Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 17208, Lathrop Allen, Conn. New York
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(3—1776)

SERVICE
Conn.
New York.

Allen, Lathrop
Abigail

NUMBER
W. 17208.

CONTENTS
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Papers copied 13 Sept
for Col. L. Warner Ruggr
Present
Letter to Hon. R. McClellan H.R.
from Sec War 30 Dec. 1837

[  ]otification sent the 2[     ] 1820
A. B. Vander[    } Esq. 
Kinder[              ] N. York

(14 121)
New York
Lathrop Allen
of Hudson in the State of New York
who was a Captain in the regiment commanded
Colonel Elmore of the Connecticut
line, for the term of 1 year
Inscribed on the roll of N York
at the rate of 20 Dollars per month, to commenc 
the 10 of April 1818
Certificate of Pension issued the 10 of Sept 1[  ]
and sent to Dr. John A Brereto
Surgeon General's Office
Arrears to 4th of Sept 1819 16 mo 25/30 336 
Semi-anl. all'ce ending 4 March 1820 120
$456.
{Revolutionary claim,
Act 18th March, 1818.}
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State of New York
County of Columbia
City of Hudson ss} I Robert Jenkins Mayor of the City of Hudson and before whom the within affidavits of Lathrop allen & Moses Younglove have this day been made do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said Lathrop Allen did serve in the Revolutionary War as Stated in the preceding affidavit or declaration by him subscribed against the common enemy — I further certify that has been proved to me to my satisfaction that said Lathrop Allen is in reduced circumstances & stands in need of the assistance of his country for support — I further certify that I have been long personally acquainted with Moses Younglove whose name appears to his within affidavit and know him to be a most respectable ans credible witness — with William Munson within named I am not personally acquainted but it has been proved to me by respectable & credible men of my acquaintance that he is Surveyor of the Port of New Haven and a man of respectability & of perfect  truth & veracity. I therefore certify that I am satisfied that both the said witnesses are fully entitled to credit and I now transmit the testimony & proceedings taken & had before me to the Secretary for the Department of war pursuant to the directions of the aforementioned act of congress.
Hudson November 6 1818 — Robt. Jenkins 
Mayor of Hudson

State of New York
City of Hudson
Clerks office} ss I certify that Robert Jnekins whose name appears to the foregoing Certificate and to affidavits in said certificate referred to and hereto annexed is Mayor of the City of Hudson duly commissioned & sworn & that I have examined the Signature to the said certificate & affidavits and know them to be genuine & in the hand writing of the said Robert Jenkins. —
Witness my name & seal of the said court this 6th day of November 1818.
G. Gardner Clerk of Mayors Court.
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State of Connecticut
County of New Haven ss} William Munson, of the Town of New Haven, in the County and State aforesaid surveyor of the District of New Haven, being Duly Sworn Saith, that in the years 1776 & 1777 he was acquainted with Lathrop Allen, who is now applying for a pension, that Early in the year 1776, a Regiment was raised by order of Congress, from the New England troops then in Canada, whose term of service was about to Expire, the Regiment was raised for twelve months from the 15th Day of April 1776, that Samuel Elmore was appointed Colonel of the said Regiment and the said Lathrop Allen was the same time appointed a Captain in the same Regiment; in which capacity he Served faithfully to the personal knowledge of this Deponent, from the said 15th Day of April 1776 to the 15th Day of April 1777, this Deponent was likewise a Commissioned officer in said Regiment During all the said term [crossed out],
This Deponent further says that the said Regiment was not raised under the authority of any particular Colony, but that it was a Continental Regiment, the officers received Continental Commissions Signed by John Hancock as president of Congress, and the Regiment was paid off in Continental money at the time of their Discharge,
This Deponent further says that he is entirely Disinterested, & has nothing to gain or lose by making this affidavit, or by the said Allens obtaining or not obtaining his pension
William Munson Lieut. & Adjutant in the above said Regiment
Sworn before me this 26th Day of october 1818.
Elisha Munson Justice of the Peace

I Roger S. Skinner Clerk of the County of New Haven, in the State of Connecticut Do Certify, that Elisha Munson whose Name appears to the foregoing affidavit, and which [illegible] know to be his hand Writing, is a Justice of the peace in and for the County of New Haven in the State aforesaid Duly Commissioned and Sworn,
Witness my Name and the Seal of the County this 26th Day of October 1818
Roger S. Skinner Clk
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State of New York
Columbia County
City of Hudson ss} Moses Younglove of the city of Hudson aforesaid druggist being duly sworn saith that he has been acquainted with Captain Lathrop Allen within named ever since the Summer of 1776 — that he this deponent served by appointment of the colonel as Surgeon's mate in the regiment whereof Samuel Elmore was colonel on the continental establishment as near as he can remember from June 25 1776 untill April 25 1777 during all which time the said Lathrop Allen as captain commanded one of its companies & by the report & information of himself and his fellow officers of that regiment had served with them the preceding campaign in Canada — That he this deponent has never heard the integrity or credibility of th said Lathrop Allen questioned and he knows him to be old infirm & destitute of property and that he stands in need of the assistance of his country for support — This deponent further says that he has heard the preceding declaration of said Allen & has no doubt of the truth of the facts therein stated. — This deponent further says that he together with said Allen on the 10th day of April last went before [crossed out] Hezekiah Dayton then a Judge of the court of common pleas of the county of Columbia (but who has since recd another appointment & is no longer a Judge) and there made oath, the said Allen to the truth of the facts stated in a certain declaration [crossed out] or affidavit and this deponent to the truth of the facts stated in a certain affidavit which were signed by said Allen & this deponent respectively & which this deponent understands are now to be transmitted a second time to the war Department — This Deponent further says that he has not nor does not he now intend to apply for a pension under the act of congress of March 18. 1818 & that he has nothing to gain or lose by making this affidavit.
Moses Younglove
Sworn before me this 6th day of November 1818
Robt. Jenkins Mayor of Hudson
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of the forces commanded by General Wooster.
In February 1776 Doctor Franklin & other arrived in Canada as a committee of congress and in the organization of regiments which then took place this deponent received from them the appointment of Captain in a regiment of which Samuel Elmore was mad Colonel — a Mr. Brown (Christian name not recollected) Lieutenant Colonel and Robert Cochran Major
This deponent received his appointment as dod the other officers of said regiment from said committee ans afterwards they all received commissions signed by John Hancock as President of Congress. Thee commission of this deponent was dated April 15. 1776.
The regiment was raised for one year but the tenor of this deponents commission was "during the pleasure of that or a future congress.—
This deponent remained with the said Regiment and commanded a company therein untill the term of the men's enlistment had expired in April 1777, when they were discharged at Albany — after which the men being discharged and this deponent with others, not being named among the appointments for the new regiments raising to serve three years or during the war, he applied to General Gates then commanding at Albany to know whether he was also discharged and was
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answered in the negative and that as his commission was during the pleasure of congress it was probable he would soon be appointed in his rank in another corps. — In this view & holding himself ready he was variously employed by General Gates in sundry services and by other continental commanders and particularly under General [crossed out] Stark at the battle of Bennington and under General Gates at the capture of Burgoyne — in all he thinks [crossed out] he was in the continental service about three years if not more. For the most part of the year that this deponent held the commission of captain in Elmore's regiment, he with his regiment were in Garrison duty at the several posts on the Mohawk river and particularly at German Flats and Fort Stanwix
This deponent further says that his captain's commission above referred to was destroyed by a child about sixteen years ago — that he is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country fro support
Lathrop Allen
Sworn to & Declared before me this 6th day of November 1818
Robt. Jenkins
Mayor of Hudson
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State of New York
County of Columbia
City of Hudson} ss
On this Sixth day of November 1818 before me the subscriber Mayor of the city of Hudson & a Judge of the court of common pleas called the Mayors Court of said city personally appears Lathrop Allen resident in the said City aged Sixty six [crossed out] years who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of congress entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land & naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary war"
That he the said Lathrop Allen entered into the Service in the month of May 1775, soon after which he was attached to the regiment whereof Goose Van Schaack was colonel —
That he served as a Sergeant in Capt Baldwin's company in said regiment in the expedition against Canada untill the time being at Montreal in December 1775, he was appointed Lieutenant in the company of Captain Roswell Beebe
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Moses Younglove druggist of the City of Hudson County of Columbia & State of New York aged Sixty six years maketh oath that he hath been acquainted with Captain Lathrop Allen (who is now applying for a pension) ever since the summer of AD one thousand seven hundred & seventy six That this deponent by appointment served as Surgeons mate in the Regiment whereof Samuel Elmore was Colonel on the Continental establishment as nigh as he can rember from the twenty fifth day of June of that year until the twenty fifth day of April following during which time the said Lathrop Allen as Captain commanded one of its companies & by the report of him and of his fellow officers of the Regt. had served with them the preceding campaign in Canada That this deponent hath never heard the integrity or credibility of the said Captain Allen questioned and that he the said Allen is old infirm & destitute of propperty
Moses Younglove
Sworn ans Subscribed the 10th day of April 1818 before me 
Hezekiah Dayton One of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Columbia
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State of New York
County of Columbia
City of Hudson ss} I Robert Jenkins Mayor of the City of Hudson and before whom the within affidavits of Lathrop Allen & Moses Younglove have this day been made do Certify said Lathrop Allen did serve in the Revolutionary war as stated in the preceding affidavit or declaration by him subscribed against the common enemy. — I further certify that it has been proved to me to my satisfaction that said Lathrop Allen is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support — I further certify that I have been long personally acquainted with Moses Younglove whose name appears to his within affidavit and know him to be a most respectable and credible witness — With William Munson within named I am not personally acquainted but it has been proved to me by respectable and creidble men of my acquaintance that he is Surveyor of the Port of New Haven and a man of respectability & of perfect truth & veracity. I therefore certify that I am satisfied that both the said witnesses are fully entitled to credit and I now transmit the testimony of proceedings taken & had before me to the Secretary for the Department of war pursuant to the directions of the aforementioned act of congress .
Hudson November 6 1818 —
Robt. Jenkins
Mayor of Hudson
State of new York
City of Hudson
Clerks Office } ss I certify that Robert Jenkins whose name appears to the foregoing Certificate and to affidavits in said certificate referred to and hereto annexed is Mayor of the City of Hudson duly commissioned & sworn & that I have examined the signatures to the said certificate & affidavits and know them to be genuine & in the hand writing of the said Robert Jenkins. —
Witness my name & seal of the said court this 6th day of November 1818.
G. Gardner Clerk of Mayers Court
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Lathrop Allen

(14.121)
(March, 1820)

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Sent to 
A. B. Vanderpool Esqr.
Kinderhook
NY
June 26. 1820
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On the sixth Day of June 1820 Personally appeared in open Court Being a Court of Common Pleas in for the County of Columbia & State of New York Lathrop Allen late a Capt in the United States Service in the Revolutionary War with Great Britain Aged Sixty Eight years ten Months & 19 Days - A resident of [illegible] County of Columbia & hath resided in said County more than twenty years, who being first Sworn as the Law Directs doth on his oath Declare that he Served in the Revolutionary War as is set forth  viz As a Vollunteer under Capt Hezekiah Baldwin in the Regiment of Col. Van Schaick of New York as a Sergant from the time I Entered untill the latter part of Decr 1775. I was then appointed a Leutenant under Capt. Roswell Bebe in  Generl Wooster Regiment & served a Winter Campaign in Canada. On the 15th of Apr 1776 I was appointed a Captain by Doctr. B. Franklin & others who was vested with Power by Congress So to do & I was Placed in the Regiment of Col. Saml Elmore whose Regiment was commissioned by Congress. I served in that Regiment untill the 25th of Apl. 1777 at which Date the Soldiers times Expired I then apply to General Gates & General Schyler for my Discharge there Reply was as Your commission [illegible] you have to Be Discharged by this or a future Congress & that they could not Discharge me. I then Continued in the Service under the Direction of General Gates Some times with a Vollunteer Company & Some times in His Service finding My own House & Equipments & paying other Expenses to the amount of $750 which I should [illegible] this have Called for But for the loss of my Vouchers By a Bandilla of Diabollical lies. under My Commission I held myself Ready to Serve & was very often Called upon as I lived at the time in the Northern Section of the State of New York & Near the Seen of Action as will More fully appear Reference being had to the affidavits of Moses Younglove & Mayor Munson Now in the War Office & I do farther Swear that I was a Citizen of the United States on the 18th March 1818 & that I
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I Have Not since that time By Gift Sale or Any other way or Manner Disposed of My Property or Any Part thereof with Intent thereby to Diminish it so as to Bring Myself within the Provisions of the Act of Congress Intitled An Act to Provide for Certain Persons Ingaged in the land & Naval Service of the Untied states in the Revolutionary War Passed on the 18th Day of March 1818 & that I have Not Nor hath Any Person in trust for Me Any Property or Securities. Contracts or Debts Due to Me Nor Have I Any Means More or Other than those which is Contained in the Schedule hereunto Annexed & By Me Subscribed.
Lathrop Allen

Schedule or Inventory of Property

Real Estate Not Any at all
6 Chairs Much Worn 1 Cherry Table 1 Cherry Stand $1..50
1 Small Cherry Burow Something in years... 2.25
2 Old trunks 1 pr Tongs. No Shovel Nor Handirons...  75
1 Old Iron Tea Kettle 1 [illegible] Pot 1 [illegible] Spider... 1.50
2 Candle Sticks 6 Cups & Saucers Earthern..  50
1 Dayr Earthern plates 1 tea pot 3 bowls... 1.50
1 Sugar Pot 1 Milk Pot 1 Tin Coffee Pot...  38
1 Earthern Platter 1 Pewter [illegible] 6 Knives & Forks...  88
2 Earthern Pitchers. 1 Jug. 1 Tin Kettle...  50
1 Looking Glass 14 by 18 Inches 3 Glas Tumblers... 1.25
2 Decanters. 1 Hingam Box. 5 Small Tea Spoons...2.—
4 large Black tin Spoons. 1 Wooden Boole. 1. Tea Tray...  50
1 Pair Sad Irons. 1 Wash Tub. 2 Pails. 1 foot Tin Stove... 1.50
2 Baskets. An Infirm Wife 61 years Old and...  50
16. 50
No Other Person in family But Self & Wife. I am a Carpenter By trade But so full of Infirmities that I am Not Able to Work
Lathrop Allen
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Sworn to and declared on the sixth day of June 1820 —

Robert L. Livingston
one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Columbia

The opinion of the Court is that the total amount in value of the property in the annexed Schedule is Sixteen Dollars fifty cents
John J Miller
Robert L Livingston
Lawr. M Galz } Judges

I A [illegible] ham B Van Derpail Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Columbia do hereby certify that the foregoing affidavit and the schedule are truly copied from the records of the said court: and do further certify, that it is the opinion of the said court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule is Sixteen Dollars and Fifty Cents
in testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said court, on this 10th day of June 1820.
AB Vanderpail Clerk of the Court of Com. Pleas

Certifficate is Numbered
14.121
Entered in the office
Sept 10th 1819
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Albany
New York

Abigail [illegible]
widow of Lathrop Allen
who died on the 12th August 1826, of Hudson in the State of New York, who was a Lieut. [crossed out] Sergt. [illegible] nded [crossed out] Captain in [crossed out] the regt. [illegible] nded by Col Elmore in the Contin [illegible] line for 21 mos Capt
1 " Lt
2 " Serg

Inscribed on the Roll of Albany, N.Y. at the rate of 443 Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Septr 1838 and sent to [illegible] master at Hudson N [illegible]

Arrears to the 4th of Sep 38 $3324.[illegible]7
Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Mar '39 221.66

{Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the 3 [illegible]
Rec [illegible] ed by D McCurdy [illegible] A. Vol. 2, Page [illegible]

(Albany)
23 New York. 2

Abigail Allen
widow of Lathrop Al [illegible]
who died on the 12th August 18 [illegible] of Hudson in the State of New York,
who was a Sergt [crossed out] [crossed out] Lieut [crossed out] [crossed out] Captain in  [crossed out] the regt [crossed out] by Col. Elmore in the [crossed out] 
line for 21 months as Capt.
1 " " Lt.
2 " " Sergt.

Inscribed on the Roll of Albany, N.Y. at the rate of 443 Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Septr 1838, & sent to the care of the Post Master at Hudson, New York

Arrears to the 4th of Sept.  '38 $3324.97
Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Mar '39, 221.66
________
$3546.63

{Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the 3d}
Recorded by D McCurdy, Clerk,
Book A. Vol. 2. Page 103.

See letter to Mrs. Henrietta barnes, Sept. 27. 1836 
Let to Hon E. La Sore Mar 16. '46
do to Bigelow & Peugh,
(respecting copies of papers) Nov. 7. 1846 —
Papers numbered from 1 to six, copied for same Nov 20 1846
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Declaration

In order to obtain the benefit of the third section of the act of Congress of the 4th July 1836 —

State of New York
Columbia County
City of Hudson} ss. On the 20th day of April one thousand eight hundred & thirty seven personally appeared before the Justices court of the said City of Hudson in open court, the same being a court of Record Abigail Allen a resident of the said City of Hudson in the County of Columbia and State of New York aforesaid aged seventy seven years seven months and fourteen days & who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 4th 1836
That she is the widow of Lathrop Allen late of Greenbush in the County of Rensselaer and State of New York aforesaid deceased who died on or about the twelfth day of August one thousand eight hundred & twenty six. That he served as a Captain in the army of the revolution and at the time of his death he drew as a revolutionary officer for his revolutionary service the yearly pension of two hundred & forty dollars under the act of 18 March 1818.
She further declares that her maiden name was Abigail Hazard and that at the time she was married as herein mentioned she resided in that part of the town of Canaan aforesaid, with her father that was then called "New Britain"
She further declares that she was married to said Lathrop Allen by the reverend W. Troop in the fall of the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy seven & shortly after the battle of Bennington in the state of Vermont. That she was married to said Lathrop Allen a considerable time before the last period of his revolutionary services expired
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That said Troop was a Presbyterian minister & preached in a Log meeting house as stated in Weltha Ide's affidavit hereto annexed, in "New Britain" then so called in said town of Canaan —
That her oldest child was Oliver H Allen now of the City of Hudson aforesaid, who was born the 17th of January one thousand seven hundred and seventy nine & about fifteen months after her aforesaid intermarriage with said Lathrop Allen. That she this deponant remembers very well that her said husband came home from the army of the Revolution on parole and that he arrived at home at the time this deponant had a child born as stated by Weltha Ide in affidavit hereto annexed 
That Philena Hazard, whose affidavit is also hereto annexed was the sister of this deponants sd. Husband & married this deponants brother — 
This deponant further says that she has remained unmarried ever since the death of her said husband Lathrop Allen and that she now remains his widow as will more fully appear by reference to the proof hereto annexed to which she would refer, and she would also refer to her said husband's statements on file at the war office in the City of Washington in the District of Columbia.
Abigail Allen
Subscribed and Sworn before siad Court in open court}
P. Dean Carrique, Clerk,
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State of New York
Greene County} ss. Philena Hzard of the village of Catskill in the County of Green and state of New York aforesaid being duly sworn deposeth and saith that she now resides in said village of Catskill and has resided there for the space of about five months last past and immediately previous thereto she resided in the City of Hudson in the County of Columbia and state of New York aforesaid. That this deponants maiden name was Philena Allen. That this deponants Fathers name was Thomas Allen. That this deponant had a Brother whose name was Lathrop Allen who was several years older than this deponant and who was a Captain in the Revolutionary army and served in said Revolutionary war as a soldier and her said Brother at the time of his death drew a Pension from the United States as a Revolutionary soldier.
Deponant further says that she this deponant was present at the wedding of said brother Lathrop Allen and saw the Reverend W. Troop marry him to Abigail Hazard who is now living in the City of Hudson unmarried and who still remains the widow of her said Brother Lathrop Allen.
Deponant further says that her said father Thomas Allen at the time said Lathrop Allen were joined together in matrimony as above stated, resided in New Britain so called in the town of Canaan in the county of Columbia and State of New York aforesaid.
Deponant further says that the said Abigail the widow of her said deceased Brother, Lathrop Allen is the mother of Oliver H. Allen of the said City of Hudson aforesaid. Deponent further says that she does not now distinctly recollect the year in which the said Brother Lathrop Allen above named was married to said Abigail Hazard above named, but she distinctly
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recollects seeing them married, and this deponant also distinctly remembers that her said Brother Lathrop Allen served as a soldier in said Revolutionary war for a long period of tie after his said marriage & she remembers that her said brother Lathrop Allen after his aforesaid marriage left his said wife Abigail in charge of the house and farm he then possessed and he hired a man to work the farm, while said Lathrop was in the army — This deponant is now in the seventy fifth year of her age, and further deponant saith not.
her X [illegible]
Philena Hazard
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 10th day of March 1834.
Joel Bellamy Justice of peace

State of New York
Green County} ss I Joel Bellamy of Catskill in the County of Greene aforesaid do hereby certify that the above named Philena Hazard did not write her her name, from physical inability. She was unable to do so. and I do further certify that I consider the above named Philena Hazards statement entitled to credit.
Joel Bellamy Justice of peace

State of New York
Greene County ss.} I certify that Joel Bellamy Esquire before whom the foregoing affidavit was sworn, was at the date of the claim a Justice of the peace of the said county duly elected and qualified, and that his signature above written is genuine.
Witness my hand and seal of office this tenth day of March 1837.
William W.B. Heermance
Clerk of Green County

State of New York
County of Columbia
City of Hudson} ss. Oliver H. Allen of said City of Hudson
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being duly sworn deposeth and saith tha he is well acquainted with Philena Hazard named in the foregoing affidavits made by her, That she is the sister of this deponants father, Lathrop Allen deceased That said Philena formerly resided in the said City of Hudson and this deponant has been and is well acquainted with with the said Philena & has the means of knowing the character of said Philena, That said Philena has & does sustain in the said City of Hudson and where she now resides a good moral character and her statements in the opinion of this deponant is entitled to full credit.
O.H. Allen
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 20th day of April 1837.
Wheeler H Clarke
Commissioner of deeds
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1767
Abigail Allen
widow of Lathrop
N.Y.

c 1 to 6

City Hotel
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State of New York
County of Columbia}ss I Abigail Allen of Hudson county of Columbia & state of New York being duly sworn depose and say, That I am the widow of Captain Lathrop Allen late of Greenbush in the county of Rensselaer and state of New York who have heretofore applied for a Pension as the widow of said Allen under the act of congress of July 4. 1836 — My memory is somewhat impaired by age & I cannot remember so as to specify particularly. I am certain that my husband served as a captain in the Revolutionary war until about the End of it & for as many & think over 3 years after our marriage. Our second child was born before my husband left the Army I am asked where my husbands commissions are one was destroyed by a child & the other I cannot say where they are. I had a Book at one time containing the names of my husbands soldiers — That is lost — i am asked to name as many of my husbands soldiers as I can recollect, I remember he had his Brother William with him as fifer for a long time & for some time after the marriage. I remember he had after the marriage a waiter by the name of Ailsworth or Elsworth his christian name was Eseck. Eseck stole my husbands cloths & property & ran away & my husband afterwards had a servant by the name of Alderman I remember he had two soldiers by the name of Ketcham, one by the name of Goodfellow. Also Hallenbeck, Wright & Fuller—
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I do not know that any one of them are living — Samuel Doty served under my husband before my marriage. I am asked what I know of my husbands serving under Colonel Harper — I answer that I have heard my late husband frequently speak of Colonel Harper & my recollection is that my husband was under Harper at the latter part of the time he was in the service —
And further saith not.
Abigail Allen
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 29th Nov 1837.}

Wheeler H. Clarke
Commissioner of Deeds
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[illegible] 18
Comr.

A Allen
N.Y. act 36

J. L. Edwards Esqr
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
D.C
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New York City June 13th 1838

Respected
Sir,
I have just been informed from my Mother Mrs A. Allen of Hudson, that she sometime since employed a Mr. Clark of that City to obtain her pension but of late she says he calls on her to sign papers the contents of which she is not acquainted with, hence I feel confident he would not take this great pains unless it is from interested motives and to wrong my aged Mother who is not acquainted with such transactions, or with the amount of her back pension provided it is obtained.
And my mother further informs me that said Clark uses improper influence to prevent her from vissiting me on the subjects, for fear I should cause his dismissal from further interference. Understanding he is to vissit you in a few days on this matter, I as her only daughter enter my most solemn protest in your office against said Clark or any other persons, from receiving any money that may be due and coming to her as my mother is able to go to Washington and
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and receive it her self.
I will thank you to give me your views on the subject as early as convenient and oblige yours
Respectfully
Heneritta Barnes
P.S. Should you wish information as to the standing of my self and family, I refer you to Senators Grundy and Tipton and to the Hon. R. Boone of the House H. B.
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New York  July 2, 1838

To the Commissioner of Pensions at Washington

Sir

Be pleased to [illegible] to my Son in Law Francis Barnes all the papers forwarded by me as widow in my application for the pension of the late Captain Sathrop Allen and oblige his

Yours respectfully

Abigail Allen

Witness
Miriam Burney
New York
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Affidavit

For Mr. Francis Barnes
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United States of America
State of New York
City & County of New York} ss.
Samuel Whitney of said City and County of New York being by me (Hiram Barney, Notary Public, duly commissioned and sworn dwelling in the said City of New York) duly sworn, doth depose and say that he, this deponent was for many years previous to his death intimately acquainted with Captain Lathrop Allen and his wife Abigail. That this deponent was, by appointment of the said Lathrop Allen the Executor of his last will and Testament — That this deponent is familiar and well acquainted with the [crossed out] hand writing of the said Lathrop Allen – and verily believes [crossed out] the writing on the annexed paper or leaf from the Family Bible of the said Lathrop Allen, to have been written by the said Lathrop Allen's own hand —
And this deponent further says that he knows the said Abigail Allen to. be the widow of the said Capt. Lathrop Allen — And further says that he, this deponent, has often during the life time of the said Lathrop Allen, heard him state that he served as Captain, in the Army of the American Robolution with Colonel Elmore and believes he has heard him say in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Elmore and that he this deponent has also heard the said Lathrop Allen state that he served
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with Colonel Harper and he verily believes he has heard him say in the Revolutionary War, as Captain, in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Harper And further this deponent Says not
Samuel Whitney
Sworn and subscribed to before me this 18th day of August 1838 before me}
Hiram Barney
Notary Public
New York
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An account of Births And Deaths of Family
Lathrop Allen Born 18 July 1751
Abigail Allen Born 6 Sept 1759
Was Maried 23 Nov. 1777
Oliver H. Allen Born Sunday 6 oclock Morning 17 Jany 1779
Polly Allen Born 7 October 1780 Died 25 Day of the [illegible]
Lathrop Allen Junr. Born 18th July 1781 Livd 23 Days
One Dafter Born 12 June 1782 Not named Livd. 12 hour
Next Son Born 2nd June 1783 Not Named Livd 11 Days
Nixt Son still Born 2nd July 1784
Thos. Alen Born 14 July 1785 40 Minuts after five OClock in the morning Died 26 Sept. 1786
Thomas Allen 2d Born 26 August 20 Minutes After twelve OClock in the morning 1787 a Wednesda [illegible]
Dafter Born Sunday Morning 22 August 1790 half after five oclock Named Henrietta
Henry Allen Born 19 May 1793 Sunday 12 oclock Died the 20 of October following Early in the Morning
Henry Allen the 2d Born 23 July 1794 on Wednesday Morning at Six oclock
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1706
July 21

[illegible] by Nathan Thayer

By Sundries for work @ 269/h £13 9 4
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RECORD DIVISION
REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION

3—525

W17208

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., ..., 19...

In reply to your request of ..., received... for a statement of the military history of Lathrop Allen a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.

DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
May 1775 
Feb 1776 
Apr 15 1776
...
May 11, 1780

LENGTH OF SERVICE.
to Dec 1. 1775
to Apr 1776
1 yr.
2"
to end of War

RANK.
Sgt
Lieut
Captain
"
"

OFFICERS UNDER WHOME SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN. 
Hezekiah Baldwin
Roswell Beebe
...
in various corps not stated
...
COLONEL.
Goose Van Schaick
Gen Wooster
Samuel Elmore 
Lt Col John Harper

STATE.
NY.
Conn
"
...
NY

Battles engaged in, Canadian Esp Bennington, Sur of Burgoyne.- Stone Arabia
Residence of soldier at enlistment, New Britain Albany Co NY
Date of application for pension, Apr. 10 1818 His cl was al
Residence at date of application, Hudson NY-
Age at date of application born July 18, 1751, son of Thomas Allen
Remarks: Sol mar at New Britain N.Y.  Nov. 23. 1777 Abigail Hazard b Sept 6. 1759 — Hzd at Greenbush N.Y.— Aug 12, 1826. She was al pen on her ap. no. Apr. 20, 1837 while living at Hudson N.Y. Children: Oliver h. b Jan 17, 1779. Polly b. Oct [illegible] 1780. Lathrop b. June 18. 1781 lived 23 days Thos. b. July 14. 1785 d. Sept 26. 1786. Thos. B. Aug 26. 1787. Henrietta b Aug 22. 1790 mar Francis Barnes. Henry b. May 19, 1793 d. Oct 20. 1793. Henry b. July 23, 1794 & 2 unnamed infants
Respectfully,
Commissioner.
52856
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Rev WIDOW, &c.

File No. 17208
Abigail Allen wid. of Lathrop Allen Capt. Rev. War

Act: July 4. 1836
Index:—Vol. 1, Page 10

[Arrangement of 1870.]

1922. Oct. 9. Hist. to Mrs. H. J. Davis 
cad
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V1767
New York

Abigail Allen

Suspended —
Let to W.H. Clarke June 21st. 1837 — same 12 Aug 3 [illegible]
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The written papers, numbered 1 [crossed out] to six, copied Nov 20. 1846 for Bigelow & Peugh, Part.
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Brief

