Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 3,789, for Benjamin Thacker, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va
Thacker Benjamin or Thacher
S. 3789
carded
CONTENTS

7365 East Tennessee
Benj Thacher
Res. Co in the State of Tenn who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Tillman of the Dept commanded by Col Dabney in the S. Va time for 1 year
Date of death not in AB
Benjamin Thacher. Records of Mar 10 '02
Inscribed on the Roll of B Tenn at the rate of 40 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 6 day of April 1833 and Dr. M. W. M. Breageale, Stoughton Tenn Arrears to the 4th of March 80.00 Pension, allowance ending 4 Sept 20.00 $100.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Dance Boyd Clerk, Book 8 Vol. 7 Page 63

18820
Benj. Thacher J.
From 1779 prints in number. A40.
Wm. M. Breazale Kingston Roane Co.

BRIEF in the case of Benj. Thacker of Roane County in the State of Tennessee (Act 7th June, 1839.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court.  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 71.  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years. Months. Days. As a Gen.     drafted In 1778 or 9. 6 pr Col. Dabney Capt. Telfer V. Ma.   again 79 or 80 6 " Col. Dabney Capt. Hagen - - - - -  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None.  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Fluvanna Co. Va.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Tradit.  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? No Seal of office but Certified by member of Congress. 
I certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Chas. L. Williams Examining Clerk.

18820
Boys' Shaker

State of Tennessee } On this 24th day of October 1832 Roane County } personally appeared in open court before the county court of Roane County, now sitting Benjamin Shacker a resident citizen of said county aged about seventy five or two years of age who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated He was drafted or taken into service in the militia of the state of Virginia in Fluvanna County in the month of March 1778 or 1779 as near as he can recollect under Capt. Daniel Villiam, Lt. David Lightfoot Col. Dabney commanded the Regiment Armstead was the Major was marched to Richmond where General Vane commanded he remained there and in that vicinity during the term for which he entered the service which was six months when he was discharged by his Capt, but what has become of his discharge he does not know. He returned home and again entered the service in the same manner as on his first entrance under Capt. Anthony Hagan The Regiment was again commanded by Col. Dabney this was in the month of he was marched to the neighborhood of James Town where his Regiment joined the Army under the command of Genl. Cornwallis during this term of his service the battle at James Town was fought, during the battle he was on what was called waggon guard after his term of six months had expired he was discharged

but the lost discharge is also lost or mislaid so that he cannot now produce it when he entered the service he resided in Fluvanna County Virginia and he still continues to reside in Virginia until about seven or eight years ago when he came to the State of Louisiana where he has resided ever since. He has no documentary evidence nor does he know of any person whose testimony he can procure, who can prove his services
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state -
Sworn to and subscribed
The day and year aforesaid
W. H. Davis A.C.
Benjamin his F. Shacker mark
We Thomas Green residing residing in Roan County and John Luggle also residing in said County hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Benjamin Shacker who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be about 70 or 72 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to and subscribed
The day & year aforesaid
W. H. Davis A.C.
Thomas Green John his Luggle mark

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the court as aforesaid that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and serves as he states. And the court further certify Thomas Green & John Luggle who have signed the preceding certificate are creditable persons and residents in the county of Rouss. And the said court further certify that it appeared to them that there was no clergyman com- petent for said applicant to procure the certify to his character & services. —
John Carter.
Wm B. Clarke
M. Lattre
I the undersigned clerk of the county court of Rouss county by my deputy S. S. Purvis, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Benjamin Shacker for a pension
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and private seal, not having an official seal, this 10th day of November 1832
Henry Breazeale clerk G. H. D. [unclear] Henry S. Purvis

certify that Henry Bregall is Clerk of Roan County Court and that Mary S. Purvis is his deputy and that her signature is M. Purvis and that there is her seal of office for the Court aforesaid
February the 25 th 1833
James H. Handerfer. M.C.

