Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11840, Albert L Vedder, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Vedder, Albert L.
S. 11840
CONTENTS
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New York 3791
Albert L Vedder
of Montgomery in the State of N Y who was a private in the Comp y . commanded by Captain Bothout of the Brig. commanded by Col Wemple in the New York line for 2 years
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of Eighty Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 27. day of April 1833 and sent to Giles S Yates. Seneca Falls N.Y.
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $ 160. 00 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sep 1833 . 40. 00
$ 200 —
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by George Taylor Clerk, Book 6, Vol. 4, Page 34

N o 12459 Albert L. Wedder
G. F. Yates Schenectady N.Y.

BRIEF in the case of  Albert L. Vedder  County of Montgomery in the State of N.Y.  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 72  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     1775 Oct. enrolled in the Militia for during the war   In 1776 — 4 — drifter Gen. M'Nair, Capt. Coghout   "77 — 5 — d o Vrooman & Mynderse   "78 — 2 — d o Capt last mentioned   after this in various calls time not recollected    N.B. It is very certain that during the war he served two years & six months
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Schenectady  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Depositions & tradition  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Levin Bolt Examining Clerk.

Montg y Co: Court
In the matter of the application of Albert L. Vedder for a pension —
Proceedings &c
12.450
N o 12
To the care of
Giles H. York
Schenectady N.Y.

State of New-York } County of Montgomery } ss.
On this nineteenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & thirty two, personally appeared in open Court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County now sitting, Albert L. Wedder , a resident of the town of Root in said County, aged seventy-two years and upwards, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832.
He was born in the then township, now City of Schenectady in said State on the 28 th day of October 1759. His age is recorded in the Register of Baptisms in possession of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church in the City of Schenectady.
When called into the service of the United States in the revolutionary war, he was living in said township; since the revolutionary war he has lived in the town of Princetown in the County of Schenectady in said State, and he now resides in said town of Root.
He entered said service in the month of October in the year 1775 - was then enrolled in the Company of Militia in his beat, being the Company of Captain Abraham Oothout in the Regiment whereof Abraham Wemple was Colonel. His other Company and field officers whom he recollects, were John Roseboom first Lieutenant, Nicholas Barheydt second Lieutenant, Cornelius Z. Van Santvoord Ensign - Abraham Swits Major.

He served in this company till the spring of the year 1776, when he enlisted for the term of four months, and served out said term of four months in the company of artificers commanded by Captain Jacob Vrooman. During his service in this company he was employed in erecting military works of defence, & building gun-boats & storehouses &c for the use of the American army, at Tienderoga landing, at Fort George, Skeneateborough and Saratoga -
In the spring of the year 1777, he again entered the company of said Captain Oothout, and served therein till the end of the war, except during one expedition when he was under the command of Captain John Mynderse. He was with the troops under Generals Schuyler & Gates from the summer of the year 1777, during the retreat of General Schuyler from Fort Edward until the surrender of Burgoyne. The term of his service in this campaign was about five months
In the fall of the year 1778 he was drafted to go with a detachment of militia from said Company to Fort Paris in Stone Arabia. He remained on duty at this fort for a longer period than he was drafted for, to wit for the term of two months. In the year 1779, he was on duty at Schoharie, and went from thence to Cobleskill immediately after its destruction by the enemy. In the spring of the year 1780 he was on duty at Fort Hunter at the time Caughnawaga, and other settlements on the Mohawk river were devastated by the enemy.
In the summer of the year 1779, he

