Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S 41267, John Train, Cont. N.H.
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Cont N.H    John Train       S41267
John Train
S7 41.267 (N.H. Dischg)
Hudson
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R10671
John Train
Rejected because the proof of identity of claimant with his namesake of the New Hampshire rolls, lacks identity of service

See printed rejection book
DG
Nov. 14, 1911
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John Train's Discharge

John Train
S741267
N.H.
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John Train of Tinmouth enlisted in
to Capt. Gideon Bronsons Company in my
Regiment Continental Troops, for nine months
served his time well as a good soldier and
this shall be his discharge
Saratoga October 17th
1777
Seth Warner Carl[unsure of spelling]
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Vermont
Revo-
John Train
Suspended
[illegible]
July 9th 1836
Fr. E. Hapler 12th Decr1853
Fr. E Hapler 13th January 1854.
10671
Act 7th June 1832
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[crossed out text] Acts of July 14, 1862 and March 3. 1873

10671
P.O.
John Train
Service:
Enlisted: Rejected
Discharged               18
Application filed:      18
Alleges:
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I Obadiah Noble of Tinmouth in the
County of Rutland testify that I have been
acquainted with Joel Baldwin of Tinmouth
and David Griswold & Middletown for more than
twenty years and that I consider them both
men of integrity & think there is nothing
against the reputation of either for truth and
integrity
[illegible]20 October 1828
O.Noble Judge of [illegible]
for [illegible]
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Copy
John Train of Tinmouth enlisted in Capt. Gideon Bronsons company in my regiment continental troops for nine months served his time well as a good soldier and this shall be his discharge

Saratoga October 1th 1777
signed, Seth Warner, Col
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is
Rutland Oct 1828
I have seen your letter & papers re
[illegible], in the case of John Train in which you say the discharge he sent is a forgery. I had the same impression when he gave it to me & told him so. He however appeared perfectly honest
Moreover, he has all along told me he had a
discharge of that description, but could not find it
I expected it to be forged from its fresh appearance but I happened to have before me one of
which I had no doubt, & in comparison that
appeared about as fresh as his. The paper on
which his is written appears evidently from the
water mark to be of early fabric. [illegible] is a
disagreeable, filthy old fellow, but I am told by his neighbors & particularly Judge Hodges, who lives near him(& to whom I mentioned these suspicions) that he is considered honest. I have since seen Judge H who has expressed a desire
to see the discharge again. I should judge, however
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from the terms of your letter, that you have
the signature of Col. Warner, by which you are
enabled to determine its character by comparison
if so, that would be conclusive- if not, perhaps
you may err in your opinion. But be that
as it may, I will thank you to return it
to me for a short time, for the purpose of having Judge Hodges inspect it, to see if he can recapture in it the hand writing of any of his neighbors
If your opinion is founded wholly upon its fresh appearance, I believe you may find instances, probably in your own office of papers retaining
equal [illegible] when placed in the situation he
[illegible] this to have been, for an equal period of time.
Respectfully
Your obedient
R. [illegible]

J.L. Edwards Esq
Chief Clerk
Pension offer
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Williston St
Near 26th
Sergt John Train's
Claim
Sep. Marse's certificate
10
Jesse Gove Esquire,
Rutland,
Vermont
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State of Vermont
Tuesday 23rd February 1779. Met according to "adjournment and proceeded to business"

"Voted to choose a committees of one to join"
"a committee of the House to take into consideration the petition of Sergeant John
Train relation to paying him and the soldiers"
"who served under the command of Capt.
Isaac Clark in the year 1778 and report, as may appear on the Journal of the House. Member chosen"
Mr. Carpenter
I, Geo. B. Manser, Secretary
to the Governor Council of the State of
Vermont, do certify the foregoing to be a true extract from
the Journal of the Governor [illegible]
for the year 1779, now in this office
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed
my name & affixed the seal of said State, at
Williston this 19th day of March A.D. 1836
Geo. P. Manser
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Williston Mar. 25, 1836
My dear Sir
I beg your pardon for
my carelessness in the other certificate forwarded, and hope sincerely that for the
picture I may be more careful in
making figures & by so doing I shall
be able to make 1779 twice alike
forgive me for this extra trouble
I am putting you at, and remember
that any assistance from my office will be
most cheerfully rendered by your
Obedient and humble servant
Geo. B. Manser
Jesse Gove Esq
Rutland
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Washington City D C
December 13, 1833
Hon D. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir
In reply to yours of the 13 Dec in
rejecting the claim for a Revolutionary Pension of John Train, under act 1832 from Vermont
I have to state that the office is very
much in error in supposing that Col
Seth Warner was not in service in 775,
and as my authority I quote from
---
Zadrck Thompson. History of Vermont
Burlington Vermont, in 1842-
[illegible]34 of the Civil History-Revolutionary War
Section Event 1775
Reduction of Ticonderoga. Invasion of
Canada, Carlton defeated by Col. Warner
St John's & Montreal taken by Genl Montgomery
Assaulton Quebec
See also Section 3. As regards Col
Warner Actions
See Journals of the New York Provincial
Congress Vol. 1, pages 65, 66 - 107. for 1775
See American Archives, Vol. 3. 4 series page 530
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Also accompanying narrative of Col. Ethan Allen which after perusal you will please return to
Yours most respectfully
F. E. Hasslen
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Crownpoint
February the 8th 1853

F E Hasslen
[illegible]
Sir I send you employer the deposition of Abigail Nimbler of Tinmouth State of Vermont with respect to my [illegible] claim for a pension which is the best I have yet found. I have heard of a man at the north part of Vermont who was in the Battle of Bennington with my father. If you think it will be[illegible] I shall go and try to hunt him up
Yours [illegible] Jon a Train
If you write you will [illegible] to Crownpoint Essex County New York J Train
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 F. E. Hassler Esqr
in yours of the 21st Dec
has come to hand all right only
there was nothing encored to you
Intimated - I would call
your attention again to the John
Train pension a man from New york
writes that by taking a letter of
Administration that all that was
due him at his death can be
obtained that you have the
means of knowing you will please
to write me at Vergennes VT
I have found a woman that was
living at the time of Bennington Battle
her husband was there one at [illegible]
and went into Canada
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with my Father you of course
know what she can swear to the talk
of the people-- She is a smart
Lady and her Testimony cannot be
Impeached
yours
Jon a Train
Rowlett 31
Dec 1852
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Pawlett Dec 13th 1852
F.E. Hassler Esq
Sir yours of the 22nd of October
has come to hand in kindly to your request concerning my fathers service in the war. I shall state that he was under Col Warner at the Battle of Bennington and at the taking of Burgoyne-
previous to that he was under Col Ethan Allen Tinmouth in Canada and was at the Battle of  Hubbardton- to know these things are rather difficult until there remains some returns of  Col Allen ands Warner on record of  the Rev War Department I shall with the comfort of the [illegible] agree to take you at your offer you
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can see what you can find there and I will reach out after the testimony that I can find in the Country
Yours with Esteem
Jon a Train
So please write to me at Pawlett VT as soon as convenient J-Train
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State of Vermont
Rutland -
I Henry Hodges of Clarendon in said
County, being duly sworn do depose & say, that in the spring of 1827, John Train was indebted tome in about fifteen dollars, for goods out of H. W. Hodges store for his use  that I considered him so poor that I agreed to take in payment a part of a poor lot of land he owned lying on West Clarendon Mountain, supposed to contain
about 80 acres that J.A. Train deeded the land in question to Jonathan Colvin & Walter Green,
to pay the debts he owed them with an
understanding that my debt was to be paid out of it, and that in my opinion said land is
not worth more than  eighty or one hundred
dollars. I have however not examined it particularly and further say not

