Norfolk gazette and publick ledger — Norfolk [Va.], 1808-12-12 00:00:00, page 1

[VOL. V.
MONDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 12, 1808.
NO.16$']
FOR SALE,
SALT.
10,000 bushels Coars
]\Iackiuucr W hite.
December 9
• FOR RENT,
And poitptsion. given the I at day of Janui
The HOUSE at present occupied by
. Mr. Argote, near the Virginia Bank.—Apply to
Edward Roberts.
December 9 tf
FOR SALE,
And a Bargain given,
JThe LOT in the rear ot' Mr. Xivison’s
dwelling house, on which are two excellent two .tor- Pric!:
Houses, one of them at present occupied by Mr. Thomas
JL^twson, and the other vacant tor tuims apply 1°
Brunet 8t 'I hompson.
Dec. 9 tjlD-c
“ A BARGAIN OF I- '-'RED,
In a fine and Valuable FARM,
in the County of 1‘rincess Anne.
-r is disposed to s'dl his Plantation ca'le-1
►x^rtESubsC*'^ -sj. ,, mated in the county of Princess
1 LEVEL V‘ 7i" ’, r.,h acres; at..!, as it naav be
Anno I' contains a..> .wo <>f -hrcc Farms, the <uWri
x,:.tWe».«»7 ^' a purchaser, in selling cither tlie
Vr wi!.‘ a<et.wtr. . - . ^ iyc ^ long credit. This
whole or a P*'1 . , t, most dcsiraale in the county,
tract of L-jr' V* LltTbnneh'of Eliatsbeth Riser, and dtstar.t
lying toe . *■ ■ . f six miles oy water, and M o
from N\»ih .*h •JVxccJicnt, about mi* halfo^tUc tr h i
9 by land —The so?- n ^ ill>mi;,tiatc culture; the oti.
being 'leated land, , ‘0 k p,,,... Ash, and Hickor. —It
qr Inavily timbered »i . good lot idiots —Any on*
has also the advantage fl ;J' ^ to purchase, uia» apply, i„
disposed to view the laA.-, ’ w jAMES Robinson, or
the absence of the sn.a.e. ', ’ l)ej,hl..>u.hood.
Join. Read, who Tuilj RobillsStl.
tf
Dre
To BuRv, lll Wilks, L. “
- ^1R> ,.'•<] by you to
H AVING a change direct. Synucx
G.;r Ridgclcy of Maryland, wherei. .
cept no liorr- which he m-ght name—I will nm
Colt Sir Solomon < y Tickle To’uy, against your cele
brated I lorse Potomac In Diomed, or anu other hone
in the United States of /hncrica, four mile heats,
agreeable to the New-.M ai ket rules, over the NLW
Course at Norfolk, ontbe first 1uesday lnJune, ISO}),
for lire sunr ol Fret 'J Jinnscind Dollars, or any oilier
amount which you may choose to name. 1 will al
so bind myself to procure you good Subles and Lit
ter, and pay all reasonable expenses.
Caleb Boush.
PrinCess-Anne, Dec. 5, 1S08.
P S l shall expect to bear from you through the
same medium, on or before the first day of February
next. C~ h
ran sai.b.
The CARGO of the British brig Eu
■henria, from Liverpool, 210 ion Sti.veil SA.I.T
r Robert Dickson.
Dec. 5. __
TO BE ltl'.N l F.l),
And possession i’iren the 1 't of Janvani,
The HOUSE .and EO T on Catharine
Street, occupied by Mr. Franc s S. Taylor, adjoimng Mr
John Taylor’s.
The Fire Proof WAREHOUSE on
Maxwell’s wharf, nmv hi the occupancy of Mr lot n M ie
J.OWH1, to which d attached a valuaole privilege with re
spect to wharfage. Apply to .
John Nivison.
3>c
Nov. 18.
J'ur S tir, or ijll be Bartered, in "nit Jur 'lubac
co, Hour, or Nov I Slo es.
150,000 wt. Muscovado SUGAR,
200 Mini MOL\SSFS, VdO"icV< Liverpool SALl,
•5000 busheiJ* v'jul** SALT, .J^eriour quality,
23 crates QJLI'NS WAUL.
James \oung.
Octabv 21- 1 { _
CAUTION.
TYjp pUIiL'.CK are cautioned aaainsr crediting a:iv of
J ihc crew of !iaSM;> .lolm, nf Liverpool, is 1 will i.ot
lie reipo/.-.bio f r any J. Ins they may rontr u t
'Joh.;. Gibr.cr,
Master «>f tlie Ship John.
