Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 6417, for Thomas Logue, Pennsylvania

SERVICE
NUMBER
Penn.
Logue Thomas
R 6417
CONTENTS

No. 24.428. Declaration.
and Thirty Three Dane Converse
John M. Butcher Washington D.C.

State of Illinois - Mowroe County } ss On this fourth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty three Personally appeared before Edward, T. Morgan and Selby Clarke Judges of the County Commissioners Court of Monroe County State of Illinois. now sitting -
Thomas Logue, a resident of said County of Monroe and State of Illinois - Aged sixty nine years, who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. That he enlisted in the army of the United States in the year 1780 - on the 3 rd or 4 th day of May - with Captain Butler as a substitute for Edward Laferty, of Captain Butlers Company of Colo. Gibson's Regiment. 1 st Lieutenants name was - Butler Joseph Spear (who was, killed by a fall from a horse)
He resided near the Town of Carlisle, Cumber- land County State of Pennsylvania - when he enlisted, and received his discharge at Harpers Ferry on the Potomac River, the latter part of June 1781. - Questions by the Court
1 st Where and in What year were you born Ans. I was born in Chester County Pennsylvan- nia July 12 th 1764.
2 Have you a Record of your age & if so where is it and I have none that I know of
3 rd Where were you living when called into service where have you lived since the Revolutionary war and where do you now live - Answer - I was living in Cumberland County near

the Town of Carlisle in Pennsylvania when I enlisted - and for 15 Years or more after, - when I went to Kentucky - I remained in that State about seven years - I returned to Pennsylvania & remained there 8 or 9 Years - from there to Indiana, from there to Ohio where I remained 5 or 6 Years - from there to this State in the year 1810 - where I have remained ever since & mostly in this County. I enlisted as a Substitute 4 th How were you called into service - were you drafted - did you volunteer or were you a substitute. - And if a substitute for whom? Ans. I enlisted as a substitute for Edward Loferty 5 th State the name of some of the Regular Officers who were with the Troops where you served such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect. and the general circumstances of your services.
Ans. Colo Gibson had command of the Regiment in which I served. Captain Butler commanded the Company in which I served - (Lieutenant Butler (was a Cousin of the Captain) - and ensign Joseph Spear (was killed by fall from a horse - 4 or 5 months after I joined the Company) - we remained 3 or 4 weeks at Carlisle, and marched to Har- pers Ferry - where we remained - 7 or 8 days from there to Hillsborough in North Carolina where we remained three or four weeks - to a place  from there called the Cowpens where we remained all Winter - From there - to within a few miles of Guilford - when we were met by Captain Morgan who gave information that the Battle was over & we might return - & we did return to Harper's Ferry

6 th — did you ever receive a discharge from the service and if so by whom was it given and what has become of it — Ans. I received a discharge signed by the Col o George Gibson. I have lost it long since — as I considered it of no value.
State the name of persons to whom you are acquainted in your present neighborhood & who can testify as to your character for veracity & their belief of your services as a soldier of the revolution. Ans Gen l James B. Moore Rev d Enoch Moore Rev d Isaiah Lemmon Mr s Jacob Clark Mr s John Ryan — I have no witness whose testimony I can obtain to prove this declaration. He hereby relinquishes every claim to a pension or an annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of any Agency in any state.
Thomas Logue
Sworn to & subscribed in open Court the day & year aforesaid. We Josiah Lemmon a Clergyman of the Baptist denomination, residing in Fountain Township — Monroe County — and Jacob Clark residing in the same Township and County hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Thomas Logue who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be sixty nine years of age, that he is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn to & subscribed in open Court the day & year aforesaid
Josiah Lemmon Jacob Clark

And the said Court do hereby declare their Opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War department that the above named Applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states, and the Court further certifies that it appears to them, that Josiah Lemen who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman, resident in the Fountain Township in said County and that Jacob Clark who has also signed the same, is a resident of the same Township and County and is a Credible person and that their statement is intitled to credit
E. S. Morgan
Jacob Clark
Daniel Converse Clerk of the Court of County Com- -missioners, do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains, the Original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Thomas Logue for a Pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office this fourth day of June in the year of our Lord one Thousand eight hundred and thirty three
Daniel Converse
John McWhorter Washington D.C.
Rev. Logue, 24.428. Pension.

allusion reprint 24. Mar. 1834
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Pension Bureau Washington D.C.

allusion reprinted 24. Mar. 1834
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Pension Bureau Washington D.C.

