Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11803, John Williams, Mass.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Mass.
Williams, John
S 11803
CONTENTS
carded

2710
New York
John Williams
of Lyme in the State of New York who was a Private in the Comp y commanded by Captain Williams of the Reg t commanded by Col (May) in the Massachusetts line for 12 months
Increased from $25 21 /100 to $40
July 5. 1833
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 40 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 5 th day of July 1833 and sent J O'Leary Jacket Harbor N.Y.
Arrears to the 4th of Mar 33 $80 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sep 33 20
$100.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Jno Brownell Clerk,
12 Vol. 5 Page 205

Letter to Adrain & Eliz to J. W. Chitt 7 Nov. 1838
do. How. J. H. Bronson, Apr 3:39
do. A. Ely, Sep 12:39
do. Penn, Agt. do - do
Jefferson Co.

S. Williams 3/- 10,581.
found on final Settlement admitted 7 mo. 18 days

State of New York County of Jefferson }
On this 11 th day of September 1832 personally appeared before the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Jefferson John Williams a resident of the Town of Symmes in the County of Jefferson and State of New York aged Sixty Six years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision of the Act of Congress passed June 7. 1832
That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year 1782 and served in the 1 st Company in the 5 th Regiment of the Massachusetts Line, under the following named officers,
That he served in the Company commanded by Captain Joseph Williams in Colonel Greysons Regiment, that he enlisted on the 2 nd day of September in the year 1782 aforesaid for three years and that he remained and faithfully served in the Service of the United States until the 1 st day of January in the year 1784, on which day he was discharged by a Colonel Meadwell, that he received an honorable discharge, that at the time he enlisted he resided in the Town of Williamsburgh in the State of Massa- chusetts, from thence went to Springfield in the State aforesaid, where he was first mustered and drawn lots at which place he remained about two weeks, from thence went to Ver Plank Point in the State of New York where he joined the Army and remained there about one month, from thence went to Newburgh in the State

State aforesaid to winter quarters where he remained until the month of June in the year 1783, thinks that the "dying Warren" was discharged in the month of June aforesaid, and this deponent further says that from Newburgh he went to West Point where he remained till into July order was then received for the troops stationed at this place to march to Philadelphia to guard Congress and that he remained at the place last aforesaid until into October that he with the rest of the troops then returned to West Point where he remained until discharged as aforesaid on the first day of January in the year 1784 This deponent further states that the discharge received from Colonel Mearswell he did not preserve
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatsoever to a Pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any State
Sworn to and subscribed this day & year aforesaid P. Burroughs Clerk
John Williams
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion that the above named applicant was a revolutionary

Entered, and Entered as the States. _____
I Peleg Burchard Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Williams for a Pension, _____
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office this 11 th day of September 1832. P. Burchard Clerk

10581
John Williams
Not on rolls
See final settling
3 Sept 82 to 11. apr 83
6.14
1 26 11 7. 37
admitted
7. Mo 19
597 23.31 2 1.70 $25.01
John O. Dickey
Packett's Harbour Jefferson Co. New York
7.2) 7 | 25.02 12.51 37.5

John Williams 1 st
Dr 622 89 Cr 60 6 87
Paid to T. May 1783 1783
No Confined 610 39
3

10,581
BRIEF in the case of  John Williams - Lymn Co. of Jefferson in the State of New York (Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 66 years
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     3 rd September In 17 82 till 1 Jan 9 1784 private Gen.  Cap. J. Williams, Col. Greystone, Col. Maxwell.   Greystone - the 3 rd Regt   
5. In what battles was he engaged?
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Williamsburgh, Mass.
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? (none)
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
W. Fawcett Examining Clerk.

Sir
Sackets Harbor N. Y. June 27, 1833.
Your letter of the 21 st Inst was recd - And agreeable to your direction I send you herewith Enclosed the Pension Certificate of Mr. John Williams for an additional allowance.
Mr. Williams declaration set forth that he served sixteen months which @ $80 per mo. would entitle him to a Cert. of $1280.00. Mr. Williams has not yet drawn on the Enclosed Certificate consequently the new Certificate should bear date the same as the Enclosed. Allow me to hear from you as soon as convenient.
And oblige Sir Very Resp t ly
John D. Dake
To the Hon James Sedgwick Comm r of Pensions Washington D.C.

Watertown June 18. 1832
Sir.
The 6 th Sept. last I inclosed the affidavit of John Williams (with his Certificate of $40) in which he stated that he had served 16 Mos & was not all owed the pension to which he was entitled. On the 7 th Nov you informed me that John Williams with an addition to his name was found to have served until the 1 st May 1783 & M o 27 says & under that he made a satisfactory explanation is agreed to his name even that sum could not again be allowed him.
In your letter to the Hon. Mr. Brownson when you gave the old man's history of his service you say that the only John Williams on the final settlement was designated 1 st which could hardly apply to so young a man & that if his claim was well founded he was entitled to a pension under the act of 18 March 1818 & that he did not apply. You also said that it is understood the town records of Massachusetts show the service of the 3 years men after 80 th . I herewith send you the letter of the town Clerk of Springfield by which it appears the records of that town do not contain any enlistments. I also send you the affidavit of John Stephenson who was for short period previous to his discharge June 83 a member of the same Company of John Williams, who says that a man by the name of Williams apparently about 20 years old of slender make and round shoulders was still a member of Capt. Joseph Williams Company.

