Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 18702, for Isaac Patchin, New York
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SERVICE
New York

Patchin, Isaac
Sally

NUMBER
W.18702

CONTENTS
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New York 20391-

Isaac Patchin of Schoharie in the State of N.Y. who was a priv in the Comp commanded by Captain Harper of the Regt commanded by Col. Buttler in the State Troops line for 2 years

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 80 Dollars " Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 5 day of Sept. 1833 and sent to Elias Holliday - Schoharie

Arrears to the 4th of Septr '33             200. 00
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Mar 34    40.00
                                                             $240.00
{Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.}

Recorded by [signed] TF Franciose Clerk
Book E Vol. 4 Page 72
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Reported Jany 18/49
Date of widow's death not on file

3060
New York Albany
Sally Patchin widow of Isaac Patchin New York who served in the Revolutionary war, as a private.

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars ~ Cents per annum, to commence on
the 4th day of March, 1848.

Certificate of Pension issued the 18 day of January 1849 and sent to Elias Holliday
Schoharie  New York 

Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 2, 1848, Page 167 Volume 4.
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14955
Isaac Patchin
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State of New York
Schoharie County   SS.

On this sixth day of October in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the court of common pleas of the County of Schoharie now sitting Isaac Patchin a resident in the Town of Jefferson in the County of Schoharie and State of New York aged Seventy [seven crossed out] years and ten months, who being first duly Sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7th 1832.

That he entered the Service under the following named officers and served as herein stated.  That in the month of October or November in the year 1776 he enlisted in the service of the revolution at Harpersfield then in the County of Albany, being the place of his residence, he joined Captain Alexander Harpers Company of rangers, he enlisted for nine months in said company, the company at that time was under the direction of Colonel Peter Vroman or that he had command of the middle fort in Schoharie their headquarters at that time;  that one Colonel Butler took the command after Vroman left the fort.  That he continued to serve in Captain Harpers Company till his nine months had expired which was in July or August in 1777.  That as soon as his time had expired he enlisted again at Cobleskill about twelve miles from the Middle fort aforesaid for nine months longer in Captain Harpers company he returned to middle fort in Schoharie which was then headquarters that he continue in said company of rangers till his term for which he enlisted was out when he was discharged at head quarters that after he was discharged as aforesaid, he still continued in the Service as a volunteer till some time in the latter part of March 1780,  when he and thirteen others were sent under command of Captain Harper, by Colonel Teely to go to Harpersfield and about that section of country, that they accordingly marched there & were all taken prisoners excepting three that were killed (that there were thirty Indians and Eight tories) and they were all
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taken to Canada excepting an old man by the name Brown whom they killed and scalped on the way.  that after they got to Niagara this deponent, Ezra Thorp, John Henry, and Freegift Patchin were taken from thence to Montreal and then to Shambilee [Chambly] and there imprisoned in Irons for something like eighteen months.  They were then sent to prison Island in the river St. Lawrence and remained there about a year and were then take to Quebec and from there to Boston the there liberated.  That John Henry one of the number died while at Shambilee.

He this deponent was born in Norwock [sic] in the County of Fairfield in the State of Connecticut the 20th of November 1761. That he has no record of his age excepting an entry he has made in his Bible copied from his Fathers Bible which is not now in his possession, nor does he know where it is, but that his own bible is at his dwelling in Jefferson aforesaid.  That he was living when called into the service at Harpersfield now in the County of Delaware in the State of New York that he has lived since the revolutionary was in Harpersfield and in Jefferson in the County of Schoharie and State of New York where he now lives.  That he entered the service as a volunteer as before stated.  As to the names of the regular officers who were with the troops where he served there were but few that he recollects.  Coln. Butler from Pennsylvania he was acquainted with, and Colonel Peter Vroman and Colonel Peter Teely that he never had any written discharge that he can recollect of that he is known to the following persons living in his neighborhood and town who he thinks can testify to his character for veracity and their belief of his services as a Soldier of the Revolution To wit the Reverend Stephen Lenn, Aaron Tyler, Seelye Stephens, Valentine Efner, Benjamin Hiccock
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He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity excepting the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.

[signed]
Isaac Patchin

NB in the 28 line of the first page the words (as a volunteer) was interlined before Sworn to 

Sworn and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court

[signed]
John Gebhard Jr. Clk.

Schoharie County SS.

John Bartholomew of the townn of Florida Montgomery County, being duly Sworn deposeth and Saith that he was Seventy five years old last April that he is acquainted with Isaac Patchin who has Subscribed and Sworn to the foregoing declarations and was well acquainted with him in the revolutionary War.  That he knows that the said Isaac Patchin enlisted in the service of the revolutionary war for Nine Months in the year 1777 in the month of July or August in Captain Harpers Company at Schoharie  that this deponent was orderly Sergeant of the Company and knows that the Said Isaac Patchin served the nine months out in said company and this deponent understood that he had served in the same company for nine months before that time, which he verily believes.

[signed]
John Bartholomew

Subscribed and sworn in open court the day & year aforesaid

[signed]
John Gebhard Jr. Clk.
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And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states.  And the court further certify that they are acquainted with Aaron Tyler whose affidavits is hereto annexed, that he is a man of truth and veracity and entitled to credit.

[signed]
William Beekman
Wm. Mann
Henry Shafer

I John Gebhard Junior, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Schoharie do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court, in the matter of the application of Isaac Patchin for a pension.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office, this sixth day of October 1832.

[signed]
John Gebhard Jr. Clk.
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State New York
Schoharie County    SS.

