Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 42572, John C Van Sice, New York
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SERVICE 
New York 

Van Sice, John C. 

NUMBER 
S. 42572 

CONTENTS
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Pennsylvania 
A  591 
John C. Van Sice 
Van Sice 
in the State of [blank] as a Private in the [blank] commanded by Captain [blank] of the [blank] commanded by Col Van Schaick NY 

Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 80 Dollars -- Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831 

[Note: part of page missing]
…ate of Pension issued the [blank] day of [blank] and [blank]

… 4th of [blank] 
allowance ending [blank]
{Revolutionary Claim,}
[Recorded]… by [blank] Clerk,
[Book]...  Vol.  Page

Act 15 May ‘28 -
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Application for transfer
Lett John D. Watkins Mar 3:37
Transp? fr. Alby to N, York from 3: Sepr. ’36 – Mar 21 ‘37
[illegible] March 10: ‘37
Lett. Jno. D. Watkins Mar 29 ’37
Lett to Hon J. E. Carey & Cer to Pension agt. 5 Jany 1844.
To Albany from 3 March 1843 26 Jany 1844. Notification to Hon J. E. Carey Ho of Reps
Cer to Pe Agt 9 March 1847.
To Pennsylvania from 4 Sep 1846. – March 15 1847, Notification to Hon D. Wilmot, Torrance Penna
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J.C. Van Sice, 
recd. 31 July 1828 
ackd. 15 Aug.
W. J.
#42.572
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Free  Free
Hon. Richard Rush 
Secy of the Treasury 
Washington City.

Delhi N.Y. July 2.
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To the Secy. of Treasy.
Sir
Be pleased to send the answs. in the enclosed case of R. Wright Esq.  P.M. Unadilla, N.Y.
Your obdt. & humble servt.
[signed] J. R. Hobbins 
Delhi N.Y. July 25 1828
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Del [Delaware] County ss We Lewis Scofield and Seneca Olmsted being duly sworn do depose and say that the within named John C Vansice is generally reputed and believed to be a soldier of the Revolution. 
[signed] Lewis Scofield  Seneca Olmsted
Sworn & Subscribed this 22d day of July 1828 Before me 
[signed] Samuel Baldwin - Justice of the Peace 

I John E. Bushand Clerk of the Court of the County of Delaware in the State of New York do certify that Samuel Baldwin before whom the foregoing affidavits were sworn, was at the time a Justice of the peace in and for said County of Delaware and duly empowered to administer Oaths 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said Court this 25th day of July 1828 
[signed] J. E Bushand [or Buchard]
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For the purpose of obtaining the benefit of an act entitled “an act for the relief of certain surviving officers & soldiers of the army of the revolution approved on the 15 May 1828 – I John C Vansice of the Town of Masonville in the County of Delaware in the State of New York do hereby declare that I was a soldier in the continental line of the army of the Revolution and that I enlisted as such in the month of July 1776 at Albany under Capt. Aaron Austin in Col. Peter Gansvoorts Regiment, and that I served as such enlisted Soldier until the end of the war, and was duly discharged at Fort Washington, That at the time of my discharge I was attached to the Company of Capt. Sise or Cise in the Regiment of Col. Van *Schaick.
[signed] John C Vancise
Masonville  21 July 1828

* VanSchaick
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705. 
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIMS. 
No. of Original payt 543 
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
Augt 15. 1828. 
John C. Van Sice of Masonville in the County of Delaware in the State of New York has applied to the Secretary of the Treasury for the benefits of the act, entitled "An Act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the Revolution," approved the 15th of May, 1828. He states that he enlisted in the Continental line of the army of the Revolution, for and during the war, and continued until its termination, at which period he was a private in Captain [blank’s] company, in the Col Van Schaick’s regiment of the New York line; and that he received a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars, provided by the resolve of the 15th of May, 1778; and further, that he was not on the 15th day of May, 1828, on the pension list of the United States, and that he has received as a pensioner since the 3d of March, 1826, nothing 
The Third Auditor is requested to report how far the several statements are corroborated by the records in his office. 
By order of the Secretary
[signed] A. Dickins.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT, 
THIRD AUDITOR'S OFFICE, 
23 August 1828 
It appears by the records in this office, that a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars has been issued to John Van Sice in the New York line 
It further appears that John Van Sice is not now on the pension list of any agency, and has not been so since the 3 March 1826
[signed] Peter Hagner Aud 
See #42,572 Adt [illegible]
OK
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Allowed
Act 1828.
[illegible]
No. 65,353 -
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State of New York 
Otsego County } ss
On this 26th day of June 1843 before the subscriber a Justice of the Peace for the said County of Otsego personally appeared John C Van Sice who on his Oath declares that he is the same John C Van Sice who formerly belonged to the company commanded by Captain Sise in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Van Scaick [Schaick] New York line in the service of the United States - that his name was placed on the Pension Roll of the State of New York and made payable at Albany, that he was transfered from Albany [illegible] by moving from Delaware County to Sulivan [Sullivan] County, New York, that he has since moved back from Sulivan County to his former residence in Delaware County State of New York where he intends to remain and wishes his pension to be there payable in future at the agency in Albany - the following are his reasons for returning from Sulivan County to Delaware County (Viz) his wife was taken sick and Died and left him without friends there, that he has made arrangements with his son who lives in Masonville Delaware County to live with him during the remainder of his Life – 
[signed] John C Van Sice
Sworn & Subscribed before me at Unadilla
[signed] Sheldon Griswold J. Peace 

State of New York 
Otsego County } ss
On this 26th day of June 1843 before me the Subscriber a Justice of the Peace for the said County of Otsego personally appeared Abiel D Williams who on his Oath declares that he has been personally acquainted with John C Van Sice & knows him to be the identical John C Van Sice who is a Pensioner of the United States as above described –
[signed] Abiel D Williams
Sworn & Subscribed before me at Unadilla
[signed] Sheldon Griswold J. Peace
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I certify that I am personally well acquainted with Abiel Williams who subscribed to the foregoing affidavit & that he is a person of respectable Standing in the Community 
dated Unadilla, Otsego County this 26 day of June 1843 
[signed] Sheldon Griswold J. Peace 

State of New York 
Otsego County ss } I Samuel Russell Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Sheldon Griswold Esq before whom the foregoing affidavit purports to have been Sworn was on the date of the same a Justice of the peace in and for said County duly elected and qualified And further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of said Justice and verily believe his Signatures subscribed to the within Jurat and the above certificate to be genuine 
Witness my hand & Seal of office this 18th day of July AD 1843 
[signed] Samuel Russell Clerk.
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In reply to your request of ___ received ___ for a statement of the military history of John C. Van Sice a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his application for pension on file in this Bureau.   S. File 42.572

[BEGIN TABLE]
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  |   LENGTH OF SERVICE.   |   RANK.   |  OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN.   |   COLONEL.   |   STATE.  |
July 1776  |  [check]  |  [check]  |  Aaron Aorson  |  Peter Gansevoort  |  N.Y.  |
Discharged at end of War at Fort Washington  |    |    |  Sytes  |  Van Schaick  |    |
[END TABLE]

Battles engaged in, none stated.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Enl. At Albany, N.Y.
Date of application for pension, July 21, 1828.
Residence at date of application, Masonville, Delaware Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, not stated.
Remarks: His claim was allowed. In 1837 he resided in Rockland, Sullivan Co. N. Y.; in 1843 he stated that as his wife ___ had died he returned to Masonville to live with a son ___; in 1846 he resided at Sheshequin, Pa. with children - names of wife and children not stated
Very Respectfully, 
Commissioner.

6-2856
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Athens, Penna. 
April 22, 1912 
Commissioner of Pensions, 
Washington, D.C. 
Dear Sir: 
Am writing to learn the requirement in which John Cornelius Van Sice served in the Revolution. He was from New York State, enlisting from Schoharie, N.Y. or thereabouts.
Drew a pension after the war at which time he lived in Sheshequin, Penna.
Hoping you will be able to furnish the information and thanking you for your trouble.
I am yours truly 
Eugene Van Sice 
216 Ann St.
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42572 
INVALID. Revy
File No. 42,572
John B. VanSice   Van Sice
Pri Rev War

Act: 18 March 18 
Index: -- Vol. 3 , Page 528
{Arrangement of 1870.} 

1912 Apl. 27. History to Eugene Van Sice ¢
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Liberty March 21. 1837 
To the Hon J L Edwards Com of Pensions 
Yours of the 9th March respecting the transferring of the payment of John C Van Cize Pension has been recd and I herewith transmit to you the necessary papers in regard to it - If you have a blank power of attorney to draw a pension for Pensioner under the act approved 28 May 1828 and will transmit it to me with the other necessary information of the transfer you will confer a favor on the pensioner as there are no blanks nearer than New York City a distance of 150 miles 
I have the honor to be 
With great respect 
Your mo obt. Servt
[signed] Jno D Watkins
PS. I sent a copy of the pension certificate in the former communication to the Secretary at War- JDW
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Honl
J. L. Edwards
Comr &c:
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Washington Jun 26 - 1843- 
Honl. J. L. Edwards 
Commissioner of Pensions 
Sir 
I submit for your consideration & such action as the nature of the case requires & you deem proper; the enclosed letter and will be obliged if you will communicated to me the result of your consideration thereof 
Very Respectfully 
Your Obt Sert 
[signed] J. E. Cary
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MECHANICS’ & FARMERS' BANK. 
Albany Pension Agency, 
March 12. 1847 
JAMES L. EDWARDS, Esquire, 
Commissioner of Pensions. 
Sir, 
In reply to your letter of the 9th inst I have to state, that John C. Van Sice a Pensioner under the Act of 15 May 1828 at 80 Dollars per annum was last paid to the 4 day of Sept 1846 
I am, Sir, 
Very Respectfully, 
Your ob’t serv’t, 
[signed] Thos W Olcott 
PRES’T AND PENSION AGENT per L Jenkins.
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New York City Pension Agency 
January 8. 1844 
Sir
In reply to your letter of the 5th instant, desiring to be informed to what time John C. Van Sice was last paid, a pensioner under Act 15 May 1828. I have to state that he has been paid to 3d March, 1843.
Very respectfully 
Your obtdient Servant
[signed] Jno A.Stevens, Pens Aud
By Jessie M. Irving

J L Edwards Esq 
Commissioner of Pensions 
Washington City
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Unadilla Otsego Co. N.Y. 
Sept 11th 1843 
Hon J. L. Edwards 
Comr of Pensions 
Sir 
Some six weeks since I forwarded to the Pension Office an application of John C Vansice of Masonville, Delaware Co. N.Y. to have his pension payable in Albany instead of New York he having removed from Sulivan County to Delaware County - as no notice in relation to it has been received I fear the application has miscarried or been overlooked as he is entitled to six months pay on the 4th of this month he is anxious to hear from it 
please address either him or myself at this place 
Very Respectfully 
Your obt Servt
[signed] A. D. Williams
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Hon J L Edwards 
Sir 
In Enclosing to you the within Application for transfer of place of paying Pension I take the liberty of explaining the mutilation on the face of it under the seal & trust such explanation will prevent its return for renewal as the Pensioner is feeble in health and it requires considerable trouble to do the work over again on his part & the County Clerk is forty miles from this place with but few opportunities of sending to him except by mail. you will observe the injury to the paper is done by the County Clerk in an attempt to put on the seal he Cut out some of the paper & defaced at the word "York" being entirely gone & he has transfered the seal on to it. I should have returned it to him for his certificate of this fact but it takes about as long to get it to him & back again as it does to send it to Washington & as it is perfectly evident on examination that it is done in the way above mentioned I concluded it would be unnecessary & it would cost the old Pensioner forty cents out of his small pittance in Postage to get it done 
Very Respectfully 
your Obt Servt 
[signed] A. D. Williams
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Mech’s & Farmer’s Bank
Albany Pension Agency
March 15, 1837.
James L. Edwards Esquire
Commissioner of Pensions 
Sir
In reply to your letter 18th inst. I have to state that John C. Van Sice, under act May 15, 1828, at $80 per ann. was last paid to 3d Sept 1836.
I am, Sir,
very respectfully 
Your obt. Servt.
Thos W Olcott
Prd & Pen agt
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Unadilla N.Y. Decr 20th 1843 
Hon J. E. Carey 
Dr Sir  Either in July or August last I forwarded to the Commissioner of Pensions for the war Department the application of John C Van Sice a Revolutionary Pensioner to have his pension paid at Abany insted of New York he having removed from Sulivan County to Delaware County thereby rendering the transfer necessary - I have since once into the Commissioner of Pensions on the subject & in October I had Judge Beach a well known Pension Agent write to him on the same subject but have in no way heard from the application - the 4th of September last a semiannual yet became due to him of $48 the papers for drawing it were made out but in consequence of the transfer not having been made he was, & still is unable to obtain it - he is old decriped [decrepit] & sick and is suffering for the want of the money - will you do him the favor of applying at the proper office & assertain how the matter stands & write me on the subject 
Very Respectfully 
Your Obt Servt 
[signed] A. D. Williams
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APPLICATION FOR A TRANSFER. 
County of Sullivan ss. 
On this 17th day of March 1837, before me, the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace for the said County of Sullivan --- personally appeared John C Van Sice who, on his oath, declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the Company commanded by Captain Aaron Austin in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Van Scaik --- in the service of the United States; that his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of New York, Delaware Co from whence he has lately removed; that he now resides in the State of New York Sullivan County where he intends to remain, and wishes his pension to be there payable, in future. The follow are his reasons for removing from Masonville Delaware County New York to Rockland Sullivan County New York - That in consequence of his old age he moved to live with his children in Rockland Sullivan County NY 
[signed] John C Van Sice 
Sworn and subscribed to before me the day and year aforesaid,
[signed] James Gildersleve Justice of the Peace 

The oath to be taken before a duly qualified Magistrate, whose official character and signature must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. The County Clerk, Secretary of State, or some other officer, must certify, under his seal of office, that the officer who administered the oath is a Justice of the Peace, Judge, Mayor, Alderman, or Notary Public, as the case may be, and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine 
The oath must be supported by the testimony of some respectable person, as to the pensioner's identity. He must swear that the person who has taken the above oath, is the person described in the affidavit. The Magistrate must certify that the witness is a person of veracity; and the affidavit must also be authenticated in the manner above directed. 
In every case where the Clerk of the Court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should be sent with the papers. 
Mode of authenticating papers. – In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or small ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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State of New York 
Sullivan County } ss  I Hiram Rose of Rockland Sullivan Co NY being duly sworn do declare that John C Van Sice who has made the within affidavit is the identical John C Van Sice described in said affidavit 
[signed] Hiram Rose
Sworn & subscribed to before me this 17th day of March 1837 
[signed] James Gildersleve Justice of the peace 
I certify that the above Hiram Rose is a person of truth and veracity 
[signed] James Gildersleve J. Peace

State of New York 
Sullivan County } I, William E. Cady Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County and State aforesaid Do hereby certify that James Gildersleve is a justice of the peace in and for said County, duly commissioned and qualified, and that [illegible] signature is the genuine hand writing of the said Justice. 
Given under my hand and the seal of the said Court & County this 20th day of March AD 1837 
[signed] William E. Cady, Clerk
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Liberty Sullivan County N.Y. March 1 1837 
To the Secretary at War Washington City 
Sir - John C Van Sice formerly of Masonville Delaware County NY a Revolutionary Pensioner has removed into Rockland Sullivan County N.Y. and wishes to be transferred from the pension office at Albany to the pension office in New York in order that he may draw the money at the latter place as is arranged by Law for all pensioner residing in this County. The following is the form of his certificate 
"Revolutionary Claims No 591 
Under the act entitled an Act for the relief of certain surviving officers and Soldiers of the Army of the Revolution approved 15th May 1828 I certify that John C Van Sice of Masonville Delaware County in the State of New York is entitled to receive pay under the above mentioned Act as a surviving private of Infantry in the New York Line of the Army of the Revolution at the rate of Six dollars sixty six cents a month payable during his life on the third day of March and third day of September in each year 
It is provided by law that the said pay shall not in any way be transferable or liable to attachment levy or seizure by any legal process whatever 
Given under my hand and the seal of the Treasury of the United States this third day of August in the year one thousand Eight hundred and twenty nine and of Independence the fifty fourth 
[signed] S D Ingham  Secretary of the Treasury" 
(LS)

Mr Van Sice wishes you to make the necessary arrangement that he can draw the money in New York by attorney and forward him some blank Power of Attorney for this purpose. If any oaths or acts are necessary on his part in order to effect the alteration please let him know what they are &c Direct to John C Van Sice. Liberty Sullivan County NY 
Care of John D Watkins 
With great respect I am yours &c 
[signed] John D Watkins

Hon Secretary at War
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State of Pennsylvania 
County of Bradford } ss
On this ninth day of July 1846, before me the Subscriber, a Justice of the Peace for the said County of Bradford personally appeared John C. Van Sice who on his oath, declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the Company commanded Captain Aaron Austin in the regiment commanded Colonel Gansevoorts in the Revolutionary Army of the United States. That he enlisted to serve “during the war” under these officers, but subsequently served under others That his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of New York. That he was on the 3d September 1836 transferred from the roll of Albany to that of New York That he receives a pension under the act of May 15th 1828. That his certificate is numbered 591. That he has lately removed from Masonville in the State of New York to Sheshequin, Bradford County, State of Pennsylvania where he now resides and intends to remain, and wishes his pension to be payable in future at the Agency for paying pensions in Philadelphia, State of Pennsylvania. The following are his reasons for removing from New York to Pennsylvania That his children removed, with whom he lives, and he had to accompany them, as he has no family, is very aged, and depends on his children to take care of him, and that it will now save him much trouble and expense to have his pension transfered to Philadelphia.
[signed] John C Van Sice
Sworn & subscribed before me 
[signed] J.D. Goodenough J.P.
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George Sanderson being sworn doth depose and say that he is acquainted with John C. Vansice, the foregoing affiant, and that he is the person described in the foregoing affidavit and taken the oath thereto.
[signed] Geo. Sanderson
Sworn & subscribed this 8th July 1846 before me 
[signed] J. D. Goodenough 

I certify that I am acquainted with George Sanderson the foregoing affiant & that he is a person of veracity, and further, that the person who has taken the oath for a transfer of his pensions, is the John C. Van Sice described in the foregoing affidavit – 
Witness my hand the 8th July 1846 
[signed] J.D. Goodenough J.P. 

State of Pennsylvania 
County of Bradford } ss
I Addison McKean Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas of said do certify that J.D. Goodenough Esq is and was on the 8th of July 1846 a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, and that [illegible] the foregoing signature purporting to be his, is genuine  In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court this 6th day of January 1847 - 
[signed] A. McKean Prothy
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Mr Evans

Hon. David Wilmot
Towanda Penna.