Virginia Argus — Richmond, Va., 1810-01-12 00:00:00, page 2

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OR A TORY.
The -e-'rtrr wil* be amuaed Ky th- pe
u*al of an uvtracL '* on lo ig speeches,
iom an Eastern paper,—(1 am *ony t\.r
( do no. remember rrAac paper it >s.) I
eo«* its ju >t and fmcible ob'C1 nations,i
and is a strong caveat against proliKt*y
ft ought to be d'.d Ci'erl to c * *,,d»
»ho knows, but it might relieve us fr- o>
many n uisipd and t;iesatno harangue
..—. There arj, l believe, as few i;-od <v j
ramrs, a* poem and »l i* curi.iui to Ob
serre how •'early theie cl>a aolers ep
pr»*ch each o lirr. The ‘•amc cm'iw
imagination which enlitenv (nay tvnsti
to-ca) poetry, is the giev*- embellishment'
cl cvxl.n. nra'ory. Though a man he.*
solid reast.i.er, yet, if he can Uw no.hingl
bat reuinn, the c rat or, pitted again''1, him j
vould bear ibe palm away. Ani**, on
jay*» tr« a1? had m>t the bis! of the a {pi- •
rrtnt ; dut h s warm and impressive ora
t v bore down all before it- W hat save
of time it is to weave syllognmi., to
catch tame reason ! The orator i>y s'ri.
ki«tg at the heart, enlist* the afTevt^ioi.s,
chains the wi.l and leads'h ca;vi*e wb«
Ibersnever be please*- 1‘ i* one thing lo
c nrnce ; another to fiertunae^to convert.
A, rhyme is not the essence of poetry i '
so words, mere words. wiH uevrr pass a i
moftgst ** «-«»n of skilh * far elotjueuce j
It some of our congressional echoes would
r-flefi on these things, mi^ht havC|
fewr" nordt and mote ora/cr^—as well
as a c\i t,n.
From an Eattem Print•
ON LONG SPEECHES.
The Prncss of Grecian and Roman e
hxpie ‘C.« v ere Drmosthane* and Cicero
Toe orators of the former were nervou#,
full oteneigy and fire, and remarkable
for 'heir brevity. The language of Ctee
,r» v.v.k ir» .rt rmbelli'hed and diffuse, and
th- tncitnt critics censured him Gr kiu
pc fluky of ao'di ai d spinning ou h;s o.
ra io-'S io a led:'us leng.h. V t mast of
the oration* xi Cicero, as ‘-hey now ap.
pear in-print, fill cr.ly tbir-en or fourteen
miutV) pagrs ».nd weie aouu ihret quar.
ters rl an hour, perhtp., in the dtlne y.
His long philippic .gai. st Ma k Anthony
nrts n v r spoken, uo: ttv.e ded obespo.
kerv. Excellent as k is, and with all h..
eech&ning powers of ors*o y i; ts qurs.
tioriable wheth-.r Cicero hiru>ell C -uld
have ds’.iver. d it before a Roman audie-.ce
wi'lv-Q' giving them weariness from i,6
prolixity.
Tlie immortal Chatham- whose elo
quence sfco k the British vena e. w« fa.
med noi f r th- length bat for the irrt
sis b'e force of his sp^ectict ; which
J r!<5r:g f - >*ij p iu,«.u uupi.«, were
commonly net mere than for y or hi v
mnu eslo.ig & sometimes much shorter.
Roll h.isbern lammed that tl.e Biu
tsah eratorti of the present age, rejecting
the nv dels of Greece and Rhine and the
example cl'rheir own illustrious Chatham
hare lab-uitd o be proiix ra lie than fur.
csbie. In D »dsley*a A*itual Register, taO(J
»t is ren sil J. “There is nothing mire
preposterous than to seek the flame ol
eloquence by prtlixiy. Gra didess, con
viremg tiuih e *a m and gener u» fecit.i
menu, are qu.rkly corornuiiica ed from
ruied io mitio vm h »he swiftness of light,
i.ing. 'f he on»iiO:i* of Gra'lan• v»tu:d
lose their charittv and effect hy dilation
The umr. is certainly net far disatv,
when ail speakers in Parliament, who p6s.
•ess sou,<d taste and judgmen*, will be as
studious ofb’cvnv asmoilofour p»e3en
ora ovs a>-c ol diffusion/*
Rui if dies-: a.r-6\o(js are perune.t auo
Ippl’cablt, as u respects the orato.s o.*
Great D vain thry aie more emmen.Ty
so in M.fermct' to some ot the public
• _ r ___jm.... 'm.. fi—*
"I"' .... . w urn '-*•■
t-.d States a-e more remarkable lor loop
spe<cli«.sthan ary other portion, perhaps
of he m de n or ar.cier.t world. VVt
I ave ie<d i f speeches ut '.be bur Gve ur
i ix hours long ; and speeches in con
gress r-ea *y pi ‘he same lcng;h. Mercy
de-end uv from this new kind of inunria
thjo i
I rauct ro’ fes» that I hate birt a little
b Mer opinion ut these tong ccngressionji
speech.e than I have of ihe bmp prayers
o- the old Pharisees ; as I cannot help sus.
petting ib&t the one n^v-eil as hr o har,
tv Ct/ntmociiy intended to catch the bp
(•Isos'* of iveo. If it be to. the speakers
..r< ntidir an egregious m’n'ake ; f->r did
•hr* expre«» themselves c .ncs-ily, pithily
and" always home to the pu’pooe, the tf.
b tt a'.iuld be vastly greater, ami their
own hor-oi •• orators proportionality high
er, than any that 'hey cio acquire Iron
v mc drawn harangue. & laborious attempts
Iv hd * bu hr I with sh«i might be eicwd d
ir. a rut thr.ll. But allawii g iheir mo'jvc*
to l»e pure and patriotic, s ill they wofuh
ly TAiss the rr.atk. Tluy l«y an miolle
» itKNNY CxAYTsx.the rival of Flood,
and the n on conspicuous member of ih<
lrnl» House of Commons. He was, in
his Kitiulun, the gfea-tM ormor (proba
bly) on earth, tv. n now, **i he.cd ant*
l>Sia.'y*ed as he is be the strike of a
there is not a single member of our c<*i
press, pvtM|tl, whose spetebrs willcn.
I du:e a (iiunpaiison with l.i*. 'lu Gnd any
thing | kc a parallel we must look into hr
Debates in th-.- Vug<nia C uventlon, 01
those of the glorimi* congress of 1776, In
the fervor of a rcvolo’ionary epoch, spark*
htii jivith light and fc»uwmg With he»«*
\Wi!!£•
Jrab! . fax rn ihc f.e'im»r and norm the
(purso of *l>f p:op e. lio-v oppressed t« »
jc- urtof justice, and especially th * jury,
w th unnecessary aud disgusting fa «g<ie (
'when a lawyer takes up two hours 10 sa
what in ghl have b-fco said u* » wl or be - i
er In 20 or So minutes. In congressthr
••.rievancc is still more heavy upon tht
people. The time consum-J there i
spree ben ih.il are either useless or drawn
out to an uonrcesssiv leu* h, is a prudi
i;al waste of if.*, propic’s money.
Vo an uuneceSS'irv leo*h. is a p. u ■
waste cf he ?-•» ; h*001^
—
the toiy portion of the eleven.h Co"».
K'CSi ,
Mj u gnrve and rrvertnd tfig mem .
> once published the subsequent con
,v and d riafcA c artxle : fut y«ur »«R M i
,c tc pub .sh it. Only thukut the task .
ou impose on the uude s o! ‘a,,<
ung —Ion* s[ et ches, who arc u "'n»c<>
i Ua:ch .or uo trains or wheal in v
rJ3htl , f c^/—Gen.Umrii,—‘ have jj;
no.cy u; on us, mi.eiuble"—rcade. * ,
The la' i p-'es dent \V\ her-poon was u
n tf cnis deiable hum m , t.s »•»» «* V
learnii * and P»«ty- a ,J P s-ca 8 , ;
pny tab n. ot ms iuc\irg n Ins own pe
j, r •*;«>. AiSemblin* h s pumls'>» a
i lain d.v, he add esstd »U««n in his j
;0 ti-h d ale cl, af er the : How ng man.
5ft I *
i‘Y->uner Cienilemco, it i» p*.ob-ble that i
i c u*se ot your iiv-s ye wi t b. J
F en e ll d to apeak in public*, snt* horn ,
te pcl.nt, and some at the bar. It there \
»re berm s mr duty to give •» lcVk
[o«d-,h‘ w, y ot advice, on that irr.pu;- .
Utsuhiaci. I shall comprise the whole B
ft m* d-courre under two heads, or.u .
'hall be v 'V brict upon bo h. In [ .
[.st place, take care that ye never bee
n to speak un 1 ve ha e somethin* t°
• .r-.l « coudlY. b* sure to leave cl
| CONGRESS.
IN SENATE.
H ; ilnead iij, January 3.
I Mr. Smith, of Maryland, presented a
I memorial from the diiecAors of Ire Union
i Bank of Geor etow i, praying to be tnc'ir
j pom ed Refcned to Messrs. Bren
! Gregg. Pope, binith, of New York and
| U> adleY.
I A m si.age was received f on '.he Prr
jstdciu of -he U. S (for which see ihe
I last Arpns ) wh-cti was retrrrrd to
Messrs. Giie , Pope Bradley, Goodrich,
Lcib, Su'.uier and Gilman.
January 4.
The ^cna'e rtsumed «he considera ion
of :he bill, making lur,her provision for
he corps of Engineers, which on motion
;f M German, was poa’.pontd till the last
I'uv>day in t»-i» month.
January, 5.
Agreeably to notice, Mr. Pope pre
heated a bill For the improvement of the
United States by public roads and ca
nals.
Mr. Giles subr.i't^d the fallowing
mo :un.
Unsolved, the IIous;j of Rerresentti
tativeb c incurring therein, that a joint
committee be appointed to present to
the Prcbident of the United States the
joint resolution of the two Houses re
specting the conduct of Tran is James
Jackson his llrr.anic majesty’s minis,
t.r Plenipotentiary near the United
States, and that the c6.»rnutee on the
,<«rk of the Senate consist ut
members.
C25* *
HOUSE OP REPRESENTA
TIVES.
Friday, January. 5.
Mr. Vandyke appeared and took Iris
3cat.,
Mr. ro' tlras presented the petition
of tiic Piraixlent and Directors of the
Or lea to; Navigation Company, praying
yhe erection of ;< lighthouse.— Refer
red.
I lie committee of Public Lands, to
whom was refer red the petition of Ja
cob Garret, made a report ut his favor,
and aJso reported the foUowifog resolu
tion
KesoV^d, That from and after the
1st dav of J me n*. xt. any person mv
king application t6 the register of any
of ti*« 1 »n l offices of the United States
. /or the purchase of a tract ol land, shall
produce to him a memorandum in
writing, stating the the number of the
section, half section or quarter, as the
case may he, and of the township and
range for which he shall make applica
tion, subscribing his u;im j thereto,
which shall be fib tl ?< preserved by the
register in his office.”
Tire report was agretd to b referred
to tlie committee to bring in a bill.
RULES b ORDERS.
On motion of Mr. Smilie the Ifouse
reso.v^d itself into committer: of *’ie
nhole on the report id' the committee
appointed to report r*ih>« and orders
■for the governnaenttT the HMise.
This report contfliv; tue following
amongst othrr mb s ;
The previou* ipirstion shall be put
in this form? M Stall the main questi
on he now put?’* It shall <>aly be ad
mitted vr .cn demanded by one-fil.h of
/ *
the members present, an!. If-! liJcd
in the a:iir>nat.ve, shjdibt; inttamiv put
without amendmentor fnrthri* debate,
hot if decided in t&ci 'ileg.vlvc, the bu
•iaess shall progress as f the oreviou
question h:;J not been called.*’
On a previous question there shall
be no debate.”
Mr. J.ivenn ire moved to strike out
the first of these inles.
This motion was suppovt-d hy
Messr?. L v- rmore, tlardenier, Quin
rv, Shvffev, Ely, Pickman, Wheaton
Dana and Emott, and opposed by
Messrs. Rhea, Basset, ItS nadir,
southard, R iul, Ifindlcy, W. Alston,
rtoot and John-ton.
