From: rrga-l@list.rtowest.org
To: rrga-l@list.rtowest.org
Date: 2001-05-16 08:34:00+00:00
Subject: Re: Mindless Lists

Dear Mr. Dalia - Please do not be adding me to any more lists.
Jack Heaston

----- Original Message -----
From: Dalia, Keith A - TOS-DITT1 <kadalia@BPA.GOV>
To: <RRGA-L@LIST.RTOWEST.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:39 PM


> You have been added to the RRGA-L mailing list (RTO West Congestion Model
> Content Group) by Keith Dalia <kadalia@BPA.GOV>.
>
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> quickly realize  that you used the  wrong number and call  again. No harm
> will have been done. If on the  other hand you accidentally make your FAX
> call  someone's  voice  line,  the  person receiving  the  call  will  be
> inconvenienced, especially if your FAX then re-dials every 5 minutes. The
> fact that  most people  will eventually  connect the  FAX machine  to the
> voice line to  allow the FAX to  go through and make the  calls stop does
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> People would just get mad at you.  It works pretty much the same way with
> mailing  lists, with  the difference  that  you are  calling hundreds  or
> thousands of people  at the same time, and consequently  you can expect a
> lot of people to get upset if  you consistently send commands to the list
> address.
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>