Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 22115, for Lemuel Rose, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York.
Rose, Lemuel Amy
W. 22115.
CONTENTS

Let. to Charles A. Floyd, (widow) May 31, 1839
24. 217 New York Samuel Rose
of Kentucky in the State of New York who was a Private in the Comp. commanded by Captain Grinnell of the Regt. commanded by Col. Smith in the N.Y. C.R. two for 16 months
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of $3 Dollars 33 Cents per annum. to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 8 day of Nov: 1833 and Little Blanche Smith minor
Arrears to the 14th of Sep. 33 $133.33 Semi-ant. allowance ending Mch. 31 26.66 $159.99
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by G. C. Stiles Clerk, Book E, Vol. 1. Page 118.

New York 5512
Amy Rose widow of Samuel Rose
who was a pensioner under the Act of June 1832 and who died on the 3 rd June 1834 of Suffolk Co. in the State of N. York who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain Griffin of the reg't. commanded by Col. Clinton, in the N. York line for 6 months
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 20 Dollars ————— Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 16 th day of June 1840 and Ser't Charles A. Floyd Commack, N. York
  Arrears to the 14th of March 1840  80.00    Semi-annual allowance ending 6 Sept.  10.00     $ 90.00  
{ Act July 7, } 1838. }
Recorded by D. Brown Clerk, Book A. Vol. 2. Page 99
Let. to Col. A. Floyd, July 11, 1840.

Annack N.Y. Feb 20 th Feb. 24. 18 add. proof Amy Rose
J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington

Conneaut February 20 th 1840
Sir
Enclosed I forward to the department the Affidavit of Morris Brown an old & respectable inhabitant of this Town residing near this village where he has always resided, who states that he knew Samuel Rose & Amy Nicky from the time he was a stout Boy knowing that they have lived together as husband & wife for upwards of fifty & that he has no doubt that she is the same person described as Louhama in the Church Certificate. Indeed such is the general belief through this vicinity & several affidavits to the same effect can be obtained. I have been acquainted with the Nicky family for upwards of twenty years & particularly two of the old woman's brothers (Gilbert & Ebenezer Nicky) now deceased who have frequently told of the marriage of Rose & their sister, that it was a kind of runaway match, her parents being opposed to it. I hope however that the facts stated in the Affidavit will be satisfactory.
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Yours with respect Charles D. Lloyd
N.B. I did not deem it necessary to get a certificate from the Clerk of the County that Judge Smith is a Judge as there is one on file to that effect now & is the same Magistrate before whom the papers are sworn to before us.
C.D.L.

25938 Lumer Road
Adm 1. year and 4. Months. 
$ 53. 33. —
Elmer and Smithtown Suffolk New York
COMMISSIONER OF EXCUSIONS.
in account with 1770

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Aug. 3. 1833.
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Samuel Rose
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Enlisted 1775 17 — — — Capt Grinnell 77 Huntington Traditionary evidence   Apr 1776 — 6 — — Ca Smith Living witnesses  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops. 2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers. 3. Persons employed in the Naval Service. 4. Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1852. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and state in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (S) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion ( g ) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of _____ &c.
 If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out. 
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this                      day of                      &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (1) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For ————— year ————— months, and ————— days, I served as a —————. For ————— months and ————— days, I served as a —————; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must fix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration. 5
It does not appear that there were any enlistments or terms of Militia service of 8 months or such as in March 1775

✓ Vawter Ser o 4096
Amy Rose
Act of 1838
Col Clinton } 775 Capt John Griffin } Col Livingston } 5 months Capt Griffin } —
Lorena Mulls Married 6 March 1777 Husband died 3 June 1834
Admitted Private 6 months Admitted Private 6 months
Charles A. Floyd Esq Commack N.Y.

Sworn before me this 5th day of July 1839 Richard M. Cooklin Judge
Charles Chapman Clerk of the Court
State of New York } Suffolk County }
I George G. Phillips, Clerk of the County of Suffolk aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County. Do hereby certify, that Richard M. Cooklin Esq. whose name is subscribed to the annexed affidavit, was, on the day of the date thereof, a Judge of the said Court of Common Pleas, which is a Court of record, and further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of such Judge, and verily believe that his signature to the said affidavit is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said court, this twelfth day of July 1839.
Geo. Phillips Clerk

I Charles Sturges do hereby depose and make oath that Ebenezer Prine was formerly a clergyman presiding as such over the Presbyterian church at Huntington, and that upon searching the records of said church, in my official capacity as Clerk of the same, I find the following entry viz "1777 March 6th, Married Samuel Rose and Louhama Weeks — Huntington"
Sworn before me this 5th
day of July 1839
Richard M. Conklin Judge
Charles Sturges Clerk of the Presbyterian Church
State of New York } Suffolk County }
I George G. Phillips, Clerk of the County of Suffolk aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County. Do hereby certify, that Richard M. Conklin Esq. whose name is subscribed to the annexed affidavit, was, on the day of the date thereof, a Judge of the said Court of Common Pleas, which is a Court of record, and further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of such Judge, and verily believe that his signature to the said affidavit is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said court, this twelfth day of July 1839.
Geo. Phillips Clerk

State of New York,
Suffolk County ss On this thirty first day of May in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred & thirty nine personally appeared before the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Suffolk Amy Rose a resident of the Town of Huntington in said County aged seventy nine years on the 14 of June 1839 who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her Oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7 th 1838 entitled An Act granting half-pay & pensions to certain widows: That she is the widow of Lemuel Rose who was a soldier in the revolution & was placed on the Pension List for the said services, that he was in the battle on Long Island.
She further declares that she was married to the said Lemuel Rose on the 6 th day of March A D 1777, and that her husband the aforesaid Lemuel Rose died June 3 d 1834, that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the first of January 1794. V iz at the time above stated Sworn to & subscribed on this 11 th day of July A D 1839 Amy Rose
Joshua B Smith Judge

I Joshua B Smith one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Suffolk do hereby certify that I have personally examined the above named applicant Amy Rose as to the facts by her above set forth & have no doubt they are true & that such belief is general in the neighborhood where she resides & I do further certify that the said Amy Rose from bodily infirmity cannot attend Court in order to make her declaration
Joshua B Smith Judge
State of New York } County of Suffolk }
I George S. Phillips, Clerk of the County of Suffolk aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County, Do hereby certify that Joshua B. Smith Esq., whose name is subscribed to the annexed affidavit and certificate, was on the day of the date thereof a Judge of the said Court of Common Pleas, which is a court of record - and further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of such Judge - & verily believe that his signature to the said affidavit and certificate is genuine. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the said court this twelfth day of July 1839 -
Geo. Phillips Clerk

Samuel Rose Declaration — 25738
Ms. B. 1. 6 v. 2 p. 10
Howe

State of New York County of Suffolk
On this First day of January personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in & for said County now sitting. Samuel Rose a resident of the Town of Smithtown in the County of Suffolk & State of New York aged seventy seven on the fifteenth day of December last past. Who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States as a volunteer in the month of March 1775 for the term of eight months under John Grinnell as Captain, Samuel Smith Lieutenant, & Alexander Hitchcock Ensign. That after the formation of said Company they remained awhile at the Town of Huntington in said County where he enlisted - That soon after they were marched to the East end of Long Island & remained there about four months, when the Company returned to Huntington aforesaid where they remained about three weeks & were then marched to New York to relieve the troops from New Jersey & that the Company remained in the City about three months, The Company were then marched to Fort Constitution on the North River & remained there until the period of Enlistment had expired. But at the solicitation of Capt Grinnell & other officers the Company generally voted to stay until regularly relieved & the Company did so remain until the month of March 1776, when the Company returned home to Long Island. That he again enlisted in the service of the United States in or about the first of April 1776 in a Company commanded by Nathan

