Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 9438, for John Jacob Nay, Virginia
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Va.         Nay, John Jacob           S. 9438
 or Jacob
carded
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32..753.,
Virginia
John Jacob Nay, decd.
alias Jacob Nay.
of    in the State of      who was a private in the     commanded by Captain      of the      commanded by     in the Virginia line for 18 mos.
Inscribed on the Roll of Richmond at the rate of 60 Dollars --(Cents crossed out) per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. 
Ending 14" Sept. 1847
Certificate of Pension issued the 18 day of July 1850 - and sent to Hon John > Barbour
Arrears to the 4th of       Present
Semi-annual allowance ending 
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by H. E. Robinson Clerk, Book E  Vol. 2  Page 20
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No 37963
John Jacob Nay dec
alias Jacob Nay
Va
Act 7 June 1832
adm. 18 mo pri
$110. p an
from 4 March 1831 to 14 Sept 1847 the day of his death payable to Vincent Nay, only surviving child of John Jacob Nay ded.
Hon John S. Barber
Present
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37963 May 8/50
(Vincent Nay's crossed out)
Declaration
get [illegible] Nay about 3z Va
In[illegible] 18.4.9
[illegible] J. S. Barbour
Present
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Culpeper county court November 19th 1849.
Vincent Nay dame into court & filed on oath his declaration for a pension in the words and figures as follows to wit:
Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed Jun 7, 1832.
State of Virginia}
Culpeper County} to wit:
On this 19th day of November in the year of Christ 1849, personally appeared in open court in the county court of Culpeper the same being a court of record, Vincent Nay of the state and county aforesaid, who declares on his corporal oaths that he will be eighty years of age on the 15th day of January 1850, who doth on oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of June 7th 1832, that he is the son & only living child of John Jacob Nay, who was usually called Jacob Nay (decd). that said John Jacob Nay was a soldier in the war of the Revolution, in the army of the U. States and in his ^last service marched from Culpeper as he believes in 1780 under Lieut. James Barbour & he believes his father marched to the South. He was twice in the regular service. Before the year 1832 his said father removed to Harrison County. He was then weak of mind and too imbecile to do business. His memory was a waste. In consequence of which the said Vincent Nay went to Harrison County & lived there to his father death, which happened on the 14' September 1847. He was present at this death burial and funeral. And Zachariah Crim a credible Witness also made and proved to the satisfaction of the court, the death of the said John Jacob Nay on the said 14" September 1847. said Crim is a credible
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witness near Seventy nine years of age & he also proved that Vincent Nay is the son & only living child of John Jacob Nay decd. Old Nay was his Crim's uncle - He remembers said Jacob Nay's return from the Revolutionary war, and that he was in service and he swears positively to his (Nay's) death the 14" September 1847. And it was further proved by the evidence of Christopher Courtney, that said John Jacob Nay was a soldier of the Revolution, the length of his service he does not Know. He knows then he marched & went (though a boy) part of the way with the soldiers that marched with Jacob Nay- and said Courtney and said Vincent Nay also proved that there never was any other person in the county bearing the name of John Jacob Nay. Said Crim also proved the mental infirmity of old Nay, his removal to Harrison - Vincent going there and remaining till his father's death. Old Nay was one hundred & one years old when he died. Vincent Nay further declares that he did not know that his father was entitled to a pension until March last, when James M. Grigsby told him he was entitled, & said Grigsby going to President Taylor's inauguration did at the request of Vincent Nay make enquiry (as he believes) at the pension office (Washington) through the assistance of Mr. Pendleton, the then Congressman from this district - and then was he informed of his right in his deceased father's behalf to a claim for a pension. 
And the court certify that full credence is given is given to this declaration & evidence. The declarant and witnesses shewed that their characters for veracity & integrity were fair & unimpeached, by persons of credit & respectability - all which is ordered to be certified.
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State of Virginia
Culpeper County to wit:
I Fayette Mauzy Clerk of the county Court of Culpeper county do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true copy of the declaration for a pension of Vincent Nay, and the order of court made thereon. In testimony I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said court this 29' day of November 1849
F. Mauzy cl.
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June 21/50
J. S. Barbour
Nat come [illegible]
Mr Arnes
Hon. John S. Barbour
of [illegible] 
Present
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At a Circuit Superior court of Law and chandery held for Culpeper County at the courthouse thereof on the 14h day of June 1850. Vincent Nay and Zachariah Crimm came unto Court and made oath to an affidavit in writing, which is in the following words and figures to wit-
State of Virginia; Circuit Superior Court of Law and chancery for Culpeper county-
This day Vincent Nay aged Seventy nine years the 15h of January last past, as he states came into open court and on his corporal oath declares, that his father now deceased, who was Christened John Jacob Nay, and usually called Jacob Nay, as he verily believes was a soldier of the regular army in the war of the revolution as he has heretofore declared in the county court of Culpeper and that he remembers when his father returned from the war, he had a good deal of paper money, That his father lost his mind many years before 1832, and never regained it to his death which happened the 14h of September, 1847. and that his said father was the only man named Nay, who was in the regular army from Culpeper County. as he believes, - and Zachariah Crimm made oath that his grandmother was the sister of John Jacob Nay's Father (her maiden name was Caty Nay; which John Jacob Jay was the was the father of said Vincent Nay. His Grandfather and Vincent Nay's Grandfather came from Germany together and settled in Culpeper County - that he lived within two miles of Vincent Nay's [illegible] and Grandfather, and that he still remembers when the said John Jacob Nay usually called Jacob Nay returned from the revolutionary war, in which he was soldier- Said Crimm stated that his relation with the family of Nay and his living near them made him acquainted with most of their affairs, and he knows that Vincent Nay's father was only person of that family and name in Culpeper county who was a soldier of the regular army in the war of the revolution. He further made oath that he does not know his age, but he knows that he is about the same age of Vincent Nay - they were boys together -
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I have known the above named Vincent Nay for some years past from my own knowledge of him and representations of his neighbours, I am satisfied that he is an upright honest and truthful man, and that his statements whether upon oath or otherwise are entitled to the fullest credit.
Saml Chelton
14 June 1850,
I certify that many years ago Henrie Read resided in the county of Culpeper and removed to the west. I do not know that he ever held any commission as a militia officer during his residence in the county of Culpeper and never heard that he had.
R G Ward
14 June 1853
I have known Zachary Crimm for upwards of Thirty years. and from my knowledge of him consider him a man entitled to credit and may be believed upon oath
Garland T. Wheatley
14 June 1850-
And Samuel Chilton, Robert G. Ward and Garland F. Wheatley came into court and severally made oath to the affidavits appended at the foot thereof, all which is ordered to be certified to the commissioner of Pensions
A copy 
teste
R. G. Ward clk
Memd The above named Samuel Chilton with the late representative in congress from this District and Garland T. Wheatley is a highly respectable gentleman residing in the County of Culpaper R. G. Ward
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I Robert G Ward clerk of the circuit superior court of 
I am and chancery for the said county of Culpeper in the State of Virginia, do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true trans {words missing} the records. of the said {part of word missing}, 
In testimony where of I hereunto set my hand and annex the Seal of the said court this 17 day of June 1850

R G Ward clk
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Rev. and 1812
Wars Section
AWR/HMM
March 8, 1930.
Mr. Otis G. Wilson
Fairmont
West Virginia.
Dear Sir:
You are herewith furnished the histories of the only soldiers named John Nay that are found on the Revolutionary War records this bureau.
From the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, 9438, it appears that John Jacob Nay (whose father, his name not stated, came from Germany and settled in Culpeper County, Virginia) marched from Culpeper County, Virginia, in 180, under Lieutenant James Barbour, with the Virginia Troops: that he was in the service another tour and served in all eighteen months.
It also appears in said claim that he moved to Harrison County, Virginia, in 1804, and lived there until his death which occurred September 14, 1847, aged one hundred and one years.
The soldier's son, Vincent Nay, born January 15, 1770 or 1771, was allowed pension on account of the services of his father on his application executed November 19, 1849, at which time he was living in Culpeper County, Virginia, and stated that he was the only living child, and that his father was christened John Jacob Nay but was usually called Jacob Nay, and that he went to Harrison County, Virginia, and took care of his father before his death. 
It is also stated in said claim that John Nay died in the summer or fall of 1840 in Harrison County, Virginia, at the home of his son, Armsted Nay.
Zachariah Crimm stated that his grandmother, Caty Nay, ^whose children were [illegible], was a sister of John Jacob Nay's father.
[illegible] Crimm
that his grandfather & Vincent Nay's grandfather came from Germany together & settled in Culpeper County.
For other histories John Nay, [illegible]
Very truly yours,
EARL D. CHURCH
Commissioner.
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Nathan Goff in letter of June 26; 1850 stated that John Jacob Nay died in summer or fall of 1840 at home, his son Armstead Nay, and that John Jacob Nay moved to Harrison Co. about 1804 from Culpeper County
I did not use the information as it seems that Nathan Goff (had the two John Nays (if there were two) confused and paid information as may apply to John Nays, 11128 instead
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of John Jacob Nay S. 9438

