Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 6500, Gideon Allen, Vt.
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(3 - 1776 )
SERVICE
Vt.
Allen, Gideon
NUMBER
S. 6500
CONTENTS
carded
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19826
14419
New York
Gideon Allen
of Cayuga Co in the State of New York who was a Sergeant in the Company commanded by Captain Janyver of the [Regt [Regiment] commanded by Col Whitson in the Rev. war line for 9 os.
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Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 45 Dollars 00 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831
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Certificate of Pension issued the 27 day of May
1833 and Sent to A. Gould Auburn
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Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $90.00
Semi-annual allowance ending [illegible]
22.50
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$112.50
Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by W.L. Williams Clerk,
Book E Vol. 4 Page 14
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Gideon Allen
19826
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State of New York
Cayuga County
⎬
On this twenty third day of November AD
1832 personally appeared before me one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Cayuga in said State Gideon Allen a resident of the town of Springport in said County aged eighty four years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832
That he entered the service under the following named officers and served as herein stated That in the forepart of April AD 1778 - then being a resident of the town of Pollet in the County of Bennington & State of Vermont, he enlisted into a company of State troops as he believes commanded by Captain Thomas Sawyer, Lieut. _ _ _ _ _ Blancher & Ensign _ _ _ _ _ Sawyer in the Regiment commanded by Whitson, but does not recollect whether he was then a Major or Col, and marched to Rutland and was there stationed and continued to serve in said company a term of nine months, that he was employed part of the time in building a fort at said place and served as a guard upon the frontiers, that he was some times engaged in scouting parties and once whilst out on a scout at one time a skirmish took place in which one of the party was wounded, and two of the enemy were wounded and taken prisoners, that he was appointed a Sargeant [Sergeant] in said company and continued to serve as such during the whole of said term of nine months-- that he never received a written discharge from said service and has no documentary evidence thereof, 
that he has not the proof of any living witness to said services and and cannot procure it as he believes, that he was born in the town of
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East Haven
in the County of New Haven and
State of Connecticut AD 1748 & has a record of his age in his Bible[,] where he continued to
reside until he was two years old, then was
removed by his Father to Woodbury County of Litchfield
Connecticut moved from there to Pollet, Vermont when he was twenty-six
year old from thence to Granville from thence
he removed to the County of Cayuga in the
State of New York where he has resided for
forty one years & where he now resides, that Abner Wakely clergyman & Peter Flinn in his neighborhood can testify as to his character and
that whilst in said service he saw and knew
the following named officers Col Warner Gen
Ethan Allen Col. Herrik [Herrick]
That he never served with a continental Regiment
or a militia Regiment excepting some short towers
He hereby relinquishes all claim to a
pension
except the present and declares that his name
is not on the pension roll of any state or territory.
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Asahel Fitch Judge
Gideon Allen

We, Abner Wakely a clergyman residing in the
town of Ledyard in the County of Cayuga and
Peter Flinn
residing in the town Springport do certify that we are well acquainted with
Gideon Allen who has subscribed and
Sworn to the preceeding [preceding] declaration, that we
believe him to be eighty four years of age
that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood [neighborhood] where he resides to have been a soldier
of the Revolution and that we concur in that
opinion
Abner Wakelee
Peter Flinn
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid 
Abner Wakelee affirmed
Asahel Fitch Judge

And the said judge hereby declares his opinion
after an investigation of the matter and after
putting the interrogatories prescribed by the
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war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary officer and served as he states, and the Judge further certifies that it appears to him that Abner Wakely who has signed the preceeding [preceding] certificate is a
resident of Ledyard in the County of Cayuga and Peter Flinn who has also signed the same
is a resident of Springport and
are credible persons and that their statement
is entitled to credit, and I further certify
that the said Gideon Allen is unable to attend
Court by reason of age & bodily infirmity, and
that he has not been able to leave his residence for a number of years
Dated November 23th AD 1832
Asahel Fitch Judge
State of New York
Cayuga County
I Michael S Myers Clerk of the Court
of Common Pleas in and for said County
of Cayuga do certify that the foregoing
contains the original proceeding of the
said Asahel Fitch in the matter of
the application of Gideon Allen for a pension, that the said Asahel Fitch before whom the
foregoing declaration and certificate were made &
by whom the foregoing certificate was made, was on
the day of the date of the same one of the Judges
of said Court, that I am well acquainted with
the hand writing of the said judge and believe his
signature to the said declaration & certificates to
be his proper handwriting and signature-
Witness my hand and seal of office the 26th
day of November AD 1832
M. S. Myers Clerk
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State of New York
Cayuga County ⎬ ss John Grover of Auburn in said County being duly sworn deposes and says that he is aged sixty six years, that he
is well acquainted with Gideon Allen who has
subscribed and sworn to the foregoing declaration
that he became acquainted with him in the year
1781 in the time of the Revolutionary war at the
town of Granville in the County of Washington
& State of New York where they both resided at that
time, that he at that time understood and it was
generally believed in the neighbourhood [neighborhood] where the
said Allen lived that he had been a soldier in
said war, that he has known the said Allen
for many years in the County of Cayuga, that
as far as he has had means of knowing, it
has been the general impression among the friends
and neighbours [neighbors] of the said Allen that he was
soldier in said war that he has never heard
the fact doubted by any one and has no doubt
of it himself, that the said Allen has always
sustained a fair character as a moral man & a man of truth and veracity.
Sworn & subscribed this 26th day of November AD 1832 before me
H. Tifft Justice of the peace
John Grover
I certify that the said John Grover is one of the
justices of the peace in & for the County of Cayuga
and a man of truth & veracity. Dated Nov 26 1832
H. Tifft Justice
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State of New York
Cayuga County ⎬ ss I Michael S Myers Clerk of said County do certify that Henry Tifft Esq
before whom the within affidavit
was made and by whom the within
certificate was made was on the day
of the date thereof a justice of the peace in and for said County, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and
believe his signature to the said affidavit &
certificate to be genuine Witness my hand &
seal of office the 26th day of November AD 1832
M. S. Myers Clerk
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No 19826
Gideon Allen
Cayuga Co. N. York
admitted.
9 mo. Sergeant
A Gould Agent
Auburn N. York
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir: 
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has
been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of
your case in a tabular form.
On comparing these papers with the following rules, and
the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed,
before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is
necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed,
you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: }). You will, when
you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and
you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your
claim.

[Table:]
A Statement, shewing the service of Gideon Allen Cayuga N. York
Period when the service was rendered [:] Enlisted 1778
Duration of the
claimant's service [:] Months 9
Rank of the claimant. [:] Sergt
Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. [:] Cap Sawyer Lt Blan
Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. [:] Major Col Whitson
Battles in which the applicant was engaged.
Country through which he marched.
Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. [:] aged 84
 Bennington VT
Evidence by which the declaration is supported. [:] [illegible] & living witness

I am, respectfully, Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army,
and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia" and "volunteers, all
persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service but not those who
were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to
Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are
also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged
in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
1. The Regular Troops.
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
3. Persons employed in the Naval service.
4. Indian Spies.
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming
the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of
Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is
considered a Court of Record.
of

DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of
County of
On this [_______] day of [________]
personally appeared (a) before A.B. a resident (b) of [_________] in the county of [_________] and State, Territory or District of [________] aged (c) [________] years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the
following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provion made by the act of Congress, passed
June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) [_______], with [______] and served in the [_______]
(e) regiment of the [______] line, under the following officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served
under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the
town or county and State in which he resided when he enered [entered] the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged,
and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons
who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he
declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of
the Agency in the State of [_______]
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A.B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary
soldier, and served as he states.
I [_______] of the Court of [________]
do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of [______] for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this
day of [______] &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be
found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia,
except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and
subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the [_______] and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with 
subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be [______]
years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
(And then will follow the certificate of the Court.)
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after
putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary
Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the [_______]
and that C.D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the [_______] and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, [________] Clerk of the Court of [______] do hereby certify do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the applicacation [application] for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal
of office, this [______] day of [______] &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if
possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services
of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light
upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will
also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful
in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his
alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected.
All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
1. Where and in what year were you born?
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute?
And if a substitute, for whom?
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
{To a Soldier. {Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?
{To an Officer. {Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons - one of whom should be
the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion.
If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct
proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the
opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.

[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the
loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his
recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:--For ------- year ---------- months, and -------- days, I served as a __________. For -------months and ---------- days, I served as a _________; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is
highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i]The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.

[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer under his seal of office. The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops, The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF
AUDITOR FOR INTERIOR DEPARTMENT
IN REPLYING QUOTE INITIALS
October 7, 1915
The Commissioner of Pensions.

Sir:

In reply to your letter of the sixteenth ultimo,
you are informed that, according to the latest account rendered by the U. S. Pension Agent, at Albany, N. Y., the records of this office show last payment to have been made to
Gideon Allen, Sergt., Army Rev., certificate No. 14419, at $45.00 per annum, to March 4, 1841, to Luman W. Capen, Attorney.
Said pensioner resided in Springport, Cayuga County, N. Y., for forty-eight years, and previous thereto he resided in Granville, Washington County, N. Y., but the date of his death is not shown.
Letter herewith returned.
Respectfully,
J[illegible] Ray
Acting Auditor.
By
Deputy Auditor.
Form 3577
Ed. Jan. 24-11 - 2,000.
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In reply to your request of [______________], received [___________] for a statement of the military history of Gideon Allen
a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
S.F. 6500
 [Table}

DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
Apr. 1778
LENGTH OF SERVICE.
9 mos.
RANK.
Sergt.
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.
CAPTAIN.
Thomas Sawyer
COLONEL.
Whitson
STATE.
Vt
Battles engaged in,
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Pawlet, Bennington Co, Vt.
Date of application for pension, Nov. 23, 1832. His cl. was al.
Residence at date of application, Springport, Cayuga Co. N.Y
Age at date of application, Born in 1748, at East Haven, New Haven Co, Conn.
Remarks: There is no data relative to family.
For date of last payment of pension and name of person to whom said payment was made, you should address the Auditor for the Interior
Dept., U.S. Treas. Dept., citing the following date: Gideon Allen, Cert. No 14419, issued May 27, 1833, at 45 per an. from Mch. 4, 1831 under June 7, 1832, N.Y. agency.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.
[illegible]
6--2856
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Apl 1, 1905 History to
Miss M. P. Allen, Mt. Clemens, Mich.
Orrin P. Allen, Palmer Mass
Apl. 3, 1905 to J. W. Alward N. Y. City
1915, Sept. 16, History to
Laura A. Madden F. W.
1915. Sept. 16. To Auditor for
death &c. F.W.

Rev War
6500
INVALID.
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File No. 6500
Gideon Allen
Priv. Rev. War
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Act: June 7th 1832
Index: -- Vol. A, Page 6
Arrangement of 1870.]
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3 -- 307.
(Old No. 3 - 399.)

[Stamp]:
[illegible]
SEP 17 1915
F.W. Ex'r.

Rev. War Section
Cert. No. 14,419 
Rev. War
S. File 6500

Department of the Interior,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
Washington, D. C. Sept. 16, 1905.

SIR:
For use in the above-entitled claim for pension, you are requested to
furnish this Bureau with a report in the case of Gideon Allen, allowed $45 per annum, from Mch. 4, 1831 pensioned under the Act of June 7, 1832 by certificate No. 14419, issued May 27, 1833, at the New York Agency,
showing the date of his death, and name of
person to whom the arrears of his
pension were paid.
Very respectfully,
G Saltzgaber
Commissioner

THE AUDITOR FOR THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT,
Auditors Building,
14 and B. Sts., S. W., Washington, D.C.

O-2
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[Stamp]:
OLD WAR & NAVY
MAR 14 1905
FILES.
U.S.P.B.
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No # 45, 202
[illegible]
Palmer, Mass, Mar 7, 1905
Hon. Commissioner of Pensions
Dept. of the Interior,
C13536

Dear Sir:
Gideon Allen who died at Springport, N.Y. his
home in 1841, had service in the
Revolutionary war. His descendants
desire to know whether or not his
name is on the pension roll
and if so what is said of his
service, and in whose company
or regiment he served or any
other facts, which may be on record,
Your kind reply will be
very much appreciated.
Very truly yours
Orrin P. Allen

Date of death not known
[Stamp]:
U.S. PENSION OFFICE
A MAR 9 1905
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[Stamp]:
U.S. PENSION OFFICE.
A MAR 10 1905
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[illegible] file 45,202

JACKSON W. ALWARD,
69 WALL STREET,
NEW YORK.

[Stamp]:
MAR 15 1905
-
Mar 9. 1905
Hon. Commissioner of Pension
Washington D.C.

Sir
I am informed that Gideon Allen of Cayuga Co. N.Y. was a Revolutionary War pensioner,
and as I am compiling a genealogical record of one branch of the Allen family, I should like to make mention of the services he performed.
He was a resident of Vermont as the turn of the Revolution 
and undoubtedly was one of the four mentioned in the enclosed memorandum
and if will kindly tell me which
one I shall be greatly obliged
Very Respectfully J. W. Alward
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[Stamp]:
U.S. PENSION OFFICE.
A MAR 13 1905

Mt. Clemens. March 11-1905
To the Pension Clerk of the Pension Department
at Washington D.C.
Sir
While studying up to find
our family line through from the founder, am interested to know all I can learn
of his war record, his name is Gideon
Allen born in the 1740s. prior to and
during the Rev. War period, lived in
Pawlet Vt, and was a soldier in
that war, his grd [grand] children from several different families from N. Y. state &
other states wrote me and told me he
was & also that he got a pension, a
cousin who lives in Detroit says
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he knows he did for his father lived in
Grd F. Gideon's house previous to
[and] at the time of Grd T. Gideon's death
which was in the year 1841.
I wish to know if his name is on the Pension Roll of Revolutionary soldiers. His name is in the Vermont State Roll of Revolutionary Soldiers [and] also informed he performed some services. Would you please tell me what these services were. I was told by one of the
cousins that he was an Officer though
it might have been a non commissioned
officer, in that case would his name be down
as an officer anywhere among the war records there. Also a cousin told me (not wrote me) that Grd. F. Gideon was in the march
for the Battle of Bennington but
over
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during the march was broken out
with the measles, and could not
go on with them; in that case would
his name be retained in his company
or regiment.
and I would like to
know any of his superior officers
he had during the war. Capt. Col.
Genl could it not be found somewhere in the govt  buildings
One thing more concerning him, would
his fathers name be d[illegible], I know his
father could not have been in the war for
he must have been nearly 60 yrs of age[.]
Would please look on the Pension
Roll and see if the name of Justus
Allen is there, this cousin also said
this Justus Allen was in the

[Stamp]:
U.S. PENSION OFFICE.
A MAR 13 1915
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Battle of Bennington, would his
name be amongst those, he says this
Justus Allen was a brother of our Grd [grand]
father Gideon Allen. I am the youngest [and]
only surviving child of Gideon's youngest son [and] 9th child. Since Gideons death
the homestead has been in possession of his
children & Grd [grand] children to the fith gen. and Gideon's important papers were not preserved or if they had been we would
have been saved much trouble
Trusting you will give me all the information
asked for you can [and] please tell
me where I may find what you cannot give
me. hoping to hear from you quite soon
am Yours Very Respectfully, M. P. Allen
121 East ave, Mt Clemens Mich
[in upper margin]
Weiss, Miss P. Alley
121 East Ave, Mt Clemens Mich
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[Stamp]:
U.S. PENSION OFFICE.
D SEP 7 1915
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[illegible]
512 West 156 st
New York City
Sept. 6. 1915

Mr E. C. Tieman
Acting Commissioner
Pensions
---
Dear Sir:-
In answer to
yours of Sept 3 - referring to the Rev War records of Gideon Allen - I find that Gideon Allen served in the Vermont Militia, Placed, May 27-- 1833
he being 85 years of age --
His Land Bounty rights
were assigned to sons-
George - Justus - Samuel.
His pension was granted [illegible] while he was living
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in Cayuga, County New York
I wish very much to learn where he was born
(date 1747) and where he was married.
Will you please let me know the records of Captain Parmalee Allen who served in the Vermont Continental Line
[illegible] was placed on the
Pension Roll Nov 29 -183-
aged 67 - [illegible] Mch. 4 - 1831.
He may have been the father of Gideon or more likely his brother.
Hoping this may secure me the information [illegible.]

I remain Very respectfully
(Mrs) Lorena A. Madden
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Mineral Bath resort.
Mt. Clemens Mich
121 East St.

APR 4 1905

Pension Department
Washington D.C.
Commissioner of Pensions

Dear Sir.
I was told by a grandson of Gideon Allen, who for sixteen years lived in Gideon's home that G.n A.n was a Revolutionary Soldier and drew a pension. Would you please look and see if his name is in the Pension Roll. Would you please tell me if there is any other mention made of his name. I was told during the Rev. War he
performed some services for the war or gov.t. If you find it among the War records or any thing else, and if he held any office. If not a commissioned officer he was a noncommissioned O. He was from Vermont.
He was my Grandfather.

Would you also please look and see if the name of Justus Allen is in the Pension list or war record. A cousin says he knows that Gideon A had a brother Justus who was in the battle of Bennington, as yet we have had only a partial family record of Gideons father & mother. If you find the name of Gideon Allens father, will you please give it me. Gideon was born in the seventeen forties. If you find mention of these services will you kindly tell me what they are, and what war record there is of him.
over
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My father Ezekiel Allen who was the son of Gideon Allen served in the 1812 War, and his name was down in the records of Washington: so it seems Gideon Allen's name would be among the war records there as a Revt'y soldier,
If I have asked unnecessary questions please
pardon. You will please find enclosed five cents in stamps for reply, hoping it will be soon
am Yours Truly
Marion P. Allen
121 East St. Mt Clemens
Mich

U.S.
PENSION OFFICE.
A
APR
3
1905