Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4911, John Hipp, N.C.
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Service
N.C

Hipp, John

Number
R.4911
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John Hipp Petition
for 9 months service
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State of N. Carolina} Court of Please and quarter session
Buncombe County  }  October term 1832
On this 18th day of October personally appeared in Open Court before the justices of the Court of Pleas and quarter Session of Buncombe County of State of N Carolina Now Sitting John Hipp-a resident of said County and State his age 74 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 to wit he was born in the year 1759 December 25th (has no record of his age) in Mecklenburg County State of North Carolina He entered the service at the age of 18 years as a Volunteer for 3 months under Capt. Matthew McLure He joined the Regiment commanded by Col Thomas Polk in Macklinburg County He marched to Pleasant Gardens Burk County in Said State and joined Gen'L Rutherfords Reg't. He marched out to the Indian Nation and remained untill he rec'd his discharge He volunteered again for 3 months uner Capt. McNitt Alexander. He rec'd his discharge rom Capt. Alexander which he has lost. He volunteered again 3 months under Capt James Thompson in the rifle company and was at Charlotte at the time it was taken by Lord Cornwallis---on in a few miles. He was here in the 2nd Regiment commissioned by Col. George Alexander of Macklenburg County.
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He Re'd a discharge from Capt Thompson which he has lost. He served in the Regular service 9 month in all which he received discharges for. He lived in Macklenburg County untill 28 year old thence moved to Newberry D.S. S. Car. and lived 20 years thence to Burton County State of N. Car. 26 years and where he now resides I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare my name is not on the pension roll of any State Subscribed the day and year aforesaid
John Hipp
We James Gudger & Robt P Wells - residing in the neighbourhood of John Hipp hereby certify that we are well acquainted with him who has subscribed and Sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be 74 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion Sworned to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid
James Gudger
R. P. Wells
And the said Court do hereby certify and declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states
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And the Court further certifies that Jas. Gudger and R P Wells resides in the same neighbourhood and their statement are entitled to credit. 
I John Miller Clerk of the Court of Pleas and quarter Sessions of Buncombe County N.C. do hereby certify that the original contains the proceeding in the matter of the Application of John Hipp for a pension in testimony
I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal of Office
this day 18th Oct A D 1832
Jno. Miller Clk
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State of Georgia}
County of Gilmer} On this 15th day of July A.D. One thousand Eight Hundred and fifty four, personally appeared in open Court before the Court of Ordinary now sitting, Margaret Sharp aged 51 Years a resident of Gilmer County in the State of Georgia who first being duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed the 7th of June 1832, and the subsequent provisions made to the same. That she is the daughter of the identical John Hipp deceased who was a Revolutionary Soldier of the State of North Carolina, That he entered the service of the United States in the County of Mecklenburg and State of North Carolina, and served a three months tour in the Company commanded by Captain McClure in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Polk. That he served a second tour of three months in the Company Commanded by Captain Allexander in the Regiment commanded by Colonel [blank] and that he also served a third tour in the Company commanded by Captain Thompson in the 2nd Regiment of Mecklenburg County commanded by Colonel [blank]. She further declares that the said John Hipp died in the County of Buncombe in the State of North Carolina on or about the Eighth day of November A.D. 1835 and that her Mother named Jane Hipp died on or about the 18th day of July A.D. 1816 and that they were married in the County of Newberry in the State of South Carolina on or about the [blank] day of [blank] in the year Eighteen hundred and two by one [blank] a [blank]
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She further states that there are Four other children of the said John Hipp and Wife now living whose names are as follows, Jude Plemmons, Ann Ingram, John Hipp and Jane Hipp only surviving children of the said John Hipp and Jane Hipp deceased. That the said John Hipp (Deponents Father) made application for pension whilst a resident of Buncomb County North Carolina but never received a pension
Margaret [her x mark] Sharp

