Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 2590, John Hall, S.C.
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SERVICE                                           NUMBER
S. C.      Hall, John                        S 2590

Born in Ireland                                      carded
(3 - 1776 )

CONTENTS
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1195
Ohio
John Hall
of Butler in the State of Ohio
who was a private in the Compy commanded
by Captain George of the Regt commanded
by Col. Baird in the So. Carolina
line for 2 years from 1776
Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio.
at the rate of 80
Dollars - Cents per ann:
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 29 day of October 1832 and (illegible) to John Reily. Hamilton, Ohio
Arrears to 4th of (illegible) 1832   120
Semi=anl. allowance ending 4    40
March 1833      $160.
 

Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832. 
Recorded by Nathan Rice Clerk,
Book D Vol. 10 Page 55
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2342
John Hall
a Revolutionary soldier
P.P.
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The State of Ohio Butler County
Court of Common Pleas of
July Term A.D. 1832
On this thirtieth day of July in the year of
our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared before the Honorable the Judges of the Court of Common pleas in and for the County of Butler in the State of Ohio John Hall a resident of the County of Butler aforesaid aged seventy four years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed July seventh eighteen hundred and thirty two, that about the beginning of (illegible) in the year seventeen hundred and seventy six he volunteered
in Captain George's company at Hammond's old store on Bush river in South Carolina to serve against the Cherokee Indians who were at that time committing depredations on the frontiers of that state deponent was marched from Hammond's store to Lindley's Fort
where the company had an engagement with three hundred cherokees and sixty tories, after remaining at Lindley's Fort about two weeks deponent was stationed at Fort Ellison under the command of Lieutenant Morgan the Regiment to which the company
belonged was commanded by Colonel Jonas Baird deponent remained at Fort Ellison three weeks when he returned home about the close of the year seventeen hundred and seventy-six deponent was drafted to serve for one month in Captain Waddleton's company against
the indians near the old boundary line between the indians and whites on the waters of the Saluda, at the expiration of the month deponent was discharged. In the spring of seventeen hundred and 
seventy-seven deponent took
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[illegible] father's waggon and two horses which had been pressed for the service under the command of General Andrew Williamson and hauled flour for the army, he received a load at Dutch fork between Broad River and Saluda, he drove his waggon first to Augusta in Georgia, thence through Midway Settlement to Altamahaw thence to Santillas thence to St Mary's river where deponent received
a written discharge signed by the waggon Master General whose name was Calhoun for one hundred days service. He was not this discharge in his possession it being lost or was given up when he [illegible] service About the first of October seventeen hundred and eighty deponent volunteered in Captain Lindsey's
company, three days after he volunteered he was in the battle on Tyger River in South Carolina where General Sumpter was wounded he knew Colonels Baird, Lyle, Wade Hampton and William Washington after the battle on Tyger river deponent went into North Carolina
he was then sent by General Sumpter to carry an express to Colonel Marshall who was lying in the Warsaw Country, after General Sumpter recovered from his wound deponent marched under him to Fort Granby where he continued until the advance of the British from Camden caused Sumpter to retreat at Jacks creek he was in an engagement with the British, they
repulsed the Americans who were commanded chiefly by Sumpter and Colonel Hampton deponent continued in the service in South Carolina until the close of the summer seventeen hundred hundred and eight
two: he served his four last months under Captain Williams Captain Lindsey having been appointed Colonel Deponent received no written discharge when he left the service - at the time Lord Cornwallis crossed Catawba
on his way to York where he surrendered deponent was with the North Carolina troops at Tucky Seige deponent has a written record of his age taken from the original record kept by his father, he was born in Ireland September seventeen hundred and fifty eight - he has
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lived in Butler County Ohio twenty six years he can prove his reputation as a soldier by William Caldwell, who knew deponent during the war and by David Madill a Clergyman & James Brown who can testify that deponent sustains a good character for truth and veracity that he is reputed and believed in his neighborhood to
have been a soldier of the revolution. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state
John Hall
Sworn & subscribed in open court the day & year aforesaid
John Reily Clerk

I William Caldwell a resident of the County of Butler in the State of Ohio do hereby certify that I was well acquainted with John Hall who has sworn to and subscribed the above declaration before and during the war of the revolution that with him part I served part of my time that I have been well acquainted
with him since the revolution and know
that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution 
 Wm Caldwell
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
John Reily Clerk
 
We David Madill Clergyman and James Brown
residing in the County of Butler in the State of Ohio do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Hall who has sworn to and subscribed the above declaration that we believe him to be seventy four years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have
been a soldier of the revolution and that we
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lived in Butler County Ohio twenty six years he can prove his reputation as a soldier by William Caldwell, who knew deponent during the war and by David Madill a Clergyman & James Brown who can testify that deponent sustains a good character for truth and veracity that he is reputed and believed in his neighborhood to
have been a soldier of the revolution. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state
John Hall
Sworn & subscribed in open court the day & year aforesaid
John Reily Clerk

I William Caldwell a resident of the County of Butler in the State of Ohio do hereby certify that I was well acquainted with John Hall who has sworn to and subscribed the above declaration before and during the war of the revolution that with him part I served part of my time that I have been well acquainted
with him since the revolution and know
that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution 
 Wm Caldwell
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
John Reily Clerk
 
We David Madill Clergyman and James Brown
residing in the County of Butler in the State of Ohio do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Hall who has sworn to and subscribed the above declaration that we believe him to be seventy four years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have
been a soldier of the revolution and that we
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John Hall
Ohio
N 234
from 1776 private
2 years
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$80
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BRIEF in the case of John Hall
of Butler County in the state of Ohio
(Act 7 June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?
Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? blank
3. How old is he? 74 years
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Headings: Period. Duration of Service: Years, Months, Days. Rank, As a. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.
- Volunteered June In 1776. ", 1, 7. Private. General Sumter, Capt Georges Company.
- drafted [illegible] of 1776. ", 1, ". Private. Capt Wadderstons Compy. 
- Spring 1777. ", 3, 10. Waggoner. Waggon Master Calhoun.
-1 Oct to 1780, 1 Oct to 1782. 2, ", ". Private, Capt [Illegible], Col [Illegible] , Col Baird, Cols Lyle, Wade, and William Washington South Carolina.
 
5. In what battles was he engaged? Lindsey fort with Cherokee Indians Tygee River &
Jacks Creek
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6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? on Bush River South Carolina

7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence,
by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? One Living witness in part, and Traditionary-

8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case
above mentioned.
C Settle Examining Clerk
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                           September 29, 1934.

Mr. Robert Shumway                  BA-J/ILL
513 Whitman Street                    John Hall
Rockford, Illinois.                         S. 2590

Dear Sir:

     Reference is made to your letters of August 17 and September 16, in which you request the Revolutionary War records of John Hall, who was born in 1758, served in the South Carolina troops and later lived in Ohio, also, the record of Thomas Herron who was born in 1755, in Scotland, and died in Ohio.

     There is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon the service of Thomas Herron as described above.  All spellings of the surname have been searched.  The record of John Hall is give (given) herein as found in pension claim, S. 2590, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.

     John Hall was born in September 1758, in Ireland; the names of his parents are not shown.

     He enlisted sometime in June 1776, at Hammond's Old Store on Bush River, in South Carolina, and served five weeks as private in Captain George's company, Colonel Jones Baird's South Carolina regiment.  At the close of 1776, he enlisted and served one month in Captain Waddleton's company.  In the spring of 1777, he enlisted and served as a wagoner under wagonmaster, General Calhoun, length of service one hundred days; during this time he drove his father's team which had been pressed into service. He enlisted October 1, 1780. served as private in Captains Lindley's and Williams' companies, was in the battles of Lindleyu's Fort, Tyger River and Jacks Creek, and continued until the close of the summer of 1788.

He was allowed p;ension on his application excecuted July 30, 1832, at which time he resided in Butler County, Ohio; he had resided in that county about twenty-six years.

     There are no data relative to the soldier's family.

                            Very truly yours,

                          A. D. HILLER
                          Assistant to Administrator.
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of JOHN HALL which require further proof or explanation.

I.  Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?  Yes

II. Did the declarant make the delcaration in the county where he resides?  Yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?  Yes

V.  Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?  Yes

VI.  Has he given the names of officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?  Yes

VII.  Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?  Yes

VIII.  Has the Court given their opinion?  Yes

IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate?  Yes

X.  Is the Clerk's seal affixed?  And if so, has it a devise or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?  Yes
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XI.  Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?  Yes

XII.  If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?

XIII.  If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had.
One surving witness

XIV.  If the appllicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility?  Yes

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?  Yes

XVI.  Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?  Yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily?  And, if not, which of them is not so answered?  Yes

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                     EXPLANATORY NOTES.

Quere V.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &C. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades::  For ____ year_________
months, and ___________days, I served as a ________ For ________months and ___________days, I served as a ________; and for such service I claim a pension."
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     It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.

Quere XIV.  Proof of Service.
     In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the affidavits must be properly authenticated, as above directed.

Quere XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
     In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
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Last part of hist. of James Hall written to 
Hon. Will R. Wood.
House of Rep
Whole carbon copy on that claim

and served two months in Captain George Avery's Company, was in battle of Eutaw Springs where he was wounded in the right wrist destroying the joint.
He was allowed pension on his application executed May 18, 1824 while a resident of Harlan County, Kentucky. He died July 27, 1837 in said Harlan County.
Soldier married in 1798 or 1799 in Buncombe County North Carolina Elizabeth Sousby or Susby who was allowed pension on her application executed May 14, 1857 while a
resident of Benton County, Arkansas aged seventy-eight years. Their childen named in claim are as follows:
Hannah, born February of 1800
Anthony." March 29, 1803, living in Benton Co
Arkansas in 1858.
Elizabeth. Date of birth not stated.
Allen. About fifteen years of age in 1824.
Dorothy or Dorath twelve "  "  "  "  "  "   "
Sarah. ten                          "  "  "  "  "  "  '' "
Esther .  nine                     "  "  "  "  "  "  '' "            
Mary. seven                       "  "  "  "  "  "  '' "
Martha five                        "  "  "  "  "  "  '' "
Sampson, born December 1821, not living in 1825.
From the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 3590 of John Hall it appears that he was born
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in September 1758 in Ireland.
He enlisted in June 1776 at Hammond's Old Store on Bush River in South Carolina and served as a Private five weeks in Captain George's company, Colonel Jonas Baird's
Regiment, South Carolina Troops. At the close of 1776 he enlisted and served one month in Captain Waddleton's Company. . In the spring of 1777 he enlisted and served as a Wagoner one hundred days under General Calhoun
driving his father's team which had been pressed into service, name of his father not stated. On October 1, 1780 he enlisted and served as a private until close of summer
1782 in Captain Lindsey and Williams' Companies. He was in the battles of Lindley Fort, Tyger River and Jack Creek.
He was allowed pension on his application executed
July 30, 1832 while a resident of Butler County, Ohio where he had resided about twenty-six years. There is no family data on file,

Date of death not on     A.B.
 
Yours very truly,

Acting Commissioner.
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In reply
to your request of................... received.........................
---for a statement of the military history of John Hall a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or her) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
S. 2590

DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
June 1776    
LENGTH  5 wks.  
RANK      Private  
OFFICER UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED
Captain George   Col. Jonas Baird
STATE   SC

DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
close of 1776    
LENGTH 1 mo. 
RANK      Private  
OFFICER UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED
Captain Waddleton    Col. Jonas Baird
STATE   SC


DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
Spring of 1777    
LENGTH 100 days. 
RANK      Wagoner 
OFFICER UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED
Captain Waddleton    Mess Master Calhoun
STATE   SC


DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
Oct 1, 1780    
LENGTH Summer 1782
RANK      Private
OFFICER UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED
Captain Lindsey & Williams       Mess Master Calhoun  


Battles engaged in, Lindley's Fort, Tyger River, Jacks Creek

Residence of soldier at enlistment, Volunteered 
Hammond's old Store on Bush River in SC

Date of application for pension, July 30, 1832. His claim was allowed.

Residence at date of application, Butler Co, Ohio for 26 yrs.

Age at date of application, born in Sept. 1758 in Ireland.
Remarks: Drove his father them & two horses which had been pressed into service. name of Father not stated-- no family data
5 -- 2850
Respectfully,

Commissioner.
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ROCKFORD SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL AND VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
ROCKFORD, ILLINOIS
R. B. SHUMWAY, DEPARTMENT HEAD

October 4, 1934

Bureau of Pensions
Dept. of Interior
Washington, D.C.