il Platt, Henry Doudeder Lieutenant & Smith Ensign for the term of six months in a Regiment comman- ded by Josiah Smith as Colonel. That the Company was divided & remained at Huntington where he enlisted & part was despatched over to the South side of Long island to protect the inhabitants from the incursions of the enemy by their boats & from the Tories, to the latter belonged the adversary & remained there untill they were marched to the West of Long island, & was in the battle that took place there. The day previous to the General engagement Adversary was detailed to go with a Capt Carlisle as a scouting party to watch the movements of the enemy on the Eastern part of the Line, on which occasion they were engaged with the enemy some time & then retreated within the Line & joined his own company. Adversary was in the trenches that were thrown up on that occasion & recollects seeing Lord Stirling & Genl Sullivan on the hill near by where adver- sary was stationed when they dined. After the battle he retreated to York Island & from thence to Newleaves where he stayed a day or two when he was dismissed & returned home to Huntington on Long island. That he knew by sight Genl Washington Genl Putnam Lord Stirling Genl Sullivan & Genl Howe was also pointed out to him. That he has continued to reside in the Town of Huntington & Smithtown untill the present time That he has no documentary evidence now in his possession showing his services, That he actually served out the term for which he enlisted. That James Griffith & Jonas Wood can testify as to the fact of his service under Capt Platt he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.

Be it remembered that on this Twenty eighth day of August A Dighteen Hundred & thirty three before me Joseph M. ... the Court of ... of the County of Suffolk personally appeared Samuel Rose who being duly sworn deposeth & saith that by reason of old age & the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below & in the following grades under Capt Grinnell for the period of eleven months including his service at Fort Constitution as a private, In Capt Platts Com- pany he served as a private for the period of five months and for such service I claim a pension, and the said Samuel Rose further deposeth & saith that the Com- pany commanded by Capt Grinnell was attached to & belonged to the Regiment commanded by Colonel ...  Cochran and that during the time he performed the said services, he was not employed in any civil pursuit. And the said Samuel Rose further states in an- swer to the several Interrogatories prescribed by the Department answers. To the first, He saith that he was in the town of Hun- tington in the County of Suffolk & State of New York December 15 th 1754.
To the second, He saith he hath no documentary evidence of his age now in his possession but the same is set down in a Will now in the possession of Widow Hoff, a resident of the Town of Brook- haven in said County of Suffolk.
To the third, He saith that when he entered the service he was living in the Town of Huntington in Suffolk County, that since the revolution he has resided in the Towns of Huntington & Smith- town & that he now resides in the Town of Smithtown.
To the fourth, He saith that he entered the service as a volunteer in both cases of his service.
To the fifth, He saith he knew Genl Washington Genl Putnam Genl Sullivan, Genl Stirling, Genl Woodhull, Colonel Cochrane ling of the Militia, Colonel Peter also of the militia.

To the sixth is He saith he never received a written discharge from his Commandant but only a verbal discharge -
To the seventh. He saith that Silas Gull John Gull Smith Woodhull Jeffrey at Woodhull John Nicky Gilbert Nicky William Nicky Ely, Morris, Bunn are persons to whom declarant is known & who can testify as to his character for veracity & their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution -
Sworn before me this
30 th day of August A.D. 1835
Joseph R. Huntington Justice of the Peace
Isaac C. Rose

Suffolk County ss I Moses Benjamin a clergyman residing in the Town of Smithtown in the County of Suffolk hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Lemuel Rose who has subscribed & sworn to the annexed declaration, that I believe him to be thirty seven years of age, that he is generally received in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution & that I concur in that opinion sworn before me this
10 th day of August A D 1833
Moses Benjamin
Joseph R Huntington Justice of the peace
I Joseph R Huntington I do hereby certify that Moses Benjamin who has subscribed & sworn to the foregoing Affidavit before me is a clergy- man resident in the Town of Smithtown in the County of Suffolk is a credible person & that his statement is entitled to credit
Joseph R Huntington
Suffolk County ss I Joseph R Huntington Clerk of the Court of Com- mon Pleas of the County of Suffolk do hereby certify that Joseph R Huntington is a Justice of the Peace in & for the County of Suffolk and that the signatures of the said Joseph R Huntington to the foregoing Affidavit & supplementary declaration of Rose are his genuine signatures. In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the Seal of my Office this thirtieth day of August Eighteen hundred & thirty three
Joseph R Huntington Clk

