Norfolk gazette and publick ledger — Norfolk [Va.], 1810-01-08 00:00:00, page 2

Pat& Derr's Me«a#k.. This long expected
(image ia published in thtsdsy* p.p,f. No om
rejoices mar* than we do, whenever measures far
rendering qur country respectable era adopted— by
reeperbtble wa mean strong. It it folly, that the
nation ought to discard, thft “ a just nation ran
he trusted on its word” and of course that all ar
‘ momenta of precaution are uaelru and expensive,
•od taight prove incentives to war. About five
years since, Mr. Jefferson broached this whimsical,
nonsensical doctrine. The message recommends
three objects, a 'completion of enlistments for tl e
ngolar army, one hundred thousand militia, and
twenty thousand volunteers, to be enlisted for a
tkort time / This sort of Torre looks well upon pa
per, and it has tba advantage of great strength,
without expense. Is this force for defense or o.Tence?
The augmentation of the navy, is mil recommend
ed, but if neerssery, left to the wisdom of congress.
Here again the fear of expense operates ; the
augmentation of the navy cannot he made without
expense. It appears from the message, that the
aatiun ie not to rely upon its resource* Pny longer,
but upon its credit. By this it is distinctly under’
•food that our future expenses are to bo supported
by loans.
As tba nrcRnizitinn nf th* inn nnn ; 1:.i
SO,000 volunteers, will be a work o!' a fev month.,,
^ it will give os time to hear fiom Europe, which wP
understand it the object of our govrrnm nt. It js
pwsible that the information that may then be re
«*ived niay pp'lrr this mighty army u»nere;Sary.
^If the natiori rt to be made formidable, inililia ar.d
volunteers must not be the principle reliance j one
Voald think that the history of our revolutionary
* w*r *'**»t furnish our ruleis with a |«son on this
•abject.
An American schooner, name unknown, arrived
Qt Kingston, Jamaica, the 3d December, with n
cargo ef flour j the brig Margaret, (British)
Crookshankt, ariived the same day from Norfolk.
The brig Diamond, and cargo from Norfolk far
Jamaica, has beea seized and cmnleained at that
island. An American schooner (name unknown)
*ith rice and lumber, arrived at Port Royal (jam )
the 8th of December; the schooner Rover, f„„n
Boston (via St. Jago de Cuba), arrived the same
_
Captain Drummond of the ship Il-mld, arrived
this morning, left Lisbon the 29th of Nov. ||e jn.
forms that Admiral Serkdtj had received dispatches
from Gibraltar, which slated that a part of Admi
ral Colling wood’s Heat of 7 sail, had fallen m with
the Toulon fleet of 8 sail of the line, with IS
transports, that five or six of the line of battle
«bips bad been capturrd and all the transports.—
The British suffered much in the loss of men and in
the rigging of the ships. The French fleet were
bound to Barcelona.
Utt of Director* of the Bank of Virginia, fo
the pretent year.
Richmond—Ahr.ham B. Venable, Benjamii
Hatcher, Joseph Galfcgo, Gervas Storrs, Ssmus
Pleasants, jr. William Wardlaw, John H. Fousher
Richard Adams, John Tomkins, Robert Gamble
•Edward W. Routes, *Robert Mitchell, ‘John C
Jlobner, *Jnm«s Brown.
Petersuro—Robert Birchett, James Byrne A
IjXtudar Brown, Joel flammon, Wiiliau. Bowdoin
Archtbald Baugh, Williatn Clark, Paul Nash, Rn
bert Waiker Fbomas Atkinson, ‘Nathaniel Friend
•Robert Pollok, •William IJaxall.
, . _ „ , , *vnv,u R.»rr, John Mi.
line, John T. Brooke, John M-rcer, Hugh Mercer,
S&’.kPlP'* rhom*1* Goodwin, Robert Patton,
William S. Stone, ‘Robert S. Chew, ^I-ieldinj Lu
cm. ‘Devid Henderson, ‘John Scott. 4
• Nno Members,
ty* Those of Norfolk in our last.
POSTSCRIPT.
