The royal gazette — [Charleston] S.C., 1781-03-07 00:00:00, page 4

Parliamentary Proceedings.
House o,Comm<)xs, Friday, November 24.
THE Secretary at War rose to open the army bud
get- he began by Rating the number of British troops at
the close 'of the last year, at ^3,951 ; and the expence for fop
porting them he Rated to have been 2,700,674 b He intended
this year to move for a reduction in our numbers, by which a
conliderable saving would arise to the publick. He did not
mean that the reduction should fall upon the additional compa
nies because they were in fad nurseries, from which our re
giments were supplied with good recruits. But lie intended to
reduce the eftablilhments of the regiments ; and that all com
panies which formerly used to consist of 100 men, but which
had in reality no more than 85, should be leduced to the latter
number; and that those companies, whose establishments were
at 70 men, but without being able to muster more than 56,
ihould in future consist of no more than 56 men.
The troops, prisoners under the convention of Saratoga, he
did not mean to include in this reduction. Every possible ef
fort had been made to procure their liberty, but to no pur
pose- and he believed the Congress would never liberate them,
unless perhaps upon the death, or desertion of the men, they
might be induced to exchange the officers as prisoners of war,
but not in consequence of the convention. There were at present
about 796 of those troops together; the rest were in hospitals,
or dispersed over the country, the whole amounting to be
tween 15 and 1600 men. By the intended reduction, he said
we should, this year, have 10,791 men fewer to pay, than last
year The saving upon these would amount to 130,5211. and
the expences of the 'whole of the remaining British troops
would come to 1,46c,390b T ° this number of men and ex
pences were to be added 43,611 militia forces, with expences
of their eloathing ; together with the foreign troops in our pay,
making in the whole British and foreigners 172,000, the expence
of eloathing, and maintaining of which would amount to
'’Th^ by which he flattered himfelf the army might be
recruited (the vagrant bill) had disappointed his expectations;
but it had, ueverthelefs, served the Rublick ; for the marines
had been doubly 'fuccefsful in recruiting, in consequence of
this bill; and the price of substitutes in the militia had fallen
one half: but vety few men had, in consequence of it, enter
ed into the armv. He therefore did not mean to move for a
renewal of the bill. He knew it would be much better to re
cruit old corps, than to raise new ones; but Rill if necessity
should call for any more troops, he would prefer the railing of
new corps, for this reason only, that the men would be the
more speedily raised. , .
He acknowledged that the recruiting service was not as brisk
as might be wished : for we had been already obliged to raise
great numbers of men to replace those whom we had loft by
sickness in the Southern Colonies, and the Weft-Indies. The
climate in those places was the most unwholfome of any of our
settlements in America ; and had carried off great numbers of
our men. But still he trusted, that gentlemen would not con
demn the Southern expeditions, as they had been productive
of so much advantage to this country. The measure of fend
ing troops to the Weft-Indies, was absolutely a measure of
necessity; the French had sent out a vast armament, and Spain
was ready at the time to follow the example : our possessions
were not to be delivered up to them, we had been therefore
obliged to fend a force into that quarter of the world,, to gar
rison and defend our islands. But if we fuffered by sickness,
the loss was not solely 011 our fide ; the enemy had fuffered
more; the loss of the French had been very considerable; but
that of the Spaniards great beyond imagination ; and it was
clearly to this it muR be attributed, that our combined enemies
had not only effected nothing, but had not so much as attempt
ed anything.
He mentioned likewise something of an additional number
of men to be raised bv Colonels Fullartdn and Humberfton.
He concluded by dividing the army into different classes ; and
making each class the fubjed of a motion, he moved separate
ly, that the committee would grant the men, and money fpe
cified in the estimates. , . ~, ,
Here followed a tedious and insipid conversation, which Co
lonel Barre called an undress conversation ; it consisted of
Qieftions on one fide, and answers on the other. Colonel Fullar
ton's corps was not forgot; and the injury done to the army
bv the promotion of young officers, and persons not at all
of the military profeffion, was painted in strong colours by
Mr. T. Townfhend. He said he did not know what the
lofs' of the Spaniards might have been ; but it must be
excessive indeed if it surpassed that of our troops; for he had
been told by a gentleman [Colonel Dundas] that not one of
his men knew what it was to live like a soldier, or take care of
himfelf; and indeed it was pretty clear that the Colonel was
right; for when the regiment reached the Weft-Indies, it was
almbft to a man thrown into the hospital ; so that when one
died, there could scarcely be found four men and a corporal
to carry him to his grave. This was the blessed consequence
of fending young, instead of seasoned troops to the Weft-In
dies. The fhameful neglect of our troops at home called also
for enquiry. Many corps for which money had been voted as
if they confined of oco men, wanted more than half that num
ber; and he himfelf had seen one of those nominally composed
of 900, not able to bring many more than 300 into the field.
The Secretary AT War observed, that there were two
ways by which the Weft-India islands might have been garri
soned with veteran troops: one by detaching some from North
America, which might be replaced by new troops: but then
every Gentleman must fee that while these troops should be
getting ready to embark, the French, who were actually in
the Weft, must have necessarily performed every thing they
wished for, before the troops could possibly arrive from Ame
rica. But then Gentlemen might perhaps fay, that old regi
ments might have been sent from England to the islands: but
Gentlemen should recoiled, that at the time the nation was
threatened with an invasion ; and that confeqnently all the peo
ple of property would have exclaimed againit Ministers, if they
had trusted the defence of the nation to raw regiments and the
militia. It was necessity, and necessity only, that had caused
the embarkation of the new corps. The veterans from Ame
rica might arrive time enough only to be witnesses to the
conquests made upon us by the enemy ; and Great-Britain
might have been undone, if she had sent away her old regi
ments, and had been invaded in their absence.
As to the deficiency of many of the new corps mentioned
by the hon. gentleman, he could speak or judge of them only
from the returns made to his office by the reviewing Generals.
It was well known that the officers received no pay, nor so
much as their commissions, until having been reviewed, their
regiment was certified by the reviewing General to be such as
might be employed in the King's service. And as pay was al
lowed to the privates only from the day of their attestation,
the publick never paid any more men than were actually inlift
ed in their service.
General Burgoyne inveighed also against the appointment
of gentlemen, not of the military profeffion to the command
of regiments—the absurdity of fending raw troops into actual
ferrice—and the indecency as well as absurdity of putting ex
perienced officers under the command of gentlemen, who were
mere novices in the military line. To judge ofa regiment from
the reviewing General's return was, he laid, a very fallacious
way of judging : for the General feeing perhaps 400 men in
the field, is told by the commanding officer, that ico mere
are absent on recruiting parties. The General therefore make
a return of the number he fees, and gives the voucher on the
officer's word, for the existence of 100 more, who have no ex
istence but on paper. ~
Sir William Conyngham wished that the Committee
would not take it for granted, that what the honourable Ge
neral said of reviewing Generals returns relative to new corps,
was applicable to all the corps, or to all the Generals. He could
speak himfelf for the qzd regiment, every man of which, whe
ther present at the muster, or in sick quarters, had been per
sonally examined by General Styles ; that the corps was at the
time of the review perfectly coinpleat; and that in that state
it been embarked at Plymouth, under the convoy of Commo
dore Walfingham ; after his honourable friend who corhmand
ed the corps, had been at infinite trouble and great expence in
raising and disciplining it. -; . < z.
Colonel Barre undertook to prove, that the reduction pro
posed by the Secretary at War, would not ease the country of any
burden. He took a long arithmetical and comparative review
of our expences for the last, and the ensuing years; and ihfift
ed, that notwithstanding the reduction, our expences would
be heavier this year than the last. But the grand mystery that
he wished to have cleared up, was to account for the deficien
cy that appeared by a comparison of the numbers of troops,
voted the year before last, and the return madeof them by the
General. The numbers voted for, the American war were
78000 men. By the returns no more than 34000 were accoun
ted for. So that it remained with ministers to inform the Com
mittee what had become of the other 44000? If they were ef
fectives, why had they not performed more service ? If they
were men on paper only, where was the money that had been
voted for their fupportr.
The Secretary at War said, that exclusive of the num
bers contained in the return alluded to, and which was of the
troops under the command of Sir Henry Clinton only, there
had been that year 17000 men in the Weft-Indies, and 10,000
in Canada, not to mention those in the East-Indies and Africa.
Colonel Barre admitted this account of 27000 men in the
islands and Canada, though he wished they might tell 13000.
To these 27000, he would add one battalion in the East-Indies,
and rate it at 1000 men; and adding 213 men on the coast of
Africa, the whole would amount to 28,213 men; so that af
ter all this, there still remained 15,787 men to be accounted
for.
The Secretary at War said, that the return in question
had been made near two years ago, when he had just gone in
to office; he would enquire into the matter ; and as it related
to the disposition of the army one or two campaigns back, he
should feel no difficulty in giving the House every information
on that head.,
General Smith said a few words, which put an end to the
conversation; when the firing of motions made by the Secre
tary at War, were all agreed to without a division.
[To be continued.]
SHUOLBkED& MOODIE,
At the Corner of Church and Broad Streets,
Have imported in the Vast Fleet from England, by the
Ships Tartar and Calvert,
A general and compleat Assortment, of
European and East-India GOODS,
Which they zuill fell on reasonable Terms for Cash, Government Bills, or
Produce ; viz.
LONDON Duffil and other Rose Blankets, white, blue and green
Negro-Cloth, Matraffes, Ruggs, Bed Quilts, Swanfkin, Flan
nels, Linfey, embossed Serges, fuperfine Broad and Yorkshire Cloths,
fuperfine white & coloured Kerfeymires, Shalloons, Sagathies, Strouds,
Camblets, Durants, Callimanco, Princes Stuff, Bombazeen, Russel,
Duroys, Fustians, Denims, Thicksets, Corduroy, Velvets, Velverets,
India Dimity, Marseilles Quilting, Cotton and Linen Checks and
Handkerchiefs, Cotton Hollands, Furniture Check, Bed Tick, Cot
ton Counterpanes, Russia and Irish Sheeting, Raven's Duck, bleached
Drabs, Dowlas, Brown Holland, Huckaback, Diaper and Damask
Table-Cloths, Long Lawn, India Nankeens, printed Callico, Cotton
and Chintzes, plain and flowered Muslin, Cambrick, Clear? Lawn,
Silk, Cotton, Linen and Barcelona Handkerchiefs, Irish Linens 7-8
and yard wide, Luteftrings, Sattins, plain and figured Tobines and
brocaded Silks, Lyons Florentine, Modes, Persians and Silk Serges,
Ribbons, Haberdashery, plain and spotted Lawn and Mufqueto
Netting, Slops, Negro Cloathing, Military and fine Shirts and Shoes,
Military, Gold and Silver Epaulets and Laces, Regimental Sashes,
Mens and Womens silk, thread, cotton and worsted Hose and Gloves,
Mens fuperfine Castor and Felt Hats, silk, holland and dimity tam
boured Waistcoats, Nails, Rice Sickles, Broad Hoes and Axes,
Socket Spades, Felling Axes, Sad Irons, Hinges assorted, flock,
plate and brass Locks and Latches, Chamber Dogs, Padlocks, Car
penter's and Cooper's Tools, bureau, desk and drawer Furniture,
hand, cross-cut, tenant and whip saws and Files, Glue, Iron-Pots,
Frying Pans and Gridirons, Hardware, Jewellery, silver and plated
Ware, gold, silver and metal Watches, Cutlery, Combs, Sadlery,
Braziery and Tinware assorted, Carolina Mulkets and Fowling Pie
ces, holster and pocket Pistols, Officers Fusees, with Bayonets and
Slings, Shot Belts, Powder Horns, Worms and Screws, Gunpowder
and Shot assorted, Hyfon, Green, Souchong and Bohea Teas of the
best Quality, double and single refined Sugar, table and tea China,
Glass and Earthen Ware assorted, Window Glass of different Sizes,
Sallad Oil, Vinegar and Pickles, Turnery, Confe&ionary and Per
fumeries, Wax and Tallow Candles, Soap, Snuff, Pigtail and Smoak
ing Tobacco, sewing, shop and seine Twine, Sail Cloth, Ofnaburgs
and Cordage.
Fine Claret in Hogsheads and in Cases of two dozen each, ditto
Port and Sherry Wines, in Pipes, Hogsheads, Quartercalks and
Bottles; Porter in Hogsheads, Gin in Cases, French and British
Brandy in Puncheons and Kegs, Cinnamon Water, Cherry and Raf
berry Brandy, split and round Peafe, prime Mess Beef, Hams,
Tongues and Cheese.
They have also for Sale,
A Quantity of Turpentine and Lumber, consisting of one inch
Boards, and two inch Plank and Scantling.
JOHN & ADAM TUNNO,
Have received in the Ships London, Britannia and Brigantine Robert,
from LONDON,
A QUANTITY of GOODS upon Confignmerit, suitable to the
Season; with London particular Madeira in Bottles, Pipes,
Quartercafks and Hogsheads; Port in ditto, Porter in Bottles, Bar
rels and Hogsheads; Hams, Beef, Pork, fuperfine Flour, &c. &c.
which they will dispose of upon Terms for Cash, Produce or Go
vernment Bills, at their Store, No. 48, Bay.
N. B. About 50 Puncheons of Antigua Rum, and a few Barrels
of choice Indigo Seed, for Sale.
' FOR SA L E,
TWO compleat SADDLE HORSES of the English breed, one
of them as fine a horse as any in the province. Enquire of the
Printer.
ALL persons indebted to the estate of Andrew Marr, deceased.
are desired to call on Mrs. Marr, or the fubferiber, and pay
the interest due on their notes and bonds, and give new security if re
quired, until they can difeharge the principal. Those who negle& to
pay proper attention to this advertisement, will be sued for both prin
cipal and interest. All demands against the said estate are desired tc
be sent in attested, to JAMES CARSAN, Executor.
ABSENTED himfelf from me, a negro man named LINDO
short and thick set, about 25 years of age, dressed in a white ne r
gro cloth coat, with a scarlet cape, and in a blue waistcoat ; he won
a leather cap, (haves and dresses hair. Whoever will deliver him t<
me at Santee, or to Maurice Simons, Esq; in Charleftown, fhal
receive a GUINEA reward.
THOMAS WALTER.
A VARIETY of fafhiopable
Broad Cloths with Trim
mings
Irish Linens
India Chintz and Nankeens
Printed Callicoes and Linens
Masquerade Cottons
Checks and Stripes
Ditto Handkerchiefs
Marseilles Quilting
Dutch corded Dimity
Fine India ditto
Diaper Table Cloths
Printed Lawn and Linen Hand
kerchiefs
Silk and Cotton Romall do.
Ditto Bandannoes
India Ginghams and Persians
Bed Bunts and Ticking
Dyed Jeans and Jeannets
Mens Jean Waistcoat Shapes
Large Persian, Kendal and
Scotch Carpets
Mens silk and worsted Breeches
Patterns
Mens silk, thread and worsted
hose
Womens thread, cotton and wors
ted ditto
Boys and girls worsted and yard
hose
Mens and Womens ditto
Milled worsted Gloves, Caps and
Mits
Mens and Boys best black, green
and white Beaver Hats
Coarse ditto
Imported in the Calvert from LONDON,
And to be fold on the most reasonable Terms, by
TUNNO & LITHGO W,
At their Store, No. 91, Broad-street.
OSNABURGS, Sheeting and Irish Linens, brown Holland, Ruff
ha Drabs, Garlix, Dowlas, I,ong Lawns, Bengal Stripes,
Linen and Cotton Checks, printed Linens, Callicoes, C'h'intzes, dark
ground Cottons, India Jeans and Dimities, Drawboys, Lorettas,
Ginghams, Corduroys, Cafimires, Velverets, Flannels, Scarlet Cloaks
Cardinals,. Marseilles Quilting, Buckram, marking Canvas,
Mullins, Gauzes, Hosiery, Tapes, Thread, Ferrits, Womens cal
hmanco Shoes, Mens fine ditto, Military ditto, Bohea, Souchong
and Hyfon Teas; Plantation Tools, Padlocks, Stocklocks, Hinges,
Cutlery of all Sorts, Perfumery, an elegant Affortmeilt of Tewellery,
a „ com pJeat Assortment of Tin, China, Glass and Queen's Ware:
also Rum, Sugar, &c. &c.
Broad Cloths
Coarse Woollens
Trimmings of all Sorts
Jeannets
Dimity
Huckaback
Diaper
Marseilles Quilting
Chechs of all Sorts
Irish Linen
Cotton and Thread Stockings
Black and white Silk ditto
Callimanco
Durant and Tammy
Bed Bunts
Ticking
Tapes
Thread
Needles and Pins
Jacket Shapes
Printed Linens
Cottons
Callicoes
Chintzes
Corduroys
Ofnaburgs
Also, Iron, Steel, Salt, Ginger, Shot, Gin, Brandy, Rum and
Wine.
No. 33, on the Bay,
Has imported in the Ships Tartar, London and Calvert,
A general Assortment of GOODS,
Which he will fell on very reasonable Terms for Cash, Government
Bills, or Produce, or upon Terms of Credit convenient to the
Purchasers;
C° n ff' l "g ebifo of the following Articles.
BLANKETS, Negro Cloath
ing and Coals
Irish, Russia, German & Scotch
Linens and Sheetings, of vari
ous Qualities
Checks, Bed Ticks and Check
Handkerchiefs
Lawns, Gauzes, Ribbons, &c.
Printed Goods, coarse and fine
Muslins and other East-India
Goods
Manchester Goods
Hats, Hosiery, Silk and Thread
Threads fine and coarse
Ladies Stuff and Silk Shoes
Mens fine Shoes and Boots
Military Shoes
Soldiers Shirts
Camp Tables, Canteens, &c.
Sadlery and Horse Shoes
Hardware-and Cutlery
Ironmongery
Iron and Steel in Bars
Tin Plates and Iron Wire
Cast Iron Tea Kettles and Fire
Grates
Pewter Ware
Tin and japanned Ware
China, Glass and Queen's Ware
Flour in Barrels
A L
TO BE SOLD, }
By BENTHAM & SU tCLIFFE,
At their Store opposite to Gadsden's Alley, in Broad-street,
A neat Assortment of GOODS just imported,
As cheap as possible,
Among ivhicb are the following, viz.
JUST IMPORTED,
And to BE SOLD BY'
JOUN TURNE R,
At his Store in the 1 ard of the Houfe.No. 101, in Broad-street,
A large Assortment of
European and East-India GOODS, viz.
A quantity of genuine Madeira Wine,
Imported last July dire&ly from the Island, great part of which can
be warranted of the choicest particular Quality.
Which will be disposed of on the most reasonable Terms.
WILLIAM SMITH,
A large Assortment of Stationary
Printed Books
Paper Hangings for Rooms
Men and Womens best London
made leather Shoes
, Mens coarse ditto
.Womens and Girls Callimanco
ditto
Ofnaburgs, with Thread and
Needles
Sail Cloth
Coarse and fine Blankets
Coverlids and Silk Rugs
A large Assortment of Drugs, &c.
Best London and Whitechapel.
Needles
A Variety of Hat Pins
Fancy Coat Buttons
Cutlery, &c.
Plate, Jewellery and Watches
Watch Chains, Strings and Trin
kets
Falhionable plated and Metal
Buckles
Silver Shirt Buckles and Earings
Paints, Oil and Brushes
Cotton Cards'
Large Stone Jars
Corks
Scales and Weights of all Sizes
Best Durham Mustard
Best London Madeira in Pipes
Ditto Porter in Hogsheads
Ditto Irish Mess Beef in Tierces
Exceeding good double and single
refined Sugar,
&c. &c. &c.
Handkerchiefs, fine and coarse
Fine and coarse Hats
Ready made Shirts
Book Mullin
Black and white Gauze
Gauze Handkerchiefs
India Persians and Taffaties
Princes Stuff
Luteftrings and Mantuas
Black Russel
Dowlas and Sheeting Linen
Callimanco Shoes
Mens.neat Shoes
Military ditto
Carpenters Tools
Rice Sickles
Nails of ail Sorts
Brads
Coopers Adzes
Hinges
Padlocks
Stock Locks
Penknives
Cutteau ditto
Knives and Forks
&c. &c. &c.
Pickles, Oil, Mustard and basket
Salt
Round and split Peas
Beef, Pork, and Rein Deer
Tongues
Butter and Cheese
Switzerland Cheese
Loaf Sugar, Teas and other
Groceries
Snuff) Tobacco and Cordials
Oils of Cinnamon, Cloves, Ju
niper, and Annifeed
Confectionary
Candles and Soap
Cannon with and without Car
riages, from 4 to lalb. with
Shot and all the Apparatus
Cannon and Musket Gun-powder
Plate and plated Goods
Jewellery and Toys
London Porter in Hogsheads and
Bottles
Taunton, Burton, Wiftfhire and
Yorkshire Ale
Fine old genuine Port Wine ir,
Calks and Bottles
Sherry Wine in Ditto
Claret in Calks and Bottles
English and Holland Gin
English and French Brandy,
s 0,