Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 17031, Silas Green, New York
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New York
Green, Silas
W.17031
Lydia
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Albany 3245 
Lydia Green
Widow of Silas Green, who was a pensioner under the act of March 1818 
who died on the 14 Feb. 1835 
of Lewis Co. in the State of N. York 
who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain Graham of the regt commanded 
by Col. Van Schaick in the N Y 
line for 2 years N. Y. 
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 80 Dollars - Cents per annum, 
to commence on the (4th day of March, 1834 (scratched out)) 15. February 1835 
Certificate of Pension issued the 2d day of March 
1840 and sent to Z. Knox 
Lowville, N.Y. 
Arrears to the 4th of Sep. ‘39                    363.74 
Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Mar ‘40  40.00 
                                                                    $403.74 
 ⎨ Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the 3 }

Recorded by D. Brown Clerk, 
Book A, Vol. 2 Page 208
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To John C. Calhoun Secretary at War
This may certify that Silas Green of the town of Decatur in the County of  Otsego and State of New York came before me and maid (sp) his declaration for his pention (sp) in the month of April 1818 and stated under oath that he belonged to Cornal (sp) Goose Van Schianks Regiment of the New York line First Regiment and there was a mistake in me it   appears in spelling his name not in him in giving his name. The above is a true statement given under my hand at Worcester, this Eleventh Day of June 1819.

Silas Crippen Late
Judge in and for the County
of Otsego and State of New York
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13.227
New York
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Silas Green
of Decatur in the State of N. York
who was a Private in the regiment commanded by
Colonel Van Schaick of the New York
line, for the term of three years
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Inscribed on the Roll of New York
at the rate of 8 dollars per month, to commence on
the 17 of April 1818
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Certificate of Pension issued the 7 of July 1836
and sent to Garret G Lansing, Esq.
Albany New York
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Arrears to the 4th of  Mar 1819          84.70
Semi-anl all'ce ending 14 Sep 1819    48.00
10 mo. 14/30 4/31                             --------
                                                          $132.75

{Revolutionary Claim,
Act 18th March, 1818
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Silas Green
No. 13,227
George Morell
Cooperstown
Apr
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District of New York
Otsego County - ? On this sixth day of February 1821 personally appeared in open court being a court of record for the County aforesaid Silas Green aged sixty nine years resident in Decatur in the County of Otsego in said District who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath declare that he served in the Revolutionary War in Capt Grahams company Colonel Van Schaicks regiment belonging to the New York line - And that the date of his original declaration was on the 17th day of April 1818 on which he received a pension certificate No. 13.227 - and I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of this United States on the 18th date of March 1818 and that I have not since that time by gift or sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with intent thereby to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War" passed on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or securities contracts or debts due to me, nor have I any income other than what is contained in the schedule hereunto annexed and by me subscribed.

Schedule of real & personal estate
I have no real estate. I rent a small farm on which there is reserved thirty five dollars annual rent.
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Personal property- one small yoke of Cattle - three cows two yearlings-- two calves six Sheep one ? one old horse of no value at all-- one common plough — one drag-- one old waggon (sic), one hoe, two poor axes, one iron bar, one very poor farming mill — one thirty gallon kettle, one four pail Kittle with a number of cracks in it one pot & one small kittle one ?, one frying pan a fire shovel & tongs one broken tea kettle three pails one set of tea  dishes eight tin ? five bowls five earthen plates five knives & forks Six Spoons one trammel one small table one meat barrel one chest one wooden clock five old chairs one small looking glass one ?  Auger one hand saw one scyth that I have due to me the sum of two dollars Sixty five cents - that I owe the sum of Eighty one dollars & forty five cents besides the sum of sixty two dollars for rent which is now due on the place I now live on & that the further sum of thirty five dollars will be due for rent on the first of may next — By occupation a farmer my family consists of myself who on account of my infirmities am unable to labor my wife who is in her sixty second year, my mother in law who is in her eighty fourth year & helpless,  my daughter Lavinia is in her thirty seventh year & has been a cripple in one knee since she was twelve years old - my son Walter is in his thirtieth year
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on account of my informities am unable to labor.  My wife who is in her sixty second year - my mother in law who is in her  eighty fourth year and  [ ] my daughter [ ] is in her thirty seventh year and has been a cripple in our house since she was twelve years old. My son Walter is in his twentieth year and able to labor two granddaughters one Ruth in her tenth year and the other Adelade in her ninth year. Sworn to and  [declared ] on the 6 th Feb, 1821 in open court
Silas Green
Geo, Morell Clk

State of New York
Otsego County Clerk Office  do I George Morell
Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of  Otsego and state of New York, do hereby certify, that the foregoing oath and the schedule thereto annexed , are truly copied  from the records of foresaid court and I do further certify that it  is the opinion of the said court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid is one hundred and fifty dollars and that pensioner owes more than the value of all his property.
In testimony trial  I have  hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of the trial court on this 10th February 1821
W Morell Clk
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To the Hon John C Calhoun Secretary of War Department of the United States of America your patitioner Silas Green of the town of Decator in the County of Otsego and the State of New York within the United States of America declares under oath that he inlisted [enlisted] into the United States service in the year 1775 into Capt Hezekiah Balden company in the New York line in the year 1776 inlists into Captain Balden company a ranger during the pleasure of Congress and served a privet [private] soldyer [soldier] ten months then inlisted [enlisted] out of that company into Capt Graham company in Col Vancook, Ridgment [regiment] of the New York line for three years and served my time out and was honorably discharged but it is out of my power to produce my discharge your patitioner seteth fourth the advancement of life to the age of 65 and upwards and his reduced circumstances he needs the assistance of his country for his support he further pray his name may be placed on the pintion [pension] list according to a law maid in congress the 14th day of March 1818
Silas Green
Otsego County State of New York
Personally came before me the 17 day of April 1818 Silas Green and maid oath to the above declaration Silas Cripper one of the Judges of Common Pleas in and for the county of Otsego
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Silas Green 
Private 
77 to 80 
Van Schaick N. York 
Regt 
Admitted 
Decatur
17 Apl 1818
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Otsego County State of New York
This may certify that Silas Green served in the Revolutionary war against the common enemy to my satisfaction nine months and more and is in need of his pension granted by Congress. Given under my hand Silas Crippen one of the judges of record in and for the County of Otsego and State of New York

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State of New York
Otsego County Clerks Office [ ]: I certify that
Silas Crippen whose signature appears to the above affidavit & certificate was at this date Himself a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Otsego duly qualified as such & that the above are his signatures -

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Given under my hand & the seal of the Court of Common Please for said County this 8th May 1818

W. Morell Clk
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Silas Green
Declaration
 —————-
24 April 1818
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No Col[illegible) the
Continental E[illegible]
His Command named
Van Schaick
Rangers, not Continental
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And [denifsable?]
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State of New York


Albany County
Affidavit
Nicholas Van Rensselaer
being duly sworn saithe that he was a lieutenant
in Col G Van Schaicks First Regiment in the army
of the Revolution that being requested by Silas
Green of Otsego to make affidavit.  States that he cannot recognize this man but is satisfied that he served in the same regiment from the middle
of March 1777 to August 1778 as his receipts 
for money paid him for services now in the hands of the Paymaster Abram Van Eycke and has no doubt of his service from the 18th of March 1777 to the 18th of March 1780
as he has seen his name registered to that effect on the rolls now in opinion of Judge
Wallace of this city under Capt Graham in Col Van Schaicks regiment.  Considers him 
a man entitled to credit and in reduced circumstances.
Nicholas Van Rensselaer
State of New York
Albany County on this sixteenth day of  November AD 1818 came] before me the above named Nicholas Van Rensselaer
[Esq?] to me known as a gentleman entitled to free influence &
belief and made solemn oath that the [illegible] affidavit by him [illegible] said here is correct and true 
Estes Howe, Judge, Albany 
Common Pleas, State of New York
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State of New York 
Albany County 
Abraham Ten Eyck of the Town of Watervliet in the County of Albany and State of New York Esquire being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he acted as paymaster of Colonel G. Van Schaicks Regiment during the Revolutionary War from 1776 to 1780. That from receipts in his possession given to this deponent as paymaster aforesaid he has no doubt that Silas Green (known to this Deponent) of Otsego County (who this deponent is informed is now on applicant for a pension) served in the War of the Revolution under the Continental Establishment in the Regiment commanded by said Colonel Van Schaick.-- That the general impression on this deponents recollection is that the said Silas Green faithfully served his country in the late Revolutionary war for three years & that he considers the said Silas Green a man entitled to Credit and believes him in low circumstances 
Abraham Ten Eyck
Sworn this 23d Day of Nov 1818 before me G.Y. Lansing Judge Court pleas Alb Cy

I do hereby certify that the above named Abraham Ten Eyck is to me well known and that full faith and credit is to be given to his Deposition 
Albany 23 Novr 1818. Gerritt Y. Lansing
Judge Com pleas 
Albany County
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State of New York 
Albany County ⎬ 
Clerks Office 
I hereby certify that Estes Howe and Garrit Y Lansing who signed the within Affidavits were both Judges of the Court of Common Pleas at the time of signing the same, and that the signatures are in their own proper hands writing and that full faith is to be given to their act
 In witness I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court this first day of Dec 1818 
George Muchart Clk 
Certificate to be sent to J. Bell Albany N.York
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State of New York 
Otsego County 
On this eighth day of August in the year 1837 personally appeared before the subscriber a judge of the County Court of said County William Griffith of Worcester in said County aged seventy eight years who being duly sworn doth depose and say that Lydia Green widow of Silas Green now residing in Martinsburgh Lewis County New York is his sister that his said sister was married to said Silas Green in the year 1778 in the month of February that said Silas Green was in the service of the United States as a private something over a year after his marriage with his said sister and the said William Griffith further deposes and says that he was present at the wedding of said Silas Green & Lydia Green and saw them lawfully married 
William Griffith 
I certify that on the eighth day of August 1837 personally appeared before me William Griffith to me known as a man of truth & verasity who made oath in due form of law to the truth of the foregoing affidavit by him subscribed 
Seth Chase Judge State of Otsego County Courts 
State of New York 
Otsego County I George C. Clyde Clerk of Otsego County hereby certify that Seth Chase before whom the preceding affidavit purports to have been sworn was on the day of the date of the same a Judge in and for the said County of Otsego duly Commissioned the hands and further that I am well
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Judge and verily Believe his name subscribed to them their affidavits and the annexed Certificate of credibility to be his genuine hand writing and Signature 

I Witness my hand & Seal of Office this 16th day of August 1837 
George C. Clyde Clerk (absent)
By George Wilson Dep. Clerk
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X 3040 
The matter of the application
of Lydia Green 
for a Pension 
Act 4 July 1836 
Manual 4 Feb 1778 
Husband died 14 Feb 1835 
Col Van Schaick [illegible] N.Y.
Capt Graham  [illegible]
Admitted 
Private 2 years
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State of New York County of Lewis 

On this 14th day of November in the year 1837 personally appeared before the Honorable Amasa Dodge Jr. a Judge of the Court of Common pleas of the County of Lewis aforesaid, Lydia Green a resident of the Town of Martinsburgh County of Lewis and State of New York aged Seventy eight years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed July 4. 1838 

That she is the widow of Silas Green who was a private in the Revolutionary Army and was a pensioner of the United States under the act of 18th of March 1818 and inscribed on the Pension List Roll of the New York Agency at the rate of Eight Dollars per month for services in Captain John Graham's company of Infantry in the first New York Regiment 

She further declares that she was married to the said Silas Green on the 4th day of February 1778 by the Rev. George Throop a Presbyterian Clergyman there residing in New Brittain Columbia County New York and that her maiden name was Lydia Griffith 

That her husband the aforesaid Silas Green died on the 14th day of February 1835 and that she has remained a widow ever since that period as will more fully appear by reference to the proof hereto annexed 

That her husband resided at the time of entering into the service of the United States in the town of New Brittain Columbia County New York. That her said husband continued in
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the service of the United States upward of One year after her marriage 

That about two years after marriage she removed with her said husband to the town of New Bethleham Albany County New York and resided there about six months during which time her said husband served a period of three months under Captain James McGee

That the has caused diligent search and enquiry to be made for a Record of her marriage but that she cannot learn that any exists nor has she any proof of her marriage except the affidavit of her brother William Griffith hereunto annexed. She further states that the place called New Bullian is a part of the town now called Chatham in Columbia County New York

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 Sworn & subscribed on the
 day & year above written 
before Amara Dodge Jr.
a Judge of Lewis Co

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Lydia Green
her mark X
Lydia Green 

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I certify that on the 14th day of November 1837 personally appeared before me the above named Lydia Greene & made oath in due form of law to [?] hath of the foregoing declaration & further certify that said declarant is in my opinion unable by reason of bodily infirmity to appear before a Court to make a Declaration [signed] Amasa Dodge Jr.
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Clerks Office Lewis County 

I Carlos P. Scovil Clerk of said County do hereby certify 
that Amasa Dodge Jr. Esquire before whom the annual 
declaration was made was on the day of the date of the 
Same a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in & for said 
County duly commissioned and Sworn and further that 
I am well acquainted with the handwriting of said Judge and truly 
believe his signature Subscribed to said declaration to be his own
proper handwriting Given under my hand and seal of said 
Court & County this 28th day of November 1837 
[signed]Carlos P. Scovil Clerk
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April 8, 1937

Daisy E. Erb 
415 Lakewood Road 
West Palm Beach, Florida 

Silas Green 
W. 17031 
BA-J/AWF

Dear Madam: 

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Silas Green or Greene from either Massachusetts or New York . With your letter was enclosed one from the Adjutant General’s Office, this city, which is returned herewith. 

The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in pension claim, W. 17031, based upon the service of Silas Green in the War of the Revolution. This is the record of the only Silas Green or Greene found on file in the Revolutionary War records of this office. 

The date and place of birth of Silas Green (as his signature is shown) were not given, nor were the names of his parents stated. 

While a resident of New Brittain (later Chatham) Columbia County, New York, Silas Green served in 1775 and 1778, ten months as private in Captain Hezekiah Baldwin's New York company. He enlisted sometime in March, 1777 and served in Captain John Graham's company, Colonel Goose Van Schaick's First New York regiment, length of service three years. He moved to New Bethlehem, Albany County, New York, while residing there, served about three months Captain James McGee's New York company. 

He was allowed pension on his application exe-
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cuted April 17, 1818, at which time he was sixty-five years of age and living in Decatur, Otsego Country, New York.  He died February 14, 1835

The soldier, Silas Green, married in New Brittain, New York, February 4, 1778, Lydia Griffith. The date and place of her birth and names of parents were not given.

 The widow, Lydia Green, was allowed pension on her application executed November 14, 1837, then a resident of Martinsburg, Lewis County, New York, and aged seventy-eight years. 

Reference was made in 1821 to the family of the soldier as follows - his mother-in-law aged eighty four years, her name not given; daughter, Lavinia, thirty-seven years old; son, Walter, twenty years old; and two granddaughters, Ruth, ten years of age, and Adelaide, nine years of age, their surname was not stated. 

A son, Willard Green, was thirty-nine years of age in 1839, then a resident of Martinsburg, New York. 

William Griffith, brother of the widow, Lydia Green, was seventy-eight years old in 1837 and a resident of Worcester, Otsego County, New York. 

The papers in this claim contain no further reference to family. 

Very truly yours 
A. D. HILLER 
Executive Assistant 
to the Administrator
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Albany 

Silas Green act 1818 to what time period?
—- VL 

Died 14th Feb 1835 10% that period
—- JH
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Please inform me when Lydia Green, NY Rolls, Act 1836, $80 a year, was last paid
————Very Respectfully 
S. Vale
Choltk [?]

Triplett

R J Atkinson Esq 
3rd Auditor
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Lydia Green paid to 4 Sept 1841
Robt J Atkinson
Auditor

M. Randall
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New York
Lydia Green
Sent
Sets to L. Knox — May 28 ‘38
“ to same 6 April 1839

Act July 1836
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“Official business”

Hon. Loren P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
D of C

Lydia Green
Silas - NY - a 1836

[postmark Martinburgh NY Apr 23]
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May 3/35
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Pension Office 
May 3 1855 
Sir 
If Lydia Green widow of Silas of NY lived until July 1 1848 she was entitled to $96 a year instead of $80 from that date until her death. I presume she did not live so long and consequently was never entitled. She could not be entitled to more than $80 a year no matter her long her husband served.

M. Hudson Stephens Esq.
Martinsburgh 
Lewis Co
NY
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Martinsburgh, Lewis Co. New York- 

Hon L. P. Waldo
Sir.

A Pension certificate granted
2d Feby 1840. ^ Act of 1836 ^ to Lydia Green widow of Silas Green, has been put into my hands with instructions from her son to obtain the amount remaining when the same, and undrawn. The same is Recorded in your office in “Book A. Vol 2, page 208 by D. Brown” -- payt to be made in Albany N.Y. by T. W. Olcott

I desire to learn 
2d the length of time it was proved he served in the War of the Revolution, where his pension was granted, under act of 1818 ?
I desire this to ascertain whether his widow is not entitled to increase of Perncion, under act of 1832

I have no other way of ascertaining the period of his service —

Any instructions & forms adopted to Similar cases, would be thankfully rec’d - if any thing can be obtained. —
 
April 23, 1853
Yours tc, 
W. Hudson Stephens
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The matter of the Application of Lydia Green for Pensions

L. Knox aty
 Lowville
N. York
Supp afft
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Free
K.M. Davis, P.M.
New Brittain NY

L. Knox
Lowville
Lewis Co. NY

9
13
25
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Town of New Lebanon 
Columbia County 
Kenneth M. Davis being duly sworn before me says that he has made inquiry as to the successor of the Reverend Mr Troop and that the church in which he was settled has been dissolved and no record of Marriages solemnised by said Troop can be found in New Lebanon or Cannaan and that said Deponent has been informed by the oldest inhabitant of said town that there were no records of Marriages kept by said Troop at the time said Troop resided in Canaan
K.M. Davis
 Subscribed and sworn before me Oct 21st 1839  Ira Hand Justice 

Town of New Lebanon Columbia County Benjamin A. Hall, Clerk of the town of New Lebanon being duly sworn before me says that he has searched the records of said town and can find thereon no records of marriage solemnised by by the Reverend Mr Troop 
Benjn A Hall
Town Clerk

 Subscribed and sworn before me Oct 21, 1839 Ira Hand Justice 
Columbia County Clerks Office 
I Killian Miller Clerk of the County of Columbia Do hereby certify Ira Hand his before whom the two above affidavits purports to have been sworn was on the day of the date of the same a Justice of the Peace in & for said County and further that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice. And verily believe the name of the said Justice subscribed to the said affidavit to be his proper hand writing signature In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name & affixed the seal of the said County this 29th day of October 1839  K Miller
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Free
K.M. Davis P.M.
New Brittain NY

L. Knox
Lowville
Lewis Co NY
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New Brittian Dec 10th 1838 
Yours of the 1st December received and requesting an a mediate Reply i must say to oy i have taken a great pains in searching in to this matter but in relation to the persons which Miss Green named in her letter to me was all persons that had once been inhabitants of this place but are all since departed this life with one Exception Adaliah Davis an uncle of mine was living some thing like one year since but is in the remote part of the State and I am not able to hark the place and as for the Mr. Throop who was the person that married the Miss Lydia Green had moved west and has been dead for many years and as for Records of any kind there is none to be found neither in town or Church, sir in case you with an affidavit please State in the manner your wish it made or send me a coppy and the maner you wish it complyed with and I will attend to it a mediately on the amount of my neglect in writing you was because I was tring to obtain some information for your benefit but I can receive none your most Respectfully & Knox Esq K.M. Davis
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Received Mar 22 1937

Daisy E. Erb
Genealogist - Heraldist
Coats of Arms
Illuminated Manuscripts, Patriotic and Religious Texts
415 Lakewood Road
W. Palm Beach Fla.

Attention
Rev. Records
Director
Veterans Administration,
Washington D.C.

Dear Sir,
Will you please send me any further information you can about one Silas Green or Greene.
Our (only) man could me (be?) from Mass - New Marlboro or from Monroe Co N.Y. or Rochester.
We think wife was Elizabeth Smith or Almira Smith.
Will be very grateful for any informaton you can give me.

Very Sincerely Yours
Daisy E. Erb
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1937 - April 8 [illegible] to Daisy E. Erb

Rev. Widow, &c.

File No. 17031

Lydia Green

Wid. of

Silas Green

Priv. Rev. War

Act: July 4, 1835

Index: Vol. A, Page 290

[Arrangement of 1870]
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Jan. 28, 1839

Add: proofs

Lydia Green


Z. Knox,
Louisville, Lewis Co. N. Y.
Agent


Along side:

This 2 day of January, 1838 
Carlos P Scovil Clerk
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State of New York
County of Lewis

On this 2nd day of January 1839.

Personally appeared before the [illegible] a Justice of the peace of the said county Willard Green of Martinsburgh in said county aged thirty nine years who being duty sworn ascending to law doth depose and say that Lydia Green widow of Silas Green late of Decatur Otsego County New York is his mother.  That he said Silas Green was a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress of March 18, 1818
and that he died on the 14th day of February 1835
and that the said Lydia Green has remained a widow ever since that period.  That this [illegible] has caused inquiry and diligent search to be made to obtain a record of the marriage of his parents but has not been able 
to procure any evidence of their marriage other than the affidavit of his uncle William Griffith whose affidavit is on file at the War Department and who is now dead.  That the clergyman the Rev. Mr. Throop who administered the marriage of his said parents this [illegible] has learned died many years since and that no town or church record can be obtained to prove said marriage and that [illegible] knows of no other evidence in relation to the marriage except this affidavit of his said uncle on file as aforementioned that the said Lydia Green is now living and resides in the town of Martinsburgh aforesaid

Willard Green

Subscribed & Sworn the day
& year aforesaid before me
Ela Collins, Justice of the Peace

I further certify that the said
Willard Green is to me well known as a person of truth and veracity & his statements, entitled to credit.

Ela Collins, Justice of Peace
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State of New York Clerks Office Lewis County I Carlos P. Scovil Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Ela Collins Esq before whom the within affidavit was taken was at the time of taking such affidavit a Justice of the Peace in & for said County Commissioned and duly qualified and further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of said Justice and verily believe his name subscribed to said affiant is genuine Given under my hand and seal this 2d day of January 1838 Carlos P. Scovil Clerk