Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11716, Johannes Werth, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Werth, Johannes
S. 11716
CONTENTS
carded

6796 New York
Johannes Wuth
of Schenectady in the State of N. York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Mann of the Regt. commanded by Genl. Warner in the N. York line for 2 Years
Inscribed on the Roll of N. York at the rate of 80 Dollars — £ per annum to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7 th day of March 1833 — and Reuter H. J. Brown H. J. B.
Arrears to the 14th of March 1832 $120 Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Sep. '33 40 $200
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Seal. Tully Clerk Book 12 Vol. 34 Page 35
Dead - See letter to son 95 June 14, 1833.

14.858.
Johannes Werth
Adm
Hon. Joseph Bouk H. of R.

14.858.
BRIEF in the case of  Sohames Werth  County of Schoharie in the State of New York  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 86.  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days. As a Gen.     In 1775 Fall " " "Twenty or Thirty days." Private Capt. G. Mann Col. Vroman   1776 Spring " " "Till late in the Fall." " Capt. Stubrach Col. Vroman   1777 Spring " " "Till some time in Fall." " do. do. do. do. —   1778 Spring " " "Till in the Fall." " do. do. do. do. —   1779 Spring " " "Till in the Fall." " do. do. do. do. —   1780 " " "Till in the Fall." " do. do. do. do. —   1781 Spring " " "in the Fall." " do. do. do. do. —  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Schoharie City N.Y.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? credible witnesses  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? They are not attached to the Clerk's seal. 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
   1782 Spring "Till late in the Fall." Private   1783 Spring "About 20 days." "  
Capt. Stubrach , Col. Vroman Examining Clerk.  J. Waugh March 5. 1833.

4858 Johannes Werth Babyl. New York Declaration
round 2 years off pri. 80/

I certify that the within papers are genuine & that I have the fullest confidence in the character of claimant & witnesses -
Joseph Brunk

State of New York (p. 1) Schoharie County
On this fifth day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty-two. personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Schoharie now sitting Johannes Warth, a resident of the town of Cobleskill in the county of Schoharie and State of New York, aged eighty six years, who being duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7, 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as here in State.
He was firstly, as near as he can recollect, bound to appear in Captain George Hahn's company of militia, in Colonel Kirmans regiment at Schoharie, then in the county of Albany and now county of Schoharie, where he then resided at the time, it was, he thinks, in the fall of the year 1775. That he joined the company at Schoharie aforesaid in the State of New York and marched from there to Albany and from there to Still Water, and from there to Fort Edward, and stayed there only a few days and then marched back to Half Moon, and from there to Schenectady, and from there he thinks they went up to Cahnawaga and from there they went to Johnstown, now in the county of Montgomery in said State. He thinks they were discharged then, but the discharge was not in writing, was out in that time 20 or 30 days. That in the year 1776, He was again ordered into the service, but whether he was ordered to appear by a corporal or ordered in by the Captain he cannot recollect but that he joined Captain Stubrachs company in Colonel Kirmans regiment at the lower fort in Schoharie, it was in the spring of the year he thinks, but he cannot remember the month. That he resided at Schoharie at the time. That he continued in the service till late in the fall. He was then discharged at the fort in Schoharie according to the best of his recollection & belief.
That in the spring of the year 1777, He was again ordered into the service at Schoharie aforesaid, where he then resided, he joined Captain Stubrachs company in the same regiment and was for part of the time employed in scouting & guarding the fort. That he continued in the service in the said company and regiment till some time in the fall when he was discharged at Schoharie aforesaid.
In the spring of the year of 1778, he was again ordered into the same company in Col. Kirmans regiment, at Schoharie aforesaid, and he continued to serve in the company and regiment till in the fall when he again was discharged at Schoharie aforesaid.
That in the spring of the year 1779 he was again ordered into the service in the same company and regiment at Schoharie aforesaid and continued till in the fall when he was again discharged at the lower fort in Schoharie.

That in the year 1780. He was again ordered in to the service at Schoharie, of course where he then resided, in the same company and regiment and served in it till in the fall of the year when he was again discharged at Schoharie aforesaid and in the year 1781. He served in the same company and regiment at Schoharie aforesaid from early in the spring till in the fall of the same year, and was discharged at Schoharie aforesaid. That the next spring 1782 he was again called in to the same company and regiment at Schoharie aforesaid where he served till late in the fall when he was again discharged at the lower fort in said town and again in the year 1783 he served in the spring a short time about 20 days he thinks and then they were all discharged at Schoharie . That the place was a frontier at that time and was greatly troubled with the Indians who murdered and scalped a great many during the war and that it took all the men that were left in Schoharie to guard the fort and protect the inhabitants. That after winter set in each year it was not so bad here during the warm seasons they were greatly afflicted with the enemy during the whole war.
He says that he was born in the year 1746, as he has kept his age according to the information of his parents. He was born at Schoharie in the (now) county of Schoharie and state of New York and that his age is recorded as he has been told in the Church Book of the Dutch Reformed congregation the High Dutch Reformed congregation at Schoharie aforesaid. That he was living at Schoharie when called into the service and had lived there ever since till a few years ago he moved in to Cobleskill an adjoining town in said county where he now lives. That when he was called in to the service he was liable to do military duty and was warned or commanded to appear and join the company at the different periods as he has above stated, that he was not a substitute for any one but served on his own account.
That he cannot remember the names of any of the officers of the regular forces who were with the troops when he served does not recollect of any being stationed near where it was for a few days. That he never received a written discharge.
That in the neighborhood where he has lived since he was born till he moved in to an adjoining town as above stated a few years ago, he was acquainted with William Becker John Becker

Jacob Becker, Henry Becker, Jacob Schooncraft, John Schooncraft, John L. Snyder, Bartholomew Swart, Abraham Bergh and others who he thinks would testify as to his being a man of means and of their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever even to a pension or annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the State or any of any State.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court John Debeaud Jr. Clk.
Johannes Worth
Johannes Worth vs. Abraham Bergh, of the town and county of Schoharie and State of New York being duly sworn saith, that he is some three years of age and that he is well acquainted with Johannes Worth who had subscribed and sworn to the foregoing declaration and that he knows that the said Johannes Worth served in the revolutionary war as he had stated in his declaration which this deponent has just heard read. That he this deponent was with him during each campaign from the year 1775 till 1783, as the different terms of service are set forth in his declaration.
N.B. in the 7 line from the top the word "war" inserted before sworn to
Abraham Bergh
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court John Debeaud Jr. Clk.

Schoharie County ss. Jacob Schoelcraft of the town and county of Schoharie, being duly sworn saith that he is seventy years and some months of age and he is well acquainted with Johannes Worth who had subscribed and sworn to the foregoing declaration and that he was well acquainted with him during the revolutionary War and that he has heard his declaration of his services in the revolution and War read, and that he knows that the said Johannes Worth served in Captain Stuberbach's company in Colonel Vroman's regiment as he has from the year 1776 till the year 1783 as he had stated in his declaration that this deponent was orderly sergeant of the company from the fall of the year 1776 till 1783 during the different periods of service as set forth from that time.
N o 13. in the 10th line from the top the words "as he has" erased before present.
Sworn & subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court. John Schaeffer Jr. Clk.
Jacob Schoelcraft
Schoharie County ss. Bartholomew Swart, of the town and county of Schoharie and State of New York being duly sworn saith that he is sixty nine years of age and that he is well acquainted with Johannes Worth, and was acquainted with him during the revolutionary War and this deponent has heard his declaration read and he knows that the said Johannes Worth served in the revolution from the month of May in the year One thousand seven hundred seventy eight till May 1783 as he has stated, that this deponent was in the same company and regiment during that time to wit from 1778 till May 1783 during the seasons then in State.
N o 13. in the 4th line in this affidavit the word "year" inserted before present.
Sworn to Sworn & subscribed in open court the day and year aforesaid John Schaeffer Jr. Clk.
Bartholomew Swart

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier as he states. And the court further certify that they are well acquainted with Abraham Bargh, Jacob Schoelcraft and Bartholomew Swart the persons who have signed and sworn to the above affidavits, that they are credible persons, and that their statements are entitled to credit.
William Bachman
M. Mann
Henry Shaper
I John Gebhard p. Clerk of the court of common pleas of the said county of Schoharie do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court, in the matter of the application of Johannes West for a pension - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this sixth day of October 1832 -
John Gebhard p. Clerk

June 9, 1939.
Mrs. Kenneth L. Turnbull 207 South 3rd Street Janesville, Wisconsin.
BA-J/ILL Johannes Werth S. 11716
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to your ancestor, John Weart (variously spelled) who served from New York State in the Revolutionary War, also, in regard to Garret Vansant, who was born in 1743, in Pennsylvania, served from Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and died in that county in 1797.
A search of the Revolutionary War records of this office has been made and no claim for pension or bounty land found based upon service of a Garret Vansant of Pennsylvania, under any spelling of that surname. The record has been found of only one Johannes Werth, variously spelled, who served from New York in that war. His record is furnished you herein as found in his claim for pension, S. 11716. under any spelling
Johannes Werth was born in the year 1746, in Schoharie, Albany County, New York; his birth was recorded in the Dutch Reformed Church of Schoharie. The names of his parents are not shown, nor the exact day of his birth.
While a resident of Schoharie, New York, he enlisted in the fall of 1775, and served on various towns in each year until the spring of 1783, amounting in all to at least two years, as private under Captains George Man (Mann) and Stubach (Stubag), in Colonel Vrooman's regiment of New York troops; during his service, he was engaged principally in the vicinity of Schoharie, defending the inhabitants from the Indians, who frequently murdered the inhabitants there.
Johannes Werth was allowed pension on his application executed October 5, 1832, at which time he resided in Cobleskill, a town adjoining Schoharie, New York. He had moved there from Schoharie a few years previously.
n. y. Archives page 273 for verification of officer

The soldier made no reference to wife or children at the time he made application for pension.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid, and, possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, this city, and furnish the following data:
Johannes Werth Certificate #6796 Issued March 7, 1833 Rate $80 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831 Act of June 7, 1832 New York Agency.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, EXECUTIVE Assistant to the Administrator.

1939 June 9 - Visit to Mrs. Kenneth L. Turnbull - S.L.L.
Rev. War.
11716 INVALID.
File No. 11716
Johannes Werth Rev. War.
Act: June 1932
Index: Vol. 9 , Page 399
[Arrangement of 1870.]

MRS. KENNETH L. TURNBULL 207 SOUTH THIRD STREET JANESVILLE, WISCONSIN
April 16 th , 1939
Veterans Administration, Washington, D.C.,
Dear Sir,
I have been looking up Ancestors & found in New Yorks in the Revolutionary War as Colony & State by J. A. Roberts P. 182 John Weart, private, militia, Lyons County, 3 rd Regiment. My Ancestor was the first in this country to spell his name that way.
I wrote to Albany for information & they could not find any record of John Weart or John Wert. Wirt, Kurt
I wrote to Washington, Adjutant General's Office. They found a record for one Johannes Werth (name also known as

John Werth and Johannes Werth) rank not shown. Served in Revolutionary War in Troupman's Regiment (Albany County Militia) New York Militia. Name appears on list under heading "Pay Roll 1 st May 1779". On Nov. 3 rd 1784 he received several certificates in the sum of £12 510 3-1/3 on account of service in that Regiment.
They suggested I write to you for additional information.
My John Weart or Werth was born on the high seas 1733, March 17 th . His father W m Hellena Vintner Werthe settled at Amwell, Hunterdon County, New Jersey now called Werth's Corners or Werthville. He purchased land of Joseph Stout Dec 7, 1743. He also owned plantation in Greenwich Township, Sussex County N.J.

The required is will be Hellenus Wheat June 16, 1773 - N.J. Archives Vol 34 - P. 571.
I do not know where John lived except that he inherited Ansell land with brother Christopher (Crestean) & lived there until 1795 when his brother died. He moved to Hopewell, Mercer County N.J. died there 1821 age 88 yrs.
I wrote to Hunterdon County to Adj General Office, Trenton N. J.
Their only record was John Wheat -
John West - was fined £28:7:4, January 29, 1778 which fine was ordered remitted by the Hunterdon Sessions, February 1778.
I would appreciate any information you can furnish on John Went. I feel sure the one who served in N.Y. is the same one. Very truly yours, (over) Edna Edna Went Turnbull (Mrs. K. L. Turnbull).

Have you any Record for Garnet Tausant born Abingdon, Pa 1743- died Bucks County 1797-
Who served as private in 2 nd Associated Company of Bucks County, Pa under Col Joseph Kirkbride, & subsequently was promoted to Lieutenant in the 6 th Associated Company?
He was an ancestor on my mother's side.