Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 152,00, for James Quackinbush, New Jersey

SERVICE
NUMBER
New Jersey New York
Quackinbush, James
S. 15200
Carded
CONTENTS

City of New York 31,775 James Quachimbust of N. York co. in the State of N. York who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Turner of the Regt. commanded by Col. Hawkins - in the N. York and New Jersey line for 6 months private.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 20 Dollars 50 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 16 th day of July, 1840 and sent to Hon. J. D. L. Montanya , Hon. Rep. Representatives - Arrears to the 4th of Sept. 1840 - $190:50 Pension allowance ending 4 Mar '41. 10:50 $200.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, { Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by S. S. Elliott Clerk. Book 2 Vol. 4 Page 60.
Order to pay. 25 th Sep 1841

33.843
Declaration
of,
James Quachin bush
Vol 4, p 24 - #15 36 - 19
March 29 th 1838
Ref d to the Committee on Rev d Pensions,
Rev d Pensions com d Emory 20 th
Rev. J. D. L. Montanya.
William J. Fraser. Agent Clarkstown Rockland Co., N. York
Wardlaw 105. Rev. Pen.

State of New York City and County of New York ss.
On this Ninth day of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty six, personally appeared in open Court. Before the Marine Court — now sitting at the City Hall in the City of New York, in and for the City and County of New York, James Quackenbush, a Resident within the County of New York, aged seventy eight years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832.
In answer to the interrogatories proposed to the said James Quackenbush by the said Court, as is in such case directed to be done. Answers under his said oath as follows to wit.
Firstly, That he was born at Schraalenburgh in the State of New Jersey, on the eighth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and fifty eight.
Secondly, That he has a record of his age in his own Bible, which he many years ago copied from the old family Bible of his Grandfather James Van Orden.
Thirdly, That when he was first called into service, he was living in the City of New York. That since the Revolution he has lived in the City of New York, and within the last thirty years has lived at Hips Bay about three miles from the compact part of the City, within the City & County of New York.
Fourthly, That he first entered the service as a Volunteer.
Fifthly, That some of the names of the Regular Officers, who were with the Troops where he served

State of New York City and County of New York ss.
On this Ninth day of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty six, personally appeared in open Court. Before the Marine Court — now sitting at the City Hall in the City of New York, in and for the City and County of New York, James Quackenbush, a President within the County of New York, aged seventy eight years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832.
In answer to the interrogatories proposed to the said James Quackenbush by the said Court, as is in such case directed to be done. Answers under his said oath as follows to wit.
Firstly, That he was born at Schraalenburgh, in the State of New Jersey, on the Eighth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and fifty eight.
Secondly, That he has a record of his age in his own Bible, which he many years ago copied from the old family Bible of his Grandfather James Van Orden.
Thirdly, That when he was first called into service, he was living in the City of New York. That since the Revolution he has lived in the City of New York, and within the last thirty years has lived at Ripps Bay about three miles from the compact part of the City, within the City & County of New York.
Fourthly, That he first entered the service as a Volunteer.
Fifthly, That some of the names of the Regular Officers, who were with the Troops where he served

and which he can at present call to mind after so long a period, are to his best recollection as follows. Colonel A. Hawks, Hays, Colonel Cooper, Major John Smith, Capt. Henry Tenure, Lieutenant Walter Van Orden, Captain Blauvelt, Captain Crane, Captain Armstrong, Captain Gardner Major Dubois, and Major Goetchius. The following named officers were to his best recollection some who were with the American Army, at or about the places where he performed most of his duty, and at and about the American lines in the State of New York and New Jersey as the Jersey line and Rockland County were contiguous - General Scott, Major Watfield, Colonel Drake, General Lee, General Mc Dougall.
Sixthly. That he never received as he can recollect any written discharge. That he once received a written appointment as Ensign  Lieutenant in Captain Blauvelts Company in New Jersey near the close of the war, but long since has lost the same.
Seventhly. That the persons known in his neighborhood to whom he is known, and who can testify to his character for Veracity and their belief of my services are William Westervelt, Samuel Delamater, Benjamin Romain, & Nebe, Brinkerhoff.
The said deponent further saith, that at the commencement of the Revolution, while a President of New York, & when measures were taken to put the City in a posture of defence which this deponent thinks was the latter part of the year 1775 or the very beginning of the year 1776, & which of the two his recollection does not enable him to say. The said deponent entered as a Volunteer in the Company of Captain Brown, the name of the Lieutenant he cannot remember, as he did not remain in the Company long enough to get his name so in his mind as to remember it after the lapse of so many years, while in this Company he was stationed in and about the City doing guard duty, and remembers, that he this deponent kept the Roll and done other writing at times. That he served in this company as near as this deponent can now recollect for a period of two months

This deponent further saith that after the service above stated was performed in Captain Brown's Company, he moved with his grandfather, James Van Orden just before the British got possession of New York, to Clarkstown in the County of Rockland, which as near as this deponent can now recollect was the latter part of the Spring or beginning of summer of 1776. — Soon after the British got possession of New York, and the British shipping sailed up the North River and anchored in the Haverstraw and Tappan Bay's. The whole of the Militia of Rockland County were called out, and this deponent entered himself as a volunteer in a company commanded by Captain Hendrick or Henry Tenne, Lieutenant Walter Van Orden, Regiment of Colonel A. Hawkes Way. That this deponent believes that it was in or near the month of July 1776 that he entered into service in this company, but to be so exact as to swear positively to the day and month cannot. That he was much engaged in scouting expeditions, but chiefly was engaged in doing guard duty, and was marched from time to time, as occasion required from Clarkstown, the chief place of rendezvous up along the banks of the North River as far up as the long and short cloves, and south again to the Hook, and so down south as Sneedens Landing, That this deponent served this year in tours of duty, commencing as he thinks in July, until late in the fall or the beginning of winter for a period not less than four months.
This deponent further saith, that in the year 1777. as near as this deponent can now recollect, the officers of the different Regiments (at any rate the Regiment of Colonel Hay) held a consultation together in order to devise a plan to enable some part of the militia who had families and farms, to remain some part of the time at home, or at least this deponent thinks that was the object, and the militia was put into Claps, each Clap as this deponent believes, served something like a week at a time, perhaps two weeks, about that cannot be sure, and was then relieved, so that all took their turn or provided a substitute — This Clapping he thinks took place early in the spring of 1777. and this deponent done duty in the company of Captain Henry Tenne

