Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 23003, for Silas Southerland, New York
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Service
New York

Southerland, Silas     
or Sutherland
Number
S23003

Contents
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Reported
Let to Hon Wm Nelson Jan18 /49
Lett. to J.L. Mitchell Apr 14 /49

3262 [ink smeared]
New York

Silas Southerland, decd. of Westchester Co in the State of New York who was a Sergeant in the Compy commanded by Captain --- in the Regt. commanded by --- in the N.Y. Revolution [line crossed out] for 15 months, 5 days

Inscribed on the Roll of [Albany -crossed out] New York City at the rate of 75 Dollars 83 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1831 and ending 10th Decr., 1846.

Certificate of Pension issued the 16 day of Oct. 1848 and sent to Wm Valentine Esqr. of Albany
Now Present

Arrears to the 4th of [blank] Semi anl. allowance ending Mar- Payable to Silas Sutherland only surviving child

{Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832}

Recorded by Th. Lumpkin Clerk,
Book E2 Vol. 4 Page 69
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No. 37560
Silas Southerland [?]
[?]
Act 7 June 1832
Died 10 Decem 1846
Adm. 15 mo 5 days
Sergeant

$75.83 per an fm 4 March 1831 to 10 Decem 1846 the day of his death payable to Silas Southerland only surviving child of Silas Southerland  Awd
 William Valentine of Albany Present
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Supreme Court
Special Term }

State of New York
County of Westchester } ss:

Court of Special Sessions Supreme Court [whole line crossed out] 

On this 7th day of September 1847 in open court personally appeared Silas Southerland a resident of North Castle in said county Aged seventy years last January who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the pension which was due his father and as
he is informed and believes is now due this declarant, the only child, under the Act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832.

That he is one and the only child of Silas Sutherland who was a Sergeant in the War of the Revolution and served under Captain Hobby and Captain Lyon in the Militia of Westchester County where he resided during said War.  That he has frequently heard his said father and others tell of his service in said war, but the reasons why his said father did not make application for a pension in his life time, is as follows viz he resided so far in the interior of the country that he was not satisfactorily informed whether or not a person who only served in the Militia was entitled to a pension, and if they were, he did not know of any who were his comrades in the service, that were living, by whom to prove his service, and therefore never made any application and this declarant was not
satisfactorily informed of his fathers rights, until within six months this past, being since the death of his father.  Declarant further
saith that his father the said Silas Sutherland died on the tenth day of December one thousand eight hundred and forty six and at the time of his death left no widow, but left
him surviving only one child viz this declarant. 
 And this declarant further saith that the date of his said father's birth is recorded in an ancient family Bible of his said father, which bible is now in the possession of this declarant.

Silas Sutherland

Subscribed and Sworn to, in open court this 7th day of September 1847

Munson I Lockwood
Clerk W.C. Co. Courts
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I Munson Lockwood Clerk of the County of Westchester and Clerk of the Courts of said County, do hereby certify that I was personally acquainted with Silas Sutherland decd and within named, and also am acquainted with his son Silas within named and verily believe the written statement to be entitled to entire confidence.  

Munson I Lockwood
Clerk of the said Courts and County the seal of said County attached by Chauncey Smith, Dept Clk
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Letter Stanwich July 3rd 1847

Dear Sir,

I first became acquainted with the late Silas Sutherland about the close of the year 1795; and then found him a member of the church in this place, though he lived a little over the line in North Castle as was the case with several others.  By looking at my records, I find that he was chosen deacon February 21st, 1799.  

I may have heard him speak of his serving in the Militia in the Revolutionary War, and under whom, but I cannot now recollect enough about these things to bear any testimony, it being so long ago.  Nor can I now recollect of hearing speak about making application for a pension, or the reason he did not.  I may and I may not.  This I can say, that for 50 years and a little more, I have lived on the borders or near the line of Weschester County and often travelled and visited in that County, been acquainted with many old people there, but never to my recollection heard one, male or female, speak of any other Silas Sutherland than the one just mentioned, as having lived in the County during the Revolutionary War, or since.  I am in the full belief that there was no other by that name in that part of New York State. #
Yours respectfully.  Platt C Buffett
# P.S.  The son Silas living where his father did, excepted.
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I hereby certify that according to my Record, Deacon Silas Sutherland died Decemr 10th 1846

Platt Buffett
Cah Pastor of Stanwich Church

It is my decided opinion that said Silas Sutherland, the son of the late Silas Sutherland who served in the Militia under Captains Hobby and Lyon in the Revolutionary War is a man of strict veracity, and that his statements under oath, are to be relied upon as correct and according to facts.  

Platt Buffett

Fairfield County State of Connecticut, Ss Greenwich 13th Day of September 1847 the above named Platt Buffett appeared and made oath to the truth of within and above

Before me Erastus Rundle Justice of the Peace
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I hereby certify that the above named Platt Buffet has been Pastor of the Congregational Church in Stanwick for more than twenty five years in good standing.  I have been acquainted with him during his ministerial labours, and his character for truth and veracity is good.  

Harwich September 23rd 1847

Erastus Rundle Justice of the Peace

State of Connecticut
Fairfield County } ss:  

I Thomas Robinson Clerk of the County Court in and for the County aforesaid and keeper of the seal thereof, and of the commissions of the Justices of the Peace for aforesd County, do hereby certify that Erastus Rundle Esq is now, and at the dates respectively of the two foregoing certificates by him subscribed, was a Justice of the Peace for sd County duly commissioned and acting as such and duly authorised by the laws of this state to administer oaths and take the acknowledgment of deeds, that his commission is dated June 19th 1847 and will expire with the 19th June 1848.  And I further certify that I am acquainted with the handwriting of sd Rundle and believe the signatures to the two foregoing certificates purporting to be his to be his genuine official signatures.  

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of sd County Court in Norwalk this 4th day of October 1847

Thomas Robinson Clerk
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Platt Buffett  Letter
recd July 5th /47
Sutherland

Stanwich Conn    5
July 3rd

Mr. Wm. Valentine
Albany N Y.

This Letter was recd in answer to one I wrote Mr Buffett on the 16th June 1847

W. Valentine
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State of New York
County of Westchester } 

Martha Lyon of Bedford in said county Aged eighty four years the third day of July last as appears from the family record of her father.  Who being first sworn according to law Deposith that she was born in the town of North Castle Westchester County State of New York but has resided in the town of Bedford for the last sixty years, that she has been acquainted with Silas Sutherland decd late of the town of North Castle from her earliest recollection untill his death never knew any other Silas Sutherland nor believes there was any other of that name within the military beat [?] of Capt Hobby or Capt Lyon knew that he served as a Sergeant in Capt Holly's company has often seen him under arms and heard him say he was a Sergeant and also heard others call him Sergeant Sutherland.  Deponent also saith that whilst said Sutherland was away from home on duty she frequently staid with Mrs Sutherland the wife of the said Silas Sutherland for some weeks at a time and has seen him leave home and return with his equipments on that is his gun and bayonet and Deponent has no doubt that Silas Sutherland served as a Sergeant in Capt Gilbert Lyons Co but does not remember particularly of hearing him say so, but distinctly remembers of his serving under Capt Hobby and has heard her brothers say the same never knew any Silas Sutherland other than the one before mentioned except his son Silas now living at the House where his father died.  

Martha X her mark Lyon

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 20th day of September 1847

Jabez Robertson
Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
Westchester County ss:} 

I Jabez Robertson a Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Westchester residing in the town of Bedford in said County, do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Martha Lyon the deponent named in the within deposition and have been for many years, and further state that she is a worthy member of the Baptist Church in the town of Bedford, and that full faith and credit is due to her testimony.  Given under my hand this 20th day of September 1847.  

Jabez Robertson
Justice of the Peace

Westchester County ss}

I the above named Justice of the Peace do further certify that Mrs Martha Lyon who made her mark to the within deposition, is active, inteligent  [intelligent] and retains her faculties and memory well for a person of her age, she made her mark to the said deposition because she could not write her name, as she stated at the time.  Given under my hand this 28th day of September 1847.  

Jabez Robertson
Justice of the Peace
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State of New York, 
County of Westchester, ss.

I, MUNSON I. LOCKWOOD, Clerk of the County aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That Jabez Robertson whose name is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a JUSTICE OF THE PEACE in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State.  And, further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, this [?] day of October 1847.

Munson I Lockwood, Clerk.
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State of New York
County of Westchester ss} 

Jeremiah Green of North Castle in said county aged Eighty Two years the thirteenth day of last May as appears by his father's family Record who being duly sworn according to law Deposith that he was born in the town where he now resides and has lived there ever since that from his earliest recollection was acquainted with Silas Sutherland (deceased) late of said town County and State untill the death of said Sutherland that he has heard said Sutherland frequently say he was in the service and served as a Sergeant.  

Deponent also saith that he was acquainted with Capt Lyon and Capt Hobby and that the said Silas Sutherland resided during the revolution in the same vicinity and within the military beat with the said Caps Lyon and Hobby and deponent doth not know or believe there was any other person of the name of Silas Sutherland who resided in said vicinity during or since the Revolutionary war except his son Silas who now lives where his father died.  

Jeremiah Green

Subscribed and sworn to before me this twenty eighth day of Sept Eighteen Hundred and forty seven

John Ferris Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Jeremiah Green above named and have been so acquainted for the last twenty years that he is a man of undoubted honesty and veracity and of sound mind and memory.  

John Ferris Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
County of Westchester ss } 

Silas Sutherland of North Castle in said county Aged seventy years the thirteenth day of January last as appears by his father's family Record who being first duly sworn according to law, Deposith that the leaf containing the record of his father's birth and appended to this deposition was taken from his father's family Bible and was written by his father John Sutherland.  Deponent believes that his brother copied from an old Record belonging to his Grandfather and given to some of his children to deponent unknown.  

Silas Sutherland

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 17th day of Sept. 1847

John Ferris Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Silas Sutherland above named and have been for the last 15 years and that he is a man of truth and veracity and of good faculties.  And I further certify that I saw the leaf containing the record of the age of Silas Sutherland [?] torn from the family bible and attached to this affidavit.  

John Ferris Justice
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Beck. Bought. 1795
AD 
Silas Sutherland was Born Feb 5 [1768?]
Sarah Sutherland Do Sept 24th 17[?2?] 
Silas Sutherland Jnr Do January 30th 1777 [?]
Sarah Sutherland Do March 27th 17[?]
Levinah Sutherland Do July 2 1780
John Sutherland Do. March 10th 1783

1846
1755
-----
91

born Feby 5th 1755
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State of New York
County of Westchester
Surrogate's Court ss: }

On this 11th day of October 1847 it was proved by the adduction of testimony satisfactory to said Court that Silas Sutherland of North Castle in said County died on the tenth day of December one thousand eight hundred and forty six and at the time of his death left him surviving, no widow, and only one child viz Silas Sutherland and that he is over twenty one years of age.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the official seal of said Court at White Plains, the day and year first above written.  

Lewis C Platt
Surrogate
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State of New York
County of Westchester ss } 

Mary Ann Ferris a pensioner from and under the Government of the United States, widow of Thomas Ferris (deceased) of the town of North Castle in said County Aged eighty seven years in July last past the sixteenth day as appears from her family Record being first duly sworn according to law Deposith that she was born in the town where she now resides and has lived there ever since, That from her earliest recollection was acquainted with Silas Sutherland (decd) late of said Town County and State untill the death of said Sutherland Deponent never knew any other man of the name of Silas Sutherland except his son Silas living on the premises of his father Deponent knew that the family were called whigs and were obliged to remove their effects out of the reach of the enemy for safety has not the least doubt that said Sutherland served as a soldier in the revolution but has no distinct recollection of the fact.  

Maryann Ferris

Subscribed and sworn to before me this fourth day of October in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty seven

Drake Waterbury justice of the peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Mary Ann Ferris above named and have been for the last forty years and that she is a very worthy member of the Methodist Episcopal Church and that her faculties of mind and memory are as good if not better than most persons of her age and that full faith and credit may be given to either her word or oath.  

Drake Waterbury justice of the peace
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State of New York, 
COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER, ss.

I, MUNSON I. LOCKWOOD, Clerk of the County aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That Drake Waterbury Esq whose name is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a JUSTICE OF THE PEACE in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State.  And, further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.  

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the [?] day of October 1847

Munson I Lockwood Clerk.
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State of New York
County of Westchester ss }

Edwin Lawrence of North Castle in said County Aged forty six years the first day of February last as appears from the record of his parents who being first duly sworn according to law Deposith that he has lived in the neighborhood of Silas Sutherland (deceased) for many years and has been intimately acquainted with him for thirty years before his death, and that he died on the tenth day of December one thousand eight Hundred and forty six.  Deponent assisted in laying out the body Deponent also saith that the said Silas Sutherland left no widow at the time of his death, and but one child named Silas Sutherland who is now about seventy years of age.  Deponent further saith that he has heard said Silas Sutherland (deceased) say that he was in the service and was better entitled to a pension # than many who got one, Deponent never knew any other Silas Sutherland nor has heard of any other within the military but of Capt Hobby or Capt Lyon or elsewhere; except his son now residing on the premises where his father died.  

[# note on left side of paper] # meaning of those who served in the Militia only.

Edwin Lawrence

Subscribed and sworn to before me this seventh [?] day of Oct. one thousand eight Hundred and forty seven
John Ferris Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Edwin Lawrence above named and have been so acquainted for the last fifteen years, that he is a worthy member of the Methodist Episcopal Church and is also a man of intelligence truth and veracity whose faculties are good and on whose oath full faith and credit may be relied

John Ferris Justice of the Peace
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State of New York,
COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER, ss.

I, MUNSON I. LOCKWOOD, Clerk of the County aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That John Ferris Esq whose name is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a JUSTICE OF THE PEACE in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State. And, further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the [?]eenth day of October 1847

Munson I Lockwood Clerk.
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In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled " An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz : 

1st July 1777  |  Silas Sutherland Sergt  |  £ 8.0.0
10th Nov 1777  |  do [ditto]  do  |  6.8.0
14th July 1778  |  do  do  |  6.8.0
28th July 1779  |  do  do  |  8.18.8
9th June 1780  |  do  do  |  8.0.0
20th [?] Do [1780]  |  do  do  |  17.6.8
29th Oct Do  |  do  do  |  --.18.8
11th Dec Do  |  do  do  |  5.6.8

[Sum]  60.6.8

STATE OF NEW-YORK, 
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, October 10th 1847. } 

I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2.3.& 9 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz : 

First - under Capt. David Hobby in Col. Thomas Thomas Reg't. 
Second " " do " " do "
Third " " do " " do "
Fourth " " do " " do "
Fifth " " Gilbert Lyon " " do "
Sixth " " do " " do "
Seventh " " do " " do "
Eighth " " do " " do "
Ninth " " -- " " -- "
Tenth " " -- " " -- "
Eleventh " " -- " " -- "
Twelfth " " -- " " -- "

Philip Phelps
Dep Comp
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State of New York 
Chenango County } ss.

William Banks of Bainbridge in said County being duly sworn deposith and saith, that he was born in the town of North Castle in the County of Westchester and state of New York in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty three and lived there until the year one thousand eight hundred and four when he removed to the town of Bainbridge where he now resides, that he was well acquainted with Deacon Silas Sutherland who resided in the said town of North Castle, and was very intimate with his family from his earliest recollection until he removed from there in the year 1804, that the said Deacon Silas Sutherland had four children viz Sally, Serina, Silas and John who have all been dead a number of years excepting his son Silas, whom this deponent saw in the month of April last at the town of Bedford in the County of Westchester aforesaid, that he has frequently heard the said Deacon Silas Sutherland speak of being in the Militia in the war of the revolution; that this deponent went to the said town of North Castle in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty seven and got the said Deacon Silas Sutherland to make an affidavit respecting what he knew of his father Samuel Bank's services in the war of the revolution; that this deponent saw the said Deacon Silas Sutherland sign the said affidavit and swear to it, and that he sent the same with the other affidavits and proofs in the application of Charity Banks, widow of the said Samuel Banks for a pension, to the Pension Office at
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Washington; that the said Deacon Silas Sutherland then told this deponent that he was out with the militia at different times in the war of the revolution, and some past or all of the time as a sergeant.  I do not recollect how long or at what places he said he was in the service; that this deponent afterwards sent and got a second affidavit of the said Deacon Silas Sutherland which this deponent also sent on to the Pension Office at Washington with other papers in the matter of the application of Charity Banks for a pension; and that this deponent verily believes from what he has been told by his father and other persons who were in the militia during the war of the revolution that the said Deacon Silas Sutherland was in the service during said war at different times and during [crossed out: said war] a considerable portion thereof, And this deponent further saith that he [crossed out: has] knew David Hobby and Gilbert Lyon as long ago as he can remember, that they both resided in the said town of North Castle, the said David Hobby between one and two miles from said Deacon Silas Sutherland, and the said Gilbert Lyon about three miles, that this deponent always understood that they lived on the same farms and at the same places during the war of the revolution and that they were both officers in said war and that the said David Hobby went by the name and was called Colonel Hobby and that the said Gilbert Lyon went by the name and was called Captain Lyon.  

Wm Banks

Sworn by me on August 26 1848

Uri Tracy Justice of the Peace
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State of New York 
Chenango County } ss. 

I B. B. Andrews Clerk of the County Courts of the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that Uri Tracy is a Justice of the Peace in and for said County and was at the date of the foregoing affidavit duly elected and qualified to act as such, and that his signature to said Affidavit is genuine.  In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal Court and County this 26th day of August 1848

Porter E Clark Dep. Clerk
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State of New York
County of West Chester } ss.

Silas Sutherland of North Castle in said County being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration, supplementary and explanatory to thou which he has heretofore made in his application for the pension which was due his father Silas Sutherland due under the Act of June 7th, 1832 and now on file in the pension office; That the services which purports to have been performed by Silas Sutherland as appears by the annexed Certificate of the Comptroller of New York was performed by this Declarant's father and no other person, that this Declarant is enabled to make this statement from numerous circumstances in connection with the fact that his father always said that he served in the Militia of Westchester County during the War of the Revolution and at that time resided in the Town, County and State where this declarant now resides and where said service was performed, Declarant saith that he has heard many others state in substance as to his father's services as aforesaid, and declarant has never had or heard a doubt expressed to the contrary from which in connection with a variety of other facts and circumstances this declarant makes the foregoing statement.  And this declarant having stated in a former Declaration that the reason his father did not make application for a pension in his life time was because he did not know of the Act of 1832, by which Declarant wishes to be understood that his father had no knowledge of any pension law or laws by which soldiers or widows were entitled to pensions for militia services only, but supposed and believed that none were entitled except those who were regular enlisted soldiers, he heard his father say he could not testify that he was a regular enlisted soldier, as he believed others were obliged to do, in order to obtain pensions.  And this declarant has
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never stated or designed to state that his father did not know of any law by which soldiers and widows were entitled and received pensions, but on the contrary his father did know that many made applications and was informed they received pensions, but he believed only for services claimed as above stated, Declarant has heard his father say that if those persons who served only in the militia was entitled to pensions he was also [illegible over fold] he was not so informed satisfactorily, and did not so believe, and therefore could not make the requisite Declaration under oath or otherwise, which this Declarant verily believes is the cause and the only cause his father did not make application for a pension in his life time, Declarant also saith that his father was a Deacon of the Church, was strictly pious and conscientious and would not attempt to make any statement which he did not know or believe was correct in every particular.  And further that declarant's father was the identical person who made affidavits in the case of Charity Bank, widow of Samuel Bank decd in her application for a pension.  

Silas Sutherland

Subscribed and sworn to before me this twenty eighth day of August 1848 the words "widows" and "not" inserted before execution.

John Ferris Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I have known Silas Sutherland for the last fifteen years and from such knowledge can unhesitantingly declare that he is a man of sound mind and memory and whose word or oath full faith and credit may be placed thereon.

John Ferris Justice of the Peace
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[Persons making application at the Comptroller's, or Secretary of State's Office, for searches, or certificates of service of any person, in the army of the U.S. during the revolutionary war, should give the name and ranks held by such person; the nature of the service; whether in the Infantry, Cavalry, or Artillery, &c.; in the regular army or militia; the names of the officers commanding the regiments and companies at the time of enlistment, service and discharge, as near as can be given.  The names should be given with care, and in a legible hand.  

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:  

1777 July 1 Silas Sutherland Sergt No. of Cert'e issued, 43.346 £ 08 00 00
" Nov 10 Do Do do " " " 43.309 06 08 00
1778 July 14 Do Do Do " " " 9636 06 00 00
1779 July 28 Do Do Do " " " 43.268 08 18 08
1780 June 10 Do Do Do " " " 10.073 08 00 00
" Oct 29 Do Do Do " " " 10 459 00 18 08
" Dec 11 Do Do Do " " " 43.380 05 06 08
[Remainder cut off by overlapping paper]

State of New York, 
COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER, ss.

I, MUNSON I. LOCKWOOD, Clerk of the County aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That John Ferris Esquire, whose name is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgment of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said Certificate, a Justice of the Peace, in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State.  And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.  

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the Twenty ninth day of August 1848

M. I. Lockwood Clerk.

STATE OF NEW-YORK, 
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany August 22nd 1848. } 

I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2.3.9 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz:  

First -- under Capt. David Hobby in Col. Thomas Thomas' Regiment.  
Second " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Third " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Fourth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Fifth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Sixth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Seventh " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Eighth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Ninth " " - - ' " - - " 
Tenth " " - - ' " - - " 
Eleventh " " - - ' " - - " 
Twelfth " " - - ' " - - " 
Thirteenth " " - - ' " - - " 
Fourteenth " " - - ' " - - " 
Fifteenth " " - - ' " - - " 

I have examined the rolls for the above, and find £ 60.18.08 to be correct.  } 

John Hancock, Examining Clerk.

Millard Fillmore, Comptroller.
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[Persons making application at the Comptroller's, or Secretary of State's Office, for searches, or certificates of service of any person, in the army of the U.S. during the revolutionary war, should give the name and ranks held by such person; the nature of the service; whether in the Infantry, Cavalry, or Artillery, &c.; in the regular army or militia; the names of the officers commanding the regiments and companies at the time of enlistment, service and discharge, as near as can be given.  The names should be given with care, and in a legible hand.  

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:  

1777 July 1 Silas Sutherland Sergt No. of Cert'e issued, 43.346 £ 08 00 00
" Nov 10 Do Do do " " " 43.309 06 08 00
1778 July 14 Do Do Do " " " 9636 06 00 00
1779 July 28 Do Do Do " " " 43.268 08 18 08
1780 June 10 Do Do Do " " " 10.073 08 00 00
" Oct 29 Do Do Do " " " 10 459 00 18 08
" Dec 11 Do Do Do " " " 43.380 05 06 08
" Oct 20 Do Do Do " " " 43.408 17 06 08

£ 60 18 08

STATE OF NEW-YORK, 
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany August 22nd 1848. } 

I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2.3.9 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz:  

First -- under Capt. David Hobby in Col. Thomas Thomas' Regiment.  
Second " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Third " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Fourth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Fifth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Sixth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Seventh " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Eighth " " Do Do " " Do Do "
Ninth " " - - ' " - - " 
Tenth " " - - ' " - - " 
Eleventh " " - - ' " - - " 
Twelfth " " - - ' " - - " 
Thirteenth " " - - ' " - - " 
Fourteenth " " - - ' " - - " 
Fifteenth " " - - ' " - - " 

I have examined the rolls for the above, and find £ 60.18.08 to be correct.  } 

John Hancock, Examining Clerk.

Millard Fillmore, Comptroller.
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State of New York
County of Westchester ss }

Silas Sutherland of the town of North Castle in said County aged seventy one years the thirtieth day of January last as appears from his family record who being duly sworn according to law Deposith that he was born in the town where he now resides (North Castle) and has lived there ever since with the exception of about four years in the City and County of New York that he has lived in the House of his Father and in the same family for nineteen years previous to his death Deponent has heard his father say that he had never made application for a pension and Deponent feels confident that during the nineteen last years of his life he did not apply as he Deponent would have known it if he had; Neither does deponent believe that his father knew that there was a Law by which a man serving in the militia could obtain a pension Deponent feels confident that his father knew nothing of the law of eighteen Hundred and thirty two or he would have mentioned it to him Deponent did not know of the law himself until some time after the death of his father deponent never knew of any one calling on his  father concerning a pension during his life; the only effort ever made to his knowledge to obtain a pension for his father's services is the one now being made through Mr William Valentine ensign, Agent at his request.  

Silas Sutherland

Subscribed and sworn to before me this seventh day of February 1848

John Ferris Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Silas Sutherland above named and have been so acquainted for the last fifteen years that he is a man of sound mind and memory a very worthy man on whom full reliance may be placed and entitled to full faith and credit under oath. 

John Ferris Justice of the Peace
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State of New York, 
COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER, ss.

I, MUNSON I. LOCKWOOD, Clerk of the County aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That John Ferris and Frederick G. Read Esquires, whose names are subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgment of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, were, on the day of the date of the said Certificate, a Justice of the Peace, in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State.  And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.  

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the twenty first day of February 1848

M. I. Lockwood Clerk.
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State of New York 
County of Westchester ss } 

James Hopkins of the town of Greenwich County of Fairfield and State of Connecticut Aged eighty  one years the fourteenth of October [?] last as appears from his family record who being first duly sworn according to law Deposith that he was born in the town of North Castle in the County of Westchester and State of New York and has lived in the last mentioned Town the most of his life within three miles of Silas Sutherland and has known him for the most of his life.  Deponent was more intimately acquainted with him in the after part of his life having frequently visited him and conversed [?] about the war of the revolution heard Sutherland say he had served in the Militia or had been out under Capt Lyon.  Deponent had often heard him speak of his services and has not the least doubt but they were faithfully rendered.  Deponent never knew nor believes that the said Sutherland had made application for a pension during his life but thinks in the many conversations with him on the subject of the war if he had he would have mentioned it to him.  Deponent never knew any other Silas Sutherland excepting his son Silas now living on the premises formerly occupied by his father.  

James Hopkins

Subscribed and sworn to before me this fourteenth day of February 1848

Frederick G. Read, Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with James Hopkins above named and have been so acquainted for the last fifteen years that he is a sound intelligent man  who has filled with universal satisfaction that first Office in the town of North Castle for very many years (Supervisor) and whose word or oath may be relied upon as unquestionable that he has served as Supervisor in this Town (North-Castle) eight or ten years to my knowledge.  

Frederick G. Read, Justice of the Peace
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[Faded]

N. Sarles Sutherland 
July 31st /78

5
William [cut off]
North Castle 
July
28

[Upside down]
John J. Slingerland
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North Castle July 27th 1848

Dear Sir

Your favor of the 21st came to hand last evening (Wednesday 25th) having been somewhere delayed as many others have been.  In obedience to your request I called on Mr Sutherland to-day and obtained his father's signature on a little book used in settling his father's estate the grandfather of the present Sutherland his name you will find written on the outside [h?]of and all the rest is his writing so says son I overhauled many papers and all notes of hand his signature had been torn off and I could not find any thing that appeared so clearly  to be his hand as this therefore I send it.  I made enquiry concerning the affidavits that he had given to others and although they are sure he had given several, they could not recollect of but one that they were certain of, that is the case of Charity Banks through her son Wm Banks she resided at the time and probably continues to reside at Bainbridge in Broome or Chenango County in this state.  I told him to try to bring to mind others and let me know if you should wish such information.  The case of Waterberry I think he told me had been abandoned by Wm Bumpkins [?] who first understood it, it is to obtain a pension for the widow, not for Children as you suggested however I do not know that the proof to be obtained would be so clear as would be desirable now. 

Yours truly [? A Searles?]
Wm Valentine Esqr
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Silas Sutherland
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[Left Column]

For [illegible]
For going to Stanford 1 12
For going to Stanford 1 0
For Inventorying 1 50
For going to Doctor Belcher 0 50
For tending the vendue [?] 0 50
For going to Eqr Meads 0 50

[Right Column]

An Count of things bought of value
one shovel [illegible] 0 5 0 
one [?] 0 3 4
one [?] 0 3 3
one tin pan 0 4 0
one Cradle [?] 0 2 6
five pounds of feathers 0 16 0
one kechel [?] 0 11 0
one peace of Cart tine [?] 0 5 0
[illegible] 0 3 6
one old saddle 0 1 1

[Total] 2 14 8
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The acounpt [account?] of my time and money that I spent a settling my father's estate 
to one day to Stanford 1 - 0
to one Do to Sanford 1 - 0
to 3 days taking inventory 2 - 25
to 3 days Do Stan / buting [?] and Ivain Dowing 2 - 25
to one day settling the debts 1 - 0
to one day settling the Books 0 - 75
to my time spent [Sobling?] oaths 2 - 0

[Total] 10 - 25
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December 4th 1790
Dollars Cents
Then paid to the Court of probate 2.75
Paid to the Court of Probate 3.50
For Advertiseing paid 6.75
For [illegible] bought for [illegible] 1.12
For destributing the [illegible] [illegible] [illegible] 1.50
and Jermiah Green 0.75
Paid to Mary Finch 0.25
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[illegible] [illegible] a bill of 15 Dollars paid to Stephen Sutherland
37 Dollars 50 Cents
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No. 37560
Silas Southerland do
NY
Let. to Wm Valentine
Nov. 10. '47
Let to same March 28 '48

Act 7 June 1832
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No. 37560
Silas Southerland 
NY
Let to Wm Valentine Nov 10 '47
Let to same March 28, 48
Let. to J.J. Slingerland
August 7th '48
Let to same Augt 10 48

Act 7 June 32
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J.L. Edwards Esq.
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Albany N.Y. Nov 24th 1847
Sir
I have received a letter dated the 10th Inst signed "J.D. Wilson for the Commissioner of Pensions" in the case of Silas Sutherland decd. The requisitions of which is not in accordance with the rules and practice of the Department, not only so, but it seems to cast undue reflections upon the applicant and witnesses as well as the Agent. By a careful examination of the papers upon which this claim is founded, in my opinion, it should meet with quite a different reception and report. An allusion to all the various portions of the letter is deemed superfluous as I am of the opinion, the requisitions will not be persisted in, one of which is "That each tour of service must be specifically set forth by the claimant and all proved by the testimony of two or more witnesses who served in the same company and regiment" with Sutherland.
It will be borne in mind that this service was performed mostly in the early part of the war, and to find two person now living, who served in the same company or regiment would be about equal to, if not an impossibility, and in the language of the published rules of the Department under the Act of 1832". To require from the applicants positive proof of service from a contemporary survivor, would after a lapse of so many years be to deprive many of them of the benefits of the law" &c. This language certainly has a more forcible application now, than it had 15 years ago, besides, I have recently recd. a letter from the Department in which I am informed that applicants are required to furnish the best attainable evidence. Permit me also to refer the Department to the
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following language in the rules under the Act of 1836. Notwithstanding it is under that law it has an equal application & evidently so designed, under the Act of 1832. It reads as follows viz "In a case where the service of the deceased officer or soldier is clearly proved by word or documentary evidence, or the affidavit of a commissioned officer showing the grade and length of service of the deceased, the particulars in relation to the service are not required to be set forth in the claimants declaration except so far as to show that the claimant is or are the widow or children of the deceased."
The records of service in the Comptrollers office being open, can not, or should not alter the facts in his or any other meritorious claim, or the fact that Agents are hunting up these claims nor are these things new or unusual in the prosecution thereof.
I need not inform the Department that there are many persons who reside in the interior of the country & some even in our principal cities who are yet under the impression that none are entitled to pensions except those who were regular enlisted soldiers evidently from the fact that such was the case under the Act of 1818  of the Department have any doubts on this point they are easily removed.
The character of the claimant being so well sustained, it appears to me great injustice to cast any aflections upon him or even any of the testimony in the case. The ancient family record showing Mr Sutherlands age, in connection with the letter of the Revd. Mr. Buffett, voluntarily composed & subsequently sworn to, are very strong circumstances, if not alone sufficient to identify this Sutherland with the person who performed the service exhibited by the Comptrollers Certificate. It affords me pleasure to comply with all reasonable rules and req;uisitions, but when an impossibility is required or an unreasonable requisition in I beg leave respectfully to solicit a reconsideration of the entire matter.
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In conclusion permit me to say that it is my opinion the claim is just and meritorious if I did not believe so, I would not have presented it. I therefore respectfully, yet earnestly, solicit the Commissioner himself, to examine this claim and I shall confidently expect a favurable issue.
I am Yours very respectfully, Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards Esq
Comm of Pensions
Washington
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Albany N.Y. Oct 25th 1847
Sir
Enclosed is additional evidence in the case of Silas Sutherland deceased, forwarded on the 16th Inst, for the pension which was due him under the Act of June 7th 1832.
I am Yours very respectfully 
Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards
Comm of Pensions
Washington
Page 46

June 12. 1848
Case of Silas Sutherland, decd.
N. York.

Wm. Valentine
Albany N.Y.
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Albany N.Y. June 8th 1848
Sir
Mr. Edwards informed me before I left Washington that he would forward a report in the case of Silas Sutherland decd. which I have not yet recd.
I am Yours very respectfully Wm. Valentine

J.L. Edwards Esq
Comm of Pensions
Washington
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State of New York, County of Westchester ss
Samuel P. Smith of North Castle in County of Westchester aforesaid aged fifty years next spring according to the record of his family. Who being first duly sworn according to law deposith that he was born in the town where he now resides and has lived in said town ever since & has been acquainted with Silas Sutherland (deceased) from his earliest recolection [recollection] having lived within one and a half miles of him all his life. Deponeth has frequently heard from old people that said Sutherland was a soldier of the Revolution and served in the capacity of Searjeant under Captain Lyon and Hobby within whose beat as deponent has been informed he always lived and died. Deponent farther says that the prevaling opinion of the neighborhood where said Sutherland resided is that he was a soldier and served in the militia during the Revolutionary war. Deponent has not the least doubt in his own mind that such was the case. Samuel P. Smith
Subscribed & sworn to before me this twentieth day of October 1847. Frederick G. Read Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Samuel P. Smith above named and have been so acquainted for the last twenty years. That he is a man of intelligence of good morals sound mind and memory and on whose oath or word full faith and credit may be given and that he is a merchant and Post Master in the town where he resides.
Frederick G. Read, Justice of the Peace
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State of New York, County of Westchester, ss.
I, Munson I. Lockwood, Clerk of the County aforesaid, and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, Do Herby Certify, That Frederick G. Read Esqr whose named is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State. And, further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the twenty first day of October 1847.
Munson I. Lockwood Clerk.
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State of New York, County of Westchester ss
Nehemiah Sarles of North Castle in said county, aged forty eight years the thirtieth day of December last as appears from the record of the family of his Father who being first duly sworn according to law deposeth that he was born in the town of Pound Ridge Westchester County adjoining the town above mentioned and has lived in the town of North Castle above eight years. Deponent has frequently heard that Silas Sutherland (deceased) was a Revolutionary soldier from elderly people and knows that to be the prevaling opinion amongst his acquaintance. Deponent has lived over forty years within seven and some part, say ten years within three miles of said Sutherland and fully believes that said Sutherland served his country during the revolutionary war in the capacity of a Seargeant under Captain Hobby and Lyon within the military beat of which he always lived and died. Nehemiah Sarles

Subscribed & sworn to before me this twentieth day of October 1847
Frederick G. Read, Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Nehemiah Sarles above named and have been so acquainted for the last twenty years. That he has long been a teacher in good standing and a member of the P. E. Church, a man of inteligence sound mind and memory and on whose oath or word full confidence may be placed.
Frederick G. Read, Justice of the Peace
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State of New York, County of Westchester, ss.
I, Munson I. Lockwood, Clerk of the County aforesaid and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, Do Hereby Certify, That Frederick G. Read Esqr. whose named is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State. And, further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the twenty first day of October 1847
Munson I. Lockwood Clerk
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State of New York
County of  Westchester Ss} Nehemiah Searles of the Town of North Castle in said County Aged Fifty years the thirtieth day of December next as appears from his fathers family record
Who being first duly sworn according to law deposeth that he was born in the Town of Poundridge adjoining the above mentioned Town but has resided in the Town of North Castle for the nine years last past had known Silas Sunderland & deceased by reputation from his earliest recollection until his death and for the last year past has been employed by William Valentine of Albany in said State Pension Agent to collect Testimony for the purpose of obtaining a pension for the heir of said Sutherland decd has during the time he has been engaged in said service made dilligent enquiry and search and does believe so far as his enquiry has extended that all the testimony in the case has been obtained Deponent further saith that during the investigation made by him that he has not found one individual that knew said Sutherland but unhesitatingly declared from the known [?cilty?] of the man and from the current report of the aged around him their firm belief that he was a soldier of the revolution and served his country as a Sergeant in the militia under Capt Hobby and Lyon and Deponent has not for his own part the least doubt of such service and that had application been made five or six years past that then might have been obtained several    depositions from individuals who had always understood that Sutherland was a firm Whig and both he and his family together with his father and family were driven from their homes on account of their principle  Deponent also saith that he does not now believe that there is a person living
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seven in the same company and cannot learn of one who served in the same regiment  Deponent has understood from the friends of Silas Sutherland deceased that he did not know of the law of 1832 granting Pensions to Militiamen as some of them did not know of said law themselves otherwise he would have made application during his life but from his extreme age after the passage of said Law and loss of sight like most people of his age had nearly given up reading all subjects except [sncle?] as concerned his [chernal?] well being
   Nehemiah Searles
Subscribed and Sworn to before
me this twenty fifth day of August 1848
Drake Waterbury  Justice of the peace

I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Nehemiah Searles subscriber to the above deposition and know him to be a man of intelligence and veracity a communicant of the Protestant Episcopal Church and  Senior Warden of St Stephens Church in the Town of North Castle of which I am Rector, a man in whom I can place implicit confidence & I have not the least hesitation in recommending him to others as one whose word or oath is intittled [entitled] to full credit & confidence
 Robert Wm Harris
 Rector of St Stephens Church
 North Castle
 Westchester Co NY
  April 25th 1848
I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with the Rev Robert Wm Harris subscriber to the above certificate and know him to be Rector of St Stephens Church in the town of North Castle and also with Jeremiah Searles subscriber to the above deposition and fully concur with the Rev Mr Harris as to his intelligence character and standing in society
 Drake Waterbury Justice of the peace
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State of New York, County of Westchester, ss.
I, Munson I. Lockwood, Clerk of the County aforesaid and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, Do Hereby Certify, That Drake Waterbury Esquire. whose name is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State. And, further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the twenty seventh day of April 1848
Munson I. Lockwood Clerk
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Washington City May 4th 1848
Sir
  Enclosed is additional evidence in the case of Silas Sutherland decd
  I am Yours very respectfully
  Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards, Esq
Commr of Pensions
Washington

Mr Edwards, having promised to examine this claim to day in person. I herewith present the enclosed proof  In connection with this I want particularly call his attention to my letter to him dated the 15th ult.
  I am Yours &c
  Wm Valentine
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Silas Southerland

The within belongs to the papers of Col Thomas Regt

[on side] [illegible]
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North Castle Ss 24th of [?] 17[?]
pleas to pay to David Hobby All
My Wages that is Due to me for my
Service in Coll Thomas Regt in 1777
and his Rect shall be your Discharge
from me for the Same  Silas Sutherland
 Ebenr Fitch

To Coll Thomas
on pay Master
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White Plains N.Y. Jany 25 1849
Sir
 I wrote some time since to Mr Nelson our representative in congress in relation to the  pension of Silas Sutherland and in reply he handed (or sent) to me your communication to him dated 18th inst, in which you among other things state "The pension certificate was "issued on the 16th Oct 1847 payable to Silas Sutherland his only ^ surviving child, and handed to Wm Valentine of Albany NY &c
  May I trouble you to inform me the amount of that certificate, and if the Grand children of old Silas Sutherland are not entitled to a portion of that certificate -
  Old Silas Sutherland had four children, three of then died before he did, but left children who claim the share that their parent would have been entitled to had he or she been s till living.
  A reply at your earliest convenience will much oblige
  Yours very respectfully
 J L. Mitchell
J.L. Edwards Esqr
 Commr of Pensions
Washington
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House of Reps
13th Jany 1849
Sir,
  I have just recd a letter from a constituent of mine ^ stating that Silas Sutherland a Revolutionary Soldier, died some three or four years ago in North Carth W    N.Y. - That at some time after the old mans death (& probably within the last two or three years) his son Silas Sutherland      recd from the Government a mm of money due the decd soldier on acct of P   on or otherwise and requesting me to obtain information on the subject &c -
  Now I know no other way of obtain the information than by addressing you on the subject & beg you to communicate to me
 Whether any [word crossed out] payment has been made for or on account of claims for services, Pension or otherwise   to the said Silas Sutherland, and if so, when & to whom was such payment made? How much was paid & for whom or to whom benefit was such payment made?
  An early answer to this enquiry will oblige
  Your obt Servt
  W. Nelson
J.L. Edwards
Commr of Pensions
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Hon J.J. Slingerland  M C
 Washington
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Albany N.Y. July 31st 1848
My Dear Sir
  enclosed is a small memorandum Book containing the hand writing and signature of Silas Sutherland, decd, that it may be compared with his signature upon the order, for military pay, forwarded to you on the 21st Inst.
  Please request Mr Edwards to compare the signatures before the papers are returned.
  If the claim is admitted you may file the enclosed in the pension office, if not admitted upon the present exhibits, please return this paper with the other that I may from the hand writing before an appeal is made to the Secretary of War.  The paper from the Comptrollers Office is only borrowed & must be returned & this paper they must not have unless they will first agree to allow the claim,   I also enclose herewith a letter recd (with the memorandum Book) from N  Sarles Esq all of which please exhibit to Mr. Edwards, but by no means have them other than merely for examination.
  I shall be obliged to visit Washington without delay unless I have some re ports immediately or some information as to what I may rely upon.
  I remain Yours truly &c
  Wm Valentine
You are at liberty, if agreeable to you to hand this letter to Mr Edwards
Hon J.J. Slingerland M.C.
Washington
[on side]
P.S. Please direct the attention of Mr Edwards to the name of Jeremiah Green in the Memorandum Book, he being a interest in this case of Sutherland his deposition is on file A shows that Green & Sutherland were in the same vicinity perhaps adjoining each other
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J.L. Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City

[on side]
Aug 21 48
Signatures of
Mr Sutherland
  Mr. Valentine
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Albany N.Y. August 19th 1848
Sir
  An order for military pay executed by Silas Sutherland - in 1784 containing his signature also a small memorandum Book with his signature upon it was forwarded to the Department by the Hon J.J. Slingerland in the case of said Sutherland, Will the Department inform me if those two signatures are the same hand writing of the signature to the Deposition made by Sutherland in the case of Charity Banks, or in other words are the four signatures of Sutherland the same hand writing
  I am Yours very respectfully
  Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards Esq
Comr of Pensions
Washington
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Aug 2/48
Silas Southerland [2nd?]

