T he P lanchet- I . C. C. JULY 2024

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A.N.A. C-131170 - I.S.N.A. LM 243 - C.S.N.S. L-600

Established 1939 and celebrating over 80 years of service
to the coin collector.

The next meeting will be July 15th, 2024
Monthly meetings of the Indianapolis Coin Club are held the third Monday of each month at
the Northside Events and Social Club 2100 E. 71st Street in Indianapolis, Indiana.
The Meetings consist of a business session, educational program, an intermission, and anumismatic auction.
Doors open at 6:00 pm, meeting will begin at 7:00 pm.
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As hopefully all of our members know, the ICC has a library that is free to use for it's members. The
current list of library books is available on the ICC website. Jim Sukup usually brings a few books
each month but we want to make sure that everyone is aware of the books that are available.
Email Jim prior to the meeting and he will bring your selection if it is available.

jsukup@rpiratings.com

Th is M on t h s Edu cat ion al Pr ogr am Will Be:
July 15th, 2024
Meeting start time: 7:00 PM

Th e Icon ic St an din g
Liber t y Qu ar t er
by Jim Roeh r dan z

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A Few Words From Your Pr esident
by Sharon Bower
Hello,First, I would like everyone to make sure that they look at the current TAMS Journal.
Congratulations to Christopher Bower for being published. A couple of admin notes:
1.Elect ion s of ICC Of f icer s-Editor position will be vacant at the end of the 2024.
2.ANA Wor ld?s Fair of M on ey in Rosem on t , IL.
-August 6-10, 2024
-2024 World Fair of Money Program
https://digitaleditions.walsworth.com/
publication/?m=10522&i=825077&p=1&pre=1&ver=html5-Sh ow Hou r s
Tuesday ? 1 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Wednesday ? Friday 10 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Saturday ? 10 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. (Admission is FREE for everyone on
Saturday!)-Adm ission In f or m at ion
Admission is $10 daily, $25 for a weekly pass.
Free for ANA members & children under 12.
Admission is free for everyone on Saturday, August 10.
Please note: Valid photo ID required ages 18+.
Also, our very own Planchet editor Christopher Bower will have two displays at the
ANA show in the exhibit area.
Fr om t h e US M in t :A New Coin & Medal Series Coming In 2025
We?ve joined forces with DC? celebrating comic book art as a uniquely American art
form. This new series promises to surprise and delight comic aficionados and coincollectors alike!
Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman launch the series in 2025, but who will jointhem?
This is where we need YOU! Help us choose six more DC Super Heroes? three each3

for 2026 and 2027.
Take the super quick survey below and vote for the DC Super Hero you want includedin this epic collection!
Your Hero, Your Choice!
https://catalog.usmint.gov/comic-art/
Here is the link for the press release:https://www.usmint.gov/news/press-releases/mint-warner-bros-discoveryglobal-consumer-products-announce-coin-medal-series-launch-survey
Remember to have fun on your vacation and if you have time look for an interesting
numismatic find to share with the club.

Edit or ?s Not e:
The views expressed in any article aresolely those of the author and do not
represent the views of the ICC, nor does
the ICC endorse any advertiser.

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Sh ou ld We Look at War Nick els Again ?
by M ar k Ben ven u t o

A good deal of numismatic press of late has been devoted to the 75th anniversary
markings being given to some United States coins, all related to the Second World
War. D-Day, June 6th , 1944, is now more than 75 years behind us, and living membersof the Greatest Generation are all now in their 90?s. Honoring the men and women
who won this war is definitely commendable.In a twist that is related to that, why notlook once again at what are called the war nickels?
The Jefferson nickel design had first been unveiled in 1938, and came roaring out of
three different Mints in amazingly large numbers that initial year. By 1942 the design
was probably common to most people in the country, and the Buffalo nickels weremost likely fading from view and circulation. But at the beginning of 1942, daily life
had changed in the United States. The Empire of the Sun had just hit us hard at Pearl
Harbor, and Rommel?s Afrika Korps had gone raging across several lands in the northof Africa. At that moment, it was far from a done deal that the Allies were going to win
this. Everything was up in the air, and nothing was certain. The United States needed
to get to a war footing in 1942, and needed to do it quickly. A small part of that waschanging the composition of our five-cent pieces from their 75% copper ? 25% nickel
alloy to something else, so the nickel metal could be redirected and used for the war
effort. What the Mint came to for the five-cent piece was an alloy of 56% copper, 35%
silver, and 9% manganese.

