The Columbian informer, or, Cheshire journal — Keene, N.H., 1795-02-24 00:00:00, page 1

MR. S. SMITH. Mr. Chair
man, this relocation on your
table reads thus," Resolved,
that there b'c appropriated out
of the revenues a sum not
exceeding 600 000 dollars, to be applied
to the payment of two dollars on every
hundred dollars of the amount on that part
of the public debt, which bears an inter
est of 6 per cent.
The resolution has passed the commit
tee unanimously. Ou what principle
then, does the gentleman (Mr, Ames)
pretend to doubt our intentions to provide
funds to fink that proportion annually, of
the public debt? I conceive myfelf com
mitted, and if I cannot prove that we have
refoarces fu fficient without continuing the
laws described in the second resolution.—
'The only fubjed before the committee, is
to provide funds to fink annually, the
600,000 dollars. The quefhon then re
solves itfelfinto this, is the revenue of the
United States fufficient to meet the 600,
coo per annum, in addition to the ordi
nary and known expenditure ? Or does it
fland in need of the affirmance of those ex
cises now under confederation ? The gen
tleman fays, it requires their affifhnce,
and fates an account, when after paying
the 600,000 dollars, he leaves a balance
of only 126,c00 dollars. If the gentleman
believes his own statement he mult provide
more funds, for farely he would not leave
the treasury with only 126,000 dollars to
meet contingencies, and to pay cff that
variety ofdebt he boasts a desire to dis
charge. The gentleman will do well to
confine himfelf to the fubjeft in question,
that is, to provide for the 600,000. On
this fubjed he has fupplicd us with ufeful
information. He fays, that he this
morning received a statement from the
treasury which makes the net amount on
the duties in 1793 on imposts and tonnage,
to be 5,500,000 dollars, and that he wjll
always prefer fads to eftimates.' There
we agree. This fed gives 500,000 dol
lars in favor of my estimate, for I had cal
culated on five millions only. It was fur
• prising that the gentleman did not make
use of other fads instead of supposition,
which he could have had, without going
to the treasury, viz. In 1793 (his year)
the civil lift cost 358,241 dollars. The
gentlemen has changed it at 500,000 dol
lars. Another fad. Jn 1793 the military
establishment, including pensioners, cost
1,212,531 dollars. But, fir,there is ano
ther item of a very considerable impor
tance, which the gentleman seems totally
to have forgot, that is, an aft laying ad
ditional duties on goods, wares, and mer
chandizes, passed last session, commenced
operation the iftof July, 1794, and which
. is estimated, in the report before us, to
yield 500 000 dollars, but which 1 have
stated will produce,
Dollars, - - - - - - 750,000
Add error in civil lift, - - 141,759
Sumin military establishment, - 217.469
Balance made by Mr. Ames, - 126,000
QO©O<
# 1,305,228
makes a balance, after paying the 600
000 dollars, 1,509.228, from which de
dud 380,000 dollars contemplated to be
railed (by the excises, and there will re
main, for contingencies, and for purchases
of the debt by the. gentleman's own system
and surely a good one, of taking fads in
stead ofcftimate# for our guide) the next
sum of 925,228, being about 400,000 dol
lars more than I had fated. What reason
[No. 48. ofVoL. 11.]
ugfaigfav^foi^r
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
Congress
of the UNITED STATES.
January, 16.
Columbian Informer ;
Or, C HESHIREJOURNA L.
PRINTED and PUBLISHED byHENRYBLAKE, & CO. in KEENE, New-Hampshire.
then, at this time, for continuing those
laws monger than their time, fay until June
1797, and the end of the next session there
after, against which time they will more
than pay off the sums for which the, stand
appropriated. For instance all the reve
nues to be railed by laws past last year,
were appropriated to pay sundry sums a
mounting to 1,292,137 dollars. Two
years of the excises in question, are esti
mated to net 760,000 dollars. One year
of the additional duties passed last session,
ifit yields but 533 000 dollars will fatisfy
the whole appropriation on these laws.—
It has been said, that I have not provided
for payment of the bank inftahnents of
200 000 dollars, which must commence in
1796. I answer, that the faled! committee
had not reported on it. I took the doc
cuments they had furnifhed the House, for
my government, However, I now answer
that the estimate on your table, shews a bal
ance at the end of the year 1795, of 510,
000, with which they may pay two and a
half year, bank inftalment, if necessary :
And ifour funds should not be found ade
quatein 1797, we must either continue
those laws then expiring, or supply some 0-
ther funds : However,! believe that no man
can think that the funds will be inadequate.
It is said, that I am willing to commit the
government for the sum wanted, and to
depend on fevings to pay, I fay I bring
forward solid funds—but I will go farther
and ellablifh the payment by appropria
ting the revenue arising from the imposts,
laid last session, which nobody will doubt
being fufficient. %
The gentleman from S. Carolina (Mr.
W. Smith) has said, and has been suppor
ted by a gentleman from Massachusetts,
that governmentjiaving encouraged man
ufadures, by protesting duties, have a,
fair and just right to lay excises on such
manufactures, lo as to pay for the revenue^
that government might have gained, had
the articles continued to be imported:—
This declaration is fair, is candid, and if
the system oflevying excises upon the man
ufaftures of sugar and fhuff should be con
tinued until 1801, then those who com
mence any manufactory in future will not
havea right to complain, the intention of
government being thus made public. But
if this is the system we are to adopt, why
not at once lay an excise on all manufac
tures where the protesting duty has ena
bled the manufacturer to exclude importa
tion ? Why not lay excises on the follow
ing, who have excluded the importing of
similar articles, and who equally may be
said to have obtained a monopoly of the
fdpply of their refpedive goods.
Ropemakers, faddlers, bootmakers,
shoemakers, tanners, curriers, shipbuild
ers, carvers, cabinet makers, coach mak
ers, and a variety ofothers—Or why not
lay an excise on the following, who have
in many Rates obtained the fame kind of
monopoly, viz. fail duck makers, paper
makers, nailers, cotton manufactures, glass
makers, hatters, watch and clock makers,
brulh makers, eheefe makers, t«ine spin
ners, brewers, and a variety of others.—
My neighbor (Mr. Goodhue) whispers,
because sugar and fnuff are luxuries—gran
ted—yet are they considered neceflaries
by those who use them ; and I ask that
gentleman whether sugar has not become
more necessary to him, than any thing
that can be furnished by either the carver,
cabinet maker, coach maker, eheefe mak
er, or even the brewer.—No, Mr. Chair
man, I will tell you the true reason—be
cause it would have been unpopular and a
larming. Begin with two obje&s called
luxuries whose manufadories are not more
than thirty four in Union—they are so few
they will not be heard. But the prece
dent once obtained,we can proceed to levy
an excise upon all or any other manufac
ture : For one precedent is worth one
hundred fine spun reafous. Sir, the caufc
TUESDAY, Fe br ua 1 t 24, I79fr
THE
A biil was read from the Senate for re
pealing part of the ad for prohibiting the
exportation of arms, and encouraging the
importation of the fame.
The House resolved into a committee, &
went through the bill. It was next read
in the House, and a motion was made for
referring it to a fcle& committee. This
was negatived. The bill was ordered to
be engrofled for a third reading. The
meaning of this bill was to permit an ex
portation oflead. Mr. Fitzfimons,faid that
there was great plenty of lead is the pub
lic fores,fo that the occasion for whi-h this
part of the bill had been passed, was at an
end.
Mr. W. Smith next laid on the table a
motion for^ppointing a feleft committee
to enq: re into the propriety of continuing
in force or repealing the a& for encourage
ing the importation of arms into this coun
try. The question was put. — Ayes 30 —
Noes 27. A committee was accordingly
appointed.
Mr. Parker then brought in a bill from
the feleft committee, for eftablilhing tra
ding houfe# with the Indians. The bill
was read a firft and second time, and re
ferred to a committee of the whole on
Monday.
From the [ Bolton] Federal Orrery.
Mr. Paine,
THE following letter containing the
reasons of the failure of Mr. Lamb's mis
sion to Algiers defervesa place in your
impartial paper.
Cadiz, Jan. 20, 1794.
To the American merchants and mailers
of ships now in the bay of Cadiz.
GENTLEMEN,
AS many unfavourable formifes, ref
pe&ing my conduct at Algiers, have
lately been circulated. 1 take this oppor
tunity of laying before you the circum
stances of that unfortunate tranfa&ion.
U/^foQ^^Q^^to^ftv^hV^Z 1
of the sugar bakers and fnuff makers is
that of all and every other manufacturer,
for all are attacked through them.
A bill for the remission of tonnage duties
on certain French vessels, was_ lead in
committee of the whole, and agreed to.—
The Chairman then rose and reported pro
gress. These were vessels which brought
certain settlers from Nova-Scotia, whither
they had been carried prisoners by the Bri
tilh, from St. Pierre, Miquelon.
Thursday, Jan. 22-
A bill for reviling certain suits and cau
ses which have been discontinued in the
dillrid court of Pennfylvznia, was read a
third time and past.
A bill supplementary to an aft making
provision for invalids, was read a firft and
second time, and reserved to a committee
of the whole on Monday.
The speaker then read a report fiom
the Committee on the laws relative to loft
or destroyed Certificates. It was agreed
to, and a bill ordered to be brought
in.
The House then went through the a
mendments of the Committee of the bill
for enrolling and licensing vessels in the
coasting trade. Ordered to be read a
third time to-morrow.
My commission to Algiers war on a mi
fcrable contrasted scale ; and 1 presume
you will readily exculpate my character
from any dishonorable aspersion, after you
have carefully and impartially peruf
nd my inftruflions. They wpre given
to me, in Paris, by our minister then resi
dent at the French Court; and I here in
fart them, that you may publish them in A-
It was next moved and agreed, that the
committee of the whole House should be
difeharged from further consideration of the
bill, for eftablilhing poll-roads. A com
mittee of five members was appointed to
take it into consideration.
" SEN FENCE of condemnation has
been pronounced against the schooner Go
vernor Clinton,and her cargo,without any
qualifications whatever. 1 molt solemnly
aver, and my couhfel cannot advise me
upon what grounds foe is thus adjudicated :
Whether we have finned against the laws of
nations, against any pefitive indrudions—
or, whether there is any secret inftrudions,
or political motive, or other inducement
that it would be indecent to puefs at, ue
are totally ignorant. That we have pro
ved her an American vcfiel, and neutral
property, and not engaged in any con
traband trade, or entering any port block
aded or besieged, is molt certain ; and
that there was no special charge against
her,by all which it mult appear,that the sole
crime is trading with a French Colony ; 1
leave to you to draw the conclusion, whe
ther this does not evince a manifeft dehen
of provoking the Americans to commit
hostilities in any open way.
“ 1 dial l , of course, enter my appeal,
appraisers are already appointed, and
they may begin to discharge this duty ;
they attempted to remove her into the
country, that this business might be done
entirely after their own mind ; the Court,
however, on application, refuted to in
dulge them. 1 must find security in §ool.
fterliog to prosecute the appeal, and they
mull give bail to return the property. I
shall then have nothing furthe^to do than
urge the completion of my papers to be
carried to the Court of Appeals, as well
as regular proteft# against any Special
hardlhips attending my case. I have un
derstood that they do not intend to make
me qny offer ofher, but will fend her to
England. I doubt much whether any
thing can be done byway of negotiation*
with them ; they seem determined to im
prove the property, to which I have tie
objections.
" The expences of your travels are in
cluded in the above sum; and we hope
there will be a great saving out of it."
According to my orders, 1 proceeded to
Algiers—and was three days with the Dey
of Algiers, at three different times. The
lowed price, he would take lor the people
was 6000 dollars for a Captain ; 4000 for
a mate, and 1400 dollars for a sailor.
1 could have obtained the peace propos
ed, for 500,000 dollars, together with
the redemption of our unfortunate fellow
citizens at Algiers, who were, at tl^c
time 21 in number. Not less than this
sum would have answered the purpose,
wjthout any saving whatever, except the
" dignity of m, high mifton" had been kept
down!
If the above deposition doth not fatisfy
you, please to call at Algiers, and there
you will be convinced. *
l am Gentlemen, ,our
obedient, bumble fervent.
(Signed) ' JOHN LAMB.
trymen.
" YOU are to proceed to Algiers, via
Madrid, there call on William Carmichael
Esq. who is our charge des affairs, at thac
Court ; and will procure the influence of
Spain, in favor of your mission to Algiers
—From Madrid, you will proceed the molt
convenient roat to your defined place,
Algiers. We hope you will purchase
our prisoners at one hundred dollars per
head :—You are not to exceed two hun
dred dollars pe& head: You are not to
purchase our prisoners except you make a
peace for fifty years. You are to keep
up to the dignity of your high million.—
The sum for the above business is 40,000
dollars.
Extract of a letter from Mr. Paul R Ran
dall, to bis Father Mr. Thomas Randall,
of New York, dated
Bermuda, 13th Dee. I 794.
merica, for the information of my coun-
NORTHAMPTON, Feb. 4.
Gentlemen,
[Whole No. 100.]
;vfobeufffyu^foae^ /a