Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 23692, Michael Helsinger, New York
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SERVICE New York
Helsinger, Michael
or Hillsinger
NUMBER S23692

CONTENTS
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24385 New York
Michael Helsinger of Otsego Co in the State of NY who was a Private in the Compy commanded by Captain Dubois of the Regt commanded by Col Willen in the N York line for 21 months

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 70 Dollars per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 7 day of Dec 1833 and sent. hon S. Page House Reps..

Arrears to the 4th of Sept 33 - $175.
Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Mar '34 - $35
$210

Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by Tho Cromwell Clerk,
Book E Vol. 4 Page 104
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State of New York
Otsego County } ss:

On this 15th day of October 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Otsego now sitting Michael Helsinger of the Town of Oneonta in the County of Otsego and State of New York aged seventy three years of age on the ninth day of January last, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.  That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated.  That he resides in the town of Schoharie in the County of Schoharie in the State of New York and enlisted into a company of Continental troops at that place in the year 1781 in the month of April.  Commanded by Capt. Benjamin Dubois, in Col. Willet's Regiment for the period of nine months and was stationed at the Fort at Middleburg in said county of Schoharie, and after a fort at Vrooman's Land in the same county, and continued in the service stationed at the above places in said company and Regiment until he served out the full period of his enlistment of nine months and was then discharged and he further states that one of the Lieutenants belonging to said company was Lowe.  The principle part of Col Willet's Regiment was stated at Fort Plain on the Mohawk River at the time above stated.  And he further states that the next service after he was discharged from the nine months service above stated, he was called into the service in a company of Militia Commanded by Capt. Schoolcraft of the Town of Schoharie aforesaid and also in a company of Militia commanded by Capt. Snyder of the same place, both of which said companies belonged to a Regiment of Militia thus commanded by Col Peter Vrooman of Schoharie
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and Lieutenant Col Leelye. That he went into the service as a volunteer under each of the above named Captains, and the period of time that the service in both of said companies was  at least two months in Col Vrooman's Regiment, and was stationed at the lower fort then called, being the stone building
which was erected for a meeting House, and which is now occupied as such, being about one mile East of the Court House in said County of Schoharie.  And he further saith, that in the winter of the last year of the war, he again went into the service as a substitute
for his brother John Helsinger in a Company of Continental Troops commanded by Capt Pierce or Tears and Lieutenant John Thornton in Col. Willett's Regiment, and Joined said Regiment at Fort Plain in the County of Montgomery in the State of New York.  At the time
he entered the service at this time as such substitute for his said Brother, it was by the consent of Capt Pierce and Col Willett - that he continued in the service in said company and Regiment until the close of the war and until the army was discharged, which according to his present recollection was at least Ten Months, and was discharged by his officers at
Schenectady in the County of Schenectady in the State of New York - And he further states that during his first nine months service he was three times engaged in skirmishes with the Indians which was all the fighting which he was engaged in while in the service.
And he further states that he was born in Cobleskill in the County of Schoharie in the State of New York in the year 1759. That he has a Record of his age in his possession, that he lived at Schoharie aforesaid at each and every time he was called into the service as above stated  -- that he continued to reside in the County of Schoharie until about
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twenty eight years since when he moved into the Town of Milford in the County of Otsego, and into that part of said Town which in the division thereof is called Oneonta, where he now resides.  That the manner of being called into the service and the names of the officers with whom he served is as above set forth, and also that he never received any written discharge from the service, and also that he is well known to Timothy Sabin, Theodatus Edson, & Ray Guile of his present neighborhood who can testify to his character
for veracity and their belief of his services as a
soldier of the Revolution - That he has no
documentary evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service except Ray Guile
whose deposition is hereunto annexed, and
he further states that he has heretofore been inscribed on the Pension List Roll of the agency of the State of New York as a private soldier, as appears by his certificate which is hereunto annexed, and that he is the same identical Michael Hilsinger named in said certificate, that he has drawn one years' pay under the said Pension Certificate and his name was then stricken from said Roll, and he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the Agency of any State.
[signed] Michael Hilsinger (X) his mark

Sworn to and subscribed
the day & year aforesaid
Horace Lathrop, Clerk
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We hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Michael Hilsinger who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be Seventy three years of age. That he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion. And that he sustains a fair character for truth & veracity.
[signed] Theodatus Edson
[signed] Timothy Sabin

