Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 23661, Derick Groot, Mass.
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Service
Mass

Groot, Derick

Number
S.23661
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24,372
New York
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Derick Groot
-------- in the state of New York
who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Ostrom in the Regt commanded by Col. Nichols in the Me---- line for 6 months

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Inscribed on the Roll of New York
at the rate of 20 Dollars 00 Cents per annum 
to commence on the 4th day of March 1831
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Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of Nove 
1833 and sent to G. F. Yates Schenectady 

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Arrears to the 4 Sept '33-----------------$50
Semin allowance adding 4 M '34---------10
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{Revolutionary Claim
Act June 7 1832}

RECORDED BY Geo C. Stiles Clerk
Book E Vol 4 Page 102
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19852  14
On the matter of the application
of 
Derick Groot
for a pension
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Proceedings
No 75 to the care
Giles F. Yates
Schecnectady N.Y.
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State of New York
County of Schenectady ss

On this eighteenth day of October one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Comm pleas in & for said county Derick Groot a resident of the city of Schenectady in said county aged eighty five years, who being duly sworn according to law, doth make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 1832

He was born in the month of Mary 1747 in the then township of Schenectady in said county when he entered the service of the United States in the army of the revolution he was living in the town of Water---has lived about thirteen years in Montgomery County in said State, and he now lives in the city of Schenectady aforesaid.

In the spring of the year 1775 he was enrolled in Captain Peter Schuyler's company of militia in the regiment Commanded by Colone Francis Nichols. He served under said Captain Schuyler about a year when the said Captain being promoted to the rank of ---of said company and given to Herny Ostom
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and served in said Company of Captain Ostrom unit the end of said war -the names of his other company  & field officers whom he recollects were Jacob Weaver, Lieutenant Peter Schuyler Jun Ensign.

His first expedition was with a detachment of militia to Johnstown in January 1776, on which occasion Sir John Johnson surrendered himself a prisoner of war.

He has marched to and remained on duty at J-----there several times for two or three weeks each time.

During the Northern Campaign of the year 1777 which eventuated in the Capture of Burgoyne & his army he was on duty more than more than two months at the different post occupied by the American army.

He was in the battle with the troops under General Van Rensselaer against the enemy under Sir John Johnson where Col Brown was killed he thinks in the year 1780.

He was often out with detachments  & militia to guard places in the vicinity of the town where lived which were exposed continually to attacks from the enemy
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The period for he served during said war exceeds in the whole twelve months----

THE FOLLOWING are the names of some of the regular officers whom he knew who were with the troops where he served, and such continental and militia regiments or companies with which he served, or as he can recollect. viz: those herein before notes &
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He never received any written discharge from the service-----------------------------------------

He has no ---------documentary evidence and knows no person, whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service  except those whose Depositions were here unto annexed.

The following are the names of persons to whom he is known in his present neighborhood and who can testify as to his character for veracity and their belief of his service as a soldier of the revolution to wit 
Simon J. Van Antwerp and Adam Vrooman

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever, to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.

Subscribed and sworn to the }
day and year first aforesid} 
John S. Vroom (signature) Clerk

Duric (X his mark) Groot

State of New York
County of Schenectady ss

On this eighteenth day of October one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the court of common pleas in and for said county now sitting, John Quackenboss, a resident of the city --of Schenectady who being duly sworn, doth depose and say, that he was in the time of the revolutionary was and is now well acquainted with Derick Groot - who has subscribed & sworn to the proceeding declaration; that this Deponent knows said Derick Groot served in said company of Henry Ostrom from the year 1776 until end of said war - has been in service with said Derick Groot during the northern campaign against Burgoyne in 1777 also at Schohar
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creek and at the upper for in Schoharie and at other posts during said war, and believes that said Derick was in actual service during said war for a term in the who exceeding two years -

John Quackenboss (his signature)

Subscribed & sworn this day & year first aforesaid

John S. Vrooman (signature) Clerk

County of Schenectady ss
And the aforesaid application Derick Groot being further duly sworn deposed and saith that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service but according to the best of his recollection he served not less that the period mentioned below in the grade of a private soldier is said company of Captain Henry Ostrom. In the month of January 1776 under the officers of said company & General Schuyler for a term exceeding fourteen day at Johnstown aforesaid.

Under said General Schyer & the officers of his company aforesaid, at least on two occasions, he marched to & performed garrison duty at Lake George for a term of at least one month each time to wit for two months under said officers he served in the campaigns of '77 against the Burgoyne for a term exceeding seventy days in the garrison and in the field at Fort Edward & the post occupied by the American troops in that campaign - At the upper middle and lower Scholarie forts, the particular periods not recollected on three different occasions for a period exceeding twenty-five days each time under the officers of his said Company - In the 1780 under General van Rensselar on the occasion of his encounter with the British forces under Command of Sir John Johnson for a term no lest
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than twenty days. At Fort Hunter, under the officers of his said company for a term not less than ten days. This Deponent engaged in several expeditions to several other frontier posts the particular occasions of which & the length of time he served in each he cannot possibly recollect he has also been out during said war on many occasions as a scout or Indian spy but cannot recollect the different terms - This Deponent however is fully assured that the actions & active military service performed by him as a private soldier during said war, greatly exceeds twelve months, & for this period of service he claims a pension. And this Disponent further deposeth, that during said period of service he did not engage in any civil pursuit whatever -

Derick (X his mark) Groot

Subscribed & sworn
this 19th day of August
1833 before me

J.D. Harman (signature) Justice of the Peace

Courts of Schenectady ss
The afford said John Quackenboss being further duly sworn saith that he has personal knowledge of the services of said Derick Groot in the northern campaign against Burgoyne for a term exceeding two months at Fort Hunter & Schoharie creek at least one week at the Upper Schoharie Fort for a term exceeding three weeks. This Deponent cannot speak positively as to the precise length of time said Derick
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Groot served in other expeditions , nor can he particularly then, yet is certain that he engaged in many of the being ever on the alert and a true w-- and zealous soldier

John Quackenboss (signature)

Subscribes & sworn this
19th day of August 1833
before me & I do hereby 
certify that said John Quackenboss
bears the reputation & I hereby 
certify him to be a credible
person & that he statements is
untitled to credit.

J.D. Harman Justice of the peace

I John S. Vrooman Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that Joshua D. Harman Esq before whom the foregoing deposition of Derick Groot & John Quackenboss purport to have been taken was at the date there of  a Justice of the Peace in aforesaid County; that I am well acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe the signature to the same purporting to be his, is genuine

Witness my hand and the seal of said county this 2d day of September Anno Domini
1833 -

John S. Vrooman (signature) Clerk
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This is to certify that we have been acquainted with Derick Groot of the city of Schenectady (now resident ) for many years & that he is a man of credibility & good words.

Alendander G. Fonda (signature)
James V.S. Ryley (signature)

Schenectady October 8th 1832 
Simond Groot (signature)
Joseph E. Yates.


THIS CERTIFIES that as appears from the Register of Baptism belonging to the PROTESTANT REFORMED DUTCH CHURCH in the City of Schenectady Dirk, Son of Nicolaas Groot and Marretje Tymons
his wife, was baptized on the 24th day of May in the year 1747.

Jacob Van Vechten (signature)
V.D.M

CERTIFIED

Schenectady Sept 23 1832
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WE Simon J. V. Antwerp residing in the town of Niskayuna in the county of Schenectady in said county do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Derick Groot who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be Eighty five years of age; that he is reputed and believed, the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.

Simon J. V Antwerp (signature)
Adam Vrooman (signature)

Subscribed and sworn the}
day and year aforesaid 
John S. Vrooman (signature) Clerk

AND THE SAID COURT do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Alexander Fonda, Simon A. Groot, James V.S. Ryley & Joseph C. Yates whose names appear to the annexed certificate are men of the first respectability & credibility & that their signatures thereto are genuine - and further that Simon J. Van Antwerp of Schenectady & are both credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I John S. Vrooman Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the county of
Schenectady do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of application of Derick Groot.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this Eighteenth day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two.

John S. Vrooman (his signature) Clerk
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No 19852

Derick Groot
Schenectady C
N. York


Ad-------
Private b------------

Giles F. Yates Agt
Schenectady N. York
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WAR DEPARTMENT
Pension Officer
183

Sir:

The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832 has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done These pints to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace (thus: })/ You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them. and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim

STATEMENT sharing the Service of Derick Groot Schenectady Co N. York.
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Period of when the service  was rendered
Enrolled 1775
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832

The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line as to every branch of the Staff of the Army and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops", "Militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols or were engaged in guarding particular places at night and were not recognized as being in actual military service.

Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers
3. Persons employed in the Naval Service
4. Indian Spies

As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.

DECLARATION

In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832

State, Territory, or District of }ss
county of

On this day of personally appeared (a) before A.B. a resident (b) years who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of  Congress, passed June 7th 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service' (and if he served under more than one term enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the  town  or county and State in which he resides when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons  who belonged to the militia volunteers, navy, &c.]
hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.

[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.

I _________________________________ of the Court of do  hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for pension.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (I) this day of  &c.

If on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot  be found they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.

Every applicant who claims pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militai except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:

(k) We. A.B., a Clergyman, residing in the  _____________and C.D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with ------------------------, who has  subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal
means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted
; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected.
All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there
subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account
of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State
troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war
, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute?
And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such
Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it givand
what has become of it?
Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what
has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify
as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are
requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court,
without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be
the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from
their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed
and behaved in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion.
If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character
and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct
proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the
enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before
required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the
proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to
perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper
Clerk of Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a
of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is
his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before
the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the
declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure
, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period
of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the
opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
The intrant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow
the rain store for his guidance.
to make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not
ing anthe
claimant must invariably be mentioned.
ent must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
ment officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the
it. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so
to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the
of money now long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason
ment loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his
at the periods mentioned term and in the following grade-yearmonths
, and -
4 For months and - days, I served as a ; and for such service I claim a pension."
all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law
direct the man in the said according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months,
that such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years
specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is
that in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement;
the man that waters where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent unthat
neither in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil
pursuit.
The was the relinquishment indispensable.
man of the Court is always required.
This certificate in every case.
fit his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no pubcertificate
of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the
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Mode of authenticating papers.
come when the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains
the other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must
pass under the fire of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[?] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, the time and manner of his leaving the same as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses names, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[?] The [illegible] [illegible] [?] to [?]  are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops, The proof required by rule in note a continental troops only.
[k]The traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m]The answer to an interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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23661.
INVALID.
Revolution
File No. 2366
Derick Groot
Pri Rev War
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Act: June 7th 32
Index: --Vol. 2, Page 161
[Arrangement of 1870.}