Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 10,751, Simeon Turner, New York

SERVICE
New York
Turner, Simeon Anna
NUMBER
R. 10.751
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20/128  NEW YORK  Simeon Turner  Recd in the State of N. York 5 was a private in the Lehigh company Captain White of the Regt. commanded by Col. Hotten in the N. York line for 2 Years —
Inscribed on the Roll of NYork at the rate of 80 Dollars — Cents per annum. commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 3 day of Aug.  1833 and Seventh  S. Mattson  Payro
Arrears to the 4th of Mar '33 $ 160 Semi-ant. allowance ending 6 th  Sept. '33  40  $200
Recorded by C. L. Stiles  Clerk. Book 6 , Vol. 3 , Page 80  { Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }

22894
Simeon Turner Green County N York
for
Amasa Mattson Cairo New York

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
May 31 1833
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Simeon Turner Esreen County N. York.
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Volume 1789 80 1 8 pr. Capt. White Col. Van Cortlandt 70 Newburgh N.Y. Testimonial   6 " Capt. Van Schoick Col. Van Rensselaer  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.
It cannot be readily admitted that the above allegations of service are insusceptible of proof, and claimants are required by the regulations to produce the best evidence in their power.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d), with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
not on the rolls
J. B. Newman

I Richard Sluyter do hereby certify that I am the regular successor to the Rev John G. Gebhard in the ministry of the Reformed Dutch Church in the Town of Claverack, county of Columbia and State of New York; and I do further certify that I find, on the Records of the said Church the Marriage of Simon Turner and Anna Clapper recorded in the hand writing of the said Rev John G. Gebhard, as having been celebrated on the first of September one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven. as follows "September 1 st 1787. Simon Turner and Anna Clapper were married".
I Richard Sluyter above named do depose and say that I hold the office of a minister of the Gospel in the County Town and State aforesaid, and that the above is a true extract from the records of said Church, with the exception above named, as certified by me. Sworn before me this 31 st day of January 1839.
Richard Sluyter
James Rowley Commissioner for the said

Columbia County, } ss. Clerk's Office, }
I, KILLIAN MILLER, Clerk of the county of Columbia, Do hereby certify, That James Rowley before whom the affidavit purports to have been sworn, was on the day of the date of the same, a Commissioner of Pleas Justice of the Peace in and for said county. And further, that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Commissioner Justice , and verily believe the name of the said Court Justice subscribed to the said affidavit, to be his proper hand writing and signature.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my name and affixed the Seal of the said county, this 27 th day of February 1839
K. Miller
The three above words inserted before signing swearing — K. Miller

State of New York } County of Greene 3/:
On this eleventh day of February 1839 personally appeared before the judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the said county of Greene in open court Anna Turner, a resident of the town of Cairo, in said county aged seventy two years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by act of Congress, passed July 7 th 1838 entitled "An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows" That she is the widow of Simeon Turner who was a private in the army of the revolution, and served as such as appears from the documents on file in the War Office of the United States on which were grounded a pension granted to him under the Act of Congress of 7 th June 1832, his pension certificate bearing date Aug 3 1833 recorded in Pension Office in Prof. E. Vol 3, pay 80 and numbered 20,128 and by which he was entitled to a pension of eighty dollars a year; to which documents on file & proceedings on that application at the Pension Office declarant refers, as proof of her claim to a pension under the act first above specified.
She further declares that she was married to the said Simeon Turner, on the first day of (Sept 1 st 1787) September in the year seventeen hundred and eighty seven; that her husband the aforesaid Simeon Turner died on the fourth day of December in the year eighteen hundred and thirty eight. That she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the first of January seventeen and ninety four, viz at
Dec 4 th 1838

the time above stated, Sworn & subscribed in open court on the day & year first above written William T. B. Keermance clerk
Mr Anna X Turner mark
Also at the same time appeared in open court before the judges aforesaid Hiram Hinman a resi- dent of the said town of Leno aged forty years, who was duly sworn to be a credible person & his statements entitled to full credit and being first duly sworn according to law did depose & say that he was well ac- quainted with the above named Simon Turner and Anna his wife That the said Simon Turner died at the said town of Leno on the 4 th day of December last (in the year 1838) leaving the said Anna the above declarant surviving him as his lawful widow, that she has ever since remained, and is now his widow
Sworn & subscribed before the judges aforesaid in open court on the day & year first aforesaid
Hiram Hinman William T. B. Keermance Clerk "
Witness my hand & the seal of the said court this 11 th day of February 1839
W. T. B. Keermance Clerk

10420
Anna Turner
Simeon Dea
N.Y.
Act 7 July 38
Husband died Dec 4 38
Wife " Nov 23 40

State of New York, Greene County } ss.
I William Pierson Clerk of the County of Greene aforesaid and of the courts of the same do certify that at a court of common pleas & general sessions held at Catskill on the fourteenth day of February 1843. Elizabeth Rops appeared in open court and was by me duly sworn & subscribed the foregoing declaration for a pension. And further certify that Anthony M. Van Buren Esq r before whom the foregoing affidavits of Shubal Rops and William Pierson Esq r purport to have been subscribed and sworn was at the date of the said affidavits one of the Judges of the Greene County courts duly appointed and qualified & believe his name subscribed to the jurat of said affidavits to be his genuine signature.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said court and county this day
December 1843
William Pierson Clerk

State of New York County of Greene ss.
On this fourteenth day of February in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty three at a court of Common pleas and general Sessions held at the court house in the village of Catskill in and for the County of Greene personally appeared before the Judges thereof Elizabeth Rops a resident of the town of Cairo of said County aged forty one years, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed the 7 th July 1838 entitled an act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows
That she is the daughter of Anna Turner widow of Simeon Turner who in the revolutionary war was a private Soldier in defence of his country for which he received a pension at the rate of eighty dollars per annum which he continued to receive until the day of his death
She further declares that her mother the said Anna Clapper Turner was legally married to her father the said Simeon Turner the first day of September in the year one thousand seven hundred & eighty seven and in the town of Clarnack in the County of Columbia as appears by the record from the church hereto annexed.
That her mothers maiden name previous to her marriage with her father the said Simeon Turner was Anna Clapper
She further declares that her father the said Simeon Turner died the fourth day of December in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight

in the town of Coire in the County of Greene and left a widow the said Anna Turner the mother of this declarant, who died the twenty third day of November seventy in the year one thousand eight hundred & forty in said town of Coire
That her mother was not married to her father the said Simson Turner prior to his leaving the Service but the marriage took place previous to the first day of January Seventeen hundred and ninety four viz. at the time abovenoted
She further declares that her mother had not intermarried but remained the widow of the said Simson Turner until the day of her death; that she left three children whose names are as follows viz Alexander Turner who resides in the State of Pennsylvania, Margaret Hinman wife of Horace Hinman who resides in Herkimer County the State of New York and this declarant wife of Shubal Ross She further declares that the annexed affidavits of Shubal Ross and William Pierson proving the death of her parents and the names of their children together with the proof of marriage is all she has procured and which she believes are all correct!
For proof of the services of her husband father the said Simson Turner she would respectfully refer to his declaration and proof on file in the War Department under the act of the 7 June 1832. Sworn to and Subscribed in open Elizabeth Ross court on the day & year first above written — Note, the words personally appeared substituted and the words November 7, 1841 written before the execution thereof —

State of New York County of Greene
Shubal Rops of the town of Cairo County and State of said being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is the Son in law of Anna Turner de who was the widow of Simon Turner de late a pensioner of the United States - That said Simon Turner died the fourth day of December in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight in said town of Cairo and left a widow whose maiden name was Anna Colapper - That said Anna Turner died the twenty third day of November in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty having three children whose names are as follows viz. Alexander Turner, who resides in the State of Pennsylvania, Margaret Plummer who resides in Herkimer County of this State, and Elizabeth Rops, the wife of this deponent & whose is the identical person who is the applicant for a pension for & in the name of their mother the said Anna Turner, for the Revolutionary Services of their father the said Simon Turner de & that said children are all severally over the age of twenty one years and further this deponent saith not.
Shubal Rops
Sworn to and Subscribed on the 14 days of February 1843 and certify that I am personally acquainted with said deponent & believe him to be a credible witness
Anthony M Van Mergen one of the Judges of Greene County Court

