Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8570, for James Ramsey, South Carolina
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(3-1776)
SERVICE
S.C.
Ramsey, James
NUMBER
R 8570.
CONTENTS
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[sideways] No 3 April 23/53

Sugar Creek April 23th 1853
Dear Uncle James - I received in a letter from cousin Rufus Ramsay one or part of one from you or your son. It was truly news to me to hear that you were in the land of the living - for I with others of your relations have written to you without receiving any answer. You wish to know how long your Father and Mother have been died also their age - Grand Mother has been dead about thirty years her age was sixty two and grand Father about eighteen his age was ninety one or he was in his ninety first year. 
My Father has been dead three years he died in his seventy seventh year - your Brother and sisters are all dead except Uncle Robert Uncle William died some years before [illegible] Uncle George has been dead near two years. Aunts have all been dead several years and Uncles now are all gone. Uncle James Good the last a few weeks back. My cousins that are living with the exception of one in California (a daughter of Uncle William's) are in this State and doing pretty well. My Brothers John Norris and Stanhope live in this neighbourhood the farthest seven miles. Oswald and William are dead
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My sisters Jane married a man by the name of Harris and is living in Texas Mary the youngest of the family married a man by the name of Shaver they live in Missouri. From what I have written you will learn that your Brothers and sisters with one exception have gone to the grave and soon we must go and the places which know us now will know us no more forever. Dear uncle let us wisely act that we may be able to render up our account with joy and not with grief you must feel that you are on the border or near it and must in a short time close your eyes on all transitory things. I hope you are prepared by the grace of God for an enterence into his heavenly kindom.
Your family I know nothing of But would be happy to form an acquaintance with them and keep up a correspondence. I wish you to write on the reception of this giving a full account of your family for I know nothing about them and therefore can say nothing to them more that this - give my best respects to them many or few
I subscribe myself yours in love
J. A. Ramsay
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No. 5

Jun 25/53
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Highland Madison County June 25 1853
Dear Uncle I received years of the 11 of May which gave me the plasing intelligence of your wellfare and that of your family. I recollect seeing you a few times in my boyhood of your family I know nothing. I wish you to write me the number of your family and whether they are all with you or not and if not where they are I would be happy to form an acquaintance with them. I and my wife are well so are my Brothers and their families with the rest of our relations in this vicinity. Mrs Elizabeth Jingles sends her respects to you she was a daughter of Wm. Berry's her brother Abner went to school with you I think there is no person else here with whom you are acquainted.
I have attended to your business. I got the advise a lawyer who is in the land office in Edwardsville and then got the clerk to write all that he considered necessary in the case. There is no person living here now that was personally acquainted with Grand Father in Carolina or in the Revolution. The Clerk's fee was seventy five cents the Lawyer I had some other business with his fee will be but a trifle. If you get anything you can send me what I have to pay if nothing I want nothing. Give my respects to your family
I remain your affectionate Nephew
J. A. Ramsay
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1857.
State of Illinois
Madison County
August Term of County Court sitting as a Court of Probate- Present Hon Henry K Eaton County Judge & John A Prickett Clerk.
Edwardsville Friday August 14, 1857.
And now at this day the Court heard the testimony of James A Ramsay & James M Craig the first of whom is about 62 years of age and said Craig about 53 years of age, both credible witnesses and good & reliable men of said County, their evidence shows that James Ramsay Grandfather of said James A Ramsay, removed from South Carolina to Madison County, Illinois Territory about the year 1816, where he continued to reside until his death in 1832, that said James Ramsay was in the 91st year of his age when he died, that in his lifetime he often spoke of having been a soldier in what is called the Revolutionary war; in the presence of one or both of said witnesses he frequently mentioned incidents of the war, such as his having been at what was called the Battle of the "Hanging Rock", of very many skirmishes with the British and Tories, and mentioned many places & battles in which he was engaged as an American Soldier their names not now recollected by the witnesses - It also appears clear from the testimony that the numerous family & family connections of said James Ramsay always understood that said James Ramsay was engaged in the American service most of the time of said war, and was rarely at home. The father of said James A Ramsay often remarked that said James Ramsay was in the service throughout the war, and was only
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occasionally at home. The witnesses do not remember having heard the said James Ramsay state as to the time he served, but they are satisfied from what they have heard the older members of the family say, that the said James Ramsay must have been some years in said service. 
The Evidence of said James A Ramsay and James M Craig further proves that Mary McFalls Ramsay wife of said James Ramsay came with her husband to Illinois as before written in 1816, and died in Madison County State of Illinois on the 20th day of April AD 1823 (1823)

