Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 3362, John Elliot, New York
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New York    Elliot John   R. 3 3 [illegible]
                            Nelly   [illegible]
                                        Issued Aug. 14, 1792
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Declaration by
John Elliot
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Declaration by Administrator to obtain benefit of act of Congress granting pension to certain [illegible]
State of New York
[illegible] County Ss:
Othniel S. Williams Surrogate
of said County, do hereby certify, that at a Surrogates Court held in aforesaid  County at the office of said Surrogate in the town of Kirkland in said County, came into Court John Elliot administrator of Nelly Elliott late widow of John Elliott who was a Surgeons mate in the Revolutionary war, both deceased, and the said John Elliot administrator as aforesaid, after being duly sworn, doth on his oath make the following declaration for the purpose of obtaining the benefit of act of Congress of July 1838, & of subsequent acts in favor of widows, that he is the only son now living of above named John & Nelly, that they were married as he has often heard & believes the year after the close of Revolutionary War & lived at Pawling now Dover state aforesaid from 1784, said John, till a short period before his death & said Nelly to the day of her death, that said John died as he has heard & believes in 1814, & said Nelly on the 26th day of October one thousand eight hundred fifty at Dover] aforesaid, that at the time of her death she left four children, himself & three sisters, surviving.  That his Father the said John served in the 1st Regiment New York State troops in
the continental army, as surgeons mate, as he has heard him & his neighbors often say & as he verily believes & that he is the same John Elliott Surgeons mate to whom Certificate for 1300 acres of land was issued by Secretary of State of New York, for his military revolutionary service, which lands were as follows
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600 acres, Lot No 1 in Lysander 350 acres each in Tully & Solon, State of New York. That he has made diligent inquiry, & cannot find any family named of said John or Nelly, or hear of any, or
any public or private record of same, that his brother Henry was the oldest child of said John & Nelly, that he is dead, but would have been now, had he lived, sixty seven or sixty eight years old: That his sisters now living are Amy Wood 53 years old, Hannah Burham & Harriet Dayton, both younger than Amy.  He had a sister Sally & brother Joseph, whose ages would have been 65 & 63 had they lived til this year.  They are dead.
That his father & mother the said John & Nelly, lived in said town of Dover from the close of the Revolutionary war, til the war of 1812, as man & wife, & were at all times recognized as such.  Said John a Jun (Junior)  was 57 years old last March, as he believes also that he has lately seen the land above named, that it is known in that vicinity, that it was drawn by said John Elliot Surgeons mate & that he has authorized suits at law to eject pursuant occupant.  He further testifies that he always heard & understood that his father & mother were married in the time of Pawlings but has forgotten the name of Magistrate who performed the ceremony. He also deposes that he is administrator of estate of his late mother the said Nelly Elliot, & that she
remained the widow of said John to the day of her death. He also says that he has for many years been a resident in Canada & within a few years removed to Oneida County. He believes that his mother never applied for a Pension: not knowing that she was entitled.
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In presence of O. Williams
A. Merrill
The above foregoing declaration was made in open court before in the said
Surrogate at my office in Richland in said County by John Elliot administrator, in the 29th day of
December A.D. 1857, all which is satisfactory.-
Witness my hand & seal of office,
at Kirtland on the day year aforesaid
(The said John Elliott not being
able to write made his mark)

Othiniel S Williams
Surrogate
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State of New York
County of Duchess
 Personally appeared before the Subscriber a justice of the peace in and for said County Amy Wood of Dover in the County and State aforesaid who being first duly sworn according to law deposeth and saith
that she was fifty three years of age this 13th day of June 1851 according to a record of her age now in my possession and that she is a child of Nelly Elliot late of said town of Dover who was the widow of John Elliot deponents father who as deponent has understood and believes was engaged in the Revolutionary war as a Surgeons mate that on account of her said father John Elliot having
left home for Canada when she was young & she can state relative to his service only what she has heard from her mother and others. That is that
he the said John Elliot had done services in the Revolutionary war as surgeons mate and for such services he was entitled to land that deponents parents said John Elliot and Nelly Elliot whose maiden name
was Nelly Burham had six children older than this deponent own brother and sisters of this deponent and all children of said John and Nelly Elliot their names commencing at the oldest were Henry Sally Joseph Catherine John and Polly.   that Henry Joseph and Polly are dead and she is informed that Sally is. What she has frequently heard from another statement that there was about two years difference in the ages of her brother and sisters excepting an instance in which there was three years or more that she does not
know of any record of the marriage of deponents parents or of the ages of her elder brothers and sisters but she is positive of her own age as she has a record of it and she knows her parents had (as aforestated)  [illegible] older than this deponent and that her oldest brother would be if living about eighty eight or eighty nine -
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years of age as he was fifteen or sixteen years older than deponent.  
That within the last ten or fifteen years her Mother Nelly Elliot has often spoken of her being entitled
to a pension for her said husband John Elliot serving in the
Revolutionary war as a Surgeons mate and often stated she knew she was justly entitled to a large sum if she had anyone to look after it but she was very poor and destitute
herself.  all of her sons had gone to Canada with their father.  The two eldest Henry and Joseph were dead and her daughters were all very poor, and without education entirely unacquainted with business consequently no application for her pension was ever made by her Mother.  that she has often heard her mother tell where when and by whom she was married to John Elliot but
cannot now state the particulars.  Her said father John Elliot as before stated went to Canada when deponent was very young returned in about 42 years time.  Stayed a short time and returned to Canada and she understood there died during the war of 1812 in 1814.  That deponents mother said Nelly Elliot was his widow until her death which occurred in said town of Dover on the 26th day of October 1850. That the following named children are her only surviving
children now Viz John Elliot of Oneida County New York. Amy Wood of Dutchess County New York Catharine Yonger of Massachusetts and Harriet
Dayton of Putnam County N.Y.  That deponent herself was married on the 28th day of June 1818 according
to her family record which she knows to be correct as courts herein stated
                             Amy   X     Wood
                                    her mark
taken and subscribed before me this third day of March 1852
Thomas Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
I certify that the above named Amy Wood is a credible woman and
never having learned to write makes her mark and further that I have examined the family record  & I have found the dates she gives as to age & marriage to be correct. [illegible]
Thomas Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
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John Elliot-R.3308
B. L. Wt. 1662300
R. 3302

August 6, 1934
Eva L. Moffett
100 Kenfick Street
Brighton, Massachusetts
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Elliot, Surgeon's Mate, who received bounty land warrant, No. 662, for 300 acres, also, record of Colonel Robert Elliott of the Rhode Island Line, Revolutionary War.
There is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service of the above noted Robert Elliot(t).  The record of John Elliot is given herein as found in the claim on file under R.3308.
The records show that Warrant No. 662 for 300 acres of bounty land was issued, August 14, 1792, on account of the service of John Elliot, as surgeon's mate, New York Line,  War of the Revolution.

