Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 31,060, John Gibson, Va.
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SERVICE: Va.
Gibson, John
NUMBER: S. 31,060
CONTENTS
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12936
Kentucky
John Gibson
of Allen Co. in the State of Kentucky who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Ramsey of the _____ commanded by _______ in the Virginia line for 8 months

...scribed on the Roll of Kentucky the rate of 26 Dollars 66 cents per annum ...commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.

Certificate of Pension issued the 15th day of July 1833 and sent to Jacob W Walker Scottsville

Arrears to the 4th of March 
Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Sept $66.65

{Revolutionary Claim, 
Act June 7, 1832.}
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John Gibson
from 1777 private
8 months.
514. $26.66/100
P 246
Feb. 16 '33
Jacob W. Walker,
Scottsville
Ken
CI
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BRIEF in the case of John Gibson
County of Allen in the State of Kentucky
(Act 7th June, 1832.)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? -

3. How old is he? 72

4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

Period.
[1] enlisted in 1777 fall
[2] [illegible]
[3] Vol. 1781 Feb.
Duration of Service. Years, Months, Days.
[1] upwards 3 Months
[2] not stated
[3] not stated precisely, he served in all nine months, to the best of his belief.
Rank. As a
[1] private
[2] "
[3] "
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Gen.
[1] Capt. Dennis Ramsey, Cols. George Gilpin, & Rumney. [illegible] James Wren, Genl Charles Scott -
[2] Col. J. Allison -
[3] Capt. Little, Col. D. Ramsey

5. In what battles was he engaged? none

6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Fairfax Cty, Va.

7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? witness & traditionary

8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.

[signed] J. Waugh Examining Clerk.
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State of Kentucky Allen County Court, Term 1833.
On this the 8th day of Apl 1833 personally appeared in Open Court before Robert McClary John Caruth, John Whitney Saml Hunter Thomas Sutton Amos Harris, & Thomas Caruth
Justices of said Court then in the Courthouse of said County in court sitting John Gibson a resident of said County and Seventy two years the sixth day of August last, who being first duly Sworn according to law, doth on his Oath make the following declaration in Order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.
This applicant upon his said Oath deposeth and saith that by reason of Old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his services as a Soldier in the Revolutionary War; but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following grades, For three months - days he served as a private under Captain Dennis Ramsey. For three months - days he served as a private under Captain Little. For Two months - days he served as a private under Colo Allison making in all Eight months - days and for such services he claims a pension.
Applicant states that he was born in the county of Fairfax in the State of Virginia on the sixth day of August 1760 as he always understood and believes and as the family register in his possession shows. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the town of Alexandria in the County and State last aforesaid in which County he then resided and in the Summer or the fall of the year 1777 the month and day not recollected, under Captain Dennis Ramsey and served in his Company as private during the time mentioned above 
That said company was in part composed of Volunteers, part of drafted Militia and was attached to the Regiment commanded by Colonels Ramsey or Rumbly and George Gilpin and a Major James Wren the names of the other officers not now remembered. Applicant states that very shortly after his enlistment in Captain Ramsey's company as aforesaid, he marched with the Regiment from Alexandria, through Georgetown and Fredericktown in Maryland, from thence through Yale and Lancaster in Pennsylvania and joined the main army of the United States on its retreat after the battle of Germantown, a few miles only from that place and on the day of the battle. That shortly after the said Regiment joined the Army as aforesaid it was attached to the Brigade under Command of General Charles Scott. That said Regiment continued to reconnect and observe the movements of the enemy for some time untill in December 1777 to the best of applicants recollection, he and the men generally comprising said Regiment were discharged at a place called the [illegible]camp having served at least three months __ days as a private Soldier as above set forth to the best of his recollection. Applicant recollects that he got home in Fairfax County aforesaid a few days only not now then three, before Christmas 1777. Applicant states that sometime after his return as aforesaid he enlisted in the regular Service as a Soldier of the Revolution under Colo Allison of the Regulars, to the best of his recollection, for eighteen months, which enlistment was in Alexandria aforesaid the month and day not recollected. That he remained in Alexandria under the Command of Colo. Allison for at least two months as above set forth. That applicants Mother a Widow having no person to take care of or protect her and her farm and stock prevailed with Colo. Allison
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to discharge applicant upon furnishing a proper substitute, wherefore Richard Sandford was was accepted by the Colonel and served as he was informed during the term and in the place and stead of Applicant.
He further states that in January or February 1781 he again entered in the Revolutionary Army in the town of Alexandria aforesaid under Captain Little commanding a company in the Regiment of Virginia Militia under the Command of Colo. Dennis Ramsey that shortly afterwards applicant marched under said officers and others whose names he does not now recollect to Williamsburg Virginia and from thence to Y or D. That he was attached to a party of Observation, to recommorte and observe the British under command of Arnold and Philips (as he thinks) who were devastating the country on the bodies of James and Appomatocks Rivers. That he returned with said party to Williamsburg from thence with them proceeded to Richmond either in the latter part of April or first of May when and where he was discharged. Applicant states that he served at least three months __ days as a private in Captain Littles Company. Applicant states that he has no written discharge and does not now distinctly recollect ever having any written discharge & if ever had a discharge he has lost it and cannot now produce it.
This applicant states that he was not in any general engagement with the enemy. That he was with the picket guard at Burwells Ferry four miles below Williamsburg when the British landed the guard being unable to retain their position retired to Williamsburg and were pursued by the enemy into that town the guard retreated for some miles untill we joined the Regiment, after which we all returned to Williamsburg and at night had a skirmish with the British, and were by them repulsed. Applicant hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the Agency of any State. That he has no documentary or other evidence and no witness to support his claim saving the Individual whose deposition is hereto attached, so far as he knows and has no means of proving either by documentary or other evidence further. That he resided in Fairfax County Virginia untill his removal to Kentucky where he has resided ever since and where he now resides as set forth above. Applicant refers to the Reverend Jesse S Hickman and others whose Certificates hereto offered to prove his character for truth and belief of Service.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid 
[illegible signature]

