Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 17205, John Wilson, N.C.

SERVICE
Nb.
Wilson, John
NUMBER
S. 17205
Born in N.C.
CONTENTS
carded
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7.877 Alabama
John Wilson.
of Bibb Co. in the State of Alabama who was a Private in the Comp y , commanded by Captain Martin of the Reg t . commanded by Col. Hill, in the State militia line for thirteen months. H.R.
$43. 33 / 100
Inscribed on the Roll of Alabama at the rate of 43, Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 15. th day of April, 1833 and sent to Thos. Crawford. Centreville. Bibb Co. Ala.
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833. - 86.66 Semi-ant. allowance ending 14 Sept. 1833 - 21.66
$108.32
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Com d R. Palmer. Clerk. Book E. Vol. 8. Page 53.

No 17590 No 7877 Jno Wilson Bibb Co Alabama
Adn for 1 year 1 month from 1780.
Jan 16.
43.33
Jno Crawford Centerville Bibb Co Alabama
William Bedwell
Colin Alabama

BRIEF in the case of  John Wilson  County of Pike  in the State of Alabama  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 72  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     Augt — In 1780 vol 3 Private Gen. Majr Davy Capt Morton   April 1781 vol 10 Gen Sumpter Col Hill Capt Giles Col Washington & Col Lee  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? Boone Mills just after the engagement at Eutaw Springs  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Mecklenburg Co Virginia & Va.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditional evidence  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? correct 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
John R. Foster Examining Clerk.

The State of Alabama } } } Bible County }
On this the twenty fifth day of August 1882 personally appeared in open court before Thomas Broadfoot Judge of the County Court for Bible County and State officers and now sitting John Wilson a resident of Bible County aged 72 years, who being first duly sworn, deposes and says that he doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed March 3, 1882.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated.
That he entered the service in the month of August 1880 under Major David D. Davis of the Waxhaw settlement his captain was John Solomon Martin and served three months.
That he entered the service in April 1880 and served ten months under Gen. Samuel H. Hill his captain was John Giles.
That when he entered the service both times he resided in Mauldin County in the State of North Carolina.
That when he was in the service he served in several counties in North Carolina and South Carolina.
That he was in the Battle of Gettysburg at the hanging Rock and saw the enemy retreat to the battle ground at Seven Pines. He was present at the battle and was wounded there by a Capt. Stephen H. Martin and was at the Battle of Catawba Springs.
That he was a volunteer at both times.

That he was with Gen. Greene and his troops and knew him and Col. Washington and Gen. Sumter and Col. Lee and Col. Washington was taken prisoner at the Battle of Camden Springs in the  the light infantry part of the British part of the army and passed through and came round to our troops again. That he has no documentary evidence and knows of no person whose testimony he can produce to testify to his services.
I John Wilson hereby acknowledge my claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state or territory.
John Wilson
Sworn to and subscribed in open court the day and date above.
William Caddee Clerk
Wherefore the undersigned in the County of North  Bibb  and  North and state of Alabama and Matthew Cox reading in the same state and county of Bibb hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Wilson who has subscribed to the above declaration and who is known to be the person of age that has reported and believed in his neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution that we have never heard the facts disputed and that we concur in that opinion.
John M. Gleason and Matthew Cox
Sworn to in open court and subscribed the day and date above. William Caddee Clerk

After which the following questions were propounded to the said John Wilson by the Court, to wit: The questions contained in the printed form from the secretary of war in order to the the standard the following are the answers of John Wilson on his oath to said questions in order. 1st Answer. I was born in Manchester County in the state of North Carolina I was 22 years of age at the time of my enlistment
1841 I was a recruit of my age and a smaller build which I would have in part been I was living in MacLenburg County in the state of North Carolina and after the war I moved from there to the state of Georgia and then moved back to MacLenburg County North Carolina again I then move to the county where I now live in the state of Oklahoma 1841 I volunteered both times as above stated.
" 5. " Gen. Green " Gen. Saurister " Col. Washington and Col. Lee. I recollect the continental and militia troops that I was with as above stated.
" 6 " I received a discharge for ten months service from Gen. Sumpter which I have either lost or mislaid so I cannot find it. I have made diligent search for it amongst my papers & cannot find it. I never received a discharge for the three months service stated above.
"It is your Honor Williams biddell the clerk of this court" Cook B. Baker, Joseph Smithman

Subscribed in open court this day and date above William Caddell Clerk We whose names are hereunto subscribed declare that we are well acquainted with John Wilson who has subscribed the above declaration. That from his general character which he bears in his neighbor- hood, his affidavit is entitled to full credit and that we believe he was a soldier of the revolution and that he has borne that character in his neighborhood and we have never heard the fact disputed
M c Callum Joseph Smith the elder
William Caddell
Thomas Crawford Judge of the County Court for said County do hereby certify my opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named John Wilson was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states and farther certify that it appears to me that John H. Glarock who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the county of Bebb aforesaid and Matthew Box who signed the same is a creditable person and that their statement is entitled to credit.
Thos. Crawford Judge Bebb County Court.
I William Caddell Clerk of the County Court for said County and said State hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Wilson for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and private seal there being no seal for this office. This the 25 day of August 1832
William Caddell Clerk

17205 INVALID.
File No. 17205
John Wilson Sci Rev War
Act: June 7 th 32
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 413
[Arrangement of 1870.]

STATE OF ALABAMA.
JOHN GAYLE, GOVERNOR OF SAID STATE,
TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME.
Know Ye, That Thomas Crawford whose signature appears to the forgoing and annexed declaration was at the time of signing the same Judge of the County Court of Bibb County duly commissioned & authorised & that said Court is a court of record; and also that William Caddell whose signature also appears was at the time of signing the same Clerk of the County Court of Bibb County duly commissioned & authorised
THEREFORE, all due faith, credit, and authority are, and ought to be had and given. to all their official acts as such In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the State to be affixed. Done at the Capitol in Tuscaloosa, this the 30 day of August in the year of our Lord One thousand Eight hundred and thirty-two and of the Independence of the United States of America the Fifty-Seventh
BY THE GOVERNOR.
John Gayle
James I. Thompson
SECRETARY OF STATE.
John Gayle 1832

Ino Wilson - BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of _____ which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? citizens only XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? yes XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes  yes XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? answered
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

4 Declarations taken out
file. 75-87 93
The Hon. Lewis. bafs, sec of War Washington City
Per
The Hon. Thomas Crawford

Answers to the within all to be directed to Centerville Bible Ctg. Alabama Thos Crawford