Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 32,589, John White, Conn.

SERVICE
Conn.
White, John
NUMBER
S. 32.589
CONTENTS

Illinois 22. 157.
John White 2nd of Dubuque in the State of Illinois who was a Private in the Co. commanded by Captain Robertson of the Rgt. commanded by Col. Spencer in the Corvett. t. time for 18 mo.
Inscribed on the Roll of Missouri. at the rate of 60 Dollars 00 Cents per annum. to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 5th day of Nov. 1833 and sent to Miriam Bell. M c Carnel. Malush O. W. Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1833 - 150. Semi-ant. allowance ending Mar 31 - 30.
$ 180.
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by J. R. Palmer Clerk, Book Vol. 8 Page 64.
Dead.
Died Sept. 2, 1834. (agents letter within)
Let to Pen. & Agt, Mar 22, 183

State of Illinois } Wabash County } On this Fourteenth day of September A.D. 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Honorable William Wilson judge of the circuit court of said County, now sitting John White a resident of said County, age 72 years years, Agrees seventy one years on the seventh day of May last, who first being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following oath declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed the seventh day of June A.D. 1832
I am a native of Connecticut, I was born in the Town of Stafford in the County of Tolland in the year 1761. I have a record of my age at my place of residence, In 1776. I was sub- stituted for Samuel Turner for the term of three months. In 1777. I enlisted for the term of six months, was stationed at Granton and assisted in building the fort. The regiment I belonged to marched to Rhode Island under Genl Spencer, then returned to Granton from there to Louse Neck and received my discharge from Capt Roberson. In 1778. I enlisted for twelve months and marched to West Point, and then enlisted the next time for six months, during which time I was taken sick and returned home on a furlough Genl Spencer, Capt Roberson, Lieut Alcott & Capt Worshman are all the officers that I at present recollect. My residence has been in Connecticut New York Mass- and Ohio until the last

Sixteen years which time I have spent in the State of Missouri.
I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except at present and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
J. S. WHITE
We Benjamin Payton George M. Higgins residing in the county & state aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John White who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy one years of age; that he is reputed and believed to be in the neighborhood, where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and we concur in that opinion.
Benjamin Payton
George M. Higgins
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Hiram Bell Clk
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories presented by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and several as he states. And the court further certifies that it appears that Benjamin Payton and George M. Higgins who have signed the preceding certificate are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit.
M c WILLIAMS
I Hiram Bell clerk of the Moberly Circuit Court do hereby certify that the foregoing

Contains the original proceedings in the matter of the application of John White for a pension, in testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand seal of office, this 14 th day of September AD 1832
Adrian Bell Clerk
State of Illinois
Wabash County
Personally appeared before me the undersigned in Justice of the peace in and for said County, the above named John White, who being duly sworn deposes, and says, that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the period mentioned below, as a private in a substitute for three months, and I enlisted and served six months when stationed at Granton, I then enlisted for twelve months, and served three months of the time, when I was taken sick and returned home, on a furlough, I next enlisted for six months, and served six months, or was taken sick in three months, returned home, and served the term of twelve months above stated, on the first enlistment which I cannot now precisely recollect, and for which services I claim a pension,
And this deponent further says, the reason that he did not get a Clingmans affidavit, there was none in attendance at Court from his immediate neighborhood. And that he has no documentary evidence of his services and knows of no person by whom he can prove his services.
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 35 th day of April 1833 George W. Higgins
John White

State of Illinois } Wabash County } ss. I Miram Bell Clerk of the County Commission ers, County of said County do certify that George M. Higgings Esq., before whom the above and foregoing Affidavit was, made, was then and now is an acting Justice of the peace in and for said County duly Commissioned and qualified according to law,
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County at Mount Carmel this 27 th day of April 1833, Miram Bell Clerk
State of Illinois } Wabash County }
Application for a Pension
12073 John White
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of Peace in and for said County, the above named John White who being duly sworn deposeth and says, That on account of old age and loss of memory he cannot precisely recollect whether it was on his tower of six or twelve months service he was taken sick and returned home, he is willing that a pension should be allowed him for the following period (to wit) first three months as a substitute second Enlisted & served six months third six months and fourth three months Making in all Eighteen months and he is positive that he served not less than the above periods for which he claims a pension, and further that he knows of no person by whom he can prove his service it being now more than forty five years since he left Connecticut and more than forty years since he saw any person who served with him in the revolution war the JOHN WHITE
Sworn and subscribed before me This 25 th day of Sept. 1833 George M. Higgings
I Miram Bell Clerk of the County Commissioners County of Wabash County do certify that George M. Higgings Esq., before whom the above Affidavit was made is and was at the time of taking

22.4/374 12.073 John White Illinois
Page 5
Adm 1. year 86 Mo $ 60-
Susan Belle Mount Carmel Wabash County Ill

BRIEF in the case of  John White  County of Wabash  in the State of Illinois  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 41  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. As a Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Gen.   Years, Months, Days.     In 1746 substitute out enlistment for 3 6 Col. Roberson Col. Spencer   1748 1 " " " "  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None mentioned  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Connecticut  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditional  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? — The length of actual service is not exactly specified  X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
but appears to have served only 6 months
George Taylor
Examining Clerk.

October 16, 1930
Mr. B.J.Walter Mount Carmel Illinois
Dear Sir:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.32589, that John White was born May 7, 1761, in Stafford, Tolland County, Connecticut.
He enlisted and served as a private with the Connecticut Troops as follows: in 1776, three months; in 1777, six months, and was in General Spencer's Rhode Island Expedition; in 1778, six months; he also served another tour of three months, year not given. The exact dates of the above services and officers' names (other than that of General Spencer) are not given.
He stated that he had lived in the states of Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts, Ohio and Illinois.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 14, 1832, while residing in Abash County, Illinois, of which state he had then been a resident for sixteen years.
He died September 2, 1834.
The following children survived him: Lydia Minnis, Laura Pixley, Silas White, Sybil Brant, Mary Ingraham, Anson White, Luther White, Samuel White, Maria Bates, Calvin White, Louis White and Lansford White. The name of their mother is not stated.
Very truly yours
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner.
This showed up from their included in our list. Not a record of orig. records - B. J. Walter

32 589 Ray INVALID.
File No. 32, 589
John White Pri Rev War
Act: June 1 st 39 th
Index:—Vol. 9, Page 450
[Arrangement of 1870.]
Oct. 6, 1905 History to C. H. Townsend, Wash. D.C.
1916 Dec. 27. Hist. to Mrs. E. S. Walker. $ Dec. 28 - To auditor for name of person to whom awards were paid. $
1930 - Oct 16 - Hist. to B. J. L. Walter. Col.
1940 - Feb 20 - Hist. to Miss Daisy Whitehead (thru chn R. 1028 3/4 of John Stufflebeam)

the same an acting Justice of the peace in and for said County duly commissioned and qualified according to law
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at Maunaloa this 14 th day of October 1833 Hiram Bells Clerk

Walker
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The Commissioner of Pensions,
My dear Sir:-
Will you kindly send me the service of one John White, a soldier of the American Revolution who served from the state of Connecticut, and who applied for a pension while living in the state of Illinois?
Appreciating the favor,
I am
Truly yours
Mrs. E. S. Walker

In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of John White a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau. S. 32589
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     1776 3 mos. Private ✓ ✓ Conn.   1777 6 mos. Robinson ✓   1778 6 mos. ✓ ✓   3 mos. ✓ ✓  
Battles engaged in, ✓
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Connecticut.
Date of application for pension, Sept. 14, 1832. His claim was allowed.
Residence at date of application, Wabash Co. Illinois.
Age at date of application, born May 7, 1761 Stafford, Tolland Co Conn.
Remarks: he died Sept. 2 1834. To and for name of person to whom arrears of pension were paid.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

Daisy L. Whiteside, R. 2, Belleville, Ill.
John White , born Stafford Co., Conn., 1761; enlisted four times; served under Capt. Abner Robinson; came to live in Wabash Co., Illinois; died there about 1834; names of wife and children and all other data wanted.

OUR AIM "Community Service"
OUR MOTTO "America for Americans"
"In Peace As In War We Serve"
The American Legion
B. J. WALTER, Department of Military Records and Graves Registration.
Wabash Post No. 423
MT. CARMEL, ILL.
September 27, 1930.
The Bureau Pension Department, Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen:
Please furnish us with certificate of service of John White a veteran of the war of the Revolution.
This veteran was pensioned in Wabash county.
Very truly yours,
B. J. Walter, Dept. of Military Records and Graves Registration.

Wash DC 10/2 - 05
Pension Bureau Dept of Int Wash DC.
Please furnish the undersigned the Rev. War record of John White. Think he enlisted from Pomfret Conn and witnessed the execution of Maj Andre.
C. H. Townsend. 6th Floor Union Building, "G" St. N. W.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF AUDITOR FOR INTERIOR DEPARTMENT IN REPLYING QUOTE INITIALS
January 9, 1917.
The Commissioner of Pensions.
Sir:
In reply to your letter of December 28, 1916, you are informed that, according to the latest account rendered by the U. S. Pension Agent, at Carmi, Illinois, the records of this office show last payment to have been made to John White, 2nd, Priv. Army Rev., certificate No. 22454 , at $ 60.00  annum per month to September 2, 1834, the date of his death to Anson White, Attorney, for Lydia Minnis, Laura Pixley, Silas White, Sybil Brant, Mary Ingraham, Anson White, Luther White, Samuel White, and Maria Bates, children, and Attorney for Mitchel C. Minnis, Guardian of Calvin White, Louis White, and Lansford White, Minor children.
Letter herewith returned.
Respectfully,
Asa A. Price
Auditor.
By
W
Deputy Auditor.

3-397. (Old No. 3-399.)
DEPT. OF THE INTERIOR DEC 29 1916
Rev. War Section Division. S. File No. 32,589 John White 2 nd Conn. Mil.
DATE RECEIVED J. S. C., Ex'r.
Department of the Interior, BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
Washington, D. C., Dec. 28 th , 1916.
SIR:
For use in the above-entitled claim for pension, you are requested to furnish this Bureau with a report in the case of John White 2 nd who was allowed $60.00 per annum from Mch. 4, 1831 pensioned under the Act of June 7, 1832 by certificate No. 22,454 issued Nov. 5, 1833 at the Illinois Agency, showing name of the person to whom the arrears of his pension were paid.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.
THE AUDITOR FOR THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT,
Treasury Department.

February 20, 1940
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Miss Daisy L. Whiteside Route #2, Belleville, Illinois.
BA-J/CC John White S.32589
John Stufflebean R.10283 \frac{1}{2}
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John White, who was born in 1761, in Stafford County, Connecticut, moved to Wabash County, Illinois and died there about 1834, and that of John Stuffelbean who served with the Pennsylvania troops, moved to Randolph County, Illinois and died there in 1844.
You are furnished herewith the Revolutionary War record of John White and of John Stufflebean described by you.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

February 20, 1940.
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RA-J/CC Am John White S.32589
Miss Daisy L. Whiteside Route #2, Belleville, Illinois.
Dear Madam:
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in pension claim, S.32589, based upon service of John White in the Revolutionary War.
John White was born May 7, 1761, in Stafford, Tolland County, Connecticut.
John White enlisted and served as private with the Connecticut troops as follows: in 1776, three months; in 1777, six months, and was in General Spencer's Rhode Island Expedition; in 1778, six months; he also served another tour of three months, year not given. The exact dates of the above services and officers' names (other than that of General Spencer) are not given.
He stated that he had lived in the states of Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts, Ohio and Illinois.
John White was allowed pension on his application executed September 14, 1832, while residing in Wabash County, Illinois, of which state he had then been a resident for sixteen years.
He died September 2, 1834.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension and name and address of person paid you should address the Comptroller General
3rd Aud. report at back of cover -

General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:
John White 2nd, Certificate No. 22454 Issued November 5, 1833 Rate $60.00 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831 Act of June 7, 1832 Illinois Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John White which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yy II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yy III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yy V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? no no VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yy VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yy VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yy IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yy X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yy

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? no clergyman — yes as to others XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? yes XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
† QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡ QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Carroll Illinois
28 th Jan 1837
Sir
I enclose for your inspection. The papers claiming the balance due to the heirs of Glen White De d . The circumstance is as follows - I was in the County and neighbourhood where Mr White had resided - shortly after his decease { Sept 2, 1834. } saw some of the heirs, and gave them what instructions I could as to the steps to be taken to draw the Balance due, which is about $30 and 12 heirs. They residing in three different states - - The enclosed papers were prepared some one or two years ago and have been retained expecting me again to be in that County - This day Anson White the attorney for nine of the children has called on me I am satisfied that all is fair and I trust only the length of time that has elapsed makes it necessary that your order shall issue to authorise the payment
very Respectfully
Daniel H. H Hay
James L Edwards Esqr commissioner of pensions Washington City