Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 41,275, Bates Turner, Continental (Conn.)

SERVICE
NUMBER
Continental (Conn.)
Turner, Bates
S. 41,275
CONTENTS

1891 May 11 J. B. Barker History Prior Sept 5 Gen. L. A. Grant - date of declaration of Court Brier & date of certificate of Court Brier
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sent to the Hon. J. B. Meek 16 July 1891.
Recorded Aug 1847 by a letter (2,723)
Vermont Roll.
Bates Turner  S. B. Webb Regt.  Private  Connecticut Line
In the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War.
Described on the Roll of Vermont at the rate of Eight Dollars per month, to commence on the 16 th of April 1818 -
Certificate of Pension issued the 21 st of Sept r 1818 - and sent to William Brayton Esq. Judge St Albans, Franklin Co Vt -
Decreas to 4th of Sept r 1818 - 4 th - 19/30 - 37-6 Semi-ann. all'ce ending 4 th March 1819. 48 -
$85-6
{ Revolutionary claim, } { Act 18th March, 1818. }
3 years. 1777-  Continue
A. Allen

Revolutionary Claim under Act of Congress May 1 st 1820
State of Vermont } Supreme Court July 12 th Term 1820 Franklin County } on this 12 th day of July 1820 personally appeared in open Court being the Supreme Court for the said State County of Franklin and a Court of Record for said County having power of fine and imprisonment Bates Governor of St Albans in said County of Frankl
aged fifty nine years resident in St Albans in said County who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath declare that he served in the Revolutionary war as follows I enlisted in February 1777 for the term of three years under Capt James Watson and was transferred into into Capt Whittings company of Infantry in Col Samuel B Webbs Regiment in the Continental line I served the said three years in said company and Regiment and was then discharged as will appear by my original declaration dated 16 th April 1818 during said time I was in the Battle on Rhode Island and some engagements on the North River I have a pension certificate dated Sept 21 st 1818 No. 2723 I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 28 th day of March 1818 and that I have not since that time by gift sale or in any other manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with intent thereby or to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the Land and Naval Service of the United States in the Revolutionary war passed on the 18 th day of March 1818 and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or securities contracts or debts due to me nor have I any income other than what is contained in the Schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed my Wife has a life estate of a small House and Barn which are out of repair and not tenantable and twelve acres of Land on an Island in Lake Champlain about six acres of which is under improvement the other half lies considerable distance from the buildings and is unimproved I have no other Real Estate. I am Luther Pease, the income of my office for the year past as well as I am able to judge has been about fifty dollars and not more for several years I have been

in the practice of the law but by reason of old age and infirmity and loss of sight expect soon to close it my personal estate consists of the following articles to wit
  one Horse saddle and bridle 40.00   Waggon Sleigh and Harness 100.00   Cow and poor old French Watch 30.00   Ax Shove and Hoe 4.25 
Household furniture I have none but kitchen and little of that but by using some which belongs to my wife's daughter am able to keep House comfortably I have some debts due me many of them not collectable mostly against people dead or run away or in accounts. I have been sick a long time my wife also was sick for about sixty days last fall and has not fully recovered. I am much in debt for sickness and otherwise
C. P. Van Klief Esquire has advanced me more than $200.00 in cash from humanity for which I have made him no satisfaction. should my life be spared I hope I shall be able to collect enough to pay my just debts. I am sinking under the weight of time and infirmity surrounded by ready creditors, a feeble sickly wife reclining on my arm poverty staring me in the face and clad with my silver locks and with dim eyes looking to that country for which I spent the morning of my days it then being a distressed country but now a wealthy prosperous and Happy Nation and in the full enjoyment of those privileges for which I fought and which my young friends and their children are to enjoy when I am in my grave my family consists of one wife aged 44 years and her three daughters Caroline S. Webb aged 19 years Betsey 15 Abigail 12. I have no children of my own nor ever had
Sworn to and subscribed on the 3rd 12th day of July 1820 before me
the bond M ch Horace Jones Clerk

Bates Turner
William Brayton, Esq. Judge, St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont.
Bates Turner, Connecticut line, Revolutionary Claim.
found on the rolls of Col. Samuel B: Webb's reg t .
The judge is desired to certify, under the seal of the court, that he is satisfied, that the applicant is in in- -digent circumstances, and needs the support of his Country.

