Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 38443, for William Tiller, Virginia
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SERVICE           CONTENTS         NUMBER
Continental      Tiller, William     S.38443
Va.
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Let to the Hon G. W. Hopkins, Sept
30 1844
Dead
Letter to Hon G. W. Hopkins 
24 Feb 1846
Sausa f----of 3 March 1846
Same f---- of 3 and 18 May
1846 - to same June 1. 1846
let to Hon A. J. Fulton
March 10 '48
Same form as of 3 auditors
5 July 1848
Date of death
notorary

1830
18380
Virginia
William Tiller
Russell Co in the State of Virginia
who was a Private in the Regiment commanded by
Colonel Parker of the Virginia
line, for the term of four years

Inscribed on the Roll of Virginia
at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence on
the 5 of May 1818

Certificate of Pension issued the 19 of Nov
1821
and sent to Henry Dickenson
Lebanon, Va

Arrears to 4th of Sept 1821               320.02
Semi anl, all'ce ending March 1822     48
39 mo 27/31 6/30                              368-2
8
312
6.96
1.06
320.02
-
Revolutionary claim,
Act 18th March, 1818.}
-
May 1, 1820
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1919
Wm Tiller,
Va line
---
Henry Dickerson
Agt.
Lebanon, Va
Recd 22 Jan 1821.
served under Col Scott
1776 ~ 2 Yrs
1779 - 1782 under
Col Parker
Jones Dist No
were
as west
his Captain La
Wid. letter to Agent 30 Jan 1821
perhapsh's name
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District of Virginia, Ss.
On this 2 day of January 1821, personally ap-
 peared in open Court, being a court of Record for the County of Russell in the State of Virginia William Tiller, age sixty four years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by the Act of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 and the 1st of May 1820, that he the said William Tiller enlisted for the term of two about the 4th day of March in the year 1776 or 1777 in the State of Virginia in the company commanded by 
Capt Henry Terrill, in the Regiment commanded by Col Scott, (did not recollect his christian name) in the line of the State of Virginia on the American Continental establishment, that he continued in said service for the term of two years, (except about 6 months, for which tent 
he was confined by sickness at his sisters, and at her whither he had gone on furlough) and was discharged at Valley Forge in the State of Pennsylvania. That he again immediately enlisted for the term of three years on the ninth day of June in the year 1778 or 1779 in the 
State of Pennsylvania at Valley Forge, in the company commanded by Capt Samuel Tapley, in the regiment commanded by Col Parker, which regiment was afterwards commanded by Col Nathaniel Gist, in the line of the State of Virginia on the Continental Establishment. That 
he continued to serve in the said corps until the 28th of July in the year 1781 or 1782 and in the City of Williamsburg in the state of Virginia he was discharged by Major Leftwich - of which service he has made a declaration on the 5th day of May 1818 before this Court, but 
he has not yet received a pension certificate. The said William Tiller and made oath that he was in the battle at Stoney Point in the State of New York, and in the siege of Charleston in South Carolina.  This,in addition to what he had before stated in all the
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evidence the said William Tiller can produce of his service, except two affidavits taken, the one by justice of the peace of the County of Montgomery, The other by a magistrate of the County of Giles, which affiants were proved to be under the character of enviable persons and witnesses; and the said affidavits are in the following words & figures viz: “Montgomery County to wit, this day James Simpkins came before me a justice of the peace for the County aforesaid, and made oath that he is acquainted with one William Tiller; that his acquaintance commenced as well as he recollects in the year 1777, during the Revolutionary War that the said Tiller was at that time a soldier in Capt Tapleys company attached to the 12th Virginia Regiment on Continental establishment; and that he & the said William Tiller continued in the service & in the said company nearly three years as well as he recollects. The said Simpkins further states that he believes said Tiller was a Corporal, and conducted himself in a soldier like manner. Given under my hand this 12th day of May 1820. “James Charlton, Giles County to wit; This day William Simpkins came before me Thomas Sherman a justice of the peace for the County aforesaid and made oath that he was acquaint with William Tiller who now lives in Russell County and served with him in the Revolutionary War, and was in Colonel Giles Regiment part of the time and part of the time in Colonel Woods Regt and was in the service three years he was marched to the South and understood that he was taken prisoner by the British. Sworn to and subscribed before me this 12th day of May 1820 his William V Simpkins certified under my hand & seal the day and year as above Thos Hanna ℗ Certified above
