Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 32398, for James Mc Withey, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York Vermont
Mc Withery James or Mc Withery
S. 32 398
CONTENTS

Illinois
26.226
James M c Wilby of the Co. in the State of Ill s who was a P t in the Company commanded by Captain Stockwell of the Reg t commanded by Col Allen in the Ill s Vol t line for
2 nd Y r $ 80.00
Inscribed on the Roll of Ill s at the rate of 80 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 8 th day of April and sent to 1832 James Davis - Atlas, Ill s
Arrears to the 4th of Sept r 34, 240.00 Semi-annual allowance ending Sept r 40.00
$ 280.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by J. C. Spague Clerk, Book 8 — Vol. 8 Page 53 —

James McWhirter Illinois
Return
Adm 2 years.
Max
James Davis Atlas Illinois

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
8 th Jany 1834
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of James M c athy
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1788 9. Jon Capt. Stockwell 71 years   9. " Allen Traditionary   1788 6. Serf.  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
JAMES L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.
This claim cannot be admitted without some proof of the alleged service

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers :
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
 6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
 7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

Declaration,
State of Illinois County of Pike ss. On this second day of December personally appeared in open court before the County Commission Court of said County, now sitting James McWhorter, a resident of said County & State aforesaid, aged seventy one years the 8th day of March next, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declarations, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Jan'y 22, 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States & served under the following named officers as herein stated, in April 1783, he entered the service, as a substitute for Andrew Sharp who was drafted, under Lieut. Governor Rogers, & Capt. Levi B. Knowell, who was commander of the detachment, & that he was stationed at Whitehall on Lake Champlain, & that he served nine months & that he was in no engagement, during that period at the place at which he was stationed,
That in April the next year, he entered as a volunteer in Col. Walbridge's regiment, & Capt. Parmley Allen, Company, of which Jonathan Wright & David Stewart were lieutenants, and that he lived at each time when he entered the service at Cynerville Washington County, State of New York, & that he served at Whitehall, again for the period of nine months, during which time also, there was no engagement at that place;
And that the next year (1780) he served as a substitute for Solomon Baker, an orderly sergeant, that he entered in June, & was discharged on Christmas day, during this time he did no duty. This was a company of volunteers who turned out at the close of the

war to keep the Tories in subjection, & that they were stationed at Salem, in Washington County New York, during this time they (the company in which he served) had several skirmishes with the Tories, but that they had none with the British. He has no documentary evidence & that he knows of no person, whose testimony he can produce, who can testify to his services. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present declaration that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any State whatever. Sworn & subscribed to the day & year aforesaid.
James McWhirter We Lewis Allen & clergymen residing in the said County of Pike & Joel Moore, residing in the same County & State, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with James Mc- Whirter, who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration, that we believe to be near 71 years of age; that he is reputed be- lieved, in the neighborhood in which he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution, And that we concur in that opinion. Attest Sworn & subscribed the day & year James Davis, aforesaid, Lewis Allen Joel Moore
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, & after putt- ing the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier & served as he states, And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that Lewis Allen who has also signed the preceding certificate is a clergymen resident in the County of Pike & State of Illinois, that Joel Moore, who has also signed the same is a resident in the

large loyalty. That I am a credible person that their statements is entitled to credit Subscribed in presence of James Davis. May Harvey George H. Hinman Hawkins Jones
Copy of interrogatories.
1. Where, & in what year were you born, Ans. 1763. 2. Have you any record of your age, & if so, where is it? Ans. I have no record, only what my parents kept, I do not know where that is at this time. 3. Where were you living when called into the service, where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, & where do you now live? Ans. When called into the service I lived at Goshill in the State of New York, since the war, I have lived in New York, part of the time in Vermont, part of the time in Ohio part of the time in Kentucky & the balance of the time in Illinois, & I now live in Pike County Illinois.
4th How were you called into service, were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute, and if a substitute for whom? Ans. The first time I entered the service I was a substitute for Andrew Sharp, The second time I entered the service I was a volunteer, The third time I was a substitute, for Solomon Baker.
5th State the names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops where you served, such Continental & Militia Regiments as you can recollect, & the general circumstances of your service.
Ans. I was stationed while in the service in the interior of New York, & consequently had no opportunity of knowing any of the regular officers, and I recollect no Militia Officers but those contained in the declaration. All the recollection I have of the circumstances of my service is very indistinct, being very young when I entered the

