Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 32429, for Thomas Patten, North Carolina
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SERVICE N.C.
Patten, Thomas
or Patton

NUMBER
S.32429

CONTENTS
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[torn corner of page] Illinois. 19.925.
Thomas Patten.
of Crawford Co. in the State of Illinois 
who was a private in the Co commanded
by Captain Hardy, of the Rgt commanded
by Colo. Campbell in the N.Carolina
line for one year,


Inscribed on the Roll of Illinois
at the rate of 40 Dollars 00 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 25 day of Sep
1833 and sent to Edwd. H. Piper. Palestine C.Co. Ill

Arrears to the 4th of Sep 1833. 900.
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Mar [illegible] 20. 
$120.

{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}

Recorded by wm. R. Palmer Clerk
Book [illegible]. Vol. 8 Page 60.
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No 17975 19.925
Thomas Patten Crawford
County Illinois

[crossed out: Return to]
adm 1. year $40.



Edwd. H Piper [^Palestine] Crawford County Illinois
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BRIEF in the case of Thomas Patten
County of Crawford in the State of Illinois
(Act 7th June, 1832.)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?
Judge

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
yes

3. How old is he? 
97 years

4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

[column headings: Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.]

1. Vol - In 1779 -. 6 Months. As a private. Gen. morgan, Col Washington Cap Jno Hardy, Col. Jos mcDowell.
2. Vol - 1780 -. 6 Months. As a private. Cap Jno Hardy, Col Campbell & Furguson Cap Wm Neal.
The applicant states that he was 3 or 4 years in the U.States service but dont where or how or when satisfactorily

5. In what battles was he engaged?
Ramsays mill, Kings mountain, Cowpens Guilford,

6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? 
Rowan County N Carolina

7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?
Traditionary

8. Are the papers defective as to the form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
Court

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.

Richd Key Watts Examining Clerk.
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(1)
Declaration in order to Obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832
State of Illinois
Crawford County } Set

On this 13th day of October 1832 personally appeared before the subscriber, one of the County commissioners Court (said Court being) a court of Record of the County and State aforesaid Thomas Patten, a Resident of Palestine Township in said County, aged ninety seven years the 25th day of April last (as he believes who being) first duly sworn according to law, doth on his Oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed. June 7. 1832. That he entered the Service of the united states, under the following named Officers and served as herein stated, He says he was three or four years in the service of the united states in the Revolutionary War; which a few years ago, he could have retaled correctly; But at this time he can recollect only two six months tower, Towit in the latter part of the year 1779. he volunteered and entered the service of the United States in Capt John Hardys, Company (Thomas Kennedy Lieutenat for the Term of six months he was mustered into service at Saulsbury, Roan county North Carolina, the day & month he cannot recollect, he marched to Ramsays mills, where he was in a battle with the Tories, and some British, Colo. Joseph McDowell commanded the americans, none of the Regular Troops were with them. his company was for the most part in pursuit of Tories; at the expiration of six
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months he was marched to Saulsbury and discharged by word of mouth, in a few days he again volunteered in Capt John Hardys company, in the year 1780. he can not tell the day or month, he marched several Tours after Tories & was in the battle of Kings mountain in Colo Campbells division, Colo Furguson commanded the British & Tories and was kiled, he was also in the Battle of the Cowpens, having been changed from Capt Hardys Company to Capt Williams Neals Compy. Col. McDowell was in the Battle of the Cowpens of Genl morgan & other now forgot., after serving six months he was discharged by word of mouth; He resided in Roan county N.Carolina when he entered the service of the united states He Recallects that Col Washington was several Times with the troops. & other Regular officers though can not tell their names, He says he well remembers that in one of his Tours he marched after Cornwallis from Saulsbury down to Gilford Court House, & was in the Battle of Gilford Court House, from old age and severe afflictions from a Broken leg. recently; his memory is almost gone
He has no documentary evidence, and that he knows of no person living. whose Testimony he can procure, who can Testify to his services. He hereby relinquishes every claim Whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the [crossed out text: [illegible] of any state]
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(3)
agency of any state
sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
his mark
[hand written x]
Thomas Patton

Interrogatories or answers to 

1st He was born in malborough Pennsylvania on the 25th (he thinks) of April 1735.

