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I certify the above to be a just and true lift of the prizes drawn in the Pettie's Island Cash Lottery, for the benefit of
the Methodist Preaching Houfc.
STEPHEN BAYARD.
A LIS 1 of the NUMBERS that came up Prizes in the Pettie's Island CASH LOT
TERY for the benefit of the Metbodiji Preaching House, in Philadelphia.
N. B. Those numbers that have no sums annexed to them, are prizes of Fifteen Shillings each.
No.Dol.No. Dol.No.Dol. No. Dol. No. Dol. No. Dol. No. Dol. No. Dol. No. Dol. No. Dol. No. D o J.
POSTSCRIP Tto the Penffilvania Packet. No. i 45.
the time of Sir Edmund Andrews, who was then Go
vernor, and the Americans passed a law, declaring
that this country had no right to tax; it is true, when
that law came over here it was rejected. Let Gen
tlemen confider, that if we tax America at this period,
her trade and every thing else will decline. I think
that Boston has the most merit with this country of
any place I know ; ihe is a molt valuable ally, or a
subordinate colony ; take it in either sense, her pof
leffion is inestimable ; but 1 really fear very much,
that the Americans are to be thus treated, without
the parties being heard. Ido not like to fee public
liberty and the rights of perJons infringed. There are
two articles in the bill, which I cannot blame the
Americans for refilling ; I mean that of the Council
and the judges being cbfen by the Crown. The anci
ent way which their charter directed of chofing their
council, was far more eligible ; they were men that
were at a certain old age, to which experience gene
rally adds wisdom, that were eleded council; but
this is a new system, that carries with it neither expe
rience nor wisdom; and I think the change unnecessa
ry, though not oppressive. 1 think the office of Ihe
riffis more oppressive, because he is an engine of
power in the hands of the Governor : Nor do I ap
prove of taking away the town-meetings: There is
but one precedent of this kind to be found in history,
but I could wish, on the present occasion, that a se
cond had not been made.
Mr. Sawbridge. The oppefition 1 have given to
these measures does not proceed from a fettled dispo
sition against administration, nor do I do it for the
fake of popularity ; it is for the love of that ittriy,
which Ihave always been strengthened in, and bred
up by education ; I had rather bear the badge of the
parish, than-that of apoflacy. It has been urged in.
debate, that this country has a right to pursue those
MR. Dempfer. I do not apprehend that the bill
before you is at all adequate to the purpose
intended, nor do 1 think',hat experience war/ants the
assertion, that a fair trial cannot be had in the colo
nies : surely, the bringing men over to England to
be tried, is not only such a dire& breach of their con
stitution, but is a deprivation of the right of every
British fubjeft in America. I Ihould have thought
that a power of reprieve, lodged in the Governor, af
ter conviaion, would have been fully fufficient,
without bringing men to England. Whenever mur
der is committed, it must inevitably go off with im
punity ; for whenever any person present ihall find he
is to go over the Atlantic as an evidence, to the de
triment of his family and his fortune, there is no
doubt but that he will evade the necessity of his ap
pearance as an evidence. This will beh means of fub
jefting the people of that country to assassination, in
the room of legal trial ; and the invariable conse
quence has always been, that when a fair trial cannot
be procured, the revenge of the relations of the de.
ceased will exercise itfelf in this kind of cruel assassi
nation. I, perhaps, may be wrong in my ideas ;
but I have looked into the history of that country with
care and circumfpe&ion, and it has inspired me with
the highest veneration for those of the firft settlers ;
they emigrated when that Star Chamber doctrine was
pradifed in this country. Oppressed as they thought
themselves by the mother country, by the cruelty of
those arbitrary laws, sooner than fuffer themselves to
be oppressed by tyranny, they chose rather to combat
with tygers and ndians in America, than to live in a
place where oppreflion and tyranny ruled. It is no
new thing that they have refufed to comply with the
payment of taxes demanded from this country. This
exemption is a very old demand of theirs, and sup
ported by their charter. Imprisonment of two per
lons, who held this kind of d.&rine, was made in
measures adopted in the bill, and that necessity is the
ground and argument which urges it on: But pray,
let me alk who is to be the judge of that necessity ?
A nation surely cannot be called a free nation, where
another has a right to draw money out of their pock
ets ; but I cannot underhand how any one can agree
with these measures, and deny the right of taxation.
If you exercise an authority which does not belong to
you, or if you force an illegal authority, they have a
right to resist. Ido not fee any necessity for bringing
over the people to be tried by a Jury of England : I
think the Crown Should have lodged a power in the
Governor to pardon, and I should have thought it
the brightell jewel in it on this occasion. You fay,
that the Governor] is to use his diferetion with regard
to the having a fair trial ; but by this bill the Gover
nor, I fay, is not the judge of that, for it must be upon
the oath of a witness ; he must believe that witness,
and no diferetion is left^in the Governor. No man
will become a voluntary evidence on such an occasi
on; he will sooner fly from that Situation, than be
transported to England. By that m^ans jufti^e will
be evaded, as evidence cannot be had, and the peo
ple will foot itake upon themselves to revenge their
own injuries.
Colonel Barre. I think it criminal to fit fli'd upon
the final decision of this question, as 1 cannot in any
ihape approve of this measure. I think the persons
whom you employ to execute your laws, might have
been protested in the execution of their duty, in alefs
exceptionable manner than the bill proposes. Your
army, in that country, has the calling voice, and it is
AMERICAN AFFAIRS
ThefntimentsofMffs. DEMPS 1 ER, SAWBRIDGE.
BARRE and FULLER, on tbe LAST of the Ah.C
RICAN BILLS.