Suffolk ss. On the 10 th day of December, In the year of our Lord one Thousand Eight Hundred and Forty two, came personally before me Ellis Carr (or so it is known to me) of the Town of Huntington in the County of Suffolk and State of New York, aged Seventy one years, and being duly sworn, deposed and saith, that he has been well acquainted with Samuel Rose for Sixty Years. That he recollects the said Samuel Rose going from Hunting- ton aforesaid some time in the year One Thousand Seven Hundred & Seventy five and it was reported and this deponent believes that the said Samuel went in on some Military Expedition in the the United States service
Subscribed and sworn before me the day & year first written. Wm Wickz Justice of the Peace
Ellis Carr
I certify that the deponent who made the above statement is entitled to full credit and belief Wm Wickz Justice of the Peace
Suffolk County ss. I Joseph A Huntington Clerk of the County of Suffolk & Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, do hereby certify that William Wickz before me the annexed affi- davits were taken and at the day of the date thereof a Justice of the peace of the said County as further I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said William Wickz & truly believe that the signature of the said William Wickz is his own proper hand writing
Given this first day of January Eighteen hundred & thirty three Joseph A Huntington Clerk

In Witness whereof I have hereunto subscribed my Name & affixed the Seal of the said Court this first day of January Eight een hundred & thirty three
Joseph R Huntington Clerk
Cath. J. Ellis Clerk

Suffolk County
On the 10 th day of December. In the Year one Thousand Eight Hundred and thirty two. came personally before me. James Griffiths of the Town of Huntington in the County of Suffolk & State of New York, aged Seventy four Years. and being by me duly sworn deposeth & saith that they are knowing to Samuel Rose being in the United States service in a Company under the com- -mand of Capt. Nathaniel Platt in the Regiment commanded by Col. Jonah Smith. that the said Samuel enlisted in said Company in the Year 1776. that the said Samuel served at a place called Fresh-pond in the Town of Huntington as deponent believes about two Months, at intervals, that is a part of said Company were stationed a while at said place & then would be relieved by another section of said Company. that deponent is knowing to the said Samuel being ordered to the west End of Long Island. and of his the said Samuel being in the Battle of Long Island in August in the Year 1776. that after Long Island was taken by the British Troops the said Samuel came back to Huntington with deponent & that said Samuel was in the United States service at this time for Six Months, so further deponent saith Not
Subscribed & sworn before me the day & Year first above written. William Kirkpatrick of the town of Huntington
James Griffiths Jonas Wood
I certify that these deponents who made the above Statements are entitled to full credit & belief William Kirkpatrick of the town
Given this first day of January Eighteen hundred & thirty three Joseph A. Huntington Atty

Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid before me
N.B. Declarant has no documentary evidence of his age in his possession but his age is set down in a Bible now in the possession of the Widow Buff - was born in the Town of Huntington December 15 th 1754
James Buff
Sworn and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Attest Joseph A Huntington Clk
Suffolk County ss. I Ellis Gull of the Town of Huntington in the County of Suffolk aged 71 years being duly sworn deposeth & saith that he is well acquainted with Lem- uel Rose who has subscribed & sworn to the above dec- laration that I believe him to be about 77 years of age, that he is reputed & believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolu- tion & that I concur in that opinion
Sworn & subscribed before me this day of 1832
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the in- vestigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier & served as he states - and the Court fur- ther certify that it appears to them that Ellis Gull James Griffin and Joseph Wood that they are residents of the Town of Hun- tington & are credible persons & their statements entitled to credit
I Joseph A Huntington Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Suffolk do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the applica- tion of Lemuel Rose for a Pension -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this first day of January Eighteen hundred & thirty three
Joseph A Huntington Clk

4096
Amy Rose

State of New York Suffolk County ss
Amy Rose of the Town of Huntington in the County of Suffolk aged seventy eight years on the fourteenth day of June last past makes the following declaration of facts in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed July 7 th 1838 saith that she was married to Samuel Rose on the sixth day of March seventeen hundred & seventy seven at Huntington in the said County of Suffolk by Rev. Ebenezer Primea Clergyman now deceased. That the Record of her said Marriage was set down in a small family Bible which she believes is now in the possession of one of her daughters residing in the State of New Jersey. That her husband Samuel Rose who was a Revolutionary Pensioned under the Act of June 1832 died June 3 d 1834, that since the decease of her said husband she has resided principally with her son Phinehas Rose
Subscribed & sworn before me
this 21 st day of December A.D. 1838
Amy Rose
Joshua B Smith Juyg
Suffolk County ss Phinehas Rose of the Town of Smithtown in the County of Suffolk being duly sworn deponeth & saith that he is one of the children of Amy Rose above mentioned. that he was fifty seven years old on the fourteenth day of September last that from the Record of the Bible mentioned by her & which he has frequently seen & from conversations in the family he has no doubt she was married at the time she states that he had an elder sister who would if now living be fifty nine years old, that his father Samuel Rose died at the time set forth by his mother in her declaration
Subscribed & sworn before
me this 21 st day of December 1838
Phinehas Rose
Joshua B Smith Juyg