Send for Mr Earls Statement

Wheeler H. Clarke
Hudson
N York
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Brief statement of Mrs Abigail Allen proofs made to Entitle her to a Pension under the Act of 4th July 1836 as the widow of the late Captain Lathrop Allen late of Greenbush Renssellaer County in the State of New York deceased who was at the time of his death a Revolutionary Pensioner under the act of 1818. 
First said captain Lathrop Allen died at Greenbush 12th August 1826. This is proven by the widows statement & the returns to the Pension Department, and it is also proven that applicant is the widow of the same Captain Lathrop Allen who obtained a Pension from the war department for services which he performed in the Revolutionary War in Colonel Samuel Elmores Connecticut Continental  Regiment prior [illegible] to the month of April 1777. These services were performed by said Allen in the state of New York & Canada principally.
The above facts are clearly shown & not disputed by the Department.
Second. The marriage of said Lathrop Allen & his above named widow in the year 1777 towards the close of it is also proven. This marriage took place at Mr. Hazards, the Father of said Abigail Allen in what was then called New Britain in the County of Albany, now County of Columbia about 20 miles from the city of Albany in a south East direction. 
Third.
The applicant claims that she has proven services rendered by her said husband in the Revolutionary War subsequent to April 1777 in the continental line & subsequent to her marriage to him
Her said husband in his statements claims and testifies that he served under different continental officers about 3 years after April 1777. In testifying to this he is Entirely disinterested, because in making his first statement he had already proven a sufficient period of time to entitle him to a full Pension under the
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the act of 1818 without availing himself of any services rendered after April 1777. And in his second statement made by him he repeats the same facts and the same services— Applicant herself testifies to the services her husband performed & sates the time to be about 3 years after the marriage. In this she is corroborated by all the witnesses who [illegible] to testify toCapt. Allens services. And she is also corroborated by circumstances — The witnesses who testify & whose evidence bears upon this point are (besides the applicant) Mr. Ide, Mr. Hazard and Joseph Earl. All testify that they lived in the same neighborhood were well acquainted with the Capt & his wife & all say they remember seeing Captain Allen come from the Army to see his wife and they relate the circumstance of Captain Allen coming home the very night his second child was born which is clearly proven to have been in 1780.
That this testimony proves Captain Allen to have been in the service from 1777 to & including the year 1780 there can be no doubt. The Evidence of living witnesses coincides with Each other and the circumstances they relate all agree.
What Regiments he served in from April 1777 to May 1780 does not appear by the testimony. he himself states the names of several General officers under whom he served during the 3 years he served after April 1777, which would bring it up to April 1780 — The first statement by Mrs. Allen states 3 years upwards after the marriage which would make it 3 years & 8 months & more after April 1777. This statement was made by her & her witnesses before any witness certified that he served in the New York levies. From April 1777 to May 1780  it was not specified in what Regiments he performed his continental services but the Pay Rolls in the
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Department undoubtedly contain those services and the names mentioned (or some of them) in applicants affidavit may show that he is the same individual. Those names are William Allen, Eseck Elsworth or Ailsworth & Alderman, also Fuller, Hallenbak & Goodfellow & the two Ketchums; but as Mrs. Allen does not remember  the time when these persons served with her husband they may not come within the period from April 1777 to May 1780.
The applicant claims that her sd. husband served in Colonel John Harpers Regiment from May 11th 1780 for about 8 months under an Enlistment in the levies of the state of New York.
It is objected to the proof in this matter.
First, that because Captain Lathrop Allen did not mention this service in the New York levies in making a statement of the services he performed in the Revolutionary War in order to obtain a Pension under the Act of 1818, Therefore it is to be presumed that applicants lat husband is not the man who served in Colonel Harpers Regiment and further it is objected that if applicants husband held a captains commission under congress he could not have accepted of a commission from & under the Government of the State of New York. It is admitted that a man by the name of Lathrop Allen on the 11th May 1780 was appointed a captain in John Harpers Regiment o the State of New York & that he served under that Enlistment as appears by the Pay Rolls in the war Department 7 months & 28 days, and the only question to be settled is whether applicants husband is the same individual, because if he is, applicant is entitled to a Pension under the above mentioned act whether her said husband served from April 1777 to May1780 or not. 
Applicant denies that the fact of her said husbands
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not mentioning the services performed under from & after 11th May 1780 raises a presumption that he was not the individual , because applicants husband stated that he served 3 years after April 1777 under various continental officers and because under the act of 1818 only continental services Entitled a man to the benefits of the act and any statement of any other services would have been entirely irrelevant and no attorney in drawing the statement would have put them on paper & if they had at the time been mentioned by said Allen would not have been put in the statement & captain Allen in both of his staements gives a full relation of his continental services & no other & which according to his statement came up to April 1780.
If the services under colonel Harper have been such as would have entitled him to the benefits of the act of 1818 it is conceded that then the omision would have raised a presumption that it was some other individual but as it stands no presumption is raised whatsoever—
Again it is objected that having a commission under congress he could not have accepted a commission under the state Government. If this position is count & if this is so does it not shew that he was in active service under his first commission. Would it not be absurd to suppose that the General Government for more than 3 years kept this man idle with a captains commission in his pocket & would neither employ nor discharge him.
This kind of reasoning is very unsatisfactory & to my mind Evinces a disposition to Eavil—
This is taking the Extremest reasoning by which almost any claim might be defeated & the law be made a nulity—
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The testimony upon this branch of the subject on the part of the applicant is both positive and circumstantial.
First, Joseph Earl in his affidavits testifies that he was well acquainted with applicants husband in the Revolutionary War & Ever since that in the war he was Captain Allens neighbor.
That captain Allen, "The year of Arnolds treachery" enlisted into the New York service, that he remembers this distinctly & he calls it 9 months service. He says this was after the marriage and Captain Allens last service. The year of Arnold's Treason was in 1780. The Justice who Certifies to the said Earls character & drew the first affidavit under my derections. The second I drew myself & at the time I stated therein that this enlistment of Captain Allen was the same year of Arnold Treason I did not recollect that that Treason took place in 1780 nor did I know it until I arrived at Albany some 50 or 60 miles from said Earl, Is there then a doubt of sd. Captain Allens being in the New York service or state Troops in 1780. There certainly cannot be.
The Deputy Secretary of State of the State of New York by his certificate proves there is no Lathrop Allen in any of the Revolutionary archives in his office Except that contained in the appointment made by the Governor & Council of appointment of the State of New York 11th May 1780 in Colonel John Harpers Regiment. The State Government of the state was formed the latter part of the year 1778 or beginning of 1779 & the minutes of the council of appointment from that time to the present
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contain all all the appointments made. It therefore is proven conclusively that said Lathrop Allen appointed 11th May 1780 was applicants husband. Can it be any other person not unless Joseph Earl entirely misrecollects or has committed perjury. It is unnecessary for me me to say any thing of Joseph Earls character because the officer required by your rules has certified to his character & credibility.
I had never seen Joseph Earl before I called upon him to procure his first affidavit in this matter & then I called upon him in company with the said Justice and another person who was Entirely disinterested and the Entire interview between myself & said Earl was in the presence & hearing of said persons. W. Earl is a man in independent circumstances & consequently beyond any temptation that could be presented to him, if any person had felt disposed to do it. Besides W Earls testimony Mrs. Hazard & the applicant both testify that captain Allen applicants husband served under Colonel harper in 1780. Joel Bellamys certificate shews that Mrs Hazard understood & recollected what she was testifying to & her character is duly certified to by said Bellamy & Dr Robert G Frary.
The applicant in his last affidavit states that certain persons therein mentioned served under her husband at some time, but what time she cannot remember except that some of them served after she was married. if the pay Rolls should disclose these facts this would be conclusive upon that part of the service done prior to May 11. 1780 —
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Mrs Allens last affidavit states that in 1780 when the Mohawk country was devastated her husband was sent on Express to Albany. Her statement agrees with the facts & the history of the time, which I have seen since my arrival here in Washington & when I drew the affidavit I was not aware of the fact, & it also appears by a reference to the same History, (the History of Tryon County) that Colonel John Harper was engaged in that portion of the country at that time with the Indians & Tories —
I would mention that Joseph Earl the first time I called upon him stated that he lived in Captain Allens neighborhood & that he learned from the Captain that he had Enlisted into the New York levies & he requested Captain Allen to get him Earl a situation in the company. That Captain Allen promised him he would & afterwards when Capt Allen returned from Albany the captain told him that there was no vacancy left. Earl said
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he then went into another Regiment & went South and into the state of New Jersey & was Encamped on the Jersey Shore & that this was "the same year of Arnolds Treachery."
The foregoing contains as I believe a comit [?] statement of the proofs in this case so far as they are here recapitulated, much that is important & which goes to Establish this claim is not here stated, but in my opinion sufficient to show beyond any question that Lathrop Allen served in the continental line up to May 1780, and that he was then appointed to the command of a company of Colonel John Harpers New York Levies & that he is the same individual. And from the proofs in the matter it would be absurd to say it could be any other individual.
These views of the case are respectfully submitted. Washington D.C Dec 4. 1837
W H. Clarke appts atty
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file
Aug28

see within!
file with Abigail Allen papers

For Mr. Edwards
Pension Office

J. L. Edwards Esq.
Com. of Pensions
Washington
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The enclosed is written by the request of Mrs Allen & is signed by her —
Yours &c
W. H. Clarke

J. L. Edwards Esq
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June 26,

Relg to previous applicn for cert paps in case of Abigail Allen, for wid of Capt Lathrop —
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Washington City, D.C.
26th June 1847.

Hon Comr. Pensions,
Dear Sir
Having applied last fall for copies of certain papers from No. 1 to 6 in the case of Abigail Allen widow of Capt Lathrop Allen, We understood that they were copied on 20th Nov. last. but [illegible] [illegible] been received will the office be good enough to forward them through Mail to the undersigned,
Very Respectfully
Bigelow & Peugh
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Abigail Allen widow of Lathrop Allen
Captain 21 mo
Lieut. 1 mo
Sergt. 2 mo.
$443.33 per ann. [crossed out]
act 4 July 1836

Send Cert: to the Pensioner, care of the Postmaster Hudson N. York
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House of Rep.
March 11 1846

Will you be pleased to send me by the bearer the copies of the Evidence filed in your Bureau on which the Widow of Lathrop Allen obtained her pension to use in a case in which one of my constituents is a petitioner? 
oblige very Respy
Emile LaSore

Hon J. L. Edwards
Comr of Pensions
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Sir
In your Report to the Secy. of War in the case of the widow of the late Capt. Lathrop Allen you assert that the great number of surviving soldiers of the Continental & New York line will abundantly supply evidence of the identity of Capt Lathrop Allen in Elmores' Regiment of 1776 & Lathrop Allen in Harpers Regiment of 1780.
The enclosed Letter is from the Son in Law of said Col. John Harper, Mrs. Hotchkiss being one of his said Col. Harpers daughter — Mrs. Hotchkiss though of sufficient age to remember many things that transpired does not it seems remember any of her fathers men who are now living — Besides this I have written to several persons in different counties but have been unable to find anyone belonging to Lathrop Allens Company in Harpers Regt in 1780 — And I have now just returned from New Lebanon, New Britain & New Canaan where Allen resided in the time of the war — I found men who remember both Harper & Allen and that they went into the service together; but they themselves did not go with them. Col. Harper lived in New Lebanon before he went to Connecticut as stated in this letter Enclosed — There are three persons living who will state the facts — And whose affidavits I shall transmit to you as soon as I receive those that are to be forwarded to me in a few days. Your Pension Roll will shew whether any one of sd.
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Allens Company in Harpers Regiment in 1780 are now living — if they are I cannot see any reason for your withholding from me that fact, and their names —
If I had the names of Allens company I could find some of the men now living in this state — and if you require the affidavit of one of his men it appears to me that you can do no less harm than furnish me with the names. There is but one single chance of my committing fraud and that could be done by me as easily if I found one of his men as if you were to furnish me the man, That chance is this I might make him state falsely that Capt L Allen who served in Harpers Regt in 1780 was claimants husband &c. but you still would in all probability have in your possession his former statement which he made when he got his own Pension, in which he stated the place of his then residence when he went in Allens Company & many circumstances  by which any such imposition might be detected.
Further I would engage not to seen the man nor have any communication with him except through such agent as you should see fit to designate and put such interrogatories as you should prescribe. Under these restriction I cannot see any objection to my having a list of Allens men —
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Further, if you would give me a list of those men I could ascertain whether any of them were on the Roll & if so inform you and you might send the interrogatories to some person in whom you could confide, who might make the Enquiry — The Position of the United States toward the claimant is not that of an Antagonist It is as I conceive the duty of the Government to furnish all the information they can — that cannot be fraudulently used against them —
I cannot find any one of Capt Allens men who served under him in 1780, although you seemed to think it was so easy to do so — A compliance with the above request will I have no doubt enable me to satisfy you that the claimants husband was the man who in 1780 served in John Harpers Regiment as Captain —
In looking over a copy of his statement on file in the clerks office of this county I find he thus states his service after the 20th of April 1777 — "I then continued in the Services under the directions of "Genl. Gates sometimes with a volunteer Company and "sometimes in his service finding my own horse & equipment "& paying other expenses to the amount of $750 which I "should Ere this applyed for but for the loss of vouchers "by a Banditte of diabolical Tories"—
Is not this evidence of his service in 1780 connected with the
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other facts in the case — This statement by some means or other has escaped until now my observation & I should think it had yours — This statement it appears was made by Allen 7th June 1820. In your next examination of this matter I wish you to review this part of the statement. But my object in writing you this time is to get a List of Allens company in 1780 under John Harper.
Respectfully yours,
W. H. Clarke
Hudson June 15. 1838.

J. L. Edwards Esq.

Pension Office
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Com of Pensions
Washington

June 19
Mrs. Allen
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1767
AP24
NY
4 July '36
3d. Sec.

[crossed out]

To/S

Pension Office,

James L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington. D.C.
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Dear Sir/

Enclosed is the declaration of Mrs Allen of this city and the proofs establishing her claims to a Pension under the Act of 4th July 1836. She is entitled as you will perceive upon examining the papers to pay from the 12th day of August 1826 at $20 per month.
Your early attention to this matter is earnestly requested.
Very respectfully yours
Wheeler H. Clarke,
of Hudson in the State of New York,

April 20. 1837.

To J.L. Edwards Esq,
Comr of Pensions,

Mrs. Reynolds of this City is the widow of a Revolutionary Pensioner deceased. She sent for me to see her a few days ago. She informed me that she was the first wife of her husband
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but was not married to him until a short time after his services in the Revolutionary war. She stated that she and her husband were engaged to be married to each other before his period of services expired, but waited for him to serve his time out before they married as they considered it imprudent & impracticable to get married before he came home. That his being in the army was the reason of their not marrying sooner than they did. My reason for stating this to you is for the purpose of suggesting the propriety and the Justice there would be in Congress extending this act to the widows of Revolutionary soldiers in cases where such widows were the first wives of said soldiers and were married to them within say 3 or 5 years of the termination of the period of said Soldiers service. 
The case of Mrs Reynolds is certainly a hard one she is aged & poor & dependent on those who are unable to support her. She is as you see, just outside of the provisions of the law. You must be able to give me some advice upon this subject, Mrs Reynolds thinks Congress would direct her to be paced on the Pension list & wished me to make the application. I want your opinion as to what you think congress would do in the matter.
Will you give me your opinion.
Respectfully
W.H.C.
To J. L. Edwards Esq.
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State of New York
County of Columbia} ss. Weltha Ide of Canaan County of Columbia and State of New York widow of Ebenezer Ide deceased being sworn deposeth and saith that her maiden name was Weltha Whitman that she is now in the Seventy ninth year of her age, That she has resided in the aforesaid Town of Canaan ever since she was fourteen years of age — That she this deponant formerly knew Abigail Hazard, who resided at that time within a mile of the place where the deponant now resides and within about one mile of where this deponant then resided, That the time in which said Abigail Hazard so as above stated resided in Canaan aforesaid was about Sixty three years ago — This deponent remembers the time that the above named Abigail Hazard was  [crossed out] married by the Rev. Wm. Troop to Lathrop Allen who was at the time of the marriage an officer in the Army of the Revolution, This deponant further states upon her oath aforesaid, that the said Lathrop Allen after he was married to the said Abigail Hazard as above stated left his said wife in Canaan aforesaid & went into the Army of the Revolution — This deponant remembers that the said Lathrop Allen came home from the Army to see his wife & happened to get home the very night his wife had a child born — This circumstance she remembers perfectly well, and she remembers hearing the neighbors say that Lathrop Allen had got home at the right time that his wife was sick when he got home — That after his said Allens said wife got well this deponant recollects that said Allen returned to the Army, and that he staid at home with his wife about four weeks — And that after said Allen served his time out in the Revolutionary War she remembers of his coming home and taking his wife and moving into the East part of said town of Canaan which was about four
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or five miles from where this deponant now resides — Deponant further says that that part of the town of Canaan in which said Abigail Hazard lived before her marriage with said Lathrop Allen & immediately after said marriage was then called "New Britain" — This deponant further says that the above named Reverend Mr. Troop remained in Canaan but a short time and then removed to the north but where this deponant never knew, nor as she recollects did she ever hear where he went to, Said Troop was a Presbyterian minister & he preached in a Log meeting House which was built by persons of different persuasions and there was not then nor is there now a Presbyterian society formed in this part of said Town of Canaan. That said Log meeting House was burnt up as many as forty years ago and no meeting house of any kind has been built there since — Deponant says she does not now remember of any persons being living who then belonged to said Log Church, Said Church was used in part as a school house until it was burnt as above stated, 
This deponant says she has no knowledge of any record of said church being in existence, nor has she ever seen or heard of any record thereof —
and further this deponant saith not
her X mark
Weltha Ide
Sworn to & Subscribed before me this 17th day of April 1837.
Wheeler H. Clarke,
Commissioner of Deeds
Witness present
Dyer Ide

State of New York
County of Columbia}ss. Dyer Ide of Canaan in the County of Columbia and State of New York
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being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is in the forty eighth year of his age, that Weltha Ide who signed the foregoing affidavit is his mother who is in the seventy ninth year of her age, that he this deponant was present when his said mother swore to the said foregoing affidavit, & then testified that she had heard said affidavit read & understood its contents and that the same was true when stated of her own knowledge & when stated of the information recollection & belief it was truly stated according to such information recollection & belief, and this deponant subscribed said affidavit as witness thereto and further that his said mother never knew how to write her name,
Dyer Ide
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 17th day of April 1837.}
Wheeler H. Clarke
Commissioner of Deeds.

State of New York
Columbia County} ss I Isaac S. Gifford of Canaan in the county of Columbia and state of New York, minister of the 2d. Baptist Church in said Town of Canaan do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Weltha Ide & Dyer Ide above named in the above affidavits, that they are persons of good moral character and their statement under oath is entitled to full credit.
and further I do hereby certify that I have no knowledge or information that there ever was any church record of the church mentioned in the above affidavit of Weltha Ide —
[illegible], Isaac S Gifford
Minister of the 2d. Baptist Church in Canaan 
Sworn before me this 17th April 1837 —
Wheeler H Clarke
Commissioner of Deeds}
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Columbia County ss
I, Wheeler H. Clarke, a Commissioner of deeds in and for the County of Columbia do hereby certify that I am acquainted with the above named Isaac S. Gifford and that he is a minister of the Gospel in regular standing of the Baptist denomination in said town of Canaan. April 17. 1837
Wheeler H. Clarke
Comr. D.

State of new York
County of Columbia
City of Hudson} ss. Oliver, H, Allen of the City of  Hudson , in the County and State aforesaid, being duly sworn deposeth & saith that he, as he has been informed & believes true, was born on the seventeenth day of January one thousand seven hundred & seventy nine, at that part of Canaan in the County & State aforesaid formerly called "New Britain" That his fathers name was Lathrop Allen and his mothers name was and is Abigail Allen, whose maiden name was Abigail Hazard. That at the time of his death his said father lived in Greenbush in the County of Rensselaer & State of New York aforesaid — And at the time of his death his said father was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States and as such Revolutionary Pensioner drew and received from the United States a Pension of twenty dollars a month as having been a Captain in the Army of the Revolution, and having served therein as a Captain — That this deponants father said Captain Lathrop Allen died on or about the twelfth day of August 1826 at Greenbush aforesaid, And that shortly after his fathers death his said mother came to the City of Hudson and now resides with this deponant in the City of Hudson County and State aforesaid — That his said mother said Abigail Allen is still the widow of this deponants said father Lathrop Allen deceased and still
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remains unmarried — That his said mother never received the arrearages of his said fathers pension up to the time of his fathers death, which took place on or about the 12th day of August 1826 as above stated —
O:H: Allen
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 20th. day of April 1837}
Wheeler, H, Clarke,
Commissioner of deeds

I was personally acquainted with Oliver Allen when I resided in Hudson, and believe him to be a man of intelligence & good character.
R. I. Ruthe
State of New York
County of Columbia
City of Hudson} ss. I do hereby certify that I have known the above named Oliver, H, Allen for several years last past, he is a man of respectability in this City & of good moral character & his character for truth and veracity is good and his statement under oath is entitled to full credit.
Hudson April 20th. 1837.
Wheeler H. Clarke,
Commissioner of deeds.
State of New York
County of Columbia
City of Hudson}ss. At a court held this 20th April A.D. 1837. at Hudson, aforesaid, before the Justices of the Justices court of the City of Hudson, aforesaid, the same being a Court of Record, before which Abigail Allen the widow of the late Capt. Lathrop Allen, appeared in person and subscribed and swore to the annexed declaration by her made to obtain the benefit of the third section of the act of Congress passed July 4th 1836. it was by the said Justices holding said Court adjudged upon due consideration and examination in open court of the said Abigail Allen, and the declara
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tion by her made and the proofs hereto annexed consisting of the affidavit of Philena Hazard, Weltha Ide, Dyer Ide the Rev. Isaac S. Gifford, and of Oliver H. Allen, and the certificates annexed that said Abigail Allen is the widow of the late Capt. Lathrop Allen, late of Greenbush in the County of Rensselaer, deceased, and is now unmarried. That said Capt Lathrop Allen, drew a pension from the United States, as is set forth, in her said declaration. That said Abigail Allen was married to the said Lathrop Allen, now deceased, at the time stated in her said declaration, and before the Expiration of the last period of her said deceased husband's the said Lathrop Allen's revolutionary services expired [illegible] set forth in her said declaration
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and affixed the Seal of the said court, this twentieth day of April, 1837
P. Dean Corrigan, Clerk.

