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staverna
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« on: 13.05.2009 at 10:34 [UT+1] »Morning All!
I was hoping that someone here might have a good understanding of Medical Astrology and the certain main
points I should be aware of. Of course, I am interested in this topic as of late from being bounced aroundthrough doctors who don't seem to know what my problem is. That sounds funny when I say it like that.
My primary seems to think that my issues (odd but not debilitating) stem from an overactive immune
response. However, when put on steroid therapy, etc....I seem to come out worse than when I started. Go
figure.
I'm starting to feel like some sort of guinea pig.
I was just wondering if maybe there is some sort of indicator in my chart and in charts in general to allude tothese ambiguous illnesses? It's quite funny...I never bother with doctors when it comes to the flu or any otherillness like that. I heal by myself incredibly quickly when it comes to those things. It is mainly the odd,
ongoing symptoms I seem to have that concern me now. I'm actually the world's worst at actually taking time
off to go see my doc, but it seems that I have been visiting much more than I would like lately.
Any help or pointers would be so greatly appreciated. I know that I can signify illnesses that go undiscovered.
Does anyone think that my BIm could have something to do with this? Btw, many of these quirky ailments
seem to occur at times when I am under stress.
Thanks a million,
Steph
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Mrs Emu

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« Reply #1 - on: 13.05.2009 at 11:40 [UT+1] »O in the 6th opposite N. I would look at electromagnetic field influence. Exposure to EMF's that are higher
than 10milligauss on an ongoing basis can cause all sorts of symptoms. Do you sleep close to a clock radio orother electrical device? How close is the power board to you work or sleep space? It doesn't matter if it is on
the other side of a wall. EMF's go through walls. Do you live or work near high voltage power lines or powertransformers. What about using electrical applicances close to your body. EG Hair dryers, shavers, epilators,
electric blankets, etc. All these things can disrupt bodily function. I have tested a lot of older appliances thathave emitted 99 milligauss plus fields. This puts you at strong risk of damage. You should be able to rent a
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milligauss meter and test your environment. I recently tested a two story building that was emitting nearly
300 milligauss from wiring between the first floor ceiling and second floor flooring. Whew, lots of people
complaining of vague symptoms. Personally I think 2 milligauss is the safe cutoff level. Anything above that ona regular basis is damaging.

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staverna
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« Reply #2 - on: 13.05.2009 at 12:21 [UT+1] »Quote from Mrs Emu on 13.05.2009 at 11:40 [UT+1]:

O in the 6th opposite N. I would look at electromagnetic field influence. Exposure to EMF's that are higher than 10milligauss on an
ongoing basis can cause all sorts of symptoms. Do you sleep close to a clock radio or other electrical device? How close is the power board
to you work or sleep space? It doesn't matter if it is on the other side of a wall. EMF's go through walls. Do you live or work near highvoltage power lines or power transformers. What about using electrical applicances close to your body. EG Hair dryers, shavers, epilators,
electric blankets, etc. All these things can disrupt bodily function. I have tested a lot of older appliances that have emitted 99 milligaussplus fields. This puts you at strong risk of damage. You should be able to rent a milligauss meter and test your environment. I recently
tested a two story building that was emitting nearly 300 milligauss from wiring between the first floor ceiling and second floor flooring.
Whew, lots of people complaining of vague symptoms. Personally I think 2 milligauss is the safe cutoff level. Anything above that on aregular basis is damaging.

Thank you! That is extremely interesting; I've never thought about that before. I will certainly start making alist of appliances like that that are around me frequently. I do sleep with an electrical clock on my nightstand,and I do work in a facility that uses enormous amounts of power. I think the electricity that goes into our
autoclave at work alone would be worth looking into. We do a lot of composite bonding. Although I'm
upstairs in the office, I spend much of my time on the shop floor.
Thank you...that was very helpful. I'll check that out.
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« Reply #3 - on: 13.05.2009 at 12:27 [UT+1] »Hi Steph,
I have no knowledge of medical astrology so can't comment, unfortunately. I do, however, also have the B I

m. In my case, most of my ailments have been stress related. I've noticed that I react very quickly to
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medications. I also think I'm sensitive to drugs with this aspect in my chart. My physical health is very good
so I've never been on medications for that. In fact, it's so good that I've never had to take antibiotics & yet
I'm in my mid 40s! I had a very bad drug reaction to an anti-depressant drug I took 5 years ago from which I
had all manner of side effects. Do hope you get some more responses on your thread.

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« Reply #4 - on: 13.05.2009 at 12:28 [UT+1] »composite bonding?
I would also look into the adhesives and any toxicity that might be emitted. Constant low level ingestion of
toxins in adhesives can also cause a variety of physical symptoms.

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« Reply #5 - on: 13.05.2009 at 15:06 [UT+1] »Thanks for the info about EMFs Mrs Emu... would that happen to have anything to do with the high-frequency'buzzing' sound that some electronics (like tv's, stereos) and lamps emit? Sometimes I'll be sitting in my livingroom and I start to feel irritation and I realize its that barely audible, yet inexplicably piercing sound comingfrom electronics. I've wondered if that sound, because it happens over a long period of time, could cause somephysiological damage.

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« Reply #6 - on: 13.05.2009 at 15:14 [UT+1] »Quote from Lisalou 2 on 13.05.2009 at 12:27 [UT+1]:
Hi Steph,BIm

I have no knowledge of medical astrology so can't comment, unfortunately. I do, however, also have the. In my case, most of myailments have been stress related. I've noticed that I react very quickly to medications. I also think I'm sensitive to drugs with this aspect
in my chart. My physical health is very good so I've never been on medications for that. In fact, it's so good that I've never had to takeantibiotics & yet I'm in my mid 40s! I had a very bad drug reaction to an anti-depressant drug I took 5 years ago from which I had allmanner of side effects. Do hope you get some more responses on your thread.

Thank you, Lisalou! I have found I am very much the same way. I'm hardly ever really sick unless it istriggered by stress, I think. I've had the flu once in the last 16 years, and I believe it was simply because mybody was run down. I am very leery of taking any medications now-a-days because in the back of my head I
know it will affect me in a negative way. It's hard to express that to a doctor who thinks he knows it all.
However, I've just done my best to avoid them. So...I'm thinking most of this must have at least something
to do with our BIs...hmmm.
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« Reply #7 - on: 13.05.2009 at 15:19 [UT+1] »Quote from Mrs Emu on 13.05.2009 at 12:28 [UT+1]:
composite bonding?
I would also look into the adhesives and any toxicity that might be emitted. Constant low level ingestion of toxins in adhesives can also
cause a variety of physical symptoms.

Yes, Mrs Emu,
The chemicals in the adhesives we use are certainly known to cause real health problems in many. Some people
develop extreme allergies over a short amount of time. That is definitely something for me to consider as well.
I have certainly been around this sort of stuff for a relatively long time now.
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2nd« Reply #8 - on: 13.05.2009 at 15:24 [UT+1] »Ex Member

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I can signify illnesses that go undiscovered.

I'm not to impressed with this idea- have you a reference.
Mis-diagnosed could be Neptune...........Auto-Immune issues suggests Neptune as well, maybe?
What date did you become ill?
I'm no expert on Decumbiture mind you, whatever this might be................
Toxicity/Poisoning evokes Pluto doesn't it?
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« Reply #9 - on: 13.05.2009 at 15:27 [UT+1] »Quote from MorningLight on 13.05.2009 at 15:06 [UT+1]:
Thanks for the info about EMFs Mrs Emu... would that happen to have anything to do with the high-frequency 'buzzing' sound that someelectronics (like tv's, stereos) and lamps emit? Sometimes I'll be sitting in my living room and I start to feel irritation and I realize itsthat barely audible, yet inexplicably piercing sound coming from electronics. I've wondered if that sound, because it happens over a long
period of time, could cause some physiological damage.

The high pitched sound may not indicate strong EMF radiation but the sound can be damaging in itself, causing
inner ear problems which can lead to hearing loss. Some people can hear higher frequency sound than others
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and like you say, irritation is a reaction to high pitched sounds that many people can't hear.

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« Reply #10 - on: 13.05.2009 at 17:06 [UT+1] »Quote from Charlie Charles 2nd on 13.05.2009 at 15:24 [UT+1]:
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I can signify illnesses that go undiscovered.
I'm not to impressed with this idea- have you a reference.
Mis-diagnosed could be Neptune...........Auto-Immune issues suggests Neptune as well, maybe?
What date did you become ill?
I'm no expert on Decumbiture mind you, whatever this might be................
Toxicity/Poisoning evokes Pluto doesn't it?

Well, this has been a series of ongoing problems mainly spanning the last 5 years or so. I usually just tough itout. Autoimmune disorder would definitely fit, and it is certainly something I have thought about. As for I, I
can't even remember where I read that, to be quite honest, but maybe I worded my statement incorrectly.
Misdiagnosis could be more like it.
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« Reply #11 - on: 13.05.2009 at 17:27 [UT+1] »I thought this might illuminate an otherwise dark corner left unattended:
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/decumbiture1.html
Steph, let's just look glancingly at the cusp of the 6th (aside from all the other stuff we could look at). Focus
on this for just a moment... D rules; D has one of those odd aspects (sesquisquare u ) to O. So illnesses aregoing to pop up unexpectedly, and I'm going to say that with O involved, stress will exacerbate them, yes (butthat's just common sense; no one ever felt better under too much stress). Your natal O is in the 6th, so a lotof your stress comes from work, of course, but the 6th is also (as part of the 6/12 axis) a house of mental
stress, stress we inflict on ourselves through our beliefs and thoughts. And then it's in opposition to N in the
12th, further touching on the hidden nature of the illnesses involved; they evade description when you findplanets in the 12th (although, of course, N is not technically a planet, but that's another discussion for anotherday).
The "weirdness" factor of your illnesses might also be a function of I, but let's not forget O in this equation.
People don't generally talk about O in these situations, but stress-related illnesses occur with O, in fact, that's
the first place I'd look for a stress-related concern. Then, I'm looking as well as I can at your progressed chart,
and you've got c, a nervous-order distress sign if ever there was, on the ASC, with a few important doohickeys
in progressed e, and this is another piece of the puzzle, because e in terms of health issues is very important,and it picks up on the theme of G in your natal 5th.
Generally speaking, right now, looking at the overall tone of your chart(s) I'd say your health is a little too
fragile for my liking, and it's going to be under siege at least some (let's not forget your G return, when you
start to see the cracks in the foundation...). What I see here is that your mental state is affecting your health.
From everything we've talked about, your 'big decision' has probably affected your health more than not, as
well as all the various work-related stressors you've been under.
You also have progressed E very close to your progressed ASC, indicating fevers. That progressed E iscoming up on natal D, indicating that the time to make a decision about one's personal life and personalvalues is upon one.
Boy, it's a good thing I looked at your chart.

Now all becomes clear...

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« Reply #12 - on: 13.05.2009 at 17:36 [UT+1] »With Venus ruling your chart and the 6th house (both indicators of health) in Cancer/Moon dispositor is
Sag/Jupiter ruling-Venus is rather isolated aside from theu to Uranus and doesn't have alot of supportive
energy. This Venus is also having transiting Pluto oppose which may be activating some chronic issues aroundhealth. Autoimmune disorders are quite prevalent-in many forms these days-overactive would certainly point
to Moon Neptune (Jupiter ruled)-Jupiter to overactive/Neptune too confused/overstressed ambiguous question
around immune system. Stress is a strong indicator which literally burns the immune system out. No brainer
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Gender:there. You may want to have your adrenals checked. With the current transits of Neptune, Jupiter, Chiron oyour ASC(this is showing the current strain on your physical body-Neptune/Jupiter related which explains theimmune question. You also have transit Uranus o Moon/Neptune which is part of the stress factor attributing
to draining your energy. Also, there with Mars in the 1st house-Gemini/lots of nervous energy that pushes
out yet gets pushed back by Saturn (Saturn o Mars)-something about balancing this drive where I envision you
are overextending yourself and Saturn is showing the repercussions.

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« Reply #13 - on: 13.05.2009 at 18:14 [UT+1] »Oh wow...thank you all for all of this!

Really...I can't express how grateful I am for your input on this.

Syzygy and Inanna,Yes, I think you are right about all of the nervous energy I have here lately...and from what you've described,
O seems like the perfect culprit. And..yes, work and current relationship decisions have been eating away atme, that's for sure. I've noticed these certain "quirks" for years now, but it seems as if it is all coming to ahead, in a way. It feels exactly as you described it, "like the foundation is starting to crumble". This current
go-round started with an earache...well, one that lasted for 4 months. What's odd is that it will come andgo. It gets severe when I am worked up....it's so odd. I would think that if this were an infection of any sort,
it would have spread or drastically worstened within this timeframe. Of course, this sort of thing is kinda parfor the course for me, coming from a person who actually developed shingles while under pressure to publish
my senior thesis when I was 22. My mother still thinks that whole episode was very strange. However, I could
give her advice on it when she went through it last year.
My nerves and moods totally control my health.
It's so hard to explain that to a physician.
And...regarding Adrenal function: you must be reading my mind, Inanna.

Given that Medrol synthesizes thethe chemicals made by the Adrenal glands, this makes much sense...maybe mine are not working efficiently?
GoE...I just knew those two rascals had something to do with this!
If anything can cause stress, those
two will.
I'll think about this more, definitely...thank you so much!!!!!!

Steph

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« Reply #14 - on: 13.05.2009 at 18:39 [UT+1] »hi stephi havent got time to dig out the books i have but remember eileen nauman commenting on I illnesses going
undiscovered for some time due to its ability to creep into the system undetected in the book she's written on
medical astrology
her book is quite comprehensive (covers vitamin deficiencies of signs/planets)and she includes a great section
on vitamins and homeopathy etc and she uses some of the transneptunians.
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« Reply #15 - on: 13.05.2009 at 18:39 [UT+1] »I think that your Uranus-Chiron opposition across the 6th-12th axis gives you a very sensitive immune sytem(6th). It is probably very good at fighting off bacteria and viruses by itself - and as you said, you haven't taken
allopathic medications for symptoms in the past (such as flu).
But over the past few years, the opposition has been squared by Neptune and Chiron in Aquarius (plus Jupiterthis year), and I think your immune system has gone into overdrive. The steroids are an allopathic way of
suppressing it, but maybe a better approach would be to find out what is sending it into overdrive in the firstplace (something in the Aquarian realm out there). I think that whatever it is will pass when the Aquariantransits subside, but meanwhile try to find out what it is and avoid it.
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« Reply #16 - on: 13.05.2009 at 18:40 [UT+1] »Steph I really suggest that you see an acupuncturist. considering your ailments are relating to emotions andalso nerves. I was also looking at O J.

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« Reply #17 - on: 13.05.2009 at 19:28 [UT+1] »Makes sense the emotions playing a part (esp with Sun Cancer square Pluto)-Pluto in the 6th. With the nodal
axis on Saturn Virgo, I would think, Saturn principles of moderation, balance, restraint would factor in as well
as Virgo traits of health, purity, natural, holistic. The earthiness and being in nature, calm, peacefulsurroundings to recharge batteries and keep you grounded as you need this to help offset the Uranus electrical.

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« Reply #18 - on: 13.05.2009 at 20:36 [UT+1] »What struck me was Venus being in Cancer and opposite Moon, plus Sun in Cancer squaring a 6th house Pluto.
I think a food allergy might be involved.
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« Reply #19 - on: 14.05.2009 at 04:15 [UT+1] »Oh wow, thank you for all of the great comments here...you all really have me thinking about a few things here.
Sorry for the late response...I had to take my old-lady nap.
Quinn, thank you! I knew I had read that somewhere about I, but I wasn't quite sure where it came from...or
if I just made it up.
I'll definitely have to check out that book.
Realworld, what you said does make much sense. Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune in Aquarius all squaring my
Chiron and Uranus cannot be terribly condusive to good health with me. And...you're right. It seems that in
the few years or so I've definitely noticed more issues that in and of themselves would seem like simple
annoyances...however, all put together, it's just plain weird. My immune system is unusually strong, I think...if
I get sick, I recover within a day. It's usually the aftershocks that get me. This steroid treatment has thrownme for a loop, being vulnerable to everything all of a sudden.
I think I might prefer to deal deal with aches
and pains than be so incredibly tired with a low grade fever all the time. I have to slap myself awake driving
home from work when taking that stuff...really.
hss4x4, I think that's a great idea. What could acupuncture hurt anyway? I've pretty much decided that my
doctor does not understand what's going any more than I do.
Innana and Velvet Sphinx, I've always wondered where this Pluto square Sun would finally rear it's ugly head ina destructive way. Maybe it is the body attacking itself? That kind of fits. And...food allergies are definitely
not out of the question here. Actually a good friend of mine who works on the research and ethics board of amed school down in TX has mentioned Celiacs...of course because she has it. However, she thinks some of myproblems sound very similar to what finally caused her to be diagnosed. It is something very ambiguous unless
you know what you're looking for. She was being treated for depression for years before they realized she wassimply allergic to gluten. That's certainly another option to consider.
Wow...so much to think about here; so many great insights.
I feel better just hearing your input...it getsme out of my own little stagnated thoughts on this. Thank you all so very much!
Steph
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« Reply #20 - on: 14.05.2009 at 04:49 [UT+1] »Hi Steph,
Not sure natally if my 12h OmJ has any reference to my adrenal fatigue.
My adrenals take a beating, I would make a fair assumption that most people have adrenal issues. Those little
walnut size puppies on each of the kidneys do A LOT of work in our lifetime.
Being tired, emotionally over-taxed, are a few common symptoms.
Go to a naturopathic doc, they will test your adrenals. I take Iscort (you can online without prescription), 2
pills in a.m. and 2 afternoon. Made a world of difference for me... Prior, I was having mild anxiety waking up in
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« Reply #21 - on: 14.05.2009 at 05:32 [UT+1] »Hi Staverna,
Just wanted to offer the following:1)
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/51913.php
This is a very good article - recommended for everyone as food for thought. The scientist in you may like it too.
I offer this because a close relative of mine who has had issues with chronic infections and immunity problems
after many fruitless years of doctors taking pot-shots and missing at his expense - finally figured this out forhimself, got tested and confirmed, and now is much better from simple and safe solutions. It all came together
as obvious - once the problem was solved, of course.
Because of another condition he has assiduously avoided exposure to sunlight, hence the problem mentioned in
the article - chronic immune deficiency due to sub-clinical levels of Vitamin D from insufficient exposure to
sunlight. Don't know if you fit this pattern or not but like I said, posting the article link as a "public service" incase it benefits anyones needs.
2) saw that you mentioned possible environmental hazards at work and if you are sensitive this can be a
problem. Do not assume that just because your physical plant is OSHA compliant that various "secondarytransfers" of contaminants like on clothes and shoes of co-workers are not happening. Also aerosol migration
etc. I am sure that the composites being composited in your shop use some nasty resins and catalysts, and if
you have any sensitivity at all, you can be reacting, especially if immunity is borderline already.
3) since you mentioned a vulnerability to stress in general, this can be a background susceptibility, bringing
your system closer to the edge of reaction, perhaps moreso than "normal" coping and compensating would
allow given the same circumstances.
So- don't know if you meditate, or do yoga, even walk/run/swim/bike everyday as a mitigation of stress but
this can be tremendously helpful. Daily exercise of some kind has numerous important benefits, many of which
relate to immune response both directly and indirectly.

4) I am always cautious myself about solving problems with more radical measures (eg steroids)before
eliminating simpler variables/measures as sometimes the more stringent measures have their own
consequences even if they are appropriate which in many cases can be questionable to begin with. It is acomplex field and doctors frequently do not have a clue but may not be eager to admit their lack ofunderstanding. (see groopman, jerome - how doctors think)5) Astrology: "Stella"/10 k, O 6, T Ol11 points to wounding/healing through the work place/group,friends
so I might be thinking that exposure issues at work/from others (upper chart) will reveal deeper
personal/systemic issues that create vulnerability (lower chart in general). F/Ce(Ad)triBi Ec can behigh strung BIi can be infectious foreign to defenses from public, etc.
Conclusion - I would approach it 2 ways - look for timing/structural issues of exposure
environmentally/work/public etc on one hand, but mainly systemic internal vulnerabilities on the other which
may be revealed by the former. Somewhere the two may converge with a solution.
Interesting how everyone's suggestions reveal specific personal experience- that is the benefit of groupinteraction since some, any, all may apply.

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« Reply #22 - on: 14.05.2009 at 07:18 [UT+1] »Quote from staverna on 13.05.2009 at 10:34 [UT+1]:
Morning All!
I was hoping that someone here might have a good understanding of Medical Astrology and the certain main points I should be aware of.
Of course, I am interested in this topic as of late from being bounced around through doctors who don't seem to know what my problem
is. That sounds funny when I say it like that.

My primary seems to think that my issues (odd but not debilitating) stem from an

overactive immune response. However, when put on steroid therapy, etc....I seem to come out worse than when I started. Go figure.
I'm starting to feel like some sort of guinea pig.
I was just wondering if maybe there is some sort of indicator in my chart and in charts in general to allude to these ambiguous illnesses?
It's quite funny...I never bother with doctors when it comes to the flu or any other illness like that. I heal by myself incredibly quickly
when it comes to those things. It is mainly the odd, ongoing symptoms I seem to have that concern me now. I'm actually the world's
worst at actually taking time off to go see my doc, but it seems that I have been visiting much more than I would like lately.

I can signify illnesses that go undiscovered. Does anyone think that my
BIm could have something to do with this? Btw, many of these quirky ailments seem to occur at times when I am under stress.
Any help or pointers would be so greatly appreciated. I know thatThanks a million,
Steph

Very generally speaking, one of the most important things in health, in all health and in all people, is thebalance between acid and alkaline in the system.
But this doesn't just relate to food, but also to attitude, and to different kinds of exercise.
producing.

Stress is acid

My guess is that your system is rather over consistently acidic.

Again, generally speaking, most fruits and veggies are alkaline reacting. Most grains, starches, sugars, etc
are acid forming, as well as most proteins (except like almonds, goat milk, etc).
But, what's most important is avoiding certain specific combo's of foods. Particularly starches with heavy
proteins (like any kind of meat OR concentrated, non cultured soy product) is very acid producing and hard on
the digestive system.
Fruits and veggies do not mix well, and fruits don't generally mix well with starches.
Good combos are starches with veggies generally. Proteins with veggies are usually a good combo. Light
proteins, like almonds or goat milk, are ok and only moderately acid forming with starches.

Let's just say with Cap Sun in 6th CON Merc., with Saturn, Mars, and Jupiter in Virgo and N. Node in Virgo in
the 1st, (and less important to me at least Chiron CON MC)...well i've had a lot of experience and testing inthese areas. I've been studying and refining holistic/alternative health info for about 12 years now.
I also highly recommend also, some form of relaxation and low impact exercise practice, particularly
meditation and walks/activities in nature and natural surroundings. Stress is oft a major contributor to bothgeneral over acidity in a direct sense, and also in an indirect sense via its adverse affect on digestion and thedigestive system.
Digestion is extremely important in the whole health equation. It's interesting how a compromised digestivesystem and internal imbalances inside, oft show up in the outer like with skin issues, like psoriasis and manyother chronic skin issues.
Something very healing to the intestines is taking powered slippery elm bark in cold water, especially firstthing in the morning and before going to bed. It helps to speed up the healing of the stomach/intestinal
lining.

Chamomile tea, also Roobios, and especially American Saffron tea also aid along this line.

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« Reply #23 - on: 14.05.2009 at 07:25 [UT+1] »Also rather than listening to this or that person on this thread, or in general, it's very important to go within
re: this. I believe everyone, if they just practice enough, can learn to get more and more direct guidance onvarious issues.
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« Reply #24 - on: 14.05.2009 at 07:42 [UT+1] »Quote from staverna on 13.05.2009 at 10:34 [UT+1]:
Morning All!
I was hoping that someone here might have a good understanding of Medical Astrology and the certain main points I should be aware of.
Of course, I am interested in this topic as of late from being bounced around through doctors who don't seem to know what my problem
is. That sounds funny when I say it like that.

My primary seems to think that my issues (odd but not debilitating) stem from an

overactive immune response. However, when put on steroid therapy, etc....I seem to come out worse than when I started. Go figure.
I'm starting to feel like some sort of guinea pig. http://forum.astro.com/im/sym/s_con.18.gif
I was just wondering if maybe there is some sort of indicator in my chart and in charts in general to allude to these ambiguous illnesses?
It's quite funny...I never bother with doctors when it comes to the flu or any other illness like that. I heal by myself incredibly quickly
when it comes to those things. It is mainly the odd, ongoing symptoms I seem to have that concern me now. I'm actually the world's
worst at actually taking time off to go see my doc, but it seems that I have been visiting much more than I would like lately.

I can signify illnesses that go undiscovered. Does anyone think that my
BIm could have something to do with this? Btw, many of these quirky ailments seem to occur at times when I am under stress.
Any help or pointers would be so greatly appreciated. I know thatThanks a million,
Steph

please clarify what exactly are your symptoms....the first impression is that it is job related and hasenvironmental origin( chemicals).. and look at your D your rulermalgol( do you have asthma by chance?) andthe 6th ruler currently nJj(ruler of the 10th) which in its turn in the 6th and corules your 6th...B rules yourvenus will be o by GnO this september.....it will get more of your attention within the next year due to the
DnJoGO as soon as this fall...give more details on your symptoms and we can go from there....but itsounds like an allergic reaction( which is the immune response) to the external reagents) at work... is it athyroid issue?
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« Reply #25 - on: 14.05.2009 at 08:06 [UT+1] »Just a quick add Steph, have you been tested for food allergies? I was tested, and shocked at results! Long
story short, your body will create antibodies to 'react' to what has been eaten (allergic to), thereby lowing yourimmunity, etc. After 90 days on the elimination program, I felt *worlds* better! Changed my life and felt 20
years younger! Before coming across this program, a friend introduced me to Eat Right For Your Blood Type.
Between both plans, I have lost 90 pounds, and completely changed me in every way, especially health! Now
working on the emotional integration!
This is the place the naturopath sent the tests. This site gives more consumer information, doc referral,
etc.
Just a short summary of 32 foods of 115 tested; I was allergic to lettuce, onions, tomato, broccoli, asparagus,
plums, all citrus, peaches (not nectarines), soy, brewers yeast - to name a few.
I am a wounded healer!

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These are just suggestions, by no means "for you." Hoping to help.
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« Reply #26 - on: 14.05.2009 at 08:27 [UT+1] »Sometimes we have allergic like reactions to certain foods, not because they are innately bad for us, but
because they are very cleansing in nature, like lettuce, asparagus, or citrus for example.
I remember one time i was overly toxic body wise, and tried some lemon juice cleansing.
"allergic" reactions to it. My skin broke out in rashes.

I had seemingly

Now that i'm more cleansed and balanced, i can drink lemon juice with impunity. It's almost like some ofthese foods and taking same when overly toxic, is like stirring up a really muddy river, and the river seems toblush strongly with a strong reaction when its so mucked up to begin with.

But yeah, true food allergies do tend to contribute strongly to an over toxic and stressed body system. Mostof the so called "allergic" foods also "coincidentally" are also some of the hardest to digest. The most common
ones are most forms of soy, most forms of gluten--especially in wheat, most forms of cow dairy especially non
cultured and non organic forms, conventionally grown and processed peanuts (because of a mold which loves togrow on same, especially after going through irradiation).
of the increasing pollution issues with same.

Fish is becoming a more common one too because

It's interesting to note that celeiac and other issues are becoming so prominent in the modern age anddeveloped countries. Why's it interesting is that in the "olden" days and still in many lessdeveloped/technologized countries, most breads were sour doughed prepared in a longer and more breaking
down/predigesting process, and grains tended to be both soaked and cooked longer. This is apparent if one
looks at "ancient recipes". The Scotts regularly soaked their oats for at least 2 days for example. Now
everything is "instant", or quick rising.
I've noticed that one can have gluten issues, but if they eat bread made from both sprouted andsourdoughed like spelt or kamut grain, they tend to digest it much better and thus have much less strong
reactions to it.

The eat right for your blood type is not all that accurate or so i've found--it's based on limited awareness ofhuman history and evolution. According to it, my diet should be radically different than it is, and i should beeating a lot of meat, especially red meat.
developments from this change.

I'm vegetarian and for almost 8 years, and have mostly seen helpful

Many such theories are more along the lines of temporary fads, and eventually fade away.
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« Reply #27 - on: 14.05.2009 at 12:04 [UT+1] »Quote from direct Jupitarian on 14.05.2009 at 08:27 [UT+1]:
The eat right for your blood type is not all that accurate or so i've found--it's based on limited awareness of human history and evolution.
According to it, my diet should be radically different than it is, and i should be eating a lot of meat, especially red meat. I'm vegetarianand for almost 8 years, and have mostly seen helpful developments from this change.

Prior to Eat Right for your Blood Type, I tried going vegetarian. My girlie time quit for 3 months! Bamm,
started right back up after I started eating meat again. I'm a type O.
Luckily we all have a mind of our own, sometimes more than others!
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« Reply #28 - on: 14.05.2009 at 22:28 [UT+1] »Lanette,Thank you so much for your helpful advice! I will certainly mention seeing about getting my adrenal function
assessed. Adrenal malfunction would fit, I think...and it's so good to know that if that is the case, it can be
dealt with easily.
I have to go in for them to check on my kidney and liver function anyway....it would be niceto get everything done in one swoop (it's all in the same area anyway). I know, that's wishful thinking.
Thank you so much for the helpful links...I'm excited to check them out when I get home!
Nowhere,Thank you for the link to that article. It makes me very hopeful that things could be fixed by me simply
making minor changes. I like that! And...yes, I will never go on steroids again after this round. It hascertainly done more damage than good. I guess sometimes I forget that doctors are humans that makemistakes too sometimes. However, it does seriously concern me that this one took this line of action as his first
choice. I'm seriously considering changing Dr.s now.
DJ,
I'm not quite convinced that it is a food allergy; however, I can't discount it at this point. Really, I think it
could be anything.
Solarwind,Thank you for the helpful info. September of this year should be very telling, indeed. With JoG and O all
affecting my D in 2 like this, it's no wonder something like this is surfacing. As for symptoms, it's hard to
define, as they are all over the place...kinda.
There is of course the kidney issues (they're not supposed tohurt, right?), chronic iritis of my left eye, severe headches (I think I've had the same one for years, lol), ofcourse...the shingles incident, for some reason I get hives now (I never did until a few years ago, always
when I'm worked up), achy joints (could be a sign of me getting older of course), and I've noticed a few
times (not too terribly often) that there will be a perfect raised red, silver-dollar sized spot on my shoulder. I
know it sounds funny, but it doesn't hurt or anything..it's just there. Rather odd, I thought. Oh yes, and I am
constantly tired. Oh geez...reading over this, I sound like a basketcase.
However, thinking back, my entire
career after college has been spent in environments with a high toxicity factor. Working in aerospace, you comeinto contact with some of the worst chemicals around, so I can't rule that out as some sort of trigger.
A lot to think about....thank you all!
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« Reply #29 - on: 15.05.2009 at 07:43 [UT+1] »Quote from Pisces63 on 14.05.2009 at 12:04 [UT+1]:
Prior to Eat Right for your Blood Type, I tried going vegetarian. My girlie time quit for 3 months! Bamm, started right back up after I
started eating meat again. I'm a type O.
Luckily we all have a mind of our own, sometimes more than others!

I'm type O negative. I've known a lot of vegetarians and some vegans, both male and female, and i'm
assuming with various blood types. Unfortunately "eating vegetarian" doesn't directly translate to "eating
healthy".
I've observed repeatedly that it is more common for women to have issues with a vegetarian diet because of
their "girlie time". Simply because there is regular blood loss, there is greater iron and certain B vitamin loss.
A woman may stop menstruating on a veggie diet, if she isn't getting enough of these nutrients, in order toconserve and maintain healthly levels of same.
It's not because they are vegetarian per se, but because they aren't getting enough easier to assimilate ironand B-12 in their diets.
The thing is, veggie diets can provide both in adequate amounts if there is enough balance, variety, deeper
research, and discipline. It may be a bit "harder", or rather takes more discipline in the long run, but its very
doable and i know healthy women who have been vegetarian for a long time.
Sure, it's easier and more convenient to supply a more easy to assimilate iron, and greater amounts of B12
by eating dead animal carcasses, but to me it seems quite worth it to go that extra 1/4th mile so that animals
don't get tortured and brutally killed, the planet more polluted and more resources wasted, etc. Perhaps you
disagree? I suppose that is your freewilled and freethinking prerogative. I at least hope that you buy as
ethically and humanely raised and once organically fed dead animal carcass?

Oh, i almost forgot...

