Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 10,927, John B Veeder, New York

SERVICE
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New York
Veeder, John B.
P. 10,927
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34.510 Application of John B. Veeder for a pension under the Act of 7 th June 1832
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Agent Giles P. Yates of Schenectady N.Y.

State of New York County of Schenectada } S.S.
On this 13 th day of October One thousand eight hundred and thirty seven personally appeared before me Sam- uel W. Jones First of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County John B. Veeder a resident of the town of Providence in the County of Saratoga in said State aged Seventy six years and up- wards, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the follow- ing Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed 7 th June 1832. He was born in the township of Schenectada in the now County of Schen- ectada in said State on the sixth day of November one thousand seven hundred and sixty. His age is recorded in his fam- ily bible.
He was living in the said township of Schenectada when he entered the service of the United States. He lived there about four- teen years after leaving the service and then removed to said town of Providence where he now resides.
He entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated.
He this Declarant in the fall of the year 1779, this Declarant believes in the month of September & October in said year was drafted to serve with a detachment of Militia from the District of Schenectada at Fort Plank and Stone Arabia and marched with said Detachment to said Fort, where he served pursuant to such
genuine of the same

draft for the term of one week at least. This Detachment was commanded by Major Myn- dut Temple and the names of his officers in this engagement were Captains Thomas B Banker, Lieutenant John B Vrooman and Aaron or Arnt Wedder Second Lieutenant, Ensign Truman B Schurmeier, Adjutant John Lansing and others whose names are not now recollected. After serving said term of one week at Fort Plank aforesaid this Declarant was ordered and marched with a like Detachment to Shes Arabia or Fort Paris where he served under the afore- named officers for the term of three weeks.
In the month of June - 1779 as this Declarant served with a Detachment of militia from Said District of Schenectady for the term of at least twelve days and this De- clarant thinks fourteen days with Said De- tachment of Militia at Saundaga under General George Clinton & Said Captain Banker and together with a detachment of Continental troops were engaged in erecting a block- house.
In the Spring of the year 1780 when the enemy devastated the Mohawk Valley he was on duty with a like detachment and as this Declarant believes under com- mand of Captain Banker aforesaid & marched on this occasion to Canajoharie & then re- turned to Fort Hunter where he performed garrison duty for the term of two weeks.
As this Declarant served for about four or five days with a detachment of

militia and Indians and marched to Beaverdam for the purpose of apprehending a party of Tories there concealed. This oc- curred in April 1780 & the officers who had charge of this expedition were Major Wem- ple and David Lieutenant Vidder.
He served with a like detach- ment for a term of five days and marched to Hildeburg in the month of June or July 1780 under command of said Captain Wan- ker.
He served for the term of one day at a time in the summer of the year 1780 with a small detachment of Militia to the City of Albany to guard some prisoners to said City from Schenectady aforesaid. This Declarant cannot remember who was the Captain of the guard.
This Declarant served with other mem- bers of the militia belonging to the Regiment of said Col: Wemple during the years 1777, 1778, 1779 & 1780 in performing patrol or garrison duty at Schenectady. The then town of Schen- ectady was at that time surrounded with pickets & block houses and there were two guard houses within the bounds of the town. This Declarant took his turn in serving as such guard during the year 1777 for the term of one week as a substitute for others he being at that time only 17 years of age. The Captains of the guard whose names he recollects were John Clute and John

Vrooman. His term came during the years 1778. 1779 & 1780 about once a fortnight & sometimes two or three days in succession but this Declarant cannot specify on what particular days he served. He was called upon to perform such duty as often as other members of said militia when not ordered away on distant expeditions. He engaged in said patrol or garrison duty at Schenectady during the year 1778 for his own behalf for the term of not exceeding one week. In the year 1779 for at least fifteen days; in the year 1780 at least twenty days under the captains of the guard before named & other different and other officers of the said Regiment.
In the latter part of the month of July or about the beginning of August 1780 the this Declarant marched with a detachment of Militia from said District to Fort Plain. On this occasion the Canajoharie settlements were destroyed by the enemy. They followed the enemy towards Fort Plain & there remained on duty about days. The whole period of time he was on duty in this engagement was at least three weeks. The following are the names of the officers who had command of this Detachment. Colonel Wemple, Major Wemple, Major Saitz. Captain Banker, aforesaid. Captain Abraham Oothout and nearly all the other officers of said Regiment of Colonel

