Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R 11144, Jason Warner, New York
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SERVICE   |      |   NUMBER

New York   |   Warner, Jason   R11144

CPNTENTS
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New York  15 Janry  1852

To James E. Heath Esq.
Coms -  Pensions

Sir, 

My father, Jason Warner, late of Columbia County in this state, was a soldier of the revolution, and served some 3 or 4 years as a musician.  During President Van Buren's administration he applied for a pension on I know not what papers, but failed of his object.  I do not know who acted for him on the occasion, nor have I  been able to learn the reason of his disappointment. It was doubtly some clerical defect in the papers, for the fact of the service is beyond dispute.

Will you then be so obliging as to inform me, if you can, what the defect was, and when this pension would be if allowed in such a case. My father died I think in 1842.

Respectfully &b.

[signature] H. W. Warner
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Application of Jason Warner



Canaan
Columbia County
N.Y.
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State of New York
Columbia County Ss  On this 29th day of May A.D. 1835 personally appeared before the Justice of the Justices Court of the City of Hudson now sitting, Jason Warner of the Town of Canaan in said County, aged seventy five years who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7. 1832

That in the year 1775 being then fifteen years of age, he volunteered in the Company of Capt Aaron Kellogg, Regiment of Col W.B. Whiting, as piper [fifer?] of said Company; that some in the month of June of that year he was ordered out in said Company, as said piper, to march with a guard of soldiers to Albany with a number of tories under arrest They comitted the prisoners to the City Hall & then returned, having been in service about one week

Again in the fall of the same year, he was ordered out in the same company with the whole Regiment he things, to go to the north. They were mustered & marched some time in October to Albany & were Stationed at Greenbush[?] & were there discharged after a service of upwards of two weeks, & he thinks as near as he can recollect, about four weeks --

And this Deponent further Says that he received a warrant as piper Major in said Regiment at or about the beginning of the year 1776 as he can now but recollect - He can not say by whom the warrant was signed, but things by the Col. of the Regiment

That in the autumn of that year he was in service in the same company to Fort Edward; (he can not say positively but it was in Capt Elijah Bostwicks Company, same Regiment)
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as said fifer Major - He thinks they marched in the month of September by the way of Albany to Fort Edward, & returned home some time in November following, having been in service this time upwards of one month & he thinks nearly two months  While at Fort Edward they were under the Command of Gen Philip Schuyler --

Again the month of June of the year 1777 he was ordered out in said Kelloggs Company with one half of said Regiment to the north -- They marched via Albany to For Edward & thence to Fort George, & remained as & at Ft Edward tile relieved by the other half of the regiment, & returned home the latter part of July of the same year -- He was in service least six weeks at this title as fife Major.

Again in the year 1778 - he was ordered out in same company to go to Cherry Valley in the present county of Otsego -- They marched some time in September & returned home some time in November following -- while there they were under the command of Col Alden of Massachusetts who commanded a continental Regiment there, as he things --This company served as frequent guard two miles from the fort - - this Deponent served this time at least six weeks as a private soldier.

And this Deponent further says that during the whole of the year 1779 he was attached to a company of Grenadiers raised from the public service in Canaan aforesaid -- This Company was on duty all the while - they enlisted for the year & were kept in constant readiness to go at a minutes warning wherever duty called -- Capt John Hurlbut commanded the Company & Micah Jackson was a Lieutenant, & this deponent served the whole year as fifer

Again in the month of October of the year 1780 he went as a Volunteer in the Company of Capt Elijah Gostwick aforesaid to Palmenton[?] Saratoga County - only a Single Company went to help guard at the block House there, to defend the public from the Indians,  -- He was in service at this time two weeks as a private soldier

Again in October 1781 he was out in said Capt Kelloggs Company with the whole regiment as a private soldier at Bennington[?] near Hill[Still?] Water -- The Regiment were all ordered to go mounted - Three[?] companies were stationed when this deponent was, Capt Kelloggs & Bostwick & Kings -- & these were
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all mounted -- This deponent was in service this time 
1 month  |  one month at least -

Again in the years 1782 He was out in said Kelloggs Company to Fort Edward, but he cannot says how long at this time

And this deponent further says that he was in actual service during the Revolutionary war more than two years, according to his best recollection & belief -- but that he is unable to State the particular periods any more precisely than he has above stated, all of which periods he has Informed to State, as he has, not by possibility he might be mistaken in this memory - & he therefore pray a pension for the time thus specified --.

