Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 4053, for Harwood Pope, North Carolina

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North Carolina

Pope, Harwood
 Pope, Elizabeth

W. 4053

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North Carolina 30.130.
Harwod Pope
of Davidson in the State of North C.
who was a pri. in the Compy commanded
by Captain Sack of the Regt commanded
by Col Palmer in the North C. 
line for 6 months prt.
Inscribed on the Roll of North C.
at the rate of 20 Dollars 00 Cents per annum
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 21 day of Aug
1835 and sent to Chs. Brummell, Brummells P. O. D. Coty NC
Arrears to the 4th of Mar 33 $80.00  
Semi-an. allowance ending 4 Sep. 10.00
90.00
Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832. 
Recorded by J W Clagett Clerk
Book E Vol. 6.2 Page 69
⎬

Letter to 3 Audit 16th Oct 1839
Paid at the Treasury under 
 the act of the 6 April 1838
from 4 Sept 1835 to 4. Sept. 1837 Agt. notified 3 Nov. 1838


Paid as above  from 4 Sept.
1837 to 4 March 1838 Agt.
notified 4 June 1839
-
.
Paid as above from 4 March
1838 to 4 March 1839 agent
notified 1 May 1840

Paid as above from 4 March to 
4 Sep 1839. Agt Notified 9 June
1840

Paid at the Treasury under as above from 4 Sept. 1830 to 4 Sept. 1840 agt. notified 26 May 1840

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State of North Carolina
Davidson County

             On the 26th day of May 1835 personally
appeared before me Valentine  Hoover a Justice of the
Peace in and for the County aforesaid Harwood Pope a
resident of the County and State aforesaid aged Seventy
three years who being first duly sworn according to law
doth on his oath make the following declaration in
order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed
June 7th 1832 that he entered the Service of the United
States under the following named officers and served as 
herein stated.
          In the month of June 1781 the applicant there
residing in the County of Granville State of North Carolina
entered the Militia Service of a Substitution for Thomas ?a???y 
and was placed under the command of the following named
officers at Granville Court house. Shadrack Parish Capt.
John Lock Lieutenant William Shaw Ensign From
Granville Court house they marched through the western
part of North Carolina to Salisbury in Rowan County
where they remained a few days from thence they
then marched to Charlotte in Mecklenburg County
From thence they marched to Camden South Carolina
From Camden they marched to Thompsons Fort S.C.
on their march from Camden to Fort Thompson they
joined a regiment under the command of Colonel
Palmer from Wake County N.C. During this march
they fell in with the army under the Command of General
Green. They were stationed a few days at Thompsons
Fort. From Thompsons Fort they marched to the 
Eutaw Springs where they were engaged in a battle
fought on the 8th day of September 1781 between
the American Army commanded by  Genl. Green and
the British Army commanded by Col. Stuart--
after the Battle at the Eutaw Springs they made
various excurtions in quest of the Tories who viry
much infested that part of of the country  After having
Swarmed the county for some time they marched to
Camden where the claimant States he was discharged
but did not receive a written discharge this was in 
the month of December 1781 During this campaign
he served Six months. The Claimant states that he
knew Col. Howard and Col. Williams who were
regular officers and there were many others whom he knew
whose names he does no recollect

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He states that he was born in 1762 in Halifax 
County North Carolina and that he has no record
of his age   he states that he has resided in the
County of Franklin and Davidson since the 
Revolutionary War. He states that he es well known to
John Thomas William Sullivan William Carroll and
Pettis Finch who can testify as to his character for
veracity and their belief of his services as a soldier
of the Revolution. He states that he has no documentary
evidence and that he knows of no person
whose testimony he can procure who can testify
to his service.

Harwood Pope

He hereby relinquishes every claim
whatever to a pension or annuity except the present
and declares that his name is not on the
pension roll of the agency of any State
Sworn and subscribed
e day and year aforesaid

Val Hoover  J.P.

I Valentine Hoover a Justice of the Peace in and
for the County aforesaid do hereby certify the
above named applicant is unable to attend court in
consequence of bodily infirmity

Val Hoover   J. P.

