Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 16799, John Winans, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Winnans, John Winnans or
N. 16 799
Catharine
CONTENTS

264 2 New York
John Hinans
of Reutellen within the State of New York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Hinans of the left - commanded by Col. Graham in the New York line for 7 months — " — "
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 2 3 Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 th day of Novbr. 1832 — — — and due to Clement St. Marie's estate
Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1832 $ 34.99 Semi-ann. allowance ending 4 th Mar. '33 10.66 $ 46.65
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Geo. C. Stiles Clerk, Book D. — Vol. 5. — Page 205

New York - 7466
Rept 25 July
Catharine Wymans widow of John Wymans —
who was a pensioner under the Act of 1818 and who died on the 19th: January, 1841 — of Albany Co in the State of N. York
who was a seaman  N.Y. in the _____ commanded by Captain _____ of the _____ commanded by _____ in the N. York — line for 17 — 8 days —
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 71 — Dollars 94 — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 24th: _____ day of July 1843 — and sent to Chas E. Jen- -King — Johnstown, N. Y.
Whole amount due . . . . . $359.70
[Act July 7, 1838.]
Recorded by W. Stewart _____ Clerk,
Book A Vol. 2 Page 111

State of New York
Albany County ss. On this 19 th day of July 1832 personally appeared before Joseph B. Moore a Judge of the County Courts of the County of Albany and State of New York John Winans a Clergyman and a resident of the town of Rensselaerville in the County of Albany and State of New York aged 88 years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832 That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated
He entered the said service in the town of Northcast in the County of Dutchess in the State of New York where he then resided, as a private in Capt. Hermans Company and Colo. Grahams Regiment in the month of June 1780, and went from there to Rhinebeck, then to Fishkill where there were three regiments, then to West Point, then to Kings Ferry then to Dobs Ferry, where they staid a short time & then marched back to Kings Ferry, and then went on board of Vessels and sailed up the River to Albany, He was then marched to Fort Edward in the said company, and was from there out on scouting parties, and then returned to the Fort where they quartered, and staid their time out which was in the fall of the said year, and then returned home. That he enlisted at this campaign for the term of three months .
The next summer in the year 1781. He enlisted for the term of four months in Capt. Shepherds Company in Colonel Wissenfelts Regiment, and went to Fishkill, Dobs Ferry, and at most of the other places mentioned above, and was then marched up to Albany where he was

Stationed and held a day of rejoicing on account of the surrender of Cornwallis. He continued at Albany until he was dismissed which was after the expiration of the term of four months, and then he returned home
That he was in no particular battles, that he served in the United States in the said War at least seven months, that he has no documentary evidence to prove his service, at this time nor does he know of any person he can procure at this time to testify to his service except Lewis Minion and George Wait who have made affidavits hereto annexed. That he resides 29 Miles from the city of Albany where the Courts of Record are held for the County of Albany, that he is very lame and infirm and is wholly unable to travel that distance from his home to attend the Court. That he served as a private soldier in the said Companys & Regiments and during the said seven months. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the Pension roll of the agency of any State. Given to and John Wirtans declared subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Before me J. B. Moore Judge of Albany County Courts -
State of New York
Albany County ss. George Wait residing in the town of Durham in the County of Green in the State of New York, aged nearly 70 years being duly sworn says that he well knows Elder John Minion who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration and that he knew the said

John Minns during the Revolutionary War And this deponent further states that he well knows that the said John Minns did serve as a soldier in the said War as he states in his said declaration, that he well recollects that the said John Minns did belong to Capt. Hermans Company & Colonel Grubbs Regiment and knows that he served three months in the said Com- -pany & Regiment, and at the places stated in the declaration of the said John Minns.
And this deponent further says that he this deponent was called to go into the service in Capt. Shepherds Company & Colonel Wisenfelts Regiment for the term of four months, and hired a substitute to take his place, that he understood at the time, that the said John Minns belonged to the said Company & Regiment at the time he states in 1781. and that he served four months in the same, as he has stated in his said declaration and that he verily believes and has no doubt, but that he did perform the said service. And also that he verily believes the facts and circumstances stated in the declaration of the said John Minns to be substantially true - He further states that the said John Minns is a Clergyman in the Baptist Church -
George Wait Groom subscribed this 19 th day of July 1832
Before me J. B. Moore Judge
of Albany County Courts -
I certify that I am well acquainted with George Wait the above deponent, that he is a credible person & that his statement is entitled to credit. J. B. Moore Judge

And I the said Judge do hereby my opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the within named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And I do further certify, that the said declarant is a clergyman, and that he is a man of truth and veracity. And further that I am well acquainted with George Wait who has made the within affidavit, and that he is a credible person, and that his statement is entitled to credit. And I further certify that the said applicant cannot attend the court by reason of bodily infirmity -
J. B. Moore Judge
State of New York City & County of Albany ss.
Clerks Office I Conrad A. Ten Eyck Clerk of the City and County of Albany do hereby certify that Joseph B. Moore before whom the within declaration & affidavit were sworn and who has made the above certificate is a judge of the County Courts of the County of Albany, and that the signature "J. B. Moore" to the said declaration affidavit and certificate is his genuine signature. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County this 21st day of July 1832 C. A. Ten Eyck Clerk

State of New York.
Personally came before me Stephen Renne a justice of the peace of the County of Green in the state of New York. Lewis Winans and says he is personally acquainted with John Winans that the the said John Winans was a soldier in the Revolutionary War of the United States and Deponent further says he thinks according to the best of his recollection said John Winans was three months in the service at the time above referred to - and has understood that said John Winans served seven months in the whole in the Army
His Lewis Winans mark
Sworn and subscribed before me this 18th day of July 1832
Stephen Renne Justice

July 26 1822
Pension Office
3701
Library

State of New York Schoharie County ss Job Cook residing in the town of Broome in the County of Schoharie and State of New York aged 68 years being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that he well knows John Minans late a revolutionary soldier residing in the town of Rensselaerville in the County of Albany, and knew him perfectly well in the Revolutionary War, And this deponent further says that he well knows that the said John Minans enlisted in Capt Shepherds Company and Colo. Misenfolds regiment in the month of July 1781 for the term of Four months as a private soldier , and knows that he served the said term of Four months and was discharged at Albany in the month of November 1781 - And this deponent further says, that he belonged to the same Company and regiment and well knows that the said John Minans performed the said Service as above stated -
And this deponent further says that he has always understood that the said John Minans served in Capt Hermans Company and Colo Grahams regiment for the term of three months in the year 1780, and verily believes that he did serve as he has stated in his said declaration, that the said John Minans is a Clergyman, and is a man of truth and veracity and that his statement is entitled to credit and belief
Sworn and subscribed this Job Cook 17 th day of November 1832 Before me
Henry  Harm Justice of the Peace

Schoharie County ss. I the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Schoharie in the State of New York do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with John Cook who has subscribed and sworn to the within affida- vit, that he is a credible person and that his statement is entitled to full credit and belief - In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this 17 th day of November 1832
Henry Harner J.P.
State of New York
Schoharie County ss. I John Gebhard Junr Clerk of the County of Schoharie in the State aforesaid do hereby certify that Henry Harner Esq. before whom the within affidavit was sworn and who has made the foregoing certificate is, a Justice of the peace in and for the said County of Schoharie; duly commissioned and sworn; and that the signature "Henry Harner" to the said affidavit and certificate is his genuine signa- ture - In testimony whereof I have here- unto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County this 19 th day of November A.D. 1832 -
John Gebhard Jr. Clerk of Schoharie County Court

State of New York
Albany County ss On this 18 th day of November 1832 Personally appeared before me Joseph B. Moore a Judge of the County Court of the County of Albany and State aforesaid John Wirians residing in the town of Rensselaerville in the County of Albany and State of New York aged 68 years and upwards who being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he entered the service of the United States at the Town of Northeast in the County of Dutchess and State of New York a volunteer and enlisted in Capt. Hermans Com- -pany and Colonel Grahams Regiment in the month of June 1780. for the term of three months as a private soldier and served at the dif- -ferent places mentioned in his declaration hereto annexed untill his term of three months expired, and was dismissed at Fort Edward about the last of September or first of October 1780.
He again entered the said service at Northeast aforesaid a volunteer and enlisted in Capt. Shepherds Company and Colo- -nel Wisenfelts Regiment in the month of July 1781 for the term of Four months as a private soldier, and served at the places and in the manner set forth in his declaration hereto annexed, untill the the said term of Four months expired, and was dismissed at Albany the last of October 1781.
He was in the actual service of the United States in the Revolutionary War in an embodied Corps and served as a private soldier for the term of Seven months and for such service he claims a pension
He never received a written
7. Months

discharge, nor was he in any battle -
He was born on the 29 th of June 1764 at a place now called Northcarr in the County of Dutchess in the State of New York where he resided at the time of entering the said service at the several periods above mentioned. There  then he continued to reside until he removed to the said town of Pempelaeusville where he has lived for the last 40 years -
He has a record of his age in a book at his own house
He knew Colo Malcolm Colo Nisenfelt. Colo Dubois & other Officers while in the service. He does not recollect what Continental or Militia Regiments he served with
He is a Clergyman of the Baptist Church and is known to Salmon Ford. Reuben Ford. Warner Barnes, Sylvanus Purington, Peter Hepp & others who reside in his present neighbourhood and can testify to his character for veracity and their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution.
He is now very lame with the Rheumatism and has had a very severe fit of sickness recently, and cannot possibly travel to Court which is 29 miles distant from his residence, every if he is denied a pension on that account - He cannot possibly travel to Court on account of his lameness. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension other than the one under act of June 7. 1832
He has no documentary evidence, nor can he procure any person to testify to his services, other than the persons who have generally made affidavits

hereto annexed although he has made diligent exertions to procure further testi- mony - John H. Williams
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Before me - J. B. Moore Judge of Albany County Courts
State of New York
Albany County ss
I Conrad A Ten Eyck Clerk of the City and County of Albany do hereby certify that Joseph B. Moore before whom the foregoing declaration was sworn, is a Judge of the County Courts of the County of Albany in the State of New York, and that the sig- nature "J. B. Moore" to the said declaration is his genuine signature - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County this 24th day of November 1832
C. A. Ten Eyck Clerk

9025 Mrs Winans Declaration
Catharine Winans
NY.
abt 7. July 38
m 83 d 41.
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Sheldon Rest
enterd March 18 38 discharged - Nov 18 38
not on Richmond roll
Adm'd 17 mo - 8 days Dragoon
$71.94
Chas. E. Jenkins Johnstown NY.

State of New York
County of Albany ss
On this second day of May in the year Eighteen hundred and Fortythree personally appeared before me Robert W Murphy, a Judge of the Court of Common pleas of Albany County (the said Court being a Court of record) Catharine Winans a resident of the Town of Mansfieldville in said County aged Seventy Seven years, Who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath, make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7 th 1838. Entitled An act granting half pay and pensions to certain Widows. That she is the widow of John Winans who was a Soldier in the revolutionary army and was a pensioner under the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. She further declares that she was married to the said John Winans on the 27 th day of August In the year Seventeen hundred and Eighty three and that her husband the aforesaid John Winans died on the thirteenth  and fortyone day of January Eighteen hundred and fortyone that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the first of January Eighteen hundred and ninety four, viz, at the time above stated, That her surname previous to her marriage was Walters and that she was married in the County of Dutchess State of New York by a Baptist Clergyman by the name of Bullock, she further declares that she knows of no record of her marriage being in existence except the annexed leaf or Memorandum cut out of an old family Bible which Bible has been kept in her possession and used for a family Bible a great number of years Which record was made in the handwriting of Elisha Hildreth, together with the names and date of the Births of ten of their eldest Children about Twenty years ago she further declares that she is not sworn to stand subscribed able to write her name on this second day of May, 1843
before me
D r W Murphy Judge
of Albany County ss
Catharine her  X Winans Mark
The above named applicant is aged and infirm and in my opinion unable to attend Court
D r W Murphy Judge

State of New York County of Albany ss } Elisha Humphrey aged Forty seven years being Duly Sworn Says that he is a son in law of the City or Catharine Winans the within named applicant that his Father in law John Winans died on or about the nineteenth day of January Eighteen Hundred and Forty one and that his Mother in law the aforesaid City or Catharine Winans has ever since remained and now is his widow Sworn & subscribed this 2 d day of May 1843 before me (1843) Interline before signing
J. W. Murphy Esq. } Elisha Humphrey of Albany County Court
I do hereby certify that the above deponent viz Elisha Humphrey is to me well known and that he is a credible witness J. W. Murphy Esq.

