Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 29494, for Josiah Talbot, Massachusetts

SERVICE
NUMBER
Mass.
Talbot, Josiah
S. 29494
CONTENTS

24 9 83 No  Massachusetts Isaiah Salton
of Norfolk in the State of Mass. who was a private in the Con. commanded by Captain Neeman of the Reg. commanded by Col. Whiting on the Mass. line for 9 mos. 23 days
Inscribed on the Roll of Mass. at the rate of 30 Dollars 34 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 16 day of Aug. 1832 and surto  E. S. Seland Rockland
Arrears to the last of Dec.  $60.68 Semest. allowance ending Dec. 1832  15.17 $75.85
Recorded by W. B. Bates } Revolutionary Claim, } Book 6 , Vol. 2 , Page 85 } Act June 7, 1832. } Clerk,

Josiah Talbot Map
Plats 9 No 3 days 14 06 May 9 1833
8861 P. 386
JB
E S Leland agent Roxbury Mass

BRIEF in the case of  Isiah Talbot  county of  Norfolk  in the State of  Mass  (Act 7th June, 1839.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 75  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years. Months. Days.     In 1776 2 Private Gen, Col Stephen Townsend   " 5 " Col Mumford Wheeler   1777 2 3 " Col Fisher   9 5  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none mentioned  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Mass 
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary, documentary  and  two Witness
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Papers are not attested according to the regulations - Credibility of one witness careful and not the other
X  Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
George Taylor
Examining Clerk.

Josiah Talbert.
8861
Edwin S Leland
and the office of the secretary of the navy

I Joseph Cummings of Pottery in the County of Norfolk a Commissioner of Mass achusets, age Seventy six years testify & say that I was a soldier in the revolutionary war & served in the Company of Mass achusets Militia commanded by Captain Lewis Whiting of Colonel Wheeler's regiment, from some time the first part of July 1776 for five months, that I marched from Sharon to Trenchtown, & that Josiah Talbot of said Sharon is well known to me. & that he served with me in said campaign in the manner he has stated in his written application
Joseph Cummings
Norfolk ss September 5 th 1832 Submitted & sworn to before Shelburne Judge of Probate
I further certify that said Joseph Cummings is a credible witness Shelburne Probate

John Carpenter of Worthington in the County of Norfolk Commonwealth of Massachusetts being lawful age do certify that Joseph Tabbal of Sherborn in the County of Norfolk Commonwealth of Massachusetts did interest in the service of his country in the revolution war and serve two months at East Greenwich in the State of Rhode Island and North Hempstead renewed Capt Samuel Fisher of Sherborn in the year 1777 John Carpenter
Norfolk ss August 6 th 1832 Then John Carpenter solemnly that the above instrument by him subscribed was true in every part thereof Benj in Ringwald Justice of Peace
I here by certify that John Carpenter is a man of truth Benj in Ringwald Justice of Peace
affidavit Sherborn/Probate

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
County of Norfolk ss. On this fifths day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two, personally appeared in open court before the Honorable Judge of the Court of Probate now sitting at Dedham in and for said County, Jonah Gilbert a resident of Sharon in said County, aged seventy five years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th, A. D. 1832.
THAT he was born at Shampton in said County on the twentieth day of October A. D. 1756, and that there is a record of his birth to his brother about : that he was in the United States service from the first  day of March A. D. 1776, to the first  day of May A. D. 1776, 2 months as a private in the Massachusetts Militia : that he was residing at said Sharon when he entered the service; that he was drafted and served for the period aforesaid under the command of Captain Stephen Pannaman of no regiment to his knowledge : that he marched from Sharon, to Rhode Island : that he served with other militia
of the regular troops ; and no regular officers were known to him: that he was in no battle
and at the end of his service received a discharge but not in writing : that he left the service on or about the 1st of May 1776 — and that since the Revolutionary war he has resided at said Sharon  that there is no witness known to him by whom he can prove this service
ALSO: that he was in the United States service from the first  day of July A. D. 1776, to the first  day of December A. D. 1776, 5 months as a private in the Massachusetts Militia that he was residing at Sharon when he entered the service; that he was a volunteer and served for the period aforesaid under the command of Captain Lewis  Colonel  Whitcomb's Regiment : that he marched from Sharon to Providence through Charlestown Massachusetts : that he served with some of the regular troops; and
General Gates  of regular officers were known to him: that he was in no battle that at the end of his service he received a discharge but not in writing and left the service on or about the first of December 1776
ALSO: that he was in the United States service from the first  day of June A. D. 1777, to about the 1st  day of August A. D. 1777, 2 months as a private in the Massachusetts Militia that he was residing at Sharon when he entered the service; that he was drafted  Captain and served for the period aforesaid under the command of Samuel Fish  of no regiment to his knowledge : that he marched from Sharon to Rhode Island  East Greenwich Rhode Island from there to North Kingston : that he served with other militia  of the regular troops ; and
no regular officers were known to him; that he was in no battle that at the end of his service he received a discharge but not in writing and left the service on or about the 1st of August 1777. that he has no documentary proof of any of his service except what may be found in the office of the Secretary of War

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Secretary's Office, Sept 7 th 1832.
I hereby Certify, That, from an examination of the Books and Documents, relating to Military Services in the War of the Revolution, which remain in this Department, it appears that the name of Josiah Talbot is borne upon the Pay Roll of Capt Samuel Pish's Company in Col Jonathan Pitcairn's Regt for the period of two months & three days from the third of May 1777.
Edward D Bangs Secy
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Josiah Talbot
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year first aforesaid.
We Jonathan Curtis a Clergyman and Benjamin Reynolds residing in the said Shrewsbury hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Josiah Talbot who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be Seventy five years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Jonathan Curtis. Ben a Reynolds
Sworn and subscribed as aforesaid.
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the abovenamed applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the court further certify that it appears to them that Jonathan Curtis who has signed the preceding certificate, is a Clergyman resident in the said Shrewsbury; and that Benjamin Reynolds Esquire who has also signed the same is a resident in said Shrewsbury and is a credible person; and that their statement is entitled to credit.
The court further certify that Benjamin Reynolds is a Justice of the Peace in the County of Worcester & that the name appears to the certificate to the Department of John Edsall the present Clerk of said Court.
I Samuel Haxon Register of the court of Probate do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Josiah Talbot for a pension.
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal of office on the day and year first aforesaid.
Samuel Haxon

8861
Leah Talbot
E. J. Leland Esq. Roxbury Mass

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Isiah Talbot which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yy II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yy III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yy V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yy VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yy VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yy VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yy IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yy X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yy

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yy
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. †If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? yy
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? yy as to 1. No as to the others
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yy
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yy
XVI. ‡Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yy
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yy
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension.

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
† QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡ QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

29 494 Rev: INVALID.
File No. 29 494
Josiah Talbot
Rev Mr
Act: June 7 th 89 th
Index:—Vol. 9, Page 413
[Arrangement of 1870.]