Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W 4359, Samuel Turner, S.C.
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(3-1776)
SERVICE
S.C.
Turner, Samuel
Fanny
NUMBER
W4359
B.L. WT 17589-160-55 
CONTENTS
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North Carolina 23.957
Samuel Turner.
of Burke in the State of N. Car
who was a Pr: in the Company commanded
by Captain Dickson of the [blank]
commanded by [blank]
in the So Car line for 7 months -
Inscribed on the Roll of North Carolina
at the rate of 23 Dollars 33 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 day of Apr 34
and [word illegible, poss. Sent or Cert] Hon J. Graham - HR
Arrears to the 4th of Mar 34 | 70.00-
Semi-ani. allowance ending 4 Sept. [illegible] | 11.66
$81.66
Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832. 
Recorded by Nath Rice - Clerk.
Book C Vol. 6 1/2 Page 76.
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Restoration 2409
North Carolina
Fanny Turner widow of Samuel Turner
S Ca
who served in the Revolutionary war, as a private.
Inscribed on the [handwritten: Raleigh] at the rate of 23. dollars 33 cents per annum, to commence on the [struck out: 3d February, 1853.] [handwritten: 4th September 1860]
Certificate of Pension issued 27th day of May 1867 and sent to John Anderson 
Brindletown
Burke Co N.C.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 3, 1853, Page 218 Vol. [illegible]
J N Smith Clerk
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27.047           Act March 3/55
Fanny                   March 31/55
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Fanny Turner widow of 
Samuel Turner  Priv.
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S. C. Mil.

War of Revolution
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Ad 160 acres  Feb. 19/56

Boyton
Vol. T. page 156

Geo. C. Ames, Esqr
Present
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Alfred M. Finley
Marion
McDowell Co
North Carolina

[diagonally across left side of page]
No. 17589 iss. Feb 20/56

[notes on right side of page]
Cer. to A. M. Findley Aug 9/55
let.  to   "  "   "           "   29  "
N. C.
Feby 53  No 2409
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Fanny Turner
(wid. of Samual later priv. N.C. roll - act 1832)
Decr. &c. Act 3d Feby 1853

C.W. Bennett Atty
Present.
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State of N Carolina
County of McDowell On this six day of May A.D. 1853 personally
appeared before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace, in and for the
County and State aforesaid, James Reed
who being
first duly sworn says that he was acquainted with Samuel Turner
now deceased who was a Revolutionary Pensioner - That on the 10th day
of October A.D. 1825, he was an acting Justice of the Peace in
and for the County of Burke now McDowell and State of N Carolina and
that upon the 10th day of October A.D. 1825, he as such
Justice married the said Samuel Turner to Fanney Lackey
who was also known to him at the time. That since the date
of said marriage, which was in every respect in conformity to
law, the said Samuel & Fanney Turner, lived together as husband
and wife; that he died leaving her his widow and that
she is still his widow. and further that I am disinterested.
James Reed
Sworn to and subscribed before me
the day and year first above written
and I further certify that James Reed
is a credible and disinterested witness, and
that I am not interested in this claim as attorney or otherwise
Isaac A. Keel Justice of the Peace
State of N Carolina SS.
County of McDowell
I Saml J Neal Clerk of the Court
of Pleas & as quarter designs held in for said County do hereby certify that
Isaac A Keel Esq. before whom the foregoing affidavit was made &
to which his signature is affixed was at the time of so doing a Justice of
the Peace in and for said County duly commissioned and sworn.
And further that James Reed Esq. who has sworn to the
foregoing affidavit was on the 10th
day of October A.D. 1825.
a Justice of the Peace duly commissioned and sworn.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my
name & affixed my official seal this 7th day of May A,D. 1853
S. J. Neal Clerk
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State of No Carolina
County of McDowell
On this fourth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand
Eight hundred and fifty three before the subscriber a Judge of the Superior Court
of Law held in and for the County and State aforesaid, being a Court of Record,
personally appeared Mrs. Fanney Turner -- who is to me known as a resident of the town of
in the County of McDowell and State of North Carolina aged sixty three years, who
being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath, make the following declaration, in order to
obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the Act of Congress, approved 3d February A.D. 1853. viz:
That she is the widow of Samuel Turner --deceased, who was a private in
the war of the Revolution, and as such inscribed on the Pension Roll in Fayetteville,
N.C. at the rate of twenty three 33/100 Dollars per annum under act of 7th June 1832.
That she was not married to the said Samuel Turner prior to the 2d January
Eighteen hundred but at the time hereinafter mentioned. viz: --
She further declares that she was married to the said Samuel Turner -- on the
tenth day of October in the year Eighteen hundred and twenty five - as will
more fully appear by the proof hereto annexed: That her husband the aforesaid Samuel
Turner died on the Twenty fourth day of October in the year Eighteen hundred
and forty six -- She further swears that she is now a widow, and that she has
never before made any application for a Pension.
Subscribed & Sworn to before me the day and year first above
written, and I certify that I have no interest in the application
as attorney, agent or otherwise.
John W. Ellis
Judge

Fanny Turner
her X mark

I do hereby constitute and appoint Clement W. Bennett of Washington D.C. any time &
lawful attorney for the purpose of presenting this my application for a Pension, to attend to
the same while pending a judge, receive the certificate when issued and to do all things necessary
and proper, as fully as I could so were I personally present. Dated this 4th of May 1853
Witness, John W. Ellis
Judge