State of Vermont } I Elijah Phelps of South Hero Franklin County } in the county of Grand Isle and State of Vermont aged sixty nine years do testify and that I lived in Norfolk in the State of Connecticut several years before and several years after the Am- =can revolution, and during the revolutionary war that I was well acquainted with Bates Turner now of St Albans in the county of Frank- =lin and State of Vermont before said revolution and have been ever since. I lived near by the parents of said Bates when I lived in Norfolk and was knowing to his ind- =ting under Capt James Watson into the continental army in the year A D Seventeen hundred and seventy six for the term of three years I was not in the army at him nor did I ever see him discharged but I was knowing to his being absent from his parents for the term of three years and then returned I always understood that he served the whole term for which he enlisted and was then honorably dis- =charged I further testify that said Bates susta- =ins a good moral character
Elijah Phelps
St Albans May 8 1818 I do hereby certify that the foregoing Elijah Phelps be not being alive. Deeds in account of the property before I certify that said Elijah Phelps is a credible witness
William Bragton Judge Superior Court

State of Vermont } On the second day of May 1818, before me the Subscriber Franklin County } one of the Judges of the Supreme Court of the State of Vermont
Personally appeared John Andrews of Alburgh in the County of Grand Isle in said State, who being by me first duly sworn according to law, doth depose and say, that in the month of February 1777 he enlisted in Col: Samuel B. Webb's regiment in the continental establishment in the Connecticut line of troops, that he was knowing that Bates Turner then of Norfolk in the State of Connecticut, but now of St Albans in the County of Franklin in the State of Vermont to have enlisted in said Month of February into said Webb's regiment, and was knowing to his belonging to Capt: Whiting's company of light Infantry belonging to said Regiment, and that he was knowing to said Turner's continuing in said Regiment untill the Month of February 1780, when he the deponent was regularly discharged, and that said Turner then remained in service, and that he understood said Turner was honorably discharged at Morristown in New Jersey soon after he was, that he has for a number of years last past been acquainted with the said Turner now residing at St Albans aforesaid and know him to be the same person who enlisted and served as aforesaid.
John Andrews
I William Brayton one of the Judges of the Supreme Court of the State of Vermont, do certify that the above named John Andrews being duly sworn according to law made oath to the truth of the above statement, and in my opinion is a credible witness. In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of said Court this second day of May 1818.
John Andrews William Brayton Judge Supreme Court

State of Vermont } On this sixteenth day of April 1818 before me the Subscriber Franklin County ss } one of the Judges of the Supreme Court for said State
Personally appears Bates Turner aged fifty sixty years resident at St Albans in said County of Franklin who being by me first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress entitled "An Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land & naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war." That he the said Bates Turner enlisted in Norfolk in the State of Connecticut in the month of February 1777 for the term of three years in the Company commanded by Captain James Watson in the Regiment commanded by Col. Samuel H. Webb of the Connecticut line of troops in the service of the United States. He was soon transferred to Captain Whilings Company of light Infantry in said Regiment and continued to serve in the said Corps in the service of the United States until in the month of February 1780 when he was discharged from service at Morristown in the State of New Jersey. That he was at the battles of Rhode Island and several skirmishes on the north river, and that he is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support, and that he has no other evidence now in his power of his said service. That his discharge has been accidentally lost.
Subscribed Sworn and declared to before me this day & year aforesaid.
And the said Bates Turner. William Brayton Judge Sup Court herein to subscribe his name.
Bates Turner
I William Brayton Judge of the Supreme Court as aforesaid, do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said Bates Turner did serve in the revolutionary War as stated in the preceding declaration against the common enemy, and I now transmit the proceedings and testimony taken and had before me to the Secretary for the Department of War pursuant to the directions of the aforementioned act of Congress. Given under my hand and seal this 22 nd day of May 1818. and of our said Court.
I further certify that the said Bates Turner is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support.
William Brayton Ass't Judge Supreme Court of Vermont

State of Vermont Franklin County ss } St Albans August 13. 1818.
I Certify that I have been personally acquainted with the said Bates Turner during ten years last past, and have no doubt, that he is now, and at the time of the date of his declaration was, destitute of property unable by his own labor or other means within himself to support himself without the assistance of his country. That he is in reduced and indigent circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support. Given under my hand and Seal of said County at St Albans this 13 th day of August A.D. 1818.
William Bragton Judge Supreme Court Vt.
State of Vermont Franklin County ss
I Horace Jones Clerk of the Supreme Court within & for the County aforesaid. do hereby certify that the Hon. William Bragton Esq. signor of the aforesaid certificate is one of the Judges of the Supreme Court of the State of Vermont, duly appointed by the Legislature of said State & legally qualified to act as such & that the above signature is in his own proper hand witnessed In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my name & affixed the Public Seal of said Court. this 18 th day of August A.D. 1818. Horace Jones Clerk

