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Lord Lyttleton. My sentiments on the present
fubjeft are pretty well known. I shall only ob
serve now, th it lenient measures have only brought
infult,after insult; that the more we conceded, the
higher America has risen in her demands; and the
more insolent she has grown. It is for that reason
that I am now for the mod effective and decisive
mexfures; and am ol opinion, that no alternative
is left us, but to relinquish America for ever, or
finally determine to compel her to acknowledge the
legifluive supremacy of this country. I do not
pretend to decide in the present situation of both
countries, how far it may be expedient to infill on
taxes, for the purpose of raising a revenue; not
but it is evident, we are fully competent to demand
them. However, it is plain, when they return to
HOUSE or LORDS
Tuesday, March 5.
(Continued from our lafL)
Lord Shelburne. An insinuation, my Lords, has
been thrown out, in order to give a fan&ion to the
present m fibres, that a certain Earl (Chatham)
whom I do no't this day fee in his place, has changed
his former opinions refpe&ing them; But I will ven
ture to affirm wihout any direst information on
that head, that it is equally groundless and ill
founded lam Jure I can answer so far as to fay,
that in the several difeourfes, he has don me (he
honour to hold with me on the fubje&, nothing
leading or even tending that way, has ever escaped
him; besides his motion, and the consequent hep
taken by his Lordship, which remains on your
Lordship's Journals, put the matter beyond doubt
or uncertainty. His plan since the firlt commence
ment of this business has been conciliation, not co
ercion. So much has been already said on the fub
jod of the treaties, now on your Lordship's table,
that I Ihall trouble you very little, further than to
express my aftonilhment at a language which has
been held this day, in relation to the employment
of foreigners. It creates double wonder, when,
coming from the supporters of the present measure;,
against whole profeffed system of.policy it militates,
in the mod marked contradiction. The dodriue is
Shortly this; when you have any extensive op /rati
ons of war to carry on, keep your own men at
home employed in our manufa&ures and agriculture,
and truf the defence of the empire, and commit
the prosecution of your moll essential intcreft, to
foreigners ! Your country is small and infignificant
in point of members.; the few hands you have are
wanting at home; and should youemplof them in
war, your country would be ruined „ the plough
and loom mud inllantly hind (till. Jis this my
Lords, a language to be endured? Can this doc
trine be lerioufly maintained hi this House, without
futye&ing its authors to ridicule and derision?
Were thole the sentiments which prevailed during
the late war, when we had at one timemo less than
350 000 natives in actual service; and when the
whole number we employed, amounted to no less
than 418,000 men; Will any man lay that our ma
nuia^ures flood fill tor ivunt of hands, when cur
ports increased lull two millions annually, and
when both our exports and imports exceeded any
thing known in former times? Could we, thirteen
years ago, 'pare 350,000 men, tor carrying on the
operations of war, and carry on our manufactures
to an extent never before known; and Ihall it be
this day gravely contended, that we cannot raise a
fifth part of the number, without ruining our ma
nufactures, which consideration obliges us to ap
ply for rtffi.lance to two paltry German States, as
the only me ins of procuring our political tajvation?
Such arguments would surprize me. coming from
an, quarter; but much more so, from a let of men,
who, have uniformly condemned all intercourse
with the Continent, ail German subsidies and Ger
man connexions. I remember a noble Duke, now
no more, whom I looked upon to be a very able
man, and a noble Earl, both of whom have been
mentioned in the course of this debate (Duke of
Bedford and Lord Bute) during the late war, and
at the conclusion of the late peace, held it as a point
not to be departed from, that this country could
fubfid without alliance on the Continent. I know
that a noble Earl (Lord Chatham) who conduced
that war, wis of the fame opinion, and jultified
his conduct by frequently declaring in private and
public, “ that he did not bring us to the Continent,
that he found us there." We all know, that this
fydem at lad prevailed; and that it has been the
uniform politics of the present reign to adhere to
that system. Shall we now be told, by the fame
men, a&ing up to the fame rule, for more than
fourteen years, that the system is a bad one? that
alliances on the Continent mud be formed; that
we have not men fufficient in the nation to defend
and prot< A us; and that if we had we cannot spare
them, without ruin to our manufacturer? His
Lordftfp men turned his attention to the new le
vies, sh w.d how the principle of keeping up old
corps cdablith d at the peace, had been departed
from by railing new corps; and how Highlanders
had been recruited in London, and several parts of
England, to fill up General Frazer's two battalions.
