Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 15427, for David Thorp, Connecticut
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Thorp, David  Number W. 15427
Service Conn.
Elizabeth
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David Thorp
of Herkimer Co in the state of New York who was a sergeant in the regiment commanded by Colonel S. Webb of the Connecticut line, for the term of 1 year.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 8 dollars per month, to commence on the 4th of June 1819.
Certificate of Pension issued the 10th of Feb 1820 and sent to Hon. H. R. Storrs,
House of Reps.
Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1819 $24.26
Semi-anl.all'ce ending 4 Mar 1820 48.08
$72.26
Revolutionary claim,
Act 18th March, 1818.

See letter of the 9th Jany 1826 to Edmund Varney Esq.
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1889 Prof H P Johnston NY City History Rangers May 22 his letter herein  Prior

11.323
New York A
Elizabeth Thorp deceased
widow of David Thorp
who died on the
of  in the State of
who was a Corp & Sgt commanded by
Captain   of the      commanded
by   Conn. in the 

line for Revolution
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany
at the rate of 74 dollars 64 cents
per annum, to commence on the 4th day of
March, 1836, to 25 July 1840
increased from $60 
Certificate of Pension issued the 9 day of
Apr 1853 and sent to
W E Wade
Rose NY
Arrears to the 4th day of 
Semi-annual allowance ending
Revolutionary Claim,
Act, July 7, 1838
R.. McRae Clerk
Recorded Book D Vol. [ ] page 553
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D Thorp
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State of New York
County of Wayne
William S Fox and Jenette Fox of the town of Walcott in said county and state such being of lawful age being duly sworn according to law saith they were each of them acquainted with David Thorp late a pensioner from Herkimer County, New York, at the rate of $96 per annum, and who died in the year 1829.  That at his death he left a widow named Elizabeth Thorp, with whom he had resided from deponents acquaintance as his wife.  that deponents have always understood from their earliest acquaintance with the family, that the said Elizabeth Thorp widow of the said David, the pensioner maiden name was Elizabeth Tomlinson, that the said Elizabeth Thorp remained the widow of David Thorp the pensioner untill her death which took place on the twenty fifth day of July 1840, that at her decease she left the following named children her surviving which were he only children her surviving.  Viz; Nancy Fox of Wayne Co. New York since deceased, Elizabeth Forward and Lewis Thorp of both in the Province of Canada, and David Thorp of Oneida County New York since deceased. that from their acquaintance with the family they have the fullest confidence in the old record here annexed, as being the true record of the the events recorded thereon.
Wm. S Fox
Jennet Fox
Sworn and subscribed before me, this 1st day of September 1851
Walter Easton Justice
I certify that the above named affiants are credible witnesses
Walter Eaton Justice
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State of New-York
Wayne County Clerk's Office
I SImon B Garitt, Clerk of the County Court in and for the County and State above mentioned, do hereby certify that Walter Easton whose genuine signature appears to the annexed jurat [   ] was at the time of signing the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for the county and state aforesaid, duly elected and sworn; that all his official acts, as such are entitled to full faith and credit; and that the aforesaid County Court is a Court of Record, have several jurisdictions, a Clerk and sea.  In testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal,(the seal of said Court and County) at Lyons, this tenth day of Feby 1852
SB Garitt, Clerk
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State of New York
County of Wayne
Presently appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the peace in and for said County, Nancy Perry, a resident of the town of Huron, in said county, aged [blank] years who being first duly sworn according to law saith that she has been from her earliest recollection acquainted with David Thorp, late a United States Pensioner from Herkimer County, New York, at the rate of $96 per annum, and with his wife Elizabeth that the said David & Elizabeth Thorp has resided together as man and wife from deponents first recollection untill the time of the death of David Thorp which took place in the year 1829.  That at his death he left the said Elizabeth Thorp a widow who remained a widow untill her death which took place on the twenty fifth day of July 1840.  That at her death she left the following named children her surviving which were her only children her surviving viz: Nancy Fox of Wayne Co. New York since deceased, Elizabeth Forward & Lewis Thorp, Both in the Province of Canada and David Thorp of Oneida Co New York since deceased, that each of them were of the age of twenty one years and upwards at her decease. That deponent has full confidence in the true record of the events recorded thereon, that deponent has always understood that said Elizabeth Thorp widow of David Thorp the pensioner name was Elizabeth Tomlinson before her marriage to said David Thorp.
Nancy Perry
Sworn and subscribed before me this 1st day of September 1851 Walter Easton Justice I certify Nancy Perry above named is a credible person.
Walter Easton Justice
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To whom it may concern
A memorandum of some of my hard misfortune I have met with since the old revolution was concluded, as for my good fortunes they are but few I shall [    ]  but two the one is that my life spared me to to be one to free our country from the cruel [  ] of Grate Briton and to gain our Independance the other is that God has spared my life so long as to see seventy five years which I acount among my grate blessings
When the old revolution war commenced I was about twenty years old Then lived in Connecticut in the County of Litchfield when I was born at that time [   ] enlisting to go to the northward I enlisted as Corporal in to Capt David Hinman Company in Colo Benjamin Hinmans Regiment for six months when [   ] to Ticonderoga their we all Summer in September I was taken [  ] severly with the fever and being unable to do duty thi Colo gave me a Pass to return home after I had got home and will and the time had expired that
I had enlisted and at that time another regiment was raising to go to Boston I enlisted again as Sergeant into Capt Isaac Bostwicks Company in Colo Charles Webbs Regiment for one year when Regy marchd to Boston I was there eight mos then drafted as one to go with General Lee to the Southern States as a life guard, this being the beginning of winter we comenced our long and tegus [tedious] march more than one thousand miles when we [  ] we returned to New York the [  ] from after where we found our among the enemis fleet then in sight of New York we their joined our Respective Regiments I was in the hotist of the Battle on Long Island I came of the same night that General Washington did, soon after this there was orders to raise a company of rangers of 150 I was one of them as [  ] Sergent about this the enemy landed on York Island the [   ] they land[ ] we had a very severe battle with to enemy which was [ ]] the monday fight we [   ]Commander Colo Who fell in the Battle he did not say go Boys but Come Boys
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and we were always ready and [   ]  to follow him and till he fell within six feet wheir I was he begd to be movd so that the enemy should not get his body.  I was one that help put him on Soldiers sholders who carried him off he expird about one hour after, we remained between the lines till late in the fall had a great many severe scrimages with the enemy, at length the enemy crost at Frogs Point and went up to White Plains then returned both Kingsbridge and hemd us in we was obliged to resort to Fort Washington here we had a bad commander he was either a grate coward or a cursed traitor the fort was given up  ammediately on the sixteenth day of November ther was nothing to be heard among our soldiers but crying swearing and cursing that the fort was given up we were then made to Mehenamt from then put aboard the Prison ships remained about two months having  [  ] the most barbarous unhuman and wicked conduct that even could be invented by man and that hundreds dye with nothing but hunger a most shocking death them that lived [    ] every thing but death the Bosen came down every morning with a rope in his hand, Hay is there any Dead Yankee hour if their was any so weak that they could not got of his way they felt the rope on their back, our food for four days in the week each day was some oat meal full of worms scalded made very thin put into a wooden dish about three pints for eight men the other three days two ounces salt beef a man with a little hard bisket if by chance we got a beef bone we were rich it was cracked and pounded every mite was eaten at one time we were refused fresh water for three days a centry set over the watercask then every man drank as he pleased a great many being so weak and thirsty Drank till they died This was not for the clarity of water we lay in site of the Manning Pl[ ]  at length some orders that we could be released by signing a Parrole not to thak up armes till exchanged we very redaly excepted the offer and came out about the middle of January I got as far as Norwalk I being too week could get no further now forty miles to my home my people soon heard the good news came and carried my home it was four weeks before I could walk across the room
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it was six months before I could perform any kind of Business and now as I have got  through the [      ] war I shall come to the place  wherin I have made at my home for taken [  ] years the years of gusn Pact over I have not with some [      ]  halt mention but one of lost at bast one thousand dollars of Property by fire which got by my industry,   Twenty six years ago I moved to this Town now West Brunswick wherein I have made it my home ever since I have three sons  hear we got some land went to farming about six hears after this I met with a [ [   ] severe misfortune i was thrown from my horse broke one of my legs in two places I was not able to walk one step without crooches [         ] by reason of this and my other infirmities which I have had more than forty years I have not been able to do anything of labour times at length I got so I could not ride on our horse way years I then bought books and Almanacs vid about and Peddled to help get a living about this time that boys became twenty one years of age, one left me and went one hundred miles to the westward my other son staid and worked on the farm. at length my youngest son became of age then my other son went to the westward to his brother and living therin mor my youngest son works on the farm. [   ] about  this time, I was informed there was a Pention granted to the old revolution soldiers about livin since I made Application and got my Certificate and was put on the Pention list I left my Certificate with a friend to  Doc the money for me he fo [  ] the money still it was stapt the man beng a Marccj ant failed I got not one cent nor never shall about this time I was taken sing and was not able to go out of the house for six months, one half the time not able to get out of my bed without help - and I was not able to apply for my pention the Law was soldiers that a man must or[ ]]] at court Personally then not been able to attend Court for six years [   ] go the house wherein the sick man is and do the business there soon as i was informed of this I arranged my affairs to as to application I then had some property to days [ ] according to laws before I could apply and had let my son have [    ]
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and [ ] other property to mak year of which property was mine which property I assigned over to William Williams for a Debt [  ] of Four hundred Dollars for books & almanacs to paddle which was all the property I had benefit that the land allowance to keep I then sent for Judge Varney he came and said that [     ] I was all as thankful was necessary when I [  ] heard that I had asigned the Property over to Mr Williams, he was turning angry that he turned me and my wife both out of the house in to the street, gave us nothing but an old straw bed to sleep on.  I had the good feather bed, in the house of my [   ] then at that time I could not walk one step without moocing my wife went to one of our children got liberty to go into one of his rooms naibour farm with his wagon brought in to his house my meighbour being somewhat poo r had no spare bed might came on we prepared our straw couch and tumbled over thru down in forward this to be hard for old people upwards of Seventy years old who have always watch and be good for their bed this bought the [   ] Prison ships into unic brane  / intent to our other sons one of them came and cared his mother home with him I nief not lods to go my self I have to think for my self I went to friend of mine when I have room and even finer who has bounded and taken care of me in [    ] to non of some recompence when I get my Pention of which if i do not get I must hire and a great many more friends and the clothes all in the Linch my life The most miserable creature on earth and see no other way but pernishio the thut i have made a long cataloge of my misfortunes as long as thing are  all true and not half told I have not [  ] Doubt, but that the cause of my [   ]  all proceded from the hard pain I received on bord the Prison Ship I  can scarsely hold the pen in my finger
David Thorp
Sworn the 12th day of August 1826 before me
E J Cozier, Commr
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David Thorps
old case
Papers
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State of New York
Oneida County p: on this fourth day of June 1819 before me the subscriber one of the judges of the Court of common Pleas of the county and state aforesaid personally appears David Thorp aged 68 years, resident in the Town of Norway in the County of Herkimer and State aforesaid  who being by me first duly sworn according to law doth on this oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by a late act of Congress entitle "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the Land and Naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War" That he the said David Thorp enlisted in Woodbury in the State of Connecticut, as a Sergeant, in the Company commanded by Captain Isaac Bostwick, in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Samuel Webb in the Connecticut line, that his term of enlistment was one year, that he enlisted in the month of November or December 1775.  that he continued to serve in the said Corps, in the service of the United States until about the 16th day of November 1776, when he was taken prisoner by the British at Fort Washington in the State of New York, when that fort was surrendered to the British forces. that he continued a prisoner in the custody of the enemy, in and about New York until on or about the tenth day of January 1777, when he was liberated on his parol.
that he was in the Battle on York Island, and on Long Island, and at the Capture of Fort Washington
That he is in reduced circumstances and
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stands in need of the assistance of his country for support and further saith not.
David Thorp
Sworn to and declared before me, the day & year aforesaid.
E Bacon one of the Judges of Oneida Com Pleas

State of New York
Oneida County 
John B Pease of the Town of Whitestown in the County and State aforesaid being duly sworn saith that he is acquainted with David Thorp, named in the foregoing declaration.  That he knows that the said David Thorp is in needy and reduced circumstances, and destitute of any property, and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support, and further saith not.
John B Pease
Sworn this second day of July 1819
Before me
E Bacon Judge of Oneida Com. Pleas
I do certify that I am well acquainted with John B Pease, who made the above affidavit and do believe him to be a man of truth and veracity.  Dated July 2d 1819
EBacon Judge of Oneida Com Pleas
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Judges
I Ezekiel Bacon
aforesaid to certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said David Thorp did serve in the Revolutionary war as stated in the preceding declaration, against the common enemy.  I further certify that it appears to my satisfaction by the affidavit hereto annexed that the said Daid Thorp is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support.
Dated July 2d 1819
EBacon

I certify that Ezekiel Bacon was at the time of executing the above papers, a Judge of the court of Common pleas in and for the County of Oneida that the said court is a court of record the above signatures of Ezekiel Bacon are the hand writing of the said Judge.
July 2nd, 1819
WR Storm one of the the [ illegible] the State of N York
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David Thorp's papers

Further evidence of service wanting the testimony of two witnesses whose credibility is certified by the Judge.
Will be admitted
16 Jul 1819
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Oneida County
Thomas Parmelee of the town of Paris in said county being duly sworn maketh oath and saith that he is well acquainted with David Thorp the Petitioner in the petition named hereunto annexed.  that he knew the said David in the year 1775 that he this deponent knew of the said Davids enlisting into a company commanded by Capt S Bostwick in the regiment commanded by Col. Saml Webb in the Connecticut line in the Revolutionary War that he thinks that the said David enlisted in November or December of the year 1775 and that the term of his enlistment was for one year. that he knoews that he continued to serve in said corps in the service of the United States untill some time in the month of November 1776 when he was taken a prisoner at Fort Washington in the State of New Yor when the fort was surrendered to the British Forces and that he then [  ] he continued a prisoner about tow months and that he enlisted in Woodbury in the state of Connecticut and further saith not.
Thomas Parmele
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I do certify that I am well acquainted with Thomas Parmelee who made the within afficait and do believe him to be a man of truth and veracity.
dated this 30th day of October 1819
Julius Pond, Justice of the Peace
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Oneida County
Thomas Goodsell of the town of Paris in said county being duly sworn maketh oath and saith that he is well acquainted with David Thorp the petitioner named in the petition hereunto named and that he recalled the said David in the year 1775 and that he then recall of the said Davids enlisting in the town of Woodbury in the State of Connecticut, into a company commanded by Capt Bostwick in the regiment commanded by Coll Webb in the Connecticut line in the revolutionary war that he thinks the said David enlisted about the fall of the year 1775 as he thinks for the term of one year that he continued in the said corps in the service of the United States untill sometime in the month of November 1776 when he the said David was taken a prisoner at Fort Washington in the state of New York (as he thinks and verily believes) when the fort was surrendered to the British forces than he thinks he continued a prisoner about two months that he well knows the said David in the service  for more  than a year and that [  ] and further saith not.
Thomas Goodsell
Sworn and Subscribed before me this 30th day of October 1819
Julius Pond, Justice of the Peace
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I do certify that I am well acquainted with Thomas Goodsell who made the within affidavit and to believe him to be a man of truth and veracity
Dated this 30th day of October 1718
Julius Pond, Justice of the Peace
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I certify that Julius Pond was at the time of the taking of the within afficavit one of the Justices of the Peace in and for the County of Oneida in the State of New York - that I am acquainted with his hand writing the signatures are his.
W R Storm of the [illegible]
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Herkimer County
David Thorp aged seventy three years resident in the town of West Brunswick in the County aforesaid being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath declare as follows.  I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United State on the 18th day of March A.D. 1818 and that I have not since that time by gift sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof so as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of congress entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the Land and Naval Services of the United States in the revolutionary War passed the eighteenth day of March 1818 and that I have not nor any other person in trust for me any property or security contract or debts due to me nor have I any income whatsoever of any kind - that my family consists of my self aged seventy three years and my wife Elisabeth age sixty seven years that we subsist on the charity of our friends.  That I am not able to perform any kind of labor or to appear in open court by reason of a disease or bodily infirmity named by the Physician the Rheumatism or gout.  Also seratal hernia of anormous size that for the most part of the time I am unable to walk or face
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myself, and that I have not been able to attend in person in open court by reason of the said diseases for the term of five years past or since the passage of the act of congress passed the first of May 1820 requiring pensioners to exhibit a schedule of their property in courts of record - and that I have a certificate in my possion, which at the time it was granted entitled me to a pension of eight dollars per month commending on the 4th Day of June A.D. 1819, that I have been deprived of my pension by reason of not being able to appear in Court since the aforesaid act of 1820. And that I do not own nor possess any kind of Property of any kind, wearing apparel and bedding excepted,and further this deponant saith not 
David Thorp
Subscribed and Sworn to the 16th day of February
A.D. 1825 before me 
Edmund Varney one of the Judges of Herkimer Common Pleas
 I Edmund Varney Esq a Judge of the court of Common Pleas holden in and for the County of Herkimer where the declamant resides do hereby cerify that the above named David
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Thorp, is from disease called the Rheumatism or gout, with which I am credably informed and believe he has been afflicted for a number of years past and unable to attend the court of which I am a Judge, and I do not think from the present appearance that he will be able to attend the Court above named at its next session, I have therefore in pursuance of the Act of Congress passed the first of March one thousand eight hundred and twenty tree attended at his place of abode and administard the forgoing oath and that I cannot discover that the declarent posses any view of property real or personal whatsoever, Wearing apparel and bedding excepted.
Edmund Varney Judge of Herkimer Common Pleas
State of New York
We the undersigned Judges of the Court of Common pleas in and for the County of Herkimer in open court at its May Term 1825 do certify that We are of opinion that the said David Thorp has no property either real or personal except his necessary beds and bedding and necessary clothing set forth in the above schedule
Hiram Nolton
Sanders Lansing
John Mahon
May 5, 1825
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State of NewYork
Herlimer County
Clerk's Office
Alijah Osborn clerk of said county do hereby certify that Hiram Nolton Sanders Lansing and John Mahon were judges of the court of Common pleas in the said county at the several times on which their names appear within subscribed - And I do further certify the writing to be a true copy of the original paper filed in this office on the 6th day of May 1825, and now remaining on file in this office.
In Witness whereof I have hereto set my hand and the common pleas seal this 19th day of November 1825
A. Osborn
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Henry Ingersoll Thorp of the town of Picton in the County of Prince Edward Merchant maketh oath before me as one of her Majesties justices of the peace in and for the said county and saith that he did on the sixteenth day of July AD 1851 Out and the above record from the Bible of Elizabeth Thorp who died on the twenty fifth day of July AD 1840 wife of David Thorp who died on the twelfth day of October AD 1820
Henry I Thorp
Sworn befoe e at Picton in the County of Prince Edward this 16th day of July 1851
John P Roblin
Justice of the Peace for the County of Prince Edward
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Family Marriages
David Thorp born March 1751
Elisabeth Tomlinson born 1 February 1757
Married 5 August 1778