Nov. 13.
MACKINDER s WHITE,
<"» V FT It >>ll ^\U’„
FOR t:a<h jpptrn'ED NOTES,
8009 Uarr. Is NAV.aI. STORKS,
100 tales Genr’is Upland CO 1 ION,
S3 hales New Orleans 'In.
62 ba.rWi API”. I ,«A JDY,
8 hivls. RiehrMttiil TOliACCO,
20 h:gshr»'i* Vork-Uivoc, dn.
21 hhds I’cterab'ir", do.
* 109 barrels Sroithfield an ' Carolina POS.L,
22 pipes HOLLAND OH,
0 pipes COUNTRY CUN,
ICO hex s Fill'iSH IMPllilAL -) ,
and GITNPO.VO' R V 1 LAS. M
40 boxes YOlJJvG ll”SON J ^ ®
Jnd 500 bids. Fresh Alexandria Superjine FLOUR.
jW-SO,
A General Assortment of DRY GOODS,
taiiabfc to thr Stetson.
Not. 14. cM
ROTES',
According to the form latclu ordered b>) the Di rec
to us uf the Vnu.iM.v Bank, far Sale at the
Ledger Office. Nov. 28.
NOTES OF HAND,
accrrdinj to the new form established by th t Directors of thi
OfTe; ey IJiSrount an.) Deposit of the Batik »f the Unite'
Skites, for kIu at this office.
CONGRESS-/ the UNITED STATES.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
Monday, November 28.
FOREIGN RELATIONS.
T/r. Quincy s Speech, concluded from our paper oj
Wednesday last.
It is in vain, to say that if the embargo was rai
sed there would be no market. The merchants un
derstand that subject better than you, and the ea
gerness with which preparations to load tveie carried
on previous to the commencement of this session,
speaKS in a language not to be mistaken, their opi
nion of the foreign markets. Hut it has been asked
in debate, “will not Massachusetts, the cradle of
liberty, submit to such privations ?” An embargo
..tierty was never rindled in Massachusetts. Our
liberty was not such a mountain as a sen nymph.
She was free as air. She could swim, or she could
run. The ocean was her cradle. Our fathers met
her as she came, like the goddess of beauty, from
the waves. They caught her as she was sporting
on the beach. They courted her whilst she was
spreading her nets upon tin locks. Hut an embar
go liberty a hand ruffed liberty ; a liberty in fet
ters: a liberty traversing between the four sides of
a piison and beating her head against the wails, is
none of our offspring. Weabjure the monster. Its
parentage is all inland.
The gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Macon)
. ...claimed the oli.er day, “ whereis the spirit i>t'/(jr"
Ace sir. Where is it? Would to Heaven, that at
our invocation, it would condescend to alight on
this Poor. Hut let gentlemen remember, that tin
spirit of Jli was not a spirit of empty declaration,
of abstract pi impositions. It did not content itself
with nmi-importatlon acts, or non-intercourse law®
it was a spirit ot active preparation; of dignified
energy.^ It siudittl both to know our rights and to
devise the effectual means of maintaining them.
In all the annals of ,6, you will find no such de
grading doctrine, as that maintained in this report.
It never presented to the people of the United States,
‘ae alternative of war or a suspension of our rights,
itul rft°nimended ihe latter, rather than to incur
:he risque of the former. What was the language
if tiial ptfiod, in one of the addresses of congress
to Great .Britain? “ \ ou attempt to reduce us, by
‘ the sword to base and abject submission. On
“ the sword, therefore, tve rely for protection.”—
In that day there weie no alternatives presented to
dishearten ;—no abandonment of our rights under
the pretence of maintaining them ;—no gaining the
battle by running away. In the whole history of
that p'-iiod there are no such terms as "embargo—
“ dtgn/ticd retirement—trying who can do each other
“ the most harm.” At that time we had a navy :
that name so onions to the influences of the present
day. Yes, sir, in 1770', though but in our infancy,
we had a nir u scouring our coasts, air! def ending our
commerce, sehich was never. for one moment whoil /
suspi tided. In 1/70', we had an army also; and.,
glorious army it was? n"t composed of men halt
ing from the stews oETSwept from the jails, but of
the best blood, the real yeomanry of the country,
noble cavaliers, men without J'tar and w ithout re
proach. Wr. had sucii ax army in 1770’, and
Washington v r its head.—Wr have an army
IN ISOS, ANT) A 11 SAD TO IT.
I will nut humiliate those who lead the tortures
of the nation at the present day, hy any comparison
with the great uitn of that period. But 1 recom
mend the advocates of the present system of public
.'measures to study well the true spirit of 177(1, be
I fore they v* nture to call it in aid of their purposes,
j It may bring ill its train, some recollections, nut
suited to give ease, or hope to their hosnms. ] beg
gentlemen, who are so lreijuent in their recurrence
to that period, to remember, that among the rau
sis, which led to n separation from Great-Britain,
the following ..re enumerated—unnecessary restricti
mi„ upon trade—cutting off commercial inti i course be
ts., c« the ad onus—embarrass'ng our fisheries—uan
tonl\•; dcyrhrns our citizens of necessaries—invasion
of jn Irate y’lerty by governmental edicts—the au
thor tin of the comm aider in chief, and under him of
the brigadier gcniral being rendered supreme in the ci
vil government—the commander in chief of the army
made governor oj a colony—aitizens transferred)rom
their n'atiic country for trial—Bet gentlemen be
ware hdw they eppedl to the spirit of ’70' ; lest it
come with the aspect, not of a friend, but of a
tormentor—lest they find a warning, when they
look for support, and instead of eneouragetueut,
they are presented with an awful lesson.
But repealing the embargo will be submission to
tribute. The popular ear is fretted with this word
tribute—And an odium is attempted to be thrown
upon those, who are indignant at this abandonment
of ti.eir rights, by representing them as the advo
cates of tribute. Sir, Who advocates it ? No man,
in this country, I believe. This outcry about tri
bute is the veriest Img-bear that was ever raised, in
order to persuade men to quit rights, which God
and nature had given them. In the first place, it is
scarce possible that, if left to himself, the interest
of the merchant could ever permit him to pay the
British re exportation duty, denominated tribute.
France, under penalty ol confiscation, prohibits
our vessels Horn receiving a visit from an English
ship, or touching at an English pnrt. In this state
of things, England pretends to permit us to export
to France certain articles, paying her a duty. The
very statement of the case, shews the futility of
the attempt. Who will pay a duty to England, for
permission to go to Fiance to be confiscated ? Bu.
suppose, there is a mistake in this, and that it may
be the interest of the merchant to pay such 0 duty.
Car file" purpose of going to certain destruction,
nave not you lull power* over thi* matter} Cannot
you, by pains and penalties, prohibit the merchant
Irnm the payment of such a duly? No man will
O' Strnct you. There is not, as I believe, but one
opinion upon this subject. I hope, therefore, that
gentlemen will cease this outcry about tribute.
However, suppose that the payment of this duty
is inevitable, which it certainly is not, let me ask
•—I* Embargo Independence f Deceive not your
selves. it is palpable submission.—Gentlemen ex
elaini, Greal-Britain “ smites us on one cheek.”—
And what does administration ? “It turns the oth
er also.” Gentlemen say, Great Britain is a robber,
she “lakes our cloak.''—And w hat say administra
tion? “ J.rt her lake our root a/so.” Trance and
(■real Britain requires you to relinquish a part ui
your commerce, and you yrcld it entirely. Sir,
1 his conduct may be the way to dignity and ho
nour, in another world, hut it will never sScure
sulety and independence in this.
At every corner of this great city we meet some
gentlemen of the majority, wringing thfir hands
and exclaiming, “ What shall we do? Nothing but
embargo will save ns. Remove it, and what shall
wp do ?” Sir, it is not for me, an humble and unin
fluent-al individual, at an awful distance from the
predominant influences, to suggest plans of govern
ment. But tomyfye, the p«lh of our duty is as
distinct as the milky way; all studded with'living
sapphires; glowing with accumulating light. It is
tie path of active preparation; bf dignified ener
gy. It is the path of 1777
It consists, not in abandoning our rights, but in
supporting them as they exist, and where they exist
—on the ocean, as xscil as on the /and It consists in
taking the nature of things, as1 the measure of the
rights of your citizens, and not the orders and de
crees ofynur imperious foreigners: Give what pro
tection you can. Take no counsel of fear. Your
strength will increase with the trial, and prove
greater than you are now aware.
But I shall be told “ this ipay lead to war.” I
ask, “ Arc we now at peaceT Certainly not, unless
retiring from war be peace—unless shrinking under
the lash, be ptarc. The surest way to prevent war,
is not to fear it. The idea that nothing on earth is
so dreadful as war, is inculcated too studiously
among us. Disgrace is worse. Abandonment of es
„l ...i,. _
Sir, I could not refrain from seizing (lie first op
portunity of spreading before this bouse the suffer
ings ami exigencies of New-England, under this em
bargo. Some gentlemen may deem it not strictly
before us. In iny opinion, it is necessarily. For,
if the idea of the committee le correct, and Emlar
go if resistance, then this resolution sanctions its
couiinuancc. If, on the contrary, ns I contend,
Embargo is siiimissiun, then this resolution is a
pledge of its repeal.
Mr. Dona said, he considered it unfortunate, if
the dnui t existed in the minds of members of this
house which seemed to be implied by tbe resolution
und.r consideration. Was it teally a question whe
ther the representatives of the people of the l uited
States, would bow their free necks to a foreign
yoke? Was it to be decided by renewing the. det lara- ■
lion of tbeir independence? Once declared, Mr. 1).
said it was to be considered us a given point, that
our independence should be maintained ; and it was
not always a sufficient reason for agiteing to a
proposition, that it was truth. For Iwn.srli lit bad
nut supposed that much doubt existed on ibis point.
Even the committee themselves seemed to have con
sidered this declaration as unnecessary, for they say
it might to some seem superfluous. lie thought the
real policy to be pursued by ibis country should Le
such as never to make this a question ; and when it
became a question, a declaration in words added |
not to toe determination l" resent aggressions on our
independence. 1 lowever, us the resolution had been
submitted to the house, it became a question bow it
should be decided, and another question what was
the import of it? In one respect he approved the
resolution, because it was concise, and yet there
might be a ditference of opinion as tu tbe terms of
;t. The questions now submitted to the councils of
the nation were questions relative to our maritime
rights ; be knew not that any question existed a
to our territorial rights. The language of the re
solution was very broad,and lie wished that it might
he so varied as to be more specific and appropriate.
With this view, that no doubt might exist of the
import of the resolution,he moved to insert between
tbe words tv and the ibe words “ abandon the nav
igation of the ocean in consequence of.” This a
mindment presented a question ou which he wished
a derided expression of the opinion of tbe house.
Mr. Shorn said, he perfectly acquiesced in the a
mendment moved by the gentleman from Connecti
cut, if one word more was added ; and that was toe
word “longer” between the words nut andsubmit.*
He for one thought that our rights were already
abandoned ami that they had been abaudutitd too
Mr. Duna said, that whatever had been his opi
nion of the past measures of the administration, he
would not propose an amendment which would im
ply that the rouncils had submitted. Gentlemen
who had favoured those measures, probably did not
consider them as submission: he therefore fould not
consent to cast that reproach os them, llw gen
tleman from Ntw-Jersey, he hoped, wouid not con
sider it a want of attention to him ; but, for tbeae
reasons, he could not accept Ills amendment.
Mr. Bacon observed, that he had hoped, from the
observations of his colleague, (Mr. Quincy) that
there would have been no objection to life adoption
of this resolution, as reported. NVhat could be less
objectionable than the resolution here offered, thut
the United States would not sacrifice their rights,
honour and independence to the edicts o‘ Gteat-Bri
tain and France ? There wa* indeed considerable ad
dryts iJUjffayeil ui Use coaitructiou oi Uui Bwtod
nvent. The declaration contained in the-resolution,
was, that the United States would not in any inan
n«! submit to the edicts. The gentleman wished to
say that the United Stale* would not submit to al*m
don the ocean, thus narrowing down ibe mode of re
sistance. The conclusion, to be drawn -from wJiich
'was, that t^ey wonlrf not submit to the embargo,
which resisted-those decrees, instead of soyifant%ut
they would not submit to the decrees, the gmileAtaa
irnni Connecticut wished them to say that tlicv
would not submit to abandon ;he ocean. Gentle
men said that the embargo is an abandonment of
the ocean. The genilaimm therefor* wished lo-#n
trap the house into a declaration that they weMlii
not submit to the embargq. • • '
Mr. Taylor said, it had been the deride of tld? se
lect commillee to piCsont to the house a profiiUtif.ii
which should have out of \iew, not only jUfrVj’ feel
ings, which were supposed sometimes to-tiMi%t»-fhe
house, and the nation, hut HJiy thing relitino urifhe
maiinei in which this resistance was to hdiiAifee hy
ihe nation against the otders aird decrees, aMUi n.r
'•'llt to one object—the infraction ofaswr ne&HhUijy
by loruign nations ; that the question Shotild no* be
traim lad with, war or no war, with emhabgddr no
embargo; but that it should appear to life world
that there is a sp rit w this nation dt4crmimrrf'i„
oppose the orders and decrees of the belligerents;—
It was not necessary (hat he should have stated tin*
as liis deti rminafion, for Ire had'given ttn irishmen
of it, and so had the house, iij passing the embar-ir
law. A proposition was no tv brought forward, on
which he must vole—what ? r That ire would not a.
bandon the ocean in rorrsequrnre of the bftkrs’ftnd
decrees, lie. said that a temporary abandonment
was not a total abandonment; and if by the-form! r
the house should thinh that they could coerce dn
observance o| their rights, the measure would pro! -
ably be resorted to. ’J bis, however, was aqdestiiin
lor the deriSfon ot the house. Why then trammel
this resolution with another fropofeninh; whirls was
not connected with il ? An apology might be lUribght
necessary foi proposing a truism to the rtmlident
t’.on of the house; 1 ut it would he recullectirf that
awing the late session of Congress, a colleague of
of Iiis had come forward and demanded whether
there was or was not a Rian in the nation who wbuldl
submit to the belligm nt idiots ? From one quarter*
an appropriate answer had been made; from (mo
ther qhart*r iHet'e had been no replv. .And what
had bei n tlie conduct of the latter ? Had there not
hern a proposition made (by Mr. Livermore) at the
late session, to make war against one, (France) aid
enter into connection with another ? (Great-Britain)
This had been introduced; and would it not have
hem the most servile submission : This sentiment
was not disavowed by the gentleman (Mr. Quincy)
who had gieen them his opinion on this resolution,
and travelled out of the path of his argnmeht to
vent his spleen against other measures which werp
not recommended to the hnuie by the committee,
who left it wholly to the house to say what meas
ure they would adopt. Why should the house be
made to deride on a proposition like this, when they
had alieady adopted a measure (the embargo) which
showed their willingness to make any sacrifices for
maintaining their light to the ocean - The com
plaints made by the gentleman from Massachusetts,
proved that the people had hntne a great de<^. !tFr„
T. said he had given a sufficient proof, by his vote
in favour of the embargo, not'to make it (irressary
for him now to sav that he would not abandon the
ocean, unless for such a time, as, by affecting the
interests of the belligerents, should compel them to
abandon the nefarious project of laying miller con
tribution our lawful commerce. Notwithstanding
this disposition, .Mr. T. said, he could not vote for
the amendment off-l ed l.y the gentleman from Con
necticut, as its adoption would evade the question
w hich he wished to Lc taken on the principle of the
resolution.
Mr../. 0. Jail.ton hoped that the committee
would not" consent to permit un evasion of a decisi
on on the great question now proposed l« them.
;>nd thus enable gentlemen to craepout by the aid of
! the proposition of the gentleman from Connecticut.
He wished the question to be solemnly decided, be
cause he believed there were individuals in a certain
portion of this body, who nee not willing to say
that they would resist these aggressions ; and he
was induced to believe it by a late assertion that
the United States hud no cause of complaint against
Great Britain. If ihe gentleman from Connecticut
would bring forward a distinct proposition to the a
inount of bis amendment, Mr. J. said lie would vote
with him. Retiring from the ocean for a season
was not an abandonment of it; hut an acquies
cence io the arbitrary edicts of the bclligurebts
would bean abandonment. What was thcammint
of the resolution us reported by the select commit
tee ? Let it he examined and it was this ; that the
United Stales would carry on trade notwithstand
ing their edn ts. lie wished not to afford gentlemen
an opportunity of getting off the odium which
would attach to them if they voted against tbe plain
proposition for resistance ; an 1 hoped that the
committee would not sanction the amendment, not
withstanding that he was ready to vote for a dis
fictit proposition to the same effect as the amend
ment.
Mr. Littnnnrc said that the principal question
proposed to toe house 6v the amendui nt was, whe
ther it was consistent with a derniinution to resist,
to abandon the ocean in consequence of the edicts
of Great Britain and France I Would any gentle
man sty that it was ? Would any gentleman say
that it comported with honour and independence
to abandon the ore^n ? He conceived not. The
gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. B n on) seemed
to conceive that if.(be amendment were adopted, it
would be conteoderTtbat the. i-'nb^rga was an ab >n
dpmntnt of commerce, FfytSi iu mtr tiding upon the