Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 2705, for Henry Tice, New York
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(3-1776)

SERVICE
New York

Tice, Henry
Huldah

NUMBER
W. 2705

CONTENTS
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[Left side:]
She died June 5, 1853
[from A.B.]

[Right side:]
947
New York A
Huldah Tice, widow of Henry Tice who served in the Revolutionary War New York as a Private.

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 45 Dollars
cents per annum, to commence on
7th of October 1851
Certificate of the Pension issued the
24th day of May 1852 and send to
A. L. Gage
[Present]
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
July 29, 1848, Page 84 Volume A
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New York 28.622
Henry Tice
of Tioga County in the State of New York
who was a Private in the Company commanded
by Captain Newkirk of the Regiment commanded
by Colonel Johnson in the New York militia 
line or 13 1/2 months

Inscribed on the Roll of New York
at the rate of 45 dollars __ cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March 1834.

Certificate of pension issued the 29th day of April
1836 and sent to
J. Robinson, Esquire Elmira

Arrears to the 4th of March 1834 $135.00
Semi-anl allowance ending Sept 4 '34 $22.50
$157.50

{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832}
Recorded by Samuel H Page, Clerk,
Book E Volume 4 Page 82
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[Left side:]
Number 1,096
Huldah Tice
widow of Henry 
Huldah Tice
application for Pension
M
Act 29 July 1848
Married before 1800
Husband died 7 October 1851

Admitted 13 1/2 months Private
$45.00 per annum
Commencing 7 October 1851

Albany
A L Gage, 
Present

[Right side:]
Huldah Tice
Application for pension
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State of New York}
County of Chemung} Ss.
On this Sixth day of March 1852 personally
appeared before me, Ariel S Thurston, one of the
Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in foresaid
County and state, Huldah Tice, a resident of the County
of Chemung and State of New York, aged Eighty years, who being duly sworn according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration in order to
obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed 29th of July 1848.
That her husband, Henry Tice, deceased, of the State of New York, who was a private in the Revolutionary War, drew a Pension of fourty-five dollars a year. That his Pension Certificate is dated 29th day of April 1834 and  is numbered 28,622.
She further declares that she was married to the said Henry Tice on the 30th day of August Seventeen hundred and ninety-two; that her husband, the said Henry Tice, died on the Seventh day of October 1851; that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the second day of January Eighteen hundred, viz: [namely] at the time above stated. She further swears that she is now a widow, and that she has never before made any application for a pension. That there is not any public or private Record of her said marriage or any entry thereof  in the family Bible, or of the death of her said husband Henry Tice.
Hulda Tice X her mark
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written by me
Ariel S Thurston
Judge or the Court of Common Pleas
in and for said County and State
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State of New York
County of Chemung
On this sixth day of March 1852 personally came before me the undersigned, Susan Collson and Almira Collson, both of lawful  age,  of the county and state aforesaid, who being duly sworn according to law say, that Henry Tice died at the Town of Chemung in the county of Chemung state of New York on the seventh day of October 1851,  as stated in Huldah Tice's declaration, that  many know that the widow Huldah Tice, has remained a widow ever since the death of the said Henry Tice.  That she is now a widow and that they are disinterested witnesses.
Susan Collson
Almira Collson
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year above written.
Ariel S Thurston
Judge of the County Comm Pleas in said county and state

State of New York
County of Chemung
I certify that Ariel S Thurston abovenamed before whom the foregoing affidavit was taken was at the time of talking the same Judge of the County Courts in and for the said county, duly qualified and authorized to act as such.  And I further certify that his signature above written is genuine.
Witness my hand and seal of office at Elmira this 10th day of March 1852
A  F Babcock, Clerk
Chemung County
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State of New York County  of Chemung}ss:
On this sixth day of March 1852 personally came before me the subscriber, David Stage and Sarah Wheat residents of the said County & State being duly sworn according to law, make Oath & say that they were acquainted with Henry Tice and Huldah Tice his widow in the year Seventeen hundred ninety five in & before the second day of January Eighteen hundred, at the County (now) of Chemung. (then)  the County of Tioga in the State of New York , that their recollection is clear & they are positive that they knew the said Henry & Huldah Tice previous to the second day of January Eighteen hundred, & they believe as early as seventeen hundred & Ninety five that at that time, & when they first knew the said Henry & Huldah Tice, they lived together as husband & wife & they were then reputed to be such, that they continued thus to he together as husband & wife until the death of the said Henry Tice- that the deponents knew the said Henry Tice & Huldah Tice previous to the second of January Eighteen hundred, & they recollect the date & time for the reason, that they knew them when they the said Henry & Huldah resided in Orange County New York, & they removed from Orange County to Chemung County New York pevious to the year Eighteen hundred of this they are confident & that they are  disinterested. [signed] David Stage  Sarah Wheat 
Sworn to & subscribed on the day & year above written & I certify that I am acquainted with each & every of the above named witnesses, & that they are persons of truth & veracity & reputable in their neighborhood Ariel T. Thornton Judge of the Court of Com. Pleas in & for said County & State.
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I Ariel S. Thurston the Judge within named,  & before whom the declaration of Huldah Tice, the  applicant for a pension within named, & before  whole the proceedings were held, do hereby certify  & declare my opinion, after the investigation of the  matter, & after putting the interrogations prescribed  by the War Department, that her said husband,  Henry Tice, was a Revolutionary Soldier, & I do  further certify, that, in my opinion, her declaration  is true according to her best recollection, & that she  is totally unable from bodily infirmity & old age  to attend Court for the purpose of making her  declaration [Signature written here: “Ariel S. Thurston.”]  Judge of the County Court (Court): Pleas  in & for said County & State.
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Henry Tice 
Declaration 
14403

G.B Baldwin

Sent to J Robinson
Elmira New York
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State of New York  Tioga County ss 
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice  of the Peace in and for said County  Henry Tice who being duly sworn  deposeth and saith that by reason  of old age and the Consequent  loss of memory he cannot (?) positively as to the precise length  of his service, but according to the  best of his recollection he served  Not less than the periods mentioned  below, and in the following grades  For two Years I served as a  Private; and for such service  & claim a Pension — 
Sworn & subscribed } [Signature written here, “Henry Tice”]  this 28th May 1838  before me  W Maxwell Justice of the  peace Tioga Co. N.Y 
I certify that I am well acquainted  with Henry Tice above named, and  that he is a credible witness 
W. Maxwell  Justice of the peace  Tioga Co. N.Y
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State of New York
Tioga County I Green M Tuthill Clerk of the
said County do hereby certify that William
Maxwell Esquire before whom the
foregoing affidavit purports to have
been sworn and by whom the forgoing
certificate of credibility is signed was
at the date of the same a Justice of the
Peace in and for said County; that
I am well acquainted with his hand
writing and know his signature such
scribed thereto to be genuine
Witness my hand and ┃
seal of office this 30th
day of May 1833-
Green M Tuthill Clerk
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At a Special Court held, pursuant to the Regulations of the war department in such case made and provided before the Hon. Grant B. Baldwin first Judge of Tioga County in the State of New York at the House of Henry Rice in the Town of Channing in the said County, and by adjournment at the house of Jacob Lowman in the same place on the 2nd day of October 1832

State of New York
Tioga County 
On this second day of October1832 personally appeared before the Judge before named who is the first Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Tioga and State aforesaid
which is a court of record because made so by the Laws and Constitution of the State having by Law Clerk & Seal, Henry Tice, a resident of the said Town of Channing, County & State aforesaid
and seventy years the 16th day of July last who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832; that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as
herein stated. In the month of July in the year 1778, this deponent being sixteen years of age at the time and understanding that
he was bound to perform military duty,
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The militia in the County of Ulster in the
State of New York where this deponent resided
[there] call'd upon under Col. John Johnson
of Shawangunk in the same County to
enroll, muster and turn out for defense
against the Indians and tories upon the ┃
frontier of what now compose the County
of Orange and Sullivan but was then
mostly the frontier of Ulster County aforesaid
It was understood that those who did not
volunteer must stand a draft and this
deponent choose to volunteer and did
so for no certain period of service
but for as long as the circumstances
might be ^ required he turned out a volunteer in
the company commanded by Captain
John Newkirk of the Regiment of
Colonel Johnson before named. We were
marched on to the out posts which
extended to the Delaware River.
He was stationed on Garrison duty (with
the exception of occasionally acting as a
scout and spie [sic]) at Fort Devens as
was called being originally the
dwelling house of James Devens but
picketed and stockaded for a Fort;
this Campaign lasted a few days
beyond four months when our company
were relieved by fresh Troops
and we were permitted to return
home. In the Spring of the next year
1779 he again turned out as a volunteer
under Captain Henry Van Cure
of the same Regiment aforesaid and
we understood at the time that you
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George Clinton had issued orders for
all the Militia in this Regiment to
be furnished with arms and ammunition
and we were accordingly armed and
equiped and been marched on to the
frontier where be continued for three
months; were then relieved by other
Troops when all were marched into
the interior of the County and on to
the North River visiting the places of
Esopus New paltz and Shawangunk and
acting as spies, guards and scouts,
being subject to frequent alarms on
account of the Tories. In this service
the declarant continued for upwards
of four years, the out posts not being
wholly abandoned, till in the fall of
1783 to which period this deponent
pursued no other business from the
month of July 1778 when he first
entered the service; that during the
said time he was engaged in
the service the Country through which
he marched was the frontier of
Orange and Ulster Counties, and what
is now Sullivan County including
the interior of those Counties and
the borders upon the North River;
and that His principal encampments
upon the frontier were Fort Devens
Fort Hunt and Fort Rose-- That
he has no documentary evidence of
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his said services but has one living
witness to the general nature of them
who is Christopher Tice of the Town of
Chemung a foresaid __
And in answer to the several
interrogatories put to him by the
Judge aforesaid he says that he
was born in the Town of Montgomery
of Ulster and State of New York
County 16th day of July in the year
1762 that he has a record of his age
in his family Bible which he received
from his parents- That when he first
entered the service in the Revolutionary
War he lived at a place called by
the Inhabitants at that time Poconsink 
in the County of Ulster aforesaid-
and lived at the same place two or three
years after the War then lived in the
Town of Maria Cotten same County
about twenty years and lastly at his
present residence in Chemung about
thirty years- That he served as a
volunteer - that the Field Officers
who were with the Troops where
he served at different times were ┃