The arguments in f nr our of strk
ng out the rule relating to the previ
mis question were, generally, tiiat it
had f*r its object the abridgment of
the freedom of debate, and was fol
lowing t >o closely , die practice of the
British Parliament; that ih‘n House
bein ; constitutionally a deliberative
assembly, it was not f r toe majority
to say thus fur shall d but- be permit
ted, anti no furth r—for, if they could
do thi<, thev had the same right to say
that the mino iti should have no w'ice ;
that it would preventthc minority from
shewing the enormity of the doings of
the majority, and would shroud tlirir
acts in the mantle of darkness ; that nt
present much time might indeed be
consumed in useless debate, but that
this evil ought to be regulated hy a
sense of pr prietv and not by a rule
of the House ; that if this rule were a
dopted, the most imports <t measures
might be drei led without a word of
: debate, although on hearing arguments
gendemen might have changed their
opinion of them ; that this rule might
remind the House of the circumstance
that when the Abac Sieves had pre
sented a constitution to the considera
tion of Bonaparte, the conqueror was
charmed with «he feature of a Dumb
L.cgisla>ure ; tnac legislation wuroui
debate was always favorable to c\ ran
ny; that the introduction of a rule pro
viding for the previous q icstion was
not even necessary for the purpose
which its advocates had in view, for,
| from la e experience, it was known
that whenever the majority were ciis
[ posed to force a question they had it
i ia their po ver so to do ; that such a
| rule was unconstitution d, because the
constitution forbade Congress to re
strain the freedom of speech, and il
they could not restrict the people in
the freedom of speech, much less sure
ly could they abridge that previlege in
this House, the sanciury of liberty;
that every member of this House had
a r:gh; tn deliver his sentiments on any
subject before the House, and could
not be deprived of it ; th it this privi
lege, like the freedom of speech, was
productive of some evil, but the mo*
i meat either was restrained, such re
I sraint was an invasion of the princi
| pies of free government ; that the rule,
| however colored, amounted to this,
that no member of the minority should
! be allowed to speak until a vote of per
| mission for that pu pose was first ob*
J taint’d from the majority. It w s ask
ed, would the renovation in the public
councils have been effected if the
freedom of drbute had not been
permitted at the time whrn every
thing was going to ruin? ' If such a
rule had been proposed in 1798, the
nation would have been told, by
those who now support this rule, that,
it was ’lie vr'al stab to liberty. 1 hat
which h.ul been wrong yesfertliy, w»a
wrong to-day ; that which would have
been wrong in one majority could not
be right in another. JU was also s lid
by s. veral of iho supporters of Mr.
Livermore’s motion, that the rule pro.
posed to be stricken out was at war
wi h political liberty, incompatible
with freedom of debate, and in defi
ance of the spirit of th^ constitution ;
that majorities, who could not be sup
posed to be wholly exempt from ilu
infiruiid-# of hum'an nature, mighi
from the influence of passion rush Head
long into a measure without the least
con .-deration ; that rapidity was not so
much *n object in legislation as w«s
ilom, and a multitude of laws o ten
proved an evil; finally, tint this rule
at the present tiuv* particularly oughl
not to be adopted, nr. the House might
sh rily have to decide the question ol
peace nr war, on which much delibera
lion undoubtedly would be requisite.
On llie other hand it was remarked. in
support of tho ml*?, thst tli evil intended
to be guarded ng.unst by it was blended
prrhao* w.th some of the best aensjiiom
of the human mind, a perseverance m what
is deemed ri^bt by each, and that the
I question what was right could hot be de"
j Cid'.d oy any d reel s.andnrd to wb ch the
, tun an min.I can res rt ; that It t* the
• principle ot this as of every free govern
I riicot that the majority snail rule, and,
' without nssuuurif; did t'ne majority is at,
j wayi? right us iktuion was the best stand
ard l»> which they c grid res >rt ; that the
pnij rity, Ix-iri; responsible far all met
jMttc* adopted, ought not to be prevented
Ikacting til too l-i'e by n detciMu/i d
oppos lion ; that »t the m amity Infringe
ithc right of-he m to govern, there
<i».:taU. l*e some rule thx vloUll*
on of the principle# of the government ;
thr>t thte privilege each member possessed
'f delivering his sentiments, however pre. i
ci»us, w.\s not »«> valuable »s the right
which ench n.ember possessed of acting, and
tne restrict «n of this privilege would not
be so alarming a- the destruction of the
gnu rmnt-ht, which might be the conse.
<ju nee, as ttie rules of the House at pre
►ont stood) if the minority were obstinate,
ly bent on preventing the House irom act.
ing : that althouirh tltc project of a dumb
legislature miv,l»: have charmed Bonaparte, i
he newr would have had an opportu - i
nity to approve any constitution, had it not
been fur the anarchy, confusion and unre
strained licent.* usnevi wh ch prevailed in
the National Convention, and wii>ch Fi ial_
ly destroyed it—amnd u was to prevent
►ueb anarchy and-abusfe of the freedom of
clena c that this rate- bad become necessa
ry ; that minorities to * vver-s subject to the
j failings of mankind, and that passion might
operate upon them, when a most urgent
In w was to b* pa-sod. by speaking for six
hours at a time, solely to prevent the legis_
lature from acting, fr >:n doing that for
which they were expressly chosen y - that
there wac no fear oi tUa measures or ac’s
of the majority living v- iUd hi darkness,
lor supposing (what was very improbable,)
au abase of the rule, the pra.s was open to
every m m and could not bo restrained ;
[ that the idea «*f tbc uncon sti'ution d<ty of
I sucii a rule was • >urd. ror the same mode
o. argument would prove that the House
, bad uo right to pi event an) member from
I speaking more than twice to the s-unc
j qu stmn, although tne constitution declares
I th it each House may determine tne rules
1 of its proceedings ; that experience had j
j shewn tint suc.i a rule w .s necessary to
j prevent the consumption oi the time of the
j H use by u nu ut icr’s spe .k ng foti-, five,
j six or e grit hours merely fur tire purpose j
’ of spinning out time, an l moving to adjourn,
| calling the Yca» and Nays on rhe mr.i.w !
Itogive hiuiseli time totak-* breu h, end then j
making frivolous motions tor 'he purpose
| of speaking still longer u.t them—tbit, in j
order to cio the pualic bus n ss, it no such !
j rule was adopted, it would be .necessary
for the people t» select thc.r representa
lives, not tor me sueiijh ot meir intellect
but for the robustness of ituir constitutions
ami their capacity »>f enduring fatigue ;
ibrtl tbe abate of the freed in of debate had
become so flagrant us to impede all public
business, u less those desirous ot do.ng it
weul * sacrifice their health ami perhaps
l tbnr l<ves, in sessions o; n netted or iweiu
I ty hours in length, atid these t >o after a
subject Ir-d been debaed ten or twelve
{days. It was also s .id that this was no
I new me ; that it had existed m this body
1 with various m >dificuii>>n, since he con*
i utcuretneni of me goverxwenc unt;l w.thm
. two years, When the decision ot the H .Use
: had done it aWay in practice, though i« still
remained m tlw rules ; dial it had exsed
\ in the British l,*ri|%tn?nt ror two ceutu.
ri?s ; th it argument again ■: a rule or law
j drawn from the possible abuse of it, would
go io the desti Ubtion of all law and govern *
! ment ; ttiut this rule hud never yet been
• arbitrarily enforced and probably never
} would, ns its object was more to remind
mem hers ~.{ the propriety o. cohc'diug a
little to their fellow, members and tre it»ng
them wi h decor an, turn for the purpose
of actually putting an end to debatu • that
r.o majority w uid improperly u.e the rule,
bee.use, it they did, they were respond
b!e to tne p-f.»p e for it, who w mid no: tat!
to redress the evil. The novelty in this
case was said to be, no: that such a rule
should liaveb.cn proposed, hut that, alter
having existed under every administration,
it should now bs moved to reject i .
| The opponents of tne rule replied, that
this rule was wholly different fro.u the f<>r_
| mrr rules on the subject, an it t xcludu
debite on the previous as we.I as on the
• main question. It wa3 also s dd that the
l doctrine laid down that the majority should
govern was an arbitr.iiy doctrine. Il was
natural for majorities to se:X to encreuse
tr.elr power. It was true that tile people
| might app.y the corrective to abuses of
■ power by me majority ; but it in.gut as
well be said, after a violation of the right
j of habeas corpus had deprived the citizen
I of h.s liberty, or after an ex pout facto law
had swept him off, that some twenty years
In nee the people would apply the correct
I lv. A maj >ruy might set out with the
ht»t views, but might do acts to produce
the most disastrous consequences. The
nri jority always did wrong when it took
means to silence opposition and to humole
those who opposed tnem. This had been
the doctrine ten years ago of those who ad.
voc ited this rule, and it was the correct
doctrine still. It was said that the argu.
ment that tue licentiousness of debate tiad
desiroyed the government ot France, as u.
st d in support of this rule, might remind
the House of the Hmerman who cut his
throat to save his life. The House then
is called upon to destroy the principles of
freedom in order to prevent slavery. If
theinijority hid a right to prevent the
minority from express.ng their opinions,
they had th« same right to send them
home, to banish tnem from the capi.
to!.
This debate was continued In a warm
yet desultory manner till 4 o’clock , when
on motion of Mr. T.ilbnadge, the commit,
tee rose, 65 to 27, rep »rtcd progress an J
obtained leave tos t again.
Saturday, January 6.
Mr. ]%ppes Irom in .• committee of Ways
and Meins, asked and untamed leave to
present a bill -to revive and continue in
lorce the first section of an act entitled
** A.» act mrther to protect the commerce
and team'll of the United States against
the Uarbary powers.” [This law laying
tilt duty commonly calico the Med.tcrrau.
cm iunj, expired on tlte lit nut. The
b l! now reported promises to continue it
i * ill he V.h March, Idll.J ihe bill was
i twice re.id and conmued.
i Mr. Uhea piesouted a petition from a
j nu n icr oi tue inhabitants of the territory
il oi b fit an i, praying tone admitted uun
in- s.con.l gr .tip oi government—Ucfcrrtd
to it teitct commit.re,
Mr. V*4ii dim pirtentad the petition oi
[the J*ie«ideot and D.irciors ot the Cun
j uicsctiu Company oj Ihs city of Washing.
Ion, praying for an r.ct of Incorporation —
and also the petition of a number c,f *iie
inhabitants of Washingt n county, praying
authority to make a road to meet .* roivl
in tne state of Maryland.—These petitions
were referred to the camimittee ot‘ the '
District oi Columbia.
Mr. Holland moved the following reso
lution, which was negatived*
“ Resol ved/Fiist the committee of Com
merce and Manufactures be instructed to
enquire into the expediency of encourag
ing the manufacturing of iro i by m iking a.
donation of a certam portion of 1 md to such
persons as may erect iron works within
the territories of the United States*. *•
Mr. Basset made the follow ng report ;
“ Toe conam.uee appointed on that
part of the President's me3$..gc relating 10
the tibVal estab ishment, tepur, n, p rr,
that they found that the frigates now in
ordinary was the only part of the subjtct
requiring Immediate attention. H s d>-s
the motives presented in the Secretary’s •
letter for an immediate reparation of thrift '' k'f
frigates, the evemfui situ uion of our counv
try furnishes u strung inducement to pla
cing those valua. ile sh.ps in a ante to aid
in the protection not of our ports only but
of those numerous exposed situations on
the water w.th which our country abounds.
The committee therefore n commend ibe
following resolution. Resolved th it the
hulls of the frigates now in ordinary ought
to be immediately repaired, and th «t
d liars out of any money it tne Treasury
je up iroprtated lor th s.me.”
£ Accompanying ths teport was a letter
of the Secretary of the Navy stating hi* o
(iln.on that the trigatrs m ordinary c«» re
quire m iterial repalrs—'.hat the increas
ing injury which will rt-suu iroin the:r re
main ng in their present situation may be
estimated at 30 per cent, for the fir- t year.
The tollowing estimate of tbc expellees of
• repairs' is also submitted t
* For repuiis oi vc*:ui* now in com
mission l5O,00tf
' Fur freight, store rent and
all other contingent expert.
75,000
' For the repair cf friga es
now lying in oicliuary aiu
keeping the gun b»ats that
are noun set vice in a state
of preservation, t c. 4.50,000
4 For freight a id other c -uin*
gent expences JOOOOO]
I his report wa> icfetred to a commit*
tee of the whol*-.
A leltei was also la d on the table Irora
the b-cielary of the Navy, transmuting
a icpcrt on the subject of the » Navy
Peusion Fund.*
PREVIOUS QUESTION.
The Howe again resolved itself into a
cum in ibsc of the whore on thr '<• v-i dn -j
business.
Mr L.<vermorc*» motion still tinder con
sideration—
Messis. Blaitdell, Gsrd.-nier ard ih con
supported, and Messrs. Ross and XvI’Rlc
opimed it.
• On lie question being iaken ihe motion
was negatived 5S ,o 47.
Mr Quincy moved to amend The rule
■ by striking ou'. 50.11c vvoids and inserting
othe.s, so as to make the rule similar o
fh&t wt'ich ha; herciidcre existed u i tins
Subject | Mr Rhea c*.Ud lor a tlivision'of
th - question ; and the house ,e.u.M to
Strike 00 the word., b'9 10 3fi.
Mr Bccoil m <v.d to 4!tiut;d the rub
by arldi.ig at tne end ol it tile o'ds on
jthc main quevitri,” so a» to ui! >.v the
‘ previous q le-tion ;o be debated — Nc'w
! nvtd, Ayca 2i,
; Mr Quincy moved to amend i< by yd-*
• ding the wotd* "but the previous quo's.
' lion »h ill ncvc. be put until every menu
her ivno (.buses to speak shall have spoken
j once on ihc inair, qacMk»:r."
.Nli Quincy and Mr. I'dimadge suppor*
led villa motion, and Mr. iL.ea and Mr.
! VV. Alston opposed it.
i Before the question was taken, on mo
tion of Mr bimlie, the committee rose,
reported progress and obtained leave to
sit again.
And the Houte. adjourned.
New Yorj^ Jan. 3.
IMPORTANT.
Extract of a letter from one of the most
respectable houses in London, io a part
ner of the house in tins cty, d ttcd
«‘Lo»;>owrf Nov. 7, 1809.
“ I am very sorry to inform you, that
letters have been received by me limn Na
ples of the middle of October, £imi<:h la
ter than our advices] ad vivo*; that all the A
mrrican vessels, entered at that port, have
been seised by special orders fiou> Pans*
1 recommend you to suspend all specula
tions to that quarte**, until more favora
ble intelligence is received.
1 litre is no don ,t in my mind that the
some system will b> extended to Tonningen
ami evtry port on the continent under Ilia
Ci'iitroul of France.’*
Lapt. Watson, of the ship F deli a, ar«
r ved here yesterday* sailed from Cad.x
on the toth ofNov. He inform*, Uiat E'.rd
Wellington was at Cadiz, where he arri*
ved about the 5.h Nov. M rqu.s Welles ey
was about ein larking on hoard the Dunne
gal, of 71 tuns,and <t is exp ctnlhe would
sh.J immediately for itaglmd. The Spin*
mil junta were still at S.v lie, anil it w.i#
diilv expected (hjy would do away the
'* < days qunrant nc on American vessels.
Indeed the quarantine Was a.ready Punted
at 8 days on all vessels from Holton and
several oilier ports.
Extract of a letter from Paris, dated Oc
tober 2b:
.,Ry letters rer.e vrd by EstaTeUt, from
' M*b"• I lenrn, that those American \es„
which have au.se.; m«re icceuily,
U; v- ’*«‘nput under v.pi strati fb n.nwith.
•lund.ng <the foy.il d.crre a Imiu.ng hem
tieciy. Nsmesof sud vessc.H i S.Vrllsn)
" ' n Prnwn of N Y. snip Hercules, West,
ol Saicm j bng Au^tma, .Vloort, ot Ualt