Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8214, Charles Clements, Va.
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Service Va
Clements, Charles
Number S.8214 
carded
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1.706..
Virginia

Charles Clements
of Fluvanna Co. in the State of Virga
who was a Private, in the Company commanded by Captain Rice. - of the Regt. commanded by Colo. Taylor. in the Virginia. line for two years &c. -

Inscribed on the Roll of Virginia at the rate of 80. Dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 20th day of May. 1833. and sent to S. Winn, Winns tavern Co. Va.

Arrears to the 4th of Mar. 1833. 160.00
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept 33. 40.00
$200.00

{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Wm R. Palmer, Clerk
Book E. Vol. six. Page 4.
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War Department
Washington City

Charles Clements
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State of Virginia   S.S.
Fluvanna County

On this 26th day of November personally appeared
before the Court of the said Country, Charles Clements a
resident of the County and State aforesaid, aged Seventy
four years, who being first duly sworn according to Law
doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order
to obtain the benifit of the provision made by the
act of Congress passed the 7th June 1832.  That in the
fall of the year 1778 he entered the military Service
of the State of Virginia as a private soldier under
Captain Holeman Rice and served at Albemarle
Barracks in Colonel Taylor's Regiment  (he did not
recollect) between twelve and eighteen months--

In or about the month of October or November
1780 he enlisted in a Company, commanded (as well as he
recollects) by Capt. Anderson, and marched to Chesterfield 
Barracks Va. in a short time thereafter, he was transferred to
Captain Denham's Company and attached to Col. Davis'
Regiment, (the No. not recollected.) during the winter of 1780 and
1781 he marched with said Captain Denham's Company to
Portsmouth Va. and returned again to Chesterfield Barracks.

About the first of March 1780 he left Chesterfield
Barracks and marched, (he thinks) in Captain Sansom's
Company, attached to Col. Campbell's Regiment, to North
Carolina, where he joined Genl. Green, at Haw River, on the
11th day of March--  On the 15th day of March he was
engaged in the battle of Guilford C. H.  On the 25th 
day of April following he was engaged in the battle of
Camden, where he was badly wounded and sent to the
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Hospital-- he remained in Hospital till about the 15th or 20th
of August, and again joined Genl. Green under Captain Simon Morgan, at the high Hills of Santee in South
Carolina, and was engaged in the battle of Eutaw Springs
about the 8th or 9th of September, where he was again
severely wounded and sent to the Hospital-- He was
confined by his wound in Hospital till about 19th January
serving in all, nearly three years-- He hereby
relinquishes (if necessary to the success of the present application)
every claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except
the present-- and he declares that his name is only on
the Pension Roll of the State of Virginia, from which
State he now is receiving a pension of Sixty dollars only
per annum, commencing from the    day of
on account of wounds received in the battles above
names-- He further states; that his discharge and other
documentary evidence of his wounds and services, were put
into the hands of his representatives many years ago, when
application was made to the Virginia Legislature for the
said pension, and unless they are in the publick office, in
Richmond, he supposes are lost--
The said Charles Clements states that at the time he entered the service
aforesaid; he resided in the said County of Fluvanna & State of
Virginia, and has there resided ever since.  Sworn and
subscribed the day and year aforesaid.

Charles  Clements
       his  X mark

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion,
that the above named applicant was a revolutionary
Soldier & Served as he states.
T Perkins
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I Abraham Shephard clerk of the Court of Fluvanna County, do
hereby certify, that the foregoing, contains the original
proceedings in the matter of application of Charles Clements
for a pension-- In Testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand & seal of Office this 17th day of December
One thousand eight hundred and thirty two

Abraham Shepherd, C. C.
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No 21986
Charles Clements
Va.
12.703.
look on Va Roll
On roll Cont.
Adm 2 years

J Winn
Winnsville
Virg.a
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office.
183

Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margins with a brace, (thus: }). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.

A Statement, showing the Service of Charles Clements Fluvanna County Virga.
Period when the service was rendered.
[1] 1778
[2] Enlis 1780
[3] 1781
Duration of the claimant's service.
Years. Months. Days.
[1-2] Between 12 & 18 months
In all nearly three years
Rank of the claimant.
[1] Priv
[2] "
[3] "
[4] "
Name and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served.
[1] Capt Rice
[2] " Anderson
[3] " Sansum
[4] " Morgan
Names and Rank of the General and Field officers.
[1] Col Taylor
[2] " Davis
[3] " Campbell
[4] Gen Green
Battles in which the applicant was engaged.
[1] None
[2] Guilford
[3] Camden
[4] Eutaw
Country through which he marched.
[1] Va
[2] Va
[3] N.C.
[4] SC
Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period.
Aged 74, place of abode not stated
Evidence by which the declaration is supported.
Traditionary

I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.

