Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 12338, Joseph Brown, New York
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SERVICE
New York 

Brown, Joseph

NUMBER
S.12338

CONTENTS
B. Sept 1, 1763 in Albany Co. (later called Schoharie)

Res. At
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New York 14741.

Joseph Brown 
Of Fulton in the State of N.Y. who was a Priv: in the Comp. commanded by Captain Hager of the Regt commanded by Col Newman in the militia N. Y. line for 2 years.

Inscribed on the Roll of N.Y. at the rate of 80. Dollars 00 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. 

Certificate of Pension issued the 13 day of June 1833 and handed B.Shafford, Present 

Arrears to the 4th of March 33. 160.00 
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept " 40.00 --$200.00 


Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by Francion Clerk,
Book E. Vol. 4 Page 46 


See letter to Hon. G. Kemble Sept. 11, 1837. letters to Alb. 
Agt J H Hager, Nov 25. 1837 
Let to Hon A. Vanderpool January 21, 1840 
to Hon J. E. Cary March 5, ‘45
 all of above letters are in the claim
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In the matter
of the application of
Joseph Brown
for a pension

adm'd
2 years pri
80$

B. Spafford ex cl[?]
present.
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State of New York 
Schoharie County} SS

On this sixth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty three personally appeared in open Court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Schoharie in the said State of New York Joseph Brown aged seventy years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June Seventh 1832 

That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers 4 and served as herein stated- 

That in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty (1780) he this deponent resided in a place called Homaus Land, situated on the Schoharie River about thirty miles South of the point where said Scholarie river Empties into the Mohawk river-- said place called Vromans Land was there situated in the old County of Albany in the said State of New York now called and known as the Town of Fulton in the said County of Schoharie, in the said State of New York

 That in the month of June in the year
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of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty (1780) (the particular day in said month of June he the deponent does not distinctly recollect, but recollects distinctly that it was in the month of June from the fact that farmers were then engaged in having corn, he this deponent was regularly Enrolled as a militiaman in a company commanded by Jacob Hager as commandant and Peter Swart and Cornelius Freck as first and second Lieutenants in said company - this deponent does not now recollect that all of the officers in said company under at that time in the said place called Normans Land in the said County of Albany- That Peter Vroman was Colonel of the Regiment to which said company was attached- That in the said month of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty (1780) and immediately after he this deponent was regularly enrolled in said company as aforesaid, the said company under the command of the said Jacob Hager as commandant were called out to perform duty and-
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stationed at the Fort called the “upper Fort” in Vromans Land in the said County of Albany, now County of Schoharie as aforesaid in the defence of the Country against the invasions and incursions of Indians and Tories - That said company were stationed at said fort from the said month of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty (1780) until the ?part of the month of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty two (1782) This deponent further declares that he faithfully served as a private soldier in said militia company at said fort from the said month of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty (1780) until the prepart of the month of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty two (1782) That in the prepart of the month of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty two (1782) he this deponent while on duty as a private Soldier in said Company at said Fort was taken Prisoner by a party of-
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Indians, and conveyed by them on foot to Niagara in the Canadas and retained by them as a prisoner until the summer of the year of our Lord the thousand seven hundred and Eighty four as this deponent thinks-- this deponent recollects distinctly that he was a prisoner about the period of two years among the Indians, and then was discharged from such imprisonment and returned home after the war had ceased.

This deponent further declares and distinctly sets forth that in the month of June in the year of the Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty --- (1780) until the time he was taken prisoner as aforesaid he faithfully served the country as a soldier in at least the period of the year and Eleven months - this period and duration of service this deponent can positively attest to - And further that after he was taken prisoner as aforesaid he was in the actual custody and detention of the Indians at Niagara in at least the period of one year and Nine months, that this period and duration of his imprisonment by and amount the Indians he can positively attest to -
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this deponent further declares that he is now a resident of the Town of Fulton in the County of Schoharie and State of New York. that he has resided where he now does ever since the Revolutionary war, that he was born in the County of Albany, now called and known as the County of Schoharie in the State of New York, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and sixty three (1763) that there is a record of the age of this deponent in the Records of St Pauls Church in the Town of Schoham in the County of Schohan ● of which Church George A Lintner is Pastor, that by said Record it appears that this deponent was born on the twenty first day of September in the year 1763 and that according to said Record this deponent will be seventy years of age in September next - That he has no documentary evidence of his services above lot with that he never received a written discharge from seria, that he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and didores that his name is not in the pension Roll of the agency of any statehis  I subscribed Joseph Brown and year open court. Mark John Lebbard Jr. Clerk Sworn to the day aforesaid in
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We George A. Lintner a Clergyman residing in the Town of Schoharie in the County of Schoharie in the State of New York and Jacob S. Harder residing in the Town of Fulton in the said County of Schoharie hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joseph Brown who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be seventy years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.

Sworn to & Subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court”
G.A. Lintner
Jacob J Hender 

John Lebhard Jr. Clerk 

Sworn And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogators prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the
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Court further certifies that it appears to them that George A. Guitner who has signed the presiding certificate is a Clergyman resident in the Town of SCHOHARIE in the said County of SCHOHARIE and that Jacob F. Harder who has signed the same is a resident in the said town of Fulton, and that they are credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit. And that Barent Becker who has subscribed and sworn to the annexed . affidant is a resident of the town of Middleburgh in the said County of SCHOHARIE and is a  credible person and that his statement is entitled to credit 

Wm Mann
Marvin Judd 
Tho. Danforth ⎬ 
Judge

State of New York SCHOHARIE County ss }

On this sixth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty three personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the said County of SCHOHARIE and State of New York now sitting Barent Becker a resident-
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of the Town of Middleburgh in the said County of Schoharie  who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration- 

That he is aged about seventy years, that he was born in the Town of Schoharie in the County of Albany, now the Town of Schoharie in the County of Schoharie that he resided in the Town of Schoharie in the County of Albany in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty (1780) and previous and subsequent thereto. that he was well acquainted with Joseph Brown the person named as applicant in the preceding declaration in the year 1780 and previous and subsequent thereto until this time, and or along a period as he can recollect that said Joseph Brown United in the Revolutionary war in a place called Vromans land in the County of Albany now the Town of Fulton in the said County of Schoharie. That in the years 1780, 1781 & 1782 the said Joseph Brown belonged to a militia company under the command of Jacob Hager as commandant. and said company were stationed at the Fort called the Upper Fort in Vromans Land -
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that during the above named years said company were stationed at the said Fort in the defence of the Country against the invasion and incursions of the Indians and Torres - and this deponent distinctly set forth that he frequently see the said Joseph Brown on duty as a member of said company at said fort, and also on scouts in the neighboring country in which this deponent was personally engaged with said Joseph Brown, that the number of times he see said Brown in such service he cannot positively attest to that said company was attached to a regiment commanded by Colonel Peter Vroman-- that he has no doubt him what this deponent saw and knew of the services of the said Joseph Brown, that the said Brown was engaged in the service of the Common Country and of the United States as a private soldier from the Early part of the summer of the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty (1780) untill the month of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty two (1782) when the said Brown was taken prisoner by the Indians at said Fort, and conveyed-
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as this deponent was informed and believed at the time to the Canadas- that this deponent well recollects the invasion of the Indians into the old County of Albany in the month of June in the year of the Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty two (1782) and well recollects that they killed one of the inmates of the Fort, and that it was well understood at the time that the said Brown was taken prisoner and conveyed by the Indians out of the Country in the direction of the Canadas, that said Brown remained absent for some length of time and returned to Vromans Land and soon after the war as this deponent recollects distinctly, but the exact time he was absent as a prisoner he cannot State -

Subscribed Sworn to the day and year aforesaid in open court } 
John Gebhard Jr clerk 

Barent Becker

I John Gebhaw clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Schoharie  in the State of New York do hereby Certify that the foregoing- Clerk
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contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Joseph Brown for a pension.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this Sixth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three

John Gebhard Jr.
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From the papers in the pension claim, Survivor File No. 12,338, it appears that Joseph Brown was born Sept. 21, 1763, in that part of Albany Co. N. Y. that was later called Schoharie Co. He was living at Vroman's Land, on the Schoharie River when he enrolled in June 1780 as a private in Capt. Jacob Hager's Co. Col. Peter Vroman's Regiment of N.Y. Militia, and served at various times until June 1782, when he was captured at the Upper Fort in Vroman's Land, by the Indians and held as prisoner by them for one year and nine months. 

He was allowed pension on his application executed June 6, 1833, while living at Fulton, N. Y. but his name was dropped from the pension roll, upon a re-examination of his claim, which showed that he had rendered but four months and sixteen days actual military service in the field, as whereas the pension laws required six months service.

There is no data on file as to his family, except that he had a son-in-law, but his name is not stated. 

Very respectfully, 
Washington Gardner 
Commissioner. 

First part of this letter is in County land claim of Welcome Moore B.S. Wt. 39605-160-55. War 1812 

This letter dated June 4, 1921 & addressed to D. A. B. Harding Castile, N.Y
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11 Sept 1837
O.C.
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War Dept 
Pension Office 
Sept. 11. 1837 

Sir,
In reply to the enclosed letter I have to inform you that persons residing in the State of New York of the name of Joseph Brown, have obtained persons, but neither of them recorded in West Chester County. One was an inhabitant of Schoharie, another was a resident in Montgomery County, and the other resided in Orange County. Probably the one last alluded in the person to whom the writer has reference. His widow, in order to establish her claim to a perform, must produce such proof as the enclosed printed instructed point out.

I have the Honor 
Hon. Governour Kemble 
House of Rep 
Enter this on Pg. act 4 July 1836 N York cod 2581
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H. Hager
Nov 25 1837.
Gl

Record 746 Page 95
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War Dept.
Pension Office.
Nov 25. 1837,

Sir,

Your letter of the 31st of July [illegible] to the Hon B. F. Butler was [illegible] to this office yesterday.  [In reply, I have to inform you that - is crossed out and initialed] The pensions of Barent Becker and Joseph Brown have been stopped [crossed out - upon your] in consequence of the statement you have made.

Henry Hager, Esq.
North Blenheim, 
N York.
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War Dept
Pen: Office
Jan 21, 40

Sir

I have the honor to return you the letter of [illegible] respecting the claim of Joseph Brown of Fulton Schoharie County [ampersand] in reply to state that his pension was allowed upon the evidence of Barent Becker that he had been taken prisoner while in service [ampersand] held in captivity 2 years~and has been suspended on information since rec.d that the witness is a participant in the pension or otherwise rewarded for his testimony~

Upon an examination of his papers it appears that he [illegible] in general terms that he was in service at the Upper Fort from June 80 to June 81
under Capt Hager of Col. Vroomans Regt in captivity till the war ended.  The terms of service were very short in the militia [ampersand] should have been particularly set forth as to period-length [ampersand] date during the period he was subject to duty under
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Capt Hager and the full statement of all the circumstances of the hour in which he was taken prisoner [ampersand] of his captivity should be furnished in a supplemental declaration.

The certificate of the Comptr. at Albany as to the service should be obtained.

[notations on sides of page are not legible.]
January 21, 1840
G. C.
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Hon J.E. Cary
March 5 45
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Sir         Pen Off
March 5 45

I have the honor to inform you that Joseph Brown alleged various terms of service in the N. Y militia subsequently to 1778 when the rolls in the company office commence in Vroomans Regt. and the rolls show that he was [illegible] 5 tours which in the agregate amount to 4 mo. 16 days.  It is very apparent that in his declaration he confounded his mustering patroling [ampersand] with his military service in his embodied company which alone can be taken into the computation of a pension~He has no claim for captivity whatever for service [ampersand] the claim for captivity never had any foundation~

Hon. J. E, Cary
[illegible], R,
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[typewritten on government letterhead]
[handwritten notation E. W. in upper right corner]
IN REPLY REFER TO
Rev. War Section 3-1865
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
WASHINGTON
September 13, 1921.

A. B. Harding, M. D.
Castile, New York.

Sir:
In response to your letter dated August 18, 1921, you are advised that on June 4, 1921, you were furnished with the Rev. War history of Joseph Brown, Sur. file No. 12338, and that this is the only Joseph Brown, of Vroman's Land, Albany County (later called Schoharie County), New York, found on the Revolutionary [handwritten notation to insert War] records of this Bureau.

Very respectfully, 

Acting Commissioner.
[no signature}
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[stamped image]
CHIEF'S DESK
RECORD
AUG 26 1921
U.S. BUREAU OF PENSIONS
[Image is oval shaped with a star on either side of date]
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[on letterhead]
BELL TELEPHONE CONNECTIONS
A.B. HARDING, M. D.
CASTILE, N. Y. 
[stamped on right side]
PENSION
D
AUG
20
1921
OFFICE
[U. S. on either side of date]
[all else is handwritten]
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.
Sir:
Will you please send me the war record of Joseph Brown, a Revolutionary [underlined] soldier who was living in what is part of Albany Co. N.Y. that was [illegible] called Schoharie Co.  He was I think living at Vromans Land and was the father of that Joseph Brown

[handwritten notation in upper left corner appears to be Rev. MH 2]
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[continued from previous page on letterhead]
BELL TELEPHONE CONNECTIONS
A. B. HARDING, M. D.
CASTILE, N. Y.
[remainder of page is handwritten]
who was captured at the Upper Fort in Vroman's Land by Indians.  It seems father and son were both in the Revolutionary war.
It is very important that I have the full record of this man while in the Revolutionary war.  An early reply will be greatly appreciated.
Respectfully,
AB Harding

[stamped in middle of page]
PENSION
D
AUG
20
1921
OFFICE
[U. S. on either side of date]
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[Stamp]
Record
JUN 1 1921 
DIVISION
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Rev
3
MH

BELL TELEPHONE CONNECTIONS
A. B. HARDING, M. D.
CASTILE May 26-1913

[Stamped]
U.S. PENSION OFFICE
 D   MAY 31 1921

Mr. Washington Gardner,
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:-
I gratefully appreciate the data
contained in your letter of May 13, and
in reply to your request to furnish
more data concerning Revolutionary
solder Joseph Brown in regard to
death and birth. The only records
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BELL TELEPHONE CONNECTIONS
A. B. HARDING, M. D.
CASTILE, N. Y.

[Stamp]
U.S. PENSION OFFICE 
D MAY 31 1921

we have as that he died in 1846 or 7 at
Cobleskill Schoharie Co. N.Y. at the age of
(94) ninety four years. We do not know for
sure whether he lived at Middleburg or
Fultonham when he was called on to
guard Schoharie Ft. We only know that he
was captured by the Indians and held a
captive in Canada for two years. He married
a widow by the name of Katherine Lawyer
maiden name Whitney of this union his
Children were born. Hannah Eve Brown
was born Jan 22, 1810. A son Abraham
two or three years younger who
died in
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BELL TELEPHONE CONNECTIONS
A. B. HARDING, M. D.
CASTILE, N. Y.

[Stamped]
U.S. PENSION OFFICE 
D 31 MAY 1921

Albany in the year of 1830. For this
service he drew a pension
of 1830 For this
In regard to Malcome Moore who
was a solder of 1782, could you from the
records tell me where he was born and
what his Fathers name was and any
other data you may have in regard
to his family.
Thanking you in advance
I remain sincerely
A.B. Hardy M.D
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Revtrar

12338
INVALID
---
File No. 12,338
Joseph Brown
Priv. Rev. war
---
Act: June 7th 1832.
Index:- Vol. A, Page 48
[Arrangement  of 1870.]

1921. June 4. Hist to Dr. A.B. Harding - au
1921 Sept 13 letter to above [?] this is the only Jos Brown of Vroman's L and ([?]) found in rev war records - Ew
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State of New York
Secretary's Office ⎬
I certify that it appears by the minutes
of the council of appointment of this State in this Office that on the 20th day of February 1778 Jacob Heeger and George Rightmeyer were respectively appointed Captains of companies in the Regiment of Militia in the County of Albany whereof Peter Vrooman was Colonel 
Archd Campbell
Albany April 3. 1841
Dep. Secretary
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In pursuance of a law passed the 27th day of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:
----
1780 Decr 21 | 13.719 Joseph Brown pri 1 7 6
1781 April 8 | 13751 Joseph Brown " 0 11 8
1779 Decr 1 | 15762 Joseph Brown " 1 12 0
1780 Dec 21 | 15.835 Joseph Brown " 3 12 10 2/3
1781 April 8 ┃15867 Joseph Brown " 1 4 10 2/3
------
10 8 10
$31.10 cents
4mo. 16d

STATE OF NEW YORK.
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, March 31 - 1841.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 3 & 4 now remaining in this office, that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz:
First-under Capt. Jacob Heager in Col. Peter Vrooman's Regiment
Second, " " Jacob Heager " " in Col. Peter Vrooman's "
Third, " " Jacob Heager " " in Col. Peter Vrooman's "
Fourth, " " Jacob Heager " " in Col. Peter Vrooman's "
Fifth, " " Jacob Heager " " in Col. Peter Vrooman's "

The two first charges above named appears by Book A of Audited
accounts to be for pay for rations due him found by himself
W . N. Ordway
Dep Comptroller
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Washington Feby 27th 1845
Honl
J. L. Edwards
Sir-
The enclosed
papers in relation to the case of
Joseph Brown a pensioner I hope
are sufficient to reinstate
him on the Roll - and I hope to
receive your favourable Answer
before I leave Washington on the
5th proximate if you are able to decide
it before the
Yours Respectfully
J.E. Cary
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Schoharie County ss
Barney Keyser to me personally Known
being duly sworn deposeth & saith that in the Revolutionary War This Deponent removed with his uncle's Family for safety into the upper Fort in the now County of Schoharie & while this Deponent was at said Fort He frequently saw Joseph Brown stand on guard & saw him at roll call often when his name was called & to which he answered & knows that said Joseph Brown done military Duty under Captain Jacob Hager of Col. Peter Vroman's Regiment to this deponents knowledge between Two & three months what year this deponent does not recollect. This Deponent was at the Fort at the time that said Brown was taken Prisoner + knows that he continued a Prisoner untill after the War was ended a period according to this deponents best recollection of between two & three years. and further saith not
Barney Keyser [sig]

Sworn & Subscribed to this
20th Day of February 1845
Before me
Charles Watson Justice of the Peace
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Fulton Ham P.O. Schoharie County
Feby 20, 1845

Hon J. E. Carey
Sir enclosed you will find papers and an affidavit relating to Joseph Brown a former pensioner of the United States whose pension
has been suspended since the 4th September 1837 by the Comiss of Pensions. I think if the within papers are forwarded to the Pension Office, it will be satisfactory to them & the Pensioner will be enabled to day his pension since it was suspended. The Pensioner is a verry old man and in destitute circumstances
at the time or previous to his person being suspended He was living with his Step Son-- who received the avails of his pension & in consequence of his step Son & one of his neighbors by the name of Hager having had some difficulty. Hager wrote or caused to be written to the War Department statements (however unjust & foundationless) by means
of which the pension was suspended. The Pensioners Step Son died some 2 years ago & since then the old man has subsisted chiefly upon the charity of his neighbors.
Please forward the within Papers to the Pension Office immediately upon recpt of them & any thing you can do in the premises
will confer a favor upon one of our revolutionary Heroes, who in a short time must be no more.
By your attending to it without delay & should
the Pensioner be again added to the list of Pensioners He may be able to draw on the 4th March Next. Any communication from you or from the War Department please address to me as above
Verry Respectfully Yours
Charles Watson
Fulton Ham P.O. Scho. County
P.S. the No of his Pension Certificate is 14741 under the Law of 7th June 1832 & dated 15th June 1833
C. W.
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Henry Hager
July 31st 1837
Jost or J Brown 14741
Barent Beckey 5468
Ky

The Honorable Benjamin L. Butler
City of Washington

North Blenheim
August 2d 1837

Recd from Hon R. H. Butler
Nov 24 1837
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North Blenheim July 31st 1837-
Honourable and worthy Friend-- I have had it in  contemplation for some time past to inform the Hon, the Secretary of War of two persons in the County of Schoharie who are and have been drawing pension for and years past relative to the act or acts of Congress in reference to pension, who in my humble and candid opinion in are not entitled to pension more then the man would be who was not in existence in that memorable war and  being unaquainted with the present secretary of war
and being in had the pleasure in former years
to form an acquaintance with you and as I had understood that you had recently acted in that capasity of secretary of war I therefore take the liberty of addressing your Hon on the above subject. the persons to which I have [??ined] to is Joseph or Jost Brown residing in the Town of Fulton in said County the other is Barrent Becker residing in the town of Middleburg in said county. Firstly I shall as briefly as the nature of the case will admit state the 
circumstances relative to Browns case as it has and dose appear to me. some years since, I was at the Courthouse in our County where a man by the name of Haider in company with said Brown came to me and at which time said Hader introduced to me the subject of pension and wished me to make oath for Brown 
Brown, I then to him that I had no recollection that Brown had ever done any duty in that war 
whereupon said Hader said that Brown had been on duty under my Father when the Indians had taken him off then spoke to Brown in his own language and put the
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Question to him if he had been on duty under my Father when he was thus taken off whereuppon he answered in the affirmative. I then asked him what the duty had been
that he then had been performing whereuppon he replyed that he had drove away their cows, I then asked him of my Father had ordered him to drive the Cows whereuppon he answered in the negative, and said that his own father had sent him to drive the Cows, then I told said Harder to say no more on the subject, that I could not for a moment think that he had ever been enroled under my Father, that he would not have trusted to such persons as Brown was in such trying times as we had in that war, I then told Harder that his very appearance and satisfy any man of discernment that was not a person to be depended uppon in such times as we then had to encounter. This I can substantiate by affidavit if necessary by person who stood by, and heard the conversation. I have not till very recently been informed how and from
whom an oath had been obtained That person had been on duty when taken of as stated, a respectable young man and neighbour to Brown and Harder informed me, that Harder had told him that he had got said Barent Becker to sware for Brown, that he should have been on duty as stated when taken off as mentioned, and that he the said Harder was to
give said Becker ten Bushels of corn for making the oath and he said H. had paid said Becker two Bushels of corn and further stated that the said H. was to have $15 of the pension of Brown as long as he draws it and had had it for some time, but Brown had been advised and would not pay him said H. any more, whereupon
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he the said H. told him the said young man that he would not pay to said Becker the eight bushels of corn and that said Becker had got certain Justice of the peace to write him the said H. a line requesting him to pay the corn due him the said Becker to prevent Costs, whereupon said H. told the said young man
that Becker might sue as quick as he pleased and if he did that then he the said Harder would have him the said Becker indited for false swearing in said war, there were three forts that ware mentioned the one was called,
the lower fort the next middle fort and the third the upper ford, at which said last mentioned fort my father was stationed this I mention to show that Brown and Becker were not together in one fort in that war
Brown was in said upper fort and said Becker
in said Middle fort, I havent any doubt this [???] if they had any knowledge in that said war of one another.  the last year of said war the Company  to which I then belonged was stationed in said Middle fort, where said Becker was then with father, and uppon principals of honour I have recollection of having seen said Becker on the parade
seen him have a firelock in his hand. it is
said that Becker pretends that he was in the battle with the Indians at the [atto??] in Delliware County I am well satisfied as I was there and have no knowledge of his being these. in short my candid opinion it would be a rare thing to find a candid and honest man in Schoharie County that resided here in that war and was & is till acquainted with Brown or Becker that together of there is in the 
[intitled?] to any pension, your Hon will of course present this to his Hon  the Secretary of war please write me
Yours very Respectfully
Henry Hager

please remember me to his excellency 
the president and if you please say to him that
[??] from him to me would be pleasing