Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 25875, John Warren, Continental Mass.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Continental Mass.
Warren, John Elizabeth
No. 25875
{ B.L. Wt. 2316-200-Sept. Issued Nov. 12, 1789. No papers.
CONTENTS

Dead. See letter to Hon. D. Farlin H. R. Jan. 3. 1837.
Application sent July 25th 1840 to James Buchanan Esq. Secy of War
852
New-York.
John Warren, Ensign & Lieutenant 4 Massachusetts line -
in the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War
Inscribed on the Roll of New-York , at the rate of 20 Dollars per month, to commence the 6 th of April, 1818.
Certificate of Pension issued the 4 th of June, 1818 and sent to the pensioner, care of Salmon Child, Esq; judge of the Court of Common Pleas, Saratoga, N.Y.
Arrears to 4th of September, 1818 $: 99.33 Semi-annual ending
4 mo. 29 days $: 99.33.
{ Revolutionary claim, } { Act 18th March, 1818 }
Putnam Massachusetts line 8 years
Saratoga, Saratoga Continue

Dead. See letter to A. Belknap, May 9. 1838.
Albany 1778
Elizabeth Warren
widow of John Warren
died on the 24 Dec. 1824
Saratoga Co. in the State of N. York.
who was a Lieut. Ensign in the company commanded by Captain Smith of the Regt. — commander by Col. Slack in the Mass.
time for 17 months & 14 days $ 232.54
6 " 4. 16 " Ensign 65.33
$297.87
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany
at the rate of 297 Dollars 87 Cents, per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 13. day of Feb. 1838 and sent to Hon. J. I. Delyraff, H. R.
Arrears to the 4th of Sep '37 1936.15 Pemi-annual allowance ending 14 Dec '38 148.93
$2085.08
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the 3 —
Recorded by D. Brown
& A.
Vol. 2
Clerk
Page 121

B1104 May 8 1888
3 Pension
Pension Office.
Eliz. Warren My Wm. 1836
1778
Hon. Sec. of War Washington

Newburgh May 4 th 1838
Hon. Joel R. Poinsett, Secretary of War Sir
A pension was granted under the 3 rd Section of the Pension law of 1836 to Elizabeth Warren, widow of John Warren an officer in the Revolutionary army.
Before the receipt of her Pension, Mrs Warren died, leaving six children, and one Grand child, the son of one of her children who had died before his mother.
Will you have the goodness to inform me, whether under the construction given to the law above mentioned, the Grandson of the Pensioner is entitled to the share of the Pension to which his father, if living would have been entitled, or do the surviving children take the whole of the Pension.
Yours respectfully
Abner Belknap

V728. 3. Ser.
Elizabeth Warren widow of Lt. John Warren N.Y.
In Final Set Certificate Vol 2 page 196-197 from to Nov 4, 1783 Comm ce Certificate 1 March 1784
Admitted Lieut 17 mo & 14 days Ensign 6 & 16 " 2 years
Hon. S. Farlin Hon. John I. D. D. D. Home Ref. U.S.

State of New York
Saratoga ss. On this 23 d Day of November 1836 Personally appeared before Thomas J. Marvin Esquire a Judge of the County Court of said County Elizabeth Warren a Resident of the Town of Saratoga Springs in the County & State aforesaid aged Seventy Two Years who being first duly sworn according to Law Doth on her oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision of the act of Congress passed July 4 th . 1836: That she is the Widow of John Warren deceased who was a Lieutenant in the army of the Revolution & served as such several years: Deponent has often heard her husband relate the particulars of his service But her health & infir- -mity of age is now such that she cannot undertake to give a detailed account of the same - She has heard her husband say that he entered the service in 1776. in the State of Massachusetts - he enlisted first for a short period when that expired he enlisted for full years or during the war according to her present recollection - That he was at the Battle of Bunker hill - That in 1777 he was at the surrender of Burgoyne at Saratoga - he was also at the Battle of Monmouth. When deponent first knew the said John Warren he was stationed at West Point, deponent then residing at Newburgh. This was she believes in 1782 - After leaving West Point he was stationed with the Troops at Snake hill near Newburgh It was there when peace was decl- -ared & remained there stationed till the army was disbanded in the Fall of the year 1783 as near as de- ponent now recollects. Deponent has heard the said John often name his superior officers But cannot now undertake to give an account of them. She recollects of hearing him speak of Doctor Warren

who was killed at Brinker hill, & of General Pitt: name who had a command there. - of General Gates who commanded at Saratoga - of General Arnold who was also there - of General Lee who was at Monmouth. & of General Washington who was there at or at the Close of the Battle - she re- = ollects hearing her husband say that when the American Troops were partially retreating at Monmouth. General Washington met them & Blamed General Lee & renewed the attack again as near as she remembers. Deponent says the Commission of her husband were sent on to the War Department when he obtained a pension under the act of 1818. She refers the secretary of War to those papers which contain the evidence of his service. He said John did not leave the service until the army was disbanded then he was discharged at Newburgh. Deponent has now no documentary evidence of his service All the papers were sent to the War Department on the application of the said John for his Pension as aforesaid -
Deponent further Declares That she was Married to the said John Warren on the 29 th Day of July 1783 before the expiration of his service in the Army after Revolution. That her husband the aforesaid John Warren Died on the 24 th Day of December in the Year 1824. And that she had remained a widow ever since That Period as will more fully appear by reference to the proof hereto annexed.
Elizabeth Warren
I certify That Elizabeth Warren Swore to & subscribed the above declaration on the Day then above written before me. I also

certify that the said Elizabeth Warren is well known to me & has been so known to me for many years. That she is a person of strict truth & veracity The statement may be relied on with perfect confidence - I further certify that the said Elizabeth is a very aged & infirm woman that she is unable by reason of bodily infirmity to appear in open court - or to attend there for the purpose of making their depositions -
Thos M c Manus Judge of Gen. Crim. Pleas.
State of New York Saratoga County ss. Clerk's office
I, Stephen Goodrich Clerk of the County of Saratoga do certify that Thomas M c Manus before whom the annexed affidavit purports to have been sworn, was at the time of the same one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of said Coun- ty and that I am acquainted with his handwriting and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affida- vits to be his proper hand writing and signature. Witness my hand and seal of office the 29 th day of November 1836. A Goodrich Clerk

State of New York
Saratoga ss. on this 25 th Day of November 1836 personally appeared before me Marmus J. Marmus Esquire a Judge of the County Court of said County Miles Beach a Resident of the Village of Saratoga Springs & Post Master of said Village who being first duly sworn accord- ing to Law Both on his oath depose & say that he well knew John Warren before his death & his wife Elizabeth Warren has known them for upwards of Twenty Five Years. That the said John Warren died in December 1824. That his widow the said Elizabeth Warren has never been married since the death of the said John That the said Elizabeth, has ever since the de- ponent knew her been a communicant in the Presbyterian Church & Respectably all her acquaintances as a person of sincere piety & of undoubted Truth & veracity. Deponent says that the said John Warren was always known as an officer in the army of the Revolution. Depo- nent has frequently heard him tell of his battles particularly, at Brandywine at Saratoga & at Monmouth. Has often heard him say that he enlisted at the commencement & served until the close of the War & until the army was disbanded. The said John drew a pension as an officer several years before his death as de- ponent knows from having Received his pension money for him -
I certify that Miles Beach swore to the foregoing the above affidavit on the Day & Year above written before me. I also certify that the said Miles Beach is well known to me & that his statement is entitled to implicit credit.
Miles Beach
Hon. Marmus Judge of Sar. Co. Pleas.

Saratoga ss. On this 25 th Day of November 1836 personally appeared before me Thomas J. Mawson Esq. a Judge of the County Court of said County, Gideon M Davidson, Darius O Griswold, William S Warren & Deponent William A Beach Residents of the Village of Saratoga Springs in said County who being first severally duly sworn according to Law, on their respective oaths do severally say each for himself that they have for upwards of fifteen years been well acquainted with Elizabeth Warren the Relict & Widow of Captain John Warren deceased. That the said Elizabeth is a member of the Presbyterian Church in good standing & has always maintained the character of a sincere & devoted Christian & her statements may be relied on with the utmost confidence. Deponents further say that the said Elizabeth hath never been married since the death of the said John Warren deceased. Deponents further say that the said John Warren was well known to them & that he was always reputed to have been an officer in the army of the revolution.
I certify That Gideon M Davidson Darius Griswold William S Warren & William A Beach severally swore to & subscribed the above affidavit on the Day & Year above written. I also certify That Gideon M Davidson is a Clerk in Chancery in said State. That Darius Griswold is the Pastor of the Presbyterian Church in said Village. That William A Beach is a Notary of the peace. & William S Warren a Master in Chancery. That they are all well known to me & have been for many years & their statements may be relied on with implicit credit.
Wm S Warren
Wm Beach
G. M. Davidson
D. O. Griswold
Thos. J. Mawson
Judge of Sar. Co. Ct. Ploce.

State of New York
Orange County ss On this fourteenth day of November in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty six, personally appeared before me James F. Clinton Esquire a Judge of the County Court in said County, Isaac Belknap a resident of the town of Newburgh in said County and State aforesaid aged Seventy five years, who being duly sworn according to law, doth depose and say that he is well acquainted with Elizabeth Warren now a resident of the town of Saratoga Springs in the County of Saratoga and State aforesaid Widow and relict of John Warren deceased who was a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary Army.
And this deponent further says that he was well acquainted with the said John Warren deceased in his lifetime and knows that he was an Officer in the revolutionary Army for several years before its close. And this deponent further says that he was present at the time and witnessed the Solemnization of the Marriage between the said John Warren and Elizabeth Warren; that the ceremony was performed by the Revd John Close in or about the month of July, in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty three, and this deponent further says that the said Marriage took place while the said John Warren was in the actual service and before the army was disbanded according to the best of this deponent's recollection and belief.
Isaac Belknap
before me this 14th day of November 1836
J. F. Clinton a Judge of Orange County Court.
I hereby certify that I have been acquainted with the said Isaac Belknap for many years and that he is a man of un doubted veracity. This statement is entitled to implicit credit.
J. F. Clinton one of the Judges of Orange County Court.

