Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 21564, Renaldo Webber, Mass.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Mass
Webber, Renaldo
821564
CONTENTS

New York 28.705
Renaldo Webber
of Madison Co in the State of New York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Carpenter of the Regt. commanded by Col Woodbridge in the Massachusetts line for 9 months 16 days
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 31 Dollars 77 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 17 day of May 1834 and sent to Hon. H. H. Fuller House Reps
Arrears to the 4th of March '34 $ 95.31 Semi-ant. allowance ending Sep. '34 15.88 $111.19
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Saml. H. Page Clerk Book 80 Vol. 1 Page 135
1830 Feb 2 Mrs H. C. Chamberlain gave birth to a daughter (See also file 25.931 4 25 925 - latter letter to Thos Harris for Mrs C.
Date of death not on a B

to the above... along...
Nov 17. 1842
Renaldo Webber Madison County New York
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To be sent to the child care of Thomas W. Blevins Albany
Adm d Susp d
Dear W. K. Fuller P. S. Chitts agent Cazenovia Post Office Madison County New York

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Reuben Wetmore Madison County N. York
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Enlis 1778 3 14 Private Capt Carpenter Capt Wood- none stated Through Old 70 years Living witness   Sub 1779 Lt Carpenter Col. [?] Brimfield Tradition   For Scholton's Guard 7 or 8 11 " Capt Hook Genl. Sullivan Palmer   Recd 1780 6 15 " " Capt Hook Major Darby Millbrook   8 15 " " Springfield   9 20 " " Wap. & Newton   From L. Br.   Cambridge   Barrington   Mass. to All-   -ny. Road   South Hadley   Mass to West   Point to   Deer's Ferry  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.  The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons - one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule [j] note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

Geo. O. Whiting Esq. Counsel Washington, D.C.

Rinaldo Webber In 1832 of Cazenovia Madison Co NY Was born in South Brimfield Mch 1762 & lived there during the Rev war, from thence removed to Cazenovia NY - 1778 enlisted under Capt John Carpenter of Brimfield In 1779 Served under Capt Keep of Munson as Substitute for Ichabod Goodell In 1780 enlisted into Co Capt Tharp 1 Regt Colo Hardbridge It is stated that he was known & often designated as Elder Webber His brother Chandler testifies he was known called in & out of the family Elder before & after he was a soldier & Elder Webber is stated by Secy State to be on roll of Capt Carpenter Co 9 in 1777

State of New York Madison County ss
Chandler Wheeler of the age of seventy years now resident of the town of Conesville in the county of Madison aforesaid and Brother of Rinaldo Wheeler who has by information applied for a Pension for Revolutionary services during the Revolutionary war - on his oath deposes & saith, that his brother Rinaldo at Brimfield in the State of Massachusetts at different times enlisted as a Soldier in the Revolutionary war & went into the service where this deponent still at home to take care of his Parents & manage the farm - that at one time he knew was at Springfield in Massachusetts at another time Rinaldo informed he had been in the State of New York at this deponent does not recollect the time he was absent distinctly This deponent further saith Rinaldo his brother was by his family & companions called Elder at the time he was a soldier & before - & at this day is often called by his family connections & familiar friends called Elder, - & further this deponent saith that he lived in the said town of Brimfield during the Revolutionary war & long after

That he was acquainted with all the inhabitants of the town of Burnfield & that he never knew a person that was called Elder Webber - except his brother except as stated Ronaldo was called or nicknamed - Charles Webber
Sworn before me this 27 th day of December 1833 before me
Richard Farnham { Justice of the peace of the County of Madison & State of Connecticut
State of New York Madison County ss I also certify that I am well acquainted with Charles Webber & that he is a man of respectability and entitled to full credit & belief under oath - Richard Farnham Justice as of course

State of New York Madison County
I James Frizell of the age of Sixty two years now residing in the Town of Cazenovia County of Madison & State of New York being duly sworn depose & saith upon his oath that he is well acquainted with Rinaldo Webber of Cazenovia aforesaid who is an applicant for a Pension on account of revolutionary services & has known him from his earliest recollection. This deponent further saith that he formerly resided in Brimfield in the State of Massachusetts during the revolutionary war & within sixty rods of the residence of said Webber & his father & that he well recollects that said Webber was absent from home & reported to be in the service in said war at two different times & distinctly recollects his returning from West Point where it was reported he had been stationed & this deponent has no doubt that the said Rinaldo Webber did serve at least two different terms of service in said war but for what length of time this deponent does not remember —
This deponent further saith that the said Rinaldo was frequently called by his family & acquaintances at that time by the name of Eldo & Elder & generally went by the name of Elder Webber & is frequently called by that name at present by his friends &

acquaintances - In early life particularly this deponent thinks he was more generally known by the name of Elder Webber than by that of Rinaldo - This deponent further saith that he never knew any other person in the Town of Brimfield aforesaid by the name of Elder Webber & that he this deponent lived in said town from his birth until he became twenty one years of age & was well acquainted in said town  James Frizzell
Sworn before me this 31 day of December 1833
Elisha Farnham
Justice of the Peace of the Town of Cummington County of Madison - I certify that James Frizzell is a man of respectability & entitled to full credit & belief under oath -
State of New York Madison County Clerk's Office
Elisha Farnham Justice of Peace ss. I, Andrew S. Sloan, Clerk of the said county, do certify that Elisha Farnham, before whom the two preceding Affidavits purport to have been sworn, was, at the dates of the same, One of the Justices of the Peace in and for the said County - And that I am ac- -quainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name, subscribed to the said Affidavits to be his proper hand writing and signature. Witness my hand and seal of Office this 4 th day of January 1834 -  A. Sloan Clk.
Chandler Webber for Rinaldo Webber
Rev W. H. Fuller

A. Nelson. Papers —
For a pension re
R. G. Childs or Levi Gibbs his atty.
19542
Adm d
9 mo. 160 spri
Hon W. K. Fuller

State of New York County of Madison } On this Eighth day of October 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Judges of the court of Common Pleas now sitting - Rinaldo Wilber Resident of the town of Coeymans in the county of Madison aforesaid - aged years 27 may last years who first being duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress Passed June 7 th 1832
That in the year 1778 he resided in the town of South Brimfield in the then County of Hampshire & State of Massachusetts In March 1778 he enlisted as a Soldier in Revolutionary war under Captain John Carpenter this Deponent then residing in South Brimfield in the State of Massachusetts - The company was commanded by the said John Carpenter as Captain and William Carpenter his son as Lieutenant both belonging to Old Brimfield in the said State of Massachusetts - This Deponent

enlisted for Three Months - and Marched thro old Brimfield Palmer Wilbraham to Springfield in the State of Massachusetts, where the Company was stationed, He was in the service three months & a few days over - He was sent and ordered with a Sergeant Guard to Boston with two Prisoners - when he returned, the Term of his enlistment had expired and a few days over -
In September in the year 1779 Ichabod Goodell was drafted in the said town of South Brimfield to serve Three months in the Militia of the State of Massachusetts in the Revolutionary War - And this Deponent took his place and was substituted instead of said Goodell in a Company commanded by one Captain Keep of Manson in the State of Massachusetts - The Lieutenants

Name is not recollected, This Deponent Marched from South Brunfield to Great Barrington in the State of Massachusetts here from there to Albany - he understood their destination was to Fort Stanwicks They went into Barracks in Albany They remained so long in this place That it was understood the Indians had gone into winter quarters and the Company & this deponent were Discharged after a service of only 7 or 8 weeks - & returned home -
In the year 1780 this Deponent volunteered in the service of the Revolutionary war for six months at South  Old Brunfield aforesaid - They viz volunteers were mustered & rendezvoused at South Hadley in the State of Massachusetts under Colonel Woodbridge and marched thro' Great Barrington aforesaid to West Point at West Point he was attached to a company commanded by

one Captain Thorp - one adjutant White  McCauley had the Command of the Company in the absence of Captain Thorp - from first point this Detachment & the company moved to the east side of the River & marched down to Deb's Ferry and then recrossed the River to the west side and the army was stationed along the River on the Jersey shore - while this Detachment was at least point two men were shot for desertion one of whom was called Thompson while this Detachment was stationed on the Jersey shore Major Andre was taken alive & hung, this Detachment saw him hung at Orange town; This Detachment followed Colonel Smith who had Andre his orders to go to west point - This Detachment was attached to General Paterson Brigade while at least point - Major Dorsey commanded was Major in the Regiment to which this Detachment was attached - the Col's name not recollected - This Detachment served the full time of his enlistment & was discharged at least point after six months service - he has no documentary evidence of his service & knows of no person he can produce who can testify to his service except Hooker Bishop whose affidavit he has procured. He this Detachment relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the Agency of any State -
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid A. J. Sloan Clk
Remained W. B. Allen

