Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 18457, Elisha Hubbard, Conn. Continental
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Conn. 
Continental

Hubbard, Elisha
S. 18457

Carded
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6315
Connecticut
Elisha Hubbard
of Middltown in the State of Cnnt
who was a  Sergeant in the Company commanded by Captain Whiting of the Regt commanded by Col. Webb in the Connt line for 2 years - & Continental

Inscribed on the Roll on Connt at the rate of 120 Dollars 00 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 28th day of Feb -  1833 and sent to Hon (?) L Starr. ouse of Reps - 

Arrears to 4th of Sept 1832               $180.00
Sem-anl.  allowance ending  (?) 1833 -    60.00
                                                           $24000

{Revolutionary Claim, }
{Act June 7, 1832.}

Recorded by E D. Bullock Clerk
Book D  Vol. 3 -   Page 47

Dead
Settes to Hand    S. D. Hubbard
(?) 3rd Auditor          2 March 1847
Let. to J.  H. Noyes
July 6- '47
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6.315
Connecticut - 

Elisha Hubbard   decd
of      in the State of     who was a wagon Company Sgt. commanded by     in      Conn & Continental Revolution

Inscribed on the Roll of Hartford at the rate of 285 Dollars     Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. Ending 28 Jany 1837

Certificate of Pension issued the 7 day of June 1832 and Sent to 
J. M. Thayer
Presd.

Arrears to the 4th of 
Semi-anl. allowance ending
Increased from $120.

{Revolutionary Claim, }
{ Act June 7, 1932}
Recorded by R. McRae Clerk, 
Book    Vol. 3    Page 19
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Certificate of Death and Heirship.

State of Connecticut}
County of Middletown    } ss:  Probate Office, Middletown April 29th 1852.

It is hereby certified, that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me, Judge of the Court of Probate in and for the District of Middletown in the County aforesaid, that Elisha Hubbard late of Middletown in said County, who was a Pensioner under the Act of Congress of 7th of June 1832 at one hundred & twenty dollars per annum died in said County,  on the 28th day of January in the year one thousand eight hundred and Thirty seven  leaving surviving the folowing named children only, viz:

Elisha Hubbard, Martha Hubbard, Widow, Rebecca Witmon wife of Chauncy Witmon, Ann Phillips wife of Augustus Phillip Sarah L. Hubbard wife of Jonah M. Hubbard, Phebe Hall wife of Seth J. Hall, David Hubbard David Hubbard and Mary Hubbard - The said David Hubbard is absent from the state & not been heard from for 14 years, is believed to be dead leaving no children and that the above named Persons are the only children of the said Elisha Hubbard who are now living.

I further certify, that Chauncy Witmon of raid Middletown has been duly appointed and qualified as Administrator of the estate  of the said Elisha Hubbard deceased.

In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my Seal of Office, this twenty ninth day of April one thousand eight hundred and fifty two.

Noah A. Phelps Judge of 2nd Court of Probate{
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5303

BRIEF in the case of Elisha Hubbard of Middletown in the State of Connt
(Act 7th June 1832.)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?  Court of Probate
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he?  78 years - 
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period.  17 Mar In 1777   Duration of Service   3 years   Rank.  As a Srg   Name of General and field Officers Col J. B. Webb's Reg Capt Whiting
Period. Summer 1780  Duration of Service.  3 months  Rank Srg Major  Name of General and Field Officers Col Richards Reg - State
Period.  1776   Duration of Service.  6 months  Rank ____  Names of General Field Officers Col Bradley Co

5. In what battles was he engaged?  none shared
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service?  not stated
7.Is his statement supported y living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the roll?  1st term by one Witness --and papers to evidence on file in the Pension Office  - years 1819 and 1820
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication?  and if so, in what respect?  Correct

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.

E. Stephens
Examining Clerk.
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State of Connecticut}
County of Middletown}  ss. town of Middletown

