Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 4752, for Daniel Ramsay, North Carolina
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N.C      Ramsay, Daniel                 Number: S.4752
            or
            Ramsey                              Carded
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19.106
West Tennessee
Daniel Ramsey §
Jackson Co. in the State of Tennessee
who was a private in the company commanded by  Captain McFarland of the Regiment commanded by Col. Collier in the N. Carolina line for 13 months and 16 days

Daniel Ramsay 
Records corrected May 9, 1904 L.

Inscribed on the Roll of W. Tennessee
at the rate of 44 Dollars 88 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.

Certificate of Pension issued the 2 day of Aug't 1833 and sent to Tom Smith Gainesboro

Arrears to the 4th of March 89.76
Semi-anl. allowance ending 4 Sept. 22.44 =
$112.20

{Revolutionary Claim,}
{Act June 7, 1832.}
Recorded by Dan'l Boyd Clerk,
Book E. Vol.    Page 94
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No. 15470
Daniel Ramsay
Jackson County
Tennessee
from 1780 private
1yr , 1 inf. 16 days
$44.88


Tom Smith
Gainsboro Tennessee
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BRIEF in the case of Daniel Ramsay County of Jackon in the State of Tennessee
(Act 7th June 1832.)

1.Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court

2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? 

3. How old is he? 69 years

4. State his service as directed in the form annexed.

[Headings]
Period. | Duration of Service. | Rank. | Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.

Vol. Sub in 1780 | 3 mos. | private | Gen'l Butler, Capt. McFarland Col. Collier

[blank] | time not mentioned | Private | Col. Moore

Sub - | 3 mos | Private | [blank]

Vol. 1781 | 1 mos. 14 days | [blank] | Capt. Herndon  Col. Moore

[blank] | 3 mos. | [blank] | [blank]

5. In what battles was she engaged?at  Camden at Gate's defeat, a Skirmish on Haw River, Eutaw Springs

6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Caswell County North Carolina

7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary

8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Clerks seal not attached

I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
[Signature]
J. W. Clagett
Examining Clerk.
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15470
Daniel Ramsay
Pension Declaration
Jackson County 
Tennessee
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State of Tennessee} On this 14th day of May 
Jackson County} 1833 Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for said county appeared in open court before the now sitting, Daniel Ramsay a resident in the County of Jackson & State of Tennessee aged about sixty nine years who being first sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers & served as herein stated in the year 1780 the month of June he volunteered as a substitute for one William Walker in Caswell County North Carolina where he then resided under Capt. Daniel McFarland & Col. Collier and marched to deep river he thinks in Chatham County N. Carolina where he joined headquarters commanded by Gen'l Butler from thence to Camden & joined Gen'l Gates he was in the battle of Camden in Gate's defeat which was in the summer of 1780 after Gates defeat he returned home after serving a tour of three months. After remaining at home eight or ten days he went to Hillsborough & again joined Col. Moore's Regiment the 1st of Sept. 1780 there were 19 or 20 baggage waggons along going towards Guilford in proceeding towards the Ready Fork of Haw River ford they were to be attacked by the British when Col. Moore & Col. Pickins formed their Regiments for trouble & gave the waggons time to go on to the ford of the river we were attacked by the British gave them only one fire & ran on to this ford of the River Col. Washington & Col. Lee with their light horse guarded the ford until the waggons passed over - At Rugeley's Millls there were a large number of tories assembled Col. Moore &  Pickins marched there with their regiments & found the tories stationed in a house, we had no cannon, cut a pair log blacked the end & put it on wheels to represent one in order to deceive them in which we succeeded & took them without firing a gun carried the tories from Rugebey's mill to Salisbury & built a house to contain them. applicant was then dischrged by one Capt. Oldhaus after serving a tour of three months but has lost his discharge many years since - Int the latter part of the year 1780
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in the month of October Applicant substituted for one John Akins on a tour of three months, in this tour he was altogether employed in scouting the county traveling the county in various directions some times as high up as Salisbury & return home after a three month tour; In February 1781 applicants recollection serves him he volunteered on a three months tour & went to guard Boyds Ferry on Dan River he thinks Capt. Herndon Haroldson & Col. Moore were both at this ferry he only served six weeks in this tour his recollection is that if the men would turn out on this tour it should serve for a three months tour not having time to make a draft so they only served six weeks.
In 1781 the month of June Applicant substituted for one Yancy Baley he  thinks under Capt. H. Heraldson & Col. Moore marched from home went by Camden & the High HIlls of Santee & joined Gen'l Gates army some time after the Battle of Guilford Court House from Guilford marched on toward the Eutaw Springs & was in that battle in the month of Sept. from the Eutaw Springs applicant with some militia Col. More & Pickins carried the prisoners that were taken in that battle to Salisbury he was then discharged & went home this was also a tour of three months. Applcant was born in the year 1760 - he has a record of his age in his possession made by his father & mother during the Revolutionary war - From Caswell County when  entered the service he moved to Granville County N. Carolina  lived there three years he then moved to Jackson County Tennessee where he now lives, applicant regularly received discharges every tour but not believing such papers would ever be of any service to him they have long since been lost or destroyed. In his whole service he was a private & served as a soldier in actual service thirteen months & two weeks in all, by reason of old age & loss of memory he cannot state the exact date of the month when he entered the service or when he was discharged in his different tours but he is certain he served the thirteen months & two weeks in all applicant knows of no living witness by whom he can prove his service as a soldier of the Revolution nor has he any documentary evidence to show it, the last evidence
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he can procure is the certificate of James Griffith & Reuben Graves one of whom is a clergyman who will testify to his character for veracity & the belief in the neighbourhood that he was a soldier of the Revolution was a volunteer in his service [illegible] he states that he was a substitute. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state to his knowledge
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
[Signatures]
James Ramsay
William Gailbreath Clerk
of Jackson County Court

We James Griffith a clergyman residing in the county of Jackson & State of Tennessee and Reuben Graves residing in the same county & State hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Daniel Ramsay who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be sixty nine years of age; that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion. Sworn to & Subscribed the day & year aforesaid.
[Signatures]
James Griffith
Reuben Graves
William Gailbreath Clerk
of Jackson County Court

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above applicant was a revolutionary soldier & served as his states. And the court further certifies that it appears to them that James Griffith who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the county of Jackson and that Reuben Greaves who has also signed the same is a resident in the county of Jackson & is a credible person & that their statement is entitled to credit.
[Signatures]
John McCarver
John Graham
Sandy H. Witcher
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I William Gailbreath clerk of the court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for Jackson County Tennessee do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Daniel Ramsay for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 14th day of May 1833.
[Signature]
William Gailbreath Clerk
of Jackson County Court
[Seal]
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Rev War 4752
INVALID.
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File No. 4752
Danil* Ramsey §
Prvt. Rev. War.
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Act: June 7th 1832.
Index:-Vol. M, Page 308
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Daniel* Ramsay §
Records corrected 
May 9, 1904 L.
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Revolutionary War.
S. File 4702
Correct the Record and Jacket to show:
Daniel Ramsay - Ramsey incorrect.
Christian name on File Jacket should be Daniel.
A.H.M.

May 3 /04.
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WIDOWS

______________________________________
Widow of ___________________________
______________________________________
____________Co., ____________Reg't _____________
Enlisted ___________________________, 18___.
Discharged ________________________, 18___.
No prior or subservice ______________
Origin and continuance _____________
Died ______________________, 18 _______
Death first husband ___________, 18___
Death first wife _______________, 18____
Marriage ______________________, 18____
__________born __________, 18___
__________born __________, 18___
__________born __________, 18___
__________born __________, 18___
__________born __________, 18___
__________born __________, 18___
__________born __________, 18___
__________born __________, 18___
No divorce __________________________________
Property and income ________________________
Assessments _________________________________
Remarriage ____________________________, 18___
Children living ________________________________
Credibility _____________________________________
No prior claim __________________________, 18___
1806b40m     0-8
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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Daniel Ramsay which require further proof or explanation. 

I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes

II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes

III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?  - 

IV. Has the declarant mentioned the periods of the war when he served? Yes

V. *Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amout [amount] of pension he is entitled? No

VI. Has he given the names of the officers under who he served, in conformity with the regulations?Yes

VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes

VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes

IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes

X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? No
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XI. has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Yes

XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? -

XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, as he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? Yes

XIV. +If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? 
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? 
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? c

XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? No witness

XVI. ++Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? No

XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? Answered
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EXPLANATORY NOTES.
*Quere V.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:  "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned a Justice of the Peace, &c. A.B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____year _____months, and _____days, I served as a ______ For ______months and _____days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension.
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It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is highly objectionable.  It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.

(+) QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.

In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.

(++) QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.

In every instance where the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
[hand pointing right] In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
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15470
Daniel Ramsay