Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4709, Joel Harvey, S.C.
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SERVICE
S.C.
born in Va.

Harvey, Joel

NUMBER
R 4709
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13
Joel Harvey
Declaration &
for a Pension

not found on S.C. rolls--
No Col. by name of Hayes
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State of Mississippi
Simpson County
In the Simpson Circuit Court
October term 1832

In this fifteenth day of October 1832 personally appears in this
court before the Honorable Edward Turner presiding judge of said
court now sitting Loel Harvey a resident of the county of [illegible]
in the state aforesaid, aged about sixty eight years who being first
duly sworn according to law, doth in his oath make the following
declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress
passed June the 7th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States as a Volunteer
from the district of Ninety six in the State of South Carolina, under
the command of Captain William Harris & Col. [illegible] Hays in
October of the year 1779 and continued in said service for the space
of two years and six months without intermission during which
time he was  in the following engagements with the enemy, to wit,
at Black Stocks in Tiger River in South Carolina under Genl. [illegible
possibly Sumpter?] at the Cowpens at the defeat of Genl. Tarlton,, under
Genl. Morgan, at the siege of ninety six under Gen'l Green, and ales in 
various other skirmishes of less note.  And further that he also
marched to Virginia under Genl. Morgan with the prisoners taken
at the Cowpens.  That, at the end of his time of service, which was
near the close of the war, he received a written discharge from
his former Capt. Wm. Harris who about that time was promoted to
the rank of Major, that said discharge was a long time ago burnt with
the burning of this affiants house and that he knows of no other person 
whose testimony he can procure to testify to his service.
I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or to an
annuity except the present, and declare that my name is not on the
pension roal of the agency of any State or territory.
Interrogatory.1st Where and in what year were you born and have you any record of your age
Ans.  I was born July 4th 1764 and my age was recorded in
         my fathers bible
2nd--Where were you living when called into service: and
         where have you lived since the revolution and where
          are you now live?
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Ans.  When called into the service I lived in the district of
        ninety six in the State of South Carolina, and since the
         revolution in South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky, and since
         1819 in this State.
3rd   How were you called in the service?
Ans.   As a volunteer.
4th     State the names of some of the regular officers of the regular officers of
          the troops where you served?
Ans.   I served nearly the whole time under Cap. William
          Harris.  Col. Joseph Hays & Levi Casey, Genl. Andrew
           Pickens, Sumpter, Morgan & Green
5th     Did you ever receive a discharge from the service: by
           whom was is given: and what has become of it?
Ans.   I received my discharge from the said William Harris
          then a Major, which was destroyed at the burning of my
          dwelling house.
6th     State the names of persons to whom you are known
           in your present neighborhood who can testify as to your
           good character for veracity good behaviour [illegible]
Ans.    William Massey, Jeremiah Maxwell, and James Norman
(signature of Joel Harvey)
Sworn to and subscribed in open
court this day and year aforesaid
E. [illegible] Presiding Judge

We William Morris a clergyman residing in the county aforesaid
and William Massey residing in the same hereby certify that we
are well acquainted with Joel Harvey who has subscribed and
sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be about
sixty eight years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the
neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution
and that we concur in that opinion.
(illegible signature{
(signature Wm. [illegible])
Sworn to and subscribed  this day and year aforesaid.
(signature E. Turner Presiding Judge)
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And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation
of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories subscribed
by the Department that the above named applicant was a 
Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states.  And the court 
further certifies that it appears to them that William Morris who has
signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman residing in the
county  aforesaid; and that William Massey who has also signed the
same is a resident in said county and a credible person, and
that their statement is entitled to credit.
(signature E. Turner Presiding Judge)

I John R Hubert clerk of the court aforesaid do hereby
certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in
the matter of the application of Joel Harvey for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and
seal of office this fifteenth day of October 1832.
(signature of John R Hubert Clerk)
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32,787
Joel Harvey
Revo.  Mississipi.
Rejected.  Sec Letter to
Hon. Powh. Ellis
Feb. 9, 1831.
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Mississippi
Joel Harvey
Suspended
Sec letter to
C.K. Brown
Westville, Mi.
6 March 1835
4709
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Pension Office
Jany. 29, 1931

J. L. Edwards, Esq.
Pension Office
Present

rejected Feb. 9. 1931
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Washington City January 28, 1831

Sir

The enclosed letter is an application of
Joel Harvey of Mississippi for a Pension, and
[illegible] I am well aware he has not brought
himself within the acts of Congress to as to entitle
himself to a Pension, yet I am desirous you
will enclose me the necessary instructions
as that I may forward them for his guidance.