State of New York
Orange County 3 p.
I Lebbey L. Foss Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County. Do certify that James G. Clinton before whom the foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same a Judge of Orange County Courts in and for said County; and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Judge, and that the signature affixed to the same is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court this 15 th day of November 1836.
Lebbey L. Foss Clerk
I am well acquainted with Isaac Belknap whose name is signed to the foregoing deposition or affidavit & he is a man of character and respectability & his statements entitled to the utmost credit & confidence.
John M. Brown of New York

State of New York
Orange County ss. On the 26 th Day of November 1836 personally appeared before James G. Clinton a Judge of the County Court of said County Aaron Belknap & Benjamin Carpenter residents of Newburgh in said County who being first duly sworn according to Law on their solemn oaths do respectively depose & say that they have for more than Twenty five Years been intimately acquainted with Isaac Belknap of the said Town of Newburgh & that the said Isaac hath always sustained a fair & irreproachable reputation. This Truth For a city have never been impeached To Dependants knowledge or belief & deponents say that any statement he may make is entitled to implicit credit.
Aaron Belknap
Benj a Carpenter
I certify that Aaron Belknap & Benjamin Carpenter solemnly swore to & subscribed the above affidavit on the Day & year above written. I also certify that they are persons well known to me & that they are men of undoubted truth & veracity & their statement entitled to credit.
J. G. Clinton a Judge of Orange County Court

State of New York Saratoga County ss:
Be it Remem- bered that on the Sixth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & Eighteen personally came before me Salmon Child one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Saratoga John Warren of the Town & County of Saratoga who being duly sworn by me declared that he served in the War of the Revolution from the Year one thousand seven hundred & Seventy five un- till the End thereof on the Continental Establish- -ment - That on the twenty Seventh day of August one thousand seven hundred & Eighty one he Re- ceived a Commission from Congress appointing him to an Ensign in the Fifth Massachusetts Regiment in the Army of the United States and to take Rank as such from the twenty sixth day of November one thousand seven hundred & Seventy nine - And that he Entered the service as Ensign on the twenty seventh day of August one thou- sand seven hundred & Eighty one & served as Ensign in Captain Smiths Company in the Fifth Regiment under Colonel Rufus Putnam in the Massachusetts Line until the fifth day of November one thousand seven hundred & eighty two when he Received from Congress a Commis- -ion appointing him to a Lieutenant in the Massachusetts line in the Army of the United States & to take Rank as such from the Nine teenth day of May one thousand seven hundred & Eighty two & that he thereupon immediately

entered the Service & served as Lieutenant in the same Company Regiment & Line un- -till the Close of the War in the Year One thou- sand & even hundred & Eighty three when the army was disbanded in consequence whereof he left the Service - That from the Date of his Ensigns Commission untill the Close of the War he continued in the Service & served faithfully as a Commissioned officer against the common Enemy - That he is now a Resident Citizen of the United States & now actually Resides in the Town of Saratoga in the County of Saratoga has not heretofore been allowed any pension from the United States - That he is now sixty four Years of age & is by Reason of his Reduced circumstances in life in need of assistance from his Country for Support -
Sworn & Subscribed the Sixth day of April 1818 Before me
John Warren
Salem Ghid One of the Judges of the Court of Common pleas of the County of Saratoga

John Mann and Dulation No. 852
Sept 1818

State of New York.
City of Troy
On this fifth day of July 1820 personally appeared in open court, (being a court of record in and for the said City according to the solemn adjudications of the Supreme Court of this state, and being a court which proceeds according to the course of common law ; with a jurisdiction unlimited in point of amount ; keeping a record of its proceedings ; and possessing the power of fine and imprisonment) John Warren aged Sixty five years, resident in the City of Troy in said City who, being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath declare, that he served in the revolutionary war as follows:— in nearly eight years - in 1776 in a Massachusetts - Peter's company, attached to the New Hampshire regiment under Col. Stark - between 2 & 3 years, in the 15th Massachusetts regiment under Col. Bigelow - Then 3 or 4 years in 5th Massachusetts regiment, under Col. Rufus Putnam, in company under Capt. Smith. That his original declaration under the act of 18 March 1818, was dated 6th April 1818 - His pension certificate is No. 852.
AND I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18th day of March, 1818 ; and that I have not, since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner, disposed of my property, or any part thereof, with intent thereby so to diminish it, as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war," passed on the 18th of March, 1818 ; and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts, or debts, due to me ; nor have I any income other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed, and by me subscribed,
Sworn to and declared on the fifth day of July 1820 in open court Joseph D. Selden Clerk
John Warren
State of New York, City of Troy Rensselaer County
I, Joseph D. Selden Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas before the Mayors do hereby certify, that the foregoing oath & Affidavit and the schedule thereto annexed, are truly copied from the record of the said court ; and I do further certify, that it is the opinion of the said court, that the total amount, in value, of property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule, is Sixteen dollars and Twenty five cents. IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said court, on this 5th day of July 1820
Joseph D. Selden Clerk.

A true & perfect schedule of all the real & personal estate (miserly bedding & clothing excepted) of John Warren, a Pensioner of the United States - viz no real estate. Personal estate as follows - viz.
1 Silver Watch - - - - - $ 15. 00 Cash - - - - - 1. 25 16. 25
I am by occupation, a Farmer, unable to labour by reason of sickness, having been for two years last past, constantly under the care of Physician - I have a wife but no children living with me. Myself and wife are supported entirely by my children without any assistance on my part except the amount of my pension. And I do solemnly swear, that the foregoing is a true statement of my property, and the situation of myself & family.
Subscribed to me to this 5 th day of July 1820. in open Court.
John Warren
Joseph D. Selden Clerk

W L Warren 18 Jan 7. 1838 Pension Office
Washington City member of Congress
John. Office of Congress.
Mr.