 On December 29, 1851, John Elliot, 
Junior, applied for the pension that might have been due on account of 
the service of his father, John Elliot as surgeon's mate in the 1st New York Regiment, War of the Revolution. 

John Elliot, Junior, stated that his father was a native of Dutchess County, New York and lived at Dover, New York, when he entered the service; that his father married a year or two after the close of the Revolution, in Pawling, New York, Nelly Burnham that after their marriage, his parents lived in Dover, New York that between 1800 and 1802, his father, John Elliot, left home and went to Canada, where he remained for a while, returned to Dover, but remained at home only a short time and returned to Canada; that when the war between Great Britain and the United States was declared in 1812, his father volunteered, entered the United States army and died at Sacketts Harbor while in the service, in 1814.
John Elliot, Junior, stated that he also served in the War of 1812; that he volunteered at Morristown on the Saint Lawrence River, and was in the service in the winter of 1814 and 1815, when his father
[hand written in margin]. Mrs F had me "write this" in this way.  However she did not feel sure that the John Elliot who rec'd it b.l. & the John Elliot whose son applied for pension were one and the same person.
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died. There is no claim for pension on file based upon the services 
in the War of 1812 of either John Elliot Senior or John Elliot, Junior. 
John Elliot, Junior, stated that his mother, Nelly Elliot, died in Dover, New York, October 25, 1930 
The names of the following children 
of John and Nelly Elliot are shown:
Henry born about 1784, went to Canada in 1804 and died there in Elizabethtown, date not  shown.
Sally Joseph went to Canada in 1815 and died there in Elizabethtown, date not shown. married [illegible] - Gouger.
Catherine
John, Junior born in March, 1786, went to Canada in 1817, returned to New York in 1838 and settled in Deauville, Oneida County, that state.  In 1853, living in Rome, New York.
Polly
Amy born June 13m 1798, married June 28, 1810 ---Wood.  
Hannah aged about 48 in 1852, married -- [illegible] no relationship shown.
Harriet aged about 46 in 1852, married --Dayton.
Four children survived their mother, namely:  John, Junior, Catherine Gouger of Massachusetts, Harriet Dayton of Putnam County, New York and Amy Wood of Dutchess County, New York
The claim for pension was not allowed because John Elliot, Junior failed to furnish proof that his mother was he widow of the John Elliot who served as surgeon's mate and was granted the bounty land.
In 1852, one Thomas Wood was aged fifty-seven years and resided in Dover, New York; no relationship to Amy Wood was shown.
In 1852, [illegible]'s sister Lucy Durham, who was born October 14, 1779, was residing in Dover, New York
There are no further family data.
Your letter from the General Land Office is returned herewith.
Very truly yours
A. D. Miller
Assistant to Administrator.
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State of New York
County of Oneida:
On this 17th day of March AD 1852, before me a Notary Public in and for said county came John Ellis of Rome county aforesaid, who is a credible witness, and who after being duly sworn doth on his oath say, that he is son of John & Nelly Elliot, formerly of Devon, in State aforesaid, and that said his father, is the  is the identical man whom he has many
years since heard was a surgeons mate in the New York State troops in service of United States in the Revolutionary war,
that he has many times heard his Father & mother talk of his service in that capacity, & also heard other persons converse with him upon the same subject of service; has heard him say at different times, before the year 1812
that there was land due him from the State of New York for his service as surgeons mate, in the war under Genl Washington.  That said John Elliot, deponents father, went to Canada from Devon, & lived there several months between from 1800 & 1812, and that said deponent also moved to Canada, & lived in the same town of "Elizabethtown" from the year 1817 til the year of 1838,  and then removed to the State of New York, - that his father enlisted as volunteer in the war of 1812 in the U S. Services, marched to Sacketts Harbor and died there in service, as deponent hear the same season to wit, winter (January) 1815 which the deponent was in service as a volunteer at Morristown, (St. Lawrence River, County, N.Y.
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Said deponent further testifies, that after the death of his father the said John Elliot & about the year 1817 or 1818, and while he was a resident at Devon, a man came to his mothers residence in said town, & said he lived in Albany, & told his mother that said within the said, Nelly Elliot, that he wanted to buy the land claim that her late husband down in the State of New York, for his services as a Surgeon in the Revolutionary war, & before he went away, he offered her and the heirs, fifteen hundred dollars for said claim, which she did not accept, as she was wholly uninformed of the value of the 1300 acres, which she understood he was entitled to. -  that he has forgotten the name of this man, & has not since seen him.  - That none of the children of the family have any school education, or advantages of business training, & none of them as he believes could write their names, or know the common rules of mathematics, - and their claim rests as unavailable, from their poverty, & ignorance of course of procedures to establish it - That no title has ever passed from his father to any person for said card [illegible insert] & that a quit claim deed from one Conelly, (who he is supposed to be a brother of a  man called Maj. Conelly, who was, or pretended to be, as agent for troops, generally, & who took away from the Secretary of States office the Patent granted to his father - without orders or assignment known at the Secretarys office, as deponent is informed & holding)
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is the only title that can be shown, or that has pretended to be made, or is of record in the counties where said land lies, as he is lately informed by the [illegible] County Clerk, & believes.
He further says that all the sons, Henry, Joseph & s? deponent, removed to Canada, said Henry about the year 1808, Joseph in the year 1815, & deponent about 2 years afterward, said Joseph & Henry died in Elizabethtown, and was at the time of their deaths, respectively, Subjects of the British Government
                                        John Elliot
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                                          his mark
In presence of Jay Hathaway sworn to & subscribed before me, on the day &
year first above mentioned, said deponent made his mark above, as he cannot write - witness my hand & seal of office at Rome N.Y.
F H Fermoil
Notary Public
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100 Kenrich St
Brighton, Mass.
June 27, 1934
[seal]  RECEIVED June [illegible] VETS. ADM. 
Pension Service
Veterans' Administration
Washington, D.C.
For some years past I have been trying to
discover for Genealogical Purposes,  the family antecedent of this John Elliot, Surgeons Mate, referred to in the enclosed letter.
You will see in reading the letter, that Mr.
Parrott of the Land Office suggested my
writing to you.  If you can give me any information regarding this man, or hints as to how I might uncover the facts needed, I will appreciate it very much.
He seems to have enlisted in Berkshire Co. Mass. and appears several times in the Archives as on command at Saratoga.  Whether he really was
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a Mass. (Massachusetts) man, or whether he crossed the border from N.Y. to enlist, I wish very much to determine.
Kindly excuse pencil, as I have no writing facilities at hand.
Yours very truly
Eva L. Moffatt
P. S. If you have any information on
Col. Robert Elliott of the Revolution who
served in Rhode Island, I would
like to have that too.
E. L. M.
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RECORD DIVISION
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
Briefed by   W. D. G.
Claim No.
Certificate No.
Claimant    Nelly (widow)
Soldier        John Elliot
Service        War of 1812
Additional Service
No .........claim, State records......., 191
No ..........claim, combination records......., 191
REMARKS:
no O. W. widow as above
1/15/15
H. C. Bell
Chief Division.












OF
VISION
Department of the Interior
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
W.D.G.
Claim No.
Certifions No.
Amos Kelly (widow)
John Elliot
War 1812
Additional Service
No. claim, as records, 292
No claim, combination records 192
REMARKS:
No O. W. Widow as
above
1115/15
-- 1904
gen
Hobel
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1934-Aug. 6 - Hist to Eva
L. Moffatt. EEL
3302      REJECTED
Nelly Elliott
Service:     John
Surgeon's mate     N.Y.
Listed:
Discharged:
Application Filed:
[illegible]
Re-enlisted:
Attorney:
[illegible]
                Recognized        Contract
        Cert. of Dis.   Searched for ............, 18
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W. G.  [illegible]
May 25/34
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Pension Office
25th May 1854
Sir,
The additional evidence in the case of Nelly Elliott decd widow of John of New York, has been received.
The additional proof does not remove or in any manner answer the objections to the admission of this claim, of which you were notified by letters from this Office
of date 23rd Sept. 1852 and 11th July
1853.
W. G. Wade Esq
Rose.
N.Y.
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Nelly Elliot decd
widow of John
N.Y.









W. G. Wade
Rose
N.Y.
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Rose New York
May 19th 1854
Sir
Enclosed is additional evidence in the
claim of Nelly Elliot of N.Y.
Very respectively
[illegible]
For W. G. Wade
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Act July 7 1838
Nelly Elliott dec widow of John NY
Married    1784 [illegible]
John died 1814  [illegible] of Court
Nelly " 26 Oct   1850      do
Amy Wood, Hannah Barham,     do
Harriet-Dayton & John Elliott, Admin.
children surviving.
Served in 1st Reg. Continental Army, NY, as a Surgeons Mate - Certificate issued to him by NY for 1300 acres land.
Lots described
No record of marriage, private or public.
Certificate of the Town clerk of Dover, showing
that he has no confidence of the marriage,
Certificate of Court showing that it was proven to its
satisfaction that Elliott had decd.  [illegible]
Samuel Edmunds & Dan Batts knew John & Nelly as early as '84, they had 2 children as early as '87
Saml Edmunds gives a fuller affidavit - to the same
point.
Henry Wheeler 67 years old knows John & Nelly
lived together as man & wife from his earliest recollection
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Lucy Barham says she was married in 1797 and that John & Nelly were certainly married, at least ten years before that, - he has often heard Elliott say he was entitled to a large tract of land for his services in the war of the Revolution
Dave J Butts lived with his mother in a part of the house occupied by Elliott in 1789 or '90. Elliott then had 2 children he was married in '96, kept a Record.  Elliott married 10 or 12 yes before, - always heard Elliott say he was entitled to land for services  as surgeon's mate.
E M Swift - 61 years old, knew the family since 1800, had several children then, one much larger than himself
Thos Wood, 57 years old he always heard Nelly apart that she was entitled to land for husbands services as surgeon's mate
H Swift - 68 years old in 1801 became acquainted with Elliotts family, they had a son as old as deponent.
Letter 23 Sep 1852                Triplett
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Additional evidence
case of -
Nelly Elliot -
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State of New York
Onondaga County Clerks Office
Syracuse August 23. 1853
I do hereby certify that from an examination of the Records of Deeds in this Office by the Numerical Indices I find no conveyance recorded therein executed by John Elliott for Lots
No 1 Lysander 97 Solon or 89 Tully or any part of the same which appear to have been drawn by him
E T. Hopkins
Dept Clk
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W. G. Wade
July 11 /53
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Pension Office
July 11 1853
Sir,
By a reference to the letter of my predecessor to you of the 23 September last, in the case of Nelly Elliott decd widow of John of NY act July 7 1838.  You will perceive that the additional evidence now filed, does not meet the requisitions of the Office.
The record of the birth of Amy Wood has not been furnished, nor has any satisfactory account been given of the disposition of the land obtained by a John Elliott for military services during the war of the Revolution.  It is not sufficient to show that he always asserts a claim for land, and that his wife did the same.  The Certificate for the land as was issued to himself, and it is strange of some one else, without any authority from him, should have received it.
W. G. Wade  Esq Rome, NY








can of Nelly Elliott decd widow of Jno all
Act July 7 1838. you will perceive that the
additional evidence now filed, does
not meet the requisitions of the Office
The Record of the birth of any and has
not been furnished, he has any dates
factory account been given of the dispo
tion of the Land obtained by a John
Elliott for Military dues during the
war of the Revolution, is not
sufficient to shew that he always as
said a claim for law, and that his
wife did the same, the certificate
for the law was issued to himself,
and it is strange of some one he with
●
entary authority for him, here have
received it
W.G. Waileby Race N
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Sir
Washington
April 7th  53
Sir,
Enclosed is additional
evidence in the claim of Nelly Elliot
widow of John, applicant for a pension
under act 7th July 1838. from New York
I am Respectfully
Your Obt Servt  [your obedient servant]
W G Wade

Hon L P Waldo
Com of Pensions
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W.G. Wade
Sept 23rd /52
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Pension Office
Sep 23 1852
Sir
I have again examined the claim of Nelly Elliott decd of NY widow of Inv. for the benefit of the act of July 7 1838.
Her husband must be identified with the Surgeon's mate who received Bounty Land - The certificate for the Land was
issued to himself, it must be shown her the land went out of his possession.
 I observed that Amy Wood, one of the children says she has a Record of her age, let that Record be furnished. The [illegible] testimony of marriage would [illegible] right if no record could be obtained, but if Amy Wood is old enough, to show by her birth that her parents were married before 1794, there would be no further difficulty about the date of that event

W G Wade Esq
Rose NY
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W.G. Wade
Aug 4/52
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Pension Office
Aug 21 1852
In reply to yours of May 11, I have
to inform you that the case of Nelly Elliott
of NY was reported to you July 3 1832
W.G. Wade Esq
Present
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Rose, Wayne Co. NY,
12th July 1852

Sir,
In Dec or Jan'y last I filed the Declaration
in the case of Nelly Elliot, Act 38, NY, and by special permission of Mr Wilson then ship clerk, the proofs & papers were retained in my hands, until such time as the claim should come before the Office "in its proper turn".  On or about the 23rd of March I was informed the claim was reached in its turn, I then left the 
papers and proofs at the Pension Office for examination, - which not having taken place.   I may respectfully beg leave to call your special attention to the case, and request that you will have the other case taken up & examined.
I am very respectfully
Your Obedient Servant.
W. G. Wade


Capt. F F A. Triplett
Chief Clerk
Pension Office
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W. G. Wade
July 3, 1852,
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Pension Office
July 3 1852
Sir

The Declaration of Nelly Elliott decd has
been received and filed under the Act of
July 7 1838 and will be examined when
you furnish the proof of service, which
you say you are in possession of.

W. G. Wade Esq
Present
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1851
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1784
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Washington,
May 11th 1852.
Sir,
The declaration in the claim
of Nelly Elliot, widow of John, -
act 7th July 1838 n.b. was left at
your Office, in Dec 1851 or the first 
of January 1852, - no report having 
been rec?  I very respectfully ask 
an examination of the papers filed
Very Respectfully
Your Obt Servt,
W. G. Wade

J. E. Heath   Esq
Office of Pensions.
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2       Town Clerk
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The office of Town Clerk in Dover, that
foregoing certificate is true.-
STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY OF DUCHESS
I, Joseph T. Adrianos, Clerk of the County of Dutchess, and of the County Courts of said
County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, THAT Shaudauet Wheeler Esq whose name is subscribed to the CERTIFICATE of the proof or Acknowledgment of the annexed instrument, and thereon written, was at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment, a Justice of the Peace
in and for the county aforesaid, dwelling in said county, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorized to take the name. And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of such Justice and verily believe that the signature to said Certificate of proof or acknowledgement is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said Courts and County, the twenty second day of Dec 
AD 1857
J. T. Adrianos Clerk.
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State of New York
Dutchess County 
I Hiram W Chapman 
Town Clerk of the town of Dover in the county aforesaid, do hereby certify that no Public record of marriages
til the last 10 years are known to have been kept, or exist in the town archives of the town of Dover nor until very recently, was there any such statute requirement.
I Hiram W Chapman the said Town Clerk depose & say that I hold the office of Town Clerk in Dover, & that the foregoing certificate is true.
Hiram W. Chapman
Sworn before me,
words "til last -10- years"
inserted above.
This 22 day of December, 1857
Shandanet W[illegible] Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
Oneida County
I Othniel J. Williams
Surrogate of said county, do hereby certify that at a Surrogates Court held in aforesaid county before me the said Surrogate at Rome, on the 2nd day of December AD 1857, it was proven by the adduction of testimony satisfactory to the said Court, that Nelly Elliot widow of John Elliot who was a Surgeons mate in the 1st New York Regiment Revolutionary War, late of Dover, N.Y. died on the twenty sixth day of October one thousand eight hundred fifty in said town of Dover,
that said John Elliot died at Sackets Harbor in
the year 1814, was then in service U. S. - That at the time of her death she left her surviving the following named children born to her & said John in lawful wedlock, viz: John Elliot
58 /almost/ Amy Wood 53, Hannah Burhams about 47, Harriet Dayton 45,
and they are her and his only children now surviving and aged as above stated, & residents of state of New York - It was also proven that John, Surg' mate, received 1300
acres of land as bounty, and I further certify that John Elliot of Rome, son above named, of said John & Nelly, has been duly appointed administrator of the estate of said Nelly Elliot
deceased, & is legally authorized and qualified to act as such, said Nelly remains as the widow 
of said John late Surgeons mate, to the day of her death.
In testimony whereof I have herewith
subscribed my name, & office in the seat of 
the said court, this 29th day of December 1857
Othniel S. Willams
Surrogate
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3.
State of New York
Dutchess County

On this 2 day of December
AD 1857, before me a Justice of the Peace
in aforesaid county, duly  authorized to administer oaths,
personally came Samuel Edwards aged 82 years, and 
& Daniel J Butts aged 73 of the town of Dover in said county, who are credible witnesses, & who after being duly sworn, do on their oaths say, that they knew John Elliot late Surgeons mate 1st Reg. New York State, Revolutionary line, & Nelly his
wife, just after the war of the Revolution, & as
early as the year 1784, that said John & Nelly
lived in said town, then called Pawling, but
now Dover, from that period as man & wife,
they kept house, & he cultivated a farm, they had then 2 children in 1787 & had others afterward, said deponents knew said children & know those now alive to wit John, Amy, Hannah and Harriet, & they are the only living children of said John & Nelly, - said deponents were acquainted with them for a long series of years & to the time of their death, said John died from the year 1814 in service at Sackets Harbor, as reported & believed, said Nelly died at Dover, October 26th 1850, said deponents never had a doubt but said John and Nelly were lawfully married, I never heard a doubt expressed, said Nelly remained a widow from 1814 til the day of her death.  John Elliot their __ child, is now above the age of 58 years, that 
deponent Butts lived in said John Elliots house in 1788 or '89, said deponent have never possessed the name of Justice of Peace by whom they were [illegible] to be [illegible] have no interest in the claim of said children, to the
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pension due to estate of said Nelly Elliot,
and processed by John Ellison son & heirs
to said Nelly.  That said Edmond knew [illegible] the said John and Nelly,
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STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY OF DUTCHESS
I, Joseph T. Adriance, Clerk of the County of Dutchess, and of the County Courts of said
County, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, that Shandanet  Wheeler, Esq whose name is subscribed to the CERTIFICATE of the proof or Acknowledgment of the annexed instrument, and thereon written, was, at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment, a Justice of the Peace
in and for the county aforesaid, dwelling in said county, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorized to take the same.  And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing
of such Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate of proof or
acknowledgment is genuine.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said Courts and County, the twenty second - day of Dec - 
A D 1857
Joseph T. Adriance (signature) Clerk.
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State of New York
County of Dutchess
On this 26th day of January 1852 before
him as Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly authorized to administer Oaths personally came Samuel Edmond of Dover in said County aged eighty two year who is a credible witness and who after being duly Sworn doth in his oath say in addition to what is contained in his former affidavit. that he knew said John Elliot and his wife Nelly whose maiden name was Burham, before their marriage. That he was not present at their marriage. That soon after their reputed marriage and as early as the year 1784 they commenced house keeping in a house about one mile from the house of witnesses father in the town of Pawling (now Dover) and that previous to this year 1794.  They moved on to a farm in said town about one mile west of this place where they commenced house keeping. and lived on said farm a number of years after.  That during this time they lived on said farm.  This deponent about the year 1784 hired out to work for one Albertus Wheeler on a farm only separated from Elliots by the highway. and worked for said Wheeler four seasons -.  That said Elliots and Wheelers. dwelling houses were about eighty rods apart
That during said four years and long afterwards said John and Nelly lived together as man and wife.  That when this deponent began work for said Wheeler said John and Nelly had two or three children and had one or two born during the four years deponent lived with said Wheeler.  That he cannot state the day of the birth of any of said children or their precise age. but that Henry Elliot the oldest son if alive is over sixty eight years of age.  That this deponent does not know if any record of the marriage of John and Nelly
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and the ages of their children.  That this deponent [illegible] married in the year 1799 - and the said Nelly Elliot and this a [illegible] person known and [illegible] [illegible]
day and year [illegible]
                              Samuel Edmond
Shandamant Wheeler Justice of the Peace


County and Courts, this 29 day of January
A.D. 1852
Joseph Adriance  Clerk
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STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY OF DUTCHESS
I, Joseph T. Adriance, Clerk of the County of Dutchess, and of the Courts of said County,
DO HEREBY CERTIFY, THAT Shandanat Wheeler Esq whose name subscribed to the annexed 
[illegible] Certificates and thereon written, was at the time of taking the same a Justice of the Peach in and for the County aforesaid, dwelling in the said County, duly elected and sworn and authorized to take the same.  And further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of  the said Justice, and verily believe that the signature to the said [illegible] Certificates genuine.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said County and Courts, this 29 day of January A.D. 1852
Joseph T. Adriance   Clerk
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Elliot John
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State of New York
Dutchess County  On this 26th day of January 1852  before me
a Justice of the peace in and for said County, duly authorized to administer oaths personally came Henry Wheeler of Dover of said County aged sixty seven years who is a credible witness 
and who after being duly sworn doth on his oath say that he knew John  Elliot and Nelly his wife.  That this deponent from his infancy until said
John Elliot left Dutchess County and lived within 
one mile of said John Elliot.  That during all that period said John and Nelly lived together as man and wife and were reputed and accepted by and amongst their neighbors.  That they had a family of children to wit:  Henry, Joseph, John. Sally Polly Hannah Amy and Harriet.  That Henry Elliot was the oldest and he was one or two years older than this deponent.  That said Henry and this deponent were schoolmates until both were grown up.  That before the war of 1812 said John Elliot left Dutchess County and as this deponent has been informed and believes died somewhere in the northern part of this state -
That said John Elliot and his wife lived in a house about a mile east of the deponents father and when deponent was quite small he moved on to a farm adjoining the farm of deponents father where he lived till he left Dutchess County and time his death his widow lived on said farm until within a few years last past -
                                               Henry Wheeler
Sworn and subscribed before me
this year and day first above written
Shandanet Wheeler
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State of New York
County of Dutchess
Lucy Burham of the town of Dover in the said County and state personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the peace duly authorized to administer oaths and being first duly sworn according to law saith that she was 72 years of age on the 14th day of October 1851 that he has always had a record of her age from her earliest recollection and from which time he has resided in the said town of Dover. that she was well acquainted with John Elliot who married Nelly Burham in said town and County, before deponents recollection. That this deponent married a brother of said Nelly Burnham and she well knows that John Elliot who married Nelly Burham more than fifty years ago frequently stated he had been engaged in the war of the Revolution as surgeons mate a assistant surgeon and that he had a large tract of land which he called. Soldiers Right land to which he was entitled for such service. That she has was asked him if she thought he asked him if he thought he should ever get his land from the State. He replied he did not know.  He never had seen the land. nor did he know exactly where it was located.  but he insisted he had a just claim and never had disposed of it.  He left Dover about the year 1802 or 1803. and it was said went to Canada after staying in Dover a short time and never again returned and it was said he engaged in the war of 1812.  and died in service.  That he left said Nelly his widow and that she she remained his widow until her death in October 1850 
Deponent was well acquainted with this and knows that at this time of this deponents own marriage which was on the 18th day of November with after she was 18 years of age in October 15 1797 and did not take place in more than ten years after the deponents marriage of said John Elliot and Nelly Burham as she had
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no distinct recollection of knowing them before they were married and further she well knows their oldest child Henry
Elliot. was but some four to six years younger than deponent and she distinctly recollects that at the time of her marriage to Mr  Burham brother of Nelly Elliot said John and Nelly had at least five children all own brothers and sisters and all own sons and daughters of said John and Nelly Elliot That she well knows their six eldest childrens names were Henry Sally Joseph Catharine John and Polly and the sixth youngest whose affidavit is herewith forwarded was Amy Elliot. and they had two more they had two more Harriet and Hannah are still
younger - Henry and Joseph went to Canada about the time of soon after their father went and lived and died there.   John afterwards went to Canada & has not been back to Dover but once or twice since but is now living in Oneida County N.Y.
He understands that John Any Catharine and Harriet are the only children now living  - Henry fully believes said Nelly Burnam and John Elliot were lawfully married as though she had seen them married as she never has heard any doubt [illegible] by any person as to their marriage and she knows said Nelly has often stated as well as her own husband (now dead that Nelly lived with one Elder Waldo before her marriage and she believes that this Elder Waldo married them.
Deponent further states she knows the widow Elliot has often mentioned within the last 15 or 20 years that she was entitled to land and a large sum of pension money if she could only have it looked after but she was very destitute - her sons all in Canada or dead and none of her daughters or their husbands were able or willing to assist her
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She does not think any claim was ever presented although from her husbands and her own statements
deponent has no doubt but what she was justly entitled to both land and pension.
She has always, understood and believes said Elliot entered the service of the United States from Dover or in Dutchess County as this was his native plain as she understood - that said Elder Waldo was a Baptist preacher in /dover and has been dead over 50 years as she has been informed and believes.
                                          Lucy
                                    Her   X    Mark
                                        Burnham
Sworn and subscribed before me
this 3rd day of March 1852
Homer Hitchcock Justice of the peace
I certify that the above named Lucy Burnham is
a credible person and not having hand to write
marks her mark
Homer Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
County of Dutchess
Personally appeared before this subscriber
a Justice of the peace duly authorized by law to administer oaths David J. Butts of the town of Dover in said county and State who being first duly sworn according to law saith that he was 73 years of age on the 16th day of September 1851.  That he has from his earliest 
recollection always had access to a record of his age and knows this is correct.  He was born in said town of Dover and has from his birth 
resided in said town with the exception of six years (from 1843 to 1849.)  That this deponent
distinctly recollects that when he was about 
nine or ten years old he lived with his mother
who was a widow in one part of John Elliots house whose wife was then living with said John Elliot.  Her name was Nelly and whose name before her marriage to Elliot was Nelly Burham  That he has been personally acquainted with said John Elliot and his said wife Nelly from his earliest recollection  That
from his age he knows it was as early as 1789 or 1790 when deponent with his mother lived in this house with said John Elliot and his wife Nelly and that at this at that time said John and Nell Elliot had two children which put together with the circumstance that their third
child was born very soon after deponent and his left their (Elliots) house.  He most distinctly 
recollects - the deponent knew the brothers and sisters of Nelly Elliot whose maiden name was Nelly Burham.  That from this circumstance of said Nelly Elliot repeatedly stating about her having lived with one Elder Waldo a baptist
preacher (then living in Dover). before her marriage he believes said Nelly Elliot late widow of John Elliot and whose maiden name was Nell Elliot immediately after the close of the Revolutionary war and within one or two years from this time said [illegible] left the army and believes by said Elder Waldo with whom Nelly Burham stated she had been living
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Deponent further states that he himself was married in the month of July 1796 being about two months before he was eighteen years of age.
That he was married in said town of Dover by Esquire Walter Lathrop to Lydia his first wife.  deponent is positive as to the date of his own marriage from this fact That the very next day after he was married as above stated in
July 1796 he wrote down the date of his marriage
and has kept a record from that time until within a few years past, as before stated deponent has resided in said town of Dover from his birth and that he well knows is positive and cannot be mistaken in attesting that said John Elliot and Nelly Burham were married at least two months
before this deponent was, and that as he knows he was married in July1796 two months before he was 18 years old and knows that the oldest child of said John and Nelly Elliot was not more than 5 to 7 years younger than deponent. and from this fact that he cannot recollect of seeing said John and Nelly before they were living together as man and wife although they had been born and brought up in said town as deponent understood.  He believes they were married as early as 1784 or 1785.  Deponent further saith that saith that said John Elliot always claimed as deponent has heard him state more than 50 years since or from his boyhood that the said Elliot had a large tract of land due him for his service in the Army of the Revolution as a surgeons mate or assistant surgeon that after spoke of claims for such services and of his intention to look up his land.  but as said John Elliot was a very remarkably singular.  [illegible], possessing very little energy of character he never made any effort to [illegible] his claims for his service as surgeons mate in the Revolutionary Army to deponents knowledge and from this fact that he did not possess
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enough energy to collect his honest due from his neighbors unless they were perfectly willing to pay him. as he never would take a legal process to collect a debt however 
Just, and from his general habits of seeking 
[illegible] and case deponent does not believe he would have put himself to any trouble or influence to investigate or protect his claims
against government however large or just they might have been That the whole family of children of said John Elliot and his wife Nelly  were a [illegible] remarkable and singular family on this account than any family deponent ever knew.  as every and each one of their children possess the same traits of character of their father to a very great degree,
being remarkably just alike.  They are [illegible] mind - their - own business sort of people.
That said John Elliot left this town of Dover about the year of 1802 or 1803. for Canada
was absent a few years - came back tarried a short time. again left and never returned but deponent understood engaged in the war if 1812 and dies during this war.  
That his boys all left soon for Canada Where he had been informed Henry the oldest of their children and Joseph died.  Deponent has heard the annexed affidavit of Amy Wood [illegible] and believes her statement therein to be true.  He well knows the said Amy Wood has five or six brothers and sisters older than herself and as own children of John Elliot and his wife Nelly
As before stated deponent has resided near the family from his earliest recollection (6 years or after).  That within the last fifteen years Nelly widow of said John Elliot has frequently spoken of her claim for land and for a pension for her said husbands service as surgeons mate  in the Revolutionary war.  That the state of the claims [illegible] only attended to theirs was a large sum of money and a large tract of land justly due them and
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agree to investigate her claim but as she was so very poor and unable to assist him and his being entirely ignorant of the proper steps to be taken no papers were prepared although deponent had at the time and always has had full confidence in her statements and in those
of the husband John Elliott. Deponent further saith that said Widow Nelly Elliot died on or about the 26th day of October 1850.  That deponent knows that said widow Nelly Elliott who died as stated is the identical person who was at his earliest recollection living with
John Elliot as his wife and with whom deponent believes1785 and 1890 as before stated in the same house and who then had two children and soon after a third the eldest of which was five or six years younger than
deponent and that said John Elliott who was formerly the husband of said widow is the identical person who claimed to be intitled to a large tract of land for his Military service as surgeons mate in the Revotionary war. Deponent cannot State to what Regiment or line said Elliot was attached but as this County was his fathers and brothers residence.  deponent fully believes that it was to the New York State troops

Daniel J. Butts [signature]

Sworn and subscribed before me this [blank] 
day of March 1852

Thomas Hitcher Justice of the Peace I certify that the above named Daniel J Butts is a
credible witness and that the words personally I [illegible] was interlined before sworn to the words from and spoken interlined
Homer Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
County of Dutchess
M. Personally appeared before the subscriber a
Justice of the peace in and for said County duly authorized to administer oaths Eleazer M Swift
of the town of Dover. in said county and state aged 61 years and upwards who first being duly sworn according to law. Saith that 
he knew John Elliot and Nelly his wife as early 
year 1800.  That they then lived together as husband and wife in said town of Dover on a hilly farm which has ever since been called the Elliot Hill or since the said Johns death called
Nelly hill.  That deponent knew that said John 
and Nelly had a family of children.  That deponent knew Henry Elliot, Joseph and John.  That Henry Elliot was the oldest and as deponent believes about six years older than this deponent.  That when deponent first knew said Henry he was much larger than deponent.
That deponent knows that said John and Nelly
Elliot lived together as man and wife as early as 
1800 from the fact that deponent was at the house of one Luther Holly in Dover near to the 
residence of said Elliot with deponents father and mother on a visit and saw some of the Elliot family.
and Holly sold his farm and executed a deed thereof which deed this deponent has in his possession - for two or three years - that said John Elliot left Dover about the year 1802 or 1803 and it was said went to Canada and that deponent has not seen him since - but has heard that he died several years ago.  That said
Nelly his wife has lived in Dover ever since.  Deponent first knew her and until her death in 
1850.  That said deed executed by said Luther Holly was dated either in 1799 or in 1800 and he moved from said town Dover about the date of deed - That in the South part of Dover there was there was an old meeting house
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standing about 12 years ago called Elder Waldo meeting house - deponent as much as 50 years ago heard and understood and believes that Elder Waldo was a baptist minister preaching in said old meeting house and that said Waldo died 50 years ago or more.  That deponent has made inquiry for papers or records of marriage by said Waldo and cannot have or find that he kept any such records -
                                                  Eleazer M Swift
Sworn and subscribed before me the 5 day of March 1832
[illegible] Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
I certify that Eleazer M Swift above named is 
a credible witness - and [illegible] [illegible] was [illegible] before sworn to -
                     Thomas Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
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Thomas Wood
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State of New York
County of Dutchess
Personally appeared before the subscriber
a Justice of the peach in and for said County duly authorized to administer oaths, Thomas Wood of the town of Dover in said County and state aged 57 years and upwards who first being duly sworn according to law saith that Nelly Elliot late widow of John Elliot has within
the last fifteen years lived with deponent more or less of the time and deponent well knows that said widow always claimed she was entitled to a large sum of money and Soldiiers Rights land for her husbands Revolutionary service as surgeons mate and that she has often spoken of her claim to a pension and 
made repeated requests to deponent and others to try and look it up and investigate it but for the reasons given in Mrs Amy Woods affidavit no application was made to deponents knowledge by the widow.  That
he has always understood from his first acquaintance with the family that John Elliot
died in Canada in 1814 Said Nelly died a widow in said town of Dover on the 26th day of October 1830 and that Amy Wood had six brothers and sisters older than herself

State of New York
County of Dutchess
I, Joseph T. Adriance, Clerk of the County of Dutchess and of said County,
DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT Homer Hitchcock Esq. whose name is subscribed to the annexed 
to the attached Jurat or Certificate, and therein written was at the time of taking the same a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid dwelling in the said County, duly elected and sworn, and authorized to take the same.  And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature of the said Jurat or Certificate is genuine.

