Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4399, James Guy, N.C.
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SERVICE: N.C.
Guy, James
Sarah

NUMBER: R4399

CONTENTS
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23.331
North Carolina
James Guy
of Cumberland in the State of North Carolina
who was a private in the commanded
by Captain ..... of the Regmt commanded
by Col Pickins in the N. Carolina
line for 6 months-

Inscribed on the Roll of N. Carolina
at the rate of 20. Dollars - Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 6th day of Jan 1834
McKay HR and Just Hon J. J.

Arrears to the 4th of Sep 1833   50
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Mar 34 10
60

{Revolutionary Claim,}
{Act June 7, 1832.}

Recorded by Nath Rice Clerk,
Book E Vol 6 1/2 Page 56
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State of North Carolina}
Cumberland County}
This day Theophilus Gay of the County of Cumberland Maketh Oath that he is well acquainted with James Guy an applicant for a Pension under the act of Congress passed 7th June 1832. that he knows said James Guy was in the service of the United States during the Revolutionary War under Captain James Love & Wm Kenan. though affiant does not know the length of time he served under them respectively. affiant is sixty four years of age. 
Sworn to & subscribed
before me this 7th December 1833 Theophilus Guy
Joshua Jessop J.P.

I Joshua Jessop the Justice aforesaid certify that I am well acquainted with Theophilus Guy who has sworn to & subscribed the foregoing affidavit that he is a credible witness and I believe him to be sixty four years of age 
Given under my hand & seal this
7th December 1833
Joshua Jessop JP {seal}
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State of North Carolina}
Cumberland County}
Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions December Term 1833
On this 6th day of December 1833 personally appeared in open Court before said Court now sitting James Guy a resident of said County who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed 7th June 1832 that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. He entered the service early in the spring of the year 1780 in a company of volunteer Light Horse under the command of Captain James Wright this was in the County of Duplin in this state he volunteered at this time for twelve months but he served only eight months. He was discharged early in the winter following this Company was attached to Col Dicksons Regiment of Militia. Immediately after my discharge in the month of December 1780 I entered the service for a low of three months in a company of Light horse commanded by Capt James Love of which Warren Blount was lieutenent that from Duplin County where he entered the service he was marched to South Carolina and Camden from
there he was marched to Guilford North Carolina but was not in the battle, an express having arrived that Col Craig of the English Army had attacked & taken to Town of Wilmington General Lillington was dispatched with his troops to that place to protect the surrounding
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County from their depredations Capt Love be attached to General Lillingtons Brigade was also marched to that neighbourhood. the day before we left Guilford this Declarant & Six others took a double fortified six pounded (Brass) which had been thrown into a creek by the British for want of a carriage & carried it within the American lines. that after his arrival in the neighbourhood of Wilmington our troops had a battle with the British under the command of Craig & were defeated by them. [illegible] after this battle Capt Love was killed at a house in the neighbourhood he being suprised by a party of the Brittish in the Battle which we fought Col Brown of the militia was wounded he was discharged in March or February following by Genl Lillington. After serving out his tour aforesaid immediately on his return home to the County of Duplin there being a call for men he again entered the service in the month of March 1781 in a company of Volunteers Light Horse commanded by Capt. William Kenan for a tour of three months was marched from Duplin County to the Town of Wilmington where they were stationed for three months except two weeks during this service Genl Lillington had the office command of the troops stationed at Wilmington. who discharged the Declarant in the latter part of the Summer 1781 he again entered the service as a volunteer Light Horseman under the Command of Capt Page who was under Major Molton in the County of Duplin from where we were marched to the County of Sampson in pursuit of
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the tories. we had a fight with them at old Capt Williams when we took seven personers who we cornered to a prison in Duplin County called the Bull Pen and confined them. he believes he served during this service two weeks. after which he was discharged He would here remark that during his served times above set forth he furnished his own horse. that he served as orderly Sargeant under Capt Love and Kenan that in his other services he was only a private soldier.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a Pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any State.
James his X mark Guy
Sworn to & subscribed the
day & year aforesaid
Test. A.McLean Jr. Clk

The following answers were returned to the Interrogatories directed to be put by the War Department
1 I was born in the County of Duplin this State on the 19th day of February 1761.
2 I have not.
3 I was living in the County of Duplin. Since the war I lived in that county fifteen years since which time I have lived in the County of Cumberland where
I now reside
4 I voluntered
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5 I recollect Genl Green Col Wm Washington of the Light Horses Capt Coleman Lt. Becoats. I have already statesd the circumstances of my service as well as I can recollect
6 I did but have lost them I have also stated from whom I received them
7 I would refer to Enoch Jarrott, Theophile Guy the Revd W. Depoe

We John Depoe a Clergyman residing in the County of Cumberland and Joshua Taylor unding in the same County hereby certify that we are well acquainted with James Guy who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration and that we believe him to be seventy two years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of Revolution and we concur in that opinion

Sworn to & subscribed the day John Depoe
and year aforesaid Joshua Taylor
Test
A. McLean Jr. Clk.

