Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 16821, Thomas George, Va.

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Service VA 
George, Thomas
S 16821

Contents
Carded

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Orders to pay  11. Jany 1838.,
Letter to Hon  M. J. Graves
Sent to Pen. Agt.  19 Sept. 1839
To Madison  Indiana from
4 March 1839  10 Oct 1839
Notification to Pensioner
Madison, Indiana
Other Side: Indiana Madison 7390
Thomas George
Of Oldham Co. in the State of Kent
who was a private in the company commanded
by Captain Walker of the Regt. commanded
by Col. -------- in the Ninth
line for 11 month
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky
at the rate of 36 Dolars 66 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 9 day of April 
1833 and Sent to W. G. Wharton 
Madison Indiana
Arrears to the 4th of March 		        73.32
Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Sept. 	18.33
				                              $91.65
Handwritten on side – No date of death on Agency book
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Daniel Boyd Clerk, 
Book E. Vol. 7 Page 10

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11240

Oldham County
Thomas George
Kentucky
From 1778 private
11 months
$36.66/100

W. G. Wharton
Madison
Indiana

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BRIEF in the case of Thomas George
Of Oldham County in the State of Kentucky
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1.  Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Before Court
2.  If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3.  How old is he? 72
4.  State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period. draft fall In 1778; Dec. 1780; 
Duration of Service. 3 months
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Captain Walker & (Illegible Name)
Period. Feby up 1787 to Sept. still in service about 8 months
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. General Green Commandant
5.  In what battles was he engaged: Guilford C House N. Carolina
6.  Where did he reside when he entered the service: Lunenburg County, Virginia
7.  Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary & living witness
8.  Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? And if so, in what respect?

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.

Examining Clerk.

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Commonwealth of Kentucky, Oldham County JP

In this 18th day of September 1832; personally appeared before the Court the Honl [Honorable] Judge of the Circuit Court of the State and County aforesaid now sitting Thomas George a resident of said State, and County - aged 72 years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress, passed the 7th day of June 1832.
That (agreeable to his Father’s register) he was born in the year 1759 Oct. 17th in the state of Virginia and County of Amelia. That he removed from Amelia County on the first day of November 1776 to Lunenburg County in the same State, where he resided when he first entered the service of the United States and sometime in the summer, or autumn of 1778, he was drafted in the state Militia for the defense of Norfolk, and Williamsburg, and ordered out for term of three months – was discharged at Charles City (County) Courthouse some five days before the term of tour expired (perhaps 10 or 12 days) and that in December 1780 he entered the service as a Volunteer, the Company raised by Capt. Silvanus Walker [Sylvanus Walker]  – 1 Lieut. James Speed – 2nd Lieut Matthew F. Murry, Ensign Peter Stokes – (this CO was raised in the Counties of Lunenburg & Mecklenburg) and marched from thence to meet, and aid Genl Green [General Nathanael Greene], who was then flying before the enemy for want of Troops, and, in the Month of February 1781 Capt. Walker with his company, joined Genl. Greens’ Head Quarters, at the Red House in Caswell County, North Carolina (Known by the name of Dobbins’s) thence the Army marched in several zigzag directions until Wednesday evening March 14th [^ the camps at Guilford Courthouse] on Thursday 15th about between 11 Ocl.o [O'clock] A.M. and 1 P.M. the American Army commanded by Genl Green [General Greene], and the British army Commanded by Lord Cornwallis met, on an eminence in the woods, some small distance of S. [South] Guilford Courthouse in said State of N. Carolina, when and where, a bloody engagement took place, & continued several hours, in which Lieutenant Speed rec’d [received] a wound through his right side a little below his ribs, Lieutenant Murry, a ball through his left hip and by the vigilance of friends both brought off the field of action. The American army retreated to Freed’s Iron Works [[Speedwell’s Iron Works of Troublesome Creek about 15 mi NE] a distance from the scene of action and continued at said rendezvous until Monday the 19th of March on which day Genl Green with the Americans, Brigadier Genl Stevens, Colo. Nathaniel Cock [Nathaniel Cocke], Capt. Silvanus Walker, &c &c to whose Brigade, Ridgmt,[Regiment] and Company, this applicant now attached, took up the line of March in pursuit in enemy over took some scouts at Ramsey’s Mills [Ramsey’s Mill on Deep River, 19 Mar 1781] where skirmishes took place. Thence marched in various rouits [routes] untell [until] the 8th of Sept. 1781 met at Eutaw Springs when and where the American army commanded by Genl Green and the British, under Lord Cornwallis again confronted each other, in a bloody conflict of several hours, in which this applicant was discharged some time in the month of Sept. 1781, but through lapse of time, have lost or mislaid his discharges. He also states that he has no other evidence of his service as a revolutionary soldier, except that of Capt. Thomas Gains [Thomas Gaines, pension application W11048], whose affidavit and statement is