August 19, 1938
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BA-J/MCS
Bates Turner, S.41275
Moses Turner, S.41270
Mr. Raymond E. Van Syckle 1729 Ford Building Detroit Michigan
Dear Sir:
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, S.41275, based on the military service of Bates Turner.
Bates Turner lived with his parents in Norfolk, Connecticut, at the time of the Revolutionary War; the date and place of his birth and the names of his parents were not given.
He enlisted in February, 1777, served as private in Captain James Watson's and Whiting's companies in Colonel Samuel B. Webb's regiment, was in engagements on the North River and in the battle of Rhode Island and continued to serve until February, 1780.
He was allowed pension on his application executed April 16, 1818, at which time he resided in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont, and he was then fifty-seven years of age.
In 1820, the soldier stated that his family consisted of his wife who was forty-four years of age, name not given, and her three daughters, Caroline S. Webb, aged nineteen years, Betsey, aged fifteen years, and Abigail, aged twelve years. He stated that he never had any children of his own. There are no further data relative to family.
In order to obtain the information relative to the pension of Bates Turner, the name and address of the person to whom it was paid and possibly the date of soldier's death, it is suggested that you address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D.C., giving the following data: Bates Turner, Certificate 2723, issued September 21, 1818, rate $8 per month, commenced April 16, 1818, Act of March 18, 1818, Vermont Agency.
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The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, S. 41270, based on the military service of Moses Turner.
The date and place of his birth and the names of his parents were not given.
Moses Turner enlisted in 1776, place not given, and served until September, 1776, in Captain Watson's company in Colonel Burrall's Connecticut regiment. He enlisted in the spring of 1777 and served three years as corporal in Captain Watson's company in Colonel Swift's Connecticut regiment and was in the battles of Guilford and Monmouth.
He was allowed pension on his application executed March 31, 1818, at which time he was living in Rutland, Rutland County, Vermont, and he was then aged fifty-nine years. In 1813 he was living in Poultney, Vermont.
In 1820 Moses Turner was living in Rutland, Vermont, and then referred to his wife, Hannah, aged forty-five years, and to his children: Hannah Hale, aged fifteen years, Juliet, aged thirteen, Moses, aged nine, and Sophia, aged twenty-six, who had a child (name not given) aged two years; the soldier also referred to a Thomas Turner of Troy, relationship not given.
Moses Turner died July 6, 1832.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Bates Turner Declaration _____ copy of Record—
R. L.
Con
Franklin
Hon. E. Meech, H. R.
Thos. Lander agt M. Johnson et

State of Vermont } Franklin County ss }
I Horace James clerk of the supreme
court do hereby certify that the following foregoing oath and the schedule thereto annexed are truly copied from the record of said court and I do further certify that it is the opinion of the said court that the to- tal amount in value of the property ex- hibited in the aforesaid schedule is one hundred seventy four dollars twenty five cents - free from debt nothing and cents. In testimony whereof
I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of this court on this 13 th day of July AD 1820 Horace James Clerk

January 9, 1934.
Mr. Gilbert H. Doane Office of the Librarian The University of Nebraska. Lincoln, Nebraska.
BA-J/ILL William Isham S. 39765 Bates Turner S. 41275
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of William Isham and Bates Turner, both pensioners of Vermont.
The records of these soldiers are furnished herein as shown in the papers on file in their claims for pension, based upon service in that war.
WILLIAM ISHAM-S. 38765.
William Isham enlisted in Colchester, Connecticut, on May 5, 1777, served as private in Captains Allen's and Elias Stillwell's companies. Colonel Samuel Wylllys' Connecticut regiment, was transferred and served in Captain Elias Stillwell's company. Colonels Durkee's and Zebulon Butler's 1 st Connecticut regiment, was in the battles of Long Island and White Plains, in many skirmishes, and was discharged June 7, 1783, at West Point. He was honored with the badge of merit for six years' faithful service.
He was allowed pension on his application executed March 25, 1818, at which time he resided in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont. He gave his age then as fifty-seven years, but in July, 1820, stated that he was aged sixty-two years; the date and place of his birth and names of his parents are not shown.
It is shown that during the period 1817-1820, the soldier's wife was ill with dropsy, from which she died; her name, and the date of her death are not shown, but on July 12, 1820, the soldier stated that he then had no family but himself.