2nd He has no Record of his age now. it was in his Bible Burnt up long since in his House

3rd He lived in Roan county North Carolina, when called into service, where he lived a long time after the Revolutionary war, Then moved to Indiana then to Crawford County Illinois where he now lives 

4th He volunteered in the Service

5. He Recallects no Regular officers with whom he served Save Colo Washington. who was same time with him

6d He never Received a written discharged

7th Thomas Kennedy a Clergyman & Ithra Brashear are persons who know him & can Testify as to his character for varecity & belief of his being a soldier of the Revolution

Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
his mark 
[hand written x]
Thomas Patton

We Thomas Kennedy a clergyman residing in the County of Crawford & state of Illinois, and Ithra Brashear residing in the same, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Thomas Patten, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be
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ninety seven years old of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in the Opinion
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Thomas Kennedy,
Minister of the gospel
at Lormotte

his mark
[hand written x]
Ithrey Brashears

And I James H wilson one of the Judges of the County Commissioners Court of the County of Crawford and state of Illinois do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after puting the Interrogatories prescribed by the war Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states, and I do further certify that the said applicant from old age and bodily infirmity, Can not attend the Court and I do further certify that it appears to me that Thomas Kenney who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in Palestine Township county & state aforesaid, and that Ithra Brashears, who has also signed the same, is a resident in the Township county & state afod. and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit,
James H Wilson

I Edward H. Piper clerk of the county Commissioner court in & for the County of Crawford and state of Illinois, do hereby Cirtify that the foregoing Contains the original proceedings of the said James H. Wilson, (who is one of the Judges of the county Commissioners court aforesaid, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature) in the matter of the application of Thomas Patten for a Pension
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal said towit. at my office in Palestine this 13th day of October 1832
Edward H. Piper clk
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February 12, 1935
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Mr. S. A. Williams
440 North Frances Street
Madison, Wisconsin

Nathaniel Ames, S. 11979
Thomas Patten, S. 32429
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Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you state the information furnished you in regard to Nathaniel Ames was not definite as to whether or not he were the last surviving Revolutionary War soldier in the United States. You state that one soldier of that war died in Crawford County, Illinois, at the age of one hundred two years, and that you do not know date of his death.

As stated in letter to you January 25, 1935, this office does not have record of all soldiers of the Revolutionary War, but only the applications for pension, or those whose widows or children were applicants. It is not possible, therefore, to state who was the last survivor of that war.

Upon a search of the Revolutionary War pension records, it has been found that one Thomas Patten was a Revolutionary War pensioner in Crawford County, Illinois. He was born April 25, 1735, and applied for pension October 13, 1832. He may be the one to whom you refer. This office does not have record of the date of his death. In order to obtain date of last payment of pension and possibly the date of death of Thomas Patten, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, this city, and cite the following data:- Thomas Patten, Certificate No. 19925, issued September 25, 1833, rate $40 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act June 7, 1832, Illinois Agency.

The dates of death of two Revolutionary War pensioners have been located, which were subsequent to the date of death of Nathaniel Ames, given by you as August 27, 1863. One was of Ohio [^John Gray - Va - S.1464] and died in 1868, the other of [^Daniel Fredrick Bakeman] New York and died in 1869. It is believed there are others who died after 1863, but this office has no list which bears date of death of all the Revolutionary War pensioners.
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The Comptroller General has a record of last payments of those pensioners but in order to locate any particular one it is believed he must have the name of the soldier, the name of the state in which he lived and other definite data. 

