Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 42,244, for John Sabins, Vermont
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Service: Vt
Sabins, John
Number S42,244
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20.215
New York

John Sabins
of St Lawrence in the State of New York
who was a private in the company commanded
by Captain Bronson of the Regiment commanded
by Colonel Warner in the N. Hampshire
line, for the term of three years
 from April 1778 to ___ 1781

Inscribed on the roll of New York
at the rate of Eight Dollars per month, to
commence on the 19 day of August, 1830

Certificate of Pension issued the 20 of Aug. 1830
and sent to William Ogden Waddington, N. York

Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1830 $4.41
Semi-anu'l all'ce ending 
$4.41

Revolutionary Claim,
Acts March 18, 1818,
and May 1, 1820.

Rec. Book D. Vol. 5. fol. 138

Let. Hon P. Thing 1st Jun 1850
Papers to 3rd Auditor
Sept. 6/55
E. Gray
Oct. 13/55
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John Roberts Jn
2d Affd't-
21.210
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Original Claim

Supplementary Declaration in order to be placed
 on the Pension List under the act of the 18th
March 1818.
State of New York
St. Lawrence County ss

On this thirteenth day of July One
Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty personally appeared
in open Court of the Circuit County and Court of Oyer &
Terminer held in and for the County of St. Lawrence aforesaid
and being a Court of Record, John Sabins Resident in said
County aged Seventy Eight years who being first duly
sworn moving to Law doth on his oath make the following
 declaration supplementary to his declaration made
on the thirteenth day of October in the year of our Lord One thousand
eight hundred and Twenty nine, in order to obtain the provisions
made by the act of Congress of the 18th March 1818 and
the first of May 1820. That he the said John Sabins enlisted
for the term of three years or during the continuance of
the war in the month of April in the year of our Lord
One Thousand seven Hundred and Seventy Eight at [Mt]
Charles in the [same] State of Vermont, in the Company
commanded by Captain Gideon Bronson in the Regiment
 commanded by Colonel Seth Warner in the line
of the State of New Hampshire on the continental
 establishment, and served in the said company until the
close of the war, when he was discharged from the [division]
 in the month of December at Fort Edwards in
the State of New York. This declarant further saith
that the grate part of Warner’s Regiment was discharged
at the same time this declarant received his discharge.
And this declarant further declares and saith that he
still continues to reside in the United States and in the
family of his Grandson by whom as is still principally
supported and that no charges have been much in his
property since his first declaration made the thirteenth
of October Eighteen Hundred and Twenty nine.
John Sabins

Sworn to and declared on the 13th day
of June 1830 before me in open Court
J G Hopkins Clerk
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St. Lawrence County ss: James G Hopkins Clerk
of said County and clerk of the Court of Oyer &
Terminer in & for said County do hereby certify
that the within or foregoing is a true copy
of the original oath or declaration (supplementary
&c) subscribed and sworn to by the said
John Sabins therein named before the said
Court in open Court, as the same remains
of record in said Court.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand and affixed the seal of
said Court this 13th day of July
1830 -
Hopkins Clerk of
said County and Court &c
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State of New York 
Franklin County
 Nathan Berman of the town of Chautauqua in the County & State
aforesaid being duly sworn deposeth and saith that since
he made his first affidavit in relation to the enlistment &
discharge of John Sabins in the army of the revolution
he has been requested to refresh his memory as to dates, and
to be more specific. On that head that he has refreshed his
memory accordingly, and is now able to say and doth say
that the said John Sabins now of Madrid in the County of
St Lawrence enlisted in the town of Manchester (now State of
Vermont) into Capt Gideon Bronson Company in Col.
S. Warren’s Regiment in the month of April in the year
of our Lord 1778 for three years or during the the war.
This deponent belonged to the same company with the said
John Sabins, and further saith that the said John Sabins
served as a private and faithfully, till the war was over, 
when he was discharged at Fort Edward in the State of
New York in the month of December when Warner’s Regiment
was discharged-
Nathan Berman
Subscribed to and sworn
this 14th day of June 1830
before me & I certify that
Deponent is a credible man
Chas D. Backus Justice Peace
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State of New York
Franklin County ss
 I Abel Willson Clerk
of the County of Franklin
and clerk of the court of Common pleas
do hereby certify that Charles D. Backus
before whom the within affidavit
was taken was at the day of the date
of a Justice of the peace for the County
 aforesaid duly appointed and sworn, and
 further that I am acquainted with the hand
 writing of the said Justice and verily believe that
 the signature Ch’s D. Backus, subscribed to
the within is the proper hand writing
of the said Justice. In testimony whereof
I have hereunto set my hand and affixed
the seal of the said County this 15th day
of June 1830 -

