Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 10604, for William Tilden, Massachusetts

SERVICE
NUMBER
Mass.
Tilden, William Lucy
R. 10604
CONTENTS
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William Tilden His Book January the forth 1780
Stoughton May the 26 th 1779 I was Married November the 8 th moved home 1780 June the 28 th Lydia Tilden born 1782 February 21 st Benjamin Tilden born 1783 June the 10 th Set out from Stoughton and arrived at Palmer the 21 st of June 1784 May the 19 th Ruth Tilden born 1786 June the 2 nd William Tilden born 1786 June the 11 th My Wife Died in the 32 year of her age and was buried the 12 th Day July the 24 th 1787 I was Married 1787 October the 26 th Lois Tilden born October the 19 th 1789 Lucy Tilden born January the 25 th 1792 Sabra Tilden born May the 15 th 1794 Daniel Tilden born Benjamin Tilden Died November the 1795 in the 13 th year of his age

An account of Rates L S D    Rates for the year 1777  2-6-5-2     0-2-7-0  
  Rates for 1778  11-0-4-3     4-3-10-3  
  Rates for 1779  22-0-8-3     4-0-9-2     21-12-1-0  
  Rates for 1780 and 1781  Silver Rate 0-7-6-2     237-14-0  
  Rates for 1784 P Palmer  0-15-8-0 0-40     0-5-0-0  
  Rates for 1785  0-19-9-1     0-4-6     0-9-0  
  Rates for 1786  1-16-2     0-5-0     0-6-0  
June the 27 th 1776 Martha Tilden born
May the 17 th 1799 Adah Tilden born
June the 7 th 1802 Benjamin Tilden born
June the 21 st 1802 Benjamin Tilden died

Declaration.
In order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by acts of Congress of 21 st July 1838, 3 rd March 1843, 17 th June 1844, and 2 nd February 1848, being acts granting pensions to certain widows,
State of New York
Assepego County ss On this 10 th day of June 1848,
before the subscriber a Judge of the County Courts in and for said County, personally appeared Lucy Hildreth of the town of Albion in said County, aged eighty eight years and upwards, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the acts of Congress above named.
That she is the widow of William Hildreth who was during the Revolutionary War a resident of the town of Weymouth Massachusetts, in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, he was in the battle of Bunker Hill - was at Rhode Island, at an Island called "the coast", or place where service in the capacity of a corporal, at such place, as will be seen by a killed - hundred annexed, which she and while at such place and which has been carefully preserved by him from such time until his death, and since by his widow, that from his own statements it has always been understood that he was in the service most of the time for three or four years, that she was married to said William Hildreth in the town of Palmer on the 24 th day of July 1787, as will be seen by the record hereto annexed, which is the identical old family Record which has been in use for upwards of 60 years past, and that the same is in the hand writing of said William Hildreth late deponent's husband,

who died in the year 1823, and left this deponent his widow, who has not inter- married but still remains his widow.
Subscribed before me, This day of year before mentioned by Lucy Tilden, who I certify is whose appearance in court on account of age and infirmity, and who is a creditable witness.
O. H. Whitney Co Judge of Onondago Co NY
Lucy X Tilden mark
A 1.

State of New York, Onondaga County } ss
Personally appeared before the subscriber a Judge of the county in and for said county, Lois Tilden of Albion in said county aged fifty years and upwards who being first duly sworn according to law deponeth and saith that she is a child of the late William Tilden, and Lucy Tilden whose application for a pension is hereto annexed, as the widow of said William Tilden deponeth further that this deponent has always understood from her said parents, that her said father William Tilden, ever during the Revolutionary war a resident of the town of Houghton in the State of Massachusetts, and that he entered the service of the United States in the army of the Revolution from said town, and done much service during the war, that he often stated that he was at the battle of Bunker Hill, - was for some time at Rhode Island, and was at a place called Castle Island, and was in service most of the time for three years, - that he always stated that the bounties hereto annexed, were received by him while in the army at Castle Island, that he died in the year 1823, - and left said Lucy Tilden his widow who still remains his widow, that the record of her marriage hereto annexed is the only original family record which has been in use from deponent's earliest recollections, and as deponent knows is in the hand writing of deponent's father, the said William Tilden and which deponent believes is a true
sworn & subscribed upon me this 10 day of June 1848, by Lois Tilden - who is my to be a true copy O.H. Whitney Co Judge of Onondaga Co
Lois Tilden

