Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S 44029, Joseph Welch, Continental Mass.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Continental Mass.
Welch, Joseph
S 44029
{ P.L.Wt. 2331-200. Lieut. Issued Oct. 1, 1799 to Marbury Turner, assignee, name spelled Welsh . No papers.
CONTENTS

2,757 New York Roll.
Joseph Welch Col Patterson Lieutenant Massachusetts Line
In the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of Twenty Dollars per month, to commence on the 7 th of April 1818.
Certificate of Pension issued the 22 d of Sept. 1818 and sent to R. M. Livingston Saratoga N.Y.
Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1818. 4m. 28/30 -- 98:66 Semi-ann. all'ce ending 4 th March 1819 -- 120
Died Feb. 15, 1875 $ 218:66 a.B.
{ Revolutionary claim, } { Act 18th March, 1818. }
4 Years 1776
Continued
Northumberland Saratoga

Let Hon. T. Dodd
Let Hon. T. Dodd,
Feb. 22/56
Joseph Prescott
April 29, 1857
The Joseph Prescott to whom the letter of Apr. 29, 1857 was written was the son-in-law of Joseph Welch b. 11/707 - and the paper has been placed in that claim, art. June 6, 13
D. r.
Notification from Mr. L. to Mr. S. D. ... Chas. White ...

Caldwell Warren Co. State of New York March 27 th 1855
To The Comt. of Pensions
Sir I am one of the heirs of Joseph Welch who was a commissioned officer in the Revolutionary War he had 8 sons and 4 daughters And I am the son of Stephen My uncles Joseph Welch's sons names are Benjamin Elisha Hazleton Jedidiah Asa Lubbon & Joseph -
I understand there is money due to my Grand Father as back pay to which the legal heirs are entitled and the reason of my writing to you is I understand that one of the heirs is trying to draw the whole in exclusion of all the rest
I want the matter rest until I can get such evidence and papers drawn and authenticated as will set the whole affair on an honest footing for each of the heirs as soon as I get the evidence which I now about I will have presented to the pension office
I am Respectfully Sir Your obedt Servt Horace Welch

No answer received

Joseph Welch copy
2757
March 1879

State of New York } County of Saratoga } ss.
On this twenty second day of August eighteen hundred and twenty personally appeared in open court being a court of Common Pleas for the said County Joseph Welch aged eighty four years resident in the Town of Saratoga in said County who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on this oath declare that he served in the Revolutionary War as follows. viz that he the said Joseph Welch in the year 1775 at the Town of Richmond in the County of Richmond in the State of Massachusetts volunteered his services as First Lieutenant in the company of Minutemen commanded by Captain David Rositer in the regiment commanded by Colonel John Patterson that he continued to serve in the said corps for the term of about twelve months that third he received a commission from congress of first Lieutenant in the company commanded by Captain Ebenezer Sullivan in the regiment commanded by the said Colonel John Patterson in the continental establishment that he continued to serve in the said corps as First Lieutenant until the year 1776. when in the Battle at Point Declaw in Canada he was taken prisoner by the British and by them sent to Montreal from then to Quebec from then to Halifax when he was put on board of the British Prison Ship and remained on board of the said Prison Ship nine months after which he was sent to Boston on Parole and remained on parole until the year 1781. when he was called to West Point. when he received an honorable discharge as a Lieutenant in the continental army and that in the year 1775. he was in the Battle of Bunker Hill. and that he made application under the act of congress of the 18 th of March 1818. and received from the war department a certificate allowing him a pension of twenty dollars per month from the 4 th day of April 1818. which certificate is dated the 22 d day of September 1818 and numbered 2757.
And I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18 th of March 1818. and that I have not since that time by Gift Sale or in any manner disposed of