Officers Returned May 9/1834.
Waterloo Ia Apr 23
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War Department.
Pension Bureau Washington City D.C.
State of

State of Illinois ) Monroe County ) On this 23 rd day of April in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and thirty four personally came and appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the Peace for said County. Thomas Logue, who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath, make the following Addition to his former declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by Act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. - That he Enlisted at Carlisle Penn sylvania as set forth in his declaration. Colonel Gibson (he thinks his name was George) had command of that Garrison at that time - and March with the Troops he thinks as far as the river ferry - where Captain Butlers Company with him or two other Companies were transferred to Col. John Gibsons Regiment of Infantry, in whose Regiment he remained with Captain Butlers Company until discharged. he saw the same Colonel Gibson at Vincennes Indiana about the year 1831 or 1832 - and in conversation relating to the campaign he asked me if I had kept my discharge and then answered in the negative he observed that it might be of service to me at some future time being a substitute he thinks his name might not have been regular transferred on the pay Rolls for he never received any pay
Thomas Logue Sworn to and subscribed before me this 23 rd day of April A.D. 1834
David Converse J.P.

State of Illinois - } Monroe County } I The Undersigned clerk of the County Commissioners Court of Monroe County do certify that Daniel Converse before whom the within declaration was made and sworn to is and was at the date thereof a Justice of the Peace for said County, duly commissioned and sworn and due faith and Credit is due and ought to be given to all his Official Acts as such.
In Witness whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court at Waterloo this 23 rd day of April A D 1834
Daniel Converse

Declaration.
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7 th of June 1832. —
State of Illinois
Monroe County } ss
— On this sixth day of March A.D. 1834. Personally came and appeared before the County Commissioners Court of the County of Monroe and State of Illinois. Thomas Logue aged sixty nine years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the Act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year — A.D. 1780. with Captain Butler and served in a Regiment of the Pennsylvania line. (The N o of the Regiment he does not recollect.) Under the following named Officers — to wit: Colonel ————— Gibsons Regiment — Majors names he does not recollect — Captain Butler first Lieutenant Butler. Cousin to the Captain, and Ensign Spear (the Ensign was killed by a fall from a horse, and the vacancy filled by a man from Carlisle — whose name he does not recollect). He resided in Cumberland County near Carlisle in the State of Pennsylvania when he enlisted on the 3 rd or 4 th day of May in the year A.D. 1780. as a substitute for Edward Safety we remained three or four weeks at Carlisle then marched to Harpers Ferry where we remained 7 or 8. days. from there we marched to Hillsborough North Carolina where we remained 3 or 4 weeks from there to a place called the Cowpens where we remained all winter from there to within a few miles of Guilford when we were met by Captain Morgan and his Company who informed us that the Battle was over and we might return and we did return to Harpers Ferry where I received a discharge in the latter part of June. A.D. 1781. signed by Colonel Gibson having served at least One year One Month and

twenty days - which was the only enlistment I ever served under. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a Pension or Annuity except the present. - and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State. —
Sworn to and subscribed } the day and year aforesaid }
Thomas his  X Logue mark
And the said Court do hereby declare their Opinion that the above named Applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states. Edward T. Morgan
Alipio Benito
Felix Clark
Daniel Converse Clerk of the Court of County Commissioners - do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the Original Proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the Application of Thomas Logue for a Pension -
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office this sixth day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty four. —
Daniel Converse

State of Illinois } Monroe County } ss I Thomas Logue do hereby Revoke all and every Power of Attorney heretofore given to Messrs. H. S. Hardy or John M c Cutcheon relative to My Pension — In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & Seal this 6 th day of March A.D. 1834
Thomas his Logue mark
This day came before the undersigned Justice of the peace for said County Thomas Logue and acknowledged signing & sealing the above as his voluntary Act for the purposes therein men- tioned. Witness my hand & Seal this 6 th day of March A.D. 1834
Daniel Converse J.P.

24 428
Thomas Logue Illinois
Clairmont Waterloo Illinois

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: } ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.              
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
JAMES L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d), with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deponeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [j] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

Act 7 June 1832
Suspended
See letter 25 th March 1834
To Thomas Logue Waterloo Illinois - 6417
1875 Jan'y 13
that was claim in support of it - but his own declaration
Hon G.C. McKee was rejected according

_____ Ex'r.
INVALID.
Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
6.417. REJECTED
P. O. _____
Thomas Logue
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____