Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 5983, for James Kip, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Kip James
R 5983
CONTENTS

STATE OF NEW-YORK, County of Dutchess, } ss.
I, HENRY I. TRAPER, Clerk of
the County of Dutchess, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That Robert Livingston, Esq., has been admitted an Attorney at Law in the said Court, and is now a member thereof, and is duly qualified according to the rules and regulations of the said Court, and is entitled to practice therein. His name is subscribed to the foregoing instrument at the time and place of signing the same, and he is a true and lawful Attorney in and for the County aforesaid, dwelling in the said County, and authorized to take the same.
AND FURTHER, That I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Robert Livingston, and verily believe that the signature to the said instrument is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said Court, the _____ day of September, A. D. 1832.
Henry I. Traper

12.983
Jas. Rip
N.Y.

State of New York, Dutchess County ss
On this seventh day of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared before me Robert L. Livingston one of the judges of the Court of Common Pleas of Dutchess County. James Rip a resident of the town of Rhinebeck in the County of Dutchess and State aforesaid who says that he was eighty years of age the last day of August last, past being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832, in earning Revolutionary Pensions. That this deponent was born in the year of our Lord 1752 at Rhinebeck in the County of Dutchess as appears by a record of deponents age at the Dutch Reformed Church at Rhinebeck aforesaid. Deponent when called into service was living in the town of Rhinebeck aforesaid, that deponent immediately after the War commenced to reside & still does reside at Rhinebeck aforesaid. That this deponent entered the service and served as a Volunteer in the Militia in the early part of the year 1776 & served as a private through the whole of the war of the Revolution, that he belonged to a company commanded by Captain David Van Klief, Lieutenant Francis Wernh, Ensign Philip Fellow, first Sergeant Jacob Cole second Sergeant Christopher Waldo, which company belonged to the Regiment commanded by Colonel Abraham which Regiment belonged to the Brigade commanded by Genl. Tenbroek. That at the commencement of the War deponent was engaged for some time in drilling & exercising preparing for service, that when out on some scouting expedition it was their custom to drill & exercise every evening that deponent was ordered to be and did always hold himself in readiness to go out on scouting expeditions at a moments warning, that for the few first years of the war he was almost continually engaged in this business of scouting that he was employed day & night in woods in different parts of Dutchess Columbia & Ulster Counties in these exploring scouting expeditions that when a little leisure was afforded he was, under drill & preparation as aforesaid, that they were successful in apprehending a number of Tories & Indians. Deponent was drafted and went to Poughkeepsie in the County aforesaid as a guard for the Prisoners confined in the Court House of

that place. that Capt. Wilson who belonged to the said Regiment had the Command. Deponent cannot recollect the precise time of this service thinks however it was the Autumn of 1777 was employed in this service for one month night & day. Genl Clinton resided at Poughkeepsie at this time. Deponent was personally acquainted with Genl Clinton received many kind attentions from him.
In the year 1781 or 1782 in the Autumn deponent was drafted to go to the City of New York to retake the City and went as far as Fishkill where they were engaged for a week in drilling & preparing for the service under Capt. Wilson. While thus employed the war ended and deponent with his Companions were discharged.
Deponent says that he was employed in the above services  services from the beginning to the end of the war, that he scarcely  scarcely had any leisure as  but was continually employed as a soldier. Deponent further says that he is now helpless that he has a wife his dependent upon a her daily labor & the charity of his friends for a subsistence that the Court House is a great distance from his residence that he is unable to appear before said Court at its next sitting therefore he is compelled to make his declaration before a single Judge of said Court.
That deponent never had a written discharge from the service that he has no documentary evidence of his revolutionary services, that he knows of no person now living who was with him in service for who can testify from their personal knowledge of such service and that he hereby relinquishes all claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the closing of any State.
Deponent further says that Jacob Skene and William Kenne who reside near deponent can testify to his character for truth and veracity.
Witness Present Sworn before me his E. B. Coles Nov 7 th September 1832 James K. Vail Robt. Livingston Clerk
One of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of Dutchess County

I Jacob Shaper June residing in the town of Rhinebeck and County of Dutchess hereby certify that I am well acquainted with James Kip of the town and county aforesaid that I believe him to be 80 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that I concur in that opinion
Sworn and subscribed this 6 th day of September 1832
Jacob Shaper June
Before me
Jacob Beer meier Justice of the Peace

State of New York Dutchess County ss
I James B Hardenburgh a clergyman residing in the town of Rhinebeck and county of Dutchess hereby certify that I am well acquainted with James Rip of the town of Rhinebeck and county aforesaid that I believe him to be 80 years of age that I have been informed and believe him to have been a soldier of the Revolution
James B Hardenburgh
Sworn & Subscribed this 7 th day of September 1832 before me
Jacob H. Hermance Justice of the Peace
State of New York Dutchess County ss
I David J. Cole residing in the town of Rhinebeck County aforesaid do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with James Rip of the town of Rhinebeck and county aforesaid that I believe him to be 80 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that I concur in that opinion -
David J. Cole his mark
Sworn and Subscribed this day of September 1832
before me John Tappan Smith (the bearer)
David J. Cole

And the said Robert Livingston a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Dutchess State of New York doth here by certify and declare his opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And I further certify that it appears to me that James B. Hardebrough who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the town of Rhinebeck and that Jacob Shaeffer and David Cole who have also certified as above are credible persons and entitled to credit. And I further certify that it appears to me that the above applicant is infirm and unable to attend Court
Robt. S. Livingston one of the Judges of Dutchess County
12.983
Jas. B. Hardebrough
N.Y.

12.983
James Kirt Dutcher 6: W. York
5.
P. 381.
May 8 33
Edw. E. Coles Rinebeck, N.Y.

BRIEF in the case of James Kip  Rhinebeck of Dutchess County in the State of New York  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a judge  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? yes  3. How old is he? 80 years  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days. As a Gen.     In 1776 &c whole war of Revolution metals a service — private Gen. Cap David Van Ness Col. Graham Genl Seabrook.  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Rhinebeck Dutchess Co NYork  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? traditional  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct 
I certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Richard Clutter Examining Clerk.

New York
Revoy - Jas Kipps
Suspended
See let to E. G. Cowles
Eng May 8. 1834.
Let E. G. Cowles, Apr 14/33
b. 117 Bennett Aug 21/33
Rev. Mr. Isaac Teller mch 9/33
" " Apper Teller Jr 5/36
2 mths " " Apper Teller Jr 5/36
5983
Oct 7 June '32

In working on James Kip - KIP . R. 5982. The old letters were drawn in connection with this claim also. Aug. 9-1939.
J. L. L.

Wm L. P. Waldo

Mattawan, New York Aug 28. 1856 Hon. L. P. Waldo.
Dear Sir
I enclose you a copy of the acts of the Hon. James M. Cook, late Comptroller of the State, and also the affidavit of James L. Dipp of Rhinebeck Dutchep. Co. in regard to a Pension claimed by the latter.
During the last session of Congress, when I was a member, I called upon you in regard to the claim your agency more satisfactory.

information - I intend to send Washington City, during the next week, and will you do me the favor, to let me, the application and wants, me, if you require more testimony to secure the. Person - The House are very constitutional, and they frequently expect more than they realize - Will you send me a Printed Form, for. Beverly Lander L. Parsons -
I anticipate the pleasure of representing the District in the next Congress, and from present prospects

my chance is good With the assurance of my highest regard Yours Truly James M. Tilton
Ex. Member of Congress 12th District N. York.
P.S. John Van Lins one of the Soldiers of the last War. has received 40 Acres of Land and. he is an old man. 84 years. as the  the his last Warrant of 120 Acres. Will you oblige me. by forwarding it as early as possible - some of his neighbors have received their Warrants.

REVOLUTIONARY SERVICE.
O. W. & N. Div.
MEMORANDA.
Please supply as much as possible of the data called for below.
1 Full name of soldier:
do not know.
2 Place of residence before service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.)
Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York
3 Place of residence after service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.)
Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York.
Date of death (as near as possible):
About 1838 to 1843
Christian name of widow:
do not know
Did either he or his widow receive a pension?
Yes, one of them did and possibly both.
Remarks:
This information is not wanted for the purpose of putting in a claim for pension, but for the purpose of completing the family history and to put in a Regimental History of 7th Cavalry.
Your name and address:

DIVISION.
Department of the Interior,
F. S. W
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
Washington, D. C., August 8, _____, 18 94
Respectfully returned to
Lt. George W. Cole,
Fort Riley, Kansas.
The data given is not sufficient to identify the pension claim.
Please fill out the enclosed slip as fully as possible giving the full name of the soldier.
Return all papers with reply.
Commissioner.

James Kip Esq.
M c L. P. Haskell Clerk of Supreme Washington District Court
John P. Allen

James Kip Esq. Mr. J. P. Harkness 100 Nassau Street Washington City District Columbia

1861-13-192 Benj M. Kip - Canton N.Y.
REJECTED
5783
P. O. _____
James Kip
Service: _____
James Kip
Enlisted: _____, 18 .
Discharged: _____, 18 .
Application filed: _____, 18 .
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18 .

Canton, New York. April 2 d 1900
Pension Bureau. Washington D.C.
Dear Sir -
Can I obtain information or copies of a application for a pension of Sept 20 th 1832 also of Mch 1 st 1854 applicant being James Kip in the first instance and same party or John L Kip in the second.
Yours very truly.
Benjamin M. Kip

Camp of Jacobus Kip.
Oct 27/52.
H C
Hon. J. E. Heath Esq. Pension referee of Pensions Washington City D. C.

New York City October 25 th 1852
Hon J B Heath
Dear Sir /
In the year 1832 or 1833, I resided & practiced law in Rensselaer Dutchess County I prepared certain Pension Papers, in behalf of Jacobus Hess a Revolutionary Soldier - I sent them on to your Department - I soon afterwards removed to the City, and have never learned what disposition has been made of his case - until a few days since a Mr Barmell addressed a letter to the Hess family concerning it & in forms them that a pension had been granted & that back pay was due -
Will you do me the favor to inform me particularly on this subject - - When the pension was gra- nted (if so) - what measures can be taken to receive what may be due -
I acted as the attorney on the matter - I would like to have a certificate - or a copy certificate granted in this matter -
Will you do me the favor to let me hear from you soon on the subject - Sincerely to me W-16 Wall St New York
Yours very Respectfully, Edward E. Coombs No 16 Wall St N.Y.

Washington City
June 9 th 1858.
Hon S. P. Maldo.
Com r of Pensions.
Sir
I have the honor to enclose herewith a power of attorney executed by the heirs of Jacobus Ripp of the State of New York whose claim under act of July 7 th 1832. has been suspended.
I hope to be enabled to file additional evidence in the case before it comes up for examination.
Very Respectfully, Your Obedt. Servt. C. M. Bennett.

May 8. 1834
E. C. Bowles Esq.
OC
Recd. W. D. ...

War Dept
Pension Off.
May 8 th 34
Sir
The claim of James Kip has been again examined. His His papers were returned to you on 8 th May last with a brief requiring a specification of each term of actual service in the field or garrison - This he has declined to do. His case is therefore suspended papers this place on file to await his compliance - His new declaration should omit drilling & holding himself in readiness and detail only that service which was actually in his embodied company called out by competent authority.
E. C. Cowles Rhinebeck N.Y.

L. R. 47. 63/94
Fort Riley Kansas. July 13, 1894.
10. Indorsement. Fort Riley Kas. July 14, 1894. Respectfully forwarded. G. C. Gresham Capt. of Cav.
G. W. Cole, 2 d Lieut. 7th. Cavalry.
Requests information as to military record of one - Kipps.
Recd. 9/4 July 13, 1894

Fort Riley, Kansas July 10, 1894
To the Commissioner of Pensions, Washington D.C., ( thro' military channels),
Sir:—
I have the honor to request to be furnished with certain information. The circumstances are as follows. My father remembers when a boy signing away his interest as one of the heirs to a pension collected for the services of his grand- father, named — Kipp , in either the Revolutionary War or the War of 1812. — Kipp's residence was in Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York. Can you please inform me from the records which war he served in, and his rank.
Very respectfully,
Your obedient servant, George W. Cole 2nd Lt 7 th Cavalry

Fort Riley, Kansas, October 11 th 1894
To the Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C., Sir:—
I have the honor to return here with the correspondence in the case of one — Kipp, with the slip completed and filled out as much as it possibly can be.
My father, Col. Nelson Cole, of St. Louis, Mo., was too young when it all occurred to remember any more than is contained in the slip sent you.
Hoping this information will be sufficient, I have the honor to remain,
Very respectfully,
Your obedient servant
G. W. Cole
and Lt. Col. Cavalry.

Treasurer's Office Feb 5, 1856.
Sir,
I have examined and filed the copy of a certificate from the Comptroller of New York showing certain payments to a James Kipp of the New York City University since 1832, and you are informed that that soldier, was not the party of this name who, in Sept. 1832, offered from Rhinebeck, Dutchess Co New York, for the benefit of the city of New York, 1832. That soldier was attached to the and State troops militia of New York, and served under Capt. David Van Ness and in the Regiment of Genl. Morris's Garrison, for sometime in 1832. The Roll of Capt. Van Ness's company in this office do not contain the name of James Kipp. It is not possible that some evidence of his

Since under the officers designated might be found in the office of the Comptroller at Albany.
If my recollection serves as established, the outlook of the Pastor of St. Peter's Church, a copy of which has also been submitted to the office, might be supposed to establish the claim of Miss's motion under the act of July 7, 1838, if she was living at that date.
I have the
Ms. A. 9. 2. 11. 90
Hon. Isaac Teller, Matthiawan, • Dutchess Co. New York.

Alma-bird N.Y. April 9 April 12 New York Returned. No. 12.89.3
Free
J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington City

Whitbeck N.Y. April 9
Free
April 12 New York Returned. No. 12.893
J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions, Washington City

Dear Sir,
In pursuance of your request I enclose you the Pension Papers of James Kepp - I apprehend there was no mistake in transmitting them to me as I volunteered to assist the old gentleman in obtaining a Pension. If you could allow this helpless old Soldier something however little it may be it would of course be gratefully received by him.
Now I really wish you would reconsider the cases of Lieutenant Peter Schultz and William Hoff and decide them in their favour - they are feeble old men, have in a great measure lost their memory and cannot detail every iota of service and if you will re-examine them you cannot have a reasonable doubt of their Revolutionary Services - If they could but have some acquaintance to represent them at Washington or if you would believe me in my statements concerning them you would not I think hesitate a moment. for more patriotic - high minded honorable men do not exist - and they are really suffering the pains of poverty & if relief is not soon afforded will be obliged to be maintained at our County Poor House which is little better than a prison. - This will be a sad commentary upon the gratitude of our Republic. - It seems to me that Congress did not intend so rigid a construction of this act - I have not the least interest interest personally in this matter. I am not in the least related to either of them and my services are wholly gratuitous in their behalf - but I know these gentlemen so well that I cannot but take an interest for them - and I really wish that I was well enough acquainted with you or had sufficient influence with you that you might place some reliance upon my statements concerning these old gentlemen - I do not wish to dictate or influence you improperly but respectfully wish you to relax in these cases a very rigid construction of the Act - Yours sincerely in haste
Rhinebeck Dutchy N.Y. April 9 th 1834
Edward E. Cowles

Jacobus Klipf Sund. cry
Oct 1822
This is James Rip.
No 000 dms. or med
No rejected out.
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H. H. Markland

State of New York County of Dutchess
Be it Known, that on this Twenty seventh day of December A. D. 1852 before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared David S. Kipp
resident of the town of Rhinebeck in said County, and made oath according to law that he is legal heir of  Sarah Kipp, the identical war who was a Soldier in the war of the Revolution, and who has heretofore made application for the benefit of the Pension Act of 1842
That he is directly interested as a claimant in said Pension, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my Agent may use in prosecuting said claim.
Countermanding and revoking all Powers of Attorney and authority heretofore given, I hereby constitute and appoint C. W. BENNETT , of Washington City, my true and lawful Attorney to prosecute the claim of Sarah Kipp for any amount of Revolutionary Pension, or increase of Pension that may be due; and I hereby authorize my said Attorney to examine all papers or documents in relation to said claim, on file in the Department at Washington City or elsewhere, to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive for my exclusive benefit, the certificate which may be issued for said claim, which certificate I wish made payable at the Washington City, D. C. Agency; to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed, and to do all things that I might or could do were I personally present. hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said Attorney and Agent shall lawfully do in the premises.
David S. Kipp
Sworn to, Subscribed, and Acknowledged before me the day and year above written, and I hereby certify that I believe the said David S. Kipp to be directly interested in said claim as set forth, and to be the identical party therein alleged.
Lewis Woodman
Justice of the Peace
State of New York County of Dutchess
It is Hereby Certified, that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me, Clerk of the Court of Deeds & Records , that David S. Kipp the party who has sworn to, and acknowledged the foregoing Declaration and Power of Attorney, is the child of the reputed soldier aforesaid. I further certify, that Lewis Woodman Esq. before whom the preceding affidavit and Power of Attorney were made and acknowledged, was, at the time of so doing, a Justice of the Peace, in and for said County, and that the signature purporting to be his, I believe to be genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of Office, this Twenty Seventh day of December 1852.
J. S. Adiam of Dutchess County
1. Claimant's name or names in full.—2. Post Office address. 3. "That he is the identical man," or, "that she is the widow of the identical man," or, "that he or she is the legal heir of the identical man," &c., &c. 4. Leave this line blank.—5. "He is," "she is," or "they are."—6. Revolutionary soldier's full name.—7. Claimant's signature.—8. Claimant's name.—9. Magistrate's signature. 10. "Identical," "widow of," or, "child of."—11. Magistrate's name.—12. Clerk's signature.
N. B.—Should two or more heirs join in the foregoing, the plural should be substituted for the singular number.