Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 11,964, John D Young, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER _____
New York
Young, John D.
P. 11964
CONTENTS

53.848
John D. Young
See Vol 3. p 21.
Fifes - $16.86
ms. days
Am. M. J. Bove 1872
John D. Young William Lloyd
declaration for
5 p 21
5 p 21
5 p 21

Sworn to & subscribed the day & Year above written before me
D. F. Sacia Judge of Montgomery County Courts & Counsellor in sup Court of said State
And I do certify that the above named applicant cannot attend court to make this declaration by reason of bodily infirmity - and that in my opinion he is entitled to full credit -
D. F. Sacia Judge
State of New York Montgomery County Clerk's office. ss:
I, George D. Ferguson, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Montgomery County, do hereby certify that David F. Sacia before whom the foregoing petition application of John D. Young purports to have been sworn & whose name is subscribed thereto & also subscribed to the foregoing certificate of Character of said Applicant, was at the date thereof a Judge of Montgomery County Courts & Counsellor in the Supreme Court of the State of New York, & that his signature as above mentioned is Genuine. And I further certify that Henry Cook before whom the annexed affidavits of Hozia Loynes, Casparus Zuller, Richard Shimmel & John Rise purports to have been sworn & whose name is subscribed to said affidavits, & whose name is also subscribed to the annexed Certificate of Character of said Deponents, was on the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in & for said County, and that his name subscribed as above mentioned is Genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & the seal of my office this 14th November 1836.
Geo. D. Ferguson, Clerk

93.848
John D. Young
See Vol 3. p 21.
Fifes - $16.86
Mr. Young
Am. M. Bovee KR
John D. Young Richardson declaration for

age of Claimant born
Remarks And Occurrences
Rendering Garrison duty to the United States while continually stationed at Fort Plank, that on the latter part of July same year, at the time of the Genl conflagration of the Town of Canajoharie was Minden, by Capt Brant with 400 of his Indians from Canada, murdering, scalping, burying chiefly all around Fort Plain, and Fort Plank, where at the same time when at the same time the House, barn, and all their buildings appertaining to their Farm, where Claimant with his Mother & family, had resided were consumed to ashes, Not a Shilling left, and that they had been great Sufferers, during the the Revolution, in consequence of the war, and that the whole Company under the command of Col Joseph House with their respective families, were ordered, directed, and constrained to remove into Fort Plank, and there continued to reside, until after the conclusion of the said Revolutionary War and during the aforesaid Period of time, Claimant at least has rendered the length of Service to the United States as Fifer, Six Months
Position left before
Isaac Soyars
Casparus Zoller
Richard Schimmel
Stationed at Fort Plank during the whole year Col. Marinus Willett for and during the course of the years 1781 & 1782 until the termination of the Revolutionary War, having had the command over all the Levies as well as over all the Militia in all the then County of Tryon, and whose object was to be always ready repelling the Incursions of the common Enemy, that from the early part in Spring, say forsooth in April until the latter part of November your Applicant was equally as much engaged in rendering United States Services, than any Enlisted Soldier, where as having Uniformly played the Rosebuds Morning & Evening, besides Roll calls, and often and frequently, in pursuit of the Enemy, also Voluntary, sometimes suffering himself, to be put on Guard as well by day, than Night, And likewise sometimes in Winter alarm alarmed Although Claimant verily believes, that he ought to be placed on an equal footing with an Enlisted Soldier, shall rest by stating that he hath at least rendered the length of Service as Fifer, to the United States as placed Opposite
Claimant State that his Services rendered during said year are identically the same as mentioned in the foregoing mentioned year, that he was continually engaged, in rendering United States Services from the early part in Spring, by forsooth of April until late in November, besides Voluntary, sometimes, watching and Guarding against the Incursions of the common Enemy sometimes pursuing the Enemy, and not excepting the Winter Season, when sometimes alarmed, causing Claimant, has been rendering Garrison duty, that Claimant at least, has rendered United States Services from Spring until late in November, as Fifer during the said year as placed Opposite Six Seven Months
That the said John D Young the aforesaid Claimant hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a Pension or Annuity Except the present, and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any State
John D Young
Applicant Pension

