Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 17,509, for Frederick Raymer, New York
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New York

Raymer, Frederick / Nancy

W 17,509
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New York
Raymer, Frederick
Nancy
W17,509
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5379
New York
Nancy Raymer the widow of Frederick Raymer who served in the Revolutionary war, as a private NY
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 73 Dollars 20 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1848. Ending 22 June 1848. Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Feb 1857 and sent to JM Thayer Present
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The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ translated out of the original Greek and with the former translation diligently compared and revised by the special command of His Majesty King James I, of England
(Illegible 2 lines under image)

Printed at Worcester, Massachusetts, by Isiah Thomas, Jun. For Isiah Thomas.
Sold by him in Worcester. Sold also by said Thomas and Andrews, [illegible] Faust's Statue, No. 45, Newbury Street, Boston; and by said Thomas and Thomas, in Walpole, Newhampshire
1801
Raymer, Frederick
N.Y. W 17509
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Frederick & Nancy Ramer [illegible]
Ages
Conrad Ramer infant born Oct. 26 1785 in [illegible]
Alexander Ramer infant born Dec. 20th 1787
Hannah Ramer infant born April 11th, 1790
Daniel Ramer infant born Oct. 15th [illegible]
Catherine Ramer infant born Nov. 24th [illegible]
[illegible] Ramer infant born Nov. 23rd [illegible]
[illegible] H. Ramer infant born August 23rd 1801
[illegible] Ramer infant born Dec. 11th 1803
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No. 19936
Frederick Raymer
New York

aomd


Parley Whitmore
Day in [illegible]
County New York
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War Department, Pension Office
20 May 1833

Sir: 
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832 has been examined and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tubular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus } ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim. 

A Statement, showing the service of Frederick Raymer Tempkind NY

Period when the service was rendered
March 1 1777
Vol May June July
1778 July Vol Vol Sept
[illegible] March
1779
Sept [illegible[
1781 Spring June Oct
1782 Vol

Duration of the claimant's service
Years Months Days

Rank of the claimant
Priv

Names and Rank of the Company offers under whom he served
[illegible] Green Caps. VanAmy
[illegible]

Names and Rank of the General and Field Officers
Genl Glover
Col Brewer

Battles in which the applicant was engaged
None None

Country through which he marched
NY Vermont Fort Ann

Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period
[illegible] Albany New York

Evidence by which the declaration is supported
[illegible]

I am, respectfully, Your obedient servant, J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions
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Regulations under the Act of June 7, 1832
The following regulations have been adopted: 
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers." all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service. 
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers
3. Persons employed in the Naval service
4. Indian Spies

As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record. 

Declaration, In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832. 
State, Territory, or District of
County of
On this day of.      personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of.     in the county of.   and State, Territory or District of.    aged (c).  years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth of his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the proven made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with.   and served in the (e) regiment of the.   line, under the following named officers:

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers, the time he left the service: (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers:) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service, the battles, if any, in which he was engaged,  and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid, 
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court]

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. 

I.  of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.  

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c. 

If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule give in note (j) points out. 

Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:

(k) We, A.B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C.D. resign in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; and that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion. 

Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid, [And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certified, that it appears to them that A.B. and that C.D. who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit. 


I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c. 

Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and 
will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction. 

If such surviving witnesses cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted, and unless, therefore these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case. 

The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia. 
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it? 
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live? 
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
6. To a Soldier {Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
To an Officer { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of the persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant. 
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates. 
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject. 
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant, cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court. 
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature. 
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832, and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter. 

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[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity, in which case the declarant will follow the rules laid down for his guidance. 
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule. 
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be determined. 
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served. 
[e] Every continental office or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and he different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to [illegible] the Department to determine as to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A.B. who, being duly sworn, deposits and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but to the best of his recollection, he served [illegble] the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades. --- For --- year----months, and --- days, I served as a -----. For ---- months and ----- days I served as a -------, and for such services I claim a pension."
It is important in all cases, to determine with precision, he period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pensions to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Such persons who apply for pensions merely state that they serve two years in the militia &c, without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was  either in the field or in garrisons; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit. 
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable. 
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required. 
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case. 
[I] The Clerk must fix his seal, and if it has a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer should accompany the papers. 

