Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11,609, John Viele, New York

SERVICE
New York
Viele John
NUMBER
8.11609
carded.
CONTENTS
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Died Feb. 10 - 1840 (From A.B.)
8210 New York
John Vile
of Esopus in the State of N. York who was a Serjt Prio: in the Company commanded by Captain Van Buren of the Regt. — commanded by Col. Malcolm in the N. York line for 4 Mos. a Serjt. 4 20 " a Prio: }
Inscribed on the Roll of New York as the rate of 86 Dollars 66 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 16 th day of March 1833 — — — — — and also the H. & H. Brodhead Moodus
  Arrears to the 4th of Mar. '33  $173 33    Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 th 2 nd '33  43 33     $216 65  
Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by Sec. C. Tully Clerk Book E. Vol. 4 Page 34.

20.486 John Viole
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Hon. Brodhead

BRIEF in the case of  John Niele  of Esopus in the State of New York  (Act 7th June, 1839.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 76  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 1776 & 1777. 2 Private Gen. Capt. Tobias Van Busen — N. Jersey   1777 4 Sergeant Capt. F. Schoenmaker — N. York   1778 4 Private Capt. P. Suart & J. L. Leavitt — "   1779 8 Private Capt. Isaac Bogardus — "   1780 3 Artisan Capt. M. Pauline — Col. Malcolm   Various Terms in 1781 & 1782 more than 3 Private Capt. Bogardus  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None Stated  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Kingston — N. York  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary evidence, and four living witnesses  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? they are duly authenticated 
X  Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
W. Gordon — Examining Clerk.

State of New York Ulster County.
In the matter of for a the application Pension of John Wild
J. V. Gaasbeek Jr Atty.
20486
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4 mo. Ser of
20 mo. pri
$86.66

Ulster Com: Pleas
Of December term, one thousand eight hundred and thirty two -
Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832.
State of New York
Ulster County - ss: On the Eleventh day of December in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty Two, personally appeared in open Court, before the Judges of the court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Ulster proceeding according to the course of the Common Law, with a Jurisdiction unlimited in point of amount, and keeping a Record of their proceedings, now sitting, having a Clerk and Seal of their own. JOHN VILE a Resident of the town of Esopus in the County of Ulster, aged seventy six years, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath, make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated.
1. That he was born in the Village of Kingston, in Ulster County and State of New York on the thirteenth day of July in the year one thousand seven hundred and fifty Eight. 2 o That the Record of his age is contained in baptismal Records of the Dutch Church in the Village of Kingston in said County and State. 3 o That at the time he was called into service he lived in said Village, lived there since the Revolutionary war and now lives in the town of Esopus in the said County and State. 4. That he was drafted and volunteered but was not a Substitute in said Service.
2 months Witness
And the said John Vile Declares that in the years 1776 & 7 he served as a private soldier in the Company of Artillery commanded by Captain Tobias Van Buren now dead.

in the State of New Jersey for - - - - - "Two months" that the said Service commenced in the month of December and ended in the winter of said years - that he was discharged at Paramus in the State of New Jersey and returned home on Sled - that he received no written discharge and has no documentary evidence of his Service -
4 months And he further declares that in the said year 1777 he served as a Volunteer in the Company commanded by Captain Frederick Schoonmaker at Fort Moutgomery and in the town of Kingston for the term of Four Months not as a private Soldier but in the Capacity of a Sergeant that he received no written discharge from this Service and has no documentary evidence thereof
4 months And he further declares that in the year 1778 he was drafted and served in the Militia Company commanded by Captain Philip Smart for Two months stationed at Big Shandaken, and for another term of Two months in the detachment commanded by Captain John A. Kirtt stationed at Peter shorts in the town of Woodstock making together FOUR months for this years Service, that he was a private soldier in these Services, that he received no written discharge and has no documentary evidence thereof -
8 months And he further declares that in the year 1779 he served for the term of Eight months at Wappingers Creek & Fishkill in the County of Dutches and at Newburgh or where Newburgh is now built in Orange County that he enlisted for this term under Captain Jacob Pogardus late of the City of Albany deceased, and was employed as an artisan building Quarters at Wappingers and constructing Barracks and bunkers for the accommodation of the troops at Fishkill and Newburgh, that he was