State of New York } Albany County ss } On this 2 d Day of May Eighteen Hundred & Fortythree personally appeared before me Elisha Humphrey, of the Town of Rensselaerville in said County aged Forty seven years who being first Duly sworn, Deposeth & saith that that he is a Son in law of John Winans Deceased & Catharine or Katy Winans formerly his wife and now his Widow, He further saith that about Twenty years ago he being at the house of John Winans and Katy or Catharine Winans they the said John Winans & Catharine Winans requested him the said Humphrey to write a memorandum of their the said John & Katy or Catharine Winans Births & Marriage together with the dates thereof and likewise of their first Children commencing with Holly Winans he being the oldest child this Deponent saith that he did then and there execute a memorandum according to their request upon the leaf of an old Family Bible viz the leaf and Memorandum here annexed which Memorandum he believes to be a true statement of the facts it contains
Sworn to & subscribed this 2 d Day of May 1843 before me (that) twice inserted and once
Elisha Humphrey
J. W. Murphy Judge of Albany County Court
I Certify that the above Deponent is a credible witness
J. W. Murphy Judge &c

State of New York County of Albany ss
I Henry B. Haswell Clerk of the said County do hereby certify that Robert W. Murphy before whom the preceding affidavits purport to have been sworn was on the day of the date of the jurats thereto a judge of Albany County Courts. And I verily believe that his signatures to the said jurats are genuine being acquainted with his hand writing
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and affixed the Seal of the said County this 4 th day of May 1843. H. B. Haswell Clerk

CHAP. IV.  Gods judgement on the wicked.  Before Christ cir 397. CHAP. IV.  1 Gods judgement on the wicked. 2 and his blessing on the good: 3 he exhorteth to the study of the law. 4 he telleth of Elias coming and of c.  Behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble, and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.  2 But unto you that fear my name shall the sun of righteousness arise, with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.  3 And ye shall tread down the wicked for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet, in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.  4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.  5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.  6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.  Before Christ cir 397. Psalm 49. 14. Romans 16. 20. 2 Thess. 2. 8. Exodus 20. 4. Joh. 5. 45. Malachi 3. 14. Joel 2. 31. Luke 1. 17. Zeche 14. 12. Rev. 16. 14.
The End of the Old Testament.
John Winans was born June 29 1769 the And was married August 21 In the year 1783 Cathy Winans was born 1766 and Kelly Winans April 5 1783
John Winans was 1785 Richard Sept 24 1786 William was born Sept 24 Zilpha Winans was Sept 14 1790 Nancy Winans December Isaac Winans was born Dec 1791 Winans was born January 1792 In the year 1796 1797 Winans was born 1798

Stephen van Ranselaer Winans was born Oct 25 1801 Huldah Winans was born July the 28 1818 Peter E. Winans was born September 1819
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Rev. and 1812 Wars Section.
aw
September 20, 1927
Miss Grace Slingerland P. O. Box 162 Slingerlands, N. Y.
Madam:
I have to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim W. 16799, it appears that John Winans was born June 29, 1764 at North-East, Dutchess County, New York.
While residing at said North-East, he enlisted and served as a private with the New York Troops, as follows-
From June 1780, three months in Captain Hermance's Company, Colonel Graham's Regiment; and from July 1781, four months in Captain Shepherd's Company, Colonel Weissenfels' Regiment.
He was allowed pension on his application executed July 19, 1832, while a resident of Rensselaerville, Albany County, New York, at which time he was a Clergyman in the Baptist Church. He died

January 19, 1841.
Soldier married August 27, 1783 in Dutchess County, New York, Catharine or Caty Walters, who was born in 1766. She was allowed pension on her application executed May 2, 1843, while a resident of Rensselaerville, New York.
Their children-
Holly born October 9, 1783. John " ----- --, 1785. Richard " September 29, 1786. Will--- " September 8, ---- Zilpha " September 18, 1790. Nancy " December --, ---- Isaac " December --, ---- Lida " January --, 1796. (Illegible) " -----, --, 1798. Stephen Van R. " October 25, 180- Huldah " July 28, 1808. Peter " September --, 1809.
Elisha Elisha Humphry, a son-in-law, was forty-seven years old in 1843 and living at Rensselaerville, New York.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT Commissioner.

