Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 38144, for Thomas Lively, Virginia
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[printed form, with columns and lines, all entries below are handwritten unless otherwise noted]
[printed]  (8-1776)
[printed] SERVICE
Va.
Lively, Thomas
[printed] NUMBER
S38144
[printed] CONTENTS
colored man
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18354
Virginia
Thomas Lively
of Dinwiddie in the State of Virginia who was a Private in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Gaskins of the Virginia line, for the term of five years.
Described on the Roll of Virginia at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence on the 31 of May 1820
Certificate of Pension issued the 10 of Nov 182[missing last digit]
and Send to Parke Poindexter Chesterfield C H VA
Arrears to 4th of Sept 1821  121,31
Semi-aul. all'ce ending 6 March 1822  48
15 mo 1/31 11/30
8
120
125
1.6
$169.31
Revolutionary Claim, Act 18th March 1818.
May 1, 1826
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17,349
Thomas Lively,
(a person of colour)
Dinwiddie Co: Virga.
May 1820
Col: Gaskin's regimt
Virginia line, 1777 to 1781
Not found on the rolls,
No property
ON Roll Page 387 [initials] JHH
Walker Crutchfield, Agt
Petersburg Virga
4 Sept 1820

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The day of the month when the applicant made his declaration to be inserted
The testimony, on oath, of two or more disinterestd and credible persons, certified as such by the judge, [illegible, hole in page] explicitly from their own knowledge, 9 months service in continuous on con't estable designatting the Colo name and line is required
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17,349
Thomas Lively
Dinwiddie Co. Va.
Walker Crutchfield
Agt.
Petersburgh, Va
Rec 4 Sept. 1820

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Free
John C. Calhoun
Secy War Dept.
Washington City
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Commonwealth of Virginia
Town of Petersburg to wit -
On this [blank] day of May 1820, personally appeared in open Court, Thomas Lively, a man of colour aged Eighty four Years, who being by me first duly sworn according to Said, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the provision made by the act of congress of the 18th day of March 1818, and the 1st May 1820, entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the "Land and real [underlined] service of the United States in the Revolutionary "War - " That he the said Thomas Lively enlisted in chesterfield County in the company commanded by Captain William Fowler of the 5th Va Regiment Infantry commanded then by Col. Josiah Parker, afterwards by Col. Thomas Gaskin in the year 1777 (to the best of his recollection) that he continued to serve in the same corps until the year [blank] being about two years, when he was discharged at Annapolis MD - that about two months afterwards he reenlisted at chesterfield under Lieutenant Obediah Smith in the same Regiment that he then served three years longer until the year 1783 when he was discharged at Williamsburg Virga. by Major Stephenson, he then went as a substitute militia under the Siege of York, that he had lost his discharges, not expecting that they would ever be valueable [sic], that he was in the battle fought at Wilmington, Monmouth, (at which he lost his right eye) at Augusta, Charleston, (when he was wounded in the leg, and taken prisoner, in which situation he remained fourteen months) and at the Siege of York as above Stated - that he has no other evidence now in his power except. x
is in very reduced circumstances, having no property whatever except a little household furniture of the most ordinary kind - that he has in no manner whatever, directly or indirectly lessened the value of his property in order to obtain this pension, that when the Law was passed his property was as great as it now is, and that he stands in need of the assistance of his County for support. - And in pursuance of the act of the 1st May 1820 - I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18th March 1818 - and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof - with intent thereby ^[insert] so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of the act of Congress entitled - passed and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me, nor have any income whatever, except the proceeds of my labour - I have no property whatever, except necessary beds and bedding and wearing apparel
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but a little household furniture not worth more than $20 or 30$ and about $3 or 4$ due me - my family consists of a daughter Sally Freman aged about 23 years, her husband Kit Freeman, aged about 27 years and their infant child James aged 7 years who are able to support themselves - I am a labourer but unable from my age & infirmities consequent therein to pursue my occupation successfully, being sometimes confined for months by the Rhumatism [sic]

Sworn to and declared on the [blank] day of [blank] 1820 before the Superior Court of Law for the Town of Petersburg being a court which proceeds according to the course of the Common Law with a jurisdiction unlimited in point of amount - keeping a record of its proceedings -
Sworn to in Court
W. Crutchfield C 

William Clarke Jr appeared in open Court and made oath, that he lives near Thomas Lively, knows him well, and knows that is miserably poor; from his personal appearance & that of his house, he would not suppose that his property exclusive of necessary wearing apparel, beds and bedding is worth the dollars - W C. has always understood that lively served as a soldier during the greater part of the Revolutionary War - 
Sworn in Court
W Crutchfield C

May 20th 1820
I Walker Crutchfield clerk of the Superior Court of Petersburg do hereby certify that the foregoing oath and affidavit are truly [illegible lined out] copied [illegible lined out] from the record of the said court; - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my private seal, there being no seal of office, this 27th day of August 1820, and in the 45th year of the Commonwealth -
W Crutchfield Seal [circled with ink]
x note this blank it was intended
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October 6, 1936
XXXXXXXXXXX
BA-J/MCS
Thomas Lively, S. 38144

