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FireandIce
MemberTransit Pluto conjucnt Sun« on: 02.05.2018 at 11:23 [UT+1] »I just wanted to start my own thread on this topic as I feel it's truly a life changing transit. I don't know why or
where this idea came from but I have it set in my mind that I'm going to start flipping houses. Couldn't bemore J and for whatever reason it feels really right. So that's what I'm saving/working up to right now, but
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Gender:the internal process of knocking down what no longer works in order to rebuild is what's had to come first.
There's so much more I could say but don't even really know how to express everything that's been occurring.
For those of you who have already experienced this transit, I'd love to hear what happened?

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Chaselifeandlove

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #1 - on: 02.05.2018 at 18:13 [UT+1] »So, I have my Sun at 24 degrees Capricorn, and I think I may already be starting to see the early signs of thistransit. Pluto conjunct Sun is supposed to be associated with "leaving the past behind permanently". So, insome capacity, you lose access to your earlier life. In my case, it was literal. There was a fire in the storage
unit that I left behind in Ohio, when I moved back to the East Coast. I had no insurance on the unit. Most of
the artifacts of my past life were in that unit, and they are now gone for good.

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FireandIce
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #2 - on: 02.05.2018 at 21:42 [UT+1] »Quote from Chaselifeandlove on 02.05.2018 at 18:13 [UT+1]:
So, I have my Sun at 24 degrees Capricorn, and I think I may already be starting to see the early signs of this transit. Pluto

conjunct Sun is supposed to be associated with "leaving the past behind permanently". So, in some
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Gender:capacity, you lose access to your earlier life. In my case, it was literal. There was a fire in the storage unit that I left behind in Ohio,when I moved back to the East Coast. I had no insurance on the unit. Most of the artifacts of my past life were in that unit, and they are
now gone for good.

Omg yes thank you for articulating that. It's kind of literal for me too since I've moved around a lot, and in
moments of panic I'll find myself thinking "if I could just go back to this place or that place, maybe I'dremember who I am again". But there is no going back. I wanted independence (sun in 7th) and I got it. Who I
am and who I want to be is no longer tied to anyone else's expectations. The question is am I strong enough tokeep pushing through the wreckage and see things through in my new location.. Not really much of a choice atthis point.
I'd say I felt the early effects of this transit probably 2 years before it actually happened, so it's very possible
you're experiencing that now. Things are re-arranging themselves for the future, the more you resist the harder
it will be.
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FireandIce

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #3 - on: 02.05.2018 at 21:54 [UT+1] »Quote from Erik Heyninck on 02.05.2018 at 20:15 [UT+1]:
My daughter Eve also has the Sun at 24 Cap and will get the big wave around the time Pluto and Saturn will be in conjunction. She knows
it will be major in her life, and that it will be a huge possibility. I told her that it will be a time of confrontation with power. That either
she takes power and uses it as humanly and as wisely as possible - Ghandi or Hitler - and if she doesn't, someone will take power overPosts: 459
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She is very sensitive, vegetarian and environment activist and around the time Saturn entered Capricorn, she got a job at a bank where
she unexpectedly does very well and, in absence of her boss, had responsability over some 30 people. She managed to lead them very
well, so we get a hint of what is growing.
I told her about the Greek 'underworld', about Hades who was also called Ploutos, the rich one. How he lures people to associate theirego's with power and then tears off their masks. How Hitler failed because of his ego, and how Ghandi won by making himself
unimportant in the cause.
I also told her - she is a huge StarWars fan - about the relationship between the so-called light- and dark sides of the force, how the darkside often means using the Force for your own goals, even if you assume these goals to be 'good' and 'just'. And how the light side
weakens because it tends to lose its vigilance - habits. And how Pluto tears off old habits because there can be no place for new leaves ona tree when the old ones are still there. Shiva, creation and destruction.
She is well trained, my young Padawan, and she knows it will be a unique moment to become the one she is meant to be.
Apart from that, it is her life and her experience here on this sub-lunar plane.

