Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11775, Joel White, Conn.

SERVICE
NUMBER
born
White, Joel
S. 11775
CONTENTS
carded

let. to J. Fowles 2 d Oct. 8. 1833 - order, do. to J. Fleming P. R. 10 th Sept. 1834
4252
New York
Joel White
of Troy in the State of New York who was a Priv. & Artificer in the Company commanded by Captain Manning of the Regt. commanded by Col. Putnam in the Connecticut ★ line for 1 month and 12 days Private and 8 months Artificer
Conn. Continental Records completed May 23. 07
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 52 Dollars 64 Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 17 day of Janua- ry 1833 — and sent to Geo. Gould Troy N.Y.
Arrears to 14th of Sept 1832 — $78.96 Semizant. allowance ending 4 Mar '33 26.32 $105.28
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Geo. Bromwell Clerk, Book D Vol. 5 Page 205

In the matter of Joel White Application for Pension
N o 5312.
Specif. expense re
admitted
8 mo Artificer
1 mo 12. days private
Out

State of New York
County of Rensselaer, City of Troy ss. On this 9 th day of August, 1832, personally appeared in open court, before the Mayor's Court, (now sitting), of the City of Troy aforesaid, Joel White, a resident of said City, County, & State, aged 77 years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7 th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. — That he was born the 15 th of July 1755, in the town of Sutton, County of Worcester, State of Massachusetts. He has no record of his age. When he first entered the service, he lived in the town of Woodstock County of Windham, & State of Connecticut; where, in May 1775, he enlisted for 8 months, under Captain Ephraim Manning, as an armorers , (with the pay of First Lieutenant); the Lieutenant of this company was William Lyon. — The Colonel with whom it was marched, was Israel Putnam. He marched to Cambridge, & there joined the Army investing Boston. On arriving there Israel Putnam was appointed a Brigadier General; and John Stark was made Colonel, in his place. He was serving as armorers , when the battle of Bunker Hill was fought. He served out his term of 8 months, & was discharged at Cambridge. He received a written discharge; but it was burnt, about twelve years ago, with all his other documents, at Glens Falls, in the County of Washington & State of New York, in a fire which destroyed the house where he boarded. — He went home, to Woodstock & in 1778 volunteered to go with the Militia that joined "Sullivan's Expedition"; he was in Captain Silas Beman's company, & went to the Island of Rhode Island; he served in this company six weeks ; & was then discharged; but received no written discharge. He has no documentary evidence. And knows of no living witnesses, that could be procured, unless at very great expense. He is well known to Issai Tracy, & Reuben Babcock Jr. of said City of Troy. Owing to great infirmity, & deafness, he has not, for several years, attended church, and therefore is not acquainted with any clergyman. But the said Tracy & Babcock, can testify as to his character for veracity, & their belief of his services as a revolutionary soldier. After the War of the Revolution he has lived in Woodstock aforesaid till about 1790 — then for some three years in Wallingford Rutland County, Vermont — then in the towns of Oxford & Dudley in Worcester County (Massachusetts) about six years; then in the City of Troy for some 15 years or more; then, about the year 1820, for six months, at Glens Falls, where his papers were destroyed as above related. He then came back to Troy, where he has resided ever since. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the

Present, I declare that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Sworn to & subscribed the day
of year aforesaid
Archibald Bull Clerk
Joel White
We Daniel Hyser and Reuben Babcock Jr. residing in the City of Troy aforesaid, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joel White, who has subscribed, & sworn to, the above declaration; that we believe him to be 77 years of age; that he is reputed & believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution; & that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn to & subscribed the day
of year aforesaid
Archibald Bull Clerk
Daniel Hyser R Babcock Jr.
And the said Court does hereby declare its opinion, after the investigation of the matter, & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier & served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to it that Daniel Hyser and Reuben Babcock Jr. who have signed the foregoing certificate, are credible persons, & that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Archibald Bull, Clerk of the Mayor's Court of the City of Troy, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court in the matter of the application of Joel White for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand & the seal of my office this ninth day of August 1832
Archibald Bull Clerk

