Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 7889, for John Dorman Palmateer, New York
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(3--1776)
Palmateer, John Dorman

SERVICE New York
NUMBER  R. 7889
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CONTENTS [blank]
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30.638
John D. Palmateer

[5 WORDS UNCLEAR]

Suspended for evidence
from Sec. of State of N.
York

David Wooley Esqr
New Paltz
New York
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Return this

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office

Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has
been examined, and the papers are herewith returned.  The following is a statement of
your case in a tabular form.  On comparing these papers with the following rules and
the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed,
before a pension can be allowed.  The notes and the regulations will shew what is
necessary to be done.  Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed,
you will find marked in the margins with a brace, (thus:  } ).  You will, when
you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and
you will, by compling with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your
claim.
_____________________________________________________________________________________
A STATEMENT, shewing the Service of John D. Palmateer
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[Colum headings]  Period when the service was rendered./ Duration of the claimant's
service. Years. Months. Days./ Rank of the claimant./ Names and rank of the Field officers
under whom he served./ Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service./
Proof by which the declaration is supported.
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Enlisted 1776, 6 Months, Private, Boatman, Lieut Woodward
1777, 9 Months, Private, Boatman, Capt. Wamp
1779, 9 Months, Private, Cap. Simonds

I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
JAMES L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

+ An affidavit of Wm Bartly
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REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.

    The following regulations have been adopted:
    This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army,
and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all
persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who
were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to
Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c.  Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are
also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged
in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
    Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
    1.  The Regular Troops.
    2.  The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.
    3.  Persons employed in the Naval Service.
    4.  Indian Spies.
    As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming
the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, mucicians or privates, will, in the first
instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of
Record of the County where such applicant resides.  And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is
considered a Court of Record.

DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th June, 1832.

State, Territory, or District of  [BLANK] )
County of [BLANK]                               )   ss.
    On this [BLANK] day of [BLANK] personally appeared (a) before [BLANK]
A.B. a resident (b) of [BLANK] in the county of [BLANK] and State, Territory or District
of [BLANK] aged (c) [BLANK] years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the
following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed
June 7th, 1832.  That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) [BLANK], with [BLANK] and
served in the [BLANK] (e) regiment of the [BLANK] line, under the following named officers:

[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served
under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the
town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged,
and the country through which he marched.  --> This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons
who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]

    He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he
declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of
the Agency in the State of [BLANK]
    Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
    And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary
soldier, and served as he states.
    I [BLANK] of the Court of [BLANK]
do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of
the application of [BLANK] for a pension.
    In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this
[BLANK] day of [BLANK] &c.
    If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be
found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
    Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers, or Militia,
except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and
subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
    (k)  We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the [BLANK] and C. D. residing in (the same)
hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with [BLANK], who has
subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be [BLANK]
years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier
of the Revolution, and that we concur in the opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
    And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after
putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary
Soldier, and served as he states.  And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the [BLANK]
and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the [BLANK]
and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
    I, [BLANK] Clerk of the Court of [BLANK] do hereby certify that the foregoing
contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of [BLANK]
for a pension.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal
of office, this [BLANK] day of [BLANK] &c.

    Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power.  This is the original discharge or commission;
but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if
possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services
of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light
upon the transaction.
    If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will
also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful
in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

