Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R 1705, John J Carman, New Jersey
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(3 - 1776) 
SERVICE New Jersey 
Carman, John J.
NUMBER R 1705. |

CONTENTS
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Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832. 
State of New York 
County of Onondaga ss. On this eleventh day of September 1832 personally appeared in open Court, before Daniel Moseley Esquire Vicechancellor of the seventh circuit the state of New York at a  Court of Chancery now sitting at Onondaga in said County John J. Carman a resident of Pompey in the said County of Onondaga, State of New York aged eighty years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated, viz. in the latter part of the year 1776, he enlisted into the Regiment called the Jersey Blues, as a minute man, that he armed, equipped and uniformed himself, that at first the Regiment was commanded by Colonel Samuel Parker, afterwards by Colonel Samuel Crow; that by the time of his enlistment he was to be ready at all times when called on, and that for two whole years, he served every other month, that is, he was one month in active military service, and one month at home, and after the close of the year 1778 was occasionally called out in alarms; that General Nathaniel Heard had the command in that quarter of East Jersey where he was then stationed, which was at Woodbridge near Staten Island; that he was in a battle with the British at Elizabethtown on the third of June 1777 and in the Battle of Monmouth 28th of June 1778, in which latter Battle he was under the command of Colonel Ford, & that the Regiment of Colonel Frelinghuyson, was attached to that of Colonel Ford, saw General Washington, General Maxwell & other officers of the army at different periods of service.
That he was born in Woodbridge, East Jersey, 4 October 1757. that he lived there when he entered the service and continued to live there till near the year 1800, he then removed to Fishkill, Dutchess County where he lived about three years, then to Beekman in said County where he lived above three or four years, then to Hurley in Ulster County where he lived about
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seven or eight years, their to Pompey in Onondaga County when he lived about three years, then to Cincinnatus in Cortland County when he lived till February last, when he again removed to Onondaga County where he now resides, that he now resides in Pompey in said County, that there is a record of his age in the family bible at Cincinnatus. 
That in entering the service, he entered as a volunteer that he knows of no person residing in the vicinity of his present residence who can testify to their belief of his serving as a soldier of the Revolution, in the form required viz "that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution," because having lived in the neighborhood but a few weeks, and being infirm and deaf, he has not had any considerable opportunity of acquaintance there; that at Cincinnatus, where he resided, John Covert resides who could give that testimony respecting his belief and the general assertion then and at other places where he has resided, probably Samuel Holmes now of Solon late of Cincinnatus, could give testimony also. That he knows of no surviving witness who can testify as to his personal knowledge of his service, and that he never had any written discharge; that during the said service he was acquainted with many officers & with several Regiments of the army by name, which he can not now recollect, that the annexed, which he has now presented to him and the depositions of Holmes and Court, above referred to. 
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State
 John J Carman 
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid, the words Daniel Morely at the beginning, being first written on examine and
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interviewed before sworn Daniel Moseley Circuit Judge & Vice Chancellor
And the said Court hereby declare their opinion the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states 
Daniel Moseley 
Vice Chancellor
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I Daniel F. Mosely Deputy Clerk of the Court of Chancery of the seventh circuit for the state of New York do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the Matter of application of John J Carman for a pension 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 12th day of February 1833- 
Daniel F. Moseley 
Deputy Clerk
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1st Brief
No. 7804
John J. Carman

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4.5.11.12.16

| 17 Sept 1832 |
20 Nov 1832 |

A. Smith 
Agt 
Maulius
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No 7804 
BRIEF in the case of John J. Carman of Pompey County of of Onondaga in the State of New York 
(Act 7th June, 1832.) 
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? In Open Court. - 
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? ---
3. How old is he? 80 years 
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
Period. In 1776 - |
Duration of Service. Months, Days. --- |
Rank. As a Minute Man┃ 
Names of General and field Officers under whom he served. Gen, Col Parker & Col Crow, Col Ford. |
5. In what battles was he engaged? Battle at Elizabethtown & Monmouth. 
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Woodbridge East Jersey. 
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? By traditionary evidence. 
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Certificate of Clergyman Counting

Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned. 
James Rd  Examining Clerk.
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State of New York, Onondaga County ss. John J. Carman, applicant for a pension under the act of June 1832, being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he has been for many years very deaf and can only with very great difficulty hear conversation; that he has today read the Letter of J. L. Edward to A. Smith respecting his application for a pension, that from old age and loss of memory, he cannot state every particular period of his service, that he served as a private in the service of the United States in the New Jersey Volunteers during the Revolutionary War more than two years and for such service he claims a Pension; that this deponent estimates his service at more than two years & six months and thinks that he served from 1776 to 1778 about twelve months from 1778 to 1780, one year during two years alternate monthly service from 1780 to 1781 at least four months and afterwards about one month; that all his said service was in the State of New Jersey in the neighborhood of New York & Staten Island; that about the time the British took possession of New York and as this deponent believes in August 1776, the Militia Regiment of Colonel Parker to which this deponent belonged, was called on for volunteer minute men, and amongst others this deponent volunteered as a minute man, to serve in the said State wherever called during the war that as such minute man he joined what were called the Jersey Blues, and was very frequently called into service, the first of which as this deponent recollects was one raid at Paulus Hook when the British first went out the river soon after they took possession of New York, Genl Heard commanded. Colonel Parker commanded the Regiment & Captain Ross the company. that during his service, he served personally under Captain Robert Ross, and Captain Matthew Freeman of Woodbridge, and Captain Moses Martin and Captain
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William Manning of Piscataway the for a great part of the time of the war, this deponent served every alternate month, and that he did so without any failing for two whole years after the British left New Jersey soon after the Monmouth Battle that the captain of Woodbridge & those of Piscataway which towns from had steadily, one company, in service out of two which had volunterred entered into an agreement among themselves to serve half of the time and to have the men do the same; that this deponent served under Colonel Parker Crow and Ford, and the Colonel Frelinglys Regiment joined that of Ford in the Battle of Monmouth, that the principal part of this deponents service was in guarding the shore of Arthur Kill sound from Amboy to Elizabeth town against the corps of General Skinner formerly of Amboy a Tory who to the number of nearly 500 were stationed in Staten Island and frequently come to Jersey plundering, burning & carrying off prisoners to the Sugar House in New York that this deponent in the said he was stationed at Tremley at Ralway and at Elizabeth town, and that he spent many a cold winter night in hunger, wind & rain, patrolling on the Kill Sound. that tho' he states his whole service as a private, he did what he calls sergeants duty one month at Paulus Hook and one month at Elizabeth town; that he frequently in alarms and in the approach of the enemy served when it was the month to stay at home and in the time of the Monmouth battle he so served twelve days at other time six days & so on. 
Taken Subscribed & sworn this John Harman that for twenty fourth day of July 1833 before me Asa Nims Justice of the Peace
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State of New York 
County of Onondaga} ss.  I Alanson Edwards Junior Deputy Clerk of the said County do certify that Asa Nims Esquire before whom the preceding affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of the same one of the Justices of the peace in and for the said County and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name Subscribed to the jurat of said affidavit to be his proper hand writing and genuine signature Witness my hand and seal of office this 31st day of July 1833 
A. Edwards Jr Dep Clk -
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1705.  REJECTED [stamp]
P.O. John J. Carman

Service:
Enlisted:   ,18. ,
Discharged:   ,18. ,
Application filed:   ,18. ,

List of suspended claims printed in 1852 shows cause of suspension as follows: "Period, length, grade, names. of officers and localities of each tour called for." 

Attorney:
P.O.


Recognized.   Contract.
Cert of Dis.  Searched for    ,18. .
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New York 
Revo 
X |
John J. Carman 

Suspended 
let A Smith. 6 July 
1833; let to same 7 
Nov. '33 
let to Hon W. Taylor 
Apl 17, '34 not found |
let to Do May 29, '34 
1705
Act 7 June 32 -
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State of New York, County of Onondaga ss. Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County, John J. Carman, an applicant for a pension under the act of 7 June 1832, who being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following grades viz. For two months I served a Sergeant; for one year and ten months I served as a private, and for such service I claim a pension. this deponent further saith, that from his deafness it was very difficult for him correctly to state all the particulars of his service, which he might have done could he have heard distinctly and the necessity of stating it, been understood by him, that within three months after the declaration of Independence, 4th July 1776, he volunteered as a minute man, in the Jersey Blues, and served till the close of the year 1781; and during two whole years he served, every other month, or one half of the times, and for the residual of the period he served never less than one fourth of the time, and from that to half of the time as the alarms & exigencies of the frontier near Staten Island required; this deponent further saith that in the year 1776 he served one month and he believes the first or nearly the first of his said service at Paulus Hook under Captain Ross with some Connecticut Regiments; that for the last few years his deafness has prevented his being much acquainted with Clergyman, who remove frequently there is now no clergyman with whom he is acquainted residing at his present residence, or in his late residence at Cincinnatus or in the vicinity, and that he completes as fully with with the form prescribed under the act of 7th June 1832 as his circumstances would permit- 
John J. Carman
Subscribed & Sworn this 28th day of January 1833 before me 
A Nims J.P.  
12 mo
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State of New York 
County of Onondaga ⎬ss   I, Reuben L. Hess Clerk of the said County do hereby certify that Asa Nims before whom the within affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of the same one of the Justices of the Peace in and for the said County and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the jurat of the said affidavit to be his proper hand writing and signature 
Witness my hand and seal of Office this 4th day of February 1833. 
R. S. Hess Clerk 




