Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 20,333, for Alexander Kidd, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Kidd, Alexander Coziah Ann
N. 20,333
March 1810
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New York April 3 rd 1850 H. H. Sylvester Washng D.C.
Sir I am directed by M rs Phebe Eastwood one of the two remaining children of the late Alexander Ridd, who served seven years in our army during the revolution, and during the war with England in 1812 again enlisted in the service and died a soldier on Staten Governor's Island to say that her mother a few years before her death recd something but not all that she ought to receive, that the warrant for land has not been recd by any of the children or anything paid to them. all that remain of said Alexander Ridd's children is M rs Phebe Eastwood A Widow and M rs Arvanda Adams the youngest who is the wife of the undersigned wife if you can do anything at Washngton or put M rs Eastwood in the way of obtaining her part of her father's pension or land she tells me she is willing to compensate you for your trouble please direct your answer to me and oblige Y rs &c
Capt, Joseph Adams 182 the Cherry Street New York

New York 2734
Coziah Ann Kidd of Alexander Kidd
NY
who was a prisoner under the Act of
who died on the — June 1815 —
N. York Co. in the State of N. York
who was a Sergeant in the company commanded
by Captain Imbrooke of the Regt. commanded
by Gen. Clinton in the N. York
for 2 years
Enrolled on the Roll of New York
rate of 120 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 19th day of May 1839 and sent to B. de la Pierre, New York
  Arrears to the 14th of March '39  360.00    Semi-annual allowance ending 6 Ap. 'n  60     $420.00  
{ Act July 7, } 1838. }
Recorded by D. Brown Clerk, k A. Vol. 2 Page 86

Caziah Ann Kidd
New York
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Caziah Ann Kidd widow of Alexander New York City, New York
at rest at Rest Nov 1776 to end of life aged 80 yrs
In Vol 3, Final List of Deeds page 173 - Alice Kidd widow of Alexander New York City, New York
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City County and State: Marine Court of of New York City the City of New York
Present Judges
Shuffeldt Scott
On this Twenty fourth day of June in the year of our Lord one thou- sand eight hundred and thirty Seven, personally appeared before the Justices of the Marine Court of the City of New York Mrs. Ber- trigh Anne Ridd a resident of the City County and State of New York, aged Eighty three years the first day of Oct May A.D. 1837, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on her oath make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Con- gress, passed March 4 th A.D. 1836 That she is the widow of Alexander Ridd , who was a Sergeant in the service of the United States, during the whole of the Revolutionary War of this country with Great Britain, who entered the service at the commence- ment of the war by enlisting in the same for and during the war, served during the whole of the war and was discharged at the close of the war at Washington Camp about two miles from Newburgh in the County of Orange and State of New York

Alexander Ridd served as a Hebeu under Mayor Van Dyke of Albany and I know that he served under Captain Denbrooke at the close of the revolutionary war. I believe that Alexander Ridd was at the Battle of White Plains and I know that he was at the battle of the taking of Lord Cornwallis. I believe also that my husband was at the battle of Monmouth and Trenton. I know that my husband was in most, if not all of the great battles, in which General Washington was himself engaged, for I know that my husband was during much of the war with General Washington himself. — My husband was attached to the reinforcements which were sent continually from one division of the Army to another as occasion required. My husband resided at Fort Miller in the State of New York at the time he enlisted and was a sergeant in what were called the "York Troops" General Clinton commanded the "York Troops". I have no documentary evidence in my possession of my husband's service in the Revolutionary War.
She further declares that she was married to the said Alexander Ridd, about the first day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand Seven hundred and eighty three, that her husband the aforesaid Alexander Ridd died at the close of the last war of the United States with Great Britain and that the said

