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Virgo Lioness
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« on: 01.05.2017 at 14:46 [UT+1] »What happens when a couple has a Moon-Neptune double whammy? For example, one way they have Moon
trine Neptune, and the other they have Moon square Neptune. Would the trine balance out the negatives of thePosts: 46

square? Or does the whole thing come out feeling a bit one-sided? Been wondering about these sorts of things,
because I know double-whammies are supposed to be even more powerful!

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melekusha

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« Reply #1 - on: 01.05.2017 at 15:56 [UT+1] »What about in natal?
Do natives have it both? In their natal as well?
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Gender:I have both moon o I in synastry
In composite and in our natal
I felt at start it was the truest emotional relationshipI had ever been with
But if have it in natal also the other person mirrors
That aspect constantly .....
I don't know about as with a trine
Sry. .....
Also think depends on the moon
Of the individual as well and the sigh it's inOr house wow house placement plays huge role
Cause for us as an exemple we have moon m moon in Virgo
Mine is in my n 6H lol
And his on mc
He tries to dominate the crap out of me lol
As i trying to show him if he does the daily routines to feel more happier or healthier life style lol
It works slow for us but we both had mature soo much
Since we meet up. ..
Small ps. .....it feels omg at start but then comes what they discribe
This aspect as in synastry the negative side ....
But for us cause we have it as in natal it's just makes
Peronality traits valid bit more so
So I noticed if I accept it with in me it's easier to accept it in the otherIt's hard aspect though. ....generally speaking
Very very diseaving. ...or what's that word. ....ya

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Linda Harris
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« Reply #2 - on: 01.05.2017 at 16:01 [UT+1] »Trines do not cancel out squares.
So in this case you would need to see if other "heavy" planets are more friendly.
Also, yes, you have to see how powerful/negative Neptune is in each natal chart and if natal Neptune connects
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Virgo Lioness

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« Reply #3 - on: 04.05.2017 at 05:38 [UT+1] »Quote from melekusha on 01.05.2017 at 15:56 [UT+1]:
What about in natal?
Do natives have it both? In their natal as well?

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Hello, melekusha!
I'm not actually sure if both of us have it in our natal charts. For example, my Neptune is Capricorn while my
Moon is Virgo - so they are compatible signs, but it's a difference of 11 degrees between them. I think that's
too wide to be trine, right? As for him, I don't know his exact birth time, but I think there might be a verysmall chance it could be trine in his natal (though he would have had to be born around midnight for that to betrue).
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I have both moonin synastry
In composite and in our natal
I felt at start it was the truest emotional relationshipI had ever been with
But if have it in natal also the other person mirrors
That aspect constantly .....
I don't know about as with a trine
Sry. .....
Also think depends on the moon
Of the individual as well and the sigh it's inOr house wow house placement plays huge role
Cause for us as an exemple we have moon moon in Virgom

Mine is in my n 6H lol
And his on mc
He tries to dominate the crap out of me lol
As i trying to show him if he does the daily routines to feel more happier or healthier life style lol
It works slow for us but we both had mature soo much
Since we meet up. ..
Small ps. .....it feels omg at start but then comes what they discribe
This aspect as in synastry the negative side ....
But for us cause we have it as in natal it's just makes
Peronality traits valid bit more so
So I noticed if I accept it with in me it's easier to accept it in the otherIt's hard aspect though. ....generally speaking
Very very diseaving. ...or what's that word. ....ya

Yeah, I can imagine with Neptune involved, it can be quite dreamy at first! Thank you for telling me about yourexperience. The square sounds like it could be difficult. We have the same moons (both Virgo), but I'm not sure
how the trine would feel. Maybe still deceptive because of the Neptune inclusion, haha! That said, even though
it sounds difficult, it also sounds like you have a very special relationship with your partner. Were the difficulties
something you could work through together?
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Virgo Lioness
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« Reply #4 - on: 04.05.2017 at 05:42 [UT+1] »Quote from Linda Harris on 01.05.2017 at 16:01 [UT+1]:
Trines do not cancel out squares.
So in this case you would need to see if other "heavy" planets are more friendly.

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Also, yes, you have to see how powerful/negative Neptune is in each natal chart and if natal Neptune connects with either house of
marriage (7 or 9).
LainieHi Linda!

Thanks for your thoughts.

Yes, I didn't suppose the trine cancelled out the square, haha. Rather, I was wondering if having a trine as thesecond part of the double-whammy might ease any difficulties with the square. Or rather, if any good aspects
brought about by a trine would be one-sided because the other side has a square.
By "heavy planets", do you mean the outer planets, like Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto, etc? In my case, both
my Neptune and his Neptune fall into my 5th house. They along with our Jupiters, Uranuses, and Plutos play abig part in the chart connections! (I don't know his house placements because I don't have a birth time forhim!)
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melekusha

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« Reply #5 - on: 04.05.2017 at 10:30 [UT+1] »Still working ya and some days it's like we just meet up for the 1st time and can't get enough of each other

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Maria Mars
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« Reply #6 - on: 04.05.2017 at 13:20 [UT+1] »Quote from Lioness Defender on 01.05.2017 at 14:46 [UT+1]:
What happens when a couple has a Moon-Neptune double whammy? For example, one way they have Moon trine Neptune, and the otherthey have Moon square Neptune. Would the trine balance out the negatives of the square? Or does the whole thing come out feeling a bit
one-sided? Been wondering about these sorts of things, because I know double-whammies are supposed to be even more powerful!

You're in that "I don't want to see this relationship as it is" stage so you become very selective when you
obsessively read your synastry. Wait at least 6 months and you'll understand how these energies manifest.
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« Reply #7 - on: 04.05.2017 at 15:24 [UT+1] »She's not even 'in' the relationship. It happened very briefly, years ago. See her other thread. When therelationship isn't even real, it's easy to read into it whatever you want, picking out aspects for your supporting
argument.
Some people can create an entire fantasy of a relationship using the astrology. The only way to be certain how
a relationship really works is to be 'in' it. Then you can go back to the astrology and pick out why, not theother way around.
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melekusha
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« Reply #8 - on: 04.05.2017 at 16:53 [UT+1] »Quote from Madame Cholet on 04.05.2017 at 15:24 [UT+1]:
She's not even 'in' the relationship. It happened very briefly, years ago. See her other thread. When the relationship isn't even real, it's
easy to read into it whatever you want, picking out aspects for your supporting argument.

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Gender:Some people can create an entire fantasy of a relationship using the astrology. The only way to be certain how a relationship really works
is to be 'in' it. Then you can go back to the astrology and pick out why, not the other way around.

Hi I don't want to step on ur toes

I don't mean no disrespect. ...yet I beleave all have a right to ask
About synastry aspects without having a valid relationship

Eternal hugs
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Madame Cholet

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« Reply #9 - on: 04.05.2017 at 17:24 [UT+1] »No toes stepped on. I was replying to Maria who said - "Wait at least 6 months and you'll understand how theseenergies manifest." Unless Lioness finds the young man again, which sounds doubtful from her other thread,
it's all manifesting "in her head" and anything that's said about the aspects is theory.
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melekusha
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« Reply #10 - on: 04.05.2017 at 17:49 [UT+1] »The aspect is dreamy for real

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Gender:My mom pined for many years and I love to pine my self
And my mate also haha
Even at start he hesitate to make our meeting real in real life
And I was like oh works for me
Then some other heavy duty transits had happened to us
And we meet up lol

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Virgo Lioness

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« Reply #11 - on: 05.05.2017 at 17:41 [UT+1] »Quote from Madame Cholet on 04.05.2017 at 17:24 [UT+1]:
No toes stepped on. I was replying to Maria who said - "Wait at least 6 months and you'll understand how these energies manifest."
Unless Lioness finds the young man again, which sounds doubtful from her other thread, it's all manifesting "in her head" and anything

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that's said about the aspects is theory.

Whoa...I almost missed this thread.
Is there a reason why you are following me around the board, Madame Cholet? I really don't appreciate it.
To Maria Mars, I addressed the original question more generically to get an idea of what a Moon-Neptune
double whammy looks like between a couple in a Synastry chart. That's why I said "couple." However, yes,naturally like most people I asked because it is of personal interest to me and I noted it between the charts ofme and a man I'm interested in.
Back to Madame Cholet...
Yes, I chose to ask about a certain aspect because it's a double-whammy between the charts. In actuality, I
would like to ask about every aspect, including the bad ones, since as I have said multiple times, I am here togain an understanding of how astrology works and what exactly certain aspects can mean or bring out in a
relationship. However, since I know that it is unreasonable or possibly even impossible to ask all aspects to belooked at, I chose to address one aspect that goes both ways for the Synastry between me and this man. I
don't see any reason why that should negate my question. And honestly, it's a bit odd that you seem to be
assuming much about me, and incorrectly so. Even if my interest in this topic was purely theory (and part of it
most definitely is theory), what issue do you have with that? I think as melekusha said, all have a right toknow.
Thank you melekusha for backing me up.
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Maria Mars

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« Reply #12 - on: 05.05.2017 at 18:07 [UT+1] »Quote from Madame Cholet on 04.05.2017 at 15:24 [UT+1]:
She's not even 'in' the relationship. It happened very briefly, years ago. See her other thread. When the relationship isn't even real, it's
easy to read into it whatever you want, picking out aspects for your supporting argument.
Some people can create an entire fantasy of a relationship using the astrology. The only way to be certain how a relationship really works
is to be 'in' it. Then you can go back to the astrology and pick out why, not the other way around.

I totally agree with you. I didn't see the other threads so thanks for clarifying.There's certain things I would liketo ask about a certain someone I never meet in person and never will but I'm too realistic to do so on thisthread and rather not waste anyone's time and energy (especially the professional astrologers).
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« Reply #13 - on: 05.05.2017 at 18:14 [UT+1] »Quote from Maria Mars on 05.05.2017 at 18:07 [UT+1]:
Quote from Madame Cholet on 04.05.2017 at 15:24 [UT+1]:

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She's not even 'in' the relationship. It happened very briefly, years ago. See her other thread. When the relationship isn't
even real, it's easy to read into it whatever you want, picking out aspects for your supporting argument.
Some people can create an entire fantasy of a relationship using the astrology. The only way to be certain how arelationship really works is to be 'in' it. Then you can go back to the astrology and pick out why, not the other way
around.

I totally agree with you. I didn't see the other threads so thanks for clarifying.There's certain things I would like to ask about a certain
someone I never meet in person and never will but I'm too realistic to do so on this thread and rather not waste anyone's time and energy(especially the professional astrologers).

Um, but it's really not like that at all. I'm sorry if that's what you took away from it, reading my story in theother post, but it's not a "fantasy" and it's not someone I "never met" or "never will meet."
We worked together three years ago, there was a connection, and I'm thinking about getting into contact withhim again. We have mutual friends (just met again with these mutual friends a couple of months ago), and so
there is plenty of chance for me to contact him again. The reason I wrote my other post was to get an idea ofwhat might have happened between the two of us back when we first met three years ago, and to see if it's
something that would continue if/when I decide to contact him again. (I was also inspired to write these posts
because recently I've gotten more and more interested in astrology, for personal reasons outside of thisrelationship, but a strange feeling I had recently regarding this man was what finally gave me the spark to justget out, find a forum, and learn more about all of it.)I really don't appreciate the attitude that it's a waste of someone's time. If people are here to discuss astrology,
how can it be a waste of time? I'd very much like to learn more about these different things, because it's quite
complex, and even understanding just one aspect of astrology can lead to understanding more. What else is thepoint of a forum, if not to discuss with other people? Naturally there will be people of varying levels, those whoare more skilled and those like me who are just learning.
What an absolutely discouraging attitude to have...

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« Reply #14 - on: 05.05.2017 at 18:31 [UT+1] »Lioness Defender:
you asked, "Posts: 17033"Yes, I didn't suppose the trine cancelled out the square, haha. Rather, I was wondering if having a trine as thesecond part of the double-whammy might ease any difficulties with the square. Or rather, if any good aspects
brought about by a trine would be one-sided because the other side has a square"

I would be happy to be really specific about this subject if you either post both natals OR "synastry chart withouter circle (2) - with your natal in the center and the other persons planets on the outer circle.
Make sure it's type 2. thanks,
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« Reply #15 - on: 05.05.2017 at 18:52 [UT+1] »Quote from Lioness Defender on 05.05.2017 at 18:14 [UT+1]:
Quote from Maria Mars on 05.05.2017 at 18:07 [UT+1]:
Quote from Madame Cholet on 04.05.2017 at 15:24 [UT+1]:
She's not even 'in' the relationship. It happened very briefly, years ago. See her other thread. When therelationship isn't even real, it's easy to read into it whatever you want, picking out aspects for yoursupporting argument.
Some people can create an entire fantasy of a relationship using the astrology. The only way to be certain
how a relationship really works is to be 'in' it. Then you can go back to the astrology and pick out why, notthe other way around.