Henry Hodges
subscribed
sworn this
9. Sept. 1828, before me
R. Temple
J. Peace
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State of Vermont
Rutland County
On the 10th day of September 1828 personally came before the undersigned Justice of the Peace for said County,
[illegible]Colvin of Clarendon in said County, who being duly sworn
doth depose & say, that in the month of April 1827. John Train was indebted to me about seventy dollars, for board & for my attendance 
as a witness before the County Court at Rutland in a cause in which he was beaten, and he being also debted to Walter Green & Judge Hodges to the amount of about forty five dollars as the deponent believes, he then ┃
said John conveyed to said Green & myself by quick claim deed, about Eighty acres of land lying in West Clarendon mountain for the payment of our demand and it was
agreed that Judge Hodges was to be paid out of said land
and the deponent further says that said land is not in his opinion, worth over Seventy dollars - and [illegible]not
John Colvin
Subscribed & sworn this
10th day of Sept 1828 before me ⎬
R Fish
J Peace
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State of Vermont
Rutland 
On the 10th day of September 1828, personally came before the undersigned Justice of the Peace for said County
Walter Green of Clarendon in said County, who being duly sworn doth depose & say, that John Train was indebted to him in the spring of 1827, about thirty dollars, for
board & for his attendance as a witness before the County Court and that he conveyed to the despondent & Jonathan Colvin about Eighty acres of poor land on Clarendon
mountain, in payment of the debts he owed to Colvin, Judge Hodge & the despondent, as related in the annexed affidavit of said [illegible] and in the opinion of
the despondent said land is not worth more than Seventy dollars; and further says not
⎬Walter Green
Subscribed & sworn the
day & year above written
before me
Joseph A Hays Jus. Peace
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State of Vermont Rutland County ss  Orwell March 23d 1836
I Phiney Smith of Orwell in the County of Rutland and State of
Vermont of lawful age depose and say that in March
in the year 1778 in the revolutionary war the State of
Vermont raised two company of Men amounting to
one hundred men who was commanded by Capt Ebenezer
Allen and Capt Isaac Clark who then I believe both belonged
to Timmouth now County of Rutland Capt Allen had the
command the men were raised for two months for
the purpose of guarding the frontiers as the Torys and
Indians at that time was making frequent depredations
on our frontier inhabitants we entered the service in the
month of March 1778 and was first stationed at
Rutland then at Pittsford and Last at Brandon we
Built some Boats and went down otter Creek to bring
up the women and children whose husbands and others
had been taken and carried off by the Torys and indians
I myself belonged to Capt Clerks Company and John
Train of said Tinmouth was one of the soldiers who belonged
to said Company it is possible he might have been a
Sergeant or Corporal in said Company but my impression
is that he was a private soldier of this I am certain that
said John Train served in said Company for said two
months and was a good soldier ready at all times to
do his duty we served out our time and was regularly
Dismissed since the revolution I seen said John Train
many times and believe he has resided in Clarendon
some part of the time in said County Capt Allen was
since a colo in the militia and resided at his death
I believe on the [illegible] Capt Clark was after the
Revolution a lot in the militia and afterwards a
General and in the last war served as a Col in the
Regular Army and commanded a Regiment at the
north and further I further I say not
[Signature] Phiney Smith

