Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 43,706, for Herman Jones, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Jones Herman
S 43,706
CONTENTS
ent. in N.Y. In 1926 aged 66 yrs. + res. Romberovka N.Y.

Copy
William R. Goff Herkimer, N. Y. Sir,
War Department Pension Office Feb. 7-1827
The documents forwarded by you to this office in support of the claim of Herman (son to a pensioner on account of revolutionary service) have been examined. The claimant states that he enlisted in the month of April 1781, in the company commanded by Capt. Groes and was attached to the Regiment commanded by Colonel Van Cortland and that in the fall of the same year Colonel Willett took command of the Regiment and that he was discharged from service the first of January 1782. According to this statement he could not have served more than eight months under Col. Van Cortland, and the law of the 18 th of March 1818, under which he claims, provides for those only who served at least nine months under one period of enlistment in the continental establishment. That service therefore will not entitle him to a pension. Colonel Willett was not on the Continental Establishment, as he has heretofore been informed, of course his claim cannot be allowed. The papers will remain on our files, agreeably to the regulations of this Department.
J. L. C.
Mm. Feb. 16-1923

State of New York
Herkimer County ss On this 4 th day of June 1826
Personally appeared in Open Court, to wit a Court of Common Pleas held in & for said County & Constituted such Court by the Laws and Statutes of said State. Herman Jones in said County aged sixty six years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in Order to obtain the provision made by the Act of Congress of the 18 th March 1818 and the 1 st of May 1820 That he the said Herman Jones Enlisted for the Term of Nine Months the first day of April 1781 in the State of New York in a Company commanded by Captain Goss in the Regiment Commanded by Col. Van Courtland in the line of the State of New York on the Continental Establishment. That he continued to serve in the said Corps until the first day of January 1782 when he was discharged from the service at Fort Herkimer. and his name has been placed on the pension list and disbursed dropped therefrom on account of his stating in his first declaration that his service was under Col. Willett when in truth this deponent was mistaken, the facts relating to the service of this deponent as respects his service under both Colonels is this that when this deponent enlisted he was immediately placed under Col. Courtland and went with him to Rome and served under him until some time in the fall of the year

1781 when he this said Colonel Van Courtland was called to the South, and he then placed all of the Regular Soldiers under the Command of Colonel Whittet who took Command of the Regular troops as well as of the Militia of the State of Newy - or untill until his Return - And in pursuance of the act of the first of May 1820 I do Solemnly swear that I was a Resi- -dent Citizen of the United States on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not since that time by Gift Sale or in any manner disposed of My property or any part thereof, with Intent thereby to dimin- -ish it as to bring Myself within the provi- -sions of an Act of Congress Entitled an act to provide for Certain persons Enya- -ged in the Land and Naval Service of the United States in the revolutionary war passed on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not nor has any person in Trust for me any property or limited Contracts or debts due to me nor have I any income other than what is contain- -ed in the schedule herunto annexed and by me subscribed I have no real Estate either in possession reversion or

remainder
Personal property -
1 Cow & Calf worth about $12
1 Hay 40
I have no other property except one old bed and bedding and only one suit of Clothes
I have a wife fifty four years old not healthy, I have one child about twenty four years, but does not live at home I therefore have no help to support me
Hermon Jones
Sworn before me this 7th day of June 1826
John Mahon one of the Judges of Superior Common pleas -
It is the Opinion of the Court that the Value of the property contained in the above schedule is sixteen Dollars Exclusive of the bed and bedding & the wearing apparel
Hyram Norton } Judges of Sanders Luning } Court Com John Mahon } pleas -

Clerks Office Fayette County ss } I John Mahon Deputy Clerk to Abijah Beckwith do hereby Certify under the seal of the Clerks office of the County aforesaid that the within is a true Copy of the Original declaration of Newman Jones as sworn in Open Court on the Seventh day of June Eighteen hundred & twenty six the Original of which was filed in this office the day and year last aforesaid
For Abijah Beckwith Clk
John Mahon Dep. Clk

mmh S. 43706
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., Feb. 17 , 192 3
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Herman Jones a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Apr. 1, 1781 to Jan. 1, 1782 Pvt. Eros Van Courtlandt Willett N.Y.                                     
Battles engaged in, none stated Residence of soldier at enlistment, Enlisted in state of New York Date of application for pension, Mar. 30ct. 30, 1818. His claim was allowed Residence at date of application, Oneida Co., New York Age at date of application, 58 years. Remarks: In 1826 soldier was a resident of Herkimer Co., N.Y. and stated that his wife was aged 54 yrs. and a daughter about 24 yrs. old, their names not stated. No further family data.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

