Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 3,835, for William Liddell, South Carolina
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SC
Liddell, William
Ruth
W.3835
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3642
Georgia
Ruth Liddell widow of Wm. Liddell
who was a Private in the Revolution

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 50 Dollars  Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.

Certificate of Pension issued the 76th day of Dec 1843 and sent to Wm. Malbie
Lawrenceville, Georgia

[Act of March 3, 1843.]
Recorded in Book A
Vol. 1 Page 214.

Revoluto
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Georgia 16980.

William Liddell of ............in the State of GA who was a Priv. in the...........commanded by Captain ------------of the Regh commanded by Col Pickens in the S.Car. line for 15 months.

Inscribed on the Roll of Georgia at the rate of 50 Dollars..........Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension Fund the 21, day of March, 43 and died 11m Maltbie
Lawrenceville, GA

Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1833.            125
Semi-anl. allowance ending ...near 34     25
                                                              $150
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Clath;  Rice Clerk,
Book E Vol. 6 Page 96
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A momarandum of time William Liddell was married Feb the 3 day 1784
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The Onfession of Faith of the
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Amended

Com. Lyddell
Georgia
CP 21785

Admit as a private
15 mo $50
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War Department,
Pension Office
April 13, 1838

Sir:

The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned.  The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form.  On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed.  The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done.  Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus:}).  You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them;  and you will, be complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.

A Statement, showing the Serivce of Com Lyddell

Period when the service was rendered:   1776, 1778 Vol., 1779 Vol., 1780 Vol., about first August 1781 Vol., 1782 Vol.

Duration of claimant's service. (Years, months, days):  about 1, 3 or more, believe 2 or more, about 2, about 5 or more, about 1, 1 = 15.

Rank of the claimant:  Private

Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served:  Capt. Tom Baskins, Capt. ...McCall, Capt. Andrew Miller, Capt. Wm. Baskins, Capt. ...McColl, Capt. Moses Liddell, Capt. Baskins.

Names and Rank of the General and Field officers:  Maj. Pickens, Genl Williamson, Genl. Crowe, Col. Pickens, Col. McDougall, Col Elijah Clark, Col. Picken, Gel Pickens.

Battles in which the applicant was engaged.

Country through which he marched:  through the indian lands to N.C.

Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period:  70 years, Ninety six District, So. Ca.

Evidence by which the declaration is supported:  Traditionary

I am respectfully, Your obedient servant,
J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions.
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Regulations Under the Act of June 7, 1832.

The following regulations have been adopted:

This law has been construed to extend, as welll to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on the board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.

Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1.  The Regular Troops.
2.  The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3.  Persons employed in the Naval service.
4.  Indian Spies.

As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides.  And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.

Declaration,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.

State, Territory, or District of    }
County of                                 }
On this     day of      personally appeared (a) before   A.B. a resident (b) if     in the county of      and STate, Territory or District of     aged (c)    years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration , in order to obtain the benefit of the provion made by the act of Congress, (asset) served in the     (e) regiment of the     line, under the following named officers:

{Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers;  the time he left the service;  (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;)  the town or county and State in which he resided when he enered the service;  the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marked.  This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, name, &c}

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of        .
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.                   A.B.
{And then will follow the certificate of the Court.}
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I            of the Court of         do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of            for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this    day of    &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration , cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A.B., a Clergyman, residing in the    and C.D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with      , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration;  that we believe him to be    years of age;  that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
{And then will follow the certificate of the Court.}
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states.  And the Court  furthere certifies, that it appears to them that A.B.    who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the       and that C.D
who has also signed the e same is a resident in the      and is a credible person, that their statement is entitled to credit.
I,    Clerk of the court of    do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the Court, in the matter of the application of    for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and sel of the office, this   day of   &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power.  This is the original discharge or commission;  but if neither of these can be obtainedd, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whethere he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department.  A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case.  The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted;  and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected.  All applicants will appear before some Court of 
Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, accordinig to the nature of his case.
The Court will propose the folowing (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1.  Where and in what year were you born?
2.  Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3.  Where were you living when called into service;  where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4.  How were you called into service;  were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute?  And if a substitute, for whom?
5.  State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served;  such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your services.
6.  [To a Soldier.{Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?
{To an Officer. {Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7.  State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons - one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion.  If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party.  And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from, bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever of any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justic of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832, and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.