General George Clinton - General James
Clinton, Colonel Johnson and Colonel
Livingston of Dutchess County - that
he had no discharge - That he would
refer to Jacob Lowman Esquire Jacob
Krep Esquire and the Honorable John G. Mc Dowel
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all of Chemung aforesaid and his neighbors
who are well acquainted with his
reputation for truth and veracity and
who can testify to their belief in the
truth of the foregoing declaration
He hereby relinquishes every claim
whatever to a pension or annuity
except the present and declares that
his name is not on the pension roll
of the agency of any State
Sworn to and subscribed }
the day and year aforesaid }
Henry Tice
G. B. Baldwin
Henry Hill
First Judge
Tioga County
New York
We Jacob Lowman and John McDowell
Citizens residing in the Town of Chemung
County of Tioga and State of New York
hereby certify that we are well
acquainted with Henry Tice who
has subscribed and sworn to the
above declaration and have been
acquainted with him for the space
of thirty years past; that we believe
him to be seventy years of age and
upwards; that he is reputed and
believed in the neighborhood where
he resides to have been a Soldier
of the Revolution and that We concur
in that opinion.}
Sworn and subscribed the day and year}
aforesaid -
Jacob Lowman
J McDowell
G. B. Baldwin
First Judge Tioga County
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State of New York
Tioga County ss } 

Christopher Tice a resident
of the Town of Chemung, County and
State aforesaid aged Seventy two years
and upwards being duly sworn according
to Law doth depose and say
that he is a Brother to Henry Rice
who has subscribed and sworn to
the foregoing declaration. That
during the Revolutionary war he
this deponent lived at home with
his parents in Pocosink, County
of Ulster and State aforesaid-
That he well remembers that when
his Brother Henry became sixteen
years of age which was in the
month of July 1778 he the said Henry
entered the service of the United States
as a Volunteer first in the company of
Captain John Newberry and afterwards
under Captain Henry Van Cure both of
Colonel Johnsons, Regiment of Ulster
County Militia. That the said Henry
continued in the militia service
in that Regiment from the time of
his entering the same in the year
1778 till the close of the War in
the year 1783 and pursued No
other kind of business during that
time. And this deponent further
saith that it was well understood
in the family at the time that the
operations of the Troops to whom
the said Henry was attached were
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mainly confined to the frontier
Settlements of the Counties of Ulster
and Orange and through the
interior of the same against the
Indians and Tories -
Sworn to & subscribed}
this 2nd day of October}
1832 before me}
Christopher Tice
G B. Baldwin
First Judge Tioga Co
And the said Judge doth hereby declare
his opinion after the investigation of the
matter and after putting the interrogatories
presented by the War department that the
above named applicant was a Revolutionary
soldier and served as he states. And
the said Judge further certifies that it
appears to him that there is no
Clergyman residing in the immediate
neighborhood of the said applicant and
that Jacob Lowman & John G. McDowell who have
signed the preceeding certificate are both
residents of the Town of Chemung
in this County and are credible persons
and that their statement is entitled to
credit and that Christopher Tice who
has subscribed and sworn to the foregoing
affidavit is a credible person and
his statement entitled to full credit.
And the said Judge further certifies
that it appears to him that the above
named applicant is unable to appear
in Court by reason of bodily infirmity
October 2n. 1832. G. B. Baldwin
First Judge
Tioga Co
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I Green M. Tuthill Clerk of the Court of
Common Pleas in and for the County of
Tioga and State of New York do hereby
certify that Grant B. Baldwin Esq
before whom the foregoing original
proceedings have been had is the first
Judge of the said Court and that the same
is a court of record; and that his signature
annexed to the said proceedings
is his genuine signature-
[stamp or seal spot]
In Testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand
and seal of office this
4th day of October 1832
Green M Tuthill
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14.465
Henry Tice
Tioga Co N York
5.16
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BRIEF in the case of Henry Tice
of Tioga Co in the State of N York
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 70 yrs
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed
[table columns] Period. | Duration of Service. years, Months, Days. | Rank. As a | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Gen.

