Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 23,036, Martin A Van Alstine, New York
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(3-1776)
SERVICE
NUMBER
new york
Van Alstine martin A.
S.23036
CONTENTS
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New York 30.537
Martin A. Van Alstine
Montgomery in the State of New York
who was a Private in the Company commanded
by Captain Cambell of the Regt commanded by 
[illegible] in the New York line for 4 mos & 17 days, private 1 mo & 17 days corporal

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 
21 dollars 00 cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 3 day of April
1836 and sent Hon. M.G. Bovee House of Reps

Arrears to the 4th of March 1836 $105.00
Semi-anl.allowance ending 4 Sept  10.50
$115.50

{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}

Recorded by DD Addison Clerk, Book E2 Vol 4 Page 78
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State of New York
Montgomery County ss Martin A Van Alstine of the town of Root in the county of Montgomery aforesaid being duly sworn says that on the 7th day of March next he the deponent will be eighty three years of age. That during the Revolutionary war he resided in the town of Canajoharie in the said county, that he continued to reside at said last mentioned place during the whole of said war - that this deponent the first year of the said war served as a soldier being a militia was under Captain Rynear Van Evera of the town of Canajoharie in said county Sixteen days including going & returning in guarding the fort and inhabitants at Fort Plain in said county and that time deponent during the time of rendering the above service was a soldier in the service of the United States and was called a 'minute man' and that the deponent continued in that capacity of minute men during the whole of said war and the deponent thinks that the above service was informed in the spring of the year - the deponent says that in the fall of the first year of said war he served four weeks at Fort Plank in said county under Captain Copeman of said county, as a soldier in the United States service guarding the said Fort & protecting the inhabitants from the Indians & tories - That during the spring of the second year of said war deponent served one month as a soldier in the United States service under Captain Bighead at the Little Falls in the now county of Herkimer in said state in guarding the inhabitants against the Indians & tories & detecting spies. As that in fact the deponent & his associates caught three spies one of whom was named Philip Cauch (otherwise called book) and one Henry Dillenbaugh being the son in law of said Cauch, and the other man the deponent did not know nor does he now remember his name. & that deponent & his fellow soldiers took said spies to the Fort at German Flatts in said County of Herkimer. that in the fall of the second year of said war the deponent served as a soldier in the United States service at a place called Cherry Valley in the now county of Otsego guarding a temporary fort and protecting the inhabitants against the Indians & Tories & scouting for the space of one month having been ordered out for that time & that he served at this last place under a man by the name of Campbell, the deponent thinks his Christian name was Samuel but his position & the deponent is not certain whether he was a captain or a Colnel & that deponent & his fellow soldiers were conducted over there by a Lieutenant by the name of John Van Evera who resided in Canajoharie aforesaid - This deponent further says that during said war he was on one [illegible] ordered out to go to Turnebough (now called Sharon in Schoharie County) that deponent went there under the command of said Lieutenant Van Evera
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and that deponent arrived there just before the commencement of the Battle fought at that place & was engaged in the same & that one Frederick Bellinger was killed directly in front of deponent as well as many others that deponent did not know. And that the Americans succeeded in defeating the enemy in said battle. That deponent was an entire stranger to all the other officers who were engaged in said battle & does not now remember the names of any of them, & that deponent was engaged in the service at this time but one day & part of one night for deponent returned home immediately after said battle, & that the distance from where deponent resided at this time to when said battle was fought was about twelve miles - That this deponent was also during said war but the precise time he cannot now remember engaged in the service of the United States at Johnstown in Montgomery County (Then Tryan) for two days & that during that time an enagement took place between the Americans under Col. Willett & the enemy & that deponent was engaged through the whole of that battle. That the deponent volunteered on that occasion & that a bullet carried away part of the deponents hat on that occasion & that another bullet passed through the clothing of deponent just above his waist band & taken the skin of deponent  That deponent was also engaged in a trifling engagement at a placed called Stone Arabia in Montgomery County under Capt Van Evera aforesaid & that deponent cannot state the precise time when it took place of that deponent on this occasion. I was in actual service one day only - The deponent further says that during said war the deponent served three months as a soldier in the United States service at a place called Fort Stanwix, now in the county of Oneida under the command of one Warner Dygart who deponent thinks served as a Captain Stuart deponent during this three month service performed the duty of guarding the said fort protecting the inhabitants against the indians & Tories & going on scouting parties, that deponent went then in the spring of the year & think it was the 3rd year of the war but is not very certain as to the year - & that deponent does not now remember of any other officers being at said last mentioned fort but a Sargent by the name of Adam Brown & that deponent occasionally saw Col Millett at that place who appeared to have the most to say - That deponent once during the said war, but hte precise time he closest now remember went from Canajoharie to Fort Stanwix in company with others to guard a boat up the Mohawk River to that place whilst boat was loaded with provisions & that deponent was there engaged fifteen days going staying & returning home - & that deponent was there under the Command of a man by the name of Van Rensselaer & what
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command he held deponent does not now remember but deponent thinks he was a Colnel- that this deponent during all the time he was performing the above services was officiating in the capacity of a corporal & that deponent during the time in which the above mentioned services was performed spent considerable time in warning men & otherwise of which it is not possible for him now to give any particular account but deponent has no doubt it would far exceed one month - and this deponent further says that he now remembers that at the Johnstown Battle Col Millett, put deponent under the particular command of a man by the name of Walace, & deponent thinks he was a captain & that he was a brave soldier And this deponent further says that he now remembers that one Abraham Van Deusen was also a soldier with deponent at Fort Stanwix as aforesaid - And deponent further says that the above named officers are all dead except Capt. Walace - & that deponent believes that all the soldiers who served with him are either dead, in places unknown to deponent except the above named Abraham Van Deusen - & Adam Brown. & deponent further says that he is very poor & in[illegible] dependent on his children for support and that in fact his children are also poor & not able to support deponent - and this deponent further says that this declaration is made with a view of obtaining a pension under the Act of Congress of the 7th June 1832. & deponent hereby Relinquishes all other claims to a pension under the above act or any other act whatever - & further that he the deponent is not now on any pension roll as a pensioner nor never has been & further says not.

Martin his X mark A. Van Alstine

Sworn in open court 12 March 1835.  Geo: D. Ferguson Clerk
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Abraham

Martin A. Van Alstine
Pension papers
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Martin Van Alstine
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State of New York Montgomery County   William Wallace of the town of Johnstown in the county of Montgomery aforesaid being duly sworn says that he is now in his Eighty fourth year of age that he was in the service of the United States during the whole of the Revolutionary War - that he was at the battle of Johnstown during said war, and the battle referred to by Martin A Van Alstine in his declaration hereto annexed as having taken place in Johnstown in said county and that this deponent knew the said Martin A. Van Alstine personally during said war. and that this deponent also now well remembers that the said Martin A. Van Alstine was a soldier in the arm of the said Revolution and that he was engaged in the said Johnstown Battle. And this deponenet further says that he was also in the Stone Arabia Battle and that this deponent is now well satisfied that the said Martin was also engaged in the said battle at Stone Arabia. now has this deponent any doubt but that the declaration of the said Martin hereto annexed is in all respects true - & that this deponent is satisfied of the truth of the said declaration from personal knowledge of many of the facts stated in said declaration, from the conversation which depoent has lately had with the said Martin but also from the detailed & particular amount he gives of his said service & that this deponent has heard the declaration of the said Martin which he heard annexed read & he has no doubt it is true & honest and that he the deponent believes the said Martin to be of the age mentioned in said declaration & further says not - that the said Martin is a man of good moral character & in the opinion of the deponent entitled to full credit - & further says not -

Wm Wallace
Sworn in open court 12th March 1835
Geo D. Ferguson Clerk
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Signed the preceding certificate is a resident of the town of Johnstown in the county of Montgomery aforesaid, and is a credible person, & that his statement is entitled to credit.