We David Hepler and Charles Mock residing in
the County of Davidson and State of North Carolina
hereby certify that we are well acquainted with
Harwood Pope who has subscribed and sworn
to the above declaration that we believe him
to be Seventy three years of age that he is reputed
and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides
to have been a soldier of the Revolution and
that we concur in that opinion.

David Hepler
Charles Mock

Sworn and subscribed 
the day and year aforesaid

Val Hoover  J.P.

The applicant states that there is no clergyman
residing in his immediate neighbourhood
whose certification he can procure and I certify
the same

Val Hoover   J.P.

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I Valentine Hoover the undersigned hereby 
declare my opinion after the investigation  of this 
matter and after putting the interrogations
prescribed by the War Department that above
named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier
and served as he states And I further
certify that it appears to me that David
Hepler and Charles Mock who have signed the
preceding certificate are residents in the County
of Davidson N.C. and are credible persons and
that their statement is entitled to credit

Val Hoover  J.P.

State of North Carolina
Davison County

     I Samuel Gaither Clerk of the County Court
of Davidson County do hereby certify that Val Hoover
is an acting Justice of the Peace for said County
duly commissioned & qualified & that the signature 
purporting to be his is genuine. In testimony
Whereof I have hereunto set my hand
& affixed the Seal of the said
court at Office the 26 day
of May 1835

Samuel Gaither   C.C.C.

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4968
North Carolina
Elizabeth Pope
widow of Harwood Pope
N C
who served in the Revolutionary war
, as a private
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of
20 Dollars
Cents per annum, to commence on
the 4th day of March, 1848.
Certificate of Pension issued the
23 day of July 1849
and sent to
James Huske
Fayetteville N. C.
.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
February 2, 1848, Page 239
Vol. 1

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Declaration

In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress
of the 7th July, 1838, entitled an act granting half
pay and pensions to certain widows.
          On this first day of June, one thousand eight
hundred and forty three personally appeared before me the
undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the County
of Davidson N.C. Elizabeth Pope a resident in the County of
Davidson N.C. aged seventy four years, who being first duly
sworn, according to law, doth, on her oath, make the
following the declaration, in order to obtain the benefit 
of the provision made by the act of Congress passed
July 7, 1838, entitled. An act granting half pay and 
pensions to certain widows: That she is the widow 
of Harwood Pope who was a soldier (a private) in
the revolutionary war. To the best of her recollection he
served in the army commanded by Gen. Green in North
and South Carolina & was enjoyed in the battle fought
at the Eutaw Springs South Carolina. The period and
particulars of her husbands service she says she can
not recollect, but which will fully appear by
reference to the declaration of her husband Harwood
Pope filed in the War Department, which declaration
contains the evidence upon which the said Harwood
Pope pensioned under the act of Congress of June
8, 1832.      She further declares that she was married
to the said Harwood Pope on the 6th day
of May in the year seventeen hundred and eighty five. That her husband,
the aforesaid Harwood Pope died on the 6th day
of October one thousand eight hundred and forty two.
That she was not married to him prior to his leaving
the service, but the marriage took place previous to
the first of January, seventeen hundred and ninety four, viz; at 
the time above stated

Elizabeth    Pope
          her X mark

Sworn to & subscribed on the
day & year above written
before me

Peter Riley   J.P.

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We Reuben May & John S. Sullivan residing in Davidson
County State of North Carolina, hereby certify that we have
for many years, been intimately acquainted with the
late Harwood Pope above named & his wife Elizabeth
Pope who has subscribed and sworn to the above
declaration: That they have been reputed & believed in
the neighborhood where they resided to have been--
legally married before the year 1794 & that we
concur in that opinion. We further certify that
the said Harwood Pope departed this life on the 6th
day of October eighteen hundred and forty two and
that his wife the said Elizabeth Pope has not
married since  his death.

Reuben May   

John S. Sullivan

Sworn & subscribed before
the day & year above written
Before Peter Riley  J.P.

I Peter Riley a Justice of the Peace in & 
for the County of Davidson hereby certify that Reuben
May & John S. Sullivan  Who have signed the preceding
certificate are residents in the County of Davidson State 
of North Carolina and are credible persons & that
their statement is entitled to credit.
     I further certify that Elizabeth Pope, the above
named applicant, cannot from bodily infirmity
attend Court 1st June 1843

Peter Riley   J.P.

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State of North Carolina
Davidson County

I Charles Mock Clerk of the Court of Pleas and
Quarter Sessions for said County do certify
that Peter Riley is a Justice of the Peace
for said County duly commissioned
and qualified and that the foregoing
signature purporting to be his is genuine

In Testimony whereof I 
have hereunto set my hand
and affixed the seal of the said
Court at office the 13th day of
June 1843..

Charles Mock   C.C.C.

State of North Carolina
Davidson County

On this seventeenth day of October one thousand eight hundred
and forty three personally appeared before the undersigned
a Justice of the Peace in & for said County
Elizabeth Pope who being first duly sworn according to law
doth on her oath declare that there is not within her knowledge
any Record evidence of a public or private character
or documentary testimony by  which she can establish
the date of her marriage with Harwood Pope as mentioned
in the foregoing declaration.

Elizabeth     Pope
         Her  X  mark

Sworn & subscribed the day
& year above written

before me

Peter Riley   J.P.

I Jacob Riggins residing Davidson County State of North
Carolina do certify that Harwood & Elizabeth Pope mentioned
in the foregoing declaration were lawfully married

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in the Spring of the year Seventeen hundred and eighty five
in County of Franklin State of North Carolina. I further
certify that Elizabeth Pope whose subscribed foregoing
declaration is the identical Elizabeth Pope who was
the wife of the late Harwood Pope mentioned
in the preceding declaration & is now his widow

Jacob Riggins

Sworn & subscribed 
this 17th day of October 1843
before me Peter Riley   J.P.

[9449]

I Peter Riley a Justice of the Peace in & for the County
of Davidson & State of North Carolina hereby certify that
Jacob Riggins who has signed the preceding certificate
is a resident in Davidson County State of 
North Carolina & is a credible person & that his
statement is entitled to credit.
I further certify that Elizabeth Pope who has sworn to and
subscribed the foregoing declaration cannot on account 
of bodily infirmity attend Court. Oct 17th 1843

Peter Riley   J.P.

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10356

North Carolina

Elizabeth Pope

Widow of Harwood Pope
who was a pensioner under the Act of 1832
and who died on the 6th Oct. 1842
of Davidson in the State of N.C.
who was a Private in the Company
commanded by Captain Slack o the 
Regt commanded by Col. Palmer in'
the Revolution for 6 months

Inscribed on the Roll of N.C.
at the rate of 20 Dollars--
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of
March, 1836 under the Joint Reso.
of 23rd Jany 1843


Certificate of Pension issued the 29 day of
Oct 1847 and sent by J H Noyes Esq. Present

Total amount,     $ 100.00

[Act July 7, 1838.]

Recorded by Th. Pumpkin Clerk,
Book D  Vol. 1  Page 297

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Rept
Paid at the Treasury under the
Act 6 April 1838 from
4 March to 6. Oct 1842 agt.
notified 24 Oct 1844
cer. issued under
Joint Reso
see within
Letter to Pen Agt 25
March 1848

5816
North Carolina
Elizabeth Pope
widow of Harwood Pope who died
6. Oct 1842
who was a Private
in the Revolution
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of
20 Dollars
Cents per annum, to commence on
the 4th day of March, 1843.

Certificate of Pension issued the
9. day of July 1844
and sent to Charles Brummell
Brummell
N. C.
(Act of March 3, 1843.)
Recorded in Book A.
Vol. 1 Page 204.

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V 9449
Eliz'h Pope
N.C
Suspended
Let. tp Chs. Brummell Oct 4  43
"   "    "   "   Oct. 20 [illegible]
the act July 7 1838

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State of North Carolina
Franklin County
   
                    I William S Perry Clerk 
of the Court of Please & Quarter Sessions for the aforesaid County
certify that I have examined and made due search
for the marriage Bond of Howard Pope and there is
no such Bond to be found in my office

In Testimony whereof I have herein
to set my hand and affixed the seal
of my office at Louisburg this 15 day
of November A.D. 1843

W. I. Perry   Clk

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Treasury Department,
Second Comptroller's Office,
Oct 29 1838

Sir:

Under the act of 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An
act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain
Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury
of the United States," Harwood Pope
a Pensioner on the Roll of the Fayetteville N.C. Agency, at
the rate of Twenty Dollars 
per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832 has
been paid at this Department, from the 4 of Sept. 1835
in the 4 Sept. 1837.

Respectfully yours,

Albion K. Parris

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
Second Comptroller's Office
June 4, 1840
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Harwood Pope a Pensioner on the Roll of the N. Carolina Agency, at the rate of Twenty Dollars per annum under the law of the 4th June 1832, has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of March 1839 to the 4th Sept. 1839.
Respectfull yours,
Albion K. Parris Comptroller
To the Commissioner of Pensions, Present.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
Second Comptroller's Office
May 8th, 1839
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838 entitled "An
act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Harwood Pope a Pensioner on the Roll of the North Carolina Agency, at the rate of Twenty Dollars per annum, under the law of the 7th June, 1832, has been paid at this Department from the 4th of Sept., 1837 to the 4th March 1838,
Respectfully, yours
J. Seaver
Acting Comptroller
To the Commissioner of Pensions, Present.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
Second Comptroller's Office
May 17th, 1841
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An
act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain
Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury
of the United States", Harwood Pope
a Pensioner on the Roll of the N. Carolina Agency, at the rate of Twenty
Dollars and --- Cents
per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832, has
been paid at this Department, from the of Sept. 1839
to the 4th Sept. 1840

Respectfully yours
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.

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Oct 8 47
Appl. Elizabeth Pope
[illegible] reso'l. 23 Jany 1845

J. L. Edwards Esq'r.
Comm. of Pensions
Washington City

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Washington
Oct 5, 1847

I. L Edwards Esq
Comm of Pensions

Sir
                   I enclose you
an application of Elizabeth Pope widow of Harwood
Pope a soldier of the Revolution and late of
Davidson Co. North Carolina asking benefit of the Joint
Resolution January 23rd 1855

Respectfully

J. H. Noyes

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Fayetteville
July 12th 1849
Dear Sir
You will find enclosed Mrs Elizabeth Pope's
"Declaration"s, in Certificate. You will please forward to my care and [illegible]. 
[illlegible] In
[illegible] [illegible] [illegible]
James Huske

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
SECOND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE,
Dec, 5th, 1843,
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An Act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States, and the third section of the Act of August 23, 1842, extending the time within which pensioners may receive their pensions from the pension agents, The widow of Harwood Pope decd., a Pensioner on the Roll of the N. Carolina
Agency, at the rate of twenty Dollars per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832 has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of March, to the 6th Oct. 1842
Respectfully, yours
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller.
To the COMMISSIONER OF PENSIONS,
Present.

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Pension Office
Fayetteville March 7th 1848
James L. Edward Esquire
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir
[illegible] the papers of
Margaret Lewis Act of 44 9 mos. 28  28 of
$16.52
Elizabeth Pope   "  12 mo.      20.
which pleased to be paid
respectfully
[illegible]
J Huske   [illegible]

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9449,
Elizabeth Pope
N.C
Act July 7th 38

H M Brummell Esqr.
Port [illegible]
Brummells
Davidson County NoCa.
Louisburg NC
Aug. 14th 1848
Free

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State of North Carolina
Franklin County

               I Shemuel Cooke of the County
and State aforesaid hereby certify that Elizabeth
Bowers (now Elizabeth Pope widow of Harwood Pope
late of the County of Davidson State of North Carolina)
was married to the said Harwood Pope in Franklin
County North Carolina by Thomas Sherrod Esquire sometime
between the years 1784 and 1786. Sworn and subscribed
to the 4th day of August . Anno Domini 1843 before
me.

Shemuel Cook

B.F. Foster   J.P.

State of North Carolina
Franklin County

               I  Young Patterson
holding the office of Clerk of the Court of Please
and quarter sessions of the County aforesaid hereby
certify that B.F.Foster esquire whose signature
is above is one of the acting Justices of the Peace
of the aforesaid County This 12th August 1843

Y. Patterson   D.C.C.C.

State of North Carolina
Franklin County

               I Young Patterson

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holding the office of Clerk of the Court of
Pleas and quarter session of the County aforesaid
hereby certify that due search and inquiry hath
been made and that there is no marriage Bond
of Harwood Pope in this office this 12th August
1843
Y. Patterson D.C.C.C

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Louisburg 12th Aug. 1843
Mr. H. W. Brummell
Sir
Annexed is the certificate of Shemuel Cooke relative to the Marriage of Harwood Pope. Mr Cook was at the Marriage but is unable to state the precise time, but is confident it took place within the time specified in the Certificate. The Marriage can be established by three other persons one of them Claiborne Cook the Brother of Shemuel who resides in Granville County the other two are Rhady Jones & Katharine Hill, both of this County - should the certificate of Shemuel Cook be insufficient I will attend to the taking of the others immediately after hearing from you I shall however be absent from home about three weeks - neither of the the above mentioned recollects the precise time when the marriage
took place, but were all present and witnessed it
Mr. Shemuel Cook is a man of good character and his statement on each would not be questioned where he is known - My Mother was present but of tender years, she has no particular
recollection of the time further than she was told that she was eight years old I concluded not
to take her certificate, present me to my Aunt
Yours Respectfully
Wm H. Strother

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No 370.   556
Elizabeth Pope
Widow of Harwood
NC
act 7 July 1838 and
Joint resolution of 23
January 1845
[illegible] 6 mo pri
$20.00 per an.
from 4 March 1836 to
4 March 1841
J. H. Noyes
Present

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Revy WIDOW, &c.
File No. 4053

Elizth Pope 
Wid
Harwood Pope
---
Pri Rev. War
---
Act: Feby, 27 48
Index: -- Vol. M, Page 135 ┃
[Arrangement of 1870.]

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
Second Comptroller's Office
April 20th 1840
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An
act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain
Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury
of the United States,"
Harwood Pope a Pensioner on the Roll of the N. Carolina Agency, at the rate of
Twenty Dollars and ---  Cents
per annum, under the law of the 7 June 1832, has
been paid at this Department, from the
to the 4th March 1838 to the 4th March 1839
Respectfully, yours,
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions
Present.

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9449
Elizabeth Pope
Widow of Harwood
N C
Act 7 July 1838
[illegible] died 1842
Admd act 3 March 1843
$20-
---
6129
Chs. Brummell Esq
Brummell
N.C

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Declaration
In order to obtain the benefits of the Resolution of Congress of the 23d of
January 1845
Whereas the act of the 30th April 1844 prohibited me from
drawing a pension for the same period during which my husband
was a pensioner. I now make the following statement under
oath in order to obtain the benefits of the resolution abovementioned
I am the widow of Harwood Pipe who was a
soldier of the Revolution. I have drawn a pension
at the rate of twenty dollars per annum from the 4th day
of March 1843 and now ask for the amount due me from
from the 4th day of March 1836 to the 4th day of March 1841
Signed in presence of
Peter Riley Jr.
Elizabeth Pope
her Mark
-
Sworn to and subscribed before me on this 8th
day of July
in the year one thousand Eight hundred and forty seven at
Davidson County, North Carolina
Peter Riley Justice of the Peace
I certify that the declarant is personally known to me and that she is the same individual she represents herself to
be in the foregoing affidavit
P. Riley
Justice of the Peace

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State of North Carolina
Davidson County
I Cicero F Lowe Clerk of the Court of
Pleas and Quarter Sessions for Davidson County do hereby
certify that Peter Riley is an acting Justice of the Peace
in & for said County that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine & that full faith and credit should be given to his act as such. In testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my hand
and affixed my seal of Office
the 9th day of July A.D. 1847
C. F. Lowe C.C.C.

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Declaration
State of North Carolina
Davidson County
On this the 28th day of June 1849 Personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in & for said County Elizabeth Pope a resident of Davidson County, aged Eighty years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by Act of Congress passed on 2 Feby 1848, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War, that she is the Widow of Harwood Pope, who was a Private, and that she received a pension of Twenty Dollars per annum, under the Act of 17th of June 1844. She further declares that she is still a widow-
Sworn & Subscribed on the day & year above written by me
Elizabeth Pope  her Mark X
Witness
JW Thomas, J of Peace 
David Loftin
I certify that the above named affiant is personally known to me, & that she is the identical person as represented by her, in the [illegible] declaration -
J.W. Thomas, J of Peace

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State of North Carolina
Davidson County
I, C. F. Lowe
Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions
for Davidson County, certify that J. w. 
Thomas is a Magistrate as above, and that the
foregoing signature purporting to be his, are,
genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto
affixed my seal of
Office, and subscribed
my name, this 4th day of June 1849
C. F. Lowe Clk

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[illegible] 27 45
N.C.

Ely Pope
5816
FREE
J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City

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Lexington, Jan 24th 1844
Davidson Co. N.C.
Dear Sir
Mrs. Elizabeth Pope widow of
Harwood Pope late of this County who was
revolutionary pensioner has just applied to me to procure for
her if possible some information
concerning the pension of her late
husband & the amount to which
she is entitled as his widow

The late Mr. Brummell of this County
had charge of the business in her
behalf but unfortunately died
before the proceedings were consummated
I learn that Mr. Brummell transmitted
to the department Pope's certificate of
service together with the evidence
required by the rules of the pension
office & act drew the pay for one
year in behalf of the widow
It seems
Pope served under General Green
& was at the ball of Eutaw Springs
that his term of service was short so
much so as to entitle him to a pension
of only $20. which he regularly received
during his life. He died in Oct. 1842
& in 1843 application was made in
behalf of his widow by Mr. Brummell as
above stated. She received $20. & has
not had any thing since.
Mr. Brummell was
under the impression that there was

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some mistake as regards the amount to
which she was entitled & that the sum
ttransmitted
to the agency at Fayetteville
was not in contemplation of the law of
1838 & 1843. Among the other proofs
furnished by Mr. Brummell I understand
that he furnished evidence of the
marriage since the war & before Jan.
1794.-- which circumstance would
perhaps entitle the widow under the
act of 1838.
If such error
exists the object of this communication
is to seek its correction & at the same
time to learn what amount she
is entitled to under any later laws
I see from the newspapers that the
subject is before Congress now & as
the laws of congress for the last 4 years
have not reached us here I can only
get this information from the
department
your answer to this
will very much oblige your ob't. serv't.
J. L. Clemmons
J. L. Edwards Esqr

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Brummell NC
Aug 14th

free

Mr. J. L. Edwards Com of Pensions
Pension office war Dept.
Washington City

Aug 10
Sylvester

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Davidson Co N.C
July 24th 1835
Sir Sometime Since &
received a letter from the Department stating the
objection to Harwood Pope's claim to a pension
that is that he says he served six months without any intermission. I have seen the old man since I rec'd.
and the letter and he states that he did serve two
terms but forgot to mention it when I wrote the
declaration. By a reference to the Declaration you will
see that he first entered the service as a substitute I then
requested him to state the time and place that entered, his officer
the country through which he marched and all the important
circumstances of campaign, not knowing that it was
necessary to state that he served twelve and I was
not apprised of it it was omitted in that way
he States that after the three months expired during which
he served as a substitute he directly entered the service
as a Volunteer & served three months more. Some time before he applied for a pension he wrote to two
men in Franklin Co one of whom had served with
him the other knew when he entered the Service and
when he returned home he wished to get their certificates
the one that was in the service is dec'd. he wrote to them
three months ago and not receiving an answer  he
presumed they were both dead but since he sent
his declaration to the Department he has receive the
certificate of Sherm Cooke which is enclosed if
that is not sufficient proof please to inform
me what course to pursue to for I presume there
is no doubt but that Mr. Pope was a soldier
in the revolution
Please to write me as soon
as you can
yours & C
Chas. Brummell

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Harwood Pope
NC
Rejected
[illegible] Chs. Brummell
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June 26 183.-
did not serve 6 mo
Admit 6 mo for
$20-
Act Jan 7 1835

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Brummell N C
May 28th     Free
June 2nd
Mr. J. L. Edwards
Pension Office
Washington City

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Davidson Co N.C. May 28th 1835
Sir
Enclosed is the Declaration
of
Harwood Pape made in conformity with the requisitions of the War
Department. The Declaration was
made before a Justice of the Peace owing
to the inability of the applicant to attend
a Court of Record. There is the [illegible] certificate
to that effect. If the claims
of the Revolutionary solder to a pension
can only be established by attending Court
and there making their declaration
many of them
must be shut out
from
the benefit of the law making
provision for them. And I know that
Many
have obtained their pensions in
this way and if not agreeable law and
usage why were they granted
-
Respectfully yours
Chas Brummell

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N. Carolina
Franklin County
whose
This day personally appeared
before me one of the Justices of the Peace in and for said County, Shem Cooke and made
oath that he has been acquainted with Harwood
Pope from his boyhood. That he has sustained
an unblemished character that when young
he entered the service of the United States in the
Revolutionary war with England, as a soldier
and that he has always understood during his
service, that he was distinguished for his bravery
and subordination, particularly at the Battle of
the Eutaw Spring, and that he Returned
from the service about the year 1781 Regularly discharged
Sworn to and subscribed
This 30th of May 1835
Test G. Glenn JP
Shem Cooke
State of North Carolina
Franklin County
⎬
I, Smith Patterson clerk of the
Court of pleas and quarter session for the
County of Franklin do hereby certify that Gideon Glenn Esq. whose official attestation appears
to the foregoing affiant is an acting Justice
of the Peace in the County aforesaid, and
that the signature purporting to be his
is Genuine
Give under my hand & seal
of the Court at office the
9 June 1835
J. Patterson Clk.

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Davidson County N.C. May 28, 1844
J. L. Edwards Com. of Pensions

Sir

About 12 months
age I forwarded to the Pension Office the
declaration of Elizabeth Pope widow of Harwood
Pope late of this County.
In October last I
received a letter from you stating that the proof
of Marriage was not sufficient I procured
additional proof which I forwarded to your address
the length of time that has lapsed without hearing
from you in relation to her case induces me to believe
that in the proof in question has not reached you
or that the papers have been misplaced
I do not recollect whether I sent you the certificate
of the Clerk of the County where she was married stating
that there is no record of the Marriage in his office
I have obtained and to that effect which is herein
enclosed
During the last summer I sent you the declaration of Jennet Martin widow of Samuel Martin
late of this County. Her marriage was proved by
[illegible] evidence. In October 1843 I received your communication dated the 6th of that month in which
you say it is incumbent on her to show that there
is no evidence of a higher grade by which she can
prove her marriage
I procured the certificate
of the Clerk of the County Court of Montgomery County
Maryland stating that there was no public record
of Marriages kept in that State before the year 1800
In November last you returned the
declaration of Eva Boggs of this County that
it might be [illegible] before a court which was

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accordingly done & her declaration forwarded to
your address
Will you be so kind as to inform
whether the above claims have been examined
since. I proceed & forwarded additional proof
of Marriage or whether they yet remain to
be investigated. The claimants are very old
& in destitute circumstances & one anxious to
know the result of their applications
what
If any of them have the rejected state on
ground so that the the claimants may
amend them declaration
Very respectfully yours
Chas Brummell

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Davidson County N.C. Oct 12. 1843
Sir

your communication of the 4 [illegible] together with the
declaration of Elizabeth Pope has been received
you say it is returned that it may receive the
sanction of a Court of Record duly organized
you state the proof of Marriage is not satisfactory. There should be record evidence, public or private of the fact, or documentary proof showing the relation of husband & wife prior to January
1st 1794. It is only when satisfied that no better
evidence can be procured that the Deponent
Receive poral evidence the Clerk of the County in
which the marriage took place should furnish
a copy of the Record as the best evidence
The above is a copy of your letter to me at
4th inst.
In the first place you state that the
declaration is returned that it may receive the
sanction of a Court of Record.
Permit me to
enquire whether the Reputation of the Deponent
is required in all cases of application for pension
the sanction of a Court of Record if they do then certainly it has been a departure from them in our case
I refer to the case of Nancy Riggins to whom you
forwarded a certificate of pension a few weeks
since. He declaration was made before a Justice
of the Peace for the reason that she was unable
to attend court. The Justice before whom Mrs. 
Pope made her declaration certifies that she
could not attend Court in consequence of bodily
infirmity. The fact is within my own Knowledge
that the old lady in consequence of a fall was
at that time & is now as helpless as an infant

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Why require of her [what crossed through] more than Mrs. Riggins
in their cases were precisely alike. you require
her to do that which is impossible. She cannot
appear before a court of Record & the Justice of so certifies-
As to the Marriage
The Clerk of
the County Court of Franklin County certifies that the
marriage bond (which is the only record of Marriage Kept in N. Carolina) cannot be found
His certified
together with that of one of the most reputable
citizens of that county that Mr. Pope was
Married between the year 1784 & 1786 has been sent
to the Department.
What more could be done in this case. You say the service is admitted
& the marriage is proved to have taken place before 1794
that by record evidence for the reason to there
is non such in existence
Will you do me the favor to inform
me forthwith what course I shall take in Mrs. Pope's case or rather in all cases where there is
no record evidence of the Marriage
Recollect the Record of Marriages in N.C.
is the marriageb and which the law requested
be filed in County Court Clerks office. The hand
being a small piece of paper
could in the lapse of many years be misplaced or lost
that Mrs. Pope is entitled to a pension
there is no sort of doubt
Let me know what to do if her case
your ob't. Servt
Charles Brummell

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Davidson County N.C. Oct 19. 1843
Sir

I herewith send you the declaration of
Elizabeth Pope which you returned to receive the [illegible] of a court of Record. As Mrs. Pope is in a help
life condition you requisition in that respect cannot be
complied with. She made her declaration before
Justice of the Peace - Justice of the Peace in N Carolina
and Justice of  court of record, if W. Wints opinion
can be relied on
As to the proof of Marriage, she
has given you all the evidence that is attainable by her
she applied through her attorney to the Clerk of the
County Court of Franklin County, where she was married for a copy of the marriage bond given by her
husband. The Clerk certified that the said bond could
not be found in his office which certificate together
with the certificate of one of the most respectable
Citizens of the County as to the time of her Marrige
was sent to the Department. you also have the
certificate of Reuben May, John S. Sullivan, and
Sarah Riggins, surely here is proof enough to
establish the marriage beyoud a shadow of a doubt
I trust upon the evidence before you will grant
the [illegible] a pension
Your Obt Servt,
Chs. Brummell
P. S.
In order to you & myself much trouble perhaps you had better send me some specific directions as to
the cause to be pursued in cases where there is
no [illegible] evidence
C.B.

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Davidson County, N.C. Aug 19, 1943
Sir, Enclosed I send you the declaration of Elizabeth Pope the widow of Harwood Pope a pensioner of the United States. Let me know the result of this investigation of claim as soon as practicable. I forwarded to you a good while ago the declarations of Michael Sink, Daniel Motsinger, soldiers of the Revolution; also the declarations of Nancy Riggins & Jennet Martin. They have been expecting to hear the result of their applications for a considerable time.  They probably have not reached you, if they have please let me hear from you in relation to them.
Your humble servant, Chs Bramwell
Direct your letters to Bramwell's Davidson Co. N.C.