Norfolk gazette and publick ledger — Norfolk [Va.], 1810-04-30 00:00:00, page 3

Qmgrm of the Uuittd States.
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
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■*:l- Monday, Ayt'd 83.
Mr. Smilie laid before the house the proreeed
borg(| of the legtelatur* of the *Ut# at Pennsylvania
on the proposition ot the state of Massachusetts tc
•mend the constitution by limiting the power to lay
embargoes, including the unanimous decision ot
both branches of the legislature against the amend*
Kent.
EXPENSES OE FOREIGN INTERCOURSE'.
Mr. Upturn said be had some time ago laid be
forl the house a resolution calling for information
respecting the expenses of foreign intercourse, anti
for an account oi ti.e manner m winch monies ap
propriated to that object had been applied ; but ow
ing to a suggestion that the information he wished
for ftouHt’be obtained by a committee already ap
pointed, the resolution was ordered to lie on tbe ta
ble. He now held in his band a resolution going
snore directly to his object, lie said he had aoder
atood that a sum of money to the amount of 4000
dollars had been advanced to a Mr. Short, as mi
nister at St. Petersburg, although his nomination
bad not been confirmed. Now if this was tbe case,
be wanted to know the fact, and also from what
fund the money had been applied. He therefore
moved the following resolution f
RtsoluJ, That the secretary of tbe treasury he
directed to l^y before the bouse a statement of any
•urn or sums of money for outfit or compensation to
HFPIfam Short, as mmisteror agent from tbe Lnit
•dSlat's to the court of St. Petersburgh, whether
deceived directly from the treasury, or from any of
the bankers of the United States m Europe, and
from what fund any such sum has been drawn, to
gether with a statement of the authority or ..tithor:
tles under wbr h the same may have been received,
bo iar as tha evidence exists m the treasury depart
ment.
Mr. Oholsna enq-ired of therhalrmartof the : nm
mittee of investigation whether this matter hail
come before that committee.
Mr. Shelley replied that the enquiries of that
committee were li n'ed to tbe period betwixt the
4th March, 1801 and the ^lh of March, 180<h' He
understood that the 1 .vp'-nditui >■ on thi3 account was
not made until after the 4 b March, I80y, and
therefore did not come within the power of that
committee.
Mr. Piikin said he hcred there would be hut on*
mind on this subject, lie slid he hadstated the ri
cher day that Mr. Short h id received money for
bis mission from the hoiidn of one of the bankets in
Europe. If it was fac‘, lie said the hous. ought
.certainly to have the evidence of it before them.
Mr. \\. Alston said he had no objection to the re
solution. Il it would give gentlftron the least gra
tification, he said he would State the facts as Ur as
wntbm hi* knowledge. Tbe Hie President hud ap
pointed Mr. Short minister to Rossis. Some bank
«r-in’Europe bad advanced about §5000 to Mr.
Short. Everyone who understood the gut pit,
most be satisfied, that the secretary of slate h id ii
r** *ed the banter, who had money subject i is
control, to pay that su et to Mr. Short. There w !4
no evidence at the treasury of the paymetn, j'. the
returns of the b>ina. Jf the money hah ie-n p.uh
Wifhout authority, It would unquestionably not be
•Unwed by the accounting officers of the Trta
«w>.
««*• v|»oiw» saia mil aunougn the D__
^enueman s
infonnation might be very satisfactory to himself,
be was "desirous to have it otfirially from the pro
per department and therefore wished his resolution
to pass.
The resolution was agreed to without a division.
Mr. Upham said he had another resolution which
be wished to offer to the consideration of the bouse.
Wl wished to know the numhsr and names nf con
aols of tbs United States residing at foreign ports.
This would be valuable information to J1 the nati
on and to the representatives of the people particii
larljf—anJ he hoped there would be no objection to
thtfollowing resolution :
Resolved, That the President of the United States
■b* requested to cause to be laid before this house a
•tsteuieni of the several consular or commercial
•gents having authority under the U. Stales 10 fo
r»ipn,t»«n!rif».
On the suggestion of Mr. Tallmadge, the follow
ing addition was made to the resolution: “ together
with the salaries or compensation, if any, allowed
ts tbsmgesper lively.”
Mr. ftbea moved further to amend the resolution
by a doing to the end of it the words “ and whether
any of them have been engaged in procuring aud
disposing ol British licenses to trade.”
Mr. Upham * iid his ohjeet was merely to obtain
• eonv nieni document for the use of the members,
and he did not expect to to have attached to it any
thing about the murder nf Pearce, the attack on the
Chesapeake, British impressments, or vb*t not,—
lie had no sort of objection to the enquiry, but it
was not fair to attempt In tack such a rider to bis
resolution.
Mr. Gold called upon the gentlems.ii fmm Ten
nessse to refttn on the leudency of his own amend
ment. It would imply that the government had
continued consul# abroad with a knowledge that
they had been concerned in this traffic.
Mr. Quincy reprobated the amendment as going
to reflect censure on rue consular agents gem rally,
'b* do which be c«uld n<»t consent.
Mr. Rhea Said there was no sneciltck o'jedin
the resolution first proposed, ami his amendment
weal to give it one. H* said he had seen a great
deijjJ »n the newspapers about this trade in foreign
licences, and he wished to get to the bottom of the
business, that if our consuls were innocent of be
ing concerned in it tl*cy might be justified to the
world.'
Mr.Gholcen moved that the resolution lie on the
table.
Mr. Pitkin hoped it would not lie on the table.
He was desirous of knowing who were the officers
vf tiie United States abroad, and whether they rt
ceived salaries* and, if so, whether those salaiies
were indeperident of their expenses, for be had seer
in *oaccount railed for by the senate, respecting
the expenses of intercourse with the Uarbary paw
CM, that they bad eharged the United Stales with
d^tfeir little expenses. Till he saw this state
■pbt, hs jaid he had no conception of the manner
M whirhithwfuBds *f the V. Slate* Were used in the
Mediterranean.
Air. lhm» said that the mfoimatiun which wu
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AoifUmrJit tgfute thehouse,whlfiL tfuuW q**
Thf ranttftc residing abroad were not luMtad a ,
Mttber i#r place, there bring un sue b limitation by
kw^ H« waiagainsttbfprupoMSl •nxtHiiitentv*
CodV no piupositiony be asked, however labor
rational, b« brought forward without splicing sotue
proposition of this kind to it f And woufci the house
pet it m a form which implied that (lie president
otigbt t«rb» impeached ? Had any of W e agents
the United State* been employed ia» tbit manner,
and bad the president suffered them to remain in ol
tice f He bad not done bis duty ti.env He hoped
the bouse would never agree to such a proposition
on so slights suggestion.
Mr. Tallm idge followed Mr. Dana on the same
side of (he question.
The motion to lie ob the table was withdrawn,
arid Mr. Rhea’s motion to amend was negatived.
The resolution was agreed to.
On motion of Mr. Rhea,the unfinished business
of the hank hill was ordered to Tie on the table.
Mr. Randolph culled for the consideration of bis
motion that the New England Mississippi Land
Company have leave to withdraw their memoiial.
Th* house refused now to take up the sal jeet, 34
to 33.
LOAN BILL.
vn mouon 01 wir. w .Alston, the House resolved
ileeff into a committee of the whole, Wr. Pitkin in
the chair, oft (he bill authorising a loan tor a sum
ot money not exceeding the amount of the principal
cn' the public debt rcmibnrteable during the year
1810.
In the discussion which took place on this btll
there v «is no objection to the principle of it. Every
gefiflepicn wJio a poke assented to the propriety of
pluring <u the disposal ot the government a sum of
money lolly adequate to meet the appioprialioiis au
thorised by hi* !nr the pn&ent year.
Mr. Lima wished t.» ascertain the precise amount
of tlie pn.inpal ol tne debt reimbursenble during
the ye«r iMO, with 1 view ol inswtlug the Sum in
the body of Uie bill.
Some diilerebce of opinion appealed to exist as
to ti.e evict amount of the principal rtimburseable.
The sum annually apuliraMe to tiie payment of the
public debt IS eight millions of dollars. The sum
lelt after paying i.s interest of it lor the year, is
annually applies io the extinguishment of the
principal. The.exact amount ol interest payable
on the ptiolii at during this year not being known,
there wardin' uity in ascertainingthe ex act amount
of priucipa. .<o nbursca: le,
Ths su n 4,800,oOO dollars was mentioned.
