &
is still a widow & is the same person mentioned in the foregoing affidavits.

is still a widow & is the same person described in the preceding affidavits of Andrew Hunter, Phebe Hunter & Samuel Morey subscribed & sworn this 23 d day of November 1842 before me } Mary Lawrence J. Cramer 2 d Justice of the Peace of said County
State of New York } Saratoga County ss: } I John Cramer 2 d one of the Justices of the Peace of the town of Waterford in said County being duly do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Mary Lawrence the deponent named in the foregoing affidavit & that she is a respectable & credible person & entitled to be believed. Witness my hand this 23 d day of November A.D. 1842 J. Cramer 2 d Justice of the Peace
State of New York } Saratoga County } ss. I Archibald Smith, Clerk of the said county, do hereby certify that John Cramer 2 d is a Justice of the peace in and for the said County, duly qualified according to law. And also, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe that his name signed to the above just, is his genuine signature. Witness my hand and official seal this 23 d day of November 1842 Archibald Smith Clerk

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
9042
P. O.
Elizabeth Rundle
Service: wid of Moses Hunter
REJECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

8520
Elizabeth Rundt
W. H. Moses Hunter
Act. to E. T. Bullard. Dec. 2 nd 42
" Hon. J. Cramer, Mar. 11. 43
" " C. Ellis, " 5 th 44
" " " Same June 25 th 44
" " Same Jany. 6 th 45.
" " Eliz. T. Bullard Sept 7. 46.
Act July 7. 1838

E. Pumble
Mem. for Pension
E. F. Bullard
Hen. C. Ellis H. Doy
ny
Hen. C. Ellis H. Doy

Died in Nov. 1842, & since I sent papers & affidits in checking application of Elizabeth Rundle widow of Moses Hunter for application as a pension I think the papers are clear & correct, but I can't make them any stronger. If the Pension Court won't allow the it, I wish you would get a special law pass. As every old man in the town of Stillwater knows by reputation that Moses Hunter lay in the prison of Canadee for years, but they can't swear to it as they did not see him.

June 30. 1885.
Isabel's care Miss Bullard,
Free C. Ellis msl
Hon. J. L. Edwards. Com. of Pensions Washington D. C.

N.Y. Watkins 27. May 1845
Dear Sir
I Enclose additional Evidence in case of Elizabeth Pumble widow of Moses Hunter, on her app l for Pension. The other papers were filed about then two years since.
I think this will make clear proof of our Gen l Service.
If you this makes out suff t Service & you need more corroborating the marriage I will send on as soon as you can be kind
Respectfully Yours
Hon. J. L. Edwards
Ellis H. Dullam P.B.

State of New York Warren County ss: Saratoga
Benjamin Knapp of the town of Chester in said County of Warren being duly sworn says that he is eighty years of age & upwards & is a pensioner of the United States under the act of June 1832. That during the summer of 1780 deponent enlisted & served in the Revolutionary war in the place of his brother. That deponent served in the Company Commanded by Captain Adriel Sherwood. That he Moses Hunter formerly of Stillwater Saratoga County, with Robert Simpson John Hetherway & others served in said Company with deponent. That in the fall of 1780 & deponent thinks in October he & said Moses Hunter & the whole of said Company were taken prisoners by the British & Indians & carried to Montreal in Canada. That deponent & said Hunter staid there in prison about ten months after that time. That in the fall of 1782 deponent & the most of said Company & as deponent thinks, said Hunter returned from Canada having been detained as prisoners until after the capture of Lord Cornwallis.
- further deponent saith not Subscribed & sworn this 21 st day of June 1845 before me
Benjamin Knapp
Theodore Bailey Justice
State of New York Warren County ss: Saratoga
I Theodore Bailey one of the Justices of the Peace of said County hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Benjamin Knapp the witness named in the foregoing affidavit & that he is a respectable & credible witness person & entitled to be believed. Witness my hand June 21, 1845.
Theodore Bailey

State of New York Warren County } b I Thomas Archibald Clerk of the County of Warren do hereby certify that Theodore Bailey Before whom the within affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of the same one of the Justices of the peace in and for the said County and that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and only believe his name subscribed to the said Certificate & affidavit to be his proper hand writing and Signature Witness My hand and Seal of Office as Clerk at Coesville this 21st day of June 1845 Thomas Archibald Clerk

Co. Rindler
Hon J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.
1876
Nov 28 1876

