Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W 25643, John Gorin, Va. Indian War And War Of 1812
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(8-1776)
SERVICE Va. 
Gorin, John
Elizabeth 
NUMBER W25643
B.L. Wt. 65448-120-55+
B. L. Wt. 65991-40-50, allowed on service in War of 1812.
Indian War and War of 1812
CONTENT
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Orig 183 
13937
John Gorin
Barren Co in the State of Kentucky
he was a Seargent Corporal in the company commanded
by Captain Pollard of the regiment commanded
by Col Rumsey on the Virginia
line for 21 days private
2 months & 10 days Corporal
4 months Sergeant
Transcribed on the Roll of Kentucky
at the rate of 30 Dollars 88 cents per annum.
commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 15 day of July
1833 and Sent to Hon
C. Tompkins, Glasgow
Arrears to the 4th of March 61.76
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept 1544
$77.20
{Revolutionary Claim,}
Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Danl Boyd Clerk,
Book C Vol. 7 Page 10
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Date of death
not on A B
5911
Kentucky
Elizabeth Gorin
widow of John Gorin
VA
who served in the Revolutionary
war, as a priv corp & Sergeant
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate 
of 30 dollars 88
cents per annum, to commence on
the 3d February, 1853
Certificate of Pension issued
24th day of Septr 1856
and sent to Miller & Brown
Present
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
February 3, 1853, Page 174 Vol. C4
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197 174 Act March 3/83
Army 1
Elizabeth Gorin wid.
John Gorin, Major.
M. Barbour
Ky. Ma.
120 (illegible) March 29/56 Chestney
War of 1812
Rec'd. warr. 40 acres
65-991
Miller & Brown 
Present
Exmd.
L D W
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State of Kentucky Barren County  JP
On the 28th day of September 1832 personally appeared in open Court
before the Justice of the Circuit Court of Barren County, now sitting John
Gorin a Resident of Barren County of the State of Kentucky, aged
69 years the 15th day of May last, who being first duly sworn
according to Law, doth on his oath make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed
June 7th 1832.
He states that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated
that he was born & raised in the County of Fairfax, State of Virginia, near Alexandria & in the year 1777 volunteered as a soldier under Captain Thomas Pollard & Lieutenant William D. Neale in the Virginia Militia & was attached to Col Rumsey & Gilpins Regiment & march-
ed to Pennsylvania, & there was attached to Genl Charles Scotts Brigade under His excellency Genl George Washington & was 
at which battle Genl Nash was killed & he was present at his interment at the Battle of Germantown and shortly after ward, one
day at the Pegion Hill assisted in dislodging the Hessians at the Schylkill Bridge
near Philadelphia.  He then prepared to go to the white marsh but did not go.  That he was then sent home for the winter. He does not recollect the exact period he served at this time, but thinks it was about 3 months.
He obtained a Legal discharge but has now lost it. In this tour he acted as Sergeant.  Shortly after his return home the troops were called upon to guard Genl Washingtons 
house.  Dunmore was cruising in the Potomack River.  He again volunteered and went with the troops, as a private for some weeks, the number not now remembered. From this Service he received a Discharge but cannot now tell what has become of it.  In 1781 He served as a Press Master in raising a troop of Horse & went to the place of Rendezvous He was then after Several weeks, from the beginning of said service, dismissed for the [present -crossed out] time being In a short time the troops were again called for to Join the Army in Virginia to put a stop to the British Army in that State, & He immediately joined Capt. Hugh Douglass's Company as an orderly Sergeant & served in that capacity, & was attached to Col Summers Regiment, and took up the line of March & joined the Army at
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the Manbin Hills below Richmond, and was there attached to Genl
Stevensons Brigade.  Col Summers was sent home. Col Meriweather, &
Major John Hardeman took the command, being Regular Officers,
but having at the time he command  until they took it as (illegible). He marched to Williams-
burgh, thence moved on to York town, was at the taking
of Lord Cornwallis & his army. He was then discharged; 
but afterward, assisted Cornwallis troops to Baltimore. He was
on this tour 4 or 5 month, before the discharge was obtained. 
& some time after the discharge, cannot now recollect the exact time.  He, after the surrender went home, but returned with
waggons & met Cornwallis troops, at Alexandria, from whence
he assisted in conveying them & baggage to Baltimore.  He has now
now no Documentary Evidence, nor does he now know of any
pardon, where testimony he can procure, who can testify to his
Services.  He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a 
pension or annuity except the present, and delcares that his
name is not on the pension roll of the Agency of any State, or
(if any) only on that of the Agency of the State of Kentucky.
Sworn to and Subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
Questions John Gorin
1.  Where & in what year were you born?
Answr In Fairfax County, Virginia near Alexandria , on the 15th day of May 1763.
2. have you any record of your age; if so where is it?
Ansr I had one, but cannot now tell where it is, probably in Virginia.
3. Where were you living when called into the Service, where have you
lived since the Revolutionary War, & where do you now live?
Ansr. I was then living in the County of Fairfax, Virginia, near 
Alexandria.  I have lived in Kentucky ever since the year 1782 
from Philadelphia I came to Ky.  I had been to Philadelphia
to superintend a cargo of Tobacco.
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted did you 
volunteer, or a substitute?
Answ I Volunteered the 1st & 2nd time not being then on the muster Roll.  I was appointed by the Col of the County Presman
for the Horse Company, when I went with Cap Douglass, I think, I
volunteered also
5th State the names of some of the Regular officers, who were with the
troops where you served; Such Continental & Militia Regiments as
as you can recollect; & the (illegible) circumstances of service?
Ansr Genl Washington, Lafayette, Genl Medon, Genl Scott, Genl
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Wayne, Genl Lee, & others, not now recollected. 3rd Virgin-
ia Regiment, I cannot recollect others.  I was at the Battle of
Germantown, the dislodging the Hessians at Schuykill Bridge.
the surrender of Cornwallis, & assisted in taking the
French troops & their baggage from Jamestown where they
landed, to Williamsburgh.
6th Did you ever get a Discharge from the Service; if so 
from whom & what has become of it?
Ans. I did get Discharge, but as I never expected to have 
a use for them, I was careless about them & they are now
lost.  I do particularly recollect by whom they given, per
haps the latter ones were given by Brigadar Genl Stephens.
7. Did you ever receive a commission, if so by whom was
it signed & what has become of it?
Ansr Not in the Regular (illegible) I was appointed by the
Captn. Orderly (illegible)
8. State the names of the persons to whom you are
known in your present neighbourhood, who can testify
to your character for veracity, & their belief of your
Services as a soldier of the Revolution.
Ansr. Captn William Edmonds, Col. Samuel Murrell,
Judge John Garnett, William Logan Edm. Rogers,
Christopher Thompkins, Col. Thompson Chrenshard, Genl Covington, Rich. Garnett, Henry Cratcher, Col. James Hale,
& many others Sworn to & subscribed the
day & year aforesaid John Gorin
We, William Logan 
& John M. Ferren-residing in the County of Barren do hereby certify, that
we are well acquainted with John Gorin, who has subscribed & sworn
to the above Declaration; that we believe him to be 69 years of age;
that he is reputed & believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have
been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion. 
Sworn & Subscribed the day & year aforesaid 
Wm Logan 
John Munger
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after investigating
the matter & putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that
the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, & served as he stated.
And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that William
Logan is who has signed the preceeding oath is
resident in the County of Barren, and that John McFerren 
who has also signed the same, is a resident in the County of
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Barren, and are credible persons & that their statement is entitled to credit
J Reichard Garnett clerk of the Circuit Court of Berren County
do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings 
of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Gorin
for a Pension. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set
my hand and seal of office this 28th day
of September 1832
Richard Garrett CBCC
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Dec. 11/5, No 31,308.
Elizabeth Gorin
Bounty Land 
Claim
John Gorin Deced
Ken Mel.
apt Charles Harvey
Col. Philip Barber
10th Regt Ken. Mc No
ilit 28. Sept/50.
Land.
Forward Warrant
to Gorin & Rogers
Glasgow
Ky.
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State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} Sct
On this 2nd day of December A. D. one thousand
eight hundred and fifty personally appeared before me,
a Justice of the Peace, within and for the County and State aforesaid, Elizabeth Gorin aged about 58 years, a resident of
Barren County in the State of Kentucky who being duly
sworn according to Law, declares that she is the Widow of
John Gorin Deceased, who was at first, a Captain in a
Company Commanded by himself for a while and after
his promotion, by Captain Charles Harvey in the Tenth
Regiment of Kentucky Mounted Volunteers Commanded
by Col. Philip Barber, in the War with Great Britain
declared by the United States on the 18th day of June 1812.
That her said Husband volunteered at Glasgow Ky (& was
Elected Captain of the Company) on or about the 15th day of 
August A. D. 1813 for the Term of three months and
continued in actual service in said War for the Term
of Eighty four days and was honorably discharged at
Glasgow about the 12th day of Nov. 1813 as will appear 
by the Master Rolls of said Company & Regiment.
That her husband was promoted to Major shortly after
engaging in the Service and held that Commission till the
expiration of his Time.
She also declares that her husband was a Soldier
in the Revolutionary War and Served at least six
months according to the last information she has.  He was
at the Battle of Brandywine and was at the siege of
York Town and Surrender of Lord Cornwallis.
He was also a soldier in one of the Indian Wars
Since 1790 and served for some months, but she is unable to state the time or the Company or Regiments
which he belonged.  She has no means of ascertaining
the particulars of his Service in the War of the Revolution or Indian War, except by reference to the
Declaration made by him to obtain a Pension, which
she supposes is on file in the Pension Office in Washington
City.  She refers to the Papers on file in said office to show
the times of his Service in said Wars.  He (illegible) a
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pension for some years before & up to his death.
She further states that she was married to the
said John Gorin in Barren County Ky. on the twenty
sixth day of May A. D. 1825 by one Jacob Lock
a minister of the Gospel of the Baptist church and
that her name before her said marriage was Elizabeth
Duvall; that her said Husband died in Barren
County Kentucky on the 10th day of August A. D. 1836
and that she is still a widow.
She makes this Declaration for the purpose of
obtaining the Bounty land to which she may be 
entitled under the "Act, passed September 28th, 1850.
She herewith files the Original Record of her
marriage with said John Gorin, which is in his own
handwriting & was made at the time of or very shortly after
the marriage.  Elizabeth X Gorin
her mark
Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and 
year above written. C. Duff J.P.B.C
Dec 2nd 1850
John Gorin and Elizabeth Duval
Joined in the Bonds of Matrimony May 26th 1825.
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I do certify that the Record of the marriage
of John Gorin and Elizabeth Duval herewith filed
is in the handwriting of said John Gorin and
is without doubt the Original Family Record of
said Marriage.  I also certify that John Gorin
died in 1836 and that Elizabeth Gorin his
widow is still living and unmarried.
I knew said John Gorin & Elizabeth Gorin to be
man & wife and to so live together & be reputed, 
up to his death.  I am not interested in the
claim for bounty land made by said Widow.
I have often heard John Gorin speak of his Service
in the Revolutionary War and in one of the Indian
Wars, but do not recollect the particulars of his
service.  I recollect when he started from Home during
the War of 1812 & when he returned.
I am a son of said John Gorin by a former mar-
riage & in no way interested in the claim for Bounty
land now set up by his widow.
F Gorin
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 30th day
of Novr. 1850. W. E Mumford
Justice of the Peace within &
for Barren County Kentucky.
State of Kentucky
Barren County Sct. 
I Thos J. Helm, Clerk of the
County Court of the County and State aforesaid, do certify that
C. Duff and W.E. Mumford, whose names are signed to the
foregoing Certificates, are and were at the date of
then said Certificates, legally qualified and acting
Justices of the Peace in & for the County and State afore
said, and that their signatures to the foregoing Certificates
are genuine.  In testimony whereof, I have hereunto
set my name and affixed the seal of said County at my office this
the 3rd day of Decr. 1850. Tho J Helm CBCC. By Chas. Helm DC
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197174
Widows Claim
for 
Bounty Land
Elizabeth Gorin
War of 1812
Miller & Braun
Attys for Claimant
Washington
D.C.
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State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} Act
On this twenty fifth day of July 1855, personally appeared before me, a Judge
of the Barren County Court within and for the County and State aforesaid, Elizabeth Gorin
aged about 62 years, a resident of said County and State,
who, being duly sworn according to law, declares that She is the widow of John Gorin Deceased & that he is the identical person who served
as Major, in the Regiment of Kentucky Mount militia, commanded by Col.
in the War with Great Britian, declared by the United States, on the 18th
of June, 1812,; that he has heretofore made application for bounty land under act of Sept. 28th 1850, (to which she now refers for particulars of his service,) upon which he obtained a warrant for Forty
acres, No. which he has legally disposed of.  So that she cannot return 
it She was married to the said John Gorin in May 1826 by the
Reverand (illegible) of Lock that the said John Gorin died in Barren County on the day of August
1837.  That she is still his widow that her name before her marriage with him was Elizabeth Duvall
She makes this declaration to obtain the bounty land to which she may be entitled, under the act of Congress, passed the 3rd day of March, 1855.  She further declares that she has not received nor applied for
Bounty Land under this or any other Acts of Congress, except as above stated.
her
Elizabeth X Gorin
mark SEAL.
WE, Samuel S. Duvall and Edward M Duvall, residents of the County of Barren, State of Kentucky
upon our oaths declare that the foregoing declaration was signed and acknowledged by Elizabeth
Gorin. in our presence, that we know
the applicant that she is the person she represents hereby to be; and that we do reside in the county and state
aforesaid. and that she is yet a widow.
Saml S. Duval {SEAL.}
Edward M. Duval {SEAL.}
The foregoing declaration and affidavit were sworn to and subscribed before me, and I certify that I believe the witnesses are credible persons, that the claimant is the person he represents himself to be, and that 
I have no interest in this claim. 
WRM Ferran J. B C. C.
State of Kentucky} Sct.
County of Barren}
I hereby certify that William R McFerran, Esq., before whom the foregoing 
declaration and affidavit were made, is and was, at the time of taking the same, Judge of the Barren 
County Court within and for the county and state aforesaid, duly commissioned and qualified, and that his signature above
is genuine. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand an affixed the seal of my 
office, this 26th day of July 1855
Travis Cockrill Clerk.
by H. Crenshaw D C
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John Gorin
Kentucky.
from 1777 private
Copl & Segt. 4 month
5,12.
Pr. 21 days 2.33
Copl 2 mon/10 days 8.55
Segt. 4 mos 20-
retry $30.88
p. 218
Jun 26. 1833
Hon. C. Tompkin
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BRIEF in the case of John Gorin
County of Barren in the State of Kentucky
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1.  Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?  Court
2.  If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3.  How old is he? 69
4.  State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period Duration of Service.  Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.
Years, months, days. As a Gen.
Vol. In 1777 About 3 Sergeant Capt. T. Pollard, Cols. Rumsey &
Gilpin, Gen. Charles Scott, 
Gen. Washington
Vol Not stated private
Vol 1781 several weeks Press Master
4 or 5 Orderly Sergeant Capt. Douglass, Col. Summer, Gen. Stevenson, & Major
John Hardiman.
5.  In what battles was he engaged? Germantown, & 
Yorktown
6.  Where did he reside when he entered the service? Fairfax Cty. Va.
7.  Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by
incidental evidence, or by the rolls?  traditionary & a witness
8.  Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?  Correct
X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above
mentioned. 
T. Waugh Examining Clerk.
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a Soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen-
sion on file in this  Bureau.  John Gorin (illegible) File 25643
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. COLONEL. STATE.
1777 10 weeks Corpl Thomas Pollard Rumsey Va
Gilpin
3 weeks Pot guarded Genl Washington house during Dunmores invasion
1781 4 weeks Press Master (illegible) in Raising a troop of horse "
4 mos. Orderly Sgt Hugh Douglass Summers Meriweather "
8 weeks wagon master "
this date was taken from B. L. Was also a soldier for several months in one of the Indian Wars Since 1790, dates
company and regt. not known, also
Aug. 30, 1813 Nov 3, 1813 Major under Col. Barbour
65448-120-5-5-
Battles engaged in, Germantown and taking of Cornwallis
(B. L.) F. Gorin stated in 1850 that he was soldiers son by a former marriage.  name of his mother not given
Very respectfully
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a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen-
sion on file in this Bureau.  John Gorin trust File 
15643
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Fairfax Va near Alexandria
Date of application for pension, Sept. 28, 1832 His cl. was al.
Residence at date of application, Barren Co. Ky
1832
64
1763
Age at date of application, {born May 15, 1763 in Fairfax Co. Va near Alexandria
{died Aug. 5, 1837 in Barren Co. Ky
Remarks:
Soldier married in Barren Co. Ky. May 26, 1825, Elizabeth Duvall
She was allowed pension on an application executed Sept. 29, 1855,
while a resident of Barren Co. Ky aged 62 yrs.  In 1856 son Thomas
J. Gorin was a resident of Barren Co Ky
(The above listed as the only Soldier of that name &c)
(B. L.) F. Gorin stated in 1850 that he was soldier's son by a former marriage.  Name
his mother not given
Very respectfully,
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John Gorin
copy
marriage record
Elizabeth Duvall
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Know all men by these presents that we John 
Gorin and George Rogers are held and firmly bound
unto the Commonwealth of Kentucky in the sum
of Fifty pounds Current money which payment will
and truly to be made we bind ourselves and our heirs
firmly by these presents sealed and dated this 25"
day of May 1825 The condition of the above Obligation
is that whereas there is a Marriage shortly intended
to be solemnized between the above bound John
Gorin & Elizabeth Duvall for which a license has
issued the above Obligation to be void elze
to remain in full force & virtue
John Gorin seal
George Rogers seal
Certificate of Marriage
by the Reverend Jacob Lock
1825 May 2 John Gorin & Elizabeth Duvall"
State of Kentucky }
County of Barren} ss.
I Travis Cockrill clerk of the county
Court in the County & State aforesaid Hereby Certify that the
above & foregoing marriage bond & Certificants of marriage, are
a full & complete Transcript from the files & records of
my office of the marriage of John Gorin & Elizabeth
Duvall, The license which issued upon the Execution of
the above bond never having been returned to this office
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set.
my name & affixed the seal of said
Court at office in Glasgow Kentucky
this 2nd November 1855
Travis Cockrill CBlele
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[typed letter]

May 11, 1933
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

John Gorin, W. 25643
William Skaggs, W. 2182
BA-J/MMIF:MLB

Mrs. C. G. Young
Proctor, Arkansas

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your request of recent date for the records of John Gorin and William Skaggs, soldiers of the Revolutionary War.
Their records follow, as found in the claims for pension based upon their service in the Revolutionary War.

[underlined] JOHN GORIN, W. 25643
John Gorin was born May 15, 1763, in Fairfax County, Virginia, near Alexandria. The names of his parents are not stated.
While residing in Fairfax County, Virginia, he volunteered in 1777, in the Virginia militia as corporal, under Captains Thomas Pollard, was attached to Colonels Rumsey and Gilpin’s regiment, and was in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown, length of this service ten weeks. Shortly after returning home, he went as a private and guarded General Washington’s house for three weeks. In 1781 he served four weeks as a press master in raising a troop of horse. A short time after, he served four months as orderly sergeant under Captains Hugh Douglass and Colonels Summers and Meriweather and was at the siege of Yorktown. He was then appointed a wagonmaster and served eight weeks conveying Cornwallis’ baggage to Baltimore. He also served some months in one of the Indian wars subsequent to 1790, no details of servce given. He volunteered at Glasgow, Kentucky, and served as a major under Colonel Barbour, from August 30, 1813, to November 3, 1813.
He married May 26, 1823, in Barren County, Kentucky, Elizabeth Duvall.
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[continuation of typed letter]
John Gorin was allowed pension on his services in the Revolution, on an application executed September 28, 1832, while a resident of Barren County, Kentucky.
He died August 5, 1837, in Barren County, Kentucky.
Soldier’s widow, Elizabeth, was allowed pension on an application executed September 29, 1855, while a resident of Barren County, Kentucky, aged sixty-two years.
In 1850, F. Gorin stated that he was soldier’s son by a former marriage; the name of his mother is not stated.
In 1856, soldier’s son, Thomas J. Gorin, was a resident of Barren County, Kentucky.
***************
[underlined] WILLIAM SKAGGS, W. 2182
He was born in North Carolina in 1757; the names of his parents are not given.
William Skaggs enlisted in Virginia March 1, 1778, and served eight months as an Indian spy in Captain Thomas Mastin’s Virginia company. He enlisted in the spring of 1779 and served three months in Captains Mastin’s and Beau’s companies, Colonel Shelby’s Virginia regiment and was in several skirmishes with the Indians.
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 23, 1832, while residing in Green County, Kentucky.
He died August 20, 1848, in Green County, Kentucky.
William Skaggs married September2, 1802, Polly Pearce. She was allowed pension on her application executed March 10, 1853, while residing in Green County, Kentucky, aged eighty years. It is not stated whether they had children.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator

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December 1, 1931.
BA-J/MMHF
Copied from let. of Sept.
29, 1930
Mr. Henry J. Gorin
506 Central Building,
Seattle, Washington.
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter received
November 30, 1931, relative to securing data in
regard to John Gorin (W. 25643) a soldier of the
Revolutionary War.
The full history of that soldier follows, as
found in the records of this office.
The data contained herein are obtained from
the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim,
W.25643, based upon his military service in that war.
John Gorin was born May 15, 1763, in Fairfax
County, Virginia, near Alexandria.
While residing in Fairfax County, he volunteered
in 1777 in the Virginia Militia as corporal, under
Captain Thomas Pollard, was attached to Colonels
Rumsey and Gilpin's regiment and was in the battles
of Brandywine and Germantown, length of this service
then weeks.  Shortly after returning home, he went as 
a private and guarded General Washington's house for
three weeks.
In 1781, he served four weeks as a press
master in raising a troop of horse.
A short time after, he served four months as a 
orderly sergeant under Captain Hugh Douglass and 
Colonels Summers and Meriweather and was at the siege 
of Yorktown.
He was then appointed a wagonmaster and served
eight weeks, conveying Cornwallis' baggage to Baltimore.
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[Column 1, heading "SERVICE"]

Va.
Indian War and War of 1812

[Column 2]

Gorin, John
           Elizabeth

[Column 3, heading "NUMBER"]

W25643
B.L. Wt. 65448 - 120-55
B.L. Wt. 65991 - 40 - 50
allowed on services in War of 1812.
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ev. and 1812
Wars Section
AWF:MLB
September 29, 1930
Miss Marion Wood
549 West North Street
Decatur, Illinois
Dear Madam:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the
Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 25643, that John Gorin
was born May 15, 1763, in Fairfax County, Virginia, near Alexandria.
While residing in Fairfax County, he volunteered in 1777,
in the Virginia militia as corporal, under Captain Thomas
Pollard, was attached to Colonels Rumsey and Gilpin's regiment, 
and was in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown, length of this service ten 
weeks.  Shortly after returning home, he went as a private and 
guarded General Washington's house for three weeks.
in 1781, he served four weeks as a press master in raising a troop of horse.
A short time after, he served four months as an orderly
sergeant under Captain Hugh Douglass and Colonels Summers and 
Meriweather and was at the siege of Yorktown.
He was then appointed a wagonmaster and served eight weeks, conveying
He also served some months in one of the Indian Wars
subsequent to 1790, no details of service given.
He volunteered at Glasgow, Kentucky, and served as a major
under Colonel Barbour, from August 30, 1813, to November 3, 1813.
He married May 26, 1825, in Barren County, Kentucky,
Elizabeth Duvall.
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He was allowed pension on acct. by his ser. in the Rev on an application executed September
28, 1832, while a resident of Barren County, Kentucky, and He died
August 5, 1837, in Barren Co. Ky. 
His widow Elizabeth was allowed pension on an application 
executed September 29, 1855, while a resident of Barren County,
Kentucky, aged sixty-two years.
In 1850, F. Gorin stated that he was soldier's son by a 
former marriage, the name of his mother is not stated.
In 1856, son Thomas J. Gorin was a resident of Barren County,
Kentucky. 
Very Truly Yours
E. W. MORGAN
Acting Commissioner
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Rev. and 1818
War section.
Widow File, 25643.

July 23, 1924.

Marie L. Gorin,
The Clyde,
811 Pacific Ave.,
Atlantic City, N.J.

Madam;

I have to advise you that the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Gorin, whose history was furnished you on September 4, 1915, also voluntered at Glasgow, Kentucky and served in the War of 1812 as a Major, under Colonel Barbour from August 30, 1813 to November 3, 1813.

His widow, Elizabeth, was allowed bounty land in full satisfaction for his services rendered in said War.

There is no further data on file of soldier's services in Indain War, other than that furnished you on September 4, 1915.

Respectfully,
Commissioner.
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November 27, 1915.

Mrs. Addison G. Ricaud,
211 South 5th Street,
Wilmington, N.C.

Madam:

In reply to your letter without date, received the 20th instant, you are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War claim of John Gorin, W. File No. 25643, that he was born May 15, 1763, in Fairfax County, Virginia, near Alexandria, and while residing there, volunteered in 1777, in the Virginia militia as Corporal under Captain Thomas Pollard, was attached to Colonels Rumsey and Gilpin's Regiment, and was in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown, served ten weeks.  Shortly after returning home he went as a Private and guarded General Washington's house for three weeks.

In 1781, he served four weeks as a Press Master in raising a troop of Horse.

A short time after, he served four months as an Orderly Sergeant under Captain Hugh Douglass and Colonels Summers and Meriweather and was at the Siege of Yorktown.
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He was then appointed a wagon master and served eight weeks.

He also served some months in one of the Indian Wars subsequent to 1790, no details of service given.

He volunteered at Glasgow, Kentucky, and served as a Major under Colonel Barbour, from August 30, 1813, to November 3, 1813.

He married, May 26, 1825, in Barren County, Kentucky, Elizabeth Duvall.  He was allowed pension on an application executed September 28, 1838, while a resident of Barren County, Kentucky, and died in said County, August 5, 1837.

His widow Elizabeth was allowed pension on an application executed September 29, 1855, while a resident of Barren County, Kentucky, aged sixty-two years.

In 1850, F. Gorin stated that he was soldier's son by a former marriage, the name of his mother is not stated.

In 1856, son Thomas J. Gorin was a resident of Barren County, kentucky.

Very respectfully,
GM Saltzgaber
Commissioner.

Gorin -2-
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West Point Miss
January 30, 1911
Bureau of Pensions
Washington D. C. 
Please give me as early
as possible, record of
Col John Gorin of
Fairfax Co Va near
Alexandria.
His wife's name was
Elizabeth Duvall.
Please if possible give
list of his children
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& dates of birth.  He was
twice married-name
above given was name 
of first wife.  He was
a pension soldier
Very Respt
Mr. S. E. F. Rose
7 East Main St
West Point
Miss
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(illegible) W. F. 25643 Rev. War
C5.448
120 acres
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3-595
O. W. AND N. DIVISION
Record Division.
Department of the Interior
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
Oct. , 1909
Searched by V.L. M.
Original No.
Certificate No.
Claimant,
Soldier, John Gorin
Service Rev. War.
Remarks: No O. W. Inv.
Wid. or rejected
Except Wid. File 25643
Chief of Division
27498b4m2-07
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3-871
RECORD DIVISION
Department of the Interior,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Briefed by A. Ward. 7/2'/11
Claim No.
Certificate No.
Claimant
Soldier John Gorin
Service
Additional Service 1812
wifes name Elizabeth Duvall
No claim, State records , 191
No claim, combination records , 191
REMARKS
No1812 Sur. any service
" 1812 Wid. " "
wifes name Martha Thomas
exe. Wid. Ctf. 2801 (Ky.)
(Martha) John D.
No O.W.Furn or Wid any service
This soldier died Apr. 26, 1846
and John Gorin Rev. Service & War
1812 died Aug. 5, 1837 (W.F. 25640)
6-1944 Chief Division
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Elizabeth Gorin
amended apli
cation for a pen
sion Oproof
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State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} Sct
On this 2nd day of September 1856
personally appeared before me the presiding
Judge of the Barren County Court Elizabeth
Gorin whome I know to be the widow of John
Gorin & Deceased who died a pensioner of the
United States and after being duly Sworn
declares that her Said husband John Gorin
died in the County and State aforesaid on the
5th day of August 1837  She sends herewith as
evidence of that fact the evidence of Thom
as J Gorin and James Leeper with a copy
of the endorsement on the toomstone of said
John Gorin Died She further declares that if
it is inserted in her application heretofore
filed for a pension that the Said Gorin Died
in August 1836 it was a mistake by the 
Draftsman of the papers and was unobsered
by her She makes this as additional evid
ence for a pension under the act of  
Congress Elizabeth gorin
Sworn to and Subscribed before me the day
and date above written
WRM Ferran J.B.C.C.
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State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} s.s.
I Travis Cockrill Clerk of 
the County Court for the County & State aforesaid Certify that
WR McFerran who has Signed the foregoing Certificate
is now and was at the time of Signing the Same Judge
of the County Court for the County & State aforesaid, duly
Elected and qualified And that full faith and
Credit are due all his official acts & that his
Signature thereto is Genuine
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto
Set my hand and offered the
Seal of Said County this 3rd day
of September 1856
Travis Cockrill Clerk
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State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} sct.
At a County Court began & held before the
County & State aforesaid on Monday August the 18th 1856
The following proceedings were had (before W.R. McFerran
Judge) viz:
"on motion of Elizabeth Gorin widow of John Gorin
Decd who was a revolutionary Pensioner It is ordered to be 
certified that proof was this day made in Open Court
by the Oaths of James Leeper & Thos. J. Gorin, who are
both known to the Court to be credible witnesses, that
they have on this day Examined the Tombstone of
said John Gorin decd & that from the inscription engraved
thereon said John Gorin died on the 5th day of August
1837. And the Said Thos J. Gorin further Stated that
he is a son of said John Gorin decd & had the Tombstone
Engraved at the time it was Erected Over the grave of
his said Father. & that he was the only revolutionary
Soldier by the Name of John Gorin in this County, 
State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} ss.
I Travis Cockrill clerk of the County Court for said
County Certify that the foregoing is a full & complete transcript
from the record of my office of the proceeding of said in
the case therein mentioned in as full a manner as the Same is
of record in my office
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand
and affixed the seal of said County this 3rd day of
September 1856
Travis Cockrill clk
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Ky
Elizabeth Gorin
wid
John
Pension Claim
Act of Feby 3rd 1853
Elizabeth Gorin widow of
John Gorin
Ad 32 13937
Triplett
Miller Braun
attys for Claimant
Washinton 
D. C.
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State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} ss.
On this 29th day of September A.D. 1855, before the
County Court of Barren County held within and for the County and State
aforesaid personally appeared Elizabeth Gorin aged 62 years, a resi-
dent of the County of Barren and State of Kentucky; who being duly
sworn according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following decla-
ration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the
act of Congress, passed on the 3rd February, 1853; granting pensions
to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War; that
she is the widow of John Gorin deceased, who was a Revolutionary 
pensioner under the act of Congress passed June 7th, 1832.
at the rate of thirty dollars and eighty eight cents per annum.
which was paid him at the Pension agency in the State
of Kentucky; for proof of her said husband's services she
refers to his papers now on file in the pension office.
She further states that she was married to the said John Gorin
in Barren County State of Kentucky on the 26th day of May A. D.
1826; by one Jacob Lock a Baptist (illegible); and that her
name before her said marriage was Elizabeth Duvall;
that her husband died at Barren County Kentucky on the 
day of August A.D. 1836.  That she was not married to him 
prior to the second of January eighteen hundred, but at the time a-
bove stated, and she further states that there is a public rec-
ord of her marriage, and a private record of her husbands
death both of which are now on file with the dec-
laration by her for Bounty Land under the act of September
28-1850- And she further states that she has never mar-
ried since her said husband's death, but is still his widow.
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She hereby appoints Miller & Braun of Washington D. C. her
true and lawful attorneys, with power of substitution, to prosecute
this her claim for a pension, to receive the Certificate when issued, and to do all other acts necessary and proper in the premises.
Attest her
Elizabeth X Gorin
mark
Sworn to and Subscribed before me, on the day and year first above
mentioned, and I hereby certify that I know the said deponent
Elizabeth Gorin and believer her to be as is above stated, and that 
she is of the age above stated; and further, that I am not inter
ested in this her claim as attorney or otherwise.
Witness my hand and the seal of said Court affixed by order
of said Court now in session.
Travis Cockrill clerk
State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} ss.
On this 29 day of September A. D. 1855, personally 
appeared before me the undersigned, a justice of the peace in
and for said County Charles Denton and James P. Bates
who are to me well known, and who are credible witnesses, and
who being by me duly sworn, depose and say, that they are 
each well acquainted with Mrs. Elizabeth Gorin, the above
applicant for a pension. that they have known her or 
20 ears last past.  That they were acquainted with
John Gorin deceased, her late husband, having known him
for 20 years previous to his death; that they, the said John Gorin and Elizabeth Gorin lived together as hus-
band and wife, and were reputed so to be;
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That deponents never heard the fact of their marriage disputed or
questioned.  That the said John Gorin died on the day of August
A.D. 1836; and the said Elizabeth Gorin, has been since that day, and
still is reputed to be his widow, which deponents believe to be the
fact; That she has never married since her said husbands
death, and still is his widow, and that her said husband was
the identical man mentioned as a pensioner in her declara-
tion above; and further, that they were present and saw Eliza-
bett (illegible), execute the forgoing affidavit by making her
(illegible) to the foregoing declaration, and making oath thereto
in due form of law, and that they, deponents, do reside in the County aforesaid. 
Attest J P Bates
Charles Denton
Sworn to and subscribed before me, this 29th day of Septr A.D. 1855.
John Montague J. T. P.
State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} ss.
I hereby Certify that John Montague Esq. before whom
the forgoing affidavits and Power of Attorney were made and
acknowledged, and who has thereto subscribed his name. was
at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace in and for the
County aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn, and that his
signature thereto is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereto set my hand and affixed the seal of the
Barren County Court for the County aforesaid, this 29th day of Septr. 1855.
Travis Cockrill clerk
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Additional
Mrs. Elizabeth Gorin 
Bounty Land
Claims
Additional proof 
to be filed with
her Declaration
which was recd at
the Pension Office
between the 9 & 20th
Decr. 1851.
Gorin & Rogers
attor.
Glasgow 
Ky
Hooe
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State of Kentucky}
County of Barren} ss.
On this 8th Ocober 1856, personally appeared be-
fore me, a Justice of the Peace within & for the County and 
State aforesaid, Drury Clark, of said County who being duly
sworn according to Law declares That he was a private in the
Company Commanded at first by Captain John Gorin & after-
wards by Captn Charles Harvey in the Regiment of
Ky. Militia Commanded by Col. Barber in
the War with Great Britian declared in June 1812. and
served in said Company from the 15th Augst to 15th Nov.
1813.  He states that for said service he has obtained
a Bounty Land Warrant for 40 acres of land which
Warrant was issued on the 28th day of Septr. 1851 & is
numbered 18.874.  He states that John Gorin (whose
widow is Claimant under the Bounty Land Act of Septr. 1850 for the services of her deceased Husband) was out on that Cam-
paign & in actual service for the whole time said Company
were.  He left home (Glasgow Ky) as the Captain
of said
Company & at Newport Ky, he (s Gorin) was promoted
to be a Major and in that Capacity & office served the
time aforesaid. Drury Clark
Sworn to & subscribed before me the day & year afsd.
And I hereby certify that & know so.  Clark to be 
a man of veracity & have no doubt he served as afsd,
& correctly lets out the facts in the case of Major John
Gorin now deceased. Stephen Ratliff
Justice of the Peace in & for the
County & State afrd.
Travis Cockrill Clerk
Barren County Court
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Pension papers of
Elizabeth Gorin
Please examine them
Sec, case on whish
warrant No 1
was issued
120 acres
Triplett
For Evidence of marriage
record see Bounty land
claim warrant 
No 65.448
Miller Brown
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Pension Office May 7th/56
Hon. F Minot
Dr Sir.  In your letter
to us of No 13th/55, I was stated that the pension
case of Eliz Gorin of Ky could not (illegile)
did to until her bounty application should
be recorded.  We have read the warrant 
some two weeks since, and the marri-
age record will be found with it.  The
warrant is No 65.991 (illegible)
Please examine pension papers.
Yours
Miller Brown
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Pension Office, July 10,1856
The kind auditor will please give a new
Certificate in this case, and also state whom the
last payment appears to have ben paid To the
claim for arrears still pending?
Very respectfully R. McRae
Hon Commissioner
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3rd Auditors Office
July 11, 1836
Sir: 
The report made by this office on the 10th Nov. 1833 in
the case of John Gorin, act 1832, Ky, agency, at $30.88 per annum, appears
on further examination to be a strictly correct.  The arrears
have not been paid.  The last payment made to
4 Mar. 1837, was made to the pensioner thru his atty Joseph Ficklin.
Very Respy
J. Minot Esq: Rob J Swinson
Comm. of Pensions Auditor
(illegible)
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Pension Office
July 12, 1856
Gentlemen,
In relation the claim of Elizabeth
Gorin, widow of John Gorin, Act Feb 13, 1833, you are
informed, that from a more definite report of the Third
Auditor dated 11th inst. it now appears that the
last payment in the case of John Gorin, wasmade on
the 4th March 1837, to the pensioner through his Atty
Joseph Ficklin.  The allegation and proof of 
the present Claimant show that her husband died
in August 1836.  This discrepancy
creates a doubt as to the fact of the claimant 
being the pensioner for whose services she asserts
this claim.  
Very RespAfours
(illegible)
Comm.
Messrs Miller and Brown
Present
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Treasury Department
Third Auditor's Office
Novr. 10th 1833
Sir.
In reply to your enquiry of the 
9th inst, enclosing the papers in the
case of John Gorin, Kentucky roll, Act of June  1832
at $30.88 per annum. I have to inform you 
that it appears from the books of this
office that was paid to 4 March 1837. From
an application, for arrears of pension due to
the widow of the pensioner, filed by messers
Miller & Brown, the pensioner appears to have 
died August 1836.  The papers are herewith
returned. Very Respectfully
Your Obt. Servt
Robt J Swinson
Auditor
J Minot. Esq.
Commr. of Pensions.
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31.308
Auditor's Office
24 June 1852.
John Gorin served as
Major under Col Barbour
from 20 August 1813 to the
3 November 1813
B F Gallaher
(illegible)
Page 52

Brief in the case of Elizabeth Gorin, widow of John Gorin
Barren County and State of Kentucky
act February 3, 1853
Claim, ("original")
Proof exhibited, (if original)
Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls?  If either, state the substance.
Husband was a pensioner under act of June 7, 
1832, at rate of $30.88, and died August 5, 1837, as shown
by parol.
Marriage, May 26, 1825, proved by transcript
from County Court records
(illegible) of claimant as widow of the pensioner, 
he death, and her present widowhood proved by
James P Bates, Charles Benton, and other audible witnesses
Messers. Miller & Brown
Washington, 
Name and residence of Agent R Geddes
D. C. Examining Clerk
Page 53

additional evidence
Elizabeth Gorin
suspended under act 1853
from Kentucky
Triplett
Miller & Brown
Present
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Washington D.C. Nov 8/55
Hon J Minot, Com of Pensions
Sir.  Herewith final proof
of marriage of Elizabth Gorin suspended applicant
for pension under 2nd section of act Feby 3/53
Please have the case reexamined
Yours Respectfully
Miller & Brown
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Pension Office
May 23, 1836.

Gentlemen,
I have examined the papers in the Case of Mrs Elizabeth Gorin, an applicant for pension, under act of Feb. 14, 1853. in Connection with those filed in her bounty land claim, & find the marriage satisfactorily established. It, however, appears that the pension of her husband's name was paid 4th March 1837, whereas it would seem, from the proof now on file that he died in August 1836. It moreover appears from a Certificate of the 3rd Auditor, that from an appln. pending before him for the arrears of pension, the pensioner died at the latter period. The claim Cannot, Therefore, be properly adjusted, until the true date of his death be satisfactorily proved.
If his widow received more than she was entitled to in the shape of arrears of pension, such amount should be deducted from her allowance under act of '53, or refunded to the government, before the Certificate can be issued.
Very Respectfully,
J Minot
Commr.

Witness Miller & Brown
Present
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Pension
Nov  13, 1855
Gentlemen
I have written evidence
of marriage in the case of Elizabeth
Gorin widow of John of Ky (act
Feb 3rd 1853.
It appears that John Gorin
was paid to 4th March 1837.  The present
claimant arrears and her witnesses
prove that her husband died in August
1836.  This case cannot be disposed
of until the Bounty Land claim
is (illegible), it being sated that
private record evidence of the
date of death of claimant's husband
is among the papers in that case.
(illegible)
Very Resp.
Your Obt St.
B Hooe
Messers Miller & Brown} for Comms
Present}
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L. W.
W. F. 25643
C
OPEN ALL THE YEAR
The Clyde
6D11 PACIFIC AVENUE
ATALANTIC CITY N. J.
THE MISSES GORIN
Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington D. C.
Gentlemen
In 1915 Smote, asking
for the Revolutionary War Record (2-525)
of John Gorin sent it to me.
Now I am asking for her record
in the War of 1812.  John Gorin had
moved from Fairfax Co. Va. to Glasgo Ky.
where he raised a Company, when Governor
Isaac Shelly called for Kentucky Volunteers.
(illegible) Captain, Major and General
(during that war but I have no official
record that I need to join the 
Daughters of 1812 .  John Gorin
over
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C 
OPEN ALL THE YEAR
The Clyde
611 PACIFIC AVENUE
ATALANTIC CITY N. J. 
THE MISSES GORIN
was my Great Grandfather.  If 
you can not give me the record
I want could you tell me where
to apply for it.  Thanking you
for any trouble you may take
for me
Sincerely Yours
Marie L. Gorin
June 17th/24
He also fought in one of the
Indian Wars.  Have no official
record of it.
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Rev Sec
Kindly give me any 
information you can 
about gen John Gorin
of Kentucky also
if given a pension,
& any other data
you may have in that
(illegible) also are
Page 60

if a man by name 
of Murrell of
Virginia, was a 
Revolutionary soldier
et. By letting
me know this data 
at your earliest
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convenience, you will
oblige.
Yours Truly
Mrs. Addison G. Ricaud
211 S. 5th Street
Wilmington N. C.
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one l2 ct Stamp
Enclosed AR OK Rurs
Stamp retd
id. 
Rev Sec
C 
OPEN ALL THE YEAR
The Clyde
611 PACIFIC AVENUE
ATLANTIC CITY N. J. 
THE MISSES GORIN
Commisioner of Pensions
Pension Bureau Washington
D. C. 
Dear Sir
Will you 
please send me a copy
of the pension granted to
John Gorin in 1833 in BarrrenCo
Kentucky for service during the
Rev. as private, Corporal and 
Sergent.  Thanking you for the
trouble in sending me this copy.
Very Truly
Marie L. Gorin 
Aug. 24th/15
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West Point, Miss
Sep 26 - 1909.

Bureau of Pensions:
Washington D.C.
Please give me as soon as possible information about Gen John Gorin, said to have been a pensio soldier He was from Va - married Elizabeth Franklin - & afterwards - in 1798 moved to Glasgow Ky -
Address
Mrs Laura M. Rose
7 East Main St
West Point
Miss.

[stamp]
PENSION
A
SEP
U. 29 S.
1909
OFFICE.
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Washington D.C. Oct. 10th/55.
Hon. J Minot.
Dr Sir - Herewith please find declaration of Elizabeth Gorin for pension under act of Feby 3rd/53 - Her husband John Gorin was a pensioner under Act of 18352 - She rec'd 40 Acre Warrant under act of 1850, and has file da claim under act of /55 - She refers to evidence of service - marriage and death of husband contained in the documented papers - We desire to have this claim filed and expedited at as early a day as the rules of the office permit - 
Respectfully
Miller & Brown
By Israel Williams

N. B. 197 174 is the No. of Mrs. Gorin's Claim under act of 1855 -
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John Gorin

Objection "V" "XII"
"XIV" Amended
Page 66

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Gorin which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for him not doing so? -

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes

V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? No

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes
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2

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? two Citizens

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? No

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? Y witness

XIV. [notation sign 1]If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? No
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office? Yes

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes

XVI. [notation sign 2]Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
_________________________
EXPLANATORY NOTES.

*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For ___________ year _____________ months, and _________ days, I served as a ______________ For _____________ months and ___________ days, I served as a _______________; and for such service I claim a pension.”
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase "about three or four months" is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[notation sign 1]QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[notation sign 2]QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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197.174
31.308 Dec 11/50
Elizabeth Gorin (wid
John Gorin (dec (Capt
Ky. Mil. 
Col. Philip Barbor
En 15th Augt 1813
dis 13 Nov 1813
3d Aud. July. 19/87
No Roll of Capt
Owens Co. Ky 'ma an
found on file in this
office
3 aud office
E A Gallagher July 22/54
[illegible] For 3d Audr
Del - 40 Acres
(nd:)
W 59 91 yd
July 21/52 recover
Com & Rodgers
DL
Glasgow, K
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August 8 A-
7 Gorin 81
R9 Hart
N C Virgna

Vol 62-155
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State of Kentucky
County of Barren} SS
On this 27th day of March 1833 personally appeared in open court before the Judge of the Barren circuit court now sitting John Gorin, aged 69 years Who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following Declaration as an amendment to his Declaration which he heretofore to wit On the 28th September 1832 made out, and sent on to the War Department & in which this is attached, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. In 1777 when he volunteered when he volunteered under Captain Thomas Pollar & Lieutenant William D. Neale, & in which Tour he was in the Battle of Germantown he served to the best of his recollection, as a Corporal, ten weeks, and not as Sergeant as was stated in his original Declaration which he presumes was done thro mistake. When Called upon to guard Genl Washington's Home he acted as a Private at least three weeks. When in 1781 he acted as Sress Master to raise a company of horse, he served in that Capacity at least 4 weeks. Under Captain Hugh Douglass he served in the Capacity of an orderly Sergeant at least four months. He was then appointed a Waggon Master on an Escort to Loudon County, in which service he acted as Waggon Master at least 4 weeks, and which is not mentioned in his original Declaration. He was engaged in conducting & overseeing part of the waggons which conveyed Cornwallis's Troops and Baggage to Baltimore, at least 4 weeks. And for the above service He Claims a Pension.
Sworn and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid
John Gain

We Sylvarus M Bazley a Clergyman residing in the County of Barren and Samuel Marrill & James Merrill residing in Barron County hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Gorin who has subscribed and sworn to the above Declaration and also the one [illegible] subscribed and sworn by G Gorin on the 28th September 1832 and to which the above is an Amendment; that we believe him to be 69 years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
Sylvaney M. Bagley
Saml Merrel
Jno. Merrill
And the said court doth hereby declare its opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department in the
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nation which the applicant therefore enlist on the 28th September 1832
made out before this court that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and Served as he states; and the court further certifies
that it appears to it that Sylvanus M Bagby who has signed the
preceding certificate as a clergyman resident in the County of Barron and that Samuel Murrell & James Murrell,  who have also signed the same are
Residing in the same County and credible persons, and
that their statement certified to credit. 
J Richard Garnett clerk of the Circuit Court of  Barron County
to hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original 
proceedings of the said court, and report, to be in the 
matter of the application of John Gorin for a Pension
In the testimony whereof I
have hereunto set my hand
and seal of Office this
29th day of March 1833
{signature} Richard Garnett
Jon Gorin
Declaration
[illegible] ?
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ERNEST MACPHERSON,
ATTORNEY AT LAW,
LOUISVILLE TRUST BUILDING.

Louisville, Ky., March 3, 1904.

Hon. Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

Sir:-

The name of John Gorin, of Barren County, Kentucky, (a major in the war of 1812) who was a sergeant of Virginia Militia in the Revolutionary War, and a pensioner, should appear on the records of your office with the number of his regiment and letter of company, where enlisted, and services in the last mentioned war.  I desire respectfully to request that you refer this letter to the proper officer of your department for the facts and request an official certificate accordingly.  Also be kind enough to advise me of the fee, and I shall remit promptly.

Yours very truly,
Ernest Macpherson

Postage for reply enclosed

no fee

[rubber stamp with the following in lower right corner of letter]

U.S. PENSION OFFICE
MAR 5 1904
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Suspended pension papers under act of A.D. 1853 of
Elizabeth Gorin widow
of John   See Ky files
Miller or Brown
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Pension Office
Oct. 28, 1856

Gentlemen

In December last you filed a paper which was additional evidence in support of the claim for pension of Elizabeth Gorin, widow of John.  You accompanied this paper by a note describing it as an application for bounty land, and the paper was enveloped, registered, and filed as an application for bounty land under the act of March 3d 1855 and numbered 229.579.  Rejected.
Elizabeth Gorin received a warrant for 160 acres of land under the act of Sept. 28, 1850 and any further claim in her behalf for bounty land is inadmissible.
I am, Very respectfully,
Your Obt. Sevt.
C.H. Rhett
for Commissioner

Messrs. Miller & Brown
Present

Dodge
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Pension Office  Oct. 29, 1856

Hon. W.C. Whiting
Comm. of Pensions

The claim to which the foregoing letter applies, I would say, that we never intended to file the papers referred to by you as an application for bounty land, but to support her claim for a pension.

She rec'd 40 acres of land under act of 50, and 120 under act of 55, we obtained for [illegible] woman many months ago.
We remain yours
Miller & Brown

P.S. We mail you letter and our note to place with the papers.
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Henry Jerome Gorin
Attorney at Law
506 Central Building
Seattle, Washington

The Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

Gentlemen:

Some time ago my cousin Mr. Ernest Macpherson of Louisville turned over to me a letter regarding the service of our ancestor John Gorin in the Revolutionary War which he had received from the acting Commissioner of pensions.  A copy of this letter I herewith enclose.

Will you please advise me at your early convenience what it will cost for a certified copy of the service record of John Gorin as set out in this letter, and oblige,
Respectfully
Henry J. Gorin.


[STAMP]
Received
Nov 30 1931
Recept Section
Pension Files Sub-division
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W? and No. Division
3- 525 
I.S.C.
Mid. File 25,643
Rev. War.

Department of the Interior.
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C.
March 17, 1904

Sir:
In reply to your request for a statement of the military history of John Gorin, a soldier of the Revolutionary War, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (and his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau:

Dates of Enlistment or appointment.
1777
Length of Service.
10 wks
Rank.
Corp.
Officers under whom service was rendered.
Captain Thomas Pollard
Colonel Ramsay & Gilpin
State.
Va.

Dates of Enlistment or appointment.
1777
Length of Service.
3 wks
Rank.
Private
Officers under whom service was rendered.
To guard Genl Washington's house
State.
Va.

Dates of Enlistment or appointment.
1781
Length of Service.
4 wks
Rank.
Pressmaster to raise a company of horse
Officers under whom service was rendered.

State.
Va.

Dates of Enlistment or appointment.
1781
Length of Service.
4 wks
Rank.
Ordly. Srgt.
Officers under whom service was rendered.
Captain Hugh Douglass
Colonel Sumners & Merriweather.
State.
Va.

Dates of Enlistment or appointment.
1781
Length of Service.
4 wks
Rank.
Wagon Master conveying Cornwallis's baggage to Baltimore.
Officers under whom service was rendered.

State.
Va.

Battles engaged in:  Germantown and Yorktown.
Residence of soldier at Enlistment:  Fairfax County, Virginia.
Date of application for pension:  September 28, 1832.
Residence at date of application:  Barren County, Kentucky
Age at date of application:  Born May 15, 1763, Fairfax Co. Va.

Remarks:  His claim was allowed.
He married Elizabeth Duvall, May 26, 1825, in Barren Co., Ky. and August 5, 1837, she was pensioned as his widow.

Had son Thomas J. (F) gorin.

Very respectfully
(signed) J.S. Davenport
Acting commissioner.

Mr. Ernest Macpherson
Louisville, Trust Bldg.
Louisville, Hy.

[STAMP]
Received
Nov 30 1931
Recept Section
Pension Files Sub-Division
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Additional Evidence in the case of Elizabeth Gorin, applicant for a Revolutionary pension under act of 53
See Ky. files


Miller & Brown
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Pension Office  Sept 18th/56
Hon J. Minot
Com of Pensions

Dr Sir
We herewith enclose you some additional evidence in the case of Elizabeth Gorin suspended under act of 53 (She is an applicant for a Revolutionary pension)  It is now placed upon the suspended files for the exact date of her husband's death.

The widow makes affidavit to the effect that the error was committed by the framer of the papers, such mistakes do often occur;  and do more generally occur in dates than anything else.  In the papers now on file, the date is placed in A.D. 1836, and it really occurred in A.D. 1837;  We now submit proof of two witnesses worthy of credit, that, date on the tombstone makes it 37, and not 36.  This ought to be rec'd as quite sufficient evidence as to date of death of husband;  1837 will agree with the
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Auditors account of it;  and further, all the evidence on file goes to show that John Gorin's death took place in August (if we remember its papers correctly)  The fact that all seem to place the date of the death in the same month of the year brings us to the conclusion, that this Elizabeth Gorin must be the widow of John the pensioner.

This same John Gorin was a soldier in the last war (1812).  The widow made application under act of A.D. 1850 for bounty land, and if our memory serves us correctly, she stated that application was a soldier in the War of the Revolution.  Although at that time she was not entitled to land for that service, not had she a promise of a pension at the time.  This is further proof that she was and is the widow of a Revolutionary soldier.  The only question now remaining for us now to settle, is she the widow of John Gorin  This
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a pensioner.  If she is, she ought to be granted the small pension which was at one time paid her husband.  If she is not the widow of John Gorin the case should be rejected;  We trust that the case may be once more taken from the suspended files, and a favorable examination made of all the papers.  We regard the case certainly to be one of merit, and justified although unfortunate.  The widow we are told is quite poor and deserving.

We are yours truly
Miller & Brown

O.S.  She has rec'd 160 acres of bounty land.
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No. 6014
Elizabeth Gorin
Widow of John
Kentucky
Miller & Brown  Octo. 12 1855
Same Nov. 13 1855
(see auds certif within)
Miller & Brown May 23/56
Same July 12/56
Third Auditor July 16/56
Messrs. Miller & Brown
July 29, 1856
3d Auditor July 29/56
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hist Macpherson, Louisville
[Mar]ch 17, 1904

May 25 - 1904
same to above
1909 Oct. 8 Hist to [illegible]
[illegible] Rose V.L.M.

1911 Feby 8 Hist to Mrs
S.E.F. Rose

1915 Sept H. History to
Marie L. Gorin. [illegible]

19115 for 27 Hist to Ms. Addison
Y. Record.

1924 July 23 Marie P. Gorin given 1812 [illegible]
1931 Dec. 1. Hist to Henry J. Gorin
1933 May 11 - Hist to Ms. C. G Young - MLB
(Rec [illegible] in [illegible] W 2182, Williams (Skaggs)


[right side of page]
Revy WIDOW, &c.

File No. 25643
Elizabeth Gorin
Widow of
John Gorin
Sergt Rev. War

Act: Feb. 3 " 1853
Index: - Vol. A, Page 2,82,

[Arrangement of 1870.]

Sec B.L. 65448-120-55
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Hist to Ernest Macpherson, Louisville
Ky - March 17, 1904

May 25 - 1904
same to above
1909 Oct. 8 Hist to [illegible]
[illegible] Rose V.L.M.

1911 Feby 8 Hist to Mrs
S.E.F. Rose

1915 Sept H. History to
Marie L. Gorin. [illegible]

19115 for 27 Hist to Ms. Addison
Y. Record.

1924 July 23 Marie P. Gorin given 1812 [illegible]
1931 Dec. 1. Hist to Henry J. Gorin
1933 May 11 - Hist to Ms. C. G Young - MLB
(Rec [illegible] in [illegible] W 2182, Williams (Skaggs)
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Chgd. Adj. C.C.

July 15/36

(-R 103)
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Jackson, Tenn.
May 12th 1904.

To Hon. Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.

[Stamp affixed on letter with the following]
DEPT WAR & NAVY
MAY 17 1804
FILES

Sir--

John Gorin was a soldier in the Revolutionary War.  And as such drew a pension as I am informed the records of your office show.

He enlisted at Fairfax in Va. and served in various
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capacities.  He applied for a pension September 28, 1832 being then a resident of Barren Co. Ky.

Will you kindly have sent to me a certificate of the record and service as a Revolutionary War soldier? and greatly oblige.

Yours respectfully--
Mrs Anne Murray--
916 North Royal Street.
Jackson, Tennessee

Postage for reply enclosed

[rubber stamp affixed in lower right hand of letter with the following]

U.S. PENSION OFFICE
A
MAY 14 1904
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September 2 - 1930
Dept of Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington D.C.

[rubber stamp:]
PENSION
X
SEP 
4
1930
OFFICE
U.S.

Dear Sir: -
Do you have the Revolutionary
war service and family named of
John Gorin, of Fairfax Co, Va, and
his two sons, John Gorin, 1763 - 1837
born in Fairfax Co Va, died in Barren Co Ky
and Henry Gorin, 1768 - 1830 born in
Fairfax Co Va died in Todd Co Ky.
John's (son) wife was Betsy Franklin
and Henry's wife was Sarah Peel.
Please give me any thing you
may have regarding their services

Yours truly
(Miss) Marion Wood
549 West North St
Decatur Illinois
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in your letter of the 10th [illegible] I enclose
the vouchers upon which the last payment
was made to John Gorin, Kentucky rolls
Oct. 1832. "The papers recently filed by his
widow, Elizabeth Gorin, in support of a
claim for the arrears alleged to be due at
his death", were returned to Messers Miller
 + Brown, on the 13 Nov.r 1855, through whom
the widow made her application, + have not
again been forwarded to this office.
I return the original papers upon
which John Gorin was inscribed on the Pension
rolls.

Very Respectfully
Your ob.t serv.t

Rob J Swinson
auditor

J. Minot Esq.r
Comm.r of Pensions}
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State of Kentucky )
County of Barren  )  SS

I James Murrell a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid do hereby certify that John Gibson, who on the 28th September 1832, appeared before me to make affidavit of the service of John Gorin in the War of the Revolution, is a credible person & his statement entitled to credit.  In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand this 27th March 1833
Jos. Murrell J.P.B.C.

State of Kentucky County of Barren SCC

I William Logan Clerk of the County Court for the County aforesaid do hereby certify that the abovenamed James Murrell is a magistrate as above, and that the foregoing certificate purporting to be his is genuine.  In testimony whereof, I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name this 5th day of March 1833.

W Logan Clk.
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Elizabeth Gorin,
Widow of John Gorin
Barren Co Kentucky
Admitted Act Feby 3, 1833
at rate of $30.88 c per
annum, commencing
as date of said act
//
Husband, private, corporal,
and Light Infantry
//
Pay widow
//
Certificate to
Miller & Brown
Washington, D.C.
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State of Kentucky  Barren County SoC

This day personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the Peace for the County of Barren, John Gibson and made oath that he has a personal knowledge of John Gorin of serving in the was of the Revolution in the year 1777 a term of three months, that Sd Gorin started from Fairfax County in Virginia, & joined the Regular Army on the retreat from Germantown, & served in Genl Scotts Brigade.  Affiant has also a personal knowledge of Sd Gorin's assisting to Dislodge the Hessians at Schuyvile Bridge.  Given under my hand this 28th Septr 1832

Jas. Murrell JPBC

State of Kentucky Barren County Sct

I William Logan Clerk of the County Court for the County aforesaid do certify that the above named James Murrell Esq before whom it is certified that the affidavid of John Gibson was taken is and was at the time of signing the same a Justice of the Peace in and for said County of Barren that full faith and credit is and ought to be given all his Judicial acts as such and that his signature above is genuine.

In Testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and Affixed the seal of said Court at my office in Glasgow the 28th day of September 1832

Wm Morgan clerk

11 oclock
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A. Letter
_________________________

Elizabeth Gorin

Triplett

Miller & Brown
_____  _______
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Pension Office June 28th 56

Hon. J. Minot

Case of Pensions

Dr Sir,
We are instructed in the case of Elizabeth Gorin of Ky. who is an applicant for a Revolutionary pension under act of Febu 9th/53, which application has been suspended for explanation relative to the date of her husbands death.  It would seem that the widow drew (according to the account of this office) some three or four months pension more than was due her.  Some weeks ago this Office requested an explanation of the matter and that the money which was overpaid must be refunded to the [illegible] or be deducted from the widow's pension certificate.  We will now say that it is the desire [underlined] of the widow to have it deducted from her certificate.  We saw her atty in person on the 26th of this month and hadn't the time to instruct us in writing.  We trust this will be deemed sufficient explanation in this case.

We would desire that the case be acted on immediately in accordance with instructions first given.  We are yours

Miller and Brown