Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 16,573, John West, Va.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
West, John
S 16573
Carded.
CONTENTS

Died Aug. 14, 1833
13865 Indiana 13865
John West of Lipcomb in the State of Indiana who was a private in the Company command by Captain Thomas of the regiment command by Col. Davis in the Virginia line for 2 years
Inscribed on the Roll of Indiana at the rate of 80 Dollars 62 1/2 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 29 day of June 1833 and Serials 6 Cushing Madison
Arrears to the 4th of March  160.00 Semi-ann. allowance ending 1 Sept  40.00 $200
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Daniel Boyd Clerk Book 6 Vol. 7 Page 134

6825. John West's Declaration
306.46 1436.22 240.00 168.60 300.00 2451 28

State of Indiana County of Jefferson ss On this 3 rd day of September 1832 per- sonally appeared before the Circuit Court of the County of Jefferson aforesaid, John West aged a resident in the County and State aforesaid aged 84 years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832 that he enlisted in the army of the United States in the year 1780 with Capt Mark Thomas and served in the Virginia State troops under the following named officers. Cap t Mark Thomas - Cap t Benjamin Roberts - Lieut al Rob t Saunders & Major Slaughter left in the the service month of October 1782 - lived in Spotsylvania County Virginia - Marched from Culpeper County to Stanton Red Stone - then down the river to the Falls of the Ohio then got a furlough to go home - & served the remainder of his term of enlistment at Richmond under Col. William Davis - He hereby relin- quishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension roll of any agency in any State -
Sworn to, and Subscribed, the day and year aforesaid
John West
{Seal}
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion that the fore named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served

as he states
M. C. Eggleston Not. Pub.   D. Blackmore Elmer Gull
J. R. C. Tabbott Clerk of the Court aforesaid, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John West for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 3 rd day of September 1832
State of Indiana Jefferson County 3 Personally appeared before me the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace within and for the County and State aforesaid John West who being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the period mentioned below, and in the following grade. For two years I served as a private Soldier; and for such service I claim a pension -
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 5 th day of January 1833
 John West

State of Indiana Jefferson County 38: I R. G. Talbott clerk of the Jeff. Circuit Court within and for the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that A. Hawkins who appears to have taken and signed the above affidavit was at the time of taking thereof ever since hath been and now is an acting Justice of the Peace within and for the State and County aforesaid, duly commissioned and qualified; and that to all his acts as such full faith and credit are and of right ought to be given -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of office this 28 th day of January 1833
R. G. Talbott Atk

6825. John West Jefferson Indiana.
for 1780 probate bought $80.
Thomas Davis
57013. 16 - V u
Dec 4.
L. Cushing - Madison Ind.
10/31.

BRIEF in the case of  John West, of Jefferson County in the State of Indiana (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 84 years.  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     Enlisted In 1780 Left the Service in October 1782 - As a  Gen. Virg a State Troops,  Capt. Mark Thomas  Capt. Benj t Roberts  Lieut. Robert Saunders  Maj r Slaughter  Col o Wm Davis   
 5. In what battles was he engaged?  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Spotsylvania Co ty Virginia  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? on the Roll  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Examining Clerk.

January 11, 1936
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BA-J/EEL our John West-S.16573
Mrs. T.M.Reed 417 Poplar Street Madison, Indiana
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the pension records of John West, private Virginia Troops, who died August 14, 1833, and Sally Robinson, aged one hundred in 1840 and residing in Shelby Township.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited trained clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is not possible to comply in full with each request for Revolutionary War data.
The record of John West is furnished herein, the data for which were obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary War pension claim, S.16573, based upon the military service of that soldier in said war.
The date and place of birth and the names of the parents of John West are not shown.
While a resident of Spotsylvania County, Virginia, John West enlisted in 1780, served as a private in Captains Mark Thomas' and Benjamin Roberts' Companies under Major Slaughter and Colonel William Davies in the Virginia Troops, and left the service in October, 1782, having served two years.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 3, 1832, while a resident of Jefferson County, Indiana, aged eighty-four years.
He died August 11, 1833.
There are no data as to soldier's family.
Kindly make your requests over your personal signature.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

John West
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6825.
BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John West which require further proof or explanation.
 I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes  II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes  III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?  IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes  V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? No  VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes  VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes  VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes  IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes  X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Private Seal 
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? not required in this case
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. † If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility?
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? no
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? no
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For _____ year _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension.”

