Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 17790, John Winchel, Conn.

SERVICE
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Winchel, John
S. 17790
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17836
Connecticut
John Winchel
of Torrington in the State of Conn who was a Pri - in the Conn commanded by Captain _____ of the Regt commanded by Col Smith in the Conn Troops time for 13 mo 14 dys -
Inscribed on the Roll of Conn at the rate of 44 Dollars 88 Cents per annum. to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 27 day of Sept 1833 and Rent - O. S. Joy Mauer Litchfield Ct Arrears to the 4th of Sept. 1833 $ 122.10 Semi-ant. allowance ending Mar. 6 - 22.44 $144.64
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by E. D. Buelock Clerk Book E Vol. 3 Page 47
Dead. Letter to David M. Cattan & Co. to pay. 23 Feb 1842

9473
To Michael Connecticut
Return
MS
13 m 1/2 day private
44.88
A. S. Seymour Litchfield Conn.

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
7 th June 1833
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjunct notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of John March Litchfield Co Connecticut
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Enlist 1778 time Not stated Capt Gillet Col. Ennis Horse JA Gann   (accurately) Neck Hamington Traditionary   Sub. 1779 time Not stated Wright Bradley White Plains Connecticut Evidence   Traf. 1780 d Stoddard Genl. Huntington Westport 13 (Clancey)   " 1780 d Wall Col. Buel Stoney Point   Head North River to Morris Town   Horse Neck  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.
The length of each term of service not stated

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, is a clergyman, resident in the
and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith,eth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
☞ The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

9473
John Winchel
8976 22246 122 20
cult Sep 13 79 dis July 15, 80
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Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832,
State of Connecticut } vs Court of Probate for the District County of Litchfield. } and in the County of Litchfield
On this 18 day of August 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Hon Court of Probate for the District of Litchfield in said County non sitting. John Winchell a resident of Torrington in said County aged 70 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832 That he entered the service of the United States under the following named Officers & served as herein stated
I was born in Torrington aforesaid Feb'y 2 d 1762 but have no record of my age. I resided in said Torrington when I entered the service of the United States as herein after specified and have there resided since the Revolution. any War and still do reside there till within about thirty years, since which time I have resided in Harwinton Connect, a part of the time, a part in Torrington, a part of the time in the State of New York. I now reside near the townline between Torrington & Harwinton
In March 1778 I enlisted for one year in Capt Gillet's company Col Enos Regt Connecticut State troops. The Officers of the company were Lieut Burr and Ensign Wright. The Officers of the Regt were Lieut Col Smith. Major Curtiss. By the terms of our enlistment we were compellable to perform actual service only three months at one time but after returning home we were again liable to be called into actual service if the circumstances of the Country demanded it. We were to receive half pay when not

in actual service. It is my belief that I was in actual service through the whole year with the exception of a short period not more than a month in Sept or Oct 1778.
Soon after my enlistment I marched with my Company to Horse Neck and was there employed in keeping guards & in small parties upon the lines. We then marched the White Plains where there were many Continental troops but I cannot remember the Regt. We here did duty with the Continentals. From White Plains I went with the Regt. to West Point and was there employed in constructing defences for that place. In Sept having been more than three months in actual service I took advantage of my privilege to return home and was at home I think less than a month when I was again called on and joined the Regt. at Horse Neck here I continued in service as I believe until the termination of my enlistment at any rate until I was discharged by a general order. Of this period I have no documentary evidence but have the evidence of two members of the same company Harvey Whiting & Reuben Palmer whose affidavits are herewith sent, which is the only testimony I am able to procure.
In the spring of 1779. I went into the Continental service as a substitute for Joshua C Seach in Capt Wright's Company, Col Bradley's Regt, Gen Huntington's Brigade. During the summer & fall we were stationed mostly at Stony Point on the North River, until we went into winter quarters at Morristown, where we built huts

