Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 20,371, for Hendrick W Krum, New York
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New York Krum, Hendrick W.  W. 20371
Jane
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4139
New York
Jane Krum dec'd
widow of N.Y. Hendrick W Krum
who died on the 2nd Feb. 1827
if Ulster Co. in the state of NY
who was a private in the Com. commanded by Captain    of the reg. commanded
by      in the NY
line for 16 mo 22 days 
Inscribed on the roll of NY City at the rate of 55 dollars 77 cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.  when she died
Certificate of Pension issued the 27th day of Nov 1844 and sent to Hon J Russell House of Repres.
Arrears to the 4th of 
semi annual allowance ending
Revolutionary claim,
act July 4, 1836 section the 3d
J.L. Swann clerk
book C, vol 1, page 120
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H. R. 6112 March 4 1846
Jeremiah Russell

6112 Jane Krum Dec'd
NY
July 36

Hon J Russell H.R.
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Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 4th July 1836
State of New York
County of Ulster ss:} On this twentieth day of December 1843, personally appeared before the court of Common pleas of the county of Ulster, (being a court of record ) in the state of New York, William H. Krum a resident of the town of Olive, in the county of Ulster and state of New York aged fifty eight years; who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress of the 4thof July 1836.
First that he the said William H. Krum, together with Matthew Krum, Rebecca, now the wife of Stephen Merrihow, Mary, the wife of Aaron Bull Jane the wife of Isaac Lyons, Simon, Hannah the wife of John Schutt, and Henry, are the children and only children and heirs of Hendrick W. Krum and Jane his wife; that the  said Hendrick W. Krum and Jane his wife, resided in the town of Olive in said county of Ulster; that his mothers name before her marriage was Jane Phenix, that they were married on the 4th day of May 1777  that the said Hendrick W. Krum died on the second day of February 1827 at Olive aforesaid, leaving the said Jane his widow. that she the said Jane died on the thirtieth day of September 1837, and remained the widow of the said Hendrick W. Krum until her death, and left this deponent William H. Krum, Matthew Krum, Rebecca the wife of Stephen Merrihew, Mary the wife of Aaron Bull, Jane the wife of Isaac Lyons, Simon, Hannah the wife of John Schutt, and Henry, her children, and her only children and heirs; and the children and only children and heirs of the said Hendrick W. Krum; and that said children are all of lawful age.
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and further that the said Jane Krum, widow of the said Hendrick W. Krum, as this deponent verily believes, was entitled to a pension under the act of Congress of the 4th July 1836 and for a statement of the services of the said Hendrick W. Krum in the Revolutionary War, as also for evidence to substantiate the claim of the said heirs, reference is made to the documents and affidavits hereunto annexed.
William ( his X mark) H. Krum
sworn to and subscribed in open court this 20th Dec 1843
Gro A Gay Clerk
At a court of Common pleas held in and for the county of Ulster on the 20th day of December 1843
Present the Hon. James O Linderman first Judge 
Reuben H Hinex
John D Schoonmaker, Judges
Satisfactory evidence was produced before said court that Hendrick W. Krum of Olive in said county, died on the 2nd day of February 1827, that he left jane Krum his widow that said Jane Krum died on the 30th day of September 1837 leaving William H. Krum, Matthew Krum, Rebecca wife of Stepen Merrihew, Mary wife of Aaron Bull, Jane wife of Isaac Lyons; Simon, Hannah wife of John Schutt, and Henry, her children and her only children and heirs: and the only children and heirs of said Hendrick W. Krum all of lawful age, that this Hendrick W. Krum + Jane were married on the 4th May 1777 and that said Jane Krum remained the widow of the said Hendrick W. Krum until her death
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said court + county this 20th Dec. 1843
Gro. A. Gay Clerk
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Ulstern county ss: Sarah Davis of the town of Olive in said county being duly sworn says that she is seventy nine years of age. that in the time of the Revolutionary War she resided in the town of Marbletown in said county of Ulster that she was well acquainted with Hendrick W. Krum, then residing in Marbletown, said deponent was a near neighbor of him. and recollects very well that the same season that New York was taken by the British, the said Hendrick W. Krum enlisted for the term of five months to go to New York. that he the said Krum, John I. Roosa and Daniel Jansen enlisted at the same time for said service, and left home together to go to New York. She also recollects very well when they returned; and believes they were absent in said service five months. said deponent understood at that time that said Hendrick W. Krum did serve said term in the regiment of Col. Hardenbergh in New York, and at White Plains but cannot recollect any other of his officers. 
Sarah (her X mark) Davis
sworn + subscribed this 30th day of October 1843 before me Abm. G Hardenbergh J. peace
and I do certify that said Sarah Davis is a person of truth and veracity and that her statement is entitled to full credit. 
Abm. G. Hardenbergh J.P.
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State of New York
Ulster county ss: Cornelius Quick of Rochester in said county being sworn says that he is eighty nine years old; that he was well acquainted with Hendrick W. Krom of Marbletown, and late of the town of Olive in said county deceased. that he was acquainted with said Krom, before the Revolutionary War, during said war, and afterward till his death. that in the year 176 said deponent served on Long Island, New York and White Plains in the Continental army in Capt Lounsbery's company in Col. Cortland's regiment that in that same year said Hendrick W. Krom served in New York + at White Plains for the term of five months in Capt John Hasbrouck's company in Col Hardenbergh's regiment, was in said service during the summer + fall of said year in the year 1777 said deponent did serve for the term of four months in Capt John Hasbrouck's company in Col. Levi Pawling's regiment at Fort Montgomery when said Krom did served in the same company with this deponent. said deponent has also seen said Krom in the service at Fishkill in Dutchess county, but cannot tell the year. served in Col Hathhorne's regiment.
Said deponent also served in the latter part of the war on the frontiers at Shandaken in the company of Capt Henry Pawling in Col Albert Pawling's regiment for the term of seven months. that said Krom served in said company + regiment for said term.
that he said deponent has frequently seen said Hendrick W. Krom in the service on the frontiers in Wawarsing, once particularly said deponent recollects that said Krom served on said frontiers in the company of Capt Kortright.
Cornelius (his X mark) Quick
sworn and subscribed this 19th Dec 1843 before me and I do certify that said Cornelius Quick is a man of truth and veracity and that his testimony is entitled to full credit.
Abm. G. Hardenbergh J. peace
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Ulster County ss: William H. Krum of Olive in said county aged fifty eight years being sworn, says that he is the son of Hendrick W. Krum and Jane his wife. that he has frequently heard his father tell of his Revolutionary services. has heard him tell of his being in the service at Long Island. New York, Kingsbridge and White Plains in the year 1776 recollects well hearing him tell that on the 4th July in said year, while in the service, he helped take down the King's image in New York, and that Johannis Dewitt, cut off the head with a broadaxe, that when the army retreated to Kingsbridge he had a piece of the crown in Knapsack which he meant to bring home, but then threw it away, fearing he might be taken a prisoner, but has also heard him tell of his service in Fort Montgomery, and was there when the British took said Fort, and made his escape. heard him say he was there in service under Capt John Hasbrouck for 4 months, has also heard him tell of serving at Fishkill; remembers his telling that he first laid in the church, and afterwards encamped on the plains. that the cowboys were continually plundering the inhabitants, and taking their property to the enemy. that he was engaged in guarding the country and at one time took from there a number of cattle and sheep. has heard him tell that in this campaign, his wife was sick and brought to bed. that he got a furlough to go home to Hurley where his family then was and that after his family got better he returned and served out his time which was four months has heard him tell of being in the service under Capt Pawling at Shandakan and also at Wawarsing and other places on the frontiers, and has often heard him make out that he had been in the service during said war two years and three months, exclusive of short tours on alarms. and said deponent verily believes that said statement was the truth. and was made before any pension law was passed or thought of.
William (his X mark) H. Krum
sworn this 25th Dec, 1843 before me
Abm. G. Hardenbergh Jr Js
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Ulster County ss: Simon Krum of Olive in said county, aged forty nine years, being sworn says that he is a son of Hendrick W. Krum and Jane his wife. that he has frequently heard his father talk of his Revolutionary services. Has heard him tell that in the year 1776 when in the service on Long Island, that when Washington's army retreated from there, he was with others left to keep up the fires during the night while the army were on the retreat that the fires were kept up til day break, and then left has heard his father say he was one of the last that crossed to New York. has heard his father also tell that in pursuing the Indians from Wawarsing they were so near on them that they found fires, on which there were sticks, not larger than a mans thumb, not burnt through. Said deponent further states that the annexed paper marked "A" and signed by John Cantine was found among his fathers papers. and said deponent believes that the same is an extension of a furlough which he received when he was in the service in Fishkill in 1779.
Simon Krum
sworn this 25th Dec 1843 before me Abm. G. Hardenbergh J.S.
I do certify that on the 25th Dec 1843 personally appeared before me, William H. Krum, and Simon Krum; and severally made oath to the within affidavits by them subscribed. I do also certify that the are men of truth and veracity, and that their testimony is entitled to full credit. 
Abm. G. Hardenbergh J. peace
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November 10th 1779
Gentlemen
those may certify that Hendrick Kroom of Hurley represented his case to me, that his wife has brought to bed and his mother in law has very Mr J herefore gave him promission to stay with him tell the should be recovered I am sir your humble Servent
John Cantine
To Collo Snyders or members of Court martial
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State of New York, Ulster County ss: Christopher VanLeuvan of the town of Olive in said county being sworn says he is eighty five years old. that in the time of the Revolutionary War, and since till his death he was well acquainted with Hendrick W. Krum, late of said town of Olive in said county deceased. that said Hendrick W. Krum, did serve in the Revolutionary war for the term of four months, at Fort Montgomery in the company of Capt John Hasbrouck in Col. Levi Pawlings regiment. said deponent was at that time in the service with him; was there when the fort was taken by the British. this service was in the year 1777 said deponent also recollects that after Kingston was burnt in the fall of said year. Many of the inhabitants of Kingston with all their goods, fled to Warwarsing, their goods were put in different houses there. and a guard was placed there to protect said goods, and the inhabitants against the Indians and Tories. said deponent and said Hendrick W. Krom did serve at said place in the company of Capt Kortright in Col Pawling's regiment through the winter for the term of four months, and were engaged in guarding said goods and the inhabitants in the year 1778 when the Indians and Tories had made an incursion in Peenpack said deponent + said Hendrick W. Krum did serve in the company of Capt Charles Brodhead in Col Pawling's regiment for the term of four months from August till Dec. were marched to Peenpack to drive back the Indians, and returned to Jurenkill in Warwarsing, and served out their time there were engaged in building a fort and scouting along the frontiers to protect the inhabitants. In the year 1779 said deponent did serve in company with said Hendrick W. Krums for three or four months at Fishkill in Dutchess county in the company of Capt Charles Brodhead in Col. Hawthorne's regiment, enlisted after harvest and were discharged in Dec were engaged in guarding the country. this part of the country abounded with tories who were engaged in plunder-
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ing the inhabitants, and taking cattle sheep and conveying them to the enemy in Westchester and New York in the forepart of the season of said year 1779 said deponent and said Hendrick W. Krum were in the services in and expedition against the Indians and Tories up to Schoharie and Harpersfield, under the command of Major Adrian Wynkoop cant tell how long we were engaged in this service.  In the year 1780 in the forepart of the season said deponent and said Hendrick W. Krum did serve on the frontiers at Woodstock and Shandaken twice, once on alarms under Philip Zwart, and at another time under Tobias VanBuren. Adrian Wynkoop was our Major. this country was much troubled with Indians and Tories was out each time about two weeks. In the year 1781 said deponent and said Hendrick W. Krum did serve the whole season, thinks about 8 months at Shandaken in Ulster county on the frontiers in the company of Capt Henry Pawling in Col Albert Pawling's regiment this country was infested with Indians and Tories and great cruelties and murders were committed. in this campaign a scout from our company was surprised by the Indians, and Johannis Rider was killed and others wounded. Said deponent also recollects that in the year 1780 in the fall said deponent and said Hendrick W. Krum did served for the term of four months on the frontiers at Yaugh Kripplebush, were stationed at a fort at Ephraim Chambers and scouted along the frontiers to protect the inhabitants served in their campaign in the company of Capt Henry Pawling. Christopher (his X mark) VanLeuvan
sworn and subscribed this 25th December 1843 before me Abm G Hardenbergh J. P.
I do certify that the above Christopher VanLeuvan is a man of truth and veracity and that his statement is entitled to credit.
Abm G. Hardenbergh J. peace
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In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled " an act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and militia, for their services in the late war, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing intere3st at five per cent per annum, viz:
2d June  1779 Henry W Krum priv  0, 17, 9
1st June 1780 Hend'k W. Krom priv 1, 2, 2
3d July 1780 Hend'k Kroon priv 1, 2, 2
20th Dec 1781 Henry Krom priv 19, 18, 2
State of New York
Comptroller's office, Albany, Jany 11th 1844}
first undder Capt Tobias Myer in Maj Adrian Wynkoop Regt
Second Capt Philip Swart in Maj Adrian Wynkoop regt
third Capt Tobias Van Bedeuren in Maj Adrian Wynkoop regt
fourth Capt Henry Pawling in Maj Albert Pawlng regt
Philip Phelps Dep Comptroller
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1777
(dutch)
T.4. May is met geboden getvonint Hendrick W. Krom I.M. gebooven endi woonhgtig ondev Moveneh
met Jaunrke Pheonix J.I. gebooren ende woonagtic onder Hody
 I John H. VanWagonen do depose and say, that I hold the office of Pastor of the Protestant Reformed Dutch Church of Kingston in the county of Ulster and that the above is a true extract and copy from the records of marriages of said church.
John H VanWagenen
sworn before me this 20th Dec 1843
Abm G Hardenbergh J. Peace.
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State of New York, Ulster county clerk's office ss: I Joseph H. Tuthill clerk of Ulster county do hereby  certify that Abraham G Hardenbergh before whom the annexed affidavits of Sarah Davis, Cornelius Quick, William H. Krum, Simon Krum and Christopher VanLeuvan were severally taken, was, on the day of the date of said several affidavits and the certificates accompanying the same, a Justice of the peace in and for said county, duly elected and qualified as such, and authorized by law to administer oaths and take affidavits and I do further certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice and verily believe  his signature to said several affidavits and certificates to be genuine. I do also certify that John H. Vanwagenen is Pastor of the  protestant reformed Dutch church of Kingston in said county, and that I believe his signature to the certificate of marriage to be genuine. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the said county this 25th day of January 1844
Joseph H. Tuthill clerk
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Rev WIDOW, &c.
file No. 20371
Jane Krum
widow of 
Hendrick W. Krum
Pri Rev war
Act July 4th 36
Index: Vol. A, Page 412

1914 May 22: list to Mr Theodore F. Lozier M.B.H.
1931 July 29 Hist to Mrs GD Torreyson see letter in John Shutts 17042
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Theodore F Lozier
Counselor at Law
Lords Court Building
27 William St.
New York May 15, 1914
Subject
Commissioner of Pensions, 
Department of the Interior,
Washington DC
Dear Sir, 
Will you kindly furnish me with a statement of the military history of Hendrick ( or Henry) Krom (or Crom or Crum)
who served as a soldier in the Revolutionary War according to the list of Revolutionary soldiers of New Yrok State, in Ulster County militia, third regiment, under Colonel Pawling, as Hendrick Crum, Jr.
If there is no record concerning him, was a pension ever applied for by his widow for his services. In either case furnish me with the wife's name, date of his birth and date of marriage, names of children if any appear, or anything else that appears on your records concerning the services of said Revolutionary soldier.
     There were other members of the Crum family by the name of Hendrick who served in the Revolutionary War, but they are referred to as members of the first Ulster county regiment, under Colonel John Snyder, where their names appear as Henry B. Crum and Henry W. Crum.
    The Revolutionary soldier whose record I desire is Henry Crum, Jr who must have been a different person  than those whose middle letters were B. & W.
    Trusting that you will send me the information desired at your earliest convenience in the usual form of certificate prepared for the purpose, I am, 
very truly yours,
Theo. S. Lozier
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Janetty Krum
papers
Dec 13 1844

Jeremiah Russell M. C.
Washington City
D.C.
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Stone Ridge N.Y. 12trh Dec 1844
Dear Sir, Enclosed I send you the affidavit of Wm. H. Krum as to the application by the heirs of Jane Krum for a pension.
this affidavit together with the proof on file, I think ought to satisfy the department that the services at Fishkill in 1779 should be allowed in addition to what has heretofore been considered as established by proof.
By a letter rec'd from you under date of the 25th April last and which I handed to you when last at your office, you will observe what portion of the services stated in the original declaration were considered as allowath by the proof accompanying the declaration I think that the proof will establish two years service at least. at any rate the 3 or 4 months at Fishkill in 1779 and the services at Wawarsing in 1777 when Kingston was burnt. ought to be added. You will observe that there are a number of heirs who are now all living and of lawful age of course it is important that this case should be attended to as the death of one or more of them leaving minors, would occasion considerable additional expenses please examine this case thoroughly, and take such a certificate as you think is right
sincerely yours, Abm G Hardenbergh
Hon J. Russell
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Stone Ridge 24th Feb 1844
Hon. J. Russell
I herewith enclose to you the declaration of the heirs of Jane Krum, widow of Hendrick W. Krum for a pension under the act of 4th July 1836
Hendrick W Krum died on the 2nd Feb 1827
was married to Jane Phenix 4 May 1777
Jane Krum the widow died 30th Sep 1837 leaving the heirs mentioned in the declaration and proof thereto annexed who claim the amount of pension due to the widow at the time of her death
Henry W. Krum son? as follows
1776 5 mo in N.Y. Capt John Hasbrouck, Col Hardenbergh. See affidavits of Sarah Davis + Cornelius Quick
1777 + 4 mo at Fort Montgomery Capt Jn Hasbourck, Col S. Pawling see affidavits of Com Quick + Christian Vanleuvan
4 mo after Kingston was burnt at Wawarsing under Capt Kortright, Col S. Pawling ( Christian Vanleuvan serve witness)
1778 4 mo at Peenpack Capt Ch Brodhead Col. L Pawling see affidavit of Christian Vanleuvan
1779 3 or 4 mo at Fishkill, Capt Ch. Brodhead, Col Hathorne see affidavits of Com Quick + Christian Vanleuvan this was after harvest.
in the forefront of the season a short term to Schoharie under Major Adrian Wynkoop, ( comptrollers certificate also affidavit of Christian Vanleuvan)
1780 tow short tours to Woodstock, once under Philip Swart + once under Philip Vanburen, are comptrollers certificate also Christian Vanleuvan's affidavit
4 mo in the fall of 1780 at Yaugh Kripplebusgh, Capt H. Pawling see affidavit of Chritian Vanleuvan
1781 8 mo at Shandakan Capt Henry Pawliong, Col Albert Pawling (comtrollers certificate also affidavits of Quick + Vanleuvan
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in addition to the above are the affidavits of two of the sons of Hendrick W. Krum, as to conversations with their  father in his lifetime, and before they had the most distant anticipation of a pension law these corraborate the testimony produced the sons are among our most respectable citizens, as you know.
  I have made the within abstract so as to facilitate the examination. be pleased to hand the papers to Mr. Edwards and request as early as decision as his convenience will allow.
Sometime since I sent to the office the declaration of Mrs. Ackert, widow of Jacob Ackert, and also some enquires as to the case of Christopher VanLeuvan and have not received an answer. please to direct the attention of the department to these cases.
Direct to me at Stone Ridge. 
Respectfully I remain yours truly
Abm G. Hardenbergh
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Wm H Krum
letter from Edwards
Apl 25 1844
Judge Dates 10 Apr 1779 in paper
Col.  Edwards letter 
to be return to 
Jeremiah Russell
There is a furlough in the papers which may be of use
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Pension Office,  April 25th 1844
Sir, I have the honor to inform you that the claim of Jane Krum deceased, has been examined and her papers filed. The proof of the marriage before the expiration of her husband's service is satisfactory.
The alleged service of five months in 1776, under Captain Hasbrouk corresponds with the known service of the New York militia at that period, but the alleged service in 1777 under the same officer did not exceed three months, which is estimated in her papers at four months. The four months claimed for service at Warwarsing in 1777 + was a patrol service at home to protect themselves and those who fled there from Kingston from domestic violence.
With respect to the alleged service of four months in 1778 under Captain Broodhead, and four months in 1779 under the same officer, such terms of service of the militia in those years derive no countenance from the knowledge of this department or the records at Albany.
The service of five months in 1776, three months in 1777 and eight months twenty two days
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in the Comptrollers certificate may be allowed upon the present exhibit
I have the honor to be very respectfully 
your obedient servant
JL Edwards
I accept of pension in which may be granted under the foregoing acknowledged services
respectfully yours Jeremiah Russell
Col. JL Edwards
Hon Jeremiah Russell 
House of Representatives
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J Russell
to Hon. J.L. Edwards 
letter Decem 10 1844
Jane Krum
Hon. J. Russell
HR
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H.R.
Decem 10 1844
Hon J.L. Edwards
  I have the Honor to report to you that I accept of the allowance for the services acknowledged by you on the 25 of April last for a pension for Jane Krum and beg of you to make out her certificate. I also desire you to take up the application of Catherine Brink and grant her pension under the act of March 3 1843.
Also the application of Gertrude Myer and grant her certificate under the same act/
And also the papers of Dianah Myer for services of her Deceased husband John D Myer. 2 years services were performed in the Revolutionary War prior to the records of any such services on the Comptrollers books at Albany N.Y.
John D Myers services were within that time
Be kind enough also to review the papers of John Ingraham's papers. Lately sent will cane within the points raised by the Hon. Secretary of War
I leave you herewith your two kind letters of Apl 25 + May 31 1844 Harry
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thing further appears ambiguous in the various referenced to in them. I shall be pleased to have hereafter) accept said letters.
If their is a case in the annals of our pension decisions which has, or can admit at now least leaning to a poor worthy man. It is the case of poor John Ingraham and I beg of you to soar above those just + natural prejudice against other claims to so clearly made and as might be desired. It is true he was trng healthy + Judershous when he enter the service. it is also equally how he got sick whilst in the duties of his country service was sent sick to the hospital brought him sick and debilitated to this day for the lake of protein to a worthy poor good soldier  histger ( possibly dutch) behave himself and country I seriously appeal to your better instincts. as also to the amiable and just feelings of the Hon. Wm Ser war. Jointly of certainty to do that Justice to this poor man which a grateful family delights to [illegible] and in which the whole community concerning the facts + circumstances will surely approve
I have the Honor to plead for a poor needy + worthy soldier hope I shall not be in vain + beg of you to excuse me for the sympathy issued
Jeremiah Russell
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Stone Ridge NY Dec 20 
Hon. Jeremiah Russell MC
Washington City D.C.
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Stone Ridge N.Y.
20th Dec. 1844
Dear Sir, I received yours of the 14th last evening in relation to the claim of the heirs of Jane Krum widow of Hendrick W. Krum deceased and am surprised that the commissioner has got entirely off the track in investigating the claim in the original papers on file in the pension office, the claim is presented by the children and heirs of Jane Krum widow of Hendrick W. Krum as follows Hendrick W. Krum served  as stated in the declaration he was married to Jane (who survived him) on the 4th May 1777, prior to the greatest part of his services. he died on the 2nd Feb 1827, leaving the said Jane his widow. she died on the 30th Sep 1837. she  was entitled to a pension during her life under the act of 1836. she never applied for a pension and now her children and heirs, by the papers on file, apply for the pension due their mother until the time of her death. by the letter of the 25th April last received by you from the department something over 16 months was considered as allowable  from the proof on file. I afterwards wrote to the department stating that I thought the proof on file would warrant some addition and I still think that an allowance ought to be added for the service at
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Wawarsing in 1777 when Kingston was burnt; this service is stated at 4; and so proved the services were important and necessary the whole population of Kingston had taken refuge there this was then on the frontiers and badly infested with Indians and Tories; and it was absolutely necessary to have a considerable force there to protect this population, as well as the inhabitants from the barbarities of the savage enemy. I think an allowance ought to be made for 3 or 4 months as stated in the declaration for service at Fishkill in 1779. I sent you a few days ago an affidavit of Wm H Krum as to this service. this service is proved by the affidavits on file of Christopher Vanleuvan and Com. Quick as also by a former affidavit of Wm. H. Krum and in addition by a certificate from John Cantine directed to Col. Snyder giving an excuse why Hendrick Krum the father of the applicants had been absent from this service, longer than his furlough viz the sickness of his wife. this service ought certainly to be allowed. and if you will take the trouble to examine the papers on file, I have no doubt you will come to the same conclusion.
 I stated in my last to you, that it was important that this case should be brought to a close. If any of the heirs should die, they would leave minor children which would give considerable trouble. will you be so good as to remind Mr Edwards of this, and as soon
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at your leisure will allow, get such a certificate as to you and the department shall appear to be the just due of the applicants. I think however upon a review of the case, that an addition will be made for the services within stated. 
Sincerely yours
Abm G Hardenbergh
Jer. Russell

PS our friends here tender you their thanks for [illegible] prompt attention to our post office concern the appointment meets the approbation of our men universally. and the whigs feel tickled that the manouver of the former incumbent has been so nicely frustrated.
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H. R. Washington City DC
Dec 23d 1844
Hon JL Edwards 
I noted + you will find a letter this moment received in the case of the heir of Janette Krum and to which I respectfully refer you 
and am sincerely yours Jeremiah Russell
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H. R. Washington City DC
Dec 24 1844
Hon. J.L. Edwards
Dear sir, I have received additional testimony in the case of Janette Krum. which I herewith send you. do me the favor to re-examine her papers + if possible allow her a pension. I understand from her brother who called to service before I left that when her husband was in the service she got sick and was confined. that he got a furlough to come home at the time. that said furlough is with the papers on file perhaps then circumstances may throw a glimmering of light on the subject
I am very respectfully yours
Jeremiah Russell
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6112
Jane Krum deceased
Widow of Hendrick NY
Act 4 July 1836
Admit 16 mo 22 days private
$ 55.77 commencing on 4 March 1831 not terminating on 30 September 1837
Payable to Wm H Krum
Matthew Krum, Rebecca
Merrihow, Mary Bull
Jane Lyons, Simon Krum
Hannah Schutt, and Henry Krum only surviving children of Jane Krum, deceased
Hon Jeremiah Russell
House of Representatives
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Stone Ridge NY 6th May 1844
Dear Sir, I received yours of the 27th letter enclosing the report of Mr. Edwards on the case of the heirs of Jane Krum deceased Mr. Edwards states that " the services of 5 mo in 1776, three months in 1777 and 8 months 22days in the Comptrollers certificate may be allowed upon the present exhibits"
I have since called on Mr Wm. H Krum and he says that he is very much disappointed on accounts of no allowance of the service of 3 or 4 months at Fishkill in 1779. this service is proved by the affidavits of Com. Quick and Christopher VanLeuvan as also by the affidavits of Wm. H. Krum and Simon his brother, who both testify to conversations with their father in his lifetime as to this service. and I consider the testimony confirmed by the letter from Col. John Cantine to Col. Snyder or the court martial from this it appears that Hendrick Krom then had a furlough, and on account of the state of his family, was detained beyond his time. and this certificate was given by Col. Cantine to excuse him for not returning within the furlough and the date corresponds with the time of the service. it is probable that this service instead of being in Col. Hathorne's regiment might have been in Col. Snyder's from the circumstance of this certificate being directed to Col. Snyder. I have no doubt this service has been performed, and hope that upon a re-examination Mr. Edwards will consider himself justified in adding it to the above.
Will you have the goodness to urge this part of the claim, and send on the certificate according to the decision. Mr Krum thinks the heirs justly entitled to an allowance of the service in 1779 at Fishkill. 
Sincerely yours
A. Hardenbergh
P.S- please to examine whether " Hendrick Krum or Hendrick W. Krum's name is set on the roll of Col. Snyder in 1779
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HG. Hardenbergh requires information in relation to a claim of Mrs Ackert, widow of Jacob Ackert also in the case of Christopher VanLeuvan
At your early convenience be so kind as to report the required answers to your obedient servant
Jeremiah Russell
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V Letter to Hon. J. Russell April 25, 44'
to same June 15 44'

Jane Krum 6112
New York Act July 4 1836
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H.R. May 8, 1844
Hon J.L. Edwards Dear sir, I received a letter from Judge Hardenbergh respecting the pension claim of his heirs of the widow Jane Krum He makes such remarks as  you will find in said letter which I enclose you and to which I most respectfully refer you. Please give it your early consideration and make out their pension certificate as you may think right and proper in the pension + enclose it to 
your obedient servant
Jeremiah Russell
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Stone Ridge 
June 12th
Hon. Jerm. Russell M.C. or in his absence J.L. Edwards Esq.
Washington City D.C.
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Stone Ridge 12th June 1844
Dear Sir, A few weeks ago I wrote you on the subject of the application of the heirs of Jane Krum for a pension. It appeared from a letter from the pension office that the department would allow for 5 months serviced in 1776 3 months in 1777, and 8 months, 22 days in the Comptrollers certificate. I then write to you requesting an examination of the case. and stated that the heirs considered that they were entitled to an allowance for the service of 3 or 4 months in 1779 at Fishkill. this service is proved by the affidavits of Com's Quick, Christopher VanLeuvan, and two of the heirs. and also by the old certificate dated 10th Nov 1779 signed by John Cantine, and directed to Col. Snyder who was in that service and probably was Mr Krum's Colonel.
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instead of Col Hathorne, as stated in the declaration. I have no doubt this service has been performed, and hope that it will be added to the services within stated, and a certificate issued accordingly.
If however the department should decide that the heirs are not entitled to an allowance for said services in 1779, let a certificate be issued as the department may think just. 
Sincerely yours
Abm. G. Hardenbergh
Hon J. Russell
N.B. the nomination of Mr Polk is received with the greatest satisfaction.
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Hon J.L. Edwards
I had determined yesterday not to trouble you again this Sept with any of my nasty sirools (sic).
But I hope you will allow me (for the last time I hope) to ask the favor of your kind attention to the annexed application of the Hon N.G. Hardenbergh one of the judges of my family a highly respectable man. and if possible make out the certificate at any him believes this and monday next and  present me to add my grateful acknowledgements for your kind, prompt and highly satisfactory manner. your have thus far on behalf the duty of your office on all applications I have made to you and of which it will always give me pride to that testimony on monday I intend to call and beg your advice
and have the Honor to be very respectfully yours
Jeremiah Russell
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H.R. May 1 1844
Hon. J.L. Edwards Sir, I have just received from your friend Wynkoop an application for arrears of pension of Tabitha Williams also of Samuel Krom for a pension which I enclose you and have the Honor to be very respectfully yours, Jeremiah Russell
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State of New York, Ulster county ss: William H. Krum of the town of Olive in said county, aged sixty years, being sworn says that he is the son of Hendrick W. Krum widow of said Hendrick W. Krum late of said town deceased, and of Jane Krum widow of said Hendrick W. Krum, that said Jane survived her said husband and died in the town of Olive aforesaid, leaving as her children and heirs, and her only children and heirs the several persons mentioned in the application by said heirs for a pension, now on file in the pension office., said deponent has frequently heard his father speak of his services at Fishkill in 1779. he had heard him uniformly tell that when he was ordered to Fishkill he lived in Hurley, in the bounds of Col Snyders regiment. that when he first came to Fishkill he was under the command of Col. Snyder that after serving for sometime under Col Snyder; the said Snyder was appointed one of the committee on confiscated lands, and then he the said Hendrick W Krum was placed under the command of Col Hathorne
William (his X mark) Krum
sworn + subscribed this 16th Nov 1844 before me 
Abm G Hardenbergh J. peace

State of New York county of Ulster ss: 
this may certify that Abraham G Hardenbergh before whom the above affidavit was taken was on the day of the date of said affidavits a Justice of the peace for said county duly elected and qualified as such, and authorized by law to take affidavits. I do also certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said justice, and believe his signature above written to be genuine. 
Given under my hand and seal of office this 30th Nov 1844.
Richard Keaton Dep. clerk of Ulster county courts