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And in pursuance of the act of the 1st of May 1820 I do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18th day of March One thousand eight hundred and eighteen; and that I have not since that time by gift, sale, or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it, as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress, entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the Land and Naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War passed on the 18th day of March One thousand eight hundred and eighteen, and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or securities contracts or debts due to me, nor have I any income other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed, to wit, 40 acres of land; one brown mare, one cow and calf; copper tools, two axes, two hoes one plough; two cleavers, 1 skillet; two plates; 1 basin; 1 piggin; 1 keeler; 1 bed and furniture; two barrels; one comb two tin cups, two knives and two forks, one bottle; one can; 2 plates; 1 tin cup
William Tiller
The said William Tiller also made oath that he is farmer and cooper by occupation but is so infirm and so frequently indisposed that he can perform but little manual labor; that his family consists of his daughter aged about twenty years who is unmarried and has a child and looks to him for subsistence.
Sworn to and declared on the 2d day of January, in the year 1821, before the Court of Russell County in the State of Virginia aforesaid.
 I Henry Dickinson Clerk of the Court of the said County of Russell in the State aforesaid do certify that
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The foregoing oath and the schedule thereto annexed were truly copied from the record of said Court: and I do further certify that it is the opinion of the court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the foregoing schedule is eighty dollars. In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court, on this eleventh day of January 1821.
 Henry Dickenson Clerk of the Court of the County of Russell in Virginia
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William Tiller
Virginia line 
12 Regiment Col Parker 1778- 
Proof of service wanted the deposition of Two distinguished & credible witnesses/or the certification of an officer of the right duly taken and rendered
22 September 1819
Vid letter to Agent 30 Jan 1821.
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Virginia
At a Court held for Russell County the 5th day of May 1818 
William Tiller who resides in the County of Russell in this State, wishing to become a pensioner pursuant to the provisions of an Act of the Congress of the United States passed on the 18th day of March 1818 entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War personally appeared in Court and declared on his oath, that he enlisted at the Valley Forge, he believes in the year 1778, in the 12th Virginia Regiment as a private soldier which Regiment was commanded by Colo: Parker (he forgets his Christian name) and in a company commanded by Capt Samuel Tapley; he also served under Col Nathaniel Guess, and Lieut Colo. Clark; he believe he served about five years and was discharged at Williamsburg in Virginia he thinks by Major Leftwich. He was at Stoney Point in the State of New York under General Wayne Commander, when an engagement took place in which 450 of the enemy were made prisoners; Colo. Gibson & Col Ball were present at the battle.  The Corps he served in was called the flying Camp.  Lord Sterling sometimes commanded the American Division.
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On the 13th day of July at night the Americans took the fort:  The Commander ordered a halt on a little field, and a short space before the attack commenced, each man had a small piece of white paper in his hat in order to distinguish the Americans from the British; that the Americans advanced in their columns in making the attack, one column marching up the river, another down, and the third in flank.  He also stated that he was in the seige of Charleston.  And from the knowledge which some of the members of the Court as well as from other satisfactory evidence the Court are unanimously of opinion, and to hereby certify that the said Wiliam Tiller is a person of credit as a witness;  that it was generally understood in the neighborhood of the residence of the said William Tiller previous to the passage of the said Act of congress, that the said William Tiller had served in the Revolutionary War; and that the said William Tiller is in such reduced circumstances in life as to need assistance from his country for support.  All of which is ordered to be certified to the Secretary of the Department of War.

