Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 18341, John Witderstein, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Witderstein, John Margaret
W 18341
CONTENTS
Name also spelled Witderstone, Witherstine, Weatherstine. Widderstien. Widterstine

Ithaca N.Y. March 2. 1879 J. L. Edwards Esq.
Dr. Sir
I herewith transmit the application of the heirs of Margaret Witherspoon for the Pension to which she was entitled up to June 16. 1879 the day of her death
Yours Respectfully &c
J. A. Washburn

Smart Certificate
Madison May 22 1820
12497 A
New York
John Weatherstone
Hudson in the state of New York
who was a Private in the regiment commanded by
Colonel Samuel of the New York
line, for the term of five Years
scribed on the Roll of New York
at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence on
the 7 of June 1819
Certificate of Pension issued the 29 of July 30
and sent to Mr. Preston
Little Falls, Herkimer Co
arrears to 4th of Sept 1819 23 46
semi-ann. all'ce ending
2 28/30
$23 46
{ Revolutionary claim, } { Act 18th March, 1818. }
W. S. Clark

4660 New York Albany Margaret Widdernstein widow of John Widdernstein who served in the Revolutionary war, as a N.Y. Private
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1848. Ending 16 June 1848
Certificate of Pension issued the 4 day of April 1849 and sent to
J. A. Rasbach Berliner N.Y.
on Roll of Pensioners under act 2, 1848, Page 242 Vol. 4.
Widdernstein Waldstein

In Matter of John Weatherwax applica- tion etc.
New York line Col. Gansevoort Regt 8 June 1777 War
Correct by Robt G. ... John Weatherwax Adm't

State of New York
Herkimer County ss
On the Twelfth day of June one thousand eight hundred and nineteen personally appeared before me John W m Combs one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Herkimer, John Weatherstone and being duly sworn saith that the paper hereto annexed is the original discharge granted him by General George Washington on the eighth day of June 1783. and saith that he did enlist on the eighth day of June 1777. in the army of the United States in the New York line of the continental establishment into Captain Thomas De Witt Company in Colonel Peter Gansevoort Regiment, and that he did faithfully serve against the common Enemy in said Army from the period of his enlistment until his discharge hereto annexed was given him; and was at Fort Stanwix while it was besieged twenty one days by the common enemy and went in the expedition against the Indians under General Sullivan. was in a Skirmish on Staten Island and was engaged in the taking Cornwallis besides various other engagements and skirmishes during the aforesaid period of his services and saith he is poor has not property to afford him a livelihood and will on the twelfth day of July next be fifty four years of age and that it is the same man mentioned in the annexed discharge and that he stands in need of the aid of his Country for support and that he hath no other evidence of his said services. The above declaration is made in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war
declared and sworn to before me the day year above written
John Weatherstone
I John W m Combs one of the Judges of Herkimer Common Pleas as aforesaid do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said John Weatherstone did serve in the revolutionary war as stated in the preceding declaration against the common enemy, and that he is poor and stands in need of assistance from his Country for support; and I now transmit the proceedings and testimony taken and had before me to the Secretary for the department of war pursuant to the directions of the Statute in such case made and provided.
J W m Combs a Judge of Herk Co. C. Pleas

Herkimer County So. John John Fort Miff and Adam Katter both of the County aforesaid being duly sworn say that they were during the revolutionary war well acquainted with John Weatherstone in the within declaration mentioned and described and say he did enlist for and serve faithfully in the Regi- ment of the New York line therein stated for the period therein mentioned, and that both these deponents belonged to the same Regiment and further say they were present and know that the said John Weather- stone is the same man and that he was on the eighth day of June 1783. honorably discharged by a discharge from General George Washington and that they believe he stands in need of aid from his country for support and further say not.  Sworn to this seventh day John Fort Miff of June 1819 before me
J. M. Combs
Attest Peter
A Judge of Herk. Com. Pleas
State of New York } Clerk's office } p. v. I certify that John Herkimer County } M c Combs Esquire whose signature appears to the foregoing proceedings was at the several dates thereof and now is one of the judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Herkimer and that the same Court is a Court of record in the State of New- York - I. testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of our Court at Herkimer this 14 th day of June 1819 Walter Fish Clerk

Mar 2 Revolutionary Claims Eliz. Harter Mrs 245 1. Mar 26 Mendenstein 7 July 18 25 21
Hon. J. L. Edwards Comf. of Pensions Washington
L. A. Rasbach Herkimer N. York

Sir
Wethersfield N.Y. Feby 23. 1839
Enclosed I forward You the affidavits required to prove the identity of Margaret Witterstein that she is the relict of John Witterstein deceased who was the only Revolutionary Soldier & Pensioner by that name in this section of Country. It may be well to say that sometimes the name is written "Wetherstone" "Wetherston" and sometimes the last Syllable is "Stine" Yet it is all the same name there having been no other family by that name in this section of Country and those who reside here now are all of the same family and the children of the said John differ in the writing of their names
I also send the affidavits identifying Elizabeth Harten as the relict of the identical Adam Harten who was the Revolutionary Soldier and Pensioner which explains why his name was sometimes called John Adam, or Hon Adam B.
Should these affidavits be satisfactory it is the request of the Claimants that You forward the Pay Certificates to me. Should You want further explanation it can be had as the Claimants it seems always resided here and all the persons about in this town are well acquainted with them particularly those of advanced age
I am Sir Respectfully Your obedt Servt
J. A. Rasbach
Hon J. L. Edwards Compt. of Pensions

Adm o Act 48 at $80 per annum, ending 16 June 1848. Payable to surviving children. (names within)
My

State of New York } Herkimer County } ss. On this 2 nd day of March 1849 before the undersigned justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid duly authorized by law to administer oaths personally appeared Abraham Witherstine of the town of Herkimer in the said County and State aged forty two years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath say that his mother Margaret Witherstine widow of John Witherstine both late of the said town of Herkimer drew a pension under the acts of Congress passed June 17. 1844 at the rate of Eighty dollars per annum for the Revolutionary services of her late husband, John Witherstine deceased the father of this deponent. That his mother the said Margaret Witherstine died on the Sixteenth day of June one thousand Eight hundred & forty Eight in the said town of Herkimer. That she left her surviving seven children whose names are John Witherstine, Catharine Fulmer, Margaret Fotts, David Witherstine, Mary E. Reed, Betsey Stearns, and Abraham Witherstine this depo- nent, who are each over twenty one years of age And this deponent makes this declaration in behalf of himself and his said brothers & sisters, who, are the only children the said Margaret Witherstine left her surviving. In order to draw the pen- -sion which the said Margaret Witherstine was entitled up to the time of her decease (Sworn to and subscribed) this 2 nd day of March 1849
J. S. Rasbach Justice
Abraham Witherstine
I certify that the above declaration is personally known to me, and that Margaret Witherstine deceased was the same individual represented in the above affidavit, that she was personally known to me
J. S. Rasbach Justice

STATE OF NEW YORK, } ss. HERKIMER COUNTY,
I, STANDISH BARRY, Clerk of the County of Herkimer, do certify that
John A. Hartwell Esquire, whose name is subscribed to the certificate of the proof or acknowledgment of the annexed instrument in writing and endorsed thereon, was at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment a
Justice of the peace in and for said county, dwelling in the said county, and duly authorized to take the same; and that I am well acquainted with his hand-writing, and very believe his name subscribed to the said certificate to be his genuine signature, and that the same is acknowledged according to the laws of this State.
In Witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said county, at Herkimer, this 1 day of March, A. D. 184
S. Barry Clerk By J. H. Woodruff Clerk.

3612 ✓ 2514
Act July 7. 1838
Manned 2 nd Aug 1786-
Returned since 19 June 1835-
No deduction
Admitted
Pm old 2 years
J. A. Rusback Esq. Herkamer New York

State of New York Herkimer County
on this third day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty Eight personally appeared before the court of Common Pleas of the County of Herkimer in the state of New York before the Judges thereof in open Court Margaret Witterstein a resident of the Town of Herkimer in the County of Herkimer and state aforesaid aged Sixty Eight Years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath say make the follow- ing declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the pro- -vision made by the act of Congress passed July 7, 1838. Entitled "An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows" That she is the widow of John Witterstein who was a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress of the 18 th May 1828 and she further declares that she was married to the said John Witterstein on the second day of August in the Year seventeen hundred and Eighty Six that her husband the aforesaid John Witterstein died on the nineteenth day of June in the Year Eighteen hundred and thirty Five that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the first of January seventeen hundred and thirty four viz at the time above stated and that she has not been married since his death and now remains his widow
Subscribed by making her mark and sworn to in open Court before me October 3 rd 1838
Margaret her Witterstein mark
John Dyer Clerk
And I John Dyer the clerk aforesaid do certify that the said Court of Common Pleas is a court of record and that the above deponent appeared in open court before the Judges of said Court and subscribed the fore- -going declaration by making her mark and was sworn and stated the above declaration to be correct. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of office the 3 rd day of October 1838 John Dyer Clerk

State of New York Herkimer County
John A Rasbach of Herkimer in said County being duly sworn depose and saith that on the fourth fourth day of October instant he examined the record of Marriages of the Reverend Abraham Rose recently deceased and who as this deponent has always been informed, and was so informed by George Rose recently the son of the said Abraham Rose recently, was a minister of the Gospel and pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church at German Flatts during the Revolutionary war and after the war to until his death. That the said records were in the possession of the said George Rose recently. That the said George Rose recently is quite an aged man, and informed this deponent that the said records were all in the hand writing of his father the said Abraham. That the said George explained to this deponent the particulars of the said records and is quite conversant with the said records, and informed this deponent, that at the death of his father the said Abraham the records came into his possession and have remained in his custody and care ever since, and that owing to ill health & dimness of his eyesight the said George cannot now distinctly read writing made with pale ink as that which has much faded from time, but can read that which is plain. That this deponent after having the records explained to him by the said George, examined the records and found an entry in the said records of marriages that in Seventeen hundred and eighty six on the first day of August John Widerstein was married to Margaret Kessler. That the records are precisely in the figures and words to wit,
"1786 d 1 ten augt. Johannes Widerstein und Margaret Kessler" — and this deponent further says that the foregoing extract is a true extract from the said record and the figures and words of the said extract although somewhat pale on the said record, are plain and distinct, that the said George explained to this deponent the word "Melch" in the said record to be that Melch hat was the given name of the father of the said Margaret, and that the said Abraham the father of the said George did frequently insert the given name of the parent, or the initials, so as to distinguish it from others of the same name —
Sworn and subscribed before me this 11 day of October 1838
John Dyar Clerk
John A Rasbach

State of New York Herkimer County } ss
Adam Raskbach of Herkimer in said County being duly sworn, says that he is sixty years of age and that he has been acquainted with Margaret Witterstein the widow of John Witterstein deceased, who was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States - about forty years - and for that space of time with the exception of a few years he resided in the same neighborhood with them, and for a long time within half a mile of the said John & Margaret, that the said John & Mar- garet had and brought up a family of children - That he always understood that the said Margaret was the daughter of Melchior Fisher deceased - That the said John Wit- terstein died about three years ago as near as he can now recollect, and that he left a widow the said Margaret who has not since been married and who now remains the widow of the said John and who as this deponent is informed, is now making application for a pension as the widow of the said John Witte- rstein deceased.
Adam Raskbach
Subscribed and sworn before me this 12 day of October 1838
Charles Gray a Judge of Herkimer County courts and I do hereby certify that I am acquainted with the said Adam Raskbach and have known him for more than eighteen years and that he is a person of fair character and his statement as entitled to full credit and that the word "his" was interlined in the foregoing Affidavit before the same was sworn to by said Adam Charles Gray Judge

State of New York County of Herkimer ss. John Shell of Herkimer in the County and State aforesaid, who is in his Seventy third Year as near as he can now recollect, having no record of his age, who being first duly sworn before me the undersigned Justice of the peace of Herkimer in said County, on his oath says that he was brought up and always has resided in the town of Herk- -imer. That he was acquainted with John Wider- -stein previous to the Revolutionary war, that the said John Widerstein was a cousin to his deponent that he also knew when the said Widerstein returned from the service. That he was also acquainted with Margaret Widerstein the wife of the said John Widerstein when she was a girl and before she was married to the said John Widerstein and which acquaintance with her commenced shortly after the the Revolutionary war. That she is the daughter of Melchert Eisler, and before her marriage her name was Margaret Eisler sometimes spelled Caster - that the said John Widerstein died about three years since or more, that he left the said Margaret his widow. That the said John Widerstein and the said Margaret his wife always resided near this deponent. That the said John Wider- -stein in his life time received a pension. That to the knowledge of this deponent there was no man residing in this place except the said John Wider- -stein by that name who was a Revolutionary Soldier. and also says that to his knowledge there was no person by that name except the said John residing in this section who was a pensioner. and from his general acquaint- -ance, he thinks if there had been any one ex- -cept the said John Widerstein he should have known them as he knew most if not all the persons who resided in

that section of Country who were Revolutionary Soldiers or Revolutionary Pensions.
That he is well acquainted the said Margaret Witterstein the widow of the said John Witterstein that since his death she has not been married and that she remains his widow now
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 23 rd day of February 1839
John Schell
John A. Rasbach Justice of the Peace
and I the said Justice do further certify that I am well acquainted with the said John Schell the above deponent, and have been acquainted with him upwards of Twenty Years. That he is a man of good Character and his statements are entitled to full Credit and belief.
J. A. Rasbach Justice of the Peace

State of New York Herkimer County } ss
Abraham G. Rosecrantz of the Town of Little Falls in said County being duly sworn according to law - says that he is the son of the late George Rosecrantz deceased and the grandson of the Rev d Abraham Rosecrantz who in his life time was the Minister of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church at Herkimer and Germanflats. That this deponent was always informed and believed and now believes that the said Rev d Abraham Rosecrantz Rev d Abraham Rosecrantz as such minister solemnized marriages and kept a book of records of marriages and baptisms. which said book of records was after his death in the possession and control of the said George Rosecrantz deceased until his decease since which time it has been in the possession and is now in the possession of this deponent. he being the son & executor of the the said George Rosecrantz deceased That he this deponent is nearly thirty five years of age
That he has this day examined said book of records of Marriages and finds an entry on said record that on the first day of August one thousand seven hundred and eighty six Johannes Wedderstein and Margrette Melch. Kesslar were married which said record is in the figures and words following to wit " 1 st aug t Johannes Wedderstein und Margrette Melch. Kesslar " That the foregoing is a true Extract. from the record of Marriages of the Rev d Abraham Rosecrantz
the words. "said in the 18 th line and the words "were married" in 21 st line interlined. and are erased in 8 th line before the execution of the above
Dated January 31. 1839
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 31 day of January 1839
Abraham G. Rosecrantz
John A. Rathbun Justice And I the said Justice do certify that I am

well acquainted with Abraham S. Rose, and the deponent to the foregoing, that he is a man of good standing in society, that he is a man of good character and that his statements are entitled to full credit
John A. Barbaugh Justice
State of New York
Herkimer County ss I John Dyar Clerk of said county do hereby certify that John A. Barbaugh Esq: before whom the annexed affidavits purport to have been taken was at their dates a justice of the peace in and for said county duly elected and qualified and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said justice and hereby believe the signatures are genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said county this 23 rd February 1839
Dyar Clerk

State of New York County of Herkimer
Be it Known, that on this Seventeenth day of December A. D. 1853 before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared Abraham With- erstone resident of Herkimer in said County, and made oath according to law that 3  he is a child of the identical John Witherstone whose name, under Act of May 15, 1828 has been placed on the New York Pension Roll at the rate of eighty dollars Dollars per annum.
That 4  he is credibly informed that the said Pension may and ought to be increased from its commencement and during its continuance; that 5  he is directly interested as a claimant in said increase, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence as my Agent may use in prosecuting said claim.
Countermanding and revoking all Powers of Attorney and authority heretofore given, I hereby constitute and appoint SAMUEL M. KNIGHT , of Washington City , my true and lawful Attorney to prosecute the claim of John Witherstone for any amount of Revolutionary Pension, or INCREASE OF PENSION that may be due; and for the purpose of establishing additional service by the soldier for whose military duty in the Revolution the aforesaid Pension was granted, I hereby authorize my said Attorney to apply for and obtain from State archives or other sources, certified proofs of such service. To examine all papers or documents in relation to said service, on file in the Departments at Washington City or elsewhere; to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive for my benefit the Certificate for INCREASE which may be issued in satisfaction of said claim, which certificate I wish made payable at the Pension Agency of this State; to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed, and to do all things that I might or could do were I personally present. Hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said Agent and Attorney shall lawfully do in the premises.
Abraham Witherstone
Sworn to, Subscribed and Acknowledged before me the day and year above written, and I hereby certify that I believe the said Abraham Witherstone to be directly interested in said claim as set forth, and to be the identical party therein alleged, in whose claim I am in no wise interested.
David Rube B. Indian
State of New York County of Herkimer
It is Hereby Certified, that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me, Clerk of the Court of Herkimer County that 4  John Witherstone was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States, at the rate of $50.00 per annum,* and that he died on the 19 th day of June Eighteen Hundred and forty  fifty leaving surviving the following named ( widow and ) children and none other, to wit: Abraham, David, John, Melchert, Henry, Catherine, Mary, Margaret, Sarah, Anna, Mary & Elizabeth
It is further certified that 2  David Rube Boeck Esq. before whom the preceding affidavit and Power of Attorney were made and acknowledged, was at the time of so doing a duly authorized Justice of the Peace in and for said county, and that the signature purporting to be his, I believe to be genuine; and further, that in the within claim for Increase of Pension I am in no degree interested.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of Office,
this 17 th day of December 1853
John C. Pray
1. Claimant's name or names in full.—2. Post Office address. 3. "That he is the," or "that she is the," or "that she is the widow of," or "that he, she, or they are the child or children of," &c. 4. Pensioner's full name.—5. State the Act if known.—6. Give the State where pensioned.—7. Name the yearly amount received.—8. "He is," "she is," or they are." 9. Claimant's signature.—10. Magistrate's signature.—*If the Pensioner be living, this part of the Clerk's certificate should be omitted. 11. Here name each of the survivors.—12. Magistrate's name.—13. Clerk's signature. N. B.—Should two or more heirs join in the foregoing, the plural should be substituted for the singular.

March 17, 1938
John Witderstein W. 18341 BA-J/AWF
Mr. Roger F. Williams 2 Rock Street Alexandria Bay New York
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to John Witherstine, soldier of the War of the Revolution, from Herkimer, New York.
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in pension claim, W. 18341, based upon the military service of John Witderstein; the name is shown, also Weatherstine, Widderstien, Witderstone, Witherstone, Widterstine, and Witherstine.
John Witderstein was born July 12, 1762, place not stated, nor were the names of his parents shown.
John Witderstein enlisted June 8, 1777, and served as private in Captain Thomas DeWitt's company, in Colonel Peter Gansevoort's New York regiment, and in Captain George Sytez's company in Colonel Van Schaick's 1st New York regiment; he was in the siege of Fort Stanwix, expedition against the Indians under General Sullivan, skirmish on Staten Island, and the battle at Yorktown, was discharged June 8, 1783.
He was allowed pension on his application executed June 7, 1819, at which time he was living in Herkimer, New York. He died in Herkimer, June 19,

1835.
John Witderstein married August 1 or 2, 1786, Margaret Kessler (Casler). She was born February 7, 1770, and was the daughter of Melchert Kessler, name of her mother not given.
The widow, Margaret Witderstein, was allowed pension on her application executed October 3, 1838, at which time she was living in Herkimer, New York. She died in Herkimer, June 16, 1848.
The following children survived their mother-- Catharine Fulmer, Margaret Folts, Mary E. Reed, Elizabeth of Betsey Stevens, John, Melchert, David, and Abraham, who signed "Witherstine" in 1849, and was then aged forty-two years and living in Herkimer, New York.
John Schell or Shell aged seventy-three years in 1839, then a resident of Herkimer, New York, stated that he was a cousin of the soldier, John Witderstein.
The papers on file in this claim contain no further discernible family data.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Rev WIDOW, &c.
File No. 18341
Margaret Widderstien widow of John Widderstien Dis Rev War
Act: Feb 2 d 48
Index:—Vol. m , Page 343
[Arrangement of 1870.]

1906 Feb 28 - History to Hon Geo. W.
Farris. Terre Haute. Ind.
M. B. H.
1908 July 2. Hist. to Jas. Cristman
Kalamazoo, N.Y. A.E.P.
1913 May 3. Hist to N.P.
Small. AW.
1931 July 10 - Hist to P. F.
Hooker, Calif.
88 - m ch. 17 - Hist to Roger Williams

June - 15 - 1900 - Mrs. Jos. Sheaff Halcorn Ills,
1/23. May 3. Hist. D. N. P. Small. Aw.
No. 73
115.94
Name: John Witderstein Rank: Private Comp'y: _____ Reg't: New York Line  Rev'y
New York
} Agency.
RATE PER MONTH, AND DATE OF COMMENCEMENT.

11499
P. O. See 11235
Service: _____
John Weatherstone
Enlisted: W. 18341 , 18
Discharged: _____, 18
REJECTED
Application filed: _____
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____

4,235 P. O. John Widenstein Service: _____ Enlisted: _____, 1 Discharged: _____, 1 Application filed: _____, 1 Alleges: _____ Re-enlisted: _____ Consolidated with O.W. Inv. File # 46511 Attorney: _____

V N York Margaret Miderstien let. to Hon. A. Loomis 17. Jan '39
Act 7. July 1838

No. 38,684
John Widerstein - deceased,
(Heirs of)
New York
permitted under act 15 May 1828
Let. S. M. Knight, January 7/32
Rejected
H 1199
11235
Rev
Act 25 May 1828
Act June 7. 1832

State of New York
John Wetherbee's act of 1828 to what time paid?
ND
John Hanny Esq.
John Wildenstein at $80. pr an. died 19th June 1835 & paid to that time. — S. H. H.

4561 a. New York
Margaret Weddersteen widow of John Weddersteen, who was a private in the Revolution
Rep 22 Jan 1844
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.
Certificate of Pension issued the 22 nd day of January 1844 and sent to
J. A. Rasback Herkimer, New York
[Act of March 3, 1843.]
Recorded in Book A Vol. 1 Page 258.

Albany 3612
Margaret Widderstien widow of John Widderstien
who was a pensioner under the Act of May 1828 and who died on the 19 th June 1835 of Herkimer Co., in the State of N. York who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain of the  command by in the Revolution time for 2 years
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 80 Dollars ————— Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 26. day of July 1839, and sent to J. A. Rasbach Herkimer, N. Y.
Arrears to the 4th of March 1839 240.00 Semi-annual allowance ending 1. Sept. 4 40.00 $280.00
{ Act July 7, } 1838. }
Recorded by D. Brown Clerk Book A. Vol. 2 Page 109
Such rep to J. A. Rasbach

By His EXCELLENCY GEORGE WASHINGTON, Esq; General and Commander in Chief of the Forces of the United States of America.
THESE are to CERTIFY that the Bearer hereof John Weatherstone Private — in the the first New York Regiment, having faithfull- ly served the United States Six Years — and being inlisted for the War only, is hereby DISCHARGED from the American Army.
GIVEN at HEAD-QUARTERS the 8 th June 1783
G Washington
By His EXCELLENCY's
Command;
J Humboldt
REGISTERED in the Books of the Regiment,
J Humboldt
Adjutant.
THE above John Weatherstone has been honored with the BADGE of MERIT for for P. W. Your faithful Service.
Col Van Dyck Lt Col

HEAD-QUARTERS, June 8 th 1783.
THE within CERTIFICATE shall not avail the Bearer as a Discharge, until the Ratification of the definitive Treaty of Peace; previous to which Time, and until Proclamation thereof shall be made, He is to be considered as being on Furlough.
GEORGE WASHINGTON.
THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES OF THE UNITED STATES
John Nitderstein N.Y. W. 18341

Washington D.C.
January 4 1854
Hon Com. of Peers Sir
The name of John Wirtstein is borne on the auditor's list of Berks Co. M. Inst. under Act of 15 th May 1828 as a Musician at Eighty dollars per Annum. (see Preston Resolutions)
I herewith enclose as authority for my enjoining power of att d from a Chaise of the President and desire respectfully to be informed if he was not entitled under the Act above named to Eighty-eight dollars per annum -
Very Respectfully Your obed Servt L. M. Wright

State of New York
(Herkimer County) ss
On this ninth day of September one thousand Eight hundred and forty three Personally appeared before the undersigned a justice of the peace in and for the said County of Herkimer Margaret Witterstein a resident of the town of Herkimer in the said County of Herkimer aged seventy three Years the seventh day of February last who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress passed on the third of March 1843 granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary war. That she is the widow of John Witterstein who was a private and served in the Army of the Revolution under enlistments to the close of the war, That the annual amount of Pension which she received under the act of July 7. 1838 was Eighty dollars. She further declares that she is still a widow.
Sworn and subscribed on the day and year above written before me
her Margaret X Witterstein mark
J. A. Rabback Justice
Witnes David Witterstein
I hereby certify that Mrs. Witterstein the declarant named in the above declaration as she alleges never could write and therefore executed the above by making her mark J. A. Rabback Justice
And I further certify that Mrs. Witterstein the above declarant is personally known to me and has been for more than thirty years and that she drew a pension under the act of July 7. 1838 J. A. Rabback Justice

4037
Margaret Wedderstein
$80.
J. H. Rasback Aurora N.Y.

State of New York Arkansas County p:
I Certify that John A. Pasbach Esquire is a Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly elected & qualified and that I am well acquainted with his handwriting & justly believe his signature to said the within Draft & also the within Certificate is genuine.
In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of said County Sept 11th 1843.
E. A. Munn Clerk

Herkimer (New York) June 6, 1828.-
Sir,
John Weathurstone (Weiderstein) of the town of Herkimer, in the County of Herkimer, N.Y. enlisted as a private into Capt. DeWitt's Company Col. Gansevoort's regiment for during the revolutionary war, & by consolidation came into the Capt. Becker Col. Van Schaick's regt. and served to the close of the war - and was honorably discharged. This enlistment must have been, I think as early as 1777 - - Under the act of 1818 he was placed upon the pension list and was struck off in 1825 under the act of 1820 as having some property. His discharge is on file with his pension in the proper department.
I am not advised what rules are established as to the proofs in this class of cases. I think his proofs on file will entitle him to the benefits of the late acts - and since the law may be placed on the pension list accordingly. If your Department should think these proofs defective, I will request the proper instructions and forms and a copy of the "Discharge & Indorsement thereon" on file -
Soliciting an answer
I am Sir
Yours Michael Saffery

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W. L. Edwards Esq. Compt. of Pensions Washington D.C.

Heckman W. Sept 11 1843
Sir
Enclosed I forward the claim of Margaret Wetterstein for Pension under the act of March 3. 1843. She is the widow of John Wetterstein who was a pensioner under the act of 1828. She recd. a pension under the act of 1838
J. L. Edwards Esq., Compt. of Pensions
Your Obel Servt J. A. Washburn

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N.Y.
Rel?
Margaret Morrison,
Cl. March 1845
Spec. Maria Salmas 29 1843
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Hortons Mt. Dec 25, 1843
Sir
Enclosed I return the applications of Mr Maria Gehman and of Mrs Margaret McAlister for pension under the act of 1843. The claim of Mr Gehman when before sent was supposed to be complete, but the clerk had casually omitted affixing the seal.
Yours Respectfully &c. J. A. Nash
J. S. Edwards Esq. Compt. of Pensions

In the Matter of John Weidenstein and Weatherstone -
of Herkimer New York.
Claim petition under Act of 1828.
Hoffman & Hunt agents Herkimer N. York.

