Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 25,171, for John P Suts, New York
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SERVICE
New York

Suts, John P. 
Nancy

NUMBER
W. 25,171

CONTENTS
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Albany 164.5 
Nancy Suts widow of John P. Suts who died on the 8 January 1836 Montgomery Co in the State of N. York who was a Private in the company commanded Captain Cook of the Regt. commanded Col. Klock in the N. York line for 15 months

Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 50 Dollars --- Cents, per annum, to commence on the 9 day of January, 1836. 

Certificate of Pension issued the 15 day of Dec. 1837 and sent to Hon. Jno. Edwards, H. R. 

Arrears to the 4th of Sep ‘37   82.54 
Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Mar ‘38   25.00
[total] $107.54 
{Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the 3} 
Recorded by D. Brown Clerk
Book A.  Vol. 2.  Page 117 


Let. to Hon. George Petrie March 24 ‘49
" Hon H. O. Alexander 1st June 1850
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24.176
New York
John P. Suts of Montgomery Co in the State of New York who was a Private in the Comp commanded by Captain Cook of the Regt. commanded by Col Klock in the New York line for 21 months and 14 days

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 71 Dollars 50 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. 

Certificate of Pension issued the 7th day of Nov. 1833 and sent G. D. Ferguson Palatine 

Arrears to the 4th of Sep. ‘33  $178.75 
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 M. ’34  35.75 
[total] $214.50 
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.} 
Recorded by Go. C. Stiles Clerk
Book E  Vol. 4  Page 87
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Jno. T. Suts 
13681 

45.131617.
p. 368 

Admitted 
Private 21. mo & 4 days
3 May ‘33
Pay £ 11.16.1
See Capt. Fox Pay Role
paid in 1776- £ 11.161- $29.51 - 0.3.0 
3 months 1777&1778 0.3.0 
Boat Service 0.9.0
[total 1.3.0
4 pr 66&67
John Suts   11
[total] 1.3.11

Geo D Furguson Palatine N.Y.
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13.081
Brief in the case of John P. Suts County of Montgomery in the State of New York
(Act 7th June, 1832.) 
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a Judge of Common Pleas
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? Yes – from bodily infirmity. Cannot attend open Court
3. How old is he? 73 years -
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 

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Period.   |   Duration of Service. Years, Months, Days.  |  Rank.  As a  |  Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Gen.  |
From 1776 until the close of the war  |  not stated  |  -  |  several names, but not so as to be correctly briefed  |
“Periods” not stated distinctly so as to be briefed  |    |    |    |
[END OF TABLE]

5. In what battles was he engaged? Brown’s battle & Willets
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? not stated
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary incidental evidence, or by the rolls? only traditionary evidence – one a clergyman -
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? 2 not attached according to the regulations
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned
[signed] E. Stephens Examining Clerk.
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } ss
On this 10th day of February 1849 before me Jas. Wilson a Justice of the peace in and for said County personally appeared Nancy Fox in said County who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by the Resolution of Congress of July 7th 1848 giving widows the full amount of pay there husbands Received that Nancy Sutes was the mother of this Declarant & the widow of John P Sutes who was a pensioner of the United States at the rate of $71. 40/100 per annum under the act of June 7 1832 that the widow Nancy Sutes Received a pension under the act of July 7th ‘38 at the rate of $50 per annum this declarant claims the same amount her mother was entitled to receive as received by her Husband aforesaid as well as the arrears of pension from John P Sutes aforesaid and the arrears due her under subsequent acts in suport of which she refers the pension department to the proofs on file and the Resolution of Congress aforesaid he further declares her mother Nancy Suts died on the 17th day of October 1839 & left her surviving the following children Nancy Fox the widow of Christopher Fox residing in St Johns Ville Montgomery County Elizabeth Hess wife of Daniel Hess Oppenheim Folten [Fulton] County Cathrine wife of John Radley now a widow Radley Turin Lewis County all over the age of twenty one years 
[signed] Nancy fox X her mark
Sworn & Subscribed before me Feby 10th 1849 

Montgomery County S.S. I James Wilson a Justice of the peace of the the town of St Johnsville in the County aforesaid do hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Nancy Fox and know her to be a person of good credit
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and Entitled to full belief all which I certify. Given under my hand at the town of St Johnsville aforesaid this 10th day of Feby 1849 
[signed] Jas. Wilson Justice of the peace St Johnsville 

Nancy Fox

Nancy Fox’s application for a pension In the case of the widow Nancy Suts
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State of New-York, 
Montgomery County Clerk's Office,  } ss.  I, CHESTER S. BRUMLEY, Clerk of said County do hereby certify that James Wilson Esqr whose name is subscribed to the annexed Certificate was at the date thereof a JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, of said County: And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of such JUSTICE, and verily believe the signature to the said Certificate is genuine. 
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said county the 16th day of February 184
[signed] C. S. Brumley Clerk
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Christopher Fox’ Affdt. in support of the pension application of Nancy Suits

