Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 14664, for Joel Terrell, North Carolina
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8 - 1776 NUMBER
Terrell, Joel
S. 14664
SERVICE
(N.C. Agency and Residence)
CONTENTS
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Let J. W. Terrell Apl. 10/56
1886 April [illeg.], Cherley Erwin
that the [illeg.] subscribed State Certificate
for a pension he recd for wounds

Widow or other heir have no claim to
pension after Soldiers death     Prior
April 24/86. To Hon. A. D. Sandler H. H.
Clmt. has rec'd all pension due him.
Law makes no provision for children
or heirs of Rev. soldiers. See slip inside

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North Carolina
Joel Terrell
private.
in the late army of the
United States.
Inscribed on the roll of
North Carolina, by author-
ity of the act of Congress pass-
ed, the 18th, April, 1814 at 
$3.33/100 per month to comm:
on the 18th. Dec. 1813--
and increases to $5.33/100 per 
mo. by the act of the 24th Apl.
1816
Cert. of pension issued the
17th Dec. 1816 and sent
to the honble [honorable] Israel Pickens
Member of Congress for North
Carolina, City of Washington

[illeg.] [sup]posed to have been
[illeg.]
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Qualla Town N.C.
March 17th 1856  

Sir
My grandfather Joel Terrell was a revolutionary soldier and was wounded at the battle of Gilford [Guilford] in North Carolina.  He drew a pension from the year 1813 to the time of his death which happened about the year 1819 or 20  At his death he left a wife and four children of whom three of the children are still living.  His widow never drew any thing after his death.  She died bout the year 1838 was never married after my grandfathers death.
I write this to you for information I wish to know 1st was not the widow intitled [sic] to the pension of her disceased [sic] husband as long as she lived and as she did not receive it are the children not intitled to it now.
2d Are the children themselves not intitled to a pension if it can be proven that Joel Terrell died in consequence of a wound received in battle.  This can be established at any time
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If the heirs in either or both of the above cases are intitled [sic] to any thing, you will confur [sic] a great favor by letting me know it and inclosing [sic] suitabl [sic] blanks for the purpose of making the necessary proof--
I have a copy of my grandfathers pension certifficate [sic] now in my possession
Very  &c.
J. W. Terrell

The Commisioner [sic] 
of Pensions
Washington
D.C--
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State of Georgia
County of Floyd     SS.
On this 11th day of August A,D, 1885 Personally comes before me, The undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for Said County, Mrs. Evelina Erwin, who is now, and has been for the past Sixty years, wife of Arthur Erwin but previously to her marriage with Arthur Erwin, her maiden name was Evelina Terrell, who is of indisputable veracity and Respectability and well known to me, She being duly Sworn by me, deposeth and says That She is the Daughter of Joel Terrell of Rutherford Co North Carolina, That She is the daughter of the Identical Joe Terrell mentioned in the accompaning [sic] Payroll, and only Surviving heir at Law of the Said Joel Terrell, that Joel Terrell Died in the County of Rutherford NC on the Twenty sixth day of December 1819 that his wife Mother of the affiant was never married again but remained a widow until her death and that She died 19th day of March 1839 in the County of Rutherford NC  That to the best of her knowledge and belief that her father nor mother, nor any of their heirs at law did Receive any of the Pensions due to him in her lifetime, nor authorized any other person to Receive it for them, affiant further swears, that the long Delay
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which has intervened has not been caused by any wilful neglect on her part, but from the fact that they pay Roll herewith Submitted was not known to be in existence till about the 8th day of August 1885 at which time it was accidentally discovered amongst a Set of old (cast aside) papers that had not been in use for say fifth years
That affiant makes this affidavit for the purpose of presenting as the heir at Law, the claim of her Father Joel Terrell for any arrears that may have been due him at the time of his Death Dec 26th 1819 or any amount that may be due to her mother Martha Williams Terrell who Remained the widow of Joel Terrell till the time of her Death on the 19th day of March 1839 and also for any amount that may yet be due to the heirs of the said Joel Terrell at the present time August 14th 1855
Evelina A Erwin

Sworn to and Subscribed before me
this August 14th 1885
George M Thomas
Justice of the Peace
1059 Qust [?] GM Floy [sic] Co Georgia
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State of Georgia
Floyd County     SS
On this day August 14th 1885 Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for Said County Arthur Erwin who is well known to me and has been for the last Twenty years and is of unassailable [?] veracity and credibility, and who being duly Sworn by me, affirms and Says that in the year 1825 Jany 18th He married Evelina Terrell in the County Rutherford that She has been his wife ever since and that She is Still living and now is about Eighty five years old-- having been married to him Sixty-years, that She is the Daughter and only Surviving heir at Law of Joel Terrell, who was the Identical Joel Terrell mentioned in the accompany [sic] Pay Roll-- that to the best of his knowledge and belief that no one has ever Recd any of the arrears of Pension due to his father in Law, Joel Terrell or his mother in Law Martha Williams Terrell nor has any of the Terrell heirs at Law ever Recd any of said arrears, which may have been or was now due on Said Payrolls for Services in the Revolutionary war  Affiant makes this
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This affidavit for the purpose of presenting the claim for unpaid arrearages [sic] that my be due the said Joel Terrell or his wife Martha Terrell or any of the heirs at Law of the Said Joel
That the Delay in presenting this Claim has not been Caused by negligence but from the fact that till very lately this accomping [sic] Pay roll was not known to be in existence but was discovered by mere chance
George W Thomas
Justice of the Peace
1059 Dist GM Floyd County     Arthur Erwin
Georgia

Georgia      
Floyd County
I A. E. Ross Clerk of the Superior Court in and for said County Do hereby Certify that George W. Thomas, whose genuine Official signature appears above is an acting Justice of the Peace in & for said County, duly Elected & Commissioned-      Given under my hand
             & Seal of Office at Office in
             Rome Ga.  This 14th August 1885
                A. E. Ross Clk
                Supr Court
                Floyd Co. Ga
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June 27, 1939
XXXXXXXXX
JOEL TERRELL
S. 14664
BA-J/MLB

Mr. Tom J. Terral
Wallace Building
Little Rock, Arkansas

Dear Sir:

The data which follow in regard to Joel Terrell were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S. 14664, based upon service in
the Revolutionary War and upon disability incurred while in service.

The date and place of birth of Joel Terrell and names of his parents were not stated.

Joel Terrell served as private in the United States Army in the Revolutionary War, names of officers, dates of service or other details
not stated, except that he was wounded in the battle of Guilford in North Carolina.

On account of disability resulting from wounds received in service, the soldier was pensioned at $3-1/3 per month, from December 13, 1813,
and was increased to $5-1/3 per month under the Act of April 24, 1816. His residence at the time he received his pension is shown to have been Wake County, North Carolina. He died in Rutherford County, that state, December 26, 1819. His age was not stated in the claim.

Joel Terrell was survived by a widow, Martha, who died March 10, 1839, in Rutherford County, North Carolina. The date and place of birth of soldier's wife, Martha, or date of soldier's marriage to her were not given. Four children survived the soldier, three of whom were still living in 1856. The only child whose name was designated was their daughter, Evelina A., who married Arthur Erwin, January 18, 1825, in Rutherford County, North Carolina. In 1885, Evelina A. Erwin was aged
eighty-five years and a resident of Floyd County, Georgia, and was then the only surviving child and heir of the soldier.

J. W. Terrell, grandson of Joel and Martha Terrell, in 1856, was living in Qualla Town, North Carolina, and in 1886, another grandson,
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Charley Erwin, son of soldier's daughter, Evelina A., and Arthur Erwin, was a resident of Pleasant Grove, Forsyth County, Georgia.
The names of J. W. Terrell's parents were not stated, nor are any further family data shown in the claim.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator

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W. A. BROWN.         M. W. BROWN
OFFICE OF
W. A. BROWN & SON,
MANUFACTURERS OF
COTTON YARN, KNITTING COTTON,
BALL SEWING THREAD, BATTING, &C
Pleasant Grove, Ga. april 5, 1886

Hon John Black
Dear Sir
I have Some old Revolution papers that was found a few months ago in Some old papers of my mother that were brought from North Carolina Some forty or fifty years ago  The papers are Signed by the Secretry [sic] of War Certifying that Joel Terrell was entitled to a pension for wound recd in the Revolutionary war  
I Can Send you the papers or a coppy [sic] of them if desirable  My Mother is the only living heir   I have her certificate that he nor any one has ever recd
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a pension  Please let me know what to do

[stamp]
PENSION
U  APR 9  S
1886 
OFFICE.

Respectly [sic]
Charley Erwin

My other is known by Hon J. E. Brown US Senator
CE
pLEASANT gROVE
fORSYTH cO gEO
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Old war Div.
Inv. Ex'r.
Department of the Interior
PENSION OFFICE.
Return this letter with your reply.  Washington, D.C.  April 13th, 1886

Sir  
In answer to your enquiry [sic] of the 5th inst. relative to Joel Terrell, I have to State that he was, on account of wounds, inscribed as pensioner on the rolls for North Carolina, and from your description of one of the papers brought by your mother from North Carolina to Georgia, there can be no doubt that it is a certificate of the pension which allowed to him and upon which he was enabled to draw the same from December 1813 during his life time.
There is no law existing under which his children or other heirs have any claim for a pension after his decease.
Your attention is invited to the enclosed printed circular
Very respectfully

Commissioner

Mr. Charley Erwin
Pleasant Grove
Forsyth Co
Georgia
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O. W. & Y Div.
MG  Ex'r.
Old War No. 14664
Joel Terrell

Department of the Interior
PENSION OFFICE
Washington, D. C.  April 22, 1886

Sir:
I have the honor to request that you will please furnish this Office with a statement of payments made to John [sic] Terrell, pensioned Dec 27, 1816, North Carolina roll under Act of April 18th 1814

Very respectfully
John C Black
Commissioner
[illeg.] Third Auditor
U. S Treasury Dept.
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[Stamp]

THIRD AUDITOR'S OFFICE
PENSION DIVISION
APR 22, 1886
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War Department
I certify that in conformity with the Law
of the United States of the eighteenth day of April,  1814 -
Joel Terrell, late a privet [private]-- in the army of
the United States,
is inscribed on the pension list, Roll of the North Carolina Agency, at the rate of three dollars, thirty three cents per month, to commence on the eighteenth day of December, one thousand eight hundred and thirteen.

Given at the War office of the United States,
this twenty seventh day of December,
one thousand eight hundred and sixteen,
Geor [George] Graham
Acting secretary of War
Countersigned
William Lambert
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This pension granted by the act of 18th Apl [April] 1814 in favour of Joel Terrell of Rutherford by N. C was for wounds in the revolutionary war at $3.33 per month from December 18th 1813 - the endorsement as to commencement of increased rate is per act of 24th April 1816
J Rickens
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Joel Terrell is entitled to
receive 5 dollars, 33 1/3 Cents
per month, from the 24th
day of April, 1816
---------
Payments to be made
semi-annually on the
4th March, and 4th Sept
in each year, by Sherwood
Heaywood [Haywood], Esqr agent
for paying invalid
pensions.
Raleigh, North Carolina
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JBH
Treasury Department,
THIRD AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
Washington, D.C., April 23rd, 1886
 Encl

Sir:
In reply to your letter of 22nd mch., I have to state that the records of this Office show last payment in case of Joel Terrell, a pensioner, on North Carolina roll as $5 1/3 per month for Sept. 1087.
The books of this Office show that pensioner  died 26 Dec. 1809 and indicate payment to that date but no voucher is found to verify such payment.
The Vouchers upon which payments were made from date of commencement Viz. 18 Dec. 1813 are not found, having been consumed by fire in 1833--  Letter herewith returned--
Very respectfully,
Jno. Williams
Auditor

The Hon. Commis of Pensions.
M.B.
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Pension Office
April 10th, 1856

Sir
In answer to your letter of 17th ultimo I have to inform you that the children of Joel Potter are not entitled to any arrears of pension, unless his widow was married to him before the year 1794, if she died after July 7th, 1838: and if she died before that time she must have been married to him before his last service in the revolutionary war.
Joel Terrell was an invalid pensioner on the North Carolina roll, but as the papers in his case are not on our files, supposed to have been destroyed by the British in 1814, there is no means of identifying his service, and I therefore regard it as useless for his children to prosecute any claim  Grandchildren are not entitled to arrears.

J. W. Terrell Esq
Qualla Town
N.C.
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1907 Oct. 26 - History to Mrs. J. S. Tomlinson
#1 Plymouth, 11th Ct. N. W. Washington D.C. by
order of Mr. Marsh- Courtroom- C
1915 Aug. 25. Hist to Mrs. Walter Thomas
1917 Nov. 8. Hist. to Mrs. John F. Barnhill
1939. June 27 - Hist to Tom J. Terrell  MB

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[illeg. initials crossed through]
Revolutionary [crossed through]

INVALID.
File No. 14,664
Joel Terrell
Priv. U.S.A.
Act:
Index:--Vol. 1, Page 371
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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Joel Terrell
M 
Rev-rec [?]
v

Blakely, Ga.
Aug, 21 - 1919 -
Pension Department,
Washington, D.C,

Gentlemen:
I wrote you some time ago, requesting the data recorded in Pension Dept., as to family, of my ancesto Edward ["negative" written above "Edward"] Terrell of Virginia, who served in the American Revolution as Sergeant in Capt. Steed's
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Company, Virginia Militia  He died in Culpepper County.
I wished to know the name of his wife and children, if given where pension was issued-- I have not yet had a reply from you, and I write to ask you to send me also, re your reply, the family data you have on Joel Terrell of Virginia
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Joel Terrell or Terrill, was placed on the Pension Roll of Wake County, North Carolina in 1813-- He was born in Charlottesville, Va, and died in N. Car--
I wish the family data of these two ancestors of mine for the correct compiling of my family Genealogy, I am a descendant of Elizabeth Terrill of Virginia, who married Wm. Wilkins [Williams?]
Will you kindly do me
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the favor in looking into these two soldiers record and let me hear what family data is recorded  I thank you very much, for a prompt reply-

Yours respectfully
Mrs. Walter Thomas
Blakely Georgia

[stamp]
PENSION 
D
U.   AUG   S.
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      1915
OFFICE.
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1812

[Stamp]
RECORD DIVISION
OCT 30 1917

[STAMP]
U.S. PENSION OFFICE
OCT 29 1917
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Rev 1. MBH [?]     Indianapolis Ind.
                            Oct. 27. 1917

Pension Dept.
Dept of Interior
Wash, D. C.

[stamp]
RECORD
OCT 30 1917
DIVISION

Please send copy of pension applied for by Joel Terrell in 1813.

Your Truly
(Mrs. John F.)  Celeste T. Barnhill
1933 N. Delaware St.
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April 24, 1886

Madam [crossed through]  Sir:--
In response to your ["the" crossed through]  personal reference ["by  Hon. Allen D. Candler crossed through] of the ["your" crossed through] affidavit of Mr. Arthur Erwin Wilks, Evelina A. Erwin of Floyd Co., Ga., relative to a ["your" crossed out] claim to pension and arrears of pension on account of the Service of Mrs. Erwin's father, Joel Terrel [sic], in the War of the Revolution, I have the honor to advise you that the records of this office show that he was granted a pension from Dec. 18, 1813 at the rate of $3.33 per month, and that the rate was increased to $5.33 1/3 per month under the provisions of the act of Apl. 24, 1816, and that the records of the Ofc. of the Third Auditor of the Treasury, the bureau charged with the settlement of
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2) ["to" crossed out] accounts ["of office engaged in" crossed out] 
relative to the pay-
ment of pensions, 
indicate that ["your" crossed out] the 
[illegible, crossed out] soldier received his pension regularly
to the date of his death,
Dec, 26, 1819.  Therefore
["no person can be en-" crossed out]
["titled to any arrears of" crossed out]
under his claim for pension
["pension" and remainder of illegible line crossed out]
["of the service and" crossed out]
["disability of your father/ Mr. Terrel" crossed out]
It does not appear 
that Mrs. Martha Terrel, the 
widow of ["your father' crossed out] Joel Terrel filed
the evidence to establish
her right to pension, nor
that she ever ["filed" crossed out] made a
claim therefor,  It
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3) Follows necessarily
that no pension
was due her.
The law makes
no provision for pen
sion to the children
or heirs at law,
of Revolutionary
soldiers.
The pension certifi-
cate, which is referred
to as a pay-roll, does
not show that any pen-
sion is still due.  It
is returned, as Mrs.
Erwin may desire to
retain it.
Hon: Allen D. Candler
House of Reps.
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TOM J. TERRAL
ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
WALLACE BUILDING
LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS
June 10, 1939

[STAMP]
Received
JUN 12 1939
MAIL SUB-DIV
VETS ADM 74

Veterans Administration
washington, D.C.

Gentlemen:

I am very anxious to ascertain whether Edward Terrell, Terral or Terrill fought in the Revolutionary war. And, from what state he was when he enrolled as a soldier. Do you have any records that would show that he was from Mississippi? Do you have any records that would show that any Terral, Terrell enrolled as a soldier in the Revolutionary war who was from the state of Mississippi? If so, kindly give me all the facts in connection this you can.

You have any man by the name of Terrell or Terral from Virginia by the name of Terrell or Terral, the name, etc.

The records in the war department show that a Henry Terrell having been born in Virginia was a captain in the 5th Virginia regiment during the Revolutionary war also that a man by the name of Joel Terral enlisted in the 8th Connecticut Regiment. I wish you would be good enough to furnish me with a complete history of any of these facts as whether they have connections in Mississippi.
( S. 14664 only one of any So [Southern], State )

I am attempting to trace a relationship to the Terrell or Terral family.

I was born in Louisiana, attended school in Mississippi and Kentucky University, and served this state as governor. Your kindness to cooperate with me in giving me a full and
complete history of the Terral or Terrell families will be so much appreciated.

I fully understand of course that Mississippi was in most part of Georgia during that time.

Thank you very much for your kindness.

Very sincerely yours,
[Signature]
Tom J. Terral

TJT:GS
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TOM J. TERRAL
ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
WALLACE BUILDING
LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS
June 13, 1939

Veterans Administration
Washington, D. C.

Gentlemen:
I over looked adding to my letter which I have just previously written you that I would be so happy to have the information whether Edward Young Terral of either Georgia or
Mississippi was ever enlisted as a soldier during the Revolutionary war, how long he served, and when enlisted and discharged, and
what rank held, if any.

I wish to again thank you for whatever information you may have on the subject.

Very sincerely yours,
[Signature]
Tom J. Terral

TJT:GS

[STAMP]
Received
JUN 16 1939
MAIL SUB-DIV
VETS ADM 74
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Joel Terrell
S. 14664

June 27, 1939
BA-J/MMHF:MIB

Mr. Tom J. Terral
Wallace Building
Little Rock, Arkansas

Dear Sir:
all


Reference is made to your letters in which you request the Revolutionary War records of all soldiers with your surname who resided in Georgia, Mississippi and Virginia You designate Edward or Edward Young Terrell, Henry and Joel, and furnish a citation from the War Department setting forth military service of a Joel Terral in the Connecticut troops, in whom you would be interested, also did he ever live in Mississippi.

Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited trained clerical force available for furnishing such information, it has been impossible, no matter how great the desire to do so, to make for one person or organization a series of investigations and
reports.

The Revolutionary War records of this office show that November 24, 1936, you were furnished the record of Richmond Terrell (R.10459) and on that date were informed that no claim for pension or bounty land is
on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of any soldier with surname Terral, or other spelling, which claim was made from the State of Mississippi.

Another search of those records has been made and no claim for pension or bounty land found based upon service in the Revolutionary War of an Edward, Young or Edward Young Terrell, nor of a Henry Terrell.

Only one claim for pension has been found based upon service of a Joel Terrell in the Connecticut troops, and it is not shown in the
papers in that claim that he ever resided in the South. 

In the effort to aid you somewhat in your research, the record of Simon Terrell (S. 32006), of Georgia, is furnished you herewith,
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and that of the only Joel Terrell (S. 14664), of any Southern State. All spellings of the surname were used in the search of the records.

Very truly yours

A.D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator

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Rev. War Section.

August 25, 1925.

Mrs. Walter Thomas,
Blakely, Georgia.

Madam:
In reply to your letter dated the 21st instant, you are advised that from the papers on file in claim, Invalid File NO. 14,664, it appears that Joel Terrell, a Private of the United States Army (officers' name and dates and places of enlistment and discharge not shown), was granted a pension for disability (not specified) incurred during the Revolutionary War ["incurred during the Revolutionary War" crossed through], at the rate of $3 1/3 per month, from December 16, 1813, increased to $5 1/3 per month under Act of April 24, 1816, as a resident of Wake County, North Carolina, and that he died in Rutherford County, North Carolina, December 16, 1819, leaving four children (names not mentioned) and a widow, Martha Terrell who died in Rutherford County, North Carolina, March 10, 1839.  Neither their ages nor dates and places of birth and marriages are stated.
In 1856, J. W. Terrell stated that his Grandfather Terrell, was wounded at the battle of Guilford. 

[handwritten in right margin]
no proof of what war
in original papers-
so use [?] it further down see grandsons statement X
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In 1885, Evelina A. Erwin, aged eighty-five years, a resident of Floyd County, Georgia, stated that she was the daughter and only heir of Joel and Martha Terrell.  She was the wife of Arthur Erwin whom she married January 18, 1825, in Rutherford County, North Carolina.
In 1866, their son Charley Erwin, resided at Pleasant Grove, Forsyth County, Georgia.
 Very respectfully,
E. C. Tieman
Acting Commissioner.

This soldier was first pensioned under the Act approved Apl. 18, 1814 pursuant to the Act of Apl. 10, 1806 granting pension to persons disabled by known wounds received in the revolutionary war & Since

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