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' *.•»• A>ft?RICA^NAVtOA-rION Act.
On motion «f Sr. Mmvk, the house resolved it
into • rrimmiUsebf the whole, Mr. Hethaan
V tbiflriwir, on the1 Mill “respecting the commercial
fnrnreoureebetween ilieU. States ami G. Britain
tiod France, and tor other purposes."
After the chairman bed read throughttfe third
Section (which interdict: the mu >ucr flBctbe L'
cited States of a]I vessels sailing under the (Sags of
Great Britain or Trance)—■
Mr. Livermore said he thought it proper to ex a
loins boss this interdiction of the entrance of all
private vestela vtould operate. He had wailed for
Some gentleman of the committee to explain what
• %dnld be'tbe operation of the bill ; but none had
tome forward. He thought it worthy of enquiry
fcow far, if this bill were pasted, Oea,t ttriiain
might eoontervall ths restrictions imposed by the
V; States. In thepresent forqa, he conceive 1 the bill
might operate very injorioosly. The committee
oaght to consider what «i tides were to be exported
fmnj^tbe United States anil what to be brought
back in return. F.very article exported was bulky,
WS cotton, tobacco, &c. whilst the tnarularturcs
imported in return Hid not occupy much space. If
this bill as it stood were to l/e passed, would not the
cooteqaenre b* s ini* to prevent the entrance I
bur vessels into the waters otj^reut Liritain ? It it
S^tl! Cull
dr ere in the power of cons
name!
inline the earn
•geof tbs products of th^Ritcd States absolutely
to then own registered vessels, some benefit ir ight
*»snl« to the shipping interest of the United Slates
from such a measure ; but it whs nut in the power
•f ccMgrrSt to tie up ths hands of Great Britain
end Franre. If the Unitrd States were to enter
into a warfare of this nature, it would be playing
• game which would operate to their own disudvan
. lag*, end not to that of foreign nations. lie be
lieved it would lie found that the duties on tonnage
•ltd the discriminating duties oh imports h.,d carri
ed this system as far as was expedient; end he
eould not see any benefit to result from prohibiting
foreign vessels from entering our waters.
Mr. /sawyer sat* that he too yeas opposed to this
saeticn sod to the wholp bill altogether, I ersuse it
•as not strong enough ; it was evapoiating the spi
yitof tbsnation in mere commercial r'gtil&tions.
Mr. Sawyer continu'd with a war speech. <md cori
winded by moving that the committee rite, with n
View te postpone the subject till the 3a Alond iy in
fshrusry.
Mr, Macon adverted to the very opposite reasons
for which the two gentlemen wbo preceded him had
Apposed the bill.
Mr.Sawyer’s motion for the committee's rising
was negatived without a division. Thu was under
ttixul le he a peremptory decision against postponing
hie consideration the hill.
The Chsirrnan proceeded to read the fourth sec
tion af the Hill, which provides “ that from and
After the passing of this act it shall not he lawful
to import into the Unitrd States or the territories
thereof, in any vessel or vessels not owned wholly
by citizcns-of the United States, and registered ac
cording to law. any goods, witres or merchand ise,
from any port or place sitoated in G. Britain or
Trance," ^rc. &r.
r. Livermore said be could not conceive why a
mtnstmn was here made between registered
./for vessels, as both were known to the
ws Of the United States. He wished some inem
r af the committee who reported the hill to ex
Wfe Toy/oc-observed, that, if congress adopted
*b« ides suggested by the gentleman (rom Virginia
(Mr. Burwell) :n which he (Mr. T.) conrarred, that
the.United States should protect their flag in its
•omtncree wi’.li whatever nation should holdout the
fatibdrif fellowship towards us, it seemed important
fo the nation that they should understand for what
t It was they had undertaken to adopt tins principle.
Would gen'h men hold out the same protection to a
vessel condemn.d and purchased by one of our cili
* in of France or England, or to a vessel
lilt sbrjjftd. n* l!;ey would to their own re^ieierrd
iwas indeed singular that gentlemen.
•present!d that portion of thepeopleof the
States who were the almost exclusive ship
.builders, should Ice! a hesitation in embracing this
proposition.
Mr. Quincy ronreirJfchat this wns a proposition
sthirh more properly’brlonged to the committee of
. Will errs and manufactures as a permanent coin
• Wyrcisl regulation j and indeed he h.xf understand
1 fhai that committee had this subject under rnnside
jritj^n. Some exception ought to be made in la
T. sea-letter vessels now ow ned by citizens of
liteji St iles fo ptcveiH the law having a retro
Spectirse operation.
Mr. Taylor said he should hyve no objection to
£n amendment which should make an exception in
favour pfsea letter vessels now owned by American
‘'Htiens. But >f the door were left open to all sea
"#r vessels, there origin he persons who would he
r willing toleud a-rom to the ships of Britain,
fttAM AfAnif lUtltir null.ili Wen.iid, ,1 I I_a ... I ■
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•Ope.rommiss.nos tor lending the American name.
Hewiahed not'to leave rdfcn for flic a!,use heieln
fere charged upon us of covering tureigu vessels with
Hpr character. ■*.
KrJIr. Livtrmor^tio ved to strike nut the fourth
■Mum., Ills reason was that in practice no bene
wW*I effect would he produced to our own inerch
W»t«, touch injury might result. Though in
thfh^y^tecred vessels of the Suited States were
fcoilt aripBtolly owned hv American rit:aen», yet
It’pTSctire registered aiid sea letter vessels were in
4 moved (• amend Uw
laut* U» the'following t:
i«»n
.■ Brwvjletf, >M MAhittg in Un» art ceoumwd
eball l»e ^construed at to prohibit the importation
,V* tifll front any port in Great-Bntain or trance
and tJveir depemlrn ics.’'
Air. I’ictinan moved t» ttrike out the whole eec
f•<***» because he conceived it utterly impossible to
carry it into effect if adopted, end it did not comport
with the declarations of gentlemen that they were
desirous of-doing away ell restriction on ourselves.
In case of a war between England and the powers
10 (h« north of Europe, prise cargoes might be pur
chased to great advantage hy our citizens in the
Baitick or or elsewhere; hut this bill would prohi
bit their importation, although British goods might
&e scarce here, and serious incnnvrniencies might
ensue from (heir scarcity. Whether such a traflick
would be of advantage or not, it would be almost
impossible to prevent.
Mr. P. mentioned an instance in which he him
selt l.ad lately seen goods with French marks an a
merchant s counter ; and that, when expressing his
surprize at seeing French goods here in the present
state of commerce, be had been told that they were
I-.ngl.sh goods marked by the British manufacturers
with French marks, with a view of facilitating
their introduction into countries where the impor
tation of Biittsh goods was not by the laws permit
ted. This section be also conceived would furlbci
tend to inert-ase the practice of smuggling,
Mr. Gvrdrnirr asked if it was the intention of
the committee t0 prohibit the importation of Bri
tish or French goods from neutral ports ?
Mr. Taylor. Uu ioubtedly it is.
Mr. Shrfti, remarked that this was a complicat
ed lull, and requir'd mature consideration. As the
i committee had progressed considerably, he moved
that it now rise to give an opportunity ta reflect at
leisure on its virions provision*.
Mr. Maeon saia he had no objection to give time
for ennsidetatiou, and that the committee should
rise for that purpose. But be hoped the committee
woo a to-morrow again resume the subject, & decide
.. riir,.V »» possible, AS the non-inter
cour«« lew at present in existence was daily evaded.
1 he eoinmittse rose, reported progress, and ob
tained leave to sit again.
I ui;so a v, January 9.
MEDITERRANEAN FUND.
The engrossed bill “ to revive and continue in
foree for a fuither time the first section of an art
entitled “ Anar; further to pratert the commerce
H"d stamen of the United States against the Bar
«tyfO***rst was read a third time and passed
without opposition.
AMERICAN NAVIGATION BILL.
The house again resolved itself into a committee
of the whole, Mr. D-sha in the Chair, on the bill
concerning commercial intercourse with Great Bri
tain and I'ranee and their dependencies, and for o
tiler purpose.
Mr. Pick man's motion yet under considera
tion —
Messrs. Pickman, Livermore, Potter and Iloss
supported, and M-s is. Macon, Fisk, Sheffey -no
1 ayloropposed ti e motion.