And, 
At a Court held for the said County of
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of Rusell the 1st day of June 1819
This day came into Court William Tiller, who at a Court held for this County the 5th day of May 1818 made a declaration on oath for the purpose of obtaining the pension allowed by the Act of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 and having repeated his said declaration the judge of the Court is of opinion that his statement so made is true, which is ordered to be certified to the Secretary of War.
A Copy Teste
Henry Dickenson  C. RC.
I Henry Dickenson Clerk of the County Court of Rusell County aforesaid in the State of Virginia do certify that the foregoing is a copy of the declaration on oath of William Tiller, an applicant for a pension & of the subsequent proceedings therefore, in the Court of said County.
In testimony whereof, I have set my hand and affixed the seal of the said County at the Courthouse on the ninth day of June 1818 & 43rd year of the Commonwealth.
Heny Dickenson
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Russell County to wit - 
I John Tate presiding justice of the Court of the said county do certify that Henry Dickenson whose attestations appear to the foregoing certificate is clerk of the said County Court, and that the said attestation is in due form of law.  Given under my hand this 3rd day of August 1819.

John Tate [signature]
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[Typed]
August 30, 1935
XXXXXXXXXXXXX
BA-J/KEL
William Tiller - S.38443

Mrs. Royal Johnson
437 East Forsyth Street
Jacksonville, Florida

Dear Madam:

Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to the Teller, Tillar, Tiller, Tilley families.  You state that your ancestor was from Virginia and that he had a son John Tiller, born in 1758.

There is no claim for pension on file based upon the service of a soldier of Virginia with the surname Tiller (variously spelled) who could have had a son born as early as 1758.  The record of only one soldier of Virginia with that surname has been found.  It is that of William.  His record is given herein as found in pension claim, S-38443, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.  His record may be of interest to you.  The surname Tilley is borne many times on the Revolutionary War records, therefore, in order to identify any particular record the full name is essential and all possible data relative to age, residences, etc.

The date and place of birth and the names of the parents of William Tiller are not shown.

William Tiller enlisted in the state of Virginia, in 1776 or 1777, served in Captain Henry Terrell's Company, Colonels Scotts's and Parker's Virginia Regiments, and in Captain Samuel Lapsley's Company, Colonel Nathaniel Gist's Regiment, was at the taking of Stony Point and at the siege of Charleston, where he received two wounds and was taken prisoner; was exchanged and served until July 28, 1781 or 1782.  It was stated that he served as corporal.

He was allowed pension on his application executed May 5, 181, while residing in Russell County, Virginia.

In 1821, he gave is age as sixty-four years and stated that his family then residing with him consisted of his daughter, aged about twenty-one years and his daughter's child but gave no names.

[In the right margin in handwriting]
This case was so contradictory & mixed up.  I could not set out the different services but had to write it this way.  He did not say he served as corporal but a witness did.
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It was stated that when William Tiller died, he left no widow but a number of children servived him.  A sister was also referred but no names of any of the relatives of William Tiller are shown.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, William Tiller (S-38443) you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Offices, Records Division, this city, and cite the following dates

William Tiller, Certificate No. [Illegible], issued November 19, 1821. rate $8 per month, commenced May 5, 1818. Act of March 18, 1818, Virginia Agency.

Very Truly yours

A.D. Miller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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J.L. Edwards Esquire
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Lebanon Virginia February 21st, 1821
Sir,
I have conversed with William Tiller, the applicant mentioned in the accompanying papers since their return from the War Department, and in explanation of the difficulties suggested in your letter to me dated the 30th ult.  The applicant states that the Corps of regulars in which he served were at certain periods called the flying camp [flying camp is underlined], - because wherever the light companies and cavalry were directed in their operation this corps were required to follow and hence at such times they asumed to themselves that name. - He states most exspresly that they were of the regular Army V Continental Establishment and not of the militia. He has a Journal of his services reciting various incidents and the particular movements of that part of the army in which he served, [lined out: a copy of which I] written as he states during the time of his services -  a copy of which I will send you to be laid before the Secretary at War in case the explanation should not be considered sufficiently satisfactory,  - and in which event you will please retain these papers till its arrival.
Yours respectfully
Henry Dickman
J L Edwards Esq
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Henry Dickerson Esq
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War Department
Pension Office
30 Jan 1821
Sir,
The documents in the case of William Tiller have been examined and are herewith returned for further information.  The applicant states in his first declaration "that the corps in which he served was called the flying camp", which corps was not in the continental establishments and yet mentions that the regiment to which he belonged was commanded by Col Parker and afterwards by Col Gist, both of whom were on the continental establishments.  The papers are returned to afford opportunity for explanation
Respectfully,
J.L. Edwards

Henry Dickerson Esqr
Lebanon, Va
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Lebanon Va
February 22nd 1821                     Free
The Secretary at War
Washington City

[on left margin] 7.719
William Tiller
Henry Dickerson
Lebanon, VA 
Rec'd 6 Mar 1821
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House of Reps 15 Feb 48
Sir
I take the liberty of enclosing to you a letter received by me, making certain enquiries which can only be answered at your office - May I request your particular attention to the subject, and a reply at as early as may as your conscience will permit.   Please return me the enclosed letter -
Very Respectfully 
Your Obt. St.
And. J. Fulton
Hon J.L. Edwards
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38 443
INVALID.
Revy.
File No 38,443
William Tiller

Div. Rev. War

Act: 18th March 18
Index:-Vol. 2, page 511

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1935 Aug 30 Hist to Mrs Royal Johnson - EL
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MRS. ROYAL JOHNSON
437 EAST FORSYTH STREET
JACKSONVILLE, FLA.

July 5, 1935
Veterans Administration, Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir,
Can you kindly assist me in checking a name,  - "Tiller", -  my mother's line?
In the Revolutionary Roster I find no "Tiller's" listed as Soldiers, but find "Tillar's" and "Tilley's".
In the "Lineage of Members of the National Society of
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MRS. ROYAL JOHNSON
437 EAST FORSYTH STREET
JACKSONVILLE, FLA.

the Sons and Daughters of the Pilgrims", by Mrs Otto Walther Kulling, I find quite a lot of "Teller's".  I note that among the "Teller" women, "Maria" is a repeated name and it has been in my "Tiller" line, as I am the fourth thus named in recent relatives.
I have heard from childhood that my Great-Great-Great-Grandfather "Tiller" was a Revolutionary Souldier from Virginia.
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MRS. ROYAL JOHNSON
437 EAST FORSYTH STREET
JACKSONVILLE, FLA.

His son, John "Tiller" (?). born May 3rd, 1758; married Nancy ?; born Mar. 20,1765 and they came from, (I think, Fluvanna County), VA., to Wilkes County, Georgia.  He had a "Land Grant", of 300 acres there in 1785, Records show.  Now Who was the Father of "John Tiller"?
Any information will be greatly appreciated.
I Remain,
Respectfully, 
Mrs. Maria Thornton Johnson
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[Seal]
RECEIVED
JUL 8 1935
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETR. ADM
LEADER 28
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William Tiller, Virginia [illegible] 1818

Be pleased to say from what date payment was made and to what time paid.
Pension Office
Sept 30,1844

[in smaller handwriting]
Invalid placed on Roll from May 5, 1818.  No payments 
[illegible initials]
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Lebanon Va.                                   FREE
Sept. 20th

J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
War Dept.
Washington city
DC
Wm. Tiller
[illegible] Act
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Lebanon Virginia Sep 17th 1844

Col. J.L. Edwards
Dr Sir
Many years ago a pension was allowed to William Tiller then a resident of Russell County in this State [   ] and a certificate was issued.  But before any part of his pension was received, his certificate was lost and he has since died leaving a number of children and no widow.  The object of this letter is to solicit the favor from you of suitable forms for collecting the pensions in the name of his children who are entitled to it.  In furnishing them you will remember that the certificate has been lost, and that the pension is due to his children, there being no widow.
I will be obliged to you to refer this letter to the proper office in order that I may be informed whether the heirs of Tiller are entitled to Bounty Land for his Services in the war of the Revolution.
I am Sir
with great respect
yours truly
Geo W Hopkin

]

Please send the forms to the address of 
W. John Cook
Lebanon
Russell Co. Va
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Lebanon Virginia
May 30. 1821.
Sir
The within is the Journal of Wm. Tiller an applicant for a pension under the act of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 & 1st May 1820.- He says it is taken from a paper he made at the time of his service.  I believe it is his own hand writing. If the Department has not disposed of his case it may perhaps give them some assistance in deciding whether he was of the Continental establishment or not.  The paper was before me at the time the said Tiller renewed his application but was not particularly examined - his statement was taken from his oral information given in Court without reference to the paper.  And this journal would have been sent on sooner had not a gentleman of the bar residing in an adjoining county desired to take it with him for perusal, from whom it could not sooner be had.  I promised to send a copy, but the
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difficulty of transcribing a paper so defective in orthography has deterred me - and the paper itself may perhaps be worthy of presentation in the archives of the War department on account of the peculiarities attached to it.  The applicant at this time appears to be in a distressed situation, and certainly needs assistance if his case comes within the law. -   It will be extremely grateful to him if from an early attention to his case he shall be successful in getting something to relieve him.
Yours respectfully
Henry Dickenson Clerk of the County Court of Russell in Virginia
Hon: Secy at War
Washington
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The travel and journal of William Tiller his setting out in the Revolutionary War in the three years Serves his listing at a place called the Valley Forge in Pennsylvania on Schuylkill River his listing in Samuel Lapley Company in the Eight regiment under the Command of Colonel Parker at that time as well as I remember but in a little time under the Command of Colonel Nathaniel Gist after we got to a place called the White Plains in New York State my listing for three years the ninth day of June in the year of [illegible] or in 1818. I am not sure which but I think seventy-eight as well as I remember when the grand army marched from the Valley Forge there was about three hundred of us receiving the same power. We was put under the command of Maryland major and from of scars and to march in the rear for we was weak and take the lefthand road and to met the grand army at Kings Ferry accordingly after the battle of Monmouth and I did from there sent to the White Plains in New York set were we
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had Sum littel time and had sevrel smawl fights with the brithish but no ginril in gagement at that tim from thenth to plas caled robsands plans ner westpourn fort upon the north were from thenth to a plas caled middil Crock to winters quarters the 2 day of the sun filing the Camp pain springed and the 3 day we marched back to the north river agane to a place caled Smith Clove at the had of one foork of Sickant river from thenth down the sad fourk to a place caled the head of pumton plans from thenth we marched back agan to Smiths Clove where we had Camped from thenth to a pas caled forist dun which we were thar the long rob was bet for us to pernad remeber it was in the after nom the thertenth day of July under Clok to [illegible] Janarl washinton but it was to go and take Stonny pount in littel tim we marched well first with good guns and baynits we machad of and com to a place where we cop apacket gard and there we met with owr lit infentree and a ton of artilry and ingonsness with the Slow mach lit we was ored
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to halt and fall in the rear well we fel in i remember that i sad know boys you may know wat we are gurn to the Sad yes we marchid along till we cam to fweld we was ourdered to halt and not to spoke over our hesper and to be ready at moment warning in a littel tim we was ordered to Stand to our arms ready to march thean Come afsear with som whit paper to put in the four Corners of our hats to desting us from the british we was to march amediley in a few minnits the Seternels fired upon us there alarm drums beat there alarm Cannon fired our Ginarl Cride out and others Commanding observs rushon my brave herows the fort is our own we desplaid our Collams and Sealed thear fashenwals and rushed in and after we got pershishion we turned thar Cannon round and fired upon the long war ships that led in betwen the two forts then cut there cabels and got out of the way and down the river four mills and ankerd agin the sam morning we sent desptin and forty men down the [illegible] Ships [illegible' There found aleven british Soulers hid against the Shipmen brot them to the fort along british Ship of war led above the fort
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she runing by we fired upon every heavy to sink her but she
got by to ships and after evil [illegible] Washinton cam and
his life gard to see not we had done there being [illegible] being
found in the fort they ware condemned to do we sat down the
Clay S and gates of it and them there on and while the ware
hanging the same I stay of war that run by came up from the
ships and about galley with her from the ships and the fired
upon us the howl time the men [illegible] hanging several member willed
and som wounded after this we torn there fashiens walls to peris
and Lot the fort on her and blowed up there [illegible] and left
the fort from theenth back to our tents to [illegible] Clove from thenth
to prenton plains again where we had camped before in afore days after we go ther we
sent of a detachment of nine hundred men
to fowlers houch and stormed it and took out about a hundred
fifty prisoners with the loss of but few men from thenth to
persons Church on the man fork of Sechant river from thenth
to harvestow Crick from thent to winter in it was on the
Sixteenth of November to [illegible] cold morries town in [illegible]
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days after we got there orders came for us to march to the South
from the trent worn from thenth to filledelly from
tenth to Richmond in Virginia from then to lusters being from ┃
month to Charles town in South Carolina on the Seventh of ┃
on the thirteenth day of the said month the Brittish upon the
try upon us about eight or nine oclock in the morning with
there cannon then be shels then Corkises the smowl arms and every
thing they could destroy us with and it continued
night and day we never had the church to press of our close but
fore time for for the weakes we had to light wit and day me
one night there was twelve thousand tried to for upon us and had
like to got in asmard battey that we had outord four mane
garner abotry led the half worn bety but we let them
No
back with the four of our cannon and small arms remember that
night there was twenty seven round fined with the small arms
itten our fort was too up with tears be held and
seven of our cannon demoned a member about that time receved
to wounds by bushels that shall carry to my gran one in my half
┃ man one in my schrit part
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were Sargent hundly was cold and Richard Spendler was old [crossed out ] one
was taking of me where he was old the other close to me alow days after
Cornal parker was old by cannon bowl and a Janvil mutry aday camp
was old by canon eval but at last had to give up after fiting hand for
we had no church we was weak thee bend but too thousand eight
hundred in the fort the brick was strong their was fifteen
thousand of them be sid there shiping when we gave up the came
town grancy do rigments and took pershishon of our men for cold
the hour works and then we marched out betwen the Brestworks
and gave up our arms they would not suffer not at any
britch march nor to have our culars on cased so we let the turksman
and the arms and then marched in to the barich and remined
personers forteen months an half and then the exchange took place six
Ships and seven brig to take us round to James town in Virgina
State and their we was landed and exchanged man for man ten we was
marched to Williams being and declared by one mager letting
the sign be given thee the with the tenth of april and ended the twelf
day of may in eighty or eight or did remember which
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so shall include by giving are account of some of your fold
pears that command us when we was in the order that
Genvil Scot command our brigade the first Sumor the next summon
Tanvil millan being the third summon anvil woodland comanded
in the south at the siege of Charls toon and Courtal bowl and
Counal parky and Cornal gists and cornal Clark and Counal area
Tanvil linkharn was our commander in chil during the sign
shall not give account of my fears of the company that did
belonged to Samuel Lapsley captin Sudul walker first lifteament
Missender Crackkining shant tenants sought Walker
in sign our Sargent Julias Clackburn John honor James Smith
Peter Parish corpils william tiller Edward Thomas ambres Towns
the private men John save ely [illegible robards charle wimour absham cutly]
James Sunkinds William Sumens gavet sunkins richard minton
Thomas along mound petilton Thomas price owing any
and James Robert James Michell
John Coorhand Thomas Smith
James Gibson and many moon but then
names you out of my had some new receive the can not remember
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her by such my humbly application to the cost of [illegible] County
that thou stook in my officers and hath ford for my
country and help me in geting my [illegible granchary] money all
past labour have found to help me to nothing of the Lord will
gentlemen of the cout that my land pay in your right to favor me to [illegible] 
my pencing money as it is allowed to sum we faithful
three year till the day was changed and
when was out in the to year same at a fort on him in the to
and never got back till the going fowling for had got the sum
age at the head of Elk river it was the sixteenth day of October
we got my unto my captin came home and removed my furlo
till the spring of the year and the event he had venter again
and served out my time and took some men from Winchester by
the command of Comal sames wood Cournal of the seventh Virgie
ment at that Amended Provision for them and delivered
these Compy and wrigent so we at present
William Tiller