Suffolk County ss Conklin Weeks of the Town of Huntington in the County of Suffolk being duly sworn deponeth & saith that he is fifty three years old, is a nephew of Amy Rose the above named deola- rant, that from reputation & conversations in the family of his fa- ther & from his knowledge of the ages of some of the children of the said Amy Rose who are personally known to him he has no doubt that she was married as she states, that she now resides with this deponent & on his charity that Samuel Rose died as stated by her.
Sworn before me this 21 st day of December 1838
Conklin Weeks
Joshua B Smith Judge
I Joshua B Smith one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Suffolk do hereby certify that I have personally examined the above named applicant Amy Rose as to the facts by her above set forth & have no doubt they are true & that such belief is general in the neighborhood where she resides, & I do further certify that the said Amy Rose from bodily infirmity cannot attend Court in order to make her declara- tion if required by the department.
Joshua B Smith Judge
State of New York } ss Suffolk County } I George S. Phillips, Clerk of the said County do certify that Joshua B. Smith whose name is subscri- bed to the foregoing certificate & affidavits, was on the day of the date thereof, a judge of the court of Common Pleas in & for said County, and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said judge, & verily believe that his signature above subscribed is genuine - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the Court of Common Pleas of said County, this twenty first day of December 1838 -
Geo. S. Phillips Clerk

Roy WIDOW, &c.
File No. 23115
Fanny Rose Widow of Samuel Rose Pr. Newmas
Act July 2 nd 88
Index: Vol. 16 , Page 176
[Arrangement of 1870.]

V N York.
Amy Rose
lit. to C. A. Floyd 16 Nov. 1839
to same 30. May 39.
to same 6. Feb. 1840
to same 9. May 1840
Rejected
to Hon. J. B. Jackson 21. May 1840
Acts July 1838

Rose
May 18. 1840
Not J. L. Edwards Commission of Pensions Washington City
J. D. Jackson H.R.

Home of Dept 18 th May 1840
Sir
I understand that Charles A. Lloyd Esq. of Suffolk Co. New York a long time ago forwarded to the pension office papers for Mrs. Amy Rose for a pension - Mr. Lloyd is of the opinion that the case is a clear one, and desirous of knowing what has been done in the matter - you will please do me the favor to inform me
Very respectfully J. L. Edwards Esq. Thos. B. Jackson

Stamach N.Y. June 11 th
f
June
1874
J. L. Edwards Pension Office Washington
Charles St. Helene Esq. Connaught
P. VALENTINE & Co SUFFIELD CONN

Pension Office May 9. 1840
Sir,
The statement of Morris Barr enclosed in your letter of the 20 th February last in the case of Mrs. Amy Rose, widow of Lemuel Rose, is herewith returned. It cannot be admitted as evidence unless the witness is certified credible by the magistrate before whom she was sworn. The official character of the magistrate must also be duly authenticated.
I am respectfully Your Ob't. Servt.
J L Edwar
Charles A. Floyd, Esq. Commack N. York

High Hills N.Y. Dec. 23 rd
7 July 1838
18 1/4
4096
CNY
Spec No
James L Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.