Commencing early in the Spring and served doing guard duty along the Banks of the North River, and was marched, to Nyack, Slaughters landing, Haverstraw, and so back again, and went as far South as Sneedens landing, and continued in this duty, as near as this deponent can recollect until the month of July, and then he this deponent was detached from Captain Tenure's company, and attached to the Company of Captain Gardner, and was marched from Clarkstown North as the Long Clove, and there encamped for a short time, and from there, (the next morning after Stony Point was retaken by General Wayne) marched in pursuit of the British, and pursued them until in the mountains, where in an opening we discovered where they had left their baggage in their retreat, which we took and the officers divided the same among the soldiers, and two Blankets fell to the share of this deponent. - This deponent was then marched to a place called Smiths Clove, near Suffern in Rockland County, and there served as a Guard over the prisoners that was taken at the surprising and retaking of Stony Point by General Wayne, after sometime was marched to Clarkstown, where he again joined the Company of Captain Tenure in whose company this deponent principally served, but as this deponent was a single man, and nothing else to attend to, he was often detached from the Company, and went upon Scouting expeditions in the Company of Captain Lawrence, and in the Company of Captain Crane, not only along the North River, but also into the State of New Jersey, down to a place called in the Dutch language Swans Brook, which was a sort of Rendezvous for the Militia, and also down to the Liberty Pole. That about this time as near as this deponent can recollect he went with Captain Lawrence's Company as far down as the English neighbourhood in New Jersey, and there took two British officers prisoners whose names he has forgotten, but believes the name of one was Captain Moody, that they were sent by Capt. Lawrence to head quarters. This deponent served this year doing guard duty, and upon the expedition to Stony Point, and Smiths Clove, and upon Scouts as heretofore stated from early in the Spring until late in the fall or the beginning of

winter, in tours of duty for a period not less than four months
This deponent further saith, That in the year 1778. He was early in the Spring doing second duty in the company of Captain Tenney, until about the month of September, as near as he can now recollect, soon after the British Army made an excursion on each side of the Hudson River with considerable force. The company of Captain Greene prepared for a scouting expedition, and this deponent volunteered as one to go into New Jersey, and after scouting some time at different places, marched on their return. (It being the night that a party of the British under the command of General Gray, as this deponent believes, surprised and took the greater part of Colonel Baylor's Cavalry as they lay asleep at Teppan) as far as the Barn of a person by the name of Hoogenkamp, when worn out with fatigue laid all night in the Barn, which was but a few miles south of the place of the Massacre. This deponent and the rest of the company slept quietly until morning, when they were alarmed, and informed that the British was above them, Captain Greene immediately paraded his men, and marched upon an eminence, and immediately discovered, that the British had surrounded them, and gave orders for every man to make his escape, when the greater part of the company were killed or wounded. This deponent and few others took a different direction and fortunately escaped, among those that were killed this deponent now remembers the names of John Burges & Jacob Archer, and that Lieutenant Blauvelt was among the wounded. That after this excursion, he done duty in Captain Tenney's company, although he might during the time, have also went upon Scouts with Captain Lawrence company, and in the company of Captain Gardner, as he this deponent was a single man, and no business at home, he was in the habit of so doing. That he was

1778 4 months engaged the greater part of this year in guarding the shore of the North River at the places heretofore stated, from early in the spring, until late in the fall or beginning of winter in tours of duty for a period of at least four months.
This deponent further saith that in the year 1779. the whole of the militia of Rockland County as far as his memory serves him, was called out, and had much to do, as the greater part of the American Army lay as this deponent now thinks at or near West Point, for the protection of that fort, and the British appeared to aim at little more than to plunder the unprotected part of Rockland County both of its property, and most valuable citizens, which in spite of the little force that remained they often accomplished, and took many of our best Whigs, and took them to New York, and confined them in the holds of Prison ships, and in the Sugar House and other places. That in this year the principal company in which he served was the company of Captain Henry Tenbroeck doing guard duty, along the North River, at the different places as is stated in the account of his services heretofore made, at Nyack, Long Clove, Sneekens Landing etc. and scouting often into New Jersey for a few days at a time, & then returning to doing guard duty. That the said deponent was engaged during this year from early in the spring until late in the fall or beginning of winter in thus doing guard duty and scouting, and was not engaged as this deponent can recollect in any other pursuit or business, and from Spring until late in the fall or the beginning of winter as above stated, in tours of duty for a period of not less than Six Months.
1779 6 months
This deponent further saith that in the year 1780 he was in Captain Tenbroeck's company early in the spring doing guard duty as usual, until in, or near the month of July, as near as this deponent can recollect. That about that time he

This deponent enlisted in the company of Captain Laurence for the period of three months, and marched to Sneadens Landing, and there encamped and done guard duty, and was sent out occasionally upon scouting expeditions, recollects that he this deponent was one of the number after his said enlistment that were engaged in a certain expedition from Sneadens Landing across the Hudsons River to a place called Morrisena a few miles from Kings Bridge in Westchester County, in order to take prisoner a Hessian General who quartered there by the name of Kniphausen, but failed in taking him, as he had it anticipated their movement and had gone to New York, After encamping some time at Sneadens after the return from this expedition, Captain Laurence was ordered to join with his men some other companies, attached to a Regiment as this deponent now thinks was commanded by Colonel Dubois from Ulster County, and this deponent with the said company were marched from Sneadens Landing to Kings Ferry above Haverstraw in Rockland County, and were there put on board of a Sloop and landed at Fishkill up the Hudson River, at which place lay Colonel Dubois Regiment, there encamped for about a fortnight, and then the whole Regiment was put on board of Sloops, and landed at Albany, and there encamped a short time, and then marched to Schenectady, and from there were marched to Fort Plain at Canajoharie, and there encamped, as from Fort Plain to German Flatts and he this deponent with others were sent to guard or escort provisions, sent for the relief of the Soldiers at Fort Stanwix thirty miles or more from German Flatts Fort Plain, the march was performed there and back again in two days on foot and without shoes, on their return found their companions, at the German flatts, there encamped for a few days, and this deponent with others were sent out upon an expedition in pursuit of a party of Indians who had been burning houses a few miles distant, and after a fruitless march returned again - The company was next marched to Fort Stanwix, and after remaining there a short time, was marched back to