Beautiful analogies Erik Heyninck! Tearing off the mask is a great way to describe it.. All the things and habitsthat gave me courage and confidence in the past are just simply not going to work anymore. I feel vulnerable
and exposed without the protection of the "ego". But this is the only way to connect with the authentic self andfind true power.
I've also been re-connecting with Taoism and other eastern philosophies (through meditation, yoga, etc.)..
"Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield."
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #4 - on: 03.05.2018 at 06:25 [UT+1] »I wont live long enough to see T pluto conj my sun but at the opposition I left my country of birth although
emoitnal ties are still there. at the sqr to my sun I left my adopted city after 30 years to move interstate and at
the conj to my MC left that place to move back interstate but to the city I live now. Pluot is currently at the
beginning of my 11th sextiling my sun house and I am pulling away people and groups I have known forseveral years.

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FireandIce

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #5 - on: 03.05.2018 at 10:39 [UT+1] »Quote from wanderribee on 03.05.2018 at 06:25 [UT+1]:
I wont live long enough to see T pluto conj my sun but at the opposition I left my country of birth although emoitnal ties are still there. at
the sqr to my sun I left my adopted city after 30 years to move interstate and at the conj to my MC left that place to move backinterstate but to the city I live now. Pluot is currently at the beginning of my 11th sextiling my sun house and I am pulling away people
and groups I have known for several years.

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Gender:Interesting, thanks for your reply! I left my home state 2 years ago and literally have not been back since then.
I always knew it's not where I wanted to end up, but the guilt and co-dependency with family members kept
me there too long (d south node). Wish I could say things magically fell into place after that but it's takensome time to find my footing.
My MC is 22 l so there's the q with T Pluto and T Uranus is finally leaving my 10th house.. So the time hascome to make some decisions regarding my "career".
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #6 - on: 07.05.2018 at 17:20 [UT+1] »Well, I had to add something. My Pluto is conjunct my sun opposite my moon in, what else, the 8th house. I
have had 5 serious relationships ( OK I'm old... 68 and hoping to reach 100). But the Pluto issue, all my past
relationships are "past". I do not talk or associate with my past. I have not found stability ( although it appears
my intercepted Capricorn in 1st house has provided some stability. So if you are alert you' know what sign is on
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the 8th.) I am now completly disassociated with my past, travelling in Europe looking for something I will neverfind but content.
I am used to Pluto drastically changing my life and accept it and actually enjoy it. Other signs, ( let's take
Cancer as an example) would find it dramatic to loose contact with the past..
I believe you can't avoid Pluto. One must let go of the past in order to embrace the future. I suspect it can bechallenging for astrological configurations that are sensitive to Pluto transits ( in an angular house for instance)
without it being a part of the nativity. So only thing I can say is that the only thing you can't avoid is death andtaxes. And guess who death is . ( Tarot card of death is change. It's inevitable.

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PlutotrineMars

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #7 - on: 08.05.2018 at 04:53 [UT+1] »I had mine in 2011-2012. I asked on the forum back then, and from what I gathered from the responses I got
was that it either completely empowers you in a way that helps you exercise your will on a situation to changeit, or the opposite happens- you lose something, but end up gaining something deeper. One guy said his wifeleft him during her transit, two people said they gave birth for the first time, and another person endured a
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Gender:brain injury, but it opened something else up in her life afterward.
I entered this transit thinking i would change my life- i became more ambitious and planned on studying
abroad, and then I became pregnant. It was a very transformative time in my life, and I’m sure that many firstpregnancies have similar themes, but for the majority of my pregnancy I became obsessed with my mortality, I
had a lot of fear about giving birth, and I got into crime dramas, which I never was into so much before orafter my pregnancy. My mind was in a deep and dark place. Anyway, giving birth for the first time was the mostbeautiful moment of my life, and in facing the unknown after going through all l those intense emotions
throughout my pregnancy, it took away much of my fear of death.
Expect the unexpected- it’s a balance between setting intentions and riding the wave of life.