Gentlemen:

Some time ago I wrote your bureau inquiring as to the
war record of John Hall. Since that time, I have received
information furnishing further details as to where such
records may be found and would appreciate very much if your
bureau will make check and furnish me with findings should
this data prove correct: pg. -- 4 Military records I. S. C. --
S. File 2788 Revolutionary War record section, Bureau of
Pensions.

This pension was applied for July 30, 1832 from Hamilton Butler
County, Ohio by John Hall. I would appreciate a copy
of any record you may find of the service, residence or
relatives of this soldier.

Hoping this data may enable you to locate record,
I remain

Yours respectfully,
[signature]
Robert Shumway
Head of Industrial and
Vocational Departments

RBS C

answered
sept 29-1934

[transcribers note: stamped seal reads "received oct 6 1934 [illegible]"]
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ROCKFORD SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL AND VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
ROCKFORD, ILLINOIS
R. B. SHUMWAY, DEPARTMENT HEAD
Sept. 16 - 1934,
Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions.
Washington D.C.
Subject Pension record of John Hall
Dear Sir
I am writing your Bureau information to be used in
D.A.R. application.
Will you please furnish me with copy of pension record
and any other material for may have of the Revolutionary war
record of John Hall who supposedly served as a private in the 1st 5th regiment
of South Carolina and at the time of his death 1836 was receiving a
 pension mailed him at Hamilton Ohio (This was mentioned in his will
as receiving pension) The mailing address may help to determine when
he served and his home address.

any suggestions as to other sources of tracing this record will be appreciated
Thanking you in advance I remain
Yours respectfully
Robert Shumway
Rockford Senior High school
Rockford ill.
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ROCKFORD SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL AND VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
ROCKFORD, ILLINOIS
R. B. SHUMWAY, DEPARTMENT HEAD

613 Whitman St.
Rockford ill.
Aug. 17 - 34.

[transcription note: stamp on page reads "received Aug 20 1934 [illegible]"]

Veterans Administration
Department of Interior
Dear Sir
to [complete] records for D.A.R. membership, i am making
inquiry into pension records of.
John Hall enlistment South Carolina 1st or 5th regiment
[illegible]
Thomas Herron Enlistment point not known.
John Hall born 1758 served with South Carolina During Revolutionary War
late moved to Hamilton Township Butler County Ohio and at the time of his death was drawing a pension mailed him at Hamilton Ohio.
Thomas Herron son of lord John Herron born in Scotland 1755 and 
supposed to been said to fight with the British until his [illegible] colonial army moved to and died in Butler County Hamilton Ohio.
should your bureau have records of either of above mentioned soldiers will you 
mail me certified copies of any war records you may have on file 
and any changes for same will be formally submitted
yours respectfully
Robert Shumay
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Resident Nurse
Peru State Normal Sch00l
Peru, Nebraska
See other address on jacket July 15-18
(Return to) Pawnee City, Nebr.

School Infirmary
Katherine H. Foste, R.N.
Resident Nurse

July 15, 1918
Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D.C. 
Revolutionary War Records Section


Please pardon my writing at such
a busy time with Gov. affairs. It is in regard
to some dates for Revolutionary recordsI'm ┃
trying to unravel them and get them straight┃
in the interest of the daughters of the Revolution. They may not have been pensioned. That I cannot say but any information regarding them will be duly appreciated.

Matthew Hall born Sept 15, 1735 - (In Ireland
I think, County Down.) Came to this country
when 12 years old, where they settled at first 
I don't know. One son's name was John Hall
b. Sept 12, 1758. They lived in or near Abbeyville district SC or we been told they did, whether the son was born there I can't say

Also John Foster who married the widow
Leslie from Abbeyville S.C. One son's name John Pressly Foster was born May 28, 1811. If you have any record regarding this as to date of birth, date of marriage and death, or the place, I shall appreciate it. Or the Father of John Foster was Capt. John Foster SC. the said one?
Thanking you, most truly Katherine Foster ┃
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1918 July 25. Hist. to Katherine Foster 
1923 Apr 6. - Hist to Hon. Will P. Wood, 
MMHS (Inquiryies cl. 
W. 25741 of James Hall
1934 -Sept. 29  Hist. to Robert Shumway



Rev War
File No.  2590
INVALID.
2590.
John Hall
Privt Rev War
Act: June 7 1832
Index: -- Vol. A, Page 157
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