1895
Alexander Kidd died on Governors Island in the service of the United States the next May after peace was declared. He served under Colonel House during the last war with Great Britain. I do not recollect the day he died. I have no documentary evidence in my possession to show what day of the month said Kidd died! I have said above that I was married about the first day of October A.D. 1783. I say "about" because I have not any means of ascertaining the exact day without great trouble. but I know positively that I was married during the month of October A.D. 1783. She further says that she has remained a widow ever since the decease of her husband the said Alexander Kidd, which was at the time aforesaid.
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written. Before me John Green Court B-fry JOHN M. MORTON Justice of the Peace Court Cozart X Ann Kidd mark I do hereby certify that the said Cozart Ann Kidd is entitled to credibility JOHN M. MORTON Justice of the Peace Court

I, John Barbieri Clerk of the Marine Court of the Marine Court of the City of New York Do hereby certify that Wm B. Scott is one of the Justices of the said Court and that the said Court is a Court of Record and that the signature to the foregoing Certificate is his genuine signature -
In Witness Whereof I have hereunto affixed the Seal of the said Court this twenty fourth day of June in the Year of our Lord One thousand eight- hundred and thirty seven
John Barbieri

2734
2756
Admiral Sargent 2 years
B. de la Pierre Esq. New York

DECLARATION
REQUIRED BY
"AN ACT GRANTING HALF PAY AND PENSIONS TO CERTAIN WIDOWS,"
Passed July 7th, 1838.
In Marine Court _____ State of New York } City and county of N. York } ss.
On this thirty first day of August eighteen hundred thirty eight personally appeared before the undersigned one of the Justices of the said Marine Court Coziah Ann Kidd
a resident of the city of New York in the County of New York aged Eighty three years, who, being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress, passed July 7th, 1838, entitled "An Act granting Half Pay and Pensions to certain Widows:" That she is the Widow of Alexander Kidd who was an Orderly Sergeant in the Continental army in the war of the Revolution, as appears from certain papers now at the war department at Washington, she having applied for a pension under the Act of July 4th 1836.
She further Declares, That she was married to the said Alexander Kidd on the _____ day of September in the year seventeen hundred and Eighty three ; that her husband, the aforesaid Alexander Kidd died on the _____ day of June 1815 ; that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to first of January, seventeen hundred and ninety-four, viz : at the time above stated.
SWORN to and subscribed, on the } day and year above written, before }
Coziah Ann X Kidd mark
Judah Hammond one of the Justices of the Marine Court.

I John Barbine clerk of the Marine Court of the City of New York do hereby certify that Judah Hammond is one of the Justices of the said Court and that the said Court is a Court of Record, and that the signature to the within Certificate is his genuine signature.
In Witness whereof I have hereunto affixed the Seal of the said Court this thirty first day of August in the Year of our Lord One Thousand eight hundred and thirty eight
John Barbine
In Marine Court
This is to certify that I am acquainted with the within named Goziah Ann Tidd and that the person now present is the identical Goziah Ann Tidd
Sworn before me
A. de la Pierre
Judah Hammond Justice of the Marine Court
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State of New York. } Town of Montgomery } County of Orange }
I Samuel Spofford of the Town of Montgomery, County of Orange and State of New York of Lawful age being fully sworn do depose and say, that I am now in the seventy fourth year of my age, that I am now drawing a pension as a soldier of the Revolution. I was intimately ac- quainted with Alexander Riddo. I know that he was a sergeant in the army of the United States during the Revolu- tionary war, and I believe that Riddo was a sergeant during the whole of the Revolutionary war. I know that Alex- ander Riddo served as a sergeant for three years under General James Clinton in his Brigade called the "York Troops" and I believe that he, Alexander Riddo under General James Clinton, served dur- ing the whole of the revolutionary war as a sergeant. Alexander Riddo served all the time that he did in any way as a regular, in the regular army. I know that Riddo listed. I was present at the marriage of Alexander Riddo with Coyah Ann Riddo (her name before marriage was Coyah Ann Brundridge) they were married Andrew King of Montgom- ery in the County of Orange and State of New York, immediately after the revolutionary war. I know that Riddo was regularly discharged from the army at the close of the war, at the Camp in the Town of New