1780 6 months Canajoharie, now Montgomery County, and at this place the news of the Taking of Major Andre reached them, as this deponent well recollects, his term of service being expired he after staying some days after, returned to Clarkstown, and there joined the company of Captain Tenne again. This deponent according to his best recollection and belief in this year besides his enlisted service as just above stated, in the spring of the year before his enlistment and after his return from Fort Stanwix doing guard duty and upon Scouts saved , for a period not less than three months, making in all Six - months.
1781 2 months This deponent further saith that in the year 1781 as near as he can now recollect, he moved with the family of his Grandfather James Van Orden into the State of New Jersey, in the Town of Washington, & County of Bergen, and after some little time joined a company of Militia commanded by Captain Blauvelt, and was engaged in doing guard duty and scouting at Liberty Pole, Bergen Woods, English Neighborhood and other places as occasion required, but not near as much as in the two years above mentioned as the British forces were in a considerable measure drawn off to the South and other places, and the most that was to be done was to be out on particular alarms. That this deponent served this year according to his best recollection in tours of duty for a period of two - months.
This deponent further saith that in the year 1782, as near as his recollection will now serve him, he was appointed Ensign  Lieutenant in Captain Blauvelt's company, but as this deponent has lost the commission, and recollects but little about his services this year, as the war was drawing to a close, and only occasionally on duty, he is consequently under the necessity of relinquishing all claim for services except for those above set forth in the years, 1775. 76. 77. 78. 79. 80. & 81. The said services set forth in the just above mentioned, being such and such only, as he this deponent performed in the different companies stated, which were at the time duly organized during the several periods set forth, and subject to the

obligations and discipline of soldiers encamped or marched under the actual command of their proper officers, and during the said periods set forth the said deponent was not engaged in any civil pursuit whatever.
This deponent is sensible that from lapse of time, and loss of memory consequent upon old age, he has omitted much of his services, and that too, in consequence of age, and the great lapse of time he may have made some mistatements as to dates &c. but that he has endeavoured to be as correct as possible, and should there be any errors, he begs the war department to attribute the same to forgetfulness, and not to any improper design.
This deponent hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any state.
Sworn to and subscribed The day and year aforesaid
James Quackenbush
We John Demarest, a clergyman, residing in the city of New York and Benjamin Romaine residing in said city, hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with James Quackenbush, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be seventy eight years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed The day and year aforesaid In Open Court
John Demarest B. Romaine

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states - and the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that John Demarest who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the City of New York, and that Benjamin Roman, who has also signed the same is a resident in the said City, and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit -
In open Court { JOHN DEMAREST Justice of the Marine Court of the City of New York -

State of New York, City of New York } ss
Major Benjamin Ross of the City of New York being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is seventy three years of age.
That he was well acquainted with James Brackenbush (now a resident of the City of New York) and who has subscribed in my presence in open Court the above declaration, and was well acquainted with him in the Revolutionary war, and knows that he was in the service in Rockland County State of New York and this deponent saith that he this deponent was during the war of the Revolution a soldier in the State of New Jersey, and although he cannot say much about his the applicant's services in the State of New York, yet he has seen him the said James Brackenbush, occasionally, upon scouts in the State of New Jersey during the war. and that At and about English neighborhood Liberty Pole, and a place called New Bridge That said Brackenbush was from Clarkstown Rockland County, that this deponent then knew him to be a President of the Town of Clarkstown in said Rockland County. This deponent knows further saith that he understood in the Revolution that the

said Brackenbush had gone to Fort Tazewell and, he this deponent during the war also heard it said that the said Brackenbush was a good friend to his country and an excellent soldier and that he this deponent has read the declaration of the said Brackenbush since it has been drawn and I have not the least doubt from what knowledge I possess of his services that it is correct in substance & matter of fact. - although after so many years this deponent can not state all the places & times connected with the service of the said Brackenbush - and further this deponent saith not, other than that he this deponent resides in the city of New York and that the said Brackenbush resides also in said city and County of New York and that he the said Brackenbush has always maintained an unblemished reputation & that his name is entitled to credit.
Sworn in open Court this Ninth day of September A.D. 1836
Thos. H. Hoxie
John Barker Justice of the Marine Court
I John Barker do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the Marine Court of the City of New York in the matter of the application of James Brackenbush for a Pension
In witness whereof I have hereunto affixed the Seal of the said Court this Ninth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty six
John Barker, Clerk of the Marine Court of the City of New York

Declaration of James Quade Lusk
1779 - Nov. 22 - $1.32 1780 " " 24 - 15.32
Mr 2 + 15 days

State of New York Rockland County ss.
Garret O'Brien of the Town of Clarkstown Rockland County and State of New York, being duly sworn doth depose and say. That he is seventy six years of age, and that during the Revolution he lived not more than a mile from James Quackenbush now a resident of the City of New York who is about to apply for a pension and who has as this deponent has been informed made a declaration for that purpose not long since before the Marine Court of the City of New York. That the said Quackenbush lived a neighbor to deponent as above stated at Clarkstown Rockland County. And this deponent says that he knows that said Quackenbush served during the Revolution except a year or two when the said Quackenbush moved to New Jersey before the close thereof in the Militia of Rockland County, in the Company of Captain Tenne, Capt Gardner's Company and other companies as this deponent fully believes, and that A. Hawks May was the Colonel of the Regiment in which the said Quackenbush served, that he knows that during the war the said Quackenbush was one that enlisted to go to Fort Stanwix, and knows of his going & returning from that expedition. That the said Quacken- bush was during the war while a resident of Clarkstown a single man and resided with his Grandfather James Van Orden, and this deponent knows that the said Quackenbush was for several years the most of his time engaged in one Company & another in doing duty, and knows that the principal places at which he done duty was at the Blane near Haverstraw, Slaughter's Landing, Nook V-neck & Smedens Landing, although this deponent fully believes that the said Quackenbush went frequently upon scouting expeditions into the State of New Jersey

as was the case with the Militia in Rockland County as they were near the Jury line. That this deponent from what he personally knows of the services of the said Quackenbush during the Revolution can say that in the belief of this deponent his services would exceed the two years allowable allowed by the war department although it is extremely difficult if not wholly impossible to define every turn of duty so as to get all the time of service together without losing much for want of recollection, cannot pretend to testify minutely as to the services of said Quackenbush as this deponent although he knows that the said Quackenbush served from Spring until the fall or beginning of winter in the year 1776, 77, 78, 79, 80. as did the rest of the militia in turns of duty some more and some less. St. and he believes that in the year 1776. was on duty in Clarkstown but as to that year being the year the said Quackenbush first moved to Clarkstown can not say much about that year. This deponent further saith that he remembers that when an alarm was made and duty to be done, the said Quackenbush was among the foremost that was ready to do the same. That he had the name during the war of being a bold and dutiful soldier, & that is the general reputation that he then bore. That the said deponent was very intimate with him during the war and has remained acquainted with him since the war and believes that his reputation is unsoiled, and that his state- ments upon any subject are entitled to the fullest credence and belief. and this deponent believes that have been to be his general character in the City of New York for a series of years -
Subscribed and sworn
this 16th day of September
1886. Before me
John Stagg Justice Peace
Garret O'Brien
I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Garret O'Brien who has subscribed the above deposition and
that he is a respectable person and his oaths is entitled to credence
John Stagg Justice Peace

