Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 10471, for Lucus Terwilleger, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Perwilleger, Lucas Perwilliger, Lucas
R. 10471
CONTENTS

State of New York County of Cayuga ss. John L. Terwilliger of Chemung County N.Y. being duly sworn say that he is a son of Lucas Terwilliger deceased, who made Application for a Pension under the Act June 7th 1832 and died on the 28th day of June 1850. The said Claim was suspended, that he is directly interested in the claim to the said Pension as the said Lucas Terwilliger left no widow at the time of his death subscribed & sworn to this John L. Terwilliger 24th day of June 1851 before me Harvey Heath Justice Peace
Know all men by these presents that I John L. Terwilliger of Chemung County N.Y. a surviving child of Lucas Terwilliger de- ceased do hereby constitute & appoint George C. Ames Esqr of Washington my true & lawful attor- ney for me & in my name to ask for a recon- sideration of the above mentioned Claim to a Pension and for the purpose of establishing my Claim to said Pension Witness my hand and Seal this 24th day of June 1851 In presence of John L. Terwilliger Seth Stevens
State of New York County of Cayuga ss. On this 24th day of June 1851 before me came John L. Terwilliger above named & acknowledged the foregoing power of attorney to be his act & deed In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand the day & year last above mentioned Harvey Heath Justice Peace

State of New York
Onondaga County ss. Clerk's Office
I certify that Harry Heath Esq. was at the time of taking the foregoing acknowledgment & affidavit a picture of the place in & for said County and duly authorized to take the same and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed My seal of Office the 3 rd day of July 1887
C. B. Corth Clerk Onondaga County N.Y. Deputy of Richard H. Thompson
J. L. Newill Esq.

31.908. Lucas Terwilliger, Libiatow
F
J. Robinson agent Elmira N.Y.

At a Court of Common Pleas held at the Court House in the Village of Elmira in and for the County of Tioga and State of New York on the first Tuesday in September 1834 Present
His honor John R. Drake First Judge Joseph L. Darling } Esqrs Judges Elijah Shoemaker }
State of New York } Tioga County } On this 5 th day of September 1834 personally appeared in open Court before the Judges aforesaid being a Court of record he cause made so by the constitution and laws of the State, having his left a blank and seal, now sitting, Lucas Fersvilleger a resident of Elmira in the County of Tioga and State of New York aged seventy four years and upwards who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his Oath make the following de- claration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832; That he entitled the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated.-
He deposes and alleges that on the last of May or first of June in the year 1796 he lived in the Town of New Paltz in the County of Ulster and State of New York and was enrolled in the Company of Captain John Boedenbach and belonged to the Regiment of Militia of that County

Commanded by Col. Joseph Glasbrook. At this period (June 76) a detachment of volunteers from this Regiment was called for by Col. Glasbrook and ordered out on an excursion against the Tories then lurking about in the County of Ulster and this Deponent volunteered and went on the expedition through as well the mountainous as other parts of the County and succeeded in making 14 prisoners at one place; 8 at another and 5 at another all of whom were safely lodged in Jail at Kingston and we were marched home and dismissed having been one month at least in the expedition.
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And he further declares that in the course of the same summer and fall of 76 the aforesaid Regiment was ordered out by detached parties on several occasions and by short excursions to the frontier of the County against the Indians and Tories. This Deponent was out on three of the said expeditions of two weeks each under the officers before named. In these tours our duty was mainly as scouts and spies having our quarters at the out posts.
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And he further declares that early in the spring of the next year (77) and he thinks by the first of April the Regiment aforesaid to which this Deponent belonged received orders (as was understood) from Gen. James Clinton to furnish a certain number of three months men destined for Fort Montgomery on the Hudson River; this Deponent volunteered for that service

under his officers before named was marched to the said Fort and served out the said term of three months in Garrison duty when we were relieved by other Militia and were dismissed and returned
3 mo. home the forepart of July. — In the course of a few weeks from this period Col. Hasbrouck made a call upon the Regiment for a detached party to rendezvous at Coeymans this deponent was of the party and was stationed one month at least at that place waiting the operations of the enemy above and below; we were then relieved by other Troops and returned home about the middle of September.
1 mo. And he further declares that in a short time and he thinks by the first of the next month (October 77) Col Hasbrouck made a call for three months Volunteers destined for the Jersey side of the Hudson; this deponent volunteered and some were drafted to make up the number required we were marched to Raritan and were stationed at that place and at Paramus and at Hackensack on Garrison duty for three months when this deponent was
3 mo. dismissed and he returned home. And he further declares and deposes that on the first of March of the next year (78) a detachment of our Regiment was ordered out by Col Hasbrouck for three months to be stationed at a Post called Lurinkill on the west side of the Shungan Mountain; this deponent volunteered on the

3 mo. remain and was stationed at that Post till the term expired on Garrison only except taking his regular tour as Scout and sentry and returned home in June.
And he declares further that in August of the same year last aforesaid and as nigh as he can remember about the 15th of that month a call was made by Col. Hasbrouck for volunteers for three months. This deponent volunteered with others and a detachment being thus raised we were marched to the Hudson River and stationed at a place called Haverstraw until the expiration of the term of three months and reached home about the first of December. —
2 mo. And he further declares that in the following spring (1879) on or about the first of May he volunteered with a detached party for two months under the same officers aforesaid and was marched on to the west side of the Shawangunk Mountain and stationed at Lurainville for a short time was then detached on an expedition along the frontier south and returned to Lurainville where he served out the remainder of the term of two months was dismissed and returned home the first part of July. — A call was soon made upon our Regiment for a quota of three months men for the North River service. This deponent

was a volunteer in this campaign and marched about the first of August under the Command of his Officers before named crossed the River to Fishkill where we joined the main Force and were stationed there during the said term, were dis- missed and returned home about the middle of November. Between this period 3 mos and the spring of the next year 1780 he was out on one or two Indian alarms but does not recollect distinctly the circumstances so as to give them in detail.
And he further declares that on or about the first of April in the following year 1780 in pursuance of orders as was understood from Gen. Clinton this deponent turned out as a volunteer under his officers before named on an expedition up the Hudson River and was marched to Albany thence to Old Schenectady where he was stationed on garrison duty for two months at least when the posts at that place were supplied by other Troops and this de- ponent was dismissed and returned
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Home
And he further declares that in all his services as detailed and set forth in the foregoing declaration he served in the grade of a Private - and further that he has no documentary evidence of his services and that after diligent enquiry for nearly two years he knows of

no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to them.
And in answer to the several interrogatories put to him by the Board he says that he was born at the Town of New Paltz County of Ulster in the State of New York on the tenth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and sixty.
That he has a record of his age in his family Bible which he set down from his Father's record of that fact and which he believes to be correct.
That he lived in the place of his nativity when he first entered the service - Since the Revolutionary War he lived in Shangum, Ulster County aforesaid - then in Pleasant Valley in the County of Orange and State aforesaid at which latter place he lived till he came to his present residence in Elmina where he has lived twelve years.
That in all his service he was one of the volunteer militia of the State of New York.
That besides his own officers he was acquainted with and knew Gen. James Clinton, Gen. George Clinton and Col. Livingston of Dutchess County.
That he never received any written or printed discharge to the best of his knowledge or recollection.
That he would refer to Ezekiel Rhoades, John Kline, Matthew Carpenter,

John Kendy and Elijah Jones all of Elmira aforesaid as gentlemen well acquainted with his reputation for truth and veracity and who can testify to their belief in the truth of the foregoing declaration.
That he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state ————— of Henry Terwilliger sworn to and subscribed this day and year aforsaid Green M. Tuttle clerk
We Thomas Maxwell and James Robinson residing in the Town of Elmina County of Tioga and State of Pennsylvania hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Lucas Terwilliger who has subscribed and sworn to the above de- claration; that we believe him to be seventy four years of age and upwards; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid Green M. Tuttle clerk J. Maxwell James Robinson

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Thomas Maswell and James Robinson who have signed the preceding certificate are residents in the Town of Emina aforesaid and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit; and further that no Clergyman lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant -
I Green M. Tuttle Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas aforesaid and of the County of Linn aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Lucas Ferrilleger for a Pension. Green M. Tuttle

Colin Rhoades Aft. in the case of Lucas Fewilliger
James Robinson Agent
J Robinson Esq. Present

State of New York } Piaga County } Personally appeared before the subscriber a brother of the Petitioner in and for said County Esquire Rhoades of Elmina in said County to me known to be a credible witness aged Seventy Seven years and upwards who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath depose and say that he has been acquainted with Lucas Fervilleger a Revolutionary soldier for many years past - that he resides in the easterly part of the Town of Elmina and is the  a near neighbor to this deponent and about four miles easterly from the village of that name - that he is a poor man and lives with his son John and when the Act of Congress of the 7 th of June 1832 was announced the said Lucas came forward with the rest of us to make application under the said act for a pension - That the said Lucas was advised by his Counsel to first endeavor by letter or in person to obtain evidence of his Revolutionary services from Ulster County in this State where he had resided during that period and where and in the vicinity of which his Revolutionary services had been performed - that the said Lucas spent upwards of one year in the attempt to provide ways and means to go in person to the said County of Ulster two hundred miles distant in order to obtain such evidence if it should be found; but through inability of body and the want of means he was finally compelled to abandon the journey and endeavor to obtain by letter what he had been desirous of doing in person. Thus his application was delayed till the last September term of the Court this deponent has understood and believes to be true.
And this deponent further saith that about the first of September last he went into the said County of Ulster - into Westchester County and also into the City of New York on business of his own and when in the said County of Ulster he made enquiry for testimony of the services of said Lucas but found the persons within deceased or removed to places unknown and no evidence could be obtained by this deponent on the subject - That this deponent is fully convinced the said Lucas was a Revolutionary soldier and served

as he has stated for the following reasons - that he has conversed with the said Lucas a number of times about his Revolutionary services prior to the passage of the said Act and when there was no prospect of any of us Military obtaining a pension and he uniformly gave the same account many of the incidents of which were known to this deponent to be correct and also a number of years since cannot recollect exactly how long this deponent was acquainted with an old soldier by the name of John Greisinger who informed this deponent that he served a number of campaigns with the said Lucas in the Revolutionary war two of which were at Lurien hill on the west side of the Shenangant Mountains in the County of Ulster and this deponent has no doubt of the truth of the facts stated to him by the said Greisinger as aforesaid for he considers him to have been a man of truth and veracity but when the said Greisinger now lives or if alive this deponent cannot say -
These and other circumstances induce this deponent to believe that the said Lucas was a Revolutionary soldier and from his known credibility and good standing for truth and veracity he has full confidence in his statements in regard to his said services, and no doubt is entertained in this community within the knowledge of this deponent in regard to his said Revolutionary services.
Sworn and subscribed by the said Ezekiel Rhoades this 23 d day of December 1834 before me
Ezekiel Rhoades
John M. Wisner J P

State of New York } Tioga County } ss
I, Grunell. Fithill, Clerk of the said County do hereby certify that John W. Werner before whom the foregoing affidavit was sworn and subscribed was on the day of the date thereof one of the Justices of the Peace, in and for said County; that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and know his signature subscribed to the said affidavit to be genuine.
Witness my hand and seal of office this 24 th day of December 1834 —
Grunell M. Fithill

