Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 7852, for William Pack, Maryland
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(3-1776)

SERVICE
Md.

Pack, William
Phebe

NUMBER
R. 7852

CONTENTS
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Ohio 7 9 15
William Pack
of Cincinnati in the State of Ohio who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Briscoe of the Regiment commanded by Col [Colonel] Griffith in the Maryland line for Eight months from 1776.
$26.66/100

Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio at the rate of $26 dollars 66 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831

Certificate of Pension issued the 18 day of April 1833 and sent to [illegible] [illegible] Clerk of Court Cincinnati Ohio.

Arrears to the 4rth of March 1833 53.32
Semi-anl. [Semi-annual] allowance ending 4 Sep "33 [1833] 13.33
$66.65

Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by Wm [illegible] Palmer Clerk,
Book E Vol. 8 Page 20
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7 915
William Pack
Ohio
Admitted for 8 months
from 1776

7324

Danl Yano
Clk [clerk] of Court,
Cincinnati
Ohio
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BRIEF in the case of William Pack C of Hamilton
in the State of Ohio
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Open Court
2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?
3. How old is he? 74
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
Period. | Duration of Service. | Rank. | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. |
In 1776 volunteer | 6 months | As a Private | Cap Speaker Col Chal Griffith Mountjoy [underlined] Baily [underlined] Adju 
1777 D """ | 2 months | " [private] | Col Murdock Cap Briscoe
5. In what battles was he engaged? a Skirmish near Phia [a superscript, as abbreviation for Philadelphia] - Battle White Plains an affairs with the British near Proby
6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Frederick Co, Md
7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? traditionary
8.Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?

I certify that the foregoing statement and the
answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
George Taylor, Examining Clerk
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State of Ohio
Hamilton County
On this 17th day of September AD. 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Honourable George P Torrence [illegible] Enos Woodruff and Thos Henderson [illegible] Judges of the Court common pleas in + for the county of Hamilton now sitting [illegible] aged nearly seventy four years who being first duly sworn according to law on his oath makes the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7th AD 1832.
That he was born on the 16th of October AD 1758 in the County of Fredirich in the State of Maryland that he entered as a volunteer in a militia regiment called the flying camp in the year 1776 which was raised in the county and state aforesaid in the capacity of a private. The company in which he served was commanded by Captain [illegible] Greenbury Gather was first Lieutenant Richard Anderson second Lieutenant Nicholas Sybritt ensign Charles Griffith was colonel of said regiment dont [illegible] the Lieutenant colonel [illegible] was Major Mountjoy Baily was adjutant. He volunteered to serve for six months. went with said regiment to the city of Philadelphia in said year then to Trenton in New Jersey then to the City of New York [illegible] about two months at ten mile [illegible] above the City of New York where General Washington had his head quarters. The regiment to which he belonged had [illegible] a skirmish with the enemy [with the enemy struck through] [illegible] our stay at Ten mile [illegible] were then marched by Kings bride to East Chester when some of the enemies forces lay [illegible] retreated [illegible] + proceeded to white plains in the [illegible] of New York when the battle so called took place in [illegible] the petitioner was engaged. [illegible] obliged to retreat and took up our position [illegible] some entrenchments [illegible] proceeded to fort Lee he thinks in the state of New Jersey; we lay there some time were obliged to retreat after having lost all our baggage. our regiment returned home the term for which it was organized having expired in the year 1777. he volunteered again + entered a regiment off Militia raised in said county + state + commanded by Colonel Murdock don't remember the Lieutenant [added colonel] name are Francis Deacons was Major adjutant was name [illegible] the captain who commanded the company to which petitioner belonged was named Jared Briscow Greenbury Gather was first Lieutenant John Bruce second Lieutenant Thins Nicholas Sybritt was ensign. The regiment proceeded to the city of Baltimore when it [illegible] its arms + then made forced marches to [illegible] or the white-horse to reinforce General Anthony Wagner. Was
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we were attacked by the enemies cavalry during our March and disposed before we reached General Waynes position was
prevented from reinforcing the forces under General Wayne who  were taken by the enemy at Paoli -  We were marched to Germantown where we were engaged in said battle. From which place we marched to a creek
called Parkman where we remained until our time expired which was two months  The country through which the (illegible) marched with his regiment was Maryland Pennsylvania, New Jersey, & the State of New York dont remember of this time in part or any of the continental regiments or companies which were engaged in service at the same time with the petitioner the petitioner don't recollect the names of any other after than what he has no documentary evidence of his service had such evidence a year but it was consumed with his house which was burnt in the year 1784 not know at this time my person who can testify to his service. He hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity  except the present  & declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State 
William Pack
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid in open court
Danl Gano Clerk

Mr Ichabod Palmerton residing 
in the township of Delhi county and state aforesaid Thomas Holland residing
the same township do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with William Peck who has subscribed & sworn the above declaration and that we believe him to be nearly seventy four years of age that he is reputed & believed
the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier the revolution & that we concur in that opinion
Ichabod Palmerton
Thomas Holland 
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
in open Court-
Danl Gano CLK
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Just
Interrogatories propounded by the Court to the petitioner
Quest 1 where & in what year were you born
Ans I was born in Frederick County as then existing in the State of Maryland on the 16th October AD 1758
Quest have you any record of your age if so where is it 
Ans I have on which is a transcript of a record made by my father and the above statement is  taken from it
Quest where were you living when called into service where have you lived since the Revolutionary war and where do you now live
Ans I lived in Frederick County Maryland when called into service where I resided after the war until I removed
into the State of Ohio where I now reside in Delhi Township Hamilton County
Quest How were you called into service were you drafted did you volunteer or were you a substitute if so for whom
Ans the first time I entered the service
I volunteered the second time I was drafted I never was a substitute 5 State
Quest state the names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops when you served such continental & militia regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your service
Ans I have in my declaration stated the names of all the officers that I now recollect dont remember any continental or militia in particular at this period they have all exceed my memory
The general circumstances of my service I have set forth in my sworn declarator to which I again refer
Ques Did you receive a discharge from the service and if so what has become of it.
Ans I did receive a discharge for my six months service which was destroyed with my other papers when my here was burnt in the year 1784
Quest State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighbourhood & who can testify as to your character for veracity & their belief of your services as a
soldier of the Revolution
Ans I am acquainted with Squire Ichabod Palmerton Thomas Holland Squire Wm Cary
Joseph Williamson & sundry other -
William Pack
Sworn to and subscribed in open court 
Sept 17 1732
Danl Paine Clk
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And the said County do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation
of the matter and after putting the interogatories prescribed by the
War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the Court further And the said County of Clare their opinion, after the investigation and the Court further
certifies that it appears to them that Ichabod Palmerton and Thomas Holland who have signed the preceding certificate are
resident of the County of Hamilton and are credible persons and their statement is entitled to credit
State of Ohio
Hamilton County

I Samuel Gano Clerk pro tem
of the Court of Common Pleas
in for said County, do hereby certify
that the foregoing contains the original poceedings  of the said Court in the matter of the application of Wm Pack for a
pension
State of his
Hamilton County
73241
I Samuel Gano Clerk pro tem
the Court of Common Pleas 
in for said County, do hereby certify
that the foregoing contains the original
proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Wm Parr for a pension

In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office at Cincinnati
this 17th day of Sept. 1832
Dan'l Gano  Clerk
C. H. C. Ohio
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The City of Cincinnati,
Hamilton County & State of Ohio; } SS
On this 5th day of August in the year 1839, personally appeared before me Ebenezer Harvison, a Justice of the Peace in and for said city and County Phebe Pack, a resident in said City of Cincinnati and County of Hamilton, aged seventy nine years on the 16th day of June past (being born on the 16th of June 1760) who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress, passed July 7th 1838, entitled "An Act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows:"  That she is the widow of William Pack, late of Delhi township in said County of Hamilton, decd., who was a soldier (a private) in the war of the Revolution; - that she has often heard her husband relate in his life time, the history of his service in said war, the names of his officers [illegible] , but cannot now recollect those details further than his having first gone into the United States Army as a volunteer in what was then termed the "Flying Camp" for a term of three months, next as a drafted militia man, but for the length of the term, she cannot now recollect; - and here she refers to her husband's papers on file in the War Department, which enabled him [underlined] to obtain a pension under the Act of 7th June 1832, as per certificate and duplicate marked A.V.B. and herewith included -
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She the said Phebe Pack further declares, that
she was married to the said William Pack on the 11th day of April 1782, after her said husband's second and last time of service had expired; that the place of said marriage, was in Montgomery County in the State of Maryland, where she presumes, that proof of her marriage, may, most probably be found; that her husband, the aforesaid Wm Pack died on the twenty third day of September
eighteen hundred and thirty eight, in his
eightieth year; that while her said husband lived, and after his name had been placed on the pension roll, she knows of his regularly receiving his pension at or about the periods of payment in March and September in every year; - that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first of January seventeen hundred and ninety four, viz, at the time above stated.
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written, before me
Ebenezer Harrison, J.P.
Signed, her mark Phoebe Pack
H.P. Gaines - 
City of Cincinnati
Hamilton County, Ohio, ⎬

I Ebenezer Harrison a Justice of the Peace in and for the City of Cincinnati; County of Hamilton, and State of Ohio aforesaid do hereby certify that the above named Phebe Pack (who from extreme age and bodily infirmity is unable
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to attend Court and this day swear to the
foregoing declaration before me and in my presence the same time subscribing her name thereto
In witness whereof I have  hereunto set my hand and seal this 5th 1839
Ebenezer Hamilton L.P. {seal}

Hamilton County
& State of Ohio Wit:
This day Henry Smith and Salem Enyart of lawful age, and persons of credit and veracity appeared before me the a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, and being respectively sworn in due form of law, state that they for many years well knew William Pack and Phebe
Pack, named in the foregoing declaration &
well know that they were recognized by all
of their acquaintance as man and wife, who
had been lawfully married; that the said
William Pack was the identical person
who had been receiving a pension from the
United States for service in the War of the
Revolution  and that he died on the 23rd day
of September last, leaving her the said Phebe 
his widow
In witness whereof I have hereunto set
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my hand and seal this 5th day of August 1839
Ebenezer Harrison J.P.   seal
Signed
Henry Smith
Salem Engert

5929
Phebe Pack
 Declaration for a pension
To the United States

The State of Ohio 
Hamilton County ⎬
I William H. Harrison Clerk of the
Court of Common Pleas within and for said County do hereby certify that Ebenezer Harrison whose name is subscribed to the above and foregoing depontant
was at the time of taking the same and now is an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly elected commissioned and qualified, that his Signatures above & within written are genuine, and that full faith and credit are due and ought to be given to
all his acts as such Justice
In testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand and affixed the seal of
our said Court at Cincinnati this
6th day of August AD 1839
W. H. Harrison Clerk
Jas S Snider Dpy
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Phebe Pack 
Proof
to 
of 
Marriage
The U. States
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Hamilton County Common
Pleas Court, State of Ohio
This day William T. Genter aged fifty five on the third day of May last and  a witness of truth and  veracity he being duly sworn doth
on his oath makes the following statement
into an old soldier named William Pack, Lately decd and his wife, now widow Phebe Pack; that he was acquainted with the said William & Phebe in Montgomery County in the State of Maryland from his earliest recollection, &
they were then say Fifty years ago by
Living together as man and wife  and so reputed by every person in the neighborhood, and further that they removed to the said County of Hamilton about the year 1804, and this affiant found them here upon his arrival in January in the year 1810, and they were
then living together as man & wife &
so continued until the 22nd or 23rd day
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of September of last year (1838) when
he the said William died in said County
of Hamilton, leaving the said wife as
his widow, who was remained a widow ever
since -this affiant further states, that the
said William Park was a Pensioner for
services as a soldier of the Revolution 
he this affiant well knows from fifty
years acquaintance, that the said Phebe
is the widow of the identical Wm Pack
who was a U.S. Pensioner as aforesaid
and finally, this affiant is well acquainted with the hand writing of said Wm Pack and has often seen him write & verily believes that the writing hereto and annexed, marked (A)
was done by him the said Wm and he this affiant this day saw the said leaf of writing taken from an old pocket book 
 formerly owned by the said Wm Pack, and in which he kept his only family that he knew of  (illegible) - and further affiant saith not. signed-
William T Gentle
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The State of Ohio
Hamilton County
I William H. Harrison Clerk of the
Court of Common Pleas within and for said County do hereby certify that William T. Gentle, whose name is subscribed to the foregoing deposition, personally appeared
before me and was duly sworn according to Law that the said Gentle did depose and say that the matters and facts stated in said deposition are the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth and that he also subscribed the same in our presence done
in open Court

In testimony whereof I have hereunto
set my hand and affixed the Seal
of our said Court at Cincinnati
this 19th October A.D. 1839
W. H. Harrison Clk
J S Snider Dpy
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Mary Pack Daughter of Wm
Pack and Phebe his wife was
born August 13th In the year
of our Lord and Savour 1783
John Oneale Pack Son of Am
Jack and Phebe his wife was
Born November the 10th In the
year of our Lord and Savour
Jesus Christ- (A) 1785
Enos Jack Son of Wm Pack
and Phebe his wife was born
January the 12th In the year
of our Lord and Savour 1738
Ann Pack Daughter of Am
Pack and Phebe his wife was
born May the 30th In the year
of our Lord and Savour 1790
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William Pack Son of
Thomas Pack and Elizabeth
his wife was born in
the year of our Lord and
Saviour Jesus Christ October
16th 1758

Phebe Jack Daughter of Jno Oneale
and Margaret his wife 
was born June 16 In the year of our Lord and Savour  1760
William Pack and Phebe
his wife was Married April
the 11th In the year of our
Lord and Savour 1782
March 1828 (illegible) of Am
gentle (illegible) in current paper
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July 14, 1938

BA-J/AWF
William Pack
R. 7852

Mrs. H. E. Klopp
2206 Tytus Avenue
Middletown, Ohio

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which
you request the Revolutionary War records of
William Haggit of Andover, Massachusetts, who
was killed at the battle of Bunker Hill, and of
William Pack of Frederick County, Maryland.

The Revolutionary War records of this
office have been searched and no claim for
pension found based on the service of William
Haggit, under any spelling of the name.

The data which follow were obtained from
papers on file in pension claim, R. 7853, based
on the military service of William Pack in the
Revolutionary War.

William Pack, son of Thomas Pack and his wife,
-Elizabeth, was born October 16, 1758 in Frederick
County, Maryland.

While a resident of Frederick County, Maryland, 
William Pack volunteered and served in 1776,
six months as a private in Captain Speaker's company
(this captain's name was probably Spyker) in
Colonel Charles Griffith's Maryland regiment in
the Flying Camp, was in a skirmish at "Ten Mile
Stone above New York City, and in the battle of
White Plains. He served in 1777, two months in
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Captain Jared Briscow's company, Colonel Mordeck's
Maryland regiment.

The soldier, William Pack, moved about the
year 1804, from Frederick County, Maryland, to
Hamilton County, Ohio. He was allowed pension on
his application executed September 17, 1832, at
which time he was living in Delhi Township,
Hamilton County, Ohio. He died September 28, 1838
in Hamilton County, Ohio.

William Pack married April 11, 1782 in Montgomery 
County, Maryland, Phebe Oneale. She was
born June 16, 1760, place not stated, and was the
daughter of John Oneale and his wife, Margaret.

The widow, Phebe Back, was living in 1839
in Cincinnati, Ohio, where she continued to live in
1842.

The following are the names of the children
of William Pack, and his wife, Phebe, as shown in
the claim:

Mary Born August 13, 1783
John Oneale born November 10, 1785
Enos Born January 12, 1788
Ann born May 30, 1790

The papers on file in this claim contain no
further discernible data relative to family.

Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant
to the Administrator
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1908 Apr. 2. Hist to Bessie Allen
1908 Apr 7. R.R. Jones Ohio S of R.
date of death & place,
1938 July 14 - Hist to Mrs. W.E. Klopp

REJECTED

7852
P. O.
Phebe Pack

Service;
Enlisted:
Discharged:
Application filed:
Alleges:
Re-enlisted:
Attorney:
P.O.

Recognized.
Cert. of Dis. Searched for______18

Contract.
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Phebe Pack
widow of William
Ohio
H. P. Gans
da to Hon Johnson Feb 14, 1846
7852
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of
William Park which require further proof or explanation.
1. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes
V. Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout of pension he is entitled? yes
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? certified by two (illegible)
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? yes
XIV. If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath,
certified to the  f the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And,
if not, which of them is not so answered? yes

EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being
duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served 
served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For months
, and days , I served as a For months and 
days, I served as and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about the of months is too definite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions
merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the able. It must in every case this form of a declaration is highly objection
shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration
engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the
applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either any civil pursuit hearing which the service was performed, he was not em-
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must his or her by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of entering the service and strong. The magistrate who may administer the aus
must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate
must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass
under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly
attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of
office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the
certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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Payments to be made
at Cincinnati 
by (illegible) Bank
Agent for paying Pensioners,
in the Agency of Ohio.

Recorded in the Pension offfice
in Book E Vol 8
Page 20  by (illegible) James
Clerk.
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WAR DEPARTMENT.
Revolutionary Claim.
I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June, 1832, William Pack of the State of Ohio
who was a Private in the Army
of the Revolution is entitled to receive Twenty Six dollars and Sixty Six cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing
on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March, and 4th of September, in every year.
Given at the War Office of the United
States, this 18th day of April one thousand
eight hundred and thirty three
Lew Cass
Secretary of War
Examined and Countersigned
J L Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions.
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Payments to be made
at Cincinnati
by P.C. Mann
Agent for paying Pensioners, in the Agency of Ohio

Recorded in the Pension Office,
in Book E. Vol. 8
.Page 20 by Wm R Palmer
Clerk
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Duplinate
WAR DEPARTMENT.
Revolutionary Claim.
I certify that, in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7th June, 1832, William
Pack of the State of Ohio who was a Private in the Army of the Revolution is entitled to receive twenty Six dollars and Sixty-Six cents per annum, during his natural life, commencing on the 4th of March, 1831, and payable semi-annually on the 4th of March, and 4th of September, in every year 

Given at the War Office of
the United States, this 18th  day of
 September one thousand eight 
hundred and thirty three
Lew Cass
Secretary of War.
Examined and
Countersigned.
J L Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
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Free

Col James L. Edwards,
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
D. C.

5929  Aug 12
Ohio 
July 7, 1838
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Cincinnati, Ohio
August 6th 1839
Sir
I send you enclosed a declaration,
affidavits of Phebe Pack, the widow of Wm
Park, late of this County decd with a view
of obtaining a pension under the act of
Congress of 7th July 1838
I will send you an authenticated copy
of the certificate of marriage  as it is on the
records o f Marriage Registry in Montgomery 
Maryland, as soon as I can procure it.
You will please retain the papers now
sent until you give proof of the Marriage,
unless you dispense with such proof-

There is in the possession of the family of
Wm Pack decd a book in which he registered many years ago, perhaps 40 or 50 of the ages of himself & wife of the date of their marriage (11 of April 1782). This was done when he had no interest in making a false entry, & his hand writing can be proven But, I will send you a duly certified copy from the Montgomery County Md
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5929  Aug12
Ohio
July 7 1838


Free
Col James L. Edwards,
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City
D. C

Registry of Marriages
if to be had
I am respectfully yours &c
H. P. Gaines
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Oct 19 /39
Ohio
Phebe Pack
add proof

Aug 12 
5929

Fee
Col James L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.
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Cincinnati Ohio his
October 13th 1839
Sir
I sent you some  two or three months
since, the declaration of Phebe Pack of this City, with the view of obtaining a pension in pursuance of the act of Congress of July 7th 1838
I also sent her deceased husbands pension
certificate with such proof as she could procure in this country with the exception of Wm T. Sentrys affidavit, now enclosed as a substitute  from the Marriage Registry of Montgomery County Maryland, for which latter I wrote to the clerk of that county about the time of sending the first mentioned papers to you The answer of the Clerk, marked (By) will show that no marriage Registry was kept in that County at the time of the Marriage in question and Mrs Pack says, that the evidence of Gentry and the leaf taken from her husbands family Registry are the only evidence which she could obtain. It appears to me that as the leave question bears on it the marks of having a written over many years ago, when there could have been no possible inducement to state falsehood, ought to be equal to any other register , especially, when corroborated by the deposition of Gentry sent that he knew the parties  as man & wife in Maryland & this County, for the last 50 years  Please send on the certificate enclosed to me. 
Respectfully
Yours Obt 
H.P. Gaines
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.
Rockville  25
Sept 3
H. P. Gaines Esq
Cincinnati
Ohio

(B)
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Dis
Rockville Augt 29 1839
We have no evidence
of Marriages in this Office prior
t0 '98
No record was ever kept
A memorandum only of such
was kept by the Clerk for his
own convenience
Very resptfuly
Your
pr B Selby
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Oct. 24 '42
Ohio
Col. James L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pension
Washington City
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Cincinnati, Ohio
October 17th 1842
Sir:
Some time in the year 1839,
(I think it was), I sent to the pension office
of the U,S, the application of Phebe Pack
of this city for a pension, under the provisions of the act of Congress of 7th July 1838,
she being at the time of her application
(though not at the time the act was passed)
the widow of a soldier of the Revolution
To this application, which was supported
by the regiments documents, you returned
an answer, that she was not embraced
in the act of 7th July 1838, inasmuch
as she was not a widow, when the act
was passed Mrs Pack is yet living in
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this City, and is now about 80 years of age
She sent to me to day to make another
application for her in pursuance of an act
of Congress passed since the year 1838, which
will embrace  the case of widows of Revolutionary officers & soldiers, who have become widows since the former law was passed.-
If there be a law in existence which will
embrace the case of Mr Pack, you will please
said me a form of the Declaration &c adapted
to its requisition
The former declaration and proof, are in
your office, or at least, I presume so
If you have them, it will be necessary for Mrs
Pack to identify herself with the worman of
the same name whose declaration and proofs
were sent to you at the period above stated
Is it is doubtful whether she can again
furnish the proof of Marriage & it will be
important to her that her former proofs
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are safe in your office.
Please answer this letter as soon as
may be convenient, and state whether there
be in existence a law which embraces the
case of widows who have become such
since July 1838: and whether Mrs Pack's former
papers are in the Pension office
or within your reach; and be so good as
to send me a form adapted to the case.
I am with respect
your obt servt
H. P. Gaines

P.S. The husband of Mrs Pack, was while
being a Revolutionary Pensioner; or was
, to the best of my recollection. H.P.G.
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H.  P. Gaines
Nov. 8. 1839
O.C
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98
War Dept. Pen Office
Nov 8, 1839

Sir,
The papers in the case of Mrs Phebe Pack widow of William Pack decd have been
examined.  It would appear that her husband died 23 September 1838. The Act of
7 July 1838, does not provide for any widow whose husband died after the passage of that
Act. 
The claim has therefore rejected and the papers filed in this office
H. P. Gaines Esq
Cincinnati
Ohio
5929
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H. P. Gaines
25 Oct 1842
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268
Pen Office
Oct. 25 1842
Sir
In reply to your letter of the 17th inst
in the case of Mrs Phebe Pack widow of William Pack decd I have to state that
no law passed Congress at it last session amending the act of 7 July 1868 so as to provide for those widows whose husbands died after the passage of that act.
Mr Packs claim the whose husband died after the passage of the act of 7th July 1838, therefore is still inadmissible
Her papers are on file in this office

H. P. Gaines Esqr
Cincinnati
Ohio
O.C.
5929
act 38
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R7852 on my desk
Cin. O. Mch. 23rd 1908
Honorable Commissioner of Pensions
Washington D.C.
Dear Sir
Mr. N. R. Warnock, U.S. Pension Agent at
Columbus, O. has referred me to you for
information I asked of him regarding the
service of Wm Pack a revolutionary soldier
I wish to establish my claim to membership in the D.A.R. through my paternal great grandfather, Wm Pock. He served two terms. We think that his widow was a pensioner in the forties. The records at Columbus do not go back that far.
Can you tell me the name of the
widow, Christian and maiden name,
also from what state he enlisted. This, and
any other information will be gratefully accepted by yours very truly
(Miss) Bessie, Allen 
3214 W Eight
Price Hill
Cin. O.
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Mrs. Pack lived in or near Cincinnati
at the time of drawing her pension
They were married in Maryland and
came westward from that State to Ohio

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MRS. W. E. KLOPP
2206 TYTUS AVENUE
MIDDLETOWN, OHIO
June 17, 1938
Received
JUN 20 1938

Revolutionary War
No Record
6/22/38

Bureau of Pensions,
Washington,
D. C.

Gentlemen;-
Will you please furnish me with data concerning the Military Service
and the record of Pension or Military History of the following men?
William Haggitt (Haggett-Hagit)
of Andover, Mass., who was killed in
the Battle of Bunker Hill, reported
June 17, 1775.
To whom was his pension paid? Do you
have a record of his family of any kind?

Also ---

The Military History of --WILLIAM PACK of Maryland, I think Frederick
County.
Sincerely,
Mrs. W. E. Klopp
2206 - Tytus Ave.,
Middletown
Ohio
Att: - Mrs. Finch
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Record Division      3____525

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.,_______________190__
In reply to your request of______
received_______
a statement of the military history of
William Pack a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired
information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau.
DATES OF  (illegible)
ENLISTMENT OR   (illegible)
APPOINTMENT. (illegible)
LENGTH OF (illegible)
SERVICE. (illegible)
RANK. (illegible)
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.  (illegible)
CAPTAIN. (illegible)
COLONEL. (illegible)
STATE. (illegible)
Battles engaged in (illegible)
Residence of soldier at enlistment,
Frederick Co Md
Date of application for pension,
  (illegible)
Residence at date of application,
Delhi Twp, Hamlton Co, Ohio
Age at date of application,
Born in Frederick Co, Md Oct 16, 1758
died in Hamiton Co Ohio Sept 23, 1838
Remarks: was the Son of Thomas and Elizabeth Pack (illegible)
John Mangan H Peale was
Mary Aug 13 1783, John Pate
(illegible)
Very respectfully,
COMMISSIONER
I did not say anything about rejection of widow's claim as it was only on legal grounds She was not a widow at date of Act July 8 1838
under which she applied