I George D. Ferguson, clerk of the court of Common Pleas in and for the said county, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceding of the said court in the matter of the application of Martin A. Van Alstine for a pension.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this twelfth day of March 1835.

Geo. D. Ferguson, Clerk
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State of New York Montgomery County ss:  Abraham Van Deusen of the town of Johnstown in the county of Montgomery aforesaid being duly sworn says that he is over eighty years of age. That he resides in the new county of Montgomery during the Revolutionary War & that deponent was a soldier in said war - this deponent further says that he was personally acquainted with Martin A Van Alstine whose declaration is hereto annexed and this deponent has no doubt but that said declaration is in all respects true - this deponent further says that he has frequently during said Revolutionary war been in the service of the United States in company with the said Martin A. VanAlstine and that the then said Martin A. Van Alstine was a good faithful soldier in said Revolutionary war. This deponent also deposes & says that deponent was in company with said Martin A. Van Alstine as a soldier in the battle at Johnstown in the new county of Montgomery & that the said Martin was under the particular command of William Walace whilst deponent was under the com[illegible] by Major Fink - this deponent also well remembers that the said Martin was at a battle fought during said Revolution at a place called Stone Arabia in the now county of Montomery and that in both of the above mentioned battles the said Martin fought manfully as an American soldier- and this deponent further says that it was well understood at the time of the Revolution that the said Martin was in another battle as an American soldier called the "Lonenbergh battle" now called Sharon in Schoharie County nor has this deponent any doubt but that it was true - And this deponent is unable from old age & infirmity to state particularly all the same the said Martin performed under his view during the Revolution but this deponent has no doubt but that said Martin was a good faithful soldier during the war & that he has served the United States as stated in his said declaration - and this deponent further says that the said Martin is reputable and that his statement in oath is entitled to full credit.

Abraham Van Deusen

I do certify that the above named Abraham Van Deusen was this 25th day of March 1835 duly sworn to the truth of the facts stated in the above affidavit & that he is aged and infirm & with opinion of the subscriber too much so to attend court.

John Lieben
Justice of the Peace in Canajohari Montgomery County
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State of New York
Montgomery County
Clerks Office
ss I George D Ferguson, Clerk of the county of Montgomery aforesaid do hereby certify that John Lieber before whom the within afidavit of Abraham Van Duser purports to have been sworn was on the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in & for the county aforesaid, and that am well acquainted with his handwriting & verily believes that his name subscribed to the said affidavit is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have herewith set my hand and seal of office this 24th day of March 1835
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Martin A. Van Alstine

Affidavit for pension
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State of New York
Montgomery County ss: Martin A. Van Alstine of the town of Canajoharie in the county aforesaid being sworn says that he served in the company of Captain Van Evera for several years before the year 1781 and that he now remembers that he did on several occasions in the Revolutionary War service under the said Captain Van Evera; and that he did during the said Revolutionary War serve some time under the said Capt Van Evera as a corporal and also as a Sergeant but for what length of time he served in that grade he cannot say - this deponent is illiterate and he cannot sware in what way his name was spelt in 1779. but has no doubt that he served in that year under said Van Evera in the capacity of Sergeant or Corporal but which he cannot say - that there lived during the Revolutionary War another Van Alstine who spelt his name as deponent believes "Martin G. Van Alstine" and further this deponent saith not.

Sworn this 29th day of February 1836 before me
D.F. Judge of Montgomery County Courts
[illegible] in open court

MArtin A. Van Alstine
x his mark
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April 13, 1934.
BA-J/ILL

Martin A. Van Alstine
S. 23036
Andries witbeck
S. 15256

Mrs. J. R. Foster
8 Phillips Street
Amsterdam, New York.


Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request informa-
tion in regard to Pieter Van Alen whose wife was Josina Dingman, Abraham
M. Van Alstyne, wife Cathrine Van Alen, Jan Van Hoesan who was born 1731,
Andries withheck, Martin A. Van Alstyne, and william W. Foster, all Revo-
lutionary War soldiers of Kinderhook, New York.

A search of the Revolutionary War records fails to show claims
for pension or bounty land on file made to the United States based upon
service of Jan Van Hoesan and Peter Van Alen as described by you, or of
any Abraham M. Van Alstyne. Because of the great demand for Revolutionary
War data, and the limited clerical force available for furnishing such
information, it has not been possible to comply with each request which
requires so much time and research. The records of Martin A. Van Alstine
and Andries witbeck are furnished herein as shown in the papers on file in
their claims for pension, based upon Revolutionary War service.
MARTIN A. VAN ALSTINE -S. 23036.
Martin A. Van Alstine was born March 7. 1753, the place of his birth
and names of his parents not shown.
While a resident of Canajoharie, Montgomery County, New York, he
enlisted in the spring of 1775, served at various times in that year and in
the years 1776, 1777, 1780 and 1781, amounting in all to seven months and
a few days, as sergeant and corporal under Lieutenant Van Everen, Captains
Ryneir Van Everen, Copeman, Bigbread, Warner and Wallace, Colonels
Sarmuel Campbell, Van Rensselaer and willet in the New York troops; during
the period of his service, he was in the battles of Stone Arabia, Sharon
and Johnstown.
He was allowed pension on his application executed March 12,
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1835, at which time he resided in Root, Montgomery County, New York.
Martin A. Van Alstine referred to his children in 1835, but he
did not give any names, nor is the name of his wife shown.
The above record is that of the only soldier named Martin Van
Alstine found on the Revolutionary War records of this office.

ANDRIES WITRECK -S. 15256.
Andries Witbeck was born January 23, 1752, in Kinderhook, Columbia
County. New York, and resided there during the period of the Revolution;
the names of his parents are not shown. He stated that his name was
written Andries Witbeck, Junior, at the time he entered the war, as his
uncle, Andries witbeck, was a Colonel.
Andries witbeck, (Junior),enlisted in October 1775, served as ensign
in Captain Lembert Borghardt's New York company. marched to Caughnawaga,
and returned at expiration of service of forty days; from sometime in
October 1778, he served as ensign on various tours until October, 1780,
in Captain Isaac Van Valkenburgh's New York Company; his entire service
amounted to two years and ten days.
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 13, 1833,
at which time he resided in Stuyvesant, Columbia County. New York. Said
Stuyvesant was a part of the town Kinderhook, : The soldier had never moved from his native town.
Andries Witbeck died January 4, 1833.
No reference was made to wife or children of the soldier in this
claim.
Athe above record is that of the only Andries Witbeck found on the
Revolutionary War records of this office.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER,
Assistant to Administrator.
2.
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for a statement of the military history of martin A Van Alstine
a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or his widow's application for pen-
sion on file in this Bureau. S.F.23,036

[chart]
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT./ LENGTH OF LENGTH OF / RANK. / 
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE was RENDERED. CAPTAIN.
COLONEL. /
STATE.
 
Spring 1775 / 16 days/ served part of time as sergt and part of time as corpl / Ryner Van Everen Copeman N.Y.
Fall 1775 / 4 weeks / / Bighead /
Spring 1776 / 1 mo / 
Fall 1776 1 mo / Samuel Campbell
Spring 1777 3 mo / waner Diggart
Spring 1777 15 days / Van Rensselaer
1780. / 1 day / Ryan Van Everen
1781. 1.1/2 days Lieut Van Everin
1781 2 days Wallace, Willet  
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Battles engaged in, Stone arabia sharon, Johnstown
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Canajoharie, Montgomery Co NY
Date of application for pension, claim was al
Residence at date of application, Root, Montgomery  Co NY
Age at date of application, Born mch 7.1753
Remarks: Children alive in 1835 are names stated
The above noted is the only soldier of that name
of n.y. found on the Rev war pension records
for Very respectfully, ok
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Dept of the Interior,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington D.C.
Will you kindly inform me whether the men whose names are given below received pension for services in the Revolutionary War they were all from Tryon Co. New York
Martin Van Alstine.
Gilbert (or Gysbert) Van Alstine.
Philip Stwitts Stowets Stobets Stobits
Michael Storitts