Certificate of Character
We Lewis Leonard a Chrysyman of the Town of Cozzenovia Cozzenovia and Levi Gibbs of the same place
residing in the town of Cozzenovia in the County of Madison aforesaid - hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Rinaldo Webber who has subscribed & sworn to the above Declaration that we believe him to be twenty years of Age that he is believed and reputed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution & that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid A. S. Sloan Clk
Lewis Leonard Levi Gibbs

Interrogations propounded by the Court to the Applicant
1 st When & in what year were you born?
Answer Dularant was Born in the town of South Bernefeld in Massachusetts in the year 1762 -
2 d Have you any Record of your age & if so when is it?
Answer Has none as he knows of
3 d When were you living when called into service? Where have you lived since the Revolutionary war and where do you now live?
Answer At South Bernefeld in the State of Massachu- setts during the Revolution from there he moved to Grotonovia in the State of N.Y. where he now resides
4 th How were you called into service - were you drafted did you volunteer or were you a substitute? And if a Substitute for whom? -
Answer Twin Dularant entered the service as a

volunteer and one as a substitute for Ephraim Goodell
5 th Have the names of some of the Regular officers who were with the troops when you served - such Continental & Militia Regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your service
Answer Genl. Patterson was Salubanto Genl. Maj. Derby was his Major - Col. not Percy
6 th Did you ever receive a discharge from the service - if so by whom was it given & what has become of it?
Answer Don't remember that he ever had a written discharge
7 th Have the names of the persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, who can testify as to your character for veracity and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution
Answer

Delaurent is known to Levi Gibbs D. G. Childs Samuel White Benjamin Whalen Allen Dreyer Esq and the Reverend Lewis Leonard -
Certificate of Court
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter & after hearing the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and proved as he states had the right for the certificate that it appears to them that Lewis Leonard who has signed the foregoing certificate is a clergyman resi- dent in the town of Cazenovia and that Levi Gibbs who has also signed the same is a resident of the town of Cazenovia and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit

State of New York Madison County ss
Deopa Bishop of the town of Pompey in the county of Onondaga age forty years on the 22 March next - born in South Brimfield in the State of Massachusetts - being duly sworn deposes & saith - that he was a soldier in the Revolutionary Army - that in the year 1779 his Department retired as soldier for three months & joined a company then mustered by Capt John Root of Mansfield in the State of Massachusetts - that at the time of enlistment his Department was Resident of South Brimfield adjoining said Mansfield - that Rinaldo Wilber was a soldier in the same company & was then also a resident of South Brimfield - that this Department & the said Wilber marched from said South Brimfield to Albany in the State of New York - & were then stationed in Poughkeepsie - that after a period of six or eight weeks they were discharged & returned home
and further this Department South that in the year 1780 he again enlisted as volunteer in the Revolutionary Army at South  Old Brimfield in the then County of Hampshire in the State of Massachusetts - that this Department and one Rinaldo Wilber was also a soldier at the same time - they were mustered & quartered at South Hadley in the state of Massachusetts under Col Woodbridge and were marched to West Point - at West

Point they  they were attached to our company, under the command of one White - at that time The company was afterwards commanded by another person, the name not recollected That the said Reinaldo Wilson was a soldier in the same company, & this Deponent & the said Wilson were mess mates in the same company, that they both served six months the time of their enlistment at Hooper High sworn & subscribed before me this 24th day of August 1832 Justin Dwinell Supreme Court Comr.
State of New York } Madison County Clerk's Office } J. S. Andrew S. Sloan, Clerk of the said County, do certify that Justin Dwinell before whom the preceding Affidavit purports to have sworn, was, at the date of the same, a Supreme Court Commissioner in and for the said Coun- ty. And that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said Affidavit to be his proper hand writing and signature - Witness my hand and seal of Office this 18 th day of July 1833 - A. S. Sloan Clk

I Andrew S. Sloan Clerk of the court of Common Pleas in & for the county of Madison do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Rinaldo Webber for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this Eighth day of October one thousand eight hundred & thirty two — A. S. Sloan Clk

