Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 8554, for William Rose, North Carolina

SERVICE
NUMBER
N 6
Rose, William Elizabeth
N 8554
CONTENTS

25194 Kentucky
See letter 3 Sept 1836
William Rose
a Whitley in the State of Kentucky who was an Ensign in the company commanded by Captain Searcy of the 1st regt commanded by Col. Burton in the Kentucky line for 1 year and 4 months
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 160 Dollars 00 Cents per annum. to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 6 day of Dec 1833 and there shall be paid to him the sum of
Due to the 4th of Sept 400.00 Sem-ant. allowance ending 4 March 80.00 480.00
160 160 80 400
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Danl. Boyd Clerk Book E Vol. 1 Page 26
Ballinger Knoxville Barbersville

95
Kentucky
Elizabeth Rose, widow of William Rose, who died on the _____
of _____ in the State of _____ who was a P h Ensign in the _____ commanded by Captain Lacey of the reg t commanded by Col. Barton, in the N Carolina line for 16 months.
10 months Private $33.33 6 do Ensign 60.00 $93.33
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 93. Dollars 33. Cents per annum, to commence on the 12 th day of March February 1835
Certificate of Pension issued the 19 th day of October 1836 and sent to G.S. Baltinger, Barboursville
Arrears to the 4th of Semi-annual allowances ending
Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the
Recorded by Wm S Allison Clerk, Book Vol. 1 Page 203
For correspondence &c see inside envelope
date of death not shown on agency book.

47 Elizabeth Rose Kentucky
Admitted
62 on Oct 10th 1860 10 mo 10 d. 33.33 93.83
See original papers W. Rose
Further states that

1836 1 and 12. 1836
Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the 3 d section of the act of Congress of the 4 th of July 1836.
State of Kentucky } Whitley County } ss
On this 12 day of August 1836 personally appeared before the undersigned William Siler a justice of the peace for Whitley county Elizabeth Rose a resident of Clear Fork in the county of Whitley and State of Kentucky aged 78 years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 4 th 1836. That she is the widow of William Rose who was an Ensign in the Militia of the army of the revolution whose affidavit is now on file in the war department to which she refers for a history of his services.
She further declared that she was married to the said William Rose on the 18 th day of March in the year seven hundred and seventy four as near as she recollects that her husband, the aforesaid William Rose died on the 12 day of February 1835 and that she has remained a widow ever since that period as will more fully appear by reference to the proof hereto annexed.
And she further states that her son William Rose was born during the revolution and that her husband was in the service, but returned about that time, hired a substitute six weeks until her child was born and then returned and remained with her. That she has three children older

 know than William; know and Christina, but does not recollect what year, nor can she recollect any noted circumstance that happened about that time. William was born on the 1 st December after Gates defeat, and all of them after her marriage with William Rose. That she was married in Grand County North Carolina by Robert Dickins. That she knows of no person now living who was present at the time of the marriage. She states That during her marriage she had 10 children. The oldest of whom is now about 60 years of age, and the youngest between 37 and 40. And that she is from bodily infirmity unable to attend Court. That she was present when her husband's declaration was drawn up by Mr. Ballinger who is now judge of the 16 th Kentucky Judicial district, and by reference to the ages of her children assisted her husband in determining the times when he performed certain tours of duty.
Elizabeth her Rose Mark
Deposition of John Powell taken at the house of Ephraim Rose in the County of Whitley and State of Kentucky who deponeth and saith that he has been well acquainted with the above named Elizabeth Rose and her husband William Rose for 48 years that he has always understood they were married and living together during a portion of his services in of the Revolution and never heard the fact doubted, and that since the death of her husband William Rose, that she has not been married since, that she is a woman of good character, and that her statements, are entitled to belief. That he would judge her to be 78 years old. He further states that his was about his age, and that he is now
64 in said Rose in S. Court State process 183 and court to all persons who are of mere always Rose what