Mode of authenticating papers
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affadavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 

Proof of Service
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify the credibility of the witnesses and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. 
The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only. 
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases. 
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact. 
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

Dyer Caster
Exam Clerk
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12587
Nancy Raymer
[illegible]
widow of Frederick
[illegible] 7 July 1838
Married 1785
Husband died 16 Nov 1836
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Declaration In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of the 7th July 1838 entitled "An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows" and also of the acts of the 3d March 1843 and of June 17, 1844 
State of New York 
County of Tompkins ss: On this 29th day of January in the year of our Lord 1846 Eighteen hundred & forty six personally appeared before the Subscriber a Judge of the County Courts in and for said and state, Nancy Raymer of the Town of Dogan in County and State aged Eighty one years and upwards who being first duly sworn doth on her oath depose, swear, and declare in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7, 1838 entitled "An act granting half pay and pensions to certain Widows" and also to obtain the benefit of the cost of the 3d March 1843 and also the act of the 17th June 1844 That she is the widow of Frederick Raymer late of Dryden in the County and State aforesaid who in his life time was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States at the rate of seventy three Dollars and Twenty cents per annum for and on account of his services in the Revolutionary War and whose certificate of Pension was dated at the War office of the United States September 28th 1833 and signed "John Robb Acting Secretary of War, that the said Frederick Raymer was the Husband of this Deponant that she was married to the said Frederick Raymer at Pittstown in the County of Rensselaer & State of New York on the fourth day of January 1785 Seventeen hundred and Eighty five that the said Frederick Raymer her husband the Pensioner aforesaid died on the sixteenth 16th day of November in the year 1836 one thousand Eight hundred and thirty six to him prior to his having the same that the said Record of the births of the children of the Deponent and the said Frederick Raymer is the only family Record  she has or ever had and according to the best of her knowledge and belief there exists no other family, Church Parish of Town Record of their births ages or Marriage. That said annexed Record is in the hand writing of her husband the said Frederick Rayne and was in his life time kept by him & by this Deponant since his death kept in an old Family Bible as such Family Record; That she this Deponant still remains a widow and the widow of the said Frederick Raymer the person aforesaid. And further the proofs upon which her Husband the said Frederick Rayner was pensioned as aforesaid as she is informed and verily believes are and now remain on file in the War office at Washington, to which she very
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respectfully prays leave to refer and which when referred to will fully show the services of the said Frederick Raymer in the War of the Revolution for which he was pensioned & for which this Deponant Claims to be entitled Subscribed and sworn to by the have above named Nancy Raymer before  me this 29th day of January 1846 Arthur S Johnson Judge of of Tompkins County Court 
Nancy Raymer mark

I do hereby certify that the above named Declarant Nancy Raymer is a person of high respectability and of good and undoubted reputation for truth and veracity that her statements as above are entitled to full credit and belief. And I further certify that the said Nancy Raymer from her extreme old age and bodily infirmity is unable to appear in open Court before a Court of Record to make this her declaration for a Pension. Dated January 29th A.D. 1846 Anton F Johnson Judge of Tompkins County Court
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State of New York County of Tompkins ss: Personally appeared before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Tompkins, Hannah Haskins of the Town of Lansing in said County aged fifty five years on the Eleventh day of April last past who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath depose and say that Nancy Raymer of the Town of Dryden in said County who is making an application for a Pension as the Widow of Frederick Raymer is the mother of her the Deponent and that her Father the said Frank Raymer, did in his life time draw a pension for his services in the Revolutionary war at the rate of Seventy three Dollars and Twenty cents per annum that she the Deponant has two brothers older than herself viz Couradt who if now living would be sixty years old & upwards and Alexander who resides in the County of Oneida & State of New York and whose age is fifty eight years and upwards. That the annexed Record of her brothers and sisters is the only Record she ever saw or has any knowledge of which from her earliest recollection has been kept as the Family Record & only family record of the said Frederick Raymer and that the same is in the hand writing of her Father the Pensioner aforesaid And that her mother the above named Nancy Raymer was and is his widow. that her Father the said Pensioner died on the sixteenth day of November one thousand eight hundred and thirty six - and that her mother the said Nancy Raymer still remains his widow scribed and sworn before me this 19 day of January AD. 1846 Hannah Haskins I certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Hannah Haskins and that she is highly respectable and her statements are entitled to full credit and belief
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State of New York
Tompkins County ss. Personally appeared before the subscriber a Judge of the County Courts in and for said County Deborah Twogood of Dryden in said County, who being duly sworn doth on her oath depose and say that the is Seventy four years old and upwards that she is well acquainted with Nancy Rayner of Dryden in said County who is applying for a Pension on account of the services of her late husband Frederick Raymer in the Revolutionary war. That she has been intimately acquainted with the said Nancy Raymer and her husband the said Frederick Raymer since before their marriage and for more than sixty four years past - That they were married at Pittstown in the County of Rensellaer & State of New York in the month of January in the year 1785 Seventeen hundred and Eighty five. that she is certain and cannot be mistaken as to the month or year of their marriage but the day of the month they were married she is unable to state. That at the time of such Marriage the this Deponent lived in Pittstown & a near neighbor to them and that a brother & Sister of this Deponant (both of whom are now dead) were at the wedding. That the said Frederick Raymer and the said Nancy Rayner lived together as man and wife and as such raised a large family of children that the oldest of them if now living would be more than sixty years old. That the said Frederick Raymer drew a Pension for his services in the Revolution for a number of years previous to his death and that he died on the 16th day of November 1836 and further that the said Nancy Raymer still remains the widow of the said Frederick Raymer who was in his life time a pensioner of the United States Subscribed & sworn before me this 29th day of January 1846 Arthur S Johnson Judge of Tompkins County Court Deborah Twogood mark  
I certify that the above named Deborah Twogood who has this day appeared before me & taken the preceding affidavit is person of high respectability and of good & unquestioned reputation for truth & veracity - that her statements above are entitled to full credit and belief. January 29th 1846 Anton F Johnson Judge of Tompkins County Court
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State of New York Tompkins County Clerks office ss. I, Henry B. Moore Clerk of said County and clerk of the County Court held in & for said County Do hereby certify that Anton S. Johnson Esq before whom the preceding declaration of Nancy Raymer and affidavit of Deborah Twogood severally purport to have been subscribed and sworn and whose name is subscribed to the Jurats thereto and to the certificates thereunder written was at the date thereof & now is a Judge of the County Court in and for said County Commissioned & sworn and duly authorized as such. Also that Edward Walker Esq before whom the preceeding affidavit of Hannah Haskins purports to have been subscribed & sworn was of the state thereof and now is a Justice of the peace in and for said County duly commissioned and sworn and authorized by law as such. And I further certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing and signatures of the said Judge and Justice respectively and that their several signatures to said Senate and certificates are genuine

In Testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said County of [illegible] this 31st day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and forty six - Henry B. Moore Clerk
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Declaration In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed the 7th of Jun 1832 State of New York Tompkins County ⎬ On this third day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court, before the Court of Common pleas in and for the County of Tompkinsnow sitting, Frederick Raymer, a resident of the Town of Dryden in the County of Tompkins and State of New York, of the age of Seventy two years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 That he entered the service of the United under the following named officers and served as herein stated. 

On or about the first of March in the year 1777 at the town of Wills Town in the County of Albany, Now Renselaer and State of New York, he Volunteered in the Militia under the command of the Lieutenant William Green and  served two weeks, and was dismissed - one year in the month of May at Pittstown aforesaid Volunteered to go to Fort Ann Under the command of Capt Abm. Vancing marched to near Fort Ann and served there two weeks, and then was dismissed and returned to Pittstown in the month of June then next following was pressed at Pittstown aforesaid with his team (a pair of horses and waggon) by General Glover who commanded a Brigade of Continentalsand went to Saratoga and served ten days then was taken all and was discharged they kept his team, which he never got in the month of July the same year at PIttstown aforesaid he was pressed with him pair of horses & waggon, to any carry a load to Bennington in the state of Vermont by Colonel Brewer, he went to Bennington aforesaid with his team and served  one week, while returning on his way from Bennington was taken a prisoner by the British [illegible] and held as a prisoner the term of three months, to wit, first he was conveyed to Fort George, thence to Saratoga and continued there until surrender of Bourgouyn making the three months then went home to Pittstown Sick and remained until the spring following-- in the year 1778 same time in July at Pittsown the Volunteered to go to Fort Edward under the command of Capt Withey marched to Fort George and served three weeks, then was dismissed and returned home to Pittstown. The next week following thereafter, he volunteered to go to Fort Edward under the command ensign John Hardin moved to Fort Edward, served three weeks there was dismissed and returned [illegible]
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home to Pittstown aforesaid, in the month of September then next following at the aforesaid Pittstown, he volunteered under the command of Lieutenant Van Arry to go to Fort Ann, and served then three weeks and was dismissed and returned to Pittstown in the month of March 1779 he substituted for Benjamin Gifford (who was drafted at Pittstown aforesaid, for the Term of nine months), under the command of Capt Hodge - that he then marched from Pittstown to Albery thence near Fort Edward from thence to Fort George from there Northward in the wilderness to make roads continued several days making roads, thence he marched back to Fort Edward; and there served until the nine months had expired for which he entered a substitute as aforesaid - then was dismissed and went home to Pittstown, on or about the last of May was called out to go on horseback to Fort George under the command of Capt Wilsey then marched to Fort George, from thence to Fort Edward served there in several scouting parties, the term of six weeks, then he was dismissed and returned to Pittstown - the same year in the next September following was called out to go to Palmer Town near Saratoga under the command of Capt Gates at a [illegible], marched then served for himself one month and then substituted one month for one Seult (forgoten his Christian name), served the month for Seult then was dismissed and returned to  Pittsown- 
In the year 1781 in the Spring was called up to go to Fort George under the command of Capt Wilsey, and there served the term of five weeks then he was dismissed and returned to Pittstown in the month of June next following called out on horseback to Fort Edward Served at, and about that place three weeks under Captain Wilsey - then he was dismissed and returned to Pitt Town in the same year the last of October called on to go to Fort George under the Command Lieut John Harden in the regiment commanded by Colonel Grosebeck and went to Fort George, and served the term of four weeks then was dismissed and returned to Pittstown in the year 1782 at Pittstown Volunteeredto go to Fort George under the command of Lieut John Hardin Marched to Fort George, then served ten day in repairing boats then he was ordered to the outlet of Lake George when Governor George Clinton was present, then he was placed under the command of the regular officers in a regiment commanded by [illegible] (called rangers) then we marched North west
