Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R 11145, Jesse Warner, Mass.

SERVICE
Mass
Warner, Jesse
NUMBER
P 11145
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1 st Brief No 4971 Supt. Waver
David McNeil Agent

No 1971  BRIEF in the case of Sylvester Warner of Phelps in the County of Ontario. — in the State of New York (Act 7 June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?
In Open Court.
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he?
84 Years.
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     August In 1777. 2. Sergeant Gen. Capt. Ab. D. Moore Col. Wells.   1781. 4. Quartermaster Col. H. Field.  
5. In what battles was he engaged?
Stillwater.
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service?
Conway Hampshire County. Mass ts
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?
By two living witnesses.
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
They appear to be in due form
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
James Ord Examining Clerk.

Isaac Warner New York Suspended Roll Act of 1832
Power of Attorney To Jas G. Austin
Dec 9-1852
Ex 1/2 J. G. Austin

of the heirs at Law of Leprie Warner deceased Know all men by these presents, That I John Warner Son and one of the county of Ontario and State of New York have constituted and appointed, and by these presents do constitute and appoint James G. Austin of Washington City, my true and lawful attorney, irrevocably for me and in my name to receive from the United States all such sum or sums of money as may be due me on any account whatsoever, and Especially to examine all papers on file at the Pension Office in behalf of my father Leprie Warner deceased, for a pension under the act of 1832 which was suspend ed or rejected
and in my name to execute such receipts and acquittances for the same as may be necessary, and generally to do all lawful acts and things touching the premises; and an attorney or attorneys under him for the purposes aforesaid, to make and at his pleasure to revoke; hereby confirming all and whatsoever my said attorney shall lawfully do or cause to be done in the premises, by virtue of these presents.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 27 th day of October 185 2 .
John Warner
State of New York } to wit: County of Ontario }
On this 27 th day of October 185 2 , John Warner to me known personally appeared before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, and acknowledged the above power of attorney to be his act and deed for the purposes therein expressed
Ulysses Warner J.P.
State of _____ } to wit: County of _____ }
I hereby certify that _____ Esq., before whom the affidavit was made, and who has hereunto subscribed his name, was at the time of so doing in and for the County aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the _____ Court, for the County aforesaid, this _____ day of
, 185_____
Clerk.

State of New York, } ss. Ontario County Clerk's Office, }
I, Reuben Murray, Jr., Clerk of said County, Do Hereby certify, That the annexed Instrument is executed and proved or acknowledged, in due form according to the laws of the State of New York, to entitle it to be recorded therein:
Also, that Wyper Warner Esquire, before whom the same was proved or acknowledged, was at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgement, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly elected, sworn and authorized to take the same. And I further certify,
that I am well acquainted with the hand-writing of the said Justice and verily believe his signature to the said certificate of proof or acknowledgement is genuine.
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said county, this 27th day of Oct A. D. 185 2
Reuben Murray Jr. CLERK.

Jose Warner Declaration
1971
Pastel

STATE OF NEW YORK, Ontario COUNTY. } ss.
ON this Twenty Seventh day of August 1832, personally appears in open court, before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for Said County now sitting
Isaac Warner a resident of Phelps in the county of Ontario and State of New York aged Eighty four years, who being duly sworn according to law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7th, 1832, That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated.
In the month of August 1777 volunteered a Sergeant under the command of Capt. Abel Densmore in Col. Wells Regiment of Massachusetts Militia - resided at this time in Conway, Hampshire County, State of Massachusetts - marched first to Bennington, Vermont but did not arrive until the day after the battle of Bennington, stayed at Bennington but a short time and marched back to the town of Conway, where within about two days he again marched to Stillwater, was in the Battle at Stillwater at the taking of Burgoyne in the month of October of this year during the siege was under Col. Wells - was in actual service from the commencement at Bennington until the taking of Burgoyne, two months - That in the year 1781 in the month of April he raised a company of teams 18 or twenty in number, assisted by a Mr. Densmore, the Company of teams was raised by order of Col. Hatfield of the Connecticut line, (resided at this time in Conway aforesaid) the Company of teams was raised for the purpose of joining the Army at Peekskill - Mr. Densmore first took the charge of the Company of teams for three months, after that he, this deponent, took the charge of them as conductor, at Peekskill about the first of August in the year 1781 and kept the charge of them four months, at the end of which time in the month of November he received a written discharge from Col. Hatfield who was then Col. of the Forage department, and returned honor said discharge he has since lost, about the 1 st of December of this year That during his service in this campaign, three of his best teams were pressed by order of Genl. Washington to go with the army in pursuit of Cornwallis, which three teams were never returned. That he was born in the year 1748 in Belchertown, County of Hampshire, State of Massachusetts, resided after the war at Conway, County of Hampshire, State of Massachusetts until the year 1796, when he emigrated to Phelps, in the County of Ontario and State of New York where he has since resided. That he has no documentary evidence of service but is acquainted with Isaac Munsden who knew him when in the service at the taking of Burgoyne and at Bennington and also is acquainted with Elijah Warner who knew him at the time he was raising the company of teams, and knows of his being out with the teams and will certify to the same.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
in Open Court, Charles Crane, Clerk.
Isaac Warner

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
in Open Court, Charles Crane, Clerk.
Jesse Warner
I Isaac Amadon of Seneca, County of Ontario & State of New York do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Jesse Warner whose name is subscribed to the foregoing declaration, that he well knew him when in the army in the year 1777 was with him at the Battle of Bennington and at the taking of B. - ay - gne and that according to the best of his recollection that he the said Jesse, served during that campaign a term not less than two months -
Isaac Amadon
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid
in Open Court,
Charles Crane Clerk
I Elijah Warner of Phelps, County of Ontario & State of New York do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Jesse Warner whose name is subscribed to the foregoing declaration, that he well knew him at the time he was raising a company of teams in the year 1780 and know of his being out with the said teams a term according to the best of his recollection not less than four months and believe the declaration made by the said Jesse to be correct -
Elijah Warner
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
in Open Court, Charles Crane, Clerk
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named Applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states, and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Isaac Amadon who has signed the preceding certificate is a resident in the town of Seneca county & State aforesaid and that Elijah Warner who has also signed the same is a resident of Phelps, County & State aforesaid and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Charles Crane -- Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas aforesaid hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Jesse Warner -- -- -- for a Pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this Twenty-Seventh day of August A.D. 1832.
Charles Crane

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Jesse Turner a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Aug. 1777 2 mos. Sergt. Phil Dunsmore Wills Mass.   1781 4 mos. Conductor Stofford   Team      
Battles engaged in, Stillwater
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Granby Hampshire Co. Mass.
Date of application for pension, Aug. 27. 1852
Residence at date of application, Phelps Ontario Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, born in 1748 in Belchertown Hampshire Co. Mass.
Remarks: son John referred to his father as not being alive Oct. 27. 1852. There is no other data on file as to his family. The claim was rejected on the ground that soldier did not render 6 mos military service as required by the pension law. Team service not considered military.  Respectfully, _____.
Commissioner.

Get-stand W. G. Wood 23 Orchard Street W. Greenfield - Mass
Bureau of Pensions - World
you let me know if there was a list of Revolutionary Pensioners published in connection with the Census of 1830 - or previous to that year.
I am looking for text names -

Jesse Warner who died in Orleans (Phelps) Ontario Co. New York. Aug. 14-1834 Also.
Jesse Warner who died in Hunsdale - Mass.
May 10-1793.
If you cannot give me this information would you tell me where I can get it - Thanking you -
Yours Truly
Mrs. K. H. Weissbrod Nov. 6-

1702 Rev.
Nov. 7, 1921.
Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Will you kindly send me a statement of the military history of CONSIDER WARNER who served in the Revolutionary War in Capt. Elijah Deming's detachment from Col. Ashley's regiment? Entering service, June 4, 1778. Also the history of his brother, JESSE WARNER, who is listed, R. III 45, in pensioners of Massachusetts and Connecticut who served in Rev. War.
Very truly yours,
Julia M. Moyer.
Mrs J.B.Moyer, 3322 Lombard Ave., Everett, Washington.

Pension Office Aug. 9. 1854,
Sir
You do not give the name of the pensioner to whom you refer. I can not therefore, give you any information as desired. When you write again refer to the date of this letter.
I am respectfully Your Ob t Servt. S. Gale Acting Commissioner.
A. J. Wilkin Esq. Brookport N.Y.
Jesse Warner
Sir - I am receipt of your letter above the day I supposed I had sent the name in my letter - It is - Jesse Warner - he resides at this place - Aug 15 th 1854 A. J. Wilkin - Please give your earliest attention to it -

Ms Brief
No 7971
Sister Warner
Rejected
Team service
not allowed
The other insufficient
letter to Henry R. Selden Clarkson N.Y. July 10. 1833 which was written in answer to an enquiry respecting another Sister Warner.
David McNeil Agent, Phelps.
11145

No 7971
BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of
Sylvia Warner  which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?
Yes.
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?
Yes.
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?
Yes.
V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?
Yes.
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?
Yes.
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?
Yes.
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?
Yes.
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
Yes.
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
No.

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. † If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility?
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office?
Yes.
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
Yes.
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
Yes.
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
No V.
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For _____ year _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.
QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

free J. L. Edwards Esq Com. of Pensions Washington D. C.

Dr Sir
Some time in October last I sent directed the Secretary of War the application of Jesse Warner for a pension - The papers were made out previous to the last act and returned for want of proof of his services - He afterwards procured the proof and I returned his application with the proof together with the application of several other persons under the last act - I have heard from all of them except Mr Warner's. Please inform me what has been done with his papers and whether his claim can be allowed without new papers. If it cannot please return the papers sent and I will endeavor to prepare his application according to the forms prescribed by the Department under the last act -
Very Respectfully Your Ob t Serv t
J. L. Edward Esq. ~ Henry R. Selden Com r of Pensions ~
Clarkson Morris Co.
New York
7971 rejected

H. J. Wilkm
Aug 24/57.

Pension Office Aug 24. 1857
Sir
In answer to your inquiry I have to inform you that Jese Warner, of Ontario County, N. York, applied for a pension in 1832, alleging that he served two months in the militia and four months in the team service; and that this last service was performed under Col. Hatfield of the Connecticut Line, who he said was in the forage department, in the year 1781.
As this last service was not considered to be military, and the militia service was not of sufficient duration to entitle to a pension, his claim was rejected; and so remains.
A. J. Wilkin Esq P Brockport N. York.

1921 Nov. 28. Hist. to Mrs. J. B. Mayer. 1922 Dec. 5 History to Mrs. W. H. Weissbrod aut.
REJECTED
11.14.0?
P. O. _____
Service: _____
1-0
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: List of rejected claims printed in 1832 shows
Re-enlisted: Cause of rejection as follows: "Team service not entitled."
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

Letter to A. J. Wilkin Aug. 24. 1854
Jesse Warner New York
Rejected see letter to D. McNeil Phelps - N.Y.
Set 7. June 1832 Revo: