Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 6481, John Allen, N. C.

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SERVICE
N.C.

Allen, John

NUMBER
S. 6481

carded

CONTENTS

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32,978

North Carolina

John Allen
of [illegible] in the State of N.V.
who was a private in the Comp'y command
by Captain ~ of the Reg't command
by Cal in the [illegible]
for 14 months

N.C. Line
Records corrected.

Inscribed on the Roll Fayetteville
at the rate of 46 Dollars 66 Cents per
annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 183[illegible]

Certificate of Pension issued the 21 day of
Jany 1852 and [illegible]
S. Godwin

Arrears to the 4th of Present
Semi-anl. allowance ending

Revolutionary Claim
Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by H.R. Weightman
Book [illegible] Vol. 6 1/2 Page 44

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State of North Carolina
County of Yancey

One this 13th day of October one thousand eight hundred and fifty one personally appeared before the Court of Pleases and Quarter sessions in and for said county and state John Allen aged ninety five -- years a resident of said county of Yancey and state of North Carolina, who [illegible] first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath made the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Provision made by the act of Congress, approved the 4th day of June 1832: (That he is an uneducated man, and never had or kept any record or memorandum of his services, and that he is now very old, and memory very [illegible], and for that reason cannot state dates and occurrences in positive terms, and that his reason for not making application for a Pension before this, was that he had lost his discharges many years ago, and thought he could not get one nearby he could produce it which was a thing irreplaceable, as he took but little care of it, believing it to be of no use to him whatever at the time, and that he did not know of a man living who served with him, by whom he could prove his services.) That he serve his first term in The Revolutionary war in the Militia services of North Carolina under one Captain

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Hutson who he thinks was from Guilford County
N Carolina, but cannot remember the name of the Colonel who commanded the Regiment, but is of opinion that a great portion of this Tower Capt Hutson was not under the immediate command of any one being principally engaged in short excursions often the [illegible], and that he [illegible] interned for the term of four months, and that as well as he concluded he entered said service in the month of January or February 1778. and that he was at this date a citizen of Wake County and the State of N. Carolina. Deponent further states that he was at  home but a short time until he enlisted in the Regular Service of N. Ca which was about the last of May or first of June 1778, and that believes that he [illegible] for during the war, and was under the following officers, [illegible] Captains Smith, Tennessee and Pope, and Colonels Butler and Williamson and he thinks that [illegible] under Col Sumpter, but cannot state how long, and that he was with Gen Gates and Gen Green, for some time, but as they were being changed about a great deal he can state, the length of time or the services performed, that he was in service of battles or "fights", but the greatest [underlined] battle he was in was the one fought at Guilford Court House in Guildford County, N. Carolina, and that shortly after this he was taken sick and often lying for service

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time he was discharged from the service, and continuing sick for a long time, he on that account was never again in the service, Declarant [illegible] that he cannot tell the date when he left the service for the reasons already given, but believes that he service in all something like three years and a half or four years, four months as a militiaman, and the [illegible] in the regular service. He states is there was an difference between a state troop and a Continental he did not know it, and for that reason cannot tell precisely which of the two he belonged to, but was already of the impression that he was in the state service of N. Carolina. Sworn to and subscribed in open court on the day and year above written.

John Allen
[his mark]

We Jon Wheeler, a clergyman residing in the County of Yandy and the State of N. Carolina and W.J. Lewis, residing in the same, do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Allen who has sworn to and subscribed the foregoing declaration, that we believe him to be ninety five years age, and that his is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, that, that opinion is genuine and uncontradicted, and we concur in that opinion. Sworn to and subscribed in open court day and year last written (see 4th page)

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John Wheeler Clergyman
W.J. Lewis

And the said Court hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogations presented by the war Department, that the abovementioned applicant was a Revolutionary soldier, and that he served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that John Wheeler - who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman residing in Yancey County and that W.J. Lewis - is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit.

Chairman
J. Hensley

I, E.H. Honeycutt clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Services for said county do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceeding of the said court in the matter of the application of John Allen for a Pension and that John Hensley [illegible] is the Chairman of said court was duly commissioned and sworn according to law. In testimony of which I have set my hand and affixed the seal of my office at Burnsville on this 8th day of October AC 1857

E.H. Honeycutt Clerk

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January 3, 1936.

mailed
[illegible]
review 
F

Mrs. Mable L. Domm
769 North Garey Avenue
Pomona, California

BA-J/ady
John Allen
S.6481

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter relative to John Allen, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.

The data contained herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S.6481, based upon the military service of John Allen in that war.

The date and place of birth and the names of the parents of John Allen are not stated.

While a resident of Wake County, North Carolina, John Allen enlisted in January or February 1778, and served four months as private in Captain Hutson's North Carolina Company. He enlisted June 1, 1778, served more than three years as private in Captain Smith's, Turner's and Sumpter's North Carolina Regiments and was in the battle of Guilford.

He was allowed pension on his application executed October 13, 1851, at which time he was ninety-five years old and a resident of Yancey County, North Carolina.

In 1853 one Joseph P. Allen witnesses the signature, by mark, of the soldier John Allen, in Yancey County, North Carolina, his age or relationship not stated. There are no further family data.

Very truly yours

A.D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Date of death not on app.

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[illegible]
Mrs. W.L. Peel
Atlanta, Ga

1936 Jan. 2 Hist. to Mrs. Mable L. Domm [illegible]

6481
INVALID

File No. 6481
John Allen
[illegible] Rev. War
Act: June 7th 1832
Index:--Vol. A, Page 6
[Arrangement of 1870.]

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38.202

John Allen
N.C.
Act 7 June 1832
Let S. Godwin Dec. 1 1851
"     "      "         Jan 21, 5-2

S. Godwin
Present

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Burnsville NC
Jan 8th

Jno B. Woodfin

Jno Allen.
[illegible]
N.C. '32
Get papers

Samuel Godwin Esq.
Washington D.C.

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Let J.B. Sawyer July 7, '5-2
S.B. Wilson
Col. 11/53

Let Pension Agent
Col. 11/53

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John Allen
N.C.

Act 7 June 1832
[illegible] 14 mo [illegible] $46.66
Per an.

Cert.
S. Godwin
Present

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Asheville N.C.
27th June 1852

Dear Sir

There is considerable suspicion resting on a Pension Agent by the name of John B. Woodfin of Yancey County N.C. who has had considerable sums of money [underlined] for Pensions [underlined] & aid [underlined] not pay over as he should do and he has certainly got many on the Invalid List [underlined] that is men of Health [underlined] or I have been misinformed.

Jan applied [illegible] application to the Pension Office for Information [underlined]

Has there been a Pension Certificate issued to John Allen of Yancey County N.C. If so when and if issued and for what amount.

Your compliance will much oblige.

Your most off. and Humble servant
J.B. Sawyer

J.E. Heath Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions

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State of North Carolina

Comptroller's Office
October 18th, 1851

I, William J. Clarke, Comptroller of Public Accounting in and for the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that it appears of record in my office, among the payments made by said State to sundry persons for Military services in the Revolutionary War, as follows, to wit:
John Allen
Vol. 3, Journal of Commissioners of Army Accounts final statements, account 595 Statement C.
John Allen private $15.38 pay from 1st June 1778 to 1st August 1779--

Also,
Book No. 17 page 52 £ 27 specie
"            "            "  57 £ 9--   "
"            "             " 78 £ 9--    "
       No. 23         "  41 £ 12&10   "

In testimony where of I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed my seal of Office
Wm. J. Clarke Compt.

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Know all men by these present that I John Allen of the County of Yancey and State of North Carolina have made and by these presents do make constitute and appoint Samuel L. Wilson of Yancey County, North Carolina Attorney at law and Agent for Claimants my attorney both in law and in fact for me and in my behalf and in my name or in his own name or otherwise at his discretion to ask apply for obtain received and receive from the Secretary of war the Commissioner of pensions the pay Master General and from any office or department of the United States Government or any officer or person connected there with all [illegible] of money arrearages of pay other pay bounty lands pension claims allowances or property of any kind that may be due or become due for me for or on account of my military or other services or for supplies furnished by me to for or on account of any officer agent or other person in the employ or service of the United States for which I have now or may hereafter have any claim under or by virtue of any enactment of the Congress of the United States or in any way whatever and I hereby authorize my said Attorney to take all lawful means for the recovery of the aforesaid or any part there of to attend to the final adjustment of all business now pending before either of the offices or officers above mentioned in which I am interested to give all necessary discharges to make compromises if he deem it expedient and to do all other acts in the premises that I myself could do were I personally present here by revoking all like powers heretofore executed by me and also here by granting to my said attorney Samuel L. Wilson all my power and authority in the premises firmly

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and irrevocably and ratifying whatsoever he or his deputies shall do lawfully by virtue hereof
witness my hand and seal this Sixteenth day of July A.D. 1853

John Allen
his mark
Seal

Signed sealed and executed in the presents of B.B. Whittington
Joseph P. Allen
State of North Carolina
County of Yancey

On this Sixteenth day of July A.D. 1853 personally appeared before me the above named John Allen to me known and acknowledged the foregoing power of Attorney to be his act and deed for the purposes there in mentioned in which I am not interested
J.B. Ray Justice

I hereby certify that John Allen who executed the foregoing power of Attorney has taken an oath that he is directly interested as claimant this 16th July 1853
J.B. Ray Justice

State of North Carolina
County of Yancey

I hereby certify that J.B. Ray Esquire before whom the foregoing power of Attorney has been acknowledged and who has there unto subscribed his name was at the time of such acknowledgement a Justice of a Court of Record in and for said county and State duly commissioned and sworn and authorized by law to take the same in testimony where of I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of Yancey County Court (a court of record) this 27 day of July A.D. 1853
J. W. Garland Clerk

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Sept 23rd 1853
[illegible] claims
of John Allen

Saml L. Wilson
Bald Creek
Yancey Co.
N.C.

To the Commissioner of Pensions
Department of the Interior
Washington City
D.C.

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Bald Creek No Ca Sept 6th 1853

To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Greeting
Dear in the claim of John Allen to a pension is before you his Declaration is on file he has been allowed forty six dollars and sixty six cents per annum [illegible] claim as agent for him the further sum of thirty three dollars and thirty four cents per annum that being the amount he claims to be yet [illegible] him he claims to have served in the war of the revolution three years and a half or over and John B. Woodfin his former agent says the comptroller certifies that John Allen served in the war of the revolution until he received $115.38 cts and £ 57-- specie which would make over 39 month, I therefore ask you to reconsider his claim, his former agent tells him the commissioner of pensions has promised to allow the balance when a certain explanation is made by the comptroller what that explanation is he can not exactly recollect but he thinks it is whether the (dollars and cents and £) named in his certificate was any part of it for clothing or [illegible[ or money or not if he is mistaken in this you will please correct the error by enclosing me a line to Bald Creek Yancey County where you will please Direct all communications to me let this case stand open till you receive the explanation if on reconsideration you are not satisfied to allow a full pension without it I have [illegible] to the comptroller to give as satisfactory an explanation as the books be for him will enable him to do and perhaps you may get it shortly when it is necessary for the certificate of pension for the part all reddy allow to be sent to you please let me know

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in order to identify John Allen and give you a clue to the case I here copy his certificate Department of the Interior Revolution any claim I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June 1832 John Allen who was a private in the Revolution is entitled to receive Forty six dollars and sixty six cents per annum during his natural life commencing on the 4th of March 1831 and payable semi annually on the 4th of March and the 4th of September in every year Given at the Department of the Interior this twenty first day of January one thousand eight hundred and fifty two 
Alex H.H. Stuart
Secretary of the Interior

Examined and countersigned
J. E. Heath
Commissioner of Pensions

Numbered 32,978

Payment to be made at Fayetteville by James Huske & Agent for paying pensions in the agency of North Carolina
Recorded in the Pension Office in Book & Vol 6 1/2 Page 44 by H. R. Weightman Clerk

I design presenting this claim without an agent at Washington if it is practical I wish you to keep me informed on the points necessary to a fair and full examination of the claim.

Very Respectfully
Saml L. Wilson
Agent for John Allen

To the Commission of Pensions

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38202

Jno Allen, NC
Claim, Act of June 1832

S Godwin
Present

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Burnsville Yancey Co NC
October 20th 1837

Sir
I have enclosed in this, the Declaration of John Allen under the act 7th day of June [underlined] 1832. You will [underlined] at once perceive that I have sent [underlined] no [underlined] evidence to prove this [underlined] declaration [underlined] but I [underlined] have the comptroller's letter stating tthat John Allen received for services in [underlined] the [underlined] Continental [illegible] $113-38, and a certificate [underlined] will be prepared in a short [underlined] time [underlined] which I [underlined] will send [underlined] you. I thought it best to file the claim [underlined] first, wou will see from it that I am doing the best I can in preparing the claims. The Government will also see that the [illegible] him was not copied from the certificate.

Your most able servant,
Jno B. Woodfin

S. Godwin Esq

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Brief in the case of John Allen
County and State of N. C.
act 7 June 1832.

Claim, ("original," or "for increase." [struck out])

Proof exhibited, (if original.)

Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance.
Evidence of service; Record

(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?

Name and residence of Agent
S. Godwin
Present

Kirby
Examining Clerk.

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Copy of Bureau letter
Pension Office Dec. 1, 1857

S. Godwin Esq.
Present.

Sir:

The claim of John Allen of North Carolina under act of June 7, 1832, as been examined, but nothing is found to identify him with the solider referred to in the Certificate of Comptroller of N.C.
Indeed the statement of his service is at variance with that of the soldier to whom that certificate refers.
Mr. Allen should prove his service by those who were cognizant of it if such can be found. If not, it should be made clear that he has always had the reputation of having been a Revolutionary Soldier, and that only out of them appears on the records of N.C.

J. Wilson
(Kirby)

the original of this letter is on file in Joseph Hughes [illegible] S. 7047

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State of North Carolina
County of Yancey

On this 4th day of January A.D. one thousand eight hundred and fifty two personally appeared before the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions now sitting for said county, Thomas Gardner Andrew Banks and Nathan Horton, all credible and disinterested witnesses, who [illegible] duly swore according to law law [sic] declare on their oaths that they have been for many years well acquainted with John Allen who is respected and believed in this county to have been a soldier of the Revolutionary War and that it is generally believed throughout the county, and that if it has ever been disputed by any one, that a great many years ago they have heard him speak of living in several battles and that they [illegible] recollect hearing him mention one by the name of Guilford Court House.

Deponents further state that said John Allen is a man of good character and is in their opinion at least 90 years old, and quite infirm & they have never heard of any other John Allen than the one above mentioned, and they believe him to be a revolutionary soldier.

Thomas Gardner (seal)
Andrew Banks (seal)
Nathan Horton (seal)

Sworn to and subscribed in open court

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-nt on the day and year above written and
The Court hereby certify that Thomas Gardner Andrew Banks and Nathan Horton are credible and disinterested witnesses and their statements are entitled to full faith and credit, and they concur in their statements in relation to the service of John Allen whose character is good.

C.R. Byrd Chair

State of N. Carolina
County of Yancey [illegible] E.H. Honeycutt clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for said do hereby certify that C.R. Byrd Esq is Chairman of our said Court duly commissioned and sum according to law and the signature is genuine, in testimony of which I have set my hand and affixed the seal of my office at Burnsville on this 4th day of January A.D. 1832.
E.H. Honeycutt Esq

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JOSEPH HABERSHAM CHAPTER
ATLANTA, GEORGIA

March 1st

Dear [illegible]

Will you send pension record of John Allen [underlined] who was born in Charlotte or Iredell Co. N.C. and died in Buncombe Co

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RECORD & PENSION OFFICE
WAR DEPARTMENT
MAR 5 1901
645943

N.C. dates unknown.

Respy
Mrs. W L Peel
Regent J.H.C.
469 Peachtree
Atlanta
Ga

PENSION OFFICE US
MARCH 9 1901

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O.W. & N. Division
MAR 29 1901
R E C E I V E D.

19th March

A question addressed to you several months ago having remained unanswered I with to repeat it.

Did John Allen [underlined] of N.C. [underlined] receive a pension either for '76 or 1812 & if so will you kindly state facts in the case?

Also, was there any pension roll ever published

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prior to that of 1840? I wrote to [illegible] this month, and he referred me to you.

Respy,
Mrs. Wm Lawson Peel
Hou State Regent of the D.A.R.
469 Peachtree St.
Atlanta
Ga

PENSION OFFICE
MAR 23 1901

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769 N. Garey Ave.
Pomona California
Dec., 15th-1935

Bureau of Pensions
Washington D.C.

Dear sir-

Will you kindly send me a copy of the data submitted by John Allen (who lived in Western N.C.) when he applied for his pension after the revolutionary war. I am not positive of his place of residence at the time of application. However it is possible he lived in Pensocola or Burnsville N.C.

Thanking you

Very truly yours
signature
(Mrs.) Mable L. Domm

Received Dec 20 1935

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32978
Record & Pension Office
645943
Mar 5 1901
War Department

Atlanta, Ga
March 1, 1901

John Allen
____, Co. _____, Reg't of N.C.
Rev. War
Mrs. W.L. Peel requests further record

WRAPPER.
(515)


Record and Pension Office
WAR DEPARTMENT
Washington, March 6, 1901.

Respectfully returned to

Mrs. W. L. Peel, Regent
Joseph Habersham Chapter, D.A.R.
No. 469 Peachtree Street
Atlanta, Georgia.

Applications of this character should be addressed to the Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C., who is custodian of the pension records of the Revolutionary war, and whose office is separate and distinct from the Record and Pension Office of the War Department.

MAR 20 1901
RECEIVED

BY AUTHORITY OF THE SECRETARY OF WAR
F.C. Ainsworth
Chief, Record and Pension Office.
Per [illegible]
(800a)