for our accommodation. We were discharged in February I think. I believe I had a written discharge, but I cannot tell by whom it was signed, & I am not able to produce it, it being lost. On our discharge we were ordered to carry our arms to Disbkill, to be deposited there. I have no documentary evidence of this service but send herewith the affidavit of Return Bissel to substantiate my statement which is the only evidence of this service I am able to procure. I believe this was in the year 1779-80, but of this I will not speak with certainty, as it might have been in some other year.
In the winter of 1780. I was drafted into Capt Bryant's Stoddard's Comp y , Lieut Lyman to go to Horse Neck. We kept guard for three months, were out on frequent scouting parties, had no skirmishes of importance. We were attached to Col Beebe's Reg t I believe. I was discharged by parole. I have no documentary evidence of this service but send herewith the affidavit of Reuben Palmer who was with me in the service, & this is the only evidence of this service I am able to procure.
In the fall of 1779 or 1780, the latter I think I was drafted to go to Horse Neck. I went in Capt Asaph Hall's Company. The names of the other officers of the Comp y I do not remember. Col Mead commanded a Reg t there at that time but I am not able to say whether we were attached to his Reg t or not. Of this service I send the affidavit of Reuben Palmer, which is the only evidence I have & can procure of this service.
I am known to the Rev David Miller & William Battell Esqrs of Torrington Ct. who can testify to my character for truth & of their belief of my services.

I hereby relinquish every claim whatsoever to any annuity or pension except the present & declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state.
John Winchel
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid before me
Precedrick Wolcott, Judge of Probate, District of Litchfield, State of Conn te .
or

Mr. David Miller _____ a clergyman residing in the town of Torrington County, New Hartford County _____ and William Battell residing in said town of Torrington. hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Mr. John Winchel _____ who has subscribed hereto to the above declaration; that we believe him to be 70 years of age; that he is respected and believed in the neigh- borhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion. I saw and subscribed before me David Miller William Battell Frederick Wolcott, Judge of Probate District of Litchfield, County _____
In the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories presented by the War Depart- ment, that the above named applicant, was a Revolu- tionary soldier, and served as he states, and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that the Rev. David Miller _____ who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident and is the nearest clergyman to said applicant in said town of Torrington New Hartford _____ and that William Battell Esquire _____ who has also signed the same is a resident in said town of Torrington _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit. Frederick Wolcott, Judge of Probate District of Litchfield, County _____

I, Nicholas Oliver, Clerk of the Court of Probate for the district of Litchfield, in the County of Litchfield do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the ap- plication of Peter Wanshall for a Pension —
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand, and the seal of the said Court This 18 th day of Augt. 1832
Nicholas Oliver Clerk
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File No. 17.790
John Winchel
Dis. Rev. War
Act: June 7 th 82
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 419
[Arrangement of 1870.]

John Winchell's affidavit, supplementary to his declaration,
See the report, page

State of Connecticut County of Litchfield ss Litchfield June 18 th 1833
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in & for the said County, John Winchel of Torrington in said County of Litchfield, who being duly sworn deponeth & saith, that by reason of old age, & the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; In Capt Gillet's company I was in the actual service of the United States (as detailed in my declaration made before the Hon Court of Probate for the District of Litchfield on the 18 th day of Aug t 1832) the full period of six months . My impression & belief is, & as has been, since my attention has been called to the subject, that I served in that company one full year with the exception of about a month, but I dare not swear positively that I served more than six months & claim a pension for that period only in that Company.
In Capt Wright's company I was in the actual service of the United States, the full period of nine months, as detailed in said declaration. -
In Capt Bryant Stoddard's company I was in the actual service of the United States, the full period of two months, as detailed in said declaration.

In Capt Asaph Hall's company I was in the actual service of the United States the full period of six weeks, as stated in said declaration.
In all the aforesaid services I acted as a private,
In the whole then for eighteen months & 12 days I served as private & for this service I claim a pension.
Sworn to & subscribed the said 18 th day of June 1833.
John Mitchell
Before me Origen S. Seymour Justice of the Peace.
Litchfield County p Litchfield June 18. 1833.
I Frederick Wolcott Clerk of the County Court in & for the County of Litchfield, hereby certify that Origen S. Seymour Esquire, before whom the foregoing affidavit is made, is, & for more than a year last past has been, a Justice of the Peace for said County, duly authorized to administer administer oaths, & that the signature of said Justice is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of said Court, this 18 th day of June A D 1833.
Frederick Wolcott, Clerk.