In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said
County and Courts, this 26th day of March A.D 1852
Joseph T. Adriance
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State of New York
County of Dutchess
Personally appeared before the subscriber
a Justice of the peace in and for said County duly authorized to administer oaths.  
Thomas Wood of the town of Dover
in said County and State aged 57 years and upwards who first being duly sworn according to law saith that Nelly Elliot late widow of John Elliot has within the last fifteen years lived with deponent more or less of the time and deponent well knows that said widow
always claimed she was entitled to a large sum of money and Soldier Right land for her husbands Revolutionary  services as Surgeons mate and that she has often spoken of her claim to a pension and made repeated requests to deponent and others to try and look it up and investigate it but for the reasons
given in Mrs Amy Woods affidavit no application was ever made to the deponents knowledge by the widow.  That he has always understood from his first acquaintance with the family that John Elliot died in Canada
in 1814 said Nelly died a widow in said town
of Dover on the 21st day of October 1850 and 
that Amy Wood had six brothers and sisters older than herself
                                                 his
                                    Thomas  X  Wood
                                                mark
Sworn and subscribed before 
me this third day of March 1852
Homer Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
I certify that Thomas Wood above named is a credible person and that being almost blind is unable to see to write
               Homer Hitchcock Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
County of Dutchess
Personally appeared before the Subscribe
a Justice of the peace duly authorized by law to administer oaths Henry Swift of the town of Poughkeepsie in said County and State who being first duly sworn according to law saith that he was 68 years of age on the [illegible] day of February 1852 that in the year 1801
he first went to school away from home and 
was at the same school a part of the year of 
1801 and apart of the year 1802 in the town of Dover in Dutchess County.  That during the time he was there at school in Dover he became acquainted with John Elliot and Nelly his wife who lived together as man and wife in a house about one hundred rods from the school house when the deponent went to school.  That he recollects distinctly that their oldest child was a boy named Henry who was very near the age of this deponent and he also knew one of their girls who lived sometime at the house of deponents father and deponent knows that they had a family of children but does not recollect their names.   That said John and Nelly lived together as man and wife and he always believed they were married and never heard any doubt of their being married
That said John left Dutchess County a few years after deponent became acquainted with him and it was said had gone to Canada and his wife lived at Dover aforesaid til her death that deponent distinctly recollects That they lived together at the time above stated from 
the fact that that he at that time first went
[illegible]
                               H. Swift
Sworn and subscribed before me
on the [illegible] day of March 1852
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STATE OF NEW YORK.
COUNTY OF DUTCHESS.
I, Joseph T. Adriance, Clerk of the County of Dutchess, and of the Courts of said County, DO
HEREBY CERTIFY THAT Cyrus K Corliss Esq whose name is subscribed to the annexed Jurat & Certificate, and thereon written, was at the time of taking the same a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, dwelling in the said County, duly elected
and sworn, and authorized to take the same. And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand  writing of the said Justice, and verily believe that the signature to the said Jurat & Certificate is genuine.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said
County and Courts, this 1st of March A.D. 1852
Jospeh T. Adriance Clerk
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for Washington
John Elliot
Surgeons Mate
N Y line
Revolutionary war,
Application of heirs of
Nelly Elliot
for benefits of
Act 7th July 1838
- 3rd March - 48,17th June
44 - & July 48. -
proofs & papers situated 
in hands of atty -
who wishes to be present
with papers when the
claims come up for exami-
nation, -
W. G. Wade
[illegible]
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State of New York
Oneida County ⎬
I John Elliot of Rome NY am son & heir of John
Elliot a surgeons mate 1st Reg. N.Y. line Revolutionary War, who rec'd of the state of New York 1300 acres of land, as his right & reward under the state law, & who was husband to Nelly Elliot my Mother, said John died in service of NY at Sackets Harbor in 1814, said Nelly died at Dover NY about 2 years
since. -  I as to have an investigation of her claim to pension for his services.
                                              his
                                   John     X   Elliot
                                             mark
In presence of Jay M Hatheway
The foregoing statement [illegible] & sworn to before me by John Elliot, who made his mark
                       F A (or F H) [illegible]
                              Notary Public
I know all men by these presents that I John
Elliot, son & heir of John Elliot a Surgeons mate 1st Regt in the N.Y. line Revolutionary
War, do hereby constitute & appoint Willis G Wade to investigate the claim of the estate of my late mother Nelly Elliot widow of said John
Elliot, to a pension for his services in said war; & to ask and demand a pension certificate for the said pension due the estate of said Nelly deceased, & to do all necessary acts & things in their promises
Witness my hand & seal at Rome N.Y.
this 26th of November 1851. -
                                   his
                            John  X  Elliot
                                  mark
In presence of Jay Hatheway
The above power of attorney acknowledged
before me by John Elliot as his act & deed this
26 November 1851, [illegible] his mark above
as he cannot write. - Witness my hand & seal of office at Rome






























































No one Son & heir of John Elliot a
Signs at N.Y. Line Revolutionary War
who recd of the State of New York 1300 and
of land, as his right & reward under the State
law, who was husband to duly this my
Mother, said John died in him of Masachet
Harber in 1844, said Holly died at County about
two years since.-- I ask to have an investigation
of her claim to pension for his service
presence of
by Hatheway
foregoing statement
and sworn the been
his
John Elliot
mark
Sons Ellis who made his mark
moment
Notary Public
The
Know all men by these presents that I John
Elliot Son & heir of John Elliot who was
Singus mate in the N York line Revolution
any war, do hereby constitute & appoint
Willis G. Wade to investigate the claim of
the estate of my late mother Nally Elliot
widow of said John, to a pension for his
services in said war, & to ask & demand
a pension certificate for the said pension found
due the estate of said Nelly deceased & to
do all necessary act & things in the premises
Witness my hand seal as then
S
this 26th of November 1887 -
some of aloney acknowledged John Elliot
list as
the
a
his mark
my hand & seal in
In persive &
Jay Hathaway
as he
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In the matter of John Elliot's claim vs affidavit of Jacob Covenhoven
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State of New York
Oneida County
On this 20th day of March AD 1852
before me a Justice of the Peace authorized to administer oaths in the said county for general purposes, came Jacob Covenhoven aged 44 years same personally known as a credible
witness who after being duly sworn deposed & says that about the year 1841 or 2 he was acquainted with John Elliot now surviving
who then lived in the town of Boonville
(where deponent then resided & now resides)
at which mentioned time the said deponent John Elliot son surviving states & claimed that his father John Elliot deceased was a Surgeon's mate in the war of the American revolution in the New York Line and that he was entitled to receive a pension and the said Elliot now surviving procured the aid of this deponent in 
[illegible] a claim for a pension for his mother, the widow of the said John Elliot deceased
and this deponent wrote to the Secretary of State for the estate aforesaid for information in regard thereto for the purpose of having search made for records to support said
claim, but before any progress was made 
in the said investigation it was abandoned for want of funds and further deponent says not.
Sworn before me this 20th day of March AD 1852.
J R Tharratt
Justice of the Peace
                           Jacob Covenhoven
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Simeon Mace
affidavit
N. Elliot(t)
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State of New York
Oneida County
St:
On this 29th day of March 1852
before me a Justice of the Peace, duly authorized to administer oaths, in & aforesaid county, came Simeon Mace, a resident of Floyd in Oneida County, aged 73 years, who is a credible witness, & who after being duly sworn saith, that he formerly resided in the town of Pawlings N.Y. and at a period as early
as 1779, that while living in said town, he became acquainted with John Elliot of the same place who was reported to be in the same in the Revolutionary war, & was called a surgeons mate of the New York State troops & said deponent has at several different times heard his father & said John Elliot converse together, on the subject of their said services, and heard them declare they were in [illegible] & served several campaigns together in that war.  Said deponent, was acquainted with said John, family, & saw them often - his wife's first name was Nelly and their oldest child was named Henry, Joseph, & John Jr (John Jr now [illegible] was their sons, Sally & Catherine
was the names of two daughters.  The boys
emigrated & went as reported to Canada.   
Deponent knows the family from at least 35 years, & when he removed, said family was still there.  deponent knows that John Jr. now
here is the same person he knew at Pawlings as the son of John & Nelly Elliot as aforesaid.
He has no interest in the claim of their children
for pension.
deponent & father & said John Elliot worked together many days for the Wheelers, & 
[illegible] farmers & often talked of the war.
                                          Simeon Mace
Sworn & subscribed before me on the day & year first & above written. -
Linus L Moulton Justice of the Peace
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State of New York 
Oneida  County S. 

On this 26" day of March before me a Justice of the Peace of said County authorized to administer oaths for general purposes, came Isaac Utley aged 67 years to me personally known as a credible witness who after being duly sworn deposes & say that about the year 1839, he was acquainted with John Elliott one of ter his return from Canada in 1838, in the town of Oroville in said County (where this deponent then resided & now resides, at which mentioned time the said John Elliott was accustomed to take & claim that his father John Elliot was a Surgeon's mate in the New York line in the war of the revolution and claimed that a pension was due said John Elliott deceased, and that to the press and John Elliot claimed that he was entitled in that behalf, as the heir of said John Elliott deceased - And this deponent says that it was a matter of general report in said town of Broadville at that time, that said John Elliott was the son of the said John Elliott deceased who was a Sergeant in the New York Line in the war of the Revolution as aforesaid, and entitled to claim as heir of the said John Elliott deceased.
Isaac Utley 
Sworn & certified before as
the 26th day of March 1852 
J R Charralte
Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
ONEIDA COUNTY, CLERK'S OFFICE
I HEREBY CERTIFY, That Abner B. Blair J R Tharratt
& Linus L Moulton, Esquires, whose names are subscribed to the annexed affidavit re
and thereon written, [illegible] on the days of the datum of the same
to Justice of the Peace, in, and for said County, and sworn and duly authorized.  And further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of such Justices and verily believe that the signatures on the said affidavits re {illegible] 
be genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto affixed the seal of the said County, and subscribed my name, this
Fifth day of April 1853
Richard Gilbert     Clerk
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State of New York
Oneida County: SS John Elliot being first duly sworn according to law. Saith he is the administrator of Nelly Elliot late widow of John Elliot Surgeons Mate of the Revolutionary war for whose services application has been made for a pension.  That as to the requirements of the department. That some explanation must be made or given as to the disposition of the title [illegible] land granted to said Elliot for his revolutionary services as surgeons mate. This deponent can state that he has many years since understood that his fathers title to bounty land or soldiers right as commonly called, was never sold or transferred by his said father. That his said father having emigrated to Canada, never received his title to said lands. and that one Maj. Conley did go & pay the fee to & take out the patent for such lands. As appears of record at Albany. Without any written authority so to do & did sell the same by quit claims deed to his brother & other persons, as deponent is informed & believes. That some years after the death of his said father a man from Albany [illegible] came to said deponents mother the said Nelly for the purpose of purchasing said bounty lands, land this person proposed to pay the sum of $1500 dollars for the title to such land: the conditions of the payments were not agreed to by said Nelly & no transfer was made then or at any time to the knowledge of said deponent, but he fully believes no sale or transfer of said land was made at any time by his father or mother and deponent further knows that efforts were made. & inquiries instituted by this deponent 7 or 8 years since after about 14 years since for the purpose of ascertaining whether the land could be held by the widow and 6 children of said John Elliot after so long a delay but being ignorant of the manner of proceeding and receiving title or no encouragement from those to whom he applied, and being poor and without means to prosecute such investigation to any effect nothing was accomplished  Said deponent father [illegible]  that he left Canada during the Patriot wars & engaged in the service of Horace Adams Canal Contractor in Black River basin  in the year 1838 & endeavored to induce [illegible]
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Adams to join with him in getting claim established for his fathers bounty land, but failed so to do.
                                        his
                              John    X   Elliot
                                       mark

Sworn & Subscribed
before this 25th day of November 1852 at Rome and I certify that he made his mark above as he can't write
Abner B. Blair
Justice of the Peace


Oneida County SS
On this day & at this place above named came
before me, Horace Adams [illegible] in foregoing deposition who is known as a reliable witness, who after being sworn says that he well remembers the fact of John Elliot
applying to him some [illegible] when as [illegible] his canal job to engage in the enterprise to obtain these bounty lands above referred to, for the Revolutionary services of his late father, who he represented to have been a surgeons mate n the N.Y. line of the Revolutionary army. S. deponent has an interest in his application for a pension
                                      Horace Adams

Sworn & subscribed 
before me on the 
25. of November 
1852
Jay Hatheway
Notary Public