Sworn to and subscribed at Orwell in the County of Rutland
and State of Vermont this 23d day of March AD 1836
Before me
[Signature] David Cutting
Justice Peace
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State of Vermont Rutland County S S. Samuel Beach
of Whiting in the County of Addison and State aforesaid
Depose and say that in the year 1775 I was at the Garrison of Crown point on Lake Champlain and in Conversation with Col. Seth Warner he observed to me that he
had been to Philadelphia, as near as I can recollect and
had taken Regiment of men to go to
be made and that the Blank Commissions for the officers was sent to General Schyler to be filled out by
him to such men as he the said Warner should
approved and recommend and he invited me to go
his Regiment which would be mostly raised within
my acquaintance as he [illegible] to raise them on
the Newhampshire his grant so called at that time and
I further certify and say that the said Col Henrmes Did
Proved and rainsed Regiment and marched with them
into Canada and among other soldiers there was a
man by the name of John Train and I farther say
that after the defeat of General Montgomery at Quebeck
Col Warner came to the relief of the remaining in
that wars not killed or taken prisoners and as near as
I Can attest it was on the 2d day of March 1776
when said Regiment arrived and I further say that the
said John Train Did at that time belong to said
Regiment and on their arrival I found the Company
and Regiment to which the said Train Belong and
further that said Regiment was bid and paid by the
United States and I also say that I have been personally
acquainted with the said John Train for more than
fifty years and he is the same man as set forth
in the above testimony and at whose Request this
Evidence is taken and further this Deponant saith
not
[Signature] Saml Beach late a Lieut in
Col. Seth Warners Regiment
taken subscribed and sworn before me at Orwell in
the County of Rutland and State of Vermont this 7th
day of November AD 1820 and I hereby certify that
I have been personally acquainted with the above named
Saml Beach Esqr for more than thirty years and that
he is a man whose testimony may solemnly believed
In all cases where he may be impressed as a witness
attest [Signature] Phiney Smith Chief Judge of Kirtland
County Court
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State of Vermont
Rutland Co
I Robert Pierpoint Clerk of
Rutland County Court, do certify
that Phiny Smith GEsq before whom
the foregoing deposition was taken
is Chief Judge
of said Court, and that the annexed
is his signature
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my
hand & affix the seal of said County at
and this 30 day of Nov. 1820
[Signature] R Pierpoint Clk
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State of Vermont Rutland County  On the 16th day of Oct 1828 personally came before me the undersigned authority David Griswold of Hiddletown& county of Rutland  a person any well known and credible witness also being duly sworn doth on his oath say that he is well acquainted with John Train of Tinmouth in sd county and was acquainted with him during the Revolutionary war.
[illegible]
Winens Regiment was at the battles of
Bennington & Saratoga
[illegible]
in said battles

[signature] David his x mark Griswold
Subscribed and sworn to before me in the day & year above written
[signature] Linus Crampton Just Peace
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Rutland 20 Oct 1828
Sir
John Train puts on a very
honest looking face & declares most solemnly
that the discharge he sent you is genuine
I told him however that might be he must
now prove his service by clear &
unimpeachable testimony. He has been very
diligent & has found another witness to prove
his services. Observing that this last witness
made his mark I told him this might
again excite suspicion, & that I should like
to be able to speak myself positively to his
credibility. Train said the witness had a lame
hand, which is the reason he made his mark
He has however, to day, brought me the
certificate of Judge Noble as to the credibility
of both witnesses, which places that question
beyond all doubt. W. Baldwin has made his
affidavit anew, for the purpose of giving a
more particular relation of the facts within
his knowledge. I have concluded to forward the
papers anew, without waiting for a reply to
my last in the [illegible]
Respectfully
Your ob svt
R Temple

J L Edwards Esq
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State of Vermont
Rutland
On the 13th day of October 1828, personally
came before the undersigned authority, Joel
Baldwin, of Tinmouth in the County of Rutland
a person to me well known & a credible
witness, who being duly sworn, doth depose &
say that he is well acquainted with John
Train of said Tinmouth & was acquainted with
him during the Revolutionary war. I am 75
years of age & live within five miles of him.
In the winter of the year 1777 I know he enlisted into Col Seth
Warners Reg at Tinmouth for nine months
was at Saratoga in May following, when I saw
him doing duty in said Regt as a soldier, And I
understood at the time & have no doubt he served
the full term of his enlistment. I have lived a
near neighbour to him most of the time since
said war, and have always understood & verily
believe he was in the Battles of Bennington
& Saratoga
subscribed & Sworn before
 me the day & year above
Written
[signature] Chad Phillips-- J. Peace
[Signature] Joel Baldwin
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State of Vermont
Rutland
I Robert Pierpoint Clerk of Rutland
County Court, do certify that Linas
Crampton & Chad Phillips, before whom
the annexed affidavits were taken, are
Justices of the Peace for said County, duly
commissioned and that their signatures thereto
described are in their own proper hand writing
In testimony whereof I hereunto set my
hand & the seal of said Court at Rurtland
this 16 day of October 1828
[Signature] R. Pierpont
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Nathaniel Chipman of Tinmouth, County of
Rutland and State of Vermont aged eighty three years
deposeth and saith that in the year 1775 his residence
was in the State of Connecticut that he spent part
of the summer of that year at said Tinmouth
where his fathers family then resided, he there became
acquainted with John Train then as he believes a minor
he understood that the said Train had enlisted in
Col S Grant's company in a regiment commanded
by Colonel Seth Warner in the American service
that in the month of July of the same year he was at
Reconderogue [Ticonderoga?] and at Crown Point, he sent some
days at the latter place, where Col grants company
with some other American troops were stationed - he
there saw the said John Train doing duty of a soldier
in said company-- that this deponent was in
September 1776 on a visit at Tinmouth he there again
saw the said John Train and was informed by the him
that on the expiration of his first term of service, which was six months
he inlisted again for another term of six months under the
same Colonel Seth Warner that he served the following winter in canada at Quebec and retreated thence
with the Americans in the spring of 1776 this
deponent also resided the same information from
sundry other person who served in the regiment with
the said Train. In the year 1779 this deponent came to
reside in the State of Vermont where he was informed
that the said John Train had served in a regiment raised
for six month by the convention of the Newhampshire
grants [illegible] so called, since the State of Vermont, and
commanded by Colonel Herrick, that he was with
that regiment in the action of Benningtonfought
general Starks and afterwards assisted at the capture
of Mount Defiance of out post of Ticonderoga the
deponent recollects particularly his having received
this information from his brother who served in the same regiment
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Regiment commanded by Colonel Herrick as above
mentioned was with said JohnT rain in the Bennington
action and at the capture of [illegible] at defiance which brother
is since [illegible]. This deponent has some distant resolution
of other services performed by the said Train in the Frontier
garrisons but not sufficeintly distinct to say any thing
with certainty
[Signature] Nathaniel Chipman