Fanny Turner
her X mark

State of No Carolina
County of McDowell
It is hereby certified that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited
before me the undersigned Judge of the Superior Court of Law
a Court of Record held in and for the said County that Samuel Turner, late
of said County, who was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States at the rate
of twenty three 33/100 Dollars per annum --
died on the twenty fourth day of October
Eighteen hundred and forty six and
that he left surviving him the following named widow and children, viz: Fanny Turner
(widow) Wilson Turner Susan Turner Richard Turner Priscilla Turner Polly
Turner James Turner William Turner and Jane Turner (children)
Witness my hand this fourth day of May
A.D. 1853.
John W. Ellis
Judge

State of North Carolina
County of McDowell
I do hereby certify that Hon. John W Ellis
whose genuine signature appears attached to the foregoing declaration
and certificate, was at the date of the same a Judge of the Superior Court of
Law held in and for said County (a Court of Record) duly
commissioned and sworn. Witness my hand and seal of said Court this
4th day of May A.D. 1853
A. Burgin
Clerk
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[The entire page is very faint and difficult to read.]

On this 11th day of April 1866 personally appeared before me 
Alfred M Finley Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions 
of the County of McDowell & State of North Carolina Wilson
Turner who being a resident of the County & State aforesaid
and duly by me sworn according to law upon his oath
says that he is the son of Fanny Turner who was a pensioner of 
the United States as well as the State of North Carolina at
[illegible]  He further states that he has four sisters
[illegible] Priscilla Portus[?] Susan Turner Polly Turner & Jane Turner
that all of the family named are and were loyal to the [illegible]
of the United States never any one of them sympathized with
or did in the rebellion that his mother Fanny Turner was
bitterly opposed to the War and considered it altogether [illegible]
[illegible]  She died in the County of McDowell
No. Carolina on the 31st of January 1865.  He further says that 
[next several lines illegible]

William Turner  X  his mark

Also personally appeared Moses G. Hoover & Aquilla Swan [?]
residents of the County & States aforesaid to me personally well acquainted
and whom I certify to be respectable and credible citizens and 
was by me sworn according to law and was upon their oath says
they are intimately acquainted with [illegible] the family of
of Fanny Turner was well acquainted with her when living
during the last years of her life.  She died
as memory serves them at the time or about the time mentioned
applicants [illegible] the 31st January 1865 and they add that 
of the allegations made by Wilson Turner the above
[illegible]

M G Hoover
Aquila Swan

Know all men by these presents that I Wilson Turner appoint 
[runs off page]
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Know all men by these presents that I Wilson Turner appoint John
Anderson of Rutherford County to ask and demand the money due
his mother from the United States as a pensioner who was last paid
on the fourth of March 1861 and whose Pension Certificate is here
with sent and that the money be sent in a manner so to the 
order of [illegible] who are entitled to it from the declaration above
and to be sent to the care of John Anderson my attorney hereby
certified & can perform any & all that my said attorney will do 
the [illegible]

M G Hoover
Aquila C Swan

Sworn to & subscribed to their mark made before me & I certify tat the 
declaration of Wilson Turner & his power of attorney was read to him and 
acknowledged to be his act and deed for the purpose therein stated
I further certify from my own personal knowledge that Fanny
Turner means of subsistence from March 1861 until her death
was limited that she was dependent upon her children who
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were in humbler circumstances for support   I further certify that from 
my own knowledge as well as the satisfactory evidence adduced
before me that Fanny Turner the aforesaid Pensioner died on or 
about the 31st of January 1865 as she resided near me for some
time before and up to her death and I certify that I am 
disinterested in the prosecution of this claim

[The next few lines are too faint to read.]

are the children of Fanny Turner who was a 
pensioner of the United States on the roll of Morganton [illegible] and all of whom are over
twenty one years of age  In testimony of which I subscribe my hand and 
seal of office this 12th day of April 1866

A M Findley Clerk


Know all men by these presents that we William Turner
Jane Turner Mary Turner [illegible] Turner & Priscilla Porter [?] 
children and heirs at law of Fanny Turner [illegible]
pensioner of the United States on the roll of Morganton [illegible]
constitute and appoint John Anderson of [illegible]
our true and lawful attorney to ask demand and [illegible]
any money found to be due our mother Fanny Turner and 
to do all things as we might do [rest of line illegible]
present hereby [rest of line illegible]
Attorney may lawfully do [rest of line illegible]
[illegible] this 12th day of April 1866

[several "marks" for signatures but mostly illegible]

In presence of 
M H Guinn [?]
R C Burgin [?]

I Alfred M Findley Clerk of the Court 
of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for the County
of McDowell & state of North Carolina
certify that Wm. Turner, Jane Turner, Wilson Turner
Mary Turner, Susan Turner & Priscilla
Porter [?] all to me well known acknowledged the aforesaid power of attorney
to be their act and deed for the purposes stated   In testimony
whereof I subscribed my hand and affixed my seal of office this
12th day of April 1866

A. M. Findley Clerk

[space left for a seal but not visible]


[date stamp]
DEPARTMENT 
OF THE 
INTERIOR 
Apr 20 1866
PENSION OFFICE
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State of North Carolina
McDowell County

On this 19th day of March 1855
Before me the undersigned a Justice of the Peace
duly authorized to administer oaths within and for the county and 
state aforesaid Personally appears Fanny Turner aged 65 years a resident
of the county of McDowell and State of North Carolina who being
first duly sworn according to law declares that she is the widow of 
Samuel Turner who was a private in the revolutionary war
and a pensioner of the United States inscribed on the pension list at 
the rate of twenty three dollars and thirty three cents per annum
She further states that she is a pensioner of the United States and 
has in her possession a Pension Certificate which she has this day
exhibited before me of which I certify the following is a true copy

