Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 30,811, John Young, Va. And Indian Warfare In Ky.
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Service: Virginia and Indian Warfare in Kentucky. John Young. Number: S. 30,811. B.L. Reg. 275729-1855. Son of Reuben Young. Soldier married Mary Moore.
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32,842
Kentucky
John Young
of Greenup Co. in the State of Kentucky
who was an Ex(press) Rider in the -- commanded
by Captain Crouch of the -- commanded
by Col. Stubblefield in the Virginia Revolutionary
line for 2 years
Increased from $240
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky
at the rate of 480 Dollars -- Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 24 day of January
1852 and sent to 
Hon. Ben E. Gray(?)
Arrears to the 4th of --
Semi-annual allowance ending

Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.

Recorded by H. H. Macklando Clerk,
Book E2, Vol. Z(?), Pa

[Notes in right hand margin mostly illegible; seem related to dates of correspondence.]
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State of Ohio, Lawrence Co.
October 24, 1842
From the Church Records of the
Baptist Church, called Ohio, John
Young was received as a member of
said church in December 1806, and
at the said time was licensed to 
preach, and on the fifth sabbath 
in October 1807 was ordained as
pastor of the said church, which
office he continues to fill, when not
hindered by the infirmities of old
age; he is also moderator of the 
Ohio Association, He has sustained
a good moral character since my
acquaintance with him, which is at least thirty
years, and implicit confidence can 
be placed in his word; and I have 
frequently heard Elder Young speak of
his services in the Revolutionary War, as
an Express.
- Reuben Kelley, Church Clerk

Greenup County (illeg.)
This day personally appeared before me
James Stewart a Justice of the Peace for said
County Reuben Kelley and being duly 
sworn deposes and saith the above statement
is Just and True and further this deponent
saith not. - Reuben Kelley
Sworn to and subscribed to before me a justice
of the peace at my offices in Greenup County, Ky.
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Given under my hand this 24th day of 
Oct 1842.
James Stewart, J.P.

And I do hereby certify that I have
been acquainted with Ruben Kelley for some
fifteen or sixteen years and I believe
him to be a very correct man and has acted
as assistant Judge in Lorane(?) County Ohio
for some ten or twelve years and I believe
as far as I have ben (sic) acquainted with
Judge Kelly I believe him to be a man
of Truth and Credibility and Also I 
can say with Judge Kelly as it [respects?] the
within named Young is a man of Truth.
Given under my hand this 24th day of
Oct 1842. - James Steward, J.P.

State of Kentucky, Greenup County Sct.
I William Corum, Clerk of the Court of Greenup County
certify, that James Stewart is a magistrate as above, and
that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto
affixed my seal of office and subscribed
my name  this 3d day of Novermber in 
the year 1842. - William Corum
Clerk of the Court of Greenup County.
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I, Mary C. Lee, of Mason County and State of Kentuc-
ky, and daughter of Richard Young who was Quarter
master at Fredericksburg in the State of Virginia,
State, that I was living with my Father, in Frederic-
ksburg in the year of seventeen hundred and seventy-
eight, and know that John Young, who is a resident
of Greenup County, Kentucky was a rider of express
from the above named time until the close of the war
of the revolution; as set fourth (sic) in his declaration, from
my knowledge of John Young as a man of respectability
and truth I believe his declaration contains the truth.
November 9th 1842. I am in my seventy third year.
- Mary C. Lee. 

Personally appeared before me the undersign (sic) a Justis (sic)
of the Piece (sic) in and for the County of Mason and state of
Kentucky, Mary C. Lee, a resident of the above named
County and State who is a woman of respectability truth
and pietty (sic), and from appearance is seventy three years
of age, subscribed and made oath to the truth of the above affidavit
November 11th 1842. Given under my hand
- C. W. Owens, J.P.
of Mason County, Ky. 

State of Kentucky, Mason County Sct. 
I, John James Key, clerk of the court for said County certify that
Conquest W. Owens whose name appears to the foregoing
certificate is now and was at the time of signing the
same an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said
County duly commissioned and qualified by law, 
and that full faith and credit are due and ought
to be given to all his official acts as such, and that
the foregoing signature purporting to be his
is genuine. In testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand and affixed the seal of said County at
Washington this 11th day of November 1842.
- Jno. Jas. Key.
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Application
for
Pension
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State of Kentucky Greenup County Sct

On this 16th day of April A.D. 1857
personally appeared before me a Justice of
the Peace in and for the county and state
aforesaid Mary Young a resident of Greenup
County in the state of Kentucky aged Eighty Seven
years who first being duly sworn according
to law doth on her oath make the following
declaration in order to obtain the Benefit of the
provision made by the act of congress passed
July (illeg.) 1848. That She is the widow
of John Young deceased who was an Express
Rider and Soldier of the revolutionary war and
pensioner of the United States at the rate of four
hundred and eighty dollars per annum with a
Deduction of two hundred & forthy per annum his
name being inscrived on the pension Rolls and
paid at the Kentucky agency, She further
declares that she was married to the said John
Yong (sic) on the 12th day of March AD 1784 by one
Ambrose Dudy a minister of the Gospel and that her name before her said marriage was Mary Young. She was
married in Spotsylvania County Virginia That
her husband the aforesaid John Young died in
Greenup County, Ky on the 25th day of March
AD 1855 and that she is now a widow having
never remarried Since her said husband's death
as will more fully appear by reference to the
affidavits of Joseph Willis and Seymore Harding.
That said John Young was pensioned under the act of Congress approved June the 7th 1832 Baring (sic) 
date January 24rh AD 1852 That from
old age and Bodily Infirmity she is unable 
to attend Court for the purpose of complying
with the rules of the pension office. She further
states that she has not received a pension under
this nor any other act of Congress nor made any...
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other application therefor. The commissioner of pensions will please Send my certificate and all communications to the care of William N Snowden of Kiddville Ky
May Youg

We Joseph Willis and Seymore Harding upon our oaths declare that we ar well acquainted with Mary Young and have been for thirty years past. That we were well acquainted with John Young the husband of said Mary Young and that they lived and cohabited together as man and wife for at least the period above mentioned That said Mary Young is now confined to her bed and has been for Eight months, and is not able to stand in court when sitting, for the purpose of making this declaration. That the Said John Young died on the 25th day of March 1855 That Said Mary Young has never intermarried Since his death and that She is now the widow of the afursaid John young deceased
Seymore Harding
Joseph Willis

The foregoing declaration and affidavits were sworne to and Subscribed before me on the day and year above written and I Certify that I know the affiants to be credible persons that the claimant is the identical person she reppresents herself to be and 
[all handwritten]
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that I have no interest in this Claim [illegible] and I further State that the Said applicant Mary Young is now confined to her bed and unable to travel or attend court when sitting
Jefferson Keaton JPGC

State of Kentucky
Greenup County
I William Crum Clerk of the County Court of Greenup County, certify that Jefferson Keaton is a Magistrate as above, and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name this 17th day of April 1857
William Crumm Clerk of 
the County Court of
Geenup County, 
[all handwritten]
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275.729
Application 
For
Bounty Land

Rev War
(Special
T. Cole
[illegible]

Wm N Snowden Atty
Kiddville
Clark Co
Ky
[all handwritten]
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State of Kentucky }
County of Greenup} SS
on this  th 16th of April A D 1857
personaly appeared be fore me a Justice of the peace with in and for the county afo and state aforesaid Mary Young a resident of said County and State aged 87 years who being duly sworn according to law declaes she is the widow of John Young deceaed who was an Express [illegible] and soldier of the revolutionary war and pensioner of the United States 
She further states that she was married to the said John Young in Spottsylvania County in the State of Virginia on the 11th day of March AD 1784 By one Ambrose Dudly a minister of the Gospell that her mam before her Said marriage was Mary Moore that her Said husband died at his residence in Greenup County Kentucky on the 25th day of March AD 1855 and that She is now a widow at the date of Executing this her claim, She referes to her declaration for a pension [illegible] for proof of Marriage + She makes this declaration for the perpose of obtaining the Bounty land to which She may be intitaled under the act approved March the [illegible] AD 1855 She further declares that She has never appiled for nor recivd a warrent for Bounty land under this nor any other act of Congress nor made any other application therefor The Commissioner of pension will pleas send my warrent and all communication to the care of Wm N Snowden of Kiddvill KY
       her 
Mary X Young
      mark
[all handwritten]
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We Seymore Harding and Wm F Harding 
upon our oathes declare that the foregoing 
declaration was Signed and acknowledged
by Mary Young in our presence and that we 
know the applicant to be the identical 
person She represents herself to be and that
we are not interested in this claim.
                       Seymore Harding
                       Wm. F. Harding

The foregoing declaration and affidavit
were sworn to and subscribed before me on the
day and year above written and I
certify that I know the affiants to be
credible persons that the claimant is the
person she represents herself to be and
thatI have no interest in this
claim
                     Jefferson Keaton  JPGC

State of Kentucky
Greenup County
I William Corum Clerk of the County 
Court of Greenup County, certify that Jefferson Keaton is a
Magistrate as above, and that the foregoing signature purporting
to be his is genuine.
                  In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed 
                  my seal of Office and (unknown word) my name
                 this 17th day of April 1857
                            William Corum
                                  Clerk of the Court of Greenup County
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State of Kentucky)
Greenup County)   sct
                           Greenup County Court
                                November Term 1842
                      On the Seventy day of November 1842
eighteen hundred and forty two personally appeared
before the County Court of the County of Greenup
John Young a resident of the County of Greenup
and state of Kentucky aged seventy eight years the 
twenty fourth day of August last ________ - who
being first duly sworn according to the Law doth on
his oath make the following declaration in Order 
to Obtain the benefit of the provision made 
by the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.

                    That he entered the Service in 
the Spring of Seventeen hundred and Twenty
eight as a substitute for his father Reuben 
Young in Captain James Crouchen Company 
and Colonel George Stubblefields regiment 
in the County of Spottsillvania State of Virginia.
That they marched to Cabbin Point to 
where the Regiment rendesvoused and remained 
there three weeks from thence marched to Petersburg
where the Regiment was discharged making a 
tour of thirty five days--And Then he was 
enlisted in The United States Army on the 
Virginia Continental line and a rider of express
from North to South That he was enlisted 
by Richard Young who was Quarter Master a
Fredericksburg in the month of August
Seventeen hundred and Seventy eight That his 
 was twelve dollars and fifty cents per
month By the Orders if Brig Gen George Creeden
who was a General of the Continental Army and
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…stationed at Fredricksburg Seat he was enlisted for and during the War. When General Weedon wanted draught of militia or supplies from the following counties he could take him from the regular rout(e) and send him to the Cols of the Counties viz Spotsylvania, Louisa, Ablemarle, Augusta, Rockingham, Shannandoe, Frederick, Hampshire, Berkley, Orange, Stafford, King, George, Westmoreland, Richmond, Lancaster, and Northumberland Seat he was kept constantly riding from North to South except when taken A by Gen. Weedon to carry an express to the Colonels of the above named Counties Seat a great fact of his service was performed in (the) night and he was frequently in great danger of being taken by Col Tarltons Light Horse he was sent to Little York with an express directed to Col Timothy Pickering who was quartermaster general and was detained thereby led Pickering until after the siege to carry express from one part of the Army to the other. That he saw Lord Cornwallis surrender to Gen Washington - and he was sent with the first intelligence of the surrender of Cornwallis to the north - and then he was helpt [helped] in service as a rider of express when it was necessary - and the balance of this time was engaged in taking care and collecting the public property until the last of April Seventeen hundred and eighty two and then he was discharged by Gen George Weedon which discharge he has lost by reason of his coming to Kentucky
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the fall after he recieved it he states he served forty five days as middleman and three years and eight months a rider of express in the Continental Service, making in all three years and nine months that he was in the service. He further states that there was not any man rendered more service than he did that he was taken out of the ranks and put as rider of express which much harder and more dangerous he was frequently in great danger of being taken by the British and had to be exposed to all sorts of weather, was very near freezing to death several times. That there was no man whose services was of more importance than his - that all the important communication was such issued to him that he has frequently rode from Fredericksburg to Richmond and back to Fredericksburg in twenty four hours making one hundred of fifty miles bearing express from Gen Washington to Gen Green and back to Gen Washington. He further states that in the month of Sept. 1782 he came to Ky with Richard Young and then returned to VA in the same winter and married his present wife on the 12th March 1783 whose name was Mary Moore and then returned to Kentucky the June of 1787 and was in every expedition against the Indians that was after he got to Ky was with Gen Wilkinson, Scott and Waynes Campaignes [campaigns]. He hereby relinquishes his every claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except the present
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and he declared that he is not in the pension roll of any agency in any state or Territory of the United States.
John Young

November 7th Amendment to the Declaration 

He states that it said he was born August 24th 1764 and entered the service in his 14 year and was married the 12 March 85 in his twenty first year and moved to Ky at the time stated above and has lived in the above named state ever since.

John Young

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion that the above mentioned applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he stated.

Jesse Corum
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 24045

John Young 1st
Kentucky
Greenup Co

Rejected, service 
performed as express
rider not founded for 
per letter May 07  31 
As Gen Thomson Ward

Gen Thomson Ward
Greenup County Ky
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WAR DEPARTMENT
Pension Office,

183

Sir, 
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned.    the following is a statement of your case in a tabular form.    On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed.    The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done.  Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, 
(thus:  } ).  You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.

A Statement [in bold lettering], showing the Service of John Young [handwritten] 
Greenup County State. of Kentucky. [handwritten]

[first column]
Period when the service was rendered.
1779 [handwritten]
[second column]
Duration of the claimant's service.
Years.  Months.  days.
time not stated [handwritten]
[third column]
Rank of the claimant.
Ride Express [handwritten]
[fourth column]
Names and rank of the Field officers under who he served.
Genl. Weedon [handwritten]
[fifth column]
Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service.
66 yrs  Spotsylvania  State of Virginia [ handwritten]
[sixth column]
Proof by which the declaration is supported.
Traditionary Guidance Only [handwritten]

[at the bottom of columns]
I am respectfully, 
Your obedient servant,
J.L. EDWARDS, 
Commissioner of Pensions.

The different services not distinctly Stated [handwritten]
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.

The following regulations have been adopted:

This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of ths law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service. 

Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops.
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.
4. Indian Spies.

As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law of officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.

DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.

State, Territory or District of 
County of

On this ______________ day of ______________ personally appeared (a) before __________ A. B. a resident (b) of ____________ in the county of ____________ and State, Territory, or District of _______ aged (c) ________ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _________, with ________ and served in the ___________ (e) regiment of the _________ line, under the following named officers: 

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and name of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [image of hand with index finger pointing to the next sentence] This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of ______________

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. A. B.

[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, an dserved as he states.

I _____________ of the Court of ______________ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of ____________ for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day _____________ &c.

If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in nots (j) points out.

Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz: ____________

(k) We, A.B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____________ and C.D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with ______________, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be ______________ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.

Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.

[And then will follow the certification of the Court.]

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the ____________ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the ____________ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I, _____________ Clerk of the Court of __________ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____________ for a pension. 

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this _____ day of ________ &c.

Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge of commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.

If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case  The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detection the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be ex-expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what yar were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6. { To a Solider. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it?
{ To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a solider of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -- one of whom would be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary solider, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates. 
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a  Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court. 
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or Cunty, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of this act of July 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.

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[a] the declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity, in which case the declarant will  follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must intention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under which he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length  of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned before, and in the following grades; -- For -- year -- months, and -- days, I served as a --. For -- months and -- days, I served as a --; and for such service, I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the [italics] about three or four months, [end italics] is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely that they served two years in the militia, & c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or place- where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the timing of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
L.P. The notes from [a] to [i] are equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only. 
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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June 4, 1934.




This summary was written before county court papers (Ref. 275-727-55) were added to file on 3-27-1951.
CS. [handwritten}

Ronald B. Murph                                                                            BA-J/ILL
Box 365                                                                                          S. 30811
Minden, Louisiana.                                                                         John Young

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the records of a number of soldiers of various wars:  Alexander Watson, War of 1812, Mordecai Williams, possibly Revolutionary War or War of 1812, a soldier with surname Raison, John Young and Fletcher Mavity, all Revolutionary War soldiers, and one Albert Brasell of Alabama, Georgia or South Carolina, who, after the Emancipation Proclamation, freed about 150 slaves.

There is no claim for pension on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of Fletcher Mavity, Mordecai Williams or a soldier with surname Raison.  The pension records of the War of 1812 and of the Indian Wars between the Revolutionary War and War of 1812 have been searched also, and no record found of applicationssfor pension based upon service during that period of an Alexander Watson as described by you or of a Mordecai Williams.  It is presumed by your description of Albert Brasell that he would have been a Confederate soldier, in which instance this office would not have his record.  It might be obtained from the archives of the state from which he served.  The record of John Young, the Revolutionary War soldier, has been found and is furnished herein as found in pension claim S. 3081, based upon his service in that war.  No other John Young of Greenup County, Kentucky, has been found on the Revolutionary War records of this office.  Pension claims which have been made to the United States are the source of data furnished by the Veterans Administration relative to the above named wars.

John Young - S. 30811.

John Young, son of Reuben Young, was born August 24, 1764; his father was stationed at Fredericksburg, Virginia, in charge of a magazine
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during part of the Revolutionary War under Richard Young, his brother, Quartermaster, at Fredericksburg; said Reuben Young and his wife and children were there then, John, being the eldest; no other names shown.

John Young enlisted in the spring of 1778, in Spotsylvania County, Virginia, and served thirty-five days as substitute for his father in Captain James Crocher's company, under Major George Stubblefield in the Virginia troops.    In August 1778, he was taken from the ranks by his uncle, Richard Young, Quartermaster at Fredericksburg, and became an express rider, in which capacity he served until the last of April 1982; during the period of this service, he carried confidential messages  between General George Weedon and the Colonels in the different counties in Virginia, made many trips during the night when he was exposed to great danger, frequently covered the distance between Fredericksburg and Richmond, Virginia, within twenty-four hours;  he was present when Cornwallis surrendered and rode with the first intelligence to the North; he also rode to North Carolina.

In the fall of 1782, the soldier went from Virginia to Kentucky with Richard Young, then returned to Spotsylvania County, Virginia.  He married in that county, March 12, 1784 or 1785, Mary Moore; the names of her parents are not shown.  They moved in the fall of 1787 to Kentucky, where John Young served in all the campaigns against the Indians with "Scott, Wayne and Wilkinson".

John Young was a minister in the Baptist Church from 1796; in 1807, he was ordained pastor in that church; he lived from 1806 in Greenup County, Kentucky.  In 1842 he was moderator of the Ohio Association of the Baptist Church, and was referred to as Elder Young.

He was allowed pension on his application executed March 18, 1851, then a resident of Greenup County, Kentucky.  He died March 15, 1855.

In 1857, soldier's widow, Mary Young, was a resident of Greenup County, Kentucky, aged then eighty seven years.

IN 1842, Mary C. Lee was a resident of Mason County, Kentucky, aged seventy-two years;  she stated that she lived at Fredericksburg, Virginia, with her father, Richard Young, at the time John Young served there; the name of her husband was not stated.


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There is no reference to children of the soldier in this claim for pension.

Very truly yours, 
A.D. Hiller
Assistant to Administrator.

The correspondence in this claim & in John Young R 10962 - were read by Mrs. Finch.  The other John Young is not the same - he was born in Orange Co - Va - served for Henry Co - Va - and went to Bracken Co. Ky - * ILL 
[handwritten across middle of page]


3.
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Declaration

In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832
State of Kentucky
County of Greenup
On this seventh day of November eighteen hundred and forty two personally appeared before the County Court of the County of Greenup John Young a (illegible) resident of the County of Greenup and State of Kentucky aged seventy eight years the twenty-fourth day of August last passed who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. 

That he entered the servis [service] in the spring of seventeen hundred and seventy eight as a substitute for his father Reuben Young in Captain James (Grouchem?) Company and Colonel George Stubblefield regiment in the County of Spottsylvania [Spotsylvania] State of Virginia that they marched to Robbin Point to where the regiment rendezvoused and remained their [there] three weeks from there marched to Petersburg where the regiment was discharged making a tour of thirty five days. And then he was enlisted in the United States Army on the Virgina Continental line as a rider of express from the North to South. That he was enlisted by Richard Young who was Quartermaster at Fredericksburg in the month of August Seventeen hundred and seventy eight. That his wages was twelve dollars and fifty cents per month by the order of Brig. Genl. George Weedon who was a Genl of the Conteninetal [Contenintal] Army and stationed at Fredericksberg [Fredericksburg] that he was enlisted for and during the war. When Genl. Weedon wanted a draught of militia or supplies from the following counties he would take him from the regular rout(e) and send him to the Cols of the Counties viz Spottsylvania [Spotsylvania], Louisa, Albemarle, Augusta, Rockingham, Shanadoe [Shenandoah], Frederick, Hampshire, Berkley, Faquire [Fauquier], Lowdon [Loudoun], Prince, William, Fairfax, Culpepper, Orange, Stafford, King George Westmoreland, Richmond, Lancaster and Northumberland.
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That he was kept constantly riding from North to South except when taken off by Genl Weeden to carry an express to the Colonels of the above mentioned Counties. that a great part of his servises was performed in the night and he was frequently in great danger of being taken by Col Tarlton’s Light Horse. That he was sent to Little York with an express directed to Col. Timothy Pickering who was Quartermaster  Genl and was detained their by Col Pickering until after the seag [siege]to carry express form one point of the army to the other the most of this servis [service] was performed in the night. That he saw Lord Cornwallis surrender to Genl Washington and he was sent with the first intelligence of the surrender of Cornwallis to the North. And then he was kept in servis [service] as a rider of express when it was necessary and the balance of his time he was engaged in taken care and collecting the publick [public] property and the last of April seventeen hundred eighty two and there he was discharged by Genl George Weeden which discharged he has lost by reason of his coming to Ky the fall after he received it. He states that he served thirty five days as a militiaman and three years and eight months as a rider of express in the Continental Servis making in all three years and nine months that he was in the service. He further states that their [there] was not any man that rendered more servis [service] than the did; that he was taken out of the ranks and put as a rider of express which was mutch [much] harder and more dangerous he was frequently in great danger of being taken by the Brittish [British] and had to be exposed to all sorts of weather was very near freezing to death several times. That their was no man whose servis [service] was of more importance than his that all the important communications was intrusted [entrusted] to him. That he has frequently rode from Fredericksburg to Richmond and back to Fredericksburg in twenty four hours making 140 miles bearing express from Genl. Washington to Genl. Green and back to Genl. Washington. He further states that in the month of September of seventeen hundred and eighty two he came to Kentucky with Richard Young and then returned to Virginia in the same winter; and married his present wife on
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the 12th day of March seventeen hundred and eighty five whose name was Mary Moore and then mooved to Kentucky in the fall of eighty seven and was in every expedition against the Indians that was after he got to Ky was with Genls Wilkinson, Scott and Waynes Campaigns. He herby relinquishes every claime whatever to a pention or anuity except the present and he declares that he is not on the pention Roll of any Agency in any State or Territoy of the States. John Young is sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. Jesse Corum. 

November 7th Amendment to the Declaration 1842. 
He states that it is said that he was born August 24th seventeen hundred and sixty four; and enlisted the servis in his fourteenth year and was married the 12th of March eighty five; in his twenty first year and moved to Kentucky at the time stated above and have lived in the above named state ever since. 
John Young

Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. 
Jesse Corum

And the Court said to herby declare their opinion that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states. -Jesse Corum

I William Corum clerk of the Court of Greenup County in the State of Kentucky do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Young for a pension. 

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this seventh day of November one thousand eight hundred and forty five. - William Corum Clerk
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This is to certify that we the undersigned have been acquainted with the Reverend John Young for the last thirty or forty years and therefore are satisfied that he is a highly honorable old Gentleman and of strict honor and [illegible word] and deserves to be believed when on Oath – Given under Our hands this 8th day of Nov 1842.  S.B. and that he was unrefuted soldier of the revolutionary  War.
[handwritten]
Thompson Ward
J.C. Kernes
Will Conner 
Greenup County 
This is to certify that the foregoing were duly sworn in Open Court and that they are persons of reputable character & ought to be believed when on Oath – Given under my hand as presiding justice of the present court – Given under my hand this 8th day of Nov 1842
Jesse Corum KY
[handwritten]
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32.842. [handwritten]
Kentucky [handwritten]
John Young [handwritten] of ________________in the State of Kty [handwritten] who was a Private [handwritten] in the _______commanded by Captain_______________ of the _______________commanded by ________________in the _____________line for 2 years [handwritten]
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky [handwritten] at the rate of 80 [handwritten]Dollars---------Cents [lined through]per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of pension issued the 5 [handwritten] day of April 1851 [handwritten]. and sent to G.H. Monserat Louisville, Ky [handwritten]

Arrears to the 4th of

Semi-annual allowance ending     

Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832 [stamped]

Recorded by H.E. Robinson [handwritten], Clerk
Book E. 2 Vol. 7[handwritten] Page 55[handwritten]

530811 [handwritten verticcally]
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32842
Kentucky 
John Young

of Greenup Co. in the State of Ky. 
who was an Express River in the ——- Commanded 
by Captain ——— of the ——— commanded 
by ———— in the Revolution
for 2 years. 

Inscribed in the Roll of Louisville
at the rate of 240 dollars 00 cents per annum, 
to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 20th day of June
1837 and sent to 
S. F. J. Trabue Em.

Arrears to the 4th of Present
Semi-annual allowance ending

—ed from $80

{Revolutionary Claim}
{Act June 7, 1832}

Recorded by HR Weightman Clerk
Book E2 Vol. 7 Page 55
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State of Kentucky
County of Greenup

On this 19th day of May of 1857. Before me William Kouns an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid. Personally appeared John Young a Resident of Greenup County aforesaid who being duly sworn according to law declares that in addition to his former declaration that an order was issued by General George Weeden of the United States Army, which order was delivered to Richard Young the Quarter Master at Fredericksburg Virginia, that a young man should be engaged at Fredericksburg, to serve as an Express Rider for and during the term of the War - one who could be depended on for his honesty and fidelity and one who would continue until the close of the war. He further states that he was taken to General Weedon by said Richard Young to know whether he would suffi(ce),and after the inspection and examination was had, said General Weeden was pleased with and gave orders to said Richard Young the Quarter Master to engage his nephew for and during the term of the war to serve as an Express Rider, That he was accordingly engaged as
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an Express Rider to serve for and during the term of the War in the Spring of the year (1778) seventeen hundred and seventy eight and con-tinued without intermission in the service until the month of October (1782) seventeen hundred and eighty two, the agreement made and entered into, was that he was to serve for and during the term of the War - which he did with honor and fidelity, riding day and night carrying Express from the North to the South and from the South to the Northand whenever he was orded. He also swears that in October 1782 he received a militia dischage from the hands of & in the handwriting of General George Weeden, in which discharge it was stated that he had served his Country faithfully in the War of the Revolution, as an Express Rider to the final close of the War. General Weeden stated in giving him the dischage that the war was over & that there was no more work for him to do as an Express Rider. Said Young farther states that he lost his discharge in moving about in the State of Kentucky. That he was called out in frequent skirmishes after the Indians - that in his first removal to Kentucky with his family in 1787, He was allowed to remain at home.
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only one day when he was drafted in Captain Delanys Company and in the third day started off with his wife on a five weeks tour after the Indians. 

John X Young
(his mark)

— W. Ramsay
Wm G. Willis

Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year above written and I hereby certify that I am well and personally acquainted with Rev. John Young and that he is a credible witness a man of unblemished character and a Minister of the Gospel for the last fifty five years in good and regular standing.

Wm Kouns JDH(SS)

State of Kentucky
County of Greenup

I William Corum Clerk of the County Court in and for the County and State abovementioned do hereby certify that William Young whose genuine signature appears to the foregoing affidavit declaration and power of attorney is and was at the time of signing the same, in and for the Court and State aforesaid Justice of the Peace duly Commissioned and sworn that all his offi-
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(offi)cial acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit and that the aforesaid County Court is a Court of Record having general jurisdiction, given under my hand and seal of office at Greenup [illegible] by my this 22nd day of May A.D. 1857. 

William Corum Clerk

Centerfold text
John Young (Illegible)
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30811
INVALID

File No. 30811
John Young
Ex. Rider Rev War

Act: June 7th 32
Index:—Vol. 2, Page 497

[Arrangement of 1870]

Opposite Page:
June 4 - Hist. to Ronald B. 
Murph ILL.
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275720
Act March 3 1835
June 13 1857

Mary Young 
Widow of 
John Young
Special 

Revolutionary War
Ky Act 32 -- 32842

Mrs. N. Snowden
Kiddville
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Declaration
In order to obtain the benifit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832.

State of Kentucky, County of Greenup.
On this seventh day of November eighteen hundred and forty two personally appeared before the County Court of the county of Greenup John Young a resident of the County of Greenup and state of Kentucky aged seventy eight years the twenty fourth day of August last past who being first sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benifit [benefit] of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7th 1932.  That he entered the service in the spring of seventeen hundred and seventy eight as a substitute for his Father Reuben Young in Captain James Couch on company and Colonel George Stubblefield's Regiment, in the county of Spotsylvania state of Virginia.  That they marched to Cabbin [Cabin] point to where the regiment rendeavoued [rendezvoused] and remained there three weeks from thence marched to Petersburg where the regiment was discharged making a tour of thirty five days.  And then he was enlisted in the United States Army on the Virginia Continental line as a rider of express from North to South.  That he was enlisted by Richard Young who was Quartermaster at Fredericksburg in the month of August seventeen hundred and seventy eight.  That his wages was twelve dollars & fifty cents per month by the order of Brig Gen’l George Weeden who was a Gen’l of the continental Army and stationed at Fredericksburg.  That he was enlisted for and during the war.  When Gen’l Weeden wanted a draft of militia or supplies from the following counties he would take him from the regular rout [route] & send him to the Col. Of the counties viz. Spotsylvania 
Louisa Albemarle

[United States Army is underlined]
[handwritten on left side initials "Zs" which is circled]
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Augusta Rockingham Shanandoa [Shenandoah] Frederick Hampshire Berkley Fauguiess [Fauquier] Louden [Loudoun] Prince William Fairfax Culpepper Orange Hafford King George Westmoreland Richmond Lancaster and Northumberland. That he was kept constantly riding from North to South except when taken off by Genl Weeden to carry an express to the above named counties. That a great part of services was performed in the night & he was frequently in great danger of being taken by Col. Tarlton's Light horse. That he was sent to Little York with an express diverted to Col. Timothy Pickering who was Quartermaster Genl. and was detained there by Col. Pickering until after the siege to carry express from one point of the army to the other the most of this service was performed in the night. That he saw Lord Cornwallis surrender to Genl Washington & he was sent with the first intelligence of the surrender to the North. [Written between this line & the previous one are two illegible letters with this number: 19181] And then he was kept in service as a rider of express when it was necessary and the balance of his time he was engaged in taking care and collecting the public property until the last of April seventeen hundred and eighty two & then he was discharged by Genl George Weeden which discharge he has lost by reason of coming to KY. the fall after he recd [received] it. He states that he served thirty five days as a Militiaman and three years & eight months as a rider of express in the Continental service making in all three years and nine months that he was in service.  He further states that there was not an man that rendered more service than he did; that he was taken out of the ranks and put as a rider of express which was much harder & more dangerous; he was frequently in great danger of being taken 
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taken by the Brittish [British] I have to be exposed to all sorts of weather was very near freezing to death several times. That there was no man whose service was of more importance than his that all the important communications were intrusted [entrusted] to him. That he has frequently rode from, Fredericksburg to Richmond and back to Fredericksburg in twenty four hours making 150 miles bearing express from Genl. Washington to Genl. Green and back to Genl Washington  He further states that in the month of September seventeen hundred and eighty two he came to Kentucky with Richard Young and then returned to Virginia in the same winter & married his present wife on the 12th day of March seventeen hundred & eighty five whose name is Mary Moore & then moved to Kentucky in the fall of eighty seven and was in every expedition against the Indians that was after he got to Ky. was with Genl. Wilkison[underlined] Scott and Waynes Campaigns.  He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and he deserves that his is [insert]not[\insert] on the Pension roll of any agency in any State or Territory of the U. States.
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year)
aforesaid  Jesse Corum[?]                         )  John Young
November 7th Amendment to the declaration 1842  He states that it is said, that he was born August 24th seventeen hundred and sixty four and entered service in his fourteenth year and was married the 12th of March eighty five, in his twenty first year and moved to Kentucky at the time stated above & have lived in the above named State ever since.
John Young
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
Jesse Corum[?]
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And, the said Court do hereby declare this opinion that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served, as he states.
Jesse Corum[?]

I William Corum Clerk of the Court of Greenup County in the State of Kentucky, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original preceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Young for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this seventh day of November one thousand eight hundred and forty two.
William Corum, Clerk.

Seal[handwritten & circled] 
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This is to certify that we the undersigned have been acquainted with the Reverend John Young for the last thirty or forty years and that we are satisfied that he is a highly honorable old Gentleman and of stricct [strict] honor and probity and deserves to be believed when on oath - Given under our hands this 8th day of Nov. 1842.
          N.B. And that he was a re-    )Thompson Ward.
          spected Soldier of the           ) J. C. Kerney.
           revolutionary War                  ) Will. Conner.

Greenup County Jct[?]:
This is to certify that the foregoing persons were duly sworn in open Court and that they are persons of reputable character  & ought to be believed when on oath. Given under my hand as presidin justice of the present Court --
Given under my hand this 8th day Nov. 1842.
Jesse Corum G[or J].A G.C.[? difficult to read]

State of Ohio Lawrence Co.
October 24th 1842
From the Church Record of the Baptist Church, called Ohio, John Young was received as a member of said Church in December 1806, and at the said time was licensed to preach, and on the fifth sabbath in October 1807 was ordained a pastor of 
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of the said church, which office he continues to fill, when not hindered by the infermities [sic] of old age; he is also moderator of the Ohio Association, He has sustained a good moral character, since my acquaintance, with him, which is at least thirty years, and implicit confidence can be placed in his word; and I have frequently heard Eld. Young speak of his services in the Revolutionary War, as an express.
Reuben Kelly, Church Clerk

Greenup County, Set.
This day personally appeared before me James Stewart a Justice of the Peace for said County Reuben Kelly and being duly sworn deposes and saith the above statement is just and true and further this deponant saith not. 
Reuben Kelly.

Sworn to and subscribed before me a Justice of the Peace at my office in Greenup County Ky.
Given under my hand this 24th day of Octr. 1842.
James Stewart, J. P.

And I do hereby certify that I have been acquainted with Reuben Kelly for some fifteen or sixteen years and I believe him to be very correct man and has acted as assistant
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assistant Judge in Lawrence County Ohio for some ten or twelve years and I believe as far as I have been acquainted with Judge Kelly I believe him to be a man of truth and credibility and also I can say with Judge Kelly as it respects the written name Young is a man of truth.
Given under my hand this 24th day of Oct. 1842.
James Stewart J.P.

State of Kentucky, Greenup County Set.
I William Corum Clerk of the Court of Greenup County, certify, that James Stewart, is a magistrate as above, and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his genuine. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name this 3d. day of November in the 1842.
William Corum, 
Clerk of the Court of Greenup County. 
{seal}

I Mary C. Lee, of Maren County and State of Kentucky, and daughter of Richard Young, who was Quartermaster at Fredericksburg in the state of Virginia, State that I was living with my father, in Fredericksburg in the year of seventeen hundred and seventy eight, and know that John Young; who is a resident
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resident of Greenup county; Kentucky was a rider, of express from the above named time until the close of the war of the revolution; as set forth in his declaration, from my knowledge of John Young as a man of respectability and truth. I believe his declaration contains the truth. November 9th 1842. I am in my seventy third year.
Mary C. Lee

Personally appeared, before me the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the county of Mason and State of Kentucky, Mary C. Lee, a resident of the above named County and, State, who is a woman of respectability and truth and piety, and from appearance is seventy three years of age. Subscribed and made oath to the truth of the above affidavit. November 11th 1842. Given under my hand. 
C.W. Owens, J.P. of Mason County Ky.

State of Kentucky  Mason County Set.
I John James Key clerk of the Court for said county certify that Conquest W. Owens whose name appears to the foregoing certificate is now and as at the time of signing the same an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly commissioned & qualified by law, and that full faith & credit are due and ought to be given to all his official acts as such, and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine.
In
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In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said county at Washington this 11th day of November 1842
Jno. Jas. Key

{Seal}

[large flourish]
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MADISONIAN OFFICE

I HEREBY CERTIFY, that the accompanying pages numbered from 1 to 9, inclusive, are truly copied from the originals in the Office of the Commissioner of Pensions.
J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions.

BE IT REMEMBERED, That James L. Edwards, who has signed the foregoing certificate, is Commissioner of Pensions; and that to his attestations full faith and credit are and ought to be given.

[seal]

IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and cause the seal of the Department to be affixed, on this thirtieth day of December in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty-three. 
J.M. Porter
Secretary of War.
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11963
John Young
REJECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18

Application filed [crossed out]: ______, 18

The printed Act of 1852 gives cases of suspension of John young of Greenup Co. Ky - 

Alleges: "The name is trulie [sic] found on the Virginia rolls, but the evidence is not complete to identify as any one of them"
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John Young Act '32 -- Kentucky -- 
$480
Mr Cole will address a letter to the Pension agent as suspending payment of this pension
JEH 
Write to day.
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John Young
Kentucky
Rejected service performed as an express rider not provided for.
See letter May 17 1833 To [illegible] Thompson
Papers sent to Hon A. Davis H.R. February 7, 1834
Act 8 Jan 40 Hon G Davis. copies of papers sent to Hon R French Dec 30 1843.

See John Young - R.11962
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Increase,
John Young
Ky
Act 7 June 1832.
Adn 2 yr Ex Rider $480
per An: deduct former paymnts at the rate of $240 per an:

Cert to 
Hon B. Edwards Grey,
H of Reps.
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John Young
Ky
Act 7 June 1832
Ad 2 p per $80 per ann
[illegible] 4 Mar 1831

[illegible]
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Revr John Young
The Hon. Mr French of the Ho. Reps requests the open flow of all records in this case:--
Referred to the Secretary of War, - who is requested to continue the case; & should he deem it [illegible], he may in his discution [sic] take the opinion of the Attny Genrl if he should have doubts -- [illegible] any legal [illegible] in the case [illegible] 27th 1849; J.H.P.D. 54, Rec Feb. 1, '49
Settle of Hon R French pension claim of Rev. John Young
Pension Office
See over.

[written on top of and perpendicular to main body of text]
Pension Office
Hon. R French 
House of Rep
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May 22, 1934-
Kindly research Old War Cards for 
1. Alexander Watson - 1812 - Southern States - No Clm 
2. Mordecai Williams - Va - or Ky Sudian Wars - 1812 - war. No Clm 
Thanks - Mrs. Irene L. Lerch - 
Nary Building

5/23/34
J.K.C
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[stamp, clock hand indicates 3:00]
RECEIVED
MAY 22 1934
PENSION INDEX SECTION
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Increase, [underlined]
John Young
Ky.
Act 7 June 1832. 

Ad. 2 yr Express Rider $240
per An: from 4 March 1831.
Deduct former paymts
at $80 per ann
Payable to him.

Cert to S. F J. Trabue
Present.
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THIRTIETH CONGRESS--FIRST SESSION.
Report No. 211

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

JOHN YOUNG.

February 9, 1848.
Laid upon the table.

Mr. COCKE, from the Committee on Revolutionary Pensions, made the following

REPORT:

The Committee on Revolutionary Pensions, to whom were referred the petition and papers in the case of John Young, report:

The committee on Revolutionary Pensions, of the 28th Congress, have had this case under consideration, and have made an adverse report for want of sufficient proof to establish the service claimed by the petitioner. Since which time some additional testimony has been filed in the case, but your committee can discover nothing in this additional proof which would warrant them in arriving at any other conclusions, with regard to this case, than those to which a former committee have come. 

See decision see of Marc Feb 8 1849 filed with [illegible]
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THIS IS TO CERTIFY, That it appears from a list in this office of such Officers and Soldiers of the Virginia Continental Line as settled their accounts and received certificates for the balance of their Full Pay, according to an act of assembly, passed the November session 1781, directing the Auditors of Public Accounts to settle and adjust the pay and accounts of the said Officers and Soldiers from the 1st January 1777, to the 31st December 1781, (see Hening's Statutes at Large, vol. 10, p. 462,) that a settlement was made on the 28th day of May 1786 in the name of John Young, as a Soldier of Infantry and evidence of the indebtedness of the State to him for £53.6.6 and was delivered to Mr Porter [struck out the following: and was given, as appears by a copy of the settlement on file in this office, for services from the __ to __ ]
Given under my hand at the First Auditor's Office, Richmond, this 12th day of March 1857
P328.
[No Seal of Office.]
Ro Johnston
[illegible] Auditor
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From Box 365, Minden, La.  [crossed out "MURPH FURNITURE COMPANY, INC." address illegible]

MINDEN, LOUISIANA
May 17, 1934

[stamped, clock hand arrow pointing to 12:20] RECEIVED MAY 19, 1934 [bottom of stamp illegible]

The Veterans Administration,
Washingto, [sic] D. C. 

Gentlemen:
I have written several of the government departments in an effort to get information which would give me a clue as to where some of my forebears originated. Understand, I know the different departments do not compile family histories, etc., but some of them do furnish information to citizens and the Census Bureau will give a transcript of any information they may have, for a fee. The adjutant General, War Department has advised my writing your department for the desired information, saying that there is a possibility that I might procure it from you.
I wish to get information on the following men, who are said to have rendered service in various wars: Alexander Watson, who is thought to have enlisted as a drummer boy in the war of 1812; probably from South Caroline [sic] or Georgia; later, after his marriage to a Miss Dees in Pennsacola, [sic] Florida, he moved to Northern Alabama, where he served as a Baptist Missionary to the Indians of that section. One "Albert"? Brasell, who is said to have been one of the first settles of Montgomery, Alabama; probably a large planter on the Montgomery river, as he is said to have freed about 150 slaves after the issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation: although I don't know whether this man served in one of the wars, or not. His wife was a Miss Glass. These are my maternal forebears in Alabama, and I should think, in surmise, that they came from the southern colonies of Georgia, or South Carolina. 
There are the  forebears on the maternal side about whom I have such little information: One Mordecai Williams who immigrated to Carter county, Kentucky about the year 1799, accompanied by his wife, Angelina, and several children; thought to have come from Virginia, but this is unlikely, as the special census returns taken by the state of Virginia (I think that the U.S. census returns for 1790 were burned or destroyed, only these special return for the years 1782-'85 being available) do not show this name among the many Williams families living in Virginia, but it is shown in Chester county, Charlestown district, of Pennsylvania. I don't know whether this man could have served in the Revolution or not; however, a Washington genealogist, a Mr. Neifert, tells me that he thinks he has seen an account of the service of one Mordecai Williams as a soldier in the Revolution, from this district.
Probably you could also find a record of the services of a ?Raison, from Carter county, Greenup or Boyd; a Fletcher Mavity from this part of state, and one John Young, who is said to have served as a dispatch-bearer in the army of Washington during the Revolution; probably from Virginia or Pennsylvania, later moving to this part of Kentucky. He is said to have drawn a pension for a number of years.

