Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 21431, for Israel Ide, Massachusetts

SERVICE
Mass.
Ide, Israel Martha
NUMBER
W. 21431
CONTENTS

2439
Vernon  Burlington
Martha Ide widow of Israel Ide who was a Private in the Mass. line
for 6 months
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 20 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.
Certificate of Pension issued the 25 th day of Oct. 1843 and sent to
John Kimball Barton Vt
[Act of March 3, 1843.]
Recorded in Book A Vol. 1. Page 27.
Page Roll 25

I James Ide of Saratoga Springs in the County of Saratoga & State of New York aged nearly 83 years & a Pensioner of the United States do hereby depose & say that I was Brother to Israel Ide of Covington in Orleans County & State of Vermont formerly of Westminster in said State deceased that in the year 1775 I served in the eight months at Roxbury & Cambridge in a company commanded by Capt Wood in Paul Brattle's Regiment & that in the same year my brother Israel Ide joined said Company & served in the place of John Willet & served at least three months. In the year 1777 I was in the same war & was at the taking of Bennington & his army at which place I saw my Brother Israel Ide who was there as a soldier. I further depose & say that from the surrender of Bennington until my Brother Israel was for some considerable length of time in & about White Plains in the service as a soldier I think at least 3 months.
Sealed & subscribed before me by making his mark this 5 th day of February 1840. I am James Ide  mark George W. Wilcox Justice of the peace
State of New York Saratoga County Clerk's Office
vs. I Archibald Smith Clerk of the said County do certify that George W. Wilcox before whom the above affidavit was taken was on the 5 th day of January 1840 a Justice of the peace of said County; And also that I am acquainted with his hand writing and am well assured that his signature above written is genuine.
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of the said County this 10 th day of February 1840
Archibald Smith Clerk
Feb 25/40
I further certify that this affidavit was subscribed and sworn to before me this 5 th day of February 1840 George W. Wilcox Justice

The affidavit of Theophilus Crawford of Putney in the County of Windham and State of Vermont, aged 76 years, who testifies and says, that at the commencement of the Revolutionary War, in the 1775 th he resided with his Father in the town of Westminster in the County and State aforesaid, and was then well acquainted with Israel Ide, who then resided in the same town and neighborhood, and he well recollects that in the Fall of 1776 th the said Israel Ide, together with Jacob Abbey, and Ichabod Ide, brother of the said Israel, left Westminster, for Cambridge to join the Army; as was then said, to take the place of some eight months men — At that time the said Crawford's Father was in the eight months service, in the company of Capt. Wood, in Col. Sargent's Regt., as was then understood, of the Massachusetts Line — That he, the Deponent is unable to state the company or Regt. in which the said Israel Ide served, or where place he took; but understood at that time, that the said Ichabod Ide served as a Sargent in Capt. Wood's Company aforesaid. And thinks it probable, that said Israel Ide served in the same Corps — He further testifies, that the said Israel Ide and others left home, according to his best recollection and belief, about the middle of October and returned the fore part of January then next following. — And Deponent further testifies, that he has some recollection of the said Israel Ide being out again in the Army in 1776, but how long he was out, or in what company or Regt. he served, he is unable to state — He further testifies that he was knowing to the said Israel Ide's going out again in the Fall of 1777, and according to his best recollection and belief, left after the Bennington battle, about the middle of September and returned after the Surrender of Burgoyne and his Army.  Theophilus Crawford
State of Vermont } Windham County ss } Decr. 18 th 1840 Subscribed & sworn to in due form of Law.  Before me Phineas White, Justice of Peace
I hereby certify that the Hon. Theophilus Crawford, the above named Deponent, is a man of undoubted truth & veracity  Phineas White Justice of Peace
John Kimball Esq.
Dear Sir,
Your letter by Mr. Crawford, from Montpelier enclosing Mr. Edwards, was duly received, and I immediately called on Mr. Crawford, but he could not testify to any further facts, to help the poor old widow, as I thought, so I did not take his affidavit, he is very cautious, his memory is good, and he will testify to nothing but what is respectfully certain of since your last I have taken his affidavit as possible as I could possibly get it if I might be regarded it is no higher than the other but hope it may be of service to help the old lady  Ym. & S. White

