Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 42583, Lawrence Van Clief, New York.

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Van Clief, Laurence. Van Cleef or
S. 42 583
CONTENTS

16.745 New York
Lawrence Van Clief
of Junius in the state of New York who was a private in the regiment commanded by Colonel Gansvoort of the New York line, for the term of 5 years
scribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence on the 2 8 th of November 1819 April 1818.
Certificate of Pension issued the 21 st of April and sent to Double
J. Richmond A.R.
Arrears to 4th of March 1820 $ 32.73 Semi-ann. all'ce ending 4 Sept. 48. Arr 3m: \frac{29}{30} \frac{4}{31} $ 80.73
{ Revolutionary claim, { Act 18th March, 1818. }
Continued
G. Brinskeeff for the Rec'd 1804. June Dec 17 1834
A certificate of pension was issued to the above named Lawrence Van Clief, of the state of New York, who was a private in the regiment commanded by Colonel Gansvoort of the New York line, for the term of five years, on the 21st day of April, 1818, at the rate of eight dollars per month, to commence on the 8th day of April, 1818.

Lawrence Van Klief's Affidavit
Copy D.C. mm
Served 5 years aged 64 years worth $19.
Con - L.L.G.
J. Richmond
Mr Stevens.

State of New York (on this second day of November Columbia County S.S.) one thousand eight hundred and ninety before me the subscriber first Judge of Columbia County personally appears Lawrence Van Clief aged sixty three years resident in the town of Tunkins in Coles County who being by me duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the fol- lowing declaration in order to to obtain the provision made by the act of Congress entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war" —
That the said Lawrence Van Clief enlist- ed in the city of Albany in the state of New- York into the Continental army in the third Regiment of New York line under Col. James Clinton and in Captain Daniel Denton's com- pany on or about was in Canada at the siege of Quebec under Gen. Montgomery, was in the service in said Regiment about one year and was discharged in Albany aforesaid — afterwards enlisted into the third regiment of the New York line of Continental troops in Capt. Thom- as Dewitt's company and Col. Peter Gansevoort  Van Clief's regiment and served during

the was upwards of five years and was discharged at Poughkeepsie in the state of New York - and that he is in reduced cir- cumstances and under the assistance of his country for support - That he obtain- ed honorable discharges from the service of the United States and that they were accidentally burnt.
his Lawrence X Van Clief
Sworn and subscribed before me 1 st day of Nov. 1819
John M c Lean Judge of the Court of Common Pleas N. York
I John M c Lean Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for Dutchess County hereby certify That it appears to my satisfaction that the afore- said Lawrence Van Clief did serve in the revo- lutionary army as stated in the foregoing de- claration against the Common enemy.
John M c Lean 1 st Judge of the Court of Common Pleas State of New York
I do further certify that the above named Lawrence Van Clief meets the assistance of his country for support of which I am fully satisfied.
John M c Lean 1 st Judge of the Court of Common Pleas State of N. York
State of New York

State of New York Seneca County ss.
Abraham Clark of the town of Auburn in the County of Cayuga being duly sworn says, that he is well acquainted with Lawrence Van Klief and knows him to be the same person who was in the Continental army in the service of the United States in the third regiment under Col. Peter Gansevoort and that he was in the service three years or more and knows of his being honorably dischar- ged
Subscribed and sworn before me 2 d day of Nov. 1819 -
his Abraham Clark mark
John Schuyler Seneca County State of New York

State of New York Seneca County Clerk's Office ss:
I certify that John M c Lean Junior Esquire whose signature appears to the within and annexed papers relating to the within declaration of Lawrence Van Clief, was at the time of taking the Declaration and Affidavits & giving the certificate within contained, first Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in & for Seneca County duly commissioned & sworn, acting under the authority of this State. I also certify that I am well acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe the signatures to the within certificates to be his proper hand writing.
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand & affix the Seal of the said Court of Common Pleas this 2 d day of November 1819
J. H. Halsey Clerk of Seneca County N.Y.