State of New York } Montgomery County } 15
State of New York Montgomery County } ss — On the 5 th day of November One Thousand, Eight Hundred, and Thirty Six, — Personally Appeared Before me David F. Lacia, Judge of Montgomery County Courts, and Councillor in the Supreme Court, & John D. Young formerly of the Town of Minden, and County of Montgomery, and State Aforesaid, where he was born and brought up, in the Aforesaid Town & County as Aforesaid, Until, and that he Resided at the same place Aforesaid, Until some time in June 1813 when he removed to the Town of Perrinville in the County of Jefferson, with his family, and there continued to reside, Until after the late War, and Until sometime in June 1819 when himself and Wife, went and removed into Canada, vizt Upper Canada in the Township of Baham, County of Middlesex, and district of London, with several of his children, vizt Six, whom are All Married, And among which the one of his Sons Named John Young and his Wife, have been the benefactors, ever since, and the Father & Mother totally dependent, on them, but Inclined and determined to return to the County of Jefferson again with his Wife, where he has three children residing, who each are married & having families — Who the Aforesaid John D Young being duly sworn, deposeth and saith that by reason of Old Age, and the consequent loss of Memory, he cannot swear positively, as to the precise length of time of his services rendered to the United States, but According To the best of his recollection, he served not less, than the Periods mentioned below, and in the following grades —
A Statement showing the Services of John D. Young, rendered to the United States, in the Revolutionary War.

   Carried 1780 0 10 23 over Fifer do and continued Company officers Capt House Field officers Col Sam l Clyde Battles if Engaged Country through which Marched & when N York States do     1781 for and during said year 0 7 0 do do Col Wittet & Col Clyde " " do do   1782 for and during said year 0 7 00 do do do " " do "   Total 2 0 23 And full length of services rendered by John D Young the Named in the foregoing Declaration for which he claims a  

John D. Young abt 1832
J Groom Present

Know all men by these presents that I John D Young of Hamilton Canada West have made constituted and appoin- =ted, and by these presents do make constitute and appoint Rev Rev. Van Alstyne Esq. of the Town of Mohawk, Montgomery County & State of New York my True & lawful Attorney for me & in my name, to prosecute before the Commissioner of Pensions at Washington City, D. C., my claim for a ~ Pension, my papers are on file at the Pension office for services rendered in the war of the Revolution Under Capt House in the northern Department of the continental army of the Revolution, will more particularly refer to my paper on file
Also an attorney or attorneys under him for the purposes aforesaid to make and constitute, I hereby confirm and ratify all & whatsoever my said attorney or his substitute or substitutes shall lawfully do or cause to be done in the premises by virtue of these presents In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my Hand & Seal this 19 th day of May 1852
Signed Sealed & Delivered in John D Young The presence of John Young
On this 19 th day of May 1852 personally appeared before me the undersigned John D. Young above named and he acknowledged that he had granted the foregoing power of attorney by him signed for the purpose therein mentioned ~ And I certify that said John D. Young made oath in due form of law before me, that he is interested in the claim referred to in the preceding power of attorney & is the identical John D. Young referred to and seen the premises.
Sworn & subscribed before me by his holding the pen, the date above.
John Ryckman S. P.
for the United Counties of Waterloo, Waterloo & Brant
John D Young

I Abm Van Horne hereby by virtue of the power Given unto me in & by the preceding power of attorney nominate constitute & appoint Shimeul Godwin Esqr of Washington City D. C. my attorney & substitute that for me in the aforesaid prosecution, Witness my Hand & Seal this 15 th day of June 1852. Abm Van Horne
I wish to see the papers in this case S. Godwin

11. 964 P. O.
Service: John E. Young
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: List of suspended claims printed in 1852 shows cause of suspension
Re-enlisted: as follows: No evidence of 6 mos. service. The officers under whom he served have told but they do not credit him.
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

York 33.248
Inclosed Declaration calculated for John D. Young
NY
See letter to Hon. M. J. Bovee 20. Dec. 1830
Ltr to Jacob Suddo July 25. 31
" to Hon. J. Edwards Jan. 4. 1838
Hon. C. E. Clarke 25 th April 1830
W. G. Wade 23 Aug t 1851.
copy in case
Hon. M. J. Bovee HN
Dec 12
out 1832
Hon M J Bovee HN

32,848
John D. Young N.Y.
Godwin Aug 9 1852 " Mar: 18: 53
11964
acts 7 June 1832

[Persons making application at the Comptroller's, or Secretary of State's Office, for searches, or certificates of service of any person, in the army of the U. S. during the revolutionary war, should give the name and ranks held by such person; the nature of the service; whether in the Infantry, Cavalry, or Artillery, &c.; in the regular army or militia; the names of the officers commanding the regiments and companies at the time of enlistment, service and discharge, as near as can be given. The names should be given with care, and in a legible hand.
 In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz: 
N.B. The original order for the two last Certificates, in Staples command, are "signed" his " " " John X Young " " " marks and was a resident of Albany City in 1791, which is the date of the order
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, Feby 1 st 1843.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2, 3 & 4 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
   First — under Capt. Aaron Hale in Col. Marinus Willett's Regiment.   Second “ “ John Pearce “ “ do “   Third “ “ John Bauman “ “ Samuel Clydes “   Fourth “ “ Lothrop Allen “ “ John Harper “   Fifth “ “ do “ “ do “   Sixth “ “ “ “ “   Seventh “ “ “ “ “   Eighth “ “ “ “ “   Ninth “ “ “ “ “   Tenth “ “ “ “ “   Eleventh “ “ “ “ “   Twelfth “ “ “ “ “   Thirteenth “ “ “ “ “   Fourteenth “ “ “ “ “   Fifteenth “ “ “ “ “  
I have examined the rolls for the above, and find £ 43 : 2 ; 1 to be correct.
W. Lee Examining Clerk.
Philip Sheppard Comptroller.

