Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8571, for Samuel Ramsey, New Hampshire

SERVICE
NUMBER
N H
Ramsey, Samuel
R 8571
CONTENTS

REJECTED
S. 571
P. O.
Samuel Ramsay
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18 .
Discharged: _____, 18 .
Application filed: _____, 18 .
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18 .

No 152.
Samuel Ramsay.
8550

STATE OF NEW-HAMPSHIRE.
County of Hillsborough, ss.
On this
30 th
day of August A.D. 1832
personally appeared in open Court before the Court of Probate, now sitting at Franklin within and for the County of Hillsborough, in the State aforesaid, Samuel Ramsay a resident of the town of Greenfield in said county aged 71 years Who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he entered the service of the United States, under the following named officers, and served as herein stated. That is to say,
In the summer of 1781 he enlisted for six months and served in Capt. McGregor's company in a regiment commanded by Col. Reid. He is not certain but this officer was a lieutenant colonel. He joined the army at or near Tarrytown - went from that place to Gallowayhill not far from West Point - staid there awhile. He thinks Col. Tiffey, Col. Dearborn's 2nd Scamell's regiments were at this time stationed at or near this place. He then marched to P'kill - took shipping down to Albany and from that place to Saratoga where he was discharged in the month, in the year 1782.

He was born at Londonderry, New Hampshire June 10 1768: He has no record of his age. When called into the service he lived where he now lives, that being even since then a part of Society Land now of Greenfield. He received a written discharge from the service signed Moses Durst and Commant but has lost it. William Whittmore and Jacob Richardson Esquires of Greenfield are persons to whom he is known in his present neighborhood who can testify as to his character for truth & their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution.
There is no clergyman in Greenfield except one who has lately come into the place with whom he is unacquainted
He relinquishes every claim, whatever, to a pension or annuity, whatever, except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll, of the agency of any State, and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Sworn to
Samuel Ramsey
Colinand Parker Judge of Probate
We John M. Whiton a Clergyman residing in the town of Antioch in the county of Hillsborough aforesaid, and Charles Cavernden residing in Greenfield in the county aforesaid, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Samuel Ramsey who has subscribed and sworn to the above, and that we believe him to be 71 years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier in the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid,
John M. Whiton
Colinand Parker, Judge of Probate
Charles Cavernden
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, that after the investigation of the matter, and putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them, that
John M. Whiton who has signed the preceding Certificates is a Clergyman resident in the town of Antioch and that Charles Cavernden who has signed the same, is a resident in the town of Greenfield - and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
Charles Cavernden
Colinand Parker,
Judge of Probate for said County of Hillsborough.
I Charles H. Atherton, Register of the court, do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of Samuel Ramsey for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of said court, this the 14th day of August in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty-two.
C. H. Atherton
Register of Probate for said county of Hillsborough.

STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE
County of Hillsborough, to wit:
At the Court aforesaid, On the application aforesaid, the following interrogatories were propounded to the said Samuel Remsey and the following answers given, on oath to wit:
1. Where, and in what year were you born?
Answer, at Londonderry June 10. 1761
2. Have you any record of your age, and where is it?
Answer, I have no record
3. Where were you living, when called into service, where have you lived since the Revolutionary War, and where do you now live? Answer, When called called into service, I was in the town of Londonderry where I now live. I have lived ever since the War - then a part of Society Land now Greenfield
4. How were you called into service, were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute, and if a substitute, for whom? Answer, I volunteered
5. State the names of some of the regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served, such Continental and Militia Regiments, as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your service?
Answer, I have stated these particulars as far as I recollect them in my (Gregory's) declaration
6. Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? Answer, I received a discharge signed, Moses Dunton Capt. Commandt. of the Regt. but have lost it
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a Soldier of the Revolution?
Answer, William Whittier Esq. Just Peace and son Esquire of Greenfield
Certified by
C. H. Atherton
Register

No 8550
Samuel Ramsay—
on the Roll of 6 Months men. as having served 5 Months & 3 days only —
Report Nov 22 1872
8550
John Brown
C. H. Atherton Francis M. H.

no 8550 —
BRIEF in the case of Samuel Ramsay — of Greenfield — in the State of New Hampshire — (Act 7 June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 71 —  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days. As a Gen.     Summer of 1781 — — 6 — Private — M c Gregor — Col Reed  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Greenfield, N.H.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary —  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? correct 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Sam l H. Patten Examining Clerk

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Samuel Ramsay which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes — XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? no — XIV. † If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes — XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, de poseth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension.”

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.
† QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the affidavits must be properly authenticated, as above directed.
‡ QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.