Service, and stationed at one place the most of the time, very few circumstances transpired of any importance, during all the time I was in service. No action occurred with the enemy. 6 th Did you ever receive any discharges from the service if so, by whom was it given & what has become of them?
Ans. I have received three, the first from Capt. Stockwell, the second from Capt. Allen, the third from Capt. Robert Grinstead - all of which I have lost this great many years -
7 th State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood -
Ans. George Bright, James Wells, Peter Karges David J. Barnington, & Andrew Philips - with a great many others -
State of Illinois & ss Pike County & ss I W. Rop, clerk of the Co. Commissioners Court of said County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of James W. Withy, for a pension -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of said Court at Alton, this 5 th day of Decem- ber A.D. 1833. W. Rop C.M.R. C.A.C.P.L
State of Illinois, & ss Pike County & ss I W. Rop, clk. of the Circuit Court of said County do hereby certify that Benj. Barney, G. W. Hinman & David Whose names appear to the within certificate, was, at the time of sub- scribing the same, Commissioners in & for said County, duly commissi- oned & qualified, I also that W. Rop, whose name appears to the above certificate, was at the time of making the same, clerk of said Court, duly commissioned & qualified. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of the circuit court of said County. W. Rop C.M.R. this 5 th day of Dec. A.D. 1833.

April 4, 1932
Mrs. Harry A. Kopp Grigsville Illinois
BA-J/MCS XXXXXXXXXXXXX James McWithy S. 32398
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter of February 21st, requesting information in regard to soldiers of the Revolution.
The data contained herein are obtained from papers on file in pension claim, S. 32398, based upon the Revolutionary War service of James McWithy or McWithey.
He was born March 8, 1765, place not stated.
While a resident of Granville, Washington County, New York, he enlisted and served nine months from April, 1778, as private in Captain Levi Stockwell's New York Company. He enlisted in April, 1779, and served nine months as private in Captain Parmalee Allen's Company in Colonel Walbridge's Vermont Regiment. He subsequently served six or nine months as orderly sergeant under Captain Robert Armstrong, was engaged against the Tories and was stationed at Salem, Washington County, New York.
After the Revolution he lived in New York, Vermont, Ohio, Kentucky Sec. Heitman and Illinois. Worshipful
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 15, 1832, at which time he was living in Pike County, Illinois. 1832
One Elvin McWithey stated in 1832 that he was acquainted with the soldier but he did not say that he was related to him. name
The Revolutionary War records of this office fail to afford any information in regard to David Callis and James McWhitney and the above noted is the only pensioner from Pike County, Illinois, with surname similar to McWhitney that is found in said records.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

32398 Rev INVALID.
1932 Apr 4 hist. to Mrs. Harry A. Koffs. U.C.L.
File No. 32,398
James McWhirter Lin Rev. Rev.
Act: June 1 st 1932
Index:—Vol. 2 , Page 263
[Arrangement of 1870.]

State of Illinois Pike County August 15. 1832 This day personally appear- -ed before me (Andrew Philips a Justice of the peace within & for said County) James McWhitney a citizen of said coun- -ty & known to me to be the person whose name is herein subscribed & made the following affidavit to wit I James McWhitney do solemnly swear that I did serve as a volunteer militia man (a private) in the war of the revolution under Capt Levi Stockwell & Lieut. Thos. Boggs during the term of nine months. we were stationed at the Stone house at Shanesborough (now called White Hall) at the head of Lake Saratoga. Also the follow- -ing year I served another term of nine months as a volunteer militia man in said war in Col. Walbridges Regiment under Capt Palmerly, Allen Lieut. Jonathan Wright & Lieut. Saml. C. Stewart. We were stationed three miles from the aforemen- -tioned Stone house the British having the preceding winter burnt said house. Also the year which terminated said war (one year having intervened since my last campaign I served another term of nine months in said war as a dragoon to keep the Tories in subjection under Capt. Robert Arm- -strong and Lieut Robert Littel. We rendezvoused at at a place then called Great White Creek (now called Salem in the State of New York. I was in the service of the United States
James McWhitney
Sworn to & subscribed before me the day and year above mentioned Andrew Philips Just. Peace

State of Illinois Pike County Aug. 15, 1882
Personally appeared before me Joanna Sharp personally known to me Andrew Philips a Justice of the peace within & for said County and took and subscribed the following oath, to wit,
I do solemnly swear that I was acquainted with James McWhorter previous to & during the war of the rebellion and know him to be the same person who subscribed the above affidavit. I also know that said McWhorter was in the service of the United States during the war of the rebellion three different campaigns. One campaign he served under Capt Stockwell. One under Capt. Allen & One under Capt Armstrong but How long the campaigns lasted I do not know but understood them to be nine months each. I resided at that time about six miles from Shenesborough and frequently saw said McWhorter under arms and doing duty as a soldier
oldier
Attest N E Lundy
Joanna Sharp Mark
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year above mentioned before me
Andrew Philips Just. Peace

State of Illinois Pike County Aug. 15. 1832
This day personally appeared before me Andrew Phillips one of the Justices of the peace within and for said County took and subscribed Elvin McWhity of lawful age, known to me personally and took & subscribed the following oath, and I do solemnly swear that I am personally acquainted with James McWhity who subscribed the first affidavit, also I was personally acquainted with Capt Stockwell mentioned in the preceding affidavits before his death and have heard said Stockwell say that said James McWhity served under him as a private in the war of the Revolution & in the service of the United States during the term of nine months
Attest V. O. Lundy
Elvin McWhity his mark
I own to ever subscribed this day and year above mentioned before me
Andrew Phillips Just peace

State of Illinois } William Ross Clerk Pike County } of the County Commissions of said County do
hereby certify that Andrew
Andrew Philip the within named Andrew Philip Esq. who subscribed his name to the within affidavit is and was at that time an acting Justice of the Peace and that full faith and credit would ought to be given to all his official acts as such in and for the County aforesaid
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of said County at Atty this 15th day of August AD 1832
W. Ross Clk
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Pittsfield, March 8 th 1854.
Hon. S. L. Edwards,
I again send you the papers, in relation to the claim of James McWhitney, for a pension, with all the additional evidence I can procure, you will perceive, that the additional evidence consists of his own affidavit & that of two other persons made near two years ago, forwarded to your Dept., & returned for want of form. I have thought it best to send you these old affidavits, rather than take new ones, as they coincide so well, with the declaration of McWhitney made in Dec. last, that it must be almost conclusive, proof of his service. The only discrepancy that you can discover on comparing the affidavits made first & the declaration made subsequently, is in regard to the manner in which he first entered the service, which can be reconciled very satisfactorily by this fact, that on making his last declaration, he stated that he entered as a volunteer, but on my interrogating him closely I found that he entered as a volunteer substitute —
I am sure arguments are necessary to induce you to extend to this applicant, the assistance of Government, numberless facts of his being in want of assistance could be adduced, but as there can be no doubt, but he served his country, he feels confident, that when age has rendered him helpless, poor, & destitute, that Government, will intersperse its aid to smooth the declining years of one of her defenders.
Please communicate to me at Pittsfield, Pike Co., Illinois, the result of this application, I am, Sir, Yours &c. James Davis,

Guggerville, Illinois, February 21, 1932.
Commissioner of Pensions. Veterans Administration Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
I should like very much to secure information about two Revolutionary soldiers buried in this county. They are:-
1. David Callis , a Revolutionary soldier, who became a member of the U.S. troops after the Revolution. Died and buried in Pike County, Ill.
2. James McWhitney , a pensioner, buried in Pike County, Illinois.
Any further information you can give me about these men, would be greatly appreciated, for when their war record is verified, we hope to give the graves suitable markers. Thank you.
Very truly yours, Mrs. Harry A. Kopp,