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(a) The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity;  in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
(b)  The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides.  If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
(c)  The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
(d)  The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
(c)  Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had.  Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language as definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:  For-----year-----months, and-----days, I serviced as a ----- -----.  For-----months and -----days, I served as a -----; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia &c without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable.  It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competant authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
(f)  The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
(g) The opinion of the Court is always required.
(h)  The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
(i) The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and the signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which can raise the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office or the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.
(j)  In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and the signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal off office.
The notes from (a) to (i) are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops.  The proof required by rule of not (j) applies to continental troops only.
(k) This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
(l) If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
(m)  The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

This applicant shall state his service agreeable to the ..............and give the length of each tour.
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m. 184.1839.

5229
Declaration 
Ruth Liddell
Wid of William 
Ga Act July 7, 1838
married 1784
died 23 Aug 1836
allow $50 pension 
per Aug 23, 1836





Mss Matthre
Lawrenceville GA
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Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of the 7th July 1838 entitled or an act granting half pay and pensions to certain Widows

State of Georgia
Gwinnett County

On this 9th day of April 1839 personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the Interior Court in and for said State and County Ruth Liddell a resident of said County aged Seventy seven years, who being first duly sworn according to the law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7 1838, entitled "an act granting half pay and pensions to certain Widows";  That she is the widow of William Liddell late of Gwinnett County, Ga deceased who was a revolutionary soldier and drew a pension from the  United States government under an act passed by Congress on the 7th day of June eighteen hundred and thirty two as will be seen by reference to the records of the War Department.  She further declares that she was married to the said William Liddell on the third day of February in the year seventeen hundred and eighty four, that her husband the aforesaid William Liddell died on the twenty third day of August in the year eighteen hundred thirty six that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but  the marriage took place previous to the first of January seventeen hundred and ninety four, viz. at the time above stated.
Sworn and subscribed on this day]
and year above written before me]
John Mills JJC}
X(her mark) Ruth Liddell
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Georgia]
Gwinnett County}

I John Mills one of the Justices of the Interior Court for said County and State do hereby certify that Ruth Liddell the witness names applicant for  a pension cannot from bodily infirmity (being also totally blind) appear before the Court.  Given under my hand this 9th day of April 1839.

John Mills JJC

Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
Personally came before me John Mills and acting Justice of the Interior Court in and for said County Daniel Liddle and Isabella Liddell who after being duly sworn depose and that the within names William Liddill deceased died on the 23rd day of August eighteen hundred and thirty six; and further declare that Ruth Liddell the within named applicant for a pension is the widow of said William LIddell and that she has never married since his death.

Dave Liddell
Isabella Liddell

Sworn to and subscribed this 9th day of April 1838 before me
John Mills JJC


Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
Personally came before me John Mills and acting Justice of the Interior Court in and fore said County Daniel Liddell who after being duly sworn deposeth and saith that a copy of the original record of the marriage of William Liddell and Ruth Keith hereto annexed by and with a seal has been in my paperform [the original having benefit into              of another        
          ] since the death of William Liddell, that it is genuine and that it is written by William Liddell (above named deceased.

                 before signed            Dave LIddell

Sworn to and subscribed this 9th day of April 1838 before me

John Mills JJC
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Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
Personally came before me John Mills an acting Justice of the Interior Court in and for said County and State Elizabeth Haney who after being duly sworn deposeth and saith that she was one of the attendants at the marriage of William Liddell and Ruth Keith.  That said marriage was solumized by the Rev. John Harris a Presbyterian Preacher at his own House in Abbeville District S.C., in the month of February Seventeen hundred and eighty four and that Ruth Liddell the within named applicant for a pension is the same person above named.

