Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 1733, Thomas Welch, N.C.

SERVICE
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Welch, Thomas
S.1733
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CONTENTS

19553 West Tennessee
Thomas Welch of White Co in the State of Tennessee who was a private in the Com. commands by Captain Morrison of the 28 th commanded by Col. McBowellen the N.C. line for 15 months
Inscribed on the Roll of West Tennessee at the rate of 50 Dollars — Cents per annum to commence on the 4 th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Sept 1833 — and Wilson & Anderson Sparta
Arrears to the 4 th of Sep 125.00 Femant. allowance ending 4 Mar 25.00 150.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Dan Boyd Clerk Book E Vol. 1 Page 101

26 6:57
Thomas Welch White Co Tennessee.
from 1776 private 15 months.
$50
Major Nelson S. Auburn Spencer.

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Thomas Welsh
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     drafted Augt. 1776 6 P. Col. Morrison Col. McDowell 84 N.E. 6 Traditions   drafted 1777 3 P. Col. McDowell   Vol. " 3 " " "   Vol. " 3 " " "  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d), with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of A. B. sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same), who has hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about here or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

State of Tennessee  SS. White County 
On this 8 th day of July A.D. 1833, personally appeared in open court before the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for said County now sitting Thomas Welch a resident citizen of White County and State of Tennessee aged Eighty four years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated. He entered the service in the latter part of the summer of the year 1776 about the 21 st of August as well as this declarant now recollects, under Captain James Morrison, his lieutenants name was David Robinson. his Col s name was Charles McLowel. He then resided in Lincoln County North Carolina and was drafted for Six months. He was marched to head quarters, at a place called Pleasant Garden at the head of the Catawby River in Burke County North Carolina under the command of Captain Archibald Fleming (or Fleming). Here he was placed in the Company commanded by Captain James Morrison. His Majors name was Richard Singleton. The object of this expedition was to go against the Cherokee Indians who had become remarkably troublesome. He remained at Pleasant Garden something like ten days until all the troops had collected there, provisions provided etc. The troops twenty two hundred in number were then marched into the Cherokee Nation, west of the Blue Ridge passing through and destroying their towns, crops etc. They were marched as far as the Over Hills towns which we also destroyed by fire. They then marched back to Cowee town where a number of the troops had been left with the Magazine & provisions. The whole of the troops were then marched back to Pleasant Garden. This declarant with others was then stationed at Cather's fort about one mile from Pleasant Garden until his Six Months expired. When he was dismissed or discharged. Col. Charles McLowel during this tour of service resigned his office.

as Colonel and was promoted to the office of General after this promotion Generals M c Dowell and Rutherford were with the troops - Declarant after being discharged as already stated, returned home to his family which consisted of a wife and one child in Lincoln County - He remained with his family a short time, when he was again drafted for three months. This declarant then returned to Gathys Fort and was placed under Captain Joseph M c Dowell, cousin of Col. Joseph M c Dowell - This declarant was here again stationed & served out his three months there and was again discharged - Declarants lieutenant named was John Davison - General M c Dowell was with the troops, he does not recollect to have seen Genl Rutherford during this tour - After being discharged he again returned home - He remained at home this time something like five or six weeks when he volunteered for three months under Captain Joseph M c Dowell again - His lieutenant again was John Davison - He was again stationed at Gathys fort where he continued for three months the time for which he had volunteered - General M c Dowell was again principal Commander of the troops - Joseph M c Dowell his captains cousin was his Colonel - He was again discharged & returned home to see his family - He again in a short time thereafter volunteered for three months and went up to fort Gathys where he was sent among others by Genl. M c Dowell out on a scouting party - John Davison above spoken of being well acquainted with the country was sent with them as commander and pilot of the party - They continued on this scouting expedition, passing the woods some fifteen twenty and far as thirty miles from the fort occasionally in the mean time returning to the fort for the purpose of imparting their discoveries, & recruiting their provisions - He served out his three months and was discharged at the fort and returned home not having been in any battle during either of his engagements, nor anything remarkable having occurred. Thus terminated the principal part of his services rendered his country & Having served in all fifteen months -

He states that he is unable from his extreme age to give the precise periods of the war when he served, but is confident that he entered the service first in August 1776 as stated by him. He has no documentary evidence, neither does he know of any person, whose testimony he can procure, who can testify as to his services. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State. —
Answers to the questions prescribed by the War Department and pronounced by the Court. —
1 st He was born in Lancaster County Pennsylvania in the year 1749. —
2 d He has no record of his age. — He once had his indentures of apprenticeship in which his age was stated but they are lost. —
3 d He resided in Lincoln County North Carolina when called into service each time. He now lives in White County Tennessee. —
4 th He was drafted twice, and twice volunteered as before stated. —
5 th He has stated as fully as he can the officers who were with the troops where he served. There were no continental Regiments with the troops where he served. He has already stated the general circumstances of his service. —
6 th He never received a written discharge from the service. —
7 th He refers to the following persons in his neighborhood, who can testify as to his character for veracity, and their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution. — (viz) William Hunter, Thomas Bounds Esq r . — Joseph Hudgens — Joseph Hunter — Nathan Bartlett. Aaron England. — There is no minister of the gospel who can be procured sufficiently acquainted with him to testify as to the general reputation of his service. —
Sworn to and subscribed in open court this 8 July 1833
Isaac Patten Clerk by S. B. O'Keefe
his Thomas M. M c Leod Mark

State of Tennessee White County
vs Thomas Bonds & William Mattock
Receiving in the County of White as hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Thomas Welch who has subscribed and sworn to above declaration that we believe him to be four eighty years of age that he is respected and beloved in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to and subscribed in open Court 8 July 1833
Thomas Bonds his William Mattock mark
Jacob Shano Clerk by J. Asham DC
Thomas Welch for 3 Reclamation of Pension
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories proposed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states and the Court further certify that Thomas Bonds & William Mattock who have signed the preceding Certificate are respectable Citizens of White County and are Creditable persons and that their statement is entitled to Credit
James Dearing Clerk
Wm Brewster Clerk
Isaac Brantley Clerk

Rev. & 1812 War Section
February 26, 1927
Bertha Sweatt Knox City Texas
Madam:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 1733, it appears that THOMAS WELCH was born in 1749 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
While a resident of Lincoln County, North Carolina, he enlisted and served as a private in the North Carolina troops as follows:
From August 21, 1776, six months in Captain James Morrison's Company in Colonel Charles McDowel's Regiment; he aided in burning the Cherokee Indian towns.
Soon afterward he served three months in Captain Joseph McDowel's Company.
Five or six weeks later he enlisted and served three months in Captain Joseph McDowel's Company in Colonel Joseph McDowel's Regiment.
Soon afterward he enlisted and served three months under Lieutenant John Davison.
He was allowed pension on his application executed July 8, 1833, at which time he was a resident of White County, Tennessee.

In 1777 he had a wife and one child but their names are not stated. The name of his father is not stated.
This is the only Thomas Welch of North Carolina that is found in the Revolutionary War records of this bureau.
The War of 1812 records of this bureau fail to afford any information in regard to a claim for pension having been made on account of the service of a Thomas Welch of North Carolina or Tennessee.
For information relative to the early history of North Carolina it is suggested that you address the Historical Commission at Raleigh, North Carolina.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT Commissioner

Sparta Tennessee July 17. 1833.
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Dear Sir.
Contrary to all expectation we have to trouble you with four more pension Claims. New Cases. Thomas Shockley - Thomas Welch - John Medley - and Joseph Cummings.
They will Of Course be attended to when it Comes to their turn.
With Great Respect Your ob t Serv t
Nelson J. Anderson

Ms. 657.
Thomas Welch

State of Tennessee July Session A.D. 1833
White County
I Jacob Shane clerk of the court of pleas and quarter sessions in and for the county of White aforesaid. Do certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court in the matter of the application of Thomas Welch for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court the 16 day of July A.D. 1833 P of the Independence of the United States the fifty Eighth
Just Jacob Shane Clerk of White County Court
By J. Abraham D.C.

29 Spate 73 18th July 3
free
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City D.C.
Mem
No. 657 658 659 660

MAR 22 1911

Mar. 24, 1911 -
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington D.C.
Dear Sir, -
I wish to obtain from the records of Revolutionary Pensioners in your Dept. whatever data there is concerning Thomas Welch , a resident of White Co. Tenn. at the time he was placed on the Pension Roll in 1833, (enlisted in North Carolina ). His name also appears in the Census of Pensioners of 1840 p. 158.
As very few records of any sort for this period can now be found in the South , a very complete statement of what records concerning this man you may have, (whether military or family) would be greatly appreciated.
Respy
George S. Stewart #46 Floral St. Newton Hlds. Mass. Highlands

Knox city Texas
Jan 4 1926
Mr. E. W. Morgan
My great grandfather Thomas Welch was in the war of 1812 I supposed he enlisted in NC he was there in 1790 and was a resident of Salisbury district Rowan co NC in 1790 served as private in the NC line a mt of pension 50 00 per year, hence he moved to was a resident of District #11 white co central Tennessee now can you tell me when he enlisted and when he was discharge and do you know I can get any information from NC

is thine any please I can write and get anything thine in NC. and dose Soldier give thine father names and address when they enlisted in war if you have it what I have asked will you please send it to me I am try to find out where he was Born and what his father names is
hope to hear soon have you any Booklet on the early Settlement of NC if not can you tell me where I can get them
. Your truly Bertha Sweat Knox City Tex

Record Division S D C Sur file 1733 Revolutionary War 1775- ans by before M.C.D. - direct letter's letter M.C.D.
Snoox City Texas
Feb 11 1927
the Treasury Department office of the auditor for interior Dept I am writer to you for some information I give you the names of parties Thomas Welch enlisted in the war of 1776 he enlisted Aug 21 - 1776 in Lincoln cone now lose th his enlistment thomas Welch give his father & mother give his father given names and where they live thomas Welch. was somewhere

2
27 years he was Born in Lancaster Co Pa it should his enlisted should show who son and where his father & mother lived at the time he enlisted hope to hear from you soon
Yours truly Bertha Sweat Kansas City Mo

Knox City Texas Nov 25 1927 United States Department of the interior Bureau
Dear Sir
I want to know if you can give me a copy of a Thomas Welch that was in the Revolutionary war. Thomas Welch enlisted in 1775 in Capt James Ross company of Riflemen. raised in Lancaster Co. Pa. -Revolution (Vol 1 page 38) (Vol 1 page 334) now if his war record give where his Birthplace and who

his father are was he a many man and did he drow a pensions and I know there is some kind of a record of this Thomas Welch and you are the only man that can give me the information I want and tell how if he was a many man or a single man and where he was Born at I hope you can tell me I don't know what co he died this Thomas Welch was in the war of 1775 was raised in Lancaster Pa then in camp at Cambridge Mass Aug 18 1775: Bertha Sweat

now I want a war record of this Richard Welsh who served in the Revolutionary war from Washington County Pa of 1775- when he enlisted and where he was born and was he a marry man You can ans all of these four letters in one and give details of all of those welch war record out of Lancaster co Pa and Richard welch of Washington co Pa Yours truly Miss Bertha Sweat

Knott city Texas Sep 16 1927 I am seeking some information about one David Thomas Welch and of Revolutionary War can you give me a list of this Thomas Welch enlisted in 1775 in Capt James Ross company of Riflemen raised in Lancaster County Pa See Pa in the Revolution Vol. 1 p 38) re-enlisted May 1 1776 same company 1st Pa Continental Regt. Capt John Holliday

Succeeded, Capt Ross Sept 25-1776 (Vol 1 p 334) now if you can give me any light on this the Thomas Welch I am try to find my Thomas Welch was Born in Lancaster Co Pa I am try to find this Thomas Welch father gives names the Thomas Welch was Born in Lancaster Co Pa 1748 hope you can give me some light on this Thomas Welch that was in Lancaster Co Pa in 1775 hope to hear from you soon

if he has any record there in your office you send me a copy of what ever you have pertame to this thomas welch I am try to make a history all I like is this thomas welch that was Born in 1749 now is his father ginen name if it is thomas welch now if you have any things on file about this thomas welch that relisted in 1775 hope to hear from you soon
Miss Bertha Sweat Knox city Texas

Rev
Ames city Texas Oct 15 1931
Director of pensions pay I am writing you for some information about a said Thomas Welch out of Va I want to know if it give any thing about Thomas Welch when he enlisted in the war and did he draw a pensions, and dose it give his Birth place and what was his father given name dose it state any thing pertained to him and when he enlisted in war can you furnished anything of said Thomas Welch as a private in Doherty's company of NC troope, Revolutionary war enlisted and appointed 1781 time out 1782, now this Thomas Welch of NC did he draw a pensions Roll and dose it give any details about him his enlisted Birth Place if marry name are a single name
hope you can give me some information about both of them nam Thomas Welch Va and NC
Bertha Sweat Ames city Texas

1911 Jan. 17. History to Miss Bertha Sweatt, p. 1911 Mch. 25. George S. Stewart. p 1927. Feb. 26. Christ Bertha Sweatt. W.A. 1931. Oct. 21 - Mrs. Bertha Sweatt advised relative to other Thomas Welch - MMH 3-122.
Rev. Mar.
1733. ✓ INVALID.
File No. 1733 Thomas Welch Miss N. C. L.
Act: June 7, 1832.
Index: — Vol. R, Page 397
[Arrangement of 1870.]

RECORD DIVISION.
Department of the Interior, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Briefed by AB Wikorn Jan. 13. 1911
Claim No. _____
Certificate No. _____
Claimant _____
Soldier Thos. Welch or Welsh
Service Who died in Jackson Co. Tenn
Additional Service Rev
No. _____ claim, State records _____, 191 _____
No claim, combination records _____, 191 _____
REMARKS:
No Sur or Wid on Tenn. Agency except S. 1733.
No Reg. claim at all as above
No Sur. as above
No Wid as above

Ex. RET Div. Record
Department of the Interior, BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
WASHINGTON, D. C., Oct. 5 1926, 19
The attached letter is respectfully returned with the information that the data furnished is not sufficient to enable this Bureau to make intelligent answer to the queries therein contained.
Please fill out such of the blank spaces below as the information in your possession will permit, and return to this Bureau.
✓ No. of claim, _____  ✓ Name of soldier, Thomas Welch  was there in 1790 when we came  P. O. address of claimant, Salisbury  District Rowan Co N.C.  ✓ Company do not know  ✓ Regiment do not know  State where enlisted north Carolina  Date of enlistment do not know  Date of discharge do not know
If unable to furnish company and regiment give names of commanding officers.
Return attached letter with reply.
(Signature) R. W. Morgan Acting Commissioner.

MARVIN JONES 18TH DISTRICT TEXAS
LOTUS ALLEN VAN HUSS SECRETARY
HOME ADDRESS: AMARILLO, TEXAS
CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WASHINGTON, D. C.
19 February 1930
Commissioner, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
My dear Sir:
Enclosed you will find copy of letter received from Miss Bertha Sweatt, of Knox City, Texas, which is self-explanatory.
The Adjutant General's office advises that the records show that one Thomas Welch served as a private in Doherty's Company of North Carolina Troops, Revolutionary War. He is reported on the records of that organization as follows: "Enlisted or appointed, - - 1781; time out, May 25, 1782."
John Welch is shown to have served in the War of 1812 as a sergeant of Captain John McClure's Company of North Carolina Detached Militia from Haywood County, commanded by Lieutenant Elijah Dever. His service commenced February 16, 1815, and ended March 13, 1815.
If you can furnish me any further information for the benefit of my constituent, I shall greatly appreciate your doing so.
Thanking you, I am
Sincerely yours,

Knox City, Texas. February 7, 1930.
Hon. Marvin Jones, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
I am writing you for some information. What I want is to see if you will look up for me. This said man Thomas Welch was born in Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania, in the year of 1749. I want to see if you can find his father's given name. In later years he went to North Carolina in 1776, August 21, he enlisted in that war of 1776. In 1777 he had a wife and one boy. His name was John Welch. This Thomas Welch's father come over from Ireland, a young man, to fight for his freedom, and if you find anything about this Thomas Welch see if you can find his wife's given name, and this Thomas Welch went from Pennsylvania to North Carolina and he lived there from 1776 to 1816 or 1820 then he went to Tennessee. He lived there in White Co., Sparta, Tennessee for 28 years and then moved over in Jackson Co., Gainesboro, Tennessee for two years. There is where he died. I can't find where he married, or who he married, but in 1777 he had a wife and one boy. * * * * *
Yours truly,
(Miss) Bertha Sweat

JAN 13 1911
Knox city tn
Jan 8 1 1911 to the Commissioner of Pensions I dont want to try to get a pension here it is thomas welch drowned a pensioner and he fought in the war 1795 - and died between 1836 or 1840 you can look on the old field and see where he made his last home I wont to no how old he was and did he have to

