Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 31414, for Charles Thurman, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
Thurman, Charles
S. 31414
CONTENTS

Kentucky
Charles Sherman
of Cumberland in the State of Kentucky who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain G White of the Ky. Inf y commanded by Colonel Gilson in the Virginia line, for the term of five years from February 17 99 to 17
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of Eight Dollars per month, to commence on the 21 st day of Mar 1801 and
Certificate of Pension issued the 20 th of Augt 1802 and sent to M rs Martha King Bushville Ky
the Roll on day of 1802 and notification sent to at Pension commencing on the of 1802
Amount due on 4th of Mar 1802 80 June annual etc Sept " 40 120
Revolutionary Claim, Acts March 18, 1818, May 1, 1820.
Recorded Book 2 Vol 9- Page 62
See letter Sept. 29 1832 to M r King Susp d see letter to P. Agt. 6 Sept. 1830 Susp d removed: see letters to P. Agt d Hon. S. Williams, 6 Jan. 1836- see S ts to J. Ficklin Esq r May 4 1836 do. to same P. Agt d 21 May 1836- Dead. see let to Hon S Williams H.R. June 14. 1836.

Re. 28 Dec 1830. State of Kentucky
Warrington County Court Set. November Term 1820
On the 13 th day of November 1820 being Court day, personally appeared in open Court Charles Thurman of said County aged about 62 years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the provisions of the Act of Congress of the 18 th of March 1818 & 1 st of May 1820.
That the said Charles enlisted on the day of February 1777 for and during the war against Great Britain in the State of Virginia, in the Company commanded by Captain Elisha White, and was removed to Capt. John Beaufort's Company and from there to Capt. John Fleming's Company, in Colonel George Gipsand Regiment in the line of the State of Virginia or the Continental establishment, that he continued to serve in said Corps, until General Washington moved with his forces toward Little York, and his march with Washington to Little York under a Col. Robney - That he continued faithfully the service of the United States until the end of the war - and was honorably discharged at Little York in the month of April 1783.
That he was in the Battles of Monmouth, Brandywine, Germantown & the siege of York, Cornwallis's defeat; that he has no evidence of a written Character, in his possession or power to prove his services, that it can be proven by persons now living.
And in pursuance of the Act 1 st May 1820 He solemnly swears that he was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18 th of March 1818 that he has not since that time, by gift, sale or in any manner, disposed of any property or any part thereof with intent thereby to diminish it, and bring myself within the provisions of the said Act of 18 th Mar. 1818 - That he has not nor has any person in trust for him, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to him, nor have I any income whatever.
He states that he is labourer, that poor age & infirmity and particularly from an eruption he is incapable of working but little, that his family consists of himself & two Children - the eldest a daughter the younger a daughter also aged about 5 years.
The foregoing is a true copy of the pension declaration of Charles Thurman of record in my office.

In testimony of which I have hereto set my hand & the seal of my office, this 8 th day of December 1838
M. King Clerk of the Cumberland County Court.
Sir, I do hereby certify that
Granville Bowman the preceding justice of the peace in the said County, do certify that Milton King whose name is subscribed to the foregoing Certificate & copy is the Clerk of said Court, that his attestation is in due form of law, and all his official acts are entitled to credit.
Given under my hand this 8 th of Dec r 1838
Granville Bowman JP

Pinckneyville Ky 28 July
Free
Rev. J. H. (18) 11/11/42
Hon.
Lewis Cass
Secretary of War Washington City
$80 per ann. pay in advance

Burksville Ky.
July 24 th 1832
Sir
Under the late act of Congress of 7. June 1832 Supplementary to the act of 15 May 1828 in relation to pensioners and in accordance with the instructions of the War Department (now before me) as the agent for, and at the special request of Mr. Charles Thurman, who was inscribed on the Pension list, roll of the Reannuity agency at the rate of $8 per month, on the 25 th of February 1832 do relinquish the pension Certificate or his further claim to a pension under said Certificate whereunder He now makes application for a pension under the provisions of the act of 7. June 1832 - His services, time, place & names of his officers are fully made known in his papers on your department - my present place of residence is Burksville Cumberland County Kentucky - forward the new Certificate and draft as soon as convenient to my agent Milton King - I will add. I have received no money sent under the aforesaid Certificate
I have the Honor to be your obl. Servt.
I presume a draft will be forwarded for the pay from 4 th March 1832 say to the 4 th March 1832 & after that period to be drawn as is usual. this at least Mr. Thurman desires should be the course that the department may adopt in this case.
Charles Thurman By M. King
Hon. Secy. War Secy. War

Kentucky Cumberland County, Ss
This day Charles Thurman a resident citizen of this county made oath before me the undersigned a justice of the peace in and for said county: that previous to, on the 18 th March 1818 and ever since and is at this time, wholly insolvent and entirely in indigent circumstances, that he has not since the said 18 th of March 1818 by gift, sale or in any manner, disposed of any property of any kind, with intent thereby to diminish it, as to bring himself within the provisions of the Act of Congress of 18 th March 1818 entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and Naval Service of the United States in the Revolutionary War". That he has not, nor has any person in trust for him any property or securities, contracts or debts due to him, nor has he any income whatever
Given under my hand this 11 th day of August A.D. 1831
Harold S. Sainfley J.P.
State of Kentucky, Cumberland County, Ss
I Milton King clerk of the county court of said county do hereby certify that Harold S. Sainfley esquire, whose signature is subscribed to the above affidavit of Charles Thurman, is and was at the date thereof, acting in the capacity therein mentioned legally appointed & duly qualified, that his attestation is in due form of law, and his official acts are entitled to credit
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Given under my hand and the Seal of my Office in Burksville this 11 th day of August 1831 M. Kling
State of Kentucky Cumberland County Set
This day Charles Thurman a resident citizen of said county came before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace, in and for said county and made oath that he did on the 13 th of November 1820 being county court day in open court make oath to his service as a soldier in the Revolution- ary war, and James W Taylor the attorney whom he employed to attend to the business drew up a declaration after he had made his statement to the court & as it appears from said statement or declaration, I was trans- ferred from Col o George Gibson's regiment to that of Col o Dabney which is a mistake not founded on fact, that he continued in said Gibson's regiment till he was discharged, that he confided this business to said Taylor & has not since Nov 1820 ever seen the statement until presented with a letter from the War Department of date 13 th Sept r 1831, showing the discrep- ancy between the statement of the witness proving my service, and that of my own. Said Thurman verily believes the mistake to have or- iginated with said Taylor; and that the business was confided to Colonel Francis Johnston whom he expected was attending to it until a few years since that time, application was made to him for the Deed and since that time over

