Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 6599, for Conrad Krump, North Carolina
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(3-1776)

Service
N.C.

Krump, Conrad
Or
Crump

Number S. 6599

Carded
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[The Left side and Right side should be folded together to read]
Dead
Paid at the (Treasury?) and the 
Act of 6 April 1838, from 4th 
March to 2 Sept
1836. Agent
Notified of Dec'd
1844

[Center Column reads}
16.150
North Carolina 
Conrad Crump
Of Burke in the State of North Car.
Who was Pri. in the company commanded
By Captain Enox in the Regt. commanged
By Col. Lillington in the North Car. 
Line for 14 months.

*
Conrad Krump
Records Corrected
[Written over something illegible]

Inscribed on the Roll of North Car.
At the rate of 46 dollars 66 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March 1834
Certificate of Pension issued the 12th day of July ‘33
And sent from Wm Roane
Morgantown N.C. 

Arrears to the 4th of March ‘33 - 93.32
Semi-anl. Allowance ended 4 Sept “ - 23.33
$116.65

{Revolutionary Claim
Act June 7 1832}

Recorded by Wm. Miller Clerk
Book (?) Vol. 6 Page 36
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Treasury Department
Second Comptroller’s Office,
October 23, 1844

Sir: 
Under the act of the 6th of April 1838, entitled “An Act 
directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners,
and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United
States” and the third section of the Act of August 23, 1842, extending 
the time within which pensioners may receive their pensions from the pen=
Sion agents, The children of Conrad Crump, dec’d
A Pensioner on the Roll of the North Carolina 
Agency at the rate of 46 Dollars 
And 66 Cents per annum, under the law of the 7th June
1832, has been paid at this Department from the
4th of March to the 2 Sept 1836.
Respectfully yours,
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller.

To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present
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[Too faint, illegible]

Conrad Crump
Burke County
North Carolina

Admit as private
14 Mo. $46.66

5 -11- 12

William Roane
Morganton
North Carolina
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BRIEF in the case of Conrad Crump
of Burke County in the State of North Carolina
(Act 7th June, 1832)

Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a Court
If before a judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmary?
How old is he? about 79 -
State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

[Four Columns]

Period.                          
                                   
[Line 1] Subst. in 1780                             
[Line 2] Prisoner                                                   


                     Duration of Service. 
                 Years,      Months,     Days. 
 [Line 1]                       3 [under months]
 [Line 2]                    about 12 [under months]

Rank.
[Line 1]  Private

Names of General and Field Officers
under whom he served.

[Line 1]  Capt. Enox        Col. Lilington
[Line 2]  Genl. Lincoln     



1. In what battles was he engaged? Charleston
2. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Mecklenberg Co. N. C.
3. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by 
incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary evidence, living witnesses
4. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? the certificate of 
the certifying officers is not attached to the sheet of papers which contains 
the affidavit by a piece of tape the ends of which he -
X Certify that the foregoing statement and answers agree with the evidence of the case above mentioned. 

Dyer Castor, Examining Clerk
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State of North Carolina}
Burke County}

Court of Pleas and quarter Sessions October 1832
on the 23 day of October 1832 personally appeared
In the open Court before the Justices of the court now
in session Conrad of Conrod Crump, a resident 
Citizen of said County and State aged about 79
Years who first being duly Sworn according to
Law, doth in his oat make the following 
Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of
The pension according to the act of Congress
Passed the 7th June 1832

That in or about March 1780 he substituted in 
the place of John Barger in Captain Gabriel Enox 
company was marched to Salisbury and inspected 
by General Rutherford and marched on a 
Tour of 3 months under Col. Lilington of
The [word struck out, Rowan] militia to Charlotte & thence on
to Charleston the besieged by the British & 
Was forced to get into the city of Charleston
in boats down Cooper river that he served
In the company of said Gabriel Enoch till
the city was taken and detained as a prisoner
By the British for about the term of 12
Months. Taken to the north and there de-
Tained until he made his escape on Long 
Island in the state of New York and reached
Home through the various dangers of the Enemy
In the Jerseys just before Christmas in the year
1781. & that the British took all of his papers from
Him & that when he came home he found none of
his officers.
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As to be able to get a discharge & that he has 
No documentary evidence of his serves and the he 
has no better testimony of his service than the affida-
vits of those who served with him as hereunto annexed.

I hereby relinquish all claim whatsoever to a 
pension or annuity except the present and declare 
that my name is not on the pension list of the agency of any state.


Question by the court.

Where were you born, Answer I was born in 
the government of Germany Prince of Hese
& came to the country in the year 1776 
in the British Service: taken prisoner at the
Battle of Trenton from there brought to Elizabeth-
Town & exchanged - next taken by the British
on to Georgia and deserted at a place called 
Ebenezer above Savannah went to Colonel White
who commanded at Pittsburgh and got a
permit to come through the country to Meck-
-lenburgh, N.C. to which place I got in the Spring
of [word struck out, April] 1779. And in the following year 1780 early
in the year I enlisted into the American Army by 
taking the place of John Burger as substitute
as at first described.

I served under General Lincoln when he comman-
-ded in Charleston in the year of 1780 and at the 
time the city was taken -I never did receive
a discharge from the american service for the
reasons first set forth.

State the names of persons to whom you are
known in your present neighborhood who can
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testify as to your character for veracity and good
behavior, and your services in the Revolution.

Answer. I know John Copening; John Boon Esq.
Mark Brittain and Elisha P Miller; Alexander Perkins
& Elisha Hays Esquire the three last of who have
Certified for me 

Conrad [Crump?]

Sworn in open Court
23 October 1832
[???] J. Erwin, Clk

We Elisha Hays; and Elisha P Miller & Alexander
Perkins
Residing in the county of Burke & state of North Carolina
Do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with
Conrad Crump and believe that he is a person of 
good character as to veracity and to be relied on an
oath.
Sworn to in open Court
This 23rd October 1832
[???] J. Erwin, Clk 

E. Hayes
Elisha P MIller
Alex Perkins

And the said court fo hereby [word struck out, certify] declare
their opinion, after the investigation of the 
matter, and after putting the interrogatories pre-
scribed by the War department that the above
named applicant was a revolutionary Solder
and served as he states and the court further
Certify that it appears to them that Elisha
Hays, Elisha P. Miller & Alexander Perkins who also
Certified the same are justices of the peach of the
County of Burke and that statement is enti-
tled to full faith and credit.

[???]  J. Erwin, Clk
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State of North Carolina}
Cabarrus County}
On the 13th day of October 1832
Personally appeared before me Paul B. Barringer, one
of the acting justices of the peace for the said county -
George Barnhardt, a resident of Cabarrus County who
being duly sworn according to law says that he knows
of the following service of Conrad Crump in the Revolutionary
Wars “I know that Conrad Crump was a soldier in the 
service when Charleston was taken the 12th May 1780. Conrad
Crump was in a company commanded by Gabriel Enoch 
And had served was three months when the city capitulated
In our regiment. He was there taken prisoner with me and also
Know that he remained upwards of a year in the army 
before he returned to Mecklieburgh County N.C. where he
Lived. And all the neighbors believed that he had been 
all the time a prisoner in the British Army. I was in the
camp in Charlotte when Crump came there a volunteer sometime in
the month of March 1780. 
P.B. Berringer, JP (seal)
Geo. Bern hardt

Sworn to and subscribed before me by the said George Barnhardt
And I do hereby certify that the said George Barnhardt is
A credible person.

P.B. Berringer (seal)

I James G. Spears of Cabarrus County Court do
Hereby certify that P.B. Barringer is an acting justice of
the peace for Cabarrus County that the above is his
known signature - with my seal of office & hand this 13th
Day of October 1832

James G. Spears, Clk
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State of North Carolina }
Burke County}
Court of Pleas and quarter
Sessions October Court 1832

David Montgomery swears the he well knew
Conrad Crump during the Siege of Charleston
by the British in the year 1780. That he 
Montgomery served in the Company Commanded
by James Osborn Captain V. Littington of the 
Militia Colonel and that Conrad Crump was a 
private in the said regiment & remained so when
Charleston was taken by the British.

Sworn to in open Courl this
23rd October 1832
[???] J. Erwin, Clk 

David Montgomery
I, James Erwin, Clerk of the Court of Pleas and 
quarter Sessions for the County of Burke N.C. do hereby
Certify that the foregoing contains the original proceed-
ings in the matter of the application of Conrad
Crump for a pension.

In testimony whereof I have here unto
Set my hand and seal of the court at
Office this 24th day of October 1832
J. Erwin, Clk
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State of North Carolina}
Burke County}

Court of Please and quarter Sessions April
Sessions 1833

Conrad Crump makes oath that in open court
Being duly sworn deposeth & saith that by reason
of old age and the consequent loss of memory
he cannot swear more more positively on the
precise length of his service than he has done
In the preceding application that to the best
of his recollection he served as a private
as therein stated to which he begs leave to refer
and for which service he claims a pension &
that he cannot get a [unknown] in court for
his own resident minister is in bad health.

Sworn to in open co.
26 April 1833
J. Erwin, Clk 

Conrad Crump (Krumm?)

State of North Carolina }
Burke County }
This day came before
me John Sudderth (???)
a justice of the peace for the county of Burke
The Reverend Robert Johnston Miller, a clergyman
being rector of Saint Andrew’s Parish Burke County
North Carolina resident therein 
And Abraham Sudderth (?) who hereby certify that we
are well acquainted with Conrad Crump who
has described & sworn to the above declaration
that we believe him to be about 79 or 80
years of age that he is respectful and believed in
the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a
Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur
in that opinion.

Sworn to before me
This 26 day of April
1833 
John Sudderth J.P.


R.J. Miller, [unknown]
Abraham Sudderth
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State of North Carolina }
Burke County}

J. M. Sudderth 
A Justice of the peace for
said county do hereby certify that Robert
Johnson Miller who has sworn & & subscribed
the foregoing certificate is a clergyman as
By him described and that Abraham Sudderth
who has also subscribed and sworn and the same
are both of them gentlemen resident in
This county & ones whose statements are
to be relied on & that said Robert Johnson
Miller in consequence of Bodily infirmity
could not with convenience attend the court
of the county for the purpose of making
his statement in [word struck, writing] open court. Given
under my hand and seal the 24th day of April 1833

J.M Sudderth JP (Seal)

State of North Carolina}
Burke County} 
I James Erwin, Clerk
of the Court of Pleas
and quarter Sessions for the county of
Burke do hereby certify that John 
Suddath who hath certified the two 
last set forth affidavits is and was at
the time of doing the same a justice of
the peace for this county.
Given under my hand and seal of Court this 2nd day of May 1833
See page 3rd for the certificate of court
J. Erwin, Clk
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Mr. Malcolm V. Balmer          BA-J/EEL
Belcourt                                 Conrad Krump - S. 6599
North Dakota

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request infor-
mation in regard to Conrad Krump, a German, who came to this
country with the British forces, deserted the British, and joined
the American Army and served until the close of the war.

The data which follow are obtained from the papers on file
in Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 6599, based upon the mili-
tary service in that war of Conrad Krump.

Conrad Krump was born in Hesse, Germany. The date of his 
birth and the names of his parents are not shown.

Conrad Krump came to America in 1776 in the British service,
was taken prisoner at the battle of Trenton, was exchanged and
taken by the British to Georgia, in which state at Ebenser, he
deserted the British Army and made his way to Mecklenburgh, North
Carolina. While residing in Mecklenburgh, North Carolina, he 
enlisted in March, 1780, served as a private in Captain Gabriel
Enochs’ Company, Colonel Lillington’s North Carolina Regiment, and
was at the siege fo Charleston, where he was taken prisoner by the 
British, carried to Long Island, New York, and held for about 
twelve months when he made his escape and reach his home in
Mecklenburgh County, North Carolina, about Christmas, 1781.

He was allowed pension on his application executed October
23, 1832, at which time he was aged about seventy-mie years and
resided in Burke County, North Carolina.

He died September 18, 1836, place not shown.

Children survived him; their names and the name of his wife
are not stated.

Very truly yours,

B.H. Sweet
Acting Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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1936 Mar 25 [Unknown]
Malcolm V. Balmer [??]

RevWar

6599

Invalid

File No. 6599
Conrad Crump *
Priv. Rev. War

Act: June 7 1832
Index: - Vol. [??] Page 81

Arrangement of 1870
*Conrad Krump June 9/84 (?)
Records Corrected.
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Veterans Bureau
Pension Dept. Revolutionary War
Can you give me any
information regarding
Conrad K(C?)rump, a German
Mercenary who came over
With British Forces. Later 
he deserted the British
and joined Francis Marion
and served with him
until the clos of the
Was. His daughter Sarah
Elizabeth Krump born 1794,
Married William Henry
Yardle of the Mcklen-
burg Co. N. Car. Family. Their
first child, James, was
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born in Ky. 1811.

Thanking you, 
I am -
Very respectfully,
Malcolm V. Balmer
Belcourt, No. Dak

[Stamped Received, Mar 2 1936
Mail Sub-Div
Vets ????]
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Private Conrad Crump
79 years
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those
answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Conrad Crump which require
further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?
V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?

[Nothing marked]
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary services?
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? [word struck out twice, No]
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
 

EXPLANATORY NOTES.

QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit with the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For ___________ year ______________ months, and _____________  days, I served as a ______________. For ____________ months and __________ days, I served as a __________; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was 3performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the
certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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Morganton N.C. 2nd May AD 1833

Dear Sir
Enclosed are the Declarations affi-
-davits & certificates of Conrad Crump
amended according to the instructions
of the War Department
Be pleased to let me know
whether he is successful or not as
soon as they are examined.
Yours respectfully,
Wm Roane