Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 32467, for Allen Ramsey, Pennsylvania
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 SERVICE - Penn.
Ramsey, Allen
NUMBER - S.32467
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Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the [illegible] 1838 from 4 March 1837 to 4 Sept. 1837. [Illegible] 19 Aug 1839.

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Illinois  25.99b.

Allen Ramsay

Wabash Co. in the State of Ill was a [illegible] in the Company commanded by Captain Bruce of the Regmt commanded by Col. Cox in the Pennsylvania [illegible][illegible] $23.33

Enscribed on the Roll of Illinois is the rate of 23 Dollars and 33 cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March 1834.

Certificate of Pension ifound the 10th day of July, and [illegible] rest of line]

Arrears to the 4th of April 1833 58.33
Semi-anl. allowance ending [illegible] 11.66
$ 70.00
(Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832)
Recorded by P. T> Opragur Clerk, 
Book 6 Vol. 8  Page 61
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29.449

Application of
Allen Ramsay
for a pension
Illinois

Adm. 7 Months

$73.33

Hiram Bele
Mount Carmel
Illinois
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Declaration

In Order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress [illegible[ June  7th 1832.

State of Illinois
County of Wabash    SS
     On this the   day of December A.D. 1833 personally appeared in open Court, before the County Commissioner, Court of said County now sitting Allen Ramsey a resident of said County of Wabash and of State of Illinois aged sixty nine years, who being first duly sworn   according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832. 

That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officer and served as herein stated, that he first entered the service as a substitute for Joshua Thompson on or about the first of July in the year 1780 in Captain William Prices Company in Washington County and  State of Pennsylvania, and was attached to Col. Gabrial Cox's Regiment marched to Pittsburgh from there on down the Ohio River to the mouth of 
 Muskingum from there to the mouth of Kanawha, when he was discharged after having served two months as a private, -- on the first of June 1781 he was drafted, and marched to a station at Logstown on the Ohio River at Grave Creek in Captain John Wall 's Company served three months as a private, and was discharged, again in 1782, he was drafted  and marched in Captain [illegible] company to which he was attached, under Col. Crawford to the Sandusky Lawns and there he was engaged in a Battle with the Indians and British and was defeated and lost about three hundred men, in this [illegible] he served two months, as a private at this period and was discharged. But received no written discharge for either tour, to the best of his recollection

He was born in Harford County in the State of
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Maryland on the 12th day of June in the year 1766. The record of his age is at his place of residence taken from the record in his fathers Family Bible.

That his mother moved from Maryland to Washington County Pennsylvania where he resided until the year 1784 when he this [illegible] moved to Port Vincent (now Vincennes) in the State of Indiana, in the year 1792 he was taken prisoner by the Potawatomi Indians  and had about 300 Dollars worth of property taken and destroyed by them, since the year 1784 he has lived in Indiana until the last fourteen years he has lived in Wabash County in the State of Illinois, that he has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure, who can testify to his service.

He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any estate --  
Allen Ramsay

Sworn to and subscribed the day 
and year aforesaid  

Hiram Bell Clerk
 
Mr. William Canter a clergyman, residing in the County of Wabash and State of Illinois, and Orlando B. Ficklin residing in (the same)  hereby certify, that we are [illegible] acquainted with Allen Ramsay, who has submitted and sworn to the above declwe believe him to be sixty nine years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn to and subscribed this day and year aforesaid

Hiram Bell Clerk

[Signatures] William [illegible]
Orlando B Ficklin

And the said [illegible] do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named  affidavit was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states, And
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And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that William [illegible] who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in the said County of Wabash that Orlando B. Ficklin who has also signed the same is a resident in the same County, and is 
a credible person and that their statement, is entitled to credit. 

Ephraim Shar
Beauchamp Harvey
John Compton
Judges of Geo Common Court 

I Hiram Bell Clerk of the County Commissioners Court of said County, of Wabash do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of 

the application of Allen Ramsay for a pension.

In testimony wherefor I have hereunto set my hand a seal of office this 3rd day of December A.D. 1838

Hiram Bell Clerk
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   Apr il 23,  1935    
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Allen Ramsey-S.32467
BA-J/AWF

Mr. Allen R. Johnson
P.O. Box  88
Palestine, Texas

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to y our letter in which you request information in regard to James Johnson (Johnston) and Allen Ramsey, soldiers of the War of the Revolution both  of Pennsylvania and Indiana.

[Words typed over each other] furnished by you are not sufficient to enable this office to identify the record of the Jamse Johnson (Johnston) in whom you are interested.  Please furnish as much as possible of the following data in regard to this soldier:  approximate dates of birth and death and places of residence at enlistment and after service.  Upon receipt of this information another search of the records will be made in your behalf and the report sent you.

The data which follow were obtained from the papers  on file in pension claim S. 32467, based upon the service of Allen Ramsey in the War of the Revolution.  This is the record of the only Allen Ramsey (Ramsay) that is found on file in the Revolutionary War records of this office.

Allen Ramsey was born June 12, 1764 in Harford County, Marylnd, the names of his parents not given,.  his mother mover from Maryland to Washington County, pennsylvania, date not shown.

While residing in Washington County Pennsylvania, Allen Ramsey enlisted July 1, 1780 and served two months as a private in Captain William Bruce's
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Company, Colonel Gabriel Cox's regiment.  He enlisted June 1, 1781 and served three months in Captain Wall's Company.  He served two months in 1782 in  Captain Murry or Mum's company, Colonel Crawford's regiment and was in the battle of Sandusky against the British and Indians.  All of his service was with the Pennsylvania troops.

The soldier, Allen Ramsey, remained in Washington County Pennsylvania until in 1784, when he moved to Post Vincent (later Vincennes), Indiana.  He was taken prisoner in 1792 by the Poittawattamie Indians, much of his property was destroyed, he did not state how long he was held prisoner.

He was allowed pension on his application executed December 3, 1833, then a resident of Wabash County, Illinois, where he had lived fourteen years.

It is not stated that Allen Ramsey was ever married.  

Very truly yours,


A. D. HILLER
Executive Assistant to the  Administrator
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32467

[illegible] INVALID.

File No.   32,467

Allen Ramsay

[Line illegible]

Act:  June 7, 32"

Index: - Vol. [illegible] , Page  333

{Arrangement of 1870}
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1916.Nov.14. [illegible] to Mrs. H. J. Walker  [illegible]
1923 Jan 11. Tombstone data to D. M. Gen. Office [illegible]
1926 Jan 26 - Hist to Hon. Arthur H. Greenwood [illegible]
1926 Sept 23. photos mailed to L. W. Jackman, Werker Bldg. 418-1-2. Main St. Vincennes Ind. (see receipt for pay in John Wood, Md. W 2311-
1933 - Aug 24 - hist - to B. J. Walter [illegible]
1933 - Nov. 14   "        "   Mrs. J Allen [illegible]
1935 - April 23   "        "  Allen R. Johnson [illegible]
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
Second Comptroller's Office,
August 5th, 1839. 

Sir:

Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838 entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States", Allen Ramsay, a Pensioner on the Roll of the Illinois Agency at the rate of Twenty three Dollars and thirty three cents per annum, under the law of the 7th June 1832 has been paid at this Department, from the 4th of March 1837, to the 4th Sept., 1837.

Respectfully yours, 

Albion K. Parris
Comptroller

To the Commissioner of Pensions, 
Present.
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[Faint handwritten notes are illegible at top of page]

708 West 6th St. - Los Angeles, California.
Oct - 17, 1916

My Dear Sir:

Will you kindly give me the record of service of one Allen Ramsey who was in the Rev war, I think he was from Penna.?

I thank you for the courtesy.

Truly yours, 

Mrs. H. J. Walker

[A written signature illegible]
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Walker
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{Date stamp]
RECORD
OCT 25 1916
DIVISION
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Salt Lake City, Utah, Oct 19, 1933
To the Pension bureau, Washington D.C.

Gentlemen:-

I am writing to know if you have record of a Joshua Thompson, a soldier of the Am. Rev. receiving or applying for a pension, or any record of himself or wife.  He was of Washington County Pa.  i would also like to get the record of my great grandfather Allen Ramsey.  Joshua Thompson married his mother 
 we have never been able to find her name, even her given name.  Can you help me on this problem?

Most sincerely,

[Signature] Mrs. W. J. Allen

[Address stamp]
Ms. W. J. Allen
3434 So. 7th E.
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AMERICAL LEGION, Wabash Post No. 423
MT. CARMEL, ILLINOIS
[American Legion Logo]

B. J.  WALTER
Dept. of Military Records
And Graves Registration


August 16, 1933.

The Veterans Administration
Bureau of Pensions,
Washington, D. C.

Dear Sir:

Please furnish  pension record of Allen Ramsey, who served in the Pennsylvania Militia, during the Revolutionary War and who received pension while a resident of the State of Illinois.

Very truly yours,

B. J. Walter,
Dept. of Military Records
and Graves Registration,
American Legion,
Wabash Post #493.


BJW-MBD


[Round Date Stamp]
RECEIVED
AUG 18 1933
MAIL SUB-DIV.
VETS. ADM  64
[ILLEGIBLE]
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SUBMIT IN DUPLICATE      1-681  
PHONE BRANCH 476

All inquiries regarding this job should refer to Requisition No. 9478
Requisition for Duplicating, Addressograph Photostat, and Blue Print Work.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
WASHINGTON
CHIEF, Division of Publications
Room G 127
Sept 18, 1926.192
Please furnish work specified below.
Bureau ordering - Pension
Deliver to Room No.  - 5033

(ALL COPY FOR DUPLICATING WORK SHOULD BE PLAIN AND WRITTEN IN ELITE TYPE. EXACTLY LINE FOR LINE AS IT IS TO APPEAR ON FINISHED JOB.)

Title and description of job.  Photostat copies of 3 pages from the Revolutionary War pension claim of Allen Ramacy, S. 32467,
No. of copies  3  Shall form be kept standing? No
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NOTE:  No order made "SPECIAL" unless statement showing necessity is written below and approved by  Chief Clerk of Bureau ordering
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RECEIVED
SEP 20 1926
  
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ARTHUR H. GREENWOOD
2D DIST. INDIANA
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HOME ADDRESS:
WASHINGTON, INDIANA
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JAMES H. USREY
   SECRETARY

[Center]
CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
WASHINGTON, D.C.

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COMMITTEES:
CENSUS
EXPENDITURES IN THE
     WAR DEPARTMENT
INVALID PENSIONS
MINES AND MINING

January 23, 1926.

Commissioner of Pensions.
Pensions Bureau.
Washington, D.C.

Dear Sir:  

     I am advised that Allen Ransey drew a pension from the Government as a Private in Captain Thomas Parkinson's Company of the 5th Batalion of Washington County Militia, commanded by Colonel Thomas Crook.  My informant does not giev the name of the state, but he probably served either in Indiana or Pennsylvania.  If you can find this file I would like to have the historical summary of the papers filed in the case.  

Thanking you for your early reply, I am,

                    Very truly yours,

[Signature] Arthur H. Greenwood
           Arthur H. Greenwood, M. C. 

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  PENSION
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U.  26  S.
   1926
  OFFICE
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CONGRESSIONAL

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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
BUREAU OF PENSIONS
RECORD DIVISION

Briefed by  WB
  .......Orig. ........
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Claimant .............
Soldier  Allen Ramsey
Service .........................
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No...............claim, Service record..........,192
  .........................., Clerk.
No. claim, Alph'b record 1 -- 26  , 1926
   [written in - Can't Identify]
  .........................WB, Clerk.

REMARKS:  No Ind. War, Mexican or OW. 
JHB
1/26/26
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D. C. Cook
Chief, Division


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A. R. Johnson               [Round Date Stamp]
P. O. Box 82                       RECEIVED
PALESTINE, TEXAS            APR 5 1935
                                   [Rest of Stamp Illegible
                                       A[pril 3, 1935 hand
                                         written across it]
U. S. Veterans Adm.
   Washington, D.C.

Gentlemen:
     I am seeking information about the military records of two soldiers off the American Revolution, supposed to have enlisted from the State of Pennsylvania, might be from Allegheny, Crawford, Cumberland, or Washington Counties,  viz
 James Johnson (or Johnston)
Allen Ramsey (might be a slight difference in spelling either first or last name) 

    Both of the men moved to what is now Knox County, Indiana, after the war, or about 1784.  

   I wrote to the War Dept., but they referred me to the USVA.   

   Anything you can do for me will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

                                Very truly
             
                               Allen Ramsey Johnson
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REVOLUTIONARY WAR RECORDS SECTION.
3-525
S.32467
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C. , ,..................................., 19 ....
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   In reply to your request of ...................., received ............................. for a statement of the military history of ............................... a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this bureau.

DATE OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT.
[Too faint to read]
LENGTH OF SERVICE.
[Too faint to read.]
RANK. - Pvt.
OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED.  
CAPTAIN. 
John Wall
[2 other names are too faint to read]
COLONEL
Crawford
STATE - Pa
Battles engaged in, Sandusky
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Washington County, Pa
Date of application for pension, [illegible]
Residence at date of application, [illegible]
Age at date of application, [whole line is too faint]
Remarks: [Too faint to read.}

Respectfully,

[  illegible]

Commissioner.
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August 24, 1933
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Allen Ramsey-8.32467
BA-J/AWF

Mr. B. J. Walter
American Legion, Wabash Post #423
Mt. Carmel, Illinois

Dear Sir:  

     Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Allen Ramsey. 

