Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 19321, for John Scribner, New York
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SERVICE [left hand margin]
NUMBER [right hand margin]
New York [written by hand in the "SERVICE" column]
Scribner, John, Eve [written by hand in the center column, which does not contain a heading]
W.19321 [written by hand in the "NUMBER" column]
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CONTENTS [Typed below the double line in the left margin. There are several lines provided on the bottom of the card but no other text or writing.]
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Dead
Letter to Hon A Smith. 3d Feb 1845.
do. to A Ray  29 April 1845
do. to R Johnson Aug 23d 1849

repo

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New York 4124
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Eve Scribner
widow of John Scribner
who died on the 15 Oct 1825
of Genesee Co. in the State of NY
who was a Pri in the Co commanded
by Captain [blank] of the reg commanded
by [blank] in the New York 
line for 14 mo 5 ds
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Inscribed on the Roll of Albany
at the rate of 47 Dollars 22 Cents 
per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
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Certificate of Pension issued the 7 day of Dec 1844 and sent to Hon Albert Smith St Reps
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Arrears to the 4th of 
Semi-annual allowance ending

{Revolutionary Claim
{Act July 4, 1836,
{Section the [illegible]

Recorded by F. L. Swann Cler.
Book C    Vol. 1  Page 128
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State of New York
Genesee county ss     On this tenth day of March 1840 personally appeared before me William Mitch[blurred]  Just Judge of Genesee County  Eve Scribner aged eighty years a resident of the town of Attica in the said County of Genesee in the State of New York who being Just duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed July 4th 1836
That She is the widow of John Scribner who was a private in the Revolutionary army Serving under militia officers (as she believes) of the State of New York  But She has no recollection of the names of the officers under whom he served nor is she certain of the length of time he served but she believes that  She relies upon the proofs hereto annexed in support of her ClaimShe was married to the Said John Scribner on the 16th day of September 1782 and before the close of the last term of Service of the Said John Scribner that She has no record of said that said marriage took place in the town of Pittstown in the county of Rensselaer in the State of New York.  That her husband the aforesaid John Scribner died on the 15th day of October 1825 and that she has remained a widow ever since that period and that She is still the widow of the Said John Scribner.
Sworn to and Subscribed on the day and year just above writen [sic] before me 
William Mitchell
Just Judge of Genesee County

Eve Scribner
her  X  mark

I William Mitchell Just Judge of Genesee County do certify that Eve Scribner who made and subscribed the foregoing Declaration before me cannot write her
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name never having learned to write (as she says) And I do further Certify that the Said Eve Scribner from age and inability is unable to attend court and that the foregoing Declaration was made Subscribed and Sworn to at her residence in the town of Attica in the said County of Genesee.

Dated March 10th 1840
William Mitchell
Just Judge of Genesee county 

Genesee County } ss
Clerks office}

[wavey vertical lines crossing out entry]
I Horace U Sipas Clerk of the Said County do
hereby Certify that William Mitchell Esqr before whom the annexed declaration was subscribed
and whom here subscribed the annexed certificate  or sworn was at the time the above declaration 
and certificate bears date the first Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the Said County and further that I am well 
acquainted with his hand writing and that the Signature of above Certificate and declaration are his genuine Signatures

[wavey vertical lines crossing out entry]
State of New York} ss.
Genesee County}
I Horace U Sipas clerk of the Just County do hereby certify that William Mitchell Esqr before whom the annexed declaration and [illegible]
Subscribed the annexed Certificate was taken  was at [illegible] time

State of New York}
Genesee county ss. }
I Certify that William Mitchell before whom the foregoing declaration was Sworn was at the time of taking the Same first Judge of genes County and that his Signature above Subscribed are his hand writing

In testimony whereof I have hereunto Subscribed my name ad affixed my official Seal the 22 January 1841
H. U. Soper Clerk of  Genesee County
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[title page of New Testament with names written on it]

THE
NEW TESTAMENT
OF OUR 
LORD AND SAVIOUR
JESUS CHRIST

Translated out of
THE ORIGINAL GREEK,
and with the
FORMER TRANSLATIONS DILIGENTLY COMPARED AND REVISED.

[illegible ] Scribner [illegible]  
May 26 [illegible]   married to
Catharine Colneay 20
1804
Catharine Scribner 
born September 15 17??
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lietssa S born Feb 16 1805

abigil  S  Born Decmber 27 1808

elsa S  born December 26 1810

Charlotte S  born December 3? 1812

thomas t  S born november 18 1816

Horvyllce S  born March 1 1816

amaryllis S born ?April 23 1809

John S born november 15 1821

?eue  S born march 1 1823

Andrew  S  born Jun 12 1825

Charleslott  S born Feb 3 1831
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Copy of a record in the family bible of Andrew Scribner

" Andrew Scribner born May 26th 1748 (1784)"
"Married to Catharine Cole  May 20th 1804."
Catharine Scribner born September 15 1784

Belssa S. Born Feb 14 1805
Abigail S  December 27  1808
Elsa  S. Born December 26 18010 [sic]
Charlotte S Born December 30  1812
Thomas J  S  born November 18 1814
rylla S born March 1 1816
Amaylla  S  born August 23  1819
John S born November 15 1821
eve S born March 1 1823
Andrew S born Jun 23 1825
Carles lott  S born Feb 3 1831

State of New York}
Wyoming County} ss.