Windsor in the County of Orange and State of New York, I am unable to recollect the year said Riddle served in — I do not know whether there is any docu- mentary evidence in existence or not.
Sam l J Crawford
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Orange County S.S.
The above affidavit of Samuel J Crawford who is well known to me & who I believe to be a man of truth and veracity was duly subscribed and sworn to before me this 18 th day of May 1837
Cornelius Keefe Justice of the Peace of the County of Orange
STATE OF NEW YORK, } SS. 1, LEBBEUS L. VAIL, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, in and for the County ORANGE COUNTY, } of Orange, Do Hereby Certify, That Cornelius Keefe before whom the foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in, and for said county: and further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my Hand, and affixed the Seal of the said county, the 12 th day of June
1837
Lebbeus L. Vail, Clerk

(State of New York)
Orange County ss. Thomas Wilson of the town of Newburgh formerly of the town of Montgomery in the County of Orange aforesaid being duly sworn doth depose and say,
That he is now seventy nine years of age, and that he was born in the town of Montgomery aforesaid and has resided there and in the adjoining town of Crawford ever since except while he was engaged in the army of the Revolution, and until he came to reside in the town of Newburgh aforesaid about a year ago.
That he was well acquainted with Alexander Kidd a Revolutionary soldier & who was promoted to the office of Orderly Sergeant that he came to reside in the town of Montgomery aforesaid immediately after the close of the Revolutionary war.
That this deponent was also well acquainted with Gazia Ann Brundage who also resided in the town of Montgomery aforesaid in the year one thousand eight hundred and eighty three.
And this deponent further saith that he well recollects that in the month of September one thousand seven hundred and eighty three that the said Alexander Kidd, and the said Gazia Ann Brundage were intermarried at the town of Montgomery in the County of Orange aforesaid. That they were married by the Rev. Andrew King who resided in the town of Montgomery aforesaid, that he this deponent was present at said marriage & the Grooms man of the said Alexander Kidd. and further that he knows Gazia Ann Kidd to be the same person who was married to the said Alexander

Kidd & knows that she is now living, and also to be the same person who is now applying for the Pension to which she is entitled on account of services rendered by her said husband for services rendered in the Revolutionary war.
And this deponent further saith that he has understood and believes that the said Alexander Kidd died while a soldier in the late war and further this deponent saith not. —
Th s Wilson
(State of New York)
Orange County ss. I Benjamin H. Mace a Justice of the Peace in & for the County of Orange aforesaid, do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Thomas Wilson who is described in & who signed the preceding affidavit, and know him to be a creditable witness and believe him to be entitled to full credit & belief. And further that the said Thomas Wilson was duly sworn before me that the contents of the preceding affidavit were true on the 9 th day of September one thousand eight hundred and thirty seven. —
B. H. Mace Justice of the Peace
STATE OF NEW YORK, } ss. I, LEBBEUS L. VAIL, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, in and for the County of Orange, do hereby certify, That Benjamin H. Mace before whom the foregoing Affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in, and for said county: and further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Affidavit & Certificate is genuine.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my Hand, and affixed the Seal of the said county, the 7 th day of December
1837
Lebbeus L. Vail Clerk

State of New York Town of Montgomery County of Orange ss
I Andrew Wilson of the Town of Montgomery County of Orange and State of New York of lawful age being duly sworn do depose and say that I am now in the sixty sixth year of my age, that I am now driving a plow as a soldier of the revolution, I was well acquainted with Alexander Ridd, I know that he was a sergeant during the whole of the revolutionary war, I know that Ridd served un- der General James Clinton during the whole war in what were called the "York troops" I know that said Ridd enlisted in the regular army and was dis- charged at the close of the war, at the Camp in the Town of Windsor in the County of Orange and State of New York I was present at the marriage of Alexander Ridd to Betsy Ann Ridd, whose maiden name was Betsy Ann Brund- ridge, they were married about a year after the close of the war, they were mar- ried by Rev Andrew King of Montgomery, in the County of Orange and State of New York. I do not recollect the regiment said Ridd served in, nor the officers names. I do not know whether there is any documentary evidence or not to prove said Ridd's service,
Andrew Wilson

Orange County SS
The Within affidavit of Andrew Milton who is well known to me and whom I believe to be a man of truth & veracity was duly subscribed and sworn to before me this 18 th day of May 1837.
Orpheus Neff Justice of the Peace of the County of Orange
STATE OF NEW YORK, } ss. I, LEBBEUS L. VAIL, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, in and for the County of Orange, Do Hereby Certify, That Orpheus Neff before whom the foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was, at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in, and for said county: and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County, the 12 th day of June
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Lebbeus L. Vail
B. 733

State of New York City and County of New York ss
Rebecca Matilda Eastwood, resident of the City County and State of New York of Lawful age, being duly sworn do depose and say that I have for a long time past, for about thirty years been intimately acquainted with Rebecca Anne Ridd, widow of Alexander Ridd. That I have also for the same length of time known intimately the said Rebecca Anne Ridd. That I also was well acquainted with Alexander Ridd until the time of his death. I know that Alexan- der Ridd died the next May after peace was declared between the United States and England in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifteen fifteen. I know that Alexander Ridd per- ished at the time of his death under Col Hourse as a soldier of the army of the United States in the late war with Great Britain and died on Governors Island. I know that Rebecca Anne Ridd is the widow of said Alexander

STATE OF NEW-YORK, CITY AND COUNTY OF NEW-YORK, } ss.
I, Thomas Jeremiah , Clerk of the City and County of New-York, and also Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the said City and County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That James Palmer, Esq _____ before whom the annexed affidavit was taken, was, at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace _____ in and for said City and County, duly commissioned and sworn, and that his signature thereto subscribed is genuine, as I verily believe.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said Court and County, the 9 _____ day of June 183 7 .
Th. Jeremiah Clerk.
since the the said the whole at Alex- rs Island the serving in the ich the all shown.

Alexander. I know that this deposition is taken for the purpose of enabling said Abijah Aun Kidd to obtain the pension which I suppose she is entitled to for the services of her husband the said Alexander Kidd, rendered by him to this country during the Revolutionary War. I have been in the habit of seeing Mrs Abijah Aun Kidd daily ever since the decease of her husband the said Alexander Kidd. and I know the said Mr Abijah Aun Kidd has never been married since his decease. I know the said Mrs Abijah Aun Kidd has resided in the City of New York since the decease of her husband the said Alexander Kidd for the whole of that period. I know that Alexander Kidd died on Governors Island and was at the time of his death serving as a Soldier under Col Hove in the late War with England, which the rolls at Washington I suppose will show.
Subscribed & sworn to before me May 25. 1837 James Palmer
Phebe Matilda her X Eastwood mark
I certify that I am personally acquainted with Phebe Matilda Eastwood, who signed the above - That I believe her to be a woman of truth and veracity - May 25. 1837 -
James Palmer

Woon of Peru Jan 22. 1858.
Br. Sir,
I have the honor to enclose a letter from Mr. Brooks, in relation to the application of Mrs. Riddell for a Pension re- New, I pray you to return me the enclosed letter, with the decision of your office.
I ought to be given you so much trouble by my continued applications - But the wishes of my constituents must be obeyed -
Very respectfully & truly
Yours &c.
G. Hoffman
J. I. Edwards Esq.

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To B. F. Butler Esq. Secretary of War. Washington D. Columbia
C. Ann Kidd
Miss Atkinson
19. June
Concord Mass
19 June 1837
2179
13733
3535

City of New York
June 14 th 1837
Will the Secretary at War please to return me an answer in reference to the enclosed pension papers. And if any other evidence should be necessary - please to state in what particulars proof is required. I trust however the enclosed affidavit will be found sufficient
Yours Ob t Ser v !
To the Honorable B. F. Butler, Secretary at War, -
Edwin L. B. Brooks
Office N o 14. Chambers St. N. York
In Let to E L B Brooks 20 th Feb 37
At Hunt No Number

27 June E S B Brooks Care Mrs 6 am Wed out 4 July 36 Stewart
H. S. Edwards Esq. Commission of Pensions Washington D.C.
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6210

New York Jan 24. 1837
Mr Edwards Sir please to inform me as soon as possible of the result of your investigations. This poor widow, if she can get this money, most certainly stands in need of it - and that soon
Yours &c.
E. S. D. BROOKS
Offic N o 14. Chambers St. N. York.

