Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 26989, John Carmichael, Penn.

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SERVICE Penn.  Carmichael, John  NUMBER S.26989

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34.774
John Carmichael
Ohio,

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[Handwritten]
State of Ohio  Monroe County [illegible]
on this 20th day of September 1838 personally
appeared before me Jeremiah Hollister one of the
associate Judges in and for the County aforesaid
John Carmichael of the age of 96 years
who being first duly Sworn according to  [illegible]
doth on his oath make the following Declaration 
in order to obtain the benefit of the [illegible]
made by the act of Congress dated June 7th 1832
that he Enlisted in the Army of the United 
States in the year 1775 as near as he can
recollect.  does not remember the name of the
officer with whom he enlisted that he served
in Captain Woods company of infantry in the
Second regiment of the Pennsylvania [illegible]
under the the following named officers Capt
Woods and he thinks Col Hood that he
enlisted during the war and Served until
nearly the close of the war and does not
[crossed out]  know [illegible] entirely the close of the 
Revolution that he was in Several Battles
to wit the Battle of Bunker hill the Battle
of Ticonderoga the Battle of the [illegible] Rivers
in which (inserted) last named Battle he was wounded being
that through the Shoulder and shot through
the Leg and Lost his right Eye that he 
was in more Battles but cannot now recollect
was also in Several Scrimmages that he lost
his right eye either by the point of a bayonet
or a Sword  does not [crossed out] know which
that his mind is so impaired that from the 
infermity of old age and lack of memory
he cannot State precisely [crossed out] the [illegible] of
his Service but he is Certain that he
Served at least Six years is not Certain
about his age his son thinks he is 96 six
years old.

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[handwritten]
that the officers were General Gates Washingto
Col Hood an Capt Wood is all he can
now remember that he relies on the 
testimony in the department which placed
him on the pension Roll as an invalid
pensioner and hopes as his memory is almost
intirely failed you will not require
him to give all the particulars in his case
he hereby relinquishes every claim whatsoever
to a Pension on annuity except the presentation
declares that his name is not on the Pension 
Roll of any Agency in any State except
the Agency at Wheeling State of Virginia
on which his name is enrolled as an 
invalid pensioner. that he does not know
of any person now by whom he can
prove his Service and that the reason
of his not making an earlier application
is that he did not know he was entitled
and no person until Lately gives him 
that informtion Sworn and [illegible]
this 20th day of September [Inserted] n 1838 before [crossed out]
me
[Signature]    Jer Hollister                         his    
 associate Judge                               John x Carmichael
Jacob Mevay witness                               mark

and  I do herby declare my opinion
that the above named applicant was a 
Revolutionary Soldier and Served as he States
and I do further certify that the Said
applicant from bodily infirmity is
unable to attend the Court 

[signature] Jer Hollister 
associate Judge

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[handwritten] 
State of Ohio Monroe County [illegible]
I Robert F. Naylor Clerk of the Court of Common
Pleas within and for said County Do hereby Certify
that Jeremiah Hollister Esquire is an associate Judge
of said Court within & for said County. Duly Commissioned
& Qualified according to law.  And that the foregoing Signatures
purporting to be his are Genuine
In Testimony Where of I have here unto set my hand
and affixed the seal of said Court [illegible] the 2nd day of October
[signature] Robert F. Naylor Clerk

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[typewritten form with handwritten entries]
APPLICATION FOR A TRANSFER
 State of Ohio
County of  Monroe
On this 22nd day of Nov  1833
before me, the subscriber, a [scratched out Justice of the Peace]  an associate Judge for the said County of
Monroe personally appeared John Carmichael
who, on his oath declared that he is the same
person who formerly belonged to the company commanded by Captain
Woods in the Regiment commanded by Colonel
Woods in the service of the United States; that
his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of Virginia
from whence he has lately removed; that he now resides in the State (struck out District, 
or Territory,) of Ohio Monroe County where he intends to 
remain, and wishes his pension to be there payable, in future.  The following
are his reasons for removing from Virginia to Ohio
[struck out to that] his wife died and he Came to
to Live with his Son
[bracketed]  attest                           John Carmichael
                 Josiah W Adams                     x
                                                         his mark

Sworn and subscribed to, before me }
the day and year aforesaid
Jeremiah Hollister
associate Judge

[typewritten] [pointing finger] The oath to be taken before duly qualified Magistrates, whose official character and signature must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.  The county Clerk, Secretary of State, or some other officer, must certify, under his seal of office, that the officer who administered the oath is a Justice of the Peace, Judge, Mayor, Alderman, or Notary Public, as the case may be, and that the signature purporting to be his
is genuine.

