Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 6,930, John Grant, N.C.
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(8-1776)
SERVICE                                          NUMBER
{handwritten}N.C.     Grant, John  S.6,930

                                                                   carded

CONTENTS
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Dead
Paid at the Treasurey under the Act of April 1838 from 4 Sep 1842 to 4 Sep 1843 as notified 218 Jany 1825

12,800
North Carolina
John Grant
Iredel in the State of No Car; who was a pri: in the company commanded by Captain Franklin of the Regt. commanded by Col: Lyttle in the North Car: line for 13 1/2 months

Inscribed on the Roll of North Carolina at the rate of 45 dollars __ Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the [blacked out] day of May '33 and [blacked out] A. Simonton Statesville C.H.

Arrears to the 4th day of March ' [blacked out] 
90
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept. 22.50
$112.50 [total]

{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Wm. Miller Clerk, Book E. Vol 6. Page 41
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Jn Grant
Declaration
Please return to Hamptonville Surry NC
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State of North Carolina Iredell County [Surry crossed through]
On this day of 1832

Personally appeared in open court before the wonderfful county court of Iredell now sitting John Grant a resident of Iredell County State of North Carolina. Aged 77 years who first being duly sworn according to law. Doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
___ That he entered the service of the United States under the following named Officers and served as herein stated, That he entered the army under a draft which he thinks took in the month of July 1782 was mustered into service at Wilksboro No Ca in the month of August following in the company comanded by Capt Jessie Franklin  (Linar Mayor, & Govr of NoCa) we were marched to Romsons Mill on cowtaba (in Rutherford or Lincoln County) we were then comanded by Capt Brevard who marched in on to Camden So Ca when we joined Col Lytle, we were then Marched to Ashly Hill. When we joined Genl Green after staying at Ashly Hill a good while we were marched down directly after the Brittish left Charleston and were encamped on James Island near Charleston. Where we staid the ballance
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of the time untill disbanded, was discharged by Col Lylte. the time of enlistment was eighteen months. Served some longer but does not recollect exactly how much. answers to the intrerrogatories by the court - 
1st I was born in SomersetShire, England
2d I have no record of my age but know my birth is recorded in the Parrish where I was born
3d I was living in Wilks County in this State. Have since lived & now live in Iredell County.
4 I was acquainted with the following officers. Genl Green. Genl Col Stewart of the Maryland line Capt. Rhodes
5. I was enlisted by Col Cleveland
6. I was discharged by Col Lytle but it is lost
7. I refer to Joh nHoward Esqr. & Abraham Cook [smudged] to satisfy to my [illegible] I have no documentary evidence that I am [illegible] he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity excepts the presents & declares that his name is not on the [illegible] Role of the agency of any state or territory
Sworn to and subs entered in open court this 20th day of Nov 1832
John Grant
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We John Howard & Abraham Cook residing in the County of Iredell North Carolina hereby certify that we have been acquainted with John Grant, who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration for more than twenty years, that we believe him to be seventy seven years of age that he is respected & believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, & that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn & subscribed in open court this 20th Nov. 1832.
John Howard
Abraham Cook
And the said court do hereby declare thier opinion after the investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories hrisenbed [illegible] by the War department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, & served as he states. And the court further certifies, that it appears to them that John Howard & Abram Cook who have signed the preceeding certificate are credible persons & that their statement is entitled to credit.
I Abraham Limanten Clerk of the County Court of Pleas & Quarter sessions for Iredell County North Carolina do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of John Grant for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office at Statesville this 20th day of November 1832
A. Limonton Clk
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
SECOND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE,
December 26th 1844
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An Act
directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners
and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States" and the third section of the Act of August 23, 1842, extending
the time within which pensioners may receive their pensions from the pension agents, The Childn... of John Grant dec
a Pensioner on the Roll of the North Carolina
Agency, at the rate of Forty five dollars ---
Cents per annum, under the law of the 7th June
1832, has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of Sept. 1842, to the 4th Sept 1843
Respectfully, yours [illegible signature]
Comptroller.
To the COMMISSIONER OF PENSIONS,
Present.
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Jno. Grant
N.C.
No. 21187
[light pencil marks] 10th Rec 18 months send William [illegible]

Admit as a private[?]
for 13 1/2 mo $45
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has
been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of
your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and
the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed,
before a pension can be allowed. the notes and the regulations will shew what is
necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed,
you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: }). You will, when
you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and
you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your
claim.

A statement, shewing the service of John Grant
Period when the service was rendered | Duration of the claimant's service| Years | Months | Days | Rank of the claimant. |
Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. | Names and Rank
of the General and Field officers. ┃
Battles in which the applicant was engaged┃
Country through which he marched. |
Place of abode when he entered
the service, and age at the present period.|
Evidence by which the declaration
is supported |
| thinks July 1782 enlisted | | 13 [crossed out 18] | 15 | Pri | Capt. J Franklin Capt. Brevard | Col Lytle Genl Green | | Wilksboro N.C. To Ramson's Mill then to Camden then to Ashley Hill | && years Wilkes Co. N.C. | Traditionary

I am, respectfully, Your obedient servant, 
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of
Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army,
and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteer"s, all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who
were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to
Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are
also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged
in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops.
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3. Persons employed in the Naval service.
4. Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming
the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of
Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is a Court of Record.

DECLARATION.
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State Territory, or District of County of} ss.
On this ___ day of____personally appeared (a) before ___A.B. a resident (b) of___in the county of___
and State, Territory or District of ___ aged (c) ___years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the
following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provion made by the act of Congress, passed
served in the
June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) ___, with ___ and served in the ___(e) regiment of the ___
line, under the following named officers:

Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;)the town or county and State in which he resided when he  enered the service;  the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c}

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he
declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of ___
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. A. B. 
{And then will follow the certificate of the Court.}

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I ___ of the Court of___do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of application of ___for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this___day of___& c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be
found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia,
except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and
subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A.B., a Clergyman, residing in the ___and C.D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with___who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be
___who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be ___ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
And then will follow the certificate of the Court.
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after
putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary
Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the___
and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the ___
and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, ___
Clerk of the Court of ___do hereby certify that the foregoing 
contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the applicacation of ___for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal
of office, this ___
day of___
& c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if
possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon such transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will
also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful
in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his
alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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 will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case. 

The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia. 
1. Where and in what year were you born? 
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it? 
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live? 
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom? 
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
6. To a Soldier Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? 
To an Officer Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 

The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant. 

The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates. 

The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.

Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court. 

Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a  Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature. 

No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter. 

(a)	The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
(b)	The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
(c)	The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned. 
(d)	The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served. 
(e) Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: --For—year—months, and –days, I served as a – For – months and –days, I served as a --; and for such service I claim a pension.” It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
(f) The law makes the relinquishment indispensable. 
(g) The opinion of the Court is always required. 
(h) The Clerk must give his certificate in every case. 
(i) The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the other character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers. 
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 

Proof of Service.
(j) In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. The notes from (a) to (i) are all equally applicable to the case of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troope. The proof required by rule in note (j) applies to continental troops only. 
(k) This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
(l) If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact. 
(m) The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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November 10, 1931
BA-J/MMHF
Esmeralda Robinson Smith 
Tennessee Polytechnic Institute 
Cookeville, Tennessee

Dear Madam: 

Reference is made to your letter addressed to Mr. Sam Jared, Junior, this city, requesting information in regard to Revolutionary War soldiers, Jesse and John Grant and Joseph England. 

A careful search of the records has been made in your behalf and no claim for pension or bounty land found based upon service in that war of Jesse Grant of Ireland or who ever resided in North Carolina or of a John Grant of Ireland. 

The record of one John Grant of England has been found and only one Joseph England of any place; their records follows:

The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S.6930, based upon the military service of John Grant in that war. 

John Grant was born in Somersetshire, England, the fate not stated. 

While living in Wilkes County, North Carolina, he enlisted in August, 1782, and served as a private eighteen months in Captain Jesse Franklin's Company, Colonel Cleveland's North Carolina Regiment  and Captain Brevard’s Company, Colonel Lytle's North Carolina Regiment.

He was allowed pension on his application executed November 20, 1833, while a resident of Iredell County, North Carolina aged seventy seven years. 

He died September 4, 1843. 

His children are referred to, but their names and the name of his wife are not given. *
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[Left]
1924 Dec 3 - Hist: to E.F.J.Taf _ MM&F
1931 - Nov 10 - Hist to Esmeralda Robinson Smith_EEL
[Right]
Rev War
6930
INVALID.
File No. 6930
John Grant
Pri Rev War
Act: June 7th 32
{Arrangement of 1870.}
Born in England
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3-049
Ex MMHF Div Rev. 7812 Wars Section

Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C. June 25, 1924

[Stamp]
Office of the Commissioner U.S. Bureau of Pensions Nov 24 1924

The attached letter is respectfully returned with the information that the data furnished is not sufficient to enable this Bureau to make intelligent answer to the queries therein contained.
[No. of claim] crossed out] 
1st name of widow
Name of soldier John Grant of Cooke County Tenn.
[P.O. crossed out] address of [claimant crossed out] soldier at enlistment and after service
[Company crossed out] No nothing of service
[Regiment crossed out] name of wife Elizabeth-----
State where enlisted Section now Cooke Co. Tenn.
Date of [enlistment crossed out] birth
Date of [discharge crossed out] death

If unable to furnish company and regiment give names of commanding officers.
Which War? Revolution
[Return attached letter with reply crossed out]
Washington Gardeni [signature]
Commissioner.
6-216
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State of North Carolina
Secretary of State's Office
I William Hill Secretary of State in and for the state aforesaid, do certify that it appears from musterrolls of the continental line of this state in the revolutionary war, that John Grant a private in Capt. Brevard's Company of the 10th Regiment, enlisted in the year 1782 for the term of 18 months, that nothing more is said of him on said rolls.
Given under my hand this 24th day of April 1833 W. Hill
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MMHF
Rev. and 1812 Wars Section 
December 3, 1924
E. F. J. Taf 
424 South Broadway Los Angeles, Calif. 
Sir: I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 6930 it appears that John Grant was born in Somersetshire, England, the date not stated. 

While living in Wilkes County, North Carolina he enlisted in August 1782 and served as a private eighteen months in Captain Jesse Franklin's Company, Colonel Cleveland's North Carolina Regiment and Captain Brevard's Company, Colonel Lytle's North Carolina Regiment. 

He was allowed pension on his application execute November 20, 1832 while a resident of Iredell County, North Carolina aged seventy-seven years. He died September 4, 1843. 

His children are referred to, but their names and the name of his wife are not given. The above noted is the only soldier by that name
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found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau who lived in that locality.
Respectfully,

Commissioner
______________________________________
Death not on [illegible] but Miss Wilson said [illegible] this date that we always do, even tho it is a quarterly pay day for pensions.

NC report gives 10" Regt. Lytle was [illegible] 6" according to Heitiman, but there was a new tenth  formed in 1779, so I used Lytle as this soldier gar,