Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 18731, for Isaac Palmatier, New York
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(3-1776)

Service
New York

Palmatier, Isaac
Nelly

Number
W. 18731

Contents
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Albany 3439
Nelly Palmatier dec'd 
widow of Isaac Palmatier
who died on the Feb 1832
of Schenectady Co in the State of N York
who was a private in the company commanded
by Captain White of the regt commanded
by Col Gordon NY in the N. Y. militia 
line for 2 years

Inscribed on the Roll of Albany 
at the rate of 80 Dollars - Cents per annum
to commence on the 4th day of March 1831 & to end
27 February 1837 Payable to Nelly Houghtaling
Hannah Vedder & Helen Maybee Children of dec'd

Certificate of Pension issued the 22 day of Sept
1840 and sent to G.F. Yates
Schenectady, NY

Arrears to the 27 Fb 1837 $478.90
Semi annual allowance ending

Revolutionary Claim, 
Act July 4, 1836
Section the 3

Recorded by D Brown Clerk 
Book C Vol 1 Page 125
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4977
Isaac Palmatier Soldier
Nelly Palmatier Widow

Nelly Houghtaling 
Hannah Vedder
Helen Maybee children

Applicants for pension due said Nelly Palmatier at time of her decease

under Act July 4 1836 

Nelly Palmatier died 27 Feb 1837- husband died 1832

Agent Giles F Yates Schenectady 

4977

Nelly Palmatier dec'd 
NY 
Act 4 July 36

mgod 29
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Declaration under act of 4 July 1836

State of New York
County of Schenectada} ss
The declaration of Helen Maybee of the town of Glenville in said County aged seventy years who being duly examined & sworn deposeth and saith that she is a daughter of Isaac & Nelly Palmatier deceased. That he mother the said Nelly Palmatier at the time of her death (which occurred on the 27th day of February 1837  was (as this deponent believed) entitled to a pension under the act of Congress passed July 4 1836. That the said Nelly Palmatier was duly married to the said Isaac Palmatier at Poughkeepsie N.Y. many years previous to the war of the Revolution  & that the marriage ceremony was performed by the Pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church at that place as this declarant has been frequently & credibly informed. That the said Nelly Palmatier previous to her said marriage resided in said town of Poughkeepsie and bore the maiden name of Van DeBogart. That after her said marriage they moved to the county of Albany where they remained until after the said war of the Revolution when they returned to Pouughkeepsie. And this deponent further declares that her father the said Isaac Palmatier was a soldier of the United States during said War of the Revolution & was frequently called into service with the Albany County militia to which he belonged and that while in said service he was taken a prisoner by the British, taken to Canada, and retained in imprisonment for more than Eighteen months, Declarant
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thinks for a period of nearly two years. That he was thus taken prisoner several years previous to the close of said War, and as this deponent has been informed in company with Lieutenant Bonter and a number of others the names of whom this Declarant cannot now remember. That this declarant cannot state under what office her father served but well knowns that he was frequently absent from home on military expeditions & from the commencement of the said War until the time of his capture as aforesaid. 
And this declarant further testifies that her father the said Isaac Palmatier departed this life five years previous & to the decease of her mother the said Nelly Palmatier remained the widow of the said Isaac until the said time of her decease. That Nelly Houghtaling of the town of - County of Steuben & state of New York, Hannah Vedder of the town of Jonston Cortland County in said State, and this declarant are the only surviving children the said Isaac and Nelly Palmatier the rest having long since departed this life to wit Maria, Helahantia, Sophia, Elizabeth, Katherine & Sarah. 
her
Helen x Maybee
mark

Subscribed & sworn this 31st day of January 
1840, before me & I certify that said Helen
Maybee is unable to write her own name owing to the want of education
S.W. Jones 
First Judge of said County
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State of New York
County of Schenectada} ss. 
John N. Vedder of the town of Truxton County of Cortland and State of New York aged 73 years being duly sworn deposeth and saith that on the 3rd day of May 1793 he was duly married to Hannah Palmatier a daughter of Isaac & Nelly Palmatier, the same persons referred to and described in the accompanying papers. That his said wife was the eighth daughter of said Isaac & Nelly Palmatier & was born on the 15th day of October 1779 or tow days previous to the Surrender of Burgoyne as is particularly set forth in the accompanying record, which is the family record of this Deponent & in his own hand writing. 
That Hannah Vedder referred to upon said record is the identical person above mentioned who is the wife of this Deponent & the eighth daughter of said Isaac & Nelly Palmatier. 
And this Deponent further saith that he has been frequently & credibly informed & verily believes that during the war of the Revolution and after the birth of said Hannah Palmatier (now Hannah Vedder) the said Isaac Palmatier was taken prisoner by the British and convoyed to Canada where he was retained in confinement for a period of nearly two years. And further that the said Isaac Palmatier at the time of his capture & imprisonment was a private in a company of Militia or New York State troops, but the particulars of
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his service therein this deponent cannot relate. 
And this deponent further saith that the said Isaac Palmatier departed this life about ten years ago having never obtained a pension and his widow the said Nelly Palmatier also departed this life on or about the 27th day of February 1837. She was about applying for a pension under the act of July 4 1836. And this deponent further saith that he has always understood that the said Isaac & Nelly Palmatier were marred by the Pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church at Poughkeepsie NY many years previous to the war of the Revolution but this deponent cannot give to the name of the clergyman who married them nor the precise date of their marriage. 
John N Vedder

On this 6th day of February 1840 personally appeared before me the undersigned John N. Vedder and made oath that the facts set forth in the above deposition by him subscribed are true & I certify that he is a credible witness. Note "militia" written on razure before execuation. 
Roswell Perry JP John N Vedder

Isaac Palmatier
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State of New York
County of Schenectada } 
James Barhyte of Saratoga Springs County of Saratoga & State of New York aged 78 years and upwards being duly sworn deposeth & saith that he was a soldier during the war of the Revolution and is now a pensioner of the United States under the act of June 7 1832. That this deponent was frequently out with scouting parties during said war in pursuit of tories and various other services. That during such expeditions he repeatedly met with Isaac Palmatier out on similar expeditions but with different parties he this deponent being with detachments under the Regiment of Col. Abraham Wemple Albany County and the said Isaac Palmatier with like detachment from the Regiment of Colonel Gordon from another section of said County of Albany and near the boundary line of Tryon County. This Deponent cannot testify to the particulars

for said County duly commissioned & sworn & I further certify that the signatures of said
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of said Isaac Palmatier's services having never served in company with him but well known that he did serve as herein before related and was frequently out in such expeditions. This deponent also further testifies that said Isaac Palmatier during said war was taken prisoner by the British and convoyed to Canada where he was detained in imprisonment for a long time in company in with a number of others both privates & officers from the Regiment to which he belonged. This deponent was not present at the time of their capture and has no positive knowledge of their imprisonment as above related but he has been repeatedly & credibly informed both at the time thereof and since that thing was thus taken & retained as prisoner & he has no doubt of the fact. 
James Barhyte

Subscribed & sworn this 17th day of January 1840
& I certify that said James Barhyte is a credible witness
Perry JP

Isaac Palmatier
Palmatier
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State of New York
County of Schenectada 
Clerks Office} ss
I Theodoric R. Van Ingen Deputy Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Samuel W. Jones before whom the foregoing declaration of Helen Maybee purports to have been sworn was at the time thereof first Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in & for said County duly commissioned & sworn and that Roswell Perry, before whom the accompanying deposition of John N. Vedder & James Barhyte purport to have been taken was at the respective dates thereof a Justice of the Peace in & for said County duly commissioned & sworn & I further certify that the signatures of said Samuel W. Jones & Roswell Perry to said Declaration & Deposition are genuine. 
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and affix my official seal this 13th day of February 1840
T. R. Van Ingen 
Depute Clerk
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State of New York
County of Schenectady} ss
I Giles F. Yates Surrogate of said County do hereby certify that full and satisfactory evidence has been subscribed me in my Surrogates Court that Nelly Palmatier widow of Isaac Palmatier depose and this life on the 27th day of February 1837 leaving three children her surviving to wit Nelly Houghtaling of Steuben County in the State of New York, Hannah Vedder of Truxton Cortland County in said State, and Helen Maybee of Glenville, Schenectady County in said State. And that said Nelly Palmatier is the same person on whose account application is about to be made for a pension under the Act of Congress passed July 11, 1836. 
Witness my hand and official 
seal this 6th day of February 
In the year of our Lord One
thousand Eight hundred & 
forty. 
G.F. Yates
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John N Vedder born
January 29 1767
Hannah Vedder October
the 15 1777
Nicolas Vedder Sep
the 6 1796
Isaac Vedder June
the 18 1798
Henry Vedder Ma
the 22 1802
Nelle Vedder Jan
the 1808
Abraham Vedder
Jan the 9 1812
John Vedder June 
1812

Nancy A Vedder
1817 April 25
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Dear Sir
I received your letter yesterday & hasten to reply that I have carefully examined the records of the church but find no record of the marriage of Isaac Palmatier & Nelly. 
The earliest date of a marriage record which I can find is January 1765. Before this there was either no record kept or it is now lost. 
The churches of Pokeepsie and Fishkill were before this period united and it is possible that
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on. The record of it may have been made at Fishkill. This of course you can readily ascertain by writing to the Rev. Francis L. Kip the present pastor of that church. 
Yours A M Mann
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County of Dutchess

I A.M. Mann do hereby certify that I am pastor of the Ref. D Church of Pokeepsie Dutchess Co N.Y. and that I hold the records of said church. 
That I have examined said records in order to find an amount of the marriage of Isaac Palmatier and 
which purports to have occurred at Pokeepsie ten or fifteen years previous to the war of the Revolution but that I find no account of said marriage upon said records nor can I satisfactorily account for the omission. 
A.M. Mann
Subscribed & sworn this 21st day of January 1840
before me Danl Hubbard Justice of the Peace
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State of New York

Mr Giles F Yates
Schenectada
N.Y.

[stamped] Poughkeepsie
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Pay roll of sundry officers, non commission'd officers & privates of the Regt of militia in the County of Albany lately commanded by Col Jacobus Can Schoonhooven who were prisoners in Canada during the late war. 

Names & Rank
James Gordon Lt Colonel 
James Gordon Private
Isaac Palmatier do 

When taken
1780 Oct 17
"    "  17
"  "   17

When returned
1782
Nov 19
Dec 10
" 6

Time 
Months
25
25
25
Days
3
24
20

Dollars month
60
6 2/3
"

Rations
No. of
3012
935
"

Price 
10d
"
"

Amount of Rations 
125
10
"

Amount of pay & Rations
727 18
68 16
68 8 10

State of New York
Outstanding office 
Albany Feby 5 1840 
I hereby certify the above to be a true extract from Book A of Audited Accounts taken and noting in this office
Bates Cooke
Comtroller
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Supplemental 
Declaration under act of 4 July 1836

State of New York
County of Schenectady ss
On this 17th day of June 1840 personally appeared before the Court of Common Pleas of the said County of Schenectady now sitting Helen Maybee of the town of Glenville in said County aged seventy years who being duly examined and sworn deposeth and saith that she is a daughter of Isaac & Nelly Palmatier deceased.
That her mother the said Nelly Palmatier at the time of her death (which occurred on the 27th day of February 1837) was (as this deponent believes) entitled to a pension under the act of Congress passed July 4 1836. 
That he said Nelly Palmatier at Poughkeepsie N.Y. many years previous to the war of the Revolution & that the marriage ceremony was performed by the Pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church at that place, as this Declarant is unable to state the precise time when said marriage occurred but believes it was in the year 1760. That the said Nelly Palmatier previous to her said marriage resided in Poughkeepsie, & bore the maiden name of Van DeBogart.. That after her said marriage they moved to the County of Albany where they remained until after the said war of the Revolution when they returned to Poughkeepsie. And this Deponent further declares that her father the said Isaac Palmatier was a soldier of the United State during said War of the Revolution and was frequently called into service with the Albany County militia to which he belonged, and that while in said service he was taken a prisoner by the British, convoyed to Canada and retained in imprisonment for more than Eighteen months. Declarant thinks for a period of two years. That he was thus taken prisoner several years previous to the close of said war and as this declarant has been informed in company with Lieutenant Ponter and a number of others the names of whom
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this Declarant cannot now remember. That this Declarant cannot state under which officers her father served, but well knows that he was frequently absent from home upon military expeditions from the commencement of the said war until the time of his capture as aforesaid. And this declarant further testified that her father the said Isaac Palmatier departed this life five years previous to the decade of her mother as aforesaid, and that her mother the said Nelly Palmatier remained the widow of the said Isaac unto the said time of her decease to wich, the 27 day of February 1837 aforesaid. That Nelly Houghtaling of the town of ______ County of Steuben and State of New York, Hannah Tedder of the town of Truxton, Courtland County in said State and this Declarant are the only surviving children of the said Isaac & Nelly Palmatier, the remainder having long since departed this life to [illegible] Maria, Helahantia, Sophia, Elizabeth, Catherine, and Sarah.
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written before me in open Court.}
Helen [X "her mark"] Maybee
Arth." Campbell. Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the motion that Helen Maybee is a daughter of Isaac Palmatier deceased, that said Isaac Palmatier was a soldier of the Revolution, and that his widow Nelly Palmatier departed this life as stated in the above declaration & further that all the facts set forth in said declaration are true.

I Arth." Campbell - Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in & for said County of Schenectady do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of a Nelly Houghtaling, Hannah Tedder & Helen Maybee for a pension. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & Seal of Office this 17th day of June 1840-.
Arth." Campbell. Clerk [last line illegible]
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State of New York, County of Schenectady}
John I Schermerhorn of the City of Schenectady in said County aged 76 years being duly sworn deposeth and saith that during the war of the Revolution he was intimately acquainted with Isaac & Nelly Palmatier the same persons refered to & described in the accompanying papers. That said, Isaac hired a farm belonging to the uncle of this Deponent & lived thereon with his family, & the Deponent frequently visited him during his residence there. That said Isaac & Nelly were at that time unequivocally reputed to be husband & wife. That they had a large family of children, two or three of them having been born during their residence at the place aforesaid. That this Deponent well remembers the birth of their daughters Hannah and Helahantia, the said Hannah being the same person who is now the wife of John N Tedder of Truxton N.Y. and whose birth is recorded upon an accompanying paper. That this Deponent has been frequently and credibly informed and is well assured of the truth of the Statement that said Isaac Palmatier was taken prisoner, conveyed to Canada, and retained in imprisonment for two years. deponent knows that said Isaac was absent from his family for the time above mentioned, and it was well known

[in left side margin of page - "Palmatier"]
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that he was a prisoner in Canada, having been taken with a number of others, both privates & officers while on duty, and that said capture occurred several years previous to the date of the Revolutionary War and during said war. This Deponent has also been informed & believes that said Isaac & Nelly Palmatier was married several years previous & said man War in Poughkeepsie N.Y. and that they moved to Schenectady with their family near the commencement of said War, and further that said Nelly departed this life three or four years ago, being at the time of her death more than an hundred years of age.
Subscribed & sworn this 12 day of June 1840. I certify that said John J. Schermerhorn is a credible witness, Rywell Perry J. O.}
[signed] John J Schermerhorn
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State of New York, County of Schenectady}
I Joseph DeGolier of the town of Broadalbin, Fulton county N.Y. aged 78 years and upwards being duly sworn deposeth & saith that he is now a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress dated 7 June 1832. That during the war of the Revolution he was well acquainted with Isaac Palmatier and Nelly his wife the same persons refered to & described in the accompanying papers. That Deponent was acquainted with said Isaac & Nelly at the commencement of said war: they then lived together as husband & wife and were universally refered as such, having then a large family of children two or three of whom were older than this Deponent. Deponent is sure that two of them were older to wit one Polly or Maria & Nelly Palmatier. That during the year 1777 (the same year that Burgoyn was taken) said Isaac served with a company of Batteaumen at Saratoga & elsewhere. Deponent is unable to say under what officers said Palmatier served but knows that he did serve for the qreater part on the whole of said year with said company of batteaumen. That said Isaac Palmatier was afterwards duly enrolled in a company of militia
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belonging to the County of Albany (now Schenectady) & that he served at various times pursuant to drafts but Deponent is unable to relate the particulars of his said service not having served in company with him. Deponent will remember that said Isaac Palmatier was taken prisoner by the British & conveyed to Canada when he was retained as a prisoner for a term of at least two years. Deponent did not witness his capture but well knew that he was thus taken and that he was absent from his family for the term above specified that it was then a current & notorious report that he was a prisoner of the British as above stated & further that said Palmatier was then taken prisoner in the fall of the year 1780 if Deponents recollection serves him right. deponents acquaintance with said Isaac & Nelly Palmatier continues from the time of said war until the day of their respective deaths. Said Isaac having departed this life some ten or twelve years ago & his widow as Deponent thinks about three years ago having attained an extreme old age, & leaving a number of children her [illegible] to wich Nancy Vedder the wife of John Vedder of Truxton N.Y. Helen Maybee of Glenville N.Y. and Nelly Houghtaling now residing in the County of Ontario N.Y. all of which Deponent is assured are true & correct.
Subscribed & sworn this 13 day of June 1840 before me & I certify that said Joseph DeGolier is a credible witness}
Joseph {X "his mark"] DeGolier
Arch" M Michael [illegible]
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State of New York, County of Schenectada} ss
I certify that the following is a true copy of the record of the Baptism of Helgonda (pronounced Helahantia) Palmatier a child of Isaac Palmatier and Nelly Van DeBogart as the same is contained in the Register of Baptisms solemnized in the Reformed Dutch Church of Schenectada, by the Rev'd. Parent Vrooman
at the time thereof, pastor of said Church, viz:
1775 Jany 12. "Isaac Palmantier, Neiltye Van Den Bogaard] Helgonda"
From which it appears that said Helahantia Palmatier above named child of said Isaac Palmatier and Nelly Van DeBogart was baptised according to the rites of said church, by the said pastor on the twelfth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy five.
[signed] Jacob Van Vechten
I, Jacob Van Vechten above named depose & say that I hold the office of pastor of said church, and that the above is a true extract from the records of said church as certified by me and that the date of said baptisms is expressed in fair legible characters
[signed] Jacob Van Vechten
Subscribed & sworn this 26th day of June [illegible] before me
[signed] A. A. M[illegible] Justice of the Peace
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State of New York, County of Schenectady, Clerk's Office.} ss
I, Theodore R. Van Ingen Deputy Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Roswell Perry before whom the foregoing affidavit of John J. Schermerhorn purports to have been taken was at the time therof a Justice of the Peace in & for said county duly commissioned & sworn & that Richard McMichael before whom the accompanying deposition of Joseph DeGolyn purports to have been taken was at the time thereof a commissioner of Deeds in & for said County duly commissioned & sworn, & that Albert A Nedder before above the accompanying deposition of Rev' Jacob Van Veckten purports to have been taken was at the time through a Justice of the Peace in & for said county duly commissioned & sworn & further that the signatures of said Perry, McMichael & Vedder to these said depositions or affidavits are [illegible]
Witness my hand & official seal this 27th day of June 1840.
[signed] T R Van Ingen, Dep Clk
[picture of seal that depicts scales and says "Schenectady County Seal"]
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Dutchess County}
Francis N Kip being duly sworn doth depose & say that he is the Pastor of the First Reformed Dutch Church in Fishkill and that the marriage records in his possession (with the exception of those of his immediate predecessor & his own) merely extend from the year 1731 to 1755. That he has examined these records and has not found the marriage of Isaac Palmatier & Nelly Van de Bogart recorded therein. And that further record of the Church though diligent search has been made for them have not hitherto been found.
[signed] Francis N. Kip
Sworn before me this 19th day of June in the year 1840 [signed] Jos. I Jackson Dist Judge for Dutchess County
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May 16, 1935.

Jessie C. Palmetier
125 East 11th Avenue
Denver, Colorado.

BA-J/ILL
Isaac Palmatier
w. 18731

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Isaac H. Palmetier who served in Captain Swarthout's New York company, and whose family was of Poughkeepsie, New York, and whose wife was Sarah.

Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims for pension and bounty land which have been made to the United States based upon service in that war.

There is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service of an Isaac H. Palmetier, under any spelling of that surname. The Isaac Palmatier who rendered the service cited by you was ot identical with the Isaac whose family you describe. The claim has been found of one Isaaac Palmatier of Poughkeepsie, New York. His record is given herein as sown in pension claim, W. 18731, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War, as it may interest you.

Isaac Palmatier served as private in the Albany County, New York militia, was called out many times, and at one time was in the bateau service; while on duty at Ballston with the Albany County troops under Colonel Jacobus Van Schoonhoven, he was taken prisoner October 17, 1780, was carried to Canada and was returned December 6, 1782.

Isaac Palmatier married about the year 1760, Nelly Van DeBogart, who resided in Poughkeepsie, New York; their marriage was performed by the pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church of Poughkeepsie. After their marriage, they moved to Albany County, New York, remained until after the Revolutionary War, then returned to Poughkeepsie.
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Isaac Palmatier died about February 1832. His widow, Nelly Palmatier, died February 27, 1837; she did not remarry.

The soldier and his wife, Nelly, reared a large family of children; a copy of the baptism of one daughter, from the records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Schenectady, New York, shows- Jany. 12-1775-Helgonda (pronounced Helahantia) Palmatier a child of Isaac Palmatier and Nelly Van DeBogart". Other names of their children were given as Nelly, Hannah, Helen, Maria, Sophia, Elizabeth, Catherine, and Sarah.

In 1840, Helen Maybee, aged seventy years, and a resident of Glenville, Schenectady County, New York, applied for pension which was due on account of the service of her father, Isaac Palmatier, in the Revolutionary War; she applied in behalf of herself, Nelly Houghtaling of Steuben County, New York, and Hannah Vedder, wife of John N. Vedder, of Truxton, Cortland County, New York, the only surviving children of the soldier. The claim was allowed.

In 1840, John N. Vedder stated that he married Hannah Palmatier, the daughter of Isaac and Nelly Palmatier, May 3, 1793, and that his wife was the eighth daughter, born October 15, 1777. The following data are shown (written by John N. Vedder)
John N. Vedder born January 29, 1767.
Hannah Vedder born October 15, 1777.
Nicholas Vedder born September 6, 1796.
Isaac Vedder born June 18, 1798.
Henry Vedder born May 28, 1802.
Nelle Vedder born J (illegible) 180-
Abraham Vedder born January 9, 1812
John Vedder born June 15, 1812.

There are no further data relative to any of the above noted persons in this pension claim.

Very truly yours,
[not signed]
A. D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

2.
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Rev WIDOW, &c.
File No. 18.731
Nelly Palmatier
Wid. of
Isaac Palmatier
Priv. Rev. War
Act: July 4. 1836
Index:--Vol. M, Page 123
(Arrangement of 1870.)

1935 - May 16 - Hist. to Jessie C. Palmetier [initials] I. LL

1935. June 20, Jessie C. Palmetier inf. no further family data other than that sent her May 16. [initials] WCS

36. Apr. 31 Mrs. C. T. [illegible].metier inf. she was [illegible]rn May 16, 1935 full hist. of [illegible]ly Isaac Palmatier of vicinity Dutchess Co., N. Y. [initials] W. C. S.
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4977-NY

Act 4 July 36

[upside down writing that appears to be someone solving math problems on this paper - I believe not related to these documents]
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4977

Nelly Palmatier - deceased

Act July 4. 1836

Hun of ____ Ser papers

Widow died 27th Feb 1837
Married before Revolutionary War

Col Gordon, Capt White} New York Militia

Prisoner from 17 Oct 1780 tete
6 Dec 1782 -

Pension to commence 4th March 1831 & to terminate 27. Feb. 1837

Adu[illegible] Private 2 years $80

Giles F. Yates Esq.
Schenectady, N. Y.
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Payment to be made at Albany by T. W. Alcott, Esq. Pension Agent

