Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 7624, Frederick Harp, Penn.
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Service                                         Number
Penn.         Harp, Frederick.        W7624
                   Herb, Catharine
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R.J. Atkins
_____. Jun 18/56

N11188
Pennsylvania
Frederick Harp
of Luzerne Co in the State of Penna, 
who was a Private in the company commanded
By Captain Knairs of the troops commanded 
by Gene Bowers in the Penna Militia
Sve for 17 months Private $56.66

Inscribed on the Roll of Pennsylvania 
at the rate of 56 Dollars 66 Cents per annum, 
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 10th day of April
1833 and sent to Pensioner
Wilkesbarre Pa

Arrears to the 4th of March 1833.             113.32
Semi-Anl. allowance ending 4 Sep 1833.   28.33
                                                                     $141.65

Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by D Brown Clerk
Book 1.  Vol 5.  Page 23
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Ohio 1218   ____
Catharine Harp
widow of Frederick Harp
who served int eh Revolutionary war, as a Private
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 56 Dollars 66 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1848. 
Certificate of Pension issued the 22nd day of Augt 1856 and sent to 
Miller V Brown
Present
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act [page torn]
29, 1848, Page __3. Vol, _

___ Miller & Wilheim
Sept 19/56
1856 Sept. 19 Suspended
___ to Pen, ag. ,  adn , & ___Compt
1856 Dec 9. Miller & Williams
1857 May 14, To Sarna, also 
to Pensioner Clg, directing him to pay 
on proper name from & to 3rd Aug.
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Declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the  act of congress of the 7 Jun 1832

State of Pennsylvania
Luzerne County __

On this eighth day of January AD 1833 personally appeared before the Court of Common please of Luzerne  County Frederick Harp of resident of Huntington Township Luzerne County and State of Pennsylvania aged seventy six years, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7 1832.  That he enrolled in the Army of the United States and served under the following officers as set forth. 
That he was born in East District Township Berks County Pennsylvania in the year 1756 - in what period of the year he does not know - tho he has no record of his age - but knows there coo one in the Church books of East District.
That about the commencement of the revolutionary war he was notified at East District in Berks County, he thinks in 1777 in Capt Henry Knairs Company.
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___ Jacob Gaber was also a Leutenant in said company. Said company formed a part of General Bowers Brigade. That he marched to Amboy in N. Jersey, and after a tour of two months, he enlisted in the same company for a period of five months (at Amboy) and marched from thence to White Plains in New York and was stationed generally at Hampsbridge at the expiration of his time of enlistment. He was discharged. He had a written discharge which is since lost. That on this deponent thinks about two years afterward he [illegible] at East District in Berks County aforesaid for ten months in a company of Sistoh troop, commanded by Capt Nathan Hatfield in Colo Barney Haits Regiment in the brigade of General Anthony Wayne and generally stationed on Valley Forge. That he was in the battle of Brandywine. That he _____ Generals Lafayette and Washington during the day of the battle of Brandywine. 
That he served out his time of enlistment and was discharged.  
______ his discharge.
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That since the Revolutionary War he has resided in East District aforesaid till the year 1810. Then he moved to Columbia County in said state when he resided till the year 1814. From thence he moved to Huntington Luzerne County, his present place of residence. He never held any office in the service.
That he knows of no one now living who was with him in the army, whose testimony he could procure, and he hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension role of the agency of any state.  He would refer to Elias Dodson a clergyman of Huntington, John Koons and Dr Chas. T Christell as person acquainted with him and competent [ ]  as to his general character. And also Shodroke B Laycock also a clergyman. 
Sworn & Subscribed in open court this Jun 8, 1833
H Pettebone, Pro.
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John Koons aged thirty six years & appears being duly sworn in open court deports and says that he is well acquainted with the above named Frederick Harp and has known him for 15 years and more.  That he has full confidence in the declaration of said Harp and believes it to be a true statement. and that said Harp has been deported to be among his friends and neighbor a soldier of the Revolution. 
That he knows the above named Shodroke B Laycock and Elias Dodson to be regularly ordained clergymen and [. ]
Sworn & subscribed in 
open court this Jun 8th 1833    
H Pettebone, Prob

