Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 10582, for Charles Thurman, Virginia
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

[3-1776]

SERVICE
Va.

Thurman, Charles
or Thurman, Barbara

NUMBER
R.10582

CONTENTS
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

[left side] 13644
East Tennessee

Charles Thurman
of Bledsoe Co. in the State of Tennessee
who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Red [Redd] of the Regt. Commanded by Col. Bluford in the Militia line for one year 9 months

Inscribed on the Roll of Tennessee at the rate of 70 Dollars - Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 29 day of May 1833 and sent Clerk of Bledsoe Tennessee

Arrears to the 4th of Mar 1833 - $140.00
Semi=anl. [annual] allowance ending 4 Sept. ’33  35.00
$175.00

{Revolutionary Claim}
{Act June 7, 1832}

Recorded by Geo. B. Whiting, Clerk
Book E Vol. 7 Page 68

[right side] Pen. Agent May 23, 1837 
Letter to R. King Pen. Agt. 7th Nov 1837 
Order to pay - 14 Mar 1838 
let [letter] to 3d Aud. June 7. 1838 
Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 6th April 1838 from 4th March 1836 to 4 Sept. 1837 – Agt. Notified - 13 June 1838
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A Transcript of the Record of the marriage of Charles Thurman a Revolution pensioner who is dead Charles Thurman was married to Barbary Picknell on the 29 July 1790 in Lee County Virginia 

State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} This day personally appeared before me William Brown an acting Justice of the Peace for said County Margaret Thurman and made oath in due form of law that the above is a true transcript of the Record of the family Bible of Charles Thurman deceased which has been of the possession of my family for forty years as I am one of the [Illegible] has always lived with the said Charles Thurman untill [until] his death which was the 16th day of December 1848 
Margaret [her X mark] Thurman
Sworn to and subscribe the 8 day of November 1850 
W Brown an acting Justice of the peace for Bledsoe County 

State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} This day personally appeared before me William Brown an acting Justice of the peace for said County James Worthington and Jesse C Brown and made oath in due form of law that Charley Thurman who was a Revolutionary Pensioner departed this life the 16 day of December
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1848 and left a widdow [widow] whose name was Barbary Thurman 
Sworn to and subscribed before me the 22 day of November 1850 
Jesse C. Brown
James Worthington 
W Brown an acting Justice of the peace for Bledsoe County 

State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} I F. W. Hale Clerk of the County Court aforesaid do certify that Wm Brown whose name appears to the above certificate is an acting Justice of the peace for said County and that all his acts have in credit for the purposes their contained 
Given under my hand at office in Pikesville Decr [December] 3rd 1850 
F. W. Hale clk [Clerk] 
By D. J Roger D. C.
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State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County County Court} SS 

On this fifteenth day of August in the year 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Worshipful Justices of the County Court for the County of Bledsoe aforesaid now sitting, Charles Thurman a resident of the County of Bledsoe aforesaid in the State of Tennessee aged seventy-two years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June seventh 1832. 

That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. He was drafted and entered the service in the Virginia militia under the command of Captain Thomas Redd and was stationed at Albemarle Barracks and employed in guarding Burgoyne's prisoners at the expiration of his term which he served out at that place, in which was for three months he received a discharge from Captain Redd but which has been lost or destroyed or has become from age so dim as to be illegible as he has some old papers in his possession which are in that condition. He then resided in Buckingham County Virginia but in consequence of loss of his discharge, and failure of memory he is unable to state the time when he entered and quit the service. He further states that beside the above
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mentioned tour he served six others of three months each in the Virginia Militia, making in all twenty-one months. One of said terms he was drafted and entered the service in Buckingham County under Captain John Mosely and marched from there with him to Petersburg where he was transferred to Captain Thomas W. Ewels [Thomas W. Ewell's] company which short time joined Colonel Bluford's [Abraham Buford's] Regiment – (which he thinks was the first Virginia Regiment) to make up a deficiency in it occasioned by the loss of men at the time of Bluford's defeat [Buford's Defeat, or the Battle of the Waxhaws, May 29, 1780] – Under Captain Ewel and Colonel Bluford he marched from Petersburg to Hillsboro in North Carolina – from Hillsboro to Salisbury – from Salisbury to Charlotte and from there to Cheraw Hills in South Carolina where he was stationed he thinks for about a month under General Greene – From Cheraw Hills he marched under General Greene to Salisbury and there fell in behind General Morgan who had the prisoners taken at the battle at Kings Mountain [October 7, 17801 ], and marched in that condition to Dan River and there stationed between Morgan and Cornwallis who was on the opposite side of Dan River. From there he marched after Cornwallis to Hillsboro and from there to Guilford where he was in the battle fought at that place [March 15, 1781] serving under Captain Ewel, Colonel Bluford and General Greene – He sees from a certificate or discharge which he has from Captain Ewel that he once belonged to Col. Gibson's Regiment, but in what
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manner he was attached to it he cannot now recollect, in fact it has utterly escape from his memory that he ever did belong to such a Regiment. He cannot state the order of time in which he served under the different officers, but was during his service under the command of Captains Thomas Redd. Thomas W Ewel – two different Captains of the name of John Mosely – Webb, Nathan Cunningham, some Captain of Culpeper County, his name not recollected, and some other Captains whose names are forgotten. 
After the battle of Guilford he entered the service in Albemarle County under the command of one of the captains John Mosely as substitute for William Gowen and marched under him to the siege of York [September – October 1781], there he remained in service and was in the battle, and after it, saw Cornwallis deliver his sword to the American officer. He was then transferred to Captain Nathaniel Cunningham's Company and placed to guard the prisoners and under Cunningham marched with them to Winchester barracks where he was finally discharged by Captain Cunningham on the seventh of November 1781. He states that Nehemiah Evitt who then resided in Buckingham County Virginia and by whom the applicant was raised as a stepfather now lives in this (Bledsoe) County & can testify that he entered the service of the United States as set forth in this declaration and returned from the war at the
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expiration of his several terms. He further states that he was born in Buckingham County in the State of Virginia on the 6th day of February 1760 – has no record of his age, but has the verbal account of his mother which he believes to be true. When called into service he lived in Buckingham County Virginia. 
After the revolutionary war he moved from Buckingham County to Washington County Virginia where he lived in the neighborhood of Kings Salt works about sixteen years – from there he removed to Rhea County, Tennessee where he lived one-year and from there to this (Bledsoe) County Tennessee where he now lives and has lived for about sixteen or seventeen years. He was drafted for six terms and went one (the last) as a substitute for William Gowen. – He received seven discharges given by his Captains, they are all destroyed or misplaced as stated above except one given by Captain Webb – one by Captain Ewel and one by Captain Cunningham which are herewith transmitted. 
He states that he is known to Col. Wm Brown deputy sheriff of Bledsoe County, Joseph McDowell and William Hall acting justices of the peace for said County in his neighborhood who can testify to his character for veracity and their belief of his service as a soldier of the revolution.
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He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the Agency of any State. 
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. 
Charles [his X mark] Thurman

