 ENAstrodienst Forum Archive
Astrodienst Forum › English Language Area › Discussion: Psychological and General Shopping Cart

 My Astro24.01.2023 at 23:35 [UT]« Previous topic | Next topic

Astrology»Pages: 1
AUSTRALIAS CHART (Read 309 times)

Craig
Member

AUSTRALIAS CHART« on: 21.04.2007 at 06:18 [UT+1] »Hey there peoples.
What do you think of Australias Chart.
Some things going on here down under atm.
Federal Election in October/November
Water crisis/shortages
Possible food shortages
Govt Incompetence in dealing with the drought
Wasting money in fighting stupid foreign wars and adventures

Posts: 434
Gender:Unwavering support, even verging on being a tributary state of the US.
What do ya all think ?

Back to top

Australia_Chart.gif (attachment deleted)
IP Logged

unwomanEx Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #1 - on: 22.04.2007 at 03:33 [UT+1] »Hi Craig
What I think is interesting in this chart is the clear indication of sporting prowess (boring but true). Mars chart
ruler in sporting 5th trine Sun-Saturn conjunction in the 9th, suggesting both discipline and international
success. Also the dominance of Jupiter, in its own sign and ruling the 9th, pointing to the outward-looking
nature of Australia - we are open to the world, travel a lot, in some ways more aware of places beyond ourshores.
As to the recent problems you mention - it is clear that Pluto's slow journey across the major cluster of planetsin Australia's chart is having a transformative impact. Pluto's transit through Capricorn has been written about
in a number of places, as exposing the hypocrisy of governments and other administrative institutions, as well
as showing the upheaval in our natural environment (Capricorn being an earth sign). And naturally these twoare connected - have governments have paid attention or not to scientists and environmentalists on the issue
of global warming, extinction of species, etc? Perhaps with Australia being unusually ecologically sensitive andhaving a leader until recently wilfully blind to the fact of global warming and our role in it, we will be more
affected than many places by climate change.
Australia's Moon in Taurus suggests a strong link to the earth, to land, but interestingly it is unaspected, unless
you count a very wide trine to Mars (I wouldn't). Unaspected, it is as if our emotional heart is disconnected - tome this relates to our inability to integrate indigenous culture, to really feel everyone belongs here, to say'sorry' and move on.
Just a few thoughts to begin.
UnBack to top

IP Logged

Ariel1
Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #2 - on: 22.04.2007 at 10:25 [UT+1] »I always thought that Australia had a Libra Ascendant.

Posts: 926
Gender:Back to top
IP Logged

Ariel1

Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #3 - on: 22.04.2007 at 10:26 [UT+1] »Also Australia is ruled by Virgo and Sagittarius.

Posts: 926
Gender:Back to top

IP Loggedunwoman
Ex Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #4 - on: 22.04.2007 at 12:50 [UT+1] »Hi Sharon
Not if the chart ruler is the ruler of the Ascendant, as in the chart posted above, where Aries is the Ascendant
and therefore Mars is the chart ruler.
I am aware of different charts proposed for Australia by various astrologers - perhaps you could mention which
one you are referring to.
UnBack to top
IP Logged
Alan Knox