Yours respectfully, 
[signature]
Ronald B. Murph.
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THIS IS TO CERTIFY, That it appears from a list in this office of such Officers and Soldiers of the Virginia Continental Line as settled their accounts and received certificates for the balance of their Full Pay, according to an act of assembly, passed the November session 1781, directing the Auditors of Public Accounts to settle and adjust the pay and accounts of the said Officers and Soldiers from the 1st January 1777, to the 31st December 1781, (see Hening's Statutes at Large, vol. 10, p. 462,) that a settlement was made on the 21st day of March 1783 in the name of John Young, as a Soldier of Infantry and evidence of the indebtedness of the State to him for £103.9.0 and was delivered to  Colo. Jno Gibson [struck out the following: and was given, as appears by a copy of the settlement on file in this office, for services from the __ to __ ]
Given under my hand at the First Auditor's Office, Richmond, this 12th day of March 1857
P327.
[No Seal of Office.]
Ro Johnston
[illegible] Auditor
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State of Kentucky }
County of Greenup } SS,
On this 14th day of May AD 1857 Before me an Acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid personally appeared Mary T. Young aged 81 years, a resident of Greenup County aforesaid, who being first duly sworn according to law, declares, that she has known Rev John Young, now of Greenup County Kentucky, from the time she was a child of five years of age. That she lived in the vicinity of Fredericksburg, Virginia, during the period of the Revolutionary War. And she duly certifies that said John Young was stationed at Fredericksburg Va, as an Express Rider, that he entered the service in 1778 and that he continued until regularly discharged in the fall of the year 1782, by General George Weden of the United States Army -- that peace was then supposed to be restored, that she had often seen the written discharge signed and written by General Weden -- and knows of her from personal knowledge that he had the above named discharge & that he served for the period and in the manner above stated, That she knows and [illegible] well the way circumstances attending his services as Express Rider, and certifies that his services were hard and dangerous, --  That said John Young was hired in compliance with the order of General George Weden "to hire a young man, for & during the time of the war, as an Express Rider and who could be kept and be [illegible], on" -- Said John Young was hired in compliance
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with the above order of General Weden, for and during the term of the war, to serve at the capacity of Express Rider and served as such until discharged by General Weden as aforesaid in the fall of 1782, where it was supposed the war [repeated word "war" struck out] was ended and his services would no longer be needed-- In the written discharge it was certified by General George Weden, that such John Young had served his country with credit and fidelity during the war--

MaryTYoung {ss}
Mary T. Young {ss}

Witness W. Ramsay,
Benj Chim

Subscribed and acknowledged and sworn to before me this 14th day of May 1851- And I hereby certify that Mary T. Young is personally known to me and that all her statements are entitled to full faith and credit. All interlineations made before signing.
Wm Kouns JPSG [seal]

State of Kentucky }
County of Greenup} SS.
 I, William Corum Clerk of the County Court in and for the County and State abovementioned do hereby certify that William Kouns -- whose genuine signature appears to the foregoing declaration, affidavit and power of Attorney is and was at the time of signing the same a justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, that he is duly commissioned and sworn, that all his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit and that the aforesaid county court
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is a Court of Record having gneral jurisdiction, 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office at Greenupsburg-
This 22nd day of May AD. 1857.
William Corum Clerk
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John Young,
sep Mary T Young.
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June, 1832, John Young of Greenup County, Kentucky as an Express Rider in the Revolution is entitled to receive Four hundred & Eighty dollars and -- cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March and 4th of September, in every year. Deduct former payments at $240 per annum.
Given at the Department of th Interior, this twenty fourth day of January one thousand eight hundred and fifty two.
Alexr H.H. Stuart
Secretary of the Interior.
Examined and }
Countersigned. }
JE Heath
Commissioner of Pensions.
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Power of Attorney
John Young

O.W.&N.
OCT 17 1907
RECORDS
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Know all men by these Presents, that I John Young of the County of Greenup and State of Kentucky who was an express rider in the Continental Service - Virginia line in the Army of the Revolution do hereby name and Constitute and append Stephen F.J. Trabue of the County of Franklin and State of Kentucky my true and lawful attorney for me and in my name [illegible] against the Government of the United States the claim due me for pension under the Act of Congress passed [left blank] or under any other act or acts of said Congress and when an Annuit or Annuits are found due me then my said Attorney is hereby authorised to receive the Certificate of Pension which may issue payable to me as aforesaid as [illegible] Agency and to do all things in order then to that he may deem right and proper
Hereby satisfying & conforming all which my said Attorney may do by [illegible] of these Presents certify my my hand & seal this 18th day of March 1851, John Young
Mary Young
[illegible]
W. Ramsay
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State of Kentucky}
County of  [left blank]}
Be it know [sic] that on the 18th day of March 1851 before me M.F. Dupeey as Acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County & State aforesaid personally appeared John Young and [illegible] the [illegible] Power of Attorney and Acknowledged the Same so be his act & deed for the purposes therein Contained
M.F. Dupeey J.P.G.C
[struck out word] Clerks Seal Attesting to the official Character of the J.P.
State of Kentucky }
County of Greenup} Set
I William Corum clerk of the County Court for the County and state aforesaid do certify that M F Dupeey whose genuine signature appeared  to the foregoing certificate is and was at the time of
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Signing the same as Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State Aforesaid duly Commissioned forever and all his Official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit- and the aforesaid County Court is a Court of Record having general Jurisdiction 
Given under my hand and seal of Office at [illegible] this 18th day of  March 1851
William Corum Clerk

[seal]

John Young
Care
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th Jen, 1832,
John Young of Ky
[who, covered in ink splotch] was a private, in the Revolution, is entitled to receive Eighty dollars and [cents struck out] per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1834, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March and the 4th of September, in every year.

Given at the Department of the Interior,
This 5" day of April 
one thousand eight hundred and fifty one,
Alexr H H Stuart
Secretary of the Interior.

Examined and Countersigned, } 
J E Heath
Commissioner of Pensions.
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277
Pension Office
Feb 26, 1853

Sir
Be pleased to suspend the payment of the pension of John Young, Express Rider, Act of 7 June 1832, at $480 per annum, until further instructions
Wm R Vance, Esq
[illegible]
Louisville
Ky
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W.R. Vance
Pen. Agt. Louisville, Ky.
[flourish]
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F.F.C. Triplett
Aug. 22, 1853
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325
Pension Office August 22, 1853

Sir
I have examined the papers in the case of John Young of Kentucky under the Act of July 7, 1832 and am of opinion that the suspension ought not to be removed.
The case was rejected by the Commissioner of Pensions on the 7th day of February 1849 and his decision was confirmed by the Secretary of War on the 9th of the same month. The case [illegible] there filed had been before Congress [illegible] was made by the committee to whome [sic] it was [illegible] on the 9th day of February 1848. The only evidence since filed in the case, is the [illegible] of one Mary T. Young who testifies to material feats, but where testimony cease there is but little weight prove the feat that the attempts to narrate incidents that [illegible] a time where she was but eight years old.
The case could nor would be allowed where this [illegible]
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Pittsburgh 28 March 51
New Commission of Pensioner
 
[illegible] I enclose you @ power of atty from John Young to me Constituting me his atty. His application is now pending in your office under the act Jth June 1832.
Both Parsons Evans Hoph Triplett promised to send me the the certificate to Louisville Ky for service as private $80 per annum; which I hope they did last friday.  This was promised if I would leave the city. I hope they have complied, if not I shall return. [emphatic underlining]
Most respectfully
yours
SFJ. Trabue
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That all men by these Presents, that I John Young a Revolutionary Pensioner at the rate of two hundred & forty dollars per Annum do hereby [illegible] and appoint Thomas Abram and Stephen F. J. Trubue of Louisville Ky my true & lawful attorneys [illegible] in my [illegible] against the Government of the United States the Claim or right I have to an increase of Pension under any law or laws of the Congress of the United States, and when an allowance is made to demand & receive, the Certificate of pension as endorsed thereof - and to sign seal & deliver any installment or [illegible] in [illegible] to carry out the forgoing pensions or to enable them to prosecute my said claim to any extent that they may think proper
In testimony there of I have hereunto in my hand I [illegible] this 5th day of november 1851,  
John Young X his mark {seal}
Subscribed & acknowledged before me
Thomas Abram J.P.G.L.
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Commonwealth of Kentucky
Greenup County } Oct
I William Corum clerk of the County Court for the County aforesaid, do certify that Thomas Abram whose name appears to the foregoing certificate is and was at the time of signing the same an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly commissioned and quallified [sic] and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine
In testimony where of I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said county court this 17th day of November 1857
William Corum Clk
[flourish]
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House of Reps [Sept?] 24th 1854

Hon Mr Heath
Court of Pension
Sir
Herewith I enclose the original Certificate of Pension in case of John Young
Please for issued a certificate for the amount of [illegible] to which he is entitled under a recent decision of the the Dept
My truly  [illegible]
Ben. Edwards Grey
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170
Pension Office,
August 12, 1852