I totally agree with you. I didn't see the other threads so thanks for clarifying.There's certain things I would like to ask
about a certain someone I never meet in person and never will but I'm too realistic to do so on this thread and rather not
waste anyone's time and energy (especially the professional astrologers).

Um, but it's really not like that at all. I'm sorry if that's what you took away from it, reading my story in the other post, but it's not a"fantasy" and it's not someone I "never met" or "never will meet."
We worked together three years ago, there was a connection, and I'm thinking about getting into contact with him again. We have mutual
friends (just met again with these mutual friends a couple of months ago), and so there is plenty of chance for me to contact him again.
The reason I wrote my other post was to get an idea of what might have happened between the two of us back when we first met three
years ago, and to see if it's something that would continue if/when I decide to contact him again. (I was also inspired to write these posts
because recently I've gotten more and more interested in astrology, for personal reasons outside of this relationship, but a strange feeling
I had recently regarding this man was what finally gave me the spark to just get out, find a forum, and learn more about all of it.)I really don't appreciate the attitude that it's a waste of someone's time. If people are here to discuss astrology, how can it be a waste oftime? I'd very much like to learn more about these different things, because it's quite complex, and even understanding just one aspect ofastrology can lead to understanding more. What else is the point of a forum, if not to discuss with other people? Naturally there will be
people of varying levels, those who are more skilled and those like me who are just learning.
What an absolutely discouraging attitude to have...

I get why your defensive but I tend to see through the facade.
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« Reply #16 - on: 05.05.2017 at 19:03 [UT+1] »Quote from Maria Mars on 05.05.2017 at 18:52 [UT+1]:

I get why your defensive but I tend to see through the facade.

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It's not defensive. It's pure fact. I'm going to go ahead and guess that you didn't actually read the original postthat Madame Cholet was referring to, and I guess I can also assume that you didn't even read my last comment
to you on here, where I tried to clarify the incorrect assumptions you both had made. (For example, you
assumed that I don't even know the man I'm asking about when I clearly stated in my original post on thatthread that we worked together, and as I just mentioned we have mutual friends.)
I hate to say this, but I think you're asking a bit too much of us to just believe you "tend to see through thefacade". You don't know me, you don't know the man I'm talking about, and I most certainly do not know you.
I've literally come across you a few hours ago, and I would never be presumptuous enough to assume I know
someone after reading just one or two comments from them. This behavior is coming across as cyber bullying,and it's not appreciated. I don't understand why you feel the need to antagonize me (is it my vulnerable Virgo
moon?), but I don't think you're doing any of us any favors.
I'd like to ask you to please refrain from commenting to my threads, if they bother you so much. I think thatwould be best for all of us, and I would like to hear from astrologers who are serious about this stuff.
Thanks.
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« Reply #17 - on: 05.05.2017 at 19:11 [UT+1] »Let's hope others will share their experiences with moon Neptune
Contacts in synastry
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« Reply #18 - on: 05.05.2017 at 19:21 [UT+1] »--Hi Linda Harris / Lainie,
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Thanks a bunch for your reply!

Just to be clear, I'm responding to your comment here:

Quote from Linda Harris on 05.05.2017 at 18:31 [UT+1]:
I would be happy to be really specific about this subject if you either post both natals OR "synastry chart with outer circle (2) - with yournatal in the center and the other persons planets on the outer circle.
Make sure it's type 2. thanks,
LainieThank you again for your thoughts! The Synastry chart is here, though this one includes the asteroids, assomeone else recommended. My natal is in the center. Please do let me know if you have any trouble opening
it: http://imgur.com/gqi593G

Quote from melekusha on 05.05.2017 at 19:11 [UT+1]:
Let's hope others will share their experiences with moon Neptune
Contacts in synastry