Mr. Warren Lively
511 Washington Street
Portsmouth, Virginia

Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your request for information concerning Revolutionary War soldiers, Thomas and William Lively.
The Revolutionary War records of this office fail to afford any information in regard to William Lively.
Thomas Lively, a colored man, enlisted in Chesterfield County, Virginia, in 1777 as private in Captain William Fowler's company in Colonel Josiah Parker's 5th Virginia regiment and the regiment was later commanded by Colonel Thomas Gaskins; he was in the battle of "Wilmington", lost his right eye int he battle of Monmouth and was in service about two years. About two months later he enlisted in the same regiment under Lieutenant Obediah Smith and served three years; at Charleston he was wounded in the leg and held prisoner and he was in the battle of Augusta. He then went as a substitute militiaman to the siege of York, names of officers and length of this service not given.
He was allowed pension on his application executed May 20, 1820, at which time he was eighty-four years of age.

[handwritten note]
[?] held prisoner 14 mos as could not also have been in battle Augusta which came rather that period
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Thomas Lively was living in Chesterfield County, Virginia, in 1821. 
In 1820 he stated that his family consisted of his daughter, Sally Freman, aged about twenty-seven, her husband, Kit Freman, aged about twenty-seven, and their child, James, aged seven. There are no further data relative to the soldier's family.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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38 144
Revy INVALID.
File No. 38,144
Thomas Lively
Pri Rev War
Act: 18 March 18
Index: - Vol. 2, Page 244
[Arrangement of 1870.]

36 Oct 6. hist to Warren Lively WCS
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Thomas Lively
Private
Declaration May 31, 1820
On Roll, about 5 years -
age 84 - a Daughter aged 23, & her child aged 7 -
worth $10 -
ten Dollars
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Chesterfield CH [Court House]
1821 June 19th
The Secretary of the War department
Washington City
Free

[written vertically]
JL Edwards
Thomas Lively
Parke Poindexter
Agt [Agent]
Chesterfield C House, Va
Recd [received] 20 June 1821
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Virga Chesterfield county 1821 June [?]
Sir;
Enclosed is the declaration of Thomas Lively (a man of color) as a revolutionary soldier, together with affidavits in support of the same : - The applicant requests that you will direct your communication on the subject enclosed to me at this place.
Your most obt.
Parke Poindexter C
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Thomas Lively
papers
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Chesterfield county court, county court, 
William Fendley appeared in open court and made oath that he served twelve months during the revolutionary war, at the Valley Forge and that he knows that Thomas Lively a man of Color, and the same now applying for a pension did serve ^[insert] more than nine months in continuous in the regt commanded by Col. Joseph Josiah Parker 5th Regt. Va. line continental establishment as he served with him. -
William Fendley
Sworn to in county. -
Chesterfield County Court;
Ezekiel Perkinson appeared in open court, and made oath that he served twelve months during the revolutionary war at the vally [sic] force [sic] and that Thomas Lively a man of Color, the same who is now applying for a pension, did serve more than nine months in continuous on continental establishment, court, in the 5th Va. Regiment commanded by Col. Josiah Parker Virginia line - as he the affiant knows, having served with him -
Ezekiel Perkinson
Sworn to in open court -
Chesterfield county, county court ss. -
This event which is a court record having jurisdiction unlimited as to amount in civil cases, orders the two certificates of Wm. Fendley and Ezekiel Perkinson to be certified to the war department, as testimony supporting the declaration of Thomas Lively; and it is further ordered to be certified that the said affiants are disinterested and credible witnesses; and that the honorable Peter Randolph has been for some time months absent from the state - and that the said lively by his agent expressed his willingness to have the clerk, in the day of the month, when he made his application filled up, with the 31st, and that the said Lively is an inhabitant of Chesterfield and [?] of Dinwiddie county -
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State of Virginia
At a court held for Chesterfield county at the courthouse the 12th day of March 1821 and in the 45th year of the Commonwealth -
I Parke Poindexter Clerk of the county court aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing affidavits of William Fendley and Ezekiel Perkinson are truly copied from the originals filed in this office and that the order of court ^[insert] this day made, directing these to be certified to the department of war and filling up the date of his declaration heretofore made is truly copied from the records of said office -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & have caused the official seal of the said court to be hereunto affixed this 12th day of March 1821 -
Parke Poindexter Clk

Virginia
Chesterfield county court;
I Elazar Clay presiding justice of the peace in and for the county aforesaid do hereby certify that Parke Poindexter clerk [?] whose name is subsented [sic] to the foregoing certificate is clerk of the county court of Chesterfield, and that due faith ought to be had to all his legal official acts as such -
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed [illegible lined out] my seal this 11th day of June - anno Don: 1821 -
Eleazar Clay [signature] Seal [hand circled in ink]
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September 8, 1936.
[ink stamp]
RECEIVED
SEP 9 1936
Department of the Interior
Revolutionary War Section
Washington, D. C.

Gentlemen:
Will you kindly give me what information you have concerning William Lively and Thomas Lively, both soldiers from Virginia in the Revolution.
Such information will be greatly appreciated any if there are any usual charges I shall be glad to send them. 
Very truly yours,
Warren Lively [signature]
Warren Lively
511 Washington Street
Portsmouth, Va.