The New-Jersey journal — Chatham, N.J., 1782-08-28 00:00:00, page 2

™^l confeqaeneei, and of/efreApe prayer of
'dutiful and lo,al addreffesffro^The^e be deduced
L a possible finrilariy, ifttye waW^gfctive objett
'ion to the claifas of privileges new tyt,quellion.
He hoped for the beorft of the rmtye _\arge, that
no such obje&ion would arilfe, anduhatWe resolu
tion would pass nemine ^fafo/iAhiclhe then
held in his hand to propole. ^ he ibft^qe of the
resolution was, "That the aft of the,th JGeorge
" the iff Should be REpealed." anqth<:l@u{e te
folved, " It was expedient and necefiry, that the
" laws refpe&ing Ireland Should be placed on Jperma
“ nent foundation, so as to ensure the future happi
" nefs of both countries;" for which purpose his
Majesty was to be addressed.
The Chancellor, in form, read the resolution, after
which fl
Lord Carlife delivered his sentiments in de„rfl,
as > the state and political conduft ofMheland.
His Lord Ship warmly commended th&geople ol
that country ; spoke to their griev arfes^fend pe
necessity that exited for redress ; condufo with
hisaffint to the proposition of Lord Sh&fyrc.
Lord Loughborough contended ftrongry that the
prelent mode of proceeding was quite irregular.
His Lordship had an objection to give Ireland what
fie demanded; but he was not against allowing her
what ^efolictted, He was also quite opposite to
deciding, in the prefect moment, ultimately, on
what always hitherto had the benefit of deliberation.
It was a new and uncommon thing to move a re
solution declaratory of an aft of parliament, before
even leave was alked to bring in a bill for the pur
pose. This indeed looked like the apprehensions
of government, and pusillanimous fears of ministers.
It was not to be argued away. His Lord Ship was
of opinion that regularity, in the present instance,
had been laid aside, and not only the old established
law ofthe land repealed, but the common forms of
the legislature diipenled with. He informed the
House, that he came to hear, am* be intruded on
thebufinefs, and net to decide on the question,— —-^
Some time Surely was requisite to confider Lord
Shelburne's proposition. A resolution made at four
o'cl ck, was not to be determined on at eight, where
so great, so important a matter was in agitation,
and of which nb previous notice had been given.
The learned Lord then took a view of Poyning's
Law, the Declaratory Aft, of the Mutiny Bill, of
the Writ of Error, and the Right of Appeal, to all
which he had his obje&ions in the prefect hasty
mode of proceeding, nor could be get rid bf them,
unhfs pr< per time was given for a due configuration
of their merits.
Lord Shelburne replied, explained, and argired.
He thought it was belt to meet the wishes of Ireland
in an open, fair, friendly, and candid manner; not
to Skulk behind forms, nor to obtrude common
place parliamentary opinions.
Lord Loughborough elucidated what he had before
advanced, and was answered by
Lord Camden, who spoke most warmly in favour
of Ireland, condemning, in severe terms, those lawt
which so unconstitutionally bound the peopleof hat
country, to the opinion of a Privy Council in En
gland. His Lord Ship, in reply to Lord Loughbo
rough's want of proper informations alked the learned
Peer whether that deficiency of Irish knowledge arose
from hi: late visit to Ireland, or from his inattention
to reading the papers that lay on the table for Some
days pall He begged the learned Lord to inform
the House what were his real objections, arid what
were his legal arguments against granting Iceland het
present demands. He desired his Lordship to slate
them, and that then he (Lord Camden) would, as far
as he was able, ,nfwer them. He Speke with a
thorough knowledge of the country; and infifled,
by his last argument, that the present state of Ireland
demanded unanimity in the Parliament of Great- Bri.
tain, to the relocations proposed.
Lord Loughborough again replied in explanation,
and deduced, from the arguments of Ministers, that
fear, tod not gocd-wi I, prompted them to support
the prefenr propositions.
Lord Townsend thought himfelf bound, on the
present question, to give his sentiments. He was a
resident for five years in Ireland, and could, from a
knowledge ofthe people there, pronounce that it was
both wife, politic, necessary, and advantageous in
Great-Britain to agree to the present refutations
Ireland had, for many years, been a plundered and
oppressed country ; its constitution invaded, its rights
and privileges trampled upon, its treasury emptied,
and its people impoverished. The day of emancipa
tion was now arrived, and he who obstructed that
great event was a double enemy—he militated against
the freedom of Ireland, and he fought against the in
tcreUs of Great Britain. From a thorough know
ledge of the Irith, bis Lordhip t^ok upon him'to
aver, that they were an c^en, sensible, generous,
loyal, courageous, and frieoly people. Brave in
their native Spirit, they defied danger ; hofoiiable in
their hearts, they were alive to the sensations of
friendship ; and affectionate to their Sovereign—so
rebellion to the Mejetty of England exited io their
bosom. Fo refufe the dutiful requisitions of such a
people would be flying in the face of common sense,
common honesty, common policy, and national re&-
itude. It would be a kind of sacrilege to the pro
feffionftf the new ministry if any of them deferred
the present question ; and by such desertion, his Lord
fbip added, that in its coniequences might have fatal,
very fatal effects. The people Of Ireland Were not
effeminated by the extreme of debauched vices ;
they were not debilitated by luxury, nor worn out in
toe fantaftical habits of modern falhion. Tney
detained universally their natural Strength ; and with
uncontaminated honour ; supported by such bul
wark, they ought to be tefpe&ed, attended to, and
their requisitions liberally debated.
His Lord Ship was followed by the Duke of Lein
fer, who supported the motion in a Candid and
fair manner. His Grace spoke for some considera
ble length of time, warmly defended the rights of
the Irish legislature to bind themselves, pointed out
the expences attending appeal, on this fide the water
in firong terms, declared, from his own knowledge,
the loyally of the Irish, and concluded with giving
his assent to Lofd Shelburne's motion.
Lord Afoburton attacked Lord Loughborough in
reSped to a.matter that dropped, in which the Chief
Justice declared, that seven eighths of the property
of Ire and would be injured by such a resolution.
And he attacked with success, for the learned Lord
did not reply.
Lord Shelburne again spoke, and after him the
Duke of Chandos, on the fame fide, requeuing una
nimity.
The quefrion was put, but there being one nega
tive, it did not pass vernine difentiente.
May to, A letter from Copenhagen fays, that a
treaty of commerce and amity is concluded on be
tween that Court and the Court of Petelfburg, to the
great joy of the people in general, as it will be a
means of b iogfg the p^duttic^ of Raffia to a
market in that kingdom.
We hear it is in contemplation in the Cabinet, to
'oblige every pariSh to furnifh a certain number of
poor boys from the several work-houses, to be im
mediately feet on board the fleet. This would not
only be of infinite Service to the havy, but would
likewise lessen the expences of maintaining them.
Admitting every parish was only to furnish fix float
boys, the aggregate amount, one year with another,
would be equal to ,000 young sailors.
Letters from Rotterdam, by the lail mail, mention,
that a confirmed account has been received there of
the terrible hurricane that lately happened off the
island of Ceylon, and great damage {attained on the
Coromandel roast.
June 6, All the letters from France and Spain
^ ee in giving an astonishing account of the prepa
rations that are making by both countries fir the
siege of Gibraltar. The Spaniards now despair of
Starving the garrison, and therefore are determined
to make a vigorous effort to take the place by regular
approaches. The Duke de Crilion is to command
a combined army of 40,060 men; and for fix
months past artillery, ammunition, and provisions,
have been collecting from every quarter at St, Roche.
8. There was a report this day at Change, that an
officer would fail to-morrow in a frigate for Charlef
town, with dispatches for the commanding officer at
that place, directing him to embark the troops under
his command, and proceed immediately for the vVefl-
Indies ; as many of the inhabitants as pteafed might
go to New-York, or vessels were to be provided by
government to bring them and their effeds to Eu
rope.
BOSTO N, &ffl 1,
On the to inflant, his Excellency the Marquis g e
Vadruiel, arrived in the lower harbour of this town,
with bis whofiftel. and a number ofp^&s, taker, on
ibe passage fr^n the Weft-Indies. Having made the
left ai/pofaton of hisft>ps, and bought them at near
the town as circumfances would allow, the Marquis
on the t yh, gave bis publicfalate by the rtrfcbarge of
the cannon of his ship, to which the caflie infancy
made a suitable return. Soon after the Marquis,
with the chiefs a Efcadre, and principal officers ofthe
sea and land itice cgme up to town and pacing in
"^&° a "' reeled ^e salute of the caftte, and on
trapapproach fa the town, that of the fetrfs on fort
kef, i bey were attended and complimented at land
%7 ^ Col. primes, an 7 officer f&t 1, his txrellenty
the Governor for that purpose, and a large number of
gentlemen, and agreat cencourfe of people, Voluntarily
collect, who paid them eroeg mark of rejpea proper
to fueb an occafon, and demonjirated theirjoy „ z re
peated and warm acclamations.
