The Gazette of the state of South-Carolina — Charles-town [S.C.], 1784-03-04 00:00:00, page 2

LONDON, December 12, 1783.
HOUSE of COMMONS.
VOLUNTEERS of IRELAND.
YESTERDAY Mr. Ord, as Chairman of
the Committee of Supply, brought up the
Report of the resolutions come to by the Committee
the preceding day upon the Army Estimates, the
fame having been read at the Table the firft time,
and the question put, that the resolutions be read
a second time,
Mr. Huffey rose and Taid, he wished that the
noble Lord at the head of his Majefty„'s Exche
quer had been present, to have given him some ex
planation on a point that appeared to him to be of
no small importance. Before so large a sum of the
public money, as that now to be voted for the pay
ment of the army, had been ordered by the autho
rity of the House, he should have been glad to have
heard whether any and what means were intended
to be proposed to Parliament for the better checking
the public expenditure, agreeable to the tints sug
gested with regard to the inadequacy of the present
Exchequer as to that essential and necessary purport',
by the Commidioners of Accounts in their Tenth
Report. Those Commiffion^rs, he said, had done
themselves very great credit, by the pains they
had taken to investigate the state of the various
Public Accounts that had hiherto come under
their consideration, and the accuracy with which
they had reported the refalt oftheir investigations
upon each particular fubjed of their enquiry, but
it yet remained for some essentially ufeful measures
to be built on their Reports. Their Tenth Report
clearly pointed out the inefficacy of the Exchequer,
as to any ipeedy and real check of the public expen
diture, and yet in that very tenth Report, it was
Rated, that no less a fumthan 19,000!. was receiv
ed by the Exchequer in one year on fees on the
issues of money for payment of the army. There
fore, as he believed it very rarely happened, that
when money was once voted and issued, the public
ever got any of it back again, noth withstanding the
sum iffeed was larger than the application of it on
the Public Account, he had hoped before the vote
for so large a sum, as that then under eonfideration
passed the House, to have heard from authority;
that it was intended to adopt a better and more
effectual mode of checking the public expenditure
than that, which had been declared by the Commit
fioners of Accounts, and which experience proved,
to be totally inadequate to thefurpofe. Mr. Huffey
said farther, that he had no wish to stop the prefect
vote, nor should he take the, sense of the House
upon it, though he had hoped & smaller force would
have been deemed fufficient for a Peace EHablifh
merit.
The firft Resolution of the Committee was then
agreed to When that for the two battalions of
Hanoverians came to be proposed, Sir Joseph Maw
be, rose, and Wrongly objected to it. Sir Joseph
went over all his objections of the preceding day,
and added new arguments to enforce them. After
spending fomexime in reasoning, he said, the foreign
troops ought to be sent home immediately; and if
Ministers did not fend them home without delay, he
begged the House to confider him as Handing
pledged to move an Address to his Majesty for that
purpose.
While Sir Jofedh was on his legs, Mr. Flood
walked into the House, and when the Speaker put
the Question “ that this Resolution be agreed to ”
—Mr. Flood role and laid, he had not been present
in the Committee the preceding day ; that he came
down, and observing not above twenty Members to
be in the House, he took it for granted, that no
thing of any importance was likely to be brought
. on, he therefore went away again. But he had
since understood, that a conversation of a very seri
ous nature had taken place, and that the delicacy of
the situation of Ireland, on account of the Volun
teers, had been urged as a rezfon for proposing so
large a number of troops as 17,483. fA general
cry of No, No, No. No fob thing!) Mr.
Flood corre&ed his expression and said, he had read
in the paper of the day, that an oflenfible character
an honorable General high in rank and fixation, had
aligned at a reafen for voting so large a number of
men, that there was a delicacy in the situation of
Ireland. Having so lately left that country 2nd
being perfectly aware that there was nothing of de
licacy in the fixation of Ireland, much iefs any
thing arising from die Volunteers or their intentions,
he thought it his duty to take the earliest opoortu
nity of calling for an explanation of a matter, which
if it had ready passed as he had read in the paper,
might, if unexplained, produce consequences, that
every man, a friend to both countries, mud' wish
ffiouH never happen. Ireland, he fail, ^ s l ova |,
and rhe Volunteers of Ireland the loyalleft of the
loyd. They were the firft gentlemen of the coun
try, men who deserved the mod confidence, since
they had the largest flake in Ireland s men ofeftat,
as meu of family, as men of integrity, as m
Our readers will certainly be entertained with a
few extracts from a Pamphlet lately published in
London, under the title of “ Observations on the
Commerce of the American States with Europe and
the Weft Indies, including the several Articles of
Import and Export."
The Pamphlet was published since the present
British Ministry came into Office, and is dire&ly
pointed againtt the A& of Parliament lately propos
ed, for giving the United States certain Commer
cial Privileges.
