Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 6036, for Jacob Knouts, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Knouts, Jacob Elizabeth
A.6036
CONTENTS

14340 New York
Jacob Knouts
of Herkimer in the State of N.Y. who was a private in the Com y commanded by Captain Treadwell of the Reg t commanded by Col Willit in the N. York line for 9 Months.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 30 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 th day of May 1833. and sent to John Roth Stark - Herkimer Co - N.Y.
Arrears to the 14th of March 1833. 60. — Semi-annual allowance ending 4 th Sep r 1833. . . 15
Sub Total $75.00 Pension
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by George Taylor Clerk. Book 6 Vol. 4 Page 23

22610
Jacob Knouts Herkimer co New York
John Roth Stark Herkimer New York
ms. A. 1. 6. 20. 22-23

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Jacob Knorets, Herkimer Co New-York,
   Period when the service was rendered Duration of the claimant's service Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Enlisted 1782 9 private Capt. Vance Col. Willett Maj. Scott Fort Plain Johnstown 66 Greenbush N. York Greenbush tradition numerous witnesses from the service as set forth.  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.
M. D. no A. 44

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this _____ day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county; and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
J. B. Mansfield

Jacob J Knauts
Declaration

State of New York } Herkimer County } on the eleventh day of October 1832 person-
ally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Herkimer now sitting Jacob * Knowles of the Town of Stark Herkimer County State of New York aged sixty six years of age who being first duly sworn according to Law deposeth that on his oath before me and make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed the Seventh day of June 1832 do make the following declaration to wit that he entered in the services of the united States under the following named officers and served as herein after stated
This deponent further saith that he was born in Town of Canajoharie Tryon County now being known as the Town of Mineral Montgomery County State of New York on the twenty first day of May One thous and Seven Hundred and sixty six and says that he has a family record with him in which his age stands recorded
This deponent further saith that at the age of fifteen years of age he first entered in the service by enlisting into the State Troops as a private of the State of New York some time early in the Spring thinks about the first day of April 1782
This deponent further saith that he enlisted in the war of the Revolution as

private as foresaid for the term of nine months Says that he was enlisted into Capt Pierce Company under the immediate command of Colonel Morrenus Willet
This deponent further saith that this aforesaid enlistment took place in City of Albany in the year 1782 as before stated and after passing muster before a man named  named  Boyerback appointed for that purpose I took the oath of allegiance to my Country
This deponent further saith that when he entered first into the services of the united States that he resided in the Town of Green Bush opposite of Albany and after being so enlisted, passed muster, and took the oath of allegiance as aforesaid, I was placed under the immediate com- mand of the then Quorum Master Matthew Scratter as a writer for said Quorum Master
This deponent further saith that the Regiment in which he enlisted was comm- anded by Colonel Morrenus Willet Major Ben or Benjamin Scuter Adjutant General Quorum Master Matthew Scratter and my Company in which I belonged was command- ed by Capt Pierce
This deponent further saith that the afore- said Regiment lay at Albany after my enlistment about one month and then as this depon- ent thinks three Companies out of said Regim- ents to which I belonged, to wit Capt Pierce Company Capt Henny's Company & Capt Young's Company  attached to  Johnstown

Capt Youngs Company Marched to Johnstown in County of Montgomery there I remained with the afore said Company at Johnstown aforesaid about one Month from thence these three Companies Marched to Stonerabea in said County and the baggage belonged to these aforesaid three Companies were sent to the Mohawk River and were Carried to Fort Plain in a Boat and I this deponent was sent by the officers Commanding these three Companies to guard these baggages and see them safe delivered to Fort Plain, and after arriving at Fort Plain with these baggages aforesaid they were Carried to Stonerabea where these aforesaid Companies lay there I joined these Companies again and we lay or Remained at Stonerabea at a Post there Called Fort Parris about two Months, the Commanding officers at this post were Major Ben Trotter So Called Major Adjutant General Quartermaster Mathew Trotter Capt Lierse &c then this Small Regiment Marched to Fort Plain and I this deponent Rem ained there with the Regiment aforesaid Untill Some time in November  December of said year then was sent by Quartermaster Mathew Trotter to Albany and ad tended to some of his business there until said Trotter arrived at Albany aforesaid there Remained under the Command of said Mathew Trotter Untill the full End of my Nine Months term of Enlistment and after my term of Enlistment had expired I Called on Capt Lierse then being in Albany for a discharge he there the said Capt, consented to discharge me and did give me a Verbal discharge at the same time I required of said

Since a Written discharge he answered me that it was immaterial that a verbal discharge was as good as any
This deponent further saith that he was born in the present Town of Winden, Montgomery County in the year 1766. Says that he has a Record of his age with him in which his age stands Recorded
This deponent further saith he when he first entered the Service of the united States he Resided in the Town of Green Bush opposite of Albany Says that he lived since the war of the Revolution in the present Town of Winden Montgomery County and from thence removed to my present place of Residence in town of Mark about fifty years ago Dutchess County State of New York
This Deponent further saith that he never was drafted nor was he a volunteer or a Substitute - Says that the Regular officers under which I served were the following to wit Colonel Willet Major Ben Sciter so called Adjutant General Second Regiment of Artillery Troth Capt Lease & Lieutenant Shunton Ensign Kelton & Says that he Received a Written discharge
The deponent further states that the following persons are to my personally known and Residency my immediate neighbourhood who can testify to as the deponent saith character for veracity and their belief of my services as a soldier in in the war of the Revolution to wit John Roth Nicholas Dick Ludwig Springer Cornelius Haught

This deponent further states that he never received any annuity or pension from or under any Law providing for the officers and soldiers of the Revolution. Hereby Relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on any pension Roll of the agency of any State.
1 Subscribed in Open Court Oct 12 th 1832
Julius C. Nelson Clerk
Yacob de Kneavitz

State of New York
Herkimer County
We Richard Shimmel of The Town of Works in the county of Herkimer State of New York and John Duesler of the Town of Danebier in the County of Herkimer State aforesaid Hereby Certify that we are well acquainted with Jacob Knouts who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be Sixty Six years of age and that he is reputed in his neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn to in Open Court
Oct-12 th 1832
Julius C. Nelson Clerk
Richard Shimmel
his John X Duesler Mark
and the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the Interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states, and the said Court further certifies that it appears to them that Richard Shimmel who has signed the preceding

Affidavit is a resident of the Town of Stark in the County of Herkimer, and that John Duester who has also signed the same, resides in the Town of Danube in said County are both credible Persons and that their Statements are entitled to Credit
I Julius C. Nelson Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the County of Herkimer do hereby Certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Jacob Knouts for a pension
In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and seal of Office this 12 th day of October 1832
Julius C. Nelson Clerk

State of New York
Montgomery County ss: On this 7 th day of February 1838 personally appeared before David F. Lania a Judge of the Montgomery County courts Elizabeth Knouts a resident of the Town of Stark, in the County of Herkimer and state aforesaid aged Seventy Six in the month of September last who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 14, 1836. That she is the widow of Jacob Knouts who was a private in the army of the Revolution, and was before his death on the pension list of the United States at the rate of Thirty Dollars per annum - and she further declares that her said husband was to her knowledge a soldier in the army of the Revolution, but she is unable from old age and infirmity now to state the time he served as such soldier and she relies upon the evidence on file in the war office together with the evidence hereto annexed. She further declares that she was married to the said Jacob Knouts in the month of September One thousand Seven hundred & Seventy Eight that she was so married by the Rev d Christopher Wheatley of the County of Herkimer & said state and that there has been no record kept of said marriage by said Wheatley or any other person, that can now be found on the most diligent search. That her husband the aforesaid Jacob Knouts died on the 22 nd day of June 1833. and that she has remained a widow ever since that period, as will more fully appear by reference to the proof hereto annexed.
I swear to, and subscribed, on the day & Year above written before -
D. F. Lania Judge of Montgomery County courts
Elizabeth Knouts mark
State of New York
Montgomery County ss: I certify that I am personally acquainted with the above named Elizabeth Knouts that she is respectable & entitled to full credit. That she is unable to attend court to make her declaration by reason of old age & infirmity, & that she made her mark because she could not write - February 7. 1838.
D. F. Lania Judge of Montgomery County courts

State of New York
Montgomery County ss: John P. Ecker of the town of Starks in the county of Herkimer & State aforesaid being duly sworn says that he was about six years old on the 5 th July last as informed or believed that he has known the applicant marked in the annexed declaration and her husband therein named Jacob Knouts from his infancy - that this deponent was present at the marriage of the said Jacob Knouts & the said Elizabeth Knouts & that said marriage took place at the time mentioned in the annexed declaration - and that this deponent saw them married as aforesaid & that they have lived together as man & wife ever since that period up to the day of the death of the said Jacob Knouts & that said Jacob died on the day mentioned in said declaration - & that the said Elizabeth has remained a widow ever since the death of the said Jacob & yet is a widow - further says not -
I swear this 7 th day of February 1838 - before me - D. F. Taria J.P. of Montgomery County courts
his John P. + Ecker mark
State of New York Montgomery county ss: I certify that I am personally acquainted with the above named John P. Ecker that he is reputable & entitled to full credit as a witness - & that he made his mark to the above affidavit because he could not write - Feb. 7. 1838. D. F. Taria J.P. of Montgomery County courts -
State of New York
Montgomery County ss: James Knouts being sworn says that he resides in the town of Starks in Herkimer county & State aforesaid that he is a son of Jacob Knouts & Elizabeth Knouts named in the annexed declaration of Elizabeth Knouts - that this deponent has made diligent search in the church records kept by the within named Christopher Whiting the Minister who is said to have married his said Father & Mother and that no entry of their marriage is to be found in said record & that it appears from said records that the baptism of children was regularly kept but that the record of marriages was not regularly kept & that this deponent & Albert Lintner who now has said records in his possession carefully examined the same - that in fact no marriages appear in said records - & this deponent further says that he is well satisfied from inquiry & search that there is no family record to be found of said marriage of the said Jacob & the said Elizabeth further says not -
James Knouts
I swear this 7 th day of February 1838 -

before me - D. H. Lucia Judge of Montgomery County Courts
State of New York Montgomery County ss. I certify that I am personally acquainted with the above named James Knouts that he is respectable & entitled to full credit as a witness - February 7. 1838 -
D. H. Lucia Judge of Montgomery County Courts
State of New York Montgomery County
Clerks office ss
I do hereby certify that David H Lucia Esquire whose name is subscribed to the jurats of the foregoing affidavits & certificates was on the day of the date of the same a Judge of the County Courts of the said County and duly authorized by the laws of the said State to administer Oaths &c and that his signature subscribed to the same is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of Office this 10 th day of February 1838
A. J. Bonner Clerk
3314
Elizabeth Knouts
Receivers for Pension

22610 Jacob Thront
Declaration
The above Department will direct their proceedings to John Both of Stark, Berlin county - To Van Horns Will Post office, Stark

State of New York } Washington County } on the twentieth day of February 1833 person-
ally appeared in Open Court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas now sitting of the County of Washington State of New York Richard Shumard of the Town of Stark Washington County State aforesaid a Witness who being duly sworn Clerk Depose and say that in the Month of May next he this deponent will be fifty eight years of age and that he has been personally acqu- ainted with Jacob Knapp before said Jacob had enlisted in the troops of the State of New York and before said Jacob had re- signed his residence to Green Creek opposite of Albany and Ever since
This deponent further saith that in the year 1782 he this deponent personally recollects of seeing said Jacob Knapp and Rudolph Richard Haenen at Fort Plain as enlisted soldiers in under the immediate command of Colonel Marmus Willet but the other inferior officers belonging to said Regiment does not recollect their names as they being strangers to this deponent
This deponent further saith that in the year 1782 he this deponent lay and was stationed at Fort Plain a distance