C. L. B. 1884-85
July 26. 1887 N.Y.
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33 1887

War Dept. P. M. Office July 22, 1887
Sir The declaration of Cozart Kidd widow of Alexander Kidd has been examined & filed with suspended cases in this office. She should exhibit records & docu- ments proof of the period of marriage if attainable. If there is no such proof it should be so made to appear, and the testimony of witnesses exhibited who had a personal knowledge of the period of marriage. It is indispens- ably necessary that the period of mar- riage should be established by the most satisfactory proof. Some more specific statement of the names of the officers under whom the claimant husband served should also be made. Either the number of the regiment or the name of the officer who commanded it should be given if possible. Enclosed is a printed copy of the regulation indicated July 1886. E. L. B. Brooks Esq. N o . 14. Chambers Street, New York

New York January 12 th 1838
Mr Gordon Sir
I wish to obtain some information from you in reference to obtaining the Military Bounty lands, which I am informed and believe the officers & soldiers, who served in the army of the United States during the last war with Great Britain, are entitled to. The case which I have in hand is this - Mr Alexander Ridd enlisted for five years, at the commencement of the last war with England, he died the May following the conclusion of the last war having served during the whole war - he was over fifty years of age at the time he enlisted - he died in the service of the United States on Governors Island in the State of New York - Mr Ridd had never obtained any warrant of course for lands - he has left a widow & a number of children. His widow and children are now living. These I believe are the facts - be pleased Sir, to inform me, whether the widow is entitled to lands, & if so - how many acres, & if she has a right to locate her lands in any of the States or Territories, in which Military Lands have been surveyed - please Sir to give me such information on this subject as will enable me
write for the man who is the next of kin

to obtain the lands for the widow (if she be entitled), with as soon as possible. I wish you to forward me the several acts of Congress on this subject & also the Rules of Evidence which the President or the Department have prescribed for taking testimony in matters of this kind.
I trust Sir you do me the favor to return an answer to this communication at the earliest day yours with great respect
Edwin L. B. Brooks office N o 3 Nassau Street. City of New York.
To William Gordon Edyfin
N.B. The said Alexander Ridd was a private clerk , in the service of the United States.

Declaration has been received but unexpected further contested. To be announced this office - 1 B. P.
Benjamin J. Butler Esq. Secretary of War of the U States Washington D. Columbia
20 July 1837 General office
B. 758

New York 15 th July 1834
Mr Butler Sir
Mrs Royiah Ridd, the widow of Alvan Ridd, a Soldier of the Revolutionary War, has sent her Declaration to Washington agreeably to the directions of the Commission of Pensions, which Declaration I directed to the Commissioner of Pensions about four weeks since and have not yet received any answer from him, and fearing the Declaration of said Widow may never have been received by the Commissioner I have taken the liberty to address you on the subject and to request that as much dispatch may be had in the premises as possible as the poor widow is really in need of the assistance of the Government if she is entitled to it.
Edm d S. B. Brooks
To the Honorable G. F. Butler } Secretary of War }
Office No. 14. Chambers St. N. York

St. John's, Antigua, Leeward Commissioner of Police
2179 Dec 12
My
Capt. DeM Kidd R.N. -
Re: Mr. Brooks's case.
J. S. Edwards
Commissioner of Police Washington D. Columbia