And he further says that he has no documentary evidence, nearing having received any written discharges

That he never received any commission other than the warrant above Stated, in which he was lost - He served his 3rd &I 4th Campaigns as fife Major

He recollects at Fort Edward General Schuyler, & Sterling - & also Brigadir Generals Glover, Nixon & Patterson

At Cherry Valley he recollects Col Alden, & LtCol Stacy - Col Alden was shot by the Indians a few days after this deponent left

At Bemis Heights Col Van Alstyne Militia officer from Kinderhook --

The officers of his own Regiment Col Wm B Whiting, Major Asa Douglas - Lt Col Asa Waterman

That since the Revolutionary war he was resided at Canaan where he now resides, except ten years, five of which he resided at Kinderhook, & five at the City of New York &I at Brooklyn

That the names of those to Whom he can refer the Department for information respecting his character, I& their belief as to his Revolutionary Services, are, John Whiting, John Hamilton Roswell B Frisbee, & Uriah Edwards & fifth others of the town of Canaan aforesaid - Also Joseph D Monell, John W Edmonds
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& Oliver Wiswall of the City of Hudson & particularly to Hon Martin Van Buren Vice President & Ben/jn F Butler Attorney General of the United States

That he has no other lviing witness of his said services than those herewith sent - to his present knowledge that he know of

That he hereby renounces all claim to any other pension or annuity than the present, & that his name is not on the pension Roll of the Agency of any State

[signature] Jason Warner

Subscribed & sworn to
the day & year aforesaid in Open Court

[signature] H Munger Clk

And the Said Court, after investigating the matter & putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war Department hereby declare their opinion that the above named applicant Jason Warner was a Revolutionary soldier & served as he states and further that it appears to them that John Whiting who was also sworn before then to the annexed affidavit is a man of strict veracity & his Statement entitled to credit
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Columbia County Ss  John Whiting of the town of Canaan in said County being duly sworn says that he is now seventy one years of age & has been acquainted with Jason Warner the above named applicant from his Childhood & knows that during the Revolutionary War Saw Warner was very frequently out in the service of the United States  This deponent was not out with him, but know him to have belonged to Capt Aaron Kellogs Company, & was reputed to be fife Major of Col Whitings Regiment  Col Whiting was the father of this deponent

and this Deponent further says that he has no doubt that Said Warner was in service all the time he has stated in his agbove declaration

[signature] John Whiting

Sworn in Open Court
May 29, 1835

[signature] H Munger Clk
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City of Hudson Ss  I Henry Munger Clerk of the Justices Court aforesaid, do certify that the foregoing contains the Original Proceedings before Said court in the matter of the application of Jason Warner for a pension

Witness my hand & seal of office
This 30th day of June A.D. 1835

[signature] H Munger Clk
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REJECTED

11.144

P.O. ____________________

Jason Warner

Service: __________________

Enlisted: ___________________, 18
Discharged: ________________, 18

Application filed: _____________, 18

Alleges: _________________________
__________________________________

Re-enlisted: _____________________
__________________________________

Attorney: _________________________
P. O. ______________________________
____________________________________
_______________ Recognized.   ____________Contract[t?]

____________ Cert. of Dis.   Searched for __________, 18
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H. N. Warner

May 26/53
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448
Pension Office.
26th May 1853.

Sir,

Yours of the 15th Jany 1853, has been received.

Jason Warner applicant for a pension in the years 1835, but failed to prove it, because he was unable to prove his services as a Revolutionary soldier.  He [avend?] that he Served as a fifer - If two years service had been proved he would have been entitled to a pension of Eighty eight dollars a year from the 4th March 1831 till his death - and at a proportional rate for any period of Service over Six Months.  Enclosed is the form of Declaration under the Acts of 1832. I& 1836.

H. W. Warner Esqr.
New York
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No 32846

New York

Jason Warner

Suspended

1833

[ Three lines crossed out ] 

Cpt[?] Honath[?] Van Brown [illegible]

A. Vanderpool  25 Feby [illegible]

H. W. Warner 26th May 1853.

[/crossed out]

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Mr Edwards\

The writer of his widow Jason Warner Egle[Esqr?] is a man of the [illegible x 2] respectability. I have Known him from his infancy. It was while friend[?]    [illegible] here or said to me as Albany a Statement of the difficulties in his case it will give me pleasure to communicate News to him 

Very respectfully yours

[signature] M Van Buren
? July 4 '95?

?/ J. L. Edwards
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To/

J. L. Edwards [Esq?]
Commissioner of
Pensions
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New York 26 Feb 1753

Jas E Heath Esq.

Sir,

I wrote you several weeks since respecting an application heretofore made by Jason Warner, a soldier of the revolution, for a pension Will you be so kind as to favour me with an answer to that letter.

Mr. W's application was made during the presidency of Mr. Van Buren. His service had been for 3 years or more. My object was to learn in which respect his papers were insufficient, and what would be
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the pension for a service of 3 years in the revolutionary war, upon satisfactory papers.

With respect' I am &c.

[signature] H W Warner
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War Department
Pension Office
July 9th 1835

Sir

In reply to your letter of the 4th instant disputing the Claim of Jason Warner, I have the honor to State that Mr Warner amount of his revolutionary Services is too indefinite to be admitted  The claimant appears to have fallen into the more[?] common to most failments of the kind, viz that of confounding the men readiness to Serve, with actual Service; It is allegen in his declaration that in 1779 has was attached to Captain John Hurlburts Company of Grenadiers. "on duty all the while" that they enlisted for a year and " were kept in Constant readiness to go at a Minutes Warning, whenever duty called" " But it is evident from the claimants own showing as with as from an abstract of the Treasurer accounts, by whom the pay roles of the Militia and
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State Troops of the State of New York were audited and failed in 1778. that Captain Hurlburts Company was not in actual Service at all To the tour at Fort Edward in 1776 it is objected that the amount of this Shows that it did not exceed twenty one days; The tour to Cherry Valley also does not appear to have [illegible] over fourteen days - The object of that at Bemis Heights in 1781 failed[?] to affirmal[/}

The fact that the claimant never received any pay for his Services would be presumptive evidence that he was not in actual Service at all

The papers except Mr Warners letter which is herewith returned are placed on file

Hon Martin Van Buren
Vice President
N. Y.
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Hon A Vanderpoel
20 Feby 1836
O C[?]





Rec. Vol. 38. pa 170.
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War Dept
Pension Off
Feby  26.

Sir

In reply to the letter of your correspondent W. Wilden (herewith returned) is eficting the case of Jason Warner, I have the honor to state that the claim was examined & suspended on 6 July last as communicated in my letter of that date to the Hon Martin Van Buren of which a copy is herewith enclosed



Hon. A. Vanderpoel
[illegible]  Rep[?]
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State of New York}
Columbia County} Ss

Reuben Olmsted of Canaan in the County of Columbia and State of New York being duly Sworn deposeth and Saith that in the year one thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy Five this deponant was at Fort Edward as a Soldier in the Revolutionary War and that Jason Warner with whom this deponant is well acquainted was a fifer in the regimant Commanded by Col William B Whiting this deponant Cannot recollect what length of time But from his best recollection and belief the Said Warner Served in the Capacity of Fifer for two months or more  Further this deponant Said that in June 1777 he this deponent was at Fort Edward and Fort George and that the Said Jason Warner was in Service at the Same time which was about two Months-- Deponent further Says that in 1776 Jason warner Served under Capt Aron Kellogg at Cherry Valley in the State of New York [illegible] for what length of time he Cannot recollect

Deponent further deposes that in 1779 the Said Jason Warner Served as Fife Major in a Grenadier Company about one year and that in 1781[?] he the deponint recollects that the Said Jason Warner was in Service at Bemis heights (near Still Water) under the Command of Capt Aron Kellogg -- term of Service from one to two months -
Further the deponent Saith that he is eighty two years of age - and further Saith not

