Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 15,684, Allen Turner, Continental Mass.

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Continental Mass.
Turner, Allen
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Ohio Pitts 7/4/43 1475 + Albany  Albany
Allen Turner
of Oneida in the State of New York who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Carpenter of the Regt. commanded by Col. Jackson in the campaign for Ld. Mv.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 11 day of May 1832 and sent to J. R. Baker Pm. Whitesboro
Arrears to the 14th of March 1833 $160.00 Semi-ant. allowance ending Septm 160.00
$200.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. L. Williams Clerk, Book Vol. 4 Page 32
See Cir. Trans. - July 27. '35 To Ohio Pitts. g. from 4. May 1835 - Aug. 3. '35
Date of search not on file.

14.757 Allen Turner onia a 6 c Nyak
Rolls, Col. Lee's Reg. Nov 18 '78 - 3 years
admitted. 24 mos Private.
26 Baker P.M. Whitestown N.Y.

BRIEF in the case of Allen Turner of Oneida Co. in the State of New York (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? on in Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 76 years  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days. As a Gen.     Feb'y - In 1777 3 - - - Private Capt Burney Col. Jackson   Aug 1781 3 - " Capt Carpenter Col. Jackson   Nov 1776 1 " Capt Hott Gen. Spencer  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Rehoboth Mass.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Documenting his discharge -  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Papers not attach'd as req'd 
I certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Richard Lottis Examining Clerk.

The State of Ohio Geauga County ss.
On this Eight day of July 1835. before the subscriber a Justice of the peace in and for the said County, personally appeared Allen Turner who on his oath declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the Company commanded by Captain J. Barney, afterwards by Major Prescott in the regiment commanded by Col. Henry Jackson in the service of the United States & that his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of New York, (whence he has lately removed) at the rate of Eighty dollars per annum. That he now resides in the town of Troy, County of Geauga & State of Ohio in the Pittsburgh agency where he intends to remain & wishes his pension to be there payable in future. His reason for removing from Whitestown in Oneida County & State of New York to Troy in Geauga County, Ohio is that he had a son living there with whom he wished to reside. Sworn to and subscribed this day and year aforesaid before me
Allen Turner
Howard Beall Justice of the Peace
over

The State of Ohio } Franklin County } 3
Edward B. Turner of Eddy in said County, of Lawful age, being duly sworn, on his said oath declares that he is well acquainted with Allen Turner who has subscribed and sworn to the foregoing affidavit & knows him to be the same person therein described, & who has lately removed from the State of New York & who now has in his possession a pension certificate for Eighty dollars per annum, dated at the War office May 11 1833. Numbered 14143 & signed by Lew. Cass secretary of war —
Edward B. Turner
Sworn & subscribed before me
this eight th day of July 1835
Alward Beals Justice of the Peace And I the above magistrate whose signature is above written do hereby certify that I am acquainted with Edward B. Turner the witness who has sworn to & subscribed the above affidavit & know him to be a person of truth & veracity, given under my hand the day & year above written.
Alward Beals Justice of the Peace

The State of Ohio Geauga County
I, D. Aiken, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for said County do hereby certify that Alvah Beals Es- quire, before whom the foregoing affidavits appear to have been taken, on the eighth day of July A. D. 1835, was at that time, and still is a Justice of the peace, within and for said County, duly commissioned, and sworn, according to law: and fur- ther, that I am well acquainted with the hand-writ- ing of the said Justice, and do verily believe the foregoing the foregoing signatures purporting to be his are true and genuine.
In Testimony whereof, I hereunto set my hand and affix the seal of said Court at Chardon this 11th day of July A. D. 1835.
D. Aiken, Clerk.

Allen Turners
for ...

Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of the 7 th of June 1832
State of New York } ss On this eleventh day of Sep- Oneida County } tember 1832 personally appeared before the Court of Common Pleas in & for the Coun- ty of Oneida & State of New York after said Allen Turner a resident of the Town of Whites- town in the County of Oneida and State of New York aged seventy - years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7 1832. That he enlisted in the army of the United States in the year 1777 in the month of February with Captain Iabes Barney and served in the Massachusetts regiment though it was not numbered Massachusetts Line under the following named officers
Captain Iabes Barney commanded the Com- pany. Matthew Barney was the adjutant sergeant  Joseph Barney cant collect the other officers
Colonel Henry Jackson commanded the regiment. Colonel Cobb was Lieutenant Colonel first & resigned & William Smith was afterwards appointed one Prescott was the Major the adjutant's name was Lovell That he left the service on the 15 th day of Feb- ruary 1780 & received a written discharge bearing date on that day & signed by Colonel Henry Jackson which he has kept in his pos- session ever since & which is hereto annexed marked A. That on the same day he received a Certificate or receipt of the same date signed by T. Morris Condor Quartermaster

in relation to his Gun Bayonet & accoutrements cartridges & flints which is also hereunto an- nexed marked 'B.'
That he enlisted at Rehoboth in the County of Bristol in the State of Massachusetts where his place of residence was during the revolutionary War, that he afterwards marched to Boston & after staying there a time he marched to White Plains, that he afterwards marched to Rhode Island & was in General Sullivan's expedi- tion & marched to Morristown in the State of New Jersey where he was honorably dischar- ged having served the full period of his enlistment viz three years & received his discharge as above mentioned.
That he was acquainted with Captain Barn- Home, Croft, Hobbey, Thomas Turner, Lieut. Mitchell & Turner all of which belonged to the said three years service.
That in the year 1781 in the month of August he volunteered for the term of three months at Rehoboth aforesaid in the Militia, the name of the Captain he can not recollect, but it his impression that Nathaniel Carpenter who was afterwards a major was the Captain at the time he enlisted volunteered. That Jonathan Barney was the orderly sergeant the other officers he does not recollect.
That he was honorably discharged at Nest Point hav- ing served the full period of his time viz three months & received a written discharge signed

by Nathaniel Carpenter, Major Commandant by Colonel Michael Jackson dated dated at West Point Nov. 8 th 1781 & which has been in his possession ever since & is hereto annexed marked D. That he left the service at that time & returned to Rehoboth
That in 1776 (in November he thinks) he was a substitute for one Donald Ide who had been drafted that he was in the company common -ded by Capt. Hill in Gen. Spencer's expedition & was not at this time one month, in Rhode Island and was in the service at this time about one month. That he marched to New Port Rhode Island where he was dismissed
That he removed from Rehoboth to Putney State of Vermont & resided there about five years & then removed to the Town of Argyle County of Washington & State of New York & re- sided there until the year 1799 when he removed to the Town of Milers Town in the County of Medina & State of New York where he has ever since resided
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of any any state
Sworn to & subscribed, the day & year aforesaid? Allen Green Joseph B Read Dep. Clerk
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he stated By the Court C. Hayden, first pres.

I George Brown Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Oneida do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Allen Turner for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this Eleventh day of September 1832.
Geo Brown Clerk

State of New York } ss George W Turner of Whitestown County Oneida County } affiant being duly sworn says that he is the son of the above named Allen Turner is of the age of thirty four years & resides with his father & has resided with him nearly all his life that he always understood & believed his father was a soldier in the army of the revolution in the manner stated in his foregoing declaration, that the particular time or distance of time when this deponent first saw the annexed discharges & re- ceipt he can pretend to be entirely positive about, but he is certain that he saw them in his father's possession at least fifteen years since, that he has ever since his age was such that he could remem- ber any thing with distinctness heard his father state, & always talked of in the family that he was a soldier in the army of the revolution & has also always heard it said & understood by him & the rest of the family that he had his discharges which this deponent believes & has no doubt whatever are the same hereto annexed George W Turner
Before me Uriah Stevens the Justice of the peace above named personally appeared George W Turner men- tioned in & who subscribed the foregoing affidavit & being by me duly sworn made oath that the facts set forth in the foregoing affidavit by him subscribed are true & I further certify that I am well acquainted with said George W Turner & that he is a man of truth & integrity in whose testimony full reliance can be placed Given under my hand this 3 rd day of July 1852 Uriah Stevens Justice of the peace

State of New York Clerk's Office
Albany County ss I George Brown Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Uriah Stearns Esq before whom the within affidavit was to have been sworn was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace in and for said County and duly authorized by Law to act as such and that am well acquainted with his handwriting and truly believe the signature of Uriah Stearns subscribed to the same to be his proper hand writing and signature
Witness my hand and seal of Office at the City of Utica this Tenth day of July A 1832
Geo. Brown Clerk

Allen Turner
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To the Honb: Court of Common Pleas - Oneida Co. Gentlemen
Mr. Allen Turner of Piskany thinks it may be important for some of his neighbours to certify as to his Character - As he intends making an application, in which his credibility will have to be received - We the Subscribers have known Mr. Turner many years - and cheerfully state that we consider him a highly respectable man - and worthy of perfect confidence - Piskany June 14. 1832
J. Newton Deyo Isaac Northrop J. M. C. Balis

2 nd March Morris Town Feb y . 15. 1700
This may Certify that Mr Sumner has turn'd over to me his Gun - Bayonet and Accoutrements Complate - with forty Cartridges & two Flints
Witness my hand & Seal

December 26, 1933
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Allen Turner-S.15684
BA-J/AWF
Mr. Robert O. Turner Hiram College, Warren Branch 210 High Street, N. W. Warren, Ohio
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Allyn Turner of Rehoboth, near Stamford, Connecticut.
The data furnished herein were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S.15684, based upon the Revolutionary War service of Allen Turner, as his signature appears in the claim.
The date and place of his birth are not shown in the claim, nor are the names of his parents given.
While residing at Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, Allen Turner enlisted in November, 1776 and served one month in Captain Hill's Massachusetts company. He enlisted in February, 1777 and served in Captain Jabez Barney's company, was in Spen- cer's and Sullivan's Expeditions, and was discharged February 15, 1780, from Colonel Henry Jackson's regiment. He enlisted in August, 1781 and served in Captain Nathaniel Carpenter's company, Colonel Drury's regiment, and was discharged, November 8, 1781.
He moved from Rehoboth to Poultney, Vermont, where he lived about five years, thence to Argyle, New York, living there until 1799, when he moved to Whitestown, Oneida County, New York.
Allen Turner was allowed pension on his application executed, September 11, 1832, then aged seventy

years and still living in Whitestown, New York. His son, George W. Turner, was thirty-four years of age in 1832 and living in said Whitestown.
The soldier, Allen Turner, in 1835 had moved to Troy, Geauga County, Ohio, to live with a son. One, Edward B. Turner in 1835 was residing in Troy, Ohio; his relationship to the soldier not stated.
There are no further data in this claim relative to the family of Allen Turner.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

Allen Turner
alb. St. Louis to Ohio State P.P.
Edwards Ags Comr of Pensions Washington

Chardon Geauga Co Ohio July 18. 1835.
Mr. Turner, whose application for a transfer is enclosed, wishes to have his transfer made in season for drawing on the 1 st of September next.
Very respectfully Edwin F. Phelps
J. S. Edwards Esq. Comm ee of Pensions

Allen Turner

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Ellen Turner  one a 6  N York which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? 14 II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? 14 V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? 14 VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? 14 VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? 14 VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? 14 IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? 14 X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? 14

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? p. 1
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? ..
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? 121
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? 1. 2
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 1 2 5 7
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

P. 15684 INVALID.
File No. 15684 Allen Turner Br Rev War
Act: June 7 th 82
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 381
[Arrangement of 1870.]

May 20. 1897 History - to Miss Martha J. Burrows 33 - Exchange Building - Duluth, Minn.
1917 Feb 14 Hist. to Mr. W. C. Smith
1920 Mar 31 " " Eva P. Moffatt
Letter sent to Record Div for reply to Civil War request card
1933 Dec 26. Hist. to
Robert E. Turner - card

This Bureau can furnish the military record of only such Revolutionary soldiers as were pensioned or whose widows were pensioned for their services.
Such of the original muster and pay rolls of the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 as are now in the possession of the Government are on file in the Record and Pension Office, War Department. Original rolls and other records pertaining to service in the Revolutionary War may also be found on file in the archives of many of the original States.
L. W. B. I. 15684.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
WASHINGTON, D. C.,
O. W. & N. DIV.
REVOLUTIONARY.
May 20, 1897.
Madam:-
Replying to your request for information concerning Allen Turner, a soldier of the Revolutionary war, you are advised that he made an application for pension on September 11, 1832, at which time he was 70 years of age and residing in Oneida County, N. Y., and his pension was allowed for two years' actual service as a private in the Mass. troops, Revolutionary war; a part of the time he served under Capt. Carpenter and Col. Jackson. He enlisted at Rehoboth, Mass.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.
Miss Martha J. Burrows,
33 Exchange Building,
Duluth, Minn.

OFFICE OF SWALLOW & HOPKINS, PINE LANDS, LOGS AND LUMBER.
DULUTH OFFICE, 33 EXCHANGE BUILDING. MILWAUKEE WIS., OFFICE, 254 ONEIDA ST.
Duluth Minn, Apr. 27. 1897.
Commissioner of Pensions.
Washington D. C.
Sir
P J
Can you, from the records you have, give me any information concerning a Revolutionary soldier named Allen (or Allyn) Turner . I would like to know from what state he enlisted , in what regiment he served, length of service etc.
All the positive information I can give you, is that for years before he died, in 1852, he drew a pension at Hiram, Portage Co. Ohio.
He was born in 1761- enlisted, was shipwrecked, taken prisoner by an English man of war, taken to England, escaped, or was exchanged, & returned to America. but we have no other knowledge.
If you can give me any information, or can advise me in the matter, I shall be glad.
Yours respfully. Martha J. Burrows. 33 Exch. Bldg.

