Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 4402, John Hoover, Penn.
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Penn      Hoover, John    S4402
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Ohio. - 7794
John Hoover
of Franklin in the State of Ohio
who was a Private in the Company commanded
by Captain Cole of the Regiment commanded 
by Col. Greenwalt in the Penn
line for six months

{illegible} to pay.  {illegible} letters to C. Fay & P. M. May 6, 1837 – 
May 6 1837

Date of death not in A.D.

Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio.
at the rate of 20 Dollars 00 Cents per annum 
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 5th day of April 1833 and sent to [illegible] J. R. Swan, Columbus, Ohio.

Arrears to the 4th of Mar. 1833 40.00
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4. Sept 1833 10.00
$50.

Revolutionary Claim,
act June 7, 1832

Recorded by Wm R. Palmer, Clerk,
Book E Vol. 8. - Page eleven.
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13433-7794
John Hoover

Adm for 6 months
from 1776 - $250

G & J R Swan
Columbus
Ohio
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Brief in the case of John Hoover of Jackson Township
County of Franklin in the State of Ohio
(Act 7th June, 1832)

1.  Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?    Court
2.  If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3.  How old is he?  77
4.  State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

Period
volunteered summer In 1776
volunteered Dec. following 1776

Duration of Service
Years,     Months,     Days
                    3
                    3
Rank
As a
Private


Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served
Gen
Col Greenwald                   Penna Militia
Capt Thomas Cope
Major Abm Latshaw
Capt Frederick Stover

5.  In what battles was he engaged? 
      {Blank}

6.  Where did he reside when he entered the service?
     Hanover township Lancaster County, Penna

7.  Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?
       Traditionary

8.  Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
      No

Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the ease above mentioned.

Chas G Wilcox Examining Clerk
22nd Feby 1833
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The State of Ohio
Franklin County

On this 29th day of September in the year 1832 personally appeared in open court before the court of common pleas in and for said county in the state of Ohio John Hoover a resident of Jackson township in said county aged seventy seven years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed Jun 7 1832

He was born at Lebanon Lancaster County in the State of Pennsylvania on the 19th February 1755  No record of his age in his possession.  It is contained in a Bible in the possession of George Pechinstone near Harrisburgh Pennsylvania. Resided in Hanover township Lancaster County Pennsylvania when in the summer of 1776 being then 20 years of age volunteered in the militia for three months in the company of Capt. Thomas Copehavener Major Abraham Latshaw Col Greenwald - No of Regiment not recollecting. Marched first to Philadelphia thence to Trenton thence to Princeton thence to Paulus Hook and continued there until time expired. There Michael Myers & Anthony Long privates in company and Leut. was at Paulus Hook when the British frigates lay at New York Bay.

In December following at Lebanon Lancaster County Pennsylvania volunteered for three months in militia in Capt Frederick Stover - May - Abraham Latshaw
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marched through Reading and stationed near Middlebrook and New Brunswick. The British men lying at the New Brunswick - deep snow two or three feet - continued there till time expired.  Could not at that time talk English and speaks it now very inperfectly. Returned to Lebanon. Has resided in Franklin County Ohio about twenty five years and always resided at the same place in said county but the township divided - it is now Jackson.  Came to Franklin County from Cynthianna County Kentucky where he resided about nine years. Removed from Pennsylvania to Kentucky - 
Never recd any written discharge - 
He has no documentary evidence and knows of no person who can testify to his services.

He hereby relinquishes all claim whatever (?) pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state

Sworn to and subscribed on this day and year aforesaid

his mark
John H Hoover

Att
A McDowell
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May 19, 1949

John Hoover
S 4402
BA — 7/ {illegible}

Ethel Boal
Malta, Ohio

Dear Madam

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Hoover of Pennsylvania.

You are furnished herein the record of John Hoover as found in the pages of pension claim S4402 based upon his service in the Revolutionary War. 

John Hoover wasw born February 19, 1755 in Lebanon, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania; the name of his parents were not given.

While residing in Hanover Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, he volunteered sometime in the summer of 1776 and served three months as private in Captain Thomas Copenhaver's company, Colonal Greenwalt's Pennsylvania regiment. He volunteered in December, 1776, at Lebanon, Pennsylvania, and served three months as private in Captain Frederick Stover's company, under Major Abraham Latshaw, in the Pennsylvania troops.

After the Revolutionary War, the soldier returned to Lebanon, Pennsylvania, he moved from Pennsylvania to Kentucky and resided in Cynthiana, that state, about nine years, and moved about 1806 to Franklin County, Ohio. 

John Hoover was allowed pension on his application executed September 29, 1833, while residing in Jackson Township, which was a part of Franklin Township then divided. He had lived in the same place since moving to Franklin County, Ohio.
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It is not shown in the claim whether John Hoover ever married.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of the person paid and possibly the date of death of John Hoover, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:

John Hoover
Certificate # 7794
Issues April 5, 1833
Rate $20 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Ohio Agency.