John Koons
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The State of Ohio, 
 Montgomery County, Il
On this twelfth day of June, AD one thousand eight hundred and fifty-four, personally appears before me, the undersigned, a Notary Public within & for said county and state, Catharine Herb (alias Harp) aged ninety four years, a resident of German Township, Montgomery County, in the State of Ohio, who being duly sworn according to the law, declares that she is the widow of Frederick Herb (or Harp) deceased, who was a private in the Army of the United States, in the Revolutionary War, that her said husband enlisted at Berks County, Pennsylvania one the year 1777 and continued in actual service in said war for the term of one year. She further states that she was married to said Frederick Herb (or Harp) in Montgomery County in the State of Pennsylvania, in October 1798, by Rev Frederick Geisenhammer. That her name before her said marriage was Catharine Eikolf, and that her said husband died at Montgomery County, Ohio on 21st November, 1833 and that he drew a pension of fifty even dollars each year prior and to September, 1833 and lastly that she is still a widow. 
She makes the above declaration for the purpose of securing the pension due her as the widow of said deceased according to the acts of Congress providing for the same. 

Attest
Daniel J Guncke
A Gunckel

Catharine Herb (her mark)

Sworn to and subscribed before me the day & year first above written

___ Gunckel
Notary Public
M. _____
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The State of Ohio, 
Montgomery County, __
Personally appeared before me the undersigned, a Notary Public within and for said county and State, Jacob Herb, a citizen of said county and State, who made solemn oath that he is well acquainted with the written armed Catharine Herb (or Herb) and was well acquainted with her deceased husband Frederick Herb (or Herb). That he knows she is the person she represents herself to be, that he knew her husband Frederick Herb or Herp was in the Revolutionary War of the United States. That he was in the Battle of Brandywine, in Capt K___ or Kreinilaws Company. That he was in the 'flying Camp" and was in actual service about one year, being the year of 1777. 
He lived at the time of said war in District Township, Berks County of Lucerne in said State of Pennsylvania, and afterwards moved to Montgomery County, Ohio, where he died on the 21st day of November, 1833. That said Catharine Herb or Herp (widow) was married to said Frederick Herb or Herp (deceased) in New Heammonn Township, Montgomery County in the State of Pennsylvania in the month of October A. D. 1798 by the Rev. Frederick Geisenhammer, a Lutheran Minister.

Jacob G_____

Sworn to and subscribed before me, 
Witness my hand and official
Seal, this 12th day of June 1884
___Gunckle
Notary Public
M.C, O
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The State of Ohio
Montgomery County, __
Personally appeared before me the undersigned, a Notary Public within aforesaid county and State, John Herp, a citizen of German Township, county of Montgomery and State of Ohio, who makes solemn oath that he is well acquainted with the within named Catharine Herp or Herb. That he was well acquainted with her husband Frederick Herb (or Herp). Knows them to have been married int he year 1798 in Montgomery County in the State of  Pennsylvania. That said Frederick Herb (or Herp) was in active service in the Revolutionary War of the United States in the year 1777. That he (said affiant) drew for deceased a pension in September 1833. The last drawn by said deceased. That the papers authorizing said pensions have been lost. He (affiant) further saith that he witnessed the death of said Frederick Herb (or Herp) on the 21st November, 1833. And that the pension drawn up to 1833 was fifty seven dollars each year and that said Catharine Herb (or Herp) now resides in German Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, and is the person she represents herself to be.

John (X, his mark) Herp

Sworn to and subscribed before me, Witnessed by hand and official seal this 12th day of June A. D. 1854

__Gunckel
Notary Public, 
M.C,O
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I herewith certify that, having examined the Records of the German Lutheran Congregation, in New Hanover Township, Montgomery Co. Pa I found that Frederick Herb, Widower, and Catharine Egold, were married by Rev. Frederick  Geissenhaimer, then Pastor of said congregation, which marriage took place on Nov 5, 1799

Nathan Jaeger, 
present Pastor of the above congregation. 

State of Pennsylvania
County of Berks
on this twenty seventh day of May A.D. 1856 personally came before me George Printz and alderman of the City of Reading and ex  officia a Justice of the peace for and in the said County, Nathan Jaeger who being duly sworn according to law says: That the above certificate contained a true statement of the facts on record in the Church book of the German Lutheran Congregation in New Hanover Township Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

Sworn & subscribed before me this 27th day of May A.D. 1856
Witness my hand & seal the day and year above. 

George Printz (seal)
Alderman _ _,P

Nathan Jaeger
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State of Pennsylvania
County of Berks
Josiah Hearing, Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas of said county, Do Certify that George Printz, before whom the annexed affidavit was made to an acting Alderman and ex-officio Justice of the Peace of the city of Reading, county of Berks, duly commissioned and qualified to administer oaths and affirmations, and to take acknowledgments, &c., and to all whose acts, as such, full faith and credit are and ought to be given, as well in Courts of Judicature as elsewhere, and that his signature thereto is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court this 27th day of May A.D. 1856, 
Josiah Hearing Prothonotary
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February 23, 1927

William W. Neifert
810 Dayton Savings & Trust Bldg.
Dayton, Ohio

Sir:
I have to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim W. 7624, it appears that Frederick Harp or Herb was born in 1756 at East District Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania. 
He enlisted at said place "about the commencement of the Revolutionary War" and served five months as a private in Captain Henry Knox or Knaus' Pennsylvania Company, and about two years later, he enlisted and served ten months as private under Captain Nathan Hatfield, and Colonel Barney Hart, and was in the battle of Brandywine. 
He was allowed pension on his application executed January 8, 1833, while a resident of Huntington Township, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. He
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died November 21, 1835 in Montgomery County, Ohio. 
Soldier married November 5, 1799 in New Hanover Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, Catharine Ekoff or Egold. She was allowed pension on her application executed June 13, 1854, while a resident of German Township, Montgomery County, Ohio, aged ninety-four years. 
It is stated that soldier was a widower at the time of the above marriage, but his wife's name is not given, nor any details as to that marriage. When soldier died he left two sons and one daughter, only name stated being, John who was born in May 1802, and was living in Montgomery County, Ohio in 1854. 
Respectfully, 
Winfield Scott
Commissioner.
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1927 - Feb 23 Hish to William
W Neifert aug

Revy WIDOW, &c.

File No. 7624
Catharine Harp
Widow
Frederick Harp
Pri. Rev War
Act: July 29, 1848
Index:  Vol A, Page 304
Arrangement of 1870
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We Elias Dodson and Shodrack B Laycock Clergymen residing in the Township of Huntington Luzerne Couty, Pa hereby certify that we have been and are well acquainted with Frederick Harp who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be seventy six years of age. That he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides, to have been a soldier in the revolution and that we concur in that opinion. 

Elias Dodson
Shadrack B Laycock

Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid 
Jonathan Westover 
____ of the ____
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Adm
17 mos
private
5666
Pensioner 
Wilkes Barre Pa
And the said Court hereby declare the opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogations prescribed by the War department and the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and that he served as he states and the Court further certify that it appears to them that Elias Dodson & Shodrake B Laycock, who here signed the preceding certificate are clergymen resident in the Township of Huntington in the said county of Luzerne and that John Koons and ____ Charles J Christell, who have also signed the preceding certificate are all resident of Huntington Township and are creditable persons and tat their statements are ____ to credit. 

J Henry Pettebone Prothonotary
of the Court of Common Please
of Luzerne County certify that the ____contain the original, preceding in the matter of the application of Frederick Harp for a pension.  In tesimony wherof I have herewith set my hand and seal of office this 8th day of January one thousand eight hundred and thirty three.
H Pettebone, Proth
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Charles J Christell aged 53 years and appears being duly sworn in open court deports and says that he has known the above applicant for a pension since his residence in Huntington and believes him to have been a soldier of the Revolution. And he has full confidence in the truth given. and that is deemed and____ among his friends and neighbours to have been a soldier of the revolution.
That he knows Elias Dodson & Shadrock B Laycock to be ministers and _____ ordained clergymen. And ______saith not. 

Charles J Christell
Sworn and subscribed in open court this Jan 8, 1833
H Pettebone, Proth
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The State of Ohio, 
Montgomery County, 2
On this 26th day of September, A.D. one thousand eight hundred and fifty-four, personally appeared before me the undersigned, Probate Judge in and for said county and State, John Harp, of lawful age, and a resident of said County and State, who makes solemn oath that he is a son of Frederick and Catharine Harp, and is aged fifty two years May 1854. That his father resided originally in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Afterwards moved to Lucerne County, Pennsylvania, and then into Montgomery County, Ohio on 8th November, 1833. That his father died two weeks after his arrival. That his mother Catharine Harp, the present applicant, has continued to reside with him and supported by him ever since. That she has not been married since the death of his father Frederick Harp, and still remains his widow. That his father drew a pension and he said applicant drew it for him. The last time he drew the pension was at Wilkesbarre, the county seat of Lucerne County, Pennsylvania, in September, 1833. Thinks he drew about fifty seven dollars.

Attest 
Wm Gunckle

John (X, his mark) Harp
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State of Ohio. Montgomery County Js

I the undersigned Judge of the Probate Court within and for said County which Court is by the Constitution and laws of said State a Court of law and record and of which Court I am sole Judge and clerk, duly commissioned and qualified to act, do herby certify that John Harp whose signature appears to the foregoing declaration signed the same in my presence and was duly sworn before me. And I further certify that the signature attached to this certificate is my true and genuine signature.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed 
my signature and the seal of said Court at Dayton this 28th day of September A.D 1854
Youngs P Wood
Probate Judge
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The State of Ohio, 
Montgomery County
On this twenty sixth day of September, A>D. 1854, personally appeared before me the undersigned, Probate Judge for said County and State, Catharine Harp, widow of Frederick Harp, deceased, a resident of German Township, in the said County of Montgomery and State of Ohio, aged ninety-four years, who being duly sworn, according to law, doth, on her oath make the following declarations, in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress, passed Juy 29, 1848. 
"Frederick Harp was a private in Revolutionary War. Was at the Battles of Brandywine and Battle Forge. That he served under Captains Knaus and Kaumline for a term of six months in the year, A.D. 1777. That he enlisted in District Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania. That she further declares that she was married to teh said Frederick Harp in the month of October of the year A.D. one thousand seven hundred and ninety eight, in New Hanover Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, by Rev. Frederick Geisenhammer, a Lutheran Minister. That her husband died on the 21st day of November, A.D. 1833 in Montgomery County, Ohio, (being the aforesaid Frederick Harp). That she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the second of January, eighteen hundred. __ at the time above stated. 
She further swears that she is now a widow, and that she has never before made any application for a pension. 
Catharine (X, her mark) Harp

Sworn to and subscribed on the day & year above written, 
Before me
Youngs P Wood
Probate Judge
Attest
wm Gunckle
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State of Ohio Montgomery County Js

I the undersigned Judge of the Probate Court within and for said County which Court is by the Constitution & laws of said State a Court of law & record and of which I am sole Judge & Clerk, duly commissioned and qualified to act do herby certify that Catharine Harp whose signature appears to the foregoing declarations was unable by reason of bodily infirmity to attend personally at this Court and whereupon the above declaration was signed and sworn to by her before me at hr residence. And I also certify that the signature affixed to this certificate is my true and genuine signature. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my signature and the seal of said Court at Dayton in said County on this 28th day of September, A.D. 1854
Youngs P Wood
Probate Judge
M Co, Ohio
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The State of Ohio
Montgomery County Js
On this twenty sixth day of September, A.D. one thousand wight hundred and fifty-four, personally appears before me the undersigned Probate Judge in and for said county and State, Jacob Harp, a resident of said county and state, who made solemn oath that Frederick Harp, deceased, who was a private in the Revolutionary War, was married to Catharine Harp, (the applicant herewith for a Pension) in the month of October, A.D. one thousand seven hundred and ninety eight. That they were married at the hands of the Rev Frederick Geisenheimer in _____ Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.  That he knows them to have lived together as husband and wife from that time to his death in 1833, having left two sons and one daughter. That no license or public records of marriages were required at that day, and the minister who performed this marriage ceremony is not know by applicant to be living, & at the time of the said marriage he was thirty or forty years of age. And does not believe that any private record was kept of the marriage, & does not know of any records of the births of the children And further says that he is unable to fi the time of the ______ of the marriage of said Frederick Harp to Catharine Harp. From the fact that he lived with said Frederik Harp at the time of his marriage was then nineteen years of age, and continued to reside with him until he was twenty three years of age, and until he was married. And further that said Frederick Harp and his wife Catharine Harp came to Ohio in the year 1833 and said Frederick Harp died in two weeks after his arrival at the home of applicant. That he has been acquainted with said Catharine harp ever since the decease of her husband, Frederick Harp, land knows her to be his widow, and has not since been married. And
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further that said Frederick Harp in his life time drew a pension for his services in the Revolutionary War, from the Government of the United States
Jacob Harp

State of Ohio Montgomery County Js
I the undersigned Judge of the Probate Court within and for said county which Court is by the Constitution and laws of said State a Court of law and record and of which Court I am sole Judge & Clerk duly commissioned and qualified to act, do herby certify that Jacob Harp whose signature appears to the above declaration signed the same in my presence and was duly sworn before me, and I further certify that the signature attached to this certificate is my true and genuine signature
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature and the seal of said Court at Dayton this 28th day of Sept A.D. 1854
Youngs P Wood
Probate Judge
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The State of Ohio, 
Montgomery County, SS
On this twenty-ninth day of July, A.D. one thousandth weeks after his arrival in said county from Pennsylvania eight hundred and fifty-six, personally appeared before me, a Notary Public within and for said County and State, Jacob Harp and John Harp, who being duly sworn, according to law, depose and say that Frederick Harp, died, husband of Catharine Harp, and applicant for Bounty land, died at the residence of said Jacob Harp in said County and State two weeks after his arrival in said county from Pennsylvania, being in the month of November or December, A.D. 1835. That the said _____ attended the funeral of said Frederick Harp and witnessed his burial.
Said affiant further stat that the said Catharine Harp is the widow of said deceased. 
Jacob Harp
John (X, his mark) Harp

Attest
John Stump
Wm Gunckel

The foregoing declaration and affidavit was sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written, and I certify that I know the aff___ to be credible persons, _______ my hand and Notarial Seal this 29th day of July, A.D 1856
Wm Gunckel
Notary Public
M.C.O
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Brief in the case of Catharine Harp widow of Frederick
Montgomery County and Sate of Ohio
act July 29, 1848

Claim (original)
Proof exhibited, (if original.)

Is the documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? I either, state the substance
Her husband was pensioned under the [can't read] at $56.66 a year Died in 1835
Record [.  ] of marriage

Cohabitation, general reputation of marriage, her identity as the [.      ] widow. His death in 1835 then present [.        ]
by credible witnesses

Thornton Niplett
Examining Clerk

Name and residence of Agent
_____. Miller _____
present
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Pension Claim Suspended under act of 48
Catharine Harp of Ohio
Miller & Brown
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Washington Aug 6th/56

Hon J Minot
Comm of pensions
We herewith enclose your additional evidence in the case of Catharine Harp applicant under act of 48 (See Ohio susp files)
This evidence is to establish the date of her husbands death. We believe the same witnesses state the same time as her application for her bounty land. (We are not eh attys in that case but have seen the papers) we refer the Department to them for further Jacob
These same witnesses if we remember correct place
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date of husbands death the same in bounty land papers that it is here mentioned by them . So, these ought to  be same wight attached to what thy have aversed in both cases. Heretofore the same witnesses made affidavits in her application for a pension both say the parties lived together as man and wife. Both state that they knew the parties in Penn. Both testify that they came to Ohio and Harp died some two weeks after his arrival, but were mistaken in their former affidavits as to the year. 
This issue ______ on life every day we often
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can call to mind all incidents attending the history of individuals, but will mistake the year in which they tran___ ____. We hope this case were again be taken up and acted upon. We think there is sufficient evidence on file to establish indentity and the widow ought to be allowed her pension. 
 We are yours true
Miller & Brown
P S Gunkels Notary cases
is in file we think in your office
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Newhanover, May 28/56

Mr Breitenbach,
Dear Sir.
Enclosed you'll find the desired
Certificate. There is a discrepancy
in the Orthogrately-- You spelling
the name Harp, while the original
true spelling, as found on the Church
Record, is-Herb. But I am satisfied &
convinced in my own mind of the personal identity. I've been under some little expense & also put to some trouble in having this matter
answered.
Respectfully yours
Nathan Jaeger
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Catharine Harp
Andow of Frederick

Montgomery Ohio

and 29 July 1848
$56.66 a year from
Act 1848

Cert to
Messrs. Miller & Brown
Present
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Germantown, Ohio [Month] 12,1855
[salutation} Miller & Brown
Attorneys
Washington City
Gentlemen, 
Having made out quite a [.     ] of applications the Pension office for Bounty Land, and there be9ing an occasional one with which there is "no go" for want of the proper evidence, I apply to you upon the recommendation of my Brother LB Gunckel of Dayton, to give me some aid, especially in the case referred to below.
An ol lady, named Catharine Harp, of this township, aged 94 years ( and being in destitute circumstances), is the widow of Frederick Harp, deceased, who was a private in the Company commanded by Capt. Knouse, in the Revolutionary War having been drafted at Reading, Berks County, Pa in 1777. She was married to said F. Harp in 1777 by one Guseinheimer, a Lutheran Minister..  Her husband drew a pension of about $57 annually until his death, which occurred in 1835. The last pension he drew was in 1835. The widow now desires to secure what she may be
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entitled to.  I made out her application for her pension some six months since, and received a reply that her marriage must be proven.  This cannot be done. I proved (as you will see by reference to the papers) in the Pension office by two witnesses, that she was known to cohabit with her husband as man and wife, as is customary in such cases, but to no avail. I recently made out another application for her for bounty land with about the same proof as in the former application. There is no one living who saw them married, and there is no family around, but she is unquestionably the woman and should have a pension and the arrearages. I proposed to her that I would secure her pension and land for twenty dollars. Now if you will aid me in securing the object, I will give you one half of said sum for your services 
Please examine the applications I forwarded to the Pension office and inform me what course to pursue to secure the object. 
All the applications I have forwarded were acknowledged before me as a Notary Public.  Will this answer? If not would it do to forward you my commission?
Let me hear from you at your earliest convenience. 
Yours truly, 
___ Gunckel
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Germantown, Ohio,
May 5, 1855.

To the Com. of Pensions___
You will herewith receive
the application of Catharine Harp,
for bounty land and Pension arrears.
If all found right, of which I entertain
no doubt, please forward Warrant &c to me

& oblige
truly yrs
Wm Gunckel
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127838

To the Com. of Pensions
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Catharine Harp
applicant for a pension under 
Act of 1848
Suspended. See
Ohio files__
A letter___