Mr. I>cn.i moved to amend the bill so as to au
thoris- a loan “ not exceeding 4,800,OuO dollars,
bein;, tiie ai '"uut of the principal reunbursaable,
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j. s nntti.-a was supported by themover, Messrs,
‘..-i-i. SneiiVy, Quincy, llpham, Tailmadge and
k > en, and supported by Messrs. Bacon, W. A1
St- n :J Montgomery.
I e argtimenu in favour of the motion Were ge
n. rally that it wAs improper to attempt to disguise
anything by giving to it .1 specious name) that
borrowing money si.oulo not be called paying the
pulilu deht; that all authority given to borrow mo
iey should he express ami specific as to the sum
It was said in reply dial there could be no objeo
ti >n that the truth should appear on the face of ibe
bill; that this sum not being wanted to defray the
ordinary expellees of the government, but to pa\
dchts heretofore contracted, the phraseology was
perfectly correct } lout it was as speeitiirk ID fact as
it expressed in so many figured.
Mr. Dana v rid h.s motion, after debate, on
account ui lh- t certainty which appeared to exist
as to the sum m*ort-itibfe, and ol course as to the
sum tube loaned lie moved to amend the bill so
“5 to give authority to borrow a sum of money
“ n 'l exceeding four millions ofdollars.”
This motion was supput led and opposed by the
sau.e gentlemen as the former motion.
In support oi the motion, it was said that this
slid was . u tti« set retary w tiie treasury bad asked
for, mid was tr.erciftre as much ae ought to be giv
ent i he advocates of the oiiiendnient also s.dd they
were averse In legislating blindfold, tu voting 1X111 ti
OHS without kdow.ng for what, or to surrendering
up their judgments to executive discretion, und< i
an idea that the president would pot borrow nunc,
than was necessity.
In reply it was said that since tbe secretary of
the treasury had made tbe estimate in question,
other expences had been incurred; that it was im
possible to t. II the precise amount Wanted until con
gress should adjourn, and it was impossible to tell
•iti one day what appropriations they would make
the next day} that, n not necessary, tbe authority
to bin row would not be used } as in the case of the
loan amIioriscd at the last session of congress, not
it rent of wlmh had been actually borrowed,' That
iaw had granted an authority nearly similar to this
in neaily the tame language,
Afi. Dana’s motion was negatived, 52 to 2<j.
Mr. Quincy observed that he felt but one difficul
ty on tiiis subject. He rould not agree to borrow,
an amount greater than lb* secretary of the treasu
ry had said was necessary. He therefore moved to
amend the mil by adding toll the following proviso:
“ Provided, That nothing in this act contained
shall he cunsliued to authorise any sum tu ba bor
rowed greater than four millions of dollars.”
rJ he motion was Inst— Ayes 28.
Mr, Jtwoope moved to amend the bill hy striking
mu the words " funded debt,” and inserting “ ex
i hanged 6 pir cent, stork,” winch would authorise
a loan to the amount of 3,750,000 dollars, there
being so much of this description ol publick stock
redeemable during tbe present year—and this he
believed was all the secretary of tbe treasury had
deemed necessary.
This motion was supported by Messrs. Burwrll,
Swonpe, and Shatfey, and opposed by Mr. Montgo
mery.
It was negatived, ayes IS.
The committee then rtfse and reported tbe bill
without amendment.
Mr. Dana moved-that tbe bill lie on tbe table
till tomorrow, with a view, of ascertaining tram
the secretary ofcshe treasury wbat Money was ac
tually wanted. *
Mr. Pitkin supported tbe motion. He estimated
.the sots now authorised to be borrowed at between
five and six millions, and said he bad no idea of
Eggji^^r*
-itstSmThlM «w* DrOMl
Mr. QuiRty renewed the priipoiiuon whi It he
h»fi made ib CNtmriltc* to amend-the biHr which
Wat negatived—Yeas 6'l, nay* 34,
Mr. Swoupe renewed the 'motion which he had
made Hi committee which was aJse> lost, yea# 33,
nays 63.
l ne' bHl was then ordered to he engrossed foe «
third reading.
1 he house then tooh ap the amendments el the
senate tw the hill establishing post foaQs, and ty
he biii concerning invalid pensioners—which was
severally enncerrwJ in by the hbtree, Adjowneo.
Ttteiday, April 24,
Mr. Root was excused from farther service on the
toiiuniltre appointed to investigate the conduct ftf
general Wilkinson, on account of intended absence.