[HANDWRITTEN NOTE AT BOTTOM OF TYPED PAGE]  
Proof that Lieut Woodward, Capt. Wamp & Capt. Simons
[ILLEGIBLE] at the period alleged may be obtained [WORD OFF THE PAGE]
the Secretary of the State of New York.
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alleged service, as they are known at the Department.  A very full account of the services of each person
will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case.  The facts stated will afford one of the principal
means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted;
and unless, therefore these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected.
All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and
there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his
case.
    The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of
service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State
troops of Virginia.
1.  Where and in what year were you born?
2.  Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?
3.  Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary
war, and where do you now live?
4.  How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute?
And if a substitute, for whom?
5.  State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such
Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
6.  To a Soldier.  Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and
what has become of it?
To an Officer.  Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what
has become of it?
7.  State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify
as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
    The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are
requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
    The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court,
without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons--one of whom should be
the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from
their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed
and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion.
If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character
and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
    The traditionary evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct
proof, except the declaration of the party.  And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the
inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
    Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before
required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper
county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties which the Court is herein requested to perform
and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
    Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record,
or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper
Clerk of the Court or County of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is
his genuine signature.
    No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before
the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the
declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure,
taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period
of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the
opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
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    [a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will
follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
    [b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides.  If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not
conforming to the rule.
    [c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
    [d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
    [e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the
claim cannot be had.  Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so
definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled.  In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the
loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason
of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his
recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:--For ___ year _____ months, and ___
days, I served as a _____.  For _____ months and ____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law
directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of pensioner and the length of his service.  The use of the phrase "about three or four months,"
is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable.  Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years
in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service.  This form of a declaration is
highly objectionable.  It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement;
the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent
authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil
pursuit.
    [f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
    [g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
    [h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.    
    [i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no
public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the
papers.

Mode of authenticating papers.
    In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains
the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must
pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.

Proof of Service.
    [j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses
who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well
as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged.  The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses,
and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
--> The notes from [a] and [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops.  The proof required by rule in
note [j] applies to continental troops only.
    [k] This traditionary evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
    [l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
    [m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
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State of New York   )
Ulster County           )   SS:

On this eleventh day of September 
A. D. 1832 personally appeared 
in open court, before the judges of the
Court of Common Pleas of said county now
sitting John Dorman Palmateer a resident of
the town of New Paltz in the county of Ulster &
state of New York aged seventy four or seventy
five years, who being first duly sworn according
to law, doth on his oath make the
following declaration, in order to obtain the
benefit of the act of congress passed June 7
1832.  That he entered the service of the United
States under the following named officers
and served as herein stated.  In the year 1775 or
1776 he enlisted & served the term of six months
[NOTE:  "6" IS ADDED TO THE MARGIN OF THE PRECEDING LINE]
under Lieutenant Solomon Woodard.  He was at
the city of Schenectady, where he listed, was principally
employed in traversing the country in scouting
parties going out as far as Fort Plank that
he next enlisted he thinks in the year 1777 under
the command of Capt. Minard Vamp & served a
term of nine months & was discharged on the first
day of January, was employed the principal part of
this term in transporting provisions & ammunition
from Schenectady to Fort Stanwix (now same)
[NOTE:  "9" IS ADDED TO THE MARGIN OF THE PRECEDING LINE]
Served the next three ensuing months under Capt.
Reuben Simonds at Saratoga Lake.  In the ensuing
[NOTE:  "= 3 - 1" IS ADDED TO THE MARGIN OF THE PRECEDING LINE,
WITH "REUBEN SIMONDS" UNDERLINED]
spring enlisted again under Capt. Simonds
& served [ILLEGIBLE] months & was discharged on the first
[NOTE:  "9" IS ADDED TO THE MARGIN OF THE PRECEDING LINE]
day of January he thinks 1779.  This winter & the following
summer was stationed at Johnstown, where
they were commanded in the winter by militia officers,
who took turns in commanding, in the
spring Capt. Sacket from Fishkill took command,
this year he was repeatedly out on scouting
parties, reconnoitering & spying out the indians
where there he saw William Lam, who was
also in the United States service, & left Johnstown
on Genl. Sullivans expedition against the
indians.  Said Lam now resides in New Paltz
in said county of Ulster.  His affidavit is here unto
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annexed.  That while lying in the fort at Johnstown
it was attacked by the British & indians, who
were repulsed and driven off after several
hours hard fighting.  Towards the last of the
war he removed down to a place about
six miles from Albany for one season
while there he was called out two nights
in a week to guard the country, Nicholas
Staughts was his captain and John Staughts
his lieutenant.  That he was born at
Wappingers Creek in Dutchess County, in the
year 1757 or 58, has no record of his age.
He lived at Johnstown when he first entered the
services of the United States, & latter part of
war moved below Albany, from then to
Poughkeepsie in Dutchess County & after a few
years moved to New Paltz, Ulster County where
he has ever since lived & now lives.  That he
never received a written discharge.  That
David Wolley Esqr was acquainted with him.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a
pension or annuity except the present & declares
that his name is not on the pension roll of the
agency of any state.