about two Miles from Fort Plain and that some time in the latter part of the Summer or fall of said year he this Deponent frequently went to Fort Plain and that he saw said Jacob and said Rudolph Pickard Stationed there and under the command of a number of officers commanding a Regiment of State troops then Stationed there
This Deponent further saith that he further recollects that at the time when said Jacob Knapp & Rudolph Pick- ard lay and were Stationed at Fort Plain as aforesaid he here heard it mentioned and it was further understood that said Jacob Knapp and said Rudolph Pickard had enlisted and was enlisted in the Regiment of State troops then laying at Fort Plain and that said Jacob & Rudolph had enlisted in Albany early in Spring of said year and that the Regiment to which they had listed had marched to Schenectady & Montgo- mery County from there to Utica and from there to Fort Plain where this Depo- nent and said Jacob & Rudolph had met and conversed on the subject of their enlistment
This Deponent further saith that said Jacob Knapp remained at Fort Plain as aforesaid until some time late in the fall of said year when said Jacob was sent to Albany as this Deponent

Under oath by said Rudolph Pickard then remaining with the Regiment at San Felipe as aforesaid and further saith not
Sworn and subscribed in Open Court Today
Richard Shimmel
13. 1833 Julius V. Nesen Clerk

State of New York Jefferson County
I, Rudolph Pickard of the Town of Le Ray County of Jefferson State of New York being duly sworn doth Depose and Say that he was well acquainted with Jacob Knouts (now of Town of Stark Herkimer County) in the war of the Revolution and ever since and that this deponent and said Jacob Knouts in company and at the same time enlisted in the war of the Revolution in the City of Albany some time early the Spring of the year one thou- sand seven hundred and eighty two or there this deponent thinks and believes to be true said Jacob Knouts and this deponent enlisted into Capt. Lierse company under the immediate command of Colonel Ma- nus Willet, and immediately after our enlistment said Jacob Knouts and my- self passed muster and took the oath of Allegiance - This deponent further saith that said Jacob Knouts and this deponent enlisted in the war of the Revo- lution as aforesaid for the term of three Months at Albany aforesaid and that the Regiment to which said Jacob & this deponent belonged was commanded by the following officers to wit, Colonel Manus Willet, Major Ben. Suter Adjutant Sonda Rauter Master Mathew Frotter and Capt. Lierse - This deponent further says that said Jacob Knouts and this deponent were placed in the same company under the command of Capt. Lierse

and remained in Said Company from the day of our Indictment together every day into the service of the United States in the war of the rebellion - aforesaid Untill some time late in the fall of Said year when we were stationed at Fort Plain when Said Jacob Knapp was sent to Albany by one of the commanding officers on business this, this deponent thinks took place on  shortly before Said Jacob Knapp was Indictment expired
This deponent further saith that after Said Knapp and this deponent had ended as aforesaid they in company during their term of Indictment rendered the following services to wit. Left Albany under the command of Capt Pierce and attached to Schuylerville and thence to Johnstown Hudson and from thence to Stonerose in Said County from thence to Fort Plain as aforesaid and as this deponent thinks some time in the month of November Said Jacob Knapp was sent to Albany as aforesaid and further saith not
Subscribed and sworn this 21 st of January 1883 before me J. M. Knight First Judge of Sess. County Court
Adolph his Puckard mark
State of New York Suffolk County
3 rd P. I. Polyknack Block of Said County do certify that Calvin M. Knight before whom the above of Jacob Knapp to have been taken was at the date of the same first

Judge of Jefferson County Courts and duly authorized to take the same, and further that I am acquainted with his hand writing and widely believe his signature to the same is the proper hand writing of the said Judge witness my hand and Seal of Office this 21 day of January 1833
P. Burchard Clerk

