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L 0 N D 0 N, JUNE'S, 17^
HOUSE of L OR D S.
LORD Sr. JO H N, moved, “ That the proper
" officers be ordered to lay before this House, the
“ late difpatche# from Sir George Brydges Rodney, thole
« particulars only excepted, which concern the future
' operations of the fleet, and which, by being made pub
" lie, might be of service to the enemies of this coun-
Lord Pembroke produced a letter from an officer on
board the fleet, in the action in the Weft Indies on the
17th of April, which warmly commended Admiral Rod
ney's conduct, but blamed that of several of the com
manders of (hips, without particularly mentioning an y*
It Bated further, that in the writer's opinion, the spirit
of Pallifer had gone abroad, and possessed the Navy 0
England ; that the fleet were but poorly off as to stores,
and if the French refitted firfl and were reinforced, all
we had in the Weft-Indies mod necessarily fall.
Led Shelburne commented upon this letter, and
Complimented Lord Pembroke and Lord St # John. He,
at the fam 1 time in severe terms reprehended the Ad
rmral'y for publishing such a letter as that which had ap
peal d in t^e Extraordinary Gazette of Thursday fe c
nll t, which te said was a severe stigma on every indivi
duals Admiral Rodney's fleet, from the Captain down to
tie private foremaft man.,
Lord S^dwich replie I, and assured the House, that
fl rt gr]ar and extraordinary as the fact might appear, Ad
m.ral Rodney's let'^r had not contained a fy liable in praise
or condemnati n of any particular Captain concerned in
' n'of Uk 17th of April. The Admiral had rot
fwired him that C^pt Bateman of the Yarmouth,
r m ar„fl, as& which he had learnCd,from 0-
,I ~r,^t° communication. His Lordlhip allowed,
the leter Bated, that he Admiral ba- act been well
, o-tel and ms Lordship gave a variety of cogent rea
<for not making the letter public, and therefore op.
fed th* motion. ,
FT Duke of Mancheftd' Cahed 00 the noble Earl at
- eat or the A m ralty to tell the House fairly, whe-
r er Sir George Rodney had nt, io his private or public
patches, fid who was anl wno was not to blame for
ir con.luft in toe action in which Sir George Rodney
lofraved so gallantly.
Lor' Sandwicn declared, that in no public dispatch,
or in the A mind's private letter to him, had he men
tinned anv rin-s further than thename of Capt. Furgu
fon of the Venu', who not being in the aaion because
as Cap an oi a frigate be was moving about, the mention
of him did not fall within the scope of the preferit argu
trent
This speech of Lord Sandwich gave rife so a very in
terpin: debate on the diftin&ion between what was real
ly a public lettered a Minister, and therefore amena
ble to the public, and liable to be called for, and what
was not.
The Duke of Richmond, the Earl of Shelburne, Lord
Abington, Lord Sandwich, and Lord Stormont, took
partin it.„
Lord Shelburne was exceedingly acrimonious, and in
the very moment that I is Lordihip said he meant to be
petfeaiy candid, was extremely harsh and severe.
Lord Sandwich, on the contrary, was warm, but though
inelegant as he usually is, had much the best of the argu
ment. His Lordship refuted the out-of door prejudice,
that he wasp rfehally adverse to the appointment of Ad
miral Rodney, and was his enemy, by stating that he had
warmly recommended him as a brave and worthy officer)
fit to have any command, previous to his being employee,
and by reciting his official and private letter to him, in
answer to his Jifpatches, in the hrft of which he had di
refte 1 him to bring the censurable officers to immediate
tri I, and to write word home, who they were, and in
the latter, had bellowed the warmed panegyrick on his
conduct. , .
Lord Stormont, with great accuracy and a marked ni
cety of diftinaion, defined the d tferen e between a pub
lic and a private letter to a man in office.
The Duke of Richmond perfedly agreed with Lord
S'ctmon , as to his diftmaio,.
Lord Shelburne took o cafich to trike what he called,
a farewell speech to the House, declaring that a dOmeflic
call occasioned him to leave the House almost immediate
ly, and pr+ vented him from attending the debate on the
Bill of his hoble friend the noble Duke hear him, [the
Duke of Richmond | and that, though he would not bind
himself to the assertion, mol probably he Ihould not
return to that House, till matters were riper, and there
was a greater likelihood of hs (peaking there to feme
purpose. His Lordship id this fpeechdtfplayed great abi
lity, and great powers of eloquence. It may be said of
him, in Scripture phrase, that he lifted up bis voice like
a trumpet, cried aloud, and spared not. His Lardfhip
termed the House of Commons a venal house of Parlia
ment, declared Lord North a guilty man, arid Challenged
Ministry to f cd him to the Tower.
Lord Dartmouth called his Lordship to order, arid de
fended Lord North on cenftitutional grounds, declaring
that he was not a guilty man, and (hewing that Lord
Shelburne's accusation was equally contrary to order,
contrary to justice, and contrary to liberality.
Lcrd Shelburne fpeke in reply, and very atly.
At enga the question was called for, and the House
divided.
Contents, 16, Not Contents, 42.
Tellers Ear Ferrers Lord Sandwich.
Mr. Wright and Mr. Chamberlayn were then called
to the bar, when tbeiatter flat d very divinely the whole
tranfaHio from the moment of his having received or
ders froir Lord North to p^pzre the Magistracy, and in
flruH t ent)have t a power in readings to pre
vent any riot, co the preceding day, to that hour.
Mr. W% 4 do gave a clear account of his conduct,
and prove, beyond c r vt adiaion, that he had not heard
of y orders from Lwd North, and that his visitation
of Westminster 00 Friday as a Magistrate, arose rather
from bis own withes to preserve the peace, than from any
inftrudion either from Lord North, or any other quarter.
The twogentlem n were di'miffed from the bar, having
acquitted themselves refpvdively, to the entire fatisfac
tion of t'eir Lordships.
T e Order of the Day being then called for and read.
The Duke of Richmond role, and resumed the sub.
jed he was a (peeking upon the preceding day, when he
was interrupted by Lord Mountford's bringing intelli
genceof Lord Bofton' sbeing in 'the hands of the mob,
and in great danger.
His Grace (poke for more than an hour, preparatory to
his reading his Bill, and made a most elaborate, but one
of the most matter!, harrangues we ever heard in Parlia
ment. In the course of it, his Grace defined the consti
tution, its powers, its relations, and faculties, (hewing
that the Con flitution was the opposite of party, and de
pended more on reparation and diftind matters, than on
connexion and intimacy. He said, itsthree parts were,
the laws of natur 1 and religious liberty, the Parliament,
and the reserved rights of the people. He (hewed that
the powers of the Parliamentwere not supreme, and pointed
out how, and in what in fences, the conflitution of the
Parliament could be be altered, though the conflitution it
felf could not.
His Grace's Bill was for the creation of an entire new mode
of election, taking the whole kingdom by enumeration, al
lotting the election of one member to a diftrid to be called
a borough, and so composed, that all through the king
dom about 2700 persons should cleft one member, and
that the entire ele Hion of the 558 Members of Parliament
fliould take place 01 one day. The Bill also contained
a variety of'provifees, founded on great forefight, for the
prevention of such difficulties as so extensive and vast an
alteration might be attended with..
A fliort conversation eufued upon this Bill : Lord Bat.
hurft and Lord Stormont were the only (peakers upon
it on the part cm Administration ; the latter was very ele
gant in his Bile, and not a little pointed in his manner of
rejecting the Bill,
At length it was read a firfl time, andon the motion of
Lord Stormont the Bill was rejected.
The Duke oi Richmond gave notice in the course of the
debate, that be Ihould print both his speech and the Bill,
and lay them together before the public.
The lecthid re ding 01 the Bill to amend an Aft of the
fl of the present King, " entitled an A& to prevent oc
casional freemen Mom voting at elections of Members to
serve in Parliament for cities and boroughs , was, upon
motion on Friday last in the House of Commons, put
off till to morrow.
The Committee on the B:11 to repeal an Aft of the
19th or uis present Majerty, " tor granting certain du
ties by pert n. letting horses and carriages to hire for
travelling, &c." was likewise put off tul Wednesday
next.
Theconfideraticn of his Majesty's message of Thurs
day was obliged ta be put off till to morrow ; as was al
-the r port from the Committee appointed to confider
of the Aft " for promoting the discovery of a method
for finding the longitude at sea, &:." and likewise tae
report from the Commitee on the Bill " appointing
Commiffionm to examine, take, and state the public
accounts of this kingdom."
The House rose between TEN and ELEVEN o'clock.
A correspondent fays, it is resolved that for the future,
the firft Lieutenants of men cf war of the line, (hall have
inftruajons, that upon the appearance of an enemy's
fleet, and the EugUth Admiral hanging out the signal lor
chafe or engagement, in case the Captains of such (hips (hall
net immediately bear down and engage or chafe, the near
ett (hips of the enemy not being engaged with any other
British fquadreo, the firft Lieutenant of such refpedive
Blip of the line hull be required, and be thereby empow
ered and authorized to put his Capt in under arrest and
bring his (hip immediately into aaoa with such nearest
ftupsof the enemy,
June 6. Every man ffiuft tee that public outrage can
produce no g od effta, but may do infinite mifehiet. The
end that is attempted to be supported by moos, bears upon
the face ot it, great imbecility of plea, and by a kind of
tacit acknowledgment, will not adm t of argument in its
maintenan e and defence; whatever then may be the real
meaning and desire of 'hof who have assembled in large
numbers in the Breets, and committed so many outrages
since Friday, .they may rest affored that they iirengthen
the handset their enemies, and put the atchievement of
their wishes at a greater d rilance by every violence they
commit. It their hopes and inclinations are rcafonable,
they will bear a sober and reasonable difeuffion, to which
they ought to be left; if they are not reasonable, and are
attempted to be carried by force, it is the duty of every
good (u je& to refill th. torce, rind thus a mutual con-
Hi& will ensue, which will unavoidably produce a variety
ml evih, and a^eng otaers) iTprifanment, trial- and ex
emplary, perhaps ignomiuku. punishment! Let those
who thrnkthey are warranted by motives of confeience
in c interlining law, and violating the public peace, reflect
a liiile (onfeioudy on this argument, and let them avoid
danger in time. When the fyirit of popular fury is abroad,
it behoves government to be vigilant and vigorous 1 In
Bppl}'" ] ^ a remedy, government will necessarily be obli
ged to have recourse to rough medicines, and if it Ihould
be compelled, is once reduced to the alternative cf either
confeffing itfelf unequal to the talk of preventing further
riots or using the leift means of putting a flop to them,
the benttit of the community will oblige them to adopt
the latter, and the end will be marked with blood and hor
ror.
It is earoeftly to be hoped, that every man who know#
the diflin&ion between domestic peace and domestic dis.
order, will use his utmost efforts to persuade his neigh
bours to return to their several avocations, and to join no
mob in the ftrests on this or any other oecafion ; by that
means only can the labouring man, the artizan, and the
mechanick, preserve tbemfelves from personal danger, and
acquire that profit and happiness which never fail to result
from peaceable and honest industry.
A correspondent assures us, that the associates on Fri
day made a great toiflake in their attack on Welbore El
lis, Esq; treating as an enemy their friend, the friend of
mankind.
Mr. Mahon desires us to fay that his name was inserted
yesterday by mistake, amongflthofe of the witnesses who
attended in Bow street on Saturday last, as that gentle
man gave no evidence, nor did he take any part for or
against the unhappy people.
A correspondent desires to thank the officer who com
manded the party that escorted the rioters to Newgate
yesterday afternoon for his very considerate behaviour.
On their return, the mob, by their repeated insults, pro
voked oie cf the guards to attempt to level his piece, the
officer instantly Bruck it in the air, and forced the fellow
to proceed, (though God knows there was profocatiote
fufficient to make any man lose his temper.) This pru
'dent conduct very probably saved many lives, as such it
ought to be know to the public, not only in honor to
this gentleman, but as an example to his brother effi-
The Duke of Richmond's plan for altering the election
of the Scotch Peers as explained by his Grace, and prepo
fed in his Bill presented to the House of Peers on Saturday
last, was this . •The principle of the British Houfe^f Peers
being that the Members enjoyed their feats hereditarily,
whereas that of the other House is, that th^ Members were
elective, his Grace designed to make the hereditary prin
ciple of the House of Peers universal, and to extend it to
the Scotch Friers by ordaining that in eighty-one there
Ihould be a freih election of sixteen Scotch Peers, and
that those who mould be then chefen,lhould be the heredi
tary Peers ol Scotland. In order to make feme amend# so the
rest of the Scotch Peerage who were by this means to be
deprived of their chance of a feat in the Upper House,
his Grace proposed, that his Majefl y ffiould have power to
grant Englilh Peerages to the Scotch Peers at his difereti
-011, and that the eldest sons of the Scotch Peers Ihould be
derive to feats in the House cf Commons In like manner
as English gentlemen properly qualified now were.
Letters from Paris advise, that the Marquis de Paradis,
the late celebrated spy to both England and -France, was
executed about ten days since: He was firft confined at
the Cateau de'Pierre en Sife, at Lyons, from whence he
was removed, at his own reqeh, to the Castle at Arras,
near the gates of which he was hanged ok a very left'
gibbet. lie was permitted to fee his wife and children thp
day before hi# death, whofe'parting with him is repre
sented as a most affeding fctne of family distress. He jg
said to have died with great fortitude.
On Saturday last died, at his house near Brompton,]
Thomas Hutchinson, Esq; late Gove^nor of Maffachu
fett's bay, in the 6gth year of bis age.
June 7. Advice is received from Tculon, that a squa
dron, consisting of (even (hips of the line aad five frigates,
with transports, and provisions, &c. on board, failed
from thence the 20th ult. for the Weft-Indie#, and that
Paul Jones was gone with them, having obtained a com
rriffion, and the command of one of the most capital
(hips.
From the LONDON GAZETTE, June 6.
By the K IN G.
A PROCLAMATION.
GEORGE R.
WHEREAS it hath been represented to Us, That
a great number of persons, in cons quence of ad
vertisements or hand bills inciting them thereto, did 'on
Friday last, the 2d of this instant, June^ assemble in a
riotous and tumultuous manner in St. George's Fields,
in the county of Surrey, fr m whence they proceeded in
several bodies to Palace yard, wenmitififa furrohnded
both Houses of Parliament, rand p,ffeffe'd themselves of
the avenues to the. fame, (the laid Monies of Parliament
being then fitting,) where they continued in a riotous
and tumultuous manner, commuting great outrages and
violence against several ci our tubjeas, and Blonioufly
taking money from then; ; ffter which, in the evening of
the fame day ; , they infultbd,and attacked the houses of
some of the public Ministers of Foreign Princes and States,
refining at cur Court, and broke into, Spoiled, and fee
fire to chapels, whichjn every civilized country are al
lowed to such public Minified for the free ekercife of the
religion of their country, to the great scandal and of
fence of all truly pious arid gaol pfoteft nts : We there
fore, in order teat the reproa'ch ot fn frantic and atroci
ous an outrage against tie precepts of religion, as well as
the obligations of all law#, may not remain a disgrace tof
Our kingdom-,but may be confined to the authors, abet •
tors, and perpetrator's of the said outrage, and that the,
may be brought to speedy and condign punishment, and
that such dangerous and Wicked praflices may hereafter
be prevented, have thought fit, by and with the advice
of our Privy Council, to publish and declare Our refac
tion to put the laws in force against such offence#: And
We do hereby enjoin and require all justices of the Peace,
Sheriffs, Mayors, Bailiffs, Constables, and a'l other Our
loving (objects, to be aiding and assisting to the utmost
r power in suppressing such illegal and tumultuous
assemblies, and in deteßing, apprehending, and bringing
to justice the persons concerned in assembling or insti
gating the fame, and guilty of any of the violences above
mentioned: And for the better detection of the persons
who were concerned in the outrages committed at the
houfe# of the said public Ministers, We are graciously
pleased to promise, that if any person shall difeover any
other person or persons who, directly or indirectly, were
concerned in pulling down, or beginning to pull down,
or in setting fire to the chapel of any Public Minifler, so
as that the person or persons discovered may be prose
cuted for the fame, such difeoverer shall have and receive,
as a reward upon conviction of such offender or offenders
the sum of FIVE HUNDRED POUNDS, and also Our
gracious pardon for the said offence, in case the person
making such difeovery shall himfelf be liable to be prose
cuted for the fame, except the person who firft broke
into, or began to pull down or set fire to the said chapels.
And the Commissioners for executing the office of Trea
surer ot Our Exchequer, are hereby required to make
payment of the said rewards accordingly.
Given at Our Court at St. James's the §th day of June,
One thousand seven hundred and eighty, in the
twentieth year of our reign.
GOD Save the KIN G.
+ ( Htt+.*+)^++++4 ?++<,+++*
WAS brought to the stable of the Subferiber, on the
nth instant, by a man unknown, a large bay
HORS E, black main and tail, has a small star in his
forehead, with two white hind feet, two saddle mark's,,
some scattering grey hairs on his buttock, (hod all
round, and has a small white (pot on his off shoulder.
The person who brought the said Hurfe to the stable, is
desired to come, prove property, pay charges and take
him away, or he will be fold on Wednesday week, te
pay his txpences. Enquire of
NATHANIEL TWINING,
at the Bunch of Grapes,