Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8661, Charles Haney, Penn. Va.
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(3-1776)

SERVICE
Penn.
Va.

Haney, Charles

NUMBER
S.8661

carded
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CONTENTS
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16.023
North Carolina.
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Charles Haney
of Burke in the State of North Carolina
who was a pri: in the company commanded
by Captain Savage of the regt commanded
by 
Col. McAlister in the Pennsylvania
line for 9 mos & 11 days
[star]
Pa. and Va.
Records completed. Oct. 24/04 [initials]
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Inscribed on the Roll of North Carolina
at the rate of 31 Dollars 10 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
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Arrears to the 4th of March '33  -- 62.20
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept " --15.55
$77.75

{Revolutionary Claim.}
{Act June 7, 1832       }

Recorded by Wm. Miller Clerk,
Book E   Vol. 6   Page 42
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Date of death not on AB
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State of North Carolina
Burke County

On the [carrot inserted] 22nd [end of carrot] day of October 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Justices of the [carrot inserted] court of [end of carrot] pleas and a quarter sessions now serving for the county of Burke state aforesaid Charles Haney a resident of the said county and state aged 84 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the Act of Congress passed June the 7th 1833 
(viz)

He states that he first entered the service of the United States as a militia man in the year 1776 [carrot inserted] about the first of June [end of carrot] at little york in the state of Pennsylvania & marched under Capt Ben Savage Col McColesten or McAliston & Cl Kennedy to Philadelphia, from thence we were sent up the Delaware to Trenton in the State of New Jersey at Philadelphia I was transfered [sic] to the command of Captain McCasea & Lt. Corklow- from Trenton we went to Powleys Hook in New Jersey
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from Powleys Hook we marched to Fort Lee on the North River.  The British had passed in the City of New York - during this time there was two British vessels come up the North River & launch their troops on York Island took Fort Washington with a large number of our troops this was in September 1776 -about two days after this Genl. Washington evacuated Fort Lee & marched back to New Jersey & crossed into Pennsylvania.  There were several sick soldiers of which I was one sent down the Delaware in a small vessel to Philadelphia I remained there until after Trenton was taken after I got well enough the officers allowed me to go home  I got no written discharge - I got home the last of January 1777 - I then moved to the State of Virginia [carrot inserted] Prince Edward County [end of carrot] and was drafted for six months & put under the command Col. Lucas & Col. Downman Captain Jesse Owens.  We marched to Hillsborough Kocawhiner & there joined Genl Stevens  He marched us on to Rugeleys Mill some distance north of Camden in South Carolina where we fell in with Genl Gtes.  That night about halfway between the [illegible] at Camden the British attack is & defeated our whole army.  We were stationed all over the
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country without any regularity or order I made my escape the best way I could & got back to Hillsborough.  There were some five of the Virginia soldiers at this place we remained there five days & then returned home to Virginia the latter way [crossed out word] on the  - day 4 August 1780 
I did not serve out my whole tour, was about five months gone.  This was my last service.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension role of the agency of any state or of any state

Sworn to & subscribed the day & year
aforesaid
Charles Haney [signature]

Sworn to in open court
22nd October 1832
Justice J Erwin [signature] clk

We the undersigned Edward Goode & Andrew Hunter residing in the same county with Charles Haney the above petitioner and do hereby certify that we have been acquainted with him for several years and have full faith in the truth of his statements and oath.  Edward Goode further states on oath that he knew Charles Haney in Pennsylvania & knows that he was in the service of the United States previous to the taking of Trenton. And that he has been acquainted with him ever since.  That we have lived in the same county of Burke for upwards of twenty years.

Edw Goode
Andrew Hunter [signatures]

Sworn to in open court
22nd October 1832
Justice J Erwin Clerk
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[top of page - left-hand side - upside down]
Declaration x
Pension
Charles Haney

State of North Carolina}
Burke County               } SS

I James Reed presiding Justice of the Court of Common Pleas and quarter sessions for the County and State aforesaid do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories presented by the War department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states and I do further certify that Andrew Hunter and Edward Good who hath signed the preceding certificate are residents in the County of Burke and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit... Given under my hand & seal this 23rd ay of October AD 1832.

Jas Reed, Justice [seal]

State of North Carolina}
Burke County               } SS

I James Erwin Clerk of the Court of pleas and quarter sessions for the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original procedures of the said Court in the matter of the application of Charles Haney for a pension

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 23rd day of October AD 1832 and in 57th year of the independence of the U States
Justice J. Erwin Clerk [seal]
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November 11, 1937

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CHARLES HANEY
S. 8661
BA-J/MLB [unintelligible handwritten mark] [initials]

Mrs. George P. Byrne
160-06 - 33rd Avenue
Flushing, New York

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Edward Blackburn of Fairfax county, Virginia, and of Charles Haynie of Saint Stevens Parish, Northumberland County, Virginia.

There is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service in the Revolution of an Edward Blackburn, under any spelling of the name. Such claims are the source of data furnished by this office in regard to soldiers of the Revolutionary War. The record has been found of only one Charles Haney and that record follows as found in pension claim, S. 8661, based upon his service in the Revolutionary  War.

The date and place of birth and names of the parents of Charles Haney were not given.

He enlisted June 1, 1776, in Little York, Pennsylvania, served as private in Captains Ben Savage's and McCasea's companies, Colonels McAllister's and Kennedy's Pennsylvania regiments and was discharged between Christmas and New Year's Day. He moved to Prince Edward County, Virginia, where he enlisted June 1, 1780, served as private in Captain Jesse Owen's company, Colonels Lucas' and Downman's Virginia regiments, was in the battle of Camden August 16, 1780, and was discharged sometime in October, following, after having served a tour of little over four months.

The soldier was allowed pension on his application executed October 22, 1832, at which time he was aged eighty-four years and a resident of Burke County, North Carolina. He signed Charles Haney.

There are no family data shown in the claim.
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In order to obtain date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of 
Charles Haney, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:  Charles Haney, certificate #16023 [hand-written in pencil above the paragraph:  On agency bk Ctf no. shown as 13023 [underlined]]
issued June 25, 1833, rate $31.10 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act June 7, 1832, North Carolina Agency.

Very truly yours

A. D. Hiller
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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[piece of paper] 

This is seal of office
Sam P Carson
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[stamped RECIEVED
NOV 1 1937
MAIL SUB-DIV
READER No. 2
VETS ADM]

[handwritten]
160 - 06 33rd Ave
Flushing, N.Y.
Oct. 30, 1937

Veteran Administration Executive

My dear sir,-
Will you kindly let me know whether you have any Revolutionary War record of either an Edward Blackburn of Fairfax County or of Charles Haynie [only one written in pencil above name] of St. Stevens Parish Northumberland Co, Va.
Thanking you I am
Sincerely
(Mrs. Geo P Byrne) Eula M. Byrne
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[stamped U.S Pension Office
B.
Mar 2 1897]

[stamped Old War & Navy
Mar 10 1897
Files.]
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[letter W or M initialed at top right-hand corner]

Monmouth, His. [?]
Feb. 27, 1897

Hon. D. P. Murphy,
Washington, D.C.

My dear sir: -

Will you kindly give me the military record of Robert Wharton - wife named Sarah - in the War of 1776.  Do not know as either rec'd a pension, but enlisted from Virginia.

Also of Charles Hanah [sic] of Penn. name of wife unknown.

This information will be very thankfully rec'd, and I remain,

Very sincerely,
(Mrs.) J. H. Hanley.

[pension notation at bottom]
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1897 - History to
J. H. Hanley Ills.
Monmouth -
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1937, Nov. 11 - Hist to Mr. Geo P. Byrne -
NLB [initials]

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Rev War
Apr. 13 -
Mrs -

8661
INVALID.
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File No. 8661
Charles Haney
Priv Rev War
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Act:  June 7th 1832
Index:--Vol. [number illegible], Page 161

[Arrangement of 1870.]
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Charles Haney

Admit as approved

9  mo and 11 day
$31.10
and

S. P. Carson

[right-hand side of page]

6.26
1
2.15

9.11
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B  R I E F objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Charles Haney which require further proof or explanation.

I.  Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?  Yes [handwritten]

II.  Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes [handwritten]

III.  If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason for his not doing so?  

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?  No [handwritten]

V.  Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?  No [handwritten]
Each term should be distinctly set forth in an affidavit [handwritten]

VI.  Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?  Yes [handwritten]

VII.  Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?  Yes [handwritten]

VIII.  Has the Court given their opinion? Yes [handwritten]

IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate?  Yes [handwritten]

X.  Is the Clerk's seal affixed?  And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?  Yes [handwritten]
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? [handwritten no]

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? [handwritten none]

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, he has stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?

XIV. If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? [handwritten The Judge has]
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper office under his seal of office?

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? [handwritten yes]

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? [handwritten yes]

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them was not so answered?

EXPLANATORY NOTES.

Quere V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace. &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For _ year _ months and _ days. I served as a _. For _ months and _ days, I served as a _; and for such service I claim a pension."
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It is important in all cases to determine with prevision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.

+QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

+QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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State of North Carolina}
Burke County               } May 9th 1833

This day personally appeared before me David Glass one of the acting Justices of the peace for said county--Charles Haney and after being sworn in due form of law deposeth & sayeth in further explanation of his declaration to obtain a pension that he entered the service of the United States on the first day of June 1776-- & served as set forth in his declaration till he was discharged in Philadelphia between Christmas on 25th of December 1776 & New Years day of 1777--He got home about the last of January 1777 having served in actual service seven months it may have lacked a few days not known than three or four but he was eight months from home--He states he was next
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drafted in the State of Virginia Prince Edward County for six months his services & officers names are set forth in his declaration--he was mustered into service the last of May or first of June (say 1st day of June) [carrot inserted] 1780 [end of carrot] he served as stated in his declaration till Gates defeat near Camden N Carolina which was in the month of August 16th day 1780. He returned to Hillsborough North Carolina where some of the men & officers of his regiment were-- we remained there some time which he cannot state precisely he got home sometime in October of the same year he considers that he was in actual service from the first of June till sometime in October when he was discharged at Hillsborough which would be four months & a little more -- it will be for the Department to say whether
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they will allow him for the four months or only two & a half which was up to the battle near Camden on the 16th August 1780--Should he be allowed the four months his whole service will amount to eleven months otherwise it will be nine months & a half

The reason why no clergymen certified to my character was that there was none that I knew or that knew me at the Court house on the day I was qualified in court--I proved by Edward Good that he knew me in the service in 1776--and my character & standing by Edw Good & [crossed out word--looks like Col] Andrew Hunter was also proven & the court certified to their credibility & standing

Sworn to & subscribed }
before me date            }
above written               [

Charles Haney [signature]

D Glass JP
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Dr Sir

The plain simple & correct statement of old Mr. Haney places his claim beyond doubt.  I have known him since my infancy & no man stands [illegible] for truth & good citizenship his detail could you have it would inspire you at once with confidence

I hope there will be no further difficulty in his case--there was no clergyman in the village on the day the old mans declaration was made out--this was the case with all the claims I made out with the exception of one

David Glass is an acting Justice of the peace in & for this county & qualified the old man in my presents [sic]  It is fifteen miles from this to the clerks office & you must take my certificate which I know you dont [sic]  doubt--

Very truly yours
Sam T Carson [signature]

J. L. Edward Esq}
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