State of New York } ss Herkimer County }
Personally appeared before me the undersigned Justice of the peace in and for the County of Herkimer of said Daniel Van Horn who being duly sworn depose and saith that he was personally acquainted with Rudolph Pikett the person purports to have taken an affidavit before Calvin McWright first Judge of Jefferson County on the 21 day of Janu- ary 1833 as said appears by an affidavit taken before said Judge by said Rudolph Pikett and properly authenticated by the clerk of said County of Jefferson County
This deponent further saith that he has been personally acquainted with the aforesaid Rudolph Pikett for more than thirty years past and that said Pikett in the opinion of this deponent is now of seventy years of age and that said Rudolph Pikett stands reput- ed as long as he has been known to this deponent as a Soldier of the war of the Revolution, that said Pikett for many years past drew a pension from Govern- ment for years past as an Invalid
This deponent further saith that he has been intimately acquainted with said Rudolph Pikett as above stated until within two years when said Pikett removed to the County of Jefferson and that said Pikett was and had been a person reputed in the neighborhood where he had formerly

Resided as a person of good moral character and that Great Reliance might be placed on his testimony
D. Van Horne
I the above named Comptroller Genl. Dyck Van Horn - Justice of the peace &c do certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Daniel Van Horn he being a Resident in my immediate Neighbour- hood and that said Daniel Van Horn is a person of good moral character and Reliance may be placed on his testimony and I the said Justice of the peace aforesaid do further certify that I am well acquainted with the within named Rudolph Pickard and have observed the affidavit made and Subscribed to by the above mentioned Daniel Van Horn before me, do say that after a personal acqu- aintance with the said Rudolph Pickard for many years past do fully concur and agree with the statement made by said Daniel Van Horn in the affidavit above Subscribed and sworn to before me - Subscribed and sworn this 6 th day of Jany 1833 before me Compt. Genl. D. Van Horne Justice

State of New York Schoharie County } ss
Personally appeared before me the undersigned Colonel Cornelius Van Dyck Van Horn one of the Justices of the peace in and for the said County Jacob Brants who being duly sworn depose and says that with a view of amending his former declaration with an affidavit he this deponent doth depose and say that there was no clergy in the town where he resided neither is any clergy living to this deponent's knowledge who can testify to the deponent's age
This deponent further says that he has no documentary evidence, show- ing the services of this deponent in the war of the Revolution
This deponent further saith that the first Judge of Jefferson County was to wit Calvin McWright before whom the affidavit of Rudolph Pickard was subscribed and sworn to heretofore annexed neglected to certify as to the character of Rudolph Pickard for truth and veracity but to amend the breach he this deponent thought proper to annex a special certificate which will be found hereto annexed subscribed and sworn to by Donald Van Horn and also a special certificate by Colonel Cornelius Van Dyck Van Horn Esqr concerning and corroborating with the statement made by said Donald Van Horn
This deponent further saith that

Should the Department require this deponent to procure the certificate of Calvin Mc Knight first Judge of the County of Jefferson before whom Said Rudolph Pickard was sworn and testified as to the services of this deponent in the war of the revolution would be a hardship in the extreme to this deponent, as it would bring this deponent into the necessity of traveling from the residence of this deponent at in town of Stark Herkimer County to the County of Jefferson a distance of One hundred and ten Miles
This deponent further Saith that he served in the war of revolution as a private soldier in the New York State troops and in that service I served and did actual duty the term of Nine Months for which this deponent claims a pension.
This deponent further Saith that the aforesaid Rudolph Pickard is the only person to the deponent's recollection that is now living who can testify to this deponent's service for the war of the revolution and that the above Rudolph Pickard specified in the above affidavit is the same Rudolph Pickard who has subscribed and sworn the affidavit hereto, annexed before Calvin Mc Knight first Judge of the County of Jefferson which said affidavit was properly authenticated by the Clerk of the County of Jefferson as will appear by a reference to Said

