Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 20321, for Jacob Laar, Pennsylvania

SERVICE
NUMBER
Pen
5 Loar, Jacob
R. 20321
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For the purpose of obtaining the benefit of "An Act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the army of the revolution" approved on the 15th of May 1828. I Jacob Laar of Goozlana in the County of Livingston in the State of New York do hereby declare that I enlisted in the Continental line of the army of the revolution in Captain John Dreyfuss's company in Colonel Richard Hampton's Regiment (eleventh regiment of the Pennsylvania line). that the terms of his enlistment were that he should serve in said service for three years or during the war - that he continued in its service for five years and until a short time previous to the termination of the war when he was regularly discharged and was then a private in Captain Elias Steele's Company in Colonel Richard Hampton's Regiment. The eleventh regiment had been so much diminished in numbers that it was united with the tenth regiment of the Pennsylvania line to which Regiment Colonel Hampton was also transferred. And I further declare that I was not on the fifteenth day of March 1828 on the pension list of the United States. And I further declare that I lost my discharge soon after I obtained the same.  Jacob Laar mark
Before me Ogden M. Milley a justice of the peace in the County of Livingston in the State of New York personally appeared this day John Calmon and Albert Becker of the said County, who did severally make oath that Jacob Laar by whom the foregoing declaration was subscribed is generally reputed and believed to have been a soldier in the army of the revolution in manner as therein stated.
Witness my hand this nineteenth day of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty eight.  Ogden M. Milley, J.P.
I Levi Hovey Clerk of the Court of the County of Livingston in the State of New York do certify that Ogden M. Milley before whom the foregoing affidavits were sworn was at the time a justice of the peace and duly empowered to administer oaths.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court this nineteenth day of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty eight.
Levi Hovey

State of New York
County of Livingston } on this seventh day of October 1850, personally appeared before the Court of the County of Livingston Polly Warren a resident of the town of Groveland County of Livingston and State aforesaid, aged fifty-seven years and upwards, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed July 4, 1838, entitled "an act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows." Deponent states that she is a widow of Jacob Larr, who was a soldier in the war of the rebellion a private and enlisted into the service with Captain John Douglass, Seven miles South of Philadelphia at a place called Crossbridge Enlisted for three years served better than four years. Deponent says she heard her father say he enlisted in 1777, this is to the best of Deponent's knowledge, Received twenty Dollars Bounty or pay, after he enlisted went first to Hampton then into New Jersey wintered there, was in Brimfieldown Battle, under General Wayne - was in the Battle of Brandywine the same year next at Paoli - was at Germantown Battle - was at Monmouth Battle where General Washington commanded - wintered two years at Mount Pleasant, was at a skirmish at Discawaway six miles from Brunswick, next winter lay within three miles of Morrisburg New Jersey - In seventeen hundred eighty was at Hoosier Island and there plundered a great British Store of Clothing, then went and stayed sometime at Morristown - The Booty was to be divided but all that Jacob Larr got was a blanket with which he covered his nakedness being all but naked at the same time - But when the French joined the American Army, the times seemed a little better some of the soldiers that had enlisted for three years had served their time out asked for a Discharge, were punished by some of the officers, served better than four years then got my discharge and lost it coming from the State of Pennsylvania to the State of New York. Deponent further says that she has heard her said father Jacob Larr make the foregoing statement several times in his lifetime, and also have heard him say that he served under the following officers vizt. Lieutenant Colonel Samuel Hays Company tenth Pennsylvania Regiment in the service of the United States. Colonel Richard Hamilton, William Feltman -

