Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 3,372, Lyddal Estes, Va.
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(3 - 1776 )
SERVICE
Va.
Estes, Lyddal

NUMBER
R. 3,372

CONTENTS
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3372
Petition and Proclamation of
Lyddal Estes
of [illegible] County Ga
for a Pension,
Georgia
Act 1832

J.E. Dow
Present
July 12 43
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State of Georgia Inferior Court of Troup County
County of Troup  State of Georgia June Term
1843, Present their Honors
James M. Beall Daniel Ware, John Greer
and John Douglas. Justices of said Court.
On this the 21st day of June in the year
of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and
forty three, personally appeared in open Court
before the Inferior Court of Troup County in the
State of Georgia, now setting Lyddal Estes 
a resident of the County of Troup and State of Georgia aged Eighty years. who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath makes the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.to wit.  1st. That he volunteered and entered the service of the United States as a private in the month ofJuly 1780 and was regularly discharged in the month of March 1781. That he volunteered under the command of Captain George Harstone in the County of Henry
and State of Virginia, and that said Company
was attached to the Regiment commanded by Colonel Abraham Penn, which was commonly known as Penns Mountain Volunteers of Henry County in the State of Virginia.
2nd That he was stationed at Henry Court House in the State of Virginia, for the purpose of guarding and protecting the magazines as also to guard Prisoners of war, and to do and performing act in relation to the service of the United States
and for the protection and defense thereof

Over
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3rd That this claimant was frequently engaged
for the purpose of carrying exprenses, and that Officers
General Green and Morgan, are known to this
claimant as also Colonel Washington together
with many other officers inferior in grade to the
officers mentioned above.
4th Colonel Penns Regiment to which I was
attached marched in the month of February in
1781. from Henry Court House Virginia to
John General Green Ammand at Guilford Court House
a few days after the battle at Guilford Court House
in the month of March 1781, and that he has
no documentary evidence, and that he knows
of no person now living whose testimony he
can procure who can testify to his service

5th He hereby relinquishes every claim
whatsoever to a pension or annuity except
the present.
Sworn to and Subscribed 
in open Court this the 21st 
day of June 1843.
Signed Lyddall Estes

Attest
Signed Jas M Beall 
[illegible] Chairman
In Witness Whereof, I John E Gillespie
Clerk of said Court have hereunto
set my hand and seal of office
this the 21st day of June 1843.
John E. Gillespie C.I.C
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State of Georgia} We John Motly and Levi
County of Troup} Geer, residing in the County of Troup and State of Georgia, hereby Certify that we are well acquainted with Lyddal Estes, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, and we believe him to be eighty years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we Concur in that opinion.
Sworn to and Subscribed}
before me this the 21st day} Signed. John Motly
of June 1843.} and Levi Geer.
Signed Jas. M. Beall. J.I.C.
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the Interrogatories prescribed by the War Department and which is hereunto annexed that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier, and served as he States - And the Court further Certifies that it appears to them that John Motly who has signed the preceeding Certificate resides in the County of Troup and State of Georgia, and that Levi Geer who has also signed the same is a resident of the County Troup and State of Georgia, that they are Creditable persons; and that their statement is entitled to Credit. - And that Lyddal Estes the applicant states he is unable to procure the testimony of a clergyman who is acquainted with him sufficiently.
Witness the Honorable James M. Beall, one of the Justices of.
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Said Court this the 21st day of June 1843.
James. M. Beall J.I.C.

I John E Gillespie clerk of the Inferior Court of the County of Troup and State of Georgia do hereby Certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court. in the matter of the application of Lyddal Estes for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office this the 21st day of June 1843.

John E. Gillespie C.I.C.
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State of Georgia} Troup County Inferior Court
County of Troup} June Term 1843. Present their Honors, Jas M Beall, Daniel Ware, John Greer, and John Douglass Justices of said Court.
Depositions
of Lyddal Estes taken in open Court in Relation to his claim for a pension.

- Intg 1st, Where? and in what year were you born?
To the 1st Intg. he answers, he was born in Amelia County Virginia, in the year 1763.

- Intg. 2nd Have you any record of your age? if so where is it?
to the 2 Intg. he answers, I have, and in my possession.

- Intg 3rd. Where were you living when called into service? Where have you lived since the Revolutionary War? And where do you now live?
to the 3 Intg he answers, In Henry County Virginia in North Carolina ~ part in South Carolina and now in Troup County Georgia.

- Intg 4th, How were you called into Service? Were you drafted? did you volunteer? or were you a substitute? and if a substitute for whom?
to the 4th intg he answers, I volunteered. I was not drafted ~ I did volunteer. I was not.
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a substitute for any one.

July 5 State the names of some of the Regiments
who were with the troops where you served? Such
Continental and Militia Regiments as you can
recollect, and the General circumstances of
Your Service,
To the 5th he answers, the name of the
officers. I served under was Captain George Harstone  and 
Col Abraham Penn - it was known as Penn
Mounted Regiment marched in order to Join General Green - but did not effect it.  I was in Guilford
at the time of the battle but was not in the
battle. Entry 6 Did you ever receive a discharge
from the service, and if so by whom was it given
and what has become of it
to the City, he answers - I received from
Colonel Abraham Penn a certificate in the
following words. This is to certify that Goddal
Ester Served under me. Abram Penn Colonel
and George Harston Captain Revolutionary War
1781- which is in my possession at this time,
Entry 7 State the names of persons to whom
you are known in your present neighborhood
and who can testify as to your character for
Veracity, and their belief of your services as a
soldier of the Revolution
to the 7th Entry he answers Chisholm Johnson.
Willis Wharley, John Henderson, John Wilkes
reside in my neighborhood, and to whom I am
known, and will testify as to my character,
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for veracity. &. they believe me to be a soldier of the Revolution.
Signed. Lyddal Estes.
Sworn to and subscribed
in open Court Witness the Honorable James M Beall one of the Justices of said Court, this the 21st day of June. 1843.
James. M. Beall J.I.C.

I, John E. Gillespie Clerk of the Inferior Court of the County of Troup and State of Georgia, do hereby certify that the foregoing depositions of Lyddal Estes Contain the original proceedings of said Court, in relation to the claim of said Estes for a pension.
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this the 21st day of June 1843.

John E. Gillespie C.I.C.
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[illegible] and 1618
Wars Section
AWF/eel

January 25, 1929

Mrs. F. Lee Bivings
1115 Ponce De Leon Avenue
Atlanta, Georgia

Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, R.3372, it appears that Lyddal Estes was born in 1765 in Amelia County, Virginia.
He applied for pension April 13, 1843, at which time he was living in Troup County, Georgia, and alleged that while residing in Henry County, Virginia, he volunteered in July, 1780, as a private under Captain George Hartstone and was attached to Colonel Abram Penn's Mountain Volunteers of Henry County, Virginia, where he guarded and protected the magazines and prisoners of war and carrier expresses until February, 1781, when he went with the regiment to join General Green's Army and was discharged in March, 1781. 
His claim was not allowed as he failed to prove six months service in an embodied military corps as required by the pension law under which he applied.
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His widow, Martha, was a resident of Troup County, Georgia, in 1851.
There are no further data as to family.

Respecfully,

Winfield Scott
Commissioner
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Va

Mr Lumpkin
No Dead yr tht
handed by Com
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Please copy the petition of Lyddal Estes & the objection & send them to me at Mr. Stuarts & oblige
Stu Harralson
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Dec 3/44
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Pension Office 32
Dec 3 1849

Sir,

I reply to your letter of the 22 [illegible] in the case of Lydal Estes. I have to state that the letter from this office of the 10th August 1843, a copy of which is herewith enclosed will show the objections to the claim.

C.W. Mabry [illegible]
Franklin
Heard County
Geo cl
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Franklin, Heard County, Ga
November 22 1849

Dear Sir,

i have been employed by a Mr. Lydal Estes of [illegible] County Georgia to procure his pension which he claims under the pension act of June 7th 1832.
his claim has been pending some time. I have a letter from you of the 29th of July 1845 stating that "the papers in support of (his) claim to a pension under the act of June 7 1832 were on file." I wish to know what [illegible] then has been made of his application. He claims to have served in Capt. George Harstone army [illegible]. Abraham Penn's Regiment of Mountain Voluntary.
He entered the service in July 1780 and was discharged in March 1781.
any information in relation to the above inquiry will be thankfully received. I am very Respectfully yours [illegible]
C.W. Mabry

J.L. Edwards
Com Pin Officer
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Charles M Smith [illegible]
May 11 1843
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Pen Off
May 11th 43

Sir
The claim of Lyddall Estes has been examined & disallowed - He alleges but one term of service in the sd Militia whose tours were limited to & never exceeded 2 months and that in which he was engaged in March 1781 under capt. Hairston & Col. Penn is known to have been short of that limitation - As the act of 7. June 32 does not provide for less than 6 mo service in the agregate, he is not entitled ~

Mister Charles M. Smith & Co
Houston
Heard Co
Ga
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Lastrange Geo.
July 23/45

Lydal Estes
Send Col. Pittman all his pension papers
E 81. Mc hily 28/40
Pension Office

Lydal Estes
Eco Prv -
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La Grange.. Ga. 23 July 45

Sir
Be pleased to send to Col Pittman at Houston, Heard Co Ga, all the proceedings on file in your office in relation to my claim for a Pension, or it may be the case that the papers are in the office of the Committee in Pensions where the matter was before last session.
Very Respectfully
Yr Obt Servt
Lydal Estes.
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H H A Haralson
Feb 8 1844
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Pension Office,
feb 8. 1844

Sir,
Agreeably to your request I enclose herewith Certified Copies of the papers of Lyddal Estes, accompanied by a Copy of my letter of the 10th of August last to Mr. J. E. Dow which will show why the claim has not been admitted on the proof exhibited.

Hn. H. A. Haralson
HR

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No 35501, Geo 32
Suspd
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Pension Office
July 29. 1845.

Sir,
In answer to your letter of the 23d inst to the Secretary of War, I have to inform you that the papers in support of your claim to a pension under the Act of June 7. 1832 are on our file, but they cannot be sent there from [illegible] with the rules of this Office. Certified Copies of them were furnished the Hn H. A. Haralson, at his request, on the 8th of February 1844.

Mr. Lydal Estes
La Grange,
Georgia.

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35501. Geo
Ga - 32
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V. I. M.
Rev. War Section.

September 14, 1917.

Mrs. Z. E. Templeton,
221 South Franklin Avenue,
Salem, Illinois.
Madam:
In response to your letter dated the 10" instant, you are advised that it is alleged in the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim of Lyddal Estes, R. File No. 3,372, that he was born in 1763, in Amelia County Virginia, and while residing in Henry County, Virginia, volunteered in July 1780, as a Private under Captain George Harstone and was attached to Colonel Abram Penn's Mountain Volunteers of Henry County Virginia, where he guarded and protected the magazines and prisoners of war and carried expresses until February 1781, when he went with the Regiment to join General Green's Army, and was discharged in March 1781.
He applied for pension April 13, 1843, while a resident of Troup County, Georgia, but his claim was not allowed as he failed to prove 6 months service in an embodied corps in the field, as required by the Act of June 7, 1832, under which he applied.
His widow, Martha, was a resident of Troup County,
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Georgia in 1851.
There are no other data on file as to his family, and no other soldier of this name found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau.
Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.
Lyddal Estes ( 2 )
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1115 Ponce De Leon Ave
Atlanta, Ga.

Pension Bureau
Washington, D.C.

Kindly give me any information or records regarding the Estes activities in the Revolutionary War. My maternal grandfather was Lyddall Bacon Estes. His grandfather was Benjamin Estes. Born Jan 1st 1736.
Any information you may give me will be greatly appreciated.
Very Sincerely
Mrs. F. Lee Bivings
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REJECTED
3372.
P.O.:
Lyddal Estes
Service: Soldier Ga

Enlisted: _________, 18
Discharged: _________, 18
Application filed: _________, 18
Alleges:
Re-enlisted:
Attorney:
P.O.:
_______ Recognized. _______ Cont
______ Cert of Dis. Searched for ______, 18
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1890
March 17 - M S. Rounds - history - Prior
1917 Sept. 14 Hist to Z. E. Templeton
Letter in S. F. 4061 Aaron Reynolds
1929 - Jan. 25 - Hist to Mrs. F. Lee Bivings AWF.
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Troup County Geo 26 April 1843.
Hon. Secretary of War
Dear Sir.
We enclose herein the petition and affidavit of our aged fellow citizen and soldier Lyddal Estes. of the County of Troup who at his advanced age applies to your Department for his pension as a Revolutionary Soldier. there seems to be no doubt but that Mr Estis served in the Battle at Guilford CH N.C. he. now wears the marks of the enemy on his left thigh which is apparent to all and the Community in which he lives are of the opinion that he done the Country efficient Service. his indigent Circumstances and Humb. demand his pension.
We have been entrusted with his business on the matter, and hope the petition and affidavits made by him will Comply with the law, and enable this Dept. to anything to give the papers the necessary [illegible] to authorize the Pension to issue.
We have written our agent J. E. Dow Esqr. upon the subject and have requested him to give the subject such attention before the Departments as he may think advisable.
Your early [illegible] is respectfully [illegible]. at Houston. Heard Co. Geo. which is our address and the nearest P.O. to Mr. Estes.
Respectfully
Yr. Ob. Srvt.
Charles M. Smith
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Lyddal Estes
Ga ry - 1832
___________________
Mr Cole
March 29 1837

[illegible]
April 17 - 57
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Ga Troup Co.
March 15th, 1857

The Commissioner of Pensions
Will please allow A L Gage to examine the papers in file in his office in relation to the application of Lyddal Estes a Revolutionary Soldier for a Pension
Martha Estes
x her mark
Widow of Lyddal Estes deceased
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J E Dow
August 10 1843
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Pension Office
August 10. 1843

Sir,
The declaration of Lyddal Estes, which you lately deposited in this Office, has been examined and filed. In his first declaration he set forth a service of one tour in the Virginia militia, and as that description of force was never in Service for more than three months under one engagement, and as the law under which he claims requires a service of six months, his claim was rejected. He now makes another declaration alleging that he volunteered in July 1780 and was discharged in March 1781. We have no evidence that such service was ever performed. Unless he can produce other proof than his own declaration, the claim cannot be allowed.

J. E. Dow, Esq.
Present
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No. 35,501
act June 7. 1832
Enter this. See Georgia Index
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No 35.501
Lyddal Estes -
Ga
Act 7 June 32 -
did not serve 6 mo.
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Hon. Secretary of War.
War Department
Washington City. DC.
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State of Georgia} Be it known that before
County of Troup} me, William M. Sample, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, Personally appeared Lyddal Estes, a resident of the County of Troup, and State aforesaid aged 80 years, who being first duly Sworn according to law, says that he is the identical Lyddal Estes named in an original Certificate in his possession of which I certify the following is a True Copy To Wit.
This is to Certify that Lyddal Estes served under me Abraham Pen Colonel, and George Harstone Captain in Revolutionary War in 1780.-
And he further swears that the names of the aforesaid officers was attached to said Certificate, and that the said names was detached then from in Consequence of said Certificate having been wet. - And that he is entitled to a Pension from the United States on account of Services rendered to the United States during the Revolutionary War and that he served in Captain George Harstone's Company, and Regiment Commanded by Colonel Abraham Pen. and that said Company Volunteered from the County of Henry in the State of Virginia, and joined General [illegible] Commanded at the Battle at Guilford Court House in the State of North Carolina on and about the 15th of March in the year 1781. And that he now resides in the County of Troup and State of Georgia, and has resided there for the space of five years past.
Sworn to acknowledged and} Lyddal Estes
Subscribed before me this the}
13th day of April 1843.
Wm M. Sample J.P.
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Georgia} I William M. Sample a Justice
Troup County} of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid do hereby Certify that the following is a true Copy of the original Certificate now in the possession of Lyddal Estes, aged 80 years, and the identical person named in the above Petition and affidavit.-
To wit.
(This is to Certify That Lyddal Estes served under Mr. Abraham Pen Colonel and George Harstone Captain, in Revolutionary War in 1781)
And I do further Certify that from the appearance at the bottom of the aforesaid Certificate, that a portion of the same has been lost or mutilated.
Given under my hand and private seal there being no seal of office. This the 13th day of April 1843. Wm M. Sample. J.P.

Clerks office
Inferior Court
Troup County Georgia.
19th April 1843.
I, John E. Gillespie, Clerk of the Inferior Court of the County of Troup and State of Georgia, do certify that William M Sample whose name appears as an attesting Justice of the Peace to the above and foregoing Petition and Certificates is an acting justice of the
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whose name appears as an attesting Justice of the Peace to the above and foregoing Petition and Certificates is an acting justice of the Peace in and for the County of Troup and State of Georgia and that due faith and Credit should be given to his attestations as such.
Given under my hand and seal of office this the 19th day of April 1843.
John E. Gillespie C.I.C.

I John Douglass One of the Justices of the Inferior Court for the County of Troup and State of Georgia do certify that John E. Gillespie whose name appears to the above is Clerk of the Inferior Court for the County of Troup and State of Georgia, is the Clerk of said Court and that due faith and Credit should be given to his attestations as such.
Given under my hand, and Seal this the 19 day of April 1843.
John Douglass J,I,C