Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8703, for Luke Remsen, New York
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New York Remsen or Remsen Luke
R8703
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Amended Declaration of Luke Remsen for Pension under Act of 1832
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I Luke Remsen do acknowledge the United States of America to be Free Independent and sovereign States and declare that the people therefore owe no allegiance or obedience to George the third King of Great Britain and I Renounce Refuse and abjure any allegiance or obedience to him and I do swear that I will to the utmost of my Power support maintain and defend the said United States against the said King George the third his Heirs and Succ**** and his and their Abettors Assistants and Adherents and will serve the said United States in the office of a Clerk to the Deputy Barrack Master at Fish Hill - which I now hold with fidelity according to the best of my skill and Understanding
Sworn before me this }
5th Day of December 17?0 }   Luke Ramsen
Tho? Storm Peace



I Luke Ramsen do Swear that I will faithfully truly and Impartially Execute the office of Clerk to the Deputy Barrack aster at Fish Hill, to which I am appointed and render a true Account when thereunto required of all puclibe monies by me received or expended and of all Stores or other Effects to me Instrust which belong to the United States and will in all Respects
discharge the Trust [illegible] in me with justice and integrity to the best of my skill and understanding__
Luke Ramsen__
Sworn before me this 5th day of
 December 17?0
Tho^s Storm J Peace
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Declaration in order to obtain the benefit
of the act of Congress, passed June 7, 1832.
State of New York
County of Queens SS. On this 30th day of October 1832, personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of common pleas of the County of Queens and State of New York, being a
Court of Record so constituted by an act of the
Legislature of the said State, Luke Remsen
a resident in the Town of New Town in the said
County, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7. 1832 - That he was born in the said Town in the year 1749
and is now in the 85th year of his age. that in the year 1776 at the said Town of Newtown he
entered the service of the States, as a
drafted soldier, under the following named
officers and served as herein stated. The company in which he served was commanded by Capt Benjamin Coe, in a regiment under the
command of Col. Smith, (whose Christian [inserted] name [end insert] this deponent does not recollect) and were stationed
on the South side of Long Island to prevent the
British from landing and plunding the inhabitants -  from thence they marched to a place called Bedford in the County of Kings, where they were employed in opposing the progress of the British army, who
had landed under Genl Home; - here he was exposed to the fire of the enemy, until orders were given by General Washington for the americans to
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leave Long Island - the army was then crossed
over to the city of New York, and march up
to Hurlgate [Hell gate?] (then called Horn's Hooke) The British Troops then took possession of Long Island and committed great depredations upon the farm
of this deponent at New Town. In March
1777 (as he thinks) this deponent volunteered into a company of Mechanics or wheels[miths?] under
Capt. Kennicott at Peekskill in Westchester county, and was employed in building gun carriages and other things necessary for the army, and for Col. Cortlands Regiment in particular when the British ships came up the river [and] burnt the Village of Peekskill, the Regiment retreated over the mountain to a place callled Canopus Hallow, where and at Fishkill this deponent continued work as a mechanic for the army more than two years. In 1779 the British came up the River again & the
mechanies were again ordered back with their
tools into the country, where they remaind above 23 days, and built a large building for
keeping the continental stores in-- They thence marched to a place called nelsons point
opposite west point and lay in tents a few
days, from whence they returned to Fishkill &
this deponent served under John Parsell who
was master or captain of the Wheelwright company - this deponent assisted in building four horse wagons for the army, when he was
wounded in the knee by an [???], and being in
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-able to labor, retired from the service above
three months - In 1780 on the 5th day of December this deponent was appointed Clerk
to Tobias Van Zandt who was deputy barrack
master, as will appear by the document
hereto annexed, and which is the only writing
now in this deponents possession in relation to
his services, have long since destroyed or lost
his several discharges and certificates. This
deposed continued to discharge the office of
Clerk during the winter - In the third of 1781
this deponent was ordered to a place called
gallows Hill in Dutchess County and was appointed assistant to Joseph King Store keeper for the eastern department of the American army - about this time (Oct. 1781) news was received of the surrender of Lord Cornwallis & his army to Genl Washington at Yorktown in Virginia, in consequence of which Genl Heath made us a [special?] entertainment -during this year, deponent was employed part of the time, in issuing tools and implements to the soldiers, and keeping an account of them-- after which in 1782 deponent was ordered by Col. Hughs
(Deputy Quarter master) to Fishkill to assist in
making up the accounts of Barrack master Van
Land [Zande?], and after this was employed as issuer of rations for the soldiers at five different places - Fishkill village - Fishkill Landing  -Wappingers Creek - New Burgh and New Windsor, under Comfort [Colonel?] Lands who was the contractor
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with Congress to furnish provision for this
department of the American army - this
deponent continued to discharge this last
service till peace was declared. This deponent was in active service in different
situations for more than five years, and
recollects of seeing several of the superior
officers, and particularly of seeing General
Washington and Genl Knox at West point
about the close of the war.

But this deponent has lived much
secluded from the world for a great many
years past; and does not know whether
any of his fellow soldiers now survive by
whom he can prove his services more fully
than by the affidavit of Abraham Furman
and Daniel Ropelyed [Ropelyea?], hereto annexed nor has he now in his possession or power any documentary evidence of his revolutionary
services, other than that above refered to
& hereto annexed-
This deponent hereby relinquishes any
claim whatever to a pension or annuity
except the present, and declares that his
name is not on the pension roll of the
agency of any State.

Sworn and subscribed like hersen
the day and year aforeaid
Samuel Sherman Clerk
of Queen Com. pleas

Luke Remson [signature]
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We John Goldsmith a Clergyman residing
in the Town of Newtown and County of
Queens, and Daniel Ropely [Ropelyea?] residing in the same, hereby certify that we are well-acquainted with Luke Remsen who has
subscribed and sworn to the above declaration. [struck out: that] we believe him to 84 years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion-
Sworn and subscribed the
day and year aforesaid
John Goldsmith [ signature]
Daniel P Rapalys [Rasaly? Rapags?]
Samuel Sherman Clerk

And the said Court as hereby declared
their opinion, after the investigation of the
matter, and after putting the interrogators prescribed by the war department, that the
above named applicant was a revolutionary
Soldier, and served as he states. And the court
further certifies, that it appears to them that John Goldsmith who has signed the preceding certificate, is a clergyman resident in the said
Town of NewTown; and that Daniel [Rapelyea?]
who has also signed the same is a resident of the same place, and is a credible person
you, and that their statement is entitled
to credit-
I Samuel Sherman clerk of the
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court of common pleas of the County of
Queens in the State of New York do hereby
certify that the foregoing contains the original 
proceedings of the said Court in the matter
of the application of Luke Remsen for a
pension
In Testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand and seal
of Office this 30th day of October
1832 -
Samuel Sherman
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State of N York
Queens County ss We Abraham Furman
and Daniel Ropetyea of New Town in
the County of Queens, do certify that we
were well acquainted with Luke Remsen
during the Revolution war and ever
since - that he was several years in the
service in different situations, and a
very active and faithful friend of the
independence of his country- That he
suffered much by injury to his property while
absent from Long Island, and while it
was in the possession of the British - That
we have heard read the declaration
hereto annexed, and have no doubt the same
is true. That we are also intimately acquainted with his character;
which has always been highly respectable
and his veracity has never to our
knowlege been questioned
Submited and sworn to
the 20th October 1832.
before me
Abraham Furman
Daniel D Rapalje
Samuel Sherman Clerk
of the Court of Common Pleas
for Queens County
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In the matter
of the application
Luke Ramsen
for a 
Pension [underlined]
under the act 7 June 1832
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Amended 

State of New York}
County of Queens}

Personally appeared before Benjamin W. Strong one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for the County of Queens, Luke Ramsen, who being duly sworn, deposeth and saith that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his Service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the period mentioned below, and in the following grades___

For one month on Long Island as a drafted soldier under Capt Benjamin Coe
For four years and none month as a volunteer in the company of Mechanics and Wheelwright under Capt Kennicott Capt Steel, Husted and John Parcell and others.
For Ten Months as clerk to Tobias Van Zandt deputy Barrack master or as assistant Store Keeper to Joseph King__
For two weeks was employed by Colonel Hughes and issued rations for 5 different stations.
For Six Months enlisted and served as foreman of the company of Wheelwrights under John Parcell

These services were rendered at Pecks Kill, Continental Village Wallkill, Nelsons Point, Fishhill, &c and for such service I claim a pension

Luke Remsen

Sworn to and Subscribed }
this 19th day of February 1833}
before me 
Benj^n W. Strong Judge of Queens Co. Common Pleas
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State of New York 
County of Queens

I Benjamin W. Strong one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for the county of Queens do hereby certify that it satisfactorily appears to me the the within deponant Luke Remsen is unable from old age and bodily infirmities to attend the Court of Common Pleas, for the purpose of amending his declaration, originally made in open court.
Benj^n W. Strong
February 19th 1833.

State of New York}
Queens County Clerk's Office}  ss.

I Samuel Sherman Clerk of the county of Queens and clerk of the court of Common pleas in and for the said County Do herby Certify that Benjamin W. Strong Esquire before whom the foregoing Deposition was taken and who has subscribed the above Certificate was at the time of taking and subscribing the same a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the county aforesaid and that the respective signatures of the said Judge subscribed thereto are geniune__

In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of office this twenty first day of February in the year one thousand Eight hundred and thirty three___
Samuel Sherman, Clerk
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State of New York
County of Queens

I, Samuel Sherman, Clerk of the County of Queens County do hereby certify that I have for several years past been personally acquainted with Abraham Furman and Daniel D. Rapalye of Newtown in said County whose names are subscribed to an affidavit accompanying the Declaration in the Court of Common Pleas in this county made by Luke Remsen and hereto annexed and do believe them to be persons of high respectability and entitled to full confidence as to integrity and veracity.

Jamaica, Queens County, February 21st, 1833

Samuel Sherman
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Luke Remesen
N ? 1832
Suspended


A. H. Markland
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State of New York
County of Queens 
Abigail Phraner
of the Village of Jamaica in said County
of Queens being duly sworn by and
before Morris Fosdick County Judge
of said County depose and says she
is forty two years of age, was born
in the town of Newtown Queens County
aforesaid and resided there until the
year 1840 when he removed to the
town of Jamaica in said County,
that she knew and was well
acquainted with Luke Remsen
now decd knew him from her earliest
recollection up to the time of his
death say over nineteen years, she
lived a near neighbor to him in said
town of Newtown, knows that said
Luke Remsen died in said town of
Newtown on the twentieth day of
April One thousand eight hundred
and thirty nine-- that she attended
his funeral - he was a very old
man at the time of his death - was
reputed to be ninety years of age
but she had no means of knowing
his exact age - says she is also well
acquainted with the family of said
Luke Remsen decd knows that he left
five children living at his death
namely Cornelius Remsen, Mary Remsen
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Elizabeth Remsen, Henry Remsen
and Margaret Pine, and that they
were the only children he had
living at the time of his death,
That said Cornelius, Mary, Elizabeth
and Henry are still living, but
Margaret Pine is now deceased
she died about a year after her
said father Luke Remsen - this
deponent further says she knew
Peter Remsen a son of said Luke Remsen
that said Peter Remson died about one
year before said Luke Remsen and
left six children still living namely
Eliza Kolyer, Drucilla Rustin, Joseph
Remsen, Amy Hegeman, Abigail
Adams and Mary Ann Snedeker, said
Peter Remsen also had another child
Lydia Anderson who died before said
Peter Remsen her father and left three
children who are still living namely
James Anderson, Peter Anderson
and Cornelius Anderson - this
deponent says she does not know the
children of said Abigail Pine decd
Sworn to before me the this 30th day of March 1857 and I further certify that I known said Abigail Phraner & that she is a reputable witness
& her statement entitled faith & credit-
Morris Fosdick County Judge
Queens County
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In the matter of proving
the last Will and Testament
of Luke Remsen Deceased
To the Surrogate of the County of Queens
The petition of Henry Remsen of said
County Respectfully sheweth.
That the said Luke Remsen died on or
about the twentieth day of April instant;
that at the time of his decease he was an
inhabitant of the town of Newtown in the
said County, that previous to his decease
he duly made and published a last Will
and Testament whereof he did therein
and thereby appoint your petitioner, one of the
Executors, that the said Luke Remsen
at the time of his decease was possessed
of goods and chattels within the said
County, by means whereof as your petitioner
has been informed and believes, the
Surrogate of the said county has sole and
exclusive power to take the proof of the
said Last Will and Testament, that the
said deceased has left no widow, and that
Mary Remsen, Elizabeth Remsen, Eliza
Kolyer, Drucilla Henson Joseph Remsen
Amy Remsen, Abigail Remsen, Sarah
Jane Stemsen, Peter Remsen, James
orderson, Peter Anderson, Cornelius Anderson
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petitioner of the town of Newtown aforesaid
Cornelius Remsen, of Fishkill Dutchess
County, Margaret Pine of Walton Delaware
County, Mary Ann Snedeker of Flushing in
Queens County, Eliza Remsen and Dorcas
Remsen whose place of residence after a
diligent search cannot be ascertained, (and
that the said Sarah Jane and Peter are
respectively minors under the age of twenty
one years and have no general guardian)
are all the next of kin and heirs at law of
the said deceased, as your petitioner has
been informed and believes, and your
petitioner being desirous that the said Will
should be admitted to proof prays that
citation issue out of and under the seal
of this Court, requiring said heirs at law
and next of his personally to be and
appear, when and where this Court may
direct to attend the probate of the said
Last Will and Testament, And your
petitioner will ever pray 
Henry Remsen
County of Queens S.S.
Henry Remsen the above named petitioner
being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that the
matters set forth in the foregoing petition
are true to the best of his knowledge, information and belief,
Seven before me, the
Henry Remsen
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6th day of May A.D. 1839
Henry J. Hagner
Surrogate
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Will
In the name of God, Amen. I Luke Remsen
of Newtown in Queens County and State of
New York Farmer do make this my last
Will and Testament, as follows, that is to say;
First. My just debts and funeral expenses I
request to be paid within a reasonable time
after my decease Second. My household
furniture of every description I give and
bequeath unto my wife, and my daughters
Mary and Elizabeth and the survivor of them
at the time of my decease equally share and
share alike. Third, The sum of Five hundred
dollars (part of my estate, I direct to be
kept at interest from the time of my decease
for the use of my wife; and if her
wants should require the said principal or
part thereof, then I authorize and direct my
executors hereinafter named to apply the
said principal or any part thereof, as they may
think necessary, to supply those wants, and
upon her decease I give and bequeath the said
principal sum of Five hundred dollars, or the
remainder thereof unexpended, unto my said
daughters Mary and Elizabeth equally share
and share alike. But it is my intention
that these gifts in favor of my wife, shall be
in her and in bar of her dower in my
estate. Fourth. Having given to my children
by my former marriage their respective portions
in their mothers estate. I now give unto my
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daughter Margaret Pine the only survivor
of those children, the sum of seventy five
dollars if she should survive me, as a
remembrance. Fifth, I give and bequeath
unto Catharine the widow of my son Peter
deceased, the sum of Fifty dollars in token
of my affection. Sixth, All the rest residue
and remainder of my estate both real and
personal of every description. I give devise
and bequeath unto my children, Cornelius,
Mary, Henry and Elizabeth and to the
lawful issue of my said son Peter deceased
equally share and share alike, forever, such
issue to take collectively one share, distributable
among them according to the rule adopted by
the Statute of descents in this State, And in
order to render the division of my residuary
estate more simple and easy, I authorize
and empower, and direct my executors
hereinafter named, or such of them as
may qualify the survivors and survivor of
them to sell the whole of my real estate or
any part thereof in fee simple at publick
or private sale as they may think best, upon
such sale or sales to execute and deliver good
and said deed of conveyance for the same.
unto the purchaser or purchasers thereof; and
to divide the net proceeds of such sales, among
my children Cornelius, Henry, Mary and
Elizabeth and the issue of my said son
Peter deceased equally, that is to say,
share and share alike forever, but such
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issue shall collectively receive only one share
in manner aforesaid, Lastly, I nominate
constitute and appoint my said sons
Cornelius Remsen, and Henry Remsen and
my friend Abraham Furman of Newtown
the executors of this my last will and
testament, and I hereby revoke all former
wills by me made. In witness whereof I
have hereunto set my hand and seal
this eighth day of October in the year of
our Lord one thousand eight hundred
and thirty eight,
This instrument subscribed sealed
& executed in the presence of each Luke Remsen
of us by the Testator, who at the
time of such subscription declared
instrument so subscribed to be
his last Will and Testament, and 
requested us to attest and us to attest the same by signing our names as witnesses 
thereunto in his presence & in the 
presence of each other,
Daniel D. Rapelye, Stephen J. Rapelye, 
Daniel L. Rapelye
State of New York
County of Queens
Surrogates office
I Morris Fosdick Surrogate
of the said County of Queens, do hereby
certify that I have compared the foregoing
copy of the last Will and testament of
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Luke Remsen late of the town of Newton in the said county deceased, with the original will as the same was admitted to probate in the Surrogate's Court of said County of Queens, on the twenty fourth of June, one thousand eight hundred and thirty nine and recorded in Liber No 2 of Record of Wills of real estate page 118 and that said copy is a correct transcript of said original and of the whole thereof.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal at Jamaica in Queens County this thirtieth day of March A.D. one thousand eight hundred and fifty seven
Morris Fosdick 
Court Judge 
and Surrogate
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The people of the State of New York,
TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, OR MAY CONCERN, GREETING:
Know ye, That before Henry J. Hagner,
SURROGATE of the COUNTY of Queens, 
on the twenty fourth day of June
one thousand eight hundred and thirty nine
at JAMAICA, in the said County, the last Will
and Testament of Luke Remsen
deceased, ( a copy hereunto annexed, ) was proved, and is now approved and allowed by us; and the said having, whilst living, and at the time of his death, his residence in the town of the
in said county of QUEENS, aforesaid by reason whereof the proving and registering of the said Will, and the granting Administration of all and singular the goods, chattels, and credits of the said deceased; and also the auditing, allowing and final discharging the account thereof, is vested in the said SURROGATE; the administration of all and singular the goods, chattels and credits of the said deceased, in any way concerning the said Will, is granted unto
Henry Remsen, Cornelius Remsen and Abraham Furman
Executors in the said Will named, they being first duly sworn faithfully and honestly to discharge the duties of such Executors hereby requiring you, the said Henry Remsen, Cornelius Remsen and Abraham Furman to make, or cause to be made, a true and perfect inventory of all and singular the goods, chattels and credits of the said deceased, which have or shall come to your hands, possession or knowledge; as also to make or cause to be made, duplicates of such inventory, and cause the same to be signed at the end thereof, by the appraisers, and the same so made and signed, that you make return thereof to the SURROGATE of the said COUNTY, within three months from the date hereof.
In Testimony whereof, we have caused the seal of  office of our said  Surrogate to
be hereunto affixed WITNESS, Henry J. Hagner
Surrogate of our said
County, at the place aforesaid, the twenty fourth day of June one  thousand eight hundred and fifty thirty nine
Henry J Hagner
Surrogate.
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State of New York
County of Queens
Surrogates Office
I Morris Fosdick
County Judge of said County of Queens
and acting Surrogate do hereby
certify that I have inspected the
Records of said Surrogates Office and
find there remaining of Record due
and satisfactory proof that Luke
Remson died on the 20th of April
1839 at the town of Newtown in said
County aged ninety years-- that he
was a resident of said town of
Newtown, that his only heirs at
law and next of kin are stated
and set forth in the affidavit of
Abigail Phraner hereto annexed,
and further that I have compared
the hereto annexed copies of
Petition presenting the Will of said
Luke Remson decd for probate, also copy
of the Will and of the Letters Testamentary
issued thereon, with the Original
papers filed and Recorded in the
Surrogates office of said County
and that said copies are correct
transcripts of such Original
and of the whole thereof
Witness my hand and
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the official seal of said Surrogate Court this 30th day of March 1857 
Morris Fosdick
Court Judge
& Surrogate
Luke Remsen 
N 71832
A. H. Markland
[illegible]
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Luke Remsen
died April 20, 1839
Cornelius 1, Mary 2, Elizabeth 3, & Henry Remsen 4 [children now alive] March 1857
W. C. C.
F. 14
Sheriff of time & grade
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Mr. Lent
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BRIEF in the case of Luke Remsen
of Queens cy in the State of New York,
(Act 7th June, 1832.)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?  a court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? [blank]
3. How old is he? 84
4. State his service, as directed in the form 
[headings of form] Period Duration of Service Rank Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served
[headings of form] Period Years Months Days As  a Gen.

In '76  ------ drafted [illegible] Capt Benj Coe - Col Smith
March '77 to 79 ---more than 2 *..... (mechanic or wheelright)  Capt Kenicott --- (John Parsell master or Captain of the wheelright company)

Dec 1780 Clerk to the Deputy Barrack Master
Spring 1781 asst to Storekeeper
[end of form]
He concluded by saying that he was in active service more than five years. 
5. In what battles was he engaged?
none mentioned
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service?
Newtown Queen Cy. N. York
mentioned.
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by
incidental evidence, or by the rolls?
a Document ----Living Witnesses
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
The declaration is on several papers, not property connected, and the affidavit of living witnesses has no Clerk & Seal
Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above
Wm C. Easton
Examining Clerk.  17 Jan 1833
* he worked as a mechanic for the army more than two years.
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Rev. War Section.
August 31, 1915.
Mr. J. W. Drake,
Hupp Motor Car Co.
Detroit, Michigan.
Sir:
In addition to the military history of Luke Ramsen or Remsen, R. File No. 8,703, Rev. War, you are furnished the following family data from the papers on file.
Children of Luke Ramsen or Remsen.
Peter Remsen, died about 1838, married -- Catharine-
Margaret Pine, died about 1840.
Cornelius Remsen,
Henry Remsen,
Mary Remsen,
Elizabeth Remsen,
Children of Peter Remsen,
Eliza Kolyer,
Drucella Rustin,
Joseph Remsen.
Any Hegeman,
Abigail Adams.
Mary Ann Snedeker,
Lydia Anderson,
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Children of Lydia Anderson.
James Anderson,
Peter Anderson,
Cornelius Anderson.
In October 1838, soldier refers to his wife, name not mentioned, and states that Margaret Pine is only survivor of his children by a former marriage. No other names given.
Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.
Ramsen or Remsen -2-
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1915 Aug 31: history to Mr. J. W. Drake 
Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873
8703.
P.O. Luke Remsen
Rejected
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Luke Remsen
New York -
Hon L. Condict 4 June 1833
B. F. Thompson April 4, 1834
A. H. Markland May 21, 1857
8703
June 7, 1832
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New York
Revo:
Luke Remsen
Rejected
let Hon L. Condict 4
June 1833
let B. F. Thompson Esq
April 4 '34.
Act 7 June '32
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Jas. L. Edwards Esq.
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House Rep. Febr. 26th '33
Dear Sir,
The enclosed amended declaration of Remsen, was intended to have been sent to Judge Lent of N. York, but in consequence of his death, I am requested to present them to you. If you have a  certificate, please enclose it to me at Morristown N.J. & I will see that he has it.
Your's (indipend)
L. Cordict.
Jas L. Edwards Esqr
Pension Office
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Luke Remsen
Mr. Lent
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Brief objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Luke Remsen which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason
assigned for his not doing so? ~
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes
V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he
served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout of pension he is entitled? No an affidavit is required setting forth the time claimed for in each grade -- founded upon actual service.
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to
their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Yes
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? ~
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? ~
XIV. If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? Yes
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under by his seal of office? Yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? Yes
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? Yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
Yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
Querre V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For - year -- months and - days, I served as a -. For - months and days, I served as a -; and for such service I claim a pension."
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. 
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he
must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which be belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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Pension Office,
May 21, 1857 - 
Sir,
of no obstacle existed to the allowance & pension certificate to the children of Revolutionary soldiers, you have adduced no additional evidence touching the service of Luke Remsen
of N. York, and ansequently, no satisfactory
conclusion could be reached.
A. H. Markland
Present
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Hupp Motor Bar Company
Manufacturers of the Hupmobile
Cable Address
- Hupp Detriot -
Lieber Western Union and A. B. C. 5th Edition Codes
Address All Communications to the Company at Detriot
Office of the President
Detroit, Michigan, U.S.A. August 23 - 1915
Pension U.S. Office
Aug 26, 1915
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C. 
Dear Sir: - 
I am endeavoring to secure information concerning the possible service during the Revolutionary War of Luke Remsen. He lived on Long Island and is buried at Newtown, Long Island. He is a member of the well known  Remsen family of that district.
Will you kindly advise me if your department records show any pension application, or pension granted for military service?
Very truly yours,
J. W. Drake
JWD-RW
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Revolutionary War Records Section.
3-525
Department of the Interior,
Bureau of Pensions.
Washington, D.C., 19
In reply to your request of, received
for a statement of the military history of Luke Ramsen or Remsen a soldier of the Revolutionary War, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. R. 8703.
Dates of Enlistment or Appointment. 1776
Length of Service. 1 mo
Rank. Pvt
Officers Under Whom Service Was Rendered.
Captain. Benjamin Coe
Colonel. [illegible]
State. N.Y.
Was afterwards employed in the different capacities of mechanic, wheelright, clerk and asst. store-keeper for about five years at Peekskill, Continental Village, Wallkill, Nelsons Point, Fishkill to. 
Battles engaged in, was in the retreat from Long Island.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Newtown, Queens Co. N.Y.
Date of application for pension, Oct. 30, 1832
Residence at date of application, Newtown, N.Y.
Age at date of application, born in Newtown, N.Y.
in 1749
Remarks: d. in Newtown, N.Y. Apr 20, 1839 leaving no widow, his claim was never allowed, no proof of six months' service in a military capacity as required by the pension law which he applied
Respectfully,
Commissioner.