Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 3843, John B Turner, New Jersey
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(8-1776)
SERVICE                                                  NUMBER
New Jersey       Turner, John B.                S. 3843

                                                                   Carded
CONTENTS
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[left page]
1888 July 19-S.F Cary - history - Prior 
Oct. 26-1832 AB.

Ohio 22.383.
John B Turner dec [paper torn cutting off date]
of Hamilton in the State of Ohio who was a private in the Com commander [paper torn]
by Captain Beach of the regt commander [paper torn]
by Leo C Haras in the New Jersey 
line for 2 years

Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio
at the rate of 80 Dollars - Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.

Certificate of Pension issued the 10 day of October 1833 and [illegible]
Gaines Cincinnati

Arrears to the 15 Dec 2/11
Semi-anl. allowance ending 1832 - $131.32

Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.

Recorded by Daniel Boyd [signature] Clerk 
Book E Vol. 8 Page 17
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The heir of John B. Turner
deed
to 
The United States

Proof of heirship.
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Hamilton Common Pleas Court
County of Hamilton & State of Ohio   SS

On this 13th day of August in the year 1833 personally appeared in open Court, now in session, in the said Court of Common Pleas in and for the said County of Hamilton and state of Ohio, Mrs, Jane Miller of the City of Cincinnati said County and state, a witness of lawful age and entitled to credit, who being first duly sworn states as follows;- that she was well acquainted with the late John B. Turner of said City, she having intermarried with Nathan Turner (her first husband) who was the half brother of the said John M. Turner now decd,- She also states that she was also well acquainted with the wife of John B. Turner, and knows that the said John and his said wife resided for several years in Fayette County
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in the state of Pennsylvania, which
time with that of her knowledge of them
since their removal to Hamilton County
Ohio, makes more than twenty years;
that the said John B. Turner and wife
were lawfully married, she has not
the least doubt, having always heard
them acknowledge themselves as man
and wife and known that they were
recognized as such by their neighbours;
She further states that the following
are the children and only legal heirs
of the said John B. Turner decd by
the said marriage; - Susan Sutton,
wife of Daniel Sutton, John Turner,
Sarah Simpson, wife of Wm Simpson,
Martha Sands, wife of Daniel Sands,
Nancy Nicholson, wife of Lowdy Nich-
olson & Mary Turner, yet unmarried;
that the maiden name of the wife
of said John B. Turner decd was
"Beney [illegible]", and she died twelve
or fifteen years before the time of
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^his death which occurred on the 26th day
of October last in said city; - and
finally she says that the said John
B. Turner remained a widower from
the death of his said wife, until
his own death on the said 26th of October 1832; - and that his death
was occasioned by the Cholera which
there prevailed in said city. - 

Sworn to & subscribed in open Court, on the day & date first above mentioned

Jane her X mark Miller

Danl Gano Clerk
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due to him the said deed, commencing on the 4th of March 1831 and ending on the 26th day of  October 1832, when he the said John B. Turner departed this life. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 13th day of August 1833.
Danl Gano
a/o T.H.C
a/o Ohio
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3783
Jno. B. Turner
to
Declaration to obtain a Pension
The United States
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State of Ohio
County of Hamilton
On this 13th day of August in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two,  personally appeared  in open court, before The Honorable George P. Torrence. Judge his honorable associates of the Court of Common Pleas of said County of Hamilton and State of Ohio. Now sitting John B. Turner a resident of the city of Cincinnati in the County of Hamilton aforesaid, in the State of Ohio, aged seventy two years, on the 1st day of March last past who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated; viz on or about the 12th day of April 1779, at Morristown
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Morris County, New Jersey, as a volunteer
in the company commanded by Captains
Joseph Beach, of Col. Jacob Ford's Regiment
of New Jersey Militia, that, a short time after
he entered the service aforesaid, the said Col.
Ford died, and was succeeded in command
by Col. Hathaway; that he the said John
B. Turner continued in the service afore-
said until after the capture of Lord Corn-
wallis and the restoration of Peace, first
as to the exact period, he does not now
recollect; that the said Company(/) were
termed "Minute Men," and the services in
which they were usually employed were
to guard the lines - to hunt up the to..[cut off]
guard prisoners taken by the United States army,
and the various other services of
"Minute Men." - That during part of their
 time of service above stated, General
Washington's headquarters was at the 
said Col. Ford's, as well before as after
the death of the fallen, that said minute
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Men were never engaged in any battle while
he the said John B. Turner was a member there of as aforesaid, but they were engaged in the performance of the duties of hunting up Tories, guarding the lines, guarding prisoners. The "Continental House" [illegible]; - the said John B. Turner also states, that he had a discharge from the said Captain Beach, when his said service terminated; but the same was destroyed by fire which destroyed his brother's house in or about the year 1823. And finally, the said John B. Turner says that his name is not, nor hath ever been in any pension or pay roll in the United States; and that he now relinquishes all claims whatever against the United States as well as against all and every state, and claims merely the pay allowed by the said act of June 7th 1839.
John B his X mark Turner

Attest
H.P. Gaines
sworn and subscribed in open court August [illegible] 1832. Daniel Gano Clerk
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We Henry Muggeridge, a clergy
man, residing in the city of Cincinnati,
Hamilton County, Ohio, and William T
Cullum (illegible) a justice of the peace in
and for said County, and for a number of
years, and at this time, a resident of said
County, do hereby certify that we are well
acquainted with the within named John B.
turner, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration,- that we believe him to 
be seventy two years of age,-that we also believe he is recognized by old Revolutionary soldiers in said City and County, to have served in the war of the Revolution as he has stated of which statement we for ourselves have no doubt whatsoever;- and [illegible]
T. Cullum, recollect, and how states had [illegible] Gen. La Fayette was in said City in the years 1824 or 1825. I recollect to have understood he the said John B. Turner [illegible] with the old Revolutionists who attended upon that occasion,- of which fact, and of the recognition of the said Turner by the said soldiers of the Revolution, as one who had participated in some measure, as the war of Independence, I have no doubt.
 Sworn and subscribed, the day and year aforesaid,
Aug 15 1932
Henry Muggeridge
Wm T. Cullum
Daniel Gano Clerk
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And the said court do hereby declare this
opinion, after the investigation of the matter
and after putting the interrogatories prescribed
by the War Department, that the 
above named applicant was a revolutionary
soldier and served as he states, and the court further certifies that it appears to them that Henry Muggeridge who has signed the preceeding certificate is a clergyman resident in the city of Cincinnati and that Wm T. Cullum who has also signed the same is a resident of Hamilton County five miles below Cincinnati and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit---
               I Daniel Gano [illegible] clerk of the court of Common Pleas in and for said County of Hamilton do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of John B. Turner for a pension - 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office at Cincinnati this 16 August 1832
Danl Gano
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Hamilton Common Pleas Court-
Hamilton County, Ohio-

I George P Torrence, President Judge of the said Court of Common Pleas, do hereby certify that the foregoing and annexed certificate of Daniel Gano, Clerk of said court of Hamilton Common Pleas," and the seal of said court are in due form of law,- and that he the said Danl Gano is now acting as clerk of said court (now in session) and that full faith and credit right and should be given in said county and elsewhere, to all his acts and deeds as such.-  Given under my hand this [illegible] day of August 1932
George P Torrence
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John B Turner decd
Ohio Hamilton Co
No 3783
for 1779 private
2 years $80

5. [illegible] 1.2. [illegible]
Amount due the heirs Susan Sutton, John Turner, Sarah Simpson, Martha Sands, Nancy Nicholson & Mary Turner to time of pensioners death, Dec 15 [illegible] 6 Oct. 1832
H. P. Gains  $131.50
Cincinnati
Ohio
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BRIEF in the case of John B Turner
of Hamilton County in the State of Ohio
(Act 7th June, 1832)

1. Was the declaration made before a court of a Judge?   Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he?   72 years
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
------------------------
Period | Duration of Service | Rank | Names of General and Field officers under whom he served
-----------------
March in 1779 | "Continued to serve until after Cornwallis was captured" | Private | Col Jacob [illegible] Col [illegible] Capt [illegible] New Jersey Militia

5. In what battles was he engaged?  -  
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service?  Morris County, New Jersey
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?   by[crossed out]
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?   defective in regard to period of service.

Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.

Examining Clerk.
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John B. Turner
S. 3843
BA-J/AWF

Mrs. W. W. Wood
3015- 56th Avenue
Oakland, California

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of the following soldiers, all from the State of New Jersey- William Beckett, Josiah Beckett, John Turner, Richard Heritage, and Judah Heritage.

The Revolutionary War records of this office have been searched and no claims for pension found based on the service of William Beckett, Josiah Beckett, Richard Heritage, Judah Heritage; these surnames were searched under similar spellings.

The record of John B. Turner which follows was obtained from papers on file in pension claim, S. 3843, based on his military service in the War of the Revolution.  This is the record of the only John Turner who served with the New Jersey troops, found on file in the Revolutionary War records for this office.

John B. Turner was born March 1, 1760, place not stated, nor were the names of his parents given.

