Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4008, John Gilbert, Lansdown, Leeds Co, Upper Canada
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(3 - 1776)
SERVICE
P
Gilbert, John
NUMBER
R. 4008
Lansdown, Leeds Co, Upper Canada
Address when applying for pension
CONTENTS
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Beverly Johnstown District
Canada,  22nd Oct 1852

H N Gilbert, Esqr
Washington City, DC

Sir:

I have been requested by John GIlbert, sone of John Gilbert deceased (who died 12th March last) to write to you on behalf of the heirs of deceased.

Epiphus - Son
Ira - Son
Lydia - Daughter (married to Wm Taylor)

[who three] live in the Township of Southold, County Middlesex, Canada West

John lives in the Township of Landsown County of Leeds Canada West
William lives in the Township of Leeds, County of Leeds
Enos lives in North Gower County of Grenville Canada West
Jerushia Knapp (widow) lives in Township of Lansdown, County of Leeds Canada West

-over-
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assistance in that way will be very acceptable.  What will the whole pay if collected.  Please address to me by way of Morristown, Beverly, Johnstown District, Canada West

Your obed't servant

Walter H Donant


John Gilbert NY
Act '32
Suspended
Th Lumpkin
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Pension Office
May 14 1836

Sir:

The application of the children of John Gilbert of N York for all arrears of pension alleged to be due him has been filed with his original claim under the Act June 7 1832.

The original papers filed now show Gilbert to have been enrolled, among others, in "Classes" to serve under Cap Gilbert, but they do not show the duration of the service nor even that he rendered any actual service. There is no reason to suppose that his service was coextensive with Cap Gilberts; indeed his own statements show that he was only occasionally out under Cap Gilbert and then in short tours of a few days. He claimed to have served in Connecticut from Apr 1776 to Apl 1777 under Cap Allen. It is possible that the Records of that state may sustain his
allegations. If they do not, no allowance can be made as there is no proof on file, exhib(ing)
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(exhibit)ing a service of 6 months.

Gilbert

H N Gilbert, Esq
Present
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The printed list of 1852 of rejected and suspended Revolutionary claims, page 121, shows claim of John Gilbert of Lansdown, Leeds Co, Upper Canada suspended because "no evidence appearing, he is required to furnish a detail of his service and submit it to the Conn Comptroller.

MBH
Aug 14, 1911

See list of private claims presented to the House of Rep from 32 to 41 Congress, Page 172, which shows list the children of this soldier, received their pension, the Act of Cong approved March 3, 1857

MHT  Nov 18, 1935
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1935 Nov 26 - Photos mailed to Basil E Gilbert, Ill Acct Div.  notified 11/27/35

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4008

John GIlbert

REJECTED
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35078

John Gilbert

NY

Ltr to Sec'y of War, June 29, 1840

Act 7 June 1832
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35078
John GIlbert
N York

4008

June 7, 1832
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Revolutionary Pension Claim

Hon J Minot
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington DC
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Hon J Broom
May 23 / 56
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Pension Office
May 23, 1856

Sir:

Agreeably to your request I enclose herewith the papers in the case of John Gilbert, dec'd, whose children apply for a pension under the Act of 7 June 1832

Hon Jacob Broom
Chm Com Revy Pensions
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Washington City, DC
Jany 24 / 57

Sir:

Enclosed please find "An Act HR 47 for the relief of the surviving children of John Gilbert, a Revolutionary soldier" which is referred to your office for any official information or such opinion as you may deem proper to give.

Very respectfully
Your obed servt

Geo W Jones
Chm Com on Pensions U.S.S.

Hon Geo C Whiting
Com'r Pensions
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Hon G W Jones
Jan'y 25 / 57
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Pension Office
January 28, 1857

Sir,

I return the papers in the case of John GIlbert of NY and have the honor to enclosed a copy of a letter of the 16th of May 1856 to Mr H N Gilbert which will disclose the grounds upon which this office refused the allowance of the claim.

(Letter of May 14, 1856 affixed with the papers)

Hon Geo Jones
Chm, Com on Pensions
U S Senate
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Sec'y of War
June 29, 1840
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Pension Office
June 29 1840

Sir: 
In obedience to your order I have the honor to report upon the case of John Gilbert of Upper Canada transmitted by Judge Brown of Ogdensburg NY.  This claim under the act of 7 June 1832 is now asserted for the first time.  It is founded upon several terms of service in the Connecticut militia and is supported either by the traditionary evidence which the rules require of all who claim for militia service or by any other direct proof of service, statement of each term
showing the period length & grade & the names of Compy & field officers should be laid before the Comptroller of Connecticut and his certificate obtained upon the same paper (or the statement should be copied into his certificate) as to the evidence which his records afford that either confirm or discredit each - There are but very few detached militia roles of Conn in this office. 

Con: J R Poinsett
Secy of War.

enter in NY Index
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few papers of evidence in the claim of the children of John Gilbert
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House of Representatives
Committee Revolutionary Pensions
May 21st 1856

Hon J Minot
Commissioner of Pensions

Sir:

You are respectfully requested to furnish for the use of the Committee on Revolutionary Pensions the papers and evidence on file in your department in the claim of the children of John Gilbert, of Canada, for arrears of pensions, under the act of June 7, 1832

Very respectfully your obed't servant,
Jacob Broom
Chairman, Committee
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Kingston RI
Nov 18, 1935

Veterans Administration
Washington DC

Dear Sirs:

Please furnish photostatic copies of nine (9) pages in Rev War Pension Claim R.4008.

John Gilbert - R.4008

Sincerely

Basil E Gilbert
Kingston RI
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BA-J/ILL
Rev. & 1812
No. 287
November 18

Navy-Br. 970

Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

Rev War claim for pension of John Gilbert
R.4008 Actual: 1 of each page

$2.25  9 pages

Kindly leave margin of 1 inch at top of each page and return papers in case in folder with
corresponding name and number.

The word ""Omit"" written in pencil on
those pages not to be copied.
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November 26, 1935.

BA-J/ILL

Mr. Basil E. Gilbert
Kingston, Rhode Island.

Dear Sir:

You are furnished herewith, as requested, photostatic copies of nine pages from Revolutionary War claim for pension based upon service of John Gilbert, R. 4000, on file in the Veterans Administration.

Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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BA-J/ILL.
November 18, 1935.
From -- Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
To - Registered Mail Desk, Mail Subdivision.
Subject - Remittances
Remitter - Mr. Basil R. Gilbert
Kingston, Rhode Island.

Cash -- $2.25 -- for photostatic copies from Revolutionary War pension claim of John Gilbert R. 4008.

Finch
Chief of Section.
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THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES 
Form VAM-51 
12-5-41
Division of Veterans' Administration Archives 

BOUNTY LAND WARRANT RECORD CARD* 

Name: Gilbert, John

Grade: Corporal

Line: New York

WARRANT NUMBER: 7148     ACREAGE: 100    ISSUED: September 25, 1790 to John Thompson, assignee

The information concerning the issuance of warrants carded on this form is found in volumes 2 to 4 of ""Land Warrants Issued Prior to 1800"" which are registers of bounty land warrants issued to non-commissioned officers and privates under congressional resolutions of September 16, 1776, and subsequent dates. Other records relative to the applications for warrants appear to have been destroyed in the War Department fire of November 9, 1800. Information concerning warrants surrendered to the Federal Government is to be found in General Land Office records in The National Archives.