On this 11th, day of August AD 1832 personaly appeared before the Court of Probate in & for the District of Middletown aforesaid, now sitting, Elisha Hubbard  a resident of Middletown aforesaid, aged seventy eight years, who being first duly sworn, according to Law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed  June 7. 1832. - That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year 1777, on the 17th day of March, as a Sergeant, with Captain Whiting and served in Col. Samuel B. Webb's regiment, in the Connecticut Line, under the following named officers -He enlisted for three years & served for & during that whole period when he  was discharged  --- Shortly after his enlistment Captain Whiting, the commander of his company left in consequence of ill-health, when Joseph Walker took command
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At the time of his Enlistment Samuel B. Webb was Colonel, William Livingston was Lieut Colonel and Ebenezer Huntinton Major of his regiment --He joined the army at Peekskill - His regiment after being at West -point and other places on the Hudson the first summer & winter, in the army under Genl Putnam, was marched in 1778 to Rhode Island, was in the Engagement there & wintered at Warren, near Bristol - The latter part of the 1779, his regiment was marched to New-Jersey, where it wintered at Morristown and there remained until he was discharged - After Col. Webb was taken prisoner on Long-Island Lieut Col. Livingston commanded & afterwards Ebenezer Huntington who was promoted - from the latter he received his discharge - In 1780 in the summer, he served as sergeant major by Enlistment, three months, at New London, in this state, in the Connecticut State troops, in the Regiment commanded by Col Richards & the company commanded by Capt Stewart -
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resided in Middletown aforesaid - He also served six months in 1776, in the Connecticut State troops, in New York and on the Jersey shore and at Fort Washington, in Col Bradley's regiment and Capt Jonathan Johnson's company - (smudged) surrender of Fort Washington he was taken prisoner & confined about two months, in the Sugar - house, in the city of New York - 
And for further particulars, if requisite, he would refer to his application for a pension made in 1819 - 1820.  & his discharge and other documents accompanying it, on file in the War Department - 
He hereby religuishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any State -
Sworn to & subsribed the day and year aforesaid - 
Elisha Hubbard
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And the Said Court does hereby declare  its opinion, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states -   

Stillman K. Wightman,  Judge of Probate for the District of Middletown

I John Fisk clerk of the court of Probate in & for the District of Middletown in the county of Middlesex, and State of Connecticut, do certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Elisha Hubbard for a pension - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 11th day of  (covered) AD 1802 - 

John Fish Clk
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State of Connecticut }
County of Middlesex} ss. Middletown June 9th A.D. 1847

On the ninth day of June, A.D. one thousand eight hundred and forty  seven, before me Jonathan Baarnes a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, personally appeared Chauncey Wetmore who after being Sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain an increase or allowance on the pension granted to Elisha Hubbard late of the said Town of Middletown, noe deceased : That he is the Husband of Rebecca, one of the daughters of the Said Elisha Hubbard:  That Said Elisha Hubbard was a pernsioner under the Act of 1832 for his serving as a Sergeant in the Revolututionary Wara up to the time of his decease,  which took place in the Said Town of Middletown on the Twenty eighth day of January in the year one thousand eight gndred and thirty seven: That at the time of his death, he left no widow, but left the folling named childrnl who now Survive him, and are his only lawful children, to wit:  Rebecca the wife of Chauncey Wetmore, (the declarant)
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[handwritten]
who were his neighbors and friends, to have served in the latter part of the Said War as a wagon-conductor for which Service he, the declarant, now claims, in behalf of his wife, and the within named children of the said Elisha Hubbard, an allowance of the difference between what the Said Elisha Hubbard received as a Sergeant at the rate of one hundred and twenty dollars per annum, and what he was entitled to receive for his additional Services as a Wagon Conductor.
[signed] Chauncey Witmore

Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year first before written by the Said declarant before me
[signed] Jonathan Barnes
Justice of the Peace

I further certify that I am personally and intimately acquainted with the Said declarant, who is a very worthy and respectable citizen; also that Satisfactory evidence has been Shown before me that Elisha Hubbard, the person mentioned in the foregoing declaration, late of Said Middletown, deceased, was a pensioner for his Services as a Sergeant in the Revolutionary War, that he died in Said Middletown on the 28th day of January A.D. 1837, and left no widow, but left the following named children, who now Survive him, and are his only lawful children, to wit: Rebecca Witmore, the wife of Chauncey Witmore, Sarah S. Hubbard, the wife of Josiah M. Hubbard, Phabe Hall the wife of Seth S Hall, all of Said Middletown, Martha Hayden, the widow of Uriah Hayden, of Saybrook in said County of Middlesex, Daniel Hubbard of Greensburg in the County of Trumbull and State of Ohio, Ann Hubbard and Mary Hubbard both of Said Middletown, now residing in Said Greensburg, and David Hubbard, who has gone to parts unknown. 
[signed] Jonathan Barnes
Justice of the Peace
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State of Connecticut

I, JOHN B. ROBERTSON, Secretary of the State of Connecticut, and Keeper of the Seal thereof do hereby certify and make known to whom it doth or may concern That Jonathan Barnes is and since the 20th day of June last past hath been Justice of the Peace with and for the County of Middlesex,  in said State duly appointed and commissioned,    having full power and authority by the laws of said State to take the Acknowledgment of Deeds and to certify the same; also to administer Oaths, to take Affidavits and Depositions out of Court, and to give Certificates thereof ; and that full faith and credit may and ought to be given to his official acts and attestations.  

And I further certify, That I believe the foregoing signature of the said Jonathan Barnes to be genuine

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of said State, at Hartford this 10th day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty seven.

John B. Robertsson'Secretary of State.
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Rev. & 1012 Wars Section

November 21, 1924

Elisabeth B. False
1402 V. 20th St.
Minneapolis, Mian.

Madam:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolution-ary [Revolutionary] War pension claim, S.18457, it appears that Elisha Hubbard was born in Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut, date not stated.
While a resident of said place be enlisted in 1996 as a pri-vate [private] in Capital Jonathan Johnson's Company, Colonel Bradley's Connecticut Regiment, was taken prisoner at Fort Washington and confined in the "Sugar House" in New York City for two months, serving six months including imprisonment.
He enlisted March 17, 1999, and served three years as Sergeant in Captains Whiting's and Joseph Walher's Companies, Colonel Samuel B. Webb's Connecticut Regiment; he was in the battle of Rhode Island.
He enlisted in the summer of 1988 and served three months as Sergeant-Major in Captain Stewart's Company, Colonel Richards' Con-neeticut [Connecticut] Regiment.
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He was allowed pension on his application executed August 11, 1832, while a resident of Middletown, Connecticut, aged 78 years. He died there January 28, 1837, leaving no window, but the following children:
Rebecca, who married Chauncey Wetmore; Sarah S., who married Josiah M. Hubbard | Phebe, who married Seth S. Mall; Martha, who married Uriah Hayden | Ann Phillipe; Mary, Daniel, David, and Elisha, Hubbard.
The name of soldier's wife is not stated.
Respectfully,

Commissioner
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6.315
Connecticut
Elisha Hubbard

of     in the State of       who was a Wagon Comdr. & Sgt. commanded by Captain Conn & Continental of the     commanded by      in the   Revolution 

Insribed on the Roll of Hartford at the rate of $40 Dollars   ---Cents per annum,   (??) the 4th day of March, 1831. 
 Ending  28 Jany. 1837   (?) from $285 - 

Certificate of Pension issued the 21 day of Sept. 1852 and Sent to  JM Thayer

Arrears to the 4th of     Present.
Semi-annual allowance ending

Cancelled (?) Old Agency Book

{Revolutionary Claim, }
{ Act June 7, 1832}

Recorded by R Mc Rae
Book E Vol. 3    Page 19
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Elisha Hubbard, out of 1832. Connectit
admitted.     (?)
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Elisha Hubbard.  desd
Conn    1836 or 32

Ex by W Noyes - Aug 31 - 53
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[typed]
	It appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 18457, that Elisha Hubbard was born in Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut, date not stated.
	While a resident of said place, he enlisted in 1776, as a private in Captain Jonathan Johnson’s company, Colonel Bradley’s Connecticut regiment, was taken prisoner at Fort Washington and confined in the “Sugar House” in New York City for two months, serving six months including imprisonment.

-2-

[handwritten in right margin]
Letter addressed to Hon. Richard P. Freeman
See request in E paper 
delete Champion
S. 16711
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[typed]
       He enlisted March 17, 1777, and served three years as sergeant in Captain Whiting’s and Joseph Walker’s companies, Colonel Samuel B. Webb’s Connecticut regiment; he was in the battle of Rhode Island. 
	He enlisted in the summer of 1780, and served three months as sergeant major in Captain Stewart’s company, Colonel Richard’s Connecticut regiment. 
	He was allowed pension on his application executed August 11, 1832, while a resident of Middletown, Connecticut, aged seventy-eight years. 
         He died there January 28, 1837, leaving no widow, but the following children: - Rebecca, who married Chauncey Wetmore; Sarah S., who married Josiah M. Hubbard; Phabe who married Seth S. Hall; Martha, who married Uriah Hayden; Ann Phillips; Mary, Daniel, David and Elisha Hubbard.
     The name of the soldier’s wife is not stated.
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Bureau of Pensions
Washington  D. C. 

Dear Sir - 

I am quite desirous of proving up a D A. R. line thru Elisha Hubbard of Middletown Connecticut - Have been unable so far to get the date of his marriage to Martha Roberts- Have written to the Town Clerk and he writes me that their records and very incomplete and the day of marriage
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does not appear also that only part of his Service appears on  the State Records.  Will you kindly send me the record of his service and anything you may know of his marriage.

I thought possibly if he was a pensioner you might know.  Any information that you can give me will be quality appreciated.

Respectfully  yours
Elizabeth B. Fales 
1402 W 28th Street
Mineapolis
Minn.

Nov. 3rd 1924.
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3  - 371

Department of the Interior, 
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.


Briefed by   Marion B Hudson
Claim No. _______________________
Certificate No.__S. F.  18457____________
Claimant   Elisha Hubbard. 
Soldier _______________________

Service________________________________________
Additional Service____________________
____________________________________________
No                      claim, State records                                190
No claim, combination records                                         190

REMARKS;

No claim for Elisha Hubbard other than the above.


Chief Division
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[printed letterhead]

Frank Farnsworth Starr,
Genealogist and Family Historian
Middletown, Conn.
Starr’s Ancestral Register.

[typed]
May 2, 1924

Pension Office
Washington, D. C., 

Gentlemen:
I wish to obtain a statement of the services in the War of the Revolution of David Hubbard and Elisha Hubbard both of Middlesex county, Connecticut who were placed on the pension rolls in 1833  ALSO any information about their families that may be disclosed by the files. 
Respectfully
[signed] Frank Farnsworth Starr
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[top of page torn]
[partial] 812 Wa[torn]ion

[top right corner, handwritten]
M.C.S.

[typed]
June 6, 1824

Frank F. Starr
Middletown
Conn. 

Sir:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 18457, it appears that Elisha Hubbard was born in Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut, date not given.
	While a resident of said place he enlisted in 1776 as a private in Captain Jonathan Johnson’s Company, Colonel Bradley’s Connecticut Regiment, was taken prisoner at Fort Washington and confined in the “Sugar House” in New York City for two months, serving six months including imprisonment. 
	He enlisted March 17, 1777, and served three years as sergeant in Captain Whiting’s and Joseph Walker’s companies, Colonel Samuel B. Webb’s Connecticut regiment; he was in the battle of Rhode Island.
         He enlisted in the summer of 1780, and served three months as sergeant major in Captain Stewart’s company, Colonel Richard’s Connecticut regiment.
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[typed]
He was allowed a pension on his application executed August 11, 1832, while a resident of Middletown, Connecticut, aged 78 years. He died there January 28, 1837, leaving no widow, but the following children: - 
Rebecca, who married Chauncey Wetmore, Sarah S., who married Josiah M. Hubbard, Phabe who married Seth S. Hall, Martha, who married Uriah Hayden, Ann Phillips, Mary, Daniel, David and Elisha Hubbard.
The name of his wife is not stated.

Respectfully,

[not signed]
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State of Connecticut}
County of Middlessex} ss:

Be it known, that on the twenty ninth day of April, A. D. eighteen hundred and fifty two, before the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared Chauncey Wetmore, a resident of Middletown in said County, and made oath according to law, that he is the Administrator and Son in Law of Elisha Hubbard deceased who was a Revolutionary Pensioner under the Act of 1832 as Sergeant at one hundred and twenty dollars per year, and died on 28th January 1837, that he makes this affidavit for the purpose of claiming an Increase of said pension for the services of his said Father in Law, as a wagon Master on Conductor of Teams; that he is directly interested, as aforesaid, as a claimant, and makes this affidavit for the purpose of obtaining such Increase of pension as may be due under any of the Law, Regulations, or decision that have been or may hereafter be adopted.  The said Affiant further declares that he hereby constitutes and appoints John M. Thayer Esq. of Washington City to be Attorney and Agent to prosecute said claim, with power of substitution, to examine all papers and documents in relation to it, and to do all things necessary and lawful in the premises; except drawing the money, which will be hereafter provided for.

Chauncey Wetmore

Sworn to and subscribe, the day and year aforesaid, before me
Noah A Phelps

I, Noah A. Phelps, Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, do hereby certify that Chauncey Wetmore, above named is a respectable resident of this County, and is, as I believe, directly interested in said claim as therein set forth, and acknowledges the above Power of Attorney to be his act and deed.

Noah A Phelps & Surrogate
J. Peace

In testimony that the above-named  was a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, at the date of the same, I hereby subscribe my name and affix the County Seal.

County Clerk
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Elisha Hubbard's pension paper


No. 5203
 A1

J Whiting


( can't decipher )

admit
Pen.  $120-

Report to Secy Interior 7 Feby 1853
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State of Connecticut }   Middletown.
Middlesex county  } August 7th A.D. 1832

I Nehemiah Hubbard of Middletown, in the county  of Middlesex, aged eighty, being duly cautioned & Sworn, do depose & say __

That I have read the statement by Elisha Hubbard of said MIddletown, in his his application for a pension, of his services, as a revolutionary Soldier.  - That I am well acquainted with, the said Hubbard's haveing enlisted in the army of  of the United States, in Col. Webbs regiment in 1777, and served in that regiment for three years , as he states - I recollect perfectly, having seen him, at various times during his said Service in Said regiment, once on the return through this state of said regiment from Rhode Island, and once in the State of New York, just previous to Said regiment's going into winter quarters at Morristown - I am a brother of the applicant - In the year 1778  (smudged) appointed deputy quarter master General for the State of Connectiut, by
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Genl Green, & held the office until Gen Green resigned, when I resigned also, a period of three years or more I was stationed at Hartford in said state  - I have frequently heard my brother relate his other services & fully believe his having performed them , as he states, and as he is  reputed to have done, but I have no personal knowledge of them having been in West=Indies, during part of the years 1775, & 1776 - & having been also absent in the years 1780, & 1781 - And further I say not - 

Nehemh  Hubbard 

Sworn & subscribed to this 7th day of August AD 1932 before me

Willm L Storrs
Justice of the peace

State of Connecticut}
Middlesex County (?) }    Middletown

I John Fisk Clerk of the County Court of County of Middlesex do Certify that Willm L Storrs Esq. is a Justice of the Peace within & for the County of Middlesex (?) (?) on file inn my office & that his name subscribed to the preceding Certificate is his
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 large  seal      

proper Hand Writing & signature
In Testimony whereof I have hereto set my Hand & affixed the Seal of Court this 11th day of Aug. AD.  1832

Jhn. Fisk Clk
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Sir,

I (?) herewith the declaration of Chauncey Wetmore, for his wife and the other children, heirs of Elisha  Hubbard late of Conn a sergant of the Rev Army & pensions as met to his death.

The claim for (?) of pension the (?) their late father, Elisha Hubbard, for his service as a wagon cononitor, in which capacity it is alleged he served, and the evidence of which service, if not among the files in your office, it is stated can be found among the Revolutionary record in the Dept. of State, which it is requested you will cause to be examined for that purpose

Very Respectfully & c
J. H Noyes
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6 July 1847

Copy of Letter from Comr Pensions to J H Noyes in relation to pension claim of Elisha Hubbard decd


ID
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Pension Office, July 6, 1847.

Sir:
The general statements made before a Justice of the Peace in the case of Elisha Hubbard intimating the belief that he was a Conductor of Teams in the Revolutionary War without any evidence whatever derives no support from his papers.  Children have no claim in their  own right but may under certain circumstances become recipients of what may be found due to a deceased parent at his or her death - Elisha Hubbards claim as set forth by himself has been adjusted and paid - and it is not consistent with the Rules to reopen it upon the general allegation of children that he rendered service not set forth or claimed by him, until the period - length - grade - officers - station & c. are distinctly set forth in a declaration as those rules require.
The coincidence of their fathers name with that of an Officer or Soldier found upon the rolls of service affords very slight ground with
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-out other evidence for asserting a claim.

Very Ac
(signed) J  L Edwards.
Commr
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Increase, 

Elisha Hubbard decd.
Connt.
Act 7 June 1832
Adm.

11 mo: Wagon Conr.      $220.
13 mos Sergt.                     65
                                        $285

per an:  to 28 Jan 7 1837When he died.  Deduct from paymts at the rate of $120 per an:  Payable to Chauncey Wetmore, Adm. for the benefit of. Elisha Hubbard, Martha Hubbard, Rebecca Wetmore, Ann Phillips, Sarah L. Hubbard, Phebe Hall, Daniel Hubbard. David Hubbard and Mary Hubbard, only surviving children  

Cert 

J. M. thayer.
Present.
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Washington Oct 18th 1832

I am well acquainted with Elisha S Hubbard and Chauncy Wetmore of the town of Middletown & State of Connecticut they are men of (?) & respectability I was also acqainted with Elisha Hubbard the father of Elisha S Hubbard who was an esteemed & respectable citizen & I have no doubt in my mind from my knowledge of Elisha that he was employed as a teamster during the war of the revolution - 

Sam D Hubbard
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Department of the Interior
Washington Augt 13. 1853

Sir:

Your decision, in the case of Elisha Hubbard. has been affirmed, and the papers are herewith returned to you.

Respectfully
You ObsSvt
R McClellan
Secretary

Hon L. P. Waldo
Commr of Pensions
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Brief in the case of Elisha Hubbard decd
County and State of Connt.
act 7 June 1832.

Claim, ("original," or "for increase.")

Proof exhibited, (if original.)

Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls?  If either, state the substance.

In allowing this case some time since I made an error in computation.  He was Sergt in the Line during the 11 months he was wagon conductor - I only increased the pay of conductor I now add the pay of Sergt. 

(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim?  If so, what?



Name and residence of Agent                                     
J. M. Thayer
Present.

Kirby
Examing Clerk.
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Brief in the case of Elisha Hubbard decd
County and State of Connt.
act 7 June 1832.


Claim, ("original," or "for increase.")

Proof exhibited, 

Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls?  If either, state the substance.

Record.

(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim?  If so, what?




Name and residence of Agent
J. M. Thayer
Present

Kirby
Examining Clerk.
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43./  Washington D.C.
January 19, 1853,

J. M. Thayer

appeal from decision of Comr in the case of Elisha Hubbard



(?) Repy (?) Com: Pensions
for Report
Depr of In't }
Jany 19./53}


Recd Jany 19, 1853.
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Washington D. C.
Jan'y 19th 1853

Sir:
I hereby appeal from the decision of the Commissioner of pensions in the case of Elisha Hubbard of C't pensioner act 7th June1832.

The point of appeal is this:  Elisha Hubbbard served in two capacities at the same time viz:  Sergeant of Waggon conductoras shown by the evidence.  I claim that he should be allowed a pension for the two services.

Respecfully Yours
J.M. Thayer




To Sec'y of Interior}
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Department of State.
Washington May 17th. 1852

J. M. Thayer, Esq.
Washington

Sir:
In reply to your letter of the 13th instant, I have to communicate the following evidence of the Revolutionary services of Elisha Hubbard, as a Wagon Conductor.

In Vol. 192. Old Congress Papers, p. 383. there is a "Return of the D.W. M. Generals. Waggon and Sub Conductors now present with the army, Feb. 1, 1778." signed by " James Thompson W.M. Gen l.", - wherein appears the name of Elisha Hubbard, SubConductor. (Station in the Army) Sergeant---Appointed by
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" S. Col. Thornburgh - 3d Octo. 1777 - 
" Dollars per month 40 - Rations per day, "3"

In Vol: 173. No. 1.  p 103. of the same series of papers, in a "General account of Horses on hand Oc. Oc, the name of "Elisha Hubbard, W. C. occurs repeatedly.  This paper is dated "31 August 1778."

I am Sir, respectfully,
Your obedient Servant.
W.J. Carpenter
ActingSecretary.
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2 Feb 1853

Letter from the Secretary of State shewing that the Army was stationed at Valley Forge at the time Elisha Hubbard was connected with it as Waggon Conductor.



(Smudged)
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Department of State
Washington.  Feb 2 1853.

J. E. Heath Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions

Sir:  In reply to your interrogatories of yesterday, in relation to the Revolutionary service of Elisha Hubbard, I have to Note,  that in Washington Papers, vol 192./383, he is said to have been "recommended by Col. Thomas, D.I. M. G. and to have been "appointed by Lt Col. Thornburgh":  and upon the authority of Mr. Sparks / Life of Washington/ the Department replies, that the Army at the date of that return was stationned at "Valley Forge".

I am Sir: very respectfully
Your Obedient Servant

Edward Everett
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August 16, 1853

Copy

Sir. The decision of the office in the case of Elisha Hubbard, dcd State of Connecticut, Act 7 June 1832, has been affirmed by the Secy of the Interior

To J. M. Thayer, Esq
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J. E Heath

Comm of Pensions.

February 7th 1853

Report in the case of Elisha Hubbard, for increase

Mr. Thayer's letter returned

Papers maked A. B. C. D. E. & F & G enclosed.
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Pension Office, 
February 7th 1853

Sir:
I have received the letter of Mr. J. M. Thayer, of date 19 Jany 1853, appealing from my decision, rejecting the application for an incresase of pension, in the caes of Elisha Hubbard, deceased, and beg leave to submit the following Report:

Mr. Thayer, in his letter of appeal, has but anticipated my purpose to report to you all the facts connected with this claim.  In many respects, it is similar to the case of Benjamin Simmons, a detailed report of which was furnished on the 13th Jany 1853.  In the month of June last, a considerable increase of Hubbard's pension was allowed by Mr. Kirby, then an examiner in this Office which, in my judgement, was most improper, and which certainly would not have received my sanction, if I been cognizant of the facts at the time.  Subsequently he allowed a still further increase, but my suspicions having in the meantime, been excited, I refused to sign the certificate until I had an opportunity of examining the evidence filed in support of the claim.  The result of that examination satisfied me that is was allowd upon altogether insufficient testimony, and of course the certificate has never issued from the office.  It is from that decision that Mr. Thayer now appeals.

In order rightly to understand the question as now presented, it will be necessary to furnish a brief history of he case, and to consider how far the increase of pension made in June last, was justified by the evidence furnished.  Elisha Hubbard applied for a pension under the Act of 7th June 8th shortly after the passage of the Act.  In his
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declaration (see paper A, ) he alleges the following service, viz; that in March, 1777, he enlisted as a sergeant for three years in Capt. Whiting's company, in the regiment of the Connecticut Line, commanded by Col. Samuel B. Webb, and after the expiration of his term of service was regularly discharged.  He further alleges that, after this term of service was over,  he served three months in the Connecticut State troops, and that before he enlisted as sergeant in Capt. Whiting's company, he served six months in the same troops.  His Statement as to his service in the regular line is fully sustained by the deposition of his brother Nehemiah Hubbard, and by the muster Rolls in the Pension Office.   Upon this evidence, he was pensioned as sergeant at the rate of $120 - full pension.  

In this allowance, Hubbard seems fully to have acquiesced during his lifetime, and his heirs for many years after his death.  In June, 1847, however, Mr. J. H. Noyes, on behalf of the heirs, applied for an increase of pension for Hubbard's services as Wagon conductor, alleging that proof of such service, if not  in the Pension Office, could be found among the Records of the State Department, (see papers B. & C. ))  His appllication was, however, rejected for the very pertinent reasons assigned in the letter addressed to him the 6th of July, 1847, a copy of which (marked D) is filed with the papers.  In May, 1852, the application was renewed by Mr. J. H. Thayer, who, in support of the claim filed some evidence taken from the records of the State Department (see papers E & F.)  This application was very favorably considered by Mr. Kirby, who, in the following month, allowed for eleven months' service as Wagon conductor, thereby increasing the entire pension from $1200 to $285.  How far this
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increase was justified, I shall now proceed to consider.

The evidence filed by Mr. Thayer, (paper E.) consists of one or more extracts from the records of the State Department, showing that a man named Elisha Hubbard, a sergeant, and stationed in the Army, was appointed by Lieut. Col. Thornburgh, a sub conductor in the Wagon Department, the 2nd of October, 1777. with the pay of $ 40 per month, and that his name as Wagon conductor repeatedly appears in a "General Acount of Horses on hand, etc, " which bears date the 31st of August, 1778.  There is, nothing, however, to show that the Elisha Hubbard referred to in these extracts, was the same person who was pensioned for his services as a sergeant in Col. Webb's regiment.  On the contrary, there are various grounds for supposing that they were altogether different persons.

In the first place, it should be observed that Elisha Hubbard, in his declaration , makes no mention whatever of his having ever served as a Wagon Conductor or in any other staff capacity.  Yet, in that declaration, he recites, with great clearness, and in much detail, his various tours of service, the different commanders under whom he served, and the various localities which he visited during his term of enlistment.  Nor does his brother, Nehemiah Hubbard, who served a portion of the time with Elisha refer to any such service.  The former was himself attached to the Quartermasters's department, in a very high capacity, and it is fair to presume, from his intimate acquaintance with Elisha, that he would have remembered and testified to any such service if it had really been performed.  The fact that both are altogether silent in regard to it
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that the extract from the records of the State Department, refers to a very different person.

Again:  many of the Rolls of Captain Whiting's company, in which. Elisha Hubbbard served, are on file in the Pension Office, and upon every one of them appears the name of Elisha Hubbard as a sergeant in the company.  Upon no one of them is there any memorandum to show that he was any time connected with the Wagon masters department.  It should, however, be observed that the earliest roll of Whiting's company bears date subsequent to the 31st August, 1778.

If, however, any doubt should exist as to the fact of there being two different men of the name of Elisha Hubbard, I think it must be at once removed by an examination of the letter from the Department of State, (marked F)  According to that evidence, the Elisha Hubbard, who was appointed sub-conductor by Lieut Col. Thornburgh, on the 3rd of October, 1777. was 'present with the army," the 1st. February 1778.  From the letter of the Secretary of State, (paper G) it appears that the army, at that time, was stationed at Valley Forge.  It follows, then, that if the pensioner, Elisha Hubbard, was really the sub-conductor of that name, he must have been at Vally Forge on the 1st. of February, 1778. Now let us compare this with the statement made under oath by the pensioner in his declaration to obtain a pension.  In that declaration, he avers that his regiment was marched, in 1778, to Rhode Island, was in the engagement there, and wintered at Warren, near Bristol.  It was only until the latter part of the
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year 1779. that it marched to New Jersey.  The pensioner, it is true, does not state in terms, that he was with his regiment during the whole period of his enlistment, but that such was his meaning is apparent from the general tenor of his declaration.  Moreover, the Rolls in this Office show that in Dec. 1778, Hubbard was a sergeant in Col. Webb's regiment, then stationed in Rhole Island.  It would be extravagant to suppose that a few months previous, he was acting as Wagon Conductor at Valley Forge.  All the facts of the case maket perfectly clear that there were two men by the name of Elisha Hubbard - one a sergeant in Col. Web's regiment of the Connecticut Line, and stationed with the regiment in Rhode Island, - the other connected with the Wagonmaster's Department, and present with the Army at Valley Forge in February, 1778.

The claim now presented and upon which Mr. Thayer appeals, in that the pay of the sergeant should be added to that of Wagon Conductor, so that Hubbard should be pensioned for eleven months' service as Wagon Conductor and sergeant, at the rate of $600 - full pension.  If I have succeeded in establishing the fact that the pensioner never held the post of Wagon Conductor, the question is, of  course, settled.  But, even upon a different hypothesis, the claim would be utterly without merit.  It is very plain that the duties of sergeant and Wagon Conductor are utterly inconsistent, and it is highly improbable that any one person, during the Revolutionary War, should have been paid in both those capacities. There  is nothing in the law or the practice of the Office to warrant the allowance of any such claim.  So far from admitting such a case, I consider that it would be right and proper to require the Agent to refund the
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proportion he received of the claim allowed by the Examiner in June last.  


I have the honor to be,
Very respectfully, 
Your Obt. Servt,
J.E. Heath
Commissioner.
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Elisha Hubbard, decd.
Connt
Act 7 June 1832.
admr.

11mo wagon condr. & Sergt
$275
13 mo Sergt.  65
$340
per an: to 28 Jan. 7 1837 when  he recd - Deduct  former paymts at the rate of $285 per ann:
Payable as before -
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Washington August 7. 1852


Dear Sir

I have respectfully to request that you will cause the papers in the case of Elisha Hubbard, of Connt. Act 1832, to be examined with a view to the correction of an error made at the time the claim was last acted upon.  Mr. Hubbard was a Sergeant, and Waggon Conductor, at the same time, as you will perceive by reference to the Certificate of the Secretary of State, and consequently shoud have been allowed a Pension equal to half his monthly pay received in both capacities Viz: $25 per month instead of $20 per month, as was erroneously allowed him.

I ask your immediate attention to this matter and that a  Certificate may issue accordingly.

Very respectfully 
(?)
J. M. Thayer
by D. D. Addison

F Y. C. Shiplett Esq.
Acting Com
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Elisha Hubbard

Act 7th June 1832

Ct Agency
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Washington D. C May 18 1852

Sir.

I herewith hand you a Power of Attorney from Chauncey Wetmore, Administator of the estate of Elisha Hubbard, late a Pensioner of the Cnnt. Agency, as a Sergeant under the Act of 7th June 1832 and have respectully to request a re-examination of the papers in his case, with a view to an increase of a Pension for the Services of the said Elisha Hubbard, as Waggon-Conductor in the Revolutionary War. 

Also enclosed you will find the Certificate of the Secretary of State shewing about 12 months service of said Elisha Hubbard as Waggon Conductor at $40 per month.  This you will perceive will entitle his heirs to an increase of $240 per annum.  That he served a much longer time in the above capacity there can be no doubt but as there are no later returns at the state Department of Persons employed under (?) Thompson W.M. Genl. no further proof can now be procured.

An Affidavit of his son Elisha, is also with in and a Certificate of Judge Phelps on the back of it
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of it certifying his belief of the facts therein stated - 

In conclusion, allow me to call your attention to the Application filed by the heirs in 1847 now on file with the other papers in your Office.

Very Respectfully
Your 
J.M.Thayer

P. S. 
You will will perceive tht Elisha Hubbard was pensioned for two years service as a Sergeant in the Ct Contl. Line and by reference to the Letter of the Secy of State, you will observe that the Station of Said Hubard was a Sergeant in the Line.  J. M. T
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Payment, to be made at Hartford, Ct by Charles Boswell Agent for paying pensionors in the Agency of Hartford

#18.45      F

(?)

Recorded in the Pension Office, in Book F  Volume 3  Page (19?) by

R.McRae  Clerk



Elisha Hubbard

32

Conn
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.

Claim for Military Service.

I certify that, in conformity with the law of the United States, of the 7th June 1832, Elisha Hubbard decd, who was a Wagon Conductor & Sergeant in the Revolutionary War, was entitled to a pension of Three Hundred & forty Dollars per annum, commencing  (?)
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State of Connecticut }
County of Middlesex } ss.  Probate office, District of Middletown

On this 29th day of April 1852, Personally appeared before the undersigned Judge of the Court of Probate within & for the District of Middletown, Elisha Hubbard of said Middletown aged fifty nine, who being duly sworn testifies and says that he is the son of Elisha Hubbard deceased who was a Revolutionary Pensioner at $210. per annum - that he has  often heard his said father speak of having served about four or five years in the Revolutionary War, a part of his time as a Sergeant or Sergeant Major and a part of the time he had something to do with teams and provisions as Wagoner, Wagon Master or Conductor of Teams - that he cannot state particularly but believes he was part of the time at Baltimore, Boston and at Peekskill,  (?) many other places --and that he feels certain there was no other Elisha Hubbard belonging to Middletown during the Revolution , ought his said father.

The words "or Sergreant"  interlined befor original

Elisha Hubbard

Sworn and subscribed before me the day & year above written }
Noah A. Phelps    Judge of the  Court of Probate.

I, Noah A. Phelps, Judge of Probate, do hereby certify that Elisha Hubbard, the above affiant, is a reputable resident of this town, and his statements entitled to credit
I further certify that from my knowledge of the old families
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of Middletown and its vicinity, I have reason to believe that the statements contained in the foregoing affidavit are true, and that the said Elisha Hubbard was the only one of that name belonging to this vicinity who served in the Revolution.

Noah A. Phelps.
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18457

File No.   18457

Elisha Hubbard
Capt Whiting
Sergt Rev War
Conn Line

Act: June 7th 32

Index:  Vol 1, Page 436

{Arrangement of 1870.}


1924  June 6, Hist 
Frank F Starr.
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