Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 37,487, for William Thurman, Virginia

SERVICE
Thurman, William
NUMBER
S. 37,487.
CONTENTS

19131
Kentucky
William Thurman
of Washington Co in the state of Kentucky who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Philip Lee - of the regiment commanded by Colonel Marshall - in the Virginia line, for the term of two years
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence on the 13 of October 1823
Certificate of Pension issued the 11 th of Dec r 1823 and sent to the Hon J. P. Moore. 4 Reps
Arrears to 4th of Semi anl. all'ce ending 4 Mar: 1824 $37.93
$37.93
{ Revolutionary claim, Acts March 18, 1818, May 1, 1820. } 1 March 1823
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William Thurman
Virginian line
3 Regt Col Mercer
Febr'y 1776-2 yrs
Com: 19 May 1818
Found on Roll
Page 297
[Faint, illegible handwriting, likely bleed-through from the reverse side of the page]

Wanted Judges certificate of services rendered circumstances under seal of court. The signature of the Judge to be authenticated under seal of the Court. The residence of the applicant should be stated.

Commonwealth of Kentucky Washington County ss. May 19 th 1848
I Becht Remembered that on the 19 th day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty eight came William Thurman before me the undersigned Arthur E. Giffin, presiding judge of the Washington County Court and being first duly sworn on the holy evangelist of Almighty God, saith that in the month of February in the year 1776 he enlisted as a private soldier in the Company of Captain Philip Lee of the Third Virginia Regiment commanded by Colonel Mercer and Lieut Col Maddin in the American Revolutionary War on the Continental establishment that he remained a private soldier in the actual service of his Country for the space of two years and upwards, that the term of his enlistment having expired he received a discharge from his officers and in removing to the State of Kentucky from Virginia he there lost his discharge of no way stating no care of it he lost it and even does not believe it is now in existence, he states he was in the engagements at York Island; at White Plains; at Brandywine; at Germantown; at Trenton; at Princeton; he was also in several other skirmishes; during the aforesaid Revolutionary struggle; he states that from the fatigue and exposure he underwent during his enlistment he was brought on the Rheumatic Pains; from which he has never since been well he is now in the sixty second year of his age and infirm his circumstances in life are so much reduced that he stands in need of the assistance of his Country for a support He states that this affidavit is all the evidence in his power to offer on this subject; he prays for a pension under the law of Congress of the 18 th of March 1848  William Thurman Mark

I were to and subscribed before me the undersigned primary Judge of the Washington County Court the 19 th day of May 1878 — A. Gibbins

William Thurman
Schedule
1872 August
16,558
Sept 1870
Spencer
W.B.
not entitled
Hon. B. Hardin
House of Rep

District of Kentucky Washington County
On this 10 th day of July 1820 personally appeared in open Court, (being a Court of Record), for the said County William Sherman aged sixty four years resident in the County of Washington, and State aforesaid, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on his oath, declare, that he served in the revolutionary war, as follows: (knowing that he was enlisted sometime in the month of February 1776 in Capt. Philip Lee's Company, and in the 3 d Virginia Regiment, commanded by Col. Stearns ; that he has been in the following battles: (knowing that he was present at) York Island, White Plains, Germantown, Brandywine, &c. That he has never received any pension, but his pension certificate is N o 16,558.
And I do solemnly swear, that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18 th day of March 1818, and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner, disposed of any property or any part thereof with intent thereby to diminish it, or to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled "an act to provide for certain persons, engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary war," passed on the 18 th day of March 1818, that I have not, nor has any person for me in trust for me, any property, or securities, contracts, or debts due to me, nor have I any income, other than what is contained, in the schedule hereto annexed, and by me subscribed.
16,558

And I do further state, that the foregoing Schedule contains a correct statement of all my property (to wit) one mare, and two colts, two horses and two calves fourteen hogs, one old negro woman, and about three dollars in money. My last an option is that of a former that he has a wife about sixty four years old that he has living with him his wife's father entirely helpless
William Thurmon
State of Kentucky Washington Circuit Court
I John Hughes Jr Clerk of the Circuit Court for the Circuit aforesaid do hereby certify that on the 21st day of August Term 1828 of said Court the foregoing schedule and previous certificate was produced in open Court and the said William Thurmon making oath as required by law the same was duly received the Court valuing the property contained in the schedule to the sum of one hundred and eighty nine dollars fifty cents all which is certified to the Secretary of the Department of War
In Witness Whereof I have hereunto at my hand and affixed the seal of my said Circuit at my office in the town of Springfield this 21st day of December 1828 in the 51st year of the American Revolution
Jno Hughes Jr

