UNAPPROVED MINUTES OF 31st MEETING of ICNDT, Berlin,during the 9th ECNDTSunday, September 24, 2006
1.

WELCOMED. Marshall welcomed the attendees. R. Link provided and intro from theGerman Society.
D. Marshall thanked the members of the Executive Committee and PGP
Committee for their dedication via continued activity via electroniccommunications, teleconferencing and conference attendance.
D. Marshall provided a thank you to the continued cooperation between theBritish Institute for NDT, for production of the ICNDT Journal; the German
Society for production of the ICNDT website, the Canadian Institute for NDE
for the Secretariat.
2.

ATTENDANCECountry

Delegates

Society

VotingAustralia

A. Sonneveld

AINDT

1Austria

G. Aufricht
G. Balias

OgfZP

1Belgium

F. Carpentier

BANDT

1BrazilJ. Conte
P. Feresfilho

ABENDE

1

Bulgaria

M. Mihovski

Bulgarian Society for
NDT

1CanadaJ. Zirnhelt
D. Marshall

Canadian Institute for
NDT

1

Croatia

R. Link (Proxy)

CrSNDT

1

Czech Republic

P. Mazal

CNDT

1

Denmark

T. LundDanish Society for
NDT

1FinlandJ. Sillanpaa

Finnish NDTCommittee

1France

M. Poudrai

COFREND1Germany

J. Volker

DGZfP

1

GreeceT. Vahaviolos

Hellenic Society ofNDT

1

Hungary

F. Fucsok

HONDT

India

S.I. Sanklecha

Indian Society for NDT 1

Italy

G. Nardoni
Gittardi
Tuberosa
Gaheva
Gatti

AIPnD

1JapanM. Kato

JSNDI

1

Malaysia

Yeo Yan-Teng
A. Bastar

MSNT

1

MexicoA. Garcia Cueto

PolandG. Wisniewski

SIMPS

1

Romania

S. Adrian

AROEND

1

RussiaV. Kluyev
I. Pushkina
Boris Artemiev

Russian Society for
NDT and Technical
Diagnostics

11Country

Delegates

Society

VotingSlovenia

J. Grum

SSNDT

1

Spain

E. Romero
J. Serrano

AEND

1Switzerland

R. Klieber

SGZP

1Tunisia

F. Herelli

COTEND

1United Kingdom

T. Woolridge
M. Farley

BINDT

1USAW. Holliday
M. Trimm

ASNT

1Twenty-seven members were present.
PROCEDURES FOR VOTING, QUORUMThe General Secretary reminded members of the procedure for voting. One
voting delegate per member society. 33% of membership was required forquorum and only 1 proxy was permitted per member country present. A
simple majority was required. Germany announced it had a general proxy forCroatia.
3.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF 29TH AND 30TH MEETINGS IN
MONTREAL, 2004

T. Sonneveld motioned for approval of the minutes of the 29th and 30th ICNDTmeetings, seconded by G. Aufricht. Minutes were approved as written.
4.

REPORT BY MEMBERSHIP WORKING GROUP

T. Sonneveld reported to the ICNDT Committee that six countries haveapplications pending for membership on the ICNDT. These include Sudan,Serbia, Lithuania, Vietnam, Columbia and Mexico. Following the validation ofthe PGP Committee it was recommended that Serbia, Sudan and Lithuania
be accepted by the ICNDT as full members. All ICNDT members were infavour. Still being considered:(i)Colombian Welding and Testing Society(ii)

Vietnam Society for NDTThe Society had contacted the Secretariat prior to the World
Conference requesting membership, but have as of yet failed tosubmit the requested paperwork.

(iii)

MexicoUnder the current constitution, only one member per country will beconsidered valid. Currently the member from Mexico is IMENDE.
Further follow-up is required.

T. Sonneveld developed a new Membership Operating Procedure which stillrequires a revision to include the processing of membership applications for a
3 month turn around rather than 4 years. The revision will include theprovision for applications to be approved based on a recommendation from aRegional Group.
Action: T. Sonneveld – revise operating procedure- IMENDE membership application
5.

APPROVAL OF NEW CONSTITUTION

See Legal Incorporation, item #6.
6.

