Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 1,752, Charles Carter, N.C. Originally Of N.C.
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N.C.

Carter, Charles
Carter, Lydia

R. 1732
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State of South Carolina
Edgefield District

On the first day of November in the
year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred
and thirty two, personally appeared in
open Court before me Richard Gautt
one of the Judges of the States, were sitting
in and for the District aforesaid Charles
Carter Lieut., a resident of the District and
State aforesaid, aged seventy years on the
January last past, who being first
duly sworn, according to law, doth on his
oath make the following declaration
in order to obtain the benefit of the act
of Congress, passed the seventh day of
June 1832. That in the summer of 17__
he was called out at various times in
short tours of duty in opposition to the Tories--
In the first tour of service he went under
the command of Capt. Joseph Sharp, who
commanded a militia company attached
to the Regiment of Col. Locke, in pursuit
of Genl. Briant there at the head of a body
of Tories--They went in pursuit for several
days but being unable to overtake them
enemy. he returned to Salisbury and
was discharged on the furlow by Col. Locke:
The Deponent further states that in October
17__ at the Town of Halifax North 
Carolina he attached himself to the
continental Service under the Command of
Capt. Davis, with whom he remained for some
short time-- Major Hogg was also in command from
whom I rec'd occasional furlows for that period
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From this place he was sent and in the command
of Lieut. Abner Lamb, who marched to Georgetown
in So. Carolina, where he was placed
under the command of Major Eggleston--
After remining at this place for four or
five weeks, he made applications to Major
Eggleston for leave to join the main army
under Genl. Green, there stationed on
James Island near the City of Charleston.
Having obtained leave he marched to
James Island & reported himself to
Col. Lightly, who attached him into an
infantry company from No. Carolina, 
commanded by Robt. Raiford Capt. and 
Jos. Campaign as Lieutenant-- the Sergeant
Major was called Jas. Bynum.
He would also state that Genl. Gist, Col. 
Carter & Capt. Carter were among the officers
on the Island at the time. From the time
he joined the continental service at Halifax
to the dates of his discharge was to the best
of his recollection about eleven months.
The deponent feels well assured that if the
different periods of actual service rendered
by him in short expeditions after the Tories to
his term in the continental Army were added
together they would amount to at least one
year or more. He has no written or documentary
evidence, on which to rely for their verification.
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able to produce a living witness to testify to his
services--

Charles   Carter
        his X mark

Sworn to before 
Richard Gautt
D. Judge


We Thomas Scurry Sen. & Daniel Rogers residing in the 
District of Edgefield South Carolina do hereby certify
that we are well acquainted with Charles Carter
who has subscribed and scorn to the above declaration
that we believe him to be seventy years
of age that he is reputed and believed in the 
neighbourhood where he has resided many years
to have been a soldier of the Revolution &  that
we concur in the opinion.

Thos. Scurry Esq.
Daniel Rogers

Sworn to before me the day and year aforesaid
A.B. Addison D.Clk

And the said Court do hereby certify & declare their
opinion after the investigation of the matter and after
putting the interrogatories produced by the War Dept.
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I Jefferson Richardson Clerk of the Court of the
Common Pleas do hereby certify that the foregoing
contains the original proceedings of the said Court
in the matter of the applicant of Charles Carter
for a pension.
     In testimony whereof I have hereunto set 
my hand & seal of office this first day of 
November A.D. 1832

J. Richardson
Clerk.
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South Carolina
Edgefield District

               On this 25 day of April
A.D. 1853, before me Lewis Culbreath a Magistrate
for the District and State aforesaid, personally
came, Lydia Carter, aged Eighty five years,
a resident of the District and States aforesaid,
who being duly sworn according to
law, declares upon oath, that she is the
Widow of Charles Carter Dec'd, who was a
soldier in the war of the American Revolution
that her husband aforesaid did apply for
a Pension, to the Government of the United 
States, during his lifetime; but that his 
application was rejected on account of some
defect in the evidence or proof. That this
deponent remembers well the difficulty,
her husband aforesaid labored under
in getting the necessary evidence; and this
deponent can truly say, that the fact
of there being any record evidence of his
(Charles
Carter, her husband Dec'd aforesaid)
Revolutionary soldier, in any of
the offices of North Carolina or elsewhere,
at the period of any former adjudication
of his claims, or at the state of any application
he Charles Carter had made, nor
does this deponent believe that her 
husband aforesaid, knew that it was at
all necessary to present or furnish record
evidence, in order to establish his claim.

Lydia   Carter
    her X mark

Witness D. Wate

Sworn to and subscribed before me, the 
day and year above written

Lewis Culbreath Magt.
Edgefield District
So. Carolina
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South Carolina
Edgefield District

               I Thos. G Bacon, Clerk of
the Court of C.P. & Q.S for the District and State
aforesaid do hereby certify that Lewis Culbreath
Esqr. before whom the within official
witnesses made, and whose genuine signature
is present officially subscribed, was at the
date present, a Magistrate for the District and
State aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn.
     In testimony whereof, thereunto set my
hand and affix my seal of office as
clerk for said district, this Fourth day of
May A.D. 1853.

Tho. G. Bacon
Clerk. C.C. P.
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South Carolina
Edgefield District


               I Henry T. Wright, Judge of the Court
of Ordinary for the District and States aforesaid, do hereby
certify that I have satisfactory evidence, viz. the statement
of Mary Coleman now a resident of Lauderdale County
Mississippi, but until within the last few years a 
resident of the District of Edgefield and State of South
Carolina, aged about seventy five (75) years, that
Charles Carter who was the Husband of Lydia Carter
who had applied for a Pension from the Government of
the United States was married to the said Lydia Carter,
whose maiden name was Lydia Scurry in Newberry
District in the State of South Carolina some time
in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty
six, seven or eight; that the deponent was personally
present and saw the above named parties married
in due form of law, but she cannot speak as to the
precise date of the marriage, but she is positively
certain that they were married previously to the
year one thousand seven hundred and ninety
and I am further satisfied from the statement of the said
Mary Coleman that Charles Carter Deceased, the husband
of the aforesaid Lydia was a soldier in the American Army
in the War of the American Revolution, as she knew him
at a very early age, and always had the reputation among
those who were known, to have served in the War aforesaid,
of having been a soldier in said War and served in 
North Carolina and afterward came to South Carolina
where his term of service expired and he always had the
reputation of having served for twelve months.
     The testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and
affixed my seal of office as Judge of the Court of Ordinary 
for the District and State aforesaid this tenth day of
February in the year one thousand eight hundred
and fifty five and Thereby certify that Mary
Coleman is well known to me, and that she is in every 
way entitled to credit.

H. T. Wright
Ordinary Judge
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Charles Carter by way of amendment to his declaration
made on the first day of November last, before the
Honbl. Richard Gautt, the Residing Judge of the Court
of Common Pleas, then sitting for the District of Edgefield
submit the following--

So. Carolina
Edgefield District

          Personally appeared before me
Allen B. Addison a justice of the Peace for
the District & State aforesaid, Charles 
Carter, who being duly sworn, deposeth & saith, that by
reason of old age and the lapse of time, he cannot swear
positively as to the precise length of his service, but according
to the best of his recollection he served not less
then the periods mentioned below and in the following
grades, to wit, under Capt. Sharp in excursions against
the Tories from eight to ten days, as a private; I also served
as one of a guard under Job Cole, a Sergeant, to conduct
some prisoners to Salisbury in No. Carolina, which
service I was employed from 8 to 10 days; He also
served two weeks under Capt. Jos. Sharp at Salisbury, as a
private where his company was stationed. The deponent is unable 
to be more particular or definite as to the time for which
he served in the Continental Service that what is
stated in his declaration aforesaid but he is willing to 
qualify as he here does upon memory, that the time was eleven
months or there about and for the foregoing services he asks
for a pension.

Charles   Carter
        his X mark

Sworn to 9th April 1833
before me

A.B. Addison 
Q.C.

I Jones Coleman a clergyman and resident of the 
District of Edgefield and a neighbor of Charles Carter

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a revolutionary Soldier.

Jones W. Coleman

Given under my hand at Edgefield Court house the ninth April Anno Domini
1833
Sworn to before m
A.B. Addison
Q.M.

We, Larkin Griffin & William Mays Senr. Residing in the
District of Edgefield & State of South Carolina do hereby
certify that we are well acquainted with Charles Carter
who has subscribed and sworn to the within 
declarations that we believe him to be seventy years of age
that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood
where he has resided many years to have been a
Soldier of the Revolution & that we concur in
that opinion.

Larkin Griffin
Wm May Senr.

Sworn to before me the day and year above written.
A.B. Addison
Q.M.

And the said Court do hereby certify and declare
their opinion after the due & proper investigation
of the provided and after putting the Interrogatories
prescribed by the war department that the above
name applicant was a revolutionary Soldier

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I Jefferson Richardson Clerk of the Court of Common
Pleas for the District of Edgefield do hereby certify that the
foregoing contains the amended proceedings of the said
Court in the matter of the application of Charles Carter
for a pension.
          In testimony whereof I have hereunto set
my hand & seal of Office this 10 day of April 1831

J. Richardson
C.Ck.
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South Carolina
Edgefield District

                            On this sixth
day of March one thousand eight
hundred and fifty four before
me Henry T. Wright Judge of the
Court of Ordinary for the District
and State aforesaid personally
came Jones W. Coleman aged sixty
three years, a resident of the 
District and State aforesaid, who
being duly sworn according to
law declares upon oath that he
is a preacher of the Gospel of the
Baptist Denomination and has
been since for twenty years; that 
he was well acquainted personally
with Charles Carter Dec'd.,
who is said to have been a soldier
in the North Carolina troops
in the War of the American
Revolution; that he became
acquainted with said Charles Carter
previously to the year 1800; that
it was then said of him and believed
by every one who knew him
personally, that the said Charles
Carter did serve in the War
aforesaid, and that this was 
never questioned, that this deponent
is well assured in the fact that
said Deceased came originally
from the state of North Carolina,
and he is clearly of the belief that
he was from that section of
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the State of North Carolina, in which
Halifax is situated; that this deponent
is well satisfied rom tradition and
after circumstances, that the said
Charles Carter was actually a
Revolutionary soldier, that this
deponent was also well acquainted
with William Carter for many 
years, who was an older Brother
of the said Charles Dec'd; that from
his intimate acquaintance with
the said William, and from 
his personal knowledge of his
good character and conduct; he
is satisfied from the account
the said William has frequently
given this deponent, of the history
of Charles Carter Dec'd, his
Brother aforesaid; he is entirely
satisfied that the said Charles did
serve as alleged in his declaration
for Pension; that the said
William Carter has frequently
spoken to this deponent concerning
the Revolutionary service
of his said Brother Charles; that
this deponent well knows the
fact that the said Charles
Carter did live with his
wife Lydia up to the day of 
his death; that they actually lived
together as Husband and wife
from the time this deponent
made the acquaintance of the
said Charles, and were always
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so considered; that they had
eight or ten children by their
marriage; that the eldest one of the said
children is about the age of this
deponent which circumstance
enables this deponent to fix the
date of the marriage of said 
parties anterior from the year one
thousand seven hundred and
ninety (1790); and deponent
further stats that he is 
disinterested.

J.W. Coleman

Sworn to and subscribed before me
the day and year within written; and
I hereby certify that Jones W. Coleman
the deponent in the above case is
personally well known to me; that 
he is a Preacher of the Gospel and
has been such for many years, and
is of good standing; that he is in 
every way entitled to credit; and
that he is about the age stated in
the foregoing affidavit.
                     In Testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my 
hand ad affixed my seal
of office

Henry T. Wright
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Revolutionary Pension
Claim of
Lydia Carter
Widow of Chas.
Carter dec'd. of
So. Carolina

Power of Attorney
from the former
To
M. Thompson
Filed Nov. 8 1852
Papers Cald. for

M.Cole
Dec. 20 1852
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Know all men by these Presents,
                                That I,
Lydia Carter of the District of
Edgefield, and State of South Carolina, do
by these presents, make, constitute
and appoint M. Thompson of the
City of Washington, my true and
Lawful Attorney, for me, and in
my name, to demand and receive
of the Government of the
United States, the certificate of 
Pension, to which I  may be entitled,
as the Widow of Charles Carter dec'd.
who was a                      in the 
company commanded by Capt.   
and in the                   Regiment of
                commanded by Col.
                 in the War of the 
American Revolution, to prosecute any
claim I may have against the 
Government, for Pension, increase of
Pension, arrearages of Pension, arrearages
of Pay, under any Act or Acts
of Congress heretofore passed; to examine
all papers on file; and do every
other act, that I might or could do,
were I personally present, and
acting for myself, provided my attorney
aforesaid, has the certification
certificates which may be issued in my
favor payable to me.
     Given under my hand and seal
this      day of              A.D.

Lydia   Carter   [Seal]
  her  X mark

In presence of
P.R. Blalock
A.M. Perrin
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Washington January 12 1833
Hon. Jas. E. Heath
Commissioner of Pensions

Sir

I herewith enclose
the certificate of the comptroller
Genl. of N.C. showing
the revolutionary Service
of Charles Carter, of So.
Car. Which supercedes
the necessity of further
"proof of service by credible
Witnesses." & establishes
the claim to a pension.
          I have the honor & be
M. Thompson
Attney. for Carter
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State of North Carolina
Comptroller Office

I, William J. Clarke, comptroller of public accounts in
and for the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that it
appears of record in my office, among the payments made
by said State to sundry persons for Military service in
the Revolutionary War, as follows, to wit:
     Charles Carter
Indent or Army certificate No. 807 issued by the Auditor
of Hillsborough District June 10th 1780 for L9S2 specie
C. Carter, Book No. 8 page 43 L 14 S 17 specie.

               In testimony whereof I have hereunto
subscribed my name and affixed my
seal of office this 8th day of January A.D.1853.

Wm J. Clarke    Compt'r
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A. Perrin

April 5 1854
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Pension Office
April 5, 1854

Sir

The affidavit of J.W. Coleman, filed in
support of the case of Lydia Carter widow
of Charles of S.C. Act July 7 1838 is not
sufficient to fix the date of her marriage
nor to show any service performed by her
husband. He was not born until long
after the War of the Revolution, nor until
after the alledged date of her marriage.


A Perrin Esq.

Edgefield C.H.
So. Ca.
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Hon. F.W. Pickins
June 22 1838
J.C.
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Department of War
Pension Office
June 22 1838

Sir

I return herewith the letter of Mr. Griffin
upon the subject of the claim of Charles Carter, and
have to state, that the claim was presented
at the Office for Allowance in the year 1833,
but for want of satisfactory proof of service,
was disallowed the papers subsequently returned
to J. Richardson Esq. of Edgefield. The same
papers are now presented again, unaccompanied
by the required proof, No further action can
be had upon the claim until the alleged service
shall be substantiated by the testimony of credible
witnesses
The papers remain in the files.

J Heath O.C.

Hon F.W. Pickins  A. R
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Washington January 24 1853
Hon. James E. Heath
Comm'r. of Pensions

Sir

     I herewith enclose
important material additional
evidence in support of the
claim of Charles Carter
of South Carolina. Act of
7th June 1832

               I have the honor
to be most respectfully the
M. Thompson
Atty. for Carter
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State of South Carolina
Edgefield District

On this 16th day of November A.D.
1852, before me a Notary Public and 
Magistrate Ex officio, for the District and
State a foresaid, personally came
P.R. Blalock and John Huiet, two
credible witnesses who being duly
sworn according to Law, declare upon
oath that Lydia Carter is the widow
of Charles Carter Dec'd; that deponents
well knew both the parties, during
the lifetime of the latter, that they
actually lived together as husband
and wife, up to the death of Charles
Carter aforesaid, which took place 
on the 29th day of October  A.D. 1844,
and were always so considered, by every
one that knew them; that there is no
public or private record of their
marriage; and deponents further
make oath that they are disinterested;
and deponents further state, that Lydia
Carter aforesaid is still living and
a widow, and has never been 
married since the death of her husband,
Charles Carter aforesaid, and that
she is now about                  years
of age.

P.R. Blalock
John Huiet

Sworn to a& subscribed before me, the day
& year above written

A.M. Perrin
Notary Public  E.D.S.C.
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State of South Carolina
Edgefield District

I Thos. G. Bacon, clerk of the Court
 of E.D.& Q.S. for the district and State
aforesaid, do hereby certify that
A.M. Perrin Esqr. before whom
the within, and the herewith 
annexed affidavits were executed,
and whose genuine official
signature is thereunto annexed;
was at the dates thereof, a Notary
Public, for the District and State
aforesaid, duly commissioned and
sworn; and I further certify that
Rosala Blalock, whose genuine 
signature appears to the herewith 
annexed affidavit is a highly credible
and reputable person, and
that she is about the age therein
stated. In testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand, and affixed
my seal of office, as clerk for said
district. This 32st day of November A.D. 1852

Tho. G. Bacon
Clk.
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addl. evidence in
Lydia Carter case
widow of Charles
S.C. case
Act July 7 1838




Thompson & Wood
Present.
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Washington City
May 13, 1853

To the
Commr. of Pensions

Sir:

                Enclosed is an affidavit
of Mrs. Lydia Carter in relation to her
pension. The case is non complete,
and I hope for a favorable judgment
shortly.

Very Respy.
Thompson A. Wood

ev. files Jany 12 1853
ev. files Jany 24 1853

D. H.W.
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State of South Carolina
Edgefield District

     On this sixteenth day of 
November, in the year onethousand
eight hundred and fifty two before
me, A.M. Perrin, a Notary Public
and Magistrate Ex. officio, for
the district and state aforesaid
personally came Rosela Blalock, a credible 
and reputable witness, who being duly sworn according to law, 
declares upon oath that Lydia Carter
is the Widow of Charles Carter Dec'd.,who was reputed to be soldier in
the American army in the
War of the Revolution and she firmly
believes, that she, the above named
deponent, was actually present
on the occasion of the marriage
of Charles Carter Dec'd. aforesaid
to Lydia Scurry, who is now
Lydia Carter aforesaid, on or
about the Eight day of April  A.D. 1787 or 1788, in Newberry District, and
the state aforesaid, but that she
does not now remember said
marriage, as she was not more than two years
old at the time.  [ All following struck through: although she has been credibly informed that]
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[ Stuck through:  she was personally present on the occasion;]

That she has seen many persons
who said they were present, and saw
the parties aforesaid duly and
lawfully married; in Newberry
District South Carolina, on or 
about the 8th day of April A.D.
1787 or 1788 as above stated; that she
has heard many credible and 
disinterested persons speak of said 
anecdotes and incidents that
occurred on the occasions; That 
this deponent knew Charles Carter
Dec'd. aforesaid, and his wife Lydia
Carter aforesaid, in her earliest
childhood; that she kept up the
acquaintance regularly and 
intimately, from that time, that is 
from the time she could first
remember, up to the time of the
death of Charles Carter aforesaid; 
That they actually lived
together as husband and wife
during all that time, and were
always so considered, up to
the time of the death of Charles
Carter aforesaid, which event
occurred in Edgefield District
South Carolina, on or about
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The 29 day of October A.D. 1844l or thereabouts
and in about the Eightysecond year
of his age, that Lydia Care Carter his
widow aforesaid is still living
and a widow, and has never 
been married since his, Charles
Carter's, aforesaid, death, and
that she is about Eighty five years
of age; that this deponent is now
about Sixty seven years of age; and
deponent further makes oath
that she is disinterested.Attest:

John Huiet
Rosela Blalock

Sworn to and subscribed,
before me this 16th day of
November A.D. 1852

A.M. Perrin
Notary Public E.D. S.C.

I am acquainted with Rosela Blalock--
and believe her to be a person of good
character and is truly entitled of
credit.

A.P. Butler

Hon. A.P. Butler is United States
Senator from So. Car.
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To the Honorable the Senate and House of Representatives
of the State of South Carolina. This Petition of the Subscriber Charles Carter humbly & respectfully showeth
to your Honorable Body this needy condition and hopes
that the just claims which he has for Revolutionary
services when once presented for your consideration
will  induce you to grant him a pension. He is
now old & inform having to labour with his own
hands for the support of himself his wife & two 
daughters which  united with his superannuated age
numbering seventy eight years he hopes with incline you
to extend the means provided by an Act of the Legislature
for the relief of the soldiers of the Revolution. He has
lately applied to the Genl. Government for a pension
but for the want of necessary living evidence to
substantiate his Revolutionary services he has been denied
his application, all his fellow soldiers so far as he can
ascertain from a late correspondence having departed
this life. The same insufficiency of proof may operate
against him in his present petition but he trusts that
Justice will be done him. He now proceeds to state that 
he was enlisted into service in North Carolina under
Capt. Sharp sometime in the year 1781 or 82 and was 
frequently engaged in Scouting parties in pursuit of the
Tories and made a trip to Salisbury with some prisoners
and was also in service under Capt. Reed at Trowhawk
old field abuot the first Oct. the same year as well as
he can recollect. Your petitioner entered the continental
service under Capt. Davis, the batallion and Regiment
to which he was attached were commanded by Maj. Hogg
and Col. Ball  and were stationed at Halifax North 
Carolina. The Troops remained at Halifax untill about
the first of March following when they were marched
into South Carolina under the Command of Lieutenant
Lamb, after scouring the country through which
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they passed, the troops were at length stationed at Georgetown
South Carolina. After remaining at Georgetown
some time your petitioner with three others applied for
permission to join Genl. Green at James Island, which
permission was granted them. Your petitioner with his
brother soldiers then repaired immediately to Genl. Green's
army and became attached to a Company commanded
by Capt. Robert Rayford and Lieutenant Campain
of the North Carolina Light Infantry at which place
we remained until the close of the war when we were
discharged by Maj. Bynum and then returned home
about the first of September. I have thus succinctly
stated my services to the consideration of your Honorable
Body and hope that you will grant the prayer of your petitioner

Charles    Carter
       his X mark

South Carolina
Edgefield District

Personally came before me Charles
Carter and being sworn saith that the
services set forth in the foregoing petition is just and true to the
best of his recollection.

Charles   Carter
       his X mark

Sworn to before me this 18 Nov 1840
D.E. Davenport J.Q.

To the Honorable the Senate & House of Representatives
of the State of South Carolina. The petition of the
undersigned respectfully showeth to your Honorable Body that
they have taken into consideration the claims of Charles
Carter upon the Legislature of South Carolina for
his Revolutionary Services and think them entitled to
your respectful notice. We know nothing personally 
of Mr. Carter's services and they were not performed
immediately in this section of country but he has raised a
large & respectable family among us and we know him
to be a man of strict truth & irreproachable moral character
& conduct. We take his narrations of his Revolutionary
services as facts and do not doubt them which he has
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presented to your Honorable Body by the way of petition
and inasmuch as he is wanting the necessary proof to establish
them we have thought it our duty to furnish
you with his general character. Mr. Cater is really
in needy circumstances having to labour for the support
of himself, his wife and two daughters, and his age being
seventy eight years old now disqualifies him for labour.
We therefore your Honorable Body that you will 
make him a pensioner upon the Common Bounty of
the State as we really think him entitled to it and hope
that you will discharge a grateful tribute now due a
Revolutionary soldier who cannot ask your Bounty
long but who no doubt feel extremely grateful to your
Honorable Body for remembering his Revolutionary
services, with is age and infirmities by granting him
the prayer of his petition. So. Ca. Edgefield Dist. 18th
Nov. 1840 (signed) Richard C. Griffin, James S. Pope, D.E.
Davenport, Thos. C. Griffin, R.A. Griffin, Thos. Scurry,
John Presley, William Thompson, Robert Chainey, Pierce
Little, Charles C. Barnett, Wm. Bradfield, Reuben
Cooper, J.W. Cooper, Pleasant Burnett Sen., Carter Burnett,
David G. Burnett, Willy Culbreath, Littleberry Burnett.
The Committee on pension, to whom was repaired
"the petition of Charles Carter praying to be placed
on the pension Roll" Respectfully report that they
have had the same under consideration and recommend 
that he be placed on the Pension Roll of the
State. In the House of Representatives December 17 1840.
Resolved that the House do agree to the Report ordered
that it be sent to the senate for concurrence. By
order (signed) Wm Glover C.H.R. In the Senate Decr 18
1840. Resolved that the Senate do concur in the Report ordered
that it be returned to the House of Representative. By order
(Signed) W.E. Martin C.S."
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Office of the Clerk House of Reps.
Columbia So. Ca. Nov. 24th 1832

I do hereby certify the foregoing to be a true copy as
taken from the original papers on file in this
office

Hon Clerk House Reps.
James A. Black
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Mar. 8
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Pension Office
Mar. 8 1855

Sir

          If the irregular certificates of Judge
Wright, founded on the "statements" of Mary
Coleman and John Kirksey filed in support
of the claim of Lydia Carter, widow of Charles,
of S.C. under the act of 1838, had been put in
the usual form of affidavits, as the regulations
of this office require, they would not add to
the proof that Charles Carter performed
such and so much service s would entitle
his widow to a pension.
         However long continued or meritorious the
service of a soldier may have been, if that
service is not proved by adequate evidence
he cannot obtain a pension. Loose statements
that a man served a year in the militia
of a state, according to a witnesses' understanding
will not avail;  especially as the tours
of militia duty had no such duration in
hardly any case

A. Perrine Esq.
Edgefield C.H.
So. Carolina
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A. Perrin
Jany 28 1834
Page 44

Pension Office
Jany 28 1854

Sir
      I enclose copies of letters of the 25 & 28 of 
May 1853 to M. Thompson Esq
of this City, which will indicate
the steps necessary to be taken
to complete the case of Lydia
Carter of So. Ca.

A. Perrin Esq.
Edgefield C.H.
So.Ca.
Page 45

M. Thompson
May 25 1853
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Pension Office
May 25 1853

Sir
     There is no evidence among the papers
of Charles Carter of So. C. to identify him
with the Charles Carter and the C.Carter
who received Indents for military service
in N.C. His Declaration 
declaring for eleven months service, in
N.C. and S.C. without any description
of service and wholly unsupported by
any character of proof, has been in
the office many years,. The Comptroller's
certificate states the bald fact that a
man bearing that name received a
certain amount of pay. I cannot conclude, 
without proof, that the Carter of
the Comptroller's certificate and the father
of the applicants are identical. He must be
identified by the testimony of those who served
with him as were in a position to know
that he did serve.

M. Thompson Esq.   Present
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Edgefield C.H. S.C.
March 30th 1854

Additional evidence 
in the case of Lydia
Carter for Revolutionary
Pension for
the service of Charles
Carter Dec's who
served in N.C.
Militia


A. Perrin
Atty J.C.
Page 48

Pension Office
August 24, 1855

Sir
     If this office were to give copies of the papers in all the rejected
and suspended claims before it upon application,
but little progress would be made in other branches
of our legitimate business without a greatly
increased clerical force. I must therefore decline
a compliance with your request, but will give
you a statement embracing the material facts in the
cases referred to by you, Lydia Carter of S.C. claims
to be pensioned under the Act of July 7 1838 and to receive
the arrears supposed to be due her husband under the
Act of June 7 1832, for the services which her husband 
alleged he rendered, viz, various short tours of Militia duty
under Captain Sharp & others, and 11 months service in
the N.C. Continental Line. Claim disallowed for want
of sufficient proof of service and date of her marriage
R. 939 Sarah Bledsoe claimed the benefit of the Act
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of July7 1838 on account of service which she alleged
that her husband John Bledsoe rendered in the
Militia of N.C. It is admitted that a man of her
husband's name did render some service in N.C.
but sufficient evidence has not be furnished 
to satisfy this office that the soldier & her 
husband were identical.

The original application of John B. Mitchell [R.File 7276]
is not on file in this office. The letter of Lydia Carter of the
8th of March last to you will explain the 
grounds which I am to have influenced
the office in the rejection of the case,
Yo have been corresponded with, heretofore,
in relation to all these claims

A. Perrin Esq.
Edgefield                            [O.W. Cock]
S.C.
Page 50

The Claim of 
Lydia Carter for
Revolutionary 
Pension






A. Perrin
Atty
Edgefield C.H.S.C.
Page 51

Pension Office
28 May 1853

Sir
               When the letter of the 28th inst.
relative to the claim of Lydia Carter was
addressed to you, the additional evidence
filed on the 24 January last, had not been
reached in the regular order of business. That
evidence, consisting of a certified copy of
Charles Carter's petition to the Legislature
of South Carolina and various affidavits
to prove marriage, had been since examined
and filed wit the other papers in the case.
          The objections contained in the
letter of the 25th inst. have not been removed
by this additional testimony. It is necessary
that some proof be furnished, to connect the
Charles Carter, who received in 1783 certain
indents from the State of North Carolina,
with the husband of the present claimant.
The fact that he makes no mention in his
original declaration of having been so paid
bye the State raises a presumption against
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the identity of the two men.
          The proof of marriage is also insufficient.
There is no satisfactory evidence to establish
the date of marriage, all essential in
determining at what time the pension
should commence. The regulations of
the office in this respect must be complied with before the claim can be admitted.

M. Thompson
May 28 1853