Sworn to and Subscribed before me on this the 15th day of July A.D. 1854, And I hereby certify that I am disinterested in the prosecution of this claim to Pension 
Moses Greer Ordinary

State of Georgia}
Gilmer County} On this 15th day of July A.D. One thousand Eight Hundred and fifty four personally appeared before me the undersigned, James Sharp a resident of the County and State aforesaid who being duly sworn according to law deposeth and saith on oath that the annexed record of the death of John Hipp mentioned in the foregoing declaration was made by him, and in his own hand write (said John Hipp having died at the House of the said deponent) and that it has remained in his possession ever since without any alteration whatever.
James Sharp
Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year above written. }
Moses Greer Ordinary }
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[evidence laid over bottom paragraph and signature on page]

It is hereby Certified that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited to this Court showing that John Hipp named in the foregoing declaration died on the Eighth day of November A.D. 1835 as will now fully appear by the affidavit of James Sharp and the Record hereto annexed and that there are four children of the said John Hipp deceased who are now living
[evidence covering] [testimony] (where of I
… to set my hand and Seal this 15th day … A.D. 1852
[Moses] Greer Ordinary

[writing on evidence] James Sharp and Margaret Sharp was marryed the 23 of Sept 1824
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It is hereby Certified that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited to this Court showing that John Hipp named in the foregoing declaration died on the Eighth day of November A.D. 1835 as will now fully appear by the affidavit of James Sharp and the Record hereto annexed and that there are four children of the said John Hipp deceased who are now living 
[seal affixed] In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this 15th day of July A.D. 1852 
Moses Greer Ordinary
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Thomas Sharpe Snr Died
January 25th 1834


John Hipp snr
died November 8th 1835
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John Hepp
No. Ca.

Rev

O.R.M.

[illegible] p70
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WAR DEPARTMENT, Pension Office, [no date written] 183

Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: }). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.

A Statement, shewing the Service of John Hipp
[table with column headings as follows] Period when the service was rendered. | Duration of the claimant’s service. Years. Months. Days. | Rank of the claimant. | Names and rank of the Field officer under whom he served. | Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. | Proof by which the declaration is supported.
[line 1] 1777 vol. | 3 [months] | Pri. | Col. T. Polk | 74 years | [blank]
[line 2] “ | 3 [months] | “ | [blank] | Mecklinburg Co N.C. | Traditionary
[line 3] “ | 3 [months] | “ | Col. G. Alexander | [blank] | [blank] 
I am, respectfully, Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.

The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia" and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who  volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to  Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops.
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.
4. Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, mucicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.

DECLARATION,

In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or 
District of County of⎬

On this         day of               personally appeared (a) before     A.B. a resident (b)  
    of      in the county of and State, Territory or District       of        aged(c)      
years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the
following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the  United States in the year (d)            served in the with (e)                regiment of the  
         line, under the following named officers:

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any  Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.                  A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I            of the Court of              do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of                
for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this   
day of          &c.

If an examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the              and C.D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with         who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be         years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the
and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the             and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I,             Clerk of the Court of                      do hereby certify that the foregoing
contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of                               for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal 
of office, this            day of       & c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evedence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his
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alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted ; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be exexpected . All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his
case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6. {To a Soldier. {Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given , and what has become of it?
{To an Officer{  Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what an officer, has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.

The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons--one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character
and standing of other persons giving such certificates.

The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.

Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.

Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.

No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure , taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.

[a]  The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will for low the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b]  The declarant must make his declaraton in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for notconforming to the rule.
[c]  The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d]   The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e]  Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:--For---year----months, and----days, I served as a---------. For ----- months and -----days, I served as -----; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, in the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some person who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what offices the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant service with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f]  The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g]  The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h]  The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i]   The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the cortifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.

In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.

[j]  In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
-----The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This tradionary evidence is inpensable in militia cases.
[l]  If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m]  The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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State of N Carolina 
Buncombe County⎬   Personally appeared before me Thomas J. Patton an acting Justice of the peace in and for said County James Sharp to resident and native of the aforesaid County and who is now a pensioner of the United States who having been first duly sworn according to Law doth hereby certify that John Hipp who hath this day appeared before the said county court of pleas and quarter sessions for said county with me he entered the service of the United States in the Revolutionary War in the County of Mecklenburg in this State for the Term of three months as a volunteer under Captain Mathew McClure and joined Col. Thomas Polks Regiment and served out said tour with me and after having been discharged, he volunteered again under Captain McKitt Alexander and served said the months and was again discharged by Captain Alexander That he again volunteered under Captain James Thompson in the Rifle company but was not with me during said Term. I further certify that I believe the said John Hipp did serve this three months, as a true whig to his country and that all his acts in the revolution were entitled to full faith & credit Given under my hand & seal this 23d day of October A.D. 1834-
Tho L Patton JP           Jas Thompson

 Also personally appeared before me Thomas L  Patton an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County of Buncombe and State of No Carolina John Reynolds a presiding minister of the Gospel and States on his Oath the said John Hipp as above has been a resident of my neighbourhood for many years and has allways borne the character of
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a revolutionary soldier, and correct citizen and I do fully concur with with his claim as set forth before me for a pension given from under my hand and seal this 23 day of October A.D. 1834
Tho L Patton J P         JW Reynolds

State of N. Carolina
Buncombe County ⎬   I John Miller Clerk of the County Court of Buncombe County do hereby certify that Thomas L. Patten is a a magistrate as above and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine
in testimony whereof I have hereunto
affixed my seal of office and
subscribed my name this 24th day of
October 1834-
Jno Miller Clk
of Buncombe County Court.
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[crossed out] Acts of July 14, 1832, and March 3, 1873.

REJECTED

4911
P. O.    John Hipp
Service:


Enlisted:        ,18
Discharged:      ,18

Application filed:   ,18
Alleges:
Re-enlisted:
Attorney:
P.O.

Recognized.      Contract.
Cert. of Dis.   Searched for    ,18
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State of Georgia
County of Gilmer ⎬ Know all men by these presents that Sharp of the County
of Gilmer in the State of Georgia do hereby Constitute appoint and authorize irrevocably W.R Quay and Henry H Walker of Stock Hill Georgia my true and lawful Attorney for me and in my name place and stead to ask and Receive of and from the United States Goverment officers any arrears of Pension or Pension that may be due me as Daughter and Heir of John Hipp who was a Revolutionary Soldier of the State of North Carolina and died leaving the same Undrawn, as in Right of Law Custom or Equity I am or may be entitled is hereby confirming my said Attorneys legal acts in and about the premises,
In Testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my name and affixed my seal
in the presence of us.
Coke A Ellington J.P.                        James Sharp
Riley Powell                                      for his Wife Margaret Sharp

State of Georgia
County of Gilmer ⎬  Before me the undersigned an acting Justice of the Peace within and for the County and State aforesaid Personally appeared James Sharp for his wife Margaret Sharp and acknowledged the foregoing [crossed out]Signa
Power of Attorney to be her act and deed.
Given under my hand and seal on
this the 17th day of March A.D. 1854
Coke A Ellington J.P
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State of Georgia
Gilmer County    ⎬ I Ransom B Perry Clerk of Superior Court in and for the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that A. Ellington Esq. before whom the foregoing Power of Attorney and acknowledgement was made was at the time of the Signing thereof and acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Gilmer and State of Georgia duly Commissioned and sworn and his
Signature thereto is Genuine
In Testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my name and affixed
my Official Seal at Elleyay on this 
Marcy 17th A.D. 1854
R B Perry C S C.
seal affixed
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Stock Hill Ga.
Sept 18th 1854,

Dear Sir
In your answer to the to the claim of the children of John Hipp deceased of the 28th of July you inform us that then ever circumstances connected with the claim of John Hipp at the time the application was filed that induced the Officers of the Department to suppose the claim to be fraudulent and that there is now an indorsement of the Original application (supposed to be fraudulent)
But you inform us that there is no papers or Record in your Office showing the reason or cause for said indorsement, but is sufficient cause or grounds for calling for or requiring the closest identity.  In reply to the above. We have to say to you that James Sharp Esq. (A. Man of high standing in society, and who has been a member to the Legislation of the State of North Carolina Representing the County of Buncombe), who informs us that he was acquainted with John Hipp and was present in the Court room when said John Hipp made out his declaration, and that he is ready to testify that the same was legally made, and that John Hipp was a
man of good standing, and would not
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by any means claim anything but what was Just.  He further informs us, that the most prominent citizen of Buncombe County will certify, that the claimant John Hipp was a man of good standing and a man of truth and would not at all. make a fraudulent claim upon the Government, or any person else whatever,
But Mr Sharp thinks that the Supposed grounds for fraud, are simply this
Thomas Patton presented the claim of John Hipp to the Department about the Year thirty three, and it was but a very short period of time. until. Thomas Patton above named was arrested by the State Marshall for forging and making out fraudlent claims against the Government of the United States, and thereby obtaining money fraudulently. (or at least that was the charge), and as to the said Thomas Patton was the prosecutor of the claim alluded to, and the claim being presentedabout the time of his delection, he supposes that to be the grounds of the endorsement being made on the original application (supposed to be fraudulent). We would therefore respectfully call your attention to these statements, and if the testimony above intimated will be_
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sufficient to satisfy Government Officers please so inform us, and we will then proceed and obtain the same, and forward to you, And should we prove by reliable testimony that the said John Hipp did enter the service from the County of Mecklenburg N.C. and the Comptroller General of N.C. Certifies that there was but one person of that name who served from that Military District Will you inform us whether that kind of testimony will be sufficient to identify the claimant John Hipp to be the John Hipp named in the Comptrollers Certificate or not
We are very Respectfully Your
Obedient Servants
Perry & Walker

Hon L. P. Waldo
Comr of Pensions
Washington City
D.C.
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Suspended
Rev. Pension Claim
Act of June 7. 1832


John Hipp
N Carolina


Power of Attorney
to examine claim


Chas C. Tucker
Atty.
Present.
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Power of Attorney

Know all men by these presents: that I John T. Hipps do hereby constitute and appoint Charles C. Tucker of Washington City, D.C. my true and lawful agent and Attorney to prosecute the claim of John Hipp for any amount of Revolutionary Pension or increase of Pension that may be due under the provison of the act of 7th June 1832 or any other act or Resolution of Congress; and I hereby authorize my said Attorney to examine all papers & documents in relation to said claim on file in the Department at Washington City, or elsewhere, to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive the Certificate which may be issued for said claim, and to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed, and to do all things that I might or could do, were I personally present; hereby ratifying & confirming all that my said Attorney may lawfully do in the premises.
Witness my hand & seal this 10th day of November
A.D. 1854
In presence of
J.B. Sawyer
John his X mark Hipps
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State of North Carolina
Buncombe County SS.
on this 10th day of Novr. 1854, before me an Acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County & State aforesaid, personally appeared John T. Hipps and acknowledged the foregoing Power of Attorney to be his act & deed for the
purpose therein mentioned 
J.P. Sawyer

State of North Carolina
Buncombe County   SS.
On this 10th day Novr 1854, before me the undersigned an acting Justice of the Peace in for the County & State aforementioned, personally appeared John T. Hipp a resident of said County and made oath according to law that he is the identical John T. Hipp who executed the foregoing Power of Attorney, and that he is directly interested in said claim, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my said Attorney may use in prosecuting said claim,
John his X mark T. Hipp
sworn to & subscribed the day & year above
written.
J B. Sawyer J.P.
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State of North Carolina
Buncombe County

J. R. B. Vance Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Session for the County
of Buncombe & State aforesaid do hereby certify that J B. Sawyer Esq. before whom this foregoing acknowledgement and affidavit were made and who has hereunto signed his name, was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace, in & for the County & State aforesaid, duly commissioned & sworn, and that all his official acts as such are entitled to full faith & credit
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto signed my name and affixed
my official seal this 10th day of Nov A.D. 1854
R. B. Vance Clk
By R. M. Jones PClk
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John Hipp
NC
Act 7 June 32
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Know all men by these presents that I, John T. Hipp. Son of John Hipp Decd, do hereby constitute and appoint George C. Ames of Washington City my true and lawfull attoney for me and in my name to prosecute. my claim for a Pension in right of my Deceased Father, John Hipp Decd to Examine all the papers now on file in said can and to file other proof and do all lawful acts and things in and about said case hereby Revoking all former Power of attorney heretofore made by me hereby Ratifying & confirming all that my said attorney may Lawfully do in & about said Claim witness my hand and seal this    day of July 1886
test Ervin West 

John his X mark Hipp
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Stock Hill, Ga
July 17th 1854

Hon L.P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions

Dear Sir
Enclosed we send you the declaration of Margaret Sharp who claims the amount of pension that may be due his & the other Heirs for the services of John Hipp deceased who was a soldier of the Revolution.  We send annexed to the Court certificate a part of a leaf out of the Family Bible containing. The record of the death of said John Hipp. She too has the Record of his Mothers death as stated in the declaration, but as there is nothing due in right of the Widow we deem it necessary to show any thing more than that she is dead. She died prior to the death of the Soldier as you will see by The declaration. In your answer last sent to us You inform us that the Comptrollers Certificate that we obtained from the Comptroller General of North Carolina was not sufficient to identify John Hipp the person whose pension is now claimed to be the same with that John Hipp Mentioned in the Comptrollers certificate, which gives a statement of three payments, and each payment would be a sufficient sum, to cover three months service which in our mind goes clearly to show. That in asmuch as said John Hipp claimed to have served three
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tours of three months service each tour, unless There was another John Hipp that had served as a private from North Carolina and had reced three payments for his services it is as clear as a sunbeam that the as the said John Hipp in  whose right his Heirs now claim, is and was the identical John Hipp mentioned in the Comptrollers Certificate, which we sent to your Office in support said claim, will you please inform us what other evidence will be required to adjust his claim if any,
We are Respectfully Your
Obedient Servants
Perry Walker
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Stock Hill Geo.
May 19th 1856.

Dear Sir

In answer to yours of 3 of Oct. 1854 Respecting the claim of John Hipp who was a Revolutionary Soldier from the State, of North Carolina Respecting the "endorsement" that you found upon the papers, J.E. Supposed "to be" fraudulent, &c, We deem it proper, and just, to the present, Claimant to State to you, that, that endorsement, was doubtless Made, from the "fact" that the papers were made out, and presented by Thomas Patton of Buncombe Co. N.C. We presume, and who about the time the claim was filed or soon thereafter was arrested and convicted for forgery against the Pension Office, and because the papers were prepared by or through his agency we suppose, the endorsement was thus made by the Commissioner, 

This being the fact we do think that the entry so Refered to should operate to the exclusion of a Just Claim, when the Reasons for such entry is obvious, our letter which you answered on the 3th Oct, 1854, was not intended to call out an answer upon Testimony before it was produced. but, was intended to learn whether such testimony to wit, Witnesses stating their means of knowing that the John Hipp the soldier who declared this claim was, the same person, who resided in N.C. and for whom the Compts Certified that payments were to, for Military service in said War would be admited, as evidence unless=
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they themselves were, in the service with the Soldier, or whether the "office" under the circumstances of this claim, intended nor other but,
the testimony of his comrade Soldiers to be Regarded sufficient to identify the Claimants in this event, such a Requition would at this late day, amount to a denial of the claim. But in this case, we do not suppose that the last, Character of evidence only will be insisted upon as the soldier himself declared his claim early after the "Act" of 1832, had passed their are witnesses yet living, who have known Mr Hipp for the last half Century prior to his death, who knew the Reputation of John Hipp as a Revolutionary soldier from Revolutionary pensioners whether such Statements from, Witnesses of unimpeachable Varacity would be admissible in this case or not. We know that such Testimony under the general, Rule now enforced by your "office" would not now be held sufficient. The Comptroller General of N. Carolina States to us, that it appears from the Records of his Office the three payments, were made to the same person, and gives it as his opinion that one man, Rendered the 3 different tours of Service.  We do not wish to be regarded insisting or arguing any claim further than its merits. Will Justify. We Respectfully ask
Your examination of all the papers filed in this support of this claim, and point out the hindering causes of the Claim not being allowed from the Soldiers declaration together with the papers since filed -
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We are very Respectfully
Your Obt Servts
Query & Walker

Hon. J. Minot Commr
of Pensions
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Stock Hill GA
Mar 20th 1854

Hon L.P. Waldo, Esq

Dear Sir
We now send you a power of Attorney made to us by Margaret Sharp Heir of John Hipp a Revolutionary Soldier of the State of North Carolina. under which we wish you to examine the files in your office and see whither the claim of said John Hipp has been suspended or rejected. Or whither the same has been admitted In either case please inform us of the result of your examination,
We are very Respectfully
Your Obedient Servants
Query & Walker
P.S. The claim was filed by Thomas Patten in the year 1833, and the claim
was perhaps admitted
Yours truly
Query & Walker
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Pension Claim
Act June 7th 1832



Hon. J. Minot Com. of Pensions
Department of Interior
Washington City
D.C.

lightly written to the left side 
Horizontal: Stock Hill, Geo
May 20th

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John Hipp
NC Act 1832
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No. 38793

John Hipp
North Carolina
Suspended
Letter 12 Jany 1835
Hon. James Graham
Sup to be fraudulent
Atry Query & Walker
March 30/ 54
Query & Walker 22 June 1854
Let same July 28/54
Same Oct 3. 1854

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Stock Hill Ga
June 12th 1854.

L. P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions

Dear Sir 

Enclosed you will find the Comptrollers Certificate showing the payments for three different tours; as alledged by the Soldier himself (John Hipp), which we think clearly sustains, the declaration on file.  You see in the declaration. That said John Hipp served three different tours you also see from The Comptrollers certificate that John Hipp Received payment for three different tours. We think there is a perfect agreement in the declaration and Comptrollers certificate, and beside this we can show if required that said John Hipp is the only man of that name that appears on The Roll of North Carolina of the Revolutionary War.  We therefore did it unnecessary to offer any further proof until we hear from you.
We remain with due respect
Your Obedient Servants
Query & Walker

Hon L. P. Waldo
Washington City
D C
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38, 793
John Hepp N. Ca
Hon Jas. Graham Jany 12
1853 - Query & Walker

Mch 30 1854- same
22 June 1854- same
July 28 1854 - same
Oct 3 1854- same
June 12 1886 -
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June 7 1832
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Stock Hill Ga
Sept 28th /52
Official Business
Hon L.P. Waldo Comr.
Department of the Interior
Washington City D.C.
John Hipp
N.C.
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No. 38, 793
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State of North Carolina
Comptroller's Office
I William J. Clarke, Comptroller of Public accounts in and for the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that it appears of record in my office among the payments made to sundry persons for military services in the Revolutionary war, as follows, to wit:
"John Hipps"
Book No 8 Page 27 $6.0.0 Specie April 1784
Book No 24 Page 94 $6.0.0    "
Vol. A.   Entry    7523 $9.0.0    "                            
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said office
May 22nd, 1854
Wm J. Clarke, Comptroller

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