Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 14750, Abraham Vansices, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Vansices Abraham or Vansers or Vansese
814750
CONTENTS
banded

8962 865 New York Abraham Vandicee Conscript in the State of New York was a private in the Company commanded Captain Bonker of the Regt: commanded Col: Wanple in the N.Y. m a for 24 mo.
scribed on the Roll of New York the rate of 80 Dollars 00 Cents per annum; commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 2 day of May 1833 and sent to Damon Robinson Port Byron
Arrears to the 14th of Mar. 1833 $160.00 Pension allowance ending 4 Sept. 40.00 $200.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { bot June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. L. Williams Clerk, Book Vol. 4 Page 34

Abraham Van Sice
Pension Papers
admitted.
24 mo. Private.

Wolfel Garmu
aff

State of New York County of Wayne Co -
Be it remembered that on this Eleventh day of September A.D. 1832 before me George H. Scott a justice of the peace of the town of Arcadia in the County of Wayne aforesaid personally appeared Weffel Bornee to me personally known of the town of Arcadia in the County of Wayne aforesaid who being first duly sworn by me according to law doth on his oath depose and say that he is well acquainted with Abraham Faries of the town of Conesville in the County of Cayuga and State of New York and has been so acquainted for a great length of time - That he was so acquainted before, during, and after the Revolutionary War that he the said Abraham and this Deponent both lived in Schoharie then in the County of Albany in said State of New York during the Revolution That this Deponent knew that the said Abraham was in the service of the United States in the Militia in the Company of Captain Brinker in Colonel Van Klief Regiment and went to Canajoharie, Fort Plank, Schoharie Dam, Baldtown, Schoharie Stone Arabia and to Canajoharie all at different times - That he has frequently seen him under arms in the service at different times than the above That this Deponent was in the same Company with said Abraham for upwards of two years under the above named officers and that he was privy to the said Abraham being in the same Company three years and upwards before this Deponent went into the service That the said Abraham was in service all the time he this Deponent was in the Company and all the time from the year previous That the Company were some times out of Schoharie some times Employed in building Blockhouses pickets redouts & other fortifications and standing on guard and acting as

Scouts and were received daily that the company were permitted to lodge & board at home when in town but were to be at the parade grounds at Roll call at the head of the column daily this was permitted when not on other duty - The years this Department was in the service of the United States with the said Abraham Adonai and was in the years 1780-81. & 82 And further this Department & South West Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
The word "one" in 28 th line erased and the words "upwards of two" written over: word "one" altered to five in 30 th line. Also the whole of 31 st line & part of 34 th line erased before sworn to - before
George W. Scott Wessel Borne
Geo. Scott Justice of the peace
Wayne County ss: I the above justice do here by certify that I am well acquainted with Wessel Borne the person who has sworn to and subscribed the above affidavit, and that he is a credible person and his statements may be relied on as the truth - Geo. Scott Justice of the peace
State of New York Wayne County ss I Cullen Foster, Deputy Clerk of said County do certify that George W. Scott before whom above declaration purport to have been sworn was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly elected and sworn and that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe the above signatures of the said Justice are genuine. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office this twelfth day of September 1832
Wessel Borne
Cullen Foster. Dep. Clerk.

Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832 State of New York County of Cayuga ss-
On this twentieth day of September in the year One thousand eight hun- dred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before Joseph S. Richardson Isakel Fitch Augustus F. Ferriss and the Judges of the court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Cayuga Now sitting Abraham Vanclief a resident of the town of Conquest in the County of Cayuga and State of New York aged sixty eight years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. That he entered the service of the United States under Captain and Lieutenant Colonel Safford and Colonel and Colonel McManus in the Regiment of Militia in which Regiment were Lieuten- ant Colonel Abraham Dathout Mayor Abraham Smith in the month of June in the year A.D. 1779 as he thinks and at the time of the destruction of Cahan- -naga. Was called out with the whole of the Militia and went to Cahan-naga and was out about two weeks and was discharged and returned home to Schoharie at which place he resided at that time and at which place he entered the service as afore- said
That he entered the service of the United States again the last of July of the year A.D. 1779 under aforesaid named officers and was discharged in the last of August thereafter that he entered this service at Schoharie aforesaid at which place he then resided That he went on this service to Fort Plain went as a volunteer and was gone from home about a month -
That he again entered the service

of the United States under the aforenamed Officers at Sche necady aforesaid at which place he then lived upon the whole Regiment being called out - in the month of September A.D. 1879 and were marched to Baldstowen from home about a half month and was discharged -
That he again entered the service under the afore named officers except the Colonel & Colonel Willet of the Continental line as he now thinks took the command. That the whole Regiment was called out at this time which was in October in the year A.D. 1879 that on entering this service the onsen indians who were friendly and had joined the forces under Colonel Willet requested that he should go with them and with the permission of his officers he volunteered to go with them and marched to Johnstown at which place had a skirmish with the hostile in- dians & Indians followed them through the German Flats - crossed the Mohawk River then back through the Royal Gorge. Ironton and west Canada Creek from there returned back to Sche nectady and were discharged and was out about a month that he lived at Sche nectady when he entered this service and entered the service there
He again entered the service of the United States in the first part of January of the year A.D. 1880 as a volunteer - That Colonel Temple gave orders to the friendly Indians to go out on a scout to the north towards Canada and the Indians requested that he should go with them and made the same request to Colonel Temple that he (this claimant) should go with them and Colonel Temple requested that he should accordingly he went and in his way passed through Baldstowen - where Plattsburg now is and down Lake Cham- plain and about that lake and returned home to Sche-