Sworn to and subscribed
the day & year aforesaid
Horace Lathrop Clerk
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And the said Court hereby declare
their opinion after an investigation of the
matter and putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that
Michal Hillsinger was a soldier of the Revolution and served therein as he states, and the Court further certify that it appears to them that Theodatus Edson & Timothy Sabin who have signed the preceding certificate are
credible persons & that their statement
is credible.
J.O. Morse
J. C. Warworth
E. Hoah                Judges
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Michael Helsinger
Pensioner

x
Certificate wanting

Helsinger, Michael
N.Y.   S 23692
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Michael Helsinger
Pensioner

certificate Wanting

Helsinger, Michael
N.Y.  S 23692
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WAR DEPARTMENT.
Revolutionary Claim
I CERTIFY, That in conformity with the Law of the UNITED STATES, of the 18th of March, 1818, Michael Helsinger, late a private in the
New York line of the revolutionary army
is inscribed on the Pension List, Roll of the New York Agency, at the rate of eight dollars -- cents per month, to commence on the eighth day of April one thousand eight hundred and eighteen.
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Helsinger, Michael
N.Y.  S23692

adm'd
21 mo. priv.
$71.66

S 23692

[very light handwriting; difficult to read]

old declaration alleges 3 years and [illegible] service as N.Y. [illegible] Regt.

new one alleges 9-1/2 mo.  same militia
[illegible] 10 mo. as substitute
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Adm'd
21 mo. priv.
$71.66

Helsinger, Michael
N.Y.  S23692
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If any communication should be
necessary in relation to this application
the department will please to address
them for convenience to Colliersville
Otsego County New York and to
the Care of Timothy Sabin
Yours &c.
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Helsinger, Michael
N.Y.  S23692
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State of New York
Otsego County  } ss:
On the 16th day of October 1832
personally appeared in open Court before
the Judges of the Court of Common pleas
in and for the County of Otsego now sitting, Ray Giles of the Town of Oneonta in the County of Otsego and State of New York aged 72 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath deposeth and say that he is well acquainted with Michael Hilsinger of the town of Oneonta in the County of Otsego County and State of New York and was during the Latter part of the Revolutionary war,
saw him while he was in Col Wittel's Regiments
a number of times, has heard his application
read and verily believes that it is just and true
that he is personally acquainted with the said
Michael Hilsinger now and that he lives in his
neighbourhood, that he, the said Michael Hilsinger, is reputed in his neighbourhood to have been a soldier of the revolution, that he is a man of truth and veracity and that 
[signed] Ray Giles
Sworn & subscribed in open Court
the 16th day of October 1832
Horace Lathrop, Clerk
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State of New York
Otsego County   } ss: 
I, Horace Lathrop,  Clerk of the Court
of Common Pleas of said County do certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in the matter of the application of Michael Hilsinger for a Pension.  In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & official seal this 19th day of Oct 1832
Horace Lathrop
By T.K. Cory, Deputy
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Michael Helsinger
further proof
added
Morse Stewart
Agent
Adm'd
8. April, 1818

alleges 3 years enlistment
& service in Willet's Regt. 82
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Michael Hilsinger
Mosses Stewart
Agents

Not on rolls
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The Hon. John C. Calhoun, Secretary at War
of the U. States

Otsego County } ss:
The Petition and Declaration of Michael
Hillsinger, a soldier of the revolutionary war, a
resident of the United States of the State N. York, County of Otsego & town of Milford, fifty two years of age on oath Setteth forth and declares, That he the said Michael enlisted in
Capt. Teree's Company of Light Infantry in
Col. Marinus Willet's Reg't of the N. York line
for the space of Three years in the month of March 1782, in the town Canajoharie in the State New York and served till after the close of the revolutionary war and was honorably discharged on the 6th January 1784 at
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Schenectady in the State of N. York which discharge is now lost and he can produce no further proof except the affidavit hereunto annexed,
And the said Michael further says he served against the common enemy, the said
Michael further says that he served the aforesaid time on the continental establishment, and has no pension from the
U. States. And further says that he has no property and is in reduced circumstances
and has need of support from his country.
And the said Michael prays to be put on the
pension list of the U. States-
[signed] Michael Helsinger (X) his mark
Sworn & subscribed this 8th day of April
1818 before me

Abijah H. Beach one of the Judges
of the Court of Com Pleas for
Otsego County & State of New York
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Otsego County } ss:
Seth Rowley,  a revolutionary solder being
sworn says that he knew Michael Hillsinger 
in the Company by him mentioned and was present at the time line of his, the said Michael's discharge on the 6th Jan. 1784
being in the same Regt, & further says that his statement as to his circumstances is correct, & further says not-
[signed] Seth Rowley

Sworn & Subscribed
this 8th day of April
1818. before me

Abijah H. Beach one of the Judges of
the Court of Com Pleas for
Otsego County & State of New York
of
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State of New York
Otsego County,       } ss.
BE IT REMEMBERED, That on the eighth day of April 1818 the above named Michael Helsinger came before me, Abijah H Beach one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas
of the County of Otsego and State of New York, and made oath that the facts stated
in the foregoing Petition and Declaration are true: - And I the said Judge, pursuant
to the directions of the Act of Congress, entitled "An act to provide for certain
persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States, during the
Revolutionary War," do certify to the Secretary of War, that it has appeared to my satisfaction that the said Michael Helsinger served in the
Revolutionary War against the common enemy, for the term mentioned in the said
Petition and Declaration hereunto annexed:--And in pursuance of the directions
of said Act, I do hereby certify to the Hon. the Secretary of War, that the testimony
of Seth Rowley as detailed in his affidavit
hereunto annexed, was taken before me, and that I am satisfied that the application
of the said Michael Rowley [sic] (should be "Michael Helsinger") is fair and bona fide in
all respects, and that he, by reason of his reduced circumstances, is absolutely in
need of assistance from his country for support.
Abijah F. Beach one of the
Judges of the Court of Com Pleas
for Otsego County & State of New York
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CLERK'S OFFICE,
Otsego County, } ss:
I, GEORGE MORELL, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Otsego, in the State of New-York, hereby Certify, that Abijah H Beach now is, and for one year past, has been, one of the Judges of the said Court;
and that the signature to the foregoing Certificate and papers, is his proper hand writing.
In testimony wherof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the Seal of the said Court, this
24th - day of April
1818.
J Morell Clk
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Additional Testimony

County of Schenectady
State of New York-
John Thornton late a Lieutenant in Col Willet's
Regiment of New York State troops, on the Continental establishment, in the revolutionary war, being duly sworn & saith that he was personally acquainted with Michael Helsinger, 
a soldier belonging to the same Regiment, & Company for more than two years in said Regiment & this deponent further
saith the said Michael Helsinger was
discharged after the close of the war & that he, this deponent, is a disinterested witness & further saith not.
[signed] John Thornton
Sworn on the 29th day of April 1818

James V S Ryley Judge of the Court
of Common Pleas County of Schenectady
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State of New York
Schenectady County }  ss 
I, Jellis A Fouda, Clerk of the court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Secutady
do certify that James V S  Ryley, is,
one of the Judges of the said Court of
Common Pleas, & that his signature
to the Jurata in the within foregoing
affidavit is of his own proper hand writing.  In testimony whereof, I have hereunto
subscribed my hand & affixed the
seal of the said Court of Common Pleas 
at the City of Schenectady,
the 29th day of August 1818-
Jellis A Fouda,
Clerk
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23692
Revolutionary
File No. 23692
INVALID.

Michael Helsinger
Pri Rev War
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Act: June 7" '32
Index: -- Vol. 2  Page 179
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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New York
Revo:
Michael Helsinger
Adm'd

Rejected
21 mo. Pr
see let to Clt. 28 May 33
Ashten S. Page
Act 7 June 1832
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Willet 23731
New York

Michael Helsinger, private,
New York line
In the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War
Inscribed on the Roll of New York
at the rate of eight Dollars per month, to commence on the 8th of April, 1818.
Certificate of Pension issued the 17 of Sept. 1818 and sent to the care of Abijah H.
Beach, Esq; Otego, New York
-
Arrears to 4th of Sept 1818 - $39.20
Semi-anl. all'ce ending 4 March 1819 $48 "
$87.20.
4 mo 27/30
{ Revolutionary claim,
Act 18th March, 1818.}
1 yr & 9 mos
Milford, Otsego Co.
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old declaration
Alleges 3 years enlistment
& service in Willett's Reg't.
Commencing in '82
New declaration
Enlisted for 9 mo. & served
9-1/2 mo. in Willett's Regt &
was discharged

alleges some short tours in
the Militia & then substituted
his brother in Willett's Regt
for 10 mo.
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6th Decr 1833-
I am personally acquainted with Michael
Hillsinger and know him to be a German
or Dutchman very Ignorant and speaking
broken English. I am also acquainted with the
Draftsman who made out his papers under the
act of 1818 and know him to be untruthful
& In my opinion entirely unfit to be engaged
in business of that nature. I further certify
That in my opinion the allegation of three
years service in said application as there set
forth was produced by the ignorance of Mr
Hillsinger and his want of capacity to fully understand the statements made by his draftsman - Mr Hillsinger is believed by me to be too respectable to have made a false allegation and I therefore conclude that the aggregate of the terms mentioned in his last declaration was the service intended to be set forth in the first without the detail which he has now given.
Sherman Page M.C
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Nov. 19
old case
New York
Hon. Lewis Cass
Secretary of War
Washington City
District of Columbia

Free

Colliers Ville
Nov. 12

old papers dropped
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Nov. 19
old case
New York
Hon. Lewis Cass
Secretary of War
Washington City
District of Columbia

Free

Colliers Ville
Nov. 12

old papers dropped