Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 7,001, Allan Herron, N.C.
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SERVICE
NC
Herron, Allan
NUMBER
S.7.001
Carded
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12.172
North Carolina
Alan Herron
of Mecklgh in the State of N.Car
who was a pr in the___commanded
by Captain _____ of the Regt commanded
by Col. Alexander in the N.C.____
line for 7 mo: 13 days

Inscribed on the roll of N. Carolina
at the rate of 24 Dollars 78 Cents per annum
to commence on the 4th day of March 1831

Certificate of Pension issued the 3d day of April
1833 and Sexton Isaac
Alexander, Charlotte NC

Arrears to the 4th of March 1833     49.56
Semi-anl allowance ending 4 Sept   12.39
                                                         $61.95

                                        Revolutionary Claim
                                        Act Jun 7 1832
Recorded by Nathan Rice  Clerk,
Book 6   Vol 6    Page 42
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Allen Herron
N.C.


Admits be priv. for
7 mo and 13 days
from 1780
Colo Alexander NC
$24.78


Isaac Alexander
Charlotte
N.C.
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BRIEF in the case of Allen Herron
County of Mecklenburg in the State of North Carolina
(Act 7th June, 1832)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Open Court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?

3. How old is he?  74 years

4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

Period              Duration of Service                    Rank            Names of General and Field Officers
                         Years,  Months,   Days.                                   under whom he served
  1780                                           8 or 10           Private          Capt Alexander, Colo Alexander
      80                                            7 or 10              "                 "             "     Genl Batherford
      80                                           21 or 22             "                 "             "      Genl Zariason
      80                                3                                    "               Capt McBright
                                                      7 or 10              "                Capt Osburn    Col Irwin
                                          3                                   "
the farther says Mar that as the last town he served this month    
                                                            13
 
5. In what battles was he engaged?  none

6. Where did he reside when he entered the service?  Mecklenburg Co N Carolina

7 Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by
    incidental evidence, or by the rolls?     Traditionary 

8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?  Correct

     I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above
      mentioned
Richard Cutts
Examining Clerk.
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State of North Carolina
Mecklenburg County           Augt. Town Jr

On this 31st day of August 1832 Personally appeared in open
Court before the Judges of the Court of common pleas and quarter peace
now sitting.  Allen Herron a resident of the County and State aforesaid
aged about 74 years as he believes.  Who being first duly sworn accor-
ding to law doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order
to obtain the benefits of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
   That he entered the service of the United States and or the following named
officers and served as herein stated.
That in the year 1780 in the County of Mecklenburg in the State aforesaid
he volunteered and enrolled in a Corps then called and known
as Minute Men.  Sometime in that year in the month of ...
he was called upon and marched under Capt. Ezra Alexander
Col.  .... Alexander commanding officer of the detachment, 
against the Tories in the western part of North Carolina in
Tryon County now Lincoln County, which were embodied about
Bissons and Moors in said County and after dispersing the Tories and
serving the Country some eight or ten days returned home.
   The next tour was in the same year in the month of ....  he was
called upon and or volunteer to join Genl. Rutherford
to join against the Tories embedded at Ramsours Mills in Lincoln
County, marched under Capt. William Alexander.  Joined
Genl. Rutherford before he crossed the river. Rutherford's 
detachment did not arrive at the battle ground until some
hours after the battle was over, was out on this tour
about a week or 10 days as well as he recollects.
   The next tour was as a volunteer Minute Man in the
same year in the month of .... immediately before the British
army came to Charlotte in this County, he was called upon
and joined the American forces under Genl. Davidson near 
Charlotte, does not distinctly recollect at this time the Captain
he was under the immediate command of at the time of joining
the  army, but recollects that immediately after the British came
into Charlotte and the Americans commenced their retreat.  This
applicant was placed on the same guard.  That covered the
the retreating army and served under a variety of officers as he
continued on the guard until the passed over the Yadkins
river before he was relieved and shortly after being discharged
returned home, was on this tour about three or four
weeks.  The foregoing services were all rendered as a volunteer
Minute Man under the regulations there in force in the
County of Mecklenburg.  There is no person living in the 
immediate vicinity of this applicant who has personal knowledge
of the above facts.
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He was next drafted for a three months tour same year as he believes
in the months of ..... is certain it was about the same Genls. Green. Small-
wad and Morgan.  Were encamped at six mile creek in this
County was attached to and marched under Capt. Matt McKnight as
his captain.  Joined the Army at six mile creek, a detachment
being required to guard the pass of the old Nation ford on the
Catawba river.  Volunteered to serve in said detachment and
served the remainder of his tour under Capt. Martain discharged and 
returned home.
   He was again drafted about a week or 10 days after the battle
the Eutan Spring.  Marched under Captain James Osburn, Lieutenant
Thomas Downs, Ensign.... Potts.  And advanced at Little river under
Col Robert Irwin, marched on the Wilmington campaign, served 
out the tour, was discharged and no more called upon.
    Has no documentary evidence in which service he served
more three months.  He hereby relinquishes every claim 
whatsoever to a pension or annuity
except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension
roll of the agency of any State.
    Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
He hereby relinquishes any claim to 
a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is 
not in the pension roll of the agency of any State.  Sworn to an 
subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
Allan Herron
    We Thomas Downs and James Knox do hereby certify that we are
well acquainted with Allen Herron and has subscribed and seem to
the above declaration an that we believe him to be seventy-four
years of age an that we do know he was a revolutionary 
soldier an we served with him sworn to an subscribed the day
and year above written.
Thos Downs
James Knox
    And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the
investigation of the matter and after putting the investigation
subscribed by the loan department, that the above named 
applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states
and the court further certifies that Thomas Downs and James
Knox who has singed the same as residents in this County are
creditable persons and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I Isaac Alexander, Clerk of the Court of pleas & quarter affairs
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for the County of Mecklenburg do hereby certify that the fore
going contains the original proceeding of the said court of the 
matter of application of Allen Herron for a pension in testimony
Where as I have herewith set my hand & seal of office this day an
year above written
Isaac Alexander Clerk




8143
Allen Herron
Sep 25,
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November 7, 1933
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Allan Herron - S.7001
BA-J/AWF

Mrs. Thomas L. Millwee
1047 Queens Road, West
Charlotte, North Carolina

Dear Madam:

     The data furnished herein were obtained from
the papers on file in pension claim, S.7001, based
upon the Revolutionary War service of Allan Herron.

     The date and place of his birth are not shown,
nor are the names of his parents given.

     Allan Herron volunteered in Mecklenburg County,
North Carolina in 1780 and served as minute man 
under Captain Ezra Alexander and Colonel Alexander,
eight or ten days in pursuit of Tories; under Cap-
tain William Alexander about ten days; three or 
four weeks under General Davidson; three months under
Captains Robert McKnight and Martain.  He enlisted
about one week after the battle of Eutaw Springs and 
served three months in Captain James Osburn's com-
pany, Colonel Robert Irwin's regiment.  All of his
service was with the North Carolina troops.

     Allan Herron was allowed pension on his appli-
cation executed, April 31, 1832, at which time he was
aged seventy-four years and a resident of Mecklen-
burg County, North Carolina.

     There are no data in the claim relative to
the family of Allan Herron.

     In order to obtain the date of the last payment of
pension, the name and address to whom sent, and pos-
cibly the date of death of the pensioner, you should
apply to The Comptroller General, General Accounting
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Office, Records Division, Washington, D. C., citing
all of the following data--

Allan Herron
Certificate No. 12172
Issued April 3, 1833
Rate $34.78 per annum
To commence March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
North Carolina Agency.

Very truly yours


A. D. Hiller
Assistant to Administrator
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Apr 1199
Herron SS
Dixie, NC
1909 Darryl & Hist to Hon.
L . T. Overman V. Loh
1933- Nov. 7 - list to Mrs
Thomas L. Millnee - see
last letter in (illegible) Secy S-8594


7001
RevWar
INVALID
File No.  7001
Allan Herron
Priv Rev. War
Act: June 7th 1832
Index:--Vol. A eh, Page A69
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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BOARD OF EDUCATION
J. G. BAIRD, Chairman
W. S. PHARR     S. S. HERRON
R. B. HUNTER, Supervisor

Supervisor of Education, 
MECKLENBURG COUNTY
Dixie, N. C. Feb 27th 1899

Commissioner of Pension

Dear Sir

Please send me a statement of the services 
of Allen Herron Revolutionary pensioner
In 1835 the Secretary of War according to resolution
passed by U. S. Senate made his report entitled
"Senate Documents (Pension Roll) First Session
Twenty-Third Congress" in the third volume of 
this report on page 93 or 94.  I think you will 
find the name of Allen Herron of Mecklenburg Co.
N. C. pensioned for revolutionary services a copy of
which I am very anxious to receive being a
grandson of said Allen Herron.
Yours te,
S. S. Herron
P.O. Dixie
Co. Mecklenburg
State    North Carolina

Pension Office
U. S.
Mar 1 1899
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United States Senate,
Washington, D.C.

January 11, 1909


Commissioner of Pensions,

Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:

If consistent I shall be glad if you will give   [hand written in the margin] 9001
me the War Record of Allen Herron, of Mecklenberg County, 
North Carolina, a Revolutionary soldier, and oblige, 
Yours very truly,
Lee. S. Overman
U. S. S.
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Hon. Lee S. Overman
U.S. Senate.
My dear Senator:
   In reply to your letter dated the 11th and received the 12" instant, I have the honor to advise you that from the papers in the claim Sur. File No. 7001, it appears that Allen Herron volunteered in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, in 1780 and served as a Minute Man under Captain Ezra Alexander and Colonel Alexander, eight or ten days; under Captain William Alexander a week or ten days; under General Davidson, three or four weeks; under Captain s Robert McKnight and Martain, three months; and in 1781 under Captains James Osburn and Robert Irwin, over three months.
    He was allowed pension on an application executed August 31, 1833, while a resident of Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, at which time he was seventy - four years of age.

Very respectfully,

Commissioner
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November 7, 1833

James Gray S.8594 
Allan Herron S.7001
BA-J/AWF

Mrs. Thomas Millwee
1047 Queens Road, West 
Charlotte, North Carolina 

Dear Madam:

   Reference is made to your letter in which your request the Revolutionary War records of Valentine Bell, James Faucette, Thomas Graham, James Gray, Allen Herron, Hugh Woods, and John Woods all of North Carolina.

     Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims made to the United States for pension and bounty land, based upon military service of soldiers in that war.

      A search of the records fails to show such claims on file for a Thomas Graham, who served with the North Carolina troops, or of Valentine Bell,  James Faucette, Hugh Woods )Wood). In order to identify the record of the John Woods in whom you are interested, some of the following relative to him are essential- approximate dates of birth and death and places of residence at enlistment and after service.

     You are furnished herewith the records of James Gray and Allan Herron, as found in  claims for pension, based upon their service in the War of the Revolution.

Very truly yours,

A.D. Hiller
Assistant to Administrator
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BRIEF  objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Allen Herron Meckeleburg N. Carolina which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?  yes
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?  no
VI. Has he given the names of the officer under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?  yes
VII Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes
VII. Has the court given their opinion?  yes
IX. Has the clerk given his certificate? yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?  yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No Clergyman
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? yes
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
AS the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such as situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?


Explanatory Notes

Quere V.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason fo the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:  "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. Who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:  For___year____months, and ____days, I served as a ____ For ____ months and _____days, I served as a _____: and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying  expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, & c. without specifying the tours: he names of the officers and other particulars respecting their service.This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served: the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was preformed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
Quere XIV  Proof of Service
  In the case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
Quere XVI. Mode of authenticating papers
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is ot written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate mus be attached thereto by a piece of tape of narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached ot the certificate.

In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.