Very truly yours


A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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macon, Mo., aug. 30, 10
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:-
Have you any record of the Revolutionary service of Thomas Patton? He lived, as late as 1765; in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, but I thnk he enlisted from Burke County, North Carolina.
While tracing my ancestry for membership in the D.a.R., I learned that [^the above named] Thomas Patton, one of my ancestors, was in the Revolution, but in what capacity, I do not know, Please send me his record if it on your files.
very Truly yours,
Mrs. W. P. Walker.
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FRANCIS E. WARREN. WYC. CHAIRMAN.
REED SMOOT.UTAH. WESLEY L JONES, WASH. CHARLES CURTIS. KANS. FREDERICK HALE, ME. SELDEN P. SPENCER, MO. LAWRENCE C. PHIPPS, COLO. WILLIAM B. MCKINLEY, ILL. IRVINE L. LENROOT, WIS. HENRY W. KEYES. N.H. LEE S. OVERMAN, N.C. ROBERT L. OWEN, OKLA. WILLIAM J. HARRIS, GA. CARTER GLASS, VA. ANDRIEUS A. JONES, N. MEX.
KENNEDY F. REA, CLERK.


United States Senate,
COMMITTE ON APPROPRIATIONS.

November 1, 1923.

[Stamp: OFFICE OF THE COMMISSIONER NOV 2 1923 U.S. BUREAU OF PENSIONS]

Hon. Washington Gardner,
Pension Bureau,
Washington, D.C.

My dear Mr. Gardner:
The enclosed letter from Mrs. G. M. Boyd of Adairsville, Georgia, requesting data on Mr or Mrs. Thomas Patton and William Boyd, is self-explanatory, and I would thank you to give me whatever information is possible.
Sincerely yours,
 Wm J Harris
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[written on top corner: Rev service]

Hotel Trenton
427 South Olive St, Los Angeles, California.
Sept. II, 1916
To the Commissioner of Pensions,
My dear Sir:-
I desire the service of one Thomas Patton, a soldier of the Revolution, from I think, North Carolina. He was pansioned [pensioned] while living in Crawford county ,Illinois.
I thank you for the information.
Truly yours,
John A. Patten,
[signature]
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aug 27/23
Charleston, Ill.

Bureau of Pensions
Washington D.C.
Dear Sir-
I am trying to join the D.a.R. on the Patton line. and would like to have all data which you can give about the families, dates etc of Thomas Pattron form north Carolina, who was
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born in marlboro Penn. apr. 25 - 1735. He enlisted in the north carolina troops in 1779. He died in Crawford Co Palestine township - Ill. He was pensioned
I shall greatly appreciate any help which you can give me 
Very truly yours
Jennie mae Patton
203 Harrison St.
Charleston, Ill.
[Stamp: REVOLUTIONARY WAR AUG 30 1923 SECTION]
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[left page]
32429
Revy INVALID.
File No. 32,3426
Thomas Patten
Pri Rev War

Act: June 7' 32' 
Index:-Vol. 8, Page 315,
[Arrangement of 1870.]

[right page]
1910. sept. 9 Hist to mrs. W. P. Walker a.P.
1916 Sept. 26 Hist to John a. Patten
1923 Sept. 29 Hist to Jennie m. Patton
1923 nov. 3 Hist to Hon. Wm. J. Harris for mrs. H.M. Boyd MMH
1925 Feb 11 coug Wm W arnold informed date of death not on record see letter in George Battle R.572 revy
1935 Feb.12 S.a. Williams also [illegible] to obtain date of last pen. See his letter in nathaniel ames S.11979.
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Rev. and 1812 Wars Section

November 3, 1923

Honorable William J. Harris
United States Senate

My dear Senator:
In response to your letter of the 1st inst., and the enclosed letter of Mrs. G. M. Boyd of Adairsville, Georgia, I have the honor to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 32439 it appears that Thomas Patten or Patton was born in Marlborough, Pennsylvania April 25, 1735.
While a resident of Rowan County, North Carolina he enlisted late in 1779 and served as a private six months in Captain John Hardy's Company, Colonel Joseph McDowell's North Carolina Regiment and was in the battle of Ramsour's Mill.
In 1780 he enlisted and served six months in Captain John Hardy's Company, Colonel Campbell's Regiment and was in the battle of King's Mountain;  he was transferred to Captain William Neal's Company and was in the battles of Cowpens and Guilford.
He was allowed pension on his application executed
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October 13, 1832 while a resident of Palestine, Township, Crawford County, Illinois. There is no family data on file.

Sincerely,

Commissioner.
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Rev. War Section.

September 29, 1923.

Jennie M. Patton,
203 Harrison St.,
Charleston, Ill.

Madam;
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 32429, it appears that Thomas Patten or Patton was born in Marlboro, Pennsylvania, April 25, 1735 and while residing in Rowan County, North Carolina, enlisted late in 1779 and served six months as a private in Captain John Hardy's company, Colonel Joseph McDowell's North Carolina regiment and was in the battle of Ramsour's Mill. In 1780, he enlisted and served six months in Captain John Hardy's company, Colonel Campbell's regiment and was in the battle of King's Mountain, he was transferred to Captain William Neal's company and was in the battles of Cowpens and Guilford.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 13, 1832, while a resident of Palestine Township, Crawford County, Illinois. There is no data on file as to his family.

Respectfully,

Commissioner.
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I Edward H. Piper clerk of the county commissioners court in and for the county of Crawford and state of Illinois, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said James H. Wilson (who is one of the Judges of the county commisioners court aforesaid, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature) in the mater of [crossed out: Thomas Patton] the application of Thomas Patten for Pension and his annexed papers hereto annexd [sic] on pages five and six. In Testimony whereof I have set my hand and affixed the seal of said court at my office in Palestine this 13th day of May AD 1833
Edward H. Piper clk
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Thomas Patten which require further proof or explanation.

1. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? 
yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?
yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
yes

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?
yes

V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?
no #

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7k 1832?
yes

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?
the Judge has

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
yes

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
yes

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
[blank]

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? Yes

XIV. +If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath,
certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
[blank]

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
[blank]

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? 
Yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
[blank]


EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection
he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For [blank] year [blank] months, and [blank] days, I served as a [blank] For [blank] months and [blank] days, I served as a [blank] and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or for months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the
officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the
applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed
in any civil pursuit.

QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths
must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly
attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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State of Illinois
Crawford County } Set
Personally appeared before me a Justice of the Peace in and for said county, Thomas Patten who being duly Sworn, deposeth and Saith, that by reason of old age, and the Consequent loss of memory, he canm [sic] Swear positively as the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following grades. For the term of one year I served as a private, and for such service I claim a pension. 
Thomas Patton
[hand written cross]
his mark

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 11d day of May AD. 1833
Basil Brashar JP

State of Illinois
Crawford County} Set
I Edward H. Piper being solemnly sworn saith that ten or twelve years ago I had conversation with Thomas Patton on the subject of his claim on the united states as a pensioner, under the act of 1818. on that subject he then informed me that his services had all been in the militia, & as the Law was for the Regular soldiers alone it did no embrace his case, he however went on the relate to me same of his services and could recollect prety well the
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services he has rendered, I do further say that I have been well acquainted with the said Thomas Patton since that Time. and am well awere [aware] that his memory has much failed him within the last six or Eight years, he being a very old man, & much afflicted for some time past and further sayeth not
Edward H. Piper

Sworn to and subscribed before me this 13th May 1833 Basil Brashear JP

State of Illinois
Crawford County} set
I Edward H. Piper clerk of the County commissioner Court. in & ford [sic] said county do hereby certify that Basil Brashear Esq before whom the within affidavits were taken & subscribed, was at the time of subscribing the same, & yet is an acting Justice of the peace in and for said County duly commissioned and Qualified as such, and that full faith and credit is due and should be given to all his official acts
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said court at Palestine this 13th day of May AD 1833
Edward H. Piper clerk