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State of New York 
Onondaga County ss} Personally appeared before me the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in the town of Pompey in the County of Onondaga and State aforesaid, John J. Carman who resides in said town of Pompey, who being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For ten months in the township of Woodbridge I served as a private, for three months at Elizabeth town I served as a private, for one month at Bergen, I served as a private for one month at Paulus Hook as a private, going and coming from the battle at Monmouth ten or twelve days as a private, for two months I served as a Sergeant, and for such service I claim a pension. 
John J Carman 
Subscribed and Sworn before me this 29th day of March 1834 - 
Elisha Litchfield J. Peace 

State of New York County of Onondaga ss.  Azariah Smith being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that in August 1832 he has several times seen John J. Carman applicant for a Pension, that he is very deaf so that it is difficult to make him hear, and that it is also difficult to communicate to him by writing so as to get answers to the purpose, that the above affidavit which embraces several months less time then he says he actually served as all the time which I understand he can locate, or tell with certainty where he served, and that this deponent as his agent understand that the applicant relinquishes his claim beyond 15 months ten days as a private & two months as a Sergeant. this deponent further saith, that from personal observation & information from others, he has the most entire confidence in the recited of the said John J. Carman and that it is his determination to state only what he know to be true, but this deponent does not on the whole feel
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entirely confident, that in writing from said applicant, his statements, that he has been able to state every particular as intended by the said Carman, though this deponent has spent hours in endeavoring so to do, this deponent further saith that he understand that the said John J. Carman lost his property in the Revolutionary war, and that he is now poor, infirm deaf and helpless, and this deponent verily believes that if the said John J Carman could hear so as to converse fully, and his memory were as good as that of most men of the Revolution he would get a full Pension or nearly a full one, without any trouble or delay this deponent further saith that he understand that considerable exhort has been had by the friends of said Carman in endeavoring to look for brother of his who is living and retaining his memory & faculty could relate all about it, this endeavor has found fruitless and so have all endeavors to get from him such a statement as is required in N. Edward Letters of 6 July & 7 year last this deponent finally saith, after a careful review of the subject, that in his opinion there is not the least doubt that John J. Carman is entitled to a pension under the act of 1832 for the services in the annexed affidavit, altho this deponent is at the same time of opinion that he has not & cannot exactly comply with the regulations of the war Department respecting that law owing to his faculties being impaired by age Subscribed & Sworn this 7th April 1834 before me 
A Nims J.P
Azaniah Smith .

John J. Carman
adl. enc. |
Hon Wm Layton
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State of New York 
County of Cortland ss.  Philip Holmes of Solon in said County being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he was well acquainted with John J. Carman then of the Town of Hurley County of Ulster for the space of seven or eight years commencing about twenty years ago, and since that time about seven years in the town of Cincinnatus in this County and that the said John J. Carman in both those places sustained a good character for truth and veracity and was in both those places reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resided to have been a soldier of the Revolution; and I the said Philip Holmes concur in that opinion, and believe him to be of the age of eighty years & upwards, and the said Deponent further saith that the said John J Carman removed from Cincinnatus to Onondaga County, in February last 
Philip M Holmes
Subscribed & sworn this 28th day of August  1832 before me Oliver Kingman Justice of the Peace 
I certify that Philip Holmes the above named deponent is a person of truth and veracity, and that full credit may be given to his deposition and that I am well acquainted  with him the said Philip Holmes }
 Oliver Kingman Justice of the peace 

State of New York 
County of Cortland. ss.   John Covert of Cincinnatus in said County being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that he has been for many years acquainted with John J. Carman, now of the town of Pompey County of Onondaga, that he knew him when he resided in Fishkill County of Dutchess, afterward where he resided in Hurley County of Ulster, and for the last ten or twelve years while he resided in Cincinnatus as foresaid in all of which places he maintained a good character for truth and veracity and was in all those places reputed and believed in the neighborhood, when he resided to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and I the said John Covert concur in that opinion and believe him to be of the aged eighty years & upwards, and the said John Covert further saith that the said John I Carman removed from Cincinnatus to Onondaga County in February last 
John Covert 
Subscribed & Sworn this 28th day of 1832 before me 
Oliver Kingman Justice of the Peace
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I the above named Justice hereby certify that the above John Covert is a person of truth and veracity and that credit should be given to his deposition and that I am well acquainted with him the said John Covert 
Oliver Kingman Justice of the Peace 

State of New York County of Cortland, Clerks office SS 
I Samuel Hotchkiss Jr. Clerk of said County hereby certify that Oliver Kingman Esquire before whom the within & annexed deposition and certificates were taken was at the date of the said deposition and certificates a Justice of the Peace duly elected and sworn and that I am acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and verily believe his signature to the two within depositions and to the within and annexed certificates as the proper handwriting of the said Justice 
In witness whereof I have hereto set my hand and affixed the seal of the Court of Common Pleas of said County at Cortlandville this Twenty ninth day of August AD 1832 
Saml Hotchkiss J. Clk 


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State of New York 
Cortland County } ss Be it known that on the 28th day of May 1833 personally appeared before me the undernamed Justice of the Peace Oren Catlin and made oath in due form of law and says that he is a clergyman residing in the town of Cincinnatus and in the neighbourhood where John J. Carman lately resided, and is acquainted with many of the neighbors of John J. Carman, and that it is the opinion of many if not all the neighbors that said John J. Carman was a soldier in the revolutionary war - and that I concur in that opinion from such acquaintance, and further saith not 
Oren Catlin
Subscribed & Sworn before me this 28th day of May 1833 I also certify that I am well acquainted with Oren Catlin above named & know him to be a clergyman as he states and his statements are entitled to full Credit Oliver Kingman Justice of the Peace
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State of New York 
Cortland County
Clerks office S.S.
 I Samuel Hotchkiss Clerk of said County do certify that Oliver Kingman Esq before whom the within affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of the a same a Justice of the Peace in said County duly commissioned & sworn. Also that I am acquainted with his hand writing verily  I believe his name subscribed to the within affidavit for his own proper hand writing & signature 
Witness my hand & seal of office 
June 10th 1833
Saml Hotchkiss Jr. Clk
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May 19. 1834 
to Hon W. Taylor 
 
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Rec. Vol. 30, pg 482
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War Department 
Pension Office 
May 29 1834 
Sir
The papers of John J. Carman have again examined. Mr Carman in his supplemental affidavit has failed to give in conformity with the regulations such a detailed account of his services as was required on a former examination. The duration of each term of actual service should be of specified, the names of the officers under whom each tour was performed & the place or place when each was performed before any decision can be had on the case 
The papers remain on file 

Hon. W. Taylor
House of Reps.
U.S.
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A. Smith
7 Nov. '33
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Rec'd vol 30 p. 140
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War Department 
Pension Office 
Nov. 7 1833 
Sir
The claim of John J. Carman has again been examined. The applicant was required in my letter of the 6th June last to specify the names of the officers under whom he served the particular place or places when the service was performed, the duration of each term of actual service; The requisition has not been complied with  without a more particular account of the above service it is impossible to form an opinion of the merits of case. It continues suspended 
A. Smith Esqr 
Manlius
New York
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A. Smith
6 July 1833

OC

Susp R War


Re vol. 9
Pg 257.
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War Depart 
Pension off
July 6 1833 
Sir.
The claim of John J. Carman has been examined & suspended. The regulations require a more perfect recital of the terms & periods of service than he has given either in his original or supplemental declaration. In the case of an alternate monthly service the claimant should state that he regularly served every alternate month in field or garrison from one period to another with the names of officers - where marched or stationed --- and where the service was not alternate the claimant should state the period term & grade of each tour etc- This papers are placed on file
| actg. June

A. Smith, esq.
Manlius -
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Addl. proof
John J. Carman
NY

Manlius N.Y.
Aug. 4th

J.S. Edwards Esq.
Court Pensions
Washington City
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Manlius Augt. 3 1833
Sir 
This certificate should have been sent on Wednesday with an explanatory affidavit of John J. Carman applicant for a pension under act y June 1832 
will please place this with the affidavit & reexamine his case 
Yours 
A.Smith
J Edward Esq