Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 18,173, for John Randall, South Carolina
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S. C. Randall, John S.18173

Carded
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Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 6th April 1838 from 4 March to 4 Sept 1839 Agt notified 30 June 1840.

31 616 Ref'd
South Carolina
John Randall
Edgefield in the State of So Carolina, who was a private in the company - commanded by Captain Ryan - of the - commanded by - in the South Carolina line for 2 years - 

Inscribed on the Roll of South Carolina - at the rate of 80 dollars - Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 26 day of April 1839 and sent to Matthew Gray, Hamburg, So Carolina

Arrears to the 4th of Mar 1839. $640.00
Sem-anl allowance ending 4 Sept - 40 - 

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$680.00

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{Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.}

Recorded by Wm Stuart Clerk
Book E Vol 6 Page 79
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Jan. 10. 1839
John Randall
S.C. 

Act June 7th 1832

Allow pr 2 years
$80 per ann

Matthew Gray 
Hamburg, S. C. } Agent
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In January 1779 I found John Randall in Militia Service under A Williamson Brigadier [?] Cols. LeRoy Hammonds Regt. So Carolina Militia army only as a private in a Company but when in John Hammond or John Carter Companies, I cannot say he continued in service as allso two his brothers George & James, Constantly until the fall of Charlotte May 1780. from that time untill my return in May 1781 I no nothing of him, but on my Return to Carolina about May 1781 I found him again in service with Capt. Carter or Ryan, & part of the time to the Close of the War in a Company formerly commanded by Hatcher then Commanded by John Hammond Junr son of John Hammond Senr. He was active an excellent horseman in the woods & performed some perilous services much spoken of at that time  Whither his was an officer at the time or not I have no document to refer to, or memory of that fact but his first services now on my memory he was a Private soldier. He is now very old, several years older than my self & nod out his memory as my own failing; [illegible] other evidence of his service, he has been allowed a pention [pension] by this State.
S Hammond
Sworn to & sealed  before me, this 26 Dec 1838
M Gray [ ]
South Carolina  Edgefield District}
George Pope  Clerk of the Court of Sessions & Common Pleas in and for the District aforesaid do hereby certify that Matthew Gray is a Justice of the [ilegible] for Edgefield District, and that his acts and  [illegible] as such is entitled to full faith and credit. 
Given under my hand and Seal of Office this 26th Dec 1833
Geo. Pope
[illegible}
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South Caroline   Edgefield District}  on this the nineteenth day of October 1838
personally appeared in open court before the court of Sessions and Common Pleas now sitting for said District his honor John Belton Oneale presiding, John Randall a resident of Edgefield District and State aforesaid aged ninety four years and on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7th 1832. That he entered the Service of the United States under the following named officers, First Captain Leroy Hammond who was afterwards promoted to a Colonel in the South Caroline militia,  [S]Cinquefield, and Captain John Ryan both of whom commanded companys of South Carolina Militia and served as herein after mentioned; That he entered the service as a volunteer under Captain Hammond as declarant thinks some time in the year 1778 and served under him four or five months continuously, engaged chiefly in what is called the Scouting Service, that he was afterwards under the command of Captain [S]Cinquefield, (Captain Hammond being promoted to the rank of a colonel) and served under him for the space of six months,  That he afterwards entered the service again under Captain John Ryan in 1779, who commanded a company of Rangers, that he was in the Stono expedition, and was at the Battle of Stono, which transpired on the twentieth day of June 1779, after the retreat of General
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Lincoln, declarant marched toward Augusta, and was in war and skirmished with the British and [illegible] that he was in first siege of Augusta under Captain Ryan, and also in the last siege of that place which surrendered to Colonel Lee of the legendary troops, and to General Pickens of the South Carolina militia on the 5th day of June 1781. That after the surrender of Augusta, declarant remained with Captain John Ryan's company of Rangers until the close of the war in 1783. This declarant further saith, that he served as a reconnoiter until some time in the year 1782, when he received a first Leutenant's commission in the South Carolina Militia, and served in that capacity to the best of his knowledge under Captain Ryan for a term of at least one year, having lost his commission however he is therefore unable to [illegible] the time. This declarant does not swear to be [illegible] that he served continuously from 1778 to the close of the war, but that he served at intervals, that is whenever called on, making and he thinks in the aggregate a period of service of about three years. He hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension rate of the agency of any State. This declarant further saith that he is wholy unable at present, to procure a certificate from a clergyman in reference to his age, and of his reputed service in the war of the revolution but hopes that the certificate hereunto  duly [illegible], signed by respectable men may be favorably received.
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Int  1st  Where and what year were your born?
Ans   I was born in the State of Virginia in the year 1744.
Int 2   Have you any record of your age?
Ans   I had a record of my age, but have lost it.
Int 3   Where were you living when called into the service, where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
Ans   I lived in Edgefield District, South Carolina when I entered the Service, after the war I lived a portion of my time in Barnwell District and now live in Edgefield District.
In 4th  How were you called into the service, were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute, and if a substitute, for whom?
Ans  I was a volunteer, as before stated.
Int 5    State the names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops when you served, such continental and militia Regiments, as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your service.
Ans.   I knew Gen Lincoln in the Stono Expedition, also Colonel Mayson of the Virginia line who commanded a regiment of Continental troops in that expedition. I also knew Lieutenant Col Lee of the Legionary troops and Col LeRoy Hammond of the South Carolina Militia and also Gen Pickens of the South Carolina Militia.
Int 6th  Did you ever secure a discharge from the service and is so by whom was it given, and what has become of it?
Ans   I never received a discharge from the service, being a volunteer it was unnecessary.
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Int. 7 State the names of persons to whom you  are known in you  present neighborhood , and who can testify as to your character for veracity and their belief of your service as a soldier of the war of the revolution. Ans. A. M. Wade , Robert Anderson, W W Williams, Berry M Rodes and many others, who is  deemed necessary to mention can .. ( illegible ) to these things.  Sworn to  and subscribed by making his mark  the day and year aforesaid. ( his mark X ) John  Randall  John Bolton Wade ( signed ) Pres. Judge  We A. M. Wade and Robert Anderson residing in Edgefield District, hereby certify , that we are well acquainted with  John Randall , who has subscribed and  sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be  ninety four years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to  have been a soldier of the  revolution ,and that we can concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.  A. M. Wade ( signed ) Robert Anderson ( signed ) And the Court do hereby declare their opinion  after the investigation of the matter , and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department , that the above named applicant was  a revolutionary soldier , and served as he states, and the  Court further certifies  that it appears to them  that A. M. Wade & Robert Anderson are credible  persons, and their statements are entitled to credit.  John Bolton ONeall ( signed ) Pres Judge
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[ State of South Carolina Edgefield District ] I George Pope Clerk of the Court of Sessions and Common Pleas in and for the  District aforesaid, do hereby certify that the annexed paper, contains the original proceedings of the  said Court in the matter of the application of John Randal for a  pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and  seal of office this the  27th day of October 1838.  Geo. Pope ( signed / sealed ) C.C. P
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April 8, 1940

BA-J/MCS
John Randall, S.18173

Mrs. Ellis A. Hoffpauir
823 Arlington Street
Jackson, Mississippi

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter of March 4, 1940, addressed to Dr. Philip M. Hamer, The National Archives, this city, and referred to this office for consideration and reply. You desire information relative to Major John Randle, Randall, Randel, Randolf or Randolph, who moved from Roanoke, Virginia, and settled along the Great Pedee River.

The data which follow were taken from papers on file in the pension claim, S.18173, based on the military service of John Randall, the only soldier of this name, searched under all spellings, who lived in Virginia and South Carolina that is found in the Revolutionary War records of this office.

John Randall was born in Virginia in 1744. The exact place of birth and date of birth of John Randall are not shown nor are the names of his parents given.

While a resident of Edgefield District, South Carolina, John Randall enlisted in 1778 and served at various times until sometime in 1783, amounting to about three years in all, as private and first lieutenant with the South Carolina troops under Captains Leroy Hammond, Cinquefield, John Hammond, Jr., and John Ryan; his service as first lieutenant commenced in 1782 under Captain John Ryan and lasted at least a year. He was in the first siege of Augusta, in the battle of Stono, and in the last siege of Augusta.

For a while after the close of the Revolution, John Randall lived in Barnwell District, South Carolina.

John Randall was allowed pension on his application executed October 19, 1838, at which time he was living in Edgefield District, South Carolina.
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It was stated that John Randall's brothers, George and John, also served in the Revolutionary War. There are not further data relative to family.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension of John Randall, the name and address of the person to whom it was paid and possibly the date of death of this soldier, it is suggested that you address The Comptroller General, Records Division, General Accounting Office, Washington, D.C., giving the following data:

John Randall, Certificate #31616, issued April 25, 1839, rate $80 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, South Carolina Aency.

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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( left page ) P ( underscored ) 18173  File No. 18173 John Randall Pri Rev. War Act June 7th '32  Index: - Vol. 1 Page 310 [ Arrangement of 1870. ] ( right page ) 1914 Nov 20 . Hist. to Nellie B. Hadson  1918 Dec. 2. Aud. Int . given data to ascertain  date of last pay -  merit, etc. an  1925 Feb. 6 - Hist. to Mrs. T.W. Menefee Mrs ..( illegible ) 1940 Apr. 8 , hist . to Mrs. Ellis A. Hoff pauir NiCS
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Treasury Department
Second comptroller's Office
June 22, 1840
Sir,
Under the act of the 6th of April 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States, "John Randall, a Pensioner on the roll of the So Carolina Agency, at the rate if eighty dollars and 00 cents per annum, under law of the law of the 7th June 1832, has been paid at his Department from the 4th of March to the 4th Sept 1839.

Respectfully yours,
Albion K Parris
Comptroller

To the Commissioner of Pensions, Present
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John Randall
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From margins of [illegible Book, S N 633
[illegible] the 23rd of June 1785 to Mr. John Randall for fifteen pounds eight shillings and six pence, [illegible] sterling for duty [illegible] in the militia as [illegible] and condition L15 S6 3/4 annual [illegible] L1.1.7
N64
Endorsement on account No [illegible]
John Randall's account of militia duty as private since the Revolution of the [illegible]L108._._
633.S
[illegible] L15.8.6b 3/4
Dr to John Randall for duty [illegible] return L108.0.0stg l15.8.6 3/4
Comptrollers office, Columbia, So Car
December 6 to 1838.  I certify the foregoing to be true copies of the original copies in this office.
Wm Ed  Jayne
Comptroller
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The National Archives
Form K-8
(Rev. 11-21-38) 
Division of Reference

Referral Slip
Date March 11, 1940

Inquiry from:
Mrs. Ellis A. Hoffpauir
823 Arlington Street
Jackson, Mississippi
Date:  March 4, 1940
Subject:  Information concerning Major John Randle, a veteran of the Revolutionary War.
Respectfully referred to:
Veterans Administration
Washington DC
and the writer so informed

P M Hamer,
Chief Division of Reference
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St. Anthony Hotel
San Antonio, Texas
Jan. 11th, 1925

Bureau of Pensions
Washington, DC
Gentlemen:
Can you furnish me with official proof of pension granted to John Randle for services during the Revolutionary War?  His residence at date of enlistment and application for pension was Edgefield District, South Carolina.  Application for pension allowed Oct. 14th, 1838.
He enlisted in 1778.  Served 3 years as a private and 1st Lt. serving with such distinction he acquired the title of Major.  He served under the following Captains, Leroy Hammond Ringfield, John Ryan and John Hammond Jr.
Very truly yours,
Ms. T W Menefee
Mrs T W Menefee
address:
Mrs.T W Menefee
St. Anthony Hotel
San Antonio, Texas
date stamped:
U S Pension Office
Jan 14, 1925
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Rev Svc
Pine Bluff Arkansas
Nov 2 1914

Commissioner of Pensions
Washington DC

Dear Sir:
In reference to the data necessary to secure a copy of the record of the pensioner John Randle Randall.  I know that he married Mollie Ware, that he left Roanoke and settled on the Pedee River in South Carolina.  His daughter Amy married
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Thomas Blessitt of North  and Thomas Blessitt was born 1754, I hope that this is sufficient data and am very anxious to have his record.
Have you a record of Isaac Greene of Rhode Island? He married Mary Weaver of Coventry, Kent Co.  Isaac was born 11-6-1724.  He was a corporal.  I should like to have his record.
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Jullie Brian Hudson
1802 Main Street
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date stamped

U S Pension Office
Nov 16 1914
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JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI
March 4,1940.

The Adjutant General's Office,
War Department,
Washington, D.C.

Sirs:
Will you kindly inform me what record, if any, the War Department has relating to Major John Randle (or Randall, Randel, Randolf, Randolph)  who, according to tradition of my family, saw service in the Revolutionary War after having moved from Roanoke, Virginia and settled along the Great Pedee River in North Carolina.

I shall greatly appreciate any information that you may be able to furnish me concerning Major Randle.

Respectfully yours,

Mrs. Ellis A. Hoffpauir
823 Arlington Street,
Jackson, Mississippi.

[Circle Stamp] [Illegible]

[Handwritten Bottom Right] B9002
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JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI
March 4,1940

Dr. Philip M. Hamer, Chief,
Division of Reference,
The National Archives,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:

At the kind suggestion of Dr. W.D.McCain, Chief of our Mississippi State Department of Archives and History, I am sending you a copy of the letter which I have written to the War Department inquiring concerning the war record of one of my ancestors.

Dr. McCain told me that you might be able to help in this matter. I dislike to impose upon you but shall appreciate anything that you may do for me.

Yours very respectfully,
Edith J. Hoffpauir

Mrs. Ellis A.Hoffpauir
823 Arlington Street,
Jackson, Mississippi.

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REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION.  3-525 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF PENSIONS Washington  ,D. C.   19__ In reply to your request of ___ , received ___ for a statement  of the military history of John Randall a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information  as contained in his ( or his widow's ) application for pension on file in this Bureau. DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  1778 . LENGTH OF SERVICE. served at various time 3 years . RANK. Pvt and 1st Lieut. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN.  Leroy Hammond , Cinquefield, John Ryan , John Hammond , Jr. STATE. SC. Battles engaged in, 1st and last siege of Augusta , Stono. Residence of soldier at enlistment, Edgefield Dist. S.C. Date  of application for pension, Oct. 19 1838 . His cl . was al. Residence at  date of application, Edgefield Dist. SC. Age at date of application, born in Virginia 1744 Remarks : Had brothers George & James.
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29002 [Space] MAR 1 1 1940

Mrs. Ellis A. Hoffpauir
825 Arlington Street
Jackson, Mississippi

My dear Mrs. Hoffpauir:

This is in reply to your letter of March 4, 1940, requesting information concerning Major John, Randle, a veteran of the Revolutionary War.

If Major Randle received a pension based upon his service in the Revolution, his pension record may contain genealogical data concerning him. The records relating to Revolutionary War pensions are in the custody of the Veterans' Administration, Washington, D. C., and we are therefore referring your request to that office for consideration and reply.

It is hoped that The National Archives can be of greater assistance to you at some future time.

Very truly yours,

V. G. Setser, Acting Chief,
Division of Reference.

Ea/w
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Rev. War Section.

Dec. 9, 1--6.

The Auditor for the
Interior Department,
Washington, D.C.

Sir:

Herewith is returned the letter of Nellie B. Hudson of Pine Bluff, Ark. (which was forwarded to this Bureau by you on the 29" ultimo,) relative to the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Randall, South Carolina Troops. S. File 18173.

He was pensioned under Stf. 31.616, which issued Apr. 26, 1839, rate $80 per annum, commencing Mar. 4, 1931, Act of June 7, 1838, South Carolina Agency.

The history of this soldier was furninshed Nellie B. Hudson on Nov. 30, 1914.

The above noted, is the only John Randall, S.C. Troops, found on the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau.

Very respectfully,

GM S-------
Commissioner.
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Rev. and 1812 Wars Section

February 6, 1925

Mrs. T. W. Menefee
St. Anthony Hotel
San Antonio, Texas

Madam:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 18173 it appears that John Randall was born in Virginia in 1744.
While a resident of Edgefield District, South Carolina he enlisted in 1778, served at various times until in 1783, three years in all, as a private and First Lieutenant under Captaine Lercy Hammond,  Cinquefield, John Hammon, Jr. and John Ryan in the South Carolina Troops and was at the first and last siege of Augusta and at the battle of Stono.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 19, 1838 while residing in Edgefield District, South Carolina.
It is not stated whether he was ever married.

Respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.

[Handwritten] Date of death [Illegible] on AB