October 27, 1933
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BA-J/EL
Benjamin Thacker -S.3789 Nathaniel Thacker -S.6225
Miss Pearl Finley 115 E. Krusen Street Brasil, Indiana
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the records of Benjamin and Nathaniel Thacker, soldiers of the Revolutionary War, of Virginia.
You are furnished herein the histories of Benjamin and Nathaniel Thacker as contained in papers on file in their respective claims for pension, S.3789 and S.6225, based upon their military service in the Revolutionary War.
Benjamin Thacker S.3789
The date and place of birth and the names of the parents of Benjamin Thacker(pensioned Thacker) are not shown in the papers in the pension claim.
While residing in Fluvanna County, Virginia, he enlisted in March 1778 or 1779, and served six months as a private in Captain Daniel Tillman's company, Colonel Dabney's Virginia Regiment; he re-enlisted in 1779 or 1780, and served six months as a private in Captain Anthony Hassen's Company, Colonel Dabney's Virginia Regiment. He stated that he was in the battle of Jamestown where he was on what was called "the wagon guard".
After the Revolution, he resided in Fluvanna County, Virginia, until about 1824 or 1825, when he moved to the state of Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 24, 1832, at which time he was aged seventy-one or seventy-two years and resided in Roane County, Tennessee.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, Benjamin Thacker or Thacher(S.3789), you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following data:
Benjamin Thacker, Certificate No. 7365, issued April 6, 1833, rate $40 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, East Tennessee Agency.
There are no data as to soldier's family.
***** Mathaniel Thacker S. 6235
Mathaniel Thacker was born March 2, 1754, in Fluvanna County, Virginia.
While residing in Fluvanna County, Virginia, he enlisted in 1779 or 1780, served two tours of three months each as a private under Captains Maden and James Adams, and guarded prisoners of Burgoyne's Army at Albemarle Barracks: he re-enlisted in 1780 or 1781, and served three months in Captain Daniel Tilghman's Company, Colonel Dabney's Virginia Regiment.
He was allowed pension on his application executed November 5, 1832, while residing in Albemarle County, Virginia.
There is no reference to wife or children.
In 1832, one Daniel Thacker made affidavit in Albemarle County, Virginia, in support of soldier's claim for pension: no relationship was shown.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, Mathaniel Thacker(S.6235), you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following data:

Nathaniel Shaefer, Certificate No. 4923, issued January 31, 1833, rate $30 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Virginia Agency.
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The foregoing are the histories of the only soldiers named Benjamin Shaefer or Thacker and Nathaniel Shaefer, who served from Virginia, that are found on the Revolutionary War records of this office.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Assistant to Administrator.

Rev May
3789
INVALID.
1933 Oct 27-List. to Miss Pearl Finley Ed
File No. 3789
Benf. Thacher Port. Wash. Line
Act: June 7, 1832
Index:—Vol. A , Page 372
[Arrangement of 1870.]
*Benjamin Thacher Records corrected Mar. 10 '84

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of David Shaker which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? etc. Certified to by member of congress

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No two citizens
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? No
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
No. Certified to by Congress
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 1, 2, 7
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
†QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

GEORGE W. FINLEY, M. D. SUITES 2 AND 3 MURPHY BUILDING BRAZIL, IND.
Oct.-19-1933.
U.S. Pension Bureau, Washington D.C.
Sir:- Please send me a copy of the Revolutionary War Record of Benjamin Thacker Sr. who lived with his family in Fluvanna Co. Va. as late as 1785 and later removed to Glasgow Kentucky, where he died, in April 1818, survived by a widow Nancy Thacker and a family of eleven children. The three older sons, Turner, Abner and Allen were all patriots of the War of 1812, serving from Barren Co. Ky.
Also the Revolutionary War Record of Nathaniel Thacker, also of Va. It is thot Benjamine Thacker and Nathaniel Thacker were brothers, if not, cousins.
Very respectfully,
(miss) Pearl Finley. 115 E. Kruzan St. Brazil, Indiana.