A. Willson Clerk
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State of New York
Clinton County  John Roberts Jr. of the town of
Plattsburgh in the County and State
aforesaid being duly sworn deposeth
and saith that since he made his first
affidavit in relation to the enlistment
and discharge of John Salian in the
Army of the revolution he has been requested
 to refresh his memory as to dates and
to be more specific on that head. That
he has refreshed his memory accordingly
and is now able to say and doth say
that the said John Sabins now of Madrid
in the County of St Lawrence enlisted
in the town of Manchester (now State of Vermont)
into Capt Gideon Bronson's Company in Col.
Warner's Regiment in the month of April
in the year of our Lord 1778 for three years
or during the then war - This deponent belonged
to the same company with the said John Sabins
 and further saith that the said John Sabins
 served as a private and faithfully till
the war was over, when he was discharged
at Fort Edward in the State of New York
in the month of December when Warner’s
Regiment was discharged - John Roberts

Subscribed to T sworn
this 11th day of June
A.D.1830 before me and 
I certify that deponent is
a credible man -
J. Snyder Jus. Peace
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Original Claim
Declaration in order to be placed on the pension List under the act of the 18th March 1818.
State of New York  St. Laurence County ss: 
On this thirteenth day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty nine in open Court of the Court of Common Pleas of the County & State aforesaid being a Court of Record John Sabins resident in said County aged Seventy seven years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by the acts of Congress of the 18th March 1818 and of the 1st of May 1820. That the said John Sabins was drafted in the year Seventeen hundred and seventy six for the term of three month which period he faithfully served. That in the year Seventeen hundred and seventy seven he served as a volunteer for the space of six months, that in the year Seventeen hundred & seventy eight he enlisted for the term of three years at Manchester in the State of Vermont in the company commanded by Captain Gideon Bronson in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Seth  Warner in the line of the State of New Hampshire on the continental Establishment and served until near the close of the war when he was discharged in Saratoga in the State of New York - That he is unable to state the particular day of his enlistment or his discharge. That he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension except the present. That his name is not on the Roll of any State except the State of New Hampshire and that the following are the reasons for not making an earlier application for a pension- That shortly after the passage of
the act of Congress of the 18th March 1818 he applied to Robert Livingston Esq of this County to assist him in procuring the provisions of the act. That he is informed and believes it to be true that his application was prepared and forwarded to the proper Office. That he was subsequently informed that his application was denied in consequence of his not being able to produce his certificate of Discharge, which he had lost a number of
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https://catalog.archives.gov/images/misc/drag.pngyears ago not thinking it would ever be of any benefit to him. That he was also informed that it would be useless and unavailing to make any further application without the production of that document. That relying upon this information and being discouraged by his friends from renewing his application he made no further exertions until the last year when hearing that the provisions of the act had been obtained without the production of the certificate of discharge he was induced to apply by letter to the Honorable Silas Wright Jr. then a member of Congress from this District & was informed through him what course to pursue-  And in pursuance of the act of the 1st of May 1820 I do Solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United States in the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not since that time by gift sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary war"" passed on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or securities contracts or debts due to me nor have I any income other that what is contained in the Schedule hereto annexed and by
me subscribed. That since the 18th March 1818 the following changes have been made in my property
[Table with following information]
Description of property  1 cow   1 sheep
Names of persons to whom sold  Davis Toper, Isaac Pleasant
Time of sale   April 1829  Oct. 1, 1829
Amount of money or description of property received in return 
a three do heifer which I now own
two Dollars in cash expended in necessaries

In 1818 I owned 5 sheep which has increased to 20 in the year 1825. In the month of June of that year 15 were
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Killed by dogs or wolves. I then put out 5 to Peter Service of Matilda Upper Canada for which he agreed to return me double the number in three years; the time has expired but I have not been able to get any back and in consequence of the poverty of service never expect to receive any thing for them. After the loss of these Sheep my grandson gave me 4 of which I have 3 left having sold one as above mentioned. The calves from my two cows mentioned in my Inventory hereto annexed and the increase of the sheep and the fleeces of the same have been used for the support of myself and my wife.
And I do further declare that I am by occupation a farmer but for the last ten or twelve years have not been able to do any manual labor, my only occupation being to assist my wife in winding spools & who is by trade a weaver, is now aged seventy four but is not able to get enough work to keep her employed through the year, Myself and my wife reside
with our grandson by whom we are principally supported. I have two children living, one son, John Sabins Jr. and one daughter Elizabeth Scott both of whom have families and in poor circumstances.
John Sabins
Sworn to and declared on the 13th day of October 1829
before me in open Court
J.C.S. Hopkins Clerk
Schedule of the Estate of John Sabins
the above declarant (necessary clothing & bedding excepted)
1 Cow 8 yr old
1 Heifer 3 yr old 3 Sheep
A demand against Peter Service of Matilda N. Canada for 10 sheep mentioned in my Declaration. No other
debts Securities contracts or property no books of account
No real estate either in Law or Equity expecting reversion
or remainder
John Sabins
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I James G. Hopkins Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of St Lawrence in the State of New York do hereby certify that it appears to the Satisfaction of the said Court that the said John Sabins did serve in the Revolutionary war as stated in the preceding declaration against the common enemy for the term of nine months at least under one engagement, on the Continental establishment. I also certify that the foregoing oath or declaration and the Schedule thereto annexed are truly copied from the Records of said Court. And I do further certify that it is the opinion of the said Court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid Schedule is thirty three dollars and Seventy five cents. In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of the said Court this 14th day of October 1829
Fees $1.
J.G. S. Hopkins Clerk &
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State of New York
St. Lawrence County ss
Robert Livingston of the town of Lisbon in said County being duly sworn deposeth and saith that in the year Eighteen Hundred and Eighteen He was one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of St Lawrence - That on the Eleventh day of April in the year Eighteen Hundred and Eighteen upon the application of John Sabins of the Town of Madrid in said County st'd this Deponent prepared the necessary Declaration & affidavit of the said John Sabins according to the forms then proscribed in order to substantiate his claim to a Pension under the Act of Congress passed 18 March 1818 -- That the papers were duly certified and attested by this Deponent and forwarded by him to the Honl John C Calhoun Secretary of War. Deponent further saith that the said application was denied and considered and deemed to be nonadmissable on the ground that there was not sufficient proof of his services being rendered on a Continental Establishment
Robert Livingston
Sworn before me this 22nd day of February 1830 and I do further certify that the said Robert Livingston is a man of indoubted truth and veracity
Geo. Redington
Justice of the Peace
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St. Lawrence County ss: I James G. Hopkins Clerk
of the County of St Lawrence in the State of New York
do hereby certify that George Redington Esqr
before when the within affidavit was sworn
was at the time a Justice of the Peace in & for
said County duly authorized to administer oaths
and further that Robert Livingston Esq
within named was in the year 1818 a Judge &c
as within stated
In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto
set my hand and affixed the seal
of said County this 5th day of
March 1830.
J G Hopkins Clerk
2/.
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State of New York
Clinton County ss John Robertson of the town of Plattesburgh in said County being duly sworn deposeth and saith that during the revolutionary war he was a resident of the town of Manchester in the now State of Vermont, that when Col. Seth Warner's Regiment of the Continental troops was recruiting at and in the vicinity of Manchester aforesaid this deponent enlisted into the said Regiment in the company commanded by Capt Gideon Brownson for three years or during the then [existing] war, that this deponent was then well acquainted with John Sabins then of Manchester aforesaid and now or lately of Madrid in the County of St Lawrence the State of New York that the said John Sabins this deponent thinks in the year 1777 enlisted also into the Company of Capt Gideon Brownson in the Regiment of Col Seth Warner for three years or during the then existing war and served as a private in the said company with this deponent to the close of the war and until he was discharged at Fort Edward as this deponent thinks in the State of New York. This deponent and the said John Sabins both Served about a year each before the above mentioned enlistment in the company of Capt Gideon Brownson when this deponent believes the Regiment was commanded by Col Ebenezer Allen and further saith not
John Roberts
Subscribed to & sworn this 8th day of February A.D. 1830 Before me and I certify that I am well
acquainted with the above named deponent and that his reputation for truth and veracity is perfectly good
J. Lynde Jus. Peace
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Clinton County
Clerk’s Office I Smith Mead Acting Clerk of
the County of Clinton do hereby
Certify that John Lynde before whom the
within affidavit was sworn was on the day
of the date of said Affidavit first Judge
of the Court of Common Pleas in and for said
County of Clinton dwelling in said County
Commissioned, and sworn & duly authorised
by said to take affidavit
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set
my hand and affixed the Seal of said
County this 8th day of February 1830

Smith Mead Acting Clerk
of said County of Clinton
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State of New York
Franklin County Ss. Nathan Berman of Chataugay in the County of Franklin State of New York being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is acquainted with John Sabins now of the town of Madrid in the County of St. Lawrence & State aforesaid. That the deponent during the 
Revolutionary war & at the time of his enlistment into the army of the United States resided in the town of Manchester in the State of Vermont, where he was well acquainted with the said John Sabins. That this deponent enlisted & served in the United States army being in the company under the command of Captain Gideon Brunson in Col. Seth Warner's Regiment of the New Hampshire line of the Revolutionary army about three years & there the service John Sabins was honorably discharged from the service near the close of the war, either at Fort George, Fort Edward or Saratoga, some of Col. Warner's regiment being discharged at each of those places-- that the said
John Sabins served with deponent about three years in said Company before his said discharge & further saith not.
Sworn the 2d day of Oct. 1829 before me 
1829 before me
Nathan Beman
C. D. Backus Justice of the Peace
I hereby certify that the above named deponent Nathan Beman is a man of truth &
 Veracity. I have never heard his character or truth impeached when under oath. 
Chataugay Feby 5th 1836
Chas D Backus Justice Peace
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State of New York 
Franklin County  I Abel Willson Clerk of the
County of Franklin do
hereby certify that Charles D. Backus
whose name is subscribed to the
within affidavit is a Justice of the
peace in and for the County aforesaid
dwelling in said County duly
by appointed & since sworn, and further
 that I am acquainted with the
hand writing of the said Justice & verily
 believe that the signature of
Chas D. Backus subscribed to the said affidavit
 is the proper hand writing
the said Justice. In testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my hand
& affixed the seal of said County on this 2  October 1829
A. Willson Clerk
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Madrid, N.Y.
Oct 3d/35
Edw’d Gray
Rec’d Oct 9th/35

3rd Auditor's Office
Oct 9 183[ ]
Respectfully referred 
to the Comm’r of 
Pensions, the
writer so informed.
[Dep of Interior]

Cole

John Sabins N. Y. 1818

Mr Randall
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Madrid. Oct 3d 1835
W. H. S. Taylor Esq
Dr Sir
Elizabeth Scott child of John Sabins deceased requests me to ask you the following questions by answering which you will confer a great favor.
1. Was the certificate for a pension, issued to John Sabins on the 19 of August 1830
2. Was he not entitled to & should he not receive pay from the time his application for Pension was [perfected]
3. How long did John Sabins continue in service by the evidence on file in your office. Did he serve until the close of the war
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or John Sabins

Mrs Scott thinks she ought
to draw back pay from the
time the act passed March 18
1818, or at least from the
time his application was perfected,
 which was about
the month of June 1830.
Please inform me when
the proofs were perfected as
it appears from papers on file
or the date of the last one.
Yours Truly
Edward T Gray
Madrid St Lawrence
N.Y.
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Treasury Department,
Third Auditor's Office
Sept 7. 1855
Sir
I herewith return to you
the papers in the case of John Sabins
of N.Y. received from you under
date of the 6th Just. and have to
inform you that no payment 
appears to have been made in the
case. The arrears due will be paid
thro’ this office.

I am, Sir, your
Obedient Servant
W.S.O. Taylor
Acting Auditor

J. Minot Esq
Commr of Pensions
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Pension Office
Aug 19th 1830

pen: to com: Aug. 19. 1830
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Waddington St. Laurence Ct’y. New York
August 11 1830

The Hon’ble
John H Eaton
Washington C
Sir
I have the honor herewith
to transmit you the original application for a Pension in the
case of John Sabins of this Town[ship] accompanied by a
Supplimentary Declaration & afft’s of two Witnesses, which
I trust will be satisfactory.

I have the Honor
to be 
Very Respf’y
Yr Obt Servt
Will’m Ogden
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Hs of Reps
May 4 1830
Hon J.L. Edwards
Com of Pensions
Sir
Enclosed I send you letter of Geo. C. Conant Esq relative claim right & right of heir of John Sabins. Will you give me the information he asks for
Very Respectfully
Preston Thio [?]
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42244
INVALID
Revy
File No. 42,244
John Sabins
Pri Rev War
Act: 18 March 18
Index: Vol 5, Page 440

{Arrangement of 1870.}