Give his 2 father names I want to get his age to prove that so I can get his estate that Thomas Welch father left detailed in Ireland I am a hire off Thomas Welch I don't want any pensions simply see if his name is there he died a pension up till he died his granddaughter said he did I am a great grand daughter of Thomas Welch the now if you can find anything I have asked please send this

I will pay 3 you for as your trouble if you can find what I have asked I don't want any pensions at all
See if his name is there he died in Tenn in Jackson Co
hope to hear from you soon
Yours Truly Miss Bertha Sweat Lock Box 149

In reply to your request of _____, received _____ a statement of the military history of Thomas Welch a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau. S. File 1733
   DATE OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Aug. 21, 1776 6 mos. Archibald Fleming James Morrison Charles McDowell N.C.   soon after 3 " Joseph McDowell ✓   some weeks later 3 " Joseph McDowell Joseph McDowell   some after 3 " H. John Davison ✓    Burned the Cherokee Indian towns.
Battles engaged in, ✓
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Lincoln Co., N.C.
Date of application for pension, July 8, 1833. Allowed.
Residence at date of application, White Co., Tenn.
Age at date of application, 64 — 1749 in Lancaster Co., Pa.
Remarks: No recd for date of death — Thomas Welch ct. 19533 received
Sept 20, 1833, at June — Met Tenn. Agency —
In 1777 had wife & 1 child (no names)
Only Thos. Welch found on Tenn. Agency.

October 21, 1931.
Bertha Sweat Knox City, Texas.
BA-J/MSF/ILL
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter of October, 15, relative to Thomas Welch who served in the North Carolina troops and a soldier by that name who served in the Virginia troops, War of the Revolution.
Unless a claim for pension or bounty land has been made to the United States based upon service in that war, this office has no means of furnishing the record of any particular soldier as such claims are the source of information given qst.
A careful search of the records has been made in your behalf and no record found of a Thomas Welch (Welsh, Walsh etc.) who served in the Virginia troops, Revolutionary War, or who applied for pension from that state.
On February 26, 1927, you were furnished the full record of the only Thomas Welch of North Carolina that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this office. On February 21, 1930, you were again advised through Honorable Marvin Jones, that no further information in regard to that soldier is on file in this office.
It is regretted, as stated in letter of February 21, 1930, that this office cannot aid you further in your research.
Very truly yours,
A. D. MILNER, Assistant to Administrator.

October 21, 1931.
Bertha Sweat Knox City, Texas.
BA-J/MSF/ILL
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter of October, 15, relative to Thomas Welch who served in the North Carolina troops and a soldier by that name who served in the Virginia troops, War of the Revolution.
Unless a claim for pension or bounty land has been made to the United States based upon service in that war, this office has no means of furnishing the record of any particular soldier as such claims are the source of information given qst.
A careful search of the records has been made in your behalf and no record found of a Thomas Welch (Welsh, Walsh etc.) who served in the Virginia troops, Revolutionary War, or who applied for pension from that state.
On February 26, 1927, you were furnished the full record of the only Thomas Welch of North Carolina that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this office. On February 21, 1930, you were again advised through Honorable Marvin Jones, that no further information in regard to that soldier is on file in this office.
It is regretted, as stated in letter of February 21, 1930, that this office cannot aid you further in your research.
Very truly yours,
A. D. MILNER, Assistant to Administrator.

Act 44-1812 Fairy Section
m.e.e.
February 21, 1930
Miss Bertha Sweat Knox City Texas
Dear Madam:
I advise you that information relative to the inquiries contained in the enclosed letters from you, has this day been furnished Honorable Marvin Jones in your behalf.
Very truly yours,
EARL D. CHURCH Commissioner
Her letter returned I requesting Shos. Welch. of Pa Service Rev. War John Welch. NC on leave service, was 1812

3-2027
A.W.Y.
FORM NO. 1812 WAR SECTION
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF PENSIONS WASHINGTON
.....October 1, 1928.....
.....Bertha Sweatt, .....Knox City, .....Texas.....
.....Madam:
I have to advise you that the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau fail to afford any information in regard to ..any Richard Welsh, all spellings of the name searched.....
.....On February 26, 1927, you were furnished the history of Thomas Welsh (S. 1733) who was born in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.....
.....Due to the very large number of inquiries similar to yours and the lack of a clerical force available for the purpose, the history of a soldier of the Revolution is furnished only once to each person.....
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner.