Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 212, Joseph Vail, New York
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New York  Vail, Joseph   w 212
or Vale
Juliana
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5292
New Jersey
Juliana Vail or Vale
widow of Joseph Vail
who served in the Revolutionary war, (Capt. Beavers) as a Private for 8 months
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 26 Dollars 66
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1848.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7th day of Jany 1851 and sent to 
A. Ray Present
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 2, 1848, Page 323 Vol. 4

Reported
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No 13576
Juliana Vail or Vale
wid of Joseph No N.J.
Act 7 July 1838
married 1787
admitted 
P. 8m $26.66
Co to March 1836 to 4 March 1844
March 1843 to 48' + 4 March 1848
A. Ray Pvt 
paid $ 80
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State of New Jersey
Sussex County }
On this 4th day of February 1848 personally appeared before the undersigned a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County and State aforesaid Juliana Vail a resident of Branchville in the County of Sussex and State of New Jersey age Eighty years and upwards who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed July 4th 1838 and the subsequent acts thereto granting half pay and pensions to certain widows of soldiers of the Revolution  That she is the widow of Joseph Vail or Veal who belonged to Capt Braemer's company of militia in Col Allisons Regiment in Orange County and State of New York in the Revolution and as she has been informed and believes served as follows: In the spring of 1781 being then enrolled in Capt Braemer's company of militia he volunteered from the said company into the New York State troops and served the full term of eight months being the three for which he volunteered under Captain Abraham Westfall and in the Regiment commanded by Col Pauling that he went from Goshen sometime about the first of May of said year and served on the western frontier of Orange and Ulster Counties guarding against the Indians until about the first of January 1782 when he returned home to his mothers dwelling his father having been killed by the Indians at the Battle of Minisink July 22d 1779. That he afterward served on alarms in the militia until the end of the war'
She further declares that she was married to the said Joseph Vail at her fathers house in the
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village of Goshen in the County of Orange and State of New York on the 17th day of April 1787 by the Rev Nathan Kerr Pastor of the Presbyterian church in Goshen 
That his {illegible, illegible} was Juliana Smith that her husband  Joseph Vail died in the village of Goshen Orange County New York on the eight day of October one thousand eight hundred and twenty two that she has not since his death again married but still remains his widow. That she was not married to him previous to his last term of service but was married to him pevious to the first day of January one thousand seven hundred and ninety fourty at the time before stated. She further declares that she has no documentary evidence of her husbands service in his possession.  Sworn to and subscribed by making her mark the day and year last before mentioned before me  Juliana (her X mark) Vail
Moses Dunning Judge