City of Troy N. On this 21 st day of December, 1832, before the Subscriber, a Judge of Rensselaer County Courts, Joel White, the above applicant, being duly sworn says, that he is from sickness unable to appear in open court; that the Joel White, named in the annexed affidavits, certified & sealed by George Borren Clerk of Probate for the district of Woodstock (Connecticut), is one & the same with him, the said applicant; & further the deponent saith not.
Sworn & subscribed this 21 st day of December 1832 before me
Joel White
Geo R Davis Rec of the Judges of Rensselaer County Courts Counsellor of Sup Court
Rensselaer County ss. I. George R Davis, one of the Judges of Rensselaer county Courts, & counsellor of the Supreme Court, do certify that the above named applicant Joel White, who has subscribed & sworn to the above affidavit; has, since his application to the Mayor's Court, in August last, been so disabled, by a paralytic attack, as to be unable to attend on this, or any court; & that the above affidavit was taken before me, at his residence, & is entitled to full credit. Dated December 21 st 1832.
Geo R Davis Rec of the Judges of Rensselaer County Courts Counsellor at Law Rensselaer

I Peregrine White of Woodstock in the County of Windham and State of Connecticut of lawful age testify and say That I am now in the eighty sixth year of my age and that my brother Joel White late of said Woodstock now residing in Troy in the State of New York is two years younger than myself. I further say that the said Joel White was brought up and educated in the Art of Gunsmith. That at the beginning of the Revolutionary War (which was in the year 1775) he enlisted for the term of seven months in a company commanded by Capt. Ephraim Mann and joined the Army in Cambridge in Massachusetts . After he joined the Army, and it was known he was a Gunsmith he was detached for that service and served for the term of eight months in that capacity. I was then a few days myself while said Joel was in the Army and then saw him engaged in that business.

and the time he was gone from home was according my recollection eight months - I myself afterwards was in the Army for a short time in the same capacity, and was allowed the same pay as a Captain, as I suppose the said Joel was while he served.
I further say that the said Joel White that afterwards went a short time in the Army in Rhode Island but the length of time or the particular year I have forgotten and further with not Dated at Woodstock the 13 th day of September 1832
Peregrine White
State of Connecticut Windham County lot of Sept 13 1832
Then personally came before me Peregrine White of Woodstock in said County & made solemn oath that the foregoing deposition by him subscribed contains the truth. I further certify that the said Peregrine is well known to me and that he is a very worthy respectable old man, and full allusion can be placed on his testimony and that he is a credible witness. John M c Clusky for the People

I Peregrine White of Woodstock in Windham County and State of Connecticut of lawful age testify and say That in the year 1778 my brother Joel White late of said Woodstock now residing in Ithaca in the State of Connecticut  New York was in the revolutionary war, and I was there a short time my self. I further say That the said Joel told me that a number of Horses belonging to British Officers were turned out in some lots which he surrounded and took, and the Horses were appropriated for the use of the Army. I saw General Putnam riding one which was said to be so taken. Several persons which then belonged to the Army told me about the same time of my brother the kind Joel taking said Horses. The number of Horses I do not recollect Woodstock Sept. 13 th 1832 Peregrine White

State of Connecticut Windham County ss. Apr. 13 th 1832 Then personally came before me Percynne White of New Britain in said County & made oath to the truth of the facts stated in the foregoing deposition by him submitted. I further certify that the said Percynne White is well known to me and that he is a credible witness.
John M. L. H. Allen Justice of the Peace

I George Bower Clerk of Probate for the District of Woodstock in the state of Connecticut do hereby certify that John McEllen Esq before whom the within Deposition was made is duly enrolled as a Justice of the Peace in and for said Windham County that the within signature of his name is hand writing and that full faith and credit ought to be given to his acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of said Court at Woodstock this 14 th Day of September A D 1832
George Bower Clerk of Probate for the District of Woodstock State of Connecticut
A large, stylized signature in cursive ink, likely that of George Bower, featuring a prominent horizontal line and decorative flourishes.

