The royal gazette — [Charleston] S.C., 1781-08-25 00:00:00, page 4

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Parliamentary Proceedings.
House of Commons, Tuesday, Maj 3,
fR. T. Turfed said, the gentlemen, who opposed the
motion, had coined the word Delegates, merely to
'create a groundof objection.
Mr. Powys raid, had the Petition been signed by any persons
affirming the characters of Delegates, he certainly should have
opposed it directly ; as the case Rood, he thought it ought to
go to a Committee;
Sir Harry Houghtou thought the inconsiderable number of
persons who had Signed the Petition no objection to it; they
were as well entitled to the consideration of that Iloufe as a
larger number; he had other objections to the Petition. Sir
Harry paid Sir George Savile very high compliments, but could
not agree with him in regard to the motion.
Mr. Rolle stated his approbation of the fubje& matter of the
Petition, and his zeal to support the right of petitioning ; but
he wholly disapproved of Associations and Committees with
out doors to watch and controul Parliament. He thought them
neither legal nor constitutional, and as he considered the pre
sent Petition as coming from a Committee of Delegates,
though the gentlemen had not Signed it in that character, he
Should oppose the motion. Mr. Rolle said, he remembered to
have had it as an opinion from a lawyer, that an association for
the preservation of the game, and for the purpose of carrying
the game laws into execution, was illegal.
Sir Francis Basset made a very spirited Speech against the mo
tion, Sir Francis stated, that a late meeting held in the coun
ty of Devon, for the purpose of appointing Delegates, was
very thinly attended, there not having been above 20 persons
present, although there were thirteen thousand freeholders in
the coutity. Sir Francis said further, that three persons were
chosen Delegates, and only two of the three had Signed the
present Petition ; he concluded therefore, that the third did
foot approve of it.
Sir George Yonge said the Hon. Baronet was mistaken, the
county meeting of Devon had been very large and refpeCtable,
as he could witness. With regard to the three Delegates, he
was the third that had not Signed it, and the reason was, he
Happened to be 270 miles from London, when it was Signed,
out he fully approved of the contents ; and if the forms of the
House would have admitted of it, was ready to Sign it even
then. Sir George went into an animated argument on the
powerful influence of the Crown, and said it was almost irre
sistible, that even the largest fortunes did not Secure indepen
dency; the firft men of the firft estates in the kingdom could
rot help bowing to the Mipifter, and attaching themselves to
Government; That now almost every body fold thcmfelves to
Administration, let their fortune, rank, Station, trade, or oc
cupation, be what it would. That nothing but the Providence
of God c6uld prevent a man from losing his independency, a
large estate was no Security.
Sir Francis Basset thinking that a part of what Sir George
had said upon the score of independency, glanced at him,
made a Short reply, and defied every individual of the other
fide of the House, to prove that he had ever acted but from
motives of the purest independency.
Mr. Sawbridge avowed his being a delegate, and said, if de
legation was illegal, why had not Government taken care to
bring him, and the other gentlemen who had been chosen De
legates, to condign punishment?
The Solicitor-General of Scotland [Mr. Murray] made his
maiden speech, and insisted upon it, that every attempt to awe
and controul the legislature, was illegal, and tended to sub
vert the constitution. He argued the point very closely, and
said, the persons, who had Signed the Petition, being known
without doors in the characters of Delegates, assumed a dis
guise when they came to that House, in the form of private
individuals petitioning Parliament He adverted to the times
of Henry tne First, and Third of France, Shewing that the
league bf the Duke of Guise, and other leagues, tending to dis
turb the quiet of that kingdom, had their origin in associa
tions.
Lord Maitland made a warm and able reply. His Lordship
said, he would not fuffer such doctrine to pais unnoticed ; he
well knew that delegations were not only Strictly legal and
ftridly constitutional, but in some circumstances highly expe
dient. He mentioned the example that the House itfelf had
fat the last year, when it delegated its own best rights to men
as much aliens to Parliament, as foreigners were aliens to
Great-Britain. Had not delegations been legal, it would have
been known by Government having commenced a legal attack
bn those who acted as delegates, a fort of war which Minister;
were much more inclined to pursue with eagerness and vigour,
than war against the natural enemies of the country.
Sir William Dolben opposed the Petition as premature. The
House, he said, were proceeding to comply with its prayer.
Mr. Fox rose, and spoke for an hour and a half. He set out
with faying, that the whole of the objections that had been
stated that day to the Petition, were solely to the manner and
the forth of it, and not to the matter, which was the real Sub
ject of difeuffion. When the House received the Petition,
then was the fit moment to have objected to the manner and
the form ; at present, the object of the motion was to refer
the matter of the Petition to the consideration ofa Committee,
and to that, and that only, ought the arguments to be dreCt
cd. Some of those that had been advanced, with regard to
the manner, were altogether irreconcileable to common rea
son, and even to common sense. One Honourable Gentleman
had said the petitioners had assumed a disguise, by fubferibing
their names in the manner that they had done, and others
again had considered them as Delegates, though they certain
ly did not come there in that character. With regard to the
firft of thefc, all the disguise he had assumed was, he had cal
led himfelf Charles Fox, which being his real name, Struck
him as a very extraordinary disguise indeed ; and as to his be
ing a Delegate, that he gloried to be, but undoubtedly he did
not appear in that capacity, as far as regarded the present Pe
tition. Mr. Fox went into a variety of Shrewd comments on
what Lord Fielding had said, relative to the late riots having
saved Administration, observing, that young men, however
attached to Ministers, could not avoid Speaking the truth.
The noble Lord had truly said, that the riots and disorders of
the last year were the grounds on which Administration Stood,
fit basis for such a building; mater pulchra,fha pul^hrior! pro
per mother for such a child ! After playing with this Idea for a
considerable time, he went on to comment on what had fallen
from other speakers ; and, before he concluded, ridiculed the
Solicitor-General, who, he perceived, was prepared to rife,
by anticipating his argument, and laughing at him for going
out of the House without voting last year, when the petitions
were the fubjeCt of debate.
The Solicitor-General explained the reason why he had hot
voted last year, and declared the fubjeC t required much consi
deration, but that he never had a doubt as to the resolutions
moved and agreed to. He said, he Should have voted against
them, had he Stayed long enough to vote. That he never saw
passion, prejudice; and delirium prevail so violently f n that
House, as it did on the 6th of April, 1780. Mens minds were
carried away with an undefined found, and they loft their rea
son on the bare hearing of the word influence, although no
person knew what it meant. He recollected that a learned
Gentleman [Mr. Dunning] had said, it Was in that House; it
tas every where ; it was to be met with in the Street ; and this
was all the definition the last Parliament had ever heard of it.
He denied that delegations, such as those row in exifterice,
were legal; their avowed purpose was to overawe the legilla
ture, and as Soon as that day was over, their conduct would
be the Subject of the public comments and censure of the De
legates and Committee-men, in the public papers! He Solemn
ly denied that the influence of the Crown prevailed in that
House, and afted, where it was to be found? Look to the
Courts in Westminster-hall, is justice duly administered ? Who
can deny that it is? Look to the army and navy! Are not
many officers of high rank in the lea and land Service in oppo
sition in both Houses ? Does the complexion of the reign look
like that of a reign where the Crown is scrupulous of its own
prerogative, and desirous of encroaching on the liberties of
the people ? The bill to render the judges falarics for life, and
the Nullum Tempus bill, are undeniable testimonies to the con
trary. Mr. Solicitor spoke very ably for near an hour, and
answered almost every one of Mr. Fox's arguments.
Mr. Dunning made a long reply. He jollified Delegations
and Associations, declaring that they were legal or illegal, ac
' cording as the occasion and the circumstances of the times ren
dered them either one or the other. The ad of Charles the
Second, for preventing more or less than a certain number of
persons from petitioning Parliament or the King, without
leave of the justices, under the pain of certain penalties and
imprisonment, having been mentioned in the course of the de
bate, Mr. Dunning said that a& was no longer in force, being
virtually repealed and annulled by the Bill of rights.