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herewith transmitted to the department. He hereby relinquishes all & every claim what ever was to a pention [pension], or annuity except the present, and declares that his name (to his knowledge or belief) is not on any Pention [pension] or agency of any state in the union. Sworn to and subscribed the day and year above written.
Thomas George

N.B. The Tour, 1778 was under Capt Wm Munford [William Munford] }
Lieut. Richard Dennis, field officers not remembered}
We John Norwell, and John Rowleth Sr. of the state of Kentucky and County of Oldham, do hereby certify that we have been acquainted with the above named Thomas George for upwards of thirty years, having lived in the same neighborhood where he resided in Virginia until he removed to Oldham in the state of Kentucky in the year 1822 and still lives in the same neighborhood, in Oldham County, Kentucky, is who has subscribed, and sworn to the above declaration, and have no doubt but that his age is as he has stated, and that here as reputed, and believed, where resided in Virginia, and is considered to be a man of honorable deportment, and Strick veracity, in the county and in the neighborhood where he now resides, and we have no hesitation in saying that we believe that he was a soldier in the revolution & in which opinion we concur. The above certificate subscribed and sworn to the day & date above written.
John Norwell
John Rowleth

I certify as a Justice of the Peace in and for Oldham County Kentucky that John Norwell & John Rowleth made oath before me to the above statements given under my hand as a justice aforesaid this 17th of September 1832.
Wm. Gatewood JP

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogation prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary solder and served as he states and the court further certifies that it appears to them that John Norwell and John Rowleth who have signed the preceding affidavit are residents in the county of Oldham and are creditable persons ad that their statement is entitled to credit.

T. T. Crittendon Ct. Judge

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State of Kentucky Oldham Circuit Feb the 18th 1827
I Albert M. Ballard deputy for Isaac R. Givathing clerk of the Oldham County Circuit Court in the state aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Thomas George for a pension.
In Testimony whereof I have hereto set my hand and seal of office this 18th day of Sept 1832 and in the 41st year of the commonwealth.
A.M. Ballard Deputy for Is. R. Givathing OCC


Thos George
Certificate
11240

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July 20, 1936

Mrs. A. C. Ehrhart
“Greenacre”
Mifflinburg, Pennsylvania

BA-J/ILL
Thomas George
S.16821
John Tupman
R. 104

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Thomas George of Virginia, and John Tupman of the Virginia State Navy.
The records of Thomas George and John Tupman are furnished herein as found in pension claims based upon service in the Revolutionary War.
THOMAS GEORGE-S. 16821
Thomas George was born October 17, 1759, in Amelia County, Virginia; the names of his parents were not shown. He moved from said Ameilia County, November 1, 1776, to Innenburg County, Virginia, and resided there during the period of the Revolutionary War.
Thomas Goerge enlisted in the summer or autumn of 1778, and served three months as private in Captain William Munford’s Virginia company, and was discharged at Charles City Court House. He enlisted in December 1780, served as a private in Captain Sylvania Walker’s company, Colonel Nathaniel Cocke’s Virginia regiment, was in the bathes of Guilford Court House, Rassour’s Mills, and Eutaw Springs and was discharged sometime in September 1781.
The soldier moved about the year 1822, from Virginia to Oldham County, Kentucky.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 18, 1832, at which time he resided in Oldham County, Kentucky. In September 1839, Thomas George was a resident of Jefferson County, Indiana, having moved there from Kentucky.

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No reference was made to wife or children of Thomas George.

JOHN TUPMAN – R. 104

John Tupman resided in Westmoreland County, Virginia, previous to the Revolutionary War. His age was not stated, nor the date and place of his birth and the names of his parents given.
John Tupman was a sailing master in the Virginia State Navy during the Revolutionary War, at one time was taken prisoner by the British, and continued in service until the reduction of that navy in 1781. The length of service and other details were not given.
About April 1798, he went on board a vessel bound for the West Indies, which vessel and crew were lost at sea, presumably about 1801; said John Tupman never returned.
John Tupman was survived by a widow, who died many years prior to 1834, whose name was not given, and also by two children, William Tupman of Adair County, Kentucky, in 1834 resided there still in 1844, and Nancy, who married Benjamin Settles; said Nancy was deceased in 1834, and was survived by four children, given in 1834, as Louisa, who married John Clark, Matilda, who married Thomas Smith, Emily, who married Thomas Stubbs, and Sally, who married Lonsey (?) or Sansey (?) Stubbs.
The Virginia half pay which was due on account of service of John Tupman, sailing master, Virginia Sate Navy, War of the Revolution, was allowed his heirs in 1847.
He was allowed 1000 acres of bounty land by the State of Kentucky on account of his service in the Virginia State Navy on warrant #213. Information regarding this land might be obtained from the Librarian, Virginia State Library, Richmond, Virginia.

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In 1834, William Settles, Senior, who was born in August 1765, resided in Adair County, Kentucky; he stated that he was well acquainted with John Tupman in Westmoreland County, Virginia, and that he saw him before he went away in 1798, but he did not state any relationship to the Benjamin Settles, who married Nancy Tupman.

Very truly yours,

A.D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.

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16.821

INVALID.

File No. 16,821
Thomas George
Pri. Rev. War
Act: June 7 ‘32
Index: - Vol. 1, Page 139
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Handwritten on other side
1911 Dec. 1 History to Miss Lethe L. Knight &
1911 Dec. 16 To Dr. Wm. E. George &
1912 Mar. 8 Thomas G. Vanstook &
1922 Mar. 9 Hist. to E.E. George
1922 Sept. 6 Hist. to J. W. Garnet &
1922 Sept. 19 Hon J.W. Gaines infd date & place of birth of Thos George not on record and
1936 July 20 – Hist. to Mrs. A.C. Ehrhart JCC

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APPLICATION FOR A TRANSFER
County of Jefferson SS.
On this Ninth day of September 1839., before me, the subscriber, a (handwritten – Notary Public) (crossed out Justice of the Peace) for the said County of Jefferson personally appeared Thomas George who, on his oath, declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the Company commanded by Captain Sylvanus Walker in the Regiment commanded by Colonel A. Cock in the service of the United States; that his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of Kentucky from whence he has lately removed; that he now resides in the State (District, or Territory,) of Indiana where he intends to remain, and wishes his pension to be there payable, in future. The follow-are his reasons for removing from Kentucky to Indiana that becoming a resident of Jefferson County Indiana would make it more convenient to draw his pension than to travel from Trimble County Ky to Lexington and more convenient with his advanced age.
Thomas George

Sworn and subscribed to before me,}
this day and year aforesaid.}
Isaac E. Lea Notary Public

The oath to be taken before a duly qualified Magistrate, whose official character and signature must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. The County Clerk, Secretary of State, or some other officer, must certify, under his seal of office, that the officer who administered the oath is a Justice of the Peace, Judge, Mayor, Alderman, or Notary Public, as the case may be, and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine.
The oath must be supported by the testimony of some respectable person, as to the pensioner’s identity. He must swear that the person who has taken the above oath, is the person described in the affidavit. The Magistrate must certify that the witness is a person of veracity; and the affidavit must also be authenticated in the manner above directed. 
In every case where the Clerk of the Court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should be sent with the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.-In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officers who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or small ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

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State of Indiana Jefferson County 
Be it known that on the 9th day of September 1839 before me a Notary Public in and for the county aforesaid personally appeared Shadrack Barnes a person of respectability and veracity and made oath that Thomas George who has made affidavit of his identity in the foregoing affidavit is the identical person named in an original certificate in his possession numbered 7390 and dated on the 9th day April one thousand eight hundred and thirty three and signed by Lewis Cass Secretary of War.
Shadrack Barnes

Sworn and subscribed this day and year first above written before me
Isaac C. Lea
Notary Public

The State of Indiana}
Jefferson County}SS

I John H. Tayler Clerk of the Circuit Court of said County, do hereby certify that Isaac C. Lea before whom the written and foregoing affidavit were subscribed and sworn to and who has certified the same was at that time and still is a Notary Public in and for said County duly commissioned and qualified and as such duly authorized to administer oaths, and that to his official acts as such full faith and credit are due and ought to be given – And that the signature attached to the certificates supporting to be his are

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Madison Sept. 9 1839

J. L. Edwards, Esq.
Comm. Of Pension,

Sir
At the request of Mr. Thomas George I enclose his application for transfer you will confer a favor by giving it your early attention and address him at this place.
Very respectfully,
Isaac C. Lea

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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Thomas George which require further proof or explanation.

1.  Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes

II.  Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes

III.  If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? 

IV.  Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes

V.  *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes

VI.  Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes 

VII.  Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes

VIII.  Has the Court given their opinion? Yes

IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes

X.  Is the Clerk’s seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes

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XI.  Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?  Witness who was in part of the service

XII.  If the cleryman’s affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?  No

XIII.  If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?  Yes

XIV.  +If the applicant’s name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?  Yes
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?  Yes
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?  Yes

XV.  Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant’s service?  Yes

XVI.  Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?  Authenticated

XVII.  Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not answered?  Answered
 
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
*QUERE V.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For          year             months, and               days, I served as a                For          months and              days, I served as a             ; and for such service I claim a pension.

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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectional.  Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable.  It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
+QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line in which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
+QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the Clerk of the Court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

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Free

J. L. Edwards, Esq.
Commr of Pensions
Washington City DC

Written sideways (Illegible) Oct 4
Stamped

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Northern Burke Kentucky
Pennington 26 Sept. 1839

J. L. Edwards, Esq.

Sir,
Thomas George, a pensioner on the roll of this agency, under Act of 7 June ’32 at $36.66 per annum was last paid here on 4 March 1839 & will not again be paid at this agency as requested in (Illegible) of 19 inst.
Respy
L. Qilford
By J. P. A. Gundead
Pen. Ms

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Genuine – In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of said County at Madison, this 9 day of September AD 1839
M. D. Tyler, Clerk
of the Court of Jefferson County

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Stamped - Madison In Sep. 22

Free

Lewis Cass Esq.
Sec. of War
Washington City DC

Written sideways – 11240 Kentucky Oct.

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State of Indiana
Madison Sept. 24th 1832

Lewis Cass, Esq. Sec. of War
Dear Sir, Mr. George an aged friend of yours, has this day requested that I should enclose his pension papers to you not withstanding this is not properly the proper channel, yet he flatters himself that you being a friend to the revolutionary soldier you will have his case duly attended to. 
Should his papers receive the sanction of the proper department, it is (Illegible) with that the certificate should be sent to me, or Mr. (Illegible last name) at this place, he wishes to be attached to the Kentucky agency.
Your attention to this will confer a great favor on Mr. George beside other of your warm friends. 
I am Sir your humble Servant
W. C. Wharton

L. Cass

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Thomas George
Affidavit

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State of Kentucky Green County Sct

On this 23rd day of August 1832 Thomas Gaines a resident citizen of Green County Ky came into the Green circuit Court in open court before the Judge of said county and being acquainted with Thomas Geoge now a citizen & resident of Oldham County Kentucky and that he recollects to have heard of his serving a tour in the militia, during the revolution, before the tour he will hereafter mention he was however not in the service with said George in the first tour, but does not doubt that he did service a tour in the militia of Virginia where he resided at the time. He states that the said George belonged to a company commanded by Capt. Sylvanus Walker from the county of Mecklenburg Virginia, that while said George was in the service, the company to which he belonged commanded by Capt. W. Mortan & by himself as lieutenant, met at the Red House called Dobbins’ in North Carolina and marched together to Guilford Courthouse in said state, and the said George and himself were in said battle, that he saw him in the engagement, acting as a good soldier, he frequently saw him before & after said action he thinks they met at Dobbins in February & he continued to see said George in the service until he was discharged at Cape Fear, but the said George continued longer in the service on that occasion than he did, he has understood he continued in said tour of duty about eight months, he was with him for about two months this was in the year 1781.

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The said George and himself, were both young men & lived in the same neighborhood in Virginia, in the time of the Revolution, and he has no hesitation in saying that said George is a gentleman of honor (Illegible) deportment, & strict veracity. Sworn to & subscribed the day & date above states.
Thos Gaines

At a circuit court commenced and held for the given circuit at the courthouse in Greensburg on the 23rd day of August 1832.
The affidavit of Thomas Gaines as to the services of Thomas George as a revolutionary soldier was produced to the court and sworn to by the said Gaines which is ordered & certified and it is also certified by the court that the said Thomas Gaines is a person of veracity and respectability.
I John Barret Clerk of the Green circuit court do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true copy of the proceedings in this case.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my said office. This 28th day of August 1832.
John Barret CCC

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Date Mar. 20 1916
Name Thos George            No. S16821
Va troops Rev. War
Photographic copies wanted of 2
pieces, consisting of 5 pages
Remarks

Exr. WE Wilson    Chief Rev. War Section
APPROVED

Serial
No. 1369

Chief, Law Division
over

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Hon John Wesley Gaines
Hotel Bellevue
McPherson Square
Wash. D.C. 
paid in person for 
these photos, to Mr.
Burrows Law Div.
Mar. 17, 1916
& they were mailed 
to above address
Mar. 17, 1916

See receipts for 
payment in
James Gaines
Va. W. 25652

over

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DC July 10

GREENACRE	MIFFLINBURG		PENNSYLVANIA

June 22 ‘36
Veterans Administration
Bureau of Pensions
Wash. D.C.

Dear Sir:
Will you please advise me of John Tupman, (Va.) who served in the Navy during the Rev. war ever received or applied for a pension. I found him listed thus – John Tupman (N.) Auditors Acct. Books XVIII, 220, 463, and Acct. XXV (p. 445. Rev. Sol. Of Va. Vol. Va. Lib. Regt) Any additional data you have about him I will greatly appreciate having.
Thank you. I should like to know if

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More
Thomas George (va.) ever applied for or received pension for services in the Revolutionary War.
Thank you
Yours truly
Mrs. A.C. Ehrhart
Mifflinburg, Pa.

Stamped – RECEIVED 
JUN 23 1936
MAIL SUB-DIV
VETS ADM
READER #12

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604 S. 13th East St.
Salt Lake City, Utah
Nov. 22nd 1926

Dept. of Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sirs:
I desire to obtain an exact copy of the pension certificate of Thomas George, Revolutionary soldier of Virginia Troops, in order to make application for membership in the D.A.R. (possible these letters may help in looking it up – J.S.C. Sur file 16821, Rev. War.) if there is any fee

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attached to this service I shall be very glad to forward same upon receipt of information.

Yours truly,
(Mrs.) Phoebe Van H. Anderson
604-S. 13th East St.
Salt Lake City, Utah

8 pages

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Stamped – PENSION 
K
MAR
1
1912
U. S.
OFFICE

Ack 
Mr.

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Corydon, Ind. Feb. 28/1912.

Hon. J. L. Davenport, Com. Pensions,
Washington D.C.

Hon, Sir; 
I am looking up the military record of Asa Bellows 11-0 case, soldier in Revolution from Connecticut.  He died in Connecticut and his widow moved to Indiana. Her maiden name was Lydia Killam. If either of them ever made application for a pension, I would be pleased to have a copy of his military record as contained in application.
Also, I would appreciate like information concerning Thomas George, a soldier of Revolution from Virginia who, I have been told drew a pension.
Very Respectfully,
Thomas G. Van Hook
Corydon, Indiana

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Stamped – RECORD DIVISION NOV 27 1911

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November 23, 1911

Pension Bureau Department,
Pension Building Revolutionary Entry,
Washington, D. C.

Gentlemen: -
I have learned through relatives of mine, the Georges, that my great great grandfather George and one or more sons served in the ever memorable Revolutionary War.
Thus far I have been unable to ascertain the Christian name of my great great grandfather George. My great Grandmother Mary George – Branch – English was one of his daughters. She was born March 19, 1775, married William Branch November 4, 1789. Then several years after death of Great Grandfather Wm. Branch was married to Roberts S. English and died July 17, 1842.
Thomas George was also a son of great great grandfather George and was born Oct. 17, 1759, married Feb. 27 1783 to Betty Wren, both of Lunenburg Co., Virginia and he did Feb. 9, 1822.
Now the missing link that I am trying to find in my chain of ancestry is my great great grandfather George’s Christian name as I am desirous of becoming a D. A. R. and will have to have this information.  Therefore, beg to inquire if you can enlighten myself upon this subject? 
I have given you the name of my great grandmother and one of her brothers Thomas George and the county and state they were born in thinking it might be of some help to you

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#2.
will you kindly send me a copy of the Revolutionary Record of Thomas George’s Father or my Great Great Grandfather George? 
Thanking you in advance for this information and your kindness, I beg to remain,
Yours very truly,
Miss Lethe L. Knight.
#489 E. Columbus Street
Martinsville, Indiana

Stamped – PENSION D. NOV 27 1911 U. S. OFFICE



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Stamped - RECORD DIVISION DEC 11 1911

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Dr. William E. George
Pennway Building
Indianapolis

December Eight
Nineteen-eleven

J. L. Davenport Esq.,
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir:-
I am desirous of obtaining a statement of the military history of my Great Grandfather, who was a solider in the Revolutionary War, and who was afterwards a pensioner because of such service.
His name was Thomas George, and he enlisted soon after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, his place of residence at that time being Lunenburg County, Virginia, but I think his application for pension was made from Oldham Co., Kentucky.
Kindly give me all facts available as to his family, military service, and such places of residence as may be of record and if a fee is in order, I will remit upon receipt of statement of same.
Address as above, and oblige

Yours truly,
William E. George

WEG/GG

Stamped – PENSION OFFICE U.S. DEC 11 1911

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CITY OF PHILADELPHIA; DEPARTMENT OF CITY TRANSIT; VALUATION DIVISION; SUBWAY CONSTRUCTION DIVISION; 1211 CHESTNUT STREET PHILADELPHIA
WILLIAM S. TWINING; DIRECTOR; FRANK R. FISHER ENGINEER OF SUBWAY CONSTRUCTION; GEORGE T. ATKINSON ASSISTANT DIRECTOR; DION MARTINEZ PRINCIPAL ASSISTANT ENGINEER

SUBJECT:  Pension Record of Revolutionary Soldiers
February ninth, 1922
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:--
Can you give me any information regarding age, parentage, birth place, or place of enlistment of Thomas George, a private in the Revolutionary War, pensioned under the Act of 1832, presumable pensioned from Lunenburg County, Virginia, and who moved to Oldham or Henry County, Kentucky, about the same time.
I understand that his name is given in the War Department’s pension reports of 1835.  The records of Virginia soldiers in the Adjutant-General’s Office do not contain his name, but these records are not complete. I have access to most of the Virginia State Library publications but would prefer to establish definitely the State and County of enlistment before getting further information from the State records.  I have the original certification stating that the above named Thomas George was entitled to a pension of $36.00 per annum; this is signed by Lewis Cass.  All documents relating to this pension are dated between 1828 and 1833.
Because of the fact that certification was made entitling Thomas George to a pension, I presume that the Pension Office might have some records regarding the service record or personal history of the applicant.
Thanking you very kindly for any information or advice you may be able to give me, I am

Respectfully yours,

E. E. George

EEG-WD.
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OFFICE MAIN 5528
RESIDENCE HEF.4485-J.
JOHN W. GAINES
ATTORNEY AT LAW
603 STAHLMAN BUILDING
NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE

Aug. 24, 1922

Hon. Comm. Pensions:
Thos George (Va & Ky) was burrowed for services in the Revolutionary War while he resided, I think, in Kentucky.
Please send me a digest of the file in his case showing all genealogical data, & especially where he was born, county & state, the (Illegible) under where he (Illegible) & (Illegible) he was in and the substance of the evidence on file in his case, if any, by Thomas Gaines (Va & Ky).
I hope you are well and enjoying the High Place you fill.
Your friend,
Jno W. Gaines

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Rec
OFFICE MAIN 5528
RESIDENCE HEF.4485-J.
JOHN W. GAINES
ATTORNEY AT LAW
603 STAHLMAN BUILDING
NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE
Stamped – RECORD DIVISION SEP. 14 1922
September 8TH, 1922
Hon. Washington Gardner,
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:
Yours of the 6th instant “In Re: Pension data Thomas George of Oldham County, Kentucky” received which also continued some of the evidence of Thomas Gaines, one of his witnesses; but you omitted to state in what county in Virigina Thomas Gaines was born which is vitally important for me to know.  Please look at the George file again and if he states the county in which he was born, please give me the name. the pension papers of Thomas Gaines themselves did not make it clear to me, when I looked at them, as to what county in Virginia he (Thomas Gaines) was born and hence I burden you with this additional inquiry.
I would be very grateful if you would assert in this fact for me as herein requested.

Yours very truly,
Jno W. Gaines,

JWG:CG

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Record Division.

December 1, 1911

Miss Lethe L. Knight,
489 East Columbus Street
Martinsville, Ind.

Madam:
In reply to your letter dated the 23rd and received the 27th ultimo, you are advised that this Bureau is unable to furnish the (Illegible ink smear) of a soldier of the Revolution unless a claim has been filed on account of his services, and the Revolutionary War pension records fail to show that such a claim was ever filed for the father of Thomas George, Sur. File No. 16,821, Rev. War.
It is possible that the records of Amelia County, Virginia where the said Thomas was born, may afford some information regarding his parents.
Very respectfully,

Commissioner

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Rev. War Section.

Sept. 19, 1922

Hon. John W. Gaines,
603 Stahlman Building
Nashville, Tenn.

Sir:
In response to your letter of the 8th instant, you are advised that in the Revolutionary war pension claim, S. 16821, of Thomas George, the date and place of birth of Thomas Gaines are not on record.
Very respectability,

Chief clerk

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Rev. & 1812 Wars
Section.

December 11, 1926

Mrs. P. Van H. Anderson,
604-S. 13th East St.
Salt Lake City, Utah.

Madam:

I have to advise you, that if you wish photostat copies of the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 16821, of Thomas George of the Va. Troops, the same will be furnished at the rate of fifteen cents a page, with twenty-five cents extra for a certification, if that is desired. The number of pages to be copied is eight.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this Bureau by money order, or certified check, drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior, (not to the order of the Commissioner of Pensions).
Respectfully,

WINFIELD SCOTT,
Commissioner.

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In reply to your request of              , received            for a statement of the military history of Thomas George a soldier of the Revolutionary War, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (this is crossed out - or his widow’s) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
S. file 16,821
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. 1778
LENGTH OF SERVICE. 3 Mos.
RANK. Pvt
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN. Wm. Munford
COLONEL.       ; STATE. Va.
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. Dec. 1780; 
LENGTH OF SERVICE. To Sept. 1781
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN. Sylvanus Walker
COLONEL. Nathaniel Cocke; STATE. Va.
Battles engaged in, Guilford C.H.; Ramsours Mills & Eutaw Springs
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Lunenburg Co. Va.
Date of application for pension, Sept. 18, 1832, Allowed
Residence at date of application, Oldham Co. Ky
Age at date of application, b. Oct. 17, 1759, Ameila Co., Va.
Remarks: In Sept 1839 he resided in Jefferson Co., Ind. There is no data on file as to family
The following was added in report to Jno W. Gaines Sept. 6 ’22 need not be used again.  “Thos Gaines of Greene Co., Ky on Aug 23, 1832, testifies that he was Liet. In Capt. Wm. Morton’s Co. where Thos George was in Capt. S. Walkers Co & that they marched together and were engaged in the battle of Guilford. Also that he was with Thos George about two months in 1781. Officers not stated”
Very respectfully,

Commissioner.