[signature] Rueben Olmsted

Sworn and Subscribed
the 25th of June 1835

[signature] Uriah Edwards J Peace
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I Certify that the within named Reuben Olmsted is a person of respectability

Dated June 25 - 1835

[signature] Uriah Edwards Justice
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Jason Warner's
papers



Canaan
Columbia Co
N. Y.
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State of New York}
Columbia County} Ss

Lupton Warner of Canaan in the County of Columbia and State of New York being duly Sworn -- deposeth and Saith that Jason Warner went to [Garm Banh?] in 1775 as a Fifer under the Command of Capt Aron Kellogg - gone two or three Weeks -- further that in 1776 the Said Jason Warner was gone from his residence on a tour of duty under Command of Capt Aron Kellogg --return of time not recollected further Deponent recollects taht in 1777 that Jason Warner was on duty for two or three months under the Command of Capt Aron Kellogg at Fort Edward and other places  Deponent further Says that Jason Warner was at Cherry Valley under Command of Capt Aron Kellogg in 1778 as a fifer was gone from home he Verily believes two or three Months --

Deponent recollects that during the year 1779 - 1780. 1781 and 1782 the Said Jason Warner Served as a fifer but for for what length of time he Cannot now recollect -- part of the above year was a Fifer Major.  deponent is now Seventy Seven years of age -- further the deponent Saith not

[signature] Lupton Warner

Sworn and Subscribed}
before me June 25 - 1835}
Uriah Edwards J Peace}

I Certify that the above named Lupton Warner is a person of Credability

[signature] Uriah Edwards Justice
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[State] of new York}
Columbia County} Ss

Joseph Law of Canaan in the County of Columbia and State of New York deposeth that in the year 1781 or 1782 he the deponent was at Bemis heights near Still Water and that Jason Warner was at the Same time under the Command of Capt Aron Kellogg but for what length of time the deponent Cannot recollect But Verily believes that the Said Jason Warner was in Service at the time aforesaid from one to two months -- further that he the deponent is Eighty Six years of age and further Saith not --

[signature] Joseph Law

Sworn and Subscribed
Before me June 15_1895
[signature] Uriah Edwards Justice
of the Peace
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State of New York
Columbia County Ss  I James Storm Clerk of said County do Certify that Uriah Edwards before whom the within affidavits & certificates purport to have been taken, was at the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in & for said county - That I am acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe his name set to said affidavit, & certificates is his genuine signature

Witness my hand & seal of office
this first day of July A.D. 1835.

In the absence of James Storm
Richard Carrigen[?]
Deputy Clerk
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A Return of Teams hired & employed by Nehemiah Hubbard D.L.M.G. Augt 1st. 1779.

Conductors.   |   Number of Teams.   |   Wages of each Team to pay in dollars.   |   Conductors Subsistence to day.   |   Cooks wages pr day in dollars.   |   Amt of wages of each company p. day in Collars.   |   Amnt of wages of each company p. day in [illegible] L. Money.

Solomon Phelps   |   14   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   117   |   £ 35.2. -

Adriel Ely   |   12   |   8   |   2/2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   101   |   30.6. - 

Jabier Strong   |   12   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   101   |   30.6

Samuel Brown   |   10   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   85   |   25..10.. -

Samuel Wortham   |   12   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   101   |   30.. 6.. -

Bissell Phelps   |   14   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   117   |   35..2.. -

John Treadway   |   10   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   85   |   25..10.. -

Gershom Tuttle   |   15   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   125   |   37..10.. -

Roswell Ransom   |   12   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   2   |   101   |   30.. 6 .. - 

At Hartford without a Condr.   |   6   |   8   |   ---   |   ---   |   ---   |   48   |   14.. 8.. -

at Colchester without   do   |   4   |   8   |   ---   |   ---   |   ---   |   32   |   |   9..12.. -

Zedekh Morgan (Dansbury)   |   8   |   2 2/3   |   1/3   |   ---   |   67   |   20. 2,, - 
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   |   |   |   |  Errors Excepted   |  Dollr. 1080   |   £ 324.0.0 

[?] Nehem Hubbard
D.[?] M. G.

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