my property or any part thereof with intent thereby to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the Land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war passed the 18 th March 1818. and I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or secured contracts or debts due to me nor have I any income other than what is contained in the schedule here to annexed and by me subscribed. V.B:
  One cow. ————— $15.00 1 candle stick ————— 00. 18.   8 hens ————— 00. 72 2 Hammers & forks ————— 00. 12.   1 Chest ————— 00. 50 1 Pail ————— 00. 18.   2 chains ————— 00. 50 1 Knife Basket ————— 00. 06   1 table ————— 1. 50 1 Salt Mortar ————— 00. 12 3/4   1 Dish Kettle ————— 00. 50 1 Bible ————— 4. 00   1 Tea Kettle. ————— 00. 50 amt. brot up ————— 19. 59   2 plates ————— 00. 12   1 pair Tongs ————— 00. 25   $19.59 $24.25 
And that I have no family depending on me for support except my wife who is seventy nine years old and out of health and unable to labour; also that I am deaf and almost blind and unable to labour and that I am in indigent circumstances and unable to support myself without the assistance of my country and that my occupation has been that of a labourer; Joseph Welch.
Sworn and declared on the twenty second day of August before me in open Court, THOMAS PALMER Clerk.
I Thomas Palmer Clerk of the Court of common Pleas of the County of Saratoga do hereby certify that the foregoing Oath and the schedule thereto annexed are truly copied from the record of the said Court, and I do further certify that it is the opinion of the said Court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule is twenty four dollars & twenty five cents.
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court on this twenty second day of August 18 20 18. THOMAS PALMER, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Saratoga.

to the Department of War of the United States of the number of which the British account Boston
Delivered
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Joseph Welch claims as a First Lieut comm'd by Congress not on Roll.
Admitted
does not appear now in the on Roll. He was several years
If he served he must have belonged to the Brigade of which was the Original
son and left Salem brother to Genl. Sullivan my brother's letter last we have not of the

State of New York
Saratoga County ss Joseph Welch of the Town & County of Saratoga & State of New York Age Eighty one years being Sworn deponeth & saith that he was a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary Army of the United States of America. That he first engaged as such Lieutenant in the American Revolution before the organization of any System of Defense by Congress and for several months anterior to the battle at Lexington in the year 1775 this Deponent belonged to a Regiment commanded by John Patterson of the County of Berkshires & State of Massachusetts as such Lieutenant in a Company commanded by David Rootes. That after the said Battle at Lexington in the same year this Deponent received a Commission as such Lieut in said Regiment & in the same Company but under the command of David Noble, under the Authority of the State of Massachusetts. That in the Spring of the year Seventeen hundred & Seventy six this Deponent received from thereunder the Authority of the United States the Commission of a first Lieutenant in the said Regiment & in a Company commanded by Ebenezer Sullivan. That this Deponent remained in the Service of the United States as first Lieutenant for about three or four years but the precise time this Deponent cannot recollect nor has he the means of ascertaining. That in May Seventeen hundred & Seventy six this Deponent was made Prisoner by the British & Indians at Point St. Claire in Lower Canada and remained a Prisoner of War until about the year Seventeen hundred & Seventy nine when this Deponent was exchanged. That the Commission last mentioned was taken from this Deponent by the Indians at the time he was taken Prisoner. That this Deponent has not any Paper whatever Rela-

time to his appointment Service discharged as such suit as aforesaid - That this Deponent by reason of his reduced circumstances in life stands in need of assistance from his Country for Support
Joseph Welch
State of New York Saratoga County ss. I Thomas Laing one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the County of Saratoga Do Certify that on this seventh day of April Eighteen hundred & Eighteen came before me Joseph Welch to me well known and subscribed the foregoing Affidavit and was sworn by me before me to the truth of the facts therein contained And I do further certify that I consider the said Joseph enti- tled to a pension under the act of Congress passed the present Session for the Relief of Indigent Revolutionary Officers & Soldiers -
Thomas Laing
Seal to a County ss. William Stilwell Clerk of the County of Sa- ratoga do certify that Thomas Laing is a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas of said County and is legally qualified to act as such. and that the above his signa- ture -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of the Court of Common Pleas of said County this Seventh day of April 1818
Wm Stilwell Clerk