Those who supported the motion contended that
the 5th section of the bill, having for its object the
prohibition of the importation from neutral t oun
tries of goods the produce or manufacture of France
or England, end also the importation from the co
lonies of the belligerents of the produce or manu
facture of the mother countries, and vice versa, was
an expedient in practice, and could not heexen.ted;
that it would he impossible to distinguish betwe.ru
the product inns of different countries ; that it was a
notorious iact that large quantities of produce were
daily imported through St. Bartholomews, which,
being a small island, it was known was not capa
ble ot producing the quantities of produce exported
f.om it but that it was and always would be im
possible to distinguish between the produce of that
i-dand and those contigious to it; that salt for ex
ump.e, was an article, th» place of manufacture of
which could neV«, be ascertained ; that this section
would m t-iis resoect posse** the inconveniences of
to* nnu-mtercourse law, as it could not be carried
into execution ; that if one belligerent, vie. Great
litttnin, were to rescind its decrees, and intercourse
was to be renewed with the nation so doing, the
(.reduce of the colons of France might be inno
ceni.y purchased at British ports as the produce of
the alter; that there were certain articles of Fn
glisn manufacture, vis. low priced woolens, which
Al l.tilt nueute-a* EG 1 .
"!:d ihfir way into the country ; that this section
w;** ^ Wl*r wUh fl*e other principles of the hill,
which were said to be to remove the restrictions
lino, our own citiaens and impose them on the ci
ti^ns of France and Great Britain; that many e
vtls would result from this section which could not
now be liiresern. It was ul.n said that the princi
ple ol (emulating commerce on the ocean hy such
pin visions was absurd ; that it would be curious to
hear of Louis XVIII. issuing decrees for the g*.
vernment ol IVanor, which would be food for laugh
ter lor Napoleon ; that we should act equally ab
surdly in passing such prnvisians as these which
could not prove effectual; that the whole bill might
he a pretty thing in theory, hke the plan of a build
ing or chart of n road—hut wheu reduced to prac
tice, would amount to nothing.
J o this it was replied hy the opponents of the
motion tor striking out the 5th section, that the
whole bill might not be perfect, or might not com
prehend such n system as in a different state of the
couulry and of the world ought to be adopted : that
the .great objection to the first sections of the bill
had been that their provisions would probably be
met hy a countervailing policy on the part of the
e hgerents which might he carried into effect in two
ways—by restrictive regulations, or by additional
duties ; that this 5th sectioa had been incorporated
in the bill /*»r the express purpose of meeting the
first mode of retaliation, and of keeping the carri
age of our produce in the hands of our own march
ants ; Unit if the importation of tba manufactures
of Greai-BriiMio was permitted frem any nor
Whatever Oi her dependencies, si.e, haviog Canada
NoVB-5cotiU/ ,lU,i {.*r West-india islands, wtult
exclude our vessels from England, and send hei
immufjc lures to lltoie colonies. throw the whole
carnage mt». the hands of the British merchant.
a nd t
Mtmipcimir merchants toteenuie mere esa*
tm
. l_h® i:Fect ®f tbi* ,,c,if'n »«*«ld be, that
i..v.li many of bar manufacture* as she
10 bar cplonies, but that tl.ey could not bt
-■ ‘ tb|a section could not ba ex
Wf|U bejust in the situ
JR.;**:**® f. ■
**«• in #birh they now «rt «ritb the non-in
tercourse law; aud tbe question drnuld then corns
W«f« them either u» declare' war nr rel,»x even
fnnn tliis measure; that * subsequent Section of
lh« bill made provision* for the execution of the
5tb; that there *»» no doubt however but this
law would he better executed than the non-inter*
rourte law, because itprould not be the interest of the
merchant to violate it; that the argument ior strik
ing out the section, because it possibly might be
violated, would be equally strong if urged as a mo
tive for tbe abolition <>( all our revenue laws, be
cause they made a difference in duty on articles ex
ported from diderent places ; that, although some
articles could uot be identified with tbe places of
their grewih or manufacture, yet nineteen-twenti
eths could ; that it the section were to be struck
•ut, tbe bill it sell should be rejected, for it would
then be a milk and water measure indeed ; and if
the bill were to pass without it, all the commerce
ot the United Stales would be thrown into the hands
of Great Britain, as well as all the profit derived
from the transportation of it.
In the debate on this motion were mingled many
general remarks and observations on tbe principle
of the bill.
Mr. Styl>ert made a speech of some length ia
determined hostility to the bill, deprecating it as a
weak measure, and as one which would in fact be
submission to Great Britain.
Mr. Russ viewed it in the same light. lie said it
was a lutt to which gentlemen shut their eyes, but
of which they as well ns the people would be if they
*Me now convinced, that nothing short of ac
tual feice could give protection of commerce. In
stead ol such a milk and water measure he wished
t* s«e a provision authorising the President to fit
out the whole navy of the United States and send
it loses, and authorising the merchants to arm in
defence u( their lawful commerce.
Mr. Rutter was decidedly opposed to the bill; he
conceived it would produce a complete embargo and
nfeu-intercourse.
Mr. Shtffey thought it the Lest measure which,
unde, prevent circumstances, could be adopted, and
pledged himself at lire proper time to prove it.
Mr. Risk remarked that the committee of foreign
relations, in performing ns duty, had by n* means
prevented the adoption of any measures which
tire-army or navy committee might think proper to
Mr. Lnermore repeated his ides, expressed yes
terday, that the non intercourse law was not now in
force us to Great Bnluin ; because it had been le
suspended, and could not he renewed without
legislative sanction. lie did not blame the Presi
dent for having issued the proclamation of the 9th
August, for it was certainly proper that the fact of
the nou-tat.ficatlon ol the arrangement should be
known to all, that they might govern themselves
accordingly.
Tke committee rose at a little past 4 o’clock,
without taking* question on Mr. Hickman’s mo
non, reported progress, uod obtained leave to sit
again*
Wednesday, January 10.
This day Mr. Macon's bill relative to the com
mercial leguiations between ihe United States and
Gieat Britain and t*ranee and their dependencies
was before the house in committee of the whole,
Mr. Desha in the chair.
The bill was reported with a few verbal amend
meats, to ihe bouse, at two o’clock.
On motion ol Mr. Milnor, the further considera
tion of the bill was postponed until Friday next.
^Be^so^e^^bat^^hooseudjjiurncd^^
EXHIBITION.
To he seen at Mr. Mai.snk’s Gardens, from eight
o Clock in the mernini: until sunset,
THE ROYAL
TIGER & TIGRESS,
OC ASIA.
These curious animals, lately imported from Su
rat (in Asi«) are the first that ever reached any
part >.f this continent. On their arrival they were
not a year old. They are nine feet in length, and
three feet in height. Their crowns designate them
as royal, and peculiar to Asia. When full grown
their bulk is tremendous, much superior in size to a
Lion, and of prodigious strength. Their colour is a
bright yellow, beautifully marked with long atripes
of black, which run in the same direction as their
ribs, with others across their thighs. The Tigers
in Asia are the scourge of that country ; insidious,
blood-thirsty and malevolent, preferring human flesh
for their sustenance to that of wild beasts. They
lurk among the bushes, and bound on their prey ; if
they succeed and are undisturbed, they plunge their
heads into the bodies of the animals tip to their eyes,
as if it were to satiate themselves with blood, before
they tear them to pieces. It attacks the Lion or E
lephant, and is truly said to be the most powerful
animal iu the world.
The Ladies and Gentletneu of this borough and
vicinity, are respectfully invited to lose no time in
viewing these extraordinary animals, as there never
were, and probably never will be exhibited, animals
so wot thy of their attention. As the trouble and ex
pense of these animals are enormous, it is impossible
the keeper can tarry long in a place than while he
meets with encouragement; he therefore solicits
their speedy attention,
N. B. The cage in which the Tigers are confined
is very strong, so that no danger may be apprehen
ded from them.
|0* Admittance 31 cents for grown persons—
children half price. Jan. 13. 3
I HAVE FOR SALEi
At my Bake-tioutc* on Commerce^Street and Town
Point, <P
Bilot, Navy, and Ship BREAD,
_ of an excellent quality. \
t7* A constant supply at nil times of these arti
ck%.and on the oost liberal terms.
y - Stephen Harris,
PUBCtcK~LEnc;i:R "
MONDAY E^ixiNG, JAN. 1.0, ism
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Zxtract bf n ItUer frmm St. Croix, tu a gentleman
in thit country, doted 24th Dec. 180«).
