Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 3,593, John Williams, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Williams, John
S 3593
CONTENTS
carded.

Order to pay. See let. to H. Groesbeck. 2 o June, 1834.
A n 7. 713.
Ohio
John Williams.
of Delaware in the State of Ohio who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Wm Horn of the Regt command. by Col. Edy Horn in the New York At. line for 12 Months from 1777. or 8
Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio at the rate of $40. Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 22 d day of March 1833 — and sent to Thomas Reynolds Delaware Co Ohio
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $ 80-00 Semi-ant. allowance ending Sept " 20-00
Died Feb 2, 1837 $ 100. 00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by T. S. Evans. Clerk, Book E Vol. 8. Page 28

20133
John Williams
Ohio
Admitted for 12 months
1778.
$40
Th. Reynolds CR Delaware CR Ohio

BRIEF in the case of John Williams  County of Delaware in the State of Ohio  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 88  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     dropped In 1777 or 78 1 Private Gen. Wayne   1 " Capt. Mendenhall   1780 1 14 " none mentioned   not stated " Capt. Peteloff   ten or seven tours " Capt. Mendenhall   not stated "    I served in this manner at least twelve months, I think rather more, during the war.
 5. In what battles was he engaged?  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Orange Co. N. York  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? traditional  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? no clergyman 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Ephraim Forest Re-examining Clerk.

John Williams Application for Pension
20133

John Williams of Painesville Tn.
The State of Ohio Delaware County ss
Be it remembered that on the twenty first day of November in the year eighteen hundred and thirty two, personally appeared in open Court before the judges of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the County of Delaware and State of Ohio, now in residence John Williams a resident of Painesville Township in the said County, aged eighty eight years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.
I the said John Williams on my oath state that I entered the service of the United States under the following named officer and served as herein stated to wit:—
I was born in Orange County New York, about the year 1744, and am now eighty eight years old. In the year 1777 or 78 I was drafted twice in one summer to serve one month each time. I served these tours under Capt. John Menthorn and in a Regt. under the command of Col. John Haythorn. I served these tours at stations near by on the North river. The first was at a place called Niock and the next at Ramapo. After which I was discharged. I was at no place where there were large body of troops; the last tour was about the time Esopus was burnt. After this it was arranged with that the Militia of that part of the Country should serve term about of four and six weeks each time. Under this arrangement I served a term of six weeks at Ramapo the next

year as before. In 1779 or 80 I served three tours of four or six weeks each at Minnesink on the Delaware River under Capt. Peter Peteloff in guarding the indian frontier. After I served those tours on the Delaware river, before the close of the war I served as many as six or seven such tours on the North River. Generally stationed at Neversink and Ramapo under Capt. John Minton and Lieut. George Vance. I can not recollect all the particulars but I served in this manner at least twelve months and I think rather more during the war. A few years after the revolution I moved from Orange County to the Susquehanna river near Wilkesburg where I resided until 1817 when I removed to Delaware County Ohio where I now reside.
I have no documentary evidence and know of no person whose testimony I can procure who can testify to my services. I hereby relinquish all claims whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state. From and subject to the day & year first.
John D. Williams (M.W.P.)

We Norman Patrick & Jonathan M Jenkins residents of Porter Township, in said County and
residing in the neighbourhood of the above named John Williams do certify that we are well acquainted with the said John Williams who has signed & sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be eighty eight years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Subscribed & sworn to, the day & year aforesaid.
Norman Patrick
Jonathan M. Jenkins
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named John Williams was a revolutionary soldier as recited as he states. And the court further certify that it appears to them that Norman Patrick and Jonathan M. Jenkins who have signed & sworn to the preceding certificate are residents in the said County and in the neighbourhood of the above named applicant, and are creditable persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
J. Thomas Reynolds Clerk of the Court of Com. Pleas aforesaid, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Williams for a Pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of my office this 21 st day of Nov. A.D. 1832.
J. Reynolds, Clerk

Washington October 15, 1931
Memorial Branch Office of the Quartermaster General War Department Washington, D.C.
BA-5/ENL
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter relative to John Williams, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.
The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S.3953, based upon the military service of John Williams in that war.
John Williams was born in 1744, in Orange County, New York.
He enlisted, place not stated, in the summer of 1777 or 1778, and served two months as a private in Captain John Minthorn's Company, Colonel John Hathorn's New York Regiment; the following year, he served six weeks, officers names not stated; and in 1779 or 1780, he served three tours of four or six weeks each, as a private under Captain Peter Petoloff, in the New York Troops and guarded the frontiers against the Indians; before the close of the war, he served at least six or seven other tours, dates and officers names not given, his entire service amounting to at least twelve months.
Could not identify Probably meant for Capt Peter Berthalf- Orange Co Mil.
A few years after the Revolution, he moved from Orange County, New York, to the Susquehanna River, near Wilkes-Barre, where he resided until 1817, when he moved to Delaware County, Ohio.
He was allowed pension on his application executed November 21, 1832, while a resident of Sunbury Township, Delaware County, Ohio.
He died February 2, 1837.
There are no data as to his family.
From AB
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator.

WAR DEPARTMENT OFFICE OF THE QUARTERMASTER GENERAL WASHINGTON
SEP 10 1931 1931
Memorandum for
The Surgeon General, Bureau of Navigation, Navy Department, Commandant, United States Coast Guard, Treasury Department, The Commissioner of Pensions, Interior Building, General Accounting Office, F Street, between 4th & 5th, N. W.
1. The attached application has been submitted to this office for Government headstone to be erected at the grave of the decedent named thereon. In order that the proper inscription may be placed on the stone it would be appreciated if your office would verify the name and service on the application, checking and making such corrections in red ink as may be necessary to show the correct spelling of the name and complete designation of the organizations.
2. In addition, please advise State from which decedent came.

Re-trap
3593
INVALID.
File No. 3593
John Williams Pr. A. G. M.
Act: June 7, 1832
Index: Vol. 28 , Page 407
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1931-Oct. 15- Hist. to Quartermaster Gen. Office War Dept. - EEL

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of J. Williams which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? No VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? no XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 2, 5, 6, 7.
 EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
† QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡ QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.