Alexandria daily gazette, commercial & political — Alexandria [Va.], 1810-01-10 00:00:00, page 2

" For'the siist time it is now disciosed
- that the subjects, "ranged with this go
vernment by your predcceseor, are held
- hot to be within the authority of a minister
ctplenipoteutian', snd that not having had a
" full power distinct fro-it that authority,
his transactions on those subjects might of
'fightbe disavowed by his government."—
T is disciosure, so contrary to every ante
-cedent supposition and just inserence, gives
a new aspect to this business. if the au
thority at your predccessor did not em
brace the subjects in question, so as to
bind "this government, it necessarily sol
lows, that the only credeutiais yet present
cted by you being the same with those pre
sented by him, give you no authority to
bind it, and that the exhibition of a * full
me? for that purpose, such us you doubt
Kessnsi'efunished with, is become an in.-.
dign-wile preliminary to further-negocia- ss
don; or, to speak —more strictly, qu re
gtsiired in'the'ssfirseinstsoce by 'the view— of;
- matter now uisclosed by you. 'Nego-sss
tinued without this relimiuasy, would not?
only be adeperture, the principles of ss
_ efipfityct-which is 'theessentiai lnsis of it,'
butsiwould moreover be a disregard— of the '
- sisi si " _'ons and of the ends-respect ssenjoin.'
'- (loss-she attention omhe United States, by?
ctdefcmumsist'snces which have. hitherto tak-)
. " li.—"? . . . si . . ct ".
-_ ?Ipced scarcely add, that in the fuilj
Mydﬂudedﬄfua preliminary to ne-'
'dnion, is not intended to--besi.included
either the whole extent or any part of your
instructions sorthe miss of or. -.These
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ONTHE ilOlNT RBSOLUTION
JPProving the conduct af the Exemssfive
in "lation" to" the sii'zjsusal to receive "any
further; communication from France": 708.
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la committee of the vihele' Mr; BASBIT
in the chair— ct .
' -- [My-(Emetick Specch eantinued.]
ssssswilfhow 'prdce'ed, sir, (said Mr. F..)
to considersiss whether the exectt'tch in resus- '
ing to receive an'y'sar'ther communic union.-;
from the British ministersss has m'an'il'csfcd
a iuet re erd to theinterest os'thc Ameri
ean . -siI have already remarked that
it? into opinidn the true interest-'ofthe Coun
si try va: not'conb'ufted '55' or pmmoccd ssby
this mennes; it-reni'im then for me to ss
explain the " ondssscssvs' that opinion.
!: wotﬂd Huperﬂnous in me at th'ea
t'nmeto attempt to prove that the interest
of this country is best promoted by : state
os peaceand of 'sree'intercourse with (}.
Btz'sw'ﬂsi The mutual want: of the two sina
At
nmm'nfisspan—sisin .
s Asim U a L-ssssinb wox N.
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.-ct' . Dliﬄ Came. Gss'De'dm fer am.
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ctibnfidiight be brought to prove thispbutct
the genernljog oisithe country so audihly
expressed att e time it. was thought our
rentrictive'system as to that nntior': Was a- ss
bout to be nbandom d, is sufficient 'for my
purpoee, as it ehews as well the general
wish as the general sense of the commu
nity on this subject. lissthcn it is the in
terest andsssithc wis'n of the nation to be at
peace with Great Britain, it ought to be a
primnry poiutiu the policy us our adminis
tention to torm atreatv with that country
on juet principltl. Matters of etiqut-ttc
and peno'nd consideration; ought to give
Way to this greater ohjsict. ] cannot thete
fore think that the interest of the country
Was promoted by a resunl in the count: of
: few-day., to communicate with the man
vho came (mtensibly at least) to form a
treaty with us.
it he: been remarked, however, that
Mr.]aehon had no pth-r to treat, and
that ther-N'ere any farther communication
wirh—hlmsould answer no-detirable pur
[will not ask your attention to all
tho: placed beare-en Mr.\Sntith and Mr.
leek-on on thie point. but wiil- merely pre
Oentw you the call Which-Mr. Smith lﬂ-Nlt'
for the authority anthhe newer which Mr.
Jack-on gave.
Mr. Smith in hie letter os'the Ist os
November. ears-—
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ctCONGREsa si
House- or REPREszYNTA TIVES. ' si
- siTunmrsi-Dsiecember 19.
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Wfibm so,-(i, J'Alsil bctuw. 10.
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of 'cburse as Yotssrhave justly ret'narked, re
si main subject to your own discretion." -'
ct'- To this call Mr. ]nckson in his letter _of
th'e it!) of Nov. answerk— si _ .
" It win-not, ( datre' sav, hart escaped
!.your-recoiiection that ( 't _ armed you at' a
refer? ears); eriod 'of our'tmnnnunieadontss
that in 'a to [he-simnhi . credential' let
ter, his majesty had bet-plead to turn
me with a ittll power nndcﬂhe great seaT of
his kingdom, for the-express purposectof
concludttg a treaty or convention. t well
, remember your testisying your satisfaction
, at the circumstance, and ! have only now
to add that! am ready, whenever it 'suits
your convenience; to exchange my full
powers against that which you shali be pro
vided, for the progress of negociation.".
it is not necessary for she after the very
able and satist'actory explanation which has
been giVen by my friend from Conn'ecticut,
(Mr. Dana) of what is intended by " a full
power" in diplotnacy to show the authority
itcreates. Suffice it to say, that if Mr.
, ]acltson :had no such si authorization he
, might haveconciudedsia' treaty," and that he '
had, I am satisfied: He not only declared
that in addition to his letter of credence he
ss had a full poWer under the great seal of the
_ kingdom, but oﬀered to produce it. Would
such oﬀer have-been made if the thing had
no existt-nce. " the c-xecutive entertain
! ed a Suspicion of this kind why did he not
I take Mr.]acksonat his word. lnstead ctos
; doing this, the answer of" Mr. Smith is a ,
si dismissal of the negociation with the nego
ssciator. _ si
But iP*-Mr. ]ackson was empottser-d to
? treat, it is suggested it was on ternss dero
ss gatory to the homr and inconsisrrnt with
, tne interest of the country, inasmuch' as
{ his instructions bound him to insist on the
' " three conditions"as the basis of his ne
! gociationsi One of -.hese 'conditions you
3 will recallect is the absolute reiinquishment
] of the coloniai trade as well indirect as di
sirect, and another is the authorization of
? the British navy to enforce our intercourse
: system.
' Now on these'terms [never would con
ss clude a treaty with Great Britain. 'Nay [
; can hardly forgive our secretary sor hia'of
\ ficial assurance to Mr Lrskine, as l find
ss it in the letter of that gentleman to-Mr. S.
of the 9th of August—** The third condi
' tion you certainly,- very distinctlctt' insormcd
] me could not be recognised by' the presi
si dent, but j'ou added, what had great
si Weight in my mind, that you did not see
i why any great importance should be at
) tachetl to such a recngnition ; because it
) would be impossible that a citizcn of the
United States could preser a complaint to
his government on account of the capture
of his vessel while engaged in a tratie ah
soluctely intcrdicted by the laws of his coun
try.
This was certainly grnnting the right by
impiicatinn. But is it true that Mr. jack
snn was bound to insist on the three condi
tions. Let the correspontlence answer the
question. - ! know that Mr. Smith to the
end insisred that he was; but in my judg
ment. it is another of his mistaket.
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Mr. Smith in his first letter of the 9th of
October, atutt-s among other things, that
the praidcnt had learned with surprise and
regret, that Mr. jackson had avowed " that,
;it all events, it is not the disposition or the
intention of the' British government to re
toke their ordere in-council, as they re
spect the United States, but upon a formal
stipnlntion on the part of the United
si- S.at< s to accede to the following term: and
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" 33 That the United State; shall expli
citly renounce, during the preeent war, the
right of carrying on any trode whateVer,
direct or indirect, with any coluny of any
enemy of Great-Britain, iron: which the
were excluded during peace; and' that (bll
renunciation must extend, not only to the
trade betwen the colony and the mother
country,. but to the trnde between the colo
ny and the United Statea," and requup
Mr. ]nelcaon to correct thia statement is he
had been-minepreaented. _
Mr. Jack-on in his anon-er of the Ilth
o!" Gctober, says:
" On the-subject of his" majeaty'actorden
in council. .! have had the honor -. inform
ing youthat his majeaty having caused to
originate in Aniericnn authoritiu and o. .
be made to the government of the United'.
State: certain propoeals founded upon prin
ciple-, come of which nere underetood to
then to- be acquieaeed in- by- then—and
having afterwards entertained, in sunne:
" 2. That the navy of Great Britain he
authorised to aid in enforcing the provi
siona us the said act of Congrees.
" let. Thatctthe act os Congren, com
monly called the non-intercourse law, be
continued against France, so long as she
shall continue her decrees.
conditions, vil..
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son soys; because they were supposfct ac
; ceptahle to our' government, but as this was
i discovered to he sounded in mistake-., he
si was instructed not to renew thema D.),sis
' this look like an adherence to the T' three
conditions" es-rhe basis of a treaty ? But
Mr. jackson is still more explicig he was
not only instructed not to renew those pro
posals, but he was even directed not to
press upon this government the scceptance
of an arrangement which it had declined.—
- And yet, sirt in contradict'ton to this state
ment it is insisted that though Mr. ]ackson
was not instructed to renew the propossl Or
press its acceptance, 'et he was bound not
to form a treaty which did not embrace the
three conditions. ' Is this a fair deductiou ?
But in the latter part x-f the same letter, as
is fearfui that he might stiZl he misappre
pernded, Mr. ];ickson goes on to say :
, **Such,sir,-are the ground: on which it
s has appeared to his majesty to be unnecu
sary to command me to propose to the go
vernment ofthe United States any formal
agreement to be substituted for that which
his majesty has been under the necessitv of
disavowmg ; but I am directed to receive
and discuss with you any preposal which
you may be authorised to make to me on
ss the 4th section of your letter, and the three
? subdivisiuns of it. Such : ststement would
deep regret, that your instructions contem- {
plate, neither an explanation of the refusal ]
of your government to fulfil the arrange- (
ment of that branch of the existing diﬀer
ences, nor the substitution of any other plan i
ol adjusttnent, nor any authority to conclude I
any arrahgement on that subject ; but mere- (
ly to receive and discuss proposala, that 1
might be made to you on the pair of the
U. States; and these, it appeaia, mmt in
clude a stipulation on the part of the U. 8.
to reliqquish the trade with the enemies' co
lonieegeven in branches not hitherto inter
ruptedzby British orders for capture, and
also a unction to the enforeing town of
-Congress by the British navy. = .
," Were the way properlygopened for for
mal propositions from this government," a
knoiyn determination on the part oshis Bri
tanmc'mejesty to adhere to such extraor
dinary pretensions, would preclude the
hope of Men: in such advances, whether
regard be had to the conditions themselves,
or to the dieposition they indicate, in return
for; the conctliatory temper which has been
evinced Bythe U. S." '
it is not charitable to think thesecretary
could entertain a Fish, that Mr. ]ae'km
!
moniidnddjc a so.-m." _
that the sentimemsol tho'-Amencsu gu
vernment were so diﬀerent from what t ey
were. at first understood to he, ] was not
instructed m renew to you those press-lids,
mn- to press upon your acceptanu- sn ar
clined, especially asss the arrangement-itself
is'become less inherit-Mr!" the terms Us
it iez'lssapplicable to the state ot ming-t now
existing." . -
rangement which had been so necsneiy de
(THE ncau.
" As no disposition has hitherto heen
shewn on your part to make any such pro
posal, it has been impossible for me to state
by nnticipation (nor was ] instrnthd so to
do) what might be the answer, that ( should
eVentually think it my duty to return to
you ; consequently ( could not have mule
with that view the statement contained in
sufficient oegative to
secret-ny. siThe pit-upon
have been ohviously inconsistcnt with the
former part of my over-ture, which you very
correctly record in the 2d section, viz : that
l was not instructed to make to you any
proposal whatever upon this subject. ]
must necessarily reserve, until ! hear from
you, What [)sOPsIIRlS it may be dsirtned pro
per to make on the part of the U. State s, to
state in how far they do or do not accord
with the instrttCtiotts, which it has pleased
his majestv to give me for my guidnnce in
this negociation.
" I will only ndd, sir, in conclusion of
this letter, that his majesty is very sincere
ly desirous of tnaintaining a perfect and cor
dial understanding with the U. State-s, and
of bringing to a complete and mtisiitctory
adjustment of the points of diﬀerence that
have arisen between the two governm-ctnts ;
and that cgreeing as I do with you, must
heartily as to the interettss which both na
tions have in foster-ing a mutual and solid
friendship and cordinlity, no 2te or exer
tions shall be wanting on my part to c-..rry
into eﬀect his mnjesty's command: for this ct
most salutary purpose." ss
Now, sir, how is this received by our go
vernment? Are they satisfied with this ss
correction of their statement, and do they
proceed to specisy their terms? Let Mr.;
Smith answer. ln his letter of the thh of 3
Oct. he speaks thus : l
conditions were made originally. Mr. ]aek- ss
" On the subject of the orders in council, (
the President perceives with sentiments of ssss
.. lnrhis sentence,- as I read it, there ;, a si
the statement of our ;
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part of his thief.."
is with the three ct
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.' 'sssipsnerenty.
sssiceptabless "" Beyo'nd this point (say. 11.)
. ", auetitutinlsi for notions of good under.
. scipsitthtsittonl on which a real reconciliation of
i glsidissmuo oft? he substamialiy founde-si
. And may authorise me not to renew pro
! " This came seem-ment is contained si
your letter us the ch instant. and repssi'
suntcd as the substance of what had fall!"
smm me in our previous consercnces- ["
3 my answer to that Idtter I took the liberty
of shewing tiut such \ supposition in: es
, fonrcus, and -l have. lnuk- d in vain to "3!
lettrr osthe Me]. to find in it any luggcsziuz
of : similar tenor. ' I believe; tht'scliircss
3 that by relk-rcncc to my twssi'lu-uers you w'"
ss, find! shut the statement n-iw n-gain hrwcttq"
sifOlWJsd is contained in sincithss of Full,
\ that it made no part ot'my prcvinui c-H'
versations with son. and that ! have in 11)
TN:-,! five): roam la mapct'wsc ! ever made all]
such state-ment a! as}. .
" That before he: (mien-in council 6"
!): rcvol'rd, their object. mctdctsi be: obtaincti
m somcother way, is unquestitin'issisy cm-i
but you may he aqsu- si-Ei, sir,' ii.-!! t/m-c .4
m wis-!: whact'ewr (n'am-ned in li'ttg'de-sii
that th; British !!(Z'tf; us!"/si}: gur/u'si)';si'./ !1
(menting-a saw cj' (;ssn,*grenss. " (in: p?"
WII that Was made !tpcm that .ubjrct, ZL'li
made, as you us;-w kn-nw, because :: W'ss
b'ctsiss'ﬂ'd to hsie'sincreiukvli him had basif'
"flowed. him"! had hero-us.- : matter oisi cv-"ct
siPaU'lssHTchnss me arm countries, an] ther:
3! Pins no! Us the law of Congrezso 5)"
L "I? [wi-lie but Bimiing upon both param
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find!!! mer; [thy Of K'Q !, by the inn-o.
sistate as a preliminnry .10- 0280'30'500- Why
amid, osshe..**'ihree conditions." And he
why this renewed state.-nen: against me ,__si
viouu meaning of the t--r*me nf Mr. hctsi
son"! Winter; but ! wsil not farther cozsi.
siidn't'e vot'tr-tiune'hctvfrr'ﬂrctionc which mass
suggeit theﬂeelvssea to every mind. '
Mr.]ichon in his letter of the 23; ,;
Oetober, repenta'thnt "he was not authorigd
to renew prhpoeaia already declared um.
Mr. ]ackeon's statement he did not come to
form another arrangement adjusting our
diﬀerence: partially; but to conclude a con
veotion whereby there might be a real sc
conc'tliation of all diﬀerence-o between t'rc
two countries. Now. us the " three ran-ii
zsimns" had been deemed inadmissihle lctr
the president, it does not nrpiar to me to
have becn Very exceptionzhie in his- Jack
svn to say, that not withing to prop-m tfct
us what might he deemed improper, he de
sirt-z the prupotitions to came from us mi
glnully.
Let us now attend to the replv ns Mrss
Smith of the lzt of Nov. Alter up,-akin
of the (lisavmvnl and the ten-on: assigne
sor it he adds, th." he her. " to' ri-sij'fi-t'tlw
each consideratiom thouiel have been nllnu
ed to outWeizh the s-zlsid ohjccti-im to th
. --.it'ownl5 it h:in'; tutders'oud atthe sn'n
tune that his lh'li-o-onic majesty persevere;
in roquiring as in.):"rpcnmble conditions at
the part of the U- S. ttn m'ire rclinquishss
ment of the right to tt-zule with ensi-mits
colonies, and nlm up.-rmisrp'an to the: Btit
ish navy to aid in entreuting a law of Con
grete; pretemions. which cnnnut but no
tlt'l' nhurtive all propo-alt whsttu-t'er upm
this subject, whether mud- by the U-S
or by his Britannic majesty."
! will close this exuntinution of the cart
rctpondenre hjt' [are.—cutting you with a pin
of" Mr. jet-law?: lent letter of the 4sih 01
November.
You say " that it in understood thin
his Britannic mrjsety p-raeveres in requir
ingna indwpsi-nsihle cunsilitiom on the pm
of the Unized St.-tes, an entire t'elinquuh
ment nsthr. right to trode with the enss-mi-s
eoloniel. and also : peruitimiun to the Bri
tish navy to aid in executinz : law of Con
nren." .
my instructions are P'WPfcsiVC ; they look
sundi erroneoualy entertained, P'actica
poaala which have already be?" dsi'Clared
here to be 'unacccptable, but to receive tnd
discuss ivy propoeal made on the part of
the U. S- and 'eventuallyv to conclude a sin,,
vention between the two countriez. m,
not of conne intended to call upon me "
is the whole extent of those instruction;
theybmuet, as I have before said, sang.
subject to' my own discretion untill am ".
ubled {o apply them to the overturee which
] may have the honor of receiving. from
vou."
Here, again, we find Mr. ]achon re
peating that he did not come to renew
poaala which had been declared unaccepn.
ble. But it has been remarked, that he
speake not of making other propoeaie, be
of receiving propoaitiona from our govern
ment, and that the usual conne of negociz.
tion required him to take the first step. !
will not atop to uncertain thia point, but you
will recollect that by "the ctdiaavowal the up.
rangement was considered by the British
government as at an end, and according to
. 'hity'tsiefiiecun ' on lﬄ
LYhÞM I now-( w w
amend, that-fish 'dss'ncnuio'n mnn he