Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8871, for John Lumsden, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
Lumsden, John
S 8871
Carded
CONTENTS

Natt Carolina 16. 30 2
John Lamden 1690 of Amherland in the State of N.G. who was a Mr: of En: in the — comma by Captain — of the Regt com by Col: Stevens in the N G line for 20 months —
Inscribed on the Roll of N. Carolina at the rate of 86. Dollars 66 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 24 th day of July 33. and South Sho d 5.
Hybant. Fayetteville, N.C.
   Arrears to the 4th of March 1880  173.3    Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sept. —  43.35     216.65   
{ Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 183
Recorded by M. D. Price Book E Vol. 6 Page _____

John Lumsden North Carolina NO 1624.
Phy. 11 th
July 11. 1833
Thomas I. Knybant Fayetteville

BRIEF in the case of  John Lumsden  of Cumberland County in the State of North Carolina  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 74 Years,  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     Volunteer In 17 78 1 " " Private Gen. Washington & Gates   5 " " Col Parker } 9 th Regiment Col Bull }    3 " Ensign Capt Forbes } Virginia Troops Lieut Anton & Steel }   Col Stevens Regiment  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? Monmouth, Camden, York Town.  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Valley Forge Pennsylvania?  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? on Roll  Traditional  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Examining Clerk.

I have known Mr John Saunders for Twenty years past and with great pleasure bear testimony to his character for the strictest probity and honesty during that time -
Leicester 5 June 1833
John Charles Posthumous

I hereby certify that I have been acquainted with Mr. Leamden, of the Town of Fayetteville & now an applicant at War Department of the United States for a Pension under the act of Congress of 1832, for 17 or 18 years. That he has during that time & I believe before, always borne the character of a very sober, honest, industrious man, and a consistent professor of the christian religion. That he has acted during that time as a door keeper of the House of Commons of the General Assembly of North Carolina & I have always understood & believed that he has acted as such between 30 & 40 years - with great credit to himself. I had understood also, before the passage of the said act, from sources I could not but believe, & place the greatest confidence in for accuracy as well as for the opportu- nity of acquiring such knowledge, that he had received the said appointment in consequence of his mili- tary services in behalf of the United States in the War of the revolution - & I have the greatest confi- dence in his declaration -
Given at Fayetteville N.C. April 25 1833
Louis D. Henry

State of North Carolina } June Term of the Cumberland County } the Superior Court of the United States for Pleas & Quarter Sessions for said County State Present the Worshipful Ezek Arnold Daniel Baker & John Norriss Justices of said Court.
On the 8 th day of April June A.D. 1858 personally appeared before the Court aforesaid John Lumsden a resident of the Town of Fayetteville County and State aforesaid aged seventy four years who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in addition to his declaration made at March Term last of said Court. That he served as then stated Twelve Months in the Company commanded by Captain John Fontenoy which was attached to the Regiment commanded by Col. Ball & Parker. this he believes was in the year 1778. during this service he was a private soldier. He again entered the service as a volunteer for a man named Kendrick volunteer in the Company commanded by Captain Hickelbfield which was attached to Col. Stevens Regiment. during this service he was appointed Forage Master by Col. Stevens served five Months. that during this service he was in the Battle of Camden South Carolina when Genl. Gates was defeated. this he believes was in the year 17 He again entered the service as a volunteer in Capt. Samuel O. Pettis Company was elected Ensign of the Company and served as such three Months that Capt. Pettis Company was attached

to Col. Winston Regiment this service was performed in the year. 178 making in all  one year and eight months which he served during the Revolutionary War. for which he claims a pension And he further declares that he knows of no surviving comrade who he can now testify as to his service during either of the terms which he performed as above specified. And he further declares that he has no other evidence of his having served as an enlistee for three months as above stated than his own oath. He being elected by the Company of Volunteers to which he belonged and then received a Commission as such from the Court  though  service he performed the service as above specified. And he further states that he has lost or mislaid his Commission so that he cannot find it.
Sworn to & subscribed this day and year aforesaid
John Surdren
Sub J. M. Diapria
The following answers were returned to the interrogatories presented by the War Department.
1st I was born in the County of Hanover State of Virginia in the year 1758
2nd I have no record of my age except in my own Bible which was copied from my Father's Bible by myself
3rd I was living in Louisa County Virginia when I continued to live with the exception of occasional absences in the State of South Carolina & Georgia until the month of January 1790 when I removed to the Town of Fayetteville where I have lived ever since that time.

4 th The 1 st tour of 12 months I was a Volunteer The 2 nd tour of 5 months I was a substitute for a man named McKendrie The last tour of 3 months I was a Volunteer.
5 th I have answered this question as fully as I can in my declaration.
6 th If I received any discharge in writing I do not now recollect it I have already answered the remaining part of this question in my declaration.
7 th I would mention in addition to those who have testified to my character & my reputation as a Revolutionary soldier Messrs Louis D. Henry, Jno McKee Esq Post Master & the Hon Lachlan Bethune I might refer to most of my fellow Citizens.
8 th Do you know of any person who can testify to your services in the army of the Revolution
Ans r I do not.
9 th Have you any proof of your service as Ensign except your own declaration
Ans r I have not.
And the said Court do hereby certify that the foregoing amended declaration was made before them & also the foregoing answer returned the declarant having been first duly sworn.
Essek Anglo S.P. Seal
Dan l Baker S.P. Seal
Colm. S r Smith S.P. Seal

I Daniel McDiarmid Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of Cumberland County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court in the matter of the amended Declaration & Application of John Sunderden for a Pension In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & Seal of Office at Fayetteville this 8 th day of June A.D. 1833. And I do further certify that the accompanying Certificates of Louis D Henry & John M c Rae Esq rs are in the proper of the said Louis D Henry & John M c Rae Esq rs & that full credit is due to their representations
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & Seal of Office at Fay- etteville this 8 th day of June A.D. 1833~
D McDiarmid Clerk

State of South Carolina Cumberland County } ss.
On the 19 th day of July A.D. 1832 personally appeared before a Special Court of the Justices of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for the County of Cumberland & State of aforesaid John Lundden a resident of the town of Fayetteville County & State of aforesaid aged 74 years, who, being duly sworn according to law, doth low his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. That he int ds the annu ty as a Volunteer for twelve months at a place called Red Bank in the State of New Jersey & was placed in the 9 th reg t of Virginia troops commanded by Col. Ball & Col. Parker. The officers of the Company to which he belonged were Capt. Geo. Farhley & Lt. Overton & Steel. That Capt. Farhley was killed at the battle of Monmouth Court House N.J. This was in the year 1778 that he served out the tour of twelve months. After this he served a tour of five months as a private soldier in Col. Shermans regiment which was attached to Genl. Gates division. that he was in the battle near Camden South Carolina when Genl. G was defeated. He then served a tour of three months during which time he bore the Commission of Ensign during which time he was with the Army under Genl. Washington & was at York Town when Lord Cornwallis surrendered.
He hereby relinquishes every Claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not on any the pension roll of any agency in any State or territory.
Sworn to & subscribed the day
& year of aforesaid —
John Lundden
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier & served as he states
Esq d Arnold S t Clair Duncan McRae (J.P.) W. Wm. Low

State of North Carolina
I Daniel M c Diarmia Clerk of the said Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions do Certify that the forgoing Con- tains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of application of John Cummins for a Pension - In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & caused to be affixed the seal of my office & of the said Court Done at Fayetteville in the County afor- said this 19 th day of July A D 1832 & 57 th Year of American Independence -
D m McDiarmia (Clerk)

21st January 1860.
Admiral P. M. T. mo. 57. 66 Emery 3 — 31 $86. 66
Thos. S. Hybatt Fayetteville V.G.

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of John Sumner
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1778 1 — — priv Capt Mullery Col Bell Yorktown N. H. National   5 " " Stafford " Stevens   3 " Ensign " Potts  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d), with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate, is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons --one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
In official claimant he have held a commission not to be required No proof is

