Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 16,768, John Van Wie, New York

SERVICE
New York
Van Wie, John Alida
NUMBER
W 16.768
CONTENTS

Albany 740
Alida Van Wie
widow of John Van Wie
who died on the 14. April 1797 at Albany in the State of New York who was a Lieut d Capt n . in the _____ commanded by Captain _____ of the Regt t : commanded by Col. Duane in the N. York line for 2 months Lieut. — 26. 66 5 " 95 days Capt n . 103. 33 N.Y. $130.00
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 130 Dollars — Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 12 th day of April 1837 and sent to Samuel Jenkins, Albany, N.Y.
Arrears to the 4th of March 37. 780.00 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 th Apr. " 65.00 $845.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, { Act July 4, 1836, { Section the 3 — }

State of New York
Albany County ss.
On this 19 th day of October in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty six, personally appeared before the Justice's Court of the City of Albany, (the same being a Court of Record) Alida Van Wie a resident of the Town of Bethlehem in the County of Albany, and State aforesaid, aged eighty four years on the 27 th day of October last past, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed July 4. 1836: That she is the Widow of John Van Wie who was a Captain in the Regiment of Militia of the State of New York, commanded by Colonel John Van Rensselaer, in the year 1778 and subsequently, and served as such Captain and in other offices during the Revolutionary War, in the military service of the United States, as will more fully appear by the documents and testimony of witnesses whose depositions are hereto annexed -
She further declares that she was married to the said John Van Wie in the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy one, or the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy two. That her Husband the aforesaid John Van Wie died on the 14 th day of April in the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety seven, and that she has remained a Widow ever since that period, as will more fully appear by reference to the proof hereto annexed.
She further declares that she has no record of the time of her marriage - but remembers that she was married in the twentieth year of her age. That she has

has twelve children by her said Husband - of whom  six six are now living - and that her oldest child, Eliza Lana Hallenbeck is now upwards of sixty years of age - and that she is unable to write her name - I therefore make her mark and subscribed in open Court, this 19 th day of October 1836 } mark for her signature Alida her Van Die mark The word "him" used - J. G. Watson Clerk
State of New York Albany County } ss. Nancy Van Die of the City of Albany, being duly sworn, according to law, deposes - That she is seventy years of age, and is the Widow of Cornelius Van Die, deceased, who was the Brother of the above named Alida Van Die - That she this deponent was married to the said Cornelius in February 1786 - That she was acquainted with the said Alida Van Die about three years previous to her (this deponent's) marriage - and that the said Alida was then the wife of Captain John Van Die, and had four children - That the said John Van Die died in the year 1797, and that the said Alida has since since his death, remained, and now is a Widow - and I now and subscribed, in open Court, } deponent is unable to write her name this 19 th day of October 1836 - } for want of education J. G. Watson Clerk Nancy her Van Die mark

State of New York
Albany County I do. Peter G. Van Wic of the Town of Bethlehem in said County, being duly sworn, according to law, doth depose and say, that he is fifty five years of age - That he is well acquainted with Alida Van Wic, the Widow of Captain John Van Wic deceased - That the said Alida was, this Deponent's father's sister - & her maiden name was Van Wic - That she & her Husband were second Cousins, as this Deponent has understood & believes.
That he this Deponent remembers the said John & Alida as Husband & Wife, at least forty five years ago - and that from this Deponent's knowledge of the family, he has no doubt that they the said John & Alida were married more than sixty years ago - That he was formerly well acquainted with their oldest child, Laura, (now Mrs. Mullenbach) who is now as this Deponent believes, upwards of sixty years of age, if still living.
That said Laura resided in the State of Ohio, when this Deponent last heard of her - and he has no doubt that she was a legitimate child of the said John & Alida, never having heard any intimation whatever to the contrary - That said John Van Wic has been dead about forty years, & said Alida has since remained & now is his Widow -
Sworn to & subscribed this 26 th day of November 1836 before me
Peter G Van Wic
L. Jenkins Com t of Deeds
I certify that the above named Peter G. Van Wic is a credible Witness -
L. Jenkins Com t of Deeds -

