Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 5711, for John Jones, Pennsylvania
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Penn
Jones, John
R.5711
Contents
J. Jones 15,1747 at Philadelphia PA
enlist Lancaster Reg PA
reside 1834 Phila PA
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State of Pennsylvania
County of Philadelphia
On this Eighteenth Day of January Eighteen Hundred and fifty one before me Samuel Taylor one of the aldermen in and for the said family personally appeared Henry Lechler Jr and made oath in due form of law that he was well acquainted with John Jones late of Philadelphia deceased. That he died on the eleventh day of December Eighteen Hundred and thirty five. that his widow deceased on the twenty sec and of the same month and year. That Mary Ann Sechlers, Abigail R. Booth and Deborah Shrigley are the only children of said John Jones now surviving him. That he made appreciation for a pension about the year Eighteen Hundred and thirty four or Eighteen Hundred and thirty five for his services in the Commissarys Department in the Revolutionary War. as he the deponent has always understood. That deponent is the Heus land of Mary Ann Sechlers above named. Sworn to and subscribed to before me Samuel Taylor alderman and Henry Lechler Jr
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State of Pennsylvania
County of Philadlephia
In GEORGE CARPENTER Prothonotary of the Court of Common Please of said County, Do Certify, that Samuel Tayler Esquire before whom the annexed affidavit was made, is an Alderman of Family of Philadelphia and ex office a Justice of the Peace, duly commissioned and qualified to administer oaths and affirmations. and to all whose acts, as such, full faith and credit are and ought to be given, as well in Courts of Judicature as elsewhere.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said Court, this twenty first day of January A.D. 185
George Carpenter Prothonotary,
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1825
E.J. Weaver
(unreadable)
130
11064
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Extract from the Registry
Book of Baptisms of Christ Church St Peters and La James Church in the city of Philadelphia 
Baptized July 12th 1747 John son of John, and Mary Janes, Born June 15th 1747 
Albert G. Brown Clk
A true Extract
Wm: White, Bishop of Peter Church in ye Comm of Pennsylvania , Rector of  ye said St. Peters and James 
John C. Lowber Church Warden.
Extract from the Register Book of the above Churches Baptized may 24th 1752 and Mary Jones, Isaac, son of John Born April 9th 1752
Albert G Bird Clk
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State of Pennsylvania
County of Philadelphia
On this nineteenth day of July one thousand eight hundred and thirty four  personally appeared before the Court of Common Pleas of the City and County of Philadelphia John Jones, a resident of the County of Philadelphia, aged eighty seven years, who being first duly affirmed according to law, doth on his affirmation, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress dated June 7th 1832 That he was born in the City of Philadelphia, in the year seventeen hundred and forty seven (accompanying this declaration is an extract from the Register Book of Baptisms of Christ Church, St Peters and James Church in the City of Philadelphia where he earned the trade of Wheelwright and coachmaker that in April seventeen hundred and seventy seven, he went to Lancaster in the State of Pennsylvania and was then drafted as a militiaman and served agreeably law, two months under Captain Ewing-Colonel Gibson commanding the regiment when he received his discharge That he  immediately through the kind interference of Christopher Marshall of the Committee of Safety, who always manifested the utmost solicitude in his behalf obtained a situation in the Commissary Department under William Henry, Commissary General Contractor of provisions of the United States, where he had the management of the store; his business being to receive orders from the officers and packing them up and delivering them  He stayed  with the Commissary General three years, while under him, he was sent to Benjamin Gibbon's Mill on the Brandywine for fifty casks of flour for Governement, where near one of the Sentinels of our army, he received a wound on his left leg, of which he is still lame. In consequence of sickness he was obliged to leave the Department and go home where he stayed on ly one week. He then forthwith went to the Department under Charles Young, Clothier Master General for the State of Pennsylvania , where he stayed twenty two months having the charge of the store and delivering our clothing, packing and When he left Charles Young, he went into the Ordinance Department, the ma
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citizens at the lodgings of the President of the United States, who was then in the City of Philadelphia and to whom he felt a wish to present it for perusal unconsciously prevented its being returned to him, since which time he has made several unsuccessful attempts to retain it, the discharge was signed by the afore mentioned Captain and Colonel. In the year seventeen hundred and eighty two, it being advertised that all certificates should be sent to the Barbour Paymaster, at Poughkeepsie, for signing he placed his which was signed by William Henry, Charles Young and General Isaac Hasen, into the hands of William Harrison of General Washington's Brigade, for that purpose- sickness both of himself and family preventing him from going.
William Harrison never returned, he died a short time after he left him and he had, therefore, never heard anything from Mr. Barbour.  His certificate was given right after he left General Isaac Hasen.  For his services under William Henry, Charles Young and General Isaac Hasen, he nas never yet received a single cent.  Since the Revolution he has lived sometimes in Philadelphia City and at other times in Philadelphia County, where he carried out the business to which he was brought up as well as circumstances would allow. He is now however unable to attend to it. Now being at an advanced age, with a wife, seventy three years of age, who has the palsy in her hand and therefore is unable to do anything he is compelled to look to his country for relief in the firm conviction that his petition will not be overlooked.  He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any state. Affirmed to and subscribed, the day and year aforesaid in open Court
John Jones
F A Raybold 
I Alexander Moore certify that I was intimately acquainted with John Jones (whose declaration is above before the revolutionary war. That during the war, after I had myself joined the American Army, I was very frequently obliged to go to the commissary Department under William Henry, where I received my pro(unreadable) from the before mentioned John Jones, who was in that Department. That I also very frequently saw him, when he had left William Henry, at the Department under Charles Young Clothier master, where I had to go to draw Clothing. Also that I saw him when he had left Charles Young, engaged in the Ordinance Department under General Isaac Haven, in putting carriages in cannon taken from General Burgoine. All this of my own personal knowledge. Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open Court.
F.A. Raybold Alexander Moore
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We, Charles Hedelius and Lewis D Belair residing in the County of Philadelphia, hereby certify that we have been well acquainted with John Jones, who has subscribed and affirmed to the foregoing declaration, for many years; that we believe him to be eighty seven year of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion 
Lewis D Belair
Charles Hedelius
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open Court.
F A Raybold PP

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion that the aforesaid applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states 
Edward King
Archd Randall


I Richman Palmer of the Court of Common Pleas Fulton City and County of Philadelphian do hereby certify that the foregoing Court contains the original proceedings of the said in the matter of the application of John Jones for a pension.  In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 21st day of July AD 1834 
Richman Palmer
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March 16, 1939

BA-J/AWF
John Jones
R. 5711

Mr. West E. Blain 
Brandywine Summitt
Pennsylvania 

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letters in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Jones or John K. Jones, born June 15, 1747, died in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, December 11, 1835, his widow, Deborah, died December 21, 1835.

The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in claim for pension, R. 5711, based upon service of John Jones in the War of the Revolution. The name is not shown, John K. Jones.

John Jones was born June 15, 1747 in Philadelphia , Pennsylvania. He was the son of John and Mary Jones.

John Jones learned the trade of wheelwright and coachmaker in Philadelphia, and followed his trade sometimes in Philadelphia, and in Philadelphia County. 

John Jones enlisted sometime in April, 1777, in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, served two months in Captain Ewing's company, Colonel Gibson's Pennsylvania regiment. He served three years in the Commissary Department, under William Henry, Commissary General, while in this service, he was wounded in the left leg. He served twenty-one months, under Charles Young, "Clothier Master General", after
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which he served in the Ordnance Department, under General Isaac Hason. 

John Jones applied for pension July 19, 1834, then a resident of Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania

The claim for pension was not allowed, as the service rendered by him was not in a military capacity, and was not provided for by the Act of June 7, 1832, under which he applied.

John Jones died December 11, 1935 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. His widow died December 22, w935' the name of his wife is not given, and there are no further data in this claim in regard to her. 

The surviving children of John Jones in 1851 are given as follows-

Mary Ann Lechler, wife of Henry Lechler, Jr.
Abigail C. Booth
Deborah Shrigley. 

It was stated that Isaac, son of John and Mary Jones, was born April 9, 1752/ 

The papers on file in this claim contain no further discernible family data. 

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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1939 Mch 16 hist to
West (unreadable)
5711
John Jones
Service: 
born in Phil and April to Lancaster Capts Ewing Col Gibson-in Company Department
Enlisted: JM Henry 
Dischareged: Rejected
The printed list of 1852 gives cause of rejection as,  "He did not serve in a military capacity"
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Rejected did not serve in a military capacity see letters 1 Sept 1884 James Friend to 76 I.Z.  Act 7 June 1832
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John Jones
PA 5711
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Philadelphia July 22nd 1834

Dear Sir
I take pleasure in forwarding to you the papers of Mr John Jones an old revolutionary soldier who is desirous of receiving a pension. You will have the kindness to address your letters to me, if you should find necessity for further information.  Yours Truly
Hon R. Kneass
Franklin Institute  
Samuel L. Edwards Esquire
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80,620
John Jones
Philadelphia Pennsylvania
James L. Edwards Esq Commissioner Washington D.C
Dohm Pa 5711
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H.R. Kneass Esq
28th July 1734
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War Dept Pen Office July 26, 1834
Sir
The Declaration of John Jones has been examined. He alleges to have served one tour of two months as militia man and afterwards to have obtained a situation in the Commissary Dept, where he had the management of the store and that he afterwards was employed in the clothing dept. and that his business was to pack clothing. The services set forth by the applicant exception 2 mos as a militia man were not of such a character as to come within the provisions of the act of June 7, 1832 and his services as a militia man were of sufficient duration to entitle him to a pension His claim has therefore been rejected The papers will be  placed on the files in this office 
H.R. Kneass esq Philadelphia
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State of Pennsylvania County of Philadelphia
I certify that satisfactory evidence has been adduced before the Court of Common Pleas in and for said County to show that John Jones late of Philadelphia deceased was an applicant for a pension. That he died on the Eleventh day of December Eighteen  Hundred and Thirty five. That Mary Ann Sechler Abigail C Booth and Deborah Stigley are the only surviving children of the said John Jones. In testimony whereof I have hereto set my hand and seal this Twenty first day of January Eighteen Hundred and fifty one.
Geo. Carpenter Ratby
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Service
Penn.   Jones, John 
Number  R. 5711

Contents
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Washington Jany 28th 1851
Dear Sir
Enclosed you will find the application of the Heirs of of John Jones deceased late of Phila. for a pension under the act of June 7th 1832, and a Certificate of Court showing the names of the Children and date of Mr Jones death. John Jones made application for a pension under the acto of 1832, in the year 1834, and his papers are now on file in your Office, among the suspended or rejected case of Pennsylvania. I respectfully request an early examination of this case as it has now been before your Office Seventeen years I am very respectfully 
MMolby
D.D. Addison
Jas # heath Esq.
Comr of Pensions 
Jas. E Heath Esq.
Comm of Pensions
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War Dept. Pen Office Dec 23 1836
Sir
I herewith enclose the letter of  H.R. Kneass Esq respecting the claim of John Jones of Philadelphia implies the act of June 1832 which has been registered and have the honor to make the following report. The applicant alleges that he served as a militia man for two months in Pennsylvania in 1777. he alleges als that he obtained a situation in the Commissary Dept in which he had the management of the store and that his business was to pack up laundry articles and to deliver them according to order. in this business he was engaged three years. After this he entered into the clothing Department for the State of Pennsylvania and remained therein twenty months, having the charge of the store, and delivering out clothing. He then went into the Ordinance Dept. under Gen Isaac Hazen, where he stayed until the close of the war, while in that Dept, he alleges that he was engaged in putting carriages to the cannon taken with General Burgoyne's Army, and that thee persons employed under him were Cooper, and  two other persons. For the services set forth by the applicant it is believed that  he was employed under a civil contract any services of that character are not provided for by the act of 7 June 1832
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(written words were all crossed out)
Record Vol. 26 p. 261
23 Dec. 1845 D.C.
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Copy 

The Adjutant General's Office Washington. 

February 8, 1939

in reply refer to ORD/MN

Respectfully returned to
Mr. West E. Blain
Brandywine Summitt 
Pennsylvania 

The records show that one John Jones served in the Revolutionary War, rank not shown in Mitter's Regiment, Thompson's 1st Pennsylvania Regiment (1775). The date of his enlistment is not shown.  His name appears only on a return of sick and wounded in the General Hospital, Washington House from November 16 and was dismissed "28 N." He was 21 years of age. No further record found. 

The collection of Revolutionary War Records in this office is far from complete, and it is suggested as a possibility that additional information may be obtained from the Librarian, Harrisburg, Pa., or from the Veterans Administration, Washington, D.C. which has custody of the U.S. Pension records.

E.S. Adams 
Major General
The Adjutant General
By  M  .N.
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Brandywine Sumitt, Pa.
January 25, 1939
Adjutant General's Office Department Washington, D.C.
Sir:  Please advise me if you have Revolutionary War service for John Jones, otherwise know as John Jones, Sr., and John K. Jones, Sr., born June 15, 1742; died Philadelphia, Pa. December 11, 1835. He married Deborah----, May 22, 1777 Occupation wheel-wright and carriage-maker. He was a resident of the Northern Liberties, Philadelphia County, Pa. from 6.6.1795. He seems to have been a resident of Lancaster, Pa for a time during the war. He appears in the Philadelphia City Directories in 1794 as John Jones wheelwright and carriage maker 324 North Second Street, and in 1811 as John K. Jones, wheelwright and carriage-maker, 418 North 3rd St and 219 St John's Street. He appears in connection with a claim for pension, with service indicated in Colonel Thompson's regiment of the Pennsylvania Line. I have a certificate signed by John Spring, which states "I know him to serve in the Militia in the Volunteers in the Revolution War in Col Thompson Regiment Pennsylvania Line. John Spring." Trusting that you can help me in the above matter. Very Truly Yours, West E. Blain
11 Received AGO Jan 28 1839
Brandywine Summit, Pa
(Seal Received Jan 30 1939 Old Records division A.G.O.
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(Seal Top left: Received Feb 17 1939 Mail SUB-DIV. VETS ADM. LEADER 17 )

United States Veterans Administration 
Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen:-
I am enclosing the following at the suggestion of the Adjutant General, relative to possible application for or grant of a pension to John Jones, otherwise known as John K. Jones Sr., In the family bible of John K. Jones Sr. there is entered John K.Jones died December 11, 1833, aged 79 years, "this would make his birth about 1756. His wife Deborah died December 21, 1835, aged 80 years. In a real estate transaction in 1795 he signs, John Jones. In a real estate transaction in 1807 he signs, John K. Jones, and in a real estate transaction after that date, John K. Jones Sr.
Would you be good enough to send me the data concerning John Jones and and latter variation of John K. Jones and John K. Jones Sr., or his wife Deborah.  
West E. Blain,
Very Truly 
West E. Blain,
Brandywine Sumitt, Pa