Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 5043, Valentine Hipp, N.C.
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(3-1776)
SERVICE
N.C. 

Hipp, Valentine
Hipp, Margaret

NUMBER
R. 5043
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[illegible] to John Hipp
Nov. 24 '47

23.753
North Carolina.
Valentine Hipp of Mecklg. [Mecklenburg County] in the State of N. Car. who was a pr. in the - commanded by Captain - of the Regt commanded by Col. Irwin in the N. Car line for 9 mo 14 days - 
Inscribed on the Roll of N Carolina at the rate of 34 Dollars 05 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 21st day of Apr 34 and Hon HW. Connor HR
Arrears to the 4th of March 1834 102.15
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept " [1834]
17.02
$119.17 [total]
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Arth. Rice - Clerk
Book E Vol. 64 Page 58
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State of North Carolina   Court of Pleas
Mecklenburg County   and Quarter
Sessions January Session 1848 on this 25th day of January 1848 personally appeared in open court now in session at the courthouse in  Charlotte Mr Robert Hipp a resident of said County who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the acts of Congress passed July the 7th 1838 Entitled and act granting half pay on pensions to Certin [certain] widows and the act of March the 3rd 1843 and the act of 17th of June 1844 
That he is one of the sones [sons] and one of the heirs at law of Margaret Hipp who was the widow of Valentine Hipp who was a private soldier in the North Carolina Continental line in the war of the Revolution and was Entered on the pensions list at the rate of $34.05 cts per annum in the  North Carolina agency under the act of the 7th of June 1832 .This Claiment [claimant] further declares as he under stands that Valentine Hipp and Margaret Hipp his father and mother ware [were] married in Mecklenburg County some time in the year 1785 and that his father the aforesaid Hipp died on the 9th day of November 1844 and that his mother the aforementioned Margaret Hipp died on the 29th day of May 1844 and that she remained a widow untill [until] her death. this Claimant further declares that he does not know of any record that shows the date of the marriage of the aforesaid Valentine Hipp to his mother nor any record that shows the dates of the births of their children. This Claimant further declares that all the
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heirs at law who survived his mother the aforesaid Margaret Hipp are as follows Nancy who intermarried with [name crossed out, Jessey Johnson] Jackson Westmoreland John Hipp Robert Hipp Margaret who intermarried with Jessey Johnson Joseph Hipp and William Hipp and that they are all of full age. This Claimant further declares that there was no physician attended on her in her last illness nor that there never had been any funeral preached. Sworn to and subscribed before me in open court the day and date first written 
B. Oates [illegible]
Robert [X] his mark Hipp 