Yes, melekusha, I would very much like to hear more about this! Much can be learned from the experiences ofothers. And it would be interesting to see the different ways in which the same or a similar aspect can play out!
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« Reply #19 - on: 05.05.2017 at 20:26 [UT+1] »Quote from melekusha on 05.05.2017 at 19:11 [UT+1]:
Let's hope others will share their experiences with moon Neptune
Contacts in synastry

I was in a 3 years relationship and meet him in person a few months before a break-up.
I was the Moon (12th house) and it squared his Neptune (1 degree so obviously a very tight aspect). His
Neptune also squared my Venus the orb was too wide though (-2 degree) but it was still significant because henatally had Venus t Neptune. I want to talk about the Pluto aspects that actually destroyed the relationship(and helped me understand and be conscious of my natal D uJ) but this is about Neptune/Moon connections
right?
It turned out that we both lied to ourselves and each other. We wanted to believe that a practically non-existent
relationship (long distance relationship) actually meant something but it was all an illusion and we both werevery selfish and lost. There was signs of lies (from his end and mine) in the beginning but I/we ignored them.
Emotional dishonesty was VERY prominent.
I though I was able to receive what I needed from him emotionally and it's a big deal because having a natal
12th house moon I am VERY sensitive and intuitive but I never did. He didn't understand my spiritual self, weboth thought we had similar spiritual ideals but turned out we didn't.
He thought that I understood his psychological/emotional self (it as very hard too know really him having Bh)
and he expected me to read his mind but the problem was that we were distant and couldn't understand but heacted upset, expecting me to understand regardless. He thought I was too needy. I was co-dependent. I
idealized the relationship. The relationship taught me that there is no such thing as unconditional love in adultrelationships. Too many lies.

Edit: Natally we both don't have Neptune/Moon contacts.
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« Reply #20 - on: 05.05.2017 at 20:39 [UT+1] »Seen this operating in charts:
Avoiding Reality
There can be tendencies to evade the harsh realities of life, and the individual wants to escape the drudgery ofdomestic chores, staying lost in the glamour of dreams and fantasies. Sometimes heading into flights offantasy, hallucination, intoxication, and addiction.
The main challenge is discriminating between reality and unreality, between fact and fiction. With Neptune
influencing the emotions the person sees what they want to see, and not what is actually there.
When the person realizes reality, the Neptune-like sea mist clears and they deal with the pain of
disappointment, disillusionment, loneliness, depression due to unfulfilled expectations.
Hard Moon-Neptune aspects play havoc with the emotions, and because of their deep feeling nature, it isdifficult for them to remain detached. They should find solace for these changeable emotions through artistic,healing and psychic inspirations.
The person tends to resist accepting responsibility and prefers ‘running away’ from problems. They may beattracted to substances as a way of escaping difficulties, and there is a danger of addiction, and to otheravailable remedies for feelings of ‘divine’ homesickness.
http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2011/03/moon-neptune-aspects/
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« Reply #21 - on: 05.05.2017 at 20:55 [UT+1] »Quote from Lioness Defender on 05.05.2017 at 19:03 [UT+1]:
Quote from Maria Mars on 05.05.2017 at 18:52 [UT+1]:

I get why your defensive but I tend to see through the facade.

It's not defensive. It's pure fact. I'm going to go ahead and guess that you didn't actually read the original post that Madame Cholet wasreferring to, and I guess I can also assume that you didn't even read my last comment to you on here, where I tried to clarify theincorrect assumptions you both had made. (For example, you assumed that I don't even know the man I'm asking about when I clearlystated in my original post on that thread that we worked together, and as I just mentioned we have mutual friends.)
I hate to say this, but I think you're asking a bit too much of us to just believe you "tend to see through the facade". You don't know me,
you don't know the man I'm talking about, and I most certainly do not know you. I've literally come across you a few hours ago, and I
would never be presumptuous enough to assume I know someone after reading just one or two comments from them. This behavior iscoming across as cyber bullying, and it's not appreciated. I don't understand why you feel the need to antagonize me (is it my vulnerable
Virgo moon?), but I don't think you're doing any of us any favors.
I'd like to ask you to please refrain from commenting to my threads, if they bother you so much. I think that would be best for all of us,
and I would like to hear from astrologers who are serious about this stuff.
Thanks.

OMG! Chill out. It's my freaking birthday today

and my intention was not to fluff people up but sorry if I

did. (: Geeze.
Of course we don't know each other on these forums. Some of us are still on the journey to understandourselves in...real life.
Anyways..I actually shared my Moon/Neptune experience to let you know. K?
Peace.
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« Reply #22 - on: 05.05.2017 at 21:09 [UT+1] »The Moon squaring Neptune can leave an individual so confused that they have trouble separating fact fromfiction. The loss on reality is so great that depression sets in and everything around them becomes
disorganized, out of order and downright dirty. The clean watery elements become more like a cesspool ofemotion. This is where the escapist tendencies come into play. The individual becomes so overwhelmed withemotion, confusion and disorder that they want to get away from it all, which in typical fashion would mean
they would turn to drugs, alcohol or food. The best choice of course would be to channel the energy into acreative or artistic pursuit since Neptune is incredibly spiritual and artsy. While writing this I became curious
about Vincent VanGogh wondering if he lost touch with reality and then whacked off his ear and sure enough,Vincent VanGogh had his Moon squaring Neptune and struggled with mental illness.

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« Reply #23 - on: 05.05.2017 at 21:26 [UT+1] »I think the real pull here was the trines of your Pluto to his planets.
I am going Tobe my usual undiplomatic Friday afternoon self. The real issue is why as a still young woman you
are still obsessing about a flirtation that went nowhere three years ago. Is it because a fantasy lover is safer
than going out in the real world and being vulnerable and taking risks like everyone else?
Unfortunately you posted the wrong chart that Laine was asking for. Sheuld have given you a lot of valuable
info.
I am not writing these things to be mean but to wake you up. You don't want to wake up at 35 or 40 realized
you missed the boat. IAM also wondering whether Neptune has been squaring your sun while transitsing in
Pisces.
For your own well being try to find away to release this man.

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« Reply #24 - on: 05.05.2017 at 21:28 [UT+1] »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTi9J8gS9KI
also a Moon squre Neptune person. And the rosy glasses
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« Reply #25 - on: 06.05.2017 at 06:05 [UT+1] »Quote from Maria Mars on 05.05.2017 at 20:55 [UT+1]:

OMG! Chill out. It's my freaking birthday today

and my intention was not to fluff people up but sorry if I did. (: Geeze.

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Of course we don't know each other on these forums. Some of us are still on the journey to understand ourselves in...real life.
Anyways..I actually shared my Moon/Neptune experience to let you know. K?
Peace.

I thank you for sharing your experience. I really wish that was how you’d first approached my thread – thatwould have been great. Thank you. Enjoy your birthday.
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« Reply #26 - on: 06.05.2017 at 06:10 [UT+1] »Quote from cancan on 05.05.2017 at 20:39 [UT+1]:
Seen this operating in charts:
Avoiding Reality

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There can be tendencies to evade the harsh realities of life, and the individual wants to escape the drudgery of domestic chores, staying
lost in the glamour of dreams and fantasies. Sometimes heading into flights of fantasy, hallucination, intoxication, and addiction.
The main challenge is discriminating between reality and unreality, between fact and fiction. With Neptune influencing the emotions the
person sees what they want to see, and not what is actually there.
When the person realizes reality, the Neptune-like sea mist clears and they deal with the pain of disappointment, disillusionment,
loneliness, depression due to unfulfilled expectations.
Hard Moon-Neptune aspects play havoc with the emotions, and because of their deep feeling nature, it is difficult for them to remain
detached. They should find solace for these changeable emotions through artistic, healing and psychic inspirations.
The person tends to resist accepting responsibility and prefers ‘running away’ from problems. They may be attracted to substances as away of escaping difficulties, and there is a danger of addiction, and to other available remedies for feelings of ‘divine’ homesickness.
http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2011/03/moon-neptune-aspects/

Hi cancan - thanks for sharing your thoughts. What you've posted here though is about a person with MoonNeptune in their Natal Chart, right? Not Moon-Neptune in two people's Synastry chart? Although I can probably
work out from what you posted how it would affect two people in Synastry, I was actually more interested in
knowing what Moon-Neptune aspects look like between people, and who is likely to feel what (the Moon person
versus the Neptune person).
Thanks!
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« Reply #27 - on: 06.05.2017 at 06:36 [UT+1] »Quote from alice b on 05.05.2017 at 21:26 [UT+1]:
I think the real pull here was the trines of your Pluto to his planets.

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Hi alice - yes, I can certainly imagine there was quite a lot of pull based on my Pluto to his planets, although I
don't think that has much to do with the incredibly gentle, emotional and perhaps even psychic pull that we felt
with each other. (Although I think this is probably getting off-topic, and I do have a thread asking for people's
thoughts on a Synastry chart if you want to talk about it there. This thread was supposed to be for looking
specifically at Moon-Neptune double-whammies in Synastry and people's experiences with them.)
Quote:
Unfortunately you posted the wrong chart that Laine was asking for. Sheuld have given you a lot of valuable info.

As for the chart, no worries. I'm in contact with her at the moment, so I'm sure she'll let me know.
Quote:I am going Tobe my usual undiplomatic Friday afternoon self. The real issue is why as a still young woman you are still obsessing about aflirtation that went nowhere three years ago. Is it because a fantasy lover is safer than going out in the real world and being vulnerable
and taking risks like everyone else?
I am not writing these things to be mean but to wake you up. You don't want to wake up at 35 or 40 realized you missed the boat. IAM
also wondering whether Neptune has been squaring your sun while transitsing in Pisces.
For your own well being try to find away to release this man.

I didn’t think I needed to get so personal about things, but let me put it like this, since this “it’s all in yourhead” stuff is starting to become an unfortunate, unfair trend based on one person’s incorrect assumption:
I identify as demi-sexual/a-sexual. I seem to hover between the two, which means that I choose relationships
VERY carefully – and I don’t tend to choose them so much as they'll either just happen or they don’t. I cannot
force relationships, because I know that won't work out for me. I already said this in the thread that's actuallymeant for this topic, but I need an emotional connection with a person in order to even consider dating them.
This is why I prefer to be friends with a man and to know him in that way before moving on to romantic things.
That's how I operate on the romantic front. (I am nothing like my Gemini Sun, Leo Ascendant in this regard.)
Now, I've had a few relationships in my life, but only ever when the connection was very deep, and none wereas deep as the one with this man. As I said before, he was the one who initiated it, and we both tried to find away to keep in touch. It just wasn’t possible, even if I regret it now. But perhaps that was for the best, because
shortly after meeting him (and up until about the beginning of this year), I was going through some seriously
bad times in my life. I could not have been up to being a decent romantic partner with everything that was
happening to me these past few years after meeting him.
You can call it a fantasy, and I even appreciate your apparent concern about my “waking up and realizing I
missed the boat”, but the fact of the matter is, there’s no boat for me to miss at this time. I would much rather
wake up unmarried at 35 or 40 years old rather than try to force a relationship just for the sake of saying I'm"married." I'm not really interested in having children either, so no concern on that front. (I also happen to live
in a country where most people are in their 30s and 40s and are unmarried, so go figure.)
I can’t help my feelings. I feel intuitively that I am connected to this guy, and I still don’t believe it’s a waste oftime to try and find out what aspects we have to better understand what’s going on here and if it is worth mytime to contact him again, as I should have done a couple of years ago.
But for this particular thread, shall we stick to the original topic? (People's experiences with Moon-Neptune
double-whammies in Synastry charts.)
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« Reply #28 - on: 06.05.2017 at 13:58 [UT+1] »Quote from AquariusDecan3 on 06.05.2017 at 11:26 [UT+1]:
http://sasstrology.com/2017/05/being-seen-vs-being-invisible-moon-neptune-aspect s-in-the-natal-chart.html

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Hi there, AquariusDecan3 - thank you for posting a link, but this thread is for Moon-Neptune connections in
Synastry. I apologize if the above posts, a few of which strayed off topic, might have caused confusion. For myown part, neither I nor the man I've been talking about in my posts has a Moon-Neptune connection in our
Natal charts, so I don't think the description shared on Sasstrology applies to us. However, it would definitely
be interesting to hear more about ways in which Moon-Neptune connections in a Synastry chart/between two
people play out, especially because it's a double whammy. Thanks again!

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« Reply #29 - on: 06.05.2017 at 14:47 [UT+1] »Now that I shared my experience with Moon square Neptune in synastry what do you partly conclude? That it
would similarly play out in your synastry? Your Moon is squaring his Neptune.
Also, I can't see that his moon is aspecting your neptune. It looks like it's aspecting Uranus. But maybe I'mwrong. This is why Laine wanted the second synastry version I think.
I agree with alice, it's the pluto energy (JnD, etc. etc.)
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« Reply #30 - on: 06.05.2017 at 15:17 [UT+1] »Quote from Maria Mars on 06.05.2017 at 14:47 [UT+1]:
Now that I shared my experience with Moon square Neptune in synastry what do you partly conclude? That it would similarly play out inyour synastry? Your Moon is squaring his Neptune.

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Also, I can't see that his moon is aspecting your neptune. It looks like it's aspecting Uranus. But maybe I'm wrong. This is why Lainewanted the second synastry version I think.
I agree with alice, it's the pluto energy (JnD, etc. etc.)

Yes, we have a Pluto-Venus double-whammy as well. One is my Pluto trine his Venus, the other is his Pluto
opposite my Venus (at an orb of about 4 degrees). But that's of course not what this thread is about, so
leaving that aside...
For my personal synastry chart, it's a bit of a wide orb (about 5 or 6) degrees, but it's my Neptune (Capricorn)trine his Moon (Virgo). Although since I don't know his birth time, the orbs of course have the potential to becloser. The other way is his Neptune square my Moon (again at about 4 degrees). Thankfully we have pretty
good aspects where Venus and the Moon are concerned in general.
About your personal experience, I appreciate hearing it certainly, although I wonder how it differs with adouble-whammy and with different aspects (such as a trine or sextile). Certainly, I can't really tell you what
your experience means, because of course I am aware that one or two aspects does not a chart make. And ofcourse I doubt that the aspects you had with the man in your chart are the same for the one in my Synastry
chart.
The point of this thread I suppose is more for the theory of how these aspects play out in Synastry and whatsort of energy they lend to a relationship, of course through hearing different people's experiences. Right now
it's sounding like a mixed bag of experiences to me. But as said, I don't believe one aspect (even a doublewhammy) can dictate the entire relationship. I just want to know what influence, if any, that it adds. It sounds
like there can be quite a lot of positive with the easier aspects like a trine, whereas harder aspects bring a more
dream-like and not always realistic quality.
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« Reply #31 - on: 06.05.2017 at 16:38 [UT+1] »I think it might be helpful to you to understand how the outer planets work on ndividual planets in a synastry
chart. Because you don't have the time of birth it is almost impossible to know what degree his moon andascendant are. This makes his house placements nearly impossible to know. What you can go on are theaspects between planets which can be very revealing. There is some disagreement about what orbs to use withsynastry. By using the second synastry chart with his planets on the outside, you will find where conjunctions
occur etc.
Generally speaking outer planets tend to be energies which we have little control over. It might help you if you
understand how the outer planets 't energy work which is of course modulated by the individual's chart.
When I look at the two charts, you had greater impact on him. It's a shame that both of you were so shy.
I hope you can locate him and find out for yourself.
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« Reply #32 - on: 08.05.2017 at 17:20 [UT+1] »Lioness,
I am not sure if I am being vague about this issue or if you are not understanding me.

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I do NOT use chart forms which are not generated from THIS site....which you can easily use by clicking on "myastro", putting in the appropriate birth datea, and then clicking on "extended chart selection."
This area give you SO many choices.....and within those choices is the prompt, "synastry with outer circle (2).
It is TOTALLY different from the regular synastry form - it shows the regular birth chart as it would lookwithout the other person's planets, and then the other person's planets are placed outside the circle in anothercolor. THIS is the way I have always read this type of chart, as well as all charts such as composites, solar
returns, etc.
There are so many sites which generate other types of charts....but all they do is make it harder and it takes
longer for me to study it....and I just don't have the time. I need to look at a chart form I am familiar with.
Others don't seem to have this issue.....but I do.
I hope I've finally made myself clear,
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« Reply #33 - on: 08.05.2017 at 18:51 [UT+1] »Quote from Linda Harris on 08.05.2017 at 17:20 [UT+1]:

There are so many sites which generate other types of charts....but all they do is make it harder and it takes longer for me to study
it....and I just don't have the time. I need to look at a chart form I am familiar with. Others don't seem to have this issue.....but I do.
LainieSo do I!
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