Hon. Jno. Edwards HR
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } ss. Christopher Fox of the Town of Oppenheim, in the said County, being duly sworn says on his said oath, that he will be aged 58 years on the 27th day of October next - that he married Nancy, the daughter of John P. Suits & Nancy the wife of said Suits on the 15th Novr. 1801 - that this deponent shortly after his said marriage being desirous to know the precise age of his said wife, Enquired of his said father in Law the age of his said wife & was thereupon informed that the said Nancy this deponents’ wife was born on 29th day of November 1780. & then this deponent noted the age of his said wife in a small book kept by him at the time as a register of the births, marriages & deaths intended for this Deponents’ family, including himself & wife which was afterwards and copied into this Deponents family bible & that the following is a Copy of his wife’ birth noted therein, viz, "Nancy Fox wife of Christopher Fox was born the 29th day of November in the year of our Lord 1780" - that this Deponent further says that the said John P. Suits & Nancy his present widow had a daughter named Mary older than his this Deponents’ wife & that the said Mary died when about 17 or 18 years of age with whom this Deponent was well acquainted - & that he was informed by his father & mother in Law that the said Mary was about one year older than this Deponents’ wife, & so this Deponent always believed from his acquaintance with the said Mary - that this Deponent after diligent search & Enquiry has not been able to find any record of the birth, age or babtism
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of the said Mary - & for all this deponent can ascertain on such enquiry & search is the probability that the Revd. Daniel Gross in the war of the revolution babtized the said Mary & that his record of marriages & babtisms was destroyed by the Indians & Tories in the said war.
that this Deponents’ father in Law never kept a record of the births, marriages &c. of his family that this deponent ever learned or knew, & never kept an account book of his dealings with his neighbors that this deponent knew or heard of - But that his father in Law having a remarkably good memory, entirely depended upon it in his business transactions which were not extensive & as to the ages of his said family & further says that from what he learned from his said father & mother in Law the said Mary was born in the fall of the year 1779. & that they this Deponents father & mother in Law had been married in the fall of the year 1778 about one year before the birth of the said Mary - & this Deponent further said that it was an almost universal custom in those days among the Germans in this quarter to babtize their children at quite an early age as he always understood & perceived it to prevail & further says that the Revd. Danl. Gross did only reside about 2 miles from the place where as he has been informed the said John P. Suits & wife resided at the time of the birth of the said Mary - & further says that from the recent search made by him he has not found any records of marriages & babtisms during the war of Churches in the then neighborhood of the said John P. Suits & wife, & that he has been informed by the aged that there was no regular preacher except the
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Revd. Daniel Gross who preached in the churches of Stone Arabia & Fort Plain in the said war, but that they had fled to places of greater safety, & that the Revd. Mr. Gross when the church in which he preached & his records were kept was destroyed by the enemy, he also went away to New York City after the war of the revolution & that Mr. Gross preached at Fort Plain & not Stone Arabia as a regular preacher, & that his records were destroyed at Fort Plain - & further says not –
[signed] Christopher Fox
Sworn to & subscribed before me this 4th day of September 1837 
[signed] Bartholomew Schram Justice of the Peace – 

I hereby certify that the above named Christopher For is a credible person –
In witness whereof I hereto set my hand this 4th day of Sept 1837 
[signed] Bartholomen Schram J. Peace 

N.B. The magistrate's signature is fully authenticated as will be seen by other affidavits filed in the same case
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Nancy Suts Surrogates Certificate
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State New York 
Montgomery County Surrogates Court ss
I Samuel Belding Jr County Judge of said County, certify that at a Surrogate Court held in & for said County at the Court House in Fonda on the 6th day of February 1849, the most satisfactory evidence was adduced to said Court to prove that John P Suts departed this life at Euphrata [Ephrata] in the County of Fulton & State of New York in the ninth of January 1836 leaving Nancy Suts his widow him surviving, & that the said John P Suts was a pensioner of the United States at the time of his death under the act of June 7th 1832 at the rate of seventy one dollars & fifty cents per annum; and that said Nancy Suts, widow as aforesaid died on the 17th day of October 1839, the she left her surviving the following named children viz. Elizabeth wife of Daniel Hess, Nancy Fox  Catherine Radly who are all of full age & still living; and that the said Nancy Suts was at the time of her decease or pensioner of the United States under the act of July 4th 1836 and received a stipend of Fifty dollars per annum. 
In witness whereof I have hereunto affixed the seal of the Surrogate Court of the County of Montgomery aforesaid & my official signature at Fonda the 6th day of February 1849 
[signed] S. Belding Jr County Judge
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N196
Peter P. Suits affdt. in the case of Nancy Suits widow of late John P. Suits
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Jefferson County 
State of New York } ss
Peter P. Suts of Alexandria being duly sworn doth depose and say that John P. Suts late of Montgomery County deceased was a brother of this deponent that the said John P. Suts was married to Nancy Nellis in the fall of the year of 1778 that the Rev. Daniel Gross married the said John P. Suts to the said Nancy Nellis as this deponent at the time was informed and believes. This deponent further says that he was not present at the marriage, but was at home in Palentine [Palatine] Montgomery County aforesaid that the family of the said Nancy Nellis resided about three miles distant & he this deponent saw his family fit out and go to the marriage and soon after the marriage his said Brother John P. Suts removed to the family of the said Nellis and lived there in the same family with his wife. This deponent further says that he knows the said John P. Suts served in the war of the Revolution and that he knows that his said Brother John P. Suts could play on the fife 
[signed] Peter P Suts 
Subscribed & Sworn this 6 day of July 1837 before me and I certify that Peter P. Suts the above named deponent is a credible person 
[signed] Jason Clark Justice of the Peace 