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Col Warner called the ranging, thence he marched a north westerly line for a considerable distance into the wilderness, after the Indians  [illegible] marched to Fort Edward, from there he marched to Fort Ann where he was dismissed, making the three months and one week service which he served in the above last described campaign
That he was born in Germantown in the County of Bucks and State of Pennsylvania, in the year 1760, resided there five years then went to the town of Spotsford in the County Middlesex in the State of New Jersey , and resided there about ten years, from thence went to Pittstown, in the County of Albany, Now Renselaer) in the State of New York, he resided there about twenty years, moved from there to the town of Dryden in the County of Cayuga now Tompkins and State of New York, where he now resides
That he resided in Pittstown when he first entered the service also when he left the service he resided in Pittstown aforesaid That he was no record of his age of what That he received no discharge during his service well acquainted with Thomas Lewis and Elder [illegible] who resides in his neighbourhood who can testify as to his character for veracity, and their belief of his serving as a soldier of the Revolution He hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares, that his name is not on the pension Roll of any agency of any State Sworn to and Subscribed, the day and year aforesaid- Newark Saml Sone  Frederick Raymer We hereby [illegible] a Clergyman, residing in the Town of Dryden in the County of Tompkins in the State of New York and Andrew G. Fortner residing in the Town of Dryden in the County of Tompkins and State aforesaid, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Frederick Raymer who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy two years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the Neighborhood where he resides, to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion  Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid A H Fortner S. Soule
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And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter; and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that [illegible] can who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman, resident in the Town of Dryden in the County of Tompkins and State of New York, and that Andrew K. Fortier who has also signed the same is a resident in the Town of Dryden in the County of Tompkins and State aforesaid, and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to Credit.
I Samuel Lowe Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for said County do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the Original proceedings in the matter of the application of Frederick Raymer for a pension
 In testimony whereof I have hereunto set [illegible]
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Nancy Raymer widow of Frederick of N.Y. Frederick Raymer was a pensioner act of 7th June 1832. The application of the widow  [illegible] now claims the pension under the Resolution of July 1st 1848 J.M. Thayer Esq Present
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State of New York County of Tompkins 

I Alfred Kelly County Judge and ex officio Surrogate of land County of Tompkins hereby certify that satisfactory evidence has been adduced before the Surrogate Court of Land County to them that Nancy Raymer late of Dryden in land County and widow of Frederick Raymer did on the 28th day of June eighteen hundred and forty eight state that Alexander Raymer, Sampson Raymer, Hannah Haskins and Barbara Giles are the only children of the said Nancy [illegible] applicant for a pension

I further certify that James Giles of Dryden in said County has been duly appointed commissioned and qualified as [illegible] of said Nancy Raymer and that full faith and credit are due to his acts as such 

In testimony whereof I have certified the seal of the Land Surrogate Court [illegible]

Alfred Kelly County Judge of Land County [illegible] this third day of April one thousand Eight hundred and fifth
Alfred Kelly County Judge
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September 15, 1905

Lena B. Shaw
154 Arlington Ave.,
Jersey City, New Jersey. 

Madam:

I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim W. 17509 it appears that Frederick Raymer, or Ramer, was born in 1760 in Germantown, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, when five years of age moved to Spotswood, Middlesex County, New Jersey, remained there ten years and then removed to Pittstown, Albany County (the part which was later Rensselaer County), New York. 

While a resident of said Pittstown he enlisted March 1, 1777 and served in each succeeding year until the last of 1782, at various times, nearly two years in all, as private and teamster under Lieutenants William Green, and John Hardin, Captains Cornelius Wiltse, Hodges, Jacob Yates, Colonels Knickerbocker, Lewis Van Wert, Peter Yates, Grosbeak and Warner in the New York Troops and during said service in August 1777 on his return from Bennington, Vermont
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with his team, was captured by the Indians and Tories and held three months. 