John B. Turner enlisted at Morristown, Morris County, New Jersey, served in Captain Joseph Beach's company, in Colonel Jacob Ford's New Jersey regiment, Colonel Jacob Ford lived only a short time, and the regiment was commanded by Colonel Hathaway; the said John B. Turner continued to serve at
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various times until "after the capture of Lord Cornwallis and the restoration of Peace," in all about two years.

The soldier, John B. Turner, applied for pension August 13, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Cincinnati, Ohio.  He did in Cincinnati, October 26, 1832.  The pension was allowed.

John B. Turner married, date and place not shown, Beney(?) Carns; it was stated that they lived several years in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, before moving to Cincinnati, Ohio.  She died twelve or fifteen years prior to the death of the soldier.

John B, Turner left at his death the following children-
Susan, wife of Daniel Sutton
John Turner
Sarah, wife of William Simpson
Martha, wife of Daniel Sands
Nancy, wife of Lowdy (?) Nicholson
Mary Turner, "then unmarried".

Mrs. Jane Miller of Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1833 stated that her first husband was Nathan Turner, half brother of John B. Turner, and that she was well acquainted with the said John B. Turner, and his wife Beney.

Reference was made to a brother of the soldier, John B. Turner, as being alive in 1823, name of brother not designated.

The papers on file in this claim contain no further discernible data in regard to family.

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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The Heirs and legal Representatives of Jno B. Turner decd
to
The United States

Qualification for pension in light of their ancestor.
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Hamilton County, Ohio  SS
On this 8th day of March 1833,
personally appeared in open court before the Court of Common Pleas of said County of Hamilton in the said State of Ohio, Elizabeth Brown, and Doctor Pulaski Smith, witnesses of lawful age and residents in said County of Hamilton, who being first duly sworn state as follows; - that they had [illegible] John B. Turner who has signed the declarations hereto attached, for several years previous to his death in October last & that he was respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resided in said County of Hamilton, to have been a soldier of the Revolution for the time and in the manner stated before in his said Declaration as these affiants verily believe;-and there affiants for these state that they concur in that opinion of his neighbors;- and finally that the said John B. Turner died in the city
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of Cincinnati in said County of Hamilton and state of Ohio, on the 26th day of October 1832 leaving the following children as his only lawful heirs (but no widow) viz Susan, now the wife of Danl. Sutton; John Turner; - Sarah, now the wife of Wm Simpson; - Martha, now the wife of Daniel Sands;- Nancy, now the wife of Lowdy Nicholson & Mary Turner now unmarried, - all of whom once resided and several of them now reside in said County of Hamilton;- and the said Elizabeth Brown and Pulaski Smith, in conclusion state that from their knowledge of the character of the  said John M. Turner, they believe that he was a man of truth and veracity and that he was so esteemed amongst his acquaintances and neighbours in said county.

Elizabeth her X mark Brown
Pulaski Smith

Subscribed and sworn to the day and year first above mentioned on the first pages of this sheet.

Danl Gano
[illegible]
H.C. of Ohio
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And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, in addition to that before stated and attached to the declaration of the said Jno B. Turner on the 13th day of August last, - that it appears to them that Elizabeth Brown and D. Pulaski Smith who have signed the immediately preceding affidavit, are residents of the said County of Hamilton and state of Ohio;- and that their statement is entitled to credit;- they being witnesses of truth and veracity in courts of Justice and elsewhere.-

I Daniel Gano Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County of Hamilton and state of Ohio, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of the heirs and legal representatives of John B. Turner for a pension from the 4th of March 1831 to the 26th day October 1832 when he said Jno. B. Turner departed this life.

On testimony whereof I have hereunto set me seal.

[seal]
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and seal of office, this 8th day of March, 1833
Daniel Gano
H.C.P Ohio

Hamilton County
State of Ohio  SS

I Jno M. Goodenow, President Judges of the Common Pleas, Court of Hamilton County and state of Ohio, do hereby certify, that Daniel Gano who has signed the immediately proceeding certificate, above, is acting as Clerk of said court and that his said certificate, with his seal of office thereto attached, is in due form of law.- Given under my hand and seal: this 8th day of March 1833.

Jno. M. Goodenow, Past. Judge
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(Official)
J. L. Edwards Esquire
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington

The care of the Honbl . Lewis Cass
Secretary of War.
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Cincinnati, Ohio
August 14th 1833.-

Sir/

Agreeably to your directions in the letter inclosed with the declaration of John B. Turner. I have taken proof of the marriage of the said John B. Turner and wife:- that she died before he did; that he died on the 26th of October last - a widower; and lastly of the names of the children and only heirs of said Turner.-

I had thought that the former proof by Mrs. Brown & Hector [illegible] left certain childrens and lawful heirs, but no widow," was sufficient - but it appears that it was not.

By the Laws of Ohio as well as by those of most of the states, the children of a decd person by a woman recognized as a wife are lawful heirs, even if they were born before
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the marriage - and, as the law never presumes crimes - (which adultery amounts to) - a man's children recognized by him as such, will be presumed legal heirs to his estate until the illegitimacy be shown by those who assert contrary.  But we have [illegible] that the heirs in question are the only offspring now in existence, of a man and woman that only holding themselves out to the world as man and wife, for more than twenty years, - but the legality of their marriage (although there is not direct proof of it never doubted by their neighbours. - If this proof be not sufficient to entitle the children of a [illegible] soldier to the pensions due to their fathers, great justice might be done, - and the legitimate heirs of many old soldiers, might be deprived of the paltry pittance allowed to their decd ancestors, commencing on the 4th of march 1831 and terminating at the death of the soldiers themselves.-  You, Sir, will no doubt consider the proof, especially at the third time of sending on, attested by three distinct official seals as sufficient.- No other proof can be procured; - as last I was told so.-  The papers of Joseph Echelberry are also inclosed.-  This is the second time of writing his declaration; - and I take this course because of the great delay in returning his
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formal papers from Annapolis, to which  place you say they were sent "for proof of his service."-
Please give me an answer as soon as your convenience may permit.

I am very respectfully yours
H. P. Gaines
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War Dept
Pension Office
May 9th 1833

Sir

The papers in the case of John B. Tuner are herewith returned.  In all such cased the amt due up to the time of the applicants death must be paid to the widow, if there be any, and if not, then to the children, and if there be neither then to the Legal Representative of the decd

Proof of the facts must be made before a Court of Record, and a certificate of the same must be given by the Clerk under his Seal of Office and sent to this Dept

I am very respectfully
yr Obt Servt
J.L. Edwards

H. P. Gaines Esq
Cincinnati
Ohio
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3843
INVALID.
File No. 3873
John B. Turner 
Privt Rev War 
Act: June 7 1832
Index:-- Vol. A, Page 38[illegible]
[Arrangement of 1870.]
19[illegible] June 8. [illegible] to Mrs. W. W. Wood Aug
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John B Turner in Aug 1832 of Cincinnati Hamilton Co who is aged 72 yrs on March 1 1832.  On April 1779 enlisted in Morristown NJ he vol. in Col Ford's NJ regt militia & he [illegible] was succeeded by Col. Hathaway & continued until after taking Cornwallis being a minister he served in guarding the lines hunt Tories guard prisoners in no battles.  Died of cholera Oct 26 1832 in F  
Had several children residing in Hamilton Co.  
He resided for several years in Fayette Co Pen
mar Mary Carvos
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3015-56th Avenue
Oakland California
May 16, 1938

A.D.Hiller
Veterans Administration
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:  I would deeply appreciate your assistance in this matter.  I am looking for military records of certain persons on my family line who served in the Revolutionary War.

I am hoping that we can trace them through the pension department  These men lived in Gloucester County, New Jersey.  I would deeply appreciate any information you can give me regarding any of these men:

William Beckett
Josiah Beckett
John Turner
Richard Heritage
Judah Heritage

[stamp] RECEIVED MAY 21 1938 MAIL SUB-DIV. VETS. ADM. READER No. 6

Thanking you very kindly, I am Sincerely yours
Stella J. Wood
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THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES
Form VAM-51
12-5-41

Division of Veterans' Administration Archives

BOUNTY LAND WARRANT RECORD CARD*

NAME Turner, John L
GRADE Private "in Moylan's Dragons"
LINE Pennsylvania

WARRANT NUMBER 10515
ACREAGE 100
ISSUED August 10, 1789 to Richard Platt, assignee

The information concerning the issuance of warrants carded on this form is found in volumes 2 to 4 of "Land Warrants Issued Prior to 1800" which are registers of bounty land warrants issued to non-commissioned officers and privates under congressional resolutions of September 16, 1776 and subsequent dates.  Other records relative to the applications for warrants appear to have been destroyed in the War Department fire of November 9, 1800.  Information concerning warrants surrendered to the Federal Government is to be found in General land Office records in The National Archives.
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Md
Turner, John T.
Pvt. 4" Regt. Md line
Widow - Mary
from 1835 List

Certificate #950 issued Oct. 13, 1829
pensioned from Nov. 29, 1828
Soldier died April 27, 1831
from Agency Book

1835 List shows under Act of 1828
for Stewart County Tenn
" John H. Marble, Agent for widow, Mary

Note:  This case was missing in Rev. War pension file, Apr 30, 1940