THE author, who seems to be well
informed, enumerates the articles we
require from Europe, and those we get
from the Weft-Indies. He alledges, that
much more than half of the goods we
shall import from Europe must be of
British manufacture, and that of the re
maining goo ds which are manufactured
in France or the Netherlands, Germany,
Sweden, Russia, or in the Eaft-indies, the
greatest part of what we shall import
mult come through Great-Britain, because
our merchants are too poor to make im
mediate payment for the goods they want,
and no merchants, except the British, are
able or willing to trust them. He ob
serves, that we import little else from the
Welt-Indies than rum and sugar. That
we mutt take our rum from the English
inlands, and our sugar trade will be divided
between them and the French. The
reader may amuse himlelf in considering
how we are to, pay for all these goods, in
the mean while we shall inform him how
we.are not to pay for them. Weare not
to be fuffefed to carry any of our produce
to the Weft-Indies, and it seems to be
intended, that the British should save us
the trouble of carrying much of it to Eu
character, as men of .public virtue ! Did anv man
lumped the Volunteers of Ireland of evil designs ?
id any man imagine, they meant to moled the
?' " e ' r ° wn country, or to didurb the rCpofe
0 this ? If such was the real feeling of an individual,
et that individual stand forward, and avow his4en
timents. If it were the femiment of a body of men,
et the body of men declare they thought so. The
Volunteers of Ireland had given ample proof of
their loyalty, ample proof of their claim to public
confidence! They, had flood forward in the hour
of difficulty, they had undertaken the cause of their
country in the moment of danger ! They had pro
tested Ireland from the invasion of a foreign enemy,
they had supported its internal police in a manner
never known before. To make the delicacy of the
situation of Ireland on account of the Volunteers,
an argument for proposing to maintain a larger mi
litary establishment in Great Britain than was other
wise necessary, was to advance a flagitious falfhood,
in order to persuade that House, to depart from
their due attention to ceconomy, and to incur a
lavish and needless expence. The Volunteers of
Ireland had, he laid, uniformly afted with the most
zealous regard for their Sovereign, and his interests,
and he had at that time in his pocket an Address
from the Volunteers of Ireland to his Majesty, re
plete with Sentiments of the most Ready loyalty,
and the most ardent affection. If by implication,
Therefore, the Volunteers of Ireland had been re
garded with an eye of jealousy and diftraft, they
were treated unjustly and injufioufly. He meant
not to fay that they had been treated so in that
House; but if they had been treated so by any body
of men, either there or elsewhere, in that country,
or in any other, they had been treated with unme
rited difrefpeA, and with unmerited inattention.
He knew that their conduct had been calumniated in
Ireland, and their motives mifeohftrued and Rig
matized. It was not the sense of the nation, how
ever, which had been declared against them; it was
the voice only of Borough-mongers, and felf inters
efted individuals. Mr. Flood went on Tor some
time in this drain of eulogy on the Volunteers of
Ireland, and at length recurred to his original ar
gument, that it was highly necessary, if fech a plea
for voting so large an eftabfilhmettt, lhad hot been
used, as the delicacy ofthe fitu^ion tff Ireland,
that it should be known;; and thift^ft 'had, the
.grounds on which it had been advanced, Should be
avowed andekplained. The^point was, he said, of
material importance to both countries; as a friend,
therefore, to Great Britain and Ireland, he had
thought it his duty to bring it to the toieft expla
nation possible.
(To be continued.)
rope. The British Weft Indies are to be
Supplied chiefly from Canada and Nova-
Scotia'
I he lumber of thefe'coloniestfays
the author, v.z. Canada and Nova-
Scotia) is the cell in America. Some little
time may be necessary before a full supply
of all the articles d y can produce will oe
ootamed) but will be better for this
country to allow a bounty v u lumber
conveyed in Birafli veffe s from Canada
and Nova-Scotia to the Weft-Indies, for
a limited time, than to facrifice our carry
ing trade ; allo a bounty on bu Iding ships
in Canada and Nova-Scotia,co be employed
in the fifhery or carrying trade to the Well-
Indies; allo a small bounty for a limited
time on making wheat into flour in Cana
da, 40 encourage mills there, and to fup
piy the ^merits with bread and bifeuit.
cinder the article of corn, it has ap
peared how amply Canada can supply
dur inlands. It appears also, that no part
bi the world furnilhes great: r advantages
tor flip-building. The Oak of Canada is
heavier and much more lading than that
0 New-England. In fheat, it is unques
tionably a fact, that Nova-Scotia and Ca
nada will toon become capable, with a
little encouragement, of fupHying our
elands with all the /hipping, fifh, timber
and lumber, of every kind, and with
mill or Taft Tories, with flour and several
other articles they may w?.n~; a d Bermu
da flipping may supply the inlands with
such articles as will be wan:ed from the
southern states, viz, Indian corn, rice,
^nd the little tobacco that may be necess
ary in addition to what is grown in the
Weft-Indies, for the negroes." Farther
©n he fays,
" It appears from what has been stated,
'that there will be no difficulty with refpe&
to lumber and provisions, except in the
beginning, and that may be obviated.
British flipping muff go from our inlands
and colonies to the American flares, and
cannot be refufed admittance on the fame
footing as in other foreign countries. We
should not admit ino our ports in Britain,
the produce of one of the American dates
in the flopping of another, unh fs they
allow the Shipping of Canada and Nova-
Scotia allo to Carry tie produce of the
states. If they should refute it they will
lose the market of our ifhids, of which
they might always have a ihare through
our lhipping. But no mandate of Co'n.
grefs will prevent thole of the dates; whose
interest it is, from Applying us with any
article we want.
In competition with the American ftates,-
Canada ar i Nova-Scotia will have many
exclusive advantages. We mud reserve
to our remaining colonies those to which
they are entitled. The inhabitants of
Nantucket and the fifhing o>ad will mi
grate to Nova-Scotia for the lake of the
superior advantage of our fisheries, and
from other parts of the American dates
for different advantages, which British
fubje&s should exclusively have; but if
we do not reserve those advantages to
our colonies, not content with the irrepa
rable and for ever deb ding facrifice of the
loyalists and their property to the rebels
we continue to hold out a premium f,r
rebellion. But if our remaining colonig
are put on a proper tooting nothing could
be morv dedruciive to their interest than
a reparation from us by revolt or coMq?et.
It will not be an easy matter to bine
the American states to ad as a nation,
they are not to be feared as such by us.
Their climate, their daples, their manners