Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11725, John Webb, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Webb, John
S. 11725-
CONTENTS
carded

8644
New York
John Webb
of Genesee Co in the State of New York who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Barnett of the 2nd Regt commanded by _____ in the N. Y. Mil. for 8 mos.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 26 Dollars 66 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 22 day of Ap r 1833 and sent to Corporal H. Soper Batavia
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $53.32 Semest. allowance ending 4 Sept - 13.33 $66.65
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. L. Williams Clerk Book E Vol. 4 Page 35
Letter to Mr. Farguhar April 12, 1850
to Hon George Briggs 28 May 1852 to Mr. [unclear] Oct 5, 1850

John Webber application
18370
Please make returns to Horace H. Soper Batavia Genesee Co. N.Y.
admitted
8 mo. private

State of New York Seneca County
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned Justice of the Peace in and for the county of Seneca, John Nibbs who being duly sworn deposes and saith, that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following order—
That his services were of such nature, standing as minute man and being out constantly upon alarm, that he cannot recollect all the terms of his service but fully believes that he served at least one year but when he made his declaration he swore only to six months' service—
That during the summer of 1776 he belonged to a company commanded by Capt Charles Hutchinson as stated in his declaration, that he served as a private in his company during the summer and fall of that year at least three months and went to Fort Edward and Fort Miller and was stationed there most of the time.
That during the summer of 1777 the Captain of his company was John Barnett or Barnes— that his other officers were the same as they were before that he served as a private and was at Pkeepsburgh, Sailew and Fort Edward and other places but was not attached to any Regiment and served at least two months.
That during the summer of 1778 he thinks his Captain was John Armstrong, that he served as private and was at Fort Edward, Fort George, Crown Point and other places, but was not attached to any Regiment, neither had he any Regimental officers and served at least two months.
That he was not attached to any Regiment neither had he any Regimental officers at any time or period of his service—
And it is for these services I claim

a justice.
John Kirtland
Sworn to and Subscribed This 27 th March 1833 before me John D. Safford Justice of the Peace
State of New York } Genesee County ss }
I Timothy Fitch Clerk of said county certify that John D. Safford before whom the foregoing affidavit purports to have been taken and made was at the date of taking the same a Justice of the Peace in and for said county and that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of said Justice and verily believe his signature subscribed to said affidavit is genuine -
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my name and seal of office this twenty seventh day of March 1833
Timothy Fitch Clerk

Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832
State of New York Genesee County ss } On this Sixteenth day of October 1832 personally appeared in open Court, before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas, now sitting at the town of Batavia in said County, (the said Court being a Court of record and having a seal) John Webb, a resident of the town of Pembroke in the County of Genesee and State of New York aged Seventytwo years the 7 th day of March last who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832 —
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated —
In the year 1776 I resided in the town of Salem in the County of Washington and State of New York, Some time in the fore part of Summer the precise time I cannot recollect, I volunteered as a private in a company of Militia commanded by Capt Charles Hutchinson. The Lieutenants name was Alexander Turner, and the Ensign James Stewart, I do not recollect the names of any field officers except I think that John Williams of Salem was the Brigadier General of the Militia in that part of the country I was out a number of times in the course of the Year but have not any distinct recollection how many times I was out or how long. I recollect our company was called to Skeneborough once in the course of the Summer and I think we went once or twice to Fort Edward. In the Year 1777 I again volunteered in a company of Militia

commanded I think by John Barnett, I have no recollection of the names of any other officers. I think Genl. Williams was still the General. Our company was engaged a part of the time in guarding the frontier, I recollect we were at Skenesborough, and also at Fort Edward but have no recollection as to the time. In the course of the summer our company marched to Salem where we assisted in building a picket fort and remained in charge of it, after it was completed, but do not recollect how long. Capt. McCallen had the charge of building the fort as near as I can recollect, In 1778 I again volunteered but do not recollect the names of the officers commanding the company. I recollect our company marched some time in the latter part of summer to Lake George landing where we were some time engaged in preparing batteries in order to go down the Lake, While there Genl. George Clinton, Governor of the state of New York arrived and took the command. We embarked in our batteries and went down the lake to Siconderoga; remained there a short time and then marched by land to Crown Point. On arriving at that place we obtained in- formation that the enemy had retreated in- to Canada, We then returned by the way of Siconderoga and were dismissed. The coun- try where I resided was in a state of alarm during the whole war and I was out more or less while it continued but have not any distinct recollection of what took place sub- sequent to the year last mentioned I am not state the precise time that I was out but am firmly convinced that I was out six months in

the whole, I never received any written discharge for my services and I have no written or documentary proof whatever, nor do I know of any person whose testimony I can procure who will testify to my services. I have a record of my age in the family bible which is the only one I know of. I was born on the 7 th day of March 1760 in the town of New Rutland in the State of Massachusetts. When I was about five years old my Father moved to the town of Salem in the County of Washington and State of New York, where I resided till the year 1815 when I removed to the town of Pembroke aforesaid where I now reside.
Rev. Hugh Wallis and live in the neighborhood where I reside and have been acquainted with me for a number of years and can testify as to my character and to their belief of my services. I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State - John Webb Sworn and subscribed } the day and year aforesaid } in open court
Timothy Fitch Clerk
We Hugh Wallis a clergyman residing in the town of Pembroke in the County of Genesee - and State of New York and James Anderson Jun. residing in the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Webb who has sub- scribed and sworn to the above declaration.
Hugh Wallis James Anderson Jun.

