The royal gazette — [Charleston] S.C., 1781-03-24 00:00:00, page 4

MR. Pulteney rose with a petition in his hands from the inhabi
tants of Bengal, fating forth the disadvantages which had ari
sen from an Ad of the 13th of his present Majesty, receding the ad
miniftfation of justice at Bengal, Bahar, and Oriffa, pointing out seve
ral objections, particularly that of the Judges in Chancery being the
fame persons who presided at other Courts, so that it made it of no a
vail to appeal; and concluded with praying for such relief.as to that
Hon. House might seem meet. He said the petition he had was not
the original one, but that two copies had been received by the agents
here, who were ready to attest it at the bar. , He did not mead to
trouble the House at present with any opinion of his own on the fub
jeft, nor did he suppose that a matter of that kind could be taken in
to consideration till after the holidays, when he hoped a Committee
would be appointed for that purpose, and should only now move that
the said petition be received and laid on the table. , ; :
Two or three Members rose to object to the petition, but each.of
them entering into the merits thereof, they were informed by the
Speaker that this was not the proper time, they must reserve that till
it came under consideration. ..
All the East-India papers of correspondence, from the year 1774 to
1779, were moved for, but Lord North said it would take an Im,
menlity of time to prepare them; not only so, but be believed they
had on a former occasion had a variety of said papers for infpe&ioM, .it
would therefore be best to examine those papers, and move for any
others not already before them; and on that account hoped the ques
tion would be withdrawn. It was accordingly withdrawn. _
The House being formed into a Committee of Supply for the ordi
naries and extraordinaries of the Navy for the year 1781, Mr. Ord in
the chair, ,
Lord Lijburne gave a fliort account of the state of the Navy, and
the neceflity of its being kept on a formidable footing; our fleets^
were necessarily employed in very remote parts, and consequently
required a larger sum to support them than if they were nearer
home : he allo dated the funis expended in building ships in the dock
yards and merchants yards, and haewife tnat of keeping the yards in
proper condition; and concluded with moving, that a sum, some
what more than was granted laR year, might be granted for the year
cnfuing.
Hon. t ToTvfotd objected to the motion, on the ground that he
thought part of the money was misapplied. He wanted to know why
there were so many officers on half-pay, at a time when it might be
supposed they were wanted. We have now, said he, sixty-one Ad
mirals, and not one half of them in service. Many brave men we
now have (some of whole names he mentioned) not inferior, he
would be bound to fay, whose hearts glowed to be in adual service,
but Were not thought of by the Mmiftry. As to the Rrength of the
navy, so much boasted of, he believed, it might be true ; but it was
not properly conducted : we have at this time a fleet which cannot
venture further, left they should meet a Superior one of the enemy,
whilst another lies quietly at Plymouth ; this our boasted strength,
therefore, amounts to nothing. Post-Captains, and Masters and
Commanders ericreafe amazingly; he wished to know the necessity
of doing it. For these reasons he thought the Navy, which ought to
be our chief care, as on that the honour and glory of this country
most depended, was mbit fhamefully negfe&ed.
Lord Lifturne replied, that in regard to the Admirals, some were
worn out in the service, and others, from some motive or other, he
knew not what, refufed to go upon any service. One gentleman
in particular with whom he had an intimacy (Adm. Barrington) had
declined taking the command of a feet, as he had modestly said he
did not think himfelf capable of so arduous a talk.. 4
Mr. Gafcoyne endeavoured to account for the seeming great num
ber of officers on half-pay, by faying, that many of them were em
ployed in the recruiting service : and as to the fleet in the chops of the
Channelling away, he believed the ships were furnifhed with such
hble commanders, that they would not fly from the enemy if they
had an opportunity of meeting with them, even though they might
have a superior force. . , „
Mr. Tounfoend begged the Hon. Gentleman would hot put words
into his mouth; he neither said nor believed they would full away ;
he meant not to insinuate the least flight on either the Commanders
or Officers in that fleet; that muR fall on the Hon. Gentleman; all
he meant was, that, by some fatal negled at home, they had hot
been provided with a Sufficient force to attack the enemy. $ ,
Lord North palliated the measure of making Post-Captains, and
Masters, and Commanders. He said, that though the lift of new
made ones appeared so very large in the opinion of the Hon. Gentle
man over the way, he could assure him that not one half of them
were made here ; the rest were made by Commanders abroad, ac
cording as deaths might happen, and Occasionally on these who might
particularly signalize thamfelves. He read a lift of all those lately
appointed, both here and abroad, mentioning the reasons why they
had been promoted, and recapitulating the services they had done to
entitle them to such promotion.
