Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 30,822, William Allen, N.C.

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(3-1776)
SERVICE
NUMBER
N.C
Allen, William
S. 30,822
Born in Pa
CONTENTS

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7825
Illinois
William Allen
of Gallatin in the State of Illinois
who was a Private in the company commanded
by Captain (---) of the Regt commanded
by Col: Lytle, in the N Carolina 
line for 11 months & 11 days.
$37.89/100
Inscribed on the Roll of Illinois
at the rate of 37. Dollars 89. Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 9th day of April 
1833 and sent to Wm J. Gatewood. Equality: Illinois
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833  75.78
Semi-anl allowance 4 Septr'33   18.94
$94.72
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Wm R. Pallmer. Clerk.
Book E   Vol. 8.   Page 55.

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State of Illinois }
County of Gallatin }  Set.
On this 18th day of September 1832, personally appeared in open court Before the Hon Thomas C. Brown associate justice of the Supreme Court of the State of Illinois and presiding Judge of the Hamilton Circuit Court now sitting, William Allen, a resident of the said County of Hamilton and State of Illinois aged seventy three years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
That he volunteered [preceding word lined through] intered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated
He volunteered a private in the Militia of North  Carolina about the first of September 1781, and rendezvoused at Hillsborough North Carolina. The captain who commanded his company he has no recollection of only his appearance which was that if a keen active man, the Leutenant of his company was by the name of John Campbell, and the Ensign was Robert Scoby. He states that he was under the command of his officers but a short time as the sequel will show, but that the colonel of his regiment was Col Archibald Lytle, who was a regular officer much else of the organization of the troops and of the officers he does not now recollect, at the time of entering the service he resided in Orange County North Carolina, he was born in the State of Pennsylvania and went Orange at an early age. He volunteered for a six months tour, and the troops to which he belonged were raised for the purpose as he understood of marching to join Genl Green in the high hills at Santee River thence to march into South

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Carolina to a place then called Ninety Six now Cambridge, but while at Hillsborough preparing to go on this expedition the Tories under the command of Tory Fannon, and the British under Col McDougan come upon us and took three hundred of is prisoners among whom was Governor Burk, he saw Col Lytly wounded by a sword in the head, by Tory Fannon, this transaction took place at Hillsborough as above stated on the 4th of September 1781. that night we remained near Hillsborough and were carried next morning by the British and Tories to a place called Lindly's Mill, when a pretty severe and well fought battle took place between the a force of the Republicans and the British and Tories, during which engagement the prisoners were kept in a close place with a strong guard around them.  He recollects well of seeing them killed celebrated Tory Col McNeil, That night after the battle at Lindley's Mill we were forced off by our captors and taken by Wilcox's Iron Works to Wilmington, where we were put on board of British ships which steered toward the West India Islands and then taken and disembarked us at Charleston, where the greater part remained untill peace but this applicant states that he was exchanged on the 11th of August 1782. and came on back home in Orange.  He further states that about five years after this period he moved out to Virginia above Abingdon, from thence in about [preceding two words lined out] he moved to Tennessee, where he lived 12 or 13 year and thence to the neighborhood of where he now lives in Hamilton County about 12. or 13. year ago. He further state that he

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has no Documentary evidence, having never received a written discharge nor any money of any kind or description for his services, and that he knows of no person by whose testimony he can procure to prove his services. He knows James Hall a representative in the Legislature from Hamilton County & Capt Samuel Siston & others
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present; and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State or Territory 
his 
William  X Allen
mark
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
We Samuel Sexton residing in the County of Hamilton and State of Illinois and James Hall residing in the same , hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with William Allen who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be seventy three years of age, that he is reputed and believed, in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to & subscribed the day and year aforesaid
James Hull
Samuel Sexton
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter
and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war Department, that the
above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states, and the court further certifies that James Hall who [preceding word lined out] and Saml Sexton who have signed the preceeding certificate are residents of the County of Hamilton are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit
I, Jesse C. Lockwood Clerk of the Circuit Court

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in and for the County of Hamilton do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in matter of the application William Allen for a pension
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand seal of office this 18th day of September in the year of our Lord 1832.
Jesse C. Lockwood Clk.c.c.Ha
11846

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William Allen
Illinois
No. 7.825
Adm for 11. Month 11 days
from 1781
33.33
3.33
1.11
12
$37.89
Wm J Gatewood
Agent
Equality
Gallatin County
Ill.

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BRIEF in the case of William Allen
County of Gallatin in the State of Illinois
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Open Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 73
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period.
in the Militia
1th Sep In 1781 volunteerd,
exchanged 11 Aug 1782
he was in service and prisoner
Duration of Service.
Years, | Months, | Days.
  | 11 | 11
Rank.
As a
private
Names of General and Field Officers
under whom he served.
Gen.
Cap does not recollect Col Lytle
5. In what battles was he engaged? Battle of Lyndlys
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Orange Co N. Carolina
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
he does not make his declaration in his County but in his Curcuit
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
George Payton
Examining Clerk.

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AWF
OWN
Rev. and 1812
War Section.
October 2, 1926
Mrs. Hugh Hanna
Weaverville, R. D. 1
N. C.
Madam:
I have to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 30832, it appears that William Allen was born in Pennsylvania, date not stated.
While residing in Orange County, North Carolina, he enlisted September 1, 1781 and served as a private under Lieutenant John Campbell in Colonel Archibald Lytle's North Carolina Regiment, he was in a skirmish at Hillsborough, where taken prisoner and put on a British Ship, carried to Charleston and held until exchanged, August 11, 1782.
He was allowed pension on his application exeecuted September 18, 1832, while a resident of Hamilton County, Illinois, aged seventy-three years.
There is no family data on file.
Respectfully,
E. W. MORGAN
Acting Commissioner.

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30822
Revy  INVALID.
File No. 30,822
William Allen
Pri Rev War
Act: June 7th 32"
Index:-- Vol. 2, Page 6
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1926 Oct. 2 - Hist to Mrs. Hugh Hanna  AWF.

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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of William Allen, which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?  Yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? No
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? yes he made it in the Circuit
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?  Yes
V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout of pension he is entitled?  Yes
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?  Yes
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?  Yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?  Yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No Clergyman   yes to others
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?  No
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?  Yes
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?  Yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?  Yes
est 2.
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For --- year --- months, and --- days, I served as a ---
For --- year --- months, and --- days, I served as a ---; and for such service I claim a pension.

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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paíd according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served ; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison ; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

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Salem Ill
Sept 25th 
Pensions Claims
free
Oct 4.--
11846
Illinois
Hon. Lewis Cass
Secretary of War
Washington City -
P

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Equality, September 25, 1832
Sir
Enclosed I have the honor to submit the declaration of William Allen, a soldier of the revolution made to obtain a pension under the late act of Congress.
Please to communicate the result to me at this place.
I have the honor to be, Sir,
Your obedient servant,
Wm J Gatewood
Hon. Lewis Cass

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Revolutionary
Act 7. June 1832.
Wm Allen, decd.
Pensioner.
Illinois.
Claim Increase.
To examine papers --
Power of Attorney in 
favor of 
Ch. C. Tucker,
Atty.
Present.

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Know all men by these presents that I William Allen do hereby constitute and appoint Chas C Tucker of Washington City D.C. my true and lawful Agent and Attorney to to prosecute the Claim of William Allen for any amount of Revolutionary Pension or increase of pension that may be due under the provisions of the Act of June the 7th 1832, or any other Act or Resolution of Congress and I hereby authorize my said Attorney to examine all papers and documents in relation to said Claim on file in the Department at Washington City or elsewhere to file aditional evidence or arguments and to receive the Certificate which may be issued for said Claim and to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed, that my said Attorney may lawfully do in the premises.
Witness my hand and seal this 29th day of April, 1854.
William Allen {Seal}
In presence of
James G. Blades
John J. Ritchey
State of Illinois }
Hamilton County } S.S On this 29th day of April 1854, before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State above mentioned personally appeared and acknowledged the foregoing power of Attorney to be his act and deed for the purpose therein mentioned
J. S. Kinnear {JP}
State of Illinois }
Hamilton County } ss On this 29th day of April 1854 before me the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid personally appeared William Allen a resident of said County, and made oath according to the law that he is in identical William Allen who executed the foregoing power of Attorney and that he is directly interested in said Claim and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my said Attorney may use in prosecuting said claim.
William Allen
Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year above written,  
J. S. Kinnear {JP}
State of Illinois }
Hamilton County }  SS I Samuel A Martin Clerk of the County do hereby certify that John S. Kinnear Esq before whom the foregoing affidavit and acknowledgement were made and who has thereunto signed his name was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid duly commissioned and sworn and that all his official actions as such are entitled to full faith and credit,
In testimony whereof I have hereunto signed my name and affixed my official seal this 1st day of May 1854.
Saml. A. Martin Clerk
By Jno McElvain Deputy

Wm Allen $37.98
N.C. Contl
Gallatin Co. Ills. page 12. --

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Rev. & 1812
War section
Pension
R. D. 1 --  
Weaverville N.C.
Aug. 14 1926
To Mr. Washington Gardner
Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.
Dear Sir:-
On Aug. 5, 1924 I had your reply concerning John Welch & Wm, Allen In which you requested me to furnish other data, and another search would be made in my behalf.
I have this from the last one living of John Welch's family,
John Welch went in 1818 from Waynesville N.C. Haywood or Buncombe Co. to either Arkansas or Missouri and died there
He served in the General Assembly from
Haywood Co. N.C. in 1809, 1810  He came from Pa. to N.C. Soon aft, Revolution, earliest settler on Richland Creek.
In the Centennial of Haywood Co. N.C. 1808 -
1908- p - 14 - 15 it states that "John Welch," Wm. Allen and others of Revolutionary fame were veterans of the Rev and men of considerable influence in the Coun

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On page 112 Arthur's history of Western N.C. I quote,
Seven of these grand old patriots are buried in Haywood Co. N. C. Col. Wm. Allen I think Col Allen got his title from service in indian fights.
I have it that John Welch had 10, or 12 children, William, Andy, John, Jim (Devil Jim) & Mary, all I know names of. This informant says Arkansas is the state he went, and never came back. If you can settle John Welch, I shall be under many obligations. 
Very respectfully yours, 
Bessie B. Hanna
(Mrs. Hugh)
Pension Department,
Sent William Allen - as it was her 2" request, and it fit a "little-" AWF