Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 11,974, James Young, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Young, James. Elizabeth
W. 11.974
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James Young's Pension Declaration
From
Elias Holliday Schoharie N.Y.

State of New York Schoharie County } ss.
75 James On this sixth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty five personally appeared in open court, before the Judges of the court of common pleas of said county now sitting, James Young, a resident of the town of Duaneburgh in the county of Schoenectady and State aforesaid, aged seventy five years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7, 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated.
He was firstly ordered into the service, on an alarm, at Duaneburgh now in the county of Schoenectady and State aforesaid, in the latter part of the month of September or the first part of October in the year 1777 in Captain John Myers' company in Colonel Vromans regiment, that he joined the company at the lower Fort in Schoharie, at which time and was in the service that time as much as a week when he was discharged at Schoharie aforesaid.
That as early as the middle of May 1778 he was again ordered into the service in the same company and regiment, that they were stationed at the lower fort in Schoharie aforesaid that he served in said company and regiment for three months and was then discharged at the fort aforesaid.
That again in the year 1779 he was ordered into the service in Captain Myers' company in Colonel Vromans' regiment, that he joined the company at the lower fort in Schoharie, in said State, as early as the middle of May and then  then  then served in said company and regiment for then three months at the expiration of which time he was discharged at the fort aforesaid.
That in the Spring of 1780, he was again ordered into the service in the same company and regiment, that he joined the company at the lower fort in Schoharie aforesaid, and according to the best of his recollection it was early as the 20th of May that he served in said company and regiment for four months, and was discharged at Schoharie aforesaid.
That again he was ordered into the service in the Spring of 1781, in the same company and regiment as early as the 15th of May; that he joined the company at the lower fort in Schoharie

3- And served in said company and regiment for the term of three months and was then discharged at Schoharie aforesaid.
That as early as the first of June, in the year 1882, he was ordered into the service in the same company and regiment, marked to Schoharie, and remained there in the service for two months and a half, and was discharged there after his two months and a half service.
That he was called out again about the last of October, of the same year, in the same company at Dunaislough upon a raid, and marched to a place then called Warren's bush then in none in the county of Mountgomery and Sligo aforesaid, was in the service that time ten days that they marched back to Dunaislough where he was discharged.
That he had no documentary evidence and that he knows of no person, whose testimony he can procure, who can testify to his services. — And to the particular interrogatories of the court he answered, 1 st that he was born in the county of Sterling in Scotland in the 21 st of October 1759, as he had been informed and believed. 2 d That his age is recorded in his Father's old family bible which is now in the possession of him the said James Young. 3 d He was living in the town of Duanesburgh when he was called into the service, that he has lived since the revolutionary War in the town of Duanesburgh, now county of Schenectady and State of New York, and none lives there. 4 th He was ordered into the service each time. 5 th He does not recollect the names of any names of Regular officers who were with the troops where he served, does not recollect of any continental regiment being there, nor of any other Militia regiment being there, than the one he belonged to. 6 th He never received a written discharge nor did he ever receive a commission. 7 th That he is known to the following persons in his town or present neighbourhood who he thinks can testify to his character for veracity, and their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution. To wit, John Titus, Henry Wilson, John Ladd, James Gantley and others.
I hereby relinquished every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State. And the reason for making of his making application in Schoharie is that he lived within about eight miles of Schoharie court house.

and that it is more than double that distance to where the courts are held in the county of Schoharie; that it is more convenient and less expensive for him to attend apply in Schoharie
Sworn and subscribed in open court the day and year aforesaid A A Keyser Clk
James Young
I, Elijah Herrick, a clergyman formerly a resident of the town of Duaneburgh, in the county of Schoharie, and State of New York, and now a resident of the town of Charlston, county of Montgomery and State aforesaid, and about eleven miles from where the above named James Young formerly resided, and now resides, do hereby certify, that I am well acquainted with James Young, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, and have been well acquainted with him about forty five years; that I believe him to be seventy five years of age; that he was, and is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resided, to have been a soldier of the revolution and I concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed in open court the day and year aforesaid A A Keyser Clk
Elijah Herrick
I, John Titus, a Judge of the court of common Pleas of the county of Schoharie and State aforesaid, and a resident of the town of Duaneburgh in said county, hereby certify that I am well acquainted with James Young, who has subscribed said to the above declaration, that I believe him to be seventy five years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resided to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that I concur in that opinion.
Sworn & subscribed in open court the day and year aforesaid A A Keyser Clk
John Titus

I, James Bennett, a Justice of the peace of the county of Schoharie, residing in the town of Schoharie, and within about the distance of a mile of the residence of James Young, who has subscribed and sworn to the foregoing declaration, that this deponent was formerly a resident of the town of Duaneburgh, where the said James Young then, and now resides, that he is well acquainted with the said James Young, and that he believed him to be seventy five years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that I concur in that opinion.
Sworn & subscribed in open court the day and year aforesaid
James Bennett
A. Keyser clk
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogations prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier, and served as he stated. And the said court further certify, that it appears to them that Elijah Harnick who has signed the preceding certificate, is a clergyman, residing in the town of Charlston in the county of Montgomery & State aforesaid. And that John Sitton it also appears to them that John Sitton who has signed one of the preceding certificates is a Judge of the court of common Pleas of the county of Schoharie and a resident of the town of Duaneburgh in said county. And it also further appears to them that James Bennett who has also signed one of the preceding certificates is a Justice of the peace of the county of Schoharie and a resident of the town of Schoharie in said county and that they are credible persons and that their statements are entitled to credit.
Thos. Harnick William Sitton

I Ira Avery Esq. one of the Justices of the Peace in and for the Town of Diarnesburgh and County of Schenectady Residing near James Youngs Do Certify that I am well acquainted with him and like in the Neighbourhood and have for all most 30 years and I have always understood that he was a Soldier in the Revelation and that I am of that opinion
Sworn & Subscribed
Ira Avery
before me February the 8 th 1834
James Bennett a Commissioner of Deeds for Schobaria County
I certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Ira Avery and that he is a credible witness James Bennett

Henry, Shaper
Mauris Gadd
W. Mann
I, Abraham A. Keyser, clerk of the court of common pleas of the county of Schoharie, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court, in the matter of the application of James Young for a pension.
And I further certify, that James Bennett, who had subscribed one of the foregoing certificates, was at the time a Justice of the peace in and for the county of Schoharie. And I further certify that the said James Bennett was a commissioner of Deeds, of said county, legally authorized to take affidavits at the time the annexed affidavits of Ira Avery & others to him have been sworn and subscribed before the said James Bennett. And further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said James Bennett, and truly believe his signature to the taking of said affidavit and to the certificate thereon, to be genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this sixth day of February 1835.
A. A. Keyser Clk

A. H. Markland

State of New York COUNTY OF Schenectady } ss.
It is hereby certified that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me the Clerk of the County Courts held in and for the said County, being Courts of Record
that James Young, who was a reputed was Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States at the rate of $ per annum and that
Eleventh (11 th ) day of January eighteen hundred and thirty seven .
leaving surviving him the following named widow and children viz: Elizabeth Young (widow) Andrew Young, Margaret Young wife of William Cummings, Mary Young and Daniel Young.
and that Elizabeth Young the aforesaid widow also died on the twenty third day of October, eighteen hundred and fifty two, (1852) leaving surviving her Andrew Young, Margaret Young, wife of William Cummings, Mary Young, wife of John Cummings, John Young, James Young, Bennett Young and Daniel Young — who were the only surviving children of the aforesaid widow.
That Elizabeth Young was the Executrix of James Young deceased and that _____ is the _____ of _____ the widow as aforesaid
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of office this Twenty-Seventh day of April one thousand eight hundred and fifty- three
Marvin Strong Clerk

James Young
Sur — NY
Oct. 1832.
A. M. Knight

State of New York } County of Schenectady } 55
Be it Known, that on this Twentieth day of December A. D. 1852 before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared John Young
resident of Quincyburgh in said County, and made oath according to law that he is the legal heir of James Young who was a Soldier in the war of the Revolution, and who has heretofore made application for the benefit of the Pension Act of 4 that he is directly interested as a claimant in said pension and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my Agent may use in prosecuting said claim.
Countermanding and revoking all Powers of Attorney, and authority heretofore given, I hereby constitute and appoint C. W. BENNETT , of Washington City, my true and lawful Attorney, to prosecute the claim of James Young for any amount of Revolutionary Pension, or increase of Pension that may be due; and I hereby authorize my said Attorney to examine all papers or documents in relation to said claim on file in the Department at Washington City, or elsewhere, to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive for my exclusive benefit, the certificate which may be issued for said claim, which certificate I wish made payable at the Washington City, D. C. agency; to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed, and to do all things that I might or could do were I personally present. Hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said Attorney and Agent shall lawfully do in the premises.
John Young
Sworn to, Subscribed and Acknowledged before me the day and year above written, and I hereby certify that I believe the said John Young to be directly interested in said claim as set forth, and to be the identical party therein alleged.
John W. Head Justice of the Peace
State of New York } County of Schenectady } 55
It is Hereby Certified, that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me, Clerk of the Court of The County of Schenectady that John Young the party who has sworn to, and acknowledged the foregoing Declaration and Power of Attorney is the identical child of the reputed soldier aforesaid. I further certify, that John W. Head Esq. before whom the preceding affidavit and Power of Attorney were made and acknowledged, was, at the time of so doing, a Justice of the Peace, in and for said County, and that the signature purporting to be his, I believe to be genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of Office,
this Twenty first day of December 1852
A. P. Hornst County Clerk of said County
1. Claimant's name or names in full.—2. Post Office address. 3 "That he is the identical man," or, "that she is the widow of the identical man," or, "that he or she is the legal heir of the identical man," &c., &c. 4. Leave this line blank.—5. "He is," "she is," or "they are."—6. Revolutionary soldier's full name.—7. Claimant's signature.—8. Claimant's name.—9. Magistrate's signature. 10. "Identical," "widow of," or, "child of."—11. Magistrate's name.—12. Clerk's signature.
N. B.—Should two or more heirs join in the foregoing, the plural should be substituted for the singular number.

REJECTED
11.774
P. O.
James Young
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: List of suspended claims printed in 1852 shows cause of
Re-enlisted: suspension as follows: The rolls of Col. Vrooman's left for 1878. 1879. For 1881 have been examined and claimants name is not found thereon.
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contr
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

52, B 18
New York—
James Young Suspended.
Let to E. Holliday 31 March 1835 " " " " 20 April 1836 A. H. Maitland 19 th Dec r 1853.
197

State of New-York } ss. Schoharie County, }
Philip Bergh, of the town and county of Schoharie and State aforesaid, aged seventy three years and eleven months, who being duly sworn doth depose and say, that he was well acquainted with John Myers in the Revolutionary War and knows that he had command of a small company in Colonel Peter Vroman's Regiment, at the lower fort in Schoharie; that this deponent was in the service at different periods in Col. Vroman's regiment from the year 1777 to the year 1782 that during these periods of service he recollects to have seen the said John Myers in the service in the same regiment as commander of a company but how many different times he saw the said John Myers in the service he cannot say
N.B. the word "times" in the 2 nd line above was interlined before executed
his Philip K Bergh mark
Subscribed and sworn to this 28 th day of November 1835 before me
Daniel Larkin Justice
I certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Philip Bergh and have been for these twenty years past, and that he is a credible witness
Daniel Larkin

State of New York Schobare County, ss. James Young being duly sworn according to law, saith, that the company in which his revolutionary services were performed as stated in his declaration, was commanded by John Myers, during his term of service, but sometime before that, however, the company was commanded by Captain Miller, who has been broken or suspended on account of cowardice at the battle or skirmish at Cobleskill now in said county, as this deponent was informed and believes. — That he cannot discern that the said John Myers held a captain's commission at the time of this deponent's revolutionary services, but he knows that the said John Myers actually had command of the company as captain, during the different terms of this deponent's services. And as to the manner of this deponent's entering the service, he can only say that he was ordered in each time, as stated in his declaration. That it was not for any definite period that he can recollect of — That Schoharie was at that time a frontier town, much infested with hostile Indians and Tories, that there were no "continental or State troops" stationed there for any length of time that he can recollect of — That the town at least was poorly defended so that some of the inhabitants were murdered and scalped, and some taken off by the Indians, and the town at least burnt and and plundered by the enemy.
That such of the inhabitants as were liable to do military service were required to defend to defend the the frontier towns. That they were generally kept in the service so long as it was thought necessary for the safety of that section of country. That the hostile Indians, commonly made their appearance as early as the month of May, and generally continued about till late in the fall, before they went off. Now whether the officers had a legal right to call out the militia and keep them in the service as they were kept, he does not know, but he thinks the safety of the place required it. That the bigger part of the soldiers lived nearer the Garrison than himself, and he thinks they probably some of them were kept in the service longer than himself on that account.
That he does not recollect any thing about the amount of his pay.
Subscribed and Sworn This 21 st day of March 1836 Before me David Miles Justice of the Peace
James Young

State of New York Schoharie County, ss.
I, Abraham A. Keyser, Clerk of the County of Schoharie, do hereby certify, that Daniel Sartin, whose signature appears to the taking of the annexed affidavit of Philip Burgh, was, at the time said affidavit purports to have been taken, a Justice of the peace of said county; And that I am well acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe the signature to the taking of the affidavit, and to the certificate underwritten, to be genuine.
And I further certify, that John D. Bonny, whose signature appears to the annexed affidavit of Jacob Enders, was at the time said affidavit purports to have been taken, a Commissioner of Deeds authorized to take affidavits, and further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said John D. Bonny, and verily believe the signature to the taking said affidavit, and certificate underwritten, to be genuine.
And I further certify, that David Miles, whose signature appears to the taking of the annexed affidavit of James Young, was, at the time said affidavit purports to have been taken, a Justice of the peace of said county; And I further certify that I am well acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe the signature to the taking of said affidavit, and certificate underwritten, to be genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and seal of Office, this 21, day of March, 1836.
A A Keyser Clerk

James Young N 1 '32 Suse
A. H. Markland Present

Washington Dec 13 th 1853.
Hon L. P. Waldo,
I enclose, herewith, additional evidence in the case of James Young of New York, suspended under 7 th June 1832. In a letter addressed to E. Holliday Esq on the 20 th April 1836, by the then Comm ee of Pensions, he was informed that the pay rolls of Col Peter Vroomans Reg t for the years 1778, 1779, 1780 & 1781 were in the Pension Office & that they discredited the statements made by James Young. I am now informed that the rolls cannot be found in the Pension Office. I find, however the name of John Myers under whom Young alleged he served. Young states, that a man named Miller first had command of the company in which he served but after the Siege of New York took command. There is a roll of Lieut Geo Myers on file in the case of Peter Vrooman N o 7 ad 32 I request that you will examine said roll for proof in case of said Young. You will also examine the papers in case of Jacob Schoenly, Bartholomew Serat N o 32 ad.
Yours &c
A. H. Markland

This was found Nov 28/03 in the case of widow of Peter Vroman Reg 18673
ATL 2

H. B. Warland Dec 19/53

276 Pension Office. 19 th Dec r 1853.
Sir,
The claim of James Young dec d of New York, has been examined.
No definite period of service has been proved: none of James' witnesses specifying the length of any of his tours. The date of James' death and of his widow's death have not been established, nor are the names and number of the children surviving, known. The marriage certificate of James and Elizabeth, is returned for proper authentication.
A. H. Markland Esqr. Washington. D. C.