Affidavit on behalf John D Young By Richard Shinnwell

State of N. York Montgomery County } ss.
On the 15 th day of August 1836 Personally appeared before me Henry Cook one of the Justices of the peace of the Town of Minden, in and for the County of Montgomery Aforesaid, Richard Schimmels of The Town of Root, in the Town and County Aforesaid, who being duly sworn deposes and saith, That he has been personally acquainted with John D Young, Now as he verily believ a resident in Upper Canada, he deponent says, that he is perfectly satisfied, that the said John D Young was born in then Town of Canajohary, now Minden in the County of Montgomery formerly, previous to the Revolutionary War Troy County, And that he was personally acquainted with the Aforesaid John D Young from the time they went to school together previous to the Revolutionary War, during the same and ever since —
deponent further saith, that the aforesaid John D Young, has been an Enterprising young man in the Aforesaid War, that he was a Musician Viz Dr Fifer in the Company of Militia, commanded by Capt. Joseph House, in the Regt. commanded, by Col. John Clyde Although, Young in the year 1780, but that he has, and did, render United States Services as Fifer, Evening and morning at Fort Plank for three years in succession, Untill the final close of the Revolution, Viz for three years, say from May Untill late in fall, in each year, that the said John D Young did not only play the Fife, and his Associate Jacob Dupre, as Drummer beat the Reveille, Morning & Evening, but. Again and Also, at Roll call Morning and Evening, did attend with their Musical Instruments, When parading the Company Under Capt. House Aforesaid
deponent further saith that Claimant has been watching and Guarding, While in the Fort, in Standing Centry besides his attend- ing as one of the Musicions,

deponent further saith, that, the Company of Militia Under Capt t House, after and evidently after the General Conflagration, and desolation of Minden, the forepart of August 1780, the said Company of Capt t House were not only constrained and ordered to be stationed at Fort Plank in rendering Garrison duty, but totally left Shelter-dep, Utica after the close of the said Revolutionary War. —
And deponent further and lastly saith, that claimant has been a true and faithful Whig in the Revolution, and a true friend to the American cause, in achieving our Independence and Liberty.
And that he is a man of truth and veracity, and further saith Not —
Sworn and subscribed before me this 15 th day of August 1836
J. Cook Justice
Richard Shimmell
State of N. York
Montgomery County } ss.
On the 15 th of Aug t 1836. Personally appeared before me Henry Cook one of the Justices of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, John Rice of Minden, who has been duly sworn, deposes and saith, that he has been personally acquainted with Richard Shimmell at the time, of the Revolutionary War and ever since, and that he is the identical person who has sworn and subscribed his name to the foregoing Affidavit, and that he is a person of truth and veracity and further saith not —
Sworn and subscribed before me this 15 th day of Aug t 1836
J. Cook Justice
John Rice

State of N, York } ss Montgomery County } ss
I the subscriber a justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, do certify That I am personally acquainted with John Rice the Person, Named In the Evident proceeding Affidavit, and have been, for a Number of years past, and do further certify that he is a man of truth and Veracity, and his Testimony Entitled to full credit, and that I having Not been acquainted with Richard Shimmick, Named in the Former Affidavit, but Verily believe him to be a person of strict Integrity, truth and Veracity, and further saith not
Dated Aug. 15 th 1836
J. H. Cook