State of New York, County of Greene & ss.
William Pierson of the town of Catskill County & State aforesaid being duly sworn deposeseth and saith, that he was well acquainted with Simeon Turner late of the town of Cairo who was a revolutionary pensioner.
That deponent lived a near neighbor to him for several years and officiated several times as a Magistrate in acknowledging his power of attorney in order to draw his pension money from the Government.
That late in the fall of the year of one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight he died in said town of Cairo and left a widow whose name was Anna Turner who died about two years after her husband also in the town of Cairo.
Deponent further saith that said Simeon Turner and Anna Turner left three children - whose names are as follows. viz, Alexander Turner, Margaret Hinman, the wife of Horace Hinman and Elizabeth Rops, the wife of Shubal Rops, and that said Elizabeth Rops is a resident of the town of Cairo and who is the identical person who is the annexed applicant for a pension for, in the name of the mother of said children for the revolutionary services of their father the said Simeon Turner due to further this deponent saith not.
Sworn to and subscribed on this 14 day of February 1843 before me - and certify that said deponent is the present belief of said County of Greene & his statement entitled to credit.
Anthony M Van Megen one of the Judges of Greene County Court
Simeon Turner

State of New York Columbia County ss
Richard Sluyter of the town of Claverack County of Columbia and State of New York being duly sworn upon oath and saith that he is the present Clergyman of the Protestant Dutch Reformed Church in said town. That it appears by the marriage records of said Church that Simeon Turner was legally married to Anna Klapper the first day of September in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven which is expressed on said record in fair legible figures and letters as follows viz
1 den Septem } Simeon Turner and Anna Klapper 1787 } Zyn getrouwde
I Richard Sluyter abovenamed do depose and say that I hold the office of clergyman in the abovenamed Church that the above is a true extract from the records of said Church and further this deponent saith not.
Sworn to and subscribed this 18 th day of November 1810 before me and I further certify that said Richard Sluyter is a clergyman as above stated
Richard Sluyter Pastor of the R. D. Church Claverack
Peter Guyan Justice 3

Columbia County, } ss. Clerk's Office, }
I, William Miller
Clerk of the County of Columbia, Do hereby certify, That Peter Snyder _____ before whom the affidavit purports to have been sworn, was on the day of the date of the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County. And further, that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe the name of the said Justice subscribed to the said affidavit, to be his proper hand writing and signature.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my name and affixed the Seal of the said County, this 19 day of November 1840
William Miller Clerk.

Washington January 8 th 1844
Sir
Enclosed is the application of Anna Turner deceased (by her daughter Elizabeth Rops) for a pension under the act of the 7 th July 1838 - believing the proof of marriage conclusive. Whatever may be the result of your examination you will please direct to me and oblige
Very Respectfully Your Obedient Servant Henry Wynkoop
Col. J. L. Edwards. Commr. of Pensions War Department Washington

Matter of Applica- -tion of Simeon Turner for a Pen- sion
22894
Addrs, Amada Mattooo Cairo. N.Y.
Adm d
24 mofri -
280 $
Application for a Pension of Simeon Turner

State of New York, County of Greene &/p
On this the 20 th day of June 1833
personally came before me William Pierson one of the Justices of the peace in & for said county Simeon Turner the applicant who subscribed & swore to annexed declaration, and being first duly sworn according to law on his oath deposes & says, That he has made diligent search to find some person living by whom he could prove his services as a soldier of the revolution and as stated in annexed declaration, that he can find and knows of no person living by whom he can prove such service or of any other evidence in his power to procure, That he has been clear through from his place of residence in Greene County to Westchester county some few years since to find some of his officers or those who served with him to prove his service and could find none. That in consequence of old age his mental & bodily faculties are much impaired and consequently his memory is so decayed, that he cannot state or recollect more definitely than stated in his declaration, That for more than 40 years he has resided far from the scene of his services and of those who served with him, and has not had the means of seeing or hearing from them, and consequently his memory is less distinct, and his means of obtaining proof more impossible than it would have been had his residence since the revolution been different. That he has made use of all the means & exertions he believes it in his power to make to procure proof of his services, without success and without effect.
Simeon his X Turner mark
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid, And I further certify that I have been acquainted with deponent for several years that he is a credible witness and his statements entitled to full credit
Wm Pierson
Justice as aforesaid

State of New York Greene County ss. 3 C. William T. B. Herrmann Clerk of the said County do certify that William Pierson Esq. before whom the within affidavit was sworn, was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace of the said County, and that his signature thereto is genuine Witness my hand & seal of office this twenty Eighth day of June 1833.
William T. B. Herrmann Clerk