These war nickels were produced from the middle of 1942 through the end of 1945.
This means that a full set of them will include eleven pieces ? this because there werenone of them minted at the Denver branch Mint in 1942. Beyond that one though,5

there are nickels from Philadelphia, Denver, and San Francisco. And all of them sport
an enlarged mint mark on the reverse, in the field above Mr. Jefferson?s home,
Monticello.
Getting our hands on any of the war nickels today is not really too much of a problem,as all the mintages were high. In fact, the 1943-P had the highest mintage of any
Jefferson nickel to that time, with an official tally of 271,165,000 coins. That total israther impressive; and it would not be surpassed until 1962. These large numbers
mean that none of the regular issues are going to cost that much today. But there is a
strange fact about these nickels that we cannot really get away from: in heavily
circulated condition, they look awful. Maybe it?s just the alloy, and how it wears, but incirculated grades such as VF-20 and below, these nickels just do not look goodanymore. That means we?ll want to see about assembling a set in some higher grades,
which also means with some good eye appeal.
If we want to go for attractive war nickels, it might actually be worth looking at MS-65
specimens, or at least some of the lower grades of mint state. Aficionados of the
Jefferson series know that there is a premium that some folks pay for what are called?full steps? coins, those with each step on Monticello clearly delineated. Each person
will have to decide for themselves whether or not this tiny difference in strike is worth
spending more. After all, steps or no steps, mint state coins usually look pretty good.
Speaking of looking good, the price tags for each of the war nickels qualifies, sinceeach costs only about $20 in a grade such as MS-65. Yes, there are a couple of double
die varieties in this set, and a 1943-over-2-P variation as well. These three are all rareenough that their costs are up in the hundreds of dollars. But taking these threepieces out of the equation, we arrive at a pretty good bottom line. A set of war nickels
should not cost all that much.
Curiously, there is one further possibility when it comes to the war nickels. Mr.
Jefferson?s face shines out of a limited number of proofs from 1942. From 1936 to1942 the United States main Mint in Philly had been in the business of striking proofs
each year. Not a lot by today?s standard; but they did have a program up and running.
In 1942 there were apparently 27,600 1942-P nickels produced in the new alloy as
proofs. Folks might think that this one nickel will cost that proverbial king?s ransom,
but in a pleasant surprise, a PF-65 example is listed in a couple of the major priceguides as being worth about $125. That is not bad at all for a very sharp-looking
five-cent piece. Now, if we can just find one that is for sale.The continued buzz about
what new coins, precious metal bullion coins, and other commems are coming out of
the Mint sometimes blinds us to the classic coins of our history. World War II may not
yet qualify as ancient history, but it is now getting pretty far into our past, and slippinga bit from the collective minds of our citizens. A collection of Jefferson nickels madefrom the short-lived wartime alloy might prove to be a good reminder of the changes
people had to make to win the biggest war we had ever been in .

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Announcements:
Our speaker this month, James Roehrdanz, has asked me to have everyone make sure that there cell
phones are fully charged for his presentation on Monday. Sounds like there is going to be an audience
participation part of the program.
-editorJust a reminder of some upcoming local shows.

71st St r eet Coin & Cu r r en cy Sh ow
Northside Events Center
2100 E. 71st Street
Indianapolis, IN 4622
July 14, 2024
August 11, 2024
September 8, 2024
October 21, 2024
M ich ian a Coin Sh ow
Sts. Peter & Paul Social Hall
59250 Keria Trail
South Bend, Indiana 46614
August 4, 2024

Tr i Cit ies Coin Sh ow
St Mathias Church Hall
101 W Burrell Dr
Crown Point IN 46307
September 21, 2024
ANA Wor lds Fair of M on ey
Donald E. Stephens Convention Center
5555 N. River Road
Rosemont, IL 60018
August 6-10, 2024
Fr ee adm ission on t h e 10t h .

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Adver t ise in t h e In dian apolis Coin Clu b
New slet t er !
Th e cost is on ly $35.00 f or a bu sin ess car d size adf or 11 issu es!

PLEASE try to have correct change, or at least use
smaller bills, to pay for auction items that you win.
Especially troublesome are $50's and $100's whichquickly drain the change that is available. That change ispersonal money, and it will be greatly appreciated by thechanger and auction assistants to make giving changeeasier and more efficient.

Your auction lots could be listed right here.
Any active ICC member can put lots in to our monthly auctions.
Send them to the editor by the Thursday before each months meeting.

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July 2024 Auction Lotsfor 7/15/2024
Description

Grade

Additional Notes

Starting Price

1879 Morgan Dollar

VF$35.001879 S Morgan Dollar

VF$35.001837 Bust HalfG

$55.001838 Bust HalfG

$55.001906 Barber HalfF

$40.001916 Walking Liberty HalfAG

$25.001918 Standing Liberty Quarter

XF$35.001919 Standing Liberty Quarter

VF$55.001883 V Nickel

VG$23.001906 V Nickel

XF45$12.001910 S Cent

VG

$8.00

1912 D Cent

VG

$5.00

1912 S Cent

G

$8.00

1922 D CentF

$12.001922 D CentXF

$23.001935-F Fr1615 Silver Certificate

Gem

Consecutive Pair

$30.001935-G Fr1616 Silver Certificate

CU

No Motto$10.001957 FR1619 Silver Certificate

CU

$7.00

1957-A FR1620 Silver Certificate

CU

$8.00

1957-B Fr1621 Silver Certificate

CU

$8.00

1996 Aruba 5 Florin KM12

AU

$4.00

1857 Bank of Upper Canada 1/2d

VG

$3.00

1907 Panama 1/2 Centisimo KM6

BU$12.001882 Mexico 2 Centavos KM395

AU

$3.00

Lot of Mexico coinUNC

muy bonita Viejo

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M in u t es of t h e ICC M eet in g on Ju n e 17, 2024
Open - The meeting was held at the Northside Events and Social Club, 2100 E. 71 St., Indianapolis,
Indiana, which was called to order at 7:01 p.m. by ICC President Sharon Bower. The At t en dan ce
Pr ize was a 1922-S Morgan dollar donated by Craig Johnson. There were 28 people in attendance.
The Secr et ar y 's Repor t for May 2024 was accepted as published in the Planchet, by a duly mademotion that was seconded and passed by the membership. The Tr easu r er 's Repor t for May 2024
was accepted as published in the Planchet, by a duly made motion that was seconded and passedby the membership.
Visit or s? There were three visitors at this meeting, and one visitor from last month?s meeting joined
the Club today.
Repor t s of Com m it t ees? There were no reports from any of the committees.
Old Bu sin ess? There was no old business that was reported on.
New Bu sin ess? As announced last month, Chris Bower is resigning as editor of The Planchet andthat we will need candidates for that position in our elections later this year. If interested in that
position or any other board positions, please notify a board member.
Nu m ism at ic Fin ds an d Not es of In t er est : Bob Nice brought in a large cent album that he recently
purchased and expressed his excitement in collecting this series. The knowledge and history gainedin collecting any new series of coins are as satisfying as acquiring the coins and holding them inyour hands, while contemplating how many hundreds or thousands of people had used them in thepast.
Edu cat ion al Pr ogr am : William Smith gave the Educational Program talk, ?Experiences in Collecting
and Exhibiting Foreign Banknotes.? There are nearly 200 countries that are currently recognized by
the United Nations. When collecting foreign currency, this begs the question of how do you collect?
For example, would you collect only current euro currency, or also obsolete currency issued byindividual countries? Would you collect only one example from each country, or the suite ofcurrency of each denomination from each country? Would Taiwan?s current status be considered acountry for your purposes? Would banknotes, coins, or both be collected? Of course, the answer isthat the individual makes the determination of what and how to collect, to his or her liking. Mr.
Smith has collected currency from about 350 countries (including former possessions, etc.) andcurrently lacks only 18 or 19 at his point in his collecting journey. The audience asked several
thoughtful questions and were quite impressed with the depth of his collection and his enthusiasm
in undertaking this endeavor.
Au ct ion ? There were 11 sheets in today?s auction, with $11.00 going to the Club. Don Fleener was
the auctioneer for today?s meeting.
Fif t y-Fif t y Dr aw in g: The prize for the 50/50 drawing totaled $81.00, with the club receiving $41.00
and the winner $40.00. The At t en dan ce Pr ize was also awarded.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:16 p.m., and our next regular meeting will be on Monday, July 15,2024.
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Sukup, Secretary(jsukup@rpiratings.com)
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Tr easu r er 's Repor t f or Ju n e 2024:
My treasurer 's report is as follows: after the last (June) meeting, I deposited $72 into the club account. I
recently sent a check for $100 to the North Side Events Center for room rental for our July meeting. The
club currently has $25,484.83 in its checking account.

Jerry C.

$3827.44

Th e 2024 In dian apolis Coin Clu b
Of f icer s an d Boar d M em ber s:

Wildm an Coin s

President
Sharon Bower
Vice-President
Don WraySecretary
Jim Sukup
Treasurer
Gerald Coraz
Newsletter Editor
Christopher Bower
Past President
Jim Sukup
Sgt-at-Arms
Jim Warden
Board Member 2023-2024
Vinton DoveBoard Member 2023-2024
Andy Nahrwold
Board Member 2023-2024
Jim Roehrdanz
Board Member 2024-2025
Louise Boling
Board Member 2024-2025
Jeff Bercovitz
Board Member 2024-2025
Steve Howery

Christopher Bower
ANA# LM7017
Specialist in World Coins,
Tokens, and Medals

443-786-6584
ch r isb8626@m sn .com

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In dian apolis Coin Clu b
2024 M eet in g Dat es & Edu cat ion al Pr ogr am s
January 18, 2024 - ?Proposed Indiana Tax Legislation ?-by Donn Wray
* Prize sponsor: Gerald Coraz
February 19, 2024 - 'Technology for Numismatic Imaging??- by Craig Johnson* Prize sponsor: Crag Johnson
March 18, 2024 - 'Kennedy Halves' - by Gary Selig* Prize sponsor: Gary Selig
April 15, 2024 - 'Confederate Currency? - by Steve Howery* Prize sponsor: Steve Howery
May 20, 2024 - 'There is a House in New Orleans' - James Warden* Prize sponsor: James Warden
June 17, 2024 - 'Experiences in Collecting and Exhibiting Foreign Banknotes.? - by William Smith* Prize sponsor: T. B. D.
July 15, 2024 - 'The Iconic Standing Liberty Quarter ' - by James Roehrdanz* Prize sponsor: James Roehrdanz
August 19, 2024 - 'T. B. D.? - by Andy Nahrwold* Prize sponsor: Andy Nahrwold
September 16, 2024 - Exhibit Night* Prize sponsor: I. C. C.
October 21, 2024 - 'T. B. D.' - by Christopher Bower* Prize sponsor: Christopher Bower
November 18, 2024 - ?The Annual State of the Hobby Address?- Mark Eberhardt* Prize sponsor: T.B.A.
Tuesday, December 3, 2024 ? NO MEETING - I.C.C. Holiday Banquet* For 2024 we are continuing the 'Attendance Prize' drawing at each monthly meeting as an added incentive
for all I.C.C. members to attend as many meetings as possible and to encourage new membership. Everyone
attending each regular monthly meeting will receive a prize ticket when they arrive at the meeting and sign inat the greeting table. The prize each month will be a 90% silver U.S. Half Dollar (or equivalent value coin, $5 ormore) The I.C.C. Board members and officers as well as several I.C.C. members chose to act as sponsors anddonate the monthly prizes rather than funding them from our budget. You'll find the monthly prize sponsor
listed below each monthly meeting date above. You'll just have to show up to see what you may win!
Please keep this in mind each month; regardless of who is giving the monthly program and/or the topic, we owe it tothat person and the membership to remain quiet and pay attention during the program. It?s important that we
respect the knowledge that is being shared with us as well as the time and effort the speaker is donating to our club.
The same rules should apply to our monthly auctions; please remain quiet and pay attention. Thank you.

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