He served in this company till the spring of the year 1776, when he enlisted for the term of four months, and served out said term of four months in the company of artificers commanded by Captain Jacob Vrooman. During his service in this company he was employed in erecting military works of defence, & building gun-boats & storehouses &c for the use of the American army, at Tienderoga landing, at Fort George, Skeneateborough and Saratoga -
In the spring of the year 1777, he again entered the company of said Captain Oothout , and served therein till the end of the war, except during one expedition when he was under the command of Captain John Myn- derse. He was with the troops under Generals Schuyler & Gates from the summer of the year 1777, during the retreat of General Schuyler from Fort Edward until the surrender of Burgoyne . The term of his service in this campaign was about five - months
In the fall of the year 1778 he was drafted to go with a detachment of militia from said Company to Fort Paris in Stone Arabia. He remained on duty at this fort for a longer period than he was drafted for, to wit for the term of two months. In the year 1779, he was on duty at Schoharie, and went from thence to Cobleskill immediately after its destruction by the enemy. In the spring of the year 1780 he was on duty at Fort Hunter at the time Caughnawaga, and other settlements on the Mohawk river were devastated by the enemy.
In the summer of the year 1779, he

2 was with the troops that rendezvoused at Fort Plain. At the time Panajoharrie was burned by the Indians and their tory associates, he was ordered over to Fort Plank and remained there a short time. He has also performed sentinel duty at Schenectady, and on other occasions besides those before named at Fort Edward ——— fort Hunter, fort Plank, fort Paris & the upper fort at Schoharrie. The exposed state of the Country was such, that the enemy made incursions in every quarter, and stockade forts and block houses were erected at different posts and passes along the frontier. He took his turn of service in guarding these: but in those days of constant alarm and anxiety, & not anticipating that at some future day a specification of the particular periods of his services might be required, he did not charge his memory therewith; and it is now entirely out of his power to give such specification. He can only declare that during the said war, he faithfully served his country for a period in the whole exceeding two years & six months.
The following are the names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops where he served and whom he knew, and the continental & militia Regiments or Companies which he recollects: viz— Col: Christopher C. Yates, Adjutant John Lansing, General Ganservoort & Companies under his command, Colonel Goosen Van Schaick Colonel Dayton.
He has no documentary evidence, but can produce the testimony of witnesses who can testify to his services, or a part thereof, and the more particularly from

whose Depositions are hereunto annexed.
He never received any discharge from the service (in writing). The following are the names of persons residing in his neighbourhood who can testify as to his character for veracity & their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution: viz - Henry F. Yates & John Bartlett Lunt.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, & declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the Agency of any State.
Subscribed & sworn the } Albert L. Sedder day & year first aforesaid } Geo: D. Ferguson Clerk

We Henry F. Yates & John Bartlett Swart residing in the town of Root in said county of Montgomery, residents of the town of
As to the facts aforesaid, do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Albert L. Vedder who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration: that we believe him to be Seventy two years of age, that he is reputed and believed in this neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Subscribed and sworn to the day and year aforesaid
Henry F. Yates John Bartlett Swart Geo: D. Ferguson, Clerk.
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary sol- dier and served as he states. — And the court further certifies that Henry F. Yates who signed the above certificate is a resident of the town of Root in said County of Montgomery that there is no clergyman resident in the vicinity of said applicant and further that John Bartlett Swart, who also signed said certificate is a resident of the town of Root aforesaid that they are both credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I George D. Ferguson Clerk of said Court, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said court in the matter of the application of Albert L. Vedder for a Pension — In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this Nineteenth day of September, one thousand eight hundred and thirty two — Geo: D. Ferguson
memos said court more particularly from

County of Schenectady ss.
Cornelius Van Dyck of the town of Rotterdam in said County being duly sworn and examined doth depose and say, that he is well acquainted with Albert L. Vedder of the town of Root in the County of Montgomery the same person referred to and described in the annexed certificate of Cornelius Z. Van Santvoord that he this Deponent knew said Albert L. Vedder in the time of the revolutionary war, & knows that he was a private in a company of militia commanded by Captain Abraham Dothout in the Regiment whereof Abraham Wemple was Colonel from the year One thousand seven Hundred & seventy-eight until the termination of said war - he is moreover certified that said Albert served in said Regiment previous to the year last named but in what company he served, or how long he served therein this Deponent cannot say - that this Deponent served with him the said Albert as a private in said Company from the year one thousand seven Hundred & seventy-eight until the end of said war as aforesaid - that this Deponent was out with him the said Albert in nearly all the expeditions & at the different military forts & passes in the declaration of said Albert mentioned, to wit, at Schenectady, Ballston Caughnawaga Fort Hunter, Cobleskill, Schoharie, Fort Plain Fort Plank & Fort Paris - this Deponent remembers said Albert more particularly from

The circumstance of his being a near neighbour of said Albert, and their being always ordered out together -
{ Note the word "annexed" written or razure before execution }
Subscribed & sworn this 12 th day of Aug t 1832 } Cornelius Van Dyck before me James V Ryley Judge Schenectady county courts }
I, James V Ryley, before whom the preceding deposition of Cornelius Van Dyck has been taken, do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with said Cornelius Van Dyck and know him to be a man of character & veracity & that his statements are entitled to the fullest credit. Schenectady Aug t 12 th 1832
James V Ryley Judge

County of Schenectady
Bartholemew Schermerhorn of the town of Rotterdam in said County being duly sworn and examined, doth depose and say that he was during the revolutionary war & is now well acquainted with Albert L. Vedder of the town of Root in the County of Montgomery, an applicant for a pension under the act of 7. June 1832, that said Albert L. Vedder belonged to the same militia Company with this Deponent during said war, to wit the Company of Captain Abraham Oothout in Colonel Abraham Wemple's Regiment - that this Deponent was out in several military expeditions with said Albert L. Vedder, but when & on what occasions, this Deponent cannot recollect, yet remembers distinctly to have seen him at Ballston when said town of Ballston was burnt by the British and Indians -
Subscribed & Sworn } Bartl W Schermerhorn this 15- Aug t 1832 before me W m Strong J.P.
I William Strong before whom the foregoing deposition of Bartholemew Schermerhorn was was sworn is well known to me to be a man of character & veracity, & that his statements are entitled to the fullest credit. Aug t 15 1832. W m Strong J.P.
W. L. Vedder

County of Schenectady ss
I, Cornelius L.
Van Santvoord late an Ensign in the company of Militia commanded by Captain Abraham Oothout in the Regiment whereof Abraham Wemple was Colonel, do hereby certify that I was in the time of the revolutionary war & am now well acquainted with Albert L. Vedder the same person referred to in the preceding deposition of Bartholemew Schermerhorn - that said Albert L. Vedder was enrolled in said Company in the fall of the year One thousand seven hundred & seventy-five, and except during the year 1776, when said Albert enlisted & served in a company of Artificers, he remained a member of said Company of A. Oothout during the whole of said war & discharged all his duties therein with fidelity - he served with me in several campaigns to wit to Fort Edward, Fort Miller, Saratoga, Fort Plank, Fort Plain, Poughkeepsie and Fort Paris, as well as other campaigns in the declaration of said Albert L. Vedder mentioned.
I have read and sworn before me this 7th day of September 1832 Wm Strong J.P.
Corn. L. Van Santvoord
William Strong Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Schenectady do hereby certify that I have well understood the contents of the foregoing affidavit of Cornelius Van Santvoord and believe the same to be true to the best of my knowledge and belief.
Wm Strong J.P.
I, John S. Vrooman Clerk of said County of Schenectady, do hereby certify that James V.S. Ryley, before whom the foregoing affidavit of Cornelius Van

Dyck purports to have been sworn, was at the date of the same one of the judges of the County Courts in and for said County & that his name subscribed to said affidavit is his own proper handwriting and signature and I further certify that William Strong before whom the preceding affidavits of Bartholemew Schormerkorn & Cornelius Z. Van Santwoord were sworn, was at the respective dates of the same, one of the Justices of the Peace in & for said County, and sincerely believe his name subscribed to the same, to be his proper handwriting & signature.
Witness my hand & seal of office this Eleventh day of September One Thousand eight Hundred & Thirty-two.
John S. Vrooman clerk

Reuben
11840
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File No. 11840
Albert L. Wedder Wedder Priv. Rev. War.
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. 9 , Page 413
[Arrangement of 1870.]

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Albert L. Nueder which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Supplied
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. †If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? yes
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? yes
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes
XVI. ‡Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.