Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 10,776, John Guthrie, N.C.
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(3-1776)

Service
N.C. 

Guthrie, John

Number S.10.776

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10.776
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No. 10,776

John Guthrie

Pri W S Army

Act: 

Index: - Vol: A, Page 154

[Arrangement of 1870.]

(name/word in upper left margin may be "Revstram")
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J. L. Edwards esquire
war department
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Mr. Walker respectfully requests Mr. Edwards, if within his convenience, to attend and Report on the papers of John Guthrie = an invalid pensioner of Buncombe County (formerly of Georgia) papers filed in your office by himself with others pensioner, the decision on which he has had the -Honor to Revue [review]
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John Guthrey Isaac Baliz
The Revolutionary [word unknown]
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War Department
Pensioners Office
January 10th 1820

Sir, In reply to your note of this morning, I have to inform you that it will be necessary for John Guthrie, whose name is in the roll of invalid pensioners for this Georgia agency to go before a Magistrate of the Town or County in which he resides and make an affidavit that it is his intention to remain permanently in North Carolina and requesting to be transferred to the roll of that State. He will also have to state his rank, his company regiment in which he served, what amount of pension he has received per month, and the time at which his name was first placed on the list of the U.S. Pensioners. The official Character and Signature of the Magistrate must be certified to by the Clerk of the County whose Seal of Office must be attached to his certificate. It is presumed that the difficulty existing to Isaac Balez being paid the pension due him by the Agent, from him not having a certificate of pensions. Should this be the case and he will make an affidavit similar to that required in the case of John Guthrie except much as relates to the transfer and have it authenticated in the same manner a Certificate will be issued n his favor on the reception of the Evidence in this Office.
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The papers relating to the application for pension under under the Law of the 18th of March 1818 will be taken up in order according to the Date of applications in the office and the result duly communicated to you. -

I am respectfully
Your Obed't Serv't
J. L. Edwards
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Georgia
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John Guthrie, app for formal certificate - private Army of the U. States [superscript star symbol]

Enriched @ 2 50$ [the 50 is superscript and underlined] increase to 4$ under Act of 24 April , 1816

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[Illegible] Certificate sent to Hon ble [ble is superscript] Freeman [illegible] Senate January [illegible] 1821.

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Agent directed to pay J. Guthrie from the time which he was [illegible] paid [illegible] : 4 Mar 1806 ace letter to him dated 18th September 1821. --


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N. [superscript star symbole] C. Line. 
Apr. 17, 1905
Records corrected.
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Respective and Deare Sir Mr I. L. Edwards
in anser to your directions sent me by the friendly hand of the honred felix Walker Member of Congres  I John Guthree do hereby comply with your injuctions as Nearely as my memmory and abillity Can Do
1st as to my living permanently in North Carolina I have no thought Ever to remove from the plase I now live on in Buncombe County NoCarolina
2nd and as to being transforde from Geogia to North Carolina I do not no any advantage I could have by it Tis as far for me to go or send to LayetsVill in N.Carolina as to go to Savanah in Georgia Therefore I submit that part to your own judgment to transfore me or not  my only petition is to have a certificate authorising me to Draw my pencian whare you may plese to Direct and the agents thare notifide that no disappintments may happen to my Cast and legs
3rd The Rank I listed in was a private or Comon Soldier Agreable to a act of the assembly of No Carolina pased in September 1780 that Every tenth man throughout the state that was not otherways exempted by law should list or be Drafted and to serve as Regular Soldiers for Twelve Month and as I had worked for three years before that in a standing armory near Halafax Town in No. Carolina I was persuaded by Nicolous Long Quater Master General for the State of No. Carolina and General Sumner who was to have the command of all these men when they had to turnout as one tenth man and serve my twelve month in this above stated U.S Armory which accordingly I inlisted and was Directed and Cent by General Sumner to work in this factory and was not plased in any other company or regiment whare I served an armer in the United States armourry until I was wounded which hapened seventh Day of May 1781 at that time the British [word missing] was martching rappidly through No.Carolina & aiming to git to petersburge in Virginia  I was that Day Sent out by Colonal William Linton to Spy out there movements and unfortunately fell in the hands of toltons   Coure of horse and shot throug
4th The amount of pecion I have receved has bin only two Dollars per month
5th and as to the adzact time I was plased on the united pentian list I cannot say This I no that I first applide on the tenth Day of January 1795 and on that Day was Examoned both myself and wounds by Dockter Murrey & Docter Dirand the two men appinted by Judg penoleton and two days after I brought in my witnesses of Discharge and was noted then as a pentioner but what time I was in rold in the pension office I no not But this I remember The Comishaners sade I aught to Draw half pay as long as I live But when they made out the papers for myself & Capt. James Lewis & others they Neglected to set what pensian we should Draw for month or year and cent on the paper to the war office and the papers was cent back Directing the Commishoner to set what pention we should Draw and the (as they sade) supposed whole pension ment whole pay & half pension half pay and set me to have half pensean only This also I no that on the first of october 1795 I applide and got my certificate Commishoners - and the firs cents of pensean I Ever Drew was from Mr. Richard Willy in the March 1801 and then Drawed from the fourth of September 1798 and the second and last time I Drawed from Mr. James algear on the fourth of September 1802 Which in all makes only foure yearse & then Mr. algear kept back three monts pay I Drew only [Nignty] Dollars in all first and last - my pensean was so small that it was not worth applyin for onse in two or three yearse my pention is Now Due me from the fourth Day of September 1802 Thats Eighteen years the 4th of September lost and three months was kept back
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Respective and Deare SS- Mr J. L. Edwards
in anser [sic] to your directions sent me by the friendly hand of the honred [sic] felix Walker Member of Congres [sic]  I John Guthree do hereby comply with your injunctions as Nearely  [sic] as my memmory [sic] and abillity [sic] Can Do
1st as to my living permanently in North Carolina I have no thought Ever to remove from the plase [sic] I now live on in Buncombe County No. Carolina
2nd and as to being transforde [transferred] from Georgia to North Carolina I do not no [know] any advantage I could have by it Tis as far for me to go or send to Layets Vill in N.Carolina as to go to Savanah in Georgia Therefore I submit that parte [sic] to your own judgment to transfore [transfer] me or not  my only petition is to have a certificate authorising me to Draw my pencian ]sic] whare [where] you may plese [please] to Direct and the agents thare [there] notifide [notified] that no disappointment may happen to my Cost and loss
3rd The Rank I listed in was a private or Comon [common] Soldier Agreable [sic] to a act of the assembly of No Carolina pased [passed] in September 1780 that Every tenth man throughout the state that was not otherways [otherwise] exempted by law should list or be Drafted and to serve as Regular Soldiers for Twelve Month and as I had worked for three years before that in a standing armory near Halafax Town in No. Carolina I was persuaded by Nicolous Long Quater [quarter]Master General for the State of No. Carolina and General Sumner who was to have the command of all these men when they had to turnout as one tenth man and serve my twelve month in this above stated U.S Armory which accordingly I inlisted and was Directed and Cent [sent] by General Sumner to work in this factory and was not plased [placed] in any other company or regiment whare I served an armer in the United States armourry [armory] until I was wounded which hapened sic] seventh Day of May 1781 at that time the British troops was martching [sic] rappidly ]sic] through No.Carolina & aiming to git [get] to petersburge in Virginia  I was that Day Sent out by Colonal [sic]William Linton to Spy out there movements and unfortunately fell in the hands of toltons Coure of horse and shot throug [through]
4th The amount of pecion ]pension] I have receved  [sic]has bin ]been] only two Dollars per month
5th and as to the adzact [exact] time I was plased [placed] on the united pentian [pension] list I cannot say This I no [know] that I first applide [sic] on the tenth Day of January 1795 and on that Day was Examoned [sic[ both myself and wounded by Dockter [sic] Murray and Docter [sic] Dizard the two Men appented [sppointed] by Judg [sic] pendleton and two Days after I brought in my Witnesses at Discharge and was Noted then as a pentioner [sic] But what  times was in Rold [enrolled] in the pension office I no [know] not But this I Remember The Comishoners [commissioners] sade [said] I aught to Draw half pay as long as I live But when they made out the papers for myself and Capt. James Lewis and others they Neglected to set what pencion we should Draw for month or years and Cent [sent] on the paper to the War office and the papers was Cent [sent] back Directing the Commishoner [commissioner] to set what pention we should Draw and they [as they sade{said}] supposed whole pension mint [meant] whole pay and half pension half pay and set me to have half pensean ]pension] That also I no [know] that on the first of October 1795 I applide [applied] and Got my certificate from the Commisohoners [commissioners]--and the firs [first] Cent of pension I Ever Drew was from Mr. Richard Willy in the March 1801 and then Drawed from the forth of September 1798 and the Second and last time I Drawed from Mr. James Olgear on the fourth of September 1802 Which in all Makes only foure yearse [four years] and then Mr. Olgear kept back three monts [months] pay I Drew only Negntee [ninety[ Dollars in all first and last- my pensean ]pension] was So Small that it was Not worth applyen [applying] for onse once] in two or three yearse [years]. 
My pention [sic] is Now Due me from the fourth day of September  1802 
Thats Eighteen years the 4th of September last and three months was kept Back
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and furder this deponent saith not sworn to substand
antety Before me this 16 day of October 1820
John Guthrie
Baird
State of Carolina
Buncombe County
I John
Miller Clerk of the County
Court of pleas & Quarter Sessions for the county aforesaid
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do hereby certify Zabulon Baird Esqr attested the foregoing
affidavit is now and has been for years past
lawful acreing
a Justice of the peace for said
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County duly authorised & commissioned and
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that as such due faith and credit is due to
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All
his Official acts as
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in testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand &
affixed the public seal of my
Office
Allott
County aforesaid this 17th day of
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R. E. Here
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M3 if any should ask why I have neglected so long before I applide [applied] for the Ballance [sic] of what pension is Due to me I honestly answer them whilst I lived in Georgia only 150 miles from Savanah I applide [illeg.] for my pension by power of attorneys and Drew Nothin [nothing] and the third time I went my self and drue [sic] some money and being sickly in Georgia I went to move up to the mountains in No. Carolina where I now live and went first to Savanah thinking to draw what pention [sic] was then Due But found agin [again] no thare [there] he had gone a journey I waited  4 dase [days] & went home  Then I went again & drue [sic] for the last time being the 4th of September 1802 which made five Times  I Cent [sent] went only to draw Ninety Dollars which when I counted up my expenses and loss of time I did not draw a nough [enough] to pay expenses I owe.  I am 201 miles further off provided no accident should happen nor Disappearment  I could not draw anuf [enough] in three years to pay expenses so I have let it run on until now and being now olde [Crosy?] & sickly if I can draw what is my due with small expenses it would be of serves [service] in old age  Tho a person of property would hardly trouble them selve [themselves] for the trifle that coming if it ever dose come  it cannot come two soone [too soon] for my  neceseseity [necessity]
From John Guthrie to any enquiring friend