Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R 8656, for John Reed, South Carolina
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( 3-1776 ) 

SERVICE 
S.C. 

Reed , John or Reid 
Elizabeth  

NUMBER 
R. 8656

CONTENTS
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Greenville County SS.  I do hereby authorize  & empower  John Henderson to travel for and in my place and  behalf to search all the offices which may be necessary in the State or elsewhere for certain Indents which are due me for  service in the  State troops in the late  War for  which I have garnered no satisfaction on my acct. whatever . Also the same on acct. of George Reed for his services therein  for which he has not rec'd any part thereof  & I do hereby  abide by the  Transactions of the  said John Henderson in and about the same in every respect whatever as though I was personally present . Given from under my hand & seal this 29th of Dec. 1792 .  John Reid (signed / sealed ) Acknowledged before me Jno. B. Grigsby ( signed )
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State of Kentucky County of Garrard
On this the 18th day of July 1853 before me C. D. Clinton Esquire a Justice of the peace within and for the County and State aforesaid personally appeared Rachel Carpenter a resident of this County of the highest respectability aged 65 years past who being first duly sworn as the law directs on her oath makes the following declaration to wit that she is the daughter of John Reid
deceased who was a Captain in the South Carolina State Troops in Sumter's [Brigadier General Thomas Sumter] Brigade, [Colonel Wade] Hampton's  Regiment she believes, and served not quite a year in that
capacity and served some 3 or 4 years as private in Martin's [Captain Nathaniel Marshal Martin] troop and Polk's [Lieutenant Colonel William Polk] Regiment as she has always been informed by her said father who performed the above service in the Revolutionary War and of Elizabeth Reid his wife both now deceased that the said John Reid and Elizabeth her
father and mother were married in the Parish, County or Shire of Down Ireland about the year 1773 and that her said Father died in Garrard County State of Kentucky in February 1808 leaving the said Elizabeth this affiant's mother a widow who did not again marry but died a widow of the
said John Reid on the 3rd day of July 1843 in the County and State above named. She further states her said mother left surviving her this affiant who is the only surviving child of her
deceased Father John Reid and Elizabeth his wife. She states the reason her mother never applied for a pension she had for some years previous to her death lost her mind that since her said mother died she has spoken to several agents to attend to the pension due her said mother at her decease but she never could get anything done that her said Father and Mother had a child 2 or 3 years old when they landed in the United States at Savannah in the first of the war and moved out some distance and her said Father entered the service and served through the war that they moved from Greenville district South Carolina when they came to Kentucky that she was 5
years old when they removed to Kentucky. She was informed by them that Richmond Kirkendoll married her oldest sister & came to Kentucky and settled in Garrard
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County near them  and her said sister died in  a few years that she had often heard her said Father  comment about his  Revolutionary scrapes that she makes this application under the Act of Congress passed 4 July 1836  and any other act or resolution that may embrace the case July 18th 1853. Rachel Carpenter ( signed ) 

State of Kentucky County of Garrard . I, G. D. Clinton  a Justice of the peace for this County do certify that Rachel Carpenter  a resident citizen of this County  of high respectability  for  truth , virtue , and honesty  personally appeared  and made oath to the foregoing statements they being first read to her by me and subscribed her name to the same in my presence and I have no doubt of the truth  of her foregoing declaration . I further certify  I am not interested ins said pension nor  acting as agent for same July 18th 1853. G D Clinton  JP  

State of Kentucky Garrard County 
I, James H. Letcher  Judge of the County Court of the County and State above mentioned do certify  that the most satisfactory evidence has this day been exhibited to me in open Court for the  County above stated by the accompanying dispositions of Andrew Reid , Elizabeth Kirkendall , Richard Kirkendall and Martha  Maceberry and accompanying papers that Elizabeth Reid the wife of John Reid  both now deceased has now but one living child  Rachel Carpenter and that said John Reid died in this County in the year 1808  and that his wife Elizabeth Reid died in this County the 3 day of July 1843 and that said John Reid  served several months as Capt. in the State of South Carolina in the Revolutionary war and  some 1 or 4 years as private and from registration must have been married by the Revolutionary War  and the  assertion of Richard Kirkendall  etc. That I am not interested in said pension nor acting as agent . 
James H. Letcher ( signed ) PJGCC 

State of Kentucky Garrard County  Nov. 7 1853  I William B Mason Clerk of the County Court of County and State above named do certify that James H Letcher who has given the above certificate is Judge of the County Court  of the County and State  above mentioned and  subscribed and sworn as the law  directs and the signature purporting to be his is genuine . In testimony whereof I have hereunto set  my name as Clerk of said County Court and affixed the seal of said Office and  that I   have no interest in said pension nor acting as agent . November 7. 1853. William B Mason ( signed ) Clk
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[ State of Kentucky County of Garrard ] ss. I, G. D. Clinton a Justice of the peace for the County and State above mentioned do certify that Richmond Kirkendall , Andrew Reid & Elizabeth Kirkendall resident citizens of this County personally appeared before me and made oath to the foregoing statement understandingly and subscribed their names to the same  , I further certify they are all persons of the highest respectability  and their oaths should be respected. I further certify that I have no interest in said pension nor acting as agent. Given under my hand this 18th July 1853. F.D. Clinton ( signed ) JP  County of Garrard State of Kentucky ] ss. I William V Mason  Clerk of the County Court of  Garrard County , Ky do certify that G.D. Clinton whose name appears to the above subject is an acting Justice of the peace for the County duly commissioned and  sworn as the law directs that the signature purporting to be his is genuine and that his signature to the annexed  certificate and affidavit of Rachel Carpenter was sworn to before him and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine . In testimony whereof I have  hereunto set my name  as  Clerk of said County Court  and affixed the seal of said County Court this  Nov. 8th  1853. William B Mason ( signed / sealed ) Clk
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[ State of Kentucky County of Garrard ] ss. On this the 18th day of July 1853 personally appeared before me  G.D. Clinton a Justice of the peace for this County and State aforesaid Richmond Kirkendall a resident of the  County  aged eighty seven years who being first duly sworn as the law directs on his oath makes the following statement that some 2 or 4 years before the close of the Revolutionary  War he became acquainted with John Reid and his wife Elizabeth Reid ( both deceased ) that his first acquaintance was in Greenville district South Carolina  though the had seen said Reid previous to that in the service of the United States acting as private that said Reid and wife Elizabeth  has some three children when his family came to Greenville district South Carolina where I was born and raised until  he moved to Kentucky which was a few years after the Revolutionary war that he often seen the above John Reid in actual service of the United States acting as Captain in Sumter's Brigade he thinks not more than a year if that long that from what he seen and heard from Reid above named and the soldiers of the army  the above John Reid  must of some several years served as private he the said Reid and wife Elizabeth  shortly after  the close of the Revolutionary War  moved to Garrard County Kentucky  in company with him that they all settled close together and lived neighbors to their said deaths that they  John Reid and Elizabeth Reid deceased did and always from his first acquaintance  lived together as man and wife and was reputed as such and was  persons of the highest respectability that the above John Reid departed this life in the year 1808 that he was present and saw him buried and that his wife Elizabeth  Reid survived
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him her said husband John Reid and never married to her death and died a widow on the 3 day of July 1843 that he was present and saw her buried and  that he examined the date on he tombstone this day which has the above date  3 July 1843  and that  the only living children of the said John Reid and Elizabeth Reid  his wife both deceased is Rachel  Carpenter  who is now applying for the pension due her said Mother at he decease and that the above Elizabeth Reid wife of the said John Reid deceased for many years previous to her death had lost her mind , the said Elizabeth  Reid died in this County and he knows the claim to be a last one and ought to be allowed that he has no interest in said pension claim nor acting as agent for  same. July 18th 1853. Richmond Kirkendall ( signed ) [ State of Kentucky ] County of Garrard ] ss. On this the 18th day of July  1854 personally appeared before  me G.D. Clinton a Justice of the peace for this County Elizabeth Kirkendall being first duly sworn as the law directs on her oath makes the following statement  that she has from her earliest recollection  known John Reid and Elizabeth  Reid  both now deceased  that they  would be about 75 or 80 years old that she has often heard the said John Reid and wife Elizabeth  say they was married in Ireland and moved to the United States shortly after the commencement of the Revolutionary War and had  one child when they landed at Savannah  and moved out  without stopping to the State of South Carolina and said Reid entered the service of the United States and served some years as a private and the
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part of his time he acted as captain that the said John Reid died in Garrard County Kentucky some 45 or 6 year since that she was present and saw him die and that his wife Elizabeth Reid lived a widow to her death never marrying after her said husbands death that she died in Garrard County the 3 day of July Eighteen hundred and forty three (1843) that she was present and saw her buried and that the only surviving children of the said John Reid and wife Elizabeth deceased is Rachel Carpenter who is applying for a pension due her deceased mother Elizabeth Reid on account of the Revolutionary services of her deceased husband John Reid deceased and that she has no interest in said pension
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Elizabeth Kirkendall

