Republican ledger, and Portsmouth price current — Portsmouth, N.H., 1803-06-14 00:00:00, page 3

For the Ledger.
^ "PLAIN TRUtH."
SIR,
; Wta I wrote tbofe enquiries to you signed an
enquirer, 1 addressed you in us civil a manner as 1
was cabble of, ^nd couhdering the public Ration
you hold, and the title you give yourfelf of a
gospel miniiter, 1 bad reason to expert a, civil an
answer ; but as you did not pleate to favour me
"with it,l fhatl take it as it is, believing, however,
your, anf.ver will bring you no credit, nor me no
injury. You fay when you read my publication
in the Ledger, you concluded I was as far from
the name signed at the bottom, as my piece is from
the Plain Truth ; you confider me as not only
deftituie of the truth, but one by whom the way
of truth is evil spoken of; you fay I have en
deavoured to explain away the meaning bt Plain
Truth by tying, Let you cunfider me in what
light you may, I can tell you my motive was for
you to tell me the true meaning of those texts ; 1
would not wifli to be found destitute of all truth,
neither would I wilh to Jpeak evil of the way <f
truth ; I came to you to be taught " hat truth wa>,
and to be led in the way of truth, therefore I pro
poled those texts to you, that you might give an
answer oftiuth. 1 did not know that I explained
any thing in your piece at all, much letsexplain
away your meaning by lying ; you fay I told you
I had quoted the whole ot two texts, my words
\vere these, Thus you fee fir, I have quoted the
whole rfihrje two lap texts, though you do not .< —
1 was not aware that a xerfe always meant a text,
or thata text always meant averse ;it I hacl been,
1 should have quoted the whole verse ; neither do
I now know, that a text always means a whole
verse, because we fay when a minißer takes a
ftnall part of averse, that was his text ; suppose
for instance, a minifler wa§ to preach from thole
words, Romans vi;i. 4, '' For they that are after
the flefh, do mind the things of the flefh ;" Would
, not this be his text, his whole text because the
' • '.ole sentence is named ? But when any person
quotes a part of a sentence, as you did when you
gioted those words, " Buried with him by Bap
tism," here was part of the sentence, you left out
those words “ into death," which has an evident
connection with the baptism spoken of; I was not
aware that the words I left out bad any connec
tion with the baptism I was querying with you
about." I think fir, that it is. to be regretted that
you, who pretend to pay such itriCt adherence to
the examples of our Saviour, did not follow it
with reflect to this answer ; when one came to
him and ilked him civilly what good' thing he
Should do to inherit eternal life, he told him to
keep the commandments ; he fays, which ? Christ
answered him in a civil manner, and told.him
which ; he fays Al these have I kept, what lack I
yet ? Christ did not rail at him, and tell him he
“ lied, he was “ deflitute of truth, one " by
Whom the way ofturth was evil spoken of, (though
perhaps he might have done it with more proprie
ty than yon did, when he said he had kept the
commandments ;) No, he set no such examples for
you to follow. You fay, as to my calling you a
priest, is a miflake, it is a title you disown, tor
o the priefls thereof teach for hire ;" if teaching
fur hire brakes a priest, I believe you are a priest,
as much as any mmilter, for did not Jome of your
hearers agree with you for eight dollars per week ?
And do you not take the money for teaching ? Is
there not a collection made every Sabbath for you ?
Are not those people that agreed with you, almof
continually complaining for want of more money ?
And if you do not exact it, why do some of thole
men fay that it comes hard upon them, to make
up the deficiency? You next fay that in ope thing
Lad like the prophet Zachariah, who was a true
prophet ofGod ; I think it a worthy thing to be
compared with him, and fay I took unto me the in
flruments of a feolijhJhepherd—the infiruments
that 1 took onto me are texts of scripture ; if
these are +hftrumen:s of a fooiifh fhepherd,whofe
ihrtruments are they ? are they not the words of
God ? then they are his inftrtments.
You fay as to my question may not a person wajh
and net dip ? yoti answer yes, very well, did you
not fay that “ baptising means washing ?" and did
you not mean to prove that wathing meant dip
ping, when yon said these words ? " It is in vain
for any person to fay that walking is not dipping,
because the scripture fays it is," and quoted two
texts in Kings to prove it ; but new, you lay that
the point you endeavoured to chabklh was not
that wafting always meant dipping and nothing
el/e, but that it Jometimes meant dipping —if you
bad said so before, 1 should not had occalion to
b^ve alked whether a person might wajh and not
dtp ? for 1 should have concluded that dipping was
only one node of wafting or baptising, and that
those who use other modes of walliing or baptiting
were as right as you. Again you fay, that a
person cannot baptij^ without immersing or dipping
the whole body w der water ,• and lay that this is
the meaning of the Greek word babtizo from bap
to t here ybu have outwitted me. 1 know nothing
about Greek, it is a fine thing though, to have a
little Greek at hand when neceflity calls for it—
but I had recourse to a Dictionary to find how
the Greek word was defined, tins man knew
Greek words when they were printed in Greek
letters, as well as when they were printed in Eng
lish. HR definition is to waft or purify, and
an,uthor 1 have, gives it the fame meaning; here
lies the point of the depute, you fa, it means
nothing but dipping or itamerjing ; they fay it
means wajhing or purifying. Now it what you
fay is right, then your way is ri^ht ; but it they
fay right, then your way is only one mode of
waffling or purifying, and you allow that a person
may wash or purify and not dip ; you fay, that if
Icould prove from scripture, that they were or
dered to wash, and went and Sprinkled, 1 should
think 1 was very well furnifhed; 1 can prove th t
a person was eleanfed or purified by sprinkling ot
water upon him, and if baptife means wajhing or
burning, then sprinkling is as good a mode as
dipping..
if you will bring one account in the whole
Bible, that fay< when a person was baptifed, he
was put all under water, I will j^iu with you in
fnpportmg baptism by iihmerfion. You fay that io
order to answer all my questions ,t once ; you
stall prove that baptism is an immerfibn or burial
with Chi iff. Yuli lay the scriptures fay, " There
-1 fore we are buried with him by baptism into
death, that like as Christ was raised up from the
dead b, the glory of the Father, even so we mould
Work in newness of life , vou have left out the
3d verse, where it fays " Know ye not that so
many of us as were baptifed into Chrifi, were
baptifed into his death ;" then comes in the 4th
terse, “ Therefore," &c. 1 asked does this mean
fatter baptism ? you fay yer—where is the proof,
I ariced ? when it fays baptifed into Christ, does the
gord Christ mean water ? Here you give me na
fier. J &d, when it fifs “ Buried with him
by baptism into death," Does death mean water ?
You fay yes —Wtae is the proof ? , A bare lay so
carries no conviction to any mind. I confefs my
mind is so icrupulous that 1 want proof, scripture
proof. But l diall giveyou a Quotation from one
w ho has a different un<leril.indmg of these verses,
“ If we ask," fajs le, " how we are brought into
Jesus Christ ? Answer, by baptism, baptifed into
Jefi^ Christ—How are we brought into iris death ?
Answer by baptism, baptifed into his death —How
are we brought into his burial ? Answer, by bap
tism, buried with him by baptifm.:—lfjherelore,
union in lire, death, and burial, be brought abotit
by baptism, then baptism is the instrumental cause
of this union, and then the very idea of alhfion is
entirely loft, and they present themselves in our
view under the notion of cause and effect. Bap
tism is made the cause, and union in lite, death
and burial the effect. Now this being the case
instead of hunting after allusions by w hich baptism
will be any thing or Nothing ; we muff attend to
that adequacy or proportion in the cause, by vir
tue ot which this effect is to be produced. This
adequacy is not formerly in outward baptism,
which is an emblem,and 110 more than an emblem
of'the baptism of the Holy Spirit ; but merely in
the baptism of the Holy Spirit of which the other
is an emblem, 1 Cor. xii. 13, “ For by one Spirit
are we all baptifed into one body ;" It is indeed
the nature and design of both to bring persons into
Christ ; but then the union will be of the fame
kind with the baptism. If the baptism be that of
the Holy Spirit, it brings about an external, vital
union with jefus Christ ; btit if it be only an dot
ward baptism, the union will only be visible and
external ; but as the outward baptism is an em
blem of the inward and vital, the Judgment of
Charity presumes, unless there be good proof to
the contrary, that they who voluntarily receive
the former, are also pofTeffed of the latter. It is
according to this judgment of Charity, the Apostle
addrefles the Romans : He supposes baptifed per
sons to be really baptifed into Jesus Christ, and
then, by virtue of that union, they live, they die,
they ate^buried, they are raised again, and walk
with Christ in newness of life. All which the
Apoflle exprefles in these emphatic words :Our
old men is crucified with him, that the body of (in
might be defiroyed, that henceforth we should not
serve fin : Dead indeed unto fit), but alive unto
God through Jesus Christ our Lord : Like as Chrifi
was raised from the dead by the Glory of the
Father, even so we also should walk in newness of
life, the scope of the Apofile is to show the vital
influence of union with Christ, of which outward
baptism is the.emblem ; arid as soon as any person
enters fairly into the Apofile's scope, the infignifi
cant idea of allusion to the mode of baptism dis
appears."
Here observe, one who was of your own de
nomination is against you. You fay as to John
baptifing in Jordan and Enon, it is enough to
prove the fubjett & mode to any candid person—
" John baptifed in fordun ;" but the learned tell
us that the word translated in, may as well be
rendered to, at or near the water, and 1 can prove
it may sometimes, whom Christ anointed the blind
man's eyes ; he said to him, Go wajh in the pool of
Saloam —when bis neighbours asked him how he
opened his eyes ? He answered and said, ri man
that is c'alled Jesus made clay and anointed mine
eyes, and jaid nnto me, go to the pool of Salaam and
wajh ; and I went and wajhed and / received fight;
John ix. 7, 11. —When John speaks of his baptism
he always fays I bapti/e you WITH water —but you
baptife in water. When Moses was commanded
to bring Aaron and his son to the door of the
tabernacle of the Congregation and wash them
with water, can any doubt bf rhe method of using
the water ? So when John fays I baptife you ttith
water ; does it not carry the fame meaning, or
does not with in the old teflament mean the fame
as it does in the new ?
But I believe fir, that if we have the thing ligni
fied by baptism, that is the wajhing of regeneration
and renewing of the Holy Ghoji, we dial! be happy
even if we are not baptifed with water at all';—
but bow you come to introduce infant baptism in
to this answer I know not —1 asked no question
nbout it ; but as you have prophecied that it would
die before 1 fliail, I will quote a text, that people
may fee when I am dead, whether you (peak the
word of the Lord or not—“ When a prophet (peak
eth in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not
nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord
hath net spoken, but the prophet hath Jpoken it pre
Jumptuoujly, thou Jhalt not be afraid of him, Num.
xviii. 22 You alk me it 1 think "an ass draun
forth beyond the Gates of Jerusalem," is infavour
of my baptism ? 1 answer no—l prove no baptism
by burial. You fay 66 Abraham circumcised all
his male children ;" Abraham did it in obedience
to the command ot God—the scripture fays “ (peak
evil ot no man, be no brawlers, but gentle, View
ing all meaknefs to all men," be thou obedient
tikewife, —Abraharh commanded his children and
houfeholcl after him td do justice and judgment ;
do thou likewise. —Christ fays, “ Suffer little chil
dren to come unto me and forbid them not, for of
such is the kingdom of God ;" tedch thou likewije.
The Apostle Peter told his hearers that the promise
was unto them and their children ; tell thou be
lievers likewise. —The Apostle Paul taught that
the unbelieving hufbaud is fandtified by the wife,
and the wife by the husband, else were their chil
dren unclean, but now are they Holy ; teach thou
likewise.
As 1 have,anfwered vou with as much decency
as I could, should you answer me 1 beg for your
own Lke, you would do likewije.
The ENQUIRER.
[o4' Having pledged onrfel&es for the irifertion
of the above communication, we have given it a
place ;—but in future, “ The Enquirer" arid
“ Plain Truth" ate informed, that their cdtti
monications on Religion cannot gain admission to
the Ledger ; disputes on this fuojeft being not
only improper for hewfpaper difetiffion, but are
disagreeable to, the majority of our, readers.-^—*
C&mmurtlcations on any other fubjeft will be
thankfully received. Editor.
Cbe Republican Lebget.
"TRUE AS THE DIAL TO THE SUN."<
: —=.
PORTSMOUTH, N. H.
TUESDAY, JUNE 14, 1803.
FROM EUROPE}
Since our last, accounts have be^ n receiv
ed from Bourdeax, to the sth May ; —they
state, "that information had been received
from Mr. Skipwith,at Paris, that Bonaparte
had rejected the ultimatum of the Britiih~ab
The National Intelligencer enumerates
the Slates in which elcdions have been made
of members for the next Congress, inclu
ding the New-England States, and the molt
federal; and to Hates which gave in the lift
Congress 48 republicans and 32 federalills,
will give 71 republicans and ^4 federalists for
the next Congress. The incfeafe fforn ad
ding the other States will be full more favor
able. —
—DIED—
In this town, Mrs. Sally Gates, aged 38, wife
of Mr. John G.—-Mr. Gasper La Rufe, an honest
laboring man.—Mailer Nathaniel Balch, aged 6,
elded son of Mr. Samuel B.—A child of Mr. Ju
feph Benson.—A child of Mr. Dominique.
inet ; find had forwarded bit : That Lord
Whitworth was preparing so leave France ;
an^ that war seemed inevitable." We find,
by experience, that very final! dependenceis
to be placed on the conjectures, or even as
sertions of unofficial individuals. Such is
the secrecy in which both the French and
English cabinets concert their measures, that
very little will be known until an accommo
dation is fettled and signed, or a declaration
of wax is made. Centinel.
ez -.
Separate proposals will also be received as
afort said for the lupply all of rations ' which
maybe rtequiredfbr the use of theUnitedS aies
from the iff day of January, 1804 until the
gift day December of the fame year, both
days inclusive within the several Rates herein
after mcnijoned—yjz.
Sixth. At Fort Wilkinson, Cockfpur If
landand at any place or places where troops
are or may be Rationed; marched or recruit
ed within the Rate of Georgia, or on the In
dian boundary line between Georgia and
the Creek nation.
Seventh. At Charlefton,Rocky Mountain
on the bead waters of the Santee, and at any
place or places where troops are or may be
Rationed, marched or recruited within the
Rates of South and North Carolina.
Eighth. At Norfolk and at any place or
places where troops are or may be Rationed,
marched or recruited within the Rate otVir
ginia.
Ninth. At Fort M'Henry, and at any
place or places where troops are or may be
Rationed, marched or recruited within the
Rate of Maryland.
Tenth. At Fort Mifflin, Pittsburgh, Car
lifle, and at any place or places where troops
are or may be Rationed, marched or recruit
ed within the fttates ot Pennsylvania, New-
Jerfev and Delaware.
Eleventh. At Fort Jay, WeR Point, Al
bany, Schenectady, and at any place or pla
ces where troops arc or may be Rationed,
marched or recruited within the Rate of New
York, excepting Niagara. a
Twelfth. At Fort Trumbull, Fort Wol
cott, in any part of Vermont, and at any
place or places where troops are or may be
Rationed, marched or recruited within the
Rates of Connecticut and Rhode-Ifland.
Thirteenth. At Fort Independence (Bf
ton Harbour), and at any place or places
where troops are or may be Rationed, mar
ched or recruited within the Rate of Massa
chusetts, the Diftria of Maine excepted.
Fourteenth. At Portsmouth, Portland,
and at any place or places where troops are
or may be ftatioried,.marched or recruited
within the Rate of New-Hampshire and the
Diftria of Maine.
A Ration to consist of ,one pound arid a
quarter of Beef, or thtee quarters of a pound
of Fork,eighteen ounces of Bread or bluur,
one gill of Rum,Whifky or Biandy, and at
the rate of two quarts ot Salt, four quarts of
Vinegar,four pounds of Soap, and one pound
and an half of Candles to every hundred Ra-
War Department,
'JUNE if, 1803.
Notice is hereby given,
THAT separate proposals will be receiv
ed at the office of the Secretary for the De
partment of War, until the 31st day of July
next ensuing for the supply of all rations,
which may be required for the use of the U
nited States from the ift day of October,
1803, until the 30th day of September, 1804,
both days inclulive, at the following plates,
—viz.
First. At Niagara, Detroit, Chikago, the
Miami of the Lakes, Michilimacinac, Fort
Wayne and at any place in the State of Ohio.
Second. At Vincennes.
Third. At Fort Maffac, near the mouth
of the Ohio, Kalkalkiab and near the mouth
of the Illinois.
Fourth. At South Weft Point, Tellico,
Knoxville, Nalhville, arid at any place or
places where, troops are or may be Rationed,
marched or recruited within the Rate of len
neffee and Kentucky, and within the Chero
kee nation between Tennessee and Georgia.
Fifth. At the Chickasaw Bluffs, Natchez,
Fort Adams, Mobile, and any place within
the MiffiflippiTerritpry more than ten miles
from The river, and on the road between the
Mississippi Territory & the Tennessee river,
& on the toad from Natchez to the boundary
line betweenthe Chocktawsand Chickasaws
and at any place in the Chickasaw or Cuock
taw country between Bear Creek and Natch-
i coffee House.
S<DELdNDE ago iiiutorint ^e puuuc, he has
rceii a: coulideiable expense in fining 18, home
& the purpole of a Commercial coffee noute, and
that it is now read) tor the reception of company.
Heftatters himtek tris Undertaking will meet witH
encouragement, as lucn a place of rerun id ever,
commercial town is highly nccelLr,, He has
:been at the expense of übidihmg a conlieerable
:number of the principal new /papers in de United
IStates. He has refiefhmems u every and the belt
;kind, and ihegrcauU aoeniiou pain to thole gen
tlemen who may phase to honor inm with tneir
company.
Euek-flreeK Pbrtfmuuth, June 14.
*to^^sy. ^^l^ywft ^%
I NE^ GOODS.
§ Edward Parrv, #
* IDs Imported in the Ihip Nancies g
; Q & Ftiendfhip from London, a gener- "
: ¥ ui allortmcnt of , , . g
^ Fajifoble GOODS, %
which ate now opened and tor iale at 9
0 ibis flare % Congress ftreer, at a low g
I V advance, by Wholesale and Retail.Q
1 10 bnauth, 'June 11,1803. *
I^^2^^
Daniel Brown
"LT AS taken a Store adjoining the
A 4 parade, north fide of the State lioule.
Where he has FOR SALE
; J General fifortment of
Weft India GOODS and
GROCERIES,
CoeapJor Lafa
%ne Id.'
for freight or Charier,
9 T dE Bri ^ FRANKLIN,
' burthen about 96 tons,
' w ° years okl, well found, and
Berate ready to receive a, Cargo
now tons at Porumouth Pier., Aepipe
M. S. BLUNT.
lions. The prices of the several component
parts of the Ration mull be fpecified.
The Rations arc to be furnifhed in fuc!>
.quantities, that theie ihall at all times' ,during
the tetih of the proofed cont'ra^L, he feffi
cient for the confomption of theirvops at
Michilimaciriac, Detroit and Niagara fir
fix months in advance, and at each of the 0-
ther polls on the Weftern waters, for at least
three months in advance, of goodand whole
some ptoviGons,if the fame (ball be required:
It is also to be permitted to all and every of
the Commandants ot fortified places or ports
fro call for'at seasons when the fame can be
Ira,fported, or any ti-ie in the case ofoirgen
cy such supplies of like provisions in advance
as in the discretion of the Commandant shall
be deerred proper.
It is to be underlined that Qe C^ntraaoi
is to be at the expense and rii< of illumg the
Applies to the troops; and that all'lcafcs fuA
tained by the depredations of an enemy or by
means of the troops of the United States,
(hall be paid for by the United States at the
price of the articles captured or del!r„ed on
the depuGtions of two or more । erfons of
creditable character,, and the certificate of a
comrhif!f,nett officer afeertainirg the cir
cumftancteof the loss, and the amoum of the
articles for which cumpenfation ihall be
claimed.
The privilege is underlined to be referred
to the United Stales of requiring that none
of the tupplies, which may be furnifhed un
der any of the proposed cotitra^s, (hall be
issued until the supplies which have been or
may be furnifhed under centra's now io
force, have been confirmed, and that a sup
ply in advance may be always required at
any of the fixed ports on the tea board or In
dian frontiers, not exceeding three months.
, H. DEARBORN, Secretary of IDar.
TO BE SOLD
At Public Audion,
THIS DAY, at 12 o'clock,
On the premises, ,
A LOT of LAND in Crofs
(trect, opposite to Mr. M Intire's new
house, measuring on laid Itrect 60 feet, and
extending back 80 feet, to a lane of to feet.
The said Lot will be convenient for a Dwel
ling House or Store, and is a valuable Hand,
having the advantage of the ftrect being made
wider. For further particulars apply to
Alexander Ewen.
Portfmovih June 14.
New-HampJoire Union bank.
PURSUANT to the fourth fee
lion ot the Act incorporating the New-
Hampshire Union Bank, the Stockholders
are hereby Notified to meet at the Bank
Room, on Monday the fourth day of July
next, at ten o'clock A. M. tor tte purpofc
of choosing seven Directors for the eiduing
year.—Ado to act on an., other matters;
whichmay le brougin before them.
HI S. LANGDON, Caftien
June 14, 1803.