[typewritten] [pointing finger]  The oath must be supported by the testimony of some respectable person, as to the Pensioner's identity.  He must swear that the person who has taken the above oath is the person described in the affidavit.  The Magistrate must certify, that the witness is a person of veracity; and the affidavit must also be authenticated in the manner above directed,

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[handwritten]
State of Ohio Monroe County [illegible]
on this 22nd day of Nov 1833
personally appeared before the
Subscriber on of the associate judges 
for the County aforesaid Henry H Mott
who on his oath declares that John Carmichael
who has taken the above oath to obtain a 
transfer of his name from Virginia to
Ohio is the identical John Carmichael
described in the affidavit [signature] H. H. Mott
Sworn and Subscribed
to the day and year
aforesaid
Jer. Hollister
associate Judge

and I do hereby testify that the above
named witness  Henry H Mott is a man of
truth an honesty given under my hand
at [illegible] This 22 Nov 1833
Jer. Hollister
associate Judge

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[typewritten]

[aw  ection.]
November 3, 1915

Hon. George Rauch,
House of Representatives.

My dear Mr. Rauch,
In response to your letter of the second instant, and the enclosed letter of Mrs. Alice Carmichael Smith of Wabash Indiana, I have the honor to advise you that a careful search of the records of this Bureau fails to show that bounty land was allowed on account of the Revolutionary War services of a John Carmichael of Pennsylvania, under any spelling of the name.  For information relative to land that may have been granted by the State of Pennsylvania, you should address the State Librarian at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

John Carmichael who served in the Pennsylvania troops, Revolutionary War, was was nine-six years old and a resident of Monroe County Ohio in 1838, having formerly lived in Virginia.  (no other place of residence stated) was a pensioner s. File No. 26,989.

John Carmichael who served in the Pennsylvania troops, Revolutionary War, was born August 7, 1757

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[typewritten]
in Chester County, Pennsylvania, lived in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, at time of enlistment and in Cooke County, Tennessee and Carroll County, Georgia, after the Revolution, was a pensioner s. File No. 31,595.

The above noted are the only soldiers of that name found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau.  If Mrs. Smith will state whether either of these is the soldier who history she desires, a detailed statement of the claim will be furnished her.

Very truly yours,
[signature] G. M. Saltzgaber
Commissioner.

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26989
INVALID
Revy
File No. 26,989
John Carmichael
[illegible] Penn Rev War

Act: -----------
Index: - Vol. 2, Page 62
[Arrangement of 1870.]

1915. Nov. 11. Hon. Geo. W. Rauch
advised this is not the 
person whose record is
desired by Mr. A.C. Smith [illegible]

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[handwritten]
John Carmichael
Ohio
---
Suspended
---
See let 18 June
[strikeout 1839 to J. Hollister
[illegible]  18
Augt 40   end strikeout]
1706
Act of June 1832

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1706   [stamp] REJECTED
P.O. [handwritten] John Carmichael
Service:
Enlisted: ______, 18  .
Discharged: ______, 18  .
Application filed: ______, 18  .

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[handwritten]
John Carmichael Ohio Pitt Invalid
to what time paid?

[illegible ] .8 [illegible]  [illegible]  Office,
pd [illegible] Wheeling to Aug +/- 18. 1860
4 March 1840 [illegible]

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[handwritten]
[[strike out  Virginia end strike out] to 
[strike out] Invalid.
Ohio Pittsburgh
John Carmichael Capt Woods
H. Penn. regt Col Woods,
private
------------
Revy War
in the Army of the Revy
member on the roll of the
Virginia agency at
8 per month.____________
_____________-
Dupt Certif [illegible] 12 March
1821. and sent to T. N Page Esq Richmond VA
Book D. Vol 2. Page 102

per letter 3 May 1830
to Samuel Smith Sr
Union Town PA [illegible]
M. Nelson 7. {strike out Oct. 1834 end strikeout] [inserted could not find  end insertion] do. to 
J. Hollister Nov. 9. 1831 to 
17 July 1832 [inserted could not find end insertion]
Fraud? [illegible] Virginia
Ohio Pittsburgh. - from
4th March 1832
on 17 Feby 1836 
notification sent to Pensioner care of Mr 
[image cut off] emiah Hollister. Woodsfield, Ohio.
Let to J Hollister [strikeout July 9 1838 end strikeout]
[inserted  could not find end insertion]
[strikeout let 18 June 39 J. Hollister end strikeout

