Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 5714, for John Jones, North Carolina

SERVICE
NUMBER
N.C.
Va.
Jones, John
R. 5-714
CONTENTS
Apr 3 1746 in Morris Co. N Jersey Resided Henry Co. Va. Resided Grayson Co. Va.

16, 876 Two Lines
Rejected Pass not elown for the sum of his substantial
Samuel M. Samuel Richard

BRIEF in the case of
16,876  John Jones in the State of pa. (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 86  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
76
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     18-17 1 private Capt Hardin -   1 15 " Capt Stephenson  
He first served a short time but don't say how long - under listing Master Andrew Armstrong
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Henry Co. pa.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Tradition  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Right 
I certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
W.C. Easton Examining Clerk.  21 Feb. 1832

State Virginia
County of Greensville on this 24 th day of September in the year of our Lord 1832 personally appeared in open court Before the Justices of the County Court now sitting John Jones a Resident in the County aforesaid in the State of Virginia of the age of 86 years the 3 rd day of April 1832 who being first duly sworn according to Law do hereby his oath in make the following declaration in order to ob- tain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832 that he enlisted in the service of the United States and entered the service under the Acting Master Andrew Armstrong he saith he can't recollect the day or month But it was in the year 76 when the Regiment entered the service and in a short time he substituted Oliver Abbott to serve in his place in the United States service which was raised by Col Martin Armstrong of Surry County in the State of North Carolina which Discharged him and he was in no engagement he had not the opportunity of knowing the officers as for the Regiment it was said and he served in Henry County in State War when he entered the service he was enlisted 1 st Second Town Entered a volunteer under Cpt William Harden for one month about the Blue Ridge after the Siege then Discharged — then volunteer under Cpt Jacob Stephenson one month and 15 days and was marched through to Big Sandy Country after the Encampment which officers was William and further says he has no documentary Evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service —

I her by Relinquish Every Claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity Except the present one as under that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State) Questioned By Court
1) where were you born and what year) he saith my father told me I was born in Morris County East Jersey in the year 1746
2) have you any record of your age and if so where is it) he saith in Bible at Isaac Branscom's
3) where were you living when called into service where have you lived since the Revolution war and where do you now live) he saith in Henry County Va where called into service and since the Revolution war and now lives in Grayson County of the State of Virginia
4) how were you called into service) he said 1 st Infantry Second and 13 th Tower Volunteers
5) state the names of some of the Regular officers who were with the troops where you served such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your service) he saith I now none particular But two Cpt William Harden Jacob Stephenson Except the listing Master At-Arms strong judgement was sent me not the Division
6) did you ever receive a discharge from the service if so by whom was it given what has become of it) he saith I received three Discharges 1 st By Col Merten Armstrong 2 nd by Cpt William Harden 3 rd by Cpt Jacob Stephenson further saith he lost his pocket book and all his discharge papers

7) State the names of persons to whom you are now in your present neighbourhood and who can testify as to your character for morality and good behaviour and your services as a soldier of the Revolution. He saith Irwin Montgomery Esqr John Cook Esqr who are acquainted with me as for any persons to prove my services I do not John Jones mark
Irwin Montgomery and John Cook Esqrs Residing in the neighbourhood here By certify that we are well acquainted with John Jones which has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be 86 years of age that he is respected and beloved in the neighbourhood where he used to have been a soldier of the Revolution and we con- cur in that opinion Sworn to and subscribed the day and year as above said
Irwin Montgomery
John Cook
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the inter- rogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that Irwin (Montgomery) and John Cook who have signed the preceding certificate are clergymen residing in the County of Grayson and are credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I Martin Dickenson, Clerk of the Court of Grayson County, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Jones for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of said Court at Office, this 15 th day of October 1882
M. Dickenson
Rev Wm Pentecost Richmond Va
John Jones 10876

May 17, 1939.
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BA-J/OC John Jones R.5714 Over
Martha Rebecca Doughton Guilford College, North Carolina.
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Jones who was born in Morris County, New Jersey, enlisted from Henry County, Virginia and was living in Grayson County, Virginia in 1832, and that of John Fields of North Carolina.
In order to identify the particular John Fields in whom you are interested please furnish as much as possible of the following data in regard to him: approximate dates of birth and death, place of residence at enlistment and after service and given name of wife or widow.
You are furnished herein the record of John Jones as found in pension claim R.5714, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.
John Jones was born April 3, 1746, in Morris County, New Jersey, names of his parents are not shown.
John Jones applied for pension September 24, 1832, while a resident of Grayson County, Virginia, and stated that while a resident of Henry County, Virginia he enlisted in 1776, under the enlisting master Andrew Armstrong, served a short time when he obtained a substitute to serve in his place; that he volunteered later, served one month under Captain William Harden in the Blue Ridge after the Tories; that he volunteered later and served one month, fifteen days under Captain Jacob Stephenson in pursuit of the Indians.

His claim for pension was not allowed as he did not serve six months as required by the pension law under which he applied.
No family data are shown.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

1937 - May 17 visit to Martha R. Houghton Co
5414
P. O. 1832 Va
John Jones born in N.J.
Service: in N.C. Sunnyside
of Grayson Co Va age 86 yr - 1776 had Subst. letters under Colo Armstrong - 2 - Capt Harden - 3
Enlisted Capt Stephens , 18
Discharged: _____, 18
REJECTED
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleged: The printed list of 1852 gives cause of rejection as
Re-enlisted: "Did not serve six months"
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

Ms. 16.876
John Lones Va.
Rejected
see letter to M. Dick
- enson 4 May 1833 - cannot find this letter
5714
no

16,876 two lines
Sam M. Carnant Richmond Va

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Jones which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? _____ IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? No V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? No VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? No VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
Yes
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XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
Yes
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
Yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
Yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

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Martha Rebecca Doughton Interior Decorator Guilford College, North Carolina
March 26, 1939
Veterans Administration Washington, D. C.
My dear Sir:
Will you please tell me if the pension of John Jones of Grayson Co. Va. who was 86 years old in 1832. Say he was then in Morris County, N. J. & was in Henry Co. Va. when enlisting - Does he give the names of any of his wives or names his children? That is all the proof I have that he is mine.
Very truly yours,
Martha Rebecca Doughton-

PHONE 4104
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Martha Rebecca Doughton Interior Decorator Guilford College, North Carolina
March 26, 1939
Veteran Administration Washington, D.C.
There are 37 N.C.
My dear Sir:
Please tell me if the pension of John Fields of U.C. tells anything about his parents, wife or lists children.
Very truly yours, Martha Doughton
What County was he in during the war?