DEC 19
12 1/2
John Kimball Esq
Barton
Vermont

Merry Praludin & Daniel Ide deposition

I Mary Baldwin of Country in the County of Orleans and State of Vermont aged Seventy Nine years of age and say that in the Year 1781 I was living in Westminster in the State of Vermont that in the Month of May of that Year I was living with My husband (being married in December previous) in the same house with Ichabod Igle Junr a Brother of Israel Igle, I well remember that the said Israel Igle and Martha Miller were married in the Month of May above written although I was not present, but they were married at the house of Ichabod Igle Senior, I saw them when they went to the house it being but a few rods distant - and I further recollect that Ichabod Igle Junr went to the Bleeding and returned (as he said) as soon as he could after the Marriage was over, as he had a sick child at that time which died soon after — I further state that I well remember that at the time of the Bennington Battle one half of the Militia was called out from Westminster (the place where I then lived) to repel the progress of the Enemy and I well remember that Thomas Baldwin (afterwards my husband) was one of those who was in the Bennington battle and I well remember that the battle was on Saturday the 16 th day of August and I well remember that the said Thomas Baldwin returned home on Tuesday next after the battle at which time the most of the Militia who were out returned at the same time — and I further state that those of the Militia who were at home at the time of the battle marched immediately upon the return of the others to Stillwater and I well remember that Israel Igle above written was one of the Number as I saw them when they marched and I well remember that the said Israel Igle did not return until after the Capture of Burgoyne and his Army which was on the 19 th of October so that I am confident that Israel Igle must have served at least two months at that time — I further state that I have ever been acquainted with the said Israel Igle and Martha Igle his Widow since and previous to their Marriage and know that the said Israel died some where from fifteen to twenty years ago since which his Widow the said Martha has continued a Widow Mary Baldwin

Idle
I Daniel of Coventry in the County of Orleans and State of Vermont aged fifty six years depose and say that I am a son to Israel and Martha Idle who formerly lived in Westminster in this State and afterwards lived in Coventry aforesaid - I further state my Father the said Israel Idle died on the 9 th day of October 1822 since which my Mother the said Martha Idle has ever continued a Widow
Daniel Idle
State of Vermont Coventry March 1 st 1839 then Orleans County ss personally appeared Mary Baldwin and Daniel Idle signers of the foregoing depositions and made oath that the same were true -
Before me John Kimball Justice of Peace I further certify that I am personally acquainted with the said Mary Baldwin and Daniel Idle and know them to be persons of good character and I further state that the said Mary Baldwin is a person of an uncommon retentive memory -
John Kimball Justice of Peace
State of Vermont
Orleans County ss I, Samuel C Crafts, Clerk of Orleans County Court, do certify that John Kimball is a Judge of Orleans County Court, duly commissioned and sworn, and ex officio, a Justice of the Peace within said County of Orleans, and that his name subscribed to the above certificates is his his own hand writing.
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and affix the seal of said Court this first day of March.
AD 1839
Sam C Crafts Clerk

Vert. 7150
Martha Ide
Declaration
Act 7 July 1838
M ar 14 May 1781
H ar 9 Oct 1822