State of New York
Jefferson County } ss. I, Peleg Burchard Clerk of the said County of Jefferson & of the Court of Com. Pleas in & for said County do hereby certify that Jason Clark before whom the above affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of same one of the Justices of the peace in & for said County & that I am acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe his name subscribed to said affdt. as the office before whom same was taken to be his own proper hand writing & signature 
In testimony whereof I hereto put my hand & affix the seal of said County this 26 day of July A.D. 1837
[signed] P. Burchard Clerk
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Elizabeth Suits Affdt. in the pension case of Nancy Suits widow of John P. Suits
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } S.S. Elizabeth Suits of the Town of Johnstown in said County, being sworn says that she is the widow of Peter Suits, the father of John P. Suits - that she is the step mother of said John P. Suits - & was married to the father of said John P. Suits in the war of the revolution - that she well recollects that the said John P. Suits & Nancy his widow lived together & regarded as man & wife before her marriage with the said Peter Suits - that she recollects that the oldest child of said John P. Suits & Nancy was named Mary who is dead & the next named Nancy the wife of Mr. Christopher Fox - & that they had other children together - that the said Nancy wife of said Fox was Babtised in the war of the revolution in the house of said Peter Suits at Stone - Arabia - & that this Deponent & her said husband Peter Suits stood as sponsers at said babtism, which was performed at the said Peter Suits by a minister of the Gospel but whose name she cannot positively state & rather thinks by the Revd. Mr. Ritzie who preached but a short time at said place in said war - & further says not –
[signed] Elizabeth Suits  X her mark
Sworn to this Seventh day of October 1837 before me & I certify that said Elizabeth Suits is known to me & is credible - that she does not write her name but made her her mark – 
[signed] Henry M Livingston J. P.
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State of New York
Montgomery County } S.S.  I George D. Ferguson, Clerk of the Court of Common pleas in & for said County do hereby Certify that Henry M. Livingston, before whom the within affidavit purports to have been sworn to & who signed the certificate of credibility of the within Elizabeth Suits, was at the time same purports to have been sworn to & signed, a Justice of the peace in & for said County - that I am acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe his name subscribed to the same to be in his own hand writing - In testimony whereof I hereto this 12 day of October 1837 put my hand & affix the seal of said County –
[signed] Geo. D. Ferguson Clk 
For R. Clenshney Dep Clk
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State of New York 
County of Montgomery } ss.
On this 4th day of January 1837 personally appeared before me Honorable David F. Sacia one of the Judges of the Court of Common pleas in & for said County aforesaid being a court of Record & of the degree of Counsellor at Law in the Supreme Court of said State, Nancy Suts a resident in the Town of Oppenheim, in the said County & State aforesaid, who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed 4th July 1836. that she knows of no record of her age ever having been made but from what she always understood & believed she was born sometime in the year 1759, the day & month she does not recollect & is now aged seventy five years or thereabouts according to her best information & belief - that she is the widow of John P. Suts who was in the war of the revolution a soldier in the militia of the then County of Tryon now County of Montgomery aforesaid as she always understood & believed, but in what Company & Regt. or the names of his officers under whom he served she cannot state from her own knowledge - that she often heard the said John P. Suts & others state that he the said John P Suts before her intermarriage with the said John P. Suts as hereafter stated had served his Country in the said war but she cannot on account of her age & consequent loss of memory state the particulars of those services but she recollects that at her intermarriage with the said John P. Suts he served his Country & that at one time during the said war & after their said marriage they fled together to a Fort commonly called “Stone Arabia Fort” in the Town of Palatine in the said County - & she thinks this was time that Sir John Johnson with his forces burned part of Stone Arabia in said Town of Palatine being as she is told & believes, in the fall of 1780 & that at the time last mentioned he the said John P. Suts did duty as a soldier at the said Fort as well as other times after her intermarriage with the said John P. Suts but the particulars thereof she cannot state & relies as evidence of his services on the affidavits hereto annexed for the particulars of said services & as well on what she has as above generally stated as upon the declaration of the said John P. Suts on file as supposed in the Pension office Depart. together with the proof thereto belonging to which the said John P. Suts was allowed a pensions - that she has no documentary evidence of the service of the said John P. Suts - & knows of none, unless his pension papers aforesaid on file be considered as such - that the said John P. Suts her late husband was a pensioner at the time of his death - that the said John P. Suts could play on the fife - & she further declares that she was married to the said John P. Suts in the fall of the year 1778. the particular day or month she does not recollect, but remembers that she was about 19 years of age at the time - that she has
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or knows of no record of her said marriage with the said John P. Suts with whom she lived from the time of her said marriage to the period of his death - that the said John P Suts died in the month of January 1836, the day she cannot recollect, but her Son in Law Mr. Christopher Fox has informed her that he noted the day & that it was on the 8th day of January 1836 that her said husband died & which she believes - that she has remained a widow ever since that period as will more fully appear by a reference to the proof hereto annexed - that her memory is quite poor & her bodily infirmities such that she has been for some time past & still is mostly confined to her room & bed & unable to attend Court to make this her declaration. that since her said marriage as aforesaid she & her said husband until his decease resided altogether in the County aforesaid & not elsewhere - & says that she has received as the widow the pension money in arrear of her said husband to the time of his said decease as is provided by Law in such cases -that her said husband resided in the said Town of Oppenheim when he made his said declaration for a pension which is on file in the pension office Department as supposed -  that she does not recollect of any person living who attended her wedding when she was married to the said John P Suts as aforesaid –
[signed] Nancy Suts X her mark
Sworn to this 4th day of January A.D. 1837- before me 
[signed] D. F. Sacia Judge of Court of Common pleas of the County of Montgomery of the degree of Counsellor in the Supreme Court of the State of New York 

State of New York 
Montgomery County } ss. I the subscriber a Judge of the Court of Common pleas in & for said County certify further that the said Nancy Suts Widow of the said John P. Suts (both above named) was sworn by me to the truth of the above declaration & that her statement above made is in my opinion entitled to full credit - & further certify that on account of her age & bodily infirmities she is in my opinion unable to attend Court to make her declaration above stated - & that she is a credible person. In witness whereof I do hereto this 4th day of January 1837, put my hand --- 
And that the words "being a court of Record”, were interlined before execution - and that the above applicant made her mark because she could not write – 
[signed] D. F. Sacia Judge of the court of Common pleas of the County of Montgomery counseller &c
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State of New York 
Montgomery County }
SS. Peter Fox of the Town of Palatine in the said County where he was born & has always resided being duly sworn says that he was a soldier in the war of the revolution in the company commanded by Capt. Christopher W. Fox for some time & afterwards by Capt. Henry Miller in the Reg. commanded by Col. Jacob Klock - that John P. Suts served in the same Company with this deponent, & acted as a fifer in said Company for some time - that he was acquainted with said Suts before the war of the revolution, during said war & ever since until the time of the decease of the said John P. Suts - that they often served together, the particulars of which he cannot state, & further says that the brothers of this deponent named Wm W. Fox & Christopher W. Fox Junr. served in same Company in said war - that they both have recd. pensions & are now deceased but that previous to their deaths he often heard them say that the said John P. Suts was engaged in the said Company in this battle at Johnstown when Walter Butler was Killed - that this Deponent has not in the said battle but his said brothers were as they always told him, & which he believes - that he is acquainted with Nancy the widow of said John P. Suts, & that they said John P. & Nancy lived together & were reputed man & wife & has never heard a doubt expressed as to their having been lawfully married - that they said John P. Suts & Nancy were married together, as he believes, when they were quite Young, - that the said Suts served as he understood & believed some time in said war as a boatman - that the said Suts lately died as he has understood & believes - & that said Nancy still remains his widow according to his information & belief - that his brother the said Christopher W. Fox Jr in his life, now deceased & others also have told him this deponent that he said Christopher W. Fox Jr. his brothers & said John P. Suts had enlisted as boatmen & served together as boatmen & he thinks, but is not certain that Samuel Gray commanded the boatmen, among whom they served, in said war - & further says that he has often heard that the said John P. Suts
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was enlisted as a ranger in the company whereof one Christian Getman was Capt., but how long & when he cannot state –
[signed] Peter Fox
Sworn to this 29th day of October A.D. 1836 before me 
[signed] Peter Waggoner Justice 

I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Peter Fox who is reputed to have been a soldier of the war of the revolution & now receiving a pension - & certify that he is reputable & credible - & that his statement above sworn to by him before me is entitled to full credit & belief. 
In witness whereof share hereto this 29th day of October 1836 Set my Hand – 
[signed] Peter Waggoner Justice
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } SS. Christopher Fox of the Town of Oppenheim in the said County being duly sworn say that he is the son in law of Nancy widow of John P. Suts having married the daughter of said Nancy & said John P. Suts - that he was married to their said daughter his present wife on the 15 day of Novr. AD. 1801. - that his said wife was born 29th November 1780 according to the information given him (& which he believes) by the said John P. Suts in his life time, now deceased & which fact he noted in his Bible - & that he always understood from the said John P. Suts & Nancy his present widow that they had a daughter named Mary previously to his said wife & about a year older than his said wife - & that he always understood from the said John P. Suts & his present widow Nancy that they had been married about one year before the birth of the said Mary, & two years before the birth of his said wife - & that the said Nancy the widow of said John P. Suts was about 19 years of age when she & the said John P. Suts intermarried according to the information they always gave him this deponent - that the said John P. Suts & the said Nancy were always reputed man & wife & never heard that fact disputed or doubted & he has no doubt of the fact that they were lawfully married - that this Deponents father in Law with the said Nancy always, since his acquaintance with them, which is about 47 years resides in the Towns of Palatine & Oppenheim in the said County according to his recollection - that the said John P. Suts died on the 8th day of January 1836 in the Town of Ephratah in said County, & was at the time a pensioner of the United States - that he often heard the said John P. Suts say that he served his country as a private in the war of the revolution & has also heard others state the same & that he said John P. Suts was a soldier serving his Country at the time the Battle of Johnstown was had in the war of the revolution, which was at the time that Walter Butler was killed according to the information he always received from the said John P. Suts in his life time - & further says that the said Nancy has lived & still does with him this deponent since the death of said John P. Suts her late husband. & that she has ever since remained a widow - that the said Nancy is infirm in body & mind & memory - & further says not –
[signed] Christopher Fox
Sworn to this 4th day of January A.D. 1837. Before me
[signed] D. F. Sacia Judge of Montgomery court of common pleas counsellor &c
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } SS.  I the subscriber a Judge of the Court of Common pleas in for said County do hereby certify that I am acquainted with the within named Christopher Fox who has sworn by me to the truth of the facts stated in his within affidavit - & that he is a person of fair reputation & credible & that his statement is entitled to full credit - In Witness whereof I hereto this 4th day January 1837. put my hand – 
[signed] D. F. Sacia Judge of the court of common pleas of the County of Montgomery Counsellor &c
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } SS.  Peter C. Fox of the Town of Palatine in the said County, being duly sworn says that he will be 65 years of age this tenth day of January next - that he has always resided in the said Town of Palatine & elsewhere, & that he became acquainted with John P. Suts now deceased in the war of the revolution - that he saw the said John P. Suts in said war serving as a private in the Fort at Stone Arabia called Fort Paris or more commonly Stone Arabia Fort - & that said Suts acted as a Fifer - that he saw him thus serving both before & after the Battle between Col. John Brown & his force, & the forces commanded by Sir John Johnson in which Battle the gallant Col. Brown fell - that said Suts served thus in the said Fort, & that he this deponent was at the time a mere boy & was also in the said Fort & well recollects the facts above stated - & that he was acquainted with & knew the said John P. Suts ever since, & that said Suts has, he thinks ever since resided in the Towns of Palatine & Oppenheim - & was the father in Law of Mr. Christopher Fox of the Town of Oppenheim - that the said John P. Suts & Nancy his wife now the widow of said John P. Suts, lived together as Man & wife in the said war, & were reputed such thus & ever since & never heard a doubt suggested on that point & believes that they were married in the said war - that the said Nancy survives the said John P. her late husband - & that the said John P. Suts died as is reputed & believed, during the past winter - & that he has been & is well acquainted with the widow of the said John P. Suts, & that she still remains a widow he believes & that said Suts was a pensioner at time of his death –
[signed] Peter C Fox
Sworn to this 2nd day of November 1836. before me 
[signed] Peter Waggoner Justice
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State of New York
Montgomery County } SS. I the subscriber a Justice of the peace in & for said County do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with the within named Peter C. Fox who was sworn by me to the truth of the facts within stated - & certify that he is reputable & a credible person – 
In witness whereof I hereto put my hand this 2nd day of November 1836 
[signed] Peter Waggoner Justice

