Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 20,699, John Beagle, New York
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(3 - 1776)
SERVICE
New York

Beagle, John
or
Beedle
Winche
NUMBER
of
W. 20, 699
CONTENTS
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Notification sent Nov. 15th 1820 to John Swart
Schoharie C.H. 
N YK

2560
New York Roll

John Beagle
Private
New York line - 9 months
In the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War.

Inscribed on the Roll of New York
at the rate of eight Dollars per month, to commence on
the 27 of April 1818.

Certificate of Pension issued the 24 of Sep 1819
and forwarded to Hermanus
Bouck Esqr Schoharie NYK

Arrears to 4th of Sep. 1818
$34.13
Semi-anl. all'ce ending 4 Mar. 1819 48.00
Arrs 4 Mos. 8 ds  $82.13
6 Nov. 29

Revolutionary claim,
Act 18th March, 1818.}

Van Schaick
Continued
Schoharie, Schoharie
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N. YK
John Beagle's Case - hr
27 Apl 1818

To Hermarnus Bouck
Schoharie

Admitted
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State of New York. 
Schoharie County Ss: 
On the twenty seventh day of April, 1818 before me, the subscriber, one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Schoharie aforesaid, personally appears John Beagle, aged seventy two years, seven months, and eight days, resident in the Town of Schoharie, in the County and State aforesaid, who being by me firstly sworn according to law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war,” that the said John Beagle enlisted, at a place then called the New City, (now Lansingburgh) about ten miles above  the city of Albany on the North River, in the State of New York aforesaid, in the early part of the war for the term of Nine months and served in the company [crossed out commanded] under the command of Captain Leonard Bleecker, of the Regiment, in which one Tillman of said New City was the Major; that the name of the Colonel commanding the Regiment, the deponent does not recollect; that his said enlistment was for nine months, and his service was under General Montgomery’s command, in the expedition against Quebec; but the deponent went no further than to Montreal; in which march he was at the battle, siege and taking of St John. That from Montreal he [crossed out returned and] was detached from the main army to do service with others of the detachment, on the Lake Champlain and North River, where the time of his said enlistment expired.
That immediately the said John Beagle came to Schenectady, and enlisted into a Corps called the Schenectady Rangers, commanded by Capt. John Bradt, and continued therein, for some three or four Months, when he again enlisted into the Company commanded by Captain Leonard Bleecker, at Schenectady aforesaid in the then Regiment commanded by Colonel Peter Gansevoort, for during the war, and continued in said Regiment until, by a different organization, the said Regiment became incorporated with another commanded by Colonel Goshen Van Schaick, under which last mentioned Colonel he continued to serve, in the said United States
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States Service, until Peace concluded, when he was discharged at a place called Snake Hill in the Town of New Burgh in the County of Orange, in the State of New York aforesaid, in the year 1783.
That he was in the following Battles; viz: in the seige and taking of St John before mentioned; in the twenty-one days seige of Fort Stanwix, on the Mohawk River at the battle at Trenton, in New Jersey, and at the taking of Cornwallis. And that he is in reduced circumstances (being now afflicted with a Breach) and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support; and that he has no other evidence now in his power of his said services than the affidavit of Rebeccah Collins herewith accompanying.
[signed] John Beagle 
Sworn to and declared before me the day and year aforesaid 

[signed] Herms. Bouck

I Hermanus Bouck, one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Schoharie aforesaid, do Certify, that it appears to my satisfaction that the said John Beagle did serve in the Revolutionary War, as stated in the preceding declaration against the common enemy and I now transmit the proceedings and testimony taken and had before me to the Secretary for the Departhment of war, pursuant to the directions of the beforementioned act of Congress 

[signed] Herms. Bouck 
April 27, 1818.

I do Certify, that the above named Hermanus Bouck Esq. is one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Schoharie in the State of New York, as appears by the Commission of the Peace now on file in the Clerk’s Office of the said county; and also by his oath of office, also [illegible] in said office, and that the aforegoing signatures of the said Judge are in his own proper handwriting.
As witness my hand and the Seal of the said Office this 27th April, 1818.

[signed] W. W. Enders Clk
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State of New York 
Schoharie County ss: Rebeccah Collins, of lawful age, being duly sworn, maketh oath and saith, that she, the deponent, about the commencement of the revolutionary war, was married to James Collins who enlisted into the United States service for during the war; that her said husband is now deceased. 
That during her said husband's service she, the deponent, accompanied her said husband.
That John Beagle was a private soldier in the same company with her said husband during the time of her said husbands service and that she was present when her said husband, and also the said John Beagle, after the Peace concluded with Great Britain, were discharged at a place called Snake Hill, in Orange County in the State of New York, and that the Company in which they served was commanded by Captain Leonard Bleecker in the regiment firstly commanded by Colonel Gansevoort, & afterwards by Colonel Van Schaick.
That she is sure that the said John Beagle served as aforesaid at least for three years; but how long exactly he she cannot say; yet always understood at the time, and since, that he was enlisted for during the war. And further saith not.
Rebeccah Collins her [handwritten] X mark
Sworn May 8th 1818. before me Herms. Bouck One of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County Schoharie State of New York
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State of New York, Schoharie County ss. I certify that the within named John Beagle is a man in indigent circumstances as applied to his poverty - Dated 24. August 1818. 
Herm. Bouck Admitted Judge of the Schoharie Com. pleas 

[At right angles to the remainder of the text:]
N.Yk
John Beagle’s Case hr.
27 Aprl 1818
To Hermannus Bouck
Schoharie