Abraham Wemple.
In the month of June 1781 he this Declarant served with a like de- tachment at Fort Plank under Said Cap- tain Banker for the term of one week or ten days. from thence he was ordered to Stone Arabia where he performed garrison duty one week under command of one Major Van Buren.
At the time Ballston was destroyed by the enemy this Declarant marched with a like detachment to Ballston under com- mand of Said Captain Banker, where he per- formed garrison duty for a few days. Served in this engagement for the term of two weeks.
In and for the year 1781 this Declarant enlisted and served in the Vol- unteer Company of Artillery Commanded by Captain John Cronkhoff in Schenecta- da aforesaid. This company was com- posed of fifteen men and were particular- ly charged with the custody of the cannon belonging to Said Regiment of Colonel Wemple aforesaid. He fired alarms on the approach of the enemy and on other occa- sions. Said company also engaged as occasion required in performing garrison duty at Schenectada aforesaid and at other places. He served in Said Company during said year 1781 discharging said duty at the Schenectada garrison aforesaid for a time in the whole exceeding one month. And when not on garrison duty was regularly every week drilled and reviewed by the
in vigor said garrison of peace

officers of said Regiment who were for the time being at Schenectada aforesaid.
Late in the fall of the year 1780 he marched with a detachment of Militia about twenty five miles up the Mohawk River to a place opposite Caughnawaga on the South Side of said river. Colonel Wemple aforesaid and Major Wemple had the Command of said detachment.
As this Declarant served with a detachment of seven militia men for the term of three days under command of Lieutenant J. H. Pels & John Thornton in an expedition to Milton and Lake Desolation in pursuit of a noted Tory Joseph Bittis who was afterwards ap- prehended & hung in the year 1782 in the City of Albany —

THE FOLLOWING are the names of some of the regular officers whom he knew, or who were with the troops where he served, and such continental and militia regiments or companies with which he served, or as he can recollect, viz : Colonel Marinus Willett, General Sullivan, adjutant Ellis A. Pond, General Gaan-sergeant, Colonel Van Dyck, Captain Fink Col. Clock, Captain John Myndse, Capt. Jesse Van Slyck & all the other captains of said Regiment of Col. Wimpf He never received any written discharge from the service.
He has no _____ documentary evidence, and knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service except those whose testimony is hereto annexed
The following are the names of persons to whom he is known in his present neighborhood, and who can testify as to his character for veracity, and their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution, to wit John DeGraff, Richard Van Marken, John S. Shaw, Jacob Shaw, Nathaniel Wescot & John Gay
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever, to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Subscribed and sworn to the } day and year first aforesaid }
J. H. Jones, First Judge of Schenectady County
John B. Meeder
in vigor said guarantee of the peace

We the undersigned do hereby certify that, we have been personally, and intimately acquainted with John Bleecker for more than twenty years last past, and that throughout the whole region of country where he is known, he is much respected for truth and veracity, uprightness of character &c. and that it is generally understood and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides that he was a soldier of the Revolutionary War.
And we do further certify that we have been informed that the said John Bleecker is now making application for a Pension under the Act of Congress of June 7 th 1832, and that we have no hesitation in saying and verily believe that the facts which he may set forth in his declaration will be true, according to the best of his knowledge, judgment and understanding.
Northampton October 18 th 1837
John I. Shew
Jacob Shew Nathaniel Westcot
John Fay
On this Seventh day of November 1837, personally appeared before me the undersigned, John I. Shew, Jacob Shew, Nathaniel Westcot, & John Fay all to me well known, who respectively made oath, that the facts set forth in the above certificate by them signed, are true; and I certify, that said John I. Shew, Jacob Shew, Nathaniel Westcot, & John Fay are credible witnesses.
B. S. Merrill Commissioner
State of New York Montgomery County Clerk's office
George D. Ferguson Clerk of said County, do hereby certify, that Clark S. Merrill before whom the preceding certificate has been sworn to, or purports to have been, was at the time thereof a Commissioner of Deeds, in & for said county - for peace

