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The Lord Advocate reprobated the motion as an
abfiria proportion ; p^feAl, abftruce and unin
telligible, having no reference to any thing before
the house, and containing an allegation unfopported
by any proof whatever. He concluded his Speech
with moving, " That the Chairman report a pso
grefs, and al leave to fit again."
Being told this motion could not be put without
the content of the house he altered it, and moved
that “ Mr. Huffay have the chair."
Mr. T. Pitt fnpported the original motion, and
answered the learned Load's ebjeaions. In ikeclcfe
of his argument, he told the noble Lord in the blue
ribband, that the efforts made against him and his
mtafures by the fide of the house on which he (Mr.
Pitt) then flood, had kept him in place contrary to
the wishes of the nation, which he had reduced to
its miserable fitration.
Lord North, roused by this, rose to answer, and
in warmth of bis rep'y said, if he had been kept in
place by their efforts, it bad been by the efforts of
men who had often contended against the rights of
the people, and were now perilling meafurcs calcu
lated to overturn the constitution. These words
threw the house into a flame, and
His Lordship was called to orderin a tremendous
tone by Mr. T. Townfeud, who said. the noble
Lord bad no right to ascribe improper motives to
bis conduit, and that of the other gentlemen who
bad ailed with him.
The house was in an uproar for force seconds ; as
soon as he could make himfelf heard, his lordfh p
With some energy said, he had right to retort on those
who dared charge him personally as the author of
the misfortunes of the country.
On this Mr. Fox rose in violent heat, and ex
claimed that he would not fit still and hear the noble
^n'cb„, it was high time that they rented and
no-de atonement to their country. Let them stand
toward, confefs their crimes, and %o'o/cr to the
other fide. He disavowed having been ever indi
re&!y influenced himfelf, but owned, that had it
been possible for him to have forefeen the confequen
cea of the American war, he would have penihed
sooner than given a v ^.e for that measure ; that he
believed they had been in the wrong, and was the
matter to come over again, he would mo^ certainly
aft differently. He thought Adminifatioa had
#aed uprightly; he dd not believe they governed
by fraud and corruption, as the hon. gentleman had
Hated ; and whenever he ihould be induced, from
their conduit, to think they were wrong, he would
fay, "Good bye to you; 1 ailed with you as
long as [thought you right, bet I'll go no farther."
Mr. Martin and Mr. Rous (poke in favour of the
motion.
Lord George Gordon complimented Mr, Dunning
for his motion, and went into a confideradon of eve
ry part of that gentleman'# opening fpcech. In the
course of what he said, Lord George animadverted
on the dcArines laid down by Lord Nueent, and
declared the noble Lord had taken force pains to
colour his own conduit in that hcufe for many
years, but though he reformed him as a man he
could not but fay he had ever considered him frem
the line he had putfued in parliament, as the oid rat
of the conflitution.
Sir Fie cher Notion took the fame fide, and thank
ed hit learned friend for hit very able speech in
opening the motion for the resolution he had mrtv.
cd, which hedrclared give him the more fatifiAi
on, as it was so worded that it mus f neceffa^ly re
ceive a direlt affirmative, or direst negative. It war,
he laid, a refolu ion of fall, and would not bear ar
lament. Either the influence of the crown had ta
creafed too much, or it had not. If it h^d, the na
tural cenfeqrenre that refused muff be, that it ought
to be diminished ; and then the next confcquence
would be, tie mode of diminishing it, which he
prefamed his learned friend meant to pre vide for by
moving a bill or bills for that purpose. What his
intended resolutions for that kind might be, he knew
not, but he would trust him that they were fit and
proper for the occasion. That the influence of the
crown had inoreafed, no man could deny. It was
too visible to admit of an endeavor to conceal it.
In that house it had long been apparent. Those
therefore who thought with him, would vote as he
should, for the queftton. Those who thought other
wifs, would be reduced to the necessity of faying,
either that they did not think the influence of the
crown increased too ranch, or that they only thought
it had now reached its proper ballance, and got no
further. If any there were, who felt bold enough
to fay so, he wished them much joy of going down
to their con^ituenta with that opinion, and telling
them that they had voted their allegation made by
many thousands of the people of England, their ere
ators, who feat them to parliament, to be ill-founded
and falfe !
