Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 25843, John J Vrooman, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York.
Urooman, John J. Army
W 25843
CONTENTS

Albany 31.641
John S. Noorman
of Schenectady Co in the State of New York who was a Pr. Inf. Batty in the company commanded by Captain Peck of the reg't commander by in the N. York Pr. Inf. 1 mo. & 14 Days 4.97 line for - Battalion 11 mo & 24 Days 39.33 $44.30
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 44 Dollars 30 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 25 th day of July 1839 and sent to G. F. Yates
Arrears to the 4th of March '39 354.40 Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Sept. 22.15 $376.55
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by D. Brown Clerk Book E. 2, Vol. 4 Page 78

Income
No. 3764
New York
Amy Vrooman widow of John J. who served in the Revolutionary war, as a Private  Balthazar
Albany agency.
Rate  76  Dollars ad cents per annum.
Commencing  July 27/08 Annual payment made since
Certificate dated  May 6/09 and sent to  Claimant Care of Peter Boice Schenectady N.Y.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act F
1859  Page  9, 9  Vol

No 5719
Anny Vrooman widow of John S. N.Y.
Act 3 Feb 1853
Pa $411.30 per annu Comg 3 Feb 1853
Albany Nat
Wm P. Rowe 14 of 17

State of New York City & County of Schenectady ss On this 18 th day of January A D 1854 personally appeared before the County Court of the County of Schenectady of the State of New York Amy Vrooman a resident of the said City County & State aged Seventy Five Years the 28 th day of July last Who first being duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed 3 rd February 1853 granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War That she is the Widow of John J Vrooman who under the Act of 7 th June 1832 had procured a pension for Revolutionary services of 44 30 /100 Dollars per annum paid at the Albany N Y Agency She further declares that she was married to the said John J Vrooman on the 5 th day of November Eighteen Hundred & fifteen That she was not married to him prior to the second day of January Eighteen Hundred but at the time above stated She further declares that she is now a Widow
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written before me
J. H. Johnson
County Judge of Schenectady
Amy Vrooman

On this 18 th day of January A D 1854 John J Van Vorst of the City and County of Schenectady & State of New York appeared in open Court in the said County of Schenectady at the County Court Who being first duly sworn according to law deposes & says that he is aged Fifty One Years That he was well acquainted with John J Vrooman in his life time and worked for him as an apprentice That this deponent was present when the Rev Andrew Gates married him to Amy Rowe on the 5 th day of November A D 1815 And this deponent further says that the said John J Vrooman died on the 10 th day of November 1841 at the City of Schenectady leaving the said Amy his widow and who is still a widow and unmarried And that the said John J Vrooman was reputed to be a soldier in the Revolution That the time of his death is inser- -ibed on his Tombstone at the time above stated Subscribed & sworn to before me this 18 th day of January 1854 and I certify that he is a credible witness
J. H. Johnson
County Judge
John J Van Vorst

On this 19 th day of January A D 1854 Nicholas Van Vranken of the City city county & state duly appearing before me who being duly sworn according to law says that he is aged Sixty Two Years That he was well acquainted with the above named John J Vrooman that he died at the city of Schenectady on or about the 10 th day of November 1841 leaving the said Amy his widow and that she is still a widow And this deponent further says that they were reputed to be husband and wife so called each other and lived together as such till he died
N. Van Vranken
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 19 th January 1854 & I certify that he is a credible Witness
S. H. Johnson County Judge

On this 19 th day of January A D 1854 Thomas Dunlap M D of the City and County of Schenectady and State of New York appeared in the said County Court and being first duly sworn deposes And says that he is aged 72 years that he was well acquainted with the said John J Vrooman and was employed by him as his family physician for many years that he died on or about the 10 th day of November 1841 leaving the said Amy his wife his widow and that she is now a widow that they were reputed to have been married and were recognized and known in said City as husband and wife and so calling each other until his death That he was reputed to have been a Soldier in Revolutionary War
Subscribed & sworn to before me Thomas Dunlap this 19 th day of January 1854 And
I certify that he is a credible Witness
S. H. Johnson County Judge

