Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 30,185, Elias Warner, Mass.

SERVICE
Warner, Elias
NUMBER
S. 30.185.
Mass.
CONTENTS

Let to P.W. Apr. 12. 1837, encls. smj Copies of papers
Paid at the Treasury under the Act of Apr. 1838 for 4 March to 13. Apr. 1823 Age Notified 31 Jan. 1845
Marble
1696 Cag 17 Apr 1812 Apr 22 Mar 1817 Sup.
15957 Massachusetts
Elias Warner of Marlinton the State of Virginia who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Park of the Regt commanded by Col. Tupper in the Mass line for 2 years
Call
Inscribed on the Roll of Massachusetts at the rate of 50 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 11 th day of Aug 1833 and sent Hon. John Harris Minister Mass
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $100.00 Semi-annual allowance ending Sept. „ 40.00 $200.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by William Adams Clerk Book E Vol. 2 Page 93

DECLARATION, in order to secure the benefit of the Act of Congress, passed June 7, 1832.
COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS.
COUNTY OF WORCESTER, ss.
ON this Fourth
day of Sep r
in the year of our Lord, eighteen hundred and thirty two
personally appeared in open Court, before Nathaniel Paine Judge of Probate for the County of Worcester now sitting Elias Warner a resident of Harvard in the County of Worcester and Commonwealth of Massachusetts, aged sixty eight years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7th 1832.
THAT he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated.
I was born in Harvard aforesaid in the year 1764 and enlisted into the service of the United States under the Continental as a private in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Tiffey in the Massachusetts Line of the Continental Troops. I served the term of as a private until I was honorably discharged after having served as I recollect, two years and nine months.
Under the Law of 1818 my name was placed on the pension roll and I received a pension certificate dated March 22 d 1819 but my name has since I have been informed been struck from the Pension roll. The discharge which I received on leaving the Army was forwarded to the War department where I suppose the same now to be. I resided in Harvard when I made my former application for a Pension & have resided there ever since.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
Before Nathaniel Paine Judge of Probate for the County of Worcester
Elias Warner

We _____ a Clergyman residing in the _____ and residing in _____ hereby certify that we are well acquainted with _____ who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be _____ years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and we concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above mentioned applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the court further certifies, that it appears to them that _____ who signed the preceding certificate, is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that _____ who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I Theophilus Wheeler Register , Clerk of the Court of Probate do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Elias Warner for a pension. IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this fourth day of September in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and thirty three .
Worcester ss Commonwealth of Massachusetts I Theophilus Wheeler Register of the Court of Probate for the County of Worcester do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Elias Warner for a Pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court this second day of August in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and thirty three — Theoph: Wheeler Reg of said Court
Elias Warner's Application

Jan. 24, 1907.
Mrs. Ella N. Taylor, Geneseo, Illinois.
Madam:
In reply to your letter dated the 10th instant and received in this Bureau on the 14th, you are advised that a careful examination of the papers in the claim of Elias Warner, Survivor's File #30,185, fails to show any information other than that furnished you under date of May 8, 1903. The soldier did not state his age at date of first application, but in a subsequent declaration, September 4, 1832, stated that he was "sixty-eight years of age, born in Harvard in 1764."
For the date of his death, last payment of pension, and name of person to whom said payment was made, apply to the Auditor for the Interior Department, Treasury Department, citing the following data: "Certificate #15,951, issued August 10, 1833, under the Act of June 7, 1832, at the Massachusetts Agency.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.

8,471 Massachusetts. 4
Elias Warner,
of Harvard, in the state of Massach ts who was a private in the regiment commanded by Colonel Tupper, of the Massachusetts line, for the term of two years.
Inscribed on the Roll of Massachusetts - at the rate of Eight Dollars per month, to commence on the 13, of April, 1818.
Certificate of Pension issued the 22. of March, 1819 and sent to John Davis, Judge, Boston, Massachusetts.
Arrears to 4th of March, 1819. 85.83
Semi-ann. all'ce ending 4. Sept. 48 "
10 mo. \left. \begin{matrix} 18 \\ 30 \end{matrix} \right\} 1819. \} 133.83
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Revolutionary claim, } Act 18th March, 1818. }

