The Freeman's journal, or, New-Hampshire gazette — Portsmouth, N.H., 1778-03-03 00:00:00, page 1

LONDON,
HOUSE of COMMONS, Friday Nov. 21.
THIS day at two o'clock, the Speaker took
the chair, when a motion was made for
the second reading of the loyal address of the
House to his Majeliy,upon which a very long
and Spirited debate ensued.
Lord Nugent reverted to the con fetjuences
of the amendment in a very full and compre
hensive manner. He observed, that nothing
but submission on the part of America could
teftore to Britain the benefit arising from that
country,and no fubmiflion could be gained but
by force. For his part he believ'd the object of
the war was principally to convince their cool
judgments,by the calamities attendant on car
nage, of the blessings arising from peace ; to
convince them by the tyranny and oppressive
meifures of their Congrefs,ot the more leni
ent sway & domination of the mother power ;
and was himfelf convinced that an uniform
perseverance in coerfae measures would prove
adequate to the intention, and fulfil the desire
of administration.
Gen. Conway with great warmth,lamented
the fatal determination of the minister,& the
horrid effe&s arising from his endeavours to
conciliate the affections of erithufiafts in the
cause of liberty,by pouring on their heads the
miseries of war, and the horror of b'loodfhed.
He declared, for his part,though he was a fol
dier,and daughter was his trade,he delighted
not in the effiifion of human blood,and ffirunk
with horror from the thought of shedding his
"brother's blood— He was fenhble, from his
knowledge of the heart of man,thatit Was irn
poffible to fubje&, much less to conciliate the
mind, by racking the body. The means we
are taken to fill up,actually widen the breach;
and it must, in the nature of things, so long
as a single spark of manly ardour and noble
freedom existed in the bosom of our brethren.
He reverted to the effe&s that it had already
produced. Were the Americans in the lealt
degree conciliated ?—No. Were they even
fubjeded ? No. We have employed 50,000
men, spent 20,000,000 of money, and in two
years we have gainedNew-Yorklfland,Staten
Island, and had preserved Canada ; all which,
in his ideas, amounted to nothing. But he
begged, in the most pathetic manner, that
they would reflect on the present situation of
our troops. Geri. Howe has given us no pre
cise intelligence of having effected any one
thing ; and Gen. Burgoyne was in a situation
more truly lamentable than any general per
hapsthat ever existed. He spoke as a soldier,
he said; and from the knowledge he had of
military matters,he was sincerely led to fear,
that he neither could go backwards nor for
wards. This was the situation of our troops —-
a situation preceding from the fatal measure
of a dominating ministry— a ministry that
had exercised more tyranny over America,
than ever the Duke of Alva, that bane of li
berty, had exercised over the Netherlands.
He begged theHoufe to reflect on the Rate of
foreign affairs---He dreaded there was more
to fear from France and Spain, than the nati
on was awareof. HisMajefty from the throne,
and acknowledged, that he thought an aug
mentation of the navy necessary to the fecu-
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rity of the kingdom. Two years ago, a de
crease of it was deemed proper. The impli
cation was plain,and the conclusion easy. He
declared, that the proceeding day he did not
hear one argument adduced by the noble gen
tlemen on the other fide in the lealt convinc
ing. It was now become a dispute of the feel
ings,& not of the judgment—the passions on
ly were addreffed,and not the under Handing.
The Attorney General went into a long de
fence of the measure of employing Indians.
He obferved,that it was impossible to preserve
them in a Rate of neutrality,and of the alter
native of having 'em either for friends or foes,
it was easy to determine which to choofe.True,
he said, their mode of fighting was loaded
with horror ; but war,and<dpecially ipteftine
war, was ever so. They were taxed, he said,
with many crimes :he would not attempt to
juftify them, but observe that the rebels a
gainst whoni they fight, are as mean, cruel,
and treacherous as they are ; witness the con
duft of the wretches, who aftet taking the
oath of allegiance to his Majesty turned their
arms against his troops, and endeavoured to
butcher them by furprize. ,
Sir George Savile answered Mr. Thurloe.
Was it, he said, beconie logical,that the cri
minality ofone man Should exculpate another.
We had been reduced to the miserable necessi
ty of ehiploying savages to work out our pur
poses of cruelty, and we attempted to excuse
it by one single ad of guilt in our enemy.
He begged the House to confider that even
without the amendment proposed, the address
would be most improper, since in effe&, by it
the House pledged themselves to support the
ministry in the ccerfive measures, without li
mitation or attention to consequence.
Col. Barre Shewed the neceftity of fending
ou tfull powers to the Commissioners, of pre
senting the olive branch to the Americans,be
forethey became utterlyreconcileable toGreat
Britain : he complained that his letters were
opened by the orders of the Mini Hers,& that
no officers from America dared to speak to
him,as he was looked upon as a proscribed
person.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Tuesday,Dec. 2.,
As soon as his Grace the Duke of Richmond
had given in his several motions (the heads
of which were given in our paper of yefler
day) all which were ordered,
Lord Chatham rose, by observing, "It gave
him great fatisfa&ionto find, that it was the
unanimous sense of their Lordships, to agree
with the motions proposed by his noble friend
the Duke ; that for his part he highly approv
ed of them, and had only a wish to add, that
in his Grace's motion, relative to the Hate ofl
the army, tbefe had been inserted likewise,
" returns of the present troops Rationed in
the two garrisons of Port Mahon and Gibral
ter." These places, his Lord ship observed,
were two of the most important garrisons inl
the possession of the crown ; but not with
Handing that, he could aver, from his own]
positive knowledge, that there were not menl
enough in either (particularly Gibralter)pro-l
perly co relieve each other for one day, in cafq
of an attack ; and, continues his Lordfhip]
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ordered The dips fitting this for sea " port, at are now
they they learnt the use their have of soon to are arms at
this and marine forces place, making also in is at as our
Recruits be wish the hastened utmost expedition. to are
barracks, the king daily brought all dim from of to parts our
their exercise. they An augmentation where trained to are
Extraß Letter Chatham, Dec, of from 5. a
biund vefils embank board to on
lo.The conference America." Dec.
French & the L.Weymouth between
laid lafl, Ambaflador Monday is to on
determination be consequence of in a
employ the cabinet in 20,000 to
Ruffian the ensuing for campaign.
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