Sir
I have filed the certificate of the Hon Richard French, as to the reputation of John Young, of Greenup Co. Ky, as a Revolutionary soldier, with the papers that are at a [illegible]  it has [illegible] to the office [illegible] is now in the [illegible] of a pension under the Act of June 7, 1832. He has just placed on the Roll on the 30th of June at the rate of $80 per annum commencing March 4, 1831, and his certificate set to Miss G. H. Monserat the Louisville Ky. on the 30th of June 1851 the amount of this annual stipend has increased to $240 per annum and the certificate delivered to S. F. J. Trabue, Esq who was then present, and on the 24th of January last [struck out word] the
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amount of his annual stipend, commencing March 4, 1831, has other further encrease to $480 per annum, and the certificate sent to the Hon. Benj. E. Grey of the House of Representatives, 
II. My letter of the [illegible] was addressed to you under the impression that it referred to a [struck out phrase] suspended [illegible] in the name of John Young, [struck out word] [illegible] the Kentucky cases. That John Young, [illegible] in Breckan County. 
[Struck out "I have the honor to be Respectfully,]

Hon John C. Mason, 
House of Reps

Hon. J.C Mason
Aug 10 -
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Washington City
Jany. 9th 1852

Hon J.E. Heath
[illegible] H. 
Dear Sir
Please find enclosed herein Power of Attny & Certificate of Pension in case of John Young for increase of pension
Will you [illegible] me by sending me certificate of pensioner
Very Resp. 
Your ob. ser.
S.S. Williams
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House Reps May 20th 1852

Hon J E Heath -- 
The inclosed certificate from Hon Richard French my predecessor is forwarded to be filed in the case of Mr. Young in your office -- The high [illegible]  for truth & integrity of [illegible] will of course commence on that point important belief & entire satisfaction --
Respectfully 
JC Mason
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June, 1832, John Young of Kentucky who was an Express Rider in the Revolution, is entitled to receive two hundred & forty dollars [struck out "and cents"] per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March and 4th of September, in every year. Deducting farmer payment at the rate of eighty dollars per annum.
Given at the Department of the Interior, this thirtieth day of June, one thousand eight hundred and eighty one.
Alexr H. H. Stuart
Secretary of the Interior.

Examined and  }
Countersigned,}
JE Heath
Commissioner of Pensions.
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11963
Free

Long [illegible] Ky           
Nov 15, 1842

Nov 21, 1842 
Ken.
John Young

Col James L Edwards
Commissioner of Pension
Washington City
D.C
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[Illegible] Scott Co Ky Nov 9 1849

Dear Sir
The Enclosed paper is in the care of the Rev John Young for the Benefit of the act of Congress July 7, 1832 which you will mean to have the kindness to examine
I am yours with great respect
Lewis C Suggett

Col James L Edwards
Commission of Pension
Washington City
D,C
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Certificates
John Young
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Greenup City, Ky 18 March, 1851

We the undersigned, citizens of Greenup Co, Ky, take pleasure in stating that John Young who makes apple [illegible], has lived in Greenup County since February 1806, that he has always maintained, an [illegible] character, and [illegible] himself as active and useful citizen-- He has been County Surveyor for forty years, since 1796 -- Had the care of a church since 1807 -- to this day -- in which he officiates whenever his health will admit-- & that he is respected and beloved by all who know him here. 
John Willis
Jesse Corum
J. Van Bibber
Jacob Strand
Wm. S. Swim
Cyrus Vanbibber

I have known Mr. John Young whose name is above mentioned for many years and believe him to be a correct & honest man and have never heard anything against him-- I take pleasure in speaking this truth of him--  John Seaton
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Subscribed and acknowledged before me M.F. Dupreey a justice of the Peace in deed for the County of Greenup and State of Kentucky, I duly certify that the above named J. Willis, J. Corum-- J. Van Bibber -- J. Kinus, Wm. S. Swins, C. Van Bibber, and John Seaton, are credible, virtuous, and their statement [illegible] full for the [illegible],
M.F. Dupreey J. P.G.C.
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Pension Office 
January 20, 1849
It appears from a list of men who received certificates for the balance of their pay as soldiers of the Virginia Continental line that John Young received a certificate in March 1783 for £103.9. Va currency, and a May 1784 a man of the same name received a certificate for £53.4.6 Va. currency
J L Edwards
[line illegible]
On the above list the name of George Stubblefield, Major, also appears. It is believed that he once commanded a regiment; but I cannot slate [struck out "He fact"] officially. The books do not shew that he was a colonel. He received a certificate for £121.2.7, Va. currency. He marched to the south from Virginia. 
J. L. Edwards
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Pension Office
December 28th, 1848

Sir, 
In answer to your letter relative to the case of John Young, I have to inform you that we have no certificate on file from Mr. Heath. The name of John Young is twice found on the Virginia Continental rolls as a soldier; but, there is no proof whatever, that either of these men is now alive.
I have the honor to be 
respectfully
Your [illegible]
J L Edwards

Hon R. French
House of Reps.
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Washington February 1st 1849.
Dear Sir. --
Since I had the interview with you in relation to the claim of John Young of Greenup County, Ky. for a pension the inclosed [sic] certificate has come to my hands. 
As I did not when with you request you to examine Mr. Young's testimony, and Declaration, but merely made you a very imperfect verbal statement; and believing upon reexamination that in that statement I did not do justice to the claim, I now respectfully ask of you the favor to examine the them. -- putting the inclosed [sic] with them.
The Attorney General whose opinion I desired to obtain upon the case, informed me that the president had or would refer it to you, for your action. -- The president had promised me to refer the case to the Attorney General for his opinion. -- Untill [sic] informed of its reference to you, as aforesaid, I did not know it. 
With great respect
A. French
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For JC Mason
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Elder Joohn Young of Greenup County Ky. is reputed in his neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier soldier [sic]. -- I have known him thirty years and, his name and religious character good [sic]. --
Washington February 7th 1849. 
Richard French
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Pension Office
February 7, 1849

Sir,
In the case of John Young, I have the honor to inform you that we have no knowledge that any soldier of the Virginia Continental line was ever detailed to perform service as an express rider. There was a corps of Express Riders authorized by law; but he did not belong to that corps. The name of John Young is twice found among the rolls of the soldiers of the Virginia Continental line; but there is no satisfactory evidence that the claimant was one of those men. The claimant is a very respectable man, but I do not consider myself authorized to allow the pension on the proof exhibited. 
I have the honor to be very respectfully, your officer,
J L Edwards
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3 Jan 5.

D.Z.
Jany 6, 1840

Pension Office
 [illegible] att
Ken

Hon. Joel R. Poinsel
Secretary of War
Washington City

Hon. G. Davis
H R
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Mr. G. Davis

Hon Joel R. Poinsel
Secretary of War
Washington City
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House of Representatives
3d January 1839

Mr. Davis of Kentucky has the honor to enclose to the Hon. Secretary of War the petition of John Young a solider of the revolution for a pension. Mr. D will be much obliged if some one of the clerks be directed to examine the master rolls of the Revolution for the name of the petitioner. He feels the more interest in this application, as the applicant is a man of great age, extreme bodily infirmity & total destitution of means. If his service can be made out to the satisfaction of the department, the entire pension roll will not furnish a fitter object for the bounty of the Government.
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Genl. T Ward
May 17, 1833
OC

Recd vol 25
Page 70
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War Department 
Pension Office
May 17, 1833

Sir, 
The papers in the case of John Young have been examined. The service performed by him was as an express rider. Such service is not provided for by the act of June 7, 1832. His claim has therefore been rejected. The papers will remain in the files in this office.

(see letter to Hon. A. Davis House of Rep. dated Feb. 7, 1834 saying papers of John Young [illegible].)

Genl. Thompson Ward.
Care of A. W. G. Nichols, Esq.
Greenupsburg, Ken
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Hon. A. Davis
February 7, 1834
G.C. 

Recd vol 23
Page 496
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War Dept.
Pension Office
Feby 7 1834

Sir,
In compliance with your request I enclose herewith the papers of John Young. Be pleased to acknowledge the receipt of them.
Hon. A Davis 
House of Reps.
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Col R M Johnson

11963
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Long Lidh Scott Co Ky Nov 15 1842

Dear Sir
I have just inclosed to Col J L Edwards the Declarations and evidence in the Cases of Elder John Young William Harmen and William Gholson as good and just claims and acquaintance of yours and they desire that you should represent their [illegible] before the department It is also the request of the lein of Richard Young who was a Quarter Master Joshua Bartley who was an ensign and Henry Catlett who was a Leiutenant all on the Virginia Line that you assert what is due to them Your joined Horatio Catlett is inclosed in the last named claims
I do most confidentially hold that all the Pension Claims forward to the department by Mr Wm M allowed all being good and just claims
I am yours with great Res
Lewis C Suggett

Col R M Johnson
Washington City
JC
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I John Jacobs a resider of the county of Scott and State of Kentucky aged eighty one years state that I was a soldier of the war of the revolution in Colonenel [sic] William Washington ridgment [sic] of light horse from the County of Stafford Virginia the army was stationed at Fredricksburg Virginia from the first of December seventeen hundred and eighty I there became acquainted with John Young who was engaged in the servis [sic] of the revolution as an express rider he was in the servis when we firs [sic] went to Fredricksburg, we left Fredricksburg and went to Petersburg in the spring of seventeen hundred and eighty and remained there, Petersburg Virginia untel [sic] August John Young brought the express from from [sic] Fredricksburg to us at Petersburg we left Petersburg Virginia in the month of August Seventeen hundred and eighty and went to Halifax North Carolina and remained there untel a few days of Christmas we then left Halifax and went to the South I did not see John Young after we left Halifax North Carolina I found John Young in the servis as an express rider at Fredicksburg Virginia the first of December seventeen hundred and seventy nine and I left him in the servis as an express rider in the letter [sic] part of December seventeen hundred and eighty when we left Halifax North Carolina I undersand [sic] that he resides in the County of Greenup Kentucky Given under my hand this 3d day of December 1844
John Jacobs
+ his mark
Wm Suggett Jr.
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State of Kentucky )
County of Scott    )

Be it known that personally appeared before me the undersign a Justise of the Peace in and for the above written county and state John Jacobs a man known to me to be of respectability and truth; and subscribed and made oath to the truth of the above affidavit, first interlined on the fifth line, nine interlined in the in the nineteenth line of the affidavit all before signed
Jos Burgess, NP. S. Q

State of Kentucky
Scott County Fer
et Ben. B. Ford Clerk by Thos. C. Kelly his deputy of the County Court of Pem do hereby certify that Joseph Burgess whose name is subscribed to the foregoing certificate is an acting justice of the peace in and for the county aforesaid, and his genuine signature thereby - and that full faith and credit is and ought to be given to all his official acts as such.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my office this 4th day of December 1844 and in the 53rd year of the Commonwealth
Ben. B. Ford Clk by
Thos. C. Kelly Dy

John Jacobs
affidavit
(John Young)
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I John Jacobs a resider of the county of Scott and State of Kentucky aged eighty one years state that I was a soldier of the war of the revolution in Colonenel [sic] William Washington ridgment [sic] of light horse from the County of Stafford Virginia the army was stationed at Fredricksburg Virginia from the first of December seventeen hundred and eighty I there became acquainted with John Young who was engaged in the servis [sic] of the revolution as an express rider he was in the servis when we firs [sic] went to Fredricksburg, we left Fredricksburg and went to Petersburg in the spring of seventeen hundred and eighty and remained there, Petersburg Virginia untel [sic] August John Young brought the express from from [sic] Fredricksburg to us at Petersburg we left Petersburg Virginia in the month of August Seventeen hundred and eighty and went to Halifax North Carolina and remained there untel a few days of Christmas we then left Halifax and went to the South I did not see John Young after we left Halifax North Carolina I found John Young in the servis as an express rider at Fredicksburg Virginia the first of December seventeen hundred and seventy nine and I left  him in the servis as an express rider in the letter [sic] part of December seventeen hundred and eighty when we left Halifax North Carolina I undersand [sic] that he resides in the County of Greenup Kentucky Given under my hand this 3d day of December 1844
John Jacobs
+ his mark
Wm Suggett Jr.
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Pension office
April 29, 1844.

Sir,
In the case of John Young, the Secretary of War has decided adversely to his claim. The Secretary has made the following remarks in his papers. 
"In his declaration John Young himself states his terms of service to have fallen short of the six months. This is decisive when this branch of his case. As an Express Rider he appeared to have been very active and useful, but for such services, there is no law granting him a pension. The decision of the Commissioner is confirmed." Copies of Papers are herewith enclosed. 

I have the honor to be
very respectfully
Your observant
Signed, J. S. Edwards.
Comm of Pensions

R. French
House of Representatives.
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I John Jacobs a resident of the County of Scott and state of Kentucky aged eight one years state that I was a soldier of the war of the revolution in Colonel William Washingtons regiment of light horse from the County of Stafford Virginia. The regiment was stationed at Fredricksburg Virginia. The regiment was stationed at Fredericksburg Virginia from December seventeen hundred and seventy [senty crossed out] nine until the spring of seventeen hundred and eighty. I there saw Reuben Young engaged as a regular soldier in the war of the revolution, he was stationed at Fredericksburg as one of the guard to guard the magazines. he was a married man at the time and had his wife and children with him at Fredericksburg. His eldest son John Young was old enough to be in the service as an express rider. Given under my hand this third day of December 1844
John Jacobs
x his mark

Wm Suggett Jr

State of Kentucky )
County of Scott    )
Be it known that personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the above written County and State John Jacobs a man known to me to be of respectability and truth and subscribed and made oath to the truth of the above affidavit. Given under my hand the third day of December 1844 an erasure in the sixth line of the affidavit and "seventy" written above before signing
Jas Burgess J.P.S.C.

State of Kentucky )
Scott County        )
I Ben B. Ford Clk by Thomas C Kelly his deputy for the County Court of Scott do hereby certify that Joseph Burgess whose name is subscribed to the
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foregoing certificate is an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid duly commissioned and qualified and his genuine signature thereto and that full faith and credit is and ought to be given to all his official acts as such.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my office this 4th day of December 1844 and in the 53d year of the Commonwealth
Ben B Ford Clk
by Thos. C. Kelly Dy

Seal
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His Excellency 
James K Polk
President U. States
Washington
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Washington January 26th 1849.
Dear Sir.
I desire the opinion of the Attorney General of the United States upon a point of law involved in the case of John Young (the papers of which are herewith inclosed.)
The commissioner of  pensions has passed upon the case, rejecting it -  the committees of the House have done the same, on several occasions. -- As the Endorsements prove --
At the present session, I have obtained from the commissioner of pensions, the additional evidence contained in the papers A & B. ---
I have known the applicant for thirty years, and know him to be a man of unquestionable high moral and religious standing.-- Have also known the witnesses Thompson Ward, John C. Kouns, and William Gowner -- as long, and known them to be men of the first standing-- and also have known the two Mr. Corums for years, and they are of equal standing. -- The witness John Jacobs is dead. --
Had I a doubt, that John Young served
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as he states I would not press his claim. --
At his own House he has detailed to memory of the circumstances and incidents of his long service, and I venture the remark that no impartial [illegible] can hear his recital without believing him. -- The law however must be complied with and I proceed to state the point-- which is-- "As the evidence of his identity consisting mostly of circumstances, sufficient to establish his identity in point of law?"
A question of fact is to be established (identity) involving the question of law also, in this trust, the force of the proof, in point of law in aid of the fact. --
Mary Lee, Daughter of Richard Young who was Quartermaster at Fredericksburg Virga [Virginia] expressly identifies him, and the witness Jacobs saw Reuben Young at Fredericksburg as a regular soldier in the War of the Revolution, from December 1779. untill the spring 1780. and in 1780 saw John Young, who he understands resides in Greenup County Ky, engaged in the service as
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an express Rider-- being the oldest son of Reuben Young. -- Mrs. Lee proves that John Young the Express Rider, lives in Greenup County Ky. -- These two witnesses therefore identify the man. 
The [illegible] A & B. of the commissioner of pensions are to ben from the Rolls on file in his office, and these Rolls are of those who were in the Regular Service. He expressly so informed me. --  
These Rolls containing John Young's name, therefore prove him to have [been? page torn] a [o-----ar, page torn] soldier, and the violent presumption is, that owing to his tender age he was detailed from the Ranks to ride as an Express, and this was probably done on the account of his tender years (see Jacobs deposition.)
The service as detailed in John Young's Declaration, giving names of officers L, [page torn] strengthened as his statement as by what the Rolls show, and by what bolo Edwards states in paper B, can leave no reasonable doubt of his services, or
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identity. 
Very respectfully, 
Richard French

I have not had his papers send to any committee of Congress this session.

His excellency.
James K. Polk
President U. States
Washington
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John Young Kentucky
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Kiddville, Clark Co, Kentucky
May 28th 1837

Land claim sent to mailroom

Commissioner of Pensions
Sir,
Inclosed you will find the applications of Mrs Mary Young widow of John Young and Express Rider and soldier of the Revolution, one for Bounty Land under act of Congress 3rd March 1835, - the other for Pension in right of her decd husband.
Inclosed you have Mrs Young's pension certificate, which is herewith filed as a part of these papers and Mrs Young believes that Mr Young did not draw anything for about two years next before his death, if such is the fact, she respectfully asks that her certificate may be issued, covering that interregnum [underlined] if lawful to do it.
She requests that if the Dept cannot allow for the [illegible] due her decd husband, in her certificate that she be advised how to proceed to draw it. 
Very respectfully
[illegible]
Wm N Snowden
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Pension Office.
Jun 26, 1857

Sir: 
I have filed the application of Mary Young, widow of John claiming a  pension in the a congress under the Act of July 7, 1838, and arrears of  [illegible] due to her late husband under the Act of June 7, 1839, and [illegible]
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[illegible] in any practical [illegible] entered against the parties [struck out who received the many] who received it. There is no [illegible] of any [illegible] do not [illegible] case written the premises of the Pension [illegible].

Wm N. Snowden
Kiddville
Clark Co
Kentucky