Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 5286, John Guthrie, Va.
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(3-1776)
SERVICE                                 NUMBER
Va.             Guthrie, John        W.5286
                  or [Guthrie] John Pollard
                      Eliza
CONTENTS
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752
[V]irginia Richmond
Eliza Guthrie
widow of John Guthrie
Va
who served in the Revolutiona[ry]
war, as a Private
----
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of
80 Dollars 00
Cents per annum, to commence on
the 4th day of March, 1848.
----
Certificate of Pension issued the 
11th day of March 18[illegible]
and sent to
W. Helm Esq.
Present
----
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act
July 29, 1848, Page 124, Vol. A.

Date of 
death not
on AB
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No 872
Eliza Guthrie
wid of John
Va
Act 29th July 1848.
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1.
Declaration.
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 29th July, 1848.
State of Virginia, Fauquier County SS.
On this 29th day of 
1850 . personally appeared in open court Eliza Guthrie
a resident of the county and state aforementioned aged 70 who, being duly sworn,
according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration, in order 
to obtain the benefit of the provisions, made by the Act of Congress, passed 
the 29th of July, 1848, That she is the widow of John P. Guthrie, who was 
a private soldier of Infantry of the Virginia Continental [crossed out] State Line, and served 
as such more than three years during the War of the Revolution, she 
relies upon the record proof towit the settlement of his depreciation account here
with enclosed to sustain her allegation of his service.
She further declares that she was married to the said John 
Pollard Guthrie in Christ Church [crossed out] Alexandria, State of Virginia on the 
__ day of August A.D. one thousand seven hundred and nine
ty nine, that her said husband, the aforesaid John Pollard Guthrie 
was lost at sea he being then in command of a Brig in the Merchant Service 
caled The Rachell ... sometime about the last of the year 
1804, or during the year A.D. one thousand eight hundred and five. 
That she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service
but the marriage took place previous to the second day of January, eighteen
hundred, viz., at the time above stated. She further swears that 
she is now a widow, and that she has never before made any 
application for a pension.
Eliza Guthrie [signature]

Sworn to in open court this 30th day of November 1850 
Wm. Jennings, CC [signature]

I certify that I was a resident of Alexandria, Virginia 
from early in June 1799 until June 1726 and that I have 
a distinct recollection of the Marriage of Captain Jn. P. Guthrie 
with his present widow, Mrs. Elijah Guthrie having been Consummated 
in Alexandria sometime in the Summer of 1799 – my recollection is 
strong thereof by the incidents of the day – for instance – On the next 
day the house of the late Dan McLean who was the Bride's brother
-in-law and where the wedding was celebrated – was thrown open 
and a handsome Entertainment given to the friends and relations of 
the parties and the Citizens at large – a "Punch Drinking" 
as it was termed being the fashion of that Period – 
in the morning of same day a Salute was fired from one or more 
armed Vessels – and the Vessels in port had their Colors hoisted 
during the day in honor of the Occasion – Captain Guthrie being then 
in Command of an armed Merchant Vessel owned of
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2.

of Alexandria – And I saw him that day in the full dress 
of a Naval Officer.
On the 19th Day of December 1816 I married Mary Ann Guthrie
the Daughter of J. P. Guthrie & Eliza Guthrie and since that 
time the Family Bible of Captain Guthrie (and from which was 
cut yesterday the leaf to be exhibited as part of the testimony 
in procuring the Pension which Mrs. E. Guthrie is entitled to 
has been used by me as my family record – and from what 
I have seen and heard I am confident that the name of 
"John Pollard Guthrie" and the births of his two Daughters 
"Mary Ann and Eliza" was written on that paper by the 
said John Pollard Guthrie.

