Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 31318, for John Ramsey, South Carolina
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(3-1776)
SERVICE
S. C. 
Ramsey, John
NUMBER
S. 31318
Born in S.C.
CONTENTS
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( left page ) 13.660 Kentucky  John Ramsey of Henderson Co. in the  State of Kentucky  who was a private in the Company commanded by  Captain Montgomery  of the regt commanded by __ in the S. Carolina militia  for 10 1/2 months from .. Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky  at the rate of 35 Dollars __ Cents per annum, to  commence on the 4th day of March 1831. Certificate of Pension  issued the 30 day of May  1833  and sent to John Boyle Henderson . Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $ 70  Semi -anl. allowance ending  4 Sep '33 $ 17.50 ( total $ 87.50 ) { Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 } Recorded by Wm. L Allison Clerk Book E. Vol. 7 Page 25 ( right page ) Date of death not on AB
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J. Ramsey's declaration with that of Jas. Nesbit  will entitle him  say 3 yrs service if endless to wit  to 10 Jne SC & also to full pens. by law  Congress of 32"
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[ State of Kentucky
County of Hopkins] ss.
On this 13th day of February 1832 personally appeared in open Court being a Court of Record for the County aforesaid and made
such by the laws of the State of Kentucky
aforesaid which created it John Ramsay
a resident in said County aged seventy three
years who being first duly sworn according to
law doth, on his oath make the following
declaration in order to obtain the provisions
made by the act of Congress, of the 18th March
1818, and the 1st May 1820 
that the the said John Ramsey enlisted for the term of six weeks at a time in the Militia on the
day of ___in the year 1774 in the State of South Carolina in the company commanded by John Barclay in the regiment Commanded by Colonel
Kershaw in the line of the State of South Carolina
in the Militia Establishment, that he continued to serve in the said Corps until the end of the war when he was discharged from the service in 1781 in the State of South Carolina; that he hereby
relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension
except the present; that his name is not
on the roll of any State except South Carolina
and that the following are the
reasons for not making earlier application
for a pension Viz, ignorance of the mode
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and  having no friend qualified to  direct me , And in pursuance to the  act of the 1st May 1820  I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States  on the 18th day of March 1818  and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof  with intent herby to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress entitled  " An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval  service of the United States in the Revolutionary War. " passed on the 18th day of March 1818 , and that I  have not nor has any person in  trust for me  , my property or security  , contracts or debts due to me , not have I any  income other that what is contained in the Schedule hereto  annexed and by me subscribed ; That since the 18th of March 1818  no  changes have been made in my property except one horse killed by Wilson Bottom & this reason was given in lieu thereof. Schedule  One mare $40, One bed $ 25, One do $ 20 , Bed curtains about $10 , One spinning wheel  $2.50  , Kitchen articles  about $ 15.00 ( total  $ 112. 50 ) John Ramsey ( signed )
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Sworn to and subscribed on the 13th day of January 1832 before the County Court of  Hopkins County Kentucky. I Samuel  Woodson clerk of the Court for the County of Hopkins  State of Kentucky do hereby certify that it appears to the satisfaction of the said Court that the said John Ramsey did serve in the Revolutionary War as stated in the preceding declaration  against the common enemy for the term of six weeks at a time under one engagement on the Militia Establishment. I also certify  that the foregoing declaration on oath  and Schedule thereto  annexed are truly copied from  the records of the said Court; and I do further certify that  it is the opinion of said Court , that the  total amount in value of the property  exhibited in the aforesaid  Schedule is one hundred  & twelve dollars and fifty cents. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at Madisonville on the 13th day of February  1832 & in the  40th year of the  Common wealth. Sam. Woodson ( signed / sealed )
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[ State of Kentucky  Count of Hopkins ] SS. Personally appeared before me Samuel Morton a Justice of the peace in  & for  the County and State aforesaid  James Nisbit of said County well know to  me to be man of respectable character & standing  and voluntarily made oath that John Ramsey  whose name is subscribed to the above declaration  on oath and Schedule of property did actually perform the military service in the war of the Revolution as  therein by him stated. Sworn to and subscribed before me a Justice of the peace in  & for Hopkins County  at Madisonville the Count seat of said County  Kentucky this 12th day of February 1832. James Nisbet ( signed )  attest Sam. Morton ( signed ) J.P.
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( post mark ) [ HENDERSON KY AUG 31 ] free Honorable Lewis Cass Secretary of War Washington  D.C. ( vertical notes ( PO Sept 18- 1832 ) ( 6958 Ky )
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State of Kentucky        ⎬ On this 27th day of 8th mo 1832 personally appeared in
Henderson County set⎬ open Court before the Hon able, the County Court
of Henderson Co. thy aforesaid John Ramsey aged 74 years
now sitting a resident in
Henderson County, State of Kentucky aforesaid, who, being first duly sworn
according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration
in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed "June 7th 1832"
that he entered the service of the United States under the following
named officers and served as herein stated that he engaged for
the term of 6 weeks at a time in the militia on the day (not remem
=ber  no month) in the year 1774 in the State of South Carolina
Henry Coffee Lieut John Barclay Coapt  Col Eli [illegible]
He went as a substitute for Jas. Moores his uncle from his
own County then Craven afterwards Lancaster-encamped on
[illegible] creek enemy at Reedy River that he served out the tour of 3
months, & took the Tories without a fire from them they being with out a commander,
Cuningham - Genl Richardson commanded the [illegible] & Sumpter was
our adjutant - went home & staid how long he don't remember 
He then was drafted & went out under Jas. Montgomery, Marched
to Charleston & from there to [illegible] town above Savanah 24 miles
heard the battle between the americans & British at Savanah 
served for 6 weeks & came home - After 2 weeks He was drafted
again to augusta, [illegible] - Henry Coffee was then our Capt & Eli [illegible]
was our Col   was out 6 weeks Majr  Ross was there killed by an Indian
 went home was drafted again under Sumter was at the seige of a ??
at Congaree was afterward at the battle at Col. Thompsons where
he was shot thru his left thigh took 16 wagons, & 60  British [illegible]
[illegible]   6 weeks out - he was in 2 battles on the east side of Cataba  after [illegible] has no [illegible]

person whose testimony he can produce  who
can testify to his services

[calulations of service]

hereby relinquishes and in whatsoever to a pension annuity
except the present and declare that his name is not on the pension
roll of the agency of any State

Sworn & subscribed the day 
& year aforesaid
John Ramsey
Thos McMullin
Jacob Newman
residing in the County of Henderson
State of Kentucky and Thomas McMuller residing in the same
do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Jno Ramsey
who has ascribed and sworn to the above declaration
that we believe him to be 74 years of age; that he is reputed and 
believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier
of the revolution, and we concur in that opinion - Sworn, & subscribed 
the day & year above
Jacob Newman
Thos [illegible]
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Interrogatories put to John Ramsey __applicant for a
pension by the Hon -ble , the County Court of Henderson, Jly_

Question No 1_ where & in what year were you born? In Lancaster [illegible] in 1758

2_ Have you any record of your age & if so  where is it? record lost

3_ Where were you living, when called into service, where have you
lived since the Revolutionary war, & where do you now live.
I entered the service in now called Lancaster Co-- lived in Tennessee-- some time
in Union, & Hopkins    I now in Henderson -

4_ How were you called into service, were you drafted; did you
Volunteer; or were you a substitute? and if substitute for whom?
I was a substitute for my uncle T_Moore & served for 6 weeks in 1774 or 5 can't recollect well, after. drafted & served till the year 1781__

5   State the names of some of the regular officers, who were with
the troops where you served; such continental & militia
regiments as you can recollect, & the general [illegible] of yr service
Genl Williamson commanded the regulars near Augusta or [illegible]
side of savannah [illegible] Major Ross was killed by the Indians on the Georgia side [illegible]
6_ Did you recceive a discharge from the service andif so, by
whom was it given, and What has become of it?

Ans  All discharged & allowed to go home
we brought a no. of  English prisoners near where I lived, & [illegible]

7  State the names of persons to whom you are known in your
present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character
for veracity  & their belief of your services, as a soldier of the revolution
Answer_ I am well known to George_ W. King & Jno Green-- 2 of the
magistrates of our County, Williamson Cruise & many others_
and the said Court__ do hereby declare their pension after
the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories  prescribed by the war department that the
above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and
served  as he states- and the Court further certifies
that it appears to them that [illegible] sho has signed the 
preceding Certificate is a
resident in said County of Henderson Ky and that
Thomas W. McMullan - who has also signed the same is
resident of said County of Henderson, [illegible] are credible
[illegible], and that their statement is entitled to credit
I know  all men by these presents that I John Ramsey,
of Henderson County do hereby nominate, constitute, and
appoint John Boyle of Henderson County Ky aforesaid
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to be my true and lawful attorney in fact in my name
and for me to demand and receive from the Secretary
of the Treasury of the United States whatever pay may be
coming to me from the "4th day of March 1831" to "4th day of
March 1832," and also a certificate to enroll my name
name on the roll of the Kentucky agency for semi annual
payments, payable at Louisville U S. Branch Bank
(if it please the secretary at war) in as much as Lexington
is an  [illegible] place, and will subject me to great delay
& enormous Expenses in the transmission of certificate &
returns of it & other papers, &c, &c; and other substitute
or attorneys under him, the said John Boyle to nominate
& appoint for the special purposes above Expressed.
Given under my hand this 27th August 1832 
signed
          his
John   X     Ramsey
           mark

The foregoing power of Attorney from John Ramsey __& to
John Boyle was this day duly acknowledged by said John
Ramsey _before the Honble, the County Court of Henderson
Kentucky to be his act and deed for the purposes therein mention
Clks [illegible] Clerks Certificate
I William F. Anderson [illegible]
Clerk of the Court of this County of Henderson, in State of Tenn of 
aforesaid , do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original 
proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application
John Ramsey_ for a pension

In testimony whereof,
I have hereunto at my hand and seal of the office this 7th day of Augt 1832

Will D. Allison

SEAL

[illegible]
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State of Kentucky
Henderson County  
Personally appeared before me the undersigned, a Justice of peace in and for Henderson County Ky aforesaid, who being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he could not swear positively the precise length of all his services, when he made his first declaration to obtain a pension by the Law of June 7th 1832, but meeting with his brother, Alexander Ramsey since, who refreshed his memory, he is now enabled to declare on oath that his services for seven months, and two weeks as by said first declaration were truly there stated - that besides he served one other tour of 4 weeks under General Sumpter at the Hanging Rock battle, that he served one other tour of 5 weeks under Gen Davidson in 
North Carolina at the time, when Ferguson was defeated on King's Mountain, that he served one other tour of 4 weeks under Col Davy on the Waxhaw Creek; that for several Services of 3 months at one time & 3 weeks at different times in all ten months 
and 3 weeks he claims a pension.

That  Gen'l Jackson, himself may well remember his Robt Ramsey, & him, on Waxhaw Creek -Camden S.C.  while president Jackson was living at major Rob't Crawford's that he well remembers travelling with Genl Jackson and Major Crawford after the peace, as far as Camden on 
their way to Charleston when his brother, Alex Ramsey & he lay at Gum Swamp - and Gen'l J & Major Crawford at Major Nettles - that said deponent knows of no Clergyman who could testify to the general belief of his services but provides the testimony of Jacob Newman, former Sheriff
of Henderson Co. Ky & Tho. McMullin Esqr whose son is a Captain & Justice of peace of the same -

signed sworn and d subscribed before me this 2 day of April 1833- Given under my hand the day & year above
John D. Anderson J.P.
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State of Kentucky 
Henderson County  
I, William Dick Allison, Clerk of the Court of Henderson County, and State of Kentucky aforesaid do certify that John D. Anderson Esquire before whom the foregoing declaration of John Ramsey
on oath was made - in addition to his former declaration before a County Court of 27th August 1832. in order to obtain a pension on the Law of Congress of 7th June 1832 was, and is a Justice of the peace in and for Henderson Kentucky aforesaid duly commissioned to administer oaths, and take acknowledgments &c &c in said County of Henderson, my that full faith & credit is due to all his official acts as such and that the above appears to me to be his genuine signature;.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed my official seal at  Henderson the County seat of Henderson County, Kentucky this 2nd day of April 1833
Will D Allison Clerk
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Hon. The Secretary at war will be good enough to submit this if deemed expedient to the revision of the president himself & favor us with a prompt account of the issue
Respectfully
John Boyle

Hend'n Ky 1st 4th Mo. 33-
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John Ramsey
531318

John Ramsey, the son of Robert, was born in 1758 in Craven (later Lancaster) County, South Carolina.

While residing in said Craven County, he enlisted sometime in 1775, served at various times on short tours until 1781, about ten months and three weeks in all as a private under Captains John Barclay, James Montgomery, Henry Coffee, Colonels Kershaw and Davie in the South Carolina troops, and was at the siege of a fort on Congaree, at the battle at Colonel Thompson's, at the battle of Hanging Rock and in two battles on the east side of the Catawba River. He stated that on one tour, he served as a substitute for his uncle. James Moore.
[handwritten reference in second paragraph re dates]
He  said 1774 or1775 but did not use 1774 as there was no organization of troops in SC prior to 1775
[handwritten reference in second paragraph re officers]
He said Col Eli Kershaw but as he was never a colonel it was probably Joseph Kershaw, I omitted Christian names
[typed]

After the Revolution, he moved to the state of Tennessee and lived for some time, then lived in Union and Hopkins Counties, state not given.

He was allowed pension on his application executed February 18, 1832, while residing in Hopkins County, Kentucky, in March of same year, he was residing in Henderson County, that state.

It is not stated that soldier was ever married.

In 1883, he referred to his brother, Alexander Ramsey.

There are no further family data.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Ramsey (S.31318), you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following data:

John Ramsey, Certificate No. 13660, issued May 30, 1833, rate $35 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Kentucky Agency.
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31318
Revy INVALID
File No. 31818
John Ramsey
Pri Rev War

Act: June 7th 32
Index: -- Vol. 2, Page 333

[Arrangement of 1870.]


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1913 Dec. 17 History to Miss Mary V. Clark C
1933, Sept 30. Hist to Mrs H E Thixton EET
see letter in case of Edward & Baldwin, R445
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John Ramsey
Kentucky
from private 10 pr month
$35



John Boyle
Henderson, Ky
[illegible]
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Charleston High School
MARY VIRGINIA CLARKE
Latin and German

Charleston, Mo., December 1913.

Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:-- Am enclosing your letter of Dec. 1 which is evidently not the John Ramsey whose history I desire to trace. Will you please verify the statements in the letter of John W Fraser which I enclose?
Pensioned in Henderson Co Ky born in NC served as major wounded in service

Thanking you for an early reply
I am
Respectfully yours,
(Miss) Mary V. Clarke

Letter dated Nov. 25, 1913 asked for John Ramsey and wife Elijah 

[stamp]
US PENSION OFFICE
D DEC 12 1913
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In reply to your request of _____ received ______ for a statement of the military history of John Ramsey a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his application for pension on file in this Bureau. S. File 2318.

DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  LENGTH OF SERVICE.
Believe 1774 & 1781 he served short periods at various times amounting to 10 months

RANK.
[not indicated]

OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN.
John Barclay
James Montgomery
Henry Coffee
COLONEL.
Eli Kershaw

STATE.
SC

Battles engaged in, seige of Fort Congaree, Hanging Rock, battle at Col. Thompson's
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Craven Co. SC afterwards called Lancaster Co.
Date of application for pension, Feb 13 1832 his claim was allowed
Residence at date of application, Hopkins Co. Ky Aug 1832 Henderson Co. Ky
Age at date of application, born 1758 Craven Co. S.C.  son of Robert
Remarks: To Auditor for last pay & time paid

Respectfully,
Commissioner.
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September 30, 1933
XXXXXXXXXXXX
BA-J/MMHF/EEL

Mrs. H.E. Thixton
Henderson
Kentucky

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of William Frazier, William Turpin, Pierce Noland, John Ramsey and Edward Baldwin, all of Henderson County, Kentucky, and all pensioners.

As stated in letter to you on March 22, 1930, the records of this office do not show claims for pension or bounty land on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of William Frazier, as described by you, or of William Turpin and Pierce Noland. The land and pension to which you refer may have been granted by the state of Virginia.

The records of one Edward Baldwin or Bauldwin, of Kentucky and a John Ramsey have been found and are given herewith as shown in the respective claims for pension based upon their services in the Revolutionary War.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator.
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Edward Baldwin
R.445

Edward Baldwin (the name is also shown as Baldwin) was born October 16, 1766, in Pittsylvania County, Virginia, and moved to Caswell County, North Carolina, date not given

While residing in said Caswell County, he enlisted in 1782, and served twelve months in Captain Rhodes' Company, Colonel Lytle's North Carolina Regiment.

He was allowed pension on his application executed September 1, 1832, while residing in Hopkins County, Kentucky.

He died in said Hopkins County, on September 17, 1841, as shown on an official paper in the pension claim or September 18, 1841, as stated by soldier's widow.

The soldier married August 27, 1786, Drusilla Trigg. They were married at the home of her mother, Mary Price, in Caswell County, North Carolina.

Drusilla Baldwin died June 27, 1846, leaving four children, as follows:
Mary Hill
Hiram Baldwin in 1851, aged fifty-seven years and residing in Hopkins County, Kentucky.
Herbert Baldwin
Nancy Baldwin.

In 1843, soldier's brother, Henry Baldwin, resided in Henderson County, Kentucky and in same year, the widow's brother, Joshua Trigg, resided in same county.

There are no further family data.