Even us Jupitarians have our dark side.
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« Reply #30 - on: 15.05.2009 at 08:17 [UT+1] »Quote from staverna on 14.05.2009 at 22:28 [UT+1]:

Thank you for the helpful info. September of this year should be very telling, indeed. With

JoG andO all affecting my D in 2 like this,

it's no wonder something like this is surfacing. As for symptoms, it's hard to define, as they are all over the place...kinda.

There is ofcourse the kidney issues (they're not supposed to hurt, right?), chronic iritis of my left eye, severe headches (I think I've had the sameone for years, lol), of course...the shingles incident, for some reason I get hives now (I never did until a few years ago, always when

I'm worked up), achy joints (could be a sign of me getting older of course), and I've noticed a few times (not too terribly often) that

there will be a perfect raised red, silver-dollar sized spot on my shoulder. I know it sounds funny, but it doesn't hurt or anything..it's justthere. Rather odd, I thought. Oh yes, and I am constantly tired. Oh geez...reading over this, I sound like a basketcase.

However,thinking back, my entire career after college has been spent in environments with a high toxicity factor. Working in aerospace, you comeinto contact with some of the worst chemicals around, so I can't rule that out as some sort of trigger.
A lot to think about....thank you all!

Everything you've described sounds like chronic, over acidity and digestive issues to me. I have a lot ofexperience with hives, and other indications of such over acidity and digestive issues.
It also sounds like there are environmental factors contributing, and with a combo of all the above, you needto really cleanse your body, but "make haste slowly" in this regard. Too much cleansing too fast can be hardand very intense on a body.
Have you ever heard the term "leaky gut syndrome"? I would do a combo of researching the all importantalkaline acid balance factor, LGS, and perhaps also info about major internal Candida overgrowth issues andhow this affects the gut and entire system eventually.
Viruses, yeasts, pathogenic bacterias, fungi, etc. all have one thing in common, they don't "like" or survive wellin alkaline environments.
What they do like is mild to moderate acidity and too much sugar and starch (especially refined and glutinous
kinds e.g. white breads and the like) in the diet. Correct both these factors, and i think you will start to feelbetter and better eventually.
You also need to improve circulation and oxygenate the body more via consistent, but low impact aerobic
type exercise like simple walking outdoors in non smoggy areas.
Since there are possible outer chemical factors, you might want to look into deep body cleansing via chelating
and the like. There is a good online recipe involving Cilantro. Besides Cilantro, particularly cleansing foods
are those like fresh parsley, fresh lemon juice with cayenne pepper powder, good "green" drinks (like Garden ofLife brand), and the like.
The more alkaline balanced one gets, the more oxygen potential there is in the body. Course, you don't wantto get over alkaline either...this is actually hard to do naturally, but if done is much more quickly destructive tothe body physical then a tendency to a little over acidity.
I wish it was as easy as getting more sunshine, or just supplementing with one nutrient, alas, its rarely soeasy and one dimensional. Certainly the former can help, but it is not a cure all.
A greater, holistic experience of health oft takes a holistic and disciplined approach on many levels whether
talking diet, exercise, attitude, etc. I can't stress enough how important it is to keep the body balanced
between the acid and alkaline, especially by more alkaline reacting foods and combos and alkaline promoting
low impact aerobic exercise outside, like walking, and right attitude and counter balancing mental andemotional stress.
Meditation is an alkaline forming practice, there is actually a specific, alkalizing enzyme released in the bodyduring deeper meditation.
This balance is the base, and most fundamental issue in most health issues whether of lack of same, or radianthealth.
My wife met an older woman who "beat" her severe cancer via radically changing her diet to include much
more fresh, alive foods and by and through a more alkalizing diet.
For example, i've read that pretty much all people with cancer have severe over acidity levels measured inurine, saliva, etc. We're talking phs which turn those little pieces of paper almost yellow.
Btw, the whole acid alkaline thing can be confusing at first, especially since some foods are acid in their normal
state, but very alkaline reacting or forming when eaten under the proper conditions.
For example, lemons--extremely acid, but if eaten under the proper conditions, they are very alkaline reacting
or forming in nature, and this is primarily for two main reasons. They are very low calorie AND they have anabundance of negatively charged minerals--particularly they have a lot of potassium, with good amounts ofmagnesium.
When a food is digested, there is an "ash" left, and if this ash contains large amounts of these negatively
charged minerals like calcium, potassium, bio available forms of sodium (not the super treated crap in moststores), magnesium, etc. then especially if the food was lower calorie it tends to be alkaline forming.
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« Reply #31 - on: 15.05.2009 at 23:42 [UT+1] »Hmm, DJ...this is certainly something to think about here. Most of my "problems" are inflammatory in nature.
Would what you suggest include rapid loss in weight periodically (this could be due to stress, of course)? It
concerns me a little at times because there's not just a tremendous amount to me to begin with.
At thesetimes, I feel like I'm shrinking no matter how much I eat to try and conteract it.
Btw...I wonder why they couldn't figure a better name than "leaky gut".
digestion, but who knows? Right now, everything is an option for me.

I don't seem to have problems with

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« Reply #32 - on: 16.05.2009 at 00:47 [UT+1] »I use to have leaky gut. My naturopath said because I was allergic to lettuce, was one indication. I also hadcandida. Cutting out anything white; sugar, flour, rice., is a start. No soda (I never, well not quite never, drank
the stuff)!
Leaky gut is a porous small intestine, causing food and toxins into the blood stream, over taxing your liver.
The layer or barrier between food and intestine is compromised. You can get your blood toxicity levels tested.
The liver is a central part, indicator of internal health.
Steph, you are waaay too young to be having these issues already! When the body hits the age of 40, that iswhen our prior habits, if not resolved, come to bite us. I know, it was when I was 41 ALL this stuff came like afreight train.
I am concerned for you Steph, and I don't say that to many people! My d NN coming out...
idea how much better I feel now vs. then! It feels great to feel great!

