Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 13422, David Howe, S.C.
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(3-1776)

Service S.C.  
Howe, David

Number S. 13422

Carded
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4058
Kentucky
David Howe
Fleming Co. in the State of Kentucky who was a private in the Comp County of York commanded Captain [James] Hawthorn of the Regt. commanded Col. Sumpter [General Thomas Sumter] in the South Carolina Militia for two years from 1778

Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 83 Dollars 83 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 10th day of January 1833 and sent Col R. M. Johnson H.R 

Arrears to 4th of September 1832 124.99 Semi=anl. allowance ending 4 March 1833 41.66 = $166..65

{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832}

Recorded by Henry  C. Sylvester Clerk, 
Book  D.   Vol. 9   Page 43
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David Howe
Fleming Co.
Reg.

[illegible] proof of service required

Sp. Sol. RM Johnson HR.  
22c Dec 1832

P177.
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BRIEF in the case of David Howe
of Hemming[?] Co in the State of Ky
(Act 7th June, 1832)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?

3. How old is he? 85 years

4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

Period. Oct in 1778 vol. returned March 1779 ent again, in about 10 days, and continued in the service until Nov 1781. having been permitted to return home 3  [illegible] out [illegible] than 2 days at a [illegible], excepting [illegible]

Rank, As a pv. diagon[?]
Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.
Capt. Hawthorn, Col. Neal

5. In what battles was he engaged? Kings Mountain

6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? County of York, S. C. 

7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary
Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned. 

HHG Examining Clerk
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State of Kentucky Fleming County David Howe
On this 3rd day of December 1832 personally appeared in open open Court the County Court of Fleming Now sitting Dave Howe a resident of Kentucky and the County of Fleming aged Eighty Five Years, who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his Oath  make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of Act of Congress passed June 7th 1832
That he entered the service of the UStates under the following named officers and served as herein stated: That in the month of October 1778 he volunteered as a dragoon soldier in the County of York  State of South Carolina & furnished his own horse in the company of dragoons commanded by Capt [James] Hawthorn & the regiment of Col. Neal [Thomas Neel] and was marched through S. Carolina on to the state of Georgia and continued in the said service being kept in the state of Georgia & S. Carolina until the month of March 1779 when he was permitted to return to York County and was dismissed from service by Capt Hawthorne and remained at home about 10 days, when the solicitation of Col. [Thomas] Sumter (afterwards Gen. Sumter)  he again volunteered as a militia soldier joined the company of Infantry Commanded by Capt. Hawthorn and the Regiment of Col. Sumter and participated in the following Battles
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in the Battle in June or July 1779 fought on the Catawba River Commanded by Col. Sumter and shortly afterwards participated in the battle fought at a place called Rocky Mount. Col. Sumter commanded & shortly afterwards in the battle fought at Hanging Rock (Col Sumter commanded) in which Battle Col. Wade Hamton [Hampton] was wounded, he states that he was not in any battles of consequence for some time almost daily engaged in skirmishes with the British Tories; until the Battle of the mouth of Fishing Creek on the Catawba River Sumter commanded and was defeated, the next General battle he was in was the fall 1780 on Kings Mountain in North Carolina, Col. [William] Campbell commanded; (he, Howe, was commanded by Capt Hawthorn who commanded S. Carolina militia) after the Battle of Kings Mountain he was marched to South Carolina and was kept guarding the Country laying Between York County S. Carolina and the City of Charlestown,  until the month of November 1781 when he states he was dismissed, by Col. Hawthorn former Capt of the County of York South Carolina until further orders, and was not again called on; having served in the S. Carolina Militia as stated before
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from October 1778 to November 1781 only being permitted to return home some 3 or four times and in no instances remained at home longer than 2 days at any one time except after his first tour as before stated

he states that he was born on the 8th of march 1747 in the County of Cumberland Pennsylvania & moved to York County of S. Carolina with his father in 1772. That he has a record of his age now in his possession set down in his family Bible which was taken from his Father's Bible his birth having been written by his Father, after quitting the service in 1781 he resided in York County South Carolina until the Fall 1792 when he moved to Kentucky for the last Thirty Six Years past in the County of Fleming his parents place of residence he never did receive a written discharge he states that he is well  known to Benjamin Northcott a clergyman his neighbor & many others
That he has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no persons whose testimony he can procure of which he can forward who can testify to his service;  He hereby  relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension
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or annuity except the present & declares that  his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any state.
Sworn & subscribed to the day & Year   aforesaid [his X mark] David Howe

Mr. Benjamin Northcoat a Clergyman residing in Fleming County (Ky) and Seth Botts - residing in the same County - State hereby certify that we are well acquainted with David Howe who has testified and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be Eighty five Years of age that he is affected and  he lived in the neigborhood when he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn  + subscribed 
this day  + Year aforesaid
s/ Benjamin Northcoat Seth Botts

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigations of the matter and after the interrogation prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states.  And the Court therefore  certifies , that it appears to them that Benjamin Northcoat who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman and resides in the County of Fleming and that Seth Botts - who has also signed the same is a resident of the same County and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I Joshua Stockton Clerk of the Court of the County of Fleming do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the mater of the application of David Howe for a pension.

In testimony where of I have here unto set my hand seal of the office this 3rd day of December 1832.
Joshua Stockton clk
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Copied from A.W.J. hist. Apr. 25 - 1927.

June 9, 1931. 
Rev.&1812 Wars Section. ADY [illegible handwriting]
Mr. Kenneth P. Howe,
23o4 Woodbourne Avenue, 
Louisville, Kentucky. 

Dear Sir: 
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.13422, that David Howe was born March 8, 1747 in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. 
He moved with his father (his name not stated) in 1772, to York County, South Carolina, and while residing there, he enlisted in October 1778 and served in Captain Hawthorne's Company of Dragoons, Colonel Neal's South Carolina Regiment, and served until March 1779; ten days after he was called out, and served in Captain Hawthorne's Company, Colonel Sumter's Regiment, he was in an engagement on the Catawba River, and the battles of Rocky Mount, Hanging Rock, Fishing Creek, King's Mountain, and served until November 1781. 
He was allowed pension on his application executed December 3, 1832 while a resident of Fleming County, Kentucky. 
There are no data on file as to his family. 
The Revolutionary War records of this bureau fail to afford any information in regard to John Howe as described by you. 
Very truly yours, 
E.W. MORGAN, 
Acting Commissioner.
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1927 - Apr. 25 Hist. to Mrs. W. L. Muir AWF
1931 June 9. Hist. to Kenneth P. Howe, ADY
Rev War
13422
INVALID. 
File No. 13 422
David Howe
Priv. Rev. War
Act: June 7th 1832
Index: -- Vol. 1, Page 179
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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David Howe
Fleming Co from 1778 Private of Calvary and Infantry, 2 years $83.33
I do certify that Isaac Howe a man of respectability credible in his statement or oath 
Rhm Johnson
'24 Jun 1832
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of David Howe which require further proof or explanation. 
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? 
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes 
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? 
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? 
XIV. If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility? yes
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under his seal of office? yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? 
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 

EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: 
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposits and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For ---- year ---- months and ----- days, I served as a ------. For ---- months and ------ days, I served as a ------; and for such service I claim a pension."
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which the applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase [begin italicize] about three or four months [end italicize] is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service 
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. 
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers. 
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must pass under the seal of office to the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper for being improperly attached to the certificate. 
The applicant David Howe, must furnish proof of his service stating particularly the different times, their durations, and a detailed account of all the circumstances attending his service .
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Bardstown, Ky
Feb. 26 - 1927
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir 
I would like to get a copy of David Howe's application for a pension.
This is the following information that I have already gotten:
David Howe was a Revolutionary War Soldier.
He served as a Private of Infantry and Cavalry in the South Carolina Militia.  Placed on the U.S Pension Roll, January 10, 1833, at which time he was 87 years old, which would make the time of his birth 1746.
Authorities for services: U.S. Pension Office, Washington, D. C. 1896 Year Book "Sons of the American Revolution
at the time David Howe was granted his Pension he was living in Fleming County and died
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in the county.
Thanking you for any help you can give me.
Respt
Mrs. W. L. Muir
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Louisville, Ky.,
May 6, 1931.
Pension Dept., 
Department of Interior,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sirs
Can you give me any information in regard to the following persons:
Joseph Goddard, private - Virginia line (Revolutionary War); placed on the pension roll March 25, 1833 ($80.00), at the age of 73, while he was a resident of Fleming County, Ky.
David Howe, private of infantry and cavalry, South Carolina Militia (Revolutionary War); placed on the pension roll Jan. 10, 1833 ($83.33) while residing in Fleming County, Ky.
Revolutionary War Pension Clam S.13422.
John Howe (brother of above David Howe), born Aug. 26, 1740. Saw service in Revolutionary War. Was taken prisoner by the British when they captured Charleston, S.C.; placed in the hold of a ship and taken out to sea for safe-keeping. Was released the next day after his wife, Jane Dunlap Howe, had gone to the British Commanding Officer and interceded for him. He later removed to Fleming County, Ky.
Jane Dunlap Howe (wife of John Howe), born March 16, 1743. Aided in furnishing supplies to various small ships of the American Navy. Later removed to Fleming County, Ky.
I would like to have the date and place of birth, name of parents, name of engagements in which they took part, and any other information in regard to any of the above.  If the records of your department do not give this information, possibly you could direct me to some other department that may be able to furnish it.
I would appreciate any assistance you can give me.
Yours truly,
s/ Kenneth P. Howe,
2304 Woodbourne Ave.,
Louisville, Ky.

Bureau stamp on left of signature
[illegible]
May 8 1931
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
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Rev. and 1812
Wars Section.
April 25, 1927
Mrs. W. L. Muir
Bardstown
Ky
Madam:
I have to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 13423,, it appears that David Howe was born March 8, 1747 in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania.
He moved with his father (his name not stated) in 1772, to York County, South Carolina, and while residing there, he enlisted in October 1778 and served in Captain Hawthorne's [James Hawthorn] Company of Dragoons, Colonel Neal's [Thomas Neel] South Carolina Regiment, and served until March 1779; ten days after, he was called out, and served in Captain Hawthorne's Company, Colonel Sumter's [Thomas Sumter] Regiment; he was in an engagement on the Catawba River, and the battles of Rocky Mount, Hanging Rock, Fishing Creek, King's Mountain, and served until November 1781.
He was allowed pension on his application executed December 3, 1832, while a resident of Fleming County, Kentucky.  There is no data on file as to his family.
Respectfully

WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.