Very truly yours

A. D. MILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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4402 [handwritten]
Revlnary [Revolutionary] check mark [handwritten]
INVALID.
File No. 4402
John Hoover [handwritten]
Pri. Pa. Line [Private Pennsylvania Line] [handwritten]
Act: June 7, 1832
Index:-Vol. A, Page 176
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1906 Oct. 20 Hist to W. L. Curry. C [handwritten]
1914. May 23, History to Mrs.
Nancy C Morrow: letter in
S.F. 2641. Andrew Huber M.B.H
1935, Sept. 27 - Hist to Mrs. Elen Hoover
Montgomery - M.L.B.
1935 Nov. 6 - Hist. to Mrs A J
Berger - MLB
1937 - Jan. 19 - Hist to Mrs. John Rings [illegible] MCB
1940, May 10 - Hist to Ethel Booker [illegible] MCB
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of [handwritten] John Hoover which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? [handwritten] Yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? [handwritten] Yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, [illegible due to crease] assigned for his not doing so? {Blank}

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? [handwritten] Yes

V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine what amount of pension he is entitled? [handwritten] Yes

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? [handwritten] Yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? [handwritten] Yes

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? [handwritten] Yes

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? [handwritten] Yes

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? [handwritten] Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? [handwritten] No

XII. If the clerygman’s affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? [handwritten] No

XIII. if the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one lying witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? [handwritten] Yes

XIV. If the applicant’s name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? {Blank}
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? {Blank}
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?  {Blank}

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant’s service? {Blank}

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? [handwritten] Yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 
Fifth
Seventh
_________
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For ---- year and ---- months, and ---- days, I served as a ---- For ---- months and ---- days, I served as a ----; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served; and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase [begin italics] about three or four months [end italics] is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.

QUERE XIV. [begin italics] Proof of Service. [end italics]
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

QUERE XVI. [begin italics] Mode of authenticating papers. [end italics]
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
[hand pointing to the right] In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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We Samuel White and Stewart White both residing in Franklin township Franklin County Ohio do certify that we have been acquainted with John Hoover who has subscribed and sworn to the above  declaration about twenty five years last past [crossed out] and have during that time resided within about two miles of him. That said Hoover speaks very broken English. That it is reputed and [circled] believed among said Hoovers neighbours that he was a soldier of the Revolution and we concur in that opinion. Said Hoover has always sustained the character of an honest and moral man, and they [crossed out] believe the most implicit confidence can be placed in his statements -
Sworn to and subscribed this day and year aforesaid
Stewart White
James White

And the court do hereby declare their opinion after this investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatives prescribed by the war department that the above named Applicant was a soldier of the revolution and served as he states, And the court do further certify that a majority of this to wit Samuel G Flennikin  William McElvain and Anna Bultles are normally acquainted with said Stewart White and Samuel White. That they sustain an unblemished character are residents of Franklin Township in said Franklin
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County. The court further certify that they are of opinion
from the personal appearance of said Hoover that he is of
the age which he declares he is in the within declaration
and it appears to the court that there is no clergyman
residing in the neighbourhood of said Hoover 
The following members of said court to wit William
McElvain and Samuel G Flenniken are personally
acquainted with said Hoover and concur in the statements
of said Stewart and Samuel White.
I Abraham J McDowell clerk
of the court of common pleas in and for said
county of Franklin do hereby certify that this
foregoing contains the original proceedings of
the said court in the matter of the application
of John Hoover for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand and seal of office this 29th day of
September AD1832
A McDowell Clerk [handwritten initials]
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7794 Mar 23
John Hoover

[stamp] Columbus O. Mar 18 

Free

[written sideways] J L Edwards Esq.  
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
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Columbus March 17, 1837

J L Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions 

The endorsed pension claim of Mr. John Hoover was returned by the agent for paying pensions in Cincinnati with this endorsement on the back “This voucher must be sent to the Commissioner of Pensions for his special directions authorising the payment, before payment can be made, because the the pensioner has failed to claim his pension for more than one year. There are late regulations.”
Mr. Hoover did make out his voucher on the 4th of September last but did not succeed in obtaining payment, owing to some informality in the papers. 
At the request of the Mr. Hoover I have sent on the enclosed paper for your directions what can be done to enable him to obtain his money

Very Respectfully Yours
C Fay
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Grove City, Pa.
Sept 19, 1935

Veterans Administration,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Administrator: Will you kindly send me the Revolutionary War Records, also any family data you may have on file, of John Hoover who served in a Pennsylvania militia and was pensioned April 5, 1833. Thanking you for the favor 
I am
Respectfully yours
(Mrs.) Edna Hoover Montgomery
224 West Main St
Grove City, Pa.
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President
Dr. E. D. Gardiner
Toledo

Treasurer
Stimpson G. Harvey Toledo

Registrar
William L. Curry - Columbus

Historian
William H. Hunter - Chillicothe

Chaplain
Clement G. Martin Fostoria 

Vice President
Henry A. Williams
Columbus

Ohio Society 
[illustration of war medal]
Sons of the American Revolution
Office of the Registrar
Columbus

Secretary
William A. Taylor
Columbus

Board of Management
E.D. Gardiner - - - Toledo
Isaac F. Mack - - Sandusky
Henry A. Williams - - Columbus
William A. Taylor - - Columbus
William L. Curry - - Columbus
Moulton Houk - - - Toledo
William H. Marfatt - - Cleveland
C.O. Brigham - - - Toledo
Hugh L. Runkle - - - Kenton
George R. Prout - - Springfield
George N. Bierce - - Dayton
W.R. Gilbert - - - Cleveland 

Executive Committee
Dr. E. D. Gardiner - - Toledo
Isaac F. Mack - - - Sandusky
William A. Taylor - - Columbus
William L. Curry - - Columbus
Henry A. Williams - - Columbus

Oct 10, 1906. 
[stamp] 
O.W. & N. DIV.
OCT 13 1906
FILES

Hon. V. Warner,
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:-
A man by the name of John Hoover served in the Revolutionary War and enlisted from Pennsylvania. He died in Franklin County, Ohio about the year 1840. He was granted a pension and I will be pleased if you can send me a certificate of his service in the Revolutionary War.
I write you by request of his great grand-son, who resides at Grove City, Franklin County, Ohio.
Thanking you in advance for this courtesy, I remain,

Yours very truly,
[signature]
William L Curry
State Registrar.
[stamp]
Pension U.S. OFFICE
Oct 12 1906
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Arkansas City, Kansas
Box 379
Oct. 22nd, 1935


Veteran's Administration,
Pension Record --Revolutionary War Section-
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:- 
Will you kindly advise me of the Revolutionary War Pension granted to JOHN [underlined] HOOVER [handwritten] OK of Franklin Co Ohio who served from Pennsylvania and died in Franklin County, Ohio? (Pensioned about 1833, and believe he was a resident of Ohio at time the pension was granted). I am especially anxious to learn of all family data given in this application or granted claim-- as wife, children and grandchildren etc.
Thank you most kindly for this information,

Respectfully
Ruth Norris Berger
[signature]
Mrs A.J. Bergen 

[stamp]
REC'D
OCT 26 1836
MAIL SUB-DIV
VETS APM
READER [illegible] 4
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Mrs. John Rings
70 So. Burgess Ave

Columbus

[stamp]
Received Jan 12 1937
MAIL SUB-DIV
READER 12
VETS ADM

Veterans Administration:

Will you kindly give me whatever information you may have on the Pension Records: of the following soldiers who are listed as receiving pensions & were living in Franklin County: Ohio:

John Hutt: in the Revolutionary War, came to Ohio in 1807 & died in Hamilton Township, was a pensioner from Franklin County.

John Hoover: In the Revolutionary War as a private from Pennsylvania - Pensioned April 5, 1833. Died near Grove City, Franklin County, Ohio.

Thanking you very kindly for whatever records you may send me,

I am respectfully, 

Blanche Rings
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Malta. O. Mar. 29-40

Pension Department
Washington D.C.

Dear Sir -
Please send me the revolutionary war record of John Hoover, from Hanover Co. Penn.

Respectfully
Ethel Boal
Malta Ohio

[stamp] 
Received Apr 1 1940
MAIL SUB-DIV
Reader No. 30
VETS ADM
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REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION.
3-525
---
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
WASHINGTON, D.C., ----, 19---

In reply to your request of --- received --- for a statement of the military history of [handwritten] John Hoover a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his ([crossed out] or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. 
[handwritten] S. 4402.
---
Dates of Enlistment or Appointment | Length of Service | Rank | Officers under whom service was rendered | Captain | Colonel | State
Summer 1776 | 3 mos. | Pvt | Thomas Copehaven | Greenwalt | Penn
Dec. 1776 | 3 mos | - | Frederick Stover | Major Abraham Latshaw | "

Battles engaged in, [handwritten] none stated
Residence of soldier at enlistment, [handwritten] Hanover Township, Lancaster Co. Penn.
Date of application for pension, Sept 29, 1832. His claim was allowed.
Residence at date of application, Jackson Township, Franklin Co. Ohio.
Age at date of application, born Lebanon, Lancaster Co. Penn. Feb 19. 1755. 
Remarks: [handwritten] There is no family date on file

Respectfully,

Commissioner.

