Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 31,595, John Carmickele, Penn.

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(8-1776)
Service
Penn.

Carmickele, John
or 
Carmichal

Number
S31.595

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ILLEGIBLE      (MONTH) 8 1836

ILLEGIBLE   to Georgia from  
4th March 1831 - June 28th. 36

Duplicate certificate found
June 28 1836 and ILLEGIBLE 
Thomas Chandler, Carrollton
Georgia

                                 4867
East Tennessee
John Carmichal
of Cooke in the state of Tenn.
who was a (illegible) in the compy(sic) commander by Col Watson in the Pa.
line for 1 years from 1777
Inscribed on the  Roll of East Tennessee at the rate of 40 dollars -- cents per annum
to commence on the 4th day of March 1831

Certificate of Pension issued the 29th day of Jan  30
and (illegible)      T.D. Arnold House of Reps
arrears to 4th of Sept. 1832                         60
Semiannual allowance ending 4 Mar 33      20
                                                                 = $80   

Revolutionary Claim   Act June 7 1832

Recorded by Nathan Rice  Clerk     

Cook D     Vol.   9   Page 97

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Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832
State of Tennessee Cocke County
On this day of august One thousand Eight hundred and thirty two. personally appeared in open Court before the justices of the same be the court of pleas and Quarter Sessions now sitting, John Carmichal a resident of newport in the County of Cocke and State of Tennessee aged Seventy five years of Cocke and State of Tennessee aged Seventy five years. Who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7th 1832 That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as follows
{Illegible] 
That he was born in the county of Chester and state of Pensylvania on the 7th august 1767 but was shortly removed by his parents into Lancaster County in [Illegible] State where he remained until the 15 day of September 1777 when he entered the service of the United States as a substitute in the room of Michael Graham of [Illegible] county who had been drafted. That he rendeyvouzed on the day aforesaid under Col James Watson & Capt David while hill of the 2d class of pensylvania Malitia, and or Perkiomen joined the main army at Shippach in Berks County from whence he marched to Muddy Camp and from thence to White Marsh where he he was discharged on the 15 day of November 1777 making a term of two months during which Campaign he messed with John Simmon Sergent Rober Byres, John Allison and others. And after

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being to discharge after the term of 15 days he again entered the service of the United States in the room of Abraham Graham of the County of Chester and State of Pennsylvania
And (illegible) at Brandywine Meetinghouse in the early part of December of (illegible) year and joined the main army at Radnor Meetinghouse 14 miles from Philadelphia under Capt. Evans Captain Commandant Capt David Denny Company commandant, Lieutenants John Craig and Francis Gardner. Ensign John Johnson. From Radnor meetinghouse he marched to Graham Park and from there through Chester Philadelphia and Bucks Counties in order to cut off supplies from the British who were then quartered in the city of Philadelphia and after two months service was discharged at (illegible) Hill by the order of Gen L (illegible).
And that afterwards on the 1th February 1779 he entered the service of the United States as a volunteer under Capt Shaffner in the Borough of Lancaster in which county he then resided where he was stationed to guard State stores and prisoners. and was discharged on the 15th April following then under the command of Captain Hubly.

Said applicant further state that on the 15th day of June 1780 he again entered the service of United States as a Volunteer agreeably to an act passed by the Legislature of the state of Pennsylvania and the he rendezvoused at the Borough of Lancaster PA under Capt Hubly and Lieutenant Kelly and marched from there through Philadelphia Trenton Princeton Morristown and encamped at TOTOWA FALLS, at which place he was drafted into the regular army in the first Pennsylvania Brigade commanded by General Anthony Wayne and seventh regiment then commanded by Major (illegible) who was shortly

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afterwards transfered to Gen Lafayette afer which Col Harmer took command of [illegible] regiment, and that he was placed in the 7th company commanded by Captain John Bush. A few days after which [illegible] they had a skirmish with the British at a Black house five miles above New York in which Lieutenant Deheart was wounded and shortly after died; from [illegible] fall marched to the [illegible] neighborhood and from there to Orange Towne and from Hacer straw plains then to the white plains in the state of New York [illegible] they returned to orange town and from there marched to Hacer straw plains on the morning after Arnolds patrol was discovered, and from there back to orange town where he remained until after the execution of Andre and from there to Mont Kemmel near Morristown where he was discharged on the 28 day of december 1780 by John Alexander Captain commandant in the absence of Col Harmer who was then detained in philadelphia on account of a Duel. Ammounting in the whole to a term equal to 12 months and 22 days - He states that for the last mentioned term of service he received a discharge in writing together with the certificate of the paymaster that he had received no compensation for [illegible] services which he forwarded to the Camp [illegible] generals office where it was retained and [illegible] applicant furnished with a funded certificate.
He states that he knows of no person living whose testimony he can procure who has personal knowledge of his service
He herby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency [illegible] state. He states that his last [illegible] discharge he [illegible] [illegible] co p.t. where he remained 10 years and from there into [illegible] county, V.A.  where he remained 15 years

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and from there to Newport in Cocke County Tennessee where he now living - and where he has lived during the last 17 years. He states that there is no clergyman in his neighborhood [scribble] who [scribble] is sufficiently acquainted with him to testify to his character and reputation but that Alexander Milliken and John J. Howell live in the same village and can testify on the law required.
John Carmickele
Sworn to and [illegible]
in open court 31st August 1832
G.M. Porter Clerk
The Alexander Milliken a citizen of Newport in the county of Cocke and state of Tennessee and John J Howell residing in the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Carmickele who has sworn to and [illegible] the [illegible] [illegible] that we liken him be of the age he represents and that he is respected and [illegible] in the neighborhood where he resides to [illegible] [illegible] a [illegible] [illegible] and that we concur in that opinion.
A Milliken
John J Howell
Sworn and [illegible]
in open court 31st august 1832
G.M Porter Clerk
And the said court do herby declare their oppinion after the investigating the matter and after putting the [illegible] [illegible] by the war department There the [illegible] applicant was a [illegible] soldier and secure as he states. and the court herby certifies that it appears to them that Alexander Milliken and John J. Howell who have [illegible] the preceding certificate are residents of Newport in [illegible] county and that they are credible persons and their statements entitled to audit.
John Gillet
[illegible]
James Holland
I George M Porter Clerk of court of pleas and quarter sessions doe hereby certify that the above contains the original presiding of the court in the matter of the [illegible] [illegible] of John Carmickele for a pension. In listing about [illegible] [illegible] set my hand and pen. A [illegible] made [illegible] and of the court by act of assembly
At office this 31st day of august 1832
G.M Porter [scribble]

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Application for a Transfer
County of Carroll
State of Georgia
SS
On this Twenty first day of May 1836
before me the subscriber a Justice of the peace
for the said County of Carroll personally
appeared John Carmicheal who on his oath
declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the company commanded by Captain
David Whitehill in the regiment commanded
by Colonel Watson also to the company commanded by Captains David Daucy, Hubley & Shapen
also in the company commanded by Capt John
Bush in the regiment commanded by Colonel
Hamier, in the service of the United States.
that his name was placed on the pension roll
of the State of Tennessee From whence he has
lately removed; that he now resides in the
State of Georgia where he intends to remain
and wishes his pension to be there payable
in future. The following are his reasons
for removing from Tennessee to Georgia
His children with whom he wished to
reside settled in Georgia and as he a
had no family he removed to live with them
Sworn & subscribed to
before me the day and
year above written
Randsom Thompson
John Carmichele
W

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County of Carroll
State of Georgia
On this twenty first day of May 1836
before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace for said county of Carroll appeared Willam F Smith who on his oath states that John Carmichael the person who has taken the above oath is the person described in the affidavit.  Sworn and subscribed to before me the day and year aforesaid.
Randsom Thompson
J.P.

I Randsom Thompson the magistrate before whome the foregoing affidavit was taken certify that William F. Smith was sworn to and subscribed the foregoing affidavit is a pers on veracity and that his statement is [illegible] to credit given under my hand this first day of May 1836
Randsom Thompson
J.P.

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Mrs. Burton W. Wands
11211 Massachusetts Avenue
Los Angeles, California.
Dear Madam:
April 29, 1938.
BAILL
John Carmichele
S. 31959
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Carmichael, a pensioner of Tennessee,
in 1832, also, information in regard to Benjamin Johnson Radford who 
served from Virginia and moved to Christian County, Kentucky, about 1817.

There is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of the Benjamin Radford described
by you, nor of any Johnson Radford, under any spelling of that surname.
The record of John Carmickele (Carmichal) is given herein as found in
his claim for pension, S. 31959, based upon his service in the Revolution
John Carmickele was born August 7, 1757, in Chester County, Pennsylvania, and was taken by his parents shortly afterwards to Lancaster
County, Pennsylvania, where he resided during the Revolutionary War. The names of his parents are not shown,
He enlisted September 15, 1777, and served two months as a private in Captain David Whitehill's company, Colonel James Watson's
Pennsylvania regiment; after about fifteen days, he enlisted and served
two months as a private in Captain Evans' company, engaged in the vicinity of Philadelphia. He enlisted February 15, 1779, and served two months as a private in Captain Schaffner's and Hubley's Pennsylvania
companies. He enlisted June 15, 1780, served as a private in Captains John Rubley's, George Bush's and John Alexander's companies, Colonel Harmar's Pennsylvania regiment and was discharged December 23, 1780, near
Morristown; during this service, he was in a skirmish at a block house a few miles above New York,
The soldier moved from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to Cumber-

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land County, Pennsylvania, where he remained ten years, then moved to Berkeley County, Virginia, and remained five  years, moved to Mongomery County, Virginia, and resided fifteen years, after which he moved to Newport, Cooke County Tennessee.
John Carmickele was allowed pension on his application executed August 31, 1832, at which time he resided in Newport, Tennessee; he had resided there for seventeen years. His name was borne on the pension roll as John Carmichal.
In May 1836, the soldier was a resident of Carroll County Georgia. He stated that he had moved from Tennessee to Georgia to live with his children, but he did not state the names of said children. The name of his wife, and date and place of their marriage are not shown. He received his mail at Tallapoosa, Carroll County, Georgia and was addressed as John Carmicahel, Senior.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid, and possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and furnish the following:
John Carmichal
Certificate $4867
Issued January 29, 1833
Rate $40 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Georgia Agency (Transferred from Tennessee Agency June 28, 1836)
Very truly yours,
 A.D. Hiller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
   2.

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[Left Side]
31595
Reg Invalid.
File No. 31,595
John Carmichal
Pvt Rev War

Act: June 7, 32
Index: - Vol 2, Page 64
[Arrangement of 1870.]

[Right side handwritten]
1915-Nov. 11 When G.W. Rauch advised this is not the man whose record is desired by A.C. Smith. A.W
1932-Jan. 23 Hist to Aurelia B. Catis ILL
1938-Feb 24 Hist to Mrs. Clayton B. Deming ILL
1939. Jan. 16 Mrs. Clayton B Deming was furn inf requested in letter sent her Feb 24, 1938
MCS

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John Carmichal, Pvt, East Tennason 7th June '32. $40 Per Ann- Please inform to waht time he was last paid?
3rd [illegible] Pension Office
June 8th 1836
R.B

The name of John Carmichal does not appear on the roll of East Tenneson under the Act of 7th June 1832
3rd Aud. Office
June 8, 1836
A. He.

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John Carmichael
for new certificate for Transfer

Has rec(ieved) nothing - due from 4 March 1831 - 5 years-


Respectfully referred to the Com. of Pensions

                                                July 27, 36

                                                  R.B.

Let the certificate be (??) & let transfer be made.

                                        J.L.E.

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Washington City
District of Columbia  to wit

I Thomas D Arnold one of the members of Congress from the State of Tennessee do Certify that George M Porter is Clerk of the Court of Pleas and quarter Sessions For the County of Cocke In the State aforesaid That I have inspected his deposition to the foregoing certificate and believe it to be genuine and that he has no public seal of office.

Given under my hand this 28th Jan 1833
Tho. D. Arnold
$40 per am
E. Tonnessa/Tennessee Prth

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Agents office Knoxville
June 18th 1836

Sir

Your letter under date of the 8 Jny. is to hand requesting me to inform you to what time John Carmichal[sp] a pensioner under the act 7 June 1832 was paid up to— In answer I can inform you that I have not paid mr  Carmichal [sp] anything on his pittens[sp] due him from the United States. an examination of his account on my Books at this expense I find that I made up his account from the 4 day of March 1831 up to the 4th of March 1833. At that per annum Say I am extended $80 to his credit; but no charge made against him in Consequence of no payments made to him at all— and agreeable to your instructions I have cleared Mr. Carmichal[sp] on my Books from the 4 day of March 1831. Up to this date by your order as a Transfer from this agency to that of Georgia- Mr Carmichal is a worthy old man and I hope that he will be able now to receive from your hands his pittens[sp] that has been allowed him, I have been acquainted with Mr. Carmichal near 40 years— and resently[sp] I have Corresponded with him on the Subject of his pension

I am Respectfully you obt Sert 
A Th Pen
Agent

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18?

Mr. John Carmichael
A revolutionary pensioner
Tallapoosa Post Office
Carroll County

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? Agency
February 3thd, 1836

My old friend
Dear Sir

Your letter under date of the 29 Dec. is to hand and in Consequence of my absence from home for the last four months and only returning and arrived at Home on yesterday and this moment put my hand on your letter is the Reason Whigh[sp] I have not answerd[sp] your enquiries respecting your pension has in

In answer I can inform you with pleasure to my own feelings in your behalf that on examination[sp] of my pension Books I find that your name Stands on them for a pension under the act of the 7June 1832. For than per year Commencing the 4 march 1831 up to Tomorrow the 4 March 1836.  ? Five years All Amounting to $200- -Which Stands to your credit but ? ? To your failure to draw Semiannuall[sp] your well have to apply to the Secretary of war to re enstate you on the Roll of this Agency before I will be able to pay you any part of your pension ? You and when you obtain that authereby and will Come with your original certificate of pension I can then pay you according to Instructtions[sp] of the War Department

I am your friend
A. Thomas
Agent

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John Carmichael

Transcribed and
Sub. Certificate

Ansd. Thomas Chandler
Apl. 21    3 ?

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Carrolltown, GA
9th April 1836

To the Honorable Secretary of War

Dear Sir:
Enclosed I send the affidavit of John Carmikele, and a letter from the pension agent at Knoxville 
Tn showing that he is unable without the interference of the War department to draw the pension which has been allowed him.  As his original pension certificate is lost to him, and even if he had it, the agent requires a ?renewal before he would pay the amount.  He would like to have it payable at Savannah in this state.  If anything more is necessary to be done he wishes instructions how to proceed.  He now lives in this county and wishes an answer to me at this place or to himself at Talepoosy[sp] P.O in this county.
Thos. Chandler

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State of Georgia
Carroll county } Ss

On the ninth day of April 1836 before me an acting Justice of the peace in and for Said county personally came John Carmicheal[sp] who being duely[sp] Sworn according to law makes the following Statement on oath in order to be reinstated on the pension roll—
That he made a declaration and procured the affadavit[sp] of John J. Howel & Alexander Miligin before the court of Quarter Sessions in the county of Cock[sp] in the State of Tenessee[sp] Sometime in the Summer or fall of 1832 and that his papers were sent on to the war department by J A Marshell[sp] his attorney, that before any return was recovered he moved to this state & county that he was afterwards informed by letter of his attorney that the attorney had received a certificate allowing him forty dollars per anum[sp] that before he had an oppertunity[sp] to go and attend to drawing his money he received information that the said attorney (Marshell) had left Tenessee[sp] & either taken off his (deponents)certificate or mislaid it so that deponent is and has been unable to procure it and that he never can hear what has become of Said Marshell and Knows not where he has gone—That he is informed by Robt King the pension agent at Knoxville that the amt 
Stands on his books to books to his credit as will appear by the letter of said agent — he therefore prays that he

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prays that his name may be reinstated on the pension roll
John Carmi[chael]

Sworn to and Subscribed
Before me an acting justice
Of the peace For said county}
Test}
Grisham Durham, JP

Georgia
Carroll county }

I William L Parr
Clerk of the Superior Court in & for Said county do hereby certify that Grisham Durham is a justice of the peace as above and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine
Given under my hand and seal
of office at Carrollton this 9th day
of April 1836.

Wm L Parr, Clk

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Application for a new Certificate

County of Carroll
State of Georgia SS

On this twenty first day of May 1836 before me the Subscriber a Justice of the peace for said county of Carroll personally appeared John Carmichael[sp] who on his oath declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the company Commanded by Captain David Whitehall in the regiment commanded by Colonel Watson also to the companies of Captains Henry, Hubley & Shefney also to the company of John Bush in the regiment commanded by Colonel Harmer in the service of the United States; that his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of Tenessee[sp] that he received a certificate of that fact under the Signature and Seal of the Secratary[sp] of War Which certificate on or about the first day of December 1834 was in the hands of Joseph A. Marshell[sp] his attorney who about the same time left the country and cannot since be heard of by him and either carried away the certificate or lift[sp] it where he (deponant)[sp] cannot find it whereby he has totally lost the Same

John Carmickele

Sworn and subscribed to before
Me the day and year aforesaid}
Random Thompson 
JP

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State of Georgia
Carroll County } SS

Before me an acting Justice of the peace for Said county personally appeard[sp] William
F Smith who on his oath declares that he well knows John Carmichael the person who Swore to & Subscribed the foregoing affidavit to be the Same person described in the above affidavit 

Wm. F. Smith

Sworn and Subscribed to 
before me this twenty first
Day of May 1836}
Randsom Thompson}
J.P.

State of Georgia
County of Carroll} SS

I Ransom[sp] Thompson the Magistrate before whom the foregoing affidavits were made do certify that William F Smith who Swore to and Subscribed the foregoing affidavit is a person of Veracity and that his statement is entitled to credit Given under my hand this 21st day of May 1836
Randsom Thompson
J.P.

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John Carmichael 

E. Tennessee
for
 ?service ?Cer.

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I William L Parr Clerk of the Superior court for Said County of Carroll, certify that Randsom Thompson the person before whom the foregoing affidavits were made & who administered the same & who Subscribed the foregoing cirtificate[sp], is a Justice of the peace and that the Signatures purporting to be his Is Genuine

In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my Seal of office and Subscribed my name this twenty third day of May 1836

Wm L Parr, Cl/E

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John Carmichael

E. Ten.
to
Georgia

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I, William S. Parr, clerk of the inferior court for said county Carroll certify that Randsom Thompson, the person before whom the foregoing affidavits were taken, and who signed the foregoing certificate is a Justice of the Peace for said county and that the signatures reporting to be his are genuine.

In testimony whereof, I have here unto affix my seal of the office and subscribe my name this twenty-third day of May,1836

Signature: William Parr

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Jno Carmichael
Ga
For Fr. I Dihart.
Pension
No. Missd laid
4867
In Tenn.

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Carrollton Ga. May 24th 1836

Sir

You will receive herewith the application of John Carmicheal[sp] for a new certificate and a transfer made out in conformity with The printed instructions lately received from your office

Yours with Respect &c

Thos. Chandler

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C 412

Carrollton Ga
April 11} Free
War Department
Washington City
 21 April 1836
Dist of Columbia
Pension Office
NS. Burdine

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Mrs. Burton Wands 
11211 Massachusetts Ave 
Los Angeles, California 

THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS 

Mr. A.D. Hiller 
Veterans Administration 
Rev. War Records division 
Washington
D.C.

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Dear Sir:
Please send me the pension record of John
Carmichael who served in the Pennsylvania line,
Revolutionary War and moved after the Rev. to
Cocke Co. Tennessee. He drew pension in 1832
in that county. 
Also of his widow if she survived him.
Any data you have will be most welcome.
That of another ancestor, Benjamin Johnson
Radford who served in Va, and removed to Christian Co., Ky. about 1817 would also be appreciated.
Your help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Beatrice Wands 
Beatrice Wands 
(Mrs. Burton W.)
April 12, 1938
Drawn by ADX- her not as M Benj Radford

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Seaford, Delaware
January 7, 1935

Mr. A. D. Hiller
Veterans Administration
Washington, D.C.
Dear Mr. Hiller:
May I have a statement from Senate
Document 514, Vol. III of Tennessee Pensions
page 54, that John Carmichael of Penn. Line,
resident of Cocke County at the age of 77 years,
Nov. 29, 1832, received a pension until his
death 1835.
I need a statment of John Carmichael's
military record for admittance to the D. A. R.
I shall appreciate any information
you can give me.

I am,
Most sincerely yours,
Aurelia B. Cate
Aurelia B. Cate

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Mrs. Clayton B. Deming
1502 Laurel Avenue
Knoxville, Tennessee
Feb. 4, 1938

Veterans Administration
Washington D.C.

Gentlemen:
 Will you please send me a copy of the pension and land warrant records of John Carmichael.  He served in the Rev. War from Allegheny County, Pen., but the pension was granted to him while living in Cooke Co. Tenn. 

Send only one - MMHF

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Also copy of Pension and Land Warrant Records of Joseph Wilson served in Rev. War from Washington District.
(??) Term.  Col. John Sevier Reg.
                  Capt Nimrod Hoskins Co.

Applied for Pension while living at Carter Co. Tenn. formerly in Elizabethton.

                  Very truly yours

            Carrie Low Deming

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1502 Laurel Ave 
Knoxville, Tenn
 Dec 5, 1938.
Commissioner of Pensions 
Washington, D.C. 
Dear Sir, 
Will you please send me date of last payment of pension, name of person to whom paid and date of death of John Carmichael, who served in Penn Line, Alleghany Co. Penn and later lived in Tenn. and drew pension while living in Cocke Co. Tenn. 

Very truly yours
Mrs. Clayton Deming
Also send of James Miller who served in Capt Brooks Co 1777 or 78 from Sullivan Co Tenn and drew pension in Nashville Tenn Agency 
C Deming

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January 16, 1939
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Mrs. Clayton Deming
1502 Laurel Avenue
Knoxville, Tennessee
BA-J/McS
John Carmickele, S.31595
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter of December 5, 1938, requesting the date of last payment of pension, name of person to whom paid and
date of death of John Carmichael, a Revolutionary War soldier who served
in the Pennsylvania Line, Alleghany County, and later lived in Tennessee and drew pension while living in Cocke County, Tennessee; you also request the record of James Miller who served in Captain Brooks' Company in 1777 or
1778, was from Sullivan County, Tennessee, and drew pension in Nashville, Tennessee Agency.
On February 24, 1938, you were furnished a full abstract including the information necessary in order to obtain from the General Accounting
Office, the date of last payment of pension, etc., of John Carmickele (Carmichal) S.31959, the only soldier of that name (searched under all spellings) who served from Pennsylvania and was pensioned while living in Cocke County, Tennessee, that is found in the Revolutionary War records of this office.
The Revolutionary War records of this office fail to afford any information relative to a James Miller of Sullivan or Davidson Counties,
Tennessee.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator

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February 24, 1938.
Mrs. Clayton B. Deming
1502 Laurel Avenue
Knoxville, Tennessee.

BA-J/ILL
John Carmickele
S. 31595

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of John Carmichael, who served from Pennsylvania and received pension while a resident of Cocke County, Tennessee, and Joseph Wilson, who served from North Carolina and applied for pension while a resident of Carter County, Tennessee.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited trained clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is impossible to comply with each request regarding soldiers of that war. The record of John Carmickele, whose name is shown also as Carmickle, Carmichael and Carmichal, is given herein as found in the papers on file in his claim for pension, S. 31595, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.
John Carmickele was born August 7, 1757, in Chester County, Pennsylvania, and was taken shortly afterwards by his parents to
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where he resided during the Revolutionary War. The names of his parents are not shown.
He enlisted September 15, 1777, and served two months as a private in Captain David Whitehill's company, Colonel James Watson's
Pennsylvania regiment; after about fifteen days, he enlisted and served two months as a private in Captain Evans' company, engaged in the vicinity of Philadelphia. He enlisted February 15, 1779 and served two months as a private in Captains Schaffner's and Hubley's Pennsylvania companies. He enlisted June 15, 1780, served as a private in Captains John Hubley's, George Bush's and John Alexander's companies, Colonel Harmar's Pennsylvania regiment and was discharged December 23,
1780, near Morristown; during this service, he was in a skirmish at a block house a few miles above New York.

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John Carmickele moved from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to Cumberland in that state where he remained ten years, from there moved to Berkeley County, Virginia, and remained five years, thence to Montgomery County, Virginia, where he resided fifteen years, after which he moved to Newport, Cocke County, Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 31, 1832, at which time he resided in Newport, Tennessee; he had resided there for seventeen years. His name was borne on the pension roll as John Carmichal.
In May 1836, the soldier was a resident of Carroll County, Georgia; he stated that he had moved from Tennessee to Georgia to live with
his children, but he did not state the names of said children. The name of his wife, and the date and place of their marriage are not shown. He received mail at Tallapoosa, Carroll County, Georgia, and was addressed as John Carmichael, Senior.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid and, possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and furnish the following:
John Carmichal
Certificate #4867
Issued January 29, 1833
Rate $40 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Georgia Agency (transferred from Tennessee Agency June 28, 1836.)
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.
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January 23, 1935.
Aurelia B. Cate
Seaford, Delaware.
BA-J/ILL
John Carmickele
S. 31595
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Carmichael of Pennsylvania Line, who received a pension November 29, 1832, while a resident of Cocke County, Tennessee, and who died in 1835.
The record of John Carmickele, whose name is shown also as Carmickle, Carmichael, and Carmichal, is given herein as found in the
papers on file in his claim for pension, based upon service in the Revolutionary War.
John Carmickele was born August 7, 1757, in Chester County, Pennsylvania, and was taken shortly afterwards by his parents to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where he resided during the Revolutionary War. The names of his parents are not shown.
He enlisted September 15, 1777, and served two months as private in Captain David Whitehill's company, Colonel James Watson's
Pennsylvania regiment; shortly after, he enlisted and served two months as private in Captain Evans' Pennsylvania company, engaged in the vicinity of Philadelphia. He enlisted February 15, 1779 and served two months as private under Captains Schaffner and Hubly. He enlisted June 15, 1780, served as private in Captain Hubly's company, and in
Captains John Bush's and John Alexander's companies, Colonel Harmar's Pennsylvania regiment and was discharged at Morristown, December 23, 1780.
The soldier moved from Lancaster County to Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, where he remained ten years, thence to Berkeley County,

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Virginia, and remained five years, then moved to Montgomery County, Virginia, where he remained fifteen years, thence to Newport, Cocke County, Tennessee.
John Carmickele was allowed pension on his application executed August 31, 1832, at which time he resided in Newport, Tennessee; he
had resided there seventeen years. His name was borne on the pension roll as Carmichal.
In May 1836, the soldier was a resident of Carroll County, Georgia; he stated that he had moved from Tennessee to Georgia to live with his children, but he did not give the names of said children. The name of his wife, and date and place of his marriage are not shown. He received mail at Tallapoosa, Carroll County, Georgia, and was addressed as John Carmichael, Senior.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid, and, possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and furnish that office the following:
John Carmichal
Certificate 4867
Issued January 29, 1833
Rate $40 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831.
Act of June 7, 1832.
Tennessee Agency.
(Transferred to Georgia, June 28, 1836).
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

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Rev. War Section,
November 11, 1915.

Hon. George W. Rauch,
House of Representatives,

My dear Mr. Rauch:
In response to your letter of the tenth instant and the enclosed letter of Mrs. Alice
Carmichael Smith of Wabash, Indiana, who states that the subject of her inquiry John Carmichael, enlisted January 22, 1776, in Captain Thomas L. Moore's company, 2d Pennsylvania Battalion, Arthur St. Clair Colonel that his name was last on the company roll March 31, 1777, and that he died in Pennsylvania in 1808, I have the honor to advise you, that as neither of the Revolutionary
War pensioners of that name referred to in the
attached Bureau letter of November 3, 1915, rendered the above service, and as both of them were alive after that date, one in Ohio in 1838, the other in Georgia in 1836, it would not appear that either of them was the person whose record she desired and therefore this Bureau is unable to aid her further,
Very truly yours,
G M Saltzgaber
Commissioner.

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-John Carmichael, Pa
S26989