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[handwritten]
The State of Ohio Monroe County [[illegible]
On this 22nd day December 1831
before me the Subscriber one of
the associate Judges for the Said
County of Monroe personally
appeared John Carmichael who on
his oath declares that he is the Same
person who formerly belonged to the 
Company Commanded by Captain
Woods - - - in the   Regiment 
Commanded by Colonel Woods of Pennsylvania
in the Service of the United States
that his name was placed on the pension
roll of the State of Virginia from 
whence he has lately removed that he
now resides in the State of Ohio where 
he intends to remain and wishes his 
pension to be there payable in future
The following are his reasons for
removing from the State of Virginia
to that of Ohio that his 
wife has Lately Deceased and himself 
infirm came to Reside with his
Son.
Sworn and
Subscribed to before    [signtaure] John Carmichael
me that day and 
year aforesaid
Jer. Hollister
Associate Judge

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[handwritten] The State of Ohio Monroe County [[illegible] 
On this 22nd day December 
1831 before me the Subscriber 
one of the associate Judges for Said 
County personally appeared James 
Carmichael who on his oath declares 
that the above named deponent John 
Carmichael who has taken the
above oath is the Same John Carmichael Described in the affidavit
to and Subscribed
before me the day and year aforesaid. 
Jer. Hollister          [signature[ James Carmichael
associate Judge
I hereby certify that James Carmichael
the above witness who has Sworn 
to the identity of John Carmichael
is a person of truth n veracity
Jer. Hollister
A Ju
State of Ohio Marion County [illegible]
I Robert F. Naylor Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas
in and for said County Do Certify that Jeremiah Hollister
Esquire before whom the forgoing proceedings
[illegible] had was at the time and now is an acting 
Associate Judge of the Court of Common Pleas
for said County Duly sworn and [illegible]
and that the signatures  [illegible] purporting to be his are genuine
whereof I have here unto set my hand and the 
Seal of said Court of Woodsfield the 25th Day of Dec 1831.
Robert F. Naylor Clerk

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Woodsfield Septr 8

JL Edwards
Free [on right side of page]
Comm of Pensions
Washington City

file with papers of
Jno Carmichael

W Sept 14.40

W

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[handwritten]
Woodsfield Ohio Sept 11 1840
Sir
I wish to make an apology
for a letter written to the war
Department without a Signature on
the Subject of John Carmichals pension
I Se from your reply to  him of the 
18th August Last the Letter has given
you Some Considerable trouble as
I Should not have  noticed it this
John Carmichael who forwarded the
Letter. is a Son. of the applicant
who applied for a pension and
was a Soldier of the last war
and not of the Revolution he is 
insane and supposes he is entitled to
a pension.  he called on me Some
time ago on the day the letter was [illegible]
and I explained to him the Law as 
well as I could and frequently repeated
to him that no pension fund would 
[illegible]  I could get clear of him in 
no way but to [illegible].  I sat down and 
Scratched down whatever he told me
and direct to the war Department
without Signatur.  mearly  to please him
not thinking he woul mail the letter 
about one hour after I called at 
the post office intending to tell the 
Post Master not to Send on the Letter
if mailed but to my Surprise found
the mail gone out and the Letter forwarded.
There is a John Carmichael who
if he can procure witness of [illegible] is
entitled of the benefit of the act of Jun 7th
but this man is not.

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[handwritten]
I hope you will have no further
trouble on his  account unless it
be from John Carmichael Sen you
will pay no attention to any Communication
on that subject for he is altogether
Insane.

I remain your most
Obedient Servant
Jer. Hollister
J L Edwards

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[stamp illegible]
United States Loan Office
State of Virginia
[ illegible]
J.L. Edwards Esquire
War Department
Washington

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[duplicate of image 20]

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J.L. Edwards Esq.      United States Loan Office
                                 State of Virginia
                                 9 March [illegible]
Sir
The within is an affidavit of a poor old
Revolutionary Soldier applying for a pension certificate
which you will be pleased to forward as soon as possible
as he is detailed heron expences' and cannot draw his
pension without it.

I am Sir very respectfully
Your Old Servant
Tho. N. Page

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Woodsfield O}
Aug 11}

Free [underlined on right side of page]

To the War Department
of the United States
Application of John Carmichael

Pension Office [in pencil - overlaps date below]
Aug 17 18[illegible][sideways on left side of page]
Jno Carmichael [sideways on left side of page]

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[handwritten]
Woodsfield Ohio August 11th 1840

you will pleas send John
Carmichael Jr, his pension
money he served as his father
did in the war.  he States
he was a true man to his
Country and that there was
not a man in the army could 
out go him.