The Attorney-General rose to deny this doctrine; he quoted
the authority of the Court of King's Bench, to prove that the
ad of Charles the Second was in full force, and referred to the
language of the Court on that head, when Lord Mansfield de
livered his charge to Lord George Gordon's jury, upon his
Lordship's late trial.
Lord Mahon, Mr. Turner, and Lord Surrey, each made
short speeches, and the House divided at near one in the morn
ing, when the numbers were Ayes 135 Noes 212.
Colonel Roberts, Mr. Barker (Member for Devon) Mr.
Martyn, Mr. A. Powlett, Mr. Harrison, and Mr. D. P. Coke,
a so spoke in the above debate.
[To BE CONTINUED.]
On WEDNESDAY, September 12, 1781,
Will be SOLD, by Messrs. COOKE & WEBB,
At the Dwelling-House of the late Mr. William Trusler, de
ceased, No. 3, Meeting-Greet;
A GREAT Variety of Heufhoid and Kitchen Furniture,
1 1 confining of mahogany chairs, tables, a deik and book-case,
bed-steads, feather-beds, china, &c. Also, several valuable Negroes,
among whom are three compleat butchers, a wench a good plain
cook, with her two sons, both handy boys; another wench a com
pleat washer and ironer, with her child; and one ditto a good
femp^refs, with her two children; likewise, a quantity of good
Tallow.
It is requeued of those who are indebted to the estate, to-make
speedy payment; and all those to whom the estate is indebted will
plcafe fend in their demands properly attested, to
D. CANNON, )
2otb, 1781. JOHN WEBB, , Administrators.
I T.DOUGHTY,)
TO BE SOLD,
At St. John's River in East-Florida, deliverable by the 20th of
October next;•
ABOUT one thousand barrels of TURPENTINE and
PITCH, (but mostly turpentine) to be delivered in good mer
chantable order. Good bills at a reasonable date, will be taken in
payment. For particulars apply to
TAMES & EDWARD PENMAN.
Also Wanted to charter, from the River St. John in East-Florida,
to London, a Vessel that will carry from one thousand to fifteen
hundred barrels of naval dores. Apply as above.f
' ' TO BE LET,
AVERY airy well finifhed commodious House, near
South-Bay, with a coach-house, fables, and every other
building suitable for a genteel family; also, to be let, the
Eastern North Gallery front PEW, No. 84, in St. Michael's
Church. Enquire at No. 93, King-street. *c.
WANTED TO RENT,
A Small convenient HOUSE in any public part of the
town, Enquire at No. 46 on the Bay.±
LEFT at my House, which was discovered by my negro
wench, a SILVER WATCH. The owner may have it
again, on paying for this advertisement, and a small gratuity
to the wench for her honesty. Apply to the Printers.
t PETER DUMONT.
To be dilpofed of at Private Sale.
A SMALL TRACT of LAND on the upper end of
John's-Island, containing 250 acres. Enquire of the
Printers.
RUN away from the subscriber, about a month ago, a
Negroe fellow named Will by trade a Sadler, is well known
in and about town, and is very artful, he is about five feet fix in
ches high, had on when he went away an ofnabrigs shirt, a pair of
light blue cloth bretches, and a split shirt, and carried with him an
old fcarlot cloth coat faced with green; he has been lately seen
over at Haddril's Point, where I fufped he is harboured. About the
fame time rah away another negroe fellow named Cyrus, formerly
the property of Mr. John Walters Gibbs; he is about five feet four
inches high, is remarkably thick-set and very artful, by trade a
fhoewaker, had on when he went away a sailor's blue jacket, ofna
burg's shirt and breeches. Whoever will deliver them to me, or
secure them in the Sugar-House, shall receive IWO GUINEAS for
each, and all persons are hereby forwarned from hiring, entertaining
or carrying off either of them, on pain of being prosecuted to the ut
most rigour of the law, by JANE CALLAGHAN,
Cbarlefloiun, Auyuft 24^, 1781. *b. No. 167, King-Preet.