Andrew Scribner son of John & Eve Scribner being duly sworn before & by me this 7th day of July 1843 deposes & saith that he has kept a record of the births in his family in a family bible kept by him that he has owned the said Bible for as near as he can recollect twenty years  that he owned two other Bibles previous to his purchase of the one above 
mentioned __ that the first bible contained a record in part of the births in his family & a full record up to a time not now by him recollected when it was consumed with his 
dwelling house & other effects__ that he then purchased a new bible & transferred the records from the bible and also entered such births on record as occurred while he owned it__ thus burnt to ? New bible which last mentioned bible was 
also consumed with his dwelling & effects__that he purchased the bible from which the  foregoing list of births is a copy soon after [illegible] transferred the record of his former bible [illegible] and that the above is an exact copy of a record kept by him in his said last purchased bible___that he further deposes that he has one sister older than himself who was the first born
of his fathers family whose name is now Jane Dailey    
Andrew Scribner

Subscribed & sworn before me this 7th day of July 1843    
John ? Landon
Justice of the Peace
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State of New York}
Wyoming County} ss

I do hereby certify that John D. Landon Esquire before whom the within affidavit was taken, was, at the date thereof, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly authorized to take the same__ And that I am well acquainted with this hand writing and verily believe that the within signature purporting to be his is genuine__

In witness whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed my official Seal, at Warsaw, in said County this 8th day of July 1843__
Nelson Wolcott Clerk of Wyoming County
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State of New York ⎬
Wyoming Co ⎬ ss
I certify that Andrew Scribner this day presented the with the bible conterney [?] his family record to which is the bible refered to by him in his affidavit following the fore going "copy of a record in the family bible of Andrew Scribner" that I transcribed the said record for the said Andrew Scribner and that the copy above refered to is a True Copy Verbatim and literature of the original in his said bible - and to all appearance the original entries were made at or about the time the events recorded occurred - as set forth by him in his said affidavit - & I have no doubt of the truth of his affidavit or of the record of which the foregoing is a copy -
John D Landon
Justice of the Peace
of said County
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Miss Eve Scribner
Power of Attorney
to
A. L. Lyne
Warsaw
N. Y.

[round stamp]
CASTLE N Y 
FEB 7
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Know all men by these presents that I Eve Scribner of the Town of Castile in the county of Wyoming and State of New York do hereby constitute and appoint Albertus L. Lynde of Warsaw in the County & State aforesaid my only true and lawful Attorney for me and in my name to prosecute my claim to a pension from the United States on account of the Service of John Scriber my husband.
Dated February 6, 1844
Eve Scribner
Her  X  mark

Signed and delivered in presence of 
Alonzo B. Rose
Andrew Scribner

State of New York}
Wyoming County } ss.
Be it know that on this 6 day of February 1844 personally came before the Subscriber a Judge of Wyoming County County Eve Scribner above named and acknowledged the above power of Attorney to her act and deed.

In witness whereof I have hereunto Subscribed my hand this 6 day of Feb 1844

Alonzo B. Rose a judge of Wyoming County Courts
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State of New York }
Wyoming County }  ss.

I, Walter Howard Clerk of Wyoming County do hereby Certify that Alonzo B. Rosa Esqr before whom the above Power of Attorney was taken and acknowledged was at the time of taking such acknowledgment and power of attorney a Judge of Wyoming County Courts duly authorized to take the same and that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and verify believe that  the signatures of said proof or acknowledgment is genuine.

In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official Seal, at Warsaw in said County this 19th day of February 1844
Walter Howard
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7569 [strikethrough]
5265

Eve Scribner

N. Y

Act 4 July, 1836.

admin

14. 50 / 22 

47.22 (4/.22)

Hon. A. Smith

H.R
[..... illegible...........strikethrough]

