Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8,297, for Joseph Pogue, North Carolina
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

[3-1776] 

SERVICE
N. C.
Pogue, Joseph
           Nancy

NUMBER
R. 8297

CONTENTS
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peace was made between the Colonies and Great Brittian’s [Britain’s] declarant has no discharge or other Revolutionary paper in her possession as evidence of the services of her said husband, they having been lost. She further states that she was married to the said Joseph Pogue about the year 1782 or 1783 by John Hamier Eqr [Esquire] in Caswell County North Carolina, and that her name before her said marriage was Nancy Harper (and that her brother Richard Harper who was a soldier in the Revolution, and in his life time drew a pension) that her said husband died in Jefferson County Tennessee about the year 1834 or 1835, and that she is now his widow that she has no private family record of their marriage. 

Declarant further states that her said husband a short time before his death went to Greenville Tennessee to have a declaration prepared to send to the pension office, and that John Price and Thomas Bryant who were Revolutionary pensioners went with him as witnesses to prove that he actually performed services in the said war of the Revolution, but unfortunately they did not find the person or agent they went to see, and they returned without having made out the Declaration and the proof of his services to forward to the pension office to obtain his pension, and shortly thereafter he died very suddenly without further effort to obtain pension. And declarant has kept putting it off and off until she has become quite old feeble and infirm, and her recollection very indistinct before she makes an application for a pension; and now she makes this declaration which is the first for the purpose of obtaining
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State of Tennessee} 
Jefferson County} On this 12th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty nine [1859] personally appeared before me an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid Nancy Pogue aged about ninety-five years, a resident of Jefferson County, Tennessee, who being duly sworn according to law, declares that she is the widow of Joseph Pogue deceased, who was a horseman or belonged to a Company of Dragoons in the War of the Revolution for Independence of 1776. That the said Joseph Pogue joined the American Army towards the close of the war in Orange or an adjoining County North Carolina. That declarant does not know certainly the company or No. to which he was attached, nor does she know certainly the names of the officers under whom her said husband served; but declarant has heard her said husband speak of Captain Willis Span and Captain James Farquar [James Farquhar] when speaking of the Revolutionary Army and incidents relating thereto, and of his own services, and she thinks it likely they were out at the same time, and were in the same service that her husband was, if they were not or one of them his Captain. Declarant has heard her said husband frequently in his lifetime say that he was in three different engagements or battles in the Revolutionary War that he never received any pay for his services, & that he lost a mare in one of the battles in which he was engaged, and also his saddle to which he never received any compensation or remuneration. 
Declarant has the impression that she heard her husband say that he was in a battle at Guilford Court house [March 15, 1781]. That her said husband was in the actual service of the American Army when
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peace was made between the colonies and Great Britain. Declarant has no discharge or other revolutionary paper in her possession or evidence of the services of her said husband they having been lost. She further states that she was married to the said Joseph Pogue about the year 1782 or 1783 by John Warnier Esqr [Esquire] in Caswell County North Carolina, and that her name before her said marriage was Nancy Harper (and that her brother Richard Harper [S.1908] was a soldier in the Revolution, and in his lifetime drew a pension) that her said husband died in Jefferson County Tennessee about the year 1834 or 1835, and that she is now his widow -- that she has no private family record of their marriage. 

Declarant further states that her said husband a short time before his death went to Greenville Tennessee to have a declaration prepared to send to the pension office, and that John Price [S.5953] and Thomas Bryant [W.3503] who were Revolutionary pensioners went with him as witnesses to prove that he actually performed services in the said War of the Revolution, but unfortunately they did not find the person or agent they went to see, and they returned without having made out the Declaration and the proof of his services to forward to the pension Office to obtain his pension -- And shortly thereafter he died very suddenly without further effort to obtain a pension -- And Declarant has kept putting it off and off until she has become quite old, feeble and infirm, and her recollection very indistinct before she makes an application for a pension; and now she makes this Declaration which is the first for the purpose of obtaining
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a pension, and the pay her said husband was entitled to for his services, and for the loss of his mare and saddle, as she may be entitled, under the Acts of Congress. 
Nancy [her x mark] Pogue
Test: 
Thos. Jackson
A. B. Keele 

Thomas Jackson a resident of Greene County Tennessee and A. B. Kelle a resident of Hankins County Tennessee upon our oaths declare that the foregoing Declaration was signed by the declarant making her mark and acknowledged by Nancy Pogue in our presence, and that we believe from the appearance and statements of the applicant, that she is the identical person she represents herself to be. And affiant Thomas Jackson further states that he became acquainted with Joseph Pogue and Nancy Pogue in North Carolina about thirty four years ago and that shortly afterwards they removed to Tennessee, and about 1834 or 1835 the said Joseph Pogue died and left Nancy Pogue his widow and that affiant has known her well ever since. And that she is still his widow. Affiants both knew Joseph Pogue in his life time and from his appearance they would think he was old enough to have been in the Revolutionary War as they have no doubt he was and they are disinterested in this application for a pension. 
Thos Jackson
AB Kelle 

The foregoing declaration and affidavit were sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written; and I certify that
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I know the affiants to be creditable persons; that the claimant is the person she represents herself to be, and that I have in interest in this claim. 
Isaac P Haun J.P. 
for Jefferson County Tennessee 

State of Tennessee} 
Jefferson County} I James M. Nicholson Clerk of the County Court of said County in the State aforesaid do hereby certify that Isaac P. Haun Esqr [Esquire] whose genuine Signature appears to the foregoing certificate, and before whom the foregoing declaration of Nancy Pogue and affidavit of Thos. Jackson and A. B. Keele were sworn to, was at the time of signing the same a Justice of the Peace, in and for said County and State, duly elected commissioned and qualified, and that all his Official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit.

And that the aforesaid County Court is a court of Record having general Jurisdiction, and that I have no interest in this claim. 
Witness my hand and seal of Office at Office in Dandridge this 15th day of January 1839. 
James M. Nicholson Clerk 
of County Court of said County State of Tennessee

[written sideways] Declaration of Nancy Pogue
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State of Tennessee}
Greene County} On this 15th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty nine [1859] personally appeared before me an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid John Pogue a citizen of Jefferson County Tennessee, aged near fifty years, and makes oath in due form of Law - that he is the son of Joseph and Nancy Pogue -- his father died about twenty four [24] years ago in Jefferson County Tennessee – That Nancy Pogue affiants mother is still living and is the widow of the said Joseph Pogue, decd [deceased]. Affiant knows the fact that his father and mother removed from the state of North Carolina to the State of Tennessee about the year 1825; and that from the reputation their ancestors were living in the State of North Carolina before the Revolutionary war - that affiants father was old enough to have been in said war. Affiant frequently in the life time of his father heard him speaking of the incidents of the Revolution and the history of his own life as connected therewith-- that he has heard his father often times speak of being in said Revolutionary War And heard him speak familiarly about the Battle of the Cowpens of the 17th January 1781 is though he was
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he was in said Battle, but affiant is not certain whether his father said he was in said battle or not though his impression is he was. Affiant know certainly that he heard his father say that he was in the Battles in the Revolutionary war. That in one of them he lost a fine mare and saddle for which he never recd [received] any compensation. And that he never received any pay for his services. 

Affiant has frequently heard his father speak of the engagement at Guilford Courthouse which was fought on the 15th of March 1781- and affiant believes that his father was in that Battle. Affiant thinks his father belonged to the North Carolina Militia. Affiant is of the impression that his father was a portion of the time under the command of Gen. Greene, from the familiar manner in which he spoke of the services of Gen. Greene. 