64 years old this day - Given under my hand 12 th Aug st 1836
Deposition of Ann Powell taken at the house of Ephraim Mark Rife in the county of Whitley, and state of Kentucky who deponeth and saith. That she is the daughter of William and Elizabeth Rose about 57  58 years of age, and that the facts stated in the deposition of John Powell are substantially true
Ann his Powell mark
I William Siler a justice of the peace for Whitley County state of Kentucky certify that the foregoing statements of John Powell and Ann Powell in order to procure the benefit of the act of Congress passed July 29 th 1836 was sworn to before me this 12 th day of August 1836 and I further certify that I do not believe she is able from extreme old age and bodily infirmity consequent thereon to attend court which is a distance 8 miles from her present place of residence
I further certify that John Powell and Ann Powell who have sworn to and subscribed the foregoing depositions are of my own knowledge credible persons and their statements entitled to credit. Ephraim I further state that I have known Elizabeth Rife for about 30 years, and have always understood that she was the lawful wife of William Rife deceased and that implicit reliance may be placed in what she says Given under my hand this 12 th August 1836 William Siler J.P.

State of Kentucky Whitley County
I do hereby certify that William ... is affixed to the preceding Certificate as a part of the peace for Whitley County and by virtue of his office and of the seal of the Whitley County Court and that the signature hereunto is his genuine signature.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name this 12th day of August 1836
Andr. Conway CLK D Whitley County Court
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No 28.598
William Rose Whitley Co. Kentucky,
from 1780 Ensign 16 months #160
P. Ballou Nashville
Wm R. Johnson H. R.

Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June the 7 th 1832
State of Kentucky } Whitley County } } Set
On this 19 day of November 1833 personally appeared before the undersigned an acting jus. of the peace for Whitley County William Rose a resident of Whitley County State of Kentucky on the waters of Linn Creek, on the main road leading from Jacks Borough Tennessee to Barboursville Kentucky and about 22 miles from the latter place aged 76 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June the 7 th 1832 of the United States
That he entered the service under the following named officers and served as herein stated - that he volunteered in the state of North Carolina Granville County when he resided at that time in the spring of 1780 for a tour of 8 months as well as I remember under Capt. Bartlet Leary, Lieut. Linn - he rendezvous at Hillsborough - then he recd. the appointment and commission of Ensign - we staid here some little time - then we marched to Salisbury - Thence down Pedee River, then on the road to join Genl. Gates we were joined by Genl. John Butler. When in about 7 miles of Camden we heard of the defeat of Genl. Gates at that place and we retreated back to Hillsborough - here we staid a short time - and in Sept 1780 as well as I remember we marched in the direction of Wilmington - and staid at Col. Robert Baugh's near a small village name not recollected - here we staid some time - in November I was permitted to return to my family - on account of the condition of my wife, on the first of December 1780 I had a son Ben whom I called William who is now living

in 5 miles of me - when my wife got so that I could leave her I joined my company again - there having been a fresh call for men - those who volunteer- ed with me at first having served out their time - Stephen Miret was kept Joseph Langston First I again was ensign, but whether I rec d a second commission or not I can not remember but am inclined to think I still held the first commission I was constantly engaged with my company in scouring the surrounding country, disarming the Tories and marching against them when ever they collected in numbers - I remember I was at Hillsborough when we heard of Tarleton's defeat at the Cowpens Cornwallis pursued Morgan but did not overtake him shortly after this Cornwallis came to Hillsborough and then put out a "Proclamation" (the old soldiers word) for all to join him and receive protection - a great many did join him - at that time Genl. Butler and the militia under him were in the lower end of Gran- ville county - I was with him - after this - Corn- wallis marched to Guilford as I understood - the com- pany to which I belonged was never with the army of Genl. Greene although we were often in a few days march of him - I remember nothing of importance as to my service being constantly engaged as before stated in endeavoring to put down the Tories, until we were ordered on to join Washington at Yorktown before we got there Wallis had surrendered and we returned to our native state - shortly after this I resigned my commission of ensign and return- ed to my family - this commission has been lost for years - it was given by Governor Burke and Col. J. Taylor handed it to me
I twice hired substitutes during the revolu- tion to serve in my place when drafted but being informed that I am entitled to nothing for this I do not mention them although to one of them