discharged at Newburgh but does not recollect whether he received a written discharge & if he did it is now lost, and that he has no documentary evidence of his service -
3 Months Under John Low
And he further declares that in the year 1780 he served for the term of Three Months in the New York Lines in the company commanded by Captain Moses Cantine in Colonel Malcoms Regiment, at Honey point and on the Mohawk River at Fort Plain, that John Low of Pyston now living was a Lieutenant in said company whose affidavits of his service is hereto annexed - that he did not receive a written discharge from this service, that he volunteered and was not a substitute, and that this service was performed in the capacity of a private soldier, and that he has no documentary evidence thereof.
And the said John Vele further declares that in the years 1781 & 2 he also served for short terms of Single Months on the frontiers of Ulster County in the Minute men as they were then called, under Colonel Snyder of the Village of Kingston, that the Company of Captain Rogers to which he belonged was divided into classes who took their turn in the service, but that he cannot now particularly state the several places where he was stationed nor how long at each place, nor the officers names who commanded, but according to the best of his recollection he has served in each of the above years for more than three months and that the whole of his services during the Revolutionary war do amount to more than TWO Years.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any State.
Subscribed & sworn to the day and year aforesaid John Gile E. D. Moore First Judge
A. G. Hunsdenburgh Abr. A. Deyo } Judges
John Gile Declaration

Hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any state. Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid
We John Gorman a clergyman Residing in the town of Kingston in the county of Ulster and Peter Van Gaasbeek residing in the town of Kingston in said county hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with John Veele who hath subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be "Seventy Six" years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution that we concur in that opinion. Sworn and Subscribed the day & year aforesaid John Gorman P. V. Gaasbeek C. D. Ruffell First Judge A. H. Harnady John A. Deyo } Judges
And the court hereby declare their opinion, that after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named Justice of the peace
Ulster County ss, I Certify that I am personally acquainted with William Riefer, who subscribed and sworn to the above affidavit before me, that he is a creditable person - and that his statement is entitled to Credit Kingston Dec 10 th 1832 P. V. Gaasbeek Justice of the Peace

And the court further declares and certifies, that it appears to them that John Gasmann — who has signed the foregoing certificate is a clergyman Resident in the town of Kings in Ulster County, and that Peter VanGaasbeek Jr who has also signed the same, is a resident in the town of — in said County, and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I Jacob Snyder clerk of the County Courts in and for the County of Ulster. Do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court in the matter of the Application of Dohr Ville for a pension. In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office this eleventh day of December one thousand eight-hundred and thirty two.
Jacob Snyder

State of New York Ulster County
ss p: William Riefer of the town of Kingston in Ulster County aged 72 years a Soldier of the Revolution being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that he is well acquainted with John Vile a Soldier of the Revolution and now an Applicant for a pension, that this deponent was in the Service of the State of New York in the Militia thereof in the Revolutionary war, in the Company Com- manded by Captain Philip Swart, Stationed at Big Shandaken in said County, will know the said John Vile that the said John Vile belonged to the same Company with this deponent, that this deponent saw the said John Vile in said Service for two months in the Year 1778 - and also for Two Months in said Year Stationed at Peter Shorts in the town of Woodstock at a place called Little Shandaken under the Command of Peter Post a Lieutenant in Captain John D'Witt's Company of Attached Militia and knows that the said John Vile continued in said Service in the Capacity of a private Soldier for the period of "Four" Months, in said Year 1778 as above stated
and further saith Not. William Riefer Subscribed & Sworn this 25 th day of September 1832 Before me J. V. Gausbeck Esq. Justice of the peace
Ulster County ss, I Certify that I am personally acquainted with Wil- iam Riefer, who subscribed and sworn to the above affidavit before me, that he is a creditable person - and that his statement is entitled to Credit Kingston Dec 10 th 1832 J. V. Gausbeck Esq. Justice of the Peace

State of New York Ulster County
I John I Low of the town of Kingston Ulster County aged 77 years, being duly sworn depneth & saith that he is well acquainted with John Vile of the town of Esopus in said County, and now an Applicant for a pension that this deponent was a Lieutenant in the Militia Service in the New York lines in the Revolutionary war in the Company commanded by Captain Moses Cantine in the Three months Service in the Year 1780 and well knew the said John Vile, that the said John Vile belonged to the said Company as a private soldier, and served in said three months Service, and served at Haverstraw, and Tappan, and on the Mahawk river at Fort Plain that the said John Vile was a good soldier and is now a credible citizen whose statements are entitled to belief, and further saith not.
Sworn this 2 d day of October 1832 before me J. V. Gaasbeck Jr Justice of the peace
John I Low
Ulster County ss. I Certify that I am personally acquainted with John I Low who Sworn and Subscribed to the above affidavit before me that he is a credible person - and that his statement is entitled to Credit. Kingston Dec 10. 1832 J. V. Gaasbeck Jr. Justice of Peace

State Of New York Ulster County
§ Henry Masten Of the town of Kingston in the County of Ulster aged 78 years being duly Sworn deponent and Saith, that he is well acquainted with John Vile a Soldier Of the Revolution and now an Applicant for a pension that this deponent was in the Service of the United States in the Revolutionary war, and was in the Company comman- ded by Captain Frederick Schoonmaker, Lieutenant John C. Devitt, and well knew the said John Vile, that the said John Vile belonged to the same Company with this deponent that this deponent saw the said John Vile in the said Service for "three" Months in the Year 1777 and knows that the said John Vile continued to serve in said Corps in the the Capacity of a Sergeant until he was discharged
Henry Masten
Given this 3 rd day of October 1832 before me J. W. Gausbeek Jr. Justice of the peace
Ulster County ss. I certify that I am personally acquainted with Henry Masten who subscribed & Swore to the above affidavit before me that he is credible therefor and that his statement is entitled to Credit. Kingston Dec 10. 1832
J. W. Gausbeek Jr.
Justice of the peace

State of New York Ulster County } ss
Lawrence Kies of the town of Esopus in the County of Ulster aged 81 Years a Soldier of the Revolution being duly sworn says that he is well acquainted with John Kile of Esopus a Soldier of the Revolution and now an Applicant for a pension, that this deponent was in the United States Service in the Revolutionary war in Colonel Levi Parsons Regiment in Captain Peter Hasbroucks company of militia in the year 1776 & 1777 at Poughkeepsie in New Jersey, and well knew the said John Kile that this deponent saw the said John Kile in said service for about Two Months, and that the said Company was discharged at Poughkeepsie aforesaid.
And this deponent further says that he was in the said service on the western frontier and at Fort Montgomery & the taking of General Burgoyne in the year 1777 and 1778 and well remembers to have seen the said John Kile in said service, but more particularly remembers that when he was stationed at the House of Billy Brown in Little Rondout in Ulster County that the said John Kile was there but cannot say how long and further says that
Subscribed & sworn to this 31 st day of October 1832 before me Peter Van Gausbeck Justice of the peace
Lawrence Kies mark
Ulster County ss. I certify that I am personally acquainted with Lawrence Kies who subscribed & swore to the above affidavit before me, and that he is a credible person and that his statement is entitled to credit. Kingston Dec 10. 1832.
P. V. Gausbeck Justice of the peace

MMNF
June 24, 1926
Mrs. Emogene D. Champlaine 4180 Upton Ave., South Minneapolis, Minn.
Madam:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 11609 it appears that John Viele was born July 30, 1758 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York.
While a resident of Kingston, New York he enlisted in December 1776 and served two months as a private in Captain Tobias Van Buren's New York Company, then enlisted in 1777 and served four months as Sergeant in Captain Frederick Schoonmaker's New York Company.
He enlisted in 1778, served two months as private in Captain Philip Swart's Company and two months in Captain John L. DeWitt's New York Company as a private.
In 1779 he served eight months as artisan under Captain Jacob Bogardus in the New York Troops.
He enlisted in 1780 and served three months as a private in Captain Moses Cantine's Company, Colonel Malcolm's

New York Regiment.
He served three months in 1781 and three months in 1782 as a private in Captain Bogardus' Company, Colonel Snyder's New York Regiment.
He was allowed pension on his application executed December 11, 1832 while a resident of Esopus, Ulster County, New York. He died February 10, 1840.
There is no data on file as to his family.
Respectfully,
from A.B.
WINFIELD SCOTT Commissioner.

