Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 2706, for Jonathan Kidwell, North Carolina

SERVICE
NUMBER
N. 6.
Heidwell, Jonathan
S. 2706
CONTENTS
carded

22092 Jonathan Ridwell of Henry Co in the State of Kentucky who was a private in the co. commanded by Captain Keagden of the 2d reg t commanded by Col Sacker in the War of 1812 time for 13 months
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 50 Dollars & 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 1 day of October 1833 and thereon No McPhearson
Arrears to the 4th of Sept r 125.00 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 March 25.00 $150.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Dan Boyd Clerk, Book 8 Vol. 7 Page 16
Note of check not in a B

Jonathan Kidwell
Rev: claim

State of Kentucky } Henry County } set
On this 6 th day of September 1833 personally appeared before William McBrackin one of the Commonwealth's Justices of the peace in and for Henry County and one of the Justices of the Henry County Court Jonathan Kidwell a resident of the said County aged 88 years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832
That he entered the service of the United States under the following name officers and served as herein stated that is to say: being a resident of Rowan County in the State of North Carolina he entered the service of the United States on the - day of Sept r 1779 as well as he now remembers as a substitute for one David Bailey as well as he remembers upon a draft who had been drafted upon a twelve months tour. that he thus entered the service as a private Militia soldier and substitute for the said Bailey upon said twelve months tour in the company of Capt. Douglas Hays - that he was attached to Col. Lock's Regiment and rendezvoused with his company at Salisbury in the said County of Rowan - that during the tour he was kept stationed a part of his time in Garrison at Salisbury and other parts of it he was stationed at or near the mouth of the Cape Fear River and along the coast aiding in its defense and protection - He states that he was kept actively engaged during the whole of the said tour of twelve months and at the termination thereof having fully and faithfully served out the same he was discharged and returned home
He further states and declares that in the month of June in the year 1781 he again entered the service of the United States as a drafted Militia man and private soldier upon a three months tour in the company of Captain Davis - that he was again placed in a regiment under the command of Col. Francis Lock - that he again rendezvoused with his company at Salisbury in the said County of Rowan where he still resides - that he was afterwards transferred to the command and service of Genl. Gamble D. M. L. and kept at the said town of Salisbury as an artificer and was engaged during the whole period of his three months tour as such at that place assisting in making cartouches for the use of the Army and after having fully and faithfully served out his tour he was discharged in writing on the 22 nd Sept r 1781 by writing signed by H. Bolivar for Genl. Gamble D. M. L. which discharge he now has and is herewith shown -
He states that from his advanced age and consequent loss of memory that he cannot recollect many of the incidents of his service

but he is confident from his present best recollection he did not serve up than 15 months as a private Militia soldier in the manner above stated
He states that he has no documentary evidence except the discharge from his three months tour as above stated and that he knows of no person except his wife Rebecca Redwell whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service - He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or bannings except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency for and worn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Jonathan his X Redwell mark
Interrogatories put to the above named applicant by the said William McBreckin Justice of the Peace and member of the Henry County Court as aforesaid
1 st Where and in what year were you born? Answer. I was born in Charles County in the state of Maryland in the year 1750.
2 nd Have you any record of your age and if so where is it? Answer. I have in my Bible at my own house
3 rd Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the revolutionary war; and where do you now live? Answer I lived in Rowan County North Carolina when I entered the service upon each of my tours where I continued to reside until 1784 when I moved to Kentucky in that part of it now known as Madison County, where I continued to live until 1828 when I moved to Henry County Ky. where I still reside.
4 th How were you called into service; were you drafted; did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute for whom?
Answer Upon my first tour I was a substitute for David Bailey upon my second tour I was drafted
5 th State the names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops where you served; such Continental and Militia regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your service
Answer. My memory has so failed me that I cannot recollect at this time the names of many of the officers. I recollect however Genl. Small- wood, Col. Martin and Col. Armstrong who I think were regular officers, tho' I am not certain as to Genl. Smallwood. I recollect Col. Brown and Col. Locke of the Militia - upon my first tour I was left partly at Salisbury in garrison and the balance of the time was at the mouth of Cape Henry

and along the Coast aiding in its protection and defence - Upon my second tour I was kept stationed at Salisbury and engaged in making Cartridge Boxes during the whole period thereof for the use of the Army -
6 th Did you ever receive a discharge from the service; and if so by whom was it given and what has become of it?
Answer. I received discharges from the service signed by my officers one of which I have lost and the other is herewith exhibited signed by H m Colvard for Edw. Gamble D. Q.M. C.
7 th State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighbourhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution -
Answer. I will name Thomas Burrup Absalom McClick
I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Jonathan his  Redwell mark
We Thomas Burrup and Absalom McClick - residing in Henry county Kentucky hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Jonathan Redwell who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be 83 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion. We further certify that the said Jonathan Redwell is so infirm in body that he cannot attend the proper court to make his declaration and that he is a clergyman, himself of the Methodist Episcopal
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Thomas his Burrup mark
Absalom McClick
And I the said William McBracken Justice of the peace for Henry county and one of the Justices of the Henry county Court do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories proposed by the War Department that the above