Ezra Thorp of Harpersfield in the County of Delaware and State of New York being duly sworn saith that he is now seventy five years of age, and is well acquainted with Isaac Patchin of Jefferson in the County of Schoharie, and on the 7th day April 1780 the said Isaac Patchin with this deponant [sic] having been sent on a scouting party under the command of Captain Alexander Harper an officer in the Militia service in Colonel Zuley [Ziele] Regiment west of the fort in Schoharie fell in with a party of Indians that over powered the party that this deponant and Isaac Patchin belonged to and took them prisoners in the now Town of Harpersfield and County of Delaware and carried the said Isaac Patchin with this deponant to Niagara then to Montreal from there to Shamble [Chambly] where Isaac Patchin and this deponant was imprisoned in a dungeon more than one and a half years, then sent to prison Island and remained their prisoners to the close of the Revolutionary war, was then carried to Quebeck [sic] from their by water to Boston and discharged from imprisonment in the month of December 1782 more than 200 miles from any friend or acquaintance without money or clothes on  And the deponant further says that I have seen a Certificate from Colonel Zuley [Ziele] of the service
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of Isaac Patchin, and of Captain Harper being ordered on that expedition and from circumstances Isaac Patchin has lost the paper.  And the deponant further saith not.

[signed]
Ezra Thorp

Sworn to and subscribed this 7th day of July AD 1832 before me 
[signed]
Aaron Tyler Justice of the peace

State of New York
Schoharie County   SS.

I John Gebhard Junior, Clerk of the court of Common Pleas of the County of Schoharie do certify that Aaron Tyler, before whom the above affidavit purports to have been taken, was a Justice of the peace of said County on the 7th day of July 1832;  And that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe the name Aaron Tyler to be his writing.

In testimony whereof , I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office, this 13th day of October 1832

[signed]
John Gebhard Jr. Clerk
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State of New York
Schoharie County  SS.

Aaron Tyler one of the Justices of the peace of the Town of Jefferson in said County being duly sworn before the undersigned commissioner, says that he is personally acquainted with Ezra Thorp of Harpersfield in the County of Delaware and State of New York and knows him to be the same person who made an affidavit before him of the services of Isaac Patchin in the revolutionary war and having been acquainted with the said Thorp for more than twenty years last past he believes said Thorp to be a man of truth and unimpeachable veracity and every way to be believed under Oath.

[signed]
Aaron Tyler

Sworn to and Subscribed before me this 21st day of September 1832

[signed]
Eli Jones Commissioner
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State of New York
Schoharie County   SS.

I John Gebhard, Junior Clerk of the county of Schoharie, Do hereby certify that Ely Jones before whom the within affidavit purported to have been taken, was a commissioner of the county of Schoharie, and State aforesaid, and authorised to take affidavits on the day and year the said affidavit purports to have been taken.  And I further certify that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Eli Jones and believe the said Signature to be his proper hand writing.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 13th day of October 1832

[signed]
John Gebhard Jr. Clerk
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State of New York
Schoharie County   SS.

Peter Vroman of the town of Ogden in the County of Montgomery being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is sixty nine years of age and that he is well acquainted with John Bartholomew, who has subscribed his name to the affidavit written to the end of the declaration made by Isaac Patchin and to which this is annexed, and that he this deponent has been acquainted with him since the revolutionary War, that he lived in the Town of Lebanon, then in the county of Albany for a number of years where this deponent then lived and that this deponent now lived about seven miles from him and that he the said John Bartholomew has always born a good character for truth and veracity and that he has heard the affidavit of the said John Bartholomew read, and this deponent believes him to be seventy five years old last April as he has sworn in his affidavit, this deponent further saith that he verily believes his said affidavit to be true in all respects.

[signed]
Peter Vroman

Subscribed and Sworn to this 10th day of October 1839

[signed]
Wm. Mann a Judge Schoharie county court

I certify that I am personally acquainted with Peter Vroman who took and subscribed the above affidavit before me, and that he is a man of truth and veracity and entitled to credit.

[signed]
Wm. Mann a Judge Schoharie County court
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State of New York
Schoharie County} S.

Joseph S. Johnson of the town and County of Schoharie being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is well acquainted with Isaac Patchin who has subscribed and sworn to the annexed declaration and has been acquainted with him about eighteen years and that the said Isaac Patchen since he has been acquainted with him has borne a good character for truth and veracity and that this deponent believes him to be seventy years and ten months old as he has stated in his declaration and that he has often heard that Isaac Patchin was a soldier of the revolution that he has heard General Patchin and Isaac Patchin talk about their revolutionary service and that this deponent verily believes that the said Isaac Patchin was a soldier of the revolution as he has stated in his duration hereto annexed.

[signed] Joseph S Johnson

Sworn and subscribed before me this 13th day of October 1832

[signed] Wm Mann a Judge Schoharie County courts

I certify that I am well acquainted with Joseph S Johnson who took and subscribed the above affidavit and that he is man of truth and veracity and entitled to credit-

[signed] Wm Mann a Judge Schoharie County Court

State of New York Schoharie County ss:
I John Gebhard Jr. Clerk of the said county Do certify that William Mann before whom the two preceding affidavits purport to have been sworn, was at the date of the same one

Isaac Patchin's Pension papers 
N.Y.
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of the Judges of the court of common pleas in and for the said count and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavits to be his proper hand writing and signature - Witness my hand and seal of office this 13th day of October 1832

[signed] John Gebhard Jr. Clerk
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No 14955
Isaac Patchin
Schoharie Co
NY

Admitted
Private 2 years


Elias Holliday
Schoharie Co
NY-
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
May 17 1833

Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: ⎬) You will, when you return your papers to this  Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your
claim.

A Statement, shewing the service of Isaac Patchin Schoharie Co N.Y.