substitutes John Saturn I gave a negro boy near 5 years old and about $30 worth of property besides - my wife was then in the family way which caused me to hire Saturn - I cannot state the precise length of my service as an ensign owing to old age and bodily infirmity and the loss of memory but from the best of my knowledge and recollection I served not less than eighteen months - I further state that I am and have been for four or five years unable to go to town when court is held - I employed a gentleman 12 or 15 months ago Dr. Hale of Williamsburg to draw up my claim - he left the country - and being unable to get about I have had great difficulty in getting some one qualified to draw up my claim which is now done at my own hand written upon a club board by a pine knot light the best I had to offer him - I remember of no one living by whom I can prove my service except except my wife who now sits by my side, nor have I any documentary evidence in my possession to prove my service - I entered the service in the spring I think March 1780 and except the time I was at home with my wife which did not exceed 6 weeks and then with a furlough) I was in the service until November or December 1781 at which time I resigned, I do not remember the names of any of the continental officers with whom I served but Genl. Gates - and he only for a short time - I was under Gov. Burke, Col. Latherwhite - there was a body of officers with Gates but I had nothing to do with them -
He hereby relinquishes every claim to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any state or agency Answer to 1
2 - I was born in Granville County on the Dan River in the year 1757 according to the best information I have 2 I have no record of my age

3 I was living in Granville County when called into the service - since the revolution I moved to Pendleton County South Carolina - thence to Powell's Valley thence to the County of White (then Knox) where I have lived for more than 15 years
4 I first volunteered as a private, but when we surrendered, I rec d the commission of ensign
5 Genl. Gates after his defeat was with the Troops when I served - I do not remember the number of any of the Regiments not even my own I know as Letterwhite was led d when at head quarters I was put under Col William Moore
6 I received a commission of Ensign signed by Governor Burke, I kept this paper with others in a bag - a part was burned in the house of my son Ephraim, and part had been previously destroyed by the children - I do not know in which of these ways my commission was destroyed
7 It gives me pleasure to state that I believe all to whom I have been known would testify to my character for veracity and their belief of my services as a soldier of the revolution - in my present neighbourhood I can name William Crowley Edward Bennett, Thomas Adkins an old soldier himself Rev. William Siler - who I doubt not would testify as to my character for veracity and their belief of my services as a soldier of the revolution
Given to and signed the day and year aforesaid
William Rose mark
I certify that I was the wife of William Rose the above applicant during his services in the revolution and the sister of Stephen Meritt one of the captains under whom my husband served - the Lieut Joseph Poynton was my step-father - I can not speak as to dates with certainty but I know my husband was ensign when Gates was defeated - that he was at home when my son William was born which was on the first of December - I do not know the year - but in a

month or two afterwards I heard the cannon that was fired when Waller took possession of Hillsborough and invited the people to take protection under him which I understood a good many did - I know also that my husband continued to act as ensign until he went to join George Washington at York Town when he returned home he resigned
I have often talked with my Brother Stephen Merrill about the services of himself, my step Father, and Husband
I know also that my husband hired a substitute, John Tatum, to go into the service in his room he gave Tatum a negro boy 4 or 5 years old, and $50 in Property -
I cannot tell how long my husband was in the service -
Given to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Elizabeth Rose mark
We certify that we have been intimately acquainted with the above applicant William Rose, and his wife Elizabeth Rose for 40 years - that during the whole of this time we have heard them both speak of the military services of the above applicant - that they are both creditable persons and their statements entitled to credit we believe him to be 76 years of age he has been understood in his neighborhood as since we know him to have been a soldier of the revolution and are confirmed in that opinion, we also know Stephen Merrill and have heard him speak of the services of the above applicant but whether as ensign or not we cannot say with certainty - We now reside in Madison County Kentucky and are upon a leave of absence in Whitley County upon a visit, without any implication of being called to testify in the above case
Given to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid John P. Powell mark Anne Powell (Anne Powell affirmed having complied about an oath)

