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doms.
3ir Richard W°rotefly objected to the word criminal m
the motion, and moved blameable, which was accepted;
in whi.ft form he thought itnighly advifeabte.—S tid that
the situation to which the Aummiflration had reduced the
country receding Inland, was but the counter part of
what it had experienced with relation to America, where
thirteen great and beautiful provinces were absolutely loft
for ever. He then adverted to some great calamity which
the nation had (offered in America, and which the Houf,
if not at prefenr, woull probably be in a few hours in pof
feflionof.
Lord Beauchamp took great pains to obviate every idea
disadvantageous to the military affociationsin Ireland; —
he repr; footed them not only as very ufeful, but as per
feaiyconflitutional ; to prove which, he real part of an
aft passed in 17+5, during Lord Cucfierfield's government
, in that kingdom, wi ich Secured to all the proreftant inha
bitants in chat kingdom the power of being armed, and in
the use of arms; and ne defended the conduit of the Par
ham^t nu.r% as bring dilated by no dangerous ambiti
on but fi np!y by the force of neteffity He lamented
however, that an earlier attention had not been given to
t Q-m as he was very certain that half the concessions mace
lift fe'llwus would have Satisfied the Irak better than dou
ble the amount would now.
Mr.Bucke Spoke with great knowledge and ability on
the fibj?d. He ridiculed Lord Beauchamp's fixation,
in w hen he found it necessary to defend administration,
at the rime time that he could not but admit re Das, and
be Libi )U that the Irish nation were ading a right part.
Toat tor As own part he thought the honor and dignity
'cfthis country were loft and gone, and that all dependance
ol^hit country on this, was broken through and defiroyed;
th.it the armed Societies about which eveg man Spoke wi h
Tefyefl. were yet the great Support of fucn demands as ne
ver Ae.’e made before upon this country ; that the address
of tii 4 lriih P irlument demanding a free trade, was car
ried to tne L>rd Lieutenant under the guard of those foci
cues; that non import agreements were extended to a
h; A and warmth equal at least to every thing in Atheri
c< i^ an Archblhop having desired an English aa of
Tatiimi fit to be read in the Houle of Lords there was re
fufed ; he was told tie might read that all, or the all of
any /.her country, as a pvt of bis Speech, but that it
fhfoj not be read as binding in Leland. Ail these <ir
fytft dieelw-re ads of hoftdity and vicknee, necessary
pireps to the distressed ft^teof that country, but utterly
in.o, 11 .tout with the dependance of a Subordinate country,
and ruinous to the honor and dignity of a British Pariia
meu. Triat as an Irifhm in he could not blame aft, whch
were in ffalli'y tho L-of patriodfm ; but he had also the
feeli.ms fan Englishman—he felt for the honor and ad
vinl c : e of a country which mid adopted him whi h had
fatfej him from'a state of obfeurity and contempt, and
placed mm in a Sphere beyond his merit or his hope That
p ilfeffir. such a fi tudtwn 'he wished individually to Support
Lie iSaJr and the dignity of that heufe; but, alas, it
was gone! He felt it 6 dien— and culd only now lament
tie infatuation, and folly ?fth de men w mcoul ' have pre
vedteJ fucli c uel evils' ,but whole vile mdolrnc^, a id ha
biiwil ihaiivity had proved t.e deftrudiou of their
country. That the Midifters fhoalJ ^tra, the interefis
@1 their eoihtry, and the dignity 01 Part ament, he was
not surprised; but they had done that which mull afto
him every one, they had equally facrificed the privileges of
the Crown. Taere was oota clearcrone than trie right of
arraying and arming forces, which was exclufy; but
they had not only encouraged the waiting those armed foci,
eties ; they had turmfhed taem with arms, absolutely ab
d>cwn y the Government. Their treatment of the Crown
reminded him of an ane dote of James IL His miftreffcs
were all so ugly, that bis- witty brother used to fay, they
were given him by his confeffors, not to gratify, but mor
tify the lust of tne flrih. In the fame manner he might
fairly fay, thatthe prefect Minifiers were not given to
the Crown to encourage an I Support ambition, but to mor
tify and ruin all its means and lupport ! Fortunately, how
ever, for Ireland, there was a spirit broken out, which
would save mem effectually from all un hie exertions of
ambition and prerogative Had not this f, iri arisen, the
{era we have Seen in America would be afted over again
in Ireland ;—we fliould have seen the port of Cork shut
up—tueir constitution altered—culprits dragged to Eng
land for trial, and in a word all those abominable exer
tions of power, which have broken down and ruined the
British interest end pewer in America.
The Lord Advocate of Scotland enterred into an ela
borate defence of Administration. He laid that nothing
From the St. CHRISTOPHERS JOUR-
N AL, of March 11.
LONDO N.
II OUSE OF COMMO N S.
MONDA y, December 6.
TORO Off^ry rife, awl prefaced the motion he had
x j to make with some hriaurce on the prefect slate of
fcmiJ, which he represented anexceedingly alarming,
and d M^erous. He attributed it to the careiefiaefs, in
auent^M and negligence of administration, particularly
in their paying no attention to the address of 1 ;fl sessions
for information ;—in their doing nothing through the
summer ,—and in their calling together the Irish Parlia
ment is the midst of all the heats of that country, and
before the Parliament of this country met to prepare a
plan of ease to their trade, &c. He Did that these negle^s
were so fragrant, that fortunately for him, they demand
ed no powers of eloquence, they fp^ke for themfelvts in
a language more perlualive than that of oratory ; for theie
reafonshe moved the following resolution * 'f That it is
hi >hly criminal in his M^fty's Miniflers to Ifave neglect
ed the Rate of frelaad, so much as to fuffer the difeontents
of tue Kingdom to rife to a height that is dangerousto the
conditutiond connexion between the two kingdoms, and
tending to separate the remaining parts ot the British em
pire."
Lird Middleton facondel the motion, and dwelt par
ticularly on the madness of Government permitting the
Irtlh Par lament to meet tagine force and efficiency to the
dtfeomems of the public, whica he represented as a
dar ning to the high^ft degree, and apprehended that
they .routed virtually todiffolving the connect ion be
tween ail the purposes of commerce between thetwo king-
could exceed the injustice ofhying the present slate of
of things to tne door of Adnuoiftration. That thegrand
objection of not calling Parliament together in the sum
mer, upon this buhnefs, would fall to the ground when it
was considered that thelaflaft of the House, before it ad
journed, was rejecting a bill for the enlargement of the
Irilh trade; rejected by a majority, formed of men of all
descriptions, from every fide of the House, voting from
their osn feelings, aadopirions alone. How, therefore,
could a Minifler think of Calling them together t® do the
very contrary to wharthey had just done before. That
as to permitting the Irdli Parliament to meet before that
of Britain, though there was some appearance of reason
in the objection, yet gentlemen should remember that it
is abfolutelyfneceffary from the date of all public ills in
that country, that they meet in Odober, consequently
the British Parliament properly to precede them, mus lhave
fat in September, that is, in the very midst of an impor
tant, active campaign ; he was ready to declare, he thought
such a thing impoffib ! e; public butineD could not go on in
such a predicament ; l>efides, it was to be considered; that
tie Nobility and Commoners were then at the camps on
the public service, from whence they could not be called
with mt great inconvenience; that, as to the other grie
vances of Ireland, than those of trade, they did not take
their rife from the country itfelf, but were sent over by in
flammatory orators from this fide the water, instead of
which, one spirit of unanimity, and conciliation, ought to
fpreid throughout every rank.
Mr Fox It appears, Mr. Speaker, to be viry extraor
dinary indeed,that a recommendation ofco 10<fs, modera
tron,and consistency, should come to us from those men—
from that man, who in the queflion of America (for it is
impuflible to separate it, it bears so near a resemblance to
the business before us) was all heat, intemperance, and in
consistency. It comes, I fay, with a very ill grace from
those who talked with so much violence of Mr. Hancock
and his crew ; but I trust we shall not hear of Mr. P ry
(Speaker of the Irish House of Commons) and his erew
from toe fame mouths; thank&to the brave fpiritof the I
rilh nation; and mofi peculiarly ridiculous, Sir, are such
recommendations coming in a speech condemning inflam
matory orators, whi^h contains the most opprobrious, falfe,
and inflammable assertion that I ever heard in anyfpeech
in Parliament ; no lets than accusing the gentlemen @n this
fide the House with fending over the materials of refinance,
and fpecifying the demands to be made by Ireland. The
best an wer to such fluff, is to fay that it is a Falsehood
notorious to the whole kingdom. Whofent it over ? Who
animated them to their p^efent nifcontents and violence?
Is Mr. Prime Serjeant Burgh an Englishman > Is Mr.
Grattan an Eugldhman ? Are the rest of the leaders of a
unanimous Par lament Englishmen? But, Sir, the asserti
on is a piece of that old, falfe, and contemptible fyftemto
which the meanness of Adminifiration has defended in
the cde of America, that all the evils under which the
kugdom groans are owing, not to the negligence and
blunders or the men who hive possessed an utic mtroulM
power, liuttothofe who, however unavailiiagly, opposed
their ruinous folhes, ignorance, and infufficiency. It is
perhaps the most contemptible argument that ever fell
from any lips but those of compleat ignorance; of an ig
norance no less than that of tne learned gendem en who
nowafferts thit it is to this file the House the disorders of
Ireland are owing Has he never read, has be neve
conversed? Does he not know (hat it is an old demand
of all the Ir.fh nation in print and otherwise, that the
Parliament of England has nothing to do with Ireland ?
Is the learned Gentleman just dropped from the clouds?
Did he never hear of Molyneux? Sir, these opinions
werealways common in that kingdom, ldut they had not
to do with a weak and blundering adminiftrstion, who
rel King all the powers of government whenever they
were frightened with an appearance of force, h : ve thrown
the whole empire into convuifiens. Their negle^s Har
ved that kingdom, and their we.knels animated it to vi-,
oie.ee: Thus iris only to them that we are obliged for
this fcem of ruin and confufiou 1 And v f h.i? is the in
formaLOA which admiailration this sessions meets Par
liament with ? What are the points &f knowledge they
lay before us ? Yes, Sir, we have information —we are
informed by 42 000 bayonets it is come te that.
You must give a free tra Je to Ireland, or they will take
it in f,te ot you; and what in the last fiffims would
have been taken as a favour, is now demanded (word in
hand. Nor cm I here. Sir, om.t mentioning bow near
ly this amazing neglect of administration was to bring
ing on the last ft ge of violence.— If Alderman Hor.m
had nt followed the advice not to p-rfift in his action at
gamfl the Commiffiettfri of the Revenue, it would have
come to an frdh jury ; it would have been given for him;
and if tt King's cutters usd not ft zed the goods, a free
trade to all,he world w.iq eftab ifhed at a single stroke
without our participation: And on the contrary, if the
carters bad taken the goods, a war between the two .oun
triis was lighted up from that moment, asinfaUTly as
ever it was by the tea beingthrown into the ea at Boston.
ft is said, Sir, that the Irdh demand of a fr^e trade is not
undtrftood : Toere can be nothing dearer than what it
means: It means that the Parliament of Great-Britain
ihould have no controul over their trade.—They may rr*
strain themselves, but you mail not restrain them, you
may deny'them a trade to yonr sugar colonies!f you please,
but then they will trade to the colonies of France, or
where they please, fubjed to the controul of their own
Puliament only, and absolutely independent of yours.
This I know to be their idea ; and if the noble Lord comes
with a proposition ihort of that, it will be received with
contempt.
Sir, as to the armed associations which have been men
tinned so often I (hall only fay, that I am so far from think
ing them bl meable, that they are highly merito r i° u6 °
Blame men in such times as these fer arming themselves.
No, Sir : I wiih to fee arms in the handsof all his^a
jefty' sfubje^h —the Irish have fayed themselves by t hcfe
armsand God forbid the Englilh mould hereafter feet an
equal necessity of forming likewise. They havefet uste
example like a brave and vigilant nation; was this Hoff
ready to follow tne exampleof the Commons in Ireland,
in refuting money bibs till grievances were redressed, ,
fairs would not have cbm? to their prefect situation; Ad
minifiration would not then have continued the plague a fed
curse of this country. But there are yet hopes that those
men who bave uniformly opposed their measures with (pi.
rif, and a love of freedom and the conftitutian, will yet be
able to reduce—nor the party of Adrni. Iftration, for there
is no such party ; and I will venture thaffirt, th^t if the"
power and support of the crown were w ifh'drawo from them,
there would not from attachment be filteen men in his
Majefly's dominions that would come continue to support
them. In faft, there are only two perries in the king
dom, the pirty of the crown grown great with the great
ness of the empire, but not fallen with tne calamities of it;
the other, that band of patriotic men united firmly in the
determination to reduce within sale and con ft national
bounds that enormous power which threatens this king
dom with evils from which America and Ireland have Se
cured themselves. This party contains all propriety of
honor, of rank, and of abilities, that can render it re
fpe&able in the eyes and feelings of mankind; and fland
10g so much in the way as it does of that system of pow
er which the learned Gentleman supports and withes well
to, no wonder he tries every effort to befp,tier and calum
niate them ; happy when any occasion offered of triumph
ing in the aivifions of that party, but abashed and con
founded now they know that it is firmly united in heart
and hand to oppose their ruinous and contemptible mea
sures—abashed to fee that house, which was once called the
hospital of incurables, now, by the splendor of abilities,
and the exertion of rare and and uncommon talents,
(Lord Shelburne) becoming totally otherwise ; And I
will venture to assert, that to this party it is alone that the
People look up, and expert salvation from Designs
which they, know vary well now to ^a horn, and to under
ftaud : They confider this Adminiftrution equally as the
bane and ruin o the CGuftitution and the empire, andthe,
hope and wish for nothing so much as to fee them cruflied
beneath the weight of that ruing they have made so a
larming and extensive. Now, Sir, to talk of wiffong the
removal of these men, withont centering tl.etn, I taink a
degree of weakness and indiferetion ; and I am convinced
that the only way of fatisfying the Irish that we are sin
cere in our attentions, is to a s ree with the prefect motion
to condemn that Administration to whole negligence their
mifehievous and unhappy situation is totally and solely
owing.
The other speakers were Col. Barre, Lord George Ger
maine, Mr. Dunaing, Mr. Attorney General, &c.
On a division there appeared,
For the Motion, —— too
Again ft it —— — 192
C O R K, January 10.
CORK UNIO N.
On the 16th day of December last, the following Address
of the CORK UNION to his Ex ellency the Lord
Lieutenant, was unanimously agreed to
To his Excellency JOHN EARL of BUCKINGHAM^
Lord Lieutenant, General and General Governor oi the
Kingdom of Irelacd.
Tne Humble ADDRESS of the CORK UNION, unani
mously agreed to at a Meeting hed this Twepty-fixth
day of December, One thousand seven hundred and se
venty time, in the City of Cork.
May it please your Excellency,
WE, his Majefty' smoft dutiful and loyal fubjefts,
the Members of the CORK UNION, one ofthe
Volunteer Corps of this city, are anxious to take the ear
liest opportunity of presenting to your Exc llency our
warnseft and mofi sincere thanks for your wife, just, and
upright adminififadon, particularly for the faithful and
prt ffiig REPRESENTATIONS made by your Excel
iency in favour of tbis long oppressed and exhausted coun
try. To these reptefentations in a great measure, we hold
ourselves indebted for the valuable commercial benefits
this kingdom is now upon the eye of receiving.
We intreat your Ex ellenc, to assure hit Majefly, that
as we have armed ourselves at our own expeace in defence
of his Majefly and our conflitutioaal right as Irift Mem, so
we ar& resolved to assist in repelling the hofile attacks of
all his Majesty's enemies agaioft this k%dom.
Enjoying the happiness of being governed by the fatre
gracious Sovereign, connected by ties of blood, uniforms
ity of manners and language, and above all, in the par
ticipation of a similar free con ftitution with our fellow
fubjefls of Greats Britain^ we shall not vie with them in
any thing so much as in attachment tr our common So
vereigOf and in every effort to contribute to the fafety,
honor and prosperity of these free kingdoms.
Which Address having been ordered to be preferred to
his Excellency by such Members of the UNION as were
then in Dublin, and the fame being transmitted according
ly, a copy thereof was laid before Sir Richard Heron, Se
cretary to his Excellency, to which the following anfwer
was given by the Secretary.
" His Excellency was very thankful to the Cork Union
for their kind intentions, and the manner they exprefled
themselves as to his condufl ; but th t he must decline
having it presented"
Ata meeting of the Cork Union, the 10th day of Ja
nuary, 1780.
Relolved, That conceiving the presenting of an address
breathing sentiments of loyalty and affection to our So
vereign, and eg pre fling approbation of the cendua of
his Representative, to be the falotary right of all his
Majesty's fubjeds, and that the exercise of fuchundoubt
ed right would meet with the warmest reception at the
foot of the Throne. We earnestly regret that a fyflem
of politics mould now prevail, which feemi to diferimi
nafr ebetween loyalty to government and zeal for the con
stitutional rights of our country, and are confirained te
fufpeD that either misrepresentation of our principles, or
misconception ofeur expressions, could alone have produ
ced such a mistaken system, and the consequent difecura
ging rejection of our address.
Resolved, That as one inftitutiem has been undeniably
founded on the purest motives of royalty to our Sove
reign, attachment to cur country, and affvaicn to our
fellow-fubjeas, so our condud Ihall invariable be guided
by these principles.
Resolved, That these refoliations be published in the
Cork news-papers, and also in the Dublin Evening-Poll,
and Freeman* Jotrnal.
Signed by order,
JAMES GREGG, Secretary.