February in 1778 | 4 months | Private | Captain Newkirk ColonelJohnson
1779 | 3 mo | - | Capt Van Cure ColonelJohnson

The Deponent claims for services
upwards of four years- mosttly as
a militia man

5. In what battles was he engaged? None
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Ulster N York
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary
mentioned.
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Papers not attached or registered
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Richard Cutts
Examining Clerk.
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October 3, 1938.

E. Peret
123 Pennsylvania Avenue
Binghamton, New York.

BA-J/ILL
Henry Tice
W. 2705

Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Henry Tice, who served from Ulster County, New York.
The data which follow are found in the papers on file in pension claim, W. 2705, based upon service in the Revolutionary War of Henry Tice.
Henry Tice was born July 16, 1762 in Montgomery, Ulster County, New York.

While a resident of Poconsink, Ulster County, New York, (then the home of his parents whose names are not given) he enlisted in the fall of 1777 and served one month as private in Captain John Newkirk's company, Colonel John Johnson's New York regiment; this service was rendered as substitute for his father. Henry Tice enlisted in July 1778, and served four months as private in said company and regiment. He enlisted in the spring of 1779 and served during that year, six months in Captain Henry Van Kuren's company, Colonel John Johnson's New York regiment. He enlisted in the spring of 1780 and served during that year, three and one half months as private in Captain Henry Van Kuren's company, Colonel John Johnson's New York regiment. He also went out on various alarms, the details of which are not given.

After the Revolutionary War, the soldier lived in Poconsink, New York, for about two or three years, then lived about twenty years in Mamakating, Ulster County, New York, and finally in Chemung, Tioga County, New York.
Henry Tice was allowed pension on his application executed October 2, 1832, while a resident of Chemung, Tioga County, New York. He
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died there October 7, 1851.
Henry Tice married August 30, 1792, Huldah: her maiden name, the date and place of her birth, the names of her parents, and the place of marriage are not shown.
Huldah Tice, the soldier's widow, was allowed pension on her application executed March 6, 1852, at which time she was a resident
of Chemung, New York; she was aged then eighty years. She died June 5, 1853.
In 1832, Christopher Tice, the soldier's brother, was a resident of Chemung, New York, aged seventy-two years.
In 1852, Susan Collson, Almira Collson, and Sarah Wheat, all residents of Chemung County, New York, made affidavits in behalf of
Huldah Tice, the above noted widow: no relationship between these persons and the soldier's family was stated.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER,
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.
2.
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Brief in the case of Huldah Tice
Chemung County and State of New York
act
Claim, (original, or for increase.)
Proof exhibited, (if original.)
Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance. 
Husband was a pensioner
traditionary proof of marriage
(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim?  If so, what?
Name and residence of Agent
A. L. Gage
Present
S. Cole
Examining Clerk
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Washington March 15 1852
Hon: Comr. of Pensions
Sir
I have the honor to inclose the papers in the application of Huldah Tice, widow of Henry Tice decd.
I am Respectfully
Yr. Obt. Servt.
A. L. Gage
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Elmira April 21st 1834
Sir
This old soldier has endeavored to comply with the enclosed instructions of the 7th Sept. last after taking much time for reflection; but on account of great debility of mind (I may say) as well as body he is unable to give a particular description of but a part of his services which he respectfully submits and desires that a decision may be made as soon as the rules of the business will permit.
I am Sir, with great respect and esteem
Your Obt. Servant
J. Robinson

Hon. G. W. Crump
Pension department
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Henry Tice
14.4 65
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brief objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which these answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Henry Tice, Tioga Co N York which require further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?  Yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? No
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout of pension he is entitled? No
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? No
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes
IX. Has the clerk given his certificate? Yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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2
XI Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? No
XII If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? No
XIII If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? No
XIV If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? yes
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes
XV Does it appear form any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? 
XVI Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No 
XVII Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily?  And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes

EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE C. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory,state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making  an affidavit in the following words:
" Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, an in the following grades; For____ 
year______ months, and _______days, I served as a _______ For _______ months andd ______days, I served as a ________; and for such service I claim a pension.
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3
It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions
merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objection able. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper
officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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Mr. Edwards letter in relation to Henry Tice
Sept 7, 1833

(written upside down)
J. Robinson Esq
Elmira

(round stamp)
CITY of WASHINGTON
SEP 10
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J L Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions

(stamp)
FREE

G
J L Edwards
Confirmation of Pensions 
FREE

J. Robinson Esq
Elmira N.Y.

(written upside down)
Mr Edwards letter in relation to Henry Tice
Sept. 7, 1833
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War Department
Pension Office
September 7 1833
Sir
The papers of Henry Tice have again been
examined. He has not supplied the defects in his original by his supplemental declaration, which were indicated by the brief under objection 5, by stating the duration of each term of actual service, and the place or places where the service was performed &c. The case is suspended and papers placed on file.
I am Respectfully
Yr. Obt. Servt
J. L. Edwards
Robinson Esq
Elmira
N. Y.
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Henry Tice
Detailed Statement

1 mo under 16 years
disallowed

admd
13'2 mo pri
45$

J. Robinson
Elmira
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State of New York Tioga County SS
On this 18th day of April 1834 personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in and for said County Henry Tice who being duly sworn doth depose and that according to his best recollection the first tour of service which this deponent performed in the Revolutionary War was a short campaign of one month in the fall of the year 1777 just after the taking of Fort Mongomery by the enemy - We were ordered out by Colonel John Johnson who lived in Shangum, Ulster County, under Captain John Newkirk and were marched to the frontier of Ulster County to keep in check the Indians and tories. This deponent was not obliged to go out on this tour not having come to the age of sixteen years; but volunteered in the stead and place of his Father - our headquarters were at a port called Fort divens and this tour, as nigh as this deponent can recollect, must have been performed between the tenth of October and the middle of November in the year aforesaid.
And he further declares that in the following year 1778 between the 20th of July (in which month deponent became sixteen years of age and able to do military duty) and the first of December in this year he this deponent performed one campaign of four months under the officers before named - he was marched to the Frontier of Ulster and Orange Counties; was stationed on garrison duty at three different forts first at Fort Divens - then at Fort Herrik and then at Fort Rose and some part of the tour was out as a scout on detach'd parties

(written in left border)
1 mo.
4 mo
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And he further declares that the next year 1779 in pursuance of orders from Governor George Clinton; our company under the command of Capt. Henry Van Cure were ordered out on a tour of three months for frontier service. This expedition must have commenced early in the spring or by the first of April as he remembers it was in the forepart of July when he got home. This deponent was stationed on garrison duty at Fort Hunt a part of the tour and the remainder of it he was employed with a detached party in reconnoitering the different forts along the frontier.
And he further declares that soon after his return home in July as aforesaid a large number of Indians who had been ambushed in the Shongun mountain made an attack upon the dwelling house of Colonel Johnson our commanding officer, took and carried away two of our citizens prisoners. Orders were issued to pursue them and to reconnoitre the frontier forts. this deponent was one of the volunteers on that occasion and was out one month at least in the expedition before he returned home.
And this deponent further declares that in the month of October of this same year '[17]79 he was ordered out on another tour of three months under the same officers last before named - we were marched to the out posts - were employed for some 

(written in left margin)
3 month
1 month
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time repairing and strengthening them. This expedition did not last, however, much if any over two months, but at least that, when we were dismissed and returned home for the reason that the garrison had a sufficient force for the winter service.
And this deponent further declares that early in the spring of the next year 1780, under the same command a call was made upon our Regiment for troops to scour the Frontier as far as the Minisink River in the County of Orange. This deponent volunteered and went in the expedition and was as far as the borders of New Jersey was two months at least in this tour and returned home sometime in the month of June.
And this deponent further declares that between the firs of September and the first of December in the same year last aforesaid he was our on an expedition of one month and an half at least - was march'd along the Frontier forts to a place in Orange County call'd Peenpack - we were under the same command - were stationed at the place last aforesaid a short time; then marchd to Kingston were dismissed and returned home.
And he further says that he performed more or less service in the two following years besides many short turn outs on alarms during the periods before mentioned 