New York December 9 th 1837
Mr Edwards Sir
I herewith send you the disposition of Thomas Wilson in reference to the matter of Mrs Kidd's pension, which I suppose she is entitled to in consequence of the services of her husband Alexander Kidd during the whole of the Revolutionary War, in your last letter to me you say that it is desirable to have additional testimony in reference to the time of the marriage of Mrs Kidd with Alexander Kidd, the time is fixed in the month of September, and appears to be clearly fixed, in as much as the said disposition Wilson was Groomsman on that occasion, you also say in your last communication to me that it is desirable to have more testimony in reference to the officers under whom said Alexander Kidd in the war of the Rebellion served, on this subject I do not know that we shall be able to furnish you with any more satisfactory evidence, - Permit me here, Sir, to say with deference to your better opinion on subjects of this kind, that it does appear to me that under the circumstances of each of this last we have complied with the rules of evidence prescribed in reference to pensions, and on reference to the testimony on file in your office this base you will find, that the names of some of the officers under whom said Alexander Kidd served are mentioned - that he served during the whole of the war as present that he was married to the said Lydia Ann Kidd in the month of September 1783, that said Kidd died in the service of the United States during the last war with Great Britain, on Governor Island that the said Lydia Ann Kidd is the widow of the said Alexander Kidd, that she has never been married since the death of the said Alexander Kidd, that said

Alexander Ridd served in what was called "Yute Troops" in the State of Oregon - and you will also find in the testimony of this case a great variety of other facts which it is unnecessary to mention here. placing the right of the widow to the pension, which the said Alexander Ridd would be entitled to were he being beyond all possible doubt as it appears to me. This woman is now as she has testified eighty three years of age & is very poor indeed - She feels great impatience at the delay in this case knowing as she does the justice of her case. Be pleased Sir, in the Ridds case to give me, as speedily an answer as possible
Though this Ridd is poor she is very respectable being a connection of the Hon. Ogden Hoffman who will do all in his power to aid & assist her. - He forwarded the papers in reference to a pension claimed by Hannah Brooks of Cornwall in the State of Connecticut, to you, about two weeks since and have yet heard nothing. please Sir to return me an answer in relation to those papers as soon as possible - Hannah Brooks claims as widow of Samuel Brooks. I think in reference to those papers there can be no question, -
Pardon me Sir for sending you such a multitudes sheet of paper I was not aware of the fact until I had nearly finished my letter.
Yours with great respect
Edwin L. B. Brooks
Office N o 3 Nassau Street N.Y.
To Hon. Simon S. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions

New York March 6. 1838
Mr. Parnell Sir
will you inform me how much land if any Mrs. Sarah Anne Kidd is entitled to. whose husband served three years in the with Genl. Putnam  last war , and who at the expiration of that time died in the service, and who was entitled for five years Kidd served as a private in Col House's regiment on Governor's Island in N. York & died in service on the Island. his widow has not since been married. I wish you to inform me whether the rolls of Col House's regiment are in Washington. if they are in Washington you will then find his name. I wish you to inform me what course to take in order
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to obtain her lands. She is poor and needs the benefit of the law  act .
Yours with
To the Hon. the Secretary of War. }
Great Respt. Edwin S. B. Brooks
U. S. N. Office N. 10. Chambers St.
required further information, also evidence showing that he is authorized by the Act to make such inquiry.
March 23. 1838

New York March 1 st '38
Sir /
Alexander Kidd , a soldier of the late war, enlisted for 5 yrs. and died in the service; he served under Col. House - with Mr. Gordon let me know if he was entitled to bounty Land.
write for number of the Reg't the usual authority for the inquiry
Very Respect ly
Br. Ob't Serv t
Isaac G. Tibbir
No. 1 Beekman St
Wm Gordon Esq.

Alexander India is not found in the Rules of the Court of Writings - who enlisted him? Third Auditory Office September 8/7838

New York July 25. 1848.
Mr. Gordon
Since the 12 th January last I wrote you a letter in reference to a bounty bond, which I believe Alexander Kidd was entitled to, for services rendered during the last war, and in showing his service, the head roll of company he was entitled to. In reply to my letter in June of 1848, you say, "that no examination of his case can be made, unless the number of the Regiment or battery, to which he was attached, — or the name or rank of the officer under whom he served & when and where he died is stated."
"When, that is done, you say, an investigation will be made."
I have the honor to inform you that Col (Hoxie) commanded the Regiment in which Alex r Kidd served. That Kidd enlisted for five years at the commencement of the war, — That he served under Col Hoxie from the commencement of the war on Governor Island in the State of New York, until some time in May the same year that place was proclaimed, when he died in service on Governor Island in the State of N. York, —
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Hildd died in the actual service of the U.S. States and was buried upon Governor Island. All the Rolls of the that portion of the Army which served on Governor Island, and the Books are at Washington, by consulting which the names of the Officers of the Company to which Hildd belonged, as well as his own name will appear. I trust Sir, that you will do the favor to make an examination; and to inform me in your answer to this letter, what proof must be made, (in addition to the evidence which the Rolls & Books at Washington contain) in order to entitle the heirs to the bounty lands. If you have any rules of evidence furnished for the use of you, Department, please to furnish me with a copy.
Please to return me an answer to this communication at the earliest day.
Yours with great respect
Edm. H. Brooks
To William Gordon Lupton, Q.M. & Paymaster of the Army, Office 222 B. Way, N. York

