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0 USE of C 0 M MO N S, Decern. 9, 1779°
(Continued from our last.)
THIS oropofition, his Lordfrp observed, woud cer
tunly open a new fourze of wealth to Ireland; and it
be a 'oft which (he could not claim, the'Britr.h
Monies and settlements were our own, gained and ef.^-
bhed by the expence of the blood anl treasure of this
Under a consideration, however, that Ireland
a part of the empire, and that it was right for Great
to give Trehn I every possible encouragement he
Ifarmed the reflation ; at the fame time that he laid
is much; he owned that his proposition was a matter of
nicety, a matter which called for much confiderati
, m^ht be ass R'd by a thousand relative circum
^CT which would naturally suggest themselves in the
^ rved, that it would be necessary to go
?rn thfs matter by force reftridaons, because otherwise
Han 1 would be put uoon a better footing than England;
bich would certainly not be a wife mcafure, anymore
one, or such as Ireland could herfeh in reason
as tae reftriAions however, were to be left to the
Oration and decision of the Parliament of Ireland,
. did not imagine they would be any obstacle, or that
mifr mi«ht not be so modelled as to make it per
aiv expedient and effi :acious towards every end that it
Wd ^calculated or detired to answer. He repeated how
t^e whole ofthethir i proposition would require
and c^umfpeaion than either of the others ;
,° e o bfca io n, hef^he forefaw, ^P^y
,Tris was, that the imports fronrthe Weft-In
the principal o> which is sugar, would come
yi^to Ireland and Great-Britam ; the importer,
tm Irelan I would have to pay higher duties than
footers of Great- Britain, a circumfUnce which
ten I t> letter the importation into Ireland, because
mi^t chafe to have their sugars circuitry
h Great Britain, and to receive them at tdu
mantlmore high duties which they must pay for
p importation from the Weft Indies ; he could not,
owe^r, b^ think, that giving Ireland a power of dired
moarta^on from the Britilh Colonies (which under all it,
fogies, would still dou,!^ be very desirable mat
»r\ was certainly a great objed. He declard, he should
sot the whole of the three proportions to the Com
nittee, to whom, at a future day, they would b e refers
L an 1 to whom, when he did refer them, he should
'^ the fubjeß much more fully, and enter into an
detail of the reasons and circum fiances, upon which
:Xd founded them ; state the views that had opened to
m : »d upon the whole matter ; point out the particular
and benefits they would convey to Ireland, and
the difficulties and grievances which that people
r r \nd wh ; ch the P irliament of Ireland had conveyed
o'the' T none, at t,e fam- time that they fully decided
: of 'he fort of redress whi h they had hoped for
so when they ^d for a free trade.
Hi I added, t r ;at taethree proportions he had
comprehended in central, as much as Ireland de-
That there would neverthebO remain force parti
to be given, whict would naturally f^
Hvey ereaf^r, and would b 5 a matter of no fort ofdifficul
y 'errandaccommodate.
p I vdfhip m wed, " T iat a Committee of the whole
Ho&e Io fit on Monday next, to take into consideration
the oa,>r^ on their table relative to the revenue, trade,
of Ireland.
Before h Q fat down, hii Lordfhipearneftly recommend
• 4 it to gendemen to turn the matter most ferioufl, in
for minis, and to come prep red to entqr fully into toe
and to treat it witi that candour, mode
ti^ and attention which its great importance defer-
MONDAY, December 13.
A- HI after 4 o'clock, Lord North role, and after a
hort tor- difeonrfe, which will come out more m
tHii/ riifVm&iy io his Lordihip's narrative, open
el'his three proportions relative to the allows Ireland a
froeeup ct o f her wool, woollens and wool flocks; a free
eO^itmn of giife and all kinds of glass minu^aures;
'if pm of trade with the British plantations on
cm I conditions, the,treat foundation of which was, an
equality of trade, and an equality of taxes, customs, &c.
on the export and import.
To demoaflrate the matter of right, as well as matter
of favour, which Ireland had fought, or might claim, ne
ftat*i the following proportions 1 Frft, That Ireland had
a free md jn'li:nitej right to trade with the whole world;
stonily, Tat Ireland did not pretend, to claim any
ri/ht d^aiy or co relatively, with any part 0 the Bri- #
tifh colonies or plications. Every parfos in bothkingdoms
most inrtmtly give an uniwrfil oafent to the latter pro
portion It was not his wish on the present day, and on
so present occasion, to enter into a difctfion of questions
m'ty foeiulati^ ;fo much, however, # .e could nazard,
that mixing the broad claim of a free and unrestrained
trade, and qualifying it with the advantages deriveable
from a cenoeaion with Great Britain, it would not be
too much to fay, that although theclaim was with Ire
lan 1, the option of a connexion with this country, and a
partripition of commercial interests was clearly in favour
o r the latter, in preference to any ideal or remote bene
fits which might be drawn in future from what by force
w is m+rftoed, by force perhaps very mist ikingly, under
then >4cfi ied terms of a free trade. He would even go
further, anl iffirm, that from every thing he could learn,
that the people of the firfl rank and consequence n that
kingdom perfectly met his opinion on the fubjeft, and
that their own good sense led them to make the estimate,
and wifely determined on the choice
His Lord(hip after explaining himfelf pretty much in
detil relative to tae drfpofi.ion of the people of Ireland,
and endeavouring to prove that it was both their interest
and inclination to ft nd well with the people ot England,
proceeded to demon ft rate, that on the idea of such a natu
ral and political connexion, they had been rather narfh-
I 7 and impolitically treated. Before the restoration they
enjoyed every advantage and benefit in common with En
giand. Even the plantation a&9 of the 13th of that King
(1661) did not r^ftram them In the year, the 2xd of
that King's reign, it was true, that liberty was taken
away by a fide wind, for tne bonds entered into for the
{Fro:-. t§e New York Paper, cf M?rch 13.]
LONDO N.
Having thus enumerated the hardships Ireland labour
ed under, his Lordfliip next proceeded 10 state force ads
relative to the trade of that country, and the numerous
benefits this derived from it in the way of trade and com
merce. Hefaid, upon an average of the fix years, from
1766 to 1772, the export to Ireland was somewhat more
than two millions ; and in the fucceeoi^g fix years, end
ing in 177^ about as much more, one half nearly Bri
-1 sh manu allure or produce, the other half certificated ar
ticles of which this country was the medium of convey
ance, out of the native produce, which was something
more than 900 tool, per annum, &n the average only
200,000!. were woollens ; so that in this light, supposing
ev^ry thing that any man could wish to conclude from the
fa&, would it be found policy to risk a million export of
native produce for a woollen export of 200,000!..
Another very important con liberation was, that Ire
land, when restored to her wonted good humour, joined
with motives of common interest ; as (he had alwayski
ther proved, would continue to be the best culiomer this
country has. The woollen mariufaAure must for a long
time indeed continue in a fiate ot infancy ; : and though
cloaths had been manufactured fufficien t to,aufwer a con
siderable part of the home consumption ; yet it could be
hardly expeded that Ireland would be able to rival Great-
Britain at rhe foreign markets, when, after the expence
of the land carriage freight, insurance, adorage, &c. the
was able to underfill Ireland in her own markets on the
very spot, though aided by toe advantages of low wages
and taxes
effectual execution and purposes of the plantation aHs
mentioned, England and Ireland, [but in the subsequent
alt Ireland was designedly left out, which at one firoke
cut tie Irish totally off f.-bm all communication with tke
English colonies in the new world.
There were anecdotes Hill extant, relative to the real
causes of tnofe arfh and rehriftve laws. They were
supposed to have originated in a dislike, or jealcefy, of
the great po^e of the then Duke of Ormond, who from
his great estate ind poffeffioas in Ireland, was supposed to
have a personal interest in the proiperity of that kingdom.
Indeed so far was this fp rit carried, whether rem per
sonal enmity to the Duke of Ormond, from narrow pre
judices', or a blind policy, that the parliament of Eng
land passed a law to prohibit the importation of Infix lean
cattle.
The wool export and woollen manufacture still re
mained in the poss ffion of Ireland, to refture which was
the objed of his present motion. In 1692, from jealoiafy
or force other motive, tne two hou es of the English par
liament addrefftd the crown, recommending a kind of
compact between the-two kingdoms; the terms of which
were, that England flio^ld enjoy the woollen manufacture
exclusively, and Ireland the inen. Now, however fo
iemnly this compaa was observed by the latter kingdom,
the truth was, that England carried on the linen manu
f^Oure to as great an extent as Ireland, while the mono
poly of the woollens remained totally with England.
Tne firft hep the latter took was, to lay a duty on all net
woollens nearly equalto a prohibition ; but what did En
gland do in a very few years after, but by an aft of its
own parliament, actually prohibited the export oi Irish
woollens? That was the ad that at once pur an end to
the woollen trade 0 Ireland The next ad was a law of the
fi th of George the firft ; toe next the fifth and nineteenth
of the late King, which last went so far even as to pro
hibit the export of a kind of a woollen manufacture cal
led waddings, frizes, and one or two other articles
which were excepted out of the tenth and eleventh of King
William ; but these three last a&s swept every thing before
them.
Having eftablifli^d this point very ably he then 'pro
pofed to confi !er the state of the linen trade, which how
ever prosperous it might appear, was still capable of great
improvement. It was a pamphlet written by the cele
brated Sir William Temple, that firft suggested the idea
of extending and improving the linen manufacture of
Ir land, and firfl suggested the compact between that
kingdom and England alluded to. It was the opinion
which prevailed with many, he believed, that as the corn
pad was wow to be diffrived, should the Irish be per
mitted to enjoy a tree export of woollens, that tae boun
ties paid on the importation into England of certain spe
cies or fabrics of Trifti linens, ought to be difeontinu
ed. In tnis he differed greatly from the gentlemen who
reasoned in that manner, and he would Support his dif
feren e of opinion from -the following authentic docu
ments.'
From a paper which his Lordfllip held in his hand, he
observed that the number of yards of linen manufactured
for foreign consumption, or which was exported in the
year 1 51, was twelve millions ; the next year the Bri
tilh bounty was d ; fcommued, and it fell to ten millions ;
in 1756 it was 00 higher than eleven millions ; and in the
next yer, 1757, when the bounties were again granted,
the number of yards entered for exportation, Suddenly
rose to fifteen millions ; and so continued to increase for
several years.
This was fufficient ground for him to conclude, that
the British bounty operated as a great encouragement. It
was not a large sum that was appropriated for this pur
poie, the -whole not being in the highest year, above
15,0001.
He made several other miscellaneous observations to
shew that Great Britain had nothing to dread in the point
of rivadhip in the woollen branch, for that when there
was a proper demand for wool io Ireland, it bore a much
higher price than in England j so that as we must have
the superiority over the Irish in thefine fabricks, so in the
low ones the innan ed price of the raw material must be
a great impediment in their way 1 not that he thought
but Ireland tyght, in force articles which would not in
terfere with Efeland, reap great advantages from the li
berty proposed to be given by the present resolution. He
fta ed that till lately the Irish wool had been progressively
®n the rife from ten to twelve, and so on as high as eigh
teen (hillings the stone ot 1416. whereas the wool in Eng
land lias been fold at the double-stone of 281 b. or the tod,
at bout 20s. or 10s. the stone, when however wool bore
a very low price, which he understood it did at pre
sent, being so low as nine, or even eight Killings the
stone, it wopld encourage the people to manufacture it,
and the more particularly so now, as they would have a
market.
His Lordship then enumerated the several a&s which
were to be repealed, so far as they reffrided the woollca
L O N DO N.
IF one was to judge of what is to come from what is
past, and prelent, the Americans will be in high favour
at Court next reign. Tne Scotch, who rebelled against
Getige the Firfl and Second,, are new in high favour
with George the Third : Ergo, the Americans, who have
repelled agamftGe rge the Third, will of course become
high in favour with George the Fourth.
What is it our American brethern would not have been
reduced to, had ihey remained under the government of
this country ? Only tke a review of what fort of men
have been lent out tor Governors to the Colonies since the
deraife of the kite King: And now, theother day, the Min
den Hero, at the recommendation of M Ils and
K—x, the ne&s-paper scribblers, has appointed a wretched
Buffoon to be the Governor of the Bahama Islands! But
even of these poor f vra Iflanda that as yet remain with
ws, it is probable we shall very soon be difpoffeied ; then,
let Mimflry appoint away their Governors to the Hebri
des, Orkriiys, and Shetland, in the North.
By a private letter from Parts,received last French mail,
by a gentleman of difliufhon in tie city, we are inform
ed of the following poftkript of a letter from Count D'E
flaing to a particular friend of ids at Versailles, soon alter
toe reduction of the Aland of Grenada.
" So much of my plan I have happily efftded ; you
will soon hear of my anting on a greater fc de, which £
hope wiil be as fcrvic^able to my country as to the liberties
ot Europe."
Spain declaring again# us, has been one of the greatest
affiftaoces to the American cause, of any that h.s oither
tohappeoed. Since that event, the paper money of th/Cca
grefs, which before wasat a very high aifeount, is, by the
introduction of Spanish gold, considerably lowered, and
a credit ftampt on the paper, which gives it a circulation
almost equal to our B nk notes.
Therefignati®n of General Burgoyne does him honour,
and is a adh proof of the integrity of his heart, and the
delicacy of n/econdufl Unfortunate in an exp^ito%
through the quirks of an intriguing Minifler, he Anew
himfelt on his country for an exculpation ; the Minister
denied him this^ommon right of a British tubjeft. He
next asked for a Court Marti 1, gvhicb was likewise equal
ly denied him. To hold any office, therefore, under such
an administration, would be an implied barter for his ho
nor, which as a gentleman and a foloier he'could not put
up with./
We feme time ago informed the public, through the
channel of this paper, that the Government of Ireland
made propotals to the Armed Socie fes of that country to
accept of pay, and be under the regulations of th. Mdtia-
Act. Tnis proposal, tho' made to the several corps by
their principal officers, was treated with the utmost con
tempt, and f me ot the most forward of them (who were
well known to be attached to administration) very nar
rowly escaped with their lives. The Armed Societies,
in consequence of this, having ever since conducted thera
fejves with remarkable fpiri and circurafpedion, (hold
ing Committees in correspondence all over the kingdom,)
lately gave rife to the following letr, whi^h being pub
liftied in all the Irish news-papers, with an avidity which
feemi to avow general p/inciplefy we republic it as the
best trait of the preterit disposition of the people of Ire
land.
export of Ireland, namely, the 12th, 15th, and aid of
Charles the second, the loth ana ;irh of William the
third the sth of George 1, and the sth and 19th of the
last King, which was agreed to, nerntne cent? adteente,
as were likewise the fecoud and third proposition s relative
to the free export of glaf„ and a permission to be given
to Ireland to trade with the British colonies upon equal
terms, on the payment of equal duties upon export and
import. The two firfl, hjs Lotdfhip said, he would in
clude im one bill, and proceed in the uiual stages with all
comment expedition. Tne last third, he threw out to
the consideration of the Houle and Parliament of both
kingdoms, till after the Ciirifimas recess.
MANY forces afhng in different or contrary direc
tion, mutually destroy each others effiOs; when, if half
or perhaps the tenth part of t;e e forces, were brought
to aft collectedly on one point, would be irrefiftable. This
is the crisis for Ireland : This year we shall either be arnao
cipated from the bonds of poverty, or we ihall remain
more wretchedly miserable, in as much as we shall iofe
all hope, which is the only thing we have at prefect held
out as a palliative to the complication of miseries under
which we labour. The antidote is yet to come—to you,
gentleman, your country frauds much indebted; let it
owe you a little more In England, every person seems
thoroughly feafible, and acquainted with our pover y and
misery, and when force men more generous than then
common :erd,urge this as a plea for executing Englifii cha
rity in the R ritifh Houses 0 Parliament, the answer is in
variably this; " If their distress be so great, let their own
Parliament set the example ;' 'lt is a reasonable and just
answer to all appearance,did we not know that our represen
tatives, as they are called, represent themselves, not us ;
and confeq^ntly take care of those they represent. Rest as
sured, gentlemen, that if our Parliaments do not espouse the
cause of this unhappy kingdom in a very warm manner,
that of Englaudwill catch at the excuse, and leave us in eur
present state of wretchedAcfs. The Armed foctetie# of
ttis kingdom are the major partbf the Couftifeats; con
sequently have a right to debate on the most eff^aual means
to^ttore the long loft happiness of their country; and
wfcn united in opinion, have undoubtedly a just right to
iahrua their Keprefentatives; and what is moreefle6tual,
have certainly the power to punish those who a& tne part
of paricide and traitor, by not permitting them ever af
ter to have the honor to re present them and likewise to
pafa the humiliating resolution of never admitting them
into any armed society.—Where is the man so callous in
heart and unfeeling in mind as to be insensible to these
ads?
Let the Societies come to a resolution to ad in the above
manner, and Ireland will have reason to bless their insti
tution. The condu& will claim, and I hope receive the
applause and admiration of all Europe. By the Commit
tees the sense of all the Societies in this kingdom may be
had in a very few days : Resolution and unanimity will
make us entitled to the attention of England, and we then
must and will receive justice as our rig t. If our mifs
ries are to receive no alleviation, we may then fay, lik#
To the ARMED SOCIETIES.