Recorded in Book C. Vol. 1. page 125 by D. Brown, Clerk
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War Department
Revolutionary Claim

I certify that in conformity with the 3rd section of the law of the United States of the 4th July 1836, Nelly Palmentier, widow of Isaac Palmatier, who was a Private in the War of the revolution, was entitled to receive Eighty Dollars per annum, during her natural life, & that having died on 27th Feb. 1837, the amount due is payable to Nelly Houghtaling, Hannah Vedder, and Helen Maybee, children of said deceased, from the 4th March 1831 to the day of the death of said Nelly Palmatier.

given at the War Office of the United States this twenty second day of September one thousand eight hundred and forty.

Secretary of War

Ex: [illegible] countersigned

Commissioner of Pensions
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Hon I. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
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State of New York, County of Schenectady} ss
John J Schermerhorn being further duly sworn deposeth & saith that he well knew that Isaac Palmatier (the same person refered to & described in a former affidavit by him made) during the war of the Revolution & until the time of his capture & imprisonment (particularly described in said affidavit) was a private in a company of militia belonging to the Regiment of Col Van Schoonhoven but Deponent cannot remember his captains name. At the time of said capture this deponent was at Ballston on duty with a detachment of Militia from the Regiment of Col Abraham wimple and knew that said Palmatier was then & there taken prisoner altho he did not witness the capture. Deponent also knew that said Isaac Palmatier was then & there on duty with a detachment from said Regiment of Col Van Schoonhoven, and believes that such Col Gordon had command who was also taken prisoner with a number of the buck officers & privates. Deponent remembers that one Shew who belonged to the same detachment with Palmatier was killed by the enemy, and also one John Stow with Deponent saw said Shew lying dead upon the field of action a short time after he was killed. Deponent himself with the detachment to which he belonged came very near
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being captured at the same time, so that all the circumstances are fresh in his recollection as described in the forgoing & in his firm affidavits
Subscribed & from this 14 day of September 1840 & I certify that said John J Schermerhorn's a credible witness. [signed] Reginald Perry J.D.
[signed] John J Schermerhorn

State of New York, county of Schenectady, Clerks Office} ss
I Theodoric R. Van Ingen Deputy Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Roswell Perry before whom the above affidavit of John J Schermerhorn purports to have been sworn was at the time there of a Justice of the Peace in & for said County duly commissioned, sworn & that his signature thereto is genuine.

Witness my hand & official Seal this 14th day of September 1840.
[signed] T.R. Van Ingen Deputy Clerk
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Schenectady Sept 14. 1840

Sir,
Accompanying is a supplemental affidavit of John J Schermerhorn in support of the claim of Nelly Palmatier to pension under the Act of July 4. 1836. I should have caused all the Witnesses in this case to have been more explicit in their statements had I not supposed that the documentary evidense furnished would have proved satisfactory.
I have the Honor to remain
Very Respectfully 
Your [illegible] [illegible]
[illegible] of States
by W. R. Pierce

[signed] How J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
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G. F. Yates
July 25, 1860
O. C.
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311
Feu: off
July 25, 1840

Sir

In the case of[illegible] Nelly Palmatier rec'd under the act of 4 July 36 it is reported that her late husband was in service at the time of his capture by the enemy - but it is not stated as the rules require, in what corps & under what officers he was serving - where stationed and under what circumstances he was taken prisoner.

Giles F. Yates agt.
Schenectada N.Y.
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Supplemental Affidavit
Children of Isaac & Nelly Palmatier
Act July 4. 1836

Agent Giles F. Yates
Schenectady N.Y.
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State of New York, County of Schenectady} ss
John J. Schermerhorn of the City of Schenectady in said county aged seventy six years being further duly sworn deposeth & saith that the said Isaac Palmatier refered to and described in his former affidavit was during the war of the Revolution previous to his capture by the enemy as aforesaid a private in the Regiment of Militia commanded by Col Van Schoonhoven, and as Deponent believes of the company whereof Efrenetus White was Lieutenant. James Gordon was Lieutenant Colonel of said Regiment which belonged to the then County of Albany near the border of the County of Tryon. Hendrick Bonta a brother in law of this deponent was a Lieutenant in the same Regiment and was afterwards also taken prisoner. His widow Angelta Bonta is now a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress dated July 9. 1888. In the fall of the year 1780 when said Isaac Palmatier was on duty at Ballston in said county of Albany with a detachment from said Regiment, as Deponent
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thinks under Command of Col James Gordon, he then saw Isaac in company with many thus both privates and officers was taken prisoner by the Indians & was conveyed to Canada & retained in imprisonment as is particularly described a the former affidavit made by this Deponent. This Deponent altho in Ballston at the time was not personally present at said Captain but well knows that it did occur there being no fact more notorious than this during the whole war occurring in said county of Albany. This Deponent does not believe that there is any person now living who has a better knowledge of the fact of said capture than he has.
Subscribed & sworn this 1st day of August 1840 & I certify that John J Schermerhorn is a credible witness & that the words "war on duty" were interlined before execution.
[signed] Roswell Perry J.P.
[signed] John J Schermerhorn
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State of New York, County of Schenectady, Clerk's Office} ss
I Theodoric R. Van Ingen dep clerk of said County do hereby certify that Roswell Perry before whom the foregoing deposition of John J. Schermerhorn purports to have been taken was at the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in & for said County duly commissioned & sworn & that his signature to said deposition is genuine.
Witness my hand & official seal this 1st day of August One thousand Eight hundred & forty.
[signed] T R Van Ingen, Dep Clk
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To J. L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
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J. L. Edwards Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir, 
In compliance with the directions contained in your letter enclosed, I have caused a declaration to be made in open Court, by the daughter of Mrs Nelly Palmatier, in the matter of her appreciation for a pension on account of the services of Isaac Palmatier in the revolutionary war. Attached to the supplemental declaration will be found two additional affidavits not called for, yet which I trust will broughtath, & tend to confirm the declaration you will also receive herewith the required certificate of the Rev F. L. Kipp and a certificate from the Rev Jacob Van Vechten of this city, as to the baptism of a child of the applicant in June 1775.
I am very respectfully your ob. serv.
G. F. Yates
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Pension Office
May 5. 1840

Sir,
The papers of Mrs. Helen Maybee, who is a daughter of the late Mrs. Nelly Palmatier, who applies for the pension supposed to have been due her mother at the time of her death, under the act of July 4. 1836, are herewith returned. The declaration must be made in a Court of Record, and the Court must give their opinion as to the truth of the matter therein set forth. The period of the marriage of the claimant's mother should be specified. The certificate of the Rev. W. F. L. Kipp, of Fishkill, in whose possession it is supposed record evidence of the marriage may be found, should be produced.
I am respectfully your obed. servt.
[signed] J L Edwards

Giles F. Yates, Esq.
Schenectady N. York
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April 30, 1936

Isaac Palmatier, W.18731
BA-J/MCS

Mrs. C. F. Palmetier
125 East 11th Avenue
Denver, Colorado

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter of March 21, 1936, requesting the Revolutionary War record of Isaac Hagerman Palmetier and the record of his father, Peter, who served in the Revolution or a previous war.

On May 16, 1935, you were furnished the full history of Isaac Palamtier as shown by papers on file in pension claim, W.18731, and this is the only soldier of that name (searched under all spellings) who lived in the vicinity of Dutchess County, New York, that is found in the Revolutionary War records of this office.

The Revolutionary War records of this office fail to afford any information in regard to a Peter Palmatier or Palmetier.

This office has no record of military service rendered prior to the Revolutionary War.

Very truly yours
[unsigned]
A. D. HILLE
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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June 20, 1935

BA-J/MCS
Isaac Palmatier, W.18731

Jessie C. Palmetier
125 East 11th Avenue
Denver Colorado

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter of May 25, 1935, in which you request further information in regard to an Isaac H. Palmetier who married Sarah Van Kleeck and had a son Laurence born July 18, 1802.

The papers on file in pension claim of Isaac Palmatier, W. 18731, contain no data relative to this soldier's family other than that given in letter sent you May 16, 1935, and this is the only Isaac Palmatier (searched under all spellings) who lived in the vicinity of Dutchess County, New York, that is found in the Revolutionary War records of this office.

Very truly yours
[unsigned]
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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[stamped] RECEIVED, MAR 24 1936, MAIL SUB-DIV., VETS. ADM., READER NO. 31

Veterans Administration
Washington D. C.
Dear Sir: I have had some correspondence with you regarding the War record of Isaac H. Palmetier. Since then, I have learned the date of death of the Isaac H. Palmetier which was, October, 26. 1826 at Poughkeepsie town N.Y. where he resided. His widow's name is given as Sarah, and his son Laurence was appointed administrator of his estate.
Any information you may have concerning this Isaac H. Palmetier will be greatly appreciated. His middle name was Hagerman and his wife was Sarah Van Kleeck. They were members of the Dutch Reformed church. Their eldest son Peter was baptized at New Hackensack Dutchess Co. 1787 - their youngest son Laurence was baptized at Poughkeepsie Sept. 1802. If you have any records to establish the war record of this member of our family will be a big help. We do not have any Dutchess Co records here other than the census. The 1800 census included him in Poughkeepsie Town.
I have reason to suppose that the  father 
["Peter" written in pencil in a different hand]
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of Isaac H. Palmetier might have been a Peter Palmetier -(reason being that the Dutch custom was to name the first son Peter after his paternal grandfather)- you might look under a Peter for a son Isaac H. prior to the Revolution, in pension records perhaps. There is a tradition in the family about one Peter Palmetier going thru the woods to deliver a message and who was made an officer. Whether that was in the Revolution or previous war I could not say.
In your letter of May 16th you mention the Isaac Palmetier who was a soldier (Capt. from Albany, and mention a number of daughters) who d. about 1832. The fact that no son (if our Isaac H should be his son) is mentioned might be because Isaac H. preceeded[sic] him in death. (Oct 26, 1826).
Not having any vital statistics of NY here it is very difficult to determine (My authority for his death is a letter from the Surrogate Court of Dutchess Co.)
Thanking you 
Sincerely
Mrs. C. J. Palmetier
125 E. 11th Ave, Denver, Colorado
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Denver Colorado May 25. 1935

Refer to 
B.A - J. see Isaac Palmetier
W 18731.

Mr. A. D. Hiller
Veterans Administration
Washington. D.C.

dear Mr. Hiller,
Thank you very kindly for your letter of May 16th. I appreciate the information regarding the Palmetier family. I have found references of three Isaac Palmetiers and as yet have not been able to identify one as our ancestor.
The Isaac Palmetier described by you could not be our Isaac - as he would have been about sixty five years of age at the time our grandfather was born - yet the names of five of the daughters appear in grandfathers family.
I'm hoping you can find a son by the name of Isaac - or at least a son who could be the father of our Isaac.
The following information is all I have on our branch -
Lawrence Palmetier b in Dutchess co(?) N.Y. July 18, 1802 M. Mary Manning Jan 26 1828 - Dutch Reformed church at Hyde Park Ref in History of Dutchess Co by F. D. Roosevelt, d. @ Winthrop Iowa (Buchanan Co).
Their children, Hannah - Sarah Ann. Isaac H. Charles, Mary Eliza, Jared. Warren DuBois, Catherine, Alexander. 
Warren DuBois is our father - a civil war soldier.
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A reference from the records of the Dutch Reformed Church at Poughkeepsie (Dutchess Co Historical society gives the baptism of Laurence Palmetier Sept 19. 1802 - and his parents as Isaac H. Palmetier and Sarah Van Kleeck.
An elderly cousin gives us the information that Laurence Palmetiers father was Isaac Hagemen Palmetier but she did not know the name of his mother - spelling of Hageman, may be Hegeman or Hagerman (Laurence had a brother Peter, a sister Harriet and June.
You mentioned daughters of Isaac Palmetier and Nelly Van DeBogart - as Nelly, Hannah, Helen, Maria, Sophia, Elizabeth, Catherine and Sarah. I underline the ones that are similiar[sic] in our branch [writer underlined Hannah, Maria, Elizabeth, Catherine and Sarah] - were there any sons?
WE do not have reference books in this library to find any military Records.
The census of 1800 Dutchess Co gives Isaac H. Palmetier - given having 1 son over ten years and under sixteen. 1 son of 26 and under 45 - 2 females under 10 - and 1 over 26.
I am quite sure, the Isaac you sent me the data on, must be a relative and likely the ancestor of our Isaac H.
Thanking you again for the information and please help me to straighten out the ancestry - The Dutch Reformed Church at Albany may have some records. We do not have any here.
Sincerely
Jessie C. Palmetier
125 E. 11th Ave. Apt 10. Denver. Col
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[stamped] RECEIVED, APR 19 1935, MAIL SUBDIV. [illegible]

Denver Col Apr. 15. 1935

Pension bureau
War Dept
Washington D.C.

Gentlemen,
Kindly send me information you have regarding Isaac H. Palmetier who served in the Revolutionary War. in a company designated as Capt. Abraham Swarthout's and Lieutenant Col. Marines Willett's Co, 3rd Battalion of New York Forces, commanded by Peter Gansevoort from Mar 29, 1777 until about Dec. 1780.
The wife of Isaac H. Palmetier was Sarah Van Kleeck. Do you have a record of a pension? Can you furnish the names of the parents of Isaac H. Palmetier? The family lived in Dutchess Co N. York and records of the Baptisms of their sons, Petrics b. Jan 31. 1787 and laurence July 18. 1802 (Baptized Sept 19. 1802) are found in the Dutch Reformed church at Poughkeepsie N.Y.
There is another Isaac Palmetier listed
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as a Capt with the British forces.
I am tracing the Palmetier family and want the records of the Isaac Palmetier whose wife was Sarah Van Kleeeck - whose son Laurence Palmetier b July 18. 1802 is our grandfather.
Thanking you very kindly for the information.
Our records in the Public Library are not complete. I have written the Historical society at Poughkeepsie and they referred me to your Department.
Sincerely
Jessie C. Palmetier
125 E. 11th Ave
Denver Col 
Mentone Apts # 10