Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 2,408, John Byrne, Penn.
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SERVICE    Penn.
Byrne, John
SERVICE   S. 2408
Carded
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Date of death on as or not A. B. [agency book] or 1835 Test.
Ohio. 7824
John Byrne 
of Miami Co in the State of Ohio who was a Private in the Comp commanded by Captain Brooks of the Regt commanded by Col. Heister in the Penn’a line for 1 year & three months 
Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio. at the rate of 50 Dollars 00. Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. 
Certificate of Pension issued the 9th day of April, 1833 and sent to Crane & Schenck Dayton, Ohio. 
Arrears to the 4th of Mar. 1833 100- 
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4, Sept 1833  25- 
$125,00 
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832}
Recorded by Wm. R. Palmer  Clerk
Book E Vol. 8. Page 2
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Declaration of John Burns for a pension
17165
V
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The State of Ohio, 
Miami County Court of Common Pleas of the term of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & thirty two 
On this twenty fifth day of September 1832 personally appeared before the President & associate Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of Miami County in the State of Ohio, John Burns a resident of Elizabeth township Miami County, Ohio aged Seventy nine years on the twenty seventh day of May last, who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 
That in the spring of he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers & served as herein stated.   In the spring of 1776 he entered as a volunteer in the company commanded by Capt. John Brooks in the 4th Pensylvania regiment commanded as he thinks by Col Heister he entered at Pottsgrove, in Hanover township, then Philadelphia County Pennsylvania, for three months and served the whole of his term. The company was employed during that time in guarding the public stores at Pottsgrove He again entered as a volunteer in the company commanded by Capt. Henry Turringer, he is not certain whether that company
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belonged to the 4th 5th Penn’a Regt the he volunteered in said company in the neighbourhood of Pottsgrove, & the company was employed in guarding the prisoners of Burgoyne's Army & escorting those prisoners from the Delaware river between Philadelphia & Bristol to the North river, where a detachment of New England troops took charge of the prisoners. On this second tour he was engaged three months. He volunteered again at Pottsgrove in the year and served a tour of three months in the company commanded by Capt John Brooks of the 4th Penn’a Regt the company was stationed at on the Delaware opposite Burlington, which place was then in the occupation of the enemy.   He afterwards volunteered in the company commanded by Capt Alexander McClintock in a Maryland regiment commanded by Col Hollingsworth. He entered this company at the head of Elk in Maryland in the year 1777 he was at the battle of Brandywine in a skirmish at the head of Elk.   Col Hollingsworth was wounded in the neck, deponent was in the battle of Brandywine in which his Capt. McClintock & his Ensign Matthew Langwell were killed, and deponent received a bayonet wound in the left side.   He served three months on this last mentioned tour of duty. He again
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volunteered at Wissahickon in Philadelphia County in Pens in Capt. John Missamore’s company in a Pensylvania Regiment, the number of which he cannot recollect, commanded as he thinks by Col Philip Hawn. He was in the battle of Germantown Served the term of three months in said last mentioned company. Deponent further states that he received regular discharges for those different tours of duty, which were destroyed four years ago, in consequence of his house having accidentally taken fire having been entirely consumed with all the property therein. Deponent is a native of Pensylvania, born in Philadelphia County, for fifteen years past he has lived in Miami County Ohio. In consequence of the loss of his discharge he has no documentary evidence, & he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service the whole period of his service as before set forth was fifteen months. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State 
John Byrne
Sworn to Subscribed the day & year aforesaid
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We Samuel Kyle - a Clergyman residing in Elizabeth township Miami Co Ohio and John M. Dye residing in the same County  - hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Burns who has subscribed sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be Seventy nine years of age, that he is reputed & believed in the neighbourhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolutionary War that we concur in that opinion 
Saml Kyle
John M. Dye
Sworn & subscribed the day year afs’d in open court 25th Sept 1832 
John G. Telford Clerk 
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, & after pulling the interrogatories prescribed by the War department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary Soldier and served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Samuel Kyle who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman resident in Miami County aforesaid and that John M. Dye who has signed the same also, is a resident in the same County is credible person & that their statement is entitled to credit 
I John G Telford Clerk of the Court
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of Common Pleas of Miami County, Ohio, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Burns for a pension 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of the said Court this twenty fifth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two   
John G. Telford Clerk Miami Common Pleas
Henry Turringer, he is not certain whether that company
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17165   No. 7824
John Byrne
Miami Co
Ohio
Admitted for 1 year and 3 Months from 1776
$50
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BRIEF in the case of John Burns County of Miami in the State of Ohio 
(Act 7th June, 1832.) 
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court 
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? 
3. How old is he? 79 
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
Period.  Spring In 1776 vol.   Duration of Service.  3 Months   Rank.  As a Private  Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Captn Brooks  colonel Heister
Period.  Vol.   Duration of Service.  3 months   Rank.  Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Captn Terringer
Period.  Vol.  Duration of Service.  3 months  Rank.  Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Captn McClintock  
Period.  Vol.   Duration of Service.  3 months  Rank.  Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Colonel Hollingsworth
Period.  Vol.   Duration of Service.  3 months   Rank.  Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Col. Hawn
5. In what battles was he engaged? Brandywine - skirmish &c wounded 
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Potts Grove Pensylvania 
7.  Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary evidence 
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? not authenticated.  
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above John N Ashton Examining Clerk. 
regularly discharged
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December 22, 1937 
BA-J/EEL OWN   
John Byrne-S.2408
B. L. Walden 
Box 234, 
Athens Ohio 
Dear Sir: Ohio.
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the pension record of John Byrne, who served as private in the Pennsylvania troops, Revolutionary War and lived in Miami County, Ohio. 
The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary War pension claim, S.2408, based upon the military service in that war of John Byrne. 
John Byrne was born May 27, 1753, in Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. The names of his parents are not shown. 
While residing at Potts Grove, Hanover Township, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, John Byrne volunteered in 1776, and served at various times until sometime in 1777, and three months subsequent to that year, amounting in all to about fifteen months as a private under Captains John Brooks, Henry Terringer, Alexander McClintock, John Missemore and Colonels Heister, Hollingsworth, and Philip Hawn in the Pennsylvania troops. He was in the battles Brandywine and Germantown and in a skirmish at “the head of Elk.” 
Could not locate soldier in Pa Archives & could not identify Capts Brooks & Alexander McClintock & Col. Heister
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 25, 1832, while residing in Elizabeth Township, Miami County, Ohio where he had lived fifteen years. 
There are no data as to soldier's family,   
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death the Revolutionary War pensioner, John Byrne (S.2408), you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:
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John Byrne, Certificate No. 7824, issued April 9, 1833. rate, $80.00 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency. 
Very truly yours A. D. HILLER 
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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Rev War  2408  
INVALID. 
John Byrne 
Pri. Pa Line 
Act: June 7 ‘32 
Index: -- Vol. A, Page 55, 
[Arrangement of 1870.] 
1928 Sept. 8  W.W. Neifert advised rel to date of last payment etc.  MMHF
1937. Dec 22 - Hist to B L Walden EJ
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Application of John Byrne for a pension}
FREE
DAYTON OH OC 27
O. 
17165
Hon Lewis Cass
Secretary at War
Washington City
November 1 1832
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The application of John Byrne for a pension,
under the Act of Congress of June 7, 1832, is herewith forwarded to the War Department
The result of the application may be communicated to
Crane & Schenck
Dayton
Ohio
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Burns which require further proof or explanation. 
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes 
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes   
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? 
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes V. * he is entitled? yes 
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?   Yes   
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? 
VII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes +IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes from any other seal? yes 
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? 
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtain it?   
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? 
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? 
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? 
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 
EXPLANATORY NOTES. 
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For year - months and -- days, I served as a . Forand days, I served as a -; and for such service I claim a pension. months
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite , and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable . It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the net or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit. 
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service. 
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office. QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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ATHENS OHIO DEC 7 5 PM 1937
THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS
Veteran's Administration
Old Records Div
Washington D. C.
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Please send me all family data and service record for John Byrne - Private in the Pa. State troops in
Revolutionary War Placed on pension roll (Ohio)
Apr. 9, 1833. Lived Miami Co. O. 
Thanking you
B. L. Walden
Box 234,
Athens, Ohio
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OHIO SOCIETY SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION 
Richard Montgomery Chapter 
BOARD OF MANAGERS 
PRESIDENT -- WILLIAM W. NEIFERT 
FIRST VICE-PRESIDENT MAXWELL G. DICE 
SECOND VICE-PRESIDENT REUBEN R. HOLMES 
SECRETARY TREASURER LESTER L. CECIL 
GORDON S. BATTELLE 
BOARD OF MANAGERS 
REGISTRAR -- IRA H. VOGT 
GENEALOGIST WILLIAM W. NEIFERT 
HISTORIAN- WILLIAM M. PETTIT 
CHAPLAIN REV. ALLEN K. ZARTMAN 
MILES S. KUHNS  
Office of the Secretary 
CITY BUILDING DAYTON, OHIO
810 Dayton Savings & Trust Building, 
August 27, 1928.
The Accounting Office, 
Pension Bureau, 
Washington, D. C. 
Gentlemen: 
This Chapter is trying to compile some permanent records of the Revolutionary soldiers buried in this Montgomery, and adjoining counties; hence this letter. 
Quite a few of them were pensioners and these records we have completed at the Revolutionary & 1812 Departments, on our various visits to Washington. In many cases we lack the dates of death of these patriots, because the families have removed from this section and so far as we know have gone out of existence. Inclosed is a list of 15 such cases, and we will be glad to have you give us the date of death, or in case this is not available the date of last payment, or perhaps the name to whom final payment was made after death, in the case of a settlement of estates. I realize that this is a large request, but I will be glad to assume the expense of the clerical hire in the matter. Anticipating favorable action. 
Very truly yours,
Wm. W. Neifert
 Wm. W. Neifert, 
Richard Montgomery Chapter, S. A. R.
1 Encl.
U.S. PENSION OFFICE S AUG 29 1928
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OHIO SOCIETY SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION 
Richard Montgomery Chapter 
BOARD OF MANAGERS 
PRESIDENT -- WILLIAM W. NEIFERT 
FIRST VICE-PRESIDENT MAXWELL G. DICE 
SECOND VICE-PRESIDENT REUBEN R. HOLMES 
SECRETARY TREASURER LESTER L. CECIL 
GORDON S. BATTELLE 
BOARD OF MANAGERS 
REGISTRAR -- IRA H. VOGT 
GENEALOGIST WILLIAM W. NEIFERT 
HISTORIAN- WILLIAM M. PETTIT 
CHAPLAIN REV. ALLEN K. ZARTMAN 
MILES S. KUHNS  
Office of the Secretary 
CITY BUILDING DAYTON, OHIO
John Byrne, No. S. 2408, of Penna
Anthony Chevalier, No. 42646, Virginia.
 John Cunias, No. 43441, Penna. 
Thomas Edwards, No. S.3327, Penna. 
Isaac Julian, No. S.46054, Penna. 
Alexander Jackson, No. S. 4435, Penna. 
David Lloyd, No. S. 4590, Penna. 
William Manlove, No. S. 41813, Delaware. 
William Mitchell, Penna. S. 2835 
Peter Roaff (Rhuff) No. S. 40352, Maryland. 
Robert Strain, No. S. 32989, Penna, died June 3 1836
Jacob Stump, No. S. 41193, Virginia. 
Isaac Taylor, New Jersey S. 7678 
Aaron Tullis, born New Jersey, but served in Virginia, S. 3838 
Samuel Wiley, born Maryland, served in Penna. S. 3556
U. S. PENSION OFFICE 2 AUG 29 1928
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MMHF
Rev.&1812 Wars Section. 
September 13, 1928.
William W. Neifert, 
810 Dayton Savings & Trust Building,
Dayton, Ohio. 
Sir: 
I advise you that the Revolutionary War pensioner of Ohio, Robert Strain, (S.3989) Pennsylvania Troops died June 26, 1836. 
In order to obtain the dates of last payment of pension of the following Revolutionary War soldiers, the names of persons paid and possibly the dates of death of the soldiers, you should apply to the Records Division, General Accounting Office, this city, citing all of the following data: 
“John Byrne, Certificate Number 7824, issued April 9, 1833, rate $50.00 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency." 
Anthony Chevalier, Certificate Number 10188, issued May 1, 1819, rate $8.00 per month, commenced August 29, 1818, Act of March 18, 1818, Ohio Agency." 
“John Cunnias or Cunias, Certificate Number 19075. issued September 22, 1823, rate $8.00 per month, commenced September 2, 1823, Act of March 18, 1818, Pennsylvania Agency, transferred to Ohio Agency.”
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“Thomas Edwards, Certificate Number 7793, issued April 5, 1833, rate $30.00 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.” 
“Alexander Jackson, Certificate Number 7792, issued April 5, 1833, rate $33.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.
“Isaac Julien or Julin, Certificate Number 7791, issued April 5, 1833, rate $23.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.”
“David Lloyd, Certificate Number 7822, issued April 9, 1833, rate $93.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency."
"William Manlove, Certificate Number 11794, issued June 12, 1819, rate $8.00 per month, commenced August 22, 1818, Act of March 18, 1818, Ohio Agency.
“William Mitchell, Certificate Number 13272, issued June 11, 1833, rate $24.00 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency. 
“Peter Roaff or Rhuff, Certificate Number 18807, issued November 4, 1832, rate $8.00 per month, commenced July 25, 1821, Act of March 18, 1818, Ohio Agency.”   
“Jacob Stump, Certificate Number 14644, issued September 23, 1819, rate $8.00 per month, commenced May 1, 1818, Act of March 18, 1818, Ohio Agency.” 
“Isaac Taylor, Certificate Number 26453, issued July 8, 1834, rate $46.66 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of
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COPIED BY ADY 
June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.” 
“Aaron Tullis, Certificate Number 22319, issued October 12, 1833, rate $40.00 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.”
“Samuel Wiley, Certificate Number 13305, issued June 22, 1833, rate $23.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, Ohio Agency.”
Respectfully, 
WINFIELD SCOTT, 
Commissioner.