Rev. and 1812 Wars Section.
Cars.
January 25, 1924.
John W. Linzee, 848 Beacon St., Boston, Mass.
Sir;
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, R. 10604, it appears that Lucy Tilden, while a resident of Albion, Oswego County, New York, aged eighty eight years, applied for pension June 10, 1848 and alleged that her husband, William Tilden, was a resident of Stoughton, Norfolk County, Massachusetts, during the War of the Revolution, and that he was in the Battle of Bunker Hill, was at Rhode Island and at Castle Island, served as corporal and was in service three or four years, no officers nor dates given.
Her claim was not allowed as she failed to furnish specific proof of her husband's service, as required by the pension laws.
It also appears, that William Tilden was married twice, name of first wife not stated, he married her May

26, 1779 and she died, June 11, 1786 in her 32d year. The above mentioned Lucy, maiden name not stated, being his second wife, to whom married in Palmer, July 24, 1787.
Children by first wife-
  Lydia  born  June  28,  1780.     Benjamin  "  February  21,  1782,  died -----    Ruth  "  May  19,  1784.     William  "  June  2,  1786.   
Children by second wife-
  * Lois  -----        Lucy  born  October  19,  1789.     Sabra  "  January  25,  1792.     Daniel  "  May  15,  1794.     Marthe  "  June  27,  1796.     Adah  "  May  17,  1797.     Benjamin  "  June  7,  1802,  died June 21, 1802.  
Respectfully,
Commissioner.
* Did not give date of birth of last child as she was born 3 mos. after marriage cert.

No 13733 Lucy Dean NY Am St. & H. W. Dean at 16th St (January 2 1839.) Mrs. C. Blackwell March 11th Set free by husband. Died July 1838

1924-Jan-25. Here to join the Singer suit.
10,604
P. O.
Lucy Tilden
Service:
REJECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
The printed list of 1852 does not show the name of Alleges: Lucy Tilden from N.Y.
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
Recognized. _____
Contract. _____

State of New York Oswego County Clerk's Office }ss I, Jacob H. Gilbert Clerk of the County of Oswego hereby certify that Orla H. Whitney Esq. who name is subscribed to the two jurats of affidavits hereto annexed, was at the date of said jurats County Judge in and for the said County, dwelling in said County, and duly elected and qualified to act as such; that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his signature to said jurats is genuine
Witness my hand and the seal of the said County this twelfth day of June 1848. Jacob H. Gilbert Clerk

To Corporal William Tilden
Castle Island
A 3.

as Sack the king. Commander was going to his Duty, through all the Crowds he Smil'd, and Bow'd to Every blooming Beauty, the City rung of feats he'd Done in portugal and flanders and all the town thought he had Crown'd a Second Alexander
to hampton court he first Repair'd to kiss Great Georges hand Sir then to harangue on Stateaffairs before he Left the Land Sir, the Lower house Sat mute as mouse to hear his Grand Oration while all the peers with Lowdest Cheers Proclaim'd him through the nation,
Then Strait to Canada he went Next too Ticondaroga and Passing those away he goes straight way to Saratoga
with Grand parade his march he made to gain his wish for Station. whilst far and wide his minions try to spread his proclamation.
to such as stay, he offers made of pardon or Submission.
but Savage bands should waste the Lands of all in opposition.
but ah the cruel fate of war this boasted son of Britain when mounting his Triumphal Car with Suding fear was Smitten
the Sons of freedom gather'd Round his hostile Bands confounded for when they fain have turn'd their backs they found them selves Surrounded
in Vain they fought in Vain they fled their Chief humane and Tender to Save the Rest he thought it best his forces to Surrender.
thus may americans brave Sons with honour be Rewarded
in the faile of all her foes the same as here Recorded.
For the Amusement of Wm. Tilden. Castle Island
March 23. 1778.

Ha. W. Duer
Nov 16. 48

Pension Office March 16 1848
Sir,
I have the honor to inform you that the pension of Experience Ormsbee widow of Ebenezer Ormsbee has been correctly Computed at $33 33 / 100 per annum for 10 months since which is all that her husband claimed to have rendered Mrs Ormsbee Application to be allowed the same rate of pension which her husband received under the act of 18 March 1818. Cannot be admitted
In the case of Lucy Tilden widow of William Tilden, the date of their marriage is established but there is no evidence to show that the service of William Tilden under Col Marshall in 1776, or under Col Stawes in 1777 was rendered by Claimants husband or that that Tilden belonged to Houghton and the balance found credited to his name on the record of Massachusetts State of Connecticut by the Secretary of that Commonwealths if admitted would be sufficient to entitle her to a pension. We cannot allow Mrs Tilden a pension upon the proof now furnished
Hon W. D. Duer Olsego NY

Hono Mr. D. N. D. N. Jan 2. 48.

Sir
Pension Office 13 June Decem 1849
In answer to your letter of the 26 th inst. I have the honor to inform you that a report was made to you in the case of Eschene Amaba widow of Ebenezer Amaba and Lucy Tilden widow of William Tilden on the 16 th of Nov r in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and last and also in the case of Rachel Potter on the 9 th March last. Copies of which are herewith returned. It does not ap- pear that any additional evidence in support of these claims have been used since the date of these reports.
A Certificate was issued in the case of Maria Passon widow of Lemuel Passon upon the act of 2 Feb 1848. in 14 Nov last and enclosed to Hon H Putnam Ithaca NY.
Hon Mr Dyer House of Reps

Pension Office March 10, 1849
Sir
I have the honor to inform you that the supplemental Certificate of the Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts presented in the case of Lucy Tilden affords no additional evidence of her husband's identity with the William Tilden credited with Service under Col. Marshall and Col. Hovey, and consequently does not remove the objection to the admission of her claim. It must be shown that that husband belonged to Houghton to entitle Claimant to a pension for his services.
The evidence in the case of Lydia Bale dec., widow of Daniel Bale shows that their marriage took place in 1778, the service for which the an increase was granted. Terminated in 1779. Her case is not embraced by the act of 4 July 1836.
In the case of Mary Sarkin for a pension an applicant under the act of 29 May 1848

The husband's service for two years is admitted but she must establish her marriage with the late pensioner Thomas Larkin prior to 1800 by record or documentary evidence public or private or show that no such proof exists - before the testimony of witnesses can be received. The evidence now furnished upon this point is not at all satisfactory.
I enclose herewith a copy of a letter from this Department to Hon. Martin Kearney dated 31 st Decemr. 1845 which will fur- -nish you with the objections to the admission of Sally Whitney, Claim to a pension
March 10, 49
Hon E. Blackman Member of Congress

An appeal is taken -
Lucey Tilden of New York, widow of Mr Tilden the Com d of Pensions admits the marriage, but denies the service &c - I refer to the papers on file, & the prof the Secy. certificate of the service of Mr Tilden, I refer to a map, or plan of the town, the relative situ- -ation of Stoughton - It would seem, that the rolls were sworn to at Dedham, there is one town between Dedham & Stoughton, but Dedham may have been near the centre of the Regiment, they may have met there to accommodate the most soldiers, nor does it argue against Mr Tilden - Capt Randall under whom Mr Tilden served, was of Easton, this town adjoins Stoughton & only the road between the two towns - The Secretaries certificate says Mr Tilden was under Capt Randall Col Marshall 4 th No 27 - This Capt Randall as I have said was of Easton, if our man Tilden was of Stoughton, or of Easton, as there was only the road between the two towns, it would not be singular if he was put down for the one, or the other town - The 1 st 7 days sworn to at Dedham is no objection to the just claim of Tilden to that service, as that may have been the centre
We ask a careful re-view of the case under a belief that the claim of the poor old widow is well made out -