State of N. York - Montgomery County } ss
On the 28 th day of June 1837 PD Personally appeared Before me Henry Cook a Justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid John D. Young, for and from the time of his birth, a resident of the Town of Canajohary Afterwards, divided into two Towns, then Minden, in the then County of Tryon, now Montgomery And then a resident of said Town and County during the Revolutionary War, and that the year 1813, who has bondly and truly sworn according to law, deponeth and saith that whereas doubts have arisen in the Opinion of his hon. the Pension Commissioners Vizt his hon. Mr J. S. Edwards, as to the first Service rendered to the United States, in his Country's cause, as a substitute for Hezekiah Soyars, for five weeks, in Spring or forest in summer, under the command of Capt. Tytus, Col. Weiscuff's Regt. deponant further saith, that conformable to the instructions by the War department given, in the year 1832 that he was well aware, that no regular Rolls or documents could or would be found in the department of War, excepting that of the States, of New Hampshire, and Virginia, - - - - -
the deponant further State, that in the year 1813. he did remove to the County of Jefferson, Black river Country in the Town of Berneilia, and same State aforesaid, Untill some few years after the late War, when three of his Children remaining with their respective families in said County of Jefferson, and six others of his Children, removed into Canada, with whom, himself & his wife, doth reside Vizt with his four John & family, but saith he saith, that since he had returned into York State, by leaving his wife in Upper Canada, and that he did not only come in Order to see his friends, and his former acquaintance, but also in full hope and belief, that he would obtain his bounty or reward, that which a benign Administration hath calculated for him for his Services rendered to the United States -
That deponant further State that he cannot refrain from adhering to the to the statement contained in his Original Declaration and by declaring, that he did render the full amount of such service as contained in his Original declaration aforesaid, and that in the Opinion of Claimant, his claim and Service rendered, has been supported in full by the Testimony accompanying his Original, and the Applicant flatters himself with a hope, that his hon. the Commissioners of Pensions will entertain no further doubts by reference concerning the service rendered under the command of Capt. Tytus, -

That the applicant cannot permit, as to Col Weinsett of his having had the command of said Reg t in Spring, or early part in Summer, or to what other different Arrangements have been made from Fall 1778. Until Spring 1779, but this is certain that Col Weinsett had the command of the same Reg t in Fall previous to the year 1779, and if not Col Weinsett, it must have been under the command of Col Requier, a French Col, when on the Expedition under the Gen l command of Gen l Clinton, and Gen l Sullivan, Generally called, Gen l Sullivan's Expedition to the West, but this is certain and cannot be disputed says deponent, that he did serve as a Substitute for Josiah Lyons under Capt Tytus, for five weeks, as aforesaid, and after the expiration of the five weeks continued in rendering faithful services as a faithful Militiaman from year to year, as a Militiaman, and sometimes, and besides as a private soldier, watching and guarding against the incursions of the common Enemy At Fort Plank, and frequently guarding labouring men when doing their work on their farms, and more particular in harvest time, when certain Neighbours would join and meet and assist each other, not only with their working tools, but at the same time, with their arms and equipments, with a centre placed over them.
The Applicant further saith that he has been absent from home since July last year, and continued and stayed with his relations, friends, and his former Neighbours, awaiting the time, in hope that Justice at last will be rendered him conjuring his hon or the Pension Commissioners, that he will be pleased by reconsidering his former decision, At the same time by reexamining his Original declaration connected with the Testimony attached, as also the Testimony attached to the Present, in hope that not too much reliance may be had, on such Partial Rolls or documents as are found, and if not found, disregarding the Testimony often that of the most Creditable men, in giving the Preference to Uncertainties.
And deponent further saith not subscribed and sworn to, this 28 th day of June 1837 before me Henry Cook Justice
John D Young

State of New York } Montgomery County } ss
On the 24 th day of June 1837 Personally appeared before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, Magdalena Picket, wife of Isaac Picket, of the Town of Scrubba, County of Oswego, & State aforesaid, who was duly sworn, according to Law, deposeth and saith that she perfectly recollects, that late in fall or forepart in December last, Fiter and Capt Davis both were stationed at her Father's house, for and during said Winter Until sometime in Spring, yet in fall 1778 & left in Spring 1779, deposant further saith, that she all during said Period of time aforesaid did learn the the one was called Capt Fiter, and the other Capt Davis, and during the aforesaid period, understood as being under the command of Col Weirandt and further this deposant saith Not Subscribed & sworn June 24 th 1837 Before me Henry Cook Justice Magdalena Picket (mark)
I Henry Cook one of the Justices of the Peace of the County of Montgomery do hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Magdalena Picket, who has subscribed the above affidavit, and have been for a number of Years, and that she is a person of Good Moral Character, of truth and veracity and whose testimony is entitled to full credit. Dated June 24 th 1837,
Henry Cook Justice