State of New York Rockland County ss.
John Nutton of the Town of Clarkstown in the County of Rockland and State of New York, being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is seventy five years of age, and is now a pensioner under the law of June 7. 1832. And that during the Revolutionary war, this deponent was well acquainted with James Quackenbush who he understands has sworn to a declaration before the Marine Court of the City of New York for the purpose of obtaining his pension. That this deponent lived not more than one half mile from the house where the said James Quackenbush resided, and was upon intimate terms with him during the whole war (with the exception of one or two near the close of the war years) in the family of James Van Orden his grandfather. That the said Quackenbush moved from New York with his grandfather at or shortly before the British took possession of New York the latter part of 1775 or the beginning of 1776. And this deponent has perfect recollection that the said Quackenbush soon after his arrival in the country with his grandfather as above stated entered the company of Captain Lemuel in the Town of Clarkstown Rockland County, and served in that company, and other companies during the war until the latter part of it when he the said Quackenbush moved to New Jersey with his grandfather. That while a resident in Clarkstown which was for six or seven years as near as this deponent can now recollect, the said Quackenbush was to the belief of this deponent engaged in Militia Service from Spring until or beginning of winter in 1777. 78. 79. 80. 81. in tours of duty . late in the fall, the same as he and others, doing guard duty along the shore of the Hudson River from Haverstraw down south as far as Sneekens Landing. And upon Scouts, as this deponent has often seen him the said Quackenbush after doing

such duty. Although this deponent cannot after the laps of so many years, state every place and time that he has seen the said Quackenbush on duty during the war, but having as lived a close neighbor for such a number of years, he can say that in the belief of this deponent no soldier of his acquaintance was more faithful, or more engaged in duty, as the said Quackenbush was at the time young and single and was perhaps on that account more upon duty than some others who had their families and business to see to at times whenever they could get relieved. That particularly in the years 1776. 77. 78. 79. 80. 81. the said Quackenbush done the greater part of his duty. And that this deponent has no doubt upon his mind, but fully believes from his own knowledge of the said Quackenbush's services that he served during the war in Rockland County for a period of at least two years, as if his times of duty were all put together, but that much time must the deponent believe be lost for want of memory as no person can  can recollect all their services, as this deponent has good reason to know after the laps of so many years, and loss of memory consequent upon old age.
This deponent further saith that he has been acquainted with the said Quackenbush until the present time, and that the said Quackenbush has always maintained an un- = blemished reputation & that his oath is entitled in the belief of this deponent to the fullest credit -
Subscribed and Sworn This 16th day of September } 1836. Before me }
John Shelton
John Stagg Justice Peace
personally acquainted with John Shelton, who has subscribed the above Deposition and that he is a reputable person and his Oath is entitled to credit
John Stagg Justice Peace

State of New York } Rockland County } ss
General Peter S. Vanorden of the Town of Ramapo in the County of Rockland and State of New York, being duly sworn doth depose and say, that he is seventy three years of age and doth on his oath depose and say. That during the Revolutionary War this deponent was well acquainted with James Quackenbush who he understands is about to apply for a pension, under the laws passed June 7. 1832. and perfectly recollects, that in the year 1780, the said Quackenbush, went with the company of Captain Lawrence, (Colonel Lewis Seabois Regiment), to Fort Stanwix, and that the said Quackenbush was in the three months service. That this deponent was enlisted in the same company and Regiment, and marched in company with the said James Quackenbush from Haverlands Landing in Rockland County to Kings Ferry above Haverstraw and there were put on Board a Schooner and sailed to Fishkill up the North River, encamped there for a week or fortnight and then the whole of Colonel Seabois Regiment were put on board of vessels and sailed to Albany where encamped at Albany a short time, then marched to Schenectady and encamped a short time and then marched to Fort Plain; and this deponent believes that said Quackenbush was one of the number that was sent to escort Provisions to Fort Stanwix, and believes that the said Quackenbush served out his three months faithfully, and this deponent was in the has seen the said Quackenbush during the war in service in other companies, and from what he has always understood during the war and since the war, this deponent believes that on the night the British killed the American Light Horse, commanded by Capt Balcomb, the said Quackenbush was in Capt Crane's Company, below Tappan Town. When John Burgess & Jacob Stcher & others were killed, that the said Quackenbush had been detached from Captain Lawrence's Company and had been upon the Scout and was on their return to the Regiment commanded by Colonel H. Hawks Key. And this deponent during the war often heard

the said Quackenbush spoken of during the war as being a first rate soldier. - This deponent knows that the said James Quackenbush left New York with the family of his grandfather James Van Orden, (who this deponent well knew), just before the British got possession of New York and Resided in Clarkstown during the war except one or two years before the close and then moved with his grandfather to the Town of Harrington County of Bergen State of New Jersey - and did not return until the British left New York - And this deponent has been acquainted with the said Quackenbush ever since until this time, and the said James Quackenbush has always maintained an unblemished reputation, and that his oath is entitled to credit -
Subscribed and sworn this fifth day of September 1836. Before me -
P. S. Van Orden
James J. Demarest, Justice of the peace.
I do hereby certify that Peter S. Van Orden who has subscribed and sworn to the above deposition is a person well known to me, and is a reputable person, and his oath is entitled to credit.
Rockland County Stein's office
James J. Demarest, Justice of the peace
I Abraham Hogenkamp Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County do certify that John Sturgis whose name and signature as Justice of the peace is subscribed to the above affidavits of John Hutten and Garnet Vlemis and certificate thereto is a magistrate or Justice of the peace in and for Rockland County as above is genuine and also certify that James J. Demarest whose name appears subscribed to the above affidavit signed by Peter S. Van Orden and certificate thereto is a Magistrate or Justice of the peace in and for the County of Rockland as above and that his signature thereto is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my Seal of Office and subscribed my name this tenth day of September in the year 1836 Abm. Hogenkamp Clerk.