He was allowed pension on his application executed October 3, 1833 while a resident of Dryden, Tompkins County, New York. He died November 16, 1836 in said Dryden. 

Soldier married January 4, 1785 in Pittstown, New York, Nancy whose maiden name is not given. Pension was allowed on her application executed January 29, 1846 while a resident of Dryden, New York. She died June 22, 1848 in said Dryden aged upwards of eighty-three years. 

Their children were:

Conradt born October 26, 1785, dead in 1845.
Alexander " December 20, 1787.
Hannah " April 11, 1790, married.......Haskin, and living in Lansing, N.Y. in 1848.
Daniel  " October 15, 1792.
Catherine " November 24, 1795. 
Eliza " November 23, 1798. 
Sampson " August 23, 1801. 
Barbary " December 11, 1803, married James Giles. 

The above noted is only soldier by that name found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau. 
Respectfully, Winfield Scott Commissioner
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Rev Widow, &c

File No. 17509
Nancy Raymer 
Widow of Frederick Raymer
Pri Rev War

Act:  [illegible]
Index: -Vol.  W, Page 198

[Arrangement of 1870]
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1795 Feb. 6 [illegible]
Mr. W.D. Moore
Saltville, VA
1906 Jan. 29, Hist. to was Mrs. J.M. Duryee and 1925. Sept. 25 Hist. to Leonard B. [illegible]
1940 April 17. Hist. to Mrs. Corinne L. J. Curtice [illegible]
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V. N 12587
Nancy Raymer 
NY
Let 6 Hon Hofelien Strong
April 14 1846
same Aug 7, 1846
Let to Hon. W.J. Lawrence
Mart 1848

Act 7 July 1838
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8938
New York a
Nancy Raymer
widow of Frederick
who was a private 
in the Revolution

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 73 Dollars 20 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.

Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Febry 1851 and sent to JM Thayer 
Parent
[Acts of March 2, 1843, & June 17, 1844.]

Recorded in Book a
Vol. 2 Page 84
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11.041
New York a
Nancy Raymer due
Widow of Frederick 
who was a pensioner under the Act of
and who died on the 16 Nov 1836
-- In the State of NY
who was a private in the ___
commanded by  ____ of the 
____ commanded by _____ in 
the NY line for 2 mon 29 days
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany 
at the rate of 73 Dollars 20
cents per annum to commence of the 16 November 1836
Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of July 1857 and sent to JM Thayer Present
Total amount, $ ---
[Act July 7, 1838]
Recorded by H.E. Robinson Clerk, 
Book D, Vol. 1, Page 527
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Pension Offer
For Nancy Raymer Widow of Frederick Raymer
Leave at the office proof of the engagement in the service of Frederick Raymer or Ramer and show the Pension Officer the letter of W Crittenden to me
William J. Lawrence
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12587
Nancy Raymer
widow of Frederick
NY
Act 7 July 1838
Married 1785
Husband death in 1836
[illegible] 21 May 29 days on
P7320 coming 16 Nov 1836
Ending 22 June 1848, payable 
to James Giles, Admin:
what for the benefit of the surviving children
viz: Alexander Raymer
Sampson Raymer
Hannah Haskins + 
Barbara Giles
Ally Roll

JM Thayer 
Present
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Washington May 22 - 1840 
Yours of the 12th July was duly read. Our rolls furnish no trace of Frederick Raymer's service. 
You say R. resided "at or near Saratoga" Probably you will find his name upon the N. York pay rolls at Albany as the names upon our rolls were for Vermont troops only. 
The fee for this search is $1 [illegible] please forward [illegible]

Your obt servt, 
[illegible] Shafter
Scy of State
of Vt
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Hall of Rep. 
March 23d 1846
Mr James L. Edwards
Com of Pensions

Sir, 
I have the honor to present the endorsed. application of Nancy Raymer for a pension and to ask the attention of the Commissioner to the same. 

Very Respectfully, 
Stephen Strong
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In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April , 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:

19th Oct. 1779 Fredk Ramer Corp.  12 2 1/2
2nd Nov 1780.  Priv 164
29th Nov. 1779 Fredk Ramer. Corp 133

State of New-York
Comptroller's Office, Albany, 29th Jany 1848

I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 5648 now remaining in the office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz:

First - under Capt. Jacob Yates in Col. Peter Yates Reg't
Second "" Conrad Wilts "" [?] ""
Third "" Mattw D. Garmo "" John Can Ranpelon "

Abrm Van Anne was Lt. under each of the above named Captains

[illegible]
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Hon Stephen Strong
House of Representatives
Washington City D.C.

