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BRITISH HOUSE of LORDS, May 26.
AMERICA.
IrfAßOyiS Lansdowne rose, and as-
JVI ter taking a view of the condud of
Ministers at home, and the fituationof affairs
on the frontier of France, drew the attention
of their Lordships to the conduct of Ministers
towards neutral nations, or those powers of
Europe, who had not confederated in the mi
litary crusade. Their conduct towards Ge
noa, was highly reprehensible and impolitic ;
it had alienated the affections of that Repub
lic, and driven itinto the arms of France. It
becomes now in i§s turn a (peclatotofpu^de
feat and losses at Corsica, the circumstances
'of which it is found expedient to conceal from'
the ,public pye. Their conduct towards Swe-/
den & Denmark, i, marked with nhlefs fore
sight and policy. Those powers have alrea
dy fitted outage fats, & should they once^
be brought to ad irrconjun&ion with the en
emy, he did not know to what an extents
war and misery we ffiowld be driven. ,_
The Marquis having drawn the outline of
our. fixation with refpe& to the war in Eu
rope,the profpeCtof pur success, & the dark
ness which rested on it, said, that what had
prompted him chiefly to call upon and to in
terest the minds ot their Lordships, was a
matter now of the highest magnitude and the
widen concern. It was the relative situation
of Arnica to this country. America % said,
as a neutral nation, and he believed, as a wife
one, had, adopted that condua which if be~
tavcdl her :o adopt. Nevertheless, as a neu
tral nation, America had a right to our at
fention and regard in point of justice and po
licy. Whatever differences of opinion had
arisen between Greatbritain and the Europe- ^
an powers,' the inters of America, and the'
ftfeidfaip of America, should be cultivated
and revered. The peace which was made
with America, in 1783, was such as was cal, ;
culated not only to lay the foundation of an
alliance, but of a lifting friendfhipj ft mark
, ed out the boundaries of her dominion with
a degree of liberality—-It gave her the ocean
as the natural barrier on the e,ft, and the
Great Lakes, as the natural limits on the
norths weft? The forts and outposts which
by treaty should have been ceded to her, have
remained since in pur hands, (for what rea
son he did not now with to difeufs) and tho'
repeated applications have been made to gov
ernment, ye a it had appeared from Mr. Jef
ftrfon's letter to the Minister Plenipotentiary
for America, (Mr Pinckney) that no fatisfap
tory answer can be obtained refpeaing,hem.
The Marquis then adverted to the order 1
of council, of Nov, 1793, for the fizzing and
detaining all American veffcls laden with
wheat, flour, or grain, bound to any of the
ports ot France— which order had been kept
a secret for sortie time, and which, from the
evil consequences that would accrue toGreat
bruain in its commercial concerns, had call- ,
ed for a deputation of the merchants of the;
felty of London, who deprecated any rupture
with America, as one of the greatest calami
, lies, which, in a political as well as commer^
cial point of view, could happen to this coun
ty, This measure, the Marquis represented
as ungenerous, provoking ^impolitic; and
^hen added, as matter of the highest aggra
vation, the conduct of Ministers, in the Be
haviour of the Cenful at Algiers, towards,the
Americantrade to Portugal- It was matter
of notoriety that the Portugueft had kept in
the Mediterranean, a fleet ready to aft at all
times against the Algerine pirates. Various
repfans had been assigned for this "armament.
Some said it had been from the old fopeifti
tious grudge which the Portuguese had a
gainst the Barbary fates. Others, for the
purpose of exercising their marine, and keep
~ fngitin a&ion. But here ^ served to pro
. teQ the trade of America to Lisbon, arid here
. it fecomesa nobje& of serious attention. It
4s alledged as a fad-a fad he had good rea
son, he said, to believe, (but which hewofid
reifli to hear fairly denied arid refuted) that
• a truce had been made, under the influence
of the English Consul, between the Dey of
" . Algiersand the Portuguese ; ^dthat to con?
