Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 21,191, John Farmer, S.C.
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(8-1776)
SERVICE
S.C. Farmer, John 

NUMBER
S.21191

Born Va Carded
CONTENTS
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Pension Certificate

South Carolina 16.121
John Farmer
at Greenville in the State of South Car [South Carolina]
who was a pri [Private] : in the (blank) commanded by Captain (blank) of the Regt [regiment] commanded by Col. Fair in the South Car [South Carolina]:
line for 12 months

Inscribed on the Roll of South Car [South Carolina]:
At the rate of 40 Dollars (blank) Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 8th day of July ‘33 and sent B. F. Perry Greenville C.H. S.C.

Arrears the 4th of March ‘33 -                      80
Semi-anl. Allowance ending 4 Sept “ - 20
                                                                                                                                $100
{Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Wm. Miller. Clerk
Book E. Vol. 6 Page 67
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Set to S. A Waly, Nov 13 1835
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John Farmer
15.318
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South Carolina
Greenville District}

On this the tenth day of October 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Judge of the Court of Common Pleas and General Sessions now sitting John Farmer a resident of Greenville District in the state of South Carolina age seventy six years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.

That he entered the service of the [illegible] under the following named officers and served as herein stated. He entered the service in the spring of the year in which Corn Wallace [Cornwallis] was defeated at York Town, under Captain Blossengam and Colonel Fair and Colonel Bannan he served three tours of three month each and [illegible] monthly tour in [illegible] guarding the magazines of [illegible] block house which all together he thinks amounts to one year service. The first tour he served at "Thirty Six" under the offices above state. General Pickens had command of the station at ninety six. The British were [illegible] at ninety-six during that time under Col [illegible] [Illegible} he served at Ancrum Ferry under Colonel Fair and Captain James Crawford, [illegible] he served in an expedition against the Indians under lieutenant Blossengam and Col Fair. March the [illegible] of the Right [illegible] River and returned. [Illegible] in [illegible] where he [illegible] South Carolina was [illegible] my time. Was in no battles-did not [illegible]
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continental regiments, does not recollect buy with any regular officers. Has no papers. His brother Shadrack Farmer can testify as to his service and tour at [illegible] Henry was born in Halifax County Virginia in the year "fifty seven" has no record of his age has lived in South Carolina since the Revolutionary except two years in Oglethorpe, Georgia and now lives in Grenville District never received a discharge. George Green [illegible] [illegible] lived in his neighborhood and can testify to his good character for truth and charity and his believe in his service.  He hereby relinquishes all claim whatever to pension or annuity except the present and [illegible] that his name is not on the pension roll of any state or agency of the state.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year above stated.
J McDaniel CCN [signature]
John Farmer His x mark 

We Thomas Hutching clergyman resident in Greenville District and Lewis Sudduth also a resident of the same district hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Farmer who has subscribe and swore to the above declaration that we believed him to be seventy six years of age that he is reputed and believed to [illegible] Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year [illegible]
J McDaniel CCD [signature]
Thos. Hutching [signature]
Lewis Sudduth [signature]
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and the said court does hereby declare this opinion of this [ illegible] of the matter and after pulling the questions presented by the war department that above named applicate was a soldier of the revolution and that he was [illegible] and the court further certifies that [illegible] [illegible] that Thomas Hutchinson who was signed the proceeding certificate is a clergy [illegible] resident of Greenville and that  [illegible].whose name is [illegible] is a resident of the same & is true [illegible] credible person and that this statement is worthy of credit.
Richard Gautt

I James McDaniel Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas and Gerneral Sessions do hereby certify that the forgoing contains those original proceedings in the matter of the application of John Farmer for a pension. The testimony whereof I have [illegible] with my hand and seal of office Act 10 1832
J McDaniel C.C.P
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No 15318
John Farmer Greenville District South Carolina
Admit as private
12 mo $40
14
Int. 12
April 18 '33

B.F. Purg Greenville District S. Carolina
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BRIEF in the case of John Farmer
District of Greenville in the State of South Carolina
(Act 7th June, 1832.)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court
2 If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? [blank]
3. How old is he? 76 years
4.  State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period. Drafted In 1781
Duration of Service 1 year
Rank As a private
Names of Generals and Field Officers under whom he served. 
Gen Pickens, Col Cruger, Cap Blossingham, col Fair, Col Bannan
5. In what battles was he engaged? none
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Union County South Carolina
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? [illegible] & traditionary
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? correct
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
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John Farmer
NR
[illegible]
Thos. L. Hillbee [signature]
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State of South Carolina
Greenville District

Personally appeared Joil Farmer a resident of the District and State aforesaid and made oath in due form of Law that he is a son of John Farmer who was a Revolutionary soldier and Pensioner of the United States and died in Greenville District S.C. on 6th day of July 1838 and that he does hereby constitute and appoint George C Ames Esq of Washington city his agent and attorney to examine the papers on which his fathers Pension was granted and if there be found anything due to prosecute the same before the Department  having charge of the same.
Witness my hand & Seal this 9 day of April 1857 
Joil Farmer [seal]
Attest Jas P Foster
Wm Johnson
Signed Sealed acknowledged and sworn to me the undersigned a magistrate in the District of Greenville S.C. this 9 day of April 1857
Wm Cunningham M.G.D.
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John Farmer
papers
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South Carolia
Greenville Dist [District]]
Personally came before me the subscribing Justice Shadrack Farmer and being duly sworn makes oath that he knows of John Farmer serving one three month tour at Ancrum Ferry under Captain James Crawford and Colonel William Fair in the year that Cornwallis was taken prisoner at York Town. That this deponent was with him in the same company and they he had good reason to believe that he rendered other services and that he knows him to have been a true and faithful friend to his country. 
Sworn to and subscribed Oct 11 1832
Shadrack Farmer his x mark
L McDaniel C.C. D Ex. Off. J.Q

[illegible] affidavit was sworn to and duly [illegible] in my presence before the proper authority October 11th 1832
J McDaniel 6.6
I James McDaniel t the magistrate before whom the above affidavit was made by Shadrack Farmer do hereby certify that he is a worthy and credible witness. Signed under my hand and seal of office April 6, 1833
J McDaniel C.C.P
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December 17, 1937
BA-J/ ady
John Farmer
S.21191

Mrs. Remus R. Henderson
570 Calhoun Street
Anderson, South Carolina

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter relative to Shadrack Farmer and John Farmer, soldiers of the Revolutionary War.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited trained clerical force available for furnishing such information it is impossible to comply in full with each request pertaining to soldiers of that war.
The date contained herein were obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War clam for pension, S.21191, based upon the miliary service of John Farmer in that war.
John Farmer was born in 1757 in Halifax County, Virgina, day, month, and the names of his parents are not shown.
While a resident of Union, South Carolina, he enlisted in 1781 and served three tours of three months each and several monthly tours in South Carolina troops, under Captain Blossingam, James Crawford, and Colonels William Fair and Bannan.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 10, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Greenville District, South Carolina. 
After the Revolutionary War he lived three years in Oglethorpe, Georgia.
He died July 6, 1838, in Greenville District, South Carolina.
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John Farmer's sone, Joil (?) Farmer was living in Greenville District, South Carolina in 1857, his age not given.  There are no further family data and no reference was made to soldier's wife.
Very truly yours
A. D. Hiller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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Revolution
21191
INVALID
File No. 21191
John Farmer
Revolutionary War
Act: June 7th 82
Index:-Vol. 2, Page 138
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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1928 May 25 Hist to Mrs TJ Jones  avg sel
letter in Thomas Hubbard avg
1928 Sept 24 Hist. to Mrs. LeRoy C Harris   ADM
1929 July 18 Hist. to Mrs. JA Montford ADY
1937 Dec 17. Hist. to Mrs Remus H Henderson ADY
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John Farmer
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Farmer which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicate resides? Yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes
III. If the applicate did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? [blank]
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes
VIII. Has the court given their opinion? Yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Yes
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for no obtaining it? [blank]
XIII. If the applicate has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof can be had? Witness
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? [blank]
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? No
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? Yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? Yes
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as to regulations direct? Yes
XII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 1.2
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
*Quere V. In a case were the applicate cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, Qc. A. B. who being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the period mentioned below, and in the following grades; For_____ year _______ months and _______days, I served as a ___________; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pensions to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and his length the of his service.  The use of the phrase qualifying   about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of declaration is highly objectionable.  It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service-by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
+QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
++ QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
 In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto to by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
  In every case where the clerk of court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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[Circular postage stamp]
CLARKSVILLE Ga NOV 2

FREE
From [blank]
To: Hon Lewis Cass
Sec'y [Secretary] of War
Washington City
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Clarksville Georgia
1st Nov 1855

[Illegible] Lewis Cass
Sec'y [Secretary] of War
Washington

Sir,
Mr John Farmer formerly of South Carolina now of this county is on the Pension Roll of South Carolina as a private in the War of the Revolution. His certificate is under date of 8th July 1833. He draws his pension in Charleston owing to it manifest [illegible] attending on his obtaining his semiannual payment in Charleston. He is desirous that his right should be transferred to this state so that he can get his pension in Savannah. 
If no other steps on [illegible] pay please send me a Certificate of transfer for this old man. [Illegible] thing is [illegible] before it can be done. Please inform me what it is.
I have the honor to be your obi-fort [obedient servant]
Saml. [Samuel] A. Wales
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13 Nov. 1835.
Pension Office

SC


16121
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John Farmer of Va Rev Sol moved to Greenville district of S.C. 1805  and in 1817 to Oglithorpe Co Ga

This is one of several slips that came from Mrs. T.J. Jones, 19 Jefferson St. Newman, Ga.