State of Vermont
Rutland County
Tinmouth June 25th 1835
Then personally appeared Nathaniel Chipman
and made solemn oath to the truth of
foregoing Deposition by him subscribed
before me
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David Griswold of Middletown County of Rutland
and State of Vermont aged Eighty seven years Deposes
and Saith that in the year AD 1775 I enlisted in
the company commanded by Capt Hopkins in Col
Seth Warners Regiment for six months was at that time
acquainted with John Train there of Tinmouth County
of Ruttland and State of Vermont (then a Colony)
I marched to Ticonderoga before I joined the Regiment
at which place I saw John Train who was there a soldier as I understood in Capt Grants
Company & Col Warners Regiment we marched
from Ticonderoga to Crown point from Crown point
to the isle of Noix from there to St John and
from there to [illegible]from there to  [illegible]
where we had a Battle with Gov Cartelon
I do not positively recollect but believe John Train
was in the Battle From L [illegible] we crossed
the river St Lawrence to Montreal (Gov Carlitonhad
at this time retreated to Quebec) After staying
some days we were by Col Warner permitted to return
home (Being destitute of clothing, under a promise
from lot thence that if we would again enlist our
pay should come on the first of December which was
about the Time our first in months expired I again
enlisted in Capt Hopkins Company Col Warners Regt
and marched to Quebec where I think I saw John
Train in Capt Potters Company in the sd Colwarners
Regiment after staying in Quebecthrough
the winter we left about the 6th day of
May 1776 and returned home
[Signature] David Hisx x mark Griswold
attest [signature] Elias Salsbury  
[signature] David Griswald Jr
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Tinmouth July 9th 1835 Personally appeared
David Griswold and made Solemn Oath that the
within Deposition by him subscribed is
made agreable to truth before me
[Signature] Noah W Sawyer Just peace
This may certify that David Griswold is a
man possessing his power of those in a
remarkable degree and a man whose word
where he is known is unquestionable
[Signature] Noah W Sawyer
[Signature] Elias Salsbury
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Majr Elias Posts' Deposition Claim of John Train
Declaration of Elias Post
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I Elias Post of Tinmonth County of Rutland and State
of Vermont aged seventy two years testify and say that
I have been acquainted with Mr John Train then and
now of Tinmouth and that I was knowing of his serving
two months at Rutland in the year 1776 in a Company
commanded by Capt. Ebenezer Allen whose company was
stationed with a company commanded by Capt Isaac
Clark for the same term and I remember from
this circumstances that he the said John Train
was quartered at my fathers house with several others
from Timmouth belonging to said company
[Signature] Elias Post
Tinmouth July 8th 1835 Personally appeared
Elias Post and made solemn oath that the
above Deposition by him subscribed is made
agreeable to truth before me
[Signature] Noah Hawk aside

State of Vermont
Rutland County hI, Robert Pierpoint, Clerk of the
County Court within and for said County, do
hereby certify, that the said Luther Daniels
Noah W. Sawyer & David Cutting were
severally, at the times of their subscribing the
attestations to the preceeding depositions,
Magistrates in and for said County,
and that the foregoing signatures
purporting to be theirs are genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set the seal
of said County Court, and subscribed my name
this eleventh day of May, in the year one thousand
eight hundred and thirty six.
[Signature] R. Pierpoint
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Deposition of David Griswold

Deposition of David Griswold
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Serg John Train's
Claim
Hon. Pling Smith's Deposition

Orwell 25 near

Colo Jesse Gove
Rutland Vermont
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Dear Sir
[illegible] March 23d 1836
I this day received a line from you
requesting my deposition in favor of Mr John Trin
in relation to some part of his services in the revolutionary war I have made my deposition and testified
to his three months service with me in the spring of
1778 under Capt Isaac Clark which is all I know
relating to his service in the revolution you mention
that it appears by the records of the Govt and Council
at that period that Mr Train served one year as
Sergeant under said capt Clark in 1778 but did not
continue in the service at that date and itbeing but
a boy in my Seventeenth year I was not much
acquainted with those in service although I well recollect
at this time of frequently hearing of Capt Clark being
in the service about that period you ago mention you
Wrote to me last summer for my Deposion in the case
of Mr Train said not receive your line and this Day
is the first information I ever had requesting my
Deposition in favor of Mr Train and have now
taken the earliest opportunity to direct you in consider
with sentiments of return I remain yours
to serve &
[Signature] Phiny Smith
Col Jesse Gove
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Revolutionary

Additional Evidence
[?] Claim of
John Train

Vermont [?] 1832
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Abigal Ambler of Tinmouth in the County of Rutland and state of Vermont [?]  and says I am Eighty [?] years of Age that I came to Tinmouth [?] to Live in the year of our Lord seventeen hundred and seventy Eight and that [?] well [?] with [?] Train of said Tinmouth who lived there [At the?] time And that it was
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To Hon James L. Edwards
Comr of Pensions
City of Washington
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Rutland Vt. 13. June 1836
Sir
I transmit you herewith the declaration of John Train and together with it, the Certificate of [Secretary?] [?], and the several depositions of Mrs Mary Spafford, Judges Nathl. Chipman & Pliny Smith, of Capt. David Griswold, and [?] Elias Post. It was my intention to have [?] also the deposition of Deacon Amos Weller
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The Certificate of Mr Manser will show I suppose
that he served as a Sergeant in 1778 as would also,
Deacon Weller, for 1775 and 1776
If the continued service in 1775 and 1776 be
estimated as such, I suppose he may be continued
under the former allowance.
I am very respectfully
Sir
Your Obt Svt
[Signature] Jesse Gove
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Know all men by these [presents?] that I John Train of Clarendon in the county of Rutland & State of Vermont for the consideration of one hundred Dollars received to my full satisfaction of Jon a Colvin & Walter Green Both of Clarendon in the county of Rutland & State of Vermont [?] give
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State of Vermont
Rutland County ss Be it remembered that on the
18th day of April AD 1827 personally
appeared John Train Signer &
Sealer of the within instrument
& acknowledged the same to be
his free act & Deed before me
[Signature] Horatio Beall Justice Peace

Recd for record April 20th 1829 & recorded
attest Silas W Hayes L. Clk
Town Clerks office at Clarendon Sept 10th 1828
hereby certify the foregoing to be a true
copy of record attest Silas W. Hodges T Clk
---
-
Deed
Jona Train to Jona Colvin &
Walter Green
copy of record
Sept 10th 1828
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David Griswell's
[Affadavit?]
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David Grewell of Middletown in the County of
Rutland and State of Vermont of lawful age testify
and say that I served in the late Revolutionary War
in Col Seth Warner's Continental Regiment in the
year one thousand seven hundred & seventy five
and one thousand seven hundred & seventy six
and was knowing to John Train then of Tinmouth
in sd County to serve a private soldier in Capt John
grants Company belonging to said Warner Regiment from same time in the month of June 1775
until May 1776 about eleven months and was
with him in taking St Johns Chumblete and
Mountrial [Montreal] in lower Canada and from thence
was with the sd John Train on the March to be
and during the winter and until some time in
the month of May following when he was dis
charged near Montreal and have been acquainted with him ever since and know him
to be a poor man
[Signature] David Griswold

Rutland
County
January the 15th 1819 then personally appeared
David Griswold and made Solemn oath that the foregoing
Deposition by him subscribed contains the what truth and
nothing but the truth full Credit given  
before me
[Signature] Moses Ambler Justice
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David Griswold of Middletown in the County of Rutland & State of Vermont
of lawful age testifies and says that he is well acquainted with
John Train now residing Tinmouth in sd County of Rutland
and have been ever since the year AD. 1775 in the summer, at which
time I know him the sd John to be a soldier in Captain John
grants Company in Col. Seth Warners Regiment time I was a
soldier in Capt Wait Hopkins Company in sd Regt and we were
both at the seige and captures of the Brittish posts of
St. Johns, Chamblee [Chambly] & Montrial [Montreal] under the command of General
Montgomery, and that the sd John continued in services in sd Regt
untill about the first day June in the year 1776 in lower and
and further the deponant saith not.
[Signature] David Griswold

State of Vermont Rutland County Js
Widdow A. 28th 1818
Personally appeared David Griswold and after being carefully
[signature] and duly cautioned made solemn oath to the foregoing
deposition by him subscribed to be the truth and nothing but the truth
before me
[Signature] Elisha Clark Jus Peace

I Elisha Clark of Tinmouth in the County of Rutland
& State of Vermont being duly sworn do depose & say
that I was acquainted with John Train of said
Tinmouth during the revolutionary war that I
well knowing to his the sd Trains being a soldier
Capt. John Grants Company in Col. Seth Warner
Regiment of continental troops and that he served
in sd Regiment as such about three months at a
period in the years 1775 & 1776 and that I was
Sargent Major in the same Regiment and that I
Train now resides in the town of Tinmouth
aforesaid
[Signature] Elisha Clark

State of Vermont
Rutland County ss
Tinmouth 2. Nov. 1878
personally came Elisha Clark
Esquire of sd Tinmouth and made Solemn
oath that the forgoing affidavit by him
Subscribed is made agreable to truth
before [Signature] Obadiah Noble Just Peace
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State of Vermont
On this 25th day of April 1818 before me the
subscriber one of the Judges of Rutland County
Court personally appears John Train of Tinmouth
in said County of Rutland, aged fifty nine years
who being by me first duly sworn according to law
doth on his oath make the following declaration
in order to obtain the provision made by the late
act of Congress entitled "An act to provide for certain
persons engaged in the land and naval service of
the United States in the revolutionary war"-
that he the said John Train enlisted in the month
of June 1775 in Tinmouth in the State of Vermont
into the company commanded by Capt. John Grant
in Col. Seth Warner Regiment of Vermont - that he
continued to serve in said center or in the service
of the United States until the month of May 1776
when he was discharged from service at Sorrel in
Lower Canada. That he served six months in Capt
Allen Company Col Herrick, Regiment
in 1777 - that he was in the battle at St Johns &
Bennington and at the capture of Bargaine, [Burgoyne] and
that he is in reduced circumstances, and stand
in need of assistance from his country for support
and that he has no other evidence now in his
power of his said services-
[Signature] John Train

subscribed and sworn to and declared before me
the day and year aforesaid
[Signature] Amos Thompson one of the
Judge of Rutland County
Court
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I Amos Thompson one of the Judges of Rutland
County Court as aforesaid in the State of Vermont
do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the
said John Train did serve in the revolutionary war
as a soldier against the common enemy
& that from his reduced circumstances he stands in need of assistance for support
as stated in the preceding declaration and I
now transmit the proceedings and testimony taken
and had before me to the Secretary of war
and to the directions of the aforesaid act of Congress
Given under my hand at Poultney in sd County
this 25th day of April 1818

