Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 4755, for Joseph Ramsey, New Jersey
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(3-1776)

SERVICE: New Jersey

Ramsey, Joseph

NUMBER: S 4755

Carded

CONTENTS: [Blank]
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[Left Page]
New Jersey, 32020

Joseph Ramsey

Hunterdon Co. in the State of N. Jersey
was a Private in the company commanded
by Captain Alyear of the regt. commanded
by Col. Schenik in the N. Jersey line

Inscribed on the Roll of New Jersey
at the rate of 20 Dollars - Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 28th day of February 1843 and sent to Hon. J. W. Miller, Senate N. States.

Arrears to the 4th of March 1843.: $240.00
Semi-[annual] allowance ending in Sept. ": 10.00
$250.00

Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7 1832

Recorded by D. Brown Clerk,
Book E. 2, Vol. 3, Page 158

[Right Page]
A. M. Gargenor
June 27. 1831-
Same. Nov. 3/67.
Same. Nov 13/51
C.C. Tucker 8th Oct. 1854.
" " " Feb. 21 1855
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State of New Jersey
County of Hunterdon

On this 2nd day of August 1851, before me, a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, personally appeared John Ramsey and Sarah Kline, who being duly sworn according to law, depose and say that they are the only children of Joseph Ramsey, and Rachel, his wife, who died on the 26th day of January, 1806- That he the said Joseph Ramsey, after the death of the said Rachel, intermarried with Jane Bess in May 1807- That the said Joseph Ramsey died on the 13th day of July 1834, leaving Jane Ramsey his widow, and that the said Jane Ramsey died on the 15th of February 1847, leaving no children by the said Joseph Ramsey.

[Signatures]
John Ramsey
Sarah Kline

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year first above written. And I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with John Ramsey and Sarah Kline, and know them to be credible witnesses. 

[Signature]
Robert Finley, Justice of the Peace
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State of New Jersey
Hunterdon County SS.

I, William Emery, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said county, do hereby certify that the within named Robert Finley Esquire before whom the within affidavit was made is an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said county duly commissioned and authorized to take the same, that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such Justice; and also that Samuel Hill Esquire whose signature appears to the certificate on the opposite page, is the Presiding Judge of the Superior Court of Common Pleas of Hunterdon County, that full faith and credit are due to his official act as such Judge, and that their respective signatures are genuine.

In testimony whereof I have herewith set my hand and affixed the seal of the said court, at Flemington this fourth day of August A.D. 1831.
Mr. Emery, Clerk
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State of New Jersey
County of Hunterdon SS:

This is to certify that satisfactory proof has been made before me, Presiding Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said county, that John Ramsey and Sarah Kline are the only surviving children of Joseph Ramsey and Rachel Ramsey, deceased, who were revolutionary pensioners at the rate of $20 per annum- that the said Joseph Ramsey, subsequently to the death of his wife, the said Rachel, intermarried with Jane Bess on the 13th day of May 1807- that the said Joseph Ramsey died on 13th day of July 1834, and that the said Jane Ramsey died on the 15th day of February 1847, leaving no heirs by said Joseph Ramsey, and further that the alone named John Ramsey and Sarah Kline are the only heir of said deceased.

Given under my hand and the Seal of said Court this fourth day of August 1857.

Samuel Hill
The Superior Court of Common Pleas
Presiding Judge of Hunterdon County
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REVOLUTIONARY PENSION CLAIM.

Act of: [Blank]

POWER OF ATTORNEY
TO EXAMINE CLAIMS.

Charles C. Tucker,
Attorney,
Present.
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Power of Attorney.

Know all men by these presents: That I Sarah Kline of the County of Hunterdon in the State of New Jersey do hereby constitute and appoint Chas. C. Tucker, of Washington City, D. C., my true and lawful Agent and Attorney to prosecute the Claim of [Blank] for any amount of Revolutionary Pension or increase of Pension that may be due under the provisions of the Act of [Blank] or any Act or Resolution of Congress, and I hereby authorize my said Attorney to examine all papers and documents in relation to said Claim on file in the Departments at Washington City, or elsewhere, to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive the Certificate which may be issued for said Claim, and to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herin expressed: and to do all things that I might or could do, were I personally present. Hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said Attorney may lawfully do in the premises.

WITNESS my hand and seal this fourth day of November 1854

In presence of 

[Signatures]
Hon. Egbert ss.

Sarah Kline

State of New Jersey Hunterdon COUNTY-SS.

On this fourth day of November A.D. 1854, before me a Judge of Common Pleas in and for the County and State above mentioned personally appeared Sarah Kline and acknowledged the foregoing power of Attorney to be her act and deed for the purpose therein mentioned.

[Signature]
Hon. Egbert, Judge

State of New Jersey
Hunterdon County SS.

On the fourth day of November A.D. 1854, before me the undersigned Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared Sarah Kline a resident of said County, and made oath according to the law that she is identical person who executed the foregoing power of Attorney, and that she is directly interested in said Claim, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my said Attorney may use in prosecuting said Claim.

Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year above written.

[Signatures]
Sarah Kline
Hon. Egbert

State of New Jersey
County of Hunterdon

I William Emery Clerk of the County of Hunterdon, do hereby certify that William D. Egbert Esq., before whom the foregoing affidavit and acknowledgement were made and who has thereunto signed his name, was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace, in and for the County and State aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn, and that all his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit, and is sworn as one of the Judges of the  court of common pleas of said county.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto signed my name and affixed my official seal this 10th day of November 1854.

[Signature]
Mr. Emery, Clerk
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No 17046
Joseph Ramsey
Accd. MP

Return

[Amended]
6 [months] [private]
20$

To [James Ramsey] widow
for 4 months 31 to 13
July 1834 the day of his death

[Signature]
Hon. J. W. Miller
Senate
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
11th May- 1833

Sir:

The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in labular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done. These prints to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: } ) You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.

A Statement, showing the Service of Joseph Ramsey. Hunterdon Co. NJ.

[Table]
Period when the service was rendered: 
1776
Served to end of the war
At Several Times
At considerably over than 2 years

Duration of claimant's service
Years.: [Blank]
Months.: 1
Days.: [Blank]

Rank of the claimant.:
[Private]

Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served.:
Capts. Ally and Fraser Schamp

Names and Rank of the General and Field officers.:
Col. Mcholm Johnson Schamp

Battles in which the applicant was engaged.:
Long Island Skirmish with British
Short Hills
Springfield

Country through which he marched.:
N.J.
N.Y.
N.J.

Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period.:
Aged 85.
Hunterdon County
N.J.

Evidence by which the declaration is supported.:
Jersey Military Traditionary

I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. Edwards,
Commissioner of Pensions.
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2.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.

The following regulations have been adopted:

This law has been construed to extend, as well as to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Privated Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service. 

Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops.
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3. Persons employed in the Naval service.
4. Indian Spies.

As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.

DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.

State, Territory, or District of
County of } ss.

On this [Blank] day of [Blank] personally appeared (a) before [Blank] A. B. a resident (b) of [Blank] in the county of [Blank] and State, Territory or District of [Blank] aged (c) [Blank] years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the [provision] made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) [Blank], with [Blank] and served in the [Blank] (e) regiment of the [Blank] line, under the following named officers:

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers, the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he [entered] the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [Hand pointing right] This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of [Blank]
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.

[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.

I [Blank] of the Court of [Blank] do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of [Blank] for a pension.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this [Blank] day of [Blank] &c. 

If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.

Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the [Blank] and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with [Blank], who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that wel believe him to be [Blank] years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.

[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. [Blank] who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergy man, resident in the [Blank] and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the [Blank] and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I, [Blank] Clerk of the Court of [Blank] do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of [Blank] for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this [Blank] day of [Blank] &c.

Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.

If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the service of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case. 

The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6. To a solider.{ Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?
To an Officer.{ Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a solider of the Revolution.

The Court will see that [the] answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.

The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons- one of whom should be the nearsest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reupted and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of thse persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates. 

The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.

Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may take the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of the Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.

Whenever any official act is requried to be done by a Jduge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.

No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the decesased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter. 

[Footnote]
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid above for his guidance.
[b]The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:- For -year -months, and -days, I served as a -. For -months and -days, I served as a -; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Sme persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular plate or place where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensible in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

[Signature]
Dyck Caster
Chief Clerk
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application of
Joseph Ramsey

[faint unreadable writing]
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State of New Jersey, Hunterdon County ss:-

On this fifteenth day of August in the year of our lord 1832, in Open court before the Court of common pleas of Hunterdon now tilling at Flemington, personally appeared Joseph Ramsey now resident in the township of Readingtown in the County of Hunterdonand states aforesaid aged 85 years. He being duly sworn according to law, on his oath maketh the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefits of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.- Was that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated. That as to say I was born in the month of May in the year of our lord 1747, in the north of Ireland, in the County of Down. One of my brothers and myself came into the country when I was about 20 years old. After I was in the country I wrote home for an account of my age and the clergyman sent me an extract of the entry of my birth in the parish Register. I have that, yes, and from that I can calculate my age. At the time I just entered the services of the United States I lived in the Township of Readingtown in the County of Hunterdon and have resided there ever since.- in the year 1776 I belonged to Captain Benjamin Allyan['s] company, Col. David Schamp (that is now) was then Lieutenant of Allyan['s] company. The first I believe that the militia in then part of the country was called out, our Regiment command by Col. Mc Palen was called on to furnish two companies- there was two companies called out. I do not remember the captain, that was, but I remember that David Schamp was our Secretary. I- we marched down to Amboy. And I served a month that tour. After that, there was call for men to tour out for five months. I [volunteered] as one of our company. I was under David [Fraser], Captain, [and] David Schamp, Lieutenant, and John Tony Remsen.- We went to New York, I was in the battle of Long Island under Col. Phil Johnson where he was killed.
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I served that four months out and a few days over before I got home. After that David Schamp raised a volunteer company. I joined by company as a volunteer, he was captain- William Vansyckle was our Lieutenant- I don't remember who was ensign.- William Vansyckle was that one night taking some Tories near the  Readingtown meeting house, he was brought to Beyers at the meeting house I recollect. Dr. Jennings, who was also captain of Militia and was there, and cut out the bullet, and checked his wounds. Captain David Schamp and a good many of the militia was there and took some of the Tories that night- I joined Captain Schamp's company of volunteers directly after he returned from New York out of the five months services. I volunteered to do duty in that company to the end of the war. We were out a great deal in little scouting parties watching the British and Tories, and we were out often in a body when there was calls for the militia, it was out in militia duty at Amboy. I was out several times at Elizabeth Town and at Woodbridge as the war General Nathaniel Heards house was burnt by the British. We had a skirmish there that I remember one of the Americans had both his legs shot off at the knees by a ball from a field peer- I was with the militia when they roped over from Elizabeth Town to Staten Island and had a skrimish with the Tories & Refugees.- I was out several times at Newark- I was in the Battle at the Short Hills and on Battle at Springfield- I was out at the time of the battle of Monmouth, scouted a day or two before the battle and was then taken sick and brought home. I was out at the time Fort Washington was taken.
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I cannot now remember to particularize the dates and times of my going out, but after Captain Schamp rallied his company of volunteers I was out the greater part of the time to the end of the war. I am subscribed that I was out considerably more than two years.- I have no documentary evidence to prove my service or any memorandums to help my memory and almost all the officers and men that serviced with and knew [me] at that time are dead, except Col. Schamp, Andrew Bray, and a few of my neighbors who can testify to my character- I hereby reliquish any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state or territory.

Sworn and subscribed in open court Aug. 15 1832

[Signature]
Joseph Ramsey
Benjamin Egbert

Hunterdon County, State of New Jersey-
Andrew Bray of the township of Lebanon aged 72 years, been duly sworn according to law before Benjamin Egbert- one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Hunterdon, on his oath says, that he was well acquainted with Joseph Ramsey who has sworn to and subscribed the foregoing declaration, that he knew him in the Revolutionary War, that they served about 8 months apart- that he understood at that time that he was [illegible] and was out a great deal in the service of the United States as one of the miltia in the time of the war, that he and
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Joseph Ramsey has always been an esteemed a man of [illegible] and from what deponnet heard of his services at that time and his knowledge of his character he has full confidence in his statement.

Swon and subscribed
August 15 1832-

[Signatures]
Andrew Bray
Benjamin Egbert

State of new Jersey, Hunterdon County:
David Schamp of township of Readingtown in the County of Hunterdon aged 77, being duly sworn before George Rea- of the judges of the Court of Common Pleas, of the county of Hunterdon- on his oath says that he is well acquainted with Joseph Ramsey who hath sworn to and subscribed the foregoing declaration- that he has known him from a very short time after he first came into the country-  that shorty after he came into the country the said Joseph Ramsey came to the house of David Cole living between one and two meteres from deponent's father. That he had his house at David Cole, as long as the war lasted, that deponent became acquainted with him shortly after he came there and has been well acquainted with him ever since. That he was enrolled in the militia when they were first acquainted in the commencement of the war in 1776. That he was out with deponent in present of the Tours in the upper part of the Hunterdon before the militia was called out by the United States, that in 1776 when the militia was first called to go out in the service of the United States the said Ramsey was one of the company that volunteered under William Hazlell, Captain, and deponent as Lieutenant and was down
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to Amboy and on to Staten Island and served a month. After that he again volunteered and served out in the company under David Trazer, Captain and deponent Lieutenant in the four months served on "flag camp"- that he was with them at the Battle of Long Island and stated that tour of duty was over that, that after that when the deponent relieved from New York with authority from General Walkington to raise a company of 100 men to scout the country and give him a formation of the movements of the British and Tories. Deponent raised that company and Ramsey volunteered and joined deponent's company and continued to do duty in that company to the end of the war.- That they were out with the common militia on almost all occasions when the militia were called out on general alarms, and on other occasions, deponent now recollects he said Ramsey's leaving at times as declared from going with the company except the time he was taken sick and sent home previous to the battle of Monmouth- and from deponent's own knowledge of his services, he is satisfied that he served much more than to years.

Swon and subscribed
Aug 15, 1832 before

[Signatures]
George Rea
David Schamp
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The John F. Clark, a clergyman now residing in Flemington in the County of Hunterdon and David Schamp residing in Readingtown in said county hereby certify, that we are acquainted with Joseph Ramsey who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be eighty-five years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a solider of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinon. 

Swon and subscribed in open court-
this 16 August 1832-

[Signatures]
George Rea
John F Clark
David Schamp

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after pulling the interrogatories presented by the war department, that Joseph Ramsey the above named appellant to as a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states- and the court further asserts that it appears to them that John F. Clerk who has signed the foregoing certificate as a clergyman, resident in Flemington in the township, of character, and David Schamp who has signed the same is a resident in the said township of Readingtown, and is a credible person and his statement is entitled to credit-
Done in open court, August 18, 1832

[Signatures]
Benjamin Egbert
John Barton
Jon Thompson
Richard Core

State of New Jersey Hunterdon County SS:
I, Isaac G. Tarley, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Hunterdon, DO hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original two recordings of the said court in the matter of applicant Joseph Ramsey for a pension and that Benjamin Egbert, George Rea, John Barton, John Thomspon, and Richard Core, whose names are subscribed to the altercation of the foregoing
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declaration and affidavit and to the certificate of the Court are respectively Judges of the said court, duly commissioned and sworn to all, whose official acts full faith and credit is due. 
In testimony whereof I have hereuntoset my hand and affixed the seal of said court at Flemington this 18 day of August A.D. 1832.

[Signature]
Isaac G. Farlee, Clerk.

State of New Jersey Hunterdon County SS:
I, Benjamin Egbert, one of the Judges of the court of Common pleas of the county of Hunterdon in whose presence - John F. the clergyman and Andrew Brey and David Schamp the witnesses, whose certificate of affidavits on the foregoing application of Joseph Ramsey- as above annexed- were respectively sworn and examined. I do hereby certify that the said John F. Clark is a stated and ordained clergyman, stated residency at  Flemington, and that Andrew Brey and David Schamp the witness reside in the county of Hunterdon and are credible persons to whose altercations and evidence full faith and credit is due.
Sworn under my hand this year 1833.

[Signature]
Benjamin Egbert
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Application of Joseph Ramsey

17046

Where answer to.
N. Saxton, Flemington NJ
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New Jersey Hunterdon County ss:
On this 17th day of June in the year of our Lord 1833, before one George Henry- one of the judges of the court of common pleas of the county of Hunterdon, personally appeared forth Ramsey, the applicant in the preceeding documents mentioned, who been duly sworn according to law, maketh this further declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7 1832. That this deponent  saith that by reason of old age and consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service level according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the period mentioned below, and in the following grades- for two years and upwards- as a private soldier- and for such service I claim a pension-

The deponent further saith- that when he first went out in the service of the United States, the Regiment was requested to frequent two companies which would have been done by drafting, but where the Regiment met, enough men and officers toured out voluntarily to make up the number the Regiment was requested to furnish and they did not make a draft- I went for myself and not as a substitute- at this time and also which I was in the five months service- afterwards besides being out for myself, I was on some occasions for David Cole, the man with whom I lived when at home but how many times I can't or how long I was out as substitute for him I cannot remember - I never received any written discharge on any area from that. I remember we were always discharged verbally- I don't recollect what general was with us or if any, at Amboy- I recollect General Dickinson of New Jersey being with us along the Raritan- General Heard was with us at Elizabeth Town- I recollect General Washington well I was personally known to him, I challenged him as a sentinel, and I was after sent out by him to reconnorder.- I think General Green was with us at the Battle of the White Plains- but cannot be certain- I recollect seeing General Lee at the Battle of Monmouth. I knew him- some of the Generals I did not know.- General Lord Sterling
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was at the battle of Springfield- I cannot recollect to state particularly what officers was with us on all occasions.

Sworn and subscribed
this 17th day of June 1833
before me-

[Signatures]
George Henry
Joseph Ramsey

State of New Jersey Hunterdon County SS:
I, Isaac G. Farlee, Clerk of the County of Hunterdon do hereby certify- that the foregoing contains the original precedings in the said court in the matter of [the] application Joseph Ramsey for a pension, and that- Benjamin Egbert, George Rea, John Barton, John Thompson, Richard Core, and George Henry before whom the declaration and affidavits hereunto annexed were to him and made are respectively Judges of the court of common pleas of the County of Hunterdon duly commissioned and sworn to all whom official acts full faith and credit is due.

In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said court, at Flemington this 31 day of Aug. A.D. 1833

Farlee, Clerk
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4755
Rev War

INVALID.

File No. No.  4755
Joseph Ramsey
Print Rev War

Act: June 7"  1832

Index: Vol: M,  Page 308

[Arrangement of 1870]
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[First Page]
Letter to Hon. W. Halsted, Feb 21 1842

" " " J. W. Miller [January] 18 1843

" " "  " "  " 20 "

[Second Page]
No 17056
New Jersey
Revol.

Joseph Ramsey's
Suspended

Letter to.

N. Saxton Esq.
October 30 1833
to Jaime 9 Dec 1836
do to H. M. Kline February 4th 1842

Act 7 June 1832
Page 25

32,020
New Jersey
Joseph Ramsey

A.D. Act 7th June 1832
Page 26

Joseph Ramsey
N.J. ad 1832

Hon. Loren P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pension
Washington D.C.
Page 27

[Faint handwriting, mostly illegible]

Kline, Miller January 19th 1855

Dear Sir,

I last evening returned from Trenton and I saw Mr. Allison. I stated to him I had not read his letter. His letter [illegible] I was at Trenton. He states that there is not more than one Revolution Soldier name recorded there in a hundred. What is recorded there is those that did not get their pay when discharged and I am to say that David Schamp paid his soldiers. I will [illegible] and the affidavits of the tow [illegible] next week if the weather and roads are fit.

From yours respectfully,
Milller Kline

N [illegible] you will [illegible]
A [illegible] letter
to Chris C. Tucker, Esq.
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STATE OF NEW JERSEY,
DEPARTMENT OF STATE,
Trenton, Jan 16 1855

Miller Kline

Sir- I received your letter complaining that I had not answered a previous one, containing a dollar and asking for a certificate of the revolutionary service of JOseph Ramsey- I certainly did answer your first letter very soon after I received it, and regret that you did not receive it- I could not find his name at all, upon the revolutionary papers, after diligent search for it, and so informed you.

Respectfully,
Theo S. Allison
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I cannot perceive why Capt. Schamp was not entitled to the full pension he drew and why Ramsey who served under him the whole war, is not entitled to a full pension. 

For about the time or after the Battle of Long Island and White Plains Washington complained to congress of the want of cavalry to serve as [illegible] and he also complained for want of more men to supply the placed of the protected where tours of service were by Jersey and congress passed a resolution to give him power to raise troops and appoint and commission officers under the rank of Brigadier Generals- he did raise infantry, sir spark's life of Washington's [illegible], and this troop of cavalry in the County, Col. Schamp had the commission of Captain he was a spirited active man and an excellent partizan officer and Ramsey was one of his men and when Washington left New Jersey he left his troops stationed in the upper part of this county (to Lee town, where he and they resided), charged with military duty, toured to watch the Tories, of whoin there were many in that section of the country, that committed great depradation on the property of the whigs they (Schamp's troop) were ordered to watch their movements, give information of them, and capture them when the zoned fall in with them- they did their duty and gave purely to his [illegible] this Schamp's troop got in formation of a band of these Tories that had made up to go off in a body and join the British in New Brunswick or Staten Island- they pursued them, file in with them at night and captured a number in the woods near Readington meeting house Ramsey was with the troop
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[left margin note]
I knew Joseph Romney from 1795 to his death, [illegible] lived on an adjoining 
farm & must be humbled to say in [illegible] memory that no man ever lived
or died in this county with a fairer reputation as a patriot & friend to his country
& a sterling honest upright man - N. [illegible]
[main body]
that night they continued to perform that kind
[crossed out] of service to which they were assigned by [illegible]
Co to the close of the war & I cannot perceive
why when they performed a military
duty to which they were assigned they are not entitled
to a pension, as well tho that was performed
singly or by 5's or 10 or 20's together or whether
they did it by 500's or 1000 together-- they
did the duly & all the old people in this section
of County who are old enough to remember do remember the [illegible] of the country at that
day, & the reports of the mischief done by Moody's
Men, Voight's men & others, and bands of Tories in
the upper part of this county & lower part of
of Sussex & are satisfied that they did informant
service in the country I was [illegible]
in the revolution & remember [crossed out] these stories [crossed out] will. I
had reason to remember my fathers house was robbed
by the Tories one night while he was out with
the army. When he came home he built a
cave in a thick secluded spot in the wood,
when he carried [illegible] & provisions and very light things that was 
of value & would be readily carried off and
I followed my mothers [illegible]
when she went to the cave to get out provisions from
things she wanted to [illegible] & when done with it
to carry it back to this place of concealment
I do think that Joseph Ramsey ought to have
had his pension for all he applied.
J.W. Miller
very respectfully yr Obed as
N. Lastone
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State of New Jersey | 
County of Hunterdon ⎬ SS:
On this first day of April 1857,
before me, a Justice of the Peace, in and for said
County, personally appeared John Ramsey and
Sarah Kline, who being duly sworn according to
law, depose and say that they are the only
children of Joseph Ramsey, who was a Revolutionary
pensioner under the Act of 7th June
1832 at the rate of $20 per annum, and that their
mother, Rachel Ramsey, died on 26th of January 1806
Now the object of this Declaration is to assist
a claim for increase of Pension from $20 per
annum to $96 per annum, the said Joseph Ramsey 
(having served more than two years in the War
the Revolution) from March 4th 1831 to the day of
his death, which took place on the 13th of July 1834,
The service for which they claim increase of pension
was rendered by the said Joseph Ramsey in
the Company commanded by Capt Schamp, which
service is proved by the affidavit of Capt. Schamp
himself, now on file with the papers in the Pension
office
Sworn to and subscribed | John Ramsey
the day and year above written | Sarah Kline

Robert Finley
Justice of the Peace.
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State of New Jersey | 
County of Hunterdon | SS:
This certifies that satisfactory
proof has been made before me, President Judge
of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said county,
that John Ramsey and Sarah Kline are the
only surviving children of Joseph Ramsey, deceased,
who was a Revolutionary pensioner at the
rate of twenty dollars per annum - that the
said Joseph Ramsey died on the 13th day of
July 1834, his wife, the mother of the aforesaid
John Ramsey and Sarah Kline, having died
on the 26th day of January 1806. - And further, that the
above named John Ramsey and Sarah
Kline are the only heirs of said Joseph Ramsey,
deceased.
Given under my hand this 2d day of
April - 1851.
Samuel Hill
President Judge of Court of Common
Pleas of Hunterdon County
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State of New Jersey | 
Hunterdon County ss | 
William Emery Clerk of the court
of Common pleas in and for said County of Hunterdon
Do hereby certify that Robert [illegible]
the foregoing affidavit was taken is an acting Justice
of the peace in and for said County duly authorized to take
the same and that full faith and credit are due [illegible]
his act as such Justice and that his to the 
same is genuine [illegible]
[illegible]
who subscribed [illegible]
[illegible]
[illegible]
that I am well acquainted with his hand [illegible]
[illegible]
In witness whereof I have [illegible]
[illegible] have and affixed the Seal of the said
Court at [illegible] this record
[illegible]
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Joseph Ramsey
N.J. D 1832