Saratoga County is Benjamin Welch of the town of Northumberland County of Saratoga eldest son of Joseph Welch of the Town of Saratoga in said County being sworn says that he is in the fifty sixth year of his age. That the said Joseph Welch entered the Service of the United States at the commencement of the Revolutionary War in the capacity of a Lieutenant. That anterior to said War the said Joseph was a Captain in the militia & went from place to place disciplining the minute men. That said Joseph was as this Deponent has always understood a soldier in the French War. That the said Joseph & his Family resided in the Town of Richmond in the County of Berkshire & State of Massachusetts at the commencement of the American Revolu- tion and during said War belonged to a Compa- -ny commanded at one time by one Rochester and subsequently by Captain Sullivan whose Christian name this Deponent does not recollect That this Deponent remembers Captain Noble but whether he ever commanded the Company to which the said Joseph belonged or not this Deponent cannot declare That this Deponent also remembers that Col Patterson commanded a Regiment in Berkshire County but cannot declare that said Joseph belonged to said Regiment That the said Joseph after the Battle of Bunker Hill (in which he was as this Deponent then & since has understood engaged) repeatedly came home sometimes

from his Regiment & at other times from the recruiting Service. That Between the time of the Battle at Bunkers Hill & the taking of Burgoyne, the said Joseph went from his residence to Kinderhook accompanied by this Deponent who returned with the horses. That the said Joseph was then on his way to New York to join his Regiment. That shortly after the said Joseph came home and this Deponent again took him to Kinderhook from whence he proceeded with his Regi- ment on their way to Canada. That shortly after this Deponent heard of the defeat of the Americans at a place called the Cedars in Canada & that the said Joseph was taken Prisoner by the Indians. That about one year afterwards and while the militia were proceeding to the north to arrest the progress of Burgoyne's Army the said Joseph returned home by the way of Boston, a Prisoner on Parol. That sometime afterwards there was a general order that all officers on Parol should return into captivity. When the said Joseph left home for New York and in a few days returned with his Discharge & informed his Family that he had been to West Point where Genl Washington had ordered another officer to go to New York in lieu of the said Joseph. That the said Joseph has Eleven Children, and are all in indigent Circumstances. That the said Joseph in the opinion of this Deponent stands in need of Assistance from his country for sup- port. That the said Joseph & his wife the Depo-

exists in other reside on of claim title to Sixty acres of Land. but that the same is encumbered to near its value as this Deponent understands of believes —
Benjamin Welch
State of New York
Saratoga County ss I Harvey Granger one of the Justices of the peace in & for the County of aforesaid Do Certify that on this Twenty ninth Day of July Eighteen hundred & Eighteen came before me Benjamin Welch to me well known to be the person described to the truth of the above Affidavit by him subscribed & that I believe the above Affidavit to be true and considered the said Benjamin a disinterested & credible Witness.
Harvey Granger Justice of the Peace
Saratoga County ss Daniel Reddington of the Town of County of Saratoga being sworn says that he is in the fifty sixth year of his age. That before and during the Revolutionary War he resided in the Town of Richmand County of Berkshire & State of Massachu- setts about one mile and an half distant from the residence of the above named Joseph Welch with whom this Deponent was well acquainted That this Deponent moved into the Town of Saratoga a year ago last Spring. That for thirty years past this Deponent had not seen the said Joseph until last Spring