LEGAL INCORPORATION

M. Farley presented an overview of the history and progress with regards tothe legal incorporation of ICNDT (Appendix A). After validation by the
Executive Committee and PGP Committee, M. Farley put forward the motion
as follows:
1. The members of the International Committee for NDT authorise theExecutive Committee of ICNDT to proceed with the legal incorporation ofICNDT as a non-profit Association under Austrian law, registered inVienna, on the basis of the Constitution. (Draft of legalised constitution
issued 16 May 2006 for postal ballot, approved by 32 members out of 50,none against.)
2. The first General Assembly of the new legally incorporated association will
be held in Shanghai during the 17th WCNDT, 2008.
•All existing members remain full members until the General
Assembly.

3. Further refinements to the Constitution may be proposed by themembership up to the end of 2007. These will include: (i) note inpreamble that ‘he’ = ‘he or she’.
This will continue the progress of the legal incorporation of the ICNDT leaving
members to continue to review and comment on the proposed constitution
until the end of 2007. This will still allow for the final approval/adoption to takeplace prior to the next General Assembly meeting to be held in China 2008.
Members voted to approve this motion by a show of hands with 27 votes infavour, 0 against, 0 abstentions.
Action: ICNDT members to review and comment

7.

STRATEGIC PLAN

D. Marshall and M. Farley presented details on the strategic plan for theICNDT to include completion of the Legal Incorporation of the ICNDT,
updating of the Terms of Reference, Review of Working Group objectives,
establishing formal liaisons with related NDT Associations/Organizations, andincreasing membership. Further activities will be addressed based onrecommendations of the ICNDT membership.
8.

FINANCESG Aufricht reported on a donation of $25,000 which is currently being held intrust by the Canadian Institute for NDE to be transferred to the ICNDT uponcompletion of the Legal Incorporation of the ICNDT. Current financial
obligations include the production of the ICNDT Journal and the maintenanceof the ICNDT Website which are currently being supported by the resourcesof the Germany Society for NDT (DGZfP) and the British Society of NDT(BINDT).
Action: G. Aufricht/D. Marshall – transfer of donation
An Ad hoc committee will be established to propose a budget to consist ofnormal operating expenses which will be brought forward at the next General
Assembly meeting in China 2008.
Action: D. Marshall/G. Aufricht – establish Ad Hoc Committee
9.

WORLD CONFERENCES

The accounts for the 16th WCNDT are now closed. In summary a surplus of$100,000 was reported with 25% being held in trust as a donation to bepassed on to the ICNDT upon legal incorporation.
A meeting/visit will be setup between D. Marshall and R.S. Geng to discuss
the planning of the 17th WCNDT which will be held in Shanghai, China 2008.
All information received during this meeting will be forward to the General
Assembly.
Action: D. Marshall – meeting with R.S. Geng
The 18th WCNDT is scheduled to be held in Dubai, South Africa. No report
was available at this meeting but further information will be sought as theprimary organizer has resigned due to health issues.
Action: D. Marshall

10.

CHAIRMAN’S REPORTAll Chairman’s reports were provided under the relevant topic on the agenda.
11.

REPORT FROMCOMMITTEETHE

POLICYAND

GENERALPURPOSEM. Farley provided an update of the activities since the last General Assembly
meeting held in Montreal 2004 (appendix B). The PGP Committee has meton three occasions since the last General Assembly meeting, and future
meetings will be held during the 12th APCNDT, 4th PANNDT and the 17thWCNDT. Recognition and thanks where given for the contributions provided
by the Canadian Institute for NDE (CINDE), the British Institute for NDE(BINDT), and the German Society of NDT (DGZfP) for the publication of boththe ICNDT Journal and Website.
R. Link reviewed the new ICNDT website and its features. All member
countries were encouraged to include a link from their websites to the ICNDTwebsite and journal. The new website has potential/features to allow for
efficient communication between committees, membership. Passwords will
be issued in the near future to all member Society’s to allow access to thesefeatures.
Action: S. Bond – assign passwords to all ICNDT members
The PGP Committee has reviewed and approved all operating procedures,
which includes a new procedure for membership. All Operating Procedures
have been posted to the ICNDT website.
12.

REPORT FROM REGIONAL GROUPS

Pan American GroupJ. Conte provided an update on the events which have occurred with in thePan American Region.
• IRAM from Argentina was accredited as a Certifying Body by theNatioanl Argentine Accreditation Body according to ISO 17024, inconformance to ISO 9712.
• ABENDE (Brazil) and IRAM signed an agreement for MutualCertification Recognition.
• The Mercosul Standardization Committee approved 12 new NDTstandards in various methods.
• ABENDE and AAENDE (Argentina) signed a cooperation agreement tosupport other countries in the Latin American region in developing
National Scheme’s on Qualification and Certification of NDT Personnel.

Asia Pacific Regional GroupT. Sonneveld provided an update on the next Asia Pacific Conference which
will be held in Auckland, New Zealand November 2006. Along with theconference, a National Coordinators Meeting has been arranged inconjunction with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), ICNDT PGP
Committee meeting and APCNDT meetings will all be held prior to theconference.
AFRA Regional GroupF. Herelli reported on the success of the African Regional Conference andExhibition held in Cairo, Egypt February 2006. Over 200 participants
registered for the conference.
During the conference a collaborationagreement was signed between the AFRA Region and the EFNDT. The next
African Regional Conference and Exhibition will be held in 2009, Tunisia.
European Regional GroupM. Farley updated the General Assembly on the many activities taking place
within the EFNDT, including an update on the ECNDT and the Strategic Planof the EFNDT (appendix B). E. Romero provided the Committee with anupdate on the Leonardo project (collaboration for training of NDT Personnel)
which will provide training material for both trainers and students 4 languages.
A new NDT Promotion Video is being prepared by the British Institute for NDEand will be available in approximately 3 months. M. Poudrai reported on thecompletion and availability of a question data bank which is available fromEFNDT. The question bank is currently two years old and costs to purchasedo not include maintenance or updates. Applicants for purchase of thequestion bank must have approval from EFNDT via accreditation. TheCommittee discussed the need to have harmonization within the NDT
community to establish and share a question bank of the same level ofdifficulty. EFNDT will be discussing the issue of making the question bankmore accessible. This item will be brought forward at the next meeting of theGeneral Assembly.
Action: M. Farley – accessibility of question bank
R. Link provided a summary of the success of the ECNDT. 1548 participants
registered for the conference with 116 technical sessions scheduled and 100exhibitors. R. Link provided members with a summary of the conference
schedule which included, opening ceremonies, technical sessions, poster
session, gala evening, classical concert, and exhibition. A new item which
was included with the registration was full access to public transportation.
13.

REPORT ON WORKING GROUPS

WG1
M. Farley has resigned as Chair for the Certification Committee. J. Thompson
has agreed to take over the position. A new list of objectives has beendrafted along with a list of potential members (appendix C & D) which will becirculated for comments and suggestions to the members of the ICNDTGeneral Assembly. Deadline for completion of action plan is tentatively set for
November 2006, PGP Committee meeting, Auckland, New Zealand.
Action: S. Bond
Following a lengthy discussion amongst the General Assembly, D. Marshallsuggested that the issue of a harmonized question bank become WG 1’s firstpriority. It was noted that rather than making this issue a priority, allobjectives should be reviewed and prioritized.
Action: D. Marshall
WG3
B Venkatraman, on behalf of B. Raj, provided the Committee with an overview
of the objectives of WG3 (appendix E).
Action: B. Raj
M. Farley– Working Group membership list to be circulated- Develop an action plan and terms of reference

14. QUESTIONS FROM ICNDT MEMBERSHIPISO TC-138
R. Murphy provided the Committee with an overview of Technical Committee
138 and the barriers which have occurred in the acceptance of ISO 9712 byCEN. Discussion on ICNDT’s position took place noting that ICNDT should
be promoting international harmonization. Y-T Yeo (Malaysia) motioned thata letter from ICNDT supporting ISO 9712 and expressing the disappointmentthat CEN did not adopt it should be sent to both organizations. This motion
was seconded by G. Nardoni. The motion was carried after a vote with thefollowing results:
15 votes for1 vote against
5 abstentions
Action: D.Marshall/M. Farley/W. Holliday - draft letter
15.

OTHER BUSINESS

M. Kato provided an interesting presentation on “Age Structures of QualifiedPersonnel” a summarization of certification of NDT personnel in Japan. This
presentation was in response from communication regarding the potential
shortage of NDT personnel within the next several years (appendix F).