March 31, 1939
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BA-J/MCS John Lumsden, S.8871
Mrs. Elmer E. Burruss The Arrows North Garden, Virginia
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your request for information relative to John Lumsden, a Revolutionary War soldier from Louisa County, Virginia.
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, S.8871, based on the military service of John Lumsden.
He was born in 1758 in Hanover County, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown.
While a resident of Louisa County, Virginia, he enlisted in 1778, and served one year as private in Captain John Fauntleroy's company in a Virginia regiment commanded by Colonels Ball and Parker. He enlisted in 1780 and served five months as private in Captain Stubblefield's company in Colonel Stevens' Virginia regiment, was engaged as a forage master and was in the battle of Camden. He entered the service in 1781 and served three months as ensign in Colonel Samuel O. Pettis' company in Colonel Winston's Virginia regiment and was in the siege of Yorktown and at the surrender of Cornwallis.
He was allowed pension on his application executed January 19, 1832, at which time he was living in Fayetteville, Cumberland County, North Carolina, having moved there in January, 1790, from Louisa County, Virginia.
The papers in this claim contain no data relative to the family of John Lumsden.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension of John Lumsden, the name and address of the person to whom it was paid and possibly the date of soldier's death, it is suggested that you address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D.C., giving the following data:
John Lumsden, Certificate #16302, issued July 24, 1833, rate $86.66 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, North Carolina Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

John Lundeen
23145

State of North Carolina Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions Cumberland County. March Term 1833.
Present the Worshipful Esq. Arnold Separk Jackson David Baker. & Mrs. A. Barron Justices of said Court.
On this 5 th day of March A.D. 1833. personally appeared before the Court aforesaid now in person John Saunders a resident of the Town of Fayetteville County and State aforesaid aged 74 years who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his Oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed 7 th of June 1832. That he entered the American Army as a volunteer private soldier for twelve months at a place called Valley Forge in the State of New Jersey & was placed in the 9 th Regiment of Virginia Troops commanded by Col. Ball & Col. Parker. The Officers of the Company to which he belonged were Capt. McFarlin. Lt. Tho. Covington & 1 st Lieut. That Capt. Faulkner was killed at the battle of Monmouth Court House. At. J. this was in the year 1778. that he served out the term of twelve months that after this he returned to Virginia & again entered the service under Capt. Stubbsfield was reached to Hillsborough North Carolina where he joined Col. Stevens Regiment. by whom I was appointed Forage Master, was marched thence into South Carolina & was in the battle near Camden South Carolina where Genl. Gates was defeated, where he entered on this tour it was for three months but at the request of Col. Stevens most of the troops continued for five months this Declarant was among the number. That after this he again entered the service for a term of three months as a volunteer, in a Company commanded by Capt. David O. Pettie during which time he bore the Commission of Ensign. during this service he was at the siege of Yorktown where Lord

Cornwall, surrounded to Genl Washington.
We hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any State or Territory
Sworn to & Subscribed this day of year aforesaid Test. D. M. Diarmid
John Lumsdon
We John H. Pearce a clergyman of the Town of Fayetteville and Samuel Pearce of the same hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Lumsdon who has sworn to and subscribed the above declaration and we believe him to be 74 years of age & that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood in which he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to & Subscribed this day and year aforesaid Test. D. M. Diarmid
John H. Pearce Samuel Pearce
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories presented by the War Department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states and the said Court further certifies that it appears to them that John H. Pearce who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the Town of Fayetteville and that Samuel Pearce who has signed the same is a resident of the same & is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit.
J. Brown J. P. Ladd Essex Arnold J. P. Ladd Judge J. P. Ladd

I Daniel M c Diarmid Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions of Cumberland County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the Original proceedings of said Court in the matter of the application of John Lumsden for a Pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand Seal of Office at Fayetteville this 5 th day of March AD 1833
D M c Diarmid

Fayetteville June 12 th 1833.
Sir
Enclosed I send the papers of John Saunders for a Pension accompanying them is the Certificate of Louis D Henry Esq. Speaker of the House of Commons of North Carolina and also the certificate of John McKee Esq. Post Master of this Town. I also send you the Original Declaration together with his Amended Declaration with the two briefs which were returned with them. I believe that taken together they make a full case under the act of 1832. induct from the high character which the applicant sustains in our community. I cannot doubt that he is entitled to the benefit of the act.
If our Representative in Congress should come to Town within a few days I will procure his Certificate also.
Yours Respectfully
Thos S. Hybark
To J. S. Edwards Esq.
Com. of Pensions

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of
John Lamster further proof or explanation.
which require
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
# No.
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
Yes —
XIV. † If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
Yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For _____ year _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension.”