David Thorp Jun born 30 Aug 1789
Polly Foster born 26 December 1799
Married 13 March 1822
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Family Record
Births
Nancy Thorp born 26 July 1779
Lewis 20 do 1781
Henry 6 January 1783
Dead [in margin] Betsy 4 March 1785
David 30 August 1789
Betsy 13 March 1792
Delia Thorp born 26 Oct 1822
Pamela 14th January 1823
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Act 7th July 1838,
David Thorp
Pend. as Sargeant 1818,
Herkimer Co N. York died 1829
Elizabeth Thorp married
1778, died 25th July 1840
Henry Perry,
Administrator
David Thorp service 14 mos Degt
6 " pris

W G Wade
Present
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United Counties of Frontenac, Lenox and Addington, to wit

Elizabeth Forward, formerly Elizabeth Thorp, wife of Abel Phelps Forward, of the Township of Ernest Town in the said United Counties, Farmer, maketh oath and saith that she verily believes that her father, the late David Thorp, late a pensioner of the United States at the rate of ninety six dollars per annum died in the State of New York on or about the 12th day of October A. D. 1829, that at his decease he left a widow viz: Elizabeth Thorp, named before marriage Elizabeth Tomlinson, who remained his widow until her death which took place on the twenty fifth day of July A.D. 1840 one thousand Eight hundred and forty. That at her death she left the following named children her surviving viz: Nancy Fox of Wayne County N Y since deceased, Elizabeth Forward and Lewis Thorp of Bath in the Province of Canada and David Thorp of Oneida County NY since deceased , that they were her only children her surviving at her decease and that each are of the age of twenty one years and upwards and that the family record hereto attached is in the hand writing of David Thorp Junior aforesaid and was alway considered to be a true statement of the events, therein recorded. 
Elizabeth Forward
Sworn and subscribed before me at Ernest Town in the said United Counties in the Province of Canada, Isaac Fraser, J.P. and a Comr for taking affidavits in the Queens Bench in the said United Counties
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Decleration

In order to ebtain the benefits of the provisions made by Act of Congress of the 7th July 1838 Entitle an act granting pensions to certain widows.
State of New York
County of Wayne
on this 17th day of February 1852 before the subscriber Judge of the County Court and doing the duties of Surrogate in and for said County - personally appeared Henry Perry Esq. of said county of lawful age, and a creditable person, who being first duly sworn according to law deposeth and saith that he is the Administrator for Elizabeth Thorp - deceased, late widow of David Thorp, who was a United States pensioner at the rate of $96 per annum, from Herkimer Co New York, and who died in the year 1829 - and left a widow him surviving to whom, according to evidence herewith presented, said David Thorp, the pensioner was married on the fifth day of August 1778, and whose maiden name was Elizabeth Tomlinson, and that said Elizabeth Thorp died the widow of said David Thorp on the twenty fifth day of July 1840 one thousand eight hundred and forty and left the children named in the anexed certificate, her surviving, that from deponants acquaintance with the family he has full confidence in the annexed record as being the true record of the events recorded thereon.
That as administrator of said Elizabeth widow of David Thorp the pensioner deponent makes this declaration for the purpose of obtaining the pension due under the act of Congress above stated. 
Henry Perry
Sworn and Subscribed before me
the day and year above written
Leander S Ketchum County Judge
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State of New York
Wayne County
I Leander S Ketchum Counry Judge of Wayne County, performing the duties of the office of Surrogate therein do hereby certify that at a Surrogates Court held before me at Clyde in said County of Wayne on the 17th day of February A.D. 1852 evidence satisfactory to said court was addressed to show that David Thorp late a pensioner of the United States at the rate of $96 per annum, died in the year 1829 and that he left heirs surviving Elizabeth Thorp his widow who remained his widow until her death and that she died on the twenty fifth day of July (1840) one thousand eight hundred forty and at her death she left the following named children her surviving who were her only children her survivors viz: Nancy Fox of Wayne County New York (now deceased) Elizabeth Forward & Lewis Thorp of Bath in the Province of Canada and David Thorp, of Oneida County New York (now deceased) and that Henry Perry of sad county of Wayne is the administrator duly appointed and authorized to act as such of said widow Elizabeth Thorp and that each of her surviving children were of the age of twenty one years upwards
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and cause to be affixed the seal of said surrogate Court at Clyde in said County this fourteenth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty two
Leander S. Ketchum
County Judge
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Rev. Widow, etc
file no. 15427
Elizabeth Thorp
Widow of David Thorp
Sergt Rev War
Act: July 7 1838
Index Vol. M Page 241
[Arrangement of 1870}
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Corrected and sent to W G Wade Rose NY 24 June 1852

11 323
New York Albany 
Elizabeth Thorp decs 
widow of David Thorp who died on the  --- of Wayne Co in the State of NY
who was a Sergt in the ---- commanded by Captain --- of the -----commanded by ------ in the Revolution for one year
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 60 dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1826, ended 25 July 1840
Certificate of Pension issued the 15th day of May 1852 and sent to W G Wade Precent Rose  NYarrears to the 4th of 
Semi annual allowance ending
Revolutionary Claim, Act July 7, 1838
Recorded  by Book D Vol Page 553
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New York
David Thorp
Sergt $8 per mo. placed on Revolutionary roll, Feb 10 1820
Respecting Apn for continuation the letter to W. Williams Sept 9 1826.
et idem 6 Oct 1826
Continued 18 Oct 1826
Commencing 12 October 1826
and notification sent to the care of Wm Williams, Esq Utica NY
[  ] 4th March 1827
[    ] 439.18
4 March 1826

Let W G Wade
Jan 29 / 51
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R 14,588
Elizabeth Thorp dec
widow of David 
NY
act 7 July 1838
Married 1778
Widowed 1829
[ ] 1 year Sgt $60
per annum  [ ] 4 March 1836 ending 25 July 1840 payable to Henry Perry and for the benefit of 
Nancy Fox
Elizbeth Forman
Louis Thorp
David Thorp and David's children
Albany
W G Wade
Precent
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New York May Roll
Elizabeth Thorp, dec
widow of David, who was a Corporal And Sgt Conn Troops

Ad Act July 7, 1838
4 mos corporal $14.64
1 year Sgt 60.00
$74.64
Ca March 4, 1836
end July 25 1840 when she died deducting forms
payment at $60per annum
Payable to 
Henry Perry and use of Nancy Fox, Elizabeth  Forman Louis Thorp and and David Thorp and children
 W G Wade Present on Rose NY
He asks me to sent to Rose
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David Thorp pens
Act 1818 New York

Ex W Wade
March 51
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Washington D.C.
February 17th 1851
Sir,
I request to be allowed the privilege of examining the papers of David Thorp - late of New York Pens act 1818. Herkimer Co. N. Y. A letter of one of the heirs, requesting the Department to consider me as the Attorney was forwarded to your Office from Rose N. Y. on the 14th of October Last.
I am respectfully
Your Obt Servt
W G Wade
To J L Heath Esq
Comm of Pensions
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Utica Oct 12, 1826
Hon J. L. Edwards,
Sir
Yours of 8th inst was duly received. The omission on my part to procure the seal of the county clerk was purely accidental; it is now procured, and herewith sent
Yours Respectfully
William Williams
Atty. for David Thorp
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Utica Sept 30, 1826
J. L. Edwards Esq
Sir
Enclosed is David Thorp's Affidavit to the facts required in your favor of 9th inst.  He tells me that the testimony of many of his neighbors can be had, if required, as to his poverty.
I am Respectfully
Your obdt Servand
William Williams
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Utica, Oneida Co. N.Y.
August 14, 1826
Hon S. Barbour
Secrty of War
Sir,
I herewith enclose the Documents in the case of David Thorp, as his Attorney.  I believe the papers are all agreeable to the forms required by the War office; there is however one affidavit which I have enclosed at the very earnest solicitation of the old gentleman, which was not required in order to process his Pension, but which he begs as a favor you would have the goodness to read.
When his Warrant shall be made out he desires it to be forwarded to my care, at this place.
I am Respectfully
Your Obedient Servant
William Williams
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Rose, New York
Sir,
This is to request that the Department will correspond with Mr W G Wade of Rose New York relative to the service of David Thorp decd as he is the agent and attorney for investigating the claim of the widow.
I am Respectfully,
Your Obt Servant,
Henry Perry

Hon JL Edwards
Comm of Pensions
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Rose New York
October 18th 1853
Sir,
I enclose additional evidence in the claims of Elizabeth Thorp widow of David, pensioned act of 7th July 1838.  NY.  Showing for then service - I also beg leave to call the attention of the Department to the fact that from David Thorps Declaration it appears his services as a Sergeant in Col Samuel Webbs Regiment was from Nov of December 1775 untill the 10th of January 1777. 14 or at least 13 months as Sergeant which was computed for only 12 months in the adjustment of the widows claim.
I am Respectfully
Your Obt Servt
Willis G Wade

J E Heath, Esq
Comm of Pensions 
Washington DC
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Brief in the case of Elizabeth Thorp, dec.
County and State of New York
act July 7, 1838
Claim "("original"" or "for increase")
Proof exhibited, (if original)  (Increase)

Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls?  If either, state the substance.
Satisfactory Record proof that her husband, David Thorp served 4 months as a corporal in Col. Hinman's regiment, Conn troops, in addition to the service for which the claim was originally admitted.
(If for increase)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim?  If so, what?
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David Thorp
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State of Connecticut
Comptrollers Office
Hartford September 13th 1852
I certify that an application for evidence of the service of David Thorp in the war of the Revolution, I have examined the documents remaining in this office, and find the name of David Thorp on a list of soldiers discharged from Col. Hinmans Regiment in 1775, on which he is entered as a private and  opposite his name is entered discharged Sep 10th.
By documents in this office it appears that Col. Hinman's Regt. was raise in May 1775 to serve Seven months.
R. G. Pinney, Comptroller
by Geo. Robinson, Clerk.
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Rose, New York
19th June 1852
Sir,
There  appears to be a mistake in the enclosed pension certificate in case of Elizabeth Thorp either in the act under which it was found, or in the date of the commencement of the pension.  It is returned for correction.
I am respectfully
Your Obt Servt,
W G Wade

J E Heath Esq
Com of Pensions
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Washington, DC
Sir,
Enclosed herewith is the application of the heirs of Elizabeth, late widow of David Thorp, decd. claimants for arrears of pension under act of 7th July 1838.
I am respectfully Your Obt Sevt,
W G Wade

J E Heath, Esq
Comm of Pens
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Brief in the case of Elizabeth Thorp decd
Wayne County and State of New York
act 7 July 1838
Claim, Original
Proof exhibited, (if original)
Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance.
Husband was a pensioner.
Record proof of marriage
(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?
Name and residence of Agent
W G Wade
Present

S. Cole
Examining Clerk.
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Rose New York
October 13th 1854
Sir,
I by leave to request the favor of being furnished with a copy of David Thorp's Declaration in his application for a pension under act of 18th March 1818, - that I may present the widows (decd) claim under the act of 1836, or 1838, as the service shall appear to have been performed, before or after the date of their marriage.
David Thorp was a resident of Herkimer County, State of New York, at the time he was inscribed on the Pension Roll.
Your Respectfully
Humble Servt,
W G Wade
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D Thorp
Joseph Canfield
Town Clerk Derby
June 7/51
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Town Clerks Office
Derby, June 7th 1851.
M. G. Wade Esq
Dear Sir since I recd yours of May 27th / 51. I have searched the records in this office for the marriage of D. Thorp and Elizabeth Fowler but I have not yet found any such.  Our records at the time of the marriage in question was kept in such a manner that it is impossible to find one Except by examining every page in the book, as they are scattered throughout the whole book, mixed together with all the Town doings, without any alphabet to direct.  I do not suppose you would be willing to pay for the time it would take to find, or be satisfied that such record was not. have [   ] through rather hurriedly, but possibly it may yet be on the records.  Shall look farther should I find would send it speedily
Yours truly,
Joseph P. Canfield
Town Clerk
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State of New York
Oneida County
David Thorp being duly sworn maketh oath and saith that the books which he purchased of William Williams were sold by this deponent and a part of the avails thereof was expended in travelling and dispersing of the same by peddling about the country - and a part absorbed in the family expenses of this deponent and with a part of the avails of said books this deponent purchased a horse which was taken from him by his son and this deponents claim for said horse he his deponent transferred to said William Williams but from which the said William Williams has as yet received nothing as the deponent is informed and believes - this deponent saith that he is old and his memory treacherous but the above account of the dispensation of the property alluded to he believes to be substantially correct at all events this deponent has not now any part of said property or the avails of any part of said property 
David Thorp
Sworn the 30th day of Sept 1826 before me
E. S. Cozier, Justice of the Peace
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Clerk.'s Office
Oneida County,
I, John H. Ostrom, Clerk of the County of Oneida, do hereby certify, that Ezra S. Cozier whose name is subscribed to the certificate of Oath of the Annexed Affidavit of David Thorp, and endorsed thereon, was, on the day of the date of the said certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, commissioned and sworn, and duly authorised by law, to act as such Justice etc.; and further, that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Ezra S. Cozier and verily believe the signature of E. S. Cozier subscribed to the said certificate, to be the proper hand writing of the said Justice.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said County, this 12th day of October, A.D. 1826.
J. H. Ostrom Clerk
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[upside down above fold] paper returned Jany 9th 1826
Russia NY  16th Dec 
Hon Secretary of the War Department
Washington
{upside down below fold]
file March 1820 [with two seals]
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Sir,
I send here inclosed the affidavit of David Thorp with an affidavit of Doct Roland Sears as you will see from the papers, you will find that David Thorp was placed on the pension List Roll and his Enlistment dated the 10th day of February, 1821 shall [    ] Book B [  ]  5.oo pay  [  ]  I did not think it necessary to send a copy of the certificate as it appears that Mr. Thorp has been deprived of his pension for a long time I wish you to examine the papers and if you should find that Mr. Thorp is entitled to a pension as undoubtedly you will, give me information of the proper way as said in  the [ ] certificate and it may further guidance  is required as necessary given the information and much oblige your most obedient and humble servant,
Edmund Varney
Russia
Dec 1 1825
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State of New York
Herkimer County
David Thorp being duly sworn maketh oath and saith that the reason why he [had] not make an earlier application for the continuance of his pension was that he did not know that such an application would be sustained without his personal appearance before the court which he was unable to do that as soon as he was informed that the present Course was practicable he took the necessary measures to anable it and did renew the application on the papers accompanying this affidavit =
This Deponent further said that since the year 1827 this deponent has had no property of any kind except a comand against his son David Thorp Junior and which amounts to about $450 which he ha assigned to one William Williams Bookseller of Utica to [  ] him a debt of about four hundred dollars now in judgment which this deponent still owes -
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This deponent further saith that the cause of this deponent indebted to the said William Williams was books purchased by this deponent of said William Williams and which this deponent has dispond of [  ] the support and maintenance of his family this deponent further saith that he peddled out said books in small parcels to persons unknown to this deponent and which this deponent does not [   ] and that no part of said property or the [   ] therof now remain in this deponents hands -
David Thorp
Sworn the 12th day of August 1826 before me
E. F. Cozier, Comm
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State of New York
Oneida County
Asahel Seward being duly sworn maketh oath and saith that he is well acquainted with David Thorp of the Town of West Brunswick County of Herkimer that he this deponent is agent for and has the superintendent of the business and concerns of WIlliam Williams Bookseller of Utica County of Oneida, that said William Williams is now absent from the County of Oneida on a journey thro the Western part of the state of New York.  This deponent further saith that said David Thorp is justly indebted to the said William Williams in the sum of four hundred and seventy two dollars and eighty three cents for books [insert illegible] sold by said William Williams to said David Thorp in the years 1819-1820. That for securing said debt to said William Williams said debt said David Thorp asigned to said William Williams a comand amounting to about four hundred and fifty dollars against one David Thorp Junior a son of said David Thorp and this deponent then understood and now believes that said demand constituted all
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the property of which the said David Thorp was then possessed - this deponent further saith that the said [illegible] so apresed has not paid nor has the [   ] of said William Williams against said David Thorp been paid and further this deponent hath not.
Asahel Seward
Sworn this 6th June 1826, before me
James Dean, one of the Judges of Oneida County
State of New York
Clerks office Oneida County
I John H Ostrom Clerk of the County of Oneida do hereby certify that James Dean whose name is subscribed to the above certificate of oath and before whom the said affidavit was sworn to was on the day of the date of said Certificate one of the judges of the Court of Common pleas of Oneida County commissioned and sworn and duly authorised by law to take affidavits and further that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said James Dean and verily believe the signature of "James Dean" subscribed as above to be the proper hand writing of the said James Dean.  In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said county this sixth day of Jun, A.D. 1826.
J.A. Ostrom, Clerk
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Roland Sears
Affidavit
Filed May 6.1825
(This paper is properly certified, and may be returned, with the other papers.)
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I Roland Sears Physician of the town of Russia county of Herkimer and state of New York do solemnly swear that I have been personally acquainted with David Thorp formerly of the town of Norway now of West Brunswick in the County aforesaid for the term of eighteen years past, during which time the said Thorp has bad frequent and severe attacks of the Gout which has rendered him totally unable to labor or travel a very considerable part of the time particularly the last five or six years, most of the joints of his hands and feet are hylosed or stiff by reason of large despositions of a chalk out costance enveloping his joints and rendering him unable to walk or feed himself and in addition to his gouty affliction he is troubled with a Serolal hernia of enormous size making him indecent to appear in public if his health would otherwise permit which diseases will in all probability ever render him unable to appear in Court further this  deponent saith not.
Roland Sears
Sworn to and subscribed
the 16th day of February 1825
before me Edmund Varney one of the Judges of Herkimer Common Pleas State of N. York
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State of New York
Herkimer County
Clerk's office
I Abijah Osborn clerk of said county to hereby certify that Edmund Varney whose name appears within subscribed & before whom the withing affidavit was taken was one of the Judges in and for the County of Herkimer at the time of taking said affidavit - that I am acquainted with his handwriting and believe his name within subscribed to be in his own proper hand writing.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto let my land and affixed the common pleas seal of said county this 17th day of November 1825.
A. Osborn
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widow 20101
Josiah Underwood - born in Plainfield where he enlisted served 8 mos at Siege of Boston in 1775 - Enlisted May 1776 with Capt Asa Baconin Col Charles regt at Battle Long island - "detached as a ranger & taken prisoner at Fort Washington" since war lived in Pomfret & Woodstock
# Enlisted at Woodbury with Capt Isaac Bostwick, Col S B Webb
David Thorp Webb Regt Sgt aged 73 until [illegible] born & enlisted in Woodbury Conn 1775 & Sept 1776
states the order was to raise a co of 150 rangers - was Sgt "about this (time) the enemy landed 
York Island & the next day after they landed we had a very severe battle with the enemy which was called the Monday fight, we and brave commander Col who fell in the battle, he did not say go boys, but come boys, and we always were ready & willing  to follow him & until he fell within 6 feet where I was, he begged to be moved so that the enemy should not get possession of his body.  I was one who helped put him on the Soldiers shoulders who carried him off - he expired in about one hour.  After we remained between the lines til late in the fall.  had a great many severe scrimages with the enemy - at length the enemy crossed at Frog Point & were hemed us in two was obliged to resort to Fort Washington where we had a bad commander, he was a great coward & cursed traitor. The Fort was given up Nov 16." (See another Sheet for more)
Hezekiah Wadsworth enlisted April 1776 with Capt Abraham Sedgewick of West Hartford Conn joined Col. Chester in NY City was in Battle Sal Flatts - Went to LI under Col Wyllys in the battle at Flatbrook - After a few days enlisted in Col Knowlton Rangers, marched to Hellgate, built a small fort opposite to which the enemy constructed another & a cannonade for several days ensued - from there marched to Harlem Heights at which time there was a slight
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a few days after Col. Knowltons Rangers had a severe battle in which Maj Leetch & Colo. Knowlton were killed but the enemy were drawn back to their lines - Letches Rangers suffered great loss - after Colo Knowlton death he thought  Lt Grant took command & Colo Knowlton brother hand P[illegible] of company Wadsworth was in - they laid at this place until the enemy attacked about middle of Nov - and they retreated to Fort Washington where he was taken prisoner by he thinks Genl Tryon marched to Harlem & N Y City & confined in North Cha[  ] where many died of starvation & others frozen to death. - Parolled May 1777

In 1826 he was residing in Herkimer Co NY and afflicted with Rheumatism.  Stated that he was born in Woodbury, Litchfield Co, Conn where living when he enlisted in Nov or Dec 1775 for one year Capt Isaac Bostwick Webbs Reg and was promoted to Sergeant.

