Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 15509, for Elisha Lillie, Connecticut

SERVICE
born-
Lillie, Elisha
NUMBER
S. 15509
CONTENTS
carded

N o 18357 Vermont
Elisha Lillie
of Orange Co. in the State of Vermont who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain Rudd of the Regt. commanded by Col. M. Clapp in the Conn t Troops for 8 months
Inscribed on the Roll of Vermont at the rate of 26 Dollars 66 Cents per annum. to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 15 day of August 1833 and sent to J. K. Parlin Randolph Vt.
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 53.32 Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Sep. 1833 13.33
$66.65
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by D. Brown
Clerk,
Book E.
Vol. 3
Page 74

State of Vermont District of Randolph ss. On this 15 th day of August A D 1832 personally appeared in Open Court before the Hon. the Probate for said district now sitting at Randolph in Orange County district & State aforesaid Elisha Lillie aged sixty-eight years resident of Randolph in Orange County Vermont who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832 - That he was born in the town of Windham & State of Connecticut (and) that in the forepart of the summer of the year 1781 he enlisted into company for the term of eight months in the State Troops. Capt. Jon h Rudd enlisted him who was a capt. of the Militia Company in said Windham, he thinks the S d Capt. Rudd did not go with the troops. at the time the troops marched on to the State of N. York this declarant was sick & unable to go, but after the burning of New London he was ordered there, and continued in the service until the expiration of his enlistment & was dismissed. Col. M c Clellane commanded. the said declarant was immediately under Capt. Clough & Lt. Dekeil Cary, and was stationed at Fort Griswold in Groton. Con. just previous to the expiration of his enlistment he met with an accident, while on duty which caused a lameness of which he did not recover for as much as three months after, he was dismissed he has no documentary evidence and knows of no proof he can obtain except that of Byers L. Cottan whose affidavit will accompany this declaration. to prove his enlistment (and) service -
We hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension roll of the agency of any state -
Elisha Lillie
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Frederick Griswold Judge of Probate

Elisha Lillie. 2 d Declaration
State of Vermont
District of Randolph ss On the 10 th day of June A D 1833 personally appeared before the Hon. Probate Court now sitting at Randolph in Orange County Elisha Lillie who being first duly sworn according to law made the following additional declaration in addition to the one made on the 15 th day of August 1832 - in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of June 7. 1832
Elisha Lillie
He states that he is unable to make any farther proof of his service than that made in his former declaration but that he enlisted as stated & had permission from Capt. Rudd who enlisted him to remain at home when the troops marched in consequence of sickness but that after he was ordered to New London he served to the end of his enlistment, and was confined for a long time after with his family - he did duty in Holt about the whole time, of his service was a while in the Redoubt - he does not remember any officers of Field Rank other than those previously stated.
He was born at Windham Conn. in 1764 - age recorded in Bible & supposed to be recorded in town clerk's office in S d Windham when he entered service resided in S d Windham & since the war of the revolution nearly the whole time have resided in S d Randolph Vt. he enlisted by advice & consent of his father - He cannot state more particular the names of officers - did not receive any written discharge refers to Tilton Eastman, Wm. Hubbard, Stephen Hemenway
Dudley Chase William H. Hemenway for creditably Elisha Lillie
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid Calvin Dodge Judge
I William Hubbard Clerk or Register of said Probate Court hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court this day in the case of Elisha Lillie in his application for a Pension.
In testimony of which I have set my official name and affix the Seal of said Court this 10 th day of June A D 1833 -
Wm Hubbard Clerk or Reg r

We Tilton Eastman a Clergyman residing in Randolph & William Hobard residing in the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Elisha Lillie who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be 68 years of age that he is reputed & believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution & that we concur in that opinion - Tilton Eastman Clergyman The Whole
Sworn & subscribed this day & year aforesaid Frederick Gaiswald Judge of Probate
And the said Court do hereby declare the opinion after the investigation of the matter and putting the interrogatories required by the department, that the above applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states -
And the said Court further certify that Tilton Eastman a Clergyman & that William Hobard Esq. both residing in Randolph who have signed the preceding certificate both to this Court well known are credible persons & their statements are entitled to credit
J. R. Parish Clerk on Reg of the Probate Court aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Elisha Lillie for a pension -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 15 th day of August A 1832
J. R. Parish Clerk on Reg
By J. L. Cotton for E. Lillie

I, Byles L. Cotton, of Bethel in the County of Windsor and State of Vermont, do testify and say that I did do duty as an orderly Sergeant in Fort Griswold in Connecticut, that I did duty there in the months of January and February 1782 as such Sergeant, and that during those months Elisha Sill, former of Randolph in Orange County and State of Vermont, was there doing duty as a soldier in the Company in which I served. Byles L. Cotton
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State of Vermont ss At Rutland August 10th. A.D. 1932. Windsor County ss Then personally appeared Byron L. Cotton the signor of the above affidavit and said solemnly oaths that the same contains the truth and nothing but the truth. — And I hereby certify that the said Cotton is a credible person Before me Jonathan North Justice of the Peace Byron L. Cotton

1895- - -
Eliza Lillie
/
8 mos
$26.66
J. M. Parrish
Randolph
vt

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
22 April 183 1/2
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1781 & 1782 8 private Col. McAllen 69- 17 when entered service B. L. Cotton & own declaration - V traditional records  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.
Elish Lillie

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this                      day of                      personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of                      in the county of                      and State, Territory or District of                      aged (c)                      years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d)                      , with                      and served in the                      (e) regiment of the                      line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. (This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.)]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I                      of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of                      for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of                      &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the                      and C. D. residing in (the same)                      , who has hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with                      , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the                      and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the                      and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I,                      Clerk of the Court of                      do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this                      day of                      &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? { To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

15.509 INVALID.
File No. 15.309
Elishe Lillie
Per. S. v. 72
Act: June 7 th 82
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 225
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Apr 27 '90
Rec rpt of birth to J.W. Lilly, Chicago Ills.
St B

R. J. 28346-24 Jos. 21579-24 ✓ Remy 20488-24 ✓ E. 20474-24 ✓ A. 15809-24 D. 15031-24 J. 12131-24 E. 1884-24 ✓ (over)

40940 - J. Daniel 13759 - J. Nathaniel ✓ 42864 - J. Joseph ✓ 3609 - J. Elisha ✓ 42873 - J. Reuben ✓ 18946 - J. James ✓ 47694 - J. Elyah ✓ 22362 - J. Anson ✓ 47723 - J. Edward ✓ 26701 - J. Edward ✓ 48228 27100 - J. Wm C. ✓ 38914 - J. 40092 - J. John

June 17
East Randolph June 18 th
Hon. The Secy
P. 6
Adv.
VI
10.1.3

Randolph W. June 10. 1863
Hon. Secy. of War,
Sir. I herewith forward the papers of Elisha Lillie to the Department with the 2 d declaration made this day
Yours Respectfully
J. B. Parish

O. W. & N. Div.
I. W. B.
I. 15509
I. 13759
I. 22362
I. 42864
W. 20488
W. 21579
I. 27100
W. 1884.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
WASHINGTON, D. C., April 27th, 1896.
Sir:-
Replying to your request for information concerning certain Revolutionary soldiers bearing the name of Lilli, Lilley or Lillie, you are advised as follows:
Elisha Lillie made an application for pension on August 15th, 1832, at which time he was residing at Randolph, Vermont, and 68 years of age. Place of birth not stated.
Nathan Lillie made an application for pension on November 9th, 1832, at which time he was residing at Mansfield, Conn., and 73 years of age. He was born in Stafford, Conn.
Elijah Lillie made an application for pension on July 13th, 1832, at which time he was residing in Danby, Vermont, and 75 years of age. He was born in Windham, Conn.
Joseph Lillie made an application for pension on April 7th, 1818, at which time he was residing in Bainbridge, N. Y., and 61 years of age. Place of birth not given but he was residing in Conn. at time of enlistment.
Benjamin Lilley made an application for pension on February 2nd, 1819, at which time he was residing in Strafford, Vermont, and 64 years of age. Place of birth not given. Was residing at Mansfield, Conn. at enlistment.
Joseph Lilley made an application for pension on April 13th, 1818, at which time he was residing at Natick, Mass. Age nor place of birth not given.
William C. Lilly made an application for pension on November 21st, 1815, at which time he was residing in New York County, N. Y. Age nor place of birth not given.

Emmons Lilly made an application for pension on September 6th, 1832 at which time he was residing at Rupert, Vermont, and 72 years of age. He was born in Stafford, Conn.
For information concerning Abraham B. H. Lillie application should be made to the Hon. Secretary of the Navy, Navy Department, Washington, D. C. Concerning Henry M. Lilly, application should be made to the Hon. Secretary of War, War Department, Washington, D. C.
Owing to the pressure of other and more important work of the Bureau, and to the fact that there is no appropriation of money for carrying on work of this character, it would be impracticable for the Bureau to supply you with information concerning all the Lillies, Lillys or Lilleys who have made applications for pensions.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.
Mr. J. W. Lilly,
6524 Wright St.,
Chicago, Ill.

6524 Wright St Chicago Ill 4/20/96 Hon William Lochren
Commissioner,
Dear Sir:- Will you kindly tell me at what place the following pensioners resided at the time of making his application, also if application states the date of birth of each I should be glad to know the same. I am collecting data for a Genealogical record of the Lillie Lilly & LeLey family in America.
I have an unbroken record from Geo. Lillie who settled in Reading Mass about 1658 & desire the above particulars in order to verify & amplify my present records.
Thanking you in advance for the courtesy, I am
Yours Respectfully J. W. Lilly
Sheet ②

From W Lilly, 652 1/2 Wright St Chicago.
Orange Co Vt. Benj Lillie. Private Conn Cont Line Com. of pension 7/20-1819. Placed on Pay Roll 7/6-1819. 96-
Bennington Co Vt. Simmons Lillie. Private Mass. Cont Line Com pension 3/4-1831 - pl - on pay roll 1/2-1833.
Orange Co Vt. Elisha Lillie Private. Conn Militia 3/4-1831-8/15-1833. Rutland " " Elijah " " " " " 4/6-1833.
Tolland Co, Ct. Nathan Lilly N.J. Cont Line 3/4-1831 7/20 1833. Chenango Co NY Joseph - Conn Line 4/7-1818 3/26 1818 New York Co " " " " Bennett's Vt Arty 7/8-1815 4/24-1816
Jos Lilly Capt's tailor U.S.N. 3/13-1818 - 3/2-1819
Abraham S S Lillie Midshipman 4/25-1822 Grad-1866 Ensign 7/2-1828 Lieut 1870.
Henry M Lilly ap'd Asst Surgeon 3/28-1865 Must'd out 3/13-1867
Any others name of Lilly or Lillie &c found on Rolls, the writer would appreciate copy of same, as asked for above.