State of New York
Albany County } ss. James Alexander of the Town of Bethlehem in said County, being duly sworn, deponeth as follows, viz.
I am sixty nine years of age (supposed) - I was well ac- quainted with Capt. John Van Urie in his life time , and am well acquainted with his Widow, Alida Van Urie - I first became acquainted with them some time in the year 1780, at which time they were living together as Husband & Wife, and reputed so to be - I well recollect that they had a daughter, named Luna, and remember having attended a dance or frolic, with her, I think at the house of one Garret Van Urie, in said Town of Bethlehem - This was in about the year 1784, or 1785, at which time, I believe, she was about fourteen or fifteen years old -
Sworn to and subscribed this 9 th day of December 1836 before me - James Alexander
Samuel Van Riper Comt. of Deeds.
I certify that I am acquainted with the above named James Alexander & that he is a credible Witness - S. Van Riper Comt. of Deeds.

State of New York
Albany County ss. Henry G. Van Brie of the Town of Bethlehem in said County, being duly sworn, deponeth as follows, Viz:
I was seventy one years of age on the 18 th of May last. I have always resided in the County of Albany - I was born in the City of Albany - I was well acquainted with Capt. John Van Brie, formerly of Bethlehem deceased, now deceased. He has been dead about forty years - I am also well acquainted with Alida Van Brie his Widow - She is my father's sister - I know them as Husband & Wife before the commencement of the Revolutionary War - They lived together as such from reputed so to be, up to the time of his death - I was formerly well acquainted with their daughter, Sarah, who was their oldest child, & who is now, if living, upwards of sixty years of age - She married one Jacob Hallenbeck, & some years ago, removed, as I was informed to the State of Ohio - I do not know whether she is now living or not - Owing to the effects of the rheumatism, I am not able to write my name.
Sworn to & subscribed (by making his mark) this 9 th day of December 1836 before me - L. Jan Ruis Com t of Deeds
The words "said John & Alida" introduced above, before being sworn to - L. Jan Ruis Com t of Deeds. I certify that I am acquainted with the above named Henry G. Van Brie, and that he is a credible Witness. L. Jan Ruis Com t of Deeds -
City and County of Albany ss. I, Samuel A. Van Eyck Clerk of the said City and County do hereby certify that Samuel Perkins Esq. before whom each of the three foregoing affidavits were subscribed and sworn, and whose name is subscribed to each of the three foregoing certificates of credibility of witnesses was on the day of the date of the same one of the Commissioners of Deeds &c. in and for said County and that his name subscribed to each is his proper hand writing and signature. Given under my hand and the seal of the said County this 9 th day of December 1836. C. A. Van Eyck Clerk

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
11.7.16768
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C., _____, 190_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of John Van Wie a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Oct. 20 1775 ✓ 2nd Lieut. Albany Co. militia N.Y.   1777 3 mos. Capt Vanderburgh N.Y.   Apr. 14, 1778 3 mos. " John Van Rensselaer        
Battles engaged in, Taking of Burgoyne Residence of soldier at enlistment, Bethlehem, Albany Co. N.Y. Date of application for pension, Oct. 19, 1836. Her ch. was sl. Residence at date of application, Bethlehem, Albany Co. N.Y. Age at date of application, She was b. Oct. 27, 1757
1836-24 1757
Remarks: Soldier married in 1771 or 1772. His second cousin Alida Van Wie, and died Apr. 14, 1797. There were twelve children. Six were alive in 1836. Lena, wife of Jacob Hallebeek, the oldest child was 60 years old in 1836. No other names are stated. Brother Isaac.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.

Albany Alida Van Pric widow of John Suy?
See letter to Samuel Jenkins
12. Nov. 1838
same Apr. 1837
Adm d 5 mo 15 ds. Capt.
2 mo - Lieut.
Samuel Jenkins, Albany N.York.

Re WIDOW, &c.
File No. 16768
Alida Van Wie Widow of John Van Wie Capt Rev War
Act July 4 th 86
Index: Vol. IV , Page 296
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1912 Aug. 3 pm E. Mosher History sent him. V.L.M. 1913 Mar. 10 Hist. to Mrs. C. E. (Emma) Haight. V.L.M.
1915. Aug 16: History to Mr. R.W. Swetland. 9M-13.H
1915, Aug 23 - History Mr. Swetland advised this the only John Van Wie. mmh

Albany December 9. 1836.
James L. Edwards Esq. Commission of Pensions, Sir,
I enclose three affidavits containing additional evidence of the marriage of Alida, Widow of John Van Wie - It is the best testimony I have been able to obtain on the subject & I think it very satisfactorily establishes the fact of her marriage prior to the Revolutionary War -
Very Respectfully
(Your Ob t Serv t ) L. Jen Kining.

Apr. 11
Special alcohol for love
Mrs. J. Edward Lewis Barnesville, Pennsylvania near Lehigh Furnace City of Washington.

Albany April 5. 1837.
James L. Edwards Esquire, Commissioner of Pensions,
Sir, Your letter of the 1 st inst. respecting the case of Mrs. Alida Van Vrie is received - A certificate for the allowance therein stated will be accepted, as it is not in her power at present to make further proof of the services of her Husband - But should she be able hereafter to do so, I presume there can be no objection to her applying for an increase of pension - I am, Sir,
with great respect Your Ob t Serv t Samuel Jenkins.

Nov 5
Alida Van Vorst Alida Van Vorst Adelphi N.Y.
James G. Blake Esq. Chairman of Finance The Deane French City of Washington

Albany Nov. 1. 1836.
James L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions, Sir,
Some days ago I transmitted to you the declaration &c. in the case of Abida Widow of John Van Brie - Through inattention I omitted to send the enclosed affidavit of John D. Abine, in support of her claim - Be pleased to annex it to the other papers in that case.
I am, Sir, with great respect,
Your ob t Servt.
Samuel Jenkins

Albany October 28. 1836.
James L. Edmunds Esquire, Commissioner of Pensions,
Sir,
I enclose the declaration and proofs in the case of Alida, Widow of John Van Klief, for her application for a Pension under the Act of July 4. 1836.
I am, Sir, with great respect
Your obedt. Servt.
Samuel Jenkins.

M. B. H-
Rev. War Section.
August 23, 1915.
Mr. R. W. Sweetland, Headmaster. The Peddie Institute, Hightstown, N. J.
Sir:
In response to your letter dated the 18" instant, you are advised that John Van Wie. W. File No. 16,768, Rev. War, whose history was furnished you under date of August 16, 1915, is the only John Van Wie found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau.
Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.

NZ-1 Rev. see
THE PEDDIE INSTITUTE HIGHTSTOWN, N. J. HEADMASTER'S STUDY
August eleventh 1915
Dear Sirs:
Will you please send me the Revolutionary Military War record of one John Van Wie who was, according to local history, appointed second lieutenant of the fourth company of the first Rensselaerwyck battalion, New York, October 20, 1775 and, owing to some irregularity in the original appointment of officers for that battalion, was reappointed February 20, 1776. It is also noted that he was later appointed captain in the third Albany regiment under Colonel Philip Schuyler.
In your reply please give any additional information you may have on file regarding Mr. Van Wie himself or his family relationship.
Very truly yours,
R. W. Luctland Headmaster.
Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
RWS/S

THE PEDDIE INSTITUTE HIGHTSTOWN, N. J. HEADMASTER'S STUDY
Rev Sec H.
August eighteenth 1915
Dear Sirs:
This owns your sixteenth of August report on the military history of Johnn Van Wie, a soldier of the Revolutionary War. Thank you for your attention.
In reply, however, I beg to say that the Johnn Van Wie whose record you give is quite evidently not the Johnn Van Wie whose record I am seeking. It appears from local history of Albany County that there were two John Van Wies, both of whom served in Albany County regiments and both of whom received the rank of lieutenant and later of captain.
One of these, John A. Van Wie, appears to be the one whose record you give. This particular John is said to have been first lieutenant in the Fifth Regiment, 3rd Rensselaer battalion, and appointed captain of the same regiment April 4, 1778 under Colonel Quackenbos.
The other Johnn Van Wie about whom I wrote August 11, is said to have been second lieutenant of the 4th company, 1st Rensselaerwick battalion, appointed October 20, 1775, reappointed February 20, 1776, and later appointed captain of the 3rd Albany regiment under Colonel Philip Schuyler. This particular Johnn Van Wie married Agnes Winne, who was born March 1763 and died at Paletine, December 11, 1893. His son, John, married Susanna Nare.
Please advise if you can give any information regarding the second Johnn Van Wie described above.
Very truly yours,
R. W. Shuttland
Headmaster.
✓ Bureau of Pensions, Revolutionary Section, Washington, D. C.
RWS/S

Montclair N.J.
Feb. 24. 1913
Dear Sir:—
Will you kindly send me the military record of John A. van Wie who served as Lieutenant in Col. G. van den Berg's Regiment of Albany County Militia in 1777: he also served as Captain in Col. John Duackenbos'

Regiment - in 1778.
He married Alida Van Wic, (His third cousin) in 1771. He died in 1797.
I thank you for your kindness.
Respectfully Yours [Mrs. C. E.] Emma Haight; Upper Montclair, New Jersey. 247 Christopher St.

Mechanicville, N. Y.,
July 27, 1912.
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
I am endeavoring to obtain the military record of my ancestor, John Van Wie, who served in the Revolutionary War. As there were several John Van Wies in the Revolution from Albany County, New York, the Adjutant General has referred me to you for assistance in determining which is the one in question. I know that this John Van Wie came from Albany County, N.Y. ; that his widow drew a pension on his account; and I am fairly certain that he was in the escort which took Burgoyne to Albany after the surrender, so that he must have been in the service in October, 1777. I would like to know his full name, his widow's first name, and his record of service. I am fairly certain also that he held a commission .
I would also like to know the record and full name of a Henry Van Wie, who served in the War of 1812, coming from Albany County, N.Y. I know that his widow, Chloe Van Wie , drew a pension on his account. I learn from the Adjutant General that there was a Henry A. and a Henry V. Van Wie, both from Albany County, and am hoping the matter of the pension may prove which is the man in question.
Thanking you in advance for your kindness in the matter,
I remain
Yours very truly,
Wm Earl Mosher
Box 704.

State of New York Albany County - ss. John D. Brice of the Town of Bethlehem, in said County, being duly sworn, saith, that he is a Pensioner of the United States, and is seventy seven years of age and upwards. That he this Deponent was well acquainted with John Van Alie, formerly of Bethlehem, now deceased. That said John Van Alie was a Captain of Militia and served as such in the Revolutionary War - that he belonged to Col. Van Rensselaer's Regiment of New York Militia. This deponent recollects that said Van Alie was in the service in the year 1776 at Saratoga - and also at Schoharie in the year that Schoharie Village was burnt - This Deponent was a private & served in said Van Alie's Company, at the time last referred to, at the Stone Church in Schoharie - Deponent thinks it was in the year 1779 - Does not recollect how long he served at that time - Col. Van Rensselaer, & Barent I. Stuyvesant Lieut. Col. were the commanding officers on that occasion - Deponent thinks Dennis Van Dalsdyk was his Lieutenant - Deponent saw Captain Van Alie in the service at several times & places, during the Revolutionary War, & knows that he was frequently called into the service with his Company, but is not able to state particularly how long he served - Deponent belonged generally to Capt. William Brice's Company of Militia, but was frequently called out & served in other Companies -
Sworn and subscribed this 24 th day of October 1856
JOHN BRICE
in open Court
J. G. Watson Clerk
I certify that John D. Brice above named is a credible witness - By the Court J. G. Watson Clerk

No. 469.
3-sec.
In the matter of the application of Alida Widow of John Van Wie for a Pension under the Act of July 4, 1836.
Declaration etc.
N.Y.
Schuyler
 Captain 5 mo 25 days  Lieut Enr 1812 1812 20. 35  " 7.5 20 35  " 20. 35  1779 20. 35  1780 20. 35  " 31. 14  " 12 72  " 17. 27   162. 88  43. 31   $208 19- 

State of New York Albany County, ss
34 say 1 Jacob Suter of the town of Bern in said County being duly sworn clothed upon & say, That he is now a revolutionary pensioner of the United States That he was during the Revolutionary war well acquainted with Captain John Van-Wie that he this deponent served in the company of the said Capt. John Van-Wie & under his command about three months at the taking of Burgoyne in 1777. That Capt. Van-Wie was as this deponent understood at the time & has always believed in the service during the aforesaid period That afterwards in 1778 This deponent was under the command of Capt. John Van-Wie attached to Schobell's for the defense of that place That they remained in the service at that time for about three months That this deponent was at the time a neighbor of Capt. Van-Wie both then residing in the town of Bethlehem in the County aforesaid That the deponent was during both campaigns a drummer in Capt. Van Wie's company & for a considerable portion of the time slept & marched with his captain that he is positive that Capt. Van-Wie in marching John Van Wie served at least three months in 1777 & three months in 1778 - he also knows that he served on fatigue & scouting parties at other times but does not recollect for how long a period that he is acquainted with Abigail Van-Wie & that he knows she is the widow of the aforesaid Captain John Van-Wie Jacob his Suter mark Sworn & subscribed before me this 21st day of October 1836-
Albert Gallup Commissioner of Deeds I Certify that I have been for the last thirty years well acquainted with Jacob Suter the above deponent & that he is a man of good character & of truth & veracity
Albert Gallup -

State of New York Secretary's Office
I certify that it appears by the Records in this Office that on the 20 th of Oct 1775 John Van Wee was appointed Second Lieu t of a Company of Militia in the District of Rensselaerwyck in the County of Albany; And
That on the day of April 1778 John Van Wee was appointed Captain of a Company in the Regiment of Militia the said County of Albany commanded by Colo. Henry Duckenbops.
Arch d Campbell Dep t Secre
Albany Oct. 24. 1836

New-York } Albany Justice of Court } ss. I certify that the within named Nancy Van Vliet is known to the Court, and is a credible Witness -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name & affixed the Seal of the said Court, this 19 th Day of October 1836.
J. G. Watson Clerk
State of New-York
Albany County } ss. Isaac Van Vliet of the City of Albany , Town of Bethlehem in the County of Albany, being duly sworn, says, that Captain John Van Vliet, the person mentioned in the annexed declaration of Alida Van Vliet, his Widow, was a brother of this Deponent; that said John Van Vliet has been dead, nearly forty years - That this Deponent is eighty one years of age & upwards - That the said John Van Vliet and Alida Van Vliet were married some years before the beginning of the Revolutionary War - Deponent was present at the marriage, - but being then a boy, this Deponent does not recollect the year or month - Nor who performed the ceremony - This Deponent further states, that he knows that his brother, the said John Van Vliet, served as a captain of Militia during the Revolutionary War, at the following places, viz - at Schoharie, Kaaterskill, Fort Hunter, Saratoga - Stillwater & Bemus Heights - But this Deponent, from old age & defective memory, is unable to state in what years, or for what period, the said John Van Vliet served - That on several tours of duty this De- ponent was with his said Brother & served under him as a sergeant in said Company -
Sworn and subscribed this 22 nd Day of October 1836 in open Court
J. G. Watson Clerk
Isaac Van Vliet

State of New York } Albany Justices Court } ss. I certify that the within named Grace Van Alstyne is known to the Court, and is a credible Witness - Witness my hand & the seal of the Court, this 22 d day of October 1836.
J. G. Wapson Clerk