that we believe him to be Seventy two years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier in the revolution and that we concur in that opinion - Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court
Timothy Fitch clerk
And I further certify that the said Hugh Wallis & James Anderson has subscribed their names in the middle of the foregoing certificate by mistake & that they both swore to the whole of the said certificate in due form - dated March 30. 1833 T. Fitch Clerk.
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary Soldier and that he served as he states. And the court further certify that it appears to them that Hugh Wallis who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman resident in the town of Pembroke in said county and that James Anderson Junior who has also signed the same resident in the same place is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
Isaac Wilson
Robert Clarke
William Mitchell
Timothy Fitch, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Genesee do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of John Webb for a pension and I further certify that the names of Hugh Wallis and James Anderson Jun, who have signed the above certificate, were put in the wrong place by accident and mistake

In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of my office this 16 th day of October 1832.
Timothy Fitch clerk

Mr Webb of New York admitted
56. 11. 1617 Yucatan
July 15 Recorded Page 235
Mr P. L. Wacey

BRIEF in the case of  Rev Webb of Pumbroke  of  Jerusalem  in the State of  New York  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 72 - 7th March last  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 1777 As a Gen. Capt Brant. Genl Williams   1778 Genl Clinton   1779 Capt Hutchinson. Genl Williams.   Firmly convinced he was out 6 months in the whole.  
 5. In what battles was he engaged?  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Washington County New York  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Defective as to service & service not stated as req. 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
J. Mahon Examining Clerk.  July 22 1833

Ref. and 1813 Wars Section.
aug
June 22, 1927
The American Historical Society, Inc. Eighty East Eleventh St New York City
Sir:
I have to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 11725. it appears that John Webb was born March 7, 1760 in New Rutland, Massachusetts.
His father (name not stated) moved when he was five he was five years old to Salem years old to Salem Washington County, New York, and he resided there when he served in the War of the Revolution, as follows- He was a minute-man and was called out at various times, in the summer of 1776 in Captain Charles Hutchinson's Company, in the summer of 1777 in Captain John Barnet and Barnes' Company, and in the summer of 1778 in Captain John Armstrong's Company, all service in the New York Militia, and amounting to about one year.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 16, 1832, while a resident of Pembroke, Genesee County, New York. There is no further data as to family.
Respectfully
WINFIELD SCOTT Commissioner.

464779 11725
REVOLUTIONARY SERVICE.
O. W. & N. Div.
MEMORANDA.
W
Please supply as much as possible of the data called for below.
Full name of soldier:
John Webb.
Place of residence before service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.)
Salem Washington Co. N.Y.
Place of residence after service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.)
Pembroke Genesee Co. N.Y.
Date of death (as near as possible):
Between 1850 and 1860
Christian name of widow:
Susan Atkinson.
Did either he or his widow receive a pension?
He rec'd a pension
Remarks:
These memoranda are not absolutely correct but are as near as can be obtained.
Your name and address:
Mrs W. H. Lyman Kewanee Henry Co Illinois

White River Junction July 11, 1895.
Mr William Lochren.
Dear Sir,
Will you kindly enlighten me as far as possible with regard to the military history of John Webb born I think in Salmon Washington Co. N. Y. who fought in the Revolution and received a

Pensboro
Very respectfully Elizabeth Lyman
Mrs W. H. Lyman White River Junction Vermont Kewanee Henry Co Illinois

OLD WAR & NAVY JUL 16 1895 PENSION SEP 5 U. S. OFFICE
PENSION A JUL 13 U. S. 1895 OFFICE

Letter of Apr 12, 50
State John Webb was placed on roll Apr 22, 1853
That he was never on before &
"The paper is set out herein"

of Congress at the same time, and it is necessary to limit calls to the Member from the claimant's district.
Trusting this will meet your approval, I am,
Your obedient servant,
Commissioner.

Letter May 28, 1858
Says I herewith - Return the letter of Mr Daniel Palmer in the case of John Webb And enclose blank forms of vouchers for drawing arrears of pension which may be due

Letter
Oct 5, 1850
says that John Webb formerly of Genesee Co N.Y. has been paid his pension to Mch 4, 1850 & That it commence on Mch 4, 1831 and his name inscribed on roll Apr 22, 1833
That this man never acquired any right to B.L. because he was in the N.Y. Mil and none but those who enlisted for during war and served to the end thereof in 1783 were entitled to B.L.

