Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 23,255, Simon Haines, N.H.
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SERVICE  N. H. 

Haines, Simon /Phebe

NUMBER W.23.255
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WIDOW, & c.

File No. 23255

Phebe Haines
widow of Simon Haines
Pri Rev War

Act: March 3d 43 & June 17th 44

Index: Vol. A, Page 518

[Arrangement of 1870.]
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Dead - let to J E Quinn Dec 28 1839

14151  14436
New York

Simon Haines

Herkimer Co. in the State of New York who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Salter of the Regt commanded by (blank) in the N H ma for 24 mo.
I subscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 80 dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.

Certificate of Pension issued the 11 day of May 1833 and sent to Aaron Hackley. Herkimer

Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $160.00
Semi-anl. allowance ending 20 Sept $40.00

$200.00

{Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.}

Recorded by W. L. Williams  Clerk,
Book E  Vol. 4  Page 50
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Illinois  846

Phebe Haines dcd
widow of Simon Haines who was a Private in the Revolution Husband died 24 July 36

Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars - Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843 and ending 11 Feb 1844

Certificate of Pension issued the 26 day of Jany 49 and sent to Hon John Wentworth House of Reps
[Acts of March 3, 1843, and June 17, 1844.]

Recorded in Book A Vol. 2, Page 226

Payable to Simon Haines only child living
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In the matter of the Application of Simon Haines for a pension under the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832

14436.
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Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.

State of New York
County of Herkimer  SS:

On this thirteenth day of October 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Herkimer aforesaid, now sitting, Simon Haines a resident of Russia in the County of Herkimer and State of New York aged 74 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832.
That he entered the army of the United States as an enlisted soldier in the month of March 1776 with Captain Titus Solter and earned under the following officers as hereinafter stated, to wit.
He enlisted in the month of March 1776 to serve for one year in fort Washington upon an Island lying near to and united to Portsmouth in New Hampshire by a bridge. He was then a resident of Pembroke County of Rockingham and State of New Hampshire. This applicant enlisted as above stated in the Company of Captain Titus Solter whose First Lieutenant was Jacob Worthing. His second Lieutenant was William White. His orderly Sergeant was one Jenkins(whose Christian name this applicant does not recollect.)
That he was enlisted as a Continental Soldier he thinks in the New Hampshire Line and signed his name to the roll; but this applicant does not recollect the Regiment, or whether they were at that time attached to any regular Regiment. They were stationed in Fort Washington aforesaid where Captain Titus Solter had command. That this applicant served out the full term of his enlistment for one year in said Fort and at the expiration of said year he immediately enlisted for the term of one year again, in the same company, under the same officers to do duty in the same Fort and served his time fully out under his second years enlistment and was discharged from service sometime in the month of March 1778. That Fort Sullivan lying upon the opposite side of the Piscataqua River was completed he thiinks during the first year's enlistment and service of this applicant at For Washington. That an Officer by the name of "Long" (but in what capacity he acted this applicant cannot recollect) drew their pay and paid them off and often visited Fort Washington especially during the second year of this applicant's service there as above stated.
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That General Washington and General Sullivan once visited Fort Washington, in company, during the service of this applicant at Fort Washington as aforesaid,. That he was not in any battle during his service as a regular soldier. That when he was finally discharged in March 1778 as aforesaid, he cannot state by reason of infirmity and an impaired memory whether he received a written discharge or not, but if he did he soon after lost and cannot find the same.
And this applicant further states that in the fall of the year 1819 this applicant had his papers prefaced by David Holt Esq. then First Judge of teh Court of Common Pleas of the County of Herkimer and forwarded them through him to the War Department for a pension under the act of March 18. 1818. That said Holt subsequently informed this applicant that he had received communication from the War Department and that he would draw his pension if he could procure the addidavits of two persons that he had actually served as stated in his said declaration. And this applicant then started from his then place of residence in German Flatts and county of Herkimer aforesaid and went to Portsmouth in New Hampshire State in search of said testimony. That upon his arrival there he found that his Captain Titus Solter was dead and could not learn where any of his comrades were if living, excepting his orderly Sergeant Jenkins who was then both deaf and blind and could not be made to understand the object of this applicant's visit to as to make the requisite affidavit. And this applicant was also thereinformed that the papers of Captain Titus Solter had been consumed by fire in his dwelling many years before and that he had consequently never made returns to the War Department and that the returns from his company had not and could not be made. And this applicant supposing it in vain to make any further efforts under the circumstances abandoned the further prosecution of his claims. That he has been and is poor and illiterate and has never since his said application in 1819, applied for counsel to any person until the present time, And this applicant does not know whether his name is on the roster rolls of the War Department or not, but from
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the information he received at Portsmouth in 1819 as aforesaid, he is apprehensive that returns were never made from his company and that his name is not on the said Muster rolls at the War Department.
This applican after the war removed to Northhampton in Rockingham County New Hampshire where he resided six years, he then returned to Pembroke in said County where he continued to reside for twenty years. He then removed to Hanstead in the Province of Lower Canada and resided there eight years; from thence he removed to German Flatts in the County of Herkimer and State of New York in 1816 and resided there 9 years and then removed to Russia in the same county where he has ever since resided and now resides.
And this applicant under the circumstances herewith transmits to the War Department the certificate of two of his neighbors as to his character for veracity and as to their belief of his having performed the services above specified in the Revolution.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any State, this applicant not having drawn pay under his application in 1819 as aforesaid. (signed Simon)
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Julius C Nelson  Clerk

We William J Murrray and William Webb residing in the Town of Russia and county of Herkimer aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Simon Haines who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be 74 years of age; that that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he now resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion. (signed William J Murray  Wm Webb)
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
Julius C Nelson  Clerk 
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states. And the court further certifies that it appears to them that William Webb and William J Murray who have signed
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the preceeding certificate are residents of this Town of Russia, are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit.

I Julius C Nelson clerk of the Court of common Pleas of the County of Herkimer do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceeding of the said court in the matter of the application of Simon Haines for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this thirteenth day of October AD 1832.

Julius C Nelson  Clerk
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( 9 )
E.
FORM OF AN AFFIDAVIT TO BE MADE BY A WIDOW PLACED ON THE PENSION ROLLS OF THE WAR
DEPARTMENT.
88.
STATE [OR TERRITORY] OF
County
BE IT KNOWN, that before me, (blank)  a   (blank) duly
authorized by law to administer oaths, in and for the county aforesaid, personally appeared  (blank)
and made oath in due form of law, that she is the identical person named in an original certificate
in her possession, of which (I certify) the following is a true copy:
[Here insert a copy of her certificate of pension.]
that she has not intermarried, but continues the widow of the above mentioned (blank); 
and that she now resides in (blank), and has resided there for the space of (blank) years past; and that previous thereto she resided in (blank) ; of the truth of which statements I am fully satisfied.

Sworn to and subscribed this (blank) day of (blank) 183(blank), before me

Note. -- The above deposition must be signed by the deponent.

[In cases where a widow was placed on the pension roll under the act of March 3d, 1843, and had
surrendered her certifcate on the expiration of her pension previously to the renewal of widows' pensions
by the act of June 17th, 1844, the following form may be substituted for the above. But as widows who
were never placed on the pension list prior to the act of June, 1844, whose claims have subsequently
been admitted, will be furnished with pension certificates from the War Department, they will be required
to set out a copy of their certificates in the oath of identity, agreeably to the foregoing form.]
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(10)
F.
OATH OF IDENTITY FOR THE WIDOW OR CHILD OF A DECEASED PENSIONER.
STATE OF Illinois
Kane County.

BE IT KNOWN, that before me Alexander V Sill Probate Justice in and for the County aforesaid, duly authorized by law to adminis-
ter oaths,personally appeared Simon Haines  and made oath in due form of law, that he, is the only child living of Charles Haines the identical person who was a pensioner, and is now dead, and to whom a certificate of pension was issued, which is herewith surrendered.

That the deceased pensioner resided in Stuben County in the State of New York for the space of Ten years before his death;and that previous thereto; he resided in Herkimer County New York
Sworn and subscribed this Twelfth day of December 1848, before in witness whereof I have hereunto affized the seal of said Probate Court (signed Alexander V Sill Probate Justice)

Note.-The above deposition must be signed by the deponent. Where the pension has been increased, since the certificate has been
given, the magistrate will note the fact.
Note.-The oath of identity for the Executor or Administrator of a deceased pensioner may be in the foregoing form--substituting
"Executor" (or "Administrator," as the case may be) for "widow," &c.
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Phebe Haines

Married 20 Nov 1780
Husband died 24 July 1836
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State of New York
Steuben County Ss

On this thirteenth day of January in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty personally appeared before the Circuit Court, in and for the County of Steuben, in said state, Phebe Haines, a resident of the town of Hornbey in said County of Steuben, and State of New York, aged Eighty years and Eleven months, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the Act of Congress passed July 7th 1838. Entitled, "An Act granting half pay and pensions to certain Widows" That she is the widow of Simon Haines who was a Soldier of the Revolutionary Army, and for several years previous to his death was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States for services in said Army as a private soldier
She further declares that her maiden name was Phebe Paige and that she was married to said Simon Haines on or about the twentieth day of November in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty
That said marriage took place in the town of Lee, County of Strafford and State of New Hampshire, that her Husband the aforesaid Simon Haines, died on the twenty fourth day of July in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty six, in the town of Russia in the County of Herkimer and State of New York where he resided ten to eleven years in the town of German Flats in the same county of Herkimer, that previous to residing in German Flats he had resided for several years in in the town of Hansted in Lower Canada and that previously to residing in Hanstead aforesaid he had resided in the town of Pembroke, State of New Hampshire several years that the marriage was solemnized by a clergyman whose sie name was Hutchins, but whoe given name she is unable she is
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unable to give, that she was not married to him previous to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first of January seventeen hundred and ninety four viz: at the time above stated and that she is now sole and unmarried and has not been married at any time since the death of said Simon Haines
Phebe  Haines (her mark)

Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written, (this word "Paper" having been erased in different places and this word November having been written on an erasure, and several other erasures and underlineations made before execution.)before me in open Court. In witness where of I have hereto subscribed my name & affixed the seal of the Court of Common Pleas of Steuben County

Wm Hamilton  Clerk  Steuben County
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State of New York
Steuben County  Ss

Alpheus Warner of the town of Hornbey, county of Steuben and state of New York, personally appeared before the circuit Court, held in the town of Bath in the county and state aforesaid for the county aforesaid and being duly sworn according to Law, deposes and says the Deponent has been for some years past and still is well acquainted with Phebe Piper Haines of the said town of Hornbey, and that the general reputation of said Phebe Piper Haines is good, and has been so ever since his acquaintance with her, and entitled to belief, that Deponent was acquainted with Simon Haines and Phebe Piper Haines when they resided in German Flatts in the county of Herkimer, and state aforesaid, that her reputation was good then and she was entitled to belief, that they resided then as man and wife and further deponent saith not  (signed Alpheus Morris)
Subscribed & sworn to this 18th day of January 1840, in open Court
Thos Smithton Clerk
Steuben County

State of New York 
Steuben County Ss

Anny Warner personally appeared before the circuit Court, in and for the county of Steuben and state aforesaid, and after being duly sworn, says that deponent resides in the town of Hornbey county and State aforesaid that she is and has been for twenty years past well acquainted with Phebe Piper Haines and that her general reputation is and has during the time of Deponents acquaintance with her been good, and that Deponent believes her to be entitle to belief under oath- that Deponent was acquainted
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with said Phebe Piper Haines when she resided with her husband Simon Haines in the town of German Flatts, County of Herkimer, and State aforesaid, that her reputation then was good - and that she resided with her husband as, and was reputed to be his wife.
(signed Anna Warner)

Subscribed & sworn to this 13th day of January 1840, in open Court

Thos Hamilton Clerk
Steuben County


Phebe Haines
Married 20 Nov 1780
Husband died 24 July 1836
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State of New York
Steuben County  Ss:

On this 16th day of March, 1844, personally appeared before the undersigned, one of the Justices if the Peace of the County aforesaid resident in Said Co, and in the town of Hornbey, Hiram Gardner a resident of said town and Co. aged Forty years who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following Declaration made in his representative character as Administrator of the Estate of Phebe Haines late of said town of Hornbey, deceased, to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed on the 3d day of March 1843, granting Pensions to Widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War. 
Deponent further says that deponent resided in said town of Hornbey for upwards of Seven years last part, and for seven years and upwards last part, and until the death of said Phebe Haines which occurred on the Eleventh day of February last part deponent was well acquainted with said Phebe Haines and her son Simon Haines who also resided in said Hornbey during said period, until last fall when he removed to Illinois, Deponent further says that said Phebe (upon deponents uniform information and belief) was at the time of her decease, and at all times after made case of Simon Haines decd, her former husband, the Widow of said Simon Haines who was a private soldier in the Revolutionary received
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army of the United States, but in what company or other corps, under what officer, or officers and whether in the Militia or otherwhise deponent cannot say  and that said husband for several years next before his death ? occurred in Russia, 
Herkimer Co, N. York State was a Pensioner for such period and that deponent received here any  other pensions but said Phebe Haines of ? County aforesaid.

Deponent further says, that on the 8th day of March 1844, depnent was appointed by the Surrogate of said Steuben Co, Administrator as herinbefore Stated. 
 (signed) Hiram Gardner

Sworn to and subscribed on this day & year above written before me, Henry Gardner 
Justice of the Peace of Said County of Steuben
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State of New York 
Stuben County

George E Quin of Dix, in said County bring sworn says that diplomant was well acquainted with Phebe Haines, deceased [unknown], and for several years last past, until her decease on the 11th of February last, past (upon information as to decease and when of Hom. by Stuben County, New York, the mother of Simeon Haines, formerly of said Homby, 
that diplomant conducted the application of said Phebe Haines, deceased, for a pension under the Act of [unknown] of July 7th 1838, giving pensions and duly pay to certain widows and that diplomant husband and transmitted said Phebe Haines, papers to the pension agent of the United States at Albany, for paying pensions and paid pension money prior to 1843 came through diplomants hands for said Phebe Haines deceased, and that among the papers transmitted to said agent, for obtaining said pension money was paid Phebe Haines original certificate and which certificate and [unknown] by said agent at Albany, Diplomant further says that deplomant has from information during said acquaintance with said Phebe Haines understood and [unknown] believes that said Phebe was, from the decease of Simeon Haines her former husbands, wife to her decease, which occurred February the 11th 1844, unmarried and the widow of said Simeon Haines deceased and that said husband, said Simeon Haines deceased, was private soldier in the Revolutionary Army of the United States, but in what regiment company or other company in said
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Army said Simeon Haines, deceased served under what Officer or Officers diplomant is not informed and cannot state, diplomant is also informed and believes that said Simeon Haines deceased has wife and at the time of his decease, a pensioner of the United States, for [unknown] Revolutionary services and resident of the town of Rufsia (sp?0 in the County of Herkimer in said state of New York , and that the amount received by said Phebe Haines deceased for pension money of the United States, under said Act of July 7th 1838, (whcih was paid in [unkown] about July 1st 1841) was $368.14 or thereabouts,

Geo Edw Quin
Subscribed and sworn to 
March 14th 1844, from Clifton Me 
John Jamison Justice of the Peace of said County

State of New York, Hudson County, fr: F. William Hamilton, Clerk afrsaid County certify, that the [unknown] persons whose [unknown] names
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14, 426 Simon Haines Herkimer Co NY admitted. 24 mo. Private 

Aaron Mackly Herkimer N.Y.
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BRIEF in the case of Simon Haines
of Herkimer in the State of N York
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Open Court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? (blank)
3. How old is he? 74 years
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.

(table begins)
Period.  March In 1776 - 
1777
Duration of Service. 
Years, 1 
Months,  (blank)
Days.  (blank)

Rank  Private  (ditto)

Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served 
Gen.  
Capt Salter
Capt Salter  N. H. 

(table ends)

5. In what battles was he engaged? None
6. Where did he reside when he entered the serive.  Pembroke N. Hampshire 
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by tradionary evidence, incidental evidence, or by the rolls.  Traditionary 
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct
Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case abovementioned

(signed) Richard Cutts
Examining Clerk.
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6212 
New York

Phebe Haines widow of Simon Haines who was a pensioner under the Act of 7 June 1832 who died on the 24 July 1836, of Steuben in the State of New York who was a private in the Comp'y commanded Captain Salter of the Eagle commanded by in the New Hamp line for 24 months

Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 80 Dollars [crossed out: Cents] per annum to commence on the 24th day of July 1836, the day of his death.

Certificate of Pension issued the 3 day of June 1841 & sent and G. Edwd Quin Esqr  Salubria New York 

Arrears to the 4th of March 1841 being 4 years and 7 months 10 days

368.88
$368.88 

Act July 7 1838. 
Recorded by Theo Lelliardy Clerk, Book a Vol. 2 Page 83Vol. Page 83 

see letter to Hon W. S. Hubbele 
H.R. May 6. 1844 - and to E. Quin, Sept. 30. 1844 -
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State of New York County of Chemung Ss: I, Simon L. Rood, Clerk of said County, certify that on this 15th day of April, 1846 in open and actual session of the Court of Common pleas of said Co. being a Court of Record and having a Seal, by the Evidence of Nathan Gardner and Emaline Gardner, who appeared and were duly sworn in said Court, touching the Matters hereinafter mentioned, that Phebee Haines, late of Hornby in the County of Steuben, in said State, a Pensioner of the United States and who, for some years next preceeding the death of said Phebee, was the widow of the late Simon Haines, who was also a Pensioner of the United States and had a son whose name was also Simon Haines who, prior to the death of said Phebee, removed to one of the Western States and that said son Simon Haines was reputed to be the only child of said Phebee and it was then and there also further prooved, by said Witnesses, in manner aforesaid, that said Witnesses severally were well and personally acquainted with said Phebee for Several years next preceding the death of said Phebee and that there was not any other person residing in said Hornby, of the name of Phebee Haines, at any time during such acquaintance that during his acquaintance said Witness and said Phebee Haines resided in said Hornby where said Phebee departed this life, on the Eleventh day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand, Eight hundred & forty two In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said Court, at Elmira, in said Co, on this 15th day of April, A.D. 1846 S.L. Rood Clerk
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Hon J. Wentworth 
Chicago 
Illinois
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State of Illinois County Ss. I John Dean Caton associate Justice of the Supreme Court and presiding Judge of the same Circuit Court in and for said State, both being Courts of record, do hereby certify, that it was this day prove and made to appear before me by the oaths of Leroy Haines and Philander Haines of the said County of Kane that Phebe Haines late of the Town of Hornby in the County of Steuben in the State of New York, widow of the late Simon Haines departed this life in the said Town of Hornby on the Eleventh day of February A.D. 1849. and that Simon Haines Now of the County of Du Page in the State of Illinois is the only child of the said Phebe Hains now living.

Millings the hand of said Judge this 24th day of April 1848 J D Caton 

Kane County State of Illinois Ss Mark Whither Clerk of the Circuit Court of said County Certify that the Hon J D Caton is associate Justice and presiding Judge as above mentioned and that his signature to the preceding is genuine. 

Witness my name and the seal of said Court at Geneva of this 24th day of April AD 1848 W W Fletcher Atty
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McMillens Grove 
Ill Sept 13th 
Mr. Edward Quin Esqr Salubria Chemung Co
NY
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Matter of Appl'n, of H. Gardner Adm'r of Phebee Haines, for and Pension 

Affis.
 E. Quin, Salubria, N.Y. Atty--.
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State of New York
Chemung County ss
I
●
Jesse Underwood, of Hornby Steuben
Co, in said State being duly sworn
deposes and says, that deponent was
well acquainted with the late Phobe
Haines who, for several years next
preceding her death, widowed in said
Hornby, where deponent, during said
acquaintance also weded, that
said Phebe Haines was the only person
in said Hornby deponent [illegible] knew was the Mother of Simon Haines who
lately removed from said Hornby to
the State of  Illinois, and stipulated
to be the Widow of one Simon Haines
a pensioner of the United States,
and was herself such pensioner.
Deponent further says that said Phoebes departed this life, at said
Hornby, on the 11th day of February
A.D. one thousand eight hundred and forty four
Jane Underwood
The above affidavit was [illegible]  is
and sworn to Sept, 1845, before
me, by the person whose name as 
deponent is hereby subscribed thereto &
whom I know, and certify to be a
respectable person certified to credence
John Crawford
A Judge of Chemung Co
Common pleas
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State of New York
County of Chemung:

Henry Gardner of the town of Hornby Steuben Co. in said State being duly
Sworn, deposes and says, that deponent
for several years next preceding the death
of the late Phebe Haines of Hornby in
said Steuben Co. was well acquainted with
said Phebe, who, for several years
next preceding her said decease resided
in said  Hornby, and was the Mother
of Simon Haines who also for several
years next preceding his late removal to the State of Illinois resided in
said Hornby, and said Phebe was also
reported uniformly, & as deponent
[illegible] to be true, to be the Widow
of the late or former Simon Haines
a pensioner of the United States
and deponent never heard or knew
of any other Phebe Haines in said
Hornby.
Deponent further says that said
Phebe Haines departed this life
at said Hornby on the 11th day of
February in the year of our Lord
one thousand Eight hundred and forty four
Henry Gardner
The above affidavit was subscribed
and sworn to the 8th day of Sept 1845
before me by the person whose name
as deponent, is subscribed thereto
whom I know, and whom certify
to be a reputable person entitled to
credence-
John Crawford, a Judge
of Chemung Com pleas
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State of New York Chemung
County Clerks Office
I Simeon L Rood Clerk
of said County do hereby certify that John Crawford Esq
before whom the within and annexed affidavits were taken
was at the date of taking the same a Judge of the County Courts
held in and for said County duly commissioned and authorized
to act as such. And further that I am well acquainted with
the hand writing of the said Judge and verify believe his
Signatures officially subscribed to each of said affidavits
to be genuine.

In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set
my hand and affixed my official Seal
at Elmira this 11th day of September AD 1845
S.L. Rood Clerk
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State of Illinois
County of DuPage

I, Simon Haines, of the [illegible] of DuPage in the County of DuPage
and State of Illinois, being duly sworn
depose and say that deponent is the
Son of Simon Haines, a Pensioner
of the United States of America who
departed this life, at the town of Russia
Herkimer Co. State of N. York, on the 24th
day of July, 1836, where he resided ten
or eleven years next preceding his
death and who for several years
previous to this said residence in Russia
he resided at German Flatts in said
Co, of Herkimer and who previous 
thereto resided in Stanstead, lower
Canada, and previous thereto, he
resided in Pembroke in the State of
New Hampshire That Phebe
Haines, the widow of said Simon and
Mother of deponent survived said
Father, and for several years next preceding
her death resided in Home
Steuben Co, State of New York as deponent believes, where
she died on or about the 24 day of
February 1844 -
Deponent further says, that the only
children of either said Parents, who
survived said Mother are as follows
with their respective names & ages,
[illegible]; this deponent aged fifty seven years seven
months, and no others.
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Deponent further says, that deponent is
fully willing that Hiram Gardner, of
said Hornby, Administrator of the said
Phebe Haines, should [illegible] and
every sum and sums of money that may
be due to or coming to deponent, for
or on account of any Pension or Pensions
to which said parents or either
of them were entitled, from said United
Simon Haines
⎬
The foregoing was duly
subscribed and sworn to
this 1st day of September 1845
before me by Simon Haines
whom I know to be the
person whose name is
above subscribed, and
whom I certify to be a
creditable and reputable
person
James F Wight Justice of the Peace
State of Illinois
County of DuPage
J. Allan McIntosh
Clerk of said County, do certify, that the

person whose name officially is to
the above deposition subscribed was
at the date of the same such officer as
his above official certificate purports
and that I am well acquainted with
the hand writing of the
said officer, and verify [illegible] the
above subscribed signature (official)
paid person, to said Deposition, or
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to  the Jurat thereof, is his proper handwriting and signature Witness my hand official seal, this first day of September 1845 
A McIntosh Clerk
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I hereby certify that I Simon Haines assign and
and transfer to Alpheus Warner all my write
and title to a pention now due or that may
hereafter become due to Phebe Haines Widow
of Simon Hains pentioner Deiseau
Dated at Hornby Sept the 25th 1843
Send and Delivered
in presence of Henry Gardner
Simon Haines
-
State of New York
Chemung County ss:
Henry Garden of
Hornby, Steuben Co, in said State being duly
Sworn, depose and say, that deponent Sam
Simon Haines late of said Hornby execute
and deliver to Alpheus Warner of said Hornby
the assignment above to this deposition
attached and that the same bears a
true date, that deponent for several
years before the date of  said assignment
was well and personally acquainted with
said Haines and Warner and with Phebe
Haines, the Mother of said Haines, and
know the identity of said S. Hanes and
be Haines and Phebe Haines
who departed this life some time last winter
was reputed, and deponent believes truly
to be a Pensioner of the United States, &
the Mother of said S Haines, and that
at the date of said [illegible] 
said S. Haines was reputed to be the
only known descendant of said Phebe
Haines, except said S. Haines children
Deponent further says that said assignment was given
upon an agreement
between said parties hereto said S. Haines
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being then about to remove, as he [illegible] did to
one of the Western States, that said
Haines in consideration thereof should
support said Phebe Haines during
her natural life, and said Haines
did support said Phebe during her
natural life comfortably & respectably,
and said Haines during the time he
supported said Phebe, weded [illegible]
neighbor to deponent
Henry Gardner
Sworn and subscribed
this 11th day of November
in the year 1844 before me
John Crawford
a Judge of Chemung Co
Common pleas
I am acquainted with the above named
Henry Gardner and certify to his good
moral character
John Crawford
a Judge Pc
State of New York Chemung
County Clerk's Office
●I Simeon L Rood Clerk
of said County and also
Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County do
hereby certify that John Crawford Esquire before whom
the foregoing Deposition was taken, and whose name is
subscribed to the above certificate was at the time of taking
said Deposition a Judge of the Court held in and for said
County duly commissioned and qualified according to
law, and authorized to take said Deposition and that I
and will acquainted with the hand writing of the said John
Crawford and verify believe his signatures above written to be genuine.
Witness my hand & official Seal this 14th November 1844
S.L. Rood Clerk
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I Israel Chesley of Lee in the County of Strafford and State of
Newhampshire [New Hampshire] present Pastor of the first Christian Church
in said town on oath depose and say that having had my residence
in the town of Lee for twenty three years I have never been able to
to find any church records that were kept by Elder Hutchins
also that since the death of Elder Orsborne I have not been able to
find any records kept by him or any other person a church has
since been organized a part of which is composed of those that
were considered members of the church of which Elder Orsborne
was pastor, said church of which Elder Orsborne was pastor was
originally composed in part of those that were considered members of
the church of which Elder Hutchins was pastor all the members of
the last named church of which Elder Hutchins was pastor are
now dead therefore of course no record can be found of the marriage
of Simon Haines and Phebe Page which is said to have been
solemnized in the year 1781
Israel Chesley
April 24th 1841. Then personally appeared the above
named Israel Chesley and made solemn oath that the
above deposition by him subscribed is true
Before me
N.D. Pendergast Jus Peace
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STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE.
OFFICE OF SECRETARY OF STATE.
J JOSIAH STEVENS, JR. Secretary of the State aforesaid, do hereby certify
that N.D. Pendergast is an acting Justice of the Peace in
and for the County of Strafford duly Commissioned and qualified; that
his Commission was dated on the twenty ninth day of June
1838
and will expire on the twenty ninth day of June, 1843 and that
his signature to the annexed instrument is genuine
Given under my hand and the Seal of said State this Seventh
day of March 1841
Josiah Stevens
Secretary of State.
Page 39

I Thomas B. Hall of Lee in the County of
Strafford & State of New Hampshire, Town Clerk of
said Town of Lee & having the care of the records
of said town, on oath depose & say, I have carefully
examined the records of said town of Lee up to
January 11th in the year of our Lord One Thousand seven
hundred and ninety four in order to find the record of
the Marriage of Simon Hains & Pheby Page and
I hereby certify & depose on oath that up to the first of
January in the year of our Lord, One Thousand seven hundred
and ninety four there is no record of such Marriage,
and I further certify & depose on oath that there is
not on said Records, any record of any date of the
Marriage of Simon Hairs to Pheby Page
Thomas B. Hall, Town Clerk

March 3 1841. Then personally appeared the above
named Ths [Thomas]. B. Hall and made Solemn Oath that
the above deposition by him subscribed is true
Before me
A.D. Pendergart Justice Peace
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State of New York
Steuben County

Simon Haines, of the town of
Hornbey [Hornby], in the County and State aforesaid, being
duly sworn on his oath depose and says, that
this Deponent is the son of Simon Haines (Deceased)
and Phebe Haines, That the father of this Deponent
said Simon Haines, Deceased) was a Pensioner of
the Revolutionary Army, of the United States of America,
and as such Pensioner, for several years previous to his said Decease,
drew from the United States
a pension.
And this Deponent further says that this
Deponent's said father departed this life on or about
the twenty fourth day of July AD one thousand eight
hundred and thirty six, in the town of Russia in the
County of Herkimer and State of New York, at which
place he had resided for some years next preceding his death.

And this deponent further says,
that the mother of this Deponent (said Phebe Haines) now resides with
the family of this deponent, in the town of Hornby
County of Steuben and State aforesaid, and that she is
and has been ever since the death of Deponents said
father as aforesaid, sole and unmarried-
And further Deponent says not
Subscribed & sworn to
this 6 day of March 1840
Simon Haines
Before me
Isaac Goodsell
Comm of Deeds
Page 41

State of New York
Steuben County ss
I William Hamilton Clerk
the said County do certify that Isaac
Goodsell before whom the preceding
affidavit purports to have been
Sworn was at the date of the same
a Commissioner of Deeds
and that I am acquainted with his hand writing
and verily believe his name subscribed to
the said affidavit to be his proper handwriting
and signature
Witness my hand and seal
of office this 11th day of March 1840
Wm Hamilton Clerk
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Miriam Gardner Adm
of Phebe Haines
-
Supplemental Proof
for Arrears of Pension
(Letters of Admin on file)
E. J. Salubria  N.Y.
Atty for Admr
Page 43

State of New York
Chemung County ss.
Leroy Haines of his
in said County being duly sworn, deposes
and says, that deponent is a Grandson
of Phebe Haines, deceased lately and for some
time next previous to her decease (which occurred
as deponent believes in March last) of Hornby, Steubens 
Co, N. York State, that deponent was well
acquainted with said deponents said Grandmother, from deponent's boyhood, and that said
deceased, previous to her decease, was a pensioner
of the United States. Deponent further says, that
deponent's Grand-Father [grandfather], (the husband of said
Phebe, and who deponent well & familiarly
herein from deponent's boyhood, departed this
life, according to deponents best recollection
and belief in August, 1836, at the town of
Russia, Herkimer Co. in said State.
Deponent further says, that the only surviving
child of said Grand Parents or of either
of them is Simon Haines, who is the father
of deponent, and who, for several years next preceding last fall resided
in said Hornby where he removed
to Kane Co, Illinois and with whom
deponent resided usually during deponents minority, and whom deponent familiarly knew
Deponent further says, that previously to deponents
said Father removing to Illinois, deponent heard
said Father repeatedly state, that said Father
had made an arrangement with Alpheus Warner of said Hornby, which as was agreed that
Page 44

said Warner should support said Phebe
during her natural life, and in consideration thereof, should receive, so far as deponent's said Father was concerned said
Phebes Pension Money from the United States.
Leroy Haines
Subscribed & Sworn to
June 7th, 1844, before
me, E. Quin Sup Court
Commissioner
-
State of New York
Chemung County Ss: George E. Quin, of
Wise, in said County being duly sworn, deposes
and says, that deponent is well acquainted with
Alpheus Warner, named in the foregoing affidavit, and also with Miriam
Gardner, of said Hornby, who was appointed by the Surrogate of Steuben Co. N. York Administrator of the Estate of Phebe Haines
also named in said affidavit, and
that deponent has heard said Warner
say that said Gardner was appointed
such administrator, at the insistance, & on
the expense of said Warner to enable
said Warner to [illegible] said Phebe's
Pension Money from the United States,
and which facts deponent has heard
said Gardner fully admit, and said
Gardner declared his intention, upon
receipt of said Pension Money, to pay
the same to said Warner
Subscribed & Sworn to
⎬
June 7th 1844 before me
E. Quin Sup Court Commissioner ⎬
[illegible signature] Quin
Page 45

6910
Phebe Haines
NY
Act 7 July '38
Page 46

State of 1 Strafford New Hampshire County ss, I Thomas B. Hall, of the town of Lee in said County and State aforesaid, being duly sworn deposes and says that Deponent is Clerk of the said town of Lee in said County and State aforesaid, and has in his possession the Records of said Town And Deponent further says, that he has made a full careful and accurate examina time of said Records of said town, and that there is no Record made in the Records of said town of the marriage of Simon Haines, to Phebe Paige, And deponent further says that Deponent is informed and believes that the inhabitants of said town, at an early day and particularly about the period of the Revolutionary War were very negligent about recording Marriages or curring in said town- And further Deponent says not scribed & Sworn to Thos B Hall Town Clerk 6th day of March 1840 Before me, S.W. Hitt Justice of the Peace a I hereby certify that the above named Thos Hall is town Clerk of the town of Lee for the time being - - G.W. Hitt Justice Peace
Page 47

(top of page - written sideways
6910
Phebe Haines
N.Y. 
Act 6 July (18)'38

(bottom of page)
State of New Hampshire 
Strafford County ss
I Frances Cogswell Clerk of the Superior Court for said County hereby certify that Graham W. Hoitt Esquire is an acting Justice of the Peace within and for said County duly commissioned and qualified. That his commission was dated the 17th June 1836 and and will expire the 16th June 1841 and that being acquainted with his signature I have no doubt the written signatures purporting to be his are genuine

Given under my hand and Seal of said Court this 7th day of March 1840
(signed) F Cogswell Clerk 
(seal affixed)
Page 48

Pension Paper 
Phebe Peper Haines 
Applicant 
in cert of time of Death 
of Simon Haines 

(Note back of page contains columns of figures not transcribed as they appear unrelated)
Page 49

Herkimer County ss

On the 9th day of Aug(ust) 1836 Before John Post a Commissioner + Justice of the Peace of Russia in the County aforesaid personally appeared William Grebb
Page 50

State of New Hampshire 
Merrimack ss

I Sally Fogg of Northwood in the county of Rockingham and State of New Hampshire depose and say that I am now eighty one years of age, that I am the sister of Mrs. Phebe Haines of the town of Homely in the County of Steuben and State of New York.  That said sister(said Phebe Haines) is the widow of the late Simon Haines who was a revolutionary pensioner of the United States of America. 

And deponent further says, that the maiden names of said Phebe Haines was Phebe Paige, that said Phebe was married to said Simon Haines on or about the twentieth day of November one thousand seven hundred and eighty one, that said marriage took place at the house of the Reverend Mr. Hutchins in the town of Lee,  in the County of Strafford and State of New Hampshire, aforesaid. And that this deponent was then and there personally present, as one of the guests, at said marriage and said marriage of said Phebe and Simon Haines solemnized.  And further deponent says that said marriage was solemnized by the Reverend Mr. Hutchins who was that time a minister of the Gospel residing at Lee aforesaid.  And deponent further says that since the time of said marriage up to the time of the decease of said Simon Haines. the said Phebe and Simon Haines resided together as man and wife and
Page 51

that Simon Haines of the town of Homely in the county of Steuben and State of New York (with whom said Phebe Haines now resides) is the son of said Phebe and Simon Haines 

And further said deponent saith not

(signed) Sally Fogg X her mark 

Merrimack ss Pittsfield February 27th AD 1840
Subscribed and Sworn to
Before me
(signed) R T Leavitt Justice of the Peace

State of New Hampshite}
Merrimack County} sct

I Stephen C. Badger Clerk of the Superior Court of Judicature of the County and State aforesaid, do hereby certify that Reuben T Leavitt is an acting Justice of the Peace and of the Quorum in and for said county. duly commissioned and qualified;  that his commission was dated on the eight day of January 1838 and will expire on the eighth day of January 1943,  and that his signature above written is genuine.  

Given under my hand and the seal of said county this seventh day of March 1840

(signed) S. C. Badger Clerk
Page 52

Washington City D.C.
House of Rep(resentative)s
27 March 1844

Col J. L Edwards
?
In this I hand you some papers which is(sic) from my constituents your early reply will oblige

Your M(ost Ob(ebient) S(e)r(vant)

(signed ) Wm. S. Hubbell
Page 53

(sideways on an envelope)
March 16 (18)43

Phebe Haines
Ny? '38
6212 38

Geo(rge) Rump Esq. 
Acting Pension Com(mi)tee
Pension Dept. 
Washington City
Page 54

Salubria Mar(ch) 8 1843

D(ear) Sir

I write you at the ins(is)tance of Mrs. Phebe Haines, an old lady and widow of a Revolutionary Pensioner.  Mrs. Haines in 1838, drew pension money as such widow.  

She has been informed that since 1838 there has been a Law passed giving further pension to widows and children of Rev, Soldiers

Will you please ? my giving copy of the Pension Law (if any) and such information as Dep(artment)t to furnish agents &c 

I am already under many obligations to the Pension Dep(artmen)t for favors similar to the one now asked .  

I ask now for the widow and not for myself.  I acted as her Att(orney) in the application in 1838. I should be happy to render any Service in my power now but enough of this 
Please early answer & oblige

(signed)  ? G. E Quinn

(Note:  the word changing is crossed out following (if any) in the document(
Page 55

Matter of Phebe 
Haines Arrears of 
Pension

Additional Proof
for Adm(ission);s for Cert. 

E Quinn, Salubria
N. Y, Att(orne)y
Page 56

Matter of Phebe
Haines 

R? f? &c

E Quinn
Salubria N.Y. 
Att(orney)

Adm's application 
for cert. for Am?
Page 57

Salubria, N.Y. Nov. 13th '44 J.L. Edwards, Esq. Dear Sir:
An application was some year or less ago submitted to you, in behalf of Hiram Gardner, Adm'r of Phebee Haines, DC'd, for [illegible], to obtain her Pension pay, under Act of Mar 3d, 1843, which was refused, for the reasons noted in your Comm'n to Hon Wm S. Hubbell M.C. of May 6, 1844 - Copy of which you had the kindness to enclose me, under cover of date Sept. 30th, '44.
Enclosed is proof which it is hoped will satisfy, connected with proof already on file you 
Herewith send proof that Simon Haines, only child of Phebee, assigned, before her death, his expectant interest in the Pension, to procure her to be supported, and which was done. We submit that such assignt is valid as same was before her death, and a mere expectant interest - 
 This means Haines entitled to the part, and the only son assenting to the part, to Haines [crossed out: May] by this asignment,
 I refer you to the papers filed with you, to procure pension for Phebe Haines about May 1841, to them when the [illegible]Simon Haines died [crossed out:  I refer you] See Deposition there of Simon Haines (younger-- When this afft, was made Simon Haines younger, had no interest --- 
Please give this case attention as soon as your convenience will permit Rcy &c E. Quin
Page 58

6910
Pension Papers [illegible]
Mar. 25, 1840
NY
7 July 1838

Salubria March 21

Phebe Haines wid of Simon


JL Edwards Esq
War Dept
Pension Office
Washington City D.C
Page 59

Salubria New York
March 21st 1840
De Sr
Enclosed are Deposition in the application of Mrs. Phebe Haines, for an half pay pension under the act of 7th July 1838.
I trust you will find them satisfactory- There is one difference or variance in the deposition of Mrs Haines and that of her sister Mrs S Fogg, towit, Mrs H deposed that she was married in 1780 - Mrs Fogg in 1781. they agree to the main fact-- I account for the variance as a consequence of their advanced age, (see deposition of both) and lapse of time since 1781- 
Should you think her entitled to a certificate please send the same direct them or E Quin Esq of this place,
 I trust I shall hear from you soon on the subject - Most Resp'y Geo E. Quin
J L Edwards, Esq. Pension Office
Page 60

May 5. 1840
Phebe Haines
[illegible]
Geo W. Crump Esq
Acting Cmmis
War Dept
Pension Office
Washington
Page 61

[unknown] Apr 29- 1840

Dr Sr

On the 21st March last I enclosed the dr. positions of wits' together with the declaration of Mrs Haines, in her application for a half pay pension from which have not yet heard-
I take the liberty of addressing you again on the subject, asking that at the earliest opportunity you will give the same your attention - 
I should not now write you but Mrs H is poor and stands in need of assistance, consequently the sooner she realized this, the more conducive to her welfare - 
Most Res'y Yours
Geo Edw Quin

[unknown]
Acting Com'r of Pensions 
New York, [unknown]
Page 62

Dec 26

Phebe P. Haines

free
J L Edwards Esq
Pension Agent
War Office
Washington
Distric of Columbia
Salubria 
Dec 18
Page 63

Pension Claim
Clairmont,

Phebe Piper Haines Widow of late
Simon Haines, Revolutionary Pensioner
Claimants maiden name, Phebe Piper Paige
J.L. Edwards Esq-
Permit me to write you, at the instance of the above claimant, in relation to her claim. Mrs Haines informs me he was married to Mr H. a
short time before the close of the Revolutionary War,
that she was married in the town of Lee, State of N.H.
I learn from the Clerk of the town of Lee that there
is no record of the marriage in the town Books from
the great lapse of time since the marriage
I am induced to think proof of actual Marriage
cannot be obtained. Yet Mrs H is enabled to
show by satisfactory evidence that she and her late
husband have ever from the time of their marriage
until his death lived together as man & wife recognized each other as such, and raised a family of children - will not such testimony be satisfactory,
and excuse further proof.
The original Certificate of Mr H was placed
by claimant in the hands of a Mr Stanton, of Russia,
Herkimer Co. N.Y. to enable him to draw the back pension
of H. At his (Mr H.) Decease, was this lodged in the Pension Office?

 You would confer a favor on Mrs Haines
by writing me in answer to the above, as soon as the
business of your office will permit.
Please state particularly what proof will be
required to excuse Record proof of marriage, or proof
by these present-
Most Respectfully your Obedient
Servant
Geo. E.. Quinn,
-
Sabella, N.Y. Dec 18th 1889.
Page 64

State of Illinois
Kane County 
I do hereby appoint, constitute & authorize John Wentworth as my legal & lanfield attorney, to receive and settle the pension which may be due me as the sone of Phebe Haines, and to do all other acts which may be (nicepany?) to be [unknown] in relation thereto the same as I could do myself

Simon Haines
Subscribed & acknowledge 
before me this 12th day of December of 1848 in [unknown] whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the Probate Court of Kane County 
Alexander V. Sill
Probate Justice
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House of Representatives
Dec 28th 1848.
Dear Sir,
I enclose you the papers
of Simon Haines who applied for
the arrears of a Pension due his
Mother Phebe Haines, I believe I
have all the requisite proof.

Please answer this soon as possible
Respectfully yours,
Wenlett
Hon J L Edwards
Page 66

Phebe Haines
Wid [widow] of
Simeon
New York
Act July 7 1838
Allan
$80 per
annum from July 24
1836.
Edw Quin Esq.
Salubria
New York
Page 67

June 10, 1844

NY
[illegible]
Phebe Haines [illegible]

Deserving prompt attention
6712
N.Y. [illegible] 36

James L Edwards, Esq.
Common of Pensions,
Washington
City
Page 68

Salubria, N. York, June 6th, 1844. 
Dear Sir,
Enclosed are further papers on behalf of Hiram Gardner, whose proof of Letters Adm'n upon Estate of Phebe Haines were lately sent you, Your Comm'n of 6th May '44 requires further proof, which sent, is now supplied, and if so, the [illegible] order for Adm'n to obtain Arrear of Pension, you are respectfully requested to forward at your earliest convenience.
I know your Bureau must adhere to prescribed requisites, and, of course, your labors are arduous, and applicants should not, and hence I will not allow myself, to complain; but really there seems an intricacy and embarrassment about some of these cases, that far exceeds in trouble and expense the moderate Amt. sought, 
Re'ly Yours,
EQuin [illegible]
Salubria, N.Y.
Page 69

from
J L Edwards  Esq
Court of Pensions
Pension Dept
Washington City
D.C.

1. Marela 1844
relg
Mrs. Massey & Mr. Haines
Page 70

Salubria Chemung County New York
Feby 23-- 1844-
J L Edwards Esq
I am in rect [receipt] of your circular & letter
of 17th inst on the subject of Mrs Mapes Claim.
I have also procured from Mr
Baker of Bennett your letter to him of August [illegible], & have thus
Written
one Comptroller, Albany, for the [illegible] Endece Squire
and hope to submit this matter to [illegible] within a very few days upon satisfactory proof on the premises

I am induced to write you again on
an other claim
that of Phebe [illegible] of Phebe
Haines, widow of Simon Haines, for [whatever] pension was
down in 1842,

Mrs Haines died about a month since at
the residence of Alpheus Warner in whose family
she had resided for the last year past expecting
in stipend to reimburse Mr W  for trouble & re-
Page 71

penses. Simon Haines the only surviving child
of late Mrs Harris resides in one of the Western States,
{crossed over} and this [illegible] to Mr. W. 
is willing
Mr W should have the stipend of Mrs H
Is it allowable by pension office regulations to draw
pension of Decd [Deceased] under Act of Congress of March 3, 1843
by person acting in capacity of loyal administrator having
letters duly issued for such purpose
or is Son of Decd [deceased] the only person permitted to
draw?
I write you as having this information
under the impression that granting
my request will be no violation of your regulations- 
and such information
may enable me to act more advisedly than I otherwise could.

May I ask your surely reply

I remain most respectfully my
Dear Sir you Ov [obedient} Servt [Servant]
Geo E Quin
Page 72

July 28m 1845
[Stamped July 24, Lubria, N. Y.]
Rec of Phebe Haines

James L. Edwards, Esq,
Com. Pensions,
Washington City,
Dist. Columbia
Page 73

Salubria, N.Y. July 24th, 1845.

Dear Sir, Allow me to task your patience further,
touching Arrears of Pension care of Phebe Haines,
late of Hornby, Steuben Co. dec'd [deceased], long deferred
and about which I have troubled you
much. I have never made myself as
familiar with Pensions & should be to
interfere with them, and hence have to
ask your increased patience-
Your Comm of May 6-44, to Hon. Wm S.
Hubbell, Copy of which you sent me, among
other requisites, informs that "Disinterested
testimony as to the time when Mr. Haines died
must also be produced".
All requisites except that above quoted
from your Letter, we expect soon satisfactorily
to comply with - the point is to finish
this.

I since May 6,- 44, date Comm to Mr. Hubbell
addressed you, asking, among other points,
whether the proof required by your above
quoted remark, could not be found,
among the papers upon which
the deceased Phebe Haines [Simon Haines scratched out]
was originally placed on Pension
Roll and made available for present purpose, toward , to
mean what above quotation requires-
Your Comment to me, of Feb 28-1845- states that
 nothing can be done, until we comply
with comment to Mr. Hubbell of May 6-44.

I thought perhaps, this remark, was in
reference specially to the other requisites
of Comment of May 6-44-- and now have
to request, whether the proof before you,
or placing Phebe Haines on Roll, is not ┃
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proof sufficient of the decease of old Mr Haines.

Among those papers filed, you will find
affis [affidavits] of Wm Webb & Harvey Combs, made
Aug 8-1836, on her application for Pension
Allow me to suggest, whether it is not
the decease of Phebe Haine, instead of
Mr Haines, of which you require disinterested proof.
Mr. Hains death must
have been satisfactorily proved to put
the Widow on the Pension Roll, and
hence & am unable to understand
(perhaps in ignorance is the cause), why
proof must now be made, that must
have been fully known before P. Haines
was admitted on the Roll.

Your Comment, of May 6 - 44, says the decease
of  "Mr. Haines" perhaps this is an in
Advertency.

Please favor with ans [answer], and, if we must
[illegible] about for this further proof we
will - but shall find it difficult to
get at this time.

Reis Yones
E. Quin
Page 75

Salubria, N.Y. Sept, 16-44,

Dear Sir, Long time ago I sent you papers
for pension certificate, requisite to
enable Admn of deceased Pensioner
to receive back pay in the case of
Phebe Haynes, dec'd, and Hiram Gardner her admin.
No answer, since I last sent you papers,
have been hastened.
Please inform on the subject,
[Respectfully] Yours
E. Quin
Page 76

July 11, 46 [Stamped Salubria, N. Y.]
J.L. Edwards, Esq.
Commr Pensions
⎬
Washington

July 11, 1846
[illegible]
Phebe Haines
Page 77

Suburbia Chemmung Co July Co. July 6th. 1846 
J.L. Edwards, Esq. 

Sir 
Your favor of 2nd ins(tant), help? the appli(catio)n of Adm(inistrato)r of Phebe Haines for arrears of Pension, rec(eive)d from which I learn, the claim is still suspended for Proof of greater certainly that each dec(ease)d, left surviving offspring, 

Allow me to request your attention to the affi(davit) of Leroy Haines (taken in one of the Western States) which deposes, that he is the son and only surviving offspring of dec(ease)d, and that affidavits taken in Chemmung Co, the Same those, last sent you.  The aff(idavit) of Leroy Haines was sent you Sometime previously.

This claim for small arrears has been long pending. until the trouble and expense exceeds the am(oun)t,  Your Comm(unicatio)n of Oct. 28th. '45, confirmed (or confined) the  objection to the "want of the Certificate of a Com? of Record" and had hoped that and all other objections could now be overcome and requisite certificate granted; which I hope re-exam(inatio)n, of the papers will realize 

Very Truly Yours 
(signed) E. Quinn
Page 78

Sept(ember) 28. 1845
Re 
Phebe Haines dc
for arrears 

James L. Edwards, Esq. 
Comm(issione)r of Pensions
Washington City
Page 79

Salubria, n. Y. Sept. 25th, 1845

Ja(me)s L. Edwards Esq. 

D(ear) Sir, 

Enclosed are papers (supplemental) on application of Grandson and Son, of late Widow Phebe Haines, for Arrears of Pension, which I trust, will be found in accordance with your Comm(unicatio)n of 6th May 1844 to Hon. S Hubbell. 

Please for(ward), desired cert(ification), at your earliest convenience. 

(signed) R(espectfully?) Y(ours) &c E. Quin
Page 80

April 27, 1846
?
Phebe Haines

(faint) Lorham? N. York 

(stamped) SALUBRIA N.Y. 
APR(IL) 22
Hon. Commissioner of Pensions 
Washington City 
Dist(rict), Columbia
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Salubria, Chemming Co. N. Y. April 21, '46

Hon(orable) Comm(issione)r Pensions, 

Sir. 
You will doubtless recognize the Pension claim in relation to which enclosed aff(idavi)t is sent you.  This affi(idavi)t with other proof taken last year In Illinois, I sent completes the proof requisite to enable you to forward requisite voucher.  That will enable A(dministrator?) of deceased Phebe Haines, to Order A(rrange(ment)) of Pension Money. 

Attention to this at your earliest convenience will confer a favor.  

(signed) 
R(especffully?) Yours E Quin
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Salubria Chemmung Co. N.Y. July 16-'47
J. L Edwards, Esq, Comm(issione)r of Pensions 

Sir, 

I crave your further patience touching Arrears of Pension of Phebe Haines, de(ceased), which has been pending several years, and about which I have troubled you much, and had much trouble myself.  To endeavor to procure cert(ificate) of Pension to enable her only surviving child, (Son) or the (other) Adm(inistrato)r to such pay.  

The facts are she died here, the Son and only child surviving having previously removed there, a benevolent neighbor having , by agreement with the dec(ease)d & Son, kept her until her death, upon agreement to have Pension for pay, and having done so, and an A(dministrato)r app(lie)d and Son wiling he would draw from & pay the person such a(s) kept her.  

Proof of all these matters, death of her, affi(davi)t, Rep. consent of son, no children, and all facts that are understood tp be requisite to ? proper Cert.  (her original having before her death, be? o? a agent) have been for(warded) Dept.  

The case is a hard one, and if Cert(ificate) cannot be had on papers Send, allow me to ask that forms be cited to the Case, and your valuable suggestions to a(foresaid) may be furnished. to facilitate the matter. 

(signed) Res(pectfully Yours) &c E. Quin
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Nov, 18, 1844
Add(itiona)l tes? case of 
Phebe Haines 
(stamped) ELMIRA N.Y. Nov 15
act 3 March'43

FREE

J. L. Edwards, Esq. 
Comm(issione)r Pensions
Washington City
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Please report in this case & say whether the evidence is sufficient
J. Wentworth.
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Pension Office 
February 28th, 1848. 

Sir. 
I have the honor to return herewith, Mr. Burchels' letter, and to inform you that any arrears that
may be due in the case of Phebe Haines, dec(ease)d widow of Simon Haines are payable to her children if there be any now living, who should file an application, under oath, and produce the certificate of a Court of record, giving their names and place of residence, and sharing also the date of her death.  

if there be no surviving child, the law does not recognize the existence of a claim.  Nothing has been paid to E. Quinn, of Salubria New York, on account of arrears in the case!

I have the honor to be 
Very Respectfully 
Your Ob(iedient) Serv(ant)
(signed) G. Wm Crump

Hon. John Wentworth
House of Representatives
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Apr(il) 19 '44

Mrs Haynes 
? ?
See
6212 NY
? '38

J. L. Edwards Esq. 
Comm(issione)r of Pensions
Washington City
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Salubria, N.Y. Apl 15, 44
Dr Sr [Dear Sir]
Yours of 27th att, acknowledging
receipt of my letter of Feb, atto, rec'd
My Commu[illegible] papers in pension case
of Mrs. Haines, Widow Pensioner.
You wholly overlooked the object of these
papers, the design is, to procure for
the Administrator of dec'd Widow
(the Widow herself having been a
Pensioner in her own right) requisite
certificate to enable Admistrator to [illegible]
arrears of Pension Money
Please refer to the papers and
forward requisite Pension certificate
with the least convenient delay
[illegible] Yours
E Quin
Lately I sent you pension papers in the
care of Adam Palmer, whether my name
was given as Atty for applicant, I know not.
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[numbers illegible]
Phebe Hames
Wd of Simon
All
act 3 March 1843
Admn $80.00 per an[annum]
from 4 March 1843 to 11 Feby [February]
1844, the day of her death
payable to Simon Haines
only surviving child of
Phebe Haines decd [deceased]

State to the agent that Mrs.
Haines was paid under the act
17 July 1838, in New York that
at the time of her death she was a
resident of the County of Steuben
NY
John Wentworth
[illegible]
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Treasury Department
Third Auditor's Office
the
October 12. 1848.
Sir
The enclosed papers, which appear to have been forwarded by you, were this day received from the pension Office. On examination, I have the honor to inform you
that I find the pension of Phebe Haines, deceased, under the
act of 7th July 1838, has been paid in full to 4th March 1841. Her name not having been continued under the Act of 3d March 1843, nothing further can be paid
through this office on account of her pension. The first point to be attained by her heirs, is, to obtain a certificate of pension under the last mentioned Act from the
Pension Office. The amount then due will be payable at the Agency designated in the certificate.
I enclose the form of an Oath of identity of the child, marked
F. which will be required in addition to the certificate of
Court enclosed and the pension certificate.
With great respect
Your Ob. Serv.
Peter Hagner Aud

Hon. John Wentworth
Chicago, Ill[Illinois]
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May 13. 1849
[illegible] N.Y.
[illegible]
Phebe Haines
[illegible] Lee of N.H.

Salubria
May 6

Pension Ap

J L Edwards Esq
Com of Pensions
Washington C
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Salubria N.Y May6, 1841

In Mrs. Phebe Haines}
Pension Claim}

D(ea)r Sir

Enclosed I send you Aff(idavi)t of Tho(mas) B. Hall, town Clerk of Lee, also aff(idavi)t of Elder Israel ?, ? of Rev(eren)d Mr. Hutchins on question of there being no Record of Marriage of the Applicate to Simon Haines, Pensioner &c, also certificate to one of Affi(ant)? (sufficient for both) of the official character of the officer before whom those aff(idavit)s was taken.  You intimated in your letter pf tje 12th of May 1840 that upon this evidence being produced you would admit the evidence of Mrs. Fogg, on the question of the marriage of Mr + Mrs. Haines.  

I hope now the evidence will be found satisfactorily full, and the application will receive your earliest attention  

You will please address your communication to me or E. Quinn, Esq. at this place 

Very Res(pectfull)y  &c Your Ob(iedient)t Servant 
Geo. Edw. Quin

P.S. This application was submitted in March 1840, see my letter of that date.
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? & Hon. John Wentworth 
Feb 28 '48

Hon. J. Wentworth  S 3rd
Aud(?)r 11 Oct. 1848
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N. York 
Phebe Haines
let to G. E. Quin 12 May 1840

Act July 1838
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Simon Haines N.Y Albany 80 $ act7 June '32 last paid? G Wm Crump

 15 May '41
Died 24th July 1836 p(ai)d to that period I.H.
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Simon Haines N.Y act 1818 applied in 1819 and his papers were returned to D. Holt. N.Y. for add(itiona)l proof
June 10th 1819

no papers now on file.
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Phebe Haines dec(ease)d
? letter 6 May 1844
to Hon. W. S. Hubbell
to E. Quin Sept. 30 1844
" D Holt  8 February 1815?.
"d(itt)o 29 Aug '45
" d(itt)o 25 Oct '45
" same 2 July '46
" same Aug 19, '46
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N.H.R. 
Simon Haines
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BRIEF. objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative in red ink, will apply to the claim of Simon Haines Herkimer N York which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does this  declaration show where the applicant resides?  Yes
II.  Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?  Yes.
III.  If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?  Yes
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?  Yes.
VI.  Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?  Yes
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim t any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes 
IX.  Has the Clerk given his certificate?
X. Is the  Clerk's seal affixed?  And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?  Yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service.  No

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?  No 

XIII.  If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? 
Yes 

XIV. (cross) If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?  (no answer)
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?  Yes
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?  Yes

XV.  Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?  (no answer)

XVI.  (double cross) Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?  Yes 

XVII.  Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily?  And, if not, which of them is not so answered?  (no answer)

EXPLANATORY NOTES. 
*QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how
long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he
cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection
he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For     year       months, and 
   days,    I served as a               .   For      months and days, I served as         ; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served,
and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the
pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite
, and all such qualifying expressions are
objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions
merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the
officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objection
able. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration
of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the
applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either
in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed
in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must
prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of
the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the
regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate
must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not
written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate
must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass
under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly
attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the
certifying officer, should accompany the papers.