National gazette. — Philadelphia [Pa.], 1793-02-13 00:00:00, page 4

Conclusion of Mr. Boueiwot's Spscch
in the House of Reprefcntatives, on
Monday January 14,011 the petitions of
the officers of the late army for further
comper.fition.
[Continuedfrom No. ijj.]
< vent proved the truth of tie
A fuppiJition, and the value of the
funded debt at one time rose to 2 ;s, on th_
pound on 6 percent, w-hiie loans have been
made by the United Stales, at from 4 to
5 percent. Congrefsthen §ave a ccrtainty
of 6 per cent, for a number of years, on
the terms of the loans for a partial reduc
tion for 10 years, and a kfs interest on the
arrears of interest then due. This was
certainly a full and generous equivalent,
End the only advantage gained by the pub
he, was a modification of the debt, by
». hich the burthen would be divided, and
the increased number of citizens during
14 or 15 years, would bear their propor
tion of f e expence of a war, in the benefit
of which they so eflentialiy participated.
At the time rf funding the pub'ic debt the
i'redeemable quality was confulered 33 a
full equivalent,and 3 compliance with the
public faith. Mr. B. alledged [hat he was
then a public creditor, and confulered it in
that point of light. lie was a creditor
tint had a right to feel a loss as much as
any man.—He was 1 creditor of 1776,
wlun the army could notbeTent toCana
da without hard money.— He was a cre
ditor in 1777) when the prisoners were
per'fh ng for want of food anJ cloathing,
and the government could not furnifh a
finale suit, or a tolerable ftipply for their
exirsnie distress—lie was a creditor of
1778. when, at the Valley Forge, the
tracks of the fuldie'rs were marked with
flood for want of (hoes, which he colleited
Ln different parts of the ftnte by his own
e':e!tiort, and at h sown ex pence without
fee or rcwirri ; 11 ! was not repaid till
1779. —He was t large creditor of 1779,
v.hen Congic-fs fert to all parts of the U
rion, earuc!'.!calling on the friends of
their country to come forward with loans
for the publ 0 exigencies ; and he was a
creditor as an officer of the anny, in which
he had served. Under this vew of tiie
fubjeifl, Mr. B. ack lowledged that he had
entertained great jea - ulles, left some othe
end was airrud at by the prefe.u reLlu
tion, than the olteniible one ; this was
raised when he heard gentlemen found the
success of the resolution on the fav ngs
made by the funding system, when those
gentlemen had for years pall been conti
nually representing that fyllem as founded
on an extravagant wufte of public treasure:
That the irredeemabdity of the debt was
n tax on the govern rent, which ought
rievtr to have bc:n admitted, as monies
might have been loaned at 4 per cent and
by that means one thiid of the debt saved
to the union : What ideas then mull we
form of a icfolution calculated to raise the
hopes of the memorialists, which in the
end would certainly turn out a mere sha
dow and worse than a fliadow ; this really
was trifling with the complaints of our fel
low citizens. There had been no fairings,
the creditors who had pofftfiion of the
public contra&s, had received a full equi
valent for their demand by their own free
consent, at 20s. in the pound ; where then
was room for a demand on the government
for any Giving? It there was a foundation for
clai.p, it mull be againll the pofTefTors of
the certificates, but however jult it might
be, it was merely illusory to form the reso
lution on principles that had no exigence.
The losses fullained by the line of the
army, were not peculiar to them as credit
ors of the United States. All classes of
citizens who had generously advanced their
money for the support of this very army in
food, cloathing, arms and ammunition, as
well as that of the government itfelf at
home and abroad, had been equal fufferers,
without the emolument that the army had
received, in the moll distressing times of
the war. The army had been a refuge for
many gentlemen driven from their homes,
while other citizens were obliged to wander
for a considerable time without employ or
relief. He continued his observations to
other citizens who had fuffered during the
war, and particularly mentioned the fuf
ferers at falmouth, Charles-Town, New-
York, Norfolk, York-Town, and South-
Carolina, as those who were of the fir ft
clals in the United States; as also the
aged, the widowa, and the orphan credi
tors, who had fuffered without receiving
any advantage whatever from the public
bounty.
Mr. B. then proceeded to consider the
piacticability of themeafure, supposing its
equality and juflioe to be fairly ellablifhed
As the app ication was now founded on
tie savings on each man's individual cer
tificate, the principal equally reached eve
ry public creditor. Suppose then A. B.
C. D. and E. fold their certificates toge
ther ; A. fold his at 6/8 in the pound to
riife a capital to purchase public lands,
which at one time in this city fold at 6d
per acre. B. fold his certificate at a/6 in
tlie pound, to keep a wife and children
from llarving. C. fo'd his to raise a ca
pital to go into the fpectilaling line, !)■
fold on one day from neceflity, but repla
ced it the next day and kept it, till the
funding system took place, and then fold
at 20/ in the pound, while E. having con
fidence in the government, and not under
a nccefTity of felling, funded it under the
present system. How could a discrimina
tion take place here, or would it be fair e
qually to remunerate all these original
ho'ders ? but suppose some had fold at 2oj
and also had received all the emoluments
of the Pennsylvania line, where t would bt
the dillributive justice of the rueaime now
proposed. If you extend th s dodtiine to
the public creditor* at large, it will appear
it) a llrange point of light. It is well
known that the common pradtice of the
government during the war, was to ifTue
certificates iti fictitious names, the names
of clerks in office, of heads cf depart
ments, or other persons, merely to make
them answer the purpose of a paper cur
rency : As they were payable to bearer,
the name was never thought to be mate
rial. The person do ng the service or
lending his money, received these certifi
cates, and was really the original holder :
yet the face of the certificate spoke a dif
ferent language. In this cafe a discrimi
nation would be impossible, and much the
largest part of the public debt was con
tracted in this way. After the war was
over, many del.ti had been paid by mer
chants and others to their foreign credi
tors and others, in certificates at their no
minal value, and in other cases individuals
had failed, and the loss wholiv fallen on
their creditors.
Mr. B udinot earned!)- contended that
tl-e fxpence of * discrimination would ex
ceed the revenues cf the United
The nature of transferable Hock, which is
deligned to operate as current (noney,
forbids the idea of a difcriminatioji, and
all public credit mull uecefTarily fail if such
a do&rine was to prevail in the finances of
the union This was a very ferions and
important idea, worthy the attention of
the applicants, who certainly were inter
e!ted in the public weal. The right of
freemen to d fpofe of their own property
as they plcafe, was involved in th'e ques
tion ; for if the government was td make
up every loss on a transfer, then it'ought
not to be made without their confertt.
Mr. Boudinot 1 oped he would not be
underflood to deny either the service* or
the ftifFerings of the army ; but he slledg
ed the promised recompence was given,
which had been transferred with all the le
gal and equ'table right to the holder who
had received from gove nment the full va
lue, and therefore no further demand ei
ther in law, or equity,remained against the
government. The negotiable quality was
i principle in the securities inilled on by
the army, and which they had exercised as
they chose, for different purposes, and
from different views. He acknowledged,
that the generosity, benevolence, and hu
manity of Congress had been adilreffed :
To this he answered that they were but
llewards of the people's property, fer
which they were answerable. That they
were notfent heretofliow their generosity;
it was to do justice, and that not to one
1 lass, but to every description of citizens.
He knew of but one rule for every citizen
of the United States. They were all e
qually represented in that house—but at
all events it became them to be just before
they were generous. Mr. B. assured the
house that he had taken up so much of
their time, because he found that no one
had come forward fairly to meet the ques
tion, and he had too great a regard for
the memorialists to wish them to go away
under the idea that any thing had been
refufed to them which ought in proprie.
ty to have been done. At any rate he
had candidly and above board given the
reasons of his vote on this important oc
casion, which would be against the ques
tion proposed by the gentleman fron Vir
ginia.
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