Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 3256, for Conrad Idle, Pennsylvania

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(1)

State of Pennsylvania in the County of Philadelphia SS -- on the fourteenth day of March 1834 personally appeared before Jonathan L. Knight one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of Philadelphia  Conrad Idle a resident of Germantown in the County of Philadelphia and state aforesaid , aged sixty nine years on the 11th of January 1834, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit  of the provision made by the act of Congress June 7th 1832, that he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the spring of the year 1781 the month and day not noted with Christian full, (that is Christian full enlisted him) and served in the company commanded by Captain Jeremiah Jackson in the regiment commanded by Colonel Craig of the Pennsylvania firm  that he enlisted for the term of eighteen months and moved the whole term and was honorably discharged at Philadelphia, in the fall of the year 1782 as [illegible]  he _[illegible].  After he was  enlisted he was ordered to Philadelphia and in the course of a short period his company commanded by Capt. Jackson was ordered out to the south, we passed through Baltimore, Alexandria, Richmond, and for well [illegible] hearing the cannons at the time Cornwallis was taken sometime in the fall of 1781, his company was then within a days march of the place when they were ordered

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Pennsylvania  27.559

Conard Idle
of Philadelphia in the State of Pa, who was a Pv in the Company  commanded by Captain Jackson of the Reg.t commanded by Col. [illegible] in the Penna line for  [illegible line is faded]

Inscribed on the Roll of Penna at the rate of 
[?00] Dollars [blank]  Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 22d day of August and Sent to [address illegible]

Arrears to the 4th of Mch 3d            180.00
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept     30.00
                                                         $210.00
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832}



Recorded by I. J. Sprague, Clerk,
Book  6   Vol.   5   Page   29 -

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[Left fold]
8393
Pennsylvania

Catharine Idle said widow of Conrad Idle, who was a Private in the Revolution, Pennsylvania
Husband [illegible]12 Feb. 1840

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 60 Dollars --- Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843, + ending 7th April, 1844, when she died.

Certificate of Pension issued the 14th day of August [illegible] and sent to 
Wm. A. R McCloan
House of Reps

[Acts of March 3, 1843, and June 17, 1844.]
Recorded in Book D  Vol. 2,  Page 110

[Middle Fold]

Reported Payable to 

William Idle
Cath Perry
Geo Idle
+ John Idle
only surviving children

[Left Fold]

I do certify, that Conrad Eitel and Catherine Unruh, both single persons of the County of Philadelphia ---were lawfully joined together in holy Matrimony, on the thirtieth Day of July, in the Year of our Lord One Thousand Seven hundred and Ninety one.

Witness my Hand and Seal.  Friedrich Schmidt Minister of the Gospel at Philadelphia.
Given at Philadelphia this 30 day of July, 1791

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(1)

State of Pennsylvania in the County of Philadelphia SS -- on the fourteenth day of March 1834 personally appeared before Jonathan L. Knight one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of Philadelphia  Conrad Idle a resident of Germantown in the County of Philadelph iaand state aforesaid , aged sixty nine years on the 11th of January 1834, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit  of the provision made by the act of Congress June 7th 1832, that he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the spring of the year 1781 the month and day not noted with Christian full, (that is Christian full enlisted him) and served in the company commanded by Captain Jeremiah Jackson in the regiment commanded by Colonel Craig of the Pennsylvania firm  that he enlisted for the term of eighteen months and moved the whole term and was honorably discharged at Philadelphia, in the fall of the year 1782 as [illegible]  he _[illegible].  After he was enlisted he was ordered to Philadelphia and in the course of a short period his company commanded by Capt. Jackson was ordered out to the south, we passed through Baltimore, Alexandria, Richmond, and in [illegible] hearing the cannons at the time Cornwallis was taken some time in the fall of 1781, his company was there within a days march of the place when they were ordered , when the news arrived Cornwallis was taken.  He was never in any battles.  He was kept at the South passing through different places, which he cannot now recollect the whole.  He was in Pitsburg and after Cornwallis was taken he was in York Town and saw when the British had sunk their shipping and dead horses lying along the shores. He says he sold his certificate to a Broker in the city of Philadelphia  for £22 - as near as he can recollect.  He has lived in Germantown about 40  years.  Then, he was acquainted with at the time he enlisted, an

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[illegible] deceased or moved away.  He says Col. Craig was a [illegible] man, he ordered him one morning before daylight to bring him some water to wash himself.  The [illegible] had watered their horses above where he got his  and when the Col. found the water was muddy he ordered him, Idle, to be laid upon a log on his back and the water to be poured on his face.  
 
   He humbly relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present , and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any Agency in any State.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Jon T. [illegible]
Conard X (his mark) Idel

And the said court do hereby declare this  opinion that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.  

Rich.d Palmer[Signature]
Hugh Ferguson [Signature]

Philadelphia County   SS

I Richard Palmer Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas for the City + County of Philadelphia do hereby certify that the  Honorable [illegible name] and Hugh Ferguson  Esquires are appointed Judges of the Court of Common Pleas, duly commissioned + qualified and with full faith and credit in

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Michael Leoning aged 68 years on his affirmation page that he has been acquainted with Conrad Idel for more than forty years and has frequently heard him say that he was a soldier in the revolutionary war that he was in the army at the time Cornwallis was taken.  Conard Idel is a man of strict [illegible] and what he says I do not hesitate to say is the truth.  
Affirmed before Jedediah Strong,
Justice of Peace
14th March 1834

[Signature} Michael Levering 68

Philadelphia County/ SS I Randal Palmer Prothy of the Court of Common Pleas for the City + County of Philadelphia do certify that Jebediah Henry Esq is a Justice of the Peace for the County of Philadelphia our [illegible] and qualifications are

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We the undersigned being first sworn or affirmed do say that we have been intimately acquainted with Conard Idel for twenty years and more, and some of us for forty years and that he is a [illegible] and while he was able to labour, an industrious man.  A person of [illegible] habits and  what he states in his affidavit we believe to be true.  

Sworn or affirmed before
Jedediah Strong
Justice of peace
14t March 1834 
 [Signatures]  Jacob Hortter
A. 61
Wm Hottensteine  
70
Joseph Bockids
Age 57
Ann Hortter
Margaret Rottenhous
A 75

Magdelena [illegible] X through last Name
A 92

Hon. J. G. Watmough

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Germantown Philadelphia County

Paul Bishop aged 84 years being duly affirmed according to  law, says that he has known Conard Idel between forty and fifty years and he has heard many persons, since  [illegible], say that they knew Conard Idel before he entered the army, while he was in the army and long after he left the army. He has often heard Conard Idel say he was a soldier in the Revolutionary War at the time Cornwallis was taken.  Conrad Idel is a highly reputable citizen and what he says, no one that knows him, will hesitate to say that full credit can be given to it -- I am confident from what I have heard him and other say that what he states in his affidavit is true. witness my hand and seal this 15th day of March 1834.  
Affirmed  and subscribed 
before Jedediah Strong          Paul Bishop
Justice of Peace                  Age 84 years
13th March 1834.

Germantown 13"March 1834
Peter [illegible]  aged sixty seven, being affirmed according to law says he has known Conard Idel for thirty years and has heard himself and others say he was in the Revolutionary War and what is set forth in his declaration is in my opinion, worthy of credit as Conard Idel is a man of strict [illegible]. 

Affirmed and subscribed before Jedediah Strong Justice of Peace
13"March 1834

[signature] Peter Bu[illegible]    (seal)
Aged 67

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Germantown 13"March 1834

Benjamin Keller "Pastor of the Evangelical, Lutheran congregation of St. Michael Church, Germantown" on his solemn oath says he has known Conard Idel, Paul Bishop and Peter Buhtal for several years, that they are men of good standing in  society and very [illegible]  persons. 

Sworn and subscribed 
before Jedediah Strong    Benjamin Keller
 Justice of Peace
 13"March 1834

I certify that I am well acquainted with Michael Levering, Jacob North, William Kottingtin, Joseph Botkins, Ann Horten, Magdalena [illigible] Paul Bishop and Peter Bechtel, and  that they are all creditable persons and good and worthy members of society. I am not acquainted with Margaret Rittenhouse, but she has the appearance of a fine old lady and I am satisfied she would say nothing that she did not believe to be true. 

Witness my hand and seal this 29"May A. D. 1834.  

Jedediah Strong ( seal )

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Declaration
on behalf of the heirs of Mrs. Catherine Idle for pension under the act of 7th July, 1838, subtitled "An Act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows" and Acts subsequent thereto.  

State of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia County       SS
Be't known, that on this fourteenth day of June, one thosand eight hundred and forty eight, personally appeared before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas, holden at Philadelphia, in and for the County of Philadelphia, State of Pennsylvania, Levi Spenya resident of the County and state aforesaid, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain for the children of Catherine Idle, late of said County, deceased, the benefits of the provision made by the Act of Congress of 7th July 1838, and Acts subsequent thereto -- That he is sone of the Executors of the Estate of Catherine Idle, who departed this life, on the seventh day of April, A.D. one thousand eight hundred and forty-four, that the said Catherine Idle, was the widow of Conard Idle, a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States, and made application in her life time to be placed on the roll of pensioners, that she, the said Catherine Idle, did not in intermarry after the death of her husband, the aforesaid Conard Idle, but continues to be his widow until the day of her death.  He asks that certificates of pension for the amount that may be due, be issued to this applicant and  William Idle, the Executor of the Estate of the said Catherine Idle, for the use of her children.  

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year fist above written , in open Court, in presence of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas aforesaid.  
 
Edward Parnell

Levi May
An Executor of the Estate of Catherine Idle

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State of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia County     SS

I, John Smith, Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County, State of Pennsylvania, (being a Court of Record) holden at Philadelphia, in and for the County and State aforesaid, do hereby certify that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited to said Court that Catherine Idle, widow of Conrad Idle, a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States was a resident of the County of Philadelphia, State of Pennsylvania, in the year one thousand and eight hundred and forty-four, on the seventh day of April, in said year -- that she left four children one whose names are William Idle, Catharine, now the wife of Levi Sperry, George Idle, and John Idle, all of whom now survive.  I do further certify that the foregoing containing the original proceeding, before said Court in the matter of the application of the heirs of the aforesaid Catherine Idle for a pension.  

In  testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of said Court, at Philadelphia this fourteenth day of June, A. D. one thousand eight hundred and forty-eight.  

EllDavid
for John Smith
Prothonotary

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30.200

Conard Idle

Penn.a

for 1781 pr 18 mos.
$60.

Return j[crossed out]



Hon. Jno. G. Watnaugt

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WAR DEPARTMENT
Pension Office
3 of April 1834

Sir:

The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned.  The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form.  On comparing these papers with the following rules and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed.  The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done.  These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus }_) .  You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.  

A STATEMENT, showing the Service of Conard Idle.

Period When The Service Was Rendered - 1781

Duration of The Claimant's Service -
Years  1    Months  /7  Days [blank]

Rank of the Claimant - Priv.

Name and Rank of the Field Officers Under Whom He Served -  Cap. Dulles   Col Craig

Age at Present and Place of Abode When he Entered the Service - 69 years

Proof by Which the Declaration is Approved - 
Witnesses not certified to be credible


I am respectfully
Your obedient servant,
JAMES L. EDWARDS
Commissioner of Pensions

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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.

   The following regulations have been adopted:  
   This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line", "State Troops", "Militia", and "Volunteers", all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c.  Persons who served on behalf of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding partular places at night, and wee not recognized as being in actual military service.  

   Four generl classes of cases are embraced in this: Law;
     1.  tht Regular Troops.
     2.  The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.                 
     3.  Persons employed in the Naval Service.
     4.  Indian Spies.   
    

   As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary war exist in the Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides.  And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.  

DECLARATION

In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832. 

State, Territory, or District of }
County of                              }   SS

On this  [blank] day of [blank] personally appeared (a) before [blank] A.B. a resident (b) of [blank] in the county of [blank] and State, Territory or District of [blank] of [blank] aged (c)  [blank] years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress, passed June 7, 1832.  That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) [blank], with [blank] and served in the [blank] (e) regiment of the [blank] line, under the following named officers:  

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, sons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of [blank].l
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.    A. B.  

[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.  

I [blank] of the Court of [blank] do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of [blank] for a pension. 

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this [blank] day of [blank] &c. 

If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.  

Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power.  This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the service of the applicant, and such circumstances connected  herewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.  

If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

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alleged service as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6. {To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it?
{To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons--one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.

[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For [blank] year [blank] months, and [blank] days, I served as a [blank]. For [blank] months and [blank] days, I served as a [blank]; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. [underlined] The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses [end of underline] and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

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WIDOW, &c.
File No. 3256
Catherine Idle
Widow.
Conrad Idle,
Pn. Rev. War.
---
---
Act March 3, 43. June 1", 44
-
Index: -- Vol. A, Page 364
[Arrangement of 1870.}

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Catherine Idle
of Conrad

Pennsylvania

Rejected.
let 24 April 184[illegible]

J. Maher

husband died after
passage of act of 7
July 1838

let to Hon. A. R. McIlvain
June 26th, '48

Act 7 July 1838

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10468

Pennsylvania
Catherine Idle dec'd.
Widow of Conrad Idle
who was a pensioner under the Act of 1832
and who died on the 12th Feb 1840
of Phil'a — in the State of Penn
who was a private in the Comp'y
commanded by Captain Jackson of the
Regt commanded by Col. Craig in
the Revolution for 18 months

Inscribed on the Roll of Phil.
at the rate of 60 Dollars —
Cents per annum, to commence on the 12th day of
Febr. 1840

Certificate of Pension issued the 14th day of
August '48 and sent to Hon.
A. R. McIlvain 
Total amount, $

(Act July 7, 1838.)
Recorded by Th. Lumpkin, Clerk,
Book D Vol 1 Page 1223

Reported
Payable to
William Idle
Cath'e. Sperry
Geo. Idle, &
John Idle only
surviving children

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Philadelphia City and County, ss.
I, Alexander Browne, Esquire, 
Register for the Probate of
Wills, and Granting Letters of Administration, in and for the City
and County of Philadelphia, in the State of Pennsylvania;

DO HEREBY CERTIFY AND MAKE KNOWN, That on the Twentieth day
of April in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and forty four
Letters of Administration on the Estate of
Catharine Idle
deceased, were granted unto Wm Idel & Levi Sperry
they having first given security well and truly to administer the same.

GIVEN under my hand and seal of office, this Thirteenth day of
June in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and forty-eight
W Browne
Register

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State of Pennsylvania}
Philadelphia County} ss
On this fourteenth day of June A.
D. one thousand eight hundred and forty-eight, personally appeared
before the undersigned an Alderman in and for the City of Phila=
delphia, and Ex officio a Justice of the Peace, duly authorised by
law to administer oaths, William Buddy, a resident of the
County of Philadelphia State aforesaid, who being by me first
duly sworn according to law, doth depose and say, that he was
acquainted with Catharine Idle, widow of Conrad Idle,
a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States — that
she the said Catharine Idle, died in the County of Philadel=
phia, State aforesaid, on the seventh day of April, one thou=
sand eight hundred and forty four — that this de=
ponent dug the grave for the said Catharine Idle,
and was present at, and assisted in depositing her
remains in said grave, on the tenth day of April one
thousand eight hundred and forty four
William Buddy

Sworn to and subscribed
before me, the day and
year first above mentioned
Joel Cook
Alderman and Ex officio
a Justice of the Peace

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I Joseph Simon Cohen Prothonotary of the Supreme 
Court of Pennsylvania for the Eastern District
do certify that Joel Cook Esquire before whom
the foregoing affidavit was taken and whose name
is thereto subscribed in his own proper handwriting
was at the time of taking the same and now is an
Alderman of the City of Philadelphia and Ex-officio,
a Justice of the Peace to whose acts as such
full faith and credit are and ought to be
given in Courts of Justice and elsewhere.

In testimony whereof I
have hereunto subscribed my
name & affixed the Seal of
the said Supreme Court at
Philadelphia this seventeenth
day of June A.D. 1848.
J Simon Cohen
Prothy

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Moyamensing Bank
Philadal. April 1840.

Sir

The enclosed papers were left at this Agency by the Atty. of Catharine Idle, widow of Conrad Idle, deceased (late a pensioner of the U States;  who wishes to obtain a pension under either Act of 4th  July 1836 or 7th July 1838.  The day of her husbands death February 12th 1840 eas satisfactorily proved before the Common Pleas Court of philad. Do.; which proof can be send by reference to the Voucher for last payment, accompanying the Agents Return to the  3rd Auditor, for the quarter ending 31st March 1840.
Should she be entitled to a pension, and the facts proved be sufficiently, be pleased to forward a Certificate addressed to
Very respectfully
Your Obt. Sert.
Jno Maher
Pension Clerk

J L Edwards Esqr.
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington.

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6953
Catharine Idle
of Conrad 
Pennsylvania

M(illegible)    1790
Must (illegible)  12 Feby 1840
Now due 7 April 1844

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(Copy)
War Department,
Revolutionary Claim

I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June 1832. Conard Idle of the State of Pennsylvania, who was a Private during the Revolutionary War; is entitled to receive Sixty dollars per annum, during his natural life, Commencing on the 4th of March 1831, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March, and the 4th of September in Every Year.

Given at the War Office of the United States, this 22nd day of August one thousand eight hundred and thirty four.

John Forsyth
Acting Secretary of War.
(seal)

Examined and Countersigned} J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions (Oct 3 '39)

Managing Bank
Philad. Mar. 21 1840.

I hereby certify that the foregoing is true copy of the original Certificate surrendered to this Agency by the Atty, of Catharine Idle widow of Conard Idle deceased, and payment being made of the pension due to the day of his death, (February 12th 1840) 
Jno Maker
Pension Off.

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State of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia County} ss.

     Be it known, that on this nineteenth day of July, A.D. one thousand eight hundred and forty-eight, personally appeared before the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, duly authorized by law to administer oaths, William N. Johnson, a resident of the county and state aforesaid, and known by me to be a person of credibility, and whose evidence is worthy do depose and say, that he was well acquainted with Conrad Idle, deceased, that as his physician he attended him in his last illness - that he, the said Conrad Idle died n the twelfth day of February in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty - that at the time of his death he resided in the County of Philadelphia,  state aforesaid and was reputed to have been a soldier of the Revolution - said deponent further  saith that he was also acquainted with Catharine Idle, widow of the aforesaid. Conrad Idle that as her physician he attended her in her last illness, and that she, the said Catharine Idle, departed this life on the seventh day of April, in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty-four residing at the time of her death in the county and state aforesaid.  Dais deponent further saith that he testifies to the foregoing facts and dates and knows them to be correct, from the records he has kept.
                             
                      William H. Johnson M.D.
Sworn to and subscribed
before me, the day and year first above mentioned.
                                   //s//
                           Joseph King Jr.
                               Justice of the Peace.

County of Philadelphia ss.

    I John Smith Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Philadelphia, Do certify that Joseph King Esqr. before whom the above affidavit was made, and certified and subscribed. (illegible) in his own proper handwriting, was at the time taken was and Alderman, in and for the County aforesaid - and Ex Officio of Justice of the Peace, in and for the said County as such was duly commissioned and (illegible) and to all his ex officia acts full faith and credit are due and should be given as well in court of Jurisdiction as thereat.

    In testimony whereof I have set my hand and affixed the seal of the said court, this twelfth day of July Anno Domini one thousand eight hundred and forty eight.
                                        //s//
                                   J. Smith ASPO
                                            Prothonotary

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H. Reprs.  June 20, 1848

Hon. J. L. Edwards
Com. Pensions.

Sir,

    I send enclosed, the application of the Executor of Mrs. Cath. W. Idle of Penna. for pension under the Act of 1838 & the application to be placed on the roll and registered some time (soon).

                                       Very respectfully,
                                       Your obt. srvnt. 
                                                  //s//
                                        A. R. McSwain

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Conrad Idle Pa. Act 7 June 1832 $60.99 per annum.  To what who was he last paid?  
                                                             GLA

Pension Offer
August 12 1848 
 Died 12th Feby. 1840
paid to death.                          A.B.T.

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Phila. Aug. 20, 1834

Dear Sir,
     
    Allow me to (illegible) your attention to the enclosed papers they have been mislaid for a long while & it makes me the more anxious to have a speedy decision on the case. 

                                 I remain (illegible)
                                 Very truly your Obnt. Svt.
                                             //s//
                                   Jn. G. Wartmough

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Hon. J. G. Watmough,

    Sir,  
        I have certified to the credibility of the witnesses according to instructions and hasten to return the same.

29th May A.D. 1834      Yours Respectfully,
                                     Jedediah Strong

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H. Repr. Aug. 3, 1848

Hon. J. L. Edwards,
Comm. Pensions

Sir,

    I send, herewith the evidence called for in your letter of the 26th June to establish the day of death of Conrad and Catharine Idle, and respectfully desire your early attention to the case.

                            Very respectfully,
                             Your Obt. Svt.
                                       //s//
                              A. R. McSwain

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Apl 43  9495
No. 6955

Catharine Idle Decd.
wid. of Conrad
Pa.
Acty July 1838
(illegible) 18 mo. (illegible)
$40.00 per annum
(illegible) 12 Fby 1840 to 4 March 1841 payable to William Idle, Catharine Sperry (illegible) Idle and John Idle only surviving children of Catharine Idle decd. (illegible) Act 2 March 1843 $60.00 per anm. (illegible) 4 March 1843 to 7 April 1844 the day of death payable to her children (that) are alive.                            
                            Hon A. R. McSwain
                                            House of Rep.