Affiant heard John Price and Thomas Bryant who were Revolutionary pensioners in their life time say that affiants father was entitled to receive a pension for his services in said Revolutionary war - And Affiant knows that said John Price in the life time of affiants father went with him the sd [said] Joseph Pogue to prove the actual services of the said
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Joseph Pogue, but that the man or agent who they went to see at Greeneville Tennessee was not to be found on that day and so they returned without having made out the proof, and shortly thereafter affiants father died very suddenly without ever having sent on to the pension office any application for a pension. Affiant often heard his father say that he was in the actual service in said Revolutionary war until the close of the war. 
John Pogue

The foregoing affidavit was sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written; and I certify that I know the affiant to be a creditable person and who he represents himself to be-- and that he is a minister of respectable standing in the Methodist Episcopal Church South-- and that I have no interest in the claim of the Claimant to a pension. 
Jacob Myers Seal
JP for GC

State of Tennessee}, S.S. 
Greene County} I Elijah W Headrick Clerk of the County Court of said County do certify that Jacob Myers Esqr [Esquire] whose genuine official signature appears to the foregoing Affidavit
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is and was at the date thereof, an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, duly commissioned and qualified according to law and that full faith and credit should be given to the same as his official acts. 

Given under my hand and seal of Office, at Office in Greeneville the 22nd day of January 1859. 
E. W. Headrick C. G. C.
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State of Tennessee} 
Claiborne County} On this 7th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty nine [1859] personally appeared before me and acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, Willis Harper a citizen of said County aged from Eight five to ninety years old, and makes oath in due form of law, that a short time after the Revolutionary War of 1776, He became acquainted with Joseph Pogue who, he often heard say that he served in the American Army in the struggle with Great Britain for Independence. That affiant and said Joseph Pogue both lived in Orange County North Carolina at that time from where as affiant now remembers the said Joseph Pogue lived both before and after the Revolutionary War. That affiant heard others of the neighbors of said Joseph Pogue speak of the said Pogue having served in said Revolutionary War. It was generally reputed and believed among the neighbors of the said Joseph Pogue that he was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, and affiant never heard questioned by any -- although he heard his services spoken of frequently and that shortly after the War.
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Affiant has also heard (his brother Richard Harper who was also a Revolutionary soldier and in his lifetime drew a pension) say that the said Joseph Pogue was in the Revolutionary War. 

Affiant would further state that about seventy or seventy years ago, that his sister, Nancy Harper was absent from her father's, and was staying at her aunt's, Margaret Fowell’s and that it was generally reported that Joseph Pogue and Nancy Harper were expected to be married and that it was afterwards stated that they were married and they then visited her father's house as husband and wife and were received as such and so reputed, and they lived together as husband and wife until the death of the said Joseph Pogue which was some twenty four years ago -- And they raised up a respectable family of children who were recognized as their legitimate children. That the said Nancy Harper who married the said Joseph Pogue is the sister of Affiant. That she is now the widow of the said Joseph Pogue. And that affiant has no interest in the Claim of the said widow to a pension -- that the said Joseph Pogue was a man of the strictest truth and integrity. 

Willis Harper
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The foregoing affidavit was sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written; and I certify that I know the affiant to be a creditable person, and who he represents himself to be. And that I have no interest in the matter deposed in relation to.

P. L. Larham {Seal}
Justice of the Peace for Claiborne County Tenn. 

State of Tennessee} 
Claiborne County} I, P. L. Larham, Clerk of the County Court of said County, do hereby certify that Wm. G. Faun, Esq. before whom the above and foregoing affidavit was made, now is, and was at the time of taking the same, an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly commissioned and qualified - and that his signature thereto is genuine 

Witness my hand and seal of Office at Office in Tazewell, this 7 day of January 1859. 

P L Larham Clk [Clerk]
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[typed form, with handwritten responses]

8297

P. O. 
Nancy Pogue 

Service: _________

[Stamped] - REJECTED

Enlisted: ____ ,18
Discharged: _____ ,18

Application filed: _____ ,18

Alleges: ______

Re-enlisted: ______

Attorney: ____
P. O. ____
___Recognized.  _____ Contract.
___Cert. of Dis.  Searched for ____, 18.
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Washington City 
Jan 26th 1859 

Hon Geo. C. Whiting 

Dear Sir, 

A few days since I transmitted to the pension office for examination the application of Nancy Pogue since then the enclosed affidavit has been received I hope that you will have it filed with the other papers and much oblge [obliged] 

Andrew Johnson
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No. 15, 504 

Nancy Pogue Wid [widow]:
Joseph, Tenn.

