Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S.17508, for Jacob Ide, Massachusetts

SERVICE
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Ide, Jacob
S. 17508
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15383. Massachusetts
Jacob Ide
Bristol in the State of Mass who was a Pirate in the company commanded by Captain _____ of the Argo commanded by Lord Dagon in the War line for 13 (One 20. Days)
Miles
Enscribed on the Roll of Mass the rate of 45 Dollars 55 Cents per annum, commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 11 th day of June 1833 and Sent Hon J. S. Woodhull Present
Arrears to the 4th of June 1833 $91.10 Sem-ant. allowance ending 4 Sept 22.77 $113.87
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
recorded by J. H. N. Blair Clerk Book 4 Vol. 2, Page 38
Bristol

10284
Jacob Ide
Pr at 13 Mo 20 days
$4.55
14. 06
May 4 1843
P. 372
A Bapst E Taunton (Mass)

(10.284)  BRIEF in the case of  Jacob Ide  of Attleborough in the State of Mass ts  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Open Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 77 years —  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Mil ts enlisted   Years, Months, Days.     19 April In 1775 not stated 20 Private Gen. Capt J. Ellis — Co s enlisted   18 June do 15 do do — do do   December do 3 do Capt S. Richardson do do   Oct r & Nov r 1776 1 1/2 15 do Capt J. Ide do do   Winter of 1778 & 79 3 Serg t Col J. Daggett Reg t do   August 1778 1 1/2 15 Private Capt M c Williams do do   Sep r 1776 not stated do Col M c Carpende Reg t do   1780 1 1/2 20 do Capt S c Robinson Co s do  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none stated  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? at Attleborough Mass ts  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? by Witnesses, — & the traditional evidence of two attys — one a clergyman — the latter with one of the Jds stated Witnesses — Certified to be credible persons —  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? The Official Seal of the Clerk of R. Island District, not affixed to the deposition made in Open Court —  I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
E. Stephens
Examining Clerk.

Capt Francis Ides dubitatio

Commonwealth of Massachusetts
County of Bristol ss on this Twenty seventh day of August In the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two
Personally appeared in open court before the Honorable Judge of the Probate Court now sitting at Taunton In the County of Bristol aforesaid by Rev. Ezekiel Dole a resident of Middleborough in said County aged 77 years Who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832
That he was born at Middleborough In the County of Bristol Commonwealth of Massachusetts on the 21 day of March A D 1755 and that there is a record of his birth in the town town of Middleborough That he was in the the United States Service from the 19 th day of April 1775 to about the tenth day of May following That he enlisted at said Middleborough and marched under Capt. Jeremiah Ellis of the 3 rd Regt. Middlesex on the evening of the day the Lexington battle was fought, he with others of his Townsmen marched from said Middleborough and through Taunton, Dighton and other Towns to Roxbury near Boston and were stationed there and served with others of the regular troops until the expiration of said term and he was then honorably dismissed without any winter discharge
That he was in the United States Service from the 18 th day of June 1775 to the second day of July 1775 That he enlisted as a private at Middleborough under Capt. Jeremiah Ellis of said Middleborough and marched with others of his Townsmen to Roxbury near Boston and was stationed there with the regular troops and served until the expiration of said term and was then dismissed without any winter discharge
That he was in the United States Service from some time in December 1775 to March 1776 he enlisted at said Middleborough and marched with others of his Townsmen to Roxbury near Boston and served there three months under Capt. Stephen Richardson and Capt. Pidgeon and was in no battle and at the expiration of said term he was dismissed without any winter discharge
That he was in the United States Service in October and November of 1776 and a half month at Warren in the State of Rhode Island under Capt. Isaac Dole his Father with the other regular troops and at the expiration of said term he was dismissed without any winter discharge

Commonwealth of Massachusetts?
County of Bristol Es. - - - -
Atleborough August 22, 1832
I Samuel Tingly of Atleborough In the said County of Bristol of the age of 79 years and duly engaged do testify and say that Capt Jacob Ide of said Atleborough was with me In the Service of the United States in the Revolution at Marlbury near Batten we marched from said Atleborough the evening of the same day the decisive battle was fought under Capt Jacob Ellis of said Atleborough and on arrival to Marlbury and were stationed and served there under Capt Ellis until our term of Service expired which was three weeks as near as I can recollect I also further testify that the said Jacob Ide was with me In the United States Service In the Revolution at Marlbury we Marched from said Atleborough the next day after the battle at Bunkerhill in June 1775, we were stationed at Marlbury with the other troops under Capt Jacob Ellis of said Atleborough, and served there two weeks
I further testify that the said Jacob Ide was with me in said Revolution at another time at Rhode Island In the time of Sullivan's Expedition In the months of August and September for the term of one month and a half I further testify that the said Jacob Ide was with me In the Service of the revolution In the year 1776 at Warren In the State of Rhode Island under his father Capt Jacob Ide we were there one month and a half
I further testify that the said Ide was with me at Fall River In the fall of the year 1778 or 9 I am not positive which we were under Capt Elipha May of Atleborough I think for the term of one month
I further testify that the said Ide was with me at an other term of Service at Tiverton under Capt Samuel Robinson for the term of one month and a half In the year 1780
Samuel Tingly

The within deposition sworn to and subscribed by the said Samuel Tingley the day and year within written before me
Noah Clafin justice of Peace
Commonwealth of Massachusetts, County of Bristol ss May 23. 1832
This may certify that the subscriber is well acquainted with Samuel Tingley the subscriber to the within deposition that he is a respectable man and a credible witness
Noah Clafin justice of the Peace

I Philbrook Barrows of Wallisford in the state of Vermont engaged according to Law do depore testify & say that I was in the service of the united States with Capt. Jacob Ide three months at Roxbury in Massachusetts in the year 1775. we were in the company commanded by Stephen Richardson & Lieut. Joseph Dodge.
Philbrook Barrows
Bristol Jp. June 27. 1832 Then personally appeared Philbrook Barrows subscribed to the above deposition and made oath to the truth of the same before me. ✓
Levi May Jus. of P. Peace
I further certify that the above named Philbrook Barrows is a credible witness & on whose testimony full reliance may be placed
Levi May Jus. of P. Peace

I Zephernick Bishop of Attleboro in the State of Mass s engaged according to law as testify & say That I was a soldier of the army of the revolution in Warwick in the State of Rhode Island & That Jacob Ide served with me as orderly sergeant in the company commanded by Capt. Deers Welmouth & Col. John  James Buzzell's regt. for the term of three months in the year 1778 & I further say I saw then & saw Jacob Ide in the service on Rhode Island at the time of Sullivan's expedition. how long he was there I cannot say & further I say I was at the battle of Redbank & I said Ide was with me there about two weeks I further say that said Ide was at New York as near as I can recollect all two months in the company commanded by Capt. May & Col. Carpenter's regt. in the year 1776
Levi May
Zephernick his Bishop mark
Bristol ss. July 26. 1832 Then personally appeared Zephernick Bishop & made oath to the truth of the above deposition before me
Levi May Jus. of P. Dean
Bristol ss. May 18. 1833. This may certify that the subscriber is well acquainted with Zephernick Bishop who has subscribed & sworn to the above deposition that he is a respectable man & a credible witness
Levi May. Jus. of P. Dean

I Reuben Ide of Daulop in the County of Worcester & Commonwealth of Massachusetts of lawful age be engaged according to law do testify & say that I was in the service of the United States in the revolutionary war at Warwick in the State of Rhode Island for the term of three months in the year 1778 in the Company commanded by Capt Moses Wilsworth & Col Dugitts regiment & that Jacob Ide was with me during the same term of three months in the same Company & regiment & served as a faithful soldier during that time. & further the deponent saith not.
Reuben Ide
Bartolp. Augt 8. 1832. Then personally appeared Reuben Ide subscribed to this instrument & not made oath to the truth of the same before me
Levi May Jus. of P. Peace
Bristol p. May 18. 1833. This may certify that the subscriber is well acquainted with Reuben Ide who has subscribed & sworn to the above deposition. That he is the a respectable man & credible witness
Levi May Jus. of P. Peace

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Bristol ss. I James Symonds, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for said County of Bristol, do hereby certify that Noah Bliss & Samuel May Esqrs. whose signatures are affixed to the within & annexed certificates are Justices of the peace in and for said County of Bristol and duly qualified to administer oaths.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court this third day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two
J. Symonds
Walter Hale
Stephen H. Cope
Isaac D. Dyer

Disposition of Eben Jordan in Rhode Island State Hester
Ebenezer Jordan In the City of Providence

Distric Court of the United States, August Term 1832. Rhoda Fleg Distric t
Ebenezer Jorden of Boston in the County of Providence on oath do testify & say that I am now in my 79 th year of age & that I am well acquainted with Jacob Ide of Middleborough in the State of Massachusetts and I further testify that in the year 1776. that said Jacob belonged to Capt Jacob Ide's company of Massachusetts Vol. Artillery in the revolutionary War & served in the same company in actual service for the space of six Weeks at Warren Bristol & Kingston This fact I know having served in the same company myself as privat. The said Capt Jacob Ide was father to the present Jacob Ide of Middleborough Ebenezer Jorden Mark attest - Benja. Lowell
Distric Court August Term 1832.
The above Ebenezer Jorden made oath to the above deposition, in open Court, & the Court order it to be certified that said Ebenezer Jorden is a credible witness - Benja Lowell Clk
not officially certified to by the Clerk