Waterford Saratoga R. N.Y.
Nov. 24 th 1842
Sir
I Enclose your papers in support of an application of widow Elizabeth Rundle formerly wife of Moses Hunter a Soldier in the revolutionary war. At Witten you will see an affitt of David Carswell of Sandusky City Ohio, who is a pensioner & Post Master at that Place. you will see by the papers the whole grounds that we have no positive proof of Marriage, as the persons present are all dead. but think under the circumstances, that the facts are st enough. The Hon John Cramer is in Washington or will be in a day or two. I meant to have sent the papers by him but could not get them ready. If you Please & should want any explanations Please call on him & much oblige Yours Truly E. F. Bullard Hon J. L. Edwards

Waterford N.Y. Feb. 18, 1843
Sir
I enclose additional testimony in support of the application of Elizabeth Bandle widow of Moses Hunter for a Pension.
It appears by the affidavit of Daniel Montgomery (with whom I am well acquainted) that there is no doubt of the marriage. It is established as clear as evidence can establish a fact which transpired almost two generations since. It appears by same affidavit that Campbell kept no records of marriages & even if he did his declaration 40 years ago is just as good evidence as his memorandums or records would be. I hope therefore that upon the point of marriage there can be no legal, as there can certainly be no equitable, doubts.
In regard to the other point viz: the service the important facts established by the best evidence, viz: that he did enlist & serve as a soldier for 3 months, for that time has received his pay, which in justice & reason entitles him or his widow to a pension. I believe that the rule has been always followed by your department to allow the time of imprisonment to be computed as so long service. If this be so, then we have presented the best evidence, the case will admit of in regard to his captivity, first by the affidavit of David Barstow (prior to his death) that he was taken prisoner and carried to Canada and confined some time in the same room with him & until he was removed (not discharged) to some other prison, said Barstow is now himself a pensioner as I understand. & I was formerly well acquainted with him & consider him to be a man on whom the utmost confidence can be placed.

It further appears by the affidavit of Phebe Hunter also on file that (the sister in law of said Moses Hunter) that her family & the family of said Moses always resided in said town of Stillwater & were neighbours. that she was of course always intimate with him & fam- ily & knows that he did not return from his captivity untill after peace was declared. Now this is that strong- est circumstantial evidence which I can imagine could be produced in such a case. About 60 years have rolled by since his return to his family & but few mortals who then lived in this country are now a- live to bear testimony in behalf of our patriotic & venerable forefathers. The best evidence of which the case admits is therefore produced to you. I hope you will feel it your duty to grant, to the widow of a patriot who fought, suffered long for his country's cause. That which she is justly entitled to. as but a small recomp- ense bestowed in gratitude upon those who have contributed to the establishment establishment of the glorious institutions which we now enjoy. By so doing you will much oblige the widow & her numerous friends, who are poor, & also do a favour which will be remembered by your
Hon. J. L. Edwards Court of Pensions }
Very Respectfully M c Lanane

Wm Lloyd J. R.
Hon J. L. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions Washington D. C.

Watford 27 Nov. 1844 Saratoga County N. Y.
D. Sui
In regard to the claim of Elisabeth Rundle widow of Moses Hunter deceased for a pension. I wish to enquire
1 st The widow is now dead having died in the spring of 1844. Does her claim survive to her heirs or administrator? or either? or does it cease?
2 nd if it does survive will verbal testimony of the fact of the Captivity of Moses Hunter be allowed?
I have found such testimony but I understand an intimation in your former answer that the claim would not be allowed on such evidence. but that it must depend upon the fact that it had been previously audited at the Comptrollers office in this State. (New York)
The children of the widow do not wish to go to any further expense unless there is a prospect of success & they know that the widow had a just claim. Your answer will much oblige yours Respectfully
J. L. Edwards Esq
E. F. Bullard

State of New York Comptroller's Office
I certify that upon an examination of the books and papers pertaining to the Revolution- ary period remaining in this office, no evidence is found that Moses Hester received pay while a prisoner. Albany May 7 th 1844.
Philip Phelps Deputy Comptroller
Now if the separate  fact  of  his  not  returning from  Canada  until  more  than  6. months had elapsed, we will look after more The former papers were filed about one year ago. I will wait for an answer from the old Department. Hon. J. L. Edwards Comm. of Pensions
Yours, &c E. T. Bullard of Watford N. Y.

Washington D. C. May 11. 1844
In matter of application of Elizabeth Pinedle
Moses Marshall Hunter the husband of the applicant
it appears by enclosed certificate he was allowed to receive pay for time he was a prisoner. we prove by affidavits that he was taken to Canada & remained a prisoner until winter by a man who was a prisoner with him. we also prove that he did not return until 2 or 3 years Now if the Department will receive other evidence of the fact of his not returning from Canada until more than 6 months had elapsed. we will look after more The former papers were filed about one year ago. I will wait for an answer from the old Department.
Hon. J. L. Edwards Comm. of Pensions
Yours, &c T. F. Bullard of Watford N. J.