Jamerville Wis. Feby 5-1917 Bureau of Pensions. Rev Sec
Please send me the Revolutionary Record of Allan Turner I do not know from where he enlisted but the later years of his life he spent in Ohio. and I know he rec'd a pension.
Also if there is any record of Eben Black as a Revolutionary Soldier

I should like that record also. He probably enlisted from New York if in the War.
I shall be very greatly obliged, for these. Yours Truly
Soule
Mrs. A. E. Soule 525 N. Washington St. Janesville Wis

After 5 days, return to HIRAM COLLEGE, Warren Branch, 210 High Street, N. W., WARREN, OHIO.
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR
HIRAM COLLEGE WARREN BRANCH WARREN, OHIO Dec. 7, 1933
Pension Bureau, War Department, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs,
I am trying to determine the record and the ancestry of one Allyn Turner.
According to the information which I have, Allyn Turner was born at Rehoboth, near Stamford, Conn., in 1761. He entered the service of the Revolutionary Army as a private soldier. The regiment is not known. During the latter part of his life he received a pension.
I would appreciate it very much if you will supply me with such infor- mation as you may have.
Thank you sincerely for your kind assistance,
Very truly yours,
Robert C. Turner

AWP/HLM
March 31, 1930.
Eva L. Moffatt 59 Brighton Avenue Allston Massachusetts.
Dear Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 15684, it appears that Allen Turner, while residing at Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, enlisted in November 1776 and served one month in Captain Hill's Massachusetts Company.
He enlisted in February 1777 and served until February 15, 1780 as a private in Captain Jabez Barney's Company, Colonel Henry Jackson's Regiment and was in Spencer's and Sullivan's expeditions.
He enlisted in August 1781 and served until November 8, 1781 in Captain Nathaniel Carpenter's Company Colonel Drury's Massachusetts Regiment.
The soldier moved from Rehoboth to Poultney, Vermont, living there five years, thence to Argyle, New York, living there until 1799 when he moved to Whitestown, Oneida County, New York.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 11, 1832, at which time he was residing at Whitestown, New York and was aged seventy years. In 1832 his son, George W., was aged thirty-four years and was living at Whitestown.
In 1835 the soldier was residing at Troy, Geauga County, Ohio, with his son. Edward B. Turner, residing in Troy, Ohio, testified in the case in 1835. No relationship shown.
Your letter has been forwarded to the proper division of this bureau for reply relative to McClow Cox who, you state, was a soldier in the Civil War.
Very truly yours,
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner.
Letter to Record Division

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
L. 7 15-684
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Allen Turner a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Aug. 1776 1 mo Pvt. James Hill Henry Jackson   July 1777 July 15-1780 Nathaniel Carfinkel Drury Mass.   Aug. 1781 Nov 8-1781                                     
Battles engaged in, Brandywine and Saratoga Expeditions Residence of soldier at enlistment, Rehoboth, Bristol Co. Mass. Date of application for pension, Sept 11, 1832 His ch. was al. Residence at date of application, Whitestown, Oneida Co. N.Y. Age at date of application, 70 yrs
Remarks: In 1832 Son George W. aged 34 years, lived at Whitestown N.Y. Soldier moved from Rehoboth to Poultney Vt. living there some time. Thence to Argyle N.Y. there until 1799, thence to Whitestown N.Y. and in 1835 was residing at Troy, Geauga Co. Ohio to be with his son, whose name is not stated.
Respectfully, Edward B. Turner as Secy - Ohio  testified in the case in 1835 Commissioner.

Allen Turner S.F. 15684 Mass.

P Allen turned Soldier Col. George. Regt. Militia is discharged the Service having served the term of three Months according to a resolution of the Common wealth of Mass ts of June 30 th 91
The Spring Committee is now in full service you with Permission on your third home Nath l Carpenter Major Genl
West Point 11 th mo. 9 th 1792
M c Laughlin Col o

The term of three Years for which Allen formed a Soldier in my Regiment engaged to serve the United States having expired this day, he is hereby honorably discharged.
Given Under my hand at Camp Morristown Tenn 15. 1780
J. H. M c Call Colonel