No of orig Pay 69 REVOLUTIONARY CLAIMS.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
2 July 1828.
John Wilderstein — of Herkimer — in the County of Herkimer — in the State of New York — has applied to the Secretary of the Treasury for the benefits of the act, entitled "An Act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the Revolution," approved the 15th of May, 1828. He states that he enlisted in the Continental line of the army of the Revolution, for and during the war, and continued until its termination, at which period he was a Private — in captain George Sietz's company, in the first regiment of the New York — line; and that he received a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars, provided by the resolve of the 15th of May, 1778; and further, that he was not on the 15th day of May, 1828, on the pension list of the United States, and that he has received as a pensioner since the 3d of March, 1826, Nothing!
The Third Auditor is requested to report how far the several statements are corroborated by the records in his office.
By order of the Secretary, A. Dickinson
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
THIRD AUDITOR'S OFFICE,
5 th July 1828
It appears by the records in this office, that a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars has been issued to John Witherswine in the New York line
It further appears that John Witherswine is now on the pension list of the any — — — — — agency, and has been so since the 3 d March 1826 at the rate of  dollars per month.
John Hagner Aud

Revolutionary Claims.
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Form of a Declaration to be made by the Non-Commissioned Officers, Musicians, and Privates.
For the purpose of obtaining the benefits of the act, entitled "An act for the relief of certain surviving Officers and Soldiers of the Army of the Revolution," approved on the 15th of May, 1828, I, John Weiderstein of Herkimer in the county of Herkimer in the State of New York do hereby declare, that I enlisted in the Continental Line of the Army of the Revolution, for and during the war, and continued in its service until its termination; at which period, I was a * private — in Captain George Sietz Company, in the first  first Regiment, of the New York Line. And, I also declare, that I afterwards received certificates for the reward of eighty dollars; to which I was entitled, under a resolve of Congress, passed the 15th of May, 1778.
And I further declare, that I was not, on the fifteenth day of May, 1828, on the Pension List of the United States. † and that my discharge signed by the Commander in Chief has been deposited in the War Office on my application for a pension.
Witness my hand, this twenty fifth day of June , in the year one thousand eight hundred & twenty eight.
John Weiderstein
Before me, ‡ Charles Gray of Herkimer in the State of New York personally appeared, this day, Christopher Bellingr and Jacob Weber of the said county, who did severally make oath that John Weiderstein by whom the foregoing declaration was subscribed, is generally reputed and believed to have been a soldier in the Army of the Revolution, in manner as therein stated.
Witness my hand, this 26 th day of June in the year 1828.
Charles Gray Compt. &c
I, Elijah Beckwith Clerk of the Court of the County of Herkimer in the State of New York do hereby certify, that Charles Gray before whom the foregoing affidavits were sworn, was, at the time, a § Commissioner and duly empowered to administer oaths. & take affidavits to be read in Court. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the [L. S.] said Court, this 26 th day of June 1828
Elijah Beckwith Clerk
* Sergeant, Corporal, Musician, or Private, as the case may be.
† The claimant, though not on the pension list on the 15th May, 1828, may have been on the list on or since the 3d of March, 1826, and afterwards stricken off: if so, he will add, and that I have received of the United States, as a pensioner, since the 3d of March, 1826, the sum of dollars, paid to me by the Agent for paying pensions in the State of
‡ Here insert a Justice of the Peace, or other Magistrate duly empowered to administer oaths.
§ Justice of the Peace, or otherwise, as the case may be.

Holcomb
June 10 th 1900
To The Pension Department Washington, D. C.
Can you give me any data or information to help me establish my right with the Daughters of the Revolution. My ancestor on my father's side is either Henry or John Withers my father still lives although quite old. This would be his grand father he does not remember which it was. His home was Herkimer

New York or in the vicinity of Berkshires. Please give me an early reply.
On my mother's side from the State of Connecticut or Rhode Island do you have any record of Brooks or Horey if so please inform me my ancestors on my mother's side are dead & I have never heard whether any on that side were in the Revolution or not but want very much to find out. Brooks was my mother's father & Horey was her mother's name they both came from these two states. I think Horey was from Rhode Island though I am not positive & the other one from Connecticut & it might be right the

(Please send me an early Reply)
other way, or reverse, as they were no doubt pilgrims. I did not know but they might have had parents in the Revolution.
This Brooke & Hovey moved to New York State in an early date which I am not able to state, & the Withershire which I have mentioned was from Holland. I cannot think of any more which would be of any help to you.
Respectfully Yours Mrs Joseph Skeaf. Holcomb
(Box 91.)
Ogle Co Ill.

(By any extra charge) (please inform me.)

Denver, Colo. June 10th, 1931 Department of the Interior Bureau of Pensions - Washington D. C.
Will you please give me a statement of the military history of Heinrich (or Henry) Wilderstein - or Witterstein a soldier of the Revolution War.
I have data that - "He was in Captain Herteis Co.; Col. Bellinger's regiment New York Militia in the revolution. His name appears on a pay roll dated at Fort Dayton Jan. 24, 1781 for service in July, Aug. and Sept. 1779. His name also appears on the rolls of Capt Frederick Franks. Co. same regiment. For service in 1780 That he received a pension late in life and his wife Barbara after his death.
I would also like to have a statement of the military record of John Walderstine or wittershin (Americanized to Witherstine) a Revolutionary soldier - in the Third regiment - Continental Line. Was at Valley Forge with Washington. Lived in Herkimer, N.Y.
Yours, Sincerely
L. F. Hooker, 408 - East 17th Ave, Denver, Colo.

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To Chf. ----- Die Action ----- FEB 26 1906 COMMISSIONER.
Washington, D.C., Feb. 24, 1906.
Hon. George W. Faris, of Terre Haute, Indiana, desires information regarding a Revolutionary soldier being on the rolls by the name of John Wheatstine or Weisenstein or Weitzenstein or Weizenstein.
The family tradition is that the original JOHN came to America as a Hessian soldier and was captured at Trenton: that he afterwards served under Washington, and may have been a Captain.
After the Revolutionary War he is stated to have settled in Pennsylvania, and died there as a farmer, leaving a family and estate.
Mr Faris will call at the Bureau for above information on his return from N.Y. Marsh

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Weekly Telegram-Record Vol. XXVII Herkimer, N. Y. Weekly
The Mohawk Herald Vol. LVII Mohawk, N. Y. Weekly
Herkimer Telegram Publishing Co.
FINE JOB PRINTING
LINOTYPE COMPOSITION
HERKIMER, N. Y., Feb 17 1923
Commissions of Pensions Washington. D. C. Dear Sir
As you will see by the enclosed record I have been referred to you for further information. To complete the biography of Edward Small, late of Herkimer, I would like to know who the father, mother, grandfather and grandmother of John Withershire referred to in the enclosed record.
Any information you may supply will be gratefully received.
Respectfully, Willie P. Small

2 Rock St.
Alexandria Bay, N.Y.
February 26, 1938
Veterans Administration Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen: —
If your Revolutionary Pension Records contain such records I wish an abstract of the Papers filed for John Witherstone of the Town of Herkimer, N.Y. He drew a Pension for services as did his wife Margaret (Caster) Witherstone. She lived in 1840 in Herkimer with her son David.
I wish to get War Record family data and any other information recorded.
Sincerely,
Roger F. Williams

Pension Department Record Division Washington, D.C.
Sir:
I would be very much favored if you would inform me as to the record in your department, of Hendrick Wetherstine and John Wetherstine (sometimes spelled Whetterstine, Wetterstien), Hendrick was supposed to be in the Revolutionary War in Bellinger's Regiment and John was in the regular service and also in Gausevoort's regiment, New York militia. Thanking you for any information you can give me, I remain,
Very truly yours, James Cristman,
Herkimer N.H.
June 22, 1908.

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July 10, 1931
L. F. Hooker 408 East 17th Avenue Denver, Colorado.
Rev.& 1812 Wars Section AWF
Dear Sir:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 18341, that John Witderstein(the name also appears Weatherstine, Widderstien, Witderstone, Witherstone and Widterstine) was born July 12, 1762, place not stated.
He enlisted June 8, 1777 and served as a private in Captain Thomas DeWitt's Company, Colonel Peter Gansevoort's New York Regiment and in Captain George Sytez's Company, Colonel Van Schaick's New York Regiment, was in the siege of Fort Stanwix, expedition against the Indians under General Sullivan, skirmish on Staten Island, and battle of Yorktown, was discharged June 8, 1783.
He was allowed pension on his application executed June 7, 1819, at which time he was living in Herkimer, New York.
He died June 19, 1835 in said Herkimer.
The soldier married August 1 or 2, 1786, Margaret, the daughter of Melchert Kessler (sometimes spelled Casler). She was born February 7, 1770.
She was allowed pension on her application executed October 3, 1838, at which time she was living in Herkimer New York.
She died in said Herkimer, June 16, 1848, leaving the

following children- Catharine Fulmer, Margaret Folts, Mary E. Reed, Elizabeth or Betsey Stevens, John, Me- David N. Mul- chert, and Abraham, who signed "Witherstine" in 1849, was then aged forty-two years and living in Herkimer, New York.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of John Witderstein soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau. spelled Name also Weathershine , Widderstien Witderstein
Bureau. Name also spelled Weatherstone, Widdertson Widderstone, Wetherstone Witherstone, Widderstine
Battles engaged in, Siege of Yorktown, 1781
Residence of soldier at enlistment, un-located
Date of application for pension, June 7, 1819. His claim was allowed.
Residence at date of application, Herkimer Co. N.Y. he died June 19, 1835 - 1-1/2
Age at date of application, July 12, 1862  1762  1862  July 12, 1862  1862
Remarks: Sol. Mar. Aug. 2, 1786 Margaret Hester , daughter of Melchert 8 Kasler, sometimes called Gasler; she was allowed pension on an application granted Oct. 3, 1838 while a resident of the now Harkness, Herkimer Co., N.Y., born Feb. 7, 1770. She died at Harkness, N.Y. June 16, 1848, leaving Children; sons  daughters  with sons John; Catherine Talmer; Margaret Fols; David; Mary C. Reed; Elizabeth or Betsey Hester and Abraham a resident of Herkimer Co. N.Y. in 1853 and (Melchert)