Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W 20580, George Alder, Md.
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Service
MD

Name
Alder, George or Allder

Lucy Ann

Number 
W 20580
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See Letter May 22 1834 to G. Richards - so to Jane 8 July 1834

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263

Virginia

George Alder
Private
Flying Camp in the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War

Inscribed on the roll of Virginia at the rate of 8 dollars per month to commence on the 25 of April 1818

Certificate of Pension issued the 27th of April 1818and delivered to W. James Cassin of the 4th Auditor's office

Arrearages to 4th Sept 1818 4-11/31 months $34.84

{Revolutionary Claim Act 18th March, 1818}

9 Months

(See letters to the Agent for paying U.S. Pension A. Richards VA & to Mr. James Cassin of the 4th Auditors office Treasury Dept of the 2nd October 1819

Loudon Co
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Geo. Alder

Put this with his paper
See Lucy Ann Alder
act July 7, 1838
Va No 41924
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District and State of Virginia

On this 25 day of April 1818 before me the subscriber presiding and sole judge of the Superior Court of Law for the County of Jefferson in the state aforesaid personally appears George Alder aged sixty-two years, resident in the county of Loudon in the said district who being by me first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war" That he the said George Alder in July 1776 enlisted in Prince Georges County in the state of Maryland in the company commanded by Captain Robert Bower of Thomas Ewings Regiment of the Maryland Flying Camp that he continued to serve in the said corps or in the service of the United States until the full expiration of his term of service which was nine months when he was discharged from service that he was in the battle of White Plains and at Fort Washington and was there taken prisoner and held by the enemy until his term of service expired when he was by them [illegible] and that he is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support; and that he has no other evidence now in his power of his said services except the annexed certificate of William D Brelland officer of Major Thomas Devenport. Sworn to and declared before me the day and year aforesaid.

I Judge &c. as aforesaid do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said George Alder did serve in the revolutionary war as stated in the preceding declaration against the common enemy and I now transmit the proceedings and testimony taken and had before me to the Secretary for the Department of War pursuant to the directions of the aforementioned act of congress.

Certified by me the day and year aforesaid

Robert White

SEAL
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District and State of Virginia

Abraham Dumpole /Domport (?) made oath before me Judge as aforesaid that he was taken prisoner at Fort Washington in the year 1776 and that the within applicant was also taken prisoner at the same time.

Sworn to before me the day and year aforesaid

Robt. White

Virginia to wit

Jefferson County

I Robert C Lee Clerk of the Superior Court of Law holden for the county aforesaid do hereby certify that Robert White Esquire before whom the above affidavit appears to have been made was at the time of taking the same and now is a Judge of the General Court of Virginia, and that due faith and credit is and ought to be given to all his official acts as such as well in courts of Justice as thereout.

In testimony where of I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my own private seal (having no public seal of office) this 21st day of Apr 1818 and in the 42nd year of the Commonwealth.

R C Lee - Clerk

SEAL
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The opinion of the Court as to the amount of the property is not expressed in the certificate but is left blank.

The signature of the clerk is wanting to the certificate

Not entitled toa pension - served in the Flying Camp
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Loudon County, Virginia

On this 16th day of November 1821 personally appeared in open court being a court of record for the same county George Alder aged sixty-five years and ten months resident in the county aforesaid who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath declare that he served in the revolutionary war as follows:  That he was attached to the Regiment of Infantry of the Maryland Line of Troops commanded by Col Thomas Ewing and served in the company of Capt. Robert Bowie of said regiment - that he enlisted in June 1776 and was captured at Fort Washington, York Island on the 16th day of November in that year and remained a prisoner until duly exchanged on his parole - that he received a pension certificate on the 27th of April 1818 in the words following:

War Department (Rec of Claim)
"I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 18th of March 1818 George Alder late a private in the army of the Revolution is inscribed on the pension list role of the Virginia Agency as the rate of eight dollars per month to commence on the 25th day of April 1818. Given at the war office of the United States the 27th day of April 1818.
J.C. Cochran
Secy of war

No Number
SEAL

And I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not since that time by gift, sale or in my manner disposed of
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of my property or any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled "An at to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War" passed on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or securities contracts or debts due to me nor have I any income other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed.

SCHEDULE

Real Estate - None
Personal Property - one cow, six small hos, one old horse, 1 pewter dish, 6 pewter plates, 6 knives/forks, 1 set of gears, 1 poplar cupboard, 1 walnut table, 5 common chairs, 1 iron pot, frying pan and Dutch oven, 1 axe, 1 hoe and 1 pair iron shovel & tongs and the whole estimated by the court to be worth $42.25

And I do further solemnly swear that my occupation is that of a common day laborer and that take one day with another I am able to work one half of the year being at time much afflicted with rheumatism - My family composed of myself, my wife aged about fifty-nine years and one daughter aged twenty years. My wife is infirm and unable to give much assistance to the family, the care and work in which is my daughter herself - Sworn to and declared on the day and year first written before.

Stephen C Reszel

Presiding Magistrate of the County Court of Loudon VA
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I Charles Brinns Clerk of the Court of Loudon do hereby certify that the foregoing oath and the schedule that is annexed are truly copies from the records of the said court and I further certify that it is the opinion of the said court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule is blank dollars and blank cents

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the court on this 16th day of November 1821.

Clerk of the Court for the County of Loudon VA

SEAL
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Let to L Board Mar 10, 1841

Date of Death not on A.B.

I.L.L.
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4924
Richmond Virginia
Lucy Ann Allder
widow of George Allder dec'd
MD
who was a pensioner under the Act of 1818
and who died on the 28th August 1824 of Loudon Co in the state of VA who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Bowin of the Regiment commanded by Col. Ewin in the MD line for 6 months.

Inscribed on the Roll of Richmond at the rate of 20 dollars and blank cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1836

Certificate of Pension issued the 21st day of January 1840 and sent Thos B Gaundery, Leesburg, VA

Arrears tot he 4th of Sept 1839 $70.00
Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Mar 30 $10.00
$80.00

Act July 7, 1838

Recorded by D D Addison - Clerk
Book A Vol 2 Page 176
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Declaration

In order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by an act of congress passed July 7th 1838 entitled "An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows."

State of Virginia
Loudon County

On this the 26th day of October 1839 before me Roger Chew a Justice of the Peace in and for the county and state above named personally appeared Lucy Ann Allder of the county and state aforesaid aged seventy-seven years and made oath in due form of law that she is the widow of George Allder who was a soldier of the revolution and served under Col. Thomas Ewin in the army of the revolution and who was directed to be placed on the list of pensioners in Virginia at the rate of eight dollars per month by virtue of which he the said George Allder her dec'd husband drew from Richmond, State of Virginia one pension or part of a pension in the year 1818 or 1819 she cannot state positively which and that after he made the said draw his name (as she understood) was struck from the pension roll for what cause she cannot tell and that he never drew a pension afterwards - she further declares that she was married to him the said George Allder on the 17th day of November 1778 as recorded in a prayer book now in her possession the record leaf of which is included herewith to be forwarded to the war department - she states that she was married to the said George Allder in
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at the time above stated in Prince George or Charles County Maryland and that she was born on the 26th day of September 1762 agreeably to an old record now in her possession a part of which (record) is intended to be herewith forwarded to the war department - she moreover states that the said George Allder her dec'd husband died on the 28th day of August 1824 and that she never married afterwards but still continues the widow of the said George Allder - she moreover was that she was not married to him the said George Allder prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place on the 17th day of November 1778 as above stated after he had left the service of the United States - she further declares that she is not on the pension roll of any state - she further says that by reason of old age and bodily infirmity she cannot attend the court without suffering a great inconvenience and endangering her health or life.

Lucy Ann Allder

In presence of Thos R Saunders
Wm Bradfield
Sworn and subscribed to the day and date first above written before me

Roger Chew - JP

I certify that it appears to me that Lucy Ann Allder the above named applicant is seventy-seven years of age and that by reason of old age and bodily infirmity she cannot attend the court given under my hand this 26th day of Oct 1839

Roger Chew
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State of Virginia
Loudon County

On this the 26th day of October 1839 before me Roger Chew a Justice of the Peace in and for the county and state above named personally appeared William Bradfield of the county and state aforesaid and made oath in due form of law that he has known Lucy Ann Allder about thirty years and he was also acquainted with her dec'd husband George Allder who was reputed to have been a soldier of the Revolution and never heard it doubted and he further states that the said George Allder and the said Lucy Ann Allder lived together as man and wife from the time of his the deponents first acquaintance with them until the death of the said George Allder which took place between fifteen and sixteen years ago. He further states that they raised a family of children which were recognized in the neighbourhood (neighborhood) as the legitimate children of the said George and Lucy Ann Allder and that he never heard the legality of their marriage doubted and he does not believe a doubt ever existed in the neighborhood of the legality of the marriage.

Wm Bradfield

In presence of Thos R Saunders
James Allder

Sworn to and subscribed the day and date first above written before me

Roger Chew - JP

JP - I certify that William Bradfield who has sworn and subscribed to the above is a man of credibility and his statement is entitled to credit.

Roger Chew - JP
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State of Virginia
Loudon County

I Roger Chew a Justice of the Peace in and for the county and state aforesaid do hereby certify that I have lived in the same neighborhood with Lucy Ann Allder for some years prior to the death of her dec'd husband the said George Allder and I am satisfied of the truth of her declaration given under my hand this the 26th day of October 1839.

Roger Chew - JP

6340

Virginia Loudon County to wit

At a court held for Loudon County on the 11th day of Nov. 1839 the Declaration of Lucy Ann Allder for a pension was this day produced in court and after a full investigation of the same the court is fully satisfied with the truth of said declaration.

Attest Teste  Chs S Eskridge

Virginia Loudon County to wit

I Charles G Eskridge Clerk of the County Court of Loudon in the state aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true transcript from the records of said Court.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and annex the seal of the said court this 14th day of November 1839 and in the 64th year of the commonwealth.

Chs S Eskridge - Clerk
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[illegible]
Mr George Allder and Lucy Ann *** married November 17th 1778

James Allder was born August 7th 1779

John Wynn Allder was born September 20th 1781

James Latimore Allder was born Mary 16 1783

Sary Roby Allder was born January 23 1785

George Hawkins Allder was born June 22, 1789

Elisabeth Latimore Allder was born February 7th 1793
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Mary Hawkins Allder was born November 9th 1795

Nancy Hawkins Allder was born October 28 1800

Sary Roby Allder departed this life August 23, 1802

Sarah Roby Allder was born March 2nd 1804

Marcus Allder was born November 1807
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Sarah Wynn wife and mother of the above departed this life on Thursday May 22, 1777 about 10 o'clock

John Wynn Departed this life October 13 1782

John Wynn departed this life October 13th 1782
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Lucy Ann Wynn daughter of John Wynn & Sarah his wife was born Sept 26, 1762

*** Ann Wynn daughter of John Wynn and Sarah his wife was born April 16th 1764

Eleanor Ann Wynn daughter of John Wynn & Sarah his wife was born November 13th 1767
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STAMP

Thomas R Saunders Esqr

Leesburg
Loudon County
VA
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State of Maryland Prince Georges County

I hereby certify that it appears from the marriage records or Prince Georges County that a license was granted to George Alder and Lucy Ann Wynn on the thirty first day of October in the year seventeen hundred and seventy-eight

In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of Prince Georges County Court this first day of November eighteen hundred and thirty-nine.

Aquila Beall - Clerk of Prince Georges County Court
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June 23, 1935

BA-J/ILL
George Allder
W. 20580

Hayden Siler
602 Marshall Street
Jellico, Tennessee

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War Records of George Alder and Isaac Gross both soldiers of Virginia.

There is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of an Isaac Gross, under any spelling of that surname. It is suggested that information in regard to his military record, might be obtained from the Adjutant General, War Department, this city.

The record of George Alder, or Allder is given herein as found in the papers on file in pension claim, W. 20580 based upon his service in that war.

George Alder, or Allder, enlisted sometime in June or July 1776 served as private in Captain Robert Bowie's company, Colonel Thomas Ewing's Maryland regiment of the Flying Camp, was in the battle of White Plains, was taken prisoner at Fort Washington on November 16, 1776 and held a prisoner until released on parole.

He was allowed pension on his application executed April 25, 1818 at which time he resided in Loudoun County, Virginia. On November 21, 1821 he stated that he was aged sixty-five years and ten months, but he did not state the place of his birth nor the names of his parents.

The soldier died August 28, 1824.

George Allder or Alder married November 17, 1778 in Prince
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George or Charles County, Maryland, Lucy Ann Wynn; she was the daughter of John and Sarah Wynn and was born September 26, 1762. Her father died October 13, 1782 and her mother died May 22, 1777.

Lucy Ann Alder (as her signature is shown) the soldier's widow was allowed pension on her application executed October 26, 1839, at which time she resided in Loudoun County, Virginia.

The following data regarding the children of George and Lucy Ann Allder are shown:

James Allder born August 14, 1779
John Wynn Allder born September 20, 1781
James Latimore Allder born May 16, 1783
Sary Roby Allder born June 22, 1785 - Died August 23, 1802
George Hawkins Allder born June 22, 1789
Elisabeth Latimore Allder born February 7 1793
Mary Hawkins Alder born November 9, 1795
Nancy Hawkins Allder born October 28, 1800
Sary Roby A Allder born March 2, 1804
Marcus Allder born November 1807

At the time soldier's widow, Lucy Ann Allder made application for pension, James Allder witnessed her signature aged twenty years was living at home. There are no further data regarding the children.

The births of two sisters of Lucy Ann Wynn who married the soldier are shown - 

Prissillah Ann Wynn born April 16, 1764
Eleaner Ann Wynn born November 13, 1767

For information in regard to the last payment of pension of Lucy Ann Allder you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city and cite Lucy Ann Allder, widow of George Allder, certificate #4934, issued January 21, 1840, rate $20 per annum, commenced March 4, 1836 Act of July 7, 1838 Virginia Agency.

Very truly yours,

A.D. Hiller

Executive Assistant to the Administrator

2.
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1935 June 25 - Hist to Hayden Siber - ILL

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Revy WIDOW, &c.

File NO 20580
Lucy Ann Alder
Widow of 
George Alder
Priv Rev War

Act: July 7 1838

Index Vol A page 10

[Arrangement of 1870.]
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The certificate to be sent to Mr. James Cassin of the Auditors Office
Col Freeman

263
George Alder
Pr
$8

Can'd 25 Apr 1828

Math Calcs Shown
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The length of time elapsed has in some degree impaired my recollection of the soldier with whom I had the honor to serve in the Revolutionary War but circumstances [illegible] we so much in the case of George Alder that I have no hesitation in saying that he was a soldier in Captain Rob Bowie's Company of the Maryland Flying Camp in which Company I served as a second Lieutenant.

The certificate Mr. Alder possess stating his indigent circumstances I believe to be correct and am acquainted with one of the signers whose respectability entitles his assertion to all credit

Wm D Beall

Feb 8, 1818
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Geo Alder
Case
[illegible] Apr 23 1834

Power of Attorney

[illegible] on 1824 or 25
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I Geo Allder of the county of Loudoun and State of Virginia do hereby constitutes and appoint blank of the county aforesaid my lawful attorney to receive of the commissions of *** in Virginia in my behalf all the monies due me as a soldier of the revolution of the United States of America to the 4th of Sept 1819 signed and delivered in the presence of Geo Allder - SEAL

Witness

Loudoun County to wit

Personally appeared before me one of the Justices for the County aforesaid the above named Geo Allder and acknowledged the above to be his act and deed given under my hand the 30th day of August 1819

Abner Gibson - SEAL

Loudoun County to wit

Geo Allder this day appeared before me one of the Magistrates for the County aforesaid and made oath that he is the same Geo Allder whom the secretary of War directed to be placed on the list of pensioners in Virginia at the rate of eight dollars per month that he served under the command of Colonel Thomas Ewin in the army of the revolution and that he now resides in the County aforesaid and state of Virginia and he has resided there upwards of twenty-seven years given under my hand the 30th day of Aug 1819

Abner Gibson - SEAL
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FREE
STAMP: Leesburg May 27

Rec'd 28th May 1834


For Geo Alder Case

James L Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
War Department
Washington D.C.
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James L Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions

Leesburg VA, May 24, 1834

Sir

I have rec'd your favor of the 22nd inst. in relation to George Alder. You have stated in your letter that the state regiment to which Alder belonged is still regarded as a state regiment and further inquiry on my part would have been unnecessary but as it is possible that Regiment may be now regarded as a Continental Regiment it becomes my duty to ask of you the further favor to inform me whether the regiment to which G. Alder belonged has been subsequently to 1818 considered by the war department as a continental regiment.

The case relates to a very poor woman who thinks some few years back pension may be received.

I enclose you the only paper I have rec'd from her in which is mentioned the names of Col Thomas Ewin - may not they mean Capt Thomas Ewell who was a Capt in who Colonel Gibson's State Regiment 1st Md? as Alder belonged to some [illegible] Regiment and that it's possible he was attached to Gibson & if so it seems to me but equitable that his widow should recover the sum of his pension from the time struck off until his death.

I am Sir
very respectfully
Your obedient servant

Geor Richards.
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War Department
Pension Office
May 22, 1834

Sir

In reply to your letter respecting George Alder, I have to inform you that his name was dropt (dropped) from the roll because the regiment in which he served was not on the continental establishment, and the law of March 18, 1818, under which he was pensioned, did not provide for any but those who belonged to the continental establishment. It was not known when he first obtained a pension that the regiment to which Alder was attached was not in the continental service.

I am [illegible]
very respectfully
Your Obt Servant

J L Edwards

Geo Richards Esq.
Leesburg VA
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Is G Alder's Regt still regarded as a state regt? If not, please let me know to which continental regt he was attached. I think he was of Gibson's 1st Va Regt.
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J.L. Edwards Esqr
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.
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Leesburg - Loudoun County
Nov 14th 1839

Sir

You will find herewith the declaration of Mrs. Allder which when examined you will please report to me at this place.

Very respectfully
your obt. Servt.

Thos R Saunders

J.L. Edwards Esqr
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STAMP: RICHMOND VA Mar 8

Mar 10 1841
Lucy Ann Alder
Va.

J.L. Edwards
Comm of Pensions
Washington City
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House of Delegates
Richmond, March 8th 1841

Sir

I have received a power of attorney to draw the pension of Mrs. Lucy Ann Alder the widow of George Alder and the pension agent at this place has doubts whether the pension can be paid without returning the original certificate. Mrs. Alder is a five years pensioner and this part is her last year.

I will thank you to write to the agent or to me so that if the certificate be necessary, I may procure it.

Yours

Lewis Beard
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Lewis Beard
Mar 10 1841
GL
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83

Pensions Office
Mar 10, 1841

Sir

In answer to your letter of the 8th inst. I have to inform you that when the last payment due on the 4th [illegible] to a pensioner under the act of July 7, 1838 be demanded the pension certificate must be delivered up to the pension agent.

Lewis Beard Esq
House of Delegates
Richmond VA
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Lucy Ann Alder
wid of George
Va
Act July 7, 1838
Married 1778
Died 1824
Allow {illegible} per
$20 per annum
Capt. Bowie Maryland
Flying Camp

Th R Sanders Esq
Leesburg VA
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602 Marshall St
Jellico, Tennessee
June 8, 1935

STAMP: Received Jun 10 1935 

Veteran's Adm:

Can you give me the war records as in your office of the following:

(1) George Alder - mentioned in lists of Va Revolutionary soldiers [ALDER]
(2) Isaac Gross - also a VA soldier [GROSS]

I should like such information as you have concerning them with certificate numbers, etc. that I may refer to the General Accounting Office for their records which usually gives more of what I want.

This may help you. The Virginia State Library, Richmon has these numbers but I do not know what they may refer to:

(1) Isaac Gross, Aud. Acct. XXVII p. 146
(2) George Alder, S. of W. 1820 Doc 55, this is also in 554 Library of Congress

These may refer to Virginia records only.

Thanking you
I am
Sincerely yours,

Hayden Siler