When this Deponent recognized him. That the said  said Welch was  was anterior to the American Revolution commanded a Company of minute men and that before the Battle of Lexington apprehending a war with Great Britain the said Welch for pasture had also collected the Boys of the neighborhood not then capable of engaging into active Service, into a Company, and disciplined them in performing the manual exercise of marching to which Company of Boys this Deponent belonged until the commencement of hostilities When the said Welch joined his Regiment as a Lieutenant in the Service of the United States That this Deponent knew Captain Roester & Captain Nobbs and Lieut. Smith and understood that they belonged to the same Company with said Welch That this Deponent well remembers the Report and general understanding in the neighborhood of said Welch shortly after he went into the Service that he was taken prisoner by the Indians and that within two or three years after his engaging in said Service he returned as a Prisoner on Parole And that before the close of the War it was reported & generally understood that said Welch was exchanged & discharged and afterwards remained at home.
Daniel Reddington
Saratoga County ss
Harvey Granger one of the Justices of the Peace in & for said County do certify that on this twelfth day of August Eighteen hundred and Eighteen came before me Daniel Reddington to me known to be the person described in and who executed the above Affidavit by him subscribed and that I believe the above Affidavit to be true and consider the said Daniel as a disinterested & credible witness.
Harvey Granger Justice of the Peace

Saratoga County I Thomas Palmer Clerk of the County of Saratoga Do certify that Harvey Granger is one of the Justices of the peace of said County and is legally qualified to act as such and that his Signa- ture as such Justice is subscribed to the annexed affidavits of Benjamin Welch and Daniel Reddington In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of the Court of Common Pleas of said County this thirteenth day of August 1810 —
Thomas Palmer Clerk

May 20, 1932
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JOSEPH WELCH
S. 44029
Mrs. A. F. Reesman 609 Harrison Avenue Beloit, Wisconsin
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter relative to Joseph Welch, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.
The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S. 44029, based upon the military service of Joseph Welch in the Revolutionary War.
While living in Richmond, Berkshire County, Massachusetts, he volunteered his services in 1775 several months prior to the battle of Lexington as lieutenant in a company of minutemen commanded by Captain David Rosseter in Colonel John Paterson's Massachusetts regiment; soon after the battle of Lexington he was commissioned by the State of Massachusetts as lieutenant in said regiment in a company commanded by Captain David Noble, was in the battle of Bunker Hill and served about twelve months in all. In the spring of 1776 he was commissioned as 1 st lieutenant in Captain Ebenezer Sullivan's company in Colonel John Paterson's Massachusetts regiment; in May, 1776, he was taken prisoner by the British and Indians at the battle The Cedars in lower Canada, was sent to Montreal, from there to Quebec, then to Halifax where he was held on a prison ship for nine months, was then sent to Boston and returned home and remained a prisoner on parole until 1781 when he was called to West Point, was exchanged and discharged.
It was stated that he also served in the French and Indian War, no details of the service given.
He was allowed pension on his application executed April 7, 1818, while a resident of Saratoga, Saratoga County, New York, aged eighty-one years.

In 1820 Joseph Welch referred to his wife aged seventy-nine years, but did not state her name, nor the date of their marriage.
He died February 15, 1825.
The soldier had eight sons and four daughters; the names of the sons are as follows:
Benjamin Welch, the oldest, aged fifty-five years in 1818 and living in Northumberland, Saratoga County, New York.
Elisha " Hazleton " Jedediah " Asa " Freeborn " Joseph " Stephen "
The names of the daughters were not given.
In 1855, Horace Welch, soldier's grandson (son of Stephen) was living in Caldwell, Warren County, New York.
There are no further family data on file.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

Sir, I return the Documents in the case of Joseph Welch a Revolutionary Officer with the further Evidence required. The Papers in the case of Philip Caldwell of John Ward of the 1st New York Regiment are Recd - the first returned "Correct" (without a Pension Certificate accompanying them). The latter "incorrect" for the wants of the Judge's Certificate as to the soldier's indigent circumstances. The Certificate was drawn up ready to the inclosed printed directions from your Department. The Judge is now out of office. Must the proceedings commenced be now - or will other evidence as to his circumstances be received. Please to instruct me on this subject. On the papers in the two last cases I discover two errors perhaps unimportant. - The Judge is named John, instead of the  Livingston - my first initial B instead of R . ..
Yours &c. &c. R. M. Livingston 11th Augt 1810 -

Revolutionary
Joseph Welch
N.Y. - Oct 18 th , 1818
Cale
Rev. E. Dodd M. Rev.

Washington Feby 15. 1856
W m Sam l . Cole -
Can you inform me of the time that Joseph Welch, who was an Ensign or Lieutenant in the Massachusetts line, during the war of the Revolution, held a commission and how long he was in service.
R
Respy. Yours E Dodd

EVANSTON, ILLINOIS, October 7, 1895.
Commissioner of Pensions,
Dear Sir:
I have been referred to you by the office of the Secretary of War for certain information which I desire. I wish a certified copy of the proof offered in support of his claim for a pension by Lieut. Joseph Welch, who was placed on the roll of pensioners as an old Revolutionary soldier under the act of 1818. He appears on the Pension Roll ( 23d Congress, 1st Session, Senate document no. 514 ), vol. 2, p. 233, his name being given under Saratoga County, New York, but as having been in the Massachusetts line of service. I suppose that you will have this proof on file, as the act of 1818 required the proof to be sent to Washington. If you can furnish anything from the records in your office in addition to the pension proof it will be very useful.
Yours respectfully,
Lodilla Ambrose
Asst. Librarian.
Box 185.

NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY LIBRARY.
Oct. 22, 1895
EVANSTON, ILLINOIS,.....189
William Lochren,
Commissioner of Pensions,
Dear Sir:
Please accept sincere thanks for the information given in yours of Oct. 17 regarding the pension proof of Joseph Welch, a Revolutionary lieutenant in the Massachusetts line of service, living at Saratoga, N.Y., when pensioned. This is very satisfactory as far as it goes. It would be a matter of considerable interest to me to have an exact copy of the application for pension on file in your Bureau, even though it did not give any more actual information than what you have already sent me. If any fee is required for a full copy, I will pay it. I would like very much a certified copy of the document itself. If I could get it at once, it would be a great accommodation.
Yours respectfully,
Lodilla Ambrose
Asst. Librarian.
Box 185.

NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY LIBRARY.
EVANSTON, ILLINOIS.
J 44029
Nov. 5
William Lochren,
Commissioner of Pensions,
Dear Sir:
I have received yours of October 29. Permit me to say that I am a direct descendant of Lieut. Joseph Welch, and that I asked for a copy of his pension papers because I am very much interested in learning all I can of early family history. I am glad to avail myself of your offer to give additional information from his papers. Whatever records he may have had himself have disappeared.
Do his papers give the date when he first enlisted as a minute-man? I know he was a minute-man before the regiment was formed by Col. John Patterson to join the Continental Army.

What is the exact date of his being taken prisoner? What is the date of his parole? Do his papers give any facts about him while he was on parole, or while he was a prisoner?
Did he have an individual discharge, or was he discharged with all the rest because of the close of the Revolution?
I shall be greatly obliged for information on any of these points, or for any other facts which his papers furnish which you have not already sent me.
Yours respectfully, Lodilla Ambrose Asst. Librarian
Box 185

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WORTHINGTON, PENNSYLVANIA NOV 7 1895 U.S. POSTAL OFFICE WORTHINGTON UNIVERSITY LIBRARY
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DELAWARE, OHIO, April 12, 1906.
Burt P. Benton, Esq.,
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:-
I want to learn all I can of Joseph Welch. All I know of him I had from my grandfather, who said he was a captain of a company of infantry in the Revolutionary army. When the war commenced he was selected as captain of the company that was made up of volunteers of the same community in which he lived. He wore a military uniform with silver knee and shoe buckles.
He was captured by the Indians on one occasion and was among them about a year before he escaped. These are all the facts I know of him. I do not know what state he lived in, probably New York or Massachusetts. It may possibly have been Connecticut.
I have been told that another ancestor, whose name was Fulkard Sebring, was in the revolutionary army. He was a native of Pennsylvania or New Jersey, probably Pennsylvania. Fulkard is the Dutch for Francis. He was of Dutch lineage and spoke imperfect English to the time of his death, and was known as Fulkard Sebring.
Any information received of either or both of the above named persons, will be greatly appreciated by me.
Yours sincerely,
E. M. Wickham M-

F
Mr. Bryant Chief, Old War and Navy Division:
Here is a request for information as to the records of Revolutionary ancestors, and if you have anything on file in relation to the parties named, you may give the desired information by mail to Burt P. Benton, Room 7, Postal Telegraph Building, this City.
The gentleman named is secretary to Hon. R. D. Cole.
J. L. Davenport First Deputy Commissioner.

Belmont, N. Y. Rev Sec April, 10, 1916. Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir: —
Will you please send me in full the record of Joseph Welsh. Saratoga N. Y. who served in the Revolutionary War. I am of lineal descent and the purpose for which the information is desired is to secure official proof so that I may become a member of the D. A. R.
My lineal descent is: — Joseph Welsh, Eliza Welsh Benjamin Welsh, Wesley Welsh Elmer Welsh, Ruth Welsh Lucken
Yours Truly (Mrs) Ruth Welsh Lucken
Box 294 Belmont N. Y.

McNeany Dry Goods Co.
DRY GOODS : : READY-TO-WEAR FLOOR COVERING
BELOIT, WISCONSIN
April 6, 1932
Bureau of Pensions Washington D. C.
Gentlemen:
In order that I may be admitted to the Daughters of the American Revolution, it is necessary for me to secure data concerning one Joseph Welch , from Richmond, Mass., who served in Capt. David Noble's company of Minute Men and militia, Col. John Paterson's regt. He was a pensioner when he died in Saratoga County New York in 1825.
Is the date of his marriage given in his pension papers? I am also anxious to learn the maiden name of his wife Eunice. I would appreciate any information stated in his papers.
Yours very truly,
Alice Stand Reesman
AFR:DL Encl.

44029
INVALID.
Rev
File No. 44.029
Joseph Welch Lieut Genl Mv
Act: 18 March 18 th
Index:—Vol. 3 , Page 552
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Oct. 17/93 Hish. to Lodiella Ambrose, N.W. University Library, Evanston Ill. M.L.
Nov. 18/93 Letter to Lodiella Ambrose, Box 115, Evanston Ill. M.L.
1906 April 18. History of E. M. Fishman, Cur. Burt P. Benton, M. B. H.
1916 Apr 19. History to Ruth W. Leeker. M. B. H. 1932 - May 12 - Hist. Alice Ekrd Peelman. M. B. H.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Joseph Welch a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. S. 44029.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     1775 1 yr 1 Lt David Rootbeler John Paterson Mass.   David Noble " "   Spring 1776 Ebenezer Bullman " "    in May 1776 at Point Defiance Lower Canada was taken Prisoner by the Indians and Br. was sent to Montreal, Quebec and Halifax. There put on parole for 9 mos, sent to Boston on parole where he remained until 1781 when he was called to Fort Point and discharged   
Battles engaged in, December Hill
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Richmond, Berkshire Co Mass.
Date of application for pension, Apr. 7. 12 12 His claim was allowed
Residence at date of application, Saratoga, Saratoga Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, 81 years.
Remarks: in 1818 soldier's wife was 79 years of age, name not stated
Sons: Benjamin 55 years in 1818; Elisha; Hazleton; Jedediah; Ara; Freeborn; Joseph; Stephen; he had four daughters, names not stated.
Grandson (son of Stephen) Horace Welch was a resident of Caldwell, Warren Co. N.Y. in 1855.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.