15.200 ✓ INVALID. am
File No. 15.200
James Mackinbus Priv. Bew. War.
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 306
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Mar 2 o Dear Kentucky
My Dear
Wm. L. Edwards
L. Edwards Engraver Commissioner of Pensions
Mr. A. Edwards RR.

House of Representatives March 2 /38
Dear Sir
I will thank you if it is consistent with the regulations of the Department to send me the papers in your Office in the Matter of the claim of James Quackenbush for a Pension, for the purpose of submitting them to Congress
Yours Respectfully
J. M. Vanderroc
James L Edwards Esq Commissioner of Pensions

Hon. J. L. Edwards Esq. Committee of Pensions Washington. -

Clarkstown Sept 19. 1836.
J. B. Edwards Esq. Commr. of Pensions.
Dear Sir,
I herewith enclose the papers containing the application of James Guackenbush for his pension under the act passed June 7 th 1832. Several circumstances have conspired to prevent him, until the present, from making the application - He has now been able to get the Testimony necessary, and has requested me to forward his papers as his agent , as the only person of his acquaintance who is known at the war department - I believe the papers to be properly made out and authenticated, and that no person who served in the Revolution done more duty as a Soldier - Mr. Guackenbush has been for many years a highly respectable merchant of the City of New York; but during the Revolution a resident of the place at which I reside, and where his services are well remembered.
Any communications, will if you please, be made to me as the agent of Mr. Guackenbush, directed to Clarkstown Rockland County N.Y.
Yours Very Respectfully
W m J. Fraser
PS - Will the War department do me the favour to acknowledge the receipt of the papers herewith enclosed.
W. J. F.

J. L. Edwards To Mr. J. Fraser
Letter concerning the claim of J. G. Brumbaugh
J. Edwards
Comm ee of Pensions
William Fraser Esq.
Clarks town
NEW YORK

War Department, Pension Office, June 8 th 1837.
Sir,
The claim of James Brackenbush, referred to in your letter of the 9 th of February last is for about two years' service in Col Hawks H th regiment of militia, in the then County of Orange beside a tour of two months in the city of New York. The first term of service in Orange County, viz. 4 months, is alleged to have been rendered in tours commencing in July 1776, and ending in the Fall; - the next term is 4 months in 1777, consisting of tours from Spring till Fall; among the rest, a tour in Capt. Gardner's company in pursuit of the British, after the taking of Stony Point by Genl Wayne; the next term is 4 months in 1778, consisting of tours from Spring until Fall, in Capt. Tenure's company. In 1779, term of service in the same company is alleged to have been six months; and six months in 1780 3 months in Capt Lawrence's company and 3 in Capt Tenure's - and in 1781, two months in Capt. Blauvelt's company.
To the first tour it is objected that the names of the regimental officers are not given

without which there can be no satisfactory examinations; to the four months' service in 1776, that the duration of the different tours composing that term, are not specified in the manner directed by the regulations of the Department:— During that year a call was made upon the militia, by the State of New York, for a tour of 5 months service, but Capt. Tenne does not appear to have been out under that call. The tours of the militia were short and occasional only. The duration of each tour must be specified before it can be determined what ought, or what ought not to be allowed in this case in 1776 and 1777. The four months in 1777, part of it under the classification of the com- pany, and part of it in pursuit of the British Forces after the Capture of Stony Point, is dis- credited by the fact that Stony Point was Captured at least two years after that time. In 1778, the claimant, as appears from the rolls of his company, served but six days, in- stead of 4 months;— The name of James Duckenbush appears on the rolls of Captain Blankett in 1779, but not as a private; the

name of the claimant appears in that year on the roll of Capt. Tenure, as having served 10 months & 9 days; but his name is not found on the rolls of Captain Jonathan Lawrence's at all; nor is it found on the rolls of Capt. Blauvelt, for the year 1781.
In every case, where the name of a claimant is not borne on the rolls of a regiment in which he claims to have served; in order to being allowed, it is required that the claim be supported by the testimony of two credible witnesses, who can specify the time of entering and the time of leaving the regiment.
I am, respectfully,
Your obt servt
J L Edwards
William F. Fraser, Esqr Clarkstown New York.

James Duckenbush
April 25. 1840
Returned to office by com d on Rev. pension not having been ref d to any com d supposed to have been up d on pension off ce

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War Department
Pension Office
June 8. 1837
Sir,
The claim of James Quackenbush, referred to in your letter of the 9 th February last, is for about two years service in Col. Hawks Hays' regiment of militia in the County of Orange, besides a tour of two months in the City of New York. The first term of service in Orange County, viz. 4 months, is alleged to have been rendered in tours commencing in July 1776, and ending in the Fall. The next term is 4 months in 1777 consisting of tours from Spring till Fall; amongst the rest a tour in Capt. Gardner's company in pursuit of the British after the taking of Stony Point by Genl. Wayne. The next term is 4 months in 1778 consisting of tours from Spring until Fall in Capt. Turner's company. In 1779 the term of service in the same company is alleged to have been six months, and 6 months in 1780; three months in Capt. Laurence's company and 3 months in Capt. Turner's company in 1781; two months in Capt. Blauvelt's company. To the first tour it is objected that the names of the regimental officers are not given, without which there can be no satisfactory examination. To the 4 months service in 1776, that the duration of the different tours composing that term are not specified in the manner directed by the regulations of the