Residing in the town of New Paltz in Ulster County
hereby certify that we are well acquainted with
John Dorman Palmateer who has subscribed and
sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him
to be seventy five years of age; that he is reputed
& believed, in the neighborhood where he resides
to have been a soldier in the revolution and
that we concur in that opinion.
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of William Lane, nor does he know of any other person
who was with him in said service--
He hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to a pension
or annuity except the present & declares that his
name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any
other state.
Sworn to and subscribed the
day & year aforesaid.   John Dorman his X mark Palmateer

A D Soper First Judge
John Jansen           )
Abm A. Deyo         )  Judges
A G Hardenbergh  )

Deponent in addition to the regular officers above
named recollects to have seen General Schuyler,
General Henry Gland, Colonel Harper, Major
Newkirk.  He cannot state any other general
circumstances of his service than as above set forth
in this declaration.  Deponent is not particularly
acquainted with any Clergyman in his neighborhood
who he is able to bring to court to certify
for him, but he is well known to and acquainted
with David Wolley Esqr one of the Justices
of the Peace of the said town of New Paltz
and to Josiah Dubois and Abraham Palmateer, residing
in the neighborhood of this deponent, and
with Jonathan Sluyter one of the Justices of the Peace
in and for the said co., who can testify to his character
for veracity, and their belief of his services.  Deponent has no
other direct proof of his services other than the affidavits
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WE, David Woolley & Abraham Palmateer, residing in the town of
New Paltz in the County of Ulster and State of
New-York, and Jonathan Sluyter of the town of Esopus in said county
hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with John Dorman Palmateer
who has subscribed and sworn
to the foregoing declaration; that we believe him to be seventy five
years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood
where he resides, to have been a Soldier of the Revolution,
and that we concur in that opinion.
David Wolley Esqr
Jonathan Sluyter
Abraham his X mark Palmateer

Sworn and Subscribed,          )
the day and year aforesaid,   )
A D Soper First Judge
John Jansen          )
Abm A Deyo         )  Judges
A G Hardenbergh  )

CERTIFICATE OF THE COURT.
The Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Ulster in the State of New-
York, sitting this twelfth day of September in the year 1832
at the court-house in Kingston in said County,
do hereby declare their opinion, after investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories
prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as
he states.  And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that [blotched out) 
and Abraham Palmateer who has signed the preceding certificate, ["is a clergyman" lined out] are residents in the
town of New Paltz in the County aforesaid, and that ["Josiah Dubois" lined out]
Jonathan Sluyter who has also signed the same, is a resident in the ["same" lined out]  town of Esopus in said
county, are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit.--
A D Soper First Judge
John Jansen          )
Abm A Deyo         ) Judges
A G Hardenbergh )

I, Jacob Snyder, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, in and for the
County of Ulster in the State of New-York, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains
the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of John Dorman
Palmateer for a Pension.
   IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this twelfth
day of September 1832
Jacob Snyder

[Ribbon and seal]
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State of New York     )
Ulster County            )   SS
Personally appeared before the undersigned First Judge
of Ulster County Courts John Dorman Palmateer who being duly sworn, saith
that reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he can
not swear positively as to the precise length of his service, nor to the
exact names and rank of all the officers under whom he served
but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than
the periods mentioned below at all times as a private soldier

1st in the spring of the year 1775, he enlisted under Lieutenant Woodard
at Schenectady for the term of six months, and was in actual
service for the space of six months and two weeks.  At that time
Lieutenant Woodard was the next year promoted to the rank of
Captain, and killed by the indians at Little Falls & during
this service Col. Harper or Hopper was the commander.  From
Schenectady we went to Johnstown, at which placed he was stationed,
and from whence he was frequently out on scouting parties
guarding the frontiers against the indians--this deponent can
not recollect all the officers who commanded him, they were
mostly strangers, from a distance, and he does not remember their
names, but he is certain as to term of service performed.