Respectfully
your obt. [illegible]
Powhatan Ellis

to
J. L. Edwards
Pension Office
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Nov. 7
Joel Harvey Miss?
West ville Mi
21 Oct

J. L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington city D.C.

Free
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Free

West ville Mi
25 Octr

J. L. Edwards Esqr.
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington city D.C.
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Westville Simpson County Miss.
October 15th 1834

J. L, Edwards Esqr.
Sir
I have the honor to return
herewith, the papers in support of the claim
of Joel Harvey for a Pension, with a supplementary
declaration in addition to his first one.
Thought these papers may not in every particular
being Mr Harvy's case strictly within
the rules of the department yet I think
his case should at least come favorably
before the department in as much as two 
respectable courts of record & one of them
of high reputation in the State, have
given their opinion decidedly in his favor
and two clergymen have with the courts certified
as to their belief of his service &
his reputation for veracity.  I think
these proofs in his favor must relieve
the minds of the examining officers of
every dant as to his service.  He is now
on the verge of the grave & if ever he gets any
relief from the government it must come soon
or never.  I act as his agent in this matter
and will receive any communications at
this office on the subject.
I have the honor to be
Very respectfully 
Your obt.  sevt. (your obedient servant)
(signature of C. K. Brown)
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Brief in the case of Isabel Scott, widow of Robert Scott.
Claiborne Point and State of Louisiana.
act February 3, 1853.

Claim,

Proof exhibited,

Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state substance.

A certificate of the Comptroller General of
South Carolina shows that Robert Scott served
ten months as a private of Cavalry in [illegible]
Brigade.  Claimants husband was a witness
in the case of Joel Harvey, of Mississippi.  18th
March, 1818, and his affidavit in that case
prove his identity as the soldier whose service is
certified by the Comptroller General as above.
(Written in margin--- See Joel Harvey Rej. File 4709)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?
The marriage is alleged to have taken place
in 1797--but the date is not satisfactory established,
although the fact of marriage is: as is also the presents
widowhood of claimant the claim has therefore
been admitted under act of February 3, 1853.

Hon. John M. Sandidge,
(of Louisiana)
Name and residence of Agent
[illegible  illegible]

R. Geddy or Geddes
Examining Clerk.
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Georgetown Miss
Jan the 5th 1831

Honl. Powhattan Ellis
Washington City
D.C.
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Georgetown 5 Jany 1832

Dear sir
Enclosed you will find the
affidavit of Joel Harvey and Mr.
Scott relative to the former obtaining a
pension.  I am personally acquainted'
with Mr. Harvey, and I know his situation
to be truly a bad one.  I do not know
whether the papers are in proper form or
not, but of this you will be the getter
judge when you examine them.  Should
any thing be wanting you will please
communicate it to me as early as possible
with the necessary directions.  Your early attention
to this matter will render an essential
service to one of our old revolutionary
soldiers who no doubt stands in as much
need as any who are on the pension list.
We have nothing of importance to communicate
which has taken place since you left here.

I should be happy to hear from you
occasionally should the old man obtain
a pension you will please address him
or myself at this place.
Respectfully your friend'& obt servant

(signature of W.P. Harris)
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The State of Mississippi
[illegible] County
Personally appeared before the undersigned
Daniel H. Profur Judge of Probate and 
Presiding Justice of the County Court of said
County. Joel Harvey who being sworn upon the
Evangelist of Almighty God, did depose in the
following words to wit;  I do solemnly swear that
about the year 1777 or 8, I entered to militia service
in the state of South Carolina in the company
of Capt. William Harris commanded by Col.
Joseph Hayes, that I remained in the service of the
state of South Carolina about two years and six
months, that at the expiration of that time I was
disbanded, and discharged, but that the evidence
of my discharge was lost about seventeen years
ago in the burning of my house, that I have no
recollection of the line to which I belonged
and at this time that I am wholly unable to
obtain a subsistance, but am compelled to
live upon the bounty of my friends for support..
So help me God.
Joel Harvey

Sworn to and subscribed before me this 7th Dec. 1830.
Daniel H. Prosser P.J.
The state of Mississippi
Copiah County
Personally appeared before the undersigned
Daniel H. Prosser Presiding Justice of the County Court
of said County, Robert Scott who being duly sworn
deposed in the following words, to wit; I do solemnly swear
that in the year 1777 or 8 I was a private soldier in the
regiment of Col. Hayes, in the militia service of the state of
South Carolina that at that time, while in the service
I became acquainted with a certain Joel Harvy
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who at that time belonged to the regiment
commanded by Col. Joseph Hayes, and to the
best of my recollection belonged to the company
of Cavalry commanded by Captain William
Harris that I frequently saw the said Joel Harvey
at different times during the war until the battle
at the for of ninety six, and I verily believe that
the Joel Harvey here present is the same Joel
Harvey whom i knew in the said regiment
of Col. Joseph Hayes of the South Carolina
militia to the best of my knowledge and belief
so help me God.
(signature of Robert Scott)
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 6th Decr. 1830.
(signature Daniel H. Proper, P. Justice)

I William Barnes Clerk of the Circuit
 Court of Copiah County State of
Mississippi do hereby certify that the foregoing
are the true copy's of the affidavit of
Joel Harvey and Robert Scott as taken before
Daniel H. Proper Presiding Justice of the 
County Court of Copiah County which
affidavits are now on file in my office.
Given under my hand and 
seal of office, this thirteenth
day of December eighteen
hundred and thirty, and of the American 
Independance the fifty fifth year.
(signature Wm Barnes Clk,)
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4709

P.O.
Joey Harvey

"REJECTED" stamp diagnally across
the form.  The rest is not filled out.
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**Document is smudged and difficult to read**

Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of
the Act of Congress passed June 7th  1832
State of Mississippi
[illegible] County SS

On this thirtieth day of September
in the year of our Lord one thousand
eight hundred and thirty four personally appeared
[smudged] me William Largent Pres[illegible] of the
[smudged] of County Police in and for the  [smudged]
Simpson and State aforesaid the same being a
Court of Record Joel Harvey now a resident  of
Simpson County and State aforesaid aged seventy
year who being unable to attend court by
reason of bodily infirmity and who being first
duly sworn according to law doth in his oath
make the following Declaration, supplementary
to a declaration make by him at the October Term
[smudged] of the Circuit Court of Simpson County and
[smudged......] aforesaid on the 15th day of October 1832 here
unto anexed in order to obtain the [smudged]
of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States
under the following named officers and [illegible]
as herein stated that in the year 1779 he enlisted
said service as a volunteer in the company of Capt.
William Harris with Lieut. Martin Martin under
Luit. Col. Levi Casey in the regiment commanded
by Col. Joseph Hayes (illegible Hays) that by 
reason of age and [illegible, smudged] memory he 
cannot recollect the number or name of said
Regiment.  That he [illegible] in the Same, [illegible[
the officers aforesaid being an [illegible.....]
[smudged] in the service by competent authority
as a private soldier for the span of two years
and six months.  That said Regiment & company
in which he served as aforesaid were volunteers
raised, organized, and equiped as volunteer [illegible]
[smudged....] the District of [smudged.............] in the
State of South Carolina.  That he left said service
in the year 1780.  That he entered said
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service as aforesaid at the District of Ninety six
in South Carolina.  That during said service he
marched from said District of Ninety six to
meet Gen. Sumpter and his army at Tiger
River in South Carolina at Blackstock where
a battle ensued between the men commanded
by Gen. Sumpter on the part of America
and Col. Tarlton of the British.  In which
battle Gen. Sumpter was severely wounded in
the breast and shoulder and Col. Tarlton retreated.
After which battle at Blackstock on Tiger river
your petitioner Joel Harvey together with said
Regiment marched to Grindal Shoals on
Pickolet River where they joined Gen. Morgan
and afterword marched with Gen. Morgan
and his men to the Cowpens where a battle
ensued between Gen. Morgan & Col. Tarlton
which resulted in Col. Tarlton's defeat.
after which the said Joel Harvey marched with
said corps and the Prisoners taken at the battle
of the Cowpens, to the Catawba  Afterward to wit
in the spring of 1781 the said Joel Harvey and
others marched to Ninety six and met and joined
Gen. Green at that place and immediately after-
wards Gen. Green & his men retreated to North 
Carolina.  That after the seige of Ninety six the
said Joel Harvey was in no considerable battle
but in many skirmishes with the Tories &
to wit at Widow Dugan's and at the mouth of Tiger 
River where Col. N[illegible] was killed.
That he was born in Bedford County in the 
State of Virginia in the year 1764.  That he
has no record of his age.  That he resided in
the District of Ninety six in South Carolina
when called into said service as aforesaid.
That he has lived since the Revolutionary war
in the States of South Carolina, Georgia,
Tennessee, Kentucky and in the State of 
Mississippi where he now resides [smudges]
and has resided from fifteen years Sept.  passed.
That he entered said service as a volunteer said
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served as a private as aforesaid that he recollects
the names of Col. Hays Leuit. Col. Casey
Gen Sumpter, Gen. Green. Gen. Morgan, Col.
Washington & others of the Regular Officers
who were with the troops where he served.
That he received a regular discharge from said
service given by Capt. William Harris
which was long since burnt together with the
house of this applicant.  That he is known in
his present neighbourhood to Gen. Wiley P. 
Harris Dr. C. W. Harris, John Woods, Daniel Magee
Jeremiah maxwell and others who can testify
as to his character for veracity and their
belief of his services as a soldier of the
Revolution.  That he the said Joel Harvey has
no documentary evidence and that he
knows of no person whose testimony he
can procure who can testify to his service.
That he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever 
to a Pension or annuity except the present
and declares that his name is not on the Pension
Roll of the agency of any State in this
union.  This applicant further states that by reason
of old age and the consequence & loss of memory
he cannot state presisely all the facts
and circumstances relative to his service, nor the
presise day on which he entered or left said service
but that he is confident he served two
years and six months as aforesaid for which he
claims a pension.
(signature of Joel Harvey)
Sworn to and subscribed before 
me the day and year aforesaid
(signature William Largent RBP ?)