Discharge; during that year a call was made upon the militia by the State of New York for a term of 5 months service, but Capt. Turner does not appear to have been out under that call; the terms of militia were short and occasional only. The duration of each term must be specified before it can be determined what ought or what ought not to be allowed in this case in 1776 & 1777. The 4 months in 1777, part of it under the classification of the company, and part of it in pursuit of the British forces after the capture of Stony Point, is discredited by the fact that Stony Point was captured at least two years after that time. In 1778 the claimant, as appears from the rolls of his company, served but 6 days instead of 4 months. The name of James Quackenbush appears on the rolls of Capt. Blaauwlt in 1779, but not as a private. The name of the claimant appears in that year on the rolls of Capt. Turner, having served 2 months & 9 days; but his name is not found on the rolls of Capt. Jonathan Lawrence's company at all; nor is it found on the rolls of Capt. Blaauwlt for the year 1781. In any case where the name of a claimant is not borne on the rolls of a regiment in which he claims to have served, in order to being allowed, it is required that the claim be supported by the testimony of two credible witnesses who can specify the time of entering and the time of leaving the regiment.
I am respectfully, &c. (Signed) J. L. Edwards
M m . F. Fraser, Esq r . Clarksstown N. York

of a few weeks at least -
I Am, Sir, very Respectfully Your Obedient Servant
Wm F. Fraser
Answer to objections to granting Pension in the case of James Buchanan
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Clarkstown Rockland County February 9 th 1837.
Hon ble J. L. Edwards
Dear Sir: In the month of October last I sent to the department, the Declaration of James Quackenbush for a pension under Act of 1832 - The letter enclosing same, was mailed on the 4 th Oct, and as soon as the 12 th of same month an answer was sent me, that they had been examined and placed on file, and from the little time the papers could possible have been in the office, as well as the wrong conceptions which are clearly entertained as to his case, creates a belief in my mind that the papers could not have been examined with that care and deliberation, which perhaps might have led to other results - As I suppose such examinations are not made by you personally, but by examining clerks. You will pardon me therefore, for the expression of my opinion, for I do not mean to lay any blame to any one as I am well aware such things will and must occur in offices of that kind where there is such a pressure of business -
In the letter from the Department (which has been mislaid until now, and is the reason I have not answered it sooner,) it is stated first as a reason why the department cannot tell whether the said Quackenbush is, or is not entitled to a pension, because he states he served two years in the Militia of Orange County now Rockland County. Now Sir I must say that there is not any thing said in the Declaration about two years service, but expressly declares for services particularly set forth, and sets forth, in the first place services done in the City & County of New York, and states the same at two months, as near as my recollection now serves me, and as I can now gather from the minutes of his services, somewhat imperfectly drawn from the mouth

of Mr. Quackenbush himself. — The next service that he sets forth is in 1776, in the Company commanded by capt. Wendrick Tenure, Lieutenant Walter Van Orden A. Hawks May Colonel, commencing in July, and served 4 Months, (as I believe is stated), and particularly and with minute refs states his duty performed -
In the year 1777. He still continued in the Company of capt. Tenure, commencing early in the Spring until July of that year - And that in the month of July he was detached with other men from the capt. Tenure Company, and attached to the company of capt. Gardner, and was marched to the Long Clove, and from thence went in pursuit of the British the next morning after the taking of Stony Point by General Wayne, and states his period of service I think at 4 months only -
In the year 1778. being still in the company of capt. Tenure and under the command of the same Colonel early in the Spring he was again called out doing the duty which he has all along particularly pointed out, until the month of September of that year, at which time the British Army made an excursion up the Hudson River on each side of it, with considerable force. That then the company of capt. Crane who lay near the place where capt. Tenure's company also lay prepared for a scouting expedition, and the said Quackenbush, volunteered to go along with the consent of capt. Tenure. And states that upon the return from said scout the skirmish he was in with the British being the next morning after colonel Baylor's Cavalry was killed at Sappan. The period of service in this year I think was also stated at 4 Months.
In the year 1779. The whole of the militia being called out, he Quackenbush served in captain Tenure's Company from early in the Spring until the

beginning of winter, and states his period of service (as I now remember) at 6 months -
In the year 1780. He still remained in the company of Captain Tenney until the month of July. Doing garrison duty &c. That in the month of July of that year he enlisted out of Capt. Tenney's company into the company of Captain Lawrence for three months , and marched to Sneedens landing, and states the duty performed in the said three months , as will particularly appear by examination of his Declaration on file. That amongst the rest he was marched upon an expedition to Fort Stanwix, some distance above Albany, and states facts which of themselves prove his Declaration correct. (Here it may be also said, by the Department, that his name does not appear on the pay-rolls which Capt. Lawrence has returned (if any). Yet it is enough that the pay roll (if the has omitted his name) is proven incorrect by the oath of Genl. P. S. Van Orden, who served with Quackenbush and marched with him from Rockland County. Mr. Quackenbush further states that before he went to Fort Stanwix, and after his three months service was expired, he served in Captain Tenney's company not less than three months . and states his periods of service in all in that year at 6 months - all which above stated services put together would make two years and two months service - but he relinquishes all claim to any more than what the law allows him as will appear by his said Declaration on file -
These services I recollect were completely proven, to every reasonable extent, by the depositions annexed to the Declaration, of Maj. General Peter S. Van Orden, Garnet O'Brien & others. The said Garnet O'Brien being a neighbor of the said Quackenbush during the war and well acquainted with the military service of Mr. Quackenbush.

as well as the deposition of John Hutton, a neighbor also in the Revolution, and who now receives a pension, whose testimony cannot be disputed, they are neighbors of mine also, and I am bold in averring, that three more reputable men cannot be produced, not only in the County of Roekland, but in the State of N. York, and if my averment is doubted, I refer you to the Judges of our County, or to all of the other public officers of our County, to whom they are all well known — and as to the known reputation of Mr. Quackenbush, I need not say, that there is not perhaps, a public officer in the City of New York to whom he is not known to have been a citizen for years of unblemished character and eminently so —
The second objection raised, why the Department are at a loss to determine whether a pension ought to be granted or not, is, that it appears by the Pay-rolls of Capt. Tenney's Company, commencing in 1779, that from that time only two months and a half services were rendered by Mr. Quackenbush, and that his name does not appear at all in the Company of Captain Gardner at all. Let me ask the Department, (if his Declaration is perused with attention) if there is not some reason why his name may not appear in the Company of Capt. Gardner. The particular service set forth as performed in that Company is in the year 1777. (in which year I doubt whether a pay-roll of Capt. Gardner can be found) and in addition to which appears by states, that at that time he did not belong and was not regularly enrolled in the Company of Capt. Gardner but was detached from the Company of Captain Tenney, and attached to the Company of Capt. Gardner as aforesaid, and that too for a certain purpose to wit, to pursue the British after the retaking of Stony Point, as reference to the recital of the services of that year will more fully appear — His name at most then might have been omitted, on that, or some other account, by which he