2nd - In the spring of 1776 he enlisted under Lieutenant Myndert Wemp
or Wemple, to serve the term of nine months, at Schenectady, and
served the whole of said term of nine months, during this term this
deponent was under arms every day, and when not stationed at Schenectady
he was out on scouts, and guarding the shores of the Mohawk
River, while the boatmen were carrying provisions and ammunition
to Fort Stanwix--This deponent and the men with him, traversed the shores
or banks of the River, under arms, and the command of the officers or
sergeant,--during this time of service he thinks Lieutenant Wemple
was appointed Captain--Col Wemp, or Wemple was our commander,
one of the Van Patter's was one of our company officers, at Schenectady,
and Cols. Willett and Gansevort, commanded at Fort Stanwix.
He was discharged on New Years day at Schenectady by Captain
Wemp or Wemple--

3d  The next three months during the winter of 1777 he served under
Captain Simons, at Saratoga Lake, he enlisted for that term, and
was engaged in getting out timber, under the immediate direction
of General Schuyler.  The timber was to be taken to next point, and
chained together, in a body across the river so as to prevent the
British shipping from coming up.--There were three companies
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this service, but he did not do regular military services, as
he had done before, in the above mentioned services.--

4th  In the spring of 1777 he again enlisted to serve nine months
under Captain Myndert Wemp. or Wemple, and was engaged
in all respects, during this term in the performance of the like
services as during the preceding nine months--and this deponent
cannot recollect any additional facts applicable to this service with
sufficient certainty to state them.--

5th In the year 1778 he served the term of six months, and was stationed
at Johnstown, during this service the British and Indians burnt Caughawaga,
and afterwards attacked the Fort at Johnstown.  Deponent
was in the engagement,--during this term Major Newkirk commanded,
and different company officers, of whom he remembers Captains
Vrooman, Putnam and Sacket--

6th In the fall of the year 1778, he removed to near Schenectady
and resided there for several months, during this time he
was in no regular military services, although frequently out on
alarms from one to five days at a time.

7th In the year 1779, he removed to a place about six miles
below Albany, and resided there until the close of the
war--during this time he belonged to the Militia, under Captain
Starts, and Lieutenant Staats, and done no other services than
to take his time in guarding the highways, and other places, mostly
during the night, taking up and examining strangers and
disaffected persons.--Once during the time he was out for three
weeks on an expedition to Lake George, under Genl Schuyler, and
one other time for three days on an alarm.--
and this deponent further says that during the 1st, 2, 4th and 5th
terms of service above mentioned, he was engaged in no other
business than in the service of his country, as a soldier.--
Subscribed & sworn July 17th 1834
before me
John Dorman his X mark Palmateer
A D Soper First Judge

I certify that I have known the above named John Dorman Palmateer
for several years past, that he is reputed to be a
man of good character for veracity, and entitled to credit
as a witness.  --  A D Soper
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State of New York   )
Ulster County          )  SS

I Jacob Snyder Clerk of the County of
Ulster and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County
do hereby certify that Abraham D. Soper Esquire was on the
day of the date of the annexed affidavit First Judge of
Ulster County and further that I am well acquainted
with the hand writing of said Judge and verily believe
the signatures of said Judge to the annexed affidavit
and certificate to be genuine---
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed
my name and affixed the seal of said Court
and County this twenty first day of July 1834.
Jacob Snyder Clerk
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[Lined through "Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 8, 1878."]

7889
P.O. John D. Palmateer
Service: [BLANK]
Enlisted:  Rejected   ,18
Discharged:  Rejected  ,18
Application filed:  [BLANK]    ,18
Alleges:  [BLANK]
Re-enlisted:  [BLANK]
Attorney: [BLANK]
P.O. [BLANK]
[BLANK] Recognized.    [BLANK] Contract.
[BLANK] Cert. of Dis.  Searched for [BLANK]  ,18
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30638
New York
John D. Palmateer
Suspended
Sent to D Wooley 26 March [ILLEGIBLE]
Sent to Hon. N. Sickles - [Illegible] 5, 1836

7889

This man is dead - so says
Wm. David Woolly
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State of New York   )
Ulster County  SS    )
William Bartley being duly sworn saith he was
born in Poughkeepsie Dutchess County and State
of New York, on the nineteenth day of January one thousand seven
hundred and sixty three and before the Revolutionary war with great
Britain.  This deponent saith that he moved with his Father Thomas
Bartley, and John Dorman Palmateer (whom this deponent has
been acquainted with ever since he can remember) to Schenectady.
And being now present before this deponent and John Dorman
Palmateer, this deponent testafieth that the said John Dorman
Palmateer entered the Revolutionary service in one thousand seven
hundred and seventy six under Lieutenant Solomon Woodard at
Schenectady for the term of six months, and served his full time
out, sometimes in transporting munitions up the Mohawk river
for the army, and at other times running scouts after the Indians.
And that in one thousand seven hundred and seventy seven, the
aforesaid William Bartley testafieth that he was knowing to the aforesaid
John Dorman Palmateer's enlisting for nine months in
the army, and served the full time of nine months out under the
command of Captain Minard Vamp, also the said deponent saith
that he was knowing to the said John Dorman Palmateers serving
nine months in the army under the command of Captain
Reuben Simons, at, and about Schenectady, Schoharrie, and up
the Mohawk river and was in several skirmishes against the
British and Indians.  The aforesaid deponent saith that he was
in company with John Dorman Palmateer in the army a great part
of the time and knows him to have served two full years, and
believes him to have served as much as three or four years in all,
and that his Father Thomas Bartley (who has been dead several years)
was with him also.  This deponent also saith that he was well
acquainted with General Schuyler, Captain Minard Vamp,
Captain Reuben Simons, Lieutenant Solomon Woodard,
Captain Sacket, Colonel Harper, and General NewKirk and many
other offiers belonging to the northern army of the state of New York.

Subscribed and sworn to this 15th day of November 1899
before me David Wolley Justice of the Peace
William his X mark Bartley

State of New York    )
Ulster County   SS    )
I certify hereby that the above named
William Bartley this day personally appeared before me and
duly sworn and affixed his mark to the above affidavit
and I further certify that I am acquainted with the
said William Bartley that he is a man of good character
for truth and veracity and entitled to full credit as a witness.
Dated November 15 A.D. 1833.  David Wolley [ILLEGIBLE]
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Ulster County SS
I Jacob Snyder Clerk of the County of Ulster and Clerk of
the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Ulster do hereby certify
that David Wolley was on the day of the date of the within affidavit
a Justice of the peace in and for the County of Ulster duly authorized
to take affidavits &c. and that I am well acquainted with the
hand writing of said Justice and verily believe the signatures
of said Justice to the within Affidavit and certificate to be genuine.
Witness my hand and the seal of said County and Court this
fourth day of February 1834.   Jacob Snyder
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State of New York   )
Ulster County          ) SS

William Palmateer of Poughkeepsie Dutchess County
personally appeared before me the undersigned and being
duly sworn says he is in the sixty six year of his age was
borne in the town and county aforesaid in the year
1768 and is well acquainted with John Dorman Palmateer
who is now present before this deponent and well known
to him was with him in the Revolutionary war engaged
against the British and Indians at and about Schenectady
Schoharry Fort Stanwicks and up the Mohawk River
was with him in seven all skirmishes in the forts and
other places with the British and Indians and well
knows of his serving more than two full years and
believes it to have been more than three or four years in
the whole.  Was well acquainted with nearly all of
the officers in the Northern army unit Capt. Sacket,
Minard Vamp, Reuben Simons, Lieut Woodard,
Major Newkirk, General Schuyler and many others
of the New York [ILLEGIBLE] and militia officers and well
knows said John Dorman Palmateer to have been a good
faithful and resolute soldier to [ILLEGIBLE]
[ILLEGIBLE] in the Revolution War with Great Britain for
more than two years.    William his X mark Palmateer
Subscribed and sworn this 15 day of
January A.D. 1834 before me David Wolley Justice of the Peace