Nancy Raymer application for a pension
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Ithaca N.Y. Feb. 7th 1846

Hon Stephen Strong

Sir
Enclosed herewith I send to your charges the papers on application of Mrs Nancy Raymer of this county for a Pension on account of the Revolutionary services of her late husband Frederick Raymer. Mrs R. is the mother in law of Mr. J. Giles whom you will know + all attention you may give to the matter of way of asking in the application will confer a favor on Mr. Giles as well as the applicant. 
Please present the application to the Court of Pensioners and see that the same is fairly examined + let me know the month. Mr Raymer in his lifetime was a Pensioner under the law of 1832 and I suppose that the papers upon which he was pensioned will sufficiently prove his services - I believe all the proof [illegible] is furnished. Should anything further be required please specify particularly what further is requisite. 
Yours Very Respectfully
Saml Crittenden Jr.
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State of New York 
Tompkins County [illegible] being duly sworn according to law deposed and says that he is of the age of seventy three years and is a resident of the town of Dryden in the County of Tompkins and State aforesaid, and is well acquainted with Frederick Raymer of the Town of Dryden aforesaid, that he the deponant was acquainted with the said Frederick Raymer during the Revolutionary war which at that time the said Raymer resided in Pittstown in County of Albany then, Now called Renselaer and State aforesaid at the same that this deponent resided in [illegible] adjoining Pittstown,  in the neighborhood, that he knew the said Frederick Raymer to be in the United States Service as soldier in the year 1777. Saw him in the army of time when he the said Frederick Raymer was charged with [illegible] of waggon and horses to go Bennington in the State of Vermont at which time he knew the said Raymer to have been taken a prisoner and that he was held as a prisoner several months, cannot say how long but believes about three months. This deponant [illegible] that said saymer was as stated and reputed in his neighborhood to have been in the Revolutionary war the most of the time from the year 1777 in the year 1781, during the aforesaid term he the deponant saw the said Raymer, at Fort Edward, and other places cannot recollect [illegible]
Wandal Overaecker
Mark
 Subscribed and sworn to this 10th day of November 1832 the before me Parley Whitmoer Commissioner 
I certify that the above named Wandal Overaecker is known to me and is reputed and believed in his neighborhood to be a man of truth and veracity that his statements are entitled to credit Parley Whitmore
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State of New York
Tompkins County - Clerk's Office: I do hereby certify that Parley Whitmore before whom the written affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of the [illegible] of the Commissioner is and for said County is duly authorized to take affidavits and that I am acquainted with his handwriting and verily believe his name subscribed to said affadavit to be his own proper handwriting and signature. Written by my hand and seal of office this 20th day of December 1838. 

Samuel Love Clerk
C/o Geo. G. Green Dep. Clerk
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amod
21 mo 29 ospre

70
319
________
7319

14640
3660
______________
18300
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State of Newyork
Tompkins County- Personally appeared before me the undersigned and a Justice of the peace of the Town of Dryden in and for the County aforesaid, Frederick Raymer, who, being duly sworn deposeth and saith that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but, according to the best of his recollecttion, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:

In the year 1777 in month of March, for fourteen days I served as a private soldier in the army of theRevolution
In the May following, For fourteen day I served a private soldier as aforesaid 
in the month of June following for ten days I served as Wagoner in the United States Service 
In the month of July following, For seven days I served as a Waggoner as aforesaid 
In the month of August I was taken a prisoner by the British Indians and Torys and conveyed to Fort Miller which by mistake was Stated Fort George in my former Declaration, from thence to Saratoga when I was held as a prisoner by the British Indians and Torys the term of three months. 
In the year 1776, in the month of July, for twenty one days served as a private soldier in the army of the Revolution (in Colonel Nickerbacker's Regiment) 
In the month of August following I served as a private soldier in the army of the Revolution - (in the Regiment commanded by Col Knickerbocker) twenty one days 
In the month of September following I served twenty one days of soldier of the Revolution (in the Regiment as aforesaid) 
In the year 1779 in the month of March I substituted for Benjamin Gifford, for Nine months. I served asa a private soldier in the army of the Revolution, (Continued from March as aforesaid  until I served the nine months
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[illegible] positively to the name of the Colonel in the said nine months service, but believes was Colonel Lewis Van wort 
In the year 1780 in the months of May and Jane for one month and twelve days I served as a private soldier in the army of the Revolution
In the month of September and October for one month I served as a private soldier as aforesaid In the month of October and November following for one month, I served as a private Soldier, Substitute for [illegible] 
In the year 1781 in the month of April & May for one month and five days I served as a private soldier in the army the Revolution 
In the month of June following for twenty one day I served as a private soldier as aforesaid 
In the month of October and November following for twenty eight days I served as a private soldier in the United States army as aforesaid 
Inthe year 1782 in the month of July I served as a private soldier in the army as aforesaid ten days in repairing Boats  
In the months of August September and October following for three months and Seven days I served as a private soldier in the army of the Revolution aforesaid 
And for such service claim a pension
Sworn and subscribed this 8th day of June 1838 before me
Frederick Raymer 
Schuyler Godard Justice of the peace
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Tompkins County
Clerk's Office: I Samuel Love clerk of said county do hereby certify that Schuyler Goddard before whom the preceding [illegible] affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of the same one of the Justices of the Peace in and for said County and that I am acquainted with his handwriting and verily believe his name subscribed to said affidavit to be his proper handwriting and signature. [illegible] my hand and official seal this 15th day of June 1833. 
Samuel Love Clerk
Geo. G. Green Deputy Clerk
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State of New York Tompkins County 
Personally appeared before me the undersigned Justice of the peace of the Town of Ithaca in and for the County Tompkins aforesaid Daniel Kiff who being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is well acquainted with Frederick Raymer of the town of Dryden in the County aforesaid that he was well acquainted with the said Raymer in the year 1777 at Pittstown in the County of Albany the Now Rensellaer and State of New york, that the said Frederick Raymer served in  the Revolutionary War as a soldier at Fort Edward, that he saw him several times in the United States as a soldier, that he the deponent knew him to have been pressed with his team horses & Waggon- that a short time after he the said Raymer was taken a prisoner, and held as a prisoner between two and three months as near as he can recollect, cannot specify the precise time but knew it to be some months - In the year 1778 this deponent further said he knew the said Frederick Raymer on the nine month service so called - that this deponant and said Raymer both resided in one neighborhood during the years 1777-1778-1779. that said Raymer was absent and was reported and believed in the neighborhood that he was during his absence in the army as a soldier of the Revolution and he this deponant further said that he saw the aforesaid Frederick Raymer at different times in the army and that he knew him to be an actual Solder in the United Sates service at the different times when he saw him as aforesaid Sworn and subscribed this fifth day of June 1833 before me JM Cantine Justice of the Peace
Daniel Kiff
I certify that the above named Daniel Kiff is known to me and is reputed and believed in his neighborhood to be a man of truth and verily that his statements are entitled to credit
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State of New York
Tompkins County
Clerk's Office

I Samuel Love clerk of said county do hereby certify that John Cantine Esquire before whom the within affidavit purports to have been sworn and also who has subscribed his name to the within certificate was at the date of the same one of the Justices of the Peace in and for said County and that I am well acquainted with his handwriting and verily believe his name subscribed to said affidavit and to the said certificate to be his own proper handwriting and signature in Testimony whereof I have herewith set my hand and affixed my official seal this 15th day of June 1833
Samuel Love Clerk
Geo. G Freer Deputy Clerk
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Widow File No 17509
Nancy Widow of Frederick Raymer
Mrs JM Durpre
[illegible]
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Com. of Pensions
Washington DC

Dear Sir,
Will you kindly send me any records which your department has of the Revolutionary War service of Frederick Raymer who enlisted as a teamster at Germantown, Pa.? Later I believe he or his widow applied for and attained a pension.
Thanking you in advance, I am
Very truly yours, 
Lena B. Shaw
154 Arlington Ave.
Jersey City, N.J.
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204 Buckley Drive
Macon, Georgia
April 3, 1940

Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sirs:

Could you give me any information concerning the service of Frederick Raymer, a soldier of the Revolutionary War? This indeed would be most appreciated as I am establishing my ancestry for membership in the D.A.R from the lineage of Frederick Raymer.

I would appreciate a statement of the military history of the said person concerning his services in assisting in the establishment of American Independence during the War of the Revolution. 

Too, could you give me any remarks concerning whom he married and the date of their marriage. Then of his wife I would like to know when and where she was born and when and where she died. I understand that she was also a pensioner. 

In conclusion, it is necessary for me to give reference by volume and page to the documentary of Frederick Raymer's Military Record from which you have given me the information.
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I will appreciate any information you can give me in reference to that I have mentioned.