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
†QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
H The claimants declaration of service for five and three months should be supported by the testimony of witnesses. Is found on the roll for the first reason

213 E. 8 th St.
Chattanooga, Tenn.
Nov. 26 th 1928
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir: — I have a record
of a pension for John Lumsden , aged 82 of Dist. of Fayetteville, N.C., applied for in 1841 — pensioner resided with John Lumsden at that time. Could you find from the records in Washington under whose Command he fought and from what County — he enlisted? I think it was in Virginia. Any suggestion you can give me or any help in getting this record will be most gratefully received.
Very truly yours, (Miss) Jessal Hartzler.

EAST COAST HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION
DR. WILLIAM N. PARKINSON CHIEF SURGEON DR. W. EMORY BURNETT ASSISTANT CHIEF SURGEON
ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA
EXECUTIVE BOARD J. D. RAHNER CHAIRMAN N. W. MIER SECRETARY RALPH BLAISDELL TREASURER
P. O. Box 661, October 26, 1928.
Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sirs:
You have a record of a pension granted one John Lumsden, Revolutionary soldier (File S. U. R. -- 8871). Date of application for pension July 19, 1832. His claim was allowed.
I should like very much to learn the dates of his death, his marriage, and his wife's death, if your records should show these.
Thanking you, I am,
Very truly yours,
J. J. Spencer M. D. J. J. Spencer
P. S.: Please address my P. O. Box.

Copy of letter written to Grandmother Helen P. Lane(or Lain) by Nathaniel Hatch at Washington, July 23rd, 1860. //
Mrs. H.P. Lane(or Lain).
Dear Madam:-
I have just received your note of the 20th inst I do not now find your Power (of attorney) on file. What was your Father's name, and what was the nature of the claim? It has escaped me. I send you another blank Power of Attorney which you can have executed ad and sent to me. You will see by the notice at the top of the Power that most all classes of Claims are suspended until Congress meets again.
Very Respectfully, // Nathaniel Hatch.
(Written on a printed "Bill presented by Hon. Mr. Fenton" in Mr. Hatch's handwriting is the following:- )
"Continued until 2nd Tuesday of December next".

Richmond, Va. May, 3rd, 1915.
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:-
I have been directed to apply to you for the following information.
Have you on record any of the following as having been in the War of the Revolution? I have been told by my mother before her death some years ago that her ancestors fought in this War, and would like to secure confirmation if possible.
Great Grand-father John Lunsden of Fayetteville, Campbell County, North Carolina.
----- Glass Great-Great Grand-father of same neighborhood.
Fontaines, Lanes, or Glass from neighborhood same of Lynchburg or Roanoke County Virginia. and
I am especially interested in the North Carolina records, as I know that my mother told me that her Grandfather and her Great Grand-father were in the Revolutionary War, and I know that the names were Lunsden and Glass. In support of this I have found among some old papers of my Grandmothers (who has been dead for over 40 years) a letter written to my Grandmother in 1860 by Nathaniel Hatch, a copy of which I attach. Accompanying this letter were printed pamphlets - copies of a speech delivered by the Honorable Mr. Fenton of New York on the Revolutionary Claims. This evidence is only evidence that my Grandmother was endeavoring at that time to establish SOME claim, but as she was a woman of high character and of good standing, she certainly would not have been making any "claim" to which she was not entitled. It is probable that the Civil War interrupted the settlement of these claims, and the matter rested there. However - it may be that the application sent by her to Mr. Hatch in 1860 may have been filed, and this may be just the evidence I seek. You know that so many records were burned in Virginia and North Carolina during the war, that it makes it somewhat difficult to trace these matters now. However, I was told that Washington has the full records of the names of the Revolutionary Soldiers, and so you may be able to kindly help me - if you will.
Very Truly Yours, Mrs. B. R. Dudley
2022 West Grace St.
Richmond, Va.

Rooms en Suite, with or without Private Baths
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A. R. Spencer Proprietor J. O. Lumsden Manager
Spear Mansion St. George Street
St. Augustine, Fla.
190
Honorable Commissioner of Pensions- Washington.
Dear Sir:
I would deem it a great favor if you would let me know if John Lumsden of Virginia is on your lists of Revolutionary soldiers and if not advise me where I could find record of his service.
Yours Respectfully Jack Spencer St. Augustine Fla

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
WASHINGTON, D. C.,
WASHINGTON, D. C., John Lunsden In reply to your request for a statement of the military history of Thomas Lunsden , a soldier of the Revolutionary war, you will please find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
    DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     1877 8 12 mos. Pri. John F. Fullerton Ball Parker Pa.   Not stated. 5 mos. " Stubblefield Stearns "   " " 3 mos Ens James Q Pettis Not stated "   
Battles engaged in, Monmouth  Quaden  Forttown la. at  Valley Forge Pa Residence of soldier at enlistment, July 19, 1832. Date of application for pension, Gettysville B.C. Residence at date of application, 74 years Age at date of application,
Remarks :
His pen. was allowed
Very respectfully,
J. H. Donaldson 200 Main St Memphis Tenn.
Commissioner.

Compt Pensions.
REC'D, WAR DEPT. MAY 25 1894
Letter to Hon. Josiah Patterson, H. of Reps. May 25, 1894.
(Form 32)

House of Representatives U. S.,
Washington, D. C.
Dictated.
May 24, 1894.
Secretary of War,
War Department,
Washington, D.C.
Sir:-
I herewith enclose a letter received from Mr. J. R. McDonald, of Memphis, Tenn., who informs me that his grandfather, John Lumsden, was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, Born Nov. 10, 1758, Died, near Fayetteville, N.C., April 21, 1843.
He is very anxious to secure from the Department a certificate or statement that his grandfather's name appeared on the roll of revolutionary soldiers, in order that his daughter, Mrs. Clara J. Ruple, may join the Daughters of the Revolution.
I would be very glad if you would furnish me this information if it is to be had in the War Department.
Very respectfully,
Isaiah Patterson

RECORD DIVISION.
Department of the Interior, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Briefed by L.D.L.
Claim No. _____
Certificate No. _____
Claimant _____
Soldier John Swindler
Service VA
Additional Service Rev. War
No. _____ claim, State records _____, 190_____
No claim, combination records _____, 190_____
REMARKS:
No claim, except J. # 8871

Rosin & Co., Wholesale Auction and Commission 230 MAIN STREET. Hon. Josiah Patterson.,
MEMPHIS, TENN. MAY 14 1894
Washington. D. C.
Dear Sir:-
I hope you will excuse the liberty I have taken in addressing you a letter.
After my very best respects, I will proceed to explain my object in writing.
My daughter, Mrs. Clara. J. Ruple, wishes to join the Daughters of the Revolution, and she requests me to ask you to assist her in finding her Great Grand Fathers name on the roll, kept of those who participated in the struggle for American Independence.
We have the epitaph engraven on his Tomb-Stone, which is as follows; In Memory of John Lumsden a Soldier of the Revolution. Born Nov. 10th. 1758, Died near Fayetteville N.C. Apr. 21 1843.
I think he received his pension up to the time of his death. He was my Grandfather on my mothers side, consequently the Great Grand Father of my daughter Mrs. Clara J. Ruple. Any assistance you may give us in the matter will be highly appreciated. An early answer is respectfully requested.
Respectfully Yours, J. R. McDonald.

5 Jan 1939
MRS. ELMER ELLSWORTH BURRUSS THE ARROWS NORTH GARDEN, VIRGINIA
February 15, 1939.
Department of the Interior Bureau of Pensions Washington D. C.
Gentlemen:
Some years ago, mother wrote you for information regarding her great grandfather, John Dumoden , a soldier of the Revolutionary War. You sent her complete information, but as I now

want to join the D. A. R., it is necessary for me to know the volume and page from which this was copied.
Will you supply this information?
John Runoden, of Louisa Co., Virginia enlisted in 1778 and served for 1 yr. under Captain John Fauntleroy and Col's Ball & Parker. (Age 20)
Enlisted 1780 - 5 months under Captain Stubblefield & Col. Steers.
Appointed Ensign 1781 under

Captain Samuel Pettis and Col Minton.
If your information is more complete, I would like to see it, but would espe- cially like to have a volume or page from which it is taken.
Very sincerely yours, (Mrs) Bessie H. Dudley Burruss. Mrs. Elmer Ellsworth Burruss. North Garden, Virginia.
(See next Page)

Can you tell me how long 7 John Lunsden received his pen- sion. Would appreciate any information.
Sincerely, Bessie D. Burruss.

June 7 Hist M. O'Donogh Memphis Div.
FS.
1922 Jan 29. Hist. to J. S. Spencer V.L.M.
1915 May 10 Hist. to Mrs. B. R. Dudley V.L.M.
1929 May 9. Hist. to Dr. J. F. Spencer Tuck 1929 May 15. Hist. to Miss Jessie Holtzclaw Tuck
1931 Feb. 24 Hist. to Mrs. M. D. Collins correspondence in few. cln. of Samuel Cochran, W. 280 W.L.S.
1939 Mar. 31. Hist. to Mrs. Elmer E. Burns (W.C.)
Reorgan
887 INVALID.
File No.
887
John Townsend Briv Rec. War
Act:
June 7th 1832
Index:—Vol.
102
Page
230
[Arrangement of 1870.]

February 24, 1931
Mrs. N.D. Collins Fairburn Georgia
Rev.& 1812 Wars Section MCS/eel
Dear Madam:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.8871, that John Lumsden was born in 1758, in Hanover County, Virginia.
While a resident of Louisa County, Virginia, he enlisted in 1778, and served one year as a private in Captain John Fauntleroy's Company, in Colonels Ball and Parker's Virginia Regiment.
forage Master He enlisted in 1780, and served five months as a private in Captain Stubblefield's Company in Colonel Stevens' Virginia Regiment and was in the battle of Camden.
subsequent He enlisted in 1781, and served three months as ensign in Colonel Samuel O. Pettis' Company in Colonel Winston's Virginia Regiment and was at the surrender of Cornwallis. at Yorktown
enlist He was allowed pension on his application executed January 19, 1832, at which time he was living in Fayetteville, Cumberland County, North Carolina, where he had moved in January, 1790.
There are no data relative to wife and children.
The above is the history of the only soldier named John Lumsden found on the Revolutionary War records of this bureau.
Very truly yours
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner.

May 15, 1929
Miss Jessie Holtzclaw 213 E. 8th Street Chattanooga, Tennessee
Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.8871, it appears that John Lumsden was born in 1758, in Hanover County, Virginia.
While a resident of Louisa County, Virginia, he enlisted in 1778, and served one year as a private in Captain John Fauntleroy's Company, in Colonels Ball and Parker's Virginia Regiment.
He enlisted in 1780, and served five months as a private in Captain Stubblefield's Company in Colonel Stevens' Virginia Regiment and was in the battle of Camden,
He enlisted in 1781, and served three months as ensign in Colonel Samuel O. Pettis' Company in Colonel Winston's Virginia Regiment and was at the surrender of Cornwallis.
He was allowed pension on his application executed January 19, 1832, at which time he was living in Fayette-

ville, Cumberland County, North Carolina, where he had moved in January, 1790.
There are no data relative to wife and children.
Respectfully,
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner.

May 9, 1929
Dr. J.J. Spencer P.O.Box 661 St. Augustine, Florida
Sir:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.8871, it appears that John Lumsden  Lunsden was born in 1758, in Hanover County, Virginia.
While a resident of Louisa County, Virginia, he enlisted in 1778, and served one year as a private in Captain John Fauntleroy's Company, in Colonels Ball and Parker's Virginia Regiment.
He enlisted in 1780, and served five months as a private in Captain Stubblefield's Company in Colonel Stevens' Virginia Regiment and was in the battle of Camden.
He enlisted in 1781, and served three months as ensign in Colonel Samuel O. Pettis' Company in Colonel Winston's Virginia Regiment and was at the surrender of Cornwallis.
He was allowed pension on his application executed January 19, 1832, at which time he was living in Fayette-

ville, Cumberland County, North Carolina, where he had moved in January, 1790.
There are no data on file relative to wife and children.
Respectfully,
E.W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner.

...ation as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- on file in this Bureau. John Samson Ser. File 8871
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. • RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     1778 1 yr. Pvt. John Fannitlerow Col. W. Parker Va.   1780 6 mos. Pvt. Stubblefield Stevens   1781 3 mos. Ensign Samuel P. Pettis Winston  
Battles engaged in, Camden>Camden  Surprise of Cornwallis Residence of soldier at enlistment, Lowland Co. Va. Date of application for pension, July 10 1842  Third dist. cl. Residence at date of application, Littleville Cumberland Co. N.C. Age at date of application, born in Fauquier Co. Va. in 1758 Remarks: