Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 10610, John Edwards, N.C.
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Service                                       Number
N. C.        Edwards, John             S10610

Carded
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Alabama. 19.934
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John Edwards
of Perry Co. in the State of Ala,
who was a Private of Cavalry in the Co commanded
by Captain Hill
of the Regt commanded
by Col. Burn
in the North Caro. line for 18 mo.
Cavalry
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Inscribed on the Roll of Alabama
at the rate of 75 Dollars 00 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
==============================Certificate of Pension issued the 26 day of Sep
1888 and sent to
Henry C. Lea
Marion, Perry, Ala
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Arrears to the 4th of Sept. 1833. 1187.50
Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Mar.'34  37.50
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$225.-
Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by
Wm R. Palmer, Clerk
Book E Vol. 8. Page 45.
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Free
The Honorable Lewis Cass
War Department
Washington City 

Parry C. H. Alee
Nov 1st
Nov 3
Ae
17575
John Edwards
[illegible]
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The State of Alabama  }  Circuit Court
Perry County               } Fall Term 1832

On this the twenty day of October A.D. eighteen hundred & thirty two personally appeared in open Court befor [before] Plotiney T. Harris of said Circuit Court now sitting, John Edwards a resident of Perry County & State of Alabama aged eighty years on the twelfth day of August next.  Who being first duly sworn according to law doth sworn his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress papered [illegible] [illegible] 1832.  That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated [illegible]    That I enlisted for eighteen months in the service under Captain William Hill in Franklin County State of North Carolina as a member of a light horse  company under command of the said Hill in the year seventeen hundred & seventy-seven or eight & the fall season.  Michael Little was the first Lieutenant, John Robertson second.  We marched immediately through North Carolina - South Carolina and Georgia and was stationed in Georgia a Sullivans Fort on the waters of the Attinexha river.  I remained there but a short time, the troops getting sickly & the troops were marched lower down the river to Fort Barrington about a days march from thence again up the Attinexaha river to a place called Bullsborough where the troops were put under the command of Colonel Scriven - whose christian name is not recollected.  At the last mentioned place I was engaged in a battle with the tories assembled in that place in about three quarters of an hour they were repulsed.  From there I marched with the troops to the mouth of Ogeehe river in the last mentioned State ten or fifteen miles below Sunberry remained stationed there a short time & from there we marched to Augusta where I remained stationed until my time expired & was then discharged.   This affiant further states that he has no documentary evidence & that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure as to his service and I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present & declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state.
    
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John  X  Edwards
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Sworn to & subscribed in        }
Court the day and year above  }
Sworn to & subscribed in         }
written                                      }

D. S. Coward   Clerk
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To the 1st Interrogatory this Deponent answers & says he was born on the twelfth day of August seventeen hundred & fifty two in Culpepper County Virginia.

To the 2nd he answers that he has a record of his age in this famaly [family] Bible at his house and knows of no other.

To the 3rd he answers I have stated in my declaration the pace where he lived when he entered service.  I lived a few years afterwards in Culpepper County in Virginia - moved thence to (illegible) County in the State of Georgia thence to Oglethorpe in the same State and thence in the year eighteen hundred & twenty one into Perry County and State of Alabama where he now lives. 

To the 4th interrogatory he answers   I entered the service as stated in the declaration -  I also volunteered for a short time previous to the service above stated & was twice drafted since the service stated in my declaration but my service was of (illegible) importance at those times as we were not engaged so actively.

To the 5 Interrogatory he answers and says he has given as fine an answer to these questions as his memory enables hm in his declaration.

To the 6 Interrogatory he answers   I did receive a discharge at August but from what officer or what has become of it I can not recollect. 

To the 7th Interrogatory he answers  I am known to my neighbors generally & refer you particularly to Nicholas Harder & Claibourn Martin.

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John  X Edwards
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Sworn to & subscribed this day and year aforesaid before me

D. S Coward   Clerk

Mr. John Tubbs a clergyman residing in the County of Perry & State of Alabama and Nicholas Harder and Claibourn Martin residing in the same neighbourhood  [neighborhood] with John Edwards hereby certify that we are well acquainted with the said John Edwards who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be about eighty years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood [neighborhood] where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion. 

Sworn to an subscribed
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the day &  year aforesaid

D S Coward  Clerk                                  John Tubb
                                                               N. Harder
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                                                               Claibourn   X    Martin
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And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation on the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier & served as he states & the court further certifies that it appears to them that (illegible)  Tubb who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the County of Perry & State aforesaid & that Nicholas Harder and Claibourn Martin who have also signed the same are residents of the County of Perry & State aforesaid & are credible persons & that their statement is  (illegible) to credit

P. T. Harris

I David S. Coward, Clerk of the Circuit Court of Perry County, in the State Aforesaid do hereby certify that the forgoing contains the original  (illegible) in the matter of the application of John Edwards for a pension

In testimony where of I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this twelfth day of July eighteen hundred & thirty two.

D. S. Coward
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19.934

No 17575

John Edwards
Perry Co Alabama


Send to Wm Hill

Adm 1 year & 6 months  Priv Cav
$75.


Henry C. Lea
(illegible)

Perry Co. Alabama
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BRIEF in the case of John Edwards
of Perry Co. i the State of Alabama
(Act 7th of June, 1832)

1.  Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?    Court

2.  If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?

3.  How old is he?   Eighty

4.  State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

Period.
Enlisted in 1777 or 8

Duration of Service.
1 year 6 months 0 days

Rank.
Private Co. B

Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.
Gen.
Capt. Hill    Col. Scriven

5.  In what battles was he engaged?  Bullborough

6.  Where did he reside when he entered the service?   Franklin Co. North Carolina

7.  Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence or by the rolls?     traditionary

8.  Are the papers defective as to form or authentication and if so, in what respect?   Yes

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.

Geo B. Whiting, Examining Clerk
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April 17, 1931



Rev. & 1812 Wars Section
ILL

Mrs. Walter Slane
Saguache, Colorado


Dear Madam:

You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim,
S. 10610, that John Edwards was born August 12, 1752 in Culpeper County, Virginia.

He enlisted i the fall of 1777 or 1778, in Franklin County, North Carolina, served in Captain William Hill's light horse Company, was in an engagement at Bullsborough under Colonel Scriven and was discharged at the expiration of eighteen months service.  Soldier stated that he served other short tours, no details given.

After the war, he lived for a few years in Culpeper County, Virginia then moved to Wilkes County, Georgia, and later to Oglethorpe County, Georgia.

He was allowed pension on his application executed July 13 1832, while a resident of Perry County, Alabama, where he moved in 1821 from Oglethorpe, Georgia.

It was not stated that soldier married.

The Revolutionary War records of this bureau fail to show a claim for pension or bounty land on file on account of the services of a John Edwards who was born on the exact date, August 31, 1751, in Cupeper County, Virginia.


Very truly yours,


E. W. MORGAN,
Acting Commissioner.
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State of North Carolina
Secretary of States Office

I William Hill Secretary of State in and for the State aforesaid, do certify that I find on a book of settlements of the revolutionary Army accounts that there were four or five persons of the name  of John Edwards who had accounts for services performed as revolutionary soldiers settled by different board of Commissioners, but having no rolls of the Light Horse Companies who served in said Army, I can not say whether either of them was the present applicant for a pension, but comparing the muster rolls with the book of settlement I think it probable that one of the accounts settled was the account of John Edwards, the person now applying for a pension.

Given under my hand
this 24th August 1833
Wm. Hill
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Saguache Chapter
Daughters of the American Revolution
Saguache, Colorado

Pension Department,
Washington D. C.

Gentlemen - Will you please tell me if you can find in your records the names which follow of Revolutionary soldiers.  Also will you please give any information which you have in regard to them.  
John Edwards, born in Virginia possibly Culpepper Court House on Aug 3 - 1751 - Married to
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SAGUACHE CHAPTER
DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
SAGUACHE, COLORADO

1.  Dolly Gatewood - then to Nancy Brasfield.

Second   David  Campbell of Philadelphia

Third Patrick Slane

Sincerely yours

Mrs. Walter Slane
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1931 - April 17 - Hist to Mrs Walter Slane, ILL

Right side of paper


Rev  War
10610
INVALID.

File No.  10,610
John Edwards
Pri. Rev. War

Act:  June 7th, 1832

Index: - Vol.  A, Page 110

{Arrangement of 1870}
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John Edwards
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those
answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Edwards which require further proof or explanation.

I.  Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?   Yes

II.  Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?   Yes

III.  If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?

IV.  Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?
       Yes

V.  Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout [amount] of pension he is entitled?   Yes

VI.  Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?    Yes

VII.  Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?   Yes

VIII.  Has the Court given their opinion?   Yes

IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate?    Yes

X.  Is the Clerk's seal affixed?  And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?   No
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XI.  Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?     Yes

XII.  If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?

XIII.  If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?

XIV.  If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
        If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
       Has the proper office certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?

XV.  Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?

XVI.  Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?

XII.  Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily?  And, if not, which of them is not so answered?   Yes


EXPLANATORY NOTES.

QUERE V.   In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:   Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B.  who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades;   For ___________year _____months, and ______days, I served as _______________ For  __________ months and ____________days, I served as a ___________; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of declaration is highly objectionable.  It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was eithe rin the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit,

QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment company and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. 

QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.