Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 14423, for David A Schuyler, New York
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(3 - 1776).  NUMBER

SERVICE
New York

Schuyler, David A. S. 14423
Carded
CONTENTS
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New York
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David A. Schuyler

being in the State of N York
he was a private in the Company [Illegible
in Captain Snyder reg
of the [Illegible] commanded by Col. Yates in the [Illegible] NYork
For 2 years
Ctfic 20,280
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[Illegible] on the Roll of N York at
the rate of 80 Dollars - Cents per annum,
to commence on the [Illegible]th day of March 1831
Certificate of Pension issued the 13 day of Aug
1833
and Auth. to pay [Illegible]
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Arrears to the 4th Mar ; $160
[Illegible] allowance ending 4 40
$200
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[Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832}
Recorded by [Illegible] Clek
Book 6, Vol. 4 Page 19
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[On the left side written sideways:]  Julius C Nelson Clrk

in the matter of
David A Schuyler for a Pension
14558.
Prisoner
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aomd
24 mo.pie
80$
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State of New York
Herkimer County
S
on the eleventh day of October 1832 personally appeared in open Court
before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the said county of Herkimer now sitting David A Schuyler a resident of the Town of Danube in the said County of Herkimer and State of New York aged seventy one or seventy two years and whether seventy one or seventy two years of age, there being no record thereof, he the said David does not know [illegible] he ascertain, who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832

That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein states

That on the first day of February 1779 as he now believes at the Indian Castle in the Town of Canajoharie, County of Tryon in the State of New york where he then resided he entered the service of the United States as a Volunteer and served as such Volunteer for the term of five months then next following - that he volunteered and served under Captain Gottlieb Snyder who commanded the company to which he belonged - that Colonel Christopher Yates commanded the regiment to which the company commanded by Capt. Snyder and in which he served was attached - that from the Indian Castle the place when he volunteered he was marched to Lake George where he and the rest of the troops stationed there were employed in rebuilding Fort
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George which as he then understood and now believes had been demolished by the
Brittish Army under General Burgoyne in the year 1777 - that while stationed at at Fort George he became acquainted with Colonel Harmanus Schuyler who was also stationed at said Fort during some part of the time - that there was stationed also at said Fort and employed in rebuilding the same one company of Continental troops who were under the command of a Lieutenant Dunnan and an Ensign named Sherad or Sherwood with whom he was also acquainted that the company commanded by said Lieutenant Dunnan belonged to the
Regiment commanded by Colonel Warner as he then understood but with whom he has no acquaintance--  that at the termination of his said term of service he went to Albany he was then discharged and returned home to the Indian Castle where he arrived in July following as he now believes - that he is not certain that said five months service was rendered in the year 1779 but believes it was, and he is certain that his return home from said service was about the time of the departure of General Sullivans Expedition.

And the said David A. Schuyler further states under oath that about one year after the termination of his said term of five months service as such Volunteer as aforesaid he enlisted into the service of the United States at Fort Plain at the Indian Castle aforesaid where he still resides, for the term of nine months- that enlisted into a company under the command of Captain Lawrence Grass - that Simmon
whose given name he thinks was Jacob was their Lieutenant- that the company
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commanded by Capt. Grass and in which he served was attached to the
Regiment under the command of Colonel Marinus Willett with whom he was well
acquainted- that he does not remember who was their Lieutenant Colonel but that a Mr. Bendcaten or Van Bendsedten [VanVeghten?] was then Major - that under his enlistment for nine months he served about the period of two months when he was taken prisoner and carried to Canada as hereinafter mentioned-- that immediately after his enlistment he was ordered to Fort Plain in the Town of Canajoharie aforesaid where he was stationed for a short time, -- that from thence he was marched to Fort Windecker so called situated a short distance below the Indian Castle and above Fort Plain on the Mohawk River where he was also stationed for a short period of time but how long he cannot say -- from Fort Windecker he was marched to Fort Herkimer from Fort Herkimer to Fort Dayton and at which Fort he was also stationed for short periods and then marched back again from Fort to Fort on the Mohawk River, not remaining stationed long at any of said Forts until he had served under such enlistment for the term of about two months when he was taken prisoner by the Indians and carried to Canada- that at the time of his capture he in company with a man named George House who was also at the time in the service of the same corps and who was also at the time captured with him, was dispatched from Fort Windecker to Fort Timmerman some miles below on the Mohawk River for
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provisions for the troops and Inhabitants then stationed and collected at Fort Windecker, that he and said House were taken prisoners by the hostile Indians when on their way to Fort
Timmerman as aforesaid and carried to Oswegatchie now Ogdensburgh on the River St. Lawrence and from thence to Montreal in Canada where he was confined and detained a
prisoner for about fifteen months. The the precise time not being now recollected
by him-- that after his imprisonment at Montreal as aforesaid he was sent to Quebec and from thence shipped by way of Halifax to Boston where he was exchanged and sent home-- that the whole time of his absence and imprisonment from the time of his capture by the
Indians on the Mohawk River until his return home again the year following
was Eighteen months, making his said service of two months under his said
enlistment for Nine months previous to his capture and his said period of his imprisonment altogether twenty months that for his said term of service under his enlistment for nine months he after his return home from his imprisonment obtained a written discharge for nine months
service from Captain Lorence Grass that he kept said discharge until five or six
years ago he handed in to Colonel Peter Sternberg of Danube in the County of Herkimer
for the purpose of obtaining for him military lands - that he had since called on
said Sternberg for said discharge and was told by said Sternberg that said discharge
had been sent by him to some public office at Albany as he now thinks or to
some other place not now recollected by him that he had not been able to get said discharge nor has he seen it since he delivered it to said Sternberg nor does he now know where the same is or what has become of it except as he is told
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by said Sternberg- that for his first term of service of nine months he never had
any written discharge--

And the said David further stated under oath that previous [Illegible] to the aforesaid
service rendered by him under his said Several terms of enlistment he was enrolled in the Militia of the State of New York and performed occasional actual service as a militiaman in defence of his country -  that at the age of sixteen years he was enrolled in  militia of the country in a company commanded by [Illegible] Digert in Colonel Klock’s Regiment and in obedience to the general order then under then offered to the militia of the state of New York provided himself with a gun , Bayonet & Belt, cartridge Box and cartridges, kept himself in readiness at all times, except his aforesaid term of enlistment at a minutes warning that whilst so enrolled and acting with the Militia of the said State he was repeatedly called out into the service of the United States and discharged the usual duties of Soldiers in the regular service-- that he was at different times stationed at different Forts in Tryon County on the Mohawk River, sometimes at one and sometimes another-- that the duties performed at said Forts were the usual garrison duties that whenever the
enemy made his appearance in the vicinity of any of the settlements on said River the inhabitants fled to and assembled themselves of the nearest
Fort when the Militia would be placed on duty to guard and defend such Forts against the enemy-- that the occasions of this kind of duty and Military service
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[Overlaid from page 7:] provisions for the troops and Inhabitants then

[Start of page 9:] were very frequent [Illegible] generally of [Illegible] duration lasting some times a week that occasionally he was ordered out also in pursuit of the Enemy-- that he cannot remember nor is he able in any wise to ascertain
How long or period of service the whole of the said last mentioned service
taken collectively would amount to, but has no doubt and verily believes that
his said last mentioned service taken all together would amount at least three months of actual service-- that the whole of the said last mentioned service was rendered on the Mohawk River, in Tyron County aforesaid--  that he has never been in any battle-- that
he has no record of his age nor does he know of any ---
that he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the
present, and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of
any state-- that he knows of no person, living at this time by whom he can prove his said Term of five months and Nine months service aforesaid except George House who was with him and served with him the said first period of five months under Capt. Snyder and who was also enlisted with him under Capt. Grass and taken prisoner with him when enlisted for nine months- that he expects to prove his imprisonment also by Thomas T Shoemaker and Andrew Piper who were taken prisoner after him but who returned home with him from Canada.
That he was born in 1761-62, 1763 but he cant tell, thinks he is 71--72 years old that he has no record of his age
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that he lived at the Indian Castle at that time in the town of Canajoharie County of Tryon now Danube in the county of Herkimer when he enlisted
into the service of the United States as aforesaid-- that he has lived there
ever since the revolutionary War

That he volunteered into the service at one time for five months and at another time he enlisted for nine months-- 

That Colonel Harmanus Schuyler Lieutenant Dunning & Ensign Sherrod were at Fort George when he was at that place as a volunteer and who were in the Regular service as he understood

That he had a written discharge given him for his nine months service by Capt. Lorence Grass - He does not know where it now is
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that he handed his discharge to Colonel Peter Sternberg to get Military lands for him and has not even been able to get it [Illegible] although he has called on Sternberg for it--
That he is known to several persons residing in [Illegible] Danube who will reside in 
his present neighborhood and who can testify as to their belief of his services as a
Soldier of the Revolution

And he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the
[Illegible] and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any state.

David A Schuyler 
X his mark
Sworn & then Subscribed the day and year aforesaid in Open Court

Julius C Nelson Clerk

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter
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and after putting the interrogations presented by the war Department
that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served and was
imprisoned as he states--
And the Court further certifies that it appears to them from the Affidavit of Thomas T Shoemaker hereto annexed that the source and informant mentioned in the applicants declaration has been performed as therein stated and that the person who made the above mentioned Affidavit is known to the Court and a man of credibility and that the statement contained in his affidavit is entitled to full Credit

He and the
there were employed in rebuilding Fort
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Thomas Shoemaker of the Town of German flatts in said County aged sixty Eight
years and Andrew Pipe of the Town of Frankfort in said County aged seventy two years being [Illegible] duly sworn do depose and say that in the spring of the year 1782 as they now believe true they were taken Prisoners together at Little Falls then in the County of Tryon now Herkimer and carried to Canada and imprisoned at Montreal--
that previous to the time they were taken prisoner they had understood that David A Schuyler had been taken prisoner in the neighborhood of the Indian Castle on the Mohawk River below Herkimer where these deponents resided and carried to Canada-- And the said Andrew Piper for himself says that shortly after their arrival at Montreal as such Prisoners as aforesaid he saw the said David A Schuyler who although not confined to the Gaol in which these deponents are confined was detained there as a prisoner and the said Thomas and Andrew  both say that in the fall of said year 1782 then deponents and the said David A Schuyler and many more of the American Prisoners at Montreal were sent to Quebec and from thence to Boston where they were exchanged and sent home together--
that these deponents were imprisoned at Montreal for the Term of about six months only and further say not
Thomas T Shoemaker
Sworn to & subscribed this [Illegible]day of October 1802 before me
the Judges of the Court of common pleas of the said County Herkimer  in open Court
Julius C Nelson Clerk

there were employed in rebuilding
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[Illegible]
Herkimer County  ⎬ SS

George House of the Town of Warren in the said County of Herkimer being duly sworn saith that he is seventy five or seventy six years of age-- that he was acquainted with David A Schuyler of the Town of Danube in said County during the
Revolutionary War--  that during said War the year he does not particularly recollect but believes it was in the year 1779 or 1780 he and the said David  volunteered into the service of the United state then in the Town of Canajoharie in Tryon County for the term of five months under Gottlich Snyder who was a captain as he now believes and were under said Snyder marched to Fort George in the County of Saratoga where they served for said term of five months when they were discharge
and returned home to Canajoharie.
That the year following as he believes the said David and this deponent enlisted for the term of nine months in a company commanded by Captain Lorence Grass in a Regiment commanded by Colonel Marinus Willett - that after serving under said enlistment under said Grass at several of the Forts on the Mohawk River in Canajoharie and its vicinity. for some months the time how long not being now recollected by him.
he and the said David when on their way from Fort Windecker to Fort Timmerman on duty were taken prisoners and carried to Canada by the Indians-- that they were taken to Montreal where they were imprisoned

 there were employed in
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[From another page:] provisions for the troops and Intent to

detained as prisoners for same time that they were there although not in those confinement for more than a year-- that the said David
returned home as he has always understood and as he believes true
By the way of Quebec and Boston but that this deponent did not
turn home with with him said David--  and that this deponent came home afterwards and further saith not
Sworn to and subscribed
This 9th day of October 1832

George House His mark

Charles Gray Commiss. of Deeds
on the 9th day of October 1852 before me Charles Gray a commissioner of Deeds &  appeals  George House and by his mark subscribed the foregoing
Affidavit and made oath thereto and I further certify that the said George House in
the above Affidavit named and who subscribed the same is the same person who by his mark has subscribed the next following Affidavit as admitted by said George House
Chas Gray
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Town of Warren County Herkimer State New York
being duly sworn depose and saith that he was well acquainted with David Schuyler in the warof the revolution and ever since and that this deponent was present whenand Said David Schuyler did Enlist in the service of the United States by Capt Lorence Grass in the spring of 1781 or 1782 under the [Illegible] command of Colonel Marinus Willett this Enlistment took place at Fort Windecker for the term of Nine months
this deponent and said David Schuyler remained at Fort Windecker about two months
when we in [Illegible] went across the Mohawk River in order to procure some  provision to supply the fort said David Schuyler and that deponent were then taken prisoner by the Enemies Indians and carried to Canada and put in the prison house remained in Canaday as this deponent thinks for more than one year then [Illegible] to Boston and there was exchanged and then deponent and further states that he knew David Schuyler to have rendered service to the united stated as a militia man in Standing Century Guarding Fort Herkimer at various different times  and different years the whole time of his Militia service might amount to more than one year actual service and further says not.

George House His mark

I certify that the above George House who took the foregoing oath is a credible witness
and [Illegible] on his  testimony Sworn and subscribed before the this 21 day of July 1832
Thomas Hall Comp & [Illegible]
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Town of Springfield County of Otsego being duly sworn depose and says that he was well acquainted did with David Schuyler in the war of the revolution
 and ever since and that this companion was present when said David did enlist 
in the service of the United states By at Lorence Grass and under the [Illegible] command of Colonel Marinus Willett This Enlistment took place sometime in
The spring of the year 1781 or 1782 at Fort Windecker for the term of Nine months
This deponant and said David Schuyler as this deponant says say and remained at Fort Windecker about two Months when said David Schuyler was [Illegible] on the otherside of the Mohawk River in order procure some provisions when said David Schuyler taken prisoner by the Enemies Indians and carried to Canaday and as this deponent believes Did not return for more than one year thereafter and further says not
Henry House
I certify that the above named Henry House who took the foregoing oath is a credible witness and  his relians may be put on this testimony
●
Sworn and subscribed. Before me this 21 day of July 1832
Thomas Hall Comp [Illegible]

he and the
there were employed in rebuilding Fort
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I Julius C. Nelson Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Herkimer do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of David A. Schuyler for a pension.
And I the said Clerk do hereby further certify that Charles Gray and Thomas Hall by whom some of the Affidavits annexed were sworn were on the date of the said Affidavits so sworn by them reflectively Commissioners, in and for the said County of Herkimer and duly authorized to administer oaths-- that am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Charles L Thomas and that I have examined their signatures to the said Affidavits and believe the same to be genuine--
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this thirteenth day of October in the  year one thousand Eight hundred and thirty two--
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No. 11,338
David A. Schuyler
Herkimer Co N.York



Charles Gray Esq.
Herkimer N.Y.
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WAR DEPARTMENT. 
Pension Office, 183 
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: }). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your daim. 
A Statement, shewing the Service of David A Schuyler Herkimer Co N.Y.

[TABLE]
Period when the service was rendered.  |  Duration the claimant's service. Years.  Months.  Days.  |  Rank of the claimant.   |  Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served.  |   Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. ┃  Battles in which the applicant was engaged.   |  Country through which he marched.   |  Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period.  |  Evidence by which the declaration is supported.  |
Jan 1st 1779 vol.  |  5 Months.  |  Private  |  Cap Gott let to [illegible]  |  Col Christopher Yates  |    |  Lake Geo, Canjoharie [Canajoharie] Fort [illegible] Ft Herkimer  Ft [illegible] Ft [illegible] Ft [illegible, Timerman?] Ogdenberg Montrose[?]  |  71 or 2 Tryon County Indian Castle Fort Plain  |  Tradition and living Witnesses  |
Enlisted  |  9 Months.  |    |    |  Cap [illegible] Simmons Lieut  |  Col [illegible] Schuyler Col Marinus Willet  Col [illegible]  |    |    |    |    |
[END OF TABLE]

I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant 
J. L. EDWARDS, 
Commissioner of Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832. 
The following regulations have been adopted: 
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service. 
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law: 
1. The Regular Troops. 
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers. 
3. Persons employed in the Naval service. 
4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record. 
DECLARATION. 
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832. 
State, Territory or District of County } ss.
On this ___ day of ___ personally appeared (a) before __ A.B. a resident (b) of ___ in the county of ___  and State, territory or District of ___  ages (c) ___ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provion made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) ___  , with ___ and served in the ___ (e) regiment of the ___ line, under the following named officers: 
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers, the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he enered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which marched. [ ]This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.] 
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of ___
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. ____ A. B. 
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. 
I _____ of the Court of ____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of ___for a pension. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this ___ day of ___&c. 
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out. 
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
 (k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the ___ and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with ___ , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be ___ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. 
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. ___ who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the ___ and that C.D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the ___ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit. 
I ___Clerk of the Court of ___ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the applicacation of ___ for a pension. 
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this ___ day of ___&c. 
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction. 
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case. 
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia. 
1. Where and in what year were you born? 
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it? 
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom? 
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
6.  {To a Soldier} Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?}
6. {To an Officer.} Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?}
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant. 
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates. 
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject. 
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court. 
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature. 
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter. 
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned. 
[d] The declarant must in the period or periods of the war when he served. 
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: 
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:--For __ year ___ months , and ___ days I served as a ___. For ___ months and ___days, I served as a ___; and for such service I claim a pension." 
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.   Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority;  that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable. 
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required. 
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case. 
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers. 
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 
Proof of Service. 
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant’s entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[ ] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops, The proof required by rule in note [j] applies in continental troops only.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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State of New York
Herkimer County  SS

Personally appeared before me Charles Gray Commissioner of deeds
David A. Schuyler who being duly sworn deposeth I saith that by reason of [Illegible]
and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise
length of his service but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following [Illegible]

for five months I served as a private as a volunteer in the company of Captain Gottlieb Snyder in the Regiment of Col. Christopher Yates-- I do not remember who were the subaltern officers under Capt. Snyder nor who were the other [Illegible] officers under Col. Yates--  that I believe this service was rendered in the year 1779 but am not at all certain of the year it may have been later

For one year and eight months I served as a private including the term of my imprisonment which happened at this time, in a company commanded by Capt Lorence Grass in the Regiment of Captain Marinus Willett-- [Illegible] I think was once [Illegible]  but I am not certain nor do I remember who were the other officers in the company or regiment [added sentence is illegible]
My said [Illegible] of one year and eight months happened as follows-- I was [Illegible] 
said company of said [Illegible] for nine months after
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serving about two months under my said enlistment I was taken prisoner when actually engaged on duty and carried to Canada where I was imprisoned and detained a prisoner for one year and six months working the whole period of my service and imprisoned under said enlistment for one year and eight months

that for this last service after my return, have I received a written discharge from Capt
Grass and which has been lost  in the manner Stated in my declaration--

that I served also, take all my actual militia service from the period of my enlistment in 
the Militia which was in the year 1777 or 1778 as I believe, to the close of the war as a private in the company commanded by Capt. Hamarius Snyder  in Col Jacob Klocks Regiment and in the manner stated in my declaration for three months and I have no doubt far more than are there

that my Militia service was rendered at different periods during said War and for no certain as fixed periods both before and after my aforesaid voluntary service and my service [Illegible] except that some of my draft service
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was for fixed periods but how long, I do not now reference in otherwise than I told in my declaration and how long I served at my one twice and at what time or times particularly I am unable to state, but I do recollect that I was obliged to keep myself in readiness to march at a minutes warning and that I did at all times keep myself in readiness, and was repeatedly called out and ordered and into service and did service in the manner stated in my declaration and that all my Militia service thus rendered amounts to three months actual service in the service of the United States and for all the aforesaid service I claim a pension 
[signed] David A Schuyler X his mark

State of New York 
Herkimer County } ss  On the 28th day May 1833 before me Charles Gray [illegible, then?] of & for commissioner personally came the above named David A. Schuyler and by his mark subscribed the foregoing affidavit and duly made oath to the same and I further certify that the statements of the said David A. Schuyler are entitled to credit 
[signed] Chas Gray
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State of Newyork 
Herkimer County } ss  I Julius C Nelson Clerk of the County of Herkimer do certify that Charles Gray before whom the foregoing affidavit purports to have been [illegible] was on the date thereof a commissioner authorized to [illegible] affidavits and that from my acquaintance with the hand writing of the said Charles and an examination of the same believe the signature of Chas Gray to be genuine and the proper hand writing of the said Charles Gray
In witness whereof I have hereto set my hand and seal of Office this 28th day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and [illegible]
[signed] Julius C Nelson Clerk
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J. L. Edwards Esquire
Sir
Enclosed I return the pension papers of Mr David A Schuyler 
You will perceive that under his enlistment for nine months he claims one year and Eight months service for the reason that he was during his said 9 months period of enlistment taken a prisoner and carried to Canada and detained a prisoner making in all 20 months from the commencement of his service under his enlistment until his return home from his imprisonment - I have been informed that the Department allows in these cases the whole term of imprisonment as a term of service 
If I am mistaken on this subject I may be the cause of doing Mr. Schuyler injustice Mr. Schuyler says he has no doubt he served in the militia taking all his militia service together more than a year - But believing that his service other than his militia service would entitle him to a full pension I [illegible] him that it would not be necessary to include all the militia service and it was therefor put down at three months If his term of imprisonment should not be allowed as a term of service & if he is allowed but three months for Militia service his time will fall short of two years. In case his imprisonment should be excluded then it would be but an act of Justice to Mr Schuyler
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to allow him again to amend so as to extend the period of his militia service –

There can be no doubt that Mr Schuylers Militia service from his statements exceed 12 months actual service and it was not stated at that length for the reasons above given - and thinking that my mistake may operate and injury to him I am desirous to have an opportunity to prevent it before it is too late
I remain, Sir
Your obedient servt 
[signed] Chas Gray

Herkimer May 28th 18[33?]
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Rev. War Section Division
S. File No. 14. 423
David A. Schuyler.
Rev. War.

J. S. C. Ex'r.
Department of the Interior,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
Washington, D. C. May 11, 1915

SIR:

For use in the above-entitled claim for pension, you are requested to furnish this Bureau with a report in the case of David A. Schuyler who was allowed $80 per annum from Mch. 4, 1831, pensioned under the Act of June 7, 1832 by certificate No. 20, 280 issued Aug. 13, 1833, on the New York Agency, showing date of soldier's death and name of the person to whom the arrears of his pension
were paid.

Very respectfully,
[Illegible]
Commissioner

THE AUDITOR FOR THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT,
Treasury Department.  0-2

[Stamped at the lower left:]  May 15 1915
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[NOTE: THIS FORM IS FILLED OUT, BUT COPY IS TOO LIGHT TO READ]

REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION.  3-525 
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, 
BUREAU OF PENSIONS. 
Washington, D. C., 19 
In reply to your request of ---, received --- for a statement of the military history of ___ a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. 

[TABLE]
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.   |  LENGTH OF SERVICE.   |  RANK.   |  OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. COLONEL.   |  STATE.  |
[END OF TABLE]

Battles engaged in, 
Residence of soldier at enlistment, 
Date of application for pension, 
Residence at date of application, 
Age at date of application, 
Remarks: 
Respectfully, 
Commissioner.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
May 14, 1915.

OFFICE OF
AUDITOR FOR INTERIOR DEPARTMENT
IN REPLYING QUOTE INITIALS

The Commissioner of Pensions.
Sir:

In reply to your letter of the 11th instant you are informed that, according to the latest account rendered by the U. S. Pension Agent, at New York City the records of this office show last payment to have been made to David A. Schuyler, Priv. Army Rev., certificate No. 20280, at $80.00 per month, annum, to September 4, 1834, to Henry S. Mulligan, attorney. Said pensioner resided in Minden, Montgomery Co. N. Y., for ten years, and previous thereto he resided in Danube, Herkimer Co., N. Y., but the date of his death
is not shown.
Letter herewith returned.
Respectfully,
[Illegible]
Auditor.
By R
Deputy Auditor.

Form 3577.
[Illegible]

[Stamped:]  U.S Pension May 15 1915
Page 32

Mrs John
14423
INVALID.
File No. 14423
David A Schuyler
Pri. Rev. War
---
Act:  June 7th 32 
Index: --Vol. 1, Page 332
(Arrangement of 1870.)
[Upper right hand corner is written:]  1905. Dec 18 history to L. Way
M 13 H
----
1915 June 2 Hist to Alice A. Clark V.L.M.
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J. L. WAY,
JOHNSTOWN, N.Y.

[Stamped upside down:] Nov. 29 1905

Johnstown N.Y Nov. 26th 1905
Pension Bureau
Washington D.C. ⎬ Gentlemen
Could you please tell me the date of birth and death of Captain Jacob Gardinier, Tryon County, New York State Militia Regiment under Colonel
Fredrick Fisher and who he married, also the date of birth and death of David Schuyler and David Schuyler Jr. of Colonel Clyde’s Tryon County Regiment New York State Militia and who they married-- all in the war of the Revolution
This information will enable me to join the Daughters American Revolution
Respectfully Yours
Mrs John L. Way
Johnstown N.Y.
P.O. Box 4
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R. D. Canastota, N.Y.
May, 27th, 1915.
Rev. War Section
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen:
Can you verify among Rev
pension records the following data:
1.   David Schuyler, served under Capt. Vrooman of Fort Schuyler, N.Y.
2.   Was in Vrooman's Expedition, recorded in Hammond's History of Mad. Co. N.Y. Page 658.
3.   Was taken captive by Indians at Chittenango’s Landing Mad. Co., N.Y. 
Escaped and returned to his home near Herkimer. Afterward, he
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was one of the first white settlers in the Northern part of Mad. Co. 1790
He married a Mehitable-- said to have been of Spanish descent -- so last name may have been Spanish-- After his death, she remarried a Mr. Lasher
David Schuyler was alive in 1812 but we cannot tell how long he lived after that. Possibly until the 1830’s. He was born in the 1750’s-- judging from the ages of his wife and his brother--
Yours very truly
(Miss) Alice A. Clark.

[Stamped in the lower left corner:]  U.S. PENSION OFFICE MAY 29 1915
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David A Schuyler
Oct. 11. 1832
Danube, Herkimer Co., NY 
[Inserted with arrow drawn between Herkimer and Co.:]  Indian Castle now
Canajoharie, Tryon Co, NY at Enlistment
 71 or 72 years
*Taken prisoner by Indians carried to Montreal there to Quebec:  Fall 1782. Exchanged from Boston after 18 mos.
Where:  Indian Castle.  Canajoharie          When 1781 1782 is
When Feb. 1. 1779                                       Where Same
Term 5 mos                                                   Term 2 mos *
As Private                                                       As
Capt Gottlieb Snyder                                    Capt Lawrence Gros
Col. Christopher Yates                                Col. Marinus Willett 
State.  NY                                                       State NY

(1)
----------
When 1777 or 1778
Where
Term 3 mos
as
Capt Jost Deygert
Col Jacob Klock
State
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3-407. 
Div.    Ex’r. 
No.
Department of the Interior, 
BUREAU OF PENSIONS, 
The above the should be indorsed on every paper relating to this claim.   Washington, D.C.,  , 190
In response to ---- for information as to the status of the above entitled claim for pension, you are informed that it awaits replies to letters of inquiry addressed by this Bureau under date of ___ to parties supposed to have personal knowledge of facts touching the merits of the claim.

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1.File No. 47145, 
Jacob Gardineir, 
Rev. War. 
Dec. 16, 1935. 
Madam:
In response to your letter dated November 26, 1935, and received in this Bureau November 28, 1935, you are advised that the above-noted Jacob Gardineir was born January 31, 1730; in 1787 he had been a resident of Mohawk District, Montgomery Co, N.Y., for the past twenty years, and he resided in Montgomery Co., N.Y. in 1791; date of death not shown; he was pensioned under the Act of April 22, 1786, for wounds received August 6, 1777, while a captain in Col. Frederick Fisher's Tryon Co., N.Y. Militia. No family data. 
A careful search of the records of this Bureau fails to show that a claim was filed on account of the Revolutionary service of David Schuyler or David Schuyler, Jr.,. Col. Clyde's Tryon Co., N.Y. Militia. A record of the service of David A. Schuyler is forwarded you herewith. 
Very respectfully, 
Commissioner.

Mrs. John L. Way, 
P.O. Box 4, 
Johnstown, N. Y.