he has been constantly endeavouring to procure his pension. I worn to before me this day by said Charles Thurman. Given under my hand this 25 th day of February 1832
A. King J.P. &c.
Kentucky Cumberland County Set I Milton King Clerk of the County Court of said County do certify that Alfred King esquire whose name is subscribed to the above affidavit of Charles Thurman is & was at the date thereof an acting Justice of the peace, in & for said County, that his official acts are entitled to credit and his attestation is in due form. Given under my hand & seal of office in Burksville this 25 th day of February 1832 M. King
Burksville Ky.
July 24 th 1832
Sir
Under the late act of Congress of 7 th June 1832 Supplementary to the Act of 15 th May 1828 in relation to pensioners and in accordance with the instructions of the War Department (now before me) as the agent for, and at the special request of Mr Charles Thurman, who was inscribed on the pension list, roll of the Kentucky Agency at the rate of $8 pr month, on the 25 th of February 1832

do relinquish the pension certificate or his further claim to a pension under said certificate herewith enclosed
He now make application for a pension under the provisions of the Act of 7 th June 1832. His service time place & names of his Officers are fully made known in his papers on file in your department. My present place of residence is Burksville Cumberland County Kentucky. forward the new certificate & draft as soon as convenient to my agent Milton King. I will add I have received not one cent under the enclosed certificate
I have the honor to be
Your Ob t Servant Charles Thurman
By
M King
I presume a draft will be forwarded for the pay from 4 th March 1831. say to the 4 th March 1832, and after that period to be drawn as is usual. this at least Mr Thurman desires should be the course that the Department may adopt in his case
Hon Lew Leap Secty War
I certify that this is a true copy of the original Dan Boyd

November 9, 1939
Mrs. Samuel R. Edington 1012 Penn Place Tucson, Arizona
BA-J/MCS Charles Thurman, S.31414
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your request for information relative to Charles Thurman of Cumberland County, Kentucky, who served in the Revolutionary War, and William Thurman of Cumberland County, Kentucky, who served in the War of 1812.
The data which follow were taken from papers on file in the pension claim, S.31414, based on the military service of Charles Thurman.
The date and place of birth of Charles Thurman and the names of his parents are not shown.
Charles Thurman enlisted at Richmond, Virginia, in February, 1777, served as private with the Virginia troops under Captains Elisha White, John Davenport, John Fleming, Fleet and Lemon, and Colonel John Gibson, was in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth, and at the siege of Yorktown and was discharged in April, 1783.
Charles Thurman was allowed pension on his application executed November 13, 1820, at which time he was living in Cumberland County, Kentucky, and was about sixty-two years of age.
In 1820, the soldier referred to his two daughters, the younger about five years of age, but he did not give their names. One John R. Thurman was living in Cumberland County, Kentucky, in 1830, and was dead in 1835, and in 1836 one William Thurman of Burksville, Kentucky, stated that he was administrator of the estate of Charles Thurman who died April 9, 1836; the relationship of John R. Thurman and William Thurman to the soldier, Charles Thurman, is not shown. There are no further data relative to the soldier's family.

The War of 1812 records of this office fail to show a claim for pension on file on account of the service of a William Thurman of Cumberland County, Kentucky.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

31 414 Rev INVALID.
1919 June 5. History to Mrs Kemp Malone 5715 Blackstone Ave - Chicago Ills. Ills. (see his letter via John Emerson, Va.) W. 8694
File No. 31, 414
1939 Nov. 9. List to Mrs. Samuel R. Edington
Charles Thurman
Rev Rev
Act: June 5 39
Index: - Vol. 2 , Page 431
[Arrangement of 1870.]

20419
Kentucky
Charles Thurman
of Cumberland Co in the State of Kentucky who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain E. White of the Regiment commanded by Colonel Geo. Gibson in the Virginia line, for the term of six years from February 1777 to April 1783
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of eight Dollars per month, to commence on the 25 day of February 1832
Certificate of Pension issued the 10 of March 1832 and sent to Milton King Esq. Burkesville Ky
Arrears to 4th of March 1832 $2. 17 Semi-annual all'ce ending 4 Sep 1832 48
$50. 17
{ Revolutionary Claim, Acts March 18, 1818, and May 1, 1820. }
Recorded Book D. Vol 9 page 61
[Signature]
to Boyd to copy Oct. 16 '34

Susp c See letters to Hon. T. P. Moore, H. R. and the Agent, Lexington , May 14. 1824.

Charles Thurman, Kentucky Roll Act June 7. 1832.
Be pleased to say up to what time and at what rate his stipend was last paid?
President's Office June 14. 1836
To the 4th. of March 1834, at $80. per annum.
3 rd Aud t Office June 14. 1836

Chas. Thurman
4 papers
unforeseen
and
James Smith Thurman was an English-born writer & reformer.
1816-1888

1828 papers to be filed with AS
O.W. Inno
# 31,404
C

Charles Thurman - Rob- Va. line -
2 nd George Gibson Continental
Kentucky
Not satisfactory
In File No 31.414

Oct 23 1829
The Statement of Philip Lawson upon Oath. I became acquainted with Charles Thurman when I was a boy but a youth I saw said Thurman as a soldier or private in the Continental army of the Revolution and to the best of my recollection he belonged to the Continental line of the Virginia line and I also state when I saw him in said line it was about the year 1778 I also further state that to the best of my recollection I saw him again in the Continental line aforesaid in the latter part of the year 1780 or in that year given under my hand this 13th day of October 1829. Philip Lawson
Sworn to before me an acting Justice of the peace in and for Cumberland County Kentucky given under my hand this 13th day of October 1829 Harold J. Saffey S.P.L.

Hous of Rep. June 14, th 1836
S. L. Edwards Esq.
Sir
on this morning I recd the enclosed letter directed to you. you will please give the information asked and enclose me the necessary blank forms H. C.
Yours respectfully
Shenod Williams

Ans d . June 14. 1836
Hon. e J. L. Edwards Com. t of Pensions 3 Washington

Hon. S. L. Edwards
Burksville Ky May 31 st 1836
Sir
On the 9 th of April last Charles - Shurman of Cumberland County Kentucky, a private pensioner of the U. S. died - And the County Court at the May term just appointed me Administrator of his estate. I understand the pay of his pension was suspended, and again reinstated, but before any money was drawn, after his restoration, he died - You will be pleased therefore to furnish me with a state- ment of the time & amount due to him and send me the necessary forms to enable me to draw the money, and if to be drawn at Lexington - then give orders there to that effect -
Respectfully
William Shurman " - - - - -

Washington City, October 1834. Received from the Commissioner of Pensions the original papers in support of the pension claim of Charles Thurman of Kentucky. The papers are four in number P. S. Longue myn

Re: 28 Dec 1830.
2317
Washington City Dec 23 rd 1830
In I lay before you the paper of Charles Thurman; for a pension I will only remark that Mr William Smith & John R. Thurman are men of high integrity and are intitled to the utmost confidence in their statements
Respectfully
Howe S. D. Ingham Nathan Gauthier
7280 - 2157 - 2840, 3621, 4054.

Hon. J. D. Ingham Nov. 28 Dec. 1880.
Burksville Ky Dec. 9 th 1880
Secretary of the Treasury
The additional testimony in relation to the claim of Charles Thurman a surviving soldier of the Army of the Revolution, was sent to the War Department, under the belief that his original declaration of 1828 was on file in that office, but a letter from J. L. Edwards states that the declaration was handed to the Hon. Dr. Johnson in 1820 of which fact the applicant was ignorant, till the reception of Mr. Edwards's letter a few days since addressed to me.
I herewith enclose to your office, a copy of the original declaration, and also the additional testimony, (being that which was forwarded to & returned from the War Department) for the purpose (if found satisfactory) of placing Mr. Thurman on the pension list, under the act of 15 th May 1828 - allowing pay from 3 rd March 1826. Hon. Nathan Falker is personally acquainted with Mr. Thurman. He has been unfortunately postponed in his claim, by having had his papers passed thro. so many hands.
I have the Hon. to be Sir, your & c. Servt.
Milton King

Printville Conn Ex 18th Charles Thurman free
#31.414
Secretary of War Washington City
ans? Sept. 29 1832

Burksville Ky
Sept. 18 th 1832
A few days since I received a Pension Certificate in favour of Charles Thurman dated 20. Aug st 1832 signed by John P. Kirtland Acting Secretary of War for $80 per annum - This was signed by the Dept. in lieu of one surrendered under act of June 1832 and that one gave $8 per annum during life.
It is desired to know the cause of the difference between 80 & 76 dollars per annum.
Be pleased to answer, and if an error correct it. As yet I have rec d no answer in relation to Scott & Pruitt. I have the Honor to be your O bl . Serv t . who were rejected under act of 1828 and renewed under instructions of Dept. under act June 1832.
M. King

Kentucky Cumberland County Set. This day Charles Thurman a resident Citizen of this County, made oath before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in and for said County; that previous to, on the 18 th of March 1818 and ever since and is at this time, wholly insolvent and entirely in indigent Circum- stances, that he has not since the said 18 th of March 1818 by gift, sale or in any manner, disposed of any property of any kind, with intent thereby to defraud or diminish it, as to bring himself within the provisions of the Act of Congress of 18. March 1818 entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War," that he has not nor has any person in trust for him, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to him, nor has he any income whatever. Given under my hand this 11 th day of August A. D. 1831
Harold P. Saufley J.P.
State of Kentucky Cumberland County Set. I Milton King Clerk of the County Court for said County, do hereby Certify that Harold P. Saufley esquire, whose signature is sub- scribed to the above affidavit of Charles Thurman is and was at the date thereof, acting in the capacity therein mentioned, was legally appointed & duly qualified, that his attestation is in due form of law, and his official acts are entitled to credit.

Given Under my hand and the seal of my office in Burksville this 10 th day of August 1831
M. King Notary Public
[Faint, mirrored text from the reverse side of the page, likely bleed-through from the original document.]