[Signature] Amos Thompson Jone of the Judges Rutland County Court

By order of Judge Hammond
`R. Temple Clk
-
I certify that Elisha Clark & Odadiah Noble [illegible]  before whom the foregoing affidavit
were taken is Justices of the peace
acting under the authority of this State
and that the annexed are their signatures
Nov. 3. 1818
[Signature] R Temple Clk
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The deposition of Mary Spafford of Rutland in the County of Rutland and State of Vermont, aged 84 years, who testifies and says, that in March, 1772, she was married at Salisbury Connecticut, to the late Col. John Spafford, and removed into Tinmouth, Vermont, in the month of June of the same year; where they resided over seven and twenty years. There were but five families in Tinmouth when they moved in; one of which was that of the family of John Train, now of the same Tinmouth, and whom this deponent hath known ever since. And this deponent further  says, that upon the first organization of the Militia in that town and the adjoining towns, John  W. Niel was appointed Captain of a Company; her said husband, John Spafford, Lieutenant; and New Crampton, Ensign. This was somewhat before the war of the Revolution. Very soon after the commence-ment of that war, Capt W. Niel left the Country, and the said Spafford was promoted to the command of the Company. The said John Train was about that time appointed a sergeant in said Company, and remained a sergeant during the war.
This deponent has [?] [?] to her, the declaration of the said Train, made the 30th day of July last, and does [?] believe that the same is true. Her husband, [?] the war and while he was captain of the said Company was often called upon to turn out with his men for the various services required in those times, and always called upon said Train. I cannot recollect the particular times that he went - his father's family were near neighbors to us - and I know therefore that he always turned out. I have often heard my husband say, that there were no better soldiers, nor better friends to this Country, than John Train. I was knowing to his leaving Tinmouth in the manner by him related, for the purpose of going to Quebec with Col. Warner's Regiment; and I have no doubt, that he went there as stated. I know Capt. Ebenezer Allen of Tinmouth, and was knowing to said Train's joining his Company as related by Train. On his return from Quebec, he stoped[?] at our house, before going to his Father's, and related to my husband, the scenes of that expedition. Train had himself been sick with the small pox. This deponent know that the said Train was appointed a sergeant, as above stated,
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and from herown knowledge, and what she has heard her husband say of him, she does verily believe, that said Train served as a sergeant at the several times and places, stated by him, as aforsaid. And further this deponent saith not.
August, 1835.     [?][?]

State of Vermont
Rutland County [?]
Be it known, that on the eleventh day of May, 1836, before me the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for said, County of Rutland, personally appeared Mary Spafford, who hath subscribed the preceding deposition in my presence, and made solemn oth that the same contains the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And I do hereby certify that the deponent is a credible Witness[?].
Luther [?] Justice, Peace
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Mr J L Edwards Commissioner of Pensions
Sir Arguable to your circular addressed to the [illegible] of Rutland County by the Hon Wm Slade Member of Congress from this district relative to Pensions I take this opportunity to give you Brief statement of the facts in my case

Enlisted in the Copany commanded by Gideon Bronson Regiment commanded by Seth Warner I inlisted in Vermont was in the Battle of Bennington VT served nine onths as was discharged at Saratoga  was also in the battle at Saratoga at the taking of Burguin [Burgoyne] I enlisted as a regular soldier
I resided in Clarendon Vermont when I made application for a pension
I made oath to my services before Robert Pierpont Esq of Rutland Vt
The evidence were to prove my services Joel Baldison of Timmouth and David Griswold of Middletown
The Amount of Pension recd is $96 per annum and have recd my pay up to Sept 4th 1834
The above statement is true, according to my best recollect.
[signature] John his x mark Train
Witness to John Trains mark this day made by him in person of Elias Salsbury
[signature] Edmond R Post Ymmouth Feb 17th 1835
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[?] Feb 17th 1835
This day personally [appeared?]