Col. Greville Doyl when he Stephenson with those of that Company who had enlisted for during the war was discharged which was on the 11 th day of June 1783. You say John Williams served until the 1 st day of May 1783. But unless Stephenson is mistaken there was a man by the name of Williams in the Company 11 June 1783 -
John Williams the applicant is in form and appearance just such a person as is described by Stephenson. What he was when young I cannot say, he was somewhat younger than Stephenson would make him at that time. In regard to the Law of 1818 & the allegation that he made no application, that point shall be satisfactorily explained if considered necessary As it will prove of any benefit to the old man I will send you abundant testimony in favor of his good moral character.
I beg to call your attention once more to the history of Williams's service and in doing it permit me to say that I will not advocate the claim of any man to a pension unless fully prosecuted he is entitled to it. I believe the old man's story and if you could hear him relate his story as I have with tears flowing from eyes the furrows in the venerable old man's cheeks I am quite certain that with the affidavits of Stephenson before you you would admit his claim for the 16 months - His history follows

John Williams enlisted at Springfield 1 st Feb. 1782 for three years, in Capt. Joseph Williams's Company Col. Green's Regt joined his Regt at Bennington's point, in the falls March to New Windsor, where the regt contracted huts for winter quarters and there he wintered; that in June 1783 the during war's men were discharged; that then the remaining Regts were consolidated into three Regts, and he with the rest of the troops were marched to Phil- adelphia to protect the Congress then threatened by an organized body of soldiers; that he on reaching Philadelphia was attacked with the measles and with many others was placed in a hospital near Philadelphia; that he soon recovered and was detained there for some time to nurse the sick & was finally ordered to West Point & then discharged 1 st Jan'y 1784 — This is his story and if it is not true I do not know nor can I imagine how a man of his limited information should have been able to have made one so much like the truth. It is true that Genl Washington ordered a body of men to protect the Congress at Philadelphia at the time he says and if he was one of those soldiers then he must have served after May 1783 & been left in the Company when Stevenson left it June 11. 1783
Very Respectfully Yr ob. Servt Admiral Eddy
J. L. Edwards Esq Clerk of Penns

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James J. Edwards Esq. Comm r of Pensions Washington D.C.

James S Edwards Esqr.
Shetels Harbor New York. Monday June 17. 1833.
Sir
27/10.
I have written you several times on the subject of John Williams and Pinson, and have not as yet recd. any answer from you, and as I have not recd. an answer, I presume my letters were not recd. by you or have been mislaid.
I now take the liberty of addressing you again on the subject hoping in due time to receive an answer.
The facts and circumstances in relation to Mr. Williams Pension are these. He set forth in his Declaration made Sept. 11. 1832 that he Enlisted for three years - On the 3 rd day of Sept. 17. 82 and that he was discharged after having served sixteen months and that he served in the 1 st Comp. in the 3 rd Mass s Regt. under Col t Greyson. - In Dec r . last I recd. from you a Certificate of Pension bearing date 11 th Dec r . 1832 for 25 20 /per annum. - You will readily see that the Certificate does not correspond with the Declaration and, as you did not state the reasons for not granting the Certificate for the length of time stated in the Declaration, I have not been in the possession of the facts in relation to the decision. - Agreeable to the declaration the Certificate should have been for $53 33 /per annum instead of $25 20 /per annum.
Mr. Williams is again asked and informed and if his declaration was correct, should have recd. a certificate for the full amount - he has not yet drawn his pension nor does not intend to do until I can hear from you and have the question settled whether he is entitled to an increase or not - Mr. Williams Certificate has not been out of my possession since it was recd. And should you ascertain from an Examination of his declaration and the Rolls, that he is entitled to an increase I will forward the original Certificate and the necessary and satisfactory proofs that he has not drawn any pay on the aforesaid Certificate. I also requested you to return to me the declaration of John P. Becker which has been rejected and is on file in your Office which if not contrary to the regulations of the Dept t . I hope to receive from you. Also have the goodness to inform me if the name of James Wheeler is on the Roll of the N. H. Troops and if so how long he was in the Service agreeable to the Roll, aforesaid.
Excuse the liberty I have taken
As a favor from the Respt d Yr obed. Servt.
John P. Dickey

Payments to be made at New York by the Presd U S Br Bank Agent for paying Pension- ers, in the Agency of
New York
Canceled and one issued for 12 mo: $40.
Recorded by Ino. Cromwell Clerk, in Book D Vol. 5. page 205

WAR DEPARTMENT.
Revolutionary Claim.
I certify that in conformity with the Law of the United States, of the 7th June, 1832, John Williams _____ of the State _____ of New York _____ who was a Private in the Revolutionary Army _____ is entitled to receive Twenty-five _____ dollars and Twenty-one cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually, on the 4th of March, and 4th of September, in every year.
Given at the War Office of the United States, this 4 th day of December one thousand eight hundred and thirty-two.
Isaac P. Isaac P. Secretary of War.
Examined and } Countersigned. }
J. N. Edwards

