Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 23,351, for Noah Payn, New York
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SERVICE  |    |  NUMBER 

N. Y.  |  Payn, Noah  | S. 23,351
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2201
New York
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Noah Payn ... of Washington in the State of New York who was a Provate in the Company commanded by Captain Stockwell of the Reg(iment) commanded by Col. Warner in the New York line for 20 months & 4 days

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Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 6? Dollars 04 Cents per annun, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

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Certificate of Pension issued the 6th day of Fby? 1833 -- and sent to Hon H [name] H of R.

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Arrears to 4th of Sept 1832  |$100.56
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4th Mar? '33  | 33.52
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$135.08?

{Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.

Recorded by Geo C Stiles Clerk,
Book D.  Vol. 5.  Page 125?

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Death date no shown on A.B.
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Noah Payn

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Jny 22 '33

357?
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6660
444
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67.04

Han

Nathl Pitcher

H. R

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BRIEF in the case of Noah Payn of Fort Edward
County of Washington in the State of New York
(Act 7th June, 1832.)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?  In open court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? [blank]

3. How old is he? 73

4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

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Period.
Was called out by order of a [illegible]
Committee June in 1775
Was called out May 1778
Was drafted September 1778
Was drafted Janaury 1779
Enlisted June 1779
Ordered out June 1780
Enlisted May 1781

Duration of Service.
Years, Months, Days.
[blank for Was called out by order of a...]
- - 4
- 4 -
- 3 -
- 3 -
- 4 -
- 3 -
- 3 -

Rank.
as a 
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private
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Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.
Gen.
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Col. Alexr Campbell
Col. Seth Warner & Lieut Noah Payn N York State Troops
Capt. Stickwell. N Y2 Militia
Lieut Thos Bradshaw  "
Capt Harrison             "
Capt Long                  "
Lient Noah Payn         "

5.  In what battles was he engaged?  [blank]

6.  Where did he reside when he entered the service?  Fort Edward, New York

7.  Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?  By living witnesses & by traditionary evidence

8.  Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?  Not attached.

Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.

Chas G Wilcox [signature] Examining Clerk.
19. Jany 1833
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Noah Payn's
Declaration in order to obtain
the benefit of the act of
Congress passed June 7th 1832

admitted

20 mo. 4 days
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State of New York
County of Washington

On this 29th day of August 1832 personally appeared in open court before us the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Washington now sitting Noah Payn a resident of the town of Fort Edward in the County of Washington and State of New York aged seventy three years the 5th day of July last past who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. 

That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and service as herein stated that some time in the month of June in the year of 1775 I resided in the town of Fort Edward County of Washington and State of New York at which time once place this militia men all called out under the direction of a town committee and under the command of Col. Alexander Campbell who was appointed by the inhabitants of the town for the time being as the Militia were not at that time organized and were ordered to go to Ticonderoga and commenced our march and went about twenty miles when we were discharged and I returned  to my fathers home in Fort Edward aforesaid and I was in the service - four days that the said Alexander Campbell afterward went over and joined the enemy and did not return I continued to reside with my father at Fort Edward aforesaid untill the 8th day of July 1777 when all the inhabitants fled and left the country from before Gen. Burgoyne and his Army and I with my fathers family moved into the town of Tawnel in the State of Vermont and about the 17th day of October  after Burgoyne surrendered we moved back to Fort Edward aforesaid where I resided untill sometime in the month of May in the year 1778 when I was called out into the service under the command of Lieut. Noah Payn commandant on the account of attacks? almost continually during the whole time of Spring and Summer and sometimes we were sent out in scouting parties under
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the command of Col Seth Warner and his officers who were stationed at Fort Edward and Fort George that our country in these parts was  ?? by the Indians and Tories Continually and I served during this time four months when I returned to my Fathers in Fort Edward aforesaid untill in the month of September in the year 1778 I was drafted from the New York Militia and again went into the service of the United States under the command of Capt Stockwell and Lieut Thomas Boggs and with the company marched to Skenesboraugh now the town of White Hall in Said County when we were Stationed and sent out in Scouting parties -- I scounted on and about Lake Champlain, Ticondaroga Crown Point and many other places at which time the British kept a guard Ship about five miles below Crown point on Lake Champlain and we were frequently Sent there to watch their Movements 