State of Vermont } At a Special Court held in Orleans County ss at Coventry within and for said County of Orleans on this 1 st day of March A.D. 1839 Present the Hon. John Kimball Judge - Personally appre- ared before said Court Martha Ide a resident of Cove- ntry in the County of Orleans aged seventy six years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her Oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 4 th 1838 entitled an act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows - That she is the widow of Israel Ide who was a soldier in the War of the Revolution and served as follows, that in the Year 1775 he served as a private in Capt. Wood's Company in the vicinity of Boston the exact period she cannot state but has been told that it was eight months -
That in the Year 1776 he again enlisted and served three months at the White Plains -
That in the Year 1777 he again entered the service and was present at the Capture of Gen. Burgayne and his Army the length of time he served in 1777 she cannot state for certainty but she believes she can safely state it at one month -
She further declares that she was married to the said Israel Ide at Westminster in the State of Vermont on the fourteenth day of May Seventeen hundred and Eighty one by the Rev. Joseph Buelen (or Bolen) Parish Minister of Westminster - that her husband the aforesaid Israel Ide died on the ninth day of October Eighteen hundred and twenty two - that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the Marriage took place previous to the first of January Seventeen hundred and Ninety four - viz. at the time above stated -
She further states that she was before Marriage named Martha Miller and was born in Danbarton N.H. and at the time of her Marriage lived in Westminster

before written where she continued to reside with her family until the Year 1812 since which she has resided in Coventry before written and has ever remained and still remains a widow since the death of her said husband — She further states that her husband the said Israel Ide was born in Rehoboth in the State of Massachusetts but lived in said Westminster at the time of their Marriage — Sworn to and subscribed on the day and Year above written — She further declares the foregoing declaration to be according to information received —
her Martha Ide mark
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and Year above written
John Pumball Judge
And the Court do hereby declare his Opinion after the investigation of the Matter that the within named Israel Ide is the husband of Martha Ide and that he served in the War of the Revolution and died Martha Ide is the Widow of the within named Israel Ide and that he served in the War of the Revolution and died (as near as she is able to state) as set forth in her declaration —
John Pumball Judge.
State of Vermont
Orleans County ss I, Samuel C. Crafts, Clerk of Orleans County Court do certify that the Hon John Pumball is one of the Judges of Orleans County Court, duly commissioned and sworn, and by the laws of this State, empowered to administer oaths and take and certify depositions &c and that his name subscribed to the above certificate is his own hand writing.
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and affix the seal of said Court. this first day of March AD 1839
Sam C Crafts Clerk

Rev
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 21431
Martha Ide
wife of
Israel Ide
Prin Rev War
Act March 3 rd  1863
Index: Vol. 28 , Page 364
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Verf. act 1838-7150
Martha Ide — widow of Israel
Let to John Kimball 1 July 1840. In P.
Bigelow 24 July 1840 to J. Kimball 13 Oct. 1840

Rehoboth Israel Ide d 1822
Martha m. 1781 75 8 = wood 76 3 mo. Houghton Vt. 77 1.
Not on roll
Isa Ide May 27
May 16 & 61

7160 Martha Ide Mid of Israel Nat. As July 1888 Manna 1782 acid. 1822 Allen Am. p 20 per ann. Capt Am. Map. Maltia
Stor H. Everett HR

Washington 29 th Dec 1840
Sir
I enclose a letter from Dr. Humboldt Esq. & an affidavit in relating to the pension application of Martha Ideo
respectfully &c.
H. Everett
J. L. Edwards Esq. Comm. of Pensions

Benton Vermont 23 rd September 1840 James L. Colwell Esq
In enclosed is the affidavit of Theophilus Crewsford in behalf of the Widow Martha Ide Widow of Israel Ide - at most she cannot expect but a small pension - providing that Israel Ide served three months in 1775 as stated by Cobb in Capt Houghton Company - three months in Capt. Woods Company as stated by his Brother James Ide in 1775 and two months in 1777 as stated by Mary Baldwin Martha Ide would be enti- tled to eight months pension - but you will see by the deposition herein enclosed that Mr Crawford does not estimate the service in 1777 to have been quite so long a period as estimated by Mrs Baldwin - The Records of in the Secretarys Office in Massachusetts show that Capt. Wood commanded a Company in the year 1775 but it shows nothing in relation to who served after (or at) so late a period as the 1 st of October I have not the Sec ry letter before me but write from recol- lection - we have not been able to obtain any record proof of any service (and I believe none can be found) I hope you will allow such a pension to the Widow as you believe her justly entitled Yours with respect John Kimball P.S. the service mentions by Cobb in Houghton Company was not stated by Cobb to have been in 1775 as above written but (if recollect right) in 1778 - Cobb - Crewsford & the Widow Baldwin were respectable persons, the other witness

