Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8173, Andrew Carson, N.C.
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3-1776
SERVICE
N.C.
Carson, Andrew
NUMBER
S.8173
CONTENTS Carded
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4303
North Carolina
Andrew Carson of Iredell Co in the State of N.C. who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Dixsonbal, of the ___ commanded by Gen Rutherford in the North Carolina Militia for 18 months from 1776
Inscribed on the Roll of North Carolina at the rate of 40 Dollars ---- Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7th day of Jany 1833 and Sent Hon Lewis Williams H. R. 
Arrears to 4th of September 1832 90.00
Semi=anl. allowance ending 4 March 1833 30.00
Audit 120.00

{Revolutionary Claim, Actr June 78, 1832)
Recorded by Henry H. Sylvester Clerk, Book D Vol. 8 Page 50
No death date or agency
Let. March 10 1836 Hon. L. Williams
"     Oct 6          "       "      "       "
1890 March 23 C. D. Cowles - history [illegible]
April 19 do additional do
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State of No Ca}
Iredell County}  On this 22nd day of August 1832 Personally Appeared in Open Court before the Worshipful County Court for the County of Iredell now sitting Andrew Carson a resident of said County and State aforesaid aged Seventy Six years who being first duly Sworn according to Law doth, on his oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he served in the Revolution.  That he entered the service of the United States and served under the following named officers, as herein stated.  The first campaign he served under Captain Joseph Dixon Lieutenant Carr Ensign Erwin.  he does not recollect the year but it was late in the fall, recollects the snow was immensely & plenty (it was cald familiarly the Snow Campaign) went out to 96 (now cald Cambridge, South Carolina under the command of General Rutherford, his son James Rutherford was aid to his Father, Wm Lee Davidson was adjutant, was engaged with the Tories at 96 So Ca was gone three months and returned was discharged at Sherrill's Ford on Catawba was discharged by Capt Dixon, the discharge is lost. The next Campaign was against the Cherokee Indians under the command of Captain David Caldwell.  the same General Adjutant & aid as before, started in or about the month of August 1776 lay six weeks at Cathies Fort on Catawba. Waiting there for the Army to collect, marcht against the Cherrokee Indians had a battle with & defeated them on Juniper River,
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entered & destroyed some of their Towns, dont recollect the names, was gone this tour three months, was discharged at Cathies Fort by Capt Caldwell this discharge is lost.   The next campaign was under Capt Caldwell & General Rutherford were stationed at Purisburgh on the Savanna River remained there some time say 4 or 8 weeks.  We were then moved up the River to a place in those days cald the Two Sisters.  We on the So Ca and the Brittish on the Georgia side of the River.  We were employed in watching the Brittish, who again moved up.  We also moved & after marching 3 days were informed that the Brittish had gone back.  We then retraced our steps, went back to two Sisters & subsequently to Puriesburgh.  We lay alternately at these two places for some 4 or 5 months, during the latter part of this campaign we had a battle with the Brittish at Briar Creek in this affair he lost two good Horses this tour was for five months & was in the fall & winter 1778-9 _ he staid about six months owing to relief not coming in time was discharged personally by Genl Lincoln & General Rutherford and is lost; they also gave him cirtificates to draw for support on the public stores on his way home, from this time untill the Shallow Ford Battle (with the Tories) he was engaged in Several Small Tours of Days & Weeks at a time not recollected, was always ready & went at a moments notice, only one month he recollects he was out with Capt John Read, we went to Congaree where we joined Capt or Col Wade Hampton was discharged by Capt Read which discharge is lost, he again recollects a tour of duty under Capt D Caldwell after the Tories & Foraging, which discharge is for fifty-two days and enclosed marked No.1.  Also he was on a tour of duty for six weeks after the Tory Bryant we followed him down to Pedee under Col
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& Major Lewis, we came up with him at Colstons where we defeated him, was discharged but does not recollect by whom it is lost.  Also he was on a tour of duty under Genl Davidson & discharged by Michael Asbury Liut, the discharge is enclosed No. 2 is for 4 weeks & two days -- he was also on a tour of Duty of thirty one days after the Tory Bryant and was discharged by Capt Jno Graham which discharge is enclosed No. 3.  he was at all times on the alert & considered a minute man with a good Horse & arms always ready, he was informed of the marching of the Tories a short time previous to the Shallow ford battle, he mounted his Horse about sun set and rode 62 miles to the Head quarters of Gen Davidson where he arrived about sun rise next morning who immediately gave him a command of 52 men with which he returned & after maneuvering for a couple of weeks we came upon the Main body of the Tories near the Shallow ford on the Yadkin, where after an obstinate engagement we routed them in this engagement Capt Francis of the Whig side was killed.  There was not any officers higher than captains each one commanded his own man, from this time which was in the latter part of March he was constantly out more or less until the battle of Guilford where he arrived the day after the Battle, he saw Col Washington, Colonel Lee & Major or Colonel Hamilton from the time I got to the men from Genl Davidson to the end of the war I was always on the alert & under pay
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as a Ranger sometimes Commanding a company of volunteers at other times a volunteer myself and under the command of others -- he had forgot to tell in the proper place that in 1776 in May he joined Col [illegible[ at Norfolk Va marched with him to Halifax Va was discharged after 1 months service.  The Col was going on to Charleston but did not get on he thinks till the Battle.  Answers to the Queries as put by the Department through the court 
Query 1 Answer.  Was born in the County of Rowan NoCa in 1756 -- March 1.  
2nd I had a family record as kept by my Father it is lost.  
3rd I was living on Catawba when I entered into service in that part of Rowan (now cald Iredell) have since lived on hunting Creek in said County and do now live there.  
4th Was at all times and under every circumstance a volunteer.  
5th The Officers he recollects our Lincoln, Marion, Rutherford, Nash (or Ashe) & many others as heretofore described he was mostly engaged in what was cald the partizan service & very little with the Regulars as the Tories of No Ca were sufficient to keep the Whigs engaged
6th I had discharges from every Officer he served under but they are all lost except the three enclosed.  The commission he got from Gen Davidson is also lost, and himself nearly worn out. He hereby relinquishes every claim for a Pension or Annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any agency of any State or Territory. Sworn & subscribed this day & year aforesaid. Andrew Carson
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Andrew Carson
Iredell Co
N.C.
No. 4823
11.16 -
Prob,
27-Nov
Hon L. Williams
Panther Creek
N.C.
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BRIEF in the case of Andrew Carson of Iredell Co. in the State of NC (Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disable by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 76
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

[table with four columns headers] 
Period. / Duration of Service. / Rank. / Name of General and Field Officers under whom he served.
In 17  / 3 months / priv / Gen Rutherford Capt O'Brien
Aug 1776 / 3 months / priv /  Gen Rutherford   Capt Caldwell
1778 . 79  / 5 months / priv / Gen Rutherford Capt Caldwell
1 month / priv / Col Wade Hampton
#1 month 22 days / priv / Capt Caldwell
1 month 12 days / priv / Col Lewis
#1 month / priv /Gen Davidson
1 month Cherokee Indians a Tens River _ Briar Creek
1 month 14 days
18 . 18
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Catawba, Iredell Co.
7. Is  his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? no evidence but traditionary excepting the affidavit of one witness who was with him in the tour of 5 mo.
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? not being authenticated agreeable to the regulations _ the Clk [illegible] not being attached to the declaration.
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
#The discharges said to be enclosed marked No 1, 2 & 3 are not found?
Examining Clerk.
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November 17, 1933
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Andrew Carson-S. 8173
BA-J/AWF

Miss Lena Grey Annis
Logansport
Kentucky

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Andrew Carson and Christopher Carson.
Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims made to the United States for pension and bounty land based upon military service of soldiers in that war.
A search of the records fails to show such claims on file on account of the services of Christopher Carson. It is suggested, as a possible means of securing data relative to the military records of this soldier, that you apply to the Adjutant General, War Department, Washington, D. C.
The data furnished below were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S. 8173, based upon the Revolutionary War service of Andrew Carson.
He was born  March 1, 1756 in Rowan County, North Carolina; names of his parents not stated.
While residing on the Catawba in that part of Rowan County, which was later Iredell County, North Carolina, Andrew Carson volunteered about the time of the Snow Campaign and service as a private at various times, with the North Carolina troops, under Captain Joseph Dixon, David Caldwell, John Read, John Graham, Colonels Mabane, Lewis and Peasley.  He was in an engagement at Ninety-Six, with the Tories in 1776, in a battle with the Cherokee Indians on the
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Tennessee River, the battle of Brier Creek, and in the battle of Shallow Ford on the Yadkin, where he was Captain in command of fifty-two men under General Davidson, and continue to serve until in 1782. The length of his service was, fifteen months as private and six months as Captain of Rangers.
The solider, Andrew Carson, was allowed pension on his application executed, August 22, 1832, then a resident of Iredell County, North Carolina.  There are no data in this claim relative to his family.
In order to obtain the date of the last payment of pension, the name and address to whom sent, and possibly the date of death of this pensioner, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting office, Records Division, Washington, D. C. citing all of the following date – 
Andew Carson
Certificate No. 4303
Issued January 17, 1833
Rate $60.00 per annum
To commence March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
North Carolina Agency.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator
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1909 Mch. 20 Hist. to Miss Grace [illegible] T.L.M.
1920 Jany 10 Hist. to Tine C. Houston
1925 Nov. 6 Hist to Mrs. Paul A. Klayder
1926. Ja. 8. Mrs. T. O. Lines infd. of cost of copies, aw
1926 Feb. 26 Mrs. T. O. Lines infd no aff. As des by her, etc. aw.
1926 Mar. 9. Mrs. T. O. Lines infd. No such aff. In any A.C. between 1775 & 1861
1926. Mar. 26. Mrs. T. O. Lines again infd no such aff.
1928 Aug 8 Hist to Mrs. C. R. Bennett. ME.E.
1929. Jan. 19. Hist to Mrs. Leonard Roberts – see letter in Daniel Moore, S.7249 aw
1933 Nov 17 hist to Miss Lena [illegible] aw
Rev War
8173
INVALID.
File No. 8173
Andrew Carson
Priv. Rev. War
Act: June 7th 1832
Index: - Vol. [illegible], Page 58
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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CARSON, ANDREW
N. C. 
Andrew Carson
S. F. 8173.
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These are to certify that Andrew Carson served in public service two weeks after Briens and fifteen days at [illegible] River under the command of [illegible] Peasley given under my hand this 6th Day of Agust 1872
John Graham

No 3
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N. C. 
Andrew Carson
S. F. 8173
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This is to certify that Andrew Carson hath served fiftey two Days in my Company in actual Servis by General orders given under my Hand 
march day 23rd 1781
D. Caldwell Capt
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N. C. 
Andrew Carson
S. File 8173
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CARSON, ANDREW
This may certify that Andrew Carson hath served in the public service four weeks and two days under command of Genrl. Davidson. Given under my hand this 28th day of February 1782.
Michl Elsburry Lieut
No. 2
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Andrew Carson discharges -
The declarations sent to Hon war Department by Lewis Williams under date 25th Aug. 1832–
Mr Carson resides in Iredell County North Carolina –
Mr. Edwards of the pension office will please file these discharges with the declaration –
Lewis Williams
5th Sep 1832

To be filed with the papers of Andw. Carson who was admitted some time since
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Andrew Carson
{ 1-22 Capt Caldwell dis Mar 23 '81
{ 30 Genl Davidson Lt.Alsbury feb 17 82
{ #14 [illegible] Capt. Graham
{ 15 [illegible] Col Peasley Capt Graham Aug '82
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Andrew Carson which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? yes.
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of this service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes.
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes.
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certification? yes
X. Is the Clerk’s seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No.
XII. If the clergyman’s affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? ---
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least on living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? one witness [illegible] the tour of duty of 5 mo.
XIV. †If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office? 
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant’s service? yes
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No
XVII. ††Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? Yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES. QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: “Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of h is recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For ___ years ___ months, and ___days, I served as a ___ For ___ months and ___ days, I served as a ___ ; and for such service I claim a pension
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service. In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
†QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers. In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

The discharges mentioned in the declaration as being enclosed with it do not appear to have been received at the Department. They should be sent to this office.
Pension Office
Nov. 26, '32
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We Joseph Sharpe and Hugh Andrews residing in the County of Iredell & State of North Carolina hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Andrew Carson who has sworn to & subscribed the above declaration that we believe him to be 78 years of age – that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides  to have been a soldier of the Revolution & that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
Hugh Andrews
Joseph Sharpe

The said Joseph Sharpe further states that he was out in the Cherokee Campaign with Andrew Carson and he believes the statement of his services wherein as here made is true & correct.
Joseph Sharpe
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And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the  matter & putting the questions prescribed by the war department that the above name applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states – and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Joseph Sharpe and Hugh Andrews are resident in the County of Iredell and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit 

I Absolom K. Simonton Clerk of said Court of the Pleas & quarter sessions of Iredell County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of Said court in the matter of the application of Andrew Carson for a pension.

In testimony whenof I have here unto set my hand and seal of office this 22nd day of August 1832
A Simonton Clerk
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3  1. For 3 months. Capt Joseph Dixon went to Ninety Six in the winter and fought with the Tories – Discharged at Sherrillsford
5 = 2. For 3 months in August 1776 under Capt Caldwell
5 = 3. For 5 months under Capt. Caldwell in the year 1778-79; but staid 6 months dueing to the relief not coming – was in the battle of Briers Creek –
2=4. For 1 month under Capt. John Ried; and joined Genl Wade Hampton –
5. For 1 month X 12 days _ 1_1/2
#6. For 1 month 15 days after [illegible] 1 ½ 14 days See discharge no. 3
7. For 1 month and 2 days
8. For 1 month or 31 days
9. For 1 month in 1776 –
In all 19 months –
I am acquainted with Andrew Carson, and know him to be entitled to full faith and credit in any thing he may state _ I have known personally for many years – Given under my hand this 9th of January 1833 –
Lewis Williams
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Andrew Carson Suppl. NC
get the papers
Hon. L. Williams

James L. Edwards Eqr. 
Pension Office
Washington
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Washington March 7th 1836
Sir
I send you the supplemental declaration of apt Andrew Carson of Iredell County North Carolina _ I have known Capt Carson for 25 years intimately and well, and that he is a man of perfect integrity and of the most unquestionable veracity _ He told me at the time he made the former declaration in 1832 that there were serving short periods of service he was engaged in for which he did not at most time make a claim or statement _ He has since been informed that he is justly entitled to compensation for the short periods of service and therefore  making this supplemental declaration - He states as follows towit –
1. under Capt Dixon when he went to 96 in South Carolina, and was discharge at Sherrills ford on the Catabaw River _ His service last 3 months.
2. under Capt David Caldwell _ He turned out in August 1776, and was commanded by General Rutherford and went over the mountains
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against the Cherokee Indians _ which in this service he was in engaged 5  months.
3. His next period of service was I 1779 under the same officers, when they went or marched to the Savannah River; was discharged by Gen Rutherford and Genl Lincoln at this time Listing his period of service lasted 5 months –
4. He served a two months tour under Capt John Reid and Gel Wade Hampton – went to the Congaree River in South Carolina, and was discharged Captain below Columbia in said State – This service lasted 2 months –
5. as a minute man or Ranger he held a commission as Capt under the command of Gen William Davidson for six months and was a most efficient and active officer _  This I have been told by all the contemporaneous of Capt Carson – This was for 6 months -
Recapitulation
1st. 3 months under Capt Dixon
2nd 5 months under Capt  apt Caldwell & Gen Rutherford
3rd 5 months under the same officers in South Carolina
4th 2 months under Capt Read & Gel Hampton
6th 6 months as Capt of Rangers of minute men
21 months: 6 of which as an officer in the rank of Capt
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Capt Carson is the most aged and among the most vulnerable man in our whole county _ He was always known to be a revolutionary soldier, and has told me frequently that he had understated his service in his first declaration _ To believe him, it is only necessary to know him personally or to hear what his neighbors say of him _ The supplemental declaration is beyond all account, as far as human testimony can go, every word the truth. I hope the additional claim that he makes will be allowed -  
I am very respectfully your obt & very Hon Servt.
Lewis Williams

James L Edwards Esqr
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617 Indiana
Neodesha Kans.
Oct 6 1925

Pension Department – 
Please copy for me what you have on record for Andrew Carson who served in the Revolutionary War from North Carolina.  Also the same of Elijah Brown from North Carolina
Thanks
Mrs. Paul A. Klayder

[round seal] PENSION U. S. OFFICE OCT 8 192-
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G. A. NORRIS
DRAINAGE COMMISSIONER
MRS. ANNA BENNETT, SECRETARY
HARTFORD, KY.
October 15, 1927.
Department of Interior, 
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
Please send the record of  Captain Andrew Carson (my great, great, grandfather) who served in the Revolutionary War. He died in North Carolina in 1841, would like to have the name of his wife and children.
Yours truly,
Mrs. C R Bennett
Harford, Ky
[round seal] PENSION R U. S. OFFICE
OCT 17 1927
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War Department,
Publication Office, War Records 29621 – ’65,
Washington, Apl. 11. 1890.

General Green B. Raum
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.

Dear Sir,

I find there is a desire on the part of the descendants of the within named revolutionary soldier, Andrew Carson of North Carolina, for a complete copy of all the information in your office concerning him, with date of death and rate of, and period during which he received pension.
Wishing to give as little trouble as possible, I only asked at first for a copy of his declaration, which you kindly furnished but in view of the foregoing, I would feel under additional obligations if you will please furnish the information desired.
Very respectfully etc.
C. D. Cowles
Lieut. U.S.A.
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War Records Office
20th & F Sts 
Calvin D. Cowles.
U.S.Army
20th F Street
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Logansport Kentucky
November 8, 1935

Veterans Administration
Washington D. C.

Gentlemen:
You will find on  your files the record of Captain Andrew Carson, who served as a soldier in the American Revolutionary war. Captain Carson is in my line of ancestry and it is of importance that I know the answers to the following questions in order to find out my direct line of ancestry:
1. Who was the mother of Captain Carson?
2. What was his father's name?
3. What were the names of his children?
4. What were the names of of his brother and sisters?
5. If you have the record of Christopher Carson, the famous hunter and scout, I should also like to know the answer to the above questions pertaining to him as I am under the impression that his father married a sister to the wife of one of the Carson brothers.
Any of this information which you may be able to give me or any other information which you may have on file pertaining to the Carson family tree would be deeply appreciated.
Very truly yours, 
(Miss) Lena Grey Annis

(handwritten note in margin) stamped envelope returned nov. 17 (illegible)
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Mexico, Mo. December 26, 1919.
Pension Dept.
Washington, D. C. 
Gentlemen:
Will you please send me the Revolutionary war service of Andrew Carson, N. C. Pvt. & Capt. N. C. Partisan Ranger under Gen. Davidson, 1776-1782. Heitman's, p. 176.
Very truly,
(Miss) Tina C. Houston
(Stamp) Pension Office D U. S. DEC. 22 1919
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Rev
Brownsville, Tenn.
Feb. 19th '09.
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D . C. 
Gentlemen
Would like to know if you can give my any information as to the record of Captain Andrew Carson
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as a soldier in the Revolutionary War. He was born in Iredell Co., N. C. March 1, 1756 and died in iredell Col, N. C.  Jan 25, 1841.
Respct,
Miss Grace Bumpass,
Brownsville, 
Tennessee

(Stamp) PENSION OFFICE A U. S. FEB 23 1909
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607 Main St. 
Phone 5396
Thos. O. Lines
DEALER IN HARDWARE, IMPLEMENTS, BUGGIES, WAGONS, ETC. AUTO ACCESSORIES AND TRACTORS
Neodesha, Kansas, Dec 29 1925
Commissioner of Pension
Washington D. C.
Dear Sir. -
I would like to have photostat copy of the "pension applied for" of Andrew Carson, of Lincoln County, North Carolina, for Rev. Services.
(handwritten notation) of rowan & Iredell Cos.
Will you kindly inform me of cost of same, and how to obtain this copy.
Resp. yours.
Rosetta Lines

(Stamp) PENSION OFFICE U.S. S JAN 2, 1920
(Stamp) LAW DIVISION RECEIVED JAN 3 1926

(handwritten note) The pension was not of Lincoln Co but just on border of it. & as other people from Neodesha Kans have had record this would be the one S.8173. 7 pages
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607 Main St.
Phone 5396
Thos. O. Lines
DEALER IN HARDWARE, IMPLEMENTS, BUGGIES, WAGONS, ETC. AUTO ACCESSORIES AND TRACTORS
Neodesha, Kansas, Feb 21 1926
Department of Pension
Washington D. C.
Dear Sir. -
I have been told there is an affidavit of John Carson of McDowell Co. N.C. Dated June 1858 who testified he was a son of Andrew Carson, a Revolutionary Soldier, who died in said Co., (no date) some years back leaving a widow and several children.  This was to claim increase or (illegible) of pension of which he had title, signed as follows, John x his mark Carson.
Now I would like to have photostat copy of same, and shall send required amount to cover all. Please let me know.
Respt. your. Mrs. Thos O. Lines Neodesha, Kans.
(stamp) PENSION OFFICE C FEB 25 1926

(handwritten note in margin) I went through every Carson claim  and there is no such papers in any of them. In the claim of Walter Carson S32165 - a Gen. John Carson testified on 1833 was Walter's service.
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607 Main St.
Phone 5396
Thos. O. Lines
DEALER IN HARDWARE, IMPLEMENTS, BUGGIES, WAGONS, ETC. AUTO ACCESSORIES AND TRACTORS
Neodesha, Kansas, March 1 - 1926
Commissioner of Pensions -
Dear Sir - I fear my letter was a bit confusing to you in regards to Andrew Carson who died in McDowell Co. and had a son John.  I shall send a copy of the letter rec'd from a friend on Feb-18-1926, and think perhaps it will aid you in locating this Andrew Carson of whom I am interested. It reads as follows -
"I'm looking over a copy of Andrew Carson's application for pension in 1890 - I find the following postscript which may be of interest to you.  "There is an affidavit on John Carson

(rectangular shaped stamp) FINANCE DIVISION MAR 5 1926 BUREAU OF PENSIONS
(circular shaped stamp) PENSION OFFICE R U.S. R MAR 4 1926
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607 Main St.
Phone 5396
Thos. O. Lines
DEALER IN HARDWARE, IMPLEMENTS, BUGGIES, WAGONS, ETC. AUTO ACCESSORIES AND TRACTORS
Neodesha, Kansas, 
of McDowell Co. N.C. dated in June 1858 who testified that he was a son of Andrew Carson, a Revolutionary soldier who died in said County (no date) some years back, leaving a widow and several children.  This was to claim increase or arrears of  pension of which he had tittle "Signature John His x mark Carson"
I am sorry to bother you again with this matter, but I am very anxious for the information, in case it can be located. 
I shall inclose funds to cover three pages of photostat copy, and shall be glad to send sufficient to cover as many pages as it might contain. Thanking you for your bother I am as ever Mrs. Thos O Lines, Neodesha Kans

(rectangular shaped stamp) FINANCE DIVISION BUREAU OF PENSIONS MAR 5 1926
(circular shaped stamp) PENSION OFFICE R U. S. MAR 4 1926
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3-2233 113
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
Finance Division
March 5, 1926
Chief Rev. Sect. Division (crossed out)
I have this day received from Mrs. Thomas O. Lines postage stamps in the amount of $ 45/100 requesting photostat copy }as per letter herewith.
(handwritten notation) 45 cts in stamps returned & Finance Div notf.
aws 
Mar.9.1926
C. J. RANDALL
Chief Finance Div. 
HOL
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section
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November 26, 1925

Mrs. Paul A. Klayder
617 Indiana
Neosesha, Kans.

Madam:
I have to advice you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 8173 it appears that Andrew Carson was born March 1, 1756 in Rowan County, North Carolina
While living on the Catawba in that part of Rowan County, which was later Iredell County, North Carolina, he volunteered in the fall of 1775 and served at various times during the years 1775, 1776, 1778, 1779, 1781, and 1782, about twenty-one months in all, as a private, except when otherwise stated, under Captains  Joseph Dixon, David Caldwell, John Read, John Graham, and Colonels Mabin, Lewis and Peasley in the North Carolina Troops, was in an engagement with the Tories at Ninety Six in 1775, in a battle with the Cherokee Indians on the Tennessee River in 1776, battle of Brier Creek, and at the battle of Shallow Ford on the Yadkin River he was a Captain in command of fifty-
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two men under General Davidson.
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 22, 1832 while a resident of Iredell County, North Carolina. 
There is no data on file as to his family.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.

Date of death not on ab -
He did not say he serv. under Lt. Elsbury -

This man was not in S. C. Troops he joined Wade Hampton who commanded companies from both states where the occasion required
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
March 26, 1926.
Mrs. Thos O. Lines,
607 Main St.
Neodesha, Kans.
Madam:
In response to your letter of the 22” instant, I have to advise you, that another careful search of the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 8173, of Andrew Carson of North Carolina, (the only pensioner of that name found on said records) fails to show any affidavit executed in the year 1858, by anyone at all, on file in that claim.
Herewith is returned the statement of Colonel Calvin D. Cowles, dated March 15, 1926, relative to this claim and the alleged affidavit. You will note that he states that “The original papers are now in my possession”. The original declaration referred to by him, dated August 22, 1832, is now on file in the above notes pension claim.
Inasmuch as he does not five you a copy of the affidavit but a note in regard to it, it is suggested that  you apply to him for a full copy of the original affidavit which he states is in this possession.
Respectfully, 
WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner

[handwritten notation in the margin] Abt. Mar. 26. 1926. I am very sure that Col. Cowles is President Roosevelt's brother-in-law. There is no memorandum in the claim as to the copies sent here on Mar. 26 or Apr 19 1890 by Mr. Prior. (the clerk who the had charge of three Rev War claims and it is known that original papers as late as (over)
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1890 were sometimes taken from the claims and were given to people. This might explain the absence of the affidavit of 1858 & the supplemental declaration referred to 1836. I only offer this as a suggestion for future use in this matter aw

There is no such affidavit with any Rev War claim of any Carson at all I have gone thro them aw
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
March 9, 1926.
Mrs. Thomas O. Lines,
607 Main St.
Neodesha, Kans.
Madam: 
In response to your letter of the first instant, I have to advise you, that a careful search of the records of this Bureau fails to show a claim for pension on file for a soldier names Andrew Carson who served at any time between 1775 and 1861, that contains an affidavit executed in June 1858, by a John Carson of McDowell County, North Carolina, stating that he was the son of Andrew Carson a soldier of the Revolution etc.
Please furnish in addition to the full name of the soldier in whose claim said affidavit was seen, the name of the war in which he participated, or period of his service, the name of the organization in which he served and the number of his pension claim, in order that a proper search of the records be made in your behalf.
Herewith are returned your forty-five cents in stamps.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner.

I searched Rev, 1812, Mex, Indi, Old War. & Navy & no such aff in any Andrew Carson. aw
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
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January 19, 1929

Mrs. Leonard Roberts
Care Key City Book Store
Harriman, Tennessee

Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 8173, it appears that Andrew Carson was born March 1, 1756 in Rowan County, North Carolina
While living on the Catawba in that part of Rowan County, which was later Iredell County, North Carolina, he volunteered in the fall of 1775 and served at various times during the years 1775, 1776, 1778, 1779, 1781, and 1782, about twenty-one months in all, as a private, except when otherwise stated, under Captains Joseph Dixon, David Caldwell, John Read, John Graham, and Colonels Mabin, Lewis and Peasley in the North Carolina Troops, was in an engagement with the Tories at Ninety Six in 1775, in a battle with the Cherokee Indians on the Tennessee River in 1776, battle of Brier Creek, and at the battle of Shallow Ford on the Yadkin River he was a Captain in command of fifty-two men under General Davidson.
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He was allowed pension on his application execute August 22, 1832, while a resident of Iredell County,  North Carolina.
There are no data as to his family.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner.
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
of Nov. 8, 1925

August 8, 1928
Mrs. C. R. Bennett
Hartford
Kentucky

Madam:
I advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 8173, it appears that Andrew Carson was born March 1, 1756 in Rowan County, North Carolina
While living on the Catawba in that part of Rowan County, which was later Iredell County, North Carolina, he volunteered in the fall of 1775 and served at various times during the years 1775, 1776, 1778, 1779, 1781, and 1782, about twenty-one months in all, as a private, except when otherwise stated, under Captains Joseph Dixon, David Caldwell, John Read, John Graham, and Colonels Mabin, Lewis and Peasley in the North Carolina Troops, was in an engagement with the Tories at Ninety Six in 1775, in a battle with the Cherokee Indians on the Tennessee River in 1776, battle of Brier Creek, and at the battle of Shallow Ford on the Yadkin River which he was a Captain in command of fifty-two men under General Davidson.
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 22, 1832, while a resident of Iredell County, North Carolina.
Respectfully, 
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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[letterhead] 607 Main St. Phone 539
Thos. O. Lines
DEALER IN HARDWARE, IMPLEMENTS, BUGGIES, WAGONS, ETC. AUTO ACCESSORIES AND TRACTORS
Neodesha, Kansas, March 22 1926
Interior Bureau of Pensions -
Dear Sir -
At your request I am sending you all the information I have been able to obtain hoping it may aid you in locating the required information.
Respectfully yours,
Mrs. Thos O. Line
Neodesha
Kansas.
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This is a copy of the paper belonging to Mrs. T. O Lines, which she sent in with her letter of March 22, 1926, and which she requested should be returned to her. Said letter was returned with the Bureau letter of March 27, 1926.

I.N.P.Exr. (Copy)
" Old War Div. No----- Co.-- Regt.---Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C. March 25, 1890.

Sir, 
In accordance with  your personal request you will receive herewith enclosed, a statement, on separate sheet of so much history of Andrew Carson, a Revolutionary soldier from  North Carolina, as is contained in his application for pension, 
Very respectfully, Green B. Raum, Commissioner.

Mr. Calvin D. Cowles,
U.S. Army, 
War Records, 20th & G. Sts.
Present.

The application for pension referred to above was that of Andrew Carson of Iredell County, N. C. Dated August 22, 1832. He was pensioned.
Following the copy of his application appears this note; "There is an affidavit of John Carson of McDowell County, N. C. dated in June 1858 who testified that he was son of Andrew Carson, a Revolutionary soldier who died in said county, (no date) some years back leaving a widow and several children. This was to claim increase of arrears of pension of which he had title. 
signed as follows John his X mark Criham, (?)

The original; papers are now in my possession - 
(signed.) Calvin D. Cowles, Col. U. S. Army, Retired. Harford, Conn. March 15, 1926

awd Mar.26.1926. original returned to Mrs. Lines
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This is a copy of a letter, which Mrs. Lines requested be returned to her.
Highland Court Hotel, 
Hartford, Conn.
March 15, 1926.

My dear Mrs. Lines:
I inclose a copy of all the information I have on Andrew and John Carson of McDowell C. N. C. 
I have copied the signature to John Carson's affidavit as near as I could make it out. I never noticed before how it was written but supposed it was plain Carson, I dont understand it but it may represent what the copyist made of it. John says he was a son of Andrew Carson and he must have signed his affidavit by mark and is not responsible for the spelling of his name.
You are at liberty to use this information in any way you wish.
Very truly yours, Calvin D. Cowles. Your two letters from the Pension Office are returned herein, C.

If you have not already done so, you might write to the Clerk of McDowell Co. N. C. for copies of Andrew and John Carson's Wills, if they left any and for the vital records of their families, sometimes the Land Records yield valuable data - C. D. C. 
Also church and Cemetery records - They were probably Presbyterians. Their widows may have left wills.

(handwritten notation) awd Mar. 26.1926 Original returned to Mrs. Lines

 I dont und
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
February 26, 1926
Mrs. Thomas O. Lines,
607 Main St.
Neodesha, Kans.
Madam:
In response to your letter of the twenty-first instant, I have to advise you, that there is no such paper on file in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 8173, of Andrew Carson of Rowan and Iredell Counties, North Carolina, as stated by you; namely, an affidavit from John Carson of McDowell County, North Carolina, executed in June 1856, stating that he was son of the soldier, etc.
If you desire any further investigation in this Bureau, relative to that paper, you are requested to state when and how you obtained your information, giving the name of the office which furnished it, or the name of the person who so advised you.
There is no data on file as to family in the pension claim or Andrew Carson, S. 8173.
You were advised on  January 8, 1926, as to the cost of photostat copies of papers in said claim.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.

[notation handwritten in margin] I think someone must have seen the claim here & [illegible] written to the General Accounting Office for payment or death but there is no proof that this was done aw.
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
January 8, 1926.
Mrs. Thomas O. Lines,
822 Osage St.
Neodesha, Kans.
Madam:
I have to advise you, that the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau fail to afford any information in regard to an Andrew Carson who lived in Lincoln Co., N. C. If you desire photostat copies of the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 8173, of Andrew Carson of Rowan and Iredell Counties, N. C. the same will be furnished you, at the rate of fifteen cents a page, with twenty-five cents extra for certification, if that is desired. This number of pages to be copied is seven.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this Bureau by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.

[notation handwritten] If paid for copy his ap. of Aug 22, 1832 = 4 pages –
Witnesses & court citf of “  “  “  = 2                     ‘
& page with 3. citfs on it = 1 “
7 “