Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 6509, for William Lucas, North Carolina

SERVICE
NUMBER
N. C.
Lucas, William
R 6509.
CONTENTS

State of Indiana } In the Clay Probate Court at the February County of Clay & Set. Term for the year 1845.
Present the Honorable Daniel Harris Sole Judge of said Court: When the following proceedings were had to-wit:
On this Nineteenth day of February Anno Domini, one thousand eight hundred and forty five, before the Probate Court of the County of Clay in said State of Indiana, now sitting, personally appeared in open Court, William Lucas, a resident of Clay Township in the County of Clay, and State of Indiana aforesaid, aged Eighty one years, on the 31st day of December A.D. 1844, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7th. 1832; That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated: The names of the officers under whom he served were Colonel John Collier, Lieutenant Colonel Tibby Belford, Captain John Knight, Lieutenant Emanuel Brookshire; That he entered the service of the United States under the above named Captain John Knight, as one of Capt. Knight's company; It was towards the close of the war; He cannot state the day nor month when he entered the service, but to the best of his recollection the services he rendered were rendered in the fall and winter of the year 1781; That he was a volunteer, and was in actual service, three months; That at the time he entered the service he resided in Randolph County North Carolina; That he was in his 17th year when part of the services were rendered, and the residue in his 18th year; That he was in no engagement; That he was marched through Randolph, Chatham and Montgomery Counties North Carolina; That he belonged to what was called the Minute Service. — And that part of the time Captain Edward Williams's company, and Capt. Knight's company were joined, and served together when it was thought that much danger was near. That he has no record of his age; And that he has no certificate of discharge or

documentary evidence of his services, and that he knows of no person now living by whom he can prove the same.
And that he hereby relinquishes every claim to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the Agency of any State, or Territory. W M SUEAS
Subscribed and sworn to in open court on the day and year aforesaid. Attest C. C. McDevitt Clerk.
We Montgomery Hobbs — and John Care — both Clergymen, residing in the immediate neighborhood, in Clay County Indiana, of William Sueas who has made and subscribed the above and foregoing declaration, do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with the said William Sueas, who has subscribed and sworn to the foregoing declaration; That we believe him to be eighty one years of age; That he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood, where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we fully concur in that opinion. Montgomery Hobbs John Care
Sworn to and subscribed in open court, the day and year aforesaid. Attest C. C. McDevitt Clerk.
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the full investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant William Sueas, was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the court further certifies, that the above named Montgomery Hobbs — and John Care — who have signed the preceding certificate are Clergymen of good reputation, and reside in said County as by them above stated; and that their statement is entitled to full credit.
Signed February 19 th 1875
Daniel Harris Probate Judge

I Charles C. Moudisett Clerk of the Probate Court of the County of Clay aforesaid, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of William Lucas, of the County of Clay and State aforesaid for a Pension.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court, at my office in said County of Clay, this nineteenth day of February, Anno Domini, one thousand eight hundred and forty-five.
C. C. Moudisett Clerk.
Questions propounded by the Clay Probate Court, and answers of William Lucas.
1 Where and in what year were you born?
Answer. I was born in Randolph County, North Carolina, on the 31 st day of December in the year 1764.
Where did you reside when you were called into service, where have you resided since the war, and where do you now reside?
Answer I resided when called into service, in Randolph County, North Carolina, I then  resided  to  North . After the war I moved to Montgomery County, in North Carolina, and I now reside in Chip Township Clay County, Indiana.
Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
Ans. There once was a record of my age in my father's bible, but what has become of it I am not able to say.
How were you called into service, were you a volunteer, were you draughted, or were you a substitute, and if so for whom?
Ans. I was a volunteer - in Captain John Knight's company and was sometimes joined with Capt. Knight's men, to Capt. Edward Williams Company when much danger was thought to be near.

Did you ever receive a certificate of discharge, if so, by whom was it signed, and if so where is it?
Ans. I never received any.
State the names of such field and staff officers, with whom you were acquainted, such other companies, that were with your company, and if in any engagements, where and at what time, and the nature of your services in general?
Ans. Lieutenant Colonel Sibby Belford. Colonel John Collier, were officers under whom I served, Major Thomas Dugan was an officer in Randolph County, but he never commanded Capt. Knight or Capt. William's company. I was in no engagements. The business of the company to which I belonged as was also that of Capt. Williams, was to guard the settlement, against the British and Tories, we rode frequently all day and all night, and suffered very much from cold weather.
State the names of such persons in your present neighborhood, as can testify to your character for truth and veracity, and their belief that you were a soldier of the Revolution?
Answer. Montgomery Hobbs, John Lease, Samuel Stigler, Greenberry Drake, John Black, Samuel Riley, Kenny Kelly, John Sathrum, Nicholas G. Cromwell, Robert H. Raino, George Eli, Benjamin C. Rain, William Zener, Peter Hinoto, Harrison Dalgarn, John Cash, Abram Darling, Joseph Johnston & James Scarlett.
The above questions were propounded by the Court, and answered as above set forth, by William Lucas, under oath.
Daniel Harris
February 19th. 1845.
Probate Judge

