Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 13201, John Gregg, Continental N.H.
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(3-1776)
SERVICE|[blank]|NUMBER|
Continental|Gregg, John|S. 13201|
N.H. 
carded
CONTENTS
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14984 Utica 14984
New York
Jno Gregg Worcester in the State of N. York who was a Private in the Comp commanded by Captain Reynolds of the Reg. commanded by Col. Stark in the Cont* line for 8 ms 5 days - N.H. and Continental
Records corrected Febr. 14/06 SY
Inscribed on the Roll of N. York at the rate of 27 Dollars 22 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. 
Certificate of Pension issued the 21 day of July 1833 and sent to J. W. Jenkins Vernon
Arrears to the 4th of Ma '33 $54.64
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sep' " 13.61
$68.25
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Geo. C. Stiles Clerk,
Book E. Vol. 3. Page 57
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[verso]
John Gregg's application for a pensions
Let payments be made at the U.S. Br. Bank Utica N.Y. 
No. 14420
J. W. Jenkins, Vernon Oneida Co. N.Y. 
agent for applicant
On Rolls 5 mo 5 ds - 
adm'd 8 mo. 5 ds pri

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-davit & also to the said certificate to be his proper hand writing and signature
Witness my hand and seal of office this tenth day of June A.D. 1833. 
/s/Geo. Brown Clerk 
/s/Jos. P. Read D'y Clerk
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State of New York 
Madison County}ss
On this Eighth day of October in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and thirty two personally appeared before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Madison John Gregg a resident of the Town of Lenox County of Madison and State of New York aged seventy three years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his Oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832. 
That he enlisted in the army of the United States on or about the fifteenth day of November in the year seventeen hundred and seventy five and served in the Regiment commanded by Colonel John Stark of the New Hampshire line under the following named officers, to wit, Captain Daniel Reynolds Lieutenant Joseph Gregg Ensign Daniel Niltimore (Livermore). That he resided in the Town of Londonderry & State of New Hampshire at the time he entered the service; that he and the Company in which he enlisted went to what was then called Winter Hill near Boston Massachusetts and remained their till the first of March seventeen hundred and seventy six.
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and was absent & served under this enlistment ['and served' crossed out] between three and four months - That he again enlisted in the army of the United States in the month of August in the year seventeen hundred and seventy six with Captain Samuel McConnell and served in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Baldwin of the New Hampshire line ['of militia' crossed out] under the following named officers. to wit, Colonel Baldwin Lieutenant Colonel Hutchins and under Captain Samuel McConnell; That he resided in the settlement called Society Land in the county of Hillsbury (Hillsborough) State of New Hampshire; That he and the company in which he enlisted went to New York, that on their way there they met the enemy at New Rochelle had a short skirmish and were compelled to retreat, that from this they went to White Plains and on or about the twenty ninth day of October of that year had an engagement with the enemy at that place.
That they went from there to North Castle and continued there till about the first of December following when they were discharged; was absent under this enlistment between three and four months.
That he again enlisted in the army of the United States in the month of June in the year
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seventeen hundred and seventy seven, with Captain Peter Clark and served in the regiment commanded by Colonel Stickney of the New Hampshire line of militia: under the following named officers, to wit, Colonel Stickney Major Head first lieutenant Daniel Niltimore (Livermore) second lieutenant Benjamin Bradford and Captain Peter Clark, That he at the time of his last enlistment resided at the place called Society Land in the County of Hillsbury (Hillsborough) aforesaid, that he ['went' crossed out] and the Company in which he enlisted went to Bennington Vermont that they arrived their on the eleventh day of August and were engaged in the battle which took place on the sixteenth, That he with eleven others was in the morning of that day placed on the Hill back of Bennington to watch the movement of the enemy and remained there untill the termination of the first Battle* that they remained at Bennington and at different places on the North river till the fifteenth day of September of that year: That he was on that day duly discharged That he has no documentary evidence of his services under either of the above enlistments. But expects his name will be found on the proper record of the war Department. 
*which lasted about two hours. And in the second battle on the same day was engaged till its termination.
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He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any state.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid - /s/John Gregg
/s/A. S. Sloan Clk
And the said Court do declare their opinion that the above named Applicant was a revolutionary solder and served as he states
I Andrew S. Sloan clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Madison do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Gregg for a pension. 
[court seal affixed] In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this ninth day of October in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and thirty two
/s/A. S. Sloan Clk.
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State of New York
Oneida County ss On this 8th day of June in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and thirty three before me Nathan Kimball a judge of the court of Common Pleas of the said county of Oneida personally appeared John Gregg a resident of the town of Augusta in said county aged seventy four years who is to me known and who being by me first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following supplemental declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832. That he entered the service of the United States and served as he has stated in the foregoing declaration that he knows of no living witness who has personal knowledge of his said services as stated in the said declaration, whose testimony he can get - that he resides in the town of Augusta in Oneida County right adjoining the
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town of Lenox county of Madison where he resided when he made the foregoing declaration in October last 
/s/John Gregg
Sworn & subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me - 
/s/Nathan Kimball} Judge of Oneida common pleas
14420
John Gregg - Ex'd
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State of New York
Oneida County} ss. 
We David Dunham a clergyman residing in the town of Augusta and County of Oneida aforesaid, and William Smith a Justice of the peace of the town and county aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Mr. John Gregg who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration: that we believe him to be seventy four years of age: that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and taht we concur in that opinion. 
/s/David Dunham
/s/William Smith
Sworn and subscribed the 8th day of June A.D. 1833. before me 
/s/Nathan Kimball} Judge of Oneida common pleas
I Nathan Kimball a Judge of the court of common Pleas in and for the county of Oneida hereby certify that I am well acquainted with with John Gregg described in and who has made the preceding declaration before the Court of Common Pleas of Madison County and who has also made the foregoing supplemental declaration before me this day; that he is a man of good character and standing, and his statement entitled to credit; that he is generally reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier in the revolution and I fully concur in that opinion and believe he served as he has stated in his said declaration; And I further certify that I am acquainted with David Dunham who has signed the preceding certificate. that he is a clergyman of high standing and resides in the town of Augusta in said county; And that I am also acquainted with William Smith Esq who has also signed the foregoing certificate [illegible]
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and that the statement of the said Dunham and Smith is entitled to credit; and I further certify that the above named applicant John Gregg cannot from bodily infirmity attend a court of record to make the above supplemental declaration.
Dated at Augusta Oneida Co. NY June 8 A.D. 1833} 
/s/Nathan Kimball} Judge of Oneida common pleas
State of New York
Oneida County} ss. I George Brown Clerk of the said County do certify that Nathan Kimball before whom the within & foregoing supplemental declaration purports to have been made and sworn to; and also before whom the within and foregoing affidavit purports to have been  made and sworn to, by David Dunham & William Smith; and who has also signed the foregoing certificate, was, at the date of the same, a Judge of the court of Common Pleas in and for the said County. And that I am acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe his name subscribed to the said supplemental declaration, the said affidavit & also to the said certificate, to be his proper hand writing and signature.
[court seal affixed] Witness my hand and seal of office this tenth day of June A.D. 1833. 
/s/Geo. Brown Clerk
/s/Jos. P. Read D'y Clerk
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3-525
REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION
MMHF
S. 13201 
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS. 
Washington, D.C., May 16, 1923
In reply to your request of [blank], for the history of John Gregg, a soldier of the Revolutionary War, the following is taken from the soldier's claim for pension. 
[column headings: DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.|LENGTH OF SERVICE.|RANK.|OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.(CAPTAIN.|COLONEL.)|STATE.|]
Nov. 1775|Between 3&4 mos.|Private|(Daniel Reynolds|John Stark)|N.H.|
Aug. 1776|Between 3&4 mos.|[blank]|(Samuel McConnell|Baldwin)|[blank]|
June 1777 to|Sept. 15, 1777|[blank]|(Peter Clark|Stickney)|[blank]|
[end of columns]
Battles engaged in, New Rochelle, White Plains, Bennington
Residence of soldier at 1st enlistment, Londonderry, N.H.., 2" & 3" enl. Society Land, Hillsbury (Hillsborough) Co. N.H.
Date of application for pension, Oct. 8, 1832. His cl. was al.
Residence at date of application, Lenox, Madison Co., N.Y.
Age at date of application, 73 years.
Remarks: In 1833 living in Augusta, Oneida Co., N.Y. No family data on file
{Only John  Gregg of Londonderry etc. to this inquirer, Mrs. Blanche Dane}
Respectfully, 
[blank] Commissioner.
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
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14420
John Gregg
Madison Co. N. York
13.16
p. 400 
May 15 33 
J. W. Jenkins
Vernon/Oneida Co. N.Y. 
[margin note:  66+55=121]
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BRIEF in the case of John Gregg of Co of Madison in the State of N York
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? [blank]
3. How old is he? 73 years
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
[column headings: Period.|Duration of Service.(Years,|Months,|Days.)|Rank. As a|Names of Generals and Field Officers under whom he served.Gen.|]
15 Novr In 1775|([blank|3|[blank)|Private|Capt Reynolds Col. Stark|
con to 1776|(on Rolls|3|[blank])| " |Capt. McConnell Col. Baldwin|
June 1777|( " |['3'crossed out] 2 mo 5 ds)| " |Capt. Clark Col. Stickney|
[blank]|([blank]|8.|5)|[blank]|[blank]|
[end of columns]
5. In what battles was he engaged? White plains - Bennington
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? at Londonderry N. Hampshire
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? His own declaration
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? 
Papers not attach'd as requ'd
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned. 
/s/Richard Cutts
Examining Clerk.
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John Gregg
No. 14420
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Washington D.C.
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Gregg Madison Co N Yk which require further proof or explanation. 
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes 
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? [blank] 
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes 
V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes 
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the other under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes 
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes 
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes 
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? no I suppose the above interrogatory is not intended to be  [illegible] still, for the purpose of safety, I have procured the affidavits required
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? No 
see supplemental declaration in answer to this
XIV. +If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? [blank]
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? [blank]
Has teh proper office certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? [blank] 
XVI. ↕Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No
They are now, together with the additional proof attached as directed - 
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? [blank] 
EXPLANATORY NOTES. 
*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For ______year______months, and______days______, I served as a______; and for such service I claim a pension.”
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit. 
+QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of  his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
↕QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
⇨ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers. 
Sir, I herewith again send you the papers in the application of Mr. Gregg, with the objections, as I believe fully answered. You will please have payments made at Utica N.Y. and Oblige
Your Obt Servt
/s/J. Whipple Jenkins
Vernon N.Yk. June 10. 1883
J. L. Edwards Esq.
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[addressed envelope]
[margin note: Transfer these mili]
[postmark: VERNON NY AUG 5] 
Hon. J. L. Edwards
Com. of Pensions
Washington D.C. 
free
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[handwritten letter]
Vernon Oneida County N. Yk August. 5, 1883.
Dr Sir
Will you have the goodness to make John Gregg pension for $27.22 per annum the certificate for which bears date July 29, 1883. 
And George Bucks for $49.21 per annum the certificate for which bears date March 1. 1833. payable at the United States Branch Bank at Utica new York, instead of U.S. Br.Bank New York City - 
Gregg's certificate will be found recorded in Book E. Vol. 3. Page 87. by Geo. C. Stiles Clerk - 
Buck's recorded by G. Stiles Clerk in Book D. Vol. 5. page 60. - by making the above alteration you will save the pensioners above named considerable trouble in procuring the money upon their certificates, as they live in the immediate neighbourhood of Utica N.Y. - 
Very Respectfully
/s/J. Whipple Jenkins
Hon. J. L. Edwards
Com: of Pensions
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[handwritten letter]
107 So 5th St Marshall Minnesota
Apr 3 - 1923

Department of Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Wash. D. C. [margin note: Rev/w ✓ stamped envelope]

Will you please look up the war record of Joseph [margin note: negative] or John Gregg of Londonderry N.H. born Londonderry - 1763 - died Acworth 1840
Respectfully 
Mrs. Blanche G. Dane
Revolutionary War Record Please
[receipt stamp: U.S. PENSION OFFICE A APR 6 1923]
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[handwritten letter]
[receipt stamp: O.W. & N. DIVISION SEP 29 1899 RECEIVED.]
[monogram: GFN]
Pension Office
Dear Sir, 
I had an ancestor in the Revolutionary War by name of Capt. John Gregg who received a pension according to records of Gregg family. If you have official record of this pension (his death occurred in 1835) will you kindly send me a certificate copy which will enable me to
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[handwritten letter continued]
enter the D.A.R. without further research.
If there is any expense attached please notify me. 
Oblige, 
/s/Mrs. George F. Nye
728 Cedar Ave.
Niagara Falls, New York
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[verso]
Dec. 2 '99
Mrs. Geo F. Nye
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 
1923. May 16, Hist. to Mrs. Blanche G. Dane, MMHF.

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13201
Rev War INVALID.
File No. 13, 201
John Gregg Priv. Rev. War
Act: June 7" 1832
Index: - Vol. 1, Page 153
[Arrangement of 1870.]