. W* •*«!> the press to state that at half past 5
• rlark this morning, the question on the PASS \GL
of the resolution relative to Mr. Jnckson, w.»s taken
by yeas end nay., and CARRIKD-ayes 72, n»cS
41# Independent American, Jan. 4.
/ POINT-JUDITII LIGHTHOUSE
^The bMUhem msaid light house was lighted for
the first time no Tloirsday last. |, „ finished
with an echps'r. The light wtll be eclipsed i„
•ea^ tw« and an half mmoles, and the duration of
tba arbpsa will he about twenty seconds. Vessel,
coming from the westward and near the Narranan
onalmre. Will observe that the light will not be to
Ully eclipsed. The distance from the light-house
to Mgh water mark is as follow. East from the
light house to high watermark lt> rods; S E u
tods, 5. 18 rods; S. S. W. US rods, which is the
extreme partoC the point. A good birth should
be given to tba Point.
|OX THE VlRGIXlA PATRIOT.
MefiectUms upon Ike State of our Country.
NoTm. 'mm.
..Isbell now proceed to examine the history
**$ !he fiorernment fn
SgMrjSOS; and i invite the .friends of admin
consider the facta which I shall str
wer my arguments. The subject is
me subject is j
Batpee /mdcalculated ^, exeiH, the hi
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£ U ,b(»<-y •>! Mr. Jit
ti sans. Rut tha sub
—iii^. As su«bit
w
■li'S
Wwveattgttrf will,-Marti*; VitaJl «wid
rlUlio* facts «n<i principles wliirb cuo b#' fotltro
wt*d, or drawing coorlusioo* which are not war*
r«alol.
The propositions which f aspect tn prove ore
theetThai Mr. Jefferson »w not sincerely dis
posal to effect an amicable adjustment of our differ*
ences with Greet Britain, atid that by insisting up
on conditions which coni i not be obtained, and
which he had no right to demand, ha lost the op.
portonity of gaining substantial advantage. and c
vcii brought our jest rights into controversy.
The insincertiy of Mr. Jefferson's professions has
been so often demonstrated, that the subject will ra
ther be incidentally mentioned, than thoroughly in
vestigated. A more important consideration is, to
shew the losses wbirh this country has sustained in
consequence of his system of politics.
Notwithstanding the clamour raised against ths
commercial treaty concluded by Mr. Jjy, the peo
ple of the United States aru now very generally
convinced that it was the source of their prosperi
ly. Under that treaty commerce flourished, and
soon after its expiration, our embarrassments i om
menred.
from the c.iurlusion of the peace of Amiens to
th# breaking out oi the present war, was an inter
val of two years. Why aid not Mr. Jefferson a
vail himself of this opportunity to obtain a ron
ineicia! treaty with Gieat Britain? Certainly such
s period would lie the most favourable moment.—
Great Britain would not insist so rigidly upon prin
ciples, lor winch there could be no immediate use,
and more advantageous terms might then be ob
tained, than when her policy requires her to press
with all possible force upon iinon ny, Mr. Jeffer
son certainly could not believe, that, in the event of
another war between Great Britain and France, the
rammers* of toe United States could ha carried an
toitlmilf inlarrniat iam .
m-nis w> remade !>v the treaty. lie certainly must
!)avh foreseen the cn'lision between the neinral pre
t* n.;i iiis nf Great Britain. Mis suffering the treaty
to expire, without an effort to renew the articles or
to pioi ure the substitution ot other?, is to my mind
a circumstance of great weight m proving his rh»
posititxn in t,e upon ill ter.n, with Ci. Britain.
In 180,» an event happened, which certainly
ought have been, and most probably was, exurcted
bv the government. The privy council of Great
Biilain issued an order, suijectiiig to capture, all
nenital vessels, which should he concerned in rar
rying on the colonial ti.ide nl her enemy. This nr
oer whs ioun-jrd upon no new pimripje, l>ut upon
one which Great Britain baa never ceased to main
taut. She lies indeed at tunes suspended its opera*
tirin, or uiodifjed her orders in relation to it, But
me has never for a moment abandoned her preten
sion to prevent neutrals from carrying on in tun*
of war, the colonial trade of her enemy, (rum which
they were excluded in- lime of peace. She main*
t. ms in principle the right to prevent either the di
rect *>r the indirect trade. True iitaeed she has not
alwavs adhered to tins in practice; but in thus com*
proiiising with t! « situation of things her minis
tors have shewn their wisdom. Hut while the
principle was maintained, the government of th*
l n-U’d States should have calculated upon an in
terruption ot this trade, unless precise stipulations
should heve guarded against it.
( have no intention of imputing to Mr. Jefferson
a tots! want of knowledge or political sagacity, I
must conclude that ibis event and its consequences
were toreso a hjyjnn. The property ot uur mer
chants were capture,] under this order, j clamour
was raised and a flame was lighted, which U lias
since been the rare nt administration to keep alive.
It is not my intention to dss -uss in this place the
re.soiiableness of «mr pretensions t* the colonial
trnde. Its-great importance to the prosperity
of this country should certainly restrain the admi
nistration from any express rentin'latmn of our
principles. Ilut when it is considered that evety
nation in Europe, which has ever pretended to be r,
maritime power, has maintained similar pretc.nsi
ons with those of Great Britain, and many have
gone to a greater extent, we certainly ought" not to
require a renunciation on her part, as sine qutnon
ol u treaty or convention. Neither nation need a
bandon auy of its real or pretended rights; but (he
exercise of a right may be waved for a time with
out its abandonment, as we have just seen in the
conduit of the British government. The true pa
iicy of a government is to insist upon as much es it
has the ability to obtain, and to postpone the de
mand at greater advantages until a more favourable
period. .Mr. Monroe and Mr. I’inkney were govern
ed by this consideration, when they concluded a
treaty with the British commissioners. The Bri
tish commissioners declined tn press their prmci.
pies to the full extent of requiring that the United
States should not carry on the colonial trade. In
return tor which, the American commissioners con
sented to relinquish the right to a direct trade, for
a limited time. No one will pretend to say, that
lhis treaty would not have secured us all the benefits
of th« mrrvinn »i_ «
w -— —xwi u«« l mj'
that it would have been a source of revenue
It this treaty had been ratified, the trade so conceded
would have been secure from interruption. But it
was rejected by Mr. Jefferson, under the pretext that
Great Britain had not expressly abandoned another
distinct pretension, which be had the fullest evi
dence to justify in in she would not abandon. This
unfortunate rejection has been the most efficient
cause of the disastrous consequences which have
followed.
Mr. Jefferson’s real metive was different from the
pretended one. The question of impressment was
not a cause, but a pretence. From the instructions
Riven to Messrs. Monroe and Pinkney, be did not
believe, that the conclusion of a treaty was possible.
And it would not have been, if these gentlemen bad
not.deviated from those instructions. Mr. Jeffer
son, object was not to make a settlement, but to
negotiate. He wan surprised to Ind that n treaty
had been concluded, and determined at alftvents to
reject it- For this, a pretence was not wanting.
Is not this statement of Mr. Jefferson’s conduct
correct f No gentleman, who has read ibo corras
! P®odence between all the parties concerned, will he
sitate to say ,ihat the prospect of Great Britain’s
acceedmgu. the demands of the United States, in
relation to the impressment nf seamen, was entirely
hopeless from t)>e commencement. And can any
proposition be more plain than this; that when a
government, in negotiating, instructs its minister
to tmnst upon any one condition, as the tine opr
non of a treaty, winch cendiuou it is known
£a obtained, tier* exist* bo disposition conforma
ble to (that professed?
