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lioninrain
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« on: 07.09.2008 at 04:52 [UT+1] »Just curious - I was just now thinking about the Mayan calandar, and I wonder, is your chart a uniquehappening, or do they recur at some point in time?
Will at some point in the past and future, the all of planets align again exactly as they were?

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« Reply #1 - on: 07.09.2008 at 05:58 [UT+1] »Lion , you going to have star-gazers 'flummoxed' at the possible reocurrence of a chart!
Since , planetary motions are periodic & there could be possible theoretical realignment ofour major planets , at exactly the same previous positions , however I feel observers shall be different!
But if your Astrological model have elements of Asteroids & fixed stars also , & if you are going to take into
account 'Receding galaxies/precession of equinoxes & co-ordinates of time in addition to the co-ordinates ofspace , techinically same chart shall can never occur .
Can we ever hope to see two different persons together with exactly same finger prints!
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If this universe is finished -off & new Big Bang happens , then there shall be altogether new players having afield day! Not our sun , moon ,Jupiter!
Since ,this question can be answered with one having a bit of awareness of Uranian activities, I , being taurean,is unable to think of further possibilities!
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« Reply #2 - on: 07.09.2008 at 06:01 [UT+1] »Thanks Arihant!

(No cleverly eating you up)

I just wondered...I was sure that I have read somewhere that it could not happen, but to my mind anyway,
somehow it seems that it should eventually....guess not though, huh.

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« Reply #3 - on: 07.09.2008 at 06:15 [UT+1] »No lion , its a great question!
I want to thank you for asking , because it motivates you to think out of box!..
abstract v/s Linear thinking & it does look possible to me also!
But how & when!
Some great thinkers , definately can give invaluable insights to your very intersting topic!
Thank you also , for NOT eating your old friends!

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« Reply #4 - on: 08.09.2008 at 03:26 [UT+1] »Any insights!

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« Reply #5 - on: 08.09.2008 at 03:47 [UT+1] »If you went by 7 planet astrology unique reoccurences would not be that bad. The least common denominators
would make it pretty reasonable in human time frame. 10 planet astrology with asteroids uniquness would
probably take 10's to hundreds of thousands of years if not millions and make some birthplaces hard to achieve
unless you threw in possibilities of being born on ships that are sailing where a continent used to be. Throw in
general mass flows between sun and planets and planets and moons etc and the energy environment would
probably not match up.
Out of curiosity I ran cayce charts on my most screwed up soul mate relationships and we all have an atlanteansignature.
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« Reply #6 - on: 08.09.2008 at 03:58 [UT+1] »Quote from Jonathan on 08.09.2008 at 03:47 [UT+1]:

Out of curiosity I ran cayce charts on my most screwed up soul mate relationships and we all have an atlantean signature.

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And this signature would be....???

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« Reply #7 - on: 08.09.2008 at 04:27 [UT+1] »I was thinking, that even if it did take thousands of years, that it would surely have to happen....and I cannot
tell myself otherwise.

Just is not computing.

Yes, what is an Atlantean signature Jonathan?

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lioninrain
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« Reply #8 - on: 08.09.2008 at 06:29 [UT+1] »Eureka! I found something! (and it's by Eric Francis, no less - I love his stuff!)
http://planetwaves.net/cainer/archive/000480.php

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« Reply #9 - on: 08.09.2008 at 07:00 [UT+1] »Oh ya. If you throw in Galactic Center then it makes thing dicey. Possible that it would never happen. Elsewise
you could have possibility of having the exact same chart but in a different age.

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« Reply #10 - on: 08.09.2008 at 07:11 [UT+1] »Quote from lioninrain on 08.09.2008 at 04:27 [UT+1]:
I was thinking, that even if it did take thousands of years, that it would surely have to happen....and I cannot tell myself otherwise.
Just is not computing.
Yes, what is an Atlantean signature Jonathan?

Sun trine Uranus.
Relationships that I share from early pioneer days on the cayce report seem to be much much better. Whether
the explanation is purely astrological I can't say. Cayce the bible other sources of ancient spiritual stuff havealot of very disturbing inconsistincies.
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« Reply #11 - on: 08.09.2008 at 08:41 [UT+1] »...lionrain, I once met 2 sisters at the same time and after a minute or two I nailed both of their sun signs [hl] and the l ladys' asc, f ..[see my Bros.info...r.e. Al, f asc.]...the odds of a lucky guess are 1 in12 for
one placement of a planet/orb and this above achievement is thus 12 x 12 x 12 or 144 to 1..so you have tokeep this multiplication table going until you cover all the orbs and the asc. And then multiply the final sum by
360 for each of the orbs and asc...and then if you want to get VEDIC...OY VEY !...I hope you have a large
enough calculator...YES we are each very unique.
ptv
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« Reply #12 - on: 08.09.2008 at 13:20 [UT+1] »I'm sure someone calculated it here - ages ago though and I can't remember by who - they calculated that yourexact birth chart would recur once every something like 33 million years....

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« Reply #13 - on: 08.09.2008 at 14:26 [UT+1] »....hmm...Maybe in 33 million years you get a 2nd chance at it...but I hope you've broken the grip of Maya b 4
then...long b 4...ptv

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« Reply #14 - on: 08.09.2008 at 21:57 [UT+1] »Jonathan,A chart with ApO could be someone who has an Atlantean sig???
What would this sig signify?
I have A 18h and O 27d - is that considered p for this??
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« Reply #15 - on: 08.09.2008 at 23:47 [UT+1] »Quote from Rachael on 08.09.2008 at 21:57 [UT+1]:
Jonathan,A chart with

ApO could be someone who has an Atlantean sig???

What would this sig signify?
I have18and27- is that considered

A hO dp for this??

http://grupovenus.com/info1i.asp?
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« Reply #16 - on: 09.09.2008 at 01:34 [UT+1] »Quote from lioninrain on 07.09.2008 at 04:52 [UT+1]:
Just curious - I was just now thinking about the Mayan calandar, and I wonder, is your chart a unique happening, or do they recur at somepoint in time?
Will at some point in the past and future, the all of planets align again exactly as they were?

they already have! in parallel universes!
33 million years is a long time. I think there will have been some significant global events over that amount oftime ,we can speculate that earth may not even be hospitable at that time and that the population may havemastered space travel.
thinking about this from a karma and reincarnation point of view I don't think it would be necessary to have anidentical chart, the reason I say this is because we would have changed ,evolved and progressed as souls.so wewould not need to be born with the same birth chart.or did you mean if another soul was to be born with thesame birth chart as one of us?
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lioninrain

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« Reply #17 - on: 09.09.2008 at 02:03 [UT+1] »Actually, I wasn't thinking about any of the karma, reincarnation or anything...more so just mathematics andwhat not

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« Reply #18 - on: 09.09.2008 at 02:09 [UT+1] »Thanks Jonathan, for the link. I appreciate it.

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« Reply #19 - on: 09.09.2008 at 02:46 [UT+1] »I couldn't find the thread I was on about, I'm assuming I either missed it or it was deleted, if anyone
remembers it please link it! So I did some googling instead...I think it's the same one. I'm on a very quiet
nightshift, I have the time, and still 4 hours to go....
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080901190014AAKJGU4From Yahoo Answers came this link http://www.etsu.edu/physics/etsuobs/starprty/22099dgl/planalign.htm
Turns out, I meant 340 million years, but even so that would be for the planets to be roughly in the same sign.

For an exact planetary line up, it is actually once in 180 trillion years. But that's without the moon as well.
With the moon it could be an eye-watering 86 billion-trillion-trillion-trillion years....
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« Reply #20 - on: 09.09.2008 at 03:09 [UT+1] »Thanks, Penguin Trauma!
I think that this is going to lead me from one question to another...
Now, thinking out loud here - Would the odds for any one given chart be any more or less likely? Would they
all have exactly the same likelyhood of recurring? I would think that they would not all have the samelikelyhood - hmmm.
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Gender:Well, at any rate, it still seems that while possible, takes a very VERY long time!

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« Reply #21 - on: 09.09.2008 at 03:23 [UT+1] »I once read about the odds (numbers) statistically of one having an exact chart (twin chart) as another,Does anyone know the odds or stats on this?
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