8297 

Let: [letter] to Hon. A. Johnson. Feb 2d / 59
“ [Letter to] Wm Hawkins March 21 / 59 


7th July 1838 1
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Charlotte N. C. Feby [February] 8, 1859 

Hon. A Johnson 

Dear Sir: having been called over here on business we have thought proper to examine the records at Raleigh in relation to the services of Joseph Pogue in the Revolutionary war - And do herewith send you the Certificate of the Comptroller as the result of that search. 

You will see from the statement in the certificate that allowances were made to Joseph Pogue by the Auditors for the Hillsboro Dist. June, 27th 1782 - the records do not show whether the payments were made or not- 

You will see from the proof that we have sent you heretofore that Joseph Pogue was in the War till the Close - the statement of the records as herewith sent showing at least Six months service before 27 June 1782.
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which together with the service till the close of the war will make between one and two service years. 

Very truly 
E. H. Pogue 
Wm Hawkins
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Hon Geo E Whiting 

Sir 

Inclosed [Enclosed] you will find same additional proof in the case of Mrs. Pogue which believe to fill for examination and hope there it will be attended as soon as convenient for the Examiner – I have  the honor to be &c
Andrew Johnson
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State of North Carolina,
Comptroller's Department 

I, C.H. Brogden, Comptroller of Public Accounts in and for the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that it appears of Record in my office, among the payments or allowances made by said State to sundry persons for Militia services in the Revolutionary War, as follows: 

Joseph Pogue, Hillsboro District. Book No. 23, Page 62 £7- 12- Specie.
Indent No. 85 £7 -12 - Specie 

Allowed by the Auditors for the Hillsboro District June 27th, 1782. 

The County of Orange was in the Hillsboro District, in which the above allowances were made. 

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of office, in the City of Raleigh, this 4th day of February, A.D. 1859. 

C.H. Brogden Comptroller
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Bulls Gap January [Ink Smear date]

Hon. Andrew Johnson

Dear Sir, enclosed is a Declaration of Nancy Pogue Widow of Joseph Pogue decd [deceased] a Revolutionary soldier to obtain a pension [Illegible] affidavits which will we think will clearly satisfy the mind that the claim is just and right to desire you, if agreeable to your feelings to take the matter in hand and obtain the pension if you can. 

Mrs. Pogue is getting very old and it is very desirable that the matter be attended to as soon as practicable. 

We will send the affidavit of John Pogue the son of Joseph Pogue who was in the Revolution, which will then additional light upon the matter, but it seems to us that we have already procured sufficient proof to obtain the pension but we have but little experience in such in this, and we would therefore say that if you will inform us if anything be lacking we will try to supply - Very [Illegible]  

Wm Hankins 
E. H. Pogue
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Washington City 
Jan 24th 1859

Hon Geo. C. Whiteing

Sir
Enclosed you will find on application for a pension will you be kind enough to have it examined at the earliest day [Illegible] and report the result of such examination to me or the parties- 

I have the honor to be &c
Andrew Johnson
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State of Tennessee} 
Greene County} On this 11th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty nine personally appeared before me an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, William A Price, aged thirty five years, a citizen of said County, says that his grandfather John Price was a Revolutionary soldier in the war of 1776 for Independence and in his life time drew a pension for his services in said war; and affiant heard his grandfather frequently speak of the said Joseph Pogue having been in the said Revolutionary war. And that Nancy Pogue is now his widow. 

And that affiant has no interest in her claim to a pension. 

William A Price 

The foregoing affidavit was sworn to in due form of law, and subscribed before me on the day and year above written; and I certify that I know the affiant to be a creditable person, and
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who he represents himself to be - And that I have no interest in the matter deposed in relation to S S Babb 
Justice for Greene County Tennessee 

State of Tennessee} 
Greene County} On this 11th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty nine, personally appeared before me an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, George Kenney a Citizen of said County, and made oath in due form of law, that he was acquainted with Joseph Pogue for several years after he removed from North Carolina to Tennessee - And was acquainted with him until his death which was some twenty four years ago - that he was an old man at the time of his death. That he frequently heard the old Joseph Pogue speak of having served in the Revolutionary War, and heard him speaking of being in actual engagement in battle - And that
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he lost his mare and a saddle while engaged in actual service in the American Army in said Revolutionary War, and that he never received any compensation for his services, his mare or saddle. 