State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}
I, B. Oats the Clerk of Mecklenburg County Court do certify that the foregoing Declarations was made and subscribed in open court and that it was proven to the satisfaction of said Court that Valentine Hipp died on 9th day of November 1835 and that his wife the aforesaid Margaret Hipp died on the 29th day of May 1844 and that it was also shown by proof the satisfaction of said Court that all the heirs at law who survived the aforesaid Margaret Hipp are as follows Nancy who intermarried with Jackson Westmoreland John Hipp Robert Hipp Margaret who intermarried with Jessey Johnson Joseph Hipp and William Hipp and that the are all of full age the Court orders the same to be certified to the pension office.
In testimony where off I have hereunto set my name and office the seal of my office this 25th day of Jan 1848  B. Oates  [illegible]
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State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}
on this 23rd day of Oct 1848 personally appeared before Tho J Grier one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said County Mr John Hipp and after being Qualified according to law deposeth on his oath and sayeth that he knows of his own knowledge that Valentine Hipp and his wife Margaret Hipp was married prior to the year 1794 from this fact that he lived asiegh [?] neighbour to them and that he has the record of his own marriage which was on the 15th day of Oct 1799 and he well recollects that the said Valentine & Margaret his wife had at that time six children to wit Andrew Hipp Nancy Hipp John Hipp Robert Hipp Mary Hipp & Margaret and that they always lived together as man and wife and was respectable citizens sworn to and subscribed before me this day and date above mentioned 
Tho J. Grier J.P.     John Hipp  [signatures]
State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}
I, Tho J. Grier the Magistrate before whom the above affidavid was made do certify that I am personally acquainted with Mr John Hipp who made the above affidavid and do certify that he is an gentleman of good character whose veracity cannot be disputed given under my hand and seal this 23rd day of Oct 1848
Tho J. Grier J.P.
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State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}
I, B. Oats Clerk of Mecklenburg County Court of Mecklenburg County do certify that Thomas J. Grier whose name appears to the with in affidavid and certificate is one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said County and the signatures purporting to be his is genuine and all his attestations as such is entitled to full faith and credit in testimony where of I have hereunto set my name and affixed the seal of my office this 23rd day of Oct 1848.
B. Oates [illegible]
Saml J. Lavin
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Sep  2 5
Valentine Hipp
10,917
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State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}
Court of pleas and quarter session
August term 1832
On this 29th day of August 1832 personally appeared before the Justice of the court of pleas and quarter session of Mecklenburg County and State aforesaid open and held foresaid County on that Monday of August 1832 which Court is now in session Valentine Hipp a resident of said County and State aged seventy two years last May who first being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed the 7th June 1832 that he was born in South Carolina some where on Santee river was removed when very young into this county where he has lived ever since that he was born in the year 1760 That when he first entered into the  service of the United States he volunteered under Colo Robert Irwin to go with said Irwin to Hanging Rock but was taken sick and returned home again and remained about two weeks when I joined the troops  against the Calpins [Cowpens?] and marched [illegible words are crossed out] up to the Catawba in here he was dispatched to watch the tories.  I think this was on six week tour. The next service was under Capt Thomas Gaines Cpl Rutherford commanded. Volunteered for three months (in 1780 I think). I was at the battle of Ramsour [Battle of Ramsour's Mill] and the day after the battle joined Cpl Rutherford under Capt Thomas Gerems [?] as above stated Ramsour we marched to Salisbury where we remained until General Gates came, on marched with Gates into South Carolina where my [begin underline] my brother John Hipp came and took my place and sent me home [end underline]. The next service was under Cpl Davidson for six weeks as a Volunteer was with him when he was killed at Cowan Ford on the Catawba River I think on the first day of Feby 17th. altho this was a six weeks tour I remained with the army about three months. The next service was under Capt Charles Polk in the [illegible] service Maj Joseph Graham. I volunteered and marched to Crop Creek now Fay deVille from thence to Wilmington then to New Bern after the tories. This was another month tour, I was regularly discharged in all the Tours I served [illegible] with Gates but has lost or mislaid them so that he cannot now have the benefit of this and that the whole of the time that he was engaged in service [illegible word is crossed out]
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himself  ["or by his" crossed out] added to the time his brother served in his place was about ten months or thereabouts that he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not one [on] the pension roll of any agency in any state in any state - and that he has a record of his  age at home - as to his character for his veracity and as to his service he refers to the certificates of Joseph Graham his commanding officer and of Alexander Cathey and Allen Hearn - there being no clergyman convenient who is acquainted with him there 
Sworn to and subscribed to on the day and year aforesaid 
Isaac Alexander    Valentine Hipp X his mark 

Mr Joseph Graham a resident of Lincoln County State of North Carolina and Alexander Cathey and Allen Hearon hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Valentine Hipp who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration - that we believe him to have been seventy two years of age - that he is reputed and believed to be in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that - I, Joseph Graham further certify that the said Valentine Hipp served under me  while I acted as a Major of Cavalry in the revolutionary war and served under me as he has above declared sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
J Graham
Alxr Cathey [illegible]
Allan Hearon
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as the states and the court further certifies that it appeared to them that ["Valentine" crossed out] Joseph Graham ["who" crossed out]
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["has signed the" crossed out]
who have signed the preceding certificate are residents of the said county of Mecklenburg with the exception of Joseph Graham who lives in Lincoln as above stated and that they are credible persons and their statement entitled to credit

I, Isaac Alexander Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for Mecklenburg County aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Valentine Hipp for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office at Charlotte this 29th day of August 1832 

Isaac Alexander C.M.C.
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[handwritten] See Thos. Ross S4126 & Jas. Ross W 1722 for beginning of this letter [end handwriting] 

The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, H. 5043, based upon the military service of Valentine Hipp.

He was born in May, 1760, somewhere on the Santee River in South Carolina. The names of his parents were not given. When he was very young he moved to Mecklenburg County, North Carolina.

While living in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, he enlisted in the summer of 1780 and served with the North Carolina troops at various times, amounting to nine months and fourteen days in all, as private under Captains Thomas Givens, Robert Irwin, Charles Polk,  and Major Joseph Graham; he was in the battles of Ramsour's Mill and Cowan's Ford. 

He was allowed pension on his application  executed August 29,1832, at which time he was living in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. 

Valentine Hipp died November 9, 1838.

This soldier married in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, about 1785, Margaret, her Maiden name not stated.

She died May 29, 1844.

They had the following children: Andrew, born about February, 1786; Nancy, who married Jackson Westmoreland; John; Robert, living in Mecklenburg County in 1848; Margaret, who married Jessey Johnson; Mary; Joseph; William N. aged forty-seven or forty-eight in 1851 and living in Mecklenburg County. 

In 1848 one John Hipp stated that he was married October 15, 1799, and that Valentine and Margaret Hipp then had six children, the first six named above. 

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator
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State of N. Carolina}
County of Mecklenburg} SS,

BE IT KNOWN, That on this 30th day of August A.D. eighteen hundred fifty one before the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appears William N. Hipp a resident of Mecklenburg County and made oath according to law that he is the son of a Margaret Hipp who applied for a pension under the Active of 7th July 1838 as the widow of Valentine Hipp who was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States at a rate of thirty four and 05/100 Dollars per annum; that he has been informed that the said Pension ought to be assigned; that he is directly interested as a claimant in said Pension and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments as my Agent may use in prosecuting said claim.  
Sworn to and subscribed, the day}
and year aforesaid, before me.}
W. H. Neal, J. Peace} 
William H. Neal [signature]

I, Wm. H. Neal, Justice of the Peace, in and for said County do hereby certify that William N. Hipp who executed the foregoing paper is a respectable resident of this County, and is, I believe, directly interested in said claim as therein set forth.  
W. H. Neal, J. Peace [signature]

I, Braley Oates, Clerk of the County Court of the County and State aforesaid, do hereby certify that W. H. Neal before whom the foregoing papers were executed, was, at the date of the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly authorize by law to administer oaths; and the name thereunto subscribed, is his signature.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed my official Seal, this 30th day of August A.D. 1851.  
B. Oates, Clerk by James Parks, Dept.
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KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENTS, that I, William N. Hipp - of the county of Mecklenburg and State of North Carolina hereby constitute and appoint George C. Ames Esq. my true and lawful Agent and Attorney, to prosecute the Claim of Margaret Hipp for any amount of Revolutionary Pension, or increase of Pension that may be due; and I hereby authorize my said Agent to Examine all the papers and documents in relation to said claim, on file in the Departments at Washington City, or elsewhere; to file additional evidence of arguments; and to receive the Certificate which may be issued for said claim, which Certificate I wish made payable to [left blank] to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed; and to do all the things that I might or could do were I personally present. Hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said Attorney and Agent shall lawfully do in the premises.
Witness my hand and Seal this 30th day of August A.D. 1851
William N. Hipp
Signed and Sealed in the presence of
Wm. K. Neal J.P. 

State of N Carolina}
County of Mecklenburg} SS:
On this 30th day of August AD 1851 before me, the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, personally appeared William N. Hipp and acknowledged the foregoing Power of Attorney to be his act and deed, for the purposes therein mentioned. 
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I hereunto set my hand, the day and year aforesaid.
W. H. Neal, Peace [signature]

Marg. Hipp [pencil annotation on side of document]
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Valentine Hipp
N.C.
Admit a purch.
6 mo. 14 days July 21 55
3: Cost 12.50
$34.05 [total]

Hon. H W Conner
HR
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State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}
Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions
May Term 1833

On this 30th day of May A.D. 1833 personally appeared before the justices of the Court of Pleas and quarter sessions of Mecklenberg aforesaid opened and held on the 4th Monday of May A.D. 1833. Which said court is now sitting Valentine Hipp a resident of said county who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following amended declaration to his original declaration herewith enclosed and appended in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. that being illiterate  and not well acquainted with all the regulations on the War Department he got a person to draw up his declaration who understood the business as he thought better than himself that when he first entered the service of the United States he was a resident of Mecklenburg County and in said service in the summer of 1780 volunteered under Col. Robert Irwin for six weeks and and during his sickness of two weeks was absent. That he joined the army of Irwin again and served four weeks and was regularly discharged which discharge is lost. That in the next tour or campaign mentioned in declarants original declaration when he got his brother John to take his place and when he went home he was absent from the army eight days and no more and resumed his station and served out the time and that all the time his brother was in his place his brother John regularly answered to the name of declarant and was regularly discharged which discharge [illegible crossed out word] is lost. That when [illegible words are crossed out] Genl Davidson was killed at Cowans Ford on the Catawba in the year 1781 and when declarant served and has stated in his original declaration he acted as a sentry of the outposts of the army near the [illegible two words] River. this declarant alleges that Captain Thompson on this trip gave him a ticket for minute service including the [illegible two words] for three months which he actually served. but that the ticket is
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lost and that although he engaged with Davidson [illegible] for six weeks he did serve three months. The declarant does [illegible] as a fact of which he has no doubt tho he does believe that he served longer. That he did serve in the months set forth in his original declaration and also in this his amended declaration ten months lacking eight days for which his brother answered in his place which would be of actual service nine months and two weeks. This declarant further states that there is not clergy man that lives in his neighbourhood [neighborhood] and that he lives on the Catawba River and the congregation in which he lives there is no resident clergy man – that the clergyman who has charged of the congregation lives in another quarter of the county and has only take charge of said congregation within a few years – that the former clergy man parson Humphrey Hunter during the Revolution War was war declarant lieutenant when Givens was his Captain but that Hunter is dead and unable to certify to his character or testify to his services. This defendant begs leave to refer to his original declaration as to his character and services and deems that he answered all the exceptions levied against him all which is most respectfully submitted. 
Sworn and subscribed this 30th day of}
May AD 1833 in open court}
Valentine Hipp X His Mark

And the court now sitting do declare that the said Hipp who now files his amended declaration having heretofore filed his original declaration for a pension in the form and that they are satisfied that he served as he states and from the preceding certificates attached to his original declaration that he entitled to credit as from other evidence before us.
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I Braley Oates clerk of the court of Pleas and quarter sessions for the county of Mecklenburg and state aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the proceedings of said court in the matter of Valentine Hipp upon his application in his amended declaration for a pension.  In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal of office at office in Charlotte this 30th day of May 1833. 
B. Oates Clerk of Mecklenburg County
[seal is affixed to document]
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State of N. Carolina Mecklenburg County}
This day personally appeared before me H. M. Ross an acting justice of the peace for the county aforesaid two aged women in Mary Hudson and Nancy Todd and after being duly sworn according to law that they were born and raised in the immediate neighbourhood [neighborhood] about one mile of the place where Valentine and Margaret Hipp his wife were married and raised their families,  They further state that said Valentine and Margaret Hipp had by their marriage eight children all of whom they know personally well, and they are fully satisfied from the ages of Valentine & Margaret Hipp and children that their marriage must have taken place about the year 1785. They were not at the marriage, but remember about the time it happened, and know perfectly well that they live together as man and wife from the day of their marriage until the death of Valentine Hipp. They further state that the oldest child by said marriage was named Andrew Hipp and if he was now living he would be sixty three or four years old that they youngest child is named Wm Hipp and he is now forty seven or eight years old. They further state that this saw all the children of Valentine and Margaret Hipp baptized.
September 13th 1851 Mary Hudson [signature]
Nancy Todd X Her Mark
Sworn to & subscribed before me the day & year above written. H.M. Ross. JP
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State of N. Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}

This 13th day of September 1851
personally appeared before F M Ross one of the acting Justice of the Peace in and for Mecklenburg County, John Neel and was sworn according to law to the following statement, viz. That he lived within one mile of Valentine and Margaret Hipp that they were always reputed to have been legally married. And I know they lived together as man and wife from my first recollection until the death of Valentine Hipp.  I was born on the 21st day of February 1785 and I believe that Andrew Hipp, son of Valentine was born in the month of February 1786.  We went to school several years together and we have compared our  ages frequently, and I  know that I was always considered one year older than him besides I have seen the record of his age in an old Bible. And I cannot be mistaken. I know that Valentine and Margaret Hipp had eight children by their said marriage and all of whom I know perfectly well. I saw several of the younger children baptized in the Presbyterian Church at Paw Creek.         

John Neel [signature]
Sworn to & Subscribed before me this day & year above written 

F. M. Ross JP
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No 13359
Margaret Hipp, widow of Valentine
NC
Act of July 1838
Declaration
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January 28, 1926
Mrs. Abel C. Lineberger
Belmont N.C.
Madam:
I have to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, R. 5043, it appears that VALENTINE HIPP was born in May 1760 near Santee River, South Carolina. 
While living in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, he enlisted in the summer of 1780 and served with the North Carolina Troops at various times, amounting to nine months and fourteen days in all, as private under Captains Thomas Civens, Robert Irwin, Charles Polk, and Major Joseph Graham; he was in the battles of Ramsour's Mill and Cowan's Ford. He was allowed pension on this application executed August 29, 1832, at which time he was living in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. He died November 9, 1838.
He married in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, about 1785, Margaret, her maiden name not stated. She died May 29, 1844.
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They had the follow children: Andrew, born about February, 1786; Nancy who married Jackson Westmoreland ; John ; Robert ; Mary ; Margaret, who married Jessey Johnson ; Joseph ; and William N., age forty-seven or forty-eight years in 1851.
Respectfully, 
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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[handwritten] Margt Hipp N.C.

STATE OF
COUNTY OF 

BE IT KNOWN, That on this [blank] day of [blank] A.D., and State aforesaid, personally appeared [blank] a resident of [blank] County, and made oath in due form of law, that is the [blank] of [blank] who made application for a Pension, and was allowed at the rate of $ [blank] per annum, that  [blank]  has been informed that said Pension ought to be  [blank]  that  [blank]  is directly interested as a claimant in said Pension, and makes this affidavit to be filed with such additional evidence or arguments, as my Agent may use in prosecuting said claim.

Sworn to and Subscribed, the day and year aforesaid, before me }  [blank] 

J.P.

I,  [blank] a Justice of the Peace, in and for the said County, do hereby certify, that  [blank] who executed the foregoing paper, is a respectable resident of this County, and is I believe, directly interested in said claim as therein set forth.

J.P.

State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}

Sep 27-32

I, [Braley Oates] Clerk of the County Court for the County and State aforesaid, do hereby certify, that John P Ross before whom the foregoing papers were executed, was at the date of the same, and is now, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly authorized by law to administer oaths, and the name thereunto subscribed is his signature.

[T Lumpkin]
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I hereunto subscribed my name and affixed my seal of office, this Twentyth [Twentieth] day of September A.D. 1852

[B. Oates Clerk of Mecklenburg County]
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STATE OF North Carolina}
COUNTY OF Mecklenburg}
KNOW ALL MAN BY THESE PRESENTS, That I, William N. Hipp of the County of Mecklenburg and State of North Carolina do hereby constitute and appoint William Lumpkin my true and lawful Agent and Attorney, to prosecute the claim of Margaret Hipp for any amount of Revolutionary Pension or increase of Pension, that may be due; and I hereby authorize the said Agent to examine all the papers and documents in relation to said claim, on file in the Departments at Washington City, or elsewhere, to file additional evidence or arguments, and to receive the Certificate which may be issued for said claim, which Certificate I wish made payable to Wm. N. Hipp & Robert Hipp to appoint one or more substitutes under him for the purposes herein expressed, and to do all things that might or could do were not personally present. Hereby ratifying and confirming all that my said Attorney
and Agent shall lawfully do in the premises; and revoking any and all other Power of Attorney that I may have heretofore made in relation to this Claim.
Witness my hand and seal this 17th
day of September A.D. 1852-
Signed and sealed in the presence of
H. M. Ross
William N. Hipp 
STATE OF North Carolina
COUNTY of Mecklenburg
ON THIS 17th day of September A. D. 1862 before me, the subscriber, a Justice of
the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, personally appeared Wm Hipp
and acknowledged the foregoing Power of Attorney to be his act and deed,
for the purposes therein mentioned.
IN TESTIMONY WHERE, the day and
H. M. Ross J.P. [signature]
William N. Hipp [signature]
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[envelope]
Feby [February] 3/48
Cl 10.559
Margaret Hipp, wo [widow] of Valentine.   
NC
1838


Shelby NC}
Jany [January] 28}
[illegible word]

E. L. Edwards, Com. of Pension
Washington City, D.C.
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Shelby January the 27th 1848

Dear Sir I Enclouse [enclose] to you
the Declaration of the heirs of Margaret
Hipp who was the widow of Valentine
Hipp who was a private soaldior [soldier] in the war
Please Examine the case I have sent the
best proof of the marriage that I know of
and the proof of her death if the proof is
not satisfactory send me what is lacken [lacking] direct your letter to me at Shelby Cleaveland [Cleveland] County
Yours Respectfully
John Hipp
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Washington Nov 12 1851
James E Heath Esq
Sir
Enclosed you will please find Power of attorney in the Case of Margaret Hipp widow of Valentine Hipp who was an applicant for a pension under the act of 7 July 1838.

I transmit also several affidavits showing clearly the marriage of these parties prior to 1794.

Very Respectfully
Your Obt Sert [Your obedient servant]
Geo C Ames
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Novem. [November] 84/
[illegible]
Margaret Hipp

Shelby, N.C.
Nov. 2

E. L. Edwards, Com. of Pensions
Washington City, D.C.


5
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Shelby November 2nd 1847

Dear Sir I wish you to Examine the case of Mrs [Mrs.] Margaret Hipp which was filed in your office some six years ago by Mr [Mr.] Davidson from Charlotte N [North] Carolina. 
She was the widow of Valentine Hipp and makes report to me what proof is lacking direct your letter to N [North] Carolina Cleaveland [Cleveland] County Shelby post office to me

Yours Respectfully
John Hipp
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Dec 5, 48,
Margaret Hipp
Widow of Valentine
add proof
J Carrolls

Shelby, NC
May 26

E. L. Edwards, Com. of Pensions
Washington City, D.C.

10 [crossed out]
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Shelby November 26th 1848
Dear sir I Enclouse [enclose] to you the
affidavid of Mr John Hipp to
be used in the case of Margaret
Hipp Decd widow of Valentine Hipp
Decd direct you letter to me at
Shelby Cleaveland [Cleveland] County N Carolina
Yours Respectfully
Joseph Carroll
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State of North Carolina}
Mecklenburg County}
I, Braly Oates Clerk of the County Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for said County do certify that I have made due & diligent search among the records of my office for the marriage Bond of Valentine Hipp and that there is no such Bond in my Office

In testimony [illegible] I have hereto set my name & affixed my seal of Office at Charlotte this 24th day of January AD. 1848

B. Oates Clerk
J. Sam [Samuel] J. Lowrie J.P.
[affixed seal]
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State of North Carolina Mecklenburg County} on this 25th day of January 1848
Personally appeared before me Mr John Neel before me George C Cathy one of the acting 
Justices of the Peace in and for said County and after being first qualified according to law
deposeth on oath and sayeth that he as personally acquainted with Valentine 
Hipp and his wife Margaret and knows of 
his own personal knowledge that they were married prior to the 1st day of January 1794
from this fact that he lived with in one half
mile of them and was there very often when 
he was but a boy and that they always [always] lived together as man and wife and bout [about] Eighteen years after they got Married he [illegible] got married himself which he has the date which was on the 17th day of May 1803 and at that time the said Hipp had Eight Children and that they were respectable members of the Presbyterian Church and good citizens sworn to and subscribed this day and date above written
G. C. Cathy, J.P. [signature]                    
John Neel [signature]


State of North Carolina} 
Mecklenburg County}
I George C Cathy the Magistrate before whom the above affidavice  was prooven [proven] do certify that I am personally acquainted with Mr John Neel who made the above affidavid [affidavit] and do certify that he is an old gentlemen of high respectability whose veracity cannot be disputed given under my hand and seal this 25th day of January 1848          G. C. Cathy, JP
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State of North Carolina Mecklenburg County} on this 25th day of January 1845
personally appeared Mrs Mary Hudson 
before me George C Cathy one of the acting
Justices pf the peace and for said County
and after being qualified according to 
law deposith and sayeth that she deponent
knows that Valentne Hipp and his wife 
Margaret were married prior to the 1st day of 
January 1794  although she did not see them 
married, but from this fact that she has 
the record of known age which shows that
she deponent was born in the year 1778 and
when she was a very small girl she heard that 
they were Married and from that time the 
said valentine Hipp and his wife Margaret Hipp 
always lived together as man and wife 
that they lived within less one mile of them and when she deponent got married which was on the 15th day of March 1803 at that time the said Valentine Hipp and his wife Margaret had Eight children and that she knows that some of the children at this time is sixty years old or upwards  Sworn to and Subscribed before me this day and date above written 
G. C. Cathy JP                        Mary Hudson 

State of North Carolina
Mecklenburg County }
I Geoge C Cathy the magistrate before whom the above affidavid was proven do certify that I am personally acquainted with Mrs Mary Hudson who made the above affidavid and do certify that she is an old lady of good character and veracity given under my hand and seal this 25th day of January 1848 
G..C.. Cathy JP
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State of North Carolina
Mecklenburg County}
On this 25th day of January 1848 personally appeared Mr Archibald Hill before me George C Cathy one of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said county and after being qualified according to law deposith and sayeth on oath that he deponent knows of his own personal knowledge that Mrs Margaret Hipp widow of Valentine Hipp died on the 29th day of May 1844 from this fact that he was called on to make the coffen for said Margaret Hipp which he did and charged the same on his books which shows that it was on the 29th day of May 1844
Sworn to and subscribed before me this day and date first above written 

Archibald Hill
G. C. Cathy JP

State of North Carolina
Mecklenburg County} 
I George C Cathy the magistrate before whom the above affadavid  was made do certify that I am personally acquainted Mr Archibald Hill who made the above affadavid and do certify that he is a gentlemen of high respectability whose veracity cannot be disputed given under my hand and seal this day of January 1848 

G. C. Cathy JP
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State of North Carolina 
Mecklenburg County

J. Gray Gates Clerk of the County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for said County do hereby certify that George C. Cathey, whose name appears to the written officiants of certificates is now and was at the time of signing the same an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said County and that the sig names purporting to be his is genuine, and that full faith and credit is due & ought to be given to all his official acts as such. 