No 358
Elias Warner P1 to P3 Tappers Map! to Pug
Howard, Mass. 44 2 years.
13. April, 1818.
Judge Adm. Tread as circumstance wanted

Elias Warner of Hanover in the County of Worcester and Commonwealth of Massachusetts aged fifty three years, do testify and say, that I enlisted into the service of the United States, in the Revolutionary War, in the month of March A.D. 1781 for the term of three years, that I was enrolled in Capt. Perkins Company, and Col. Judson's Regiment, being the tenth Regiment in the Massachusetts Line, that I was transferred into Capt. Smith Company in Col. Jackson's Regiment, being the eighth Regiment, that I was then transferred into Capt. Gossard's Company in Col. Graton's Regiment, being the third Regiment in said Massachusetts Line. That I continued in the service until the twenty third day of December A.D. 1783, and was then honorably discharged from the service, which discharge is herewith exhibited. — I am now in reduced circumstances and in need of support from my Country Elias Warner
Massachusetts District ss. Boston 13. April 1818.
Sworn to before me
W. D. Avery, Dist. Judge Mass. Dist.

1819-29-11a MASSACHUSETTS DISTRICT, ss.
1 March — 1819.
I AM satisfied that the above named, Elias Warner by reason of his reduced circumstances in life, is in need of assistance from his Country for support.
J. D. Dyer { District Judge U. S. { Massachusetts Dist.
TO THE SECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR.

MASSACHUSETTS DISTRICT, ss.
Boston June 12 A. D. 1818
IT appearing to my satisfaction, that Ebenezer Warner subscriber to the annexed declaration, sworn to before me, did serve in the revolutionary war against the common enemy, as stated in said declaration, I now transmit the testimony in the case, with the proceedings had thereon, to the Secretary of the department of war, pursuant to the directions of the Act entitled "An Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war;" the testimony and proceedings in the premises being the declaration aforesaid, with the accompanying documents marked A together with this certificate.
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the District Court of the United States for this District to be hereunto affixed.
M c David
} Judge of the District Court U. S. Massachusetts District.

Elias Warner.
Payable semi-annually. The first payment on this Certificate will be made on the 4th of September , next, in Massachusetts , at the Branch Bank of the United States, Boston.
Recorded

War Department.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I CERTIFY that, in conformity with the Law of the United States, of the 18th of March, 1818, Elias Warner, of Harvard, Massachus ts late a private ————— in the Army of the Revolution, is inscribed on the Pension List, Roll of the Massachusetts ————— Agency, at the rate of eight  1 dollars per month, to commence on the thirteenth day of April , ————— one thousand eight hundred and eighteen .
GIVEN at the War Office of the United States, this twenty second day of March , — one thousand eight hundred and nineteen.
L. Callow
Secretary of War.

... Connecticut ... has ever been a ... that a public debt is a ... The origin and his- ... calumny, and others ... ed with it, must be given to public. On the 28th of August, 1789, during first session of Congress, a petition n a small number of public cred- s, in the state of Pennsylvania, was ented to the House of Represent- s; from which the following ex- are made. Your memorialists with the utmost ence, beg leave to represent, that credit is the vital spark of modern poli- -For the history of the world demon- s, that whatever may be the extent of ory, the degree of fertility of soil, un- faith of national engagements is placed asis inviolable and immutable , the ad- ges of nature will be lost in the uni- ity of their enjoyment, and govern- will afford no encouragement to in- or protection to virtue; but while it tes with its power, must corrupt by its ple : The domestic experience of A- a, renders it unnecessary indeed, to re the annals of ancient or contempo- nations, in order to collect this saluta- on; and there is only wanting an ex- of that wisdom which it inculcates, avert her calamity into a blessing and the remembrance of what has been he instrument of securing what may e acquired. The decay of public credit, dering licentiousness and anarchy, has breatened the perversion of all that was in her exertions and the waste of all that valuable in her success. To avert a r danger, the most unequivocal dem- ations of an intention to restore the and purity of her name , is naturally ex- d from the guardians of the public in- and honor, and your memorialists fervently pray them to consider, that assination in a business of so delicate a e may be as fatal as a defect of pow- r want of disposition to be just." "Immediately to pay off public debt, principal and interest, if practicable, would be greatly incon- nt and is certainly unnecessary; for ample of those nations, who enjoy the commercial reputation has evinced that hament appropriation for the punctual nt of the interest, will enable the public or to enjoy by the facility of a transfer, all wantages of the principal, without injur- the credit of the country or straining sources. " Your memorialists in addition to these rations, beg leave respectfully to sug- hat it has been the deliberate opinion e of the most enlightened statesman, certain amount of FUNDED DEBT THE DEBT OF THE UNIT-
ny. "Resolved, that the Secretary of the Treasury be directed to prepare a plan for that purpose and to report the same to this house at its next meeting."
The following order was at the same time passed:
"Ordered, that the Secretary of the Treasury be directed to apply to the Su- preme Executives of the several States, for statements of their public debts; of the funds provided for the payment in whole or in part of the principal and interest thereof; and the amount of the Loan Of- fice certificates, or other public securities of the United States, in the state treasuries respectively; and that he report to the house such of the said documents, as he may obtain at the next session of Con- gress."
It does not appear, that this order was passed on the suggestion of the committee though circumstances exist which render the fact probable; it was evidently the object of the order, to obtain information, whereon to found measures for assuming the state debts .—The writer of these remarks had an indistinct impression, that Mr. Madison was once in favor of the as- sumption, but this is not asserted for truth: The facts, if true, must be known to many gentlemen, and how- ever it may be, it ought to be commu- nicated to the public.
On the 9th January, 1790, Mr. Ham- ilton, then Secretary of the Treasury, made a report in obedience to the Resolutions of the house which con- tained the following observations.
"Persuaded as the Secretary is, that the proper funding of the PRESENT DEBT, will render it a national blessing , yet he is so far from acceding to the position in the lati- tude in which it is sometimes laid down, "that public debts are public benefits"— a position inviting to prodigality and liable to dangerous abuse ; that he ardently wishes to see it incorporated as a fundamental max- im , THAT THE CREATION OF DEBT SHOULD ALWAYS BE ACCOMPANIED WITH THE MEANS OF EXTINGUISHMENT. This he regards as the true secret, for ren- dering public credit immortal; and he presumes it is difficult to conceive a situa- tion, in which there may not be an ad- herence to the maxim, at least he feels an un- feigned solicitude, that it may be attempted by the United States, and that they may com- mence their measures for the establishment of credit with the observance of it. "
It is believed that the archives of our government may be in vain search- ed, for any other document, than this report, which the ingenuity of malice itself can pervert in support of the declaration, that it has been "a feder- al axiom, that a public debt is a public blessing." If any other authority is known let it be published.
—M'Kean and Mr. M'Clen- achan on the follow- ing pen of con-
litical vicissitudes of their own im- mediate state," who were fatigued after a long voyage on "the tempestuous sea of liberty," ought not to be reproach- ed with a love of temporary repose: Surely the federal errors of Governor M'Kean ought now to be forgotten; now the wind of popularity was veer- ed and tranquillity appears no less irk- some than the "calm of despotism;" —having enjoyed the "facility of a transfer," he appears sufficiently zeal- ous to burst the "lilliputian ties," he formerly contributed to strength- en, and to embark in pursuit of pleasure amidst the whirlpool of new agita- tions.
The axioms of the true federalists , are however to be found in the records and public acts of the administration which they supported;—these speak a language very different from that of Messrs. M'Kean, M'Clenachan and Dallas.
The federalists maintained the pro- position offered by Mr. Madison "that an adequate provision for the support of public credit, is a matter of high importance to the national honor and prosperity ;" they concurred in the precisely equivalent opinion of Mr. Hamilton, "that the proper funding of the public debt, would render it a na- tional blessing;" they believed that the benefits of a stable provision for the existing debt, would not be confined to the creditors , but would be experienced by the nation at large ;—that the debts of States contracted for the support of the revolutionary War , ought to be assumed, in justice to the States and their Creditors , and also to prevent a rivalship of Interests and the oppression of industry, by conflicting systems of finance:—They however disavowed the imputed dogma "that public debts are public benefits;" they expressly declared it "a position inviting to prodigality and liable to dangerous abuse," and that they ardently wished to see it incorporated as a fundament- al maxim , "that the creation of debt should always be accompanied with the means of extinguishment."
Nor was the expression of this wish, a political artifice, calculated to amuse and deceive the people:—a Sinking Fund, was actually established, coeval with the Funding system itself and this Fund has been continually in- creasing:—Though, during nearly the whole period of the federal adminis- tration, the human race were afflicted with a war, peculiar in its nature, and dreadful in its effects, which prostrated ancient and powerful nations, and en- dangered the fabric of Society through the civilized world, though foreign dis- turbances and internal disturbances, ex- posed the government to be-

