Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 14707, for James Tinder, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER _____
Va.
Tinder, James
14707
boarded
CONTENTS

Death not on A.B.
7274 Kentucky
James Tinker Woodford Co in the State of Kentucky who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Gans of the Ky. commanded by Col. Stephens in the Virginia line for 16 months
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 53 Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 25 day of March 1833 and Dearth William H Wood Kentucky Frankfort Ken.
Arrears to the 14th of March 106.66 Semi-ann. allowance ending 4 Sept 26.66
$133.32
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Daniel Boyd Clerk, Book 6 Vol. 1 Page 29

State of Kentucky
Woodford County Set
On this third day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open Court before
Anthony Whiting  to  William  Barrett  James John Steele Samuel  William  Barrett  James William Woodridge Justice Constituting The County Court held in & for the County of Woodford now sitting, James Tinker a resident of Woodford County and State of Kentucky aged seventy years Who being first duly sworn according to doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the Benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated.
That he mustered into the service as Militia Soldier in the revolutionary army under Richard Graves in the State of Virginia or State establishment, in the County of Orange, under Captain Richard Graves, General Stephens Commanded the Brigade (the Colo name forgotten) that he entered the service a few days before Christmas in the year 1778, that he served two months which expired in the last of February 1779 that he was during the last two months aforesaid acting as the Substitute of George Warlow,

that during the service afore said Col Thomas Roe Commanded another Regiment from the same County. Thomas Barbour was the Major acting in his Regiment, that no Regular Soldiers were engaged in conjunction with the Brigade of Militia, during the war. that he was in no engagement during the time, that at the time he enlisted he lived in the State of Virginia Orange County, that he marched from Orange Court- house and Rendezvoused at Beale tavern in Orange County and marched to Fredericks Burgh Spotsylvania County, that was he remained at Fredericks- burgh all the winter & returned home in the as of 25 th February or 7 th of March 1779 that he has no documentary evidence by which to prove the above service of two months that he knows of no witness living by which he will be enabled to prove the above service.
That a few days after he returned home on the afore said term of duty, he was was again drafted in the 16 th year of his age for two months that he was Commanded by Captain Buckner that Col Emerson was the Col. Major Mewither also Commanded this Regiment. General Stephens Steele who Commanded the foregoing two months Commanded this Brigade, the time this term expired was the last of April, that he was in no engagement during this time of service, that he was was drafted in Orange County State of Virginia in which he resided, that he marched to

Fredericks Burgh in Spotsylvania, that there was no Continental regiments engaged with this Brigade of Gen Stephens, that he has no documentary evidence, that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service of this two months.
That on his return home in the last of April 1779 he met the troops who had been drafted in Spotsylvania County Virginia, that he substituted himself to serve a tour of two months more, in the place of some one now forgotten that the Company to which then belonged was Nelson Meriwether still commanded, General Stephens still commanded, this Brigade that he march from Fredericks Burgh to Bowling Green in the State of Virginia, that from thence they march to James Town on James River, in the State of Va. the time of service there expired that there was no Continental soldiers or regulars in this tour, that he has no documentary evidence by which to prove the this term of service. that he knows of no witness living by which he can prove the performance of the service,
That near the first of July 1779 he returned home in Orange County Va. that in few days after he returned home in July 1779 he substituted himself in the place of Wate Oliver that his Captain was by the name of Roland Thomas, the Col's name was Edmondson under General Stephens that he marched from Orange County to Richmond City from thence down James river to Williams =Burgh, that he was not during this tour in any

engagement, That no Continental or regular Soldiers were with the militia. That he was in no engagement during the last tour of two months that he returned home in the last of August or 1 st Sept 1779. that he has no documentary evidence nor does he know of any one by whom he can prove the service of the last tour of duty.
That he then in a few days went on an other tour of two months duty that he was commanded by Benj Johnson Capt and Col Mathews that he left the service service this time in cold weather in Oct 1779. that he was a substitute for Tho s Johnson that he marched from Orange to Richmond and then below Richmond on James river at Cabin Point, from thence to Petersburg in Va where they were discharged that there was no regular Soldiers connected with his regiment that they were in no engagement during the time, that he has no docu- mentary evidence that he knows of but one man by whom this can be prove this tour that is Benj Adams of Jepsonville County whether he is living or not he can not say but he was that he was one of his men.
That he returned home to Orange City as the weather was cold. that substituted himself for James Sanders for two months under Capt Tho s Chambers Col Taylor commanded the