83.25 15.90 67.35
43 4.41 38.59
417.75 1.74 700
92.59 4.41 93.00
125 65 77
19.65 5.83 68

Albany Rail. Act of June 1832 John Wells. On $25,000 per annum To what time last paid?
3 rd Auditor's Office                      Sept 4, 1849.      C

Washington Sep 25/50
Home of Refiner
Dear Sir
If you can satisfy the information desired, I shall be much obliged.
Yours Respectfully James Brooks

file with John Webb papers, -

House of Rep. May 25/50 Hon J. S. Edwards
Dear Sir
Enclosed you will
than find letter of Daniel John wanting information in behalf of Margaret Webb
Kindly return Mr John's letter with your answer
I avail myself of this opportunity of again calling your attention to the case of Polly Marshall for full pension whose papers I transmitted to you for your decision near the close of the session, I fear the old woman will die off before her case is decided
Respectfully Yours Sincerely Geo. Briggs

Perhag
11725 INVALID.
File No. 11725
John H. H. Dist. Rail. War.
Act: June 19 th 1882
Index:—Vol. A , Page 399
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Sept. Lyman
17/95 Hist. to Mrs. N. H. Kewanee Ill. Mich. 1928-June 22- Helt' Co. Amer. Hist. Soc. Inc. Aug.

PUBLISHERS OF HISTORIES GENEALOGIES BIOGRAPHIES HERALDRY
Ans. 9/2/27
The American Historical Society, Inc. EIGHTY EAST ELEVENTH STREET
TELEPHONE STUYVESANT { 4352 4353 4354
NEW YORK, June 6, 1927.
Commissioner of Pensions Department of the Interior Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
We are compiling a genealogy for a member of the Webb family and would like to obtain the war record of John Webb. We understand that he made application for a pension in 1832 from Pembroke, N. Y.
He was born March 7, 1760, and first entered the Revolution under Captain Charles Hutchinson, enlisting from Salem, N. Y. in 1776, and serving three months. Again in 1777 for two months under Captain John Barnett, and in 1778 for two months under Captain John Armstrong.
We should also like to know his birthplace. We understand that it has been given as New Rutland, Mass. However, we find that there is no such place as New Rutland, Mass., so it must be in error.
Thanking you for anearly reply, we are
Yours very truly,
THE AMERICAN HISTORICAL SOCIETY, Inc.
M. M. Lewis up
KvR

PUBLISHERS OF HISTORIES GENEALOGIES BIOGRAPHIES HERALDRY
The American Historical Society, Inc. EIGHTY EAST ELEVENTH STREET
TELEPHONE STUYVESANT } 4352 } 4353 } 4354
NEW YORK, June 20, 1927.
Lyman-AF-CFR-#82
Commissioner of Pensions Dept. of the Interior, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:-
We are compiling a genealogy for a member of the Webb family and are very anxious to secure the full pension record of John Webb. He was a pensioner in 1832 from Salem, Washington County, N.Y.
Thanking you for an early reply, we are
Yours very truly,
THE AMERICAN HISTORICAL SOCIETY, Inc.
M. M. Lewis VP.
R:D

Apr. 16
To Hon. J. D. Sleeper. Mission office Washington D.C.
Ms 11.1.2

Bataavia, New York, March 29- 1833-
To, J. L. Edwards, Pension office, Sir,
I now enclose the Pension Papers of John Webb amended. — He cannot remedy the first objection in any other way than he has done by his additional affidavit. I did not draw up his papers in the first instance. — but I am well acquainted with him and have conversed with him now for a long time for the purpose of refreshing his recollection. his memory appears to be very much impaired — he says what he does with great caution and is very anxious to say nothing more than he recollects positively. — I put his statements of services in each of the three years during which he served at the lowest possible time to entitle him to a small pension to relieve the wants of his old age. He says he served more than a year was out a great many times and for different lengths of time but can not specify them in any more particular manner than at present is stated in his affidavit. —
2 o Objection. — That Clergymen and other witnesses do not certify as to their beliefs, By reference to signature of Clerk you will perceive that the affidavit applies to the entire certificate and that the witnesses in the hurry of many applications made a mistake in putting their signatures to Certificate. — The new aside at some distance will could not be procured again without some considerable expense. —
If these objections are obviated obviated I think his papers will be found to be correct —
I am Your Ob t Serv t —
Horace W. Dyer

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
WASHINGTON, D. C. July 18, 1895.
O. W. & N. Div.
FL S.
M. E. C.
Madam:
Replying to your communication requesting the military history of John Webb, a soldier of the Revolutionary war, you are advised that the data given is not sufficient to enable this Bureau to make a satisfactory search for his services. For purposes of identification you will please fill out the enclosed slip as fully as possible, and return the same, together with your letter of July 11th.
Very respectfully,
A handwritten signature in cursive, appearing to read "D. D. M." followed by a stylized, illegible surname.
Acting Commissioner.
Mrs. W. H. Lyman,
White River Junction,
Vermont.