State of Kentucky
County of Garrard
On this the 18 day of July 1853 before me G.D. Clinton a Justice of the peace for the County and State above named personally appeared Andrew Read a resident of this County aged 44 years past who being first duly sworn as the law directs on his oath
makes the following statements that he was     raised a neighbor to John Reid and Elizabeth his wife both now deceased of this county said John Reed died before his recollection and his wife Elizabeth and family remained neighbour to her said death which took place the 3 day of July
Eighteen hundred and forty three that he was present and saw her buried and letters & her toomstone which he has this day examined and bears the above date 3 July 1843 that he knows George Reed who was a Revolutionary officer and Brother to the above John Reid and often told him of his Brother services as private for some years in the State of South Carolina and near a year as Captain that said John Reids wife Elizabeth lived to her death a widow and left only one surviving child Rachel Carpenter a resident of this County and now applying for a pension due her deceased Mother Elizabeth Reid that he is in no wise interested in said pension nor [illegible] as yours July 18th 1853.
Andrew Read

Sideways middle of page - [illegible] Elizabeth Reid widow, July 18, 1853
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Charles C Tucker Nov 28 1853
C. C. Tucker 25th Jany: 1854.
Let [illegible] May 17  /58?
C. C. Tucker, May 1  /54
C. C. Tucker 15th July 1854.
To the same July 22/54
C. C. Tucker 28 July 1854.
to same August 14 /54
Same Sept 8, 1854

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Important
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8008
Elizabeth Reed decd
Widow of John KY
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[illegible] C. Tucker Nov 28 1853-[illegible]
          "         "       "        25 Jny 1854- Rhett
                     claimant May 17  1854- Hill
Chas C Tucker           May 29 1854- Hill
       "     "     "                 15  July 1832 - Rhett
      "     "     "                 July 22    1854 - Geddis
      "     "     "                 28 July    1834 - Rhett
      "     "     "                 Aug 14     1854 - Ged
      "     "     "                 Sept 8      1854-[illegible]
      "     "     "                 Dec 16      1854-[illegible]
      "     "     "                 June 3.       1855-[illegible]


July 4 1836
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8656
Elizabth Reed
Service: wid of John

            REJECTED
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8656

Elizabeth Reed
Service: wid of John
REJECTED
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State of South Carolina ⎬ 
Greenville County           ⎬

George Reed of Union County
and State aforesaid Personally
came before me and made Oath that  he served as a Sargant ten months under the command of Captain Samuel Neeley of Colonel William Hills Regiment of State Troops, and this deponant further said that he never
gave any orders to any person nor sold nor disposed
of his wages due him for said service Receipt John Reed and to whom he sold his wages and gave him an order
to draw the same. Sworn to the 15th day of October 1791
George Reed

George Salmon J. P
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Original  order of
John Reed
Dec. 29, 1792


George Reed
Declaration
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Act of S.C. - 26. Feb. '82 -
Sec. 2. Every able bodied recruit between 16 & 45 who shall enlist for 3 years shall be entitled
to receive for each & every years service the bounty of one sound negro between the age of 10 & 40 one on enlisting, another at commencement of 2d year & 3d at expiration of 3d year.
Sec. 3. Those who procure 25 recruits in 2 months shall receive as a gratuity one negro ,& those who procure 30 - two negroes.-
Sec. 6. as some soldiers now in service have adhered to their country and are now in service, these benefits are extended to such.
 
Cooper Statutes, Vol. 4. p. 514.
--------------------------------------------
Act 11; Sept. 1779 -
Every able bodied man who shall enlist as private for 21 months on Contl. Establishment shall
have a bounty of $500 paid in hand & a further
bounty of $2000 at the end of faithful service
Sec. 2. Militia shall be called out within a month & the above offer made them.
Vol. 4. p. 502.
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Dr Sir
You will confer a great favor by informing me 
what is done with the claim of Elizabeth Reed widow of John Reed a Revolutionary Soldier and officer, my Father and Mother. I had an amended statement with proof sent to my agent at W. City D.C., C.C. Tucker in Jany last and haven't heard from him yet though often had business matters to to know what an position was made of the
claim I think it more than probable Mr. Tucker is dead or removed I hope to have your attention soon to the above as I am the only living heir please let me know what further proof is required. I remind yours truly the claim
was made out in Garrard County Ky by me
please correspond with J. M. Smith
of Mt. Vernon Kentucky

Rachel Carpenter
By
James M. Smith 
of Mt Vernon 
Rockcastle County
Kentucky

May 8th 1854

Honl Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
D.C.
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Washington City 7. August 1854
Hon. L. P. Waldo,
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir:
I have the honor to
enclose herewith, a Certificate of the Comptroller General of South Carolina, which gives additional light on a material point in the
case of Elizabeth Reed, Widow of John, of Kentucky, Act of 1836.
In considering your letters to me of 22d & 28th ult. it occurred
to me that the "Indents "named in the Certificate on file might
not have been received by Capt. Reed, and I wrote the Comptroller
to enquire whether his Books would show the disposition made
of the "Indents,' and also, whether he received a negro. (See copy of my letter herewith, attached to his answer.)
As it appears from his Certificate that the accounts are
missing, and that they were usually given to another person, it 
is probable these Indents were given to some person who never
accounted for them, or perhaps denied having received them, or
they may never have been delivered to any person, but have been lost.
This certificate further gives us important light on the
subject of that negro:-- it says Capt. John Reid served for
the time of five months as Captain, retired by permission, the
pay & Bounty for which was two grown Negroes, and that when
the Pay Roll was made out one grown negro as due him.

Without claiming that he served as a Private after
he was a captain, it is respectfully submitted whether this
last Certificate does not show that he must have received one
negro, as stated in his Daughter's Declaration, which would leave
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an inference that payment in negroes was made by virtue
of some law passed before that of January 1782, referred
to in your letter of 22d ult.--
It is also respectfully suggested that the order given
by Reid to John Henderson is capable of a different construction
from that which your office has placed upon it. you understand
him to mean that he has never received any satisfaction
for any service: Whereas it is clear that he received a negro
for part of his service, and suspected that 'Indents' were
issued, else why would he have given an order to "search all
the Offices for Indents.' He says nothing about money, nor
negro-- he may have received money and negro for his
earlier services, but now (knowing the State had no money)
he wanted "Indents which were due him for the part of
his services for which he had received no satisfaction; which
of course was the latter part, or at any rate a balance

With this additional evidence, & these explanations
I would respectfully solicit your allowance of five
months as Captain of Cavalry and one year and seven
months as a soldier of Cavalry, as it is probable he 
served much longer in both capacities.

Very Respectfully
Yr. Ob. Sv

Chas C Tucker
Attorney.
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an inference that payment in negroes was made by virtue
of some law passed before that of January 1782, referred
to in your letter of 22d at-

It is also respectfully suggested that the order given
by Reid to John Henderson is capable of a different construction
from that which your office has placed upon it. You understand
him to mean that he has never received any satisfaction
for any service: Whereas it is clear that he received a Negro
for part of his service, and suspected that "Indents were
issued, the why would he have given an order to "search all
the Offices for Indents". He says nothing about money, nor
negro-- he may have received money and negro for his
earlier services, but now (knowing the State had no money
he wanted "Indents" which were due him for the part of
his services for which he had received no satisfaction, which
of course was the latter part, or at any rate a balance

With this additional evidence, & these explanations
I would respectfully solicit your allowance of five
months as Captain of Cavalry and one year and seven
months as a soldier of Cavalry, as it is probable he
served much longer in both capacities.
Very Respectfully
Yr Ob St.
Chas C. Tucker
Attorney
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No 8,008,
_________
Elizabeth Reed,
Wid of John
_________
Ky
July 4, 1836
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Hon. Loren P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir.
I send herewith additional evidence for the Claim of Elizabeth Reed dec. widow of John of Kentucky under the Act of July 4, 1836.
It will be seen that the declaration is made before G.D. Clinton one of the County Court of Garrard Co. Ky. who certifies that by reason of age and bodily infirmity the declarant is unable to appear in open Court.

In proof of the services of the solider their [there] is filed Certificates from the Comptroller General of South Carolina stating the payments made for the Revolutionary services of John Reed as a Captain and private and in proof of the identity between the soldier there named and the father of the declarant there is presented a paper signed by John Reed having references to the pay for his services also the testimony of Richard Kirkendall who saw the soldier in service as a private and as a Captain in Sumter's brigade and the testimony of Richard
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Kirkendall and Elizabeth Kirkendall to the reputation of John Reed as a Soldier of the Revolution and to declarations respecting his services made before his death which took place long prior to the enactment of Pension laws.

The marriage having taken place in Europe the impracticability of obtaining record evidence is obvious but that it took place before the soldier's service will I think be found conclusively proved by the testimony on file.

Very respectfully
Your Obt Servt.
Chas. C. Tucker
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Elizth  Reed Decd
Comptroller Certificate
August 24, 1854
________________-
L. 3. T. 19 Starting
Dec. 11, 1787.
Sumpter Brigade


Laten

[illegible]
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Comptroller Generals Office
Columbia So. Ca. August 24th 1854

No 2092, Issued 12 Dec 81 to Jno Reed L3. 19 Stg arrears of Cloath &
service in Sumters Brigade pr certif 
from Commr for adjusting claims of
said Brigade. Interest 5/6.
I do hereby certify the foregoing to be a true copy as taken from the Records of this Office
For Comptroller General
PS. Jacobs
Deputy 
No seal of Office
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John Reed - 

Private 10 months

One negro due.
Comptrollers Certificate
explaining the ten months
review
August 24, 1854  No 2

[illegible]
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Comptroller Generals Office
Columbia So. Ca. August 24 1854

It is hereby certified that in a Pay Roll
for Captain Nathl Marshall Martins
Troop in the Regiment of Light Dragoons, Genl Sumters Brigade certified before [illegible] Judge Advocate Camden So Ca
March 16th 1782, it appears that John Reed served as private Ten (10) months and that a grown negroe was due him at that time for pay and Bounty and that said Pay Roll is found on file in this Office
For Comptroller General
P.S. Jacobs
Deputy
(No Seal of Office)
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[letterhead]
CHARLES C. TUCKER,
Attorney  [illegible] Claimants
AND AGENT FOR OBTAINING
PENSIONS, BOUNTY LAND, ARREARS OF PAY, EXTRA PAY, PRIZE MONEY &c FOR MILITARY and NAVAL SERVICE.
Revolutionary, Naval, Invalid, and Half pay Pensions obtained, also bounty
Land for services in all the wars in which the United States have been engaged, and for the services of Volunteers  of the Texas Revolution 
Will attend to the prosecution and recovery of all claims in law or equity,
against the United States, before Congress of the Executive Departments, against Foreign Governments, before Boards of Commissioners, and to the settlement of accounts with the State, Treasury, War, Navy, Interior, and Post Office Departments, and obtain the remission of fines, penalties, and forfeitures for alleged violations of the revenue, post offer and other laws. elections and legal business attended to with promptness throughout the United States and Canadas. Points inaccessible to banks and broker
reached and claims collected a reasonable rates. Land Warrants and Land Scrip bought and sold

General Claim and Pension Agency.
Washington, D. C. July 13. 1854.
Hon. L.P. Waldo,
Commissioner of Pensions.
Sir:
My letter to you of 24th May last, enclosing additional affidavits in relation to the claim of Elizabeth Reed, deceased, of Kentucky,
Widow of John. Act 4 July 18__
has, I fear, been mislaid, as no reply has been received, as many cases filed since, have received the attention of your Office.
As the additional affidavits and arguments are conclusive, I beg your early examination and admission ┃
of that claim, and
Have the honor to be,
Very Respectfully
Your OB. Servt.
Chas C. Tucker
By E.F. Brown
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Richmond Kirkendall
Jany. 2, 1854
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Greenville County SC
I do hereby authorize and empower
John Henderson to transact for and in my place and behalf
to search all the offices which may be necessary in this state or
else where for certain Indents which are due me for services
in the State troops in the late war for which I have received no
satisfaction or any act whatever also the same on account
of George Reed for his services there in for which he has not
received any part thereof and I do hereby abide by the transactions
of the said John Henderson in and about the same
in any respect whatever as though I was personally present given
from under my hand and seal this 27th of Decr 1792
John Reid asked before me John B Gregsby

State of South Carolina Greenville Co sat George Reed of
Union Co and State aforesaid personally came before me
and made oath that he served as a Sargent ten months under the
command of Capt Samuel Neely of Col W Hills Regt of State troops
and this deponent further saith that he never gave any order
to any person nor sold nor disposed of his wages due him
for said services except John Reid to whom he sold his wages
and gave him an order to draw the same from 6th 15th day of
October 1791 George Reed    George Salmon J P

State of Kentucky
County of Garrard SS
On this the 2 day of January 1854 personally appeared
before me G. D. Clinton one of the County Court of the County and
State above mentioned Richard Kirkendall aged 87 years
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who being first duly sworn as as the law directs upon him
oath make the following statement that the original of the forgoing
have been in his possession since the death of John Reid witness
was present and saw them both make oath to the same and
signed their names to the same the power was never given to Henderson
as said John Henderson died soon after gave power the soldier up to his death told witness that he had never received his pay and requested
witness to hold the papers stating that his children might one
day get the money - witness gave a statement some time in July
last as to the death marriage and service of said John Reid witness
lived by said Reid and wife Elizabeth in Greenville Co. South Carolina during the last 3 or 4 years of the Revolutionary  war and was often at said Reids house while Solder was in the Service aforesaid and frequently stayed at Soldiers House when he visited his family that Soldier would frequently bring his fellow associates home with him and witness stayed to hear them converse as to their fighting scrapes with the tories and British that witnesses first wife was the daughter of Said John & Elizabeth Reed that she has long since died. that witness removed to Ky with soldier and remained their neighbour to their death. soldier died in Garrard County Ky in 1808 he was present and saw him buried. that claimant Elizabeth died the 5 July 1843 in Garrard County Kentucky he was present and saw her buried. witness  examined the date of her death a few days [illegible] which was date 3 July 1843 from witnesses own knowledge and from what he heard the soldiers and said Reed say said John Reid served near a year as Capt
in Sumpters Brigade for he saw him in actual service and must of served some 3 or 4 years as private that soldier band together as man and wife from his first [illegible]
up to this said oaths and was so reputed and that the only surviving child of the said John Reid and wife Elizabeth now living is Rachel Carpenter who is applying for the amount due her said mother from the government. Jany 2. 1854
Richmond KirKendall
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State of Kentucky County of Garrard 
I G. D. Clinton one of the County Court  of the County and State above written do certify that Richmond Kirkendall personally appeared before me and made oath to the foregoing statement [illegible] to further Certify he is a man of high respectability and resident of this County and the forgoing statement was read  to him by me and he swore to the same understanding and his name was signed in my presents to the same
Jany 2 1854
G. D. Clinton JP

State of Kentucky Garrard County 
I William B Mason Clerk of the County
Court of Garrard County Kentucky do certify that G.D. Clinton whose
name appears to the above certificate is a Justice of the peace of this County and one of the County Court of said County and State duly Commissioned  and sworn as the law directs to administer oaths and was at the time of so signing his name I further certify the signature purporting to be his is genuine 
in testimony whereof I hereunto set my name as Clerk of said County
and State and affix the seal of said County Court at Office in Lancaster this 3rd day of January AD 1854
William B Mason  Clerk
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Comptrollers letter
Sept. 4. 1854
Indent to John Reid N0 646
Do                 Do        .3087

to different pensions
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Comptroller Generals Office
Columbia S.C. Sept 4th 1854
Dear Sir
I reply to your letter of 31st ult
I can inform you that after having inspected the Journal of the House of Representatives which is in care of the Librarian W. F. Arthur we found a *Report of Committee appointed by both Houses, on the claim of the Soldiers in which is recommended that £80 should be paid for every grown negroe due to the Soldiers in Brig Genl Sumpter & Lt Col Hammonds Regt. This is dated 11th March 1784.-- On the 19th of March
the same year the Journal shows
a Resolution past by the House that
Interest should be allowed the claimant for a certain length of time therein specified-- Mr Arthur Charges 75 cents for a Copy of the Resolution and $1.50 for a copy of the Report. Please select which of those you want. The Pay Bill of the State Troops under Brigadier Genl Sumter shows the following Colonels under his

* We find no Revolution on that date although the Indent shows  different
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Command viz: Wm Hill, Wade Hampton, Henry Hampton, Charles Middleton, John Thomas & William Polk. In answer to your guery whether Col Anderson & Brandon served under Genl Sumter, I will say that it appears that they did not serve under him but under Brig. Genl Pickens. To your query whether the one John Reed in Book S No 646 the same in X 3087, whether either of them could be your John Reid I will answer, that I do not believe that either of them was your John Reid, and from their signatures I am most certain that they were not the same person.
I can further inform you that it appears from the Regimental cloathing Roll of the 1st Regt of State Troops commanded by Lt Col Wade Hampton of April 12th 1782 that Capt Reid served under him
The above & foregoing is all the information I can give you. Should you require any certificate of what I herein have mentioned that I know, please to inform me thereof.
Respectfully
P.S Jacobs
Dep Comp Ge.

Chs  C. Tucker Esq
Washington, D.C.
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C. C. Tucker
Present
July 20, 1854
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Pension Office
July 15th 1854
Sir
I enclose you my report of 29th
May last, in the case of Elizabeth Reed, decd widow of John , of Kentucky, which report you say has not been received by you.
I am Respectfully
Your Obt. Svt,
L P  Waldo
Commissioner

C.C. Tucker, Esq
Present,
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Washington D.C. Nov 22. 1853.
Hon Loren P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir,
I send herewith the claim of Elizabeth Reed (dec) widow of John Reed of Kentucky for a pension under the Act of July 4, 1836.
An early examination of the claim is respectfully
requested.
Very
respectfully
your obt servt
Chas C. Tucker
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Washington City 28th Aug. 1854.

Hon. L.P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pension

Sir:

In reply to your
letter of 14th inst. relative to the claim of Elizabeth Reed,
widow of John, of Kentucky, stating the date of the Pay Roll
of Capt. John Reid, is necessary before determining the application.
of (my ) argument, I have the honor to enclose herewith the
Certificate of the Compt Genl of S.C. of 24th inst. showing that said
five months service as Captain was from 10 April 1781 to 10th
August 1781 and that said Pay Roll was sworn to on 11 Apl '82

Desiring to know the truth of the case, I wrote the Compt
a history of the claim as far as my knowledge extend, and
he has sent me another certificate (which I also enclosed) showing
that a John Reed served as Private in Capt. Martin Troop
in the Light Dragoons of Genl Sumter's Brigade, 10 months, but
does not say when. As the Roll was sworn to 16 March 1782,
and such was often done one or two years after the service,
you will probably admit this as part of the service as private
claimed.

Please observe that these certificates shew that
there must have been some provision for payment in negroes 
previous to the Act of the Legislature of January 1782 referred
to in your letter of 22 ult, and that he need not & probably
did not enlist as a Private after that date.

Your letter of 14th inst. states that the main
objection to the claim is that the Captain and Private named
in the Indents I filed are not the same person. I do not claim
positively that they were, but would respectfully submit that
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as Mrs Carpenter States in her last affidavit that her Father
received some money as well as a negro, and as the order to
Henderson was for 'Indents" which he had never received.,
(probably one or both of these identical, Indents,) and as we
have proven part of her statements, viz: the negro received, and service 5 months Captain and 10 months private; is it not fair
to conclude that the £94 Indent as Private, at least was
him, which would amount to about 3 years, and as they
said he served 3 years Private and one as captain, the
fact of his Pay Roll being sworn to 11 April 182, one year
and one day after his commencement of Captain, may
account for their belief that he served the full year
as Captain

These facts are submitted to your consideration,
trusting that as the Comptroller has furnished
all the facts afforded by his Books, and as important light
has been thrown on the case recently, you will be liberal
in adjusting the claim.

As Mrs Carpenter is about removing to Nebraska, I am
instructed to urge your early decision.

Very Respectfully
Your Obt Servt
Chas C. Tucker
Attorney
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Peterson's Military Heroes of the Revolution
Thomas Sumter
Referring to year 1780, at page 455  - 
"Governor Rutledge promptly sent Sumter a Commission as Brigadier in the Militia. On 30th July he attacked
the British at Rocky Mount."
"On 16th and he captured a British train of wagons  at Carrys Fort " at Fish dam Ford he was assaulted
on 5th Nov -  Sumter  was severely wounded & was conveyed
to North Carolina suspended  in an Ox hide between two horses, where he lay for a long time incapacitated for service.
" Was able to take the field early in 1781.
Retired from active service for a period - During his absence  Battle of Eutaw (8. Sept '81) was fought [illegible]
not present himself his Brigade was & did good service - when he rejoined his command the war was virtually at an end."  p. 456.
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On 18th April (81) "Genl Sumpter expects, by Monday
18th to have upwards of 200   10 months men from
South Carolina & 300 from N.C.

"When Fort Granby was taken & a number of negroes
captured in it, we find the following passages in the [illegible]
orders of 17th May. " Such of the negroes as were taken in
this Garrison as are not claimed by good whigs, & their property
proved, belonging to the tories or disaffected, you will apply to
the fulfilling of your contract with the ten months troops"
Life Maj. Gen. Greene - Vol. 2. P. 125

[right Margin]
Ex [illegible] Pens
South Carolina  & [illegible]
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Washington D C. Jan 27, 1854
Hon Lorin P Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir
I have received the letter from your office under date of January 25th 1854, in reference to the claim of
Elizabeth Reed widow of John of Kentucky under the act of July 4 1836 in which it is alleged that the John Reed to whom two indents were issued in 1794 (evidently intended
for 1784 the true date of their issue) cannot be the John Reed who in 1792 gave a power of Atty to John Henderson authorizing him to Search for certain indent for his services in
the State Troops.
I think that upon a careful examination of the claim it will be found that the circumstances above referred to lead to show that they must have been one and the same
person, and at the same time corroborated to some extent the testimony of one principal
witness R. Kirkendall
As Kirkendall testifies that from his own knowledge and from information derived from the soldier and others that John Reed served
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bout one year as a Captain and three or four
years as a private. It appears by the Certificate
that John Reed received £188 for his services. I
am not aware of the precise amount received
by officers and Soldiers of the South Carolina
State troops. but £188 South Carolina Currency was
certainly not sufficient to pay for one years
service as a Captain, and three years service as a
private

The power of Atty given by John Reed in
1792 authorized John Henderson, to search for
"certain indents which are due me for services
"in the State hoops in the late war for which
"I have received no satisfaction." This certain
ly cannot be considered as an acknowledgment
that he had received no pay for any of his
services. He authorizes his Atty to obtain in-
dents for those services for which he had received
no satisfaction

Do not therefore the certificates, the old
Power of Atty and the testimony of Kirkendall
lend to show that John Reed served as Cap
tain and private that he received pay which
was not, or was believed by the soldier not to
have been sufficient for all his services and
that in 1792 he gave John Henderson authority
to obtain the balance due or believed to have been
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due The Soldier may have received the full amount to which he was entitled by law but remained under the impression that still more was due
It is not claimed that more service
than is indicated by the Comptrollers certificate should be admitted there being no record evidence thereof and it will be found that the Power of Atty given in 1792 accounts for the absence of Record evidence. Having
received no pay for the additional service not named in the Comptrollers certificate there
can be no record of his payment
As your letter does not state upon what is based the allegation that the history given of the soldiers service is borrowed from the Certificate, and that the testimony is spurious and unreliable. I can afford no explanation
The certificates were given after the first declaration, and most of the testimony was prepared and there is no evidence before you showing that other certificates were obtained. The gentleman by whom the claim
was sent me, James M. Smith Esq of Rockcastle Co. Ky has been engaged in preparing Pension Claims for many years. He most certainly be aware that certificates obtained  after the first testimony is prepared
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is not more satisfactory than those forwarded previously
it being known that the second certificate can be
stated as readily as the first, and would not
therefore incur the trouble and expense of twice
obtaining the certificates

In proof that the parties were married or at least living together as man and wife

before the expiration of the soldiers services there is
presented the testimony of Kickendall, that he first
became acquainted with the soldier and his wife three or four years before the close of the Revolution
, and that they then had three children
the testimony of Elizabeth Kirkendall aged 66 years that
at her earliest recollection the parties were living
together as man and wife, and that their oldest
child would if living be 75 or 80 years of age, and
the testimony of Martha Maclary aged 77 years who
was acquainted with the parties upwards of sixty years
and that their oldest child was two years older than
witness. The date for causes stated, it is impracticable
to obtain, but there is certainly abundant
testimony proving that the parties were living to
gether as man and wife, and had children born during 
the Revolution, and before the service claimed was
performed, therefore being in the claim within
the provisions of the act of July 4, 1836
Very Respectfully
Your Obt Servt
Chas.C. Tucker
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Washington City 24th May 1854

Hon. L.P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions

Sir:

Enclosed please find
additional affidavits establishing the claim of
Elizabeth Reed deceased, of Kentucky,
Widow of John,- Act 4 July 1836.

You will observe that Mrs Carpenter states that her Father
always said the State of South Carolina was too poor to pay him for all
his services, that he received some money, and a negro woman (most
likely he bought the negro from some person who took his order on the State,
as she is not certain he received her directly from the State,)that the State
never paid him all, and he said "how much it would help him if he
"could get it;" that her parents were married in Down, Ireland (before the War )
and that her oldest sister, if living, would now be 79, 80 years old.

Also, that she made these statements at the time her first Declaration
was made, but it was thought unnecessary to insert them.  She is
certified to be a Lady of respectability, and for "marry years and orderly
"member of the Presbyterian Church."

Richmond Kirkendall corroborates her statements, and surely
he ought to know something of the matter, for he became acquainted in
the family in 1778 - 9, (being then 11 or 12 years old) was a constant visitor
and afterwards married one of the Daughters, who has since died, and
he married again. At that time, (1778) John & Elizabeth Reid had a
Daughter 6 or 7 years old, as "she could go to the Spring and bring water,"
they were then and always acknowledged as husband and wife, and
must have been married before the service, whether lawfully or not does
not matter, as they came from Ireland in that relation, and so lived and
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were so respected, to his knowledge 30 years, until 1808, when they
were separated by death, after which she remained his Widow until
her death 3rd July 1843, being 35 years longer.
,
Mr Kirkendall also several times saw him inservice (being)
between 1779 and 1782, when Witness was between 12 and 15, an age at
which he would naturally want to "see the Solders," especially his
neighbors) knows he served as Private and Captain, visited his house
while he was gone to the War; and being on the most intimate terms
(as Son in law) during all the remainder of the lives of said John and
Elizabeth Reed, knows that Reed never dew all that was due him.

Allow me to refer you to my letter of 27th January last,
to which no reply has yet been received, and to remark, that the
explanatory affidavit herewith sent confirm me in this belief that
this claim is a just one, that he served three years as Private
and one year as Captain, and that he never was paid in full
for his services. The affair of his obtaining a negro as part pay,
(either by trade, or from the State) and of his giving at Power of
Attorney after the War, to search for indents, or evidences of pay
due him, and the fact that said Power or order is proven to
have been in the family ever since, as John Henderson died soon
after its date, ought surely to satisfy any one that this claim
is not" borrowed from the Certificate."

Please notice further, that Mr Kirkendall in Kentucky
Gentleman, too respectable, and too near his grave to give "Spurious
and unreliable" testimony, and that 14 citizens whose respectability
is attested by the Magistrate and by A.J. Brown, Post Master,
certify to the good standing and high respectability of both Mr
Kirkindall and Mrs Carpenter, all which is duly authenticated.

Now Sir, if you will consider all the facts in the case
candidly, bearing in mind that these individuals are not persons
were raised in a City and accustomed to commercial or legal life,
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were so respected, to his knowledge 30 years, until 1808, when they
were separated by death, after which she remained his widow until
her death, 3d July 1843, being 35 years longer.

Mr Kirkendall also several times saw him inservice (being)
between 1779 and 1782, when Witness was between 12 and 15, an age at
which he would naturally want to see the solders, especially his
neighbors) knows he served as Private and Captain, visited his house
while he was gone to the war; and being on the most intimate terms
as son in law) during all the remainder of the lives of said John and
Elizabeth Reed, knows that Reed never drew all that was due him.
Allow me to refer you to my letter of 27th January last,
to which no reply has yet been received, and to remark that the
explanatory affidavits herewith sent confirm me in this belief that
this claim is a just one, that he served three years as Private
and one year as Captain, and that he never was paid in full
for his services. The affair of his obtaining a negro as part pay,
(either by trade, or from the State) and of his giving a Power of
Attorney after the war, to search for indents, or evidences of pay
due him, and the fact that said Power or Orders is proven to
have been in the family ever since, as John Henderson died soon
after its date, ought surely to satisfy any one that this claim
is not borrowed from the Certificate
Please notice further, that Mr Kirkendall is a Kentucky
Gentleman, to respectable, and to near his grave to give spurious of
and unreliable testimony, and that 14 citizens whose respectability
is attested by the Magistrate and by A.J. Brown, Post Master,
certify to the good standing and high respectability of both Mr
Kirkendall and Mrs Carpenter, all which is duly authenticated
Now Sir, if you will consider all the facts in the case
Candidly, bearing in mind that these individuals are not persons
were raised in a City and accustomed to commercial or legal life,
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but plain, honest, old fashioned farmers, and that there is
the other Affidavits on file nothing but what leads the mind
to the same result, no conflicting or contradictory statements,
you will doubtless withdraw all the last clause of your letter
to me of 25th January last, and admit the justice of our claim.

One other argument, and I will relieve your patience.
The fact that in October 1784, when the Comptroller's Certificate was issued, the State paid interest on the soldier Claim, by 
the order of the General Assembly, shews they were in debt &
not able sooner to pay, and of course leave us the inference
that some of those old debts are not yet paid, and John
Reed's may be one of them; for it is well known that Virginia
never paid all her promises, as Congress, by Act of 5 July 1832,
shouldered her Half-pay claims.

With perfect confidence that our cause is just, and
now clearly proven, and that you will cheerfully grant the
only surviving Daughter what is due her late mother, I
conclude by stating that I expect a Pension Certificate in
favor under Act of 1836, for an allowance as Captain one
year, and the other year as Private, from 4 March 1831, to
3d July 1843, the day of the widows death.

I have the honor to be,
Very Respectfully, Sir,
Your Obt Servtof

Chas Tucker.
Atty. for Elizabeth Reed, decd
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Pension Office May 29th 1854 Sir, 
The long statement embraced by your letter of the 24th inst. in one degree remains the objection  stated in my letter of the 25th of January last to the admission of the claim asserted in right of Elizabeth Reed , who was the widow of John. He was not certainly  another of the John Reeds  embraced by the Comptroller 's certificate for independent of the fact  that no service was claimed in Wade Hampton's or Polk's  regiment  that indent now was clearly issued to the parties in person; and I have no doubt that the  Records will show autographic receipts thereof whereas the John Reed on list was the husband of Elizabeth had not received indents or any satisfaction whatever for his services as late as 1792. It will only be a waste of time to rest the claim upon  other of the certificates aforesaid. If Elizabeth 's husband served at all, he must have served in Capt.
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Neely's company of Col Hill Regt - and 
duration of his service must be established by Record proof
The date of the marriage is also
not established.
I am respectfully
Your Obt Servant
Commissioner
C. C. Tucker Esq
Present
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Certificate of Comptroller
of South Carolina,
that Capt. John Reid
served five months, for
which the pay & Bounty
was two grown negroes,
and when the Pay Roll
was made, one grown
negro was due him.
______________


Claim of
Elizabeth Reid,
Wid. John.     Ky.
Act 1836
Ch. C. Tucker
Atty.
Present.
7. Aug. 54.
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CHARLES C. TUCKER,              (Copy)
Attorney for Claimants
Office of Comptroller General
Columbia So Ca August 4, 1854.
Chs C. Tucker Esq
Dear Sir
In reply to your letter of 29 ult I can only state that the account referring to Lib M is missing in this Office, in consequence of this there is no proof to show that he received the Indent. It was usually given to another
person to whom the claimant gave an order to receive the same. But as I already have stated that the accounts are missing.  I am not able to furnish certificate of he ror any other person having received a such.

I can however inform you that their is
found among the Pay Rolls, a pay Roll
of Capt John Reid, which shows that he served in the Light Dragoons of Lt Col Hamptons Regiment Sumpters Brigade for the time of 5 months, that he retired by pension, that the pay and Bounty was 2 grown negroes, and that it appears at the time the pay roll was made out that a grown
negroe was due him. From this might be supposed that he had already received one al
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though the pay roll does not show any thing
about it. For an Official certificate of
what is found on Capt John Reid pay roll
relating to him the fee is $2.00 which please
enclose
Very Respectfully
P.T. Jacobs
Dep Comp Genl

Recd Aug 7.'54
Charles C. Tucker Esq
Washington D.C.

Circular stamp = Columbia [illegible] A
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[letterhead] 
CHARLES C. TUCKER,
Attorney for Claimants,
AND AGENT FOR OBTAINING
PENSIONS, BOUNTY LAND, ARREARS OF PAY EXTRA PAY PRIZE MONEY &c FOR MILITARY and NAVAL SERVICE.

(Copy.)
General Claim and Pension Agency.
Washington, D. C.
July 29. 1854.
The Comptroller General,
Columbia, S. C
Sir,
Sometime since Sundry Certificates were issued from your Office relative to the Revolutionary  service of John Reid, whose widow is dead, and whose daughter in Ky is prosecuting (thro' me) a claim for Pension due her Mother for said services.  Two of the Certificates are filed in the Pension Office, a copy of which I herewith enclose, but the Pension Office thinks that Reid never received them, and therefore was not the man to whom they were issued.
Will you please inform me whether your Books show that "Indents" were received by the soldier or his Attorney, or officer, or whether any of them remained in the Office and were never
called for.
The Daughter says her Father at one time received one negro in part pay for his services. Learning that your State did once grant negroes for services, I would be obliged if you
will inform me whether your Books shew that John Reed, or Reed, received one, and when.
Very Respectfully, Yr. Obt Servt
(Signed) Chas C. Tucker.
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Elizabeth Reed
Ky- Jus '36
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Washington D.C. Dec. 13, 1854 Hon Loren P Waldo Commissioner of Pensions  Sir, I have the honor to send herewith additional evidence for the claim under the Act of July 4, 1836  of Elizabeth Reed dec. the widow of John which will I think be found to remove the objections, to the allowance of this claim made in your letter of Sept.8 1834. It is I believe admitted that the John Reed for whose services the claim is made was the person who served five months as Captain  from April 10 to Sept. 10  1781  referred to in the Comptroller General's cert. of  Aug 24th 1854, but we will claim that he was the John Reed who served ten months as private in Capt. Martin's troop of Col. Sumter's Brigade. It is stated n your letter that two persons of the name served in Sumter's Brigade from April 1781  and a Captain served but five months and the other a private served ten months. I think you will find in examination of
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of the evidence on file that there is nothing whatever showing that the service of the private was after  April 1781 . The fact that the payroll was certified to in March 1782  cannot be considered as bearing upon this matter for it is known that many rolls were not sworn to until long after the service. It will be seen that Capt. John Reed's  roll was not certified until April 1782, seven months after the service was performed. If the service of the Captain and of the private had been for the same period it is provable that the  Books of the Comptrollers office would show  that such was the  case, but that  such was not shown  appears by one of the letter from the Comptroller to me now on file in which he states that  in consequence of the loss of  certain indents he cannot give an opinion whether  they were the same or different persons. In proof that the service of the private was before April 1781  and that the father of the present applicant was that private, we present the evidence of  R. Kirkendall whose credibility is  fully certified to showing that the claimant's father served both as a private and a Captain was in Sumter's Brigade and in the enclosed affidavit he mentions facts and circumstances that enables him to fix the period viz that he was a private under Sumter, when Sumter was
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wounded, which I find on examination of the history of that period was Nov 20 1780 and that the claimants father was in service as a Captain in the Spring and Summer immediately preceding the capture of Cornwallis (Oct 1781) . It will also be seen that the claimant's statements corroberate the view I have taken. She states that she frequently heard her father say he served in the battles of Hanging Rock Fishing Creek and the Cowpens all of which battles were fought during the twelve months immediately preceding April 1780. In all of which South Carolina Militia took a part and in the two former,  Gen. Sumpter was personally engaged and from the authorities before me it would appear that they were fought exclusively by Gen Sumpter's Brigade.

Very respectfully
Your Obt. Servt.
Chas. C. Tucker ( signed )
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Washington City 25 July 1854.

Hon L.P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions.

Sir,
Your letter of 22 inst.
relative to the claim of Elizabeth Reed of Kentucky Widow of John,
Act 4 July 1836, is received; and the statements therein contained
would seem to place the case in a different light from what
before appeared.

Waiving all disposition to argue the possible-
ity that the slave in question might have been purchased with
a certificate for pay due before 1782; and the respectability of
the witness who saw him act as Captain; it is respectfully
submitted whether the evidence is not sufficient to shew
he must have served as much as three years in some capacity, and from the ages of his children, he must have married
before the service; and consequently, whether you will admit
the claim as Private two years, under Act of 1836.

I have the honor to be
Very Respectfully,
Sir, Your Obt Servt
Chas. C. Tucker ( signed ) 
Atty for Claimant
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Washington City 25 July 1854.

Hon L.P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions.

Sir,
Your letter of 22 inst.
relative to the claim of Elizabeth Reed of Kentucky Widow of John,
Act 4 July 1836, is received; and the statements therein contained
would seem to place the case in a different light from what
before appeared.

Waiving all disposition to argue the possible-
ity that the slave in question might have been purchased with
a certificate for pay due before 1782; and the respectability of
the witness who saw him act as Captain; it is respectfully
submitted whether the evidence is not sufficient to shew
he must have served as much as three years in some capacity, and from the ages of his children, he must have married
before the service; and consequently, whether you will admit
the claim as Private two years, under Act of 1836.

I have the honor to be
Very Respectfully,
Sir, Your Obt Servt
Chas. C. Tucker ( signed ) 
Atty for Claimant
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A.J. Brown, P.M. and
G.D. Clinton, J.P. Certify
to respectability of
14 Citizens who certify to
good character & standing
of Rachel Carpenter
and
Richmond Kirkendall
______________
Claim of
Elizabeth Reed
widow of John
_______________
Ky. Act 1836.
_______________
C.C. Tucker,
Atty

Wash. D.C
24. May 54

5
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I, G. D Clinton a Justice of the peace for the County of Garrard County Kentucky do certify that Martha Maccberry personally appeared before me and made oath to the foregoing statement understandingly I having read
the same to her and she subscribed her name to the same in my presents. I further certify that the said Martha Maccberry is a lady  of the highest respectability
and her oath should be respected I further certify I am in nowise interested in said pension or acting as agent for same. 
In testimony whereof I hereunto subscribe my name this the  ?" day of November 1853., and that the statements of the said Martha Maccberry on the revised side of this sheet should be believed that they correspond  with all the statements he has heard and has regularly  has believed  to know
---  G D Clinton ( signed ) 
This 9th day of November 1853

-
(2) I William B Mason Clerk of the County Court of Garrar County
State of Kentucky do certify that I G D Clinton Esq whose
genuine 
Signature appears to the above certificate  is and was at the time of signing his name an acting Justice of the peace for this County duly commissioned and sworn as the law directs
********************
I further Certify I am in no wise  interested in said pension nor acting as agent 

In testimony whereof I hereunto set my name as clerk
of said Court and affix the seal of County Court above  named
this 15 day of November 1853
William B Mason  ( signed ) Clk

[right margin]
Martha Maccberry  Nov . 8 1853
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State of Kentucky ⎬
County of Garrard ⎬ss

On this the 9th day of November 1853 before me G. D. Clinton

a Justice of the peace for this County personally appeared Martha Maccberry

a Citizen of this County aged seventy seven who first being duly sworn as

the law directs upon her oath make the following statements that she

was acquainted with John Reid and his wife Elizabeth from South Carolina

for upwards of sixty years  Since that they are both now deceased that John Reid

died in this County some 4 ,5 or 6 years since  and that his wife Elizabeth

Reid lived a widow up to her said death never again marrying

and lost her mind for some years previous to her said death that said

Elizabeth Reid above named died in this County in the year Eighteen hundred

and forty three this  the third day of July - that she was present and saw her

buried that she resided within a short distance of the said

Reid and wife Elizabeth from the time they landed in Garrard

County Kentucky from South Carolina to the said deaths that they

had four living children when they landed in Garrard County the oldest

was Sully some two years older than she was that she always  heard

said John Reid and wife Elizabeth say they was married in Ireland and which

was never doubted hear  that they always lived together as man and

wife and was reputed as such to their said deaths and that they

John Reid and Elizabeth his said  now deceased has now only

one living child whose name is Rachel Carpenter and she is

applying for the pension due her said Mother at her said death

for the Revolutionary services of her deceased Father John Reid above named

as private and Captain in the State of South Carolina that .. ( illegible ) Reed

this  child was just her age and would now be 77 year if living that she is no wise 
  interested in said pension

November the 7. 1853

Martha Maccberry ( signed )
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[ State of Kentucky
County of Garrard ] ss

We the undersigned Citizens of the County 
and State above mentioned do certify that we have known Rachel Carpenter of this County who we are informed is applying for a pension due her mother Elizabeth Reid deceased on: account of the revolutionary services of her husband John Reid deceased that said Rachel Carpenter whose character for truth virtue and honesty has never been doubted that her oath should be respected that she has been attached to the Presbyterian church and been
a member of the highest respectability for many years up to the present date that we have known her from 30 to forty year and that Richmond Kirkendall of this County about 90 year old who has given his statement in that: Claim is a man of high respectability  whose oath should be respected

====================================================
George W. Conn ( signed )   Farmer
Thos K Conn ( signed )         " do
David Kennedy ( signed )        do
Thomas Kennedy ( signed )    do 
John Martin  ( signed )            do                
John F Baird ( signed ) 
John Flint ( signed ) 

H. T. Torrell  ( signed )   Farmer
James M Reid ( signed ) MD 
Andrew Reid ( signed ) Merchant 
R G Woods ( signed )   Farmer
Geo. Denny  ( signed )  Farmer
David G Rose ( signed ) 
Wm Baird  ( signed )  Elder


Hon T J M Elliott I will Say
to you I am acquainted with
the above Gentlemen  they are men of Good Reputations 
& I concur with what  they have stated
as above
A.J. Brown ( signed ) J.P.
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State of Kentucky County of Garrard
I G D Clinton an acting Justice

of the peace for the County and State above named duly commission and

Sworn as the law directs do certy that that the forgoing whose names appear

to the certification the reverse sided are citizen of this County and [illegible] 

neighbors to Rachel Carpenter and Richmond Kirkendall and they signed

there name, and had it done in my present and acknowledge to be the act

and deed I further certify they are men of the highest respectability whose word

& statement should not be doubted and I concur with them in the State

-ments and that several of the forgoing persons are members  of the same church of

Rachel  Carpenter & I am in [illegible]

May 16" 1854.     G D Clinton  J. P.


William B Mason Clerk of the County Court of
Garrard County Kentucky do certify that G.D. Clinton Esqr whose

genuine signature appears to the above certificate is and was at

the time of to signing his name an acting Justice of the peace for

the County and State above named duly committed and sworn as

the law direct in testamony whereof I hereunto subscribe my name

as clerk of said County Court and affix the seal of my office and affix the seal
of my office

May 17, 1854.                        William B Mason Clk
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Comptroller Generals Office
Columbia So. Ca. August 24th 1854
It is hereby certified that in a Pay Roll
of Capt John Reid's troop of Light Dragoons in the Regiment commanded by Lieut Colo Wade Hampton Genl Sumters Brigade
as found on file in this Office and on the back of which the following words are written viz " Capt Reed makes oath that the within pay roll as it stands stated, is " just & true without fraud to the United " States, or any Individual to the best of " his knowledge. Sworn the 11th April 1782
" Before Wade Hampton J.P. " John Reid  CapT.
that John Reid served as Captain from April 10th 1781, Five Months; that he retired by permission; that the pay and Bounty was Two grown negroes and that at the time when the pay Roll was made out one grown negroe was due him.
For Comptroller General
(No Seal of Office)
P. J. Jacobs
Deputy.
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Rachel Carpenter
Jany. 2. 1854
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State of Kentucky
County of Garrard SS
On this the 2 day of Jany 1834 before G. Clinton a Justice of the peace and one of the County Court of the County and State above named personally appeared Rachel Carpenter a resident of this County aged 65 years who being first first and sworn as the law directs upon her oath makes the following statement as an amendment to her former declaration
July 18th 1830 as she believes that she is the daughter of the soldier John Reid and Elizabeth Reid both now deceased that John Reid was a captain in the South Carolina State troops in Sumpters Brigade Hampton's Regiment she believes and served not quite a year in that party and served three or four years as private in Martins Troop and Polks Regiment as she was informed by her Father and believes her said Father and mother was married in the County down Ireland that her father said her maiden name was Elizabeth Lawson, about the year 1770. that soldier died in Garrard County Ky in Feb. 1808 that her said mother  remained a widow till her death in July 3. 1843 in Garrand County Kentucky. that declarant is the only surviving child of the said John and Elizabeth Reid deceased. that Claimant lost her mind previous to her death and therefore did not apply for a pension. Soldier and claimant had one child two years old when they landed at Savannah during the early part of the Revolutionary War. that she has often heard her said Father speak of the money due him for his service in the Revolution War was in the State of South Carolina which he always said he never obtained but his children could
get it when he was gone to his long home Jany 2. 1854
s/ Rachel Carpenter
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[very light and illegible]
State of ....
County....
.....
County and state above .... declared by..... and made oath to the want...
..........they being first ... to hereby her request her
name was signed to the same in my present & further certify she is
a lady, the highest respectability and from age and bodily infirmity
she is unable to appear in open Court given under my hand
this 2 of January 1854
                                                    G D Clinton

State of Kentucky
Garrard  County

I William B Mason Clerk of the County
Court of the County and State above named do certify that G D Clinton who
name appear to the above certificate is and was at the time of so signing
his name an acting Justice of the peace and one of the County Court of
this County duly commission and sworn as the law directs and that
the signature purporting to be his is genuine

 in testimony whereof
I hereunto set my name as Clerk of said County Court and of [illegible]
the seal of said County Court at Office in Lancaster this
3rd day of January AD 1854

William B Mason Clk
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Explanatory Affidavits.
================
Elizabeth Reed, decd
Widow of John
__________________
Kentucky - Act 1836
================
Rachel Carpenter, &
Richmond Kirkendall
make several statements which
were thought by those who
attended to drawing her first
Declaration to be unnecessary,
but which certainly prove
the service as Capt & private,
Identity & Marriage before
service.

Credibility & good standing
undoubtedly proven.

C.C. Tucker.
Atty

Wash D.C.
24. May 154
(4)

[right side]

Rachel Carpenter and
Richmond Kirkendall
May 16. 1854
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State of Kentucky
County of Garrard ⎬ss.
On this this the 16 day of May 1834 personally appeared before me GD Clinton a Justice of the peace for this county Rachel Carpenter a resident of this County who being first duly
Sworn as the law directs on her oath makes the following statement that some time since she made a declaration for the purpose of obtaining a pension due her deceased mother Elizabeth Reed of this County due her on account of the Revolution services of her decd Father John Reed as Capt. and private from South Carolina. She State that she has often heard her deceased Father John Reed above named say after the close of the old war the State of South Carolina was too poor to pay him they owed him for his Revolutionary services that that he obtained a negro Woman for part of his services in the Revolutionary war and she thinks some money whether the negro come from the State or he sold that amt of his services she cant say but thinks he obtained the negro from the State of South Carolina that she made this statement when her first declaration was made but it was thought not necessary to name it in her declaration that she often heard her Father above named and Richmond Kirkendall speaking of the mony that was due him [illegible] unpaid and how mutch it would help him if he could gate it and that said Richard Kirkindall married one of her older sisters who died may years since and said Kirkendall afterward married again and has lived a neighbour to her ever since her recollection that her said Father was married to her said mother in she thinks Down Ireland that her mothers Maden name was Elizabeth McClanahan that her oldest
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sister if living would now be 77 or 80 year old that all of her Brothers and sisters are now dead the forgoing as to manage an senses she learned from her said Father and mother as she now recollects
Rachel her x mark Carpenter
State of Kentucky
County of Garrard ss.

On this the day of May 1854 before me
G. I Clinton a Justice of the peace for the County and State above named personally appeared Richmond Kirkendall aged 87 part who being just duly sworn as the law directs on his oath makes the following statement that he some time he thinks last July gave his statement in this same pension claim and he
is now called on to give an amended statement that he knew the foresaid John Reid and wife Elizabeth same 4 years before the 
[illegible] of the Revolutionary War that he said neighbor to said Reid's wife while said John Reid was in the service of the revolutionary war and that he often saw said Reed in actual service of the United States in the Revolutionary war part of the time as a Captain and said Reid was always coled [called] a good soldier and was [illegible] as an officer that he always heard said Reed and wife say they was married in Ireland and never heard it disputed that they lived together as man and wife up to [illegible] said death or to his ^Reid^ death, that they had said Reid and wife had a daughter on my first acquaintance about 1778 or 9 must have been 6 or 7 years old for she could go to the spring and bring water I was often at said John Reids house while he was in the army and that he married a daughter of said John Reid Elizabeth his wife long since dec'd [deceased] and he again married that said John Reid always told him the state was so poor they could not pay him only a part of what was due him for his services in the Revolutionary war that said Reid obtained a negro woman for his services and he thinks took her of the state but won't be certain as to that that he knowing the claim for a pension is state due and owing Elizabeth Reid, ^second^ wife of John Reid deceased and that Rachel Carpenter is the only living child of said John & Elizabeth Reid that he has known said Rachel Carpenter and said she was bound and known to be a lady of high respectability has been an orderly member of the presbyterian church for years & years.
Richmond his x mark Kirkendall
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State of Kentucky County of Garrard ss
I G.D. Clinton Esq. for the
County and State above named do certify that Rachel Carpenter and
Richmond Kirkendall personally appeared before me and made oath to the foregoing statement understandingly they being first read by me and subscribed their marks to the same in my presents I further certify they are both persons
of the highest respectability where oath should be [illegible] and General rumor always said since my recollection said John Reed the Father of Rachel Carpenter was a Revolutionary soldier and
[illegible] pension-
May 16th 1854
G D Clinton J. P.


State of Kentucky County of Garrard ss
I William B Mason Clerk of the
County Court of the County and State above named do certify that
G. D. Clinton Esqr whose genuine signature appears to the above certificate is and was at the time of so signing his name an acting Justice
of the peace for the County and State above named duly commissioned 
and sworn as the law directs in testimony whereof I hereunto
Subscribe my name as Clerk of said County Court and affix the
Seal of my office. May 17, 1854
William B Mason Clk
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⎬
Richmond Kirkendall
&
Rachel Carpenter

November 18, 1854.
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Garrard County
State of Kentucky
On this the 18th of November 1854 personally appeared before me a Justice of the peace for the County and State above named Richmond Kirkendall a resident of this County of high respectability who being first duly sworn pursuant to law makes the following Statements that Some time since he gave his affidavit in an application of Rachel Carpenter for a pension due her deceased mother Elizabeth Reid for the son of John Reed in South Carolina both now deceased he States that his first wife who has been dead for many years was a daughter of of John & Elizabeth Reid above named that he had may conversation with him as to his services in the revolution war in South Carolina that he often saw the said John Reid in actual service in the Revolution war with Sumpter as a private before Sumpter was wounded and was informed by said Reid he was with Sumpter when he was wounded in 1780 that in the spring and summer preceding the surrender of Cornwallis he frequently saw the said John Reid with Sumpter as Captain in the station was that had came home some month or so before Cornwallis surrendered at at York town but only stayed a few days and changed his service he thinks to the Continental line as capt that said Reid served some [illegible] as he always said or more as private and about one year as Capt and was in actual service of the United States when Cornwallis surrendered and served till the [illegible] near the close of the war that afterward he moved to Kentucky he heard the said Reid and Jack Adair have a holy cry over this trouble with the Tories in the old war Adair spoke of Serving said lord often in [illegible] under ^ or with Sumpter as private and the latter portion of the was as Captain and says Jack admits if Statements could be taken there would be no more difficulty about the claim
                           Richard his x mark Kirkendall
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State of Kentucky
Grant County   SS

On this the 18th of November 1844 personally
appeared before me a Justice of the peace for the County and State above named Rachel Carpenter a citizen of this County of high respectability who being first duly sworn on her oath makes this as an amended statement to her former declaration as to the sum of her deceased father John Reid of South Carolina in the Revolutionary war that she heard her said
Father speak of being in the service in the Revolution was with Sumpter before and when Sumpter was wounded and that the latter part of his services was captive she thinks about a year and several years as private before he acted as Captain in the Revolution war and was in the sevice of the United States when Cornwallis surrendered and that near the last of the war he served in the Regular army or continental army from the best of her memory from what her
Father said she knows he changed his services towards the head of the war and as her memory serves he acted as captain to or near the close of the war that she has often heard George Reid Speck of this service with Brandin and Sumpter
and the difficulties they had to encounter with the Tories that the whole of South Carolina was almost taken by the _____  and ____ and heard many persons spoke of his decease  in the Revolution was who said with and under him she heard her Father speak of any engagement he was in with the Tories but thinks he was at the engagement on Fishing Creek to Hanging Rock and Cowpens and she often heard him speak of them and many other engagements
Rachel Carpenter
mark
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State of Kentucky
County of Garrard
On this the 18th of this instant I do certify that Racheal
Carpenter and Richmond Kaskendoll of this County
personally appeared before me and made oath to their fore
going statement understandingly and subscribed their
marks to the same in my presents their statement duly
[illegible] to them by me I further certify they are persons
of high respectively & further certy I have no interest
in said pension claim nor acting as agent for same
November 18th 1854
G. D. Clinton J P


State of Kentucky
County of Garland SS.

I Witham B Mason Clerk of the
County Court of the County of Garrard and State above named
do certify that G.D. Clinton Esq. whose genuine signature
appears to the above certificate is and was at the time of so
signing his name an acting Justice of the peace for the County
and State above named duly commissioned and sworn as
the law directs and that his official acts should be respected as
such in testimony whereof I hereunto affix my name as Clerk
of the County Court have named and affix the Seal
of my office and that I am in no interest in
said pension Claim nor acting as agent, this 29th
day of November 1854

William B Mason Clk
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Greenville County ss. I do hereby authorize & empower John Henderson to transact for and in my name place and holy to search all the offices which may be  necessary in this State or elsewhere for certain Indents which are due me for services in the State troops
in the late war for which I have received no satisfaction on any account whatever also the sum on account of George Reid for his services therein for which he hath not received any part thereof & I do hereby by this transactions of the said John Henderson in and about the same in array respect whatever as though I was personally present given under my hand
Seal the 29th of Decr 1772
acknowledged by me J.S. Grigsby
John Reid

State of South Carolina Renville County 
                                                               ⎬
 George Reed of Union County and State aforesaid
personally came before me and made oath that he served as Sergeant ten months under the command of Capt Samuel Neely of Colonel William Hill Regiment of State troops and this deponent further saith that he never gave an order to any person nor sold nor
disposed of his wages due him for said services except John Reid to whom he Sold his wages and gave him an order to draw the same Sworn to the 15th day
of October 1791. George Salmon JP- George Reed


State of Kentucky Garrard County ss
I Richmond Kirkendoll a resident of this County aged 87 years do certify that the above power of attorney of John Reid to John Henderson to draw the money due him for his services and the transfer of George Reeds service  to John Reid is a true Copy of the original
which has had in his possession ever since the death of John Reei and that he was present and saw them both make oath to the same and sign their own names
to the same and that the power given to John Henderson was given to said Henderson he taking sick in a short time and died and that the said John Reid
always to his death to him he hands the above pay and for me to hold the above papers to his children might some day got it and that Rachel Carpenter the only
living child of the  John Reid and Edith his wife both now deceased is applying of pension due thereof and above named at her death and that he is in no way
interested nor acting as agent in said pension November 14th 1853
 Richmond Kirkendall
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State of Kentucky Garrard County ss
I G. D. Clinton a Justice of the peace for the County and State above named do certify the coppys on the reverse side are true Coppys of George Reids [illegible] to John Reid
in South Carolina  and a true coppy  of the power of Attorney to John Henderson to look up the indents of John Reed &c and that John Reids only living child now here in this County Rachel Carpenter who is
applying for the pension due her said mother at her death that he has always heard the said John Reid spoken of as being served in the Revolutionary war in South Carolina as private and Capt and that Richard Kirkendall appeared before him and made oath to his statements on the reverse side and subscribed his name to the same. I further certify I am in no wise interested in said pension or acting as agent for same this the 14 day of November 1853
G D Clinton. JP

I William B Mason Clerk of the County Court of Garrard County Kentucky do certify that George D Clinton
whose genuine  signature appears to the above certificate is and was at the time of so signing his name an acting Justice of the peace for this county duly commissioned and sworn as the law directs and that I am in no wise interested in said pension or acting
as agent. in testimony whereof I hereunto subscribe my name
as Clerk of said County Court and affix the seal of said office
this the 15 day of November 1853
William B Mason Clk

Richmond Kirkendall
Nov 14. 1853
with copy of  Recd Power
of attorney for the statement of his account
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No 3087 X Issued 21st June 1786 to John Reed for eight pounds, 11/5 Stlg
for duty in Brandons Regt
pr acct  audited
Prin  £ 8"11"5
Int     £ 0"11"11
State of So Carolina To John Reed
for militia duty in Brandons Regt since the fall of Charlestown pr
Anderson's return amotg to Curry £60
                        Stg £8"11"5
Recd Columbia 1st Decr 1790 from the Comm Treasury an Indent No. 3087 Book X in full for the above acct per order James Martin £8"11"5

Pay to James Martin all my claims against the State South Carolina
value received this 16th Novr 1790
 John Reed Witness William McCain

John Reed for militia duty since the fall of Charleston in Brandon's Regiment pr Andersons return
Curry     £60"
Stg          £  8"11"5
Eight Pounds, eleven Shillings and
five pence
Stg     Exd    J Mc
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Comp Genls Office
Columbia 2 Sep. 1853.
I hereby certify the other side of this half sheet of paper to contain a true copy from Indent Book X page 3087, & also of the account upon
which said Indent was issued
Given under my hand
there being no seal of
office
W.F. Arthur
For Comp Genl

Comptroller Certificate
L.8.S.H.D.J. [illegible]
June 21 1786
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Comptroller Certificate
L94. S0. D0 Stg.
October 1 1784
.
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No 616
B
Lib M
Issued the first October 1784 to Mr
John Reid late private in N. Martins troop Polks Regt Hamptons Brigade for ninety four pounds Sterling a
mount pay and bounty due him for
services in that troop with interest thereon from the first April 1782 to date hereof agreeable to resolution of Geneeral Assembly of eleventh March last Principal - £ 94" 0"0
Interest--        6"11"7
£ 86.10.8

Compt  Genls Office
Columbia 2d Sept 1853
I hereby certify the foregoing to be a true  Copy from Indent Book B M No 616- Given under my hand there being no seal of office 
W F. Arthur
For Comp Genl
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Lib M.
No 180.

Issued the first Octob 1784
to Mr John Reid late
Captain in W. Hamptons Regiment Sumpters Brigade State Troops
for ninety four pounds
Sterling being amount
pay & bounty due him
for services in that Regiment together with - Interest thereon from
the first April 1782 to date
hereof, agreeable to resolution of General assembly
of the eleventh of March last
Principal.  £  94 " 0"0.
Interest              6"11"7.
£  86"10"8.

Comp Genls Office
Columbia 2d Sept 1853
I hereby certify
the foregoing to be a true copy from
Interest Book M page 181
Given under my hand
there being no seal of office
W. F. Arthur
For Compt. Genl
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No 646
Book S
Issued the 23d of June 1785 to Mr John Reed for fifteen pounds eleven Shillings and five pence Sterling for duly done in the militia as pr two accounts audited
Principal        £15..11..5
Annual interest 1.. 1..9

No 64

State So Carolina
Dr to John Reed for duty pr Col Anderson ret       £99..
Stg £14:2.10 1/4
Received 28th June 1785 full
satisfaction for the within in an
Indent No 646 Book S by an order
Moses Ferguson

John Reeds account of duty in the Militia as private since the reduction of Charlestown
amotg to Curry £99..
Stg £14:2.. 10 1/4
Fourteen Pounds two Shillings 
and ten pence farthing Sterling
Exd
W. R.
TMcA:G

State So Carolina 
Dr to John Reed
for duty pr Col Andersons retn £10
Stg   £  1:8: 6 3/4
Received 23 June 1785 full satisfaction for the within
in an Indent No 646 Book S. by an order
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John Reeds account of duty in the Militia as private since the reduction of Charleston amg to Cry  £10
Stg  £1. 8..6 3/4
One pound eight shill and six
pence thrice farthings sterling
Exd
W. R
TMcHG

To Messers Edward Blake or
Peter Boequet
Commissioners of the Treasury
Gentlemen  please to deliver to Mr Moses Ferguson of the New
Acquisition my Indent due me from the State of South Carolina, and this shall be your receipt from me.
Signed in presence of Wm. Hill
Sept 10. 1785 John Reid

Compt. Genl's Office  
Columbia  29 Sept 1853 I hereby certify the foregoing to be a true copy from Indent Book S. page 646, & also of the account from which said
Indent was issued
Given under my hand
there being no seal of office
W. F. Arthur
For Compt Genl