The Virginia gazette — Williamsburg [Va.], 1779-03-05 00:00:00, page 2

intimate; however, something os neglect, by saying, thattlfesisignal so'r
fiiling into theVictory't wake, and for fonning the line, hztl been flying
lrotn three o_clock till eight.
' Mr.T.Luttrellwngoingto pursue the th trod by the two Atlmisall.
when Lord Mulgrave calling to order. an czul'mg thc motion to he read,
put an end to the dignffion.
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Lord North rose to resute the ehnrge of emheuling. He premised,
that the vote of 4]. per man. elways provided for four different ohiccts ;
for the men- waget, the ordinmee of the shi , the Vlctullling. and wear
and tear; andthe full sum musi alway. hei ued from the treasury to the
ldmiralty. When, by disarming or other meam, the number of hand!
in the navy is reduced, all the saving! that ensue are not returned to the
treasury, but : plied to navel purposes; by which the navy debte are
. diminished; en consequently, so much money in saved to the nation, ::
it would be obliged to raise, to pay of!" those debte, which ere discharged
by this saving. The honourable Gentlemen might therefore say, that,
inttud of 4oo,oool. having been emhe-uled in the year 1771, the nation
had been so much in poeket; u tht sum being laid out in building. or
otherwise, had prevented : call on the up]: for money, to lnswet the
ends for which thzt sum hid been expen . He did not blame the lion.
. Gentlemen for making the enquiry; he had aright to do itsnor did he
do the wheel: of government hie opposition. The fly in the fable
he}: right to be on the couch w ], n it thought proper to he there;
but did not for all that, dog it, or impede the rogrestof the nm'ege. .
Mr. Welhore Ellu defended the same tide at the quemon, from
made of proceeding in the publiek olim. -
Mr. Temple Lutuell remained still dlfl'atitsied.
Mr. Charlel Fox eontended, tht, notwithttanding the halk of ed
miln'flrztion, we had been inferior to the French at see, -in every quarter
of the glede. ln Ameriu, we had been flowed so, before the unvai of
Adminl Byron; in the Mediterrlnean we were so ltill ; in the ehmnel,
we certninly had been far inseiior to France, when Admin] Keppel un
lent out with no more thzn twenty sail of the line. :! a time that there
were my seven in Brett water: ln lndia, he would he gin! to heir
from t Minilkry how we flood: lnthe West lndies only, we hod been -
said robe su etior; end yet, thct'e the illtnd of Dominiu hnd been taken
from us. Je would nevertheless give hit hearty essent to the motion, if
it were even son gre tter number ot men, as he would mishnothing thn
t.
_ could put hie country in such : pokure of defence n should seeme it
lgsieind an ettptk whatsoever.
silord ]Vzuignve held, that thzre were circumshneee where genenl lawe
"7 could not, and perhaps ought not to be compiied with; lnd-a linessntould
be drawn betwixt ealamity and eritnimlity. ls the exerted effort- of
' thie'eountty could not make it equal to the enemy, nought the- to set
our dilhefl'es down to the account of mitsortt- end ezhnity, \ud not lay
themsiat the door: of Mmioiltratiun. ' si
-- "Mr. T. Townshend took a , in a warm mennes, the indignity offered
\ , wepe House, in the yerson of . Luttrell, when Lord North conquered
' lin'd to the 07 in the fable.
Mr. Rule, closed the debate, with no lcmntos the desencelese late of
lead, and the eausial r-tiom going on et l-hspeniola, where there
detwenty thousand len form. , . si _ __ _
Mr. T. Lutuell got up again, and having mentioned Steily and Egypt,
Lad Mnlgnve laughed; which Mr. Laurel] observe}. send, he had
_ ' notmveued theNonh Pole, nor kepteompanyw'nh been; he hadoften
-heude horse laugh, and heardonethen; though he ought a well have
* usiken in denonintion from lnothet nium].
Lord Mulgnve wan happy to have furnished the lion. Gentlemen with
" — silk Wnity to eaten his redieulm sudden; end, to keep the non.
' Gentlemen in humour, he would appoint hunt dnneing unlu- to the
. but; he mi mount him in he letted, either it an horse of an use,
" withnthei under any ap rehen on that he would wish to monuhim
* on the uimsifi thlt spnngs tom both (the mule.)
si - ' Mr. Bullet, to satitfy Mr. Luttrell, relative to the motion he unde
* " on Tnefday. for the lad weekly returns to the Admira_ty, infon'ned the
eonminee. that in the month of Novemher, these were in lade] ply on
bond hit Majefly't ships of war, 77,ooo seamen ineluding mation.
The queflton was put : quuter after seven o'elock, end quod to
without any oppofition; a well a the next for_ graming 4]. pet- man
permnth, for thine!) months, for the pay of fand 77,ooo nen.
Mr. Bullet next mond. that : sum not exceeding 4]. per man
month, he gnnted for support of the men, for 17795 which, being
nunimottfly lgreed to, the eommittee bmke up, and the House imme
diately adjotqned.
s ! 23. lt it imagined the next newt of the Brefi fleet we may have,
will their junction with the Spanish before Gibraitar; nor wtll it be
surpeising to many politieiam if that onee important fortrese should
be taken by a kind of. so it were, pre aratory to : tnputite pacifieation
between those .old friends and alliet, great Britain, France, and Spain.
it it settled that our ermy shall he sung istbr) us, all the winter in New
York, whill our Miniflers are hard at work to patch up : peace with
France and Spain, which, ifthcy can accomplish. they will call a glniou
um) . We ate assured, from : person who hn an opportunity of
knowing thesae't, that mpufiu [is! is now at h;gh at the Court of F rance,
as it wail the corrupt reign of (.harlet ".
The ezmpt in the late war ltood a very severe art of the winter, by
which : great number ofmilitia lolt thetr livee. Pl'he foreign troops who
' suffered lull from the inelemency of the weather, remained in Coxheath
till the: Christmat.
. We ne informed, that in the course of the next seffiom of Parliament,
:: motion will be mlde for leave to bring in a hill for the better regulating
'lh. militil ofthe city of London, by whzch they will be entbled always
'ctto bring into the field :ooo men, for the service of government on any
'emetgeney.
' Gum] Sir William "owe, the modern fahiun of the age, spende hit
time nboutthe mighbourhood of Richmond, .: much unknowing and
unknown, either tn the fashionable o: politieal world. is it he had been
(eaten! to Ameriea to bring home aurgo of Yankey potatoet, instead of
slritifi hoten.
' ly I letter from Amlerdam we lum, that two person- wer'e lately
Pp up}! Dmkitk, upon . snsyieision of being spiu. One of them it
an lrishman, the other an Englishmm. Sc'VCl'Tt! letters were found upon
them, which proved that thcy4tmusmiuv-ti tu England the melt minute
detail of the progress ptsi their fotnfimnor. ,. X'hc-j Were discovered by ;
French woman, who lived with the inlhmnn as a milhtss, i.. the full:.w.
ing mennes: As he took the greatest preczt-tmn tu pievcnt .1 discm'crssv,
he never let her go into the.:ovm alone u'ncre his ;:ctpus wu-c, and to
which he wrote; :: circumhncu Which c:;-.t.-_'J iru Cillsiuitiy Iu much. that_
'she actually pickcd hie pocket one morning ot they kc), i'Li't'l'l: ;:c awoke,
and examined :tll hit Plptsl. H )WCVH', nating ready a x'si-_z.:-: of affec- .ss
tion for him, she kept the secret till thsi-y had stttuztne'], Wine.". m ti-c mad
nest of pasiion she informed againlt hlllh They wen: both tent ufl under
I sh'ong gunrd to Paris. - .
A private letter from Petershurg, says. that the Empsi-csi' has issued an
edifl, sorhidding her subject: to give am" .sstiiimcc to the French, hy
suPplying them with hemp, or my other :mc!e lha' lS wsimtcd tus their
shipptn . &c. The same letter slyt, that the empsu-ct 'asizs :hsclutely
eonclu ed and ratisiedn treat with Great Britain, wheiu-z li.: hat agreed
to sit ply hie Briunnick Msiqcfly with 15,ooo troops, whusih :.retohe in
the was by the latter endosjanuzry; aml altsio twenty fine of hattte'ss
ships. which are to be employed :gainl the French or against the Ameri
elm, in which ever service they may be molt wanted. '1 hii treaty, the
letter sayn, has given somueh nmbuge tothe French, that their Ambzs- '
sadour wn pn 'ng to return home.
Noe. 18. hue! me). 'ssoe assured, thzt'z certain great persomge
had formed : refo tition within himself to dtsgchc a gin: naul' com
mudee on hie nrriul fM America, and hence it was. that when the
Adminl plied it to Windsor castle, be only asked lum " how Admiral
Bym did!" end Iestthe noble Lord abruptly, lt il also : 58, we
have from the bed nenotity, that two several cahinet eou'neih were held
the two fellning day: to consider of the propsiety of the above coolnest,
when-it m perhlpe pendentielly lesolvtu to advise the K—g to sue,, .
et leek nen, and accordingly the noble Lord has since been very '
grw'ssou y ndnined inch the dmwmg room. _ , ' ss
Althe Bsbeeof Pntflia m coming one day into the Kin pus
the sitl wed- the Monnreh addressed to him wete, " Idno 7:an i
tro- yo- "ny nephe-f'siethel'nne' e was amnzed. an began to k
dtsml'u that speed. when hie Majesty gave him the greatest (nis- '
faction. 4!) adding. "ct-Nosi ! no longer look upon you :: my nephew, i
but a "m so.. Who hndone every thing ( could hue t'one myself, '
lod wbtsi ' hee New from the molt experienced General." '
87 to; w jufl returned here on hie parole from
General Wafiq—W but let! from New Yorlt, we learn thnthe 5
Muse,. weu bli- helk order, end highest spirip, daily prepeei
themselvu foe the royal my. :: C.:fae did hie [tery wmion wi
tbeJWHpE-pof Po-peyon t'n: plain-osPba-[cliq end eddi
withal. ,thlu't multo nen! received olltninn ntNew York when he si'
that hete, the Cliuton, withoutarcmsorcement of upon me.
bwfi-g.
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'l' he Amerieane, though extnlld for (ages, are surely the mal added " ss
you in the wotld or they mutt have a very contemptihle upmion yf
un erflanding of all the nation- of Europe; otherwise they never,
have assigned a: : reason for not tteating with the commisionen fd
ratisieetion of the Gautog- convention, en argument which chide., ,
elathes with the one they danced, for not ceeding to the terms pro _
by the eomnisstonm. The Congret'o will not treat lbout thectliberty of
Burssoyne'e army. unless the tre-ty sighed by Genenb Burgoyne end
Gztel [hall.he fist} rztifted by the Parliament of England; end the silk
same Congtese retused to reeetvethetenm pr sect by Pldnment new;"
to the amelet of mation, because a futute :rhnment not being bound
by the acts of any preceding Puliament, it might, at . convenient W'
mni'ty npeal the law, by virtue of which the commtflie'nm were sent otttl
will : Parliament be left liable to teseind : utitieation of a treaty, then
to nbtogatea law? — ,
The land forced employed in North Ameriea in the year 1774, w'en
68845 in 1775, they wete tt,at9z in 1776, they increased to 43," ;
and in 1777, they mounted to 4l,616; out of those we have lolt !: ddsstih
end desettion t9,3lt;- isonen, 5336; and 4639 sick and noon .
The nen] force for tsi nbo'e sour yeeen um, 83 men of war and "ded
vessele, whose eompliment of'men lmounttd to 123337. out of which he
have 1004315, besidee sitkt "shu- we see th'" Amesiea had been, it
the commeneement of the present year, the grave of no less than "A,,
seamen nnd soldien, without reckoning the increase to the deed lit! durin
thit ear. ' -
The account: ds the treasurer: of the navy, for the lest 17 ear:. arc
notto be liquidated. Those os Mr. George Grenville, and rd Bat.
rington, are not settled. The sum of 37,oool. remains in'the handle!
Lotd Howe, unaeeounted for; end the sum of uzpool. in those of the
executon of the late SirGilbet-t Elliot.
Now. as. All the tranlpotte returned from New Yotk are ordgud .,
be put in immediate readiuet't fot- see, and an additional number to be
takenjnto service, sufficient to cury 15.ooo British and 15000 foreip
troopz, which are to be in readinest tor embaskation the first of Februaty,
which number (with the troops now in Ametica, by- return: to the "u
office, being )4,064) will compose an army of 75064. The above fleet
willbe escorted to Ameriea by ao ship: of the line now in readiness, and
.it to rema in in America, thh a number of frigatet and bomb-ketehee,
'to eo-operate with the land forces at occasion may require.
England hat long been charged by fureignets, as well it by its own
writen, with being the most cteJuious ptuple upon earth; but surely}
if the publick at large are to be judged of by its present Govemment,
this charge not only falls to the ground, hut the contrary, .that of in.
eredulity, may he set up in its plzce; tus though they have been earl
foretold that they would loose Ametica Ly tnxiug Is, they perseveted ti !
they let! it; and though they have been told the West lndia island: will
follow (and have had already an earnest of this prediction by one ofthem
being taken) they Rill persist in carrying on the war with redoubld
vigour, redoubled expense, and redoubled ineredulity. '
Burnt? of altern- jsiram Livetpool, NW. 13,
" A merchant of thit city having lately a paeket of pen of cou
sequence coming stom the West lndiet, the ship which ght it m
taken and carried into France. T he merchant wrote to his eotresponden"