Sister Cousin
Love a kind
To North
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J. S. Edwards Count. of Benin Washington D. Columbia

New York August 29. 29. 1838
Mr Edwards
Sir
I have received your letter dated the 7 th of August last. in answer to mine of the 31 st July 1838 in reference to the claim of H. A. Kidd widow of Alexander Kidd In your letter you say that Mrs H. A. Kidd should comply with the regulations of the War Department of the 7 th July 1838 in order to obtain the pension under the act of July 7 th 1838. You also say that Mrs H. A. Kidd will have the full benefit of the papers filed in her application under the act of the 4 th of July 1838.
I do not understand what additional testimony you require, if you require any, nor do I understand whether all the testimony in the case is to be taken "de novo" If Mrs H. A. Kidd is to have the full benefit of the evidence latter already in her case, why does that testimony not now comply with the act of the 7 th July 1838 for the only objection raised to her claim under the act of July 4 th 1838, was, that it appears in evidence, that Mrs H. A. Kidd was married in the month of September 1783 and that her husband left the service in June 1783. Please to inform me whether any additional evidence is required and if any what evidence? Your obt. Servt.
to Hon. J. S. Edwards, } War. Department. }
C. S. D. Brooks 333 B. Ward

E. L. B. Brooks,
September 5, 1838.
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War Dep't Pension Office Sept. 5. 1838
Sir,
In answer to your letter of the 29 th ult o . I have to inform you that Mrs. Coziah Ann Kidd, widow of Alexander Kidd, dec d . must in order to obtain the benefits of the act of July 7. 1838 make a declaration before a Court of record, in strict conformity with the rules, contained in the enclosed printed sheet. The declaration must be authenticated by the certificate of the Clerk of the Court, under his seal of office. No other paper will be required in the case.
D
L. B. Brooks, Esq No. 333, Broadway, New York
H. Jefferson N o 2179 - act 4 July 1836 N. York bar -

Hon. James L. Edwards

New-York October 23 d 1838
Hon. James L. Edwards
Sir)
Whereby accompanied are the papers of the widow Van Orden who applies for a pension under the Act of 1838; - You will perceive that her marriage certificate got a little mutilated while in my possession, not so much, however, as to destroy any essential part, I trust it will not be objected to on that account.
I also enclose the declaration of the widow Kidd, she informs me that she had applied for a pension, but not then coming within the meaning of the Act, it was not granted. She now applies under the last act, which provides for cases like hers. She having already sent on her proofs, begs leave to refer you to them.
Your circular has been received, and I promise to conform to its contents, I will not be importunate, but patiently wait till my papers come to their turn, all I should beg leave to ask is, an announcement of the receipt of them that I may inform the parties, and to keep them quiet, till further word from you, I will charge myself with.
Respectfully
B. de la Pierre

May 13 50
Sir
I will thank you to let me see the pension papers of Mrs. Kezick and her late of New York. The enclosed letter will explain the reason. You will please return the letter.
Yours Respectfully H. H. Sylvester
Col Edwards Comd

Rev. H. W. Sylvester, Esq.
Washington
D. C. —17—
M. A. M. Oct 38 NY
Legal Am. Race

New York, May 8th 1850
Dear Sir
I received the letter that you sent to Mr Adams, the reason that I have not answered it before is because I have been endeavoring to find out the name of the company that my father Alexander Hidd belonged to but I have been unable. My mother Keziah Dunn Hidd administered on the sixth day of June, 1815, it was but a short time before that that my father died, he died and was buried on Governor's Island, he was a tall man thick set, blue eyes, and black hair & fair skin, you will find at the Pension Office where my Mother was granted a pension for five years for services my father rendered in the Revolution. I wish you would send me a copy of my mother's pension ticket, and also who my father enlisted under, and when, and for how long a time, we have never received any remuneration whatever for his services during the last war. He was He was on the Island at the time my father was buried and I can prove by good respectable witnesses that my mother told them that he did die there. Now I wish you to answer this as soon as possible and tell me what remuneration you will expect

for your services in procuring me my father's just dues. Please direct your letter 240 Second St. New York
I remain yours Respectfully
Phoebe Matilda Eastwood

Cyzah Ann Kidd
Daughter of Alex d Kidd.
W. York - at July 36
See letters to E. L. B. Brooks
22 Feb y 37 - Mar y 16 1838 - 4
Sept. 5 1838. — To the
Rev. H. O. Hoffman 5 Feb.
'38. To Soc. Mar 19 April '38. 4
25 June 1838
March 4 Vol 16 173
Nov. 1883 Mar

Rev  WIDOW, &c.  Rev
No. 20333 Corziah Ann Haddad wife of Alexander Haddad Surgt. Rev War
Act: July 1 st /38 Index: Vol. 14 Page 202
[Arrangement of 1870.]

J. V. L. Sawyer atty for Mr. Kidd March 17. 1838
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Alexander Kidd's case
1. It is proved by the declaration of Mrs. Kidd that Alexander Kidd enlisted at the commencement of the Revolution "for during the war" - and was a Sergeant. He
Andrew Wilson "knows" that he was a Sergeant during the whole war, in the "York Troops under Gen. James Clinton" - that he enlisted, & was in the regular service - and
Samuel C. Crawford confirms these facts - and all agree that he was discharged at Newburgh or New Windsor at the close of the war
2. As to the period of the marriage - It is fixed by the evidence of Thomas Wilson, in the month of Sep r or Oct r 1783 - &
3. Mrs. Eastwood's deposition proves that Mrs. Kidd has remained a widow since the death of her husband in 1815. -
The definitive Treaty of Peace was signed Sept r 3. 1783. and ratified by Congress some time after. The Proclamation of Congress to disband the Army directs that "that part of the Army which stood engaged to serve during the war and by several acts of Congress had been furloughed, should be absolutely discharged after the 3 d of November from said service." Being enlisted for during the war, Kidd's service was discharged under this proclamation; and "some portion of his military service was rendered after the date of the marriage."
The only difficulty, therefore, is that suggested in the following paragraph of Mr. Edwards' letter - "In view of a satisfactory investigation, it is indispensably necessary that the names of the officers under whom the service in question was rendered should be given." -
Mrs. Kidd's declaration indicates Maj. Van Dyke and Capt. Fenbrook as two officers under whom he served - she states that her husband served under the latter at the close of the war. - The other witnesses can only remember Gen. James Clinton, or in other words, that Kidd belonged to the regular service.
It is respectfully submitted, whether this is not a substantial compliance with the rule. The soldier himself must know all the officers under whom he served; and any discrepancy, misrecollection, or want of recollection would

raise a strong presumption against the fairness of the Claim. But neither his widow, nor other persons can possess this accurate knowledge, - especially at so late a period - and, therefore, should not be held to the same accuracy of recollection or particularity of statement. - Kidd, it seems, was a soldier to the last, and the carefulness inci- dent to military habits readily accounts for Mrs. Kidd's want, as she states, of " documentary evidence of her husband's service ." He was in almost all the great battles of the Revolution - and impressed with the meri- torious character of the claim, and with the belief, from a very attentive & close examination of the evidence, that it is calculated to satisfy the requisitions of the law - I would most respectfully request the Hon. Commission of Pea- sions to review the case, and his decision suspend- ing it.