MINUTES OF 27th MEETING, Rome 15th WCNDT
Thursday 19 October 2000
WELCOME
President Nardoni welcomed all the participants to the meeting.

ATTENDANCEARGENTINA

Maria Isabel Lopez Pumarega

NDT Department, CNEA

AUSTRALIAJohn Maccarone

Federal President
Australian Institute for NDT
Honorary Member
Australian Institute for NDT

Tony Sonneveld
AUSTRIA

Heinrich Theiretzbacher
Gerhard Aufricht

Chairman of Certification Board
OGzfP
Vice-President
OGzfP

BANGLADESH

Mahi U Khan

General Secretary
Bangladesh Society for NonDestructive Testing (BSNDT)BELARUS

Zemfira Nikiforova

President
Belorussian Association on NDT and
Technical Diagnostics (BANDT)BANDTY Stabrovskaia
BELGIUM

Frederic Carpentier
Martine Wevers

BRAZILMaria Isabel Gebrael
Joao Conte

Secretary of Certification Office
BANT
BANT
President
Abende (Associacao Brasileira de
Ensaios nao Destrutivos
Executive Director
ABENDEBULGARIA

Aleksander Skordev

President
Bulgarian Society for NDTCANADA

Douglas J MarshallManaging Director
Canadian Institute for Nondestructive
Testing (CINDE)
President Membership
CINDE

Douglas Whitely
CHINA

Rong Sheng Geng

President
Chinese Society for Non-Destructive
Testing

COLOMBIA

Carlos Vitez

Representative of Colombian NDTSociety which is to be set up

CROATIA

Vjera Krstelj

President
Croatian NDT Society (CrSNDT)CZECHREPUBLIC

Jaroslav Obraz

President
Czech Society for NDT (CNDT)Vice President
CNDT

Josef Sikula
DENMARK

Bjarne Larsen

President
Danish Society for NDTFRANCE

Michel Poudrai

Permanent Secretary
COFRENDGERMANY

Hans Aisenbrey

President
DGzfP
Vice-President, Managing Director
and Member of the Board
DGzfPDr Rainer Link

HELLAS

Prassionakis Ioannis

President
Hellenic Society of NonDestructive
Testing (HSNT)HUNGARY

Ferenc Fücsök

ChairmanOrganisation of Non-destructive
Testing Scientific Society ofMechanical Engineering

INDIA

Dr Baldev Raj

President
Indian Society of NDTIRAN

K Mahzoon

ISRAELG Shoef

ISRANDTITALYG Nardoni

President
AIPnD

JAPANM Takagi
Morio Onoe

JSNDI
JSNDI

JORDAN

Issa Qandah

Jordan Air Motive NDT-Met Dept
(Dept. Head)KENYAJohn K ChegeNDT Society of Kenya

KOREA

Kyoo Kun Koh

President
Korean Society for NonDestructive
Testing (KSNT)
Vice-President
KSNT

Oh-Yang Kwon
Libyia*LITHUANIA

Saadoun Eswihli
R KazysCentre for Advanced Technology
Lithuanian NDTNETHERLANDS

Hans Boogaard

President
KINT

NIGERIA*Pakistan*
POLAND

Ralph Davies
Asghar KhanJan S Mottl

Nigerian NDT Society
IAEA (proxy from Pakistan Society)
President
Polish Society for NDT and Technical
Diagnostics - SIMPRUSSIA

Vladimir Klyuev

President
RSNDTTDSLOVAKIA

Pavel Gabriška

Vice-President
Slovak Society for Nondestructive
Testing (SSNDT)SLOVENIA*

Janez Grum

President
Slovenian Society for NDT

SOUTH AFRICA

Alain Clavier

Immediate Past President
South African Institute of NDT(SAINT)SPAIN

Emilio Romero

President
AEND (Asociacion Espanola deEnsayos no Destructivos)

SWITZERLAND

Thomas Luthi

President
Swiss Society for Nondestructive
Testing, SGZPTAIWAN

Tsung-Tsong Wu

Executive Board Member
SNTCTTUNISIA

Kaab Bougherra
Mohamed Ben Abdallah
Ferid Herrelli

COTEND
COTEND
COTEND

TURKEYC Hakan Gűr

Vice-Chairman
NDT Committee - Chamber ofMetallurgical Engineers of Turkey

UKRAINE

Vladimir Troitskij
Andrey Shekero

USNDT
USNDT

UNITED
KINGDOM

M Gallagher

Secretary
British Institute of NDTPresident
British Institute of NDTHonorary Secretary
British Institute of NDTP Mudge
J M Farley
URUGUAY*Silvia Infansón

President
AENDUR (Asociacion Uruguaya de
Ensayos No Destructivos)

USA

Robert Doggart

ASNT

VENEZUELA* New Member

Carlos Gonzalez

ASOVEND, Venezuela

MEMBERSHIP WORKING GROUP
Douglas Marshall (Chairman) presented a report from his Working Group. This had beenpreviously endorsed by the PGP. It was agreed unanimously that the Societies listed below
be admitted to full membership:
Ireland
Libya
Nigeria
Pakistan
Slovenia
Uruguay

Irish Institute of Welding & Engineering Inspection (not present @ meeting)
Libya Society for Nondestructive Testing (not present @ meeting)Nigerian NDT Society
Pakistan Society for Nondestructive Testing
Slovak Society for Nondestructive Testing
Uruguay Association for Nondestructive Testing

It was further agreed that Sri Lanka would be admitted once the Membership Chairman was
satisfied of the not-for-profit nature of the applicant society.
The committee indicated changes to its Terms of Reference that should be consideredduring the fine-tuning of the Constitution:1.3

Should present results at second full ICNDT meeting of each conference

1.6

The group should have the option of arranging a postal ballot

ELECTION OF ICNDT OFFICERS
Due to the involvement of Mr Nardoni, Dr Farley and Dr Vahaviolos as candidates, DrBaldev Raj took over Chairmanship of the meeting Dr Vahaviolos transferred his vote to Mr
Doggart , Douglas Marshall to Doug Whitely and Dr Farley his vote to Mr Mudge.
Professor Onoe and Mr Boogaard were appointed as Tellers for the voting.
Mr Doggart sought clarification of the procedures to be used for voting. It was agreed
unanimously to adopt a secret ballot for each election where voting was required and to holdthe four elections (Chairman, Secretary, P&GP and Secretariat) in sequence. The
representative for Canada, Doug Whitely advised that Douglas Marshall no longer wished tostand for the position of General Secretary.
Chairman of ICNDT:
41 valid votes cast, 28 for Mr Nardoni, 12 for Mr Marshall, 1 spoiled. Mr Nardoni declared
duly elected by Dr Baldev Raj.
General Secretary:
Mr Marshall announced that he no longer wished to stand for election.
In the absence of other candidates Dr Baldev Raj declared Dr Mike Farley duly elected.
Policy and General Purposes Committee (2 representatives from ICNDT):
A maximum of two votes were available to each of 41 voting delegates. 41 x 2 valid votes
were cast as follows:
Dr LinkDr Vahaviolos
Mr Sonneveld

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17Dr Link and Dr Vahaviolos were announced as duly elected by Dr Baldev Raj.
Secretariat:
Votes were cast as follows:
Italy
Canada25
15Dr Baldev Raj announced that the Italian NDT Society was duly elected to provide theSecretariat to the ICNDT and its committees (excluding the World Conference) for the next
four years.
ICNDT Fund:In the absence of other nominations the Austria NDT Society was elected to hold the ICNDTFund when the necessary procedures are established. The election of an ICNDT Trustee
was postponed.

Honorary Member:
The proposal of Mr Aufricht (Austria) for Honorary Membership by Mr Nardoni and Dr Baldev
Raj was carried with one abstention.
Professor Onoe and Mr Boogaard were duly thanked and Mr Nardoni expressed his
pleasure at taking on the new and important post of ICNDT Chairman.
Discussion followed on the nomination of representatives of Regional/ContinentalGroupings. This is the responsibility of these groups. In response to a question Mr Nardoni
advised that representatives would be invited to the PGP from the proposed ‘Africa’continental group once this was properly constituted, following the IAEA initiative.
The European Federation (EFNDT) had met on 18 October 2000 and elected Mr Roche(President) and Dr Link (Member, Board of Directors) as its nominees.

REPORT ON 15TH WORLD CONFERENCEMr Nardoni and Mr Gatti will prepare and publish conference accounts in due course. There
had been 2144 people present at the conference up to Thursday, comprising 640 full fee
participants, 147 students, 21 in discounted fees, 186 accompanying persons, 362 othervisitors to the exhibition, 58 invited persons and 730 Exhibitors and staff (from 100 Exhibitingcompanies).
The “Major Sponsor” was Agfa and there were seven other “Exclusive Sponsors”: Gilardoni,ICIM, COFAR, RTD, MDS Nordon, CGM and NDT-net who have been responsible for theConference Proceedings, provided for the first time as a Compact Disc with the benefits offull colour.
In broad financial terms Mr Nardoni stated that the Italian Society had spent about 60,000$
in four years on computers, software, two part-time staff, publication of the ICNDT Journaland travel/expenses.
The balance of the income vs expenditure of the conference isexpected to be about 100,000$.
ACTIVITIES OF WORKING GROUPSWG1 CERTIFICATION HARMONISATION - Dr M Farley
The Task Group led by Mr Aufricht on Update of ICNDT Recommendation Document
ICNDT-WH-85 Rev.01 has completed its work. It was agreed unanimously that thedocument should be forwarded as a Draft for CENT-TC 138 and ISO TC 135 with a requestthat the two committees consider it jointly. Mr Aufricht’s Task Group will remain available tosupport this initiative and pass on comments from ICNDT.
On a proposal by USA, seconded by the Netherlands it was agreed unanimously to form
three new Task Groups each focused on key issues/recommendations arising from theICNDT Seminar on ISO9712. These Task Groups are:-Recognition of ISO9712 by ASME
Recognition of ISO9712 in Europe
Specific of Test Specimens and Required Performance in Practical Examinations

Representation of volunteers to serve on the Task Groups will be sought by e-mail.

WG2 ICNDT INTERNET COMMUNICATIONS - Professor M Onoe
Dr Farley explained that in future e-mail would be the main method of communication andthe Web Site ‘ICNDTnet-Internet for ICNDT’ would be used to make all documents andminutes available.
The report prepared by Professor Onoe and his Working Group was approved for
implementation by the Secretariat. Professor Onoe kindly offered to continue to manage hisown Web Site but recommended that to improve public accessibility the Secretariat should
set up ICNDT.org with a link to his ICNDT site at:
http://www.ricoh.co.jp/net-messena/NDTWW/INTERN/ICNDT.html
Mr Nardoni agreed this would be done soon.
WG3 Research and University Education Working GroupIt was agreed unanimously to establish a new Working Group led by Dr Baldev Raj withobjectives, to be defined by the group, including liaison with the World Federation of NDTCentres and other similar networks. The members will be Dr Baldev Raj, Dr Klyuev, Dr
Vahaviolos, Dr Link and Dr Guo.
Mr Khan (IAEA) advised that a Syllabus and training materials for course on NDT for
Engineers have been prepared by IAEA and are available on request.
DEVELOPMENT OF OPERATING PROCEDURES AND RULES
On a proposal by Mr Doggart, seconded by Mr Sonneveld it was agreed to establish a Task
Group made up of Douglas Marshall, Dr Baldev Raj, Dr Vahaviolos, Dr Klyuev to develop
Operating Procedures and Rules to complement the Constitution and Terms of Reference tocover:•••••Membership
ICNDT FundWorld Conference
Honorary Membership and Awards
Approval of External Communications

Fine Tuning of Constitution and Terms of Reference
On a proposal by Mr Doggart seconded by Mr Aufricht it was agreed unanimously to request
the General Secretary to issue a timetabled plan to the full ICNDT covering the process for:•••••Receipt of comments
Circulation of commentsDiscussion and review
Presentation of proposals
Vote to approve

TIMETABLE OF MEETINGS
The next full ICNDT meeting will be held during the course of the European Conference on
NDT in Barcelona, Spain, June 2002 and the following one in Montreal in August 2004.
PGP meetings (one per year) will be held in Brisbane (September 2001) and Barcelona(June 2002). The decision on locations for 2003 and 2004 was postponed.

ANY OTHER BUSINESS(i)Dr Rong Sheng Geng, President of the Chinese NDT Society suggested that ICNDT
should use the banners of the individual NDT Societies rather than the flags ofcountries(ii)

Mr Doggart, President of ASNT advised that he had abstained in the vote for
Honorary Member because he was not clear if the correct procedure had been
followed. Mr Nardoni replied saying that ICNDT procedures, used through all 27
meetings, had always been on the principle of seeking consensus and common
goals and had served the organisation well.

Should Nardoni’s proposal to change the Closing Ceremonies be addressed as it wasdiscussed at the meeting? I real don’t see a need by does Parlimentary Rules
indicate all topics be recorded..

CLOSING OF MEETING AND WORLD CONFERENCEMr Nardoni thanked participants for their attendance and reminded everyone to attend theclosing ceremony.
Minutes prepared by Dr J M Farley - ICNDT General Secretary