Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 14,295, for Jonathan Kidney, New York

SERVICE
New York.
Kidney Jonathan
NUMBER
S. 14295
carded.
CONTENTS
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see let to aft 13th Dec. 33 stating what he was entitled to - also see agt letter within
South west m a. B.
24. 175  New York
Jonathan Kidney Albany in the State of New York was a Private in the Comp. commanded by Captain Hume of the Regt. commanded by Col. Saling in the New York line for 6 months and 2 days
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 22 Dollars 50 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7 day of Nov. 1833 and sent to Hannah Albany
Arrears to the 4th of Sep. '33 $36.25 Semi-annual allowance ending 4th Mch '34 11.25  $68.50
Revolutionary Claim, paid June 7, 1832.
Recorded by Go. Collins Clerk Book E. Vol. 4, Page 64.

In the matter of Jonathan Kidney an application for a Pension under the act of Congress of June 7. 1832.
add d Declaration etc.
Admitted
Private 6mo & 23 days

State of New York
23 rd
Albany Justice Court
Be it known that on the XX th day of October 1833 personally appeared before the Justice Court of the City of Albany, Jonathan Kidney of the City of Albany, who being duly sworn in open Court, deponeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: -
1. In the year 1777 I served as a private in the Company of Militia commanded by Capt. Horn , in Col. Livingston's Regiment under the command of Genl. Philip Schuyler - on a term of duty at Fort Edward, Fort George, Snookkill, Saratoga &c - as stated in my original declaration, but less than three months and half - that is from about the first of July to about the 23 rd of October.
2. In the same year 1777 I also served as a private in the Company of Militia, commanded by Capt. Price , on a term of duty to Hartford in Connecticut, as stated in my original declaration, for a period of not less than twelve days .
3. In the year 1778 I served as a private in the Company of Militia commanded by Capt. Horn , on a term of duty to Lower Fort, Schoboury & Cobleskill as stated in my original declaration, - on which term I served not less than four weeks .
4. In the year 1778 I served as a private in the Company of Militia commanded by Capt. Nicholas Foreman , on a term of duty to Stone Arabia as stated in my original declaration - On which term I served not less than four weeks .

5. In the former year 1779 I served as a private in the same company of Militia, commanded by Capt. Jerusalem, on a tour of duty to Flat-Plain on the Mechanick, as stated in my original declaration, - On which tour I served not less than twelve weeks - one * month
6. In the fall of the year 1782 I went out, in the capacity of a Mariner or Sailor  seaman , on a cruise, in the Privateer Brig Scammel, (she was a square rigged vessel) commanded by Capt. Stoddard - We sailed from Providence in the State of Rhode Island - I recollect that the sailing Master's name was Pierce - We were out on the cruise about a fortnight, and were then taken within about a day's sail of Sandy Hook, by the British Frigate Jason - the 50 Gun ship Renown being in company with her - Part of the crew of the Privateer was put on board of the Jason, & a part of them on board of the Renown - I was put on board of the Renown & was taken into New York - I was then transferred to the old Jersey Prison Ship - I remained a prisoner until May following, when Peace was proclaimed - Part of the time I was confined on board the Jersey Prison Ship & part of the time on board the Hospital Ship - I recollect that the news of Peace was publicly read on board the Jersey Prison Ship, to the Prisoners - and we were immediately discharged - We were sent up

with a Flag to Dobbs Ferry and there waited I stopped at Fish Point, where I received two days provisions, by the direction of the commanding officer - From there I went to Newburgh where the army then lay - I then got six days provisions & a half pint of rum - & then came home to Albany, in a skiff -
I was taken prisoner as above mentioned four times in November - and remained a prisoner not less than five months .
At the time I made my original declaration I was not informed whether I was entitled to my allow- -ance for the time I was a prisoner as above stated, and therefore did not mention a claim it in my said declaration - But I now claim it if the Law entitles me to it, - in addition to my other services -
* I further state that in regard to my services in the year 1779 under Capt. Holman at Fish Point, I am now satisfied that the statement of the time I was engaged in said town in my original declaration, is a mistake - that time  the time should have been here stated, at one month as above and not twelve weeks -
Sworn and subscribed in open court this 23 d day of October
1833 - John P. Watson Clerk
Jonathan H. Dreyer

