Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4338, John Grinstead, Va.
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Va.  Grinstead, John        R 4338
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John Grinstead, [illegible]
Declaration for Act of June 7, 1832 Kentucky Original Claim

D.D. Addison
[illegible]
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State of Kentucky
Washington County

On this fifteenth day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and fifty two personally appeared in open court before the court of Washington County and State of Kentucky now sitting Lewis Grinstead a resident of and in the County of Washington and state aforesaid and is now in the fiftythird year of his age and [illegible] being duly Sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed the 7th day of June 1832 granting pensions to officers and soldiers that Served in the war of the Revolution And that he makes this declaration in the name and right of and for his Services as of his father John Grinstead deceased and for his services as a Soldier in the war of the revolution. And for the benefit of his Several surviving children. He States he is the youngest child of his deceased Father John Grinstead who was a Soldier in the war of the revolution and Served as was always stated by himself in his lifetime a term or terms of service of more than two years. He states he makes this declaration from the best of his memory and from the very many and frequent conversations his Father and himself have had on the subject of his Services when a Soldier in the revolutionary war a Subject the old Gentleman [illegible] to converse on. And which I now State to the best of my recollection- My Father resided in early life and when he entered the service of his country in the State of Virginia and in Prince William County. He Stated he entered the Service in the war of the revolution as a private Soldier, in Infantry Company which was called the Virginia Continental line he stated he served in that Company and line one year and eight or nine months the precise time I am not quite certain but am certain he Said one year and Six months or more. I cannot now recollect the names of the officers who commanded the Regiment or Company but that he Served in the Virginia Continental troops or line and in an Infantry Company he also
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States that for the One year and Six months Service my Stated he got an Honorable discharge and Said he lost his discharge and now think he said before he came to Kentucky from Virginia the discharge he got for that term of Service. I also State my Father Said he was in two other terms of Service of Six or nine month tours but cannot now recollect whether it was before or after the one before mentioned nor can I recollect enough of these merits to give data to his Services in them I can only Say I am as fully convinced that he Served the two additional tours of Service as that he Served the one more fully here mentioned for he always Stated he served his country in the war of the revolution full two years  and Seven months in actual Service and that through Cold  Hunger and almost Nakedness most of the time without shoes and bleeding feet half starved and on hard marches all in defence of our Country and to obtain our Independance. And was paid in Continental Money which was of no Value. He Also States his Father John Grinstead removed from Virginia and came to Kentucky in the year  1796 and settled in Bourbon County where he lived about thirty years. He then removed a Short distance to and in the County of Montgomery where he lived until the day of his death. He died on the 7th day of February in the year 1851 at the advanced age of 99 years as appears by his Bible record. He further states that soon after the passage of the act of Congress granting pensions to the old revolutionary Soldiers My Father John Grinstead began to urge his claim and hunt for living evidence of his Services but was unable to obtain any such proof which he considered [illegible] the act necessary under the law granting pensions. In the Summer of the year 1834 a Gentleman Mr Cox Deputy Clerk of the Court for Montgomery County who was convinced that My Father was an revolutionary Soldier made out his declaration for a pension under the act of June 7th 1832 and that Declaration was kept for a number of years Still hunting for living evidence and making [illegible] search for Several
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years and he entirely failing to obtain the evidence he believed necessary to secure his pension My Father became Very old and very much Indisposed and for the last eight or ten years of his life he was unable to attend to any business he was confined at home with old age and Disease He further states his Father John Grimstead before his death appointed him his executor to settle his estate and that as his executor he makes this Declaration for the benefit of the surviving children of his deceased Father, and For whose services we claim the amount of Pension sum And only on the Rolls of the of the revolutionary Army in support of the services of our Father John Grimstead as set fourth in this Declaration He now states the names of the surviving Children of John Grimstead Deceased and Heirs at Law Milly Gamble late Milly Grimstead Susannah Bowles late Susannah Grimstead Nancy Barker late Nancy Grimstead Reubin Grimstead and myself Lewis Grimstead He further states that two of his Sisters now reside in a distant part of the State of Indiana And that his Brother Reubin Grimstead is not of Sound mind he is entirely Simple and is a charge to me and my Family as it appears he ever will be
Sworn to and Subscribed to in open
Court the day and year first above Written
Lewis Grimstead

And the said Court after the reading the Declaration of Lewis Grimstead in right of and for a pension in the name of and for the services of his deceased Father John Grimstead in the war of the revolution do concur in the opinion that the entire statement made by Lewis Grimstead as set out in his declaration is correct and true And that the said Lewis Grimstead is a worthy and respectable citizen resident of this Country
written in Error - Lewis Grimstead
W H Ray Pres Judge of
E D Askins Jr CC
Robert S. Mitchell 
as Gr. JJPTPC
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At a County Court began and held for Washington County on Monday the 15th day of November AD 1852 - at the Court House in the Town of Springfield by and before the Honorable William Hays County Judge and the Worshipful, E. D. Askins Robert S. Mitchell, Oswell Gray and others Esqrs Justice of the Peace, of Said Court
Lewis Grimstead produced his Declaration to obtain a pension which was read in open Court, and Sworn to by the Said Lewis Grimstead, and the Court concurred in the Correctness of his statements and his respectability, which appears by their own proper signatures which are genuine-
In Testimony Whereof I John B. Starr Clerk of said Court have hereunto set my name and affixed the seal of said dam at Springfield the 15th day of November AD 1852
John B Starr Clerk
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State of Kentucky S.S.
Montgomery County
Personally appeared before me one of the acting Justices of the Peace and for Said State and County William Northcutt a resident of Montgomery County and who is in the Sixty seventh year of his age and first being duly Sworn according to law he states that he has resided a Neighbor to old John Grimstead for the last twenty years up to the time of his death that he was intimately and well acquainted with him that length time and often herd him State his having served in the war of the revolution as a common Soldier, and from the character of Old John Grimstead for truth and Veracity a character he stood impeachable in & was universally believed in his neighborhood that he was a soldier in the war of the revolution and that he served as a Virginia Continental Soldier, The old man John Grimstead lived to be a very old and infirm man I would Suppose he must of been hear One hundred years of age when he Died and for some Eight or ten years previous to his death he in Consequence of Old age was Confined to his house and room He had always claimed a right to a pension but was unable to succede He some time before he died appointed his Son Lewis Grimstead his Executor to his estate in which Capacity he Lewis Grimstead now acts
Sworn to and Subscribed to Wm Northcutt
this 25th day of December 1852
State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I do hereby Certify the foregoing Deposition of William Northcutt was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me and I further Certify that the deponant William Northcutt is a respectable good Citizen in this County and is entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 23d day of December, 1852
John, D, Treadway HMC
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State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
Personally appeared before me John D. Treadaway, one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for Said State and County Harrison Caywood who is now in his fortyeth year of his age and first being duly Sworn according to law He States that he has known old John Grimstead Deceased late of this County for for the last twenty five past having lived his very near neighbor that space of time and have repetedly time and again heard him state of his services of the revolutionary war as a Soldier in the war of the revolution he has stated that he has marched in that war with bleeding feet half Clothd and half fed as his fellow soldiers did with him was paid off in Continental money not worth a Cent and did Complain that he could not obtain his pension as others were getting he lived to be very Old It was supposed in his neighborhood he was about One hundred years old when he died for some Eight or ten years before he died he was very infirm Confined to his residence It was universally believed in the County, that old John Grimstead was a Soldier and did serve in the war of the revolution old John Grimstead was universally respected for his truth and Veracity in any statement by him made
Sworn to and Subscribed to H. Caywood
this 23d day of December, 1852
State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I do hereby Certify the foregoing Deposition of Harrison Caywood was this day Sworn to and Subscribed to before me and I further Certify the Deponent Harrison Caywood is a man of the first respectability a highly respectable citizen of this Country and is entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 23d day of December 1852
John D. Treadway JPMC
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State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
Personally appeared before me one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said State and County George Duckworth aged fifty years and first being duly Sworn according to Law he States, he has been well acquainted with Old John Grimstead Deceased late of this County for the Space of twenty years last past and lived his near neighbor He States he has been frequent Conversations with him John Grimstead during that length of time and have often herd the old man Say he served as a Soldier in the revolutionary war, and talk of his services as having served h e was a very old man I would believe him to be very near One hundred years old previous and for several years before his death he was confined to his house with old age and infirmity he died on his farm joining land to my farm I was at his burial he was a man of undoubted Veracity and his statements made were universally relyed on for truth his will he appointed his Son Lewis Grimstead his Son his executor of his estate who is now acting as such
Sworn to and Subscribed to George Duckworth
this 23d day of December 1852
State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I do hereby Certify the foregoing Deposition of George Duckworth was this day taken Sworn to and Subscribed to before me and I further Certify the Deponent George Duckworth is a highly respectable good citizen of this Country and is entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 23d day of December 1852
John D. Treadway JPMC
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State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
Personally appeared before me one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said County and State Jeremiah Northcutt who is forty two years of age and first being duly Sworn according to Law he States he has been well acquainted with Old John Grimstead for Eight years last past and previous to his death and have lived within one and half Mile of him during that Space of time and have had frequent Conversations with him and the Old Man often Stated his services as a Soldier in revolutionary war and that he was a soldier in the service and in that war I have no Kind of Doubt the old man told me he yet had Some of his Continental Money on hand it was reputed and believed in the neighborhood that he John Grimstead was a Soldier and did serve as such in war of the revolution He was a very old man I would suppose him to be one hundred years old or nearly so old when he Died I attended his Burial his son Lewis Grimstead as his executor is still settling his estate
Sworn to and Subscribed to Jeremiah Northcutt
this 23d day of December, 1852
State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I do hereby Certify the foregoing deposition of Jeremiah Northcutt was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further Certify the deponent Jeremiah Northcutt is a highly respectable Citizen of this County and is entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 23d day of December 1852
John. D. Treadway JPMC
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State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
Personally appeared before me one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said State and County John H Finch who is now in the thirty eight year of his age and first being duly sworn according to Law he states that he has been intimately acquainted with Old John Grimstead Deceased five years previous to his death in Several Conversations had with him in his lifetime the old man Stated he had served as a soldier in the war of the revolution and that he ought to have his pension as well as those that was getting pensions that he suffered much while in the service of his Country the old man was very old and very infirm and very nearly blind the old an John Grimstead before he died Sent for me to come to his Sons house to witness his will which I did do and in that will he John Grimstead appointed his son Lewis Grimstead Executor in which capacity he is still acting he was reputed and believed to be a man of strict Truth
Sworn to and Subscribed to John H. Finch
this 23d day of December, 1852
State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I do hereby Certify the foregoing deposition of John H Finch was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further Certify the deponent John H Finch is a worthy good Citizen of this County and is entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 23d day of December 1852
John. D. Treadway JPMC

State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
Personally appeared before me one of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said state and county William S Manholn aged thirty seven years and first being duly Sworn according to law He states that Jon Grimstead now deceased lived his neighbor five miles Distant up to
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up to the day of his death when he Died I was called on to make his Coffin which I did do and on referring to my Book of Charges in which I Kept for work done in my Shop which is now before me I find the charge made in the following words
Sharpsburg Ky 1851
February 6th John Grimstead Dr
To 1 Coffin his Burial $10-00
He further states that some time after the Burial of old John Grimstead his son Lewis Grimstead paid my bill as above stated for the making of his Fathers Coffin Old John Grimstead was a very old man and very infirm
Sworn to and Subscribed W S Manholn
to this 24th day of December 1852
State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I do hereby Certify the foregoing deposition of William S. Manholn was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further Certify the deponent William S Manholn is a respectable good Citizen of this County and is entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 23d day of December 1852
James Bean JPMC
I certify the error in the third line in the name of William S Manholn in the insertion was done and interlined before Signing the Deposition. Also the word in the fifth line the word That Before the word John also was amended before Signing the Deposition-
And which I certify to that fact - James Bean JPMC
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State of Kentucky
Montgomery County Sct.
I Andrew J Stevens, Clerk of the Court for said County, do certify that John D. Treadway and James Bean, whose names appear officially to the foregoing Certificates, are now, & were at the time of signing the same Justices of the Peace in and for the County & State aforesaid duly Commissioned and sworn, and that their said signatures are genuine, The Commission of John D Treadway is dated the 17th day of October 1851, and that of James Bean Esqr. is dated 26th day of May 1851
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of Montgomery County Court at office in Mount Sterling this 25th day of December 1852
Andrew J. Stevens Clk MCC
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March 3, 1939.
BA-J/ILL
John Grinstead
R. 4338
Mrs. Beulah Grinstead
430 S. Spring
Nevada, Missouri.

Dear Madam:
The data which follow are found in the papers on file in pension claim, R. 4338, based upon service in the Revolutionary War of John Grinstead.
John Grinstead resided in Prince William County, Virginia, during his early life and at the time of the Revolutionary War. He moved about the year 1796 from Virginia to Bourbon County, Kentucky, and resided about thirty years, then moved a short distance and settled in Montgomery County, that same state. He continued to reside in Montgomery County, Kentucky, until his death on February 7, 1851. At that time he was ninety-nine years of age; the date and place of his birth were not given, nor the name of his wife and date of their marriage.
In 1852, the children who survived John Grinstead were listed as follow: Lewis Grinstead, aged fifty-two, his youngest child, a resident of Washington County, Kentucky; Reubin Grinstead, who lived with said Lewis; Milly (Grinstead) Gamble; Susannah (Grinstead) Bowles; and Nancy (Grinstead) Barker. Two of these daughters resided then in a distant part of Indiana, their names not designated.
November 1, 1852, Lewis Grinstead applied for the pension which might have been due him and his brothers and sisters, noted above, on account of service of their father, John Grinstead, in the Revolutionary War. It was stated then that John Grinstead entered service as a private in the Virginia Infantry and continued one year, eight or nine months, and that he served two other terms of six or nine months as private in the Virginia troops; the name of his officers or specific dates of this service were not given. It was
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stated further that he suffered from cold, hunger and lack of clothing during said service. The claim for pension was not allowed as proof of the alleged service was not established as required by the pension laws.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.

2.
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No. 38,614.
John Grinstead dec
Kentucky
D D Addison Sep 28/52
Same May 22, 1854
Same July 31, 1854
4338
Act June 7 1832
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D. D. Addison
July 31/54
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239
Pension Office July 31, 1854
Sir,
I have personally examined the application of the children of John Grinstead decd, late of the State of Kentucky, under the act of June 7, 1832, and am of opinion that the decision of this office suspending this claim as communicated to you by letters dated September 28, 1853 and May 22, 1854 are correct, and must be affirmed.
The evidence shows that a man named John Grinstead rendered some service in the Virginia Continental line during the revolutionary war, but is entirely facts to identify the soldier as the father of the claimants. Mere handwriting evidence of revolutionary service has never been deemed satisfactory, and the evidence tending to prove identity in this case is entirely of this character. The claim will remain suspended until further evidence is filed. I reman yours &c
D. D. Addison Eq
Present.
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D. D. Addison
May 22/54
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280
Pension Office
May 22, 1854
Sir
The additional proofs in support of the claim of the children of John Grinstead, deceased of Ky, under the act of June 7, 1832, do not materially strengthen the case.
Lewis Grinstead stated that Mr Cox of Montgomery County drew up a declaration for his father a number of years before his death. If that statement can be found or its contents proved it may furnish some mean of identifying the claimant with the man shown by the rolls to have served in the Virginia Line. Cannot the names of some of his Regimental or company officers be recollected?
It would seem probable that the children can remember some incidents of his service. If so, it will be important to state them.
D. D. Addison Esq
Present.
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I find no other application in this name under Act of 1832 from Va, Ky, Tennee or Inda
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Washington May 15, 1854
Dear Sir
Herewith enclosed you will find some additional evidence in support of the claim of John Grinstead of Kentucky, for a Pension under the Act of June 7, 1832, and I have to request that you will cause a re-examination of his claim at your earliest convenience.
The papers now filed, I think, ought to satisfy  you as to his identity with the soldier of the same name, the evidence of whose service I filed some time since.
I am Very respectfully
Your Ob St
D. D. Addison

Honble L. P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
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Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
D.C.

176,884
3
1812
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John Grinstead
Ky sus 32
Cole

Hon. L. P. Waldo
Com of Pensions
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Aug. 19, 1853.
Appl of Lewis Grinstead, son of John Grinstead,
Kentucky.
Act 7th June, 1832,
D. D. Addison,
Present.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
PENSION OFFICE, OFFICIAL BUSINESS
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March 3, 1939.
BA-J/ILL
John Grinstead Letter in
R. 4338
John Grinstead
S. 35988
Mrs. Beulah Grinstead
430 S. Spring
Nevada, Missouri.
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of soldiers with the name John Grinsetad who served from Virginia.
A search of the Revolutionary War records of this office have been made and two claims for pension found based on service of soldiers with that name of Virginia; John Grinstead, pension claim, R. 4338 and John Grinstead, pension claim, S. 35988. Their records are furnished you herewith.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.
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Jan. 23, 1939.
REC'D JAN 25 1939
MAIL SUB-DIV. VETS ADM
READER #4
Pension Office
Washington, D.C.
I should like to have certified copies of all Pension Records filed under the name of John Grinstead, a Revolutionary soldier, I believe there were two John Grinsteads from Virginia who served in this war and I should like both Pension Records.
Will you please inform me if these are on file, and what the expense would be to obtain the certified copies
Mrs. Beulah Grinstead
430 S. Spring
Nevada Mo.
Both if here
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4338.
John Grinstead
1939 - Mar. 3 - Hist. to Beulah Grinstead I.L.L.
REJECTED
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John Grinstead
Add Evidence
Act 1832
Kentucky
Suspended
D. D. Addison
Present
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State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
Personally appeared before me James R Wilson one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for Said State and County John Mitchell who is now in the Sixty fifth year of his age and first being duly Sworn according to Law he States that he has resided a Neighbor to Old John Grinstead in this County for the space of more than twenty five years and has been intimately acquainted with him that length of time he States he has often heard the old man say he was a Soldier in the revolutionary war and it was understood and believed in the neighborhood that he did Serve and was a Soldier in the Revolutionary war And on public occasions he was Honored by placing him front or foremost in respect for him as an old Soldier of the revoluion
Sworn to and Subscribed John Mitchell
this 29th March 1854

State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I Certify the foregoing deposition of John Mitchell was this day Sworn to and Subscribed to before me And I further Certify that John Mitchell is a man unblemished good character and standing and his Statements are entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 29th day of March 1854
James R. Wilson J.P.M.C.

State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
Personally appeared before me One of acting Justices of the peace in and for the County of Montgomery and State aforesaid Doct David O Tully being fort eight years of Age and first being duly sworn according to Law he States he has lived the
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the near neighbor of Old John Grinstead for the space of twenty five years past and knew him and those of his family having most of that time been his family Physician and have often heard the old man say he was a Soldier and Served in the war of the revolution It was a fact that it is a matter generally understood and believed in the neighborhood that he sd Grinstead was a Soldier and did serve as stated in the revolutionary war And in conformation of the General belief of his Services he was respected as such on public occasions as a revolutionary Patriot
Sworn to and Subscribed D. O. Tully
this 29th day March 1854

State of Kentucky
Montgomery County S.S.
I Certify the foregoing Deposition of Doctor David O Sully was this day sworn to and subscribed before me And I further Certify Doctor David O. Tully is a high minded honorable Gentleman of unimpeachable good character and an esteemable Gentleman and is entitled full Credit
Given under my hand this 29th day of March 1854
James R. Wilson J.P.M.C.

State of Kentucky
Montgomery County Sct.
I Andrew J. Stevens, Clerk of the County Court in and for the County & State aforesaid, do Certify, that James R Wilson whose name appears officially to the foregoing Certificate was at the time of signing the same a Justice of the Peace in & for the County & State aforesaid duly elected & sworn, & that his signature above is genuine
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & Affixed the seal of our said Court, done at Mt Sterling this 30th day of March 1854
A. J. Stevens clk
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D. D. Addison
Sept 28/53
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596
Pension Office
Sep 28 1853
Sir
A John Grinstead did render some service in the war of the Revolution, but I can not admit the claim made by his children merely upon the production of a Certificate of the Auditor of Virginia showing a settlement with a man of his name for military service, and the affidavits of some of his neighbors not contemporaries of his, at the term of the war, that he had always asserted that he served, Neither that he lived until 1851 and found it so utterly impossible to establish his service, as to despair of being pensioned of he applied, It is useless to point out to you, who knew so well, the character of evidence necessary to establish the case.
D D Addison Esq
Present
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Addl. Evidence in the Case of John Grinstead of Kentucky

L. P. Waldo Esq
Comr of Pensions
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Washington August 12th 1853
Dear Sir
I herewith enclose a Certificate from the Auditor of Virginia, showing a payment made to John Grinstead of L44,,8,,7 for services as a Soldier in the Revolution, prior to 1782, and have respectfully to request that it may be filed with his papers on file in your Office, in support of his claim under the Act of June 7, 1832
Mr. Grinstead made application from Kentucky.
I am Very respectfully
Yr Mo Ob St
D. D. Addison

L. P. Waldo
Comr. of Pensions
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THIS IS TO CERTIFY; That it appears from a list in this office of such Officers and Soldiers of the Virginia Continental Line as settled their accounts and received certificates for the balance of their Full Pay, according to an act of assembly, passed the November session 1781, directing the Auditors of Public Accounts to settle and adjust the pay and accounts of said Officers and Soldiers from the 1st January 1777 to 31st December 1781, (see Hening's Statutes at Large, vol. 10, p. 462,) that a settlement was made on the 5th day of May 1783 in the name of John Grinstead as a soldier and evidence of the indebtedness of the State to him for L44,,8,7 delivered to himself but as the original settlements or copies thereof are not to be found in this office, the term of service embraced therein cannot be stated.
Given under my hand at the First Auditor's Office, Richmond, this 10th day of August 1853,
No Seal of Office.
G. W. Chetter
Actg. aur.
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Washington January 10th 1853
Sir
Enclosed you will find the Application for a Pension under the Act of June 7, 1832, of the heirs of John Grinstead, deceased, to which I respectfully call your attention and ask an early decision
I am
Yr Mo Ob St
D. D. Addison

This paper having been over revoked was not filed at the time of its date
D D Addison
Aug 19/53

Jas. E. Heath
Comr. of Pensions