T O BE SOL E,
A HOUSE and LOT No. 21, King-street, with a shop ad-
I joining No. 20. For particulars enquire, at said house,
of HENRY BLANKINGHORN.
ALL persons indebted to the late co-partnership of Green
wood & Walker, either by bond, note or book-debt,
are earnestly requested to fettle the fame as soon as possible.
X JOHNWALKER.
MASTERS of vessels, and inhabitants of the town, may
be supplied with BEER, at a reasonable price, at the
Brewery of Charleftown. tyem. .
Wanted to Rent,
A SMALL HOUSE, or TWO ROOMS unfurnished, if
" on the second floor the more agreeable, with proper ac
commodations for a small family. Enquire of the Printers. J
TOBELET, '
THE convenient and well situated STORE, No. 108, Broad
ftreet. Apply to $ JOIIN & ADAM TUNNO
^WO or three ROOMS unfurnifned, in a genteel house
4 near the Bay, is wanted by a Single gentleman ; he must
have a ftore-rcom, and the use of the kitchen. The rent will
be paid monthly if required. Enquire of the Printers.f
IRISH Linen, 3-4ths 7-Bths and
yard wide
Irilh Sheeting
Russia ditto
Ditto Raven's Duck
Callico and Chintz
Silifias
Printed Linen Handkerchiefs
India and Corded Dimity
ieannets. Cambrick
/lens falhipnable Hats
O rFh Feathers
t 1 GHT H 0 RS E.
ALL active YOUNG MEN, fit for Light Horsemen, and
willing to serve his Majesl y King GEORGE, for the
space of Two Years, or duringthe present Rebellion, havei
now a fair and honourable Opportunity of revenging them
ftlves on the Authors of the many Cruelties and horrid Mur-1
ders committed on their Relations, Friends, and Fellow Sub-i
jeds ; of teftifying their Loyalty to the best of Kings, and 1
man fefting their Abhorrence to this unnatural and unpro-i
voked Rebellion; by applying to Lieutenant-Colonel GEORGE
Campbell, commanding '/ be King's own American Regiment,
now quartered in this Town, who lias power to raise a Body
of Light Horse, to be attached to, and serve condandy with
the said Regiment. Each Loyal and smart young Recruit shall
receive FIVE GUINEAS Bounty, and a CROWN'to drink
his Majesty's Health, be provided with free Quarters, a good
Horse, Pay, Cloathing, Arms, Accoutrements, and every
Other Requisite fit for a Light Dragoon, such as a Cup and
Helmet, a Brace o' good Pistols before him, a keen edged
Sword by his Side, and good Boots and Spurs. Thus equip
ped as a Gentleman Dragoon, he must carry sure and certain
Victory, acquire Honour to himfelf, and render Service to|
his Sovereign and injured Country.
Savannah, <th June, 1781.
GOD SAFE THE KING.
N. B. Any person who brings a Recruit shall receivea re
ward of Half a Guitiea. Such ferviccable, active, able, and
,oung Dragoon Horses as are to ,be foid, will be purebred,
and a generous Price given, by applying at the Colonel's
Quarters, the yellow House near the Weft Gate.
GEORGE CAMPBELL,
Lieutenant-Colonel, and CommmAi ig.
A Fine new SAILING BOAT, with good fails, fit either
for a market or fifhing boat. Any person wanting t° t
purchase her, may apply to George Buckl ' on tne Bay,
next door to Mr. Clarke, Cutler.J
W IL LIAM M'vv H A N N,
Has removed from next to Robert Lindfafs on the Bay, to j%
M'Sclis House in Tradd-dreet, opposite to Bedon's-AKey.