You have no

I do wish I had your can eat anything problem! <tongue-n-cheek> Perhaps it is a benefit for me with having
weight issues, otherwise my inner health would suffer.
I just had my blood work done recently, all A's!
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« Reply #33 - on: 16.05.2009 at 02:10 [UT+1] »Aww, Lanette, you are so sweet!
Maybe my dAD is affecting your nurturing K?
You know, even though I don't exactly have a solution
right now, I have to say that you all have given me such important points to consider. I feel like I have much
more direction in where I need to focus when it comes to good ole doc. I think I'm definitely going to insist
that he refer me to a rheumatologist...if nothing else than to rule certain things out. Given my history withiritis/uveitis, I'm sure my Ophthamologist will back me up in checking any auto-immune stuff going on. Whatcan it hurt...maybe we'll find out it is something simple that I can manage without hardly any disruption. I'mvery excited about the thought of feeling great every morning. My iB likes that very much!
I just want to thank you for putting so much time and thought into sharing your personal experiences withthese types of issues. It makes it seem so much easier.
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« Reply #34 - on: 16.05.2009 at 02:30 [UT+1] »My PB- 28 a is o NA- 28 dIntennse, neuralgic- like head pains have returnedin the past 2 months...
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« Reply #36 - on: 16.05.2009 at 03:20 [UT+1] »Gosh, I just wish Steph you were in the Phoenix AZ area, I'd hook you up with my naturopath doc.
heck, I even referred one guy on a May '08 cruise. He felt so inspired by my changes, he called myWell,naturopathic doc in Arizona from Los Angles CA! I was stunned he followed through.
She starts from the top. Much like she says, the body can heal itself, one step at a time. I recall being in her
office the first time for two hours, walked out stunned! Felt like college, showing me charts, etc.
Prior, I was on anti-depressants for 9 years, 90 lbs. heavier, on my way to being diabetic, falling asleep at thewheel, joints aching, ALL my blood tests showed needing attention, my blood pressure was the only 'normal.' I
talked to gal at her office recently, she had at the time lost 130 pounds! The doc has countless stories of the
body healing itself, she is such an inspiration!
Be and get well, Lanette <6h NmC wounded healer>
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« Reply #37 - on: 17.05.2009 at 01:17 [UT+1] »There are a few medical astrology Google book previews here.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=N_1P5FYlB6UC
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« Reply #38 - on: 22.05.2009 at 22:22 [UT+1] »Quote from staverna on 16.05.2009 at 02:10 [UT+1]:
Aww, Lanette, you are so sweet!
Maybe mydAD is affecting your nurturing K?

You know, even though I don't exactly have a solution right now, I have to say thatyou all have given me such important points to consider. I feel like I have much more direction in where I need to focus when it comes togood ole doc. I think I'm definitely going to insist that he refer me to a rheumatologist...if nothing else than to rule certain things out.
Given my history with iritis/uveitis, I'm sure my Ophthamologist will back me up in checking any auto-immune stuff going on. What can it
hurt...maybe we'll find out it is something simple that I can manage without hardly any disruption. I'm very excited about the thought offeeling great every morning. My

iB likes that very much!

hi,
if you want to know your food senstivities you can do IMMUNOPRO-300 test.
gluten is the most antigenic food protein.than ,cow milk and cow cheese are in second antigenic.third one is egg yolk. these are the mostcommen results of my patient who did this test.but the results can be different ofchourse. stress management is very important for
immune system.the stress hormon cortisol is not good or health.
if want my help you may PM me, i hope you will fine.
I just want to thank you for putting so much time and thought into sharing your personal experiences with these types of issues. It makes
it seem so much easier.
Steph

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« Reply #39 - on: 22.05.2009 at 22:23 [UT+1] »hi,
if you want to know your food senstivities you can do IMMUNOPRO-300 test.
gluten is the most antigenic food protein.than ,cow milk and cow cheese are in second antigenic.third one isegg yolk. these are the most commen results of my patient who did this test.but the results can be different
ofchourse. stress management is very important for immune system.the stress hormon cortisol is not good or
health.
if want my help you may PM me, i hope you will fine.
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« Reply #40 - on: 23.05.2009 at 00:47 [UT+1] »Thank you so much, July4!
I would have no idea where to start without these comments. I've learned that I need to tell my doc what I
potentially need.
Thank you so much...that is so sweet of you!
Steph
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« Reply #41 - on: 23.05.2009 at 02:01 [UT+1] »Quote from Lisalou 2 on 13.05.2009 at 12:27 [UT+1]:
Hi Steph,
I have no knowledge of medical astrology so can't comment, unfortunately. I do, however, also have the

B I m. In my case, most of myailments have been stress related. I've noticed that I react very quickly to medications. I also think I'm sensitive to drugs with this aspect
in my chart. My physical health is very good so I've never been on medications for that. In fact, it's so good that I've never had to takeantibiotics & yet I'm in my mid 40s! I had a very bad drug reaction to an anti-depressant drug I took 5 years ago from which I had allmanner of side effects. Do hope you get some more responses on your thread.

I also have BmI, and I am certain that this is the reason I have had so many problems with reactions to
medications. I am extremely sensitive to side-effects and have too often had emotional disturbances due to
medication changes. I try to be careful in taking any new medication, but I've come to the conclusion thatsometimes medications only make things worse, at least for me.
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« Reply #42 - on: 23.05.2009 at 21:28 [UT+1] »Where in the natal would the 'genetic predispositions' show....??
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