Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 25580, John Fisher, N.C. S.C.
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(8-1776)  


    SERVICE                                                           NUMBER 
     
     N. C.                       Fisher, John                    W. 25580
     S. C.                             Lucinda.                     B. L. Wt. 31418-160-55

    Born in Va.

    CONTENTS
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22083              11 April 1839
West Tennessee
 
John Fisher of Warren Co. in the State of Tennessee who was a private in the com commanded by Captain Tush of the regt. commanded by Col Hammond in the S. Carolina line for 18 months.

Inscribed on the Roll of West Tennessee at the rate of 60 Dollars --- Cents per annum
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 2 day of Oct 1833 and Andrew J. Marchbank McMinerilli.

Arrears to the 4th of Sept                  150--
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 March   30--
                                               $180--

 Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.

Recorded by Danl  Boyd   Clerk
Book  E    Vol. 7     Page 78
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5414

Tennessee  N.

Lucinda Fisher widow of John Fisher 
SC who served in the Revolutionary war, as a Private.

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 60 dollars
--- cents per annum, to commence on
the 3d February, 1853.

Certificate of Pension issued 7th day of Augt. 1835 and sent to G G Debrill    Sparta, Ten.

Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
February 3, 1853, Page 181 Vol. A


98023
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198.023    Act 3 Mar. 18--
    3 Aug. " "

Lucinda Fisher Wi  of John Fisher dec.
private

Capt.
Col.
Enl.
Dis.

No 31418 (??)

  Rev. War
Husband was a Pensioner 
Cert. dated 2d Oct. 1833
No. 22.083, which has been filed
in Pension office for a pension

Trey 53 --  5414
AO:160CIG  July 7  '56
ROYALL

GG Dibrell   Atty.  Sparta, Tenn.

Vol F. 53

Dec. 45/ unreadable
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State of Tennessee
DeKalb County 
 On this Seventeenth day of July A D
Eighteen hundred and fifty five 
Lucinda Fisher aged Seventy years a resident of said County personally appeared before the undersigned an acting Justice of the peace in and for said County and made Oath in due form of law that she is the Widow of the identical John Fisher who was a Pensioner of the United States under the act of 7th June 1832 at the rate of sixty dollars per annum and whose pension certificate was dated the second day of October Eighteen hundred and thirty three, Number
Twenty two thousand and eighty three, that her said husband John Fisherdied in the County of Dekalb on the Eleventh day of April Eighteen hundred and thirty seven, and that she has not intermarried since but continues the widow of the above mentioned John Fisher Deceased. This affiant for this states that she was married to the said John Fisher in Warren County Tennessee on the Twenty eighth day of December Eighteen hundred and twenty five by one John Martin an acting Justice of the Peace as will more fully appear by a certified copy of said license hereto (illegible), that her name before said marriage was
Lucinda Tramel. This affiant further declares
that from her bodily infirmity she is unable to
attend Court to make this declaration, she has been confined to her house for upwards of three years and lives about thirteen miles from the Court House and could not without very great inconvenience if not risk of her life be carried to the Court House. She further declares that she has never applied for nor received a pension, and makes this application
for the purpose of obtaining the benefits of the act of Congress of the 3d February 1853.
And hereby
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appoints George G Dibrell of Sparta Tennessee my true and lawful attorney to prosecute my claim for a Pension for proof of her husbands being a pensioner she refers to his Pension Certificate hereto annexed.
her
Lucinda Fisher
mark

Sworn to and Subscribed before me the date first above mentioned and I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with the said Lucinda Fisher & have been for Twenty years and that she is of good repute, and her statements entitled to full faith and credit I further certify that she could not be carried to Court to make her Declaration, without very great inconvenience, she is very
old, and has been confined to her bed for several
years and is now in bed from disease.
I further certify that I have no interest in his claim
whatever. 
David Dunham Clerk
Justice of the Peace

State of Tennessee 
Dekalb County

On this 17th day of July A D 1855 Sarah Bain
aged Seventy five years a resident of said County appeared before the undersigned and made oath in due form of Law that she has been acquainted with John Fisher Deceased and the within mentioned Lucinda Fisher his
Widow for upwards of Thirty years & prior to their marriage, was at their wedding, she further declares that the said John Fisher has been dead for many years, she cannot give the date, but it was long before the year 1853 she
further declares that the said Lucinda Fisher has not married since the death of the said John Fisher, she also declares that the said Lucinda Fisher could not be carried  to the County seat of her county, without very great risk
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of her life. She having been confined to her room
and bed for several years with disease, and is
now in bed sick. She also declares she has no
interest in this claim
Her 
Sarah Bain
mark
Sworn to and subscribed before me date above and I Certify affiant is a creditable Witness
David
Dunham   Clerk
Justice of the Peace
State of Tennessee
Dekalb County

 On this 17 day of July AD 1855 J H
Stanley a resident of said County aged Twenty
nine years, appeared before the undersigned & made oath in due form of Law that he has been personally acquainted with Lucinda Fisher the within applicant for about six
years, that he knows her to be a widow, has always heard that her husband John Fisher was dead and fully believes the report. She has lived in good reports as a widow. He further declares that he is intimately acquainted with
said Lucinda, and is fully satisfied she could not be carried to Court to make her Declaration without very great inconvenience. She having been sick and confined to her room and to her bed from disease nearly the whole time for the last two or three years, she is now
in bed with the same disease and is very feeble and much reduced. He further declares he has no interest in her claim.
J. H. Stanley
Sworn to and subscribed before me the date above and I further certify that the said J H Stanley is a credible witness.
Witness my hand and seal
David Dunham    Clerk
Justice of the peace
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State f Tennessee
Dekalb County
I Washington I. Isbell, clerk of Dekalb County court hereby Certify that David Dunham  Esq
whose genuine signatures appear to the foregoing Declaration and affidavits is now and
was at the time of signing the same an acting Justice of the Peace in deed for the County and State aforesaid duly Commissioned and qualified that all of his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my
hand and affixed its seal of said Court at office
in Smithville the 24th day of July AD 1855
W.I Isball  Clerk,
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198.023

Lucinda Fisher
widow of John Fisher Private in the Revolution
2
Adress
GG Dibrell
Sparta, Tennessee
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State of Tennessee County of Dekalb
On this 17th day of July A D. One thousand
eight hundred and fifty five, personally
appeared before me a Justice of the
peace within and for the County and state
aforesaid, Lucinda Fisher aged Seventy
years, a resident of Dekalb County in
the State of Tennessee who being duly
Sworn according to law declares that she is the widow of John Fisher deceased, who was a private in the Army of the Revolution, as is evidenced by a pension Certificate now in her
possession, in her said husbands aforseen Issued by John Robb acting Secretary of War on the 2nd day of October 1833.  Endorsed, "22083 Recorded in the pension office, in Book E Vol 7 Page 78, by Danl Boyd Clerk.
She further states that she was married
to the said John Fisher in Warren County on the Twenty eighth day of December AD 1825 by one John Martin a Justice of the Peace and that her name before her said marriage was Lucinda Tramell; that her said husband died at Dekalb County Tennessee on the 11th day of April
A.D. 1837 and that she is now a widow 
She makes this declaration for the pur
pose of Obtaining the County land to which
she may be entitled under the act approved March 3 1855. This affiant further
Declares that she has no other evidence of her husbands service in the army, except his Pension Certificate above
referred to which she has filed this day with an application for a Pension. She refers to that certificate and
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to a Certified Copy of her Marriage with said deceased filed in her application for a pension. Affiant further declares that if her husband ever received any land for Military Service she never heard of it. She also declares that she has never applied for nor received any Bounty Land under this or any other act of Congress.
alterations in the name from Lucy to Lucinda made before made before signed
Her
Lucinda
Fisher
mark

We Sarah Bain and J. H. Stanley residents of Dekalb County Tennessee upon our oaths declare that the above Declaration was signed and acknowledged by Lucinda Fisher in our presence and that we believe from
the appearance and statements of the applicant that she is the identical person she represents herself to be. We further declare that she is now a widow, and that John Fisher her husband is reported and believed to be dead, and we have no doubt of its fact. And that we have no interest in this claim, affiant Sarah was present at their marriage.
her
Sarah Bain
mark
JH Stanly
Sworn to and subscribed before me the date above and I hereby certify that I know the claimant to be the person she represents herself to be, and that the Witnesses are credible witnesses, and that I have no
interest in this claim whatever
David Dunham   Clerk
Justice of the Peace
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State of Tennessee
 White County 
I George G Dibrell, clerk of White County
State of Tennessee
Dekalb County
 I Washington J. Isbel Clerk of Dekalb County and
hereby certify that David Dunham Esq whose genuine signature appears to the foregoing affidavits and certificates is now and was at the time of signing the same an acting
Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid duly commissioned and qualified that all of his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit, In Testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my hand and
affixed the seal of said Court of office in
Smithville 24th -- 24th day of July AD 1855
W J. Isbell Clerk
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Return to be made to Andrew J. Marchbanks, McMinnville, Tennesse

Dh. b51.

John Fisher, Warren Co.
from 1776 private 18 Months $60

Tush 
Newmans, S.C. 

Andrew J. Marchbank
McMinnville, Tennesse
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[ State of Tennessee
Warren County]
On this the 2nd day of July A.D. 1833 personally appeared in open Court before Mr. William Mc Gregger , Samuel Denby and Aron Higginbotham Esqs and presiding Justices
of the Warren County Court now in session, John Fisher a resident in the County and State aforesaid and aged Seventy six years who
being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress
passed the 7th day of June 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officer and served as has stated. In the latter part of the year of 1776 or the first of 1777 as he now recollects, he entered the service as a volunteer  for four [underscored] months. He volunteered in Rutherford County State of North Carolina the Company to which he attached himself was commanded by Captain Jones, he thinks his given name was James.  He does not recollect the names of the Lieutenant or Ensign of the Company. He was mustered into the service at Mc Fadgin's fort Rutherford County North Carolina, and attached to a Regiment commanded
by Col. William Graham, alias, Gaines. 
  This regiment was stationed
at Mc Fadgin's fort for the purpose of ranging the Country and thereby to defend the defenseless Citizens from the attacks and incursions of the Tories and Indians who at that time concealed themselves in the White oak &
Green River Mountains and wherever a favorable opportunity would present itself would attack & butcher the unsuspecting inhabitants whilst thus employed he was sent by Col Graham to a little Town called Gilbert for some beef Cattle. On his way he came across a Tory who had been with the Indians, he attacked, took and safely conducted him back to the fort. Applicant was thus employed for four months, at the expiration of which time he was discharged at Mc Fadgin's fort in writing by Col Graham he then returned to his
residence which was in the same County.
In 1780 or 1779. at least about two months before the battle at Kings Mountain he again entered the service of the United States he volunteered in Rutherford County North Carolina for Ten Months [underscored. He was marched by Ensign William Thompson to a place called Liberty hills above Cambell Town in South Carolina, he was then attached to Captain Pitts Company whose Christian name he does not at present renumber. Heads with his company attached to a Regiment of Cavalry Commanded by Col Leroy Hammons and was constantly employed as a ranger in North and South Carolina, during this Term of since he
and eight or nine others were sent into Rutherford County North Carolina in a ranging expedition, to their surprise Col Furguson was in that County with his army of British, the first indication that they received of that fact was from the actual from the actual presence of a Company of British and Tories. When they made their appearance applicant was a short distance from the balance of his company.
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The British and tories attacked and took him,  the balance of his  company being some distance off make their escape for that time, but were all captured  the succeding night  and were all conducted to Ferguson's Camp with  applicant which was at the upper  end of Rutherford County  N.C. the company of British and Tories who took this applicant were commanded by a Captain Lusk the day after applicant  and his companions were taken to the  British camp Col. Ferguson marched with his army towards the Kings Mountain and carried applicant and the other prisoners along  in crossing the mountain Ferguson was attacked by Americans  commanded by  Col. Lewis Campell  and  others who attacked  and capture his entire forces by which means applicant  again got  into the  American Army. Applicant after the defeat of Ferguson was  immediately  sent with his brother Rangers to the  Maravian Town which he thinks was in North Carolina  when taken a prisoner his ensign  Thompson  was with him at least  with those who were taken the night after he was and was also taken and when released by the Americans  Thompson  was also sent to  Maravian  Town after they remained at the Moravian  Town a few days . Captain  Whiteside  who commanded there sent them to Col. Hammon's  Regiment of Rangers at the Liberty Hills where  he resumed and continued his former employment  until his term of service expired when he was discharged at the Liberty Hills by Captain  Tutts  in writing . He then again went home which was still in the same County  (Rutherford ) and in a few days after returned  to the Liberty Hills , and then and there enlisted for the term of three years or during the war he was attached to the same company  Regiments and  had the same officers  and remained at the same place and employed in and performed the same services ( that is Rangering )  he was then  employed for four months it may have been a few  days  over or under he feels satisfied that it was that long  during  which time  Cornwallis  surrendered and he was  in a short time thereafter discharged in writing at the Liberty Hills , but he does not recollect whether  the discharge was given by  Col. Hammons or Capt. Tutts. This ended his military service . He served  in all eighteen months. [underscored]. Applicant has a son killed in the Battle at New Orleans . Answers to the sworn Interrogatories prescribed by the War Department . 1st - He was born the 11th day of September  1756  in the County of Halifax State of Virginia.  2nd- He has a record of his age it is in his family Bible . 3rd -When called into the service  he lived in Rutherford  County North Carolina  previous to which his father removed from Halifax  ,Va.  to  Orange from there to Lincoln and from there to  Rutherford County  North Carolina  on the first Broad River . Since the Revolution he lived in Rutherford until about twenty  years ago  at the expiration of which time he  moved to  his former Warren County  State of Tennessee where he yet lives and  has ever since he come
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from Rutherford. 4th. He always volunteered into the service he was never drafted  or a substitute. 5th.  During the time he was in the service he was once with General Morgan's Army he saw General Washington  and Greene, also Cols. Washington and Sevier. He received compensation  for the four months tour he served but not for  others. The battle at Eutaw Springs took place during his service the most of his regiment was engaged in it  and some of them were killed -. He has so near as to hear the report of the guns but being wounded from the fall from a horse was not able to be there. General Greene commanded the  Americans and Col. Stuart  the British. 6th . He received written discharges for each and every  tour he served the discharge for the first  and four months tour  was given to him by  Col. Grimes at Mc Fadgin's fort . For the service and ten months  tour it was given to him by Captain Tutts at the Liberty Hills, and for the last  four months he served it was given to him at the Liberty Hills but by what officer he does not recollect they were all in writing  he kept them for several years but they are  now lost where ever or when he does not know. 7th. He is acquainted with Thomas Clack a Clergyman  , Harold Byers,  William Dunam, Captain Jesse Gibbs , John B. Webb Esq.,  Joseph Bankhorn and others all of them were live in his present neighborhood  and many of  them for twenty years he thinks all or any of them will testify to his character for veracity and of their belief of his service as a soldier of the  revolution. Applicant's  mind is some what  erratic by old age tho' not  more than usual  with some of his age He tho' is satisfied  that then all  .. ( illegible ) incidents of his service that he does not recollect particularly the officers and soldiers of the Regular army. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the roll of any State or the Agency thereof. He has no documentary evidence of his services or does he know of any person living whose testimony he can procure to testify to his services.   John Fisher ( signed ) Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid  in open Court  . Jas Colville clk by L. Colville ( signed ) DC  I .Thomas Clack a clergyman in the County of Warren aforesaid  and in the same neighborhood with John Fisher  the above applicant  & Harold Byers of the same residence  hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Fisher  who has signed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him  to ne seventy six years old that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution  and that we concur in that opin-.
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ion. We have known him for many years  and his character  for truth is as good as any mans. Sworn to and subscribed  in open Court  the day and year aforesaid  Jos Colville clk by L Colville ( signed ) Thomas Clack ( his mark ) Harold Byers ( signed )   And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion of the matter  and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named  applicant was a soldier of the revolution and served as he states . And the Court further certifies that  it appears to them that Thomas Clack  who signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman  residing in the County of  Warren   in the same neighborhood with the  above named applicant. and  that  Harold Byers who has also signed the same is a resident of the same  County , State  and neighborhood and that their statement is entitled to credit . Samuel  Denby ( signed ) ,A. Higgenbotham ( signed )  ,Wm Mc Gregor ( signed )  I, Joseph Colville clerk of the County Court of  warren County  do hereby certify that the foregoing  contains the original proceedings of  the said Court in the matter of the application of John Fisher for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and  private seal  there being no seal of office  yet provides for said Court. this the  __ day of July A.D. 1833. Jos Colville Clerk By L. Colville ( signed ) DC Sealed  I Jacob C. Isacks  do hereby certify that I know the above named Joseph Colville is clerk of the aforesaid Court that Lusk Colville is his deputy  that the above certificate is signed by  the latter as I believe  whos hand writing I am acquainted with. I also believe there is no seal of office to said Court , I am acquainted with the applicant   John Fisher  and believe his character for veracity is good. J.C. Isacks ( signed ) Return to be made to Andrew J Marchbanks  McMinnville Tennessee  ( vertical on bottom of page ) (  26.651 John Fisher   Warren Col from 1776 to  private  18 months . $ 60  Just Hammond S.C.   Andrew J Marchbanks  McMinnville Ten
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address
G.G. Dibrell
Sparta, Tennessee
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[ State of Tennessee Warren County ] To any regular minster of the Gospel having the care of such or any  Justice of the Peace  these are to authorize you  or  either of you to solemnize the  Rites of matrimony  between John Fisher and Lucinda Tramel of your County agreeably to the direction of an act of assembly in such case made & provided, provided always  the said Lucinda Tramel be an actual resident in this County  otherwise these shall be  null and void and shall not  be accounted any liens or authority to you or either of you  for the purpose aforesaid  more than  though the same had never been prayed  or granted etc. Given at , the clerk's office of said County   Court  this 28th day of December 1825.  Jos Colville Clerk  By L. C. Colville  D.C.  Debr. 28th that course to hand and executed by me . John Martin  ( signed ) Justice of peace  [ State of Tennessee Warren County ] I Richmond McGregor clerk of the County Court of said County do hereby certify that the foregoing  marriage license  & solemnization is a true copy of the original as is in file in my office. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set  my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at office in  McMinnville this 14th day July 1855. R. McGregor ( signed / sealed ) clk
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REV. & 1812 Wars Section.
ADY

September 1, 1929. 


Mrs. John Eldridge Bentley, 
McMinnville,
Tennessee.

Dear Madam:

I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 25580, it appears that John Fisher was born September 11, 1756, in Halifax County, Virginia. He moved with his father (name not given) to Orange County, from there to Lincoln county and from there to Rutherford County, North Carolina.

While a resident of Rutherford County, North 
Carolina, he enlisted and served as a private as follows:
From late in 1776, or early in 1777, four months in
Captain James (?) Jones' Oompany in Colonel William Graham's North Carolina Regiment; fron some time in 1780, about two months before the battle of King's Mountain, 
ten months in Captain Tutt's Company in Colonel LeRoy Hamnond's South Carolina Regiment, he was taken prisoner by Ferguson but made his escape when the latter was de feated at King' Mountain and soon rejoined Captain Tutt's
Company and Colonel Hammond's Regiment. A few days after
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his return home, he enlisted and served four months in Captain Tutt's Company in Colonel LeRoy Hammond's South Carolina Regiment.

He was allowed pension on his application executed July 2, 1833, at which time he was living in Warren
County, Tennessee.

He died April 11, 1837, in DeKalb County, Tennessee.

The soldier married December 28, 1825, in Warren
County, Tennessee, Lucinda Tramel.

She was allowed pension on her application executed July 17, 1855, at which time she was living in DeKalb
County, Tennessee, aged seventy years.

The soldier's son, name not given, was killed at the
battle of New Orleans.

There are no further data relative to family.

Very truly yours,


E. W. MORGAN，
Acting Commissioner.
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1922 Jan'y 24 Hist. to Dr. W.W. Potter

1929 Aug. 12. Hist. to Mrs. John Randall Aust 
MCS
1929 Sept. 12 Hist to Mrs. John Eldridge Bentley, A.D.Y.
1929 Oct 16 - Mrs. J.E. Bentley further add. rel.is date concerning widow.
1936 Mar 20  Mrs. N.H. Moore inf. no data to clarify ambiguous statements contained in letter per Mrs. John Randall.     M.C.

Reg  WIDOW, &c.
File No.  25,580
Lucinda Fisher
Wid. of 
John Fisher
Priv. Rev. War

Act Feb 3rd 1853
Index:  Vol A,   Page 239
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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31.418

160 acres
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No such officer in Texas you will please put the county on your letters if you wish them to go safe. Then an thousand of your documents that never named their destination on that [illegible] so you sir must file of being particular.
Department of the Interior,
 Pension Office, Official Business
J. Minot

GG Debrill
Sparta, Texas

3431418 Hor
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Postal Stamp - Sparta  Tenn July 26

John Fisher 
Ten--- @ 1832

Triplett

Hon. L.P. Waldo
Com. of Pensions
Washington City
D.C.
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Pen Off.  Aug 3 1833
Sir
Please state when John Fisher of Tenn Abt. 1832 at $60 a year was last paid

Very Respectfully J. Minot
Comm.

R.J. Atkinson Esq
& Auditor
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John Fisher paid to 4 Mar 1837

WA Taylor
Acting Auditor

Aug 6/55
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Lucinda Fisher
Widow of John Fisher
Tenn
Adm. Feby 3 1833
18 mos pn in $60 per annum from 
Feby 1863
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198.023
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Sparta Tennessee  26th July 1855 Hon L. P. Waldo  Com. of Pensions  Sir You will please find enclosed declaration of Lucinda Fisher  for a Pension under act of 3rd Feby 1853 from her declaration, the affidavit of the two witnesses and the Justices certificate  you will see she could not go to  Court to make her declaration from bodily infirmity . A copy of the marriage license is attached as also the original certificate of her husband. which I hope is satisfactory enough . You will please act upon this and allow it without waiting its turn  with the Land Warrant.  Very Respectfully , G.G. Dibrell ( signed ) Att
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Brief  in the case of Lucinda Fisher widow of John DeKalb County  and State of Tenn. act 3rd Feby 1853 . Claim ("original " )  Proof exhibited , ( if original. ) Is it documentary, tradionary, or supported by rolls ? If either, state the substance.  Her husband was pensioned under the act of June 7 1832  at  $ 60 a year.  Record of marriage. Her identity as the widow of the pensioner, his death  & her present and where proved by 2 credible witnesses . Thornton Triplett ( signed )  Examining Clerk . Name and residence of  Agent G G Debrill Esq Sparta , Tenn.
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22083 Payments to be made at Nashville by the  Ps of USB Bank  Agent for paying Pensioners in the  Agency of West Tennessee  [faint note above and left of text] this City..  [illegible]   from Rutherford  N Carolina
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WAR DEPARTMENT.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I certify that, in conformity with the law of the United
States of the 7th June, 1832, John Fisher
of the State of Tennessee
who was a private in the Army of the Revolution
is entitled to receive Sixty dollars and 
______ cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semiannally on the 4th of March, and 4th of September, in every year.

Given at the War Office of the United States, 
this 2nd  day of October
one thousand eight
hundred and thirty-three

John Robb [signature]
Acting Secretary of War. 

Examined and
Countersigned.

J. L. Edwards [signature]
Commissioner of Pensions.
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October 11, 1929 MRS. JOHN E. BENTLEY BEND VIEW MCMINNVILLE, TENNESSEE  Pen. and  1812 War Section  Bureau of Pensions  Washington  D.C. ( post mark ) [ REVOLUTIONARY  & 1812 WARS SECTION BUREAU OF PENSIONS  OCT  15 1929 ] I received in early September  the pension of  John ( Fisher ) ( underscored ) Revolutionary soldier from Warren Co. Tennessee, July 2, 1833  who died in DeKalb  Co. Tenn.  April 11, 1837 .  I thank you for a complete and satisfactory  statement re said pension. I am most anxious  to get the pension of his wife , Lucinda Tramel, who was
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allowed pension  July 17, 1855  from Dekalb Co. Tenn. aged 70 years  asking for all records and dates. Thanking you cordially  for any attention this request may receive. Mrs. John Eldridge Bentley ( signed )
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Revolutionary and War of 1812  Department Washington  D.C. Sir : May I ask that you will kindly give me pension  application of John ( Fisher ) ( underscored )   Revolutionary soldier  who had pension granted him while living in Warren  County , Tennessee and whose death occurred before  1838 . All personal facts desired. Thanking you sincerely  Mrs. John Eldridge Bentley  McMinnville, Tennessee  June 13, 1929  ( over )
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John Fisher private in  South Carolina militia  was place on pension  roll October 2, 1833  aged 77.  ( post mark ) [ REVOLUTIONARY  & 1812  WAR SECTION BUREAU OF PENSIONS  JUN 15 1929 ]
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Mrs. John Randall Aust, 
2616- Belmont Blvd.,
Nashville, Tenn.

May 6, 1929. 

Department of Pension,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:-

Kindly advise me any information possible regarding the following
of my ancestors who were Revolutionary Soldiers:

Nicholas Oliver, of Somerset Co. N.J. (inter: from 7/27/29)enlisted from Bound
Brook. N.J. 1779.  The war department gives the following regarding his services
"Nicholas Oliver servied (served) as private in the Lst Troop, Lee's Legion Continential Troops. His name appears on a record which shows that he enlisted March 10-
1779, for three years, and was discharged May 1- 1779. His name also appears 
on an undated list of Officers and Soldiers of the Virginia Line on Continential
Establishment, which shows "Regiment, Lee's Legion, number of acres, 100, when
warrant was issued, Sept • 10- 1790." his name also appears on a New Jersey record
which shows Nicholas Oliver, private, Lee's Par. Legion March 10- 1779 to
August 1, 1780. "  The Virginia records give his enlistment as Bound Brook
March 10- 1779. He seems to have served in the Somerset Militia prior to his
enlistment in Lee ' s Legion as Saffell's Registrar of Rev. Soldiers gives him
in Somerset Co. Militia as well as Lee's Legion.

I want his birth date, place of birth, his mrriage date, his wife's name ( first wife) and etc.
He died in New York City in 1839 and was receiving a pension ($96.00) from 1834 until his
death.

Again:

Robert Rives, born in Brunswick Co. Va. in 1742 was a Revolutionary
Soldier. Died in Columbia South Carolina in 1793. Richland County. S. C. Left
issue. His wife is supposed to have been a Miss Simpson, not proven.  His will
on file in Columbia S.C. 1793. His oldest child I have record of was born in
1766 namely William. There were several others that followed.  I want any
thing that is possible to secure on this Robert Rives.

Again:

John Fisher, of North Carolina, (insert Only Tenn)  is given as private in Baker's 
Company July 20- 1778 for nine months in l0th Regiment under Abraham Shepard 
Colonel. I would like to get the record if possible of this John Fisher as I 
think he is the same as John Fisher who served in Evans Battalion at Cumberland 
Settlement at Nashville which I have found in the Archives of Tennessee and
who died and buried in DeKalb Co. Tenn. and who at his death was living in
now Dekalb then Smith Co.Tenn.  He is buried in the eastern section of Dekalb
Co. Tenn.  Anything on him is desired.

Thanking you for your trouble and trusting that I may secure
sufficient on at least one of the above to give me a D.A.R. membership I am

Yours truly,

Mrs. Jno. R. Aust.   

(Bottom left of page is a stamp: 
U. S. Pension Office May 9 1929)
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Mrs. John Aust, 
2616- Belmont Blvd., 
Nashville, Tenn.

May 6, 1929. 

Department of Interior,
War Record Dept.,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:-

Kindly assist me in locating the Revolutionary Services of
ancestors as follows;-

One Robert Rives of Columbia S.C, Richmond Co., a son of
Timothy Rives of Brunswick Co. Va. was living in South Carolina
in Columbia, Richland Co in 1793 when he made his will.  He was born in Brunswick Co. Va. 1742. Just who his wife was is unknown but it
is supposed he married a Miss Simpson.  I want the Revolutionary
Record of Robert Rives above mentioned.

Again:

John Fisher, of North Carolina served in Baker's Company
July 20- 1778 for nine months, in 10th Regiment ---- under Abraham
Shepard as Colonel. I would like additional record of his services
if possible to obtain same.  I think this is the same John Fisher who
served in 1786 in Evans Battalion at the settlement at Nashville on the
Cumberland River.  This last taken from the pay roll of the Evans
Battalion located inthe (in the)archives in Land Grant Office at Nashville.  John Fisher is buried in the eastern section of DeKalb Co. Tenn. once Smith County.

Thanking you for any aditional information regarding these two
of my ancestors as I am trying to secure a D.A.R. membership thru at
least one of them.

I am, again thanking you for your trouble,

Yours truly,

Mrs. Jno R. Aust. ((signature)
Mrs. John R. Aust.

(stamp located on bottom left:

REVOLUTIONARY & 1812 Wars
SECTION
MAY 10 1929
BUREAU OF PENSIONS)
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W. W. POTTER. M. D.
ARNSTEIM BUILDING
KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE

January 5th, 1922.

Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

My dear Sir;-
Upon application to the Tennessee Society Sons of the
American Revolution I was advised to write you for information.

I base my claim of eligibility to join this Society upon
the fact that I am a great grandson of one John Fisher, of
Virginia.  If my information was correct he was a soldier Washington's Arny, and after his discharge was granted a tract
of land in what is now DeKalb County, Tennessee.

The Adjutant General's office advises me that the records
of that office that a number of men named  John Fisher
served in the Revolutionary War in various organizations of
Virginia Troops; but I am practically certain that no John
Fisher other than the one I speak of was granted a tract of
land in the territory which is now Tennessee, but at that time
was a part of North Carolina.

I was advised by the Adjutant General's office to write
you relative to this man's service. I am under the impression
that Smithville, Tennessee, was the nearest post office at the
time of his death.

I would appreciate any information you can furnish me
relative to the service of this man. Thanking you very kindly,
I am.

Yours very truly,

W. W. Potter  (signature)

WWP: MK
(Bottem right corner is a stamp: 
U. S. 
PENSION
D
JAN 7 1922
Office)
M？
S
1922
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Drawer H
Liberty, Texas
March 7, 1936 

Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sirs:

I quote from a letter written August 12, 929 by one of Mr. Church's staff to Mrs. John Randall Aust, 2616 Belmont Boulevard, Nashville, Tennessee. The reference is to Rev. & 1812 Wars Sec.
NCS /eel:
"I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension
claim, W.25580, it appears that John Fisher was born Sept. 11-1756,
in Halifax County Virginia.  He moved with his father (name not given)
to Orange County, from there to Lincoln County and from there to Rutherford County. North Carolina. "  

As you will observe, the statement about the moves is a little
ambiguous. I wonder if, from the original papers in the claim, you
can clear it up for me.  Did John Fisher move from Halifax County,
Virginia to Orange County, Virginia and from there to Lincoln County,
Virginia (now West Va.), or did he go to Orange and Lincoln Counties
in North Carolina, before moving to Rutherford County, North Carolina?
Is it to be a interpreted that he made all these moves with his father.
or only the first one? 

I am interested in tracing the history of this Fisher family,
as I am descended from a sister of the John Fisher referred to in
the claim.  The exact counties involved become important to me
as places to look for further genealogical data concerning the father and other members of the family, such as might be established by wills, marriage records, etc.

I shall appreciate whatever information you can give me in the way of
clearing up the points about which I am concerned.

Very sincerely yours,

Mrs. N. H. Moore (signature)
Mrs. N. H. Moore.

((Stamp in the bottom right corner:
RECEIVED
MAR 10 1936
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS. ADM
Illegible 24)
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March 20, 1936

XXXXXXXXXXXX

BA-J/MCS
John Fisher,  W.25580

Mrs. N. H. Moore
Drawer H
Liberty, Texas

Dear Madam: 

Reference is made to your letter of March 7, 1936, requesting further information in  regard to the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Fisher, W.25580.
(illegible) papers on file in pension claim, W.25580, based upon the
Revolutfonary War service of this soldier, the following statement
appears: "When called into the service he lived in Rutherford Count, North Carolina, previous to which his father moved from Halifax, Virginia,to Orange, from there to Lincoln and from there to Rutherford County, North Carolina, on the Broad River". 

The papers on file in this pension claim contain no data that
would clarify the ambiguous statements contained in the above paragraph.

Very truly yours

G. H. Smart 
Acting Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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Rev.&1812 Wars Section.
MMHF

October 16, 1929. 

Mrs. John  E. Bentley, 
McMinnville, 
Tennessess.

Dear Madam: 

I advise you that in the history furnished you on September 12, 1929 of John Fisher (W.25580) were included all data in regard to his widow Lucinda.

 Very truly yours, 


EARL D. CHURCH,
Commissioner.
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REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION.             3-525
22280
                                                                   DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
W.  25.580.                                                            BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
                                                                                    Washington, D. C.,        19....


In reply to your request of..., received....
for a statement of the military history of....John Fisher
a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired 
information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for
pension on file in this Bureau.
DATES OF                   LENGTH OF            RANK.         OFFICERS UNDER WHOM             STATE.
ENLISTMENT OR        SERVICE.                                     SERVICE WAS RENDERED.     
APPOINTMENT.                                                                 CAPTAIN.            COLONEL
__________________________________________________________________________________
1776 or 1777              4 mos.                     Prt.              James (?) Jones   William Graham         NC     
              1780.             10 mos.                                                          Tutts     Le Roy Hammond     SC  


Was taken prisoner by Fergurion army but escaped
after a few days returned to the American Army
.                                   4 mos.                                                            Tutts    Le Roy Hammond     SC  


Battles engaged in,

Residence of soldier at enlistment,... Vol in Rutherford County NC
Date of application for pension,... Jul. 2. 1833 His cl. was allowed
Residence at date of application,...Warren County Tenn.
Age at date of application,... Born Sept. 11. 1756 in Halifax Co. Va
                                                  Died Apr. 11.  1837 in [illegible] Tenn

Remarks 
He mar. Dec. 28. 1825 in Warren County, Tenn. Lucinda Tramel
She was Alpins as on appex. July 17. 1855, while residing
in De Kalb Co. Tenn. aged 70 years.  Soldiers son was
killed in the Battle of Orleans name not stated.  There is
No other family data.

Respectfully,
Commissioner.


6-2856
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Rev. and 1812 
Wars Section
MCS/eel

August 12, 1929


Mrs. John Randall Aust 
2616 Belmont Boulevard 
Nashville, Tennesse

Dear Madam: I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W.25580, it appears that John Fisher was born September 11, 1756, in Halifax County, Virginia. He moved with his father (name not given) to Orange County, from there to Lincoln County and from there to Rutherford County, North Carolina. 

While a resident of Rutherford County, North Carolina , he enlisted and served as a private as follows: 
From late in 1776, or early in 1777, four months in Captain James (?) Jones' Company, in Colonel William Grabham's North Carolina Regiment; from sometime in 1780, about two months before the battle of Kings Mountain, 10  months in Captain Tutt's Company in Colonel LeRoy Hammond's South Carolina Regiment; he was taken prisoner by Ferguson but made his escape when the latter was defeated at King's Mountain and soon rejoined Captain Tutt's
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Company and Colonel Hammond's Regiment. A few days after his return home, he enlisted and served four months in Captain Tutt's Company in Colonel LeRoy Hammond's South Carolina Regiment. 

He was allowed pension on his application executed July 2, 1833, at which time he was living in Warren County, Tennessee. 

He died April 11, 1837, in De Kalb County, Tennessee. 

The soldier married December 28, 1825, in Warren County, Tennessee, Lucinda Tramel. 

She was allowed pension on her application executed July 17, 1855, at which time she was living in De Kalb County, Tennessee, aged seventy years. 

The soldier's son, name not given, was killed at the battle of New Orleans. 

There are no further data relative to family. 

The above noted is the history of the only soldier from Tennessee, by the name of John Fisher, found on the Revolutionary War records of this bureau, and said records fail to afford any information in regard to a Robert Rives as described by you. 

You were furnished the history of Nicholas Oliver, on July 27, 1929. 

Very truly yours, 

EARL D. CHURCH 
Commissioner.