Department of the Interior
Widows Pension

I certify that in conformity with the 2d Section of the 
act of February 3 1823  Fanny Turner widow of Samuel Turner
who was a private in the Revolutionary War is inscribed
on the Pension List at the rate of twenty three dollars and thirty
three cents per annum commencing on the 3rd of February 1853 and continuing for life unless she should again marry
in which case the pension is not payable after the time of 
such marriage - Given at the Department of the Interior 
this twelfth day of October one thousand eight hundred and
fifty three  

Examined & Countersigned

L P Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
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Upon the back of said Pension Certificate is the following
[illegible] -ment and payment to be made at Ashville by said Pension
agent for paying pensions in the agency of North Carolina payable 
on the 4th September and 4th March [illegible] in the pension office on the Roll of Pensioners under act February 3d
1823 Page 139 Vol A by J Getty Clerk
For further testimony or proof Reference can be had
to her papers on file in the pension office Department
which were filed in procuring the above Pension Certificate
She makes this declaration for the purpose of obtaining
the Bounty Land to which she may be entitled under
the act approved the 3d day of March 1835
She also declares that she has not received a warrant
in Bounty Land under this or any other act of Congress
nor made any other application there for
She hereby appoints Alfred M Finley of McDowell County
North Carolina her true and lawful attorney with power of
substitution to prosecute her claim for land
to receive the Certificate or warrant when issued and
to do all other acts necessary and proper in the premises

Fanny Turner  X  her mark

Sworn to subscribed and acknowledged before
me and
I hereby certify that I know the said Deponant
Fanny Turner and believe her to be the identical
Fanny Turner named in the forgoing Pension Certificate
and that he is of the age above stated and further that I am
not interested in this her claim as attorney or otherwise
Given under my hand and seal the day and year 
above written -

E. S. Hull J.P.
[seal]
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State of North Carolina
McDowell County

On this 10th day of March AD 1855
Before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace duly authorized to
administer oaths within and for the County and State aforesaid
Personally came Noah W Lackey and William Mitchal who are 
to me well known and who are credible witnesses and who being
by me duly sworn Depose and say that they are each well acquainted
with Fanny Turner the above applicant for Bounty Land
that they have known her for 30 years past that they know that [illegible]
believe and does believe that she is the identical person she 
represents herself to be and further that they were present and 
saw her [illegible] the foregoing declaration and make oath thereto
in due form of Law and that they deponents do reside 
in the State & County aforesaid

N W Lacky
Wm Mitchel  X  his mark

Sworn to and subscribed before me this 19th day of March 1835

E. S. Hull J.P.


State of North Carolina
McDowell County 

I Alfred M Findley Clerk of the Court of
Pleas and quarter Sessions for the county aforesaid certify that Edwin
S. Hull Esq before whom the foregoing declaration affidavits & power of
attorney was made and acknowledged and also has thereto subscribed
his name was at the time of so doing a Justice of the peace
and in the county aforesaid duly commissioned & sworn and that 
his signatures hereto are genuine -  In testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court
this 23 day of March AD 1835

A. M. Findley Clk

[no seal visible]
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6
Samuel Turner

4511.1213.17 [?]
specfn regd. [?]

Admitted
7 mo.
$23.33
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1 Feby '33

Hon. J Graham

Hon S P Carson
Ho Reps
[Carson's name was marked out]
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BRIEF in the case of Samuel Turner
of Burke County in the State of N. Carolina
(Act 7th June, 1832.)

1.  Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?  in open Court

2.  If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  [blank]

3.  How old is he?  about 70 years

4.  State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
----------------------------------------------------
Period.
volunteered [illegible] time not recollected
Duration of Service.  Years, Months, Days.
more than 3 and less than 6 months
Rank.  As a 
[blank]
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Gen.  
Capt. J [Jeremiah?] Dickson

Period.
volunteered (no date)
Duration of Service.  Years, Months, Days.
3 {months]
Rank.  As a 
[blank]
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Gen.  
Capt. Anthony Coulter

Period.
volunteered (no date)
Duration of Service.  Years, Months, Days.
"a few days and weeks at a time"
Rank.  As a 
Minute Man
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Gen.  
Capt. Dickson

5.  In what battles was he engaged?  none named

6.  Where did he reside when he entered the service?  Spartanburgh Dist. S. Carolina

7.  Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?  no evidence is addused 

8.  Are the papers defective as to form or authentication?  and if so, in what respect?  they are not attached according to the Regulations

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above
mentioned.

Wm. Gordon Examining Clerk.
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State of North Carolina
County of McDowell

On this 23 day of 
June 1866 Be it Known that before me A M Finley
Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for the County
and State aforesaid personally appeared John Anderson 
Administrator of the Estate of Fanny Turner decd and 
made oath in due form of law that he is administrator
of the estate of the identical Fanny Turner decd
who was a pensioner of the United States on the roll
at Morganton No. Ca. and to whom a pension certificate
was made for twenty three 33/100 Dollars per annum and
which certificate has been forwarded to Washington and
is now on file at the Pension Office.  He further states
that he understands and has not a doubt that said Fanny
was truly loyal to the Government of the United States up 
to the day of her death  does not believe she had the 
means nor the disposition to aid rebels in the late rebellion
he further swears that he believes and has good and 
sufficient reasons to think that the following named children 
of said Fanny Turner decd were all loyal to the Govt of
the United States to wit:  Wilson Turner, Susan Turner, Priscilla Porter [?]
Mary Turner, Jane Turner & William Turner
that the other two children to wit: Richard Turner and 
James turn having voluntary enlisted in the Confederate
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Service, he is unable to say what were their sympathies
he is perfectly satisfied that many did what was called
volunteering, that never would have raised arms against
the U. States, but being conscripted and being told
that if they did not volunteer they would be treated some
were induced to enlist.  what were the motives of the two named
children, declarant is unable to say.  as to administrators loyalty
the best evidence he has to offer is that in 1861 in the month of 
April, he was, for exposing his sentiment, which were hostile
to the rebellion and its cause, incarcerated in the dungeon
for felons in Morganton, exiled after his discharge by the Judge
without bringing him to the bar, hunted for, as if he had 
been a murderer, then from 1864 to March 1865 entertaining
five Lieutenants, five Captains, two Majors & one Adj. Gen.
who had escaped from the prisons of the South or from the 
cars taking them to the prisons of the South, all United
States officers having hid, warmed & fed them for days,
made arrangements for their safe arrival to the United States
line in Tennessee for which he has not a doubt, had it 
been found out the rebels would have taught him by a 
few yards of rope, what the word  Treason meant in the 
Constitution of the Confederate Govt, a word he is afraid
will be obsolete in the Constitution of the United States.
he further states that the foregoing named children are
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the only heirs at law of Fanny Turner decd, he respectfully
refers to the evidence on file at Washington sent with 
the application of Wilson Turner for a restoration of 
the name of his mother to the pension roll for 
the loyalty of his mother up to her death, and to the 
loyalty of all of the children of sd. Fanny, except
the two sons of hers that volunteered in the rebel service
He makes this declaration and the evidence 
herewith sent as to the Administratorship and as to the 
date of the death of sd. Fanny Turner, for the purpose
of having her name restored to the Pension Roll and 
to receive the pension money due to the loyal heirs,
of the decd.

John Anderson, Administrator

Also personally appeared C. L. S. Corpering and 
J H Gilkey residents of the County & State aforesaid
persons who I certify to be respectable & entitled to credit
who by me being sworn say that the signature above
is the genuine signature of John Anderson that with 
said Anderson they are well acquainted and believe
that all the allegations he makes in the foregoing as to 
his loyalty are strictly true.

C. L. S. Corpering
J. H. Gilkey
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I Alfred M Finley Clerk of the Court of  Pleas
and Quarter Sessions for the County of McDowell & 
State of No. Carolina certify that John Anderson
Admtr of the Estate of Fanny Turner was duly
sworn to the foregoing declaration and also 
C L S Corpering & J H Gilkey was duly sworn
to the foregoing affidavits, and I certify that applicant 
and affiants are most credible persons   In 
testimony whereof I subscribe my
name & Seal this 23 June 1866

A M Finley Clerk

[seal]

[stamp]
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR 
PENSION OFFICE

J. H. Barrett Esqr.
Commr of Pensions
Washington City 
D.C.

[illegible] By examining the papers sent about 10th Apl 1866 by Wilson Turner for restoration
of his mother Fanny Turners name to the pension roll, evidence will be found
that was written in this application to wit:  That the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions
for McDowell County No. Ca. is a Court of record.
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State of North Carolina
Burke County

On this 22nd day of October 1832
Personally appeared in open court before the 
Justices of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions
now sitting Samuel Turner, a resident of said County & State about 
Seventy years of age (has no record of 
his age & only can state from what he 
heard his parents say & from the age of his 
child which is now in her fiftieth year)
who being first duly sworn according to 
Law doth on his oath make the following 
declaration in order to obtain the benefit
of the Act of Congress passed June 7th
1832.  That he entered the service
of the United States under the following 
named officers & served as herein stated
(viz)  He first turned out as a volunteer
under Captn. Jeremiah Dickson in Spartenburg District S. Carolina to go against
the Cherokee Indians & guard against the 
Tories  He does not recollect the year nor will 
he state it but it was to the best of his recollection
before the battle at the 
Cowpens a few months.  We were marched
down upon Tiger River where we joined
Colo. John Thomas.  previous to joining Colo.
Thomas he was in a small skirmish under 
Captn. Dickson where a few guns were fired
as they thought at Tories, but it was soon 
found out that it was a detachment of their
own men, but fortunately no harm was
done.  After joining Colo. Thomas we were
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marched to Gowens Station on South Packolet
River where we remained for some [illegible-months?]
guarding the Country against incursions of 
the Indians & the depredations of the Tories
we were frequently sent out from the 
station on scouting parties to see & bring 
in information at this place I was discharged
by Majr. Gowen  he does not recollect
the precise time he served during that tour
but it was more than three & less than 
six months - Shortly after this there was 
a draft.  I would not be drafted but turn
out a volunteer again for three months
under Captn Anthony Coulter & was immediately
marched out to Senaca River &
placed under the command of General
Pickens.  He marched us against the Cherokees
& we had one battle or skirmish where 
we killed 5 indians & one white man  We
suffered greatly in this expedition with cold
& hunger.  We were marched back to 
long cane river & were dismissed by Genl
Pickens but no writen discharges were given
& we returned home.  I afterwards
volunteered as a Minute Man under
my old Capt. Jeremiah Dickson but was 
never called into service of any great
length or to go any distance from home
till the close of the War.  My two tours 
of duty kept me in service about eight
months.  The other service was only a
few days & weeks at a time which I
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cant sum up.  This is as far as my recollection
serves me at present   He hereby relinquishes every
claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on 
the Pension Roll of the Agency of any state
or of any state whatever.

