Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 9745, for John P Ives, North Carolina

SERVICE
NUMBER
N.C.
Ives, John P.
S 9745
Carded.
CONTENTS

23 1/2 H North Carolina
John P. Dow of Craven in the State of N.C. who was a C o in the _____ commanded by Captain _____ of the Reg t commanded by Col Caswell in the N.C. line for 12 months
Inscribed on the Roll of N.C. Carolina at the rate of 40 Dollars _____ Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 5 day of Feb y 30 and Supt J. G. Stanley Newbern - No Coo
Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1833 100 Semi-annual allowance ending Mar 34 20
$120-
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by J. Rice. Clerk Book E Vol. 49 Page 61
due to Pen Agt S. S. Au d. 6 Nov. 1838. Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 16 th April 1838. from 4 Sept 1837 to 4 March 1838. - agent notified 10 Nov r 1838.
Date of death not on list

105370.
John P. Inels

State of North Carolina Craven County, } ss
On this 14 th day of August in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open Court before Judge Wilson John Harris & John Brown the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions of the County of Craven, John P Ives a resident of said County, aged Twenty eight years in October next who being first duly sworn doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7. 1832, That he volunteered in the militia about the beginning of the Revolutionary War under General Howe and marched to Wilmington, N.C. that this was for a term of three months, he was discharged and came home to Craven County - he remained at home about 5 or 6 months, and then enlisted for six months x to be computed after leaving the State - he remained in the State about three months after enlistment, and then marched to Charleston under Capt: Weeks, William G. Carrick was Colonel (son of Genl. Carrick). - He remained at Charleston & news arrived that the British had taken Savannah, he was then marched to Augusta, the British & Tories retreated from Augusta towards Savannah, the whigs pursued under Genl. Ashe to Briery Creek, the enemy set fire to the bridge, and while the whigs were at work upon it, they were surprised, and after a little skirmishing retreated. - Declarant says that his Captain (Weeks) took violent cold in crossing the Savannah river and died at a place called the Two Sisters

about 4 or 5 miles from Boiling Creek. — The defeat at Boiling Creek happened just about the time his term of service expired, and he was regularly discharged at Kingston N. C. — In the course of the same year he enlisted for three months under John Council Bryan and was employed in guarding prisoners and marched with prisoners to Halifax twice. —
Declarant states that he kept his discharge for more than 20 years, and has lost them, not supposing they would be of value to him. — Benjamin White knows of declarant's being in Capt. Bryan's Company, but whether there are other men living to prove his "other services," declarant does not know. — He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid. —
J. G. Stanley Clerk
John P. Ives
Benja: White maketh oath that he knew the declarant John P. Ives when he acted as adjutant to Capt. Bryan's Company in the Revolutionary War. —
Benjamin White Mark.
pg. 14
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid
J. G. Stanley Clerk
The Justices of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions do hereby declare their opinion after investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named John P. Ives the applicant was a revolutionary soldier and

served as he states, and the Court aforesaid hereby certify, that it appears to them that Benjamin White who has signed the preceding certificate is a resident of the County of Wilmington and a credible person & that this statement is entitled to credit.
I, James T. Stanley Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of Craven County, State of North Carolina do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John P. Ives for a pension
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 10th day of September A.D. 1832.
J. T. Stanley
Declarant further states that he was at Wilmington during the first period of his service herein stated on the 4th July 1776 - that his second period of enlistment commenced  was to the best of his belief in Jan 1777 - that the six months period was to be counted after leaving the State, and that he remained in this State after said 6 months enlistment for two or three months. -
JOHN P. IVES
Sworn to subscribed in open Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions of Craven County, State of North Carolina this 14th day of August A.D. 1833 - Witness James T. Stanley Clerk of said Court under the seal thereof this 14th of August A.D. 1833.
J. T. Stanley

John P. Ives N. Carolina
Re Adams as a pastor 12 months $40.2
10,500 S. 356
4.11.12.
Apr. 27. 33-
J. G. Stanley at Newbern N.C.

