Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 5758, for William Jones, New Jersey
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Service
New Jersey
Jones, William
Number R. 5758

Contents
A Mar 13, 1744 Bucks Co. Pa
res at [illegible] Sussex Co. N.J.
res in [illegible] Sangamon Co. Ills
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State of Illinois
Sangamon County }ss.
On this 31st day of July 1834 personally appeared before Thomas Moffett Esquire one of the Judges of the County Commissioners Court in and for said county and state aforesaid, William Jones of the said county and state aforesaid, aged ninety years, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.  That he was born in Dansbury township in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, on the 13th of March 1744, but has no record of his age.  That he resided there until after Braddocks defeat when he removed to Black River, Sussex County, New Jersey, where he was living at the commencement of the American War.  That during the month of September (1774) he enlisted as a private in Captain Scotts company of militia or continental army for one year, and marched direct from Sussex County to Ticonderoga in the State of New York where they remained the whole of the time until the summer following.  That he was engaged in no skirmish or engagement, but the company merely kept a guard while at Ticonderoga.  Jacob Lauder was Lieutenant and ____Anderson Ensign.  They were in company with no troops of which he now recollects.  That in the summer of (1775) they left Ticonderoga and marched direct to New Jersey and reached there sometime in August or September (thinks September) where the company was disbanded and he received from Captain Scott a written discharge, which he has long since lost.
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That in October of November /1775/ he was enlisted by Captain Shaver in Sussex County for 5 months, was marched down to Morristown, and was there placed in Capt. John Seward's company in the regiment commanded by Col Ephraim Martin / Jno Martin Lieut Col. / and was then marched direct to the City of New York and remained there during the spring and winter and until the day after independence was declared.  Then he left the company of Capt. Seward but received no written discharge from him.  On the same day he entered as letterman or waiting man to Genl. Putnam.  They marched on the same day over to Long Island under Genl Putnam, but evacuated the Island on the same day and returned to New York, where we staid about 10 days, when we marched to Fort Washington and remained there about /6/ six weeks.  Marched from there to White Plains.  Staid there about / 1 / week when the Battle of White Plains took place and in which he was engaged.  Department same day, went to Paddytown, crossed Croton River, marched to the Hudson River at the mouth of the Peekskill and crossed it at Kings Ferry.  Was then marched across the Quackinack to the English neighborhoods.  Then orders were received to return.  We recrossed the Quackinack and marched to Fort Lee.  Fort Washington was taken the same day by the British army.  Gen. Putnam shortly after marched the army to the Jerseys and he continued to act in the capacity of his waiter until the latter part of the fall or beginning of the winter of /1777/.  When Genl Putnam told him he might go home but gave him no written discharge.  He thinks has served about /18/
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months as waiter to Genl Putnam.  Connot recollect the place where he was discharged but was about /100/ miles from home.  
That he is extremely deaf so that it is with great difficulty he can converse and his recollection is so far gone that he cannot recollect times and places easily nor the troops or officers with whom his regiment served.  That he has been a cripple for a good many years.  That he removed sometime after the war to Washington County, Maryland upon the Potomac, and resided there until /1786/ when he removed to near Beardstown Kentucky.  There he continued to reside until /1827/ at which time he removed to Sangamon County, Illinois where he has since resided and now resides.  That he has no documentary evidence, and knows of no person whose testimony he can procure, who can testify to his service.  He states the Reverend Thomas Campbell and Mr. Joshua Brown, who reside in his neighborhood and with whom he is acquainted who can testify to his character for veracity, and their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution.  He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state. 
William Jones

Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me, Thomas Moffett Presiding Judge of the County Commissioners Court of Sangamon County.

We, Thomas Campbell a clergyman and Joshua Brown, residing in Sangamon County, Illinois hereby certify that we are well acquainted with William Jones who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that from his appearance and statements they believe him to be ninety years of age; that he is reputed
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and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Thomas Campbell
X His mark Joshua Brown

Sworn & subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me, Thomas Moffett, Presiding Judge of the County Commissioners Court of Sangamon Cty

And the said judge doth hereby declare his opinion, after the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states.  And he further certifies, and it appears to him that Thomas Campbell who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the said county of Sangamon and that Joshua Brown who has also signed the same is a resident of the same county and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit.  And he doth further certify that the said Campbell is the nearest clergyman who is acquainted with the applicant, and that in his opinion, the said applicant cannot from his advanced age and extreme bodily debility attend the court, he residing 8 miles from the courthouse.  
In witness whereof I the said Judge have hereunto set my hand the day and year above stated.  
Thomas Moffett Presiding Judge of the Co. Comm. Court Sang. Cty

Personally appears before the undersigned judge as above the said William Jones who being sworn saith that by reason of old age and consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the exact length of his service but according to the best of his recollection he served no less than the periods mentioned below 1.  For 1 year as a private, 2. for 8 months as a private. 3rd for 18 months as waiter to Genl Putnam and for such service I claim a pension. 
Wiliam Jones

Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid before me
Thos. Moffett Presiding Judge &c.
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October 6, 1939

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William Jones
R. 5857
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Miss Daisy L. Whiteside
Route #2
Belleville, Illinois

Reference is made to your letter of September 23, in which you designate William Jones as the soldier in whom you are most interested.  You state that he was born in Dansbury, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, served in the Revolutionary War in the New Jersey line under Captains John B. Scott and John Seward and that he later lived in Sangamon County, Illinois. 
The record of William Jones follows as found in the papers of the claim for pension under File No. R. 5758, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War,
William Jones was born March 13, 1744, in Dansbury Township, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, where he lived until after Braddock's Defeat, then moved to Black River in Sussex County, New Jersey.
While a resident of Sangamon County, Illinois, to which place he moved in 1827, William Jones applied July 31, 1834, for pension and alleged that while he was living at Black River, New Jersey, he enlisted in September, 1774, under Captain Scott, for the term of one year, that he served as private in Captain Scott's company of New Jersey militia stationed at Ticonderoga, New York, as a guard, until the summer of 1775, when he marched to New Jersey and was discharged in September, following; that he enlisted again in October or November, 1775, under Captain Shaver, for five months, served as a private in Captain John Seward's company, Colonel Ephraim Martin's New Jersey regiment, then served eighteen months as waiting man to General Putnam, that he was in the battle of White Plains and that he was discharged in the winter of 1777.
His claim for pension was not allowed as he failed to furnish satisfactory proof of his alleged service as required by the pension law.

next time --> in accordance with the requirements of
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Sometime after the Revolution, William Jones moved from New Jersey to Washington County, Maryland, on the Potomac River, where he remained until 1786, the moved to a place near "Beardstown", Kentucky.
No reference was made in the claim to wife or children of the soldier, William Jones, nor was the date of his death given.

Very truly yours
A.D. Hiller
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator


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REJECTED
5758

P.O.
Wm. Jones
Service:  born Bucks Co. Pen 1744 to Sussex Co. N.J. to Ticonderoga
after war to Washington Co. Md until 1786, then to near Beardstown KY & 1837 to Ills.

Enlisted: ________, 18  
Discharged:  ________, 18 
Application Filed  ________, 18 
Alleges:
Re-enlisted
The 1852 printed list of Rejected and Suspended claims on page 422 gives cause of suspension as "For proof of service"

Attorney:
P.O.
Recognized.
Contract
Cert. of Dis.
Searched for  ________, 18 
1917 June 22 Hist to the Hon. Lawrence Y. Sherman, U.S.S.  aw
1739 Oct 6 Hist to Miss Daisy L. Whiteside     MLB
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Suspended
Wm. Jones
See letter to 
Fergus V. Treat
Springfield Ill
16 Jany 1835
The above noted letter cannot be found
5758
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31,726
Wm. Jones
Illinois

suspd.
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State of Illinois
Sangamon County }ss.
I Charles R. Matheny Clerk of the County Commissioners Court in and for said county do hereby certify that Thomas Moffett is the presiding judge of the County Commissioners of said county and that the signature to the annexed paper is his genuine signature.
Given under my hand and seal of office at Springfield this 31st day of July 1834
C. R. Matheny Clerk.
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FREE
War Department
Pension Office
Washington D.C.

Postmarked:  Springfield  Dec 29
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Springfield Dec 25th 1834
Sir
The enclosed declaration of William Jones through much inattention on our part has not been returned as required in the accompanying letter.  We hasten to do it. 
The friends of the applicant inform us that he cannot make an amended declaration.

Yours respectfully
Fergus V. Treat

Com. Pensions
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Stamp:  
Received Sep 8 1939
Mail Sub-Div
Reader No. 5
Vets Adm
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Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2, Belleville, Ill.
Michael M. Baker, born 1753 in London; came to America, 1773; enlisted 1779, in Maj. Frederick 
Vernon's company, Col. David Broadherdin Pennsylvania troops, serving as sergeant; moved to Ohio and later to Green Co. Illinois, where he died 1831.  All available data wanted.

Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2, Belleville, Illinois
Michael Miller, came from Pennsylvania 1800 to Monroe Co., Illinois; served Virginia line. 

Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2., Belleville, Illinois
Peter Rogers, born New London, Conn., 1758, enlisted 1775, serving until a short time before the close of the war; served as fife major; was under Capt. William Cort; in battles of Monmouth and Germantown; under Capt Caleb Gibbs in General Washington's life guards, etc.; came to Monroe Co., Ill.; died there at Waterloo
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Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2., Belleville, Ill.
Jesse Stout, served in New Jersey; came to Illinois, settling in Morgan Co., buried probably in Scott Co.  Was pensioned and his widow drew pension.
Service record wanted; also names of wife and children and any other information.

Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2., Belleville, Ill.
Levy Teel, served under George Rogers Clark; came to Illinois; severely wounded by Indians; died Randolph Co., Illinois.
Names of wife and children and his service record wanted; all other data, as dates of birth, death, etc.

Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2., Belleville, Ill.
John White, b Stafford, Conn., 1761; enlisted four times; served under Capt. Abner Robinson; came to Wabash Co., Ill, where he died 9-2-1834; was pensioned.
Service record wanted, with names of wife and children and all other genealogical and military data.
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Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2., Belleville, Ill.
Joseph Wright, born Virginia, 1760 in Mecklenburg Co.; enlisted in March, 1780 for 3 mo. with Capt. John Thompson, Col. John Glenn's regiment; came to Monroe Co., Ill; applied for a pension.
Complete service record and other information including names of wife and children.

Daisy L. Whiteside
R.2., Belleville, Illinois
William Jones, born Dansbury, Bucks Co. Pa in 1774; enlisted in New Jersey line under Capt. John B. Scott; served also under Capt. John Seward and Gen. Putnam; came to Sangamon Co., Illinois; was pensioned.  Complete service record and names of wife and children wanted.
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R. 2, Belleville, Illinois
September 6, 1939
Veterans Administration,
Department of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs:
Enclosed are eight requests for records of Revolutionary war soldiers, all of which are to establish eligibility to membership in the Society of Daughters of the American Revolution.
I should greatly appreciate as complete records as you have, in each instance.
To the best of my knowledge, all received pensions or applied for pensions.
In some of the cases, I need names of wife and children; in others dates of death and complete service records; for these reasons I should like all such data for verification.  
Thanking you greatly for these services and for your kindly assistance in the past, I am
Most truly,
(Miss) Daisy L. Whiteside
Genealogist

Stamped: 
Received Sep 8, 1939 
Mail Sub-Div 
Reader No. 5
 Vets Adm
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Received
Sep 27 1939
Mail Sub-Div
Reader No. 3
Vets Adm
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R.2. Belleville, Illinois
September 23, 1939
Mr. A.D. Hiller, Executive Asst.
Veterans Administration
Washington, D.C.
Dear Mr. Hiller:
The records, for which I last wrote you of Revolutionary war soldiers, are so nearly of equal importance that it is almost impossible to decide which one I shall again ask you to furnish. 
Eight different persons are awaiting the completion of their applications for D. A. R. membership.  My supposition has been, that instead of separate letters of inquiry from each individual, or from myself for them, that it would be less difficult for your administration to answer a group at one time. 
I should like to explain that, aside from seeking assistance from others, that I do and have been doing since 1912, considerable gratis work for others in matters of research - among which are the complete marriage records of St. Clair Co., Illinois, from 1791 to 1845 (estimated at 25,000 records, typed, indexed and bound; copies of thousands of records copied from old cemetery stones and from old Bibles; old court records (wills, etc.)  These are in the D.A.R. Library in Washington, D.C. for use of the public.
In accordance with its charter from the United States government, our National Society publishes annually its records, which are of some use surely to the government, as many records, which have been lost from government files by fire, etc., have been reestablished by
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our society, besides many that were never recorded.
Personally, I have established quite a number of records - one of which is that of Joseph Trimeau, soldier under Lafayette.
Many of his descendants, scattered now over the entire country, had failed to find his record as they had the name of Shippy.  I learned, after much research, that after the close of the war, he decided to remain in this country and he took his mother's family name Shippy (Shippey).  Though family traditions were that their Shippy ancestor had served under Lafayette of Rochambeau, the records did not show a soldier named Shippy under either officer. 
I wrote to Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris, enclosed return postage and asked what the fee would be for the service record of Joseph Trimeau.  In less time than I thought possible to receive a reply, the complete record came without charge.  
The records of Michael M. Baker, William Jones and John White are of equal importance, but - I shall decide upon William Jones, hoping that names of wife and children are given for verification.
Very truly,
(Miss) Daisy L. Whiteside

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Lawrence Y. Sherman
Illinois
United States Senate,
Washington D.C.
June 20, 1917.

Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

Sir:
I have an inquiry regarding the military record of Abraham Lucas R6503, William Jones R5758 and Thomas James (none see neg) who were soldiers in the revolutionary war and were residents of Sangamon county, Illinois.  All were pensioned or made application for pension from that county.  I can give you no further data about their service, but would be glad if you could give me such information as 
is disclosed on your records concerning their service.
Very respectfully

L Y Sherman

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September 13, 1939
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Miss Daisy L. Whiteside
Route #2
Belleville, Illinois

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of eight pensioners of that war, Michael M. Baker, William Jones, Michael Miller, Peter Rogers, Jesse Stout, Levi Teel, John White and Joseph Wright. 
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data, and the limited trained clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is impossible to make for one person or organization a series of investigations and reports in regard to soldiers of that war.
If you will describe the one in whose record you are most interest, his record will be furnished you.
It may interest you to know that provision has been made by law for research workers to examine Revolutionary War claims for pension, in accordance with office regulations, and collect data therefrom.  This is the usual procedure in matters of extensive research.  You might designate some reliable person to do this work for you. 

Very truly yours

A.D. Hiller
Executive Assistant 
to the Administrator
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In the Revolutionary War pension claim, Rejected File No. 5758, William Jones alleges that he was born in Dansbury Township, Bucks County, Penn.  March 13, 1744 and while living at Black River, Sussex County, N.J., enlisted in Sept 1774 for one year in Capt. Scott's Co. of militia.  That he again enlisted in Oct. or Nov. 1775, in Capt. John Seward's Co.  Col. Ephraim Martin's Regt. for five months and after that served for eighteen months as waiting man for Gen. Putnam and that he was in the battle of White Plains.
On July 31, 1854, while residing in Sangamon County, Ills. he applied for pension but his claim was not allowed as he failed to furnish satisfactory proof of his alleged services, as required by the Act of June 7, 1832, under which he applied. 
There is no data on file as to his family and the date and place of his death are not of record. 
Very truly yours,
E. C. Tieman
Acting Commissioner

The first page of this letter is in Abram Lucas R. 6504 Penn.  
It is addressed to  
Hon. Lawrence Y. Sherman U.S.S.
dated June 22, 1917