43 706
Rev INVALID.
File No. 43 706
Hermon Jones
Rev Rev
Act: 18 th March 18 th
Index: —Vol. 8 , Page 261
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1923 Feb 17 - Hick to Mrs Frank M. Becken - mss

Herman Jones, New York
Rejected manuscript of July 1827 to Mrs B Goff Esq Herkimer
New York & 27 June 1827

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New York.
J Herman Jones, Capt Grob private, Army U. States. NY
Attest: Open mo: Com 7 th April, 1818.
Cert: issued 24 th April 1818 to Hon ble Mr. Westerlo, House of Representatives. U. States.
Jul. to 4 th Sept. 1818. 4 29 / 31 mo. $39.48
(Rev. J. Blair, Act 18 th March, 1818)
New York Line
,81 Nine Months
✓ Oneida County

To the Honorable John. C. Calhoun Secretary of the Department of War.
State of New York } 1 st Oneida county } It appearing to my satisfaction, that Herman Jones served in the Revolutionary War, against the Common Enemy, on the Continental establishment for the term of Nine Months.
In pursuance of the Direction, of the Act of March 18. 1818 I do hereby Certify, that the testimony taken in this case, appears in the affidavit of the said Herman Jones and the affidavit of John Caine thereon endorsed. Which Affidavits are hereto annexed.
Dated 30 March 1818
Horatio S. Miller
First Judge of Oneida.

State of New York Oneida County } ss.
Herman Jones being duly sworn saith, that he is a Resident of the State of New York - that he is fifty eight years old and upon that he served as a Soldier in the war of the Revolution for the time of nine months in Capt. Gross's Company of Willets Regiment and line of New York that he entered the service in 1781. and left the same in 1782. in virtue of a Discharge regularly granted to him, which Discharge is lost by time and accident. And that by reason of his reduced circumstances in life, he is in need of assistance from his Country for support. And that he never had any pension allowed him by the laws of the United States.
Sworn this 30 March 1818 } Before me . . . . }
H. S. Miller
First Judge of Oneida.
Dear Mr. Jones

State of New York Oneida County. } ss.
John Caene being duly sworn, saith that he will know the within named Herman Jones - who is a man of truth & veracity - and that he this deponent fully believes the matters set forth in the within affidavit.
John Caene
Signed 30 March 1818 }
Before me . . . }
H. S. Miller
Writ Judge of Oneida.
I hereby certify that the above is the true signature of John Miller of New York. Washington City April 7: 1818. R. Wortley. M.C.

Harmon Jones Affidavit
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State of New York Herkimer County ss Herman Jones being duly sworn saith that he was never detached from Col. Vancourtland Regiment from the time of his Enlis- =ment, until the term of his service expired, nor neither was any part of the said Regiment attached to the State troops during the term of his Enlistment as but as he stated in his Declara- =tion when the Regular Officers were absent as was some times the case Col. Willet took the Command of the Regular Forces as well other Regiments as his own, and at the time Col. Vancourtland was called to the South which was about two or three Months and at that time Col. Willet Occasionally took Command in Cases of Emergency but that before this deponent was discharged Col. Vancourtland returned and took Command of his Own Regiment — and this deponent if necessary says that he can prove by many proper Now Residing in the County of Herkimer, that Col. Willet Occasionally took Command of the Regular forces — and further saith not —
Sworn before me this 7th day of June 1827
John McMahon
Herman Jones Foreman of the Judges of the Ho t Com pleas

I did not get this affidavit. certified because the Clerk Certified in the other cases - that John Mahon was a Judge &c - and Mr Jones is so poor he is not able to pay any Costs -
Yours &c. Wm B Goff
Harmon Jones Affidavit

Herman Jones's Case under the Act 18 March 1878.
31. March 1878
1818-9-4 1878.7.4