State of New York Seneca County ss
Thomas Sapon of the town of Seneca in said County affidavit being duly sworn deposeth and says that he is well acquainted with Law- rence Van Cleft and knows him to be the same person, who was in the service of the United States in Col. Clinton's regi- ment and Capt. Daniel Denton's Company was with him in said regiment and knows the said Lawrence to have been in the service one year or more.
Sworn and subscribed before me this 2 nd day of Nov. 1819
Thomas X Sapon
John Wilson Judge Seneca County State of New York
... ..

State of New York Seneca County } I John Sayre Judge of the Court of Common Pleas of Seneca County and state of New York hereby certify that on the 7 th or 8 th day of April one thousand Eight hundred and eighteen personally appeared Mr. the within named Lawrence Van Klief and upon his own oath and the oaths of others who knew him in the service of the United States Satisfied me that he was entitled to a pension according to the provision of a late act of Con- gress entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary war" which papers were transmitted to the pension office and were lost as I am informed.
November 27 th 1819 John Sayre
State of New York Seneca County Clerk's Office G.
I certify that John Sayre Esquire whose hand writing I am acquainted with whose signature appears to the above certificate in his own hand writing as I verily believe, was, at the time of the date thereof a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the County of Seneca duly commissioned & sworn acting under the authority of this state
In testimony whereof, I hereunto set my hand & affix the seal of the said Court this 24 th day of January 1820.
J. H. Halsey CLK. etc.
S. Richmond 4 Re. Pardon on New York roll

Northern District of New-York, COUNTY OF SENECA SS.
ON this fourth day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty, personally appeared in open court, (being a court of Common Pleas, holden in and for the county of Seneca, in the district aforesaid, and a Court of Record, proceeding according to the course of common law, with a jurisdiction unlimited in point of amount, keeping a record of its proceedings and having a common seal,) Lawrence Van Cleif aged sixty four a resident in said district, in the town of Junius in the county aforesaid, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his Oath declare that he served in the Revolutionary War, as follows: He enlisted in the fore part of the war (but the precise time of his enlistment he does not recollect) in the third New York regiment on continental establishment & that he continued to serve in said regiment & in the first New York regiment into which he was afterwards transferred until the end of the war when he was discharged at Snake-hill near West-point. The whole term of service was five years & upwards. That his original declaration was dated April 2 nd 1819. This certificate is numbered 16745.
And I do solemnly that I was a resident citizen of the United States, on the eighteenth day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen, and that I have not, since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner whatever, disposed of my property, or any part thereof, with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress, entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary war," passed on the eighteenth day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen, and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property, or securities, contracts, or debts, due to me; nor have I any income, other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed.
S C H E D U L E
Real estate none. Personal estate - One Cow worth about fifteen dollars & three swine worth about four dollars. My occupation is that of a day laborer at farming. I am not able to do more than half a days work in a day on account of age & infirmities & in particular in consequence of a lame knee, which arose in consequence of a lustration of the joint received in the revolutionary war. I have no family dependent on me for support.
Sworn & declared in open court 4 th Oct. 1820 I. H. Halsey Clk.
Lawrence Van Cleif marks
I, JEHIEL H. HALSEY, clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the county of Seneca, do hereby certify that the foregoing Oath and the schedule thereto annexed, are truly copied from the records of the said court, and I do further certify, that it is the opinion of the said court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule is Nineteen dollars and cents. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said court, on this fourth day of October, 1820.
J. H. Halsey Clk. Sc.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Lawrence Van belief or Van Lobef , a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. S. 42583.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Early in War 5 years Pvt Daniel Denton. Thomas De Witt. James Clinton. Peter Gansevoort N.Y.                                     
Battles engaged in, Siege of Quebec.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, enlisted in Albany, N.Y.
Date of application for pension, Nov 2, 1819. His claim was allowed.
Residence at date of application, Junius, Seneca Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, 63 years.
Remarks: Soldier died in Feb 1830. He married in Stillwater Saratoga Co N.Y. wife died Apr 16 name not stated. He had children, (Mrs) Mary Chambers b. Apr 29 1776 only name stated.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.
I omit married the year the war terminated - see birth of child. And it was first written "year war was declared" - and erased.