No matter of rrmtroveray betweervlbe tiro coon
triwi has excited so much stD*ihiii>y among o«,
*5 this turret of impressing seamen. And yet i«
singular, that this strong feeling should be moo.
perceptible in the southern and western states,
which have scarcely any seamen, while tbe north
ern and eastern states from which the great body of
native seamen is derived, it is regarded with com
parative indifference. The rople of Kentucky,
iennessee, and Ohio, are so wewRUposcd to encou
rage and protect commerce, that their feelings upon
this subject are <juite natural. But a pkjn man
w»u.d suppose, that if the abuses of British officers
had not been very much exaggerated, we should
hear more ol this clamour, from that part of tbo
country whir h is the nursery of seumen.
f.et us consider this matter calmly and free fi*fom
the prejudice* in which it is involved. G. Britain
has a right to the service of her own seamen. She
may take them upon her own jurisdiction, or upon
a common jurisdiction, hut not in places under the
peculiar jurisdiction of another independent power.
1 he Ocean is a place of common jurisdiction, and
a merchant vessel ;s not entitled to the immunities
of territory. But Great Britain cannot lawtully
take American seamen.
These prioriplcs being settled, and indeed they
are admitted . y bath parties, there would be no
difference ansing, if it were not for the difficulty
oi distinguishing between British and American
Seaman.
Now when 1 miev. the course of that negotiati
on which terminated in the rejected treaty, 1 can
not fail to affirm, that the British ministers <1 id dis
cover a disposition io guard against the abuses
cctfiplaieed or. 1 ffisy did mat* propositions, which,
it t i-y hid been accepted, would have secured A
meriran seamen from the danger of being impress
ed, at the same time, that the iigbt of Great Bii
tam to ths service of her own seamen would have
hsen preserved. Ami ib nlKi.1,1 .. .
to the commissioners of the United Slates, at tha
tiine of signing the ttf-.'ty, though n#t incorporated
.nlo the instrument, would have hem binding upon
tlic British government, and would have been a suf
a< ient guarantee to ii> aguinst abases. In all this,
tin* British gosernm nt did mr.niiest, tout their ob
ject vids, to have the service of their awn, and not
<>i American teamen.
liut ti the propositions os '.lie part of Great Bri
tain were not adequate to the desired purpose, could
m.t something effectual have been devis-d by »ur
ministers? There certainly is not an insuperatila
difficulty in tins business.
But admitting that the propositions of the Bri
tish ministers wi old not have been effectual to all
intents. \. as this a sufficient enure j’or the rejecti
on el u treaty, by which certain benefits were se
cured l rl h-- artn Irs were not permanent, and its a
duption would have sacrificed no principle on oar
part. When it expired, we 3i.uuld be in our origi
nal situation, having waved no right, and probably
being able to treat upon .1 better toutin''. If the
treaty was nut absolutely such as we could have
wished, was there any probability of gaining better
terms, by negotiations, or by compulsion? We have
tiied one species of compulsory measures without
affect.
I he consequences of the rejection of this traaty
have been, mat we have lost the carrying trade,
that we have suffered two year3 tioin the suspension
cl commerce, that our country has been impove
rished, nur treasury exhausted, and, that we am
no.a upon the eve of war, iri the tnjst exposed and
-stenoeless situation. I say, that we are on the
eve oi war, because I d’u believe, that the (matures
which have been taken to irritate the British go
vernrneut, will render an accommodation utterly
hop*iess, and because 1 believe, that the present
state cannot long continue. Indeed thu adminis
tration has succeeded in so involving cur relations
with ©real Britain, that war, or absolute dishonour
is inevitable. I trust that there is still remaining r.
• pint in the people of the I nited Stales to prefei
the former. And however we may censure the men
who Wave been the authors of our embarrassments,
it is the duty of every goad citizen to assist in is
storing his rountiy to honour and prosperity. It
the government will at last art with energy, it will
be supported. But to cull upon Federal men to
“ rally round the government," when the govern
ment is not true to itself, can excite no other emo
tion than contempt.
FROM THE NEW YORK EVENING TOST.
What ought to he the tone of the minority ; of the
Federal presses, and of every honest wan in the pre
sent crisis iff our affairs ?—I cannot proceed ano
ther step in the discussion I have undertaken, with
out stopping to take notice of a whisper ol discon
tent, which every now and then assails my ears,
from here and there s federalist, at the decided lone
of opposition to the administration, which this pa
!>ci omuiucu, un i wnim ii certiimly meant noi to
relax. Fai front believing that it is prsanaure to
begin, yet ; that it it best to wait tor events ; to
lay by till tbe popular tide shall have taken a turn
in our favour. I think it would be a dereliction of
duty, a want of honesty to listen to such councils
at such a time at this. I will not, for a moment,
withhold the exertion of all the abilities I may pos
sets, whatever they may he, in correcting the mis
representations which have been so artfully spead
and in icctifying the misunderstandings which have
been so industriously, zealously and to effectually
propagated. Now, in my judgment, it the time,
the very time, for every man who meant to his
country, to shew himself in her cause ; now, while
it it permitted him to speak out; now, before the
rubicon it passed; while the people by being right
ly informed, may be Wrought to declart their tenti
ments freely, to express their disapprobation open
ly, of tbe raab step which has been taken by their
rulers, and thus arrest tbtm in that ruinous course
which leads directly to the most dreadful calami
ties. ^es; now is the time, perhaps tbe only time
for tbe people to interpoee and stop them in their
mad career; a career which is hurrying them on
to a precipice, whence we are to be plunged head
long into all tbe borreurs of war ; a war on the side
of France, and aghinst tbe only power capable of
doing ut essential injury ; a power which is at this
moment engaged in nobly struggling in defence of
its libertits and law ; a poder which, animated by
the glorious desire of rescuing tbe civilized world
from universal despotism, is gloriously contending
*'%!• handed against the emperour and enslaver ot
Europe. Yes, against this nation, and on the aids
" - W'i ' ■ >r■' " j^r?'V-fyr vfzfffc
■ tiV;
qmror it It that w« arc now to be fo
volted in ai ruinous war. Let but the wbmiiiittraU
o»*goaded oo,a* it openly*. byVGiIes, instig«t.d,
®» it it, by * Lord Bote, lei it but once perceive
that the voire of opposition is boshed ; that it m y
calculate, if not on u unanimous s'tiiiiurt|4l Last
on encountering no formidable resi-t..ncem>ni the
people, and my word for it, not another week pass
es over cur beaus in peace. Is tht* then a time ta
remain silent ; to shrink in dismay from responsi
bility ; to adopt a whining ton* of moderation; to
proclaim in u cant of candour that at all evems we
must all rally round the goiernm til; upon peril m£
Using called tones, of being declared enemies to 00®
country and tbs (roads ol a foreign one ? Away
with sucb patriotism as this. No : now is thetiPKU
for every honest man, for every honest editor to lift
up hi* voice hit a trumpet, and try the last exertion,
ol such talents as God has given him to evert tha
mischiefs that hang over us. For mysell, I bold
the public entitled to whatever may be within tha
comp iss of my poor abilities, while^yet enjoy tha
freedom of speech, and while my press continues on.
shackled by the hand ol arbitrary power. I should
srorn mysell il I mold yield for a moment, to tha
suggestions that would intimidate me from the path
winch n>y understanding points out, us the only
true sue. *
From the Federal Republican.
FINANCE.
Mr. Gallatin has so far displeased the warlike
gentry as to have obtained their open and repeats !
mnsui e in tl:» \ irginia papers. They are of opi
nion that he has not done his duty by omitting to
develops the resources of the country for carrying
on a war Sonic Solly has discovered that at on.
dasn ol the pen he might have pointed out “ a mosl
no onous fact, that our pubhrk lands are uo.th
1,000,000,000 nr ten bundled million* of dollars!!!
As they ure afraid, thal he will not make this com
iminicaluin of his own accord, they are for “ cent
pelting him to turn every thing into dollars, hke
IftrM.das. No wonder, that this cauimcs an!
| a jip niiur.cier is unwilling to throw awvy his r.-pu
Ullju b? l»Jr«lf.Jng it upon .11 the lollies, crudities and
nnstntrment? ol a wretched set oi out laws train
common «mse. Mr. Gallatin will retire hop, office
aa<1 *e‘l%£''hem 'M fhe consequences uf their own in
dtscrr'.im*. U seems howrv.r passing strange, that
U,e Ta'”*' Albert Gsllatin, whose brilliant
e-BJ solid talents, whoso energy, pers-varanca and
for node hud, more than all the weight of Virginia
accumulated, turned the scale in favour of d.imi
crat.rl: policy, should he so fur hunted down as
they arc in the following extract from a ministerial
oracle :
“ J.»t Albert G illatin he called upon and he com.