State of New York 
Montgomery County S.S. I George D. Ferguson - Clerk of the said County & of the Court of Common Pleas of said County being a Court of record do certify that the Hon David F Sacia before whom the within affidavits of Nancy Suts & Christopher Fox purport to have been sworn to, was at the date same purport to have been sworn to a Judge of the said Court of Common pleas of said County Counsellor &c as well as at the time said certificates purporting to have been separately taken were signed as same purport – that I am well acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe his name subscribed to said affdts. & certificates to be his own proper signatures - & also certify that Peter Waggoner before whom the within affidavit of Peter Fox & of Peter C. Fox purport to have been Sworn to, & certificates thereunder written purport to have been signed by him was at the date of same a Justice of the peace in & for said County - that I am acquainted with the hand writing & verily believe his name subscribed to the same to be his genuine signature & hand writing - & that full credit is due to the acts of the said Judge & Justice in the premises - In witness whereof I hereto this 16th day of January 1837 put my hand & affix the seal of my Office & of said County 
[signed] Geo: D. Ferguson

V1148
Nancy Suts (widow of John P. Suts) application for a Pension
Admitted
Private 15 mo & four days –

Hon Jno Edwards
H. Reps
Hon M. J. Bovee HR
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REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION.  3-525 
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, 
BUREAU OF PENSIONS. 
Washington, D. C., 19 
W25171
In reply to your request of ___ received ___ for a statement of the military history of John P. Suts a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. 

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DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  |   LENGTH OF SERVICE.   |   RANK.   |  OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN.   |   COLONEL.   |   STATE.  |
May 1775  |  & served at various times until end of 1781 amounting to 2 yrs. 8 mos. 23 das  |  Fifer  |  Christopher W. Fox  |  Cox  |  N.Y  |
  |    |    |  Christian Getman  |  Gansevort  |    |
  |    |    |  Keyser  |  Jacob Klock  |    |
  |    |    |  Henry Miller  |  Waggoner  |    |
  |    |    |  Christian Nellis  |  Willett  |    |
  |    |    |  Samuel Gray  |  Dubois  |    |
[END TABLE]

Battles engaged in, Stone Arabia, Landmans, Johnstown
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Palatine Tryon Co N.Y.
Date of application for pension, Sept. 6, 1832. His claim was al.
Residence at date of application, Oppenheim Montgomery Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, 73 yrs. 9 mos. 13 days. Born in Palatine, N.Y. son of Peter
Remarks: Sol. married in Fall of 1778, Nancy Nellis aged 19 yrs. He d. at Ephratah N.Y. Jan. 8, 1836. She was al. pen. On her ap. ex Jan 4, 1837 while living in Oppenheim N.Y. & she d. Oct. 17, 1839 – Children: a son name not stated, Mary born 1779. Nancy b. Nov. 29, 1780 mar. Christopher Fox Nov 15 1801 – Elizabeth mar Daniel Hess. Catherine mar John Radly

Respectfully, 
Commissioner.

6-2856
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2¢ stamp
2 ct stamp enclosed
Oswego, Ill. 
Feb. 6, 1920. 
Mr. G. W. Saltzgaber 
Washington D.C.   Rev. Sec. CSW
Dear Sir, 
Have you any record of a pension being given to John Suits, a fifer in Col. Klocks Tryon Co. Regiment in the Revolutionary War? 
In the records I have, the name is spelled Suits - Sutz and Suts. 
His wife was Sophia Nellis they had a daughter Nancy 
He received a back pension. 
Please let me know if you have such a record and then I will send the necessary money for the same.
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There has been a question as to the certainity of this man's being John, but the family have it recorded so. 
Yours truly, 
Mary C. Cutter, 
Oswego, Illinois

[stamp]
U.S. Pension Office Feb 10 1920
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Let to Hon M. G. Bovee
25 Feb 1837.
New York
Nancy Suts
Widow of 
John P. Suts 
Suspd see letter to John Nellis, May 22. 1837 
Same June 20 1837
same Aug 16 1837
J. Snell, Sept. 2d 1837
To Hon. John Edwards 15 Sep ‘37

Let to Secy of War Oct. 30, 1837
Let to Secy of War Nov. 21, 1837
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Revy WIDOW, &c. 
File No. 25.171 
Nancy Suts 
wid of 
John P. Suts 
Priv. Rev. War 
Act: July 4th 1836. 
Index: -- Vol. L, Page 255 
{Arrangement of 1870.}
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1905 Nov 7 - History to Miss Ruth Whiter   MBN
1920, Feb. 24. Hist. to Mary C. Cutter   AW.
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Pension Office 
March 24th 1849 
Sir,
I have the honor to inform you that the application for an increase in the Case of Nancy Sutz, deceased, widow of John P. Sutz, has been examined and disallowed. 
The Joint Resolution of the 1st July 1848, which directs that the widow shall receive the same that her husband was allowed, applies to those cases only where the widow was living at the date of the passage of said Resolution. Mrs Sutz having died long previous to that date she has no claim to its provisions 
I have the honor to be 
Sir, very respectfully 
Your Obt Sert. 
[signed] J L Edwards 

Hon. George Petrie 
Member of Congress
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I am informed that I have been employed to prosecute the claim of Jno Vandenburg of Newyork, my authority is with these papers I am told.
[signed] J. Godwin
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J. Godwin 
cant you look into within case. Perhaps aside from the resolution some increase may be obtained. Please examine 
Yours 
[signed] G. F. Yates 
Schenectada NY
Jany 22 1852

Ex by Col Godwin
Feb 3d 52
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Payment to be made at Albany by T. W. Olcott Esqr Agent for paying Pensioners, in the Agency of Albany 

Recorded in the Pension Office, in Book A. Vol. 2 Page 117 by D. Brown Clerk.
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Nancy Suts'
pension certificate
$50. a year.
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WAR DEPARTMENT.
REVOLUTIONARY CLAIM. 
I certify that in conformity with the 3d section of the law of the United States, of the 4th July, 1836 Nancy Suts of the State of New York widow of John P. Suts who was a Private in the War of the Revolution 
is entitled to receive Fifty dollars per annum, during the time she may remain unmarried, commencing on the ninth of January 1836, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March and 4th of September. 
Given at the War Office of the United States, this fifteenth day of December one thousand eight hundred and thirty seven 
[signed] J. R. Poinsett Secretary of War.

Examined and Countersigned.} [signed] Geo. Wm. Crump 
acting Commissioner of Pensions.
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St Johnsville NY
Apl. 12.
Free

Hon. J. R. Poinsett 
Secretary of War 
Washington City. 
(Pension Office Depart.)

Apl 17
NY 
act 1836
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Palatine Montgomery Co N.Y. 
April 10th 1837. 
Sir,
I some considerable time since sent the pension application of Mrs Nancy Suts, the widow of the late John P. Suts who was at the time of his death a pensioner as a soldier of the revolution. I did not know until today the result of her application. My address I must have omitted sending you when I sent her papers, for today Jacob Snell Esq. handed me a Letter from the pension office Depart. on the subject of her claim, stating that her papers had been placed on file in the ground "that this applicant has not mentioned by whom she was married nor is there any satisfactory Evidence in regard to the date thereof. If John Suts described in the pay rolls of Capt. Fox & John P. Suts, are one & the same individual the reason why the name has heen changed should be satisfactorily explained" Mr. Snell informs me today that he has written to the Depart. which will satisfy he thinks the Depart. The John P. Suts is the same person whose pension papers I am told by Mr. Snell were made out by him & his pension procured by Mr. Snell for him, but by what name Mr. Snell is not positive, but thinks in the name of John P. Suts who was the only individual of that name or of John Suts who served in Capt. Foxe’s Company according to Mr Snell’ statement to me - I am fearful that from her age & infirmity she cannot recollect the date of her marriage nor by whom married, unless it should occur to her memory. She is illiterate, poor in health & memory & never had a record & knows of none being made &c. At present I do not know what further can be done. perhaps Mr. Snell's statement will be Satisfactory to the Depart. which he says
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he has sent on.  If not let me know what more is required – 
Yours &c.
[signed] John Nellis
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Free 
Hon. John Edwards 
Rep in Congress 
Washington City 

Palatine NY Sept 18th 

Mr. Nellise
Leter
September 20
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Palatine Sept 16th 1837. 
Dear Sir.
I took the liberty a few days since of enclosing to you an affidavit in the pension case of Mrs Nancy Suits widow of the late John P. Suits, to lay before the pension office Department. As soon as you learn the result, please to apprise me of it. Direct your communications to me to the Palatine P. Office. 
The widow of the late James Wilson supposes herself entitled to a pension on account of the revolutionary services of her said husband who served all his time for which she claims a pension in the Company I think of Capt. Jacob Diefendorff, Col. Samuel Clyde or in Cox’ Regt. To save a great deal of trouble to her as well as to the Department I have thought it advisable to ascertain from the rolls of said Jacob Diefendorffs’ Company probably on file in the pension office Department, the length of time her husband James Wilson, served in said Company. Will you be good enough to present this letter to the Department & ascertain whether her husband served 6 months or how long he served or is credited on the rolls. no application is intended to be made if it appears that he served less than 6 months. 
Yours respectfully 
[signed] John Nellis 

P.S.
I saw yesterday at one general Training some of the members of your family - & learned that they & the rest of your family were enjoying their usual health.  JN
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St Johnsville 
Sept 6th 

Hon. John Edwards 
Rep in Congress 
Washington City 

Hon. John Edwards 
H. R.

John Nellis Leter
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Palatine Sept 5th, 1837. 
Dear Sir. 
I take the liberty to trouble you with the enclosed affidavit of Mr. Christopher Fox, to be delivered to the pension Commissioner in support of the pension application of Mrs. Nancy Suits widow of the late John P. Suits. I presume that you were acquainted with Mr,, & perhaps, Mrs. Suits, & may be enabled to satisfy the Department, perhaps, that she is entitled to a pension. The only difficulty in the case is to prove the exact day of the marriage. The records of Revd. Danl. Gross, who married Mrs. Suits, were destroyed in the war of the revolution by the Indians & Tories & no person who attended her wedding (& there were but few) is living to testify in her behalf. & no record of the babtism of her oldest children can be found & the probability is that Rev. Mr. Gross who resided in the neighborhood of Mrs. Suits in the war & who had married her babtised her oldest children & that his records, as above stated, were destroyed; & of course as stated in Enclosed affdt. no record could be found. It is supposed that abundance of other evidence has been furnished the Department to establish the fact of her marriage, but the precise day cannot be ascertained any nearer than that it was in the fall of the year 1778. If the fact of her marriage is proven sufficiently, the precise day it took place cannot, I think be material. She was married in the fall of 1778 - & if her late husband served after that fall, then she is entitled to a pension. Now, I am told that her husband did duty afterwards & as late as Augt. 1781 when the battle at Johnstown was had in which battle her husband was engaged, which was if true some three years after her marriage. If so, it seems to be the precise day of her marriage will be found immaterial provided she was married in the fall of 1778 or before the last service rendered by her late husband. Will you call the attention of the Department to this case & devote a little time that you conveniently can to a review of the evidence furnished & it seems to me that a pension will be granted to her unless there should be something in the way of which I am not advised. I went with Mr Fox & we searched diligently the church records & could not find anything relative to her case, & no doubt the Revd. Gross married her & babtised her oldest children, whose records were destroyed. let me hear from you as soon as convenient. We are all well – I have no doubt you will have a very interesting session. I should be pleased to hear from you occasionally
Yours truly 
[signed] John Nellis.
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In – ab

Hon J. R. Poinsett 
Sec. of War 
(pension office Depart) 
Washington City

Hon. Jno. Edwards HR
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Palatine Mont. Co. N.Y. 
Decr. 7. 1837. 
D. Sir.
Yours (from the Hon. Jno. L. Edwards Pension Commissr.) has been recd., in which it is stated that I was mistaken in supposing that our militia rolls should only such service as had been rendered in the embodies Regt. It is probably so - for I cannot say to the Contrary. You will therefore send me the certificate of pension for Mrs. Nancy Suits widow of the late John P. Suits for such amt. of pension she may entitled to –
Yours respectfully 
[signed] John Nellis 

P.S. You will if you please hand the Certificate to Hon. Jno. Edwards Rep. in Congress - who will deliver you this -
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St. Johnsville 
May 16 
Free 
Hon. R. Poinsett 
Secretary of War 
Washington City 

Nr 161  V
20 May 1837
Pension office
Refer for [illegible]
J.R.P.
Nancy Suts
Suspd 36
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Palatine, Mont. Co. N.Y. May 16. 1837 
Dr. Sir.
I wrote several Letters to the Depart. enquiring as to the Pension application of Nancy Suits the widow of the late John P. Suits, a soldier of the revolution. The widow is & has been sick & stands in need of assistance, if entitled to it. Cannot her business receive immediate attention? her husband was a pensioner at the time, & can there be any real difficulty - I should suppose not. But there must be something the matter & if so please let me know soon as can be. 
Yours respectfully 
[signed] John Nellis.
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No 175.
19 June 1837
Pension office
Luce
Im attention

Fonda N.Y.
June 15

Free 
Hon. J. R. Poinsett 
Secretary of War 
Washington City
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Palatine Montgomery Co. N.Y. 
June 13. 1837. 
Sir.
Enclosed is an affidt. of Jacob Snell Esq in support of the Pension application of Nancy Suts, the widow of John P. Suts - It will, as supposed, supply the defects on account of which her papers were placed on file 
Yours respectfully 
[signed] John Nellis
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Conradt Lepper  N 196 
Affdt. in the case of Mrs Nancy Suits’ application for a pension.
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State of New York 
Montgomery County. } S.S. Conradt Lepper of said County being duly Sworn, says that he was last June aged 66 years & that he has from his youth been acquainted with John P. Suts late of the Town of Oppenheim - that he used to play on the fife - that he saw said John P. Suts doing duty as a fifer in the war of the Revolution at Stone Arabia Fort - that at the time the present widow named Nancy of said John P. Suts was also in the said Fort & they the said Suts & wife were regarded & universally reputed at the time as having married together & lived together as man & wife - & have so lived together ever since as man & wife & always have been so considered & reputed - that no doubt has ever been Entertained or expressed by any one to his knowledge, to the contrary - that they [been?] had quite a number of Children the fruits of their marriage, three of whom are still living & two decd - that he this deponent has since the war been on intimate terms with said John P. Suts - that about three years ago he the said John P. Suts in a conversation with this deponent told him this Deponent that he said John P. Suts had been married to said Nancy by the Rev. Mr. Gross - that after the said Marriage Ceremony had been performed, he the said John P. Suts paid three dollars to Revd. Mr. Gross for his services that the wife of Mr. Gross was present & observed to her husband that he had taken too much, & ought to give some of it back - that the Revd. Mr. Gross replied to his wife’s remarks, that he Mr. John P. Suats did not care for the money - but thought more of his young wife (the said Nancy) than of the money - & that when this Deponent visited them said Suts & wife & at other times the said John P, Suts would call her said Nancy his wife - that the said Nancy the widow of said John P. Suts is quite infirm in mind & body & memory & is mostly confined to her bed by reason of her bodily infirmities. & further says that the Revd. Mr. Gross’ name was Daniel he believes 
[signed] Conrad Lepper
Sworn to this 13th day of July A.D. 1837 before me 
B. Schram Justice of the Peace

Montgomery County. SS. I hereby certify that the above named Conrad Lepper was sworn by me of the truth of the above - & that I am acquainted with him, & certify that he is credible - In witness whereof I hereto set my hand this 13th day of July 1837 – 
[signed] B. Schram, Justice
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } SS. I the subscribed do hereby certify that I am an acting Magistrate of said County in the Town of Oppenheim in said Co. & that I am acquainted for more than thirty years previous to the death of John P. Suits - & since with the widow of said John P. Suits named Nancy - that as long as I have been acquainted with them, they lived together as man & wife & were so universally considered during said period & had a number of children - & never heard a doubt expressed or insinuated to the contrary during said time, nor at any other time - that said John P. Suits is dead - that his present widow Nancy is still living within two miles from me - & is quite aged & infirm – In witness whereof have hereto this 13th July 1837 set my hand 
[signed] B. Schram
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Jacob Snell’ affdt. relative to the pension application of Nancy Suits, the widow of John P. Suits 

N. 175
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } SS. Jacob Snell of Palatine in said County being sworn says, that he was well acquainted with John P. Suits who was a fifer in the war the revolution & did duty in said war, that he made out the papers of said Suits on which a pension was allowed him - that the reason why said Suits wrote his name John P. Suits is that the father of said Suits was known by the name of Peter Suits who was a sergeant in Capt. Christopher W. Fox Company - that said John P. Suits was the only fifer of the name of Suits to his knowledge in said war & the only one of the name of Suits who had the Christian name of Jno. who served in Capt. Christopher W. Fox’ Company & that said Suits also served in Capt. Christian Getman’ Company of rangers - that he has no doubt that said Suits & Nancy his present widow were lawfully married in said war - that they lived together as man & wife & had children & were universally reputed man & wife always - & no doubt has ever been entertained on that point - that he has searched the Church record of Stonearabia Church & not found therein their said Suits & wife in the Dutch reformed Church Kept at said place - & has also searched the records of the Revd. Danl. Gross of the Church at Fort Plain but not found therein their marriage - that said John P. Suits & his present widow lived within about two miles from said Church at Stonarabia about the time of their reputed marriage - & that the records kept in the Lutheran Church at said place (Stonearabia) in said war cannot be found - & records kept in said war by the Rev. Danl. Gross were destroyed in said war as is supposed by the hostile Indians & Tories, which were kept at Fort Plain Church & destroyed in 1780, & that were only two Churches at Stonearabia in said war & one at Fort Plain the records of which are those mentioned -
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& that the Fort Plain Church was short of two miles from the residences of the widow (who is applying for a pension as I am informed & believe) at the time of their marriage – that I have known them the said Jno. P. Suits & his present widow from my youth, for about sixty five years  - that I am as nearly seventy six years - that this Deponent served in same Company with said John P. Suits in the war - & that this deponent has no doubt that said John P. Suits & Nancy his present widow were lawfully married together in the war of the revolution that there was another person by the name of John Suits Jun who served under Capt Dillenback (who was however never commissioned as Capt. in his lifetime) & after that said John Suits Jun served in the Company of Capt. [Sefanus?] Cook to the end of the war - & that said John Suits Jun never belonged to Capt. Fox’ Company or in Capt. Getman’ Company & there was also a person by the name of John Suits who was not enrolled in the said war - & did no duty to my knowlede on account of his age - & that said John P. Suits belonged to the Dutch reformed Church at stonarabia, & said Nancy his present widow to the Lutheran Church of said place –
[signed] Jacob Snell
Subscribed & sworn to this 5th day of June 1837 before me 
[signed] Stephen Yates Commissioner of Deeds & to take affidavits