     The data furnished herein were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, 8.32467, based upon the Revolutionary War service of Allen Ramsey.

     He was born June 12, 1784 in Harford County, Maryland, the names of his parents were not given.  His mother moved from Maryland to Washington County,  Pennsylvania.

     While residing in Washington County, Pennsylvania, Allen Ramsey served as a private with his Pennsylvania troops as follows-- from July 1, 1780, two months in Captain William Bruce's company, Colonel Gabriel Cox's regiment; from June 1, 1781, three months in Captain John Wall's company; in 1783, two months in Captain Murry or Mum's company, Colonel Crawford's regiment and was in the battle of Sandusky against the British and Indians.

     He remained in Washington County, Pennsylvania until in 1784, when he moved to Post Vincent (later Vincennes), Indiana.  He was taken prisoner in 1792, by the Pottawattamie Indians and much of his property was destroyed, he did not state how long he was held a prisoner.

     The soldier, Allen Ramsey, was allowed pension on his application executed December 3, 1833, then a
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resident of Wabash County, Illinois, where he had lived fourteen years.

     It is not stated that the soldier, Allen Ramsey, was married.

Very truly yours

A. D. Hiller
Assistant to Administrator
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Rev. and 1812
War Section.

January 26, 1926.

Honorable Arthur H. Greenwood
House of Representatives.

My dear Mr. Greenwood:

     In response to your letter of the twenty-third instant, I have the honor to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.32467, it appears that Allen Ramsey was born June 12, 1764 in Harford County, Maryland.

     While residing in Washington County, Pennsylvania, he served as a private in the Pennsylvania Troops, as follows--

     From July 1, 1780, two months in Captain William Bruce's Company, Colonel Gabriel Cox's Regiment.
     From June 1, 1781, three months in Captain John Wall's Company.
     In 1882, two months in Captain Murry's [or Mum written in] Company.
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Colonel Crawford's Regiment, and was in the battle at Sandusky against the British and Indians.

     He was allowed pension on his application executed December 3, 1833, while a resident of Wabash County, Illinois.

     He also stated that in 1784, he moved to Post Vincent (later called Vincennes), Indiana, and in 1792 he was taken prisoner by the Pottawattamie Indians, but does not mention how long he was held a prisoner.

     There is no data on file as to his family.  

     The above noted Allen Ramsey (Ramsay) is the only soldier of that name found on the [Revolutionary and War of 1812 is crossed out]  records of this Bureau (all records searched prior to Civil War) who was from Pennsylvania and Indiana.

Very truly yours,

Winfield Scott
 Commissioner.

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Allen Ramsey-S.32467
BA-J/AWF

Mrs. W. J. Allen
3434 South 7th Street, East
Salt Lake City, Utah

Dear Madam:

     Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to Joshue Thompson and Allen Ramsey, soldiers of the War of the Revolution and both from Washington County, Pennsylvania.

Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims made to the United States for pension and bounty land based upon military service of soldiers in that war.  A search of the records fails to show such claims on file on account of the services of a Joshua Thompson, who served in the Pennsylvania troops. 

It is suggested that as a possible means of securing information relative to the military records of soldiers of the Revolution, you should apply to The Adjutant General, War Department, Washington, D. C.

The data given below were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S.32467, based upon the Revolutionary War service of Allen Ramsey.

     He was born June 12th 1764 in Harford County, Maryland, the names of his parents not given.  his  mother moved from Maryland to Washington County, Pennsylvania.

     While residing in Washington County, Pennsylvania, Allen Ramsey enlisted July 1, 1780 and served as a private two months in Captain William Bruce's
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company, Colonel Gabriel Cox's regiment; this service was as substitute for Joshua Thompson.  Allen Ramsey enlisted, June 1, 1781 and served three months in Captain Wall's company.  He served in 1782, two months in Captain Murry or Mum's company, Colonel Crawford's regiment, and was in the battle of Sandusky against the British and Indians.  All of his service was in the Pennsylvania troops.  

     Thereafter, Allen Ramsey, remained in Washington County, Pennsylvania until in 1784, when he moved to Post Vincent (later Vincennes), Indiana.  He was taken prisoner in 1792 by the Pottawattanie Indians, much of his property was destroyed, he did not state h ow long he was held a prisoner.

     Allen Ramsey was allowed pension on his application executed, December 3, 1833, then a resident of Wabash County, Illinois, where he had lived fourteen years.

     It is not stated that the soldier, Allen Ramsey ever married.  

Very truly yours

A. D. HILLER
Assistant to Administrator