(written in left margin)
2 mo.
2 mo.
1/2 mo
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all of which he is wholly unable to detail as to length, date and order in which they occurred and shall therefore (illegible) satisfied with a pension for one year two and an half months as a private as above detail'd.
Henry Tice

Sworn & subscribed by the said Henry Tice to me known to be a credible witness this 18th day of April 1834 before me
Wm Dunn J.P

State of New York Tioga County SS
I Green M Tuthill Clerk of the said County do hereby certify that William Dunn Esquire before whom the foregoing affidavit was sworn and subscribed was at the date thereof one of the Justices of the Peace in and for said County - that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the said Justice and know his signature subscribed to the said affidavit to be genuine.
Witness my hand and seal of office this 21 day of April 1834.
Green M Tuthill Clk
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New York 
Revo.

Henry Tice 
Suspended
Let J Robinson
7 Sep 1833


Act 7 June '32
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Rev Sec
NS-1
515 Walnut St. Elmira, N. Y.
July 5, 1917
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D.C.
My dear Sir:-
Please send me the certificate of service of
Henry Tice of Ulster Co. N. Y. in the Revolutionary war
Yours truly
Helen Elston.
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[Left side]
1915 Oct. 4. History to Martha Elston Howe of 19 Hamilton St. Wellsville N.Y. thro desk of Mr C. M. Bryant. Deputy Commr's Room, her letter returned to him. AW
1917. July 11. Hist. to Helen Elston
1925 Nov. 10 - Hist. to James S. Elston
1932 - July 29 - Hist. to Hon. Robert Rich - ILL
1935 - July 13 Letter to James S. Elston relative to his father's service
1938 - Oct. 3 - Hist. to E. Peret

[Right side]
WIDOW, & c.
Revy
File No. 2705
Huldah Tice
Widow
Henry Tice
Pri. Rev. War

Act: July 29, 1848
Index:-Vol. M. Page 275
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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123 Pennsylvania Ave.
Binghamton, NY
Aug 27, 1938

Pension Dept.
U.S. War Department
Washington, D.C.

only Henry Tice

Dear Sirs,
If it is not out of place would like to inquire about a Henry Tice, who enlisted from Peconsink, Ulster County, N.Y. to serve in the Revolutionary War. In a book, New York in the Revolution I find many Tices, among them two Henrys, but of course am not sure as to what regiment my particular Henry Tice belonged. One was in the 4th Regt. Ulster Co. Militia under Col. Hardenburgh and the other under Col. Albert Pawling of the Levies.

The Henry Tice I refer to served for his father Joseph, later settling in Baldwin, Chemung County N.Y. about 1800.

Do not know of any other authentic source to inquire, and thought perhaps
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you could help me by direct information or by referring me to the proper organization. I am quite interested to know about others of my family of that period but as yet have no definite way to trace them. 
Thanking you, I remain
Sincerely,
E. Peret

(round stamp)
numbers around outer circle)
RECEIVED 
AUG 30 1938
MAIL SUN-DIV
VETS. ASS. 24
(illegible)
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June 13, 1935.
Mr. James S. Elston
The Travelers
Hartford, Connecticut.

RA-J/MHF/ILL
Henry Tice
W. 2705

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request
to know if Joseph Henry Tice, also known as Joost Hendrick, the
father of Henry Tice (W. 2705) whose record was furnished you,
served in the Revolutionary War.

It is not shown in the papers in the above noted pension
claim that the father of Henry Tice rendered any military service,
nor does the fact that Henry served as his substitute indicate
that his father rendered any service before or after 1777. In
many instances, when older men in the family were called to serve in the Revolutionary War, younger ones went on the tours of service in their stead.

There is no claim for pension on file based upon service
of a Joseph Tice who could have been the father of Henry, the pensioner, nor for service of my other Henry Tice, nor a Joost
Henrick.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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July 29, 1932.
Hon. Robert F. Rich
Woolrich
Pennsylvania.

RA-J/ MBHF/ill
Henry Tice
W. 2705

My dear Mr. Rich:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request information relative to Henry Tice, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.
.
The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, W. 2705, based upon the service of Henry Tice in that war.

Henry Tice was born July 16, 1762 in Montgomery, Ulster County, New York.

While a resident of Poconsink, Ulster County, New York, (then the home of his parents whose names are not given), he enlisted in the fall of 1777 and served one month as private in Captain John Newkirk's Company, Colonel John Johnson's New York Regiment. This service was as a substitute for his father. He enlisted in July, 1778, and served four months as private in said company and regiment. He enlisted in the spring of 1779 and served during that year, six months in Captain Henry Van Buren's Company, Colonel John Johnson's New York  Regiment. He enlisted in the spring of 1780 and served during that year, three and one half months as private in Captain Henry Van Kuren's Company, Colonel John Johnson's New York Regiment. He also went out on various alarms, the details of which are not given.

After the Revolution, the soldier lived in Poconsink, New York, for about two or three years, then lived about twenty years in Mamakating, Ulster County, New York, and finally in Chemung, Tioga County, New York.

He was allowed pension on his application executed October 2, 1832, while a resident of Chemung, Tioga County, New York.

1.
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He died October 7, 1821 in Chemung, New York.

The soldier married August 20, 1792, Huldah; her maiden
name, the date and place of her birth, the name of her parents and
the place of marriage are not stated.

The soldier's widow, Huldah Tice, was allowed pension on her application executed March 4, 1833, while a resident of Chemung County, New York, aged eighty years.

She died June 5, 1835.

The soldier had a brother, Christopher, who was living in Chemung, New York, in 1832, aged seventy two years.

Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator.
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November 13, 1925

James S. Elston
The Traveler's Ins. Co.,
Hartford, Conn.

Sir:

I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claimW [claim]. 2705 it appears that Henry Tice was born July 16, 1762 in Montgomery, Ulster County, New York.

While a resident of Poconsink, Ulster County, New York (then the home of his parents whose names are not given) he enlisted in the fall of 1777 and served one month as private in Captain John Newkirk's Company, Colonel
John Johnson's New York Regiment. This service was as a substitute for his father.

He enlisted in July 1778 and served four months as a private in said company and regiment.

He enlisted in the spring of 1779 and served during that year, six months in Captain Henry Van Kuren's Company, Colonel John Johnson's New York Regiment.

He enlisted in the spring of 1780 and served during that year, three and one half months as a private in Cap[tain]
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
[Handwritten note too light to read]

[cap] tain Henry Van Kuren's Company, Colonel John Johnson's New York Regiment. He also went out on various alarms, the details of which are not given. It is not stated that he was in Sullivan's Expedition.

After the Revolution soldier lived in Poconsink,
New York for about two or three years, then lived in Mamakating, Ulster County, New York about twenty years and finally in Chemung, Tioga County, New York where he was allowed pension on his application executed October
2, 1832. He died October 7, 1851 in Chemung, New York.

Soldier married August 30, 1792, Huldah, the date and place of her birth, her maiden name, the names of her parents and the place of marriage are not stated. She was allowed pension on her application executed March 6, 1852 while a resident of Chemung County, New York aged eighty years. She died June 5, 1853.
[[handwritten note: from a [illegible]]

Soldier had a brother Christopher living in Chemang, New York in 1832 aged seventy-two years. There is no further data on file as to family.
Respectfully,
[not signed]
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.

[handwritten note: the under scored lines are special questions by this inquiry]
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BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D.C. October 4, 1915
Martha E. Howe
19 Hamilton St. Wellsville New York
Madam
In reply to your request of 5th ultimo, received 4th instant
for a statement of the military history of Henry Tice
a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his and his widow's) application for pension
on file in this Bureau.
[Table of five columns, headed:]
DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. || LENGTH OF
SERVICE. || OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. || STATE.
Fall 1777 || 1 month || Private || Captain John Newkirk || Colonel John Johnson || New York.
July 1778 || 4 months || Private || Captain John Newkirk || Colonel John Johnson || New York.
1779 || 6 months || Private || Captain John Newkirk || Colonel John Johnson || New York.
1780 || 3 ½ months || Private || Captain John Newkirk || Colonel John Johnson || New York.
Also went out on various alarms, the details of which are not given
Battles engaged in, none stated
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Poconsink, Ulster County New York
Date of application for pension, October 2, 1832. His claim was allowed
Residence at date of application, Chemung Tioga County  New York
Age at date of application Born at  Montgomery Ulster County New York July 18, 1762.
Remarks: Solder married August 30, 1797 Huldah-, place of marriage not given
He died at Chemung New York October 7, 1837. She was allowed pension [illegible] [illegible] [illegible] March 6 1832 at which time she resided in Chemung County New York was 80 years old. Soldier's first service was rendered as a substitute for his father whose name is not stated. He had a brother Christopher, There is no further data as to family on file.
Respectfully,
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Commissioner.
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The Travelers
The Travelers Insurance Company
L. Edmund Zacher. President
Hartford, Connecticut
May 10, 1935

BENEDICT D. FLYNN
VICE-PRESIDENT AND ACTUARY

LIFE ACTUARIAL DEPARTMENT
H. PIERSON HAMMOND, ACTUARY
ASSISTANT ACTUARIES
W. RULON WILLIAMSON
JAMES S. ELSTON
W. NELSON BAGLEY
JAMES E. HOSKINS
WILLIAM H. KELTON
DORRANCE C. BRONSON
MILTON J. WOOD

Department of the Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington, D. C.

Gentlemen:

I have a letter you sent my November 13, 1925 about
the service in the Revolutionary War of Henry Tice. Incidentally
this was the most satisfactory letter I have seen of this
nature as it gives so much information for genealogical purposes.
His pension claim was W.2705.

It appears that his first service was a substitute for
his father. As far as I recollect there was no conscription at
that time so I wonder if this proves that his father, Joseph
Henry Tice (Joost Hendrick) also served in the Revolution prior
to the fall of 1777. I don't see what else this could mean but
I wonder if from your knowledge of such things, you consider
that this proves that his father served or if there is anything
further in the papers to show this. I assume there would be no
pension papers on his father because I believe that he died soon
after 1800. The family had not then consistently assumed the
surname so that he is usually referred to merely as Joost Hendrick.
Very truly yours,
James S. Elston
JSE: LAK

RECEIVED
MAY 13 1935
MAIL [ILLEGIBLE]
VETS.ADM
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ROBERT F. RICH
16TH PENNSYLVANIA DISTRICT
--------
WOOLRICH, PA.

COMMITTEES:
PATENTS
FLOOD CONTROL

Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Washington, D.C.

July 27, 1932.

Director of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

My dear sir:

Recently the War Department, at my request,
furnished me with a report of the military record of
Henry Tice who served during the Revolutionary War
as a Private in Capt. John Burnet's Company. Lt. Col.
Albert Pawling's Regiment, New York Militia. The
report stated that Mr. Tice enlisted on August 1, 1781
for four months and was discharged November 30, 1781.

Will you be kind enough to advise me whether the
records of the Pension Bureau show that Mr. Tice was a
pensioner and, if so, state his address and the date of
his death. I will appreciate full information with
respect to this veteran so far as the Pension Department
is concerned.

Very truly yours,
Robert F. Rich
G

RECEIVED JUL 28 1932
RECEIPT SECTION
PENSION FILES SUB-DIVISION
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[Letterhead]
The Travelers
The Travelers Insurance Company
L. F. Butler, President
Hartford, Connecticut

LIFE DEPARTMENT
EDWARD B. MORRIS, ACTUARY
ASSISTANT ACTUARIES
H. PIERSON HAMMOND
W. RULON WILLIAMSON
JAMES S. ELSTON
W. NELSON BAGLEY
JAMES E. HOSKINS

[Handwritten letter]
Bureau of Pensions
Dept of Interior
Washington D.C.
Dear Sirs - 
Several years ago somebody, probably my sister, obtained from you 9file number apparently AW. 2705-Revolutionary Records0 a statement of the military history of my great-great grandfather, Henry Tice who served under Captains John Newkirk and Henry Van K(e)uren, Colonel John Johnson, N.Y., enlisting at Peconsink, Ulster County, applied for pension Oct 2, 1832. Claim allowed. Died at Chemung 1851. His first service was as a substitute for Joseph Tice. Wife succeeded to pension in 1852.

I am trying to trace the parents of both Henry Tice and his wife Huldah Van Gorder (Van garden, Van garder etc.) and would very much appreciate any other information you can give me from the files, particularly as to where and when each of them were born, who were their parets of even brothers and sisters, and whether Henry Tice served in Sullivan's expedition as that may indicate how he came to Chemung and possibly how he met her. I am now particularly interested in Huldah Van Gorder as if I can locate her parents I may be able to trace the family several generations further
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If there is any charge for this service I will gladly meet it.
Assuring you of my appreciation of any such genealogical material you may give me, I am,
Respectfully yours,
James S. Elston