Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 18051, for John James, South Carolina
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(3 - 1776)
SERVICE
S. C.
CONTENTS
James, John
NUMBER
S. 18051
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Born in S. C.
carded
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'-
Let to Hon J P Richardson
April 18, 1837
Order to pay 27 April 1838.
South Carolina
John James of Sumpter in the State of S.C.
who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Singleton of the Rgt commanded by Col Fulwood in the S. C.
line for
Cert #30928
Inscribed on the Roll of South Carolina
at the rate of 20 Dollars 00 Cents per annum
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 29 day of July 1836 and --
P Richardson --
Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1836 $110.00
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Mar 1837 10.00
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$120.00

Recorded by D L Addison

Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832

Book
Vol. 6
Page 70
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State of South Carolina
Sumter District
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in and for the District & State aforesaid - John James
the district and State aforesaid who after being duly Sworn according to law in addition to the facts already furnished the war department & hereunto appended-- deposeth and says that he is now in his seventy fifth year, that since
the year 1830 he has been very much afflicted, so as to confine him almost entirely to his house are a great part of the time to his bed that, in consequence of his great infirmity
his memory has become much impaired he therefore cannot with precision swear to the length of the periods of his services during the revolutionary war - but according to his best recollection he served as follows. About the last of November or the first of December 1776 he volunteered as a private in a company of Militia under the command of Capt John Singleton, the company was ordered to march with others to Purysburg on the Savannah River under the command of Genl Richard Richardson whose son Richard Richardson Junior was the Col and Fulwood (whose given is not recollected) was the Major that on their way to Perrysburg they struck a Camp near Monks Corner in the State aforesaid called Mossy
Camp where they remained one month & then moved on towards Perrysburg-- that when within a few miles of that place say eight or ten the order was countermanded when they were marched home & discharged having been
absent from home at least two months
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that in the summer of 1777 he received an Ensigns Commission in a 
company of Militia commanded by Capt John Singleton, 
the said commission was handed to him by Lieut
Col Nathaniel Moore, but as well as his memory serves him
he thinks it was signed by Col Richard Richardson,
that he soon after marched to the ten mile spring near
Charleston S.C. under the command of the said Lot
N. Moore, he thinks Fulwood was the major, that he
was ordered out for a three months tour and served out
the full time as an Ensign in the said John Singleton company 
when the troops were discharged and he returned
home- that in July 1778 he in company with Capt
John Singleton and several other officers, none over the
grade of capt amounting in the whole to about two
five or thirty volunteered to go to the State of Georgia
with the intention of placing themselves under the command 
of Colonels White & Baker, that being unable to
find either Col White or Baker thy returned home
after an absence of three or four weeks-- that some
time in 1779 he was appointed a first Lieutenant in
company of Militia commanded by Capt Armstrong which
commission was signed by Col Richard Richardson the given 
name of Armstrong not recollected that he was then ordered 
out on a three months tour & marched to Williamson's camp 
as it was called on the Savannah River near where is now situated the
Town of Hamburg, Matthew Singleton commanded
as Colonel, Fulwood as Major, Williamson as General
that he recollects distinctly one circumstance which
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occurred at this camp, which was the arrest of Col
Singleton by Genl Williamson - the former whom charged
the latter with carrying on an illicit intercourse
with the enemy- that he there served out his full tour
to wit three months as a 1st Lieut in the said Armstrong's Company - when he returned home-- that in the
latter part of the summer of 1780 immediately after the
defeat of Genl Gates at Camden South Carolina, he joined
Genl Francis Marion his brigade not being property organized he thinks as well as his memory serves him
that Marion had not then been commissioned as a
General, but then held the rank of Col. that he was
with Marion when he surprised a body of British near
Nelsons ferry on Santee River who were escorting about
two hundred American prisoners from Camden to Charleston, that they succeeded in rescuing the Americans &
taking about ninety or one hundred of the enemy, on this
occasion Marion had few that he had hastily collected
together & deponent thinks there was no other field
officer present. Deponent served as a Lt under Capt
John Singleton, that from that time he continued to serve
under Marion until Genl Green came to this State
when he ordered Col Lee of the continental to join
Marion, that they marched against Georgetown S.C.
and drove the British from that place that on this
occasion in addition to Lee & Marion, Fulwood
was a field officer - then they march against Fort
Watson or Scott Lake Salt River S.C.
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that on this occasion deponent served as a Lieut and
Capt William Dukes, his former Capt John Singleton having
returned home from Georgetown, deponent thinks that for
Richard Richardson & Lieut Col. John James both of
the militia were present at the taking of Fort Watson
In a short time after the fall of Fort Watson Marion
was jointly to Irvin & deponent was ordered in a detachment under said Irving against the -- 
Camden South Carolina - that he was still acting as a
Lieut under Capt William Dukes -
Sworn to before me
this 14th April 1830
John James
John N Carpenter
State of South Carolina
I John M. Dargard Clerk of the Court
of Sumter District certify that John N. Carpenter is a
Magistrate as above, and that the foregoing signature, purporting to be his, is genuine. In testimony whereof, I have herein
to affixed my seal of Office, and subscribed my name, this
27 day of May in the year one
thousand eight hundred and thirty six

M. Dargan, Clerk of the Court of Sumter District
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Rev. & 1812 Wars Section

July 27, 1925

Mrs. Rachel M. Dyar
Adairsville, Box 84
Georgia

Madam,

I have to advise you that from the papers in the
Revolutionary War pension claim S. 18051 it appears
that John James was born May 14, 1761 near the village
of Statesburgh, Sumter District, South Carolina.
While a resident of his native place he enlisted
the last of November or first of December 1776 and served
two months as private in Captain John Singleton's Company, Colonel Richard Richardson's South Carolina Regiment.
In the summer of 1777 he was commissioned Ensign and
served three months in Captain John Singleton's Company,
Colonel Nathaniel Moore's South Carolina Regiment.
He enlisted in July 1778 and served three or four
weeks in Captain John Singleton's Company.
In 1779 he was commissioned First Lieutenant and served
three months in Captain Armstrong's Company, Colonel
Mathew Singleton's South Carolina Regiment.
From the summer of 1780 until the latter part of 1782,
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he served as Lieutenant in Captains John Singleton
and William Dukes' Company, under General Francis
Marion and was in an engagement at Nelson's Ferry, retaking
of Georgetown, South Carolina and taking of Fort
Watson, South Carolina.
He was allowed pension on his application executed
November 13, 1833 while living in Clarendon County, Sumter
District, South Carolina where he had always lived
the exception of ten months in 1782 and 1783 during
which he lived in Virginia, the place not stated.
It is not stated whether he was ever married.
The above is the only soldier named John James
of South Carolina found on the Revolutionary War records
of this Bureau.

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.
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30.484
John James
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A H L Ruckney
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Declaration of
John James to obtain the
benefit of the act of Congress
passed 7th 1832
The State of South Carolina Sumter District

on the thirtieth day of November in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight Hundred
thirty three personally appeared in open Court before
The Honble Richard Sanpam of the associate Judge
of the Court of General Sessions and common pleas of the
State aforesaid, John James a resident of Clarendon
only in Sumter District in the date aforesaid and now
his seventy fourth year, who being first Sworn on the
holy evangelist of Almighty God makes the following
declaration to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed 7th June 1832, Deponent was born in the 
Village of Batesburg on the 14th of May 1761 and has resided here ever
since with the exception of about 10 months in
1782 & 1783 when he resided in Virginia, that about
the last of November of the first of December 1776
he volunteered as a private in a company of
militia under the command of Capt John Singleton
and marched to Perrysburgh on the Savannah river
under the command of Genl Richard Richardson
but was detained some time at the Massy Camp on
Marks corner before he marched to Purysburgh.
That he then returned home with his company having 
been absent two month. That in the summer of 1777
he received an Ensigns commission in a company of militia
having
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commanded by Capt John Singleton and was marched to the 10 Mile Spring near Charleston of Command Lieut Col Nathaniel Moore
that he remained at the White Springs about three months when he again returned home with his Company
that in July 1778, deponant with Col Jno Singleton & others went to the State of
Georgia to join Cols White & Baker but not being able to find them again returned home that
in 1779 he was appointed first Lieutenant in a company of militia commanded by Captain Armstrong and marched under command of Col Mathew Singleton to a town 
called Hamburgh on the Savannah River,there joined Genl Williamson, that he there three months when he returned home that after Genl Gates was defeated at Camden Deponant joined Genl Francis Marion as a first Lieutenant and continued to serve under Genl Marion until the latter part of 1782,that deponent was with Genl Marion when he attacked a body of British on Santee river who were escorting from Camden to Charleston about 20 or Prisoners whom they succeeded in rescuing and took the British Prisoners amounting to about
90 or 100, Deponent was with Genl Marion at the retaking of George Town When
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upon the approach of the Americans the British
evacuated the place - Deponent was also with Genl
Marion & Col Henry Lee at the taking of Fort Watson
and Scotts Lake a Deponent states that there
is but a minister of the Gospel living in
Clarendon County & that he resided about 18
miles from deponent & that he has no acquaintance
with him having only moved into the county about 
2 years ago.  Deponent also states that his name is not on the 
pension roll of the agency of any state whatsoever
and that he hereby relinquishes every claim to any annuity or Pension whatever except the present and Deponent further states that in the winter of 1781 his father's house was burnt by tories and that his ensigns commission was burnt that his commission as first Lt is either lost or mislaid.
Sworn to & subscribed the day
& year aforesaid in open Court of
before Richard South
Presiding Judge
State of South Caroline Lawrence
Sumter Dist
the Manning late a
Lieutenant Colonel in the Regiment U.S. Infantry
now 49 years old do an oath make the following
statement, that I have been acquainted with
Mr John James from my infancy that I have
always resided in the immediate neighborhood of Mr
James except while I was in the army during the
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last Word
That he was also acquainted with Capt
John Singleton Col Richard Richardson & that he
has heard them both frequently speak of Mr James
as a good whig during the revolutionary war & that they
had served together during the war - Col Manning
also states that he was intimately acquainted with
Mrs Marion the widow of Genl Francis Marion has
repeatedly heard him say that during the revolutionary war
Mr John James brought her letters & packages from
Genl Marion & from her to him & that John James
was much esteemed by Genl Marion on account of his
fidelity to the American cause - Col Manning
that from the conversations had with the persons
stated & many other & from the general opinions within the neighborhood of Mr James to is
of the opinion that Mr James did serve on the
side of the Americans during the Revolutionary
War and that he believes implicitly Mr James statements of 
his services as above set for the
Sworn to & subscribed the
13th day of November AD 1833
Lawrence Manning
in open Court before
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and the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the
Interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the within
named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served
as he states and the Court further certifies that
it appears to them that Col Laurence Manning who signed the annexed certificate is a resident of Sumter District in the State aforesaid and that he is a
respectable man
& that his certificate is entitled to
full faith and credits
Richard Gaul
James, Sott
.
I Thomas Wilder Clerk of the Court of
General Sessions & Common pleas for the Dist
do hereby certify that the foregoing Two Sheets of paper contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John James for pension under the act of Congress of June 7. 1832
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set
my hand and the seal of said Court this
18th day of November in the year of our
Lord one thousand Eight Hundred and
thirty three
Th. J.  Wilder
James John
SC S18051
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P
1805
INVALID.
File No. 18851

