Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8628, John Grim, Va.
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(3-1776)
SERVICE                    NUMBER
 VA.    Grim, John       S. 8628

Born in Pa.                  carded
CONTENTS
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(left hand side of page, torn corner)
Lemuel Bent
L 9- 37 - (certificate)
ID applicants certificate issu.
July 7, 1837 - and sent to Lem. Bent, Winchester, Virginia
Ower to pay A gt. 11,1807
Let. to A. Robinson - "  "  "

(right hand side of page)
Virginia 16, 441.
John Grim
Fredk Co. in the State of Virginia
was a pri. in the Company commanded Captain Minn of the____ commanded Gen. Sterling on the Virginia Militia for 7 mos.

Certificate of Pension issued the 19h day of Aug.
 1833 and handed to J. G. Bryce, present
Arrears to the 4th of March 1832 - 46.16
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept. " 11.56
$58.32
{Revolutionary War{}
{Act June 7 1832}
Recorded by Henry H. Sylvester, Clerk
Book E Vol. 6 Page 9
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State of Virginia
Frederick County to wit:
on this fifth day of February 1833 personally appeared in open court before the court of Frederick County now sitting, John Grim a resident of the borough of Winchester in the County of Frederick and state of Virginia, aged seventy nine years, three months and upwards, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
He was born on the 15th day of October 1753, in the town of York, and Colony of Pennsylvania, a record of which is contained in an old dutch bible which once belonged to his father and is now in his own possession. He entered into the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. In December 1776 he volunteered in Winchester Frederick County, Virginia, with Captain Charles Minn Thruston (who he thinks had a commission from the State of Virginia, but he does not know whether in the State line or Militia) for a tour of three months. He marched with Captain Thruston through Frederick-town, Lancaster, York, and Philadelphia, to Morristown in the Jerseys, where General Washington there had his head quarters. They arrived there, he thinks in January 1777; and the same day they were marched to a place called Basking-ridge about fifteen miles from Morristown, where General Sterling was stationed, and they remained under the command of this officer during the winter. General Scott was at a place a little lower down. During this winter he was in two scirmishes with the British. The first took place near Quibble town, between a scouting party of the Americans, including about twenty of Cap Thruston's company, and a foragingn party of the Brittish,
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and one of our seargents was wounded in it. The second scirmish in which he was engaged was near a place as such called Piscataway not far from Brunswick where the Brittish had their head quarters. In this affair Capt. Thurston and all the company were engaged. Captain Thurston was shot through the arm and the bone shattered. Your petitioner carried him off the field and with the assistance of James Gunn, a light-horse man, put him into a sleigh by which he was conveyed to the hospital about eight miles off. This affair he thinks was on the 3rd of March, and the snow was quite deep. He served through this tour of three months under Captain Thurston, and was regularly discharged with the rest, but one discharge was given to a whole [unreadable word] together and he does not know what became of it. He has no doubt it has been lost or destroyed long ago. In July 1778 he went through a tour of one month, under Captain Adam Heiskell - General Daniel Morgan being also with them and perhaps having a general command of the expedition. He volunteered in Winchester, Frederick County Va, and was marched into Hampshire County, where they arrested and took into custody [unreadable word] who were charged with being tories, hostile to our independence and friendly with our enemies. Some of these men afterward took the oath of allegiance, and some volunteered and went with the troops against Cornwallis. In August 1779 he again entered into the United States Service for a tour of three months as a volunteer, with Captain Samuel Gilkenson, and was immediately marched to Philadelphia, from Frederick County Va as one of the guard on certain Brittish prisioners, who he thinks, had been taken with Burgoyn and [crossed out] Cornwallis [crossed out], and for a considerable time were kept near Winchester in said County and state. Your petitioner served through each of the
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three tours above mentioned, until regularly discharged each time, but he has no documentary evidence of the same, the discharges being lost or destroyed as he believes. He was a volunteer in each, and he resided during the whole time except when in service, in Winchester, Frederick County, Virginia, to which place he was removed from Pennsylvania, when he was only about three years of age. All the evidence of his service which he is able to procure to the best of his knowledge, is [unreadable word] hereto.  He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the PensionRoll of the agency of any state. Sworn to and subscribed in open court the day and year first aforesaid. John Grim [signature]
Sworn to in Court [unreadable signature]
We George Read, a clergyman residing in the town of Winchester, Frederick County, Virginia, and John Sperry residing in the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Grimm, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy nine years of age; that he is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion. Sworn to and subscribed, in open court, the day and year first aforesaid.Sworn to in Court  [unreaable signature] Geo. Reed [signature] John Sperry [signature]
John Sperry a witness sworn in ipen court states that he was in the company of Captain Thurston in the tour mentioned in the foregoing declaration; and that he believes the declaration is true as to that matter. Mr Grim was not in his own but was in his brothers [unreadable word] Others present were brought into court as witnesses but the court being satisfied, did not examine more.
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the within affidavit of John Sperry was made in Open Court the 5th day of February, 1833
T. A. Tidball, cl

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war Department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states and the court further certifies that it appears to them that George Reed  ____ who has signed the preceeding (sic) certificate is a clergyman resident in Winchester Frederick County Virginia, and that John Sperry _____ who has also signed the same is a resident in the same town, and is a creditable person, and that their statement, as well as the annexed affidavits, are entitled to credit.
I, Thomas Allen Tidball clerk of the county Court of Frederick do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Grim for a pension.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 5th day of February 1833.
T. A. Tidball
(flourish)
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May 28, 1936
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BA-J/EEL
Peter Grim - S. 37963
John Grim - S. 6628

Mr. Bernard B. Bigelow
First National Bank Building
Findlay, Ohio

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Peter Grim of the Virginia Line, a pensioner under the Act of March 18, 1818, of Shenandoah County, Virginia, and John Grim, a pensioner under the Act of June 7, 1832, of Frederick County, Virginia. 

A very careful examination has been made of the papers on file in the pension claims based upon the military service of those soldiers and the data found therein are furnished below. 

Peter Grim
S. 37963

The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary War pension claim , S. 37963, based upon the military service of Peter Grim in that war.

The date of place of birth and the names of the parents of Peter Grim are not shown.

Peter Grim enlisted in the state of Virginia, in October, 1780, served as a private in Captain Oldham's Company, Colonel Richard Campbell's Virginia Regiment, was in the battles of Guilford Court House, Camden, Siege of Ninety Six and Nutaw Springs and was discharged in May or June, 1782. 

He was allowed pension on his application executed May 26, 1818, at which time he was aged fifty-eight years and resided in Shenandoah County, Virginia.
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In 1820, Peter Grim stated that his family residing with him consisted of his wife, aged sisty-nine years and two daughters and that the daughters had five small children. He did not give any names.

He died May 4, 1838 place not shown.

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John Grim Copied from Miss Wilson's
S. 8628

The data which follow are obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 8628, based upon the military service of John Grim in that war.

John Grim was born October 15, 1753, in York Pennsylvania, and when about three years of age moved to Winchester, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown.

While living in Winchester, Virginia, John Grim enlisted in December, 1776, and served three months as a private in Captain Charles Minn Thruston's Virginia Company and was in skirmishes at Quibbletown and Piscataway, New Jersey; he enlisted in July, 1778, and served one month in Captain Adam Heiskell's Virginia Company: he enlisted in August, 1779 and served three months in Captain Samuel Gilkerson's Virginia Company.

He was allowed pension on his application executed February 5, 1833, while living in Winchester, Virginia.

There are no data as to family.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death the Revolutionary War Pensioner, John Grim (S. 8628), you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:

John Grim, Certificate no.16441, issued August 19, 1833, rate $23.33 per annum, commenced Jarch 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Virginia Agency.

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Very truly yours

A.D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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Payments to be made at Richmond Va by Pur W. S. A. Bank Agent for paying Pensioners, in the Agency of Va.

Recorded in the Pension Office, in Book E, Vol. 1, Page 7 by Henry H. Sylvester, Clerk
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WAR DEPARTMENT.
Revolutionary Claim.

I certify that, in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June, 1832, John Grim of the State of Virginia who was a private in the Army of the revolution is entitled to receive Twenty three dollars and Thirty three cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March, and 4th of September in every year.

Given at the War Office of the United States this nineteenth day of August, one thousand eight hundred and thirty-three.

Examined and } 
Countersigned.}
J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
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Frederick County To Wit
Jacob Sperry, a credible witness and over the age of seventy eight years, personally appeared before me, a justice of the peace for said county, and having been sworn according to law, deposeth and saith 
That he was a volunteer in the company of Charles M. Thruston, which marched from Winchester Frederick County Virginia, during the Revolutionary war, to the head quarters of General Washington at Morristown in the Jerseys; & from thence to where General Sterling was stationed. They had a scirmish (sic) with the Brittish (sic) in which Captain Thruston was wounded, but affiant was sick at the time & not with the company. Affiant was in one slight scirmish. John Grim of Winchester was a volunteer in the Company, and through the whole tour, was in the same mess with affiant. John Sperry, a brother of affiant was also in the company but not in the same mess. The tour was for three months - 
Given under my hand this 5th day of March 1833.

Ch. H. Clark
(flourish)

Post Office Dept. -
I certify that the above named Ch. H. Clark is a Justice of the Peace for the County of Frederick  County Va & that the above is his signature, August 19th 1833 -
J. G. Bryce, P.O.
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Virginia,
Corporation of Winchester Set
Be it known that on the 26th of June 1837 personally appeared before me a justice of the Corporation aforesaid Richard W. Barton esq. who being first duly sworn according to law deposeth and saith, that while a member of the Legislature of Virginia in the Winter of 1834-5, I received through Mr. Peter County of Winchester, a power of attorney and certificate of identity of John Grim in order to draw the pension due to him as a soldier of the Revolution, accompanied by the original pension certificate granted to the said John Grim, that I knew the amount of pension then due to the said John Grim, and left &the signed certificate, as well as I recollect with the then pension agent, or the person or clerk who transacted the business. I have been at Richmond within a few days and have made diligent inquiry for the said original certificate without being able to find it, the person who transacted the business whose name was Beadish, having since died, so it is however, the said certificate is either lost or mislaid.
Sworn to and subscribed by the said Richard W. Barton, who is a person of credibility the day and year first above written, before me }

Rc. W. Barton
D. W. Barton, J.P.
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Virginia,
Corporation of Winchester pr.
I Lemuel Bent Clerk of the Court of the Corporation aforesaid do hereby certify that David W. Barton is a justice of the peace in and for the said Corporation and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my Seal of office and subscribed my name this 26th day of June in the year 1834.
L. M. Bent
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January 7, 1935.

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BA-J/ady
John Grim
S. 8628

Mrs. Boyd Wees
Elkins
West Virginia

Dear Madam:

The data contained herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S. 8628, based upon the military service of John Grim in that war.

John Grim was born October 15, 1753 in York, Pennsylvania, and when about three years old moved form Pennsylvania, to Winchester, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown.

While a resident of Winchester, Virginia, he enlisted in December 1776, served three months as private in Captain Charles Mynn Thruston's Virginia Company and was in skirmishes at Quibbletown and Piscataway. He enlisted in July 1778 and served one month as private in Captain Adam Heiskell's Virginia Company. He enlisted in August 1779 and served three months in Captain Samuel Gilkerson's Virginia Company. 

He was allowed pension on his application executed February 5, 1833 while a resident of Winchester, Frederick County, Virginia.

There are no family data. 

Very truly yours

Date of death not

A. D. Hiller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator. 

on AB.
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January 7, 1835.

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BA-J/ady

Mrs. Boyd Wees
Elkins
West Virginia

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter relative to John Grimm and John Head, soldiers of the Revolutionary War.

Their records are furnished you herewith on separate pages, as found in the claims for pension based upon service in the Revolutionary War.

Very truly yours

A. D. Hiller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

March 28, 1927.

Mrs. D. W. Ritenour,
312 West Leicester St. 
Winchester, Va.

Madam: I have to advise you, that from the papers in the pension claim, S. 8628, it appears that John Grim was born October 15, 1753 at York, Pennsylvania, and while living at Winchester, Virginia, he enlisted in December 1778 and ser- (sic) for three months as a private in Captain Charles Mynn Thruston's Virginia Company and was in skirmishes at Quibbletown and Piscataway, New Jersey. He enlisted in July 1778 and served one month in Captain Adam Heiskell's Virginia Company and he enlisted in August 1779 and served three months in Captain Samuel Gilkerson's Virginia Company.
He was allowed pension on his application executed February 5, 1833 while living in Winchester, Virginia.
There is not information on file as to family.
Respectfully, 
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.
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November 10, 1927

Mrs. D. W. Ritenour
312 W. Leicester St.
Winchester, Va

Madam:
I have to advise you that in order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name of person paid, and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Grim S.8628, you should apply to the Record Division, General Accounting Office, Washington, D. C., citing all of the following data-

John Grim, Certificate No. 16441, issued August 19, 1833, rate $23.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Virginia Agency.

Respectfully, 
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.
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312 West Leicester St.,
Winchester, Va., June 10, 1927.

Re: Rev. and 1812 Wars Sections - 

Mr. Winfield Scott, Commissioner,
Department of the Interior,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir:--
Please give me date of death of John Grim, Pension claim S. 8628.
He was allowed pension on his application executed Feb. 5th, 1833, while living in Winchester, Virginia.

Respectfully, Mrs. C. W. Ritenour.

(stamp) PENSION OFFICE,
U.S.
R JUN 17 1927
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312 West Leicester ST.,
Winchester, Virginia,
Feby. 7th, 1927

Department of Interior,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

Gentlemen: - - 
Will you kindly give me all the information on record of John Grim of Frederick County, Va., age 80 years, who was pensioned as Virginia Militiaman in 1835, as described in enclosed record, (returned) and greatly oblige.

Yours very truly,
Mrs. D.W. Ritenour
Address: - - 
Mrs. D. W. Ritenour,
312 West Leicester St., 
Winchester, Va.

(stamp) PENSION OFFICE
U.S.
R
FEB 
8 
1927
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8628
Rev War
INVALID
File no. 8628
John Grim
priv. Rev. War
Act: June 7th, 1832
Index: - Vol. Set, Page 151
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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1927 Mar 29, Hist to Mrs. D.W. Ritenour CW
1927 - Nov. 10. Mrs. D.W. Ritenour ad. lever to get date of death CWF
1935 Jan. 7 Hist. to Mrs. Boyd Wees See her letter in John Head. S.29680, Rev. War Clm. ADY
1935 - May 28 - Hist to Bernard B. Bigelow
letter in case Peter Grim, S37963 EEh
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Winchester July 4, 1837

Dear Sir

I enclose to you the affidavits of John Grim, Peter County and Richard W. Barton, esq. respecting the loss of the Grims pension certificate which I trust will be sufficient to authorize you to renew it. Enclose the new certificate to me if you please.

I am, very respectfully,
Your m. Obt Servt

Lem Bent

J. L. Edwards Esq.
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Mr. John Grim in the winter of 1834.5 through a friend sent a power of attorney to Richard W. Barton esq. who was then a member of the legislature, at Richmond in order to get his pension, and at the same time, sent the original certificate to Mr. Barton, who left it with the other papers as he states in his affidavit which is enclosed. The original certificate is copied, was dated August 19, 1933 granting to John Grim a pension of Twenty three dollars and thirty three cents per annum. Mr. Grim wishes his certificate to be renewed. he has waited until Mr. Barton could go to Richmond and endeavor to obtain the original one. This he has done without success.
Mr. Grim therefore wishes a new certificate. Please to send it to me as soon as convenient.
Very respectfully your
Ms Obt Servt
Lem. Bent

J. L. Edwards esqr.
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(postmark) WINCHESTER VA. JUN 27

Free
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City

29 June Burdine
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John Grim    Pri.  $23.33 Pension - 7 June Virginia
sp to the 4th March 1835
JH
To which time were they last paid?
Pen Office
July 7, 37
R.B.
3 - Auditor
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Aug. 11
(postmark) RICHMOND VA AUG 9
Free
J. L. Edwards esq
Pension agent
Washington
Jh. Grim
Va. roll
No 16,441
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J. L. Edwards, esq
Com. of Pensions
Sir,
 John Grim claims which is for two years pension, is refused by the agent here. If you will please authorize the paperwork.

Respectfy (sic) yr: D
A Robinson [illegible]
Aug. 9, 1847
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(postmark) WINCHESTER, VA JUL 6

FREE

J. L. Edwards Esqr.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City.

July 7

Issue new certificate on the written by Nov 10
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$23.33 per ann
J. G. Bryce
(Present crossed out)
present
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Virginia
County of Frederick Ss
On this 3d day of July 1837, before me the subscriber, a justice of the peace for the said County of Frederick, ^personally appeared John Green, who on his oath declares, that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the company commanded by Captain Thruston, in the service of the United States, that the does not recollect the name of the Colonel of the Regiment, but remembers that Lord Sterling was the commanding General: That his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of Virginia, that he received a certificate of that fact under the signature and seal of the Secretary of War; (which is same crossed out) that late int he year 1834 the day of the month he does not recollect, at Winchester, he put the said certificate into the hands of his friend, Mr. Peter Coontz, with whom he resides, and who has attended to his business for some years, who informed him that he put (into crossed out) it into the hands of Richard W. Barton esq. then a member of the legislature for the purpose of drawing his pension - that Mr. Barton drew the pension due on the 4th of September 1834, and sent it to him the said John Grim, and that he has never seen the original certificate since, but has been informed that it has been lost or mislaid.
John Grim

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year first above written, the words "personally appeared" "that" and "it" being first interlined, before me

Robt Baldwin, J. P.
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Virginia
County of Frederick Ss.
On this 3rd day of July 1837, before me, the subscriber, a justice of the peace for the said County of Frederick personally appeared Peter Coontz, who on his oath declares that he has been well and intimately acquainted with John Grim long an inhabitant of Winchester, and knows that he is the identical person named in an original pension certificate granted to him, under the seal and signature of the Secretary of War, and dated at the War office of the United States the 19th day of August 1833 a copy of which is now in the possession of him, the said Peter Coontz - that late in the year, 1834 or beginning of the year 1835, the ^said John Grim who resides in affiant's house and who is very old and infirm, put into affiants hands the original pension certificate above mentioned, for the purpose of having the necessary papers prepared in order that Mr. Grim might draw his pension. Affiant took the certificate to an attorney who drew the necessary papers, which were duly executed by the said John Grim - that this affiant placed the said papers in the hands of Richard W. Barton esq. - a member of the Legislature of Virginia, who was then about to set out for Richmond, together with the original pension certificate that Mr. Grim afterwards received from Mr. Barton the amount of the pension due to him up to the 4th of September 1836. But the pension certificate has never been returned. Affiant has frequently applied to Mr. Barton for it, who has always replied that it was either lost or mislaid.         Peter Coontz
Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year first above written, and I do certify that the said Peter Coontz is a person of veracity.
Ro V Baldwin J.P.
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State of Virginia
Frederick County  Set
I Thomas Allen Tidball Clerk of the Court of the Said County of Frederick certify that Robert T. Baldwin is a Magistrate of the said County, and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name, this fourth day of July in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty seven

T. A. Tidball, Clerk
of Frederick County