Mr. Kodt moved to refer (ha letter received from
gen. Wilkinson on I-riday last to the above com*
inittee, t,ut afterwards withdrew the motion.
Mr, l\tiea IT.) moved to reier it to the secretary
t#1 wnf.
Mr. GhoTsnn moved (bat ("he last motion lie on
the table. Carried.
Mr. Snnlie, from the committee to whom was re
feried the resolution lor reducing the army, report
ed (he following pill:
A bill to reduce and consolidate the army of the Uni
ted Slates.
Be it enacted, fyc. That the president of the Uni
ted States be authorised out of the troops raised and
now in service under •* the art to raise for a limit
ed time an H.iditionitl military lorce," to Complete
the regiment of light art,lief)' to lorm and complete
two regiments agieeably to the provisions of mid
act; also to form a company of botubadiers to be
annexed to the corps of engineers ; to Gll.up the re
giments authorised by the •• Act fixing the milita
ry peace establishment of the United States,” and
to discharge the three brigadier generals and all the
officers and men who may he supernumerary l.y this
arrangement, and to discontinue the recruiting ser
vice,
2. “ And be it farther enacted, That all the of
fleers who may be discharged under this art shall
receive three months pay according to their respec
tive grades, in addition to wh-A may be due t em
at the Unit ol their discharge, and such allowance
for travelling from their place of discharge to their
respective places of rrsidtnre as is piesmbed by the
“ Act fixing the military peace establishment ol the
United States. 1‘rovided, that whenever the pub*
lie exigences require the calling into service of an\
of the officers discharged by this act, they shail
have rank equal to that under which they retire.
The bill was twice read and committed.
REDUCTION OK THE NaVY.
On motion of Mr. Randolph, the house resolv
ed itself into a committee ol the whole, Mr. Pitkin
in ibe chair, on (lie bill to reduce the naval esta
blishment of the United States,
After a disruss.on of several hours, the bill whs
amended by Striking out the whole subsume of the
bill, leaving in it only a provision to sell such gun
boats HS are until for service or unworthy of repair,
and reuiiiing the last section respecting navy yard*,
which was so amended as to include the navy yard
at Washington amongst those to he continued in
use.
The committei rose and reported the amend
ments,
A motion was made by Mr, Miltiof* to postpone
the further rousidnalionoa the subject indefinitely.
Debates afose, and the bouse adjourned at 6
o’clock.
Wednesday. April 25,
Mr. Dahd presented a resolution to direct the post
mast-r general to lay before this hoose a statement
of tlie number of post offices j the Sums received lor
postage J the compensations paid to deputy post
musters; the charges for conveyance of the mails’;
the aggregate amount of the incidental expenses ol
the host office, and the nett revenoeof the establish
mem; together with information respecting the ex*
tension of the post roads, fur e ;ch year, from the.
4th of March, 1/89- to the end of the year 1809 —
This resolution passed,
A bill from the senate fit continue the ch«rt“f 0;
the bank of Alexandria, ill the District ot Colum
bia, to the yeur 1831, was read twire und referred to
u committee of the whole to morrow.
The loan bill was read a third time and the ques
tion pul—shall the bill pass t
Mr, Randolph moved to postpone the further con
sideration of the bill until to-morrow. The moti
on was negatived—47 t» 50.
M r, Tay lot moved to ret ommlt t he bill—Tb is mo
tion was likewise uegsrtived. Mr. Stanford moved
to lay the bill on the table. This uioiiou was also
negatived—39 to b’l.
The question on the final passage of the bill was
taken by ayes and cues and carried—Ayes 77
Noes 35.
The unfinished business of yesterday—the consi
deration of the natal bill, as reported by a committee
of the whole—Was tiki-n lip. Mr. Milnor with
drew his motion lor indefinite postponement.
LANDING
Arm on board the Brig Hvrmoti, from VQuirtu
110,000 weight Green Coiflee,
839 Ox Hides,
13,364 weight Campeachy Logwoods
For bale by
C, & F. Whittle.
April 27. tf
W1G.WAM GARDENS
Will be ofientd the Bitot Day iff May«v
Dinners for large or small parties will
be provided on reasonable terttia—Relithee ef Veni
son Hams, Bacon, do. Salmon, Scotch Herrings,
Smoaked Beef,'Neat's Tongues, Sterling Polot Oys
ter*, fresh from the river, well cocked in any way
to please the parties; Liquors of the very best qua
lity, and of ail kinds t »ce-Creams at asy hour ?