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.
QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
‡ In every case where the Clerk of the Court, or other certifying officer has no public Seal of Office, the Certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should be sent with the papers. —

Madison Ia Jan 28. 00
Dear
Indiana John West, Sept 6. Indiana Returned
John Robb Acting Secretary of War - War Department Pension Office Washington City

Madison Jan'y 28 th 1833
Mr John Robb
Sir - Therewith enclose the amended declarations of W m . Telford and John West - which were returned for want of precision as to the length of their service - The old fellows are extremely anxious lest  death for fear that Death will overtake them, before they reap their reward -
Very Respectfully Your Obed t Serv t
Courtland Cushing

16.573 INVALID.
File No. 16.573
John West Pri Rev War
Act: June 7" 32
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 400
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1920. June 30 Hist. to Mrs. James R. Kerr. Ev
1923. June 28. Hist. to adda Brownfield aut.
1929 - July 25 - Hist. to Thos. P. Dille. His letter in cl. of John West S.4720-MINN
1936 - Jan 11 - Hist to Mrs. M. Reed et

LaBelle Public Schools
JAMES R. KERR, SUPERINTENDENT LaBelle, Missouri
Rev Sec
June 5 - 1920.
(1) 2 enclosures
Comm. of Pensions Pension Bureau Dept - Interior Washington D.C.
Please send record of military service and family as given in pension appli- cation of John West, a Revolutionary pensioner of Jefferson Co. Indiana.
Mrs. James R. Kerr.

Recd -
Uniontown Pa, May 10, 1923
To Commissioner of Pensions:-
Will you kindly give me pension records of Jonathan Grey, Montgomery Co. Conn. pension May 21, 1818, died Oct 1, 1823. See pension Book 2, p 107. Pa. Continental line.
John West, private, Jefferson Co. Ind. Served Va. militia, Conn. pension March 4, 1831. died Aug. 14, 1833.
Yours Very truly.
(Mrs) Lada Brownfield Whyel aplo, 45 Morgan town St. Uniontown Pa

Mrs Finch, Room. 1851, Navy Bldg,
417 Poplar St., Madison, Indiana. November 2 1935.
Veterans Administration Washington, D.C.
Old War Case
Gentlemen:-
Will you please send me the pensions records for the following.
Clara West John West, private, Virginia Militia died 8-14-1833
no Rec PR 11/16
Sally Robinson, age 100 in 1840. Resided with Joseph Tague, in Shelby Twp.
Thanking you, Yours truly. signature Mrs. T.M.Reed.
cont Ident 11-8-6

REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS Rev. and 1812 Wars Section
MNHF/HBM
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR NATIONAL PARKS AND CONSERVATION COMMISSION
July 25, 1929.
Mr. Thomas Ray Dille Secretary-Treasurer West Virginia Historical Society Morgantown, West Virginia.
Dear Sir:
I advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 16573, it appears that John West, while a resident of Spotsylvania County, Virginia, enlisted in 1780, served as a private in Captains Mark Thomas' and Benjamin Roberts' Companies under Major Slaughter and Colonel William Davis in the Virginia troops, and left the service in October 1782, having served two years.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 3, 1832, while a resident of Jefferson County, Indiana, aged eighty-four years. He died August 11, 1833.
There are no data on file relative to his family.
The histories herewith furnished you are those of the only soldiers named John West who served in the Virginia troops, that are found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau.
Very truly yours,
EARL D. CHURCH Commissioner. 11

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of John West a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. S 16573-
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     1780 to Oct 1782 Col. (Mark Thomas Benj. Roberts ✓ Wm Davis Va.                                                   
Battles engaged in, None stated. Residence of soldier at enlistment, Spotsylvania Co. Va. Date of application for pension, Sept. 3, 1832 His cl. cl. Residence at date of application, Jefferson Co., Ind. Age at date of application, 84 yrs.
Remarks: There is no data on file as to family - Died Aug. 14, 1833 (from AB. July 25-1929)
Respectfully,
Commissioner.