Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 23,044, James Van Nater, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Van Nater, James or Van Natter or Van Etten
S. 2-3,044
CONTENTS

24. 538 New York James Van Mater of Johnstown in the State of New York who was a private in the Comp. commanded by Captain Kipp — of the Regt commanded by Col. Ten Broeck in the New York line for 6 months —
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 20 Dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Decr. 1833 and due to J. N. Berry Johnstown
  Arrears to the 4th of Sep. 33  $ 50    Semi-ant. allowance ending 1st Mo. 34  10         $ 60  
{ Revolutionary Claim, { Act June 7, 1832. } Recorded by Geo. Stiles Clerk, Book E. Vol. 4. Page 85.

State of New York County of Greene }/p
On the 8 th day of November 1833 personally appeared before me Benjamin Stoutenburgh of the town of Cairo, county of Greene & state of New York aged 72 years who being first duly sworn according to law on his oath deposes & says that he is well acquainted with James Van Etten of the town of Johnstown county of Montgomery & state aforesaid. That during the revolutionary war this deponent resided in the town of Clinton (then Nine Partners), county of Dutchess near the said James Van Etten the applicant for a pension who then resided in Rhinebeck a town adjoining that in which deponent then resided. That during the war aforesaid said Van Etten belonged to a company of militia commanded by Captain James Ripp and he said James Van Etten with said company was often called out by the officers commanding it in cases of alarm occasioned by the banding together of the Tories and robberies and aggressions committed by them, and occasional inroads of parties of the British into the country, called out sometimes for a day or two & sometimes for several days together. deponent cannot state the number of times said Van Etten was called out as aforesaid, or how long he served, but says he said Van Etten actually served in said company when so called out in the whole six months. Neither can deponent state the years when he said Van Etten was called as aforesaid in particular or any further particulars of his service as by reason of age deponent's memory is much impaired, but it was during several years of the war. In addition to this deponent further says he recollects that said Van Etten was pressed or drafted with his team to aid the U.S. forces at Fishkill. cannot say how long he served there & further says not
Benj r Stoutenburgh
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid & I further certify that I am well acquainted with said deponent that he is a man of credibility a fair & credible witness & his statements entitled to full credit M r J. Pierson Justice of the peace

State of New York
Greene County ss. I, William T. B. Hermance Clerk of the said County do certify that William Pierson Esquire before whom the within affidavit was sworn, was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace of the said County and that his signature thereto is genuine.
Witness my hand and seal of office this Eighth day of November 1833.
William T. B. Hermance Clerk

State of New York County of Greene } ss
On the 27 th day of October 1852 personally appeared before me Abraham Van Etten of the town of Cairo in said county who being first duly sworn according to law on his oath says that he is well acquainted with James Van Etten of the town of Johnstown county of Montgomery & state of New York. the applicant for a pension that during the revolution- ary war the said James & this deponent resided in the town of Rhinebeck county of Dutchess & state aforesaid. that during the revolution- ary war the said James belonged to a company of militia commanded by Captain James Ripps and was often called out in case of alarms, occasioned by robberies of the Tories, and occasional inroads of the British. deponent cannot say how many times said James was called out on such alarms, or how long he served but does positively swear that he served on such alarms in the whole during the war more than six months, and deponent further says that said James was drafted or pressed with his team to aid the United States forces and was with his team at Fishkill for about three months. making in the whole a service of more than nine months. And deponent further says that said James hired a substitute to serve for him in the United States service named John Maffit for three years for said his such service sixty four pounds, & deponent

believing such substitute served out his said term of service - Said deponent is sixty three years of age has lately seen the said James Van Etten who served as aforesaid & knows him to be the same person who now makes this application for a pension & full pay, not
Abraham Van Etten
On this 27 th day of October 1832 personally appeared before me the above named Abraham Van Etten & subscribed & swore to the above affidavit according to law. And I further certify that I am well acquainted with said deponent & have been for several years, that he is a fair character & his statements entitled to full credit.
The words "me" "my" & "James Van Etten" interlined before sworn to. I certify
Justice of the Peace
Edward Daley Esq. Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in & for Greene County State of New York I Justice of the Peace
State of New York. Greene County ss. I William T. B. Hermance Clerk of the said County do certify that Edward Daley Esquire before whom the foregoing affidavit was sworn, and who subscribed the above certificate was at the date of the same and now is a Judge of Court of Common Pleas of the said County, and that his signature to the foregoing certificate is genuine. Witness my hand and seal of office this thirteenth day of October 1832
William T. B. Hermance Clerk