Period when the service was rendered: 
1. Enlisted Oct [illegible] 1776
2. July or Agt [illegible] 1777 vol & [illegible]
3. March 1780 taken prisoner for
---
Duration of the claimant's service:
1. 9 months
2. 9 months
3. 1 year 6 months # days
---
Rank of the claimant.
1. Private
---
Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served:
1. Captn Harper
2. Cap Harper
3. Col Zealy [Ziele]
---
Names and Rank of the General and Field officers:
1. Col Vroman
2. Col Butler
---
Battles in which the applicant was engaged:
---
Country through which he marched:
---
Country through which he marched:
Canada, Niagara, Quebec, Boston
---
Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period:
+77 & 10 mo
Harpersfield - Albany
---
Evidence by which the declaration is supported:
Living witnesses
---
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

#Patchin was imprisoned 18 month at Shamberle [Chambly] and then sent to Prison Isle in the St. Lawrence and remained there about a year and was then taken to Quebeck & c.
+ Aged 70 years & 10 months
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.

The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia" and "volunteers, all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service but not those who
were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops.
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3. Persons employed in the Naval service.
4. Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first in stance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.

DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of_____
County of _____} ss.

On this  ____day of _______personally appeared (a) before _______A.B. a resident (b) of _______in the county of ______and State, Territory or District of ______ aged (c) ______years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _______, with _____and served in the _____(e) regiment of the _______line, under the following named officers: 

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the
town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. -->This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of
the Agency in the State o 
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.

[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.

I do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of_______for a pension.

In testimony  whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this
day of_____ &c.

If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.

Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the_______and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with________, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be
years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A.B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C.D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the________and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I, _______Clerk of the Court of_______ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of_______for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this_____
day of_____& c.

Every applicant will produce the best p oof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.

If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his 
declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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 will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore. these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6. To a Soldier. Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?
To an Officer. Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court. Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace. the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance. [b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
" Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of bis service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:
For year months, and days, I served as a ; For mouths and days, I served as a and for such service I claim a pension."
{It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with au embodied corps called into service by competent authority that lie was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. The notes from [a] to [j] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only. }credibility of witnesses required.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration. 
Tie credibility of John Bartholomew is sworn to by P. Vroman and Vromans credibility certified to by the Judge who administered the oath. And Ezra Thorpe's character for truth is supported by a subsequent affidavit of the Justice who administered the oat to Thorp & neglected at the time to certify as to his character for truth.
[side note] The state government could determine perhaps whether were called into service by competent authority or not but I should very much doubt whether a soldier could swear to without going beyond the reach of his knowledge.
]What Mr. Patchen can swear to on the subject, I do not know but presume he can swear to nothing more than the facts he had already sworn to in h is declaration. He lives 20 miles from me and is now confined by sickness as I have been informed. E. Holliday
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Sally Patchin
2419

Letter 19 March '39

2
Prisoner from
7th April 1780 to 28 November 1782
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State of New York
Schoharie County  SS.

On this 14 day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred ad thirty nine, personally appeared before the Judges of the Court of Oyer & Terminer held in and for the county of Schoharie, and State aforesaid Sally Patchin, a resident of the town of Jefferson, in said County in the Sixty Seventh year of her age, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of congress, passed July 7, 1838, entitled "An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows."  That she is the widow of Isaac Patchin, who was a private Soldier in the Revolutionary War, as she has been informed and believes, and further that he was taken prisoner, as she was also informed and believes and kept in Captivity about two years and six months. That he was a Revolutionary pensioner of the United States at the time of his death of eighty dollars per annum. She further declares that she was married to the said Isaac Patchin on the twenty fourth day of March One thousand seven hundred and eighty nine, that her husband the aforesaid Isaac Patchin, died on the 23d day of February, 1834, at the town of Jefferson in said county; that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place, pervious to the first of January seventeen hundred and ninety four, viz: atr the time above stated, at Harpersfield, in the county of Delaware & State aforesaid. N.B. the word "county" in this line was used before executed.

[signed] Sally Patchin

Sworn and Subscribed on the day and year above written in open court before me }

[signed] William M. Holton Clrk of Schoharie County
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State of New York
Schoharie County,} ss.

Lewis J. Patchin, being duly sworn, saith that
Isaac Patchin, within named, did on the 23d day of February, 1834 and that Sally Patchin
within named is the widow of the said Isaac
Patchin, deceased, that she has not been married to any one since his death but has remained and still is the widow of the said Isaac Patcher deceased.

N.B. The words "Isaac Patchin being duly sworn saith," in the first & second line from the top were erased and the figures "1839" in the 5th line were erased before sworn to}
[signed] Lewis J Patchin
-
Subscribed and sworn to in open Court this 14th day of May 1839 before me }
[signed] William Holton
Clerk of Schoharie County}

I certify that the above named Lewis J. Patchin is a person of veracity
[singed] William M. Hollow
Clerk of Schoharie County }
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State of New York
Schoharie County, ⎬ ss

Cyrenus Gibbs in the 71st year of his age, who being duly sworn, saith, that he is a brother of Sally Patchin, widow of Isaac Patchin, deceased, that she was married to the said Isaac Patchin, on the 24th day of March 1789, at the house of this deponent's farther, and that he this deponent was present of the marriage. That the said Isaac Patchin died in the winter of 1834. that the said Sally Patchin has not
since been married to any one, but remains the
widow of the said Isaac Patchin, deceased. That
he the said Isaac Patchin was a pensioner of the United States at the time of his death. N.B. the words "month of February" in the 6th line above were erased before Sworn to
Subscribed and Sworn this 3d day of October 1838 before me
[signed] Cyrenus Gibbs
[signed] David Miles Justice of the Peace

I certify that the above named Cyrenus Gibbs
is a man of truth.
[signed] David Miles Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
Schoharie County, ⎬ ss

Molly Patchin in the 78th year of her age, being duly sworn, saith she is well acquainted with Sally Patchin widow of Isaac Patchin deceased, that the said Sally was married to the said Isaac Patchen in the year seventeen hundred and eighty nine, that this deponent was present at the marriage of the said Sally, to the said Isaac
Patchin, and that the said Isaac Patchin died in the winter of 1834, and that the said Sally Patchin has not been married since to anyone but is still the widow of the said Isaac Patchin deceased and that the said Isaac was a pensioner at the time of his death as this deponent understood and believes

Subscribed and Sworn this 5th day of October
1838 before me }
[signed] Molly Patchin her X mark

N.B. The word fourth was erased and the figure "5th" [illegible]
[signed] Stephen Badgley Justice of the Peace

I certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Molly Patchen and that she is a person of truth
[signed] Stephen Badgley
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State of New York
Schoharie County,} ss.

I, William Holton clerk of said County do hereby certify that Stephen Badgley before
whom the within affidavit purports to have been taken was on the day the taking hears date a justice of the peace of said county and further that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe the signature to the
taking said affidavit to be genuine and the signature to the certificate there under written
I also verily believe to be genuine.

And I further certify that David Miles before whom the annexed affidavit of Cyranus Gibbs purports to have been taken was on the day the taking bears date a Justice of the peace of said County and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe the signature to the taking said affidavit and certificate there under written to be genuine. Given under my hand and seal of office this 9th day of October 1838.

[signed] William M. Holton Clerk of the County of Schoharie
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State of New York
Schoharie County  SS:

Seth Williston being duly Sworn deposeth & saith that he is the present Pastor of the Presbyterian Church of the Town of Harpersfield in the County of Delaware of which church the Rev. John Lindsley was formerly pastor as this deponent has been informed and believes.  And this deponent further saith that he has made inquiry and cannot find any church records of marriages whatever and he believes that there is no record of the marriage of Isaac Patchin to Sally Gibbs, now the widow of the said Isaac Patchin deceased.  

[signed]
Seth Williston

Subscribed and sworn before me this 9th day of April 1839

[signed]
Aaron Tyler Justice

State of New York
Schoharie County  SS:

Statira Campbell aged seventy seven years deposeth and saith that Sally Patchin the widow of Isaac Patchin deceased is a sister of hers and that in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine in the month of March in the Town of Harpersfield now County of Delaware at her Fathers House she saw Sally Patchin then Sally Gibbs married to Isaac Patchin by the Rev. John Lindsley then of Harpersfield, but within a few years after he moved away and she has not heard from him in more than Twenty years and if he is now aliving [sic] he must be near one hundred years old.  That the said Isaac Patchin died in the Town of Jefferson more than five years ago and was a Pensioner at the time of his death and said Sally Patchin now remains his widow and further this deponent saith not.

[signed}
Statira Campbell

Subscribed and sworn this 9th day of April 1839 before me

[signed]
Aaron Tyler Justice

Certificate of veracity on the other side.
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I hereby Certify that the within named Seth Williston is a person of good moral character and veracity.

[signed]
Aaron Tyler Justice

I certify that the within named Statira Campbell is a person of good moral character and veracity.

[signed]
Aaron Tyler Justice
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State of New York
Schoharie County
Clerks office   SS:

I, William Holton Clerk of said County do hereby Certify that it appears from the Laws of the State of New York, belonging to this office, Session 49, Chapter 99, that a act was passed in the following words, viz:

"An act for the relief of Isaac Patchin."
"Passed April 1, 1826"

"Be it enacted by the People of the State of New York represented in Senate and Assembly, That the Treasurer on the warrant of the Comptroller, is authorised and required to pay to Isaac Patchin, the sum of two hundred and ten dollars, out of any money in the treasury not otherwise appropriated, in full of his pay as a soldier, serving in Colonel Peter Zeile's regiment;  the said Isaac having been taken prisoner by the enemies of the United States in the Revolutionary War, on the Seventh day of April one thousand seven hundred and eighty, and continued a prisoner in Canada, to the twenty-eighth day of November, one thousand seven hundred and eighty two, for which he has heretofore received no compensation from this State or the United States."

And I further certify that the declaration of Sally Patchin, hereto annexed, was made and sworn to in open court being a court of record:  And I further certify that Aaron Tyler, before whom the affidavit of Seth Williston and Statira Campbell, hereto annexed, purport to have been taken, was, on the day the taking of each affidavit bears oath a Justice of the peace of said county, and further that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe the signature to the taking of each affidavit and certificates of veracity to be genuine.

Given under my hand and the seal of said County this 24th day of May, 1839.

[signed]
William M. Holton Clerk.
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June 3, 1938

Mr. Eugene Bouton
55 Warren Street
Bloomfield, New Jersey

ISAAC PATCHIN
W. 18702
BA-J/MLB

Dear Sir:

You are furnished herein the record of Isaac Patchin as found in pension claim, W. 18702, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.
.
Isaac Patchin was born November 20, 1761, in Norwalk, Fairfield County, Connecticut; the names of his parents were not given.

While residing in Harpersfield, in that part of Albany County which was later Delaware County, New York, Isaac Patchin enlisted in
October or November, 1776, served as private in Captain Alexander Harper's company of rangers, Colonels Peter Vrooman's and Butler's New York regiments, stationed at Middle Fort in Schoharie County, New York, and was discharged in July or August, 1777. He immediately enlisted at Cobleskill, about twelve miles from Middle Fort, and served another tour of nine months in Captain Alexander Harper's New York company of rangers.
He volunteered in March, 1780, served as private in Captain Alexander Harper's company, Colonel Peter Ziele's New York regiment, and while on a scouting party to Harpersfield, was taken prisoner April 7, 1780, in an engagement with thirty Indians and eight Tories, and held until November 28, 1782, or December, 1782, when he was released.

After the Revolutionary War the soldier resided in Harpersfield and in Jefferson, Schoharie County, New York.

Isaac Patchin was allowed pension on his application executed October 6, 1832, while living in Jefferson, Schoharie County, New York.
He died there February 25, 1834.

The soldier married Sally Gibbs March 24, 1789, at the home of her father in Harpersfield, Delaware County, New York. The names of her
parents were not stated.
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Sally Patchin, widow of Isaac, was allowed  pension on her application executed May 14, 1839, at which time she was aged sixty-six years and a resident of Jefferson, Schoharie County, New York, where she was still residing in 1845. 

No reference was made to children.

In 1832, reference was made to one General Patchin and to Freegift Patchin, their relationship to soldier not shown.

The following persons made affidavit in Schoharie County, New York, in behalf of soldier's widow, Sally Patchin, in her application for pension: In 1838, her brother, Cyrenus Gibbs aged seventy years; in 1839, her sister, Statira Campbell aged seventy-seven years, the given name of Statira's husband not shown; in 1838, one Molly Patchin aged seventy seven years who was present at the marriage of Isaac Patchin to Sally Gibbs; and in 1839, one Lewis I. Patchin, the relationship of the two last name not given.

In order to obtain date of last payment of pension, the name and address of the person paid and possibly the date of death of soldier's
widow, Sally Patchin, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the
following data: Sally Patchin, widow of Isaac Patchin, certificate 3060, issued January 18, 1849, rate $80 per annum, commenced March 4, 1848, Act February 2, 1848, Albany, New York Agency.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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State of New York
Schoharie County,} ss.

On this 14th day of May 1839, personally appeared before the Judges of the court of oyer and terminer held in and for the County of Schoharie, and State aforesaid, Sally Patchin a resident of the town of Jefferson in said County in the sixty seventh year of her age, who being first duly sworn according to Law, Doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed July 7, 1838, entitled "An act granting half pay and pension to certain widows:  That she is the widow of Isaac Patchin deceased, who was a private soldier of the Revolutionary War, that he was a pensioner of the United States, of eighty dollars per annum at the time of his death. 

[inserted text]
 as she has been informed and believes, and further that he was the very person she was also informed and believes and kept in captivity about 2 years and 6 months

She further declares that she was married to the said Isaac Patchin on the twenty fourth day of March one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine, that her husband, the aforesaid Isaac Patchin died on the twenty third day of February, 1834, at the town of Jefferson in said county, that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first of January, seventeen hundred and ninety four, viz: at the time above stated, at Harpersfield in the county of Delaware and State aforesaid.

Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written, in open court, before me} [signed] Sally Patchin

[signed] Jacob Houck Junr.
Surrogate of Schoharie County

Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written in open court before me} A copy of the New [illegible]

[signed] William M Holton
Clerk of Schoharie County
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State of New York
Schoharie County,} ss

Lewis J. Patchin being duly sworn saith that Isaac Patchen, within named, died on the 23d day of February,1834, and that Sally Patchin within named is the widow of the said Isaac Patchin, deceased

That she has not been married to any one since his death but has remained and she is the widow of the said Isaac Patchin deceased.
[signed] Lewis J. Patchin

Subscribed and sworn to in open court this 14th day of May 1839 before me}
[signed] William M Holton 
Clerk of Schoharie County

A Copy
State of New York
Schoharie County}ss.

Seth Williston having duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is the present pastor of the Presbyterian church of the town of Harpersfield in the County of Delaware of which church the Rev. John Lindsley was former pastor as this
deponent has been informed and believes. And this deponent further saith that he has made enquiry and cannot find any church record of marriage whatever, and he believes that there is no record of the marriage of Isaac Patchin to Sally Gibbs now the widow of the said Isaac Patchin deceased

Subscribed and sworn before me this 9th day of April 1839 
                     ⎬ [signed] Seth Williston 

[signed] Aaron Tyler Justice
(A copy)

State of New York
Schoharie County⎬ss.

Statira Campbell aged 77 years deposeth and saith that Sally Patchin the widow of Isaac Patchin deceased is a sister of her and that in the year 1789 in the month of March in the town of Harpersfield now county of Delaware at our fathers house she saw Sally Patchin then Sally Gibbs married to Isaac Patchin by the Rev. John Lindsley then of Harpersfield, but within a few part after he moved away and she has not heard from him in more than 20 years and if he is now living he must be near 100 years old 

That the said Isaac Patchin died in the town of
Jefferson more than 5 years ago and was a pensioner at the time of his death and said Sally Patchin now [illegible] his widow

[signed] Statira Campbell

Subscribed & Sworn this 9th day of April 1839
before me 
[signed] Aaron Tyler Justice
(A Copy)
Certificate of veracity in conform
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2354
Mrs Sally Patchin

She is not identified

$80 per annum

E. Holliday
Schoharie New York
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State of New York
Schoharie County ⎬ ss                [illegible]
                                    
On this 19th day of June,1843 personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the peace in and for said County Sally Patchin, a resident of the town of Jefferson, in said County in the 71st year of her age, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her Oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress, on the 3d of March, 1843, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War. That she is the widow of Isaac Patchin, who was a
private soldier in the war of the Revolution, as she has been informed and believes; and further that he was taken prisoner as she also was informed and believes and kept in Captivity about two years and six months, that he was a pensioner of the United States of Eighty dollars per annum at the time of his death. That she applied for and received a
five years pension under the act of July 7, 1838, of eighty dollars per annum, that her pension certificate was returned when she drew her last semi annual payment. She further declares that she is still a widow. 

[signed] Sally Patchin

Sworn and subscribed the day and year above written, before me
[signed] Benj Hickok Justice


State of New York
Schoharie County} ss.

I Thomas McArthur Clerk of said county do hereby certify that Benjamin Hickok before whom the above affidavit purports to have been signed was on the 19th day of June 1843, and still is a justice of the peace in & for said county and that his signature to the taking the
above affidavit is genuine. Given under my hand and seal of office this 27th day of June 1843.
[signed] Thos McArthur Clerk
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State of New York
Scholar County,} ss. 

I Benjamin Hickock, the magistrate before whom the within named Sally Patchin was sworn to the foregoing declaration, do hereby
certify, that the said Sally Patchin was at the time of the taking said affidavit, personally known to me.

And I further certify that she has drawn a pension under the act of July 7, 1838.

[signed] Benjm Hickey, Justice

State of New York
Schoharie County,⎬ ss

I Thomas McArthur do certify that the above
named Benjamin Hickok is a Justice of the peace in and for said County and is the same person before whom the foregoing affidavit was taken. And I further certify that the above signanture is genuine.
Given under my hand and see side of office this first day of November 1843

[signed] Thos McArthur Clerk
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Schoharie May 27, 1839

Sir:
I return to you the papers of Sally Patchin with a new declaration made in a court of record, together with some additional proof of her marriage, and that there is no more of it &c. You stated in your letter of the 19th of March accompanying the return of her papers that all that could be allowed, upon the proof on file for the revolutionary services of the claimant's husband was a pension of 18 months; viz: as a prisoner. You will find by adverting to Isaac Patchins declaration that after his last 9 months enlistment was out, he continued in the service as a volunteer till the latter part of March 1780, when he and others were taken prisoners &
taken to Canada. That he, Ira Thorp and Freegift Patchin were taken to Montreal and thence to Shambly [Chambly] and there imprisoned in irons for something like 18 months. They were then sent to prison Island in the river St. Lawrence and remained there about a year, and were then taken to Quebec and from there to Boston and their liberation. Now this makes about 2 years 7 months and 21 days, besides being in the service 18 months before that. John Bartholomew swears to 9 months of the service, and Ira Thorp's affidavit, which was sent sometime after Patchins declaration was sent, proves the impressment to have been over 2 years and 9 months. But to make the proof satisfactory I have procured a certified copy of an act of the Legislature of the State of New York, in relation to this matter which shows the imprisonment to have been 2 years 7 months and 21 days. This certificate together with the other evidence in the case herewith enclosed, will I hope, be considered sufficient
Yours respectfully
[signed] Elias Holliday

[signed] James L Edwards Esq
Com. of Pensions
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James L. Edwards Esq
Com. of Pensions
Washington
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Schoharie N.Y. August 31, '45

Sir:

I herewith enclose to you the Declaration of Mrs. Sally Patchin.

Yours respectfully

Elias Holliday

James Edwards Esq
Com of Pensions
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State of New York
Schoharie County,] ss.

On this 28th day of August, 1848, personally appeared before me Henry P. Mattice a Justice of the peace in and for said County, Sally Patchin, a resident of the town of Jefferson in said County, in the 77th year of her age, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on her Oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed on the 2d February, 1848, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the revolutionary war. That she is the widow of Isaac Patchin who was a private, as she believes, in the Revolutionary war , but he cannot state what company and regiment he belonged to; that he was a pensioner at the time of his death of eighty dollars per annum; that she received a pension under the act of the 17th of June, 1844 of eighty dollars per annum. She further declares that she is still a widow. 

Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written
before me
[signed] Henry Mattice
Justice of the Peace } [signed] Sally Patchin

I certify that the above declarant is personally known to
me, and I further certify that the words "eighty dollars per
annum" in the 6th line above, were interlined before signing
[signed] Henry Mattice
Justice of the Peace

State of New York
Schoharie County ⎬ ss. 

I Stephen Mahan, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that Henry P. Matice, before whom the above affidavit purports to have been sworn, was at the time the same bears date, a Justice of the peace of said county, duly authorized by law to administer oaths, and verily believe the signature to the
taking of the affidavit to be genuine. Given under any hand
and Seal of Office, this 30th day of August, 1848
[signed] Stephen Mahan Clerk
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E. Holliday
8 Aug. 1839
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169

War Department
Pension Office
Aug 8. 1839

Sir
the declaration of Mrs Sally Patchin before the county court of Schoharie has been filed. The original declaration as it constitutes a part of the case must to returned to this office before any decision then can be had had

Elias Holiday Esq
Schoharie
N. Y.
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14955
Isaac Patchin
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We Stephen Fenn a Clergyman residing in the
Town of Jefferson in the County of Shoharie and Reuben Merchant residing in the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Isaac Patchin who is an applicant for a pension that we believe him to be upwards of seventy years of age that he is reputed and believed in the Neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier
of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion

[signed] Stephen Fenn
[signed] Reuben Merchant

The 3d of June 1835 Sworn and Subscribed before me
[signed] Marvin Judd one of the Judges of Schoharie County

And I further certify that I am personly acquainted with the Revd Stephen Fenn that he is a resident of the town of Jefferson and that Reuben Merchant who has also signed the same is a resident in the same town and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit and that I concur in that opinion

[signed] Marvin Judd a Judge of Schoharie County

State of New York
Schoharie County ⎬ ss. 
I, John Gebhard, Junior, Clerk of the court of Common Pleas of the County of Schoharie, do hereby certify, that Marvin Judd, before whom the above affidavits purport to have been taken, was at the time of taking the same, one of the Judges of the Court of Common pleas of
the County of Schoharie. And I further certify that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe the signature, Marvin Judd, to the taking of the affidavits and to the above certificate, to be genuine. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this sixth day of June 1835
[signed] John Gebhard Jr. Clerk
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Schoharie June 11th, 1833

Sir:

I have enclosed with Isaac Patchin's papers, a clergyman's Certificate &c. If there is something yet wanting, which must be supplied, I should be glad, on his account, to have the papers returned as soon as
possible, as he is quite aged and bending very fast with sickness.

There is a note in the margin of your letter "credibility of witnesses required". Tyler, the Justice, who took the affidavit of Thorp did not know that it was necessary to certify to his credibility, but afterwards made affidavit of his credibility-- 

The other witness, Bartholomew, was Sworn in open court by the clerk, who was unacquainted with the witness and could not certify. Peter Vroman was therefore Sworn to prove the credibility of Bartholomew, and the Judge certified to the credibility of Vroman. These affidavits were all annexed to the papers, but probably were unobserved at the time they were examined.

Bartholomew swears that Patchin enlisted and served 9 month in 1777, and that he understood he had served 9 month before in the same company which he verily believes.

Thorp Swears Patchin was taken prisoner in the year 1780, in April, while in the service, and that he was imprisoned 18 month at Shamberlee [Chambly], that he was then sent
to Prison Island and remained a prisoner till the close of the War. making about 2 years & six month imprisonment.

Very respectfully your Obedient Servt
[signed] Elias Holliday

J.L. Edwards Esq
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2674
New York Albany
Sally Patchin widow of Isaac Patchin who was a Private in the Revolution for 2 years

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars -- 
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.

Certificate of Pension issued the 9th day of Nov. 1843 and sent to E. Holliday Schoharie N.Y

[Act of March 3, 1843.]
Recorded in Book A Vol 1 Page 111
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Albany 3918

Sally Patchin widow of Isaac Patchin who was a pensioner under the Act of June 7, 1832 and who died on the 23d February 1834 of Schoharie Co. in the State of N. York who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain Harper of the regt. commanded
by Col. Butler in the line for 2 years

Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 80 Dollars - Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.

Certificate of Pension issued the 20th day of August 1839 and sent to E. Holliday Schoharie N.Y. 

Arrears to the 4th of March 1839 240.00
Semiannual allowance ending Sep. 1839 40.00
240.00
40.00
$280.00
{Act July 7, 1838.}

Recorded by D. Brown Clerk
Book A. Vol. 2. Page 97
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3918
Com. Aug 19

[stamped] SCHOHARIE CH NY AUG 16  FREE

James L. Edwards Esq
Com. of Pensions
Washington
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Schoharie, August 16,1839

Sir:
In your letter of the 8th instant, you say the original [dec] declaration of Sally Patchin, must be returned before any decision thereof can be made! Now, according to this decision of the original declaration were lost her claim would be rejected without any regard to the evidence and merits of the case!!

This declaration was considered void by the department because it was made in the Surrogate's Court, and she was required to make her declaration in a court of record, which she did and I sent it to you with the other papers containing the proof & C. The one returned I did not consider of any further use as it had been rejected and therefore by a little erasure and interlineation made, it answered for a copy of the last declaration, which had these additional words which were omitted in the first through mistake viz: "as she has been informed and verily believes and further that he was taken prisoner as she was also informed and believes, and kept in captivity about two
years & six months."-- You can see how it was in its original State by leaving out the interlineation &c. Some of the affidavits in the case was copied on the back since it was returned.

Now, I aver that this rejected declaration is no part of the case anymore than the draft is, and you might with the same propriety send for the draft and declare that a decision could not be made till it was sent on.

From past occurrences I am fully satisfied that I cannot present a case, be it ever so clear, but that will meet with objections. This case of Sally Patchin is a perfectly clear one if I take a correct view of it and the objection now raised is clearly a frivolous one, and the first objection, viz: that the declaration should be made in a court of record was an arbitrary one, for I would ask, is there greater solemnity, force or effect in an affidavit
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sworn to before the clerk of the county court than then would be if it were Sworn before the Surrogate in his court? If either carries solemnity with it, it is the latter. 

Under the act of 1832, declarations were required to be made in a court of record, and a number of interrogatories were required to be put by the Court, and answered by the applicant, and a certificate of the opinion of the court in the matter was also required to be signed by the court and certified by the Clerk, and all this was consistent and proper for obvious reasons, but not so in the case of the application of widows, for there and interrogatories to be put nor any thing prescribed for the court to do. The widow is merely required to make her declaration in Court of record, unless prevented by bodily infirmity, she accordingly goes into Court, the Clerk swears her to the truth of her declaration and she departs.-- 

And again ask what greater Soleminty [sic] is there in this, than these would be if the declaration were sworn to in the Surrogates court? For if she would be guilty of perjury in the one case she would be equally guilty [in] in the other; and it is no answer to say that the declaration must be sworn before the Clerk in a court of record because the rules require it, any more than it would to say that an official affidavit directed to be sworn before a Justice of the peace should be rejected because it was Sworn before a Judge. 

Now if the rules are not only inconvenient but inconsistent they ought to be modified agreeably to reason and Justice . I had more than a year ago, several cases in which
the declarations were made in the Surrogate's Court and no objections raised on that ground, but since
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then I have had 8 or 10 cases conducted in the surrogate's court and after lying at the pension office 4 or 5 month have all been sent back with the objection that the declarations
were required to be made in a court of record. These widows lived about 20 to 30 miles from when our courts are held and after waiting till the court sat they all, who were able, had to attend the court in order to make a new declaration, this worked a great inconvenience besides extra expense and much delay.

These new declarations and the proof were all forwarded to the Department, and after laying there for two or months longer, this last objection is passed, which certainly appears not to be made in good faith, but for the purpose of delay or avoiding Justice; but her rights are not to be put down in this way, if she cannot have Justice done by the Pension Department I know where she can and will have Justice done her.

I am respectfully your obedient servt
[signed] Elias Holliday

James L. Edwards Esq
Com of Pensions
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300

Pension Office
October 21, 1843

Sir,

I return you the declarations of Sally Patchen, Molly Patchen and Elizabethe Bartholamew, that they may be executed conformably to the enclosed printed instructions.

E. Holliday
Schoharie
New-York
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N. York 2419
Sally Patchin - send the
$80 per ann


Act July 1838
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2419

Sally Patchen

Number 2419

Sent last narrative March 27, 1839

Letters to S. Patchen
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I the said Surrogate, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court, in the matter of the application of Sally Patchin, widow of Isaac Patchin, deceased, for a pension 

Given under my hand and seal of the Surrogate's court of the County of Schoharie this 9th day of October 1838.

[signed] Jacob Houck Junr
Surrogate of Schoharie County
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1935, Ma. 18 - Hist to Mrs. Harry Shafer - MLB
1938, June 3 Hist to Eugene Bouton
Received letter in miscellaneous Files - MLB

Revolutionary WIDOW, Etc. 
File Number 18.702
Sally Patchin Widow of Isaac Patchin Private Revolutionary War

Act: February 2nd 1[18]48
Index:-Volume M, Page 113

[Arrangement of 1870]
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Mrs. Harry Shafer, Registrar,
IROQUOIS CHAPTER
DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
WORCESTER, NEW YORK

[Stamped]
RECEIVED
MAR 12 1935

Veterans Administration
Washington, D. C.

Gentlemen:--

Does your Department give any information about Isaac Patchin 1764 - 1834? 

He is buried in Blenheim, Scho. Co., N. Y. but was taken prisoner by the Tories and Indians in Harpersfield, Del. Co., N.Y. in 1780 when he was
but sixteen years old.

We wish to get all data you have in regard to his wife, whose name I think was Sally, his parents and his eight children. We only have the name of one son and that was David Patchin who married Hannah Adams.

We thank thank you for any information you may be able to give.

Very sincerely,
Mrs. Harry Shafer, 
Registrar,
Local Historian.

[signed] Mrs. Harry Shafer

3/9/35
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March 18, 1935
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ISAAC PATCHIN
W. 18702
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Mrs. Harry Shafer
Worcester, New York

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Isaac Patchin (1764-1834) who had a wife named Sally, and who was buried in Blenheim, Schoharie County, New York.

You are furnished herein the record of the only soldier named Isaac Patchin, under any spelling, found in the Revolutionary War records, who served or was pensioned from New York. The data therein were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, W. 18702, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.

Isaac Patchin was born November 20, 1761, in Norwalk, Fairfield County, Connecticut; the names of his parents are not given.

While residing in Harpersfield, in that part of Albany County which was later Delaware County, New York, he enlisted in October or November 1776, served as private in Captain Alexander Harper's company of rangers, Colonels Peter Vrooman's and Butler's New York regiments, stationed at Middle Fort in Schoharie County, New York, and was discharged in July or August, 1777. He immediately enlisted at Cobleskill, about twelve miles from Middle Fort, and served another tour of nine months in Captain Alexander Harper's New York company of rangers. Upon expiration of that tour, he volunteered in Match, 1780, served as private in Captain Alexander Harper's company, Colonel Peter Ziele's New York regiment, and while on a scouting party to Harpersfield, was taken prisoner April 7, 1780, in an engagement with thirty Indians and eight Tories, and held until November 28, 1782, or December, 1782, when he was released.

After the Revolutionary War the soldier lived in Harpersfield and in Jefferson, Schoharie County, New York.

Omit next time as you have date he volunteered and there was too long a space since end of former service.
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Isaac Patchin was allowed pension on his application executed October 6, 1832, while a resident of Jefferson, Schoharie County, New York.

He died February 23, 1834, in Jefferson, New York. 

Isaac Patchin married Sally Gibbs, March 24, 1789, at the home of her father, in Harpersfield, Delaware County, New York; the names of her parents were not stated.

Soldier's widow, Sally Patchin, was allowed pension on her application executed May 14, 1839, at which time she was aged sixty-six years and a resident of Jefferson, Schoharie County, New York, where she was still residing in 1843.

No reference was made to children.

In 1832, reference was made to one General Patchin and to Freegift Patchin, their relationship to soldier not shown.

The following persons made affidavit in Schoharie County, New York, in behalf of soldier's widow, Sally Patchin, in her application for pension; in 1838, Cyrenus Gibbs, aged seventy years, her brother; in 1839, her sister, Statira Campbell, aged seventy-seven years, the given name of her husband not stated; in 1838, one Molly Patchin, aged seventy-seven years, who was present at the marriage of Isaac Patchin to Sally Gibbs; and in 1839, one Lewis I. Patchin, the relationship of the two last name not given.

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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[Printed] Isaac Patchin W.18702

Mr. Eugene Bouton
53 Warren Street
Bloomfield, New Jersey

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the records of a large number of Revolutionary War soldiers.

As stated in letter to you February 18, 1937, it is impossible to comply with requests which require the amount of time and research which would be involved in yours. The clerical force engaged in this research has not been increased since that letter was written.

As means of aiding you in some degree in your efforts, the Revolutionary War records have been searched and no claims for pension found based upon service in that war of an Abraham Jones of New York State, nor of a Henry of John Efner, Epner or similar spelling, nor a claim for
pension made by a Rachel Efner or Epner, etc., who applied for pension as the widow of a Revolutionary War soldier with that surname. The pension referred to in 1840 may have been paid by the state from which the service was rendered.

The records of Isaac Patchin ( widow Sally), David Garnsey and Frederick Smith are furnished you herewith. No other David Garnsey of New York State was found in the search.

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator

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