I the undersigned a Citizen of Allen County Kentucky being first duly sworn according to law depose and say, That the foregoing statements of John Gibson have been by me read. that this deponent served in Captain Thomas Pollards Company and in the Regiment commanded by Colonels Rumney (or Rumbly) and Gilpin, that said Regiment rendezvoused in Alexandria in September 1777 and proceeded from thence through Maryland and into Pennsylvania as by said Gibson set forth, deponent served the whole tour upwards of three months until the discharge at the Wet Camp. All the particulars stated by Gibson as to the names of Officers, the March of the regiment, joining the Main Army, being attached to Scotts Brigade and our discharge at the Wet Camp and by deponent distinctly recollected. Deponent lived in Fairfax County Virginia in the year 1777 and for some years after. Deponent
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remembers hearing of Colo. Allison recruiting at Alexandria for the Regular Service, he this deponent thinks in the year 1778 or 1779. He has a distinct and clear recollection of often hearing of Colo. Ramseys regiment marching from Alexandria for Williamsburg
Deponent has no Knowledge of applicant Gibson untill their removal to Kentucky. He has known said Gibson in this County many years, has often heard him make the same statements (in substance about his services in the Revolutionary War, set forth in his declaration above. He further states that said Gibsons character for truth so far as he has ever heard is unquestionable.
Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Elisha Warden

we Benjamin Bayley and Jesse L. Hickman Clergymen residing in the County of Allen and State of Kentucky and William Strait Cuthbert Burton all of us residing in the County and State last aforesaid do hereby Certify that we are well acquainted with John Gibson who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration and also with Elisha Warden who has subscribed and sworn to the above deposition And we further Certify that the reputation of said Gibson and said Warden for truth is good. That we believe said Gibson to be seventy two years Old, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he lives to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that Opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
Benjamin Bailey
Jesse L Hickman
William Strait
Cuthbert Burton

And the said Court do hereby declare their Opinion, after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War department, that the above named applicant John Gibson was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states. And the Court further Certifies that it appears to them in proof that said Benjamin Bayley and Jesse L Hickman Clergyman resident in Allen County State of Kentucky, and that the Deponent Elisha Warden and said William Strait and Cuthbert Burton
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in Allen County and State of Kentucky. That said applicant Gibson and the deponent Warden and all the persons who have subscribed and sworn to the foregoing Certificate are creditable persons and their statements well entitled to Credit.
Robert McClary JPAC
Signed by} Presiding Justice of the Allen County Court Kentucky

I David Walker Clerk of the County Court of Allen County State of Kentucky do certify that the foregoing contains the Original proceedings in the Court aforesaid at the Apl Term 1833 of the same, in the matter of the Application of John Gibson for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of said Court and of my office this 9th day of Apl. 1833.
David Walker

John Gibson
To} Application Pension
War Department.

Walker draft
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December 24, 1936
John Gibson
S. 31060
BA-J/AWF

Mrs. J. H. Woodard
Springfield
Tennessee

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your request for the Revolutionary War record of John Gibson of Virginia and after the war moved to Allen County, Kentucky.

The data which follow were obtained from pension claim, S. 31060, based upon the service of John Gibson in the Revolutionary War.

John Gibson was born August 6, 1760 in Fairfax County, Virginia, names of his parents not stated.

While a resident of Fairfax County, Virginia, John Gibson enlisted in Alexandria and served as a private with the Virginia troops, as follows-
In 1777, three months in Captain Dennis Ramsey's company, Colonels Rumney's or Rumbly's and George Gilpin's regiment; in 1778 or 1779, two months in Colonel Allison's regiment; fromearly in 1781, three months in Captain Little's company, Colonel Dennis Ramsey's regiment.

He moved from Fairfax County, to Kentucky. He was allowed pension on his application executed April 8, 1833, then a resident of Allen County, Kentucky.

The papers in this claim contain no reference to
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wife or children of the soldier, John Gibson. His mother was a widow during the Revolutionary War.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid, and possibly the date of death of this pensioner, you should apply to The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and give the following;

John Gibson
Certificate # 13936
Issued July 15, 1833
Rate $ 26.66 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Kentucky Agency.

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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31.060
Revy INVALID.
File No. 31,060
John Gibson
Pri Rev War
Act: June 7" 32'
Index:-Vol. 2, Page 154
[Arrangement of 1870.]

1929 Sept. 20. hist to Dr. C. O. Calvert MCS
1932 - May 14 - Cong. John W Moore adv. as he [illegible] to obtain date of last pay of pension - AWF
1936 - July 14 - [illegible]
1936 - Dec 24 " " [illegible]
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John Gibson
Rev. Pension} Ky
Case examined this 8th Feb/48

L B True
Present
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Gibson which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for him not doing so? -

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes

V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? No yes

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? 

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? -

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? witness

XIV. [notation sign 1]If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his services, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? No
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office? -

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes

XVI. [notation sign 2]Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? [crossed out: 6. 7]
_________________________
EXPLANATORY NOTES.

*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For ___________ year _____________ months, and _________ days, I served as a ______________ For _____________ months and ___________ days, I served as a _______________; and for such service I claim a pension.”
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase "about three or four months" is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[notation sign 1]QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[notation sign 2]QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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[stamp 1]
RECEIVED NOV 18 1936
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS ADM READER # 5

[stamp 2]
RECEIVED NOV 20 1936
RECORD SECT. INDEX
SUB-DIV.
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Veterans' Administration Springfield. Tenn.
Washington. Nov - 15 - 1936
W. C. Black Ch. Clk.
Dear Sir -
I have your letter of Oct. 30. 1936 - in reply to an inquiry from me - you say you have nothing of John Foster I must have let my pen slip (or my mind)- I am interested in Lt. Robt. & Capt James Foster but no John - what I wanted was record of John Gibson. [clerk note: 11 of Va] of Culpepper Co. Va - who was granted a pension & bond in Allen or Barren Co. Kentucky, - I hope to find names of wife and children 
Sincerely Yours
Mrs. J. H. Woodard
(Springfield, Tenn.)
[clerk note: it is not stated in Virg in Fairfax Co Va]
[clerk note: Gibson Send file]
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request for Rev. War record of John Gibson S. 31060-ctf no 13936.
Record fur. & applciation for headstone returned also letter from C.A. Calbert M.D. of Scottsville-Ky returned
AWF
July 14-36
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War Department 
Office of the Quartermaster General
Washington

7-7-1936

Memorandum for
The Surgeon General,
Bureau of Navigation, Navy Department,
Commandant, United States Coast Guard, Treasury Department,
The Commissioner of Pensions, Interior Building
General Accounting Office, F. Street, Between 4th & 5th, N.W.

1.  The attached application has been submitted to this office for Government headstone to be erected at the grave of the decedent named thereon.  In order that the proper inscription may be placed on the stone it would be appreciated if your office would verify the name and service on the application, checking and making such corrections in red ink as may be necessary to show the correct spelling of the name and complete designation of the organizations.
2.  In addition, please advice State from which decedent came.

[STAMP]
Received Jul 8 1936
Mal sub-div.
Vets Adm.
Reader #36
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Jno. W. Moore
3d Dist. Kentucky

Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Washington, D.C.

May 12, 1932

GIBSON, John
S. 31060
Rev. and 1812 Wars Section

Mr. E.W. Morgan
Director of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:-
Under date of September 20, 1929, your Bureau furnished Dr. C.A. Calvert, Scottsville, Kentucky, report as to record of the above soldier.  Please advise me if your records show anything as to the date, or approximate date, of death of this veteran.
Very truly yours,
Jno W. Moore

[STAMP]
Received
May 13, 1932
Recept Section
Pension Files Sub-Division
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C.A. Calvert, M.D.
Scottsville, KY.

June 15th, 1929

The Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
Will you please send me the pension record of John Gibson, a soldier of the Revolution.  He was pensioned in Barren Co. Ky. Glosgow was the county seat town.  He died where he had lived since coming to Ky. but by the creation of a new county, (Allen).  He died in the latter county. Scottsville Ky. was the county seat of Allen County.  He may have received his mail here in his last days or Pageville, Ky. Barren County.
Thanking you for your kindness
I am yours respt.
C.A. Calvert, M.D.
Scottsville, Ky.

[STAMP]
U.S. Pension Office
O
Jun 17 1929
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May 14, 1932
BA-J/AWF

John Gibson
S. 31060

Honorable John W. Moore
House of Representatives
Washington, D.C.

My dear Mr. Moore:

Reference is made to your letter of May 12, in which you request the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Gibson, S. 31060.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name of person to whom paid and probably the date of death of the above noted pensioner, you should apply to the  Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D.C., citing all of the following data:
John Gibson
Certificate Number 13936
Issued July 15, 1833
Rate $26.66 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Kentucky Agency

Very truly yours

A.D. Hiller
Assistant to Administrator
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Rev. and 1812
Wars Section
MCS/HMM

September 20, 1929.

Dr. C. A. Calvert
Scottsville
Kentucky.

Dear Sir:

I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 31060, it appears that John Gibson was born August 6, 1760 in Fairfax County, Virginia.
While a resident of Fairfax County, Virginia, he enlisted in Alexandria and served as a private with the Virginia Troops as follows:
From some time in the summer or fall of 1777, three months in Captain Dennis Ramsey's Company, in Colonels Rumney's or Rumbley's and George Gilpin's Regiment; in 1778 or 1779, two months under Colonel Allison; from January or February 1781, three months in Captain Little's Company, in Colonel Dennis Ramsey's Regiment, and was in the skirmish at Williamsburg.
He was allowed pension on his application executed April 8, 1833, at which time he was living in Allen County, Kentucky.
There are no data relative to his family.

Very truly yours,

EARL D. CHURCH
Commissioner.
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July 14, 1936
John Gibson-S.31060
BA-J/AWF

The Quartermaster General
Memorial Branch
War Department
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your request for the Revolutionary War record of John Gibson, private in the Virginia troops, who died in Kentucky.

Then data furnished herein were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S. 31060, based upon the service of John Gibson in the Revolutionary War.

He was born August 6, 1760 in Fairfax County, Virginia, names of his parents not stated.

While a resident of Fairfax County, Virginia, John Gibson enlisted in Alexandria and served as a private with the Virginia troops, as follows:

From some time in the summer or fall of 1777, three months in Captain Dennis Ramsey's company, Colonels Rumney's or Rumbly's and George Gilpin's regiment; in 1778 or 1779, two months in Colonel Allison's regiment; from sometime in January or February, 1781, three months in Captain Little's company, Colonel Dennis Ramsey's regiment.

He moved from Fairfax County, Virginia to Kentucky. He was allowed pension on his application executed, April 8, 1833, then a resident of Allen County, Kentucky.

The papers in this claim contain no reference to
Very truly yours,

EARL D. CHURCH
Commissioner.
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wife or children of the soldier, John Gibson. His mother was a widow during the Revolutionary War.

The application for headstone for John Gibson and a letter from C. A. Calvert, M. D. from Scottsville, Kentucky are returned herewith.

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator