Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 18041, Eli Hull, Conn.
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Conn. Hull, Eli S18041
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New York
Eli Hull,
deceased
Monroe Co in the State of New York
---
who was in the company commanded
by Captain
of the Regt commanded
by Col. Mays in the Coun
line for the war
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany
at the rate of 80 Dollars 00
Cents per annum,
to commence on the 34d day of March, 1826 & and 1st  
Febry 1840 when he died
Certificate of Pension issued the 14 day of Dec
1850
and sent to
Thomas Lumpkin, Present
Arrears to the 4th of
Semi-annual allowance ending
Payable to David Hull, his
only surviving child
Revolutionary Claim,
Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by J P Chase  
15 May 1828
Clerk,
Book A Vol. 1
Page
Reported
H. G. Wells Jun 2/15
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the matter
application
of
Eli Hull
for a pension
Original proceedings
H. Gay
attorney
Rochester
N. Y.
John Churchill
on Rolls of Swifts Regt Wells
Company - enlisted Jany 87
┃ made up in Co. S. B. Webbs
┃ regt 87
32275
Eli Hull
Rolls
Butlers Regt Capt
Ten Eyck Compy
enlisted 1 Jany 80 was. Meigs
Regt for 80 -
Swifts Regt
Eli Hull 1 Jany 80
A. Gay
Rochester
N. Y
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State of New York
Monroe County [illegible] on this sixteenth day of October Eighteen hundred & thirty four personally appeared before the Judges of the board of common [illegible] in & for the said county & State aforesaid John Bowman Esq [illegible] Judge Ira Carpenter [illegible] Smith & Roswell [illegible] Esquires Judges of said court Eli Hull a resident of the town of Murray district of Newcastle in Upper Canada aged seventy three years and about Eight months who being first duly [illegible] according to law doth on his outh making the following declarations in oder to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of [illegible] [illegible]June 7th 1832.  [illegible] he enlisted in the army of the United States in the year 1779 & in the month of March in that year, what day in particular applicant [illegible] state, nor is he positively certain of the year his memory having much failing in consequences of old age & sickness.  That his enlistment took place at Morristown in the State of New Jersey where the [illegible] which applicant enlisted & the Rhode Island troops were in winter quarters.  The regiment in which applicant enlisted was commanded by Colonel Mays Lieutenant Colonel Huntington, Mayor [illegible].  The regiment was the fourth regiment of the line & the company in which applicant served was the fourth company, but the Captains name and & names of the other officers he
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for the reason aforesaid cannot recollect. He enlisted as a private & as a substitute for one David Hitchcock, at least he understood that he took his place but applicants name was signed by himself to the [illegible] roll or book containing the names of the company - He did not enlist for any particular time but for the whole war and was call a "during the war's man".  the regiment was attached to the second brigade commanded by General Huntington - applicant staid with the regiment about two months at Morristown, after which they marched to Westfield then to Springfield then towards West Point where they weathered in tents during the winter of 1780 - In the spring they marched to Valentines hill where they had a slight skirmish with the British. They continued on the Banks of the Hudson up & down during the summer of 1780 and wintered again in the winter following in the huts opposite West Point.  The applicant continued during the following spring & until the time he was replaced as after mentioned with his replacement a [illegible] & that [illegible] and in the month of august he was drafted out of his regiment to join the expedition to Yorktown. [illegible] were drafted out to make four companies which were commanded to the best of applicant recollection by Colonel Hamilton and Major Fish
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and Captain Meed applicant thinks was the Captain of his company - After they were formed they marched through New Jersey, Pennsylvania Maryland & in to Virginia to Yorktown which applicant thinks they reached in September 1781 - was there about a month & then marched back again to West Point - During the time he was at Yorktown he was engaged in the [illegible] and his company did not leave till after the surrender of Lord Cornwallis - After his return to West Point he joined his old regiment which was soon after broken up and appliant was transferred to the regiment commanded by Colonel Herman Swift.  Lieutenant Colonel Starr the name of the Captain of the applicants or of the other officers the applicant for the reason aforesaid cannot recollect they witnessed at West Point & continued there till the Commencement of the following summer when on the first June 782 they were discharged from Colone Swift which was accordingly discharged by fine in consequences of the burning of a house where applicant resided - That applicant served the whole of the time above mentioned [illegible] from March 1779 to 1st June one thousand seven hundred & eighty two as a private - That he served not less than three years and two months - That in
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giving the names of the officers of the regiment in which he served he has forgotten to mentioned that shortly after he joined probable two or three months the colonel of the regiment was changed, and the regiment was commanded thereafterly Colonel Butler - 
He lastly relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity [illegible] present & he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any state
Sworn to and subscribed [illegible]
Eli Hull
L. Adams Clerk
[illegible....] declare their opinion that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states - 
I [illegilbe] Adams Clerk of the court of Common [illegible] in & for the county of Monroe aforesaid to [illegible] certify that the [illegible] continues the original proceedings of the said event in the matter of the application of Eli Hull for a pension - 
In testimony [illegible], I [illegible] set may hand and seal of office this sixteenth day of October eighteen hundred and thirty four
 L. Adams Clerk
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David Hull only child [illegible]
No 2180 Eil Hull [illegible] by David Hull for [illegible] July 1828 [illegible] NY Atty
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State of Michigan
County of Kalamazoo
On this 19th day of November 1850 personally appeared before me the
undersigned County Judge of Kalamazoo
County State of Michigan David Hull
a resident of the town of Flowerfield in the
County of H. Joseph aforesaid aged Fifty
years who being first duly sworn according to
law doth on his oath declare that he
is the only surviving child of Eli Hull
late of the township of Haldimand New Castle
District Canada West deceased and in
order to obtain the benefit of the act of
-
Congress entitled "An act for the relief of certain
surviving officers and soldiers of the army of
the Revolution"" approved on the 15th day of May
he further declares
1828; that his father the said Eli Hull was a
resident of the town of Derby New Haven
County for in the time of the Revolution &
enlisted for during the war in the month of
March 1780 in Col Ming's Regt which on being
reduced he was transferred to the 4th Compy
Col. Heman Swift High Connecticut Continenal
at line of the army and was honorably
discharged therefrom by Col Swift at the
Highland in the State of New York at or soon
after the conclusion of Peace 1st of June 1783
This declarant further says that the foregoing
description of his father's service he is informed
is the same that he made in 1837 which
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statement this declarant gives upon information
and believes it to be true as he has often times
heard his father the said Eli Hul declare
that he was a during war's man in the
Revolutionary War. He further declares that
his father the said Eli Hull was never pensioned under any act according to his best knowledge
and belief. He further declares that his father
the said Eli Hull died at the house of James
Purdy in the township of Haldiman New Castle
District Canada West in the month of February
One thousand eight hundred and forty: that he
did not then reside with his father and
has forgotten the day of the month but is
certain as to the month and year &
as further evidence on this point refers to
the affidavits of the said James Purdy &
Nancy Robert. this declarant further says
that his mother died a long time previous
to the death of his father and that he was
unmarried at the time of his death & consequently left no widow. This declaration is
made for the purpose of obtaining the
Pension to which his father was entitled
at the time of his death and he claims
that his father was entitled to a full
pension under the Law aforesaid
to the first day of February 1840. and
that as the only surviving child and
the sole heir of the said
Eli Hull
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said Pension is payable to him
and
he prays the Commissioner of Pension to
examine said claim in connection with
the original declaration of his father the
said Eli Hull made under the Law for
said [illegible] January 1837 and subsequent
declaration under act of June 7, 1832 both on
file in the office of Comr of Pensions. This dec-
larant is informed that in reply to the first dec-
laration of his father he was informed through his
attorney by Letter from the Pension office dated
28 Nov 1839 June 4th 1838 among other objections
that there was a man of that name in the
Connecticut Line but it does not appear
that he enlisted for the war" This dec-
larant is further informed that his father
dispairing of obtaining a pension under said
Law & being in great need then applied
under the Law of 1832 which application
was objected to under date of 28th Novender
1839 in the following words" In reply to your
letter of the 20th inst respecting the pain of Eli Hull
under act of June 7, 1832 I have to state that his
papers under that act have been examined
and filed. If the claim under that act
is well founded his application under act
---
15 May 1828 may be sustained. This declar-
ant prays the Commissioner of Pensions to
refer to the affidavit of Edward Goodyear 
which accompanied & formed a part of
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his fathers application under the act of 15 May
1828. M Goodyear stated under oath that he
and the said Eli Hull belonged to the same
Regt & were both discharged on the same day
thus establishing his identy. This declarant
states these facts from information which
he believes to be true. This declarant
prays that his claim may be speedily
decided and his certificate of Pension
issued to Adriel Ely Esq of Watertown
Jefferson County New York
Sworn to & subscribed David Hull
before me on the day
and year first above
written & I certify that
I am acquainted with
the above named declarant
& that he is a man of truth
& respectability & that I verily
believe the facts set forth
by him are substantially true
Hezekiah G Wells County Judge
Kalamazoo County Michigan
Front of
in
CLERK.
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the above named declarant
& that he is a man of truth
& respectability & that on
State of Michigan,
Telegraph Print, Kalamazoo, Michigan,
COUNTY OF KALAMAZOO, I, Amos Allen
Clerk of said County,
do hereby certify that Hezekiah G Wells--
whose
name is subscribed to the Certificate or proof of acknowledgment of the annexed Instrument, and therein written was,
at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment, 
County Judge for said county, duly elected
and qualified, and duly authorized to take the same; And further, that I am well acquainted 
with the hand writing of such County Judge and verily believe that the
signature to the said Certificate or proof acknowledgment is genuine :
I further Certify, that said Instrument is executed and acknowledged according to
the Laws of this State.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed
the seal of said County, at Kalamazoo, this Twenty first
day of November
A. D. 1850.
18
Amos D Allen
CLERK.
F
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State Michigan
County Kalamazoo
I Hezekiah C. Wells County
Judge of Kalamazoo County aforesaid
do hereby certify that satisfactory evidence
has been exhibited to me by the affida
vits of James Ash
the
credible witnesses whose
affidavits on hereto annexed that
Eli Hull late of the township of Haldi
man in the Province of Canada
died without leaving a widow
time in the February 1840 &
that David Hall a resident of
the town of Flowfield in the State of
Michigan is his son and his
only surviving child, and from said
affidavit, and the declaration of
the said David Hall this day
made before me I am satisfied
that the said Eli Hull was a soldier
of the Revolution and died in said
town of Haldiman some time
in the north of February One thousand
Eight hundred & forty
In testimony whereof I have here
unto set my hand this 19th day
of November 1850
Hezekiah Wells County Judge
Kalamazoo County Michigan
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State of Michigan
County of Kalamasoo
James Ash a resident
of the town of Floverfield in the
County of Joseph State Mich
on being sworn depose and say
that I am seventy two years old
that I was well acquainted with
the late Eli Hull of Haldiman
Canada, that I have known him
intimately for a great many years
that I have frequently heard him
say that he was a revolutionary
soldier; that the wife of the said Eli
tell died a number of years
before the death of the said Eli Hull
that he was well acquainted with
all the family and that
David Hull of Flowerfield
aforesaid is the son of the said
Eli Hull of Haldiman and his
only child: that he heard of
the death of the said Eli Hull
about the time of his alleged
decease and verily believe it
to have been in February 1840
Sworn to & subscribed
this 19th day of November James Ash
1850 before me &
certify that the said
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to
James Ash is as
of respectability & truth
Hezekiah Swells County Judge
Plumason County Michigan
Michigan
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to
I
Ash
that
sworn depon and say
I am the wife of James
Ash who has made the foregoing
affidavit that I was acquainted with
the said Eli Hull & the said
David Hull mentioned in the
affidavit of my said husband
that I have heard the said
affidavit read and know
all the facts set forth them to
be true
Sworn & Subscribed
this
day of November
1850 before me & I 
certify that Mrs. Ash
is credible person
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SS.
Telegraph Print, Kalamazoo, Michigan.
State of Michigan,
COUNTY OF KALAMAZOO,)
I, Amos D. Allen, Clerk of said County,
do hereby certify that Herkiah Gelle whose
name is subscribed to the Certificate of or proof of acknowledgement of the annexed Instrument, and therein written was, 
at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment, a County Judge
duly Elected
for said county,
and qualified, and duly authorized to take same: And further, that I am well acquainted with
the hand writing of such County Judge and verily believe that the signature to the said Certificate or proof of acknowledgement is genuine.

I further Certify, that said Instrument is executed and acknowledged according to
the Laws of this State.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have tent, and affixed
the seal of said County, at Kalamazoo, this Twenty first
day of November AD 1850.
Amos D. Allen Clerk
Fers up
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State of New York
Jefferson County is
James Purdy of the Town of
Haldemand New Castle District Panas
West being sworn before and say that I
was well acquainted with Eli Hull who
is now dead that the said Hull claimed
to have come from Connecticut [illegible] for the
last thirty or forty years of his life resided
in Canada except that part of the time
he was in the State of New York trying
to get a pension. This deponent further
says that in the year 1837 the said Hull
started with George B. Simpson from this
deponents house to go to Watertown to get his
pension at that time he had no wife and
only one child whose name was David Hull
who now lives in the State of Michigan
and is the only son and heir of his father
Eli Hull. After remaining some time he
returned to Canada and having no family
he lived with this deponent and after being
taken sick this deponent took care of him until
his death which took place in the Township
of Haldimand New Castle District Canada West
in the month of February 1840. This deponent
further says that he has heard the said Eli
Hull often times speak of his services in the
revolutionary war he declared that he was a
dunning wars man and served throughout the
whole war and that said Hull had his house
burnt and said his discharge was burnt with
it. This Deponent further says that he had been
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acquainted with the said Hull a long time
before his death that the said Eli Hull
was esteemed a very honest upright man &
so this deponent considered him
Subscribed and sworn
before me this 30th day
James
of October 1849 I further
certify the above and
deponent is a credible person

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John Baker Justice of the Peace
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State of New York
Jefferson County
Nancy Roberts of the township
of Haldimand. New Castle District, Canada West
being duly sworn depose and say that I was
acquainted with Eli Hull who is now dead
that the said Hull claimed a pension from
the United States government for services in
the revolutionary war but for a large number
 of years has resided in Canada except that
part of the time he was in the State of New York
trying to get a pension and after
returning to Canada lived a considerable part of
the time and untill his death with James
Purdy who lived in the Town and District
above mentioned said Hull died in the month
of February, 1840. Said deponent further says
that she well recollects the time of the death
by the birth of a child of her whose birth
is registered in the family bible and by
these circumstances she is confident that the
above statement is correct. This deponent
further says that she is thirty two years of
of age and has been acquainted with said Hull
ever since she was old enough to know one
from another
Nancy Robert
Subscribed and sworn
before me this 30th of
October 1849 and I certify
the above named deponent
is a [illegible] person
John Baker Justice of the Peace
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STATE OF NEW YORK
Jefferson County Clerks Office.
W. E. Massey Deputy
I, ISAAC MUNSON (W E Madding Deputy) Clerk of the County of
Jefferson, do hereby certify that John Baker
Esquire before whom the annexed affidavit
was taken was at the time of taking such affidavit a Justice
 of the Peace in and for said County, duly authorised to
take the same; and further, that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of such Justice, and
verily believe that his signatures thereto is genuine.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto suscribed my name and affixed the Seal
of said County, this 4
day
of December 1850
W. E. Massey Dep. Clerk.
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Eli Hall
Application for
Pension under act
9 May 1828
enlisted in [illegible] things
Right & discharged in
Col. Swift Regt
Admit Ely
Agent
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State of New York
Jefferson County ss Before me M.W. Gilbert
a Justice of the peace in and for the County
aforesaid
personally appeared Edward Goodyear
who being duly sworn according to law doth on his oath say that he is twenty seven years
old. that he enlisted at the age of 16 in Capt
Warner's Company Colonel Heman Swifts Regt
Genl Hunters Brigade Connecticut Line for and
during the war - That he faithfully served my
time and was discharged in the Highlands after
the War ceased- That during the last year of my
service I became acquainted with Eli Hull
now of Watertown and who has resided principally
in Canada for the last 30 or 40 years. that he
was then a private in the same Regt with my
self but not of the same on pay - That I knew
him I think a year or about in the service, this
as I understood and believe he had before joining our Regiment belonged to Col. [illegible] Regt
I know the said Hull intimately - he was from
Darby Connecticut and I was from New Haven
We were both discharged at the same time &
place by Colonel Swift - I have known the
said Eli Hall who is now applying for a
pension ever since having lived for the last
30 years within fifteen miles of him further
saith not
Sworn to and subscribed
Edward Goodyear
this 30th day of January 1837
before me
Marinus W Gilbert Justice Peace
I
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In the matter
of
 Eli Hull
John [illegible]
Applications for Pensions
Affied Certificate
H. Gay
atty.
Rochester
N.Y.
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State of New York
Monroe County ⎬ ss Edward Goodyear resident of the village of Brighton in the district of
Newcastle upper Canada being duly sworn
depose and says that he this deponent was a
soldier in the war of the revolution
of the rank of Sergeant at the time of
his discharge and that he is now a pensioner
of the United States in consequence of
such service. That this deponent during
his said service was well acquainted with
John Churchill and Eli Hull, and
is still well acquainted with them
&
that they are the same individuals who
have made application to the war
department for a pension. That this
deponent belonged to the regiment com
manded by Colonel Swift continental
Line. That towards the last of the war
this deponent recollects distinctly that some
regiments were either reduced or disbanded
and that at that period deponent was
at that period lying with his regiment
near west point N. York. That on that
occasion the said John Churchill and
Eli Hull who to the best of this
deponents recollection had theretofore
belonged to Colonel Webbs & Colonel
for Colonel Rutters
Meigs regiment were drafted or taken to
Colonel Swifts regiment. That the said
John Churchill & Eli Hull continued as
privates in the regiment of deponent
commanded by Colonel Swift from
the time they so joined it till the time
that Colonel Swifts regiment was discharged
which was at the close of the war - that the
time they joined till the time
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they were discharged with the rest of Colonel
Swifts regiment was over one year to the
best of deponents recollection, and at
least not less than nine months. That
this deponent now resides in the same
neighborhood with the said John
Churchill and Eli Hull and has so
resided for the last twenty years that the
said Churchill & Hull are
of good & respectable character &
reputation for truth & veracity
subscribed
& sworn to ⎬
this 7th April 1835
before me Joseph Sibley
Edward Goodyear
Judge of the County Court
of Monroe County
State of New York
Monroe County ss
-
-
I certify that at the
time of the taking of the above affidavit
had satisfact before me on oath
that the said Edward Goodyear was a
person of good reputation for
truth & veracity. Dated 7th April 1835
Joseph Sibley
Judge of the County County
of said County
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State of New York
Monroe County ⎬
I certify that Joseph Sibley
Esquire is a Judge of the county
courts in & for said County, and that
I am well acquainted with his hand
writing and verily believe that the 
signature to the above certificate and
affidavit is genuine. Witness my hand and seal
of office this seventh day of April 1835
Samuel G. Andrews Clerk
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Sir
Watertown NYork July 1. 1839
On the 31 day of January 1837 Eli Hull made
his declaration for a pension in conformity with the act
of 15th May 1828 & I supposed had clearly established his claim
by the affidavit of a respectable witness Edward Goodyear
Your answer dated June 4. 1838 divis the
application admitting that the name of Eli Hull is
on the control but that it does not appear that
he served during the war. Before me this and
Mr Hull had moved back to Canada & it was not
until the first of June last that he has been able
to get over, his health being very bad. He told
me that about 40 years ago he sold his County
Land to a man by the name of Butler - I wrote
the commission of the Law Office & have and for
answer that Warrant No. 5935 was issued for
of Eli Hull for 100 acres of Land on the 2d day
9 April 1798 with this fact I should file
warrant in still further proving the claim and
the papers now in your office-
To obviate all
objections I have made his declaration and
the act 7 Jun 7, 1832, which accompany this
I trust will be undeniably attended to
Very Respectfully
1
Adriel Ely
L. Edwards Esq
Court of Pensions
[illegible]
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In the matter of
the application of Eli Hall
& John Churchill for a
pension
Sir,
the application of the above named
applicants are on file in your office. they
were suspended on the ground of the want
of a witness to their service. The only
witness they can produce is the one whose
affidavit is enclosed. To produce
the testimony of a superior officer
is altogether out of their power
if the inclosed affidavit is not
sufficient. I do not see that they can furnish
any further proof. The witness you
will observe was a Sergeant & probably
that may be sufficient, and may comply
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with the requisition of the war department
their case is for more [illegible] than
hundred that have been allowed &
where less proof has been addresssed
I have the honor to be
Sir
your very able Servant
H. Gay
Rochester April 1835
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Watertown Feb 1 1837

Sir,

As the agent of Eli Hull I send you herewith his application for a pension Under the Act of May 1838

Respectfully yours
Adriel Ely

J.L. Edwards
Comm of Pensions 
Washington
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Watertown 20 Nov. 1839

Sir

Will you be so good as to inform me whether you have read the application
of Eli Hall for a pension under the act of June 7, 1832. His papers were
forwarded to your office under date of July 1. 1839
yr obt servt
Adriel Ely


J.L. Edwards Esq
Commr of Pensions
Washington
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Watertown Jefferson County
Sept 25 1837
Sir, 
Allow me to inquire whose disposition has been made of the claim of Eli Hull to a pension under the act of 15th May 1828 whose papers were transmitted to you by letter the 1 February 1837 & from which I have never recd and any report
your obt svt
Adriel Ely

J L Edwards Esq
Com of Pensions
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Hon
J. L. Edwards
Pension Department
Washington City, D.C.

Schoolcraft. Kalamazoo County, Michigan
September 8th 1849

Dr. Sir,
Will your department please advise me at as early a day as will suit your convenience
, whether the name of Eli Hull, who enlisted
as a Private Soldier, during the Revolutionary War, has ever been placed on the Pension list; his enlistment took place in New Haven County Connecticut. his application
for pension, was once made, from Onondaga County N York, and again from Watertown Jefferson County N. York. Please advise whether a pension has ever been paid to said Hull [illegible] sentatives (representatives?); if so, please states who acted as his or their Attorney in fact, & to whom was the money paid.

Respectfully your
Obt Servt
Hezekiah G Wells.
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Rochester N.H. Dec 18, 1832
to the Comm of Pension

Sir
Eli Hull a Revolutionary
soldier applied 7 or 8 years ago for a pension
the application was made thro a Ely Esq
of Watertown N.Y. then I believe paymaster
of Pensioners. It is not known that a
pension has been granted in the case.
Eli Hull - now dead. It is reported that
a person claiming to be his son has
very recently obtained the pension money
as his only surviving child. The last
person is said to live in Michigan or Mrs.
Eli Hull however asserted shortly before
his death that he had no children.
I am requested by other parties interested to ascertain from you whether any such person has been granted either to Eli or David Hull.
Eli Hull at time of application lived in 
Canada, at [illegible]

An early answer will greatly oblige
Yours &c
F L Durand
atty &c.
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Watertown Jeff. Co. N.Y
May 22. 1838

Sir
On the 1 Feby. 1837 - I sent to you the
declaration of Eli Hull for a pension and
wrote to you under that date as follows:
Sir, 
At the request of Eli Hull I enclose to you his declaration for a Pension under the
act approved 15th May 1828, and
on the 25th Sept 1837. I wrote to you on
the subject asking if you had received
the declaration & for a decision on the
application. I have never recd any notice
on the subject from you.
I want to thank you to let me know what disposition you have made of his papers

Jr &c
Adriel Esq

JL Edwards Esq
Court of Pensions
Washington
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Washington DC.
March 5th, 1850

Sir,
I have the honor to enclose herewith an abstract of certain papers now before your department in the case of Eli Hull deceased late of New York who was a "warsman" in the Revolution and applied for a pension under the Act of 15th May, 1828, subsequently under the Act of 7th June, 1832. The claim is again renewed under the former Act and I cannot doubt from a careful examination of this case that you will at once relax your rigid rules and conclusions and (illegible) to the heirs of this old "warsman" a pension, the claim being a just one.

By reference to a list of the Warsmen from Connecticut in Mr. Gordon's room, you will find his name and him alone in the category of those who did enlist "for and during the war" and also that he received as such one hundred acres of land.

As regarding the implied conclusion that his delaying to apply for the benefit of that law to (illegible) a period was evidence of his not being "entitled, I trust that in this you will in all charity, after
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referring to the fact that but few were
entitled to the benefit of that act and those
few ignorant of their rights, literate or
illiterate, that you will, I again repeat,
not consider this omission as fatal to
the rights of the heirs of the old 
soldier in question.
The case is submitted for your candid and just decision

I am Sir,
Most Respectfully,
Your Obt Sevt
Th Lumpkin


Col. J. L Edwards,
Commr. of Pensions
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A.
Eli Hull dcd
Pri NY for the war 
Act 15 May 1828 -

from 3d Mch 1820 to 1st Feby. 1840, when he died

Payable to David Hull, his only surviving child

$80 per ann.

Cert sent to Thurman Lumpkin [illegible]
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Washington D.C.
Dec. 9th '50

Sir,
I have the honor to enclose herewith additional evidence in the case of Eli Hull, decd of New-York under the act of 7th June, 1832, also a declaration of David Hull, son of the said Eli Hull claiming a pension under the act of 15th
May, 1828. Eli Hull was a war's man as will be fully proven by the evidence adduced.

I have the honor to be
Very respectfully
Your Obt. Sert.
Th. Lumpkin

Hon. J.E. Heath
Commr of Pensions
1
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5363
P.O. Eli Hull
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: ______
Attorney _____
P.O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ con

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Consolidated with D.W. Inv.s file 18.041
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N. York 34421
Eli Hall
Let to Adriel Ely 28 Nov 1939

5363
Act 7 June 1832
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Eli Hull
N. York
Act May 15, 1828
Suspd.
See letter to A. Ely June
183
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3 -- 871.
RECORD DIVISION.
Department of the Interior,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.

Briefed by Marion B Hudson.
File
Claim No.
18041
Certificate No.
Claimant
Soldier Eli Hull
Service Conn line
Additional Service
No.
claim, State records
190
No claim, combination records , 190

REMARKS:
No O. W I. or V. W MD or rejected
other the above
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32275
New York

Eli Hull
Suspended

Lett to H Gay
5th December 84

New York
7 June 1832

Let to H Gay 18 April 1835
Let Hezekiah G. Wells 7th Novr. 1849
     T. Lumpkin 29 Oct 1850
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P 18041
INVALID.

File No. 18041
Eli Hull Conn. line Private Rev War

Act: May 15" 28
on N.Y. roll
Index: -- Vol. 1 Page 436
{Arrangement of 1870.}

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Apr. 21. 1897, the
to Hon. Wallace T.
Jr. House of Represents
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State of New York
Jefferson County ss

For the purpose of obtaining the benefits of "An Act for the relief of certain surviving
officers and Soldiers of the army of the
Revolution"" approved on the 15th of May 1828. I Eli Hull of Watertown in the County of Jefferson and State of New York do hereby declare, that I enlisted in the Continental line of the Army of the revolution, for and during the war and continued in its service until its termination, at which period I was a private in
the 4th Company of Colonel Heman Swifts Regiment. The history of my service as near as I now can recollect is as follows. I am unable to state all the particulars having been injured by a fall from a horse but they are substantially as follows-- I was born in Derby Connecticut Feby. 18. 1766 and enlisted in the month
of March 1780 into the 4th Company of Colonel Meig's Regt I don't remember the Captains name I joined the Army at Morristown, or Morristown Hats as it was called, I was at the capture of Cornwallis
but was chiefly employed on the Hudson River- I was discharged at the highlands opposite West Point the 1 June 1783 or 1784 I do not recollect which but it was after the close of the war- my discharge was afterward burnt in a house that was destroyed by fire. Col. Meigs Regt was reduced I was placed in the 4th Company of Colonel Swifts Regt Genl Hunters Brigade Connecticut line, and I was discharged in that Regt - My Colonels were Col Meigs and after him Colonel Butler and my Lieut Colonel Gray - & then Colonel Heman Swift - And I also declare that I afterwards received a certificate for the reward of Eighty Dollars and
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to which I was entitled under a resolve of Congress passed the 15th of May 1778 and I further declare that I was not on the 15th day of March 1828 on the pension List of the United States. I also declare that I am not on the Pension Roll of the United States

Subscribed and sworn to
this 31st day of January 1837
before me
Marinis W Gilbert Justice Peace

Eli Hull

Before me Marinus W. Gilbert a Justice of the
peace in and for the County of Jefferson in the
State of New York personally appeared this day  Edward Goodyear who did make oath that Eli Hull
by whom the foregoing declaration was subscribed
is generally reputed and believed to have been
a private in the army of the Revolution
in manner as is therein stated - Witness my
hand this 31st day of January 1837

Subscribed & Sworn to
this 31h day of January 1837
before me
Marinus W Gilbert Justice Peace

Edward Goodyear

State of New York
Jefferson County Clerks office 

I Peley Burckard Clerk of said County do certify that Marinus W Gilbert Esq. before whom the foregoing affidavit was sworn was at the date of the same a Justice of the Peace in and for said County and I am acquainted with his handwriting and verily believe his signature to be genuine.
Witness my hand and seal of Office February 1. 1837
P. Burckard Clerk
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State of New York
Jefferson County ss

For the purpose of obtaining the benefits
of and for the relief of certain surviving officers &
Soldiers of the army of the Revolution approved on
the 15th of May 1828 I Eli Hull of Watertown
in the County of Jefferson & State of New York do
hereby declare that I enlisted in the Continental
line of the Army of the revolution for and during the
war and continued in its service until its
termination at which period I was a private in
the 4th Company of Colonel Heman Swifts Regiment,
The particulars of my service as near as I can
recollect are as follows-- I am unable to state all
the particulars having been injured by a fall from
a Horse but they are substantially as follows,
I was born in Derby Connecticut Feby 18, 1760 and
enlisted in the month of March 1780 into the
4th Company of Col Meigs Regt I do not remember
the Captains name, I joined the army at Morristown
or Morristown Huts as it was then called I was at
the capture of Conwallis but was chiefly employed
on the Hudson River, I was discharged at the
Highlands opposite West point the 1 June 1783 or 1784 I do not recollect which but it was after the close
of the War my discharge was afterward burned in a
house that was destroyed by fire. Colonel Meigs
Regt was reduced & I was placed in the 4th Compy
Col Swifts Regt. Gen Huntingtons Brigade
Cont. Line & I was discharged in that Regt
My Colonels were Col Meigs & after him Col
Butler & my Lt Colonel Gray & then Col Heman
Swift & I also declare that I afterward received
a certificate for the reward of $80. to which I was
entitled under a resolution of Congress passed the
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15th day of May 1778 & I further declare that I
was not on the 15th day of May 1828 on the pension
list of the United States & I also declare that I am
not on the Pension Roll of the United States

Subscribed & sworn
this 31 day of July 1837
before me M.W. Gilbert JP

Eli Hull

Before me M.W. Gilbert a Justice of
the Peace in and for the County of Jefferson State of
New York personally appeared Edward Goodyear
who made oath that Eli Hull by whom the
foregoing declaration was subscribed is
generally reported and believed to have been a
private in the army of the Revolution in manner
as therein stated - Witness my hand this 31 day
of Jany 1857

subscribed & sworn before
me this 31 Jany 1837
Edward Goodyear
M.W. Gilbert J.P.

Edward Goodyear

State of New York
Jefferson County Ss Before me M.W. Gilbert a Justice
of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid personally
appeared Edward Goodyear, who being duly sworn as
according to law doth on his oath say that he
is 77 years old. That he enlisted at the age
of 16 in Capt Warrins Compy Col Heman
Swifts Regt Genl Huntingtons Brigade Conl
Line for & during the war that he faithfully served
his time & was discharged at the Highlands after
the war ended. That during the last year of his
service he became acquainted with Eli Hull now
of Watertown but who has resided in Canada
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principally for the last 30 or 40 years - that
he was then a private in the same Regt
with himself but not in the same Company
that he knew him he thinks about a year
in the service- That as I understand & believe
he had before joining our Regt belonged to
Col Meigs Regt. I knew the said Hull Intimately
- he was from Derby Connecticut &
I was from New Haven we were both discharged
at the same time & place by Col Swift. I
have known him the said Hull who is
now applying for a pension ever since having
lived for the last 30 years within 15 miles of
him
Sworn & Subscribed
this 31 Jany 1837 before
me M.W. Gilbert

Edward Goodyear

The papers of which the foregoing
is a copy were sent to the Pension Office
with the following reply

Pens off, June 4, 1838.


Sir The declaration of Eli Hull has been examined
& filed. He claims a pension under act of May 15, 1828
& alleges that he served under Colonels Butler, Swift
Miegs & Gray & that he has forgotten the names of the Capts under whom he served & that he was discharged of June 1783 or 1784. There was a man of
that name in the Connecticut line, but it does not
appear that he enlisted for the war-- The probability
is that he did not enlist for that period, unless
that it can be proved by record evidence that he
enlisted for and served during the war and
that he is the identical person who performed the
service alleged no further investigation can be had
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This a very doubtful case rendered as not only by the absence of the necessary evidence as to his service, but by his failing to apply for so many years as have elapsed between the time, the passage of the law under which he claims & the period of his application

After the receipt of this Letter & thinking it might
be a difficult thing to prove that he was a
wars man. I made out his declaration under the act of June 1832 - this met with the following reception

War Dept 28 Nov 1839

The claim, Eli Hull under act of June 7, 1832
have been examined & filed. If the claim
under that act is well founded his application under act 18 May 1828 may be sustained - It is indispensably necessary in order to further investigation that the
names of the Capts in the Regts in which he alleges to have served should be given & that the claimant be identified by a competent witness "

I ascertained from the Land office as follows: 
Bouy Land Off of June 27. 1839
Sir In answer to yours of the 18th inst
I have to inform you that Warrant No
5935 was made in favor of Eli Hull
for 100 and on the 2d day of April 1798
which does not appear to register or located

Th. Lumpkin Esq
for A. Ely
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State of New York
Jefferson County ss On this first day of June
1839 personally appeared before the Hon Calvin McKnight first Judge of Jefferson County
County Eli Hull a resident of Cramahe Upper Canada aged Seventy nine years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7. 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year 1780 in the month of March in the 4th Company Col. Meigs Regt name of Capt forgotten, & was discharged at the highlands June 1783 - that his enlistment was for during the war; that he faithfully served to its close & was honorably discharged, but has lost his discharge that he refers to the affidavit of Edward Goodyear for proof of his discharge. That he was born in Derby Connecticut and resided there during and after the Revolutionary
was and for more than thirty years past has resided
in Canada, with the exception of a short time in
Watertown N.Y. in 1837 to which place I went for the
purpose of getting my pension: that having no family, that became his residence; that he refers to his declaration made under the act of May 15, 1828 and date 31 January 1837 & the evidence thereto annexed as a part of this declaration that he knew nothing of any law in regard to pensions until a short time before his application in 1837 - having lived in the back part of Canada is the reason for not applying sooner

Eli Hall


I hereby certify that Eli Hull who here this day made
solemn oath to the foregoing declaration is unable to attend Court in consequence of bodily infirmity and also that it is my opinion that the said Eli Hull was a Revolutionary Soldier & served in the army of the United States as above stated

Calvin McKnight first
Judge of Jeff County Court
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State of New York

Jefferson County Clerk's Office I Peleg Burchard Clerk of said County do certify that Calvin McKnight before whom the annexed affidavit was sworn at the date of the same first Judge of Jefferson County County and that I am well acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his signature to the same is genuine. Witness my hand and seal of
Office July 1. 1839
Burchard Clerk