We James Powell a clergyman residing in
the County of Simpson in said State and Charles
K. Brown residing in the said County of Simpson
and State aforesaid hereby certify that we are well
acquainted with Joel Harvey who has subscribed
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and sworn to the above declaration that we
believe him to be seventy years of age that
he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood
where he resides to have been a soldier
of the revolution and that we  concur in that
opinion.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
(signature of James Powell)
(signature of C. K. Brown)
And I the said William Largent President of the Board
of Police in and for the County of Simpson and State 
aforesaid do hereby declare my [smudged] full investigation
of the matter & after puting the interogatories presented
by the war department that the above named applicant
Joel Harvey was a revolutionary soldier & served as he
states.  And I the said William Largent further certify that
it appears to me that James Powell who has signed the
preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the
said County of Simpson and that Charles K. Brown who
has also signed the same is a resident in the said County
of Simpson is a credible person & that their statement
is entitled to credit.  And I the said William
Largent & President at aforesaid do also hereby further
certify that the said Joel Harvey applicant as aforesaid
cannot from bodily infirmity attend court.
(signature William Longent P.G.P.S.C.)

The State of Mississippi
Simpson County
I Henry C. Bennet Clerk of the
Board of police of the County of
Simpson and State of Mississippi do hereby certify
that the above named William Longent was our
acting President of the Board of Police in [smudged]
for the County of Simpson and State of Mississippi
on the thirtieth day of September eighteen hundred
and thirty four and that full faith and credence
ought to be given to his acts and deeds as such
and I do further certify that the signature anexed is
the genuine signature of him the said William Largent.
Given under my hand and official seal
this first day of October in the year of
our Lord 1834
(Henry C. [illegible] Clerk)
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The National Archives
Form VAN-51
12-5-41

BOUNTY LANE WARRANT RECORD CARD
Division of Veterans' Administration Archives

Name: Harvey, John
Grade: Private
Line: Massachusetts
Warrant Number: 4395
Acreage:  100
Issued: Mar 30, 1796 to Peter Sivier