Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 14803, David Webb, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York.
Webb, David
S. 14803
Carded.
CONTENTS

6508 New York David Webb
of Allegany in the State of N. York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Long — of the Regt. commanded by Col. Williams in the N. York line for 15 (Months) and 7 (days)
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 50 Dollars 78 Cents per ann. to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 21 st day of May 1833 — and due to H. M. N. York A. of R.
Arrears to the 4th of Apr. 1832 $ 70 17 Pemi-anl. allowance ending 1 st Dec. '33 25 39 $ 101 56
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1831.
Recorded by George C. Miley Clerk Book Vol. 5 Page 205

State of New York
Otsego County
Polly Stevens of the town of Essex in the County of Otsego and state of New York being duly sworn saith that she is in the eighty first year of her age, that she is the sister of David Webb whose application is herunto annexed. That she resided during the revolutionary war in the town of Salem in the County of Washington in this state, in the neighborhood of her father with whom her brother David then lived she recollects that David joined the Army and went into the service at or near the times mentioned in his declaration herunto annexed that he was absent each time according to the best of her recollection about the length of time mentioned in said declaration and that at the time and at all times since she has understood he served in the revolution as a private soldier faithfully whilst he was gone and that he was honorably discharged. She also very well recollects that the Indians and Tories were very annoying in the neighborhood for three or four years after the commencement of the war and that the militia were frequently called upon to repel their aggressions and she understood at the time that her brother David was often out when these alarms took place, and that it has ever been understood and often talked of among the family and their connections and acquaintances in the neighborhood that he served in the revolutionary war and was a good faithful soldier - and further saith not -
Polly Stevens

Otsego County, ss. Be it remembered that on this Sixth day of September 1832 Polly Atkins to me known came before me and made oath to the truth of the within affidavit after the same was read and fully explained to and understood by her, and I certify that the said Polly Atkins is a person of truth and veracity and entitled to credit, and that her mental faculties appear to be very good for one of her age.
Samuel Beckwith Justice of the Peace, " "
State of New York } Otsego County } ss. I, Horace Lathrop Clerk of the said County do certify that Samuel Beckwith before whom the preceding affidavit purports to have been sworn was on the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in & for said County that I am acquainted with his hand writing & sincerely believe his name subscribed to the said affidavit to be his own proper hand writing & signature Witness my hand & Seal of Office this 2 nd day of Oct. 1832 Horace Lathrop By Thos. H. Clegg Deputy
Leonia Webb

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Otsego County
Mr Daniel Nash a Clergyman residing in the Town of Richfield & Simeon Lidall a resident of the Town of Exeter both of Otsego County aforesaid hereby certify that we are & have been well acquainted with Doris Webb who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration for more than twenty years, that he has seen her returned a man of truth and veracity that we believe him to be 73 years of age that he is up and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion
Sworn & subscribed Daniel Nash Minister of the Gospel This 20 day of September of the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and 42 before me the State of New York. Simon Lidall
Richard H. Gorton Commissioner of Courts of Otsego County
I Heron Lothrop Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the County of Otsego hereby certify that the foregoing contains the originals proceedings before the said Court in the matter of the application of Doris Webb for a pension And I further certify that Simon H Gorton before whom the above affidavit purports to have been made was at the time of the taking thereof an acting Com

million of seeds in order the said County of Otsego Southward by line to the said officers. Thos I am acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe the signa- ture thereto attached to be his own proper hand writing. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 19 th day of October 1832
Horace Lathrop. Clerk

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BRIEF in the case of  David Webb  County of Allego  in the State of New York  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? no  3. How old is he? 73.  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     Vol. In 1777, St. Lawrence 4 17 Private. Capt. E. Long, Col. S. Williams   Sundry 1777 & 78. tours "at least 40 days in the whole." " none mentioned   Enlisted 1778 1 st May 8 " Capt. John Barnes, Col. Warner   Several 1779 tours. "was out in all at least 40 days." " none mentioned  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? Saratoga.  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Washington City. N.Y.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary & a witness.  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? They are not attached to the Seal. 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
J. Waugh Examining Clerk.  Feb. 23. 1833.