Yours Mrs. Philip H. Stowitte
54 Wheelock St
Canajoharie,
New York

[stamp] US PENSION OFFICE FEB 26 1927

Feb 24, 1927
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stamp returned  January 11.1927

[stamp] US PENSION OFFICE JAN 18 1927


Pension Bureau
Dept. of the Interior
Washington D.C.

Dear Sir
I am writing to ask for any record you may have of the service in the Revolutionary War. of Martin Van Alstine and his wife Nancy Quackenbush (one of the heroic women of the Revolution). The records in the libraries are very incomplete and I am most anxious to find the dates and place
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of birth death and marriage and names of other children. I am enclosing a stamp for reply and will gladly pay any charge for the information. I will greatly appreciate an early reply.
Yours truly
(Mrs. E.H. ) Margaret T. Sisson
2540 Boulevard
Jersey City, N.J.
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Wayland Michigan, Feb 11-1829.
Commisioner of Pensions
Washington DC

I wish to learn if there is any record in the Pension Office, of Henry Schramling. who was a Lieutenant I think in Capt R.V. Every's Company of Lieut. Col. Samuel Clydes N.Y. Militia Rev War, he lived in Canajoharie N.Y. in Rev. War time. The name has been spelled diferent ways. by his descendants. but I have the record from an old Bible he spelled it as I have given it, sometimes these was "F" in the name again the "h" was draped as Schrambling, Scrambling, Schramling, or if any of those names are on record
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I would like information of same. Another Schramling from the mohawk valley N.Y. given name may have been John or James, was a fifer in the band in Rev war.
A Captain, Martin Van Alstine of Canajoharie was in the Rev. war can you find any record of him.
John Winn in the Mohawk Valley was in the Rev. War may have lived in Canajoharie.
Anything of the above named Rev. Soldiers will be gratefully received, Thanking you in advance.
Mrs. E.J. Van Volkenburg.
Wayland. Allegen Co.
Mich.
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3-871.
RECORD DIVISION.
Department of the Interior,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Searched
Briefed by
W.T. Convoye
Claim No.
Certificate No.
Claimant
Soldier Martin Van Alstine
Service N.Y. Rev. War.
Additional Service.
No.
claim, State records
, 190
No claim, combination records
, 190.
REMARKS:
No OWITT.or Wid.orOWRej.as
above except 23036
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Chief Division
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Revolution

23036
INVALID.

File No. 23,536
Martin A Van Alstine
Pri Rev War

Act: June 7 32'
Index:- Vol. 2, Page 431
[arrangement of 1870.]

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1909. Feb. 26. History to Mrs. E.J. VanVolkenburg
Wayland, Mich. Fr

1914 Aug. 18. History to Mrs Mildred L. Robbins Fr
letter with cl.S.17168. Adam VanPatten

1914 Oct 16 And for Int. furnished necessary data. letter returned sec S.F.17168 Adam Van Patten for answer to letter.
1927. MCh. 2 Hist. to Mrs. E.H. Sissau. MMHF
1927. Apr 19- Hist to Mrs Phil. H. Stewitts. MMNF
1934. April 13. Hist to Mrs J.R. Foster.
see letter in Rev I Andries Witbeck. S18256.ILL
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New York
Rev
Martin A. Van Alstine
Suspended
Sn let to D.F. Sacia
April 9th 1835

Let to same Oct. 21. 1835
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FREE

D.F. Sacia Esq P.M.

Canajoharie

N.Y.
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State of New York
Secretary's office

I certify that there are no payrolls or muster rolls of the militia soldiers who were in service in the revolutionary war in this office and particulary that there are no pay or muster rolls of the companies commanded by Captains Van Evera & Dygart to be found in this office

Archd Campbell
Dep Secretary

Albany April 17, 1835
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FREE

Free Sacia P.M.

NY May 13

Hon. J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
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Canajoharie May 8th 1835.

Hon J.L. Edwards

Dr Sir

Your of the 4th May is recd and in answer I say that the name of the claimant is Martin A. Van Alstine - I supposed that I mentioned his name I presume that his name is also mentioned in the certificate from the Secretary of this State which I sent you - I certainly consider this old man a fair claimant for a pension - He maintains a good character he is very poor that the reputation of having been a good soldier 

Very Respectfully yours 

D.H. Sacia
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Free Saria P.
Canajoharie 

Hon. J.L. Edwards
Washington City

M A Van Alstine
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Hon J.L. Edwards

Sir

I sent you some time since the pension papers of Martin A. Van Alstine. He is very old & vastly poor. If you have made him any allowance. Please let me hear from you  If there is a man on earth who deserves a pension he is one

I am respectfully yours
D.F. Sacia

Canajoharie July 11. 1835.
Montgomery County N. York
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Hon. J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington

Free
NY Apr 8
M A Van Alstine
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Canajeharia April 2, 1835

Hon J.L. Edwards

Dear Sir
Enclosed I send you Martin A Van Alstine's papers for a pension - I believe the papers are right and if any man on earth is entitled to a pension he is - please have this matter attended to soon for the old man is starving - 
I am Sur very Respectfully your Obt
D.H. Sacia

I would also have sent on Adam Brown attr but his mind is too far gone to be examined - he has 2 [illegible] & that happen to the sufficient 

as before yours Sanz
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Rev.&1812 Wars Section
MHS

April 19, 1927
Mrs. Philip H. Stowitts
54 Wheelock St.,
Canajoharie, N. Y.

Madam:
 I have to advise you that from the papers in the R*vo-
lutionary War pension claim S. 33036 it appears that Martin A.
Van Alstine was born March 7, 1753,place not stated.
While a resident of Canajoharie, Montgomery County, New
York he enlisted in the spring of 1775, served at various times
in that year, 1776, 1777. 1780 and 1781, seven months and a
few days in all, as sergeant and corporal under Lieutenant
Van Everen, Captains Ryneir Van Everen, Copeman, Bigbread,
Warner Dygart, and Wallace, and Colonels Samuel Campbell and
Van Reneselaer and Willet in the New York Troops and was in
the battles of Stone Arabia, Sharon and Johnston.
He was allowed pension on his application executed
1935
March 18, 18.85 while a resident of Root, Montgomery County,
New York.
He had children living in 1835 but no names are given.
The above noted is the only soldier by that name
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found on the Revolutionary war records of this
Bureau.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.
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Sept 14 NY

[stamp]  Hon J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
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Canajoharie Sept 7. 1835.
Hon J.L. Edwards

Dear Sir
I sent you some time since the pension papers of Martin A. Van Alstine of the state of New York you requested subsequently that I should see if there was yet some evidence that those soldiers he knew said in whole or in part. I examined the secretaries officers in this state where such evidence would be if any where & he gave  certificate whilst I enclosed you which I supposed went perfectly satisfactory - it is all that we can do unless the applicants oath that he has made? nothing will be required, if so on request it will be sent you. if however you are now satisfied of the justice of this claim, then furnish me to call your attention to the old mans care - He is very old, infirm & very poor & miserable - I beg of you my [illegible] in the name of common charity that he be relieved soon if at all - he will have to remove to the poor house soon if no other relief is afforded - I hope you will not consider my presumptions in this matter [illegible] have of humanity requires that I shout his solicitation on his behalf- 
I am dr sir your very humble
svt

D.F. Sacia