I was in the Service untill in December when we all were discharged  I served at this time three months and did the duty of Private Soldiers and returned to my Fathers in Fort Edward aforesaid -- and in the fore part of January following in the year of 1779 I was again drafted from the New York Militia and I went under the command of Lieut Thomas Bradshaw Commandant and marched back to Skenesboraugh now the town of Whitehall aforesaid where we were stationed as a guard during the winter until sometime in the month of April [note in left margin]  3 mo  [/note] my duty as a private soldier three months and returned to Fort Edward aforesaid where I resided untill sometime in June in the same year of 1779 I volunteered and engaged in the United States Service under the command of Capt Harrison who was an officer engaged in the New York State troop for nine Months Service and we marched first to Fort George and there we went on board of boats and rowed and Sailed down Lake George to Ticondaroga where we landed and marched throug the woods to Crown point on Lake Champlain from there we traveled about
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twenty miles into the wood and went on to a Mountain on the Lake Shore where we remained a few days and returned back to Fort Edward and there we were imployed and went out in Scouting parties Continually through the woods from one place to another - that were engaged primarily in scouting out the Indians and Tories who were Plundering killing and taking off the inhabitants prisoners into Canada.

I served during this time and did my duty for the term of four Months. I returned then home to my Fathers family in the town of Fort Edward aforesaid where I resided until in the month of June in the year of 1780 when Gov. George Clinton Commander in Chief came in person and ordered out the Militia in May, and at that time went into the Service under the command of Capt Long we were directed to ? at Fort Edward after which we marched to Lake George from thence we went in boats down the Lake to Ticondaroga where we remained a few days and then we went to Crown point on Lake Champlain. 

It was at the time understood that the cause of this alarm was created by a party of about 500 who had come from Canada to get a quantity of Silver ?? that had been secreted and buried by Sir John Sahman somewhere in Johnstown and our object was to cut off their retreat on return into Canada but we learned by some of our Scouts probably they had got past us and beyond our reach and we returned to Fort Edward where the majority or most of the men were discharged but I continued in the Service by being called on continually time after time by alarms and otherwise during the Summer and fall and I served during this Season altogether for the term of three [not in left margin] 3 Mo [/note] months when I returned to my Fathers whre I resided until about the the month of May in the year of 1781. I again volunteered and went into the United States Service under the command of Lieut Noah Payn Commandant
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that the year before this Fort Ann and Fort George were taken by the British and Kingsbury was burnt and on the next tides ? of the river Hudson was also burned from opposite Fort Edward to Fort William and a number of our Officers belonging to the Militia and men were made Prisoner and taken to Canada and the Indians and Tories were committing their depredation among us and we had to be on the look out and were driven from one place to another to stop these savages but notwithstanding all our efforts there were Eleven of our most valiant Citizens taken away to Canada by the Indians and Tories during this Season and there were but a few efficient men left and with that few did my [note in left margin] 3 Mo [\note} duty as a private Soldier three months after which I returned to the town of Fort Edward where I now reside and have aided our Lines.

I was born at D. 1759 in town of Warren,? Connecticut that I do not know other in word of my age except a family ?  That I never received a written discharge and have no documentary evidence and know of no person whose testimony I can procure? who can testify to my Service except Nathan Durkee and Lydius Durkee whose affidavits are hereunto annexed  That Samuel Bennet Otis Allen who lives in the neighbourhood who can testify to my character for varasity and their belief of my Service as a Soldier in the revolution --

I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State

Sworn and Subscribed
the day and year aforesaid

J. S. Leigh Clk

[signature]Noah Payn[/signature]

The? Samuel Bennet residing in the town of Fort Edward County and State aforesaid and Otis Allen residing in the town of Grinwich and County aforesaid hereby certify that we are acquainted with
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declaration that we believe him to be seventy three years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that Opinion

Sworn and Subscribe
the day and year aforesaid}

J. S. Leigh Clk

{signatures] Samuel Bennet  Otis Allen[/signatures]

And the Court do hereby declare their Opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary Soldier and Serviced as he States  And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Samuel Bennet resident in the town of Fort Edward and that Otis Allen who has also Signed his name is a resident in the town of Grenwich are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit

I John? S Leigh Clerk of the Court of Washington County Common Pleas do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the Court in the matter of the application of Noah Payn for a Pension

In testimony whereof i have Set my hand and Seal of my office this 29th day of August 1832

[signature] J. S. Leigh Clk [/signature]
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State of New York}
County of Washington}Ss

Nathan Durkee of the town of Fort Edward being duly Sworn according to Law deposeth and Saith he is well acquainted with Noah Payn and have known him sixty years and was in the Revolution war with him whose declaration is hereunto annexed in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th, 1832 and that deponent further Saith he was knowing? to Noah Payn's entering the Service and of his serving and  doing his Duty in Capt Starkwell Company at Skenesboraugh commencing the month of September 1778 continued in the Service until in December and Service three months and this deponent further Saith than in January 1779 he Noah Payn was again drafted and sent into the Service under Lieut Thomas Bradshaw and went again to Skeenbough and continued in the Service until April was in the Service three months that I was in thee Same Company and Service with him in both the above terms and that he was discharged by his officers and further this deponent ? Says not.

[signature]Nathan Durkee[\signature]

I certify that the above oath or affidavit was taken before me in due form of law on the 20th day of August AD 1832

John Moss a Judge of
Washington County Courts

State of new York County of Washington Ss

I Jesse S Leigh clerk of the Said County do certify that John Moss before whom the preceding affidavit purports to have been Sworn to was at the date of the Same one of the Judges of Washington County Courts and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name Subscribed to the said affidavit to be his proper hand writing and Signature

Witness my hand and Seal of Office this 4th day of September 1832

J. S. Leigh Clk
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State of New York County of Washington Ss

Lydius Durkee of Fort Edward being duly Sworn according to Law deposeth and Saith his is well acquainted with Noah Payn and has been for sixty years and that he was a part of the time in the revolutionary war with him and this deponent further Saith that Noah Payn whose declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 is hereunto annexed was drafted from the New York Militia in January in the ? year of 1779 and sent into the Service with the United States in the revolutionary war under the command of Lieut Thomas Bradshaw and Stationed at Skenesboraugh and Service ? and did his duty for three months and this deponant further Saith he verily believes he served in Capt Starkwells Company at Skenesbough in 1778 was knowing to his being in the Company when he left Fort Edward and this deponant further Saith from all the circumstances and knowledge of the revolutionary war he believes Noah Payn Served during the Revolutionary war all the time and times he has set within his Said declaration and further this deponant Saith not.

[signature]Lydius Durkee [/signature]

I certify that the above oath or affidavit was taken before me in due form of Law on the 20th day of August 1832

John Moss a Judge of 
Washington County Courts

State of new York County of Washington Ss

I Jesse S Leigh clerk of the Said County do certify that John Moss before whom the preceding affidavit purports to have been Sworn to was at the date of the same one of the Judges of Washington County Courts and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name Subscribed to the said affidavit to be his proper hand writing and Signature   Witness my hand and Seal of Office this fourth day of September 1832

J. S. Leigh Clk
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The declaration of Noah Payn was subscribed? to me by the Hon John Moss one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Washington NY and he ? me that it was on the proceed? form on which it came from the Court. I believe it [illegible] has not been altered? since it came to my hands? - The writing? to the services of Payn ? Nathan Durkee and Lydius Durkee are honorable, more readable ?

Nathl Pitcher
Jany 26, 1833

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Noah Payn's
Declaration in order to obtain
the benefit of the Act of
Congress passed June 7th 1832

Admitted

20 mo 4 days

Don?

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The above named Noah Payn is a man of Farm? and excellent character, and I have perfect confidence in the truth of his testament.

Nathl Pitcher
Sandy Hill Sept 20 1832
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The above named Noah Payn is a man of fair? and excellent character and I have perfect confidence in the truth of his statement.
Nathl Pitcher
Sandy Hill Sept 20 1832

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Noah Payn's

Declaration in Order to obtain
the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7 1832

Admitted

20 mo 4 days

Don?
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July 15, 1937.

Mrs. S. F. Butterworth
79 Forest Avenue
Glen Ridge, New Jersey.

BA-J/ILL
Noah Payn
S. 23351

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letters and that of Samuel Fowler Butterworth, in which requests are made for the Revolutionary War records of Noah Payn (Pain) of Albany County, New York, David Pearce (Pierce) who served in the Connecticut troops and whose widow was Phebe, and Enos Rockwell of New York, and the War of 1812 records of Captains Henry and James Butterworth of the Orange County New York militia.

There is no claim for pension on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of the David Pearce sited by you, nor of any Enos Rockwell, not is there a claim for pension on file based upon service in the War of 1812 of Henry or James Butterworth, nor record of issuance of warrant for bounty land on account of their services in that war; similar spellings of the surname have been used in the search of the records. The record of Noah Payn is furnished herein as it may aid you in your research; the data given were found in his claim for pension, S.23351, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.

Noah Payn was born July 5, 1759 in Warren, Connecticut, and at the beginning of the Revolutionary War, lived with his father and the family at Fort Edward, Washington County, New York; the names of his parents are not given.

Noah Payn enlisted in June 1775, at Fort Edward, and served four days under Colonel Alexander Campbell. He continued to reside at Fort Edward until July 8, 1777, then fled with his father from General Burgoyne's Army to Pownal, Vermont, where he remained until after Burgoyne's surrender, October 17, 1777, then returned to Fort Edward. He enlisted in the spring of 1778 and served four months as private under Lieutenant Noah Payn (no relationship between these two stated), a part of the time under Colonel Set Warner who was stationed at Fort Edward, engaged against
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the Indians and Tories in that vicinity. He enlisted in September 1778, and served three months as private in Captain Stockwell's company, stationed a part of the time at Skeensborough; he enlisted next in January 1779 and served three months under Lieutenant Thomas Bradshaw; he enlisted in June 1779, and served four months in Captain Harrison's New York company, then returned to his father's house at Fort Edward; he enlisted in June 1780 and served three months in Captain Long's New York company; he enlisted in May 1781, and served three months under Lieutenant Noah Payn, engaged on the Canadian border against the Tories and Indians.

Noah Payne was allowed pension on his application executed August 28, 1832, at which time he resided at Fort Edward, Washington County, New York. The soldier made no reference to wife or children.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid, and, possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should apply to The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following:

Noah Payn
Certificate #6201
Issued February 6, 1833
Rate $67.04
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832,
New York Agency.

Very truly yours,

A. D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.


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CHAS. B. TEMPLETON,
LAWYER.
ALBANY COUNTY BANK BUILDING.
ALBANY, N.Y.

Department of the Interior
bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

[stamp]
PENSION
K
MAY
23
1900
OFFICE
U S [/STAMP]

Gentlemen:

I am desirous of learning the record if any contained in your office of the service alleged to have been rendered the government during the Revolution, by one Noah Payn, at or near Fort Miller Washington County New York, where he settled in about 1755 and died Dec 14/06, his wife being Eunice Hawley Payn.

Tradition says he was engaged in what now would be called "secret service."

Upon receipt of statement, will forward charges for services to be rendered.

Very Resply
Chas B Templeton

May 21, 1900

[stamp]0. 2. [illegible]
MAY 25
RECEIVED
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Revolution

23351

INVALID.

File No. 23,351
Noah Payn
Pri Revolution

Act June 7, 1832
Index:-- Vol. 2, Page 313

[Arrangement of 1879.]

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May - 26- 1900
Chas. B. Templeton
Albany, N. Y.

1937 - Hist. to Mrs. S. F. Butterworth -
1937 - Aug 24 S.F. Butterworth LL
adv. no further info in re-Lt. Noah Payn
received in this case. MNG
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August 24, 1937.

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Mrs. S. F. Butterworth  | BA-J/MMHF/ady
79 Forest Avenue   | Noah Payn
Glen Ridge, New Jersey   | S.23351

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request further information in regard to Lieutenant Noah Payn under whom Noah Payn, Revolutionary War pensioner (S.23351), served.

There is no further information in the above cited pension claim in regard to Lieutenant Noah Payn than was given in the report furnished you July 15, 1937, nor is there a claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of that officer, hence this office has no further information in regard to him.

It is suggested that further information in regard to his military service might be obtained from The Adjutant General, War Department, Washington, D.C.

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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SAMUEL F. BUTTERWORTH
79 FOREST AVENUE
GLEN RIDGE, N. J.

A. D. Hiller, ?   |   Reference
Veterans Administration   |  BA-J/ILL
   |   Noah Payn
Washington, DC   |   S23351

Dear Sir,

I thank you very much for the information you have given me in your letter of July 15th

It is evidently Lieut. Noah Payn in whom I am most interested.  He died Dec. 14 - 1806 and it was his son Benjamin Hawley Payn who was my wifes ancestor. I have no doubt the Noah who entered the claim for pension was the son of Lieut Noah. This I can verify as you have given me the date and place of birth. Anyway as the Noah who got the pension served under Lieut. Noah he too much have been in the service of his county. By our family records I find that Noah Sr. had a son Noah born about the date give (1759)

If you have any other information about Lieut. Noah Payn I should be very grateful to you for sending it to me

Yours very truly

S. F. Butterworth

Aug 2 - 1837
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79 Forest Ave.,
Glen Ridge, New Jersey

Veterans Administration
Pension Bureau
Washington, D.C.

{stamp} RECEIVED
JUN 28 1937
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS ADM  12
READER ?

Gentlemen

Can you give me any information regarding the military service in the Revolutionary War of Noah Payn (or Pain)

In the burned records at Albany Vol 2 Page 121  (Feb. 4 - 1779)

Col. Alexander Webster's Reg.
Capt. Edward Long

#8302   Noah Pain   (The rest is burned off)

I also find in a printed book that Noah Pain was 1st Lieut. in Alexander Webster Lieut Col Reg.

Noah Payn is my Great Great Grand father

Elizabeth Pearce (Rockwell) Butterworth
Mrs S. F. Butterworth

June 26 - 1937
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79 Forest Ave
Glen Ridge, New Jersey

Veteran's Administration
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

[stamp]
RECEIVED
JUN 28 1937
[ILLEGIBLE]

Gentlemen

Can you give me any information regarding the Revolutionary War service of

David Pearce (Pierce)

He was discharged Sept 2 - 1775 from the 4th Regiment in Conn.  Col. Benjamin Hinman Woodbury.

Was also discharged April 13 - 1780 Eighth Regiment Commanded by Lieut Col Isaac Sherman Connecticut Line.

Did David Pearce or his widow Phebe ever receive a pension?

David Pearce is my Great Great Grand father

Yours very truly

Elisabeth Pearce (Rockwell) Butterworth
Mrs F. F. Butterworth

June 26 - 1937
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79 Forest Ave.,
Glen Ridge, N.J.

Veterans Administration
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C. 

[stamp]
RECEIVED
JUN 28 1937
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS ADM  12
READER ?

Gentlemen,

Can you give me any information regarding the Military service of

Enos Rockwell

I find this name in the burned records at Albany.  Vol 1 Page 128  (Dec 1 - 1781)

Levies(?)

Col Weissenfelt,  Cpt? Andrew White's Co
#3111  Enos Rockwell  Private [unknown symbol - British pound?] 9:17:4

also

Vol  3  Page 121  (Nov 22 - 1779)
Col Roswell Hopkins,  Cpt Ozar Barnum
#13489  Enos Rockwell  [symbol] 3:4:0

If you can give me any further information I should greatly appreciate having it

Enos Rockwell was my Great Grand father

Yours very truly

Elizabeth Pearce (Rockwell) Butterworth
Mrs S F. Butterworth

June 26 - 1937
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79 Forest Ave.
Glen Ridge, N.J.

Veterans Administration
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

[round received stamp on top right of page]
3:15
RECEIVED
JUN 28, 1937
[illegible] SUB-DIV.
[illegible] ADM
[illegible] 12

Can you give me any information regarding the Military service of

[checkmark] Henry. Butterworth [underlined]
and [checkmark] James Butterworth [underlined]

[handwritten in on right side of page]
No OW.
nor is of G, C. ert [ert is underlined]

Who both served or Captains in the Orange Co. Militia during the later part of the War of 1812 [War of 1812 is underlined]

I am the Grandson of Henry Butterworth and James was his brother.

Yours very truly
Samuel Fowler Butterworth

June 26, 1937