pcl/cd to Uy before coneiess a complete devtlope
mcr.t oi the actual resources of the nation, without
any ipeculntion; nf his own.” Anwt
Tune was when the pickings and the bonotrs’of
Urns land were not given to the Smith’s ; when tha
doughty general was too happy in confining the
range of h.s speculating to h smJI contra,Uorship
uoutr government ; in being the tearless defender of
t.nmand end her commerce ugsiost commercial re
ftrtctions, wild grateful for the concealment of hin
disgrace .it Mud fort; when a small lawyer newer
dreamt or beiug Secretary of Slate, hut gave as
another Snyioek his early and nocturnal audience*
to the tribe of tw*, per cent, a month; when for
the first and only tunc in Bellimme shaving and la
I "S "treptriormed at on* operation ; when tbs
‘ pVf!e"t PrM,d*nt of the United States shrunk, (uS
some of theifer.iocratick papers informed us in thn
epnng o! lbOS) I rum the tiuits that tried min’*
souls—then it v.„s (hat th» speculations of Mr.Gal
‘“1“' wtI'i> t;ie unprrl“'8 ROMlf of the party, whosn
present disapprobation ol them is the strongest
prool of their degradation being near at hand. Hut
it is a maxim deemed infallible in the political
world, ilia! great exigences produce great talents;
r.nd £rtal talents we all know, naturally reproduce
great discoveries. Ii is no wonder, thereioie, that
the deir.ocralick ship being ready to sink, should
be found to contain among har crew wiser a„d
more sugacious financiers than this naiion ever be*
fore possessed, who have demonstiated, that the
national debt in placing whirl, i„ a tru;n j.raiiual
extinction. Hamilton spent tbe midnight oil, and in
, fulfilmentaud improving of whose expedients
the indefatigable and vigorous mind of Gallatin
£P'nl n:ne years without seeing th« work accom
plished— that the national debt is a mere dust in
the-balance compared with the productiveness of
one branch of revenue at present inactive.
lVt I TfMftTJP T
The pilot-boat sch r I laslj, <*apt. Mitxtgh, arrive
eo at New \ ork on Saturday morning; last in 51
■fays from Cadiz and 12 from St. Bartholomews,_
Saik-d ftom Cadiz November 1 Ith. The report of
the Toulon fiePt being at sea, had reached that port.
Loro Wellington, the British commander in chief,
bad embarked for England two days previous to the
sailing of the Flash, in the Dunm-gal, of 74 gun*.
Ihe report at St. Bartholomews was, that the Bri
tish were on the eve „f proceeding fioia Barbados
to attack Guadeloupe.
New York, Jan. 1.
, LATEST FROM LISBON.
Last evening arrived at this port, the ship Syren,
Doan, from Lisbon, which port she left on the 23d
November.
Captain D. informs us, that the ship John and
Edwajd, Burger, Irotn London ; and the brig Con
cord, I'linn, from Bangor, (Wales) both for New.
York, having been raptured by French cruizers, and
re-captured by the British, had both arrived at Lit
bun.
Captain D. further states, that it was reported at
Lisbon, that lord Collingwoud had ta^m m with *
French fleet coming out the Straits dHraltar, and
had destroyed 3 or 4 sell of the linl^Kd SO tran
sports—that all wag quiet at Lisbon, and no intel
ligence had been received of any recent battlehavin*
occurred between the British «nd French armies >•
Spain.
By the above arrival the editor of the Mercantile
Advertiser hat received a Lisbon paper of the 23d
November, from which tie following translation*
ure made. 1 *
_ , Lrsnoy, Nov. 82.
On the 28d of Oct. lord Collmgw.od, then o*
Cepe St. Sebastian, received news.by uae of his fn
fat*s, that the French Toulon squadron was out.—.
aexlday the fleet were ia sight of lord UiJ.ag.