He fpok Ac ill treatment and resentment of the
King of Prullig and the Emperor; and of our not
having a fi igie ally on the Continent, of the lead
consequence
a proper state of obedience, that the right ib with
us, and that we may exercise it according to cir
cumstances, and local convenience. In the event
of our prevailing in this contest, it is the principle
of an unconditional submission,, I would be for
maintaining; not that I would be for pushing the
consequences of this dodrine to its full extent.
I think the right once fully established and ac
knowledged, Great-Britain ought by all means
to secure to the people of that country, those pri
vileges and, immunities to which every native fub
je& of this free government is confeffedly entitled.
Lord, Camden made a moll elaborate and able
speech on the occasion. He fliewed on various
ground ;, the difference between mercenaries, who
merely fought for money, and allies, who had an
eventual interest in the success of the war. .He
cont ended, that the troops taken into our pay un
der the present treaties, were mere hirelings in the
pre,per sense of the description. He pointed out
the evil consequences of the present measures, re
lative to the national debt. He computed the ex
,pcnces # of the present campaign at the sum of ten
millions, and endeavoured to prove that the ex
cess of the expenditure this year, more than the
annual supplies, would amount to as much as the
whole debt we had difehag d in the course of a
thirteen years peace. He infilled that the expence
would continue to increase, as long as the war
should last; and that in that event, a national bank
ruptcy mus f be the consequence. His Lordship
next turned his attention to America, observed that
they had resources within themselves; that the pre
sent measures would have a double effe& in enab
ling them to refill, by the means of the very money
lent to this country for fuperfluities ; which fuper
finities they would, from necessity, either manu
figure or procure from ether countries. Thus the
present measures, if adhered to, would have every
pohible bad consequence that could be imagined.
It would increase our debt, it would burden the
'nation entirely beyond its abilities, it would teach
America to manufacture for itfelf, it would of
course lower our exports, and injure our manufac
tures; and more than all, would ellrange the af
fe&ion of America from this country, beyond the
power of recovery.
Lord Weymouth. The noble Duke in the blue rib
bon, and the noble Lord who spoke lad, happened
to be both in administration at the time the a& was
palled, which laid on the duties that were the origi
nal cause of all the present dillurbances. It 'is
somewhat extraordinary that they should now com
plain of their own a&s, and come before your Lord
flips and the public, to condemn measures which
for any thing that appears to the contrary, origi
nated from themselves, or at lead received their
fandion.
Duke of Grafton. I confefs I occupied a very high
and refpe&able poll in administration, when the
duties in 1767 were laid upon tea, paper, painters
colours and glass. I am, however, extremely well
pleased to have an opportunity of explaining what
yet has not been effectually cleared up. In that
year when the expences incurred on account of
America were laid before the house of Commons,
the House rose as one man almost, and infilled
that that country should contribute to the burdens
brought on by the military ellablilhment there;
and a motion was made for bringing in a bill, for
that purpole. I spoke to my friends upon the oc
casion, but they all united in opinion, that the tide
was too strong to expeCt to either flem or turn it,
so as to prevent whatever might be offered in that
shape from palling into a law. Finding that all
my efforts would be in vain, I was compelled
to submit, but was resolved, as far as lay in my
power to prevent the effed; and while I gave
way. to do it in such a manner as would cause
least harm: I accordingly proposed the tea duty
as the mod palatable; because though it answer
ed the main purpose of those with whom tax
ation was a favourite measure, it was doing Ame
rica an immediate benefit; for I procured the Fil
ling a pound duty to be taken off, and three pence
to be laid on it in lieu thereof; so that, in fad, it
was nine pence a pound saving to America. How^
ever, the attempt was received in America as I
expeded it would. It immediately caused distur
bances, and universal diffatisfadion. In 1769, there
fore, I moved in the Cabinet for a repeal, and was
out-voted (if I recoiled right) by a majority of one.
This, therefore, was the part I took in this fatal
business. When the partial repeal was agreed to
in Council, I intreated and conjured my brethren
in office to give up this paltry revenue; but, as I
said before, I was over-ruled.
, Lord Camden. For my part I was not in Coun
cil, or did not attend in the Cabinet atthe time this
fatal measure was concerted; and as soon as I was
apprized of the tendency ofit, I expressed my hear
ty disapprobation.
Lord Weymouth. The noble Duke fays, he was
out-voted in the Cabinet, and that there are some
noble Lords now present who took an active part
on tliat occasion. The noble Duke is very right
I was present, and am free to declare, that I was
one of the members of the Cabinet who gave my
vote for having the tea duty retained, and aih not
ashamed to own it. The noble Duke forgets there
NICHOLAS BROOK S,
/It his Piflure, Jewellery, and Dr, Goods Shop, the
fourth door above Black-Horse Alley, in Second
freet, Philadelphia.
KEYSERS pills, Maredant's drops, worm cakes,
Anderlon's Scotch pills, Hooper's female pills,
Turlington's drops, Bateman's drops, Stoughton's
bitters, blue dye, Dr. Hill's balsam of honey, Har
laem oil, cripple curing oil. Also,
Elegant palle and stone buckles for ladies, gilt and
paste shoe and knee buckles, stone and palle flock
buckles, gold earrings, gold and garnet broaches,
gold and garnet rings, gold and moco-ftone sleeve
buttons, a variety of chriftal and paste sleeve but
tons, a beautiful assortment of earrings set round
with marquifet and in pearl, silver thimbles and
broaches, a variety of bottle hands, figured ieals
mounted in gold and other forts, fine set combs,
black led pencils, a good assortment of tootli p ck
cases set in silver and mounted in gold, bell razor
metal scissors, cases of razors, a very elegant assort
ment of ladies lockets in gold and real garnet an^
other forts, the celebrated jubilee knives and forks,
a few very elegant ladies pocket books, tobacco and
fnuff boxes, key rings, japan wares, a variety of
new music, good Roman fiddle firings, fifes, blank
music books, cards of history and geography, also
a journey through Europe or the play of geography
invented by Jefferies, for the inftru&ive entertain-,
ment of young gentlemen and ladies; a few ena
meled lamps, pump lamps, and a ball lamp for a
flair case mounted in brass, cork fkrews, decanter
corks, boot flraps, tooth powder and tooth brushes,
general atlaff.3 containing 36 new and corre& maps,
by Pularet and others in one large book, garden
sheers, silver pinchbeck and fleel watch chains, iword
knots, cards of trinkets for watch makers windows,
watch springs, wash balls and pomatum, gentlemen
and ladies twist and silk horse whips mounted in
silver, view of the battle of Charieftown, Romans'^
map of the feat of war, a view of the engagement
between the Row-gallics and two men of war, a
piece intitled the Comet of 74, being a political
peace done in New-England, also the very belt
copper-plate writings done by the greatest masters
in Europe, allo a curious collection of the most ap
proved pictures, such as hunting, views of towns,
landfkips, lea fights, land battles, scripture pieces,
flower pieces and a great variety of japan prints,
and many other ;orts in and out of glass, &c.
was no majority, or calling voice; the numbers
were equal. Ihe noble Lord's apology is the most
extraordinary I ever heard: his Lordship fays, he
was not prelent at any time it happened to be deba
ted in Council. Will t e noble Lord pretend to
excuse himfelf as a Cabinet Councellor on that
ground; or if he could, can he pretend to defend
himlelf in giving his approbation and assent, and
putting the question in every successive stage of the
bill to a measure, fitting on that woollack as Prcfi
dent of this august Assembly, which he has affdrted
in the course of the night's debate, will be the cer
tain ruin and deftru&ion of this country;
The Duke of Richmond replied to the several an
swers and observations made on his speech in the
course of the debate: and the question being put,
there appeared for the motion, Contents 32. Non
Contents too.
ISAAC HAZLEHURST
Has for Sale, at his Store in Water-llreet, the fifth
door above Market-street:
COFFEE of the bell quality, Mufcovado Su
gars in hogsheads, tierces and barrels, Molas
ses, Cinnamon, Powder Blue, and a few hogsheads
of exceeding good Jamaica Spirit, five years old.
FOUR DOLLARS REWARD.
RAN AWAY from the fubferiber of New-
Hanover townfllip, Philadelphia county, on
the 13th of May last past, JOHN HUNT, an
indented English servant LAD; he is about 20
years old, little for his age, is pock marked, has
whitish yellow hair, speaks broken German, and
had on when he went away, a half worn felt hat,
a shirt of Russia sheeting, a blue regimental coat
turned up with bown, tow trow fers, and half
worn shoes. Whoever apprehends said Servant
and brings him to his mailer, or secures him so
that lie may have him again, may receive the a
bove Reward and reasonable charges, paid by
7^3- * JACOB BISHOp c
HAMILTON and SON,
Tobacconists.
HAVE moved from the corner of Spruce and
Water-streets, to the house belonging to,
and lately occupied by Mr. John Wallace,"in Se
cond-ftre^, fix doors below Market street, where
they continue to carry on their Scotch fnuff and
tobacco Manufactory in all the several branches
as usual; they have laid in a large flock of rhe
very best Virginia leaf tobacco, and are confident
°' giving the utmost fatisfa&ion to their former
customers and the publick. Orders will be punctu
ally anfwer'd with all possible dispatch; they give
cash for good empty fnuff bottles.