. sequence of this W, the America,, un
apprehenfive of the dander which arose, from
: ^ the treachery of the Rates of Barbary, ^ere}
fed, plundered & led into captivity, where
♦many of them now groan under the oppref
'^°The n^eMarquhthen proceeded to state
which would fell most ferkudy and feelingly ,
M ONDA Y, August 18, 1794.
to Ministers to explain, and whi^ he deem
ed essentially niceffary for their Lorafhips to
behi forriled df, was, the recent todtlua of
Mtaiftdrsiri the person of Lord Dorchester,;
Governor General of Quebec, , He con fider
ed LOTtffyrchefter as a man top prudent to
aft orhimfelfunder circrimftarices 10 big with
danger, so pregnant wfthcalamity and roin,
had henot the express authority of Ministers
for such a : conduct —a conduct which, the
Marquis (aid, went to open a feene of horror
and devaluation iri the weftefn world, by an
open declaration of war between Greatbri
tain and America. Lord Dorcbefter had, he
said, recently received a deputation from the *
Indians who inhabit to the northwest of the
Ohio, announcing their wifhts to uriite with
the Englifli, and break the peace with the co
lonies^ The noble Marquis here read the;
answer of LotcLD. to this deputation, which
re-echoed every hostile sentiment breathed by
theffi; affixing to each period the Endearing
& paternal appellation, '' Children."
The Marquis theorfind, that if a
war with America was the object of#
rheir wifhei; char if the peace of 7 8g
had now given diffrfufaaion to those
who thew concluded it, they should
come forward and declare their change ; ;
of fentimeoty and unfold the purposes {
of such a war. The Americans, froml
their councils and public difcuffions,j
wished, by every means, to avert the :
Calamities of such 1 ftatt, and had:
given proofs of forbearance under in+|
foils and irritation ; but he would ne-1
vertheieb, from a confederation of the;
great import! nee that the trade of A
tote* to this country, most sin
cerely advise Ministers, before they
enterectoon a measure so impolitic, and
on which a great part of the com
merce of this tifland haw depended,
carefully to confider it in all its cir
cumstances § and he hoped that the,
would fairly come forward, and give
that information which their Lord
ships should know on the tafts he, had
mentioned, and which he would be
very happy to find fallacious. On
thele coofideracioES he would move,
"That an humble address be present
ed to his Majesty, requeftiog his Maj
esty would be gracioufl, pleased to
order, that there be laid before this
Houle, such iftruaioos as have been
give#, or ordered to be given, to Lord
Dorcbefter, relative; to the differences
between the American States, and the
Indians to the north weft of the Ohio,
I&Lord Dorchefteft answer thereto "
Lord Grenville rose m reply to the Mar
quis of Lanfdown, who, he said had Intro
duced into his speech much extraneous mat
ter, and which was no way relevant to th©
motion he had brought forward. He had
set out with taking a view of the internal fom-,
ation of this country, and» had used expres
sions which indicated his, uftpr giffent to the
measures lately adopte+by ^dminifration.
He had said, government : $I measures of
unmerited and unprecedented severity. This,
- his Lordihip laid, was quite foreign to the
present motion , nevertbelefs, a; the noble
Marquis had thought proper to introduce if,
he conceived it proper to notice it in reply.
That government, so far from fifing undue
severity, had, on the contrary, been almost
criminally tardy, was a pointto which he was
sure the ferife of the country would concede.
They had waited until they found the fer
ment of opinion was ready to break out into
action ; and the conferences of such aliens
would be bat a counterpart of those horrorirs
which we few patting before out eyes in an
other country. Let any man look at this
country for these twoye^s past, and then fay
if he can possibly deny the urgency and ex
pediency of the measures which have , been
adopted. After the fay.which the noble
Marquis had takenof our domeftie situation,
the fubje& of the neutral powers had engag
ed bis attention. Lord Grenville said he was
ready at any timi to jufyfy & condu& of
Greatbrirain, in those parts in which it had
been impeached, relative to its^candu& to
ward neutral powers- He maintained that it
had been much less vigorous than it war w«-
ranted by the la^of nations. ~
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It was a principle admitted, and indeed teas
ineonteftible, that you might prevent ~^ny
power from supplying your enemy unde^Hte
cloak and cover of an insidious neutra^f,./
Ihe^/gerine truce was the next obje&ttat
demanded his Lordship's attention. '-¥he
Portuguese, he said, were always pur natural b
friends, and ever ready to give amicable af
fiftanc©; but from,heir situation with the
Algerines they were prevented from render
ing,hataffift^nce, which otherwise they were
inclined to give tis. Thus conditioned thy
applied to the government of this country,
tq aft rhe part of a mediator and to endeavour
t^effeftuate a peace between them and the
Algerines. His Majesty did accordingly dis
patch a Consul who negotiated a truce, but
he denied it was attended with any of that fe
crerv, and for those purposes which wereftat
ed by the noble Marquis. The order of
council had also been introduced into the
Marquis's speech of this evening. His Lord
(hip asserted, that in refped to th.it measure,
this country would have been juftified had it
gone to even greater length : What did we
!do? We did not seize the corn, on 'he con
trary, we merely brought their yeffels into
English ports and paid a fair price for their
cargoes . — Surely the Americans could not
I be said io be ill treated. Were they not as
well paid in English gold as they would have
|been in French affignats?
lAnother fubjea introduced wu th;
I boundary line. Thi,, his Lordthip
said, real the firft time that ever he
;had heard that article ty the treaty of
I peace stated as an advantage to their
I country. He admitted that although
it was not advantageous, yet the trea
ty should be observed ; at the fame
time it was to be remembered, that it
was mutually binding on both parties,
and it was unfair to demand the exe
cution of a treaty by one party„when
it remained unfulfilled by the other.
It was unjust to demand one party to
relinquish their advantages without re
ceiving those benefits which they had
ftipulaced for, by the very fame treaty.
He had voted for the treaty of peace,
not because he thought it was the
most definable that could be procured;
and further experience had convinced
him he was right in his opinion of the
article fettling the boundary line of
the American state.
He now came to the last part of
the noble Marquis's speech, and on
which he seemed most to rely. He
should only fay, that the paper which
was produced from the pocket of the
noble Lord, was one that never before
came to bis knowledge. He had re
ceived- none such from Lord Dorches
ter; and if any such really did exist,
he should doubtless in due time hear
of it; together with that noble person's
reasons for his conduct. Until that
time he thought it decent and deco
rous not to investigate the matter.-"-
He should therefore oppose the mo
tion as unnecessary.
The Duke of Grafton deprecated
the idea of a war with America, whom
be thought should be united to us by
a family compaft. /He wished Min
isters had given a more explicit infor
mation upon the fubjea before the
House, as certainly they well knew
whether there was any thing io Lord
Dorcheftet's inftruaiom which would
I lead him to yfe such a speech as that
which was foppofed to be uttered by
him to the Indians. ;*r
! Lord Sydney said, that Lord Dor
chester was a person tffa highest
prudence as well at abilities, and to
which he added a particular regard
for America, it would therefore be
improper to discuss hit conduft now,
without being in possession of those
has which might influence hit refo
, Imionfr i K
[Num. 95.]
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Lord Stanhope said that the noble
Secretary had admitted possibly such
& paper might exist.
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Lord Stanhope infixed he had ad
'mitted that there might exist such a •
paper, and consequently the poffibifo
ty of a war with America.
Lord Grenville laid, if spy other
Noble Lords, had said what had just
fallen from the Noble Lord, it had
required an answer, as it was, it re
quired none. The House then divid
ed. Contents, - ,""
Non Contents, 69— Majority 60.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MAY 26.
Embargo laid oh foreign ships by the Amer
ican states.
Mr. Shtridan/aid, then aval a paper <wbicb
bad created a general alarm, and o n account ts
<wbicb the Stafa of America bad laid an Embar
go on foreign foips. The paper be alluded to, pur
ported to be an answer green by Lord Dorcbefter
to the Indians of Lowoer Canada. In that paper
bis Lordjmp animadverted on the condua oj tie
American State,, and said, that it foe likely cue
(boud be at,fr &tb Amrita before the end of
the , regent,ear,&c. He thought it^was of con
iequcncethat tbh piper Jbiuld be laid before the
Yaufe, and it ivas fueled to have been written
in cenjQetfte o, orders from this country, & there
fore be movedfor d* Addressf miliar to the Mar
quis ofLandjd&um:.
Mr. Secretary Dur.das said, that ,as the
f< moment be bad fter heard of such a paper;
and be was certain that do orders bad been font
from this country to Lord Dorcbefter to writefuch
aletter.„ %
Mr. Fexjald, if that letter ^@a forgery, thal
circumfance could not be communicated ^ fooh ,
to the country. It bad been conjidered as an au
thentic letter in America, wheel it bad already
produced feme mifchief, tie was extremely Lapp,
to bear from the King's ministers; that it was <4
afabrication. It bad been Jaid, no order s were
fat to Lord Dorcbefter to write ,cb a ktre,but
be wifeed to know whether an, orders were tent t,
his Lordfbip that would authorize him to curite
fetch a letter I He tow that noble Lord was rat
a person who would write Jueb a letter witocut
author it,.
Mr. Secretar) Dundas freril, believed Lord
Dorcbefter incapable of writing an, paper that
bad the leaf tendency to involve this country in a
war with America. He declared Upon bit honour
as a gentleman, that be had never heard before of
such a letter ^and that it bad not been written in
confluence of an, orders from this to®r. So
little def roue were we of engaging ebith America
in a, fecits ofbofilities, that th utinofi endea<v
burs of this country bad been ujedfbr the purpose of
fW re fog hdilities 6flweentbe Indians and the
American States,
Sir Francis Barfing; paid that whether that,,
letter was or eyas not a forger), it bad been a&ed
upon, and was one circumfancs, on account of
which an embargo bad been laid on ships on the
26th March's''
Mr. Wilberforce Jaid, since that letter was a
forgery# infodd of being prede&,e of at, r^,
ture bitcyten ibis country and America, it would,
have a contrary fa, and produce between the
two nations a Wronger union.
1, Two olfervations arifefrbm the above de
bate—firft that it was the Portuguese government
thatf elicited the intervention of Britain in making
the trace with Algiers; and that the injury of the
French was its,&,bjea=fecond,that Lord Dor
chefer bad no infrations froth the Britijb Minis
try, to predicate bisjpeech to the Indians ; which
now appears to, be the weak child of bis Lordjbip's
dotage. Tbegeneral apptarauce of the debate is
favourable to peace; bid our great complaint of
ftailarion in tty inflindies, has net been mention
ed—The debate being 69 day,face ma, occasion if.
Atatagu by & CreHied Botch.
[Over Gen. Jourdan's Army.) ~
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WHITIHALL, MAR aS. A difpatcb, of
which tbefidlowing is a copy, dated fournay, the
26th of Mi,, W 0 this da, received from bis Roy
al Higbnefs the Duke of Fork, by tie Right Hon.
Hem, Dundas, his Majefys prints Secretary
of State for the Home Department. ,'/'
t t, sir, fq-Tournay, May 26.
I HATE the pleefurt to inform you; that bis
,ferialfeeft, ba s received, this morning, in
telligence from General Count Kaunitso, that,,™j
tybinjf.be attacked the French arm, which bad
pa&ibeSambrej artdhadtakenap^toitsl^
to Ratartra,, and its right to FmtaiMl'R<%*s