I William Crowly residing on Bain Creek Whitley county Kentucky and a door neighbor of the above applicant William Rose hereby certify that I am well acquainted with him, I believe him to be 78 years of age that he is respected and beloved in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been an officer in the revolution and I concur in that opinion, and state that from bodily infirmity he is unable to attend court
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid
William Crowly Deputy
and I do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories presented by the war department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary officer and served as he states - and it also appears to me that Elizabeth Rose John Powell, Anne Powell, and William Crowly, who have each subscribed and sworn to the certificates above their names are credible persons and their statements entitled to credit, I further certify that I am a clergyman and neighbor of the above applicant living in about 2 miles of him and from my own knowledge I can say that the above applicant is a credible person and that he is understood in the neighborhood to have been a soldier of the revolution and that from bodily infirmity he is unable to attend court given under my hand this day and date above written William Siler
I Andrew Craig clerk of the county court of Whitley county do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings had before the above named William Siler in my presence I further certify that the said William Siler who has signed the preceding certificate is an acting justice of the peace for Whitley county Kentucky - and that the resignation

purporting to be his is genuine
Given under my hand and seal of Office this 19 th day of November 1833
Andrew Leary Clerk
Any information upon the subject of the above application will reach the old Goldin estate by Adamping Frank Ballinger Barbourville Kentucky
I have forwarded the claims of William McHargue, Henry Hurst, Brazzil Easton, Thomas Philpot, James Hall, Henry Shackelford, — Barton, Lewis Green from which I have rec d no answer
Very Respectfully
Frank Ballinger

Administrator for minor affidavit } Elizabeth Punton } Rose Whitley co Ky at 4 July 1836 or 7 July 1838.
J S Edwards Attorney Washington D.C.
Reserve Debits Cole Notary Public Reserve County Ky
Filed by J S Edwards Punton

Claim of Elizabeth Rose, } Act. of Congress 4 th July 1836. or 7 th July 1838. State of Kentucky } County of Whitley }
Be it known, that on this 27 th day of March in the year 1857. before me the presiding Judge of the county court in and for the county of Whitley in the state aforesaid: now in session, personally appeared J. W. Siler a resident in said county, and made oath in due form of law, that he is the administrator of the estate of Elizabeth Rose Rose, deceased, the identical person who was a Revolutionary pensioner under the act of congress approved 4 th July 1836 or act 7 th July 1838. as the widow of William Rose deceased, in the county of Whitley in the state of Kentucky at what time of pension for anytime he does not certainly know, that he is informed said pension ought to be increased. that he is only trustee as the Administrator of her estate, for the benefit of her surviving children, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence and argument as my agent may think proper to use in the prosecution of said claim in the pension office at Washington city, or else where. do hereby appoint J. S. Edwards of Washington city my Attorney to prosecute said claim. & do vest him with full power to appoint one or more attorneys under him for the above specified purpose Given under my hand this 27 th day of March 1857 J. W. Siler. (Adm)

A. B. King R. Taylor sue, if I include, and R. Taylor, President of Whitley county in the state of Kentucky, upon our oaths declare that the foregoing declaration and power of attorney was signed and acknowledged by J. M. Siler in our presence and that we believe from the appearance and statements of the applicant, that he is the identical person he repre- sents himself to be & that we are disinterested witnesses.
J. L. W. Gentry Seal A. C. King Seal
The foregoing declaration and power of attorney and affidavit were sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year first above written in open court, while in session in and for Whitley county in the state of Kentucky, & I know the applicants to be respectable persons & residents of said county of Whitley, and that the claimant is the person he represents himself to be & that I have no interest in this claim nor concerned in its prosecution. The name of R. Taylor in the above affidavit was erased before and the name of A. B. King was interlined before signed, and the word Judge, on the right was erased before signed.
John Smith Judge Whitley county Court

State of Kentucky } County of Whitley }
J. H. Watkins Clerk of the court in and for said County. certify that John Smith is and was at the time of making his foregoing signature the presiding Judge of the County Court in and for said County duly commissioned and sworn according to law. and that his said signature there- to is genuine. I further certify that
J. W. Gilar who has executed the foregoing declaration and power of attorney. did at a county court held in and for said county, on the 27 day of March 1887 take out letters of Administration on the estate of Elizabeth Rose who was a united states revolutionary pensioner of said county, and entered into bond as required by law to the value of three thousand dollars. which was approved by the said court and was ordered to be certified, as appears of Record in my office.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed the seal of said county and subscribed my name clerk of said County Court on this 27 th day of March 1887.
J. H. Watkins C.R.