The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, & c, Teamsters, Boatmen, &c.  Persons who serviced on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1.  The Regular Troops.
2.  The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3.  Persons employed in the Naval Service.
4.  Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, mucicians or privates, will in the first instance, make applications by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides.  And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION.
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832
State, Territory, or District of
County of } ss.
On this     day of     personally appeared (a) before
A. B. a resident (b) of     in the county of     and State, Territory or District of     aged (c)      years who being duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832.  That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d)     , with     and served in the      (e) regiment of the     line, under the following named officers:

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched.  This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid,                             A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I     of the Court of     do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of     for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this     day of      &c.

If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman. residing in the     and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with     , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be     years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certified, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the     and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the     and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I,     Clerk of the Court of     do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of      for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this    day of     &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power.  This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case.  The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corrobating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be at attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected.  All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.  
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1.  Where and in what year were you born?
2.  Have you any record your age, and if so, where is it?
3.  Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4.  How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute?  And if a substitute, for whom?
5.  State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6.  {To a Soldier.} Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?  {To an Officer.}  Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7.  State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.  The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.  The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons - one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion.  If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party  And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.  
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.

[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides.  If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had.  Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:  For  year  months, and  days, I served as a  For  months and  days, I served as a  ; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable.  It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served:  the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must    certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature  of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[i] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops,  The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration
Dyer Castor
Exam Clerk
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for a statement of the military history of Charlie Clements a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. S.8214
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT / LENGTH OF SERVICE/RANK/OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED CAPTAIN / COLONEL / STATE
Fall 78 / 12 or 18 mos/Prvt / Holeman Rice / Taylor / Va
Oct or Nov 80 / / / Anderson Denham Sansum Simon Morgan / Davis Campbell / 
dis Jan 10 1782 (from Hospital) place not stated
Battles engaged in Guilford, Camden, [crossed out Holkirk Hill] Apr 24 1781 where wd  Eutaw Spgs where wd
Residence of soldier at enlistment Fluvanna Co Va
Date of application for pension Nov 26 1832 Cl al
Residence at date of application, Fluvanna Co Va
Age at date of application 74
Remarks:  Place of his enlistment is not stated nor is there any date on file in regards to family 
nature of wounds not stated
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Rev. War Section.

September 25, 1913

Mr. Bert C. Thomas,
Suite 1524-1529 Yeon Building
Portland, Oregon.

Sir:

In response to your letter dated the 16" and received the 23" instant, you are advised that you were furnished on December 24, 1907, the history of Charles Clements of Fluvanna County, Virginia, Revolutionary War pensions.  Sur. File No. 8,214.  A careful search of the records of this Bureau fails to show that bounty land was allowed by the United States on account of his services.
For information relative to land granted by the State of Virginia, you should apply to the Secretary of said State at Richmond, Virginia.

Very respectfully,
G.M. Saltzgaber
Commissioner
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Bert c. Thomas
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Suite 1524-1529 Yeon building
Portland, Oregon
Phones Main 2541
A.2541

[illegible STAMP]

16th September, 1913.

The Honorable Secretary of the
Department of the Interior,
Washington, D.C.

Sir:-
I find that Hon. Wilson Cary Nicholas, Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, on May 22, 1815, granted to Charles Clement certain land in Fluvanna County, Virginia, amounting in all to 197 acres, "by virtue of a Land Office Treasury Warrant No. 1633, issued the 18th day of October, 1795".
Charles Clement was my great-grandfather, and I would appreciate it very much if I might be advised on what account the Warrant No. 1633 issued.  Was it for services performed in the Revolutionary War, and may I not have a copy of the said Warrant?  Please give me all the information on the subject you can. Thanking you in advance, I have the honor to be, 
Very Respectfully,
Bert C. Thomas

[STAMP]
U.S. Pension Office
Sep 23, 1913

T-D.

[handwritten left margin]
Old bounty land books searched
no claim AW
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3-71
RECORD DIVISION
Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions

Briefed by AW Sept. 24 1913
Claim No. - 
Certificate No. - 
Claimant - 
Soldier Charles Clement
Service Va
Additional Service  Rev.

No - claim, State records -,191
No Claim, combination records - , 191

Remarks
No bounty land for above
Old books searched

Chief Division

6-1944
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[STAMP]
To Chf.______Div.
Action _____
Dec 24 1907
COMMISSIONER.

-COPY-
1615 Florida Avenue,
December 11, 1907

Sir:-
My mother's grandfather Charles Clement or Charles Clements, their name now being spelled with the "s", was a soldier in the patriot army of the Revolutionary War.  On asking the United States War Department for his military record I am advised as follows:

"It is shown by the records of this office that Charles Clements (also borne Charles Clemments) served as a private in Captain Holman Rice's Company, Colonel Francis Taylor's Virginia Regiment, Revolutionary War.  His name appears on a pay roll of the company, Dated June 7, 1779, and covering the period from April 1, to May 31, 1779, which shows that his pay commenced April 1, and that he served two months.  His name also appears, without remark as to his service, in a list of soldiers in the Virginia line who received certificates for the balance of their full pay "agreeable to an act of the Assembly", passed in November, 1781.  Nothing further has been found of record relative to his service."

I am very desirous of obtaining all the information possible regarding this line of my ancestors, and I would be glad if you would give me any particulars you can from the records of the Pension Bureau relative to his services during the Revolutionary War, his age when he enlisted in the army
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and at what point, also the point at which he was mustered out of the service, in what battles he participated, the extent of his wounds received in service if any, at what point he resided at the time he entered the army and at what point he joined his command, and especially the names of the different members of his family, his parents, etc., etc.
Thanking you in anticipation, I have the honor to remain,
Very respectfully,
Bert C. Thomas


Commissioner of Pensions
United States Pension Bureau,
Washington, D.C.
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1615 Florida Avenue,
Washington, D.C.,
December 11, 1907
Sir: 
My mother's grandfather Charles Clement or Charles Clements, their name now being spelled with the "s" was a soldier in the patriot army of the Revolutionary War.  On asking the United States War Department for his military record I am advised as follows:

"It is shown by the records of this Office that Charles Clements (also borne Charles Clemments) served as a private in Captain Holman Rice's Company, Colonel Francis Taylor's Virginia Regiment, Revolutionary War.  His name appears on a pay roll of the company, dated June 7, 1779, and covering the period from April 1 to May 31, 1779, which shows that his pay commenced April 1, and that he served two months.  His name also appears, without remark as to his service, in a list of soldiers in the Virginia line who received certificates for the balance of their full pay "agreeable to an act of the Assembly" passed in November, 1781.  Nothing further has been found of record relative to his service."

I am very desirous of obtaining all the information possible regarding this line of my ancestors, and I would be glad if you would give me any particulars you can from the records of the Pension Bureau relative to his services during the Revolutionary War, his age when he enlisted in the army and at what point,
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also the point at which he was mustered out of the service, in what battles he participated, the extent of his wounds received in service if any, at what point he resided at the time he entered the army and at what point he joined his command, and especially the names of the different members of his family, etc.
Thanking you in anticipation, I have the honor to remain,
Very respectfully
Bert C Thomas

Commissioner of Pensions,
United States Pension Bureau,
Washington, D.C.

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3-871.
RECORD DIVISION
Department of the Interior
BUREAU OF PENSIONS

Briefed by Gill
Claim No
Certificate no
Claimant
Soldier Charles Clements
Service Va
Additional Service Rev War
No claim, State records 190
No claim, combination records 190
REMARKS:
No claim as aobve except I 8214
0-3 Chief Division
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1907 Dec 24 Hist to Bert C Thomas aw
Rev War
8214
INVALID
File No 8214
Charles Clements
Priv Rev War
Act June 7th 1832
Index Vol rer Page 69
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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Winnsville VA
December 26

Free
War Department
Pension office 
Washington 
D.C.

Va 21985
86
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Winnsville Fluvanna County
Virginia Dec 25th 1832
To the Honble Secretary at War
Sir
By the request of Charles Clements and Daniel Thacker I enclose their declarations in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of the 7th June 1832
Charles Clements deemed if necessary to procure any additional testimony to his own declaration should it be required, I am instructed to say it will be furnished should he be required to relinquish his present pension by the state of Virginia, he is willing to do so, upon receiving a greater amount from the United States.
In relation to the Declaration of Daniel Thacker it will be perceived, there is some variation between his statement & Jesse Hughes's he states that he marched from Va under Capt Joseph Haden to Hillsborough NC where he was transfered to Capt Fontaines Company in Col Spencers Regiment and that Joel Leftwich was Lieutenant in said Captain Fontaines Company
Jesse Hughes his witness states that they were transfered to Captain Thomas Leftwich's company in Col Stubblefields Regt and that Lieutenant Col Spencer was attached to the same regt.  From the length of time that has expired since, it is not probable that one or the other or both may not have confounded names, or have been mistaken in some particulars.  It is not improbably I think that Leftwich the Lieutenant in Capt Fontaines company might have been taken by Jesse Hughes for a captain; and his Christian name by one or the other misplaced and that Lieutenant Col Spencer might have been taken
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by Daniel Thacker for the Col Commander of the Regiment notwithstanding the difference in the above statements, the general tenor being the same and the respectability of both persons being above suspicion I think there cannot be a doubt but they were in the same service together  Should any communication

be made to either of the above named 

I am requested to ask that it be addressed to the port office "Winsville Va"
I am with great respect
yr obt servant
J Winn