Samuel Turner

Sworn to & subscribed the 
day & year aforesaid.
Test   J Erwin Clk


Burke County
No. Carolina

April 16th 1834
Samuel Turner in further explanation swears
that the foregoing statement is correct so far
as he recollects to be precise as to the time that he 
was in actual service  he prefers being under 
than over & will swear positively that he served in 
the first tour set forth in his Declaration 
at least four months & in his last he served
just three months.  He is confident that his 
whole service was over seven months but will 
place it at that term because he knows it 
to be under & therefore swears to it confidently
He also sends an affidavit which was made
in Spartenburg Dist. So. Carolina by and old
soldier with whom he served.  (one Solomon
Forest) who proves his service.  There needs an 
explanation which is very easy - He swears
that the time I served was "about two 
years"  He no doubt intends to include the time 
I served as a minute man under Captn. Dickson 
Colo. John Thomas & Colo. Collins.  I was a long 
time a volunteer minute man & frequently called
out upon alarms of danger, but was never out
at any one time long enough to make it 
worth charging for as I dont think I was out at

[written sideways along left side of page]
#2 part of the old mans own words down in explanation the words changing for thinks
me possibly & I put them down   Sam P. Carson
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at any one time as much as one month
& frequently not more than a week.  I only apply
for the two tours which I was for months in 
actual service as before stated
The reason why I have not returned these papers
sooner is because they have been in the possession
of Sam P. Carson for several months
& I was still expecting to be able 
to ride to his residence to get him
to do the writing but I am cripled 
& it is with great difficulty that 
I can ride and this is the first day
that I have been able owing to my 
circumstances to get to his house.
The reason why no clergyman has certified
was because there was none at court when 
I was first sworn who knew me or whom 
I knew - I live upwards of twenty miles
from the court house & had no neighbor
present who knew me any better than 
S P Carson & I expected him to certify to 
my credibility - 

Samuel Turner

Sworn to & subscribed
before me this 16th day of April 1834
Test J D Bradshaw JP

I do certify that J. D. Bradshaw is an acting
Justice of the peace in & for the county of Burke
& qualified Saml. Turner to the foregoing
affidavit in further explanation of his Declaration 
for a pension.  the distance to Morganton our Court House is
too great (16 miles) for the old man to travel to 
obtain the clerks certificate I therefore give 
my own as my handwriting is well known
in the pension office date above
Sam P Carson

[written sideways on page]
Declaration + Pension
of
Samuel Turner

admitted private
7 months
$23.33

Hon. J. Graham
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May 29, 1939.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

BA-J/ady
Samuel Turner
W. 4359

Mrs. C. G. Young
Proctor
Arkansas

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter relative to 
David Stinson, a Revolutionary War soldier, who 
drew pension in 1840 in York County, South Carolina,
and Samuel Turner, a Revolutionary War soldier,
who drew pension in 1840, in said county.

The Revolutionary War records of this office
fail to show a claim for pension or bounty land on 
file on account of the services of David Stinson, all 
spellings of the names searched.

The pension to which you refer may have been 
granted by the state from which the soldier served.

The record of the only Samuel Turner of South
Carolina that is found on the Revolutionary War
records of this office is furnished you herein as 
found in the papers on file in claims for pension 
and bounty land based upon his military service in 
that war.  

The date and place of birth and the names of 
the parents of Samuel Turner are not shown.

Samuel Turner enlisted in Spartanburg District,
South Carolina, a few months before the battle of 
Cowpens, and served about five months as private in 
Captain Jeremiah Dickson's Company, Colonel John
Thomas's South Carolina Regiment.  He then enlisted, 
served three months as private in Captain Anthony
Coulter's South Carolina Company, and was in battle 
with the Cherokee Indians.

He was allowed pension on his application
executed October 22, 1832, at which time he was aged
Page 25

about seventy years and a resident of Burke County, 
North Carolina.

He died October 24, 1846, in McDowell County, 
North Carolina.

Samuel Turner married October 10, 1825, in 
Burke County, North Carolina, Fanny Lackey.

Soldier's widow, Fanny Turner, was allowed 
pension on her application executed May 4, 1853, at 
which time she was aged sixty-three years and a 
resident of McDowell County, North Carolina.

Soldier's widow, Fanny Turner, applied for 
bounty land, March 19, 1855, at which time she was 
residing in McDowell County, North Carolina.  She 
was allowed one hundred sixty acres of bounty land,
on account of the services of Samuel Turner in the 
Revolutionary War, on warrant No. 17589, under the 
Act of March 3, 1855.

She died January 31, 1865, in McDowell County, 
North Carolina.  The following children were living
in 1866, Wilson Turner, then a resident of McDowell
County, North Carolina, Susan Turner, Richard Turner, 
Mary or Polly Turner, James Turner, William Turner,
Jane Turner, and Pricillla Portus.

In October 1832, soldier stated that his oldest 
child, was then in her fiftieth year, her name not 
designated.  

In 1833, one Henry Turner was residing in Spartanburg, 
South Carolina, his age and relationship not 
stated.

In 1844, one Noah W. Lacky or Lackey was living 
in McDowell County, North Carolina, his age and 
relationship not given.  There are no further family data.

For information in regard to the location of 
the land you should address The Commissioner of the 
General Land Office, Washington, D. C., and furnish
that official the number of the warrant, acreage, and 
the date of the act.

