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This hint not being attended to, Lord North, who was
standing at the bar with his Majesty's message in his hand, was
called to by the Speaker to bring it up, which his Lordship
obeying, and the members being all uncovered, a message
similar to that to the House of Peers was read from the phair,
and with the message were delivered in copies of the late
manifefto, and of all the memorials alluded to in it, which
having been severally read by the Clerk at the table,
Mr. T. Town/bend asked why the memorial delivered to the
States General in 1777, was not also there?
Lord North replied, that no other papers were then deliver
ed, but such as were referred to in the manifefto, and the me
morial of 1777 was not of that number.
Mr. T. TownJhend infilled that the memorial alluded to was
necessary, as it would enable the House to form a proper
judgement of the conduct of Ministry, in the course of their
proceedings with the Dutch; and if it was denied, the House
could not proceed to vote on the fubjed.
Mr. Burke expressed his wish that the noble Lord would
inform the House whether among Mr. Laurens's papers, there
was not one which explained the nature of the treaty between
the Dutch and the Americans ; and showed that it was not
to take place till the independence of America should be ac
knowledged by Great-Britain.
Lord North said he knew of no such paper; and if such an
one existed, it by no means did away the insult and injury of
fered to this country by the treaty, which contained nothing
in it but an agreement de futuro.
Mr. Burk? condemned Administration for having brought
on the late long adjournment, and thereby robbed Parliament
cf an opportunity to interfere with their advice, and perhaps
prevent a Dhtch war. The debate, however, was not now
concerning the expediency of it, but refpeded our approba
tion of the host lities already commenced. He was one of
those old-fafhioned fools who think war a serious matter, and
hold that every prudent precaution should be used to avert
it. But Ministry seemed to be of a very different opinion,
for they plunged into it hastily, and that they had done so,
was the only excuse they could make for'not having kept the
Parliament fitting; for if they had it in contemplation to
declare war, they were highly culpable in not consulting
Parliament on the fubjea. It was indeed a part of the Royal
prerogative to make war and peace ; but it would have been
decent in Ministry to have consulted those who were to pay
the expences of it. But this mark of refpeft was with-held;
and Ministry, by plunging the nation into the Dutch war, left
the House no other alternative, than to approve of it, right
or wrong, or desert the King and their country.
Lord North also profeffed himfelf to be one of those who
looked Upon war as a serious matter; and if that was a cri
terion of folly, he was as old fafhioned a fool as the Hon.
Gentieman, whose modesty made him give himfelf a name,
which every one knew he very little deserved. A war with
Holland was peculiarly serious, because it was against a people
who had been united to us by ancient treaties, and who shared
one common interest. With such a people had war been by
any means avoidable, the Hon. member could not be more
desirous than he to avoid it. If the keeping of Parliament
fitting longer, could have enabled his Majesty to preserve the
honour of his Crown, and the interests of his people without
a war, every minister would willingly have continued to fit
much longer. But the fad was, that when the House ad
journed, he had no notion that a Dutch war was so near at
hand ; he had still flattered himfelf with hopes that the States-
General would not have driven us to extremes, but would
have granted his Majesty that fatisfa&ion which he had with
so much justice demanded.
The Dutch, however contrary to expectation, persevered
in the silence which they had observed for more than two
years ; and by that perseverance proved that we had nothing to
expect from them conformable either to justice or treaties :jhe
necessity of a war thus became manifeft; and Gentlemen mitft
agree that the moment the necessity appeared, was the moment
to begin hostilities. Had Ministers then assembled the Par
liament, and alked their advice about the expediency of de
claring war, we should have loft all the advantages which re
fulfed hom a sudden attack.
The war with Holland was a war of necessity, and not of
choice; the papers which had been read by the Cleg showed
that necessity in the strongest colours, and at the fame time
evinced the moderation of his Majesty, and the patience of
his counsels. By a treaty between Holland and England in
1678, the two Powers had agreed that if one should be at
tacked, the other should in the space of two months declare
against the invader. In t,16, this treaty was enlarged; and
it was stipulated, that if either should be even threatened with
an invasion, the other should declare war in the space of two
months against the menacing power. Had Holland fulfilled
either of these treaties ? It was well known that Great-Bri
tain had stood since the beginning of the war in the two
predicaments described in the treaties. Large camps had been!
formed in Brittany and Normandy. Gibraltar had been be
sieged; and when Spain uniting her shipping with France,
had sent a naval force into the channel, such as had never
before been seen there, and which was defined to cover the
descent of a numerous army, what was the afliftance from Hol
land? None: Her treaties were forgotten; and England was
totally deserted by her. In this arduous and perilous situation,
his Majesty's moderation had been conspicuous. He did not
call for the performance of the treaties ; he did not infid that
Holland should declare war against France and Spain; he only
required that flie should not supply them with naval stores, and
that fire should appoint commissioners to treat with Sir Joseph
Yorke about the manner in which matters receding the
transportation of merchandize to France, &c. might be fet
tled to the fatisfaftion of both States. To this request the
Dutch gave no anfiver; and so far were they from affording
us that assistance, which by the most solemn treaty they were
bound to, that they absolutely continued do supply our ene
mies with the means of carrying on the war against us. We
were then obliged in our own defence to seize such ships as
were found carrying naval stores to France; but to show that
AGREED to the report of the resolution of yesterday, for
granting 80,0001. for the relief of Barbados, and 40,000!.
for Jamaica.
Passed the bill for augmenting the militia.
Read three times and agreed to the report from the Com
mittee of supply.
Mr. T. Townfhend, though he did not mean to oppose the
grant of rzo,oool. to the fufferers in Barbados and Jamaica,
yet thought the noble Lord should not have made the difference
he had done between the two islands, but upon certain data ;
and though he might not have been able to form a just idea
from the accounts transmitted by the refpeftive Governours,
yet proper data mightbe formed from the annual exportation
of provisions there, previous to the late hurricane. However,
since the proportion of two to one had been adopted, it was
the business of Ministry to use every means in their power,
that the supplies to be sent out should not be intercepted.
The fame calamity had befallen the islands of other European
Powers, and asth'ey must be desirous to relieve their distresses,
so it was probable that if Ministry proposed a cartel for vic
tuallers, the other powers would not be backward to agree
to it.
Parliamentary Proceedings.
House of Commons, Thursday, January „.
Lord Lewifoam rose to second the motion. His Lordship, in
a very elegant speech, took a view of the fubjedt, and recom
mended the Address as fit for the adoption of the House. They
all well knew, his Lordship said, that the most wanton wars
against Holland had taken place in those periods of our history,
when the interests of the Crown and of the people had been di'f
tind and different ; hence in the infamous reign of Charles the
Second, they had been not more frequently than unjustly
commenced. After the Revolution, however, when our glo
rious Deliverer, William the Third, swayed the fceptre of
these realms, a very different line of conduct was adopted by
us ; that Prince feeing what every man must fee, who has a
just sense of the true interest of Holland and of Great-Britain,
that they are one and the fame, cultivated a friendfhip between
the two countries; his Ministers did the fame; the exam
ple was followed by the Whig Ministers in the glorious part of
the next reign, that of Queen Anne, and it had continued all
the two subsequent reigns, during the whole of which time the
States had reaped the greatest advantages from the alliance. It
was not, therefore, without astonishment, that he now saw
what he had scarcely thought ppffible ; namely, that a French
party could have gained so much prevalence in Holland as to
make her lose fight of all policy, forget how intimately her wel
fare and prosperity was blended with the welfare and prospe
rity of Great-Britain ; how much she owed to this country in
the reign of Elizabeth ; how much she was indebted to the
services of that brave, that fuccefsful commander, and no less
wife and judicious negociator, John Duke of Marlborough;
and how much also her interests had been furthered by the ser
vices of our other Generals, in the continental wars pursued
by us in the latter end of the reign of King William, and the
beginning of the reign of Queen Anne ! The conduct of the
States towards this country, since the commencement of the
American war, a war which every good Englishman must de
plore and lament, though they must acknowledge, as he did,
that it was a war justly and neceflarily commenced, and which
this country could not avoid without disgrace ; his Lordship
said, the conduct of Holland since that period had been so ful
ly and so ably described, and remarked upon by the noble Lord
who preceded him, and who moved the Address, that little
remained for him to fay upon the fubjeft; all hedhould add,
therefore, would be to shew the House, how, beyond all ex
ample, the ingratitude of Holland had been, and how much
it behoved this country to prosecute, with alacrity and with
vigour, a war founded on the most indifpenfible necessity. His
Lordfllip here made some forcible deductions from the several
fads, of which the provocations confided, mid, after strongly
recommending the Address, concluded his speech by faying,
with feme energy, that he hoped he should never live to fee
the day, when Great-Britain did not resent, with spirit, such
insults as she could not submit to witli honour.
Their encouragement to our rebellious fubje^s was the
forerunner of this treaty. When one Paul Jones, an Ameri
can, or rather a Scotchman, had, with the assistance of some
French men of war, captured two of his Majesty's ships, and
carried them into the Texel, he was received in as friendly a
manner as if he had been in the service cf the most revered
Ally ; and, notwithstanding the pressing Memorial of Sir Jo
seph Yorke, to have the King's ships delivered up, Paul Jones
was permitted to refit, and carry his prizes along with him.
But this was not all ; to refufe to assist us was not enough
on the part of Holland ; to give that assistance to our enemies,
which flie refufed to us, was not fufficiently insulting ; to
complete her injuries—she must severe a part of our dominions
from us, declaring the inhabitants independent, and entering
into a treaty with them, as with a sovereign people. This
was not done indeed by the States General, but it was done
by a very consequential part of the Republick—the Magistrates
of Amsterdam, and in the name of the Grand Penfionary of
Holland. The moderation of his Majesty however had been
so great, that even this violent attack upon the dignity of his
Crown could noflhake it. He remonstrated by his Ambas
sador, and insisted on a disavowal and Satisfaction for the in
sult ; but they never disapproved of it, and when the Magi
strates of Amsterdam were called upon, and examined on the
fubjea, they loudly acknowledged it to the world. Here
was an insult of the most atrocious nature ; the fad was ac
knowledged by the perpetrators; and yet, so far were the
States General from puniihing the offenders, that they never
once expressed a syllable of disapprobation, and all that was
done towards complying, even in appearance, with the re
quisition of his Majesty, was, that the States General made
an order for referring the business to their constituents, with
out even appointing a time or a day, when an answer might
be expelled.
When Gentlemen epnfidered all these circumstances, the
necessity of the war must strike every unprejudiced man.
This consolation also arose from the forbearance of his Ma
jefty, that the war was forced upon us, And we did not seek
it. From this his Lordship trusted, that the House would
concur with him in an Address to the King, which condoled
with his Majesty on the melancholy, but unavoidable ne
cessity of going to war with ancient Allies; thanking him for
his endeavours to prevent it, and assuring him of the support
of the House against all his enemies. His Lordship then moved
the Address.
we had not a wish to injure the trade cf Holland, the mer
chants were paid the full value of all that was seized. To the
merchant adventurer one would have thought it was perfectly
indifferent where his cargoe was fold, whether at Brest or at
Portsmouth, provided he made as much of his goods. But
to us it was of the greatest consequence, that naval stores
should not be sent to France ; yet indifferent as the matter was
to the Dutch, they persevered in the resolution to supply our
enemies, and even equipped out men of war to serve as con
voys to the naval stores they were fending to France. Was
not this a most infamous violation of treaties? instead of de
claring war against France, and supporting us as they were
bound to do, with their whole force, they made it a point to
enable our enemies to defeat us. #
The motion was read by the Speaker, and a warm debate
began.
Mr. T. T&wnjbend condemned the Ministry for their conduct,
charged them with coming down after Christmas, year after
year, with an account of Great-Britain's having an additional
foe to cope with, and said, they never brought down word of
their having made treaties with a new ally. He ascribed the
war with Holland to the haughty language of the Memorial of
1777, which he had repeatedly called for, and demanded to
know the author of, but in vain. He took advantage of Lord
Lewifham's mention of King William and the Duke of Marl
borough, and drew a comparison between a glorious career in
those times and our situation at present. He concluded with
declaring, he did not approve of the Address, but would nei
ther object to the whole, nor propose an amendment.
Lord North replied with equal warmth, juftitied the conduct
of Ministry, and, especially, cleared them from meriting re
proach on account of the language of the Memorial of 1777.
Mr. Townsend replied again.
Mr. Eyre stated some fads which had come to his knowledge
from good authority, and which proved, that the Dutch had
in various instances been guilty, both of gross affronts to the
British flag, and of great injuries to British fubje&s, in Seizing
their ships arbitrarily, and disposing of them without a hear
ing. ..
Mr. Wraxall compared ohr feblime and glorious condition
in 1762 with our present distressed situation, and attributed the
rapid change of our circumstances to our having embraced the
tenet, that continental connections were incompatible with
THE co-partnership of the fubferibers having, by mutual con
tent, finally expired with the last year, and there being an abso
lute necessity for closing their concerns as loon as possible, they request
all those indebted to them by bond, note or account, at least to pay
up the Interest, and renew their Bonds : Those who neglect to do so
will, by the firft of August next, without diftin&ion, be immediately
sued; and as they have already given very long indulgence, they
hope every cpe concerned will pay proper attention to this notice,
and prevent themselves from being put to an unnecessary expence,
for by that day their books and papers will positively be lodged in
the hands of a Lawyer.
N. B. Those who have paid off flerling debts in depreciated mo
ney, are desired immediately to make good the deficiency, otherwise
they may expert to be dealt with according to their deserts.
Aprils, 1781. I JOHN SIMPSON, & CO.
ALL persons indebted to Robert Mackenzie by bond,
note or otherways, are required to pay off their refpedive debts
to the fubferiber, before the firft day or July next : every demand
then unsettled will, without delay, be immediately put in suit; and
those who have been good enough to difeharge their bonds, &c. some
time ago in money without v^ue, will please to take notice, that
unless those debts are renewed by the day above-mentioned, every
step will be taken to force a just and equitable settlement.
I ANDREW MACKENZIE.
r FHE fubferiber is under the indispensable necessity of ac-
I quainting those who are indebted to him, or to the estates for
which he is concerned, That unless they difeharge the interest due on
their debts, and renew their bonds by the firft day of June next, he
will endeavour to recover from them both the principal and interest.
Those who have made crops, he experts will pay the whole of their
debts. THOMAS SMITH.
Goofecreeß, April 23^, 1,81. i
To be Let on Shares, or to be fold,
A TRACT of LAND containing 300 acres, within ten
miles of Charleftown, between Wando and Cooper Rivers,
well timbered with oak and pine wood, within half a mile of the
landing, that a veffel-of any burthen may come to it without any
difficulty, and as good rice and corn land as any within that distance
of Charleftown. For further particulars, apply to Mrs. Martha
Edwards in St. Thomas's Parish, or, in Charleftown, to
23d April, 1781. WILLIAM BURT,
t No. I, Queen-Preet.
- (BY PERMISSION.)
To be fold at publick Sale, on the Spot, on Wednesday the lyb Day of
June next, in Allotments,
ALL that valuable well known PIECE of LAND, the cor
ner of Broad and Church streets, whereon is Holliday's Tavern,
and other BUILDINGS; its situation for trade is among the firft in
Charleftown. It is laid out, and will be fold in lots very convenient
for persons concerned in the dry goods business. The terms will be,
one-fourth cash, or good bills of exchange on Great-Britain ; the
other three-fourths to be paid in equal payments, at the end of three,
fix and nine months, in money, or good bills as aforefaid. The pur
chasers will have immediate possession, on giving security that the
terms shall be complied with.
Any person willing to purchase any of the said lots before the day
of sale, -is desired to make it known to us, at No. 8, Cumberland
ftreet, where a plan of the fame may be seen ; or whoever will buy
the whole, shall have it a bargain. WALTER MANSELL,'
f THOMAS CORBETT.
A few dozen of SOCKET SPADES to be fold cheap,.
Majority, 79
Lord Mahon proposed a second amendment, to leave out one
half of the motion, and insert words, assuring his Majesty,
that the House would take the papers into their consideration,
and when they had done so, would address his Majesty upon
the result oftneir deliberations.
This amendment was negatived without a division.
The main question was then put and carried.
The speakers on the amendments were, Mr. Byng, Mr.
Turner, Mr. Sinclair, Mr. Sawbridge, Sir Edward Aftley,
Sir Francis Basset, Mr. Fox, Lord Geo. Germain, Mr. Burke,
Mr. Adam, Mr. Dunning, and Mr. Martyn.
Mr. Sinclair, with an honest warmth, reprehended the ap
pearance of defpbndency in that House. He said, timid coun,
fels were the worst evil that could befall us, circumstanced as
we were; that it behoved us to look danger in the face, and
oppose vigorous exertions to increasing difficulties. The spirit
of the people, was as fierce as ever against all our enemies, as
might be known from the common conversation without
doors, and from the large sums fubferibed for the purpose of
attacking the^enemy. Id the Senate House alone was fear
and doubt to be met with.
Mr'. Sawbridge said, Lord North was at that moment Taping
and asleep. [His Lordship instantly made a bow for the ci'vili
ty^of the obfervation.] Mr. Sawbridge said, we were as one
man opposing all mankind; was it modest to assume that we
were in the right, and all mankind were in the wrong ? For
his part he always believed, th,at what all mankind said must be
true.
Sir Francis Basset turned the tables on Mr. Sawbridge, and
obtaineda laugh at his expence, by faying, that if the Hon.
Gentleman meant that majorities were always in the right, and
minorities always in the wrong, the argument would come
nearer to the Hon. Gentleman's line of conduct within those
walls than he perhaps intended, when he suggested the opinion,
[To be continued.]
the true interests of Great-Britain. 'He frwed. that all the
wars of Louis the XlVth were wars of fyffem and premedita
tion, planned, debated, and decided upon, in the Cabinet of
Versailles ; whereas, all our present wars had been wars of
compulsion, unwillingly entered into by this country. He
took a very copious review of the present situation, temper,
resources, profpede, and interests, of the ftveral European
Powers not in a Rate of war, and recommended an immediate
alliance with the Emperor, whose wish, he said, he believed,
it was to go to war with a certain Potentate. He anticipated
the probable good consequences of such an event to this coun
try; and, after displaying in the whole of his speech a deep
knowledge of the modern history of Europe, and a familiar
acquaintance with its various political interests, he strongly
enforced the maxim of defenda est Carthago, urging the neces
sity of destroying the navy of France, as the firft of all consi
derations ; at length he concluded with an eulogium on the a
bilities of the Ministry, and an exhortation to them to prose
cute the war with vigour, as the best means of obtaining an
honourable peace.
Lord John Ca^endifo reprehended Ministers as the authors
of all the distress Great-Britain at present laboured under.
His Lordship moved to amend the motion by leaving out the
words " unavoidable necessity." This occasion a frefh debate,
which continued till eleven at night, when the House divided,
and the numbers were,
For the amendment, 101
Against it, - 180
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