Hannah A. Gates of the city and county of Schenectady, and State of New York appeared in said court who being first duly sworn according to Law deposes and says that she is now upwards of sixty years of age, that she is the Widow of the Rev Andrew Gates late of said city deceased. That she knows that her late husband kept a Record of Marriages made by him, and that she has seen said Record and she further says that she has made diligent search among the papers of her said husband for the said Record of Marriages, but cannot find the same and this deponent further saith that she well remembers the circumstance of the Marriage of John J. Voorhies, and Amy Voorhies and that she was then acquainted with them that she heard her said husband speak of the fact of the said Marriage, and further this deponent saith not -
Subscribed and sworn to before Hannah A. Gates on the 19 th day of January 1854 - J. H. Johnson County Judge

I Stephen H. Johnson County Judge of Schenectady County, before whom the Declaration of Amy Vrooman John J. Van Vorst, Nicholas Van Vranken Thomas Dunlap and Hannah A. Gates credible Witnesses at said Court were sworn. Do certify that it Satisfactorily appears to said Court that the said John J. Vrooman was Married to the said Amy Rose on the 5 th day of November A D 1815. And that the said John J. Vrooman Died on the 10 th day of November 1841 leaving the said Amy Vrooman his Widow and that she is still a Widow remaining S. H. Johnson County Judge
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COUNTY OF SCHENECTADY, } ss. CLERK'S OFFICE.
I, MARVIN STRONG, Clerk of the County of Schenectady, DO HEREBY CERTIFY,
That S. H. Johnson Esq. before whom the foregoing Affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same, a
County Judge in and for said County, duly commissioned and qualified as such; and that I am well acquainted with the hand-writing of the said Judge
and verily believe that the signature to said
Affidavit and Certificate is genuine.
In Witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County, this
10 th day of February 185 4
Marvin Strong Clerk.

31641 31832 In the matter of the application of John J. Vrooman for a Pension under the act of 7 th June 1832.
Proceedings -
In Roll, Capt Pack
Admitted mo Pm to Belknap 11 624 aug 0 do Infantry 1. 14 " 13, 8
Agent
Giles F. Yates Schenectada N.Y.

State of New York County of Schenectada } ss. On this tenth day of October 1838, [personally appeared in open Court, before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Schenectada aforesaid,] personally appeared in open Court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County [John, or] John D. Vrooman , a resident of the City of Schenectada in said County, aged seventy five years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7 th 1832.
That he this Declarant was born in the year 1763 on the fifth day of April — in the then township of Schene- tada in said County (then County of Albany) & State of New York. The record of his age is contained in his Family Bible.
When he was called into the service of the United States in the army of the Revolution, he was living in said town- ship, & since the revolutionary war, he has lived in no other place.
In the spring of the year 1779 he enlisted or was enrolled in the Company of militia commanded by Captain John Mynduse in the Regiment of Colonel Abraham Wemple. His other Officers whom he recollects, were James H. Peck & Lawrence Mynduse Lieutenants, Abraham Swift &

Nyndert Wemple Mayors.
The first tour of duty he performed as a member of said Company, was for one month in the fall of the year 1779 at Fort Paris in Stone Arabia - said Nyndert had during that month the command of said fort. On this tour he served pursuant to draft made from said Regiment.
He served at Beavertown for one week under command of Major Wemple but cannot remember the year - At Helderberg one week under Captain Thomas B. Banker at Schoharie four days, he thinks in the year 1778 -
On the first day of January 1780, he this Declarant enlisted in the Company of Batteauxmen, fatigue men & laborers commanded by Captain Joseph Peck for their term of one year, to wit until the first day of January 1781 - and served till 24 th December 1780
In 1781, he marched to Johnstown with a detachment of militia from said Regiment to wit in the fall of that year, under command of Captain John Nyndert, & served for the term of two weeks.
He this Declarant also served at Schenectada, performing garrison duty there for different periods of time, which this Deponent is unable to specify, but knows that in the whole it extended six months. The names of the officers under whom he served in these engagements, were Col. Dayton Col. Van Dyck, Col. Ganservoort Adj t Genl. H. St.