Columbia County,
Clerk's Office ss. I James Storm, clerk of the county of Columbia, do hereby certify that Wheeler H Clark Esquire before whom foregoing affidavits purports to have been sworn was on the day of the date of the same, a Commissioner of deeds in & for the said County; And further I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said commissioner and verily believe the name of the said Commissioner to the said affidavits, to be his proper hand writing and signature.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name & affixed the Seal of the said County this 20th day of April 1837.
James Storm
Clk.

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[illegible] several in this office to enable the examiner to [illegible] the declaration
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J. L. Edwards,
Com'r of Pensions,
Washington City
D.C.
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New York August 28th 1838
Sir
Enclosed I send you the Affidavits of Samuel Whitney proving the hand writing of Capt. Lathrop Allen, together with the family record, taken from the Bible, also the Affidavits Ezra Warner, Elias Williams, Elisha Gilbert, Samuel Doty, which I flatter myself will be sufficient proof, for to grant Mrs Abigail Allen her Pension which has been so long pending, I hope you will give the subject as early examination as possible, & if passed in her favor, please enclose me the Certificate together with the Power of Attorney which I left with you

Very respectfully
yours
Francis Barnes
(18th street No 27 —
New York City —

J.L. Edwards
Com, of Pensions
Washington City
D,C,
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R. Hotchkiss
Letter

[illegible]
NY June 7

R. Hotchkiss G.M.
Wheeler H. Clarke Esq
Hudson 
NY
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West Harpersfield June 6. 1838
Dr Sir 
Your favour without Date would have been answered sooner but want of Health has Presented
Mrs Hotchkiss says that she knows of no Person now Living that belonged to her Fathers Regt. I know of no Person that would be so likely to give the Information you want as Col John More of Otsego County a Cousin of Mrs H. he is a man of Attentive Memory and Resided on the Frontier During the War Col Harper Removed his Family to Connecticut in the year 1780 after which time my wife had no knowledge of his Military Concerns Col More has I understand sold where he now lives but Presume he has not yet Removed
I am Sir most Respectfully
Your R Hotchkiss
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J.L. Edwards Esqr,
Comm, of Pensions
Washington City
D,C,
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New York Sept, 24th, 1838
Sir,
I have been informed that A Mr Clarke of Hudson has been interfering with my Mothers Pension, by writing a letter to you which he induced her to sign, by telling her she could not obtain her Pension without signing that letter the contents of which she tells me, she did not know the nature of — My Mother has spent the Summer with me & I have in part supported her since the death of my Father [crossed out]
The reason why Clarke is so officious in the matter – he wished the certificate sent to him — he knows he can [illegible] her, so he can get the most of it himself — if on reexamining my Mothers papers you will find sufficient proof to grant her certificate I beg it as a favor that you will so far interest yourself in the cause of justice as to consider Mr Barnes her sole Agent, in this business — to enclose the certificate to him & no one else — If it is necessary — I can prove by respectable witnesses that it is my Mothers wish that Mr Barnes shall act for her agreeable to the Power she has invested him with — which you have on file in your office, Clarke is my enemy because I have interested myself to prevent him from cheating my Mother — he is doing all he can to turn my Mother against me & has  intercepted letters I have sent her to prevent all correspondence between us — I do not think Mr Clarke a proper person to have the charge of such claims, he has stated he can obtain witnesses at any time to suit his purpose — My Mother is now eighty years of age & quite in her Dotage & [illegible]. I feel it my duty to see justice done her if possible — she does not want for anything to make her Comfortable. & I would prefer having the money remain in the hands of Government than to go for the benefit of Pettifoggers, this I am willing  — that Mr Clarke should be paid a reasonable sum for his trouble — you will oblige me, by answering this & inform me how the matter now stands & your views on the subject, being Respectfully Yours Henrietta Barnes
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PS —
The enclosed letters will shew that Mr Clarke considered Mr Barnes sole Agent for my Mother
HB
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Sir. Enclosed you will find copies of affidavits of A. Jackson and Oliver Parish, which shows clearly, that Lathrop Allen did serve in the Army of the Revolutionary War, until the close of the same. These are accompanied with the report and bill, made by the [illegible] on Revolutionary [illegible] in favor of the real representatives of Lathrop Allen, giving to them his [illegible] The bill  has passed the House of Representatives [illegible] [illegible] [illegible] [illegible] and has now passed the Committee in the [illegible] These additional proofs furnished to you in relation to Abigal Allens application for a pension, this will be sufficient to put all doubts [illegible] rest as [illegible] the Justice of her claim. You will please give them as early an examination as possible and inform me through the Post Office Respectfully Your Obdt (obligated) Servant F. Barnes To James L. Edwards Commissionner of pensions (bracket)
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Sept 5.

Adolpiff [?]
Abigail Allen,

Pension Office
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner Pens [illegible]
Washington D.C.
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Hudson Sept. 2nd 1837.

J.L. Edwards Eq.

Dr Sir/   Since my return from your city I have been into the County of Montgomery & called upon W.  Sammons, who I was informed, was a man who would be as likely as any one to know whether any of the officers of Colonel Harpers Regiment was still living — Mr. Sammons says he does not know of any one belonging to that Regiment living I have now before me a list of all the commissioned officers of that Regiment before me & the Pension List Roll of the state of New York & I cannot find anyone of the names in that Roll Except Captain Lathrop Allen.
Enclosed I send you the affts of Mrs Hazard and Joseph Earl & the certificate of the Depy. Secretary of State.  The evidence they contain must I think be considered by you conclusive upon the subject.
I called upon Mrs Hazard & asked her if she remembered the names of any of the Colonels her Brother Lathrop served under She answered she did & then stated that the first was Elmore & the last was Harper. I asked her when he served under Harper & she answered at the time his second child was born.
Mr. Earl did not remember any of the names of the Colonels. I asked if he remembered the time Allen Enlisted when he Earl talked of going with him. He said he did not remember dates but it was about the same time he Earl went
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down the Hudson River & went into the State of New Jersey and that it was the same year of Arnolds Treachery —
Independent of positive proofs in this matter we have circumstances which places [?] the question as I think beyond a doubt. In the first place Lathrop Allen served under Colonel Harper, now if it was not this Mrs Allens husband who was he & where did he come from He must have been in service before this period or he would not have been promoted to the office of Captain at first. Mrs Abigail Allens husband had been in command before that in the rank of Captain. Now is there more than one name of that description in the 9 months service Mr Campbells certificate answers that part of the subject.
in conclusion I would say that I conceive it impossible to procure any more evidence upon the subject. Mrs. Allen can & is will to testify that her husband as she has frequently heard him say served under Col Harper in 1780 and upon me shewing her the list of the officers in the Regiment she said she remembered several of their names and pointed them out to me —
I did not consider it material to draw her deposition again and therefore omitted it.
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I drew Mrs Hazards afft myself & then called upon Mt Bellamy to examine her, separate from every person & satisfy himself about it & draw the certificate as her should see fit. And no part of said certificate was from my suggestion or dictation & I did not see it until it was all made & signed by him. Mr Bellamy is a man passed the middle age & has filled many important offices in the County of Greene for his character I would refer you to the Hon Zadock Pratt now in your city & a representative of Mt Bellamys District.
 I have no acquaintance with Mr Pratt but Mr Bellamy has one of long standing.
Your attention to this subject is earnestly requested upon receiving this without any delay. 
Respectfully your
Wheeler H. Clarke
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The certificate must be sent to Mrs Abigail Allen for whom it is intended. & the proper course would be to send it to the Post Master at Hudson with a request that he place it in her possession
S. Cross
[illegible]

M999.
to be sent to Mrs [illegible] Allen [illegible] Commissioner requires proof of the identity of the Claimant appears but reasonable and with no doubt Mr Clarke will [illegible] 
WH Clarke
Hudson
N.York

No 1. & 2.
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War Department
Pension Office
December 28, 1837.
Sir,
In obedience to your order I have the honor ro report upon the case of Mrs Abigail Allen, widow of Captain Lathrop Allen, deceased to which the written argument of W. Clarke, transmitted by the Hon R. McClellan, refers.
Lathrop Allen applied for a pension under the Act of 18 March, 1818, and proved service as a Captain in Colonel Elmore's regiment, from April, 1776, to April, 1777. His marriage with the claimant took place in December, 1777, and it therefore becomes indispensable to the establishment of her claim, that a subsequent service should be specially stated and proved agreeably to the rules. In his own papers he stated the twelve months' service under a commission which must have differed from the other commissions of the Connecticut Line, issued before the Declaration of Independence, if it was not limited to one year. And said, generally, that he served over three years under various Continental Officers. The claimant asserts, substantially, that he was in service at the time of his marriage, December 1777, and continued in
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service until 1781: the last term as a Captain in the New York State Troops. Of this term a certificate from the archives of New York shewing that Lathrop Allen was commissioned a Captain in Harper's regiment of nine months' men in 1780 is adduced as proof. This is a summary of the facts.
If, as he stated in 1818, and as his widow now states, he was a Captain in the continental service for the years after April, 1777, it is most extraordinary that such service cannot be traced upon the rolls, and it is moreover believed that any service he rendered after April, 1777 must have been under a new commission, as those of the fore part of 1776 were very generally, if not universally limited to one year. But this is not the ground of difficulty, although the Department might with propriety require the general allegation of three years' service (of which there are rolls) to be specified as the rules require — so as to enable the Department to trace it, and to ascertain whether it was a faithful and honorable service.
It has been required that satisfactory evidence be adduced to shew that the late husband of the claimant was the identical Lathrop Allen
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Captain of Colonel Elmore's regiment of the Connecticut Line in 1776, and Lathrop Allen Captain of Col. Harper's regiment of the New York State Troops in 1780. This requisition was made of W. Clarke as late as the 8th instant, and no such evidence is adduced. The argument of W. Clarke does not afford the required proof (which the great number of surviving soldiers of the Connecticut and New York service can abundantly supply) that the same Captain served in the Line of the one and the State troops of the other.
The papers in the case, with W. Clark's letter, and the Hon. R. McClellan's letter, are herewith enclosed —
I have the honor to be,
very respectfully,
your obt. sevt.
J. L. Edwards

Hon. J. R. Poinsett,
Secy of War.}
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Archibald Jackson
Affidavit
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District of Columbia
Washington County}
On this Eighteenth day of January AD 1833 before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid personally appears Archibald Jackson of the City of Hudson in the State of New York and makes oath on the Holy Evangely of Almighty God that he was a Lieutenant in Col. Topham's regiment in the Rhode Island line of the Revolutionary Army in 1779 and 1780 — that he was personally acquainted with Lathrop Allen who was a Captain in the said Revolutionary War until the peace of 1783 — that the said Allen was an active and efficient officer but this deponent cannot say in what line he served, as he acted a part of the time as a Supernumerary officer but always understood and believes that said Allen served under Genls Stark and Gates, and can positively state that he said Allen did continue in the service in his rank until the close of the revolutionary war in 1783. This deponent further states that he knew said Allen in Canaan near Hudson in New York from 1781 to 1783. that the families of both this deponent and said Allen resided in said Canaan and this deponent was always in the habit od seeing said Allen, when he returned from the Army and can justly state that said Allen resided in Hudson from 1783 until the year before he died being in the year 1826. 
Sworn to before me B M Morell JP this 18th day of January 1833
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I hereby certify that I have been many years acquainted with the deponent Archibald Jackson named in the subjoined and foregoing deposition and have. no hesitation in saying that I consider his statement entitled to full credit
January 21st 1833.
John King

Department of War
Bounty Land Office
February 7th 1833
I certify that the foregoing Deposition of Archibald Jackson, & certificate signed "John King" are true copies taken from the originals now on file in this office
(signed) Wm. Gordon First Clerk

The foregoing is truly copied from copies of papers on file in this office except the certificate of William Gordon which is original
Asbury Dickins
Secretary Senate U.S.
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I Oliver Parish of the Town of Plattsburg in the state of New York being duly sworn, do depose and say, that I was a soldier in the revolutionary war, and entered the service in March 1777 under Col. Rodger Ennis —While in the service I was acquainted with Captain Lathrop Allen who served both under General Gates & General Starke, and according to the best of my belief was present at the battle of Bennington. I know Captain Allen was a meritorious and valuable office, and that according to the best of my knowledge & belief he served during the whole war. This is my decided impression & I have no doubt of the fact.
(signed) Oliver Parish

District of Columbia
Washington County ss} On this first day of May AD 1832 before me the subscriber a Justice of the peace in & for the said County the above named Oliver Parish personally appeared & made oath in due form of law that the facts contained in the annexed deposition subscribed to in my presence are just & true to the best of his knowledge & belief
Sworn before me
Jeremiah Etkins J.P.
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The foregoing is truly copied from the original paper on file in this office
Asbury Dickins
Secretary Senate U.S.
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Abigail Allen

Oct 24
To/
Pension Office

J.L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
D.C.
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Hudson NY Oct 21. 1837.

Dear Sir/.
Several weeks have elapsed since I transmitted to your Department the additional evidence in the case of Mrs. Abigail Allen widow of the late Capt Lathrop Allen. For several reasons we supposed the Department would attend to it as soon as rc.d Mrs. Allen feels somewhat impatient about it and from the time which has now elapsed I thought myself justified in asking your immediate attention to it. We are unable to find any more testimony, besides we cannot think any more can possibly be asked. Mrs Allen says she will add her testimony if you require it. Have the goodness to let us hear from you.
Very respectfully yours
W.H. Clarke

JL Edwards Esq.
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Francis Barnes Esq.

No. 29. 18th [illegible]
New York
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Sir
Enclosed are the affidavits of Saml Doty Ezra Warner, Elias Williams & Joseph Earl & Elisha Gilbert. 
I Samuel Doty has before made affidavit in Mrs Allens application. Her served under Capt Allen up to April 1777 & this affidavit only states that Capt Allen served after that period & in the enclosed afft he is particular in stating that the Capt Lathrop Allen under whom he served in Elmores Regiment is the same man who married Abigail Hazard — Other witnesses state that the man who served in Harpers Regiment is the same man who married Abigail Hazard.
Elias Williams says he saw Capt Allen when he had been to Albany & home & was on his way back to Fort Stanwix. This agrees with Williams statement now with the Comr. of Pensions. Mr. Williams is positive & circumstantial in his statement —
Elisha Gilbert & Ezra Warner swear to the fact that Capt Allen was in Harpers Regt. They both say they knew Allen & Harper & that Harper lived in New Lebanon I saw Mr Gilbert yesterday he says he cannot be mistaken about Harper living in New Lebanon but that he staid but
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a short time & went to Connecticut. He says that he was then well acquainted with Col. Harper & that he knew said Harper afterwards & after the war many times & had business with him
Mr [illegible] Butter adds his certificate to [illegible] he is a judge of this County. & is Benj. F. Butters (the Atty Genls) father.
My best wishes [illegible]
In haste Respy yours
Wheeler H. Clarke
Augt 21 1838.

F Barnes, Esq

I returned from New Lebanon this morning —
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Wheeler H. Clarke Esq.
Hudson
N.Y.
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Secretary's Office
Albany Aug. 16. 1837
Sir,
Your letter of the 14th. inst. was received this morning. In the minutes of the Council of Appointment as well as in the Index to it, the name "Lathrop Allen" is written as plain as can be, and therefore I cannot certify it in any other way than I have done already — At the same time I have no doubt at all but Lothrop and Lathrop means the same name and am very much surprised that any objection should be made to it at the Pension Office on account of such a slight difference If Lathrop were the Surname instead of the Christian name there might be some little reason for hesitating, but as it is I cannot see any reason for it at all.
Yours Respectfully
Arch.d Campbell
Dep. Secretary

Wheeler H. Clarke Esq.
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25th CONGRESS,
2d SESSION.
H. R. 149.
DECEMBER 22, 1837.
Read twice, and committed to a Committee of the Whole House tomorrow.
Mr. UNDERWOOD, from the Committee on Revolutionary Claims,
reported the following bill:
A BILL
For the relief of the legal representatives of Lathrop Allen,
deceased.
1  Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives
2 of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That
3 the proper accounting officers of the Treasury be, and they
4 are hereby, required to settle the account of Lathrop Allen,
5 deceased, and allow to his legal representatives five years' full
6 pay as a captain in the service of the United States on continental
7 establishment ; which five years' full pay is the com -
8 mutation of his half pay for life ; with such interest thereon
9 as would have been payable to the said Lathrop Allen if a
10 certificate had been given him for the amount of the said com-
11 mutation, and the same had by him been subscribed to the
12 funded debt of the United States, under the act of August
13 fourth, one thousand seven hundred and ninety : to be paid to
14 the legal representatives of the said Lathrop Allen, deceased,
15 out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated.
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25th CONGRESS,
2d Session.
[Rep. No. 131.]
Ho. OF REPS.

