Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 16,754, for Joel Tallmadge, New York
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Service                                               Number
New York       Tallmadge, Joel        W. 16754
Or   Talmadge,
                    Rhobe
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New York, (A.) 2,195.
Rhobe Tallmadge
Widow of Joel Tallmadge, deceased
who died on the 24th of January, 1832
of Tioga Co., in the State of New York
who was a private in the company commanded
by Captain van Ness, of the regmt. commanded by Col. Whiting, in the New York
line for 7 months and 19 days:
private NY

Inscribed in the roll of New York, Alby
at the rate of 25 Dollars 42Cents, per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834
25th of January 1834

Certificate of Pension issued the 13th day of July 1838, and sent to the [illegible]
N.T. Tallmadge, Poughkeepsie, NY

Arrears to the 4th of March 1838,          $106.11
Semi=annual allowance ending 4 Sep.-    12.71
                                                                      ———-
                                                                    $118.82
                                                           ——————
                                             {Revolutionary Claim,
                                               Act July 4, 1836,
                                               Section the 3 }
Recorded by     G. T. Rhodes  Clerk
Book  A.     Vol. 2,      Page 119
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Pension corrected as to the date
Of commencement of ret.
to Hon. NP Talmadge, Jan.
21,1839

Paid at the Treasury under the
Act of the 6th of April 1838 from
25 July 1834 to 4 March 1838
Agt notified 29 April 1839.

Duplicate certificate agreed
25 June 1840 an sent to Hon
N.P. Talmadge.  Senate U.S.

Letter to N.P. Talmadge  23 June 1840
Paid at the treasury under 
the Act of the 6th of April 1838
from 4 March to 4 Sep 1839. Agt
notified 19 Aug 1840

Paid as above from 4 Sep 1839
to 4 March 1840.  Agt notified
24 March 1841
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20266
New York 
Joel Talmadge
Tioga Co. in the State of N. York
who was a private in the Company commanded
by Captain Van Ness of the Reg. commanded 
by Col. Whiting in the N. York
line for 7 mos. 19 days
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Inscribed on the roll of N.York
at the rate of 25 Dollars 42 Cents per annum
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
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Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Aug.
1833            and [illegible] [illegible]
                                    Caudia
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Arrears to the 4th of Mar.  (illegible]                   $50.84
Sembant(?) allowance ending 4 Sep [illegible]. $12.71
                                                                                 ————
                                                                                 $63.55
                                                               {Revolutionary Claim}
                                                               {Ret.(?) June 7, 1832 }
Recorded by Rob. Stely
Book E.    Vol.  4.     Page 81
See letter to Wm. Bacon
Apr 2. ‘34
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1st Brief
                No. 10813.
Joel Tallmadge

Adend

17.7

23.33      /
   2.09     /
————  /       7 Dec 1832
25.42     /
                       D138.

Claimant
            Candia
                     N.Y.
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No. 10813
BRIEF in the case of Joel Tallmadge of Candor County of Tioga in the state of New York.
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?  In open court.
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
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3. How old is he?  75th year
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

 April 1st in 1776 - 2 months - private- Capt VanNess
May 2nd 1777 -2 months, 21 days- private- Col Whiting
Sept 25th 1777- 1 month, 21 days-substitute- Capt Horton
Sept 20th 1780 1 month, 7 days- private Genl VanRensalaer
total 7 months, 19 days

5. In what battles was he engaged?
Battle of Stillwater
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? nobletown, Columbia County N. York
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?
By traditionary evidence.
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
They appear to be in due form.
I certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
James Ord Examining clerk.
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State of New York 
County of Tioga } ss
Be it known that on this 18th day of June AD 1838 before me Samuel Burgoyne a Judge of the court of common pleas in and for the county aforesaid personally appeared Rhobe Tallmadge a resident of the town of Candor in the county and state aforesaid aged 76 years + ten months, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed July 4, 1836.
That she is the widow of Joel Tallmadge late of the town of Candor aforesaid, to whom was granted a pension certificate bearing the date of August 30. AD 1833, numbered 20366, entitling him to receive twenty five dollars and forty two cents per annum during his natural life, and who was a private in the Revolutionary Army, in the militia of the State of New York.
That she has been informed by her said husband + others + verily believes that he, then an apprentice, did enlist in in the New York State troops at Nobletown noc in the county of Columbia + state of New York on the 1st of April AD 1776 under Captain David VanNess, that he continued enlisted for two months, but never joined his company: that on the 1st of June following, a substitute was procured and he was discharged. 
2nd that she has been informed by her said husband and others and verily believes, that in the town of Claverack, in the said county of Columbia: on or about the 25th day of May 1777 he was drafted or did volunteer for three months in a company belonging to Col. Whiting's Regiment, but dies not know that the names of the other field officers were ever told her, of if told, they are forgotten; that he rendesvound (sic)at Greenbush opposite Albany N.Y. that he went from there to Fort Edward, that he lay there
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about two weeks, and from there he retreated down the Hudson River, near to Saratoga, when he was taken sick and discharged on or about the 15th day of August in the same year, heving served under this engagement for two months and three weeks. 
3. That she has been informed by her said husband and others and verily believes, that at the said town of Claverack on the 25th day of September in the said year 1777 he was drafted or else went as a substitute for some person to her unknown in Captain Horton's company, in which Jacob Bert was ensign, and that Major or Col. Henry VanRensalaer was a field officer in the Regiment that he marched immediately to Stillwater, was in the 2nd battle at that place, that the enemy retreated to Saratoga he followed them and encamped on the south side of Fish creek and remained there till the capitulation of Gen. Burgoyne on the 17th day of Oct in the same year. Soon after which he returned to Albany + from there to New Windsor, where he was discharged on the 11th of Nov of the same year, and that he served under this engagement between six and seven weeks. 
4th That after her marriage with her said husband living with him, in the said town of Claverack;
in consequence of an alarm occasioned by an inruption of the Indians, British and Tories into the valley of the Mohawk River; her said husband did, on the 20th day of September AD 1780 volunteer a private under Gen. Robert VanRensalaer, but the names of the company and Regimental officers were unknown to her, or if known all now forgotten, and that he returned on the 27th day of October of the same year having been absent on service; on this tour five weeks; and that
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She has been informed by her said husband and others and verily believes, that after he left his house on the said 20th of Sept 1780. he proceeded directly to Albany from there to Schenectady and up the Mohawk River following the retreat of Brandt + Butler to Fort Plain, from near which he returned home. 
That her said husband never had to her knowledge any written discharge for any period of his services; or any documentary evidence whatever; neither is there any person, now living, according to her knowledge or belief, who could testify to the facts set forth in the foregoing declaration.
And she further declares that she (her name being then Rhobe Potter) was married to the said Joel Tallmadge in the town of Nobletown in the now county of Columbia aforesaid two miles from the house of her father, at the house of his father by a Mr Clark a Presbyterian clergyman, on the twenty first day of October, in the year seventeen hundred and seventy nine, that according to the best of her knowledge and belief there is no person now living who was present at her marriage and that the only documentary evidence of the time or legality of her marriage is contained in the record of her family bible, by an entry in the handwriting of her said husband made many years since; an extract from which, duly attested, herewith acompanying (sic). And that her husband the aforesaid Joel Tallmadge died on the twenty sixth day of January eighteen hundred and thirty four and that she has remained a widow ever since that period as will more fully appear by proof hereunto annexed.
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And she further declares that she has no documentary evidence of support of her claim except the aforementioned pension certificate which is not now in her possession, but was sent with her affidavits, and power of Attorney to obtain the arrears due on the pension of her said husband.
Rhobe Tallmadge
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written before me
Sml Baragar Judge T.G
Tioga County Cour. Pleas
I certify that the above named Rhobe Tallmadge is a credible person, + that the figure 6 in the 5th line of the first page was written on an erasure and that the said Rhobe cannot from bodily infirmity attend court. Saml Baragar Judge + C.
State of New York County of Tioga }
Be it known that on the 18th day of June AD 1838 before me Samuel Baragar a judge of the court of common pleas in and for said county personally appeared John Elwell who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath depose and say that the above named Joel Tallmadge dcsd at the house of this deponent in the town of Candor in the county of Tioga aforesaid on the twenty sixth day of January eighteen hundred and thirty four, and that the above named Rhobe has remained ever since a widow. John Elwell 
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year above written, before me
Saml. Baragar judge T.C
Tioga county com. Pleas
I certify the above named John Elwell to be a credible person and that on the first page of the foregoing declaration of Rhobe Tallmadge the words "appeared" + "April" were written on the margin + the words "per annum" were interlined before the said declaration was named   Saml Baragar Judge
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State of New York
Tioga County } ss
Be it known that on the 18th day of June AD 1838 before me Samuel Baragar a judge of the court of common pleas in and for said county personally appeared Joel Tallmadge who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath depose and say that he is Forty nine years of age' that he is the son of above named Joel Tallmadge that the said Joel Tallmadge Senior died in the town of Candor on the twenty sixth day of January eighteen hundred and thirty four; and that the above named Rhobe Tallmadge has ever since remained, and is now a widow. 
And the said deponent further saith; that there in now in the possession of the said Rhobe a family bible, in which there is a record of the time of the marriage of the said Joel to the said Rhobe and of the births of their children, that the said record is in the hand writing of the said Joel Senior. That the record relating to the marriage is in these records vis:
Joel Tallmadge and Rhobe Potter was married on Thursday the 21st (twenty first) October 1779 ( seventeen hundred + seventy nine)
The date being in figures and the words included in bracketts not being in the record; and that he has seen the above record in the aforementioned family bible for more than thirty years; and that the said Joel senior + the said Rhobe lived together as husband + wife from his earliest recollection till the time of the said husband's death as before mentioned. Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year first above written before me
Joel Tallmadge
Saml Baragar judge tc
Tioga county com. pleas
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I certify that the foregoing Joel Tallmadge who has sworn to and subscribed the foregoing affidavit is a credible person and that the word " siath" after twenty in the three places where it occurs and the words " at the house of his father" on the third page was written on and erasure before signing 
Saml Baragar Judge T.C

State of New York County of Tioga} ss
David Wallis
Clerk of the court of Common Pleas in and for the county aforesaid, do certify that Samuel Baragar before whom the foregoing instruments purport to have been executed, was at the date of the same a judge of the court of common pleas in and for said county. duly commissioned and sworn. And that I am acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe his name subscribed to said instruments to be his proper handwriting + signature.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand + affixed my seal of office this 18th day of June AD 1838
David Wallis clerk
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[left side]
Joel Tallmadge esq
10.815 declaration
Answer may be sent to 
William Bacon
Candor N.Y.
This is returned corrected according to brief. 
The applicant was of opinion that the certificate of David Woodcock Esq ( who is a person of some consequence formerly a member of congress and is certified to the first application so would carry more weight that any person in this town. 
This applicant is the father of the Hon. N.P. Tallmadge who F Senator from this state.
The brief was dated the 7 of Dec last and the letter mailed, 4th of May
 [right side]
Will it be convenient to make returns to me soon
Wm Bacon
Aomd
7 mo. 19th pri
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Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of Act of Congress passed June 7 AD 1832
State of New York
County of Tioga} 
On this fifth day of September  AD 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the court of common pleas for said county now sitting, Joel Tallmadge a resident of the town of Candor in the county of Tioga + State of New York aged seventy five years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. 
That on or about the 1st day of April 1776 he was living an apprentice at Nobletown now Columbia county N.Y. and at said time and place he enlisted a private in the New York state troops for nine months in Capt Van Ness' company whose first name he thinks was David; than on or about the 1st day of June of the same year his friends informed him that they had perceived a substitute for him and he was discharged that he did not join the company's that the company did not meet to his knowledge; while he was bound to military service; and that he knew no other officer than the Captain. having served two months 2nd tour. That on or about the 20th day of May AD 1777 in the town of Claverack in now Columbia  County N.Y. he was drafted or he volunteered (forgets which) in the New York militial in Col. Whiting's Regiment ( who is the only officer wither of the company or regt that he can now recollect) for three months. that he immediately rendesvoued (sic) at Green Buchs that they marched from there to Fort Edward lay there about 2 weeks while there he remembers that Gen. Ten Broeck was pointed out to him + he thinks Gen Sullivan Schuyler was also. does not remember any other continental officer; That he retreated with the Regt slowly down the Hudson River before the enemy to near Saratoga, where he was taken sick and discharged on or near the 15th day of August. having served this tour two months and three weeks.
3d tour That on or near the 25th day of September 1777. in the said town of Claverack he joined Capt Horton's company of New York militia as a substitute, the Lieut's name he has forgotten, Insign (sic) Jacob Bert Henry Van Rensalaer was either a Major or Col. of Regt and Doct Monnell the surgeon marched immediately to stillwater and was present in the action at that place on the 7th of October; that he pursued the enemy from there to
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to Saratoga and encamped on the south side of Fish creek the enemy on north sides; where he remained till the capitulation of Burgoyne's army. From thence he marched to Albany; from thence down the Hudson to New Windsor, at which place he was discharged on or about the 13th day of November having served this tour seven weeks.
4th Four. That on or about the 20th day of September AD 1780 in the said town of Claverack he volunteered on the occasion of an alarm by Brandt + Butler on the Mohawk River under the command of Gen Robt Van Rensalaer; the company and field officers names he cannot now recollect; that he made the expedition on horseback; went to Albany; from thence up the Mohawk River about 60 miles; from thence left the River and went in pursuit of the Indians in the direction of Otsego lake something more than twenty miles; made some prisoners which were taken to Albany he returned to Fort Plain + staid (sic) there till he was discharged on or about the 27th of Oct, having served this tour five weeks. That he never had any written discharge and that he knows of no person where testimony he can procur, who can testify to his service. That he has always been informed and verily believes that he was born on the 25th day of Nov AD 1756 in the great nine partner in Dutchess county N.Y. that he has in his possession a small book covered with parchment containing a record of his age and of his brothers and sisters which he knows to be in the hand writing of his father; That since the Revolutionary war he has resided first in the county of Columbia N.Y. then in the town of Schaghticoke in the county of Ransalaer (sic) N.Y. where he now resides. And that he verily believes that this declaration is the best evidence of which his can admit.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll  of the Agency of any state.
Joel Tallmadge
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year first above written
Green M Tuthill clk
W Simeon B Jones a clergyman residing in the town of Southport in said county and David Woodcock residing in the town of Ithica (sic) in count Kings
hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with Joel Tallmadge Esq who has subscribed and sworn to
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the above declaration, that we believe him to be seventy five years of age , that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resided, to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion Simeon R. Jones
D Woodcock
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid Green M Tuthill clk
and the said court do hereby declare then opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the was Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the court further certifies that it appears to them that Simeon R. Jones who has signed the preceeding certificate is a clergyman resident in the town of Southport Tioga county N.Y. and is a credible person and that David Woodcock who has also signed the same is a resident in the town of Ithaca Tompkins Co. and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
GB Baldwin first Judge
I Green M Tuthill clerk of the court of common pleas in the county of Tioga NY, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court, in the matter of the application of Joel Tallmadge for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand 
+ seal of office this fifth day of September AD 1832
Green M Tuthill clk

Tioga county 
State of New York} ss I certify that on the 15th day of May AD 1833 before me William Bacon a Commissioner of Deeds in and for said county personally appeared Joel Tallmadge who has sworn to and subscribed the foregoing declaration who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath before and say  that he is well acquainted with the Rev. Jeremiah Osborn and John B. Bacon each of the town of Candor in the the county aforesaid, and that he refers to them
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as certifiers of is general reputation and of the traditionary evidence of his revolutionary services 
Joel Tallmadge
Sworn to and subscribed this 15th day of May AD 1833 before me William Bacon Com of Deeds}
We Jeremiah Osborn a clergyman residing in the town of Candor aforesaid, and John B. Bacon residing in the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joel Tallmadge Esq who has sworn to and subscribed the preceeding declaration + affidavit, that we believe he was at the time the said declaration was dated of the age of seventy five years, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion
Jeremiah Osborn
John B. Bacon
Sworn to and subscribed this 15th day of May 1833 before me William Bacon
Comm of Deeds for the county of Tioga}
I certify that(sic) Jeremiah Osborn who has signed the preceeding certificate is a clergyman resident in town of Candor aforesaid, and that John B. Bacon who has also signed the same is a resident in the same town of Candor and is a credible person, and that their Statement is entitled to credit
William Bacon Comm of Deeds TC
State of New York County of Tioga ss I Green M Tuthill clerk of the said county do certify that William Bacon Esq before whom the preceeding affidavits purports to have been sworn and certificate given was at the date of the same a commissioner of Deeds in and for said county; and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavits and certificate, to be his proper hand writing and signature witness my hand and seal fo office this 16th day of May AD 1833 
Green M Tuthill clk
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See his (g.s.y.) letter in claim of ElishaTallmadge in which he states John was the brother of Elisha
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toga, Saratoga County; Schaghticoke, Reneselaer County, and in Tioga County, all in New York State.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 5, 1832, while a resident of Candor, Tioga County, New York.

He died January 24 or January 26, 1834, at the home of John Elwell, in Candor, New York. it is not stated that John Elwell was related to the family. 

Joel Tallmadge married October 21, 1779, at the home of his father (name not given) in Nobletown, New York, Rhobe Potter of that place. She was allowed pension on her application executed June 18, 1838, at which time she was aged seventy-six years and ten months and resided in Candor, New York.

Their son, N. P. Tallmadge, was United States Senator from New York in 1833 and 1840; and another son, Joel Tallmadge was aged forty-nine years in 1838.

No charge is made for this service, and the amount of your remittance, $1.00 (one dollar) will be refunded to you in due time.

Very truly yours,
EARL D. CHURCH
Commissioner.
Widow's death not on Agency Book
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[Left Side]
The envelop no. 20.36 was sent to Doctor Cm division about 20a. Dec and has been mislaid.
Jany 3d. 1833 dup. issue in this case the original never having been read by Mrs Tallmadge. see let with in sent on the 8th Jany
Apr 30 '34 Certificate retd to this office as dead letter
Let. to Hon. N. P. Talmadge 
March 8, 1838
same Mar. 19, 1838
some of 3 auditor 4 June 1838
Dead- Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 6 April 1838. from 4 March 1831 to the 24 Jany 1834 the day of said Pensioners deatH Agent notified 18 June 1838

[Right side]
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 25 Dollars 42 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 day of Augt 1833- and 
Arrears to the 4th of Semi-anl. allowance ending

  { Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 }
Recorded by Recording Clerk, Book E Vol. 4 Page 81
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3633 New York
Rhobe Tallmadge
widow of Joel T. 
Application for 
Pension

sill the commissioner of Pensions please make returns on this application to 
William Bacon
Ithaca Tompkins Co.  N.Y.
Admd
7 mo 19.ds pri
25.42
deduct- died on 24 Jany 1834. pension to commence 25 Jany 1834
Hon. N. P. Tallmadge
Paighkeisson N. Y.
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Senate Chamber
March 7th 1838.
J.L. Edwards Esq
Coms. of Pensions.
I beg to ask information on the following points.
Joel Tallmadge had a pension granted him in 1833 or 1834. The first certificate from the Pension office having been mis-sent or miscarried in the mail, a duplicate was granted in 1834. and delivered to me. J. Tallmadge died soon after towit on the 26th day of January 1834. The certificate was never delivered to him and no money was ever drawn on it. I have made search for the certificate amoungst such papers as I have access to and do not find it. It seems to be mislaid. J. Tallmadge left a widow Roby Tallmadge who is still living. She was married to J.T. the 21st Oct 1779.
1st Is the widow entitled to the Pension of her husband to the time of his death?
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2d When did his Pension commence, and how much per annum was he entitled to receive?
3d What is requisite for the widow to obtain the pension?
4th She resided in the town of Candor, county of Tioga and state of New York, where is the money to be drawn, and who is the pension agent for that part of the state?
5th Is the widow entitled  to a pension, as widow?
6th If so, from which time, and how much per annum?
7th If entitled, how to be obtained?
I presume I have made inquiried above which ar familiar to most persons, but which I trust you will pardon me for making. 
very respectfully
N. P. Tallmadge
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J. L. Edwards Esq
Comr. of Pensions
Sir, I enclose papers in relation to the pension of my mother, the widow of Joel Tallmadge deceased. There is a sworn copy of the marriage from the family record, which, as i understand from you, was required. 
I shall remain in the city for two or three days, and will call and see you on this matter before I have, and hope you may be able to arrange it by the time I call. very respectfully yrs
N. P. Tallmadge
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The sale which requires the production of the original record of marriage may in my opinion be safely dispensed with in this case. 
J. L. Edwards 
July 12. 1838
rule dispensed with as recommended above 
J. B. P.
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Hon N. P. Tallmadge
Senator NY
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State of New York
Tioga County} Ss. 
On the ninth day of June A.D. 1840 before me Samuel Baragar a judge of the court of Common  Pleas in + for said county personally cause of Rhobe Tallmadge and made oath in due form of Law, that she is entitled to a pension of twenty five 42/100 dollars per anum on account of services rendered by her late husband Joel Tallmadge deceased in the army of the revolution, and that she received a Pension certificate for the same, but it is lost or mislaid and cannot be found, and that she has not received any payment on said certificate since Sept. 4th 1838, + further saith not. 
Rhobe Tallmadge
Sworn + subscribed this 9th day of June 1840 before me Saml Baragar judge TC
Tioga Co.
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June 22. 1840
Mr Evans
Free
J. L. Edwards Esq
Comr. of Pensions
Washington
Hon. N. P. Tallmadge
Senate US.
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Washington, June 20th 1840
J.L. Edwards Esq
Comr of Pensions. 
Sir, I enclose you the affdt (abbr.)of Rhobe Tallmadge showing the loss of a pension certificate. You will much oblige me if you will have a duplicate issued, and inform me where she must apply for the arrears.
very respectfully
your hob. servt.
N. P. Tallmadge
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Hon N. P. Tallmadge
Rec'd June 21 1839
Ans'd same day 
Respectfully sent to the Com'r of Pensions 
+ Mr. T. or informant
Peter Hagner Esq
third auditor 
Washington City
Tree N. P. Tallmadge
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Washington, Janry 19th 1839
Peter Hagner Esq
3d Auditor
Dr. Sir.
The enclosed pension certificate has been sent to me on account of an alleged mistake in the time when the pension was to commence. 
I received an amount which the records of your office will show, and which I now do not recollect. but from that you will be able to discover any error and correct it accordingly.
very respectfully
your Obd't Servt
N. P. Tallmadge
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
Second Comptroller's Office, 
April 13th, 1839.
Sir: Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838 entitled " An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Rhobe Tallmadge,-
a Pensioner on the Roll of the Albany N.York, Agency, at the rate of Twenty five Dollars and forty two cents per annum, under the law of the 4th July 1836, has been paid at this Department, from the 25th of January 1834. to the 4th March, 1838.
Respectfully, yours, 
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller,
To the Commissioner of Pensions
Present.
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Treasury Department,
Second Comptroller's Office,
June 15, 1838.
Sir. Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States, The widow of Joel Talmadge, a Pensioner on the Roll of the Albany Agency, at the rate of twenty five Dollars and forty two cents per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832 has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of March 1831 to the 24th of January 1834, the day of said pensioner's death. 
Respectfully, yours,
Albion K. Parris
Comptrollers

To the COMMISSIONER OF PENSIONS, 
Present.
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J. L. Edwards Esq
Court of Pensions
Pension Office
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Senate Chamber
March 19th 1838.
J.L. Edwards Esq
Court of Pensions
Dr. Sir.
Your answers to my enquiries were duly received together with the necessary forms for my guidance in the case of the widow of Joel Tallmadge.
The duplicate certificate which was sent to me has been lost or mislaid. I am not able to find it. As the original has been returned to your office, if you will please to sent it to me in the place of the duplicate mislaid, it will enable me to take the necessary steps to get the amt due the widow, nothing having been drawn on it. 
very respectfully
N.P. Tallmadge
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Second Comptroller's Office, 
February 27th, 1841.
Sir:  Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of miney remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Rhobe Tallmadge, a Pensioner on the Roll of the Albany, NY, Agency, at the rate of Twenty five Dollars and forty two cents per annum, under the law of the 4th July 1836, has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of Sept. 1839. to the 4th March 1840
Respectfully yours, 
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller. 
To the Commissioner of Pensions, 
Present.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Second Comptroller's Office, 
July 28th, 1840.
Sir: Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled " An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Rhobe Tallmadge, a Pensioner on the Roll of the Albany, N.Y. Agency, at the rate of Twenty five Dollars and forty two cents per annum, under the law of the 4th July 1836, has been paid at this DEpartment, from the 4th of March. to the 4th Sept, 1839.
Respectfully yours, 
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.
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NY
Joel Tallmadge pri 25.42/100 per anm. when last pd?
GWC
March 7 1838
She does not appear to have received any payment.
3 Aud. office
7 March 1838
AS Ayles
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No 10815
BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Joel Tallmadge which require further proof or explanantion.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides:
Yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?
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XI. Has the applicant a=obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?    Yes
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assighned for not obtaining it?     [blank]
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?   Yes
XIV. If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? [blank]
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office?  [blank]

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, of of such an age,  as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? [blank]
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?   Yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?  No
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Mr Stewart will
give a duplicate 
pension certificate

J.L. Edwards Esq
Coms Pensions 
Washington City
Hon N. P. Tallmadge
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Washington City Dec 30th 1833
J.L. Edwards Esq.
Com of Pensions.  N.Y. 20.366 $25.42 per anm 30 Augt 1833.
Sir  I have your note of the 28th list saying you would issue a duplicate pension certificate for Joel Tallmadge, on my certifying that he had not received the certificate.
I received a letter from him since the commencement of the present session of Congress, say that his papers, some three months previous, were returned to him for some correction. That the correction was made and the papers again sent to the pension office, since which time nothing had been heard from then.
This is the substance of the information I have on the subject, and which I have no doubt is strictly correct. I have no hesitation, therefore, in saying, that I believe that the pension certificate has never been received by Joel Tallmadge, and that the same, if issued, as I am informed it was, has been misdirected or misplaced in the mail. Under this impression I hope a duplicate may be issued. 
very respectfully
N.P. Tallman
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Rev WIDOW, & c.
File No. 16,754
Rhobe Tallmadge
widow of Joel Tallmadge 
Pri Rev War
Act July 4th 36
Index: Vol. M, Page 265

June 30-1903 His to 
Mrs Jermi B. Knapp
Sayre 
929-Nov 6- Hist to grant S. humans, + he was adv.
remittance of $1 would refunded. M. E.E.
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Sayre, Pennsylvania
June 23, 1903.
Has there ever been a Revolutionary pension granted to Rhoda Tallmadge wife of Joel Tallmadge of Columbia County New York, of Duchess Co. N.Y.
Mrs. Jerome B. Knapp
Sayre, Bradford Co.
Pennsylvania
River Edge Farm
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Typed letter
only script transcribed
Cash $1.00

G Youmans
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typed stamp
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16754
Bureau of Pensions
Joel Tallmadge
Sept 5, 1832
Candor N.Y. - 75
Apl 1 76 Nobletown N.Y.
Capt VanNess
Col, Pub JM

May 77 Apr
Col Whiting
Pvt 23/4 m
Sept 77 Capt Horton
Col Van Rensselaer
Pvt 9wks
Stillwater Oct. 7. 77
Sept 80 Apr
Col
Pvt 5 wks

Born Nov. 25, 1756
Nine Partners N.Y.
Mar Rhoda Patten
Oct 21 1779 Nobletown N.Y.
A. Jany 26, 1834 (26)