UCS

4/25/40
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N37.963
John Jacob Nay in VA
Sct Hon. J. S. Barbor 24 May 1850
Act of June 4 1832
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1928 Nov. 6 - Hist to VV. Guy Tebrick {CW}
See letter in Harrison Crim S. 8254
1930. Mar 8 hist to Mr. Otis G. Wilson See case of John Nay S.11128 MCD
1940 Jan. 25 hist to Hon. Jennings Randolph
Rev War 9438
INVALID
File No. 9438
John Jacob Nay alias Jacob Nay
Pri. Rev War
Act: June 9th '32
Index: - Vol. 1, Page 272
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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1928 Nov. 6 - Hist to VV. Guy Tebrick {CW}
See letter in Harrison Crim S. 8254
1930. Mar 8 hist to Mr. Otis G. Wilson See case of John Nay S.11128 MCD
1940 Jan. 25 hist to Hon. Jennings Randolph
Rev War 9438
INVALID
File No. 9438
John Jacob Nay alias Jacob Nay
Pri. Rev War
Act: June 9th '32
Index: - Vol. 1, Page 272
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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Dear Sir         July 8h. 1850
I inquired yesterday of the Honorable Mr. Hoghman if he recollected Jacob Nay of Harrison. He [illegible] the copy of the 90891 letter & he [illegible] or John Nay
I think the evidence in the case full & satisfactory and after to long delay, I ask a decision
Yrs very Respy
J. S. Barbour
let to J. L. Edwards
Comm &c
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FREE
(stamp) PARKS [illegible] JUN 27 [illegible]
J. L. Edwards, Esqr
Commissioner of Pensions
City of Washington
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J. S. Edwards        Clarksburg Va
Comr- Pensions       26" June 1850
Sir, I have just reced yours, of the 21s prt- Meckey, inquiries relative to, the Suite, John Nay. B. Pension
I think the Mr. Nay, decd. in the Summer or Fall 1840-
I, think he moved to this County in the year 1804 - from Culpeper County Va.  The facts, J. of Occurs Cannot know, but think, there is no doubt of the fact, - 
all Nay lived some distance from here, - My impression ^is that he Served with, and declare it his Son's. Name, Armstead Nay, and that if he sept. any papers or effects of any kind, they were left with him, he died very poor - His Son's Armstead J. Nacces not Sem Jr. Several years
Very Respectfully
your Obt. Svt.
Nathan Goff
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Nathan Goff
Hon Joseph Johnson
& 
Rch. Harrisonburg 
J.W
June 21/50
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Pension Office 502
June 21, 1850
Sir,
I have to request that you will inform me when John Nay, of Harrison County died; who had charge of his person and property; at what time he (were crossed out) came to Harrison County to reside, and any other particular in relation to him, which may have a tendency to shew that he was the fame man who lived in the county of Culpeper before he removed to Harrison. He was a revolutionary pensioner
J
Nathan Goff, Esqr.
Clarksburg, Va.
Hon. Joseph Johnson
Bridgeport, Va.
Postmaster,
Harrisonburg, Va.
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Hon. J. F. Barbour
24 May 1850
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Pension Office
May 24h 1850
Sir,
I have the honor to inform you that the declaration under the act of 7 June 1832 in the case of John Jacob Nay decd. has been examined and placed in file.
The Service for which this claim is made has not been specified as required in the Regulations. The statement now presented does not ^give the commencement, nor the duration of Nays enlistment. It is alleged that (th crossed out) was attached to the same company with Leutenant (Lieutenant) James Barber - We do not know too what Regiment Lt. Barber belongs, if this could be shown it is possible that the Rolls, if the Company in which he was the Lieutenant May afford some proof oof the service of Nay.
No evidence in support of the Statement of Vincent Nay in relation to the service of (Nay crossed out ) his Va this has been advanced - Unless some record proof in the testimony of those who had a personal knowledge of Nays service, showing that he (served and life crossed out) was in actual Service not less than 6 mos be furnished this claim cannot be allowed
Hon. J. S. Barber
Present
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J. S. Barbour
Present
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District of Columbia
Washington County. 
This day JOhn J. Barbour of Virginia made oath before me a Justice of the peace for the County & district aforesaid, (who said on oath crossed out) that he has known Christopher Conatory, the witness in the case of Vincent Nay, for the pension of Jacob or John Jacob Nay, for the last thirty five years, and that his reputation for veracity & honesty is fair & unimpeached. and that testimony to this effect was given before the court of Culpeper when has declaration was made by Geo: T. Thomas Esqr Pensioner in Chancery of the Superior Court of Culpeper, by the said John J. Barbour & he believes by others. That testimony in Support of the credibility of Zach. Crimm was given by L. G. Field Esq: a Justice of the County court of Culpeper in Va. & by others, and said Barbour farther made oath that he became acquainted with said Vincent Nay in the year 1814," whilst he was a soldier of Capt. C. L. Shackelford in Company of Riflemen of Militia in Genl. Wm. Madison Breford of which said Genl. he adisen(?) the said Barbour
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was aid de camp. (aide-de-camp) He remembers that J. Nay was of the picket guard the night of the day preceding the Capture of the City of Washington. & in the skirmish with the British the day following ^ at Belplains,- where Jacob Nay was seen by Barbour - (& the crossed out) circumstances of which Nay remembered him said Barbour in Court. When the declaration was made - he was a good soldier & be believes is a good citizen.-
And the Said Barbour made oath that the pallia(?) records I heir - that French Stroker(?) & James Pendleton were delayed from Culpeper County to the Genl. operating of Virginia, in May 1783. And, that he said Barbour verily believes ^from circumstances that the "Col. Pendleton" entered on the records of the Virga. officers & Soldiers receiving their Volume of full pay, as Loving recd. Jacob Nay partipant for Tenn pay, - is the same James Pendleton who is standing the Journal of the Harper or the legion N Va. for heavy 1783. too have been heir at the Seat of Government of Va. & during that Tepein in actual duty in the ^said Harper - he have heard of any other deds Pendleton in Culpeper Coutny & does not believe there ever was any other entitled to the record by Commission,
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Said Barbour further made oath that said Vincent Nay produced to the court of Culpeper a Strong pertipant of his character from Sanding respectable Citizen of Jamequire, which was Tehonsis(?) by General of the Inspis Thorshash- kindred of the late Chris Jaster Thorshall - he claim & other testimony the court certified the credibility of the witnesses - (signed) J. S. Barbour Given under my hand this 29th of May 1850.
James Callaghan, J.P.
I
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Sir-      pension office - May 28th 1850.
The conclusion at which you have arrived appear to me to be negative by the declaration of the applicant, & by the testimony of the witnesses who testified in open court & whose testimony was taken down in Court & is certified to you. I say in open court, because these proofs were not done in a corner, but in the presence of the Court & (the crossed out) its officers, & it is taken down by the clerk, under the eye & direction of the Court
It was impossible that those witnesses should know what is on your records, and the Coincidence in Several particulars, material to the enquiring, is a corroboration of what is shown to be there, & in which your records do not contradict them, & do not Sustain them.
You object that the Service performed by Jacob Nay, (important crossed out) as shewn by your records, does not prove the said Jacob Nay is John Jacob Nay of Culpeper county,- Let us see how your records affirm or disprove the fact, that the soldier Nay whether called Jacob or John Jacob, went from Culpeper
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County. There is no other soldier from any County in Virginia who bears the name of Nay on your rolls. yet those rolls do prove that there was a soldier in the Virginia line named Nay, who did serve who was entitled on the 24th day of May 1783. to a balance of his full pay from Virg'a and that he did receive a certificate for that balance of full pay, which was delivered to Colo Pendleson on the said 24th day of May 1783.
Now Sir, the journals of the House of Delegates of Virginia, in your office & shown me with your {can't read} proved that French Shroky & James Pendleton were the representatives for the year 1783, - and the said journals also show that the {can't read}  of Virginia was in session on said 23rd of May 1783 and that the said Jas Pendleton was at that moment in the said house of delegates of Virg'a.  Your record of the soldiers then in name and {can't read} that the certificate for the balance of the pay of the soldiers in each {can't read} was rec'd sometimes by Mr Stroker one of the {can't read} & sometimes by Colo Pendleson the other delegate. And I testify that I never heard of
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of any other Colonel Pendleton in Culpeper but the said James Pendleton who was the delegate in 1783. Again - the witnesses swear that the said Nay enlisted & marched with Lieut. James Barbour from Culpeper County (Those crossed out) Your records show that there was but one James Barbour a Lieut. of the Cumberland line - that James Barbour was my fathers [illegible] brother who (went crossed out) marched to the South - was under Gates at Camden, under Greene at Guilford and died of a wound in battle at as the battle of Guilford. Your records prove that my Grandfather Col Barbour recd the summons of Lieut James Barbour pay the said James Barbour being marked "deceased (in crossed out) Feby 1784"
Does not this proof & your records in relation to James Pendleton & James Barbour both from Culpeper - The last of whom enlisted Nay & the former ((his crossed out) despote(?) in the Lafesta line) who received half pay, create the Strongest presumption that Nay the soldier was from Culpeper?
But you insist that if he was from Culpeper that the name is entered Jacob Nay and not John Jacob - Much of the dinot(?) that might arise in this enquiry, is dispelled by the fact as your records, that there was but one soldier of the
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name of Nay, in the Virginia line; and that there was one called Jacob Nay your record unquestionably proves, and I think the same record creates the strongest presumption from the {several words unreadable} Barbour that this soldier Jacob Nay was from Culpeper County {several words unreadable}(the nephew of the said soldier Nay) swears that he was named John Jacob Nay, & that he was called Jacob Nay - and he swears that he remembers the said Jacob Nay return after the war was one Christopher Counrtney a very old & respected member of the Baptist church every way credits {unreadab;e} proves that this identical Nay did enlist & {unreadable}, & that he Courtney {?} a Nay went part of the way with the soldiers.  How long he enlistd for or served on the point proven that this identical soldier was named John Jacob Nay, but that he was usually called Jacob Nay only.
1st  It is shown there was a soldier from Culpeper named Jacob Nay by your records-
2nd- It is proven that there never was any other soldier from Culpeper bearing the name of Nay than the identical Man.
3rd There was any other soldier named Nay, but one as your rolls prove.
4th It is proved that the identical soldier was usually called Jacob Nay.  The named John Jacob Nay
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5th. one soldier is entitled of the name of Nay - The proof then there never was but one in the Service- and the same proof clearly shows that the present applicant did enter- that he did march, & that he did return to Culpeper, after his Service
Can there be a rational debate on the question of fact, that this was the identical man & worker, who went from Culpeper both Lieut James Barbour, in Culpeper whose pay recd. by Colo. Pendleton the Delegate in the Legislature for Culpeper in 1783 & in Sepein the thing Sepein of that year? And if he & others of Culpeper Can be believed that there never was in the County of Culpeper any other soldier of that name of Nay can he claim be respected, without disregarding the Low allowing a pension he proof of the service & claim
Resp try Servanted
J. S. Barbour 
per Nay
May 28th 1850.
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January 25, 1940
This copies belongs in
Honorable Jennings Randolph             BA-J/MCS
House of Representatives                     John  Jacob Nay, S. 9438
Washington, D. C.                                 John Nay, S.  11128

My dear Mr. Randolph:
Reference is made to your request for information relative to Revolutionary War soldiers, Alexander Riggs and John Nay.

Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims for pension and bounty land made to the United States and based on the military service of soldiers in that war, A careful search of rhe records fails to show such claims on file on account of the service of any Alexander Riggs.

Your are furnished herein, the records of the only soldiers named John Nay that are found in the Revolutionary War records of this office.

The data which follow were taken from papers on file in the pension claim, S. 9438, based on the Revolutionary War service of John Jacob Nay.

The date of birth of John  Jacob Nay and the names of his parents are not shown. 

The father of John Jacob Nay came from Germany, date not given, and settled in Culpeper County, Virginia.

John Jacob Nay marched from Culpeper Conty, Virginia, in 1780, serving with the Virginia troops under Lieutenant James Barbour; he served another tour with the Virginia troops and his entire service amounted to eighteen months.

John Jacob Nay moved to Harrison County, Virginia, before 1832 and lived there until his death which occurred September 14, 1847, at which time he was aged one hundred one years.
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John Jacob Nay's son, Vincent Nay born January 15, 1770 or 1771, was allowed pension on account of the services of his father on his application executed November 19, 1849. At this time he was living in Culpeper County, Virginia, and stated that he was the only living child and that his father was christened John Jacob Nay but was usually called Jacob Nay and that he went to Harrison County, Virginia, and took care of his father before his death.
In 1850, Zachariah or Zachary Crimm stated that he was about the same age as Vincent Nay and that his (Zachariah Crimm's) grandmother, whose maiden name was Caty Nay, was the sister of John Jacob Nay's father and that his grandfather and Vincent Nay's grandfather came from Germany together and settled in Culpeper County, Virginia.
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John Nay, S. 11128
The data which follow were taken from papers on file in the pension claim, S.11128, based on the Revolutionary War service of John Nay.
John Nay was born in 1750 in Culpeper county, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown.
While living in Culpeper County, John Nay enlisted in 1778 or 17779 and served three months as private in Captain Henry Reed's Virginia company. He enlisted in the spring of 1781 and served two tours of three months each as private with the Virginia troops, part of the time he served in Captain Henry Reed's company and was at the capture of Cornwallis at Yorktown.
John Nay was allowed pension on his application executed August 22, 1832, at which time he was living in Harrison County, Virginia, having moved there from Culpeper County, Virginia, about 1804.
In 1833, John Nay's brother, William, aged sixty-nine years, testified in Harrison County, Virginia, in his behalf.
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There are no further data relative to the family of John Nay.

For information relative to the date of last payment of pension of John Nay, the name and address of the person paid and possibly date of soldier's death, it is suggested that your constituent apply to the Comptroller General, General Accountig Office, Records Division, Washington, D. C., giving the following data:

John Nay, Certificate 23402, issued September 26, 1835, rate $20 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831,  Act of June 7, 1832, Virginia Agency.

Very truly yours    

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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Seventy-Sixth Congress
Jennings Randolph, W. Va., Chairman
Ambrose J. Kennedy, MD.
William T. Schulte, IND.
Jack Nichols, Okla. Dan R. McGehee, Miss.
Joe B. Bates, Ky.
Pius L. Schwert, N.Y. 
Joseph A. McArdle, Pa.
Frank w. Fries, Ill.
Herman P. Everharter, Pa.
Rudolph G. Eberowicz, Mich.
William R. Poage, Tex.
John F. Hunter Ohio
Thomas D'Alesandro, Jr. MD.
Everett M. Dirksen, Ill.
George J. Bates, Mass.
Paul W. Shafer, Mich.
Stephen Bolles, Wis. Albert L. Vreeland, N. J.
James Beccombe, Ohio
Harry Sandager, R.I.
House of Represenetatives U. S.
Committee on District of Columbia
Washington, D.C.
January 22, 1940
Pension Records
Veterans Administration
Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen: 
Please send to me the pension records of the following:
Alexander Riggs, private in 3rd Battalion, Capt. William B. Gifford Co. Col. Elis Dayton, Maj. Joseph Bloomfield Regiment, New Jersey Troops, New Jersey troops.
John Nay, private in Lt. Ballard Smith's company, Virginia Infantry.
{Sent to Mrs. Finch Nay R1851
I am especially interested in the name or names of their children.
Thanks.
Very sincerely yours,
Jennings Randolph
JENNINGS RANDOLPH
(stamp) JAN 22 1940 MAIL SUB DIV congressional #
VETS ADM
(numbers 1-12 around the circumference)
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(Copy)
Clarksburg Va.
26 June 1830.
J. L. Edwards
Comr. of Pensions
Sir,
I have just received yours of the 21st last making inquiries relative to the late John Nay, R. Pensioner
I heard he, Mr. Nay, died in the Summer or fall 1840
I think he moved to this County in the year 1804 from Culpeper County Va. The fact, I of course, cannot know but think there is no doubt of the fact.
Mr. Nay lived some distance from here. My impression is that he lived with and did at the Son's house, Anstead Nay, and that if he left any papers or officials of any kind, they were kept with him, he died very poor. The son, Amstead I have not seen for several years.
Very Respectfully
Your obt Svt.
(Justice) Nathan Goff
House of Representatives July the 6th 1840
I knew two or three old men that lived some years since in that part of Harrison County Va. now included in the county of Marion
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Their names that is their first name since of there have been were for nine years. I cannoot say active that the particulars Mr. Nay inquired after was one of them not being at the time very well acquainted in his neighbourhood, yet my impression is that he did live there.
eEspectfully
T. S. Haymond
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Sir.    Washington July 18th 1850
I think is probable that J. Jacob Nay served eighteen months in the war of the Revolution. for the following resume
1st. Because other soldiers who marched with my uncle James Barbour in the year 1779 and '80 were of the 18th months Service (symbol of X surrounded by 4 dots) I remember the case of David Kinnaird & Teacht. On cary - Kinnaird had previously served 3 years in Grhvr Regt. I went 18 months Jrun Culpeper.
2d. Because Vincent Nay (the Son) told me that he understood his father served 18 months
Very Respy yrs
J. S. Barbour
(symbol of X surrounded by 4 dots) The act of openly Authorised a draft, for 18 months & vert that time
J. S. B.
Coco J. L. Edwards
Comr of pensions-
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I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, 9438, it appears that John Jacob Nay (whose father, his name not stated, came from Germany and settle in Culpeper county, Virginia) marched from Culpeper county, Virginia, in 1780, under Lieutenant James Barbour, with the Virginia Troops, that he was in the service another tour and served in all eighteen months.
It also appears in said claim that he moved to Harrison County, Virginia, in 1804 and lived there until his death which occurred September 14, 1847, aged one hundred and one years.
The soldier's son, Vincent Nay, born January 15, 1770 or 1771, was allowed pension on account of the services of his father on his application executed November 19, 1849, at which time he was living in Culpeper County, Virginia, and stated that he was the only living child and that his father was christened John Jacob Nay but was usualy (usually) called Jacob Nay, and that he went to Harrison Couonty, Virginia, and took care of his father before his death.
It is also stated in said claim that John Nay died in the summer or fall of 1840 in Harrison County, Virginia at the home of his son, Armsted Nay.
Zachariah Crim stated that his grandmother, Caty Nay, was a sister of John Jacob Nay's father.
Respectfully,
E. W. MORGAN
Acting Commissioner
Letter addressed too W. Guy Tetrick - See letter in Harmen Crim S.8254   AWF