Ho: of Reps.
Feby 28 th 1839.
Sir
I enclose you a letter which I have this moment rec d . from my friend Mr. Daniel Ely of Watertown N.Y. in relation to the pension case of John Williams a Rev d . Sold t . to which I desire to call your attention and to request that you will cause the examinations to be made which Mr. Ely desires, and let me know the result,
Please to return Mr. Ely's letter to me
Very Respectfully,
Yours &c
J. A. Bronson
To
J. L. Edwards Esq

Springfield Apr 15, 1839
Sir
Your letter respecting the enlistment of John Williams was duly rec d . - The Town Records of this Town do not show any enlistment whatever and I have not the means of answering your enquiries.
Whether that information is to be had here I know not - perhaps some person in Capt Williams Company may be acquainted with the circumstances. I believe there are one or more such persons residing here or in the neighborhood. If you should wish to make further enquiries I will refer you to Henry Morris Esq of this town as one most likely to get any information.
Yours Respectfully Richd. Bliss Town Clerk of H.

Watertown Sept. 6 1838
Sir I enclose the affidavit of John Williams a pensioner under the act of June 7. 1832 in which he states that his pension is less than it ought to be & he prays that his case may be examined
Yours obedt Servt.
Adair Ely
J. L. Edwards Esq. Living Pensioner

I John Stephenson of Springfield in the County of Hamp- den & Commonwealth of Massachusetts aged eighty years depose and say that I am a pensioner under the Act of Congress passed March 18. 1818 - That I served in the company of Capt Joseph Williams in Col Greatons regiment from about the last of 1780 or the beginning of 1781 until my final discharge at the close of the war - that I well remem- ber, that there was in the same company a young man, then, as I should judge, about 20 years of age, whose name was Williams. His Christian name, as I am quite confident was John. Of his surname, I am certain. According to my recollection of him, he was then a rather slender young man and somewhat round shouldered.
I cannot tell when he joined the company, but remember that he served a considerable period and was a member of the company when I was discharged, with the others who had enlisted to serve during the war, on the 11 th day of June 1783. And further say not
I should judge that said Williams was a member of the same company with myself nearly, if not quite a year, but cannot state the time precisely -
John Stephenson
Commonwealth of Massachusetts Hampden County 3 rd June 7. 1839. Then personally John Stephenson abovenamed, who is a credible witness, and made oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit by him subscribed. before me
Henry Morris Justice of the Peace

Commonwealth of Massachusetts County of Hampshire ss.
I Justin Willard Clerk of the Probate Court within & for said County do hereby certify that the copy of the deposition of John Stephenson was made & sworn to is a portion of the Probate within said County and that his signature subscribed to the same is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at Springfield this seventh day of June A.D. 1839
Justin Willard

John Williams
viennese piano
Adams Ely
Watkins
Mr. Fish
G. Fish

In the Matter of John Williams Applicant for the pension of Pension on State of New York Jefferson County
On this 5 th day of September 1838 personally appeared before the Subscriber a Notary of Public Notary of Public in and for the County of Jefferson State of New York John Williams of Lyons in the County of Onondaga who first being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath say that he a private in the Revolutionary Army that he served in the Continental Line of the Army from Sept 3 rd 1782 to the first day of January 1784. a period of sixteen Months, lacking three days - That he made application and rec d a Certificate of Forty Dollars. That there must be, in the belief of this deponent some mistake either in the making of his declaration or in the amount allowed to him - That he en- listed on the third day of September 1782 into the company of Capt Joseph Williams Colonel Graton Regiment as it was called, it may be Drayton, in the Maple Shanty Line in the Continental Service - That he served faithfully until the first day of January Seventeen hundred and eighty four and was discharged at West Point - He prays that his case may be reconsidered & his pension increased to an allowance for the whole time of his service sworn to & subscribed on the day & year above written before me The words
John Williams "Notary of Public" was first interlined - Testimony whereof have hereunto set my hand & affixed my seal of office William Wood at Watertown the day & year above written William Wood Notary Public

at to John V. Dickey June 21. 1833.
2710
New York
John Williams. of Lyme in the State of New York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Williams of the Reg t commanded by Col. Maxwell in the Massachusetts line for 7 months 17 days
by act of last session duration of the war extended to 3 d Sept '89
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 25 Dollars 21 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4 th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 4 day of Decem- ber 1832 and sent to J C Hickey Sackets Harbor
Arrears to 4 th of Sept 1832 $37.81 3/4 Pension allowance ending 4 th Mar '33 12.60 3/4 50.42
Adm D
12 mo pri { Revolutionary Claim, } { Nov June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by John Crimwell Clerk. Book D Vol. 5 Page 205

Rev. May
11.803 INVALID.
File No. 11.803
John Williams Dis. Rev. War
Act: June 17 th 32
Index: —Vol. A , Page 411
[Arrangement of 1870.]