6-2856
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Mrs. John Rings
70 South Burgess Avenue
Columbus, Ohio 

JOHN HOOVER
S. 4402
BA-J/MLB

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of John Huff who came to Ohio in 1807 and died in Hamilton Township, and John Hoover who served from Pennsylvania, was pensioned April 5, 1833 and died near Grove City in Franklin County, Ohio.

Because of the large number of requests for records of Revolutionary War soldiers, and the limited clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is not possible to comply in full with each request for Revolutionary War data. The record of John Hoover is furnished - herein as found in pension claim, S. 4402, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War. 

John Hoover was born February 19, 1756, in Lebanon, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania; the name of his parents are not stated.

While residing in Hanover Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, he volunteered sometime in the summer of 1776 and served three months as private in Captain Thomas Copenhaver's company, Colonel Greenwalt's Pennsylvania regiment. He volunteered in December, 1776, at Lebanon, Pennsylvania, and served three months as private in Captain Frederick Stover's Pennsylvania company, under Major Abraham Latshaw. 

After the Revolutionary War the soldier returned to Lebanon, Pennsylvania; he moved from Pennsylvania to Kentucky and resided in Cynthiana, in that state, for about nine years, and moved about 1808 to Franklin County, Ohio.

John Hoover was allowed pension on his application executed September 19, 1832, while residing in Jackson Township, which was a part of Franklin Township which was divided. He had lived in the same place since moving to Franklin County, Ohio.
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In order to obtain date of last payment of pension, the name and address of the person paid and possibly the date of death of John Hoover, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:

John Hoover
Certificate #7704
Issued April 5, 1833
Rate, $20 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act June 7, 1832
Ohio Agency. 

Very truly yours

A.D. Miller
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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November 6, 1955

JOHN HOOVER
S. 4402
BA-J/MLB

Mrs A. J. Berger
Box 379
Arkansas City, Kansas

Dear Madam: 

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Hoover who served from Pennsylvania, was pension and died in Franklin County, Ohio. 

You are furnished below the record of John Hoover as found in the papers on file in pension claim, S. 4402, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.

John Hoover was born February 19, 1755, in Lebanon, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania; the names of his parents are not stated.

While residing in Hanover Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, he volunteered sometime in the summer of 1776, and served three months as private in Captain Thomas Copenhaver's company, Colonel Greenwalt's Pennsylvania regiment. He volunteered in December, 1776, at Lebanon, Pennsylvania, and served three months as private in Captain Frederick Stover's Pennsylvania company, under Major Abraham Latshaw.

After the Revolutionary War the soldier returned to Lebanon, Pennsylvania; he moved from Pennsylvania to Kentucky and resided in Cynthiana, in that state, for about nine years, and moved about 1808 to Franklin County, Ohio. 

John Hoover was allowed pension on his application executed September 29, 1832, while residing in Jackson Township, which was part of Franklin Township which divided. He had lived in the same place since moving to Franklin County, Ohio.
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In order to obtain date of last payment of pension, the name and address of the person paid and possibly the date of death of this soldier, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:

John Hoover
Certificate #7704
Issued April 5, 1833
Rate, $20 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act June 7, 1832
Ohio Agency. 

Very truly yours

A.D. Miller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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September 27, 1955
John Hoover
S. 4402
BA-J/MLB

Mrs. Edna Hoover Montgomery 
226 West Main Street 
Grove City, Pennsylvania 

Dear Madam: 
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of John Hoover who served from Pennsylvania, and was pensioned April 5, 1833. 

The record of John Hoover follows as obtained from the papers on file and pension claim, S. 4402, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.

John Hoover was born February 9, 1755, in Lebanon Lancaster county, Pennsylvania; the names of his parents are not stated. 

While residing in Hanover Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, he volunteered sometime in the summer of 1776 and serve three months as private in Captain Thomas Copenhaver’s Company, Colonel Greenwalt’s Pennsylvania regiment. He volunteered in December, 1776, at Lebanon, Pennsylvania, and served three months as private in Captain Frederick Stover‘s Pennsylvania company, under Major Abraham Latshaw .

After the Revolutionary War, the soldier returned to Lebanon, Pennsylvania; he moved from Pennsylvania to Kentucky, and resided in Cynthiana, in that state, for about nine years, and moved about 1808 to Franklin County, Ohio. 

John Hoover was allowed pension on his application executed September 29, 1832, while residing in Jackson Township, which was a part of Franklin Township which divided. He had lived in the same place since moving to Franklin County, Ohio. No family data are shown. 

In order to obtain date of last payment of pension, the name
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and address of the person paid and possibly the date of death of this soldier, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:

John Hoover
Certificate #7704
Issued April 5, 1833
Rate, $20 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act June 7, 1832
Ohio Agency. 

Very truly yours

A.D. Miller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator