Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R 6877, for John Manning, North Carolina

SERVICE
N. B.
NUMBER _____
R 6877
Manning, John
CONTENTS

For the purpose of obtaining the amount of pay accruing to me for the half year ending on the 2 nd day of September 1828 (or of the pay accruing to me since that date) under the act entitled "an act for the Relief of certain surviving officers & soldiers of the army of the Revolution" approved 15 th of May 1828 I John Manning of the District of Richland in the state of South Carolina Do hereby declare I was a private soldier in the North Carolina Line in the Army of the Revolution in the Continental Line & that I served to the end of the war in Capt Carle's Company - Witness my hand this fifth day of September in
the year of our Lord 1829. Subscribed & sworn to this John X Manning before me mark Benj. Russell D. H.
Before me Benj. Russell Justice of the peace & I know the contents of Richland came John Taylor & James O'Neall of said District who sincerely made oath that John Manning by whom the foregoing was made & subscribed is well known to them to be the person described & that he is generally reported & believed to have been a private soldier of the army of the Revolution in manner as

America State & that the said Declaration was signed & made by the said John Manning in the presence on the day & date herein. Witness my hand this 5th day of September 1829.
Benj. Rawls 24
John Layton
James O'Hanlon
I James L Guegnard Clerk of the Court of the Pleas of Richland in the State of South Carolina do hereby certify that Benjamin Rawls before whom the foregoing Affidavit was sworn, was at the time a Justice of the Inferior for the said District and duly empowered to administer Oaths
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court this fifth day of September in the year One thousand eight hundred and twenty nine
James L Guegnard Clerk of Court

State of South Carolina Richland District.
1722
Personally appeared before me John Cooper
Witnesseth and made oath that nearly at the close of the Revolutionary War he was privy to & perfectly acquainted with the circumstances attending the enlistment of his Brother John Manning into the Continental Army. That according to a Law passed by the Legislature of North Carolina the population of each County according to the number of Militia in it was compelled to furnish a soldier for the Continental Line. That the District or Division of men so bound contracted with his said Brother to serve for the term of eighteen months. That he knows his brother put himself under the command of a Continental officer, but has not recollected the name of the officer - his said Brother remained absent from his family & relations for about a twelve month, & returned having in his possession a discharge from the Continental Army at the close of the war. That he is certain that this discharge was complete & perfect, for upon its validity depended the recovery of the money from the men composing the Division in Marlinton County on whose account he listed - His said Brother said these persons in said County of it was deemed by the Magistrates who tried the cause that altho his Brother had not served to the end of the eighteen months yet as he had served to the end of the war & got his discharge he had performed his contract with them & he recovered his money according to these circumstances he was present at & acquainted with at the time of the happening - His Brother afterwards being a single man & not permanently settled gave to his Deponent the said discharge & he had it in his possession for a great many years but in moving about & having at times become entitled to, he lost the said paper as he did

some of his own papers of value to him - but precisely in what manner he lost his Discharge (it being a paper deemed of little value) he can not say, but conjectures that it was eaten & mutilated by mice or some of his his Dispersers own said papers were, to his knowledge - The further deposes. That altho' he was not himself present in the Continental Army at the time of the rendering of the Services by his Brother yet he is under a perfect conviction & belief that his Brother did perform the said Services & did continue to render them until the end of the War & until he was honorably discharged. Sworn to before me this 14 th day of August 1829.
John Cooper J. D. William Manning

Columbia Sept 5 th 1829. The Hon ble S. D. England Secretary of the Treasury of the United States.
Sir,
Inclosed are the only Documents which I think can be procured in the case of John Manning he is very ignorant & very poor & on this account I have taken some pains to get at the History of his services - they were not great to be sure, but if he served to the end of the War & without reproach as I very believe he did he comes within the provision of act referred to, & I hope will be relieved from cost in his old age. I am at least confident after investigating his claim you will do what is right with great respect I am Yours truly John Taylor

John Taylor for John Manning. Rec 11 Sept 1898.
520.
The Honble J. D. Dugdale
1898

CH Ref
File #
6877

John Manning - No Car. line
Rob.
S. Carolina
Ref. File no 6877
OK
Not allowed
Act 1828

I find from the roll of N. C. Officers, that Carter is returned as a 1 st Lieut. and Thomas Pasteur as an Ensign in the 4 th reg t and A. Lytle as a Lt. Col. in the 6 th . It is probable that at the close of the war they were all promoted in one reg t and perhaps Pasteur might have commanded Carter's company; but as we are not positive concerning such changes, Mr. Hanlon must be written to again. 13 See letter to James O.
Hanlon, Esq. of Columbia, S. C. July 25. 1823.

Case of John Man- ning, revo: S. Carolina.
Susp? See letter to J. O. Haulon 25 July 1823.
6877

Acts of July 14, 1902, and March 3, 1978.
REJECTED
6877
P. O. _____
John Fleming Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

Revolutionary Claims.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
28 Sept 1829.
John Manning — of _____ in the county of Richland Dist in the State of South Carolina has applied to the Secretary of the Treasury for the benefits of the act, entitled "An act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the Revolution," approved the 15th of May, 1828. He states that he enlisted in the Continental line of the army of the Revolution, for and during the war, and continued until its termination, at which period he was a Private _____ in captain Bartow 's company, in the _____ regiment of the N Carolina line; and that he received a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars, provided by the resolve of the 15th of May, 1778; and further, that he was not on the 15th day of May, 1828, on the pension list of the United States, and that he has received as a pensioner since the 3d of March, 1826, nothing .
The Third Auditor is requested to report how far the several statements are corroborated by the records in his office.
By Order of the Secretary. F. A. Dickinson.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
THIRD AUDITOR'S OFFICE,
29 th September 1829
It appears by the records in this office, that a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars has been issued to _____ in the _____
It further appears that John Manning — not is now on the pension list of any — — — — — agency, and has been so since the 3 d March 1826 at the rate of dollars per month.
A certificate appears to have been issued for John Manning's pay to the 15 th November 1783, but his name cannot be found among those of the North Carolina line to whom Certificates for the gratuity of Eighty Dollars were issued.
John Hagner
W. H. ...

State of North Carolina, Secretary's Office 13 th May 1823.
I William Hill Secretary of State in and for the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that it appears from the Musterrolls of the Continental line of the State that John Manning a private in said line in Capt. Carters Company of the 10 th  Regt. was mustered in the year 1782 for 18 months, and that nothing more is said of him on said rolls.
Given under my hand at office in Raleigh the date above
W. Hill
There was no Capt. by the name of Thomas Moser or folo. by the name of Hickle in the N. Carolina Continental line, there was a Major Thomas Hogg in the 5 th Regt. and may have been transferred to the 10 th all the 9, 12 & 18 months men were transferred to the 10 th Regt.
Given under my hand this 13 th May 1823.
W. Hill Secy State N.C.

Columbia S.C. June 28th. 1823
Mr, By the request of Mr John Manning, I again apply to have his name en= rolled on the Pension list. Yours of the 19th ult. inform= ed me of a mistake, in the names of the Captain and Colonel whose command he was under. I have no doubt it was created by the inad= vertence of Mr. McCord, the gentleman who first took down the old man's statement; for the moment I mentioned it to Mr Manning, he ex press = ed his surprise & astonishment that such an error could have been committed. However, it is possible, that the old man's memory is so impaired, as to have for=

gotten. The particulars of those days, that have long gone by. He bears the marks of one who has been the constant playmate of misfortune.
He had been a volunteer for some time in the service of his country previous to his enlistment. The character of Mr. Mannix is that of a sober, industrious and virtuous old man. He is now dependent upon the charity of his neighbors for the common necessaries of life. Therefore I must beg that this application will receive that attention, which the situation of this old veteran calls for. I have corrected the error committed in the first, and have made out a new declaration agreeable to the form sent me, so

far as I am capable of judg- ing the meaning of it; If I have, and the claimants claim is just, (which I believe it is) It is to be hoped, it will not be upwards of three months before it will be attended to.
Respectfully Sir,
Yours &c
James B. Henson
J. L. Edwards Esq. Washington City

War Department, Pension Office, 25 th July 1823.
Sir,
In answer to your letter respecting the claim of John Manning, I have to inform you, that his name is not on the rolls of the regiment in which he states to have served. Thomas Pasteur, the Officer under whom he says he served, is returned on our rolls as an Ensign in the 4 th regiment, and Lytle, who is stated by him to have commanded the regiment, was a Lieut. Colonel in the 6 th regiment. It is possible that they might have been promoted in one regiment afterwards; but of this I am not very confident. A man by the name of Manning is returned on the rolls of Captain Carter's company; but that Officer's company was not attached to either of the above named regiments. Unless the claimant's statement be supported by the testimony of credible witnesses, or corroborated by the records of the Department, no pension can be allowed. The declaration is herewith returned, to afford the applicant an opportunity of substantiating his claim, by some explanatory statement, or additional proof.
I am, respectfully, W. C. Sert. J. L. Edwards
John O. Hanlon, Esq. Columbia, S. C.

Columbia St. March 28 th 1827,
This paper explains why Mr Manning has not been enrolled on the pension list. His memory appears to have failed him and particularly in regard to the officers under whose command he served in the Revolutionary War. From the within statement, he was doubtless in the company commanded by Capt. Barker. And I think that if Capt. Barker will certify to the fact and give a corroborating statement of the services of this old soldier, there is no doubt but what he will receive from his country, the small pittance which he is so justly entitled to. I made two applications to the War Department to obtain for him a pension, but neither of his schedules being correct, the application was rejected and the schedule returned. The last of which, with the letter accompanying it is herewith given up to Mr Manning. It may serve as a guide to whoever may feel disposed to take an interest in behalf of one of the poor who still linger here, who belonged to that gallant band, who established a resting place for the independence and happiness of mankind.

And who will leave us without any cause for complaint on our part, except it be that by their services they have imposed upon us an obligation of gratitude which nothing can ever repay. And I for one shall never hesitate to acknowledge this debt, satisfied as I am that I can never do any thing that will go to liquidate the interest that has already accrued upon it.
James H. Carlton
I called on Capt. Carter, & had a long conversation with him about this claimant. He declined giving a certificate for him, as he said he did not recollect him - but said he never the old man told the truth, that as there were but four companies of the North Carolina Line with Genl. Greene, the remnants of companies were thrown together at the close of Greene's campaign; in this way his company was strengthened & that too at the time he Capt. Carter was sent to North Carolina by the Generals in the Southern Department; the anecdotes which he said the old man related of Person & occurrences in the camp fully satisfied him, that he had served to the end of the war. I firmly believe it too.
John Taylot.