Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 17,053, for Matthias Rose, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
Rose, Matthias
S 17,053
CONTENTS
carded

Missouri 22.307 22307
Matthias Rose
Widow in the State of Mo.
who was a Private in the 1 o commanded by Captain Gordon of the Regt commanded by Col. Brigg in the Virginia line for 12 mos & 4 days
Inscribed on the Roll of Missouri. at the rate of 40 Dollars 44 Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 9 th day of Oct. 1833 and sent to Henry Chouteau Esq. St. Louis Mo.
Arrears to the 14th of Sept 1833. - 107.10 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Mar '34. 20. 22 $121.32.
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by M rs J. Salina Clerk, Book _____ Vol. 8 Page 87

State of Missouri, St. Louis County, p.
On this fifteenth day of February in the year 1833, personally appeared in open court, before the county court now sitting, Matthias Rose, a resident of said county & State, aged about sixty eight years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress, passed June 7 th 1832, That he entered the service of the United States under capt. Gordon, in a regiment or battallion commanded by Col. Trigg in Kentucky in the neighborhood of Lexington in the month of August in the year 1782, and went against the Indians which had been besieging Bryan's station, and was in the battle of the Blue Licks, where he was taken prisoner, and conducted by the Indians to Detroit, where, in company with his brother, and one Ipe Youcum, escaped from the Indians, and surrendered themselves to the British officer commanding at Detroit, by whom they were received as prisoners of war, and treated as such, and sent to an island called Prisoners Island, above Montreal, and afterwards was sent into Montreal, & drew rations as a prisoner until after the treaty of peace, when he was conducted, with several hundred prisoners, by Major Skene, a British officer, across the lake to Skene's borough, and delivered up to a United States officer, and then drew rations from the U. S. til he got home to Kentucky, and was paid by the U. S. his pay for the whole time from the day he entered the service in Kentucky til he got back, being a period of about two years & three months. And further declares that he has no papers, or documentary evidence, to prove his service, and knows of no person, whose testimony he

can procure, except Francis Hickman, whose knowledge is only circumstantial, and from general report, and belief, & that he has no personal knowledge of the facts of the above declaration. Sworn to & subscribed, the day & year aforesaid.
before me in open court.
Henry Chouteau clerk
Matthias Rose mark
We, Francis Hickman & Frederick Hyatt residing in the county of St. Louis aforesaid, do hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with Matthias Rose, who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration, and that we believe him to be about sixty eight years old, and that he is reputed & believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have fought at the battle of the Blue Licks in Kentucky, & to have been taken prisoner as set forth in his declaration.
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
before me, in open court
Henry Chouteau clerk
Francis Hickman
Frederick Hyatt mark

I Tho s R. Murch of the County of St Louis state of Missouri do testify That I have been acquainted with Mathias Rose for a number of years and believe him to be a just Honest man and I do believe that he has would do nothing to defraud neither to defraud private nor publick and therefore therefore believe him to be a man of Truth —
Tho s R. Murch
We the undersigned have been acquainted with the above named Thomas R. Murch (whose name is signed to the above certificate) for a number of years, and know him to be a clergyman and Preacher of the Baptist denomination, of good repute, among those who know him, for honesty, truth and integrity of character. At St Louis February 15 th 1833.
David Barton Frederick Hyatt
whose testimony re

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant, was a Soldier, and served as he states. And the court further certify, that it appears to them that Thomas R. Musick who has signed the preceding certificate is a Preacher of the Gospel, and that David Barton and Frederick Hyatt who have signed the certificate subjoined thereto, are as well as the said Thomas R. Musick residents of the county of St. Louis, and are credible persons, and that their statements are entitled to credit.
Matthias Rose 22.800
I, Henry Chouteau, Clerk of the County Court within and for the County of St. Louis in the State of Missouri. Do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of Matthias Rose for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court, at the City of St. Louis, this fifteenth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three.
Henry Chouteau Clerk
Amended Declaration.
This applicant testifies that the period of two years & three months stated in his original declaration refers to the time that he was absent from home , and not to the length of service , which would be about one year and a month, counting to the end of the war and his captivity.
Matthias his X Rose marks
Sworn to & subscribed in open court, before me this 7 th August 1833
Henry Chouteau Clerk

in the year eighteen hundred and thirty
Henry Chouteau Clerk
Amended Declaration.
This applicant testifies that the period of two years & three months stated in his original declaration refers to the time that he was absent from home , and not to the length of service , which would be about one year and a month, counting to the end of the war and his captivity.
Matthias his  Prose Marks
Sworn to & subscribed in open court, before me this 7 th August 1833 Henry Chouteau Clerk
- State of Missouri } County of St. Louis } ss I, Henry Chouteau, clerk of the County Court within and for the County aforesaid, do hereby certify that at a term of said Court begun and held at the City of St. Louis, on the fifth day of August in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and thirty three, Matthias Prose appeared in open court, and made the above amended Declaration in the matter of his application for a pension.
Given under my hand and the seal of said court, at the City of St. Louis, this seventh day of August in the year of our Lord, one thousand Eight hundred and thirty three.
Henry Chouteau Clerk

22840 20.307
Mathias Rose St. Louis Mo Missouri
Balance
Adm 1 year & 4 days.
$40.44
80.88 20.22 101.10
Henry Chouteau bkrn St. Louis Mo Missouri

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office.
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjained notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, showing the Service of Mathias Rose. St. Louis Mo. Missouri
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Ag. 1782 About 1 1 " Pvt Capt G. G. don Col. Frizz Blue Licks Indian 68 years near Lexington Kentucky Testimony  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. _____ who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the punishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
Joseph Raven Eve CLK

The applicant alleges to have been in the service of the U.S. for 2 years and 3 months. — This cannot be admitted — He entered the service in August 1882 and the war ended 4 Sept 1883. —

17053
INVALID.
File No. 17523
Matthias Rose
Pr. Geo. Wm.
Act: June 7 th 82
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 322
[Arrangement of 1870.]

This certifies that I was at the house of Mathias Rose, in Kentucky in the year 1790, and since that period he has resided more than twenty years within fifteen miles of my residence in Kentucky and this State. I have seen him frequently, and have never heard any thing against his character. Tho' better acquainted with Mr. Rose, than I am, speak of him, as an honest & correct man. The statement which he makes of his being taken prisoner in the battle at the Blue Licks in 1782, I am inclined to believe is correct, so far as his memory serves him, as it is in substance corroborated by what I have heard from men who were in that action.
St. Louis, Missouri January 5, 1833
Wm Clark