County, duly elected & qualified; and that the signature to the certificate subjoined to the certificate or deposition above named, purporting to be by him signed, is genuine.
Witness my hand & seal of office, this Ninth day of November 1837.
Geo: D. Ferguson. clk
Northampton Nov 13
John H. Yates Esq.
Schenectady
N.Y.
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The Deposition of Henry A. Beck of the fifth ward of the City of Schenectada in the County of Schenectada & State of New York, who testifies & says, that he is now seventy-four years of age, and a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress passed 7 th June 1832. That he this Deponent was during the war of the revolution, well acquainted with John Bleeder the same person referred to and described in the accompanying documents. That said John Bleeder & this Deponent belonged to the aforesaid Company of artillery commanded by Captain John Crousehorn. Said Company consisted of about fifteen members. and their duty was to fire their cannon on all occasions of alarm on the approach of the enemy & to guard the Schenectada Garrison. This Deponent has personal knowledge of the services of said John Bleeder in said Company of Captain Crousehorn as a soldier on garrison at Schenectada for and during the year 1781, for the term of at least one month, and when not on such duty, was on parade, once a week & sometimes twice a week, and were drilled & reviewed. This Deponent has also personal recollection of said John Bleeder performing garrison duty as a member of the militia in the Regiment of Colonel Abraham Wemple aforesaid in said district of Schenectada during the years 1778, 1779. & 1780 but cannot Justice of the peace

particularize the precise terms of his service as such guard or while on patrol duty. his term was sometimes for two or three days in succession, and sometimes or generally but once in two weeks, and this deponent verily believes said John B. Veeder served during the year 1778 as such guard for the term of one week, in the year 1779 during the spring summer & fall months for the term of at least two weeks - in the year 1780, for the same term of two weeks.
Henry H. Peck
On the 13 th day of October 1837, personally appeared before me the undersigned, Henry H. Peck above named who made oath, that the facts set forth in the foregoing deposition by him signed are true, and I certify that said Henry H. Peck is a credible witness.
John H. Van Eps
Justice of the peace

The Deposition of John DeGraff of the town of Schenectady in the County of Montgomery in the State of New York aged Eighty two years and upwards, who testifies and says that he is now a pensioner of the United States under the Act of 7 th June 1832 having been during the war of the Revolution a private in the Company of Militia commanded by Capt John Van Patten in the Regiment of Col: Abraham Wemple in the District of Schenectady. That he this Deponent was during said war well acquainted with John B. Veeder — the same person referred to and described in the annexed documents, and was acquainted with said John B. Veeder — since the year 1770. This Deponent further saith, that in the year 1779, this Deponent served with a Detachment of Militia from Schenectady aforesaid at Fort Paris or Stone Arabia, then called Fort Keyser for the term of nearly one month — on this occasion the aforesaid John B. Veeder served also with a like detachment for a period extending one month but for how long a period beyond one month this Deponent cannot specify.
John De Graff On this 20 th day of July 1837, personally appeared before me the undersigned John DeGraff above named to me known, who made oath, that the facts set forth in the foregoing deposition by him signed are true; & I certify that he is a credible witness. John H. Van Eps Justice of the peace

The Deposition of Frederick Van Patten of the town of Glensville in the County of Schenebada and State of New York (who being duly sworn and examined testifies and says that he is now of the age of sev- enty six years, and was a soldier of the revolution and is a pensioner of the United States under the act of 7 th June 1832. This Deposition was during the life time of John B. Veder. The same person referred to in the annexed papers as the husband of the aforesaid Declarant, with a get- ter with said John B. Veder that this Deponent's acquaintance with said John B. Veder commenced in the year 1773 when he the Deponent was a resident of Worsteria now said town of Glensville. This Deponent further saith that his per- sonal knowledge of the military services of said John B. Veder is as follows to wit - that said John B. Veder served with this Depo- nent at Stone Arabia N.Y. in 1779 in the company (he believes) of Capt. Jellis J. Ponda in the Regiment of Col. Abraham Wemple for the term of at least three weeks -
Frederick his Van Patten mark
On the 29 th day of May 1837, Personally appeared before me the subscriber, the above deponent, to me known to be the person described in and who executed the foregoing affidavit, and acknowledged that the facts set forth in the above affidavit by him signed are true & correct. and I certify that he the said Frederick Van Patten, cannot unite his name thereto in consequence of old age & defect of vision - & that he is a credible witness. -
J. D. HARMAN Justice of the peace

The Deposition of John J. Schermerhorn of the City of Schenectada in the County of Schenectada & State of New York who testifies & says, that he is now a pensioner of the United States, under the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832 and was during the war of the revolution, well acquainted with John B. Veeder the same person referred to & described in the accompanying documents - he this deponent saw the said John B. Veeder on duty at Fort Paris in the latter part of the month of October or the beginning of the month of November 1779, he this deponent being himself on duty at that time at said fort Paris in Stone Arabia N.Y. but this deponent cannot say for how long a time said John B. Veeder served on this occasion - In the latter part of the month of March or the beginning of the month of April 1780, he said John B. Veeder & this deponent were on duty together at a place called Beavertown, with a detachment of militia under Command of Major Wemple & Lieutenant Aaron Veeder from the Regiment of Colonel Wemple in the District of Schenectada for at least five or six days - this deponent also saw said John B. Veeder on duty at Fort Plain aforesaid in the month of August 1780, but this deponent cannot say how long - This Depo-
John B. Veeder

unt also saw said John B. Vedder on duty with a detachment of Militia at Ballston when that place was burnt in 1780.
John J. Schermerhorn
In this fourteenth day of October 1837, personally appeared before me the undersigned, John J. Schermerhorn above named, who made oath that the facts set forth in the foregoing deposition by him signed are true, & I certify that said John J. Schermerhorn is a credible witness.
John H. O'Neil Justice of the peace
The Deposition of Richard Van Vranken of the town of Broadalbin in the County of Montgomery in the State of New York, aged seventy-four years who testifies & says, that he is a pensioner of the United States, under the act of Congress passed 7 th June 1832 that during the war of the revolution in this Deponent resided in the township of Schenectady, within the beat of the Regiment of Colonel Abraham Nemple, & while there & even before the commencement of said war, became acquainted with John B. Vedder, the same person referred to and described in the preceding documents. That said John

B. Veder & this Deponent both be- longed to, or were enrolled in the same Company of Militia in said Regiment: to wit, the Company com- manded by Captain Thomas B. Banker - This Deponent served in said Veder did not serve in, and said Veder as this Deponent is certified served in several expedi- tions which this Deponent did not serve in - and this Deponent re- members well that said John B. Veder & this Deponent served together in the following towns or engagements; to wit - In an expedi- tion with a detachment of militia to Fort Plank & Stone Arabia in the year not recollected - under com- mand of said Captain Banker - He this Deponent served at said Stone Arabia for the full term of three weeks pursuant to a draft - After said John B. Veder had served said three weeks, he was ordered home, but this Deponent continued to serve as a substitute for a longer term - In the spring of the year 1780, he this De- ponent served with said Veder with a like detachment to Canajoharie & under command of said Banker - said Veder doing duty on this occasion for at least two weeks. He this De- ponent served with said Veder under Major Wemple aforesaid for the term of