[crossed out]
Charles C Tucker
Present
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Washington D.C. Dec 2. 1854
Hon Loren P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions

Sir
I send herewith a
Power of Atty from Sarah Kline who has made an
application for an increase of the pension received by
her father Joseph Ramsey late a pensioner under the
Act of 1832 on the New Jersey roll.
In the letter to your office to A.M. Gangemer Esq
dated Nov 13, 1851, it is stated that David Schamp under
whom he (Ramsey) claimed to have rendered all his
service except that for 6 months was never actually a
Captain in the service of the United States a of N Jersey
and the service of the commanding officer being taken
away that of the private necessarily falls with it.
I think you will find on examination that this
is an error, David Schamp the Captain referred to was a
pensioner on the N. J roll at $480 per year for services as a
Capt of N.J. Mil. and his widow also received a pension
A reexamination of the claim is respectfully
requested.
Very respectfully
Your Obt Sert
Chas. C. Tucker
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Senate Chanler
May 10 / 43
James L Edwards
Sir
can you give me any
information relative to the matter
of the enclosed letter
Mr Halsted seems to have lost
sight of the papers & [illegible] they
have been sent to your office
please reference me as to the
situation of the claim &c &c
Allow me again, to call
your attention to a letter of
Mr  Elmer which I had the
[illegible] of [illegible] you a few
days since.
Yours very Respectfully
M Miller
Page 37

Senate Chander
Feb 24 1843
J L Edwards
Dear Sir
I enclose you your
additional papers &c relative
to the pension application
of the widow of Joseph Ramsey
If the evidence is sufficient
your attention to the matter
will much oblige
Yours my Respects
M Miller
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Washington D. C. Feb. 16. 1855
Hon Loren P Walde
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir
Enclosed please
find evidence for the Claim for increase of the
pension of Joseph Ramsey dec late a pensioner
under the act of June 7, 1832 on the New Jersey
will, as required by your letter of Dec 8. 1854
The widow of the soldier was married to him
in 1807 and died in 1847. She was therefore not
entitled to a pension,
Very respectfully
Your Obt Sert
Chas. C. Tucker.-
Page 39

Kinesville Febry 20 1843
Sir
I have the letters of yours and &
J L Edwards, with I return you and in your
Letter Cornel V. Saxton, stating to you respecting
the Pension of my father in law Joseph Ramsey who
was so much deserving of Pension wish is seal
by all the old people, whom are gone and
still see by those few that is living as you
will see by Cornel Saxton address to you
there was so many a man proven pension some
years Back that did not deserve it and further
Ramsey who was so just deserving not to get
he shout hard of it in his life time, he spoke
of it just before his death and asked me if
there was any prospect of it as he had suffered
so much in the War, I told him I thought
it was, I wish you to Examine the Evidence
of Cornel Schamp and see if that was not military duty
according to Cornel Saxton Address to you
& wish you to due was you can in-
Regard of obtaining so just a pension.
and was Pursuant you think would be rite
it shall be allowed to satisfy you by seeing
to this business, Please to insure me as [crossed out]
soon as convenient, was can be due
and how it stand,-------
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I have taken all the pains I could to make
it Strate and Cornel Saxton, the old
lady is very old and feeble
I have honor to be
Very Respectfully
your Obd Ser
Henry M. Kline

Hon. J.W. Miller
Senate U. States
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Hon. J.W. Miller
Senate US
Page 42

Pension Office
January 18, 1840,
Sir,
I have the honor to return you the letter 
of Mr Kline in relation to the claim of
Joseph Ramsay deceased and in reply to state
that the only service duly set forth and established 
in the papers is one month under Captain
Alyears and 5 months under Captain Frazer
the service under Capt David Schamp was
not a military service in an embodied and
organized corps.  Upon the presentation of the
claim of  [crossed out] David Schamps widow it is very clear that instead  
of a pension of $480 per annum as a
Captain which was improperly and unadvisedly 
allowed him, he was entitled to 6
months only as Lieutenant in 1776. If the
claimant left a widow the day of his death
and her name should be certified by the
Court.
I have the honor to be
Very Respectfully
Your Obed Ser
J L Edwards

Hon. Jacob W. Miller
Senate U. States
Page 43

April 9 - 1857

Claim of the heirs
of Joseph Ramsey
Cap Liplett
A.M. Gangemer, Atty
Present.
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Washington City
April 8, 1857
Sir,
I herewith transmit the claim of the
heirs of Joseph Ramsey, deceased, for increase
of Pension from 4th March 1831 to the time of
his death, and respectfully ask that the papers
may be re-examined, as it is believed there is
sufficient evidence on file in the Pension Office
to cause the claim to be allowed
Yours truly
A.M. Gangemer

Hon. J.E. Heath
Commissioner of Pensions
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Cap Triplett

A Gangemer, Atty
Present.
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Washington City DC
August 8, 1857
Sir
Your letter of 27 June, acknowledges
receipt of the application of the children of
Joseph Ramsey for increase of pension,
and you and that his widow would be entitled
to any arrearages of pension due him.
I enclose herewith evidence providing that the
widow of Joseph Ramsey died in the 13th
of February 1847.
Yours truly
A M Gangewer

Hon I E Heath
Com of Pensions
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Petition of
Jane Ramsey for
a Pension

Hon JW. Millin
[illegible]
Page 48

To the Honorable the Secretary of War
of the United States
The Petition of Jane Ranney of the Township 
of Clinton in the County of Hunterdon
and State of New Jersey respectfully [illegible]
that your Petitioner is the widow of Joseph
Ramsey late of the Township of Readington
in said County deceased - that the said Joseph
Ramsey and your Petitioner were married
according to the laws of New Jersey by [crossed out]
Holloway W. Hunt of Hunterdon C. N. Jersey
[crossed out] minister of the gospel.
that the said Joseph Ramsey in his life time
applied to the war department for a pension
for his services as a soldier in the revolutionary
War, & your petitioner has been informed
that she as his widow is entitled to a pension
from the United States Government. That the
proof of the service of the said Joseph Ramsey
in the revolutionary war will be found
accompanying his application for a
Pension on file in the Department.
That the said Joseph Ramsey died on the
thirteenth day of July in the year of our
Lord Eighteen hundred & thirty four - - -
your Petitioner therefore prays that the
Government will please to allow her
such Pension as she is entitled to by law
& your Petitioner as in duly bound 
Witness present at the | her
Signature by Jane Ramsey | Jane X Ramsey
by making her mark | mark
Henry Allen
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State of New Jeney Hunterdon County ss
Jane Ramsey widow of Joseph Ramsey Dcd
the within Petitioner, being duly sworn according 
to law on her Oath with that the
facts and allegations set forth & Contained
in the within Petition are true & further saith
not.
Sworn this 14th day of February
A.D. 1843. before me | her
Robert Foster | Jane X Ramsey
one of the Judges of the Court | mark
of common pleas of the County | 
of Hunterdon N. J. | 

State of New Jersey Hunterdon County ss:  I Robert
Foster one of the Judges of the court of common
pleas of the County of Hunterdon in the State of
New Jersey do hereby certify that I am acquainted 
with Jane Ramsey the widow of Joseph Ramsey
late of the Township of Readingtown in said
County deceased  the within Petitioner, & whose
examination I have taken as above - that
she is a very aged person & infirm & on that
account could not be brought into court to
make her deposition and I attended her at her
lodgings & there took her examination above
set forth
February 14 1843
Robert Foster
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To all to whom these presents shall come I
Holloway W. Hunt a stated & ordered Minister
of the Gospel of the Presbyterian denomination
Do hereby certify that I married Joseph Ramsay 
of the Township of Readingtown in the
County of Hunterdon to Jane Before the said
Joseph Ramsay I have understood has been
dead some years, and his widow Jane
Ramsey is still living. - the record of Marriages, 
which I kept myself at that time
has been destroyed so that I have nothing
in my possession by which I can [illegible]
the date.  It was many years ago-- [illegible]
Given under my hand February 14. 1843
Holloway W. Hunt, senior
Hunterdon County N. Jersey
State of New Jersey | 
Hunterdon County | ss
I  Peter J Clark Clerk of
the said County of Hunterdon Do
hereby certify, that Robert Foster
Esq whose name is subscribed to
the foregoing deposition of Jane
Ramsey & certificate respecting it, [illegible]
of the Judges of the court of Common
pleas of the County of Hunterdon
duly commissioned and sworn to all whose
official acts full faith and credit is due
Given under my hand & the seal of the said court
at Flemington this 17th day of February in the
year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred
& forty three
Peter I Clark Clk
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State of New Jersey
Hunterdon County, ss
On the 29th May January 1866 before
[illegible] for the County and State
[illegible] Harmon Dilts aged 73 years
resident of said County and State and personally known
[illegible] a credible witness who being duly sworn and
according to law declares that he was personally acquainted
with [illegible] the Ramsey family a Revolutionary [illegible]
residing in Hunterdon County on the 13 day of July [illegible]
having surviving under who has since died
but two children who are still living in Hunterdon
County [illegible] John Ramsey and
Sarah Khine and he further states that [illegible]
[illegible] Joseph Ramsey [illegible]
[illegible]
Witness Present | his
Henry S. Trimmer | Harmon X Ditts
 | Mark
Sworn to and subscribed before me the [illegible]
[illegible] written and I certify [illegible]
in the Claim on account [illegible]
Henry S. Trimmer
Page 52

State of New Jersey | 
Hunterdon County ss | 
on the 29th day of January [illegible] before me
a Justice of the Peace for the County and State above
named personally appeared Henry Allen aged 72 years
resident of said County and State and personally known
to me is a credible witness who being duly sworn according
to law declare that he was personally acquainted
with Joseph Ramsey formerly a Revolutionary [illegible]
[illegible] Hunterdon County State of New Jersey [illegible]
[illegible] with his family [illegible] that
he died in Hunterdon County on the 13 day of July 1834
[illegible] a widow who has [illegible] died and
left two children who are still living in Hunterdon Co
[illegible] John Ramsey and Sarah Kline
[illegible] that [illegible]
[illegible]
witness present
Henry S. Triman | Henry Allen

Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year
[illegible] I certify that I am [illegible]
[illegible]
Henry S. Triman
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State of New Jersey | 
Hunterdon County ss |  It is hereby certified that satisfactory evidence
has been exhibited before me Charles Tomlinson Clerk of the
Court of Common pleas in and for said County by the testimony
of Harman Dills and Henry Allen who are residents of said
County and State aforesaid, and credible witness to prove that
Joseph Ramsey a Revolutionary pensioner died in Hunterdon
County State of New Jersey on the thirteenth day of July 1834
one thousand eight hundred and thirty four leaving a widow
who died in February 1847 and two children whose names are
John Ramsey and Sarah Kline both of whom are now living
and are the only surviving children of the said Joseph Ramsey
and that Henry S. Timmer Esqr. whose given signature
appears to the foregoing affidavit and before whom the 
same was taken is a Justice of the peace in and for said
County duly commissioned & sworn, and that full faith
and credit are due to all his official acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand and affixed the seal of
[seal with ribbon applied] said Court at Flemington this Twenty
ninth day of January in the year of
our Lord Eighteen hundred and fifty five
Chas Tomlinson Clerk
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The Secretary of War
Dear Sir
the enclosed papers
of Grace Sears to be placed on the
pension list have been set to the war
office some time since and the
services were admitted but the papers
we returned for further evidence of
a contract between him (Isaac Sears)
& Sheldon Sears for work & labour
performed by the said Sheldon for which
the said Isaac now owe him
which is set forth in the affidavit marked
"L" he has not been able until this
time to procure that evidence in consequence
of the absence of the witness, but has now
sent it with the papers to be entered
on the list - the old Gentleman
is very poor & unable support himself
& without a pension must necessarily
be supported by the Town if any [illegible]
should be required as to his indigence
or inability to support himself it can be
procured.
Yours Respectfully
B Bagley
Durham (Greene Co)
August 21. 1828
Page 55

Jan 31 1842
Klinesville
Jany 28 - | H Moline P. M.
free
Honor J. L. Edwards -
Comr of Pensions
Washington City
Page 56

Klinesville January 27. 1842
Honr J.L Edwards Comr of Penson
I wish to inform you that I was
with my Father in law Joseph Ramsey at
Flemington. Ware he mailed application for
a pension I believe the time was about
1830. the papers was drawn up by -
Nathaniel Saxton Esqr Flemington and
Returned back and requiring some alternation
which was done and Sent Back to --
Washington, and have not been allowed
as yet, therefore if your Honor plese send
the Papers back, Direct them to me as
Post Master Klinesville ---
from your Humble Servant
Henry M Kline
Page 57

Hon J. L Edwards Esq
Com of Penson
War department
Washington
D.C.

N.J.
Joseph Ramsay
Report to
Hon Wm Halsted
H.R.
Page 58

Flemington Feby 12 1842
Dr Sir
Some years ago I made application for
a Pension for Joseph Ramsey an elderly
citizen of this county for service in the
volutionary war. I have known him
personally for 8 or 9 years It was always
understood he had served in the war and
he always bore as fair a reputation as
any man of veracity with and honesty
as any man in the County & was most
respected by his neighbors for his integrity
& fair dealing I thought under the law
& the first instructions we had that his
application was sufficiently formal but
the commissioner M. Edward, I think
returned the papers to me with some furnished 
directions I took further examination
which I supposed embodied every thing required
though perhaps not in the order directed
I returned the papers some time after I
recd an answer respecting this & other applications. 
I was informed that his and
one or two others were "suspended" I never
received any further information.  The
old gentleman has since died & Henry M
Kline of Klinesville - who lately added
a letter to you, is his son in law & Executor
& desirous of having the matter settled &
requested me to address you on the subject
I do hope you will have the goodness to
have the matter looked into I am and
always have been impressed with a confident
belief that the old man was entitled
to a pension - he was first out if I recollect
in what was called the flying camp on four
months service before the Battle of Long
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Island after that he enlisted or entered into
a Troop of Cavalry raised by Capt. David
Schamp of this County at the request of
Genl Washington to serve as widely and
for the purpose of seeing this section
of New Jersey for the purpose of fishing
up information & watching the Tories
who at that time abounded in this
part of our state that Troop was or
that service for years more than sufficient
to entitle the applicant to a
pension - Capt. Schamp was a very
efficient officer & cited the part assigned
with good effect in which Ramsey precipated. 
Capt Schamp applied for a
pension and recd one of Captains pay
which he recd during his life, he I
think bore Testimony to Ramsay, services
as stated & you will find it among the
papers in the Case. It will confer a favor
on the family of a very worthy man
if you will have the goodness to take
the matter into consideration, and of
any thing more is really necessary return
the papers to Mr Klen at [illegible]
Hunterdon N.J. or to myself at Flemington
[illegible] with such instructions as you
may think proper. The old man died
several years ago the precise time of
hir death we must of course furnish evidence 
of. I am with great respect
Your Obed. Serv
Nathaniel Saxton

Hon Commissioner of
Pensions
Report to Hon. William Halsted,
H. Rep