Lieutenant and General Wayne as before mentioned. Deponent further states that she cannot remember the time her said father left the service from the information she got from his conversation that she often heard him say he served better than four years in the Revolution war. But only enlisted for three years. Deponent further says that her said father made application for a pension under the act of the fifteenth of May 1828. But his claim was not admitted, the objection he did not serve to the end of the war. Deponent further declares that she heard her father and mother both say that they were married in the State of Pennsylvania near a place called Freeland fort, I think in Lackawanna county by a Lutheran minister as they stated him my mother had a certificate of her marriage and lost it at the same time my father lost his discharge the bulk told me she had all the papers they passed in an old chest and when they were on Chemung River coming to the State of New York, the chest by some accident was thrown off the boat and all was lost never got again. My father and mother had thirteen children, six are dead, and seven living, my oldest sister Catharine is sixty-five years of age last spring the day or month I do not remember, she now lives in the State of Indiana. My Brother Benjamin is sixty-three years of age this October I do not know the day, he lives in Michigan Lenawee county town of Woodstock. I myself Billy Wensey my age is fifty-seven years the seventh day of September last past. Jacob my brother is fifty-five the twelfth day of October this present month he lives in Lenawee county town of Woodstock Michigan, my mother sister Betsey Moyer is fifty-three years of age, she lives in State of Michigan at a place called white pigeon, my sister Sally Moyer is fifty-one years of age, she lives in Michigan white pigeon. My Brother William is forty-four years of age last April I do not remember the day of the month he was born, these are all the children now living, my father and mother was not married prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place prior to January, 1794 at the time and place before stated, that is my sister Catharine was the first child my mother had after she was married she was one year married when Catharine was born, my father and mother moved from Pennsylvania forty-six years since to the county of Livingston State of New York to Geneseo first five years then to Groveland. Deponent further states that her mother's name before she was married was Catharine Coatsler, this Deponent further states that her said father Jacob Laar died at the town of Groveland Livingston

County, and State of New York on the Eighteenth day of April 1837, and left her said mother Catharine Laar a widow who never married again. Deponent further states that her said mother Catharine Laar died on the Sixteenth day of April 1845, at the town of Groveland Livingston County and State of New York. Deponent further states that this application is made with a view to obtain the pension due her said father at his death from the fourth of March 1831, to the Eighteenth of March 1837. Deponent further claims in this application the pension due her said mother from March fourth 1836, to the sixteenth day of April 1845, and further. This Deponent says not
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written before me a Judge in open Court. Polly Wonsy
Geo. Lord County Judge of Livingston County -
State of New York County of Livingston ss. I, General D. Root Clerk of the Courts of the County of Livingston holden at Geneseo in and for said County of Livingston do hereby certify that Satisfactory Evidence has been Exhibited to said Court, that Jacob Laar who is named in the foregoing Declaration and who was a soldier in the war of the Revolution and whose name is on the Rolls at the War Department and served under the officers that is named in the foregoing Declaration, that the said Jacob Laar died at the town of Groveland Livingston County and State of New York on the 18 th day of April 1837 and left a widow whose name was Catharine Laar and that the said Catharine widow of Jacob Laar died at the town County and State above mentioned on 16 th day of April 1845, and left seven children surviving her whose names are all inserted in the foregoing Declaration with each of their Residences. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my Seal of Office, at Geneseo this 11 th day of October 1850.
(Geo. Lord)
J. D. Root. Clerk of the Co.

State of New York Livingston County Clerk's Office } I hereby certify that Scott Lord Esqr. before whom the foregoing affidavit was taken subscribed was at the time the same bears date & still is County Judge of said County duly elected and qualified & authorized to take the same & that I am well acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe that the signature subscribed thereto is his genuine signature. In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of said County & of the County Court this 12 th day of Oct 1850 H. D. Root Clerk of said County & of the Courts thereof.

April 3, 1940.
Mrs. Lester Reynolds Keyser West Virginia.
BA-J/ILL Jacob Laar R. 20321
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Jacob Loar and George Adam Eckhart, your ancestors, who were early settlers of York County, Pennsylvania. You list various spellings of both surnames.
A search of the Revolutionary War records of this office has been made and no claim for pension or bounty land found which was made to the United States based upon service of any George Eckhart, under any spelling of that surname. The record has been found of only one Jacob Laar or Loar-similar spellings all used in the search of records. The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in that claim-R. 20321, and may aid you in your research.
Jacob Laar or Loar enlisted near North Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, served as private in Captain John Douglas' company, Colonel Richard Humpton's 11th Pennsylvania regiment, and in Captain Steele's company, Colonel Richard Humpton's Pennsylvania regiment (then designated the 10th), was in the battles of Princeton, Paoli, Brandywine, Germantown and Monmouth, was in the attack of John's Island and was discharged a short time before the termination of the war, having served between four and five years.
About the year 1794, this soldier moved from Pennsylvania to Geneseo, Livingston County, New York, resided there about five years, then moved to Groveland in that same county.
He applied for pension on account of his service in the Revolutionary War September 19, 1828. He resided then in Groveland,

Livingston County, New York. His claim was not allowed because the Act of Congress under which he applied provided only for those who served until the close of the war in 1783.
Jacob Laar or Loar died April 18, 1837 in Groveland, New York. His age was not given, nor the names of his parents and place of his birth.
He married in the spring of 1784, at "Freeland's Fort", in Pennsylvania, Catharine Cratser; her age was not given, nor the names of her parents. They were married by a Lutheran Minister.
Catharine Laar or Loar, this soldier's widow, died April 16, 1845, in Groveland, New York.
This soldier and his wife, Catharine, had thirteen children, seven of whom were living in 1850. Their names and residences were given in 1850 as follow: Catharine, their first child, born in the spring of 1785, residing in Indiana; Benjamin, born in October 1787, residing in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan; Polly Wonsey, born September 7, 1793, residing in Groveland, New York; Jacob, born October 12, 1795, residing in Woodstock, Michigan; Betsey Moyer and Sall Moyer, aged fifty-three and fifty-one years, respectively, both residing in White Pigeon, Michigan; William, born in April 1806, his residence not given. There are no further data regarding any of these children cited above; the names of the other children were not given.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

No 14.219
Catharine Loar Beck widow of Jacob.
New York
Act 7. July - 1838
Mrs Polly Wronsey Jan 7 1837 Hon George Hastings May 28/37
1838

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
6395
P. O.
Catharine Soar
Service:
with David Soar
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.

Rejected.
Ex'r. OLD WAR.
File No. 20321
Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
Jacob Laar Br Capt Douglass 7th Line
Died at _____
REJECTED
other claim.
_____, 187 .
Clerk.
Application filed: _____, 18 .
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
Rejected Oct 1878

1934 - Jan. 24 - Visit to Miss Helen Marshall - 1934 - Dec. 10 - Visit to Mrs. Emma Lou Gaddis - ILL 1935 - Sept. 4 - Mrs. Emma L. Gaddis advised regarding other sources of information. - ILL 1940 - April 3 - Visit to Mrs. Lester Reynolds - ILL
Date.
Ex'r.

September 4, 1935.
Mrs. Emma Loar Gaddis Manson, Iowa.
BA-J/ILL Jacob Lear R. 20321 Miss French -
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you state that the record of Jacob Lear (R. 20321) which was furnished you December 10, 1934, was not that of your ancestor, Jacob Lear, and that you now desire the Revolutionary War record of John Stevens or Stephens.
The land which you state was owned by Jacob Lear in Maryland would not have been granted by the United States. It is suggested that you apply to The Adjutant General of the State of Maryland, Annapolis, Maryland, for information in regard to that land. No other Jacob Lear was found on the Revolutionary War pension records.
There is no claims for pension on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of a John Stevens, or Stephens as described by you. It is further suggested that information in regard to the military service of those two soldiers might be obtained from The Adjutant General, War Department, this city, who is custodian of United States military records.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

December 10, 1934.
Mrs. Emma Loar Gaddis
Manson, Iowa.
RA-J/ILL Jacob Lear R. 20321
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information regarding your ancestors, Jacob Loar and George Adam Echert (both surnames variously spelled), soldiers of the Revolutionary War.
A search of the Revolutionary War records has been made and there is no claim for pension or bounty land on file which has been made to the United States based upon service of any George, or Adam Echert; similar spellings of the surname have been used in this search. The record of only one Jacob Lear has been found, under any spelling of that surname; his record is given herein as found in the papers on file in pension claim, R. 20321, based upon his Revolutionary War service.
Jacob Lear, or Loar, enlisted a short distance from North Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, served as private in Captain John Douglas' company, Colonel Richard Humpton's 11 th Pennsylvania regiment, and in Captain Steele's company, Colonel Richard Humpton's Pennsylvania regiment, then designated the 10 th , was in the battles of Princeton, Paoli, Brandywine, Germantown and Monmouth, was in the attack of John's Island and was discharged a short time before the termination of the war, having served between four and five years.
About the year 1794, the soldier moved from Pennsylvania to Geneseo, Livingston County, New York, where he resided about five years, then moved to Groveland in the same county.
He applied for pension September 19, 1828, at which time he resided in said Groveland, New York. His claim was not allowed because