After some debate, leave was given accordingly;
and the Advocate then moved, by way of amend
ment to the main motion, that there should be inser
ted, after the word Committee, •' That it is necessa
ry to declare," The main question wzs thereupon
thus, " That it is necessary to declare.that the influ
ence of the Crown has increased, is increasing, and
ought to be diminished."
Mr. Fox assented to the amendment; but decla
red, that if ever he should set his foot in that Hxufe
again which was a mi:<r of doubt with him, he
would always oppose the Lcond fitting of that com
mittee, because the example already given (efficiently
fati,fied him that it would be no more than mockery.
TheCommitte at left divided, and the Minister was
left in a minority, the amendment not having been
negatived, as the Lord Advocate had expelled.
There appeared,
For the amendment, — —— , 233
Against it, — • 215
Majority for the neceffil) of declaring that the in
fluence of the Crown is increased. &c rS.
Mr. Dunning made his next motion, which was,
“ That it is the opinion of the Committee, that it is
competent to this House to examine into, and to cor
re& the abates in the expenditure of the civil lift
revenue, as well as in every other branch of public
revenue, whenever it (hill seem expedient to the wif
dora of this House so to do.
Mr. Rigby opposed the motion; said it was one
of the curiofirie, of the present age to fee a Minifler
in a minority. He said he had intended to have made
a motion, which was, 66 That it Was unjust in Pm
Lord pit hifrigut to attack tin patrolmen ay uoa
dud and that dfhis friends on a footing with their
right to attack the noble Lords executive conduAr
Thty attacked the noble Lord as a Minister ; in
which point of view they had a ri^ht to attack him.
Mr. For was called to order, aid the house con
tinued in a second uproar for some rime, at length
Lord North purfaed his speech, and ?fier treating
Mr. Fox's rude language with contempt, procure!
to hate, that it was hid for him, or for ay nuu,
to be attacked and unjufily accused from day to day
and net be differed to defend himfelfi - That he had
never denied the right of gentlemen to confute or
canvafi his conduit, so long as they did it in a par
liamentary way, and in gentleman 1 ke language.
He had often offered to meet any inquiry that might
be inftitated, confeious that it would not appear
that he merited the imputations so frequency thrown
out apinfthim. He said, he had never pretended
to great abilities. A'l he had claimed was an up
right conscience, and an unfeigned, sincerity in his
good wishes to his country. -He raptured and
debited every unconstitutional flretch of the pre
rogative, as much as any man, or any execife of
undue influence. Indolent and fond of case as he
was, he protested he weald rather spend his whole
life in the liable of public bufiuefs, and from day to
day undergo the difagree.ble fatigue frf political war-,
fare, and fland the ted of parliamentary attack, abuse
and provocation, than fit down like <.hc Indian un
der the manchineel tree, and do%e away bis life bt
neath the hateful influence of arbitrary power.
His Lordship denied that any members of that
house were pensioned, and objefltd to the motion
on the fame ground as the Lord Advocate had ta
ken. He desired to know, before he voted for such
a proposition, what other p'opofitions were to follow
it: He had heard of two, which had been mentioned
else where. -One, a proportion to alter th# cenfti
tution of that House, by adding an additional num
ber of representatives to it; the other, by moving
ether for annual or triennial Parliaments: He de
clared, he took that opportunity of publicly expref
fiog his disapprobation of both those propositions,
and desired the Committee to excuse what he said,
as a notice that he would oppose them both when
ever they should be proposed; The bill for Septen
nial Parliaments, no matter by whom fuggefiedj or
on what cccafion, he had ever regarded as a lucky
circumstance for this country, and as the fdvation
of the confutation. General Conway spoke in fa
vour of the motion, and reprobated the question
moved by the Lord Advocate. The Attorney Ge
neral opposed the motion, but with refpeA to his
learned friend, (the Lord Advocate) he did not uo
derftand that he meant, w>en he moved for the
chairman to leave the chair, that the business fhoald
not be resumed at another opportunity. H= believed
his learned friend did not intend any such thing as
that of putting an end to the coufideration.of the pe
titions; but that his motion was merely in the na
ture of a motion to postpone it.
The Lord Advocate laid, he by no means wished
to put an end to the bufiuefs; but would rather that
it Should come on agrin, at a future opportunity.
He would with draw his motion for the chairman
to leave the chair.
