Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 23440, Derick Ammerman, New York
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(3-1776)

Service
New York 

Ammerman, Derick
Amerman
Amberman
Ambleman
Margaret

Number
W. 23440

Contents
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1882 April 13 Morton C. Hunter as to his enquiry with Comss dated April 9 1787 to a pension due to a Derick Amerman not entitled
after death Rep'd

[Printed form with handwritten answers]    

New York 1771
Margaret Ammerman
widow of N.Y. Derick Ammerman who died on the 27 February 1813 of City N.Y. in the State of N. York, who was a priv. in the Co. commanded by Captain -- of the Re. commanded by Col. Willett in the N. York line for 23 mo. 4 days

Inscribed on the Roll of the City N. York at the rate of 77 Dollars 10 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. 
Inc'd. from $57.76/100

Certificate of Pension issued the 15 day of April 1847 and sent to Wm Valentine, Albany N.Y. 

Arrears to the 4th of 
Semi annual allowance ending 

{ Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the 3d

Recorded by D. H. Wood Clerk
Book C. Vol. 1. Page 106
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State of New York
City and County of New York} ss. 
On this twenty third day of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty seven, personally appeared before the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York, Margaret Amerman, a resident of the said City and County, aged seventy five years on the 24th day of August 1837 (last past)  who being first duly affirmed according to law (being a member of the Society of Friends, or Quakers) doth on her solemn affirmation make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the pension made by the act of Congress passed July 4th 1836. That her maiden name was Margaret Ranous and that she was lawfully married to Derick Amerman, a private soldier of the Revolutionary Army of the United States, on the 4th day of January in the year 1781, at the Township of Poughkeepsie, in Dutchess County and State aforesaid. That the marriage was solemnized before Zaccheus Newcomb, a Magistrate, at that time in the  Commission of the Peace for the said County of Dutchess; that the said Magistrate and his several sons are all dead and that she is therefore unable to procure any written transcript from his Register (if he kept any) of such marriage. And this affirmant further says, that soon after the said marriage, that is to say in the Spring immediately following, her husband the said Derick Amerman enlisted in the Revolutionary Army of the United States at a place called "Nine Partners," in said County of Dutchess (one David Flynn enlisting at the same time) and was absent from this affirmant, and as she believes doing duty as a private soldier for about ten months, that she has always understood and believes the campaign made during these ten months, and in which her said husband took part as a soldier was made in the Northern or Western part of the State of
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New York; that she has often heard him detail his extreme suffering during this period of military service, and also speak of a skirmish had with the Indians...
...the last incident she heard of during her husband's absence, and supposed for a time that he...was killed. That this affirmant is unable to state particularly the Regiment in which her husband served during this period, or to specify with certainty the name of any officer by whom he was commanded though she fully believes that he was employed in the Mohawk country and is informed that the late Col. Marinus Willett commanded in that quarter during the year 1781. That this affirmant is quite sure her husband was not drafted, nor a volunteer, nor a militia man, but that he enlisted, and a portion of his bounty was paid to him in wheat, Seven bushels of which was left with this affirmant, as a part of her support during his absence. This affirmant further says that her said husband returned from the army in the early part of the year 1782, and did not again enter into the service. That her and this affirmant moved to Queens County, Long Island, after the war, when they were settled a few years, and subsequently returned to Dutchess County, in the State aforesaid, where they continued to reside till the period of the death of her said husband which took place on the 27th day of February 1813. That this affirmant has never since married, but remained a Widow, and consequently was a widow on the 4th day of July 1836. That for the last 20 years she has resided mostly in the City of New York. And this affirmant further says, that she has no documentary evidence in support of her claim, and in corroboration of the preceding statement must refer to the annexed depositions, being are the proofs she has been able to collect after much trouble and research on the part of her friends. And this affirmant further saith that her said husband was illiterate and could not write his name. that he was frequently
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called Amberman, and Ambleman, so that if his name should be found on the Rolls of the Army of the Revolution, it may be spelled erroneously in the manner above suggested.
And this affirmant further says, that she has only recently been informed that her case fell within the provisions of the Act of Congress granting pensions to the widows of deceased Revolutionary soldiers, and that upon receiving such information, she has with as little delay as practicable got together the proofs hereto annexed, for the the purpose of making this claim. 
Margaret Amerman ["her" and "mark" written above and below the "X" mark designating her signature]

Subscribed and affirmed to in open court this 23d day of September 1837...
[signature] Jno T Irving
Judge of C Pleas for the City and County of New York

New York, Common Pleas
In Open Court }
I John T. Irving first Judge of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York, Do Certify that in my opinion the preceding declaration of Margaret Amerman, is in all essential particulars true, and entitled to full faith and credit. 
Dated September 23d 1837 
[signature] Jno T Irving
First Judge of the Court of Common Pleas for the city and County of New York
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City and County of New York ss. - I Thomas Jeremiah Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York and also Clerk of the said City and County, Do Certify that John T. Irving Esquire whose name is on this sheet twice subscribed, was on the day of the date of such signatures, First Judge of the court of Common Pleas for the city and County of New York, duly commissioned and sworn, and that the two signatures "Jno T. Irving" are both genuine, and in the proper hand writing of the said Judge. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said court and county, this fourth day of October 1837. 
[signature] Thos. Jeremiah Clerk 
[Illegible seal affixed next to the Clerk's certification]
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[hand-drawn hand pointing right]
It may be remarked that the declarant speaks of her marriage as having taken place "at the Township of Poughkeepsie" while the annexed depositions speak of it as happening "five miles east of Poughkeepsie"; the latter refers to the Village of Poughkeepsie, which is the County town, the township having the same name in about six miles square. There is no discrepancy in fact. October 4th 1837.
[signature] N. Dean

Omit-
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State of New York
City and County of New York

On this 31st day of January 1838, personally appeared in the Court of Common Pleas for the said City and County, Margaret Amerman, widow of Derick Amerman, a deceased Revolutionary soldier, and in order to avail herself of the benefit of the Act of Congress passed 4th July 1836, being first duly affirmed according to law, makes this supplemental declaration, which (with the proofs affixed hereto) she prays may be annexed to and considered as forming a part of her original application for a pension. The said affirmant says, that she was married to the said Derick Amerman in the month of January 1781, before Zaccheus Newcomb at that time, as she then, and now believes, a Justice of the Peace. That this affirmant thinks there can be no mistake in regard to the date of such marriage, because she has from early youth known her own age, and has constantly since from year to year kept her memory charged with that knowledge; that this affirmant was seventy five years old on the 24th day of August 1837 last past. And this affirmant says that she was eighteen years of age in the month of August immediately before the January in which her marriage took pace, that in regard to the two facts last above set forth, she has no doubt of her perfect accuracy, and she is informed by those capable of making the calculation, that is results that her marriage must have happened in the month of January 1781. And this affirmant further says that according to the best of her knowledge and belief, no record or entry of the date of her marriage was ever made, either in a Bible (or in any other Book or paper) belonging to this affirmant's family, or to her father, that she never at any time heard of any such entry having been made. That this affirmant and her deceased husband had a Bible in which they caused the date of the birth of their several children (seven in number) to be entered that such Bible passed into the possession of her oldest daughter about thirteen or fourteen years ago, which daughter was then and still in unmarried and has very frequently changed her place of residence by working in various families as a seamstress about the country. And this affirmant further says that she has frequently enquired of her said daughter within the last six or seven years, what has become of the said Bible, and has
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uniformly been answered that the same was lost, so that this affirmant is deprived of the means of aiding the enquiry as to the date of her marriage by establishing the age of the eldest child, the issue of such marriages - 
And this affirmant further says that her father (who was a Frenchman) owned a very large Bible, strongly bound and secured by clasps, in which he was accustomed often to read, - that such Bible was in the French language, and entirely unintelligible to all his family, but himself, - that this Bible after his death, passed into the possession of the affirmant's brother John, and that this affirmant on visiting her said brother about Ten or Twelve years since discovered that this Bible had been destroyed, as she saw many of the torn leaves used for domestic purposes about the house; - none of the family being able to read French she supposed that they deemed it of little, or no value, that in consequence thereof this affirmant is unable by actual examination to determine whether or not, her father had made a minute of the date of this affirmant's marriage, though she does not believe he ever did make such entry-
Margaret Amerman ["her" and "mark" written above and below the "X" mark designating her signature]
Affirmed to in open Court this 31st... day of January...1838
[signature] M. Ulshoeffer
a JCP

I certify that I have examined the affirmant Margaret Amerman as to the matter set forth in the above affirmations, and that in my opinion the facts therein stated, are entitled to full faith and credit - 
Dated January 31st. 1838 - 
[signature] M. Ulshoeffer
a JCP

City and County of New York. Ss: I Joseph Hoxie Clerk of the City and County of New York, and also Clerk of the Court of Common Please for the said City and County, Do Certify that Michael Ulshoeffer Esquire whose name appears twice subscribed on this sheet, was on the day of the date of such signatures Associate Judge of the Court of Common Pleas
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for the City and County of New York; and that the said two signatures “M. Ulshoeffer" above written are both genuine.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto signed my name, and affixed the seal of the said Court and County this thirty first day of January, in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight 
[signature] Joseph Hoxie Clerk
[peeling, Illegible seal affixed next to the Clerk's certification]
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State of New York Dutchess County}SS.
 
John Ranous of the Township of Pleasant Valley, County and State aforesaid, aged Seventy two years, and upwards, being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that he well remembers the marriage of Derick Amerman to Margaret Ranous, that the said Margaret is a sister of this deponent, and that such marriage took place during the Revolutionary War. And this deponent further says, that in the spring immediately after such marriage, the said Derick (who had previously been a soldier) again enlisted in the Army at a place called Nine Partners, in this County, and made a campaign as this deponent then, and always understood, against the Indians in the western part of this State; that he was absent on this tour of Military service about ten months, during which the said Margaret, (now his widow) remained at home with her parents- And this deponent further says that he has often heard the said Derick in his life time recite the leading incidents of this Campaign- his sufferings, a skirmish with, and being surrounded by Indians, all which this deponent fully believes, though this deponent does not recollect the name of his immediate commanding Officer with sufficient certainty to enable him to swear to it. And this deponent further says that the said Derick Amerman has been dead many years, that the said Margaret has not since married, but was a widow on the 4th day of July 1836. 
[signature] John Ranous

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 29th day of September 1837.} 
[signature] John Beadle 
A Justice of the peace

 I John Beadle a Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Dutchess and State aforesaid, residing in the Township of Pleasant Valley, Do Certify that I have known the above deponent John Ranous for more than 40 years, and that I have no doubt of the truth of his preceding deposition and I further Certify that
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I well know the said Derick Amerman for many years before his death, that he was always reputed, and believed in his neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, that I also knew his widow the said Margaret, during the life time of her husband and that so far as I know, or believe she has not again married; but was a widow on the 4th day of July 1836. 
Dated September 29th, 1837. 
[signature] John Beadle A Justice of the peace 
& I the said John Beadle further Certify that I not only believe that the aforesaid Margaret was a widow on the 4th of July 1836- But I Believe & have good reason to believe that she is now the widow of the above Named Derick Amerman in testamony [sic] whereof I have hereunto set my hand the 19th day of September 1837 
[signature] John Beadle a Justice of the peace

State of New York County of Dutchess}SS.
 I Henry Traver Clerk of the County of Dutchess aforesaid, Do Certify that John Beadle Esquire whose name is on this sheet three times written, was on the day of the date of such signatures, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Dutchess, residing in the Township of Pleasant Valley duly elected and sworn, and that the three signatures "John Beadle" above and within written are genuine, and in the proper hand writing of the said Justice. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the said County this 2nd day of October in the year 1837. 
[signature] Henry Traver Clerk
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May 10, 1940

BA-J/MCS
Derick Ammerman
W.23440

Mr. Charles P. Schouten
754 Security Building
Minneapolis, Minnesota

Dear Sir:

The data which follow were taken from papers on file in the pension claim, W.23440, based on the military service of Derick Ammerman. The surname is also spelled Amerman, Amberman and Ambleman. 

Derick Ammerman was born at Jamaica, Queens County, New York, date not stated, and he was the son of Cornelius. The name of his mother is not shown. 

Derick Ammerman was enrolled in 1774 as a minuteman in Queens County, New York. He enlisted in 1776 and served at various times until early in 1782, amounting in all, to more that two years, as private with the New York troops under Captains Wright and Pell and Colonels Lasher, Van Cortland and Marinus Willet. 

He lived in Queens County, New York, for a few years after the close of the Revolution when he moved to Dutchess County, New York, and lived there until his death, February 27, 1813.

This soldier married January 4, 1781, at the house of Isaac Baldwin five miles east of Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, New York, Margaret Ranous who was born August 24, 1762, and was the daughter of James Ranous, a Frenchman. The name of Margaret's mother is not shown. 

As the widow of Derick Ammerman, Margaret Ammerman was allowed pension on her application executed September 23, 1837, at which time she was a resident of New York City and in that year she stated that she had lived in that city most of the time for the last twenty years.
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Derick and Margaret Ammerman had seven children but their names were not given. 

John Ranous, brother of the widow, was living in Pleasant Valley, Dutchess County, New York, in 1837, "aged seventy-two years and upwards." There is no claim for pension on file on account of Revolutionary War services of John Ranous and there are no further data on file relative to the parents, brothers or sisters of Margaret Ammerman. 

One Richard Amerman acted as witness for the widow in 1847, his relation not shown. 

In the papers of this pension claim it was stated that Cornelius Ammerman, the father of Derick, served in the Revolution. No claim for pension was ever made to the United States on account of Cornelius Ammerman's service in the Revolution. 

Very truly yours

A.D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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[Handwriting on this folded page is split in half and comes together when folded]

Oct 20/94 Hist to Mrs Augusta Buckley, 329 Buffalo St. Dunkirk, NY
1908 Apr. 17 Hist. to Mrs J.W. Atwood V.L.M.
1918 Oct.7 Hist. to Mrs. D.A. Rankin.
1925 - March 2 Tombstone data to Major R.P. Harbold Q.M.G. Ans.
1927 July 1st hist to C. R. Ammerman M.C.S.
1936. Jan. 7, hist. to Mrs. R. L. Berry N.C.S.
1936 Jan. 16. Photos mailed to Chas. Ammerman & acct. Mgr. ntfd. A.D.Y.
193_ [illegible] Mch. 7 Photos to Chas. Ammerman. M.N.F.
1940 May 10 hist. to Mr. Chas. P. Schouten N.C.S.

Rev
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 23.440
Margaret Ammerman
Wid of
Derick Ammerman
Priv Rev War
Act: July 4th 1836
Index:-- Vol. A, Page 12
[Arrangement of 1870]
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New York 1771
Margaret Ammerman
(Widow of Derick Ammerman)
who died on the 27th Feb. 1813 of N. York City in the State of N. York
who was a Private in the [left blank] commanded by Captain [left blank] of the Regt. commanded by Col. Willett in the N. York line for 17 months & 10 days

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 57 Dollars 16 2/3 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 10th day of 1838 and sent to Hon. O. Hoffman, H.R.

Arrears to the 4th of Sep. '37   376.48
Semi-annual allowance ending 4 March 38} 28.88
$405.36

{Revolutionary Claim Act July 4, 1836 Section the 3-}

Recorded by D. Brown Clerk
Book A, Vol. 2 - Page 103
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V Suspended.
see let. to N. Dean, Dec. 9, 1837
see let. to Hon. Ogden Hoffman, January 17, 1838.
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2778
Margaret Ammerman widow of Derick N.Y.
Rolls
May 7 - 78 - 9 mo disch Feby 16. '79 - 9.10
Vol. 2.2 -  pri 1 Mo Decr 1781
8 mo. [underlined]
17.10 [underlined]
Admitted Private 17 mo & 10 days
Hon O. Hoffmann
House Reps
MS
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State of New York. Queens County. ss Samuel Mills of Jamaica, County and State aforesaid, a Revolutionary Pensioner, aged nearly Eighty years, being duly sworn according to Law, deposes and says that he knew Derick Amerman (or Amberman) named in the annexed declaration of his Widow, from the period of his early youth;- that they were both born in the neighborhood where this deponent now resides;- that the said Derick before the breaking out of hostilities, and as early as the year 1774, enrolled himself in a Company of Minutemen raised in Queens County, and was the second man who put his name down:- 

That afterwards this deponent and the said Derick both enlisted in the Revolutionary Army in the year 1776, and both continued in the Army, (except during some short intervals) till 1782, the said Derick serving as a Soldier during this period, as this deponent knows of his own knowledge, more than two years - That the said Derick during a part of the year 1776 was a private in the 1st New York Regiment, Commanded by Col. Lasher;- afterwards in 1777, 1778, and 1779 the said Derick was a private in the 2nd New York Regiment Commanded by Col. Van Cortlandt, and belonged a part of the time to Capt. Wright's Company, and at another time to Capt. Pell's Company - And this deponent further says that the said Derick and himself, having been born and brought up near the Ocean, were both expert Watermen, and were selected from Col. Van Cortlandt's Regiment to man (with others) the barge of the Armed Ship Montgomery, which barge was employed in carrying despatches up the Hudson River, and was generally stationed at Poughkeepsie-

And this deponent further says that he was present at the marriage of the said Derick Amerman, to Margaret Ranous, now the widow of the said Derick;- that such marriage was solemnized before Esquire Newcomb, then a Justice of the Peace, at the house of Isaac Baldwin, five miles east of Poughkeepsie, and took place in the month of January 1781. 

And this deponent further says that soon after such marriage the said Derick again enlisted in the Revolutionary Army, at a place called "Nine Partners" in Dutchess County;- that one David Flynn enlisted at the same time, and both made a Campaign under the Command of Col. Willett in the western part of this State, during which in a skirmish with the Indians, the said Flynn was mortally wounded - That the Said Derick was absent on this Campaign about Ten months - This deponent is unable to state the name of his Captain, though of the fact of such service he is absolutely certain - 

And this deponent further says, that after the Conclusion of the War, the said Derick and himself, with their respective wives and families, returned in Company to the place of their birth, in Queens County aforesaid, after an absence of more than Seven years.- that they lived near each other for some time, when the said Derick removed with his family to Dutchess County, and as this
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deponent always understood, there died many years since - And this deponent further saith that his memory has always been remarkably good, and from the circumstance of the early and long Continued intimacy subsisting between himself and the said Derick, he is enabled to point out and prove the Revolutionary Services of the said Derick Amerman with almost as much minuteness, as he could recite his own -
[signature] Samuel Mills

Sworn before me the 15th day of September 1837...}
[signature] David Lamberson - one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County of Queens

I David Lamberson one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Queens and that aforesaid Do Certify that I have known the said Samuel Mills, this above deponent, from my early youth and that in my opinion the above deposition is in all respects entitled to belief-
Dated Jamaica Sept. 15th- 1837
[signature] David Lamberson

State of New York
Queens County } SS.
I John Simonson Clerk of the County of Queens aforesaid Do Certify that David Lamberson Esquire whose name is above twice subscribed, was on the day of the date of such signatures one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas, in and for the said County of Queens duly
Commissioned and sworn, and that the two signatures "David Lamberson" above written are both genuine, and in the proper hand writing of the said Judge-
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the said County this sixteenth day of September in the year 1837
[signature] John Simonson Clerk
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State of New York
Dutchess County... } ss:
John H. Newcomb of the Township of Pleasant Valley, County and State aforesaid, aged Forty One years and upwards, being duly Sworn deposes and Says, that he is the Grandson of Zaccheus Newcomb, formerly of Dutchess County, long since deceased- That this deponent always understood and believes that the Said Zeccheus Newcomb, was in his life time, and during the Revolutionary War, a Justice of the Peace in and for the Said County;- that all the Sons of the Said Zaccheus, father, and uncles of this deponent are dead. And this deponent further Says that according to the best of his knowledge and belief the Official Registers of his Grandfather the Said Zaccheus are not now in existence, the same, as this deponent supposes having been lost or destroyed. 
[signature] John H. Newcomb

Sworn before me this 26th day of January 1838 }
[signature] Martin W. Collins

I Martin W. Collins a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, Do Certify, that I have known the above deponent John H. Newcomb for many years, that he is a person of good character, of undoubted truth and veracity, and as such his deposition is entitled to full faith and credit-
Dated January 26th 1838-
[signature] Martin W. Collins
Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
Dutchess County }

I Daniel W. Beadle Clerk of the County of Dutchess aforesaid, Do certify that Martin W. Collins Esquire whose name is on this sheet twice subscribed, was on the day of the date of Such Signatures a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Dutchess, residing in the
Township of Pleasant Valley; and that the two signatures "Martin W. Collins" within written are genuine, and in the proper hand writing of the said Justice-
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of the said County this thirtieth day of January in the year One thousand eight hundred and thirty eight - 
[signature] Daniel. W. Beadle Clerk

[Illegible seal affixed next to the Clerk's certification]
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State of New York
Dutchess County  ⎬ SS:

Mary Velie the wife of Minard Velie, of the Township of Stanford, County and State aforesaid, aged sixty two years and upwards; being duly sworn deposeth and saith that she well remembers the marriage of Derick Amerman to Margaret Ramous; that such marriage took place during the Revolutionary War, and was solemnized before Esquire Newcomb, in the house of this deponents father, Isaac Baldwin, about five miles east of Poughkeepsie; that the said Derick has been dead many years, but his widow the said Margaret, as this deponent believe, still survives. 
[signature] Mary Velie

Sworn to before me this 29th day of September 1837 }
[signature] John Beadle Justice of the peace--

I John Beadle a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Dutchess in the State aforesaid residing in the Township of Pleasant Valley, Do Certify that in my opinion the above deposition is entitled to full faith and credit-
Dated September 29th 1837. 
[signature] John Beadle 
A Justice of the peace 
& My Reasons for the above mentioned belief is that I have been acquainted with the above Named Mary Velie upwards of forty years she is of a Respectable family & a person of Undoubted truth & veracity 
[signature] John Beadle a Justice of the peace
Dated September 29th 1837
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State of New York
County of Dutchess } SS.
I Henry Traver Clerk of the County of Dutchess aforesaid, Do Certify that John Beadle Esquire whose name is on this sheet three times written, was on the day of the date of such signatures, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Dutchess, residing in the Township of Pleasant Valley, duly elected and sworn, and that the three signatures "John Beadle" within written are genuine, and in the proper hand writing of the said Justice-
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the said County this 3d day of October in the year 1837.
[signature] Henry Traver Clerk
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State of New York
City and County of New York} ss

Nicholas Dean of the said City and County, and formerly Clerk thereof, being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that he is aged Forty Six years and upwards; -- That he was well acquainted with Derick Amerman (or Dirck Amberman as sometimes written) in his life time, who was the husband of the within declarant, that he knew him as early as the year 1804; -- That he is also well acquainted with the declarant Margaret Amerman, now the widow of the said Derick, and has known her for Thirty years and upwards; -- that this deponent knew them as husband and wife, and also knows their surviving children. That this deponent attended the funeral of the said Derick in the month of February 1813, and knows of his own knowledge that his widow has not since married. And this deponent further says, that the said Derick was in his life time always considered and believed in his neighborhood to have served as a Soldier during most of the War of the Revolution, and this deponent has often heard him speak of Such Services. And this deponent further says, that long before the passage of any Law granting Pensions to the widow of deceased Revolutionary Soldiers, and when no conceivable motive could have existed for misrepresentation, he has frequently heard the said Margaret Amerman say that her husband the Said Derick, served as a soldier in the Revolutionary Army, after their marriage, and was absent upon duty nearly a year.  And this deponent further says, that from his intimate acquaintance with, and personal knowledge of the Said Margaret the within declarant, he should repose the most entire belief in the truth of her statement, and has no doubt that the same is, in all essential particulars, Strictly true.
[signature] N. Dean

Sworn before me this 4th day of October 1837 }
the word "October" written on an erasure.
[signature] Jno T Irving
A Justice of Com Pleas for the City & County of N York
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I John T. Irving first Judge of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York, Do Certify that I have known the written deponent Nicholas Dean for many years, and that I have no doubt of the truth of the within Deposition - 
Dated New York October 4th 1837
"the word "October" written on an erasure-
[signature] Jno T Irving 
First Justice of the Court of Com Pleas for the City and County of N York

City and County of New York: SS:-
I Thomas Jeremiah, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York, and also Clerk of the Said City and County, Do Certify that John T Irving Esquire who name is on this sheet twice subscribed, was on the day of the date of such Signatures First Judge of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York; and that the said two signatures "Jno. T. Irving" are both genuine and in the proper hand writing of the Said Judge.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the Seal of the Court and County this fourth day of October.....1837
[signature] Thos Jeremiah Clerk

[Illegible seal next to the Clerk's certification with the remnants of ribbons affixed underneath]
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Hon O. Hoffman
H. R.
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[Duplicate of page 31, which is where this page would correctly be placed, as it is the continuation of page 30]

date of Such Signatures Associate Judge of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York duly Commissioned and Sworn, and that the said two signatures "M Ulshoeffer" above written are both genuine, and in the proper hand writing of the said Judge.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto signed my name, and affixed the seal of the said Court and County this thirty first day of January in the year One thousand eight hundred and thirty eight.
[signature] Joseph Hoxie Clerk

[Illegible seal next to the Clerk's certification with the remnants of ribbons affixed underneath]
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State of New York
City and County of New York } ss

Nicholas Dean of the said City & County being duly sworn says that he was born and brought up in Dutchess County in the State aforesaid, within four miles of the farm where Zaccheus Newcomb Esq. (spoken of in the annexed affirmation of Margaret Amerman) lived for many years preceding his death. That the said Zaccheus died before this deponents recollection but that he knew the sons of the Said Zaccheus named Christian, Thomas, John and Zaccheus (one other named Daniel he did not know). That Zaccheus the son was bred to the Medical profession, and was during the whole of this deponents youth the family Physician of this deponents father. That this deponent family, and the said Newcomb family were upon terms of great intimacy for many years, and this deponent always understood and has no doubt the Said Zaccheus the elder was for a long time about the period of the Revolutionary War, a Justice of the Peace. And this deponent further says that all the sons of the said Zaccheus the elder are dead, and that their descendants are scattered over a large extent of Country, Some of them residing in the Northern or Western part of this State, and others of them in different parts of Dutchess County. And this deponent further says that John H. Newcomb (the grandson of the said Zaccheus the elder) whose deposition is hereunto annexed now occupies the farm and homestead of the said Newcomb family, and is the eldest son of Thomas Newcomb who was the acting Executor of the last Will and Testament of the Said Zaccheus Newcomb Esquire, and as such most likely to have the Custody and care of old family papers and Records.  That this deponent has sought to discover if any of the official Registers of the Said Zaccheus Newcomb Justice of the Peace have been preserved and are in existence, and that such enquiry has resulted in the Conviction, that if he kept any, they are all lost or destroyed. And this deponent further says that records of Marriages in this State cannot be found in Churches unless the parties were married by the Minister or Elder having the pastoral charge of such church for the time being, and that a marriage contracted before a Civil Magistrate could not be made matter of Record in a Church by any mode within this deponents knowledge. And this deponent further says, that he never heard of, nor does he believe there exists within the State of
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New York any such proceeding as a Town record of Marriages; -- that the first Legislative provision in this State, with which this deponent is acquainted on the Subject of recording marriages, took effect on the 1st day of January 1830, by which a Record was authorized to be made, under certain circumstances in the Office of Clerks of Counties.  And this deponent further says, that the application of the Said Margaret Amerman for a Pension, and the papers thereto annexed, now at the Pension Office in Washington, as also the supplemental papers now furnished, have been drawn up and prepared by this deponent; -- that great care and diligence have been used to furnish the best evidence of which the case is susceptible, and this deponent from all the enquiries made, and the investigation which he has necessarily been compelled to give the subject, is fully convinced that no better affirmative testimony of the date of the marriage can be procured, and that he this deponent fully and entirely believes that the marriage of the Said Derick Amerman and Margaret Ranous (now the widow of the Said Derick) took place in the month of January 1781, and that the Same was in all respects a legal and valid marriage.
[signature] N. Dean

Sworn before me this 31st January 1838
[signature] M. Ulshoeffer
a JCP

I certify that I have known the above deponent for many years and Should repose entire Confidence and belief in any Statement he makes under Oath.  Dated January 31st 1838.
[signature] M. Ulshoeffer
a JCP

City and County of New York SS:  I Joseph Hoxie Clerk of the City and County of New York and also Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the Said city and County, Do Certify that Michael Ulshoeffer Esquire whose name appears twice Subscribed on this sheet, was on the day of the
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[Duplicate of page 28. This (page 31) is the correct placement of this page, as it is the continuation of page 30]

date of Such Signatures Associate Judge of the Court of Common Pleas for the City and County of New York duly Commissioned and Sworn, and that the said two signatures "M Ulshoeffer" above written are both genuine, and in the proper hand writing of the said Judge.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto signed my name, and affixed the seal of the said Court and County this thirty first day of January in the year One thousand eight hundred and thirty eight.
[signature] Joseph Hoxie Clerk

[Illegible seal next to the Clerk's certification with the remnants of ribbons affixed underneath]
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Margaret Amerman
Act July 4th 1836
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State of New York
Secretary's Office

I certify that it appears by the Military Register in this office that on the 7th day of May 1778 Dirck Amberman enlisted as a Soldier in the Second New York Regiment Captain Pell's Company for nine Months and was discharged February 16, 1779 (figure "8" written on Erasure)

Arch'd Campbell
Dep Sec of State

Albany March 20, 1847
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In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bbearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :

30th Nov 1781 Derick Amberman priv. 17 | 1 | 4
30th Nov 178[illegible] Dirk Ammerman Do" 17 | 3 | 1
31st Dec 1781 Dirick Amberman Do" 2 | 13 | 4
[the preceding figures underlined, with totals written underneath]
36 | 17 | 9

STATE OF NEW YORK
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, 20th March 1847 }
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 1 & 2 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :

First - under Capt Anth'y Welp in Col. Marenus [Marinus] Willett Reg't
Second " " Hen'y Pawling " " Albert Pawling "
Third " " Anth'y Welp " " Marenus Willett "

[signature] Philip Phelps
Dep Comp'r
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State of New York
County of Dutchess, ss. }

Margaret Ammerman of Pleasant Valley, County and State aforesaid, being first duly affirmed, according to law, deposes and says That she is a pensioner of the United States, on account of services performed in the War of the Revolution by her husband Derick Ammerman, deceased; and that she is informed and believes she is entitled to an increase of pension: in support of which claim she refers the Pension department to the proofs on file, in connection with such as may be furnished by her Agent, William Valentine, of Albany, New York.
Margaret x Amerman ["her" and "mark" written above and below the "X" mark designating her signature]

Subscribed, and affirmed to before me, this fifteenth day of march March 1847. }
[signature] Saml A McCord. Justice of The Peace
[illegible notation] 
[signature] Richard Amerman

I Samuel A McCord Justice of the Peace, do hereby certify that Margaret Ammerman, is the identical person above named, and her statement is entitled to full faith and credit.
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[Printed form with handwritten answers]    

State of New York, County of Dutchess, ss.

I, Joseph T. Adriance, Clerk of the County of Dutchess, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That Samuel A McCord, whose name is subscribed to attestation of the annexed affidavit was at the time when the same was taken a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, dwelling in the said County, in the town of Pleasant Valley duly elected and sworn.

AND FURTHER, That I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said certificate is genuine.

IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my Hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County, this twenty sixth day of March A.D. 1847.
[signature] Jos. T. Adriance Clerk.

[stamped seal of the county next to the clerk's certification]
COMMON PLEAS * SEAL OF DUTCHESS COUNTY
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Payment to be made at New York
by Jno. Lorillard Esq.
Agent for paying Pensioners, in the Agency of New York

Increased
Sec'y - 9 mo. 1.0.8
Comp'r 13 m 24 ~
$77.10 deduct what has been paid

Recorded in the Pension Office, in Book A, Vol. 2 Page 103 by
[signature] D. Brown, Clerk 

W. Valentine Esq'r
Albany, NY
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[Printed form with handwritten answers]    

WAR DEPARTMENT.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.

I certify that, in conformity with the 3d section of the law of the United States, of the 4th July, 1836, Margaret Ammerman of the State of New York widow of Derick Ammerman who was a Private in the War of the Revolution

is entitled to receive Fifty seven dollars and Seventy six cents per annum, during the time she may remain unmarried, commencing on the 4th of march, 1831, and payable semi=annually on the 4th of March and 4th of September. 

Given at the War Office of the United States, this tenth day of February one thousand eight hundred and thirty=eight.
[signature] J. R. Poinsett
Secretary of War.

[Illegible seal affixed on page]
Examined and Countersigned }

[signature] J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions.
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Letter
J. L. Edwards

[notations of several arithmetic calculations]
72
18
2
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92

92
2090
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18280
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30/41.4
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1138
910
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22.18
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[written diagonally in different hand]
Omit

Albany, N.Y., March 23, 1847

Sir,
Enclosed is the application of Margaret Amerman, widow of Derick Amerman, deceased, for an increase of the pension under the Act of July 4, 1836, in support of which claim, the Department is referred to the papers on file in connection with the Comptrollers certificate herewith forwarded.

I am yours very respectfully,
[signature] Wm. Valentine

J. L. Edwards Esq.
Com'r of Pensions
Washington
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House of Reps
Jan'y 15,, 1838

Dear Sir,

In December last, the Petition & Papers of Margaret Amerman were resubmitted to the office by Nicholas Dean Esq of N York praying that a Pension might be allowed to her- As no answer has been received by him, in answer to his last letter of Dec 12th ult, he presumes that the prayer cannot be granted by the Pension office - I should much regret, that such should be your determination, for it seems to me, after reading the papers, that the date [words crossed out, illegible] the marriage [illegible word overwritten] proved were to the satisfaction of a Court of Law- should you continue, however, to differ with [illegible] opinion, I much beg you to return the original papers to me, that I may present them to the House, and Endeavour to obtain
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some Legislative action in her behalf -
She would be a worthy Recipient of [illegible] Bounty - 
I am, with great respect, very truly yours &c
[signature] Ogden Hoffe 
[last name presumably "Hoffman" cut off/covered by another page]

J. L. Edwards Esq.
Com of Pensions
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New York October 14th.. 1837.

Sir,
Enclosed is an application of Margaret Amerman, Widow of a Revolutionary Soldier, for a Pension under the act of Congress of July 4, 1836. I have taken much trouble to collect the proofs annexed, and hope they may be found sufficient to meet the regulations established by the Department.
When examined, please to address as atfoot. [?]

Respectfully, Sir, Your ob't. Serv't.
[signature] N. Dean
No. 7 Cross St.
New York

James L. Edwards Esquire
Commissioner of Pensions
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Omit-

Dec 14

James L. Edwards Esquire
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington

[tear in middle of page obscures name notation]
Amerman
N.Y. Susp'd

Drb

[Postmark stamped seal]
NEW YORK
DEC 12
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New York December 12th 1837

Sir,

I have received your letter of the 9th instant, relating to the application of Mrs. Margaret Amerman, the widow of a deceased Revolutionary Soldier for a Pension, and am thereby informed that "the date of the marriage should be established by the record of the Church and Town, or by the family register of marriages and births." In the case in question, I am Compelled to say, that I do not believe any record of the Marriage ever existed,- the parties were united before a Magistrate, a mode then, and still, very common in this State;- if such magistrate made an entry in his Register, it was little more than a private memorandum, his Court not being a Court of Record, and his Register and papers descending to his family - Since that remote period (57 years) the Justice, and all his sons (facts within my own knowledge) are dead, and the more distant descendants of his family are scattered over a large extent of Country; - to pursue the inquiry amongst them, I should deem labour lost - These Circumstances were briefly stated in the deposition of the applicant.

In regard to the other mode of proof, that is "by the family register of marriages and births," no such register was ever kept;- Since the receipt of your letter I have conversed with the applicant, and in explanation, I state, that neither the deceased husband, nor his Surviving Widow could write, they were therefore unable to keep the record themselves, and having no property out of which the Widow could hope for endowment, and no pride of ancestry, or family, it was not deemed essential to procure such record to be kept by others - The father
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of the declarant was a Frenchman named "James Ranous"; I knew him in his lifetime,- his English was so imperfect as to be scarcely intelligible, and he was never able to read or write the language, so that he was not likely to have kept a family Register - if he did it is not now in existence - 

The proof of the marriage furnished to the Department is, I have no doubt, the best of which the case is susceptible, being established by the testimony of unimpeachable Witnesses who were present at its solemnization; - indeed, not till within seven years last past, has any Legislative provision been made, by which to authenticate a marriage, and as to the present time no organization of parishes (as in some of the Eastern States) exists here. 

If I were called upon to authenticate my own marriage which took place so lately as 1812, I assure you, Sir, that I could not by possibility do more than has been done in the case under Consideration, namely, to prove it by Witnesses who were present - I therefore hope that the Department will pause before it adopts the rule requiring documentary evidence of marriage in all Cases, particularly as regards the State of New York, - such a course must inevitably shut out many applicants whose case would otherwise be clearly made out, and would moreover impose upon them a rigidness of proof never exacted in our Courts of Law, save only on indictment for Bigamy.

In preparing the papers, which was done by myself, the applicant and her Witnesses, were not together at any time; - they have not since seen each other, have had no opportunity to frame a tale, or prompt each other, as to dates and Circumstances, and when I called upon Mr. Mills (a remarkably intelligent old man) he without the slightest hesitation, and with the utmost ease, fixed the true date of marriage, January 1781, and at the same time gave his reasons for knowing it, which were Conclusive in my mind. Mrs. Velie swears they were married during the Revolutionary War, and her brother John Ranous testifies to the decedent's service in Army, after the marriage, and the credibility of all the Witnesses is Certified to by
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the Magistrate before whom each was examined.-
I regret that the imperfect records of the Department should establish no more than Seventeen months service of the decedent; - he undoubtedly served most of the war in some capacity. His father "Cornelius Amerman" enlisted for "during the war", and it was always understood, that both he and his son were engaged in the service mostly throughout; - the testimony of Mr. Mills forming part of the application would seem to favour this conclusion.

From facts within my own knowledge, I have not the shadow of a doubt of the validity of the claim, and from my sense of right, and respect for my own character, would not for a moment urge it if
not so [missing word due to tear in page]

The applicant has been subsisting entirely on [missing words due to black mark obscuring part of several lines] her descendants for some fifteen years past, - is [obscured] to labour, and can last but a little longer [obscured] is of course most anxious to know her fate, and I [obscured] add nothing material to the proofs now in the Department. 

If the Department would feel the claim strengthened at all by knowing that it is preferred through a chance incapable of practising the slightest deception, I could refer for my standing and Character to Mr. Cambreleng, Mr. Hoffman, and Mr. Curtis, Members of Congress from this City, and to my friend Thomas L. Smith, Register of the Treasury.

In the hope of an early, and final decision, I am respectfully, Sir, your ob't. Serv't.
[signature] N. Dean
No. 7 Cross St.

James L. Edwards Esquire
Commissioner of Pensions
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House of Reps
Jan'y 15, 1838

Dear Sir,

I also further mention [?] [illegible] letter from her bears to which, I most earnestly beg leave to call your attention- The claim of Mrs. Amerman appears to me to be so just, & so abundantly established by sufficient proof, that I cannot doubt that It will be allowed -

If you still adhere to an unfavorable opinion, pray let me know, with your earliest convenience, that the rule of construction may be settled by the House-

Very truly Yours &c
[signature] Og Hoffman

J. L. Edwards Esq.
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House of Reps
Feb'y. 9, 1838

Dear Sir,
You may remember, that in answer to the claim of Mrs. Amerman, heretofore urged by me. for a Pension- the objection was made, that the proof of her marriage was insufficient and that some Evidence must be brought to show, that there now no records of Marriage or that they have been lost or destroyed, before the secondary Evidence could be received. This Evidence, in pursuance of your suggestion, at some trouble, has been procured & I now transmit it to you.-

This I hope may be satisfactory to you, and that the poor widow
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and that, at last, she may receive that justice which I feel she deserves.
Hoping for an early & favorable answer, I am, very truly Yours &c
[signature] Og Hoffmann

J. L. Edwards Esq.
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Letter
to J. S. Edwards, Esq.


[numerical notations]
23. - 4'

76.66
    44
-------
77.10

Rec'd. Apl 1 1847
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Washington City April 1st 1847

Sir
On the 23rd ult. I forwarded the application of Margaret Amerman for an increase of her pension under the Act of July 4th 1836.
Upon the supposition that it will necessessary to return the certificate she now holds, and to save time, I herewith enclose it in order to obtain one at the increased rate.
 I am Yours very respectfully
[signature] Wm. Valentine
of Albany N.Y.

J. L. Edwards Esq.
Com'r of Pensions
Washington
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WAR DEPARTMENT
OFFICE OF THE QUARTERMASTER GENERAL
WASHINGTON

IN REPLY REFER TO QM 293 A-C
(Amerman, Derick)
February 27, 1925.

The Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir:
In order that a headstone may be provided for the grave of the decedent appearing below, The Quartermaster General requests that the correct military service and the spelling of the name be supplied this office from the records of the Pension Bureau:

Derick Amerman, Pvt.
in New York Line.
Rev. War
Died Mar. 4, 1826.

Very truly yours,
[signature] R. P. Harbold
R. P. HARBOLD
Major, Q.M.C.,
Assistant.

[Stamped seal]
U. S. PENSION OFFICE
L 
FEB 28 1925
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CHARLES R. AMMERMAN
CONSULTING ENGINEER
925 CONTINENTAL BANK BUILDING
INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA

STANLEY H. PERHAM
E. F. EDGECOMBE, JR.
ASSOCIATES

July 13, 1927

Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Refer to Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

Gentlemen:
Would like very much to have the full history of the Derick Ammerman and Cornelius Ammerman referred to in your letter of June 29th, copy of which is
attached hereto.
Thanking you, I am,
Very truly,
[signature] C. R. Ammerman

CRA:W

[Stamped seal]
U. S. PENSION OFFICE
JUL 14 1927
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Veterans Administration
Washington
Mr. A. D. Hiller

Dear Sir:
Please send me information relative to Derick Amberman's Revolutionary War services. He lived in Jamaica Long Island or Springfield Long Island and his Last will and Testament was made Mar 19, 1781 and proven April 12, 1784 at New York. His wife's name was Margaret (?) and his children were Daniel;- John;- Cornelius (in the King's lines);- Derick (deceased);- and Sarah.

Family tradition was that Derick Amberman was shot (defending one of the flour mills on Long Island) by the Red-coats.

Thanking you for your kindly consideration I beg to remain
Yours Very truly
[signature] Mrs. R. L. Berry
99 Lexington Ave.
Freeport L. I.
New York

[Stamped seal]
REC'D 
JAN 2 1936
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS. ADM. READER #4
[Time designations around outside of stamp have arrow pointing to 3:15]
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[Stamped seal]
RECEIVED 
MAR 29 1940 
MAIL SUB-DIV.
READER No. 9
VETS. ADM. 
[Time designations around outside of stamp have arrow pointing to 1:15]


Residence, Kenwood 3496 
Office, Main 0434

CHARLES P. SCHOUTEN
SURETY BONDS - GENERAL INSURANCE
754 SECURITY BUILDING, MINNEAPOLIS

Associated with
PIONEER INSURANCE AGENCY, Inc.
Ward F. Sonn, President

Mar. 26, 1940.

Mr. A. D. Hiller
Executive assistant to the administrator,
Veterans Administration,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:-
You were kind enough recently to give me family information on John Stotesbury & Jacob Scouten on whose services in the Revolutionary War, pensions were granted.

May I ask you further indulgence for other information if available. I understand that a pension was granted on the Revolutionary War service of Cornelius Ammerman who served in the 4th Regt. of the New York Line. Derrick a son applied for the pension on his fathers record. Derrick also served.

Also I find Derrick's wife received a pension, but in whose service I am not advised. The wife's name was Margaret Ranous, married Jan. 4 or 9, 1781 in the Twp. of Poughkeepsie, Dutchess Co., N.Y. She was a daughter of James Ranous, "a Frenchman." She was born 8-24-1766 & allowed pension 9/23/1839. Would like all information available as to the parents and 
James of said Margaret Ranous.
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Also would like to learn if any pension ever granted on the services of George Pearsall who served in the 4th Regt. Dutchess Co., Militia. He married Magdalene Shear 1766 in Poquog [Poughquag], Beekman Twp, Dutchess Co., She was daughter of Peter Shear. They lived in Pleasant Valley, Dutchess Co.,

If any pension granted or applied for would like any information available on family of Magdalane Shear - especially the name of the mother.

Appreciating your courtesy, I am Yours very truly,
[signature] Chas. P.  Schouten

Would it be possible to have some one run down the indexes to see if any revolutionary pension were granted on the services of any Scouten, Scouton, Schouten, Scoudens other than the Jacob Referred to herein. I am hunting the parents of my great grand father Stephen Schouten born 1766 and lived in Fishkill, Dutchess Co, NY.
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[Stamped seal]
RECEIVED 
FEB 24 1936
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS. ADM. 
READER # 5
[Time designations around outside of stamp have arrow pointing to "3"]

Rev 1812

CHARLES R. AMMERMAN
CONSULTING ENGINEER
772-4 CENTURY BUILDING
INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA

February 21st, 1936

Veterans Administration,
Washington, D.C. : 13126
a/c
Derick Ammerman W. 23440
Derick Amerman W.C. 21610
BA-J/MMHF:MLB

Attention A.D. Hiller
Executive assistant to the Administrator

Copying fees.

Gentlemen:
I am enclosing herewith money order in the amount of $2.25, the balance required for photostat order, in accordance with your letter of February 19, 1936.
I am very anxious to obtain these photostats at the earliest possible moment.
Very truly yours.
[signature] C. R. Ammerman

[several numeric calculations notated]
25
16
---
15.0
21
-----
4.00

25
13
----
  .75
2.5
-----
3.25

2.25
5.00
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7.25
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W 23440

[Stamped seal]
U. S. PENSIONS OFFICE
A 
APR 11 1908

[Stamped seal]
RECORD DIVISION
APR 13 1908
Page 60

JOHN W. ATWOOD, M. D.
FISHKILL-ON-HUDSON, N.Y.

APR 8 1908

Pension Agent,
Dear Sir,
Can you give me any information concerning a Derrick Amerman who drew a pension from the government for his services in the Rev. War? & whose widow drew it after his death, until her death about sixty or sixty-five years ago.
Will you please give me what information you can
Very truly 
[signature] Mrs. J. W. Atwood
Fishkill on Hudson New York

[Stamped seal]
U. S. PENSION AGENCY
RECEIVED
APR 11 1908
WASHINGTON, D. C.
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Bloomington Ind
April 8th 1882.
To the Secretary of the Interior

I enclose you the commission of Derrick Amerman of the Revolutionary War I understand that a Pension was granted to these men, Mr. Amerman never received his, he died on the fourth of March 1826, his youngest child is still
living and desires to know if she can get what was coming to her father.
Please return this commission and give me the desired information.
Respectfully yours
[signature] Morton C. Hunter

[notation written diagnonally]
[illegible]
returned April 13 1882
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Rev 1-FNE

2417, Lyndale Ave So
Minneapolis Minnesota
Sept 26, 1918

Sir-
Will you please send me a copy of the pension record of Albert Amerman a Rev. soldier from Somerset Co. N Jersey and Derick Amerman a Rev. soldier from New York. o oblige
Mrs D A Rankin
2417 Lyndale Ave So
Minneapolis Minnesota
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If it is not asking too much, will ask for the record of David Amemon Rev. soldier from Somerset Co. New Jersey.
We are working on family history-
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Charles R. Ammerman
712 Century Bldg.
Indianapolis, Ind.

Veterans Admin.

Please furnish above named photostatic copies of 12 pages from Rev. War pension claim W 23440, uncertified.
Derick Ammerman.

Jan. 9, 1936

[signature] C. R. Ammerman

Received payment $3.00
[signature] Ada DeYoung,
Rev. 1812 Wars Section.
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Cash 5.00/00 Rev & 1812 Wars. 

CHARLES R. AMMERMAN
CONSULTING ENGINEER
772-4 CENTURY BUILDING
INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA

January 29, 1936.

Veterans Administration
Washington, D. C.

Attention: A. D. Hiller
Executive Assistant
RE: BA-J/MMHF/ady
Derick Ammerman
W. 23440
12662

Gentlemen:
Yours of the 16th inst., enclosing photostatic copies of 12 pages of the original documents in Revolutionary War claim W. 23440, received.

These photostats were of the original application of the Widow Margaret Amerman.

I would also like photostat copies of the more important documents of the supplementary application filed later.

I would also like photostat copies of the more important documents of the War of 1812 Pension Application of Derrick Amerman who enlisted in the War of 1812 at Fishkill, Dutchess Co., in 1813 and died in Amboy, Illinois; also the more important documents in the application of his widow Sylvinia Hovey Amerman.

I am enclosing $5.00 to cover the cost of these photostats ["copies" interlined]. I understand that this should cover the cost of 20 photostats, and believe this will be sufficient for the more important documents of these three items.

Thanking you for the courtesy extended me by the department upon my recent visit to Washington, I am,
Sincerely yours,
[signature] C. R. Ammerman
Charles Richard Ammerman

add
5.00 Cash

[Stamped seal]
RECEIVED 
JAN 31 1936 
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS ADM
READER # 12
[Time designations around outside of stamp have arrow pointing to 3:45]

[Stamped seal]
No enclosure when opened in
Mail [illegible] Div. R. & W. Division
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[Printed form with handwritten answers]    

information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. 
Derick Ammerman W. F. 23440, name also spelled Amerman and Amberman

Dates of Enlistment or Appointment: |
Length of Service: |
Rank: |
Officers Under Whom Service Was Rendered: Captain. | Colonel. | 
State. 
1774 | - | Minute Man | 
1776 |  | Pvt. | | [Col] Lasher | N.Y.
1777, 1778, 1779 | | Pvt. | [Capt] Wright, Pell | [Col] Van Cortland | N.Y.
1781 | 10 mos. | | [Col] Marinus Willet
served more than 2 years

Battles engaged in:
Residence of soldier at enlistment:
Date of application for pension: Sept. 23, 1837 Her cl. was at.
Residence at date of application: New York City
Age at date of application: She was born Aug 24, 1762
Remarks: Soldier Son of Cornelius Ammerman was born at Jamaica, Queens Co., N.Y. date not estab'd. He married Margaret, daughter of James Ranous (a Frenchman) in Twp. of Poughkeepsie, Dutchess Co. N.Y. Jan'y 4, 1781. There were seven children, the eldest a daughter no names estab'd. He died in Dutchess Co. N.Y. Feby 27, 1813. 

Very respectfully,
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COPY
In reply refer to Rev. & 1812 Wars Section W.C.S.

3-1865
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF PENSIONS
Washington
June 29, 1927

C. R. Ammerman
925 Continental Bank Bldg.
Indianapolis, Ind.

Sir:
I have to advise you that the only soldier by the name of Derick Ammerman (searched under all spellings of the name) that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this bureau, was the son of Cornelius and was born at Jamaica, Queens County, New York, date not given. He served with the New York troops during the Revolution. He married in Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, New York, January 4, 1781, Margaret the daughter of James Ranous. He died in Dutchess County, New York, February 27, 1813. His widow, Margaret, was living in New York City when she applied for pension in 1837.

If this is the Derick Ammerman in whom you are interested the full history will be sent you upon request.

Respectfully,
(Signed) Winfield Scott
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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January 7, 1936

BA/J/MCS
Derick Ammerman, W. 23440

Mrs. R. L. Berry
99 Lexington Avenue
Freeport, L.I.
New York

Dear Madam:

Reference is made your request for information in regard to Derick Ammerman, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.

The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, W. 23440, based upon the Revolutionary War service of Derick Ammerman (also spelled Amerman, Amberman and Ambleman), the only soldier of that name that is found in the Revolutionary War records of this office.

This soldier was born at Jamaica, Queens County, New York, date not stated, and he was the son of Cornelius.

In 1774 he was enrolled as a minuteman in Queens County, New York. He enlisted in 1776 and served at various times until early in 1782, amounting in all to more than two years, as private with the New York troops under Captain Wright and Pell and Colonels Lasher, Van Cortland and Marius Willett.

He lived in Queens County, New York, for a few years after the close of the Revolution when he moved to Dutchess County, New York, and lived there until his death, February 27, 1813.

This soldier married January 4, 1781, at the house of Isaac Baldwin five miles east of Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, New York, Margaret Ranous who was born August 24, 1762, and was the daughter of James Ranous, a Frenchman. The name of his m. not shown.
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As the widow of Derick Ammerman, said Margaret was allowed a pension on her application executed September 23, 1837, at which time she was a resident of New York City and in that year she stated that she had lived in that city most of the time for the last twenty years.

Derick and Margaret Ammerman had seven children but their names were not given.

John Ranous, brother of the widow, was living in Pleasant Valley, Dutchess County, New York, in 1837, aged seventy-two years and upwards.

One Richard Ammerman acted as witness for the widow in 1847, his relation to her not shown.

In the papers of this pension claim it was stated that Cornelius Ammerman, the father of Derick, served in the Revolution, but a claim for pension was never made to the United States on account of his service.

Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section    W.C.S.

July 15, 1927

Mr. Charles R. Ammerman
925 Continental Bank Bldg.
Indianapolis, Ind.

Sir:
I have to advise you that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 23440, that Derick Ammerman (also spelled Amerman, Amberman and Ambleman) was born at Jamaica, Queens County, New York, date not stated, and he was the son of Cornelius.

In 1774 he was enrolled as a minute-man in Queens County, New York. He enlisted in 1776 and served at various times until early in 1782, amounting in all to more than two years, as a private with the New York troops under Captains Wright and Pell and Colonels Lasher, Van Cortland and Marius Willett.

He married January 4, 1781, in the Township of Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, New York, Margaret Ranous, who was the daughter of James Ranous, a Frenchman, and she was born August 24, 1762.

Derick Ammerman died February 27, 1813, in Dutchess County, New York.

His widow, Margaret, was allowed pension on her application executed September 23, 1837, at which time she was a resident of New York City.
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Derick and Margaret Ammerman had seven children but none of their names were given. The eldest was a girl.

In the papers of the pension claim of Derick Ammerman, it was stated that his father, Cornelius, served in the Revolution, but there is no record of a claim for pension or bounty land having been made on account of the service of Cornelius Ammerman.

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section W.C.S.

June 29, 1927

C. R. Ammerman
925 Continental Bank Bldg.
Indianapolis, Ind.

Sir:

I have to advise you that the only soldier by the name of Derick Ammerman (searched under all spellings of the name) that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this bureau, was the son of Cornelius and was born at Jamaica, Queens County, New York, date not given. He served with the New York troops during the Revolution. He married in Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, New York, January 4, 1781, Margaret the daughter of James Ranous. He died in Dutchess County, New York, February 27, 1813. His widow, Margaret, was living in New York City when she applied for pension in 1837.

If this is the Derick Ammerman in whom you are interested, the full history will be sent you upon request.

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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[typed letter]

Rev. and 1812 War Section AWF.

March 2, 1925

R. P. Harbold, Major, Q. M. C.,
Office of the Q. M. General,
Washington, D. C.

Sir:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 23440, it appears that Derick Ammerman (also spelled Amerman, Amberman and Ambleman) was born at Jamaica, Queens County, New York, date not stated.

He was a Minute Man in 1774, no details stated. 

He served from 1776 at various times as a private under Captains Wright and Pell, Colonels Lasher, Van Cortland and Marinus Willett in the New York Troops until 1781, amounting in all to more than two years.

Pension was allowed his widow Margaret, on account of above services. Soldier died February 27, 1813 in Dutchess County, New York.

Respectfully,
Commissioner.

[handwritten]
Tombstone data
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February 19, 1936

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Mr. Charles R. Ammerman
772-4 Century Building
Indianapolis, Indiana

Derick Ammerman, W. 23440
Derick Amerman, W.C.21610
BA-J/MMHF:MLB

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request photostatic copies of papers on file in Revolutionary War claim for pension, W. 23440, based upon service of Derick Ammerman in the Revolutionary War, and of those on file in the War of 1812 claim for pension based upon service of Derick Ammerman.

The number of pages to be copied in the Revolutionary War claims noted above, exclusive of the number of pages which were copied for you January 19, 1936, is nineteen. The number to be copied in the War of 1812 claims of the soldier, Derick Amerman, and his widow, Sylvinia, W. C. 21610, is thirteen. The cost for each page is twenty-five cents, making the total cost $7.25.

Your remittance, January 29, was $5.00. Please remit additional amount of $2.25 by money order drawn to the order of the Treasurer of the United States and the copies will be made and mailed to you as soon as they can be prepared.

It is regretted that your request could not have been taken up for consideration at an earlier date.

Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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January 16, 1936

Mr. Charles R. Ammerman
772 Century Building
Indianapolis, Indiana

BA-J/MMHF/ady
Derick Ammerman
W.23440

Dear Sir:

In accordance with your request, you are furnished herewith photostatic copies of twelve pages of original documents on file in Revolutionary War claim for pension, W. 23440, based upon service of Derick Ammerman.

Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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BA-J/ady
Rev. & 1812 No. 301

Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

January 9, 1936.
Navy-970

-NOT TO BE CERTIFIED-

Rev. War claim of Derick Ammerman,
File No. W. 23440.

Actual 1 of each page
$3.00 .......... 12 pages

Kindly leave margin of 1 ½ in. at top of each page and return papers in folder with corresponding name and number. The word "omit" written in pencil on those pages which are not to be copied.

Chief, Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

[handwritten across page to describe the 12 pages copied]
included the pages in widow's appl. dated Sept 23, 1837; her sworn affid. & court seal. 4 pages
Samuel Mills' affid. Sep 15 '37, 2 p-
Mary Velie's affid. Sep 29, 1837 & court seal - 2 p
John Ranous' affid. & John Readle, J. P. 2 p
Nicholas Dean's affid. Oct 4, 1837 & court seal 2 p
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                                                               May 9, 1940
Mr. Charles P. Schouten                         
754 Security Building                               
Minneapolis, Minnesota.                          

BA-J/ILL
Derick Ammerman
W. 23440

Dear Sir: Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records if Cornelius Ammerman and his son, Derrick, who married Margaret Ranous, the daughter of James Ranous, all of Dutchess County, New York, also, information in regard to said James Ranous, George Pearsall, Peter Shear whose daughter married George Pearsall in 1766 in Dutchess County, New York, and any other soldier with the surname Scouten of Dutchess County, New York, other than Jacob whose record was furnished you from pension claim, S. 22495. You state further that you desire to locate the parents of your ancestor, Stephen Schouten, who was born in 1766 and lived in Fishkill, New York.
     A search of the Revolutionary War records of this office has been made in your behalf and no claim for pension or bounty land found based upon service of the Peter Shear cited by you, nor of a Cornelius Ammerman, James Ramous, or George Pearsall; no record has been  found of a soldier with the surname Schouten who was old enough to have been the father of the Stephen  who was born in 1766. Various  spellings of these surnames were used in the search of the records.
     The record of Derick Ammerman is furnished herewith as found in pension claim, W. 23440.

Very truly yours,
A.D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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                                                March 9, 1936.
Charles R. Ammerman
772-4 Century Building
Indianapolis, Indiana.                   

BA-J/ILL
DERICK AMMERMAN
W. 23440                                    

Dear Sir:
     In accordance with your request, you are furnished herewith photostatic copies of sixteen pages of originals thereof on file in Revolutionary War pension, W. 23440, based upon service of Derick Ammerman, and photostatic copies of thirteen pages of originals thereof in War of 1812 claim for pension, W.C. 21610, based upon service of Derick Amerman.

Very truly yours,
G. H. Sweet, 
Acting Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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BA-J/ILL
Rev. & 1812
No. 308


Rev. & 1812 Wars Section
March 2, 1936
Navy - Br. 970

Rev. War claim for pension of Derick Ammerman
W. 23440

Actual 1 of each page
16 pages
$4.00

Kindly leave margin of 1 ½ inch at top of each page and return papers in each case in folder with corresponding name and number.

Chief, Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

[handwritten across page to describe the copied pages]
Ordered by Chas. R. Ammerman (additional pages to add to the 12 pages he ordered Jan. 16, 1936: 
Letter from N. Dean to Jas. L. Edwards dated Dec 12, 1837 - 3 p
Widow's appl. dated Jan 31, 1838 on [illegible] & including page which begins "For the city and county of New York" & ends with "Joseph Hoxie, Clk" 3 pages
Affid. of John H. Newcomb Jan 26, 1838 & revers side - 2 p
Affid. of Nicholas Dean, Jan 31, 1838, both sides of sheet & continuing with page "date of such signatures associate Judge etc."  3 p
Widow's appl. for increase Mch 15, 1847 - 1 page. The court seal was glued in reverse side not copied, its date Mch 20, 1847
Office of N.Y. Sec. of State Arch Campbell dated Mch 20, 1847 Service of Sol. - 1 p
New York State report - 1 p
2 ctf jackets both 1771 - on for $57.76 2/3, the other $77 - 2 p