the Act of Congress under which he applied provided only for those who served until the close of the war in 1883.
Jacob Laar, or Loar, died April 18, 1837, in Groveland, New York. His age at the time of his enlistment, at the time of his application for pension, or at the time of his death are not stated, nor is the place of his birth shown.
He married in the spring of 1784, at a place called "Freeland Fort", in Pennsylvania, Catharine Gratser; the ceremony was performed by a Lutheran minister. The age, place of birth, or names of the parents of said Catharine are not shown.
Catharine Laar, or Loar, the soldier's widow, died April 16, 1845, in Groveland, New York.
The soldier and his wife, Catharine, had thirteen children, seven of whom were living in 1850. Their names, ages and residences at that time are shown as follows: Catharine, the first child, born in the spring of 1785, residing in Indiana; Benjamin, born in October 1787, residing in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan; Polly Wonsey, born September 7, 1793, residing in Groveland, New York; Jacob, born October 12, 1795, residing in Woodstock, Michigan; Betsey Moyer and Sally Moyer, aged fifty-three and fifty-one years respectively, both residing in White Pigeon, Michigan; William, born in April 1806, his residence not shown. There are no further data relative to any of these children, and the names of the other children are not shown.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

January 25, 1934.
Miss Helen H. Marshall 445 Ashland Avenue Buffalo, New York.
BA-J/ILL Jacob Laar R. 20321
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to the Revolutionary War record of Jacob Laar, whose widow was Catherine Laar.
The record of Jacob Laar, or Loar, is furnished herein as shown in the papers on file in pension claim, R. 20321, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.
Jacob Laar enlisted a short distance from North Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, served as private in Captain John Douglas' company, Colonel Richard Humpton's 11 th Pennsylvania regiment, and in Captain Steele's company, Colonel Richard Humpton's Pennsylvania regiment, then designated the 10 th , was in the battles of Princeton, Paoli, Brandywine, Germantown and Monmouth, was in the attack on John's Island and was discharged a short time before the termination of the war, having served between four and five years.
About the year 1794, the soldier moved from Pennsylvania to Genesee, Livingston County, New York, where he resided about five years, then moved to Groveland in the same county.
He applied for pension September 19, 1828, at which time he resided in Groveland, Livingston County, New York. His claim was not allowed because the Act of Congress under which he applied provided only for those who served until the close of the war in 1783.
Jacob Laar died April 18, 1837, in Groveland, New York. His age at the time of his enlistment, at the time of his application for

pension, or at the time of his death is  are not stated in this claim, nor is the place of his birth shown.
Jacob Lear, or Loar, married in the spring of 1784, at a place called "Freeland Fort, in Pennsylvania, Catharine Crater; the ceremony was performed by a Lutheran minister. The age, place of birth, or names of the parents of said Catharine are not shown.
Catharine Lear, or Loar, the soldier's widow, died April 16, 1845, in Groveland, New York.
The soldier and his wife, Catharine, had thirteen children, seven of whom were living in 1850; their names, ages and residences at that time are shown as follow: Catharine, the first child, born in the spring of 1785, residing in Indiana; Benjamin, born in October 1787, residing in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan; Polly Womsey, born September 7, 1793, residing in Groveland, New York; Jacob, born October 12, 1795, residing in Woodstock, Michigan; Betsey Moyer and Sally Moyer, aged fifty-three and fifty-one years respectively, both residing in White Pigeon, Michigan; William, born in April, 1806, his residence not shown. There are no further data relative to any of these children, and the names of the other children are not shown.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Assistant to Administrator.
Mrs. Finch looked on Reg. Pensions - Act 1828- and found nothing further.

LESTER REYNOLDS ATTORNEY AT LAW KEYSER, W. VA.
Veterans Administration, Washington, D.C.
March 11, 1940
Gentlemen:
I am writing to your office in hopes of securing information concerning a Jacob Loar (Lohr, Lore, Loer, Lower, Lauer - maybe a slight variation in spelling) and a George Adam Eckhart (Echard, Ekert, Echert, Eckert - maybe a slight variation in spelling also).
My object is to determine whether or not they had any service in the Revolutionary War. The Adjutant General's office in Washington shows no record of such men in service but said their records were incomplete. They suggested writing to you and I sincerely hope you will assist me in whatever information you have.
These two men, (later related - Loar married Eckhart's daughter), my earliest known ancestors in this country, took the oath of allegiance Sept. 30, 1774 on arriving from Rotterdam on the ship "Union" (Pa. Archives, 2nd Series Vol 17, page 516). It is believed they first settled in York County, Pa. but sometime after 1780 they were found the first settlers ten miles west of Cumberland, Md. Their respective wives were Mary Eckhart and Susan Eckhart Loar (note above mentioned variations in spelling.) Do you have any record of any of these individuals having received a pension?
I shall be grateful for any information you can give me. Very truly yours, Mrs. Lester Reynolds.

