Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 9280, John Black, N.C.
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(8-1776)

SERVICE                               NUMBER

N.C.        Black, John               S. 9280
Carded

CONTENTS
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5768--
South Carolina
John Black [illeg.]
of Abb. Distr. [Abbeville District] in the State of S. C. 
who was a Pri-- in the Comp-- commanded
by Captain Parks of the Regt commanded
by Col Locke in the ["S.C. line for" crossed through and star/asterisk written above line] 
Militia  2 mo- 20 days
Artificer 7 mo

Inscribed on the Roll of S. Car-- 
at the rate of 50 Dollars 88 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 16--day of Feb--
1833-- and Sent to Hon
W. F. Nuckolls, Hous [sic] of Rep

Arrears to 4th of Sep 1833  $96.32
Semi-anl. allowance ending 14 Mar 1833  $45.44

$140.76
Revolutionary [illeg.]
Act June  7, 18[illeg.]
Recorded by E. D. Bullock
Book D  Vol. 8  Page 8
[star/asterisk]
N.Carolina
Records corrected Decr. [illeg.]




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Let 13  [illeg.]  Pen Agt.
"    "     "   "     Pension [illeg.]
"  12 Apr.       W. B. Ector
"  28 Jan 1837   Hon. W. C. Dawson
" 18 Mar      W B. Extor
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John Black

Omitted
2020 Pri: Artificer 7 mo
$50--88
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State of South Carolina
Abbeville District        SS
On this twenty fourth day of October personally appeared in open court before the Judge of the court of common please now sitting John Black a resident of the Abbevile District, South Carolina, aged Sixtynine [sic] years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7th 1832.
that he entered the Service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated
that he entered the service of the United States as a Volunteer Militiaman under a captain John Brumfield in Col Irwins Regiment of North Carolina Militia  that he only remained about ten days in the Service when he was detached from the army and put into an armory with one Isaac Price for the purpose of  repairing firearms & making Swords for the horses troops & mounted militia--  that he entred [sic] the service about the first of December 1779 and left the service about the first of March 1780.  that he resided in Mecklenburg County North Carolina, that he had volunteered his service for the camp but from his having been put to work as an armor he never was engaged in any Battle or march throught [sic] the country or formed any acquaintance with any of the Regular army & field officers-- that he got a discharge he thinks signed by Richard Troter which is lost and that he knows of no person now living who cold [sic, could] prove his service
that he again entered the Service as a volunteer militia man under General Dawson and acted as an assistant armoror [sic] during the whole time in  repairing the guns & other implement of war that he resided in Mecklenburg County North Carolina when we saw this service, that he entred [sic] this service about the first of September 1780 and left the service about the first of January 1781 being out about 4 months in this town  that he had no discharge or other documentary evidence none know of no man who can testify to his Service on this occation [sic, occasion], that he again entered the service
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about the 20th January 1781 as a Volunteer General Davidson having issued a proclamation offering a discharge for a three month tour to anyone who wold [sic, would] serve six weeks at that critical juncture (with a view to raise a force to entercept [sic] Cornwalis) that he turned out under a Captain Jhn Brunfield who was promoted to Brigade Major when the Lieutenant Hugh Parks acted as Captain  that he was under General Davison [sic] when he was killed when the British crossed the Cataba after the Battle at the Cowpens, that a Colonel Francis Lock afterward commanded the Regiment.  that they continued to harrass [sic] the rear of the British army until they got to Guilford where we joined General Green and continued to serve with General Green untill [sic] the 10th of March 1781 when he was discharged and Suffered to return home.  that he has no documentary evidence nore [sic, nor] knows of no one now living who can testify to this service that he hereby relinquishes every claim whatsoever to a pention [sic] or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pention roll of any agency or state 
Jno Black  G. S.
Sworn to and subscribed this day & year aforesaid In open Court
Jas. Wardlaw
Clk.

We James Moore a clergyman residing in the District of Abbeville State of South Carolina and John Osborn residing in the same hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Black who has subscribed and Sworn to the above declaration.  that we believe him to be Sixtynine [sic] years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Jas Moore
John Osborn

Sworn to in open court
24 October Test Jas Wardlaw
Clk.
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and the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary Soldier and served as he states, and the court further certifies that it appears to them that James Moore who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman resident in the District of Abbeville, and that John Osborn who has also signed the same is a resident in the District of Abbeville and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
Richard Gautt 

I James Wardlaw Clerk of the Court of Common pleas do hereby certify tat the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of John Black for a pention [sic]
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this twenty fourth day of October 1832
John Wardlaw
Clk.
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[illeg. initials in right upper corner]

Rev. and 1812 Wars Section

October 18, 1923

Mrs. C. H. Wine
Culpeper [sic], Box 167
Virginia  

Madam:
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 9280 it appears that John Black, while a resident of Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, enlisted December 1, 1779 in Captain John Brumfield's Company, Colonel Irwin's North Carolina Regiment and after serving ten days was detached and placed in an armory where he worked until March 1, 1780.
From September 1, 1780 he served as assistant armorer until January 1, 1781.  On January 20, 1781 he enlisted and served as a private in Captain John Brumfield and Lieutenant Hugh Park's Company, Colonel Francis Lock's Regiment until March 10, 1781.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 24, 1832 while a resident of Abbeville District, South Carolina aged sixty-nine years.  In 1835 he was a resident of Meriwether County, Georgia.  Date of death not stated and no family data on file.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.  

[handwritten at closing]
[illeg.] office never questioned
his services either as a private or artificer  no need of mentioning dropping
Miss Wilson said note this--
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Culpeper [sic] Va.
Oct. 15/23

Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.

My dear Sir:
Will you kindly give me the Service of "John Black" of County of Mecklenburg, State N.C., name of his wife or children.  He was a Revolutionary Soldier. Thanking you.  I am
Very Sincerely,
Mrs. C. H. Wine,
Box 167

[stamp]
U.S. PENSION OFFICE
OCT 17 1923
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1923-Oct: 18- Hist. to Mrs. C.H. Wine- MMMH.

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Rev War
9280
INVALID.
File No. 9280
John Black
Priv. Rev. War
Act: June 7th 1832
Index:--Vol. 1, Page 35
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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War Department,
Pension Office,
January 12, 1838

Sir,
I return herewith the letter of Mr. Ector upon the subject of the claim of John Black of South Carolina, and have the honor to state that, the Department has not the power to offer Mr. Smith [sic] the relief he asks.
A great portion of the service he claims for, was, to use his own words, "a volunteer militia man, and acted as an assistant armourer [sic] during the whole time."  This service is not recognized by the Department as military service.
I enclose also an authenticated copy of his original papers attached to which you will find his explanatory statements.
I have the honor to be,
very respectfully,
Your Obt. Servt.
J. . Edwards

Hon. W. C. Dawson,
House of Representatives
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[envelope]
Nov 9.          Free

[postmark]
GREEN[illeg.] SC
OCT 30

Mail

J. L. Edwards, Esqr.
Comm. of Pensions
Washington City
D. C.
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Greenville, Meriwether Cty. Ga,
28 Octr. 1835

Sir,
Mr. John Black, H.S. requests me to write you as follows.-- Mr. B. is a Pensioner of the United States, lately a resident in Abbeville district South Carolina, now a resident of this County since about last Christmas.-- He lately sent on to Savannah in this State to draw his Pension from 4th March 50 4th September 1835, he was awarded that he must first ask & receive your authority to be transfered [sic] from the South Carolina to the Georgia Agency.-- Not being permanently settled here & thinking he would next year probably remove back to South Carolina he declined asking for such transfer but had new papers made out to draw in Charleston, they have been presented & payment refused on the ground as is either that he is under arrangement of transfer, or some difficulty as is understood of that kind.--
Will you please inform me the decision of the Department in the case, the present state of Mr. Black & where he may hereafter draw his Pension.--
Respectfully y. obt Servt
W. B. Ector

J. L. Edwards, Esqr.
Washington City
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J. L. Edwards Esqr.
Comm. of Pensions
Washington City,
D. C.
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Greeneville, Meriwether Coty [sic], Ga.
27th Febry 1837 --

Sir,
Herewith accompanying you will receive the amended Declaration of John Black, G. S. applying for restoration to the Pension List.--
He confidently relies on your favourable consideration & decision of his case, on a review of it, to which your attention is called at your early convenience, with your answer addressed to me at this place.--
The Declarations, [illeg.] together, explain themselves fully without adding more.--
Respectfuly Yr. obt. servt
W. B. Ector

J. L. Edwards, Esqr.
Comm. Pensions,
Washington City.--
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(No. 4.)
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Washington City
29th Jany. 1837

My Dear Sir,
Some days ago Col. Pickens of S. Carolina places in my hands, your Letter, in relation to the Papers of W. Black--  I immediately addressed, the proper Department, upon the subject, and the Papers enclosed, I received as a reply, and am now forwarding-- You will perceive from Mr. Edwards Litle, that he considers the services rendered by W. Black, as a blacksmith, not military-- in this I apprehend, he may be mistaken, especially if Mr. B. can establish the fact, that he was a Soldier, and ordered on that particular duty-- I though I would make no question with the Commissioner until a copy of all The Papers have been placed in your hands, for amendments-- Should Mr. B. be unable to comply literally with the acts of the 7th June 1832, I would advise him still to urge his claim on the testimony already submitted--
I am very Respectfully
Yr. Obt. Srvt.
Wm..C..Dawson

W.B. Ector Esqr.
Greeneville
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[illegible postmark ]

Free
Wm..C..Dawson

W. B. Ector Esquire
Greeneville
Meriwether County
Georgia
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(No. 3.)

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W. B. Ector

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Mr.
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Washington
24 [?] June 1836

Dear Sir
I recd from you the enclosed papers, & regret that Mr. Black cannot be put on the Pension roll as a blacksmith, Mr. Cleavland [sic] of your state had the papers also and tried to restore him, but he agrees with me that he cannot be restored.  I would suggest to you to make a name Declaration for Mr. Black, & try again with new papers.
Very respectfully
J. W. Pickens
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John Black
(No. 1.)
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War Department
Pension Office
November 12, 1836

Sir,
In answer to your letter of the 28th ulto. respecting the case of John Black I have to inform you that his name has been dropped from the Pension Roll, for reason set forth in a letter addressed to Mr. B. on the 13th of April last, a copy of which I herewith enclose.  I cannot discover that any papers in relation to his application for a transfer were ever received here.
I am, very respectfully
Your obt. Servant.
J. L. Edwards

M. B. Ector, Esqr
Greenville
Meriwether County
Georgia.
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W B. Ector--
March 18 1834
[illeg.]

Recd. Vol. 45 pa. 224
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Department of War
Penna [sic] Office
March 8 1834

Sir
I have en. [enclosed?] the additional statement of Mr. Jno Black, and have examined it, and do not find any reason to justify his name being again placed upon the pension roll, but on the contrary it furnishes a strong argument against it.  It seems that Isaac Price, the master of the claimant at that time was himself draughted [drafted], and upon his engaging to repair fire arms and to make swords, he was discharged &  freed from military duty, - and that Mr. Black the claimant also quit the camp after 10 days service & recommenced living with and working with his march, and while thus engaged, they were both wholly exempt from military service & worked under a civil contract for which they were paid.  There were to artificers with William 
JAM

WB Ector Esq
Greenville
Ga.
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(No. 2.)
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War Department,
Pension Office,
January 18, 1837.

Sir,
Enclosed is an authenticated copy of the papers of John Black.
It appears that his military service, as a private, was only w months & 20 days.  His service as a blacksmith, + is not considered as military, and therefore not within the provisions of the Act of 7 June, 1832.
I have the honor to be
very respectfully,
your obt. sert.
J L Edwards

+ He was a Gun Smith;--see the Initials G.S. at the end of his name.

Hon. W. C. Dawson,
House of Representatives
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NOTE:  MUCH OF THIS LETTER, WHICH APPEARS TO BE A DRAFT, HAS BEEN CROSSED OUT.  THE CROSSED OUT PORTIONS ARE PLACED IN BRACKETS.

War Dept.
Pension Office
April 12, 1837

Sir,
In reply to your letter of the 31st ulto I have to inform you that this Dept. adheres to its decision into [that I do not consider it necessary to (illeg.) into any full explanation relative further discussion respecting the] case of John Black.  [The service as artificer which it is alleged he performed does not (illeg.) him to a pension under any act of Congress; and the short period in which he performed actual military duty was not sufficiently long enough to bring his case under within the provisions of the pentions (sic) law.  the claim of (illeg.) the pension which was improperly granted cannot of course be continued to him.]

The claim of Frances Jordan, widow of Charles
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Jordan under the act of June 7, 1832 cannot be admitted without some proof of service other than her own declaration.

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12 April 1837
B. C.

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Record Vol. 45, P. 336

Enter Jordan case on the [illeg.] Index

W. B. Ector, Esqr.
Greenville
Georgia
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Greenville, Ga. 31st Mar. 1837

Sir,
Yours of the 18th. [illeg.] informing me of your decision against the claim of John Black has been duly recd.--
I will not ask your again reviewing it, satisfied your convictions have been from a sense of duty.--  Still, I feel much disappointed I must confess at the result, thinking it a very clear case injustice at least, even through barred from technical legality.--
Having been advised that Mr. Black memoralize [?] Congress for restoration I will merely add some matters pressing in his claim in which we differ, which very naturally & necessarily lead to different conclusions.--
1st.--You say there were"no  artificers in the militia.-- Mr. Black shows there were none in the regular army when he served.-- Price & himself filled that whole duty regular or militia, & both; [manicule inserted] was such a business recognized legally, and it necessary equitably [sic].
2nd.-- You say he, Black, "was wholly exempt from military service and worked under a civil contract for which he was paid." Was
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the "exemption" his fault, he stated he preferred to serve;-- are not soldiers paid, also physicians spies & [illeg.] who do not serve, & does the mere payment exclude them from pension?  You say he worked under a civil contract," I do not understand him to mean that this contract was any thing else than a substitution at home of service, of service in camp, & that this mechanic service was prefered [sic] by the country to service as a soldier & taken in lieu of it.-- It was not a civil contract, there was not so many muskets, sword &c, made for so much money;; if on the part of Price which is not so stated or believed by Black, still certainly not on his part.--
3rd--You say he was discharged after ten days & quit the camp; this is literally true but not in spirit.-- Black contends that he was not "discharged" in the military sense of the word but personally only, & that he "quit" only as detailed to more important & continued duty.--
4th.-- The extension of the time promised by Genl. Davidson & which your own intelligence in your knowledge of the history of those times, [manicule inserted] See Genl. Washingtons late writings & the fact that he certainly would have fulfilled it if he had not been killed;; place this right, equitable of course, with the service, rendered at home which may be presented & compared as contingent & questions
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& Mr. Blacks claim may present itself as one of those mixed ones entitling him at least to some allowance of Pension in commiting [sic] amount & circumstances.-- I think he is entitled to something, he feels so, & if on further consideration of the views here presented you may think him fairly entitled, under the circumstances, to restore him for the least possible time & amount authorized by the Act, he would I presume be satisfied.--  If so, you wil so inform me.--
All which is respectfully submitted.--
I sent you just before the close of the session, through Genl. Glascock, the claim of Frances Jordan widow of Charles Jordan to a Pension, of this county; your decision upon which I have not recd,, though transmitted before Mr. Black's; --has it been recd?--
Respectfully yr. obt. Servt.
W. B. Ector

J. L. Edwards, Esqr.
Comm. Pens.
Washington City
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P.S.-- After writing the within, in casually adverting to the writings of Washington lately published by Sparks, Vol. 5-- Page 334-- I observe that Genl. Gates in being ordered to command the Northern Army was authorized "to call for the artificers & militia of the State of New York & Eastern States."--My impressions of reading is that it was done frequently--generally--That it was done in N. Carolina where Black was is certain
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John Black
Georgia

[the following lines are crossed through]
Sent letter to W. B. Ector
April 12 1837
to the Hon W C Dawson
Sept 15 1837
[line illeg.]
[line illeg.]
W. C. Dawson Apl 17
1838
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[line illeg.]
Sept. 15. 1837
G. C.

Record 42 [number circled] page 444
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Depart. of War
Pension Office
Sept 15 1837

Sir,
I return herewith the letter of Mr. Ector upon the subject of the claim of Jno. Black of S.C. and in reply  have the honor to state that Mr. Blacks name was improperly placed upon the pension roll and was subsequently dropped therefrom.  The services of Mr Black were those of a blacksmith, under civil contract, and not those of a soldier in the army and are not provided for under the pension laws.
The claim of Giles Kelley may be admitted as private for nine months if he shall advise the Depart. of his acceptance of a certificate for that amt.
I have the honor

Hon W C Dawson
H.R.
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John F Black
13- Apl. 1835
G. C.

Record.  Vol 25 1/2 page 438
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Department of War
Pension Office
April 13, 1835

Sir
Upon an examination of your claim I find that your services were not such as to entitle you to the benifit [sic] of the provisions of the Act of Congress passed June 7 1832
It appears that your military service was only 2 mo & 20 days.  the service as a blacksmith cannot be allowed
The Agency has been ordered [?] to drop your name from the roll
JAM  

W Jno Black
Cae Clk ct
Abbeville District CC
S.C.   CC
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To either of the Senators
of the States of Georgia, and S. Carolina,
Washington City,
D. C.
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Greeneville, Meriwether Cty, Ga
17th Febry 1837

Sir,
The accompanying papers are addressed to you, as the Representative will most probably have left Washington before their arrival, who have had charge of them together, as you will see, to wit, Messrs Pickens & Dawson.-- They form the case of John Black, a citizen of this county lately from South Carolina, established as a Pensioner & dropped on a review of his Declaration account of his "service" as an "Artificer" not being considered "military."--
[manicule inserted]  The papers particularly addressed to your attention, is,
1st.-- Letter from the Comr. of Pensions, No. 1,--dated Nov. 12-1835, giving notice of Mr. B's being dropped from the Pension List.--
2nd.-- ditto--ditto--No. 2,--dated January 18--1837, giving the reasons therefor.--
3rd.-- Letter of the Honble Mr. Pickens, No. 3,--date 24 June 1836, advising the course to be pursued by Mr. B.--
4th.--Ditto of the Honble W. C. Dason, No. 4--dated 19 Jany '37, of the same tenor.--
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Please give to them all, together with the original & amended Declarations together annexed, a moments examination & presentment to the Commissioner of Pensions.-- On doing so with proper representations, I flatter myself the applicant must succeed in restoration.--
Individually, as far as I can judge about it, it appears to be a very fair case.--
I would premise for Mr. Black that he is a very worthy old citizen, that he is not, nor was not in the Revolution, solely nor hardly at all, a Blacksmith, but first rate Gun Smith.--During the late War with the British he took the Premium of $50 offered by the State of North Carolina for making the best Musket, & $20 for the best Sword, &c.--
Your personal attention in any representations & explanations of his claim will be gratefuly [sic] esteemed by him.
Respectfully yr. obt. Servt.
W. B. Ector

To the Senators
of Ga or S.C.
Washington City
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Hon. W. C. Dawson
April 12, 1838
G. C.

Record [Vol.] 116 page 418
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Depart. of War
Pension Office
April 12 1838

Sir
In reply to your letter upon the subject of the claim of Jno. Black of Ga. enquiring [sic] why his name was stricken from the pension roll, whether he performed any service, and whether his name is to be found upon any master-rolls I have the honor to state, that the reason for [illeg.] his name from the roll was, that his service in the army did not amount to 6 mos. It appears from the history, and his own statement, that he served 2 mo & 20 days in the Militia, and was subsequently employed seven months in a Smith shop.  This seven months service is not deemed such as the law is intended to embrace
There are no master-rolls of the militia of So. C. in the Office.
I have the honor to be
G C

Hon W. C. Dawson
HR
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Hon. J. Fry. [illeg.]
March 19, 38
OC

M. 2987
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War Dep      (1)
Pen: Off
March 19 38

Sir
Agreeably to your request I have examined the following cases of petitioners to Congress for pensions and have the honor to make you the following report in relation to each  Thurston Cornel alleges that in the fall of '78 he deserted from the enemy while driving a baggage waggon [sic] (having been taken by the enemy while engaged in driving off stock) and joined a Company of Mass. Militia commanded by Capt. Lucas in Genl. Sulivans expedition in which he served 3 1/2 mo-- This term, has been objected to ["on the ground that" is crossed through] 1st because the rolls of the Mass. Militia (which are believed to be full & compleat [sic] as to that ill fated expedition, furnish no evidence that in that or any other service of that state-- and 2. because the term of service was from 1 mo to 6 weeks instead of 3 1/2 mo as expected--
He also claims for a term of continuous
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service of 8 mo from Dcr. 78 to Aug 9- under Capt. Borden at a Forage Yard in Liveston [sic] where he resided & in guarding the Shores--
The service of the R.Id. militia at that time performed in rotation by classes which embraced both officers & men-- If Capt Borden who was a militia Officer was really engaged about the forage yard continuously for 8 mo he was not acting in his character of Capt of a local militia company but [some illegible words crossed through] under personal contract as a clerk or other agent of a Commission
This alleged service was clearly not such service in the contemplation of the act of 7 June 1832--
He also asserts 9 mo service from Decr. 80 [under] Lt. Dunham & Ensign Vaughn which is discredited by the certificate from the Secy of R. Id. that the roll of the militia [appointments] (known to be compleat [sic]) furnish no evidence of such officers--
James Whidden asserted a claim under the act 7 June1832 for an alleged term of 6 mo service in 77 under Cat Leavitt N.H. militia and for 4 mo under Capt Folsom in Sullivans expedition  [illeg.] 2d in 78- The rolls shew [sic] [illeg.] the first term was 3 mo. 8 days & the other one 26 days amounting to less than the minimum
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(2)
provision of the act
Helen Miller ["formerly the widow of (illeg.) crossed through] presents her claim for the alleged services of her first husband Philip P. Glumon decd. in the Company of Capt. Rockfeller [sic] Col. Livingston's Regt. of N. York Militia at various periods in short tours ["the close of the War] crossed through] from 76 to 82--  the agregate [sic] of the service is estimated in the papers at 8 or 9 months-- These are rolls of the men commanded by Rockfeller ["Company" crossed through] for every tour of service after 78 and the name of her late husband is not found on either of them-- It ["is supposed" crossed through] may be that there is some error as to the name of his Capt in actual service-- Rockefeller was the Capt of this militia company to which he belonged but he may have been drafted repeatedly when his Capt was not-- Two witnesses assert that he did belong to that company and was out some 5 or 6 times which they are unable to specify as the rules require-- The evidence is not deemed sufficient to rebut the presumption raised by the rolls--
Mary Williams's claim is not embraced by the provisions of the act of 4 July 1836 as her late husband died subsequent
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to its passage--
[the next paragraph regarding John Black is highlighted]
John Black was allowed a pension for an alleged service of 9 mo. 20 days-- It was subsequently discovered that 7 mo of that service consisted in his employment to repair arms &c as an armorer.  This is not deemed a military service in the contemplation of the act of 7 June 83 and his name has been accordingly dropped from the roll of Pensioners under that act--
The claim of Wm Neves of Georgia was rejected upon the ground that the service as alleged by himself upon oath was less than 6 mo the minimum service for which the act provides-- and the pension of George Green was suspended for reasons set forth in a report from this office to the Secy of War on 10 Feby '36 a copy of which ["is herewith enclosed" crossed through] was forwarded Cotton E. Haynes on 23 ult. & is in the possession of the Committee--
John Rodgers alleges ["an enlistment &" crossed through] service in the Ga. Line from 76 or 77 to the close of the War under an enlistment
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(3)
for the War-- This allegation is discredited by the fact that neither his own nae nor that of his designated officers are found on the rolls of that Line or on the final Settlements for such a term-- He is not returned as a war's man for bounty land nor does it appear that he ever asserted a claim to bounty Land-- His claim has been therefore resisted because it is founded on a service which if rendered in a military capacity must ["have" crossed through] necessarily have been susceptible of record proof and of which no trace of evidence can be found on the records-- There was a John Rodgers in the SoC Line who was unquestionably a different person from the claimant as his service was a short term & no officer named by the claimant is found on the roll of the regiment to which he belonged--
Benjamin Durfee alleges various terms of militia service under certain designated officers from 75 to 79 inclusive & exceeding in the agregate [sic] the maximum service of a full pension ["under certain designated officers" crossed through]  He is not found on the rolls of those officers as far as any rolls have been found except for two terms amounting to 20 days and the discredit thus thrown over his
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his estimate of the length of his tours may be added the fact that the rolls shew [sic] that Capt. Henry Brightman under whom he served 4 days on an alarm in July 1790, was a Sergt. in 78 in Capt. Jos. Durfees command when he alleges he served under him as Captain  His pension having been admitted previous to the receipt of the rolls has been suspended upon the facts above stated--
In the case of Wm Nee I have the honor to refer you to my letters to Hon Andrew Beirne of 6 Oct. 37 & 3 Jany '38-- a copy of his papers on file in this office will be forwarded to you in a few days--
A copy of Christopher Roff's papers will also be forwarded to you as soon as it can be made out-
The original papers in the case of Mrs [illeg.] Miller are herewith enclosed for which be pleased to transmit your receipt to this office--


Hon. J. Fry Jr
Ho. Rep.
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Payments to be made
at Charleston
by Pres: W. [illeg.] Br. Bank
Agent for paying Pensioners,
in the Agency of
South Carolina

Recorded by E. D. Bullock
clerk, in Book D Vol. 8
page 81
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WAR DEPARTMENT.
Revolutionary Claim.

I certify that in conformity with the Law of the United States, of the 7th June, 1832, John Black [illeg.] of the State of South Carolina who was a Private and Artificer in the Army of the Revolution is entitled to receive Fifty dollars and Eighty eight cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 3th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually, on the 4th of March, and 4th of September, in every year.
Given at the War Office of the United States, this 16th day of February one thousand eight hundred and thirty-three
Lew Cass
Secretary of War

[illeg.]
J L Edwards