Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11154, for Jonathan Ogden, New York
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(3-1776) 

SERVICE 
New York 

Ogden, Jonathan 

NUMBER 
S.11154 

Carded 

CONTENTS
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New York 14693 
Jonathan Ogden 
Monroe in the State of N.Y. who was a private in the Company commanded Captain Gardiner of the Regt. commanded by Col. Willett in the N.Y.  line for 9 Mo. 15 days

Inscribed on the Roll of N.Y. at the rate of 31 Dollars 66 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831. 

Certificate of Pension issued the 12 day of June 1833 and sent to Pensioner, West Mendon, Monroe Co 

Arrears to the 4th of March 1833.   63.32
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept 1833  15.83
[adds to]  $79.15. 
{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by F. T. Francoise Clerk 
Book E  Vol. 4  Page 27.
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No 23893 
Jonathan Ogden Monroe County New York 

Admitted. 

9 mo. 15 days Private 


Jonathan Ogden 
[crossed out, Leonard Adams Clk] West Mendon Monroe County New York 
West Mendon
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WAR DEPARTMENT. 
Pension Office, 183 
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus:  }). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim. 
A Statement, shewing the Service of Jonathan Ogden, Monroe County New York 
[TABLE]
Period when the service was rendered.  |  Duration of the claimant's service. ┃ Rank of the claimant. ┃ Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. ┃ Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. ┃ Proof by which the declaration is supported. ┃ 
Vol. May 1780  |  4 Months. 15 Days.  |  private  |  Col Willett  Cap Gardenier  |  67 years Warrins Bush now Florida – Montgomery County New York.  |  Traditionary evidence witnesses certified credible, no clergyman & no reason given, paper correct  |
Vol. 1781  |  5 Months.  |  private  |  Cap Putman recollect Colonels Van Schaick and Gansevort.  |    |    |
[END OF TABLE]

I am, respectfully 
Your obedient servant 
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832. 
The following regulations have been adopted: 
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service. 
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law: 
1. The Regular Troops. 
2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers. 
3. Persons employed in the Naval service. 
4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record. 
DECLARATION. 
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832. 
State, Territory or District of County } ss.
On this ___ day of ___ personally appeared (a) before __ A.B. a resident (b) of ___ in the county of ___  and State, territory or District of ___  ages (c) ___ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provion made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) ___  , with ___ and served in the ___ (e) regiment of the ___ line, under the following named officers: 
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers, the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he enered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which marched. [ ]This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.] 
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of ___
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. ____ A. B. 
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. 
I _____ of the Court of ____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of ___for a pension. 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this ___ day of ___&c. 
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out. 
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
 (k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the ___ and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with ___ , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be ___ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid. 
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. ___ who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the ___ and that C.D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the ___ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit. 
I ___Clerk of the Court of ___ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the applicacation of ___ for a pension. 
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this ___ day of ___&c. 
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction. 
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person
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will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case. 
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia. 
1. Where and in what year were you born? 
2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it? 
3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?
4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom? 
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
6.  {To a Soldier} Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?}
6. {To an Officer.} Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?}
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant. 
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates. 
The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject. 
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court. 
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature. 
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter. 
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned. 
[d] The declarant must in the period or periods of the war when he served. 
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: 
“Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:--For __ year ___ months , and ___ days I served as a ___. For ___ months and ___days, I served as a ___; and for such service I claim a pension." 
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.   Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority;  that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable. 
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required. 
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case. 
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers. 
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate. 
Proof of Service. 
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant’s entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[ ] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops, The proof required by rule in note [j] applies in continental troops only.
[k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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23893 
In the matter of Jonathan Ogden of West Mendon application of a Pension

Day of March 1855  Leonard Adams Clerk
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State of New York
Monroe County  SS.  On this 28th day of March 1833 personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas and General sessions of the Peace in and for the  County of Monroe now sitting Jonathan Ogden, a resident of the town of Mendon, in the County of Monroe and State of New York, aged sixty seven years on 30th day of April next who being first duly sworn according to the law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7 1832.
That he entered the service of  the United States under the following named officers  and served as herein stated, that in the year 1780 he resided in the town or Patent of Warren's Bush now in the town of Florida Montgomery County, that in the month of May of that year he volunteered under Captain Jacob Gardinier, Lieutenant Abraham Quackenbush, that they were stationed at Fort Hunter and were employed in guarding, building and making additions to said Fort and built two blockhouses, that he was discharged that last of September having served four months and an half.
That in the year 1781 he volunteered under Captain T. Putman, either Lieutenant Garritt Putman or Garrett Newkirk has forgotten which and Sergeant Adams Storms, that he rendezvoused at Fort Hunter, the last of April or the first of May, where he was stationed to guard said Fort was discharged the last of September having served five months
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Answers to Interrogations
1st   That he was born in the town of Newtown now Half Moon in the County of Saratoga, the  30th day of April 1766.
2nd     That he has no record of his age except one made  by himself in his Bible
3rd     When called into service to resided in Warren's Bush now the town of Florida Montgomery County in 1784 or 1785 moved from Florida to the town of Unadilla ,Otsego County in the year 1797 moved from Unadilla to Victor Ontario County in the year of 1815. moved from Victor to the town of Mendon in the County of Monroe where he now resides
4th     That he volunteered
5th     That he does not recollect any Regular Officer being stationed at Fort Hunter but recollects of frequently seeing Colonel Willett who he supposed had command  of all of the troops in that quarter.  He also recollects seeing Colonels Van Schaick and Gansevort when passing up and down the river
6th     That he never received any written discharge
7th That he would refer to Abraham Avery John Sines  Eldrick Smith and Jacob Young as to his character

He further states  that he has no documentary evidence of his service and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure
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who can testify to his services 
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any State 
[signed] Johathan Ogden
Sworn and subscribed the day the year aforesaid 
[signed] J. Cutter Dep. Clerk 
We Abraham Avery and John Sines residing in the the town of Mendon in the County of Monroe hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Jonathan Ogden who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be sixty seven years of age. that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
[signed] Abraham Avery  John Sins [sic]
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid 
[signed] J. Cutter Dep. Clerk 
and the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states; and the court further certifies that it appears to them that the said Abraham Avery and John Sines who
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have signed the preceeding certificate are residents of the town of Mendon in the County of Monroe that they are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit – 
[signed] Saml Sheldon  Saml Curtle  James Smith } Judges of Monroe Common Pleas & General Sessions 

I Leonard Adams Clerk of the Court of Common pleas in and for the County of Monroe, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the Original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Jonathan Ogden for a Pension - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this thirtieth day of March 1833 – 
[signed] Leonard Adams clerk
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Rev War
11.154
INVALID. 

File No. 11,154 
Jonathan Ogden 
Pri Rev War 

Act: June 7th 32 
Index:--Vol.  A,  Page 281
[Arrangement of 1870.]

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Jan. 10/98. History to Mary O. Vaughan 899 st. San Francisco Cal.
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San Francisco Dec. 20, ‘97 
Department of the Interior 
Bureau of Pensions 
I am informed that by application to your D’pt. I can obtain information regarding soldiers of the Revolution who drew pensions. My great grand father named Ogden. I think Johnathan Ogden was a soldier of the Revolution
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and drew a pension. for some years - living to be a very old man. He enlisted I confidently believe from New York State, probably from some place near the Great Lakes. Later when an old man he lived in Canada with his son my grand father - at Port Hope for one place and perhaps others. He was I believe required to come into the States to draw his pension - all possible information recorded regarding him will be thankfully received. as some
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apparently trivial detail may and me in establishing & descent. I would also like to know the names & residences of any veteran of the Revolution drawing pension - oi any - named Odell as I may be able to trace some ancestor on the side of my paternal grand mother –
Very Truly –
(Mrs) Mary Ogden Vaughan 
899. Pine St. 
San Francisco
Cal.