UNAPPROVED MINUTES OF 29th MEETING, Montreal, 16thWCNDTSunday, 29 August 2004

1.

WELCOME

The Chairman, Mr G Nardoni, welcomed everyone present. He noted that 62
countries will be represented at the World Conference (34 present at themeeting). He commented on the importance of the work of the ICNDT,
started by our predecessors in 1954 and emphasised the importance ofcontinuing to cooperate.
2.

IN MEMORIAM

The Chairman asked for a minute’s silence to remember Mr Bjarne Larsen
President of the Danish Society who had passed away since the last meeting
and also to remember all the pioneers of ICNDT who are deceased.
3.

IN ATTENDANCE

The following is a list of those present. Voting members, one per country asindicated.
Country
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Bangladesh
BelarusBelgiumBrazilCanadaChina

NameAlberto Nicolini
Tony Sonneveld
Vince Wilcox
Heinrich Thieretzbacher
Gerhard Aufricht
Mahi U Khan
P Prochorenko
V Vengrinovic
G Hennaut
Edson V Moreira
Joao Conte
Douglas Marshall
Douglas Whitely
Rong Geng ShengSocietyAAENDE
AINTVoting
11OgfZP

1BSNDT
BANTD

11BANTABENDE

11CINDE

1ChSNDT1CountryCroatia

Name
Vjera Krstelj
Ana Lypolt
Czech Republic Pavel Mazal
Denmark

Torben Lund

FranceGermany
GreeceIndia

SwedenMichel Poudrai
Rainer Link
Sotirios Vahaviolos
K Wiswanathan
V PariMichael Prendergast
A Notea
G Shoef
G Nardoni
G Gatti
M Takagi
H Hatano
Professor M Onoe
Oh-Yang Kwon
Seung-Seok Lee
John K ChegeYeo Yang Teng
Andrej L Bastar
Alfonso Garcia-Cueto
Les Dick
Ian Baggott
Rune Kristiansen
Arve Hovland
Jan Mottl
V V Klyuev
Sze Thiam Siong
Heng Keng WahJanez GrumAmanda van derWesthuizenEmilio Romero
Jesus Serrano
Claes Eriksson

Switzerland
Tunisia
UkraineG Aufricht (proxy)
Ferid Herelli
V Troitskij

UnitedKingdom

Ed Newton
Matt Gallagher
Mike Farley
Silvia Infanzon

IrelandIsraelItaly
JapanKorea
Kenya
Malaysis
MexicoNew Zealand
NorwayPolandRussiaSingapore
Slovenia
South Africa
Spain

UruguaySociety
CrSNDT

Voting1Czech Society for
NDT
The Danish Society
for NDT
COFREND
DGZfP
HSNT
Indian Society for
NDT
IIWEI
Israeli Society for
NDT
AIPnD

111111111JSNDI

1KSNT

1KNDTMSNT11NZNDTA

1NSNDT1SIMP
RSNTTD
Singapore Welding
SocietySSNDTSouth African
Institute for NDT
AEND

111

Swedish Society for
NDT
SGZP
COTEND
Ukrainian Society for
NDT
BINDT

1111AENDUR

11111CountryUSA

Name
Wayne Holliday
Joe Mackin

SocietyASNT

Voting
1

The following guests were welcomed:
Dr R Murphy
Dr Hatano
Dr Isaac Einav
Al Broz

ISO TC 135 SC7 Chair
ISO TC 135 Secretary
IAEA
FAA

Apologies for absence were received from Dr Baldev Raj.
4.

PROCEDURES FOR VOTING, QUORUMThe General Secretary advised that each Member Society has one vote.
Additionally the following proxies were announced:
Australia for Pakistan (specific proxy for World Conference ballot)
Austria for Switzerland (general)
5.

MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING (28th Meeting, Barcelona,Thursday 20 June 2002)

The minutes were approved.
6.

ICNDT AWARDS, HONORARY MEMBERSHIP, ELECTION OF
ICNDT OFFICERS – announcement and confirmation ofnominations

6.1

ICNDT Awards

The winners were announced to the meeting as follows:
Roentgen Award:
Pawlowski Award:
Education, Training andCertification:
Sokolov Award
Young Achiever:
6.2

Research Institute of Introscopy of JSC MSIA"Spectrum"
Mr Giuseppe Nardoni
Mr John Zirnhelt
Dr Baldev Raj
Mr Amish Kumar

Honorary Members

Following discussion with the Policy and General Purposes Committee, MrNardoni proposed the following to become Honorary Members:
Mr Douglas Marshall, Canada
Dr Sotirios Vahaviolos, USA

Professor Guo, China
Mr H Thieretzbacher, Austria
Mr Ferid Herelli, Tunisia
These nominations were agreed unanimously.
6.3

Nominations for ICNDT Officers

Dr Farley presented a list of the candidates for the elections to be held at the30th Meeting.
7.

