Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 13665, for John Knapp, Connecticut
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(3-1776)

SERVICE Conn.
Knappe, John
NUMBER S. 13665

CONTENTS
[handwritten] crd'd
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[left side]
20.8.41
New York
[line]
John Knapp
Putnam Co in the State of New York
who was a Private in the Comp commanded
by Captain Brown
of the [unclear]Reft.[/unclear] commanded
by Col. Waterbury in the Count
[illegible] for 1 year 13 days
[line]
Inscribed on the Roll of New York
at the rate of 41 Dollars 66 Cents per annum,
commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
[line]
Certificate of Pension issued the 9 day of Oct
1833 and with clamant
[unclear]Phelpstown[/unclear]
[line]
Arrears to the 4th of Oct 33 $104.16
Semi-anl. allowance ending [illegible] 20.83
$124.99

Revolutionary Claim, 
Act June 7, 1832.

Recorded by G.C. Stiles Clerk

Book E. Vol. 4 Page 64

[written vertically]
Wrong sent. Duplicate issued and delivered to Hon A. Ward 26 Dec 1833

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1889
June 14 Dr T. K. Tuthill brefnotes Prior

Date of death not an KB
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State of New York Putnam County
 ss: I Jonathan Morehouse Clerk of the County of Putnam do hereby certify that the annexed declaration of John Knapp and the affidavit of David Knapp, Timothy Wood & Henry Haight which is also hereto annexed are the original papers upon which the opinion of the court was given in the matter of the application of
John Knapp for a pension, and I do further certify that David Knapp before whom the additional affidavit of the said John Knapp amending his declaration was taken on the first day of June in the year of our Lord 1833 a Justice of the peace in & for the County of Putnam duly commissioned and sworn, and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his signature in the jurate to the said affidavit to be genuine that he the said David Knapp has been such justice for many years
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand
and affixed my seal of office as such Clerk this
thirteenth day of June in the year of our Lord 1833
Morehouse Clk
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John Knapp
Pension papers
14514
I certify that the certificate which was
opened in this case has not been red.[received?] & that believe that it has been miscarried
A. Ward. M.C.

Issue Duplicate
to Genl Ward
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State of New York County of Putnam}ss
On this 15th day of October in the year of our Lord 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Court of Ayer & Seaminer, no setting, John Knapp a resident of the town of Philipstown in the County of Putnam & State of New York aged eighty one years, who being first duly sworn according to
law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated
That in the month of May in the year 1775 the declarant in the town of Stainford, County of Fairfield & State of Connecticut enlisted for a tour of duty in the company commanded by Captain Sylvanus Brown, Lieutenant Jonathan Whiting, Joseph Samuel Hayes in Col David Waterburys regiment. The company moved to a place called Horse Neck & remained there two or three weeks, then moved to Garling & remained there two or three weeks, then went to New York & remained there until the Regiment went up the North River in sloops to Albany, shortly after arriving at Albany marched to Half moon point, after a week or two the regiment marched to Fort Edward, from Fort Edward a part of the Regiment marched to White Hall & a part by the way of Lake George to Ticonderoga, this detachment went by the way of
Lake George, the regiment again united at Ticonderoga from thence they went in Batteaus to Crown Point, from thence they marched down the lake to Grand Hols where they remained one night
long enough to cook some victuals, thence they procceded to the Isle au naix. & there remained some time, Both General Schuyler & General Montgomery were there, whilst they were
there they were making preparations to lay siege to the Fort at St Johns, they marched to St Johns landed & draw the enemy into the woods, but did not then attack the fort, on the part of the
Americans there were nine men killed & twenty or thirty wounded, not being protected from the bombs from the fort. They retreated about a mile when it was concluded to return to the Isle au Naix, Gen Schuyler became unwell & went to Ticonderoga
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General Montgomery then took the command & very soon they made the second attempt on the Fort at St Johns landed at the same place where they landed on the first time they came there and then lay siege to the fort, and the siege continued over forty days & finally had to cut off all communication, three [illegible]
were erected to reduce the fort. & they finally surrendered, & it was then said that the prisoners amounted to near six hundred with those taken at Chamble. From St Johns they marched to La Praise & there stayed a few days, & from thence went to Montreal, which place was then without resistance the troops having abandoned it & shewed its cannon in the citadel, remained there a few days. When Waterburys regiment (it being the 16th of November,) many nearly served the terms of enlistment.. some reenlisted to go to Luluck & others returned with the Col. returned the same way they went, this declarant continued with the Col. until he arrived at [unclear], except that declarant returned by Lake George & the Col by White Hall but they met again in Albany. It was on the 25th of Decr. that they landed at [unclear] in Winchester County where each one was permitted to go where he pleased. This service was eight months within a very few days
And this declarant further says that in the following year. 1776 he resided in Phillipstown within the company of Capt John Haight & was enrolled in the same. The captain was ordered to furnish a certain number of man for five months. The company was classed for the purpose of furnishing each class a man. The declarant volunteered to serve for the class to which he belonged & was directed to refer to Fort Montgomery, he then lived about three miles from the fort.. he went to Fort Montgomery to join the regiment, which was commanded by Col Umphrey. The captains name was Bornum, but very soon after declarent arrived at the fort he enlisted into the artillery with the consent of his Capt. Capt Seward commanded the company of Artillery in which he enlisted, declarant continued to serve the whole period of five months in the artillery all the time being spent in and about the fort. Gen. James Clinton commanded the fort
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during the whole of the time declarant served there at the [unclear]peration[/unclear] of the period for which he enlisted he was dischared & returned to Philipstown
The declarant has no documentary evidence & he knows of no persons whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service.

The declarent hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State
The declarant was born in the town of Stamford in the State of Connecticut in the year 1757. Has no record of his age. But there is a record of his age in the Luon clerks office in Stanford. He was living in Stamford when he first entered the service He has lived ever since the revolutionary war, in the town of Philipstown or the adjoining town of Fishkill, the greater part of the time he has lived in Philipstown & has resided there for the last six years
He volunteered on both occasions when he went into the service General Schuyler, General Montgomery, General Wooster, Col Waterbury, Capt McPherson aid to Gen Montgomery, Capt
VanBeuragard (aid to Gen Schuyler, continued with the army at St John) & Col Hobby, were among the officers in the army where declarant served in 1775, General Clinton & Col Umphrey, were at Fort Mongomery when declarant was in service at that place
Declarant never recd any written discharge from his services
The declarant is known in the neighborhood where he lives to Da and Knapp Esquire a Justice of the peace, to Timothy Wood and to Henry Haight, and who he believes can testify to his character for veracity & good behaviors & their belief in his service as a soldier in the revolution
John Knapp
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year
aforesaid Morehouse Clerk of said Court
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We David Knapp, Timothy Wood, & Henry Haight residing in Philipstown in Putnam County do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Knapp who has signed & sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be eighty one years of age, that he is reputed & believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion

David Knapp
Timothy Wood
Henry Haight

Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Morehouse Clerk of said Court

And the said court do hereby certify & declare this opinion after the investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states. and the court further certifies that appears to them that and Knapp, Timothy Wood and Henry Haight, who have signed the preceeding certificate are residents of Phillipstown in Putnam County that they are credible persons & their statement entitled to credit
Charles H. Ruggles Presiding Judge
Fred Stone
Bennet Boyd Judges

Jonathan Morehouse Clerk of the Court of Oyer & Termince of Putnam County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in the matter of the application of John Knapp for a pension In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 16th day of October AD 1832
J Morehouse
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State of New York
Putnam County ss: Personally appeared before me
the undersigned a justice of the peace in & for the County
of Putnam, John Knapp of the town of Philipstown
in said County, who being by me duly sworn doth
depose & say that by reason of old age and the consequent 
loss of memory he cannot swear positively as
to the precise length of his service, but according to the
best of his recollection he served not less than the periods 
mentioned below as a private in Capt Sylvanias Brown
company in Colonel David Waterburys regiment not
less than seven and a half months. - For a period not
less than five months, as a private, under Captain
Barnum and Captain Seward, for which service
I claim a pensions - and the said John Knapp
further swears that he has no documentary evidence of
his service and that there is no evidence which he can
obtain to show his service, other than that of general
reputation & belief which accompanies his declaration
John Knapp
Sworn & Subscribed this first day
of June 1833 before me
David Knapp a Justice of
the peace in & for Putnam County
[from page behind ant bottom]
Isle an Naix, Gen Schuyler become unwell & went to Leander
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VETERANS ADMINISTRATION
WASHINGTON April 13, 1924
BA-J/EEL
John Knapp- S13665

Honorable L.J.. Dickinson
United States Senate
Washington, D.C.

My dear Senator:

Reference is made to your letter of April 9, with which you
enclosed one from Mr. Henry McSweeny, of Whitten, Iowa, also letter
to Mr. McSweeny from the Adjutant General of the state of Connecticut, 
both of which are returned herewith as requested by you.
It is noted that Mr. McSweeny desire information in regard to
Justus and Peter Weed and John Knapp, all of Stamford, Connecticut.
soldiers of the Revolutionary War, but that he does not desire the
record of the John Knapp, who, in 1840, was a pensioner residing
in Fairfield County, Connecticut, but desires the record of an older
John Knapp.

A careful search of the Revolutionary War records has been made
and no record found of a claim for pension or bounty land having been
made to the United States based upon the military service in that war
of Justus or Peter Weed or Wead. Such claims are the source of the
data furnished by the Veterans Administration. The record of another
John Knapp, who served with the Connecticut Troops, has been found.
According to the statement of this John Knapp, made when applying for
pension in 1832, he was slightly older than the above noted John Knapp,
of Fairfield County, Connecticut, and his history is therefore furnished
you, the data for which were obtained from pension claim, S.13665, based
upon his service in the Revolutionary War.

John Knapp was born in 1752, exact date not shown, in Stamford,
Connecticut. The names of his parents are not given.

While residing in said Stamford, John Knapp enlisted in May, 1775,
served as a private in Captain Sylvanus Brown's Company, Colonel David
Waterbury's Connecticut Regiment, went on the expedition to Canada,
was in the siege of Fort St. John and was discharged in December, 1776, Count
having served seven and one-half months. He moved to Phillipstown,
Putnam County, New York, and in 1776, enlisted there in Captain John

[in left margin]
Identified this sol in this service in Conn. Book could not identify him in the NY service
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[in left margin]
Found a Capt John Haight also a Col Humphrey
but no Capt Barnum or Seward [end]

Haight's Company of militia of said Phillipstown; was ordered to Fort
Montgomery, where he joined Captain Barnum's Company, Colonel Umphrey's
(probably meant for Humphrey) New York Regiment, but soon thereafter was
transferred to Captain Seward's New York Company of Artillery entire
of this service five months.

He was allowed pension on his application executed October 15, 1832,
while a resident of Phillipstown, New York. He stated that he had also
resided in the adjoining town of Fishkill after the Revolutionary War
but did not give the date of his residence there.

There is no reference to wife or children.

In 1852, one David Knapp was a justice of the peace for said Putnam
County, New York; no relationship to the soldier was shown and there are
no further family data.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name
and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary
War pensioner, John Knapp (S. 13665), you should address the
Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this
city, citing the following data:

John Knapp, Certificate No. 20841, issued October 9, 1833, rate
41.66 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, New York
agency.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator.
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Payments to be made
at New York
by Pres. U.S. Bank
Agent for paying Pensioners
in the Agency of
New York
Recorded in the Pension Office,
in Book E. Vol 1,
Page 64 by C.C. Hill
Clerk
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WAR DEPARTMENT.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM.
I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States
of the 7th June, 1832, John Knapp
of the State of New York
who was a private in the Revolutionary Army
is entitled to receive forty One dollars and
Sixty-Six cents per annum during his natural life, 
commencing on the 4th of March,
1831, and payable semi- annually on the 4th March, and 4th of September, in
every year.

Given at the War Office of the United States,
this-9 day of October
one thousand eight
hundred and thirty three
Lew Cass
Secretary of War

Examined and
Countersigned.
J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions.
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1934 - Apr 13. Hist to Hon L. J.
Dickinson, EEL

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13665
Rev War INVALID.
File No. 13, 665
John Knapp
Pri Rev War
Act: June 7th 32
Index: -- Vol. 1 Page 210
[Arrangement of 1870.}

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Born in Stanford 1776 & after 1832
lived in Putnam Co.
1775 served under Col Waterbury in 
1776 in artillery
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United States Senate
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

CARTER GLASS, VA., CHAIRMAN
KENNETH MCKELLAR, TENN. FREDERICK HALE, MAINE
ROYAL S. COPELAND, N.Y. HENRY W. KEYES, N.H.
CARL HAYDEN, ARIZ. GERALD P. NYE. N. DAK.
ELMER THOMAS , OKLA. FREDERICK STEINER OREG.
JAMES BYRNES, S. C. PETER NORBECK, S. DAK.
MILLARD E. TYDINGS, MD. L. J. DICKINSON, IOWA
RICHARD B. RUSSELL, JR. GA. JOHN A. TOWNSEND JR. DEL.
MARCUS A. COOLIDGE, MASS. ROBERT D. CAREY, WYO.
ALVA B. ADAMS, COLO. ROSCOE C. PATTERSON, MO.
PATRICK MCCARRAN, NEV.
JOHN OVERTON, LA.
JOHN H. BANKHEAD, ALA.
JOSEPH C. O'MAHONEY, WYO.
KENNEDY F. REA, CLERK
JOHN W. R. SMITH, ASST, CLERK

April 9, 1934
Commissioner, Pension Bureau
Veterans Administration
Washington, D. C.
Sir:
Will you please submit the information contained
in the enclosures. Am sorry to trouble you with
this request, but the writer is insistent and this is
not his first request. Kindly return the enclosures
when they have served your purpose.
Thanking you for this favor, I am
Yours very truly,
L. J. Dickinson [signsture]
L. J. Dickinson
HOD:N
Enclosures