LATHROP ALLEN -- REPRESENTATIVES OF
[To accompany bill H. R. No. 149.]
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DECEMBER 22, 1837.
Adopted by the committee, and ordered to be reprinted.
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JANUARY 13, 1887.
Mr. UNDERWOOD, from the Committee on Revolutionary Claims, made
the following
REPORT:
The Committee on Revolutionary Claims, to which was referred the petition 
of Henrietta Barnes, report:

This case was reported on by the Committee on Revolutionary Claims
during the last session, to which report reference is now made. The committee
still think the claim should be allowed, and to that end report a bill.
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JANUARY 19, 1836.
The Committee on Revolutionary Claims, to which was referred the petition 
of Henrietta Barnes, report:
That a favorable report was made from the committee on this case in
1832, accompanied by a bill allowing to the legal representatives of Captain 
Lathrop Allen the commutation of five years' full pay, in lieu of half
pay for life, for his services as captain on continental establishment. It
appears, from the testimony, that Lathrop Allen entered into the service
of the United States in May, 1775 ; that he was a sergeant in Captain
Baldwin's company, in a regiment commanded by G. Van Schaick, and
served as such in the expedition against Canada, until the expiration of his
enlistment; that in December, 1775, at Montreal, in Canada, he was appointed
a lieutenant in the company of Captain Roswell Beebe. -- In February, 1776, he received from the Committee of Congress the appointment 
of a captain in a regiment commanded by Colonel Samuel Elmore; and we
afterwards received a commission as captain, dated April 15, 1776. The regiment was raised for one year, and in April, 1777, the men so enlisted were discharged at Albany. Captain Allen, in a deposition made on
the 6th November, 1818, states that on the dissolution of his regiment,
and not being appointed in the new regiments raising to serve for three
years, or during the war, he applied to General Gates, then commanding
at Albany, to know whether he was discharged from the service; who replied
in the negative, and that, as his commission was during the pleasure
Thomas Allen, print.
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2
Rep. No. 131.
of Congress, it was probable that he would soon be appointed to his rank
in another corps. Captain Allen continued afterwards in the service, and
was engaged in the battle of Bennington, and at Saratoga, in the capture
of General Burgoyne. In the aforesaid deposition, after relating his services
previous to his application to General Gates, he states, in this
view, and holding himself ready, he was variously employed by General
Gates in sundry services, and by other continental officers, and particularly
under General Stark, at the battle of Bennington, and under General
Gates, at the capture of Burgoyne; in all, he thinks he was in the continental
service about three years, if not more." The question is here
raised, whether this statement should be considered a material and fatal
discrepance with the depositions of other credible witnesses, who testify
that Captain Lathrop Allen continued in service till the end of the war.
This part of the deposition of Captain Allen seems to refer to the actual
service performed after Colonel Elmore's regiment was disbanded, which
it was necessary to state in specific terms, to enable him to obtain a pension
under the act of March 18, 1818. His service as captain in Elmore's
regiment was previously stated in precise terms, and his expression above
quoted is not necessarily construed to include all his services from the beginning. The infirmity of Captain Allen at the time of making said declaration, 
(being sixty six years of age,) is proven by the affidavit of Moses 
Younglove, who knew Captain Lathrop Allen in Elmore's regiment, and
was surgeon's mate. When the object of this declaration, and the probability
of an inadvertence of the person who drew it up, are considered, it
cannot be viewed as derogating from the weight to be attached to the testimony
of Abigail Allen, the widow of Captain Allen; or of Lieutenant
Archibald Jackson, who states positively that Captain Allen continued in
the service, in his rank as captain, until the close of the revolutionary war
in 1783, which is corroborated by the statements of Oliver Parrish and
John Folerd, both soldiers of the Revolution. It is not probable that Captain
Allen held an inferior rank to that designated in his commission,
which continued in force after Colonel Elmore's regiment was disbanded.
The committee believe that Captain Allen was entitled to be considered as a
supernumerary officer, and, as such, to the commutation granted by
the resolution of March 22, 1783. A bill is therefore reported for the relief
of his legal representatives.
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NY
Francis Barnes
No 29. 18th St.
New York
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Hudson Augst. 4. 1838
Sir,
I have written you informing you that I consider it necessary to go to New Lebanon myself.
The reason I will explain to you as soon as I see you which I think you will approve. I meant to have [illegible] this but my business would not allow of my absence — I think that writing to Hartford will do no good. I wish Mr. Barnes had gone on himself. Has Mr. Barnes made the enquiries in New York as I requested. I will try to bring the affidavits you expect from me by the middle of Next week if possible. I am trying to get information in another quarter but cannot tell how it will succeed — Unless you have more information than I am aware of I cannot see what good it will do to send them. You say you have delayed sending the papers you now have &c. When I was at New York you had no papers except the old family Record which so far as that branch of the subject is concerned is important. I think I have ascertained something which may be important but want a little time to follow it up & see what there is of it. You may count upon my exertions in this business as much as if I had the entire control of it. I will help obtain the Pension & then so far as regards the disposal of it after I am paid I have nothing to say
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I write this immediately on return of mail as I recd it this morning & cannot account for my not receiving it before.
Respectfully yours
W. H. Clarke.

F. Barnes Esq
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Washington D.C.
October 30th 1846
Honr. J. L. Edwards,
Sir
In the month of August 1845 We waited on you with Mrs Francis Barnes of New Orleans, one of the Heirs of Capt. Lathrop Allen, late of the state of New York, and respectfully asked for copies of the papers filed by Mrs Abigail Allen in evidence of her Claim to a pension and on which a pension was granted to her as the widow of the said Capt Lathrop Allen:— intending to use them in another Claim of the Heirs now before Congress.— We were informed by you that the papers in question would be promptly furnished on a call of the Committee of Congress
Such a call was made on you during the last Session, to which you replied that the copies could not be made ready before the close of the Session of Congress — thus loosing the action of Congress the last Session, & being desirous of being prepared for the ensuing one; one of us waited upon you lately and asked the privilege of serving the papers intending to designate such as were deemed essential to the present Claim and thus lessen as far as might be the immense
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labors of your office in copying any which might be important
We think you must have misunderstood our object or you would not have refused us access to the papers in question
Another Session of Congress approaches and we are very desirous of placing the papers referred to, before the Committee early in the Session. 
We beg leave therefore most respectfully to ask, whether as the Agents of the Business (whose authority we have exhibited to you) if we can have the copies in question or not?
Wishing to give you the least possible inconvenience we are
Very Respectfully
Your Obt Servts,
Bigelow & Peugh
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Sir.
It is my wish that whenever you shall see fit to grant my Pension that you would send the certificate to me at Hudson & to no one else. Mr. Clarke of this city was my agent & still will act as my agent in assisting in procuring evidence to obtain my Pension, if the evidence already obtained should not be deemed sufficient. 
Mr. Barnes my son in law is about going to Washington & being more convenient for him to attend to it, he will attend to it there, but this certificate I wish to be sent directly to me at Hudson, if your rules require that you should send it to my agent you may send it to Mr. Clarke. I wish however that it should be sent directly to me.
Respectfully yours
Abigail Allen

J.L. Edwards Esq

Hudson Augt 22nd 1838.
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State of New York
Greene County} ss. Philena Hazard of the village of Catskill in the County of Greene and State of New York aged in May last past seventy five years being duly sworn deposeth and saith that her maiden name was Philena Allen and the sister of the late Captain Lathrop Allen late of Greenbush in the County of Rensselaer and State of New York deceased — who in his life time was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States — That this deponant was married to Joshua Hazard who is now deceased in the year 1781. This deponents oldest child is now living & is in this present month Fifty five years of age, and was born about seven months from the date of her marriage. This deponant was present at the wedding of her said brother Lathrop Allen to Abigail Hazard, who now resides in the City of Hudson County of Columbia in this state and the mother of Oliver H. Allen of said City of Hudson, and who is the widow of her said Brother Lathrop. This deponant does not recollect the day nor month with precision when the marriage took place, but upon reflection she does remember that it was in the year 1777 in the fall of the year and very cold weather when it took place and she can say with certainty that it was before
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the first day of January. 1778. This deponent recollects when the above named Oliver H. Allen was born and that it was in the month of January a little over one year from the marriage of said Lathrop & Abigail — This deponent also recollects the time of the Birth of her brothers second child which was a daughter. And she recollects that her brother came home from the army on the Evening of its birth. This deponant was then a single woman and staid at her Brothers & nursed it until the child died which was in about one fortnight — This deponant recollects that her Brother went into the army after the Birth of said second child —

her X mark
Philena Hazard

Sworn to and subscribed before me this 15th Day of August 1837.
Joel Bellamy
Justice of Peace

State of New York
Green County ss} I Joel Bellamy of the village of Catskill in the County of Green & State of aforesaid do hereby certify that I am acquainted with Philena Hazard above named & that she is a person of good moral character & that her statement above made is intitled to full credit & that she was unable to write her name from bodily infirmity. Done at Catskill this 15 day of August 1837. 
Joel Bellamy Justice of Peace
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State of New York
Greene County ss.
I certify that Joel Bellamy Esq. before whom the the foregoing affidavit was sworn & who subscribed the certificate thereunder written was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace of said county duly elected and qualified & that his signature thereto is genuine.
Witness my hand & the seal of the said County this 13th day of August 1837.
William T.B Hermance Clk

I Robert G Frary residing in the City of Hudson do certify that I have been acquainted with Mrs Philena Hazard above named, for several years last past, and have frequently been called upon to attend her professionally. She is a very worthy Woman and has ever sustained an excellent character, since my acquaintance with her. I am also acquainted with those who have known her through life, and they were ever ready to give her a good name — I have no hesitation in believing her statement in the above affidavit to be entirely correct
Robert G Frary M.D.
State of New York
Columbia County ss. On this 21st day of August
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1837 personally appeared before me Robert G. Frary who in my presence signed the foregoing certificate and made oath in due form of law to the truth thereof before me.
Wheeler H. Clarke
Comr of deeds
Columbia ss. I do certify that Robert G. Frary above named is one of the most respectable men in this section of the COunty. August 21. 1837.
W. H. Clarke
Comr of deeds.
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State of New York
County of Columbia} ss. Abigail Allen, widow of the late Captain Lathrop Allen late of Greenbush in the County of Rensselaer & State of New York & late a Pensioner of the United States, deceased being duly sworn deposeth and saith that her oldest child Oliver H. Allen of Hudson in the County of Columbia was born in the month of January 1779 That her next child was born in the month of September 1780 was a daughter and lived about a fortnight. Philena the sister of said Lathrop was then a young woman unmarried & took care of the child until it died as she states in her affidavit & it was at the birth of this child that her said husband came home the Evening it was born as stated by Mrs. Hazard in her affidavit hereto annexed and in the affidavit of Mr Ide heretofore in this matter made & forwarded to your Department. Deponant further says that the Receipt Book delivered by this deponant to Wheeler H. Clarke was her husbands receipt book an the receipts therein marked in my presence by said Wheeler. H. Clarke are in the hand writing of my said husband –
abigail allen
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 21 August 1837 —
Wheeler H. Clarke
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Columbia ss. I am acquainted with Abigail Allen above named. She is a person of good moral character & her statement above mad [illegible] is entitled to credit. Hudson August 21 1837.
Wheeler H. Clarke
Com. of deeds

State of New York
Columbia County} ss. I James Storm, Clerk of the said County do certify that Wheeler H. Clarke before whom the foregoing affidavits of  Robert G. Frary & Abigail Allen were sworn was at the date of the same a Commissioner of deeds in & for said County duly appointed & qualified & that his signature to said affidavit & the certificates made by him are his genuine signatures.
Witness my hand & the seal of said County this 22nd day of August AD 1837.
James Storm 
CLK
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I Wheeler H. Clarke of Hudson county of Columbia and state of New York, being duly sworn do depose & say that I drew the above or foregoing affidavit of Philena Hazard That he upon calling upon sd Philena informed her that he had come for the purpose of ascertaining more particularly the time of her said Brother Lathrop Allens marriage, and first enquired her age I secondly enquired the time of her marriage and the age of her oldest child, to which she answered as stated in her sd. affidavit. I asked her when her said Brother Lathrop Allen She said she could not tell the day or month. I then asked her if she could tell the year & requested her to reflect & calculate, She then said she was married in 1781. That the year  before her brother Lathrops second child was born & died, That Oliver H. Allen was born in January 1779 & that he was born a little over one year after her said Brother Lathrops marriage. That she remembers
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that she took cold the night of her brothers marriage was very sick and had the small Pox & this she said was in January 1778. These calculations & conclusions she came to were without my assistance or suggestion and were put down by me as stated by her.
Wheeler H. Clarke
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 26 day of August 1837.
John N. Maulden
Justice of the Peace
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Abigail Allen
widow of Lathrop
N.Y.

W.H. Clarke
Prest
Dec 5.
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STATE OF NEW-YORK,
Columbia County, } ss.
I, Joseph D. Monell, Clerk of the County of Columbia, DO HEREBY CERTIFY, That Wheeler H. Clarke whose name is subscribed to the Certificate of the Proof or acknowledgement of the annexed affidavits and thereon written, was, at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment, a Commissioner of Deeds for the County aforesaid, dwelling in the said County, and duly authorised to take the same. And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of such Commissioner, and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate, is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said County, the 30th day of November 1837.
James Storm Clerk
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State of New York
County of Columbia} ss. Samuel Doty of the town of Ghent in the county of Columbia and state of New York aforesaid, aged in the month of June next Eighty two years who being of duly sworn deposeth and saith— That he is a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States under the act of 1818— That this deponant served with Lathrop Allen the late husband of Mrs. Abigail Allen of Hudson in the county aforesaid, the mother of Oliver H. Allen of said City of Hudson, in the Revolutionary War for about two years ending in the Spring of the year 1777— my first tour with said Allen was in 1775 under Captain Hezekiah Baldwin, Nathaniel Rowley & Roswell Berke were first and second Lieutenants. We went to Lake George. Goose Van Schaick was Colonel. Lathrop Allen was with said Baldwins company & was orderly Seargent in said company as I believe
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I am pretty certain he was orderly Sargeant
we served about 9 months under this
Enlistment. We wintered in Montreal
Canada Allen was with. This winter
we were in Leicester Brigade-- Said Lathrop
Allen afterwards was promoted to a Lieutenancy
and afterwards on the death of
Captain Roswell Babe he was captain
of a company & this deponent served
under him while he was captain - about
as this deponent thinks 12 months.
Elmore was colonel of the Regiment-
This deponent served with & under said
Allen from August 1777 to about April
1777. This deponent did not serve under
Allen after April 1777. John Waterman was said
Allen's ensign under Elmore as this deponent
thinks said Allen's Brother William Allen
was Fifer to the company who is now
dead - Johnathan Davenport was first
Lieutenant as I think-
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said Lathrop Allen in the time of the Revolution
was lived in what was then called New
Britain in the then County of Albany now County
of Columbia aforesaid. I do not know of
any one of said Allen's Soldiers except myself
living. This deponent after the year 1777
resided from when said Allen did about
4 or 5 miles. Deponent knew said
Abigail Allen before she was married to
Captain Lathrop Allen & has known her ever
since. this deponent does not of his own
knowledge know that said Allen was in the
service after he left him except his information
as hearsay. He at the time & since has heard
that said Allen continued in the service
of the United States during the Revolutionary War
& this deponent has no doubt the 
said Allen served through the whole
Revolutionary war. when this deponent called upon said Allen to prove this deponents services in conversation
with this deponent the said Allen related to this deponent
the services he had performed in the Revolution
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-ary war. He said that he had been fighting the Indians on the Mohawk + in Schoharie in the State of New York. The services of which he spoke in this conversation were those performed by him after this deponent left him in 1777.
Further this deponent saith not.
Samuel Doty [signature]
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 28th November 1837.
Wheeler H. Clarke
Commissioner of Deeds

State of New York
County of Columbia ⎬ SS I. Wheeler H. Clarke a commissioner of Deeds in and for said County do hereby certify that I am & have been acquainted with the above named Samuel Doty for more the Fifteen years last past. He is a man of good moral character & his statement is entitled to credit-
Wheeler H. Clarke
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State of New York 
County of Columbine⎬ SS. I, Abigail Allen, widow
ty of Columbia of the late Captain Lathrop
Allen late of Greenbush in the County of Rensselaer
in the State of New York, do further in addition to what
I have heretofore stated for the purpose of obtaining
a Pension under the act of 4th July 1836, state that
I reside in Hudson in Columbia County I still
remain said Lathrop Allen's widow - at the time
I married Lathrop Allen in 1777 he was then in active
service as a captain in the Revolutionary war & had been
before that time. In the year 1775, as she has been
informed & believes he was under Captain Hizekiah Baldwin
& was then an orderly Seargeant & afterwards he was under
Captain Roswell Beebe in Colonel Samuel Elmore's
Regiment & upon Captain Beebe's death he was made
captain. This took place before I married him.
After my marriage with Captain Lathrop Allen he
still continued in the service & as I have ever
supposed under his first enlistment up to 1780
the time he enlisted into Colonel Harper's Regiment
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Before I was married to Mr Allen & while he was
visiting me it was expressly understood that he was a
going to continue in the Army - who his-
Colonel was at this time I cannot pay nor do I remember
any of his officers names with sufficient certainty to
testify to them. I remember his brother William
Allen was his fifer for a considerable time-
I remember he had a soldier or waiter at one
time whose name was Esock Elsworth or
Ailsworth & that he after remaining with my
husband for some time stole from him & then
ran away from him & at another time my
husband had a servant whose name was
Alderman, the exact time when these persons
were with him I cannot now say, but he
had them both while I was married to him
said Alderman I think was the one he had
after he had Elsworth. How long William
Allen his Brother remained his fifer I cannot
say though I remember he remained with
him after our marriage. I remember of seeing
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his Brother William when he came from the army
I was sick & he said William came into my bed
room & I asked him why he had his club of
have cut off he answered that he had been
lucky in not losing his neck, he said he had
had it shot off in Battle. My husband was
in many engagements as I have heard him
say & was not wounded but once which was
after I married him. He had a piece of flesh
shot off of his right cheek which left a
scar there to the time of his death. This was an
Engagement with the Indians on the Mohawk. the
year I cannot remember. I remember of hearing
my husband say he went once to Rhode Island
with a man by the name of Spencer, what
office said Spencer held I cannot say & what year
it was I do not remember. I think this was
before the marriage. my husbands services
after I married him were performed in the
State of New York & mostly along on the
Mohawk in Schoharie, Fort Plank
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as I think one was called. At the German Flats
I heard my husband say + I think the fact at
the time, that at a time when the Indians
were devastating the Mohawk Country that
my husband was sent an Express to Albany
with letters & he was ordered to destroy the letters
in case he was taken. This was about the time
when I had my second child which was in
the year 1780 - I am unable to recollect the
names of the different officers under whom my husband served with few exceptions. I remember
the name of Colonel Harper, Colonel Elmore
Genl Schuyler. Gates, Putman, and Herkimer
I remember hearing my husband frequently speak of
being where Genl Putman was & I have frequently
seen my husband initial Putman's names
and use his bye words one was "God cuss you"
& lisping it in the same manner that he did.
I am aged & my memory is not so good as it has
been & I find it difficult to recollect names
I cannot say what has become of the Commissions my husband had Except I have heard him
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say that a child distroyed one-- we have
moved about the country a considerable
since he left the Army. We have lived in
Red Hook, Greenbush, Lansingburgh,
Troy, Long Island & other places & all
papers relating to his services in the army are
lost or destroyed - At one time we had a
Book containing memoranda of his services
and a list of his soldiers. This book is lost. my
husband at one time had two soldiers by
the name of Kitchum, I do not know whether
any of his old soldiers are living who served under him
after my marriage with him.
abigail allen {signature]
Sworn to & subscribed before
me this 30th November 1837
Wheeler H. Clarke
commissioner of Deeds
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L. Allen,
Papers
Revolutionary claims
Capt Lathrop Allen
Connect line
Col Elmore
April 15 1776 - 1777 1 yr

Services provided

Admitted
appd Capt 15. Apr 1776
[crossed out]
reported on Furlough 13 June))

[illegible] Genl. Office
Recd. 20th Augt 1819 from Jno. B. Dexter Esq.
Hudson N.Y.
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To the Honorable the Secretary of War of the United States
The memorial of Lathrop Allen an Applicant for a Pension under the act of congress of March 18 1818 —
Respectfully Herwith
That your memorialist conceiving himself clearly entitled to a pension under the aforementioned act of congress and being in great want did on the 10th day of April 1818 apply to Hezekiah Dayton Esqr then a Judge of the court of common pleas of the county of Columbia & did before him make oath as appears by the affidavit here with first and did also procure a Deposition to be taken at the Same time of Doctor Moses Younglove of Hudson which is also herewith inclosed in Testimony of your memorialists claim which second deposition being [crossed out] both on one sheet of paper the said Judge a few days after certified under the latter on the same form that his opinion on the same as in his opinion the law required & did soon after transmit to the War department at Washington — that from the length of time since the Service was performed & the relative circumstances
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your memorialist could not then hear of any other competent living witness to be procured & had a confidant hope of the sufficiency of what he had sent.
That the said papers being returned from the pension officer as wanting a second witness and your memorialist happening to hear of William Munson Surveyor of the Port of Newhaven in Connt. being yet alive, & competent did, with all diligence, and after much accidental delay, procure the Deposition from him herewith sent — That in the mean while the Sheet of paper containing the two depositions before first mentioned [crossed out] happening inadvertently to be torn in two and the Said Judge Dayton having accepted another office and being no longer a Judge — there was one combin [illegible] have induced him to transmit now new and additional papers applied before a different Judge
Your memorialist prays therefore that twenty dollars a month may be granted to him commencing on the said 10th day of April 1818 when he first applied to Judge Dayton agreeable to his opinion of the meaning of the law —
Lathrop Allen
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On this 6th day of November 1819 before me the undersigned Mayor of the City of Hudson personally appeared Lathrop Allen to me well known & made Solemn oath to the truth of the facts mentioned & contained in the memorial by him signed & which is written on the other half of this paper —
Robt. Jenkins
Mayor of Hudson
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Top
1767
July 28
address
Abigail Allen

Pension Office.

Jas. L. Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City, D.C.
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Hudson N York July 25. 1837.
Jas. L. Edwards Esq.
Dear Sir/ Enclosed I send you such further Evidence as we have been able to procure in the case of Mrs. Allen of the City. We have concluded that this with what other you have will be sufficient and perfectly satisfactory to you. The fact is that Captain Allen did as much duty as almost any man engaged in the war from first to last. Mrs. Allen under advise considers herself hereby entitled to full captains pay and consequently claims it. In this we have not doubt you will concur & would have awarded it to her if she had said nothing upon the subject. (and perhaps the law will give her in addition thereto the back pay from her husbands death to 4 March 1831, at $480 per annum or $240 per annum. if so she has no objection to receiving it—/ But her claim as stated in the Enclosed affidavit made by her is what she considers the law as giving her beyond any question. Mrs. Allen requests me to urge your immediate attention to this matter, she has been, as she thinks, delayed very long she is advanced in years & has no means of living Except upon her children, who are not very well able to afford it.
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Mrs. Allen lives with her son Oliver H Allen of this city who keeps a store & is a very respectable man but is a man of small property & has a large family of his own. The sooner therefore Mrs. Allen receives her pension the more service it will be to her.
Very Respectfully yours,
Wheeler H. Clarke.

The papers Enclosed are
Mrs Allens afft
Joseph Earls afft
Dep Secretary's 2 certificates
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999
Brief of Mrs Abigail Allens proofs in her application for a Pension —
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Brief Statement [illegible] Abigail Allens Proofs made to Entitle her to a Pension under the act of 4th July 1836 as the widow of the late Captain Lathrop Allen late of Greenbush Rensselaer County in the State of New York deceased — who was at the time of his death a Revolutionary Pensioner under the act of 1818. 
First said Captain Lathrop Allen died at Greenbush 12th August 1826. This is proven by the widows affidavit & the returns to the Pension Department. And its also proven that applicant is the widow of the same Captain Lathrop Allen who obtained a Pension from the War Department for services which he performed in the Revolutionary War in Colonel Samuel Elmores Connecticut Continental Regiment prior & up to the month of April 1777.
These services were performed by said Allen in the State of New York & in Canada principally. The above facts are clearly shewn & not disputed by the department—
Second. The marriage of said Lathrop Allen and his above named widow in the year 1777 towards the close of it is also proven & admitted. This marriage took place in New Britain Columbia County then Columbia County. Her maiden name was Abigail Hazard.
Third the applicant claims that she has proven services rendered by her said
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husband in the Revolutionary War subsequent to April 1777 in the continental line & subsequent to her marriage to him, also services in the New York State Troop —
Her said husband in his statements testifies that he served under different continental officers about about 3 years after April 1777. In testifying to this he is entirely disinterested, because in making his first statement he had already proven a sufficient time to Entitle him to a full Pension under the act of 1818 without availing himself of any services rendered after April 1777. And in his swornd statement he repeats the same facts & the same services— Applicant herself testifies to the services her husband performed and states the time to be about 3 years after the marriage In this she is corroborated by all the witnesses who undertake to testify to Captain Allens services and she is also corroborated by circumstances. The witnesses who testify and whose evidence bears upon the point are [illegible] the applicants Mrs. Ide Mrs Hazard & Joseph Earl— All testify that they lived in the same neighborhood were well acquainted with the captain & his wife & all say they remember seeing Captain Allen come home from the army to see his wife and they relate the circumstance of captain Allens coming
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home the very night his second child was born which is clearly proven to have been in 1780— That this testimony proves captain Allen to have been in the service from 1777 to & including the year 1780 there can be no doubt. The evidence of living witnesses coincide with each other and the circumstances they relate all agree. What regiments he served in from April 1777 to May 1780 does not appear by the testimony. He himself states the names of several officers under whom he served during the 3 years he served after April 1777 which would bring it up to April 1780. The first statement made by Mrs Allen states 3 years & upwards after marriage which would make it 3 years & 8 months & more after April 1777. This statement was made by her & her witnesses before any witness testified that he served in the New York Levies. From April 1777 to May 1780 it is not specified in what Regiment he performed his continental services, but the Pay Rolls in the Department undoubtedly contain those services & the names mentioned or some of them in applicants affidavits may shew that he is the same individual. The names are William Allen, Eseck Elsworth or Ailsworth & Alderman Also Fuller. Hallenbeck & Goodfellow & the two Kitchums N.B. These names are
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not found among Harpers men in Allens company. But they were probably under Allen prior to that time. Mrs. Allen in her affidavits states she cannot remember the time they served under her husband —
The applicant claims that her husband served in colonel John Harpers Regiment from May 11. 1780 for about 8 months under an Entitlement in the Levies of the state of New York.
It is objected to the proof in this matter First, that because Captain Lathrop Allen did not mention the service in the New York levies in making a statement of the services he performed in the Revolutionary War in order to obtain a Pension under the act of 1818, therefore the presumption is that applicants late husband is not the same individual who served in Harpers Regiment, and further it is objected that if applicants husband held a captains commission under congress, he would not have accepted of a commission from & under the Government of the State of New York.
It is admitted that a many by the name of Lathrop Allen on the 11th May 1780 was appointed a captain in John Harpers Regiment of the State of New York and that he served under that Enlistment as appears by the Pay Rolls
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in the War Department Seven months & twenty Eight days — And the only question left in this matter to be settled is whether applicants husband is the same individual because if he is applicant is Entitled to a Pension under the above mentioned act whether her said husband served from april 1777 to May 1780 or not.
Applicant denies that the fact of her said husbands not mentioning the services performed under colonel Harper from & after 11 May 1780 raises a presumption that he was not the individual. applicants husband that he served 3 years under various continental officers after april 1777— because under the act of 1818 only continental services entitled a man to the benefits of that act and any statements of any other services would have been entirely irrelevant and no attorney in drawing the statement would have put them on paper and if they had been mentioned by Allen at the time would not have been put in the statement— and Captain Allen in two statements gives a statement of his continental services and of no other — & which according to his statement come up to April 1780. and Captain Allen would naturally avoid saying any thing of [crossed out] any other than continental services.
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If the services under Colonel Harper had been such as would have Entitled to the benefits of the act of 1818 it is conceded that then the omision would have raised a presumption that it was some other individual, but as it now stands no presumption is raised whatsoever —
Again it is objected that having a commission under congress he could not have accepted a commission under the State Government. If this position is correct & if this was so does it not shew that he was in active service under his first commission. Would it not be [illegible] to suppose that the General Government for more than 3 years kept this man idle with a captains commission in his pocket & would neither Employ nor discharge him. This kind of reasoning is very unsatisfactory & shews a disposition to Cavil — and takes the Extreme reasoning by which almost any claim might be defeated & the law rendered a nonentity—
The testimony shewing that applicants husband served in Harpers Regiment is both circumstantial and positive.
First Joseph Earls two affidavits testify that he was well acquainted with applicants husband in the Revolutionary War and Ever since. That in the
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time of the Revolutionary War he was Captain Allens. That Captain Allen "the year of Arnold's Treachery" Enlisted into the New York [illegible]. That he remembers this distinctly and he calls this 9 months service In these two affidavits he is testifying of the same Captain Allen who was the husband of this applicant, yet I could not make Mr. Edwards understand it so. Mr. Edwards contended that he could not understand by Earl's 2nd affidavit that he was swearing about the same captain Lathrop Allen he did in the first & in this I found consisted the main difficulty yet nothing to me appears plainer —/
Earl says that these services in New York Services were after the marriage & it as he thinks Captain Allens last service — [illegible] affidavit will shew the manner of my taking said Earls Testimony — Earl himself in making his own statement to get a Pension states he was out the year of Arnolds Treason/ See his application with Mr Edwards./ Earl swears positively that Capt Allen in 1780 was captain in the N.Y. Levies. The Deputy Secretary of State of New York shews that Lathrop Allen 11th May 1780 was appointed a captain in the New York levies [crossed out] and
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His Deputy Secretary in his sworn certificate shews that there was but one Lathrop allen appointed by the Governor & council of appointment & that was 11th May 1780 & that the Archives in his Department contained no other Lathrop Allen— The New York State Government was organized in 1788 & from that time the members of the council of appointment are regularly kept. It therefore is proven conclusively that said Lathrop Allen appointed 11 May 1780 was the same individual who was applicants husband and cannot be any other. Mr. Earls recollection is perfectly good & his mind is unimpaired— In addition to Mr Earls testimony upon this point Mrs. Hazard (capt. Allens sister & the applicant herself swear positively to the fact. See Mrs Hazards last afft & Joel Bellamys certificate & Enquire of Colonel Pratt for Mr Bellamys character & get his certificate. 
Mrs Allen in her last affidavit states that in 1780 when the Mohawk Country was devastated her husband was sent on Express to Albany— [crossed out]
Her statement agrees with the History of the times & Harpers Regiment was then on the Mohawk & took a part
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in the Indian warfare carried on at that time / See the History of Tryon County in the Library of the Capitol & J L Edwards has it also/ In my affidavit & in Earls you will see a good reason for his remembering it— He applied for a initiation in the company and was disappointed—
If the Secretary of War should think Earls affidavits were not Explicit enough I wish him to put interrogatories to him & send to me & I will send them to Earl or he may send the interrogatories directly to Mr Johnson at Florida Minaville Montgomery County./ Minaville Post Office/.
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cd.
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State of New York
Greene County} ss. Philomena Hazard of Catskill in the County of Greene & State aforesaid being duly sworn deposeth and saith that she was seventy five years old in May last past that she is the sister of the late captain Lathrop Allen who was the husband of Mrs. Abigail Allen now residing in the City of Hudson in the County of Columbia and state of New York. That her said brother came from the army home to see his family at the time his second child was born which was in the year 1780 as this deponant has before testified. This deponant says she recollects of hearing her brother at that time say he served under Colonel harper & she also distinctly recollects of hearing him say since that he served under Colonel Harper. And she has frequently heard him talk of Colonel Harper, and she says upon being asked the second time that she knows she heard her Brother say he served under Colonel Harper—
her X mark
Philomena Hazard
Subscribed & sworn to before me this 30 Day of August 1837 —
Joel Bellamy Justice Peace
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State of New York
Greene County ss.  Philomena hazard to me personally a Justice of the peace in and for the County of Greene made solemn oath to the truth contained in the within written affidavit & subscribed by her by making her mark & she being Duly sworn stated to me that the reason she did not write her name was from Bodily infirmity & ill health & old age I certify that I have examined her separately & apart from others as to the matters Stated in saiid Affidavit & I am satisfied that she had perfect understanding of the matters stated in said Affidavit & I also certify that I am well acquainted with her & say she is of good moral character & is intitled to Credit..
Given under my hand Town of Catskill County of Greene this 30th Day of August 1837
Joel Bellamy a Justice of Peace