REPORT ON ICNDT 2000-2004

Dr Farley presented a report on the activities of ICNDT during the previous
four years. A copy is appended to the Minutes.
It was agreed to delay the report on WG3 Research and Education to the 30thmeeting.
Recommendations by Professor Onoe on the improvement of the Website
and use of the internet will be implemented by the new Executive.
The report on the expenditure on behalf of ICNDT by the Italian Society for
NDT was noted. Mr Aufricht confirmed that the expenditure had beencorrectly incurred on the pursuit of the objectives of ICNDT. The total
expenditure greatly exceeded the Italian Society’s commitment of 25% of thesurplus from the 15th WCNDT. Mike Farley expressed the thanks of ICNDTto the Italian Society and advised that there would be a more publicacknowledgment during the Opening Ceremony. Mr Gatti (AIPnD)
responded, stating that the Italian Society had made its investment because it
was convinced of the importance of the work of ICNDT. It is important that
this work continues.
8.

PRESENTATION OF INCOME/EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR
2004/08

The budget (appended to the Minutes) was accepted and the new Executive
were actioned to divide tasks among the Societies who are volunteering
support following the elections.
There was general discussion around the need to incorporate ICNDT as alegal entity and to levy membership fees. The following proposal was passed
unanimously:“ICNDT request the Executive to prepare detailed proposals forincorporation of ICNDT as a legal entity to be presented for approval atthe 31st ICNDT Meeting in Berlin.”
It was reported that PGP were also considering asking for donations fromcommercial sponsors.

9.

MEMBERSHIP

Douglas Marshall advised that the applications of four new members areendorsed by the PGP following review by the Membership Chairman. Theseare:
Malaysian Society for NDTSingapore Society for NDTATND Association on Nondestructive Testing of Moldavia
LatviaThese applications were approved unanimously.
The application of the African regional group AFNDT for recognition as aregional/continental group in ICNDT was approved unanimously. Mr F Herelli(Tunisia COTEND) was thanked for his efforts and IAEA for its support.
Douglas Marshall stated that consideration should be given to how to bringsmaller NDT societies or groups in the process of forming Societies intoICNDT.
10.

COMMENTS BY NATIONAL SOCIETIES

Several societies reported conferences/meetings being planned and it wasagreed that details should be sent to the ICNDT and EFNDT Secretariats
and they will be posted on the respective Websites. The Executive wasrequested to set up links between the various calendars.
Joao Conte announced that ABENDE is 25 years old this year. The society
has been accredited by the Brazilian national standards organisation as its
sectoral body for NDT.
Tony Sonneveld advised that AINDT celebrated 40 years and has a newExecutive Officer, Dave Barnett. The Institute has published a book “Historyof NDT in Australia”.
Mr Yeo Yang Teng of Malaysia (new member) mentioned the difficulties thatdeveloping countries have in trying to establish NDT training and certificationin their own languages. ICNDT should help more! Dr Link mentioned thepossibility of a question bank being available from EFNDT. Mr John
Thompson advised that there will be further discussions during the NDTCertification 2004 Conference in Manchester, UK in November.
Professor Notea of Israel described an initiative, jointly with the Institute ofRestoration in Rome on the antiquities of Jerusalem. There will be a meetingon NDT of ancient buildings, tunnels and works of art which ICNDT will beasked to sponsor. Dr Venkatraman of India stated that ICNDT WG3
recognises the importance of NDT in this area and plans the preparation of asmall monograph on the topic.

Professor Vjera Krstelj of Croatia advised the meeting of the work of theEFNDT Working Group on Anti-Personnel Mine Detection and invited ICNDT
members to participate in a meeting during the 16th WCNDT.
All Societies were asked to send details of meetings by e-mail to theSecretariat for publication in the ICNDT’s calendar which in future will belinked to EFNDT’s.
11.