Payments to be made on the 4th of March and 4th of September in each year, by the Agent for paying pen- sions, at Lexington Ken.
Witness. — —
Recorded by Wm Lloyd Beall Clerk, in Book D Vol. 9 th page 11. — —

WAR DEPARTMENT.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I Certify, That, in conformity with the Laws of the United States, of the 18th March 1818, and May 1st 1820, Charles Furman late a Private in the Army of the Revolution Virginia Line — is inscribed on the Pension List, Roll of the Kentucky Agency, at the rate of — Eight — dollars per month, to commence on the twenty fifth — day of February — one thousand eight hundred and thirty two.
Given at the War Office of the United States, this tenth day of March — one thousand eight hundred and thirty two.
Lewis Cass. Secretary of War.
Examined and countersigned,
J L Edwards

State of Kentucky, Cumberland County Set. Nov term 1820 On this 13 th day of November 1820 personally appeared in open court, being a court of record with power of fine &c) Charles Thurman of the county aforesaid aged about 62 years, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provisions of the acts of Congress of 18 th of March 1818 & 4 th May 1820.
That the said Charles enlisted for and during the war on the day of Feb- ruary 1777 in the State of Virginia in the company of Captain Elisha White, and was removed to Capt. John Bevenport's company, from thence to Capt. John Fleming's company, in the regiment commanded by Col. George Gibson (or Gibson) in the line of the State of Virginia, in the continental establish- ment, & marched to the North in the said Regiment, that he continued to serve in said corps until General Washington moved with his forces towards Little York, when he was per- mitted to attach himself to Colonel Saliney's regiment and under the com- mand of Lieut. Col. Samuel Fleet to march to Little York
That he continued faithfully in the service till the end of the war and was honorably discharged at Little York in April 1783 in Virginia. That he was in the battles of Monmouth, Brandywine, German Town and the

Siege of Cornwallis at Little York: that he has no evidence of his said services, unless it be in the recollection of some persons living
And in pursuance of the act of 1 st May. 1820 I do most solemnly swear, that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18 th March 1818 that I have not since that time by gift, sale or in any manner, disposed of my property, or any part thereof, with a secret intent thereby so to diminish it, as to bring myself, within the provisions of the said act of 18 th March 1818, that I have not, nor has any one for me in trust any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me nor have I any income whatever, no real estate, no personal estate, save clothing & bedding worth $25.
The said Charles Thurman is a farmer, from age & infirmity and particularly from an irruption, he is incapable of doing but little in the way of labour.
Given under my hand and the seal of my office in the town of Burkesville, this 28 th day of April 1831. Milton King Clerk
Kentucky Cumberland county ss
On this day personally appeared before me the undersigned, being a justice of the

peace in & for the said county. William Smith and John R Shurman of said county and made oath to the following effect. That Charles Shurman aged about 70 years, now of this county did serve in the Revolutionary war against Great Britain, from the State of Virginia, near four years, that he enlisted in the city of Richmond in the year 1778 and served under Capt. John Fleming & Col. George Gibson till the termination of the War and was discharged in 1780. That they each were well acquainted with said Charles Shurman before his enlistment, and have been ever since, that they each frequently saw him in service, & now feel entirely confident that he is the same man, that he is in reduced circumstances in life, and they know him to be wholly insolvent, without any species of property whatever and far advanced in years.
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 11 th day of September 1830
Att
Wm Smith
Dr Bowman J
John R Shurman
I hereby Certify that both the affiants, Smith and Shurman, are disinterested, credible honest & worthy men, both far advanced in life & their Statements are entitled to credit.
Given under my hand as a Justice of the peace as aforesaid this 11 th day of September 1830
Dr Bowman
J. J. C. City
State of Kentucky. Cumberland county ss I Milton King Clerk of the county

Court for the County aforesaid do certify that the foregoing affidavits of Smith & Shurman & the certificate of Mr Bowman are truly copied from the originals, and that said Bowman was at the date thereof acting Justice of the peace in & for said county duly com- missioned and qualified, that his acts are & ever entitled to credit
Given under my hand & the Seal of my Office in Burkesville this 28 th day of April 1881 M. Kling
Kentucky Cumberland County ss I Harold P. Pansley the pre- iding justice of the peace for said County do certify that M. Kling Esq. whose signature is subscribed to the above certificate, is clerk of the County Court afo d that his official acts are entitled to credit
Given under my hand this 28 th April 1881 Harold P. Pansley J.P.

Philip Lawson of the County of Cumberland & State of New Hampshire do hereby certify that I have the knowledge - which Charles Thomson now of the said County & State gives in the year 1778 & 1779 & which to the best of my knowledge & belief he said Thomson enlisted in the Revolutionary army in the Continental line and that from what I heard from others served at during the war till its termination this affair would further state that from the best of his knowledge & belief he belongs to the Continental line of Virginia line commanded by a Col. Gibson given under my hand this 14 th day of Dec. 1879 Philip Lawson
Subscribed & sworn to before me Harold P. Saufley an acting Justice of the peace in and for Cumberland County given under my hand this 14 th day of Dec. 1879 Harold P. Saufley

B H Emerson for C Thurman - 843.
Rec'd 31 January 1829.
Barkersville Ky January 17 th 1829
Sir
To the Secretary of Treasury of the United States mail Revolutionary Claims

Pinksville January 17 th 1829.
Sir Inclosed you will find additional evidence in relation to Mr Charles Thumans claim as a private in the army of the revolution going to prove that his actual service which entitles him to pay according to the late act. in relation thereto. —
Yours H. Emerson

Solomon Prewett 19147
Charles Thurman
Rev. 20th act
1832
Hn. S. Williams
HR
Sup. 2. the Hn. S. Williams HR
Hn. S. Williams HR No 330 Cla. Thm

To the Parker-ville Ky Camberland county Honble Secretary of War December 4 th 1838
We the undersigned citizens of Camberland county Ky are informed that Charles Thurmon of the aforesaid county has formerly recd a pension semiannually and that it has been for some cause or other not known to us suspended We in the character of Petitioners do request Your Honor if consistent with the duties of Your Office and Rules to re- instate Mr Thurmon and place him again on Your rolls as a pensioner. We have for several years and some of us for many years past have been acquainted with said Thurmon and know he has allways been reputed to have been a Revolutionary soldier and have no doubt his claim for a Pension is just. We have been also well acquainted with his Witnesses for many years Philip Lawson William Smith & John Thurmon and have no hesitation in saying that they were highly respectable Men (Smith & Thurmon are accused of perjury) Truth and their Oaths are entitled to as much credit as any men in our acquaintance.
Ingram Nease Harold P. Hensley
Green Paxton
Emm Webb
William Patterson
Edward Webb
John C. Webb
Daniel Trabue Jr. gave up at the same
J. Miller
James Beaman
E. J. Bullock
James Haggard
M. B. Bowles
J. W. Alexander
A. J. Rogers
Thomas Carr

State of Kentucky } Cumberland county } ss
Personally appeared before me M. L. Stoner a justice of the peace in and for said county. John M. Alexander Jr. A. G. Waggener & James D. Donly. Respectable persons of known & truth and made oath that they had been for a long time well acquainted with William Smith John Sherman & Philip Lawson. the witnesses to Charles Thomas' Application for a Pension. and that the Oaths are entitled to credit (or rather every thing) that they state on oath and intitled to the fullest credit. and further state that said Smith Sherman & Lawson has for many years lived in this county and have always stood high honorable fair & respectable and believe that anything that they stated on oath respecting Charles Thomas as a soldier may be relied on. and they further state that John Sherman & William Smith are deceased Given under my hand this 5 th day of January of December 1835. the deponents Signed the names in my presence A. G. Waggener James D. Donly
M. L. Stoner J.P.C.C
I Michael L. Stoner a justice of the peace in for Cumberland county. certify that all the persons on the foregoing petition are respectable men and citizens of this county mostly intimate acquaintances and I believe each person signed his own name M. L. Stoner J.P.C.C

State of Kentucky Cumberland county S t ,
J. Milton King Clerk of the court of Cumberland county certify that Mr L Stone is a Magistrate as to the foregoing and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine in testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed the seal of my office and subscribed my name this 5 th day of Dec r 1835
(M c Kee case)
By James Wagg and D c

Act 7 Sept 1828. An act for the further declaration of the purposes of obtaining the benefit of an act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the Army of the Revolution approved on the 15th May 1828.
I Charles Thumner and of the County of Cumberland and of the State of Kentucky do hereby declare that I enlisted in the Continental line of the Army of the Revolution for and during the war and continued in its service until its termination at which period I was a private in Captain Lemon's Company in the
13th Regiment of the Virginia line commanded by Col. Gibson who I then thought was by the name of George Gibson but in refreshing my recollection feel certain that I was mistaken as to his Christian name but am certain that he was the same Col. Gibson who commanded as a Continental Col. and the same man as the one whom I certainly know served as a Major and whose name was John Gibson. I further declare that I served first in the State line and served for months and afterwards enlisted in the aforesaid Regiment and also declare that I afterwards received

as Certificate for the reward of eighty Dollars to which I was entitled under a resolve of Congress passed the 15th of May 1778 and I further declare that I was not on the 15th day of March 1878 on the pension list of the United States Charles his Thurman mark
Before me John Emerson a justice of the peace in the County of Cumberland and State of Kentucky personally ap- peared this day Henry Patterson and Ingram Kurn of the said County who did severally make oath that Charles Thurman by whom the foregoing declaration was subscribed is generally reputed and believed to have been a private in the Army of the Revolution in manner as therein stated. Witness my hand this 6th day of June 1826
J. H. Emerson J.P.

I John R. Thurman do state upon oath that Charles Thurman enlisted in the Continental line of the army of the Revolution and during the war and continued in the service until its termination. He was at the battle of Brandywine and at the siege of Philadelphia. He was discharged at the end of the war and received a pension from the State of Pennsylvania. He died in the year 1816.
I Moses Webb do state upon oath that Charles Thurman who makes the foregoing declaration for the purpose of obtaining the benefits of an act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the army of the Revolution appeared on the 15th day of May 1828 and he said he is acquainted in the year 1777 while the said Thurman was in the army of the Revolution and according to the best of his knowledge in 1777 and that he the said Thurman was attached to the Continental line and to the Pennsylvania Key-Stone Battery and that he was present at the battle of Brandywine and that he continued in the service until the end of the war.  Moses Webb

State of Kentucky Cumberland County ss
I Milton King Clerk of the County Court for the County aforesaid in the State of Kentucky Do certify that John M. Gwynn before whom the foregoing affidavit was sworn was at the time an acting justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid and duly empowered to administer Oaths - In Testimony whereof
I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court this 24 th day of March August A.D. 1829 -
M. King D.
3 State of Kentucky Cumberland County ss
I Francis Rowan The Senior Justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid do certify that Milton King whose signature is to the above Certificate is and was at the time of executing the same Clerk of the Cumberland County Court and that his Certificate is in due form of law that full faith & credit is and ought to be given to all his Official Acts as Clerk aforesaid Given under my hand this 17 th August 1829 Francis Rowan J.P.

Rev 17 Feb 1830.
State of Kentucky Cumberland County ss
I John R Thurman of the County and State aforesaid states on oath that Charles Thurman now of the same place was a soldier in the army of the Revolution that he was first mustered into the service as a private among the Virginia State troops in the year 1775 and after serving some time as such he then enlisted as a private in the continental service for and during the war and to my certain knowledge continued in the continental service until the termination thereof he belonged to the 13th Virginia Regiment of the said Continental line commanded by Col Gibson the name of the captain under whom he served I well knew but am not at this time able to give his name but very clearly and distinctly recollect as I have stated that he was in the service among the State troops and after serving some time among them he did enter in the continental line and did serve according to the terms of his enlistment during the war and according to the best of my information knowledge and belief he served faithfully and at the close of the war received his discharge I am unable from my recollection to give the time or place of his enlistment or discharge - Sworn and subscribed before John R Thurman me a Justice of the peace for Cumberland Co Ky Feb 17 1830

State of Kentucky Cumberland County ss I, Henry Webb late a private of the army of the Revolution now of the County and State aforesaid State on Oath that he became acquainted with Charles Thurman now of the County of Cumberland and State of Kentucky aforesaid in the year 1777 - at which time said Thurman was in the service as a private in the continental line and from the best of his affiant's knowledge information and belief said Thurman enlisted in the said continental service for and during the war that he knew said Thurman well while they were in the army together and that he believes said Thurman served as a faithful soldier according to the terms of his enlistment until the full termination and close of the war said Thurman belonged to the 13 th Virginia Reg t of the Continental line commanded by Col o Gibson - as well as this affiant's memory serves him from the great lapse of time since.
Sworn to and subscribed before me a justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid this day of 1829

Moses Webb
Pension
Additional evidence

Rec d 31 January 1829
State of Kentucky Cumberland County
Evidence in support of the claim of Charles Thurman late a private in the Army of the Revolution. Under an act entitled an act for the relief of certain surviving Officers and soldiers of the Army of the Revolution Approved 15 th day of 1825
( 40 Kentucky Cumberland County, Moses Webb late a private in the Army of the Revolution now a resident in the County & State aforesaid on his Oath doth state that in the year 1777 he became acquainted with Charles Thurman of the County aforesaid (whose declaration has been as he is informed forwarded to the Treasury Department Under the aforesaid act of Congress) and that he said Thurman then belonged to the Virginia Regt of the Continental line Commanded by Col o George Gibson he saw him and knew him to be in actual service in said Regt and did belong to the continental line and would further state that according to the best of his recollection knowledge information and belief the said Thurman served during the war that being the term for which he was enlisted as his affair was then informed and believed.
Jan y 16 th 1829
M c G. Webb

I John Thurman of the County of Cumberland and State of Kentucky do state on Oath that in the year 1777 Charles Thurman now of the County and State aforesaid enlisted as a private in the Army of the Revolution - and served as such in the Virginia Regt. of the Continental line for and during the war, said Regt. was commanded as well as now recollect by Col. George Gibson, his enlistment was for three years & afterward during the war of 1812 he served as well as now recollect. Jan'y 16 th 1829
State of Kentucky Cumberland County for this day Morris Webb and John Thurman personally appeared before me John M. Emerson One of the Commonwealth's justices of the peace in and for the County aforesaid duly empowered to administer Oaths - and severally made Oath that the statements contained in each of their affidavits made by them are true to the best of their knowledge. Given under my hand this 16 th day of January 1829 J. M. Emerson J.P.

Kentucky Cumberland County Set. Milton King Clerk of the County Court for said County, do hereby Certify that John M. Emerson esquire, whose signature is subscribed to the foregoing Certificate, is and was at the time and date thereof, an acting Justice of the Peace in & for said County, duly Commissioned and legally qualified, that his attestation is in due form of law, and his official acts are entitled to full faith and Credit.
Given under my hand and seal of Office, in the Town of Parkersville, this 17 th day of January in the Year of our Lord 1829
M. King 38
Kentucky Cumberland County Set. Granville Bowman the eldest & presiding Justice of the Peace in & for said County, hereby Certify that M. King whose signature is subscribed to the above Certificate, is & was at the time and date thereof, acting in the Capacity therein specified, that his attestation is in due form of law, & his official acts are entitled to full faith and Credit. Given under my hand at Office in Parkersville, this 17 th Jan y 1829
Granville Bowman J.P.

Pens Charles Thurman
No 31. 414
for Fiklin PM free
J L Edmonds Esq
Resigning agent and Oct. 1. 1832 Washington City

Lexington Ky 24 th Sept 1832
Sir,
On application to day for the Pension of Charles Thurman granted on the 20 th Augt. last no orders has been received at Bank. The Certificate is stated to have been recorded by J H M Blair Page 62 Book 2 nd the letter not plain vol 4 th . Please to give the proper orders for the payment of this pension as
Yr obt Servt Jos F. L. Klein
P.S. An endorsement appears on the Certificate as follows which I suppose to be a mistake. "Payments to be made at Frankfurt Ky by the Pres d U S Br. Bank"

For the purpose of obtaining the benefit of an act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the Army of the Revolution approved on the 15 th of May 1828. I Charles Thurman of Cumberland County and the State of Kentucky do hereby declare that I enlisted in the Continental Line of the Army of the Revolution in the year 1777 - for and during the war and continued in its service until its termination - at which period I was a private in Captain Hite Company in the 14 th Regiment of the Virginia Line Commanded by Colo George Gibson - and I also declare that I afterwards received a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars to which I was entitled under a resolve of Congress passed the 15 th of May 1778 and I further declare that I was not on the 15 th day of March in the year 1828 on the Pension list of the United States
His Charles Thurman mark

State of Kentucky Cumberland County Sct Before me John M. Emerson a Justice of the peace duly empowered to administer oaths in the County of Cumberland and State of Kentucky Personally appeared this day David Beall and Samuel Davis of the said County who did severally make oath that Charles Thurman by whom the forego- ing declaration was subscribed is generally reported and believed to have been a private in the Army of the Revolu- tion in manner as therein stated Witness my hand this 30 th day of July 1828 J. M. Emerson J.P.
I Milton King Clerk of the County of Cumberland in the State of Kentucky do Certify that John M. Emerson before whom the foregoing affidavits were sworn was at the time a Justice of the peace and duly empowered to administer oaths In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County this July 1828

Bucksport Nov. 3 rd
Pensioner
free
Person
Secretary of War Washington City
Person office Nov 16 th 1830