Respectfully yours,
Mrs. Corinne Leola Teeter Curtice
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Application for pension on file in this Bureau
Frederick Raymer
[illegible] Mar 1, 1777
Length of Service 21 mo 29 day
Rank Private Teamster
Officers Under Whom Service was Rendered
Captain Wiltse Hodges
Colonel Knickerbacker Lewis Van Woert Gates Groesback Warner

was also spelled Ramer
Battles engaged in, 
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Pittstown N.Y. 
Date of application for pension, Oct 3. 1832, His share allowed
Residence at date of application, Dryden, Tompkins Co N.Y. 
Age at date of applicartion, born in Germantown, Bucks Co. Pa. 1760. died Nov. 16 1836
Remarks: mar. Nancy Jan. 4, 1785 at Pittstown N.Y she died June 22, 1848. aged 83
Children: Conradt, born Oct. 26 1785; Alexander b. Dec 29, 1787. Hannah b. Apr. 11, 1790; Daniel b. Oct 15 1792; Catharine b. Nov 24, 1795 [illegible} b. Nov 3., 1798,
Sampson b. Aug 23, 1801
Barbary b. Dec. 11, 1803 mar. James Giles

Very respectfully, Commissioner
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Division
Department of the Interior
Bureau of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C. 

Sir:
In reply to your request for a statement of the military history of FREDERICK RAYMER a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's application for pension on file in this Bureau. 
Dates of Enlistment of Appointment
Length of Service
Rank
Officers Under Whom Service Was Rendered Captain Colonel 
State
He first entered the service in the month of March, 1777 and was discharged finally sometime during the year 1782, having rendered about 21 months and 29 days actual service as a private and teamster, mostly in the New York troops. The following are mentions of officers under whom he served: Lieut. William Green, Capt. [illegible] Van Amy, Gen. Glover, Col. Brewer, Capt. Willey, Ensign John Hardin, Capt. Hodge, Col. [illegible] and Col. Warner. He was called out whenever occasion demanded and rendered at least fifteen different tours of duty. 

Battles engaged in, None. 
Residence of solider at enlistment, Pittstown, Albany County, N.Y.
Date of application for pension, October 3, 1832. 
Residence at date of application, Dryden, N.Y. 
Age at date of application, Born, Germantown, Pa. in the year 1760.
Remarks: His widow, Nancy, to whom he was married on Jan. 4, 1785, was also a pensioner. He died November 16, 1838. 

Very respectfully, Commissioner. 
[illegible]
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April 17, 1940
Ba_J/ADY
Frederick Raymer 
W. 17509

Mrs. Corinne L.T. Curtice
204 Berkley Drive 
Macon, Georgia

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter relative to Frederick Raymer, a solider of the Revolutionary War. 

The record of the only Frederick Raymer that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this office is furnished you herein as found in the papers on file in pension claim, W.17509, based upon his military service in that war. 

Frederick Raymer was born in Germantown, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, in 1760, day, month and the name of his parents are not shown. When five years of age he moved to Spotswood, Middlesex County, New Jersey, and ten years later he moved to Pittstown, Albany County, that part which was later called Rensselaer County, New York. His name is also shown as Ramer. 

While a resident of said Pittstwon, Frederick Raymer enlisted March 1, 1777, and served in each succeeding year until the last of 1782, at various times, nearly two years in all, as private and teamster under Lieutenants William Green and John Hardin, Captains Cornelius Wilts, Hodges, Jacob Yates, Colonels Knickerbacker, Lewis Van Woert, Peter Yates, Groesbeck  and Warner in the New York troops. During said service in August 1777, on his return from Bennington, Vermont, with his team he was captured by the Indians and Tories and held three months. 

Hw was allowed pension on his application executed October 3, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Dryden, Tompkins County, New York. 

He died November 16, 1836 in Dryden, New York. 

Soldier married January 4, 1785, in Pittstown, New York, Nancy, her maiden name is not shown. 

Soldier's widow, Nancy Raymer. applied for pension January 29, 1846, at which time she was a resident of Dryden, New York.
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claim was allowed.
Nancy Rayner died June 22,1848, in said Dryden aged upwards of eighty-three years.
The following names of the children of Frederick and Nancy Rayner are shown:

Conradt Ramer born October 26, 1785, in Pittstown, was dead in 1846
Alexander Ramer " December 20, 1787
Hannah Ramer " April 11, 1790
Daniel Ramer " October 15, 1792
Catharine Ramer " November 24, 1795
Eliza Ramer " November 23, 1796
Sampson H Ramer " August 23, 1801
Barbara or Barbary Ramer " December 11, 1803

In 1846, said Alexander Ramer was living in Oneida County, New York, and said Hannah Haskin was then a resident of Lansing, Tompkins County, New York. In 1850, said Barbara or Barbary Giles, was the wife of James Giles of Dryden, New York, his age was not given.

Only the following children were living in 1850, Alexander Raymer, Sampson H. Raymer, Hannah Haskin and Barbara or Barbary Giles. There are no further family data.
Very truly yours, 

A.D: Miller
Executive Assistant 
to the Administrator