State of New York
Albany Justice's Court ss. I, Derrick Hilton of the Town of Bethlehem of the County of Albany, Farmer, being only now in open court, deposits as follows viz - I am seventy seven years old - I am well acquainted with Jonathan Kidney, the person named in the annexed supplemental or additional declaration, and now present in court - I have known him from his childhood - I recollect being in the service with him in the year 1778. I was then an Ensign in a company of Militia commanded by Capt. Jeremiah. The said Kidney was then a private in the Company of Militia commanded by Capt. Hurn - Both of said Companies were stationed at Lower Fort in Schoharie in the months of July & August of that year - I recollect that I was ordered by Col. Coyle to go with a detach- ment of volunteers from the different Companies to Cobleskill, about 12 miles above Lower Fort - The detachment was under my command & consisted of 24 men - and said Kidney was one of them - The object on this expedition was to protect the inhabitants whilst engaged in harvest - We were on this service about four days & then returned to Lower Fort - This was in the month of August 1778 - We were out on the above mentioned tour at the Lower Fort, not less than one month - I recollect that said Kidney was there during the whole of the said tour -
In the year 1778 I was also in the service with said Kidney - We both belonged to Capt. Jeremiah's Company - I was Ensign of said Company & said Kidney was a private in the same -
We were out on a tour of duty to Stone Arabia - We were in the month of October & returned home the latter part of November - We were out about a month on this tour -
In the year 1779 I was also again in the service with said Kidney, in the same Company, still commanded by Capt. Jeremiah

I was Brigadier General Kidney was a private in said company - We were ordered from here on a tour of duty to Fort Plain - which was then commanded by Col. Mumpfe - Col. Cuyler was Colonel of our Regiment at that time - We were not on this tour, not less than one month - The above was the only time of duty in which, so far as I now recollect the said Kidney myself served together - But I recollect the fact that in the year 1777 the said Kidney was sent with a detachment under Capt. Price, to Hartford in Connecticut, with some British prisoners - I do not recollect how long he was gone - I also well recollect that said Kidney returned in the Spring of the year 1783, after the Peace, returned to Albany, having been as I then understood, a prisoner in New- York for several months, on board of the Prison Ship - I recollect that he left Albany in the month of October in the year 1782, & returned in the month of May 1783 - I have heard his sup- plemental & additional declaration read, & I have no doubt that the whole of his statement therein, is correct & true - I know said Kidney to be a man of good character for truth & veracity -
Given to be subscribed in open Court
Jan. 16, this 23 d day of
October 1833
John G. Wapson Clerk
I hereby certify that the above named Derrick Hotten is a credible Witness - By order of the Court -
Attest the seal thereof this 23 d Oct r 1833.
John G. Wapson Clerk

Abstract of the above declaration of the Kidney-
  1 st From Fort Bragg to, under Capt. { Months - days   Found - in 1777 - as a private } - 3 - 15   2 nd - to Hartford under Capt. Paine - as a private . 12   4 th to Stone Arabia - in 1778 under Capt. {   Jerusalem - as a private } - . 28   3 rd To Lower Fort to, - under Capt. {   There in 1778, as a private } - . 28   5 th To Fort Plain under Capt. Jerusalem {   in 1779, - as a private } - 1. 00     6. 23   As a prisoner in New York in the years {   1782 & 1783 } - 5. 00     Charges for services - } - Months 11. 23 days   

June 14, 1938
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Jonathan Kidney, S.14295 BA-J/MOS
Mrs. Josephine M. Whitney 838 Jefferson Avenue Brooklyn, New York
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your request for information relative to Jonathan Kidney of Albany, New York, who served in the Revolutionary War.
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, S.14295, based on the military service of Jonathan Kidney.
He was born December 10, 1759. The place of his birth and the names of his parents were not given.
In 1776 he was enrolled in Captain William Hunn's company in Colonel Lansing's New York regiment. About July 1, 1777, he was ordered into active service and rendered the following tours: from about the first of July, 1777, until about October 22, 1777, as private in Captain William Hunn's company in Colonel Lansing's New York regiment and was in the battle of Snookskill; in 1777, twelve days as private in Captain Price's New York company; from July, 1778, four weeks as private in Captain Hunn's company in Colonel Abraham Cuyler's New York regiment; from October, 1778, four weeks as private in Captain Nicholas Joralemon's New York company; in 1779, one month as private in Captain Nicholas Joralemon's company in Colonel Cuyler's New York regiment. He served at various times with the New York troops in the years, 1780, 1781 and 1782, amounting to one year in all, and was engaged in guard duty and in apprehending disaffected persons. He entered the service at Providence, Rhode Island, in October, 1782, as mariner on board the brig, Scammel, commanded by Captain Stoddard, and in November the Scammel was captured by the British frigates, Jason and Renown, and Jonathan Kidney was transferred to the Renown, carried to New York and placed on the old Jersey Prison Ship and remained on said ship and on the Hospital Ship until May, 1783, when he returned to his home in Albany, New York, peace having been proclaimed.

1832 Jonathan Kidney was allowed pension on his application executed November 3, 1832, at which time he was living in Albany, New York.
The papers in this pension claim contain no data relative to the family of Jonathan Kidney.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

1908 Feb 6 - Hist. to Peter Putnam V.P.M. 1938 June 14 Hist. to Mrs. Josephine M. Whitney, M.C.
Rev. M.
✓ 14295 INVALID.
File No. 14295
Jonathan Kidney Priv. Rev. War.
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index: — Vol. 7, Page 317
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Jonathan H. Drey. 24.175 $22.50 right.
Handbook

HVV
Albany N.Y. Jan 28. 1908
To the Commissioner of Pensions, Washington D.C.
My Dear Sir,
Will you kindly inform me if one Jonathan Kidney's name, of this city, appears on the pension rolls of soldiers of the Revolutionary War, in your department.
He is said to have been drafted in the Militia of this state under Gen Schuyler in the year 1777, and to have served at Fort Edward, and Saratoga N.Y. and Bennington Vt., and subsequently embarked at New Haven Conn., on a vessel as a privateer, and to have been taken prisoner by the British, and placed in the Jersey prison ship at Wallabout, where he was confined for six months, when he was released and traveled on foot to Gen Washingtons headquarters at New-

burgh from which he was not home.
Also inform me whether the name of one Jacob Mansburgh of this city who is said to have fought in the war of 1812 appears in the pension rolls in your department and oblige.
Sincerely Yours
Peter Putnam.
189 Hudson Av. Albany N.Y.

Veterans Administration Washington D.C.
Will you kindly give me the Record of my great great grandfather Jonathan Kidney in the Revolution. He was a pensioner. his home was Albany N.Y. I want this for record for the

Daughters of the American Revolution, and early answer will be appreciated
Thank you
Very Truly
(Mrs) Josephine M. Whitney
838 Jefferson Ave
June 2/38 Brooklyn, N.Y.

sion on file in this Bureau.
Jonathan Kidney S. F. 14295
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     about July 1 1776 about Oct 22, 1777 Pvt. William Han Lansing N.Y.   1777 12 days " Price   July 1778 4 weeks " Han Abraham Cuyler   from Oct 1778 4 weeks " Nicholas Jerusalem Col. Cuyler   1779 1 mo. " Nicholas Jerusalem   1780-1781 & 1782 1 year on guard duty & apprehending disaffected persons   Fall of 1782  in company with British frigate Jason and the Renown, was put on board of the Renown & transferred to the Old Jersey Prison Ship, remained a prisoner on said ship and on a hospital ship until the following May.   
Battles engaged in, Saratoga
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Albany N.Y.
Date of application for pension, Nov. 3 1832. His claim was al.
Residence at date of application, Albany N.Y.
Age at date of application, Born Dec. 10, 1759
Remarks:
Very respectfully,
[Signature]
Commissioner.

W
James L. Barrard Esq. Commissioner of Enrolments Washington

Office Bank Wenika State, New York Dec 2 nd 1833
Sir,
The Certificate of Jonathan Kidney dated 7 th Nov 1833 states his Pension to be $22 50 per Annum — he is reported in your Letter of the 7 th Nov r at $69. 68 / 11
I am Very respectfully Yr Your obedt Servt.
Isaac Lawrence Esq. Acting as Agent for Pensions.
James L d Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions.