Pension Office October 18. 1850.
Sir, I have the honor herewith to transmit the papers numbering 7, relating to the case of Lucy Tilden, on which Mr. Isaac Tey appeals and a brief of the evidence.
The objections originally made to this claim, and on which it was rejected, were that no evidence had been produced to prove the identity of her husband with the William Tilden credited with service under Col. Mearshall and Col. Davies, nor to show that the William Brown, husband of Lucy Tilden, was of, or belonged to Houghton. No additional evidence has since been furnished, although the parties were advised that such proofs were necessary to entitle the claimant to a pension. The original objections therefore remain unanswered.
I have the honor to be Very Respectfully Your obedt Servt J. L. Edwards
Genl. William A. Graham, Acting Secretary of the Interior.

Ovid N.Y. March 7 th 1851
Sir
In October 1850 I appealed the case of Lucy Tilden late an applicant for a pensioner of New York I have rec d no report
Most Respectfully Your Ob d Serv t Fred Loy
Hon Alex H H Stuart Secy of Interior Washington D.C.
buf Oct 21/57
Ret d to Pen off - for reexamination Dec r 5/50. nl

Gloucester Nov 4 68
Sir,
I enclose another memorandum at request of Mr. M c Leod for of N. J.
Resps you with W m Deere
You may address same to me at Washington

p. 27
Orion N.Y.
Oct 9. 1880
Mrs. Joy
Appeals from the decision of the Commissioner of Pensions in the case of Lucy Tilden widow of Wm. Tilden. —
6.
Ref d to Comm r of Pensions for a Report Dep t Interior Oct. 12 1880
Please send the papers in this case J. Duncan

Ovid N.Y. Oct 9th '58
Sir
I appeal from the decision of the Com. of Pensions, in the case referred to in the enclosed.
Most Respectfully Your Abt Servt Abad Joy
Hon A. H. H. Stuart Secy. of Interior

The Certificate for 4 mo. 27 days, says Capt Randall was of Easton - Runnals - Easton - Canton, & then Stoughton all in same County of Norfolk - The Certificate of the 1 month 27 days, the Capt was of Easton - Runnals - Easton and Stoughton are adjoining towns, lay side & side, one being in Norfolk the other in Bristol Co, nearly crossing the road from Stoughton, would bring the person into Easton where Capt. Richards resided

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Secretary's Office, Boston; January 23 1849.
I hereby Certify, That, from an examination of the Books and Documents, relating to Military Services in the War of the Revolution, which remain in this Department, it appears that the name of William Tilden is borne upon a Pay Roll of Capt Matthew Randall's Company in Col Thomas Marshall's Regt, at Hull, as a private, from July 5 to December 1 1776, 4 Months and 27 days.
4-27
Said Capt Randall belonged to Easton, as appears from documents in this Office.
Upon a Bounty Roll of Capt Ald Richards Company in Col Benjamin Hawes's Regt, for service at Rhode Island, as a private, from September 25 to October 28 1777, including allowance of 3 days to return home, 1 month 27 days. This Roll was sworn to at Dedham.
1.7  6.4
No further identity can be given in this case.

And I further Certify, That, before search made for evidence of said facts, the Commissioner's letter of January 2 1849 was filed in this Office; that the search was made by myself and my clerks alone; and that said letter, and the certificate above set forth, contain all the facts and circumstances within my knowledge, pertaining to the case.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto affixed the Seal of the Commonwealth, the date above written.
W. W. Calhoun,
Secretary of the Commonwealth.