Rev. John I. De Graff.
member of Congress
Washington City
Junior Office
18 Jan. 1838
U.S. House

Forster Spang Jan. 18. 18'38.
Sir.
About a year since I made application for a pension on behalf of my Mother Mrs. Elizabeth Warren, as the Widow of my father John Warren deceased who was a Rev. in the Revolutionary service. The Papers are now on file at Washington in possession of Col. Edwards in the pension office.
The papers show that my father was a Lieutenant in the Revolution - That my Mother married him in 1783 in July I think - And that my father continued in the service after the marriage - His veracity is strongly corroborated by the Chancellor Fly the principal man of our village.
When I forwarded the papers Col. Edwards stated in Reply that on a reference to papers in his office it appeared that the Regiment to which my father belonged was disbanded in June, one month previous to the marriage - which would of course defeat the application - because by the Law it is required

That the marriage should take place while the husband was in actual service. My Mother explained the fact by stating that altho the regiment might be disbanded in June, the officers and a portion of the men were retained in service for better safety until the coming November when the British evacuated New York, - On conversing with an old soldier, who was at Newburgh at the same time he stated that the regi- =ment or Troops were disbanded or rather permitted to go home holding themselves in readiness to meet the call to return if any should be made. The fact was I suppose the Troops were permitted to go home but the officers were retained till November; =less, when Genl Washington the March 2nd into N. York. I gave all the evidence I could to corroborate my Mother's Statement, but Mr. Cramer wrote me that on conversing with Col Edwards, he had doubts but (Mr Cramer that it would be all over. - The only fact Col Edwards, wants if I understand it, is the

past that my father was in service after his marriage. So far as my Mother's statement goes it is proved. His character for truth is so strongly corroborated I should think this sufficient. But in order to get all the evidence I can I want to show that my father actu- ally received pay up to November. His papers have been all lost or destroyed & it has oc- curred to me that possibly the evidence of the time he was discharged, or to which he was paid may be on some of the records in the War office. And my duty in writing to trouble you to examine the records for this purpose. My father belonged to the Massachusetts sets here, and the No of the Regiment & other particulars you can ascertain from his pension papers & the papers sent on my Mother's applica- tion which no doubt Col Edwards will oblige you with - And if on examination of the papers you could satisfy Col Edwards that there is proof enough it would very much relieve me in pro- curing further proof. After a lapse of so many years I shall feel myself under great obligations if your time will allow you attention to this matter & shall cheerfully compensate your trouble. I am with much regard Truly Yours J. M. Warren

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August , 1895.
Mr. Warren J. Davis, Marinette, Wisconsin.
Sir:
In response to your communication relative to the Revolutionary War Widow's Claim of Elizabeth Warren, Widow of John Warren, Ensign and Lieutenant, United States Army, you are advised that Elizabeth Warren's declaration was executed at Saratoga Springs Saratoga County, New York, on November 23rd, 1836; in which declaration she set forth that she was seventy-two years of age; that she was married to John Warren on the 29th day of July, 1783; that said John Warren died on the 24th day of December, 1824; and that she remained his widow.
There is no evidence on file as to the date and place of birth of John Warren; as to his residence at the time of his enlistment; or as to the date and place of birth or of death of Elizabeth Warren. It is, however, probable, from the evidence on file, that the soldier was a native of the Colony of Massachusetts, and that his widow was a native of New York.

In a letter dated at Saratoga Springs, on May 8th, 1837, William L. F. Warren refers to soldier's widow as his mother; and in a letter dated at Newburgh, New York, on May 4th, 1838, Aaron Belknap advises Joel Poinsett, Secretary of War, of the fact of the death of Elizabeth Warren and that she died prior to the date of the allowance of her claim, which was on February 13, 1838.
This, in addition to the information furnished you on May 20th, 1895, is all the data contained in the pension papers germane to the matters referred to in your letter.
Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN CONGRESS ASSEMBLED
To John Warren Gentleman
Greeting. We, Reposing special trust
confidence in your Patriotism, Valour, Conduct, and Fidelity, DO by these presents constitute and appoint you, to
Ensign in the fifth Massachusetts Regiment in the Army of the United States, to take rank as such from the 26 day
November 1779. You are therefore carefully and diligently to discharge the duty of a
strictly charge and require all Officers and Soldiers, under your command, to be obedient to your orders, as
And you are to observe and follow such orders and directions, from time to time, as you shall receive from this, or a future Congress of the United States, or Committee of Congress for that purpose appointed, a Committee of the States, or Commander in chief for the time being of the Army of the United States, or any other your Superior Officer, according to the rules and discipline of War, in pursuance of the trust reposed in you. This Commission to continue in force until revoked by this, or a future Congress, the Committee of Congress forementioned, or a Committee of the States.
Entered in the War Office and examined by the Board
Witness His Excellency Thomas Mifflin Esq. President of the Congress of the United States of America, at Philadelphia the 27th day of August 1781, and in the sixth Year of our Independence.
Thos Mifflin President
Attest A. H. Carlton Secretary of the Board of War

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN Congress ASSEMBLED
To John Warren Gentleman  Greeting.
We Reposing special trust and confidence in your Patriotism, Valour, Conduct and Fidelity, DO by these presents constitute and appoint you, to be a Lieutenant in the Massachusetts line
_____ in the Army of the United States, to take rank as such _____ from the nine tenth day of May 1782 You are therefore, carefully and diligently to discharge the duty of a Lieutenant by doing and performing all manner of things therein belonging. And we do strictly charge and require all Officers and Soldiers, under your command, to be obedient to your orders, as Lieutenant . — And you are to observe and follow such orders and directions, from time to time as you shall receive from this, or a future Congress of the United States, or Committee of Congress for that purpose appointed, a Committee of the States, or Commander in chief for the time being of the Army of the United States, or any other your superior Officer, according to the rules and discipline of War, in pursuance of the trust reposed in you. This Commission to continue in force until revoked by this, or a future Congress, the Committee of Congress before mentioned, or a Committee of the States.
Witness His Excellency Elias Boudinot Esq President of the Congress of the United States of America at Philadelphia — the fifth day of November A.D. 1782 and in the Seventh Year of our Independence.
By Order of Congress Lincoln Secretary at War.