Sir,
Schoharie N. Y. March 22, 1836
In relation to the application of James Young for a pension, it was stated in your letter of the 31, of March, 1835, "that the claimant set forth various long terms of service, in Col. Vroman's regiment of Militia, in Capt. John Myers company, during the year 1777 '78 '79 '80 '81 and '82, and that on examining a roll of the officers that it appeared that John Myers was a Lieutenant only in '82. The applicant's statement was likewise objected to on the ground that the Militia, except when classed, and detached in pursuance thereof, were called out occasionally only, and for short tours, varying from one to thirty days" and that "in view of a satisfactory examination of the case the claimant should particularize the manner in which he entered the service, whether pursuant to a draft or as one of a class, and how if otherwise. Mr. Young had made an affidavit of certain facts to explain away the objections raised against his claim. He says that previous to his entering the service, Capt. Miller had command of the company, and was broken or suspended in consequence of cowardice, &c. That Myers had command of the company afterwards, and he cannot swear he actually had a captain's commission. — That in corroboration of his statement he has proved by two credible witnesses, that John Myers did command a small company in Col. Vroman's regiment from '75 to '82, so that that fact stands legally proved proved. And as to the objection that the militia, except when classed and detached, &c. were called out for short tours, he says that Schoharie was a frontier town much infested with hostile Indians and Tories, and there were no continental or State troops stationed there for any length of time, and the town at best was but poorly defended, so that some of the inhabitants were murdered and some taken prisoners, and the town at least burnt and plundered. — That such of the inhabitants as were liable to do military service, were wanted to defend the town and neighbouring settlements. — That they were generally kept in the service so long as it was thought necessary for the safety of the place. — That the hostile Indians commonly made their appearance as early as in May, and continued till late in the fall before they went off. — And as to the manner of his entering the service, he can only say that he was ordered in each time as stated in his declaration, and that it was not for any definite time. — Now to establish the fact beyond all doubt, that the Militia in Col. Vroman's regiment, were called out as stated by Mr. Young, and actually kept in the service each year from '77 till '82 (whether legally or illegally can make no difference)

I would refer you to the Declarations of and affidavits of Jacob Schoolcraft, Bartholomew Smart, and Abraham Bergh of the town and county of Schoharie, and Johannes Werth of Cobleskill, in said county, and to that of John Dost Deitz of Bern, Albany county, and also that of Peter Vroman, of Montgomery county. The four first named persons are dead, and the two last named ones I believe are living. These six persons were all in the same service, stationed at the same place, they all belonged to capt. Abraham's company, in col. Vroman's regiment. They were called into the service in the same way, as early as the month of May in each year, and continued till in the fall, before they were discharged. They not only swore to these facts, but in each case there were, I think, at least two witnesses who proved the services. A certificate of pension issued in each case for as much as eighty dollars per annum. — Some of them I think were called into the service as early as the month of May 1777 and some were called in in the spring of '78 and all agree in saying, that they were kept in the service till late in the fall in each year up to '82. Now how these men should all receive pensions for the same kind of services, performed at the same time, in the same regiment, at the same place, ordered in in the same way, and detained in the service in the same manner, and Mr. Young be rejected I cannot discover, unless it be upon the ground that Myers was not a captain at the time, this to be sure furnished reason for doubt it was proper for Mr. Young to remove that doubt, which I trust he has satisfactorily done, by proving by two credible witnesses that Myers had command of a company in col. Vroman's reg't during the time Young was in the service. I do not know that the applicant can furnish any further evidence in his case than the affidavits enclosed and the declarations and affidavits above referred to and none on file at the Pension office. He therefore submits his case as it is. —
The certificate of Pension of Amos Smith, which you enclosed to me was received on the 15 th instant, but it came too late to relieve his wants, he was taken sick a day or two before, he lived to hear he had succeeded and was able to execute a power on the 16 th to draw his money, and on the 17 th he died in a state of extreme destitution. His widow will, however, receive the benefit of the money.
I am, respectfully your obedt Servt J. L. Edwards Esq Com. of Pensions Elihu Halliday