J.L. Edwards Esq
Commr of Pensions
Washington

Hon J J Slingerland
 H R [House of Reps]
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Albany N.Y. July 21st 1848
Sir
  In the case of Silas Sutherland decd whose son is an applicant for the pension which was due his father under the Act of June 7th 1832, permit me to refer the Department to the affidavits made by him and on file in the case of Charity Banks widow of Samuel Banks, decd, under the Act of July 4th 1836.
  The following is an extract from a letter just received from Wm Banks, a son of Charity Banks, from which I have derived the foregoing information viz "My mothers mind and memory have become so much impaired that I do not think you can obtain any thing from her that will be serviceable to you. She remembers Deacon Silas Sutherland well, but her statements are so disconnected and imperfect that I doubt whether they can be made to amount to any thing:  I was very intimate in Deacon Silas Sutherlands family up to 1804 and saw the old gentleman several times after that previous to his death; He was in the same company with my father during the War, and I conversed with him and obtained two affidavits of him previous to his death relative to my fathers services" _
  Signed William Banks per James M Banks and dated July 17th 1848 at Bainbridge N.Y.
 I was informed by Mr Edwards in person when

To Mr Valentine
Albany
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I was at Washington in May last that he would make a report in the case of Sutherland, before said report is made I would refer the Department to the affidavits made by Sutherland in the case of Mrs Banks, as additional evidence of his identity; I know not what is then set forth, but trust there is enough in addition to the evidence filed by me to satisfy the Department on that important point. And as the case has been long pending, would earnestly solicit the personal attention of Mr Edwards to this case at his earliest possible convenience -
  I am Yours very respectfully
  Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards Esq
Comr of Pensions
Washington
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New York

Enclosing
Order of Silas Sutherland
on [Col?] Thomas

Hon J.J. Slingerland M.C.
Washington

Hon J J Slingerland
 H Reps
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Comptroller's office
Albany  July 21. 1848

Friend S.
 The Comptroller, Wm Fillmore has allowed Mr Valentine to send the enclosed original paper, belonging to this office, to you, provided it be kept in your care, and returned to me as soon after the Commissioner of pensions have time to examine the same, as may be.
 You will hear from me soon
 In haste    Yours
  John Hancock  Clk
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Letter
To J.L. Edwards Esq
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Albany N.Y. Feb, 24th 1848
Sir
  Enclosed is additional evidence in the case of Silas Southerland Decd in connection with which I want particularly refer the Department to my letter of the 24th November last forwarded by the Hon M Slingerland soliciting a reinvestigation of the claim, upon which letter I have received no report.
  I am Yours very respectfully
  Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards Esq
Comr of Pensions
Washington
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Letter
 Sept 5th/48
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Albany N.Y. Sept 5th 1848
Sir
  Enclosed is an explanatory Declaration and additional evidence in the case of Silas Sutherland, Deceased, under the Act of June 7th 1832.
  I have in my possession a copy of the two depositions made by him in the case of Charity Banks under the Act of 1836 in which he then asserts that he served in the Militia of Westchester County &c
  If the signature to the order for military pay recently filed by the Hon J.J. Slingerland is the same hand writing as those to the depositions referred to in the case of Mrs Banks, it would appear to be conclusive evidence of the identity of this Sutherland, particularly when there is on file such a mass of corroborating testimony
  I am Yours very respectfully
  Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington

P.S. I have received no answer to my letter of the 19th ult. in this case
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Letter
J.L. Edwards Esq
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Albany N.Y. Oct 16th 1847

Sir
  Enclosed is the Declaration and proofs in the case of Silas Sutherland deceased, for the pension which  was due him under the Act of June 7th 1832.
  I am Yours very respectfully
  Wm Valentine

J.L. Edwards Esqr
Comr of Pensions
Washington
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23003
INVALID
Revolution
File No. 23,003
Silas Southerland
Serg  Rev War
Act: June 7th 32
Index: - Vol. 2, Page [?]8[7?]
 [Arrangement of 1870]
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State of New York, County of Westchester, ss.
I, Munson I. Lockwood, Clerk of the County aforesaid and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said County, Do Hereby Certify, That John Ferris Esqr. whose name is subscribed to the Certificate of the proof or acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County, residing in the said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised to take the same, according to the laws of the said State. And, further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate is genuine.

In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County Courts, the twenty seventh day of April 1848
Munson I. Lockwood Clerk
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State of New York
County of Westchester Ss}  Silas Sutherland of North Castle in said county  Aged seventy ^ one years the thirtieth day of January last it appears from the records of his fathers family Who being first duly sworn according to law Deposeth that he has often heard his father say that he concerned himself justly entitled  to a pension for his services but did not know that he could obtain proof from those who served in the same company or regiment with him  Deponent further saith that his father for many years before his death often said that he did not know of any of his fellow soldiers living who served in the company or regiment with him
Deponent saith that since his fathers death he has made diligent search and enquiry to obtain testimony in the case of his father Silas Sutherland deceased and has not been able to find or hear from a single individual living who served with him Deponent also saith that he has employed competent persons to make similar enquiry yet without success and Deponent being informed that the Pension department require no more than the best attainable evidence he is of the opinion that no better can be found than that already furnished
 Silas Sutherland
Subscribed & Sworn to before me this twentieth day of April Eighteen Hundred forty eight
 John Ferris Justice of the peace
  I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Silas Sunderland above named and have been so acquainted for the last fifteen years and believe him to be a man of sound mind and memory a man of intelligence and whose oath can be relied on with full faith and credit
  John Ferris Justice of the Peace