Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 3582, John Williams, Penn.
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(3 - 1776)
SERVICE   NUMBER
Penn.  Williams, John    S.3582
CONTENTS   carded
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No
17137-
John Williams. Trumbull County
No. 7830                       Ohio
Admitted for 6 mos [months]
from 1776- $20,00
Rufus P Spalding
Warren, Trumbull Co
Ohio
[crossed out George Parsons Clerk Trumbull County Court Ohio]
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BRIEF in the case of John Williams 
of Trumbull County in the State of Ohio
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 74.
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period.  Duration of Service.   Rank.   Names of General and Field Officers 
                                                              under whom he served
          Years,   Months,   Days   As a       Gen.
Drafted In 1776   more than 6 _     Private     Capt [Captain] Olds Cols Bird & Hollar
              __________

5. In what battles was he engaged? -- Frequent Skirmishes on Long Island
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Berks Co Pa
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?
Traditionary evidence
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct.
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Dyer Castor. Examining Clerk.
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John Williams
John Williams
Application for a
 Pension-
17137
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State of Ohio}
Trumbull County ss}
On this 10th day of October A.D. 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Court of Common Pleas now sitting at Warren within and for said County of Trumbull, John Williams a resident of said Warren in the County & State aforesaid, aged Seventy four years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the
benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832: That he entered the service of the United States and served as herein stated -
In the Spring of the year 1776 I was drafted and joined a company of Pennsylvania Militia raised in the vicinity of Reading and commanded by Captain James Olds - Immediately after I was drafted I was sent round the County to press guns blankets &c for the service. We were first marched from Reading to Wilmington in the State of Delaware where we joined our Regiment
commanded by either Col. Bird or Col. Hollar, I am not certain which-- We stayed a short time at Wilmington and from thence were marched to New Jersey and finally on to Long Island - While on the Island we were attached to General Lee's command and had frequent skirmishes with the enemy - I was with the army when it left the Island and crossed over to New York-- I was in the vicinity of Fort Washington when it was taken by the British
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and heard the firing on that occasion-- Subsequently we were marched to Princeton & Trenton and from thence home where I was discharged by Captain
Olds - From the time I was drafted to the time I was discharged, then was embraced a period of more than six months but how much more I cannot say - I have no documentary evidence & know of no person whose testimony I can procure touching my services-
       his
John X Williams
      mark
Sworn to and subscribed}
 the day & year aforesaid}
George Parsons Clk [clerk]

Interrogatories propounded by order of Court to the
 said John Williams __
1. Where and in what year were you born?
Answer - Near Reading in Pennsylvania in the year 1758
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so where is it?
Answer - I have none-
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war & where do you now live?
Answer I was living in Exeter Township Just below Reading, Berks County Pennsylvania, Since the war I have lived 25 years in Virginia and (4 erased) 26 - 27 years in the County of Trumbull, Ohio, when I now live-
4. How were you called into Service?
Answer. I was drafted-
5. State the names of some of the regular Officers who were with the Troops where you served, such Continental & Militia Regiments as you can recollect
& the general circumstances of your service-
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Answer - on Long Island there were Genls Lee & Col. Bird who commanded 
the troops with which I served. I recollect on the day of the Battle of Long Island standing near Col Bird on the entrenchment bank, when a Cannon Ball
 passed  between us & the Col. said it was time for us to leave ---
6. Did you ever receive a Discharge from the Services;
 and if so by whom was it given and what has become 
of it?
Answer - I think I did from Captn. [Captain] Olds but have lost it long since --
7.  State the names of persons to whom you are known 
in your present neighborhood & who can testify as to 
your character for veracity and their belief of your services as a 
Soldier of the Revolution-
Answer-- Henry Lane, James Scott George Parsons Clerk of the Court & George Mygatt Sheriff of the County

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any
State  -                                         his   
 Sworn to and subscribed}         John X William  
  the day & year aforesaid}                mark
George Parsons Clk [Clerk]

We George Parsons, George Mygatt & James Scott residing in Warren Trumbull County, Ohio do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Williams who has subscribed and sworn
 to the above declaration, that we believe him to be Seventy four years of age & a man of strict truth and veracity. That we believe he served his country in the War of the Revolution in the way and
manner and for the term of time set forth in his Declaration  Sworn to and subscribed in open}                  James Scott
Court this 11th day of October 1832}             George Mygatt                   
 Lancaster King associate Judge                      George Parsons
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And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the
matter and after putting the interrogations prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the Court further certify that it appears to them that George Parsons James Scott and George Mygatt who signed the within Certificate are residents of said County and that they are creditable persons and that their statement entitle
to credit
The State of Ohio}
Trumbull County}
I George Parsons Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the
matter of the application of John Williams for a pension

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office at 
Haven this [illegible] day of October A.D. 1832
George Parsons Clerk
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June 6, 1932

Grace M. Winnagle           John Williams S.3582
267 Belmont Street, N.W.  
Warren, Ohio                     BA-J/EEL

Dear Madam:

    Reference is made to your letter relative to John Williams, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.

    The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S.3582, based upon the military service of John Williams in that war.

    While residing in Exeter Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania, he enlisted in the spring 1776, served as a private in Captain James Olds' Company, Colonel Bird's or Colonel Haller's Pennsylvania Regiment, was in the battle of Long Island and in several skirmishes, length of service more than six months.

    After the Revolution, he resided twenty-five years in Virginia, and twenty-six years in Trumbull County, Ohio.

    He was allowed pension on his application executed October 10, 1832, while residing in Warren, Trumbull County, Ohio.

    There are no data as to his family.

                               Very truly yours

                               A.D. Hiller
                               Assistant to Administrator
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Williams which require further proof of explanations.

I.  Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? 
II.  Did the declarant make the declaration in the court where he resides?
III.  If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV.   Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?
V.  *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?   No.
VI.  Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?
VII.  Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension that the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?
VIII.  Has the Court given their opinion?
IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate?
X.  Is the Clerk's seal affixed?  And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
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                                    2.

XI.  Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?    No.
XII.  If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?   No.
XIII.  If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
   If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
    Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XIV.   *If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
    If he produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness of witnesses?
   Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV.  Does it appear any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI.   Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
XVII.  Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily?  And, in not, which of them is not so answered?
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Explanatory Notes.
Quere V.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:  "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades;  For ____ year ____ months and _____ days, I served as a ____ For ____ months and ____ dyas, I served as a ____; and for such service I claim a pension. "
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   It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of service.   The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable.  It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was not employed in any civil pursuit

QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
    In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
   In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
    In every case where the clerk of the court, of other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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Mrs. Roscoe Scott Winnagle
283 Washington street, N.W.
Warren, Ohio

Nov. 29, 1939

Veterans Admr.
Accounting Div.

Gentlemen; -

    John Williams of Warren Ohio was allowed pension for services in the Revolutionary War, claim S-3582, on his application executed Oct 10 1832, while a resident of said town of Warren.  He died in Warren April 2, 1835.
    Desired name of party or parties to whom arrears of pension were paid of any information contained in your records as to his family.  
    Thanking you for the favor I am

    Very respectfully,
              //s//
      Grace M. Winnagle

     Grace M. Winnagle
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December 14, 1939.

Grace M. Winnagle                        BA-J/ILL
285 Washington Street N.W.         John Willaims
Warren, Ohio                                 S. 3582

Dear Madam:

     Reference is made to your letter in which you request the names of the party of parties to whom the last payment of pension of John Williams, pension claim S. 3582, was paid.

    In order to obtain the data which you desire, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, this city, and furnish the following data:

John Williams
Certificate #7830
Issued April 10, 1833
Rate $20 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Ohio (Pittsburgh) Agency

Very truly yours,

A.D. Hiller,
Executive Assistant 
to the Administrator.
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3 -- 649.
Bureau of Pensions.
Oct 10" 1832
74
Warren Ohio
Enos pvt [private] Pa
Olds
Bird
Berks Co Pa
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Rev War
3582
INVALID.
File No. 3582
John Williams
Pri. [Private] Pa. line
Act: June 7, '32
Index: -- Vol. A, Page 407
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1932 June 6- Hist to Grace M. Winnagle: Letter in case Joseph Bartholomew W. 9345- EEL


1939. Nov. 14. Grace M. Winnagle furnished data for last payment of pension I. L. L.