August 12, 1939.
Mr. Francklyn Hogeboom 90 West Street New York, New York.
BA-J/ILL Lawrence Van Clief S. 42583
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to Lawrence Van Cleef who served from New York in the Revolutionary War.
The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S. 42583, based upon service of Lawrence Van Clief, or Van Cleef in the Revolutionary War.
Lawrence Van Clief (his name shown Van Cleef also) enlisted in Albany, New York, sometime in 1775 and served one year as private in Captain Daniel Denton's company, Colonel James Clinton's 3" New York regiment, during which he was in the expedition to Quebec and in the Siege there with the troops under General Montgomery. He reenlisted, served as private in Captain Thomas Dewitt's company, Colonel Peter Gansevoort's 3" New York regiment, served also in the 1" New York regiment and was discharged at Sanke Hill, New York. His entire service amounted to at least five years. Snake?
It was stated that while in service, he passed through the place which was later designated Seneca Falls, and marked that place for his future residence, and that soon after the termination of the war, he moved there.
Lawrence Van Clief was allowed pension on his application executed November 2, 1819, at which time he resided in Junius, Seneca County, New York. He gave his age then as sixty-three years, but did not state the date and place of his birth nor the names of his parents. He died in February 1830.
The soldier married in Stillwater, Saratoga County, New York;

the name of his wife and her age were not given. She died in April 1816.
Lawrence Van Clief had children, some of whom were living in 1854. The only name designated was that of Mary, the eldest, who was born April 29, 1776. In 1854, she was Mrs. Mary Chambers, the name of her husband not shown. There are no further family data.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

Hon John J. Kindred (N.Y.) Room 227
HOB
phones that he wrote Commissioner Scott this morning relative to John L Van Kleeck and Lawrence Van Kleeck.
Information desired for a magazine article. (Revolutionary Magazine)
Mr Kindred is very eager to have a prompt reply.
April 15 - 2.40
11 P.M.

Miss Ford,
Relative to that phone call I'm sending you the memo. Mr Folger (the letter) will try to locate it promptly and send it up.
R P Wade

✓ C. Brinckerhoff New York. N. Y. 24. Avenue November 14. 1854
Enquiring whether Mary Chambers is entitled to a pension, as the eldest child, of Lawrence van Clief, a soldier of the Revolution.
Respectfully referred to the
Dept of the Interior,
Washington
Cole
✓ Respectfully referred to The Commr of Pensions Dept Int Dec 2/54 G. W. Whiting Chf Clk
Interior!

New York Nov 14 th 1854
Honble Jefferson Davis Secretary of War
Dear Sir
My object in writing is to ascertain if Mrs Mary Chambers is entitled to draw a pension - she being the eldest now child now living - her Father Lawrence Van Cleaf was a soldier of the Revolution - He was connected with Sullivans expedition - he was in the services 7 years & 7 days - I have understood that for some years he did draw a pension; it was always paid to him when he call'd for it -
In passing through Seneca Falls, while a soldier, he marked the place as the one destined to be his future residence - Accordingly, soon after the termination of the war, he removed to the place where the Village of Seneca falls now stands.
Over

Be so kind as to give me all necessary information respecting the matter
I am Sir your Obedt Servt
L. Brunschhoff 434 - 4 th Avenue.

November 13, 1939
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Mr. Frank C. Van Cleef C/o Van Cleef & Hageman 14 Wall Street New York City
LAWRENCE VAN CLEEF S. 42583 BA-J/MHF:MLB
Dear Sir:
You are furnished herewith, as requested, photostatic copies of thirteen pages of the originals thereof, in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S. 42583, based upon service of Lawrence Van Clief in the Revolutionary War.
You request to know whether or not other soldiers with your surname applied for Revolutionary War pensions, also the source of information in regard to one Jan Van Cleef who settled on Long Island about 1657.
The surname Van Cleef, variously spelled, is borne several times on the Revolutionary War pension records, and when you are in this city, as you state you expect to be soon, you may examine those records and collect data therefrom, in accordance with office regulations. They are located at present in Room 1851, Wing # 8, Navy Building, 19th Street and Constitution Avenue, N. W., this city.
It is suggested that The Adjutant General of the State of New Jersey, Trenton, New Jersey, might be able to aid you in your search for Colonial records. This office has no record of service rendered in the Colonies prior to the Revolutionary War.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

NO. 490
BA-J/MLB
November 1, 1939
REV. & 1812 WARS SECTION      xxxxxxxxxx
War & Navy, Branch 970
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Rev. War claim for pension of Lawrence Van Clief,
File No. S. 42583
Actual      one of each page
$3.25
13 pages
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Kindly leave margin of 1½ inches at top of each page and return papers in folder with corresponding name and number. The word "omit" written on those pages which are not to be copied.
Chief, Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

October 14, 1939
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Mr. Frank C. Van Cleef C/o Van Cleef & Hageman 14 Wall Street New York City
LAWRENCE VAN CLIEF S. 42583 BA-J/MHHF:MLB
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request photostatic copies of the papers in the claim for pension, S. 42583, based upon service of Lawrence Van Clief in the Revolutionary War, in order to obtain further information in regard to him than that which was incorporated in the report furnished Mr. Francklyn Hogeboom, August 12, 1939.
Photostatic copies of the papers cited above will be furnished you for twenty-five cents a page. The number of pages to be copied is thirteen.
Remittance should be made by money order drawn to the order of the Treasurer of the United States and mailed to the Veterans Administration, Arlington Building, this city.
It may be stated that when the report in regard to this soldier was furnished Mr. Hogeboom, a very careful examination was made of all papers in this case and such data as found therein in regard to service, residences, family, etc., were incorporated in that report. The same report will be furnished you without cost. It is always gratifying when such official reports supply the need, without the photostatic copies, because of less handling of the priceless old documents, which of course are very frail.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Rev. and 1813 War section.
April 16, 1926
Honorable John J. Kindred Room 327 House Office Building.
My dear Mr. Kindred:
In response to your telephone message of the fifteenth instant, I have the honor to advise you that this Bureau is unable to furnish the history of a soldier of the Revolution, unless a claim for pension or bounty land has been made on account of his services, and a careful search of the records fails to show such a claim on file on account of the services of any John L. or John Van Kleek, all spellings of that name searched.
You are herewith furnished the history of the only soldier named Lawrence Van Clief, (under any spelling of that name) found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau.
From the papers in the pension claim, S. 43583, it appears that Lawrence Van Clief enlisted in Albany,

New York, early in the War, and served five years as private in Captain Daniel Denton's Company, Colonel James Clinton's New York Regiment, and in Captain Thomas DeWitt's Company, Colonel Peter Gansevoort's New York Regiment, and was at the Siege of Quebec, dates of service not stated.
He was allowed pension on his application executed November 2, 1819, while a resident of Junius, Seneca County, New York, aged sixty-three years. He died in February 1830.
Soldier married in Stillwater, Saratoga County, New York, she died in April, 1816, her name is not given.
He had children, the only name stated being Mrs. Mary Chambers, who was born April 29, 1776. She was the eldest child.
There is no further data on file as to family.
Very truly yours,
WINFIELD SCOTT Commissioner.

Rev 1812 VAN CLEEF AND HAGEMAN
INVESTMENT COUNSEL
14 WALL STREET
NEW YORK CITY
FRANK C. VAN CLEEF HOWARD C. HAGEMAN J. WILLARD JORDAN JABEZ H. WOOD
TELEPHONE CORTLANDT 7-1762 CABLE ADDRESS: VANCLEJOR
October 17, 1939
Mr. A. D. Hiller Veterans Administration Washington, D. C.
Re: Lawrence Van Clief--S.42583 BA-J/MNHF:MLB
6160
Dear Mr. Hiller:
I think my earlier letter put the emphasis in the wrong place, but as the fifth generation after Lawrence, I would like to have a photostatic copy of the papers for myself and my sons, provided you feel it can be done without damage to the original records. Under no circumstances would I want to see them suffer. I am enclosing a certified check for $3.25. If the photostatic copies come through in such shape that I could have them reproduced, that would be most satisfactory.
You must have many requests for information of this sort. Are there any other pension records of the Van Cleefs? I am planning to spend the Christmas Holidays in Washington so that, among other things, I can follow this through. There were a good many Van Cleefs who served not only in the Revolutionary War but also the French and Indian wars from New Jersey. Can you give me suggestions regarding possible sources of information that might connect our Lawrence with Jan Van Cleef who settled on the Western end of Long Island about 1657?
Yours very truly,
Frank Van Cleef
A:H

VAN CLEEF AND HAGEMAN
INVESTMENT COUNSEL
14 WALL STREET
NEW YORK CITY
FRANK C. VAN CLEEF HOWARD C. HAGEMAN J. WILLARD JORDAN JABEZ H. WOOD
TELEPHONE CORTLANDT 7-1762 CABLE ADDRESS: VANCLEJOR
September 29, 1939
Mr. A. D. Hiller Veterans Administration Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Hiller:
Mr. Francklyn Hogeboom has called my attention to your letter of August 12th regarding Lawrence Van Cleef, your reference BA-J/ILL S. 42583.
I am very anxious to pursue the records further regarding the birthplace and parents of Lawrence Van Cleef. Would it be in order to secure a photostatic copy of the pension records of Lawrence Van Cleef so far as they develop the information contained in your letter and any supplementary details? I should be glad to send check to cover the charge or whatever the regulations require.
Have you any suggestions as to how I could secure information regarding the enlistment of Lawrence in Albany in 1775 or any of his subsequent enlistments? Some of our records indicate that Lawrence Van Cleef's parents or grandparents were New Jersey residents.
Any suggestions you can make as to lines of further investigation would be greatly appreciated.
Yours very truly,
A handwritten signature in cursive, reading "F Van Cleef".
A:H 155-4 177-6

90 West Street, New York, N. Y. July 14-1939
Pension Bureau Washington D. C.
Gentlemen:
From the records of your office can you give us any information about a Lawrence Van Cleef who was a Private in the 1st New York Regiment, Continental Line, under Col. Goose Van Schaick, and later a Private in the 3rd New York Regiment, Continental Line under Col. James Clinton?
We are under the impression that he was born in Elizabethport, N. J. in 1754 and that his wife's maiden name was Sarah Angevine, but of this we are not positive.
Any information you can give us as to where and when he was born, where and when he died and where and when he was married and, if possible, the names of his parents will be highly appreciated.
We would also like to know the place where he enlisted.
Thanking you in advance for your kindness, I am,
Yours very truly,
F. Hogeboom Francklyn Hogeboom Chairman, Committee on Genealogy