State of New York County of Greene 3/5 On this fifth — day of February 1833, personally appeared in open court, before the judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Greene now sitting, Simeon Turner a resident of the town of Cats in said county & state aged 70 years, who being first sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832
I Simeon Turner entered the service of the United States and served as here in stated, and under the fol- lowing named officers
At Newburgh N. Y. I enlisted voluntarily under Capt White to serve in the revolutionary army during the war. — was in the month of June to the best of my recollection & I think on the 16 th day of that month I cannot recollect the year in which I enlisted but believe it to be about three years before the peace Capt White after enlisting me told me I might go home stay six weeks, then and meet him at the same place, — did go home and met him at the appointed time about the first of Au- gust. marched with him to Snake Hill Orange Co. N.Y. where a garrison then lay, about six miles from Newburgh was enrolled in Capt James White, company (the of- ficer who enlisted me) belonging to a regiment I believe of Col Philip Van Cortlandt. George Finch was Lieut and The name of the adjutant was Wm Cramey Frederick Wisenfelt Ensign of the company. The names of any other officers of the reg t or company or at that station I cannot recollect. Col Van Cortlandt was at Snake Hill when I joined the troops there but left I believe

soon after and to the best of my recollection was absent most of the time while I was there. The troops were drawn off & on from Snake hill some times more and some times less but at no time to the best of my recollection being more than a regiment there and at all times a gar- rison kept there. Capt White's company to which I belonged was not called off at all but remained stationary at Snake hill while I served in that company. I continued at Snake hill and served in Capt White's company until the second spring after I enlisted in the month of May to the best of my recollection, was not called off from that place on any service but re- mained in garrison there - so that that I actually served at this place in Capt White's company one year 1 yr 8 mo and eight months - Then, by request of Capt White as we had nothing to do at Snake hill I with 30 other belonging to his company volunteered to go on to the frontier for nine months - went and I was attached to a company commanded by Capt Van Schoick - name of Lieut - Dewitt - Insign do not recollect - duties were to range the country on the frontier settlements in the counties of Orange & Ulster N.Y. on the west of the Hud- son River and protect them against the Indians were several companies engaged on this duty com- manded by Col. — Wisenfeldt. I suppose a regiment one company commanded by Capt Dubois, cannot recollect the names of any other officers. The head quarters of the troops on this duty were at Marble- town Ulster Co. N.Y. from whence they were sent as requi- red - Capt Van Schoick company was stationed at Marble

town some part of the time - though most of the time off rang- ing the country. continued on this service through the summer and until late in the fall or in Decemb- after to the best of my recollection a short time before the holidays when the company to which I belonged by Col Wisenfelt was discharged at Marbletown and directed to go home & remain until further or- ders, was engaged in this service in Capt Van Schoick's company six months certainly - went home to my residence place of residence New Marlborough Ar- range Co. N.Y. & remained there until in the summer after to the best of my recollection in the month of July after when I was summoned by Adjutant Mc Craney to go to Fishkill and get my discharge, went with him and received a discharge from one Col. or General Van Horne. Capt's White's & Van Schoick's companies were discharged. I do not recol- lect whether any other companies were discharged or not This. (When I received my discharge was to the best of my recol- lection the year after the war, peace was declared) - served as a private
Owing to old age and the consequent loss of memory it is impossible for me to state any more particular circum- stances than above nor the year when I entered the service or the exact time I served but I can and do positive- ly swear that I actually served as aforesaid as a private in Capt White's company at Snakehill one year and eight months and six months in Capt Van Schoick's com- pany for which service as a private I claim a pen- sion
I have made diligent search and can find and

know of no person living by whom I can prove my services as a revolutionary soldier
1 I was born May 30 th 1762 at Musquitoe Cove Long Isl d and as informed & believe 2 I have no record of my age 3 I lived at New Malborough Orange Co. N.Y. when called into service resided there (except when absent on service as aforesaid) until about the year 1790 th then removed to Claverack Columbia Co. N.Y. resided there about 30 years then removed to Cairo N.Y. where I have since continued to and do now reside 4 I voluntarily enlisted into the service as aforesaid 5 I cannot state more particularly than herein before stated as to the names of officers Regular or militia or regiments or other circumstances 6 I received a written discharge as aforesaid which was burnt about 40 years ago in the burning of a house in which I lived 7 I can state the names of a large number of persons in my present neighbourhood to whom I am known & who will testify as to my character for veracity and their belief of my services as a soldier of the revolution I will mention Elias Dutcher Mari Stoddard Shubel Ropfool Curtis Joseph H. Bowman & De
I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the Pension roll of the agency of any state.
Sworn & subscribed to day 4 years aforesaid in open court William V. D. Keenan Clerk Simeon T. Laurence Judge