Res 28 Dec 1830. Kentucky Cumberland County ss.
Pension
On this day personally came before me the undersigned being a Justice of the peace in and for said County, William Smith and John R. Thurman of said County, and made oath to the effect following. That Charles Thurman aged about Seventy years, now of this County, did serve in the Revolutionary War against Great Britain, from the State of Virginia, near four years that the said Charles Thurman enlisted in the City of Richmond and served under Captain John Fleming Heala Geo. Gipson that he served till the termination of the war and was discharged in the years 1782 or 1783. That they each were well acquainted with said Charles Thurman before his enlistment, and have been ever since, that they feel entirely confident that he is the same man, that he is in reduced circumstances in life, and as they know it to be true, that he is entirely insolvent, without any species of property whatever and far advanced in years.
11th day of September 1830
William Smith John R. Thurman
Attest Gr. Bowman. R.P.
I hereby certify that both the affiants Smith & John R. Thurman are disinterested, Credible, honest and worthy men, both far advanced in life, and their statements are entitled to Credit. Given under my hand as a Justice of the peace in & for the County of Cumberland Kentucky this 11th day of September 1830
Granville Bowman R.P.
Kentucky Cumberland County I Milton King clerk of the County Court for said County do certify that Granville Bowman whose signature appears to the above Affidavit is now an acting Justice of the peace in & for said County at the date thereof, that all his official acts are entitled to Credit.
Given under my hand & seal of my office in Burkittsville this 4th day of November 1830 M. King

REVOLUTIONARY CLAIMS.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Aug 29 1828
Charles Thurman, of Cumberland in the State of Kentucky, has applied to the Secretary of the Treasury for the benefits of the act, entitled "An Act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the Revolution," approved the 15th of May, 1828. He states that he enlisted in the Continental line of the army of the Revolution, for and during the war, and continued until its termination, at which period he was a private in captain Fleet's company, in the 14th (Col. Gilford's) regiment of the Virginia line; and that he received a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars, provided by the resolve of the 15th of May, 1778; and further, that he was not on the 15th day of May, 1828, on the pension list of the United States, and that he has received as a pensioner since the 3d of March, 1826, nothing.
The Third Auditor is requested to report how far the several statements are corroborated by the records in his office.
By order of the Secretary, A. Jenkins.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
THIRD AUDITOR'S OFFICE, 4. September 1828
It appears by the records in this office, that a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars has been issued to Charles Thurman in the
It further appears that Charles Thurman is now on the pension list of the any agency, and has been so since the 3d of March, 1826, at the rate of dollars per month.
The name of Charles Thurman cannot be found among those of the Virginia line, to whom certificates for the gratuity of eighty dollars were issued - Peter Hagner

General Land Office 16 th Decr. 1828
The name of Charles Thurman does not appear in the list of Warrants issued by the Register of the Land Office at Richmond Ky.
G. W. G. H. S. S. Commissioner

Revolutionary Claims.
Under the act, entitled "An act for the relief of certain surviving Officers and Soldiers of the Army of the Revolution," approved 15th May, 1828.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
11 September 1828.
The annexed paper, relating to the claim of Charles Thurman , under the abovementioned act, is respectfully referred to the Secretary of War, with a request that he will be pleased to cause me to be informed whether it appears, by any records in the War Department, that the claimant has received, or is entitled to receive, the bounty in land granted by Congress for service in the Continental line of the Army of the Revolution.
Richard Roth.
The Hon. the SECRETARY OF WAR.
init - V. Linc - not rel
War Department
Bounty Land Office
19 th Sep r 1828.
Charles Thurman, a private of the Virginia Line, is not returned, as entitled to land from the U. States, nor has a warrant issued for him.
C. Stephens

March 9 1832
Pensylvania Office 3

State of Kentucky Cumberland County Set.
This day Charles Thurman a resident citizen of said County, Came before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in & for said County, and made oath that he did on the 13 th of Nov. 1820 being County Court day in open Court, make oath to his service as a soldier in the revolutionary war, and James M. Taylor the attorney whom he employed to attend to the business, drew up a Declaration after he had made his Statement to the Court; and as it appears from said Statement or Declaration, I was transferred from Col o George Gibson's Regiment to that of Col o Dalbey's - which is a mistake not founded in fact, that he continued in said Gibson's Regiment till he was discharged, that he confided this business to said Taylor, & has not since Nov. 1820 ever seen the Statement, until presented with a letter from the War Department of date 13 th Sept. 1831 showing the discrepancy between the Statement of the witnesses proving my service & that of my own. Said Thurman verily believes the mistake to have originated with said Taylor, and that the business was confided to Col o Francis Johnston whom he expected was attending to it, until a few years since, application was made to him for the pension and since that time he has been constantly endeavoring to procure his pension - I swear to be foregone this day by said Charles Thurman. Given Under my hand this 23 rd day of February 1832.
A. King J.P. etc.
Kentucky Cumberland County Set. I Milton King Clerk of the County Court for said County do Certify that Alfred King esquire, whose name is subscribed to the above affidavit of Ch s Thurman is at the date thereof, an acting justice of the peace in & for said County, that his official acts are entitled to Credit & this attestation is in due form. Given under my hand & seal of office in Burksville this 23 rd day of February 1832.
M. King

No. 17 Feb 1830.
State of Kentucky of Cumberland County ss
Charles Hurman now of the County and State aforesaid An applicant for the benefit of an act entitled an act for the relief of certain officers and soldiers of the Army the Revolution approved 15 th May 1828 - States on oath that he enlisted in the Army of the Revolution in the continental service for and during the war as set forth in his Declaration now on file in the department to which it was forwarded some time since - and served as stated therein but as it respects the time of his discharge he is not able to give the month or year though he this affiant would more positively state that he received his discharge at the time when Genl Washington resigned his command of the Army and when he gave orders for the disbanding of the troops composing the whole continental line who enlisted for and during the war and this affiant would state that it is now upwards of forty years since he got his discharge and from so great a lapse of time it could not be expected or required to state the very year or month he obtained his discharge but knows it was when the whole continental Army was disbanded and the time our great Genl Washington was
leaving the Army and going home I was present at the time of his discharge this 17th day of Feb 1830 J. B. Plunkett

John Scott of the County of Cumberland and State of Kentucky states on oath that in the year 1775 he became acquainted with Charles Thurman now of the same place at which time he was a soldier in the army of the Revolution and was then in the Continental service and belonged to the 13 th Virginia Regt of said Continental line commanded by Col o Gibson - and according to the best of my information knowledge and belief he was enlisted for and during the war and as a private in said Continental line continued to serve faithfully until the termination of the war I belonged to the 5 th Virginia Regt - commanded by Col o Parker and saw S d Thurman frequently and knew him well during the time he was in the service from my acquaintance to the close of the war when we were discharged from service - Sworn to and Subscribed J. M. Emerson J.P. before me this 8 th day of Dec r 1829

Solomon Pruett of the County of Cumberland and State of Kentucky States on Oath that he became acquainted with Charles Thurman now of the County and State aforesaid while this affiant and said Thurman were in the Army of the Revolution together said Thurman was a private and belonged to the 13 th Virginia Regt commanded by Col d Gibson of the the continental line that from the best of this affiant's knowledge information and belief said Thurman enlisted as a private in the continental service for and during the war and served as such faithfully until its termination he this affiant saw him said Thurman frequently while in the service together and were both in the battle of Brandy wine & other places together Sworn to and subscribed before me this 18 th day of Dec r 1829
his Solomon Pruett mark
J. M. Emison J.P.

Charles Thurman
Pension Decon.
Cumberland Ky.
8/13 880.
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C. Thurman. re: Aug. 19. 1828 ack'd 29.
ms. A. 9. 2. 10. 20

Kentucky Cumberland County Set J Miller King Clerk of the County Court for said County do Certify, that John M. Anderson whose signature is subscribed to the several foregoing Certificates is and was at the time and dates thereof, acting in the Ca- pacity therein specified, duly Commissioned & legally qualified, that his attestations are in due form of law, and his official acts are entitled to full credit.
Given under my hand and seal of Office in the Town of Clarksville this 2 nd day of August 1828
M. King J. Miller King

State of Kentucky Cumberland County set
I John R Thurman do state on oath that Charles Thurman the person who makes the foregoing declaration. Did in the year 1777 enlist as a private soldier in the Revolutionary army for three years first, and afterwards during the war, and that he served at least five years in the Continental line - but do not now recollect the name of his Captain or Colonel or number of the
Regiment to which he belonged -
Subscribed and sworn to before
me a justice of the peace in
for the County, on this 30th his day of July 1828 John R Thurman marks
J M Morrison J.P.
William Smith states on oath that he is well acquainted with Charles Thurman who makes the foregoing declaration and was acquainted with him in the Revolutionary army and believe he enlisted in the year 1777 for three years and served that length of time at least as a private, but do not now recollect the name of his Capt or Colo or the number of his Regt or to what line he belonged.
Wm Smith
Sworn to and subscribed before me a justice of the peace in & for the County on this 30th day of July 1828 J. M. Morrison J.P.

No. 23 Nov 1829 (G. in the wills 12/7 Nov 1829)
In England are the affidavits of Philip Lamm & John Scott to substantiate more fully the claim of Charles Thompson as a Revolutionary soldier in the Continental army if after receiving the furnished evidence the will be yet other evidence wanting you will be so good as to inform him wherein he has failed upon what points you deem it necessary for more evidence with respect to you Punksville Ky J. B. Emerson Cumberland Cty

Greencastle Ky. 22 nd Oct 1899. County Ky.
To John Scott of the County & State aforesaid do State upon Oath that I know a certain Charles Thurman of Greencastle a citizen of the County & State aforesaid who is now trying for a pension for services as a soldier in the Revolutionary Army and that my first acquaintance with said Thurman was in the year 1781 at the Siege of York and I also state to the best of my recollection that he was commanded by a Col. Gibson who commanded the 13 th Virginia Regiment of the Continental line and from all the information I received from persons that he enlisted in the year 1776 in the State line and afterwards in the year 1778 th enlisted in the Continental line for & during the war and I further state that I saw him at the close of the war at Little York Virginia in the year 1782 in the month of I think February given under my hand this 22 nd day of October 1899 John + Scott, mark
Sworn to and subscribed before me a justice of the peace in and for Greencastle County Kentucky given under my hand this 22 nd day of October 1899 Harold J. Saffey Justice

Bureau of Revolutionary and 1812 Records Washington, D.C.
Superintendent:
Do your records show that Charles Thurman of Kentucky, probably Cumberland County received a pension for Revolutionary service? If so, kindly give me the data contained in the record. I am especially interested in all references to residence, parentage, his own family, death etc. Where he gave service is important.
Do the records for War of 1812 show that William Thurman of Cumberland County ever received a pension for his services in that war? If so, the same data would be appreciated.
Very truly yours,
Elizabeth Thurman Edington Mrs. Samuel R. Edington 1012 Penn Place Tucson, Arizona
October 21, 1939

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Charles Thurman a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. S. 31414
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Feb 1777 Pvt Abisha White Geo. Gibson Pa   John Swainport   John Fleming   Fleet   Lemon  
and served till the close of the War
Battles engaged in, Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth & at Siege of York. Residence of soldier at enlistment, out at Richmond Va. Date of application for pension, Nov 13 1820. His claim was ab. Residence at date of application, Humbertson Ky. Age at date of application, about 62 yrs.
Remarks: In 1815 he referred to 3 daughters the youngest about 5 years old, there is no further data as to his family and file
Respectfully,
Commissioner.
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