Oswego Common Pleas. Of October Term 1832
Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832-
State of New York
Oswego County ss-
On this 15 th day of September October in the year one thousand Eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Honorable Robert Brown Esquire Circuit Judge for the Sixth Judicial Circuit in the state of New York the said Court now sitting in Coffers- town in and for the County aforesaid David Webb a resident of the town and county of Oswego aged thirty there were on the 12 th of december last years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832-
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated
at Salem Washington County New York On the first of June 1777 he volunteered in a company of militia commanded by Capt Edward Long in Col John Williams Regiment of New York militia, The next day after he volunteered he marched with said Regiment to Ticonderoga, At the time they arrived at Ticonderoga the British forces were on board the fleet on Lake Champlain anchored off the Fort and were landing their artillery and taking it up Mount Defiance preparatory to an attack upon the Fort, A few days after their arrival the Fort was evacuated by order of General Schuyler or General St Clair as he understood at the time, does not distinctly recollect which thinks it was Genl Schuyler dont recollect of seeing Genl St Clair there, after the evacuation of the Fort he retreated with the troops to Saratoga at which place and in the neighborhood of the same he remained in the service till after the surrender of

of Genl Putnam On the 17 th of October in the year 1777- when he was discharged and returned to his home in Salem Washington County he took no written discharge from his officers at the time of leaving the Army, The militia were all discharged by parole,
Between October 1777 and May 1778 he was several times called out with the militia to resist the attacks and restrain the depredations of the Indians and Tories the precise number of times he was called out and the number of days he was devoted to this service he cannot possibly recollect, but has no doubt of being out for at least forty days in the whole, Salem the place of his residence was near the Frontier and almost constantly menaced and harassed by the Tories and Indians,
40 days 8 Mos On or about the first of May 1778 he enlisted at Salem in Washington County N.Y under Capt John Barnes in Col Warner's Regiment of Vermont Rangers, for eight months , he joined the Company and Regiment the day after he enlisted and marched first according to his best recollection to Fort Edward on the Hudson River, he continued in this service eight months according to the terms of his enlistment when he was discharged by parole, During these eight months he was stationed alternately at Fort Edward, Fort Miller Fort Ann White Hall and Kingsbury and Fort George as the presence of the forces were most needed at these several places, In the month of January he returned home to Salem, During the year 1779 he was frequently called out with the militia upon alarms to resist the incursions of the Indians and Tories was out in all during this year in such service at least forty days , He recollects that three predatory parties were generally headed by one Pitts a tory who was afterwards taken at Ballston and tried and Executed at Albany as he understood and believes - 40 days 8 Mos

In Oct 1777, he was in three engagements at Saratoga with the British & Hessian troops He recollects of assisting in taking from the British an old French Fort or breast work sit- uate on the West side of the Hudson near the mouth of Fish creek and not far from the residence of Genl. Schuyler - He recollects General Gates, General Arnold, General Schuy- ler &c - He was born in New Rutland in the State of Massachusetts, when he in December 1758 when at the age of six years his parents removed to Salem Washington County New York where they resided and he with them when he entered the service as above stated, He has a record of his age in his bible at his house in Otsego - He lived in Salem till about thirty years ago when he removed into the County of Otsego in which county he still continues to reside, He has no documentary evidence of his ser- -vices and he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to it, The af- -fidavit of Polly Stines herunto annexed ex- cepted - He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state - Given the 8 th day of Decr 1860 in open court  Horace Lathrop Clerk                      David G. Bell

and the said court hereby declare their opinion after an investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the said Daniel Nash was a revolution- ary soldier during the war as he states
And the said court further certify that Daniel Nash who has signed the certificate hereto attached is a clergyman & a resident of the town of Richfield in said county of Otsego & Simon Ladd a resident of the town of Essex who has also signed the same is a credible person & their statement is entitled to credit
J. O. Munn } Judges. E. Foote } S. Page

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David Webb
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Daniel Webb which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? No VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? yes If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? yes Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 7.
 EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
☞ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

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✓ 14 803 INVALID.
File No. 14 803
David Webb Priv Beer War
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 400
[Arrangement of 1870.]