ought not to be prejudiced. But I am informed from a very Authentic source, that no regular pay roll is to be found of Capt Gardiner's Company for the year 1777. of course that objection from either consideration must lose its seeming importance - Notwithstanding all which I would now beg leave to ask, what ought to govern the Department in granting pensions, The sworn Declaration of the Applicant, supported by three or more, of the most reputable witnesses, or pay-rolls, which if ever sent to the War Department in the trying times of the Revolution, half of which in all probability never reached there, and which pay-rolls that have been returned throughout the United States appear most miserable defective in form and substance, and cannot be relied upon as evidence of service.
As to Rockland County I can speak with assurance that few pay-rolls were ever made out, and those few only when there was money to be paid, which happened but once or twice during the war, and that towards the close of it - Capt Lemire, who lived but one mile & a half from my residence, was well known to be a very illiterate man, and as for writing or reading or writing English, I believe he did not pretend to any extent, other than making his signature in a miserable manner neither could his Lieutenant, - The Education (the little they had), was in the Dutch Language, an English School was not then I presume known in the County of Rockland, and in which County Dutch Preaching has not been discontinued to my knowledge, not more than eight years ago. - How vain then to talk about Pay-rolls, not appearing. Besides as before hinted, Pay Rolls might have been made out in hundreds of instances, become mislaid, or never sent to Washington, all the new Rules and Regulations in modern warfare was not and could not be observed in the Revolution, when all

were young in the Science of Arms — If I am not correct, — If Capt Tenure did actually make out Pay-Rolls, & did actually send them to Washington, and they actually reached there in safety, and have been carefully preserved, Why I would humbly ask, does not Pay-Rolls appear previous to the year 1779? — He and his Company was in actual service from the year 1776 to the close of the war, as to my knowledge appears, in many Declarations and affidavits, long ago on file in the pension office, and upon which pensions have been granted, reference to which will abundantly show, — I will venture to answer —
1. When there was no money to pay soldiers, as is well known was the case there was no necessity for, & could not be any Pay-Rolls — 2. Our Dutch officers, as I have frequently been informed knew not how to make them out with correctness, and on that account was often perhaps omitted — 3. If ever made out they might easily have been lost —
— Again I would beg leave to ask, did Congress, when they passed the law of 1832, granting pensions ever intend that after the old soldiers, tottering upon the brink of his grave, and after he had most solemnly made his declara- = tion to facts, relative to his service, in open court — facts which could only be known as to their truth or falsity, to him and his God, and after supporting his Declaration so made, by the oaths of other war worn veterans, that they should be told by the War Department which is to settle their claim, that their names are not on the few torn, mutilated and almost unintelligible Pay-Rolls in the office, and therefore their Statements are not to be credited. — Congress did not mean to mingle in their already bitter cup, this last dreg of bitterness and despair — They had a better regard to their feelings — otherwise, where the necessity of a Declaration —

of proof, &c. - They not let pay. Would settle the point in the very first place, and that too before so many are put to expense, that they can but illly bear.
The last objection which I find raised to the pension is, that the services are too indefinitely set forth. This last objection I could not have anticipated, after the many Declarations, that I have drawn and sent to the Department, upon which pensions have been readily granted three or four years since, and in which the services set forth more indefinitely than the one now in question , in reference to and which Declaration it was observed when it was sworn to before the court, to be one, which the Department would not & could not object to, inasmuch as it detailed events and times with uncommon certainty as to the . The query here arises, What certainty did Congress intend should be arrived at - I answer, a reasonable certainty, not that the Applicant should be able to state the precise day in each & every month on which he entered upon the various tours of duty set forth - This would be asking what is impossible to be done - If the merchant, or the professional man cannot testify to events and transactions which took place but the year past, without reference to dates and entries made at the time - how can the old soldier whose memory has become impaired by age, and when circumstances which it is his business to relate cannot be ascertained by any Record or Minutes kept at the time - The Bayonet was the only pen allowed them by which to mark events - and the blood trickling down their naked feet, the only ink by which to tell their sufferings - and the grave of many, the only place to tell when and where their duty ended - - - and if the applicant in any case, does not even mistake the year, in which his services were rendered, it only can be owing to a strong and retentive memory - In the case of Mr. James Guckian (bush)

Now in question, he states events and times with an accuracy which I am sensible is to be found by the perusal of but few of the many declarations now on file in the pension office.
I must now conclude my communication which I have drawn in haste and at greater length than I intended. - By asking the Department to take up the case of Mr. Quackenbush De Novo, & I cannot but think that after a fair perusal of the whole declaration, the Department will be convinced that he is entitled to a pension, the amount we must leave to the liberality of the department to fix, according to facts and circumstances of the case. - I will only add, that Mr. Quackenbush will esteem it an honor to have his name placed among those worthies of his native City, who fought and bled in the same glorious cause -
I shall in the mean time confidently hope for the receipt of a Pension Ticket in the course of a few weeks at least -
I am, Sir, very Respectfully Your Obedient Servant
W m F. Fraser
Answer to objection to granting Pension in the case of James Quackenbush

Answers hinted at that may be made to the objections raised against the allowance of a Pension to James Queckenstedt.

To the first objection made by the department to wit "That the periods of service are not properly set forth & names of officers are not stated" - It can be said, that the several periods of service are set forth as minutely & with as much correctness as possible for any claimant to set them forth, and names of such officers mentioned who were in command as the recollection of any aged man would serve him to set forth. Vide Declaration . And the depositions of General P.S. Van Orden & others annexed, which depositions prove his services to a reasonable certainty.
To the 2 d objection to wit - "That it appears that by the pay-rolls of Capt Tenne's company commencing in 1779, that it appears that Mr Quackenbush served only 2\frac{1}{2} months".
In answer it may with propriety be asked, what ought to govern the war department in granting pensions? The sworn Declaration of the applicant, supported by three of the most reputable witnesses, on pay-rolls which if ever sent to the department in the trying times of the Revolution half of which very probable never reached there, and those that have reached, appear miserably defective in form and substance, & cannot be relied upon. As to Rockland County I can speak with assurance that few pay rolls were ever made out, and those few only when there was money to be paid which happened but once or twice during the war as the depositions of John Newton, John G. Blauvelt, Peter Stephens & Mr Van Horsten, who are now pensioners who have sworn to the same, and have some since been sent to the Department by David Pye Esq. & now on file will sufficiently show. Capt Tenne under whom Mr Quackenbush served the greater part of the war as is known I believe by many in the neighborhood