John James
Private Rev War

Act: June 7 32
Index: -- Vol. 1, Page 191
Arrangement of 1870.}
1910 Oct. 13 Hist to
Mrs. Wells Thompson &
1912 Oct. 11 Hist to
Miss Ultima Green Letter
in S.F. 32607 Jas William
Feb. Hist to Mrs. Lina
F. Boykin & L.M.
1925 July 27. Hist to Mrs. Rachel M Dyar
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The Agent in Charleston has received no order as yet from Washington to enrol John James
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$20 per annum
John James, act 32
S. Carolina
See letter to Hon. J.P.
Richardson  26  Dec. 1836
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Saul Manning
Fulton P.O. SoCa
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Dear Richard
Fulton P.O. S.C. 12 April
1830
Enclosed are all the papers
relative to Mr John James's business with the
pension office or department -
your letter enclosed
Mr Edwards note to you on the subject I received to day & presented it to Mr James who is now quite sick and has asked me to write for him-- Crosby had told him that the papers had been sent on, but I presume he made a mistake or otherwise they would have been received-- he left them in the situation you will find them, except an additional
affidavid before Carpenter -- perhaps it may be
required to certify to Carpenter being a duly qualifed Magistrate which you can say-- whether or not those representations in favour of Mr James, pretensions will be sufficient I know not-- but tis possible that a representation made by yourself might avail something - will write you soon & give an
account of your affairs at home.
Yours affectionately
Lau Manning
Honorable
Richard I Manning
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-nation as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension file in this Bureau. 
John James Sr.  File 18054
[missing] -s of [missing] -ent or
[missing] -ointment
LENGTH OF SERVICE.
RANK
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED
CAPTAIN
COLONEL
STATE
Nov or Dec 1776
2 mos 
Pvt.
Capt. John Singleton
Col Richard Richardson
S.C.



Summer 1777
3 mos
Ensign
Capt John Singleton
 Col Nathaniel Moore 

July 1778
 3 or 4 weeks
Capt John Singleton

1779
3 mos. 
1st. Lt 
Armstrong
Mathew Singleton

Summer 1780 - 1782
Lieut.
Capt. John Singleton
Col. Marion
Lieut
William Dukes


Battles engaged in, Ingagement of Nelsons Ferry, retaking of Georgetown and 
 [illegible] of Fort Watson
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Birthplace.
Date of application for pension, Nov 13, 1833 
His cl was at 
 Residence at date of application, Clarendon Co. SC
Age at date of application, near village of Statesburgh S.C. May 14 1761
Remarks  Soldier states that he lived 10 mos in Va in 1782 and 1783
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Commission of Pensions

Col. Laurence  Manning
Fulton P.O. SoCa
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Department of War
Pension Office
May 4, 1836
I have examined the amended declaration and
additional evidence submitted in the case of the claim of John James and herewith return the paper again to you.

Mr. James after having specified several short terms before the fall of Charleston that state that he entered the service under General Marion in the summer of 1780, and continued
in active service until 1782. As this statement conflicts materially with the general course of the militia service and require further proof to sustain it. It is highly probable that such proof may be found in the Office of
the Comptroller General at Columbia.
The official character and signature of Magistrates should always be certified the Clerk of the Court.
I am very Respectfully
Your Obd Svnt
J L. Edwards
Lawrence Manning, Esq
Fulton P.O.
SoCa
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Danl Garrett
[illegible]
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State of South Carolina
Sumter District
Personally appeared
before me Josiah
I Crosby a Justice of the peace for
the District & State aforesaid David
Garrot a pensioner under the pension Laws
of the United States & brother to Thomas
Garrat in whose affidavit as to the revolut
nary [illegible] of John James is hereunto
annexed.  The date of his pension certificate
is not stated as he has not exhibited it to
me but the fact will appear from [illegible] 
to the records of the war department who
after being duly sworn according to Law 
says that is acquainted with John James
of the District & State aforesaid, that he
is acquainted with the said John James
saw him during the Revolutionary War
 that he served as a private in Capt Armstrong
Company of Militia when the said James was
acting as a Lieutenant in a company of militia
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commanded by a Capt Furman he thinks
his given name was Josiah - that he was
with the said John James When Genl Marion laid and ambuscade for the British
near Parkers ferry on Edisto [river] in Plea
that said James then acted as a Lieutant
but does not recollect weather he was a
2nd Lieutenant on that occasion a Col 
Stafford & a Col Hardin had commands
that a good many of the enemy was killed
& taken prisoners - deponant further says that he was out frequently with said James during the Revolutionary war on the side of the Americans, but that he is now very infirm & his memory much impaired, he cannot therefore undertake to state with certainty what period the said James served but that from his knowledge of Mr James
character together with what he has heard
ever since the Revolutionary war of Mr.
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James Services he believe implicitly his  
dictation which has been read to him thinks
it entitled to full faith & credit
in before me David Garrot
this 21 Nov
1835
Jos. I. Crosby
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Jas. Boyd
Afft [Affidavit]
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State of South Carolina
Sumter District 
 Personally appeared  before me Dr. John Boyd
 a highly respectable physician of the District & State aforesaid who after being duly sworn according to Law, says that he has lived in the neighbourhood of Mr. John James for the last Forty Years and has been intimately acquainted with him during that period, & that from what
he has heard from the old inhabitants of the neighbourhood he has no hesitation in saying that the said James did serve on the side of the Americans during the revolutionary war & that he thinks his declaration as to his revolutionary 
[illegible] entitled to full faith & credit
Sworn to before me
this 23 Nov 1835
John Boyd
Jos. I. Crosby
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Dec 29
Jno  James

H. J P Richardson
AR
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House of Representatives
Decr 26th 1836
Sir - 
You will please forward to me Mr. John James certificate for a pension
for the term of service specified by you.
You will also confer a favor by informing me
the amount of [illegible] to which that certificate will entitle him.
Very respectfully yrs
John P. Richardson
I L Edwards Esq.
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Wm Bronson
affe
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State South Carolina ⎬ 
Sumter District  
Personally appeared Capt Joseph West who being duly sworn makes oath that he is acquainted with John James that in the year 1781 they both served as volunteers under General Marion in the United States
service, and this deponant has cause to
believe that John James was in the United States Service before the year 1781, also believes that John James had a commission as he wor  a sword, which was not common for any to wear except officers.
Sworn to before me this
8th June 1836
Joseph West   his Mark
L F Rhame IQ

State of South Carolina
I  John M Dargan Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for Sumter District
do hereby certify that L.T. Rhame is a magistrate as above and that the above signature, purporting to be his
is genuine. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto I fixed my seal of Office and subscribed my name,
this tenth day of June A.D. one thousand eight hundred and thirty six
J.M. Dargan
C. C .
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Washington 31st March 1830
Dear Brother

Enclosed you will receive a reply made
relative to Mr James's papers and claims.
I am at a loss to imagine what has happened
that no papers requisite in Mr James
as have been sent to the Dept a to myself
ask that the papers may be sent on to me directly and his matter shall be [illegible]  attended to. I urged Mr. James to put me in possession of papers before I left home. 
I am sorry to say that he did not-
Whatever he wishes me to do for him
had better be done promptly. What
can have been done with the papers?
I wrote a few days since to you. My  wife has for the last few days been quite unwell - 
She is something better today and is up -  a delegation have been very sickly and some of them quite ill -
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Congress will probably adjourn late in May or the first of June 
Do write us often and give all the News at
home - Tell all our friends howd[illegible]  for us
I Am Dear Brother 
Affectionally Ys
Richard J Manning

Col Lawrence Manning
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War Department
Pension Office
December 24 1836,
Sir,
I have again examined the papers
of Mr. John James of South Carolina and here
return them to you. In a letter I had
the honor - to address the Hon. H. L. Pinkney
on the 20th of June last, which letter still accompanies the papers of Mr James, I endeavor to point out the objection to the present admission of this claim, to which I would respectfully call your attention. It does not appear that any of the objections mentioned in that letter have been removed nor has any reply to it been received at this office.
I have the honor to be
very respectfully
your obt sevt
J.L. Edwards