Col. ... THE FOLLOWING are the names of some of the regular officers whom he knew, or who were with the troops where he served, and such continental and militia regiments or companies with which he served, or as he can recollect, in addition to those
herein before named, Major Fish, Col. Cook- land, Col. Dubois & Col. Willett — General Schuyler
He never received any written discharge from the service.
He has no — documentary evidence, and knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service, except those whose affidavits are hereto subjoined —
The following are the names of persons to whom he is known in his present neighborhood, and who can testify as to his character for veracity, and their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution, to wit James V. S. Ryley and Giles F. Yates
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever, to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Subscribed and sworn to the day and year first aforesaid
W. H. Dredway Deputy Clerk.
John J. Keenan
[Large vertical wavy scribble]

WE  James V. S. Ryley residing in the city of Schenectady in the county of Schenectady aforesaid, and Giles F. Yates residing in the city of Schenectady in said county, do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John J. Vrooman who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy five years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Subscribed and sworn the day and year aforesaid
W. W. Treadway Dep. Clerk.
James V. S. Ryley G. F. Yates
AND THE SAID COURT do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the court further certifies, that it appears to them that James V. S. Ryley and Giles F. Yates who have signed the above certificate, are residents of said City of Schenectady , and are both credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I W. W. Treadway Deputy Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, in and for the county of Schenectady do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John J. Vrooman for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this tenth day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty-eight
W. W. Treadway Dep. Clerk.

On the 16 th day of October 1838 personally appeared before me one of the Justices of the peace in and for said county James W. S. Ryley of said city of Schenectady in said County, to me well known, who being duly sworn saith, that John J. Vrooman, who has subscribed and sworn to the preceding declaration, did serve in the revolutionary war in the same company with this Deponent. As this Deponent remembers to have seen him perform garrison duty in said Company at Fort Paris in Stone Arabia in the year 1778, according to the best of this Deponent's recollection for at least one month. James W. S. Ryley
Personally appeared before me the undersigned James W. S. Ryley and made oath, that the facts set forth in the above deposition by him signed are true, and I certify that said James W. S. Ryley is a credible witness - Myrwill Perry J.P.

The Deposition of Joseph Peck of the City and County of Schenectady and State of New York, who testifies and says, that he was during the war of the revolution in the years 1779 & 1780, Captain of a Company of Batteauxmen, fatigue men and laborers in the Department of the Quarter Master General of the United States, as set forth in the documents now on file in the matter of the application of this Deponent for a pension under the act of Congress passed 7 th June 1832. That John J. Vrooman, who is now an applicant for a pension under said act formerly wrote his name without a "J", and that he subsequently inserted the letter "J" to distinguish his name from other individuals also named John Vrooman, but that John J. Vrooman the applicant aforesaid, is the identical person, whose name appears to the original payrolls of the Company of this Deponent marked A. & B. now in the possession of the Commissioner of Pensions - from which and in accordance with the recollection and personal knowledge of this Deponent, it appears, that said John was a private in the Company aforesaid in the year 1780, and this Deponent further testifies that said John enlisted therein on or about the first day of January 1780 and served for the term of one year, or until about the 24 th day of December 1780 -
Joseph Peck
On this 10 th day of October 1838, personally appeared before me the undersigned

and served for the term of one year, or un- till about the 24 th day of December 1780.
Joseph Peck
On this 16 th day of October 1838, personally appeared before me the under- signed, Joseph Peck above named, to me well known, and made oath that the facts set forth in the foregoing dep- osition by him subscribed are true, and I certify that said Joseph Peck is a credible witness.
Roswell Perry J.P.
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COUNTY OF SCHENECTADY, CLERK'S OFFICE.
I,
Archibald Campbell
Clerk of said County,
DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That
Roswell Perry
before whom the foregoing Affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same a Justice of the peace in and for said county, duly commissioned and qualified as such; and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Roswell Perry and verily believe that the signature to said Affidavit and Certificate thereto are genuine.
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said county, this 22 day of March 1839.
Arch d Campbell Clerk.

January 29, 1937.
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Mrs. George F. Walker 631 North Poinsettia Place Los Angeles, California
BA--J/ady cur John J. Vrooman W.25843
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter relative to John J. Vroom and Adam Vrooman, soldiers of the Revolutionary War.
The record of the only Adam Vrooman that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this office was furnished you on October 5, 1935.
The data contained herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, W.25843, based upon the military service of John J. Vrooman in that war.
John J. Vrooman was born April 5, 1763 in Schenectady Township, Albany County, that part which was later Schenectady County, New York. The names of his parents are not designated.
While a resident of said Schenectady Township, John J. Vrooman enlisted in the fall of 1779 and served one month at Fort Paris in Stone Arabia, under Captain John Mynderse and Colonel Abraham Wemple. He enlisted, date not stated, and served one week at Beaverdam, under Major Wemple. He also served one week at Heldebergh, in Captain Thomas B. Bancker's New York Company, date not given. He enlisted in 1778 and served four days at Schoharie, names of officers not given. He enlisted January 1, 1780, served as private in Captain Joseph Peek's Company of Batteauxmen, and was discharged December 24, 1780. He enlisted in the fall of 1781 and served two weeks at Johnstown in Captain John Mynderse's New York Company. He also served at various times, six months in all, performing garrison duty at Schenectady in Colonels Dayton's, Van Dyck's and Gansevoort's New York Regiments.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 10, 1838, at which time he was a resident of Schenectady, Schenectady County, New York, where he had always lived.
the Rm General's Department
add next time

John J. Vrooman died November 10, 1841, in Schenectady, New York.
Soldier married November 5, 1815, place not stated, Amy Rowe, who was born July 28, 1778, place, and the names of her parents are not shown.
Soldier's widow, Amy Vrooman, was allowed pension on her application executed January 18, 1854, at which time she was a resident of Schenectady, New York. She was still living there in 1869.
In 1869 one Peter Rowe was residing in Schenectady, New York, his age or relationship to the family not stated. There are no further family data.
This is the record of the only John Vrooman that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this office.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator
Date of widow's death not on A/B,

Los Angeles Calif
Jan 13 1937
Veterans Administration
Dear Sir
I would like information on the following soldiers in the Revolutionary War . John J. Vrooman of Schenecady N.Y. he served under Col Dayton Van Slyck and Gansevoort , was a pensioner .
Adam Vrooman of Schenectady N.Y. enlisted Oct 1776 under Capt John Mynderse 2nd Albany Co Militia . was a pensioner under the act of June 7 1808.
any information will be greatly recieved as to these partys above seems as though there is a disput mix some where as to who they are the sons of .
I thank you very much for the information
Very Truly Yours
Mr Geo F Walker
631 No Poinsettia Place Los Angeles Calif

Rev
WIDOW, &c.
1937 Jan. 29. Hist. to Miss Geo. F. Walker a. 10 y.
File No. 25843
Mrs. Trauman wid of John C. Trauman Pr. S. S. W.
Act Feb 3d 53
Index: Vol U , Page 291
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Schenectady Apr 13 th 1869 Hon Christopher C Cox } Commissioner of Pensions }
Dr Sir Yours
of the 3 rd inst in relation to the increase of Pension of Amy Vrooman enclosing form for application & in answer to my communication of the 30 th ult is received I now send you enclosed the necessary affidavits in relation thereto I also send you enclosed the original certificate for Pension which I suppose to be necessary if not please return it If the matter is all correct please send me the new certificate for increase of Pension and Oblige
Yours Truly Peter Lowe

New York
John J. Vroman
Sup Declaration
In Little Hm John J. Delpratt
May 22 1838
to same June 13. 1838

J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions
War Department

In the matter of the application of John J. Vrooman for a pension, under the act of 7 th June 1832. —
J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions. Sir,
The above named applicant made his declaration un- der said act, in the fall of the year 1832, but his papers were returned for the want of sufficient Specification of service. This he was unable to give except as to service in the Quartermaster's Department which was not then, nor for some time afterwards, deemed to come within the provisions of said act. It was not until after Captain Joseph Peck had found his payrolls about a year since, that the applicant was able to establish his claim clearly to service in the said department.

Since the present papers were made out I have kept them on hand, with the hope that I would have been able to procure an additional number of witnesses - but having failed in this, the applicant is obliged to rest his claim on the following described services -
  To service at Fort Paris (Stone Arabia) in 1779 -  14 months    Beaverdam  1/4 -    Waldenburgh  1/4 -    under Capt. Jos. Puck in 1780 -  12 -    at Johnstown in 1781 -  1/2 -     12 mo 7 days  
Yours respectfully
Giles H. WATTS
Schenectady May 7 th 1838.

3.761 Increase Brief in the Case of Amy Vrooman, Widow of John I Private and Battalions War Dept. Schenectady Schenectady County and State of New York. Act 2 d Feb Feb 3, 1853. Albany
CLAIM FOR NEW PENSION CERTIFICATE,
PROOF EXHIBITED,
Pension at $44.30 pr. Annum. Certificate returned
Claims increased as provided by 13 th sec Act July 27, 1868.
Personal identity and continued Widowhood properly shown.
Admitted May 3, 1869 to Pension at $96. pr annum to commence July 27, 1868, deducting pay d since.
Name and residence of Agent.
W. E. Frack Examining Clerk.
Claimant.
Care Peter Rowe Schenectady New York

Deed in the case of Amy Vrooman Schenectady County and State of N.Y. act 9 Feb 1853
Claim, ("original," or "for increase.")
Proof exhibited, (if original.)
Is it documentary, traditional, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance.
Husband was a freeholder at $141.30 per annum. Marriage proved by living witnesses who were present.
(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?
Wm P. Rowe
Name and residence of Agent
W of R
S. R.
Examining Clerk.

Christopher C. Coffey James M. French Esq. Pensioners
Payment to be made at Albany by James M. French Esq. Agent for paying Pensioners, in the Agency of
New York
Payable on the 4th September and 4th March
Recorded in the Pension Office on the Roll of Pensioners under act February 3d, 1853, Page 86, Vol. A.
Clerk.
J. B. Wrightman

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR. WIDOW'S PENSION.
I certify that in conformity with the 2d section of the act of Feb- ruary 3, 1853,
Mary Vrooman widow of John J. Vrooman who was a Pirate & Private in the revolutionary war, is inscribed on the pension list at the rate of forty-four dollars and thirty cents per annum, commencing on the 3d of February, 1853, and continuing for life, unless she should again marry; in which case the Pension is not payable after the time of such marriage.
Given at the Department of the Interior, this twenty seventh day of February one thousand eight hundred and fifty-four
Howland C. Clark Secretary of the Interior.
Examined and Countersigned.
S. M. M. Walton Commissioner of Pensions.

To J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions.

War Department
Pension Office
June 13. 1838
Sir The original papers of John I. Vroman having as it appears been destroyed, the claimant should re- new his declaration in a court of record; His said papers are herewith returned for that purpose
I have the honor to be
Respectfully
Your obed servt
J. L. Caward
Hon John I. Delgraft House Reps ALG

J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Sir
In conformity with the requisition contained in the accompanying letter, the applicant waited for the sitting of the Court in this county in October last, to renew his application in open Court. Press of other busi- ness has prevented me from sending on his papers till now -
I am yours respectfully
Giles H. Clarke
Schenectady Mar. 22 d 1839.
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To J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions.

War Department Pension Office
June 13. 1838
Sir The original papers of John J. Vroman having as it appears been destroyed, the claimant should re- new his declaration in a court of record; His said papers are herewith returned for that purpose
I have the honor to be
Respectfully
Your obed servt
J. L. Edwards
Hon John J. Delgraft House Reps ALG

State of New York } City & County of Schenectady } ss: On this twelfth day of April A.D. one thousand eight hundred and sixty nine personally appeared before me a Commissioner of Seeds ————— within and for the City of Schenectady in the County of Schenectady and State of New York aforesaid Amy Vrooman aged eighty nine years a resident of the city and County of Schenectady in the State of New York who being duly sworn ac- cording to law declares that she is the identical person to whom was granted Pension Certificate N o 3761 payable at Albany at the rate of forty four dollars and thirty cents per year issued under the act of February 3 rd 1853 that she has not remarried that she makes this declaration in order to secure the increase of her pension to which she is entitled under the thirteenth section of the act of July 27 th 1868
My post office address is the city of Schenectady
Amy VROOMAN
Also personally appeared Peter Rowe and Mary Ann Clifford residents of the city of Schenectady Persons whom I certify to be respectable and entitled to credit and who being by me duly sworn say that they were present and saw her sign her name to the foregoing declaration and they further swear that they have every reason to believe from the appearance of the applicant and their acquaintance with her that she is the identical person she represents herself to be and that they have no over

over
interest in the prosecution of this claim
Peter Rowe Mary Anne Clapper
Sworn to and subscribed before me this twelfth day of April A D 1869: and I hereby certify that I have no interest direct or indirect in the prosecution of this claim
James Fullen
Commissioner of Deeds &c

STATE OF NEW YORK, } COUNTY OF SCHENECTADY, CLERK'S OFFICE. } ss.
I, JAMES G. CAW, Clerk of the County of Schenectady, and of the Courts of Records therein, do hereby certify, That James Fuller Esq., before whom the foregoing Affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same a
Commissioner of Deeds in and for said county, duly commissioned and qualified as such; and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said James Fuller and verily believe that the signature to said Affidavit and certificate is genuine.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County, this 12 th day of April 1869.
James G. Caw Clerk.

3761 New York, Albany Amy Vrooman widow of John J.
who served in the Revolutionary
war, as a { Private  Battalion
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 44 Dollars 30 Cents per annum, to commence on the 3d February, 1853.
Certificate of Pension issued the 27 th day of May 1854 and sent to
Hon P. Nave House of Reps
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 3, 1853, Page 86, Vol. A
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34519 In the matter of the application of John J. Vrooman for a pension under the act of 7 th June 1832.
Supplemental Deposition
Hon. J. J. DeGraff XDR

Wm
War Department
Pension Office
May 22, 1838
Sir The supplemental affidavits of John S. Wilson an applicant for a pension under the act of June 7, 1832 has been examined and filed. The original declaration which forms an essential part of the case, should before a satisfactory investigation of the claim can be had be returned to this office - The original papers of the claimant were delivered to the Hon John Cramer on the 4 th March 1834
Respectfully
Your obed servt
J L Edwards
For John S Delgraft
Home Reps
W G

In the matter of the application of John S. Vrooman for a pension under the act of 7 th June 1832.
To J. L. Edwards Esq Commissioner of Pensions Sir:
In answer to your letter of the 22 nd May ult: in reference to the above matter, I beg leave respectfully to represent, that the original papers of the claimant were made out by me sometime during the year 1833, if I remember right, and committed to the charge of the Hon: John Cramer then member of Congress from this district. The claim was rejected (it seems in the Spring of the year 1834) & the papers handed back to Mr Cramer, with whom I was in correspondence respecting this & other claims, and returned to me by mail. They were rejected on the ground that six months actual service has not been specified in con- formity with the rules of your office, & that the performance of garrison duty at Schu- nektada was not deemed military service. Mr Vrooman in consequence was obliged to aban- don his application, though he repeatedly urged me to write to you again on the subject when

he saw me. As he was unable to procure ad- ditional testimony I refused to trouble you any further in the premises; and it was by the merest accident that I did not destroy his, as I have done other rejected pension papers. When your Department decided that services performed in the Department of the Quarter Master General came within the provisions of the act of 7 th June 1832, he desired me to renew his application. His service under Captain Joseph Peck not having been set forth by me in his original papers for the reason that it was excluded, as I then understood it to be by said act. I looked among my old pension papers and found the original declaration of Mr. Vrooman, from which I detached the affidavit of Mr. Henry which could not again be obtained, he being deceased, but procured a new affidavit of James N. S. Ryley another witness who is still living. To save the trouble of recomposing, or making a new draft of Mr. Vrooman's papers, I merely added the service under Captain Peck, and in- terlined a few words at different places and altered the phraseology, but did not alter the terms of service - they having been originally drawn up with much care on my part and in as full and explicit a manner as was consistent with the personal knowledge of facts which Mr. Vrooman could swear to. The original de- claration thus interlined and altered, was copied by Mr. William B. Pierce a stu-

dent at law in my office, who destroyed the original after it had been compared with the copy, & had made an anal- ysis thereof for future reference. The idea that it might be required at the Pension office did not occur to me - and I considered the affidavit you now have as an original application, or meant it should be so considered. As our County Courts sit only once every four months , it was not convenient to go through the formality of having the papers sworn to in open court , but Mr. Wooman took his oath before the first judge of those
Courts - Certify that on the fifth day of June 1838 , personally appeared John L. Wooman who signed the preceding letter & made oath that the facts set forth therein are true & correct - Rufus Perry J.P.
Giles F. Yates
I William B. Pierce do hereby certify that I made a correct transcript of the original declaration of John L. Wooman as described in the above declaration or letter of Giles F. Yates, and destroyed the original as above described after making an analy- sis of the same for future reference, and I further certify that the declaration of the said Wooman recently forwarded to the Commission of Pensions is a correct trans-

Copy of the original with the alterations above mentioned in said declaration of Giles F. Yates.
Subscribed and sworn this 5 th day of June 1838 } Wm B. Wheeler before me } Roswell Perry J.P.
STATE OF NEW-YORK, SCHENECTADY COUNTY, } ss. CLERK'S OFFICE,
I, William W. Treadway Deputy Clerk of said County
Do Hereby Certify, That Roswell Perry, before whom the annexed affidavits purport to have been sworn
and thereon written, was at the time of the dates thereof a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, dwelling therein, commissioned, sworn and duly authorized; And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand- writing of said Justice of the peace and verily believe that the signature to the annexed certificates thereto annexed are genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have set my hand and affixed the seal of said County, the seventh day of June 1838.
W. W. Treadway, Deputy Clerk.