Affidavit herewith presented and herunto annexed
Subscribed and Sworn J. A. C. B. B. B. This 30 th day of January 1833 before Me Rev. T. E. Van Horn Justice
State of New York Dutchess County } ss
I, Julius C. Nelson Clerk of the said County do hereby certify, that Cornelius T. E. Van Horn Esquire before whom the preceding affidavits purport to have been sworn, was, on the day they were date one of the Justices of the peace in and for said County, and duly authorized by Law to act as such and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and readily believe his Name subscribed to the said Certificates to be his proper hand writing and Signature
In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office this 13 th day of February 1833 - Julius C. Nelson Clerk

3314 Feb. 16.
ms. July 38 36 sec.
Hon John G. Edwards Commission of Pensions Washington D. C.

Hon J. L. Edwards Sir
Gauleyham February 10. 1835
Enclosed I send You pension papers in behalf of Elizabeth Knapp. Her case is meritorious if You find it so please send me her certificate - Very respectfully Yours &c
Thomas B. Mitchell

J. L. Calveras Esq.
Canajoharie Sept. 25 th 1838-
Sir, I wish you to inform me what has been done (if any thing) with the papers I sent you some time last spring (I think) in the case of Elizabeth Ernot Containing an application for a pension. the above information by the return mail will be thankfully received -
Yours &c.
J. H. Lucia
By H. Stanton Clerk -
P. S. If the said Widow is placed on the Pension list please enclose me the papers -
J. H. Lucia -

Power of Attorney of James Knouts son of Elizabeth Knouts
Isaac N. Coffin of Washington D.C. Attorney.

POWER OF ATTORNEY.
STATE OF New York
COUNTY OF Herkimer } 88:
Be it known that before me, a Justice
of the Peace in and for the county aforesaid, duly authorized by law to administer oaths, personally appeared * James Knouts a resident of Stark in the county of Herkimer in the State aforesaid, who being first duly sworn according to law, states that he is † a son of John J. Knouts of Stark in the county of Herkimer and State of New York who was a revolutionary ‡ Soldier and that he believes the United States are still indebted, under existing laws, for the pension that was due under the application heretofore made, and that he is directly interested as a claimant in the pension for which application was heretofore made as aforesaid, and constitutes and appoints Isaac N. Coffin , of Washington, D. C., his true and lawful attorney, with irrevocable power to examine into, investigate, and establish the claim for said pension, and do all acts necessary thereto.
In witness whereof, James Knouts has on this 11th day of October 1852, hereunto signed his name, and affixed his seal.
Witness:
James Knouts
Signed, sealed, acknowledged, and sworn to before me, on this 11th day of October 1852.
Agassiz — J. P.
STATE OF New York
COUNTY OF Herkimer } to wit:
I Francis Barry clerk of the County court, of the county and State aforesaid, do hereby certify, That H. G. Root before whom the foregoing power of attorney was acknowledged and affidavit made, was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace in and for the county aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn, and that his signature above written is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of said Court this 14th day of October 1852.
Francis Barry
Clerk.
officer is living, insert his name; if he is dead, and the widow is living, insert her name; if both children's names; if the children are all dead, and either of them survived the former unsuccessful administrator of that former applicant. officer is living, insert his name again; if the widow is living, insert the words, "widow of," and the name insert the words, "son or daughter of," and name of the former unsuccessful applicant. word "soldier," or "officer," whichever he was.
NOTE.— If a female is the person who executes this paper, please put the letter s before the word he in every place where it occurs.

N. York
Elizabeth Knowles wid. of Jacob let. to D. Deane 1. Oct. 1838
60 36
Act July 4. 1830

11036 REJECTED
P. O. Elizabeth Knowles Service: widow of Jacob
Enlisted: _____, 18__
Discharged: _____, 18__
Application filed: _____, 18__
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18__