The following history of his service as a Ranger & as a prisoner of war was sworn to Augt 12 1826 - Copied from a statement in his own hand writing when 75 years old "When the war commenced I was about 20 years old, then lived in Conn in  County of Litchfield where I was born (Woodbury)  At that time a regt enlisting to go to the northward I enlisted as corporal into Capt David Hinman compy in COl Benjn Hinman's regt for 6 mos, when we marched to Ticonderoga, there all summer.  In Sept I was taken very severely with fever ague being unable to do duty.  The Colo gave me a pass to return home. After I had got home &  well the time had expired that I had enlisted. Another regt was raising to go to Boston & I enlisted as Sergt unto Capt Isaac Bostwicks Company in Colo Charles Webb regt for one year, marched to Boston and was then right was then drafted in one to go with Genl Lee to the Southern (next Sheet)
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David Thorp
There was nothing to be seen or heard among our soldiers but crying, swearing + cursing that the Fort was given up which was then nearest to N Y City.  We was the first aboard Ships - here I remained about two months - here I saw the most barbarous unhuman + wicked conduct that ever could be invented by man - I saw hundred die with nothing but hunger a shocking death - them that lived underwent everything but death - one Bossen [Boatswain] came down every morning with a rope in his hand [illegible] is there any dead Yankee here (if there was any so weak that they could not get [out]  of his way they felt the rope on their backs - our food for 4 days in the week each day was some oatmeal full of worms, scalded made very thin put into a wooden dish about 3 pints for 8 men - the other 3 days 2 ounces Salt Beef a man with a little hard biscuit if any bay chance we got a beef bone we were rich it was cracked & pounded  - every mite was eaten.  At one time we were refused fresh water for 3 days - a sentinel  set over the water cask then every man drank as he pleased --a great many being so weak & thirsty drank till they died - this was not for the quantity of water.   We lay in sight of the wining places - at length came orders that we could be released by signing a Parole not to take up arms till exchanged we very readily accepted the offer & came out about the middle of Jany - I got as far as Norfolk, being  unable to get no further, now 40 miles to my home.  My people soon heard the good news, came & carried my [me] home - It was 4 weeks before I could [illegible] & 6 months before I would perform any kind of business.  - About 1799-1800
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Lived1819 in in [Illegible] 1826 [illegible]
he moved  New Brunswick Herkimer Co NY - his wife Elizabeth was alive in 1825.
Born in Woodbury Conn and enlisted [illegible] under Capt David Hinman and Col. Benj. Hinman for 6 mos going to Ticonderoga where was  all summer when one year Capt [illegible] Bostwick

(from other Sheet)  "States life guard - this being the beginning of events and commenced our long and tedious march more than 1,000 miles - when we accomplished our tour we returned to NY (City) the next June after when we found our Army, the enemy  [illegible] in sight of NY we there formed our [illegible] I was in the hottest of the battle and I came off the same night that Genl Washington did - soon after this was orders to raise a company of Rangers of 150. I was one of them as an orderly Sergt etc to Sea back
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May 22 1889
Agreeably to your request of the 14th inst for information of the organization of the Rangers commanded by Col. Knowlton of Conn in the war of the Revolution, many of whom were made prisoners at the Surrender of Fort Washington Nov 16, 1776, with the treatment they endured while in captivity, you will receive herewith enclosed, of so much history as is contained in the application for pension by Josiah Underwood, Hezekiah Wadsworth, David Thorp, Samuel Peck and Enoch Greenwood to which has been added that of two Samuel Phelps
Of the 130 names in the reported list of prisoners, full one half have been examined, including more or less in each of the designated regiments, which was commenced before the receipt of your last communication.

[section illegible or erased]

As so large number of those prisoners died very soon after captivity renders it is hardly probable that a further examination would add to the information now furnished, and to complete it would cause much longer delay
The statement written by David Thorp is one of unusual occurrence in the files of this Bureau.

Prof. H. P. Johnston
17 Lexington Ave
NY City
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[stamp] Old War & Navy
May 17 1889
DIVISION

 17 Lexington Ave.
New York City
May 14, 1889
 
Gen. Jas. B Coit,
Pension Bureau
Washington
D.C 

Dear General:
As I am now 
closing up the Conn. 
Record two matters
or queries occur to me 
which your files may
be able to answer.
1st The name Samuel
Phelps appears on the 
printed pension list of 1820
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both for Conn. and Mass.  do your papers (applications etc) show that were two of same name?  I should much like the record of both if you have them.   viz: where they came from, wives and children, names if given, date of death, age, etc.
2. When I was at Washington last Mr Pryor was looking up the records of some of the Rangers. If he has continued the search I should
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like to have any
material facts he
may have found.
In this case the 
points are:
What service did the 
Rangers render?
Any facts given about 
Col. Knowlton's death?
Any facts respecting
that campaign, 1776
around New York?
I have the substance
of Lt. Babcock's diary
which Mr. Pryor was so
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fortunate as to find.
So time is an object
now any further
search will not be 
requested altho perhaps 
a few hours examination
of the applications
of some of the pensioners might
be worth the while.
I remain yours
very truly
H. P. Johnston