Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 11,557, for Joseph Tickner, New York
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Service                                       Number
New York     Tickner, Joseph      S.11.557

                                                             carded
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          13.067
Joseph Tickner
Cayuga Co. New York

Admitted
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10 mo. 1 day Private






EW Bateman
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BRIEF in the case of Joseph Tickner
     of Cayuga Co. in the State of N York
                           (Act 7th June, 1832)

1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge?   ?? in Court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?

3. How old is he?  76 years

4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 

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Period            |    Duration of Service   |     Rank  | Names of General and Field  Officers
                      |                                      |               |  under whom he served
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                           Years, Months, Days  | As a       | 
1 June In 1776 |             6  ---               | Private   |  Capt Spencer Col Van Dyke
 S?????    1777 [?] |          1---        5      | Private  |  Capt Gervet  Col Ford
 Fall         1778 |               1                    | Private  | Capt Gervet    Col Ford
 June        1779 |              1            12    | Private  | Capt Holly       Col Favre
 Fall          1779|                              14   | Private  |

5. In what battles was he engaged? None
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Columbia Co. N York
7. Is his statement support by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by
   by incidental evidence or by the rolls?  F?? a ??tionary
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct

      * Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above
mentioned.


                                                                                                        { Nichnd Cutte ?}
                                                                                                        Examining Clerk.
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                                                          14030
3067    New York
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  Joseph Tickner
Cayuga Co in the State of New York who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Spencer of the regiment comanded by Col Ford in the U.S. ma
?? for 10 mo 1 day,


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Inscribed on the Roll of New York the rate o 33 Dollars 44 Cents per annum
commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
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Certificate of Pension issued the 5 day of May 1833
and sent to 
E.W. Bateman Venice
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Arrears to the 4th of March 1833               $66.88
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 September    16.72
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                                                                      $83.60
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                                               {Revolutionary Claim, }
                                               {Act June 7, 1832        }
Recorded by W.L. Williams Clerk,
Book E   Vol. 4 Page 32
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13.067 
Joseph Tickner
Declaration 
Venice Cayuga Co.
N. York 

Communications relating to the within to be directed to E. W. Bateman 
Venice Cayuga Co. N. York 

Admitted – 10m. 1 day Private 

paid
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State of New York }
County of Cayuga }  SS

     On this twenty fourth day of September 1832 personally appeared in open court  before the court of Common Pleas now sitting Joseph Tickkner a resident of the townof Venice in the said county aged seventy-six years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. That he resided in the town of [illegible] now [illegible] county of Columbia in  State of New York during the revolutionary war: that some time about the last of May or the first of June 1776 he enlisted in the New York State Troops for six months, under Capt. James Spencer, Thomas Brown Lieut; Mathew Ray [illegible] that he served in the regiment commanded by Col. Van Dyke General Schyler commanded the Army; that he went to Lake George and thence to fort Ann; that they remained there until about six weeks before the expiration of the terms of enlistment when they marched back to the lake again, remained there until his time was [illegible] ; was then dismissed.

That some time in the summer of 1777 (he believes in August) the militia company which he belonged to were called out, that they went to Fort Edward remained there about two weeks when he with one half of the ompany were allowed to go home to harves their wheat, when he had finished his whet harvest he returned to his company which was then at Saratoga in the East side of the river, Capt. Graves was his capt. Bob Ford commandant that he knew General Gates, and Arnold, which the Americans were engaged with Burgoyne's forces his regiment was ordered to cross the river as a reinforcement, when it had arrived on the battle ground and were marching up to the enemy the flag was raised in token of a cessation of fighting; that after Burgoyne surrendered he was dismissed having been there in the whole about five weeks. That he was called out again in the fall of 1778, (thinks it was in Oct.) that the company were ordered to Greenbush, then to Albany, marched five miles up the river then were ordered back to Albany again, the next day went in pursuit of tories to the Hellibarrack then to
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Kaatskill Mountains where they found a party of tories and took them after scouring the country and taking more than thirty tories they returned to Albany (think the whole Brigade were called out) that the militia separated into small parties to search for tories; that he was out about one month, and then was marched home; that the same officers commanded as in the last campaign.
That he was called out again about the first of June 1779 and Capt Holley or Hawley, Lieut Heath, Col Ford; that he went to Cherry Valley to guard the fort that while he was there the Indians and tories came to Springfield, that he went with the forces stationed in the fort to drive them off, when he got there the Indians had taken the men prisoners, and drove off the cattle of the inhabitants that the company pursued on the trail, the Oneidas actin in concert with his party, ambushed the hostile Indians and fired upon them and killed 17 of them, the rest made their escape with their prisoners, that his party then returned with the cattle that had been drove off, and having been out about six weeks he was dismissed
That he was called out again in the fall of the same year (he cannot state the time) that he went to Albany where they got ammunition and provision then went up the Mohawk river to oppose the Indians and tories that they had an engagement with the Indians having nearly surrounded them, that they fired a few rounds only when the Indians broke through the Americans and escaped the engagement was near the hous of Esq Fundy, that he was out about two weeks and then the company returned home. That he was called out on alarms a number of times not above described but returned so soon that he does not think it avisable to state particularly the different times, that his company were in constant readiness to turn out that he was subject to the orders of the commanding officers and that he did in obedience to their orders turn out on cases of emergency sometimes being dismissed in two days and sometimes being retained a number of days
That he has served, reckoning only the terms above described ten months and about one week
That he has no documentary evidence and that he
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knows of no person whose testimony he can procure that he rendered such service
He hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State
Sworn to and subscribed}
the day and year aforesaid}     Joseph Tickner

We Samuel M. Plumb a clergyman residing in the town of Fleming and Ezra W. Bateman residing the the town of Venice and county aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joseph Tickner who has sworn to and subscribed the preceding Declaration; that we believe him to be 76 years of age; that heis respected and believed in the neighborhood wher he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and the we concur in that opinion
Sworn to and subscribed  }  Samuel M. Plumb
the day and year aforesaid } Ezra W. Bateman

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatidie prescribed by the War Department, that the abovenamed appliant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states, and the Court further certify that Samuel M. Plumb who has signed the preceding crtificate is a clergyman resident in the town of Fleming and that Ezra W. Bateman who has also signed the above certificate is a resident of the town of Venice and that he is a credible person and that their statement is [illegible] to credit

I Michael S. Meyers Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Cayuga and State of New York do ccertify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said curt in the matter of the application of Joseph Tickner for a pension. Witness my hand and seal of office this twenty fourth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two

                                        M.S. Meyers
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Rev War [handwritten on side margin]
11557
INVALID
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File No. 11,557
Joseph Tickner
Priv. Rev. War

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Act June 7th 1832

Index: - Vol. A, Page 375

[Arrangement of 1870]
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Joseph Tickner
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Joseph Tickner Cayuga Co. N York which require further proof of explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declartion in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes

V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?  Yes

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?  Yes

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?  Yes

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Yes

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least on living witness had he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? Yes

XIV. +If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
   If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? Yes
   Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? Yes

XV.  Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?

XVI. ++ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily?  And, if not, which of them is not so answered?  1 2 5 7

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                EXPLANATORY NOTES.

*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: ..Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace &c. A.B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For________year________months, and_____days, I served as a __________ For_______months and __________days, I served as a __________________; and for such service I claim a pension.
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   It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served for two years in the militia, &c. without spcifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in a garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.

+QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
   In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

++QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
   In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
   [image of a pointing finger]In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.