And the said James Guy affixed the evidence of Theophilus Guy taken in writing before Joshua Jessop Esqr one of the Justices of the Peace in & for Cumberland County & a member of this court in support of his Declaration for a Pension.
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And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the Interrogators presented by the War Department that the above named James Guy applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Jno Depoe who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the County of Cumberland and that Joshua Taylor who has also signed the same is a resident of said County and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
Esek Arnold JP.
Joshua Jessop JP.
Malm M Colman J.P.
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State of North Carolina} Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions
Cumberland County} December Term 1833
I Archibald McLean Junr Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions aforesaid do hereby certify that that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of James Guy for a Pension
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and
Seal of Office this 9th day December A.D. 1833.-
A. McLean Jr Clk

Jany 4 1834
As agent in behalf of the applicant I agree to accept a certificate for 6 months service
Jas J McKay
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December 1, 1937
James Guy
R. 4399
Mr. N. D. Guy, Postmaster    RA-J/AWF
Bradford
Tennessee

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of James Guy, who as shown by a newspaper clipping enclosed by you, was a pensioner.

Only one claim for pension has been found based upon service in the Revolutionary War of a James Guy. That record follows as found in claim for pension, R. 4399

James Guy was born February 19, 1761 in Duplin County, North Carolina. The names of his parents were not stated.

While residing in said Duplin County, James Guy enlisted and served with the North Carolina troops, as follows:
From the spring of 1780, eight months as private in Captain James Wright's company of Light Horse in Colonel Dickinson's regiment; from sometime in December, 1780, three months as orderly sergeant in Captain James Love's company of Light Horse, was in an engagement near Wilmington; from sometime in March, 1781, three months as orderly sergeant in Captain William Kenan's company of Light Horse; in the summer of 1781, two weeks as private in Captain Page's company of Light Horse, under Major Molton in pursuit of Tories, had an engagement at 'old Captain Williams' captured seven prisoners and carried them to the "Bull Pen".

He was allowed pension on his application executed
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December 6, 1833, at which he was a resident of Cumberland County, North Carolina.

The soldier, James Guy, died in said Cumberland County, February 16, 1837. His widow, Sara, died September 28, 1837; her maiden name was not given, nor are there any details as to their marriage, other than the statement that they were married prior to 1800.

Their only child on March 8, 1855 was Nancy Coleman, who was then about seventy years of age and in Cumberland County, North Carolina.

Theophilus Guy was a resident of Cumberland County, North Carolina in 1833 and then aged sixty-four years, he [[crossed out]] stated that he was well acquainted with the soldier. In 1855, John and Alexander Guy were both residents of Cumberland County. It was not shown that the above named persons were related to the family of the soldier or were related to each other. 

There is no charge made for furnishing this report.

Your newspaper clipping is returned herewith.

Very truly yours

A.D. Hiller
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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April 10, 1934
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

BA-J/AWF

Mr. George R. Lewis
Pendleton
Oregon

Dear Sir;

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolution War records of James and William Guy, from North Carolina. 
written in margin: W. 17969 
You are furnished herewith their records as found in pension claims, based upon service in the War of the Revolution. 

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Assistant to the Administrator
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April 10, 1934
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
James Guy-R. 4399
BA-J/AWF

Mr. George R. Lewis
Pendleton
Oregon

Dear Sir:

The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, R. 4399, based upon the Revolutionary War service of James Guy.

He was born February 19, 1761 in Duplin County, North Carolina; names of his parents not stated. 

While residing in said Duplin County, James Guy enlisted and served with the North Carolina troops, as follows:

From the spring of 1780, eight months as a private in Captain James Wright's company of Light Horse, Colonel Dickson's regiment; from December, 1780, three months as orderly sergeant in Captain James Love's company of Light Horse, was in an engagement near Wilmington; from March, 1781, three months as orderly sergeant in Captain William Kenan's company of Light Horse; in the summer of 1781, two weeks as private in Captain Page's company of Light Horse, under Major Molton in pursuit of Tories, had an engagement at old Captain Williams captured seven prisoners and carried them to the "Bull Pen".

James Guy was allowed pension on his application executed, December 6, 1833, then a resident of Cumberland County, North Carolina. He died in Cumberland County, February 16, 1837. His widow, Sarah, died September 28, 1847; her maiden name is not given, nor are there any details as to their marriage, only statement
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made was that they were married prior to 1800.

Their only surviving child in 1855 was Nancy Coleman, who then was about seventy years of age and in Cumberland County, North Carolina.

Theophilus Guy was a resident of Cumberland County, North Carolina in 1833 and then aged sixty-four years; in 1855 John and Alexander Guy were both residents of Cumberland County, North Carolina. It was not shown that the above named persons were related to each other or were related to the family of the soldier, James Guy

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator
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Copy of Newspaper Clipping referred to in letter of N.D. Guy of Oct 29, 1937. Bradford, Tenn., which was returned to Mr. N.D.G.
Nov. 1937: "J.M.G. Marion, Ark;" my grandfather, James Guy, went to Obion County in 1831. My father had four brothers and four sisters, William Jr., John L., and A.L., the latter born March 19, 1850. They came from Pendleton District, S.C. My grandfather was a Lyn or Lynn. I want to know whether or not any of them were in the Revolutionary War".
"Answer: We locate one Samuel Guy in the first census, 1790, of South Carolina heads of families and one James Gay in Charleston District, St. Phillips and S. Michael's Parish, but no mention is available military records of that state. In North Carolina
the record covering the Revolutionary period we locate Benjamin, James and William Guy with Revolutionary war records. James Guy was a pensioner and we suggest that a copy of his application in the Pension Office at Washington should give the family record. There is a small fee charged for such copy".
(Copied Nov 30, 1937 by [illegible])
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OFFICE NO. 57624 THIRD CLASS
United States Just Office
BRADFORD, TENN.
N. D. GUY, POSTMASTER
J. C. BOONE, ASSISTANT

Oct. 29th 1937

U. S. Pension Division of Revolutionary War soldiers

Dear Sirs:

I am enclosing a newspaper clipping that was in answer to my fathers letter written to the Comercial Appeal news paper of Memphis, Tenn. You will note that one James Guy was a pensioner and we want, that a copy of his family record. Will you please advise me the cost of this copy or send it to me G.O.D.
My father has died since then and we are very anxious to carry on the work he started.

Yours very truly,
no signater?

Stamped:
RECEIVED
NOV 1 1937
MAIL SUM-DIV
VETS. ADM. 
READER #30
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GEORGE R. LEWIS
ATTORNEY AND COUNSELOR AT LAW
PENDLETON, OREGON

Mar. 26, 1934

Veterans Administration
Washington, D.C.

Gentlemen:
William Guy and James Guy were soldiers in the Revolutionary War from North Carolina, and William Guy received a pension, Perhaps, James also. I am anxious to get the record or date in their applications,
Thanking you, I am
Yours very truly
George R Lewis
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Left side:

1934 - April 10 hist
to George R Lewis [illegible]

REJECTED - stamped
4399.

P.O. Sarah Guy
Service: ...

Enlisted:..., 18
Discharged:...., 18

Application filed:...., 18
application made too late for printed list of 1852
Alleges:
Re-enlisted:....

Attorney:....
P.O.....

....Recognized. ......Contract.
.... Cert. of Dis. Searched for...., 18
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No. 8123
Sarah Guy decd
widow of James
N.C.


4399
Act 4th July 1836.
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NORTH CAROLINA PENSION
AND BOUNTY LAND AGENCY,
Fayetteville, N.C.
Pension and Bounty Land Claims Presented.
No charge unless money or land is recovered.
Pension money collected from the U.S. Agency at
This place. Blanks furnished
CASH PAID FOR LAND WARRANTS.
JNO.N. ROSE.

Stamped:
FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.
MAR
1

Hon L.P. Waldo
Comr of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

James Guy
N.C. 1832

FREE
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JNO M. ROZE
PENSION & BOUNTY LAND
AGENT
FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.
Cash paid for Land Warrants

Stamped:
FAYETTEVILLE N.C.
MAR 24

Hon L. P. Waldo
Comr of Pensions
Washington DC

vertical:
Sarah Guy
Jas_ N.C, [illegible] 1836

FREE
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March 30 / 33.
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In margin:
J. M. Rose Esqr
Fayetteville
N.C.


Pension Office
March 30, 1853.

Sir,
I have received and considered your letter of the 21st instant in relation to the claim of the only child of Sarah Guy decd who was the widow of James Guy, a revolutionary pensioner.
The only act under which this claim could fall is the act of 4th July 1836. This act requires the marriage to have taken place before the termination of the husband's service. The service for which James Guy was pensioned was performed in 1780 Even if the present claimant should be shown to be now 70 years old, (which has not as yet been done) it would by no means follow that the marriage took place before the husband left the service.
The date of the widow's death must also be shown with exactness-- otherwise it would be impossible to adjust the amount (however small) which would be owe. The claim is further suspended. Respectfully
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Jno M Rose
March 14/35
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Pension Office.
14th March 1855.
Sir,
The application of Sarah Guy decd of North Carolina has been received
and filed under Act 4th July 1836.
I would inform you that it is necessary to prove that James and Sarah were married before the last period of James' Service, before a pension can be granted under the above act. How many children did Sarah leave? The dates of the death of James and herself must be proved by witnesses who can refer to particular events by which to test the accuracy of their recollection.
John M. Rose Esq
Fayetteville,
N.C.
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Fay,
Fayetteville NC
21st Mch / 55

Hon L P Waldo
Your letter of 14 in relation to the claim of the only child of Sarah Guy Decd Widow of James Guy Decd late a United States Pensioner a to have _ It is a charity case of mine, the amount which hardly a dozen Dolls that
I cannot expend much time on it-- I dont expect any pay
I thought I had sufficially indentified the marriage as before the last period of Service, because it proves the daughter is on 70 years of age- As the is the only child Sarah left & I can establish by John Guy one of the witnesses the death exactly because it in the year in which he married his own wife
I had a letter today, from the 3rd Auditors office allowing to Nancy Coleman - $7 10/100 being the marriage of James Guy from his last during from the
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Pension office at Fayetteville to the date of his death as proven by our declaration affadavits as it is admitted in one office, the whole amount in both the 3rd auditors & Pension office cannot reach $20 & as the Nancy Coleman is 70 years old, the only living child of a Revy Soldier - is about a pauper in the county & dependent upon the charity of her neighbors. & as I am acting for her witness proof. I do sincerely hope you will not apply the Antiquated rules of the department to her case.

Your &c
J.M. Rose


1780
70
1850
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Fayetteville March 10 1855

Hon L P Waldo
I enclose declaration of Nancy Coleman, only child of James Guy & Sarah Guy Decd. I presume all right

Jno M Rose
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Revolutionary War
Declaration of
Nancy Coleman
only child
James Guy &
Sarah Guy
Decd


Filed by
Jno M Rose
Fayetteville
N C
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State of North Carolina} Court of Pleas & Quarter
Cumberland Co} Sessions March 7 1855
Personally appeared in Open Court this 8 day of March 1855 Nancy Coleman only child of Sarah Guy who was the widow of James Guy Decd who was a Pensioner of the United States at the rate of Twenty Dolls per annum died on the 16 day of Feb 1837 in Cumberland Co NC. & made oath that her mother Sarah Guy was the widow of James Guy Decd the pension above named that her said mother died on the 28 Sept 1837. that she continued a widow from the date of said James Guy (the father of said Nancy Coleman,) until the death of said Sarah Guy as above mentioned-- that she makes this declaration to procure the Pension due to said Sarah Gay as widow of her said father James Guy from the time the same ought to commence until the death of said Sarah Guy on the 28 Sept 1837, that she now about 70 years of age. & living with her father and mother prior to 1800 - Nancy her X mark Coleman
Sworn to in open Court
J McLaurin Clk
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State of No Carolina} Court of Pleas & Quarter
Cumberland Co. } Sessions Mch 7 1854
John Guy & Alex Guy Resident of Cumberland Co & disinterested witnesses maketh oath that they well knew Sarah Guy in her lifetime & that she was the widow of James Guy Decd who was a Pensioner of the United States, at the rate of Twenty Dolls pr annum that during the lifetime of James & Sarah Guy did live together as man & wife were so acknowledged by the Public 
Generally, that James Guy died on 16 Feb 1837 & that Sarah Guy his widow lived until the 28 Sept 1837, that Nancy Coleman is now abt 70 years of age, that when Jas Guy died he was about 76 years of age, & they always [illegible] try [illegible] [illegible] prior to 1800 & from Nancy Coleman age it must be so
Sworn to in open Court  Jno his X mark Guy Alex his X mark Guy
8 March 1855
J M Laurin Clerk
deed
Joseph Arey JP Clerk
Co. Court
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State of North Carolina} Court of Quarter
Cumberland County} Sessions March 7, 1853

I Jno McLaurin Clerk of the Court of Pleas & quarter sessions do certify that it was made to appear to said Court at March 7th 1855 by the oath of John Guy & Alexander Guy, that Sarah Guy widow of Jms Guy Decd died on the 28 Sept 1837 & that Nancy Coleman as her only child & I certify that John Guy and Alex. Guy are reliable witnesses & I are residents of this Co & I certify the Signature of Jos Arey is genuine. Gave under my hand there of
office this 8 March 1855
J McLaurin CC