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of William Lucas , a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his ( or his widow's ) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau. Vb. 6,509
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Fall 1781 3 mos. John Knight. John Collier, MS          
Battles engaged in, None stated.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Randolph Co. N.C.
Date of application for pension, Feb. 19. 1845.
Residence at date of application, Cause Township, Clay Co. Ind.
Age at date of application, 7 Dec 31. 1764 in Randolph Co. N.C.
Remarks: The claim was not allowed on the ground that soldier had not rendered 6 mos service as required by the Act of June 7, 1832 under which he applied for pension.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.

GENERAL BANKING FARM LOANS NOTARY PUBLIC
OSCAR OAKLEAF, PRES'T. PETER CASSEL, V-PRES'T.
Z. M. HAMMAN, CASH. C. FRED CARLSON, A-CASH.
MADRID STATE BANK
SAFETY DEPOSIT BOXES
CAPITAL AND SURPLUS, $40,000.00
MADRID, IOWA Nov. 25, 1913.
Mr. Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:--
If possible, will you please send me a statement of the military history of William Lucas , a soldier of the Revolutionary war, and who resided in 1840 in either Clay or Putnam County, Indiana, my informant is uncertain just which, and from the best information I can obtain he enlisted from North Carolina.
Thanking you very much for your kindness, I am
Very truly,
Z. M. Hamman.

Land Department Illinois Central Railroad.
Chicago, Ills. Febrj. 5 th 1856.
Sir:
Some ten or twelve years ago I presented an application for a Pension in favor of William Lucas of Clay County, Indiana; I do not remember under what act, or what services he rendered but my impression is that it was for services during the Revolutionary War. The Hon. Joseph A. Wright was then a member of Congress, and my impression is that most if not all the correspondence was addressed to him. I was written to concerning the matter, and I cannot fully recollect the decision of your office, but I am satisfied that the claim was not allowed.
If you will have the kindness to advise me what the decision was, I will take it as a very great favor - and also state whether under any of the late acts of Congress, the claim as stated in the application could be allowed.
Very Respectfully Your Obt. Servt.
P. Daggy
Ills. Central R.R. Chicago Ills.
Hon. Com r . of Pensions Washington D.C.

No 35.966. William Lucas hus.
Rejected Edw. to Wm. L. & A. Wright March 8th 1845 " " P. Dazzy April 2. 1845 " " Same Febz 11/56
Act 7 June 1832

1913 Dec 3. Hist to J. M. Hannan. M.B.H
Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
6509
P. O.
William Lucas
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

No. 35966
William Lucas
Ind.
Act 7 May 1832
Rejected.
Claimant-alleged he lived but 3 mos.
6509

Worthington W.C.
March 3 rd 1845.
Yours sincerely
Edw
I send you enclosed the application of William Lucas for a pension, when he has your letter as soon as convenient, deciding the case, for you can now decide this case, for according to his own statement he only served 3 months, you will place in your letter acknowledgement the receipt of your letter enclosing letter of Peter Doggy Esq, a gentleman that will probably have more business with you than I have, as is a matter of the confidence of your department, I wish to send your letter to the Doggy informing him that I have recommended him to your favorable consideration, you understand me, he is a person of respectability, his letter, & felt the same Joseph S. Wright

Mar 24 '45
India
FREE
Hon. Jas. L. Edwards (Commissioner of Pensions) Washington City, D.C.
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Green Castle Indiana, March 15. 1845.
Dear Sir:
Some few weeks since I wrote an application for a Pension for William Lucas, and sent it to the care of the Hon. Joseph A. Wright, with a request that he should present it to the proper department for consideration. This day received a note in reply informing me that owing to a statement made in the Declaration that Mr. Lucas had served but three months, he (Mr. W.) was of the opinion that he would not be entitled to a pension. It is true that he was in actual service but three months, and he directed me to state in his declaration that he volunteered his services some months (I now forget the number) before he went into the service, holding himself in readiness to go at any time he might be called upon from that time until he went into service, and during the whole time followed no occupation whatever. I advised him that such a statement would be of no service to him, and consequently he did not make it. I have never seen a copy of the act of Congress of June 7. 1832, and I suppose perhaps gave him wrong advice.
My object in writing is to ascertain, whether you will allow him to amend his declaration by affidavit, and whether a statement of the above character would be of any service to him in the investigation of his claim. I should also be pleased to have any other instructions in relation to his case that you may be pleased to give. If any man is in need of a Pension, he is, and I am perfectly satisfied that he could under no circumstances be induced to make any statement that was not true. He is very particular, in what he says and does, and you may rest assured that he is no impostor.
Hon. J. L. Edwards.
I am Sir,
Your Honors,
most ob t servt.
P. Gagg