We have account* from Martinique to day, by
which it would appear that the expedition, intended
against Guadeloupe, was in a state of great for
wardness, and it is expected would sail early in Ja
nuary. With the troops lately arrived there will
be 8 to CJOOO men, a force no doubt fully sufficient
to insure success—Our Lieut.Governour has gone t*
Martinique to join the expedition. Notwithstand
ing the vigilance of the British cruisers, and owing
to some of them being becalmed, two French fri
gates with troops succeeded in getting into a port on
the north side of Guadaloupc. The troops and pur£
ui the crews had hardly time to get on shore, ia
the utmost confusion, before a party of seamen,
headed by their officers from the British ships, land
ed aad stormed a strung battery.in the most gal
lant manner—and afterwards got possession of the
french frigates, which they blew up with the whole
of the baggage and stores on board. Capt. Camerou
of the sloop of war Hazard was killed in the act of
hauling down the French colours. There are two
other French frigates about these seas ; those four
frigates and a corvette, (that has been captured and
sent into Antigua full of troops) fell in with the
Junon frigate, taken some time ago by tte Hoiatio
—she did not surrender till after an action of
three hours, and having lost seventy of her men ;
she was such a complete wreck when the French
took possession of her that they were obliged to
sink her. Cupt. bhortland of the Junon fell m the
action.
“ Tller* tave been reports received thraugb dif
ferent quarters of admiral Collingwood having ta
ken and destroyed the Toulon squadron ef sixteen sail
of the line, flour plenty at y dollars per^arrel—•
ilum and Sugar very high.”
The Senate of the State of Maryland has reject
ed the hill from the Mouse of Delegates for taxing
the B.nks and other monied Mediations, for the sup*
port of publick schools.
We had not room for the arguments of the differ
ent speakers in the dehate upon Mr. Macon’s bill,
now Called the American navigation uct; a sketch j
is all that wecoulugive. We were not a little gra
tified to find that some of those who had been tha
warmest advocates for restrictions on commerce,
have oandidly confessed their eoftyiction of the per
nicious effects of those measures upon our own com
merce, and to the advantage of those nations intend
ed to l.e injured. This bill we are assured will pass
ihe house of representatives by a large majority;
hut that the senate will reject it, Mr, Gilet baviog
derlared against it, but of this there is uo certainty*
Something will be done, as it is now very general
ly ai knowledged that there is no non intercourse,
or non-importation as respects Great-Briuia, tbosa
1 tws having been repealed, and which’Mr. Liver
more, more than once insisted, and was not contra
dicted. Of this opinion it would seem also is tha
executive, for it is well understood that no secure*
have been made, which wa understand was by or
ders fram the treasury department. If then thosa
laws are repealed, they can only get again intoforce,
by being re-enacted, which will require the assent
of the house of representatives ; the senate may
therefore be under the necessity of passing Mr. Ma
cons bill, or of consenting to let matters remain as
they are.
The utmost uaanimity we are assured will pr«,
vail in all the measures of defence recommended in
the president’s message. The naTa! and military
armaments will he completed to their full extent, at
far as the legislature can go.
.vjanatin, continues th*
subject of attention; it is asserted that he has alreal
dy resigned, and that his successor is named. Tb*.
gentleman who is named being generally considered
as incompetent to the duties of the office, induce*
manv to doubt the whole story, but we are confi
dently assured, that whatever mistake may exist a*
to the successor, that Mr. Gallatin (if he ahead*
has not) will resign, before I be 1st day of March
In our paper of the 27th ultimo, in noticing th*
sxpalsion and re-election of Jons Clary, w*
stated that he was from the ceunty of Pasquotank.
We were mistaken, or the paper from which w*
copied made the mistake; ha is from Perquima*’*
comity, North Carolina.
FsiE5.cn Diplomacy—I* our Uat wo copied
from the Boston Palladium, * note addressed by
Mr. C'met to our government, aod this day repub.
lish tbo celebrated communications of tb« present
French minister, MonMf’yrren. It is to be hop
ed that the caudid rea* will compare these doru*
ments, (which we have republished verbatim, with,
out the omission ofone word), with Mr. Jackson’*
correspondence, and if be does not find more insult
in-on* lino, und in different lines, fhau is to be found
ia all the letters of Mr. Jackson, U»«n we do not
understand the meaning of words. Tb? mote into.
lent paungrt are mhrked tn ItaTicks. After pro*
nouocinj the trade to St. Domingo, (nhivirprodn.
cad the«| communications) and crimiml,
Mou*. Tarxe*u rite* an ironltuj 'isiecr at the p/e ten