Widow Amalie Moses Hunter

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
  1780 Oct 15 10494 Moses Hunter Inm. — 8 — 16 —   3 mo. 9 ds 
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, Dec r 27 1842.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 3 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
  First—under Capt. Wm Sherwood in Col. Thomas Thomas Regt.   Second, " " " " "   Third, " " " " "   Fourth, " " " " "   Fifth, " " " " "   Sixth, " " " " "   Seventh, " " " " "   Eighth, " " " " "   Ninth, " " " " "   Tenth, " " " " " 
20. 22.08 29.08 198 169 39
Philip Schuyler Ex Comptroller
509

State of New York Cattaraugus County } ss
Daniel Montgomery being duly sworn says that he is a resident of the town of Stillwater in said County, and has been Continual for fifty eight years, that deponent is forty years old - That he was well acquainted with one Robert Campbell who was a Minister of the Gospel and resided as Minister over the Congregational Church in said town to deponent's knowledge twelve or fifteen years - That in a conversation with said Campbell many years ago the said Campbell mentioned the Circumstances of his Marrying Elizabeth Hunter to Elizabeth Groves some years previous which conversation from the best of deponent's belief must have been more than 40 years ago - that said Campbell related some particulars in relation to the wedding - That the said Elizabeth is now a Widow - and has been the Wife of one Peter Rundle deceased. - That it is well understood in the neighborhood where deponent lives and where said Campbell preached that said Campbell died in the Western part of this State about 20 years ago, that it is well known that there were no Records of Marriages kept in the Books belonging to said Church and that if there had been they deponent says he would have known it for he is and has been familiar with the Records of said Church - This deponent further says that he is Confident that said Moses and Elizabeth the Esther lived together as Man and Wife before the year 1704 because before deponent was twenty one years old it was understood in the neighborhood in which he resided that said Moses and Elizabeth the Esther were Man and Wife -
Subscribed and sworn to this 16 th Jan y 1843 before me
Isaac Palmer Justice of the Peace.
Daniel Montgomery

State of New York Saratoga County
I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Daniel Montgomery the person who subscribed to the within Affidavit and that the said Daniel is of fair Moral Character and a credible Witness -
Askel Palmer Justice Jan'y 16 th 1843.
State of New York Saratoga County Clerks Office
I Horace Goodrich Clerk of the County of Saratoga, do hereby certify that Askel Palmer before whom the within affidavit purports to have been sworn, was at the date of the same, One of the Justices of the Peace in and for said County, and that I am acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavit to be his proper hand writing and signature.
Witness My hand and Seal of Office the 19 th day of January 1843
Horace Goodrich Clerk

David Cumme P.M.
FREE
Andrew Hunt Esq Stillwater Saratoga Co New York

I David Casswell of Sandusky City, Erie County State of Ohio do certify that I was seventy eight Years of age in March last - That during the American Revolution in the Year 1780 I was a Soldier in a Company of men raised by requisition of the Continental Congress to reinforce the Army of the United States -
Our company was commanded by Capt Adair Sherwood and attached to Col. Shelby's Regiment.
In July of the same Year we were stationed at Fort Ann as a scouting party to guard the Northern frontier - Moses Hunter from Pitsylvania in the State of New York was one of my fellow enlisted Soldiers in Capt Sherwood's Company.
In October of the same Year 1780 the enemy sent a strong force to destroy the frontier Posts. Fort Ann & Fort George were taken and other out posts.
Capt Sherwood with his whole company were made prisoners & carried with other prisoners taken in the route of the enemy to Canada - We were taken to Montreal confined in different prisons at and near that place. Moses Hunter & myself were put together in the same prison. Some time in the Winter following the said Moses Hunter was removed from the prison where I was confined & I never saw him afterward - How long he remained a prisoner I am unable to say. I remained in close confinement one Year & eight months (David Casswell)
Sworn to and Subscribed before me this 24 th day of Oct. 1842. John N. Hoane J.P.

The State of Ohio. Erie County ss—
I Rice Haysler Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas within and for said County of Erie do hereby certify that John P. Sloane Esq. before whom the within purports to have been sworn to, is at this time a Justice of the Peace within and for said County duly commissioned and qualified, and that full faith and credit is due to his official acts. I also certify that the signature of the said John P. Sloane I believe to be genuine. In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Sandusky this 24 th day of October A.D. 1842.
Rice Haysler Clerk