Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 30,787, Thomas White, Va.
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Va.
White, Thomas
S.30.787
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Va. White, Thomas S. 30,787
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State of Kentucky)
Adair County )SS

On this 6th day of November 1832 personally appeared 
in open Court, before the Justices of the Adair
County Court Thomas White aged 69 years, who being
first duly sworn according to law, doth, on his oath
make the following declaration, in order to obtain the
benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under
the following named officers & served as herein stated.
That he entered the service in the year 1780 under
Capt John Cottrell and performed service at
New London in Guarding the Tories. New London
was in Bedford County State of Virginia where
this applicant then lived. He continued guarding
said Tories between 10 & 20 days until they were carried away to
Richmond in Irons he then received his discharge
from Capt. Cottrell & went home, which discharge
has been long since lost so that it is & has been impossible
for him to find it. He states that in Jany
1781 he was drafted in the Militia under Capt Oaty[?] for
a three months tour he march from Bedford
County down through Petersburg Virginia, thence
on to Cabin Point there joined head quarters thence to Portsmouth Crossed
the Dismal Swamp on the Long Bridge near a
British fort. The regiment in which this applicant
was, was commanded by Gnl Mulenburg &
frequently Gel Matthews was with us. Col Thomas
Merewether & Maj. Decloman. At the time
he joined head quarters at Cabin Point he was
taken from under Capt Oaty[?] who commanded
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a rifle company owing to the circumstance
of his having no rifle & put under Capt
Cummins who was commander of a musket
Company. After he passed Portsmouth he was
stationed on an Island at a place called Edmund
Hill & there remained till sometime in March
following then marched to a place called Gregory
Camps in the State of North Carolina remained
there a few days then march and crossed
the Dismal Swamp where it was said to
be five miles wide on logs after we crossed
said Swamp he received his discharge from Cap Cummings in
writing which discharge is also lost so that he is
& has been unable to find it. The foregoing
tour was three months. That a few days after
his return home from the foregoing tour he was
drafted in the Militia under Capt Jacob Yerly
and marched from New London down into
Buckingham County & was there taken sick
and was permitted by the Captain to remain
until I could recover my health. After I recovered
started in to York where the company was
in had marched to and I met them on their
road home they had all been discharged from
the tour of three months for which they had been
drafted and Capt Yerly gave me a discharge
the first time I saw him which discharge is also
lost so that he is & has been unable to find it.
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He states that he was born in Bedford County
State of Virginia on the 15th day of March
1763. That he has a record of his age at his
residence in this County. That he lived in
the State of Virginia 5 or 6 years after he had
performed the service as stated then removed to
Kentucky & settled in the County of Fayette lived
there about 7 years, then removed to Adair
County the place where he now lives. That
he was drafted each and every time he entered
the service. He states that he has no documentary
evidence and no person living in Kentucky who
can testify to his service except James Bramlett
who resides about 10 miles from here and that
he has started down to see
said Bramlett and was turned back by high waters in Short
time Bramlett come up for this applicant to go down &
testify to his services he processed the certificate of
said Bralett which was sworn to before a
Justice of the Peace of this County which he was
compelled to do owing to the circumstance of Court
not being in session at the time he Bramlett was
here and which certificate is herewith filed.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to
a pension except the present, and declares that his
name is not on the pension roll of the agency of
any state.
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Thomas White
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Chasteen H Trabue a clergyman residing in Adair
County State of Ky & Nathan Gaither residing in
the same County hereby certify that we are well acquainted with
Thomas White who has subscribed & sworn to the
above declaration that we believe him to be 69
years of age that he is reputed & believed in the
neighbourhood where he resides to have been a
soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in
that opinion.

Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Chasteen H. Trabue
Nathan Gaither

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion
after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the
interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the
above named applicant was a revolutionary
soldier and served as he states. And the Court
further certified that it appears to them that Chasteen 
Trabue who has signed the preceeding certificate
is a clergyman resident in the County of Adair
and that Nathan Gaither who has also signed the same
is a resident in the County of Adair and is a
credible person, and that their statement is entitled
to credit.

