Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 6,323, Noel Turner, S.C.
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(8-1776)
SERVICE
S.C.
Turner, Noel
Sarah
NUMBER
W6323
B.L. Wt. 54233-160-55
Born in N.C.
CONTENTS

[stamp]
This Envelope Includes
FINAL PAYMENT VOUCHER
Received from GAO

N.J.
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Branch of the Bank of the State of Alabama of Mobile,
Augt 15 1837,
Received of George S. Gaines, agent for paying Pensions,
Sixteen Dollars 95 Cents, being for Ten months ^& 17 days, pension due to Noel Turner (deceased) from the 4 day of March 1836, to the 21 day of January 1837, for which I have signed duplicate receipts

[signed]

Sarah [her mark hand written X]Turner


Dolls. 16.95

Attest H. Chamberlain
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Alabama
30.482
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Noel Turner
of Mobile Co in the State of Alabama
who was a private in the Compy commanded
by Captain Johnson of the Regt commanded
by Col. [blankl] in the South Carolina line
for six month private
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Inscribed on the Roll of Alabama
at the rate of 20 Dollars - [blank] Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
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Certificate of Pension issued the 21 day of March 1836
and sent to the Hon F. S. Lyon House of Representative
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Arrears to the 4th of March 1836          $100.00
Semiant. allowance ending Sept "[1836] 10.00
                                                   ========
                                                        $110.00
{Revolutionary Claim,}
{Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Danl. Boyd Clerk,
Book E2 Vol. 8 Page 109


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Decd 21 January 1837
Let to J. Perrine 4 Jan 1855
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6335
Alabama Mobile
Sarah Turner
widow of 
SC Noel Turner
who served in the Revolutionary war, as a private
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of
20 Dollars 00
Cents per annum, to commence on
the 4th day of March, 1848.
Certificate of Pension issued the
30th day of May 1855
and sent to
James Perrine
Mobile
Ala

Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
February 2, 1848, Page 356 Vol. 3
Reg 3 Mar 55-192368
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[left side]
Mar 3

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54233 Jany 24/57

1923 x 6 July 21/55
Sarah Turner
wid of
Noel Turner
---
Capt Nelson
S.C. Vol
En Jan 1. 1779
Dis 1783
Revolution

Ala Feb 48 -6335
---

At 160 [illegible] Jany 23/57
Boynton
Chas. C Tucker
Washington D.C.

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Let C. C. Tucker July 3 56
Ed P
Vol. T. 163
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The State of Alabama )
Mobile County. )

Before me,
Alexander B. Meek, Judge of the Probate
Court for said County, this day
personally appeared Enoch Turner, who
being duly sworn, deposeth and saith that
he is the eldest son of Noel Turner Senr and
Sarah Turner, his wife; that the said parties
were married to each other, as deponent has
always understood and believes, some time
in the year 1787; that the annexed paper
is a correct transcript of the Record of the
Ages & time of births of the said
Noel Turner Sen and the said Sarah his
wife, ^and of all their children^, taken from the Family Bible in which
it was kept; that this deponent believes the same to be true and faithful; that the said
Family Bible with the original record is, if not
lost or worn out, somewhere in the possession of one of the other children, though deponent has not seen it for many years; that all of the said children are now living, except John, who died some years since; and that the statement in the annexed paper as to the time of the death of Noel Turner Senior, is also taken from the Family Bible and is correct.
 Enoch Turner
Subscribed and sworn to
before me this 26th day of
March, 1855. And I do further
certify that the deponent is a
man of good character for
veracity, and worthy of belief
Witness my hand and the seal of 
said Court
N B. Meek
Judge 

[wording from next page appears have bled through or there is a hole in the page:]
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Record of Ages.
Noel Turner Sen was born May 11th 1764
Sarah Turner was born Feb. 2d. 1767
Enoch Turner was born Oct. 29th 1788.
Charles Turner ...&c...&c.. Oct 8th 1790
Mary Turner ...&c...&c..  Oct. 14th 1792
Cloey Turner ...&c...&c.. Feb 14 1795.
Sarah Turner ...&c...&c.. Aug. 19th 1797.
Nicy Turner ...&c...&c..  Feb. 5th 1800
William Turner ...&c...&c.. July 30th 1802
John Turner ...&c...&c..  Feb. 9th 1805.
Noel Turner Jr. ...&c...&c..  Aug. 8th 1807.
James Turner ...&c...&c..  Nov. 19th 1810.
Henry Turner ...&c...&c.. Dec. 4th 1813.
 
N [letters blurred out] Sen. Deceased in the year of our
1837.
January the 21st
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46425

10405
37100
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4756.05

2.55.00
116.00
________
3,71.00

10.80
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State of Alabama
Mobile County ss
On this 16th day of January
1855 personally appeared before
me A. B. Meek Judge of the Court of Probate for the County of Mobile State of Alabama Sarah Turner a resident of the City of Mobile, State of Alabama aged Eighty Eight who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by act of Congress passed July 4th Eighteen hundred & thirty six (1836): That she is the widow of Noel Turner who was a private in the Revolutionary Army, that he was a Pensioner of the United States, on the Roll of Pensioners, at the pension agency of Mobile, Alabama under the act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832, where the received the amount of pension due him up to the time of his death
and at which time she surrendered his original
certificate of Pension
She further swears that she was married to the
Said Noel Turner in South Carolina on _ day
one thou that her husband the aforesaid Noel Turner died on the 21st day of January, one thousand Eight hundred and thirty seven, and that she has remained a Widow ever since that period, as will more fully appear by referance to the proof hereunto anexed

her
Sarah X Turner
mark
Subscribed.
Test. 
[signed] J. W. Overall
Witness my hand and seal, this 16th day
of January, 1855.
[signed] A. B. Meek
Judge
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State of Alabama
Mobile County     ⎬ On this the 16th
day of January, 1853. before me Alexander B. Meek Judge of Probate Court of said
and in officio Clerk of the same
County personally appeared Thomas C.
Hunt, a resident of Green County, Mississippi
aged about sixty three years, who first being
by me duly sworn according to law, doth
make oath that he is well acquainted with
Sarah Turner, the party making the foregoing
affidavit, that he was well acquainted with
her and her husband Noel Turner, from the
year 1828, till the time of his death; that
they lived together as husband and wife during
all that period and were known and reputed as such in the community, and raised
a large family of children; that the said
Noel Turner and the person spoken of in
the foregoing affidavit as a Pensioner of
the United States, and that this affiant
knew him as such; and that the said
Sarah Turner has remained a widow
ever since the death of her said husband
Noel Turner
[signed] Thos. C. Hunt

Subscribed and sworn to before me
this 16th January 1855. Witness my hand
and seal of office.
[signed] A. B. Meek
Judge & Clerk

Also before me, at the same time
place, personally appeared John J. Denmark,  a resident of this county who
being by me duly sworn says on oath
that he is about forty five years of
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that he is well acquainted with Sarah
Turner, the party spoken of in the foregoing affidavits; that he was well acquainted with
her and her husband Noel Turner, from
about 1830 or 1831, till the time of his death;
that they lived together during all that time
as husband and wife, and were known
and reputed as such in the community and
had a large family of children, that the said
Noel Turner was, as this affiant understood,
a Pensioner of the United States; and that the
said Sarah Turner has remained a widow
since the death of the said Noel Tuner
[signed] J J Denmark
Subscribed, 
Witness my hand and seal ^of office^ this 16th
January, 1855.
[signed] A. B. Meek [handrawn circle with "seal" inside"]
Judge

The State of Alabama
Mobile County. 
                                
I Alexander B. Meek, Judge of the Probate Court of said county and [illegible] clear of the same hereby certify that I am well satisfied from information received by me that Thomas C. Hunt, and John J. Denmark, the
parties making the foregoing affidavits
are credible and Veracious witnesses, and
worthy of belief
Given under my hand and seal of office
this 66th Jany 1855
[signed] A. B. Meek
Judge 
& Clerk
[handrawn circle with "seal" inside"]
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The State of Alabama
Mobile County             ⎬ 
Before me, A.B. Meek
Judge of the Probate Court of said County, this
day personally appeared Enoch Turner, who being duly sworn, testifies that since the making of his last affidavit now on file in the Pension Office at Washington City, he has found in the possession of his sistersMary Turner, the original Family Record of the births of Noel Turner and Sarah his wife, and their several children; that said original is now in possession of this affiant; that the transcript, heretofore sworn to by this affiant and forwarded to the Pension Office, is a true and correct copy of the said original record, as to the said births; and that said transcript was made some years since,but now appears upon comparison to be in all respects correct. The said Family Record is contained in a copy of the New Testament, printed in the year, 1804, and which has, to the knowledge of this affiant, been used as the Family Record for about forty five years

[signed] Enoch Tamer
Subscribed
Witness my hand and seal of said Court
this 16th day of April, 1855.
A B Meek
Judge
[multipointed seal to the left of the signature, with illegible print]
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126.
Noel Turner
[scratched out "Mississippi"]
Alabama

Returned 
$20 per ann.
Payable at Mobile

Hon. F. S. Lyon
HR
[following is scratched out]
Hon. F.E. Plummer
House of Rep.
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
4th March 1834

Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has
been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of
your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and
the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed,
before a pension can be allowed. the notes and the regulations will shew what is
necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed,
you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: }). You will, when
you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and
you will, by compling with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your
claim.
A Statement, showing the Service of Noel Turner
Duration of the
claimant's service./
Rank of
claimant./
Names and rank of the Field officers
under whom he served./
Cap. Christon/
Age at present,
and place of abode
when he entered/
18 years
Barnwell
Dist
So. Ca./
Proof by which the declaration is supported./
Traditionary
I am, respectfully
Your obedient servant
JAMES L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers, all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.

Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1.The Regular Troops.
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.
4. Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, mucicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss.
County of

On this _________   day of  _________     
personally appeared (a) before _________
A.B. a resident (b) of _________in the county of
and State, Territory or District of
 _________ aged (c)  _________years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d)  _________ with  _________ and served in the (e)  _________regiment of the
 _________line, under the following named officers:  _________
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged,
and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of  _________
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I  _________ of the Court of  _________
do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of  _________ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this  _________
day of  _________ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be
found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia,
except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and
subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _________ and C. D. residing in (the same)
hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with  _________ who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be  _________ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary
Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A.B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the  _________
and that C.D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the  _________
and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I,  _________ Clerk of the Court of  _________
do hereby certify that the foregoing
contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of
for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this  _________
day of  _________ & c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration,(l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his
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alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal
means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. 
All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and
there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his
case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of
service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State
troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war,
 and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute?
And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such
Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6 {To a Soldier {Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it?
6 {To an Officer {Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify
as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are
requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court,
without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons--one of whom should be
the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from
their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed
and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion.
If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character
and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct
proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the
inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before
required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper
county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform,
and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.

Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record,
or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper
Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a
Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is
his genuine signature.

No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before
the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the
declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, 
taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period
of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the
opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.

[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow
the rule laid down for his guidance. 
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not
conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the
claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so
definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the
loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason
of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his
recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: --For---year----months, and----days,
I served as a----For----months and ----- days, I served as a---- ; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law 
directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months,
is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years
in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is
highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement;
the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; 
that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil
pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public
seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the
papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains
the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must
pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses
who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as
the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, 
and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
>> The notes from [a] to are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in
note [j]  applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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Declaration to be made by a Widow who has never received Bounty Land.

STATE OF Alabama)
Mobile COUNTY) ss
On this 2d day of July 1859, before me, a Notary Public
in and for the County and State above named personally appeared (1) Sarah Turner
aged 88 years ^& 4 months, a resident of Mobile Ala., who being duly sworn according to
law, declares that she is the widow of (2) Noel Turner who was a ( 3 )
private in Capt Wilson's company and also under other Captains
in the south Carolina & Georgia militia, in the
Revolutionary War
that he (4) volunteered at Savanah River in the State of South Carolina
on or about the first day of January, 1779, and continued in actual service ^three years & three months^
and was honorably discharged at the due not how 
the end of the war in 1783, , and (5) that she has now before made
application for bounty Land
She further states that she was married to the said ( 2 ) Noel Turner
at Barnwell Dis. S.C. on ^or around^ the first day of February , A.D. 1788 by one 
[illegible] a ^Justice of the Peace^ that her name before her said marriage was Sarah Turner
that her said husband died at Mobile County, Ala on the 21st day of January 1837
and she is now a widow, (6) that there is now no public or private record of her
marriage that she can obtain that is a private family record 
of her marriage in the Department of the Interior in the papers of her claim for
a pension. That she now holds a life pension certificate dated May 20, 1855.
granted under the act of March 4th 1842 and recorded in Volume 3 page 356
[illegible]G T Getty, clerk

She makes the declaration for the purpose of obtaining the Bounty Land to which she is entitled under the
act of March 3, 1855, never having received Bounty Land or knowing that she is entitled except for the
above service; and she hereby constitutes and appoint CHAS. C. TUCKER, of Washington, D. C., her attorney
to prosecute her claim and procure her warrant. Hereby authorizing and empowering her said attorney
to obtain from the proper authorities at Washington City, or elsewhere, certified copies of any Army
or Navy records or documents in which her said husband's services may be recorded, and to procure any
and all other evidence that may be necessary to establish her claim, as fully as if personally present; and
revoking and countermanding all former authority that may have been given for the above specified purpose.
Sarah ^her X mark^ Turner

Sworn to, subscribed, and acknowledged before me the day and year first above written; and on the same
day personally came before me J M Nettles, a resident of Mobile
County, in the State above named, and Ellis Fitzgerald, a resident of
hill County, in said State, to me known as credible witnesses, who being duly sworn, declare
that they are personally acquainted with (1) Sarah Tuner widow of (2)
Noel Turner, who has made and subscribed the foregoing declaration:
that they were personally acquainted with ( 2 ) Noel Turner and his wife
during the lifetime of the former, and know that they lived together as man and wife, and were so reputed;
and they believe that the husband of the said (1) Sarah Turner was the identical
person who performed the service mentioned in the above declaration; that the above named (2) Noel
Turner is now dead and the said (1) Sarah Turner
is now a widow. And they further swear that they are disinterested in this claim.
J. M. Nettles
( 8 )
Ellis Fitzgerald

Sworn to and subscribed before me, and I certify that I am not interested in the claim or concerned in
its prosecution.
(9) S.C. Stramler
Notary Public
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STATE OF _____________________ 
_____________________COUNTY ⎬ ss
I, _____________________ Clerk of the County Court in and for the
County and State above named, do hereby certify that _____________________
Esq., before whom the foregoing affidavits were made, and who has thereunto signed his name, was at the
time of so doing a _____________________
in and for the County and State above
named, duly commissioned and sworn, that all his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit,
and that his signature thereto is genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto signed my name and affixed my official seal this _____________________
day of _____________________
185_____________________

Forwarded by
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INSTRUCTIONS.
1. Claimant's name.
2. Soldier's name.
3. Here specify the service as follows: " in the company commanded by Captain ________ in the _______ regiment of ________ commanded by Col. ____________," or "a _______ on board of the United States ship __________ commanded by __________ in the war of _________," or as the case may be.
4. Enlisted, volunteered, was drafted, or skipped.
5. "Add, " that she has never before made application for Bounty Land," or " that she made an application for Bounty Land for said service, and her claim was rejected or suspended."
6. The claimant will here state that no public or private record of her marriage exists, or can be obtained, if such is the case. If there is a County, Town, or Church record of the marriage, a duly certified copy of such record must be sent. If there is no public, but a private or family record containing the marriage or the births of children, a copy of such record must be sent, and the magistrate will certify that it is a correct copy of the original. Parol evidence of the marriage or of co-habitation, is not admissible until the absence of record evidence is accounted for.
7. Claimant's signature.
8. Witnesses signatures.
9. Magistrate's signature.

[right side of page]
192368
BOUNTY LAND CLAIM.
--------------
ACT OF MARCH 3, 1855.
----------------
ORIGINAL CLAIM FOR LAND WARRANT.
------
Mrs. Sarah Turner
WIDOW of Noel.
===========

===========
CHAS. C. TUCKER,
Atty for Claimant,
WASHINGTON, D. C.
Page 20

[handwritten]

This is a copy of an original Recevd file in this case. 
[signed] Triplett
Page 21

Record of Ages
Noel Turner has borned in the year of the Lord May the 11- in the year of 1764
Sarh Turner was born February the 2 in the 17-68
Enoch Turner was born Oct. 29 in the 1788
Charles Turner was born Oct. 8 in the 1790
Mary Turner was born Oct. the 14 in the 1792
Clay Turner was born February 14 in the 1795
Sarh Turner was born August 19th 1799
Niey Turner was born on 5 of February 1800
Herm Turner was born 30 if July 1802
John Turner was born 9 of February 1805
Nal Turner was born 8 August 1807
James Turner was born 19 if November 1810
Y C Henry Turner was born on 4 December 1813
Thomas Smith was born 6 April 1816
Sarh Smith was born 24 of April 1817
[illegible] B. W. Smith June 10-1795
Page 22

[handwritten]
Noel Turner
Decl 
to hi en[illegible]

Hon. F.E. Plummer
HR
Page 23

The State of Mississippi Jackson County
The amended application of Noel Turner
named in a former application, and to which
this is attached of the said County of Jackson
for a pension under the act of Congress
June 7th 1832.
The said Noel Turner, by way of
amendment to his former application
for a pension makes and subscribes
the following oath -
The State of Mississippi Jackson County
Personally appeared before the undersigned
presiding Judge of the Circuit Court
of the fourth Judicial District of the State of
Mississippi, the said County of Jackson
being in said District, the said Noel
Turner who being duly sworn, deposeth and
saith that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear
positively as to the precise length of his
service, but according to the best of his recollection
then he served not less than the period mentioned
below and in the following grade:
For three years and three months I served
as a private; and for which service I claim
a pension.
Sworn and subscribed to
before me this 3rd day of Sept 1833
Thos A Willis
mark
Judge of Circuit Court
for the 4th Judicial District
his mark Noel X Turner
Washington Feb 25th 1834
Page 24

[first handwritten note, likely written by Marion T. (Turner) "John" Black]
Washington Feb 25th 1834
I am well acquainted with A McLendon Clk
whose name is signed to the within certificate 
I know he was Clerk of the County Court
of Jackson County - Mississippi at the time of making certificate. I also know
that there was no seal of said Court at that
time. I also know that Tho A Willis was
Presiding Judge of the district to which Jackson County is attached 3rd Sep 1833
M T Black MC
of Mississippi

[second handwritten note, likely written by Franklin E. Plummer - Mississippi’s Jacksonian U.S. Representative in the 22nd–23rd Congresses (March 4, 1831–March 3, 1835).]
I am personally acquainted with the Hon Tho A Willis
Presiding Judge 4C and with A McLendon Clerk 4C where
now, are signed to the annexed papers and know their signatures
from having seen them often for ceveral [sic] years past - I have
no hesitation in saying that the signatures are genuine and
written by themselves
Washington City July 5th 1834
F E Plummer MC of
Mississippi
Page 25

State of Mississippi
Jackson County
On this 11th day of December 1832
personally apeared [sic] in open Court, before
the county court of Jackson now [seting, word stricken]
seting Noel Turner a resident of
the County of Jackson and State
of Missisippi aged sixty eight years May
11th 1832 who being first duly sworn
according to law doth on his oath make
the following declaration in order to obtain the benifit [sic] of the act of Congress
passed Jun 7th, 1832.
That he entered the service of the
United States under the following named
officers and served as hearin stated
-first enter the Militia of South
Carolina under Captain Joseph Jhonson [sic] shortly after the Brittish
took possession of Savanah and
remained in regular service till peace
was made under Fedrick [Frederick] Womack and
Jhon [John] Sapp Captain, generally ranging
from Edesto [Edisto River] in South Carolina to a
Geechie [Ogeechee River] in Georgia and when called into service resided in South Carolina
Barnwell District the claimant states that he was ordered in to service
by a general order of the commander
in chief of their state and was at the
Battle of Golpins Creek on Savana
River under Capt Womack also at the
Seige of Augusta Georgia
Page 26

[handwritten]
under the command General Clark
working in the intrenement [?instrument?], and do not recollect another regular officers name
as he was not much with them only
at the aforementioned battles being
one that was detailed and sent to
Beach. J. land to sift meal for the
troops at Charleston was sent
home from Augusta after the battle
without any discharge and hath no
document, to show his service nor
no person that he knows of that
he can establish the same by-
---
He hereby relinquishes every claim
whatever to any a pension or anuity
except the present and declares that
his name is not on the pension of the agency
of any State
Q. Where and in what year were you born
A. North Carolina North Hampton
County in the year of our Lord
1764 May 11th
Qus Have you a record of your age
A. yeas
Q. Where were you living when 
called into service in here having on
lived since the revolution war and
in here do you now live
Ans South Carolina orange burge
district and from there moved to
Alabama ten mile be [illegible] fort
Mims one year from there to
Leaf River Mississippi
Page 27

[handwritten]
Territory Green County in 1811
in years and on Chickasaw [illegible]
in Green County Mississippi two
years and from there I moved to
where now live on the head
at seder Creek in Jackson County
Mississippi
Qst How were you called into
service
Ans by an order of Captain
Johnson under whom I served
about one year
Qst state the names of some of the
regular officers who you were with
the troops where you served such
continal and Militia regiments as
you can recollect and the general
encumstances of your service
Ans I was not perticularly acquinted with any being with them only at the battles and
not acquainted with any public
concerns being an orphan boy
and my general service was to
keep Guard on the lines under the
above named captain and never
was attached to any perticular
rigments
Qst did you an receive a discharge from
the service
Ans  no
Page 28

[handwritten]

Qst State the names of persons to
whom you are known in your present neighbourhood and who can
testify as to your charactor for veracity and there belief of your service
as a soldier of the revolution
Ans Thos C. Hunt and Cordel Hagin
Sworn to and subscribed the day
and year aforesaid

his
Noel X Turner
mark

We Thos C. Hunt a Clergyman
residing in the County of Jackson and
State of Mississippi and Cordel
Hagin rending in the same hereby
certify that we are well acquainted with
Noel Turner who has
subscribed and sworn to the above
declaration that we believe him
to be sixty Eight years of age that
he is reputed and believed in the
neighbourhood where he resides to
have been a soldier of the revolution
and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn and subscribed the day and
year aforesaid
[signed] Tho C. Hunt
his
Cordell X Hagin
marke
Page 29

[handwritten]

And the said Court do hereby declare
there opinion after the investigation
the matter and after putting the
interrogatories presented by the
War department that the above
named applicant was a revolutionary
soldier and served as he states and
the Court further certify, that
appears to them that Thom. C Hunt
who has signed the preceding
certificate is a clergyman resident
in the County of Jackson and
of Mississippi and that Cordell Hagin has also signed the same is a 
resident of the same County
and State and is a credible person
and that there statement is intitled to credit
[signed]  John Fairley Judge of Probate
[signed] B. G. Whittington 
Associate Justice

I A. McLendon Clerk of the cty Court of Jackson County do hereby certify that the
foregoing contains the original procedings of the said Court in the matter of the application
of Noel Turner senior for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my
hand and private seal there being no seal of
office this 11 day of Decr AD 1832
[signed] A. McLendon Clk [small circle representing a seal]
Cty C J C
Page 30

[printed form completed in handwriting]

In reply to your request of _______________ [left blank], received  _______________ [left blank] for 
a statement of the military history of Noel Turner soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or his widow's)  application for pension on file in this Bureau.
[handwritten] W. 6323
[following is a table with "/" to indicated column breaks]
Dates of Enlistment or Appointment/ Length of Service./ Rank./ Officers under Whom Service was Rendered. / Captain./Colonel./ State.
Row 1 
Jan 1, 1779./blank/Pri./Joseph Johnson, Fredk Wormack, John Sapp/[check mark]/S. C. 
Row 2
Served at various times until end of war. amounting to 3 yrs. 3 mos.

Battles engaged in, Savannah, Augusta.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Orangeburg Dist. S.C.
Date of application for pension, Dec 11, 1832. His cl was al
Residence at date of application, Jackson Co., Miss.
Age at date of application, B. May 11, 1764, Northampton Co., N.C.
Remarks: Sol. mar. in Barnwell Dist., S.C. about Feb. 1 1787 or 1788. Sarah Turner who was born Feb. 2, 1767. He died Jan. 21, 1837 in Mobile Co., Ala. and she was allowed pension in an appl. Ex. Jan. 16, 1855, while a resident of Mobile, Ala. Children, Enoch b. Oct. 29, 1788; Charles b. Oct. 8 1790; Mary b. Oct. 14, 1792; Cloey, b. Feb. 24. 1795; Sarah b. Aug. 19, 1797; Nicy, b. Feb. 5. 1800; William, b. July 30, 1802; John, b. Feb. 9, 1805; Noel, b. Aug. 8, 1807; James, B. Nov. 19, 1810; Henry, b. Dec. 4, 1813.
Respectfully,
 [not signed]
Commissioner
 6-2856
Page 31

[printed form completed in handwriting]
9604
Alabama M
Sarah Turner
widow of Noel
who was a private 
in the Revolution
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 20 dollars 00 cents per annum, to commence
on the 4th day of March, 1843.

Certificate of Pension issued
the 30th day of May 1855.
and sent to 
James Perrine
Mobile Ala -
[Acts of March 3, 1843, and June 17, 1844.]
Recorded in Book A
Vol. 2 Page 232 -
Page 32

[handwritten]
W. 17
June 1832
Noel Turner [illegible] $21 year
4 March 1836 to 21 Janry 1837
10 mos [illegible] mobile Co. $16.95
Sarah Turner widow of deceased
3d Qr 1837

[stamp]
Final Payment Voucher
Received from GAO
Page 33

[handwritten]
The State of Alabama
Mobile County Ss
Be it known that before
me John F. Everitt Judge of the County Court
in & for the County aforesaid personally appeared
Sarah Turner the widow of Noel Turner
deceased & made oath in due form of Law
that the said Noel hence was in his life
time the identical person named in the
Original certificate now in her possession
of which I certify the following is a true
copy, viz - War Department Revolutionary
claim. I certify that in conformity
with the Law of the United States of 9th
June 1832, Noel Turner of the State of
Alabama, who was a private in the
any of the revolution, is entitled to
receive twenty Dollars per annum
during his natural life, commencing
On 4th March 1831 & payable semi-annually
on the 4th of March 14th September
in every year-- Given at the War
Page 34

[handwritten]
Office of the United States the twenty
first day of March One thousand Eight hundred & thirty six
[signed] Lewis Cass
secretary of War

Examined & 
Countersigned
[signed] J. L. Edwards
Commission of Pensions

the said Sarah Turner also made oath
that she is the widow of the said Noel Turner
and that he died on the ^twenty^ first day
of January 1837 in the County of Mobile
in the State of Alabama
Attest
[signed] A. Chamberlain
Her
Sarah X James
mark
Subscribed & sworn to before me this the
fourteenth day of August 1837 as witness
my hand & Seal of the Court
[signed] Jno F Everett, Judge
Co. Ct. M. C.
---
State of Alabama
Mobile County Personally appeared before
John F Everitt Judge of the County
Page 35

[handwritten]

Court of the County aforesaid Nael Turner
who made oath that Sarah Turner is
the widow of Noel Turner mentioned
in the forgoing pension certificate & that the
said Noel Turner departed this life on
the twenty first day of January 1837
[signed] Nael Turner

Attest
[signed] H. Chamberlain
subscribed & Sworn to before me this
fourteenth day of August 1837 as
witness my hand & Seal of the Court
[signed] Jn F Everitt Judge
Co Ct. M. C.

State of Alabama
Mobile County SS
I William Taylor Clerk
of the County Court of
the County aforesaid do hereby certify that the
evidence adduced in the forgoing case
was satisfactory to the court-- & that the
said Sarah Turner is the widow of
the said Noel Turner decd
Given under my hand & Seal
of Office this 15th Aug 1837
[signed] Wm Taylor
C C C M C
Page 36

[printed form completed in handwriting]

WAR DEPARTMENT.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States, of the 7th June, 1832, Noel Turner of the State of Alabama
who was a private in the Army of the Revolution
is entitled to receive Twenty.... dollars and ...... cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March and 4th of September, in every year
Given at the War Office of the United States
this Twenty first day of March one thousand eight hundred and thirty=six
[signed] Lew Cass
Secretary of War.
Examined and
Countersigned.}
[signed] J. L. Edwards
J L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions.
Page 37

[stamp upper left]
Final Payment Voucher
Received from GAO

[handwritten] 30.482

[stamp lower right]
Final Payment Voucher
Received from GAO
Page 38

[handwritten]

Washington D.C. Jan. 9th 1857
Hon Geo.C. Whiting
Comm of Pensions
Sir
I return enclosed a notice
from your office dated Oct. 23. 1856
The claim refered to is that of Sarah Turner
widow of Noel No. 192. 368. Act of 1855. The claim was suspended for authentication of the official character of the Notary which was filed on the 17th of Oct. 1856

Very respectfully
Your Obt Sert
[signed] Chas. C. Tucker
Page 39

[handwritten]
192.368
Noel Turner, decd
[illegible] July Jan 12

Johnson
Cls to Mr
Boynton

Mrch 31/56
J

Pr
Page 40

[printed with handwritten note at the end]
PENSION OFFICE.
Oct 23d 1856.

Sir
The frequent applications made to this office for information about particular claims
for bounty land pending before it, render it proper to call particular attention to some
suggestions, a careful observance of which, by those thus applying, is necessary to enable
this office to give the information desired.
The system of the registration of such claims in this office, requires that both the
name of the applicant for land and the number of his application be stated, in order that the
office may readily turn to the papers in the files. In all acknowledgments of the receipt
of applications at this office the number of each application is given, and by reference to
those the numbers can always be ascertained. If, however, from not having received any
such acknowledgment, or from having subsequently lost it, the number cannot be stated, the particular time--the month and the day of the month when the application was
forwarded to this office should be stated as nearly as may be
Without these particular statements this office cannot undertake, with the force now
at its command, to make those examinations for particular claims which are necessary
in order to give information about them. The amount of time and labor which would be
required in a general examination for a particular application among the over two hundred and thirty thousand now received, will readily be
seen.
J. MINOT,
Commissioner.

[handwritten]
We have the add, Evidence
in the case of Noel Turner dec
if you have not received any
information concering the
case please comply with the
above inquire
C.C. Tucker
Preseris
Page 41

[handwritten]
Christopher Collins
Page 42

[handwritten]

The State of Alabama 
Mobile County            ⎬
Before me, Alexander B. Meek Judge of the Probate Court of said county, this day personally appeared Christopher Collins, Sen. known to me as a citizen of this County, of good character for veracity, who, being duly sworn makes oath that he was well acquainted with Noel Turner and Sarah his wife, that
he knew them in Barnwell District, State of
South Carolina, more than fifty years ago.
that they were then living together as husband
and wife, lawfully joined in wedlock, and had
been so living for several years, according to
the general reputation and belief, and this
affiant never heard or believed to the contrary;
that he knew and knows their eldest son and
child, Enoch Turner, who at the time referred
to was a boy of some eight or ten years of
age, according to affiants best recollection and
belief, and was generally known and reputed
to have been born in lawful wedlock, that affiant knew the said Noel and Sarah Turner
to be living together as husband and wife up
to the time of his death, and that they were
always reputed and considered as such from
the time he first knew them until the death of the said Noel. 
[signed] C. Collins Sen.

Subscribed
Witness my hand and the seal
of the said County, this 21st
day of February, 1855.
[signed] A. B. Meek, Judge
Page 43

[printed form completed in handwriting]
11.758
Alabama Mobile
================
Sarah Turner
widow of Noel Turner
who died on the 21. January 1837-
of [blank] in the State of [blank]
who was a private in the [blank] commanded
by Captain [blank] of the [blank] commanded
by [blank] in the Revolution
line for 6 months- 
=============
Inscribed on the Roll of Mobile
at the rate of 20. Dollars 00 Cents
per annum, to commence on the 21st day of
January 1837.
===============
Certificate of Pension issued the 30th day of
May 1855- and sent to J Perrine
Mobile Ala.
===============
Arrears to the 4th of [blank]
Semi-annual allowance ending [blank]

{Revolutionary Claim,
Act July 7, 1838.}
Recorded by G. T. Getty Clerk,
Book D Vol. 2 - Page 337 -
Page 44

[handwritten]
No. 15, 250
Sarah Turner
Widow of Noel
Ala.
J. Perrine Jany 26 1855
Same Mar 6 1855
" Apl 21 1855
Same May 11/55




July 7 1838
Page 45

[handwritten]
Pen off [Apr] 8 1855

Will you please state to what time Noel Turner of Ala act June 7 1832 as $20 a year was paid?
Very Respectfully
[signed] L P Waldo Comm

R J Atkinson Esq
Third Auditor
Triplete [or Triplett]
 
21 Jany 57
Page 46

[handwritten]
Noel Turner died 21 Jany 1837. Paid in full

[signed] Robt J Atkinson
Auditor
Page 47

[round stamp]
Mobile A
Mar 7

[handwritten]
Mar 19

Free
Hon. Francis S. Lyon
City of Washington

Hon. F. S. Lyon
Page 48

                          Mobile 7th March 1836

F. S. Lyon Esq.

Dear Sir,
     Since the receipt of your letter we have not been able to (illegible) in whose behalf you had this kindness to make application for a pension, but yesterday we saw his eldest son who has recommended that we should receive a pension for the six months which  (illegible).  If you will have the goodness to (illegible) this & transmit it to us we will immediately pay it (illegible) to him.
     We would not have (illegible) papers upon your time & attention in this matter had it not been for a very (illegible) appeal, who seems to think that he has performed services for the country for which he has not been rewarded as this man has.  (illegible) thanks for your trouble.

                             Very Respectfully
                                Yr Obt Servts
                                 Chamberlain & Erwin
Page 49

[handwritten]
to me the result.

Very respectfully
Your Ob Servant,

J Perrine

L. P. Waldo Esqr
Commissioner of Pension
Washington
DC
Page 50

                           Mobile Dec 28th 1854


Sir,     
     I have been requested to write you by an old Lady of the name of Turner.  She says she is the widow of Noel Turner, who was a pensioner on the roll of this agency and that she drew of the agent in this city the amount of pension due him from Sept 4th '36 to the time of his death on the 21st January 1837.  I have examined the Books handed over to me by my predecessor in office, but cannot find the name of Noel Turner.  I presume there must be some that were not delivered to me, as I have comments with Judge Chamberlain of this city & he tells me that he drew up the papers for her to draw the pension due her husband at the time of his death & he knows that he did draw it from the agent here.
     She is a very respectable Lady, very old, and infirm beside in a state of great poverty.  If what she states are facts, she, I presume, will be entitled to the same pension her husband received from his death to the present time.
     You will oblige me as well as the worthy Lady if you will be so good and have the matter investigated and will commensurate
Page 51

[handwritten]
to me the result.

Very respectfully
Your Ob Servant,
[signed] J Perrine
Page 52

[handwritten]
Dec 17-
J. L. Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions

Hon. F. S. Lyon
H.R.
Page 53

                       House of Representatives;
                         16 Dec 1835

Sir,
     I have received the enclosed papers relating to the claim of Noel Turner to a pension with a request that, I would present them at your office for your examination and decision.

                                        Very respectfully
                                           Your obt servt
                                              F S Lyon

J L Edwards Esq
Com of Pension
Page 54

[handwritten]
Mobile January 17th 1855
Sir, 
I herewith enclose to you, at the request
of Mrs Turner, her Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress July 4th 1836. She informed me that her husband Noel Turner was a Pensioner on the roll of this agency, but on Examinging I could not find his name on any of the Books turned over to me by predecessors in this office. On writing to you on the subject you very politely promptly informed me, that her husband Noel Turner decd was a pensioner on the roll of this office under act 7 June 1832 & died 21st Jany '37 If the Declaration is in proper form and the affidavit sufficient to support it to obtain a certificate you will oblige her by having it sent to me
I am acquainted with the applicant, and also
with the gentlemen who have made the affidavits.
Hunt is a Baptist minister, in good standing in, or out of his church. Indeed I know all the parties to be creditable persons. Very respectfully your obeint Servant
[signed] J Perrine

L P Waldo Esq
Commissioner
Page 55

[handwritten]

Mobile Feb 21th 1855
I am requested by Mrs Turner the widow of Noel Turner, whose application for pension has been Examined and filed under act of July 1838, to forward to you the within affidavit as additional testimony to establish the fact of her marriage with Noel Turner. Their eldest son was near this City and is a man of good character. His name is Enoch, he tells me that he is 66 years of age & that he has the family Bible containing the record of his Father, and Mothers age, and the birth of all their
children viz: Eleven, and that it is in his fathers
hand writing, Judge Meeks tells him & to day
Clk tells me likewise, that his testimony as to these facts would not be received as he would be considered a party in interest. By no other than one of the children, can these records be proven -- There are 3 of the other children living in, and near the city, all gentlemen of good reputations, other testimony can be
obtain to corroborate the affidavits already
had, but none going further back than
Page 56

[handwritten]

then Collins -If these, and other of a similar
character are not sufficient to establish the fact, to the satisfaction of yourself, she may as will abandon the pursuit of the pension. This I
shall regret on her account, because I am
well satisfied myself that her application
is an honest one - and that she is justly entitled
to this bounty of the Government.
I am Sir with great
regard your ob Sevt
[signed] J Perrine
-

L P Waldo Esqr
Commissioner of Dennis
Washington D.C.

V/B
There are no Clerks to the courts of Probate in Alabama
The Judges are ex officio, Clerks
Page 57

[handwritten]

Mobile March 27th 1855
Sir, 
Mrs Turner the widow of Noel Turner decd (who was a pensioner on the roll of the
Mobile agency) who is an applicant for a
Pension under act 7th July 1838 has requested
me to forward to you the enclosed as additional testimony to that already on file in the Department in order to establish the fact of her marriage with Noel Turner decd
I am well acquainted with the Deponent
Enoch Turner and two of his brothers who
reside in & near this City, and know
them to honest & respectable citizens
I have not the slightest doubt as to the
truth of this testimony, or of that already on file, or of the justice of her claim; but whether
the proof is sufficient with you to establish it is
another matter.
Very respectfully, your
Obt Servant
[signed] J Perrine
L P Waldo Esq
Commission of Pensions
Page 58

[handwritten]

Mobile May 17th 1853
Sir,
I herewith send you the original family
record refered to by Mr Enoch Turner in his
affidavit now on file in the Pension office
for the purpose of establishing Sarah Turner's
(Widow of Noel Turner's) claim to pension.
there is no necessity to return this record
Very Respectfully
your obedient
Servant
[signed] J Perrine

L P Waldo Esqr
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
DC.
Page 59

[printed form completed in handwriting]

Brief in the case of Sarah Turner widow of Noel
County and State of Alabama
July 7 1838 &c
==========
Claim, ("original," or "for increase") [for increase is marked out] [no answer]
Proof exhibited, (if original.) [no answer]
Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance.
Her husband was a pensioner under the act of June 7 1832 at
$20 a year (service proved in his papers)
Proof of Marriage, Family Record showing the birth of children
Her identity as widow of the Pensioner and
the date of his death established by the testimony of Christopher
Collins, Thomas C. Hunt & John J Deming
all properly certified
[signed] Thornton Triplett
Examining Clerk.

Name and residence of Agent
J Perrine Esq
Mobile
Ala
Page 60

[handwritten]
Sarah Turner
Widow of Noel
Ala
Admd July 7 1838 [illegible initials]
6 mos pri $20 per
annum from 21 Jany
1837. When her husband
died and to which time
he was last paid.
2 years Excepted. 

Cert to 
J Perrine Esq
Mobile
Ala
Page 61

[handwritten]
Mobile May 2d 1855
Sir,
Some time since. Mrs Turner the widow of
Noel Turner decd made her application for a
pension under act 7th July 1838, which has been [illegible] and duly filed ~ the
last testimony
transmitted to the Department to establish the
fact of her marriage with Noel Turner, was
the affidavit of Enoch Turner, who testified
to the correctness of a transcript of the family
record, which accompanied his affidavit &
which was taken from the record some years ago
Since then, the original has been found in
the possession of one of the children of Noel and Sarah Turner and he now testifies that the
copy now on file in the Department is a true
transcript from the family record
Very respectfully
your obt Servant
[signed] J Perrine

L P Waldo Esqr
Commis of Pensions
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[handwritten]

Suspended
Bounty Land Claim
Act of Mar 3. 1855
Sarah Turner
Widow of Noel
Addl evidence

Certificate of Official
character and signature of S. C.
Stramler Notary Public. stating 
date of his Commission &c on B. L. 
Claim of Wm L Dyson upon which
has issued warrant N. 57.685
for 120 acres.

Not in Sus files
22 Oct
Adl Ev

Chas. C. Tucker
present.
Page 63

[printed form completed in handwriting]

STATE OF Mobile
Mobile County ss.
On this 10th day of October 1856 before
me the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the county and State above
mentioned, personally appeared Mrs. Sarah Turner, who being duly sworn according to law, declares that she is the identical Sarah Turner widow of Noel, who is a
Revolutionary pensioner under the Act of 1848 .and who has made application for Bounty Land under the act of March 3, 1855, by reason of said services, said application having been forwarded to Charles C. Tucker, of Washington, D. C., to procure the Warrant.
SHe further states that he has never received Bounty Land under this or any previous act of Congress, or
made any application herefor, other than the application above referred to.
her
Sarah X Turner

We, R W Harris and John D Kriete residents of
Mobile on our oaths declare that the foregoing declaration was signed and acknowledged
by Mrs Sarah Turner in our presence, and that we believe from the appearance and state
ments of the applicant, that he is the identical person he represents himself to be, and that we are disinterested in his claim for Bounty Land.
[signed] Robt. W. Harris
[signed] John D. Kriete

The foregoing declaration and affidavit were sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written; and I certify that I know the affiants to be credible persons; that the claimant is the person he represents
himself to be, and that I have no interest in this claim.
[signed] R B Roulston
JPMC
---

STATE OF Alabama
mobile County ss
I Jn A Hitchcock Judge of the Probate Court in
and for the County and State above named, do hereby certify that R B Roulston Esq., before whom the foregoing affidavits were made is, and was at the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, duly commissioned and sworn and that his
signature thereto is genuine.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto signed my name and affixed my official seal this 11th
day of October 1856.
[signed] Jno A. Hitchcock
Judge.
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[handwritten]
The State of Alabama
Mobile County
---
The Amended application of
Noel Turner named in a former application and
a former amendment to which this is attached
for a pension under the act of Congress of the
7th June 1832--the said Noel Turner having
removed from the County of Jackson in the State of Mississippi some time in the month of
March 1835 to his present residence in the
said County of Mobile
the said Noel Turner by way of amendment to his former application for a Pension
the amended application hereunto attached
makes & subscribes the following oath viz.
Personally appeared before the undersigned
William M Garrow Judge of the County Court in and for the County of Mobile in the State of Alabama the said Noel Turner who being duly
Sworn deposeth & saith that he was in the
actual service of the United States, in the time
of what is commonly called the Revolutionary war from the time of the fall of Savannah
up to the time of the taking of Augusta by General Clarke - that he was in both of those battles
but that in consequence of old age & infirmity
he does not recollect the precise time which
transpired between those two events that he
fought in both of said battles on the
side of the United States but can not except
from written history (which affiant does not
know that he would in permitted to use) attest
what length of time it was-- according to
the best of his recollection it was 3 years and
3 months, that he served as a private that -
he served all of this time in the army
Page 65

[handwritten]
& not in any
civil pursuit -  that he was first called
into service by Capt Johnson (Joseph) who
who had authority so to do-- that he thinks
he served under him for one year or more,
then served under Frederick Wormack -- captain, for considerable length of time and
next served under Capt John Sapp that
he thinks the said Captains were all of the same Regiment, but does not recollect the
number or name of the regiment but believes
that [blank] was the commanding officer
of said Regiment, that he was except
at the time of the battles aforesaid generally
Scouting or ranging between the Edisto &
the Ageahee [not clear] Rivers, that Joshua Inman & Shedrick Inman were officers of Johnson's as well as Warmack's company, but does not recollect
their grade that he does not distinctly
recollect the names of any other officers with
whom he served as he was often detached
from the main companies in scouting
parties--

Also personally appeared at the same time
before the undersigned Judge of the County
Court of the said County of Mobile
in the said State of Alabama John
Mason of the said County, who made
Solemn oath that he is sixty seven years
of age & upwards - that after the fall
of Augusta, in the Revolutionary war
(Soon after the same) he saw the said
Noel Turner in the service of the United States
that he belonged to the regular
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[handwritten]
Army- that he saw the said Turner
several times performing duty - that
after that time he was well acquainted
with the said Turner in Barnwell District in the State of South Carolina
that affiant knew him in that place up
to the year 1807 or thereabouts, that he
afterwards knew him in the State of Mississippi, & has known him ever since
he has lived in the State of Alabama
and affiant further states that the
said Turner did without doubt, be-
long to the revolutionary army
his
Noel X Turner
mark
[signed] John Mason

Sworn to and subscribed
before me by the said Noel
Turner & John Mason Severally
this the 12 November 1835
[signed] Wm H Garrow 
Judge of the County
Court of Mobile County
Al.

And I do hereby declare the court
on which I preside being a Court of Record
that it is my opinion that the said
Noel Turner was a revolutionary soldier
served as he states-
[signed] Wm M Garrow Judge

I Henry Lewis his Clerk of the County
Court of Mobile County in the State of Alabama do hereby certify that the foregoing
Page 67

[handwritten]
contains the original proceedings of the
said Court in the matter of the application
of Noel Turner for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand & seal of Office this 12th
day of November 1835
= [signed] H. Lewis Clk

We Jacob G. Collins a Clergyman residing
in the County of Mobile in the State of Alabama and John Mason of the same County
hereby certify that we are well acquainted with
Noel Turner who has subscribed &
Sworn to the above declaration that
we believe him to be 71 years of age that
he is reputed & believed in the neighbor
hood where he resides to have been
soldier of the revolution & that
we concur in that opinion
[signed] Jacob G. Collins
[signed] John Mason

Subscribed & sworn to
this 12 Nov. 1835
[signed] Wm M Garrow
Judge County Court
Mobile County 

and I  do hereby give it as my opinion that the
said Noel Turner was a Revolutionary soldier and further certify that it appears
seal the said Jacob G Collins is a Clergyman
resident in Mobile County, and that
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[handwritten]
John Mason who has also signed
the same is a resident of said County
& is a credible person & that
their statement is entitled to credit
[signed] Wm M Garrow
Judge Cty Ct. M Cty

I Henry Lewis Clerk of the County Court of
Mobile County certify that the foregoing
contains the original proceedings before the
Honorable the Judge of the County Court
in the matter of the application of Noel
Turner for a pension-- Witness my hand
& Seal of Office this 12th Nov 1835-
[signed] H. Lewis Clk
Page 69

[typed]

Record of Ages.
Noel Turner Sen was born May 11th 1764
Sarah Turner was born Feb. 2d. 1767.
Enoch Turner was born Oct. 29th 1788.
Charles Turner ...do...do. Oct 8th 1790.
Mary Turner ...do...do.. Oct. 14th 1792.
Cloey Turner ...do...do..  Feb 14 1795.
Sarah Turner ...do...do..  Aug. 19th 1797.
Nicy Turner .....do...do.. Feb. 5th 1800.
William Turner ...do...do..  July 30th 1802.
John Turner ...do...do.. Feb. 9th 1805.
Noel Turner Jr. ...do...do... Aug. 8th 1807.
James Turner .....do...do.. . Nov. 19th 1810.
Henry Turner...do...do..  Dec. 4th 1813.

Noel Turner. Sen. Deceased in the year of our Lord 1837. January the 21st
Page 70

[typed]
Law Division.
CAM

June 23, 1913.

The Chief of the
Finance Division,

Sir: 
Referring to your slip of the 11th instant, in which you state that you have received money order #464,391 for 36.25
from Horace Turner, of Mobile, Ala., you are advised that the same was forwarded to pay for certified copies of papers in
the case of Sarah, widow of Noel Turner, South Carolina Troops
Revolutionary War, File No. 6323, and said order should be disposed
of in accordance with the instructions of the Secretary
of September 23, 1912.
Respectfully,
[signed] S. A. Cuddy
["Commissioner" is crossed out]
Chief, Law Div.
Page 71

[typed]
Law Division.
June 23, 1913.

Mr. Horace Turner,
Turner-Hartwell Docks Company,
Mobile, Alabama.

Sir:
In compliance with your request of the 7th instant, received the 11th instant, for certified copies of papers filed in the pension case of Sarah Turner, widow of Noel Turner, South Carolina Troops, Revolutionary War, Widow's
File No. 6323, you will find the same herewith enclosed.

Respectfully,
C. M Saltzgaber
Commissioner.
Page 72

[typed]
Law Division
3 - 1868
__________
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR WDC.
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
WASHINGTON, D. C. June 3, 1913.
']
Mr. [struck through with a ? over it "Thomas Turner,
Care of Horace Turner & Co.,
Mobile, Alabama.

Sir:
In response to your letter of the 27th ult., received
the 29th, requesting copies of the records of this Bureau
pertaining to the Revolutionary War claim of Noel Turner,
and of his widow, Sarah Turner, Widow's File No. 6323, you
are advised that it is not practicable in this case for
the Bureau to furnish photographic copies of said papers.
The act of Congress of August 24, 1912, provides that the
Bureau shall charge 15 cents per folio for furnishing
copies of records of the Bureau, with 25 cents additional
for the certification thereto.
There are forty folios in the records of which you
desire copies and the cost thereof will be $6.25.
If you will return this correspondence with a certified
check, draft or postoffice money order for said sum
drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior, with

[round stamp]
U.S. Pension Office
L
Jun 11 1913
Page 73

[typed]

a statement showing the purpose for which you desire said
copies, the same will be furnished if it be deemed proper
to do so, upon receipt of your reply.
Respectfully,
[signed] G M Saltzgaber
Commissioner.

[round stamp]
U.S. Pension Office.
L
Jun
11
1913
Page 74

[handwritten]
Rev Sec
H 

Faison N.C.
April 6 - 1916

Pension Bureau
Washington D.C.

Please send me a certificate of Noel Turner's Revolutionary Service - He drew a pension from March 4 - 1812 - till Jan 21 - 1837
He was from Mobile Co Alabama
Very Truly
Mrs. W. T. Hines
Page 75

[handwritten]
The copies of which these are
the carbons were sent to the
Law Div. for transmittal to
Mr Horace Turner, June 13, 1913
Page 76

[printed letterhead]

Horace Turner, Pres. & Treas
Harry T. Hartwell, Vice Pres.
Guy J. Hartwell, 2nd Vice Presi.
Powell Williams, Manager
H. Marshall Higley, Secretary
Turner Hartwell Docks Co.
Cable Address "Turnerdock"
Mobile, Ala. June 7/913.13
Commissioner, Bureau of Pensions,

[typed]
Hon. G. M. Saltzgaber,
Commissioner, Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir: - 
As per your letter of June 3rd, I enclose $6.25 to cover costs of copying War claim of Noel and Sarah Turner. I want these copies for a family record. Noel was an ancestor of the writer.

If any further explanation necessary, please let me know. If the explanation must be in any particular form, why you might defer action until the writer is in Washington. I will
have to go back again before one of the Senate Committees and can then have one of my friends in the Senate vouch for my
request. Perhaps the recommendation of Mr. Luther M. Walter, formerly Attorney of the Interstate Commerce Commission and my
intimate friend, who is in Washington almost every week or two, might be sufficient. Or, if you prefer, I will ask Mr. Walter to see Secretary Lane as to my request, simply let me know what I must do to conform to your requirements.
Very truly,
[signed] Horace Turner

[round stamp]
U.S. Pension Office. 
L 
Jun 
11
1913

[handwritten in left margin]
Miss Wilson:
Please forward copies requested to this Division
J W P[illegible signature], Law Div.
6/11/13
Page 77

[printed form completed in handwriting]
[round stamp]
[Division of [illegible] Law  June 11 1913]
3-816.
Bureau of Pensions,
Finance Division,
June 11, 1913

Chief of Law Div
Sir:
I have this day received from Horace Turner M.O. No. 464,391
for $6 25/100 [struck through "representing refundment of an improper payment."]

Case of [blank]
Certificate No. [blank]

For certified copies of pension papers as per letter herewith

Very respectfully,
W. N. Campbell [signed]
Chief of Division.

4814b2m7-02
Page 78

[letterhead]
Cable Address "HTURNERCO."
Horace Turner & Co
Export Lumber.

Codes {A.B.C. 4th & 5th Editions,
Southard, Western Union.}

MOBILE, ALA. May 27 / 913.

[typed letter] 
Hon. J. L. Davenport,
Commissioner of the Interior,
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir: -
I thank you for the information contained in yours of May 21st, regarding the war record of Noel Turner, (W. F 6323) I am anxious to secure a copy of all papers forming part of this
pension record, also the papers to pension application of Sarah Turner, executed January 16, 1855, and if my request is out of the
ordinary run I would appreciate your turning same over to some competent stenographer, who would be willing to make this record,
at my expense. I would really like to obtain photographic copies, if possible, and if there is any one who makes a specialty of this work would appreciate your turning this letter over to such photographer.
Very truly,
[signed] Horace Turner

[handwritten below]
Miss Wilson - 
Revol. War Section
For number of sheets to be to
photographed - counting front & back
as 2 sheets - and whether Mr.
Turner has heretofore stated
the purpose for which he
desires copies -
Return to Law Div
[signed] JP 5/31/13

not feasible to photo these papers  they are put together so closely & sewn as well as tied together
CW
40 folios

[round stamp]
U.S. Pension Office.
May 29 1913
Page 79

[letterhead]
Cable Address "HTURNERCO."
Horace Turner & Co
Export Lumber.

Codes {A.B.C. 4th & 5th Editions,
Southard, Western Union.}

MOBILE, ALA. ?ay 13/ 913.

[typed letter]
Commissioner of the Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir: - Will you kindly advise me if the name of Noel Turner shows in the Revolutionary War records of your office? I will gladly pay any costs necessary to examine the records, if the search is a lengthy one, and would appreciate your turning this communication over to some one making a specialty of this kind of work. Noel Turner was with Washington's Army, though only a young man at the time, and as he married in North Carolina it is possible he came from this state.

Yours truly,
[signed] Horace Turner
Page 80

[left page handwritten]

1913, May 21. Hist. to Horace Turner. F.W.
1916, Apr. 14. History to Mrs. W. T. Hines. F.W.

[right page printed completed in handwriting]

Revy Widow, &c.
-----------
File No. 6-323
Sarah Turner
Widow
Noel Turner
Privt Rev War
__________
Act: Feb 3d   1848
Index: - Vol. M, Page 285
[Arrangement of 1870.]