That he was in the United States since In the winter of 1778-9 for the term of three months, he enlisted as a orderly Sargent In the Company commanded by Capt. Mops Wickworth of Said Attilborough and marched from Said Attilborough to Warwick in Rhode Island State and served there with the regular troops for the term of said In Col John Deyett's Regt. of Militia and was honorably discharged.
That he was in the United States since, in some time In August 1778 to some time in the last of September or about the first of October following he cannot be positive as to the exact date but he recollects that he served at this time one month and about he enlisted as private under Capt. Mops Wickworth and marched from Said Attilborough to Warren and passed over onto Rhode Island and was there at the time the battle was fought in Sullivan's expedition. Served the term of said and was dismissed without any written discharge.
That he was in the United States since from the first part of September 1776 to the first part of December following he enlisted at Said Attilborough under Capt. Eliphalet May of Said Attilborough In Col. Thomas Carpenter's Regt. he marched In company with the rest of the Regt. to what was called Rye Neck near White Plains in the State of New York where he was stationed and served for the term of said and was honorably discharged about 200 Miles from home.
That he was in the United States since for the term of one month and a half In the year 1780 at Scituate In the State of Rhode Island in the Company commanded by Capt. Samuel Halpinan of Said Attilborough, he enlisted at Said Attilborough with Samuel Tinsley and others of his townsmen and marched with the others to Said Scituate and was stationed and served there until the expiration of said term and was then dismissed without any written discharge.
Jacob Ide
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
H. Baylies, Judge of Probate

Sept. 4. 1832
We John Ferguson a Clergyman residing in Attleborough and Noah Claplin — residing in the same town hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Jacob Ide who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy seven years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhoods where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
John Ferguson Noah Claplin
Sworn to and subscribed, the day and year last forementioned
H. T. Baylies, Judge of Probate.
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the court further certifies, that it appears to them that John Ferguson who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman resident in the town of Attleborough in said County of Bristol, and that Noah Claplin who has also signed the same is a resident in said town, and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
H. T. Baylies, Judge of Probate.
Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Bristol ss.
I Anselm Bassett, Register of the court of Probate in and for said county do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Jacob Ide of Attleborough in said county, re a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand, and seal of the said court, the day and year first last above written.
Anselm Bassett
Public File
7.

17508 INVALID.
File No. 17,508
Great Falls
Montana
Act: June 7 th 1892
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 189
[Arrangement of 1870.]

10.284
BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims , of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Jacob Ide which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Service not all stated — VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
Clerk's seal not affixed to the act of the District Court of Rhode Island

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? not all Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? [Signature] XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 7 th not answered
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Personally appeared before me the Subscriber a Justice of the Peace in & for the County of Bristol and Commonwealth of Massachusetts, James Ide who being duly sworn, deponeth and saith that by reason of the age the consequent loss of memory and lapse of time he cannot swear more positively as to the precise lengths of his services in the Revolutionary war unless it can be so considered from the following That as it respects the first term of service mentioned in his declaration he now thinks and believes that it was not less than Twenty days he served as a private under Capt. Ellis at Newbury unfinita That as to his second term of service mentioned in said declaration he has nothing further to add as to the 3 rd term of service for his said declaration mentioned he served not less than three months as to the 4 th term of service as afore said he served not less than one and a half months as to the 5 th term of service as aforesaid he served not less than three months As to the 6 th term of service in his declaration mentioned he served not less than one and a half months as to the 7 th term of service mentioned in his declaration on he now says he served not less than two months And lastly as to the 8 th term of service in his declaration mentioned he now says he served not less than one and a half months In all these cases he served as a private excepting one at the town of Newbury at Warwick under Capt. Moses Wetmore for 3 months, there served as orderly serjeant And for the foregoing services he claims a pension In answer to the seventh interrogatory presented

by the rear department he refers to Rev John Ferguson and Noah Claplin Ely whose names are affixed to their certificate for the declaration
Commonwealth of Massachusetts County of Bristol ss. May 18 th 1833
Jacob Ide
Subscribed and sworn to before me
Noah Claplin Justice of Peace
Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Witnesseth. I Anselm Bassett, Register of the Court of Sessions in for said County do hereby certify that Noah Claplin whose signature is affixed to the above certificate is a Justice of the Peace for said County of Bristol —
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court this twenty fifth day of May Eighteen hundred & thirty three.
Anselm Bassett