1913 June 11 Hist. to Adele B. Simpson. V.L.M.
1913 Sept. 26. Dra. Winans advised no data as to parents and not stated that soldier had brothers, see carbon copy of letter in W. File 16527 Silas Winans. and
1919 June 9 Hist. to Mr. Stanley J. Schaeffer
1927 Sept. 20. " " Miss Grace S. Linderburg
Rev WIDOW, &c.
File No. 165799
Catharine Winans Widow of John Winans Dragnet Rev. War
Act: July 7 th 1838
Index:—Vol. M Page 363

9025
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Catharine Mynard
N.Y. 22-
 12  4.16  17 48 
let to Chas. E. Jenkins July 13 43 -
att 7 July 1838

See Letter 17 Aug. '43 to O.E. Jenkins -
Should be allowed for 2038 3 /p -

July 21 45
Cath. Weymans
Betty Gehring My Gmt
38
FREE
James J. Edwards Esq. Commr. of Pensions War Dept Washington

Johnstown July 17. 1843
James L. Edwards Esq. Commr. of Pensions Sir,
Yours of the 13 th inst in relation to the case of Catharine Wymans is duly recd. - You may issue a certificate to her for the term of service of the husband specified in your letter.
Will you please inform me of the age of the family record sent on in Betsey Golding's case and also the reason why her record will not be sufficient to prove the marriage, when you have admitted Mr. Dunning's record -
I am very respectfully Your obt Servt.
W. Jenkins

Aug 17 43
Cath Wynam N.Y. Wk 35
James L. Edwards Esquire Commr. of Pensions War Dept. Washington City.

Albany Pension Agency August 15. 1843.
James L. Edwards Esquire Commissioner of Pensions,
Sir,
Your letter of the 12 th inst. respecting the case of Margaret Wymans, was received this morning. I presume the Pension referred to is Catherine Wymans, as the name of Margaret Wymans is not on our Books. Catherine Wymans' pension for 5 years, at the rate of $71:94 per annum, was paid on the 9 th inst. to Theodore Foster, her Attorney-
Very Respectfully
Your obed t Serv t
Thos. M. O'Callaghan Pro t Pension Agt.

Aug 11 '43
Cathy Wrynany NY rate 38
7466-38
Edward Gay Commr. of Pensions War Dept Washington

Schuhmann Aug 7. 1843
James L. Edwards Esq Commissioner of Pensions
Sir.
John Wynnans was a pensioner under act of 7 June 1832 at $23. 33 per annum - He died 19 January 1840. His widow Catharine Wynnans (in whose behalf I lately applied) has received a pension under Act of 7 July 1838 at $71.94 per annum - Is she entitled to the arrears due him i.e the difference between his other pension from the Nat '31 to 19 Jan'y 1840.? If so please inform me in what way I must apply for the same -
Yours respectfully
Richd E. Jenkins

2811
J. L. Edwards Esq. War Dept Washington

STATE OF NEW-YORK, } ss. County of Albany
On this 9 th day of August in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty- 3 before the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County
personally appeared Catharine Winans a resident of the town of Rensselaerville in said county, aged Seventy Six years who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed on the 3d of March 1843, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the revolu- tionary war:
That she is the widow of John Winans who was a Dragoon  Officer in the Revolutionary War and a pensioner under act of 7 th June 1832 , at $23.33 per annum and refers to the papers sent on by him for proof as to the Regiments in which he served when he made application under said act
She further declares that she was a Pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress, passed July 7, 1838, and that the annual amount of the pension which she received under the said act was Seventy one Dollars and Ninety four Cents
She further declares that she is still a widow. and that she never learned the word Soldier wailed and Dragoon to write Interlined
Sworn to and subscribed on the day } and year first above written. }
Melanton Smith Justice
Adaline Smith Witness
Catharine X Winans Mark
I Certify that the above declarant is personally known to me.
Melanton Smith Justice
STATE OF NEW-YORK, } ss. County of Albany
I, Henry B Henshall clerk of said county, do hereby certify that Melanton Smith was on the day of the date of the above jurat and certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said county, duly appointed and qualified, and that the signature above, purporting to be his, is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of of- f- ice and subscribed my name, this Ninth day of August 184 3 .
H. B. Henshall Atty.

Albany Aug 10 1813
J. S. Edwards Esq Commr. of Pensions Sir,
I herewith transmit the application of Catharine Wrennins for a pension under Act of March 1813
Respectfully
In obt Servt
Chas E Jenkins
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that one
women

90259. May 1843 D. C.
NY July 7 1838 Cath. Wm. Wm.
John 32
James L. Schuchert Esq. Comm. of Envoys Bartleby Washington
BRICK

Stamstown May 6. 1843
James S. Edwards Esq Comm t . of Pensions
Sir,
Enclosed I send the application of Catharine Wrenn for a pension under Act of July 7. 1838 with the proofs in support of her claim.
Yours Respectfully
Thos Jenkins

J. S. Edwards Esq War Dept Washington

Albany Aug 10, 1843
James L. Edwards Esq Comm. of Pensions Sir.
Will you please forward all Communications to me after the receipt of this letter to Albany and much oblige
Your obed Servt Chas E Jenkins

North Bloemheim, N.Y., May 23rd, 1919.
Dept' Interior Bureau of Pensions Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:—
Will you kindly send me the war record of John Winans, who en- listed in the Revolutionary war, at No. East, Dutchess Co., N.Y., in the year 1780, and was granted a pension on July 19, 1832.
Also of William 2 Winans who fought in the Rev- olutionary. Sincerely yours, Mrs. Stanley J. Schaeffer.

Slingerlands, N.Y. Sept. 8 th 1937.
United States Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:-
Rev. John Winans, born Aug. 29 th 1764, served as a private in Col. Wisenfels Regt. Leies in the War of the American Revolu- tion. His name is signed to the New York State Soldiers payroll for 1781. He received a pension from our Government, which elapsed at his death which occurred at the home of his daughter Mrs. Nancy Winans Mattice (Mrs. Adam Mattice) Living- stonville Schoharie Co. N.Y., Jan. 19 th 1841.
I am one of his descendants, and am very anxious to learn the dates or length of his service in the Army. My Chapter D.A.R. is to mark

his grave, which has been located, and wish the dates for the marker. I am taking the liberty of writing you, trusting that if your Bureau has this information you will kindly forward the same, for which you will greatly oblige
Yours very truly Grace Slingerland
P.O. box 162 Slingerlands, N.Y.

Albany, N. Y.
May 31, 13
United States Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
On the Census of Pensions of the year 1840, John Winans, of Livingstonville, N. Y. (I think that was his address-is mentioned as living with Adam Mattice) appears as a pensioner and I would like to ask you for a copy of his application, so that I may obtain the data I am seeking. He was a member of The New York Levies, Col. Weissenfel's Regiment, but that is all we know about him.
Thanking you in advance for your courtesy I am
Very sincerely
(Mrs) Adele B. Simpson, 200 Lancaster St.

see carbon copy of reply to this letter in claim of Silas Winans  W. 165270 96 University Ave.
Rochester, N.Y. Sep. 18, 1913
Hon. G. M. Saltzgaber, Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
My dear Sir,
On June 11th 1913, you furnished Mrs. Adele B. Simpson, 200 Lancaster St. Albany, N.Y. a Rev. War record of John Winans, who enlisted June 1780, and served 3 mo's under Capt. Hermansee & Col. Graham, N.Y.; & July 1781, & served 4 mo's under Capt. Shepard & Col. Weissenfels, N.Y. In the upper left hand corner of your information sheet appears: V.L.M. " W.F. 16,799.
As in his application for pension, dated July 19, 1832, claim allowed, the names of his father and mother appear or either of them, especially hers, and their residence will you please furnish me with them, and their birth and death dates & places, if they appear, and much oblige, your obedient servant, Ina Winans

J.L.M. Rev. War Section.
June 11, 1913.
Mrs. Adele B. Simpson, 200 Lancaster Street, Albany, N. Y.
Madam:
In addition to the military history of John Winans, W. File No. 16,799, Rev. War. you are furnished the following data as to his children.
Holly, born October 9, 1783. John, " ----- 1785. Richard, " September 29, 1786. Will---, " September 8, ----. Zilpha, " September 18, 1790. Nancy, " December -- ----. Isaac, " December -- ----. Lida, " January --, 1796. (Illegible) " ----- 1798. Stephen Van R. " October 25, 180--. Hulda, " July 28, 1808. Peter, " September--, 1809.
Very respectfully,
J. M. [Signature] Commissioner.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
W. F. 16799
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of John Kiernan a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     June 1780 3 mos. Pvt. Hermans Graham N.Y.   July 1781 4 mos. " Shepherd Kissam        
Battles engaged in, _____
Residence of soldier at enlistment, North East, Dutchess Co. N.Y.
Date of application for pension, July 19 1832 His el. was at _____ at which time wife
Residence at date of application, Rensselaerville, Albany Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, June 29 1764 at North East N.Y.
Remarks: d. Jan'y 19 1841
He was Catherine or Katy Walters Aug. 27 1783 in Dutchess Co. N.Y. She was al. pension on an application executed May 2 1843 while a resident of Rensselaerville N.Y. aged 79 years. Elisha Humphrey was a son-in-law. 47 yrs old in 1843 see Supplement herewith for further family data.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.