Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W 4994, Frederick Horn, Penn
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Penn   Horn, Frederick    H4994
           [Horn] Mary
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Ohio  4772                                                           | Paid at the Treasury under the Act
Mary Horn                                                            | of the 4 April 1838 from 4 March to 
widow of Frederick Horn died                              | 4 Sept 1840. Agent Notified 4 June 
Penn                                                                      | 1841
and who died in October 1824
of Pickaway Co. in the State of Ohio
who was a Private in the Compy commanded
by Captain ~~~~ of the Regt. commanded
by Col. Hazen in the P.a.
line for 8 months

Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio
at the rate of 20 Dollars 67 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.

Certificate of Pension issued the 13th day of Dec.
1839 and sent G.W.
Doan Circleville Ohio

Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1839  $93.34
Semiannual allownace ending 4 M[illegible] 13.33
$106.67
{Act July 7, 1838}
Recorded by [illegible] Addison Clerk,
Book A  Vol.20. Page 217
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The State of Ohio Hocking County ss
I Charle fors W James clerk of the Court of common Pleas within and for
said County do hereby certify that Kelion H Dunkle before whom the
within acknowledgement was taken was the ^ [at] time of taking such acknowledgement an acting Justice of the Peace within and for said County duly commissioned and sword and that to all his acts as such full facts and credit are due and ought to be given throughout the United States and elsewhere.

[Seal] In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hands
 and official seal at Logan in said County this
15th day of May AD 1839 

C.W. James Clk. H.C.P.

[handwritten on lower right corner of page]
Mary Horn
of Frederick
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State of Ohio - Pickaway County ss

On this twenty ninth day of April in the year 
of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and 
thirty nine personally appeared before the court 
of Common Pleas of the County of Pickaway 
Mary Horn a resident of the State of Ohio in 
the county of Fairfield aged seventy five years 
on the thirteenth day of July 1838 who being 
first duly Sworn according to law doth 
on her oath make the following 
declaration in order to attain the benefit of the 
provision made by the Act of Congress passed 
July 7th 1838 entitled "An act granting 
half pay and pensions to certain widows"
That she is the widow of Frederick Horn
who was a private in the Army of the 
Revolution and enlisted during the War and 
served eight months in General Norens 
regiment That he entered the service under said 
enlistment an or about the 19th day of October
in the year of our Lord 1782 and the he was
honorably discharged from said service on
the nineteenth day of June 1783 as is 
evidenced by a regular discharge under the hand 
of General Washington accompanying this 
declaration that at the time of his aforesaid 
enlistment he resided in Berks County in the 
State of Pennsylvania that she does not 
now recollect what battles he was engaged in, nor 
through what part of the country he was marched 
though she knows he marched off and was discharged
away form home that he died in Fairfield 
County in the State of Ohio in the middle of 
October in the year of our Lord 1824 and that 
She has no documentary evidence Ather than the 
aforesaid discharge in support of her claim 
to a pension under said act. She further declares
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that she was married to the said Frederick Horn in the spring of the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety three the day and [illegible] of the year must now [illegible] that the [illegible] not married to the said Frederick from Junior to his leaving the service, but the [illegible] took place previous to the first day of January seventeen hundred and ninety four [illegible] at the time above stated. 
Mary Horn
his mark
Sworn to and subscribed on this 29th day of April and [illegible] above written in open court the words "was" and "October" being intended in the 31st and 36th lines  from the top of the first page + an erasure inside in the said 36th line before signing this declaration. 
Wm P Darst
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State of Ohio
Hocking County

On this first day of May 1839 personally came before me John Daum who is personally known to me as a man of credibility, who being by me duly sworn deposeth and saith: That he was present at the marriage of the aforesaid Mary Horn with the said Frederick Horn; that as near as he can now recollect, the said marriage took place in the spring of seventeen hundred and ninety three in the county of Beaver and State of Pennsylvania - that he does not now recollect the name of the person who joined them in marriage (this deponent being then a youth of 14 or 15 years old) that there was no record kept of note marriage at the time and that he this deponent being a brother of the said Mary Horn is positively sure that no family record whatever was kept of the aforesaid marriage and he verily believes that there was no foreign bounty on parish record kept of such marriage and further that she the said Mary Horn was never married to any other husband than the said Frederick Horn and that the said Frederick Horn died as this deponent verily believes according to the best of his recollection in the month of October in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and twenty four [illegible] further saith not
John Daum
[handwritten](seal)

sworn to and subscribed before me an acting Justice of the Peace, in and for said county of Hocking the day and year first herein aforesaid

Kelion H Dunkle
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[all in German]
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[end of previous file. All in German]
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The following is a literal translation of the family record hereto attached of the family of Frederick Horn the husband of Mary Horn who was a soldier in the army of the revolution & died loving Mary Horn his [illegible] & widow -
this part left of the record { of my birth [illegible] my father by the name Stan Horn, born my mother was Christina Hammer, born and I am also born of the Lord 1760 the 7th day of Sept, and was baptized September the 13th 1760. My godfathers were Ludewig George Frederick Weber and his wife. I was baptized according to the Evangelical Lutheran religion and received the name Ludewig George Frederick Horn. I was confirmed in the year of our Lord 1775 March 13th - I remained in Germany until I was 16 years of age and went hereafter among the Military to America. I landed near Quebec in the year of our Lord 1776 on August the 6th - Afterwards I was taken prisoner at Saratoga; this happened in 1777 on October the 17th. I was taken as a prisoner to Boston, from thence to Virginia; from thence to Pennsylvania, & I remained in my captivity 5 years & 6 months. Hereafter I served congress 8 months and was discharged January 19th 1783. Then I got married in the year of our Lord 1783 on April 22nd to Anna Maria Laum. Her father was named Johan George Laum & her mother Maria Catherine Strassen rending in Albany township Berks County in the State of Pennsylvania [illegible]
------
State of Ohio - Pickaway County [illegible]
Personally came before me; this eleventh day of October 1839, Jacob Shoemaker, who is well known to me as a person of credibility, who being duly sworn deposeth and saith; that he was well acquainted with Frederick Horn and with his handwriting & that the Instrument hereto attached, purporting to be a family record & written in the German language (of which the above so far as it ever, is a true translation) is in the handwriting of the said Frederick Horn.
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& that he first became acquainted with the name Frederick Horn and his wife Anna Maria, sometimes called Mary, who is the present widow of the said Frederick Horn, in the year of our Lord 1805 - that their oldest child was then about 21 or 22 years old; that lived & cohabitated together as man & wife & were always considered and reputed as such, until the death of the said Frederick Horn in 1824 & that before he became acquainted with the said Frederick & Anna Maria called Mary Horn they had several children that from the age of the oldest child when he first became acquainted with the said Frederick Horn and his wife, now the applicant for a pension, he is confident, their marriage were to have taken place, as early as the year 1783 or 1784. His deponent further states, that he is familiar with the German language & believes the translation, on the opposite page, of said family record, to express the true meaning of the original German record; except the words "19 January" may from their appearance, in the original, have been intended for "19 June" - this deponent who states, it was often the case, that those born & baptized in Germany, had three or four baptismal names given them, of which one only would be retained, when they removed to this country & the said Anna Maria named in the said record, is the same identical person, now applying for a pension, by the name of Mary Horn; Maria in German, being the name as Mary in English - that from what he knew of the history of the said Frederick Horn, he has no doubt, that the German document hereto attached, is the true family record of the said Frederick Horn; therein hearing the name of Ludewig George Frederick Horn & further saith not
Jacob Shoemaker
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 11th day of October 1889 - 
Geo C Gephart
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State of Ohio
Pickaway County 
Personally came before me, this  
Fourteenth day of September 1839, Samuel Lybrand,
who is well known to me, as a person of credibility, who being duly sworn, deposeth & saith, that the Instrument of writing hereto attached purporting to be the family record of L.G. Frederick Horn is the hand writing of Fredrick Horn with whose hand-writing this deponent is well acquainted & that he verily believes the said Instrument of writing the genuine family record of the said Frederick Horn now deceased & that the English translation of the said Instrument writing, on the first page of this sheet, is a true & correct translation of said Instrument of writing as it supports to be ^ so far as it goes this deponent being acquainted with both the German & English languages, sufficiently, to decide upon the correctness of the aforesaid translations & further saith not. 
Samuel Lybrand
I do testify the interlining between the 12th and 13th lines was made previous [illegible] Sooy Smith J.P. 
Sworn to and subscribed before me, a Justice of the peace in and for said county the day & year above named
Sooy Smith J.P.
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State of Ohio
Pickaway County I William P Darst of the court of common pleas of Pickaway County, Ohio certify that George C Gephart and Sooy Smith are both justices of the peace in and for said county and were such at this date of their respective certificates as herein stated and that the foregoing certificates & signatures purporting to be theirs are [illegible]. In testimony as hereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name this 12th day of October in the year of our Lord 1839. 
Wm P Darst
Hillman B Hannum his Deputy
Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas
of Pickaway County
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October 24, 1939.


Mrs. Thomas R. Jones   BA-J/ILL
2320 Clermont Street   Frederick Horn 
Denver, Colorado.         W. 4994 


Dear Madam: 

The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, W. 4994, based upon service of Frederick Horn in the Revolutionary War. 

Frederick Horn (as he was called in English) was born September 7, 1760 in Germany, and was baptized September 13, Ludwig George Frederick Horn;  his godparents were George Frederick Weber and his wife. The following is shown regarding Frederick's parents- "my father by the name of ----stian Horn (part of record lost)---- and my mother was Christian Hammen"(Harmsen.   Frederick Horn left Germany and landed in America August 16, 1776, near Quebec.

 Frederick Horn was taken prisoner at Saratoga, October 17, 1777, date of enlistment and names of officers not given, was carried first to Boston, thence to Virginia, and later to Pennsylvania, and at the end of his captivity, enlisted, served eight months as private in General Hazen's Regiment, from which he was discharged June 19, 1783. 

He resided after his service in Berks County, Pennsylvania, and moved later to Ohio. He died in October 1824 in Fairfield County, Ohio. 

Frederick Horn married April 22, 1783 in Berks County, Pennsylvania, Anna Maris (Marry) Trum or Drum, the name shown both ways. Her parents Johan George Trum or Drum and Maria Catrina Strassen, residents of Albany Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania. 

Mary Horn, the widow of Frederick Horn, was allowed pension on account of his service in the Revolutionary War on her application
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executed  April 29, 1839. She was born July 13, 1763.   In 1839, she resided in Fairfield County, Ohio.

     Reference was made to children of Frederick Horn and his wife, Mary, but their names were not given; their oldest child was aged twenty or twenty-one years in 1805.

     In 1839, the widow's brother John, stated before a Justice of the Peace in Hooking County, Ohio, that he was present at the marriage of his sister and Frederick Horn.   This brother signed his name John Drum.

     In 1839, Jacob Shoemaker made affidavit in Pickaway County, Ohio, in behalf of the soldier's widow, Mary Horn; he stated that he had been acquainted with their family since 1805, no relationship shown. He was called Judge Shoemaker.

     In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid and, possibly, the date death of this pensioner, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, this city, and furnish the following data:

                                                                      Mary Horn, widow of Frederick Horn,
                                                                      Certificate #4712
                                                                      Issued December 13, 1839
                                                                      Rate $26.67 per annum
                                                                      Commenced March 4, 1836
                                                                      Act of July 7, 1838
                                                                      Ohio Agency.

                                                                                 Very truly yours,




                                                                                                A. D. HILLER,
                                                                              Executive Assistant
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1939 - Oct. 24 - Hist. to Mrs. Thomas R. Jones - SLL.

[illegible] WIDOW, &c.
File No. 4994
Mary Horn
Wid.
Frederick Horn
Pvt. Pa. line
Act: July 1738
Index:-Vol. A, Page 342
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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Mary Horn
Ohio
Suspended
See let 31st August
1839 G W Doan
Act 7 July 1838.
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5525
Mary Horn
Ohio
admitted
Pr. 8 months 26.66/100
Cap - Col Hagen
died Oct. 1824
Act 7 July 1838
G W Doan
Circleville 
Ohio
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I find that I have no certificate for this [illegible]
July 23 [illegible]
Frederick Horn
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I find that I have no certificate for this [illegible]
July 25
Horn, Frederick
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Quarters, June 1783.
The within Certificate shall not avail the [illegible] as a discharge of the [illegible] Treat of Peace; previous which Time, and until Production thereof shall be made [illegible] considered as being on Furlough. 
George Washington
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By His Excellency
George Washington, Esq;
General and Commander in Chief the Forces of the
United States of America

These are to certify that the Bearer hereof Frederick Horn, [illegible] of the United States of America in [crossed out] the General Harow Regiment, having faithfully served the United States eight months and being unlisted for the War only, hereby discharged from the American Army.

Given at Headquarters the 19th of June 1783.
[signature] Washington

By His Excellency's Command,
I Trumbull 

Registered in the of the Regiment,
Benjamin Moors  Adjutant
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War Department
Pension Office
September 2, 1839

Sir, 
The papers in the case of Mrs. Mary Horn widow of Frederick Horn deceased, have been examined and filed with suspended cases. The proof of the period of the marriage is not sufficient. The witness was young at the time. His testimony as to the precise period of the marriage, cannot therefore be admitted. If there be no public record of the marriage or a family record thereof or of the births of the children, the testimony of other witnesses should be exhibited who can swear positively to the period of the marriage, and who should state the circumstances from which they are enabled to fix the record.

I am, Very Respectfully yr mo. obt. St.
[your obedient servant]
J L Edwards

G W Doan Esq
Circleville Ohio
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Treasury Department,
Second Comptroller's Office,
May 28th, 1841.

Sir: 
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," [handwritten] Mary Horn - a Pensioner on the Roll of the Ohio - Agency, at the rate of [handwritten] Twenty Six Dollars and [handwritten] 64 Cents per annum, under the law of the [handwritten] 7th July 1838, has been paid at this Department, from the [handwritten] 4th of March, to the 4th of Sept. 1840. 
Respectfully yours,
[signature] Albion K Parris
Comptroller

To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.
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[stamp] June [illegible]
[stamp] FREE

Hon. Joel R Poinsett
Secetary of War
Washington City
Dist. of Columbia
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5525
Pension Office
[illegible]
Ohio
7 July 38
Mary Horn
wid. of Frederick
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Circleville 1st June 1839

Enclosed, I send the papers of widow Mary Horn, to obtain a pension, under the act of 7th July 1838. If allowed, she wishes the certificate forwarded to me, at Circleville, Pickaway County, Ohio. If there is any defect in the evidence of marriage, please inform us what it is so [illegible] we will endeavor to supply it. There is no record evidence of the fact & we do not [underlined] now know where we can obtain another witness, who was present at the wedding. Abundant evidence can be found, of their  cohabitation as man and wife, for many years, prior to the death of Frederick Horn; if required. That is probably, all the cumulative testimony, within reach of the applicant, who is now quite infirm.
A speedy answer is required to her application. 

Hon. Joel A Poinsett
Secretary at War 

Respectfully yours [illegible]
G. W. Doan
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Oct. 19 19.   139
add. proof
Mrs. Mary Horn
Ohio

FREE
J.L. Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
War Department
Washington city
Dist Columbia
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Circleville 12th October 1839
Sir, Herewith, I send you further evidence, as to the marriage of Mary Horn with Frederick Horn, which by your note of September 2nd was required.
The two witnesses testifying, as to the family record in German, herewith enclosed; are men of the first respectability, having both been associate Judges of open court of Common Pleas, for several years. The widow applying for a pension, is very frail & can speak no English & her brother, whose affidavit as to the marriage you have, is a very ignorant German and must have been mistaken as to the date of the marriage.
I have no doubt, the German record states the true date of the marriage, which is corroborated by the affidavit of Judge Shoemaker, as to the age of their oldest child. Other evidence might be obtained, as to the age of the oldest child; when Horn removed to this county & alas as to the deed papers, purporting to be a family record, being in said Horn's own proper hand-writing. I did not suppose, this however was necessary; as I presume the department will be satisfied, with the evidence on those points, herewith forwarded.
The variation of christian names, between the pension Record + the papers heretofore sent on, is accounted for, in the affidavit of Judge Shoemaker. In the widow's first application to me, to prepare his papers, she gave me her name, as Anna Maria Horn, but her brother having some knowledge of English, called her story in his affidavit ^ then when I was not present, & I drew his declaration afterwards, compounding with the name he had used in his affidavit. Mary being the English of "Maria", I presume she has that name, with those members of the family, who had learned to speak English. I cannot account for this discrepancy in any other way. That all is fair & honest in his affidavit, as well as the record & all mean the same persons, I have not the last doubt.
Yours t. [truly] E.W. Doan
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N.B. Please direct to me, any communication respecting this application, at Circleville Ohio - the old woman, is very anxious to know soon, the fate of her application.

I J L Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
G W Doan
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Mrs. Thomas R. Jones
2320 Clermont Street
Denver, Colorado

August 1, 1939.

Mr. A. D. Hillier,
Veterans Administration,
Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Hillier:

                          Many thanks for your letter of July 18th, with suggestion, regarding Frederick Horn (S. 2321.)

                          The reason I was anxious to know if the wife Catherine applied for a widow's pension was to determine whether she was the first or second wife.   If she filed a claim, the dateof her marriage which presumably would have been given would have told me whether she was the mother of the children.

                          This Frederick Horn left a will, in which he names wife Catherine and six children, the first named being John S. Horne.   While he signs his own name HORN, he writes the names of his three sons and unmarried daughter- HORNE.

                          The name of my grandmother is known to be John Horne, and I have excellent reasons for believing he was this John Horne mentioned in the will of Frederick Horn.

                          John S. Horne lived at Xenia, 1827-1841.   The Greene County History gives his birth date-August 14, 1780.   I feel certain that this was the same John Horne and my grandmother's father.   In his will he does not mention my grandmother nor his sister(his first family).   He does mention wife Sarah and her family, one son named being Daniel H. Horne.   My grandmother had a brother of this name whom I once called upon in Chicago, many years ago--her half-brother.

                          This all fits together.   But there is a fly in the ointment.   My brother and cousin feel positive that they were told in their youth that our grandmother's FATHER was a Revolutionary soldier.   I think they were mistaken, and that it was her grandfather, who, according to my deductions, was Frederick Horn.   This Horn grandfather, whoever he was, lived in Cincinnati and told stories of the
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war to his grandchildren.

          Would it be too much trouble to let me know if any John Horne living in Ohio, presumably Hamilton or Greene county, applied for a pension?

          If there was no John Horne who was a pensioner, I believe my family would be convinced that it was our grandmother's grandfather and not her father, who was a Revolutionary soldier.

          I make this explanation lest I seem to be over-solicitous about inconsequentials.

          Again thanking you, I am

                                      Sincerely yours,


[signature] Mrs. T. R. Jones


          If my grandmother's father was the soldier then my line falls to pieces. It would have to be another John Horne entirely.

          Since Frederick Horn mentioned no wife in his application, it is possible that he was a widower at that time and married later.   I get the impression that she may have been a second wife, as he emphasizes the fact that she may not sell anything--property, household good, ect;  she may have the use of them, but they are eventually to go to the six children.


[stamp] Received Aug 3 1939
Mail Sub-Div Reader No. 15 VETS ADM
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October 24, 1939.



Mrs. Thomas R. Jones                                                 BA-J/ILL
2320 Olermont Street                                                   Frederick Horn
Denver, Colorado.                                                         W. 4994
                                                                                      John Horn
                                                                                      B.L. Wt.#72961-120-55


Dear Madam:

                    Reference is made to your letter in regard to Frederick Horn, Revolutionary War pensioner, claim S. 2321, and in which you state that you desire information in regard to John, or John S. Horne who lived in Xenia, Ohio, 1827-1841, who was possibly, the son of the Frederick who lived in Ohio.

                    A further search of the Revolutionary War records of this office has been made and there is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service of any John Horn or Horne. The claim for pension has been found of another Frederick Horn who lived in Ohio at the time he received pension on account of his service in the Revolutionary War.   His record is furnished you herewith as found in pension claim, W. 4994.   The claim for bounty land has been found based upon service of a John Horn who served in the War of 1812; his record is furnished also.   It is hoped that these records may aid you in your research.

                                                     Very truly yours,


                                                     A.  A. HILLER
                                                     Executive Assistant
                                                     to the Administrator.