Manson Iowa July 31 1935.
Veterans Administration Washington D.C.
Dear Sir.-
I want to thank you for the record you gave me of the Rev. war soldier " Jacob Lear " R-20321. but he did not prove to be my ancestor Jacob Lear who settled west of Cumber land Md. following the war, on military lots given him. The location is now Eckhart Mines Md. He and wife were buried on this farm. They died 1824 about 80 yrs old. I thought if this land was given him by the government, it must be for service in the war, or by the state either.
I am so anxious to prove that he was in the Rev. war, as so many of the Lear families are anxious to receive a D.C.R. record, and as I am preparing a Lear family history, they are hoping I may find a Rev war record.
Have you all the soldiers records there or just for Maryland. Is there any place else I might secure any fuller information. I will know how to

the " Stephen " family, and see if you can find a Rev. war sheet, that we may obtain a D. A. R. record through my ancestors from that line. My grand mother Loan was Hester Stephen; they lived at Jacktown Green Co Pa. she dying 1887. She was the dau. of Apollas Stephen and Luna Taylor Stephens.
Grand dau. of John Stephen, and Lucretia Stephens. They - John - lived in New Jersey not far from Elizabeth town, which was not far from Philadelphia.
John's children were Edward, John, Apollas, Samuel, William and Stacy. Apollas with the other brothers came to Green Co. Pa. in 1794 or some time before 1797. Have you any Rev. war record of his father, John Stephen of N. Jers. This is some time spelled " Stevens ." I hope you may find this record that we may yet be eligible for the D. A. R.
I sure will thank you mightily.
Yours gratefully. Mrs Emma Loan Gaddis

Manson Iowa Nov 23 1934
Veterans Administration Washington D.C.
Dear Sirs,
I am performing a genealogy on history of the "Loar" family.
Loar is also spelled Lohr, Louer, Lohr. in Germany it was "Lauer". I am trying to find a Rev. war record of my two ancestors Jacob Loar and George Adam Echert , also spelled Eckert, Eckhart, and Eckhart.
They sailed on the ship "Union" from Rotterdam and took the oath of allegiance Sept 1774. They settled in Pa. I think, but after the war they both settled at Eckhart Mines, 10 mi. west of Cumber- land Md. on land (our older one say) was given them by the govern- ment 50 acres a piece - for service rendered. Have you a record of these two tracts of land near Cumberland, or a record of either Jacob Loar or George Adam Eckhart's pension or of their service in the Rev. war?

that their descendants may receive a D.A.R. record.
I have this information,
"Jacob Lohr (Lohr) was in the Rev. war as a private," "Private 7th company, 7th Battalion of York Co Pa, taken from (Pa. Archives). He also served in York Co. Militia Pa, after the war had closed." I wrote to York Co. Clerk, he turned it over to a researcher, but I told him I was poor, without any employment, and just could not pay meet the terms offered. Then he kindly referred me to you, and I do hope you will be kind enough to give me this information, and the proof of his service in the Rev. war, and of the gov. giving him this land. Please give book, Page, Vol. etc for authority.
Also the same information for Geo. Adam Eckhart. It may call him George or Adam, but in his will he calls himself "Geo. Adam Eckhart," will probated 1799 , but he was called George by many and Adam by many.
I just can't tell you how I will thank you if you can give me proof of their Rev war service, the grant of this land, and the various. Any information will be so gratefully received.
I am enclosing a stamp for reply and want to thank you in advance for this favor. Yours gratefully
Mrs Emma Lohr Gaddis

January 30, 1934
Mr. A. D. Hiller Veterans Administration Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir,
In reply to your letter regarding BA- J 1322, Jacob Laar , R. 20321, I wish to say thank you for your prompt answer to my inquiry.
The information is interesting and particularly I wished to know the maiden name of Jacob Laar's widow and the fact of the wedding of Jacob Laar and Catherine Gratser.
Thank you for your kindness.
Sincerely yours,
Helen H. Marshall.

January 16, 1933.
Bureau of Pensions Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs,
Can you tell me whether Catherine Laar, wife of Jacob Laar received a pension?
Jacob Laar, a Revolutionary soldier, enlisted in Pennsylvania. He is buried in Groveland Cemetery in New York State. I do not know whether he lived in Groveland or Scottsville in New York State at the time of his death. He died in 1837 and his wife died in 1845.
I shall appreciate the information if you can give it to me.
Very truly yours, (Miss) Helen H. Marshall
445 Ashland Ave Buffalo, New York

COPY.
Pension Office January 7, 1851.
Mrs. Polly Wonsey Groveland, Lincoln County, New York.
Madam:
Your declaration in the right of your mother for a pension has been received.
If there be no record evidence of her marriage, the fact must be proved by the certificate of the Clerk of the County in which it occurred, or of the custodian of the records of the church where it was solemnized. Her identity with the widow of Jacob Loar who served as a Revolutionary War soldier must be distinctly proved as must also the exact date of his death and hers. On this point the affidavit of the coffin maker, physician, minister who preached the funeral sermon, or other person who kept a record of the events will be required.
The names of all their surviving children must be established by witnesses who can identify them as children of Jacob Loar, a deceased Revolutionary War soldier, and of his wife, married to him prior to 1794. The Auditor of Pennsylvania and the Secretary of the State possess information as to the services of the regular troops of that state in the Revolutionary War, and the certificate of one of these officers as to that service must be furnished.
I am respectfully,
Jas. C. Heath, Commissioner of Pensions.
I. L. Lerch, Rev. & 1812 Wars Section. January 24, 1934.

Q177 # 20.321

Jacob Baar - Penn line -
Pot -
✓ Rejected act 1825
New York
Exd one old Book, 1 Ref With: Yes I saw 8 other old books
No Record
1825
Nov 19/25

Gemser, 20 Sept 7
Yr
Richard Rush
Secretary of the Treasury
Revolutionary Claims
Washington
1087. Jacob Luan. Re. 26 Sept 1828 not entitled

Geneseo Sept 19. 1828
Sir
By the request of Jacob Laar of Groveland I send you his declaration for a pension - If his claim should not be allowed under the act of 1828 Please send me a set of forms under the acts of 1818 & 20 in cases where the applicant has never been on the pension list -
Respectfully Yours
O. Merrill
Secretary of Treasury

Canandaigua 14 th Oct 1850. Hon James L. Edwards
Dear Sir
I send you the within application of Polly Wansay a Daughter of Jacob Saar & Catharine Saar, you will see by the Declaration what she claims, she helps on the Rolls in the War Department as proof of her father's services, no Service can be found at Harrisburg on this Claim, your Rolls of 10 th Pennsylvania Regiment, and the officers named in the Declaration of Cause will show & also the Capt. he Enlisted with Shapp will be satisfactory when you find his name on your Rolls, as to the marriage there is no family Record, and no person that any of the children knew of old enough to show the Relation of man & wife prior to January first 1794, unless the age of the oldest child will establish that fact to your satisfaction. I hope you will be so kind as to let me know as soon as possible what will be the Result, in this Case
and also inform me if the second Certificate is issued in the Case of Mrs Lucy Stockwell, she asserted her claim in the City of Rochester in the month of June last past, I give the case to L. B. Garlinghouse as he was well acquainted with the Hon. Wm. H. Seward to direct to him to present the case that I might get a quick Return the Hon William H. Seward, presented the same Case to your Honor on the 5 th day of July last past. You allowed it on the 8 th day Mr Garlinghouse told me to write to Mr Seward and ask him the cause of the delay, I done so, he answered me in these words, he had forgot the name of Mrs Stockwell and requested me to ask Mr. Garlinghouse what was the given name of Mrs Stockwell, I wrote him back her given name was Lucy. He answered me saying that he mailed the Return given to him by the Commissioner about a week since and says I trust by this time it has been Received. his letter giving me this intelligence is dated 13 th August I see your letter saying, it was allowed on the 8 th July. please let me know did you issue the second Certificate the old Lady feels uneasy,
Yours etc Serjeant James M. Derron

462 Pension Office May 25-1882
Sir I herewith enclose the note of Mr. Kershner and, also, a copy of all the papers in file in this office in relation to the application of the daughter of Cath- arine Lear dec d widow of Jacob of N.Y. — No proof of service, nor of the date of marriage has been fur- nished, Q3
Hon George Hastings Hqs R