A Brief of the estate in the case of
Lucy Tilden & and of Wm
10604

Pinehurst Office October 1850
Lucy Tilden of Oswego Co. State of New York in order to entitle her to a pension under the various provisions made by acts of Congress of the 7 th of July 1838 - 3 rd of March 1843 - 17 th of June 1844 and the 2 nd of February 1848. on oath declares that she is the widow of William Tilden who was a resident of the town of Houghton in the County of Norfolk State of Massachusetts during the Revolutionary war, that he was at the Battle of Bunker Hill, was at an Island called the Castle and served in the capacity of a corporal at such places, as will be seen by a Balance hereto annexed which he received while at such place and which he has been carefully preserved until his death and since by his widow, from his own statements, it has always been understood that he was in the service of the U States most of the time for three or four years - that she was married to William Tilden in the Town of Palmer on the 24 th of July 1787 as will be seen by the record hereto annexed which is the identical old family record which has been in use for upwards of 60 years and which is in the hand writing of William Tilden, deponent's husband who died in the year 1823, and left the deponent his widow and who has never married and still continues his widow. (A. 1)
Louisa Tilden of Oswego Co. State of New York a town of Albion aged 60 years and upwards being sworn, says that she is a child of the late William Tilden & Lucy Tilden, that she has always understood from her said Parents that her father William Tilden was during the Revolutionary war a resident of the Town of Houghton in the State of Massachusetts, and that he entered

The Service of the united States in the army of the Revolutionary war from said town, that he often stated he was at the Battle of Bunkers hill and was at a place call Castle Island and was in the service mostly of the time for three years - that he always stated that the verses hereto annexed were received by him while in the army at Castle Island. That he died in the year 1823 and left said Lucy Tilden his widow who still remains his widow. that the record of marriage hereto annexed is the identical old family record which has been in use from deponents earliest recollection - and as deponent knows is in the hand writing of her father William Tilden (A. 2.)
Record of marriage annexed. July 24 th 1787.
William B Calhoun Secretary of State of Massachusetts certifies under seal of office that from an examination of the books & documents relating to military services in the war of the Revolution, it appears that the name of William Tilden is borne upon a muster roll of Capt. Dugges company that marched from Stoughton on an alarm April 19 1775 as a private 12 days. upon a muster roll of Capt. Robert Givens company in Col. Benjamins Gillis Regt. at Yarmouth as a private from June 13 1776 three days - upon a muster roll of Captain Mathew Brandalls company in Col Thomas Marshalls Regt. for service at Hull as a private from July 5 to December 1 1776 4 months & 27 days - upon roll of Capt. Stephen Penniman's company in Col. Dicks Regt. - as a private of Stoughton from December 18 th 1776 to March 1 1777 two months and nineteen days - upon a Bounty roll of Capt. Abiel Richards in Col. Benjamin Haws Regt. at Rhode Island as a private from September 25 to October 28. including an allowance of 3 days to return home one month & 7 days - upon a pay roll of Capt. Theophilus Lyons that marched

to Castle Island March 1 1778 as a corporal to April 5th 36 days. (B. 1. 1)
Mr William H Calhoun Secretary as aforesaid January 23 d 1849. certifies under seal of office that it appears in the books of the office relating to military services on the basis of the Resolution that the name of William Tilden is borne upon a pay roll of Captain Matthew Brandall's company in Col Thomas Marshall's Regt. at Hull as a private from July 5 to December 1 1776 4 months and 27 days, said Capt. Brandall be- longed to Easton as appears from documents in the office - This name appears also on a Bounty Roll of Capt. Abel Precharde's company in Col. Benjamin Hawes Regt. in service in Rhode Island as a private from September 25 to October 28 1777 including allowance of 3 days to return home 1 month & 7 days. no further identity can be given in this case. (C 1.)

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Secretary's Office, Boston:
May 8 th 1848.
I hereby Certify, That, from an examination of the Books and Documents relating to Military Services in the War of the Revolution, which remain in this Department, it appears that the name of William Gilden is borne upon a Muster Roll of Capt William Briggs Company, that marched from Houghton on an alarm, April 19 1775, as a private, 12 days.
12-65
Upon a Muster Roll of Capt Robert Swan's Company, in Col Benjamin Tilton's Regt, at "Squantum," as a private, from June 13 1776. Thru days.
36
Upon a Muster Roll of Capt Matthew Randall's Company, in Col Thomas Marshall's Regt for service at Hull, as a private from July 5 to December 1 1776, 4 Months and 27 days.
4-27-
Upon a Pay Roll of Capt Stephen Penniman's Company
5-42

in Col Dikes Regt, as a private of Sloughton from December 13 th 1776. to March 1 1777. 2 months and 19 days.
2-19
Upon a Bounty Roll of Capt Abel Richards's Company, in Col Benjamin Hawes's Regt, at Rhode Island, as a private from September 25 to October 28 1777, including allowance of 3 days to return home, 1 month + 7 days.
1-7
1-36
5-2 5-1- 10-15
Upon a Pay Roll of Capt Theophilus Lyons
And I further Certify, That, before search made for evidence of said facts, the application hereto annexed was filed in this Office, in the form in which the same now appears; that the search was made by myself and my clerks alone; and that said application, and the certificate above set forth, contain all the facts and circumstances within my knowledge, pertaining to the case.
Company that marched to Castle Island March 1 1778, as a Corporal to April 5 th 36 days.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto affixed the Seal of the Commonwealth, the date above written.
W. H. Calhoun
Secretary of the Commonwealth.

Application for certificate of Revolutionary services State of New York, County of Onondaga, Town of Albion -
The Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, is hereby requested to furnish evidence from the rolls in his Office of the services of William Dildon, who entered the service probably from Houghton, Norfolk County, Massachusetts. He was at the battle of Bunkerhill and done service for about nine months in 1775, was at and in the vicinity of Boston, most of the time in 1775. He was afterwards at an Island called "The Castle" - was at Rhode Island, and was in the nine months service - done service in all some three years or more. He was married 1788, he died 1823, widow still living -
Mr G Munde of Rose M.Y. is the authorized attorney.
Lucy Dildon, Signed in my presence per Mr G Munde who appears from documents exhibited to me to be the authorized attorney.
H. Salisbury justice of the Peace

June 23, 1851.
Arad Joy, Esq. Ovid, N. Y.
Sir; In reply to your letter of the 9th March last, calling up the case of Lucy Tilden, upon which you appealed from the decision of my predecessor, you are informed that the case has been returned to this office by the Secretary of the Interior for reexamination, which has been made, but I find nothing in the evidence to induce a reversal of the decision then made.
The objections then made to this claim and on which it was rejected, were that no evidence had been produced to prove the identity of her husband with the William Tilden credited with service under Colonel Marshall and Colonel Hawes nor to show that the William Tilden, husband of Lucy Tilden, was of or belonged to Stoughton. No additional evidence has since been furnished, although the parties were advised that such proofs were necessary to entitle the claimant to a pension. The original objections therefore remain unchanged.
Kirby.
F. S. Evans for Comr.
Copied by AWS. Jan. 24-'74.

848 Beacon Street, Boston, Mass.
Dec. 22d 1923.
Bureau Of Pensions
Dept. of the Interior. Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
May I ask the great favor of any revolutionary records and pension and family records that you may have in your files concerning one William Tilden who was born 9 Sept. 1755, at Stoughton or Canton, Mass., son of Elijah and Ruth Tilden
According to Mass. papers he served as a private and corporal, perhaps he was killed in war, but I do not think so, as he his wife Molly or Mary disappear from all records. It is possible that William married again in Berkshire County, Mass., or at Palmer, Mass.
Anything that will help to discover this revolutionary patriot will be much appreciated. Thanking you in advance for this great favor,
Believe me, most respectfully,
John W. Linzee