Nehemiah Evitt, aged about 85 years also at the same time appeared personally in open Court and made oath that he was from a child well acquainted with Charles Thurman who subscribed the foregoing declaration – that he as a step-father raised said Thurman who lived with him in Buckingham County during the whole of the revolutionary war except the time that he was in the Army, that Thurman entered the service as stated in his declaration – Of the number of terms affiant has a distinct recollection. – Affiant was not in the Army – (he was prevented by bodily disability) but from his knowledge of Thurman in his services he verily believes he served out the time as stated in his declaration. 
Sworn to and subscribed the date aforesaid 
Nehemiah [his X mark] Evitt
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We William Brown, Joseph McDowell and William Hall residing in Bledsoe County Tennessee hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Charles Thurman who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be seventy two years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion. 
We also certify that we are well acquainted with Nehemiah Evitt who has subscribed and sworn to the above affidavit or certificate that he is entitled to full credit and that we believe him to be about the age he states. 
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid 
W. Brown 
Jos, McDowell 
Wm Hall 

State of Tennessee 
Bledsoe County, County Court, August Session 1832 
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he States. And the Court further certifies
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4957

Declaration

Charles Thurman
for a
Pension
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That Nehemiah Evitt, William Brown, Joseph McDowell and William Hall who have signed the preceding certificates are residents in the County of Bledsoe, and are credible persons and that their statements are entitled to credit – 

The State of Tennessee, 
I. Scott Terry Clerk of the County Court of Bledsoe County, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Charles Thurman for a pension. –

In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and private seal (not having a seal of Office) this 16th day of August 1832- 
(S.T.)
Scott Terry Clerk
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Know all men by these presents that I John Thurman of the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee do hereby irrevocably constitute and appoint Charles C Tucker of [of] Washington City D.C. my true and lawful agent and attorney to prosecute the claim of the heirs of Barbara Thurman deceased for any amount of Revolutionary Pension or increase of Pension that may be due under the provisions of the act of Eighteen hundred and thirty eight or any other act or resolution of Congress, and I hereby authorize my said attorney to examine all papers and documents in relation to said claim on file in the departments at Washington City or where to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive the certificate which may be issued for said claim, and to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed; and to do all things that I might or could do were I personally present. Hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said attorney may lawfully do in the premises. 
Witness my hand and seal this 11 day of January 1855. 
Signed sealed and executed in the presence of us. 
John Thurman {Seal}
William Brown
Thomas A Swafford 

State of Tennessee, Bledsoe County 
On this 19th day of January 1855, Before me an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid personally appeared John Thurman and acknowledged the foregoing power of attorney to be his act and deed for the purposes therein mentioned. 

State of Tennessee 
Bledson County - On this 11 day of January 1855, before me the undersigned an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid personally appeared John Thurman a resident of said County of Bledsoe, and made oath in due form of law that he is the identical John Thurman who executed the foregoing power of Attorney, and that he as one of the Children and heirs of Charles and Barbara Thurman deceased
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is directly interested in said claim, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my said attorney may be in prosecuting claim. 
John Thurman
Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and date above written 
George H. Finley 
Justice of the Peace for Bledsoe County 

State of Tennessee}
Bledsoe County} I James A Pankey Clerk of the County Court of Bledsoe County, hereby certify that George H Finley Esqr. before whom the foregoing affidavit and acknowledgement were made, and who has thereunto signed his name, was at the time of so doing a Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn, and that all his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto signed my name and affixed the Official seal of said Court, on this 23 day of January 1855 
James S. Pankey 
clerk of said Court
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State of Tennessee 
Bledsoe County –
I James S Pankey Clerk of the County Court of Bledsoe County State of Tennessee do hereby certify that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before said Court of the testimony of William Brown and Craven Shenell residents of said County and credible witnesses to prove that Charles Thurman a Revolutionary Pensioner died in Bledsoe County State of Tennessee on the sixteenth (16) day of December in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty eight (AD 1848) leaving a widow named Barbary Thurman who remained a widow from the death of her said husband until her own death which took place in Bledsoe County Tennessee On the fourteenth (14th) day of December in the year One thousand eight hundred and forty nine (AD 1849) and that the above named Barbary Thurman left the following children, all of whom are now living and are the only surviving children of the said Barbary Thurman deceased, towit, William Thurman, John Thurman, Frederick Thurman, Elizabeth Carnahan, Henry Thurman, Charles Thurman, and Margaret Thurman; and I do further certify that said County Court is a Court of Record - 
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of said Court at Office in Pikeville this 6th day of August 1855. 
James S. Pankey Clerk
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State of Tennessee 
Bledsoe County - Personally appeared before me James J Pope an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid William Brown and Craven Sherrell who being duly sworn according to law, upon their Oath, state, that they have resided in the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee for over thirty years. that they were well acquainted with Charles Thurman and his wife Barbary Thurman and the most of their family: that the said Charles Thurman was a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress of June 7th 1832, until his death: that he died in the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee on the 16th day of December 1848. That the said Charles Thurman and his wife Barbary Thurman came to the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee about the year 1817; that the said Charles Thurman was always reputed and believed to be a soldier of the Revolution; that he and the said Barbary lived together as husband and wife, and were always received and recognized as such ever after they came to Bledsoe County: that they had nine children towit, Mary Ann, Thomas, William, John, Frederic, Elizabeth, Henry, Charles and Margaret, that Mary Ann and Thomas, and now dead, William Thurman is the third child, is said to be fifty eight years of age at this time, and from his appearance, and the personal knowledge affiants know of him they let him to believe him to be that age; affiants further state that after the death of the said Charles Thurman, his wife the said Barbary Thurman remained a widow until her death, which took place on the 14th day of December 1849, in the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee; and that they are entirely disinterested. 
W Brown 
Craven Sherrell
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The foregoing affidavits of William Brown and Craven Sherrell were subscribed and sworn to before me this 6th day August 1855: and I certify that said witnesses are credible persons: and that I am not interested in this claim. 
James J Pope {seal} 
Justice of the peace for Bledsoe