January 7, 1933
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Rinaldo Webber-S.21564
Miss Mary Warner Guys Mills Pennsylvania
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to Samuel and Rinaldo Webber, soldiers of the Revolutionary War.
A careful search of the Revolutionary War records has been made in your behalf and no record found based upon the military service of a Samuel Webber or Weber in that war. The history of Rinaldo Webber is given below:
Rinaldo Webber (he was sometimes called Elder Webber) was born May 27, 1762, in South Brimfield, Massachusetts. His father lived in said South Brimfield during the Revolutionary War; the names of his parents are not given.
While residing in South Brimfield, Massachusetts, he enlisted and served with the Massachusetts Troops, as follows: from March, 1778, three months and a few days in Captain John Carpenter's Company; from September, 1779, seven or eight weeks in Captain Keep's Company; from sometime in 1780, six months in Captain Thorp's or Captain White's Company, under Major Derby, and witnessed the execution of Major Andre.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 8, 1832, while residing in Cazenovia, Madison County, New York.
It is not stated that soldier was ever married.
In 1833, soldier's brother, Chandler Webber, was aged seventy years and resided in Cazenovia, New York. There are no further family data.
Very truly yours
A.D.HILLER Assistant to Administrator.
Found first census 1790 Elder Webber
dit mear said Capt. Keep Mass solo parade agd Caleb Keep was there was a Capt Keep I did a Capt Caleb Keep - I did not use Christian name -
Date of death not an age

Reinstated 21 564 INVALID.
File No. 21,564
Reinaldo Weber
Br. Rec. No. 10
Act: June 7 th 89 th
Index:—Vol. 2 , Page 121
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1933. Jan 7. Testimony to Miss Mary Harnett - Col.

M. Warner, Guy's Mills Pa.
Veterans Administration, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D.C.

Guy's Mills, Pa. Dec. 16, 1932
Commissioner of Pensions, Dept. of the Interior, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
Please advise me if there is Revolutionary War record of Samuel Webber of Hampshire Co., Mass., a member of Col. Elisha Porter's Hampshire Co. regiment? Also record of his son Rinaldo Webber who settled in Madison Co., N. Y. early in 1800?
Very Truly,
(Miss) Mary Warner
✓ Please do not bother to acknowledge inquiry.

Recd 17 th January 1831.
add d evidence for, Ranald Macdonald, New York State.
J. L. Schenck Esquire
Camp of Pioneers
Washington City. D.C.

Concordia Med 6 o . St. Nazian Jan'y 10 — 1834 —
C. L. Edmonds Esq
Comm o of Pensions
DSir
I now enclose you the Certificate of the Sec'y of the State of Massachusetts in relation to the services of Rinaldo Webber in the Revolutionary war whose case has been suspended —
The certificate mentions the services of Elder Webber in the company of Capt Carpenter — Mr Webber thinks that he is the person designated as Elder Webber — as he was called man by that name then Rinaldo while young & is often to my knowledge called Elder at this day — but I had, till this question came up supposed he was Elder of the Baptist Church to which he belongs — which he is not & never has been — Mr Webber has endeavored to establish these facts by aff'ts which are enclosed — if they are not sufficient — please to inform me what further proof will be necessary — if they are sufficient — Mr Webber original statement under oath will be verified almost to the letter by the certificate of the Sec'y. I have no doubt the services were performed as he stated, & should if practicable be glad satisfactorily to convince your Department of the truth of Mr Webber

Statement of his services in his application for a pension
Yours Most respectfully
B G Hilds
As you will perceive Mr. in his publication Walker's statement of 5 or 6 weeks services in Albany is very near the truth - much more correct than many who swore to the same service - B G H

Rev. Rinaldo Webber New York
Suspended act 7 Jm '32 letter 5 Nov. 1833
To J. G. Childs See let to Hon W.R. Fuller Age 11 '34 —

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Secretary's Office, Novem r 15 th 1833.
I hereby Certify, That, from an examination of the Books and Documents, relating to Military Services in the War of the Revolution, which remain in this Department, it appears that the name of Rinaldo Webber, as a private, is borne on a Pay Roll of Capt. Caleb Keap's Company, in Col. Israel Chapin's Regt. where he is allowed from October 15 th to November 21 st 1779, for service and travel, m. d. One month and eleven days 1- 11
Rinaldo Webber's name is borne on a Pay Roll for the six months Men. of the Town of Brimfield, where he is allowed from July to Dec r 1730, five months and fifteen days. — — — 5- 15
Rinaldo Webber claims for further services under Capt. Keap, in 1779, the rolls of which are not found in this Office. —
Rinaldo Webber also claims for services under Capt. Carpenter, 1777; the name of Elder Webber is borne on a Pay Roll of Capt. John Carpenter's Company, where he is allowed from March 17 th to June 7 th 1779, three months. 3- Edward D. Bangs by