named applicant Jonathan Edwards was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states and that he is a citizen of the state of Kentucky  and that I further certify that there is no clergyman living in the vicinity of the said Applicant and that Thomas Burrup and Absalom McCloud - who have subscribed and sworn to the preceding certificate are residents of Henry County Ky. and are credit- able and respectable persons and that their statement is entitled to credit - And I also further certify that the said Jonathan Edwards cannot from bodily infirmity attend the proper Court to make his declaration Given under my hand this 6 th day of September 1833
William McBracken
State of Kentucky Henry County
I Edmund P. Thomas Clerk of the Court of Henry County in the State of Kentucky hereby certify that William McBracken whose name appears to the preceding certificate was at the date thereof and still is a Justice of the peace in and for Henry County and one of the Justices of the Court of which I am Clerk and that the fore- going signature purporting to be his is his genuine signature
In testimony whereof I have hereto set my name and affixed my seal of office this 9 th day of September
1833
Edm. P. Thomas
Clerk of the Henry County Court

Salisbury Septem. 22 d 1781.
John Kidwell a true worth draught from Roman country and transferred home by John ... Bishop, is hereby discharged ... Giles Kelly
John ... John ... John ...

The deposition of Rebecca Hildreth taken at the house of Jonathan Hildreth in Henry County Ky on the 6 th day of September 1833 to be used on the half of Jonathan Hildreth who is about making his application to the War Department of the United States to be placed on the pension roll of the United States as a revolutionary soldier. This deponent being duly sworn states on her oath. That she is the wife of the said Jonathan Hildreth and that she and her husband reside in Henry County Kentucky - that she is now 86 years of age and that the age of her said husband is 83 according to her information - that they married in the state of Maryland in Charles County in the year 1770 - that in the year 1777 she and her said husband and family moved to Rowan County North Carolina and there remained till 1784 - that her said husband in the fall of the year 1779 went into the army and served out a twelve months tour as she understood - that he was gone from home upon that business as a substitute for one David Baity and she well remembers that he was absent during that period - that she also remembers that he went out again in the year 1781 upon a draft and was gone three months or more and she understood that he was in the service of the United States during that time as a militia soldier
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid Rebecca her  X Hildreth Mark
State of Kentucky Henry County I William McBracken a Justice of the peace in and for Henry County Ky. hereby certify that the preceding deposition of Rebecca Hildreth was this day taken subscribed and sworn to before me - and I further certify that the said deponent is a credible person and that her statements are entitled to credit. Given under my hand this 6 th Sept r 1833 William McBracken
State of Kentucky Henry County I Edward Robertson Clerk of the Henry County Court Ky hereby certify that William McBracken who now appears to the

proceedings entered here at the time of the death of a notice of the plea for damages against one of the defendants of the court of which I am clerk and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is his genuine signature
In testimony whereof I have hereat my hand and affixed my seal of office this 10th day of April 1883
Edw. Thomas Clerk of the King's County Court

Jonathan Kidwell Henry Co. Ken
from 1779 points 15 months. $ 50.
Wm R. M. Johnson Great Xings R.

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Jonathan Hildreth
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1779 12 P. Capt Hayslon 83 Traditionary documents & one witness.   1781 8 P. Col. Locke. Capt Davis N Carolina  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c, Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops. 2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers. 3. Persons employed in the Naval Service. 4. Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of } On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
 [Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and state in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. (This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.)] 
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of _____ &c.
 If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out. 
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this                      day of                      &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (1) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
 6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it?  { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
 7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must fix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [j] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

June 5, 1939
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Mrs. E. Shipp Smith 6535 West Washington Street Indianapolis, Indiana
JONATHAN KIDWELL S. 2706 BA-J/MLB
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Jonathan Kidwell who served in the North Carolina troops and received a pension while living in Henry County, Kentucky.
The record of that soldier follows as found in pension claim, S. 2706, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.
Jonathan Kidwell was born in 1750, in Charles County, Maryland, and in 1777 moved with his family to Rowan County, North Carolina. The names of his parents were not stated.
While residing in Rowan County, North Carolina, Jonathan Kidwell enlisted in September, 1779, and served twelve months as a private in Captain Douglass Hayden's company, Colonel Francis Locke's North Carolina regiment. He enlisted again in June, 1781, and served as private in Captain Davis' company, Colonel Francis Locke's North Carolina regiment, was transferred and served under Deputy Quartermaster General Edmund Gamble as an artificer and was discharged September 22, 1781.
The soldier continued to reside in Rowan County, North Carolina, until 1784, when he moved to the State of Kentucky, that part which was later Madison County, and lived there until 1835 then moved to Henry County, Kentucky.
Jonathan Kidwell was allowed pension on his application executed September 6, 1835, while residing in Henry County, Kentucky. It was stated that he was a clergyman of the Methodist Church.

Jonathan Kidwell married in 1770 in Charles County, Maryland, Rebecca _____. The date and place of her birth, maiden name, or names of her parents are not shown. In 1888, she was aged eighty-six years.
No reference was made in the claim to children of Jonathan Kidwell and his wife, Rebecca.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of the person paid and possibly the date of death of Jonathan Kidwell, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data: Jonathan Kidwell, certificate #22072, issued October 1, 1888, rate, $80 per annum, commenced March 4, 1881, Act of June 7, 1858, Kentucky Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Rev Mar
22072 Certificate 2706
INVALID.
File No. 2706
Jonathan Kidwell Dr. S. B. Linn
Act: June 7, 1832
Index: Vol. 1 , Page 206
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1919 May 8. History to Mrs. - K. S. Stockley letter in claim of John Stephens S. 37. 468. 4.
1932 Aug. 1. Hist. to Pierre E. Haynes. E. 64 -
1934 Mar 8 - Hist. to E. H. Kidwell. Letter in Case John Kidwell E. 64
Rv 13638 - 1937. Mch. 3 - Pierre E. Haynes ass. cost of photostatic copies - See his letter in John Kidwell
S. 13638 - M. T. P. 1937 June 5 - Hist. to Mrs. E. Shipp Smith - - W. L. B.

Dear Mr Hiller. Vet Bureau Last winter I wrote you for a copy of a Rev War pension of my great grandfather Jonathan Hidwell of N. Ber troops - who lived later in Henry Co Ky and died in pension 1831 - age about 81 at the time - you replied your office was very busy at that time so I wonder if you could help me now? my children want the information for school work and I will be very much obliged for any help and kindness

Yours sincerely -
Mrs E. Shipp Smith Lilly Bucknell Smith 65-35 West Washington St Indianapolis Ind.
Henry Co was once a part of Shelby Co Ky and he may have listed in Shelby or Henry and his name was Jonathan - some times John - I added this to help get the right one - but we know he was born about 1750.

Resolutions
PIERRE E. HAYNES MONTAUK, L. I. NEW YORK
June 28, 1932.
U. S. Pension Bureau, Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen: Will you kindly inform me if you have any correspondence or other records relating to JONATHAN KIDWELL who served as a Private, N.C. Line, during the Revolutionary war. He was born in 1749 and died 1836-7 in Henry County, Ky. I believe it is referred to in U. S. Ex. Doc. 444-188. He is probably the same as JOHN KIDWELL who served in N.C. but if you have any separate documents of John Kidwell will you kindly let me know what they consist of and whether or not this John K. lived in Kentucky.
Yours very truly,
Pierre E. Haynes.

March 3, 1937
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Mr. Pierre E. Haynes 3354 Guilford Avenue Indianapolis, Indiana
John Kidwell, S. 13638 Jonathan Kidwell, S. 2706 BA-J/MGHF:MLB
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request photostatic copies of papers on file in Revolutionary War claims for pension of John Kidwell, S. 13638, and Jonathan Kidwell, S. 2706.
Photostatic copies of the claims designated will be furnished at the rate of twenty-five cents a page. In the first named claim there are five pages to be copied, and in the latter, eight pages, making total cost $3.25.
Remittance should be made by money order drawn to the order of The Treasurer of the United States and mailed to the Veterans Administration, Washington, D. C.
The records of these two soldiers were furnished you in 1932. In the effort to protect these old documents, abstracts are made quite full and it is always gratifying when such official reports suffice and the papers do not have to be handled in the preparation of photostatic copies.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

March 8, 1934
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BA-J/EEL John Kidwell- S.13638 Jonathan Kidwell- S.2706
C.H.Kidwell 370 Ocean Terrace Staten Island, New York
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of John and Jonathan Kidwell, both of Kentucky.
A very careful examination of the papers in the pension claims based upon service in the Revolutionary War of John and Jonathan Kidwell has been made and the data found are given herein. These reports are accepted by various historical and other societies as authentic.
John Kidwell S.13638
John Kidwell was born August 23, 1753. The place of his birth and the names of his parents are not shown in the papers in the pension claim.
While residing in Rowan County, North Carolina, he enlisted, date not given, served as a private in Captain William Temple Galt's Company, Colonel Thomas Polk's North Carolina Regiment; was on guard duty in Charleston at the time of the battle on Sullivan's Island and was stationed at Macay's Point, near Sullivan's Island, for three months; he enlisted about January 4, 1781, served as a private in Captain Galt's Company, under Major Pogue in the North Carolina Troops, marched to the Catawba River and was in the battle where General Dubious was killed, length of this service, three months; he again enlisted, served three months and was stationed at Salisbury as a guard and also drove a wagon. This service was rendered under Major Menfierence(?) a French officer.

John Kidwell was allowed pension on his application executed August 13, 1832, while residing in Madison County, Kentucky.
There are no data as to soldier's family.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Kidwell(S.13638), you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following data:
John Kidwell, Certificate No.7664, issued May 11, 1833, rate $30 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Kentucky Agency.
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Jonathan Kidwell S.2706
Jonathan Kidwell was born in 1750, in Charles County, Maryland, and in 1777, moved with his family to Rowan County, North Carolina.
While residing in Rowan County, North Carolina, he enlisted in September, 1779, and served twelve months as a private in Captain Douglass'Hayden's Company, Colonel Francis Locke's North Carolina Regiment; he again enlisted in June, 1781, served as a private in Captain Davis' Company, Colonel Francis Locke's North Carolina Regiment, was transferred and served under Deputy Quartermaster General, Edward Gamble, as an artificer and was discharged September 22, 1781.
He continued to reside in Rowan County, North Carolina, until 1784, when he moved to the state of Kentucky, that part which was later Madison County, and lived there until 1838, then moved to Henry County, Kentucky.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 6, 1833, while residing in Henry County, Kentucky. It was stated that he was a clergyman of the Methodist Church.
The soldier married in 1770, in Charles County, Maryland. Rebecca.

whose maiden name was not given. In 1833, she was aged eighty-six years.
There is no reference to children.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, Jonathan Kidwell(S.2706), you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following data:
Jonathan Kidwell, Certificate No.22072, issued October 1, 1833, rate $50 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Kentucky Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator.

August 1, 1932
BA-J/EEL
Mr. Pierre E. Haynes Montauk, L.I. New York
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to Jonathan and John Kidwell, soldiers of the Revolutionary War who served in the North Carolina Line.
You are furnished herein the histories of Jonathan Kidwell, S.2706 and John Kidwell, S.13638, the only soldiers with those names that are found on the Revolutionary War records of this office.
Jonathan Kidwell S.2706
The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S. 2706, based upon the military service of Jonathan Kidwell in that war.
Jonathan Kidwell was born in 1750, in Charles County, Maryland, and in 1777, moved with his family to Rowan County, North Carolina.
While residing in Rowan County, North Carolina, he enlisted in September, 1779, and served twelve months as a private in Captain Douglass Hayden's Company, Colonel Francis Locke's North Carolina Regiment; he again enlisted in June, 1781, served as a private in Captain Davis' Company, Colonel Francis Locke's North Carolina Regiment; was transferred and served under Deputy Quartermaster General, Edmund Gamble, as an artificer and was discharged September 22, 1781.
He continued to reside in Rowan County, North Carolina, until 1784, when he moved to the state of Kentucky, that part which was later Madison County, and lived there until 1838, when he moved to Henry County, Kentucky.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 6, 1833, while residing in Henry County, Kentucky. It was stated that he was a clergyman of the Methodist Church.
The soldier married in 1770, in Charles County, Maryland, Rebecca, whose maiden name was not given. In 1833, she was aged eighty-six years.
There is no reference to children.
Date of death not on AB

In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Jonathan Kidwell , a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his ( or his widow's ) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau.
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   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Sept. 1779 12 mos. Private Samuel Hayden Locke N.C.   June 1781 transferred Private Davis Francis Locke   and discharged Sept. 22, 1781 Quartermaster ✓ Edw. Gamble, Deputy Quartermaster General.      
Battles engaged in, none stated.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Rowan Co. N.C. from 1777 until 1784 thence to Ky.
Date of application for pension, Sept 6, 1833. His claim was allowed.
Residence at date of application, Henry Co., Kentucky. June 1833.
Age at date of application, born in 1750 in Charles Co., Maryland.
Remarks: soldier married in Charles Co. Md., in 1770 Rebecca _____ who was 86 yrs. of age in 1833. In 1774 removed to Rowan Co. N.C.; in 1784 to what was afterwards called Madison Co. Ky., & in 1828 to Henry Co. Ky.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.