State of New York - } Montgomery County } ss
On the 24 th day of June 1837. Personally Appeared Before me Henry Cook a Justice of the peace in and for the County Aforesaid Isaac Pickett of the Town of Scrubbe, and County of Oswego and State Aforesaid, who has been duly sworn, deponeth and saith, that he has been personally Acquainted, with Capt Titus and Capt Davis, in the fall 1778 and as understood Capt Titus's Christian Name was Jonathan, And according to the best of deponent's Knowledge that both Captains, then belonging to Col Weissenfeldts Regt, yet in fall 1778 as aforesaid, but may be probable, that Col Rquecher a French Col. the year following Vist in the Spring and for part of Summer 1779, deponent further saith, that Capt Titus and Capt Davis were Stationed At the house of Lieut George Countryman, from the latter Part in fall during the following Winter Until Spring, When the same Regt was joined to the Army when Under the command of Genl James Clinton. Generally called Sullivan's Expedition to the West,
And as an Circumstantial Testimony deponent further saith that late in fall as aforesaid, when Capt Titus and Capt Davis were Stationed at the house of George Countryman, When the two Companies Under the command of Capt Titus And Capt Davis were Stationed at different houses Near the house of said Lieut Countryman, When a Paroll Guard was sent out each and every Night, that one particu- lar Night, deponent in company with John Countryman, one time late at night, was taken by the Paroll Guard, and delivered and brought to the house of Henry Whitmore where the said Guard was kept, and delivered over to Sergt Welch and Corporal Dickson, and kept Under Guard Until some time in the Morning When taken and brought to the house of the said Lieut Countryman before Capt Titus And Capt Davis, When after an Examination by said Captains, they were pleased to Grant them their discharge, and further deponent saith not.
Subscribed and sworn this 24 day
J Greene Bishop
of June 1837 Before me Henry Cook Justice
I Henry Cook one of the Justices of the peace of the County of Montgomery in the state of New York, do hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Isaac Pickett and have been for a number of years, and know him to be a man of Good Moral Character, a man of Truth & integrity whose testimony is entitled to full credit. Dated June 24 th 1837.
Henry Cook Justice

State of New York Montgomery County Clerks Office. Ys:
I, George D. Ferguson, Clerk of the County of Montgomery aforesaid, do hereby Certify that Henry Cook, before whom the foregoing supplemental declaration of John D. Young, & the foregoing affidavits of Magdalena Pickard & Isaac Pickard purport to have been sworn, was on the date of the same a justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid: And that I am well acquainted with his handwriting & truly believe that his name subscribed to the said supplemental declaration & to the said affidavits & to the foregoing certificates of Character of said Magdalena & Isaac is the proper signature of said justice
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of my Office this 14th July 1837.
Geo: D. Ferguson.

Affidavit on behalf of John D. Young By Nogiah Lague

State of N. York } Montgomery County }
ss, On the 16 th day of August 1836
Personally Appeared before me Henry Cook One of the Justices of the Peace in and for the County Aforesaid, Hozia Loquer of the Town of Canajohary, County and State Aforesaid, Who being duly sworn deposes and saith that he has been personally acquainted with John D. Young at the time of the Revolutionary War, since the year 1776. during the same. And ever since,
Deponent further saith, that the aforesaid John D. Young a Claimant for a Pension, at the age of thirteen thirteen years and about six months became a substitute for himself, said deponent, for five weeks, and some few days, in the year 1779 in forepart of summer. When deponent, was an Enlisted Regular soldier, in the Company commanded by Capt Jonathan Tytus, in the Second N. York Reg t commanded by Col Frederick Weissenfelt, Stationed at Fort Plain, during which time, deponent says, that himself was sick, and allowed by his Capt, Col Weissenfelt, & Doct r or surgeon, Phylis, to absent himself from the Company & Reg t for and during the time he was sick
Deponent further saith, that Claimant hath been a prominent, Mucipion Dist a Police, while a Substitute for himself, vizt. for deponent, and kept playing on the Pipe while in the service of the United States as a substitute for deponent. Deponent further saith and declares, that, the Officers generally were much delighted and taken in and Pleased with the Young soldier or Mucipion, so much so, that Lieut Col Requier, the French, Lieut Col Requier Under Col Weissenfelt was sollicitous getting Claimant to join the Reg t , and when reaching the ears of his Mother, that her son, had an anxiety and determined Inclination to get himself Enlisted, in joining the Army, she prevailed on deponent by shedding tears, for him to return to Fort Plain, forbidding her son not to Enlist, and also, the field as well than the Inferior Officers Officers to desist from Enlisting him, and accordingly he declined Enlisting, —
Deponent further deposes and saith, that after the said Claimant hath been a Substitute for him, he felt Stimulated, with such a Soldierly Spirit, that he Evidently after in the same year 1779 during the remainder

part, Summer & Fall, Associated with Jacob Dupre who was drummer, when stationed at Fort Plank, continually beating and playing the Reveille, in the Morning Early, and late in the Evening, And Again early in Spring 1780 Again commenced in beating and playing the Reveille, Morning & Evening Until forepart of August, when at the time of the Genl. conflagration by Capt Brandt with About 400. Incendiaries from Canada, Burning, Murde- ring, Scalping and Prisoners taken by them, that the Services rendered to the United States, by Regiment at Fort Plank were rendered Under the command of Capt Joseph Howe, And Under the chief command of Col Clyde, And Enrolled as Pipers and Jacob Dupre as Drummers. Early in Spring 1780, —
deponent further State and say that Evidently After the General conflagration Upper part than Canajohary, now Minden, the whole Company of Militia under the command of Capt Joseph Howe, in the Regt. commanded by Col Sam l Clyde were Ordered, stationed and directed, to Fort Plank, and there Ordered to render United States Services, continually Under the direction of the Orderly Sergeant Viz Sergt Joseph C Howe, in watching and Guarding the Fort, and so continued in rendering Garrison duty at Fort Plank then Enrolled as one of the Musicians, Viz Pipers, with Jacob Dupre drummer, from Spring 1780 Until the final close of the Revolution, Viz from in rendering United States Services in beating and playing the Reveille, Early in the Morning. And Again late In the Evening, And Also regularly, again in the Morning and Evening at Roll Call, so continued for three different seasons, Annually, for three years from Spring Until late in Fall, excepting, during said Period, some times Voluntarily on a Scream Alarm, besides leaving a Sufficient Guard at the Fort, did turn and marching out with the raid Company, in Guarding and repelling the incursions of the Enemy from Canada, —
And deponent further saith and declares, that while acting as a

acting in rendering Garrison duty as one of the Mucipions at Fort Plank that said Claimant often and frequently, has stood his tour as one of the Centries, watching & Guarding —————
deponent further declare and saith that Claimant at least has and did render the length of five weeks, & some days, Services to the United States as Substitute for deponent, and at least Three Months, as one of the Mucipions at Fort Plank, and in the year 1779, and for and during the course of the three other seasons, viz, from the early Part in Spring 1780 until late in fall, annually, in each year, Claimant has at least rendered the length of Service to the United States, Six Months Annually to the Conclusion of the Aforesaid Revolution, —————
And deponent further deposes, and declares, that it is Generally Allowed That Claimant has been a true Whig, and that he has distinguished himself by his Enterprizes, as a young man, in the latter Part of the Revolutionary War say from the year 1779, to the final Conclusion of the War, equals with any other of the same age, then residing, Along the Mohawk river —————
deponent further saith, that Claimant is a man of truth and Veracity, and that his Testimony is Entitled to full Credit ————— Sworn and subscribed before me
This is the day of August 1836
A. Cook Justice
His Mark Hoylea Joynes
State of New York } I certify that I am personally acquainted with Montgomery County } the within named Hoylea Joynes, that he is a man of truth and Veracity that his testimony is entitled to full Credit, I further certify that the said Hoylea Joynes on oath saith that he has no Education, never learned to write, therefor makes his mark to the within affidavit, Dated August 16 th 1836.
A. Cook Justice

S. Godwin Aug 9 th 1852 " "

121 Pension Office Aug 9 1852
Sir
I have carefully examined the case of M c D Young of N Y - act June 7 1832 - and have to inform you that the Decision of the Office heretofore made in regard to this claim, must stand as the its decision now - He claims for 1 mo & 8 days  22 months Service in Col Weisenfelds Reg t under Capt Tylas, and 22 months in Capt Housers Co. His name is not found at all upon the Rolls of Col Weisenfeld, and the Rolls of Capt Houser only show a service of 2 mo & 20 days. if he could prove his ser- vice in Weisenfelds Reg t of 1 mo & 8 days - it would not avail him unless he could show a longer term of service in Housers Co. He should apply to the Comptroller and Secretary of State of N Y for further evidence of service. The parol testimony in the case is of no weight.
S. Godwin Esq Present

Washington 22 nd April 50
Colo J. S. Edwards
Commission of Pensions Sir
Old Mr John D. Young says that many years since he applied for a pension - that for some reason he does not know what, he failed - That his papers were presented by a man now dead - That he understands that the law is now so changed, that his case comes within it - & he begs of me to ask of the Comm of Pensions to look at his papers - again, that he is too old & too poor to go through the toil & expense of preparing a new set - Mr Young lives in Danville Jefferson Co. N.Y. & applies to me through the Hon Orville H. Mungerford who thinks old Mr Young is entitled to a pension. I have the honor to be Your obedt servt C. R. Clarke

Hon. John Edwards
4 Jan 1838
OL

War Department Pension Office
Jan 4. 1838
Sir The claim of John D. Young, referred to in the enclosed letter of H. Adams Esq., is for one month and Eight days service in Col H Captain Tytus Company Col Wippenfels  about 22 months Wippenfels for about 22 months  from that time till 1782, in Capt Hous Company as a Fifer. All the It appears by the rolls of Captain Hous Company that all the service rendered by the claimant during that period was two months twenty days - His name is not borne on the rolls of Col Wippenfels at all, but if that part of the claim could be established by sufficient evidence it would not be sufficient to entitle the applicant to a pension under the act
Ed.
How John Edwards House Reps US

Hon d J r
If Maj r Sammons is yet at Washington, will thank you to present my best respects to him, assuring him that I shall and do rely on his usual friendship and favour, as well while at Washington than when at home, I have seen his son William on the 4 th July last All is well with their families, respectfully,
Yours &c Jacob Snell
Hon d J. L. Edwards Esq r

Copy
M. G. Wade Esqr.,
Pension Office
Rose, New York.
August 23, 1851.
Sir:
The enclosed copy of a letter addressed to the Hon. J. Edwards on the 4 th January 1838, in the case of John D. Young, claiming a pension under the Act of June 7, 183 3 2 , will show you the reasons which have prevented the allowance of a pension heretofore. No additional testimony has been placed before this Office since the above mentioned letter was written.
Very &c
E.