Clifton October 2 nd 1834.
Sir
I had the honor yesterday to receive your letter of the 19 th Ult. post marked the 23 rd and containing objections to the claim of Reuben Terwilliger for a Pension.
The first objection is that his extension of one month in pursuit of Police "was one of the domestic Police". To this I answer that this kind of service has been allowed in four different cases within my recollection and so far as precedent is a guide we have good reason to suppose it will be allowed in this unless a new rule be laid down; and we cannot see why not - they were as much the common enemy as the British Army itself, and by far the most depredatory. The second objection is "the aggregate of several terms without detailing them." It is true he states that during the summer and fall of 1846 he was out upon the frontier six weeks, that is, three trips of two weeks each - If this be not sufficiently explicit the rule would be I should suppose to disallow it - It is as far forth particular as he is able to guess it correctly, for it is impossible for every old soldier to take his back track precisely.
But the before mentioned appear not to be wholly relied upon for it is stated that "the principal objections are 1 st that in obedience to a rapid succession of calls for a small part of Hasbrouck's Regt. of Militia

he was in reality a volunteer under the same officer". I cannot see any great capacity of call in performing twenty two months service in the course of upwards of four years; or why his being a volunteer should be an objection. By the 4 th interrogatory he is bound to state whether he was a volunteer drafted or a substitute - One kind of service seems as much within the rule as another; and as a general practice it will be found that the young men of that day were most generally volunteers - They were advised by their Whig Fathers (and there were true Whigs) to turn out and meet the enemy while they, the Fathers should defend the fireside - "Under the same officer" - As far hitherto as my notice has extended it has been held sufficient for the applicant to state the officer from whom he received his order; not that he should give every officer who may have commanded at the different posts or garrisons where he may have been stationed; for he might as well remember the merk'd trees and guide boards he had passed by. - The 2 nd objection is that he knows no one among the numerous survivors of that part of the militia of Dutchess County by whom he can prove any part of twelve terms of militia service in that County. It is true that the Counties of Dutchess and Orange furnished more soldiers of the Revolution both militia and regular than any other two Counties in the state and the chances of procuring testimony greater than in a County not half so populous. But it will be seen by the declaration that this applicant was of Ulster County on the West side of the

Andson, horn, laid and entered the record there and was not in Dutchap County on the east side of that River in the season but one time in 79 at Fish Kill. Third trust is not the only case which has been allowed without any other proof than tradition.
It is stated that "these objections are also strengthened by the delay in making the application while it appears he is a resident of the Village in which the Courts are held" &c. I am not aware of any rule requiring a reason for delay under this act; there is under that of 1818; and if there were this applicant could give a good and sufficient one - he states in his declaration he has been searching for testimony - and he had every assurance of finding it till recently. But how "it appears that he is a resident of the Village where the Courts are held" I cannot conceive. If it do so appear it is error. He lives with his son between three and four miles easterwardly from the Village and has lived there this ten years, in a thinly settled neighborhood, in the town of E'minia to be sure, but not in the Village of E'minia which is an incorporated Village - The Court certify that no clergyman lives in the immediate vicinity of this applicant, but we a number of clergymen in the Village -
These objections seem so extraordinary to me that I hope your Honor will not consider it any disrespect if I return the letter in order that it may be seen they are fairly quoted in my remarks; and as it is impossible for your Honor to examine personally the map of business daily presented to the office it is my special request that Doct. Brump and Capt. Luce of this First Division may examine

this claim and either allow it or furnish a better set of objections.
Please accept the assurance of my high respect & consideration
James Robinson
The Hon. J. L. Edwards Comr. of Pensions

31.908 New York
Lucas Terwilliger Suspended
Set to James Robinson 19 Sept 1834
Set to Same 15 Oct 1834
App d Mar 24 1837
Set Gen. C. Ames Oct 11/51
10471.
ack - 7 th 1832 -

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1878.
10,471
P. O. Lucas Terwilliger
Service: Lucas Terwilliger
107
Enlisted: Aug. 20, 1906 , 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Cont
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 1
REJECTED