State of New York. Greene County ss. I William T. B. Heermance Clerk of the said County do certify that Joel Bellamy Esq. before whom the affidavit on the other side written was sworn and who subscribed the above certificate was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace of the said County, duly elected and qualified, and that his signature to said affidavit & certificate is genuine.
Witness my hand and the seal of the said County this 30th day of August 1837.
William T. B. Heermance Clerk
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State of New York
County of Montgomery} ss Joseph Earl of Montgomery aforesaid aged a few days older than Eighty years a revolutionary pensioner of the United States being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he was well acquainted with Captain Lathrop Allen mentioned in the affidavit of Philomena Hazard hereto annexed during the Revolutionary war & ever since until his death — That he knows of said Allens serving a long time during the Revolutionary war in the army first as Lieutenant & then as captain, but he this deponant does not recollect the name of any one of the Colonels under whom said Allen served This deponant recollects that said Allen enlisted in the nine months service of the State of New York as Captain & went to the northward of said State of New York. This deponant does not recollect the year that said Allen went into the said nine months service, but it was the same year that this deponant entered the service the last time, when this deponant went south & was for some time encamped on the Jersey shore — and it was— the same —year of Arnolds treachery — This deponant never knew or heard of any other [illegible] of Allen in the war of the Revolution nor since —
"This nine months tour was Allens last I am pretty sure"
Joseph Earl
Sworn & subscribed before me this 31 August 1837}
Jacob Johnson Justice of Peace
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I certify that Joseph Earl named in the within
affidavit is well known to me. He is a man
of good moral character and the statement
by him made in said affidavit is entitled
to full credit. Dated at Florida Montgomery
County this 31 August 1857
And I further certify that the interdiction 
in said affidavit made was done before
it was sworn to by said Earl
Jacob Johnson Justice of the Peace

State of New York, Montgomery County Clerks office, I, George D.
Ferguson Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that Jacob
Johnson before whom the foregoing affidavit of Joseph Earl
purports to have been sworn was on the date of the same
Justice of the peace in & for said County and that his
name subscribed to said affidavit & also to the above certificate is his genuine signature.
In testimony whereof I have hereto set my
hand and affixed the seal of my office
this 31st Augt. 1837.
Geo D Ferguson Clk.
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State of New York
Secretary's Office
I certify that on the 11th day
of May 1780 Lothrop Allen was duly appointed and
Commissioned a Captain in the Regiment of Levies
appointed for the Frontier Service whereof John Harper
was Lieutenant Colonel Commandant all which appears
by the Minutes of the Council of Appointment
of this State in this office
And I further certify that on a careful
Examination of the said Minutes of the minutes of
the provincial Congress of New York & also of
the Military Register of the Line of this State serving
in the army of the United States it does not appear
that "Lothrop Allen" was appointed to any
office except the one above mentioned in this State
Arch'd Campbell
Dep. Secretary
Albany September 1. 1837
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State of New York
Columbia County} ss.
Ezra Warner of New Lebanon in said County being sworn says that he is now 78
years old & has lived in this section of country & within
one mile of his present residence for the space of about
70 years last past. That he was well acquainted with
Lathrop Allen in the time of the war of the Revolution. This
deponent was exempt in consequence of defect in his life from military duty. the said Lathrop Allen married Abigail Hazard with
whom this deponent has been acquainted for more than
four years and before she was married. she now lives in Hudson
in this County and is the mother of Oliver H Allen of
Hudson with whom this deponent is also well acquainted
I with whom this deponent has frequently traded
This deponent recollects Col. John Harper and
recollects said Harper moved to New Lebanon from
Harpersfield and that said Harper was appointed to
the command of a Regiment of Levies or 9 months men.
This deponent also recollects that the above named Lathrop
Allen was appointed a captain in that Regiment in the
year Brant & Butler came down on the Mohawk in 1780.
Deponent Knows of Allen being about enlisting men but cannot
tell whom he enlisted sd Allen when he was enlisting men lived
in what was called "New Britian" & was married to said Abigail Hagan
Ezra Warner
Sworn to + subscribed before
me this 13th day of June 1838
Whalen H Clarke
Court of deeds
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I hereby certify that I am well satisfied from examination of
Elisha Gilbert of New Lebanon in said County of
Columbia with whom I am well acquainted that the
above named Ezra Warner is a man of good moral
character and that his statement is entitled to full credit
said Warners neighbors also coincided with said Elisha Gilbert
in giving said Warner a good character in every respect.
Whalen H Clarke
Comr of deeds

State of New York
Columbia County Ss. 
Joseph Earl of Florida in the
County of Montgomery in the State of New York aged
Eighty years old & upon and now on a visit to his
Brother in New Lebanon in Columbia County in addition to
what he has heretofore testified in the case of the widow of
the late Capt. Lathrop Allen further testifies that after
the Birth of Oliver H. Allen he this deponent worked for
said Lathrop Allen about one year when said Allen enlisted
into the nine month service. This deponent commenced
work in the spring and left in the spring following. When
Allen got his commission he promised this deponent
to get a situation for him in his company and said Allen said
he would go + see Gov. Clinton & see if he could not affect it.
Said Cpt Allen did not return until after this deponent
did I this Deponent was in Capt. Bostwic's company + col Livingstons Regt. the same time as Allen went into said 9 months service
This deponent cannot be mistaken
about Capt. Lathrop Allens being in said 9 months service
after he was married said Allen went to the Northward + Allen went
in the spring of the year & retired late in the season of the
year. & further deponent saith not
Joseph Earl
Sworn to & subscribed before
me this 13th June 1838.
Whalen H. Clarke
Comr of Deeds
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I further certify that I am acquainted with Joseph
Earl of Mongomery County, named in the forgoing
affidavit, he is a man of good moral character
of apparently good memory & capacity and
I consider his statement entitled to full
credit. June 13th 1838
Whalen A. Clarke
Comr. of deed
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New Concord
June 8th
Wheeler H. Clark Esq
Attorney at Law
Hudson
Columbia Co
N.Y
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State of New York
Columbia} ss — Thos Wilborns of New Lebanon in the said County, aged in November last 76 years being Duly Sworn, deposeth and sayeth, that he was resident in said place ever since he was Eleven years old— That He was well acquanted with Capt Lathrop Allen and abigail Hazard before they were married and afterwards — This deponent in the time of the Revolutionary War lived in the said Neighborhood with the said Allen, This deponent remembers the marriage — This deponent recollects William Allen said Lathrops Brother and remembers, that said William was in the battle of Bennington, from a curious circumstance, that hapented to him, said William which was that he had his [illegible] Shot off he distinctly recollect of seeing him after, and when he had his [illegible] or hair shot off — Deponent recollect Brother Lathrop was at the Bennington fight with him — William was a fifer, Deponent thinks William was some times his Brothers fifer, and sometimes was not at different periods in the War In the fall of the year 1780 deponent was called upon to go to the north at the time, Sir John [illegible] nson and Braint and Butler with Indians and Tories, come down the Mohawk River, and went in Captain Boshrecks Company, and Colonel William B. Whiting, Regiment of Militia Deponent was gone about 4 weeks, as the Deponent has before stated, in making an affidavit for Rhueben [illegible] and Jonathon Russel — The deponent remembers that the af. mentioned, Capt Allen, was in the Engagement with the Indians the same day, Colonel Brown was killed, near Stone Arabia with this deponent and commanded the Platton in which this deponent was stationed, This was the 19th day of October, and on Thursday of the week in the year 1780
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The circumstance of Capt Lathrop Allen being [illegible] is as follows This Deponents with the Company to which he belong was in pursuit of the Indians after they had the Engagement with Colonel Brown at the Stone Arabia, and had got on the same side of the Mohawk River that the Indians were when Capt Alen come up to the platoon, in which this deponent was and said here is a platoon that has no one to command, and said he would take the Command We were then in plain sight of the Indians said Allen went into the engagement with the rest of the forces, [illegible] von Monseler command, Colonel Whiti  [illegible] was there, said Allen Company was not the last as the deponent was enformed was at Fort Stanwix, When Capt L. Allen formed the Platoon to which to which this deponent belonged, that he knew said Allen as well as his own brother, Deponent was then enformed by said Lathrop Allen, that he has been home, and was on his return to his company, Allen was or had been immediately preceding that , stationed at Fort Stanwix — Deponent further says that Capt. Lathrop Allen was the Father of Oliver H Allen of Hudson now living there, and was the husband of Abigail Allen, now his Widow residing in the vally of Hudson in this County. —
This deponent served 3 Tours on e in the Spring of 1780 the one abovementioned in the fall of 1780, and one Tour in the [crossed out] 1781. making in the 3 Tours between two and three months, Deponent distinctly recollects that said Capt. Lathrop Allen was out frequently during the Revolutionary War and was at home but a short part of the time until the War closed, and was under different Enlistments, That the deponent knows that the said Allen was not a Militia man, when on his way to Fort Stanwix as above mentioned but was an Enlisted officer and a Captain and was on his way to his Company
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This deponent does not recollect the particular time that said Allen was engaged in [crossed out] but he distinctly recollects that Allen informed him at the time that he was stationed at Fort Stanwix and he understood the same thing from others and he also Understood that Allen had been To Albany on Business and from there home, and was at the time above mentioned on his return to Fort Stanwix and further sayeth not —
Elias Williams

Sworn before me this Sixth day of June 1837. 
and subscribed in my presence
John Merimon
Commissr of Deeds
I Certify the said Elias Williams is an honest industrious farmer fills a reputable Station in society, I have been acquanted with him 4 years his memory is as [illegible] Impaired as any man of his age
John Merriman - [illegible]
Commissioner of Deeds &c —
Canaan Columbia Co.
June 6th 1838,

To whom it may Concern
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State of New York
Columbia of County { ss. Elisha Gilbert of the Town of New Lebanon in said County aged Seventy One and upwards being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he has resided in the town of New Lebanon since the year 1769 or 70 that in the time of the Revolutionary War this section of County was called New Lebanon, New Concord New Britain and New Canaan in King's District and in the County of Albany but no Towns were Found until the state [crossed out] constitution was formed and when they were organized they were all called Canaan and since that time the Towns of New Canaan New Lebanon and a part of Chatham were formed from that section
That this deponants Father was in the time of the Revolutionary War [crossed out] a Captain of Militia in said District and this deponant though young went with his Father in some of the Towns he served in the Militia service during said war this deponant recollects many things that took place in this section of the County this section of the County was taken up by Connecticut People in 1763 1764 this deponant was well acquainted in the Revolutionary War with Lathrop Allen who then lived in Canaan aforesaid and in New Britain, and the same man who married Abigail Hazard lives in Hudson and is the mother of Oliver H Allen of Hudson this deponant called upon the widow of Lthrop Allen last week
This deponant recollects that Colonel John Harper fled from Harpers field and came into the town and lived with his Family about a mile and a half from New Lebanon Springs in the Town of New Lebanon and it was generally reported that Colonel John Harper while living in New Lebanon went into the State service deponant knows that he was absent from home and it was said he was in the Army Deponanat says from the best of his recollections that when said Harper went into the army his Familys
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went to Connecticut. Deponant Further says that it was generally said in this neighborhood that said Lathrop Allen was appointed Captain of one of the Companies in said Harpers Regiment and this deponant recollects that said Allen about that time went into the army and was missing from the neighborhood at or about the same time said Harper was This deponant recollects that said Allen had been a Captain in this war prior to the period above stated 
This deponant cannot distinctly recollect the precise year in which Harper and Allen went into the service but from this deponants best recollection or impression it was about the year 1778 or 1780 deponant recollects that said Allen was very zealous in the service
This deponant is well acquainted with Ezra Warner of this Town and in a conversation this deponant had with said Warner prior to the 13th instant and before Wheeler H. Clarke of Hudson took his afft said Warner stated to this deponant substantially the same as this deponant has testified to relative to said Lathrop Allen going with Harper into the 9 months service and this deponant First gave said Clarke the information in relation to it and of what this deponant above states. Said Warner is of good moral character and his statement is Entitled to Full credit said Warner made this statement to deponant and this deponant did not put any leading questions to him it appeared to be perfectly Familiar to him
Elisha Gilbert
Sworn & Subscribed before me this 16th day of June 1838 by Elisha Gilbert to me personally known to be of good moral character & reputable standing —
Isaac Everett Commissioner of Deeds.

Having known Elisha Gilbert the above named deponant more than thirty years and being a resident of the same Town with said Gilbert I do hereby certify that said Gilberts reputation is that of a good moral character and that full faith & credit may be given to said Gilberts declarations. given under my hand at the city of Hudson in the County of Columbia and state of New York this 19th day of June 1838.
John Bull [illegible] a Judge of County Courts in & for said County
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I have been well acquainted with Elisha Gilbert named in the annexed affidavit for the last forty years. He is a man of intelligence & integrity and his statement is entitled to entire credit 
Hudson June 19th 1838

Medad Butler 
one of the Judges of Columbia County Court
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State of New York Columbia County SS 
I Samuel Doty of Chatham in the county of Columbia formerly & lately of Ghent in this county aged eighty two years being sworn say that I have once before made an affidavit stating my services under Capt Lathrop Allen in Elmores Regiment in the war of the Revolution. That I was well acquainted with said Lathrop Allen & lived in the same District of country in which he did after he left Elmores Regiment about five miles distant. Deponent knows of Captain Allens being in the service after the year 1777 but he cannot tell in what Regiment he served. This deponent knows that he is the same Capt Lathrop with whom this deponant was then & is now acquainted. She is the mother of Oliver H Allen of Hudson. This deponant in the time of the war of the Revolution knew no other Lathrop Allen or Capt Lathrop Allen. Said Capt Lathrop Allen was a witness for me when I obtained my pension under act of 18th March 1818.
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This deponant in conversations he had with said Lathrop Allen about the time this deponant was getting his pension was told him that he had been in engagements with the Indians & that he had been stationed in Schohaine and that he had had a great many balls fired at him. These services of which he spoke were done after the year or spring of 1777 when I served under him. My opinion from my (illegible) is that said Capt Lathrop Allen is that he was in the service pretty much all of the war of the Revolution but from the lapse of time & loss of memory I am unable to specify the particular services he performed but I am confident he served. 
he same Capt Lathrop Allen under whom I served in Elmores Regiment married Abigail Hazard the mother of Oliver Allen of Hudson
Samuel Doty X his mark

Sworn to & subscribed before me this 21 day of August 1838.
Wheeler H Clark
Commissioner of Deeds
Witness present
Eleaser Davis
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State of New York Columbia County SS
I Killian Miller clerk of the County of Columbia aforesaid do hereby certify that Wheeler H Clarke was at the time of taking the annexed affidavits of Samuel Doty Ezra Warner & Joseph Earls a Commissioner of Deeds That John Merriman was also at the time of taking Elias Williams affidavit hereto annexed a commissioner in & for said county. That Isaac Everest was also at the time of taking Elisha Gilberts annexed affidavit a commissioner of Deeds, in & for said county. And that Medad Butler & John Bull Junr. were at the time of making their certificates to the character of Elisha Gilbert & endorsed on his affidavit respectively Judges of the Common Pleas Court of this county & further that I am acquainted with the signatures of said Wheeler, H. Clarke John Merriman Isaac Everest John Bull Junr. & Medad Butler, and that said signatures to said affidavits & the certificates are the genuine signatures of said Clarke, Everest Merriman Bull & Butler respectively.
In testimony whereof 
March 1818
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I have hereunto affixed my seal of office & subscribed my name this twenty first day of August in the year eighteen hundred & thirty eight.
K. Miller 
Clerk Col. Co New York
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District of Columbia City of Washington SS
I Wheeler H. Clarke of Hudson County of Columbia & state of New York do depose & say that at the time I took Joseph Earls first affidavit in the matter of Mrs Abigail Allen of Hudson aforesaid for a pension under act of 4th July 1836, that said Earl stated that he was informed by Captain Lathrop Allen said Abigails late husband that he had enlisted into the New York lines & he Earl requested Capt Allen to get him a situation in the company. That Capt Allen promised him he would & afterwards when Capt Allen returned from Albany he told him that all vacancies in the company were filled and that then he enlisted into another Regiment.
And further said Earl was not by me in any way informed what particular services said Allen had performed before he made the statement & said Earl stated it of his own accord & without any suggestion being made to him by me or any other person to my knowledge or belief.
Wheeler H. Clarke 

District of Columbia City of Washington, to wit:
On the 7th day of December 1837 before me Notary Public personally appeared Wheeler H Clarke the maker of the above declaration and made oath according to law that all the matters therein set forth are just and true to the best of his knowledge and belief.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed my notarial seal
James H. Causten Not: Pub:
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Abigail Allens Power of Atty
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POWER OF ATTORNEY.   [Sold by Wm. & A. Gould & Co.]
Know all Men by these Presents, That [illegible]— Abigail Allen of Hudson in the County of Columbia & State of New York widow of Captain Lathrop Allen, a Pensioner of the United States deceased — Have made, constituted, and appointed, and by these presents do make, constitute, and appoint Wheeler H. Clarke of Hudson aforesaid [illegible] true and lawful attorney for me and my name, place, and stead to obtain my Pension under the 3d Section of Act of Congress passed July 4, 1836 as the widow of the above named Captain Lathrop Allen,/ hereby revoking any & all authority heretofore by me granted to any other person or persons to act for me in the same/—

giving and granting unto my said attorney full power and authority to do and perform all and every act and thing whatsoever requisite and necessary to be done in and about the premises, as fully, to all intents and purposes, as might or could do if personally present with full power of substitution and revocation, hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said attorney or his substitute shall lawfully do or cause to be done by virtue hereof.
In Witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty Eight
Sealed and delivered in the presence of 
L N Coffin
Abigail Allen

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
State of New York
Columbia Co.}ss BE IT KNOWN, That on the Seventeenth day of September one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight before me, Levi N. Coffin a notary of Public duly admitted & Sworn residing in this City of Hudson and acknowledged the above Letter of Attorney to be her act and deed.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my name, aand affixed the seal of office, the day and year last above written.
L N Coffin
Notary Public
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Abigail Allen to Francis Barnes 
Letter of Attorney

Waterman & Barney
Attorneys & Counsellors 89 Nassau st N. Y.
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Sold by ANSTCE, cor. Cedar and Nassau st.
Power of Attorney.
Know all men by these presents, that I Abigail Allen, of the City of Hudson State of New York, widow of Lathrop Allen late of the County of Rensselar & State of New York have made, constituted, and appointed, and by these presents do make, constitute, and appoint Francis Barnes formerly of the City of Washington District of Columbia and now of the City of New York my true and lawful attorney for me and in my name, place and stead. to receive from the United States or any officer or department thereof all lands and titles thereto and all sum and sums of money pay and Commutation of pay to which the said Lathrop Allen, deceased was entitled at the time of his decease or to which I am and have since become entitled to for his services as a Captain in the Army of the Revolution of the United States by virtue of any act of Congress which hath been or may hereafter be passed in relation to the pensioner and also for me and in my name as my act and deed to sign execute and deliver such papers, receipts, releases and discharges as shall be necessary in the premises hereby revoking all former powers of attorney (illegible) for similar purposes by me and declaring the same from this date to be void & of no effect giving and granting unto my said attorney full power and authority to do and perform all and every act and thing whatsoever requisite and necessary to be done in and about the premises, as fully, to all intents and purposes, as I might or could do, if personally present, with full power of substitution and revocation, hereby satisfying and confirming all that my said attorney or his substitute shall lawfully do, or cause to be done, by virtue hereof.
In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal the second day of July in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight.
Abigail Allen

Sealed and delivered in the presence of the word "formerly" between the 5 & ^th lines being interlined.
Gersham Bulkley
Saml. Whitney

United States of America, City and County of New York SS
Be it known, that on the second day of July one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight before me Hiram Barney a Public Notary, in and for the State of New-York, duly commissioned and sworn, dwelling in the City of New York personally came the within named Abigail Allen to me proved to be the person described in & who executed the above letter of attorney by the Oath of Samuel Whitney one of the subscribing witnesses thereto and acknowledged the above Letter of Attorney to be his own proper act and deed. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed my seal of office, the day and year last above written.
Hiram Barney
Notary Public
89 Nassau st. N.Y.
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City and County of New York SS
Samuel Whitney of the said City and County of New York being duly sworn deposes and says that he was an intimate acquaintance of Lathrop Allen deceased late of the Town of Greenbush and County of Renssalaer and executor of the last will and testament of the said Lathrop Allen, which said will was dated the sixth day of January one thousand eight hundred and twenty four - and proved before James Campbell the surrogate of the City and County of New York September fourteenth one thousand eight hundred and twenty six. That by that said last will and testament the said Lathrop Allen bequeathed unto his wife Abigail Allen all his estate real and personal whether in possession or (illegible) or to which he might be entitled. That this deponent is and has for twenty years, known the said Abigail Allen the widow of the said Lathrop - and knows her to be the person described in and who executed
the letter of Attorney bearing date this second day of July and acknowledged before Hiram Barney of the City of New York Notary Public to which said Power of Attorney this affidavit is annexed - And further says not.
Samuel Whitney

Sworn and subscribed to this second day of July 1838 before me
Hiram Barney
Notary Public
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State of New York County of Columbia SS
Abigail Allen of Hudson in the County of Columbia & State of New York, the widow of the late Captain Lathrop Allen late of Greenbush in County of Renssalaer and State of New York aged in the month of September next seventy eight years, in addition to her former declaration made in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed July 4th 1838 further, for the purposes aforesaid, being duly sworn deposeth and saith That her marriage to said Lathrop Allen was before the last period of his services in the war of the revolution expired. That she first became acquainted with said Lathrop Allen about three months before their marriage, which took place in the month of December 1777 or about that time, and this deponant can say with certainty that it was before the first day of January 1778 and besides her recollection upon the matter she can state the circumstance that Oliver H. Allen her first child was born in the month of January 1779.
That said Lathrop Allen when this deponant first became acquainted with him was a captain in the war of the revolution & in
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active service therein. This deponant recollects the circumstance stated by Joseph Earl in his affidavit hereto annexed of said Lathrop Allens coming from the Army to see her dressed in his regimentals, and she remembers that when the cerimony of marriage between herself & said Allen was performed he wore his regimental dress.
That her said husband after his marriage returned to the command of his company and he remained in service in the war of the Revolution after their sd. marriage as many as three years - during which time her said husband was engaged in no civil employment. That after their sd. marriage he was engaged in said Revolutionary war as Captain in the State of New York, stationed at various places among which she recollects of his being at Fort Herkimer, Fort Schuyler & Fort Edward, & at the German Flats. That her said husband during the time he was in the Revolutionary war after she became acquainted with him acted then as Captain and in no other capacity.
This declareant further in her said application says that she claims to be entitled under the act aforesaid to Captains pay & the back pay from 4 March 1831 to the present time & a continuance thereof payable
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Semiannually on the 4th March & 4th September in each year during her natural life for which if granted she hereby releases all claim to any other or any other back pay. The captains pay hereby claimed is the same granted under act of 7th July 1832, [illegible] Revolutionary soldiers & officers.
And further this deponant says that she is the same person who heretofore sent her application to your Department claiming a pension under Act of 4th of July 1836 as the widow of said Lathrop Allen deceased.
& further this deponant saith not.
abigail allen
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 24. July 1837.}
Wheeler H. Clarke,
Commissioner of Deeds

I certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Abigail Allen. She is a woman of good moral character & her statement above made upon oath is entitled to full credit. Hudson July 24th 1837.
Wheeler H. Clarke,
Commissioner of deeds.
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State of New York
Columbia County
Clerks office} I, James Storm Clerk of the County of Columbia, do hereby certify that Wheeler H. Clarke before whom the foregoing affidavit purports to have been sworn was on the day of the date of the same a commissioner of deeds in & for the said county, & further that I am acquainted with the hand writing of said Commissioner & verily believe the name of the said commissioner subscribed to said affidavit and the foregoing certificate to be his proper hand writing & signature —
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and affixed the Seal of the said county this twenty fifth day of July A.D. 1837.
James Storm CLK.
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State of New York
County of Montgomery} ss. Joseph Earl of Florida in the County of Montgomery a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States aged in the month of August next Eighty years being duly Sworn deposeth and saith that he was born in the County of Duchess and State of New York, that he moved from Duchess County to what was then called New Briton in the County of Columbia in said State of New York that this deponant was well acquainted with Abigail Hazard before and after her marriage to Captain Lathrop Allen and the same woman who  is now the widow of said Lathrop Allen residing in the City of Hudson in the County of Columbia aforesaid and the Mother of Oliver H Allen of Hudson aforesaid this deponant resided about one mile from said Abigail Hazard at the time she was married to said Allen and was well acquainted with her and her family & this deponant had frequently been in company with said
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Abigail before her said marriage, this this deponant was at New Briton after said Abigail Hazard was married to said Capt Allen this deponant distinctly recollects of said Capt Lathrop Allen Enlisting in the New York Servace in the war of the Revolution and his being a Captain in said war under said Enlistment and that he served under that Enlistment Nine months & went to the North part of this state this was after their marriage this deponant did not know said Captain Lathrop Allen but a short time before his said marriage This deponant further says that he recollects that the time said Lathrop Allen was visiting said Abigail Hazard before their marriage he said Captain Lathrop Allen was then in the Army of the Revolution in Service  he wore his regimentals when he came to see her This deponant recollects that the Rev. Mr. Troop married them —
Joseph Earl
Sworn to and Subscribed before me this 22 day of July 1837
Jacob Johnson a Justice of the peace
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I certify that I am acquainted with Joseph Earl who signed the foregoing affidavit & have been acquainted with him for more than thirty years last past he is a man of good moral character & his statement above made is in entitled to full Credit 
Florida July 22d 1837
Jacob Johnson Justice of the peace

State of new York
Montgomery County
Clerks office. ss: I certify that Jacob Johnson before whom the foregoing affidavit purports to have been sworn was on the date of the same a Justice of the Peace in & for Montgomery County aforesaid and that his name thereto subscribed and also to the foregoing certificate is his genuine signature
In testimony whereof I have hereto set my hand & affixed the Seal of my office July 22. 1837.
Geo D. Ferguson, Clerk of Montgomery County
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State of New York
Secretary's Office

I certify that Lathrop Allen
was on the 11th day of May 1780 duly appointed and
Commissioned a Captain in a Regiment raised for the 
defense of the frontiers of this State whereof John
Harper was Lieutenant Colonel Commandant
all which appears by the minutes of the council of appointment
of this State in this Office.
Arch'd Campbell
Dep. Secretary
Albany July 21. 1837.
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Copy of a Letter from Capt. Allen Dated 21.st Oct. 1776 to General Schuyler.
No. 17.

Fort Dayton OCt. 21.st 1776
May it please your Excellency,
Col. Elmer having gone with the Chief part of his Regiment up to Fort Schuyler agreeable to your Excellency's order, he left me to command at this post till the return of Major Cochran. I thought proper to inform your Excellency of the present circumstance of our affairs agreeable to my instructions viz: On hearing some news to our disadvantage from Lake Champlain we are credible informed, that there was a consultation held at at Canajoharie Castle among the Indians and several Tories, since which several of said TOries have (as is generally believed) absconded to join the Enemy viz: One Hanjoost Schuyler a Serjent in one of our Ranger Companies, Hanjoost Hankamar, a son in law of the Old Widow Hankamer and several others who were reputed to be disaffected persons. There are likewise since said consultation passing along upwards, a considerable number of Indians as tho' to leave the place endeavoring as they pass to get clear of their paper money; upon the whole as such multitudes of Tories &c. have gone from this part it is not altogether unlikely that if our Northern Army should be unsuccessful we may soon have an Invasion here or if not yet since it is our part to be in readyness I would inform your Excellency that we have not more than 12 lbs of Powder and a few cartridges which in case of necessity would be short allowance for 123 Effective men which is the number of the detachment, Including Capt Eisenlords Company to which I trust your Excellency will pay due attention and forward a sufficient quantity of ammunition as soon as may be
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There are likewise four several guns in this Fort for
which if we had proper ammunition they might
be of use in case of an attack I have the Honor
of being
Your Excellency's most
Humble servant
Lathrop Allen Capt.

V1767
State of New York
Secretary's Office
I have compared the
preceding with a copy of a letter bound up in
in Vol 25 of the papers of the provincial
Congress of New York marked & Lettered "Military
Committee 1775. 1776. 1777. 1778' page
257 which volume is part of the records of
this Office and I certify that the same is a
correct transcript therefrom and of the
whole of said Letter.

Given under my hand and the
Seal of this office at the City of
Albany the 21st day of July
A.D. 1837
Arch'd Campbell
Dep. Secretary
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[illegible]
Rev John Trumbull
Congregation
[illegible] of 1779
[illegible]
Mrs Allen

John Woodness [?]
[illegible]
care
Sarah Cole

Westbury Parish
[illegible] Litchfield
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To the Honorable the Legislature of the State of New York in Senate Assembly Convened

The Petition of Lathrop Allen of the City of Hudson Humbly Sheweth.
That your petitioner during the War with Great Britain took an active part in defence of his country _ that in the year 1775 he entered the service as a Volunteer and proceeded to the northward _ and at Ticonderoga joined the Second New York Regiment Commanded by Coll  Van Scaik where he continued in actual service until the Regiment was disband _ he was then appointed first Lieutenant in General Woosters Regiment and in the Spring after received a Captains Commission in Coll Elmores Regiment and continued in actual service until the eleventh of May 1780 when he obtained a captains Commission in Coll Harpers Regiment being soon after Requested by Governor Clinton to go Express to the army commanded by General Van Rensselaer and on his arrival being ordered to join the Troops under his command he was compelled to cross some fences where he was obliged to leave his horse and baggage which was taken by the enemy your petitioner there lost his horse, saddle, Bridle and his Portmanteau containing accounts and receipts for moneys and property advanced to the Soldiers and the Indian Department to the amount of eight Hundred pounds and was by these means deprived of obtaining the same from Congress or this State _ Your petitioner was engaged in repeated actions and was several times wounded and at length becoming weak and infirm was obliged to leave the army and return home: and not being in circumstances personally to apply to Congress
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your petitioner several times sent by other persons to them for his pay but never has been able to obtain the same or any compensation for his losses. 
Your petitioner therefore having Lost his pay his property and his health in the service of his country and being now poor, worn down by age & sickness and not able to furnish himself with the necessarys of life, has applied himself to the justice and humanity of the Legislature to grant him some relief either by a grant of land or money for his immediate relief from pressing necessities and your Petitioner as in duty bound will every pray &c. 
lathrop Allen.
Endorsed Lathrop Allen _ In Assembly March 2d. 1802
Read and Referred to Mr Shurtloff Mr Root Mr Hasbrouch

These are to certify that Captain Lathrop Allen served in the Regt. commanded by Coll. John Harper in the year 1780 and that to the best of my Knowledge he behaved himself as a good Officer and an honest man.
Albany 17th March 1802
Isaac Bogert

These may certify that Lathrop Allen served in the Regiment that I had the honor to command in the year 1780 and behaved as become a good officer a brave soldier and honest man and in a Sconnage with the enemy onfortunately lost his horse and portmanty with his papers with his public accounts
John Harper.

The deposition of Captain Elijah Bostwick deposeth and saith that Captain Lathrop Allen was in actual service with me at fourt Edward in the year seventeen hundred and seventy seven, in the month of July in the army of the United
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States then collected to oppose General Bergoines army. and the said Capt. Lathrop Allen then acted under his commitions. He now holds signed by John Hancock Esquire President  of Congress as a captain in Coll.l Elmores Regt. and that he the sd. Allen then and at other times informing me that he considered himself belonging to the army and that he expected soon to be called on to join the army and take his rank in some Regt or core as he was not discharged from the army and ever found him a faithful friend to his country and forward to repell the common enemy. And further this deponant saith not. 
Elijah Bostwick
Capt.
Sworn this 11th day of February 1795 before W. B. Whiting
Jus. Peace}

(L L) The People of the State of New York
By the Grace of God Free and Independent;
To Lathrop Allen Esquire Greeting We reposing especial trust and confidence as well in your Patriotism, conduct and loyalty, as in your valour and readiness to do us good and faithful service; have appointed and constituted and by these presents Do appoint and constitute you the said Lathrop Allen Captain of a company in a Regiment raised for the defence of the Frontiers of this State, whereof John Harper Esquire is Lieutenant Colonel Commandant You are therefore, to take the said company into your charge and care as Captain thereof, and duty to exercise the officers and soldiers of that Company in arms, who are hereby commanded to obey your as their captain and you are also to observe and follow such orders and directions as you shall
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from time receive from our General and Commander in Chief of the Militia of one said State, as any other your Superior officer, according to the Rules and Discipline of war, in pursuance of the trust reposed in you; and for so doing, this shall be your Commission, for and during our good pleasure, to be signified by our Council of appointment. In Testimony whereof We have caused our Seal for military, commissions to be hereunto affixed. 
Witness our trusty and well beloved George Clinton Esquire our Governor of our State of New York, General and Commander in Chief of all militia and admiral of the navy of the same by and with the advice and consent of our said Council of appointment, at Knigston the eleventh day of May in the fourth year of our Independence and in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred and eighty. Passed the Secretary's Office, By his Excellency's command Robt. Harpur. Depy. Secretary.
Geo. Clinton

State of New York
Secretary's Office}
I have compared the preceding with certain original Documents on file in this office viz The petition of Lathrop Allen, Certificate of Isaac Bogert, Certificate of John Harper, Deposition of Elijah Bostwick and commission of Lathrop Allen and do certify that the same are correct Transcripts therefrom and of the Whole of said Documents —The same were deposited in this Office by order of the Housse of Assembly of this state 
Given under my hand & the Seal of this iffice the 15th.. day of September A.D. 1838
Archd. Campbell
Dep. Secretary
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[stamp] PENSION OFFICE US SEP 8 1922
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1 standard envelope enclosed 

554 Mt. Vernon Road
Newark, Ohio
September 7, 1922.
Burean of Pensions
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs:-
Have you a pension
record of a Revolutionary
soldier, Lathrop or Lothrop Allen,
Private and Serg. 2nd New York
May to Dec 1775 [illegible] Dec 1775
5 March 1776
Captain in Elmore's Reg.
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you do not have a pension
Record. where would I
be apt to find record of
service?

Very sincerely yours
Ruby Castle Davis
Mrs. Homer J. Davis
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Connecticut Militia, April 1776 to April 1777- Died August 12th 1826
To whom was pension paid? Is there a record of his children? Where was he resident at time of beginning pension? Where resident at time of death? (Probably New York State) All the information you have will be very gratefully recieved - Jf