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Linda Harris
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #8 - on: 09.05.2018 at 01:29 [UT+1] »I was very young when this happened to me. Still living at home. And home was not a safe nor friendly place.
And not because of any Pluto aspect in the natal.
However, had I been older I think I would have been able to protect myself better from some of the Pluto
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issues as I definitely have had other Pluto squares and oppositions and have been able to protect myself better
than I could as a kid.
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scorpiogal

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #9 - on: 09.05.2018 at 12:54 [UT+1] »I became pregnant with my first child. My A is p G, m C and o MC. My natal J is 5th and A 6th.

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Northern Lights
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #10 - on: 09.05.2018 at 14:48 [UT+1] »I have natal Pluto conjunct my IC and when Pluto was conjunct my sun exactly at 13 years of age, my father
passed away. My mother moved us to another state about a year afterwards.

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FireandIce

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #11 - on: 10.05.2018 at 00:29 [UT+1] »Quote from Frank Golle on 07.05.2018 at 17:20 [UT+1]:
Well, I had to add something. My Pluto is conjunct my sun opposite my moon in, what else, the 8th house. I have had 5 serious
relationships ( OK I'm old... 68 and hoping to reach 100). But the Pluto issue, all my past relationships are "past". I do not talk or
associate with my past. I have not found stability ( although it appears my intercepted Capricorn in 1st house has provided some stability.
So if you are alert you' know what sign is on the 8th.) I am now completly disassociated with my past, travelling in Europe looking for

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Gender:something I will never find but content.
I am used to Pluto drastically changing my life and accept it and actually enjoy it. Other signs, ( let's take Cancer as an example) wouldfind it dramatic to loose contact with the past..
I believe you can't avoid Pluto. One must let go of the past in order to embrace the future. I suspect it can be challenging for astrologicalconfigurations that are sensitive to Pluto transits ( in an angular house for instance) without it being a part of the nativity. So only thing I

😎. ( Tarot card of death is change. It's

can say is that the only thing you can't avoid is death and taxes. And guess who death isinevitable.

Ah yes well Geminis are a different breed
My i planets understand the need for change and newness,enjoying the journey into uncharted territory with no specific destination. However at this point in my life I'm
pretty sick of running, escaping, chasing after the next shiny thing. In fact my past has caught up with me inthe sense that there's no where left to run. If I want real change it's going to have to happen from the insideout.
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FireandIce
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #12 - on: 10.05.2018 at 00:31 [UT+1] »Quote from PlutotrineMars on 08.05.2018 at 04:53 [UT+1]:
I had mine in 2011-2012. I asked on the forum back then, and from what I gathered from the responses I got was that it either
completely empowers you in a way that helps you exercise your will on a situation to change it, or the opposite happens- you lose
something, but end up gaining something deeper. One guy said his wife left him during her transit, two people said they gave birth for the
first time, and another person endured a brain injury, but it opened something else up in her life afterward.

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Gender:I entered this transit thinking i would change my life- i became more ambitious and planned on studying abroad, and then I became
pregnant. It was a very transformative time in my life, and I’m sure that many first pregnancies have similar themes, but for the majorityof my pregnancy I became obsessed with my mortality, I had a lot of fear about giving birth, and I got into crime dramas, which I never
was into so much before or after my pregnancy. My mind was in a deep and dark place. Anyway, giving birth for the first time was themost beautiful moment of my life, and in facing the unknown after going through all l those intense emotions throughout my pregnancy, it
took away much of my fear of death.
Expect the unexpected- it’s a balance between setting intentions and riding the wave of life.

Thanks for sharing, interesting experiences. Life and death are intimately tied so I can imagine giving birthmight bring some of that to the forefront. I'd be lying if I said my mind also hasn't been in a deep and darkplace lately. Not that I want to die, more like I'd be ok with it if it happened. Which sounds awful but it reallyhas been a heavy time of contemplation. Finding it tremendously difficult to motivate myself to move forwardwith any type of plans, even if I have the tools and abilities needed.
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FireandIce

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #13 - on: 10.05.2018 at 00:32 [UT+1] »Quote from Linda Harris on 09.05.2018 at 01:29 [UT+1]:
I was very young when this happened to me. Still living at home. And home was not a safe nor friendly place. And not because of any
Pluto aspect in the natal.

