Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 14737, Roger Turner, N.C.
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SERVICE  N.C.
Turner, Roger
NUMBER   S. 14737
Carded
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[Form]
Kentucky
4335
Roger Turner
of Perly in the State of Kentucky
who was a Pvt  in the Company commanded
by Captain Hern of the Regt commanded
by Col Anthony in the N. Carolina
line for 16 months from 17th
Inscribed on the Roll of Kentucky
at the rate of 53 Dollars 33 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 19th day of Jan '33
and sent Hon. R. T.
Letcher House of Rep.
Arrears to 4th of Sept 1832
Semi-anl allowance ending 4 Mar '33 
 79.99
 26.61 
= $106.66

Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by Nathan Rice, Clerk 
Book D  Vol. 9   Page 12
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Roger Turner
from private
16 months.
53.33
Hon R. P. Letcher
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[Form]
BRIEF in the case of Roger Turner
of Perry Co in the state of Kentucky
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? 
3. How old is he? 74
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period. In 17 not recol? | Duration of Service. 6 mos.| Rank. As a private| Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Gen Rutherford, N.C. May, Capt Walton
Period.  --- |Duration of Service.  2 mos.| Rank. As a private | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Capt Hern, Col Armstrong
Period.   -----| Duration of Service.  3 mos.| Rank.  As a private | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Capt Cleveland
Period. ---- | Duration of Service.  abt 14 days |Rank.  As a private| Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.  Capts Allen & Cleveland
Period   1781 | Duration of Service.  14 days | Rank.  As a private | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Capt Cleveland
Period.   1781 | Duration of Service.  1 mo. | Rank.  As a private | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Capt Cleveland
Period.   1781 | Duration of Service.  1 mo. | Rank.  As a private | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Capt Cleveland
5. In what battles was he engaged? None.
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Surry Co, N.C.
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls?    Witness & traditionary.
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Clerk has no public seal of office

[ ] Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
# 1780 /-   3 -  / pvt/  Capt Allen Col. Cleveland, 
drafted for 3 mo., so does not state how long he served.  Examining Clerk.
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State of Kentucky Perry County to wit
On this 10th day of December 1822 personally
appeared in open Court before the Justice of the
County Court of the County of Perry now setting
Roger Turner a resident of the County state aforesaid, aged Seventy four years who being first duly sworn
according to Law doth on his Oath make the following
declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act
of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States
under Captain Jesse Walton, Lieutenant Benjamin Cleveland & Ensign William Nall and served six months
under them, but the name of the Col. is not recollected;
the name however of the Col. of the County of Surry
was -- Armstrong -- that the first meeting of the Company was at Hamblins old Store about 12 or 15 miles from where Wilks Court House now is and 30 miles from Surrey Court House in the State of North Carolina.
The Company of Capt. Walton in which I served
was the first company of Volunteers in the County of
Surray; after meeting at Hamblins old Store they
marched to Salisbury, shortly after they were called
to cross Creek against the Scotch, that before this Company reached there the Battle was over & this company
stayed some time and guarded the Scotch prisoners & then
started to Wilmington with the prisoners and was relieved
by the Light Horse; from that time they were engaged
in scouring the country in search of other Tories on to
the County of Surry again, the tour of six months having expired, the company was discharged at the sd. Hamblins old store--
that his residence at the time was in the said County.
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of Surrey North Carolina; being young at the time he
cannot state the year only from calculating back - it was however some time after the commencement of the war.
That he again served a tour under Capt. Joseph Hern, Lieutenant William Lanore, & Ensign Nathaniel Flournay as a
volunteer. That the company first met where Wilkes
Court House County now is, was marched
to Owens on Reddy's River & was stationed there to
guard the settlement against the Indians. That the
same Col. Armstrong commanded the regiment to which
Capt Hern's Company belonged as he now believes, the
tour of service was as he believes at Sixty days but
a certainty he cannot say --
That the fall after he again entered the service
at the same place as before under Captain Benjamin Cleveland, Lieutenant William Lamore, & Ensign Saml Fournay and was marched to the Catawba River to a
place called the pleasant Garden after the Cherokee Indians at which place he was taken sick and was 
some time confined as he supposed to his death bed
but was sent back home by John Greer where
he recovered -- at the expiration of the tour which was for three months. He met at Whites Bottom on the Adkin River where the company was discharged &
he got his discharge also-- he states that he got
a discharge at the end of each tour but not thinking
it worthwhile to take care of them they have all
been lost.- That he afterwards served two tours of
about two weeks under Capt Rich Larken, Allen & Lieutenant Cleveland & in search of the tories on New River when Zechariah Goss was catched and hung on Capt. Cox's gate. Then
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Col. Armstrong was the commandant of the Regiment
to which Capt Cleveland Company belonged when he
was taken sick. -- Rutherford was the Genl the same trip -- at the time of the two trips on New
River Benj. Cleveland was the COL.
That he afterwards served under Capt. Jno Cleveland &
Lieutenant William Runnolds-- they met on the Yadkin River and marched from there to Guilford but before they
got there the Battle of Guilford was over, they were some time detained in scouting after the tories then returned home; that he thinks the tour must have been at least one month --shortly after there was a call for men to go Haw
River to the high rock ford after Fanning who was a
notorious man as heading the tories that he
volunteered & went on that tour. Soon after they
got there the small pox broke out among the soldier
they were sent home-- John Cleveland was the
Captain & Benj. Hern Major; he thinks the tour could not be less than one month-
He afterwards served under Col. Benj Cleveland &
Capt Richd Allen a tour of three months - the Company first met at Wilks court House,  Wilks being a new
County and was detained the several days
before enough men could be raised to go on -- then
marched into South Carolina on the way to Kings
Mountains but the Battle was over before they
reached there, they being on foot-- they met the prisoners
at the Cherokee Ford on Broad River where they
took charge of the prisoners & took them to the Moravian
town back in North Carolina at which place the compa-
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ny was discharged-
That he afterwards was drafted for three month,
and started from Wilks County under Maj. Benj Hern &
Lieutenant Runnolds being no Captain-- they met
first at Majr Lewis, were marched to the trading ford
on the Yadkin River at which place they were discharged. He further states that he was frequently called on and served several days at a time after the tories amounting as he suppose to about 20 days-
In addition of his own services he paid the15th part of two eighteen months tour to substitutes hired by his class of 15.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a
pension or annuity except the present and declares
that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency
of any State. Sworn to and subscribed the day
& year aforesaid
Roger (his mark) Turner
Also personally appeared Stephen Codell in open Court who being first duly sworn states that he lived in a few miles of the above named Roger
Turner in North Carolina all the time of the
Revolutionary War and served with him the tour of 3 months named above in his declaration on his way to Kings Mountain and knows his statements to be true & that he fully believes that he served as he has stated and that he always had the character of an upright truthful man - 
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Stephen (his mark) Codell
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We Daniel Duff a Clergyman residing in the
County of Perry & State of Kentucky and Alexander
Patrick residing in the same hereby certify that
we are well acquainted with Roger Turner
who has subscribed and sworn to the above declar-
ation; that we believe him to be Seventy four years
of age; that he is reputed and believed in the
neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in
that opinion Sworn and subscribed the day and
year aforesaid.
Daniel Duff
Alexander Patrick
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion
after the investigation of the matter and after putting
the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department
that the above named applicant was a Revolution-
ary soldier and served as he states, And the Court
further certifies that it appears to them that Danl
Duff who has signed the preceding certificate is a
Clergyman resident in the County of Perry and State of Kentucky and that Alexander Patrick who has also
signed the same is a resident in the same County & State
and is a credible person and that their statement is
entitled to credit
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Jesse Combs Clerk of the County Court of Perry
County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said
Court in the matter of the application of
for a Pension in testimony
whereof I have hereunto set my hand and
affixed my private seal there being no seal
of office this 10th day of December 1832
(seal)  Jesse Combs Clk
I know Jesse Combs to be the Clerk of
of the County & Circuit Court of Perry Co.
KY, and also the above signature to be
genuine. 
17th January 1833    R. Plotkin
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February 3, 1939.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Mrs. J. Howard Cockrell
511 W. High Street,
Mt. Sterling, Kentucky.

BA - J / 111 / C
Roger Turner
S. 14737

Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request
the Revolutionary War record of Roger Turner, of Wilkes
County, North Carolina.
The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers
on file in pension claim S. 14737, based upon his service
in the Revolutionary War.
Roger Turner, while a resident of Surry County, North Carolina,  enlisted and served as a private in the North Carolina troops as follows: from about the time of the battle of
Gross Creek, six months in Captain Jesse Welton's company,
the first company of volunteers from Surry County, North Carolina; two months in Captain Joseph Hern's company, Colonel Armstrong's regiment; the fall after three months in Captain Benjamin Cleveland's company, Colonel Armstrong's regiment;
one month in Captain Richard Allen's company, Colonel Benjamin
Cleveland's regiment; in 1780, three months in Captain Richard
Allen's company, Colonel Benjamin Cleveland's regiment; in 1781,
one month in Captain John Cleveland's company, after this one
month in Captain John Cleveland's company, after this one month in Captain John Cleveland's company, later three months under Lieutenant Rannolds and Major Benjamin Hern, and after this, at various
times, amounting to twenty days, officers names not given.
He was allowed pension on his application executed December
10, 1832, while a resident of Perry County, Kentucky. He was then
seventy-four years of age.
There are no data relative to his family in the papers in
this claim.
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In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension,
the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of
death of Roger Turner, you should address the Comptroller
General, General Accounting office this city, and cite the
following:

Roger Turner
Certificate #4335
Issued January 19, 1833
Rate $55.55 per annum
Commenced March 4, 1831
Act of June 7, 1832
Kentucky Agency

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator.
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[Form] 
BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which these
answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of
Roger Turner   which require further proof or explanation.
1. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension
he is entitled?  No
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
No
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary
service?
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
If the applicant has produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, has the magistrate who
administered the oath certified that he, she, or they are persons of credibility?
Has the official character and signature of the magistrate been certified by the proper officer under
his seal of office?
Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age,
as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And,
if not, which of them is not so answered?
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EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how
long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he
cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his 
recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For___
year  _____months and ____ days, I served as a __________. For _______ months and ________ days, I served as a 
__________; and for such service I claim a pension."
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It is important in all cases to determine with precise the period for which the applicant served,
and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of
the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too
indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.
QUERE XIV. proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he
must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits
the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as
well as the regiment, company, and line to which be belonged. The magistrate who may adminis-
ter the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature
of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticated the papers is not
written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the
certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the end of which must
pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being im-
properly attached to the certificate.
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I know Roger Turner, the within named applicant
to be a man of good character, a
high standing in his neighbourhood
know Daniel Duff & A. Patrick,
two of his witnesses, to be men of high
and good character.
R. P. Letcher
17th January 1833

Sidebar:
Rodger Turner
Declaration
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[Form]
[Left side]
1918 May 3 Hist to Mrs. Henry H. King
Letter in W. F. 8841 Jas. Galloman
1921 Feby 26 Hist to Mrs. E. H. Ray
1831. Dec. Hist. to Sudie Smith. [  ]
1939 - Lib 3 Head to Mrs. J.  Howard
Cockrell cc
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[Right side]
14737
INVALID
File No. 14.737
Roger Turner ┃
Priv. Rev War
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Act: June 7th 1832.
Index: --Vol. 1, Page 381
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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[Letter]
Top right: Rev War Pri

MRS. EUGENE H. RAY
DOC WEISSINGER
LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY

January 26, 1922.
Department of the Interior,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington D.C.

My dear Sir;
Will you kindly send me what you have of one Roger Turner, Rev.
Soldier living in Breathitt Co. KY in 1840, and drawing a Pension.
Please give me all you possibly can on this name.
Thanking you in advance, I am

Sincerely
Mrs E. H. Ray

Mrs. Eugene H. Ray.
# 306 Weissinger
Louisville Ky.

[Stamps]
(JAN 30 1922 )   (JAN 31 1922)
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[LETTER]
Rev

Frankfort, Kentucky
Box 45.
November 19, 1971.

To the Commissioner,
To the Veterans Administration,
U. S. Pension Dept.
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:
ROGER TURNER, N.C. Militia.
Rev. Pensioner, Perry Co, Ky.

     I am anxious to join the D.A.R.
on my Turner line, and for this reason would
like to secure the pension record of my Turner
ancestor who was in the Revolutionary war, and
secured a pension while residing in Perry County
Kentucky. His age is not given in your pension
book. He secured pension 3-4-1831, and the other
date is 1-19-1833. He had an annual allowance
of $53.33 and Rec. 159. 99.
Hoping that you can supply me with
some information, so that I can get my line straight
on this ancestor, also please advise the number of
pages in his pension papers, if I should have to
have a photostat copy.
Sincerely,
SUDIE SMITH.

(Stamped Received Nov  21 1931  Receipt Secion PENSION FILES SUB-DIVISION)
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[LETTER]

Mrs. J. H. COCKRELL
511 High Street  MT. STERLING, KY.
Jan. 2, 1939.
Dear Sir:-
Please send me a certified
copy of Roger Turner's (Revolutionary
Soldier) War record.
The said Roger Turner lived at
Mulberry Ford, on the middle
fork of Roaring River, Wilkes
Co., No. Carolina.

Yours truly,
Mrs. J. Howard Cockrell
511 W. High St.
Mt. Sterling, Ky
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[Letter]

December 15, 1931.
BA-J/ILL

Sudie Smith
Box 45
Frankfort, Kentucky.

Dear Madam:

     Reference is made to your letter relative to Roger Turner, a
Revolutionary War pensioner.
     The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers on file
in pension claim, S. 14737, based upon his service in the Revolution.
     Roger Turner, while a resident of Surry County, North Carolina,
enlisted and served as a private in the North Carolina troops as follows:
from about the time of the battle of Cross Creek, six months in Captain
Jesse Walton's Company, the first company of volunteers from Surry County,
North Carolina; two months in Captain Joseph Hern's Company, Colonel
Armstrong's Regiment; the fall after three months in Captain Benjamin
Cleveland's Company, Colonel Armstrong's Regiment; one month in Captain
Richard Allen's Company, Colonel Benjamin Cleveland's Regiment; in 1780,
three months in Captain Richard Allen's Company, Colonel Benjamin Cleveland's
Regiment; in 1781, one month in Captain John Cleveland's Company,
after this one month in Captain John Cleveland's Company, later three
months under Lieutenant Rannolds and Major Benjamin Hern, and after this,
at various times, amounting to twenty days, officers names not given.
     He was allowed pension on his application executed December 10,
1832, while a resident of Perry County, Kentucky. He was then seventy-
four years of age.
     There are no data relative to his family in the papers in this
claim.

Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER,
Assistant to Administrator.
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[Form]
[Page folded down] [ ] SECTION.     3 -- 525
                                         DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
                                                 BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
                                                      Washington, D. C. , _______________, 19_______      

S. F. 14787
_____________
________________

________________

In reply to your request of _______________, received _______________
for a statement of the military history of ___Roger Turner___
a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
mation as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension
on file in this Bureau.
________________________________________
1. DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. *  1776 | LENGTH OF SERVICE. 6 mos. | RANK. Pvt. | OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. Jesse Walton COLONEL.  1st Co. Surry Co. Vols. | STATE.  NC.
2. DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.   - | LENGTH OF SERVICE. 2 mos. ? | RANK. ___ | OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. Joseph Hern. COLONEL.  ___ Armstrong. | STATE. 
3. DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  Fall after - | LENGTH OF SERVICE. 3 mos. | RANK. ___ | OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. Benjamin Cleveland. COLONEL.  ___ Armstrong. | STATE. 
4. DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  [check] | LENGTH OF SERVICE. 1 mo. | RANK. ___ | OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. Richard Allen. COLONEL. Benjamin Cleveland. | STATE. 
5. DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  1780, 1781 | LENGTH OF SERVICE. 3 mos., 1 mo. | RANK. ___ | OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. Richard Allen. John Cleveland. COLONEL. Benjamin Cleveland. | STATE. 
6. DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.  [check] | LENGTH OF SERVICE. 1 mo., 3 mos. | RANK. ___ | OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. CAPTAIN. John Cleveland. Lieut Rannolds. COLONEL. Major Benjamin Hern. | STATE. 
[Check] \ 20 days, at various times, no officer given

Battles engaged in, ______________________________________
Residence of soldier at enlistment,    ____ Surry County, N.C.___
Date of application for pension,  _____ Dec. 10, 1832___His cl. was al. _________
Residence at date of application,  ____Perry County, Ky.  __________________
Age at date of application,  _____ 74 years._______
Remarks: ____ No data on file as to his family.___________________
________
________
________

Respectfully,              
Commissioner.

* Year of battle of Cross Creek
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[Letter]

IN REPLY REFER TO
Rev. War Section.
3 -- 1864

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
WASHINGTON
September 21, 1920.

Mrs. W. H. Ray,
300 Weissinger,
Louisville, Ky.

Madam:
In response to your letter received August 3, 1820, you
are advised that in the Revolutionary War claim of Roger Turner,
14737, the pension was paid to claimant only,
there being no evidence on file, that there was any claim for
arrears.
Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.