Sussex County ss I certify that I am satisfied that Juliana Vail who made and subscribed the foregoing declaration is a woman of truth and veracity and that her statement therein made are entitled to full credit and belief
And from personal examination I am satisfied that from the infirmatus of old age she should be excused from attending the sitting of the court of record in and for said county
Moses Dunning Judge
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State of New Jersey
Sussex County } ss
On this 4th day of February 1848 personally appeared before the undersigned a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County and State aforesaid Sally Dekay a resident of Branchville in the County of Sussex and State of New Jersey aged Fifty Six years a woman of respectability and whose truth and veracity is not to be doubted who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath depose and say that she is the daughter of Joseph and Juliana Vail who resided in the county of Orange and State of New York when her father the said Joseph Vail died
That he died on the Eight day of October Eighteen hundred and twenty two in the village of Goshen in the county and State aforesaid and that her mother Juliana Vail has since resided with this deponent that the said Juliana Vail has not married since the death of her husband the said Joseph Vail but still remains his widow
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year above mentioned before me 
Sally Dekay
Moses Dunning Judge
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STATE OF NEW JERSEY.
I, CHARLES G. McCHESNEY, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, do hereby certify, that Moses Dunning Esquire, before whom the within affidavit and declaration were made and taken
was, at the time of the doing thereof, a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the county of Sussex in said state, duly commissioned and sworn; that full faith and credit are to be fiven to his official attestations, and that the signatures thereto are in the proper handwriting of the said Moses Dunning
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my seal of office, at Trenton, in said state this twenty first day of February A.D. one thousand eight hundred and forty eight
Charles G. McChesney
Sec'y of State
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I do hereby certify that I am the clerk of the session of the first Presbyterian church in Goshen New York, and that I am in possession of the records of said church, containing the register of marriages kept by the Rev'd Nathan Ker former Pastor of said church, and that I find the marriage of Joseph Vail and Juliana Smith recorded on the seventeenth day of April one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven. 
In words and figures as follows, married Jospeh Vail + Juliana Smith Apl. 17. 1787.
H M Hopkins clerk of session
Town of Goshen 
Orange County Ss}  H M Hopkins the person whose name is signed to the above certificate + will whom I am personally acquainted being duly sworn deposes + says that the matters of fact set forth in the above certificate are true
Taken + sworn before me this 24th day of August 1848
Andr. J Wilkin Justice
of the peace in + for orange county
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State of New York
County of Orange} Ss
On this twenty second day of August Eighteen hundred and forty eight personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid John Knapp a resident of Goshen in the county and State aforesaid aged eighty three years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath depose and say that he was born in the precinct now town of Goshen in the county and state aforesaid and that he still lives on the same premises where he was born. That he has a distinct recollection of many events of the Revolutionary war. That he was well acquainted with Joseph Veal who was his neighbour knew him when a young man. That the said Joseph Veal belonged to the Drowned Lands company of Militia in Col. Allison's Regiment. That in the spring of 1782 Joseph Veal entered the service in the New York State troops under Capt Westfall and Colonel Weisenfelt and served during that campaign on the Western frontier of Orange and Ulster Counties
This deponent recollects that shortly after the said Joseph Veal returned from the frontier he worked with him at a farmers by the name of Arnaut and he recollects well that the said Joseph Veal often spoke of his services under Col Weisenfelt and one particular circumstance which he used to tell he recollects distinctly It was that while in the service under Col Weisenfelt the soldiers did not draw amongst the soldiers there was kept a (illegible) tankard measuring about a quart some of the soldiers
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offered to the blacks the tankard full of spirits if any one would drink it off, one only accepted the offer drank the tankard of spirits and died before night. 
This deponent further saith that he was well acquainted with the said Joseph Veal he was the son of Gilbert Veal of Goshen who with this deponents father was killed by the Indians at the Battle of Minisink on the 22nd of July 1779
This deponent is perfectly satisfied that Joseph Veal was a soldier on the frontiers as before mentioned and that he served at least wight months in 1782  That the said Joseph Veal  married for his wife Julianna Smith of Goshen that he was well acquainted with Juliana Smith previous to his marriage and knew her living for several years with the said Joseph Veal as his wife after marriage. That he never knew any other Joseph Veal is now dead and has been dead for several  years The said Veal was always reputed to have been a soldier and he never heard it contradicted
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year before written before me
John Thomas
Andr. J Wilkin
Justice of the peace
in + for Orange County}
I certify that I am well acquainted with John Knapp of Goshen who made the foregoing affidavit and know him to be a man of truth and veracity and his statements are entitled to implicit confrance and belief.
Andr. J. Wilkin
Justice of the peace in + for Orange County
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STATE OF NEW YORK, 
ORANGE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, }SS
I, ALBERT S. BENTON, Clerk of the County Court in and for said County of Orange, do hereby certify, That Andrew J Wilkin before whom the foregoing affidavit + certificate who subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said county: and further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said affidavit + certificate is genuine.
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my Hand and affixed the Seal of the said County, this 28th day of August 1848
A. S. Benton clerk.
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212
Revy WIDOW, & c.
File No. 212
Juliana Vail or Vale
Widow 
Joseph Vail or 
Pri. Rev. War
Act: Feb. 2. 1848
Index:- Vol. M, Page 294
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8727
New Jersey
Juliana Vail or Vale
widow of Joseph 
who was a Private 
in the Revolution 
for 8 months
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 26 Dollars 66
Cents per annum, to commence 
on the 4th day of March, 1843.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7th day of Jany 1850
and sent to 
A. Ray
Present
[Acts of March 3, 1843, & June 17, 1844.]
Recorded in Book A
Vol. 2 Page 101
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10809
New Jersey
Juliana Vale or Vail 
widow of Joseph
who was a pensioner under the Act of and who died on the 8 October 1822
of Orange Co in the State of New York who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Westfall of the Regt commanded by Col. Paulding in the N.Y. line for 8 months
Inscribed on the Roll of Trenton at the rate of 26 Dollars 66 cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7th day of January 1850 and sent to A. Ray present
Total amount, $
[Act July 7, 1838.]
Recorded by J B Chase clerk,
Book D Vol. 1 Page 211
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N 13576
Juliana Vail or Vale
NY
See letter to JW Martin 17 July
See letter to no  18 Nov
Hon Henry Ness, Jul 9
49

act 7 July 1838
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Mount (?) New York
February 22 1868
Dr Sir
 I have the honor to transmit to you the declaration of Juliana Vail widow of Joseph Vail or Veal with the accompanying vouchers for a pension I was acquainted with Joseph Vail when living and also with his wife Juliana
You will please give this case your earliest attention that will be convenient and report to me
Your Obt St
John W Martin

Hon J.L. Edwards 
Commsr of Pension
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Washington
Oct 22nd/ 49
James L Edwards Esq.
Com of Pensions
Sir, your letter of the 9 Febr last in the case of Juliana Vail is non responsive.
She made claim to a pension under act 1838, on account of her late husband's Joseph Vail revolution services.
The marriage and service is admitted. And I now enclose proof of identity as this claim has been pending so long, have to beg your early attention to issuing of the certificate
I remain your 
most respectful Alex Ray
Act of July 1838 New York
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Ho. Reps.
Jany 8, 1849
Sir, May I request the favor of you to examine and report to me, in the case of Mrs. Julian Vail, of New York under act 1838.
Additional evidence was filed by Mr Ray on the 30th of Aug. last
I remain yours R
Henry Nes
J L. Edwards Esq
Com. Pensions
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Washington Aug 30. 48
Sir, 
I received from John W. Martin Esq of Mount Hope N. York, this morning; your letter to him of the 17th July in the case of Juliana Vail widow of Joseph, an applicant for the act 7 July 1838.
Also the evidence of marriage which took place April 17, 1789: the proof of her husband service from the comptroller's office albany and the evidence of identity, all of which seems to be furnished in compliance with your letter of the 17 April
I remain sir
your most obt serv
Alex Ray
J.L. Edwards Esq
Com of Pension
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1782 Dec 26 Joseph Veal private cert # 4038 L 20/19/06

Twenty, nineteen + six
20
  2
40
10
  238
      6
5244
2622

August 11th 1848
Capt. Abrm Westfall in Lt Col. Frederich Wessenfell

John Hancock ( examining clerk)
Millard Fillmore
(Comptroller)
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State of New York
Orange County}
On the eighteenth day of October one thousand eight hundred and forty nine personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the peace in and for the county aforesaid Erastis Mapes a resident of Wallkill in the county of Orange and State of New York, aged eighty three years and upwards personally known to me a man of sound mind and whose statements made are entitled to full credit and belief, being first duly sworn according to law doth depose and say that in the war of the Revolution he was a resident of Goshen in the county and state aforesaid. That he lived in the family of one Enos Smith and with him served an apprenticeship to the blacksmith business. That at that time he knew Joseph Veal or Vail (now deceased) living in the same place and he knew that the same Joseph Veal served as a soldier in the New York state troops under Capt Abraham Westfall and Col. Weysenfelt on the frontier against the Indians 
He recollects that an alarm was made in the month of June of that year and that he with others went out on that alarm and was gone three days.  that during that time he saw the said Joseph Veal doing duty as a soldier at the block house at Capt Westfalls. 
He further says that he was well acquainted with Julianna Smith of Goshen, she was the daughter of a brother to the man with whom this deponent served his apprenticeship, that he was present when Joseph Veal and the said Julianna Veal who is now an applicant for a pension is the widow of Joseph Veal who served as a soldier in Capt Westfalls company of State troops in 1782. He was well acquainted with them both untill the death of said Veal, and he is satisfied that she still remains his widow.
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sworn and subscribed by making his mark he being crippled in his hand with the eyresepples( as spelled) the day and year before mentioned before me. 
Eratus (his X mark) Mapes
William Baker Justice
of the Peace

Joseph W. Gatt
that William Baker
Eighteenth   October   1849
J. W. Gatt
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Stat of New York
County of Orange} ss  On this twenty fourth day of August Eighteen hundred and forty eight 
personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the said county 
Hannah Roe a resident of Otis fille in the County and State aforesaid aged Seventy nine years and upwards who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath depose and say that she was the daughter of Gilbert Veal of Goshen in the county of Orange  and State of New York that her father Gilbert Veal was killed by the Indians at the Battle of Minisink on the 22nd of July 1779 That she had two brothers whose names was Samuel and Joseph both older than herself. She further depseth and saith that in the Spring of the year 1782 her brother Joseph Vail or Veal as it was then called volunteers from Captain Gales (formerly Bradner's company) Col Allisons regiment of Orange County militia into a company of State troops commanded by Captain Abraham Westfall in Col Weisenfelt's Regiment and left Goshen about the first of May of the said year and went to Deerpark on the western frontier of Orange and Ulster counties where he served during the campaign of that year guarding the frontiers at different points against the Indians. She further deposeth and saith on her oath that she is not mistaken about her brother Joseph Vail or Veal belonging to Capt Westfall's company in 1782 when he left home to join with those of the company who rendevoused( sic) at the court house in Goshen to cross the mountain she this deponent went with her mother and the rest of the family to the village with the said Joseph Veal
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who had just returned home and had [illegible]
his gun to surpris the family she is satisfied that this service was in 1782 because he went no more out to the camp and peace soon after followed 
She further saith that the said Joseph Veal in the year 1787 was married to Julianna Smith daughter of William Smith of Goshen by the Rev Nathan Kerr pastor of the Presbyterian church in Goshen That the said Joseph Vail has been dead a long time and the said Julianna is sill living his widow.  She further saith that she never knew any other Joseph Veal but her brother Sworn to and subscribed as above before me 
William Baker Justice of the peace  Hannah (her X mark) Roe
I certify that I am acquainted with Hannah Roe who made and subscribed the foregoing affidavit and have been acquainted with her for thirty years and I know her to be a woman of piety and of truth and her veracity is above suspicion and all her statements above made are entitled to full credit and belief
William Baker Justice of the peace
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STATE OF NEW YORK 
ORANGE COUNTY CLERKS OFFICE} SS. 
I, ALBERT S. BENTON, clerk of the county court in and for said county of Orange, do hereby certify, that  William Baker before whom the foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the peace in and for said county; and further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said affidavit is genuine.
In witness whereof, I have set my Hand and affixed the seal of the said county, this 28th day of August 1848
A. S. Benton clerk.
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Mt Hope New York
July 7 1848
Sir
A son of Cornelius Sammons or as it is sometimes written Sanmons called on me a short time since wishing me to enquire of the Commissioner of Pensions the cause why the said Cornelius Sammons never drew a pension He made application some fifteen years since but never received a certificate his application was made from Otsego County and State of New York under the act of 1832
Will you do me the very great favor when it is convenient to inform me of the cause of his filure to obtain a pension
While writing I would again enquire If the declaration of Julianna Veal widow of Joseph Veal made in Sussex County New Jersey has ever been received at the pension office  It wa forwarded with vouchers in February last since which time I have received no information of the case it was made under the act of 1838 and the subsequent acts Be so very kind as to inform me whether the papers have been filed in your office
With Respect I remain your obedient servant
John W Martin

Hon J L Edwards
Comms of Pensions
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State of New York
Orange County}ss
On this fifth day of February one thousand eight hundred and forty eight personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the county aforesaid Thomas Knight a resident of said county and State aged Eighty Eight years and upwards a man of truth and veracity who being first duly sworn according to law doth depose and say that in the Revolutionary War he was a sergeant in a company of Militia commanded by Capt Thomson in the beginning of the war and afterwards by Capt Swezy in the Regiment commanded by Col Allison and was known as the Goshen Regiment of Orange County militia
That he was well acquainted with Joseph Vail who towards the close of the war belonged to Capt Braemers company of militia in Allisons Regiment  That the said Joseph Vail was son of Gilbert Vail who lived about one mile west of the village of Goshen and was killed in the Battle of Minisink on the 22nd of July 1779 at that time the said Joseph Vail was about Sixteen years of age he knew him well and was acquainted with him until his death That in the Spring of 1781 a requisition was made for troops to serve for eight months on the western frontiers against the Indians and he knows that Joseph Vail of Braemers company in Allisons Regiment volunteered for eight months to serve in Capt Abraham Westfalls company in Colonel Pawlings Regiment and that he left Goshen for that purpose in April or the early part of May 1781 but he cannot say how long he served He was the same person
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who married Juliana Smith she is now living he never knew any other man by the name of Joseph Vail He further deposeth and saith that he was well acquainted with Juliana Smith where a girl that her father William Smith lived in teh village of Goshen and he knew her well from the time of her marriage to Joseph Vail until his death and he knew the said Juliana living with the said Joseph Vail as his wife during that time and he has never heard of her marrying since he died   And further he saith no
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year before written before me by making his mark 
Edward Shute Justice   Thomas (his X mark) Knight
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STATE OF NEW YORK, 
ORANGE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, }SS
I, ALBERT S. BENTON, Clerk of the County Court in and for said County of Orange, do hereby certify, That Edward Shute before whom the foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn, was at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said county; and further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said affidavit is genuine. 
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my Hand and affixed the Seal of the said County, this seventh day of February 1848
A. S. Benton clerk