Kentucky in the month of August following and was out from home little over two months - The principal object that he understood from the officers for the expedition was to take one Joseph Bellis a notorious spy and liar but when the Indians got out they went further & longer than was necessary for the obtaining the object if it could it have been done then but we did not take him -
That in the latter part of August of the year A.D. 1780 he again entered the service of the United States under the aforesaid Militia Officers at Schenectady aforesaid at which place he signed that he entered as a volunteer and remained in this service till the close of the war in the year A.D. 1783 - That by an agreement as he now believes of the officers a certain number were to be raised by a draft or by volunteers to go out from Schenectady when called and do duty at home when not abroad that he volunteered as one to go out on service and to do duty at home when not abroad That it was the order of the draft or engagement to be ready for any alarm to go at a distance or to do service at home and by the arrangement those who did not go abroad on service were to do service at home when the others were out That he was mustered into service according to the arrangement and put into actual service by drilling and doing duty constantly from day to day but was permitted to lodge at home and board at home when not from Schenectady, or on duty were obliged to be at a given place at roll call daily and drill and when at Schenectady were employed in building picket redoubts block houses & other fortifications and when out from said Schenectady were out on scouts against the Indians and Tories and as a spy of the Indian movements.

that when he went out on scouts Lieutenant Sanford usually took the command of the party or company out while the Captain took command at Schenectady - That while in this last service went to Bruns dune on an alarm and took 20 Tories - went to Harmans creek to dislodge the Tories went on same business to Ballstowen and took twenty two and was out on various and frequent excursions against the Tories and as an indian spy - That the whole of his time was employed in the service of the United States from the time he entered the last service till the close of the war except it may be one or two months before he was discharged - That the community was in constant fear of indians and Tories - which required the exertions of soldiers to keep off - That he has no documentary evidence of his service and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure except the testimony of Mabel Corvine -
He hereby relinquishes every claim against whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
The words "and Lieutenant Governor Sanford" "or on ground" has been inserted in the words "in the full part of them" "thus" written over erasures
his Abraham Vansese Mark
We Russell Osburn a clergyman residing in the town of Mentz in the county of Cayuga and state of New York and William Stoyler residing in the town of Conesville in the county aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Abraham Vansese who has had subscribed

And I swear to the above declaration that we believe him to be sixty eight years of age that he is reported and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion Sworn to and subscribed Roswell Osborn the day and year aforesaid William Snyder The word "eight" interlined
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogations prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states and the court further certifies that it appears to them that Roswell Osborn ————— who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident of the town of Mentz in the County of Cayuga and that William Snyder who has also signed the same is a resident in the town of Hoopeston in said County and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit and certify that the towns of Conquest and Mentz join
I Michael S. Myers Clerk of the court of Common Pleas in and for the county of Cayuga and state of New York do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Abraham Van Vleet for a pension Witness my hand and seal of office this Twenty fourth day of September A D 1832
M. S. Myers Clerk for P. H. Myers D r Clk

Abraham Vandies 11/16/65 Declaration
Abraham Vandies

State of New York County of Cayuga ss
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the Peace of the Town of Mento in the County of Cayuga Denison Robinson of the Town of Mento in said County to me personally known who being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he made out and prepared the preceding affidavit of Weasel Cornue and declaration of Abraham Vandecid and was present at the Court of Com- mon Pleas in & for the County of Cayuga at September Term of said Court when the said Abraham Vandecid presented himself to said Court in compliance with the regulations of the War Department for the purpose of establishing the said Abraham Vandecid to the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7. 1832. And this Deponent further saith that the preceding affi- davit of Weasel Cornue and declaration are in every respect the same without any addition or diminution as when presented except the signature to said Court except the signature of the said Abraham Vandecid to said declaration and the signatures of William Snyder and Rodwell Osturn and the certificate and signature and going seal of the clerk of said Court and that the fore- papers hereto attached with a blue ribbon are the same identical papers which I received personally from said Clerk of said Court that there had been no papers improperly attached to said certificate that the foregoing are the same and none other or different papers or writings or writings than those which passed by the decision of said Court as sufficient to satisfy them that the said Abraham was a revolutionary Soldier and served as he stated — and this Deponent further saith that the impression

Given by the Clerk's Seal upon every sheet except a part of a blank sheet was done by my request by inserting one leaf and laying the whole together so as to receive and give an impression upon the whole when the Seal was applied to the said certificate of the said Clerk of said Court And further this Deponent saith not
part of the word "foregoing" inserted before sworn to Sworn & subscribed before me this 8th day of Jan'y 1838
Denison Robinson
William Minn Justice of the Peace
I certify that I am well acquainted with Denison Robinson Esquire the person who has subscribed and sworn to the above affi- davit and know him to be a credible per- son and that his statements may be relied upon as truth William Minn Justice of the Peace

State of New York County of Cayuga
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a justice of the peace of the town of Minto in the county of Cayuga Abraham Vandec who being duly sworn deposes and saith that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following grades That he served as a private soldier for not less than fourteen days in Captain Bonkers Company in Colonel Wemple's Regiment of Militia in actual service of the United States in the month of June 1779
That he served as a private soldier for not less than twenty one days in Captain Bonkers Company in Colonel Wemple's Regiment of Militia in actual service of the United States in the month of July or August 1779.
That he served as a private soldier for not less than fourteen days in Captain Bonkers Company in Colonel Wemple's Regiment of Militia in actual service of the United States in the month of September 1779.
That he served as a private soldier for not less than two years and nine months in Captain Wemple's Company in Colonel Wemple's Regiment of Militia or Volunteers commencing in the month of August 1780 and terminating in the month of August or September 1783 and being in the actual service of the United States during the last above period of two years and nine months. And this Deponent further saith that while in the above said terms of service he was in actual service for not less than the terms aforesaid.

in the grade aforesaid under Competent Military Authority in embodied corps in the service of the United States
That he served in the whole not less than two years and ten months and nineteen days I served as a private and for such service I claim a pension
And this Deponent further saith besides the afore- said service he was in the service of the United States with the friendly Indians not less than two months as set forth in the original declaration of this Deponent in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832.
And this Deponent further saith that for the names of his Company and Regimental officers and the general history of his services reference may had to the said original declaration of this Deponent and herewith annexed
And this Deponent further saith that he was born in the month of November on the twenty fifth day in the year 1763 at Schenectady then in the County of Albany now Schenectady County in the State of New York - That he had a record of his age in his family Bible and also in the Records of the Dutch Church in Schenectady - That he never received a written discharge from the service of the United States - That he is acquainted with Daniel Molcot Edg Williams Snyder Shaelock Cook Stephen Mosher Joseph Tompson Caleb Pritchard - Read Redwell Osburn who can testify as to my character for veracity and their belief of my services The word "Bontier" "Mino"
Written over and subscribed before Abraham His Vanderboeg clerk
Sworn to Sworn to and subscribed before Me this 8 th day of Jan. 4 1839 William Morris Justice of the Peace

I certify that I am well acquainted with Abraham Van Vrees the person who has subscribed and sworn the foregoing affidavit or amended declaration and I certify that he is a man of unquestioned veracity and that his statements may be relied upon as nothing but the truth and I certify further that I have been acquainted with him for seven or eight years William Miner father of the Dea.
State of New York } Cayuga County } Clerk's office }
I Michael S. Myers, clerk of said County Do certify that the William Miner Esq. before whom the preceding affidavits of Denison Robinson & of Abraham Van Vrees purport to have been sworn & by whom the certificates as to the veracity of the said Robinson & Van Vrees purport to have been given, was on the eighth day of July January 1833 a Justice of the Peace of said county: and that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice & verily that the signature of "William Miner" to said affidavits & certificates is genuine. Witness my hand and seal of Office this 16 th day of January A.D. 1833
M. S. Myers Clerk

11865
Abraham Vansices
admitted 24 no. Private.
5.16
affidavit of terms of service as 2
28 Feb '33 12 Dec 2
Lawson Robinson
Pat Byron
NY P.157.

BRIEF in the case of Abraham Wansices of Conquest in the State of New York (Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Open Court 2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? 3. How old is he? Sixty eight years 4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
    Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.      Called out thru'ly in } In 1777 ————— about (2 weeks) As a Gen. Capt Bonker, Col Wamples   1777 July ————— about 1 same   " — Sep ————— " (2 weeks) same   1779 Oct ————— " 1 same, Col Willet   1780 June ————— over 2   "    Aug ————— to the close of the war in 1783, except about 2 months.   
5. In what battles was he engaged? 6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Schenectady. 7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? A clergyman & Wm. Snyder can testify to traditional evidence. Wm. Cornue a living witness - primary source for 2 years & upwards. 8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
I  Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Stark Examining Clerk.

Robbins
14750
INVALID.
No. 14 750
Abraham Panss
Pr. New Mar.
Act: June 1 th 32
Box:—Vol. 1 , Page 389
[Arrangement of 1876.]