UNAPPROVED MINUTES OF 28th MEETING, Barcelona 8th ECNDTThursday 20 June 2002
1.

WELCOME

Chairman Mr G Nardoni greeted everyone present.
He noted that 55 countries wererepresented in the European Conference (32 at the ICNDT meeting). He commented on
the growth of the NDT profession through innovation and thanked Spain for organising theconference and the excellent facilities for the meeting. He extended a particular welcome toRick Murphy (ISO TC135 SC7) and Isaac Einav (IAEA) and to the representatives fromcountries not yet members of ICNDT.

2.

ATTENDANCE

The following is a list of those present.
indicated.

Voting members, one per member country asCountry

NameSociety

Voting

ALGERIA

Faurouz Bettayeb

CSC-ARGENTINA (M)Eisa Hogert
Mario Armette

ENDE-CAC-CNEA

9-

AUSTRIA (M)Gerhard Aufricht
Heinrich
Theiretzbacher

Austrian Society for NDT(OGfZP)

9BANGLADESH

Mahi U KhanBSNDT

9BRAZILMaria Izabel Gebrael
Joao Antonio Conte
Jose S R Jinier

ABENDE

9-

CANADA

Douglas Marshall
Douglas Whitely
Richard V Murphy

CINDE
ISO

9-CROATIA

Ana Lypolt

CrSNDT

9CZECH REPUBLICPavel Mazal

CNDT

91DENMARK

Bjarne Larsen

Danish Society for NDT

9FRANCE

Michael Poudrai

COFREND

9GERMANY

Rainer Link

DGzfP

9GREECE

Ioannis Prassianakis

Hellenic Society of NDT

9HUNGARY

Ferenc Fucsok

Scientific Society of Mech. Eng
Org. of NDT

9INDIADr Baldev Raj

Indian Society for NDT

9IRAN

Kamal Mahzoon
Mirmajid Ghaemi

Iranian Society for NDTIRELAND

Michael J Prendergast

Irish Inst. Of Welding & Eng.
Inspection

9ISRAEL

G Shoef

Israeli Society for NDT

9ITALYG NardoniJAPANMikio Takagi

JSNDI

MALAYSIA

Yeo YanTeng

MSNT

MOROCCORachad Alami
Mohammad Lahlou

COMENDNETHERLANDSHein Hoogstraate

KINT

9NORWAY

Rune Kristiansen

Norwegian Soc. For NDT

9POLAND

Jan Mottl

Polish Society for NDT

9PORTUGAL

Luis M Ferreira
NegraoLuis Vieira Gomez

RELACRERUSSIA

Proxy for V Klyuev

Russian Society for NDT

9SLOVENIA

Janez Grum

Slovenian Society for NDT

9SPAIN

Emilio Romero

AEND

9UKRAINE

Andrey Shekero
Valentin Uchanin

USNDT

9UNITED KINGDOMSteve Lavendar
Mike Farley

BInstNDT

9URUGUAY

Silvia Infanzon

AENDUR

9992USAVIETNAM

3.

John Stringer
Thom Passek
Nguyen Minh-HongASNT

9Vietnam Assoc. for NDTAPPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE 26 AND 27 MEETINGS IN ROME, 2000

These minutes were approved by the meeting following correction of the attendance list
(addition of Mr R Doggart of ASNT). The approved minutes will be placed on the ICNDTwebsite.

4.

MEMBERSHIP

Applications by Singapore, Malaysia and Moldovia are under consideration by theMembership Committee Chaired by Douglas Marshall.
At the request of Mr Marshall the ICNDT Directory publicised in the ICNDT Journal is to bemarked up to denote those Societies which have achieved Membership status.
Committee membership was reviewed and the updated membership lists are appended (seeAppendix 1).
The General Secretary Mike Farley will request confirmation of Asia Pacific representationon the PGP by Dr Koh the new President of this Regional Group.

5.

FINE TUNING OF CONSTITUTION

The Version 6 of the Constitution had been approved by the positive results of a postal ballotof the full membership (26 in favour, 2 against, 1 abstention) and the ICNDT would now work
to Version 6.
Dr Baldev Raj commented that the Constitution will be subject to further development. Anyqueries or comments should be directed to Dr Farley. Any necessary amendments will beproposed by the PGP.
Mr Marshall and Mr Passek reminded the Committee that various operational procedures
need to be developed as soon as practical. Dr Farley agreed to prepare a list of theProcedures needed (derived from the minutes of recent meetings) and to circulate these tothe PGP with suggestions of the names of who could prepare them.

6.

STRATEGIC PLAN

Mr Nardoni reiterated the Objectives of ICNDT from section 4 of the Constitution and invitedcomment from the floor, particularly from the countries new to the ICNDT meeting. He
wants to draw up a Strategic Plan which will ensure that member organisations are properlyserved.
The comments received included:-

need for a publication review committee (ASNT)-

encourage countries to develop national certification schemes (Brazil)-

help fledgling NDT societies (Uruguay)3

-training for examiners (Uruguay)-

form a subcommittee to support new Certification bodies (Malaysia)-

encourage better communications (Vietnam)-

help provide facilities for training (Vietnam)-

provide training materials for harmonised training programmes (Ireland). Dr Baldev
Raj referred to the discussion on this topic at Dhaka, summarised in the recent
ICNDT Journal-

promote ICNDT/IAEA support of certification of Level 3s by outside countries(Germany)-run Regional Workshops (IAEA)-

expand/develop the draft ISO9712 Guide (Italy)-

ISO9712 Seminar

It was agreed following the suggestion of Douglas Marshall that preparation of a Strategic
Plan should be an Action Item for the PGP, in advanced of the Montreal meeting.
Relating to the ICNDT Recommended Guidelines for Qualification and Certification of NDTPersonnel according to ISO9712 (draft 2002) – copies of which were issued to everyonepresent at the meeting – Mr Stringer (ASNT) commented that in line with PGP
recommendations the document as an Unapproved Draft should not have been issued fromthe ICNDT booth. Mr Murphy commented that the version of ISO9712 included was notcorrect. Mr Nardoni stated that in line with the PGP Recommendations the Draft is issuedfor comment and comments should be sent to Dr Farley by e-mail by 1 September 2002.
Thereafter the document would be revised and submitted to the PGP for Approval. Sparecopies will be destroyed.
The meeting also concluded that a Procedure for approval of documents for publication in
the name of ICNDT is needed.
Mr Murphy offered to provide an electronic copy of the new draft ISO9712 to ICNDTmembers.

7.

FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS AND BUDGETS

The accounts and budgets which had been discussed at the PGP were presented to themeeting.
In summary the surplus on the Rome World Conference was 133200 Euro, which led to acommitment of 33,305 Euro to ICNDT. The activities of the Secretariat and the ActualExpenditure and Planned/Budget expenditure were presented (see Appendix 2).
The ICNDT recognised the generosity of the Italian Society and the thanks of the meetingwere expressed by Dr Farley.
It was recognised that beyond 2004 new methods offinancing ICNDT would be necessary if the present level of Secretariat activity, Chairman’svisits and ICNDT Journals is to be sustained. This might be possible through subscriptions,charges, grants, donations or by Societies taking on the Secretariat in their turn.

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WORLD CONFERENCE, MONTREAL, 2004

World Conference President Douglas Marshall confirmed that plans for Montreal are wellunderway. More than 50% of the Exhibition space has been sold. Several potential
sponsors are interested.
As part of its management of the Conference, Canada will prepare a software-based
template that would be handed over to the next Organiser.

9.

POLICY AND GENERAL PURPOSES COMMITTEEDr Baldev Raj (Chairman) summarised the activities of the PGP meeting on Monday 17 June
2002 including:(i) the preparation of procedures(ii) the drafting of the ICNDT Guide to ISO9712 certification (see above) including thesuggestion that a page be added for each country to give the name/address of thecountry’s Certification Body and status of implementation of ISO9712 Certification(iii) The creation of a further three ICNDT Awards to be presented at the World
Conference(iv) Proposals to establish formal agreements with ISO/IAEA(v) Consideration of how ICNDT could become a legal entity, for example by following
the model adopted by EFNDT(vi) Guidance on Constitution of Regional Groups
At the suggestion of Dr Farley, and following on from discussion in the PGP it was agreed toform an Editorial Committee for the ICNDT Journal comprising three individuals, one fromeach Region (Europe, Asia-Pacific, Pan American). The committee will be charged withfinding/preparing material for the Journal, and with reviewing the content before Publication.

10.

REPORTS FOR REGIONAL GROUPS

1.

Pan America

Maria Izabel Gebrael reported that Brazil is organising the 2003 Pan American conference inRio de Janeiro. There are ~20 countries in the region but only 9 are in the ICNDT. Recent
Pan American conferences have not been well attended. Brazil plans to work hard toimprove this and is cooperating closely with Argentina and Uruguay. Mr Nardoni and Mr
Einav expressed their support.
2.

EuropeDr Link mentioned the work of the EFNDT in the field of recognition/approval of certification,
including recognition of EN473/ISO9712 by ASME and developing an approach to approvalof NDT operators to work on Class I and II equipment under the P.E.D.
The next European Conference will be in Berlin, Germany in September 2006.

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Asia Pacific

A successful APCNDT was held in September 2001 in Brisbane (congratulations to John
Maccarone and Derek Olley).
The new President is Dr Koh of Korea.
on JeJu Island off the coast of Korea.

11.

Korea is hosting the 2002 Asia Pacific Conference

ANY OTHER BUSINESSDr Baldev Raj suggested that in order to improve the efficiency of ICNDT meetings each
item should be accompanied by a paper and/or PowerPoint presentation.
The meeting closed at 18.00 hours.

(Minutes prepared by Dr J M Farley)

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POLICY AND GENERAL PURPOSES COMMITTEE
Post

Name

E-mailChairman (Immediate
Past Chairman ofICNDT)Dr Baldev Raj

secdmg@igcar.ernet.in

ICNDT Chairman

Mr G Nardoni

nardoni@numerica.it

Vice Chairmen

Pan-American:Mr Joao Conte
Mr Thom Passek

directoria@abende.org.brtpassek@asnt.org

Europe:Mr R Roche
Dr R Link

cofrend@worldnet.fr
link@dgzfp.de

Asia-Pacific:

Prof M Onoe
Prof Rong Geng

m.onoe@ieee.org
rsgeng@public2.east.cn.net

ICNDTSecretary

General Dr J M Farleymfarley@mitsuibabcock.com

World Conference
President

Mr D MarshallDMarshall@ndeinst.org

ICNDT Honorary
Members

Dr H Kopineck
Prof de Meester
Mr G Nardoni
Mr Singharia
Prof M Onoe
Prof V Klyuev
Dr J M Farley
Mr G AufrichtH.J.Kopineck@t-online.denardoni@numerica.it
m.onoe@ieee.org
spektr@co.ru
mfarley@mitsuibabcock.com
aufricht@mittli.at

ICNDT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
Chairman ICNDTWorld Conference
President
General Secretary
Treasurer
Immediate Past
Chairman ICNDTMr G Nardoni

nardoni@numerica.it

Mr D Marshall
Dr J M Farleytba (by Austrian NDT Society)
Dr Baldev Raj

DMarshall@ndeinst.org
mfarley@mitsuibabcock.com
secdmg@igcar.ernet.in

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WORLD CONFERENCE ORGANISING COMMITTEE
Post

Name

E-mail16th World Conference
President

Mr D MarshallDMarshall@ndeinst.org

16th World Conference
Chair

Mr D Whitely

16th World Conference
Secretary

Ms Sharon Bond

sbond@ndeinst.org

Immediate Past World
Conference President

Mr G Nardoni

nardoni@numerica.it

Chairman of ICNDTMr G Nardoni

As aboveIndustry Liaison(Sponsorship Chair)
Industry Liaison(Exhibit Chair)
Industry Liaison
Scientific Programme
Chair
Cultural Programme
Chair
Finance ChairPeter Brady
Cindy R Bailey
Alison Smit
Jean F Bussière
Martin Viens
Dick Struk8910

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