Mr. ^ did not intend to violently oppose the motion, as the Na
vy must be properly supported, otherwise the nation would soon be
in (if poffible)aworfe fixation than it is : but he thought that depart
ment of the Rate was disgraced in the highest degree. If he did a
gree to the motion, it should be under a protest, that certain en
quiries should be pade to know how and by whose means such dis
grace had been brought. He now adverted to a late Court Martial,
and the appointment of Governour to Greenwick Hospital. [Sir
Hu'ri Pallifer had fat behind the Chair the preceding part of the
day° but now came upon the Treasury Bench, and fat next to Lord
North.] Mr. Fox was now called to order by
Lord Nugent, who begged, for the honour and dignity of the House,
that every matter which led to angry difeuflion, and personal abuse,
might be avoided! He said, it was gentlemen's fuffering their goo^
sense, and sober judgn^nt, to be loft in the rage of party altercation,
during the last Parliament, which had disgraced that House in the
eyes of all the world. Did gentlemen confider, that every thing said
within those walls was sent abroad, was tranfiated, and vas read by
every man, foreigner as well as native, Who could get at a newspaper.
From the personal abuse thrown out in the last Parliament, the inha
bitants of other countrieswere led no longer to regard the members of
that House, as the judicious and grave Teprefentatives of a great, 3
mighty, and a free people ; they thought the British Parliament had
iofE its honour and dignity, and that its ordinances and resolves were
no longer the result of that deliberation and coolness, which are the
cdcntial charaderißieks of national wisdom and true greatness. He
begged to God, therefore, that gentlemen would, from a sense of the
honour and dignity of Parliament, not convert that House into a
Poliih Diet, and make the necessary qualifications of an orator within
those wull, hot the beR and most intimate acquaintance with the
works of Cicero and Demoßtenes, but with the greatest proficiency
and the most perfe& skill acquired in the school of Mr. Angelo, and
other makers of defence. If matters went on thus, the whole scheme
of political education would be turned topfy-turvy, and that member
only would in future be qualified th be Firß Lord of the Treasury,
who was the bed fencing matter in the kingdom.
Sir Robert Stalled Lord Nugent to order. He infilled upon it,
that his honourable friend had not been disorderly in what he had
said, and that the noble Lord was not warranted in interrupting him.
It was perfectly fair, perfedly in order (as his honourable friend had
done) when a question refpe&ing the tiavy was before the Commit
tee, to go into a difeuffion of the rewards wd pupifnments bellowed
on naval officers. It was not merely hulks of ships .and guns that
made the jiavy of England, it was the spirit and honour of the offi
cers and the men ; and when they were damped, the navy was fare
to be ruined. .
Lord Nugent rose again and said, the only reason of his interrupt
ing the Hon. Gentleman had been from an innate and most fi'ncere
wilh to preserve that general peace, good humour and temper within
those walls, which alone could give dignity to debate, and assist the
publick business, in the eyes of Europe, by shewing, that the British
Parliament was unanimously inclined to proceed in the war, and to
forward its operations, however debates might arise aS to the manner
of doing this. He pro&Red he had a very great refpe& for the Hon.
Gentleman and for his extraordinary talents, but it was from a painful
remembrance of what had already past, laYicl.a fear of similar conse
quences which might end more fatally, that he had interrupted him
where he had. Let gentlemen confider, how important it was to
preserve the honour and dignity of the House from such injury as it
must ever receive, when matters were carried to the length that they'
Pari. lAMENTARY Proceedings.
House ts Commons, Monday, December 4.
Lord North, said, he was for his part ready and willing to abide
by any enquiry, let the event turn as it might. If there/was any
blame in appointing the Honourable Gentleman near him to the
government .of Greenwich Hospital, it was not Lord Sandwich
alone that advised it r others were consulted, and he ampngß
them; and inßead of thinking he had done amiss in joining in
such advice, his confeiehce told him he Was right when he did it,
and at that time he thought the only wrong committed was, that
it had not been done footer, What the Honourable Gentleman
meant by recorded treachery, he was utterly at a loss to guefe; as
to his faying that the gentleman who has been appointed to the
lucrative place (as he calls it) of Governour of Greenwich Hospital,
was hardly acquitted, he thought he had been more than acquitted ;
for the verdict of the court-martial fays, his conduct has been ex
emplary and meritorious; if then he is allowed to.have a&ed in an
exemplary and meritorious manner (I think, said his Fordfhip. those
are the words, when Sir Hugh Pallifer added highly); if he has
a&ed in a highly exemplary and meritorious manner, surely he was
deserving of some honour; nay, it had been observed in the last
Parliament by an Honourable Gentleman of very great abilities,
and who was ready at all times to forward the cause of humanity,
(Mr. Burke) at the time of a second trial being on the carpet; let
him not be tried, his present situation is deplorable enough, and
whether acquitted or condemned, it would be impoliible to retrieve
the character he once had; but as he has before this rendered essential
service to his country, let him retire in peace, and be amply rewarded
by Government for his former condudl. This was the language
at that time, that he should be amply rewarded; but now he has
obtained a small addition to his private fortune, for it is no more
than 7001. or Sool, per annum, it is represented as the most honour
able and lucrative that could be bellowed; and this is given as a
reason why the navy is disgraced, and why gentlemen in the pro
feffion will not come forward in the defence of their country: that,
however, is not the case, because some of them had come to that
resolution before the event happened : however, all things considered,
he thought it was highly right and proper it should be done, and
he would chearfully abide by the consequences.
Sir Hugh Pallifer next rose. He thanked the noble Lord for
having anticipated him in some matters he intended to offer; and
then made an apology to the House for not being used to speak in
so large an assembly, therefore begged leave to read what he meant
to offer td their consideration.
. He began to state the uncandid manner in which he had been
used by Admiral Keppel's friends, at a time he could not have an
opportunity to juftify himfelf; and then proceeded to make some
obferkations on the trial of Admiral Keppel: he said the sentence
of the court-martial was extra-judicial; their duty only was to
declare the accused guilty or not guilty, but they had thought proper
to fay that the charge was malicious and ill-founded. At the cou
clufion of the trial he was refufed by the court and by the Admiral
to make a reply, and give his reasons why he did bring the charge,
which all court-martials previous to this had constantly allowed to
the accuser; had he been permitted to do this, which he inlifted he
had a right to do, he was .persuaded the exceptionable words would
not have been inserted. He entered into a very extensive field (for
he was upon his legs upwards of an hour) in juftification of his own
condud l on that occasion, and a condemnation of that of Admiral
Keppel and his friends; he was sorry to trouble the committee with
a tedious detail of the manner he was treated by his opponents on
that occasion, bat was in some measure necessitated thereto from
his being refufed exercising that right he was entitled to at Ports
mouth, and the hints lately thrown out in that House by the friends
of Admiral Keppel. Though his narrative was a very long one,
yet much more might be urged in his defence, and which he would
readily enter fully into if Admiral Keppel or his friends desired it,
for he eßeemed himfelf the most injured man in the nation. He
wished not to Rifle any part of his conduct, and was ready to contrast
it with that of the Admiral at any time. The Admiral had been
indulged more than any other man by having his trial on shore, and
every other candid treatment he could expect
Admiral Keppel rose and made a fliort reply: he said the indul
gence the House had shewn him on that occasion he should ever
remember with gratitude, it demanded his most sincere acknow
ledgements; for if they had denied it, he could not have survived
the trial: as to what had fell from the Governour of Greenwich
Hospital (for he should never call him by any other name) he thought
it did not deserve a serious reply. Admiral Keppel will Rand on
his own ground;.if he had any thing to blame himfelf for in pub
lick life, it was because he did not sooner arraign the conduct of the
Governour of Greenwich Hefpitah
Mr. Smith took notice of what had fallen from the noble Lord in
the blue ribbon, concerning the words exemplary and meritorious,
he believed if the verdict was referred to, it would be found that
in some infances immediately preceded them, which must imply that
in other instances there was at least a doubt of proper behaviour,
so that it was not more that an acquital, but barely an acquital.
Mr. Fox took notice of what Lord North said in regard to gentle
men having refufed to serve previous to the appointment to Green
wich hospital. He did not rest his whole argument on that point,
but the general dislike they had to the present condu&ors of national
affairs, as they thought themselves unfafe under such men. And as
to the appointment spoke of, which the noble Lord said was not
worth more than 7001. a year, that was not the object; if it was on
ly 701. it would weigh the fame with him ; but the dignity and ho
nour conferred ,on one who ought to have retired to his meditations.
That gentleman had blamed him for speaking in his absence; he never
said any thing when not present that he would not fay before his face;
by why was he absent? He had been ele&ed Member of Parliament,
and if he chose to accept of the Chiltern Hundreds, because he
would not hear what was said, it was his own fault, not the fault
of those who said it.
The question for granting the ordinaries and extraordinaries of
the navy being called for, it was carried without a division.
Lord Howe, Lord Pigot, General Smith, Sir George Yonge and
Mr. Pulteney, spoke id the debate.
The House adjourned to to-morrow.
[To BE CONTINUED.]
had been carried to last year; exclufivc of the !efs iirtportant, though
very serious matter, the chance the House ran of having two of its
members lose their lives. It was from these feelings that he had
spoken before, and he hoped to God what he had said would meet
with due attention.
Mr. Fox resumed his fpeech;-he said he would hot wilfully deviate
from order; die was as strenuous as any member of that House,
that the utmoß decorum should be pteferved; but he presumed,
when speaking of the navy, he had a right to refer to publick tranf
adtions relative to the navy; he had not, nor would he, God forbid
he should, cast any personal reflections on private characters; but
when any thing appeared on. record, he contended he had an un
doubted right to refer to it. He said again, the navy was disgraced
by conferring honour and emoluments on a man who had brought
malicious and ill-founded charges against a superior officer, which
officer was honourably acquitted, while.his accuser, when brought
to trial, could hardly be said to be acquitted, as the sentence of the
court-martial conveyed a kind of hint of their not approving of some
part of his conduct: yet this man is afterwards caressed and loaded
with dignity and honour. Is it then to be wondered at that men
tenacious of.their honour should refufe to serve while that depart
ment is filled as it at;piefeht is, and when there is such an inflance
of recorded treachery? It had been said that a certain Admiral had
modestly declined going out as firft in command; he was well assured
that gentleman's abilities' were inferior to none for such command;
but could it be supposed that he, or any one who wished to. reap
laurels to themselves and credit to their country, could confeientioafly
accept such an offer, if he differed in opinion with those in power?