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[typewritten]
COPY
War Dept. Pension Office
November 9,1831

Mr. Jeremiah Hollister
Woodsfield, Ohio
Sir:  Your letter of the 1st instant has been received. John Carmichael, in order to get his name transferred to the Roll of the Ohio Agency, must produce affidavits drawn up and authenticated according to the form and instructions contained in the enclosed printed sheet.  He cannot be paid at Pittsburg, because Monroe County, in which he resides, is not within the limits of the Pittsburgh Agency.

J.L.E.

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J Carmichael
Aug 18 1840
OC

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[handwritten]
[illegible]Officer
Augt 18. 1840
Sir,
In reply to a letter to
this office without signature,
respecting your case I have
to inform you that in order
to obtain [strikeout] a pension under
act of June 1832, [strikeout] [strikeout] alleges
served in the pennsylvania line
[strikeout] as set forth in your
declaration should be proved
by witness from personal 
knowledge.  The records here
offer no proof of your service.

oe

Mr. John Carmichael
Woodsfield,
Ohio

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[handwritten]
Jan 4 1832
 Woodsfield O
[illegible} 28th
P.O.

Free
Lewis Cass
Secretary of War
Washington
City

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[handwritten]
Woodsfield the 27th Dec 1834
[illegible] J L Edwards

Sir I herewith enclose [strikeout]
the affidavit of John and James 
Carmicle according to [illegible]
I am led to believe there must
be some mistake about Monroe
County not being in the Pittsburgh
Agency the Pensioner formerly 
Drawed at Pittsburgh Elijah
Hixson  Wm. Mclane and Adam
Crum all lived in Monroe County
and was paid at that place
however if cant be paid of 
Pittsburgh Pleas to transfer his
name to the Cincinatti or the 
most Convenient Place to
Monroe County

Respectfully yours
JL Edwards   Jer. Hollister
Pension Office

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[handwritten]
34
War Dept Pen Office
June 18,1839
Sir,
The declaration of John Carmichael has [illegible] & filed
with suspended cases.  He alleges
to have served a an enlisted 
solder of the Pennsylvania line
for at least six years from 1775
His name is not found on the
record in the office of those who
served in that line.  [illegible]
should therefor prove his service
by two witnesses as required in note
in the enclosed printed sheet,
He should also state under
oath his reasons for not making
any earlier application for said
pension.  If he was an Invalid
pensioner on account of wound received
while in the revolutionary army, there would
be va papers in his case or file, they
having been [strike out] destroyed at the

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[handwritten]
time the war office was burnt either
in 1800 or 1804.

Jere Hollister
June 18 '39
OE


Jeremiah Hollister
Woodsfield
Ohio

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[handwritten]
State of Ohio Monroe County [illegible]
I Robert F. Naylor Clerk of the Court of Common
Pleas on and for said County Do Certify that 
Jeremiah Hollister Esq is an acting Associate Judge
of the Court aforesaid duly commissioned & Qualified
and that the foregoing signatures purporting to be
his are genuine.
In Testimony Where of I have hereunto Set my
hand and affixed the Seal of said Court at Woodsfield
the wnd day of December A.D. 1833.
Robert F. Naylor Clerk

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[handwritten]
va roll
John Carmichael for
transfer va to Ohio
17-438
16-
write to [illegible]
see let to ajh 4 Feby 1834

[written horizontally]
Woodsfield O
[illegible]

Free
L Edwards
Commissioner of
Pensions
Petition for a transfer
12 [illegible]

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Woodsfield Dec 3rd 1833
Sir Enclosed you will find
the affidavit of John Carmichael
who wishes his name traferred from
the pension roll of Virginia to 
Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania
on the Same Sheet is the affidavit
of Henry H Mott identifying the
person - 
he particularly requests that his back
pay may also be transferred. he has
not received any pay Since 4th March
1832 - 
I am Sir with respect
your most obedient SErvant
Jer. Hollister
J L Edwards

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[handwritten]
Woodsfield O
Octr 2nd
W Ohio
John Carmichael Oct. 8,
Act 1832
Free
J L Edwards Comm
of Pensions Washington
City