Mink Pin# and Gaits, a diverting cure but hafd te
For. eir,. water, and health, no spot superior.
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Sloop ft*eS<(rt«r»f1i*ftiiil!
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PORT Of mttfOUZ M
CUHfOiVMiOUsi
SHip Urmia, G,o«*vy.i«*
Uriji M.irm, 8ierry, :.
Hnrizun, L'uuuMisgs,
SkK'r Industry, Bi*y,
Sever, ,
Sfoupiiei»ejf Unghrma*, *
Cu*»j
Ship Uim«» States, Half,
Kising Slates, Jehmu#,
Sirti'f Ad*4in* Myrrs, DerkJi
IWj, l><idup, 1
Hewi-pMtn*.
Traveller, Sanders,
Shwp Friendship, A«®ur,
New Haven,
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Genuine Old PORT
For inile at Auction,
40
50 pipes of the vr J
wiNi^
Will be Sold in front of (he l'i mine
New-York,
On the 2d Wednesday Uj Mayy
For the ro< »t it will fetch to done, a concern, b#.
tug »il that 1'CfHMirn of the cargo of the brig prang*,
imported in 16b9, from Oporto. fl" * ’
April 30.
ICE,
A. LINDSAY bff» leave to infbrp Ms a
custotntr>i, and the juiolkk in gtnera], thaLheHlas JOE
in hit two houses the largest yumt^y of PURE jCB "WM
he ever had, from uncontan fnatetf sources, which
tniu K« ilwliMWfwrl o<> BnAn «!,» fii&LJ&at&SK - » 57* • l
win he delivered so toon as the weather Veiuand* It.
and at his usual moderate price*.—FunctDalattend
BKifoead*
ance tl dv at their houses. ■
Hermitage, April 30. ‘ $fcll»i|stJe
A tfKlV ATE BOAk DK^HOUSE,
in a pleasant am' healthy litmatb'H,
Suitable for elderly Gentlemen, Who wrelt to tive te
toed, or young L.dies that wish
Nor*
to him
folk, for the benefit of fk;
occupied by the Spanish
Daniel Slotted near the
p .fran ge of friend* and stranger* are solicited by
the subscriber, *
Ann Picmoht.
April 30* ’ *{ -
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On Wed noday next, at 12 o*Ci ck.
at Loyall’s Wharf, will be Sold wiUftltreaum.
i>0£i£\ Tut
New Brig 1
Rtmh> n 221 ton
t»*r
1800 barrels, fitted with the _
|» end two
boi.t**—Terms 2, *, 0, and 8
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endorsed note* ) her inventoi
office.
Riel?
CburtA,Street, witt *
Immediately after at AO.
be So|
The balance of a is
of Hardware.
m
and sundry
itcJewv' • .
iThe J|
aterials for a
.100 Ihns^.t '
__ SHI
and the frame new rsi^d *
User iirnorr* *nd
a parcel uf Timber *uitTb)g _____ „
said Hull,’ r.im «*»
mde from Gosport bridge. lT*he term., to
known at the time of sale. 'a3>»v
•April 27. • ,«j
Mil
Tlfli'tivH
Sl,ip*KAVA,
* *A«
. Captain G, efftw*, *^rth#n
15 effirtd for Charter—whd ml
bttsht Is St. Uhes' SALT, which
taken from ttl' .igsidel — ^
FOR
The copper bottomed Schooner -
___ ABELA,,f#I - *
N"W reiidt fi r the reception of a c«e»t owlilwm >«|
on m lielore the 10th of May. Pot fi ai jA* or tun*
sage apply to * :
April 38.
SPRING GOdPS:
RICHARD X JOHN Ti
Offer fcr Sale, ^
An assortment of SPRINGS
150 barrels New Perk, 300 do. Pltrl,
6000 Wt. Paeon, April IKK
FOR SALFW^r
€6 tierces RICE, *0 half ti
250 barrel* FLUlHl. i
Wm. H. Thoi
April 27; l
LANDtN#
Thin Day On Cominirtt-&treei,
Srhooner MlnetVU, Qtftt* &
rifo ’ V”: yi- " “3gj
20 pipes Particular IBS