I know ye that I John Fox of Woodstock in the County of Windham and State of Connecticut aged seventy three years Do testify and say that in the year of 1775 I was a soldier in Capt Ephraim Manning Company Col o Putmans Regiment or Col o Durbey in the army of the United States for the term of seven months and I was knowning to Joel White then of said Woodstock of serving in sd Regiment as an Armorer and that he did enlist in sd Manning Company and said Regiment were stationed at Cambridge near Boston during Massachusetts during said term of seven months I remained nine months at that time two months more than I enlisted and my belief is that sd White continued absent as I did and further the deponent saith not
Woodstock Sept 14 th A 1832
John Fox
State of Connecticut Windham County ss September 14 th 1832 Then John Fox Esq Woodstock in said County personally came before me and made solemn Oath to the truth of the facts stated in the foregoing deposition by him subscribed. And I further certify that the said Fox is a very respectable man and a credible witness, and full reliance can be placed upon his testimony as. The is a credible witness John M c Clusker Justice of the Peace

I George Bower Clerk of Probate for the District of Woodstock in the State of Connecticut Do hereby that John M c Allen Esq r before whom the within deposition was made is Duly enrolled as a Justice of the Peace in and for said Windham County that the within signature of his name is his hand writing and that full faith and credit ought be given to his acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of said Court at Woodstock this 16 th day of September A D 1832
George Bower Clerk of Probate for the District of Woodstock State of Connecticut
A large, stylized signature in cursive, likely that of George Bower, featuring a prominent horizontal line through the name.

Chester Chaffe of Thompson in the County of Windham and State of Connecticut aged seventy seven years. depose and say that I am acquaint- -ainted with Joel White now of Troy in the County of Rensselaer - in the State of New York but formerly of Woodstock Connecticut - The said Joel White was in the campaign with me at Cambridge Massachusetts in the year 1775 and that the said White was Master Armorer to the Regiment which I belonged to commanded by Col Dungee - and that the said Joel White served as Master Armorer in said campaign Nine months - and further the deponent saith not
State of Connecticut Sept 22 nd 1832 Windham County ss Personally appeared in open court before the Hon John Paine Judge of Probate for Woodstock District Chester Chaffe who has subscribed the above Deposition and made solemn oath to the facts therein stated - and the court certifies that the deponent is a man of truth and that his statement is entitled to credit -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of said Office dated at Woodstock this 22 nd of September A D 1832
George Bower Clerk of Probate for the District of Woodstock

M 233
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
Finance Division
Mar. 27, 1924
Chief Rev. Sect. Division.
Sir:
I have this day received from Mrs. George J. Wills cash No. ....
for $ 3 60 , requesting copy post office address as per letter herewith.
1924 Apr. 2. Copies mailed and Finance Dept. noted
noted REV. WAR SECTION
Respectfully, O. J. RANDALL
Chief Finance Div. H.C.L.

Mrs. George J. Wills, 162 West 81st, New York City, wants photostat copies of twelve pages, two sets, from Revolutionary War pension claim Joel White, S. 11775, Connecticut Troops. not cfd.
Received payment $3. 60-
Antonia Ford.
March 26, 1924.
A. G. Wilson
REV. WAR SECTION

Request for Photostating (To be prepared in duplicate)
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Ex. aw
713
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF CLERK
Job No. ....
Date Mar. 31. 24
Subject for White Rev 811-775-
2 copies of 7 pieces consisting of 12 pages to be (No.) (No.) REV. WAR SECTION (No.) forwarded when completed to the ..... Division
Remarks: Please make 2 negatives of each page
Approved:
W. E. Wilson
Chief Div. REV. WAR SECTION
Chief clerk.