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[handwritten]
Woodsfield Oct 2nd 183[illegible]
Dear Sir
I herewith enclose to you the
Declaration of John Carmichael  I
find his memory much impaired he can
scarcely recolect any thing. but that
he served during the war  I have no
doubt I conversed with him frequently
for four or five years [illegible] if from
the records or the proof duaduced in his
application for the invalid pension. Together
with this declaration he can be placed on
the pension Roll you will Pleas do so if
not Pleas let me know what more
will be wanting perhaps he may find
some person in Virginia by whom
he can prove his Services he has named
Several to me if they are yet Living

I Remain Sir your most obedient
Servant
Jer Hollister

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[handwritten]
Application for a new Certificate
City of Richmond to wit.
on the 9th day of March 1821, before
me the [illegible], a Justice of the Peace for the City of
Richmond  personally appeared John Carmichael who
on his oath, declares that he is the Same person who formerly
belonged to the Company commanded by Captain Wood
in the Regimental Commanded by  Coll. Wood in the
Service of the United States during the Revolutionary
War, that his name was placed on the Pension
Roll of the State of Virginia, that he never received
a Certificate of that fact, but that he has received
a pension for many years from the United States.

Given under my hand this
 9th day of March 18[illegible].
John Carmichael
his   x   mark

Sworn and Subscribed 
to before me the day and
year aforesaid
Wm H Fitzwhylsonn

Virginia - City of Richmond [illegible[
I, Thomas C. Howard, Clerk of the County
Hustings for the said City, hereby certify, that William H

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[handwritten]
H. Fitzwhylsonn, whose name is affixed to the 
foregoing Certificate, now is  and was at the time of
subscribing the same, a justice of the peace for the  said [illegible]
elected and qualified according to law.
In testimony whereof I hereunto
set my hand and affix the seal of
the said Court, this 9th day of 
March 1821
Th. C. Howard

[seal present]

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[handwritten]
Woodsfield
June 3
[illegible] July 9
Free
James L Edwards Com
of Pensions
Washington City

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[handwritten]
Woodsfield Ohio June 29th 1838
Dear Sir
Will you be so good as to
inform me as to the Rule in Certain 
Pension Law
Can an invalid Pensioner who was
placed on the Pension Roll under
the act of 1809 or previous wounded
win the Revolutionary war be also 
placed on the Pension Roll under the
ace of June 7th 1832 [inserted ]or any other act [end insert]
without a relinquishment of hte invalid pension
Can he draw two pensions at the
Same time.  I refer to the case of 
John [strikeout] Carmichael of this
County who wishes to make
application if obtainable.
one other Case the widow of a
Mr. Cline who was married before
the war of the Revolution and was
a Soldier of Said war.  Said Cline
died 20 or 30 years ago Leaving Said
widow who afterwards married one
Anthony Evin who was a [smudged out]
pensioner of the United States  Evans
died Some 10 or 15 years ago Leaving
Said widow who is yet Living 
and remaining unmarried. Can
She obtain any annuity or pension
I Shall feel thankfull for the above
answer or information

I Remain Sir your most
obedient Servant
Jer. Hollister

Mr. James L Edwards
[illegible] does the department intent to Collect the debt from C. Atkinson [illegible] in this County

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[typewritten]
GEOERGE W. RAUCH
11TH DIST. INDIANA
COMMITTE ON APPROPRIATIONS

House of Representatives U.S.
Washington, D. C.
November 10, 1915.

Hon. G.M. Saltzgaber
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir:
I am returning Bureau letter addressed to me,
of recent date with further information relative
to one John Carmichael.  The same is self explanatory.
Any information relative to the matter that
can be supplied by your Bureau, will be appreciated by me.
Kindly return my correspondent's letter and
official letter to me with your reply.
Very respectfully,
[signature} Goerge RAuch

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[typewritten]
November 11, 1915.
Hon. George W. Rauch,
House of Representatives.
My dear Mr. Rauch:
In response to your letter of the
tenth instant and the enclosed letter of Mrs. Alice
Carmichael Smith of Wabash, Indiana, who states that
the subject of her inquiry John Carmichael. enlisted
January 22, 1776, in Captain Thomas Moore's company, 2d Pennsylvania Battalion, Arthur St. Clair Colonel.
that his name was last on the company roll March 31, 
1777, and that he died in Pennsylvania in 1808, I have
the honor to advise you that as neither of the Revolutionary
War pensioners of that name referred to in the 
attached Bureau letter of November 3, 1915, rendered
the above service, and as both of them were alive after
that date, one in Ohio in 1838, the other in Georgia
in 1836, it would not appear that either of them was
the person whose record she desired an therefore this
Bureau is unable to aid her further.
Very truly yours,
[signature] GMSaltzgaber
Commissioner.