Washington 26 April 50
Col. J. S. Edwards Sir
In your favor of the 25 th inst you speaking in relation to the case of John D. Young you say "I enclose a copy of my letter of the 4 th Jany 1838 to Hon. J. Edwards from which you will learn the present condition of his application"
This copy was (no doubt by accident) omitted to be sent. It might be to Mr Young a gratification to know the exact state of his case & we also satisfy him that his representative has looked to his case -
Yours with great respect C. R. Colborne

Pension Office April 25. 1850
I have the honor to return herewith Mr Ely's letter and in reply to the same to state that the decision of this office in the case of Anna Taylor, widow of Samuel Taylor is in conformity with the decision of the Secretary of the Interior of the 6 March last in the case of Sarah White widow of Thomas White.
Mrs White's husband was a pensioner under the act of 7 June 1832, and died in 1839. The Secretary decided that "She was not entitled under the act of 7 July 1838. That, provides for persons who were widows at the time of its passage, but not for those who should become so thereafter."
Mrs Taylor was not a widow on 7 July 1838, her husband it appears died in 1840, Consequently she has no claim to the benefits of the act of that date.
In reply to your communication in relation to the case of John D. Young I have to inform you that his claim has not been allowed. The evidence furnished does not show that he received as much as

6 months Service. I enclose a copy of my letter of 4 Janry 1838, to Hon J Edwards from which, you will learn the present condition of his Application. No additional evidence has been received since the date of that report
25 Apr 1838
Honble E Clarke Home of Reps

To the Hon J. C. Herketh Comm of Pensions, Sir,
This is to show that Willis G. Wade of Rose New York, is My Atton- my, duly authorized to prosecute the investi- gation of My claim for a pension, against the United States, - application was made by me about the year 1837, from Jefferson Co N.Y., -
Witness My hand this 10 th day of May. 1851, John D Young
Sworn and subscribed before me this day of year above written by John D Young, who states under oath that he is the identical person who made application for a pension as above stated,
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand the date above written,
Sworn before me at the City of Hamilton this 10 th day of May 1851.
John Ryckman J.P. for the United Counties of Wentworth & Halton } John D Young

Washington D.C. March 14 - 1853
Dr Col.
As you have had the management of the case of John D. Young I send you herewith the Comptroller's Certificate so long expected.
So far as residence is concerned there is nothing to militate against the fact that Y. served in the State Troop Regiments of Col. Willett & Col. Harper - and as to Col. Clyde's militia Regt it covered the very beat within the pale of which Y. lived.
The fact of the date of the order being at Albany is no proof that Y. lived there at the time. There is a great deal of docy proof for this name of "Y" - the annexed is all that

can be found, that takes in with the alleged service But note particularly that there is no record proof for service in 1775, 1776, 1777 & 1778 the first years of the war - but it must not be inferred from thence that no proof service was rendered in those years
G. F. YATES

Col. J. Bodwin March 18 th 1853

140 Pension Office (Mar: 18/53)
Sir
The claim of John D Young of N.Y. under Act of 7 June 1832 for a Pension, has been reexamined -
The certificate of the Comptroller of N.Y. just filed by way of additional evidence, furnishes no proof of the Service of Claimant, that Certificate shows the services of a John Young, & a John Youngs , who were privates, whereas the proof required, was of the Service of John D. Young, a fifer -
The claim is, therefore suspended until this proof is adduced -
Col: S. Godwin Present

Hon. M. J. Sovee
20. Dec. 1830
O. C.
Rec vol 39 Page 377

War Department
Pension Office
Dec 20. 1834
Sir The papers of John D. Young, an applicant for a pension under the act of June 7 th 1834 2 have been examined & placed on file - The claimant states that he served in Capt Jonathan Tytus Company Col Weisfells regt one month and eight days in 1779 and about from that time to 1782 about 22 months in Capt the Joseph Housa Company as a Fifer - The rolls of Capt Housa company for which included that period, have been carefully examined; all the service the claimant appears to have rendered therein is two months & 20 days as a Fifer. The claim to service in Col Weisfells regt is not supported by any evidence in this office, the claimants name is not found there and it may be added that there was no captain of the name of Tytus in the regiment at the period referred to.
Hon M. J. Bane Home Reps US

Rose New York, May 20th 1857.
Sir,
I beg leave to request the favor of being informed, of the objections to the admission of the claim of John Young, named in the enclosed power of Attorney and affidavit.
I am Respectfully, Your Obedt Servant, H. G. Wade
Hon J. D. Heath P. Com d of Pensions.