Ex Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #5 - on: 22.04.2007 at 14:21 [UT+1] »Any astrological description of Australia almost always mentions Sagittarius, and the sidereal chart would seem
to prove this, with the Sun conjunct Saturn in Sag in the ninth house. I've posted this chart below, it is thechart of the ceremonial proclomation of Australia's independence. If the Sun can be seen to represent the"father" of the nation, in this case England/Briatain, then the Sun-Saturn/Sag conjunction would seem to ring
true, as it represents Britain's involvement in governing foreign locales. The Moon in Aries also rings true asrepresenting the land; Aries is said to rule dry, desert areas and as everyone knows Australia is mostly desert.
Both Aries and Sagittarius indicate the nations obsession with sports, along with the 9th house Sun.
As for Pisces rising, this seems to corroborate with the fact that Britain's involvement with the land was coming
to an end, and it also colludes with the nations strong film-making industry. Ruler Neptune in the third houseindicates a nation prolific in the media and communications industry. With Pisces rising I instantly think ofNicole Kidman, Crocodile Dundee, Mad Max, Peter Weir and Baz Luhrmann. Also, the sails of the Sydney Opera
House strike me as fantasial on a Piscean scale, also indicating Pisces' love of the arts. Pisces also shows anation which is entirely surrounded by ocean.
Sharon is right though in that another likely chart for Australia gives Virgo rising and the Sun in the 4th house.
This is the chart for midnight, January 1st 1901, and represnts the legal implementation of federal
independence of the nation. Virgo rising would seem to collude with the nation being known throughout theworld for its wildlife creatures; koala bears, kangaroos. Steve Irwin springs to mind. Virgo rising would also
indicate the nations strength in the media industry throughout the world, while the 4th house Sun would
indicate a nation which is largely suburban in its lifestyle.
Take your pick.
Back to top

Australia.jpg (attachment deleted)
IP Logged

Ariel1
Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #6 - on: 22.04.2007 at 14:27 [UT+1] »Hi Unwoman
I couldn't tell you the time. It's just something that I read somewhere.

Posts: 926
Gender:Back to top
IP Loggedunwoman

Ex Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #7 - on: 23.04.2007 at 02:41 [UT+1] »Dear Alan
Thank you for posting the alternative chart (sidereal) and reminding me of the 'legal' time of Federation as
another potential birthtime for Australia. I am not competent to compare the Western chart with the sidereal
chart but believe they belong to mutually exclusive astrological systems and thus not really able to becompared. You either use one system or the other and I know only about Western astrology. Of course they
may be equally valid.
I do not think you need the sidereal chart to emphasise Sagittarius, after all Jupiter is in Sagittarius (as areUranus and Venus) and the 9th house is prominent in the first chart posted on this thread (though I'm not sure
why that chart is not set for Melbourne, where the Federation ceremony took place). The sidereal chart misses
the other strong emphasis -- on Capricorn -- which to me is a very accurate reflection of the hard-working,laconic, tough-minded conservatism of Australians.
Your comments suggest you are interpreting Australia from a position of someone outside Australia who has
not lived here, though of course I can't be sure of this. While Australia has at times had a healthy film industry
and has produced well-known film stars, its support of the arts in general is deeply cautious, critical andconservative - there is nothing like the respect or support for the arts that exists both in Europe and America toa much higher degree. It makes sense that Venus is stressed. I can't think of a place that feels less like itwould have a Pisces ascendant.
My pick would be the 1.25pm chart 1 January 2001 in Melbourne - I just noticed this is the one Liz Greene has
used on this site. Because this is a political chart, not a 'natural' one, whatever that might be, I think it conveys
less about the extraordinary variety of our flora and fauna that it does about how we value and manage thatwonderful natural legacy. Interesting though that the chart is all earth and fire, with no water - what a perfectimage of drought, desert and bushfire, not to mention of Australians' reserve in emotional expression.
Un
Back to top

IP Logged

Craig
Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #8 - on: 23.04.2007 at 06:32 [UT+1] »I set the chart @ 1.25 for Sydney, because thats where the guvner signed the nation into being.

Posts: 434
Gender:Back to top
IP Loggedunwoman

Ex Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #9 - on: 23.04.2007 at 08:46 [UT+1] »Hi Craig
You are right! My apologies. In case anyone wants more details to try out the different charts, I post thefollowing (taken from http://www.kidcyber.com.au/topics/federation.htm - dates confirmed on othersites):
In May 1900, the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 was passed by the British Parliament, andwas signed by Queen Victoria on 9th July 1900, and so became law. The Act declared that on 1st January 1901,
the colonies of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania would be united andknown as the 'Commonwealth of Australia' [hence the midnight chart – would the place be London?].
On 1st January 1901 the Commonwealth of Australia was proclaimed in Centennial Park, Sydney, by Lord
Hopetoun, the first Governor General.
The 1st Commonwealth Parliament was opened on 9 May 1901, at 12 p.m. in the Exhibition Building inMelbourne.
cheersUn
Back to top

IP LoggedCraig
Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #10 - on: 23.04.2007 at 11:10 [UT+1] »I see that John Howard is going to make a series of speeches entitled 'Australia Rising'.
I really dont like the implications and connitations that dredges up.
I heard him basically dismissing the environmentalist/global warming lobby - saying that Australia doesnt rateon the world scale in terms of emissions output.
The point is this, whether we count or not, big things start small, and we should be really pressuring this stupid
man to change his attitude. I think this will come later in the year when he is thrown out of Government(hopefully). Australia could set the standard, inspire the other big countries to change. Instead of being a
Posts: 434

follower we could be a leader.

Gender:Back to top
IP Logged
unwomanEx Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #11 - on: 23.04.2007 at 12:44 [UT+1] »He'll be out. And don't worry about his speeches - they'll be seen for what they are, a lot of desperate hot air.
Better to see to it that the other side is on the case.
UnBack to top

IP LoggedCraig
Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #12 - on: 23.04.2007 at 13:32 [UT+1] »I also see that theres a push from new zealand to adopt a new currency with Australia called the ANZAC lol.
Man, how times change, they were invited into the federation at the time of incarnation, or in the planningstages but they refused.
I hope this doesnt happen. New Zealand made its bed, so it has to lie in it.

Posts: 434
Gender:Back to top
IP Loggedmelianna

New Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #13 - on: 23.04.2007 at 15:50 [UT+1] »Hi, first at all apologies for my english, but i am italian woman, however I saw this chart and I think it's ok
because now the prices of houses are became very expensive so how show the transit of saturn in lion square
moon in taurus , what do you think?
cheersPosts: 4

Quote from Craig W on 21.04.2007 at 06:18 [UT+1]:
Hey there peoples.
What do you think of Australias Chart.
Some things going on here down under atm.
Federal Election in October/November
Water crisis/shortages
Possible food shortages
Govt Incompetence in dealing with the drought
Wasting money in fighting stupid foreign wars and adventures
Unwavering support, even verging on being a tributary state of the US.
What do ya all think ?

Back to top

IP LoggedCraig
Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #14 - on: 23.04.2007 at 16:07 [UT+1] »HI Melianna
I think you make a great point there.
But with the housing crisis also, lol, when the baby boomers all die off there will be an excess of housing.
Im 32, im being priced out of hte market. have no plans at all to buy a house that would be crazy, a 50 year
plan is something i wont commit to.

Posts: 434
Gender:Back to top
IP LoggedJennifer Henderson

Ex Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #15 - on: 26.04.2007 at 22:49 [UT+1] »Hi Craig,
I am in Tasmania, where are you?
I am living on Bruny Island and the prices here are going up and up.
Is it possible to do a chart on Bruny Island?
State forest are going to log again down here, there has been logging in the past and there is not much left.
Myself and others do not want any more logging, tourism is more sustainable on a small island.
What do you think?
Can a chart be done to see if they are going to be successful in logging the remaining forest?
Jenny
Back to top

IP LoggedCraig
Member

Re: AUSTRALIAS CHART« Reply #16 - on: 26.04.2007 at 22:54 [UT+1] »HI There
Im in Adelaide, SA.
I spose one for the whole of tasmania could be done.
I might cast one for south australia. 29 december 1836 @ 1pm or somethign id say.
IM not sure of Tasmanias establishment date ?
Posts: 434
Gender:Might do some research.
CheersCraig

Back to top
IP Logged
Pages: 1Astrodienst Forum › English Language Area › Discussion: Psychological and General« Previous topic | Next topic

Astrology»=> Discussion: Psychological and General Astrology

Go