Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 10,756, John Turner, S.C.
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Service S.C. 
Turner, John
Number R.10.756

Born in N.C.
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15303
John Turner
S.C

return

Rejected, See {illegible}
9 Nov 18 {illegible}
Edw B. Wheeler
Marion CH
So Car

{?} Dudley {crossed out}
Marlbough {crossed out} CH
Marlboro {crossed out} DiL.
S.C
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Brief in the case of John Turner
of Marion District in the State of
(Act 7th June, 1832.)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court.
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 67.
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period.
In 17_____
Duration of Service.
Years, Months, Days.
1 mo. 10.
"He ought have done 2 years"
"Six month in addition"
Rank.
As a
private.
Names of General and Field Officers
under whom he served.
Gen. Marion
Capt Warley.

5. In what battles was he engaged? None.
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Marion Dist. S.C
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Witness
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? -
The Seal of ck is wanted on one sheet- -
X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
W. L. Williams Examining Clerk:
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Declaration
in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1833. __
South Carolina
Marion District
Court of Common Pleas
Fall 1m 1832. __

On this the 13th day of Octo 1832 personally appeared in open Court in the Court of Common {illegible} John Turner a Resident of the District of State aforesaid aged Sixty Seven years, who, being just duly sworn according to Law doth with his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th AD 1832. That he was born in Martin County No. Ca. on the Roanoke River about the year 1765. He has no record of his age & as to this point speaks from recollection entirely. He was living in Marion District (at that time called a part of Craven County) when he was drafted & marched under Capt Thomas Warley to Gen. Francis Marions Camp at a place called Blufort on the South Side of Santee River So Ca went on from there to Watboo - thence to Lunds Ferry on Santee River where Deponent with eleven others was Stationed as a Guard to prevent to Tories from joining the British then in Charleston. He was drafted for one month & when that time expired he returned to Marion. Two months afterward he rejoined Marion (Genl) at Watbook Bridge - after staying there a few days, Marion Sent seventeen of his men to John's Island near Charleston as a guard.
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to prevent the negroes & others as far as they could from trading with the British - Stayed there eighteen days & returned to Genl. Marion at Watboo where he remained his time out, He then came home to Marion District & being drafted again was marching down to Watboo. when the news reached his company that the British had left Charleston & the company was discharged & returned home - The balance of his service was spent in pursuing the Tories on Little Pee Dee & in Robeson County. He was drafted for this purpose & supposes that he must have served two years. _ The character of his service was this. The Tories were constantly making incursions on the country adjacent to them: particularly the Districts of Marlborough & of Marion. This rendered it necessary to keep as constant look out for them & to follow after them whenever they could be found. In this employment deponent was engaged irregulary sometimes a day at a time & the longest time ten days __The terms on which he was drafted & served with Marion were these. The company in which he was. was divided into 3 parts: one third of them were in Service from home for one month at a time & the other 2/3 remained at home to protect their houses from the incursions of the Tories So that, although he was but little more than two months abroad in Genl Marions Camp yet he was compelled to turn out when at home during the other four months making Six months of Service as above  - described in addition to the time Spent in excursions during the Two years above.
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mentioned. Since the Revolutionary War he has lived one year near Camden So. Ca. He now lives in Marion District So Ca. where he has lived altogether since the war except the one year above mentioned
He is known to Edward B. Wheeler, John Mace Archibald Kerby, Ezekiel Daniel, Isham Watson
Dennis Berry & many other gentlemen of respectability who can testify as to his charater for veracity & their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution __He hereby relinquishes all claim whatever to any pension or annuity except the present & declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the Agency of any State. John - his mark X - Turner
Sworn to & subscribed this day & year aforesaid ..
B J Earle presiding Judge of the Court of Common pleas sessions 
in open Court at Marion Courthouse
South Carolina __
Marion District
Archibald Kerby appeared & made oath that he knows John Turner to have been a soldier of the Revolutionary War. That they were fellow soldiers in Marion's Camp: That he believes the said Turner to have been a good Whig & that his statement is entitled to credit
Sworn to & Subscribed the day
& year aforesaid
Arch..Kerby
B J Earle
Presiding Judge
in open Court
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I Edward B. Wheeler & Barfield Moody residing in Marion District. So. Ca do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Turner who has Subscribed & Sworn to the above declaration. That we are also acquainted with Archibald Kerby who has signed the above certificate - that they - (Turner & Kerby) are respectable persons residing in the District & State aforesaid that they are reputed & believed in the neighborhood in which they reside to have been soldiers of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to & Subscribed
the day & year aforesaid
Edwd. Wheeler
B. Moody
B J Earle Presiding Judge of
the Court of Common pleas sessions in
open Court at Marion Court house
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigations of the matter & after putting the Interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the abovenamed applicant was a Revolutionary soldier & served  as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Edwd. B. Wheeler
Barfield Moody & Archibald Kerby are credible persons residing in the Dist of Marion & State of So. Ca & that their statement is entitled to credit
B J Earle
Presiding Judge
in open Court
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In reply to your request of___, received ___ for a statement of the military history of John Turner a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
R10756
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
1980 or 1781
LENGTH OF SERVICE.
2 mos
1 "
1 " 10 days
RANK
Priv
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN.
Thomas Warley
- Chambers
- Scott
Joseph Hudson
and served on various occasions till close of War
COLONEL.
---
STATE.
S.C.
Battles engaged in, none stated.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Marion Dist., then a part of Craven Co., S.C.
Date of application for pension, Oct. 13, 1832.
Residence at date of application, Marion Dist. S.C.
Age at date of application, Born 1765, Martin Co. N.C. on Roanoke River
Remarks: His claim was not allowed, soldier did not render 6 mos. actual service, as required by law, no family data.
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Declaration
of 
John Turner.___
15303
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South Carolina ___
Marion District

I. Edward. B. Wheeler Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the District of Marion & State aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the court in the matter of the application of John Turner for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this Octo 13th 1832

Edw. B Wheeler
C.C. Pls
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State of South Carolina
Marion District
Personally appeared in open court
John Turner who on oath makes the following affidavit as an amendment to his declaration for a pension viz. that in the year 1780 or 1781 - he cannot positively say which, he was drafted & served as a private one month under Genl Francis Marion & a Capt Chambers at Watboo & Lenuds Ferry on Santee River in the state aforesaid - in the manner more particularly mentioned in his first declaration. That two months afterwards & under the same draft by Genl Marion which required an alternate service of the soldiers & this deponent again joined Marions forcers at Watboo & served under Capt. Scott at Watboo & Johns Island one month & ten days & then returned home. That after he return home he was drafted & held in readiness to pursue & subdue the tories for two years & so served frequently & upon various occasions under one Captain Joseph Hudson states in his first declaration & that he served in that way until the end of the war, & that he actually served in all from the year 1780 to the close of the war eighteen months.
Sworn to in open Court the 18 day of Oct AD 1833-
Edw B. Wheeler
CC Pls
John X his mark Turner
South Carolina
Marion District
We Benjamin H Holt a clergyman {illegible} in the District & state aforesaid, & Edward B Wheeler a citizen resident in the same state & District do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Turner who has sworn to & subscribed the above declaration & amendment for a pension & that he is reputed & believed to have been (in his neighborhood) a soldier of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion . & that he is a credible person & believe his statement above & we also certify that we are acquainted with Archibald Kerby who has sworn to & subscribed the above affidavit to the service of the said John Turner & that he was at the time of making said affidavit & is at this time a credible person & that his affidavit is entitled to credit- sworn to & subscribed
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this 18 day of Oct A D 1833 in open court.
Benj Holt
Edw. B. Wheeler
C. C. Pls.

and the said court do hereby declare their opinion after an investigation of the matter that the above named John Turner was a revolutionary soldier & served as he states & the court further certifies that it appears to them that the above named Benjamin Holt is a clergyman resident in the District & State aforesaid & that Col Edward B Wheeler & Archibald Kerby are respectable & credible persons residing in the same State & District & that their statement is entitled to credit.
Richard Gautt
South Carolina
Marion District
I Edward B Wheeler Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas & Sessions for the District & State aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing matter of amendment contains the original proceedings of the Court in the matter of the application for a pension by Jonn Turner.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 18 day of October 
A D 1833
Edw B Wheeler
C. C. Pls.
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John Turner
10756
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Turner ___which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period of periods of the was when he served? No
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? No
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Two citizens
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? Witness {illegible}
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No.
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
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EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. H. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For ___year ___months, and ___days, I served as a  ______  For  ___months and  ___ days, I served as a ____; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &e. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper office, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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John Turner
So Car
Rejected, see let
 {illegible} chr: 18th to
Edward B. Wheeler
Marion
{illegible}
Aug 23rd 1833 So Car
{illegible} of June 1832
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Record Division.
C. W. AND N. DIVISION (crossed out)

Department of the Interior,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,

Jany. 9, 1908
Searched by S. D. Lamparter

Original No. ...........................
Certificate No. .......................
Claimant, .................................
Soldier, .....................................
Service, Va. or N. C.
Rev. War

Remarks: No claim as above 
except Rej. #10756

27498b4m2-07
Chief of Division
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DR. P. C. CAMPBELL
PHYSICIAN AND SURGEON
PORT RICHMOND, CAL. Dec. 28-1907

Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington D.C.
Sir - Will you kindly send to me the Military History of John Turner, who served in the Revolutionary War and enlisted I think from Virginia. Possibly N.C. his wifes name was Lucy. I would also like a list of their children.
Also I would like to have the same information of Matthew Jackson, from VA. or NC. (as they lived near the border line). Matthew Jacksons wifes name was Elizabeth.
This family history is asked to help us trace my ancestry that I may be able to
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join the society of the Sons of the American Revolution and any information you can give me will I assure you be gratefully received.
Yours truly
P.C. Campbell

U.S. PENSION OFFICE 
A
JAN 4 1908

RECORD DIVISION
JAN 6 1908
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Jan. 13, '08 Hist. to Dr. P. C. Campbell
Acts of July 14, 1882, and March 3, 1878. (crossed out)

10756
P.O. John Turner
Service: _________

Enlisted: REJECTED _____, 18.
Discharged: _____________, 18.

Application filed: _______, 18.

Alleges: _________________
Re-enlisted: _____________

Attorney: ________________
P.O. _____________________
___Recognized. _____ Contract.
___Cert. of Dis. Searched for ____, 18.