Rehran
11775
INVALID.
File No. 11775
Joel White Priv te Rev War
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index: — Vol. a , Page 405
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1921 Sept. 30. Heir to Mrs. Geo. White and 1921 Oct. 12. Heir to J. G. de Forest and 1921 Nov. 9. J. G. de Forest who do apply to former section for rate of death to Mrs. Geo. J. White 1924 Sept. 3. copy of mail to Mrs. Geo. J. White

V.L.M.
November 9, 1931.
L. Effingham deForest, 44 East 33 rd Street, New York N. Y.
Madam:
In response to your letter dated the 18 th ultimo, you are advised that to ascertain the date of last payment of pension of the Revolutionary War pensioner Joel White S. File No. 11,775 the name of person paid and date of soldier's death you should apply to the Pension Section, Interior Department Division, General Accounting Office, Walker-Johnson Building, Navy Annex, 18 th Street and New York Ave., N. W., Washington, D. C., citing all of the following data:
" Joel White, Certificate No. 4,252 issued January 17, 1833, rate $52.64 from March 4, 1831, Act June 7, 1832, New York Agency."
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.

44 EAST 23 RD STREET NEW YORK CITY
Ref
SOCIETY OF MAYFLOWER DESCENDANTS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK
October 18, 1921
My dear Sir:
You were recently kind enough to supply me with a copy of the application for pension of Joel White a Revolutionary soldier from Connecticut. The number appearing on the certificate that you sent me was S11775. Your letter states that the pension was duly granted.
May I ask whether it is possible to learn from your records if the date of death of Joel White appears or at least if you could tell me the date when the last pension was paid to him and his residence at that time?
Very truly yours,
Historian
The Commissioner of Pensions, Department of the Interior, Washington, D. C.

Rev. Sec
SOCIETY OF MAYFLOWER DESCENDANTS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK 44 EAST 23RD STREET NEW YORK CITY
September 24, 1921.
My dear Sir:
May I trouble you to ask whether there is any record of an application for or a grant to Joel White of a pension for services in the War of the Revolution? Joel White was born in Marshfield, Mass. between 1740 and 1750 but he lived most of his life in Connecticut. It was from that State that he entered the Revolutionary Army. Woodstock, Conn. was probably his home at that time.
If there is a pension record please let me have a copy of it. Any fee for this will be met upon information of the amount.
Very truly yours,
Francis J. Bringham Historian of the Society
The Director, Bureau of Pensions, Department of the Interior, Washington, D.C.

Prospect Park
White Plains N.Y.
Sept 6 th /21
Pension Bureau Washington DC
Dear Sir,
White Can you tell me if Joel White who fought under Gen. Putnam in Infantry - Co C. 57531 entered army May 10. 1775 (Index to Services entered " later in 1778 captain Rowe's Connecticut Vol. ever applied for a pension" and if so if there is any information as to where he lived or any other information that I could use in looking up our line of descent

If it takes some time to do this I am willing to pay a reasonable sum for the information and will be greatly obliged for anything that you may be able to tell me about him or his family
Yours very truly
Mrs George Will

State of New York. Rensselaer County } ss. I, Archibald Bull, Clerk of said County, hereby certify that George R. Davis, who has signed the within certificate, & before whom the within af- fidavit purports to have been taken is a Judge of the County Courts of said County, of the degree of Councillor of the Supreme Court; that I am well acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe, that his name, subscribed to the said certificate & affidavit, is his proper handwriting & signature; And I further certify that the annexed are the original proceedings, & the affidavits by said Judge annexed to the original proceedings, in the matter of the application of Joel White for a pension. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this twenty first day of December 1832
Archibald Bull Clerk

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19____
811775
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Joel White a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     May 1775 8 mos armor Ephraim Manning Israel Putnam John Durkee Conn.   1778 6 wks Silas Bowen      
Battles engaged in, Gen. Sullivan's R.I. Expedition Residence of soldier at enlistment, Woodstock, Windham Co. Conn. Date of application for pension, Aug. 9, 1833. His ch. was al. Residence at date of application, Troy, N.Y. Age at date of application, July 15, 1755 at Sutton, Worcester Co. Mass. Remarks: It is not stated when he was married
Respectfully,
Commissioner.