Admitted
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John Beagle

Con

2560
March
1879

John Swart
Schoharie C.H.
NeYK
Nov. 15th 1820
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At a Court of Common pleas held in and for the County of Schoharie in the State of New York on the Seventh day of June one thousand Eight hundred and twenty, at the Court House in the town of Schoharie 
Present 
William Beekman first Judge 
Hermanus Bouck 
Isaac Hall Tiffany 
Henry Schafer }Judges 
Personally appeared in open Court, being a Court of Record for the said County of Schoharie, John Beagle, aged seventy four years resident in the town and County of Schoharie, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath declare, that he served in the revolutionary war as follows, that he enlisted at Schenectady in Captain Leonard Bleekers company of infantry commanded by Col. Gansevoort in the New York line in the fall of the year 1775 and continued to serve in the same regiment until he was transferred to the regiment commanded by Col. Van Schaick in which Regiment he served during the remainder of the war, and at the conclusion of the peace was honorably discharged at Snake Hill near New Burgh in the State of New York. That he made an application for a pension under the act of congress of the 18th March 1818, on the 27 April 1818 and received a pension certificate numbered 2.560, and I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18th March 1818, and an actual resident of the town and County of Schoharie aforesaid, and that I have not since that time by gift sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of congress entitled, "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States, in the revolutionary War,”passed on the 18th day of March 1818, and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me, nor have I any income
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other than what is contained in the Schedule hereunto annexed and by me subscribe. Viz. Eight Dollars in Cash $8.00 which I have left of the pension money I have drawn on the certificate I now hold. I have no other property [crossed out besides] except my cloathing. That I used to follow weaving in my younger days, but have no other trade [crossed out or] occupation or profession. That I am at present unable to weave from the infirmities incident to old age. that I am able to do some little light work about the farm but not sufficient to pay for my board and cloathing. That I have a wife by the name of Lavintyea aged fifty seven years, who lives with her Brother James Van Ardall in the town of Fishkill in the County of Dutchess State of New York, and is able I believe to provide for herself, that I reside with Moses Beagle my son in the Town of Schoharie aforesaid who is a man of small property, that the reason of my living seperate from my wife is, that we are unable to keep house and support ourselves and that therefore she went and lived upon the Charity and hospitality of her Brother and I upon that of my son 

[signed] John Beagle his [handwritten] X mark

Sworn in open Court 7th June 1820 before me John Swart, Clerk 

I John Swart Clerk of the Court of Common pleas of the County of Schoharie and State of New York, do hereby certify that the foregoing oath, and the schedule thereto annexed are truly coppied [copied] from the record of the said Court; And I do further Certify that it is the opinion of the said Court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid Schedule is Ten Dollars. I [In] testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court this 5th day of September 1820. 
John Swart, Clerk
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1904.
New York Albany

Winche Beedle
N.Y.
widow of John Beedle
who was a Corporal
in the N.Y. line
for 2 years

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of
88 Dollars --- Cents per annum, to commence on
the 4th day of March, 1843.

Certificate of Pension issued the
the 8th day of Sept. 1843.
to
Wm B. Pierce
Albany
N.Y.

[Act of March 3, 1843
Recorded in Book A
Vol. B Page 101.

Seth E. Holliday Sept. 4. 1844
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Declaration 
Act of July 7. 1838

State of New York
Schoharie County} ss
On this Seventeenth day of May 1842 personally appeared before me Harvey Watson Judge of Schoharie County Courts in said State Winch Beedle a resident of the town of  Schoharie in the County of Schoharie and said State of New York aged Seventy four years, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7th 1838 entitled “An act granting half pay and Pensions to certain Widows” That she is the Widow of John Beedle who was a Continental Soldier during the War of the Revolution, belonging to the New York line, and that in consequence of his services therein he received a Pension from the United States of Ninety Six dollars per Annum, which he continued to receive until the day of his death. That as this declarant was not married to said John Beedle until after the War of the Revolution, she is unable to give any specific amount of his said Revolutionary services. Although she well rembers [remembers] hearing him relate many particulars thereof both before and after the receipt of his said pension, such as that in one battle the strap of his Cartridge-box was shot off, and that on one occasion the feather of his cap was shot off, and that at one
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time he was engaged in the defence of a Fort which was besieged by the enemy for about three weeks and the garrison became much in want of provisions. And that he served in the New York Line of Continental Troops, she thinks seven years She has also heard him speak of serving under or with Captain Leonard Bleecker, and Colonel Van Schaick, and she also remembers hearing him name many other officers connected with the service, but of whose names, and the stations they respectively filled she cannot now speak with certainty And this declarant further states that her maiden name was Van Nosdoll; that she was married to the said John Beedle on the 18th or 19th day of September 1785 at Fishkill Plains in the State of New York in the presence of her Grandfather John Vermiliar and her Grandmother Fanny Vermiliar, by a Justice of the Peace whose name she is unable to remember; that she has no record of her said marriage, and does not believe that a record thereof anywhere exists; that her husband the said John Beedle died in the town of Schoharie aforesaid on friday next succeeding the wednesday on which on which the general State Election closed for said State of New York in November 1829. That now she cannot recollect on what day of November said Friday occurred, she remembers that the last day of said Election, the polls were
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opened at the Village of Schoharie Court house and that the electors were in attendance at said poll when her said husband was seized with his last illness which terminated in death on the friday following. That she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first of January 1794 to wit, at the time above stated. That she was never married to any other man than to the said John Beedle, and since such marriage has been the mother of ten children by him - Seven of whom are still living: The first, William Beedle was baptised at Hoosich Road about five miles from Troy sometime in the summer of 1786; that her two next children Moses and Mary were likewise baptised at the same place in the year 1788 and 1790; that her next three children, Catherine Phebe and Sally were baptised at Schoharie in this county in the years 1793, 1795 & 1798. that there is no one now living who was present at her marriage although it is well known that she and the said John Beedle lived together as husband and wife for many years previous to 1794 

Winche Beedle her [handwritten] X mark 

Subscribed and sworn the day and year aforesaid before me & I certify that owing to old age and bodily infirmity, it would be inconvenient for the declarant to attend upon Court. And that she states that she never learned to write 

[signed] Harvey Watson Judge of Schoharie County Courts
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I certify that I have had very little personal acquaint[ance] with the within named declarant Winche Beedle, but from diligent enquiry of her neighbors who have long been acquainted with her I am satisfied her character for truth and veracity is unimpeachable, and well entitled to full credence. 

[signed] Harvey Watson Judge of Schoharie County Courts 

State of New York 
Schoharie County ⎬ SS:  I, Thomas McArthur Clerk of the said County, do certify that Harvey Watson before whom the within and annexed affidavits of Winche Beedle Jemima Bice, John Van Nosdall and Phebe Van Nosdall purport to have been sworn and whose name also appeared to the preceding and annexed Certificate of Identity, was at the date of the same, one of the Judges of Schoharie County Courts, and that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavits and also to the certificate of identity to be his proper hand writing & signature. 
Given under my hand and seal of Office this 18th day of May A.D. 1842. 

[signed] Thos McArthur Clerk of Schoharie County
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our
Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.

M.E. C.
copied from letter
by MMHF, dated
May 10, 1924

September 8, 1928.
copied by A.D.Y

Fenimore D. Beagle,
Department of Health,
Albany, New York.

Sir:

I advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary 
War pension claim, W. 20699, it appears that John Beagle
enlisted at New City (which was later called Lansingburgh),
New York, in the fall of 1775 and served nine months in
Captain Leonard Bleecker's Company under Major Tillman and
was at the Siege of Saint John.

Immediately after, he enlisted in Captain John Bradt's
Company of Schenectady Rangers and served three or four
months, when he again enlisted in Captain Leonard Bleecker's
Company, Colonels Peter Gansevoort's and Goose Van Schaick's
New York Regiments, was at the battles of Trenton, Fort Stanwix and at the taking of Cornwallis and served until peace
was declared in 1783.

He was allowed pension on his application executed
April 27, 1818 while a resident of Schoharie, Schoharie
County, New York aged seventy-two years, seven months and
eight days. He died in said town November 6, 1829.
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Soldier married September 18, or 19, 1785 in Fishkill,
New York, Lavintyea or Winche Van Nosdall or Van Asdall who
was the granddaughter of John and Fanny Vermiliar of said
Fishkill. She was allowed pension on her application executed
May 17, 1842 (when she signed by mark Beedle and
Beadle) while a resident of Schoharie, New York aged seventy-
four years. They had ten children, the following are the
only names given: William born July 1, 1786, Moses and Mary
baptised in 1788 and 1790, Catherine, Phebe and Sally aptised
in 1793, 1795 and 1798, and Jemima born April 10, 1802
and who married ....... Bice and was a resident of Schoharie, New York in 1842.

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.

copied by A.D.G.
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148.
Hiram H. Bice
28 Scott St
Utica, N.Y.

Jany - 14 - 1901.
N.H. Bice. N. Y. City

Jany - 28 - 1901
above name of parents
wid. not stated, nor date
of her death -
How to get date of last
payment

1907 Apl. 4  Hist. to F. D. Beagle
1907 Apr. 18  F.D. Beagle wife
date of death not stated and
that he should apply to
Aud. Int for date of last
payment of pension AW
1924-May 10-Hist. to Mrs. Redwood
Vandergift - MMMT

1928 Sept 8 Hist to 
Fenimore D. Beagle MEE

Rev Oct. 28
WIDOW, &c.

File No. 20.699
Winche Beagle
Beagle Wid of
John Beagle
Corpl. Rev. War
---
Act: March 3d '/43
Index: -- Vol. A, Page 53
[Arrangement of 1870.]

To
aj
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6763
New York

Winche Beedle widow of 
John Beedle dec
who was a pensioner under the Act of 1818
and who died on the 6 Nov. 1829
of Schoharie in the State of N.Y.
who was a Corporal in the Comp
commanded by Captain ---- of the
Regt commanded by Van Schaick in
the N York line for 2 years,

Inscribed on the Roll of N.Y. Albany
at the rate of 88 Dollars
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day
of March, 1836.

Certificate of Pension issued the 6
day of Sep: 1842 and sent to W. B.
Pierce Esqr Albany N.Y

Arrears to the 4th of March 41
Semiannual allowance ending
440
Act July 7, 1838.

Recorded by Theo L Moody Clerk
Book A. Vol. 2 Page 70

Reported,
Let to Hon J. Q. Adams Dec 15th
1842.
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Application of 8.402.
Winche Reedle
Act of
July 7. 1838

Amt
2 yrs Corpl
$88
No deduction

Agent
Wm B Pierce
Albany
N.Y.
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State of New York 
Schoharie County ⎬ ss 
Jemima Bice of the town of Schoharie in said County, being duly sworn saith that she was forty years of age, on the tenth day of April last. That she is a daughter of John & Winche Beedle, the identical persons refered to and described in the accompanying papers and that she is their eighth child. That her father the said John Beedle was always reputed to have been a soldier of the Revolution, & that in consequence of his service therein he received a pension of $96. per annum. That he died in the month of November 1829. That her mother the said Winche Beedle, since the earliest recollection of this Deponent lived with the said John Beedle as his lawful wife, and that since his death as aforesaid she has remained his Widow That she has always understood that her said father & mother the said John & Winche Beedle were duly married at Fishkill NY by a Justice of the Peace a short time after the war of the Revolution. That they must have been married many years before the year 1794 as their oldest child. Deponents brother William
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William is sixteen years older than this Deponent or fifty six years of age. That as long ago as Deponent can remember, she has heard her father the said John Beedle speak of his revolutionary services, that during said war, he served for a period of seven years & suffered many privations and hardships. And further this Deponent saith not 

Jemima Bice her [handwritten] X mark

Subscribed & sworn this 30th day of August 1842 before me & I certify that the Deponent Jemima Bice is a credible witness

[signed] John Westover Judge of Schoharie County Courts
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2199
Winche Beedle
Act
March 3, 1843

$88 per ann

Agent
Wm B. Pierce
Albany
N.Y.
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STATE OF NEW YORK,
County of Schoharie ⎬ss
On this Twenty fourth day of May in the year
one thousand eight hundred and forty - Here before the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County of Schoharie personally appeared, Winche Beadle a resident of the town of Schoharie in said county, aged Seventy Five who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed on the 3d of March 1843, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the revolutionary war:

That she is the widow of John Bradle who was a soldier of the Revolution and at the time of his death a Pensioner of the United States

She further declares that she was a Pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress, passed July 7, 1838, and that the annual amount of the pension which she
received under the said act was eighty Eight per Annum

She further declares that she is still a widow of John Beadle.

Winche Beadle
her X mark

Sworn to and subscribed on the day 
and year first above written.

[signed] Stephen B. Gale Justice

*Certify that the above declarant is personally known to me.

[signed] Stephen B. Gale, Justice

STATE OF NEW YORK
County of Schoharie  ss

I, Thomas McArthur clerk of said county, do hereby certify that Stephen B. Gale was on
the day of the date of the above jurat and certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said county, duly appointed and qualified, and that the signature above, purporting to be his, is genuine.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name, this seventh day of June 1843.

[signed] Thos McArthur Clerk
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Hon J L Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
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In the matter of the application 
of Winche Beedle for a pension 
under the Act of Congress Passed 
July 7. 1838.  }
Albany Sept. 1842
Hon J.L. Edwards,
Sir 
Winche Beedle above refered to, is the widow of John Beedle who was a pensioner of the United States under the Act of Congress passed March 18. 1818 & died on the 6th day of November 1829.
She was married 19 Sept. 1785 at Fishkill N.Y. by a Justice of the Peace so that no record was preserved.
She has no family record. 
She proves her marriage first by her brother John Van Nosdall aged 67 years, who testifies that she was married when he was ten years of age, or in the fall of the year 1785, & that afterwards until 1794 she lived with said John Beedle as his lawful wife & from that time until his death. 
By Phebe Van Nosdoll who testifies that she became acquainted with said Winche in the month of April 1793. & that she was then the wife of said John Beedle and the mother of a number of
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children by him; and by her daughter Jemima Bice aged forty years who 
testifies that she has a brother living, a lawful child of said John  & Winche Beedle who is sixteen years older than herself so that said marriage must have occurred many years previous to 1794.
She proves that she is the widow of the pensioner John Beedle by five witnesses, which number may be increased if required 
This application was forwarded early in May last to the Care of the Hon John Quincy Adams. He writes that he never received the paper so that the widow has been compelled to prepare papers anew. She is old & infirm & greatly in need of whatever assistance she may be entitled to receive from the United States 
I have the Honor to remain 
With Great Respect 
Your Obt Servant 
Wm. B. Pierce 
58 Broadway 
Albany 
N. Y.
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State of New York 
Schoharie County ⎬ ss:
I, Thomas McArthur Clerk of the said County, do hereby certify that John Westover, before whom the annexed affidavits of Winche Beedle, John Van Nosdall, Phebe Van Nosdall, Susann Bice, Abram Patrick and Joshua Bice, purport to have been sworn and whose name also appears to the annexed certificates of identity of the same persons above named, was at the date of the same one of the Judge of Schoharie County Courts, and that I am well acquainted with his handwriting, and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavits, and also to the certificates of identity to be his proper handwriting and Signature.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the Court of Common Pleas of said County this 31st day of August in the year 1842. 
Thomas McArthur Clerk
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Declaration 
In order to obtain the benefit of the pension made by an act of Congress passed July 7th 1838 entitled "an act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows”

State of New York ss 
On this 30th day of August 1842 personally appeared before John Westover Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Schoharie in said State Winche Beedle a resident of the town and County of Schoharie aged seventy four years and upwards who being first duly sworn according to law made the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the pension made by an act of Congress passed July 7th 1838 entitled “an act granting half pay & pensions to certain widows" That she is the widow of John Beedle late a resident of the town and County of Schoharie, who was a pensioner of the United States and died on the 6th November 1829. That she is unable to relate the particulars of her said husbands revolutionary services as she was not married to him untill after the war of the revolution. She has however frequently heard her said husband relate that he did serve during said war and as declarant believes under the command of of Captain Leonard Bleecker & Col Van Schaick of the New York line. That in one battle his cartridge box was shot off & in another his plume. That he was in a besieged fort for a period of three weeks
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Besides being subjected to many other dangers and hardships which declarant cannot particularly state. That in consideration of said revolutionary service her said husband was (previous to his death) enrolled upon the pension list of the United States and received a pension of ninety Six Dollars per annum. And declarant further saith that her maiden name was Van Nosdall. That she was married on or about the 19th day of September 1785 at Fishkill Plains by a Justice of the Peace whose name declarant cannot remember in the presence of her grandfather and grandmother. That she had no record of said marriage, and does not believe that any record thereof exists, as she was married by a Justice of the Peace an officer not in the habit of preserving such records. That her husband the said John Beedle died on the friday the 6th November 1829 that she is the mother of ten children by the said John Beedle the eldest of whom William Beedle was born on the first day of July of the year 1786.  That she was not married to the said John Beedle previous to his leaving the said service, but that her marriage took place before the 1st of January 1794. towit at the time before stated and that since the death of the said John Beedle as aforesaid she this declarant has remained his widow Single and unmarried & is still unmarried, 
Winche Beedle her [handwritten] X mark
Subscribed & sworn the day and year aforesaid before me & I Certify that the declarant Wenche Beedle is unable to attend Court by reason of an old age & bodily infirmity 
John Westover Judge Schoharie County Court
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And 
and bodily infirmities 
John Westover Judge of Schoharie County Courts  }

And I further certify that the said Winche Beedle is a credible Witness John Westover Judge of Schoharie County Courts.

State of New York 
Schoharie County   } ss
John Van Nosdoll of the town of Middleburg in said County aged 67 years being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is [crossed out acquainted] brother of Winche Beedle the widow of John Beedle deceased, who is now applying for a pension. That when this deponent was 10 years of age to wit in the fall of the year 1785 his sister the said Winche left home with the said Beedle to be married. That previous to that time they resided together at their fathers house in the town of Fishkill and deponent was then and there informed and has ever since believed the same to be true that his sister the said Winche was duly married to the said John Beedle at Fishkill N.Y. by a Justice of the Peace towit in the fall of the year 1785 That after said time & previous to the year 1794 said John & Winche lived together as husband and wife and had a number of children, That after the year 1794 untill the death of the said John [crossed out John] Beedle which occured in November 1829 they continued to live together as husband and wife and that since the death of the said John Beedle the said Winche has remained his widow single and unmarried & still is unmarried and Deponent further saith that the
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said John Beedle was always reputed to have been a soldier of the revolution belonging to the New York line. That in consequence of his services therein he received a pension of $96. per annum which he continued to enjoy untill the day of his death; that deponent is unable to state the particulars of his revolutionary services but has always understood that he did serve for a number of years during said revolution and that in consequence thereof he received said pension 
John Van Nosdoll his [handwritten] X mark 
Subscribed & sworn this 30th day of August, 1842 before me John Westover Judge of Schoharie County Courts 
And I further certify that the said John Van Nosdoll is a credible witness 
John Westover Judge 
 of Schoharie County Courts
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State of New York 
Schoharie County  }ss
Phebe Van Nosdoll of the town of Middleberg in said County aged 74 years being duly sworn deposeth and saith, That she is well and intimately acquainted with Winche Beedle who now lives in the town and County of Schoharie aforesaid and is an applicant for a pension. That she became acquainted with the said Winche in the month of April 1793. That she remembers the precise time from this connexion towit that this deponants son Jacob was born on the 23d day of October following & was baptized on the same day with said Winche Beedles daughter Phebe. That at the time of their first acquaintance towit in the month of April 1793 the said Winche was the wife of John Beedle who died at Schoharie aforesaid on the 6th November 1829 and that she then was the mother of a number of children by the said John Beedle. That from that time untill the death of the said John Beedle as aforesaid she the said Winche continued to live with him as his lawful wife & that since his death she has remained his widow single and unmarried & is still unmarried. And deponant further saith that the said John Beedle is the identicle person to whom a pension was awarded by the United States in consequence of his services in the revolution That he was always reputed to have been a soldier of the revolution and to have served for a number of years during said war but of the particular services
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he performed this deponant has no knowledg 
Phebe Van Nosdoll her [handwritten] X mark

Subscribed and sworn this 30th day of August 1842 before me & I certify that said Phebe Van Nosdoll is a credible witness 
John Westover 
Judge of Schoharie County Courts
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State of New York
Schoharie County
Abraham Patrick & Joshua Bice
being duly sworn depose and say that previous to the
death of John Beedle late of the town of Schoharie
in said County they were well acquainted with
him the said John Beedle, and knew that he was a
revolutionary pensioner of the United States. That
said John Beedle died about twelve or thirteen 
years ago, leaving a widow who is now an 
applicant for a pension. That his said widow Winche 
Beedle is the identical person refered to and
described in the accompanying papers.  That Deponents 
are also will acquainted with said Winche
Beedle, and know that she was the wife of said
John Beedle who was a pensioner as aforesaid
and that she is now his widow sings & unmarried.
Abram Patrick
Joshua Bice


Subscribed and sworn
this 30th day of August
1842 before me
& I certify
that Abram Patrick &
Joshua Bice are
credible witnesses John ⎬
Weston Judge of
County Courts
Schoharie county courts
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State of New York
Schoharie County
⎬
ss

Phebe Van Nosdall of
Middleburgh in said County being duly sworn
before Harvey Watson Judge of Schoharie County
courts makes oath and says that she is seventy
four years of age that she became acquainted with
John Beedle and his wife Winche in April
1793 - the cause of her remembering the time so
accurately is that her son Jacob was born in
the 23rd day of October following, and that the
said Winchy's daughter Phebe being about the same
age was baptized at Schoharie on the same
day her son Jacob was baptised, that when she
became acquainted with the said John Beedle
and his wife Winche, they resided in the town &
County of Schoharie in said State, and that they
then lived together as husband and wife and had
four children, and that they continued to live thus
untill the time of the death of the said John Beedle 
which occurred about twelve years ago - at Schoharie 
aforesaid, that this deponent attended his funeral

Phebe Van Nosdall
her X mark

Subscribed and sworn
May 17th 1842 before
me.  And I certify the
reason assigned by
deponent for not
writing her name is
at she never learned
to write.  And that "William"
was erased and "Jacob" inter-
lined before signing.  
Harvey Watson Judge of
Schoharie County Courts

I certify that Phebe Van Nosdall
makes of the foregoing affidavit
is worthy of full credence.
Harvey Watson Judge
of Schoharie County Courts
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in the State of New York; that he has been
familiarly acquainted with the said John Beedle
from the time of his said Marriage untill the ┃
time of his death, which occurred at Schoharie
in said County in the month of November
about twelve years ago. That the said John
Beedle and his said sister Winche lived together
as husband and wife from the time of their marriage
aforesaid untill the time the said John
Beedle died as aforesaid.

John Van Nosdall
his X mark

Subscribed and sworn
May 17th 1842 before
me. And I certify that
the reason assigned by
said deponent for not
writing his name is
that he never learned
to write
Harvey Watson Judge of
Schoharie County Courts

I certify that John Van Nosdall maker of
the foregoing affidavit is a man of fair
character for truth and veracity and his affidavit
entitled to full credit.
Harvey Watson Judge
of Schoharie County Courts
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I certify that the character and reputation
of the within named Jemina Bice is fair and
unimpeachable and that her affidavit within
made is entitled to full credence
Harvey Watson Judge of
Schoharie County Courts


State of New York
Schoharie County
ss
John Van Nosdall of Middleburgh
in said county being duly sworn before
Harvey Watson Judge of Schoharie County Courts
makes oath and says that he was sixty seven
years of age on the ninth day of May instant;
that he is a brother of Winche Beedle in the foregoing
application named; that he well remembers 
when deponent was somewhere about ten years
of age, his said sister Winche left home in company
with a man by the name of John Beedle
as it was said in the family for the purpose
of being married; that shortly there after his
said sister and the said John Beedle returned
and this deponent then understood, and has always
since understood and believed that
his said Sister Winche and the said John Beedle were
then married at a place called Fishkill
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State of New York
Schoharie County
Ss

Jemima Bice being duly sworn
before the undersigned Judge of Schoharie County Courts
make oath and says, that she is the daughter of John
Beedle named in the declaration of Winche Beadle
hereunto annexed, who is the mother of this deponent
that she was forty years old the tenth day of April last
past, that she resides in the town of Schoharie in
the County of Schoharie, and that the said Winche
Beedle her mother resides with her. That her said
father John Beedle and her said mother Winche 
Beedle have lived together  as husband and wife from the
time of her earliest recollections untill the death
of her said father in November 1829. that she is the
seventh child of her said mother that she remembers 
often to have heard her father relate and anecdotes which
transpired when he was a soldier of the Revolution
and that she has often heard him say that he did
service in the Continental army seven years. That
this deponent was present when her said father John Beedle
died, and that she recollects it was on Friday of the week in November 1829 in which the New York State
Election was holden,

Jemima Bice
her X mark

Subscribed and sworn 
before me May 17th 1842
and I certify that the reason
afsigned by said deponent for
not writing her name is
that she never learned to write
Harvey Watson Judge of
Schoharie County Courts
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Schoharie August 29, 1844 
Sir:
I enclosed to you the pension application of Mrs. Matilda Manning nearly eight month ago and have heard nothing in relation to it since, although I have been inquired of frequently [crossed out illegible] in relation to the business. It appears to me that decisions in most of the cases that I have been concerned in, if not unfavorable, have been delayed much longer that [than] cases presented by Some others; and it would seem next to impossible for any widow, whose proceedings are conducted by me, to prove her marriage, satisfactorily, short of Record evidence . I recollect that some three or four years ago I was employed by one George Peak, to get a pension for his mother. The witnesses to the marriage lived some 50 or 60 miles off, and I had a good deal of trouble and expense before I could get such proof of the marriage as I thought would be satisfactory; but you rejected her claim upon the ground that the proof [crossed out illegible] of the marriage was not satisfactory, and that being all the evidence of the marriage that could be adduced I told her son I could do no more for her, and handed over to him a copy of the proceedings that he might employ some other person, he took the papers and told me afterwards that the pension was allowed without another particle of proof, but merely upon a letter written to you; consequently I got no compensation for my trouble, services &c.
 I have in all cases, I believe been required by you to prove by the priest of the Parish and Town Clerk, where the marriage was alleged to have taken place, that there was no record of the marriage, before you would receive [illegible paid] proof. this has not been [illegible] of some others if I have been rightly informed. 
Mrs. Rose Develly proved her marriage by two witnesses but that proof it seems was not satisfactory, she did, however, by causing a second thorough
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search obtained record evidence, otherwise she would have failed; yet others have succeeded upon the evidence of a single witness without proving there was no record of the marriage 
I am informed by Mr. William Simpson of this town that his mothers marriage was proved by one witness only, an old lady living in New Jersey, and that the applicant was not required to prove that there was no record of the marriage.
The widow Bethiah Inness whose case I conducted, after providing evidence that there was no record of the marriage proved her marriage by a credible witness who was present at the time, but upon this proof her claim was rejected. 
Now I should like to know if as good evidence of the marriage of the assumed widow of John Beagle, a pensioner of this place, who died about 14 years ago, was adduced as in the case above? Common report says he had a wife whom he left and took this woman to live with. These reports however may not be true, although I have never heard them contradicted yet Mr. Pierse found no difficulty in getting a pension for her of $400, the half of which he retained for his services, yet I am fully satisfied that if I had presented her claim upon the same proof it would have been rejected, for I venture to say that the proof of her marriage was not stronger than that of Mrs Bethiah Inness who applied in 1839, and renewed her application in April 1843, but in her case the testimony of one witness was decided insufficient, She then provided four more affidavits which I enclosed to you December 1843, and although it was a claim of long standing and a perfectly clear case, yet it was laid aside and claims presented long afterwards were decided and five years pensions granted, but Mrs. Inness's case was neglected till the law of April 1844 cut her Short of the greater part of her pension.
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Mrs. Innes was disatisfied with this tardiness and laid all the blame to me for this loss of pension. She said a widow in her neighbourhood had drawn a five years pension who applied to long after the testimony in her, Mrs Inness's case, was closed and sent to you. Now if her case had been decided according to priority she would have drawn a five years pension, and I should have been paid for my services, but as it was I had to take up with but a trifle more than I had paid out of pocket. 
I have never sought for pension business, for the small fees which I have been in the habit of charging made it no object, and indeed I have obtained a number of pensions for which I received no compensation, and the cases which I have conducted have generally been undertaken to prevent the applicants from being swindled out of half their pension by these travelling pension hunters, for they generally exact the one half, and when the pensions are large it is a money making business with them. There are some who do business on a large scale and are connected with some one at Washington who has a share of the fees and from whom they obtain such information from time to time as they may require to aid them in their business.
I am, respectfully,
Your Obt Sevt

[singed] Elias Holliday 

James L. Edwards Esq
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Hon. J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
D.C

Hon J Q Adams
H R
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In the matter of the 
application of Winche 
Beedle for a pension 
under the act of Congress 
passed July 7. 1838 }

Hon. J. L. Edwards
Sir:
I herewith enclose for your consideration the papers of Widow Winche Beedle. 
She was married by a Justice of the Peace so that there is no public record of her marriage. 
She has no family record. 
There is abundant evidence that she was wife of John Beedle previous to 1794. 
John Beedle was at the time of his death a pensioner of the United States under the act of March 18 1818 
Respectfully soliciting an early Consideration of this claim I remain Your Obt & Humble servant 
Wm. B. Pierce
Albany N.Y. May 20, 1852
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LAW DIVISION of
E.G. DWP

8 -- 1868.
3 - 14 - 07
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR.
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
WASHINGTON, D. C.,       March 29, 1907.

Mr. F. D. Beagle,
State Department of Health,
Albany, N. Y.

Sir: 
In response to your attached communication of the 25th inst.,
received the 27th instant, you are advised that if you will
return the same and this letter with an endorsement, stating
the character of information desired by you, and if the same
pertains to any claim for pension filed in this Bureau, giving
the name of the claimant, his service and the number of his claim,
to the end that the papers pertaining to the same may be readily
identified, you will be further advised in the premises.
Very respectfully,
V Warner
Commissioner.

[Stamped] Apr 3 1907 Files

[Stamped] Pension Office 
Apr 2 1907
US

Dear Sir.
I wrote for a certificate of service of John Beagle
(also spelled Beadle, Beedle and Begel) He enlisted in the Revolutionary War
as a private at New City this State, for nine months, and
later reenlisted to the close of the war, serving
as Corp in the 8th Co 3rd Regt NY Line. He was pensioned in 1818. Served
in the battles of St John, Fort Stanwix, Trenton & Yorktown
F D Beagle
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PUBLIC HEALTH IS PURCHASABLE
WITHIN NATURAL LIMITATIONS ANY COMMUNITY CAN DETERMINE IT'S OWN DEATH RATE

MATTHIAS NICOLL, JR., M. D.
COMMISSIONER
PAUL B. BROOKS, M.D
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER
EDWARD H. MARSH, M. D.
SECRETARY
FENIMORE D. BEAGLE
EXECUTIVE OFFICER

STATE OF NEW YORK
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
ALBANY

November 7, 1927

Department of Interior,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sirs:-

I wish you would kindly look up " Widow's File
No. 20.699" Revolutionary War Records, John Beagle's application,
and give me full information as to family history.

The above is wanted for the purpose of showing
eligibility of members of my family to join Sons and
Daughters of the Revolution.

Perhaps you will find name carried on your rolls
as Beadle and Beedle.

Thanking you for your kindness in the matter,
I remain,
Very truly yours,
F.D. Beagle

[Stamped] Pension Office
Nov 9 1927
U.S.
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Washington DC
April 7.

To the Office of the
Commissioner of Pensions
I write asking for a copy 
of the pension papers of 
John Beagle a private
in the New York line
Revolutionary War.  He
is an ancestor of mine
his data is mentioned

[Stamped] Pension Office
Apr 8 1924
U.S.
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on page 348
U.S. Pension list 1820
a copy of his papers would
give great comfort and
pleasure to yours truly.

Mrs. Redwood Vandegrife
Regent of the 
Margaret Whitten Chapt D.A.R.
of the District of Columbia
1629 twenty-first street
City
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[Stamped] Pension Office
US
Jan 9 1901

[Stamped] 0.W.&M DIVISION
JAN 11 1901
RECEIVED
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THE DEWITT CLINTON HIGH SCHOOL Dewitt
417 WEST 114 STREET
NEW YORK 

owv

Jan. 6. 1901.
Pension Bureau
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
Will you please
send me all the facts recorded
about John Beagle who on Apr. 27.
1818 made - application for a pension
for service in the Revolutionary War.
His pension was allowed the same
year. A part of his service was
under Capt. Bleeker and Col. Gansevoort.
my [facte] is to the place of his 
birth, relatives, etc. are particularly
important.
Yours very truly
Hiram H. Bice
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B
28, Scotch St. Utica, N.Y.
Aug. 25, 1898.
Dear Sir:
Will you kindly tell me
what records you have, if any
as to a pension held by a John
Bedle or Beagle, a Revolutionary
pensioner, who died about Mch.
1830. How long did he hold it,
and for what was the pension
granted, and where did he live
both during the Revolution and
afterwards?  There may have been
two; of so please tell me what
you can of each of them. Of
course I mean only those who
were in the New York forces.

Have you also any record
of pensions held by any men
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by the name of Aaron or John Buys
or Bise, or Bice, or Buis or even
Boice, for service in the Revolution.
If so, please tell me where they
lived and all you have on
record about them, and you
will greatly oblige me.
Yours very truely, 
Hiram H. Bice

[Stamped] OLD WAR NAVY.
AUG 29 1898
FILES

[Stamped] PENSION OFFICE
AUG 26 1898
U.S.
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[stamped]
O.W.&N. DIVISION 
JAN 22 1901 
RECEIVED 

M. & B. 120
[handwritten] RHew

The Dewitt Clinton High School, 417 WEST 114TH STREET, 
[crossed out: 60 West 13th Street]
New York City, Jan 16. 1901,

Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D. c.,
Dear Sirs:
I received from you a statement of the record of John Beagle, a revolutionary pensioner, in which you state that his widow Winche Van Nosdell, received a pension after his death in 1829. Will you kindly give me all the facts in your possession in regard to said Winche Van Nosdall, such for example, if possible, as and where she was born, place and date of death, where she lived while she received the pension, names of her parents, if given, names of any witnesses given on her application or any other facts  about her family which appear, and I shall be greatly obliged. 
Yours very truly, 
Hiram H. Bice

[stamped:] U.S. PENSION OFFICE JAN 17 1901
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EUGENE H. PORTER, M. D.
COMMISSIONER

NEW YORK
STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
ALBANY

O.W.&N. DIV FILES
APR 8 1907
1907

April 7, 1907
Hon J.L. Davenport
Acting Commissioner
Dept of Interior
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:

I am in receipt of your letter of the 4th inst
containing information about the service rendered in the Revolutionary war by John Beagle, and thank you eversomuch
for your kindness in the matter.

I wish you would let me know if your records
show when Winch Beedle died (Widow File No. 20, 699)
I presume your records show when the pension was "cut off", and by that I am I in hopes of getting the date of her death.

Again thanking you for your kindness, I remain
Very Respy
FD Beagle


[Stamped] FIRST
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER
APR 8 1907
U. S.
PENSION OFFICE.
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[stamp]

U.S. Pension Office
Apr 2 1907
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Data
claim specify

EUGENE H. PORTER, M. D.
COMMISSIONER

NEW YORK.
STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
ALBANY

Mch 25-07

Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, DC

Dear Sir
Kindly refer to my request
of the 15th inst and advise me
as to when you hope to be able
to furnish me with the desired
information.
F.D. Beagle
Very Respy


[Stamped] OPL
OW?DIV.FILES
Apr 3 1907

[Stamped] LAW DIVISION
MAR 28 1907

[Stamped] PENSION OFFICE
US
MAR 27 1907
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OM&H
EUGENE H. PORTER, M. D.
COMMISSIONER

NEW YORK
STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
ALBANY

2560
March 15, 1907

Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

Dear sir:
Please send me a certificate of
the service of John Beagle ( also appears on
public records as Beedle, Beadle and Begel )
who served in the Revolutionary War.

He enlisted in 1775 at New City for
nine months and later reenlisted to the close
of the war, serving as Corporal, 8th Company,
3rd Regiment, New York Line.

He was engaged in the battles of
St. John, Fort Stanwix, Trenton and Yorktown,
and was granted a pension in 1818.

Thanking you for any courtesy extended
in this matter, I remain,
Very respectfully,
F.D. Beagle

[Stamped] MAR 18 1907
U.S.
PENSION OFFICE
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MMHT
Rev. and 1812 Wars Section

May 10, 1924

Mrs. Redwood Vandegrift
1629 Twenty-First St.,
Washington, D. C.

Madam:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim W. 20699 it appears that John Beagle enlisted at New City (which was later called Lansingburgh), New York, in the fall of 1775 and served nine months in Captain Leonard Bleecker's Company under Major Tillman and was at the Siege of Saint John.

Immediately after, he enlisted in Captain John
Brady's Company of Schenectady Rangers and served three or four months, when he again enlisted in Captain Leonard Bleecker's Company, Colonels Peter Gansevoort's and
Goose Van Schaick's New York Regiments, was at the battles of Trenton, Fort Stanwix and at the taking of Cornwallis and served until peace was declared in 1783.

He was allowed pension on his application execute ed April 27, 1818 while a resident of Schoharie, Scho-

N. Y. books give "Bleeker" but he signs as above incl. for pens.
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Schoharie County, New York aged seventy-two years, seven
months and eight days. He died in said town November
6, 1829.

Soldier married September 18, or 19, 1785 in
Fishkill, New York, Lavintyea or Winche Van Nosdall or
Van Asdall who was the granddaughter of John and Fanny
Vermiliar of said Fishkill. She was allowed pension
on her application executed May 17, 1842 when she
signed by mark Beedle and Beadle) while a resident of
Schoharie, New York aged seventy-four years. They had
ten children, the following are the only names given:
William born July 1, 1786, Moses and Mary baptised in
1788 and 1790, Catherine, Phebe and Sally baptised in
1793, 1795 and 1798, and Jemima born April 10, 1802
and who married..... Bice and was a resident of Schoharie, New York in 1842.

Respectfully,

Commissioner.
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April 20, 1907

Mr. F. L. Beagle,
New York State Department of Health,
Albany, New York.

In response to your letter dated the 7th instant and
received the 8th, you are advised that the papers in the
claim of Winche, widow of John Beagle (pensioned as Beedle)
Widow's File No. 20699, fail to show the date of her death.

For date of last payment of pension you should apply
to the Auditor for the Interior Department, Treasury Department, 
citing the following data: Certificate No. 1904,
issued September 8, 1843, under Act of March 3, 1843, paid
at the Albany, New York, Agency.

Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.