State of New York
Merkimer County ss Richard Jones of the Town of Schuyler in the County of Merkimer being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is acquainted with Harmon Jones and was acquainted with him in the American Revolution that he the said Harmon Jones, Enlisted as a private Soldier on the first day of April 1781 on the Conti- nental Establishment, in a Company Company Commanded by Captain Doss in Col Van Courtlandt's Regiment for the term of Nine Months, (New York Line, and that he this deponent served with him the said Harmon Jones in said Company during said term, and was discharged on the first day of January in the year 1782, and served his time faithfully out, under the Enlistment as aforesaid
Sworn before me
This 5th day of June 1826
Richard Jones
John Clahan Judge of the Court of Common Pleas
I certify that Richard Jones who took the fore- going oath is a credible Witness -
John Clahan

Form Person Affidavit
Clerks Office Herkimer County
} }
I Abijah Beckwith Clerk of said County do hereby Certify under the seal of my said Office that that John Mahon whose Signature appears to the within affidavit was, at the time of taking the same, one of the Judges of the Court of Common pleas in and for the County of Herkimer and duly Qualified as such —
Abijah Beckwith Clerk

Kerman Jones
Percussion paper

State of New York Oneida County ss. John Caine of the town of Rome, in the County of Oneida being duly sworn, doth depose and say, that he is well acquainted with Harman Jones, and was in the American Revolution, that he the said Harman on or about the first of April 1781 enlisted as a private soldier for the term of nine months in a Company commanded by Capt Geo. New York line, and that during all the nine months, this deponent served in the Regiment to which the said Harman belonged, and that the said Harman served faithfully the said nine months as aforesaid, and was discharged as this deponent understands at Fort Herkimer, sometime in January 1782, and further this deponent says not. John Caine
CLERK'S OFFICE, ONEIDA COUNTY, } ss.
I, JOHN H. OSTROM, Clerk of the County of Oneida, do hereby certify, that Benjamin P. Johnson whose name is subscribed to the certificate of the annexed Oath or affidavit
and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, of oath a Commissioner in and for said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised by law, to take the proof and acknowledgment of DEEDS, and discharge of MORTGAGES, &c. : and further, that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Benjamin P. Johnson and verily believe the signature of "B. P. Johnson" subscribed to the said certificate, to be the proper hand writing of the said Commissioner
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said County, this 14 th day of June A. D. 1826.
J. H. Ostrom clk
over d the 6. State Co.

State of New York Oneida County
John Caine of the town of Rome, in the County of Oneida being duly sworn, doth depose and say, that he is well acquainted with Harman Jones, and was in the American Revolution, that he the said Harman on or about the first of April 1781 enlisted as a private soldier for the term of nine months in a Company commanded by Capt Geo. New York line, and that during all the nine months, this deponent served in the Regiment to which the said Harman belonged, and that the said Harman served faithfully the said nine months as aforesaid, and was discharged as this deponent understands at Fort Halkimer sometime in January 1782, and further this deponent says not.
John Caine
Personally appeared before me the above named John Caine, who I am acquainted with and believe him a credible witness and made solemn oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit. April 29 th 1826.
Y. D. V. Johnson A Commissioner to take affidavits in Oneida Co.

20.223 HERKINER N.Y. Herman Goss N.Y.
Apr 13. Goss Herkimer, N.Y.
Recd 5 Sept 1827
FREE
James Barbour Esq. Library at War Washington

To the Hon. James Barker Esqr. Enclosed I send you Mr. Jones Insolvent papers - Will you have the goodness to send me his Certificate directed to me at, Kirkcudbright or such other communication as you may deem proper -
Kirkcudbright January 29 th 1827
Thos. Goff

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Res. file w
Amsterdam, N. Y., January 22, 1923 .
Bureau of Pensions , Revolutionary War Section, Department of the Interior , Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen : -
I understand that William Jones, 2d, served in the Revolution from Montgomery County, N. Y., and Herman Jones from Herkimer County , N. Y. Will you kindly let me have copies of pension applications, if any ; or record ?
Yours very truly,
Edith V. Becker.
Mrs. Frank N. Becker, 93 Guy Park Ave., Amsterdam, N. Y.