Very truly yours


A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator


[written on bottom of page with an arrow pointing between General Land Office and Washington]
Interior Dept.
Page 26

2,409
North Carolina  A.
Fanny Turner
widow of Samuel
who served in the Revolutionary
war, as a private
--------------------------------
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 
23 Dollars 33
Cents per annum, to commence on 
the 3d February, 1853.
----------------------------------
Certificate of Pension issued the 
12th day of October 1853
and sent to C. W. Bennett
Present
-----------------------------------
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
February 3, 1853, Page 139, Vol. A.


[note on left upper side of page]
Jno. Anderson  Apl. 24 66
Page 27

Marion No. Ca.   August 22nd 1855

Dear Sir

I received notice in due time of the claim of Mrs
Fanny Turner for bounty land under the act 3d March
1855 being suspended for the want of Record evidence of the 
service of her husband Samuel Turner   I do not 
know that I can furnish any [illegible] evidence of his service as 
his widow long since his [illegible] became acquainted with him
therefore cannot give any account of his service - I think
the service was performed in South Carolina - he was pensioned
under the act of 1832 and drew a pension up to his death
I would refer you to the proofs on file in obtaining
said pension - Fanny Turner his widow is now a pensioner
of the United States under the act 3d Feby. 1853 and in
obtaining said pension for her I filed the original pension
certificate of her husband Samuel Turner which I would
refer you.  Please let me hear from you again as soon
as possible

Yours Truly

A. M. Finley



J Minot - Comr. of Pensions
Page 28

Comptroller Generals Office
Columbia  Jany 12t 1856

No. 3780.
X.

Issued 21 Septr 1786 to Samuel Turner
for Sixteen Pounds 8/6 Stg for Militia Duty
in Roebuck Regt per act audited -
Prin £16"8"6 3/4
Int £1"3"

State of South Carolina
To Samuel Turner
For Militia Duty in Roebuck Regt since 
the fall of Charleston for Col. Anderson's 
return amtg to Currency   £115"0
                                Stg  £16"8"6 3/4

Recd Columbia 1st December 1790. from the 
comrs of Treasury an Indent No 3750 Book
X in full of the above account per order
James Martin.
£16"8"6 3/4.

pay to James Martin all my claims against 
the State of South Carolina for 
value received this 23rd October 1790
James Turner

Witness 
William McClarin

I do certify that the above is a true
copy of the original in this office
Thos P. Walker
Dep Comp Genl

(no seal of office)
Page 29

A. M. Finley
Marion, N.C.

Payment to be made at Asheville
by 
J. F. E. Hardy
Agent for paying Pensioners, in the 
Agency of North Carolina

Payable on the 4th September and 4th
March

Recorded in the Pension Office on the 
Roll of Pensioners under act February 
3d, 1853, Page 139. Vol. A

G. T. Getty Clerk

[date stamp]
DEPARTMENT 
OF THE 
INTERIOR 
Apl 20 1868 [6?]
PENSION OFFICE
Page 30

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.
WIDOW'S PENSION.
-----------------------------

I certify that in conformity with the 2d section of the act of February
3, 1853,
Fanny Turner
widow of Samuel Turner, 
who was a private in the revolutionary war,
is inscribed on the pension list at the rate of Twenty three
dollars and thirty three cents per annum, commencing on the 
3d of February, 1853, and continuing for life, unless she should again 
marry; in which case the Pension is not payable after the time of such
marriage.

Given at the Department of the Interior,
this twelfth day of October
one thousand eight hundred and fifty three.

R McClelland
Secretary of the Interior.

Examined and Countersigned.

L. P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions.
Page 31

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which these
answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of 
Samuel Turner which require further proof or explanation.

I.  Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?  yes

II.  Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?  yes

III.  If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason
assigned for his not doing so?

IV.  Has the declarant mentioned the period of periods of the war when he served?  no

V.  *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he 
served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension 
he is entitled?  no
Each term should be particularly stated as the regulations require

VI.  Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?  yes

VII.  Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of 
June 7, 1832?  yes

VIII.  Has the Court given their opinion?  yes 

IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate?  yes

X.  Is the Clerk's seal affixed?  And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished
from any other seal?  yes
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2

XI.  Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to 
their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary 
service?  No  there was no clergyman at 
court when the original preceding were here  Sam P Carson

XII.  If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not 
obtaining it?  No

XIII.  If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one
living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?  No

XIV.  †If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service has he produced a witness 
or witnesses as to his service?  
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, 
certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?  [blank]
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the
regulations direct?  [blank]

XV.  Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age,
as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?  [blank]

XVI.  ‡Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?  No

XVII.  Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? [blank] And, 
if not, which of them is not so answered?  No

------------------------------------
EXPLANATORY NOTES.

*QUERE V.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how
long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A.B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he
cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection
he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For -----
year-----months, and -----days, I served as a --------
For -----months
and ---- days, I served as a -----; and for such service I claim a pension.
Page 33

3

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served,
and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the
pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite,
and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some persons who apply for pensions
merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the 
officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable.
It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration 
of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the
applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either
in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not 
employed in any civil pursuit.

†QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.

In any case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must 
prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of 
the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the
regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths
must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate
must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

‡QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.

In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not
written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the 
certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass
under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly
attached to the certificate.
☞In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of 
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the 
certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Page 34

J. L. Edwards Esqr will please forward
the affidavit of Solomon Forrester which 
he will find on the papers to Honble W
Clowny or W R Davies of the So. Ca. Delegation
The object he will see from a note of mine
on the papers & oblige his Friend

Sam P Carson


[written sideways on right side of page]
Samuel Turner
Page 35

State of North Carolina
McDowell County

Third Monday in June
AD 1866 Being the 15th day of said month -
Be it known that a Court of Pleas and 
quarter Sessions was opened and held for the county
aforesaid at the Court House in Marion present
are presiding the worshipful Justices Court
S. Bulin Erwin
Wm A Conley
Robert H Garrin [Gwinn?]
At which said Term the following record
was made

On motion John Anderson is 
appointed administrator upon the Estate of 
Fanny Turner late of this county and that 
he give bond and surety in the same
of Two hundred Dollars - Bond executed
with Alfred M Finley security which said 
bond is accepted by the court and he was
duly sworn according to Law and Letters of 
administration issued to him therefor


State of North Carolina
McDowell County

I Alfred M Finley
Clerk of the Court of Pleas and quarter Sessions
for the county aforesaid Do hereby certify that 
that the foregoing writing contains a truely
copy of the record showing the appointment 
of John Anderson administrator upon the Estate
of Fanny Turner correctly copyed from the 
original record now in my office
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto
Page 36

subscribed my name and affixed the 
seal of said Court this 23 day of 
June 1866

A. M. Finley Clerk

[seal]

[date stamp]
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
[date illegible]
PENSION OFFICE
Page 37

State of North Carolina
County of Hertford  ss.

I certify that the 
examination of Fanny Turner by me in 
McDowell County to a declaration filed 
in the pension Department at Washington was made in open court -

In open Court of 
Hertford  Sept 29th 1853
John W. Ellis
Judge of Superior Courts
of Law & Equity -


State of North Carolina
County of Hertford

I John 
A. Vann Clerk of the Superior Court of 
law of Hertford County certify that 
John W. Ellis whose name is signed
to the above certificate is one of the 
Judges of the Superior Court of Law & Equity 
for North Carolina.  Given under
my hand & the seal of my office,
at office in Winton this the 
29 day of Sept 1853

J A Vann Clk

[no seal seen]
Page 38

Washington
May 14, 1853.

Honl. L. P. Waldo 
Commr. of Pensions

Sir.

I have the honor to enclose herewith
the application of Mrs. Fanny Turner widow of 
Samuel Turner deceased (who was a pensioner on the N.C.
roll, act 1832) for the benefits of the act of 3d Feby. 1853.

Very Respectfully
Your Obt Servt [obedient servant]
C. W. Bennett
Page 39

State of No. Carolina
McDowell County

I Alfred M Finley
Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions of 
the County of McDowell & State aforesaid
certify that satisfactory evidence has been 
exhibited on this 23rd day of June 1866 to said
Court that Fanny Turner was a Pensioner
of the United States on the roll at Morganton
[illegible] at the rate of $23 33/100 Dollars per
annum was a resident of the County of 
McDowell State of North Carolina and 
died in the aforesaid County on the 31st
day of January 1865  that she left Eight
children surviving her, who are the only heirs
at law of said Fanny Turner their names
are as follows To wit:  Wilson Turner, Susan Turner, 
Priscilla Portes, Mary Turner, Jane Turner, William 
Turner also Richard Turner & James Turner.
In Testimony whereof I subscribe
my name and affix my seal 
of office the day above written

A. M. Finley Clerk

[seal]
Page 40

Washington  Feby 13 1856

Hon J Minot

Sir

Enclosed you will find
the Certificate of the Comptroller of South
Carolina, showing the services of Samuel
Turner in support of the claim of 
his widow Fanny Turner for Bounty 
Land under the act 3 March 1855
No 27048 suspended for the [illegible] proof of 
service

Very Respectfully
your obt Sert [obedient servant]
Geo C. Ames
Page 41

Marion McDowell Cty No Ca  March 20 1855

Dear Sir

I herewith send you the Declaration of Mrs Polly [Crawley?]
& five others for Land Bounty under act of March 1855

A. M. Finley



L. P. Waldo, Comr. of Pensions
Page 42

Washington
Octr. 6. 1853

Honl. L. P. Waldo
Comr of Pensions 

Sir

I have the honor to enclose
herewith a certificate of Honl. John W. Ellis Judge of the 
Superior Court &c that the declaration of Mrs. Fanny Turner
of No. Ca. for the benefit of the act of 3d Feby last, now on the 
suspended files of your office, was made before him in 
open Court.

Very Respectfully
Your Obt Servt [obedient servant]
C. W. Bennett
Page 43

State of North Carolina
Burke County

I James Reed presiding Justice of 
the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for the County
and State aforesaid do hereby declare that my opinion
that after the investigation of the matter and after putting
the interrogatories presented by the war department that 
the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier 
and served as he states.  And I further certify that 
[blank] who signed the preceding
certificate is a resident in the County of Burke and 
that [blank] credible person and that [blank] statement is 
entitled to credit.  Given under my hand and seal
this 23rd day of October 1832

Jas. Reed  Pr Justice [seal]


State of North Carolina
Burke County

I James Erwin Clerk of the Court of 
pleas and Quarter Sessions for the County and State aforesaid
do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original
procedings of the said Court in the matter of the 
application of Samuel Turner for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set
my hand and seal of office done at 
office in Morganton this 23d day of 
October AD 1832

Test  J Erwin Clerk

[seal]
Page 44

I certify that I have been acquainted with 
Samuel Turner the applicant who swore to 
& subscribed the Declaration for a pension to
which this is appended  I promised him at
the Court when the original proceedings 
were had that I would certify to the Dept.
as to his credibility &c  I [illegible] that I 
failed to do so while at Washington City but
know [now] most willingly state That during my
acquaintence with him which has been 
eight or ten years I have never heard his veracity
questioned but have understood & believed
him to be entitled to full credit on oath
I further state that sd. Turner was sworn 
in open court in my presence & that the
Clerk made out the within certificate upon 
the original Declaration but 
did not append it to the Declaration as 
the regulations of the Dept. requires - I now 
append it with wafers [a glue] myself
April 16th 1834

Sam P Carson
Page 45

Fanny Turner   Samuel
married 10 Oct. '25
verified by 
the Justice who 
married them
died 24 Oct 1846
G. C.
Page 46

Revy  WIDOW, &c.
------------
File No. 4359
Fanny Turner
widow
Samuel Turner
Pri. Rev. War
------------
Act:  Feb. 3, 1853
Index: - Vol. M, Page 285
[Arrangement of 1870.]


[note on upper right side of page]
1939 May 29. Hist. to Mrs. C. G. 
Young A.D.Y.
Page 47

Proctor Ark.
Mar. 31, 1939

Veterans Bureau
Washington D.C.

Gentlemen;

Will you please send me the Rev. Pension record of 
David Stinson Esq. who drew pension in York Co S.C. in 1840.

Also of Samuel Turner Esq, same County and States and who 
also drew Pension in 1840.

Thanking you for the above information,
I am sincerely yours,

Mrs. C. G. Young
Proctor Ark.

[date stamp]
RECEIVED
APR 5 1939
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS ADM
READER [illegible]

[note on upper right corner of page]
Rev. & 1812 V.
Page 48

Brindleton Burke Co. No Ca
Apl 12th 1866

To the Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City

Sir,

Herewith I send the claim 
of Wilson Turner for Pension due his mother
Fanny Turner at her death.
Please address me 
Brindleton Burke Cy
No. Ca.

Very Respectfully
Your obt Servt [obedient servant]
John Anderson 

[date stamp]
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR 
[remainder illegible]
Page 49

Bruidleton No Ca
Burke County
J. H. Barrett Esq June 28th 1860
Sir, Herewith is sent the Claim of the Administrator of the Estate of Fanny Turner, He would respectfully refer the Commissioner to the papers on file sent by Wilson Turner for a restoration of his mothers name to the Pension Roll for widows that the Court of Pleast & Quarter Sessions of McDowell County No. Ca, is a Court of record. I omitted [illegible], it to be in my declaration, hence please examin the papers within and the evidence will be satisfactory, [illegible] Address [illegible]
Bruidleton, Burke Co No Ca
John Audison
Auditor
Page 50

Brief in the case of Fanny Turner, widow of Samuel Turner McDowell County and State of North Carolina act 3d February 1853
Claim, ("original," or "for increase.") [or for increase marked out]
Proof exhibited, (if original.)
Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance. Husband was a pensioner under the act of June 7, 1832, at $23.33/100 per annum. Marriage (Oct 10, 1825) proved by the affidavit of the Magistrate who performed the ceremony. His official character duly shown. (If for increase.) Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?
C. W. Bennett Esq
Present
Name and residence of Agent
R Geddes
Examining Clerk.
Page 51

[Page Blank]
Page 52

17.589

160 acres
Page 53

Pension Office
Oct 8, 1853
Sir, Please certify the time to which the within named pensioner was paid; and if in your power, the date of his death.
Very respectfully, [illegible] [illegible] [illegible]
S. Cale
For the Commission
F Burt Esq
3dAuditor
[illegible]
(See other side.)
Page 54

Samuel Turner, Oct 7 to June 1832, $23.33. [illegible] Paid to 4h Sept. 1846, no date of death on our Books.
F Burt
Auditor
Page 55

Hon J. Minot
Commr of Pensions

Add evidence
B Sand
3 March 55

[written sideways]
27048
Fanny Turner
wid
Samuel
Boynton
Page 56

[illegible] A/53 S.C.

Boynton
Page 57

So, Carolina Spartanburgh District } personally came Solomon Forest before me and made oath that he was with Samuel Turner in the old Rivolution, War he turned out volunteer under Capt. Jeremiah Dickson the next, he turned out under Capt. Anthoney Coulter, the next officer he served under was Capt. Dennis Frammal [or Hammal], Then he served under Liutenant Colo, John Collins, then he served under General Pikins, in all the time the sd. Samuel Turner served in the old war was about two year, sworn and subscribed to the 18th August 1833
Henry Turner [illegible]
Solomon his x mark Forest


The J. Q.
Wm Clowny or W R Davis Esq will please state whether they know Henry Turner of Spartenburg [illegible] and whether he is a J. Q. as he subscribes himself to be to the above [illegible] (over)
Page 58

The necessity of their certificate if they
know him will be perceived from 
the want of legal and her location by
the Clk of sd. District

Sam Carson
Page 59

2409
Restoration Brief in the Case of Fanny Turner, Widow 
Samuel Turner Private Rev. War
McDowell County and State of North Carolina 
2nd Sec Act Feb. 3, 1853
CLAIM FOR NEW PENSION CERTIFICATE, PROOF EXHIBITED, Fanny Turner was a Pensioner on the Roll No. Carolina at $23.33 per annum & paid to Sep. 4, 1860 certificate returned. Claim made by a duly appointed ad for the arrears of pension due to Jany 31, 1865. date of death of pensioner. She is shown to have been loyal & a widow.
Restored May 23, 1867 to a pension at $23.33 per annum & commencing Sep. 4 1860 & terminating Jany 31, 1865 payable to John Anderson adm. for loyal [or legal ?] heirs
W. E. Trask, Examining Clerk.
Name and residence of Agent.
John Anderson 
Brindleton
Burke Co
No. Carolina