Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 7859, for Jacob Idol, North Carolina
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SERVICE      NC      
                                                                                                      
         Idol, Jacob                                                      
                 Cloy   

NUMBER      W.  7859                                                    B L Wt  26839-160-55
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     6240
North Carolina,  Fayetteville
Cloy Idol
widow of Jacob Idol
North Carolina Line

who served in the Revolutionary
war, as a   Private
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of
23  Dollars 33
Cents per annum, to commence on
the [scratched out: 4th day of March 1848]
21st January 1857
Certificate of Pension issued the
17th day of April 1854
and sent to Elisha Smith
Salem
N.C.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
February 2, 1848, Page 217 Vol. 32
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Cloy
         [sideways:  No  26839  iss.  May 24 /36]
Cloy Idol
wid of Jacob
         Private
Capt
Col
Enl
Dis
Revolutionary War
Receives a Pension
N C  Feb 18  6240
[illegible]  160 acr ,a  20156
[signature illegible]
Elisha Smith
Danbury 
NC

[right hand side:  Civ  E Smith  Nov 22/55
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State of North Carolina
County of Forsythe     On this the 10th day of
November A.D. Eighteen hundred and fifty three personally appeared before me a Justice of the peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, Matthias Idol aged eighty years, resident of Davidson County in the State aforesaid who being duly sworn according to Law doth on oath state that he was well acquainted with Jacob Idol and wife Clory (who was a Revolutionary pensioner of the United States), and with their children, one of whom was born on or about the fifth day of January AD Seventeen hundred and Eighty four and he further States that he knows that one of Jacob Idols Children was born at the time before stated because he lived Close by the said Jacob Idol and wife Clory at the time said child was born, and by reference to the dates of the births of his own children – time when he was married which are of record he can ascertain when said child was born and he says he can give the ages of other children of said Jacob & Clory Idols. if its necessary
Wm Rapon     ……….              Mathias Idol

G Smith
 
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written before me. And I certify that said
affiant above is a creditable person
                                  Joab Teague  J P
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State of North Carolina
County of Forsyth      I,    A. J  Stafford Clerk
of the Court of pleas and Quarter Sessions for Forsyth County aforesaid. Certify that
Joab Teague whose name appears to the forgoing affidavit was at the time of signing the
the same an acting Justice of the peace for said County, duly Commission and
Qualified as such he had authority to administer oaths for general purposes
and the foregoing signature purporting to be his is genuine
                               In testimony whereof I have
                               hereunto set my hand and affixed
                                    the seal of said Court at office
                              in Winston
This the 3 day of January 1.854
A.	J Stafford Clk
[bottom left, sideways:
Address, Elisha Smith as before]

[sideways right   Cloy Idol}
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State of North Carolina
County of Forsythe                    On this the 29 day of March A D Eighteen hundred and fifty five personally appeared before me a Justice of the peace within and for the County and State aforesaid, Cloy Idol aged about Ninety three years a resident of the County of Forsythe in the State of North Carolina who being duly sworn according to law declares that she is the widow of Jacob Idol deceased who was a____________in a company commanded by Captain ___________________in the Regiment of _________________ commanded by Col ________________________ in the war of the Revolution. That for the proofs of her said husband service in said war she refers the Commissioner of Pension to her papers on file in Washington D.C. on which she has been allowed a pension and to her pension certificate which is on record in the pension office at Washington D.C in Vol _______ 
She further states that she was married to the said Jacob Idol in the County of Stokes in the
State of North Carolina in or about the ___________  day of _____________AD. 1784 by one Henry Davis a Justice of the Peace and that her name before her said marriage was Cloy Johnson.  that her said husband died in the County of Forsythe in the State of North Carolina on or about the 21 day of January A.D. 1851 and that she is now a Widow
She makes this declaration for the purposes of obtaining the bounty land to which she is entitled under the act approved March the 3d 1855
Sarah Idol
Wm Raper    
  ………     her
                                         Cloy X  Idol
			mark
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   ……….          for they reared a family of Children who are believed to be legittimat and that said
Cloy Idol is still a widow
                                                     Sarah Idol
                                                 Wm Raper
Sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written and I certify that said affiants are creditable persons
                                                                   Joab Teague  JP
State of North Carolina
Forsyth County 

I, A. J  Stafford Clerk of the Court of Pleas and quarter session in & for the State & County aforesaid do hereby certify that Joab League is and was at the time of signing the foregoing certificate an acting Justice of the peace for said County & State duly commissioned and qualified and the above Signature
is genuine and entitled to full faith and credit as such
In testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand & affixed
the seal of said Court the 11th
day of April 1855
 
A. J.  Stafford

address Elisha Smith
Danbury
Stokes County
NC
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We, Sarah Idol and Wm Raper residents of the County of Davidson & Forsythe in the State of
North Carolina upon our oath declare that the foregoing declaration was signed and
acknowledged by Cloy Idol in our presence and he believe from the appearance and Statements of
the appicant that she is the person identical person she represents herself to be

Sarah Idol
Wm Raper
the forgoing declaration and affidavit were sworn to and subscribed before me the day and
year above written and I certify that I know the affiants to be creditable persons and that
Claimant is the person she represents herself to be and that I have not interest in this Claim
                                                                                                         Joab Teague  JP
 
State of North Carolina
County of Forsythe  on the 29 day of March AD 1855 personally appeared before me a Justice
of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid Sarah Idol & Wm Raper resident
of the County of Davidson & Forsythe in State of North Carolina who being duly sworn according to
law declare that they were well acquainted with Cloy  Idol in the life time of her husband Jacob Idol. that they lived together as man and wife for many years and here so reputed to be up to the time of the death of the said Jacob Idol the husband of the said Clay Idol and that he died about the 21 day of January 1851 the legally of whose married was never questioned
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Application of
Jacob Idol
From Stokes NC
for a pension

March 14. 1833

E Thober  [illegible]
Salem NC
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Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 1832

State of North Carolina
County of Stokes    On this 14 day of March 1833 personally appeared in open court, before the Justices of the Court of pleas and Quarter Sessions [scratched out: now sitting] for the County of Stoke now sitting Jacob Idol a resident in the County of Stokes and State of North Carolina aged about seventy one years, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath  make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed 7 June 1832, 
That he  entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated
He states first that as well as he can recollect he was born in the year 1761 in Bucks County State of Pensylvania that he has no record of his age, that when he was called into service, he lived in the County of Rowan (now Davidson) that shortly after his service he moved across the line to the County of Stokes where he has lived ever since, he states that he served several tours in the Militia each time as a volunteer that he entered
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entered the service the first time in the year one Thousand Eight Hundred & Eighty one
for three months, in a company of mounted Light Infantry, commanded by Capt James Bellingsly, William Davis Lieutenant, that whilst in this service he never was drawn to the main army and was employed with his company in marching about through the County to keep the tories in check and at
the end of three months received a discharge, having acted this tour as corporal.
About the time the British marched from South Carolina, toward the battle ground of Guilford was
again called out as a private under Capt William Davis to keep the Tories in awe and to observe
them, when he was taken prisoner by the [scratched out British] Tories and handed over to the British
and carried below Guilford Court House, and at the time of the battle was marched with the guard
and baggage toward Center [illegible - ? ?Makery Town??]  in said County, within sound of the
cannon, when the news came that the British had gained the day they were turned again Guilford C H. and whilst on the march in the night, he and several others prisoner broke ground and departed and went home which service [scratched out: last]  & imprisonment lasted one one month at least.
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in the year of One Thousand Eight Hundred & Eight one he volunteered again in a company of
mounted light Infantry commanded by Capt Lopp, Lieutenant Bodenhamer and marched towards Wilmington and on the march scattered the tories at the Raft Swamp, that they marched to near the
mouth of Cape Fear River, where they made an attack on the Brick House occupied by a British garrison, then marched towards Geo Town SC and back the Brick House, and lay in the neighhood until the news arrived that Cornwallis was taken when he was marched home and was discharged, that from the service of each tour in writing which discharges he has lost, he states that in this last tour he acted as as first Sargent or orderly.
He states in this last tour his company marched with a regiment comanded by Col Smith, of the other companies along, he recollects one from Guilford County composed of 30 or 40 dragoons under the
command of Capt Gillespies and recollects that a Capt Kennedy was along with his company. that the regiment was composed of about five hundred men. that in no part of his service he was attached
to any corps commanded by any regular officer, he states that he has no documentary evidence of his services and that he knows of no person in the County whose
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whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service, except the testimony of Daniel Motsinger whose affidavit is hereunto appended, & who cannot come to this Court on account of infirmity, and whose testifies as to the  first tour and the testimony of Samuel Jackson herein appended
who testifies to the last two tours
He states that in his neighborhood he is known to John Henly and Robson Stafford who can testify to his character for veracity and their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution
that in all his tours  he served seven months at least
 
He hereby relinquishes every claim to a pension [scratched out: whatever] or annuity whatever except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension role of the agency of any State
Sworn and subscribed
the day and year aforesaid
       Jno.  Hill                  ………………. his
			      Jacob    x   Idol
				mark
 
We John Henly & Robson Stafford residing in the County of Stokes hereby certify that
we are well acquainted with Jacob Idol who has subscribed and sworn to the above Declaration, and
that we believe him to be seventy one years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood
where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion
---
Sworn in open Court
day & year aforesaid
Jno  Hill
           ……             John Henley
 ……………………………    his
……………………..Robson  X   Stafford
…………………………………..mark

Samuel Jackson came into open Court and made oath that he is well acquainted with Jacob Idol
that he served with him during the revolutionary war.  that he was with him on duty in the same
  company when he and affiant was taken prisoners commanded by Capt Davis which service lasted  at least one month - that he was likewise with him in in the
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in the last tour towards Wilmington in the compay commanded by Capt Lopp and was with him until
he was discharged at the end of three month.
Fist sworn day & year aforesaid
Jno Hill        .....         his
…………………Samuel  X  Jackson
……………………mark

and the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after partly
the interogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states.  And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that John Henly, Robson Stafford & Samuel Jackson who signed preceeding certificates residents of Stokes County are credible persons & this their statement is entitled credit
Wm [illegible signature]  JP
Benja Zigler JP
R  Folger   J P

I John Hill clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Session for Stokes County do hereby
certify that the forgoing contains the [illegible] proceeding of said Court in the matter of the application of Jacob Idol for a pension - In testimony whereof I had hereto set my hand and affixed my seal of office
this 15 March AD 1833
Jno Hill
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 State of North Carolina
Davidson County     …. I David Mock Clerk of the Court of Pleas & quarter Sessions of said
County do hereby certify that John W Lindsay Esq before whom the within affidavit of Daniel
Motsinger was made is and was at the time an acting Justice of the peace in and for the
County aforesaid duly commissioned & qualified and that full faith & credit should be given
to his official acts as such In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the Seal of said
Court at Office the 26th  day of March 1833
D. Mock CCC
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No 44
Cloy Idol
Wid of Jacob

NC

Feb 20, 1848


Elisha Smith
Salisbury
NC

[right hand side}
Address  Elisha Smith
Salisbury   Rowan
County,  NC
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State of North Carolina ⎬   SS
County of Forsythe
On the 5th day of January A.D. one thousand Eight hundred and fifty two personally appeared before
the subscribing Justice of the peace of the County and State aforesaid Cloy Idol a resident of Forsythe County and State of North Carolina, aged Eighty nine years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed on the 2 day of February AD 1848 granting pension to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary war. That she is the widow of Jacob Idol who was a private in a company of Militia, in the year of the Revolution. That she has not received any pension under the act of 17 of June AD 1844. But that her said husband received a pension under the act of the 7th of June A.D. 1832, and that his pension certificate Certificate bears date of June 24 day A.D 1833 which Certificate is recorded in the pension office in Book E. Vol. 6, page 44.  She further declares that she was married to her said husband Jacob Idol on or about the 7th  day of April A.D. one thousand seven hundred
and Eighty four  .. and that her husband died at his residence in Forsythe County and State aforesaid on 21 day of January A D one thousand Eight hundred and fifty one and she further declares that she is still the widow of Jacob Idol, her said husband
Elisha Smith…………………  her
                             …..    ..................              Cloy Idol-
  Joab Teague   …………………………mark
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year first above written
……………             Joab Teague J.P.
Be it known that I at Joab Teague a Justice of the peace who administered the oath to Cloy Idol whose
name appears to the foregoing declaration do
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hereby Certify that I am well acquainted with the said Cloy Idol, and that she is old and infirm in body, but has a ve4ry good mind for one of her age, and that she could not have attended Court, to make this declaration because of her age and infirmity of body,  And I further Certify that she is reputed to be a woman of truth.  In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal, this January 5th day  A D 1852.
Joab Teague,  J.P.

State of North Carolina
County of Forsythe
On this 5th of January  A D one thousand eight hundred and fifty two, personally appeared before me a Justice of the peace within and for the County and State aforesaid, Mathias Idol, aged about seventy nine years, who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath State that he was well acquainted with Jacob Idol and his wife, Cloy, and was at the weding when Jacob Idol was married to Cloy Johnson by one Henry Danise, a magistrate .  Cloy Idol, whose name appears to the foregoing declaration is the identical woman who was married to Jacob Idol, the husband of the said Cloy Idol and that Jacob Idol was a pensioner as stated in the foregoing declaration and that after Jacob Idol was married to Cloy Johnson, the lived together as man and wife until the day of his death, which took place in January 21 day AD 1851.     Mathias Idol

Sworn and subscribed on the day and
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year first above written.  I hereby certify that Mathias Idol is well known to me, and that he is reputed to be a man of truth.  In testimony whereof, I hereunto subscribe my name as an acting Justice of the peace.   M. Idol stated that J Idol was married to C Johnson in AD  1784
		 Joab  Teague  JP	

State of North Carolina
Forsythe County          I   A J Stafford, Clerk of the Courts of Pleas and quarter Sessions for said County, do hereby certify that Joab Teague, whose name appears to the foregoing declaration of Cloy Idol + to the affidavit of Matthias Idol, is + was an acting Justice of the Peace when the aforesaid declaration + affidavit were made, duly commissioned + qualified as such, that his official acts as such are entitled to credit + that the signature purporting to be his is genuine’
  In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand + affixed the Seal of our said Court at Office, this 30th day of January,  AD  1852

       A J Stafford,  Clerk
by  C  L  Rights   D C
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October 17, 1933
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Jacob Idol, W. 7859
BA-J/MCS

Bernice J. White
19 Villa Avenue
Pitman
New Jersey
Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your request for the records of Revolutionary War soldiers named Jacob Idol and Matthew B. Rights.

Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims made to the United States for pension and bounty land based upon the military service of soldiers in that war. A search of the records fails to show such claims on file on account of the services of a Matthew Rights or Matthew B. Rights.

The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, S.7859, based upon the military service of Jacob Idol.

He was born in 1761 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

While a resident of Rowan County in that part which later became Davidson County, North Carolina, he enlisted in 1780 and served three months as private or corporal in Captain James Billingsley's Company of North Carolina Mounted Militia. He enlisted in February, 1781, and served one month as private in Captain William Davis' North Carolina Company during this service he and his brother (name not given) who was in service with him went to their father's (name not given) house on furlough and while there both were captured by the Tories but made their escape. Jacob Idol enlisted in the summer of 1781 and served three months as first sergeant in Captain Lopp's Company in Colonel Smith's North Carolina Regiment
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Shortly after his service, Jacob Idol moved “across the line” to Stokes County and he was living there when he applied for pension March 14, 1833, at which time he was referred to as Jacob Idol, Senior.  His claim for pension was allowed.

 He died January 21, 1851 in Forsyth County, North Carolina.

He married in Rowan or Stokes County, North Carolina, about April 1, 1782 or 1784, Cloy Johnson

 She was allowed pension on her application executed January 5, 1852, while a resident of Forsyth County, North Carolina aged eighty nine years.  She was living in that county in 1855.

Jacob and Cloy Idol had children, but their names were not designated.  In 1855, one Sarah Idol (relationship not given) was living in Davidson or Forsyth County and acted as witness for the widow.  In 1852, one Mathias Idol, aged about seventy-nine years, stated that he was at the wedding of Jacob and Cloy Idol, but he did not give his relation to the soldier.

 Very truly yours
A.D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator
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State of North Caroline
Stokes County      amended Declaration of Jacob Idol to his application for a pension
under the Act of 1832-
 
this 20 day of June AD 1833 Came before us Henry Semerson one of the justices of the peace for the County aforesaid Jacob Idol and made oath that in the year 1780 some short time before the battle of Kings Mountain took place, the precise month and day from old age and consequent loss of memory he cannot recollect  he volunteered in the County of Rowan and State aforesaid, where he then resided
in a Company of mounted Militia (illegible) as Light Infantry, which company was commanded by Capt James Billingsly   William Davis being Lieutenant  Seaborn Jackes Ensign and  William Bodenham first Sargeant.   that he volunteer for a three months tour .  this the company was [illegible raced? yonder?] of  General Rutherford at the time when it was expected that the British would march through and take the country.   that in order to check the British in their course his company was order to march towards
South Carolina but after having marched about a day,  they were met by an express bringing the news of the battle at Kings Mountain upon which this were turned back, and [illegible] day the General performed duty in the County of Rowan and [illegible] embodied for the purpose of being prepared to [illegible] the British,  and to keep the tories
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 tories in subjection and to prevent them from embodying in order to join the British for which [illegible] his company was ordered to scour the county of Rowan and occasionally made incursions to the County of Randolph and Guilford duing which  three month his company was either on the march or in camp.  That he then served out his three months acting all the time as Corporal, in all which terms he was engaged in no civil pursuits – then after having served out his three months, he was discharged in writing by his Captain, which discharge he has lost.
   He states that in his original declaration, the tours in which this service was performed is put down as performed in the year 1881, which is a mistake affiant is satisfied it was performed as herein stated.
Affiant further states that about the time the British marched through the Country and apparently subduing it of affiant recollects right in the month of February 1781, he again volunteered in a company of Militia in the County of Rowan commanded by Capt. William Davis for an indefinite time in order to keep the embers of liberty from being entirely extinguished – and to quench + to protect the persons as well as the property of the Whigs [illegible] against violence and aggression   That he
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does not know by what authority this guard was called out other than the authority with which Capt. Davis was clothed and such general orders given by Gen’l. Rutherford to guard and protect the Whig party at that [illegible] junction of affairs. -  Affiant further states that he and his brother obtained a furlough to leave the rendezvous for a day for the purpose of going home + mend his shoes – during the temporary [illegible], the rendesvous was fallen upon by a detachment of Tories and taken prisoners – and affiant and his brother was pursued to their Father’s home about ten miles distant and taken prisoners.   Affiant with the others prisoners were then conducted to British encampment located at the time in Guilford County from which imprisonment he got off as  his ori. Declaration [illegible] which service and emprisonment lasted one month -  as a private.
   In the latter season of 1781, affiant states he volunteered again for three months in the County of Rowan in a company of mounted Militia acting as mounted Light Infantry – commanded by Cap’t Lopp, Williams, Bodenhour Lieutenant and attached to a Regiment commanded by Col Smith under the orders of Gen’l Rutherford.  They marched to Wilmington, State of North Carolina and [illegible] as was the [illegible]  Declarant marched + [illegible] at Wilmington a neighborhood with Cornwallis was taken at {illegible]  after which his company was
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marched toward and discharged as which as affiant having served feels three months as First Sargeant.  Then he was discharged by his Capt in writing, which writing he has lost.

That he served in all seven months  - 3 months as a Corporal, 3 months as a First Sargeant during which time he was engaged in no civil pursuits, one month as a private. that during the first three months which his engaged services as herein mentioned he rode his own horse and during the last tour, he was furnished with a public horse.

Sworn and subscribed
 [illegible] month +                                                his
year  1833  ………….                 Jacob    X   Idol
              ……………………….                Mark

John Henry Senserman  J P

State of North Carolina
Stokes County            This   7th day of June  1833, Jacob Idol appeared before me, Henry Senserman, one of the Justices of the Peace for the County of Stokes and stated that since the making of foregoing affidavit, douth now amend his [illegible] whether he served as Corporal in his first three months tour under Capt Bellinger as on his Declaration menchend as a conscientious man, he deems it his duty to declare his services as a Corporal in that tour and put in place his service on the footings of a private for in regards that tour being his other service as heretofore stated and having his claim for service  of [illegible] months as a private of three months as First Sargeant

Sworn and subscribed before 
me the 7th June 1833         his
……………  John  X  Idol
 …………mark
John Henry Senserman
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State of N. Carolina
Davidson County                  This day came Daniel Motsinger Sen’r personally before me John W. Lindsay one of the acting Justices of the peace for said County and made oath in due form of Law that Jacob Idol Sen’r of Stokes County served with him in the Revolution War a three months tour under the following officers Capt James Bilingsly,  Lieut Wm Davis, Ensign Seaborn Tacker, 1st Sergeant Wm Bodenhamer Sworn and subscribed to before me this 6th day of March 1833
John W. Lindsay    ........................                        his
………………………………Daniel  X  Motsinger
…………………………………..mark
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I hereby certify that Daniel Motsinger Sen’r who took the within affidavit before me as within
Certified  is a creditable person and his Statement Entitled to Credit
                                                    John W Lindsay

State of North Carolina
Davidson County               I David Mock Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of said County do hereby certify that John W Lindsay Esqr before whom the within affidavit was made & who has assigned the above certificate is and was at the time an acting Justice of the peace in and for said County duly commissioned & qualified and that full faith & credit should be given to all official acts as such
 In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of
said Court at Office the 5th day of April 1833
    D. Mack CCC
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No 44  13  April
Cloy Idol, wid of Jacob
NC
**  Let. to Elisha Smith  June 16 /52
Let  same  April 11/53
“”  Same  Sept 9 /53
Elisha Smith 12th Jany 1854

** See this letter in Rev. claim  David
Lockebee   R   6439   J LL   5/29/35

Act  2  Feby  1848
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Commissioner of Pension      ………..  Danbury NC
Washington  DE  ………………………………………May 8th 1856

Dear Sir
	Mrs. Cloy Idol, bounty Land Claim No 90.582 was suspended about 22nd Nov.  1855 for the want of record proof of her husband’s service in the Revolutionary War.  Now to ask for record proof of the militia service in that war.  is asking an imposebility.  It may be that the fact that both her husband and herself have been allowed a pension by the United States, upon such evidences as were submitted, if parol, it has been made a matter of record and the proof that she is now drawing a pension should be sufficient to entitle her to bounty Land.  I don’t think that the government should require stronger proof in bounty Land cases than in pension cases.  and if I can understand the bounty Land Law of March 3, 1855 – in such a case as the one in question, record proof is not required.  I hope you will reconsider the case + allow her Claim.  She is now about 95 years old + has but little time to wait.  Let her have it to pay her last expenses.  Her pension is only $20.
             I am respectfully yours
          Elisha  Smith

Address
Elisha Smith
Danbury
Stokes Co.   NC
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26.839

Vol  Any
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Pension Office
April 13, 1854 

Sir
Jacob Idol, N.C. Rolls, Act June 7 1832 at $23.33 per annum, Please state to
What time paid
Very Respectfully
   [Illegible]

F. Barly
3rd Auditer

Triplett
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Jacob Idol  Act 1832 $23.33  per ann.
Dies  21  Jany  1851   Paid   

 F.  Bush 
Auditor
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Cloy Idol  Widow
of Jacob
NC
Adm  2nd Feby  1848
7 months  pri.  23.33
per annum  from
21 Jany  1851 when he died

Cert to
Elisha Smith Esq
Salem 
NC
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Brief in the case of Cloy Idol, widow of Jacob
Forsyth County and State of North Carolina
act  2nd  Feby  1848

Claim  (“original”   [scratched out:  or “for increase”)]

Proof exhibited  (if original)

Is it documentary, traditionary or supported by rolls?  If either, state the substance.

Her husband was a pensioner under the Act of June 7 1837  (see his papers)
Parol evidence of marriage
William Raper, Jacob Bodenham

[scratched out:  (or “for increase”)
               Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim?  If so, what?)]

Jacob Teague + Mathias Idol witnesses for date of marriage + identity

Name and residence of Agent
Elisha Smith Esq
Salem  NC

Thornton Triplett
Examining Clerk
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Admit as a private
7 month  $23.33

A.A. Sheppard
Germanton
NC
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of 
Jacob  Idol …………………which require
 further proof or explanation.

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason
assigned for his not doing so?
IV.  Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?
V  *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he
served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout of pension
he is entitled?     ………..No
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of
June 7, 1832?
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?
from any other seal?
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
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       XI	Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman or another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief of his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?                             
XII     If the clergyman’s affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it        
XIII   If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had :  
XIV  * If the applicant’s name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service, 
          If he has produced direct proof as to the service, has the magistrate who administered the oath certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV    Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation or of such an age  as to have personal knowledge of the applicant’s service?   
        XVI    Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?         
XVII   Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily?  And, if not, which of them is not so answered.             

EXPLANATORY NOTES
*QUERE V.     In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:

   “Personally appeared before me, the undersigned a Justice of the Peace &c A. B . who, being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his services but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following grades; .  For __  year ____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _______ .      For __  year ____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _______   and for such service I claim a pension
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served
and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the
pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions
merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the
officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objection
able. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration
of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the
applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either
in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV   Proof of Service
       In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must
prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of
the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the
regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths
must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate
must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not
written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass
under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly
attached to the certificate.
      In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the
certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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Treasury Department,
Second Comptroller's Office
December 16. 1840

Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury
of the United States, Jacob Idol a Pensioner on the Roll of the North Carolina Agency, at the rate of twenty three Dollars and   33  Cents per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832, has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of Sept. 1839 to the 4th of March 1840

Respectfully, yours,
Albion K. Parris
Comptroller.

To the Commissioner of Pensions
Present.
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Wm Raper
Jacob Bodenham
Jacob Teague
Mathias Idol


Jacob Idol  21 Jny ‘51
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L P Woldo  Comm Pen                …………….Salem No Ca
Washington DC          ………………April 5, 1854

Enclosed I send you additional evidence in Cloy Idol, Widow of Jacob idol pensioner case which I hope will be sufficient to pass the case for if it is not passed on this, I know no other chance to amend the evidence as to marriage
 I am Sir, Respectfully
Elisha Smith

Address
Elisha Smith
Salem  NC
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Salisbury    North Carolina
October 12th 1852 

Sir

Some time last spring. I sent Mrs Cloy Idol, declaration to the pension office, for a pension, Claiming under the Law of  2nd  Feb. 1848, and it was refused an examination because it was not made before a Court of record. I think it was objected to an unjustifiable grounds, unless I Claimed under the Law, I did not intend *
I now send an other declaration, for Mrs Idol, the proof of Marriage will be found on file with
her other declaration, now in the pension office, those papers should be looked up and put on file with this as they will be of much service in the examination of the case. I hope the case will not be delayed as the widow is getting old,
Address,  Elisha Smith
Salisbury, N.C.

I am Sir, respectfully yours
Elisha Smith

Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
           DC
*Cloze not the Law of the 2nd of Feb  1848   In the regulations under that Law, Say the declaration may be made  before a Justice of the peace, (a Magistrate) in N.C.
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State of North Carolina
Rowan County

I James E Kerr, Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for said county aforesaid, do hereby certify that I have made diligent search in my Office for the marriage License bond of Jacob Idol and Cloy Johnston but can not find such a bond on file in my office

         In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of the said Court at Offices in Salisbury this 5th day of October 1852

                  James E Kerr,  clk
                     by    J  [illegible signature]  DC
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FREE

[stamp:  SALEM  NC  JAN 5]

[SIDEWAYS]  :  Cloy Idol
  NC  [illegible]  2  Feb

L P Waldo  Commissioner  Pensions
 Washington City
 DC
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Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City D.C

Salem N.C.
January 3rd 1854

Sir
Enclosed I send you the additional evidence required by the department in the application of Cloy Idol, widow of Jacob of N.C. for a pension act of Feb 2nd 1848. See the letter sent me some 3 or 4 months last (date not recollected)
I hope this Claim to be allowed as soom as possible.
I am Sir Respectfully yours
Elisha Smith
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…………….  Salem  NC
		……………..  July 13th  1853
Sir
            Enclosed you will additional evidence of the marriage of Cloy Idol, widow of Jacob of N.C.  Please examine + report soon as possible
   I am  Respectfully yours
            Elisha Smith

Address
Elisha Smith
Salem  NC


Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City, DC
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Cloy Idol Case  pension
Act, 38
additional evidence

[bottom of page and upside down]
Address    Elisha Smith
Salisbury  NC
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State of  North Carolina
County of Davidson           
On this 9th day of May AD 1853 before me a Justice of the peace in + for said County + State aforesaid personally appeared  E. Smith whose statements on oaths are to be believed, who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath state that he has made a search for some private record evidence of the marriage of Cloy Idol to her deceased husband, Jacob Idol.  that he can not find any such record, neither dose he belive that any such record dose now exist.  Sworn to and subscribe on this day and the year last above written.
			………E Smith
before me
Wm G Beard  JP

State of  North Carolina
County of Davidson          I C F Lowe, Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions in + for said sounty do certify that Wm G Beard + Wm Raper Esquire whose names appear to the foregoing affidavits are and were magistrates at the time of signing said affidavits duly commissioned and qualified according to law for the courts of Davidson + State aforementioned.  That the signatures purporting to be theirs are genuine

In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal at Office in Lexington, this the 9th day of May AD  1853      

C F Lowe, Clerk
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North Carolina Davidson County
Personally appeared Jacob Bodenhamer Before the Subscriber a Justice of the Peace for said County and maketh oath that he is acquainted with Cloy Idol Widow of Jacob Idol and has been for many years and with her Marrige with Jacob Idol Because he was at the Infare at Idols and he further says that Cloy Idol was Married to Jacob Idol some Seventy years ago the reason that he say that knows is that he was twelve or thirteen years one at the time of the Infare and he says that he is now about Eighty three years of Age and that Clay Idol was Married to Jacob Idol Before the first day of January Seventeen hundred and Ninety four
Sworn and subscribed this
4th day of May 1853
Jacob Bodenham  Sr
Wm Raper J. P
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State of North Carolina Davidson County
On this the twentieth of January  AD  one thousand Eight hundred and fifty two personally appeared before me one of the Justices of the peace within and for the County aforesaid, Jacob Bodenhamer, Aged eighty one past who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath state that he is and has been well acquainted with Cloy Idol and he believes that she was married to Jacob Idol Because he the said Jacob Bodenhamer was at the wedding after Jacob Idol was married to Cloy Johnson, who is now his widow and that they ware married together in the year  A. D.  seventeen hundred and eighty two and lived together as man and wife until Jacob Idol died, which took place in January AD one thousand eight hundred fifty one and he further state that Cloy, his wife, is still his widow and further he sayeth not.   Sworn and subscribed the day and Date above written
    Jacob Bodenhamer Sr.

Before Me
Wm Raper  JP
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State of North Carolina 
County of Davidson
   I C F Lowe, Clerk of the Court of Please and Quarter Sessions in and for Davidson County aforesaid Certify that Wm. Raper whose name appears to the foregoing affidavit of Jacob Bodenhamer is and was at the date of said affidavit, an acting Justice of the peace in and for Said County duly Commissioned and Qualified. That as such, he has authority by Law to administer oaths for general purposes and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court
at Office in Lexington this 20th day of February, AD  1852

C F Lowe, Clk
[sideways at bottom]:   Address  Elisha Smith
Salisbury, NC
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State of North Carolina 
Stokes County
   This 14 day of June 1833 came before me one of the Justices of the Peace for the Court of Stokes, Samuel Jackson.  He certifies that when heretofore called upon to testify as to service of Jacob Idol, his attention was called to no other facts than Idol served.   being now called upon to state whether he recollects of any officer he had in that service.  He now states that he recollects perfectly well that the said Idol served three months in a company commanded by Capt Lopp [illegible] in Rowan County in the year 1781 as affiant served in said Company with him.  That he marched with him in the same company to Wilmington where he served out the three months.  The Regiment was under the command of Col Smith under the general command of Gene Rutherford.  that he knows very well that said Idol acted during the whole three months as a non-commissioned Officer say as First Sargeant.

His
Samuel  X  Jackson
Mark

sworn and subscribed before day and year
aform’d
Benja  Ziglar  JP

I certify that Samuel Jackson is a credible person + that his statement is entitled to credity
Benja  Ziglar  JP
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State of North Carolina
Stokes County
    I John Hill Clerk of the Court of pleas & quarter sessions for Stokes County certify
that John Henry Senserman & Benjamin Zigler whose names appear to the foregoing Affidavits
are duly qualified & acting Justices of the peace in & for our said County of Stokes & that their signature
as such are genuine 
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office & subscribed
my name this 14th June 1833
Jno Hill
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State of North Carolina
Davidson County …….  On this the Eighteenth day of
March A.D. 1854
Before me A Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid personally appeared William
Raper Senior Aged Eighty three years a resident of Guilford County in the State Aforesaid who being duly
Sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following staements that he was well acquainted with Jacob Idol and wife Clary in the life time of the said Jacob Idol and that he believes that Jacob Idol was Married to Clary Johnson according to Law for the reason that they always acknowledge each other as wife & Husband so long as the said Jacob Idol lived; he further says that he always lived near them and knows that they lived together as Husband & wife before he himself was Married to Keziah Davis which was before the A.D. 1791 as it appears from the record kept in my family Bible which he still keeps,  that my son Solomon Raper was born A.D. 1791 on the 24 day of October My Son Wm Raper, A.D. 1795 August and he further says that Jacob Idol & Clary his wife has children older than his Children as he lives near them and Knows all of their Children
Further this deponent sayeth not
William Raper
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Sworn to and Subscribed the day and year first
Above Written before me
And I further Certify that William Raper Senior
is a man of truth and entitled to Credit
Wm Raper J.P.

State of North Cardina
County of Davidson     J C F Lowe Clerk 
of the court of pleas and Quarter Sessions for Davidson County aforesaid Certify that
Wm Raper whoes name appears to the foregoing affidavit is and was at the term of signing
the same an acting Justice of the peace for said County duly Commissioned and qualified
and as such his official acts are legal and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand
and affixed my Official seal at Office the 5th
day of April 1854
C F. Lowe Clk

Address E Smith
Salem N.C
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State of North Carolina
County of Forsythe
On this the 18 day of Sept A.D. Eighteen hundred and fifty two personally appeared before me a Justice of a Court of Record for Forsyth County, aforesaid, Cloy Idol resident in Forsythe County in the State of North Carolina aged ninety years, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress passed on the 2d day of February AD 1848, granting pensions to widows who served during the Revolutionary war. That she is the widow of Jacob Idol, who was a private among the Militia and a pensioner of the United States at the rate of about Twenty three dollars per annum, as will appear by
reference to a declaration now in the pension office at Washington D.C. sent in by Elisha Smith, Agt, which was refused and examination because it was not make in Court in which her said husband is particularly described as pensioner. She further declares that her said husband died at his residents on the 21 day of January Eighteen hundred and fifty one.  That she was married to her said husband   in Rowan County No. Car. after the close of the Revolutionary war and before the first of January
A.D. 1794. reference to the papers now in the pension office aforesaid, and that she is still a widow
                             her
                        Cloy  x  Idol
                             Mark
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year first written before me.
 And I Certify that the applicant cannot attend Court because of
her bodily infirmity, and that she is personally known to me to be the widow of Jacob Idol
 aforesaid and that she is a woman of truth and entitled credit
Jacob Teague  J.P.
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State of North Carolina
Forsyth County  …………………………I A.J. Stafford
Clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Session of said County do hereby certify that Jacob Teague whose name appears to the foregoing declaration is and was an acting Justice of our Court of Record
duly commissioned & qualified as such.  he has authority by law to administer oaths for general purposes and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court
at Winston on the 28th day of September A.D. 1852
A J Stafford Clk
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Mrs. Cloy Idol   wid of
Jacob
for a pension
Oct 18 / 52
                 
[sideways]:                     FREE
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
DC
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{???  Not sure why this love story of Mr. K and Miss McIntosh is in here….  KQ}

 But my friend Mr. K. moved down the stream of Courtship upon a tide that was curled by no breeze he [illegible] his visits time and again untill his heart was so fixed into the heart the Lovely Miss McIntosh to that they were mutually promis to each other that they wanted tie the nuptial not, and then they would each for the other live and die. But this state of affairs was not long to be enjoyed by Mr K. by some unfortunet movement he set a barner in the hart of Miss McIntosh against himself. Miss McIntosh now determined never to become the wife, Mr. K.  She therefore, made her arrangements to give him his final discharge, when he should visit her again and accordingly she told him that his visits would be no longer accepted by and he was requested to discontinue them.  Mr K remained for some time silent, incapble of speaking but at last regained his gravity, and answered her and said my dear I hope I have not insulted you when she replied that he would confere favour in her if he would forbare asking her for an explanation for the course that she had pursued, and that if he would leave imediatly it would be an additional one. where on Mr K left the house resolved never to return again while the vital curent Continued to run its course, Mr. K. retraced his path way home. I could see distinctly in his countinance, that something nawing at his heart, this State of afores did not last long. The fond hopes that he had chrished of one day or other of possessing Miss McIntosh as his own were all now niped in the bud by the frosty and adverse position of Miss McIntosh mind. he said that he was forsaken by Miss McIntosh and had every reason to believe that she once loved him as he now loved her but the thing change by some means.
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Rev. and 1812
Wars Section
MCS / eel
                  …………. February 20, 1929

Mrs. P. A. Jones
116 N. Hamilton Street
High Point, North Carolina

Madam:
   I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W.7849, it appears that Jacob Idol was born in 1761 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
   While a resident of Rowan County, North Carolina, he enlisted in 1780 and served three months as a private in Captain James Billingsly's Company of North Carolina Mounted Militia.
    He enlisted in February, 1781, and served one month as a private in Captain William Davis' North Carolina Company; he was captured by the Tories but made his escape.
     He enlisted in the summer of 1781 and served three months as first sergeant in Captain Lopp's Company in Colonel Smith's North Carolina Regiment.
      He was allowed pension on his application executed March 14, 1833, while a resident of Stokes County, North Carolina.  He died, January 21, 1851, in Forsyth County, North Carolina.
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He married in Rowan or Stokes County, North Carolina, about April 1, 1782 or 1784, Cloy Johnson. She was allowed pension on her application executed January 5, 1852, while a resident of Forsyth County, North Carolina, aged eighty nine years.
They had children but their names were not given. Your letter in regard to Abram Gorset of the Civil
War has been referred to the proper division for consideration

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner.
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Rev.  & 1812 War Section 
                                           May 10, 1928

Miss Pearl Idol
409 West High St.
High Point, N. C.
Madam:
I advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 7859, it appears that JACOB IDOL was born in 1761 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

While a resident of Rowan County, North Carolina, he enlisted in 1780 and served three months as a private in Captain James Billingsly's Company of North Carolina Mounted Militia.

He enlisted in February, 1781, and served one month as a private in Captain William Davis' North Carolina Company; he was captured by the Tories but made his escape.

He enlisted in the summer of 1781 and served three months as first sergeant in Captain Lopp's Company in Colonel Smith's North Carolina Regiment.

He was allowed pension on his application March 14, 1833, while a resident of Stokes County, North Carolina. He died January 21, 1851, in Forsyth County, North Carolina.
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He married in Rowan or Stokes County, North Carolina, about April 1, 1782 or 1784, Cloy Johnson. She was allowed pension on her application executed January 5, 1852, while a resident of Forsyth County, North Carolina, aged eighty-nine years.
They had children but their names were not given.

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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Rev & 1812 Wars Section 

                                         October 19, 1927

Elmer A. Tucker
947 West End Blvd.
Winston-Salem, N.C. 

Sir:
           I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 7859, it appears that JACOB IDOL was born in 1761 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

While a resident of Rowan County, North Carolina, he enlisted in 1780 and served three months as private in Captain James Billingsly's Company of North Carolina Mounted Militia.

He enlisted in February, 1781, and served one month as private in Captain William Davis' North Carolina Company; he was captured by the Tories but made his escape.

He enlisted in the summer of 1781 and served three months as first sergeant in Captain Lopp's Company in Colonel Smith's North Carolina Regiment

He was allowed pension on his application executed March 14, 1833, while a resident of Stokes County, North Carolina. He died January 21, 1851, in Forsyth County, North Carolina.
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He married in Rowan or Stokes County, North Carolina, about April 1, 1782 or 1784, Cloy Johnson. She was allowed pension on her
application executed January 5, 1852, while a resident of Forsyth County, North Carolina, aged eighty-nine years.

They had children but their names were not given, nor were the names of the parents of Jacob Idol given.

Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT
Commissioner
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Rev & 1812 Wars Section

March 1, 1924

Mrs. D. J. Cummings
705 Spring St.
Brownstown, Ind.

Madam:

 I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W.7859, it appears that Jacob Idol was born in 1761
in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

While a resident of Rowan County, North Carolina, he enlisted in 1780 and served three months as private in Captain James Billingsly's
Company of North Carolina Mounted Militia.

He enlisted in February 1781 and served one month as private in Captain William Davis' North Carolina Company; he was captured by the Tories but made his escape.

He enlisted in the summer of 1781 and served three months as it Sergeant in Captain Lopp's Company, Colonel Smith's North Carolina Regiment

He was allowed pension on his application executed March 14, 1833, while a resident of Stokes County, North Carolina. He died January 21,1851, in Forsyth County, North Carolina
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He married in Rowan or Stokes County, North Carolina, about April 1, 1782 or 1784, Cloy Johnson. She was allowed pension on her
application executed January 5, 1852, while a resident of Forsyth County, North Carolina, aged eighty-nine years.

There were children, names not stated.

The Revolutionary War records of this Bureau fail to afford information in regard to a Jacob Idyle or Jake Idle-
Respectfully,
Commissioner
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In reply to your request of  _____ received ______  for a statement of the military history of Jacob Idol a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
W. 7859

DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
1780
Feb 1781
September 1781
LENGTH OF SERVICE.
3 mths
1 mth
3 mths

RANK.

[scratched out:  Corporal]
Private
1st Sargeant

OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.

CAPTAIN.
James Billingsly
William Davis
Lopp

COLONEL.
Mtd Militia
Soldier was captured by Tories but made his escape
Colonel Smith

STATE.
No. Car.

Battles engaged in,    {appears to be simply a check mark]

Residence of soldier at enlistment,  Rowan Co. North Carolina

Date of application for pension, March 14, 1833 His claim was allowed

Residence at date of application,  Stokes Co, NC
Age at date of application,   Born in 1761; in Bucks Co Penn
Remarks:     Soldier married in Rowan or Stokes Co  NC  Apr. 1  1784 or 1782  Cloy Johnson
He died in Forsyth Co. NC January 21 1851 and wid was allowed pension on her application Jan 5 1852 while a resident of Forsyth Co. NC  89 years of age.  No children names stated

Respectfully,
Commissioner.

married in 1782
[illegible]
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[stamp:   OCT 11  1933
Mail Sub Div
Vets Adm
Reader  15

Records Division  
Bureau of Pension
Washington, D. C.

19 Villa Avenue, Pitman, N. J.
October 9, 1933.
Sir:
I am tracing my ancestry to be admitted into the Daughters of American Revolution. I have records which show that Jacob Idol was pensioned by claim W. 7859, and that his wife Cloy Idol was a pensioner of the Revolutionary War, Certificate # 6240, North Carolina Agency. I would like to have the volume and page of any military record that you may have.

I have seen the original letter from another ancestor, Rev. Matthew B. Rights, who wrote to his son John, in Salem, N. C. from Rhode Island, that he had faught the Tories along the Fall River
Could you advise me if there is any record of this case in your files, I would appreciate any suggestion as to how I could find a record of this which would be authentic,
Respectfully,
Bernice J. White
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MRS D. JOSEPH CUMMINGS
708 SPRING ST
BROWNSTOWN, INDIANA

       Jan. 27  23


Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D C

Dear Sir,
   I am interested in finding the record of Jacob Idyle or (Jake Idle) a veteran of the revolutionary war and have been advised by the Adj Gen Davis to inquire
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MRS D. JOSEPH CUMMINGS
708 SPRING ST
BROWNSTOWN, INDIANA

at your office.  Any information will be greatly appreciated
Thanking you for same
I am yours Sincerely
Mrs. D. J. Cummings

Jacob Idyle was a veteran from N. Carolina
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409 West High St.
High Point, N.C.
Aug 5th   1927

Dear Sir:-
  Will you please send to my address the Revolutionary war record of Jacob Idle of North Carolina &
oblige
                      Respt
                 Miss Pearl Idol
 
[stamp:  PENSION OFFICE 
               AUG  6  1927
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 would like the names of
the
Mrs. Harry D. Payne
R
2 -13 -1
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United State Post Office  …………….. FIRST CLASS

WINSTON-SALEM, N. C.
September 16, 1927.

Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, D.C.

My dear Sir:
           Some two or three weeks ago I wrote in regard to a Revolutionary Pensioner Jacob Idol, an ancester of mine, whose name appears among the pensioners of the Revolutionary War but not among the list of North Carolina soldiers.  His parents Barnett Idol, wife Elizabeth Meier, lived in Pensylvania at the outbreak of the war and removed to North Carolina sometime around 1776.

                 To date I have not received a reply to the letter . Will you kindly give me what information you have in regard to this soldier. 
  Very respectfully,
Elmer A. Tucker,
947 West End Blvd.,
Winston-Salem, N. C.

PENSION OFFICE
SEP  17 1927
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[LEFT SIDE OF PAGE]

1919  Feby 24  . Hist. to Mrs. Harry
D Payne

1924, March 1. Hist to
Mrs. D. J. Cummings
1927 Oct. 19  hist to
Elmer A. Tucker
1928, May 10  hist to
Miss Pearl Idol
1929 Feb. 20 hist to
Mrs. p. A. Jones  
1933, Oct 17 hist to
Bernice J. White

[Right side]
Revolution
WIDOW, &c.
File No.  7859
Cloy Idol
Wid
 Jacob Idol
Pvt. Rev. War
Act: Feby, 2nd /48
Index: -- Vol. A Page 364
[Arrangement of 1870.]
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United State Post Office  …………….. FIRST CLASS

WINSTON-SALEM, N. C.
August 18, 1927.

Pension Bureau,
Washington, D.C.

My dear Sir:
I would thank you very much if you would give me a copy of the records in your office relating to my ancester Jacob Idol who was a soldied in the Revolutianry war and a pensioner of that war.
He probably enlisted from Pennsylvania and after his father, Barnett Idol, removed to North Carolina
around 1776 and he was discharged from the army he joined his father in North Carolina and appears among the North Carolina pension list.

Very respectfully,

signed
Elmer A. Tucker,
Supt. of Mails,
Winston-Salem, N.C.