Kentucky, Adair County Sct

I William Caldwell Clerk of the County Court for
the County aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contain
the original proceedings of the said court in the matter
of the application of Thomas White,Sr. for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand
and the seal of said Court, this 10th day of
November 1839.

Wm Caldwell
(seal)
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By way of amendment to fulfil the requisition of 
the war Department the declarant states that he is
known in his neighbourhood by Chasteen H Trabue
the Clergyman who has subscribed sworn to the
certificate annexed to his original declaration
and also to Nathan Gaither who has subscribed
& sworn to to same. & who have, can & will at
any time testify as to my character for veracity
that they believe I was a soldier in the Revolution

Thomas White

At a county court began an hold for the
County of Adair of the Courthouse in Columbia on
Monday the 6th day of May 1833 this amended
declaration of Thomas White for a pension has
produced in open Court subscribed & Sworn to
by said Thomas White, and the court declared
their opinion that the facts stated in said
amendment are true
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Personally appeared before me the undersigned a
Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Adair
& State of Ky Thomas White who being duly sworn,
deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age and
the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively 
as to the precise length of his service, but
according to the best of his recollection he served
not less than the periods mentioned below and in
the following grades; for six months and ten
days I served as a private in the malitia service
and for such service I claim a pension
this 6th May 1833
Daniel Suddarth J.P.
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Adair County Kentucky

Personally appeared before Daniel
Trabue a Justice of the Peace in and for the
County of Adair, James Bramblet of the
County of Breckenridge and State
aforesaid and made oath to the
truth of the following statements
in relation of the service of Thomas
White as a soldier of the Revolution
for a pension.
This affiant states that he and
Thomas White were raised in
the same neighbourhood 
together in Bedford County Virginia.
That in the year 1778 the said
Thomas White & himself drafted in the
militia and entered the army
under Captain Oaty to serve a three
months tour which said tour they
did serve. Though in consequence
of the said White having no rifle
he was attached to the Musquet Company
of Capt Cummings
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Mathews & Maj Mughlenberg were our
our Generals.  Thomas [illegible] was the
Colonel, and Declaman the
Major to the best of my recollection.
Sworn[?] by my hand & seal this
14th day of Sept 1832.
Daniel Trabue  (seal)
James Bramlitte

The above statement was sworn to before
me, at my offer the aforesaid
date witness my hand & seal.

Daniel Trabue (seal)

Kentucky Adair County Sct.

I William Caldwell Clerk of the County Court
for the County aforesaid do certify that Daniel Trabue
whose signature is annexed to the above certificate
and before whom the above and foregoing statement of
James Bramlitte appears to have been sworn to, now
is and was at the date of said certificate an acting
Justice of the peace in said County, and a member
of the Adair County Court, and that said Signature
is the genuine signature of said Daniel
Trabue[signature obscured by seal], Esquire.

In Testimony is whereof I have hereunto
set hand and affixed the seal of my
office this 10th day of November 1832

Wm Caldwell
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Adair County Ky

The affidavit of Daniel Trabue taken before
Daniel Suddarth a Justice of the Peace in & for
the County aforesaid. This affiant states that
he is the identical person before whom the
affidavit hereto annexed was taken but that
he has since that time gone out of office
being the oldest magistrate in the County and
the office of Sheriff being vacated he was
regularly commissioned sheriff of the afsd.  County
by the Governor of Ky. and is now acting sheriff
of sd. County that he would if he had known it
was required by the Department have certified, the credibility of J.. Bramblet He now states
that James Bramblet who has subscribed & sworn
to the affidavit hereto annexed which was done before me
whilst I was an acting Justice of the peace in &
for the Afsd. County is a credible man and
that the utmost reliance may be place upon
his statements. I make this statement from my
long acquaintance & knowledge of sd. Bramblett
Witness
my hand & seal this 18th day of April 1833.
Daniel Trabue (seal)


Adam County Sct.

This day personally appeared before me Daniel
[illegible sentence] peace
under the
of and for the afsd. County Daniel Trabue
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and made oath to the truth of the statements
made in the foregoing affidavit that the
affiant Daniel Trabue is a credible
person and his statements are entitled to
Credit. Given under my hand & seal
this 16th day of April 1833

Daniel Suddarth JP (seal)

Kentucky & Adair County Sct.

I William Caldwell Clerk of
the county court for the County aforesaid do
certify that the foregoing contains the original
proceedings of said court in relation to the
amendment of the said Thomas White
in the matter of his application for a
pension. I do further certify that Daniel
Suddarth, Esq. before whom the foregoing
affidavit of said Thomas White & Daniel
Trabue were taken is and was at the
time of making the same a Justice
of the peace in and for Adair County
duly qualified and commissioned to
act as such and that the signatures
to said affidavits, are the genuine signature,
of said Daniel Suddarth.

(seal) In testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand and 
affixed the seal of said Court
this20th day of May 1883
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REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION.  3 - 525
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C.,...19...

In reply to your request of...received...
for a statement of the military history of Thomas White
a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension
on file in this Bureau.
DATES OF
ENLISTMENT OR
APPOINTMENT.
[illegible]
LENGTH OF
SERVICE.
[illegible]
RANK.
Pvt.
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN.
John Cottrell
[illegible]
COLONEL.
Thomas Harrinton
STATE.
Va. 

Battles engaged in,...
Residence of soldier at enlistment, ...[illegible]
Date of application for pension, ...[illegible]
Residence at date of application, ...[illegible]
Age at date of application, Bedford Co....[illegible]
Remarks: ...[illegible]

5 -- 2856
Respectfully,

Commissioner.
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Omaha Nebr.
Jan. 8, 1918

Commission of Pensions
Washington, D.C. 

Dear Sirs, Can you
give me any record of the
War Service of Thomas
White, during the Revololution.
The Court records
of Adair Co. Kentucky show
that he applied for
pension.
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Thomas White applied for Pension
at Columbia Kentucky, in
Adair County about 1833. He
probably was a private, for there
is no officers record
He lived in
Adair County until his death,
About 1820. I do not know his
widows name, but his children
Thomas White - Eldest son
Lucinda - Eldest daughter
James B. White
Athea White
Edward F White
Ambrose White
Stephen White.

I would greatly appreciate
any information you can obtain
for me. 
Mrs Roger Holman
4923 Burt St
Omaha
Nebr.
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RECORD PERSON OFFICE
AUG 26 1897
491238
WAR DEPARTMENT

Cincinnati Ohio
Aug. 22, 1897.
Thomas White
Lt Capt. from M. or Ohio Reg't Rev War

Mrs. John W. Dall
1773, Forrest Avenue
Asks whether there is
record of above named
Incl
[received stamp] U.S. PENSION OFFICE SEP 3 1897
(515)


Address: "Chief of the Record and Pension Office,
War Department, Washington, D. C."

Record and Pension Office,
WAR DEPARTMENT,
Washington, August 27, 1897.

Respectfully returned to

Mrs. John W. Dale,
No. 1773 Forrest Avenue,
Cincinnati, Ohio.

This Department is unable to
identify the record of your ancestor
from the data furnished by you.
The pension records of the Revolutionary
war, as of all wars in
which the country has been engaged,
are filed in the office of the Commissioner
of Pensions, Washington, D.C., 
whose office is separate and
distinct from the Record and Pension
Office of the War Department.

It is suggested that you apply to
the Commissioner of Pensions for the
information necessary to the identification
of the record of your ancestor, 
and that you then renew your application
to this office for a statement 
of his military service.

The two-cent postage stamp received
with your letter is herewith returned.

[received stamp] U.S. PENSION OFFICE SEP 3 1897

(One inclosure.)
BY AUTHORITY OF THE SECRETARY of WAR
F. C. Ainsworth
Per
(800a)
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1773 Forrest Avenue,
Cuminati, Ohio,
Aug 30th 1897.

Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

My dear Sir:-
I send herewith a letter which I ad
dressed to the Adjutant General, together
with his reply. The contents will explain
itself. Will you kindly give the matter
your earliest convenient attention, and
let me hear from you.

[received stamp] U.S. PENSION OFFICE  SEP 3 1897

With thanks for your kindness,
Very sincerely yours,
Mrs John W. Dale
(Please return inclosures)
P.S. after writing the above I found in a
List of Revolutionary pensioners
who have resided in Ohio" which was
given in the year book of the "Sons
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of the American Revolution for
'96-'97 the following record:
(name) Thomas White (County) BeLmont
(Rank) Captain and Ensign
Virginia Militia (when placed
in pension roll, May 3rd 1834
(under Act of Congress) June 7, 1832.

I feel quite sure that this
must be the history of my ancestor's
pension. Do you think this record
is at all identical with what I
gave to the Adjutant General in
the enclosed letter, which I obtained
from Hamersby's roster? I
know that my great great grandfather
lived in Virginia at the
time of the war, and he must
have enlisted in Va. I also know
that he removed to Ohio after the
close of the war settling either
in St. Clairville or Leesburg,
I am not certain which place.
I shall be greatly obliged to you
for any help you may give me in
this matter. 
In haste, Mrs. J.W. Dale
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2 [cent] stamp attached
[received stamp] U.S. PENSION OFFICE SEP 3 1897

1773 Forest Avenue,
Cincinnati, Ohio,
August 22nd '97.


Adjutant General U.S.A.
Washington, D.C.

My dear Sir:
I am desirous of obtaining membership
in the Society of Daughter of
the American Revolution, and I am
basing my claims through my great-great 
grandfather, Thomas White.
My grand mother informs me that
he was captain in the Revolutionary War
and that he afterwards drew a pension.
I have looked at the poster and find
three persons by the name of Thomas
White one from Mass. one from Pa. and
one from Virginia. This last I take to
be my great-great grandfather, if any,
as my grand mother knows that he and
all his people were originally Virginians,
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having lived there as early [illegible]29,
but after the close of the war we have
record that he and another brother
came into Ohio and settled either
in Leesburg or St. Clairsville, where
he drew his pension from one of the
other of these places. She is not sure
whether he enlisted in Virginia or
Ohio, neither is she certain where he
had been living at the time his death
occurred. The record in the roster
reads as follows: "Virginia - White,
Thomas, 2nd Lieutenant 1st Virginia
State Regiment 7th December, 1778,
1st Lieutenant 13 August, and served to
January, 1782." I find no record
of any Captain Thomas White, as
both of these other men by the same
name bear the same title of Lieutenant, 
yet my Grand mother is very
sure he was called Captain. She remembers
one incident that might
help to establish the facts. He had a
man in his company by the name
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[received stamp] U.S. PENSION OFFICE SEP 3 1897

of "Weir", and it was through his
testimony, which was obtained quite
accidently, that he secured his pension
with a goodly sum of "back-pay".
I have never looked up the name of
"Weir" in the roster, but think if the
two names our together in the same
company the fact would be
rather significant; dont you think?

I have written to persons whom
I suppose to be descendants living
near Leesburg, but can obtain no reply
I also wrote to Lawyers in St. Clairville, O., 
asking that they look up the
pension list of Revolutionary soldiers
there, thinking to find the place
of enlistment, regiment, company
etc., and something of his war record.
I enclose the letter that you may
see their reply, and I write to you
as per suggestion of Col. Charles North
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[stamp] RECORD & PENSION OFFICE AUG 26 1897  WAR DEPARTMENT

I hardly think the man "Weyr"
referred to by Col. Charles North is identical
with the "Weir" we have always
associated with Grand father White,
although Grand father While was also
in the War of 1812.

Can you assist me in any way
in establishing this record, or show
me how I can proceed for myself. If
you have access to the pension list
of Revolutionary soldiers, can you
not ascertain for me whether there
was a Thomas White who enlisted
either in Virginia or Ohio, who
served as Captain (or Lieutenant)
and after the War drew a pension
at either St. Clairsville or Leesburg, Ohio

I trust I am not asking too much of
you, and shall be greatly obliged for any interest
you may take in the matter. Will you
kindly give it your earliest convenient attention
and let me hear from you as soon as possible.

Very sincerely yours,

Mrs. John W. Dale

Please return the enclosed letter
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Sept 16/97 Mrs. John W.
Dale, Cincinnati, Ohio. 
1918 Jany 18  Hist to Mrs. Roger Holman

30787
INVALID
Rvry
File No....30,787
Thomas White
Prv  Rev  War

Act: June 7 32
Index:--Vol. L...Page...449

(Arrangement of 1870)
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OFFICE of
A. H. & W. MITCHELL,
Attorneys-at-Law

MITCHELL BUILDING

OVER DOLLAR SAVINGS BANK

St Clairsville, O. 8/18 1887

Miss Addie B Leach Dale
Cin-  Ohio
[received stamp]U.S. PENSION OFFICE SEP 3 1897

Dear Addie,

Yours of the 16th rec'd, there is no
Pension list of the Revolutionary
Soldiers at St. Clairsville, All pensions
were paid direct from Washington DC
prior to the late war,  & all
records were burned by the British
that might show his enlistment, there
can be nothing, perhaps, that can be
found in Ohio Records anywhere
for Ohio was a part of Virginia
at that time. If there was a
man by the name of Weir in your
Great Great Grandfather's Co. there is nothing
short of the Washington D.C. or Richmond, Va
 records, likely to show it, there was
a man by the name of "Wyer" not "Weir"
used to live here, who was in the
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war of 1812, so we are informed by
Col. J F Charlesworth of this place &
he knows more about all such
matters as these, than any other
man here. He says for you to
write the Adutant General at
Washington D.C. or the Adt Gen.
of Richmond Va. & possibly you
can get what you want through
them, especially as to Capt. Thomas
White whose name may be found
on the pension list. stating where
he lived, when he enlisted & when
he lived when he drew his pension
Sorry can not help you further in the
matter, will do I remember Emma [illegible]
our old school mate, & our happy days of childhood. 
And she is now his, Dale & your
Mother! Alf is not at home, but
for him as well as myself, I send
your mother, grand-mother & to you
all my kindest regards. Glad to hear
that Mrs. Houseman is still living, hope
she is enjoying reasonably good health, for one
of her age. 


Very Truly Yours
Wilson Mitchell,

[stamp]RECORD & PENSION OFFICE AUG 26 1897 WAR DEPARTMENT  49123
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Thos. White
Ken

[illegible] Private
6 mo. 10 days
$21.12/100

Upton Miller
Columbia Tenn
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those
answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of 
Thomas White  which require
further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason
assigned for his not doing so?

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes

V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he
served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout of pension
he is entitled? No

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of
June 7, 1832? Yes

VII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished
from any other seal? yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to
their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary
service? Yes

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtain
ing it?

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one
living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? Witness

XIV. +If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness
or witnesses as to his service? to part of his service? to part of his service
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath,
certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? No
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the
regulations direct? Yes

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age,
as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes

XVI. ++Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? Yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And,
if not, which of them is not so answered? 7.

EXPLANATORY NOTES.
*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how
long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he
cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection
he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For...year
...months, and...days, , I served as adays
, I served as a.... For... months and...days, I served as a...;  and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served,
and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the
pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, 
and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions
merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the
officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. 
It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration
of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the
applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either
in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed
in any civil pursuit.

+QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must
prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of
the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the
regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths
must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate
must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

++QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not
written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate
must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass
under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly
attached to the certificate.

>>In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the
certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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Columbia)
May 20)
Pension Claims


Hon J L Edward
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington City


Ky [illegible]
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Columbia May 18 ??23

Dear Sir

Enclosed you will find the pension claims of Thomas White and Thomas Branan with the amendments required.  Acrual thru to Columbia.

Upton Miller