See her letter in Rev from claim S17227.  AWF
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207 Doyle St
Toccoa, Ga
Nov 28, 1724
Commissioner of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen,

Did John Farmer of Virginia receive a pension or land grant for service in the Revolutionary War.
Did Joseph Chandler of Virginia or S.C. receive a pension or land grant in Georgia for service in the Revolutionary War.

Thanking in advance for your kindness,

I am yours truly,
Mrs. LeRoy C Harris,
204 Doyle St
Toccoa,
Ga
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[postage stamp]
PENSIONS OFFICE
MAR 25 1929
U.S.

Cartersville, Ga
March 22 -'29
Commissioner of Pensions:-
Dear Sir,
Please send me the "Revolutionay War" record of my ancestor, John Farmer, who was granted land for service, 460 acres, in Franklin Co. Ga.; on Aug 7th 1786, under Thos. Harris Adj.  Will greatly appreciate any information.
Sincerely,
Mrs. J.H. Monfort
Cartersville, Ga.
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Mrs. Remus H. Henderson
570 Calhoun Street
Anderson, South Carolina

12/6/1937
Mr. H.D. Hilles, Executive Assistant,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:
  Please give me information on the Rev war records of Shodrack and John Farmer, Greenville Dist; S.C. who were pensioned July 8, 1833.
I am very anxious to know the names of their wives & sons, as I am a descendant of these soldiers.
Yours very truly,
(Mrs. R.H.) Essie Farmer Henderson
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July 18, 1929

Mrs. J. A. Monfort, 
Cartersville, 
Georgia

Dear Madam: 
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 21191, it appears that John Farmer was born in "the year fifty-seven" in Halifax County, Virginia. 
While residing in Union, South Carolina, he enlisted in 1781 and served three tours of three months each and several monthly tours with the South Carolina Troops, under Captains Blossingam(?) and James Crawford, Colonels William Fair and Bannan.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 10, 1832 at which time he was living in Greenville District, South Carolina.
He stated that after the Revolution he lived three years in Oglethorpe, Georgia. He died July 6, 1838 in Greenville District, South Carolina.
Son, Joil (?) Farmer was living in Greenville District, South Carolina in 1857.
There are no further data as to children and no data
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as to wife.
The above noted John Farmer is the only soldier of that name, found on the Revolutionary War records of this bureau, who was from Georgia.
Very truly yours,
Karl D. Church,
Commissioner.
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September 24, 1928.
Mrs. LeRoy C. Harris,
207 Doyle Street,
Toccoa, Georgia.

Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 21191, it appears that John Farmer was born in "the year fifty-seven" in Halifax County, Virginia. 
While residing in Union, South Carolina, he enlisted in 1781 and served three tours of three months each and several monthly tours with the South Carolina Troops, under Captains Blossingam (?) and James Crawford, Colonels William Fair and Bannan.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 10, 1832 at which time he was living in Greenville District, South Carolina.
He stated that after the Revolution he lived three years in Oglethorpe, Georgia. He died July 6, 1838 in Greenville District, South Carolina.
Son, Joil (?) Farmer was living in Greenville Dis-
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trict, South Carolina in 1857.
There are no further data as to children and no data as to wife.
The Revolutionary War records of this bureau fail to afford any information in regard to Joseph Chandler as described by you.
In order to obtain information relative to land that may have been granted by the state from which John Farmer and Joseph Chandler served, you should consult the archives at the capital of that state. 
Respectfully,
Winfield Scott,
Commissioner.
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Mrs. T. J. Jones
19 Jefferson St.
Newnan, Ga

Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 21191, it appears that John Farmer was born in "the year fifty-seven" in Halifax County, Virginia. 
While residing in Union, South Carolina, he enlisted in 1781 and served three tours of three months each and several month tours with the South Carolina Troops, under Captains Blossingam (?) and James Crawford, Colonels William Fair and Bannan.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 10, 1832 at which time he was living in Greenville District, South Carolina. 
He stated that after the Revolution he lived three years in Oglethorpe, Georgia. He died July 6, 1838 in Greenville, District, South Carolina.
Son, Joil (F) Farmer was living in Greenville Dis-
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triot, South Carolina in 1857.
There are no further data as to children and no data as to wife.
Owing to the very large number of similar in-quiries and the lack of a clerical force available for the purpose the Bureau is unable to make the imme-diate reply to each inquiry pertaining to the soldiers of the Revolution, and only two histories are fur-nished each inquiry.
Respectfully, 
Winfield Scott
Commissioner.