Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 4584, for John Lucas, Pennsylvania
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Penn.              Lucas, John           S. 4385
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1248.
Ohio
John Lucas
of Butler in the State of Ohio who was a private in the compy: commanded by Captain Harding of the Regl commanded by Gurl: McIntosh in the Pennsylvania line for 10 months from 1778
Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio at the rate of 33 - Dollars 33 Cents per ann: to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 day of October 1832 and ____ to John Reily. Hamilton. O.
Arrears to 4th of Sept 1802
Semi=anl. allowance ending 4 March 1833
49.99 
16.67
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$66.66
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Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by A. Rice ---- Clerk,
Book D Vol. 10 Page 39.
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The State of Ohio Court of Common Pleas
of the term of July A.D. 1832
On this thirtieth day of June
in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and thirty
two personally appeared before the Honorable the Judges
of the Court of Common pleas in and for the County
of Butler and State of Ohio. John Lucas
aged seventy one years on the 7th day of September
last of resident of the County of Butler
in the State of Ohio who being first duly sworn
according to law doth on his oath make the
following declaration in order to obtain the benefit
of the act of Congress passed June the 7th A.D. 1832
that he enlisted in the State Troops of Pennsylvania
in the year 1776 or 1777 under
Capt. Jesse Pigman in the County of Fayette
of State of Pennsylvania - he served the whole
time for which he enlisted and was employed
principally in guarding the frontier settlements
at the end of his term of enlistment he received
an honorable discharge in writing signed by
Capt. Jesse Pigman which has long since
been lost. He was afterwards drafted
as a malitia man to serve in the campaign
against the Indians under General McIntosh
to the rendezvous of the company was
held at the Mingo bottom on the Ohio below
Pittsburgh on the 1st September 1778 &
he got home on the 24th of December
of the same year -The next campaign in which he served was under
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General Crawford in his expedition against the
Indians and the company in which he 
volunteered held its rendezvous on the 17th
of May and after the battle in which
Crawford was defeated he made his way
home in the best manner he could. He
served during this campaign in the company
commanded by Capt. Hardin. The 
company found their own horses & provisions
the whole time that he was out in actual
service in the three campaigns above that
and was between ten and twelve
months. He was in many other
scouting parties and tours of service
at which he was absent more than
a month each time being engaged in
pursuit of the Indians & in guarding
the frontier settlements which were
often annoyed by the Indians -
but he cannot state with pre
cision any of the campaigns in
which he served except the
above. Deponent can prove
his services in McIntosh's cam
paign by Elijah Mills and he
can prove his services in the
campaign under Crawford by
Francis Dunlevy and Henry
Taylor. He hereby relinquishes every
claim whatever to a pension or annu
ity except the present and declares that his
name is not on the pension Roll of the
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agency of any state - deponent
was now in Frederick County in the
State of Maryland in the year
1760 on the 7th day of September
as appears by a written record of his
age now in his possession he has
resided thirty four years in the
State of Ohio and
in the same
neighborhood in which he now
resides. He removed from
sylvania to Kentucky where he
resided twelve years previous
to this
to his removal
-
Sworn to & subscribed
open court the
John Leas
1
to
day & year aforesaid
John Reily Clerk
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agency of any state - deponent
was now in Frederick County in the
State of Maryland in the year
1760 on the 7th day of September
as appears by a written record of his
age now in his possession he has
resided thirty four years in the
State of Ohio and in the same
neighborhood in which he now
resides. He removed from Penn
sylvania to Kentucky where he
resided twelve years previous
to his removal to Ohio.

Sworn to & subscribed
open court this
day & year aforesaid
John Reily Clerk

John Lucas
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in said campaigns but not in the same
company in which he said Lucas served
and we are satisfied and believe that
he also was in McIntosh's cam
paign as he has stated in his said
declaration from circumstances &
facts within our own knowledge
his are welll acquainted with his
character in his neighborhood for
truth & veracity and believe
his statement is entitled to full
credit & confidence & that he
has always been reputed to have
been a soldier of the Revolution
Sworn to subscribed
in open Court
30th July 1872.
Francis Dunlavy
John Reily Clerk
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation
of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the
war department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. and the court further certifies
that it appears to them that Elijah Mills who has signed the preceding
Certificate is a resident of the County of Butler, and that Francis Dunlevy
who hath also signed the same is a resident of the County of Warren, and
are credible persons; and that their statements are entitled to credit.
John Reily Clerk of the Court of Common pleas of the County of Butler
aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings
of the said court in the matter of the application of John Lucas for a
pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand
and seal of Office at Hamilton this fourth day of
August One thousand eight hundred and thirty
two.
John Reily
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John Lucas
Ohio
No 2347.
from 1778 private
ten months.
$33.33
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Brief in the case of John Lucas
of Butler County in the State of Ohio

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?

3. How old is he? 71 Years

Enlisted In 1776 or 77 | time of ----- not given | Gen. McIntosh, Capt Jesse Pigman, Capt Harding

Sept 1 1778 |  3-24

---- 1779 | "Served altogether" between 10&12 monthly"

5. In what battles was he engaged? Crawfords defeat 

6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Fayette County Pennsylvania

7. In his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? one living witness in pact and Traditionaly

8. Are the paper defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?
defective in to time & period of -----

Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned. 

----itte Examining Clerk
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November 8, 1933
X
John Lucas -S. 4584
BA-J/AFF

Mrs. H. Margaret Hansen
530 Vine Street
Elizabeth, New Jersey.

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which
you request the Revolutionary War record of John Lucas, pension claim, S. 4584, and information in regard to Sergeant James Lee, War of the Revo-lution.

In order to identify the record of the James
Lee, in whom you are interested, as much as possible of the following data relative to him, are essential approximate dates of birth and death and places of residence at enlistment and after service. A record of a soldier of the Revolution can not be furnished by this office, unless a claim for pension or bounty
land has been made to the United States, based upon his service in that war.

The data given below were obtained from the
papers on file in pension claim, S. 4584, based
upon the Revolutionary War service of John Lucas.

He was born, September 7, 1760 in Frederick
County, Maryland; names of parents not stated.

John Lucas enlisted in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, in 1776 or 1777 and served on the frontier in Captain Jesse Pigman's Pennsylvania company. He served from September 1, 1778 to December 24, 1778
in Captain Cross' company in General McIntosh's Indian Expedition. He enlisted May 17, (year not given)
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and served in Captain Hardin's company, was in General Crawford's Indian Expedition and in the battle when Cranford was defeated. He was also out at various other times and served about ten or twelve months in all.

The soldier, John Lucas, was allowed pension on his application executed June 30, 1832, then a resident of Butler County, Ohio. He moved after the Revolution from Pennsylvania to Kentucky, where he lived about twelve
years, and had been living in the state of Ohio about thirty-four years, when he applied for pension.

There are no data in this claim relative to the
family of John Lucas.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of
pension, the name and address to whom sent, and possibly the date of death of the pensioner, you should apply to The Comptroller General, General Accounting
Office, Records Division, Washington, D. C., citing all of the following data-

John Lucas
Certificate No. 1248
Issued October 30, 1832
Rate $33.33 per annum
To commence March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Ohio Agency.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator
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2367

John Lucas
A Revolutionary Soldier

20
PO
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of
which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason
assigned for his not doing so?

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? No

V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?
No (Scratched Out) Yes

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?
yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?
yes

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?
yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
Yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
No Clergyman

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtain
No

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
One Living Witness


XIV. If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility?
yes

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
yes

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Dapartment anwsered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
yes


EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection
he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For
months, and days, I served as a
For ____ months and _____ for such service I claim a pension."
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3
It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.

QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the affidavits must be properly authenticated, as above directed.

QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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[Handwritten]
Rev War  
4584

[Printed]
INVALID.
File no.
[Handwritten]
4584
John Lucas
Privt. Rev War

[Printed]
Act:
[Handwritten]
June 7, 1832

[Printed]
Index:    Vol.  [Handwritten] A, [Printed] Page [Handwritten] 230

[Printed]
[Arrangement of 1870.]

[Handwritten to the left]
1927 May 28.  Hist to John C. Winemiller + his letter referred to Record Div. for Civil War inquiry. and 

1927 - June 21 - John C. Winemiller advised how to get date of last pay - etc and

1928 - May 29, Hist to Mrs. O A Shepard 

1931- June 20 - "   "     M. E. E. 
John C. Winemiller and

1933 - Nov. 8. - Hist to Mrs. H. Margaret Hanson.
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[Handwritten]
Rev.
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[Stamped]
U.S. PENSION OFFICE R JUN 20 1927

[Typed]
Mr. Winfield Scott,
Commissioner of Pensions,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

II96 Fairview Ave.,  Columbus, Ohio, June I8, I927.

Dear Sir:-
I am enclosing a copy of your reply to a letter of mine and thus save time. I wish to make a few further inquiries, that is, if it is allowable:

WHEN AND WHERE DID THIS JOHN LUCAS DIE OR WHEN WAS THE PENSION DISCONTINUED AND WHERE WAS HE LOCATED AT THAT TIME?

The other questions refer to Israel Lucas, a son of this John Lucas. I have not as yet received any word relative to this Civil War Soldier. To save time again I will reproduce that part of my letter to you referring to him:

"The records of your office or your department ought to show that Israel Lucas, a son of this said John Lucas, died in the Union Army, May 4th, 1862 at Fort Donaldson, Tenn. in the village of Dover, and buried in the village cemetry [sic] or in the National Cemetry [sic] at
Chattanooga, Tenn. He was a member of the 71st Reg't., O. V. I. Company G. He was born Aug. 12th, 1804 which shows he enlisted at the age of nearly 60 years. His wife, Catherine (Catrow) Lucas of Wapakoneta, drew a pension until her death which occured [sic] on July 26, 1890, aged over 81½ years"

NOW, I WISH TO KNOW THE PENSION NUMBER OF THIS ISRAEL LUCAS, I ALSO WISH TO KNOW, ESPECIALLY, WHERE HE WAS BORN!

Is the Pension Department equipped to handle inquiries like these? You see, I want
to make sure I am not imposing on you.

Yours respectfully,
[Signed] John C. Winemiller
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In reply refer to Rev. & 1812 Section.
3-1865
United States
Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington   May 27 1927.

John C. Winemiller
1196 Fairview Ave.,
Columbus, Ohio.
Sir:
In response to that part of your letter of the twenty fourth instant, relative to the War of the Revolution, I have to advise you, that from the papers in the pension claim S. 4584, it appears that John Lucas was born in Frederick Co. Maryland, September 7, 1760.

He enlisted in Fayette Co. Pennsylvannia, in 1776, or 1777 and served on the frontier in Captain Jesse Pigman's Pennsylvannia Company. He served from September 1, 1778, to December 24,1778, in Captain Cress's Company, in General McIntosh's Indian Expedition. He enlisted in May 1782 in Captain Hardin's Company was in General Crawford's Indian Expedition and in the battle when Crawford was defeated. He was also out at various other times, no details given and served about ten or twelve months in all, as a private.
He was allowed pension on his application executed June 30, 1832, while living in Butler County, Ohio. The names of his parents are not on record and there is no information on file as to his family.
It does not appear that bounty land was allowed by the United States on account of the service of John Lucas.
Herewith are returned the copies of your letter to the adjutant General, U.S.A. and of his letter to you.
Your inquiry relative to the Civil War Soldier is referred to the proper authority for a reply.
Respectfully,

Winfield Scott,
Commissioner.
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(M.E.E.)
Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.

Roachdale, Indiana.
June 4, 1928.

Mr. Winfield Scott,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:
 In your recent communication concerning the Revolutionary War pension claim (Claim S. 4584) of John Lucas of Butler Co. Ohio an error was made in copying date of birth as Sept. 7, 1780.

I hesitate to trouble you again so soon but it is very essential I have that particular date and I will appreciate it very much if you will look up the record again and send me the correction.

Also will you kindly designate where and give page on which this claim is recorded so as to satisfy anyone desiring reference.

I thank you very much for your kindness.
Very truly yours,
Mrs. O.A. Shepard.
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Roachdale, Indiana.
August,23, 1927.

Pension Department,
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs:

Will you kindly tell me if there is a John Lucas on the pension roll from Ohio. I believe he enlisted from Va. later moved to Ky. (Bourbon Co.) then to Butler County, Ohio. If there is a record would you please copy it in full for me? He was born 1761, I believe.
Thanking you kindly, I am,
Very truly,
Mrs. O.A. Shepard

Fonance Division
AUG 26 1927
? ? Pensions

Pension U.S. office
AUG 25 1927
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148 E. Dunedin Road,
Columbus, Ohio.
December 31, 1931.

Honorable Commissioner of Pensions,
Department of the Interior,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

Honorable Sir:-
Reference:-
Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.

John Lucas, pension claim S. 4584, was in the Revolution and was born Sept 7, 1760, in Frederick County, Maryland, and died on June 15,  1836, in Butler County, Ohio. The number of his pension certificate was 1248 or 1245 and was issued on October 30, 1832.

This soldier was married to Rachel Lucas at the time of his death. Can you tell us whether his wife, Rachel, was given a pension as a widow of this John Lucas? If so let us have what details there are in the pension and any information of her and him.

Your respectfully,
John C. Winemiller
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[Stamped]
RECEIVED OCT 23 1933 MAIL SUB-DIV. VETS. ADM. READER 66
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October 20th, 1933.
530 Vine Street,
Elizabeth, N.J.

Pension Department,
Washington,
D.C.

Dear Sirs:-
 Will you kindly send me a copy of the pension record of Sergeant James Lee who served in the American Revolution. Also, John Lucas, Pension Claim S-4584.

Very truly yours, 
H. Margaret Hansen
Mrs. H. Margaret Hansen.
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January 20, 1931

Mr. John C. Winemiller
148 E. Dunedin Road
Columbus, Ohio

Rev. & 1812 Wars Section
AWF:MLB

Dear Sir:
 You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 4594, that John Lucas was born in Frederick County, Maryland, September 7, 1760.

He enlisted in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, in 1776 or 1777 and served on the frontier in Captain Jesse Pigman's Pennsylvania company. He served from September 1, 1778 to December 24, 1778 in Captain Cross' company, in General McIntosh's Indian expedition. He enlisted in May, 1782 in Captain Hardin's company, was in General Crawford's Indian expedition and in the battle when Crawford was defeated. He was also out at various other times, no details given, and served about ten or twelve months in all, as a private.

He was allowed pension on his application executed June 30, 1832, while living in Butler County, Ohio.

There are no data regarding his family. 

The above history is that of the only John Lucas of Butler County, Ohio, found in the records of this bureau. 

In order to obtain the date of last payment of his pension, the name and address of the person paid, and possibly the date of soldiers death, you should address the Comptroller general, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D.C., citing all of the following data:- John Lucas, Certificate No. 1248, issued October 30, 1832, rate $33.33 per annum. commenced March 4, 1831, Act June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.

Very truly yours
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[Handwritten]
M.E.E.
corrected history furnished
June 6, 1928

[Typed]
[Illegible] Section.

June 6, 1928.

Mrs. O. A. Shepard,
Roachdale,
Indiana.

Madam:

I advise you that you are herewith furnished correct history of Revolutionary War soldier John Lucas (S. 4584) and are requested to destroy the one furnished you on May
29, 1928 which contained erroneous date of birth.

From the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 4584, it appears that John Lucas was born in Frederick County, Maryland, September 7, 1760.

He enlisted in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, in 1776 or 1777 and served on the frontier in Captain Jesse Pigman's Pennsylvania Company. He served from September 1, 1778 to
December 24, 1778 in Captain Cross' Company in General McIntosh's Indian Expedition. He enlisted in May 1782 in Captain Hardin's Company, was in General Crawford's Indian Expedition and in the battle when Crawford was defeated. He was also out at various other times, no details given, and served about ten or twelve months in all, as a private.

He was allowed pension on his application executed
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[All Typed]
June 30, 1832 while living in Butler County, Ohio.

There are no data on file [crossed out] regarding his family.

The above history is that of the only John Lucas of Butler County, Ohio, found in the records of this bureau.

The information herewith furnished was obtained from papers on file in soldier's application for pension and the reference is as stated above, S. 4584.

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT,
Commissioner.

COPIED BY ADY
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[Handwritten]
M.E.E.

[Typed]
[illegible]12   [illegible]on

May 29, 1928

Mrs. O. A. Shepard
Roachdale
Indiana.

Madam:
I advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 4584, it appears that John Lucas was born in
Frederick County, Maryland, September 7, 1780. [Underlined] 

[Handwritten]
? 1760

[Typed]
He enlisted in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, in 1776 or 1777 and served on the frontier in Captain Jesse Pigman's Pennsylvania
Company. He served from September 1, 1778, to December 24, 1778, in Captain Cross' Company, in General McIntosh's Indian Expedition. He enlisted in May 1782 in Captain Hardin's Company, was in General
Crawford's Indian Expedition and in the battle when Crawford was defeated. He was also out at various other times, no details given, and served about ten or twelve months in all, as a private.

He was allowed pension on his application executed June 30, 1832,
while living in Butler County, Ohio.

There are no data on file regarding his family.

The above history is that of the only John Lucas of Butler County, Ohio, found in the records of this Bureau.

Respectfully,

WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.
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[Handwritten]
[illegible]

[Typed]
Rev. and 1812
Wars Section.

June 21, 1927

John C. Winemiller
1196 Fairview Ave
Columbus, Ohio

Sir:
I have to advise you that in order to obtain
the date of last payment of pension, the name of person paid, and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Lucas, S. 4584, you should apply to the Records Division, General Accounting Office, Washington, D. C., citing all
of the following data-

John Lucas, Certificate No. 1248, issued
October 30, 1832, rate $33.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.

Respectfully
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.
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[Typed]
Rev. & 1812 Wars
Section.

May 27, 1927.

John C. Winemiller,
1196 Fairview Ave.
Columbus, Ohio.

Sir:
In response to that part of your letter of the twenty-fourth instant, relative to the War of the Revolution, I have to advise you, that from the papers in the pension claim, S. 4584, it appears that John Lucas was born in Frederick Co.
Maryland, September 7, 1760.

He enlisted in Fayette Co. Pennsylvania, in 1776, or 1777 and served on the frontier in Captain Jesse Pigman's Pennsylvania Company. He served from September 1, 1778, to
December 24, 1778, in Captain Cross's ['s crossed out] Company, in General
McIntosh's Indian Expedition. He enlisted in May 1782 in Captain Hardin's Company, was in General Crawford's Indian Expedition and in the battle when Crawford was defeated. He
was also out at various other times, no details given and served about ten or twelve months in all, as a private.

He was allowed pension on his application executed June 30, 1832, while living in Butler County, Ohio. The names of his parents are not on record and there is no [underlined] information on file as to his family.
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It does not appear that bounty land was allowed by the United States on account of the services of John Lucas.

Herewith are returned the copies of your letter to
the Adjutant General, U. S. A. and of his letter to you.

Your inquiry relative to the Civil War soldier is referred to the proper authority for a reply.

Respectfully,

WINFIELD SCOTT,
Commissioner.