Where he has opened,
A neat A ffortraent of GOODS,
Suitable for the Senfon,
Whi;b be mill fell by Wholesale or Retail, on the most reafonabh
Terms, for Cafb, Government Bills or Produce,
EXCELLENT Port Wine at 245. per dozen,
Strong Beer at i6s.per dozen, and
An Assortment of Medicines,
Scythes for cutting Grass.
In the Ship Restoration, from LONDON,
And to be Sold, by
JAMES BARRON,
At No. 39, on the Bay,
An Assortment of GOODS,
CONSISTING OF
Imported it tile ^jp^ oration, Catt. Crombtf. f r o», 7{l
By WALKER & MAITLAND,
And to be Sold reasonably,
At their Store, No. 92, Broad-Street;
An Assokrtment of
European and Eaft-lndia Goods
Fit for the present and approaching Seafen, viz.'
WHITE Plains
Duffil and Rose Blankets
Flannels, Serges, Liufees
Broad-Cloths
Narrow ditto
Shalloons, Callimancoes, Tam
mies, Camblets
Slops
Matraffes
Silk, cotton, thread, worsted and
yarn Stockings
Silk and worked Breeches Pat
terns of different sizes
Mens, Womens and Childrens
Shoes
Stove dryed Feathers
Sadlery, Cutlery
Pewter and Tin Ware
China, Glass and Queen's Ware
Gilt and plain red Trunks
Portmantau hair ditto
Writing Paper
Bibles, Te&ments and Spelling
Books
Quills, Wax, Wafers
B^arking Types
Marble and parchment covered
Books
Painted Floor Cloths
Carpets, Brooms and BruCnes of
all kinds
Very neat Safes
Nails, Brads, Tacks
Locks, Hinges, Broad Hoes
Felling Axes, Hatchets
Coopers, Carpenters and Shoe
makers Tools
Shoe Thread Spinnel
Steel Corn Mills, Coffee ditto
Socket Spades
Cross-cut and Hand Saws, Files,
&c.
Smoothing Irons, Frying Pans
Iron Pots, Tea Kettles
Curry Combs, Hair Sieves
Briar Scythes, with furniture, &c.
Bailaft Shovels
Engliih Steel in faggots
Quern Stones
Rubb and Ragg Stones
Rice and Rice Flour Sieves, and
Raying Sieves
Fish Hooks
Fashionable Buttons and Buckles
Oil and Paints
I 1 Camblets
I Luteftrings
Ready made Shirts
Silk Gauze
Pickles
Porter in Calks
Mens Silk and Thrcead Hose
Umbrellas
Saddles and Furniture for do.
Canteens for Officers
Refined Sugar, &c. &c,
Roll and Sulphur Brhnft o n°
Perfumery and some Medife
A Variety of Silks, with
mings for the fame
Crapes and Fringe for ditto
Ribbands of all kinds
Cambricks, Printed Meflfas
Callicces, Cotton and Linen,
Irifb Linens
Gurlix, Dowlas
Ruffia,Drabs and Raven's
Brown Hollands
Furniture and other Checks
Cotton H hands
Dimities, Jeans, Bed Bunts
Counterpanes
I broadband Tapes of all forts
Sik Twit and Buttons
I Pins and Needles
Skeleton and Cap Wire
Combs, Fans
Umbrellas
Mens, Womens, Maids and City
Gloves
Ostrich Feathers and Gum,!^
ers
I Boys and Girls Straw Hats, font
I of them full trimmed
Ladies Chip Hats
I Childrens black Sattin Hats
Callimantoc, Persian and Ufa.
fcilles Petticoats fringed and
plain
Pavilion, Catgut, Cypress, Spot,
ted and Sprigged Gauze'
Patent Net and Crape
Trimming Gauze
Persians, Modes, Sarfnets, Bom.
bazir.es, Princess Stuff
Single and double refined Leaf
Sugar
Porter and Cyder in bottles
Cheese
Mutton Hams
Muflard
Starch and Hair Powder
Black Pepper
Raisins, Almonds
Fig and Powder Blue
With a Variety of other Articles
too numerous to mention in an
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