May 12, 1939.
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BA-J/CC William Thurman S.37487 aw
Mr. J. Ross Thurman 1012 Penn Place, Tucson, Arizona.
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Benjamin, Philip, Richard and William Philip Thurman of Kentucky and Virginia.
There is no claim for pension on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of a Philip Thurman of Kentucky or Virginia, nor of a Richard or Benjamin Thurman. You are furnished herewith the Revolutionary War record of William Thurman as found in pension claim S.37487.
The date and place of birth of William Thurman and names of his parents are not shown.
William Thurman enlisted in Prince William County, Virginia February 14, 1776, served as private in Captain Philip Lee's company, Colonels Mercer's, George Weedon's, Marshall's and Heth's 3 rd Virginia Regiment, was in the battles of White Plains, York Island, Trenton, Princeton, Brandywine, and Germantown and in several skirmishes and was discharged in February 1778, at Valley Forge.
The soldier was allowed pension on his application executed May 19, 1818 at which time he was aged sixty-two years and a resident of Washington County, Kentucky.
In 1820, the soldier's family consisted of his wife aged about sixty-four years and her father. In 1823, William Thurman stated his children had all left him. The names of his wife and children and of his wife's father are not shown.

William Thurman died in the summer of 1824.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the exact date of death of William Thurman, you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:
William Thurman Certificate #19131 Issued December 11, 1823 Rate $8.00 per month Commenced October 13, 1823 Acts of March 18, 1818, May 1, 1820 and March 1, 1823. Kentucky Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

37 487 Rey INVALID.
1939 - May 12 - Dist to J Ross Thurman er
File No. 37 487 William Thurman Dr. Her Ward
Act: 18 th March 18 th
Index: - Vol. 2 , Page 30
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Kentucky.
William Thurman. Pirate Served 2 yrs from 1776. —
1 st Schedule dated 10 th July. 1820, 1 mare & 2 colts. — 2 cows and 2 calves. — 14 hogs. — an old negro woman & $3. in cash — Value by count — $289.50.
Schedule under Act 1 st March 1823. dated 13 th October 1823.
An old negro woman aged 30. — about 68 or 70 nearly blind 50 acres of lands in the 15. — Beekfork hills One mare. 20. — 2 cows 15. — 11 hogs. 11. — Cash $10. — $91. —
The difference in the amount of the value of Thurmans proper- ty as stated in his 1 st & last sche- dules is explained by the certifi- cate of Edmund Thurman (au- thorized by Hon. T. P. Moore to be entitled to credit) stating that the amount of property in 1 st schedule was valued in commonwealth papers, and amount of last schedule is specie. He also states that Thur-

man has not been worth $200 in specie or current money of the State of Kentucky since the commencement of his receiving a pension.
The Hon. T. P. Moore, in a letter of the 20 th Oct. 1824, states that Thurman died during the last Summer, and desires that his widow may receive the amount that would accrue from the time of his pension being suspended to the time of his death. The widow of Thurman is 67 years of age, and in a poor state of health.
The objection in this case, is, that by the regulations, no name can be placed on the pension list, after the death of the claimant. The same rule has been applied in cases suspended by the act of May 1820. Before the payment can be made, the name must be placed on the roll - The question then is, shall the rule not to place a dead man's name on the roll be dispensed with.
Hon. T. P. Moore, Reston Dist. Ky. R. 24. 1824. Com: Oct 12. 1823, Agent as above. E. H. Howard
133. 96 J. C. G.

19,020.
William Thurman Schedule
on roll Page 297.
Admitted
Hon. D. P. Moore, D.R.

District of Kentucky Washington County Subtract
On this 13 th day of October in the year of our Lord 1823 personally appeared William Thurman in open court (being a Court of Record for the County of Washington in the State of Kentucky) aged sixty four years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provisions made by the acts of Congress of the 18 th March 1818. and the 1 st May 1820. that he the said William Thurman entered for the term of two years in the month of February in the year 1776. in the State of Virginia in the Company commanded by Captain Philip Lee of the Regiment commanded first by Colonel Mercer and subsequently by Colonel Marshall and that said Regiment was known by the name of the third Virginia Continental establishment that he continued in the service of the United States as a soldier in said Regiment until the full term and term of two years the time of his enlistment when he was discharged from the said service at the Valley Forge (in February 1778) in Pennsylvania that he was in the Battles of York Island White Plains, Princeton, Monmouth, Brandywine and that he has no other evidence now in his power of said service. And in pursuance of the act of 1 st May 1820. I as solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18 th day of March 1818. and that I have not since that time by gift sale or in any other manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with an intent thereby to diminish the same as to bring myself within the provisions of the act of Congress entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War passed on the 18 th day of March 1818 and that I have not nor has any other person in trust for me any other property or securities contracts or debts due to me nor have I any other income than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed to wit
Schedule
  One Negro Woman aged about sixty five years $100.00   One Mare aged about thirty years 15.00   50 Acres of Land in the Redford hills 20.00   One Mule 15.00   Two Cows 11.00   Eleven sheep 
that he has about ten dollars and has no money owing to him that he is very so disabled with the Rheumatism as to be entirely

Inable to attend to business of any kind that he has a wife and attains the same number of years with himself a very highly estimable woman that his children have all left him - that he stands greatly in need of the assistance of his Country for a support
his William Thurman Mark
Kentucky ss
The county court began and held for the County of Washington on Monday the 13 th day of October 1823. This Schedule of William Thurman was exhibited in open court and made Oath to by the said William Thurman and the Court having Valued the Estate therein contained to the sum of Ninety One dollars the same was ordered to be sold
In testimony whereof John Kingfisher Clerk of said Court have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court this 15 th day of October A.D. 1823 in the 32 nd Year of the Commonwealth
John Kingfisher Clerk
I do certify that the Court above before which these proceedings were had is a Court of Record made such by act of assembly I do also certify that the applicant resides in the County in which the Court is located the Dec 14 23 J P Moore member of Congress

I do hereby certify that the first schedule of the property of William Thurman sent on to the war department was valued in Commonwealth paper, and the second or last was valued in Specie, which caused the difference in the amount of the two Schedules forwarded. On, I do also certify that William Thurman alluded to above has not been worth Two Hundred Dollars in Specie or current money of the State of Kentucky since the commencement of his receiving a pension, Exclusive of his pension and Proceeds. Given under my hand this 16 th day of October 1824 Edmund Furman
Washington Cy. Sc. This day Edmund Furman personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the peace for said County and made Oath to the truth of the above Certificate Given under my hand this 16 th day of October 1824 J. M c Calhoun J. P. No. 6.
I am personally acquainted with Edm and Furman & have no hesitation in stating that his oath is entitled to implicit credit given under my hand this 20 th of Oct 1824 J. P. Dillon Member of Congress

I am personally acquainted with John Calhoun - He was my town born to Kentucky & I know him to be a picture of the peer for said county
J P. Moore
Washington City
Dec. 4 1824

William Thurman
Ali case
DISTRICT OF

State of Kentucky Washington Circuit Court
DISTRICT OF Kentucky ss.
On this 28 th day of May 1819 before me, the subscriber, Judge of the Washington Circuit Court — for the said district, personally appeared William Thurman aged 63 years, resident in Washington County in the said district, who, being by me first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress, entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war:" That he, the said William Thurman enlisted for the term of Two years on the 15 th day of February in the year 1778 in Prince William County in the state of Virginia in the company commanded by Captain Philip Lee of the Regiment commanded by Colonel George Washington in the line of the state of Virginia on the Continental Establishment; that he continued to serve in the said corps, or in the service of the United States, until the year 1778 when he was discharged from service in Frederick County state of Maryland that he was in the battles of York Island, Prince Town, Brandywine German Town , that in fact he was discharged at the Valley Forge & his officers carried his discharge to Frederickstown and that he is in reduced circumstances, and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support; and that he has no other evidence now in his power of his said services.
Sworn to and declared before me, the day and year aforesaid.
William L. Kelly
I, William L. Kelly Judge, &c. as aforesaid, do certify that it appears, to my satisfaction, that the said William Thurman did serve in the revolutionary war, as stated in the preceding declaration, against the common enemy, for the term of nine months at one time, on the continental establishment; and I now transmit the proceedings and testimony taken and had before me, to the Secretary for the Department of War, pursuant to the directions of the aforementioned act of Con- gress. I am also satisfied that he needs the assistance of his country for support.
Sworn to this 28 th May 1819
William L. Kelly
Kentucky
By order of the honorable
William L. Kelly Judge of the Washington Circuit Court & the Clerk thereof have hereunto affixed the seal of said Court this 8 th day of Dec r 1819
John Hughes Mc

1 March 1823,
Ky.
Dear Friend,
Recd. Nov. 1824
Hon. T. P. Moore
Saragossa, Ky.
Ed. P. Morgan Mackin
cc: Nov. 6. 1824

Harrodsburg Oct 20. 1824
Dear Sir
Previous to my leaving Washington City you addressed a letter to me requiring an explanation of the cause of the difference between the amount of the two Schedules of property presented by William Thurman. I then called on you and explained the manner in which the different valuations had been made, & it seemed satisfactory. I did not therefore require Mr Thurman on my return to send on the explanation or a new Schedule before his suspension from the Pension List was known. He died. I have therefore deemed it an act of justice to him Madam to procure the desired testimony, & hope you will so explain the subject to the Secretary of War as to enable his  his  representative Thurman representative to receive the pittance due from the time of the suspension of his for pension to his death (which I believe is four or five months). I enclose this early that it may be acted on before Congress meets. With much respect
J. P. Moore

March 8, 1939
Pension department:
Did Philip Sherman (name may be given as William Philip Sherman of Ky (Louisville) receive pension for Rev. service?
Did Richard Sherman of Ky (Kentucky) receive pension for Revolutionary service?
Did Benjamin Sherman of Kentucky receive pension for such service?
It is my opinion that these men saw service in their native state of Virginia. I think they are brothers.
Thank you very much.
Very truly Yours
J. Ross Sherman 1012 Penn Place Tucson, Arizona
Lib. officials full statement of service all vital statistics, places of residence to prove descent from Rev. ancestor etc