Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 10,868, Jacob Van Gilder, Penn.
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(3-1776)
Van Gilder, Jacob 
Margaret
SERVICE Penn.
NUMBER R. 10.868
CONTENTS _
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No
Jacob Van Gilder
No.
June 7, 1832
Seymour Barnes 
[Illegible]
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State of Virginia
Monongalia County
On this 28 day of [crossed out]/28/[crossed out Jany 1850 the County
Personally appeared before this county court [illegible crossed out words] of the County and State aforesaid William Van Gilder a respectable citizen aged 49 years. who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the acts of congress passed June 7th 1832 and the act June 19th 1844 for and on account of the service of his father Jacob Van Gilder who was enlisted in
the Pennsylvania line [illegible] under Capt Bird 25th Regiment under Col Butler for During the war, that he first entered the army as a substitute for one year and then enlisted for
during the war and was in the service 5 years that he has no proof of the service other those that in archives of the Government that his father Jacob Van Gilder died [crossed out word] July 1846 aged 94 years leaving a widow who died Sept 14 1849 aged 95 years that the said Jacob Van Gilder lived in Maryland
previous to and removed to Monongalia Co Va in the year 1799 resided in said County untill the period of his death, that the was married to Margaret Gibler in the town of or near Hagers town about the year 1786 that she never afterwards married
sworn and subscribed the day and year above mentioned
Willer Van Gilder
We, Lewis Williams Augustin Wells
residing in County of Monongalia State of Virginia hereby certify that we were personally acquainted with the applicant and his father Jacob Van Gilder for the period of between 40 and 50 years previous to his death and with his family that we believe them to be of the age specified in the declaration that Jacob Van Gilder Was a Revolutionary soldier for the time
stated in the declaration and was married to the person alluded to in the declaration previous to Jany 1st 1794 from the fact that one of the daughters now Mrs May May is full 64 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resided have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
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Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Lewis Williams
Augustin Wells
from the evidence
and the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after be investigation of the matter, that the above named Jacob Van Gilder was a Revolutionary soldier & served as is stated in the declaration of his son and that he was
married previous to Jany 1st 1794 to the person for whom an additional pension is claimed and that he at the time stated in the declaration leaving a widow who died Sept 1849 aged 95 years and the court further certifies, that it appears to them that the
persons who signed the preceding certificate are persons entitled to credit and are personally known to the court
I W. T. Willey Clerk of Court of Monongalia
County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original procedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of William Van Gilder for his father and mother for a pension
In Testimony whereof I have here unto set my name and affixed the seal of said Co this 30th January 1850
W. G. Willey
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May 27, 1936
Jacob Van Gilder, R. 10868
William Van Gelder, S.C. 24028
BA-J/MMHF:MLB
Mr. Arthur Pine Van Gelder
1415 Delaware Avenue
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to that part of your letter of May 2, in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Isaac Van Gelder (1735-18__) who served in the Cape May County, New Jersey militia, James, Abraham, Jeremiah and Peter Van Gelder and Jacob Van Filer (1759-1845), of Pennsylvania, Isaac, Ezekiel, Smith and James Van Gelder, and that of William Van Gelder, of Northern New Jersey.
There are no claims for pension on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of an Isaac Van Gelder who served in the New Jersey troops, or who applied for pension while a resident of that state, nor of a James, Abraham, Jeremiah or Peter Van Gelder, nor are there claims for pension on file based upon service in the War of 1812 of an Abraham, Isaac, Ezekiel, Smith or James Van Gelder. All spellings of the surname were used in the search of the records. The Revolutionary War record of Jacob Van Gilder of the states named above, and the War of 1812 record of William Van Gelder or Van Gilder, of New Jersey, are furnished herewith as found in the claims for pension based upon their service in those wars.
You have received, doubtless, reply in regard to other data requested in your letter in regard to the Civil War, Spanish War and World War.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
[Written on bottom of letter]
This letter was sent over by Mrs. Clark, His. Lib[?]., Vets. Admn. for us to use in this section + ret. to her, which I did.
F.
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[Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873 crossed out]
REJECTED
10.869.
P.O. _
Jacob Van Gilder
Service: _
Enlisted: _, 18__.
Discharged: _, 18__.
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Jacob Van Gilder
Ap.
Monongalia
not [illegible]
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[Stamped] RECEIVED 12:00 MAIL SUB. DIV. VETS ADM. READER 18 JUN 8 1936
[Letterhead] 1415 DELAWARE AVENUE WILMINGTON, DELAWARE
June 5, 1936.
Mr. A. D. Hiller, E.A.
Veterans Administration,
Washington, D.C.
Jacob Van Gilder R10868
BA-J/MCS
Dear Sir:-
Thanks for your three letters of May 27th. They supplied valuable data. Jacob Van Gilder is said by descendants to have been born in the Netherlands and his wife Margaret Gibler or Kibler as it was 1st supplied to me was said to have been born in Germany. Do your records show anything about this or supply the names of their parents? Have you anything further on their other children? (ie Jacob Van Gelder's children). In your general letter same date and subject with William Van Gelder, S.C. 24028 BA-J MMHF/MLB added you say you have no records of the others mentioned in my letter of May 2d. As I am sure that some of these Van Gelder's and Van Gilder's were in the War of the Revolution I presume that the reason you do not have them is because no pension was requested or granted. I my presumption is correct cna[can] you tell me where I may find confirmation or otherwise of my data on their war record?
Yours very truly,
Arthur Pine Van Gelder
[His signature]
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1912, Mar 2 Hist. to 
Wm. C. Van Gilder
1925 Aug 28 Hist. to 
Mrs. C. O. May. MCS
1936, May 27 Hist. to Mr.
Arthur Pine Van Gilder. MCS
1931, June 19. Mr. Arthur Pine
Van Gilder inf. no further
family data. MCS
[Crossed out]/Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1878/[crossed out]
REJECTED
10868
P.O.
Jacob Van Gilder
Service:
Enlisted: , 18  .
Discharged: , 18  .
Application filed: , 18  .
1852 [List?] gives fol. reason for rejection, "Did not serve six mos. (Papers withdrawn)"
Alleges:
Re-enlisted: 
Attorney:
P.O.
Recognized. Contract
Cert. of Dis.  Searched for, 18
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Jacob Van Gilder
Virginia
Rejected
no reasons given in this letter-many others on list. 
[illegible] Mar:35 Theo. P. Ray
Hon W. S. Morgan, all
21,1838 contains statement that later information would be furnished
information would
[crossed out]/F A Dickens, June 153/[crossed out]
10869
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No 16,899
a
[crossed out]/Jacob Van Gilder/[crossed out]
[illegible]
[crossed out]/[illegible] S. Barnes/[crossed out]
[crossed out]/Aug 26 1850/[crossed out]
10868
June 7, 1832.
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June 19, 1936
BA-J/MCS
Jacob Van Giler, R.10868
Mr. Arthur Pine Van Gelder
1415 Delaware Avenue
Wilmington, Delaware
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter of June 5, 1936, requesting further information relative to the family of Jacob Van Gilder, a Revolutionary War soldier who married Margaret Gibler.
In the papers of pension claim, R. 10868, based upon the military service of Jacob Van Gilder, the name of the birth place of this soldier and that of his wife do not appear nor are the names of his parents given and there is no further family data given other than that which was contained in the letter sent you May 27, 1936.
This office has no record of a Revolutionary War soldier unless a claim for pension or bounty land was made to the United States on account of the military service of that soldier.
As possible means of securing information relative to the military service of Revolutionary War soldiers, it is suggested that you address the Adjutant General, War Department, this city.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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May 27, 1936
Jacob Van Gilder, R.10868
BA-J/MCS
Mr. Arthur Pine Van Gelder
1415 Delaware Avenue
Wilmington, Delaware
Dear Sir:
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, R. 10868, based upon the Revolutionary War service of Jacob Van Gilder.
He married about 1786 in Hagerstown Maryland, or near there, Margaret Gibler. He moved from Maryland to Monongalia County, Virginia, in 1799. He died in July 1846, aged ninety-four years, and his widow, Margaret, died September 14, 1849, aged ninety-five years.
On January 28, 1850, William Van Gilder, son of the soldier, aged forty-nine years and a resident of Monongalia County, Virginia, applied for pension that may have been due on account of the Revolutionary War service of his father and alleged that Jacob Van Gilder enlisted in the Pennsylvania line in Captain Burd's company in Colonel Butler's regiment and served five years. The claim was not allowed as proof of the alleged service was not furnished in accordance with the requirement of the pension law.
In 1850 it was stated that "one of the daughters now Mrs. Mary May is full sixty-four years of age". She was a daughter of the soldier, Jacob Van Gilder.
The papers in this claim contain no further data relative to the soldier's family.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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[Initials in upper right corner] M.C.A.
Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
August 28, 1925
Miss C. O. May
Invalid Division, Room 304
Bureau of Pensions, Wash., D.C.
Madam:
I have to advise you that in the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, R. 10868, it is alleged that JACOB VAN GILDER served in Captain Burd's Company, Colonel Butler's Pennsylvania Regiment.
He married in Hagerstown, Maryland, 1786, Margaret Gibler. He moved from Maryland to Monongalia County, Virgina, in 1799. He died in July, 1846, aged ninety-four years, and his widow died September 14, 1849, aged ninety-five years.
On January 28, 1850, William Van Gilder, a son of the soldier, aged forty-nine years and a resident of Monongalia County, Virginia, applied for pension on account of the services of his father but the claim was not allowed as he failed to furnish proof of six months service as required by the pension law.
In 1850 reference was made to Mrs. Mary May, a daughter of the soldier.
There is no further data on file relative to family.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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RECORD DIVISION. 3 -- 525.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C., 190_
sion on file in this Bureau.
DATES OF
received
In reply to your request of [blank space], received [blank space] for a statement of the military history of Jacob Van Gilder a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his [crossed out/(or his widow's)/[crossed out] son's application for pension on file in this Bureau. R. 10,868
P. 10.868.
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.
Captain. Colonel.
[crossed out]/5 yrs./[crossed out]. Burd. Butler. Pa.
The claim was rejected on the ground of insufficient proof of his service, as required by the act of June 7, 1832, under which he applied.
Battles engaged in,
Residence of soldier at enlistment,
Date of application for pension, by son William, Jan. 28, 1850.
Residence at date of application, of son, Monongalia Co. Va.
Age at date of application, of son, 49.
Remarks: Soldier moved from Maryland to Monongalia Co. Va in 1799. He mar. in Hagerstown about 1786 Margaret Gibler. He
died in July, 1846 ac. 94 yrs. and his wid. Sept. 14, 1849 at 95 yrs
A dau. Mrs. Mary May is referred to.
Very respectfully,
156563m10-08
5 yrs omitted as there was no proof. aw
Commissioner.
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Jacob Van Gilder R10868
Send history to
Mrs. C.O. May
Inv. Div. Rev. 304
Bureau of Pensions
D C
MCS
8/25/25
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WM. C. VAN GILDER
Wholesale Lands
We are Wholesalers of Large Tracts, Ranches, Farms, Timber and Coal
(Exchanges a Specialty)
SUITE 301-302, 115 DEARBORN ST.
TELEPHONE CENTRAL 5198
CHICAGO
February 22, 1912.
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir: --
I write you to know, if there is any record in the
Pension Department of Jacob Van Gilder, R. 10,868 who was a Revolutionary soldier, from Monongalia County, West Virginia.
I have been told that he served under a Colonel Byrd, or Bird. He is my direct ancestor, being the Father of my Grand-father, so he would be my Great grand-father.
There is an inscription on his tombstone at Mount Zion, in Marion County, W. Virginia, that he was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. Marion used to be a part of Monongalia
County.
I would like to know when he enlisted, where he enlisted, how long he served, and where he was when he was discharged. If there is any record of this in the Pension Department, I should be very, very glad to get it.
Very truly yours,
CV-LD.
Wm C. Van Gilder
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F.A. Dickins
June1/53
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9
Pension Office
June 1 1833
Sir
There are no papers on file of Jacob Van Gilder of Va. I presume they were returned to him or his attorney.
FA Dickens Esq
Present
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H.R. Apr. 13, 1838.
Col Edward,
Sir,
Will you have the kindness to enclose me the papers of Jacob Van Gilder of Monongalia Co Va or if that will not be consistent with your rules, please have them copied.
I have the honor to be
Sir, yours with much
respect,
W.T. Morgan
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Pension Office.
Aug 26, 1850
Sir,
I have examined and filed the application for pension right of Jacob Van Gilder, do under the act of June 7, 1832, and of Margaretta Van Gilder do under the act of July 7, 1838. The fact
that the parties in right of whom these claims are set up did not [illegible] during their lives
that the previous [illegible] of the pension laws now so generally [illegible] throughout the county, is very strong presumption under that they are not said and they will not therefore be admitted less they are established in the most
satisfactory name. The service must be 
established by the certificate of the Secretary  of State of Pennsylvania in whose office at [illegible] evidence of it should be found and
the identity of Jacob Van Gilder with that service by the testimony of [comrades?] who  served with him. The
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date of the marriage of Margaretta Van Gilder should be established by a certified copy of the marriage [illegible] or [license?], [illegible crossed out word] or if said evidence cannot be produced, by the [illegible] of the original Family Register.
Seymour Barnes 
[illegible]
Seymour Barnes, Esq.
Washington,
D.C.
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Feb. 5th 1853
[crossed out]/Jan 5/53
[illegible] to case of
Jacob Van Gilder
Va. Act 7 June 1832
Requesting a
re-examination
with the rolls.
Cole
F A Dickins
Atty
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Washington Feb. 4. 1853
Sir,
In the case of Jacob Van Gilder a rejected application for a pension under the act 7th June 1832 from Virginia it will be found that he claims to have belonged at one time to Col. Butler's Regt. from Pen. As there are records
of the Pena. Troops in the pension office I
respectfully request that the claim may be re-examined and those records refered to.-
Respectfully
Francis A. Dickins
To the Commissioner of Pensions
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Washington Febry. 9 1850
Hon
Sir
Enclosed are the vouchers on Which William Van Gilder claims a pension for the service of his father Jacob Van Gilder in the Pennsylvania
Line under Col Butler in the War of 1776
Very Respectfully
Yr Obt Servt
Seymour Barnes
Hon. J L Edwards Esqr
Commissioner of Pensions