that he marched from Orange to Albemarle County at the Barracks as a Guard to Burgoyne Prisoners that he was in no engagement that there was a few regular Soldiers but By whom Commanded he does not know that he Continued two months more which took all the winter in the Service at the same place & for the same purpose but as the Substitute of James Sanders under Capt Burley the same Col, that he has no documentary evidence nor does he know of a single witness by whom he can prove the service of the four last months,
That when he returned home and remained there in Orange County Va for some time, that in 1781 he can not recollect the time, he served two two months under Capt George Maud  Johnson and Col Mathews as the substitute of Tho s Johnson that he marched to Richmond where our Regiment joined Gen l Lafayette & we then went down James River to Williamsburg he then retreated to Culpeper County about the time Manchester was burned, thence through Orange  then passing before Lord Cornwallis, that the American army recruited and then then we pressed on them and they retreated below Richmond that he was in

in no engagement, that in said Service of two months he served with John Stephens whose deposition is hereto attached and is the only evidence that he knows by which he can prove the service, that Near Williamsburgh he was discharged.
That he was in one more tour of duty of two months at the Siege of York Capt Robert Stubblefield was his captain General Lafayette was the Genl. Melick was the Major that not recollected This is the only Battle in which he was engaged. that Genl Morgan was a regular officer General Wayne was also a regular officer. That he has no documentary evidence nor does he know of any one living by which he can prove the the fulfillment of the last four of duty except that he was not discharged if he was living in South Carolina He hereby relinquishes every other Claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and that his name is not on the pension Roll of any State Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
James Tindal
(S)

Questions Required to be put to the applicant by the Secretary of the war department, to be done by the Court
Question Where, and in what year, were you Born?
ans I was born in Spotsylvania County State of Virginia in 1763
By same Have you any record of your age and if so where is it?
ans I have it at home in my possession
By same Where were you living when called into service, where have you lived since the revolutionary war, and where do you now live
ans I lived in Orange County State of Virginia, I moved from Orange County Va to Woodford County Kentucky where I now reside  years ago except two years I lived in Fayette County Ky,
By same How were you called into service were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a Substitute
Ans I was a Substitute when I first went into service for two months, after that time I was for the next two months drafted, the remaining six months I was a Substitute for the various persons above named, in my declaration,

By Same State the names of some of the regular Groups with officers who were with the troops where you served such Continental & Militia Regiments as you can recollect and the General Circumstances of your own Service.
and I recollect General Wayne General Morgan General Lafayette & Washington at the Siege of York I recollect of no other regular officers Commanding at any time but at the Siege of York in my last tour of duty, when I was serving under Col Mathews in the 7 th tour of my duty I know there was other Militia Regiments who were commanded by persons under by Gen d Lafayette but who they were I can not positively say by think one Regiment was commanded by Col Murreither when we  they were retreating from Williams Burgh to Culpepper, County under Gen d Lafayette called Lafayette Running Tour. I am not so certain whether the Tours of duty I performed were in 1779 or in 1780 but am certain that I served the number of Tours Six of which were in regular succession. the others just before the close of the war or Siege of York, for all my Tours of duty served as a substitute or as a drafted soldier I received nothing but com-

linental money $50 of which I paid for a knife and the same for my breakfast,
By same
Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it.
Ans I have no recollection of ever I received a discharge.
By same
State the names of persons to whom you are known in your neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the revolution, and Major Harmon Bowman Samuel Berry Isaac Croutcher James Right.
George Blackburn the present parson of the Church in the neighborhood, to which I belong, on the day of making the declaration Bowman Berry & Right & Blackburn were absent & therefore say William Black Blackburn & Nelly Fleming Isaac Croutcher George Blackburn
And we, George Blackburn a Clergyman living residing in the County of Woodford and State of Kentucky, and Harmon Bowman Samuel William Black Blackburn & Nelly Fleming Berry  Isaac Croutcher & James Right residing in the aforesaid County & State hereby certify that we are well acquainted with James Linder who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be 70 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution,

and that we Concur in that opinion Signed and subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Isaac Cretcher Geo. Blackburn Wm Blackburn Hester C. Harney
And the said Court do hereby certify  certify declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the inter- rogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states, And it further appears the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Isaac Cretcher  George Blackburn , who has signed the preceding Certificate, is a clergyman resident in the County of Woodford Ky and that William B. Blackburn  Isaac Blackburn  Isaac William B. Blackburn and Isaac Blackburn Isaac Blackburn who have also signed the same are residents in the County of Woodford, and are credible persons and their statements are entitled to credit
I John McKinney Clerk of the Court County Court of Woodford do hereby certify of that the foregoing contains the original pro- ceedings of the Court in the matter of the ap- plication of James Tinker for a pension

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of my office this day year after said the John M. Kinney & Co.

July 15, 1936.
Mr. George H. S. King 1301 Prince Edward Street Fredericksburg, Virginia.
BA-J/ILL James Tinder S. 14707
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter of May 26, 1936, which has been referred to this office by the War Department regarding Revolutionary War soldiers, James and Anthony Tinder, of Virginia.
The record of James Tinder is furnished you herein as found in claim for pension, S. 14707, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War. The name of Anthony Tinder is not shown in this claim, nor is there a claim for pension on file based upon service in that war of an Anthony Tinder.
James Tinder was born in the year 1763, in Spotsylvania County, Virginia; the exact date of his birth and the names of his parents were not given.
While a resident of Orange County, Virginia, he enlisted a few days before Christmas 1778, served on tours of two months each as a private in the Virginia troops until after the Siege of Yorktown, amounting in all to sixteen months, under Captains Richard Graves, Buckner, Nelson, Roland Thomas, Chambers, Burley, George Waugh and Robert Stubblefield, Major Merriwether, and Colonels Emerson, Taylor, Edmonson, and Mathews; he was in the battle of Yorktown with the troops under Marquis de Lafayette in his last tour.
The soldier moved from Orange County, Virginia, to Woodford County, Kentucky.
James Tinder was allowed pension on his application executed September 3, 1832, at which time he resided in Woodford County, Kentucky. He had resided in that county ever since moving from Virginia with the exception of two years, during which he lived in Fayette County, Ken-
tucky. James Tinder made no reference to wife or children at the time he made application for pension.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid, and, possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should apply to The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following:
James Tinder Certificate #7274 Issued March 25, 1833 Rate $53.33 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831. Act of June 7, 1832. Kentucky Agency.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

1936 - July 15 - Hist. to George H. B. King - Phil.
Revised
14707 INVALID.
File No. 14707
James Tinker Priv. Rev. war
Act: June 4th p 32.
Index:—Vol. 1, Page 396
[Arrangement of 1870.]

(COPY) WAR DEPARTMENT THE ADJUTANT GENERAL'S OFFICE WASHINGTON
A. G. 201 Tinder, James (5-26-36) ORD
CL/RL
June 19, 1936.
Mr. George H. S. King, 1301 Prince Edward Street, Fredericksburg, Virginia.
Dear Sir:
I have your recent letter in which you request any information of genealogical interest which may be contained in the Revolutionary pension papers of James Tinder (or Tindar) of Woodford County, Kentucky, stating that he was a private in the Virginia line; you also inquire if the name Anthony Tinder or Orange County, Virginia, is mentioned anywhere in the papers.
The War Department has no jurisdiction in pension matters, therefore has no pension records in its possession. As the Veterans Administration, Washington, D. C., takes care of all pension claims and has the records in its possession, I am transmitting your letter to that office for consideration and reply.
Very truly yours,
E. T. CONLEY Major General, The Adjutant General, By