State of Illinois
Madison County
I John A Prickett Clerk of the County Court of said County Certify the foregoing to be a true copy & exemplification of the record of the proceedings in the case as therein set forth, as will fully appear reference being had to the files & records of my office.
Given under my hand and the seal of said Court at Office Edwardsville said County this 14th day of August AD 1854 
John A Prickett Clerk
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No
[illegible]
James Ramsey
Decd. Ga
1832
Rejected
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State of Georgia
Habersham County S.S.
On this 27th day of September 1853, Personally appeared in open court before the court of Ordinary at a call Term now sitting James Ramsey a resident of said County and State aged Seventy five years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.
That he is the son of James Ramsey who often informed him that he performed a great deal of service in the revolutionary war in the State of South Carolina and has shown him three Indents which he said he received for his services in said war. Affiant also further says that he has reasons from the above facts to believe that he served as an officer and private but does not recollect that he ever heard him say in what capacity he served. that he the said James Ramsey died on the 20th day of February 1832 in the State of Illinois and that he affiant applies for the Pension due him at his death, he and Robert Ramsey being the only surviving heirs their being no widow, He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state. Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid and I hereby certify that I am not interested in the result of this case nor concerned in its prosecution.
C. H. Sutton Ordinary
James Ramsey

I Cicero H. Sutton Clerk Exoficio of the Court of Ordinary do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of James Ramsey for a pension.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 27th day of September 1853. And I certify that I am not interested in the result of this case nor concerned in its prosecutions
Cicero H. Sutton Ex officio clk C.O.
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January 8, 1934
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JAMES RAMSEY
R. 8570
BA-J/MLB

Mr. George R. Momyer
Office of Senior High School
18" & E Streets
San Bernardino, California

Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of a soldier with surname Ramsey, given name probably James, who served as quartermaster or bugler from a southern state and whose parents were of Georgia. 
With the data furnished by you it has not been possible to determine definitely the record of the particular soldier in whom you may be interested. The record of one James Ramsey has been found which may be of interest to you. It is given below as found in pension claim, R. 8570, based upon the Revolutionary War service of James Ramsey.
The date and place of soldier's birth and names of his parents are not shown in the claim. He resided in York County, South Carolina, until the fall of 1816 when he moved to Madison County, Territory of Illinois.
The soldier died February 20, 1832, at the age of ninety years, at the home of his son (name not designated), in Madison County, Illinois, where he was buried.
James Ramsey married, date not stated, Mary McFalls, who died April 20, 1823, in Madison County, Illinois, at the age of sixty-two years.
James Ramsey and his wife, Mary, had ten children whose names follow: John, Thomas, James, Polly, Catharine, William, Robert, Isabella, George who died about 1851, and Rachel. The only surviving children in 1853 were James, the third child, then a resident of Habersham County, Georgia, and Robert a resident of Giles County, Tennessee.
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On September 27, 1853, while residing in Habersham County, Georgia, with post office at Clarkesville in that county, soldier's son, James Ramsey aged seventy-five years, who lived with his father until twenty-five years of age, applied in behalf of himself and his brother, Robert, for the pension that may have been due on account of the Revolutionary War service of his father, James Ramsey, to whom he referred as Captain Ramsey.
He alleged that James Ramsey, the soldier, resided at the time of the Revolution and prior to that time in York County, South Carolina, and that he served in that war as a private and officer in the South Carolina militia, but gave no other details of his service. It was stated that the soldier was in the battle of Hanging Rock and many skirmishes with the British.
His claim was not allowed as there was no provision of the law under which a child of this soldier was entitled to pension.
In 1857, soldier's son, James Ramsey, was still a resident of Habersham County, Georgia, with post office at Duane.
In 1853, soldier's grandson, James A. Ramsay (as he signed his surname), and his wife, name not given, were residents of Madison County, Illinois, with post office at Highland, same county; he stated that his father, whose name he did not designate, had died three years before, in his seventy-seventh year; in 1857, James A. Ramsay was aged about sixty-two years and referred to his brothers: John Norris and Stanhope then living in Madison County, Illinois, and to Oswald and William both dead; also to sisters, Jane, who married one _ Harris and then residing in Texas, and Mary, the youngest, who married one _ Shaver and then a resident of the State of Missouri. He also referred to an uncle, James Good, who had died a few weeks before, and to cousins (names of their parents not designated) who were living in Illinois, also to a daughter of soldier's brother, William, then living in California (her name not given).
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator
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1934, Jan. 8 - Hist. to Geo. W. Momyer MLB.

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8,570
P.O. James Ramsay
Service:
REJECTED
Enlisted:
Discharged:
Application filed:
Alleges:
Re-enlisted:
Attorney:
P. O.
Recognized. Contract.
Cert. of Dis. Searched for
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No 38.636
James Ramsay
Decd. Ga.
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James Ramsay Oct 17 1853
same Nov 17./53
same Jny 14 1854
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[funny arrow] Did not live 'till June 1832
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Lived to Feby 1832
Sec. Ind. July 17/54
Decesic affirm see let
James Ramsey July 26/54
the title of see over the appellant
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not returned with the papers
Act June 7 1832

Jul 26/54
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Let. Hon J. S. Hillyer
July 26/54
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[page is torn and items are crossed out]
38,636
Jas. Ramsay decd.
8570 Ga
Jas. Ramsay Oct 17 1853
" " Nov 17 1853
" " Jany 14 1854
[illegible Int] July 17 1858
Pension affirmed see
J Hillyer July 26 185-
Jas. Ramsay Dec 7 18--
same July 6 1855
Same Sept 1st 1857
Same Aug 13, 1858

June 7 1832
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Mr G. C. Whiting
Your letter to me of Sept. 57 is now before me-You inform me there was not any law passed in the last congress that would be in my favour. I thought the former laws was us that of the Meads & Persians but be that as it may as I waited so long I will now wait the decision of next congress and if there is any more required on my part please let me know it as soon as possable Yours &C James Ramsey
October 57
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P.S. It is the opinion of Mr. Arthur of Columbia S. C. that I am entitled to the pay of Capt. James Ramsey but him or some one since in office says it will depend on the decission at the City of Washington-
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James Ramsey, Esq.
Clarksville
Habersham Co
Georgia
Sept 1, 1857.
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Pension Office,
Sept 1st 1857.
Sir:
In answer to your letter of 19th ultimo I have to inform you that no law was passed by the last Congress that could benefit your claim to arrears, for service of your late father, James Ramsay, in the Revolutionary war. The case remains in the same condition as at the date of the letters to you of December 7th, 1854, and January 6th, 1855.
The question whether children of Revolutionary soldiers are entitled to the pension money their fathers failed to obtain is now before the Attorney General, for his opinion.


James Ramsey, Esq.
Clarksville
Habersham Co.
Georgia
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[stamp] CLARKSVILLE AUG 19
[stamp] FREE
George C. Whiting
Commissioner of Pensions D.C.
Washington City D.C.

James Ramsay
Ga sus 1832
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James Ramsey
Dec. 7/54.
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77
Pension Office
Dec 7 1854
Sir
No difficulty will be raised by this office in relation to the date of the death of James Ramsay decd of Ga. But it must be shown, as required in my letter of the 26 of July to Hon J Hillgen, that he served as long as six months in the war of the Revolution


James Ramsay Esq
Clarkesville
Ga
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James Ramsay
Oct 17/53
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375
Pension Office
Octo 17 1853
Sir
Your application for a pension for the services of your father James Ramsay, in the war of the Revolution, has been examined and filed under the Act of June 7 1832. Your father having died before the passage of said act and leaving no widow, there is no claim for a pension. The case is therefore, rejected.