Affiant also heard John Price decd [deceased] who was a Revolutionary soldier and drew a pension in his life time; say that the said Joseph Pogue was in the Revolutionary war, and that he the said Joseph Pogue lost his mare in the service of the American Army in the Revolution, and heard him say that the said Joseph Pogue was entitled to a pension , and compensation for the loss of his said mare. Affiant also heard Thomas Bryant in his life time, who was a Revolutionary soldier, and drew a pension, say that that the said Joseph Pogue was in the Revolutionary War at the same time that the said Thomas Bryant was, and that the said Joseph Pogue was entitled to a pension. At one time Affiant heard the said Joseph Pogue and the said Thomas Bryant in conversation in relation to each of their services in the Revolution
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and spoke as though they were familiar with each others services. 

Affiant further states that the said John Price and Thomas Bryant one time went to Greeneville Tennessee with the said Joseph Pogue to prove the services of the said Joseph Pogue in said war of the Revolution. But that the man or agent that they went to see, to get him to prepare the declaration to draw pension for the said Joseph Pogue was not at home or not found by them on that day. And shortly thereafter the said Joseph Pogue died before he made said proof or forwarded any claim to the Pension Office for a pension. 
George Kenney

The foregoing affidavit was sworn to & subscribed before me on the day and year above written; and I certify that I know the affiant to be a creditable person and who he represents himself to be, and I have in interest in the matters deposed in relation to S. S. Babb 
Justice for Greene County Tennessee
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State of Tennessee} 
Greene County} On this the 11th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and fifty nine personally appeared before me an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, Alexander Price a Citizen of the County and State aforesaid aged fifty seven years, and makes oath in due form of law, that he is a son of John Price decd [deceased] who was a Revolutionary soldier and during his life drew a pension for his services in the war of the Revolution of 1776 - Affiant states that he was acquainted with Joseph Pogue in his life time, who died about twenty four years ago, and was an old man that he frequently heard the said Joseph Pogue and affiants father during their life time have conversations in relation to their services in said Revolutionary War. That he heard both the said Joseph Pogue and the father of affiant say that they were both in the said war. And affiant heard his father tell the said Joseph Pogue that
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he could prove by him the said John Price that he the said Joseph Pogue lost a very fine mare, while engaged in the actual services in the American Army in the said Revolutionary War. 

That affiants father, the said Joseph Pogue and Thomas Bryant as affiant understood from his father and the said Joseph Pogue a short time before the death of the said Joseph Pogue went together to Greeneville to make out the declaration to send to the pension office to draw a pension for the said Joseph Pogue. That affiants father and the said Thomas Bryant went as witnesses to prove that the services were actually performed in the said Revolutionary War by the said Joseph Pogue, but that they did not on that day get to see the man they went to see to prepare the declaration for the said Joseph Pogue as affiant remembers the facts - And that shortly thereafter the said Joseph Pogue died before said proof was made out. Affiant's father removed from Caswell County North Carolina to Greene
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County Tennessee in the year 1812 - And affiant knows the fact that his father and the said Joseph Pogue were acquainted with each other and were familiar friends before they removed from North Carolina as well as after they came to Tennessee, as he learned from both of them. Affiant understood from affiants father and mother that the said Joseph Poque married Nancy Harper in Caswell County N. C. That she is now his widow. that the said Joseph Pogue was a man of strict truth, and firm integrity. That affiant has no interest in the Claim of Nancy Poque the Widow of Joseph Pogue to a pension under the Acts of Congress. 
Alexander Price

The foregoing affidavit was sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written; and I certify that know the affiant to be a creditable person and who he represents himself to be, and that I have no interest in the matters deposed in relation to. 

S. S. Babb 
Justice for Greene County Tennessee
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State of Tennessee} S.S. 
Greene County} I Elijah W Headrick Clerk of the County Court of said County, do certify that S. S. Babb Esqr [Esquire] whose genuine official signature appear to the foregoing affidavits of William A Price George Kenney and Alexander Price, is now and was at the date thereof, an acting Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, duly Commissioned and qualified according to law. and that full faith and credit should be given to the same as his official acts. 

Given under my hand and seal of office at office in Greenville the 17th day of January 1859. 

E. W. Headrick C.G.C.
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Dandridge, Tennessee 
March 9, 1839

To the Commissioner of Pensions Washington City 

Dear Sir. A short time since, there was forwarded through Hon. Andrew Johnson U. S. S. to the Pension Office, the claim of Mrs. Nancy Pogue for a Revolutionary Pension as the widow of Joseph Pogue decd [deceased] under the Act of 7th July 1838. I hope you will pardon me for saying that I think we have proved the marriage sufficiently, for Willis Harper proves then living together for at least fifty years as man and wife and were so reputed regarded by her fathers family and others and that they raised up a family of children acknowledged & treated as legitimate - and that substantially the same facts are proved by various other good & competent witnesses which together with the direct affidavit of Mrs. Pogue most clearly and sufficiently proves the marriage, for as I understand it has been decided that "parties living together through a series of years as man and wife, and their having children in the time, proved to be acknowledged and treated as legitimate, with the direct affidavit of the surviving party may suffice to establish the marriage, and supersede the necessity of surrendering the family record for that purpose, held dear as a family voucher.” 

Opinion by D. C. Goddard, Acting Secretary on the 15th Sept. 1850, in the Department of the Interior, in the case of Rhoda O'Quinn widow of John O'Quinn.

You have expressed the opinion that the Certificate of the Comptroller of North Carolina only shows three months service- admit that is so, and also the fact that the files at Raleigh N. C. are very imperfect, and that it is with difficulty frequently that we find anything of the kind
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to how much service where it is known that the Revolutionary soldier was of the North Carolina Militia then we should not look to that as all the proof in the case but as corroborative of the other proof, fact, and circumstances of the case. From Joseph Pogue's own statements made in his life time he was in the war at its close in 1783. The Certificate of the Comptroller of N.C. shows that in May 1782 the allowance was made for service prior to that date, from which time till peace was made, would make at least over one years service We prove his services by reputation, in the immediate section of the country where they were rendered directly after the Revolution, that they were spoken of and not questioned by any. We prove that Price and Bryant two revolutionary pensioners in their life time stated that Joseph Pogue was entitled to receive a pension. They having received a pension knew the amount of service required to obtain a pension and consequently spoke in positive terms as to the services of Joseph Pogue, their companion in arms, and of his right to receive a pension. And you will pardon me for saying that the statements of those old Revolutionary soldiers, standing upon the verge of the grave, are entitled to as much weight as an affidavit in these latter days of ordinary men. 

I had thought and hoped that you would so decide that this old lady is entitled to a pension, for I was of the impression that the Department had decided that “Declarations have to be made from time to time, some time by the department on account of the rapid decrease of the survivors of the Revolutionary Army, and the consequent difficulty of procuring direct positive testimony in every case.” It is impossible to get positive proof at this late day, and so that we get sufficient proof to fully satisfy the mind that the claim is just and right the small pittance should not be withheld from those
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that come down to us for generations past, and to whom we owe and are indebted for every thing dear to us as their descendants.

“The fact of service claimed to have been rendered by a deceased husband; sustained by a variety of collateral evidence that could not have existed except in connection with such service, should dispense with the requirement to prove the service in the usual direct manner, when that has become impossible." 

Case of Rhoda O’Quinn decided 15 Sept 1850. You will be kind enough to excuse me for calling your attention, to what I consider prove in the said Claim of Mrs. Pogue, and the law and the principles that I think are applicable to the case. And hope that you may in looking to all the proof in the case look upon it in the same light, I do, and if so I am assured it will be your pleasure as well as your duly to grant the pension.

I have the honor to be, very truly 
your most obt Servt [Obedient Servant] 
William Hawkins