BRIEF in the case of John P. Ives 60. of Coaven in the State of N.C. (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 78  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 17 volunteered in the beginning of the war 9 private Col. Thos. Tyne   enlisted no date 6 " Col. Weeks Col. Browne   in the same year 9 " Col. Doyan  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none mentioned  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Coaven 6 a N.C.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? traditional and one living witness  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? no defects given 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
George Taylor
Examining Clerk.

July 11, 1955
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JOHN P. IVES S. 9745 BA-J/MSF:MLB
Mr. Walter Leueur Turner 605 Marshall Avenue, S. W., Roanoke, Virginia
Dear Sir:
The record of John P. Ives which is given herein is furnished you at the request of Mr. P. J. Altizer, this city. The data are found in pension claim, S. 9745, based upon service of John P. Ives in the Revolutionary War.
John P. Ives was born in October, 1754, place not stated.
John P. Ives, while a resident of Craven County, North Carolina, volunteered in 1776, served three months under Thomas Tyre (rank not stated) in the North Carolina troops, was marched to Wilmington, North Carolina, and was at that place on July 4, 1776, after which he was discharged and returned home. In about five or six months he reenlisted for six months, remained in North Carolina about three months, then marched to Charleston in Captain Weeks' company, Colonel William Caswell's North Carolina regiment, thence to Augusta, and was discharged at Kinston, North Carolina, about the time of the battle of Briar Creek. He enlisted again in that year and served three months in Captain John Council Bryan's North Carolina company guarding prisoners, marching twice to Halifax with prisoners, and acted as adjutant to Captain Bryan's company.
John P. Ives was allowed pension on his application executed August 14, 1852, at which time he was a resident of Craven County, North Carolina.
There are no data whatever in regard to the family of John P. Ives in his claim for pension.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

State of North Carolina } S. Nov. 29. 1833 Crasen County }
Thomas H Davis Esq. a Magistrate of the County of Grant and John Greenman a clergyman of said County State that they believe that Geo: P. Ives the declarant is of the age stated by him in his declaration; and that it is the general belief in the neighbourhood of said Ives that he was a vol- unteer in the revolutionary war and performed services therein. They further state that the character of said Ives is fair & reputable —
Thomas H. Daves John Creekman
Seven R. & industrial life — one Phila. along appeared —
Yrs S. Fowler V.P.
State of North Carolina Craven County ss. J. James T. Stanley, Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Sessions of Craven County hereby certify, that, Joseph J. Fowler Esq. is an acting Justice of the peace of Craven County and the foregoing is his signature.
In testimony whereof, I hereunto set my hand & affix the seal of said Court at Newbern, this 29 th day of November A. D. 1833.

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? No V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? No
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? Yes
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? Yes
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? Yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? Yes
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? Yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? Yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
‡QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
No class can be allowed to an applicant for service as an officer unless they are regularly commissioned in such —

Treasury Department,
Second Comptroller's Office,
Nov. 8 1838.
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," John P. Ives a Pensioner on the Roll of the North Carolina Agency, at the rate of Forty Dollars and 62 1/2 Cents per annum, under the law of the 7 th June 1832 has been paid at this Department, from the 4 th of Sept. 1837 to the 4 th March 1838.
Respectfully, yours,
Abdoo E. Parrish Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions, Present.

REVOLUTIONARY SERVICE.
O. W. & N. Div.
MEMORANDA.
Please supply as much as possible of the data called for below.
Full name of soldier:
John (P.) Innes
Place of residence before service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.)
N. P.
Place of residence after service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.)
Date of death (as near as possible):
Christian name of widow:
Did either he or his widow receive a pension?
Remarks:
Command of Maj C. Gibbs 1777-1780
Your name and address:
Mrs Emma Powell Newbern
W.C.
6-870
(Who Mr Bee, B of R)

Sept. 25 '99 Mrs. E Powell Newbern NC 1933 July 11 - Hied to Mr. Shelter Lena Turner - m. H. M. B.
Reorgan
9745 INVALID.
File No. 9745
John P. Ives Prim. Bar. War
Act: June 7 th 1932
Index: - Vol. 1 , Page 188
[Arrangement of 1870.]