James Ramsay Esq
Clarksville
Ga
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Georgia Habersham
August 58
Sir
I wrote to you (I think in August 57) and received for Answer that no law was pass in 57 that would be to my Advantage respecting my claim for my fathers services in the revolutionary war. I would not wish to dictate to any set of men in office but certain it is that many have been paid and I cannot understand why not all who apply provided their claims are well authenticated.
If there is anything more required of me which I have not done please let me know it and if it possible I will do it for I well know that I am as justly entitled to it as I am to the air that I breathe.
I am respectfully Yours &c
James Ramsay

George C. Whiting
Commissioner

P.S. Please direct to Duane PO, Habersham
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[sideways] 26 July

(6)
Pens. Office
July 26, 1854.
Sir:
The Secretary of the Interior has considered your appeal in the case of James Ramsey dd. under the Act of June 7, 1832, and the 2d Section of the Act of July 4, 1836, and I am directed to inform you that he has affirmed the decision of this office.
If, however, James Ramsey, the son of the party on behalf of whom the claim is set up, will file evidence that his father served at least six months, in the manner indicated in the Regulations made the Act of June 7, 1832 herewith submitted (and it may be well to state in advance that he is in no way identified with either of the certificates from the Comptroller of South Carolina) and produce the certificate of a Court
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& Record showing that his parents, respecting, died and the names and ages of their children now being, the case will be opened. If, however, a pension should be allowed, it would only be payable for the 4th of March 1831 to the 20th of February 1832, when James Ramsey, Senior, died.
I have &c


Hon J. S. Hillyer
House of Reps.
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Jefferson Ga.
Nov. 30th 1854
Sir,
Mr James Ramsey Junr. has shown me your letter of July 26th, in which after adverting to some other things you state "and produce the certificate of a Court of Record shewing when the parents respectively died and the names and ages of their children now living, the case will be reopened." James Ramsey Junr. requests me to write you and to say this testimony has been supplied by the affidavit of James A. Ramsey, of Madison County Ills., grand son of the Soldier, and at whose father's house the Soldier died. Your last letter bears date some months subsequent to the sending on of this affidavit, and creates a presumption in the mind of Mr Ramsey that you have overlooked it. He wishes if you please to hear from you in inference to it and that you write
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him at Clarksville Georgia this I hope you will do, as Mr. Ramsey has gone home and relys
on me to write for him.
Most Respectfully
Your obt servt.
John J. McCulloch


Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.
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252
Pension Office
Jany 14 1854
Sir
James Ramsay who was paid for his services by South Carolina, made out his account against the State and signed his name to the receipt for his indents. A facsimile of his signature to said receipt must be obtained from the Comptroller of S.C. and his name must also be forwarded to the Office, as it appears upon some original papers in your possession or in the possession of the some of his family, that the signatures may be compared, as evidence of identity. The date of his death and the names of his children now living must be proved before a court and
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forwarded to this office.

James Ramsay Esq
Clarksville Ga

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James Ramsay
Jany 14/54
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Jas. Ramsey
Jan. 6/55.
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68
Pension Office
Jany 6 1855
Sir
I regret that it is impossible for me to comply with your request and admit the claim of James Ramsay decd. I need not again go over the ground so often explored with you, the evidence in the papers does not justify an allowance, for the reasons, heretofore explained to you. It is useless to attempt the farther privation of the claim unless you can comply with the requirements of the Office.

June 7 1832 Ga

James Ramsay Esq
Clarksville Ga
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James Ramsey
Nov 17/53
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228
Pension Office
Nov 17. 1853
Sir
In answer to your letter of 4th inst. you are informed that the fact that your father's death took place after March 1831 was overlooked in the examination of the claim for arrears of his pension money.
Proof that there is no widow surviving him has been omitted. Your mention of the fact in your declaration is not competent proof.
You have omitted to state under what officers or at what time your father served. His name not being found on the continental rolls of S.C. in this office you are required to furnish proof of his service. The production of the three original indents mentioned in your declaration, accompanied by proof that they were in your father possession will be received as evidence. Your papers appear to be regular.

James Ramsey Esq
Clarksville Ga.
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Georgia Habersham August 1857
Geo Whiting Commissioner of Pensions
Sir I have been applying to your predecessors in office for what I consider myself justly entitled to for my Fathers services in the revolutionary war but finding so many different men filling the same office I find it difficult to come to a final Issue. There is many papers which no doubt you can find in your office from different parts which will show you what I am entitled to but I will give you the outlines of which I wish you to attend to. My Father James Ramsey lived in York County S.C. many years boath before and after the revolution and finally moved to the State of Illinois and died there. A true and legal account of which you will find in your office. I James Ramsey lived with my father James Ramsey untill I was 25 years of age and have often heard him say that he served different tours of service but not thinking it would be of any service to me I did not charge my memory with it but so it is (if I mistake not) Mr. Arthur or some one in office SC S Carolina sent coppys of four Indents which you have in your office. Messrs. Cobb and Hilliar told me there would be some new arrangements made in the last adjourned session respecting mine and similar cases.
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It is said the pension bill is laid over untill the next session but whether the revolutionary or the 1812 or boath I know not please be so good as to inform me as I am interested in boath likewise any thing that you know would be to my interest and in my power to do. Your compliance with my request will be highly esteemed by yours &c
James Ramsey
P.S. please answer me at Clarksville as soon as you have examined the papers I have alluded to
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James Ramsey
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Book R.
No 621
Issued 16 June 1785 to Capt. James Ramsay for fifty six pounds nineteen Shillings & five pence sterling for Sundries for couthmental & militia pr. part of account audited
Principal L 56.19.5 ½
Annal Interest 2.18.7
No 13.
State of South Carolina
1780 22 June
To Capt James Ramsey
To 220 days a 20/pr. day L 250.0.0
To 52 days " 2/ " " 156.0.0
To one mare lost in service appraised to 55.0.0
To 4 1/4 Bushels corn 15/ 3.11.3
L 2.20 less To 180 lbs Beef u 6 16.0.0
[=] L 460.11.3
2.10.0
currency L 458.1.3
Sterling L 65.8.9
Exd
M.G
J. McSly
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Compt. Genl's. Office
Columbia 17 Decr. 1853
I hereby certify the foregoing to be a true Copy from Indent Book R page 621. & also of the account upon which said Indent was issued.
Given under my hand
Wm. F. Arthur
For Compt. Genl.
{no seal of office}
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James Ramsey
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Book R.
No 620
Issued 16 June 1783 to Mr James Ramsay for Sixty pounds fifteen shillings & Six pence Sterling for sundries for militia & Continentals pr. part of account audited
Principal L 60.15.6
Annal Interest 4.4.1
No 13.

State of South Carolina
To James Ramsey for actual service in Camp & losses sustained by the enemy in service under the command of Genl Sumpter in Dollars
To actual service from the first of June 1780 to the Seventeenth of Sept. one hundred & nine days at 20 / pr day Sixty Seven dollars Horseman 2/6 more 0.6.7
To one tour of Duty at Fergusons defeat from the 20th Sept. to 25
Octo 1780 thirty five days 20/ pr day Horseman 12/6 more 0.1.5
To one Brown Bay Horse branded J.R. on the sholder & thigh rated at $73¾ 212 more 73 3/4
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To one tour of Duty from first of Novem. 1780 to the first of Jany. 1781 at Slalhous plantation & from thence to the fishdam ford sixty one days at 20/ pr day thirty seven dollars 1/2 1/2 more 37 1/2
To one tour from the 4th July until the 8th August thirty five days & at 20 / pr day 21 Dollars & 1/2 1/2 more 21 1/2
To one tour from the 13 July to the 22d Aug forty days a 20 / pr day twenty four Dollars 3/4 4/4 less 24 3/4
To one tour of duty a nights Bluff from the first March 1781 to the 21st inclusive 21 days a 20 / pr day thirteen Dollars 2/6 less 13
Total in Dollars 240. 3/4
1779 20 May
To four hundred & eight lb of flour 10
& two hundred & twenty five lb of butter 28 1/8
& twenty five lb of tallow for the horse of the public by House Price 3 1/8
Red by Chas Chitty
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To four hundred & forty eight lb of Butter 56
& fifty five lbs of Tallow, one hundred & forty one lbs of Butter for the rise of the public 6 7/8 17 5/8
Recd. By Chas Chittey

To two bushels & three pecks of wheat for the rise of Genl Sumpter a 9 3/4 dollars 12 1/2
Recd. by Saml. Matson Court.
Add balance of lessors 13.17.10
Currency L 623.5.4
Sterling L 89.0.9

Recd. 16 June 1785 full satisfaction for the within in an Indent No 620 R.
James Ramsey
L 89.0.9 Sterling
2 of the within certificate signed Chas Chitty who acted under Mr. Nabushire whose accounts are settled.
Excd.
J W. G.
J McSly
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Compt. Genl's. Office
Columbia 17 Decr. 1853
I hereby certify the foregoing to be a true Copy from Indent Book R page 621. & also of the account upon which said Indent was issued.
Given under my hand
Wm. F. Arthur
For Compt. Genl.
{no seal of office}
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James Ramsey
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Lib X
No. 1757
Issued the first day of March 1786 to Mr. James Ramsay for twenty eight pounds fixe shillings and three pence Sterling being a balance of his account of Sundries for militia & continental vise as pass by the commissioners
Principal L 28.5.3.
Interest L 1.19.6.

Compt. Genl's. Office
Columbia 17 Decr. 1853
I hereby certify the foregoing to be a true Copy from Indent Book X page 1757
Given under my hand
Wm. F. Arthur
For Compt. Genl.
{no seal of office}
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James Ramsey
No 2.
Comptroller Cert
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Lib V.
No. 655
Issued 13 Sept. 1785 to James Ramsey for two pounds ten shillings for duty per account from the commissioner
Principal L 2.10.0
Annal Interest 0.3.3

Waxaw 7 July 1784
State of South Carolina
To James Ramsay
1781 22 Octo
To 35 Days duty in the foot in Col Marshels Regiment under Thos. Wilson Lieut at [illegible] 10/ pr day
old currency L 17.10.0
Stg. 2.10.0

So Carolina
C. District
Personally appeared James Ramsey and made oath that the above account is just & true he has never received any part of pay or satisfaction for the same. Sworn to before me 23 August 1784
Robert Montgomery J.P.
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Compt. Genl's. Office
Columbia 17 Decr. 1853
I hereby certify the foregoing to be a true Copy from Indent Book R page 653 & also of the account upon which said Indent was issued.
Given under my hand
Wm. F. Arthur
For Compt. Genl.
{no seal of office}
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No 6
Sept 27/53
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Clarksville Georgia
September 27 1853
Dear Sir
I herewith send my declaration claiming the Pension due my father at his death, which you will hold over for further proof and if this declaration should need any amendments or supplimenting I would thank you to notify me forthwith - I also send an authenticated showing of the death from the death of my father from the county court of the County of Madison in the state of Illinois
Answer me at Clarksville Georgia
Respectfully
James Ramsey

Hon L. P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
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Georgia
Habersham County.
Personally came this day, James Ramsay and after being first duly sworn according to law saith on oath that his mother died about twelve years before his father according to the information he has received from his nephew, J. A. Ramsay and consequently his father died without any widow surviving him. Affiant further says that he does not recollect ever to have heard his father name the officers under whom and with whom he served and that the three Indents alluded to in his declaration he does not know were all the papers of that kind he had, but mentioned that number because he does not remember seeing any more and says that he is unable to produce them now from the fact that he remembers hearing his father say that he traded them off and that he said he traded one in Charleston South Carolina at seventy five cents in the dollar. Affiant also further says that he makes this affidavit for the purpose of explaining his declaration. Sworn to and subscribed before me this 15th day of December 1853, and I certify that the above named affiant may be relied on for truth and honesty and that I am not interested in the result of this case nor concerned in its prosecution.
James Ramsey
William C. Brown J.P.

Georgia
Habersham County.
Personally came this day David S. Oliver & William Jones and after being first duly sworn according to law, saith on oath that affiant-- James Ramsay above named. Stands reputed in our community as being the son of James Ramsay late of Illinois who is reputed to have served in the war of the revolution in South Carolina. Sworn to and subscribed before me this 15th day of December 1853 and I certify that the above named affiants who testify to the identity of James Ramsay are residents of said County & State and are creditable witness & that I am not interested in this case nor concerned in its prosecution.
David S. Oliver
William Jones
William C. Brown J.P.
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State of Georgia
Habersham County
I Philip Martin Clerk of the Superior Court of said County, do hereby certify that William C. Brown before whom the foregoing affidavits were executed is and was at the date of the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly commissioned and qualified and that the name thereto subscribed is his genuine signature, and that I am not interested in the result of this case nor concerned in its prosecution. In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 16th day of December 1853.
Philip Martin Clerk S.C.

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No. 8
Dec 16/53
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No 4
Proofs of decease identity & other things relating to
James Ramsay
from Madison County Court, State of Illinois
June 22/53
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At a Term of the County Court of the County of Madison and State of Illinois begun and holden at the Court House in Edwardsville in said County on the Third Monday in June AD 1853, being the 20th day thereof, and continued from day to day, Present Hon H K Eaton County Judge & John A Prickett Clerk - Wednesday June 22d 1853, Court met pursuant to adjournment present, same as above. And now at this day comes James A Ramsay and prays that proof may now be received by the Court, relating to the decease of his Grandfather the late James Ramsay Ordered accordingly. Whereupon the testimony of said James A Ramsay, a known by the Court to be a credible witness, is taken, from which, and other testimony found in the files and records of this Court, it appears to the satisfaction of this Court, that James Ramsay was a soldier in the Revolutionary war, that after said war he resided many years in York District, State of South Carolina
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until about the fall of 1816, when he removed to the then Territory of Illinois, County of Madison - that he had 10 children to wit John, Thomas James, Polly, Catharine, William, Robert, Isabella, George & Rachel, that said James Ramsay (Senior) departed this life in said Madison County State of Illinois on the 20th day of February AD 1832 - that of his said 10 children, but two are now living namely James Ramsay his third son, who resides in Habersham County, State of Georgia, and Robert Ramsay, who resides in Giles County State of Tennessee - that said James Ramsay made his last Will & Testament which was probated & made of record in said Madison County Illinois on the 12th day of March AD 1832 - that said James was buried in said Madison County Illinois, also, that said James Ramsay (Senior) had a claim for services in said War, in said State of Georgia, having frequently mentioned the same to the Witness aforesaid.
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It is therefore Ordered by the Court that the Clerk hereof certify to the foregoing facts & proofs over the seal of this Court.
H K Eaton Co Judge

State of Illinois
Madison County
 I John A Prickett Clerk of the County Court of said County, do certify that the foregoing is a true statement of the proceedings relative to the matters & things therein set forth, in our said County Court, on the day of date hereof, Witness my hand and seal of said Court at office Edwardsville, Said County & State, this 22d day of June AD 1853.
John A Prickett, Clk
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No. 7
Nov 4/53
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Clarksville Georgia Nov. 4, 1853
Sir
In reply to yours of the 17th ult. Notifying me that I am not entitled to any thing in right of my father James Ramsey as a Revolutionary soldier. I would just say to you that I duly examined into my right in this case before I made the application and I think according to Act of July 4th 1836 Section 2-4 & 5th I am certainly entitled to what would have been due him although he died between the 4th of March 1831 and the passage of the Act of June 7th 1832. It may be that I have not made my declaration under the proper Act but If I have not I would thank you of the proper Instructions for my guidance in the matter
Answer me in Clarksville Georgia
Respectfully Yours &c
James Ramsey

Hon L. P. Waldo
Comr. of Pensions
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No 8.
Dec 17/53
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Clarksville Georgia
December 17th 1853
Dear Sir
I herewith send an affidavit as near in compliance with your letter of the 17th ult as I am able to do and I also send the letters receivd. from my Nephew in relation to my claim &C and I think they will give satisfaction to the department statating that my father died with a widow surviving him. I do not think that father was attached to the continental line but to the Militia and I have sent to the comptroller Gen. of South Carolina for Information if to be found on record in his office. All that I ask of the department in regard to my claim is if they are satisfied from the general showing made, that they allow it without calling upon me to comply with every little technichality belonging to the office after they become satisfied that I am entitled & I want nothing only my just dues and I hope they will be allowed I since writing the above I have received A certificate from the Comptroller Genl. stating the services of my father which I think will give full satisfaction
Respectfully Yours &c
James Ramsey

Hon L. P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
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James Ramsay
Ga sus 1832

[sideways writing]
Allandale Geo
Dec. 22nd
paid 3
L. P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions D.C.
Washington D.C.
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Georgia Habersham
Mr Waldo I receivd. your letter of December the 7th 1854
You still leave my yoke heavier than I am able to bear. I know no better way for me to do than refer you to the old records as I know not nor any person now living how long he serd. I have wrote to different states where men had lived who were raised boys with me and find they are all dead and if they had been living they nor me to help them could not prove how long he served. Far best from me to declate to your honours but of the publick records will not prove his services in full it is not in my power to do it
The Indents which you have appears to me sufficient proof that he has served twice six months-I hope you will lay all further cerimonies aside and send me on his full pay as new years gift
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I wish to know whether or not Mr. McCullick of Jackson County has wrote to you concerning my case
I am Yours Respectfy
James Ramsey
P.S. As there is no one of my name contending with me as to the pay of Capt. Ramsey I feel myself entitled to it; it likewise appears to be the opinion of Mr. Arthur of S.C. Columbia whoes Papers I have in my possession
Please answer me at Clarksvill as soon as possible
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Jas. Ramsey
Aug 13
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Pension Office, August 13. 1858
Sir
In reply to your letter of the 5th instant, I have to state that the claim asserted by you for pension in virtue of the alleged services of James Ramsey deceased in the war of the revolution, was disallowed for reasons of which you have frequently been informed. Since the date of my last letter, however, the Department has decided, upon advice of the Attorney General, that claims of this kind cannot be established and recovered by the children of revolutionary soldiers at all.  Such claims die with the soldier.
being respy


James Ramsey Esq
Duane Post office,
Habersham, Georgia
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San Bernardino City Schools
SAN BERNARDINO
CALIFORNIA

[first column of data]
OFFICE OF SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
18 AND E STREETS
PHONE 441-51
GEORGE R. MOMYER
PRINCIPAL
EDWARD C. CLINE
VICE-PRINCIPAL
DEAN OF BOYS
ALVERDA E. HERTZLER
DEAN OF GIRLS

[second column of data]
BOARD OF EDUCATION
V. M. PINKLEY, PRESIDENT
MRS. WILMONT T. SMITH
MRS. T. R. CARLISLE
BEN HARRISON
DR. ALBERT EARLE HANCOCK
J. C. BOYD
D. H. RODDICK
LEWIS E. ADAMS
SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS
C. V. KELTY
BUSINESS AGENT

969 Marshall Boulevard,
December12, 1933

The Director of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Dear sir:
Major General James F McKinley has referred me to you as one who might be able to give me some information about a soldier in the Revolutionary war by the name of Ramsay, probably James Ramsay, for he had a son by that name. He seems to have been a quartermaster, or possibly a bugler, as we have a bugle with his name on it. He enlisted from a Southern state, probably one of the Carolinas. His parents lived in Georgia. He had a daughter who was born Jan. 15, 1803 whose name was Anna and who married a man named James Keeney. Any information you can get for me concerning this soldier James Ramsay will be very much appreciated.
Yours very truly,
Geo R Momyer
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RECEIVED DEC 18 1933 MAIL SUB-DIV. VETS. ADM. READER #66