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Gender:However, had I been older I think I would have been able to protect myself better from some of the Pluto issues as I definitely have had
other Pluto squares and oppositions and have been able to protect myself better than I could as a kid.
LainieHmm yeah there's not much we can do as children.. I can imagine how difficult and frustrating that must havebeen if it was experienced through other people and events. I was a kid when I had transit J conjunct B andthat was a pretty dark time too.
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FireandIce
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #14 - on: 10.05.2018 at 00:32 [UT+1] »Quote from scorpiogal on 09.05.2018 at 12:54 [UT+1]:
I became pregnant with my first child. My

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Gender:A is p G, m C and o MC. My natal J is 5th and A 6th.

Seems like pregnancy is a common theme! I don't know if I'll ever have kids but I am at an age where thereality of "there's only so much time" is setting in.

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #15 - on: 10.05.2018 at 00:33 [UT+1] »Quote from Northern Lights on 09.05.2018 at 14:48 [UT+1]:
I have natal Pluto conjunct my IC and when Pluto was conjunct my sun exactly at 13 years of age, my father passed away. My mothermoved us to another state about a year afterwards.

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Gender:Sorry to hear about your father.. that was my first thought when I knew this transit was coming up, issues withthe father. Death has been a theme for me in the past year or so. My sisters ex died in a very traumatic way, adeath of an extended family member left me with a small inheritance, an old friend committed suicide a few
months ago, and my grandpa died very recently.
All pretty surreal and again has left me grappling with larger existential questions.

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Northern Lights
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #16 - on: 10.05.2018 at 05:10 [UT+1] »Quote from FireandIce on 10.05.2018 at 00:33 [UT+1]:
Quote from Northern Lights on 09.05.2018 at 14:48 [UT+1]:
I have natal Pluto conjunct my IC and when Pluto was conjunct my sun exactly at 13 years of age, my father passed away.
My mother moved us to another state about a year afterwards.

Sorry to hear about your father.. that was my first thought when I knew this transit was coming up, issues with the father. Death has beena theme for me in the past year or so. My sisters ex died in a very traumatic way, a death of an extended family member left me with asmall inheritance, an old friend committed suicide a few months ago, and my grandpa died very recently.
All pretty surreal and again has left me grappling with larger existential questions.

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Gender:Thank you but now it seems so very long ago. Death of people is not always the outcome of this transit foreveryone but I was very struck by the exactness of the orb on the very day of his death. I know of one otherperson that lost their father with this transit. But the death of "something" occurs with intense Pluto transits.
Existential questions for sure but also a realization of what all these people meant to you and their meaning inyour life and how you will integrate that into your path forward. I am very sorry for all of those whom you
have lost. I found dealing with a death with Pluto involved to be a very lengthy process. Very long but also a
process that made me ultimately stronger and more free in being able to accept all the pain of a particularly
hard childhood and being able to let it go. I wish you well. They say Pluto has powerful gifts for those that get
through his transits and learn what they are meant to learn.
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #17 - on: 12.05.2018 at 06:15 [UT+1] »Quote from Northern Lights on 10.05.2018 at 05:10 [UT+1]:
Quote from FireandIce on 10.05.2018 at 00:33 [UT+1]:
Quote from Northern Lights on 09.05.2018 at 14:48 [UT+1]:
I have natal Pluto conjunct my IC and when Pluto was conjunct my sun exactly at 13 years of age, my father

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Gender:passed away. My mother moved us to another state about a year afterwards.

Sorry to hear about your father.. that was my first thought when I knew this transit was coming up, issues with the father.
Death has been a theme for me in the past year or so. My sisters ex died in a very traumatic way, a death of an extended
family member left me with a small inheritance, an old friend committed suicide a few months ago, and my grandpa diedvery recently.
All pretty surreal and again has left me grappling with larger existential questions.

Thank you but now it seems so very long ago. Death of people is not always the outcome of this transit for everyone but I was very struckby the exactness of the orb on the very day of his death. I know of one other person that lost their father with this transit. But the deathof "something" occurs with intense Pluto transits. Existential questions for sure but also a realization of what all these people meant to you
and their meaning in your life and how you will integrate that into your path forward. I am very sorry for all of those whom you have lost.
I found dealing with a death with Pluto involved to be a very lengthy process. Very long but also a process that made me ultimately
stronger and more free in being able to accept all the pain of a particularly hard childhood and being able to let it go. I wish you well.
They say Pluto has powerful gifts for those that get through his transits and learn what they are meant to learn.

Thank you, and yes the exactness of astrology can be crazy accurate.. Honestly the losses seem to have affected
the people close to me much more intensely than they have me directly. Although the suicide was quite ashock. He had natal A conjunct J actually. I saw him as one of the strongest people I knew.
And I have felt like I've gone through numerous metaphorical deaths of the relationships I've left behind withstill living friends and family members. Again my A is in 7th so after J crossed my Dsc I found myself in aposition of almost complete social isolation and self-reliance. That now feels "safe" to me. But part of thistransit will be about learning to open myself up to others again while still maintaining healthy boundaries.
Which is a delicate and sometimes treacherous balance. If I want to move forward with the type of career I'm
trying to obtain it's going to take a lot of networking. Like seriously a lot. And I honestly never saw myself in a"social" profession but it seems that's the way the chips are landing. It's not about getting a degree andfollowing the rules it's gonna have to be about forming and nurturing professional connections andrelationships. As for personal relationships, I feel like I spent the majority of my 20s focusing on only that.. soit's now time to shift gears.

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #18 - on: 19.05.2018 at 10:51 [UT+1] »I have a tight stellium of Jup, Sun Mer, Sat in Capricorn 5 hse and I have become a grandmother and anothergrandchild due in Sept. So I have been able to spend more time with my daughter.
I have urges and longings about changing my life but unable to because of health issues. Feel pretty stuck
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actually.
Pluto conjuncts my Virgo asc so it's personal.

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #19 - on: 19.05.2018 at 11:19 [UT+1] »I have a tight stellium of Jup, Sun Mer, Sat in Capricorn 5 hse and I have become a grandmother and anothergrandchild due in Sept. So I have been able to spend more time with my daughter.

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I have urges and longings about changing my life but unable to because of health issues. Feel pretty stuck
actually.
Pluto conjuncts my Virgo asc so it's personal.

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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #20 - on: 20.05.2018 at 08:47 [UT+1] »Quote from caplady on 19.05.2018 at 11:19 [UT+1]:
I have a tight stellium of Jup, Sun Mer, Sat in Capricorn 5 hse and I have become a grandmother and another grandchild due in Sept. So I
have been able to spend more time with my daughter.
I have urges and longings about changing my life but unable to because of health issues. Feel pretty stuck actually.

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Gender:Pluto conjuncts my Virgo asc so it's personal.

Congrats on the grandbabies! Feeling stuck.. I know what you mean. So if you have a Virgo Asc Leo rules your12th? Health problems and confinement because of them would make sense then.
Interesting how birth is once again a theme with this transit. I have natal J in 5th, where F is currently
transiting, but still definitely no plans of pregnancy. I checked and the last time F was transiting my 5th I lost
my virginity, lol. But not until it was in i conjunct my B. So predictable really..
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Re: Transit Pluto conjucnt Sun« Reply #21 - on: 21.05.2018 at 09:30 [UT+1] »Quote from FireandIce on 20.05.2018 at 08:47 [UT+1]:
So if you have a Virgo Asc Leo rules your 12th? Health problems and confinement because of them would make sense then.

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Ah! I didn't realise the 12 hse connection, being ruled by the sun.
I figured it was something to do with the traditional ruler of the 6, Saturn conjunct the sun, and Uranus
modern ruler of 6 in 12 hse. Jupiter is in fall next to sun as well. No good luck for me. And Mars energy planet
is in fall quindecile from Saturn.
I have been hoping with progressed Mercury chart ruler now going direct opposite Uranus that things willchange.

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