Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 21835, for Joseph Ide, Rhode Island

SERVICE
NUMBER
R.S.
Ide, Joseph
S. 21835-
CONTENTS

31520
Rhode Island
Joseph Ide
of N. Providence in the State of R. Island who was a private in the  commanded by Captain  of the Reg't commanded by Col Olney, in the R. Island line for 2 years.
Inscribed on the Roll of R. Island at the rate of 80 Dollars  Cents per annum to commence on the 14th day of March 1837. to commence on the 14th day of March 1837. Sept 1837. from act 18 March 1818.
Certificate of Pension issued the 4 th day of Sept 1838 and sent to Bury Conwell, Esq. Providence, R. I.
Arrears to the 14th of Sept '38 $80.00
Semi-ann. allowance ending
$80.00
{ Revolutionary Claims { Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by D.M. Curdy Clerk Book E Vol. 2 Page 15
Dead Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 6. April 1838 from 4 th March 1839 to 5 th Aug 1839. the day of his death Agt notified 30 Dec 1840

TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Second Comptroller's Office,
December 18 th 1840.
Sir :
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Adm or Joseph Ide, dec d a Pensioner on the Roll of the Rhode Island Agency, at the rate of Eighty — Dollars and Cents per annum, under the law of the 7 th June 1832, has been paid at this Department, from the 1 st of March 1839, to the 5 th August 1839, the day of his death.
Respectfully yours,
William B. Parsons
Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.

Joseph Dae.
(schedule)
9,447- Sept. 1/9.
There is a mistake in the heading of the Clerk's certifi- cate, which must be corrected.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
RHODE-ISLAND DISTRICT.
Providence R.
District Court, of Common Pleas May Term, A D, 1820.
On this 29 — day of May — 1820, personally appeared in open Court, being a Court of Record within and for Said County Joseph Ide aged 64 years, residing in the town of Gloucester — in said County — who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath declare, that he served in the Revolutionary War as follows: Viz — as a private fifteen months in Col. Greene's Col. Olney's Regiments — one year in Col. Lippitt's regiments of the Rhode Island line
that he made a previous declaration on the eighth — day of April 1818, and that he has received a certificate for a pension, being No. 9447 — And I do solemnly swear, that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the eighteenth day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen; and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner whatever, disposed of my property, or any part thereof, with intent thereby so to diminish it, as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress, entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States, in the revolutionary war," passed on the eighteenth day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen: that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts or debts, due to me; nor have I any income other than what is contained in the Schedule hereto annexed, and by me subscribed.
Joseph Ide
A SCHEDULE of Property and Income (necessary clothing and bedding excepted) of
Joseph Ide viz, 1 old house about Twenty years old. 2 pots 2 kettles - 6 old chairs - 1 old looking glass - Some knives, forks - 5 plates a few cups & saucers - 2 tables very old - 2 hoes, 1 axe 1 shovel & spade - other than the above he has no property of any description except as above excepted - And the said Joseph further saith that he is a laborer & works for a living when able - but being so afflicted with the rheumatism he can do but little - he has a wife aged 63 who is much afflicted with phthisis - has no other family under these impoverished circumstances he feels entitled to a continuance of his pension.
Joseph Ide
Sworn to and declared in open Court — on the Second day of the Term. — before
Dexter Randall
RHODE-ISLAND DISTRICT.
15 Clerk's Office of the Court of Common Pleas  March , A. D. 1820
I Joseph Ide Clerk of said Court — do hereby certify, that the foregoing oath, and the schedule thereto annexed, are truly copied from the record of the said Court; and I do further certify, that it is the opinion of the said Court, that the amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule, is fifteen dollars and cents . In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and a fixed the seal of the said Court, on this 15th  June 1821
Dexter Randall Clerk of said Court.

Joseph Ide 34633
Allow $80 per ann, to commence from the time of his last pay under the Act of the March 1818
Benjamin Russell

State of Rhode Island } County of Providence }
On this 10 day of May A D 1838 personally appeared in Open Court being the Municipal Court of the city of Providence and a Court of Record, Joseph Ide of Foster in said County aged eighty years of age & upwards, who being duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of June 7th 1832 but first in answer to the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department he says
1st He was born in Smithfield in said County September 30th 1757, when about ten years old he removed to Gloucester in said County 2nd He does not know whether his birth is recorded or not
3rd He lived in said Gloucester when he was first called into service, and continued to reside in said town until after the war, Since the war he has lived in said Gloucester & Foster, he now resides in Foster in said County.
4th He enlisted at various times & also served in militia
5th He served under General Washington, General Sullivan, & General Cornwall also under Colonels, Lippitt Grary, Barton, Greene, Olney & in companies as herein after specified
6th He never received any written discharge but once that was at Saratoga in December 1782 & that discharge was sent on to the Pension Office when he obtained a pension under the Act March 18th 1818,
7 Esdras Bishop, Joseph Richardson & William Wilkinson living can testify to his services, William Wells And the said Joseph further declares, that the reason why he did not apply for a pension under said Act before is, that when the Act of March 18th, 1818, was passed, he applied for & obtained a pension under said Act for having as he

believed served nine months under Jeremiah Olney of the Continental line, as a private, at Saratoga where he was discharged in December 1782, as before mentioned, which pension he has continued to draw until this last 4th of March, when he applied for it as usual & was refused and on asking the reason was informed that, it was discontinued, for not having served nine months in the continental establishment, but he believes he did serve nine months and that his discharge now in the Pension office so states it. He remembers of standing guard one night after he was discharged, by particular request of Capt. Jeremiah Olney.
And the said Joseph further declares that his services in the War of the Revolution were as follows
In January 1776 he enlisted for one year as a private, in Capt. Benjamin Hoppus's Company & Col. Lippitt's regiment & marched to the westward & was honorably discharged near Kings bridge in January 1777 & came home.
He then served several tours of duty in Militia, He further declares that in June 1777 he enlisted for nine months as a private in Col. Crary's regiment of State troops in Capt. Taintott's company & he served out his time, he then again did several tours of duty for himself & as a substitute for others when in June 1778 he again enlisted in same regiment under Capt. Whipple, for nine months as a private & was taken into General Cornell's Guard who was Brigade General after this enlistment expired he again served in Militia until June 1780 when he enlisted for six months as a private in Col. Christopher Greene's regiment in continental establishment, his Captain's name was Taintott he believes & he served out his time on Rhode Island. All his services in Col. Crary's regiment also were done in Rhode Island,

And he further declares, that in March 1782 he enlisted for nine months in Colonel Olneys regiment on the continental establishment as a private & served out his time, as he always thought at Saratoga & was discharged as before mentioned
He served upwards of five years under enlistments & in the militia & he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension at present & declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any State except as above mentioned
Joseph Richardson, Thompson served with him in Greens, Esbriah Bishop in Olneys regiment & can testify if living
Joseph Dole
Municipal Court of the City of Providence, May 10 th 1838.
Subscribed and duly sworn to, by Joseph Dole, in Open Court.
Albert H. Greene, Clerk.

I Eschil Bishop of Scituate in the County of Providence and State of Rhode Island - aged 76 years do say upon solemn oath - that in the year 1778 I enlisted into Capt Townshend's Company in Col. Crary's Regiment for nine months, about the same time Mr Joseph Ide, now living in Foster in said County enlisted into the same company & regiment we first marched to Providence, then to East Green- wich, then to Wickford, then to Point Judith, then back to East Greenwich, then passed over the Bay to Warren, then to Bristol, in about a month, we marched to Howland Ferry in Scituate, we stayed here till we went on to Rhode Island in Sullivan's Expedition, we stayed on this Island till the retreat in the last of August, then we went back to Howland Ferry's, we stayed here till winter, during all the aforesaid time, said Ide was with us and was a member of said Company and served with me, (we were in the Battle on said Rhode Island, said Ide stood beside me), at this time to wit in the winter I was taken and put upon the frigate guard, I left said Ide on service in said Company and Regiment, he was en- listed for nine months, and never heard but what he served his time out, always under -

Stated that he served the enlistment out and and have no doubt of the fact - as near as I can recollect, it was in the last of December 1778 or the first of January 1779 that I left said Regiment, I do then being in it on duty as aforesaid, and was myself put on said Regiment guard - Ezekiel Bishop
State of Rhode Island } County of Providence } S c June 16. th 1838
Then Ezekiel Bishop, personally came and made oath to the truth of all the facts above & before by him stated. I also certify that he is to me well known and is a credible person and his statement is entitled to full credit - Before me - H. G. Jones of J. P.

State of Rhode Island &c Providence Jo. I, John W. Smith Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, within & for said County of Providence, being a Court of Record, do hereby certify, that Zadock Young Esquire, before whom the foregoing affidavit was sworn is a Justice of the Peace for the town of Scituate in said County: that by law he is duly authorized to administer oaths and take depositions: and that his signature aforewritten is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I hereunto set my hand and affix the seal of our said Court this Nineteenth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & thirty eight [1838] at the City of Providence.
John W. Smith Clerk

J. Joseph Richardson of Thompson in the County of Windham and State of Connecticut aged 76 years and duly sworn according to law do testify and say, that, I have always been well acquainted with Joseph Ide, of the State of Rhode Island, from the time I was a dozen years old, in the Revolutionary War, said Ide was a soldier with me twice, once in the fine part of the war, for one month, I believe in the year 1777 1777, at Princeton, R. Island. and six months in 1780, in Col. Greens Regt. at Newport, R. Island, I was, in the same company with him, in Col. Greens Regiment, Lieut Chandler Burlingham, had the command of the company - we were discharged if I remember, in November, 1780 - after having served six months. - & further saith not
Y o H is Aff d Richardson
State of Connecticut (Windham County) ss. Thompson May 23 d 1838 Then personally appeared Joseph Richardson signer of the foregoing Deposition & made solemn oaths to the truth of the same. & I certify from personal knowledge said deponent, is a man of truth & veracity.
Before me
Simson Davis Justice of the Peace

State of Connecticut
Windham County ss } Office of Clerk of County Court
I, Abiel Fuller, Clerk of the County Court for the County of Windham in the State aforesaid, do certify, that Simon Davis Esquire, before whom the within deposition was sworn, is a Justice of the Peace for said County duly commissioned and qualified - I further certify that the within signature purporting to be his, is genuine -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of said Court this 24 th day of May, Anno Domini 1838 -
Abiel Fuller Clerk

I Benjamin Cowell of the City of Providence do certify that I have now in my possession a Pay abstract of Col Christopher Lippitts regiment of the Revolutionary army which bears date September 1776. which was put into my hands by William Lippitt a son of said Christopher soon after the act of Congress of Jan 7 1832 was passed & has been in my possession ever since - and I further certify that on the Roll of Captain Benjamin Hopkins Company in said Regiment is borne the name of "Jos. Ide" as a private. I also certify that I have been acquainted with Joseph Ide, who has made an application for a pension in the Municipal Court, for a number of years past & have often heard him speak of his serving a year in Col Lippitts regiment.
Benja Cowell
Municipal Court of the City of Providence, May 29, 1838. Subscribed to form of in open Court, by Benjamin Cowell, this day Al Greene, Clerk

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states, and the Court further certifies, that it appears to them, that Ezekiel Bishop, Joseph Richardson and Benjamin Cowell, who have signed the preceding certificates, are credible persons, and that their statements are entitled to credit.
I Albert Greene Clerk of the Municipal Court of the City of Providence, do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court, in the matter of the application of Joseph Ide, for a pension.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and have affixed the Seal of said Court this twentieth day of June A.D. 1838.
Albert Greene Clerk

Joseph Ide
Soldier in the Rhode Island
reg. having this day completed eleven months & twenty one days service, being the term required of him, is hereby hereby discharged the service of the United States.
Given under
my hand this
8
twentieth
day of December 1882
When concerned?
Cogg
Clas Navy Dept, Comd R. H. R 58
Ide, Joseph P.I. 521835

Brookston 21835 INVALID.
File No. 21,835
Joseph H. his son
Act: June 7 th 82 nd
Index:—Vol. 9 , Page 209
[Arrangement of 1870.]

1 56
The original discharge & Major Dutton's Certificate agree most perfectly

To the Rev. Ad 18 March 1807 when last paid.
HHS
25 Aug 35
p st 4 th March 1832
p st 4 Sep 1837 - Dropped from the roll - did not receive 9 months.
JH

Joseph Ide.
enlisted March 27 1782
disch d Dec r 20 1782. 8 mo 23 d s
See Capt Puckham Roll
Olney, Ref Bundle 14 N o 8

I Joseph Ide of North Providence in the District of Rhode Island do hereby certify that in the month of March 1782 I enlisted as a private soldier in Capt. Perkins Company in Col. Greene's Olney's regiment, in the continental army of the United States, - in the Rhode Island line. In which service I continued nine months & twenty three days being the time required of me by my enlistment - when I recd my discharge, which discharge or what remains of it is hereto annexed - I further declare that I am now in reduced circumstances & stand in need of the assistance of my country for support - Joseph Ide
I Daniel Daggett of North Providence do certify that I am acquainted with the above Joseph Ide & know that he was in the above service within the time mentioned having been there myself - at the White Plains - Daniel Daggett
Rhode Island District 2 April 1819, Hon. Sairy at War.
I am satisfied that Joseph Ide is a poor man - and that he served in the army of the revolution the nine months as required by the pension act of 1818 March 1818.
Daniel Hazard District Judge.

Rhode Island District
Be it remembered that on this eighth day of April 1818 came before me Joseph Ide subscriber to the within declaration & made solemn oath to the truth of the same also appeared at the same time Daniel Dazgett subscriber to the within certificate & made solemn oath to the truth of the same In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & caused the seal of the District Court for said District to be hereunto affixed.
Daniel Howell
District judge.
I certify that the signature of the Judge and the seal of the District Court of the United States for said District are hereunto affixed
Witness
Benjamin Russell Clerk of said Court
Joseph Ide
Mr. Providence Joseph Ide - private Olney's R Island Legs from March 1780 9 months 8th April, 1818.
Resides - His man due of some new in the certificate discharge Pension office Adm. (on Major Dexter's certificate.)

We the Deponents inhabitants of North Providence in the State of Rhode Island do hereby certify & say that one are personally well acquainted with Joseph Ide of said North Providence an applicant for a pension That we have known said Ide for some time past & from our knowledge we verily believe him now to be in indigent circumstances, said Ide is a labouring man, & dependent on his labour for subsistence for himself & family - said Ide is also much infirm by reason of the Rheumatism, which prevents him from doing much work. - We think said Ide deserves & needs the assistance of his Country for support, -
Wm Thurber Elisha Sweet
27 March
Rhode Island District
I certify that on the twenty seventh day of March 1819 personally appeared before me the above named William Thurber & Elisha Sweet & made oath to the truth of the above certificate by them subscribed.
Benjamin Cowell Commissioner of the District Court Rhode Island dist-

The Deposition of William Thurber north of Providence in the Hill of Rhode

Copy 1
War Department Pension Office September 4. 1833
Sir
The affidavit of Joseph Ide respecting his pension Certificate is herewith returned. The enclosed paper you should file with your Vouchers when you pay him. He may always be paid his pension on producing proof of identity. The Oath of identity should be varied from the usual form, so as to suit his case.
Very Respectful
Yr obed Servt
D L Edwards "
Philip Allen Esq First Natl Br Bank & Pension Agent Providence R.I.

It appears by the Regimental Book, That the bearer Joseph Ide enlisted for, and served the term of nine months, a Private soldier in the Regiment commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Commandant Jeremiah Olney, in the Rhode Island Line, on the Continental Establishment, and that he was honorably discharged from said Regiment at Saratoga in the State of New-York on the twentieth day of December 1782. —
Isaac Dexter H Major of said Regiment eodem tempore.
Providence March 22 nd 1819.

I Benjamin Cobb of Gloucester in the State of Rhode Island on solemn oath Depose and say, that on the 16 th Day of April A.D. 1833 I went with Mr. Joseph Hall of Said Gloucester at his Request to the House of Gene- ral Smith the present with him at the time of his making a demand for a pension certificate which entitled him to receive a pension at the pension office in Providence Rhode Island for services rendered by him in the Revolutionary war which he said was unjustly detained from him by Said Smith I went with Said Hall and was present when he made demand of Smith for said certi- ficate which he refused to give up to him. Mr. Hall asked Mr. Smith if he would go to Providence with him and carry the certificate that he might get his pension he said he would not Mr. Hall then asked him if he would send any body with him to carry the certi- ficate and he said he would not unless Mr. Hall would get some good man to be bound to deliver up the biggest part of the money and the certificate to him when he had got the money. Hall returned with the money
Benj n Cobb
Sworn and subscribed to before me at Gloucester this 18 th Day of April A.D. 1833
David Arnold Justice Peace
fees 50 cts

Providence April 23 d 1833
Dr Sir Mr Joseph Ide of Gloucester in the State of Rhode Island a revolutionary pensioner who has now a year pay due to him has been to the Pension Office in this City several times within the last six months stating that a man named Jeremiah Smith of Gloucester unjustly detained his certificate from him. Ide states that he has worked on Smith's farm for two years past and that Smith charges him with owing him, But that the fact as Ide states is that Smith owes him, a considerable sum, he has permitted Smith to take the four last payments at this office and will not settle with him. In the first part of this month I directed Ide to get a person to go with him to Smith and demand his certificate and take the person afterwards before a justice and testify to the fact of refusal (if refused) which resulted in the sending to me the enclosed deposition of Benjamin Cobb. I also send the statement of Ide under oath who begs that a new certificate may be sent to him. Mr President Philip Allen has directed me to make this application

I Joseph Ide of Gloucester in the State of Rhode Island a revolutionary pensioner On solemn oath say that Jeremiah Smith of said Gloucester unjustly retains from my Certificate upon which I have heretofore drawn my money at the pension Office in the City of Providence. I went with Benj a Cobb on the 16. day of April inst. and made a distinct and positive demand of said Certificate of Smith in Cobb presence, he utterly refused to deliver it to me said Smith charges me with owing him, but for all the work which I have done for him I have received not half the wages which are justly due to me besides which he has received my pension money for two years of which he has retained $125 from me he has used me unrighteously and has taken advantage of my old age and infirmities. I am now very des- titute and in want of the necessaries of life
Joseph Ide
State of Rhode Island Providence ss In Providence April 23. 1833 Then Subscribed and sworn to before me M c Asplin Asso. Justice of the Court of Common Pleas in said County

W.B. please direct the certificate to the pension office in this City
see her

9,447 ~  Rhode-Island.
Joseph Ide, of N. Providence in the state of R. Island who was a private in the regiment commanded by Colonel Olney , of the R. Island , line, for the term of nine months .
Inscribed on the Roll of Rhode-Island , at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence on the 8 , of April, 1818 .
Certificate of Pension issued the 16 , of April 19 , and sent to Benjamin Cowell ,  Providence, Rhode-Island .
Arrears to 4th of March, 1819 . - 87.16 Semi-ann. all'ce ending 4. Sept. 2  48 " 10 mo. 23  1819. 8  135.16  30 }  4 } Revolutionary claim, }  31 " } Act 18th March, 1818. }
Continued.
see letter to Pension Agent Sept. 4. 1839. Draft from roll see letter 30 th Sept. 1837 to P. Agent
Noted sent 30 July 1821 to Henry Bowditch, Providence, R.I.

Providence August 22 1838
Sir
The claim of Joseph Ide for a pension was examined & allowed when I was in Washington in July last, but you delayed before a new certificate could be granted his old one under the act of March 18, 1818 must be given up, accordingly I informed him on my return of your request, when he told me his old certificate had been lost for a number of years but that he had always been paid his pension without the certificate. - I called on the agent for paying pensions for information and it would seem such has been the fact as enclosed is a copy of your order for such payment - I have therefor to request

that a certificate may be granted under the act of June 7 1832 as allowed by you —
I am very respectfully your most obedt servt Brya Lowell
Dr Edwards Esq