Elizabeth Warren widow of Lieut. Jn. Warren.
N. York case act 4 July 1836 3 d section -
See letter to Hon. D.
Parlin Jan. 3. 1837 same June 9. 1837

DAVIS & HOLMES COMPANY, LUMBERMEN,
WARREN J. DAVIS, PRESIDENT. GUY W. HOLMES, VICE-PRESIDENT. REUBEN C. MERRYMAN, TREASURER. CHARLES S. BROWN, SECRETARY.
MARINETTE, Wis., June 23, 1895.
Hon., William Lochren, Pension Commissioner, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:- I am in receipt of your favor of the 13th inst., relative to the pension papers of John Warren and Elizabeth Warren and regret that the rules of your office prohibit the furnishing of copies of such papers. I do not want them for any other purpose than to complete a family record, for my own individual use. There are some missing links in my record, which I believe the original applications applications of the parties named, will disclose; for instance, dates and place of birth, marriage etc. Will you kindly give me any data that there may be in the applications on these subjects.
Am afraid I am troubling you a good deal in this matter, but have spent a good deal of time and money in the preparation and collection of family records and am very anxious to make them complete and accurate. I will be glad to pay any expense there may be incurred in your office, in the matter in hand.
Yours truly,
Warren J. Davis
AUG 3 1895

Hon. William Leobach,
Pension Commissioner,
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:- I am in receipt of your favor of the 15th inst. relative to the pension papers of John Warren and Elizabeth Warren and regret that the rules of your office prohibit the furnishing of copies of such papers. I do not want them for any other purpose than to complete a family record, for my own individual use. There are some missing links in my record, which I believe the original xxxxxxxxxx applications of the parties named, will disclose; for instance, dates and place of birth, marriage etc. Will you kindly give me any data that there may be in the applications on these subjects.
Am afraid I am troubling you a good deal in this matter, but have spent a good deal of time and money in the preparation and collection of family records and am very anxious to make them complete and accurate. I will be glad to pay any expense there may be incurred in your office, in the matter in hand.
Yours truly,
William Warren

J. C. R. LAW DIVISION McC
40 Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.
U. S. LAW AUG 2 1895 P. RECEIVED. D.
July 8, 1895.
Mr. Warren J. Davis, Marinette, Wisconsin.
Sir:
In response to your letter of the 23rd ultimo, herewith returned, you are advised that, while for the reasons stated in my letter of the 13th ultimo, copies of affidavits on file in the claim cannot be furnished, this Bureau has no objection to furnishing you with such an abstract of any evidence which may be on file as would tend to assist you in completing your family record. If you will return your letter with an endorsement showing the war during which, and the letter of the company and number or name of the regiment in which, the John Warren therein referred to served, you will be further advised in the premises.
Very respectfully,
D. J. Murphy
Acting Commissioner.

O. W. & N. Division,
F.S.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
WASHINGTON, D. C.,
June 18, 1895.
Sir:
Replying to your communication of the 28th. ult., you are advised that the rules of this Bureau prohibit the furnishing of copies of the pension papers of Revolutionary soldiers.
A tracing of the signature of John Warren and of his widow is herewith enclosed as requested.
Very respectfully,
Mr. Warren J. Davis, Marinette, Wis.
Commissioner.

DAVIS & HOLMES COMPANY, LUMBERMEN,
WARREN J. DAVIS, PRESIDENT. GUY W. HOLMES, VICE-PRESIDENT. REUBEN C. MERRYMAN, TREASURER. CHARLES S. BROWN, SECRETARY.
MARINETTE, WIS.,
25875 May 26 1895
Hon. W m Lochren, Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir: Referring to your favor of the 20 th inst, containing a statement of the military history of John Warren a soldier of the Revolutionary War , would say, that I would like to secure a certified copy of his and his widow's <Elizabeth> declaration or application for a pension, with a tracing of their signatures. Can you furnish these papers and signatures? I will be glad to remit any charge there may be, upon receiving advice of the amount.
Yours very truly Warren J. Davis.

DAVIS & HOLMES COMPANY JUMPERMAN MARINETTE, WIS.
OLD WAR & NAVY JUN 5 1895 FILES,
U.S. PENSION OFFICE JUN 3 1895
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for Pension. declaration of application of John Warren and Elizabeth Warren any other date of a personal nature embodied in the affidavit.
 1. Date of application of Elizabeth Warren for pension.  2. Date and place of birth of Elizabeth Warren.  3. Date and place of death of Elizabeth Warren.  4. Date and place of birth of John Warren at time of enlistment.  5. Residence of John Warren at time of enlistment. (Dec. 24, 1822 or Jan. 1, 1823)  6. Date and place of death of John Warren.  7. Date and place of birth of John Warren. 
Elizabeth, his wife, and the records in your office, should disclose the following information, which the application of John Warren and his wife, in my possession, I am making the following evidence now in my possession, I am making the following evidence now in my possession, I am making the following evidence now in my possession.
To confirm evidence now in my possession, I am making the following evidence now in my possession, I am making the following evidence now in my possession. He was married July 20, 1785, was also a pensioner. He died December 24, 1823 or 1824. His widow, Elizabeth, to whom he was married July 20, 1785, was also a pensioner. He died December 24, 1823 or 1824. His widow, Elizabeth, to whom he was married July 20, 1785, was also a pensioner. He died December 24, 1823 or 1824. His widow, Elizabeth, to whom he was married July 20, 1785, was also a pensioner.
Yours truly W. H. C. [Signature]

DAVIS & HOLMES COMPANY,
LUMBERMEN,
WARREN J. DAVIS, PRESIDENT. GUY W. HOLMES, VICE-PRESIDENT. REUBEN C. MERRYMAN, TREASURER. CHARLES S. BROWN, SECRETARY.
MARINETTE, Wis., July 27, 1895.
Hon., D. I. Murphy, Acting Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:- Replying to your favor of the 8th inst., hereto attached, would state, that the John Warren referred to was a soldier of the Revolutionary War, being Sergeant 15th Massachusetts Regiment May 15th 1777; Ensign November 26th 1779; transferred to 5th Massachusetts Regiment January 1st 1781; Lieutenant May 19th 1782 and served to June 1783. The date of his application for pension was April 6, 1818. Residence at date of application was Saratoga N.Y. He died December 24, 1823 or 1824. His widow, Elizabeth, to whom he was married July 29, 1783, was also a pensioner.
To confirm evidence now in my possession, I am seeking the following information, which the application of John Warren and Elizabeth, his wife, and the records in your office, should disclose viz;
1. Date and place of birth of John Warren. 2. Date and place of death of John Warren. (Dec. 24, 1823 or 1824 ) 3. Residence of John Warren at time of enlistment. 4. Date and place of birth of Elizabeth Warren. 5. Date and place of death of Elizabeth Warren. 6. Date of application of Elizabeth Warren for pension. 7. Any other data of a personal nature embodied in the affidavits, declaration or application of John Warren and Elizabeth Warren for Pension.
Yours very truly,
A handwritten signature in cursive, reading "Warren J. Davis", written in dark ink on the line following the closing.

New York Migration sent to Hon. James Mallory Troy, N.Y. July 15. 1820
Sept 1818
FREE
John C. Calhoun Secretary of War Washington

Troy 7 th July, 1820
Sir
I enclose schedules of prop- erty, made under the law of 1 st May 1820, by three Revolutionary pensioners of the U. States. viz.
  Ebenezer Wilson —  nr. 2,527     John Warren —  " 852     Stanley Thompson —  " 8,670  Sent back for pen n diseas d & age July 15  
I am Respectfully &c.
D. M c awry
  Hon. John C. Calhoun  }    Secy of War    Washington  

NY. add. pbb 4 July '36
Me
Rev. Dudley Farlin
Mum. of George
Washington City
Hn. D. Farlin HAR

Gen. Sprangi Dec. 17. 1836
Mr Farlin
Sir,
I recd yours some days since But In consequence of absence could not answer till now. The Difficulty stated By Col. Edwards I cannot Explain further than is Explained in the inclosed affidavit - This affidavit shows that the Marriage took place Whilst Father was in the service & Connected with the army - There is ample proof That Mother is a credible person Her affidavit must be taken as True until the contrary appears. Now If the Regiment to Which father belonged was discharged in June (Which I dont know) And altho the marriage did not take place till July It does not follow That Mothers affidavit is incorrect - because the Regiment may have been discharged & still my father retained. It is likely they dismissed the Officers generally That my father was retained for some other service Especially as he was Promoted Capt. If Mothers affidavit is true it must be so - The circumstances are such she could not be mistaken - he was married in uniform & Instead of staying with her he divided his time with her & other camp - I think Col. Edwards will perceive on reflection The Evidence is decidedly in favor of my Mothers claim - The circumstances she relates corroborates it - besides her credibility is amply supported And If it is necessary, The Chancellor of the State & Judge Corwan one of the Justices of the Supreme Court have voluntarily offered certificates of her Credibility & Integrity - If this certificate is necessary I will send it - They are both well acquainted with her - I wish You would examine my fathers pension papers They may throw some light -
I am Truly Yours
WM. S. MASTON
P.S. Col. Edwards has got on the other pensioners the Evidence that Judge Mawson is a Judge of our Courts. It is not necessary to get the Clerks certificates again.

State of New York
Far into gaps: } John Whitehead being duly sworn says That he is Seventy seven Years of age - That he was a Soldier of the Revolutionary army & in 1783 was a private in Capt. Henry Paul Kings Company in Col. Philip Van Cortlandt Regiment - The Regiment in the Winter of 1782 & 1783 lay in Winter quarters under Snake hill near Newburgh in said State. & lay there until June 1783 when said Regiment was Discharged but the Troops continued on furlough until November 1783 when they were finally discharged & General Washington on the 25 th Nov. 1783 took possession of New York - Deponent understood at the time that the object in furloughing the Troops or continuing them on furlough was to retain them until something about the peace was Ratified, which was not effected until Nov: =ember 1783 - At any rate deponent knows that for some reason the Troops were continued on furlough till November after they were dis- =charged - Deponent will know Capt. John War- =ren (then a Lieutenant) - said John was also stationed at Snake hill - Deponent knows he was married that Year (1783) to Elizabeth Warren who is now his widow - Deponent was not pres- ent at the marriage but was at their house after the marriage a number of times between June & November of that Year. Deponent cannot say from personal knowledge, as to Capt. John Warren

service after his marriage. But he knows that none of the Troops then stationed were at the time considered finally discharged until Nov. 1783 altho the regiments were disbanded on 9 th June 1783. Deponent does not know particularly what it was which wanted ratification between the two Governments But he understood that there were some Exchange of propositions or papers from the United States to Great Britain which occasioned the delay in the discharge of the Troops.
I certify that on the 8 th Day of May 1837, John Whitehead was duly sworn before me to the above deposition. I further certify that the said John Whitehead is a person entitled to implicit credit. The said John subscribed the same by making his mark, his eye right being defective by reason of age -
His John X Whitehead mark
Yrs affec. Son Jeddy of Gen. Em. Pleas

Census March 29
Eliz Warren B.C.
Day Care 36
Rejected
Geo H. ... me
Rev. J. B. Gane Pension Office Washington D.C.

Waukesha Sept. 25 th 1837 Col. Brown
Dear Sir - Having heard nothing from you in regard to the papers of Mrs. Elizabeth Brown since death I take the liberty to request that you will inform me what dispo- sition you have made of them I suppose? The widow of Genl. Both- rap & Mrs. D. - with the accompanying certificates of Chancellor Walworth Mr Brown - he must be satisfactory Mrs. Brown is very positive as to Capt. Brown's being continued after the disbanding of the Regt. that he was actually in service when and after marriage) very respectfully yours &c D. Farlin

let for Elizabeth Waner's papers for H. D. Martin H. R.

Washington March 2. 1837. Received of the Commission of Pensions, the papers of Elizabeth Warren, widow of Lieut. John Warren, in support of her claim under the 3 d section of the act of July 4. 1836, which I promise to return.
Judley Forbin

1 March
Dear Mr Harlin misses papers Mrs Clara E. Warner's papers.
I saw
Edward Primo's papers J.H.G.
Yours H. D. Harlin H. D.

Admiral Drey
March 1 st 1837
Will Col Edward be so good as to send me the paper relating to the application of Mrs Elizabeth Drey widow of the late John Drey I oblige yours &c
D. Farber

War Department,
Pension Office,
Dec. 6: 1836.
Sir,
I have the honor to return you the letter of Mr. Warren, and in reply to inform you that there is not a Captain's commission filed with his late father's papers as he supposes; nor do the records of service show that grade under a commission which is necessary to entitle his mother to a pension for service in that grade. It is not necessary to examine the question of the Brant appointment, as it would not affect the amount of the allowance under the Act of 4 th July 1836; but it may be proper to inform you that he was returned, in 1774, as a Lieutenant, and received a Lieutenant's bounty land.
The only witness to the date of the marriage, does not state whether he has been able to ascertain the date of the marriage by any record or well established event on his own mind; or relies upon the force of memory alone. The date of the marriage approximates so nearly the period assigned by Congress for the termination of the war, that it is indispensable it should be fixed and established by the most satisfactory evidence.
As

As marriage is so generally a subject of entry on Town, Church, and family records, it should distinctly appear that there is no such record before partial testi- mony, consistently with the rules of evidence, can be rec- d, as satisfactory, in establishing its date.
The papers are retained on our files.
I have the honor to be,
very respectfully,
(Yr. M. O. B.)
J. L. Edward)
Hon. Dudley Farlin,
House of Representatives.

State of New York } Saratoga County } I hereby certify that on making the declaration hereto annexed John Warren therein named produced to me a Commis- -sion from Congress appointing him an Ensign in the fifth Massachusetts Regiment in the army of the United States as stated in his declaration hereto annexed Signed by Thomas M c Lean President of Congress at Philadelphia the twenty seventh day of August 1781 & by Joseph Carleton Secretary of the board of War & under the seal of the War Office & also a Commission from Congress appointing him a Lieutenant in the Massachusetts line in the army of the United States as stated in his dec- -laration hereto annexed Signed by Elias Bou- -dnot President of Congress on the fifth day of November 1782 at Philadelphia & by B. Lincoln Secretary at War & under the seal of the War Office from which I have my personal acquaintance with the said John Warren I am Satisfied that he served as an officer in the Revolutionary War against the common Enemy & have no doubt that his said Declaration is in all Respects true -
The said Commissions referred to are transmitted herewith -
Given under my hand the 14 th day of April 1818 -
Pelham Child
To Hon. J. C. Calhoun Secretary of War

I William Stillwell Clerk of the court of Common pleas in & for the County of Saratoga do certify that Salomon Child Esquire is one of the Judges of the Court of Common pleas in & for the County of Saratoga & that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Salomon & know the name of the said Salomon subscribed to the within declaration & Certifi- cate to be the proper hand writing of the said Salomon In Witness whereof I have caused the seal of the said County to be affixed hereunto this fourteenth day of April in the Year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & Eighteen -
W m Stillwell Clerk

State of New York
Shenango No. 1. On this 17 th day of December 1836 personally appeared before Thomas J. Marvin Esq. one of the Judges of the County Court of said County Elizabeth Warren Widow & Relict of Captain John Warren deceased who being first duly sworn according to Law - Doth Depose & say that there is no family Record of her marriage with the said John Warren in existence to her knowledge - soon after her marriage the said John made an Entry in a common place Book of the time of the marriage accompanied with some extracts of poetry which deponent remembers of seeing at the time - But she does not know where the Book now is nor whether it is in existence - Since that time the family has been burnt out & the child -ren have intermarried & become scattered For what way the papers of the said John have been missing she does not know - But she does know that none of his old papers are now to be found - Deponent says she believes she is not mistaken as to the time that her marriage did take place in July 1783. Altho it is possible she might misremember the month. She knows the said John was connected with the army at the time - That he was married in his Military uniform And deponent remembers requesting the said John to be married in an ordinary dress & that he declined because he was still in the service - She also remembers that it was talked between them of deferring the marriage until the said John was dis- =charged & that it was concluded not to defer it - And after the marriage the said John did not spend his time with deponent on ac- count of the service But would spend several days with deponent then be absent several days - Deponent does not know whether his Reg:

= inuit was discharged in June or not - If it was she thinks the said John must have been retained & assigned to some other duty or com- = mand - She has heard the said John say that he was promoted a Captain -
In witness whereof she has hereunto set her hand the day & year above written before me -
Elizabeth Warren
Thos. Mann; Judge of Prov. Com. Pleas.

Hoosier Rep
Febr 7. 1828
J L Edwards Esq
Secy in
I am strongly disposed to think that on reference to the Pay Rolls it will be discovered that Lt Warren of the Revolutionary army was paid and was in service until after his marriage. His estimable widow is so positive on that ground that I must beg of you to receive her Claims, and be pleased to report upon it as early as convenient I am yours Resp John D. Pepp

Hon. D. Farlin

Tarotoga Springs Feb. 24. 1837.
I certify that I am well ac- quainted with Mrs Elizabeth Warren of this Village who is, as I am informed an applicant for a pension as the widow of John Warren deceased under the act of Congress approved July 4 1836. And that she is a person of un- questionable veracity her statements are entitled to implicit credit.
R. Hyde & [blank] the undersigned of the stock of Radford
I certify that I have been well acquainted with the above named Mrs Elizabeth Warren for about twenty five years that she is a person of the most unquestionable veracity & that her statements are entitled to implicit credit
Dudley Folsom

DAVIS & HOLMES COMPANY, LUMBERMEN,
WARREN J. DAVIS, PRESIDENT. GUY W. HOLMES, VICE-PRESIDENT. REUBEN C. MERRYMAN, TREASURER. CHARLES S. BROWN, SECRETARY.
MARINETTE, WIS.,
May
1895
Hon. Commissioner of Pensions Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir: I would like to secure the military record of John Warren who was born in Brookfield, Mass in 1753 (Dec.). At the age of 19 he joined the Continental Army and participated in its struggles until 1783. He was engaged in several of the most important battles of the war and received particular commendation for his bravery at Bunker Hill & Monmouth. He went with the Massachusetts Line to the encampment at New Windsor, N.Y. and subsequently lived at Newburgh, N.Y. and Saratoga Springs where he died Dec. 25. 1823.
The Secretary of the Massachusetts Society of the Cincinnati advises me that John Warren was a pensioner in New York in 1820, and I am desirous of knowing whether

DAVIS & HOLMES COMPANY,
LUMBERMEN,
WARREN J. DAVIS, PRESIDENT. GUY W. HOLMES, VICE-PRESIDENT. REUBEN G. MERRYMAN, TREASURER. CHARLES S. BROWN, SECRETARY.
MARINETTE, WIS.,
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This Pensioner and the man I have described are one and the same person, which fact your records will probably disclose.
Inclosed please find self addressed, stamped envelope for reply.
Yours truly Warren J. Davis.

Ray WIDOW, &c.
File No. 25875
Elizabeth Warren
Widow of
John Warren
Saint Rev War
Act: July 4 th 1836
Index:—Vol. W , Page 313
[Arrangement of 1870.]

May 20/95 H.S.S. Warren J. Davis, Marinette, Wis. M c E. June 13/95 Letter & Warren J. Davis, Marinette, Wis. Aug. 8/95 - W. J. S. Davis, Marinette, Wis. as jur enclosed copy. age  Law Dr 
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Saratoga Springs
May 8 th 1837.
Hon. Secretary of War.
Sir.
An application was made during the last Session of Congress for a pension in behalf of Mrs Elizabeth Warren Widow of Capt. John Warren deceased. The papers were entrusted to Messrs John Cram & Dudley Farlin Members from Saratoga & Warren Counties. From the papers it appeared that she was married in July before her Ten of Service Expired. But a doubt was created in consequence of the fact that the Regiment was discharged or disbanded in June previ- = ous - a supplemental affidavit of the Widow was sent stating in substance that altho the Regiment was disbanded in June Capt. War- = ren was for some reason retained in the Service until some months after the War's = raise - I now enclose an additional affi- = davit of Mr John Whitehead, who was a Rev- = olutionary Soldier I well knew Capt. Warren was Stationed at Snake Hill near Newburgh Mr Whitehead states the same fact that altho the army was disbanded in June The Soldiers were not finally discharged

from Service until Nov r . evening -
Mrs Warrens Credibility is so well attested - By the Pastor of the village, The Post Master & other officers of the village & By the Certificate of the Chancellor of the State, To all of whom she is well known & now corroborated by the facts stated by Mr Whitehead, It would seem That she could not be mistaken - She was also personally known to Mr Farlin who informed me he had added his own certificate as to her Credibility -
As Mrs Farlin & I have understood better the course the application has taken I should have sent them the enclosed affidavit But they reside some distance from me & are both at present as I learn from home - I have therefore to avoid any delay taken the liberty to enclose the same direct to the Department - Should Mrs Warrens application prove successful it would be very gratifying to her to learn the result as soon as the various important pressing business of the Department will permit.
I am with much respect, Yours &c.
Wm S. S. Warren