State of New York   )
Ulster County          ) SS
I hereby certify that the above named William Palmateer this
day personally appeared before me and being duly sworn
and affixed his mark to the above affadavit and I do
further certify that I am acquainted with the said
William Palmateer that he is a man of good character
for truth and veracity and entitled to full credit as a
witness.  Dated this 15th day of January A.D. 1834
Daid Wolley Justice of the Peace
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Ulster County SS
I Jacob Snyder Clerk of the County of Ulster and Clerk of the Court of
Common Pleas of the County of Ulster do hereby certify that David Wolley
Esquire was on the day of the date of the within affidavit a Justice of the
Peace in and for the County of Ulster duly authorized to take affidavits &c.
and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice
and verily believe the signatures of said Justice to the within affidavit
and certificate to be gneuine.--
Witness my hand and the seal of said County and Court this
fourth day of February 1834.
Jacob Snyder

30.638

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David Wooley
New Paltz Landing
New York
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State of New York    )
Ulster County           )  SS
William Lane of the town of New Paltz and County aforesaid being
duly sworn says that he is in the seventy fifth
year of his age and now a Revolution pensioner.
Was born in the town of Poughkeepsie in this County
the day of October 1757 that he enlisted in the American
Revolution Service against the British and Indians in
the year 1776 for four years that he now resides in the
town of New Paltz County of Ulster aforesaid and has
been a resident of said County since the Revolution service
and is well acquainted with John Dorman Palmateer
a resident of New Paltz in said county &c. Revolution
soldier now in the presence of this deponent well known
to him now as in the Revolution service was with
this deponent five months--seven general Continental Troops
at and about Johnstown and Schoharie under command
of Capt. Sacket of Fishkill in the year 1778 or 79 and
furthermore this deponent believes him to have served
much longer than he the said deponent then mentioned
with a division of the troops to Easton in Pennsylvania
and left the said John Dorman Palmateer at Johnstown
in the fort and furthermore this deponent
knows him to have been a faithful and resolute witness
and of as good moral character to the present time.
Wm Lane
Subscribed and sworn
this 10th day of September 1832
Before me David Wolley, Justice of the Peace

State of New York    )
Ulster County           )   SS     Wm Lane
I hereby certify that the above William
Lane this day personally appeared before me
and duly sworn and subscribed the above affidavit and I do further certify
that I am personally acquainted with the said William Lane that he
is a man of good character as [ILLEGIBLE] truth and veracity and entitled to full
credit as a witness.
Dated September 10th A.D. 1832 David Wolley Justice of the Peace
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STATE OF NEW-YORK,             )
Ulster County Clerk's Office,    )  ss.
I Jacob Snyder, Clerk of the County of Ulster, and
Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County, Do hereby certify,
that David Wolley Esquire, was on the day of the
date of the Certificate to the annexed affidavit, a Justice of the Peace in and for the
said County of Ulster, duly authorised to take affidavits, &c.; and further that I am
well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe the
signature "David Wolley" suscribed to the
Certificate of the said annexed Affidavit to be genuine.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the Seal of the said Court
and County, this twelfth day of September 1832.  Jacob Snyder
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John D. Palmateer
N.Y.