Drawn July 9
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1301 Prince Edward Street, Fredericksburg, Virginia, 26 May 1936.
The Veterans Administrations, Old Record Division, War Department, Washington, D.C.
NA & L
Gentlemen:
I should like for you to send me any information of genealogical interest which may be contained in the Revolutionary pension papers of JAMES TINDER (TINDAR) of Woodford county, Ky. He was a private in the Virginia line in the Revolutionary War.
Is the name Anthony Tinder of Orange county, Va. mentioned anywhere in these papers? Thanking you, I am
Very truly yours,
George H.S. King George H.S. King
NAVY DEPARTMENT SECY'S OFFICE - RECORD DIV.
RECEIVED
OP. J. A. G. O. G. APPT. N.B.O.
ROSEN GEORGE A. SEC. N.P.O. SUP.
Department
Received A. G. O. JUN 4 1936
MAY 29 1936

In the Case of Sharewood Maddox an ap- plicant, I sent on a deposition Certified by Jas McConnell as a justice of the peace. In the Certificate of seal attached to the deposition of John Stephens. I have got the Seal and certificate of the clerk that McConnell was a justice, of Woodford
The department will please inform me the fate of this case at
Frankfort
Wm. Lloyd

Stephens's 6990.
Affidavit
from 1778 pi= date 16 months, $53. \frac{33}{100} .
John Stephens

State of Kentucky Woodford County S th
I Herman Bowman a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County do hereby certify that James Tindon of said County this day appeared before me and produced before me John Stephens a Credible Witness who being by me Suborn and duly charged to speak the truth and the whole truth touching the Services of the said James Tindon as a Soldier in the War of the Revolution As the said Witness deposeth and saith. That the deponent and said James Tindon both resided in Orange County in the State of Virginia during the revolutionary War and the said Witness saith that in the summer of the year 1781, that he served a Militia tour of duty for two months and that the said Tindon the person now before me also served the same tour of two months as a Soldier in the Militia Service and that the said Tindon and said Witness served the said tour in a Company of Militia commanded by Capt George Waugh and with many others we said Capt Waugh's Company joined General the Marquis De La Fayette at Richmond in Virginia about two days before Manchester was burnt by the enemy, this tour was called the Marquis's running tour and the said Witness says the said tour of two months was served out by the said James Tindon to his own personal knowledge the said Witness saith he is now in his seventy eighth year of his age he says they  was confirmed and said Genl La Fayette the after

joining him as aforesaid till said two months said time expired and the said Witness said Tinker were discharged at Williamsburgh in Virg a when said Capt Wright & Company were discharged
Subscribed to by said Witness this 6th day August 1832
John Stephens
Sworn to before me as above stated and subscribed before me this 6th day of August 1832
Herman Bowman
Commonwealth of Kentucky Woodford County Set I John M Kinney Clerk of the County Court for said County aforesaid do certify that Herman Bowman Esq r before me whom the foregoing deposition appears to have been taken is one of the Common wealths Justices of the peace in and for the County aforesaid duly commissioned and qualified as such and also that James M c Connell Esq r is one of the Commonwealths Justices of the peace for said County duly commissioned and qualified as such and that their official acts are entitled to full faith and credit either in or out of this State
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my office at Versailles this 3 rd day of September 1832 and in the 41 st Year of the Commonwealth John M Kinney Clerk

Commonwealth of Kentucky Woodford County set
I. John McKinney Jr. clerk of the County Court for the County aforesaid (at the request of Wright Dodd) do hereby again certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the Court in the matter of application of James Dinder for a pension; and also that Herman Bonmar Esq. whose name is annexed to the foregoing Certificate is a Justice of the peace in and for the County of Woodford and that the Court of which he is a member is a Court of Record, and that the signature of H. Bonmar is his genuine signature —
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the Seal of my office at Versailles this 16. day of January 1833. and in the 41. Year of the Commonwealth
John McKinney Jr. Clerk