The Newhampshire gazetteer — Exeter, N.H., 1792-12-12 00:00:00, page 2

Another memorial was read, of Sam.
nel Hodgfon, late Quarter Master Ge
neral, complaining of the fame report,
and praying to be heard in his own
defence against the censures passed on
him and publilhed to the world with
out his know ledge and without having
had a hearing.
The minutes of yesterday's proceed,
ings being read, Mr. Smith of S. Ca
rolina, observed, that the motion for
admitting the secretaries of the war
and treasury department into the house
to give information refpefling the
causes of the defeat of General St.
Clair, which was negatived, appear
ed to have been entered on the jour
nal now read by the clerk. This he
thought ibould not have been done, as
the rule is that queftiona only should
be entered when the yeas & nays are
called, or when they are carried in
the affirmative. The intention of
which rule was to prevent the journals
from being swelled to too great an
extent unnecessarily. He therefore
moved, that it should be Expunged.
But after a few words on the poin; of
order from Mr. White, and Mr. Page
—Mr. Smith withdrew his motion,and
the business of yesterday, confeqsently
Hands recorded on the journals of the
house.
On the motion of Mr. White, a fe
lea committee was appointed on that
part of the President's communication,
rafpeaingthe law for Regulating the
trade and intercourse with certain In
dian tribes ; the committee areMeffrs.
White, Clarke, and Williamson.
Mr. Goodhoe from the committee
on this business, reported a Gill for re
gulating ships and vessels, and those
employed in the coasting trade.
Mr. Madison moved, that the com
mittee of the whole, who were by order
of the day, now to take up the report
of the committee of enquiry on the
cause of St Clair's defeat, ffiould, be
di(charged ; and that fhid report
together with all the documents, and
the memorials of the Secretary of War,
and the Quarter Matter General, should,
be conil tao° a fele& committee,
who fyilqfe^et to call for such
persons and papers as they may judge
reqoifitein the: course of iriveftiga
tion—
This motion occafioneda cenfiddr
able debate, and it was ftrongiy op
posed by Mrffrs. Smith, S. C. Ames.
' Learning that the present day was
appointed for taking into consideration
the above mentioned report- —I have
waited with anxious expectation for
some aft of the house enabling me to
attend the progefs of the examination
on which they are about to enter, for
the parpofe of furnifhing such inform
ation aud explanations as might con
duce to a right understanding of fads,
in which I am so materially implica
cated : the failure of a proportion which
I am informed was made to the house
with that view, has added to my soli
citude and regret.
" Thus Situated', I feel myfelf Called
upon to ask of the justice of the house
that some mode may be devised, by
which it will be put into my power to
qbe prefenc during the course of the in
tended inquiry, as well to hear the
evidence on which the several allega
tions contained in the report are foun
ded, as to offer the information and
explanations to which I have allud
ed.
" And my entire reliance upon the
equity and impartiality of the house
will not permit a doubt to exist on
my parg, that such an investigation
will be exclusively the object of their
desire and pursuit.
" I have the honor to be Sir, with
the highest refpca, your molt obedient
humble fervaat.
(Signed) H. KNOX.
The Speaker ofthe honorable the House
of Reprefentatioes of the United States.
" To this Hep lam impelled by a
persuasion that an accurate arid fatif
faCtory investigation cannot otherwise
be bad with equal advantage—if at
all.
Monday, nov. 19;
Sixty-one members prelent.
A bill for regulating foreign coins,
came down from the Seriate, was read
twice, and made the order ofthe day,
for Morida, next. \.
The Trustees of the fund for reduc
ing the publick debt, reported their
progress in the bufinefs —-ordered to
be printed.
Several petitions & memorials were
received—'one from the Delegates of
the Society of Quakers from Newjer.
fej.Delraare, Penn/yhtania, Maryland,
and PirflOT refpeaing the Indian
War._
Sundry other petitions were present
ed and read.—After which the galle
ries were cleared.
Thursday, Nov. 15.
A bill for registering and recording
ships or vessels belonging to citizens
of the United States, was read the
firfl and lecond time, and made th,
order of the day on Monday next.
The speaker laid before the house a
letter from the Secretary at War, en
closing an extrad of a letter from
James Seagrove, Esq. commissioner
of Indian Affairs for the Creek nation,
dated at Sr. Mary's, Qaober 28, 1792
— Hating that the chiefs and head
men of that nation were amicably dis
posed towards the United States, and
that in four days time he expected a
number of them there ; that he like,
wife had received a letter from Gener
al M'Gillivry, by Mr, Bryan, his in
terpreter.
A report of the Secretary of the
T/eafury, to whom was referred the
memorials of the trustees of the Gram
mar School, in Wilmington, State of
Delaware, and of two German Con
gregations in the State of Penn/ylwa
-oM,praying compensation for damage#
fuflained by them refpe&ively during
the late War —Ordered to lay on the
table.
Friday, Nor. 16.
The private communications from
the War Department, bning in reading,
the galleries were closed.
Dayton, and others, and fopported by
Messrs. Baldwin, Livermore and Ma
dison. The Members of the former
committee of enquiry were frequently
obliged to rife in defence of their re
port, viz. Messrs. Fitzsimons, Find,
ley, Steele, Clark, Giles and Gerry,
(Mr. Mercer who was the 7th is not
yet arrived.)
Mr. Steele observed, that although,
Mr. Hodgfon might complain of not
being present lalt session, yet he had
been written to, and the committee
had received letters from him, relative
to the circumfiances, they thought it
necessary to be made acquainted with.
And with regard to the Secretary of
War, there was no ex,arte proceedings
against him, for he had been frequent
ly applied to, and was in Philadelphia
all the time the committee had been
employed in the enquiry.
The question being put on Mr. Ma
dison's motion, it was carried in the
affirmative, 30 to 22, and then ano
ther motion tor re-committing to the
fame committee of seven, who had
made report last session, being made,
it was also agreed to. ,
The next question was for adding
some additional members to the com
mittee, but this was negatived, 17 for,
and 27 against it. N. B. Os the 17
who were for adding to the commit
tee several of themselves rose ; so that
exclusive of those, the numbers would
have been about 11 to 33.
Mr. Fitzfimons requeued to beex
cufed from attending this business, as
he was already exceedingly engaged
in the business of other committees. It
was then suggested that two members
Should be appointed in the place of
Messrs. Fitzfimons and Mercer ; but
a motion for adjournment prevented
any decision on this lubjed.
Saturday, nov. 17;
Galleries shut.
for the other proprietors in the town
ship of Morristown, begs- leave, with
due refpe& and submission to that hon
orable tody, to make a few observa
tions for their candid confide ration,
while our petition is before their com
mittee, viz. That about thirty years
since, the Government of New-Hamp
shire, for the sole object of encourag
ing the settlement of their wild,vacant
Lands, made a conditional grant of a
township of land by the name of Fran
conia: but these idl, grantees not re
garding the favours which they had
afad of Government, nor paying any
attention to the conditions of their
grant, till the time limited had long
elapsed, without their complying with
a single condition of their grant.
Government then with the fame views,
proceeded to re-grant the fame lands
by the name of Morristown. Under
this encouragement from government
we went on at avast expence to clear
roads, build mills, lay out the lots,
put on settlers, &c. 'till the former
grantees finding that our exertions had
made those lands valuable, they then
rose from their ambush and with great
air of importance assumed their forfeit
ed grant, and by force and violence
have taken possession of our lands, la
bouratid improvements, declaring that
the ConHita:ion and Laws of the State
are so conftruded as to encourage and
proted them in this cruel tyranny and
oppreflion, at the fame time oar an
tagonHis have taken especial care to
keep the doors of the court of Chance
ry faft boltedagaihft us by their lame
aft that we can have no redref# from
that quarter in this deplorable fxua
tion — w e now cheerfully look up to
Government in whom we have, ever
put out trait and confidence in going
through those fcrVices and fatigues,
thinking that our title wa< further con
rir^dbLikCffffent Governments
Mr. Printer,
AS the Legislature of New-Hamp
ffiire is now affembed, the sub
scriber in his own behalf, and as agent
Was taken up, in Committee of the
whole. The several paragraphs were
read, and Committees appointed, or
Resolutions entered into, on each par
ticular communication ; until the part
which relates to the reduction of the
publick debt, came under discussion ';
when a lengthy debate ensued, on the
motion of Mr. Fitzfimons, That the
Secretary of the Treajury be direaed to
report a plan on the jubjea, Messrs
Madison and Mercer opposed the
motion. They thought the house not
ripe for a decision on the fubje£t—
doubted the ability of the United
States to form a regular plan for the
reduction of the debt—and objected
to the Secretary's being made the re
porter of a measure, which it was the
sole duty of the House to originate.—
Messrs. Fitzfimons, Smith, (S. C.)
and Sedgwick, advocated the motion.
They said the House had pledged it-;
felf in the answer to the President's
speech to pursue the object —1 hat the
ability of the United States, to take
advantage of the redeemable quality
of the debt, was apparent ; and that
the idea was absurd, that any right
was relinquished in dire&ing the
Secretary of the Treasury to report on
any fobjed, as his reports were not
laws, and might if not agreeable, be
rejected. The Committee rose. with
out a decision on the fubjed.
On motion of Mr. WUliamfon, who
pointed out the inconvenience our
commerce experienced from the want
of native feamtri, and the necessity of
encouraging them, by providing ic^
them in case of sickness or infirmity,
a committee was railed to report a
Bill yor the relief of fek and infirm fed
wen ; and a Bill to promote commerce by
the increase of foamer..
Mr.Boudinot laid on the table a mo
tion, for the appointment of a coin,
mittee, to report a Bill providing an
uniform J,fem of Bankruptcy, through
out the United States.
For the Nra-HampJhire Gazetteer.
THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH
A few days fince,the fubferiber went
into the state of Necw-HampJbire, and
there purchased a large drove of the
fineft grais-fed beef Catt e that ever
he saw together in his life, although
he has travelled through the most of
the States in the Union, (and being
bred a Farmer, is led to made the
ftrideft observations of the cattle, foil
and produce of each state.) One pair
of the abovefaid cattle, (which were
raised and fed by Major Ijaac Barter
fold, of Weftmoreland, in the county
of Cheshire, in said state) weighed in
Boston marker, (viz.) hide, beef and
tallow, 3616 we. although they
were but fix years old, past, arid wee
only grafs-fed ; as the Major declared
before be fold them, that he haff never
pretended to feed them with proven,
der excepting a small matter at times,
just to keep them thriving, and that
they had grown more this year than
any since they were calves, and that
he would have kept them till they had
come to their full growth, and then
have fed them with provender if be
had thought they could after that have
been driven such a distance to maket ;
which if he had done, itis tho'tby
the belt judges of feeding tattle, that
they would have then weighed on the
farm, 4500 wt. for it is fuppofed,that
they must now have wafted near 400
wt. in driving twelve days on the toad
to market, during which time^the/
underwent severe fatigue and afflidion
night and day, from the many people
around them, pinching, measuring,
&c. that they had not proper time to
feed or rest; and as out General Court
were then fitting at Concord,they were
drove that way, and by His Excellen
cy's define were drove to his door, and
viewed by the Court, who expressed
great fatisfadion in the fight of them.
From thence they were drove over
Charleftown Bridge,and thro' the town
of Boflon, with a lofty flag flying °°
the horns, and all the town and conn,
tr, gratified with the fight, by the
fubferiber, on free cost 4 who now, re
Gentlemen,
IF you should think the following re
marks, which the fubferiber has
justly made concerning the state of
Ne<w.Hamp/hire, worth puplick notice,
you will no doubt give them a free
circulation as far as your ufeful papers
extend.
But if this our last prayer and hope
from this government Should be denied
it will ftrip&deprive many of us of the
means of life,& every hope and comfort
of it, excepting ihefe fopportiog con
templations, that we have faithfully
discharged every duty and truftthat
government have placed in us, and
that our miseries and diftrefs,are come
upon us for no fault of ours that was in
our power to prevent, which must ren
der us the greater cbjeds of the cha
rity and cempaffion of our fellow men,
while we beg our way thro' the State,
to some other part of the country in
search of better quarters. ], T.
[Agent for the proprietors of Morriflown
To the PR INTERS in the United States
they had from year to year called on
ns by the name of Morristown for the
annualGovcinment taxes of faidTowu
fhip, 'till they had taken from us more
than thirty nine hundred ppauts lawful
money, in addition to the fofs of our
lands and labour (as our antagonists
would have it) for which Taxes we
Hill hold their Treasurer's receipts.
We have now only to ohfirve that we
have proved curfelves the faithful
friend: and Servants of Government la
going through the hard Service, and
Offerings alor efaid, supposing cur pro
perty fafe under the great Seal and
protection of the State, as they had
granted us their lands upon conditions
which we have long Since more then
fulfilled, but are now left wi;h our
helpless families to Harve in the wild,
crncis, unless Government will in their
wisdom and companion grant us a
piece of vacant land that we may have
a sure foundation to begin the world
anew.
of AMERICA.