By the HONOURABLE MAJOR-GENERAL K N O X, Commanding the AMERICA FORCES on Hudson's River.
This is to certify that John Thos. Stafford in the Third  Artillery Regiment, being inlisted for Three Years, is hereby honourably DISCHARGED from the Service of the United States.
Given in the State of New-York,
the twelfth  Third Day of
December.
1783.
Knox
By the General's Command
A
REGISTERED in the Books of the Regiment
John Thos. Stafford

TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
SECOND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE,
January 17 th , 1845.
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An Act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," and the third section of the Act of August 23, 1842, extending the time within which pensioners may receive their pensions from the pension agents, Elias Warner's child n ————— a Pensioner on the Roll of the Massachusetts ————— Agency, at the rate of Eighty ————— Dollars and ————— Cents per annum, under the law of the 7 th June 1832, has been paid at this Department, from the 4 th of March 1843, to the 13 th April 1843.
Respectfully, yours,
William L. G. Darling
Comptroller.
To the COMMISSIONER OF PENSIONS,
Present.

W629 April 4 1837. Penguin Office Boulton W.B. P. March 27.
Secretary of War
Washington City Elias Wamer Map 700 D.C. Oct 1832
15951

Hawara March 27, 1837
To the Secy. of war
Sir in order to obtain a gratuity from the State of Massachusetts (of $50.00) I wish to get the copies of all the papers whereby I obtained my pension at the war office of the U. States, under the act of 1832 by sending them you will confer a great favor on
Your Obedt Servant
Elias Warner

Elias Warner Bristol 2 years
David Horenton Wey
J. G. Edwards
Judson H. H. Office
J Davis Horenton Mass
Washington City D.C.
Old name
FREE

Geneseo - Illinois - Jan. 10th 1907, O.M. & M. Commissioner of Pensions - Dear Sir:
May 8th 1903 - E. S. Ware - Then Commissioner made a statement for me of the military history of Elias Warner - a soldier in the Revolutionary War - as contained in his application for pension, on file in the Bureau. Elias Warner enlisted Mch. 14th 1781, to Dec. 23rd 1783 - as private in Capt. Parks' Col. Tupper's Mass. Troops. No battles mentioned - residence - Harvard - Mass. Date of Application - Apr. 13th 1818, Residence at date - Harvard - Mass - and did not give his age at date of application, but wrote "Born at Harvard Mass. in 1764" and that his claim was allowed.
I now want to get - if possible - the exact date of his birth - also the date of his death and where, especially the latter. If you can supply this from your records you will greatly oblige Yours Respectfully - (Mrs) Ella N. Taylor. Right Geneseo Chapter D. G. Rev. Geneseo - Ill.

Geneseo. Ill. Apr. 29 th 1903.
Dear Sir:
Will you please see if Elias Warner - of Worcester Co. Mass. was a pensioner after the Revolutionary war, and if so - will you give me all the information about him that you can. He are certain he was in that war - and fought at Bunker Hill - but have no other information, and do not know when he was born or died - nor about his war record further than above stated.
Whatever expense may be incurred about this - I will pay, but hope to receive an early reply.
Respectfully - (Mrs) Ella M. Taylor. Geneseo. Ill.

30 185 Rev INVALID.
File No. 30 185
Elias Warner
Rev Rev War
Act: June 7 th 39 th
Index:—Vol. 9 , Page 337
[Arrangement of 1870.]

May 8-1903 - H. B. L. Mrs. Ella N. Taylor - Genesee St. 1907 Jan. 23. Letter to Mrs. Ella N. Taylor e