a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. John Vrie S.F. 11609
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Dec. 1776 2 mos Private Tobias Van Buren New York   1777 4 mos Sergt. Frederick Schoonmaker   1778 2 mos. Private Philip Smart   1778 2 mos. " John L. DeWitt   1779 8 mos. Artisan Jacob Bogardus   1780 3 mos Private Noah Eastline Malcom   1781 3 mos. " Bogardus Smyth   1782 3 mos. " Bogardus Brigadier  
Battles engaged in, not stated
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Kingston, Ulster Co., N.Y.
Date of application for pension, Dec. 11, 1832. His claim was allowed.
Residence at date of application, Coopers, Ulster Co., N.Y.
Age at date of application, on July 30, 1758. Kingston, Ulster Co., N.Y.
Remarks: No data as to family

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Niele which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? yes
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
†QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

RECORD DIVISION.
Department of the Interior, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Briefed by L.D.L.
Claim No. _____
Certificate No. _____
Claimant _____
Soldier John Diele
Service N.Y.
Additional Service Rev. War
No. _____ claim, State records _____, 190____
No claim, combination records _____, 190____
REMARKS:
No claim, except I#11609

Laytonville. N. C.
Nov. 19. 1908
Will you kindly send a copy of the pension papers of John Vile. who was a soldier in Ulster Co. New York. regiment. during Revolutionary War. h- (Mrs P. J.) Ada Vile Barr
Laytonville
North Carolina

STATE OF NEW-YORK, Ulster County Clerk's Office,
{ ss.
I Jacob Snyder, Clerk of the County of Ulster, and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County, Do hereby Certify, That Peter Van Gaasbeek Junior Esquire, was on the day of the date of the Certificate to the annexed affidavit, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Ulster, duly authorized to take affidavits, &c.; and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe the signature "P. V. Gaasbeek Jr" subscribed to the Certificate of the said annexed Affidavit to be genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the Seal of the said Court and County, this 15 th day of December 1832
Jacob Snyder

STATE OF NEW-YORK, } ss. Ulster County Clerk's Office, }
I, Jacob Snyder, Clerk of the County of Ulster, and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County, do hereby certify, That Peter Van Gaastbeck Jr. Esquire, was on the day of the date of the Certificate to the annexed affidavit, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Ulster, duly authorized to take affidavits, &c. and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe the signature "P. V. Gaastbeck Jr." subscribed to the Certificate of the said annexed Affidavit to be genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the Seal of the said Court and County, this 15 th day of December - 1832
Jacob Snyder

STATE OF NEW-YORK,
Ulster County Clerk's Office,
{ ss.
I Jacob Snyder, Clerk of the County of Ulster, and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County, Do hereby Certify, That Peter Van Gaasbeck Junior — Esquire, was on the day of the date of the Certificate to the annexed affidavit, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Ulster, duly authorised to take affidavits, &c.; and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe the signature "P. V. Gaasbeck Jr" ————— subscribed to the Certificate of the said annexed Affidavit to be genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the Seal of the said Court and County, this 15 th ————— day of December 1832
Jacob Snyder

STATE OF NEW-YORK, { ss. Ulster County Clerk's Office, }
I, Jacob Snyder, Clerk of the County of Ulster, and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County, do hereby certify, That Peter VanGaastbecke Junior Esquire, was on the day of the date of the Certificate to the annexed affidavit, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Ulster, duly authorized to take affidavits, &c. and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe the signature "Peter VanGaastbecke Jr" ————— subscribed to the Certificate of the said annexed Affidavit to be genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the Seal of the said Court and County, this 15 th ————— day of December 1832
Jacob Snyder

Reborn
11.609 INVALID.
File No. 11.609
John Vile Sergt New War
Act: June 1 st 82
Index: — Vol. 1 , Page 388
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1908 Dec. 1. Hist. 45 Mrs. P. J. Barr. A. & P. 1912 July 17. To Miss K. K. Vile letter in R. file 10947 Philip Vile. & 1926 June 24 Hist. 25-141. Enlojene D. Champagne MMK

Minneapolis, Minn.
4129 Upton Ave. So.
Apr. 9, 1926
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:-
Will you kindly send me the Pension record of Sergt. John Viele, who was born in 1758 and died in 1840. He was placed on the Pension roll of Ulster Co., N. Y. for service in the N. Y. Continental line.
Very truly yours,
(Mrs.) Emogene H. Champlin