Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 3278, Andrew Elder, Va.
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SERVICE NUMBER
Va. Elder, Andrew R. 3278
CONTENTS
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State of Tennessee on this twenty third day of
County of Grainger march in the year of our Lord 1833
Personally appeared before me David McAnally one of the acting Justices in and for the County aforesaid Andrew Elder resident of said County and state of Tennessee aged Eighty five years who being first sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed the 7th of June 1832 that he inlisted in the army of the United States in the year 1776 for two years in Boutetourt County in the State of Virginia with Lieutenant Adam Walles in Capt. Thomas Posey Company in the 7th Virginia Regiment Commanded by - Coln. Dangerfield marched to Gloucester Court house in Virginia from there to Mount Pleasant from there to Green Island after Governor Dunmore left that part of Virginia he was stationed at Williamsburgh. from Williamsburgh in the spring of 1777 he was marched to Philadelphia where he enlisted again for two years more after his first two years Expired his second inlistment was with a Capt. Hill of the 7th Virginia Regiment. Some time after this he was attached to Coln Morgans Regiment under Lord Capt. Posey, shortly after this he was in Nineteen small skirmishes in about two weeks in the state of Jersey in the fall of this year he fought at [illegible] at the taken of General Burgoyne from Terelogue he was march to Trenton from Trenton to Morristown from there to White Marsh and Joined General Washington when the British left Philadelphia he was marched to Sandy hook and from there to Albany
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in the spring of 1779 he was marched under General
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State of Tennessee
Granger County March 23rd 1833
I David McAnally one of the acting Justices in and for the County aforesaid do Certify that Andrew Elder who has sworn and subscribed to the foregoing Declaration for a pension is an old and infirm man that I would be with great [illegible] and hazzard of his Life to get before the Court of this County if he Could get there at all
Given under my hand and seal the day and date first above written
David McAnally
Justice of the Peace
State of Tennessee I John Cocke Clerk of
Granger County the Court of pleas and quarter Sessions for said County do certify that David McAnally whose name is subscribed to the foregoing affidavit is an acting justice of the peace for said County duly commissioned and qualified and that full faith and credit ought to be given to all his Official acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office at Office in Rutledge this 17th day of April 1833
John Cocke Clk
by P. S. Cocke D.C.
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State of Tennessee On the 19th day of August
Grainger County in the year of our Lord 1833
Personally appeared before me David McAnally one of the acting Justices in and for the County aforesaid Andrew Elder resident of said County and State Aged Eighty five years who being first sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefitt of the provision made by the act of Congress passed the 7th of June 1832 that he enlisted in the army of the united states in the 1776 for two years in Botetourt County in the state of Virginia with Lieutenant Adam Walls, in Capt. Thomas Poseys Company in the 7th Vir, Regiment Commanded by Coln - Dangerfield marchd. Gloucester Court house in Virginia from thence to mount pleasant from thence to Gwins Island - after Governor dunmore left that part of Virginia he was [illegible] at Williamsburgh from Williamsburgh in the spring of 1777 he was marched to Philadelphia, where he enlisted for two years more after his first time of two years Expired this second enlistment was with Capt. Hill of the 7th Virginia Regiment some time after this he was attached to Coln. Morgans Regiment under said Capt. Posey shortly after this he was in thirteen small engagements in about two weeks in the state of Jersey in the fall of the year he fought at Saratoga at the taking of Genl. Burgoyne from Saratoga he was marched to Trenton from Trentown to Morristown from there to white marsh and Joind. Genl. Washington when the
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British Left Philadelphia he was marched to sandy hook and from there to Albany in the spring of 1779 he was marchd. under Genl. Sulaven against the Indians in the state of new york after this he was attachd. to Coln Russels Regiment after he joined Coln. Russels Regiment he was marchd. through Pennsylvania Maryland Virginia North Carolina and to Charleston in South Carolina where on the 14th day of March 1780 he was discharged by Genl. Lincoln after serving four years and two months and that the [illegible] of No Pennsylvania companies in service and hereby relinquishes every claim to a pension or annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of any agency of any state what ever and he further states on oath that through age and infirmity he is not able to get before the Court of this or any County whatever
Andrew Elder x his mark
Ques where and in what year were you born answ, I was Born in the year 1748 in Charles County in the state of Pennsylvania
have you any Record of your age and if so where is it Answ, I have none at my Command Ques, where did you live when cald. in service where have you been since the Revolutionary war and where do you now Live answer, I lived in the forks of James River in Botetourt County state of Virginia when I enlisted since the war I have lived in Washington County Virginia in Sullivan County Tennessee state and for the last twenty five years I have lived where I now live in Grainger County State of Tennessee State the names of your Neighbors who will vouch for your veracity and their belief in your being a Revolutionary soldier
