Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 28750, John Greenman, Mass.
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Service: Mass. 
Greenman, John.  
Number: S.28750 
Contents
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6105
New York
John Greenman
of Yates in the State of New York who was a Private in the Army forces commanded by Captain Smith of the Regr. commanded by Col. Simons in the Massts line for 7 1/2 months

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 25 Dollars___ Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 20th day of July 1833. and sent to Hon W. Babcock H of Rp [House of Representatives]

Arrears to the 4th of Sep 1832   $37.50
Semi=anl. allowance ending 4th Sep '33 12.50
= $50.00

{Revolutionary Claim, 
Act June 7, 1832}

Recorded by Geo. C Stiles Clerk
Book D Vol. 5 Page 189

[right side]
Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the C. [Congress} April 1838
from 4 March to 4 Sep 1840
Agt [agent] notified 1st June 1841.
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In The Matter of John Greenman
A Revolutionary Soldier claiming a pension under the act of 7th June 1832

Mr W. Babcock M.C. [Member of Congress]
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In The Matter of
John Greenman
A Revolutionary Soldier

Claiming a pension under the Act of
Congress passed 7th June 1832

He having served upwards of nine months in the militia of the State of Massachusetts

If allowed he desires his pension certificate sent to Penn Yan Yates County New York to the care of E J Fowle. He would prefer drawing his pension from the U S Branch Bank in the city of New York. If his claim be not allowed any information from the Sect of war touching his claim will be thoughtfully received directed as above.
The Secty obt Servnt
John Goodman his + mark

Penn Yan Sept 1832 -
Attest E.J.Fowle [signature]
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State of New York
Yates County 

On the 28th day of September in
the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open Court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Yates, State of New York now sitting John Greenman resident of the Town of Jerusalem in the County of Yates aforesaid, aged Seventy years who being first duly sworn according to law doth [inserted: on his oath] make the
following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832

That he was born in the Town of Westley in the
County of Kings State of Rhode Island on the
17th day of July in the year 1762 according to
record he has seen in his fathers family Bible

Resided during the revolutionary war in the Town of
Handcock [Hancock] Bershire [Berkshire] County Massachusetts 

in the spring of 1777 according to the best of this deponents recollection he inlisted [enlisted] at Handcock [Hancock] aforesaid as a private in a company commanded
by Captain Smith of the same place in the regiment of Col Simone of Williamstown and proceeded to Skeensborough landing as a guard to a drove of fat cattle 

on arriving within five miles of the
landing we received orders as this deponent understood to turn about with the cattle and proceed to Pollett [Pawlet?] in Vermont the head quarters of the American Army forces 

on arriving at Pollett [Pawlet?] aforesaid the force to which this deponant was
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attached were stationed there for a short time and then we were discharged and this deponent returned home was engaged at this time about two months the same season this deponent enlisted again and according to the best of his recollection at Handcock aforesaid as a private in a company commanded Captain William Douglas belonging to said Simons regiment and proceeded to Bennington in Vermont where at a place called Loomsky Walloomscrick  this desponent was in an engagement under General Starke and routed the enemy.  There were about 2000 Americans engaged when the fight commenced but several reinforcements arrived during the action we chased the British towards Saratoga.  The prisoners taken were lodged in a meeting house at first and they as this deponent understood were sent on to Boston. Shortly after the battle this deponent was discharged was engaged this time about one month. The next and last service performed by this deponent was as a minute man, He enlisted shortly after the expiration of his last term of service under Captain William Douglas aforesaid at Handcock aforesaid and was frequently called out on alrms and other times this deponent served as a minute man about two years and was engaged during said time at least nine or ten months never had a written discharge knows of no person living by whom he can prove his actual services has resided since the revolutionary war at Hartford near Fort Edwards New York in Aurelius Cayuga County New York then in Ontario County New York in the town of Jerusalum (now Yates County) where he has resided 12 or 15 years and
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now resides, there is no minister in the vicinity of this deponant who has resided there any length of time of that this deponent is aquainted with

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state.
Sworn and subscribedd the day and year aforesaid.
his John Greenman mark
Thomas J Nevins
Deputy Clerk
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I James Potter, a clergyman residing in the town of Jerusalem, county of Yates, N.Y. do hereby certify, that I am well acquainted with John Greenman, the within named applicant for a pension. He is a man of truth and veracity, is about 70 years of age. Is reputed or believed to be a soldier in the revolution in the neighborhood where he resides and I concur in that opinion.
James Potter [signature]

Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
T..J. Nevins Dep. Clerk [signature]
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We John Church and Gilbert Ireland residing in the town of Jerusalem County of Yates and state of New York hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Greenman who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be of seventy years of age that his reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
John Church
Gilbert Ireland [signatures]

Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
T.J. Nevins Dep. Clerk [signature]

And the said court hereby declare their opinion after investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he has stated. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that James Potter is a clergyman and John Church and Gilbert Ireland, who have signed signed (sic) the preceding certificate are residents of the town of Jerusalem aforesaid and are credible persons and their statement is entitled to credit

I George Sherman Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Yates and state of New York do hereby certify that the forgoing contains the original proceeding of the said court in the matter of the application John Greenman for a Pension.
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In testimony whereof I have here unto set my hand and seal of office this 28th day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty two.
George Shearman Clerk
Thomas J. Nevins Dep. Clerk

I George Shearman clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Yates in the state of New York do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the Application of John Greenman for a Pension

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this First day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three.
George Shearman Clerk
By R. M. Smith Deputy Clerk  [signature]

[seal]
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State of New York
Yates county,  ss.}
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the county of Yates, John Greenman, to me known to be the person making application for a Pension and whose papers are hereunto annexed and who being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age and the consequent  loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the period mentioned below, and in the following [illegible]: For two months I served as a private in Capt. Smith's company in Col. Simmons' regiment as set forth in my declaration hereunto annexed. For three weeks as a private in Capt. Douglas' company in said Simmons' regiment as set forth in my declaration aforesaid. And for at least nine and a half months as a minute man in actual
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service as set forth in my declaration aforesaid. In the performance of said last service, this deponent was once detached from Capt. Douglas' company to New Haven, the British having landed there and burnt the continental stores. This deponent went as a private with many of his company, and some belonging to other companies, under Capt. Samuel Clark. On arriving at New haven this deponent stood as a guard: the British it was expected would reland, but they did not: and this deponent together with the company, was discharged. This deponent was employed at this time at least six weeks. This deponent was at another time, as a minute man and private aforesaid called out as aforesaid and under Capt. Gorton proceeded to Tiverton where this deponent understood 9,000 men were collected under Gen. Spencer to go on to Rhode Island, but did not proceed. Remained at Tiverton upwards of a month, was then dismissed, and was out at this time not less than two
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months. This deponent was at another time, as a minute man and private aforesaid, detached as aforesaid to around to Skenesborough an an alarm, and went as far as Granville, under a capatain whose name this deponent cannot recollect, and the company was kept there one month and then dismissed. [Note: The ( ) ( ) says he is not mistakenabout this month's service, for while at Granville he got married and took his wife home with him.] And this deponent further says that although he was in actual service for upwards of nine months as a minute man in the war of the revolution, he is only enabled to particularize the servings he has last above set forth, amounting to four and a half months, and which with the two months and three weeks mentioned in his declaration previous to his enlisting as a mi
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nute man, makes in the whole seven months and one week and for such service, as a private, I claim a pension.
his
John Greenman
Mark
Sworn and certified before me this 1 day of Feb. 1833 Alan Woodworth J.P.
State of New York
County of Yates  I George Shearman clerk of said county of Yates do hereby certify that Abner Woodworth Esquire before whom the foregoing Affidavit of John Greenman purports to have been Sworn was at the date of the same an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said county and duly empowered by law to administer oaths. And I further certify that I am well aquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his signature subscribed to the said Affidavit to be genuine. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said county and of the court of common Pleas thereof at Penn Law thes First day of February 1833.
George Shearman clerk
by R. M. Smith Deputy clerk
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S.F.28750
John Greenman
Spring 1777.  2 mos.   Pvt.  Smith Simmonds Mass
Same Season 3 weekw or 1 month. William Douglass.  Simmonds
6 weeks minute man Samuel Clark. at New Haven
2 mos  Gorham at Tiverton
1 mo officer not stated at Granville

Battles engaged in, Bennington
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Hancock, Berkshire Co. Mass.
Date of application for pension, Sept. 28,1832 His I. al.
Residence at date of application, Jerusalim, Yates Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, b. July 17, 1762 at Westerly, R.I.
Remarks: He was married at Granville date and name of wife are not stated.

*called Loomskay (Walloomscrick) in declarations
See Lossing Vol. 1 page 398 describing battle of Bennington
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28 750
Reoy INVALID
File No. 28750
John Greenman
Pri. Rev. War
Act: June 7" 32"
Index:- Vol. 8 (or D), Page165

1914 Mch. 20 Hist. To- Miss Emily A Greenman. J.L.M. 
1914 Apr. 7 Miss Emily A. Greenman information to apply to Aud. for Int. Dept.
1916 July 25 Hon Norman J. Gould that date of death is not of record
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V.L.M.
Rev. War Section. 
July 25, 1916. 

Honorable Norman J. Gould, 
House of Representatives.

My dear Mr. Gould- 
In response to your letter dated the 21st instant, I have the honor to advise you that the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner John Greenman, S. F. No. 28,750 is not a matter of record in this Bureau, and the only means it has of obtaining the same is through the Auditor for the Interior Department, who will furnish the date of last payment of pension and probable date of death, and from the day to contained in your letter it appears that the Auditor has been consulted on this matter. 

If this has not been done, you should apply to him citing all the data contained in the second paragraph of your letter. 
Very truly yours, 
GM Saltzgber [signature]
Commissioner.


Letter returned to 
Mr. Gould July 25, 1916
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March 11, 1914
The Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
I would like to know if you have any record of John Greenman, or Grinman, who served in the Revolutionary War from Berkshire Co., Mass. on four alarms between 1777 and 1781.

He was born in Exeter, R.I. about 1760, and is said to have died in either Seneca of Onondaga Co., N.Y.,
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between 1838 and 1858.
Any information will be greatly appreciated
Very truly yours
(Miss) Emily A. Greenman
215 West Fourth St,
Marion, Indiana
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March 27, 1914

Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sirs:
I am in receipt of your statement of March 20th of the military history of John Greenman in the Revolutionary War, for which I thank you very much.

You state that he applied for pension Sept. 28, 1832, when living at Jerusalem, Yates Co., N.Y. I would also like to know if you have on your
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records the length of time John Greenman received this pension, and the date and
place of his death. If you can give me this additional information I will greatly
appreciate it
Very truly yours
(Miss) Emily A. Greenman
215 West Fourth St.
Marion, Indiana
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
Second Comptroller's Office,
June 9th 1841

Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," John Greenman, a Pensioner on the Roll of the Albany N.Y. Agency, at the rate of Twenty five Dollars and ____Cents per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832, has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of March, to the 4th Sept. 1840.
Respectfully yours,
Albion K. Parris [signature]
Comptroller.

To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.
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John Greenman
New York 

Honl W Babcock 
H Rep.
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Greenman - which require further proof or explanation. 
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes 

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes 

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason as signed for his not doing so? 
 
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes 

V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Np - not with precision
Each tour of actual service in the field or garrison as a minute

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes 
Man should be particularly set forth

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes 

VII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes 

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes 

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? yes

XIV. +If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? 
And is the official character and signature of the magistrate certified by the proper officer under his seal of office? 

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? 

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
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EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For ____ year ______ months and ____ days, I served as a _____.  For ______ months ______ days, I served as a ____ and for such service I claim a pension."
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. 

QUERE XIV. Proof of Service. 
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. 

QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers. 
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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V.L.M.
Rev. War Section.
April 7, 1914.

Miss Emily A. Greenman,
215 West 4th Street,
Marion, Ind.

Madam:

In response to your letter dated the 22" ultimo, you are advised that in order to obtain the date of last payment of Pension and probable date of death of John Greenman, Sur. File No. 28,750 Rev. War, you should apply to the Auditor for the Interior Department, U.S. Treasury Department, citing the following data: 

"John Greenman, Certificate No. 6105, issued February 20, 1833, at $25 per annum commencing March 4, 1831, under Act of June 7, 1832, at the New York Agency."

Very respectfully, 
GM Saltzgaber [signature]
Commissioner.