New Paltz Landing
March 20
Mar 26 [written vertically]

Free

J.L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington
City
Page 22

New Paltz Ulster County
March the 8 1875

Sir
I now write some pensioners and enclose your answer
desirous to hear what is done or what will be done with
the application proof and papers of John Dorman Palmateer
as a revolution pensioner they have been [ILLEGIBLE]
some time in your office we have produced what proof we
know of at present on all has been required of us by
letter as we understand them we wish to know what will
be done with the claim for what is to be done for him
if anything must be done soon he is old and very
much infirmed and very poor health and supported
principally by his neighbors in hopes of his getting his pension
so as to enable him to help him self for the future the character
of John Dorman Palmateer the claimant for truth and
veracity is good he is known as a sober honest industrious
man and has always been considered as such and having
been a good faithful and resolute soldier of the
revolution war.  I have been acquainted with him for
more than twenty years and find this to be his general
character and reputation we are very anxious to hear the
result.  In the first letter I received from you dated
August the 7 1834 stated the papers of the claimant John
D. Palmateer had been examined again and states he
served six months in 1775 under Lieut. Woodward, nine months
under Lieut. Wemple in 1776  and in 1777 under the same officers
and three months in the same year under Capt. Simons and
six months the next year under the same officer and in
1778 and in 1779 deponent terms of services.  It was stated there
was no proof of the above named officers having command
or commissioned at that time and it would be necessary to
provide the certificate of the secretary of the State of
New York showing that the above named officers
was duly commissioned to serve as he alleged and
the papers was placed on file.  The certificate of the
Secretary of the State of New York was produced and sent by letter but not
as soon as might have been on the account of not receiving your
letter and on the account of sickness in Albany
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Continued

The next letter I received the last of November
stating the certificate of the Secretary of State of
New York had been received respecting the appointment
of certain officers in the State and that the certificate
appeared in support of some claim for
a pension and wished me to state the name of
the claimant.  I perhaps might have neglected
to mention his name thinking it was so often
mentioned in the papers on file in your office.
I accordingly immediately wrote to you stating
his name John Dorman Palmateer the third
and last letter I received in January last
stating in answer to my letter that the papers
of John D. Palmateer was examined on the 7 August
last on objection to the admission of his
claim there states further proof was required
which had not been produced until the
requisiton is complied with and explanations
as to form puts off the claimants statements
are made no further examination of the case
need be expected.  This is the statement of your
last letter I have received I do not perhaps understand
the true meaning of it on what account
it is deferred on, whether on the account of
proof or irregularity in form I cannot understand,
we thought the proof now would be
satisfactory on the subject.  Sir we desire an answer
from you as soon as possible if it cannot pay
or if any thing more is wanting on the subject.
I am very respectfully your
Obedient Servant
David Wolley Esq.

Hon. J. L. Edwards
Commiss. of Pensions
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Note Sir by reason of old age and infirmity the
affiant cannot recollect but feel [ILLEGIBLE] especially
the affiants names in the army and being many
of them strangers to him and not living in that
section of the county after the war and not seeing any
of them after, they are all most forgotten by him
the applicant is very poor but an honest & good citizen.
If this is not sufficient or the papers satisfactory
you will be pleased to send me word soon as convenient.
Yours with the greatest respect D Wolley Esqr
New Paltz Landing
July the 21 1834
Mr. J. L. Edwards Commiss of Pensions
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Mar 5
Mr -- Particular
Attention
Mr. Lua

Hon. N. Sickles
HR

Hon. J. L. Edwards
Washington
DC
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Washington 4th March 1836
Hon. J. L. Edwards

Sir:
Mr. John D. Palmateer of Ulster County applied
some time since for a pension, and set forth in his
declaration the different terms of service performed by
him, and that they were performed under Lieut.
Woodward, Lieut Wimp, Captain Simonds and Lieut.
Staats.  The application was received at the department
and answer was sent to Mr. Palmateer that there was
no evidence in the department that the three (3 WORDS UNDERLINED] first
named officers had the command at any time during
the revolutionary was of 9 or 6 months men as stated
by Palmateer and that in order to establish the character of the service
performed by Palmateer it would be necessary for him
to procure the certificate of the Secretary of the State
of New York shewing that the officers under whom it
was performed were duly commissioned to serve as alleged
in Palmateer's application.

By a letter of 18th Nov 1836 
it appears that the required certificate was not at
the War Department.  Will you inform me what decision 
has been made in said Palmateers case.
Yours
Nicholas Sickles