H. R.
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State of New York
Saratoga County ss

Be it remembered that on the Nineteenth day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Eight before me Abel Meeker a Justice of the Peace of said County appeared John Brown a resident of Said County  and made oath as follows to wit
I John Brown am Sixty nine years old I reside in the Town of Saratoga Springs in the County of Saratoga   I was well acquainted with John Scribner from his youth up to the time of his death which I am informed was about Thirteen years ago.  I was also well acquainted with Eve Race from her girlhood   They both resided in Pittstown Rensalaer County in the State of New York   I knew them well for four or five years before their marriage which too place (I am very positive) about the Last of September or first of October in the year 1782  I remember that I was then thirteen years old   I was present at their marriage it took place at my father House  the Ceremony was performed by Moses Hicks who I believe was a Minister of the Gospel  I knew the said John Scribner and the said Eve his wife to have lived together as Husband & wife for Eight or Ten years after their said marriage and I have always supposed that they so remained together till his death they had removed some distance from where I lived  I remember that the Said John Scribner was out in the time of the war and before he was married but I cannot tell how long I do not Know that he was in the Service but it was so understood and I heard him Say frequently that he had been out in the Service of the United States and I heard his Mother and their neighbors take about his having gone out to fight against the
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Red coats I think I heard it Talked of in the Neighborhood that the Said John Scribner was in the Service two or Three years and according to the best of my recollection he was gone at this time as many as two or three year
John Brown
Subscribed and sworn before me this 19th day of October 1838
A Meeker Justice

I hereby Certify that I am personally acquainted with the above named John Brown who has made oath of the above facts b before me and Certify that I believe him to be a man of good moral character and that his statement is Entitled to Credit  Oct 19th 1838
A Meeker Justice

[printed document with fill ins]
STATE OF NEW-YORK}
Saratoga County Clerk's Office} ss

I, Alpheus Goodrich, Clerk of the County of Saratoga, DO CERTIFY, That  Abel Meeker
before whom the annexed affidavit purports to have been sworn, was at the date of the same, one of the Justices of the Peace in and for said county, and that I am acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavit, to be his proper hand writing and signature.
WITNESS my hand and seal of Office, the 19th day of October 1838__
A. Goodrich Clerk

[image of round seal]
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State of N York }
County of Wyoming} ss.

On the 7th day of November one thousand eight hundred and forty two appeared before me Andrew Scribner and testified as  follows.
John Scribner was my Father,  I lived with him till I was Twenty years old & have frequently heard him relate his revolutionary adventure, & in these statements he frequently made mention of officers with whom he was familiar, Such as Capt Thomas Brown, Colonel Yates, Capt Livingston, Col Willett; It was my recollections of these Officer's names, that enabled them to find my Father's name in the Books of the Comptroller at Albany having failed in an attempt without them.
Andrew Scribner [signature]
Subscribed & Sworn before this 7th day of November 1842
John D. Landen
Justice of Peace

I certify that I have been well acquainted with Andrew Scribner for about six years and from that acquaintance believe the said Andrew Scribner to be a man of truth & veracity__
Dated [illegible] November 7 1842
John D Landen
Justice of the Peace
Wyoming Co N.Y__
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State of New York
Wyoming County
I do hereby certify that John D. Landon Esq before whom the within affidavit was taken, was at the time of taking such affidavit a Justice of the Peace of the said county, duly qualified and sworn, and authorized to take the same. And further that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe that his signature to the certificate of said affidavit is genuine 
In Witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affirmed my Official Seal at Warsaw, in said County, this 8th day of November 1849
Nelson Wolcott Clerk
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[printed document with fill ins]

STATE OF NEW-YORK, }
Rensselaer County Clerk's Office, } ss.

I, LELAND CRANDALL, Clerk of the County of Rensselaer, do herby Certify, that Christopher Snyder __Esquire, whose name is subscribed to the annexed Deposition as, at the time the above Deposition purports to have been taken____ one of the Justices of the Peace in and for said County:  And further, that I am acquainted with the hand-writing of said Christopher Snyder and verily believe the above signature to be genuine.  
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of said County, this Eleventh day of March 1839

Leland Crandall  Clerk. [signature]
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This day came before me one of the Justices of the Peace in and for the County of Rensselaer in the State of New York. John Andrew Clerk of the Town on Pittstown in said county deposeth and saith on oath. That he has examine the Records of said Town in said County and that there is no record of the marriage  of John Scribner to Eve Scribner within is than a record to be found of the marriag mony of any other persons on the Records in said Town of Pittstown
Subscribe and sworn 
to before this 
11 Day of March 1899
Christopher Snider Justice
Job Andrews
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14th Nov 1842

Lco? Crump

[Stamp ....CAST...NOV...N.Y ]

Eve Scribner

Mr J L Edwards Esqr

Commissioner of Pensions

Washington D.C.
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In Castile 8th Nov 1842
In your answer you directed me to a letter of the  8th September 1841 to William Mitchell Esq, in which you state that parole testimony is indispensable to prove that the husband of Eve Scribner was the individual who served in the several companies & Regiments indicated in the Comfitrollers Certificate. We have made an essay to answer that end, by the enclosed Affidavit of Andrew Scribner & if that is not Sufficient, we shall be under the necessity of going three hundred miles, if possible, to find some Suvoiver who can tell as much or more about it. It is farther Stated that the approximation of the alledged date of the marriage to the termination of her late husband's alledged Service will render it necessary to establish the date by some record in order to bring her case within the Act of July 4, 1989. To give information on this point I enclose an Affidavit of John Brown of Ballstown Saratoga Co. It appears from that, which corresponds with what Mrs Scribner herself says, that there has been no record of their marriage unless it may have been a private one by the itinerant preacher who married them, & that is even uncertain. They tell me there was no record of their marriage kept in their family. As far as I am acquainted it is not customary to have public record of marriages either in Church or State. These records are however generally kept by families themselves but it seems in this case it was omitted. 
You ask has she married again? her family say not, and she now goes by the name of her husband Scribner. I used her maiden name in the letter I wrote to you. Seeing it in the Affidavit of John Brown
With all due respect
Wm H Snyder
NB If it can be of any use in her case Mrs Scribner can state, though she recollects only a few things, what time in the year she was married, by whom, the time between her marriage & the birth of her first child, & the age of her first child, & that after her marriage her husband went to Albany to get his discharge & when he returned brought along with him several articles for clothing. 
WH Snyder
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In the matter of
Eve Scribner
Additional Proof

Wm Mitchell
Agent__
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State of New York ⎬ 
Genesee County ⎬ ss  On the sixth day of May
one thousand eight hundred & forty one before the undersigned a Justice of the Peace of the said County Came Andrew Scribner and made Oath in due form of Law, that he is son of John Scribner a sold of the revolutionary war - That he has frequently heard his said Father state that he served as a soldier in the army of the Revolution under the command of Captain Thomas Brown has heard him speak frequently of incidents of this war, in which he was engaged as a soldier - has also heard him mention the names of Captain Gates & Livingston as connected with the military movements and also the names of Col John Harper - always understood his services were rendered towards the close of the war, in what years does not recollect. That his said Father died about sixteen years ago according to his best recollection - that he does not recollect now so as to specify the particular services in which he stated he was engaged, but is positive of his making statements that he was in the service under Command of Captain Thomas Brown and has heard him mention several instances when he was engaged in active service - That the reputation of of the said John Scribner for truth & veracity was good and the said Andrew Scribner has no doubt but from what he has heard his said Father John Scribner may
at various times & occasions before his Death that he was for some Considerable time engaged as a private in the army of the revolution & in the Company under Command of the said Thomas Brown -  The said Andrew Scribner further states his age to be 54 Years - he also further states that he has heard the sd John Scribner say that his services were not wholly rendered under the said Captain Tho. Brown but that he had served one or more tours or terms as he termed, it under other officers.
Sworn & subscribed before me }  Andrew Scribner
the day & Year first your written }
John D. Sandern
Justice Peace
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I certify that I am well acquainted with Andrew Scribner who subscribed & swore to the truth of this within statement and believe him to be a man of Good moral character and that his statements subscribed and sworn 
to within are entitled to full credit

Carlile May 6 1841
John D. Lander[Landau?] Justice of the
Peace of Genesee County

State of New York,    
                               } SS.
Genesee County,


I certify that John D Lander[Landau?] Esq.
who has subscribed the preceding affidavit [transcript has been strikethrough]at the date of the same [judgement has been strikethrough] therein mentioned, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County of Genesee

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of the Court of Common Pleas of said county, this   
8    day of         May       1841


Fees 25 Cents [Signature ] Clerk of Genesee County.
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Dec 6/43

Add ....... case of 

Eve Scribner

Mr J L Edwards Edgar 

Commissioner of Pensions 

Washington D.C
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                         Castile Nov. 30th 1843.

Sir

In your last you refer me to the Comptroller for the information I ask. But I think, when we have been at the trouble & expense of
going to Albany & getting information to put into your hands, it is
justly ours: & if you are, as you always subscribe yourself, "very respectfully
your obedient servant" you could have no objections to giving me the information which I ask from the Comptroller's Certificate. I see nothing in your rules to restrict you from
granting the request I made. What I wanted was, to know whether there was any more than one John Scribner, on the the list certified to by the Comptroller. & I am now prepared
to say on other testimony than what I have obtained from the department of War, that there was no John Scribner, who had
served with Captain Brown Colonel Yates &c. as stated in the
Certificate of the Comptroller, beside the John Scribner who was the husband of Eve Scribner in whose behalf I am now engaged. & I have not been able to learn that there was at that time, when Scribner did his service, any other
John Scribner in that vicinity. What then does your objection amount to that the depositions of Joseph Brown does not cover all the services that John Scribner rendered in t he revolutionary war? Joseph Brown says that Scribner & himself were enlisted in separate branches of the revolutionary Army at the same time, so that they seldom saw each other [ink blot] while the war continued, & he only specifies in his testimony what he saw, not
what he knew, because known by all who knew Scribner
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Joseph Brown says that John Scribner the husband of Eve Scribner, served under a number of Officers a certain time
in which he served with him; & the records of the State give John Scribner Credit for service under the same officers not two or more of that name. If there were more than
one testified to, there would be something necessary to specify who was the proper claimant for benefit of the service; but
when there is only one, & when one witness says he knew of his serving under certain officers,.& when the records of the
State give him credit for more service that this witness knows of, how can that invalidate the testimony of either? & especially when the witness says that they served in seperate
branches of the Army at the same time?
In your letters of the 8th September 1841 to Judge Mitchell you state
that "it is necessary to prove by parole testimony, in the case of Eve Scribner that her late husband was the individual
who served in the companies & Regiments indicated in the Comptrollers certificate. " This your demand we have complied with, & it is in evidence that John Scribner did serve under the officers specified by the Comptroller. You say the witness does not specify all the time the Comptroller does.
& if you look for two witnesses to state precisely the same thing,you will not be likely to find them in this, nor any other case.
& unless we cut instead of untying the knot, I can not imagine how, from the testimony before you, we can draw any other conclusion
than that the John Scribner pointed out both by the Comptroller & Joseph Brown is the same, & the late husband
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of Eve Scribner who claims a pension for his Service.  The applicant Widow is very needy, & I fully believe from the testimony I have seen in her case, entitled to the pension she claims.  & in her behalf, I would respectfully urge you to review all the testimony & see whether you can not conclude in her favor.  I likewise inclose the record of the family of Andrew Scribner one of the children of John Scribner, of which you have a copy .
With the utmost respect your's
Wm H. Snyder
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Washington Dec. 4, 1844
Sir, Herewith I send you additional papers
in the case of Eve Scribner which with the
other please examined at your evilute commence
and I can but think the evidence furnished
in her case must be deemed sufficient
Let me call your attention also to
the cases of Hannah Paige, Stephen Bathrick
and Martha Sprague in each of which I forwarded you papers some time since- my Jack
your early attention to these cases"
I have the honor to be
my respectfully
your [illegible]al't 'sm't ??
Albert Smith

Hon. J. L. Edwards
Comr of Pensions
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Request for Photostating           3 - 2006   Ex. --(To be prepared in duplicate.)

OFFICE OF THE CHIEF CLERK

Job No. 2838                     Date Dec 31.25

Subject John Scribner  Rev. No 19321

1 copies of 2 pieces consisting of 3 pages to be
(No.)          (No.)                           (No.)
forwarded when completed to the Rev ...[illegible]812 Wars Sect. Division.

Remarks: See receipt for payment  ......[illegible]

                                   Approved: Josiah Davis 
                                                      W20961
                                                    Chief Clerk.
                                        
[Signature partly illegible]ME??Wilson
Chief Division[strikethrough] Sect.
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Rev
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 19321
Eve Scribner
Widow of
John Scribner
Pri Rev War
Act: July 4th 36
Index: -- Vol. M, Page 194
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Jan 6, 1926.
Photos mailed to 
E B Baldwin 1255 N.H. Ave
City see receipt for pay [illegible]
Josiah Davis. W. 209611
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Washington Feb. 26. 1844

Hon. J. L. Edwards

Sir, I enclose herewith a power of atty on behalf of [illegible] Mr. Synde which he wishes filed.

I have the honor to be 
Yours [signature illegible]  obt Sit
Albert Smith
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Washington July 23. 1844
Hon. J. L. Edwards
Comr. of Pensions -

Sir, Herewith I send you a letter in relation to the application of Eve Scribner, from which it appears that the last item of evidence sent to you in her case was an old bible of record... [illegible]. Since which no action in the case has been communication, will you be so good as to look
into the application and let me know the result

I have the honor to be
Yours [illegible signature] obt Sit
Albert Smith
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Oct 24 1842

NY

Eve Race


To J L Edwards Esqr
Commisr of Pensions
           or
The Secretary of War
at
Washington D.C.
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Dear Sir
Castile 18th Oct. 1842
Eve Race widow of John Scribner, who tells me, applied
for a pension about four years since, & who has grown
weary of the delay of her former Agents, has employed me
to do what may be possible in her case. The business was
formerly taken up by a Mr Bailey, & W Mitchell formerly of
Bethany & now of Derry was his Atorney. I am not acquainted
how the matter stands & therefore would ask you to inform me
what is still wanting that she may obtain what widows of Revolutionists
are entitled to who were married before the close of the War.
Respectfully Yours
Wm H Snyder
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State of New York
Fulton County Clerks office
Stephen Wait Clerk of the said County
of Fulton do hereby certify that William
Ingraham the person before whom the
within and foregoing affidavit purposes to
have been taken, was at the date and time of taking the said and acting Justice of the peace in & for said County; dwelling in said County, and by the laws of the State of New York duly authorized to take the said; and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice & verily believe his name subscribed to the foregoing as Justice of the peace is his genuine signature. The testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said County & of the Court of Common Pleas thereof this 27th day of May AD 1843