State of N. York } ss — On the 15 th day of August 1836. Montgomery County }
Personally appeared before me Henry Cook a Justice of the Peace of the Town of Minden, in and for the County aforesaid, Barbarus Zoller of the Village of the Little Falls, County of Herkimer, and State aforesaid, who having been duly sworn, according to Law, deposeth and saith that he has been personally acquainted with John D. Young, late of  now of  Upper Canada now a claimant for Pension, under the Act of Congress, passed June 7 th 1832. — — —
Deponent further saith that he has been personally acquainted with the said claimant, previous to the Revolutionary War, during the same and ever since, that he was born in the Town of Canajohary now Town of Minden, and County and State aforesaid, and from which place he removed with his family to the County of Jefferson State of N. York aforesaid, to the Black River Country, for exceeding twenty years past, with the exception of  and since which time continued to reside with some of his children in the aforesaid County of Jefferson in the aforesaid State of N. York, until of late years the said claimant went to Upper Canada, and there stayed with some of his children for some several years past, and that deponent, further saith, that he being well assured, that claimant having not obtained or gained a legal place of residence or settlement, but dependent, on the mercy of God, and his children,
Deponent further saith, that claimant, has entered the United States Service as one of the Mucipians, in the Company of Militia commanded by Capt. Joseph House, in the Reg t

Regiment commanded by Col. Samuel Clyde, in the Early Part of Spring, 1780, that that Jacob Dupeler as Drummer and the said Claimant as Pifer were enrolled in the Aforesaid Company, as such Mucipions, and that both the Aforesaid Mucipions, were stationed at Fort Plank, at least from the Early Part in Spring 1780, Until for part of August, at the time of the General Conflagration then Upper part of Canajohary, Now Minden, by the the Incendiaries from Canada, Under Capt Brant, when, Burning, Murdering and Sculbing and Prisoners taken to Canada, when and at which time, Claimant with his fathers family were great Sufferers in consequence in having all consumed by fire &c
deponent further saith, that Evidently after the said Gen l Conflagration, vizt for part in Aug t the whole Company Under the command of Capt House were Ordered and Stationed at Fort Plank, and there kept and continued Until the close of the Revolution, and Until they, each and Every family; had buildings Erected at their former places of Residences, —————
And deponent further saith, that during the term of three years vizt from April Until late in fall, the said Company were kept the same like the Regular Enlisted Soldiers, Morning & Evening they have had their Regular Roll calls, when the Aforesaid Dupeler and the present Claimant, would and actually did perform their respective duties as Mucipions; and besides, Morning & Evening, would and did beat the Ravel, and that Joseph C House who was their Orderly Sergeant, was located Upon, by Capt Joseph House, and at all times called the the Roll of the Company, besides left to the said Orderly Sergeant to arrange the Guards respectively, of the said Company continually unless the Company were called out on serious Alarms, in Guarding against the Incursions of the common Enemy or Incendiaries from Canada

Only, by leaving, a Strong Guard at Fort Plank. And deponent further saith, that Claimant, always, has proved an Interprising, not only as a very attentive and punctual Macipion, but also sometimes, proved, a good and willing Soldier, in suffering himself to be put on Guard, and Occasionally, Voluntarily, turning out, in pursuing and Guarding Against the incursions of the Suckendaries from Canada, as well as well there being but little Guard at Fort Plank at Claimant's own free Will and Option, —————.
And deponent further saith and declares, that Claimant has At least rendered such Services as mentioned in the foregoing, to the United States the length of Six Months Annually, for three years. Vizt from Spring 1780 to late in fall in each and Every year, and so continued Until the close of the the Revolutionary War, making and constituting the length of Services Rendered by Claimant, during the aforesaid term of One year & Six Months.
deponent lastly, declares and saith, that Claimant has been a true And faithful lolog, and friend to the American cause, for liberty and In- : defence of these United States, — And furthermore that he is and always was a man of Strict Integrity, truth and Veracity — And further saith Not — — — — —
Sworn to and subscribed before Me this 16 th day of August 1836
C. H. Cook Justice
his Caspares L. Myller Mark

State of New York } I certify that I am personally Montgomery County } acquainted with the within named Caspars Guller, and that he is a man of truth and veracity and that his testimony is entitled to full credit. I further certify that the said Caspars Guller on oath says that he has no recollection ever learned to write. I therefore make his mark to the within affidavit dated August 16th 1836.
A. Cook Justice
Affidavit on behalf of John D. Young By Caspars Guller