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Capt Robert McGinnes Coln Thomas Whelsede Coln Warham Easley Genl. John Cocke David McAnally senr. Esq. John Ogan George Wolf John James what has become of your discharge a great many years past I gave it to Coln Russel of Virginia being told that the Legaslation of that state would do something for the soldiers of that state and never got it again
Sworn to and subscribed Andrew Elder x his mark
before me the day and date
first above written
David McAnally
Justice of the peace for
Grainger county
We Charles McAnally Clergyman resident in the County of Grainger and state of Tennessee and Henry Hipshire Residing in said county and state hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Andrew Elder who has subscribed and sworn to the fore going declaration that we believe him to be 85 years old that he is reputed and believed in the Neighborhood where he lives to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to and subscribed before
me the day and date first
above written Chas. McAnally clerk
David McAnally
justice of the peace for Henry Hipshire
Grainger County
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State of Tennessee I David McAnally one of the
Grainger County acting Justices of the peace for the County of Grainger do Certify that Andrew Elder who has sworn to and subscribed to the foregoing Declaration for a pension is an old and infirm man that it would be with Great inconvenience and hazzard of his Life to get before the Court of the County if he could get there at all and that he is believed in the Neighborhood where he lives to have been a soldier of the Revolution and hat I concure in that opinion and that McAnally Clergyman and Henry Hipshire whose names are signed to the foregoing deposition are men of Respectability and veracity and ought to be believed and full faith and credit is allowed to their character
Given under my hand this 19th day of August 1833
David McAnally
Justice of the peace for
Grainger County
State of Tennessee I John Cocke Clerk of
Grainger County the Court of pleas and quarter sessions for the County of Grainger aforesaid do hereby certify that David McAnally whose name is subscribed to the foregoing amended declaration of Andrew Elder and whose signature appears in his own proper handwriting, is an acting justice of the peace in and for the County of Grainger aforesaid duly commissioned and qualified and that full faith and credit ought to be given to all his official acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office at office in Rutledge this 30th August 1833
John Cocke Clk
by P. S. Cocke D.C.
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Andrew Elder
Susd. act 1832 Tenn
A H Mackland
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State of Tennessee
County of Grainger County
Be it known, that on this Eighth day of November A.D. 1852 before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared: Elizabeth Elder
resident of Horn Hill in said County, and made oath according to law that She is the widow of the identical Andrew Elder who was a Soldier in the war of the Revolution, and who has heretofore made an application for the benefit of the Pension Act of 
That she is directly interested as a claimant in said Pension, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my Agent may use in prosecuting said claim.
Countermanding and revoking all Powers of Attorney and authority heretofore given, I hereby constitute and appoint SAMUEL M. KNIGHT, of Washington City, my true and lawful Attorney to prosecute the claim of Andrew Elder decd for any amount of Revolutionary Pension, or increase of Pension that may be due; and I hereby authorize my said Attorney to examine all papers or documents in relation to said claim, on file in the Department at Washington City or elsewhere, to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive for my exclusive benefit, the certificate which may be issued for said claim, which certificate I wish made payable at the Washington City, D. C. Agency; to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed, and to do all things that I might or could do were I personally present. Hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said Attorney and Agent shall lawfully do in the premises.
Elizabeth Elder x her mark
Sworn to, Subscribed, and Acknowledged before me the day and year above written, and I hereby certify that I believe the said Elizabeth Elder to be directly interested in said claim as set forth, and to be the identical party therein alleged.
Anderson Dalton seal
Justice of the peace
State of Tennessee
County of Grainger
It is hereby Certified, that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me, Clerk of the Court of Grainger County, (of said County,) that Elizabeth Elder is the party who has sworn to, and acknowledged the foregoing Declaration and Power of Attorney, is the identical widow of said Andrew Elder the reputed soldier aforesaid. I further certify, that Andrew Dalton Esq. before whom the preceding affidavit and Power of Attorney were made and acknowledged was, at the time of so doing, a Justice of the Peace, in and for said County, and that the signature purporting to be his, I believe to be
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of Office, this thirteenth day of November 1852.
James C. Clark Clerk
of the County Court
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No. 24702
Andrew Elder, Grainger County
Tennessee
(j)
no decision can be had in this case until the proof required without shall have been produced.
Jany 16, 1834
Jno. Coke Clk Grainger County
Tennessee Rutledge
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,

Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: }). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.

A Statement, showing the Service of Andrew Elder Grainger County Tennessee
Period when the service was rendered.
Enlisted 1776
Enlisted 1777
Duration of the claimant’s service. Years. Months. Days.
2 years
2 years
Rank of the claimant. 
private
Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served.
Cap Posey, Colonel Dangerfield
Cap Hill of Virga. Regt Col. Morgan Cap Posey
Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service.
85 years Botetourt County Virginia
Proof by which the declaration is supported. 7th Virginia Regt.
Traditionary evidence & Clergyman's Certificate, witness not certified Credible by the Justice, & no opinion given by said Justice, that applicant was a Soldier - paper legally authenticated
Battle of Saratoga
As the applicants name does not appear on the Rolls he should prove his service by at least one credible witness who had personal knowledge of his service see not j. Sept 26, 1833
Applicant states that he served 4 years & 2 months & was discharged by Gl. Lincoln 1st Marcy 178 in South Carolina
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
JAMES L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted: This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered wand who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c, Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service. Four general classes of classes are embraced in this law: 
1. The Regular Troops. 
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers. 
3. Persons employed in the Naval Service. 
4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claim- ing the benefit of this law its officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record. DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. 
County of 
On this ______ day of ______ personally appeared (a) before ___________ A.B. a resident (b) of ____________ in the county of __________ and State, Territory or District of ________ aged (c) _______ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the army of the United States in the year (d) _______, with ________ and served in the _________ (e) regiment of the _________ line, under the following named officers:
 [Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service: (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.] 
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of ________
 Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. _____________: A.B. 
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
 And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. 
I __________ of the Court of _____________ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of __________ for a pension. 
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this ________ day of ________ &c. 
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out. 
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz: (k) We, A.B., a Clergyman, residing in the _______ and C.D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion. 
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid. 
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A.B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit. 
I, __________ Clerk of the Court of _____________ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of __________ &c. 
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge of commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction. 
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration , (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or if detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be ex-expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribed and be sworn to, one of the declarations also provided, according to the nature of his case. 
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia. 
1. Where and in what year were you born? 
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it? 
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live? 
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom? 
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
 6. To a Soldier.} Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? 
To an Officer.} Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement to the applicant. 
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons-one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. -If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates. 
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject. 
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court. 
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature. 
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
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[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule. 
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned. 
[d] The declaration must mention the period or periods of the war when he served. 
[e] Every continual officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: 
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:-For ____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a ________. For ______ months and _______ days, I served as a _______; and for such service I claim a pension." 
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid reconciling to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase [italicized] about three or four months, is to indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit. 
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable. 
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required. 
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case. 
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers. 
Mode of authenticating papers. 
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as not to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 
Proof of Service. 
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. 
[pointing finger icon] The notes from [a] t [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only. 
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases. 
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact. 
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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Affidavits of Elizabeth Elder
State of Tennessee
Grainger County Personally appeared before me Henry Williams an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid Elizabeth Elder a resident of said County aged upwards of Eighty years who being sworn according to law saith she is the widow of Andrew Elder late of this County and that he departed this life on the 30th day of May 1834. That in the year 1833 he subscribed and swore to a declaration which is herewith annexed in order to obtain a pension that he told her while it was given the second time Washington City it was returned again for want of proof he could prove his services by Old Mr. James Shields of Green County Tennessee if he could get any person to go there for to procure his evidence for him But before his papers were returned her husband the said Andrew Elder had died as above stated and she never attempted to procure Shields evidence until the year 1840 when she was told that she would be entitled to the money if she could establish her husbands claim and she then requested Capt. James K Manally to ascertain by letter whether Shields knew Elder in the army or not for she had often heard her husband say they were raised Close neighbors & went to school together from Shields stating he knew a man by the name of Andrew Elder in the army &c That she requested McAnally to go to Green Cty and take Shields' testimony but before he had an Opportunity of doing so Mr. Shields died and now she knows of no person by whom she can prove his services she further states that has often heard Andrew Elder say that he had a Brother in the army who died while there, That she was married to the above named Andrew Elder about 35 or six years ago by Charles McAnally a member of the Methodist Church
Sworn and subscribed this 22nd day of May 1846 before me Henry Williams
Justice of peace for Grainger County Elizabeth Elder x her mark
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State of Tennessee Grainger County
Personally appeared before me Henry Williams an acting justice of the peace in and for said County James K McAnally and made oath in due form of law that about twelve months since he got Clabourne W Lathim P. Al.et Thorn Hill to write a line to Old Mr. James Shields of Green County Tennessee to know if said Shields was acquainted with Andrew Elder late of this County in the army Shields wrote a letter stating as follows That he knew a man by the name of Andrew Elder in the army of the Revolution and had known him and some of his fathers family from his early years and it was the same he had a brother named Matthew who died in the army and was buried on Basking Ridge the state of Jersey about 30 miles from New York but that he had not seen him for fifty years he further states that he is well acquainted with Elizabeth Elder who swore to the within affidavit that she is the widow of the identical Andrew Elder who swore to the declaration here with enclosed in 1833 and that the was to go & get Shields evidence for Elizabeth Elder but before he had a chance Shields died Sworn and subscribed this 22nd day of May 1841
before me Henry Williams
Justice of the peace for Granger County James K McAnally
State of Tennessee Grainger County
Personally appeared before me Henry Williams an acting justice of the peace in and for the County County aforesaid Clabourne W Lathim and made oath in due form of law that about twelve months ago he wrote a letter to old Mr. James Shields of Green County Tenn. for Mrs. Elder to know if he knew her husband Andrew Elder in the army the answer received from Shields was that he knew a man of that in the Army that he Shields served a tour in the Maryland Militia and there he seen Elder in service with whom he had been well acquainted, when a boy and they had went to School together and their families were Close neighbors &c and that said Elder had a brother named Matthew Elder who was also in the Army & died there and was buried on Basking Ridge in Jersey State about 30 miles from New York but that he had not seen Andrew for 50 years
Lathim further states that he is well acquainted with Elizabeth Elder and that she is the Widow of Andrew Elder who made the declaration in 1833 That the said Elder was always believed and reputed to have been a soldier of the Revolution by every body who knew him Sworn and subscribed the4 24th day of May 1841
before me Henry Williams
Justice of the peace for Grainger County C W Lathim
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State of Tennessee Grainger County
Personally appeared before me Henry Williams an acting justice of the peace in and for said County County Lettuce McGinnis and made Oath in due form of Law that she was well acquainted with Andrew Elder who made the declaration in 1833 that is here with annexed for many years, That her Father moved shortly after the Revolutionary War into the settlement where Andrew Elder resided in the state of Virginia that she heard many of the neighbors talk about his (Elder's) being in the Army &c and that she then often heard her relation who lived in that settlement say that Andrew Elder brought three sons Clothes, come to them after their son was killed in a battle (she thinks) at Saratoga her relations was named Logan and the young man who killed was named Hugh Logan She further states that she has often heard Elder tell the same things and she has doubt but the are true for they were told 50 years ago when there was no talk of Pensions
Sworn and subscribed this 24th day of May 1841
before me Henry Williams Lettuce McGinnis x her mark
Justice of the peace for Grainger County
State of Tennessee Grainger County
Personally appeared before me Henry Williams Justice of the peace in and for said County Charles McAnally a minister of the Methodist Church & made oath in due form of law that he solemnized the Rites of Matrimony between Andrew Elder and Elizabeth Snyder in the year 1804 or 5 and that the said Andrew Elder is the identical Andrew Elder who swore and subscribed the declaration here annexed and that he departed this life on the 30th day of May 1834 and that his wife Elizabeth is yet living and is the very person who swore and subscribed the foregoing affidavit that they were & are both persons of unquestionable Veracity & truth
Sworn to and subscribed the 8th day of June 1841
before me Henry Williams C McAnally
justice of the peace for Grainger County
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State of Tennessee Grainger County
I Henry Williams an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County afore said do Certify That Elizabeth Elder James K McAnally Claibourne W Lathim Lettuce McGinnis and Charles McAnally are all person Credibility and that faith and Credit should attached to their affidavits Given under my hand and seal this 8th day June AD 1841 Henry Williams
seal
Justice of the peace for Grainger County

State of Tennessee I Edward Tate Clerk of the County
Grainger County Court for said County Do hereby Certify that Henry Williams Esqr. whose name appears to the foregoing Certificates is now and was at the time Signing the same an acting Justice of the peace for said County duly Elected Commissioned and qualified according to Law. And that his Signature appears in his own proper handwriting and that full faith and credit is or ought to be given to his official acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office at Office in Rutledge the 19th Day of June 1841
Edward Tate Clerk
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3278
Andrew Elder
REJECTED
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Let. to Hon. A McClellan
July 30, 1841
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J L Edwards Esqr, Present
Comm of Pensions
War Dept D.C.

July 30, 1841
Tenn:
Hon A. McClellan
HR
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Hall of the house of Dept
July 29th - 1841
J L Edwards Esqr
Sir
I have received a letter from Mr Jas K McAnally stating that he had sent to your offices some time since the Papers of Mrs. Elders for a Pension
please have them examined and let me know what the result is of the examination and Send me the Instructions if anything is lacking enable you to place her name upon the Pension roll
Yours Respectfully
A. McClellan From
PS The Papers in this case, was Mailed at Thorn Hill Granger Cy E. Tenn - A. McClellan
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Andrew Elder, decd
Tennessee
Suspended
See let 30th July 1841 Hon A. McClellan
3278
Act 7 June 1832