JOHN J. KINDRED MEMBER OF CONGRESS ASTORIA, QUEENSBOROUGH, N.Y.CITY 2d DISTRICT NEW YORK
MEMBER COMMITTEE ON RIVERS AND HARBORS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES U.S.
WASHINGTON
April 15th, 1926.
Hon. Winfield Scott, Commissioner of Pensions, Washington D.C.
My dear Commissioner:
I am very desirous of receiving the following information:
(Date of birth and death): IN RE: John L. Van Kleeck -Private-4th Reg. (Land Bounty Regiment)* Dutchess County, New York.
IN RE: Lawrence VanKleeck (Son of Johannes Van Kleeck and Alida (Born 1730) Ter Bosch).
(Kindly furnish date of his death)
Lawrence Van Kleeck was Private in Second Company, Third Regiment, New York Line Continental Army, 1779.
As this is a family matter I will greatly appreciate your courtesy in furnishing me with the desired data at the earliest practicable moment, as it is to be embodied in a record awaiting this special information.
Assuring you of my great appreciation, I am
Very respectfully,
John J. Kindred, Member of Congress.
P.S. I will be grateful to receive the fullest possible information bearing on the above.

Official
50 Hamilton Ave., Auburn, N.Y.
Mar. 23-1916
Miss Anna Wilson
Pension Office, Wash. D. C.
My dear Miss Wilson-
I would like a copy of the record of pension granted to Lawrence Van Cleef or a copy of any record you have of the Van Cleef's ? Dau, Benjamin 2 , Lawrence 3 .

Isaac 4 The record may be spelled Van Kleef- Laurence 5 was soldier in the Revolutionary War Col. Goose Van Schaick's 1 st Reg. Continental line; also Col. James Clinton's 3 rd Reg't N. Y. Line Rev. War. Soldier in Gen John Sulli- van's Expedition against Six Nations of Indians in Central New York.
In his military service he recd a grant of land in the town of Cincinnati,

Cortland Co., N.Y.
I am not sure there was a license granted other than this grant of land. I have read with interest the article in the Woman's Magazine - which includes your work. I would like a copy of any record of the Van Cleefs, or Van Kleefs, as I am getting ready to join the H.G.R.

Thanking you in advance, for this courtesy.
Sincerely Yours.
Mrs. Bertha Van Cleft Garling.
50 Hamilton Ave., Auburn, New York S.

42 583
INVALID.
Ray
File No. 42 583
Lawrence Van Klief Pis New York
Act: 18 March 18 th
Index: Vol. 8, Page 524
[Arrangement of 1870.]
Old book of N.Y. bounty lands issued prior to 1870 searches, no bounty land recorded thereon for this soldier. 1916 Apr 4: history to Mrs. William Harding M.B.H. 1926 Apr 16 " Hon. John J. Kindred - saw 1939 Aug 11 - Dist. to Mr. Franklyn Houghton - S.D. 1939 Oct 14 " Mr. F.C. Vary - see inf. cost of photos M.B.H. 1939 Nov 13 Photos mailed to S.D. Ray Rept + Accts. Div. Noted same date - mss B

128 Pension Office Dec 12/1854
Sir
There is nothing due the children of Laurens Van Clief of NY for his services in the War of the Revolution, He received all that was due him under the acts of 1828 & 1820, and he left no widow, in whose right a claim could be set up.
C Brinkerhoff Esq
New York N.Y.

New York Nov 7 th /84
Sir
I rec yours of the 5 th inst I am not at present able to give you the exact dates of marriage & Deaths = but will do the best I can. Laurence Van Cleif (was married) the same year the war terminated peace was declared in Stillwater Saratoga Co - his eldest child is now 78 years old 29 th April 1854 he has been dead 26 years 25 years next Feb y 1855 = his wife has been dead 39 years April 1855 = You will find some record of him = he has for some years drawn a pension = I am not able to say how long = He was Conn- = ected with the Sullivan's Expedition
If it should be necessary I can probably give you the exact dates as you requested = I shall have to send to Scarsdale falls = where I shall be able to obtain all information = probably you have information suffi- =cient to be able to say whether the children are entitled to their Father's pension

please inform me whether the eldest child is entitled to it or the children and how long
Yours Respectfully J. B. McKirchoff 434 - 4 th Ave
Commissioner of Pensions H