Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 42454, for Samuel Tallmadge, New York
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Service New York
Tallmadge, Samuel or Talmage
Number S. 42454
B. L. Kt 2188_200_Lieut
Issued Aug. 10 1790 to Stephen Lush assignee No papers.
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Letter [Hon} E. B. [Olds] August 16/50

7865
New York
Samuel Tallmadge of Charleston in the state of New York who was a Lieutenant in the regiment commanded by Colonel Livingston of the New York line, for the term of seven years.

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 20 Dollars per month, to commence on the 6th of April, 1818.
Certificate of Pension issued the 20th of Mar 1819 and sent to the Hon. Benjamin Tallmadge, Litchfield, Cont.
Arrears to 4th of mar 1819 10 mos  219.24
Semi-anl. all'ce ending 4th Sept. 1819  120.00
$339.24
Revolutionary claim, Act 18th March, 1818.
Continued on the Roll under the law of [ ] notification sent to I Dodge 8 July 1820 - Johnston- New York
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[Captain} Samuel Talmages application to be continued on the Pension list
June, 1820
continue
7865 20 Mar 1819
notification enclosed to Com Irving Dodge Esq Johnstown New York 8 July, 1820
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Northern District of the State of New York Montgomery County 
On this 13th day of June 1820 personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common pleas, in and for the county of Montgomery, It being a court of record having original jurisdiction in all civil cases arising within said County according to the principals of the common law this court having existed prior to the adoption of the Constitution the first Judges thereof being recognized In the 25th article of the Constitution of the State of New York & the powers thereof defined & stated in the 2d Volume New York R Laws page 141 - Samuel Talmage residing in the town of Charlestown said County aged sixty four years, on the twenty third day of November last, who being first sworn according to Law doth on his oath declare that he served in the Revolutionary War as follows, that he entered the army as Clerk or orderly sergeant in the 4th New York Regt Commanded then by Colonel Livingston in a company commanded by Captain Daniel Rose in the year 1776, that he served as serjeant until the 28th June 1779 when he was appointed Ensign in the 4th New York Regt then commanded by Col. Levingston and his commission bearing the above date is here presented in Court that he afterward received the commission of Lieutenant in the 2d New York Regt. Commanded by Col. VanCourtlandt which commission is over in the office of the Secretary at War at Washington that he served in the whole seven years and until
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the army was disbanded and that he was a pensioner of the United States and the number of his certificate is 7865 &  his declaration the 6th April 1818
And the said Samuel Talmage do further Solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United on the 18th day of March 1818 and that I have not since that time, by gift sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with interest thereby so to diminish it as to being myself within the provisions of an act of congress entitled and Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War passed on the 18th March 1818 & I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or securities contracts or debts due to me nor have I any income than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed & by me subscribed. 
Real and personal property none, except some cloathing and bedding all my property having been surrendered to my creditors & that far from sufficient to pay 1/4 my debts.
Samuel Talmage
Subscribed sworn to, and declared on the 13th day of June 1820 in open Court- 
John McCarthy Clerk
The said Samuel further says that his only occupation is that of a farmer which he is now unable to pursue on account of age & debility that he has a wife by name Mary aged 66 years & one daughter
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named Mary aged 37 belonging to his family living with him & that he supposes the daughter may be able to support herself.
Samuel Talmage

State of New York Montgomery County Clerks Office
I John McCarthy Clerk of the said County do hereby certify that the foregoing oath and the schedule thereto annexed are truly copied from the Record of the court of common pleas of the said County and I further certify that it is the opinion of the said Court that the said Samuel Talmage has no property to value. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court on this 22d day of June 1820
Jn McCarthy
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Samuel Talmadge
New York roll
Admitted
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State of New York
Montgomery County
On the sixth day of April in the year eighteen hundred and eighteen, before me the subscriber first judge of the court of common pleas for the county aforesaid, personally appears Samuel Talmadge aged sixty two years resident in the town of Charleston and county of Montgomery and State aforesaid who being by me first duly Sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval Services of the united States in the revolutionary War. That the said Talmadge enlisted upon long Island county of Suffolk and State of New York in a company commanded by Lutain Daniel Roe, in Colonel Henry B. Levingstons Regiment, that said enlistment was in the month of May seventeen Hundred and seventy six, in the New York line and continued in the service of the united States untill the close of the war_ and this Deponent further saith that he was promoted to the rank of Ensign to take rank as such from the Ninth day of November Seventeen Hundred & seventy seven and on the twenty Seventh day of October Seven Hundred eighty One took rank as a Lieutenant as will agreed by the accompanying commission in which capacity he this deponent served untill the close of the war, when he was dismissed at Newburgh County of Orange and State of New York and this deponent further saith that he is in reduced circumstances and needs the assistance of his country for Support and that he doth herby relinquish all and every claim to any and every pension heretofore allowed him by the Laws of the united States and this deponent
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further saith that he was at the taking of Burgoyne and Cornwallis and was also in Seventy nine with General Sullivan on a Western expedition against the Six Nations of Indians. 
Sam Tallmadge
Subscribed Sworn and Declared the day and year aforesaid
Before me Alex Sheldon first judge of Montgomery County
I Alexander Sheldon First judge of the court of Common pleas for Montgomery county do certify, that it appears to my Satisfaction that the said Samuel Tallmadge did serve in the revolutionary War as Stated in the preceding declaration, against the common enemy and I now transmit the proceeding and testimony taken and [hud] before me to the Secretary of the Department of War, pursuant to the Directions of the aforementioned act of Congress dated at Charleston County of Montgomery and State of New York April 6th [HH]  Alex Sheldon First judge of Said County
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State of New York Montgomery County
I Alex Sheldon first judge of the Court of Common pleas for Montgomery county do further certify that I am well acquainted personally with the within named Samuel Tallmadge and know him to be in reduced circumstances, and absolutely to need the assistance of his country for support given under my hand at Charleston county aforesaid this 16th day of July HH
Alex Sheldon First Judge of Montgomery county
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The United State of America in Congress Assembled
To Samuel Talmadge Gentleman Greeting We reposing special trust and confidence in your Patriotism, Valour, Conduct and Fidelity Do by these presents constitute and appoint you to be a Lieutenant in the Second New York Regiment in the Army of the United States, to take rank as such from the twenty seventh day of October 1781.  You are therefore, carefully and diligently to discharge the duty of as Lieutenant by doing and performing all manner of things thereunto belonging And we do strictly charge and require all Officers and Soldiers under your command to be obedient to your orders as Lieutenant And you are to observe and follow such orders and directions, from time to time, as you shall receive from this, or a future Congress of the United States, or Committee of Congress for that purpose appointed a Committee of the States, or Commander in chief for the time being of the Army of the United States, or any other your Superior Officer, according to the rules and discipline of War, in pursuance of the trust reposed in you.  This Commission to continue in force until revoked by this, or a future Congress, the Committee of congress beforementioned, or a Committee of the States.
Witness His Excellency Elias Boudinot Esq President of the Congress of the United States of America at Philadelphia the third day of June A.D. 1783 and in the Seventh Year of our Independence.
Elias Boudinot
By order of Congress B [Smith]
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O.W. & N. Div.
Department of the Interior, M. E. C. 
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C., July 9, 1894
Respectfully returned to Mr. C. T. Conover, Seattle, Wash.
with the information that the courtesy of furnishing the military history of Revolutionary solders in extended by this Bureau when the same is desired by descendants for historical and genealogical purposes only, and then only when the soldier or his widow applied for pension, their papers being the principal source from which data is collected for a report.  The history of not more than two soldiers can be furnished to each applicant because of the large number of such requests and the time and labor it is necessary to expend upon each report. 
For purposes of identification the soldier's full name should be furnished, his place of residence before and after service (town, county, and State, if possible), and the christian name of his widow, if one survived him. 
Please return all papers with your reply.
Pension USA Jul 27 1894 Office
Wm Lockren Commissioner
13604 b--3m
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Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.
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Springfield, Ohio July 30
Dear Sir:
Samuel Tallmadge, an uncle of Ex- senator Tallmadge of New York, served in the continental army, in the War of the Revolution, as an officer, from the commencement to the close of the war. A part of the time he was a Lieutenant, and a part Captain. He drew a pension for  some two or three years before his death. He died 25 years ago.  His sons suppose he drew under the resolution of Congress of 1780, though of this they are not certain.  They believe they are entitled to the pension which he failed to draw, except the last two or three years.  The papers are on file in the Pension office showing the rank he held and that he was entitled to pension, and which I suppose they are entitled to draw.  They are ready to furnish proof that they are his children. Will you be kind enough to examine this case and report to me
Yours etc. 
E.G. Dial
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[O. W Dev]

Pension 
USA Jul 27 1894 
Office
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I. L. Crawford Prst   C.T. Conover, V. Prst & Treas.  E.C. Baird, Secty.
Incorporated under the State Laws.
References :  Every Bank and Business Man in Seattle
Crawford & Conover.
Real Estate and financial Brokers.
Dealers solely in Gilt edge Real Estate, Mines and Investments.
226.227.& 228 Bailey Building Seattle Washington, July 20, 1894
Honl Wm. Lochren,
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:- Referring to the enclosed memorandum from your office, I beg that you will send me a certificate regarding the military history of a Revolutionary ancestor as shown by the records of your Department:  Name of soldier :-- SAMUEL TALLMADGE
Place of residence before service -- BROOKHAVEN, N.Y. or RHINEBECK, DUTCHESS COUNTY, N.Y.
Place of residence after service, -- RHINEBECK, DUTCHESS COUNTY, NEW YORK,  and CHARLESTON, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, NEW YORK.
Date of death -- APRIL 1, 1825
Christian name of Widow -- MARY, who survived him less than a month. 
Samuel Tallmadge was a captain and a distant relative writes me that there is a letter from his still extant bearing date 1819, which says: " I have received a certificated from the War Department giving me a claim on the Branch Bank, N.Y. of U.S., of $20 per month, first payment due Sept. 4, next" ( that is Sept. 1819)
Thanking you in advance for the courtesy, I am, Very respectfully yours, 
C T Conover
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42454
Invalid.
Revy
File No. 42454
Samuel Talmadge
Lieut New York
Act: 18 March 18
Index:- Vol. 5, Page 501
Arrangement of 1870
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1929 Apr. 13 Photos to Alexander C. Flick & Fin, Div. ntfd. A. D. Y.
1894 Aug 17 Hist to C T Conover Eq
Seattle Wash
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Incorporated under the state laws
References: Every Bank and Business Man in Seattle
Crawford & Conover
Real Estate and Financial Brokers Seattle, Washington 
June 26, 1894.
The United States Pension Office, Washington D.C.
Dear Sirs:- I wish to secure a certificate from the Pension Department as to what the records show regarding the services of an ancestor in the Revolutionary Army.  Please advise me whether a charge is made for such a certificate and if so how much, that I may remit. 
Yours respectfully, C T Conover
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Pension  USA Jul 27 1894 Office

Pension  USA Jul 6 1894 Office
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Washington City 6th Aug. [1850 1852]
J. L. Edwards
Sir
I am requested to inclose you the within letter from GE Dial Esquire with a request that you transmit through me an immediate answer.  Perhaps the Communication could have been referred to some other Bureau. If so will you please give it the proper directions?

Yours truly
Edwin B Olds
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Hon. E. B. Olds 16 Aug 1850
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Pension Office August 16th 1850
Sir
In Answer to the enquiry contained in the letter of E. G. Dial as to the claim of the Heirs of Samuel Talmage lat a pensioner on the New York Rolls under the act of 18 March 1818. for service rendered in the New York Line as a Leutenant which accompanied your communication of the 6th instant. I have the honor to state that there is no law giving to Children a pension on account of service rendered by their Father in the War of Revolution. In cases where the officer or soldier is entitled to a pension which he failed to receive during his life the children upon the production of proper proof of heir ship may obtain what was due him but nothing more.
In this case Talmage received his pension to the time of his death We know of nothing further due him to be paid to his children. 
Honorable E. B. Olds
House of Representatives
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Submit in duplicate
1-681
Phone Branch 476
All inquiries regarding this job should refer to Requisition No. 31330
Requisition for Duplicating, Addressograph Photostat, and Blue Print Work. 
Department of the Interior
Washington
Chief, Division of Publications, Room G 137.
April 8, 1929
Please furnish work specified below.
Bureau ordering Pension. Deliver to Room No. 5033.
(All copy for duplicating work should be plain and written in elite type, exactly line for line as it is to appear on finished job.)
Title and description of job photostatic copies of 9 pages from Revolutionary War pension claim of Samuel Tallmadge, N.Y. Troops, S. 42454
No of copies 1 of each
 Shall form be kept standing? ......... days
For further information see Mrs. M. M. H. Finch
Room No. 50533 Phone No. 541
Approved A D Wilkinson Chief Clerk of Bureau
Margaret M. H. Finch Chief of Branch 
Note:  No order made "Special" unless statement showing necessity is written below and approved by Chief Clerk of Bureau ordering.
Check work desired
Duplicate
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Addressograph from lists
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Photostat  X   Size actual  Official Use?                 Repay? Yes $1.35
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M. O. #146891 - $1.35
Finance Division Bookkeepers Desk Apr 4 1929 Bureau of Pensions
Mr. E. W. Morgan Acting Commissioner
Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington D.C. 
April first 1929
Dear Mr Morgan:
Complying with your communication of March 25th, I am inclosing you a money order for $1.35 to cover photostats of the nine pages of papers relating the Revolutionary War pension claim of Samuel Tallmadge.  Thanking you for this courtesy, I am
Very truly yours
A. C. Flick

ACF:MBH
Inc.
Revolutionary & 1812 Wars Section
Apr 3 1929
Bureau of Pensions
Remarks
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Rev.&1812 Wars Section.
[illegible] UNVERSITY OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK'DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
ALBANY
DIVISION OF ARCHIVES AND HISTORY
ALEXANDER C. FLICK STATE HISTORIAN
March 25, 1929.

Alexander C. Flick,
The University of the State of New York,
Albany, New York.
Sir:
I advise you that photostatic copies of papers on file
in Revolutionary War pension claim of Samuel Tallmadge, or
Talmage, will be furnished you upon request at the rate of
fifteen cents a page with twenty-five cents extra for certification
if that is desired.
The number of pages to be copied is nine.
[handwritten] 15
9
1.35

The proper amount should be forwarded to this bureau
by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior.
[handwritten] Commission 1 p
 Apl 6 1818 2 p
" Jun 13 1820
Let. E. G. Dial Springfield, Ohio July 30 1 p
Br. letter Aug. 16 1850 1 p
Ctf. Jacket 1 p

Respectfully,
E. W. MORGAN,
Acting Commissioner.
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Pension Bureau
War Department
Washington, D. C.
March
14th
1929
Dear Sirs:

The State of New York is printing orderly books
kept by Samuel Tallmadge, who served in the Revolution
from the State of New York as a member of the 4th New York
Regiment. Later on he was transferred to another
regiment.
I find in a letter written 1819 he stated that he
had just received his pension certificate from the War Department. Apparently, he was placed on the pension
as a lieutenant of the New York Line, in 1820.
I wish to use the data connected with his pension papers for a biographical sketch which I am preparing to be printed with the orderly books, and shall be
greatly obliged if you will supply me with photostats of the same.

Very truly yours
A.C. Flick
A. C. Flick
ACF: MBH
[stamp] PENSION U.S. OFFICE MAR 16 1929