No: because if the second in command had any private end in
view, he might thwart him in his endeavours to gain emoluments
to himfelf and his country, and by malicious insinuations deprive
him of that honour he already possesses., This being the present
miserable Rate of that department, he fliould certainly, as ne had
before said, trouble the House after the holidaysfo take into,con
fideration the impeachment of the First Lord of the Admiralty.
ALL persons indebted to the copartnership of Fotheringham &
M'Nect, or the estate of Alexander Fotheringham, are
requeued to pay their refpedlive debts immediately, otherwise they
will be sued without diftin&ion.
ISABELI.A FOTHERINGHAM, Executrix.
1 ALEXANDER WRIGHT, Executor.
HNS JUST IMPORTED,
A Great variety of elegant JEWELLERY; tortoise-shell
and japanned goods; gilt, inlaid, plated and other buckles;
plated spurs, a variety of coat and breast buttons, some high finished
heel hilts for dress swords, a few pair of very genteel sconces and
small looking glasses, gilt and Reel trinkets, watch chains, brown
and white thread hose, white, coloured and ofnaburg threads; ivory
combs, setts of fine Novels, tongs and pokers; pins, Whitechapel
needles, silver and pinchbeck thimbles, with various other articles,
wich he will fell on the very lowed: terms, wholcfale or retail, for
cafn or government bills.f
JOHN CALLUM, Shoemaker,'
HAVING removed from No. 3, Chalmers's Alley, to his
house No. 5, in the fame alley, takes this opportunity of ac
quainting his friends, that he Rill continues the business in all its
branches, and hopes for the continuance of the favours of those
Ladies and Gentlemen whom he has formerly served. He will be
much obliged to those who are anywise indebted to the co-partner
ship of Keith & Callum, to call and pay him, as he is obliged to
fettle the dime as early as possible. *c.
r r H E fubferiber, as surviving Executor of the estate of
I Miles Brewton, Esq; deceased, requests the favour of all
persons indebted to that estate, to difeharge their debts forthwith,
in order to enable him to make remittances to the creditors thereof
in Great-Britain; and for the more speedily effecting the fame, he
gives notice, that leveral very valuable and improved PLANTA
TIONS on both sides the Savannah river, and near the town of
Savannah, (being part of the lands of said estate) are for sale, for
bills of Exchange, or otherways, as may be agreed on.
f CHARLES PINCKNEY, fen.
Who has several valuable LOTS of LAND, in excellent situations
for trade, in Charleftown, to let out on building leases; also, some
good Negro Tradesmen, to hire out by the month. And further
requests those who are indebted to him on his own private account,
to pay off their debts. Cbarlejlo-wn, March 20th, 1781.
INTENDING to leave the Province and return to England
'in the course of a few months, 'tis requeued that all those
whose accounts are due, will make immediate payment ; for such as
are not fettled, or put into a mode for payment before the 20th
of May, will unavoidably then be left in the hands of an attorney
to recover. , PARKER & CO,
Charlefoum, Maifb 21st, 1781.
H TO BE HIRE D,
TWO exceeding good HOUSE-CARPENTERS as any in
the province. Enquire of the Printers. ]:
A LL persons indebted to the late James Akin, Esq; of St.
Thomas's Parish, are desired to difeharge their refpe&ive
bonds, notes and accounts immediately ; and those who have any just
demands against the eßate, will please render proper vouchers thereof
to Mr. William Fair, in Charleftowh.
ANN AKIN, Administratrix, No. 107, Meeting-street.
N. B. Those who borrowed books of the deceased, in his life-time,
arerequefted toreturp them forthw it h. fc.
A YOUNG MAN who can be well recommended for sobriety
and honesty, would be glad of employment in a store. En
quire of the Printers. *e
And may be Entered upon immediately,
MY PLANTATION in St. Andrew's Parish, containing 500
acres of land ; also two LOTS of LAND in Jackfonborough.
Apply to Thomas Farr, Esq; at Ashley-River, or the fubferiber at
Willtown. f R. P. STOBO.