Ihe Marquis and officers of diftinfiion accompany
ing him, an their way t^ the boufe ofthe ennJul General
of France were met by the conjul, whoproceeded with
them immediately tfthe feat of his Excellency the Go
vernor, where bis honour the Lieut. Govmsr, and
the Honourable Council were convened, and wb^e
e^er, thing displayed, on this 'agreeable orfafar, 'the
facerity andwarwh of the happy friendjhip Jubffong
between the two nations. After an elegant forenoon
repfl, the Ma?quis with his officers and the conjul Ge
neral, accompanied by his. Excellency the Governor and
the Council, paid a visit to his honour the Lieut. Go
vernor ; upon which the company proceeded to the
house of the consul General of France, where an ele-•
gant dinner, and toasts expreffve of the cl fe connex
ion and increasing affeXion between France and Ame
rica, were given.. ;
After dinner the Marquis, with hi: officers, and the
conjul General, went to the Govt nor's house, to pay
their particular compliments to his Exceiiency's lady
The indications of a generaljy, and a public fri t nd<
foi, were viable through the whole town.
Extras of a letter from an American gentleman, in
public employment, raiding at Amfodam, to his
friend in New England, dated iSth of February
1782.
" THERE is one thing, my dear Sir, you'll p^d^
tay repeating, and that is the attempts ofthe EnyEfe
Minty,, by their agents, to bribe car cofoymen to
ftfpl) shew with mass.—One hunched and /event,
pounds furling, have been ff red for every 0%, chib
inches diameter, J bale heard from good authority,
that protection: have been granted by the Minify to
secure them against Englifc fivateers; the plan is to
clear out for France or Amflerdam. I have been told 1
this b, a gentleman wno was requeued to be concerned
in this infamous traffic, but who dfpifrd it. he tad
me of two prote&icns. If ought to be known whether
maf^ ate bona fide intended for France or Amfc'dam,
Ought not bonds to treble the amount be required?"
Extract from the Public Advertif/, a London p^per,
of March 2, 1782.
" It has been pretended that England f^&ff'Ad^ -
trade with the Americans : 9bis is 4 „fy s fh.Q.
Ibe interef and the inflation ofthe Am^icahs both
lead them to t*ade with us, and we may te verveefy
upon this, point. Ihe following ext^R fa letier
found on board a veffi/fm Philadelphia, sand for
Amferdam, and bi ought m^ Plymouth, may ferv'e ^
confirm this afertioH "
" If youfend Brstife%rd ware, take care to make
sac invoices in juch a r^tfer that the public officers
^a, ftfe# nothing ; for English goods are all liable
to bejei%ed.^ It will not he diffcult for you to procure
certificates jerquing to prove that they came from prizes
maae upon the en.rny. As to the at her goods, the marks
mus be changed, and new ones put on: You will also
matß toe price in farsns, and not in fleriing money."
[// is beyond all doubt, that the enemies of these free
fates place great part of their hopes cffna 'ly enJlawing
us, upo^their trading with us; and thatf cm such a
trade they have drawn nofmall part of their refouces
in ire prefect war. They who are engaged in it, would
do well to patye a moment, and ask their own boioms,
whether they do not virtually fell to the enemy, the li
berty, toe happine/s, and even the lives of theirft Low
citizens. Is st pcffble to conceive that a man of ho
nour, or even of common humanity, can in am sense
eh jkf 'be gains be draus from the mijerics a?a the
blood cf his country. The merchants f America ho^
nourea themselves, and highly merited of their country,
by the efforts the, early made against the oppreffans of
Attain, tn the agreements of non importation. It was
a nob+efacrifee of private gain to public good, which
bfory cannot fail to transmit with appiaufe to future
a g". /feciations, it is said, are now so mir£ against
^*Jb°nour aule, a fatal commerce with the enemy.
Every good citizen mufl wifefuccefs to a defgn fofa
jfabic andfo highly favourable to the public welfare.
Should fueb afoccasions among gentlemen in trade be
come univerfai, or even general, they would produce
immtnfego:d; they wcutd dash the hopes of our cruel
enemies ; tee, would jhorten the war ; fe }would
lileafe many from the aifmal ab^de of a prifen Jhip or
a dungeon; and would contribute greatly to a perma
nent foundation.for afair andfie: trade ofthefefates
with all quarters of the globe to the perpetually in
creasing advantage of the prefect ana ail future gene
rations, /That man would not wifo to fland upon so
honourable and virtuous a ground, and to afford hit
f%'% <M#tr,je imports an aid.