Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 8512, for John Penny, North Carolina
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Service N.C. Va. 
Penny, John or Penney Fanny 
Number W.8512 Contents
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Eli Penny Depo
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[handwritten] State of Kentucky }sct
Anderson County 
I Jordan H Walker clerk of the county court for the county aforesaid do certify that Johnson Malone where signature so affixed to the foregoing certificate is and was at the time of signing the same a Justice of the Peace in and forsaid county duly commissioned and qualified as such and that full faith and credit are due to all his official acts as such and that said signature is genuine. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of my office this 10th day of April 1839. 
[signed] J H Walker [unknown]
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1179
John Penny 
Anderson Co Ky 
From 1777 private 
three years. 
$80.
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[typed] BRIEF in the case of [handwritten] John Penny 1179 of Andrews Co in the State of Ky 
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? open Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 73 years
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period. 
In 1777.  
Duration of Service. 
Years, Months, Days, 
3 “ “ 
Rank. 
As a Private 
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. 
Gen. Col G Twist
5. In what battles was he engaged? Monmouth
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Portsmouth Va. 
7. Is his [illegible] by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Rolls
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Yes
X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned. 
Examining Clerk.
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We Jordan H Walker a clergyman, residing in the County of Anderson and State of Kentucky & William B Wallace of the same County & State, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Penny who has subscribed and sworn to the written declaration that we believe him to be seventy three years of age; and he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion [signed] Jordan H Walker [and] WB Wallace

Note John Penny further declares on oath that he relinquishes all claim to any pension or annuity except the present that he is on no pension roll in any state for agency [signed]
John Penny

If this application should succeed, the most convenient Bank is the branch of the U.S. bank at Lexington in Kentucky & Post office Lawrenceburg Kentucky

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the court further certifies that it appears to them that Jordan H. Walker who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in [crossed-out] Anderson County that William B. Wallace who has signed the same is a resident in the town of Lawrenceburg & County aforesaid and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit.
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State of Kentucky
Anderson County Sct.
I Nelson C. Johnson, Clerk of the County Court aforesaid, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Penney for a pension.

In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of my office, this 16th day of August 1832 and in the 41st year of the commonwealth. [signed and sealed] N.C. Johnson Clk 

Commonwealth of Kentucky
Anderson County Sct.
I, John Wash, presiding Justice of the County Court for the County aforesaid do certify that Nelson C. Johnson who has signed the foregoing certificate, now is, and was at the time of signing the same, the Clerk of said Court, and full faith and credit is due & should be given to all his official acts.

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand this 18th day of August 1832. [signed] John Wash JP [justice of the peace] AC
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Know all men by these presents, that we John Penny and Thomas White are held and firmly bound unto his Excellency Patrick Henry
Esquire, Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia and his successors in the sum of fifty pounds. To the payment whereof well and truly
to be made for the use of the said Commonwealth, we bind ourselves, our heirs Executors and administrators jointly and severally firmly by these presents, sealed with our seals and dated this 23rd
day of February 1785 (one thousand seven hundred and Eighty five.)

The Condition of this obligation is such that whereas there is a marriage intended shortly to be had and solemnized between the
above bound John Penny. Bachelor and Miss Frances White, Spinster. Now if there shall be no lawful cause to obstruct the said
marriage, then this obligation to be void and of none Effect, else to remain in full force and virtue
John Penney (seal)
Tho. [Thomas] White (seal)
Executed in presence of of
Robert Pollard

State of Virginia
Hanover County, to wit: ⎬
I Philip B. Winston, Clerk of the County Court of Hanover, in the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that the above is a true copy of the Original Marriage License bond of John Penney, now on file in my office, with the exception of the words embraced in brackets

In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County, the twenty first day of December, one thousand Eight hundred and thirty Eight. [signed] Philip B. Winston C.H.C.
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Mrs. F Penny S declaration 4869 undated P. 80 April 20 [unknown mark] – J. Harlan Harrodsburg Ken
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above mentioned. She further declares that she
is still a widow never having married since the
death of said husband John Penny
Fanney Penney
Sworn and subscribed to before me the day and
year first above mentioned at the residence of
Eli Penney.  She the said Fanny Penny
being unable from age and bodily infirmity to
attend before the Court at the Court house.
Given under my hand as a Justice of the Peace
as aforesaid the day and year first above written
J. Malone J. P. A. C.
State of Kentucky  Ss.
Anderson County
I, Jordan H. Walker
Clerk of the Court for the
County aforesaid do hereby certify that Johnson
Malone whose name is subscribed to the foregoing
certificate is a Justice of the Peace and member of
the County Court of said County (which is a
court of record, and I further certify that the
signature purporting to be his is genuine
In witness whereof I have
affixed the seal of my office
and subscribed my hand hereto
this 10th day of April
Eighteen hundred and thirty
nine
J H Walker Clk acc
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Pension was allowed Fanny, widow of John Penny, on an application which was executed April 10, 1839, at which time she was aged seventy-eight years and resided in Anderson County, Kentucky. She signed Fanney Penney.
She died April 27, 1839, place not shown.
The only name of a child that is shown is son Eli (he signed Penney), who, in 1839, was aged forty years and made affidavit in Anderson County, Kentucky.
There are no further family data.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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Having been requested to testify on oath my knowledge
of Mr. John Penny in order to his obtaining a Pension
under the law of Congress passed 7th June 1832 I have
(with [illegible] and Jordan H Walker) on oath certified
as to his age & reputation &c, and I do hereby further
certify that I was engaged in the service of the Revolutionary war
from its commencement in 1775 to the peace of 1780
at which time I ranked as 1st Lieutenant of Artillery and
consequently witnessed in the field [illegible]
conflicts  which gave us our standing among nations
of the Earth. And altho I was not acquainted with
Mr. Penny in that service, I have conversed with him
frequently on the subject of the war, and independent
of his veracity and standing in society he has spoken of
certain occurrences of that day and particularly the
memorable battle of Monmouth which would leave no
doubt on my mind of his service, Mr. Penny himself
is a much respected Minister of the Baptist Church
W B Wallace
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Mrs. Penny [illegible]

Deposition


Pension
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I am personally acquainted with Robert Blackwell Esq. whose name is signed to the annexed deposition.  He is a highly respectable gentleman and formerly a member of the Kentucky legislature.
  J. Harlan, N. C. 
Washington, Dec. 11th 1838
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and have not the least doubt
but that the widow's application
ought to be granted
I am & [illegible]
James Harlan
Col J.L. Edwards
Com of Pensions
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Harrodsburg Kentucky June 19th 1839
Sir, I as the attorney for the heirs of Mrs Fanny Penny made application at the Lexington Bank on yesterday and was informed that the case [had][crossed-out] was not enrolled [illegible] been certified by the Department – I [illegible] be glad that it [illegible][ink-smudged] at your earliest leisure - the death certificate [illegible] fully two months ago. – The clerk also intimated that this pension of attorney was irregular and if you have any forms for this heir of those who were pensioned under act of July 1837 you will confer fairly by enclosing me one and informing me that that the case has been certified to Lexington Bank
Respectfully yours [unknown] [signed] O L Poston.
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Rev. and 1812
Wars Section
EEL
October 21, 1929
Mrs. C. L. Ammen
Care Mrs. Charles R. Hume
Lock Box 158
Anadarko, Oklahoma
Dear Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W.8512, it appears that John Penny or Penney enlisted in 1777, in Portsmouth, Virginia, served in Captain Thomas Bracy's Company, Colonel Gregory Smith's Virginia Regiment and was discharged in March, 1780. He was in the battle of Monmouth and at the storming of Stony Point.
He subsequently enlisted and served in the North Carolina Militia, dates of service and officers names not given, and was in the battles of Guilford and Camden. 
He was allowed pension on his application executed August 13, 1832, at which time he was seventy-three years of age and a resident of Anderson County, Kentucky. It is stated that he was a minister of the Baptist Church.
He died June 19, 1833, in Lexington, Kentucky.
The soldier married February 23, 1785, in Hanover County, Virginia, Miss Frances (or Fanny) White.
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She was allowed pension on her application executed April 10, 1839, in Anderson County, Kentucky, at which time she was seventy-eight years of age. 
In 1839, son Eli Penney was forty years of age. 
There are no further family data. 
Very truly yours, 
EARL D. CHURCH
Commissioner.
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O. W. and N. Division.   3 -- 525.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

JSC
[illegible]  File 8512
Rev

In reply to your request for a statement of the military history of John Penny, 
a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR,
you will find below the desired information as contained in his (& his widow's) applications for pension on file in this Bureau.
(Baptist minister)
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
'77
LENGTH OF SERVICE.  3years
dis   Mch 80

OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN:  Thomas Bracy

COLONEL:  Gregory Smith
STATE.  Va,
Subsequently served in the in the North Carolina militia, no officers or dates stated.

Battles engaged in, Mon. Stony at Guilford & near Camden S. C.  under Gen. Greene.
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Enl. at Portsmouth, Va.
Date of application for pension, Aug. 13. 1832.
Residence at date of application, Anderson Co., Ky.
Age at date of application, 73 date & place of birth not stated.
Remarks: [illegible]. Hanover Co. Va. Feby 23, 1785 Miss Miss Frances White
He d. June 19, 1833 and she was pensioned as "Fanny Penney" on her application exec.
Apl. 10, 1839 in Anderson Co. Ky. while seventy-eight years of age.
1839 Son Eli Penney as 40 years  testified in the claim
Very respectfully,
20581b3m11 - 05
Captain was possibly Thos. Bressic of the State troops.
Commissioner.
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April 3, 1935
XXX
BA-J/MMAF/eel
Mr. E. M. Hilton
330 West 34th Street
New York, New York
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter of February 12, in which you request ten copies of pension certificate of John Penny or Penney, W.8512, Revolutionary War soldier.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited clerical force available for furnishing such information, it has not been possible to make a series of reports for one person or organization. The two official reports attached herewith are such as have been accepted by the various patriotic and historical societies as authentic and will aid you in part, it is hoped.
The copy of former report furnished Mrs. C.L. Annan is returned herewith.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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1907 Feby 8. Hist to Mrs. Sue C. Simpson
1913 July 7. " " Mrs. Mary M. Penney
1929 - Hist. to Mrs. C. L. Ammen
Revolution
Virginia
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 8512

Fanny Penny
Wid(ow) of
John Penny
Pvt Va. line
Act: July 7/38
Index: -- Vol. N.C.   Page 120
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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[hand-stamped] O.W. & N. DIV JAN 29 1907 FILES
2483
Bardstown Ky.
Jan 26 - 1907
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C. 
Old Wars Department.
Dear Sir:-
I am descended from John Penny who was in the Va. State troops and drew a pension from Anderson Co. Ky.

Will you please give me all the information regarding him that you have.
I especially would
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1911
Hon. Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Sir: –
Kindly send me copy of application of JOHN PENNY, of Anderson Co., Kentucky, made Nov. 28, 1832, aged 75 years: services rendered in Virginia, and received land grant in Ky. in 1783, of which we have copy. A descendant wishes to join D. A. R., and data in his application will and greatly in this matter. We do not know name of his wife, nor how many children he then had c. -- but it was a goodly number! Thanking you for this courtesy, I remain, 
Sincerely,
Mrs. C.L. Ammen,
Mrs. Chas. R. Hume,
Lock Box 158,
ANADARKO, OKLA.
[hand-stamped] U.S. Pension Office AUG 19 1929
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Revolutionary claims
Lawrenceburg K [Kentucky] Aug 21
The Honorable Lewis Cass 
Free
Secretary of War Washington D.C. 
[vertically written] P.O. Aug 29, ‘32
No 6179. KY
[numbers, ink-smudged][illegible]
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J. C. PENNEY
330 WEST 34TH STREET
NEW YORK CITY
February 12, 1935.
War Department,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
I am informed that you will furnish copies of Pension Certificates upon application. Will you kindly send me ten copies of Pension Certificate applying on pension claim W. 8512, for Revolutionary soldier, John Penny (or Penney).
The reason for my requesting so many copies is that five persons purpose joining D.A.R. and S.A.R., and ten copies are needed to accompany five applications in duplicate.
I am enclosing herewith copy of letter from Mr. Earl D. Church, setting forth the record.
Very truly yours,
E.M. Hilton
Executive Secretary.
P. S. It is my understanding that there is no charge for obtaining these certificates.
[hand-stamped] Received FEB 25 1935 MAIL SUB.DIV. [illegible] 17
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THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES 
Form VAM-51 12-5-41
BOUNTY LAND WARRANT RECORD CARD*
Division of Veterans’ Administration Archives
NAME Penny, Jonathan GRADE Private LINE New York
WARRANT NUMBER 7602 ACREAGE 100 ISSUED Sept. 9, 1790 to Ezekiel Crane, assignee 
*The information concerning the issuance of warrants carded on this form is found in volumes 2 to 4 of "Land Warrants Issued Prior to 1800” which are registers of bounty land warrants issued to non-commissioned officers and privates under congressional resolutions of September 16, 1776, and subsequent dates. Other records relative to the applications for warrants appear to have been destroyed in the War Department fire of November 9, 1800. Information concerning warrants surrendered to the Federal Government is to be found in General Land Office records in The National Archives.