Montgomery County. SS. I hereby certify that Jacob Snell who signed the above is known to me -  & was sworn by me to the above & is a credible person - & that "the” “Fort plain” "their Marriage" "Fort Plain Church” “Stonearabia” “& one at Fort Plain” on opposite side & above words "five" “as Capt” all interlined - & within & above erasures made - In Witness whereof I have hereto set my hand this 5th day of June 1837. and also on the other page was interlined “made after the war” interlined
[signed] Stephen Yates
Commissioner of Deeds
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } SS.  I, George D. Ferguson, Clerk the Court of Common Pleas in & for said County, (which said Court is a Court of record) do hereby certify that Stephen Yates before whom the annexed affidavit purports to have been sworn to & who signed the certificate of credibility under the said affidavit, was at the date  of same, a commissioner to take affidavits & the acknowledgement of Deeds &c in & for said County - that I am acquainted with his hand writing, & verily believe his name subscribed to said affidavit as the officer before whom same was sworn to & to said certificate, to be his own proper signature - In testimony whereof I have hereto this 13th day of June A.D. 1837 put was hand & affixed the seal of said County & of said Court 
[signed] Geo. D. Ferguson Clk 
for R. H Cushney Dep Clk
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Free 
Palatine N.Y. 
Aug 7 

N196
Aug 12, 1837.
Pension office
N.Y. 
addl aff
Act 1836. 
Free 

Hon. J. R. Poinsett 
Secretary of War 
Washington City
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Palatine Montgomery Co. N.Y.
August 3d 1837 
Dear Sir
Enclosed are affidavits in support of the application for a pension of Nancy Suits widow of the late John P. Suits. The Affidt. taken before B. Schram Esq is not authenticated, but there are a number of affdts. in same case which were taken before him & are on file & the genuineness of his signature &c to the Enclosed affdt. taken before him can be readily ascertained by a comparison with those signatures &c of his duly authenticated & on file. The records of the Revd. Daniel Gross who married Mrs. Suits were burned by the enemy in the war of the revolution at is well known here & as stated in the affdt. of Jacob Snell Esq. on file - & none of those who actually attended the wedding are now living on account of the great length of time that has elapsed - & if living even they could not from memory give the precise day of her marriage - & if they did would hardly be called to credit. The enclosed affdt. of P. P. Suits must, I apprehend, satisfy the Depart. that Mrs. Suits was married to the late John P. Suits. If it is insisted upon that she must from her marriage by the record of her marriage or by some one who actually attended her wedding, I shall despair of her being able to entitle herself to the benefit of the act of Congress, however meritorious her application. 
Yours Respectf.y
[signed] John Nellis
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Feby 20/[49?]
Nancy Suts widow of John P Suts 
Application for arrears of pension Due Widow &c 

Allns

For Commission of Pensions 
Washington D.C. 

Geo. Petrie 
H of Reps
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Nancy Suts Widow of John P Suts } This Claim is asserted in behalf of the widow to recover the difference Between the amount of the stipend her husband and she recived. His pension was at the rate of $70.50 per annum, Hers at the rate of $50 pr annum Difference $21.50 
The Last payment he received was on the 4th September 1835 consequently there is a Ballance due her from the 4th Sept 1835 to the 9th Jany 1836 as well as from the day of his death to the day of her death which took place on the 17th October 1839. 
Certificate of Court [illegible] also at pension warrant of the widow 
[signed] John A Van Horne
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Wyand Lepper’ affdt. in the pension case of Nancy Suits widow of the late John P. Suits 
N221 
Vol 4.66 -19/6 in Decr ‘82 
Vol. 4 p 66 $26.44 Dec 1782
11 days
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State of New York 
Montgomery County } SS. Wyand Lepper of the Town of Ephratah in the said County being sworn says, that he served in the war of the revolution in the Company whereof Henry Miller was Capt., in the Regt. of Col. Jacob Klock, & was ninety one years of age last May - that he was well acquainted in said war with John P. Suits who served in said Company & sometimes as fifer - that they part of the time in said war lived together in the same house, & served often together in the same Company - that he was acquainted also with Nancy the present widow of said Suits who passed & was regarded as his wife in said war & afterwards & had together children named Mary who is dead, & Nancy, the wife of Christopher Fox, & others with whom he was also acquainted & further says that the said John P. Suits is a son of his this Deponents’ sister, & he was well acquainted with said Suits & family - that said Suits & wife had children in said war - & Mary was the oldest & then Nancy the wife of said Fox - that he this Deponent & said John P. Suits served together in the year 1781 in the said Company of Capt. Henry Miller to Johnstown & were engaged in the battle there had between the American forces & the British & Indians in which the British & Indians were defeated - that after said battle on their way homeward one Diefendorff asked said Suits whether he was the man that got bullets from him in said battle & said Suits answered he was - this conversation he well remembers - that from said battle they proceeded to Stone Arabia Fort & prepared themselves & the Company followed in pursuit & in the pursuit Walter Butler was Killted & further says not –
[signed] Wyand Lepper X his mark
Sworn to this 7th day of October 1837. by me & I hereby certify that said Wyand Lepper is known to me & is a credible person who does not write but made his mark 
[signed] Henry M Livingston J.P.