In testimony whereof I have hereunto put my name and affixed my Seal of Thee at Charlotte this 25th day of January, A.D. 1848

D. Oates Lebb 
Dr Sam J Lowrie, D. C.
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State of North Carolina
Mecklenburg County
I Braly Oates Clerk of the County
Court of the County & State aforesaid, do hereby certify
that I M. Rols before whom the foregoing papers were
executed, was, at the date of the same a Justice of
the Peace in and for said County duly authorized by law
to administer oaths, and the name thereunto subscribed
is his signature
In testimony whereof I have hereunto
subscribed my name & affixed my
official seal this 17th day of September
A.D. 1851

B. Oates Clerk of
Mecklenburg Co Court
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No 13559
Margaret Hipp. jew
widow of Valentine
N,E
Late Jno Hipp
July 11 1828
St. Joseph Carroll
May 31 1899
Lele T. [illegible], June 4/53
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Feb 7. 1853
Rel: to claim of
Margt Hipp
wid: of Valentine
Ms. Sumpkin
Present.
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Washington D.C. 
Feb 9th 1853

Sir.
My authority is filed in the case of Margaret Hipp, of N.C. widow of Valentine Hipp, Act 7th July 38, also in the case of Margaret Cathey, widow of  _____ [blank] same Act, suspended because they were not in [illegible] at the passage of the Act aforesaid. I now claim the arrears of pension due them under a recent decision of the Secretary of the Interior in the care of Eunice Guthrie.

I have the honor to be very truly, 
Ths Lumpkin 
Hon. J. C. Heath,
Commissioner of Pensions
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of 
[in cursive] Valentine Hipp 
which require further proof or explanation. 
1. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? [in cursive] yes
2. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? [in cursive] yes
3. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
4. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? [in cursive] No
5. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? [in cursive] No
6. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with regulations? [in cursive] Yes
7. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? [in cursive] Yes
8. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? [in cursive] Yes
9. Has the Court given their opinion? [in cursive] yes
10. Has the Clerk given his certificate? [in cursive] yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
[handwritten] yes as to others

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
[handwritten] yes

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?

XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? [handwritten] yes

If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? [handwritten] yes

Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? [handwritten] yes

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? [handwritten] yes

XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? [handwritten] yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? [handwritten] yes

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EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he
cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For ___ year ____ months, and ____ days, I served as a ____ For ____ months and ____ day, I served as a ____; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served,
and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the
pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too in-
definite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions
merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the
officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objection-
able. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served ; the duration
of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the
applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either
in
the field or in garrison ; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not em-
ployed in any civil pursuit.

QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of the office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

(sub bullet) In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificated of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

(Handwritten note at the bottom)
If no one can be entitled  to the allowance: 

for -?- performed by a substitute, the applicant must amend his *deduction* by letters
for exact time that he --actual service -
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1926 Jan 28
?
Abel C. Lineberger WCS

1933 Apr. 21 hist. to Mrs & Mr J.M. Dunlap per request of widow. Josiah W Bailey see correspondence. widow. Thos. Ross 
4126 WCS


Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 8, 1873

5043

P.O. Margaret Hipp
Service: Widow of Valentine

Enlisted: REJECTED, 18__.
Discharged: ___, 18__.

Application filed: ___, 18__.

Alleges: ______
Re-enlisted: _____

Attorney: _____
P.O. ________
___ Recognized.  ____Contract.
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Belmont, N.C.
Dec. 18, 1925
Rev. War Dept.
Will you kindly send
me the reference of Book
which records the
Revolutionary War Service
& Pension of my ancestors, Valentine Hipp,
of Mecklenburg Co.
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N.C. I will greatly appreciate your favor, and especially if you can reply at once. 
Thanking you in advance 
I am 
Very Truly yours,
Martha Hipp Lineberger
(Mrs. Abel C.)

References
Maj. Bulwinkle, House of Rep.
Senators Simmons and Brennan of North Carolina.