Hon J. P. Richardson,
House of Representatives.
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Richard Richardson
affe
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State of South Carolina
Sumter District
Personally appeared before Jos. I Crosby
as a Justice of the peace in and for the
district & State aforesaid Richard Richardson Esqr a highly respectable gentleman in the District & State aforesaid who after being sworn says that he is now in his 68th year and on that he is the son of Col Richard Richardson  who commanded in the militia under Genl. Francis Marrion during the Revolutionary war  -that he has been personally acquainted with Mr. John James ever since he was a child - that they have always resided immediately in the same neighbourhood. - that during the Revolutionary War he saw the said James in the militia [illegible] at one time  acting as a private & at the other time as an
officers he thinks as an Ensign, that
he has frequently heard his father
Col Richard Richardson frequently
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say the said John James acted a
Lieutenant in the militia during the Revolutionary War & that he was a faithful & jealous Whig -
and that he [illegible] from the neighborhood  
report as well as conversate and had with the old inhabitants that Mr. James Statement may be relied on as correct.

Sworn before me R Richardson
this 21 Nov 1832
Jos. I Cosby
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Dear Sir
I have endeavoured to procure
some further information with regard to
you claims for revolutionary services
from the Comptroller Generals Office
of South Carolina, but was unable
to discover any either in relation to
your case or that of any other
Very respect'y y'
John P. Richardson



Nov 16th 1836-
John James Esq.
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Tho  Garnette
affe
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State of South Caroline Personally appeared
Sumter District before me Josiah
Crosby a Justice of the Peace in & for the
District & State aforesaid Thomas Garrett
Simon a very old man a pensioner under the
laws of the United States of the 18 March
1818 1 May 1820 and  1 March 1823 whose
pension certificate is dated 13 December 1825
who after being duly sworn according to Law
says that in is personally acquainted with
John James of the District & State
aforesaid & who is about to make applica
tion to the war department of the United States
for a pension -  that he was acquainted with said James before the Revolutionary war and ever since, that during the Revolutionary war, he thinks he is not certain weather before or after the fall of Charleston he saw Mr James acting as a Lieutenant under Capt Armstrong
of the militia, but he did not serve with Mr James - but that his brother
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David Garrot served with said James
in further says that from what he has heard
from his brother David Garrot as well as
the neighbourhood report he believes that
Mr James did serve as an officer during the
Revolutionary war on the side of the
Americans.
Thos Garrot  Sen His mark

Sworn before me this 21 Nov 35
Jos. I. Cosby
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Planters & Mechanics Bank
Charleston 20 April 1838
L. Edwards   Esq
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington

I forward herewith for authority to pay
Voucher of John James


I am respectfully
Your Ob Ser
A Spears
Pension Agent
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Fulton SC
Ap 11


From
John J Richardson


Hon J L. Edward
Comissioner of Pension
Washington City
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Fulton P. of So Carolina
April 10th 183
J L Edwards
Commission
Sir
Your certificate for a Pension
[illegible] to Mr. John James as duly [illegible]  to the Agent for paying Pensions [illegible] 
Charleston and was refused to [illegible] 
by the reason that no order has yet been
received from Washington to enroll him
The reply to Mr. James application [illegible] by W Spears herewith enclosed
The  [illegible] and disappointment have been
of some inconvenience to Mr. James
and will please inform me as soon as possible
it may be successfully applied for, together
with the arrearages now due
With great respect
Yr obt Svt
John S. Richardson
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War Department
Pension Office
June 20. 1836
Sir,
I have the honor to inform you that the
papers in support of the claim of John James have been examined and are herewith returned to you
The original declaration should be certified by
the Clerk under his official seal in the manner indicated in note of the accompanying printed sheet of regulations, and the credibility of each deponent whose testimony is relied upon
should be certified by the Judge or Justice who administers the oath
By reference to note on the same printed sheet, you will perceive the character of the specification what is deemed indispensible in awarding a prorata pension. Neither the
original or supplemental declaration furnish that detail of said term of service in which the claimant was engaged in the military tours under Marion; for neither his name and 
that of his captain have been found upon the roll of Marion's Continental Regiment which would have been the case if he had constituted a component part of that Regiment.
No objection is raised as to the narration of the other military tours  prior to 1780, except as to the grade of Ensign and Lieutenant. Those grades could not be awarded to
him in the computation of his pension, unless it is distinctly
and
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and satisfactorily made to appear that he held them by legal tenure of Commission from the competent authority, and amount
for the nonproduction of them. It is again suggested that the Comptroller General's Office will afford record evidence of his
service and rank, and the regulations require the best attainable proof
By refering to his statement it will appear that his term of service as a private is alleged to have been ordered when he was 15 years & seven months old; was made Ensign at the age of sixteen, and Lieutenant at the age of seventeen. Such appointments, at so early an age and so unusual as to require very satisfactory proof. No doubt is entertained as to his revolutionary merit, and your statement of its notoriety in the tradition of his neighbor
hood is duly appreciated, but a rateable pension requires that the grade and amount of actual service in field or garrison should be ascertained with satisfactory precision

I have the honor  to be
very respectfully,
G. Moor
J. L. Edwards
Hon Henry L. Pinkney
House of Representatives
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Washington June 21st 1836
Dear Sir

---
I send you on the other side, the
reply of Col Edwards of the Pension office,
to the application made to him in the case of 
James. I presume there can be no difficulty in complying with the [illegible] referred to in his letter, in compliance with which is all that is necessary to ensure the Pension. I shall leave Washington on the 4th July for Charleston, and
if, after my return to that place, I can be
of any for the service in this matter 
they shall be fully rendered, should you
think proper to demand them.
I remain 
truly respectfully yours
H L Pinckney
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L Manning  Esqr
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Hon Henry L Pinckney
Washington City

Hon H L Pinckney
       HR
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June 9th 1836. Fulton S. C
Sir
Your letter of date 20th May last was received in due time-- a week previous to the reception
of your kind favour -  those papers of Mr James's alluded to were return'd by Mr Edwards of the pension office war department to me-- stating the objections to them
first that the periods of service conflicted & that Mr James had serv'd longer periods than was usual in the service-- secondly that the certificate of the Magistrate I.A. Carpenter to the additional declaration of Mr James was informal on account of the absence
of the certificate of the Clerk of Court-- the first objection is I think removed by two affidavits of Mr. H Brunson both pensioners & both of whom have sev'd with Mr James - the
second is removed by the certificate of
the Clerk of Court as required-- I call'd this morning on Judge Richardson who resides but a little way from this to obtain his certificate to
the affidavit of Mr. L & Brunson  - on or rather the signature of Levy F. Rhame a J.Q - but the Judge was out &  I have obtain'd the
certificate of Clerk as in Carpenter's case  - Thereon not to be found but very few indeed of those old heroes who so gloriously struggled-- or else any more necessary
information might be had on the subject
of Mr. James having been from the begining to the end of was a whig - as regards the opinion as to this [illegible] there is not one dissenting one-- & as regards the cal
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for services at regular periods of 3-6 or other short periods-- after a general connfusion took place on over by one neighbourhood  burning the house of his next -- & of one Tory hanging the neck-- no permanent drafts could &
were not made-- that Marion troops were composed of men who had to make his camp their homes & served longer in many instances than 12 & fifteen month at a time-
Mr. James is now a very old man quite infirm & has stated the fact that his recollections of things so long past by is bad and as he had never thought it probable he would
make the call he now makes was in indifferent in proving such written evidences as would now materially have insured the regulations now required--
I am well aware that no information of consequence could have been obtained from the Comptroller Genls Office-- as application on some previous occasion had been made there for information by Major Garden of Charleston for the services of Col Richard
Richardson who commanded a Regt under Marion and rendered essential service - & none could be from him or none of consequence-- this I presume is the case with many a gallant officer of the Militia of our State. ---
I am much gratify'd at your kind expression of my Brother his Lady I shew yr. letter to & she also much gratified. The Revd Mr Elliott & Lady call'd upon my sister on yesterday - they are both well -will be glad to hear from you at all times.  

I Am Dr Sir with much Esteem
Your obt svt
Lau. Manning


Hon H.L. Pinckney
Washington
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Futon SC
Dec 16

Honble John P. Richardson
Mail -
City 
Washington
mail
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Fulton P. Office South Carolina
14th Decr 1836
Dear Sir,


Respecting my application to the
Government thru the Pension office for compensation for my services during the Revolutionary war & which application has been rejected on account of the want of more substantial evidence as regards my my [sic] office of Ensign & Lieut & I admit my pretensions to compensation as a soldier in the American cause are in your protection. The few remaining persons within my reach who bear witness to my services & my situation in the different campaigns are Joseph West, two Garrots  & Mr S. W. Brunson. The certificates  are in your possession with the circumstantial  
evidences of Col Manning, Dr Boyd & Col Richard Richardson ---
I now in consequence of the objections
made for compensation as either Ensign or Lieut relinquish any claim but for services as a soldier during the periods mentioned in my affidavit & authorize you to do for me whatever your judgment may dictate.

John James

Test  Laurence Manning

Honble Col John P. Richardson
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Form 245 25m 6-24 D

USE THIS FORM IN ALL INTER-HOUSE, INTER-COMPANY, BRANCH HOUSE AND SALESMEN CORRESPONDENCE
Please number give number of Volume (or vols) and number of pages or pages, where  where information was found, if any.
was found, if any.
 Thanking you
R. M.D.

Adairsville, Georgia
May 29, 1925
Commissioner of  Pensions,
Washington, DC

My dear Sir, 
At the suggestion of Brig. Gen. Wall I am writing to you for any assistance you may
be able to give me in establishing
the fact that my ancestors, namely,
Major John James and Capt. John James
(father and son fought in the Revolutionary
War, under Gen. Francis Marion. (South Carolina Militia. Have you any records that show that these officers, their widows, or dependent of these officers drew pensions from the government?  If so, will you kindly give me the full names and addresses (at
that time, of such beneficiaries? Also,
any other information in regard to
these officers or their families, and
greatly oblige,
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Rachel M. Dyar
Box 184
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[stamped] U.S. PENSION OFFICE
JAN 26, 1914
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Mobile Ala
Jan 23 /14
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington DC

Will kindly send me the Revolutionary records
(if you have any) of a John James of & his son
John James who afterward moved to S.C. The elder John James was born 1715-20.
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also of a Thomas Scott
Gloucester Co Va.
very much oblige
Truly
(Mrs) Nina Hood Boykin
201 St Louis St
Mobile Ala.
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Pension Bureau
Washington City
D. C
Dear Sir
I am in search of an
Ancester- a Revolutionary soldier - by name of
John James, he was in both in Va. and South Carolina. Have you any record.
of such soldier
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of the Rev. War
Yours Truly
Mrs. Wells Thompson
Thompson
Bay City
Texas
Oct 3. 1910
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State South Carolina
Sumter District
Personally appeared Wm R Brunson who being duly Sworn sayeth that he was well acquainted with John James before the Revolutionary War, and during said war, the said John James was
Drafted and done duty under John Singleton
before the fall of Charleston, after that time the
Said John James Volunteered and done duty
in General Marions Company for a length of
time in company with this deponant-- it was
about the years 1780 & 81 this deponant further States that John James Bore a commission of Lieut or Ensign during part of the war, this deponant further states that he was in company with John James Several times during the war and the said James done his duty faithfully.

Sworn to before me this
8th June 1836
Wm R Brunson
L T Rhame J D

State of South Carolina
John O Dargan Clerk
of the Court of Common Pleas of Sumter District do hereby certify that L.D. Rhame is a Magistrate as above, and the above signature purporting to be his is genuine. In testimony whereof I have hereunto of fixed my seal of Office and subscribed my name
this tenth day of June A.D. one thousand eight hundred and thirty six
A. M.
Dargan
CCP