In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of William Rose a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau. W. 8554
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Mch. 1780 to Nov. or Private Bartlet Searcy Stephen Merritt Thomas Satterwhite N. C.   Dec. 1781 Ensign William Moore                              
Battles engaged in, _____ Residence of soldier at enlistment, Granville Co., No. Carolina. Date of application for pension, Nov. 19, 1833. His claim was allowed. Residence at date of application, On Cane Creek  In Whitley Co., Ky. abt 22 miles from Barboursville Age at date of application, born in 1757 on Tar River, Granville Co., N. C.
Remarks: He married Granville Co., N. C., Mch. 10 1774, Elizabeth Merritt.  He d. July 17, 1835 & she was allowed pension on her application presented Aug. 12, 1836, while a resident of  Clear Fork, Whitley Co., Ky. 78 yrs. of age. Date of her death not stated, but letters of Administration said  to have been taken out Mch. 27, 1857. Ten children referred to, only four names stated viz: Hudson  b. abt. 1776; Christina; William L. b. first Dec. 1780; Ann Powell aged 57 or 58 yrs in 1836.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

1918 Dec. 2. Hist. to Sam C. Bird, F. 1921 June 6. Hist. to Philas S. Jones.
Revolutionary South Carolina
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 8534
Elizabeth Rose Wid. of William Rose Ensign N.C. Mil.
Act: July 4/36
Index:—Vol. 16 , Page 171
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Kentucky 95
Elizabeth Ross widow of William Ross of Whitley Co. in the State of Kentucky who was a R d Ensign in the Company com by Captain Lacey of the reg t com by Col. Barth in the N. Carolina line for 16 months.
  10 months R.  83.33    6 do Ensign  66.66     150.00  
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 93 Dollars 33 Cents per m th . to commence on the 1 st day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 19 day of Oct r 1836 and sent to G. F. Ballinger Barbourville
Arrears to the 1 st of Semi-ant. allowance ending 24 March 1836 $ 46.66
{ Revolutionary Claim } Rec d June 4 1838
Recorded by J. M. Wilson Book Vol. 1 Page 203
Edward
Oct 20 Jan 3
W. S. Williams
See letters 1 st Feb. 1837 to Hon. J. White H. R. & P. Agt.
Duplicate certificate issued 29 March 1837, and sent to Frank Ballinger, Barbourville
Paid at the Treasury under the act of the 6. April 1838 from 1. Sept 1838 to 4 March 1839. Agt notified 1. May 1840
John M. Wilson Apr 28 1854 J. M. Wilson July 13/54 "6 same " 31 J. S. Benner May 4. 1857.

Act 4 July 1836 Elizabeth Rose Kentucky
Suspended. Her letter 3 Sept 1836 A. Craig Esq. Eld. Cnt.

William Rose. Enr. at $300. under Act of 7 th June 1832 and the 52 nd Feb y 1835
3 rd Inad ss office Octo 29. 1836
William Rose Revolutionary Pension act 1832 Kentucky admitted file
Daugh 20m.
Monnt. D r Venable Rockcastle County Ky. 5 th July 1834
Sir
will you be so kind as to give me a certified statement of the amount of pension William Rose of Whitley Co. Ky. drew, and the time also that the pension was allowed to him Most Respectfully Yours &c
L. Newcum

11/27 11/27 11/27
11/27 Barboursville Ky Mch 18
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11/13 5th floor Rev. J. L. Edwards Commissioner of Union Washington City D. C.
Home & Office 11/27

18 March 1837
Dear Sir
I regret that I am obliged to write to you again about the pension certificate of Elizabeth Rose Widow of William Ross - At first a power of att o to draw the money from the 12 th Feb. 1835 th (the time of her husband's death) was forwarded to the agent for paying pensions in Lexington Ky - but it was rejected upon the ground that it should have commenced from 4 March 1835 - to meet the views of the case another power was executed, and upon its presentation, rejected because nothing was due - I then wrote from Lexington to our Member in Congress John White, who brought the case again before you, upon reexamination, you decided that she ought to be permitted to draw from the 12 th Feb. 1835, without making any deduction, for what might have been erroneously drawn by her Ex o husband Mill. Ross - I again presented my power of att o with your letter to the pension agent, who declined paying it, because according to the last instructions it ought to commence on the 12 th Feb 1835 - In bringing the papers home, or after I got home I do not know which I lost the certificate - I have therefore to request that you will cause another to be forwarded, directed to me at this place
Your obed t Serv t Frank Ballinger

This day Frank Ballinger personally appeared before the undersigned an acting justice of the peace for Knox County Kentucky and made oath that the facts stated in the foregoing letter to J. P. Edwards, so far as made upon his own knowledge are true, and so far as made upon the information of others he believes to be true given under my hand at Backooville Ky 17 th March 1837. It further appears from my own knowledge that the said Ballinger is a credible witness.
John Patton
Knox county } Set Kentucky }
I James F. Ballinger clerk of the Knox County Court certify that John Patton whose signature appears to the foregoing certificate is a justice of the peace for Knox County Ky, and his signature genuine given under my hand and seal this 17 th Feb. 1837
James F. Ballinger Clerk of the Court of Knox County.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Second Comptroller's Office,
April 20 th , 1840.
Sir: u
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Elizabeth Rose, — a Pensioner on the Roll of the Kentucky Agency, at the rate of ninety three Dollars and thirty three Cents per annum, under the law of the 4 th July 1836, has been paid at this Department, from the 4 th of Sept. 1838, to the 4 th March 1839.
Respectfully, yours,
William B. Patridge
Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.

P.S. Write to me at Paducah Ky H.B.
Hon. John White Washington City D.C.

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Sept. 1. 1876 Lindons Office.
Kan act 4 July 1876
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Barbourville Ky. Oct 9 day-
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Oct 18
Hon. J. P. Edwards
Washington
City D.C.
Ken
case
4 July 36

Pension Office, May 4, 1857
Sir,
A re-examination of the case of Elizabeth Ross, of Kentucky, will be made when you point out the error committed by the office in the computation of pension which was allowed her -
John S Edwards, Esq
Present

War Department Pension Office
September 3 rd 1836.
Sir,
The papers in support of the claim of Elizabeth Rose under the act of 4 July 1836, on account of the revolutionary services of her deceased husband William Rose have been re-examined and filed with suspended cases in this office. Upon a re-examination of his declaration on file it does not satisfactorily appear that he was an Ensign during the whole period of his service, or that he performed continuous service for so long a term as eight months. It would appear that he served in two different companies and yet has but one commission. It has been ascertained that the militia did not serve so long as alleged, and unless direct proof be exhibited showing the duration of the actual service performed by the husband of the claimant, she cannot be allowed a pension for more than six months service at the rate of the pay of an Ensign. The name of the persons who may transmit the necessary testimony to this office should be made known, otherwise no further action can be had in the case.
I am respectfully Your obed. Servt.
J. L. Edwards
Andrew Craig Esq r Whitley Co. Ky. Kentucky.

Parkerourville Ky 13 th Aug. 1836
The counsel of Mrs Elizabeth Row has just called upon me to state what I know about the getting of a pension for William Row - and the marriage between him and the present applicant for a pension. In reply I have to say - that I acted as the counsel of William Row who represented himself to have been an Ensign the army of the revolution - that I drew up his statement and that of the witnesses thereto connected in the winter of 1833-4 as well as I remem- ber - I have a distinct recollection that I done the writing on a slab-board used as a shovel, and that his wife the present applicant held a pine-knot light for me to write by - and if I am not greatly mis- taken this fact will be found in his statement. I know nothing of the marriage except what
I know nothing of the marriage except what I then heard from the old man & old lady who is now an applicant - The old man had some difficulty in fixing upon the particular date of his service, and the old lady frequently refreshed his memory by reference to the time of their marriage. The length of time from their marriage until their first child was born, and that whilst "chunky" with such a child he performed such a tour - then by counting the age of the child they fixed upon the year, which when he still had the most doubt he stated as well as I can recollect

These conversation were continued through a space of six or seven hours and I believe the then applicant was indebted for dates from to the recollection of his wife the present applicant than to his own memory - I cannot doubt that they were living together as man and wife during a portion of his service in the war of the rebellion, my opinion is during the whole of it - nor have I any reason to doubt but what they were in fact what they professed to be lawfully man & wife. Upon the death of William Rose, I suspend the present applicant's power of att n to draw for her what was due and believe that she correctly states the time of his death (S.S) 13 th Feb. 1835 - I know several of their children who are beyond the meridian of life
Frank B. Ballinger
Given to before me the undersigned an acting justice of the peace for Knox County Kentucky this 13 th day of Aug. 1836
John Patton J.P.
State of Kentucky } Knox County } J.P.
I James F. Ballinger Clerk of the Knox County Court certify that John Patton whose name is subscribed to the preceding certificate is a justice of the peace for Knox County and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is his genuine signature given under my hand and seal of office this 13 th Aug. 1836
James F. Ballinger Clerk of the Court of Knox County

Leamington 26 Jan. 1837
Dear Sir
I have hitherto troubled you about the claim of Elizabeth Rose for a pension
You will perceive from the enclosed letter that I have caused her claim, under her certificate to be presented for payment duly authenticated, but it seems according to the instructions given to the pension agent here that before she can make a draw she must settle the error which the War department now supposes they committed in favour of her deceased husband — I feel confident that a fair interpretation of his statement for a pension, shows that he performed all his service as ensign, and that his unfortunate widow ought to have had the annual allowance made to him (£160) but if I am mistaken in this, surely I can not be mistaken in supposing that the act of congress under which her claim arose intended to give her something without requiring her to pay the government, what the pension department now thinks was erroneously allowed her deceased husband — but if I am mistaken in this the department may as well, at once strike her from the roll for I am well satisfied, she cannot live three years, I wish you to bring the attention of the proper

Authorities to this subject, and to inform me as speedily as convenient, what is to be the result, I hope that I have not the slightest interest in this matter, have a disposi- tion to see an unfortunate, superannuated woman have what I consider justice done her
Yours sincerely Frank Ballinger
I am of opinion, that the widow is entitled to her pension from her husband's death (July 12 th 1835) without being subject to any deduction on account of the amt. erroneously paid to her husband.
J. V. H. Butler
Feb 13 th 1837.

Bethourville 8 Oct 1836
Hon. J. E. Edwards
At the instance of my Brother Gabriel P. Bellinger I address you upon the subject of the claim of Elizabeth Rose to a pension under the act of 4 th July last. He informs me that he has rec d a letter addressed to Andrew Gray Clerk of the Whitley County Court from one of the clerks in your department which is herewith enclosed.
To you I rec d a letter of introduction from the Hon. R. M. Johnson - afterwards I had the pleasure of a personal interview - being presented by the Hon. R. P. Letcher in May 1834. Upon these guarantees of character I continued to prepare pension papers until I abandoned the profession of the law. In allusion to these facts to excuse myself for the liberty I now take, in introducing to you my Brother G. P. Bellinger who has prepared the papers of Mrs. Rose -
I prepared the papers of William Rose under very disadvantageous circumstances - and it may be that they are liable to the objection stated in the letter, but I know full well if they are, that the fault lay in me, and not in him for I know he stated that he performed his entire services as an ensign - and under two, if not more commissions. If the objection now taken, had been then made, I am quite sure the error could and would have been corrected without delay - now it is impossible - These considerations

have induced me, at the instance of my Brother to ask of you a reexamination of the pension paper of William Rose
If in your judgment they are unsatisfactory to prove a service of eight months as ensign. The Widow must abide the consequences and consent to receive whatever your opinion may award. But I would most respectfully suggest that as the allowance was once made without fraud or mistake conceding the fact that upon reexamination it is not entirely satisfactory ought not the allowance to be continued, especially as, the higher grade of proof required by the act places it perfectly out of the power of any Widow, whose husband had not made proof ever to establish her claim
I tender to you, and the clerks of your department my grateful acknowledgements for past services - and take pleasure in saying that in the department of the government, state or national, have I anticipated the same attention and promptness in business
Very Respectfully
Your Obed't Servt
Francis Ballinger
P.S. please admp Gabriel P. Ballinger, Warrenton Ky. and whatever is to be done, let it be quickly for I do not believe the old lady will live a year - perhaps not half that time
F. B.

Elizabeth Rose esq Ms 129 15-36
M c Vernon Ky Ap 19
L. P. Waldo esq Commissioner of Pension Washington City D. C.
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St. Vernon Ky.
17 th April 1834
Mr L P Waldo Esqr
Sir I am requested by the heirs of Elizabeth Rose of Whitley County Ky. to of you the information when she was first allowed a pension the amount allowed her, and under what act she was allowed a pension, she was the widow of William Rose, who was a pensioner of Whitley County Ky.
Your early compliance with this request will be gladly received by your Most humble & obed Servt L Newman

We whose names are hereunto annexed state that we were present when the claim of William Rose was drawn up in Whitley County on a blank on the 19 th day of November 1833 by Frank Ballinger we know that he claimed a pension by virtue of his services in the revolution as an ensign - we further state that a pension certificate in the name of James Rose, dated at the War department 7 th Dec 1833 was presented by Frank Ballinger to have a power of attorney executed to enable William Rose to draw a pension - but from the difference in the name the oath could not be taken by William Rose, nor could the justice certify that he knew James Rose - who had set up a claim to a pension
Sworn to and subscribed this 27 th Decem- ber 1833 Frank Ballinger Andrew Craig
I William Siler a justice of the peace for Whitley County and state of Kentucky do certify that the above statement was sworn to before me by Frank Ballinger and Andrew Craig - I also certify that I did on the 19 th of Nov. 1833 swear William Rose to a statement drawn up by Frank Ballinger to procure him a pension - and signed my name then to in my official character given under my hand this 27 th December 1833 William Siler J P

PHILAS S. JONES, ATTORNEY AT LAW, WILBURTON, OKLA.
May 19, 1921.
Revolutionary War Records, Section, Department of the Interior, I. S. C. War File 8554, Rev. War.
Hon. G. H. Saltzgaber, Commissioner, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
I wish to know if you have any official records in your possession of the service of William Rose, who was a soldier in the Revolutionary War.
William Rose enlisted in March 1780 and served to November or December 1781. He went out from Grandville County, North Carolina and died on Cane Creek in Whitley County, Kentucky about twenty-two miles from Barberville.
His widow, Elizabeth Merritt Rose was granted a pension for honorable service performed as a Revolutionary soldier. The name of my mother was Mariam Rose who was the daughter of Ephrian Rose who was a son of this Revolutionary Veteran William Rose.
I am in possession of a copy of a letter which you wrote Mr. Sam C. Baird, First National Bank, Jellico, Tennessee, December 2, 1918.
I will thank you for any information as to my ancestors. I have lived in the West for forty years and know but little about him. Thanking you in advance for any information, I am
Yours very truly,
Philo S. Jones
PSJ:AF

7665.
Rev War m. 61
CAPITAL $ 25,000.00
SURPLUS $ 25,000.00
DESIGNATED STATE DEPOSITORY.
THE FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF JELLICO, TENN.
WM ELLISON, PRESIDENT SAM. C. BAIRD, CASHIER.
JELLICO, TENN., Nov. 22-1918, 191
Pension Office,
Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
Please supply me dates of birth and death of one William Rose, soldier for about seven years in the Revolutionary Army, from Richfield, Cabarrus County, North Carolina. Also, date of his marriage to Betsy Merritt Rose, to whom his pension was paid after his death. Please supply date of her birth and death if possible. Their last Post Office address was either Clear Fork, Ky., or Boston, Ky.
Yours very truly,
FIRST NATIONAL BANK.
Sam C. Baird Cashier.