X (her mark) Elizabeth Haney

Sworn to and subscribed this 9th day of April 1839 before me}  
John Mills JJC

Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
I John Mills an acting Justice of the Interior Court in and for said County and State to hereby certify that Elizabeth Haney whose name appears to the foregoing affidavit is a credible person and that full faith ought to be given to her declaration, Given under my hand this 10th day of April 1829,  John Mills JJC

Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
I Williamis Maltbie Clerk of the Interior Court in and for said County hereby certify that John Mills whose name appears to foregoing Declaration, affidavits, and certifying as a subscribing witness is an acting Justice of the Interior Court for said County and State and that full faith and credit ought to be had and given to his attestation as such as that the same in due form.  Given under my hand ...... of office this 10th day of April 1839.
Wm. Maltbie CJC
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Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
Superior Court
December Seven, 1832

Personally appeared in open court William Liddell (??? being a court of record ???sitting/ aged Seventy years - a resident of the County of Gwinnett and state aforesaid - who having first duly sworn - according to law - doth on his oath make the following declaration - in and to avail himself of the benefits of the Act of Congress passed - 7th June 1832.

That he entered the Service of the United States under the following named officers and served at herein stated in the year 1776 under Captain William Basking - Lieutenant James Basking - in what was the Ninety Six District  - in the State of South Carolina - that he was in service in the fort at Bull ???? - in said district about our ????? of war of our ????? at the ????? ?????.  That ???? time in the year 1778 as he be living - he volunteered under Captain James McCall - See the ????? officers and none collected .  Were ordered on an expedition to St. Augustine in Florida - attached to Major Pickens' Brigade a division of Gen'l Mills and ???? ????? - that they went as far as the St. Mary's River in Florida - after crossing said river General Howe took the course and - and by his order was discharged and returned home - that said term of service continued three months or more.  That service was in the year 1779 he again volunteered under Capt. Andrew Miller - see his direct officers real so collected and went on an expedition commanded by Gen'l Williamson - again at the  ????? in diary - in the Cherokee Nation - to Big Seminole Town in the Hywasee River  ???? to ???????to Eastern ???? - ????? to a Town called
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Pine Log in the High Lower River - and soon after returned home having never been in any battle.  That he believes he was engaged in said last Term of Service two months or more - That in the year 1780 he again volunteered - under Capt. William Basking attached to Col. Pickens' Division and  marched to the State of Georgia to a station opposite Beech Island - was stationed at said place - until news arrived of the surrender of close of action - that he then went with the army to Congaree to a place called Friday's Ferry in said river after sying at said Ferry a few days - we returned home ??? but was not discharged until sometime ????????????????????after returning home was ordered out to a place called Cowhead - where Col. Pickens surrendered his command and took British ????? for himself and his Division - ????? he was engaged in said service about five months - That he again volunteered in said year of 1780 - under Capt. James McCall - and marched through the Indian lands to South Carolina and joined Col. McDowell's Division of North Carolina Militia - remained under his considerable time  - then joined Col. Elijah Clarke - who commanded a division of the Georgia Militia - and who had also come with his division into North Carolina and under his command continued under him (Col. Clarke) course and  scouting about of the Tories near the line between North and South Carolina - and occasionally in - either state until about the first of August 1780 - That he went then to Charlotte in Mecklenburgh County North Carolina - still under the command of Col. Clarke - intending to join General Gates - on reaching Charlotte was informed of the defeat of General Gates near Command then joined Major Davy's local company
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and went under his command into South Carolina and reconnetured in the neighborhood of the battle ground where Gates was defeated - returned to Charlotte - From Charlotte he went under the command of Col. Clarke and Capt. McCall aforesaid on the territories of the Dtate of South Carolina and at length arrived at home in Ninety Six District South Carolina aforesaid sometime in September  - That he  ???and went 
under the officers aforesaid -  ???? Col Clarke and Capt. McCall - to South Carolina to a settlement called Mule-chuckly Hound of ??????? defeat at King's Mountain - went to Burns County in said State (NC). after scouting about some lines in Burns County aforesaid he returned to South Carolina and took leave at a fort from the Tories ???? where are the waters of Broad River  - name of the fork and recollected - after scouting for some time in the neighborhood - we fell in with a company of Tories on Lauren's Fork of Broad River and had a severe skirmish - at which a few men were lost on each side and our officers taken prisoner by our party that he left his party about the first of December - then he was engaged in said last reconnitered service about five months or more.
He then volunteered sometime about the first of August 1780. under Capt. Moses Liddell of Col. Pickens regiment on Division to march against the British at Etawa Springs  - Informant was chosed a spy to watch this movement and of the hostile Indians on the ??? of South Carolina - He was employed in service about one month.
That he volunteered again in 1780 under
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Capt. Baskins aforesaid - attached to (then) Gen'l Pickens' Division of the State Militia and proceeded under Gen'l Pickens to Benson Dam Creek in the State of Georgia where he met with Col. Clark - and in company with his ???? and his Division - marched into the Cherokee Nation - to a Town called Long Swamp which we destroyed with fire - from thence to Pine Log - from thence to Coosawatty - which we also destroyed - from thence to Eastan allis - which we found had been already destroyed by Col. Savage - from thence he returned home and was discharged finally.  That he never took any written discharges from his officers - but was dicharged at the end of the Tours of Service by his officers  verbally.  That he has a record of his birth - He reocord of no evidence that he can obtain to prove his services - after the close of the war he lived sometime in what is now called Abbeville Dist. in the State of South Carolina from thence he moved to Pendleton District in said State and resided there until 1830 - when he removed to Gwinnett County and State of Georgia where he now resides.  He hereby relinquishes eveery claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension role of the agency of any State.
Sworn and subscribed
in open Court this day and
year aforesaid.
William Liddell
(attest) Wm. Maltbie, Clk.
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Georgia}
Gwinnett county}

Mr. John  Wilson a clergyman residing in the State and County aforesaid and Thomas Weems resident at above ????? certify that they are well acquainted with William Liddell who has subscribed and sworn to his above declaration that we believe him to be seventy-four years of age - that he is reputed and believed to in the neighborhood above  - he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concern is that his ????.
This day and year aforesaid    Thos Weems
???? Hon. Maltbie Clk:

Georgia}
Gwinnett County}  ???? Court December Seven 1832.
And that said court believing declare this opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting this investigation prescribed by the War Department - that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier - and served in the States and the Court further certifies that it appeared to said Court that John J Wilson who has signed the above certificate is a clergyman resident in the State and County aforesaid and that Thomas Weems who has signed the same is a resident in the said State and County and is a credible person and that his statements are entitled to credit.
Given under our Count and seal of office on this 10th December 1832.

Clifford Woodrow JJC
Reuben Williams JJC
AR Smith JJC
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Georgia}
Gwinnett County}

J. William Maltbie Clerk of the Interior Court for said County to hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of William Liddell for a pension.  In testimony which I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 10th day of December 1832.
Wm. Maltbie C.J.G.

William Liddell
Revolutionary Claim

Wm. Lydell 21785
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Revolutionary War Records Section  3-525
W.3835
OM
Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions.
Washington, D.C.....................,19...

In reply to your request of ........, received........ for a statement of the military history of William Liddell a soldier of the Revolutionary War, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.

Dates of Enlistment:
1776
1778
1779
1780
1780
Aug 1, 1781
1782

Length of Service:
1 mo
3 mos
2 mos
2 mos
5 mos 
1 mo

Rank:
Private
Ind Spy

Officers under whom service was rendered:
Captain Wm Baskins
Captain Jas. McCall
Captain Andrew Miller
Captain Wm. Baskins
Captain James McCall
Captain Moses Liddell
Captain Baskins
Maj. Pickens
Maj. Pickens
Mag. Pickens

State:  SC

Battles engaged in Several skirmishes.
Residence of Soldier at enlistment, Ninety-six District, NC
Date of application for pension, Dec 10, 1832  His et al
Residence at date of application, Gwinnett Co, Ga
Age at date of application, 70 yrs.
Remarks:  He married Feb 3, 1784 in Abbgeville Dist - SC Ruth Neuth.  He died Aug 23, 1836.  She was at pen on her ap ex Apl 9, 1839 while residing in Gwinnett Co. Ga as 77 yrs.  The above noted is the only Wm. Liddell found in the Rev. War records of this Bureau.

Respectfully,
Office Note.  His Co only joined the NC and Ga militia in 1780 and 178?   Commissioner. for compaign in purposes he was still a S.C. soldier and did not go with any other militia only acted with it; so do not use those Colnls. as his regimented officers.
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Revy Widow, &c.

File No. 3835
Ruth LIddell 
Wid.
Wm. Liddell,
Pvt. Rev War
Act: Mch, 5/?3
Index:  Vol. A, Page 435
{Arrangement of 1870}

1920, May 19 His to Mrs. B. Butts Jr., Thomaston, Ga Eu
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Georgia 3620
Ruth Liddell
widow of William Liddell, dec. who was a pensioner under the Act of June 1832, and who died on the 23 August 1836, of Gwinnett Co. in the State of Georgia who was a private in the Co commanded by Captain of the regt commanded by Col. Pickens in the S. Carolina for 15 months.

Inscribed on the Roll of Georgia at the rate of 50 Dollars ____ Cents per annum, to commence on the 23d day of Aug 1836.

Certificate of Pension informed the 26th day of July 1839 issued to Wm. Maltbie
Lawrenceville, Georgia

Arrears to the 4th of Mar 1839 $126.66
Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Spt '39  25.00
$151.66
{Act July 7, 1838}

Recorded by D.McCurdy, Clerk.
Book A. Vol. 2. Page 198

Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 6 amt 
1838 from 4 March to 4 Sept
1840 age notified 25 Sep 1841

See letter to W. Maltbie, Sept 17, 1843.
See letter to W. Maltbie, Aug 13, 1843.
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Georgia, 3620

Ruth Liddell
widow of William Liddell
who was a pensioner under the Act of 1832
and who died on the 23d August, 1836
of Gwinnett Co in the State of Georgia
who was a private in the
commanded by Captain of the
Regt. commanded by Col. Pickens in 
the S. Carolina line for 15 months

Inscribed on the Roll of Georgia
at the rate of 50 Dollars
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of 
March, 1836.   Starting Augt 1830

Certificate of Pension issued the 28th:  day of August, 1843 and sent to Wm. Maltbie
Lawrenceville, Georgia

Whole amount due $23.62
[Act July 7, 1838.]
Recorded by ??? Stewart - Clerk,
Book A Vol. 2 Page 198

Reply ?? Augt. '43
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Lawrenceville Ga Sept. 21st 1843
Sir
Please direct any communication for Mrs. R. Liddell to my care.
Foundly Yours,
Wm. Maltbie

J.L. Edward Esq.
Com. Pensions
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J.L. Edwards Esq
Commisioner of Pensions
Washington City, D.C.

Ruth Liddell
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Lawrencevillel Geo. April 10th 1843.
Dear Sir
I have made two or three fruitless attempts to draw from the United States Agent in Savannah the balance of Mrs. Ruth Liddells five year pension - The Agent in Savannah informs me that instructions have been received from the Pension Department at Washington not to pay any pension under the Act of 7 July 1838 after the 4th March 1841.  I cannot see any good reason why such an order should have been issued .  Surely it is not the intention of the Department to deprive an ancient sightless and bedrid widow (foresuch I have often seen her) of a part of her scanty pittance.  Mrs. Liddells Pension Certificate is now in Savannah subject to my order and should the Secretary of War determine to fulfil its provisions which promises her five years pension commencing on the 23rd August 1836 and terminating on the 23rd August 1841 I will send for it and forward it to the Department if it is so desired.  Now Mrs. Liddell receives to 4th Sept 1839 $151:00 from that date to 4th March 1840 Twenty five dollars From 4th March to 4th Sept 1840 Twenty five dollars and from 4th Sept 1840 to 4th March 1841 Twenty five dollars making in all $226:00 consequently the Department is now indebted to her $24:00 .  I cannot conceive how any blame can possibly attach to Mrs. Lo in the management of this transaction, I therefore trust that you will direct payment of her demand to be made either at Savannah or Washington City as soon as it may suit your convenience.
Very Respectfully
Your Ab Ser
Wm. Maltbie

J L Edwards Esq
Com. of Pensions
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Treasury Department
General Comptroller's Office,
Aug. 18 1841.

Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Ruth Liddell a Pensioner on the Roll of the Georgia Agency, at the rate of fifty Dollars per annum, under the law of the 7th July 1838 has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of March to the 4th Sept. 1840.
Respectfully yours,
Rheion K. Partis
Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.
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Payment to be made 
at Savannah 
by S. Marshall, 
Agent for paying Pensioners,
in the Agency of 
Georgia.
Payment to be made on the 4th 
March and 4th September
in each year.

Recorded in the Pension 
Office, in Book.4. Vol.2.
Page 148, by
L.McCurdy
Clerk.



Ruth Liddell
Pension Certificate
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War Department.
Five years' Pension.

I certify that in conformity with the act of July 7, 1838, Ruth Liddell of Georgia widow of William Liddell, deceased, who was a private pensioner,  Feb 7 ??? 1832, and died on the 23rd day of August 1836, is entitled to receive a pension, at the rate of Fifty dollars per annum, aommencing on the twenty third day of Augt 1836;  and in case of the death or marriage of said widow before the 4th of March, 1841, the pension will cease on the day of such marriage or death.

Given at the War Office of the United State, this twenty sixth day of August, one thousand eight hundred and thirty nine.

L. Caopes
Acting Secretary of War.

Examined and countersigned.}
J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
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Declaration
In order to obtain arrears of Pensions due from March 4, 1836, under the act of July 7, 1838.

On this 14th day of June 1843, personally appeared before the Subscriber in Justice of the Peace, Ruth Liddell a resident of the County of Gwinnett aged Eighty one years, who being duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath, make the following declaration , in order to obtain the amount of pension which she claims from the 4th of March, 1836, to the twenty third day of August 1836, from which period she has been already paid under the act of the 7th July, 1838.  And the declarant further alleges that she is still the widow of William Liddell dec who was a private during the revolutionary war;  that her pension was allowed at the rate of Fifty dollars per annum, and was paid to her at the Agency in Savannah in the State of Georgia.  And further she saith not.

Sworn to and subscribed, on the day and year above written, before me this 14th June 1843.
John Clover, Jr.         Ruth LIddell {X her mark}

N.B. - In case the widow should have died since receiving the pension, her children must make application for the arrears, and prove before a Court of record that they are her children.  The administrator of the deceased widow may, if the children are willing, receive the money  The papers must be properly authenticated.
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Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
I David W Spence Clerk of the Superior Court of Gwinnett County certify that John Clower is a Magistrate as above, and that the foregoing signature, purporting to be his is genuine.  In testimony where of, I have hereunto affixed the seal of said Court, and subscribed my name this 20th day of July 1843.

David N. Spence, Clk
S.C.

Ruth Liddell
Ga
Act 7 July 38
50$ from March 36 to 23.
Aug. 36.


Wm. Maltbie, Esq.
Lawrenceville
Georgia
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Lawrenceville Ga July 6th 1843

Dear Sir

The Pension Certificate of Mrs. Liddell had been sent to Savannah and the delay occasions in getting it from thence, will account for the withholding of her Declaration until this opportunity.  Will my L draw the balance of her pension by Power of Attorney from Savannah as usually.

I am assured by Yours Tr
Wm. Maltbie


J.L. Edwards Esq.
Com. of Pension
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M 184 3
April 22. 1839.
Pension Office.
Geo. 5229
7 July 1838

J. Con
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Lawrenceville Ga April 10th 1829

Sir

Enclosed you will receive the Declaration of Ruth Liddell an applicant for a pension under the Act of Congress 7th July 1828.  The claim beyond death is just.

Very respectfully
Your Abe Ser
Wm. Maltbie

Hon:  JK Poinseth
Sey of War
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Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in aforesaid State and County - William Liddell - who being duly sworn defendant saith that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positive as to the precise length of his service - but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the period mentioned below and in the following grades towit - For our months I served as a private militia revolution soldier 1776.  For 3 months I served as a private militia volunteer soldier in 1778.  For two months I served above in 1779.  For 2 months I served as above in 1780 and also in the same year and the tour of 5 months and 1 month I served as aforesaid in 1781 - For one month I served as a private militia soldier in 1782 and for such service I claim a pension.
And this depondent for this saith that he volunteered services to do and perform each and every of the above terms of duty and that the time and manner of doing said service as to the best of his recollection set forth above and in his original declaration.  
Sworn to the subscribed}
before me this 30 day of Sept 1835}
G.W. Jones

William Liddell
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Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
I William Maltbie Clerk of the Interior Court of said County hereby certify that George W. Jones whose name appeared to the foregoing affidavit of William Liddell as a subscribing witness is and was at the time of the subscribing the same an acting Justice of the Peace for said County and has full faith and credit ought to be said and given to his attestation as such.  Given under my hand and Seal of Office this 8th day of October 1833.

Wm. Maltbie C.J.C.
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4609
Sep 26 1843 M.
Ruth Siddell
Oct 1843
Geo
$50 per an

Wm. Maltbie
Lawrenceville
Georgia

Towards ???? Commissioner of Pen.
Washington City, D.C.
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Declaration

In order to obtain the benefits of the act of Congress of the 3rd March 1843, granting pensions for one year to certain widows who have received pensions under the act of July 1838.
State of Georgia}
Gwinnett County}  On this 18th day of September 1843.  personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in and for said County Ruth Liddell a resident of Gwinnett County in the State of Georgia aged eighty one years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision, made by act of Congress passed on the 3rd March 1843 granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the revolutionary war.  Tat she is the widow of William Liddell who was a private during the revolutionary war, that her pensions was allowed at the rate of Fifty dollars per annum and was paid to her at the agency in Savannah in the State of Georgia.  And she further declares that she is still a widow.
Sworn to and subscribed before}
me this 18th day of September 1843}
Wm. Maltbie}
John Clover JP}     Ruth Liddle (X her mark)

I do hereby certify that I am now and have been for many years, personally acquainted with Ruth Liddell whose signature appears to the foregoing affidavit.  Given under my hand the day and year above written.

John Clover JP
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Georgia}
Gwinnett County}
I David W. Spence Clerk of the Superior Court of Gwinnett County certify that John Clover is a magistrate as above and that the foregoing signature, purposing to this is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office, and subscribed my name this 21st day of September 1843.

D M Spence Clk SC
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Rev. Sec
Thomaston Ga
April 28, 1920

Commissioner of Pensions.

Dear Sir -
I have been seeking information from the War. Dept. in regards to history of the Liddell family - As I am trying to trace my line, so I can become a member of the D.A.R.  Am just in receipt of a letter from there advising me to write you for information.  They ave on record the name of William LIddell who was paid a pension and
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Fought in Allisons Regiment New York (pensioner and not) militia.  Could  you give me any information in regard to this.  I would surely appreciate it.

Yours Truely,
Mrs. D.H. Butts Jr.
Thomaston.
Ga.

Send W. 3835 he resided in Ga and is the only Wm. Liddell in files and the person inquiring is also from Ga.