State of New York County of Albany } ss.
The Declaration of Jonathan Kidney, of the City of Albany, in the County of Albany and State of New York aged on the 10 Decemr, Seventy three years, who being duly sworn, according to law, doth on his Oath, make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832. That he was enrolled in the Company of Militia Comman- ded by Captain William Hun of Col: Lansing's Reg t in the year 1776 and in the early part of the month of July 1778 he was ordered to and did march with Captain Hun's Company and the greater part of the Reg t under the Command of Major (afterwards Colonel) Abraham Cuyler to the lower Fort of Schoharie of which Major Cuyler then took the Command; and from thence this Declarer was ordered with a detachment of the Company to which he be- longed (and of whom Ensign Derick Hilton had the Command) to march to a place called Sobels Kill, a distance of about 12 miles from the fort, at which place the detachment remained about 4 days and then marched back to the lower Fort aforesaid; where after being in garrison for four weeks, the Reg t marched back to Albany and were dismissed — In 1779 this Declarer was ordered out under Captain Jerusalem to march to Stone Arabia with the Reg t of Col: Lansing, and after remaining there for some time, returned to Alba- ny and were dismissed, after a tour of four weeks. — In the same year 1779 this Declarer was again ordered out under Capt: Jerusalem, and marched up the Mohawk River to Fort Plain then Commanded by Col: Ab m Wierdick, and found the surrounding farm houses & buildings on fire, the cattle and fattened hogs killed and lying on the fields and in the farm yards, and very many women & children, scalped, amongst them, one woman in an advanced state of pregnancy, and a girl of about ten years old who had been scalped but still alive, and who, as this Declarer has not long since been informed, has survived and become the mother of a family — and that on this tour, this Declarer was in service on x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x this Second tour to Fort Plain, for a period of twelve Weeks — In the year 1777 (which this Declarer has inadvertently neglected to relate in its order) this Declarer was ordered out under Capt: Hun to march from Albany to Saratoga, and from thence to Fort Edward, under the Command of Genl: Philip Schuyler, and did duty there and at Fort George, and then when the troops were ordered to retreat, this declarer marched to Smock Kill and from thence retreated downward until arrived at Saratoga, from thence to Bemis's heights (but previously this Declarer had been in the battle of Kill), and afterwards and subsequent to the capture of Burgoyne & his army, this Declarer marched to Albany, and from thence marched with a detach- ment of Albany Militia under the Command of Capt: Price of that City, as a guard to conduct part of Burgoyne's Army to Hartford in Connecticut, & when returned from Hartford, was dismissed, after having been in service in the said year 1777 a period of four months — In 1780, 1781 & 1782, this Declarer hath been on duty and in the service of the United States from time to time, in a variety of duties, such as marching with detachments of the mili- tia to apprehend disaffected persons in the neighborhood of Albany; in guarding the public property and stores deposited there for convenience of transportation to the

frontiers, and for protection and safety against the disaffected; and also in mounting guard almost continually within the city, and for securing those who had been confined for treason, or as spies from the enemy, or those who having been tried and convicted, had been ordered for execution, and who were afterwards executed and that in those several aforesaid years he has performed duty for a period, in all, of one year. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency roll of any state.
Subscribed & sworn to the 3 d Nov. 1832. Jonathan Kidney John G. Watson Clk
We Frederick G. Meyer a Clergyman residing in the city of Albany and William M. Dicumond residing in the city of Catskill do certify, that we are well acquainted with Jonathan Kidney, who has subscribed & sworn to the foregoing declaration; that we believe him to be seventy two years and upwards of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighbourhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day & year aforesaid John G. Watson Clk
Frederick G. Meyer Pastor of the Lutheran Church in Albany
We Nicholas Foralemon formerly a captain of a militia company in the city of Albany during the American Revolutionary War, and Derick Hilton of Bethlehem, formerly and in the said Revolutionary war an Ensign and Lieutenant in the Companies of militia commanded by Captain Foralemon and Lieut. Scott, do severally swear and declare, that the foregoing declaration of Jonathan Kidney by whom the same has been subscribed & sworn to, has been distinctly and deliberately read to us; that the particulars therein, as to the periods of the War, and the length of service performed by the said Jonathan Kidney we know to be truly set forth; and that the character of the said Jonathan, who is a near and intimate acquaintance of these deponents, is well established for truth and veracity.
Subscribed & sworn in open court This 3 d of Nov. 1832 John G. Watson Clk
Nicholas Foralemon Derick Hilton
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting interrogatories prescribed by the War Department. That the above applicant was a revolutionary soldier as he states, and that the above named witnesses are well known to this court and their statements are entitled to full credit.
I John G. Watson clerk of the justice court of the city of Albany do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Jonathan Kidney for a pension testimony whereof I have hereunto set the seal of the said court this 3 d day of November 1832
John G. Watson Clk