State of New York Montgomery County S.S.
On this 18 th day of December in the year of our Lord thousand Eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in Open Court, before the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Montgomery Now Sitting James Van Vleet a resident of the Town of Johnstown the County of Montgomery and State of New York, aged 77 years being first duly Sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of res passsed June 7, 1832: That he entered the Service of the United States in the following named officers and served as herein stated: Your Applicant Says, that in the first part of the Revolutionary war, the year this applica- Cannot recollect, and now State, neither can he State the month or day of the Month he was drafted in a Militia Company Commanded by one James Kipp, Capt the other Company officers he cannot name, the field officers, whom he now recollects were Col Jon n Brock or Hay & Major Bradley, he cannot State the name of any the officers except those already stated and mentioned: But your applicant says he says that at the time he was thus drafted, as aforesaid, he was unable to be and therefore hired a Substitute to take his place, the Substitutes name was John whom your applicant paid the sum of, Sixty four Pounds as here; Your appl n further says, that the place where he resided during the period of the Revo- lutionary war was Dutchess County Town of Rhinebeck State of New York, that most all other inhabited parts in the State of New York, during this important era it was exposed to the withering hands of the enemy and liable to the attacks of the dreadful Coalition formed between the English Tories & Indians, at all times: Some that detestible set called or justly branded with the name of Tories would sally forth the purpose of robbing and plundering the Whigs: At other times that Section be invaded by a Band of British who destroyed and lay waste the country burning the habitations and property of the Whigs: This being the deplorable state of that country, the inhabitants were liable and not only liable, but instin- compelled to turn out and shoulder fire arms, in defence of their lives, families property: Your applicant says that this was the situation of that place from the commencement to the close: That he was, called out frequently in the manner as above stated during the war: The number of times that he was out & the length of time that he was out, at each time it would be as impossible, for

applicant now to state, as it would be possible for him now to endure the privations, hardships that he endured during that eventful period: He your applicant true to the humanity & the knowledge that this Hon Department has of the situation of the country at that time and the manner in which most of the applicants, under the present act of congress served their country in the hour of danger: He is well aware that this Hon Department requires the precise length of time that each applicant has served to be definitely stated; but he is also conscious that if this rule is pursued by this Hon Department in cases where applicants have served in the manner that he your applicant has by piece meals and short periods of 3 days, 3 days at a time, that many will be very unjustly deprived of that remuneration which they are justly entitled from General Government: He your applicant says that whenever he went out, he went as a private in the company of Capt James aforesaid, in a detachment of that company, under the command of some Subaltern officer belonging to said Capt's Company, the names of the commanding Subaltern officer he cannot now state: He says that all the service that he rendered during the war was done within the County of Dutchess and on its borders, under the officer heretofore mentioned: He your applicant says that he was out about a half a month the time Sopus was burnt, the year he cannot state this was the longest time he was out at any one time: He your applicant says that Benjamin Stoutenburgh, whose affidavit is herewith annexed, and who has been deceased did make a calculation of the length of time by adding together the different periods at which he had been out and the length of time he your applicant had been out, at each period, which times he the said Stoutenburgh knew of his own personal knowledge that he this applicant had served, and that when they were added up it made more than six months, as he the said Stoutenburgh states in his said affidavit: He says that Stoutenburgh recollect more about it than he himself: And your applicant says that he did serve, in the manner as stated during the period of the war for more than six months; but says he is only paid for six months for the service rendered as above stated: Your applicant says, that over and above the service already stated, he was drafted in the Service of the U. S. as a Teamster and went with his team from Rhinebeck to Poughkeepsie this was in the Spring of the year 1779, the day and month he went out and when discharged he is unable to state, and served three months as such Teamster, the captain of the company in which he drafted was Wilson belonging to Col Stays Regiment, the other officers names he

now recollect: He your applicant says he has given as much of a history of his services as he is able: Your applicant says that the time he served both as Teamster and on alarms units amount to at least a year but to place it on safe grounds and so that this War Department cannot consistently with their own rules reject his claim, he claims pay for nine months and whatever else the Department may allow him for the money he paid to his substitute: He was born in the Town of Rhinebeck Ulster County State of New York, in the year 1755: His birth is recorded in his Father's family bible which is in his own possession He was was acquainted with none of the Regular officers. Still might have been during the war but does not now recollect: He is acquainted with the following persons residing in his neighborhood who can testify as to his character for truth and veracity and their belief of his services as a Soldier of the Revolution to wit Tobias A Stoutenburgh & Aaron Haring
He is acquainted with no clergyman and is unable to procure the certificate of such a person
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any state
Sworn & Subscribed the day & year aforesaid in open court James his Van Riper mark Geo: D. Ferguson, Clerk.
We Tobias A Stoutenburgh & Aaron Haring both residing in the Town of Pines town, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with James Van Riper, who has Subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be 77 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid Aaron Haring in Open Court T.A. Stoutenburgh
Geo: D. Ferguson, Clerk

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier; and the Court further certify that it appears to them that Aaron Haring & Tobias A. Stoutenburgh who have signed the preceding affidavit are residents of the town of Johnstown in the said County of Montgomery, are credible persons, & that their statement is entitled to credit.
I George D. Ferguson, clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of said, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of James Van Watten for a Pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 14th day of November 1833.
Geo: D. Ferguson.
James Van Watten
Application
Admitted Proved before the
for not allowed
and answer to J. V. Bury Johnstown N. York

Name James Van Mater Date July 19. 1921 N.Y. Troops No. 1823044 War Rev.
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see receipt for payment in Isaac Van Mater R 10878

Revolution
23044 INVALID.
File No. 23,044
James Van Natter
His Rev. wife
Act: June 7 th 32
Index:—Vol. 2 , Page 432
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1921 July 20 copies of 4 pages mailed to Captain H. M. Van Natter, General Del- woy, Muncie, Ind. (enc receipt for payment in Isaac Van Natter. R. 10878). au