Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 4585, for William Lyons, Pennsylvania
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Penn
Penn Sea Service
Lyons William
S.4585
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See letters June 1837
to G Dullay
11530   13042
Ohio Pittsburg Agnicy
Wm Lyon
of Morgan in the State of Ohio who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Scott of the Regt commanded by Crawford in the Penna Militia line for one year eight months
William Lyons
Records completed Apr 25, 1904
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Inscribed on Roll of Ohio at the rate of 66 dollars and 66 cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831
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certificate of Pension issued the 4th day of May 1833 and Sent to Isaac Parrish 
Cambridge Ohio
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Arrears to the 4th of Mar 1833
Semi-anl allowance ending 4th Sept 33 
$133.32
     33.33
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$166.65  
Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by Geo B. Whiting Cler, Book 6 Vol 8 Page 118
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This is to certify that William Lyons is our neighbor of this two years last Spring and from war that he received he is not eligible to do half work in farming given under our hand this 5th Day of December 1792
(Unreadable Signatures)
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March 17, 1939
BAJ/CC
William Lyons
s.4585
Mr. Elmer Sayre Clark
730 North Main Street
Pontiac, Illinois
He was born on this date the rec. also of Lewis Jones
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of William Lyons who served in Captain Fishbourne's company, Fourth Pennsylvania Continental Line, length of service more than three years. You state further that he was of Butler County, Pennsylvania removed to Harrison county, Ohio and died in Morgan County, Ohio.
The record has been found of William Lyons of Pennsylvania who resided later in Harrison and Morgan Counties, Ohio. This William Lyons, however, did not state that he rendered the service cited by you. His record follows as found in pension claim s.4585, based upon his service in the Revolutioonary War.
William Lyons was born November 14, 1755, in the Parish of Blaharene, County of Derry, Ireland. Names of his parents are not shown. 
While a residen to Lescock Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, William Lyons enlisted in August 1776, served two months as private in Captain John Scott's company, c=Colonel James Crawford's Pennsylvania Regiment and was in a skirmish at Cocklestown on Staten island. Immediately after, he enlisted, served six months as private in Captain William Scott's company, Colonel Klotz' Pennsylvania Regiment and was a the taking of Fort Washington where he was wounded in the right thigh by a Musket ball which as late as 1832 had not been removed. in 1777, during a temporary residence in West Fallowfield, Chester County, Pennsylvania, he enlisted and served two months as private in Captain Gibbs' company, Colonel John Hannum's Pennsylvania
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This is to certify that the (unreadable) of this William Lyon hath lived in this congregation several years and Margarew his wife from her infancy, are in full communion with us behaving themselves as Christians, and left us sometime since clear of any ground of church (unreadable) know to us, given in CJogs manor March 1786 By
Wm E Timley NDM
with consent of G. Session
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Wm. Lyons 
20141
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Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7th A.D. 1832
The State of Ohio
Morgan County
On this eighteen day of July in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and Thirty Two. Personally appeared in Open Court before the Court of Common Pleas for said County in the Eighth Circuit of the State of this now sitting William Lyons a resident of Ohio Township of said Morgan County and State of Ohio aged Seventy five years who being duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th A.D. 1832 
That he enlisted the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated, that is the day in August in the year of our Lord one thousand three hundred and Seventy six, he the said William Lyons entered the Regiment of Pennsylvania Militia, Commanded by Colonel James Crawford and Lieutenent William Smith served Lieutentan John Underwood and Ensign William Gwinn in Lacrock Township Lancaster County in the State of Pennsylvania, for the time of two months as drafted Militia when from whence them marched to Philadelphia, from thence to Pesthamboy , from Pesthanmboy to Bergen at Bergin the Tour of two months expired and He volunteered for six months into a company Commanded by Captain William Scott first Lieutenant James Armer, Sean Lieutenant.
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James Houghton, Ensign James Woods in the Second Battalion of the Lancaster County flyin Camp Commanded by colonel Clotis Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Morrow, Major John Boyle From Bergen the regiment marched to Pautus Hook under the (unreadable words) on the day that the English took New York in the evening of the same day the Regiment returned to Bergen from thence to Prothamboy where Colonel Clotts had remained from Phurthamboy a part of the Regiment was ordered to Staten Island to attach a place called Cockles Town, including the Said William Lyons in taking the Tour,  a smart Shermish ensued in which He was engaged and they took Hassions Prisoner the first that had been Captured by the American From Penthamboy the Regiment marched to Fort Les where it remained until the month of November. In November one hundred and thirty seven men were required of Colonel Clotts Regiment to go to Fort Washington on York Island the number was raised by volunteers of which the said William Lyons was one. For which place they marched commanded by Lieutenant Col Thomas Morrow to Fort Washington and on either the sixteenth or Seventeenth of  November a battle was fought in which the said William Lyons received a Musket ball in his right thigh, Which remains to his thigh at the present time. He was then taken back to Fort Lee to the Hospital where he remained five or six day from there he was removed ot the Hospital at Noristown in the State of New Jersey from there to the Hospital at Bethlehem in the date of Pennsylvania where he was dismissed about the  latter part of January next morning, by John Hughston Surgeon this time for which he had volunteered having nearly
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find but which discharge has been lost or destroyed Being unable to labor as formerly because the wound he had in the received in the year seventeen hundred and seventy seven he went to Fort Follon field in Chester County Pennsylvania He served the Shoemaking business when he was drafted and served another tour of two months in a Company of Malitia Commanded by Colonel John Hammond and Major Hartman was dismissed at Billingsport In September of the year seventeen  hundred and seventy nine He volunteered in Philadelphia and went on board the ship Flora of Twenty guns Commanded by Captain Down and Sailing master ramage from thence the sailed for the North Indies and volunteered and returned to Philadelphia in July Seventeen Hundred and Eighty after a voyage of almost ten months where he was dismissed He has no documentary evidence to produce and know of no person whose Testimony he can prove that can Testify to his service. He hereby relinquishes any claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the Agency or any State
Examined by the Court
Then and in what year were you born? In the Parish of Blackaran in the County of Derry Ireland on the one thousand seven hundred  and fifty five 
Can you any record of your age? No, I brought my Fathers Bible in which my name and birth were recorded from Ireland to this County but from lapse of time it has been lost or destroyed 
Where were you living when called into service? In Lacroch Township
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Lancaster County in the State of Pennsylvania 
Where have you lived since the Revolutionary War?
After I returned from the voyage at war I went to reside in West Fattonfield Township West Chester County, Pennsylvania where I resided about four years From thence I removed to Cishoquillis valley in Cumberland now Mifflin county when I resided seven years, From Thence I removed to  Spencer Crick in Huntington County where I resided four years. From thence I removed to Ligonier valley, Westmoreland County where I remained four years from thence I removed to Venango County near Franklin where I remained about eight years. From thence I removed to Istancreek Township Jeffereson in the State and this where I remained three years . From thence I removed to Green Township Harrison County where I remained five years. From thence I removed to Dorman Township Tuscarawas County where I remained fourteen years. From thence I removed to my present residence.
Where do you now live? In Olive Township, Morgan County and State of Ohio near the village of Sharon 
How were you called into service? Were you drafted did you volunteer or were you a Substitute? I was enacted amongst the Militia and was drafted both tours of two months that I served. The time of six months I volunteered and the voyage made at sea, I volunteered to go on board 
Can you state the names of some of the regular officers who were with the Troops where you served: Jacob Continental and militia regiment as you recollect and the  general circumstances of your Service?
Yes. The Commander at Fort Washington the time I was wounded Col Robert M Mclaugh General Green Commanded at Fort Lee. There was Stationed at Fort Lee Two Regiments: of what were called Forge (unreadable) Same was Regulars but the officers names I know not
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Recollect and also our Regiment of Virginia Regulars I believe called the Third Regiment of Riflement cCommanded by Colonel Reed. I cannot recollect any Patriach circumstances other than I have stated each whilst at Fort Lee the men of our Regiment were not permitted to associate with the Regulars stationed there nor any to past through their part of the encampment which may account for my such knowing more about the Regiment and their Officers. I recollect that when I was first volunteered our Regiment marched through the Eastern part of Pennsylvania into Stanton Trenton Princeton and Brunswich to Prothamboy whilst at Loss touched at Lt Austatic  Port Jamica The Island Haiti now Hissauole The Ohry Islands The Second Tour on Land only moved from Chester in Pennsylvania to Billingsport in New Jersey where we were stationed both a Battalion of Malitia from Rioche County one Regiment of malitia from Philadelphia the officers name I do not recollect 
Did you ever become a discharge from the Service? Never in writing. It was not the practice when the time of this nears this required we were dismissed and stationed home we were able to be drafted upon another Town in a short time. 
I have mentioned the  discharged of John Hughston I gave of the hospital which I received in writing but which has been lost or destroyed as aforesaid. 
9. State the names of Persons to whom you are known in you Present neighborhoods and who can testify to your character for truth and veracity and their belief of your service as a Soldier of the Revolution. I give the names of Dr David McGary associate Judge of this  Court the Reverend Robert Rutheford and James Archibold John Marquis John Lyons Lewis and Samuel Long.
Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year first above written Attest B Johnson Clerk William Lyons
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We Robert Rutherford residing in the Town of Sharon in Olive Township of Morgan county in the State of Ohio and John Lyons residing in the same Township and neighborhood hereby certify that we are well acquainted with William Lyons, he has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be Seventy five years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood that he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we all are in that opinion Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid Robert Rutherford John Lyons
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion has after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogations prescribed by the War department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states and the Court further certified that it appears to them that Robert Rutherford  who has signed the proceeding Certificate is a Regular resident because minister is the (unreadable) in the Presbyterian Church in the said Town of Sharon in their Township aforesaid And that John Lyon who also signed the same is a resident in the said Township of Olive in said Morgan County and is a credible person and that their statement is written to credit 
Jhi Zoin  President Judge: David Mcgary
Joseph B. Linn Associates
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The State of Ohio
Morgan County
I Penley B. Johnson, clerk of the court of Common Pleas within and for the said County of Morgan in the State of Ohio, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of William Lyons for a pension.In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of office, this 18th day of July A.D. 1832
P.B. Johnson Clerk

Declaration of William Lyons a Revolutionary Militia
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May 18, 1939
BA-J/CC
William Lyons
S.4585
Miss Mary McCarrel
901 N. First Street
Dennison, Ohio

Dear Madam:
Further reference is made to your letter in which you request the revolutionary War record of William Lyons, who was born and reared in Ireland, immigrated to Pennsylvania. 
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in Pension claim S.4585, based upon service of William Lyons in the Revolutionary War.
William Lyons was born November 15, 1755, in the Parish of Blaharane County of Derry, Ireland. Names of his parents are not shown.
While a resident of Leacock Township, Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, William Lyons enlisted in August 1776, served two months as private in Captain John Scott's company, Colonel James Crawford's Pennsylvania Regiment and was in a skirmish at Cocklestown on Staten Island. Immediately after, he enlisted, served six months as private in Captain William Scott's company, Colonel Klotz' Pennsylvania Regiment and was a at the taking of Fort Washington where he was wounded in the right thigh by a Musket ball which as late as 1832, had not been removed. in 1777, during a temporary residence in West Fallowfield, Chester County, Pennsylvania, he enlisted and served two months as a private in Captain Gibbs' company, Colonel John Hanum's Pennsylvania Regiment. Sometime in September 1779, he volunteered in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on board the ship "flora", Captain Down, and served until July 1780 when he was discharged.  After he returned from the voyage he lived, four years in West Fallowfield Township, Chester County, Pennsylvania.
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seven years in Kishacoquillas Valley, Cumberland (later Mifflin Ok On orig) County, Pennsylvania; four years at Spence Creek, Huntingdon county, Pennsylvania; four years in Ligoneier Valley, Westmoreland Pennsylvania; three years at Island Creek, Jeffereson County, Ohio; five years Green Township Harrison County, Ohio; four years in Dorman Township, Tuscarawas County, Ohio and then served to Olive Township Morgan county, Ohio.
William Lyons was allowed pension on his application executed July  18, 1832, while a resident of Olive Township, Morgan county, Ohio. In 1766, soldier's wife, Margaret, was living her maiden name not given. In 1832, one John Lyons was living in Olive Township, Morgan county, Ohio. Relationship to the soldier not stated. There are no further family data on file. In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the ate of death of William Lyons, you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following date:
William Lyon  as he was pensioned.
Certificate #13042
Issued May 4, 1833
Ra to $66.66 per annum
Commended March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Ohio (Pittsburgh) Agency
Very truly yours
A.D. Hiller
Executive Assistant  to the Administrator.
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regiment. Sometime in September 1779, he volunteered in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on board the ship "Flora", Captain Down, and served until July 1780, when he was discharged.
After he returned from the voyage he lived, four years in West Fallowfield Township, Chester County, Pennsylvania; seven years in Kishaoquillas Valley Cumberland (now Mifflin) county Pennsylvania: four years at Spence Creek, Huntingdon county, Pennsylvani: four years in Ligonier Valley, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania; Hight years near Franklin, Venango county, Pennsylvania; three years at Island Creek, Jefferson County, Ohip; five years Green Township, Harrison County, Ohio; four years in Dorman Township, Tuscarawas county, Ohio and then moved to Olive Township, Morgan County, Ohio.
William Lyons was allowed pension on his application executed July 18, 1832, whild a resident of Olive Township, Morgan county, Ohio. In 1766, soldier's wife, Margaret, was living, her maiden name not given. in 1832 one John Lyons was living in Olive Township, Morgan County, Ohio. Relationship to the soldier not state. There are no further family data on file. 
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of William Lyons, you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following:
William Lyon, as he was pensioned
Certificate #13042
Issued May 4, 1833
Rate $66.66 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831 
Act of June 7, 1832
Ohio (Pittsburgh) Agency
Very truly yours
A.D. Hiller 
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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T.W. Horton
Milford Center, ohio
Sir:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 4585 it appears that William Lyons was born November 15, 1755 in the Parish of Blaharance, County of Derry, Ireland.
While a resident of Leacock Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania he enlisted in August 1776, served two months as a private in Captain John Scott's Company. Colonel James Crawford's Pennsylvania Regiment and was in a skirmish at Cocklestown on Staten Island.
Immediately after, he enlisted, served six months he said he served for 6 months when, according is his (unreadable words) must have been about ( Oct 1776 and was in hospital after this wound until Jan 1777 and dismissed by Surgery this time of (unreadable) nearly up. This is only about 4 or 5 months. He was pensioned for 6 mos so I used it. as a private in Captain William Scott's company, Colonel Klotz' Pennsylvania Regiment and was at the taking of Fort Washington where he was wounded in the right thigh by a Musket ball which as late as 1832 had not been removed. in 1877, during a temporary residence in West Fallowfield, Chester County, Pennsylvania, he enlisted and served two months as a private in Captain Gibbs' Company,  Coi
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onel John Hannum's Pennnsylvania Regiment.
in September 1779 he volunteered in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on board the ship "Flora", Captain Down, and served until July 1780 when he was discharged. he was allowed pension on his application executed July 18, 1832 while a resident of Olive Township, Morgan county, Ohio. In 1786 soldier's wife Margaret was living her maiden name not given, and there is no further data on file as to his family. The above noted is the only soldier by that name of Ohio, found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau.
Respectfully, Wilder s. Metcalf
Commissioner
Date of death not no A.B.
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REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION 3-525
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR&lt;
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
Washington, D.C. Jan 12, 1922
in reply to your request of  ......received......for a statement of the military history of a Wm Lyons a soldier of the Revolutionary War, you will find below the desired information as contained in his application for pension on file in this Bureau
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DATES OF ENLISTMENT FR APPOINTMENT 
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Aug 1776
immediately after
1777
Sept 1779
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LENGTH OF SERVICE
2 mos
6 mos
2 mos 
10mos
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RANK
Pvt
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OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED
Captain                Colonel   
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JM. Scott             Jas Crawford
Wm Scott             Klotz
Gibbs                    Jno Hannum
under lieut Down on ship "Flora" from Phila
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STATE
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Pa.
battles engaged in Ft Washington where wounded in thightbullet never extracted
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Lacod. Two Lancaster Co, Pa
Date of application for pension, July 18, 1832 al
Residence at date of application, Olive Twp, Morgan co, Ohio
Age at date of application, B Nov 15, 1788 in Parish of Blahinan, Co of Derry, ireland
Remarks: His wife Margaret is referred no maiden name not stated no fir fam data Sol lived 5 years in Green Twp Harrison Co Ohio
Note did not put "Forgo Manox as res of info or Act he does not given at as a residence could no locate it.
Respectfully, Commissioner
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Mary McCarroll
901 First St.
Dennison, Ohio
May 7, 1939
Veterans Administration
G.G. Hiller
Executive Assistant to the Administration
(SEAL-Received May 12, 1939)

Dear Sir:
In reply to your letter of April 24, concerning the record of William Lyons, am sorry to say that I am unable to give you the desired information . The only definite thing that I am sure of is that he was the father of Thomas Lyons. William Lyons was born and reared in Ireland, immigrated to Pennsylvania, whilst from that state and fought in thi Revolutionary War; receiving a hip wound. the remaining years of his life were spent in Morgan County, this I regret that I do not have the dates on his birth and death on the widows name. I do appreciate very much your help in the matter and thank you kindly for your services.
Yours very truly, 
Mary Mc Carroll
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Misc April 24 1939
Miss Mary McCarrol               RA-J/CC
901 N. First Street
Dennison, Ohio

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of William Lyons. 
In order to identify the record of the particular William Lyons in whom you are interested please furnish as much as possible of the following data in regard to him:  approximate date of birth and earth, place of residence at enlistment and after service and given name of wife or widow.
Very truly yours
A.D. Hiller,
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.
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THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES    Divison of
Form k-8                                    Reference
               REFERRAL SLIP
                                Date 2/17/39
Inquiry From: Miss Mary McCarroll
901 N first Street
Dennison, Ohio
Dated: 2/14/39
Subject: Information concerning William Lyon
Respectfully referred to:
Revolution and War of 1812 Section 
Veteran's Administration
Washington, D.C.
PM. Hauser
Chief Divison of Reference
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February 17, 1939
Miss Mary McCarroll
901 N First Street
Dennison, Ohio

My dear Miss McCarroll:
Your letter of February 15, concerning William Lyons, has been received.
If William Lyons received a pension, it is possible that his papers may mention his son. We are therefore referring your letter to the Veteran's Administration, Revolution and War of 1812 section
Very truly yours,
P.M. Hamer, Chief
EBD:rt
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Routed to P.M. Hamer Feb 16 1939
Feb 18, 1939
Mary McCarroll
901 N. First St
Dennison, Ohio

Mr P.M. Hamer, Chief Divison of Reference 
The National Archives, 
Washington. D.C.
Dear Sir:
Am interested in knowing of William Lyons, who served in the Revolutionary War had a son James. Would this fact appear on your records?
Thanking you very much for any information you may be able to give me in this matter I am,
Yours very truly
Mary McCarroll
One from N.J. and one from Pa. which?
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ELMER SAYRE CLARK
730 North Main Street
PONTIAC, IILLINOIS\
February 4, 1939
U.S. Bureau of Pensions
Washington, d.C.
as I am interested in securing information about the wife and children of William Lyons, a soldier in the American Revolution, any information which your office may have will be appreciated. 
William Lyons, of Butler county, Pennsylvania, removed to Harrison County, Ohio; died in Morgan county, Ohio, He served in Capt. Fishbourne's Company, 4th Pennsylvania Continental Line. Length of service: 3 years, 2 months, 9 days. invalid, July 4, 1778. From Penn. Archives, 5th series, V.s, 9. 1057
Your interest in this matter will be great fully received. 
E. Sayne Clark
Fellow, Institute of American Genealogy.
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Fort dodge, Iowa, December 20, 1921

U.S. commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.,

Dear Sir:
I write to inquire if you have any record of a pension having been granted, on account of service in the Revolutionary war, to my ancestor, William Lyons (or Lyon) who lived in Pennsylvania and served with forces recruited in that State. The name is found in several places in the Pennsylvania Archives as a Revolutionary soldier, but I do no know at what place in the State his home was a t the time of the war; although I think that at a later period he lived in Washington county, Pennsylvania, and still later in Harrison county, Ohio.  Harrison county history states that he was sounded in the service and carried a British bullet in his body to the time of death.
The frequency with which the name appears in the Pennsylvania archives would indicate that there were more than one, perhaps several, of the name of William Lyons in the Revolutionary service, which makes the search perplexing. 
Any information which you may be able to give me will be received with thanks.
Very truly yours, Effa Lynn Strong
617 South 12th Street, Fort Dodge, iowa
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Union Rural Schools
C.W. Horton, Superintendent
Milford Center, Ohio
March 11, 1925
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

My Dear Sir:
couly you please tell me if a man named William Lyons drew a pension for Revolutionary War service from the State of Virginia? The man I have in mind moved to Ohio soon after Ohio was admitted into the Unio.
Very true yours,
T.W. Horton
(Seal: Pension Mar 15 1929 Office U. S. )
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1922 Jan 12 hist to Effa L Strong
1925 May 12 Hist to J W Harton 
1939 Mar 17 Hist to Ehren Sayre Clerk act
1939 May 18 Hist to Mary Mc Carroll

Rev War 4585
INVALID

File No 4585
William Lyon
Privt Rev War
Act: June 8 1832
Index: Vol. A Page 231
(Arrangement of 1870)
William Lyons, 
Records completed
Apr 25, 1904
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WAR DEPARTMENT
Pension Office,
April 1 1823

SIR:
I return her with the papers in support of the claim of the person whose name hereto annexed.
These papers are in several respects defective. Case is accompanied by a brief. The objections are contained in the negative answers in red ink, given to the questions.
Particular attention should be paid to the accompanying regulations and to the explanatory notes subjoined to the brief.
The extraordinary press of business in this office, arising from the great number of claims under the act of June 7, 1832, has hitherto prevented us from attending to the applications sent by you. The investigation of the cases presented under this law has been difficult and laborious, and notwithstanding the greatest exertions have been made by this Department, an earlier attention to your business has been found impracticable.
The brief has been prepared to meet all classes, and thus to save the excessive labor which would otherwise be imposed upon the office, and which would consume so much time as to render the delay two fold greater than it now is in the investigation of claims and writing letters. The case is considered correct in all respects except in relation to those questions to which a negative answers is affixed. No other alteration or addition will be required.  I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant, JL Edwards
Isaac Parish Esq
Cambridge Ohio
Name Wm Lyons
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Wm Lyons
The first year August 1776 2 mos
                             1777 6 mos
                     Sept 1779 10 mos  Private

Wm Lyon
Instructions
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Wm Lyons
The first Year August 1776 2 mo
1777 6 mos
Sept 1779 10 mos Private

Wm Lyon 
Instructions
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of William Lyons which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where ehte applicant resides? Yes
II Did the declarant make the declaration in t he county where he resides? Yes
III If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there enay reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes
V. Has mentioned with the precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to tenable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes
VI Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with he regulations? Yes
VII Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension that the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes
VIII Has the Court given their opinion? Yes
IX Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes
X Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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XI Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relatetive to his revolutionary service? Yes
XII If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII If the applicant has not documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? Yes
XIV If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the Magistrates who administered the oath certified that he she or they are persons of credibility?
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office?
XV Does it appear form any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI  Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No
XVII Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? Yes 
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                                EXPLANATORY NOTES
Queer V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amen his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace And A.B. who, being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less that the periods mentioned below and in the following grad: For    Year   months and    days, I served as a    For   months   and   days,   I served as a   , and for such service I claim a pension."
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held as the law directs the pension according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. 
QUERE XIV Proof of SService in a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The Magistrates who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI Mode of authenticating papers
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the  papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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Wm Lyons
2 Instructions
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which these answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of William Lyons which require further proof or explanation
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes
II Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes
III If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what tamount of pension he is entitled?? No
VI Has he given the names of the officers under whome he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes
VII Has he mad a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension Nathan the one under the Act of Jun 7, 1832? Yes
VIII Has the Court given their opinion? Yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes
X Is the Clerk's seal affixed?/ And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? No
XIII If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one
living witnesses declaration that such proof cannot be had? Yes
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness
or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath,
certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the
regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age,
as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? Yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And,
if not, which of them is not so answered?

EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how
long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he
cannot swear positively as to the sole
the parties length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection
he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For -------year ------- months, and ------ days, I served as a --------For ------months and --------
days, I served as a ------- ; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with au embodied corps called into service by competent authority that lie was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. 
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the
certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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WAR DEPARTMENT
Pension Office,
November 28 1832

SIR:
I return herewith the papers in support of the claim of the person whose name is herto annexed. These papers are in several respects defective. The case is accompanied by a brief. the objections are contained in the negative answers, in red ink, given to the questions. Particular attention should be paid to the accompanying regulations and to the explanatory notes subjoined to the brief. The extraordinary press of business in this office, arising from the great number of claims under the act of June 7, 1832, has hitherto prevented us from attending to the applications sent by you. The investigation of the cases presented under this law has been difficult and laborious, and notwithstanding the greatest exertions have been made by this Department, an earlier attention to your business has been found impracticable. 
The brief has been prepared to meet all cases, and thus to save the excessive labor which would otherwise by imposed upon the office, and which would consume so much time as to render the delay two fold greater than it now is in the investigation of claims and writing letters. Each case is considered correct in all respects except in relation to those questions to which a negative answers is affixed. no other alteration or addition will be required. I am, respectfully, 
Your obedient servant, 
JL Edwards
Isaac Parrish Esq
Cambridge Ohio
William Lyon
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Cambridge April 6th 1833
Dear Sir
This Evenings Mail art the papers of the matter of application of William Lyons for a Pension. This is the second time they have been Returned, the first time there was no objection (as the brief accompany them which I herewith return). These except the authentication, this I had corrected. the brief accompanying them this time has their objections these questions were answered in the affirmation in the first brief and I refer you to the the Certificate of the two persons and of the Court when I think you will find them answered in the Affirmation. I have accompanied the papers with the letters and briefs that have been forwarded both times to me you will please Examine them and act accordingly.
Yours with Respect
Isaac Parrish 
JL Edwards Esq
Washington D.C