We Thomas Stokes a Clergyman residing in the town of Cairo county of Greene & state of New York and John C. Burkans of the same place here by certify that we are well acquainted with Simeon Turner who has subscribed and sworn to the above de- clarations; that we believe him to be 70 years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
John C. Burkans Thomas Stokes
in open court. William V. B. Hermance Clerk
And the Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states - And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Thomas Stokes who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman resident in the town of Cairo said county & is a credible person and John C. Burkans who has also signed the same is a resident of the same town and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
R. D. Dabney William V. B. Hermance Clerk
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this _____ day of February
1833
I William V. B. Hermance Clerk of the Court of

10.4.20
Anna Turner
Dec 2
N.Y.
Suspended
Let Henry Wlyn Korp E.O Aug 31. 1844.
rejected Wash. H. Collins 14 July 46
Act July 7 38

N. York Anna Turner let. to A. Mattson 28. June 1839 Rejected
Acct July 1838

Original bond

State of New York Greene County ss.
On this twenty sixth day of May in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty five at a Court of Common pleas held at the Court-house in the village of Catskill in and for said County of Greene. Satisfactory evidence in open Court before the Judges thereof was adduced; that Anna Turner (widow of Simeon Turner) died on the twenty third day of November in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty, and left her surviving the following named children viz, Alexander Turner, Margaret Hinman, wife of Hiram Hinman, Elizabeth Ross, wife of Shubael Ross; and that said deceased was an applicant for a pension.
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said Court and County this 26 th May 1845.
Wm D. Drown Clk

Anna Turner
10757

Commissioner of Pensions
Dear Sir
The enclose I have been requested to submit to the department and it is stated to me to be certain proofs that the department has stated to be requisite in order to procure a pension. The papers on file will doubtless give the history of the case. Please report to me the result of this case and the other cases that I have had the honor to forward you at the earliest practicable period and you will save me much inconvenience.
Very respectfully Yours
John S. Collins

H
L. Edwards, pioneer of Pensions Washington City D. C.

Cairo N. Y. Feb 13 th 1839
Hon J. D. Edward Com of Pensions
Enclosed are papers on the application of Anna widow of Simeon Turner for a pension under act of 7 th July 1838 Communicate with me in relation to the application
Yours &c
Amasa Mattson

Cairo N.Y. June 24 th 1889
Dear Sir
In February last the papers were forwarded to your office on the application of Anna Turner widow of Simeon Turner a revolutionary pensioner for a pension. Not having heard from them I write to solicit a decision on the application.
Yours Amasa Mattson
Gen L. Edwards Esq Com of Pensions

Simon Sauer from Albury

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
  28 th Decr. 1782.  Simeon Turner  Pay   £21 3 1 
STATE OF NEW-YORK, } COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, Decr. 14 th 1844. }
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 1. now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
  First—under Capt.  Andrew White  in Col.  Richd. Weipnupels  Regt.    Second  " "  " "   "    Third  " "  " "   "    Fourth  " "  " "   "    Fifth  " "  " "   "    Sixth  " "  " "   "    Seventh  " "  " "   "    Eighth  " "  " "   "    Ninth  " "  " "   "    Tenth  " "  " "   "  
Philip Phelps Dep Comp t

Cairo N.Y. June 29 th 1833
Enclosed I return the pension papers of Simeon Turner with a supplementary affidavit -
It is impossible for him to procure any proof of his service. His faculties are much impaired & his recollection much decayed. He has lived for more than 40 years away from those who served with him & the place of his services, consequently those recollections have not been kept alive that otherwise would have been. - He is the poorest of the poor. If any further traditional evidence is required that he can produce - If however any further proof of service is required his application must be rejected .
Sympathies I suppose have no place in the discharge of your duties, but if your rules of proceeding will allow him a pension you will save the cutting reflection to a Revolutionary soldier while descending to the grave, that he was entitled to the bounties which his country has at last extended, but was deprived by poverty age & death of the means of obtaining them.
Believing him fairly entitled to a pension, I have the confidence to believe your views will agree with mine & that you will allow it.
Respectfully yours &
A. Meigs

10,701.
P. O.
Ann Turner
Service: _____
REJECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____ _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____ _____ _____
_____ Recognized.      _____ Contr
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18