   Some years since when investigating the claim of Capt. Guthrie 
Deceased for the Land and arrearages of pay which his heirs might 
be entitled to for his service as a Revolutionary Soldier – I was 
informed by Mr. Wm. Wedderburn then a resident of Alex'a., now dead, 
that he was intimately acquainted with Capt. Guthrie in early and 
after life (proved by the facts as I have been informed that Mr. Wedderburn called 
his first and only child now Doctor Jno. Wedderburn of New Orleans for him) 
that he knows his going out when a very young man as a 
private Soldier and remembered his return after serving his full term 
and receiving an Honorable Discharge – that his elder and only 
Brother James Guthrie went out with him in the same Company - 
commanded by Capt.__ [illegible]. Mr. Wedderburn was ready at any 
time to testify to these facts – but finding from the public records 
at Richmond that JP Guthrie's Bounty land and pay had 
been rec'd by himself or some one representing him – I deemed 
any further steps unnecessary.
Given from under my hand at my residence 
in Fauquier County Virginia this 30th day of November 
one thousand eight hundred and fifty.
Jacob Davies Douglas [signature]

Sworn to in open court by Jacob D. Douglas this 
30th day of November 1850. 
Wm. H. Jennings, C.C.

"  October 2nd, 1804 Sailed this day the Brig Rachel, Capt.
Jno. Guthrie from Cowes England and a Market @ 10 o'clock
a.m. wind  [crossed through: light] NW., light "
Jacob Davies Douglas do hereby certify that the
above writing beginning with the word " October" and ending
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with "light," inclusive is truly copied from the late Danl.  McLean's Shipping Journal now in my possession,  I further certify that the John Guthrie therein named was the Husband of Mrs. Eliza Guthrie the applicant, above for a Pension on account of his Revolutionary Service and I further Certify that I have heard the aforesaid Dan McLean frequently state that the Said Captain Jno. Guthrie was lost at Sea on that voyage.  I married said Guthrie's Daughter in the year 1816, and have always heard from the family that Captain Guthrie was lost at Sea on that Voyage and I know the fact myself from hearsay from the time it happened.  I am the Executor of the late Daniel McLean and therefore have his journal and other papers in my posesion [sic].
Jacob Davies Douglas

Virginia,
Fauquier County to wit
I Hamden A White a Justice of the county aforesaid, hereby certify that Jacob D. Douglas, appeared before me and made oath to the truth of the foregoing certificate, signed by him.  I also certify that the alegations of said Douglas, are entitled to full credit.  Given under my hand & seal this 14th day of December 1850.  H. A. White J.P. {seal}
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Virginia:
At a county court held for Fauquier County on November 30th, 1850 
A declaration of Eliza Guthrie and an affidavit of Jacob D Douglas hereto attached were sworn to, in open court and the same is ordered to be certified. 

Teste
Wm H Jennings C.F.C.C.

State of Virginia Fauquier County to wit: 

I, William H Jennings, Clerk of the County Court of the County of State aforesaid, do hereby certify that the foregoing declaration of Eliza Guthrie and the affidavit of Jacob D Douglas thereto attached found on the first and second pages of this paper are the same which were sworn to as mentioned above and I do furthermore certify that Hamden A White, before whom for the preceding affidavit of Jacob D Douglas was sworn to, is an acting Justice of the Peace, in and for the County aforesaid duly commissioned and qualified and that the signature of said Justice, to the foregoing certificate of said Justices, is genuine. 

In testimony whereof, I do hereto subscribe my name and affix the seal of the said Court this December 14th, 1850 and in the 75th year of the Commonwealth.

William H Jennings C.C.
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Engraved for the Rev. T. BA[??]KES's Christian's Family Bible.
Plate I.
Mattw. II.Ver.7. Enquired of them, &c.
[engraving]
Herod consulting the Wise Men.

Plate II.
Mattw.II.Ver.11.Worshipped him, &c.
[engraving]
The Adoration of the Wise Men.
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Plate III.
Mattw. II.Ver.13. Arise and take, &c.
[engraving]
The Angel appearing to Joseph

Plate IV.
Mattw. II.Ver.14.took the young Child.
Joseph's flight into Egypt.

Carey s[?]

Published as the Set directs [?] Cooke No. 27 Paternoster Row.
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John Pollard Guthrie was born March 8th.

Eliza Guthrie was born January 16th, 1780.

Mary Ann Guthrie, daughter of John and Eliza Guthrie was born May 19th, 1800.

Eliza Guthrie daughter of John P and Eliza Guthrie was born June 30th 1802.

Lucretia Guthrie daughter of John and Eliza Guthrie was born January 11th, 1805.
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Wheeling March 16, 1837

Dear Sir, 

I received your letter of the 7th and am glad you were right in your correction of our family. You were right in your conjecture that I was a son of James Guthrie of King and Queen County who was a brother of John Guthrie. I cannot recollect my Uncle John Guthrie and was not apprised of his having a double name, though it is highly probable that he had, as his mother’s maiden name was Pollard from Gloucester County the old stock of which I believe are all deceased. I recollect hearing my father talk of his brother John being in the revolutionary war, which I suppose that there can be no doubt of after their return having served three years at North. My “said” Uncle, I think went to sea as a common sailor. I do not know what port he sailed from and being convinced of the advantages of knowing about navigation, he returned to my father’s and boarded there and leaned navigation under Mr. Dawson Cook in the neighborhood and have often heard my father and mother say. I have also often heard them talk of his going to Alexandria and sailing from there to a Colonel Hooe in Louisiana of a schooner, I think called the Welcome Return and of his marrying in Alexandria, but do not recollect of hearing the name of the lady he married. I recollect my father visiting Alexandria after my said uncle had married there and of hearing him tell of the house he had build and how comfortable he was fixed and that
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he made my uncle’s house his home, during his stay in Alexandria, which was probably several weeks and have also heard him speak of his wife and two daughters, more of which have I yet seen. I recollect of having my father say that his brother John came into Seven River; I think while he commanded the Welcome Return, and sent for him to come down into Gloucester County to see him, and of hearing him tell how well he was treated and of there being nine different kinds of liquor set on the table.
I have heard my father-in-law, John Stedman tell of his coming passage from the West Indies with Captain Willis who sailed in company with my Uncle John Guthrie and that they dined on board Captain Guthrie’s vessel at sea. Mr. Stedman was a connection of my father’s family and he knew my uncle John, as he also was raised in King & Queen County. I could relate many other little incidents that I have heard but they probably would have no bearing on the subject as is, but certainly my Uncle John, who served in the revolutionary war from King & Queen County and afterwards learned navigation in the neighborhood of my father’s under Dawson Cook, is the identical person who sailed for Colonel Hooe from Alexandria and that married and settled in Alexandria afterwards. I should suppose that your statement of the above facts as you certainly believe them as much as I do, together with the family record of the marriage of my uncle would be sufficient to induce a magistrate or court of record to certify that your Mother-in-law was the identical person set forth in the
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declaration, the magistrate here for the county and alderman of the city, certify to the identity of a person under similar circumstances, who are seeking after county land claims. I undertook to seek after a claim of my mother-in-law’s and produced a family record that had been taken from the original one, and set in a frame, which had the marriage of W. Stedman to my mother-in-law and stated that I knew they live as man and wife for at least 8 years and the magistrate did not hesitate to certify that she was the identical person set forth in the declaration, and I have seen it done in several other cases, in fact, in every case where the alderman can be satisfied, and believes there is no fraud contemplated, otherwise it would be impossible to prove many just claims for service in the last war with Great Britain, and impossible to prove any for services in the revolutionary war, for they are all gone. Some years ago when I was seeking after some bounty and claims of my father’s several uncles, I saw the name of my Uncle John Guthrie on the books at Richmond, but knowing that he left children, I did not trouble myself about it, but believe that the warrant was never located, and that there is 100 acres of land coming for his services, either to his heirs or myself. The circumstances are these, I recollect of my father’s having two land warrants, which he could get nothing for, and he sent them to Richmond and Washington, by persons that were going there, to inquire if there could be any thing got for them, and the last I heard of them, he sent them by Captain Rogers, the sheriff of Gloucester by who was going to Richmond. Captain Rogers moved to Alabama and died and the warrants were
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not found at my father’s death. My father had long before transferred his warrant for 200 acres and it had been located, therefore I think that one of the warrants was that of my Uncle John, who gave it to my father at the time he was studying navigation, and the other was issued to my father as the representative of William Rigan, a half-brother, who died soon after his return from the war. 
Upon investigation, I found that the warrant issued to my father as the representative of William Rigan had never been located, and after a good deal of trouble I got it renewed at Richmond, and succeeded in getting it filed for payment in the General Land Office at Washington, but the appropriation that had been made was exhausted, and ten years have elapsed without congress making any further appropriations. We were very much pleased with a visit from your son last night. He stayed an hour or two with us, and then left to enter the western stage. Please do make my best respects to Aunt Guthrie, your lady, and children, and Mrs. Dade, husband, and children and tell them that I feel a warm attachment to them though I never saw them and should I ever have business over the mountains that way, I should be delighted to call and see them and should be very glad to see any of them out here. 

With sentiments of respect, I am yours respectfully, Henry P. Guthrie
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Marriage Bond
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Know all men by these presents that we John Guthrie and Daniel McClain are held and firmly bound unto his Excellency James Wood Esq. Governor of Virginia and his successors for the use of the Commonwealth in the sum of one hundred and fifty Dollars current money, To which payment well and truly to be made we bind ourselves and each of us our and each of our heirs Executors and [?]: jointly and Severally firmly by these presents sealed with our own seals and dated the 21 day of August A.D. 1799.
The Condition of the above obligation is such that whereas there hath been this day issued from the Clerks office of Fairfax County a License for a Marriage intended to be had and solemnized between the above bound John Guthrie And Elizabeth Hutchenson, Now if {marked out, illegible] there should no lawful cause to obstruct the same, then the above obligation to be void else to remain in full force and virtue.
Jno. Guthrie {seal}
Dan McClain {seal}

Sealed and delivered
in pressence [sic] of
John Hooff

Virginia, Fairfax County Sct
I Spencer M Ball clerk of the County Court of Fairfax in the State aforesaid do hereby certify that the above is a true Copy of the Bond of John Guthrie for a marriage intended to be had and solemnized between him and Elizabeth Hutchenson now on file in my office, and I do further certify that I have examined the Returns of Ministers of marriages celebrated, and cannot find any return made of the marriage of the above parties.
Given under my hand and Seal of office this 16 day of Decr. 1850
S.M.Ball
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March 27, 1935

RA-J/EEL
John Pollard Guthrie W.5286

Mr. Wayne Guthrie
Pleasant Hill
Illinois

Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to John Guthrie, born in King & Queen County, Virginia in 1761,who served 3 years in the Virginia Troops in the Revolutionary War.
The data which follows was obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W.5286, based upon the military service of John Pollard Guthrie in that war.
John Pollard Guthrie was born March 8th, year not shown, in King & Queen County, Virginia. His father emigrated from Scotland and his mother was from Gloucester County, Virginia. Her maiden name was Pollard. The Christian names of the parents of John Pollard Guthrie are not shown.
John Pollard Guthrie enlisted and serviced three years a private in the Virigina Troops. The place of his enlistment, dates of service, and names of his officers are not shown.
After the Revolution, he studied navigation and went to sea. He was in command of the schooner, “Welcome Return,” the captain of the brig “Rachel,” an armed merchant vessel, owned by citizens of Alexandria, Virginia, in which city he made his home.
He married in August 1799, (the marriage bond is dated August 21, 1799, Eliza or Elisabeth Hutchenson, who was born January 16, 1780. They were married at the home of her brother-in-law, MR. Daniel McClean, in Alexandria. In the morning of the wedding day, the ships in port fired salutes and hoisted their colors in honor of Captain Guthrie’s wedding, and a large entertainment was given at Mr. McClean’s home to which all their friends and the citizens generally were invited.
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On October 2, 1804, the brig, “Rachel,” John Pollard Guthrie captain, sailed from Alexandria, Virginia, for Coes, England. The vessel was never heard from again and it was assumed that she was lost at sea with all on board.
Soldier’s widow, Eliza (as she was pensioned) was allowed pension on her applicated executed November 29, 1850, while residing in Fauquier County, Virginia.

The names of the following children of John Pollard Guthrie and his wife, Eliza, are shown.
Mary Ann Guthrie - Born May 12, 1800, in Alexandria. She married December 19,1816 Jacob D. Douglas, She and her husband were living in Fauquier County, Virginia in1850. He stated that he lived in Alexandria, Viriginia from June 4, 1799, to June 1826. They had children, names not given.
Eliza Guthrie – Born June 30, 1802, Died August 15, 1813
Lucretia Guthrie – Born January 11, 1805, in Alexandria. 
The soldier’s older and only brother, James Guthrie, served with him during the Revolutionary War and was afterward a resident of King & Queen County, Virginia. There is no claim for pension on file based upon the service of James Guthrie. James had a son. Henry P. Guthrie, who was living in Wheeling, Virginia (West Virginia) in 1851. Henry married a daughter of James Stedman, of King & Queen County, Virginia. John Stedman was a relative of the father of James and John Pollard Guthrie, degree of relationship not shown nor is the name of his daughter, who married Henry P. Guthrie given nor the name of Henry P. Guthrie’s mother. Wiliam Rigan was a half brother of James and John Pollard Guthrie. He was also a Revolutionary War soldier and died soon after his return from the war. There is no claim for pension on file based upon the service of this William Rigan or similar spelling.
There is no further family data.

Very truly yours,
A.D. Hiller
Executive Assistant to the Administrator
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JRW

Wid.5286,Rev.War.
October 29, 1904
Sir:
In reply to your inquiry, you are advised the Eliza, widow of John P. Guthrie, aged 70 years, residing in Fauquier County, Virginia, who applied for pension November 29, 1850. She stated that her said late husband served more than three years as a private in the Virginia Line, Revolutionary war. Date of enlistment and names of officers are not stated.
He married Eliza Hutchinson in August 1799, at Alexandria, Virginia, and was lost at sea in 1804 or 1805, while in command of the brig Rachel in the merchant service.
A paper purporting to be a certified copy from the Register of the Land of Office of Virginia is onfile in the case, dated May 31, 1783, showing that a land warrant for 100 acres was that day issued to John Guthrie as the proportion f private for three years’ service. The widow’s claim for pension was allowed at $80 per annum, commencing March 4,  1848. His name appears as John, John Pollard, and John P. Guthrie.

Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner
Mr. Edward Guthrie Spilman
Kingfisher, Oklahoma
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September 12, 1903

Mr. Alfred B. Herner
Army and Navy Club
Washington, DC

Sir:
In reply to your letter of inquiry of the 10th instant, you are informed that there is on file in the pension claim of Eliza, widow of John Guthrie, a soldier of the Revolutionary War, from Virginia, Certificate No. 752, a paper which, from its appearance, may be a leaf taken from a bible, and which contains entries purporting to be a record of births of members of the Guthrie family. You are further informed that said paper cannot be surrendered. It would manifestly be improper for this bureau to surrender evidence upon which official action has been based; and were the surrender of such evidence justifiable, the bureau could not at this late day undertake to determine what descendant of revolutionary soldier has best right to receive the same.
Very respectfully,

Acting Commissioner
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Pleasant Hill, IL
March 16, 1935

Pension Bureau
Washington, DC

Gentlemen:
I am interested in finding out whether a certain John Guthrie was pensioned as a Revolutionary War soldier, and if so, the address to which his last pension payment was sent. This John Guthrie was born in King & Queens County, Virginia, in 1761. In 1777 he enlisted in the second Viriginia State Line, commanded at first by Colonel Gregory Smith, later by Colonel William Brent. John Guthrie served three years as fifer in this regiment in Captain Nathaniel Welch’s company.
If John Guthrie was pensioned for his Revolutionary War service, I would like to know the address where the past pension payment was sent so that I may ascertain the place of his death. If you will help me to determine this, I will be greatly obliged to you.

Respectfully yours,

Wayne Guthrie
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Office of E.G. Spilman
Attorney-at-Law
STAMPED:  October 15, 1904 Files

Kingfisher, Oklahoma 
October 7, 1904
US Pension Office
Washington, DC 

Sir,
I have the honor to request that you send me a copy of discharge of John Pollard Guthrie or John Guthrie the same person or such other record as you may have as to his service in the Revolutionary War. His widow Eliza Guthrie obtained pension under Act of March 4, 1848.
Recorded in Pension Office on roll of pensions act February 2, 1848, p 124 V. A. as shown by her certificate signed byH. R. Wrightman, clerk
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OFFICE OF
E. G. SPILMAN
ATTORNEY=AT=LAW.

KINGFISHER, OKLAHOMA  190__

John Pollard Guthrie was my great grandfather and I want dates to join the Sons of the American Revolution. His daughter Lucretia Day was my grandmother, and her daughter Eliza Spilman my mother. Kindly inform me of charges &c.
Yrs Resptfully
Edward Guthrie Spilman
{ink stamp: U. S. P. B. 
OLD WAY & NAVY FILES
OCT 15 1904]
[ink stamp: PENSION OFFICE  U. S. A OCT 14 1904]
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Guthrie
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B.D. Spilman, President
Parkersburg, West Virginia
H.E. Spilman, General Manager
Spilman, West Virginia
O.A. Roush, Secretary & Treasurer
Spilman, West Virginia

Consumers Coal & Mining Company
New Castle and Camden

Spilman, West Virginia

January 25th, 1904

Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, DC

Dear Sir,
There is a paper filed in the Pension Department among the records of pensions issued to Eliza Guthrie, widow of John Polock Guthrie. This pension was issued March 11th, 1851, under act of July 29th, 1848 recorded in pensioni office on the roll of pensioners under act of February 2nd, 1848, page 24, volume A.
The paper in question that my family is looking for is a leaf torn from an old family bible, containing other family records. I am extremely anxious to get a certified copy made of this leaf. 
Please advise me the cost, if any, of having this certified copy made and I will remit same at once. If there is no cost attached, will you kindly have certified copy made and forward to me?
Very respectfully yours, 
H.E. Spilman
Dic. H.E.S.
Received stamps:
Pension Office January 26, 1904
Old War & Navy Files January 30, 1904
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Mrs. Eliza Guthrie is the widow of John Pollard Guthrie, was married to him in August 1799, see Jacob D. Douglass’ affidavit on the same sheet that Mrs. Guthrie’s declaration is upon. See on same paper his affidavit at the time of Guthrie’s death. 
As to his revolutionary service, see his settlement of his declaration account here with enclosed, and also the copy of the certificate upon which he obtained his county land from Va.
Mrs. Guthrie claims under the act of 29th February 1848.
Wm Helm
14th Decr. 1850
Warrenton, Va
Commissioner Pensions
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Council Chamber 
May 31st, 1783
I do certify that John Guthrie is entitled to the proportion of land allowed a private of the state line for 3 years of service.
Benjamin Harrison 
Thomas Meriwether

A warrant for 100 acres of land to John Guthrie May 31st, 1783.
A copy from the records of the Virginia land office.
Teste: S. H. Parker
Reg. Land Office
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752 Ctf  Va S[?]
The Army and Navy Club
WASHINGTON 
Eliza
5286 File  
September 10/03

Hon. E. F. Ware
Commissioner of Pensions
Washington, DC

Sir,
Referring to a pension issued to Elizabeth Guthrie, widow of John Guthrie, March 11th, 1851, under act of July 29th, 1848, I have the honor to inquire if anyone got the papers.
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Relating to the above there is a leaf torn from a family bible? And if so, whether the family of the above pensioner may obtain the same? The leaf was given in evidence of the claim.

Very respectfully,
Alfred B Horner
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[cutoff] t
12/03 To Mr. Horner
Copy inside C.M.B
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Feby 1, 1904 
H.E. Spilman - Spilman W.Va
Copy of family record
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Oct. 29, 1904 His to 
Edward Guthrie Spilman
[marked out: Okl] Kingfisher OK
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1935 - Mar - 27 - Hist to
Wayne Guthrie - E

[right page] 
Sep
Rec'y 
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 5286
Eliza Guthrie
Widow
John Guthrie
Pvt Rev War
--
Act: July 29th 1848
Index : --- Vol. A, Page 297

[Arrangement of 1870.]
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Dec 16. 50
Application for a Widow's Pension under
The Act of 29th July 1848, --
No. 14. 278
Decl & Proof in
Eliza Guthrie Triplett
Case -
Wm. Helm
Warrenton
Va.

[lighter writing] 
Dec 16/50 Pension

[vertical writing] 
Warrenton Va
Dec. 15.  1883

James E. Heath Eqq.
Commissioner of Pensions 
Warrenton City, D.C.

[vertical stamp]
FREE
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Eliza Guthrie, wid 
of John 
Va.
Act 29th--July 1848

Add. (by order of the 
Commsr. of Pensions) 2 
years Pri. $80 per 
ann from 4th Mch
1848 --
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No. [illegible number] 278
Jan 10 1857

Papers relative to 
Capt. John Guthrie

Capt. Triplett

Dr. Wm Helm
Warrenton
Va
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No. 872

Eliza Guthrie
wid. of John
Va.

Act 29th July 1848
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This is to certify, That it appears from a list in this office of such Officers and Soldiers of the Virginia State Line as settled their accounts and received certificates for the balance of their Full Pay, according to an act of assembly, passed the November session 1781, directing the Auditors of Public Accounts to settle and adjust the pay and accounts of the said Officers and Soldiers from the 1st January 1777 to 31st December 1781,  (see Hening's Statues at Large, vol. 10, p. 462,) that a settlement was made on the 4th
day of July 1780 in the name of John P. Guthrie -- as a Soldr. of Infantry and evidence of the indebtedness of the State to him for ₤ 57.7.9 --- delivered to Jno. Shackleford ---but as the original settlements or copies thereof are not to be found in this office, the term of  service embraced therein cannot be stated.
Given under my hand at the First Auditor's Office, Richmond, this 2nd 
day of December 1850
p 75.  Ro Johnston
[No Seal of Office] First Auditor
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I Certify that I was acquainted with the late Capn. Jn0. Guthrie and his wife Eliza or Elizabeth Guthrie – I further Certify that I was for many years the proprietor of a sail making Establishment in the town of Alexandria and that I know Jno. Guthrie to be the Master of the Brig or Snow Rachel owned in the town of Alexandria, and further that the said Brig Rachel sailed from the Port of Alexandria under the command of the aforesaid Captain John Guthrie sometime in the years eighteen hundred and four upon a voyage to Europe and I further certify that the said vessel and her Crew has never since been heard from.

Given from under my hand in Alexandria Va this 
23rd day of December 1850
Thomas Sanford

State of Virginia
Alexandria County Court

  This day appeared before me a Justice of the Peace
for said County.  Thomas Sandford personally known to the subscribed
as a person of good standing and worthy of credit, and under oath in due
form of Law that the matters and things in the above certificate are true
as thus stated

Given under my hand this 23 day of December 1850

John H Brent JP
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Pension Office
March 5, 1851

Sir:

   The papers in the case of Elizabeth Guthrie 
under the Act of 29 July 1848 have been received.
  That some man of his name did serve in the 
Virgina State Line, is shown by the evidence, but there
is nothing in the proof connecting him with the 
claimant's husband.  The difficulty of procuring
the evidence of compatriots at this day, is apparent, 
but if this cannot be done, tradition any 
evidence of his service should be offered. There
must be many old citizens in the Alexandria who
remember Captain Guthrie, and who know whether
he was generally reputed to have been a revolutionary 
soldier. Their depositions on this
point should be taken.

Very Respectfully
Yr. Oft. Servt
J E Heath
Commissioner

Wm. Helm. Esq. 
Present

Rev.
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Custom House Alexandria
Collector's Office Dec 20th 1850

I, Joseph Eaches, Collector of the District and Port 
of Alexandria, do hereby certify that upon an 
examination of the records of this office, I find 
that on the 26th day of September 1804, the Snow,
 Rachel, Daniel McClean, John Young & Ferdinand 
Marsteller of Alexandria Owners, John Guthrie 
– Master – was duly registered at this Port – and 
that said vessel John Guthrie Master, on the 
29th day of September 1804 cleared at this Port for
Cowes & a Market. It does not appear that the 
Register of said vessel was ever delivered at this office 
nor do I find any entry on the books of 
the office in relation to said vessel subsequent 
to the date of her sailing from this Port.

Given under my hand 
& seal of Office 
the date above written
[signature] Jos. Eaches
[illegible]