Dix Hills Suffolk Co New York December 22 d 1838
Sir
Enclosed is the declaration of Amy Rose made in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of July 1838. If upon examination it should be found to be deficient, my apology is that I could not obtain any form for making the application. As to the facts set forth in the declaration so far as I have been able to ascertain, there is no doubt in the neighborhood of their truth. I was personally acquainted with her husband Samuel Rose for many years & partially with the old woman & know by reputation & conversation with a Brother of hers now deceased that they were actually married. It may be observed by you that the signature of the old woman is in too fair hand for one of her age, it was written by her with my assistance in steadying her hand in the presence of Judge Smith her son & nephew. If there should be any deficiency either in the form or substance will the department be kind enough to point them out that they if possible may be remedied.
Respectfully yours &c Charles T. Floyd
J. L. Edwards Esq

Cornmack N.Y. Dec. 5 th
double
Ans
Ans
Printed by the N.Y. A.S. Socy
Dec. 9. 1839
Geo M Crump Esq Pension Office Washington

Dr Sir
I enclose the original papers of Amy Rose & should have done so when the supplement was you term it was sent, but suppose that it was so informed that it was of no consequence to set her friends to hunting up Rose's evidence of her marriages.
By the Certificate of the Clerk it appears that the name Louhamma, notwithstanding, she is the same & the widow of Lem Rose, I was personally acquainted with Rose for some twenty years prior to his death & know the widow to be his wife & that she is now a widow living upon the charity of her son & neph-ew deceased & pulsed with age & infirmity
Comstock Decem r 2 d 1839
Yours, &c.
Charles N. S. Lloyd

Suffolk County ss Morris Burr of the Town of Huntington in the County of Suffolk being duly sworn deposeth & saith that he is now in the seventy fifth year of his age, that he knew Samuel Rose & Amy Wickz when he was a Stout Boy, that he has worked with Samuel Rose before his marriage with Amy Wickz, that Amy Wickz when a young woman worked for his mother that he has known them from that time until the present, tho' he can't state when they were married but does know that they were married & lived together as husband & wife by reputation for upwards of fifty years, he further states that they have always lived about the Town of Hun- tington & Smithtown ever since, with the exception of one or two years when they lived on the South side of the Island, that Samuel Rose never had any other woman to wife but the said Amy Wickz - does not recollect of ever hearing her called by any other name than Amy it was by that name she was commonly known & called and that he has no doubt that she is the same person described in the Church Certificate as Loukama Wickz from before me
this 19 th day of February
1840
Joshua B Smith Judge
Morris Burr
I Joshua B Smith one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the County of Suffolk Do certify that I am acquainted with Morris Burr who submitted the above Affidavit that I believe him to be of the age by him stated and that he is reputed & believed to be a man of truth & veracity in the neighborhood where he resides perhaps

no man in his standing in society more so, and that full faith & credit ought to be given to his statements and I further certify that I have become satisfied that Amy Rose was the wife & now widow of Lemuel Rose & that she is so known & believed by all in the neighbor- hood where she resides & that full credit ought to be given to her statements, May 27 th 1844
Joshua B. Smith Judge
State of New York } County of Suffolk } I George S. Phillips, Clerk of the County of Suffolk, and of the Court of Common Pleas of said coun- ty, do certify that Joshua B. Smith - whose name is subscribed to the foregoing certificate - was at the date there- of a competent judge of the Court of Common Pleas - a- foresaid - and that his signature above written is genuine - In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court & County, this thirtieth day of May - in the year one thousand - eight hundred and forty -
Geo. Phillips Clerk

P'keepsie July 30 See Mr. Hoag N.Y. Oct 7 July 1838 Amy Rose (D) Deed pen
37 1/2
John L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington

Rev. S. H. Hogg N.Y.
Delhi N.Y. July 30
Oct 7 July 1838
My Rose Dear Cousin
27 1/2
John L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington

The Entours are agreeable to the form furnished & the evidence as far forth as the petitioner is able to procure —
Dix Hills July 29 th 1839
Yours & Charles D. Floyd
Committee of Pensions

Annack N.Y. July 6 th July Rose Myrtle
J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington

Commack July 4 th 1840
Sir
I acknowledge the Receipt of a Pension Certificate for Mrs Amy Rose widow of Samuel Rose allowing her Twenty dollars per year for five years from March 1836. I was led to believe that she would be entitled to the same pay that her husband received which was I think eight dollars per month. Therefore apprehend there has been some mistake in the Certificate, will the Commissioner be kind enough to explain the matter to me if it is correct, or correct the Certificate if wrong I regret to trouble you with the matter, but it is so great a disappointment that the Old woman insists upon it.
Very with respect Charles A. Floyd
J. L. Gurney Esq