Miller & Brown

[Illegible] it is stated that she was married in 1797
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Pension Office June 28th/56
Hon J Minot
Com of Pensions
We have rec d your favor of Date relation to the date of the death of Frederick Harp, husband of Catharine who is now an applicant for a pension under act of 48. Frederick Harp did not take up residence in Ohio until late in the year of 1835. 
The applicant, and the witnesses who state that Harp died in 1833 are certainly mistaken in the date, which will be seen by referring to the widow's application for bounty land now in file under act of 55, No 127,838.  It is there stated by the widow herself that he drew a pension as late as Sept 35, and died in Dec of the same year. Her witnesses state the same thing, that Harp died in 1835. We file a letter of her own atty setting forth the same thing. We think it sufficiently clear, that the witnesses state in the application for her pension to be erroneous in as much as they commit the same blunder as to date of her marriage, (although ____) they state that she was married in A.D 1798, and in one place it was stated that she was married in 1797.
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 But when we came to get the recent evidence we find they were in a slight error, and that she was married in A.D. 1799 and if they made an error in one part of the case in statement, it is natural to suppose that they were mistaken in the other also. Many persons may, and do have a very distinct remembrance of facts, but when they come to date them, their memories will fail. 
We hope the case will be _____ with the papers in the bounty land case. 
We would unite the parties but we desire to _____ as much delay as possible. 
We remain yours
Miller & Brown
PS Suspended under act of 48, __ A G files
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Catharine Harp
Frederick
Ohio - Sus & 48

Miller & Brown
Crane
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Pension Office
June 25, 1856
Gentleman, 
The proof of marriage filed by you in the Case of Catharine Harp, widow of Fred'k
is deemed satisfactory to show that that event took place prior to 1800. ___ to bring the claim under the provisions of the Act of July 29, 1848.  It however, appears from the Berks of the Third Auditor, that the Fred'k Harp of Luzerne Co, Pa, who was inscribeded on the rolls of the state under the Act of June of 1832 , at the rate of $56.66 per ann., was living on the 4th Sept, 1834, at which time he recv'd his semi annual payment, whereas the husband of the present claimant according to the testimony filed, dies on the 21st Nov, 1833.  This discrepancy must by explained before a certificate can be issued to the Catharine Harp represented by you. 
Mssr. Resp Lions Minot
Com ___ ___ 
Mssrs Miller & Broom
Present
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Pension Office Aug 18/56
Hon J Minot
The Affidavits of the two Harps are intended to be filed with the application of Catharine Harp now suspended under act of 48 (See Ohio suspended files, Revolutionary)
We are 
Miller & Brown
PS Mr Harp is an applicant for a pension under act of 1848
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Additional proof
in the case of
Catharine Harp
for a
pension under act
of 1848

Miller + Brown
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Washington June 8th/56
Hon J Minot
Com of Pensions
Sir
We hencewith enclose our proof of marriage in the case of Catherine Harp claimant for a pension under act of 1848. We suppose the difference int eh spelling of the name will not in itself be __festion to its allowance as the pension as the letter of pastor of church will fully explain. Which we also file 
We hope to see the claim reexamined at the earliest convenience. 
We are very respectfully yours
Miller & Brown
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Hamilton O, Nov 19/56
Hon Geo C Whiting
Com of Pensions
Dear Sir. We wrote you Sept 8th relative to payment of arrears of pension due Catharine Harp at time of her death and under date of Sept 19th we informed that the legality of the question of payment had been submitted to and was there before the Atty Genl.
Will you please advise us of his decision and give us the necessary instructions in the ____
Very Respectfully
Miller & Williams
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Treasury Department
Third Auditors Office
June 23d 1836

Sir
I herewith return the papers on
which Frederick Harp was inscribed on the
Philadelphia Pa. Agency, at $56.66 per
annum, under act of 7 June 1832, enclosed
in your letter of the 18th inst; & in reply
have to inform you that his pension has
been paid to 4 Sept. 1834.
Very Respectfully
Your Obt. Servt.
Robt Jamieson
Auditor

J. Minot Esqr
Commr. of Pensions
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Sept 13/56
Cath Harp
Ohio __
Nav__Su
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Hamilton O, Sept 8th/56
Hon J Minot
Com of Pensions
Washington D.C
Dr Sir. 
Catharine Harp of this state to whom you recently issued a pension  Certificate died before it was received and it is now necessary to make a new application on behalf the heirs over arrears. 
Will you be so kind as to send us the necessary forms for said application and very much oblige you abt ____.
Miller & Williams
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Hamilton O, May 6/57
Hon G C Whiting
Sir
Some months ago a pension certificate No 1.218 was issued under the act of July 29/48 to Catharine Harp widow of Frederick Harp. In the mean time the widow died of which fact we informed the department. We were informed the question of the right of the heirs was before the attorney general and would soon be decided. We were afterward informed by our clerk, S Crane, Esq , who as your chief clerk is aware, transacts our business before your department that the question had been decided favorable to heirs and that the pension would be paid in Cincinnati to the administrator without the delay and expense of cancelling the old and issuing a new certificate. We then had the papers made out at considerable trouble delay and expense as the heirs live in a distant county and presented them to the Pension Agent in ____ who  said payment had been suspended by order of the department. We thereupon wrote Mr Crane to call upon you in relation to the matter and in reply he wrote us as follows on March 17/57
Yours of --- date is at hand containing certificate
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of pension of the late Mrs Harp is ___. I took it to the Pensions Office and received full instructions for the proof to be made and present the same to the pensions Agent at Cincinnati.  He will be bound to pay the same. If he was instructed not to pay it it must have been given him before the recent decision of the Atty General was made. 
Thereupon we again prepared another set of papers and proof of death _____ and presented to the Pension agent yesterday who says the name is still on his suspended list and that the order for suspension has not yet been revoked. We supposed it has been oversight yet one which has put us considerable delay and inconvenience. We enclose the old certificate, also the papers made out in order to draw her pension, upon which please either countermand the suspension of claim from payment by Captain Green agent at C_____ or send us a certificate payable to the administrator John Harp. 
Yours respectfully
Miller & Williams
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No. 1362
Catharine Harp
widow of Frederick
Ohio
Wm Gunckle June 2, 1854
Wm Gunckel 10th Oct 1854
________ June 18/56
Miller & Brown
June 35/56
Same Aug 18/56


July 29 1848
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Catharine Harp
Ohio - Sus79_,48

To the Commissioner of Pensions
Revolutionary Dept
Washington City
D.C.
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Hon J Minot
Com of Pensions
Washington D.C,
Official

Miller
Wm E Brown
Israel Williams
Miller, Brown & Williams
Attorneys at Law
Hamilton, O.
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To the Com of 
Pensions
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Germantown, Montgomery Co
Ohio
Oct 2, 1856
To the Com of Pensions
You will herewith receive the paper relating to the application of Mrs. Catharine Harp, widow of Frederick Harp, dec'd, for pension.
Her claim is undoubted
Yours truly
Wm Gunckel, Agent for widow.
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Germantown, Ohio, June 14, 1854
To the Com of Pensions. 
You will herewith receive the application of Catharine Harp for unpaid pension of her deceased husband. She is very old (as you will perceive) and if ever there was a worthy & needy case for public favor this is one. She is poor and destitute and I have volunteered to attend to her interests free of charge. I refer you to our Representative Hon S. D. Campbell.
Yours truly
Wm Gunckel
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Ohio Society Sons of the American Revolution
Richard Montgomery Chapter
810 Dayton Savings & Trust Building

Board of Managers
President - -  William W Neifert
Vice-President - Max G Dice
Secretary-Treasurer - Miles S Kuhns
Registrar - - Ira H Vogt
Chaplain - -  Rev. Allen k Zartman
Louis G Battelle
Reuben R Holmes

Dayton, Ohio
February 12,1927
Commissioner of Pensions, 
Washington D.C.

Dear Sir:
(Attention Miss Wilson, Division of War 1812 and Revolutionary War)
May I have the record of one Frederick Harp, who is supposed to have served in the Revolutionary War, from Penna. (perhaps New Jersey) though the Penna. Archives fail to give him any war service, but there is a record that he applied for a pension from Luzerne County, Penna. august 10, 1833, at the age of 78 years. There is also a tradition that his widow Catherine Harp was granted a pension sat his death.  We desire this information, if available, to enable a descendant by the name Harp of this locality, to qualify for membership in  the S.A.R  Thanking you
Very respectfully, 
Wm W. Neifert, Prest. 
Richard Montgomery Chapter, S.A.R.