Aivovtn iv uiimumi I^ ova hu ictzuuc, wicv^.
proof of some abuse of it ; " and this fecoud motion
of Mr. Dunning's was not at all inconsistent with it.
Mr Burke rallied Mr. Rigby a good deal opon
his Curiafry ; he a'fo'thought the M^rnfter a curiosi
ty; but he wet more fit for the British Museum,
than the British House of Cemmons.
Lord North expeffed his wishes that the Com
rnwee would nor ,0 on.
Lord George Gorton f)oke : afier which the
qjehkTn was called for, and the motion was agreed
to -without a dvifion..
Mr. T. P r made rhejhird motion in the Com
roM^^ which was, 6 tThat it is the opinion of this
Ccrrcii.ee, that a is tha duty of this House to pro
vide as far as may be, an immediate and effeAual
redraft of the abuse, complained of in the Petitions,
presented to this Ebufe, from the different counties,
cities and towns in thia kingdom.
Lord North again wished the House not to pro
ceed.
No ether objection being made to the motion, it
palled unanimo^fly.
I wxs then moved by Mr. Fex, for the said reso
lutions to be immediately reacted to the House,
which was opposed by Lord North, as violent, ar
bitrary, and unafual, but war, notwithfanding, a
greed to by the Hcufe; and Mr. Heffey reported
accordingly,. That the Committee had come to the
said. ;efol&tions severally. It was then
Relolved by the House,
That this report be now received. The report
was then made by Mr. Hdffey, and read the firfi and
ficond time, and agreed to by.the House.
Mr. Rigby then moved far the House to adjourn
to Saturday, but it was carried for the House to
adjourn to Monday at 12 o'clock.
The Hcufe was up at half pall one on Friday
mornin,.
SCHEME or "a LOfTER^.
The Second Class..
FO R raising Four Thoufaud F,ve Hundred
Pounds, for the pu.pofe of re bailing a Bridge
over Houfetonuch River, in,he Town ci Sheffield,
on the pea Road, leading from Conne&icnt through
the County of B^kfhire to Albany, and other Parts
of the State of New York, v z.
Number of prizes. Dollars Dollar,.
I Prize of - 5000 is 5000
4 Do. - 1000 - 4000
4 DO. - .500 - 2000
4DO. - 4CO - I Coo
4 Do. - 3 CO - 1200
lo Do. - 200 - 2000
foDo. - 100 - fooo
1600 DO. - 40 . 64 000
Firfl -Drawn 100 - 100
L<B Dawn 100 - 100
85 000 Dollars.
1679 Prizes, to be paid without Deduction.
3321 Blanks : Not T^o Blanks to a Prize.
5060 Tickets at 20 Dollars each, amounts to
joo,ooo D liars; which leaves 15,000 Dollars,
or £. 45 00 for the Execution of the Patpofe for
which the Lottery was granted.
The foregoing Scheme is propped in Corfequence
of, and Agreeable to an Alt of the G^at and Ge
neral Codrt of Mcncbufetts-Biy; as the Money
has depreciated to such a Debtee that it will not ef
fea the Design for which the lottery was granted,
therefore it was thought proper to L&ye a fecund
Class to complete said Bridge; the Time and Place
of Drawing (which will not be farther diflant than
Three Months) will be feafcnably Advertised in the
Hartford" News Paper and an accurate Lift publiflu
cd immediately after the Drawing is finished.
The prizes not applied for in fix Months, will be
considered as generously given for which the Lot
tery is granted, and appronriated accordingly.
JOHN FELLOWS,\
EZRA FELLOWS', , Managers.
JOHN ASHLEY jun,)
Sheffield. May 15th 1780.
TICKETS to be Sold by Bavil Webster;
at his Printing Office, a few rods south of the Court-
House. He also pays oTT th. Prizes drawn in the
Firfi C^afs, signed by E. 'Fellows,
Sr RAYED or S lOLE N, out of a paffure
in Hartford, about the middle of May last, &
Dark Bay HORSE, 5 years old, about 13 hands
arid a half high, paces and trots, head and tail
trim'd, trim built, very large full eyes (hod before,
no brand. Whoever will take up said Horse, and
return him to the Suhfer ber, in N:w Haitfcsd or
fend word where he ma, be bad, Ihall have a hand
feme reward, and charges p^ id, by
LEVI WATSON:
New Hartford sane ^, 1780^