SOLOMUN SMIT H,
Informs bis Friends and the Publick,
THAT he is returned to this Province, and carries on the UP
HOLSTERER's BUSINESS in all its branches. He now
has for sale, at his house in Tradd-ftreet, No. 8, a large and
elegant assortment of Furniture, confiding of Camp Beds and Bed-
Reads, with Springs and Cases; Looking Glasses, inlaid Tea Tables
and Trays, with a great variety of other articles. He will be much
obliged to his former friends for a continuance of their custom, as
well as to all those who may please to employ him.
N. B. A quantity of NEW CORKS for fale.f
nro BE SOLD, or Let on Lease for five Years, a LOT of LAND
on the Bay, a little to the north of the Exchange, and two lots
from No. 25, containing 24 and a half feet front, and 142 feet deep;
it has on it a large two-story brick kitchen, wash-house and store,
with a fine cellar underneath, the brick foundation of a house, and
the cellar paved. Another LOT in Union-street, on the back of
the other, containing 24 and a half feet front, and 82 feet 10 inches
deep. There are on iha a good chair-house and liable, which, with
the addition of a chimney, would make a good store and kitchen;,
there is also the brick foundation of a former house. Apply to
t THOMAS BUCKLE, No. Bay.
Charlfran, February 5, 1781.
ALL persons indebted to Andrew Lord, and Andrew and
George Lord, are desired to pay the interest and part of the
principal of their bonds for negroes fold from the year 1771 to 1775,
in the course of this crop.
N. B. Their counting-house is kept at Andrew Lord's house on
the Green. t
To be Let for One Tear,
THAT valuable PLANTATION on Wampee, Savannah, for
merly belonging to Capt. John Cattell, deceased. Any
person inclinable to rent the fame, must apply to
CATHARINE CATTELL, fen.
+ CATHARINE CATTELL, jun. or to
ISAAC M'PHERSON.
A few vacant LOTS on Greenwood's Wharf,
To be LET on building Leases.
Enquire at No. 44, on the Bay. f
ALL persons indebted to the estate of Thomas-Loughton Smith,
Esq; deceased, are desired to fettle their refpe&ive obligations,
on or before the firft day of May next. Those whom it may not suit to
pay the whole, have notice that the interest to that period is required,
together with a renewal of their bonds. THOMAS SMITH,
March i, 1781. t ALEXANDER INGLIS.
ALEXANDER INGLIS requests those indebted to him to fettle
to his fatisfadion on or before the firft day of May next; and he
hereby gives notice to those who paid him in depreciated currency, to
provide for the full and equitable difeharge of his demands, as he will
otherwise do himfelf justice in the speediest method in his power.
He also desires those indebted to the eßates of George Inglis, and
David Deas, Efqrs. and Mrs. Helen Rattray, or to Mrs. Janet Cumming,
to pay their refpe&ive debts, or to renew their obligations.f
AN OVERSEER who underßands the management of a river
fwamp plantation, and can bring proper recommendations for
his sobriety, industry and honesty, will meet with encouragement, by
applying to ALEXANDER INGLIS.
N. B. A single man will be preferred. f
ABSENTED himfelt during the Christ
mas holidays, a square set Negro Fel-
A low named Prince, talks good English,
L&^^^hasa smooth tongue, is a great rogue, fond
,of rum, and can tell a very plaulible story.
j^'3 I fufpe& he is harboured on board some vessel,
where he can be very ufeful as a cook, in
which capacity he failed feyeral voyages on
^^^^^^^board 4 Guinea vessel; he loft his toes on
hi s f eet by t h e froft, and cannot walk
without ffiocs. SIX DOLLARS reward will be givpu to whoever
delivers him#o the keeper of the Sugar-house, or to the fubferiber,
Who will prosecute any nerfon that may be found harbouring the
Did Rave. JOHN WELLS, jun.
NICHOLAS SMITH,
No. 29, on the Bay, near the Exchange,