to have been an illiterate man, and as for writing or reading English he could not. Neither could his Lieutenant.
The Education the little they then had, was in the Dutch language. English schools was not then known in the county of Northland the population then & still being Dutch. No one vain then to talk about pay-rolls not appearing - Besides as before hinted, pay-rolls might have been made out in hundreds of instances, have been mislaid, destroyed, or might never have reach Washington - All the nice rules and regulations in modern warfare, was not & could not be observed in the Revolution, when all were young in the science of arms - But if I am incorrect, if Capt. Tenne did actually make out pay-rolls, and did actually send them to Washington, and they actually reached there in safety & have been carefully preserved, How can the Department account for the Non-appearance of pay-rolls previous to the year 1779 as stated in the letter of Mr Edwards - The company of Capt Tenne was in service from the year 1776 to the close of the war, as to my knowledge appears in many Declarations & affidavits long ago on file in the pension office, & upon which pensions have been granted - I will venture to account for it -
1 When there was no money to pay soldiers pay rolls could not be made out - 2. If ever made out a Majority from the nature of the case must be lost - 3. That the making them out when necessary, evidently was neglected in consequence of incapacity - Again did congress when they passed the law granting pensions, ever intend, that after the soldiers tottering upon the brink of the grave, & after he had most solemnly made his declaration to facts

relative to his service in open court - facts which could only be known as to their falsity between him & his god, and after supporting his declaration so made by the oath of other war worn Veterans, that they should be told by the Department, "your names are not on the few torn, mutilated & almost unintelligible pay rolls in the office, and therefore your statements are not to be credited!" No - Congress when the law for the granting of pensions was passed did not mean by such treatment, to mingle in their already bitter cup this last dreg of despair & disgrace - They had better regard to their feelings, otherwise, where the necessity of a declaration of proof &c. Why did they not direct that pay rolls should settle the point in the first place, and that too, before so many are put to expense that they can illly bear.
The last objection raised by the Department is "that the services are too indefinately set forth" - This objection I could not have anticipated, after the many declarations that I have drawn & sent to the pension office upon which pensions have been readily granted, four or five years since, and in which the services were set forth in the same manner, of which I could in the short space of twenty five minutes, show to the Department was in the pension office - What certainty did Congress who passed the law intend should be arrived at - Nothing more than a reasonable certainty, not that the applicant should be able to state the precise day in each & every month on which he entered upon the various tours of duty set forth. This would be asking what is impossible to be done - If the merchant or the professional man cannot testify to events & transactions which took place but the year past, without reference to dates & entries made at the time, how can the aged Soldier, whose memory has become impaired

by age, and when circumstances which it is his business to relate, cannot be ascertained by any record or minutes kept at the time - The Bayonet was the only pen allowed them, by which to mark events - and the blood trickling down their naked feet, the only ink by which to tell their sufferings, and the scarcity of too many to tell where & where their duty ended - And if the applicant in any case does not even mistake the year in which his services were rendered it only can be owing to a strong and retentive memory - In the case of Mr Quackenbush now in question, he states events and times with an accuracy which I am sensible is to be found by the perusal of but few of the many thousands of Declarations now on file in the office - He states the precise year of his service, the month about which he commenced & ended his service, and states in many instances the particular events that took place at the time, which of themselves, ought to carry conviction to the mind of every unprejudiced person of their truth, when a clergyman of the City of high standing attests to the good character of the applicant, and as to the general report for years, & belief generally of the service performed by the applicant: If the applicant has stated even the years wrong, it is owing to his loss of memory & the confused manner in which things of many many years gone by must of course present themselves to the mind - Mr Quackenbush stated this difficulty to me, and wished me to mention the same in his declaration and should there be any errors, to beg the department to attribute the same to forgetfulness & not to any improper design, which I think you will observe at the close of his declaration -

You will perceive that it is mentioned in the letter of the Hon J L Edwards herewith enclosed, that the names of James Quackenbush does not appear on the Rolls of Capt Laurence at all. I think General P.S. Van Orden expressly states in his deposition that he knew him to serve in that company & went with him to the north with him. This was an enlistment, and several went with him from Richland County who are now dead, so that there is another circumstance to show the incorrectness of the Pay rolls. - Again his services done in Capt Cranes Company is not mentioned in the letter, & who can doubt but that he was a soldier at the time of the Massacre mentioned at Tappan, all of which you will perceive by an attentive perusal of the Declaration when you get the same at the office of the Department.
It appears the name of Mr Quackenbush does appear upon the rolls of Capt Blauvelt Company but not as a private. Mr Quackenbush stated to me at the time of drawing his declaration that he served as a lieutenant in that company some part of the time but could not say how long or whether he was commissioned, therefore rather for more security stated his service as a private only. -
The above are hints of answers that may be made to the objections made by the War Department & will I hope serve in connection with the Declaration to give you a correct view of Mr Quackenbush's claim.
I have drawn them in much haste in consequence of my leaving home & being just now pressed for time, you will be pleased therefore to excuse

My hasty manner of writing -
Yours Respectfully
Wm F. Fraser
Answers hinted at, that may be made to the objections raised against the allowance of a Pension to James Quebeduck

New York
Rev d Rev d -
James Quackenbush
Suspended - See Let
Wm F. Fraser - Oct. 12. 1836
Let to same - June 8. 1837
do - 19. June 1837. same Oct
14. 1837. do to Hon A Vanderveer
Mar 13. 1838.

Oct 11 Glasgow 6 th Oct 1841 Rev Quackenbush Sup't N.Y. Hon. J. L. Edwards Comm. of Pensions Washington

Clackston Rockland City N. York
Hon J. L. Edwards
October 3 rd 1837
Dear Sir -
It appears from your communication to me, of the 8 th of June last, that the Department are not willing to allow a pension to James Quackenbush a Revolutionary Soldier, who made application as early as October 1836.
It is the wish of Mr James Quackenbush, that the Department would send the papers heretofore transmitted by me as his friend, who drew them, that I may peruse the same and determine as to what course to take with them in order to obtain the pension to which he humbly conceives himself entitled to - from the evidence adduced of the most positive kind, in addition to his own solemn Declaration.
Will the Department, with as little delay as practicable send to me the pension papers of Mr Quackenbush and much oblige
Your Humble Serv!
W m F. Forster