two or three days at the Helderberg in pursuit of Tories but the year is not recollected - This Deponent & said John B. Veeder served with a Detachment of militia one day at least in guarding prisoners from Schenectady to Albany, under command of Sergeant John Fort - time not remembered. When the Canajoharie settlements were de- stroyed, said Veeder & this Deponent served together at Fort Plain, when Col. Wemple un- der whose command we were, asked who would go forth in pursuit of the enemy towards Fort Plank - said John B. Veeder was the first man who spoke & expressed his willingness to go & he did go together with a large Detachment to Fort Plank on this occasion said Veeder served as long as any of the militia, but the exact time this Deponent cannot specify - This Deponent served with said Veeder at Ballstown when that place was destroyed - but said Veeder served for a longer time than this Deponent - this Deponent being called elsewhere. This Deponent cannot be more specific as to this engagement, ex- cept that said Barker had the command.
This Deponent also served with said Veeder on the occasion of the pursuit after the Tory Joseph Batts as detailed in the declaration of said Veeder for a term of at least four days, under command of said Lieut. Thornton & others not recollected.
Richard V. Van Schaick

In this thirty first day of October 1837 personally appeared before me the undersigned Richard Van Vranken also named who made oath that the facts set forth in the foregoing deposition by him signed are true and I certify that the said Richard Van Vranken is a credible witness David Cady Smith Commission of Oaths in for the City of Schenectady
Application of John B. Vreden for a pension under the act of 7 th June 1832
Agent Giles F. Yates Schenectady N.Y.

State of New York County of Schenectada } S.S. Clerk's Office.
I John B. Burnham Clerk of said County of Schenectada do hereby certify that M c govern before whom the foregoing Declaration of John B. Vade purports to have been sworn was at the date of the same First Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in & for said County duly commissioned & qualified & I further certify that John H. Van Eps before whom the accompany- ing Depositions of Henry H. Park, John D. Graff & John J. Schurmerhorst purport to have been sworn & that J. S. Harman before whom the affi- davit of Frederick Van Patten purports to have been sworn were at the dates of the same Just- ices of the Pleas in & for said County, duly Com- missioned & qualified, and I further certify that David Cady Smith before whom the ac- companying affidavit of Richard Van Vranken purports to have been sworn was at the date of the same a Commissioner of Dreds in & for the City of Schenectada commissioned & qualified according to law. And I further certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said M c govern, John H. Van Eps, J. S. Harman and David Cady Smith that I have examined their subscriptions to said Declaration & affidavits with their accompanying certificates & am well persuaded that said subscriptions are genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & af- fixed my official seal this second day of November 1837. J. B. Burnham Clerk

information as contained in his (John B. Veeder) application on file in this Bureau. John B. Veeder Rep. 10 927
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     1777 Served at various times Pvt. Thomas B. Banker John Glute John Vrooman John Croushorn's artillery Abraham Kemple N.Y.  
Battles engaged in, _____ Residence of soldier at enlistment, Schenectady N.Y. Date of application for pension, Oct 13 1837 Residence at date of application, Residence Saratoga Co. N.Y. Age at date of application, born in Twp. of Schenectady, Schenectady Co. N.Y. Nov. 6, 1760.
Remarks: _____  This claim was not allowed as he failed to furnish proof of 6 mos. service as required by the Act of Jan 9, 1832, under which he applied.  The Rev. War Pension Records fail to afford any information in regard to John - Veeder described by you. Very respectfully,
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Commissioner.

New York
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1909 July 8 Hist. Co L.B. Wilson V.L.M. (Letter in mid. File 19574.)
Adm. of Dis. and Rec. 5-1974
10927 P.O. John P. Weeder
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18 .
Discharged: _____, 18 . REJECTED
Application filed: _____, 18 .
Alleges: _____ _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P.O. _____ _____ _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18 .