In 1847, William Isham, the soldier, was living with his wife, who was eighty-five years of age, in St. Albans, Vermont; her name is not shown and there is no reference to their marriage.
In 1824, the soldier's son, Asahel, was thirty-four years of age, and resided with his family on a farm close to that of his father in St. Albans, Vermont; said son had resided some time prior to that date, four or five hundred miles west of his father's home. Other sons of the soldier were referred to in 1828, but their names were not stated. In 1847, the soldier referred to one, Nelson Isham, but did not state any relationship between them.
In 1824, Jehiel Isham, the soldier's brother, was a resident of St. George, Chittenden County, Vermont, aged sixty-one years.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid, and possibly the date of death of William Isham, you should apply to The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following:
William Isham Certificate 11225 Issued June 1, 1819 Rate of $8 per month Commenced March 25, 1818. Act of March 1818. Vermont Agency.
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Office file BATES TURNER-S. 41275.
Bates Turner lived with his parents in Norfolk, Connecticut, at the time of the Revolutionary War; their names, and the date and place of his birth are not shown.
He enlisted in February, 1777, served as private in Captains James Watson's and Whiting's companies, Colonel Samuel B. Webb's regiment, was in engagements on the North River and in the battle of Rhode Island, and continued to serve until February, 1780.
He was allowed pension on his application executed April 16, 1818, at which time he resided in St. Albans, Franklin County, Vermont; he was then fifty-seven years of age.
In 1820, the soldier stated that his family consisted of his wife, aged forty-four years, her name not shown, and her three daughters, Caroline S. Webb, nineteen years, Betsey, fifteen years, and Abigail, twelve years; he stated further that he had no children of his own, nor ever had any.
Should you desire information from the Comptroller General regarding last payment of pension, you should cite the following:
Bates Turner Certificate 2723 Issued September 21, 1818 Rate of $8 per month Commenced April 16, 1818 Act of March 18, 1818. Vermont Agency.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Assistant to Administrator.

Bates Turner
applied April 1818 aged 57 years, from St Albans, Franklin Co Vt
Caroline S Webb aged 19 Bethany/Abigail 12 He never had children of his own
Justice of the Peace Private Can May 1820 has wife aged 44 years & her 3 daugh X
Enlisted at Norfolk, Litchfield Co Conn Feby 1777 for 3 years under Capt James
Watson of Colo 5th Webb - transferred to Capt Whiting 8th Infy in Jan 1780 &
discharged Feby 1780 at Morristown NJ In Gable Rd & several sketches on
North River
Const man - served 6 mos from July 1. to Dec 1780 under Colo Swift Enrolled at Westport
followed back up Hudson River 1777 under Gen Clinton

August 19, 1938
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BA-J/MCS → Bates Turner, S.41275 Moses Turner, S.41270
Mr. Raymond E. Van Syckle 1729 Ford Building Detroit Michigan
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your request for the records of Revolutionary War soldiers, Bates, Moses and William Turner.
Because of the large number of requests for records of Revolutionary War soldiers and the lack of clerical force available for furnishing such information, it has been impossible to comply in full with requests similar to yours. The records of Bates and Moses Turner are furnished herewith.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

1934-Jan. 9. Hist. to Gilbert H. Doane - See also - Rev. C. N. Johnson. Ill. 1938 Aug 19. Hist. to Mrs. Raymond E. van Dyke. N.C.
41 275
Rev. INVALID.
File No. 41 275 Bates Turner Pri New York
Act: 15 th March 18 th
Index: - Vol. 8, Page 377
[Arrangement of 1870.]

War Department, (Office of the Assistant Secretary), Washington, D.C.
P. N. DIV. SEP 5 1891 CHIEF'S DESK.
September 2, 1891.
Dear Sir:
On May 13th last, I received a communication from you, furnishing some information, which I had requested, about Bat s Turner, who made an application for pension in April 1818. If your records show what day in April 1818 this application was made, I should be glad to be informed.
Truly yours,
Gen'l Green B. Raum,
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

MICHIGAN SOCIETY SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
PRESIDENT WILLIAM C. KRICHBaum DETROIT
VICE-PRESIDENTS MARCUS M. FARLEY BATTLE CREEK
DR. F. MARION BARKER DETROIT
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TREASURER CHARLES A. KANTER DETROIT
HISTORIAN JOHN S. MICHENER ADRIAN
CHAPLAIN REV. JOSEPH A. VANCE, D.D. DETROIT
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OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY 1728 FORD BUILDING DETROIT, MICHIGAN
BOARD OF GOVERNORS
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AND PAST PRESIDENTS
WILBERT H. BARRETT, ADRIAN FRANCIS C. CAMPBELL, DETROIT PROF. WALTER B. FORD, ANN ARBOR WALLACE C. HALL, DETROIT DR. FRANK WARD HOLT, DETROIT DR. STEPHEN H. KNIGHT, DETROIT MILTON E. OSBORN, LANSING CYRUS W. RICE, GRAND RAPIDS REV. JOSEPH A. VANCE, DETROIT
July 21 1938
Veterans Administration, Bureau of Pensions, Washington D.C.
Gentlemen:-
Please advise family data and revolutionary services contained in applications for pensions:---
William Turner , Norfolk, Conn. Pensioner 1818, resided New York. "Conn Men in the Revolution," page 216
Yours truly
Raymond E. Van Sycke Secretary.
Recd 2 P.S. Also desired ditto in record of:--- ✓ Bates Turner , Norfolk, Conn. ✓ Moses Turner , Norfolk Conn. Pensioner 1818 residence Vermont "Conn Men in Revolution page 640
Possibly served under Capt Watson, 7th Conn Regiment The Line 1777-1780