Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 4,643, for Charles Paine, North Carolina
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(3-1776)
SERVICE
N.C.
VA.

Paine, Charles
Payne

NUMBER
S.4643
carded
CONTENTS
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25.547
West Tennessee
Charles Payne
Warren Co. in the State of Tennessee who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Davidson of the regt. commanded by Col. Shelly in the  North Carolina line for 7 months for 1777
Charles Payne Va. x N.C. Line
Subscribed on the Roll of West Tennessee (apoll the Records of )at the rate of 23 Dollars 33 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 day of January 1834 - and sent to Mr. John B. Forrester N.C.
Arrears to the 4th of Sept. 1833 $58.33
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Mch [March] '34 11.66 =
Died Sept. 7, 1838  $70.00
{Revolutionary Claim}
{Act June 7, 1832}
Recorded by Wm. Allison Clerk
Book E Vol 7 Page 92

owa to hay May 12 1837.
Thos. Maybery May 12, 1837
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State of Tennessee }
Warren County } On the 4th day of April 1833 personally appeared in Open Court before the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for said County now in Session Charles Payne a resident of said County and State age about seventy five years he being first duly sworn according to law and doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed the 7th June 1832 States that in 1774 or 1775 as he things within month of April he entered the service of the United States as a volunteer in Captain John Davidsons  Company. The company was organized in Pittsylvania County Virginia The object of the expedition was against the Cherokee Indians He marched to Long Island as Holston River in East Tennessee then apart of the North Carolina our company there joined Captain Shelby's and Captain Wilsher's Company the whole commanded by Colonel Shelby who marched us to Cumberland gap not finding the Indians Colonel Shelby marched us back to Long Island where we amassed with our term of service expired which was three months we were then discharged and returned home [illegible] tho since Col. Shelly
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made a Treaty with the Indians. About the 25th of June 1780 Applicant again entered the service of the United States as a volunteer in Wilks County North Carolina Captains name not recollected under Maj. Joel Lewis we organised [organized] in Wilks County at a place called the Old Stone near the In Kudzu. The object of this                      expedition was against a large body of Tories and British princapally [principally] the farmers who had collected on Clear plantation near the conjunction of the Yadkin and Rocky Rivers near he conjunction of the Yadkin and Rocky Rivers and was now committing gross depredation and compelling many to take the oath of allegiance to the King Volunteers were called for and as an inducement we were told that if we would go [illegible] and destroy the enemy that service should be considered equal to a three months tour. This applicant not entered in defense of his home and his country and marched against the enemy. In our route we joined Colonel Davidson and Rutherford who took the Command The army marched down to the for of the River where the Yadkin and Rocky rivers make the Peedee. The evening before the battle this horseman crossed the Rocky River in the night and attacked the enemy camp the next morning. As soon as the battle commenced Colonel Davidson method over it was said marched over of said River with about three hundred men to his assistance
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and they killed took and dispersed the enemy before the main army reached the battle ground. Applicant was not engaged in the battle as he was with the main army, and the battle was over before they reached them. The troops were discharged and we returned home. This service continued four weeks. In August 1781 he again entered the service was drafted for three months in Captain William Dick's Company. The company organized in Pittsylvania County Virginia and marched to Little York where Cornwallis' army then lay Applicant was taken sick and was confined some night upon James River tender miles from Little York. About the time of his recovery the tour for which he had entered the service having expired he was discharged and returned home. Applicant was afterwards engage in various expeditions against the Indians in East Tennessee and Georgia in Scouting parties and sometimes a spy. The services performed in this way would amount to three months or more. He received written discharges for the three first tours he performed but they are now lost or mislayed [mislaid] He therefore has no documentry  [documentary] evidence of his Service nor does he know any person by whom he can prove the same. He hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to any pension or annuity except the present and declares his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State
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Answers to the interrogatories directed to be put by the war Department.
Says he was home the 4th of April 1758 in Halifax County Virginia. His age is recorded in his family Bible. He lived in Halifax County until he was five or six years old. Moved to Pittsylvania County lived there about seventeen years moved to Wilks County North Carolina lived there near one year returned back to Pittsylvania County and remained there near two years. Thence to East Tennessee which is now Hawkins County lived there 14 years thence to Georgia where he lived nineteen years. Thence to Warren County Tennessee where he has lived ever since with the exception of one year which he lived in Marian County Tenn. Volunteered twice and was drafted once. Served with no regular troops as he was sick at the time of the siege with Cornwallis. He refers to the body of his declaration for the general circumstances of his service. Received three written discharges but they are lost mislayed [mislaid] or destroyed. No Clergymen residing in his immediate neighbourhood [neighborhood] by whom he can prove his service
Charles Paine C his mark [Signature]
Sworn and Subscripted to in open Court this 4th day of April 1833
Jos. Colville Clerk By L Colville DC
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We Uriah York and Elijah Drake residing in said County of Warren do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Charles Payne who has Subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be about Seventy Five years of age. That he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood [neighborhood] where he resides to have been a soldier in the Revolution and we concur in that opinion. [Signatures]
Uriah York  Elijah Drake
Sworn and subscribed to in open Court this 4th day of April 1833
Jos. Colville Clerk By L Colville DC

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states. The Court further Certify that it appears to them there is no clergyman residing in the immediate neighbourhood [neighborhood] of applicant and that Uriah York and Elijah Drake who have signed and sworn to the preceding certificate reside in the County of Warren and are credible persons and their statement
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is entitled to full credit. Given under our hands and seals in open court this 4th day f April Anno Domini 1833
[Signatures]
Wm. McGeorge {seal]
A. Higginbotham [seal]
Samuel Derby [seal]

I Joseph Colville clerk of the court of pleas and quarter sessions for said county hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceeding in the matter of the application of Charles Paine for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and private seal there being no seal of office 18th day of Apr. 1833 [seal]
J. Colville clerk 
By L. Colville DC
I hereby certify that the Joseph Colville is the clerk of the court of please and quarter sessions for Warren county and that L. Colville as it appears above is genuine this nth of Dec. 1833
John B. Forester [Signature]
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May 5, 1936.

BA-J/ILL ow
Charles Paine
S. 4643

Miss Helena Ash
903 Amoroso Place
Venice, California.

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of your ancestor Charles Payne, or Paine a resident of Warren County, Tennessee, in 1834..
The data given herein were found in the papers on file in pension claim S. 4643, based upon service of the above noted Charles Paine, or Payne in that war. Charles Paine, or Payne, was born April 4, 1758 in Halifax County, Virginia, and lived there until five or six years of age: the names of his parents were not stated. He moved from there to Pittsylvania County, Virginia. While a resident of Pittsylvania County, Virginia, he volunteered sometime in April 1774 and served three months as a private in Captain John Davidson's company, Colonel Shelly's Regiment in the expedition against the Indians to Long Island on Holstein River. he moved to Wilkes County, Virginia: he enlisted sometime in August 1781 and served three months as private in Captain William Dick's Virginia company in the defense of Yorktown. He served subsequently on various expeditions as scout and spy against the Indians in East Tennessee and Georgia, amounting in all to at least three months, officers names and specific dates not shown. The soldier moved form Pittsylvania County, Virginia, to
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East Tennessee that part which was later Hawkins County, and remained fourteen years, thence to Georgia where he resided nineteen  years, and from there to Warren County, Tennessee, Charles Paine, or Payne was allowed pension on his application executed April 3, 1833, at which time he resided in Warren County, Tennessee. He had resided there ever since moving from Georgia, with the exception of one year during which he resided in Marion County, Tennessee. His name was borne Charles Payne on the pension roll. He died September 7, 1838. No reference was made to wife or children of the above noted soldier.

Very truly yours,

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant 
to the Administrator.
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1928 Sept.19. Hist to Mrs. Blanche Bentley M.E.E>
1929, Mar. 14, Mrs. J.E. Bentley adv. Hist furn. her letter in cl. of Wm. Stroud, R. 10278, M.E.E.
1936 - May 4 Hist. to Mrs. John E. Bentley
1936 - May 5 - Hist. to Miss Helen Ash, J.L.

RevWar 4643

INVALID.

File No. 4643
*Charles Pane
Pvt. Ga. Mailer

Act: June 7/32
Index: - Vol. A, Page 287

[Arrangement of 1870.]
*Charles Payne. Va. and N.C. Line 
Records corrected Apr. 11, '04
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28.774
Charles Pain
Tennessee
from 1777 private/
amnt. $23.33/100.

Hon. J.B. Frrester
H.R.
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Pension                From
John B. Forest.

Mr. Allison
of the war Department
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In May 1777 at the Long Island of Holstein [Holston] a treaty was held with the Indians by Commissioner on the part of North Carolina & Virginia on the part of North Carolina Waightstill Avery, Joseph Winston & Robert Lanier, & on the part of Virginia Col. Preston Col Christian & Col Evan Shelly.
The above is a true entreat from Haywoods History of Tennessee page 55.

John Blair

Sir, 
I have examined the history of Tenn. and find the above which is all the treaty made at that place or at least all I can find I am confident this is the treaty Mr. Charles Pain aleuded [alluded] to. Giving to the deposition going on in the house on the Subject of pensioners the Indians fighters of the west. I cannot
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get the book at present members wo wish to speak on the subject want it to read. I hope you will attend to his claim and send the certificate to me immediately Your sr
[Signature] John B. Forester
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Union Bank of Tennessee
Nashville 25th April 1837
J. L. Edwards Esq.

Dear Sir
At the request of Thos. Mayberry the attorney of Mr. Charles Payne a Rev.y. Pensioner under the act of the 7 June 1832 I herewith transmit you his Pension Identity for your inspection and permission f his being paid there is 18 months pay due Mr. Payne up to the 4 March last, Mr. Payne's attorney says owing to the pension certificate being mislaid is the reason why application was not made before this for his money, please to return his Voucher to him or Mr. Thos. Mayberry at McMinnville Tennessee and much oblige.
Your obt. Servt.
John M Bass. Pres.t
& Pension Agent
By S. Cantrell
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RECEIVED APR 22 1936
MAIL SUB=DIV.
VETS ADM
READER 2
3:00
Commissioner of Pension
Revolutionary Room
Washington D.C.

My Dear Sir:
I shall be exceedingly obliged to have the Revolutionary pension record of Charles Payne set to me. Virginia Military Service.
The name of Charles Payne was on a list of Warren County pensioners sent to me by request of Representative McReynolds of Tennessee. A list of names was sent but no service and I shall be deeply grateful for this.
Thanking you
Mrs. John Eldridge Bentley
McMinnville Tennessee
April 20, 1936
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Miss Helena Ash
903 Amoroso Pl
Venice, Calif
Apr 27, 1936

Pension Bureau Washington D C
Dear sir,
Will you please give me any information you on CHARLES PAYNE (or PAINE) served in Revolution from  Virginia. resided in 1834 in Warren Co Tennessee aged 76. Having been born in 1758. I think this was my gr-gr-grandfather.
Thanking you
Helena Ash [Signature]

RECEIVED MAY 1 1936 MAIL SUB.-DIV.
VETS ADM
READER 117
3:00
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McMinnville, Tennessee, November 10, 1927
Mr. Winfield Scott
Pension Department
Washington D.C.

My dear Sir:
May I impose upon the courtesy and patience of your department and ask just one more time for the pension service of a Revolutionary Soldier:
Charles Payne enlisted from Virginia granted a pension in Warren County Tennessee in 1833. Charles Payne led a large

U.S. PENSION OFFICE
A
NOV. 12 1927
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connection of his family to this country in its early settlement but the descendants of whose people have forgotten what county in Virginia they came! Shall be gratefully obliged for any names or dates mentioned in Charles Paynes pension. With profound thanks for any courtesy or attention
Mrs. Blanch Bentley [Signature]McMinnville, Tennessee
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Commissioner of Pension
Pension Bureau
Washington D.C.
Will you kindly give pension record of Charles Payne enlisted from Virginia in War of Revolution and received pension from Warren Co. Tenn Name of persons or places and dates specially desired. Also Revolutionary pension record of William Stroud supposedly enlisted from North Carolina; lived later in Warren Co. Tenn.
Thanks you
Mrs. Blanche S. Bentley [Signature]
McMinnville Tennessee
September 29, 1926
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May 4, 1936.
BA-J/ILL
Charles Paine
S. 4643

Mrs. John Eldridge Bentley

McMinnville, Tennessee.

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Charles Payne, a pensioner of Warren County, Tennessee.
The data given herein were found in the papers on file in pension claim, S. 4643, based upon service of Charles Paine, or Payne, in that war. Charles Paine, or Payne, was born April 4, 1758 in Halifax County, Virginia, and lived there until five or six years of age; the names of his parents are not shown. He moved from there to Pittsylvania County, Virginia. While a resident of Pittsylvania, County, Virginia, he volunteered sometime in April 1774 and served three months as private in Captain John Davidson's company, Colonel Shelby's Regiment in the expedition against the Indians to Long Island on Holstein [Holston] River. He moved to Wilkes County, North Carolina, and enlisted there June 25, 1780 and served one month as private under Major Joel Lewis in Colonel Davidson's North Carolina regiment. He returned then to Pittsylvania County, Virginia, enlisted sometime in August 1781 and served three months as private in Captain William Dick's Virginia company in the defense of Yorktown. He served subsequently on various expeditions as scout and spy against the Indians in East Tennessee and Georgia, in all amounting to at least three months, officers names and specific dates not shown.
The soldier moved from Pittsylvania County, Virginia, to
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East Tennessee, that part which was later Hawkins County, and remained fourteen years, thence to Georgia where he resided nineteen years, and from there to Warren County, Tennessee. Charles Paine or Payne was allowed pension on his application executed April 3, 1833, at which time he resided in Warren County, Tennessee. He had been a resident of that county ever since moving from Georgia, with the exception of one year during which he resided in Marion County, Tennssee. His name was aborne Payne on the pension roll. The soldier died September 7, 1838. No reference was made to wife or children of the above noted soldier.
Very truly yours,

A.D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant 
to the Administrator.
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M.E.E.
Rev. & 1812 Wars
Section

September 19, 19??

Mrs. Blanche Bentley
McMinnville, Tennessee

Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 4643, it appears that Charles Paine or Payne was born April 4, 1758, in Halifax County, Virginia, While a resident of Pittsylvania, County, Virginia, he enlisted in April 1774 or 1775, and served three months in Captain John Davidson's company, Colonel Shelby's Regiment in the expedition against the Cherokee Indians.  While living in Wilkes County, North Carolina, he enlisted there June 26, 1780 and served one month under Major Joel Lewis in Colonel Davidson's North Carolina Regiment. In  Pittsylvania County, Virginia, while residing there, he enlisted in August, 1781, and served three months in Captain William Dick's Virginia company.  He subsequently served three months or more in scouting expeditions and as a spy in East Tennessee and Georgia, in all amounting to at least three months, dates and officers not given. He was allowed pension on his application executed April 4, 1833  , while a resident of Warren County, Tennessee.
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He died September 7, 1838. There are no data on file relative to his family.
Respectfully, 

E.W. MORGAN
Acting Commissioner.