REGIONAL REPORTS

11.1

Asia Pacific (APCNDT)Les Dick introduced himself as the new Chairman and advised that New
Zealand will host the 12th Asia Pacific NDT Conference in Auckland, 5-10
November 2005. A meeting of the APCNDT will be held during the week of
the 16th WCNDT.
11.2

Pan-Americas (PANNDT)

Joao Conte confirmed that he and Mr Wayne Holliday are the nominatedrepresentatives. A meeting of the committee will be held during the 17thWCNDT.
The next conference will be in 2007 in Buenos Aires.
11.3

Europe (EFNDT)Mike Farley advised that EFNDT was healthy with 27 members. He had
become President in 2003 for three years and BINDT had taken over theSecretariat for the same period. A new Strategic Plan has been established,details are on www.efndt.org. EFNDT is continuing to develop its Mutual
Recognition Agreement for Personnel Certification and has opened this tocountries outside Europe.
11.4

AfricaMr Herelli reported on the formation of the AFNDT Federation with Professor
Mahmoud Schaffai as Chairman. There are presently four member societiesof ICNDT in Africa and contacts have been established in a total of 17 Africancountries. A newspaper has been published and circulated at the 16th
WCNDT. Valuable assistance is being provided by IAEA. A Regional
conference is planned for February 2006 in Cairo, Egypt.
12.

WORLD CONFERENCES

12.1

Montreal 16th WCNDTDouglas Marshall WCNDT President and Douglas Whitely (WCNDTChairman) were congratulated on the arrangements for the 16th WCNDT.
The following statistics were advised to the meeting:Number of Registrations
Exhibiting companies
Exhibition area
Abstracts received
Abstracts accepted
Premier sponsors

2127 (attendees and exhibitors)
160
27500 sq.ft. (approx. 2700 sq.m.)
740
400 for Oral presentation, 28 specialpresentations, 164 posters
7

Douglas Marshall expressed thanks for the Organising Committee with a
special mention of Dr Jean Bussierre who had prepared the Scientific
Programme. A scanning device at the doors of each room will allow recordingof attendance in each technical session and individuals will be able to print outa personalised record of attendance suitable for use in Certification
Continuous Education/records.
12.2

Shanghai 17th WCNDTPresentation delayed to 30th Meeting.
12.3

18th WCNDT, 2012

Presentations were made by Tony Sonneveld of the Australian Institute ofNDT, Matt Gallagher of the British Institute of NDT and Amanda van derWesthuizen of the South African Institute of NDT. Members were remindedthat the ballot would be held at the 30th Meeting.
13.

EXTERNAL LIAISON

13.1

IAEA

Dr Isaac Einav (NDT Technical Officer) gave an excellent presentation on theactivities of the IAEA in the field of NDT. The objectives which exactly
complement those of ICNDT are:••••Promotion of NDT Technology to Member States
Developing new nuclear technology for NDT (CRP)
Supporting ISO9712
Promotion of international harmonisation for training and certification
of NDT personnel• Assistance in establishing national accreditation and Certifying
Bodies• Encourage to establishing professional NDT societies• Strengthening the cooperation with ICNDTThese objectives are achieved through Coordinated Research Projects, IAEA
publications and Technical Coordination, focused on developing countries.
There is currently a strong interest in West Asia. More emphasis will beplaced in 2005 on introducing advanced technologies with a continuation ofwork on training and certification of personnel. It is hoped to strengthen
cooperation with ICNDT.

13.2

ISO TC135 Non Destructive Testing

Mr Nardoni welcomed Dr Takagi (Chairman of TC135) and Dr Hatano(Secretary of TC135) and emphasised the important cooperation between
ICNDT and ISO. A short presentation by Dr Takagi was given on theactivities of TC135 with the emphasis on SC7 (Personnel Certification/ISO9712) and the SC7 WG (Performance Based Certification) which had met inMontreal. Discussion is underway on how to clarify the overlap/dividing point
between ISO 9712 (TC135) and ISO 11484 (TC ) which is primarily for steel
tubes but being considered for extension to all steel products.
13.3 Mr Alfred Broz of the FAA thanked ICNDT for inviting him to themeeting as an observer. He continues to follow and support the work ofICNDT with interest.
14.

OPENING CEREMONY

The meeting was completed by Douglas Marshall giving instructions for theOpening Ceremony and inviting members to an International Committee
reception, kindly hosted by the Australian Institute of NDT.

Minutes prepared by
Dr J M Farley
September 2004