Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11632, Abner Van Namee, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Van Namee, Abner Van Amy
S. 11632
CONTENTS
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14 1/2 31 New York
Abner Van Amy of Ballston in the State of New York who was a Lieut in the Company commanded by Captain Wilsey of the Reg t commanded by Col Dake in the New York line for 8 months & 5 days.
Abner Van Namee: Records corrected.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York Oct. 30 '33 at the rate of 108 Dollars 88 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 10 day of May 1833 and sent Hon. M. Taylor Ballston N.Y.
Arrears to the 4th of March '33 $217.76 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sep '33 54.44
272.20
Feb. 17. 1835
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Geo. Bromwell Clerk, Book E Vol. 4 Page 34

John Van Amy
Gov Clinton Gov of NY his signature to a Comf 1778
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State of New York Saratoga County ss: On this sixth day of September in the year 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Saratoga in the said state now sitting Abner Van Army a resident of Ballston in the County of Saratoga & State of New York aged Eighty years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832 That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers & served as herein stated. He was born in Poughkeepsie in the County of Dutchess in said state July 30 th 1752. He has no record of his age. He is known to Isaac Rowland & Aaron Rice of Milton & Aaron Nash of Ballston in said County who can testify to his character for veracity & their belief of his services as a soldier of the Resolutions.
In the year 1777 & during the whole war he resided in Pittstown in the County of Rensselaer in said state; Early in the spring of that year he was chosen first lieutenant in Capt. Cornelius Wilsey's company in Col. Knickerbacker's regiment of Militia but did not receive his commission until the next year when he received the commission hereunto annexed signed "Geo. Clinton." This deponent however served as first Lieutenant immediately after his election by the company in the same manner as if he had been commissioned & always when called out drew pay as such as well before as after the date of his commission. Early in the spring of the year 1777 aforesaid he was ordered by his said Colonel to march to Fort Edward with half his company & report for further orders to Gen.

Schuyler, - This deponent detached half the company & marched accordingly to Fort Edward where he reported to the continental Officer in command of the Fort, by whom he was ordered to march to Fort George, he did so & after a service of Eighteen days was then discharged by Gen. Schuyler, & with his men returned home. He had been at home about one week when an order came for the whole company to march to Fort George. This deponent with his captain & men marched accordingly & served in this second tour the same term of Eighteen days that is to say four days going & returning & fourteen days at Fort George aforesaid, when they were discharged & returned home. He had been at home but eight or ten days when he this deponent & his whole company were ordered a third time to Fort George by Gen. Schuyler. He & his company marched accordingly & remained in service at the Fort until it was evacuated & blown up by the American commander, he marched back to Fort Edward, where he lay one week, when half the company were dismissed & sent home, this deponent & the other half remained three two weeks longer & were then discharged. This third term of service was one month & three days at Fort George & twenty one days at Fort Edward & three days returning home, making this third tour one month & twenty seven days . In the year 1778 Col. Yates commanded the regiment to which he belonged, & early in the summer of that year this deponent & his company by order of Col. Yates marched to Fort Edward & served twenty days & were discharged. In the autumn of the same year 1778 by order of said Col. Yates he & his company marched again to Fort Edward to garrison the Fort

& left it until they were relieved by the as part of Col. Van Schaick's Regiment of the New-York line of Continentals. His second service in the year 1778 was for one month & four days & he returned home.
This deponent remained at home two or three weeks when the enemy came from Canada & committed many depredations on the Northern Frontier carrying off the people & driving away large droves of cattle. Thereupon Gov. Clinton ordered out a force to march to Lake George to cut off the enemy. This deponent & his company under command of Gov. Clinton marched to Lake George where the companies were consolidated & the supernumerary officers were dismissed to return home. This deponent was one of said supernumeraries. He was in service on
this expedition thirteen days .
In the year 1779 in the summer & autumn he was ordered by Col. Yates through Capt. Wilsey aforesaid to detach half the company to serve alternately each half a month to keep garrison at Palmettown on the Northern Frontier. In pursuance of this order he marched there, & kept the garrison under Capt. White & Capt. Brown. His service on this duty in the year 1779 aforesaid was two months & ten days .
This deponent has omitted to state a service he performed in the year 1777, by order of

the Committee of Safety of Albany no Rensselaer County. The Committee held their meetings at Beckie's tavern in Scaghticoke & ordered this deponent then a lieutenant to take twenty men of his company & keep guard by day & by night at suspected places such as they pointed out. He did so for half a month . The following are the names
In the year 1776 of some of the said Committee of Safety Samuel Rowlands who had been Colonel of the Militia before the war broke out, Benjamin Hicks William Thorne, Benjamin Eastwood & Samuel Hitchcock.
The said Alner Van Amy hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the Pension roll of the agency of any state. Since the war & that after the revolutionary war he resided in Pittstown aforesaid until the year 1816 when he moved to Ballston aforesaid where he has resided ever since —
Sworn & subscribed in open Court the 6 th day of September 1832 —
Alner Van Amy Thomas Palmer Clerk

We Isaac Rowland of Milton in the county of Saratoga, the town adjoining Ballston aforesaid, Aaron Price of the same town & Aaron Nash of Ballston aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Abner Van Amy who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be Eighty years of age that he is reputed & believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion. Isaac Rowland Sworn & subscribed in open Court the 6 th day of September 1832 } Aaron Price Thomas Palmer Clerk } Aaron Nash
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the Department of War, that the above applicant was a revolutionary soldier & served as he states And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Isaac Rowland, Aaron Price & Aaron Nash who have signed the preceding certificate are residents; the two first of the town of Milton & the last of the town of Ballston in said County of Saratoga & are credible persons & that their statement is entitled to credit

13. 111 111 I Thomas Palmer Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Saratoga aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Abner Van Amy for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office
this sixth day of September 1832
Thomas Palmer Clerk

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Mr W Taylor

BRIEF in the case of Abner Van Amy of Ballston of Saratoga County in the State of New York. (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Open Court.  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 80 years  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 1777. etc — 8 2 1st Lieut. Gen. Schuyler. Col. C. Versey  Col. Knickerbacker Col. Yates  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Pittstown Rensselaer Co NY.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? In a traditional his commission  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct. 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Nathan Cady Examining Clerk.

1914 Mar. 17 Hist. to Elmer G. Van Name. V.L.M.
Rehran
11.632 ✓ INVALID.
File No. 11.632
Abner Van Amy Lt. Rev. War
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. 2 , Page 389
[Arrangement of 1870.]
Abner Van Namee: Records corrected Oct. 30 '03 a

11632
Abner Van Amy
Conf Geo Clinton Gov
aug 6 1780
Dated August 6, 1778.
Framed

543 Haddon ave, Camden N.J.
Mar. 9. 1914
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:—
I am referred to your department by the Adjutant General of the United States for information regarding the service of Zephaniah Weeks, Abner and Aaron Van Name

in the Revolutionary War. I should like to secure all the information you can give regarding them.
I think Mr Weeks was from Pennsylvania and the other two from New York.
Thanking you for an early reply, I am,

Very truly Yours
Oliver G. Van Name
5423 Hudson Av.
Camden N.J.

signs A one their name

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims , of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Abner Van Amy Saratoga Co. N York which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? no V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? no VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? no XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? yes Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? no XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
S. F. 11632
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Abner Van Amee * a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. * Pensioned Van Amy
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Spring 1777 2 mos 18 days 1st Lieut Cornelius Wilsay Knickerbaker N.Y.   June 22 1778 2 mos 7 days 1st Lt Cornelius Wilsay Peter Gabet   Summer 1779 2 mos 10 days " White & Brown  
Battles engaged in, _____ Residence of soldier at enlistment, Pittstown Rensselaer Co. N.Y. Date of application for pension, Sept 6 1832  His el. el. Residence at date of application, Ballston Saratoga Co. N.Y. Age at date of application, b. in Poughkeepsie N.Y. July 30 1752
Remarks: No data as to family
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

The People of the State of New York By the Grace of God, FREE and INDEPENDENT. Abner Lany Genl. Greeting.
WE reposing a special Trust and Confidence, as well in your Patriotism, Conduct and Loyalty, as in your Labour and Readiness to do us good and faithful Service, Have Appointed and constituted and by these Presents DO Appoint and Constitute you the said Abner Lany First Lieutenant of Captain Cornelius M c Clay's Company in the County of Albany in the Regiment of Peter Sats c Esquire is Colonel. YOU are therefore to take the said Company into your charge and care as First Lieutenant thereof, and duly to exercise the Officers and Soldiers of that Company in Arms, who are hereby commanded to obey you as their First Lieutenant, and you are also to Observe and follow such Orders and Directions, as you shall from time to time, receive from our General and Commander in chief of the Militia of our said State, or any other your Superior Officer, according to the Rules and discipline of War in pursuance of the Trust reposed in you; and for so doing this shall be YOUR Commission, for and during our pleasure, to be Signified by our Council of appointments. In Testimony whereof, we have caused our Seal for our Governor of our State of New York, General and Commander in chief of all the Militia, a Council of Appointment, the Twenty second day of June in the Second year of our Lord one Thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy Eight.
By His Excellency's Command. John Jay Mr. R. M c Clay Secretary.