158 I Reuben Palmer of Norfolk in the County of Litchfield and State of Connecticut aged 71 years being duly sworn do on my oath depose and say that in the spring of 1778 I enlisted for one year into Capt Gillet's company, Col Eros' Regt of Connecticut State troops. I know that Mr John Winckel of Torrington in said County, was a member of the same company and was in the actual service of the United States during the whole of two tours of duty of three months each performed by said company. The first tour commenced in May or June 1778 and we were then stationed at Horse Neck, New Pitt, White Plains & West Point. The second tour commenced in October I think 1778. In this tour we were stationed at Old Greenwich Court.
In February 1780. I was drafted in Capt Bryant Stoddard's Company, Lieut Lyman, to go to Horse Neck. We kept guard there three months. I know that the above named John Winckel was there in the service of the United States, & in the same company during the whole period of three months.
In Oct 1779 I think, perhaps in 1780. I was drafted to go to Horse Neck in Capt Asaph Hall's Company of Gothen Ct. for a tour of six weeks. I know that the aforesaid John Winckel was there in the service of the United States & served through the whole six weeks in the same company. ✓ Reuben Palmer
Litchfield County p Litchfield Aug. 13. 1832
Then personally appeared Reuben Palmer to me known as a credible person & made solemn oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit by him in my presence subscribed before me Eugene S. Seymour Justice of the Peace

I Harvey Whiting of New Hartford in the County of Litchfield of State of Connecticut aged 71 years, being duly sworn do on my oath depose & say that in March 1778 I enlisted for one year into Capt Gillet's Company, Col Eno's Regt of Connecticut State troops. I know that Mr. John Winchel of said Torrington in said County was a member of the same Company and was in the actual service of the United States during the whole of two tours of duty of three months each performed by said Company. The first tour commenced in June 1778  1777 and we were then stationed at San Pills, White Plains, & West Point. The second tour commenced in October 1778  1777 or perhaps as late as November. We were then stationed at Old Greenwich Ct. — The above facts I testify from personal knowledge. —
[I also know that said Winchel did duty one month at Horse Neck in the summer of 1779. I was with him in the same Company to wit Capt. Phelps Company, Col Adams Regt. We were drafted at this time. These facts I also testify from personal knowledge.]
Harvey Whiting
Litchfield County p Litchfield Aug. 3. 1882
Then personally appeared Harvey Whiting to me known to be a credible person & made solemn oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit by him in my presence subscribed
Before me
Oligen S. Seymour Justice of the Peace

Litchfield County
Litchfield Aug t 18. 1832
I Frederick Wolcott Clerk of the County Court for the County of Litchfield & State of Connecticut hereby certify that Origen Steymon Esquire before whom the foregoing affidavits of Reuben Palmer, Harvey Whiting & Return Bissell appear to be taken in & for more than a year last past has been a justice of the Peace for said County duly qualified to administer oaths & that the signatures to said affidavits which purport to be his are genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & the seal of said Court this 18 th day of August A D 1832 Frederick Wolcott, Clerk

FREE
June 29
To The Hon. J. L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions. Washington City.

Litchfield Conn t June 18. 1833,
To Hon J. L. Edwards,
Commissioner of Pensions.
Sir, I again send the application of Mr. John Winchel for a pension, which was returned for want of precision in the statement of the time. He has made a supplementary affidavit, which I hope will be satisfactory Very Respectfully
your ob t serv t
O. S. Seymour

Hanover ct. } February 17 th }
Feb 21. (1841)
Mr Swan
free
J L Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City

15 July 1842
J. L. Edwards
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
Enclosed are documents for the purpose of drawing the pension of or arrears of pension due the late John Wm. Mitchell. Of course please forward the same to me at the court.
David W. Catlin