W James Ide I know nothing of his character - John Rimbull
The certificate usual to be attached showing the Justice to be such is omitted presuming that you have Mr Whetstone so often certified as being a Justice that you will know him to be such - but if Gainsford's deposition cannot be allowed without, you will please return his deposition and I will obtain the usual certificate from the Secy of State - John Rimbull

rose in quote
Sept 29. 1840
Q.
Add proof
than the
Boston A Sept 24
free
James L. Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions Washington

Pension Office Oct. 2. 1849
Sir,
In reply to your letter of the 23 rd ult. relative to the claim of M rs Martha Ide, widow of Israel Ide, I have to state that the affidavit of Theophilus Crawford, offered as additional evidence, is indefinite. He must specify the names of the officers under whom the service he has attempted to describe was rendered, before an investigation as to that part of the claim can be had.
I am respectfully
Your Ob dt . Serv t .
J. L. C.
John Kimball, Esq. Benton Vermont

July 17. 1840.
Mr. James M c Manus Esq r Apprentice to the
L. Belinards Esq r Comm r of Pensions Washington City

Washington City July 16 th 1840
James L. Edwards Esq.
Sir enclosed is the deposition of James Ide in support of the claim of his son for a pension - I cannot expect but a small pension provided all the evidence shall be considered as truth of which I do not think otherwise - I was acquainted with Samuel Cobb (now dead) who testified in her case as to the service under Capt. Houghton he was considered quite a respectable man and by examining his declaration for a pension made 1832 it can be seen whether it agrees with his deposition - Mary Baldwin who has also testified is a woman of the first respectability and of a remarkable retentive memory - as to James Ide whose deposition is herein enclosed I know nothing about him - the Justice has certified him to be a credible witness which was omitted in his certificate and I returned it to the Justice for the certificate to added which you will perceive he has made an addition - I hope you will give such a certificate as you may think best - if the evidence of the service in Capt Wood's Company or of any other part of the service is not satisfactory you will name such part as is not satisfactory Respectfully Yours John Hinkhall
P.S. The deposition of James Ide has but now come to hand although it was returned to the Justice  the many months ago that he might amend his certificate John Hinkhall

State of Vermont
This certifies that there is no entry on the Records of the town of Westminster of any marriage of either Israel Ide or Martha Miller, formerly of said Town. And if said marriage had taken place as early as in the year 1781, it would not be likely to appear on said records, as at that time it appears that no such records were made in any case, or any book kept for that purpose. I further certify, that having been Town Clerk in each alternate year ever since about 1810, for forty eight years a Clergyman of said town in which said Ide had his residence, I was well acquainted with him & said Martha, & have no reason to doubt their marriage.
Sylvester Sage
State of Vermont } Windham County ss
Personally appeared the above named Sylvester Sage, & made solemn oath to the truth of the above, at Westminster this third day of April A.D. 1839
Before Josiah Miller Justice Peace

The affidavit of Theophilus Crawford of Putney in the County of Windham and State of Vermont, aged Seventy six years, who testifies and says, that in the year 1775 he lived in the town of Westminster in the County aforesaid in the neighborhood, of Israel Ide, deceased, and was knowing to the said Ide's leaving home some time in the month of October of that year to join the Army at Cambridge or vicinity, and as the Affiant then understood, said Ide took the place of some soldiers, and that said Ide returned home to said Westminster the forepart of the month of January 1776 - And that he also recollects that the said Ide in the month of September 1777 went out again, as was then understood, to join the Northern Army, and was at the taking of Burgoyne - and he should think, that said Ide, was gone, at that time, five or six weeks -
Theophilus Crawford
State of Vermont
Windham County ss.
form of Laws -
September 17 th 1840
Before me
Phineas White Justice of the Peace
I certify that the Hon. Theophilus Crawford, the above affiant is a man of undoubted truth and veracity -
Phineas White Justice of the Peace

I Samuel Cobb of Brownington in the County of Orleans and State of Vermont (formerly of Cavendish in said County) aged eighty five years and a Revolutionary pensioner do hereby say that I was well acquainted with Israel Ide who died in Cavendish a number of years ago. and I further state that during the War of the Revolution he lived in Westminster Vermont and I lived in Westmoreland New Hampshire opposite (or nearly opposite) on different sides of the River I further state that in the fall of the year of 1776 (I not mistaken in the year) the said Israel Ide served three Months at the White Plains in a Company commanded by Capt — Haughton in Gen. Sullivan's Brigade and that I myself also served the same time in the same Company with him and that we Messed together — I further state that the widow of said Israel Ide is now living in Cavendish and has continued a widow ever since the death of her said husband the said Israel Ide —
Samuel Cobb
State of Vermont Orleans County to Brownington 21 st February 1839
Then Samuel Cobb a man well known to me as a good witness and a credible man personally appeared and made oath that the above deposition by him subscribed is true
Before Me — John Kimball Justice of Peace

State of Vermont Orleans County ss
I, Samuel Crafts Clerk of Orleans County Court do certify that the Hon John Kimball, is a Judge of Orleans County Court, duly commissioned and sworn, and by the laws of this State, ex officio , a Justice of the Peace in said County of Orleans — and that his name subscribed to the within certificate is his own hand writing.
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and affix the seal of said Court, this twenty second day of February A.D. 1889.
Sam l Crafts Clerk

State of Vermont } Orleans County ss } On this 14 th day of June 1843 Personally affirmed before the Hon. Isaac Parker Judge of the County Court of the County aforesaid Martha Ide, a resident of Orleans late Coventry in the County aforesaid of aged eighty years who being duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress passed on the 3 rd March 1843 granting pensions to widows in certain cases of persons who served during the revolutionary war that she is the widow of Israel Ide for whose services she obtained a pension under the act of Congress passed 7 th July 1838 for the proof of his services and of their marriage also his death references may be had to her declaration and the accompanying papers by which she received her pension which are now in the War Department
Martha Her Ide X
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written
Before me Isaac Parker Judge
I further certify that the above named Martha Ide has long been a near neighbor of mine and is a person of truth and is a widow
Isaac Parker Judge

State of Vermont
Orleans county clerk's office June 14 th . 1843
I Henry M. Bates clerk of Orleans County court do hereby certify that Isaac Parker is one of the Judges of Orleans County court duly qualified And that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is true and genuine-And that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of Martha Ide for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of office this 14 th day of June A. D. 1843
H M Bates Clerk
26-4-8

5971 Vermont
Martha Ide widow of Israel Ide, dec d .
who was pensioned under the Act of and who died on the 9 th October 1829. of Orleans Co in the State of Vermont who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Ward of the regt commanded by Col. in the Mass. M a line for O'Neills.
Inscribed on the Roll of Burlington at the rate of 20 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 6 th day of Jan'y 1841 to Hon. H. Everett, Secy of War.
Arrears to the 14th of Mar 1841 $ 100.00 Semi-annual allowance ending
{ Act July 7, } 1838. }
Recorded by D. M c Curdy. Clerk, Book A. Vol. 2. Page 43.

2641
July 14. 1843.
Barton Vt 10 July
Martha Tole
March 3/ 1843.
H.
$20 per
Col. James L. Edwards Comm. of Pensions
War Department Washington
John Hall
Barton Vt.
Jan

Benton Orleans County Vermont
July 4 th 1843 -
Col James L. Edwards.
Sir enclosed is the declaration
of Martha Ide for a pension under the Act of 3 rd March 1843 - The Judge has omitted in his certificate to say that he knew her to be the widow of Israel Ide for whose services she drew a pension although he well knew it to be so - and no doubt the omission was a mistake.
I can say from my own knowledge that she is the widow of Israel Ide and drew a pension under the Act of July 7 th 1838 at the rate of $20- 00 per Year
Respectfully Yours - John Shinsell