Stephen Wait Clerk
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State of New York }
County of Fulton} ss.
I Joseph Brown of the Town of Northampton & of Fulton Co.  in the State of New York do hereby certify, that I was well acquainted with John Scribner in the time of the Revolutionary war & till he died. I recollect that he was known to have been a Soldier of the Revolution which no one that knew him doubted; but as I was engaged myself in a different direction from him, I did not often See him in actual service. I was out three years in the service & after I came home I was several times called out in company with him, one time I distinctly recollect that I was out with
him under Captain Thomas Brown, either to Saratoga or Fort Edward; at another time I was at Fort Edward but can not say who were the officers at that time. I remember that Col. Peter Yates comanded the regiment where John Scribner & myself resided & he with myself did service in the war under him. Col. Willett P I
know commanded troops from the place where Scribner & myself were in the time of the Revolutionary war, for I was out with him myself
on one occasion. The time I served with John Scribner was if I collect right in seventeen hundred & seventy eight though I can not be
positive as to the year. I saw John Scribner married to Eve Race have in my Father's house. I was myself married in the year seventeen hundred & eighty two & John Scribner was married not a great while afterwards, within a year if I recollect right.
Joseph Brown
Subscribed and sworn to this }
27th day of May 1845 before me }
William P. Ingraham Justice of the Peace }
I know said Brown to be a man of truth and veracity
William P. Ingraham Just
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July 17 1843

S

N.Y.

Scribner

J L
Edwards Commissioner of Pensions

Washington D.C
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             Castile 10th July 1843.

Dear Sir.

Inclosed is an affidavit made by Joseph Brown in which he specifies several officers under whom John Scribner served which will I think serve to identify him to be the man named
on the Comptroller's list.
About the marriage of Scribner, he
can not be as specific as you may require.
In the Affidavit of Andrew Scribner we have a record of his age & his family, & a statement respecting an older sister than himself.
By comparing these affidavits with that of John Brown, I think the declaration of the widow will be sufficiently confirmed that she was
married before her husbands term of service expired
She says her husband got his discharge after they were married & by adding a suitable time between the birth of Andrews who
was born in 1784 & the birth of his sister older than himself, & another suitable period from the birth of the sister till the time of marriage
it may bring it to agree with her statement as well as with statement of John Brown who saw them married.
If there is any technicality in the way to prevent giving a certifica...[certificate..occluded by a flap of paper]to the applicant I with the papers to be preserved so that they may be used in making an application to congress.
Respectfully your's
Wm H Snyder
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State of New York
                               } SS.
County of Saratoga

Be it known that on the 28th day of September
one thousand eight hundred & forty two appeared before me John Brown & being duly sworn States as follows
He now lives in the Town of Saratoga Springs
but formerly in Pittstown, where he saw John
Scribner married to Eve Race, while he lived with his Father, they being married in his Father's house
He thinks in the year seventy nine or eighty.
The reason he thinks it was one of those years is that it was before he was twelve years old, & he is now seventy three years old. The marriage took place in the fall of the year & was performed
by Moses Hicks, who preached but was not stationed as a Minister over any Church.
He says he knows of the above John Scribner's going from home to service in the war, & returning again.
Scribner lived in Pittstown near his Father's in Pittstown when he was married & likewise Eve Race before they were married & afterwards resided at Whitehall
as he understood

Subscribed & Sworn before              John Brand
me the 28th day of September 1842
A. McKen [illegible] Justice of the
Peace of the County of Saratoga

Saratoga County P I Certify that I am personally acquainted with the above named John Brown & that his character is fair & unimpeachable & his statement
is entitled to Credit   September 28. 1842
                                 A. McKen [illegible] Justice 
                                 of the Peace
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Saratoga County
Clerks Office

I Jesse Caude ?? [illegible]and Deputy Clerk of
said County Do hereby certify
that Abel Maker Esqr before
whom the within affidavit of
John Brown purports to have him
taken was at the time of taking
such affidavit a Justice of the Peace
in & for the County of Saratoga residing
therein & duly quallified according to
law and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice & verily believe his signature to be genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my
name & affixed the seal of said County this
28th day of September 1842 

                    Lifae?? Caudes???[illegible] Dep Clerk
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In pursuance of a law passed the 27th day of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following
certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:

1782 Dec 31  ┃ 7185 John Scribner     pri  ┃ -19- ┃-4-┃ -0-
1780 July 31  ┃ 18.128 John Scribner  do ┃-6-┃-16-┃-10-
1780 Nov 30 ┃ 18. 188 John Scribner do ┃-10-┃-13-┃-4-  
1781 Nov   4 ┃39.288 John Scribner  do  ┃ -1- ┃-1-┃ -0- 

STATE OF NEW-YORK,                                                 
                                        }
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, November 20, 1840

I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2. 4 & 8 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers
, viz:
First- under Capt. Ab...?. Livingston in Col. Comdt Marinus Willett Regiment.

Second, "       "    Joseph Harrison  in St" Comdt  John Harper              "

Third,     "      "     do         do           "    "                do     do                   "

Fourth,   "       " Thomas Brown        in  "      Peter Yates                         "

Fifth,      "       "                                 "    "                                                "

Sixth,      "       "                                 "    "                                                "

Seventh, "       "                                 "    "                                                "

Eighth,  "       "                                 "    "                                                "
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State of New York ⎬
Saratoga County SS: Be it Known that before me George G. Scott a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid personally appeared John Brown of the Town of Saratoga Springs
in the County of Saratoga in the State of New York, who being first duly sworn according to law doth depose and say that he was born
at Pitts Town in the County of Rensselaer in the State of New York on the 30th day of September 1769 where he resided until he was aged twenty three years; That during the period of the Revolutionary war he was well acquainted with John Scribner and Eve Race who during the
Period of said war resided in Pitts Town that deponent was present when the said John Scribner and Eve Race were Joined together in Marriage the marriage ceremony was perform
by the Reverend Moses Hicks who occasionally preached in the said Town of Pittstown which said marriage took place at the how of deponents Father in said Town of Pitts Town, but deponent does not recollect the precise date of said marriage, but to the best of his recollection the same took place about the last year of
the said War. And deponent further testifies and says that the above mentioned named, John Scribner was a soldier of the Revolution and was
Absent from home in the service of the United States as a soldier of the aforesaid war, during the season of the year 1780 and also be
the said John Scribner was for home in the service of the United States as a soldier as aforesaid during the reason of the year 1782
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 13th day of November 1844 after being read to him by me
John Brown [signature] Geo. G. Scott Justice of the Peace [signature] and I certify that the above named John Brown is a man of fair character whose statement is to be relied on & that I am well acquainted with him of Geo G Scott Justice
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[all handwritten] State of New York
County of Saratoga SS: I Horace Goodrich Clerk of the County of Saratoga and Clerk of the Court of Common pleas in and for said County do hereby certify that George G. Scott whose name
is subscribed to the within affidavit and certificate and thereon written was at the date thereof, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County dwelling in the said County Commissioned and sworn and duly authorized to take the same And I further certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of such Justice and veryly believe the signature to the said affidavit and certificate are genuine
In testimony whereof I have here unto set my
hand and affixed the Seal of the said Court
this 14th day of November 1844
George Satterlee Deputy Clerk [signature]
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[all handwritten] State of New York Wyoming County }ss On this 26th day of November 1844 personally appeared before me William Buxton a Justice of the peace of said County Jay Scribner aged 45 Years who having been by me duly sworn according to law deposeth + saith that he is the youngest child of John + Eve Scribner who formerly resided at Pittstown New York That he was born in Hampton Washington County New York and is now 45 Years of age that the oldest child of his parents was Jane now Jane Daily that the second child was Andres Scribner who now lives in the town of Castile in said County that said Andrew is now Sixty Years of age + 15 Years older than this deponent as he has always understood their ages That the said Jane was one Year and ten months + on or two days older than Andrew That deponent has lived with his father and his near neighbor from his infancy to the death of his father ["except one year" inserted] the said John Scribner which occurred at Hampton on the 23rd day of April 1825. That deponent at the time lived in the same house with his father  That he has frequently from his earliest recollection until the death of his father heard his father tell of his services in the American revolution at Fort Edward Fort Ann Lake George + Ballston + that he has frequently heard his father state the names of his officers + distinctly members the names of Colonel Wilz + Colonel Harper and Capt Thomas Brown That I learned from my father that a part of his service was rendered after the marriage of my parents  That I also remember his telling of going to Albany +trading after he dot his pay + that my mother went with him and that my father bough for my mother + Grandmother materials for each a petticoat +short gown+ that he also told the price of the goods which was great + took a considerable part of his pay That my father showed me a place between Fort Ann + Sandy Hill where he assisted in building a log way through a swampy place so that the buggy waggons of the army could hop over That the said John
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[all handwritten] Scribner had a brother named Ladock Scribner who has frequently told deponent that the said John Scribner served with him Ladock in the war That they said Ladock Scribner was at one time an Orderly Sergeant Sworn + Subscribed before me this } his Jay Scribner mark [X in the middle] day + year firest above written William Buxton Justice of the peace [signature] I certify the said Jay Scribner to be a credible witness William Buxton [signature]
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[all handwritten] Ladock Scribner was a pensioner under the act of 1818 and resided when pensioned at Hampton Washington County New York he died in 1831 or 2 at Poulteney Vermont At the time that Ladock Scribner was pensioned his brother John the husband of Eve Scribner the claimant was a witness to from his services and the papers in that case now on file in the Pension office will no doubt aid in establishing the identity of the said John Scribner as the man who served under Col Harper + Willett in 1780 + 17882 if the proof now on file + that herewith transmitted to the deponent should be deemed insufficient
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[all handwritten] State of New York Wyoming County }ss On this 26th day of November 1844 personally appeared before me William Buxton a Justice of the peace in aforesaid County Andrew Scribner aged Sixty Years who having been by [?] duly sworn according to law deponent saith that he is a son of John Scribner deceased and Eve his wife that [illegible] as he was told his age by his parents at the date of his earliest recollection Sixty Years old on the 26th day of May last That hs is the second child of the said John + Eve Scribner and that the older child was named James said is now living as supposes in the Territory of Wiskonsan but he does not know his exact place of residence or the Post Office address That the said James Scribner now Jane Daily was born as he was informed by his said parents + verily believes in the month of July 1782. One Year + two months previous ["to" inserted] birth of this deponent That he always learned from his parents that they were married in the Year 1781 and nearly one Year previous to the birth of the said James at the home of Capt Thomas Brown in Pittstown or Hoosick New York by Moses Hicks a travelling preacher That he has heard his father the said John Scribner when living states that he had served as a soldier in the American Revolutionary army and that a part of the said service was rendered after their marriage That he has heard him frequently speak of Having served under Colonels Harper + Willett and also thinks he recollects of his speaking of Capt Brown + one Livingston with whom he was in the service That he recollects distinctly of hearing his father tell of going to Albany to trade after the Expectation of the last period ["of his service" inserted] + that his mother the said Eve went with him and he recollects that his father frequently told of buying for the said Eve Scribner and for the mother of the said John Scribner materials for each of them a petticoat + short gown which was fashionable at that
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[all handwritten] time that some part of his fathers service was rendered at Ballston New York That deponent further then said John Scribner had a discharge which he took on leaving the service + that when a boy he saw the same That deponent had a family record of his own age and ages of his children which has been sent to the Pension Office by W.H. Snyder Esq That hi father the said John Scribner had a brother named Tadock who was older than he and who served with him as he has frequently been informed by the the said Tadock Scribner while serving and that the said Tadock was an Orderly Sergeant Sworn Subscribed the day + Year first } Andrew Scribner [signature] above written before me William Buxton Justice of the peace I certify the said Andrew Scribner to be a credible witness William Buxton [signature]
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[all handwritten] Letter to Hon. Albert Smith 19. Feb, 1844 E
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[all handwritten] 5365 Eve Scribner N.Y. [illegible] to [illegible] S.M. Gates - Feby 10, 1841. See Cer: to Wm Mitchell Sept: 8, 1841 to W.H. Snyder Oct. 26, 1842 [check mark] Same Nov. 16, 1842 [check mark] Same Sep 7, 1843 [check mark] Act 4 July, 1836
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[handwritten signature] Hon Albert Smith [illegible]
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[all handwritten] [illegible] Jonathan Chase 74 18.5 2 [summation line] 94.50 20.94 90 [summation line] 1846 [summation line] 34425 14.5
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[all handwritten] State of New York Wyoming County ]ss On this [blank] day of November 1844 personally appeared before me William Buxton a Justice of the Peace of said County Jonathan Chase aged 84 years to me well known who having been by me duly sworn according to law deposeth + saith that he formerly resided at Quaker Hill Dutchess County + at Hoosick Rensselear County New York + at Cambridge Washington Co. that when he lived at Quaker Hill sometimes called oblong he well known John Scribner + when a boy went to school with him that during the revolutionary war + when he resided in Hoosick the said John Scribner resided in Pittstown which was adjoining town and that as near as he can recollect in the Year 1778 or 1779 and he thinks in the Spring he went under Capt Thomas Brown of Hoosick to Palmertown + served three weeks or thereabouts and that the said John Scribner served with him at that time under the said Brown This deponent well recollects that after the said John Scribner served with him at Palmertown a Year or two he thinks he heard either from the said Scribner or some one else + he thinks from Scribner himself that he had been married and always so understood afterwards thate he knows from what he learned afterward and
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[all handwritten] at the time that the said John Scribner served in the revolutionary army and that he is unable now to state his officers names but thinks he served as much as Eighteen months or more after the service at Palmertown That the said John Scribner resided at Pittstown near the line of Hoosick during the said was Sworn Subscribed before me the day + year above written William Buxton Justice his Jonathan Chase mark [X marked in middle] I certify that the said Jonathan Chase is a Credible witness William Buxton Justice [signature] State of New York Wyoming County}ss I Nathan Howard Clerk of said county do certify that William Buxton Esqr before whom these several affidavits were taken was at the time of taken in same a Justice of the Peace in aforesaid County and authorized to take the same In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand + affixed the official seal of said County this 28th day of November 1844 [illegible] Howard Clerk [illegible] Deputy