Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 5410, William Forbes, Penn.

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Service Penn. Forbes, William
Number S 5410
Contents carded

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Inscribed on the Roll of Pennsyla Pittsg at the rate of 120 Dolars [blank] cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 2d day of February 1837 and sent to [illegible name] Esq. Pittsg. Pa
Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1836 $ 660-
[illegible] allowance ending 4 Mch 37 60-
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$720-
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{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832}
Recorded by Wm Allison [signature] Clerk,
Book E. 2 Vol 5 Page 122

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admitted 2 yrs [illegible] $120.

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State of Pennsylvania Allegheny County [illegible] on the 24th day of November A.D 1836 personally appeared before the [illegible] a Justice of the peace in an for the county of Allegheny [illegible] William Forbes a resident of [illegible] Township in the county of Allegheny & the state of Pennsylvania aged Eighty three years old, Who being first [illegible] according to Law- [illegible] his Oath make the following decleration in order to obtain the [illegible] of the Provision made by Act of Congress Passed June 7 1832- That he entered in the Army of the United States in the year A.D 1776 on the 12th day of August - with Captain James Piggot and served  in the 8 Regiment of the Pennsylvania line, under the follwing named officers - [illegible] James Piggot Cap' Richard Butter Magr, William Wilson Lient Colonal and Enad McCay Colonel - that he and a citizen of the County of Washington State of Pennsylvania at the time he entered into the Army, that he was rendevoused at Kittening on the Allegheny River, that he was marched from Kittening to Philadelphia, from Philadelphia to Banlrooke in the State of New Jersey, that he fought in the Battle of Brandywine on the 11 day of Sept. 1777- and also in the Battle of German Town on the 4 of Octo in the same year, was also in scrimage at Banbrooke in the State of New Jersey upon the [illegible] River and [illegible] and further states [illegible] he was in a scrimage at a place called Cauchesbridge in Chester County Pennsylvania and was also stationed a while at or near a place called [illegible] up the North Rivers, he states he was marched from thence to the head of the Elk River [illegible] and was finally marched back to Pittsgh from a place called the Valley Forge in the fall of the year 1778[.] deponant states that he was stationed at Fort McIntosh on the Ohio River and aided in building it - that he was afterward stationed at Fort Lawrence and helped to build it on the Tuscaramas River. Got orders to leave Fort Lawrence & march under the command Majr Varnum to Pittsburgh; Deponant further stats that he was three years and one month in the service of the United States Army - States further that he was Sent as a volunteer under Captain Samuel Brady and a tour of the Allegheny river. I was at the taking and distroying

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of the Muncy Towns, States that he was marched back to Pittsburgh; and was discharged at Pittsburgh in the month of Septr A.D. 1779 by Lieutenant Stephan Byards; states his discharge was first in the possession of [illegible] Roberts of Allegheny County, that he cannot tell what came of it afterwards. and recollects how many years since [illegible] Roberts got his certificate of discharge list [illegible] Roberts get his name [illegible] and the Pensions list under Act g Congress of the 18 March 1818 and deponant states that he never Received any Pension nor any [illegible] of Pension Money whatever, and if it was [illegible] in his name it never came to his hand - and deponant states that he is informed that his name was afterwards struck from the Pension Rolls because he did not make the affidavit and Proof as to his prior duty regained by subsequent Act of Congress - This deponant further states that by reason of bodily infirmary he is unable to allow [illegible] to make this deposition noo is he able to [illegible], as they all reside at a distance of Sixteen miles at least from the residence of deponant - He [illegible] relinquishes every claim [illegible] to a Pension of annuity brought the [illegible] and he declares that his name is not on any Pension Rolls of any [illegible] in any state in the United States
Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me [signature] Thomas [Illegible] 
[Signed] William Forbes 
Allegheny County S - Thomas I Hewit a Justice of the peace do hereby certify that the [illegible] of William Forbes the above named deponant are such as to disable him from attending [illegible], at this season of the year in [illegible];and further that it would be [illegible] impractisable in my opinion- to procure the attendance of a [illegible] of Court at his house to take his deposition. In [illegible] where of I have [illegible] my hands and [illegible] this 21 st day of November A.D. 1836
Thomas I Hewit

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State of Pennsylvania
Allegheny County
I James Logan Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Allegheny in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania do by these [illegible] certify that Thomas I Hewit Esquire the foregoing Certificate was given and who has [illegible] in his own proper handwriting subscribed his name was at that time and now is an acting Justice of the Peace [illegible] and for the county aforesaid duly commissioned and sworn to all whose acts as such full faith and credit [illegible] due and of right ought to be given throughout the United States and elsewhere. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand affixed seal of the said Court at Pittsburgh in the County aforesaid this Ninth day of December Anno Dom. 1836
James Logan [illegible]

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O.W. & N. Div. I 5410 L. W. B. 
Department of the Interior Bureau Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C., Aug.3, 1896
Madam:
Replying to your request for information concerning the military record of William Forbes, a soldier of the Revolutionary War, you are advised that he made application for pension on May 5, 1813, at which time he was residing in Moore township, Allegheny County, Pa., (age not stated) and his pension was allowed for three years' actual service as a [illegible] in the Pennsylvania troops, Revolutionary War; a part of the time he served under Capt. James Piggot and Col. William Wilson. He enlisted from Washington County, Pa.
Very respectfully, Commissioner Miss Evelyn Louise Patterson, Beaver, Beaver Co., Pa.

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Fort Pitt Sept. 15.th 1779
William Forbes Serjeant in the Eighth Pennsylvania Regim being enlisted for three years from the 12.th of August 1776 and having faithfully served the above Time as a good soldier is hereby honorably discharge from the Service Given under my Hand this 15.th Day of Sept. 1779- [black seal stamp]To all Concerned [illegible first initial] Mayard [illegible]

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To what time was William Forbes Sergt 8$ [illegible] month paid at the x Phila [illegible] agency under the act of 18 March 1818-  + to whom the several sums were paid; GMC 14 June '36 x probably Pittsburg agency
Paid to 4th March 1820 as appear by [illegible]

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[black stamp] Pittsburgh Pa Oct 23 
Oct 27 Mr. Forbes act 1818 7 Oct 1878 pa
JL. Edwards Esq
War department Pension Office Washingtons city

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[black stamp] Pittsburgh Pa Oct 23 
Oct 27 Mr Forbes act-1818 7 Oct 1878 pa
JL Edwards Esq War department pension office Washingtons city

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Mr. Edwars. I enclose the deposition of Wm Forbes + his son Arthur Forbes, made before M. B. Lorrie Esq for the purpose of having Wm Forbes' name re-instated upon [illegible] the list. I this day accidentally saw for the first time the published "Pennsylvania Pension Roll" and paid the name of Wm Forbes, on the 66 th page with the remark, "dropped from the roll under act May 1, 1820" this perhaps accounts for what young Mr. Roberts appears to have told them which they may have imperfects understand or remembered. I hope the enclosed papers will [illegible] him to have his name reinstated on the roll, with right to his arrears of pension. What arrears he is entitled to I have not been able to inform. If I have not [illegible] the forms required by the department will you please send me the proper instruction [illegible]. Walter H. Lorrie Pittsburgh Oct. 22. 1835 He wishes to place on the roll of the of the Pittsburgh Agency

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Pa Dec 13 
[black stamp] Pittsburgh Pa Dec 9
L Edwards Esquire Pension Office War Department Washington City

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Pa Dec 13
[black stamp] Pittsburgh Pa dec 9 L Edwards Esquire Pension Office War Department Washington City

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Pittsburgh Dec 8 1836
Dear Sir, I again send you the application of William Forbes for a pension in another form. If it is possible to pass it as it now is it will be a real charity to him. He is not able to have it done in any other form + perhaps never will be. I have his original certificate of pension in my possession, but I presume it is unnecessary to send it or it would have be called for before this time. I shall be thankful to you for an early answer. I am [illegible] very respectfully yrs Walter H Lorrie

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The Judge must certify that the claimant is an indigent circumstances {excessive print bleed-through from back side of document]

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To the [illegible] the Secretary of War
The petition of William Forbes residing in Moore township Allegheny County in the State of Pennsylvania an applicant for a [illegible] under the act entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land I name [illegible] of the United States in the Revolutionary War." Respectfully [illegible] [8 words illegible] soldier for three years in the Eighth Pennsylvania Regiment Commanded by Lieut Col. S Bayard against the common enemy when he was honorably discharged by the said [illegible} Pittsburgh an will by his discharge [illegible] mor fully appears. That your petitioner is now old + infirm and in reduced circumstances. William Forbes Discharge certificate attached here removed for safekeeping WLC Aug 4/04

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Pennsylvania [illegible]
Before the undersigned President of the Fifth Judicial District personally appeared William Forbes who being duly sworn doth depose and say that the facts as states in his memorial are true - and that he needs the [illegible] of his county for his support.
Sworn & Subscribed this eighth day of May A.D. 1818 - Saml Roberts {signature] William Forbes admitted
Pennsylvania [illegible]
I Samuel Roberts President of the courts of Common Pleas of the Fifth Judicial District in the commonwealth aforesaid do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said William Forbes did serve in the Revolutionary War, as stated in the preceding declaration against the common enemy for the term of nine months at one [illegible] on the continental [illegible] and I am also satisfied that he is in indigent circumstances. And I now transmit the [illegible] and testimony had before me to the Secretary for the department of war [illegible] to the direction of the aforemention act of congress. In testimony whereof [illegible] my hand and seal at the City of Pittsburgh this twenty fourth day of September AD. 1818 Saml Roberts [large sunburst seal]

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Allegheny County ss

I Ephraim Pentland, Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas for said County as by these presents Certify that Samuel Roberts, Esq before whom the foregoing deposition was taken and who has thereunto in his own proper hand writing subscribed his name was at the time of taking such deposition and now is President of the fifth Judicial District of Pennsylvania including the County of Allegheny to all whose acts as such due faith and credit are and right ought to be given,

Witness my hand and seal of the said Court at Pittsburgh this 8th May A.D. 1818.

E Pentland Pro

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[illegible] Jan 25. [black stamp] Pittsburgh Pa Jan 20
S. Edwards Esquire Com. of Pension War Department Washington City
Wm Forbes - 4 Sept 1818 - 31.26
" - 96.-
Mar 1820 - 48
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$ 175.26

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Wm Forbes 
4 Sept 1818 - 31.26
" - 96.-
Mar 1820 - 48
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$175.26
[illegible] Jan 25. [black stamp] Pittsburgh Pa Jan 20
S. Edwards Esquire Com of pension War Department Washington City

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Pittsburgh Jany 19. 1836.
J.S. Esward Esq War Dep.
Sor, In Oct. last I directed to you the application of Wm Forbes of Allegheny County to be reinstated on the Pension list, to which I need a speedy answer dated 28 Oct. inclosing [scratched out word - proper} direction as to the proper form of application. Since then the matter has been overlooked by me until my attention is recalled it by the applicant. 
I find he cannot make the affidavits necessary to procure his re-instatement. He is poor but not entirely destitute of property. You will please indulge me in inquiring if he cannot be placed on the pension list under the act of 1831. and if he can what additional evidence is necessary & what form is to be [illegible].
I am very resp. [illegible]
Walter H Lowrie

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3467.
Pennsylvania roll
William Forbes, [illegible]
Sergeant.-
Pennsylvania line 3 years
In the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War
Inscribed on the roll of Penna- at the rate of 8 dollars per month, to commence [on] the 8th. of May 1818 - Certificate of Pension issued the 7th. of October 181[illegible] and sent to Saml. Roberts Esqr Pittsburgh Penna. -
Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1818 31.26
Semi-anl. all'ee ending 4th. Mar 1819 48.00
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Arrears 3 mo-24/31 $79.26
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4/30
{Revolutionary claim, Act 18th March, 1818}
Moore, Allegan

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see letter to W.H. Lowrie Act. 28. 1835 _ do- do. June 14. '36

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Revolutionary Service.
O.W. & N. Div. Memoranda.
Please supply as much as possible of the data called for below.
Full name of soldier: William Forbes
Place of residence before service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.)
Near Carlyle, Penna.
Place of residence after service: (Town, county, and State, if possible.) P.O. Irish [illegible] Beaver Co, now Lawrnece Co Penna.
Date of death (as near as possible):
July 7, 1817
Christian name of widow
Rebecca Stewart (or Stuart)
Did either he or his widow receive a pension? Do not know
Remarks: The town where died is now called Moravia, Lawrence Co., Pa.
Your name and address: (miss) Evelyn Smith Patterson
Beaver, Beaver Co., Pennsylvania 
6-870
[black stamp] Old war & navy Jul 3 1896
files
[black stamp] Pension Office U.S. Jul 29 1896

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Commissioner of Pensions. Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir -
I have filled as definitely as possible the memoranda sent me by Department of the Interior asking data in regard to Wm. Forbes a soldier in the Revolutionary War
I should be very grateful for the papers necessary to show that he so served his county. Very respectfully,
Evelyn Louise Patterson Beaver, Pa., Tuesday, July 28, 1896
[black stamp] Pension Office U.S. Jul 29 1896

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Rev War [checkmark] 5410 Invalid.
File No. 5410 William Forbes Sergt Rev. War
Act: June 7" 18[illegible]2
Index:-Vol. M, Page 129
[Arrangement of 1870.]

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Aug [illegible] W Miss E L Patterson Beaver Pa [illegible initial signed]

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The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 
Before WB Lowrie a Notary Public by authority of said Commonwealth residing in the City of Pittsburgh personally came William Forbes a venirable old man and being duly sworn an [illegible] to law did [illegible] and say that the original Pension Certificate which he now [illegible] to me and of which a true copy is here [illegible] was [illegible] to him by the War department soon after its date that he gave it together with a [illegible] to left the money then due at Philada to the Hon Saml Roberts who was then the President Judge of the Court of Common Pleas of this Allegheny County. That said Judge Roberts died soon after and defanent never received [illegible] Dollar or account of this certificate. That [illegible] Arthur Forbes called on a son of Judge Roberts to get what money the Judge might have received for & to get his certificate and the report made to this defanent was that no record could be found of this Judge having got any money and and that defenants name was not to be found of the list of Philada- which caused him to make no further anquiry about the matter until now. Once he now respectfully prays that his name may be transferred to the Pittsburgh agency that he may here receive his Pension or it becomes due here after or will as the arrears that are due to him Defanent lived in the now Alleghny County in 1775 [illegible] the Army and has continued to reside here ever since the war of Independence [illegible] William Forbes MB Lowrie
Arthur Forbes about 48 years of age the son of William Forbes above names [illegible] duly sworn according to law [illegible] and say that he well knows the above named William Forbes to be the [illegible] as above represented to [illegible]. That he will knows of his father having received the said certificate from the war office & that it was procured by the agency of the Hon Saml Roberts above mentioned. That said Roberts get a power of attorney to left the first payment

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that Judge Roberts died soon afterwards- and this defanent called on the son of Judge Roberts to [illegible] about what money he might have received and to get the certificate. That said son of the Judge told him he could find no charge or [illegible] rendered on the [illegible] his fathers [illegible]. That said that he was going soon to Philadelphia and he would make anquery about it there and for him to call back again. Defanent did so and said son of Judge Roberts told him that he could not tell whether his father had got any of the money or not and that he had examined the list of names of Pensioners and that he could not find the name of William Forbes among them. he gave this defanent this certificate- and from the statement made by young Mr Roberts this Defanent of his father thought it was not [illegible] to make any further anquiry on that subject. Lately, however, [illegible] of William Forbes & the representatives  [illegible] that he was justly entitled to receive his pension has caused him to make this [illegible] to harm his name [illegible] to the Pension LIst Roll [illegible] MB Lowrie Arthur Forbes
(copy of certificate)
War Department Revolutionary Claim I certify that [illegible] with the Law of the United States of this 18th of March 1818 William Forbes late a Sergeant Army of the Revolution is in scribed on the Pension List Roll of the Pennsylvania Agency at the rate of Eight dollars [illegible] per month to commence on the Eighth day of May 1818 [illegible] at the War Office of [illegible] United States this 4th day of October 1818 John C Calhoun [illegible] of War [circled question mark] (on the other side No 3467) All which [illegible] the said Notary Public to herby [illegible]

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certify under my hand and Notarial Seal office of Pittsburgh this 14th day of October 1835 as sworn to by the [illegible] M.B.Lowrie Not. [illegible]