State of Tennessee 
Bledsoe County - Personally appeared before me James J Pope an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, John Thurman a resident citizen of the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee, and made oath in due form of law, that he is the son of Charles and Barbary Thurman both now deceased; that his father the said Charles Thurman was a pensioner of the United States at the rate of Seventy dollars per annum; that his said father died on the 16th day of December 1848, that his mother remained a widow from the death of his father until her death which took place on the 14th day of December 1849. That he knows of no record, either public or private, of the date of their marriage; that there was a private record of their marriage once, that he has often seen, but the same is now lost and cannot be found, from his recollection of this record, as well as from frequent aminations had with his father and mother, he is certain that they are married in Washington County Virginia in the year Seventeen hundred and ninety (1790), that his oldest sister Mary Ann was born in 1791 that he John Thurman was born in the year 1800; 
John Thurman

Sworn to and subscribed before me this 6th day of August 1855 and I certify that said Thurman is a credible person; and that I am in no way interested in the result of the claim.
James T. Pope {seal}
Justice of the peace for Bledsoe Co.
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State of Tennessee 
Bledsoe County - I James S Pankey Clerk of the County Court of Bledsoe County do hereby certify that James J Pope Esquire whose official signature appears to the two affidavits and power of Attorney of John Thurman and the affidavits of William Brown and Craven Sherrell on this and the annexed sheet written, is now and was at the time of signing the same an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee, duly commissioned and qualified as such, and that his signatures so assigned as aforesaid are in his own proper hand writing, and are genuine –
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office at Office in Pikeville this 6th day of August A D 1855. 
James S Pankey Clerk
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[typed form]

July 1, 1939 
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
BA-J/MCS 
Charles Thurman, R.10582

Mr. Ted James Turman 
1601 Chapala Street 
Santa Barbara, California 

Dear Sir:

The data which follow were taken from papers on file in the pension claim, R.10582, based on the military service of Charles Thurman or Thurmon. 
Charles Thurman or Thurmon was born on February 6, 1760, in Buckingham County, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown. 
While a resident of Buckingham County, Virginia, he enlisted, date not given, and served at various times, amounting to about twenty- one months in all, as private with the Virginia troops under two different captains by the name of John Mosely, Captains Thomas Redd, Thomas W. Ewell Webb, Nathaniel Cunningham and Graves and Colonels Gibson and Buford, and he was discharged on November 7, 1781, from Captain Nathaniel Cunningham’s company. He was in the battle of Guilford Court House and the siege of Yorktown. 
After the close of the Revolutionary War, he moved to Washington County, Virginia, near King's Salt Works, from there to Rhea County, Tennessee, from there to Bledsoe County, Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 15, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Bledsoe County, Tennessee. 
Charles Thurman or Thurman died, December 16, 1848. 
He married, July 29, 1790, in Lee County, Virginia, Barbara Picknell. She died on December 14, 1849, in Bledsoe County, Tennessee, leaving the following children: William who was fifty-eight years of age in 1855,
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John who was born in 1800 and was living in Bledsoe County, Tennessee, in 1855, Frederic, Elizabeth Carnahan, Henry, Charles, and Margaret Thurman, Mary Ann who was born in 1791 and Thomas Thurman or Thurmon did not survive their mother. 

Nehemiah Evitt who was living in Bledsoe County, Tennessee, in 1832 aged about eighty-five years, in 1832 was the stepfather of the Revolutionary War soldier, Charles Thurman or Thurmon, 

Reference was also made to one Eli Thurmon, relationship not shown. 

There are no further data relative to family, 

Very truly yours 

D. HILLER 
Executive Assistant 
to the administrator
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[left side] 10,582 
P. O. Barbara Thurman

Service:
[stamped] REJECTED
Enlisted:      , 18
Discharged:     , 18 

Application filed:       , 18
List of 1852 gives full reason for suspension for proof marriage & of the children births:

Alleges: 

Re-enlisted: 

Attorney: C13644 

P. O. 
___ Recognized. --- Contract. 

[right side] 1929 Mar. 7, hist. to J. Rose Thurman M.C.S.
1939 July 1, hist. to Mrs. Ted James Turman M.C.S.
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[This] is to Sertify [certify] that Charles Thurman was enrolled [in] Col. Gibsons Rigment [Regiment] August The 17 1780 & is intituled [entitled] to his discharge Apreil [April] the 17 day 1781 Being one of the Eight monts [months] men 
Thos W Ewell Catn
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Charles Thurman or Thurmon
R10582
Va.
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Febuary [February] 26 1780 [or 1781] 
Charles Thurman [illegibly faint word or words] in my Company having Served his time agreeable to an act of assembly of the State of Virginia he is hearby [hereby] Discharged from the Service given under my hand at Banister [faint word possible Virginia] 
T. Webb ?
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The number of Children coming by the 27 1781

2
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[A discharge signed by Nath'l Cunningham, Capt., the text of which is mostly illegible]
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[top cut off] 3 discharge [Illegible]
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Charles Thurman
-----Ten.

Lee letter Nov. 7 18[cut off]
R. King P. Agt.
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No 13984
Barbara Thurman
Ten.
[several words crossed out]

[Illegible] 31 1851

10582
Act 7 July 38
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House of Rept [Representatives]
Dec 17th/50 

Sir;

Enclosed you will hand same conterating [containing] proof in the case of Mrs. Thurman for Pension - she is quite an aged lady and no doubt the papers are correct –

Verry Respect 
M. Anderson 

Hon J E. Heath
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Free

[J. L. Edwards] Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City D. C.
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State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County.} 
April 24th 1837 
Conformably to the Regulations of the War Department of the 19th Jut 1821, I, Alfred Swaford a Magistrate in the county above named, do hereby certify, that I have the most satisfactory evidence, viz: from the Oaths of Eli. Thurman and James Schoolfield and of my own knowledge that Charles Thurman who has this day appeared before me to take the oath of identity, is the identical person named in the pension certificate, which he has exhibited before me, numbered 13644 and bearing date at the War Office, the 29th day of May 1833; that the said certificate was originally issued for him; that he now holds the same in his possession, and claims all the benefits arising therefrom . 
GIVEN under my hand, at office on the day and year above written Alfred Swafford
Justice of the Peace. 

I, John Bridgman Clerk of the Court of Bledsoe County, certify that Alfred Swafford is a Magistrate as above, and that the foregoing signature, purporting to be his, is genuine. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto affixed my Private Seal having no public seal of office, and subscribed my name, this 1st day of May in the year 1837 
J. Bridgman 
Clerk of the Court of Bledsoe County Court 

{L. S.}
Test
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The State of Tennessee 
I, James Standefer, do hearby [hereby] Cer[tify] that John Bridgman, whose name is assigned, to the within Identity is the Clerk of Bledsoe County Court 
Given under my hand this 12th May 1837. 
James Standefer 
Member] of Congress
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Charles Thurman
Bledsoe Co.
Ten.
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Charles Thurman which require further proof or explanation.

1.  Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes

II.  Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes

III.  If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?

IV.  Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? No

V.  *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes

VI.  Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes

VII.  Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes

VIII.  Has the Court given their opinion? Yes

IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes

X.  Is the Clerk’s seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Private Seal.
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XI.  Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Certified by three citizens

XII.  If the clergyman’s affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? no

XIII.  If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?

XIV. If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? Certified by the Court 

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes 

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No 

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?

EXPLANATORY NOTES.
*QUERE V.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For          year             months, and               days, I served as a                For          months and              days, I served as a             ; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is to indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. 
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service. 
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the affidavits must be properly authenticated, as above directed. 
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers. 
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 

*In every case where the Clerk of the Court, or other certifying officer has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the Official character and signature of the certifying officer, should be sent with the papers.
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Agents Office East Tennessee 
Knoxville October 25 1837 

Sir –

In the cases of Stephen Brown, Daniel Boyles and Charles Thurman Revolutionary pensioners under the act 7 June 1832, which papers was returned to me per your letter under date of the 23 day of May 1837, under a belief that fraud had been committed by same person in signing Col James Standefer’s name as a member of Congress; which fact appears to from the best information I can obtain from the Col’s Neighbours -; yet I was unable to procure proof on any one of the facts-- although I made Diligent enquirys [inquiries]; and owing to the sudden death of Col Standefer who was on his way to Congress said about forty miles west of [Pikeville?], which I hope to be able to confer with the Col on the subject which have totally put it out of my power of ferreting out the offender in those cases, 
I again take the liberty to enclose to you their papers and ask you what I shall do for those poor old soldiers of the Revolution; shall they be prevented of Drawing their money by themselves or through an other [another] attorney, Mr. James P. Spring who are [is] the attorney for them I consider to be a man of integrity and have no hesitation to think he is clear of the charges. Mr. Spring have enclosed to me some certificates which you will please find enclosed, Examine them
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for what they are worth 
My hope is that you will so instruct that I will be able to pay those old men when the papers may come to me in due form 
The original certificate is in my possession 
I am Respectfully your obt. Sevt. [obedient servant]
A. F. [Piny?] Agent

J. L. Edwards Esq 
Commissioner of Pensions 
Washington City
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Agents Office East Tennessee 
Knoxville March 2nd 1838. 

Sir,

you will please find hearwith [herewith] enclosed the Application of Mr. Charles Thurman a pensioner of under the act 7 June 1832. Claiming his pension from the 4 day of March 1836 up to 4 September 1837 – I discovered from the examination of my Books that they are due him a pension from the 4 day of March 1836. I have his original pension certificate in my passion, Mr. Thurman is one of those three persons who is suspended on the Ground of Colo Standefers name being forged as member of Congress I interrigated [interrogated] him Verry [very] Clare [clear] on the subject and could not ascertain anything different on the subject Therman is quite a frail man; I hope the papers sent you will be satisfactory to you and that you will [be] able to order the payments to him
I am respectfully your obt Sevt [obedient Servant], 
A. F. [Piny?] Agent 

J. L Edwards Esq 
Commissioner of Pensions 
Washington City
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Treasury Department, 
SECOND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, 

June 11, 1838. 

Sir,

Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States, Charles Thurman a Pensioner on the Roll of the Knoxville, Tennessee Agency, at the rate of Seventy Dollars and --- per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832 has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of March 1836 to the 4th of September 1837 

Respectfully yours
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller

To the COMMISSIONER OF PENSIONS. 
Present.
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William Brown Esq
21 Nov 1849
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471     (125 

Pension Office
Novem [November] 21st 1849 

Sir,

The papers in the case of Barbara Thurman widow of Charles Thurman who claims a pension under the act of 7 July 1838 have been examined and her papers filed. 
Mrs. Thurmans declaration is defective. She has not stated the date of her husbands death. She should file a new declaration in conformity with the enclosed printed instructions, and establish the date of her marriage is a copy of the bond or license from the Clerks office in the County in which the rites were performed. 
The evidence in relation to the marriage now furnished is not at all satisfactory 

William Brown Esq 
Pikeville Ten.
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Washington D.C. August 25th 1848. 

Hon J. Minot 
Commissioner of Pensions 

Sir. 

Enclosed please find additional evidence for the Revolutionary Pension Claim of Barbara Thurman widow of Charles of Tenn. 
The claim is filed under the act of July 7. 1838 but I respectfully ask that it be examined and acted upon as if filed under the act of July 29 1848.  

Very respectfully 
Your Obt Sert [Obedient Servant]
Chas. C. Tucker
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Hon. J. M. Anderson
15 Augt [August] 1850
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336 

Pension Office
Augt [August] 15 1850 

Sir,

A I herewith return the letter of Mr. W. Brown, and that from the office of the 21 Novm [November] last. The case of Barbara Thurman widow of Charles Thurman widow at 7th July 1838 and have to state that if there be a family record of the marriage or of the birth, of the children it should be exhibited, or if there be a family record or authenticated copy may be produced.

Hon. J. M. Anderson 
H. R.
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C. C. Tucker
Sept. 1/55
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Pension Office 
Sept 1st 1855 

Sir,

The additional evidence in support of the claim of Barbara Thurman, deceased, widow of Charles of Tennessee, under the act of July 7th 1838, or July 29th 1848, does not establish the date her marriage. The testimony of John Thurman , her son, being that of a party directly interested, is inadmissible. The claimants were long since requested to produce the original family record, but have never complied with that request 

C.C. Tucker Esq 
Present
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House of Rept [Representatives] July 29 [Illegible] 

Sir

enclosed I send you the letter of Mr. Brown & [came?] from your Office – I saw nothing of the case & can gather but little from the paper that I have please examine & suggest the necessary proof 
Very Respectfully 
Yours J. M. Anderson

Col. J. L. Edwards
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State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County County Court} February Term 1833 

On this Ninth day of February 1833 personally appeared in Open Court before the worshipful justice of the County Court of Bledsoe County now sitting, Charles Thurman a resident of the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee aged now seventy three years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following amended declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 
He states in addition to the facts set forth in his declaration made on the 15th day of August 1832 in the Court aforesaid that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively to the periods of the war when he was in the service, further than he has now in his original declaration and can only refer to the events and occurrences which he relates, to fix the dates of his service in the instances in which his discharges do not fix it. He states that he can prove a portion of his services in the revolutionary war in the Virginia Militia by Stephen Brown a resident citizen of Bledsoe County Tennessee. He states that he is known in his present neighborhood by William Nail a clergyman, William Hall, Joseph McDowell and Colonel William Brown who can testify as to his char-
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[charac]ter for veracity, and their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution. 
Charles [his X mark] Thurman
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid

We William Nail a clergyman, William Hall and Joseph McDowell all residing in the County of Bledsoe and State of Tennessee do certify that we are well acquainted with Charles Thurman who subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that he is the identical person who made the original declaration on the 15th day of August 1832 hereto prefixed, that we believe him now to be seventy three years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion –
William Nail 
Wm Hall 
John Dowell

Subscribed & sworn to the day & year aforesaid 

State of Tennessee 
Bledsoe County County Court February Session 1833 
And the said Court do hereby again declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter the interrogatories prescribed by the war department having heretofore been put that
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the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states, and the court further certifies that it appears to them that William Nail who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the County of Bledsoe and that William Hall and Joseph McDowell who have also signed the same are residents of said County and are credible persons and that their statements are entitled to credit. 

The State of Tennessee
I Scott Terry clerk of the County court of Bledsoe County do certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the amended declaration of Charles Thurman for a pension. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and private seal, not having a seal of office, this 11th day of February 1833 
{L.S.}  Scott Terry clk [Clerk]

State of Tennessee
I James Standifer member of Congress from the third congressional district in the State of Tennessee do hereby
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certify that Scott Perry Esquire whose signature appears to the two preceding certificates, is now and was at the time of making the same Clerk of the county court of Bledsoe County - that due faith and credit are and ought to be given to his official acts as such, - that the same is his genuine signature and that his said certificate are in due form of law and that there is no seal of office for said Court
Given under my hand this 16th day of March 1833 
James Standefer
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certify that Scott Terry Esquire whose signature appears to the two preceding certificates, is now, and was at the time of making the same clerk of the county court of Bledsoe County - that due faith and credit are and ought to be given to his official acts as such -- that the same is his genuine signature and that his said certificate are in due form of law and that there is no seal of office for said Court 
Given under my hand this 16th day of March 1833 
James Standefer
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

Know all Men by the Presents, That I, Charles Thurmon of Bledsoe County and State of Tennessee, a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States, do hereby constitute and appoint James P. Spring my true and lawful attorney, for me, and in my name, to receive from the Agent of the United States for paying pensions, in East Tennessee, my pension from the 4th day of September 1836 to the 4th day of March 183. Witness my hand and seal, this 24th day of April 1837 
Sealed and delivered} Charles [his X mark] Thurmon {L. S.}
in presence of} 
Alfred Swafford 
Jos L. Schoolfield 

State of Tennessee Bledsoe County. Be it Known, That on the 24th day of April 1837 before the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, personally appeared Charles Thurmon above named, and acknowledged the foregoing power of attorney to be his act and deed. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand the day and year last above mentioned. 
Alfred Swafford 
Justice of the peace {L. S.}

State of Tennessee, County. Be it known, That on the     day of    183 before the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, personally appeared      the attorney named in the foregoing power of attorney, and made oath that the same was not given him by reason of any sale, transfer or mortgage of the pension, or arrears of pension therein authorised [authorized] to be received by him. 
Sworn and subscribed the day and year last above mentioned, before me,}

State of Tennessee, Bledsoe County. 
I, John Bridgman Clerk of the County Court in and for the county and State aforesaid, do certify, that Alfred Swofford Esq. whose name appears to the within power of attorney, is now, and was at the time of signing the same, an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said county, and that his signature appears to be in his own proper hand writing. 
Given under my hand and Private seal of office, at office in Pikeville the first day of May A.D. 1837
J. Bridgman Clk [Clerk]
{L. S.}
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

Know all Men by these Presents, That I, Charles Thurmon of Bledsoe County and State of Tennessee, a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States, do hereby constitute and appoint James Spring my true and lawful attorney, for me, and in my name, to receive from the Agent of the United States for paying pensions in East Tennessee, my Pension from the 4th day of March 1836 to the 4th of September 1836 Witness my hand and seal, this 26th day of September 1836
Sealed and delivered in presence of} Charles [his X mark] Thurmon {L. S.}
Andrew Lowe 
James L. Schoolfield 

State of Tennessee, Bledsoe County, BE IT KNOWN, That on the 26th day of September 1836 before the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, personally appeared Charles Thurmon above named, and acknowledged the foregoing power of attorney to be his act and deed. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand the day and year last above mentioned.
James L Schoolfield 
Andrew Lowe {L. S.}
Justice of the Peace 

State of Tennessee, Knox County. BE IT KNOWN, That on the 27th day of March 1837 before the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, personally appeared James Springs the Attorney named in the foregoing power of attorney, and made oath that the same was not given him by reason of any sale, transfer or mortgage of the Pension, or arrears of Pension therein authorised [authorized] to be received by him. 
Sworn and subscribed the day and year last above mentioned, before me.} J. P. Spring
Wm. Lindsey
Justice of peace Knox County. 

State of Tennessee, Bledsoe County, I John Bridgman CLERK of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions in and for the county and State aforesaid, DO CERTIFY, that Andrew Lowe Esq. whose name appears to the within power of attorney, is now, and was at the time of signing the same, an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said county, and that his signature appears to be in his own proper hand writing. 
Given under my hand and Private seal of office, at office in Pikesville the 22nd day of March A.D. 1837 
{L. S.}
J. Bridgeman Clk [Clerk]
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

State of Tennessee, Bledsoe County.

BE IT KNOWN, That before me, Alfred Swafford a Justice of the Peace in and for the county aforesaid, personally appeared Charles Thurmon and made oath in due form of law, that he is the identical Charles Thurmon named in an original certificate in his possession, of which I certify the following is a true copy. 

War Department. 
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I Certify, THAT in conformity with the Law of the United States of the 7th of June, 1832, Charles Thurman of the State of Tennessee who was a Private in the Army of the Revolution is entitled to receive Seventy dollars cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually 4th of March, and 4th of September, in every year. 
GIVEN at the War Office of the United States, this 29th day of May one thousand eight hundred and Thirty three
Lew Cass 
Secretary of War.
Examined and countersigned.} 
J. L. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions

That he is entitled to a pension of Seventy Dollars per annum, on account of wounds and disabilities received, or of services rendered to the United States during the Revolutionary War; that he served Captain Redd company of Militia in the regiment; that he now resides in Bledsoe County Tennessee and has resided there for the space of twenty years past; and that previous thereto, he resided in Buckingham County Virginia 
Sworn and subscribed this 24th day of} 
April 1837 before me,}
Alford Swafford 
Justice of the peace for
Bledsoe County 
Charles [his X mark] Thurmon
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4957
Charles Thurman
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State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} February the 12th 1833 

This day personally appeared before me Elisha Kirklin an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County of Bledsoe aforesaid Stephen Brown [pension # S. 1749] a resident citizen of the said County who being first duly sworn according to law deposeth and saith that he is well acquainted with Charles Thurman who has made out a declaration in order to obtain a pension under the provisions of the Act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832. That he and the said Charles Thurman resided in the same neighborhood in Buckingham County State of Virginia previous to, and throughout the whole of the revolutionary war. That he and the said Thurman were in the service of the United States in the Virginia Militia in the company commanded by Captain Thomas Redd and stationed at Albemarle Barracks in guarding the prisoners taken at Burgoyne's defeat – but he cannot remember the year nor the length of the said Thurman's service there. 
He was at another time in the service with said Charles Thurman and in the same company under the command of Captain Thos [Thomas] W Ewell – he and the said Thurman were messmates, and marched together from Buckingham to Petersburg, Hillsboro, Salisbury and to Cheraw Hills where they were than
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stationed for a time under General Greene & with him marched back through the country to the Dan River. Affiant cannot remember at what place he was discharged, but thinks he left the said Thurman still in the service. Affiant is unable from defect of memory to state how long Thurman served this tour but believes it was eight months – nor can he state the date of it. He and the said Thurman were [in] another tour in the service together under Captain Graves and were stationed together at Hillsboro he cannot remember the length of the tour nor the date. Affiant knows that the said Charles Thurman was out other trips than those in which they were together but cannot state how many nor the length of them. He recollects that the said Thurman substituted for another man and was out in the service at the time Cornwallis was taken, and always understood that said Thurman was in the battle at Little York, of which fact he has no doubt. Affiant has been acquainted with the said Charles Thurman ever since he was about ten years old, and believes him now to be about seventy three years of age. 
Stephen [his X mark] Brown

Subscribed and sworn to before me the date above 
Elisha Kirklin J. P. 

And I the said Elisha Kirklin a justice as aforesaid do certify that the said Stephen Brown who subscribed and was sworn to the foregoing affidavit
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is a resident citizen of the said County of Bledsoe, that he appears to be about the age of Seventy five or six years, and that he is a man of credibility, and I do hereby declare my opinion that his statement is true and entitled to credit- 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name the day and year last aforesaid 
Elisha Kirklen 
Justice of the peace for Bledsoe County 

State of Tennessee 
I Scott Terry Clerk of the County Court of Bledsoe County do certify that Elisha Kirklin whose signature appears to the foregoing certificate, is and was at the time of signing the same an acting justice of the peace in and for the County of Bledsoe aforesaid duly commissioned and qualified, - that the same is his genuine signature, and that due faith and credit are given to all his official sets as such. 
{L. S.} In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my private seal (not having a seal of office) this 12th day of February 1833 
Scott Terry clk [Clerk]
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State of Tennessee 
I James Standifer member of Congress from the third congressional district in the State of Tennessee do certify that Scott Terry whose signature appear to the foregoing certificate, is now, and was at the time of making the same clerk of the County Court of Bledsoe County - That due faith and credit are and ought to be given to his official acts as such, - That the same is his genuine signature, and that his certificate is in due form of law - and that there is no seal of office for said Court 
Given under my hand this 16th day of March 1833 
James Standifer
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State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} Personally appeared before us Shemwell Parham, and Samuel Rankin, acting Justices of the Peace in and for said County Andrew Lowe and made oath in due form of law that Stephen Brown a revolutionary pensioner who departed this life about the first day of September last did acknowledge before him as Justice of the peace the execution of the Powers of Attorney authorizing James P. Spring as his attorney in fact to receive from the Pension agent of East Tennessee at Knoxville his pension which was due him from the fourth day of March 1836 to the fourth day of March 1837 and that the same was done willingly and without fraud or collection.
Sworn to and subscribed before us this 14th day of October A.D. 1837 

Shemwell Parham J. P. Andrew Lowe J P 
Saml [Samuel] Rankin 
Justices of the peace
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The State of Tennessee
I James A. Tallop, Clerk of Bledsoe County Court, do hearby [hereby] certify that Andrew Lowe Shemwell Parham and Saml [Samuel] Rankin are Justices of the peace for Bledsoe County, duly Elected and qualifyed [qualified] as such, and that there signature appears to be in these own proper hand writing 
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hands and private Seal not having a public seal of office at Office in Pikeville this 16th day of October 1837 – 
{L. S.} James A. Tallop Clk [Clerk]
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State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} Personally appeared before us Andrew Lowe, Shamwell Parham, and Samuel Rankin, acting Justices of the Peace in and for said County Daniel Broyles and Charles Thurmon Revolutionary Pensioners, and made oath in due form of Law, that they authorized and empowered and by their own free will and consent without fraud or collusion gave unto James P. Spring full power and authority to receive of and from the Pension agent for East Tennessee at Knoxville their pensions which was due them from the fourth day of March 1836 to the fourth day of March 1837 and that said Spring was their true and lawful attorney in fact. 
Sworn to and subscribed before us this 14th day of October A.D. 1837 
Daniel [his X mark] Broyles
Charles [his X mark] Thurmon

Andrew Lowe 
Shamwell Parham J.P. 
Saml Rankin 
Justices of the peace
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13984
Barbarby [Barbary] Thurman
wid [widow] of Charles
Ten.
Act 7 July 1838
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State of Tennessee}
Bledsoe County} This day personally appeared before me William Brown an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid Barbara Thurman who being by me first duly sworn according to law depose and says that she is the widow of Charles Thurman and was a private in the army of the Revolution and was a pensioner to the time of his death and that a certificate issued to him from the War Department dated the 29th day of May 1833 Which has been returned to the Pension Office at Washington City. She further makes oath that [Illegible] to her age and infirmities she is unable to appear before a Court of Record to make her statement. 
She further makes oath she was regularly married to the said Charles Thurman on the 29 day of July 1790 and continue his wife untill [until] his death. 
Barbara [her X mark] Thurman
Sworn to & subscribed before me the 31 day} 
of July 1849}
William Brown} 
Justice of the Peace} 
for Bledsoe County}
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State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} County Court August Session 
This day personally appeared in open Court Philip S. Hutcherson. and Jonathan Clark two respectable citizen of said County who being duly sworn according to law depose and say that they are personally acquainted with Barbara Thurman the person named in the foregoing affidavit and know her to be the widow of Charles Thurman who was a pensioner under the laws of the United States as a private in the Army of the Revolution that they have known the said Charles Thurman and Barbara Thurman for a period of fifteen years and that they lived together during that time as husband & wife and were universally reputed to be husband & wife during that time in their neighborhood and that they continued to live together as such until the death of said Charles Thurman They further state that owing to the age & infirmity of the said Barbara Thurman she is unable to appear before a Court of record and make her statement. 
Sworn to & subscribed in open Court the 6th day of August 1849 
Philip S Hutcheson 
Jonathan Clark
Sworn to and subscribed in open Court the day and date above written
Tho W Hale Clerk
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State of Tennessee}
Bledsoe County} I Thos W. Hale - Clerk of the County Court for the County of Bledsoe do hereby certify that William Brown whose name appears to the foregoing affidavit of Barbara Thurman is and was at that time an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid and that full faith and credit as such are due to all his official acts. I further certify that the County of Bledsoe is a Court of record. 
August 6 1849 – 
Tho W. Hale Clerk 

State of Tennessee} 
Bledsoe County} I Saml [Samuel] Rankin Chairman the County Court of said County do certify that Thomas W. Hale is and was at the time of the date of this paper the Clerk of Bledsoe County Court given in my hand and seal this 9th day of August 1849 
Saml [Samuel] Rankin {Seal}
Chairman of Bledsoe County Court
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Chs. [Charles] Thurman
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

STATE OF TENNESSEE, Bledsoe COUNTY.
Be it Known, THAT before me, Andrew Lowe a Justice of the Peace in and for the county aforesaid, personally appeared Charles Thurmon and made oath in due form of law, that he is the identical Charles Thurmon named in the original certificate in his possession, of which I certify the following is a true copy: 

War Department. 
Revolutionary Claim 
I CERTIFY, THAT in conformity with the Law of the United States of the 7th June 1832 Charles Thurman of the State of Tennessee who was a private in the army of the Revolution is entitled to receive Seventy dollars -- cents per annum during his natural life commencing on the 4th of March 1831 and payable semi annually on the 4th March and 4th September in every year
[several Illegible lines crossed out]

Given at the War Office of the United States, this 29th day of May one thousand eight hundred and Thirty three. 
Lew Cass Secretary of War. 
Examined and countered signed} J. L. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions
That he is entitled to a Pension of Seventy Dollars per annum on account of wounds and disabilities received, or of services rendered to the United States during the Revolutionary War; that he served Captain Redd company of Militia in the regiment; that he now resides in Bledsoe County, Tennessee and has resided there for the space of Twenty years past; and that previous thereto he resided in Buckingham County Virginia. 
Sworn and subscribed this 26th day of September 1836 before me,} 
Charles [his X mark] Thurmon
Andrew Lowe 
Justice of the Peace
James S. Schofield
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Bureau of Pension 
U. S. Dept of Interior 
Washington, D. C. 

Gentleman:
Please give me all data that you have of Charles Thurman (sometimes written Shurman) shown in 6th Census of U. S. - June 1, 1840 as living in 3rd District of Bledsoe, County Tennessee, 86 years of age and a Revolutionary War Pensioner. 

Yours truly 
J. Ross Thurman 
1012 Penn Place
Tucson Arizona
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

Tucson, Arizona 
1012 Penn Place, 
February 25, 1929

U. S. Bureau of Pensions, 
Mr. Winfield Scott,
Washington, D. C. 

Dear Sir: - 

Sometime ago -- three months perhaps, I wrote requesting all information in your possession in regard to Charles Thurman, Revolutionary Pensioner from Bledsoe County, Tennessee. He enlisted from another State -- I am not sure which, but he was a resident of Bledsoe Co., in 1840 and was at that time 86 years old according to the 6th U. S. Census.

May I have this information as quickly as possible as matters of importance to me hinges upon this record. 

Very truly yours, 
J. Ross Thurman

[circular stamp] PENSION MAR 2 1929 OFFICE U. S.
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

[written on a slant] This goes in the case of Charles

1501 CHAPALA STREET. 
SANTA BARBARA, CALIF.
JANUARY, 1ST, 1939.

VETERANS BUREAU 
WASHINGTON D. C. 

SIRS: 
I AM COMPILING GENEALOGY AND A HISTORY OF THE TURMAN FAMILIES IN THE UNITED STATES. AFTER A CAREFUL SEARCH OF BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY COVERING THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF VIRGINIA, WHICH INCLUDES BOTETOURT AND MONTGOMERY COUNTIES I FIND THE FOLLOWING RECORDS ON MY FAMILY AND THEIR SERVICE IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR. 
0 no BENJAMAN TURMAN [written on side – No Turmans Rev.] or Thurman RECOMMENDED AS FIRST ENSIGN OF [OF] MILITIA IN THE 75TH REGIMENT COMPOSED OF THE CO. OF MONTGOMERY 3 APR. 1793; 4 SEPT. 1993 
0 no BENJAMIN THURMAN APPOINTED ENSIGN 14 MAR, 1787 BOTETOURT CO. 

VIRGINIA REV. SOLDIERS RECEIVING BOUNTY LAND WARANTS [WARRANTS]: 
2 here-  CHARLES TURMAN, SOLDIER INFANTRY
3 " JOHN here " " "
0 MOSES " " "
3 here WILLIAM " " "
CAPT. RICHARD THURMAN 
[arrow from William] 3 here WILLIAM THURMAN (SALLY JONES AND OTHERS) 

REVOLUTIONARY LAND SCRIPT: 
2 Chas. here CHARLES THURMAN SERGEANT CONTINENTAL LINE
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-2 – 

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT PENSIONS, AS WELL AS LANDS, WERE APPLIED FOR BY THESE SOLDIERS OF THEIR FAMILIES. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO OBTAIN FROM YOU PEOPLE TRANSCRIBED COPIES OF THESE APPLICATIONS OR TRANSCATIONS [TRANSACTIONS] AS THEY WOULD NO DOUBT CONTAIN VALUABLE GENEALOGICAL INFORMATION? 

IT IS ALL POSSIBLE I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE INFORMATION ALONG THIS LINE AND TRUST THAT I MAY HEAR FROM YOU SOON. 

YOURS TRULY
Ted James Turman 
TED JAMES TURMAN
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[circular stamp with Numbers 1 -12 around the outside] RECEIVED JAN 6 1939 MAIL SUB-DIV, VETS. ADM. READER #34
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[typed form]

July 1, 1939

XXXXXXXXXXXXX

BA-J/MMHF:MLB

Mr. Ted James Turman 
1501 Chapala Street 
Santa Barbara, California 

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of soldiers of Virginia with the name Benjamin, Charles, John, Moses and William Thurman, Thurmond or Turman. 

Revolutionary War data furnished by the Veterans Administration are obtained from claims for pension or bounty land which have been made to the United States based upon service in that war. 

The demand for information in regard to soldiers of that war is very great and the trained clerical force available for that particular work is somewhat limited. Because of this, it is impossible to make for one person or organization a series of investigations and reports relative to those soldiers. 

Those records have been searched and no claims for pension or bounty land found based upon service in the Revolutionary War of a Benjamin, Moses or Richard Thurman under any spelling of that surname. The record of one Charles Thurman (R. 105822), one John Thurman (W. 28009) and one William Thurmond (Ctf. No. 894) are furnished you herewith. 

Very truly yours 
A. D. HILL ER
Executive Assistant 
to the Administrator
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Rev. & 1812 War Section 

March 7, 1929

J. Ross Thurman 
1012 Penn Place 
Tucson, Arizona 

Sir: 

I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, R. 10582, it appears that Charles Thurman or Thurmon was born February 6, 1760, in Buckingham County, Virginia.

While a resident of that county he enlisted, date not stated, and served at various times, about twenty-one months in all, with the Virginia troops as a private under two captions by them of the John Mosely, Captains Thomas Redd, Thomas W. Ewell, Webb, Nathan Cunningham and Graves and Colonel Gibson and Buford, and he was discharged November 7, 1781 from Captain Nathaniel Cunningham's Company. [written on side - did not use dates on first two discharges as they over lap.] He was in the battle of Guilford Court House and the siege of Yorktown. 

After the Revolution he moved to Washington County, Virginia, near King’s, Salt Works, from there to Rhea County, Tennessee, from there to Bledsoe County, Tennessee. 

He was allowed pension on his application executed August 15, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Bledsoe County, Tennessee.
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In 1832 his stepfather, Nehemiah Evitt, was age about eighty-five years. 

Charles Thurman or Thurmon died December 16, 1846. 

He married July 29, 1790, in Lee County, Virginia, Barbara Picknell. She died December 14, 1849, in Bledsoe County, Tennessee, leaving the following children: William [^ 58 in 1855], John [^ res. Bledsoe Co. Tenn. in 1855] who was born in 1800, Frederic, Elizabeth Carnahan, Henry, Charles and Margaret Thurman. The following children of Charles and Barbara Thurman or Thurmon did not survive their mother, Mary Ann who was born in 1791 and Thomas.

Respectfully, 

WINFIELD SCOTT 
Commissioner