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SUN IN ARIES72
MemberExample of Astrology being ridiculed« on: 29.04.2018 at 20:27 [UT+1] »I was surprised to wake up and see that Jupiter retrograde and Scorpio moon made front page news of yahoo.
I tried to make some supporting comments but got harassed and called an idiot etc
you can see when you scroll down to comments.

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What causes astrology to be so unpopular today?
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/oh-god-april-full-moon-234933320.html?bcmt=1

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #1 - on: 29.04.2018 at 20:39 [UT+1] »idiocy?

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SUN IN ARIES72
Member« Reply #2 - on: 29.04.2018 at 20:42 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 29.04.2018 at 20:39 [UT+1]:
idiocy?

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Yes they are the foolish ones. I know there are those high up in celebrity, media and govt who practice
astrology. Why dont they promote it to the public more?
Is knowledge power?
My husband is a novice in astrology and I asked him to teach his friends and he refused. He said astrology gives
him a heads up on things, so why would he share it with others?
They will ridicule us anyways

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #3 - on: 26.04.2019 at 07:43 [UT+1] »and here another example of it...
this time the journalist bought an
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although she mentions serious astrologers the idea is that this is an easy job for all astrologers and they makeeasy money.
https://www.topic.com/the-fault-in-their-stars.

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #4 - on: 26.04.2019 at 18:35 [UT+1] »I see it all the time. studies of just the sun sign. when there are much more to a natal chart.
it is ignorance. and they really do not want to spend the time to learn even the basics. so they scoff at it.
ridicule it.
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Astrology been around a LONG time. for what it worth. William Lilly has honorable piece beside Winston
Churchill in England.
Yes, it irritates me. People who know nothing make remarks about something with no real knowledge. or makefun of the prices charged. easy money, your joking. people spend a long time learning astrology.
I believe not sure. they want to lump astrology, anything not conventional together and associate it withparanormal.
goes like this. Well, you use astrology, therefore you believe in ghosts. the dead speaking. anything out of the
norm.

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Ex Member« Reply #5 - on: 26.04.2019 at 19:53 [UT+1] »I’m seeing lots of astrologers going out of business. It’s a shamr but people are becoming more skeptical.
Now my family on the other hand , especially my sister, they are becoming more believing! Even my husband
admitted recently that astrology has a lot of truth in it. My sister has been studying her chart and transits.
As long as people keep telling me there birth info I do not care if they believe or not. I like astro and theinformation it provides.
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Member« Reply #6 - on: 26.04.2019 at 20:42 [UT+1] »Oh, where's the sense of humor?

Some of the astrology memes are hilarious

https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Opponents_of_Astrology
The Study of Wretched Subjects
Objections to Astrology and Feyerabend's The Strange Case of Astrology
Don't tell me I've wasted my money on Ebay ; I mean, come on, they're practically giving this stuff away!
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #7 - on: 26.04.2019 at 23:09 [UT+1] »Oops wrong picture! I hope this uploads, but I see myself as a 5 in this lol...or even a 7 in some cases.

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Ex Member« Reply #8 - on: 26.04.2019 at 23:43 [UT+1] »Very funny!
Quote from astrorose on 26.04.2019 at 23:09 [UT+1]:
Oops wrong picture! I hope this uploads, but I see myself as a 5 in this lol...or even a 7 in some cases.

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ninetyninepercent

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #9 - on: 26.04.2019 at 23:44 [UT+1] »I really hope it never becomes popular, too much power in it to be abused.

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #10 - on: 27.04.2019 at 08:48 [UT+1] »yeah, funny,
but isnt that too much on Sun signs? like this one...."Capricorns need not to apply?"....
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #11 - on: 27.04.2019 at 12:55 [UT+1] »Quote from astrorose on 26.04.2019 at 23:09 [UT+1]:
Oops wrong picture! I hope this uploads, but I see myself as a 5 in this lol...or even a 7 in some cases.

I'm at #5 - always have been and will probably remain there.
PS Hey, Astrorose, what's with #10? We're both Taurus!
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #12 - on: 27.04.2019 at 14:42 [UT+1] »To the OP:
Decades ago I STOPPED justifying my studies in astrology and the subject of astrology itself.

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The SECOND I realize that the person I am addressing has a preconceived negative opinion about astrology I
end the conversation. If I like the person I will begin another topic or change the focus to the other person.
NEVER get into a situation where you have to defend astrology. Especially on social media. There will be trolls
who will LOVE the fact that they are pissing you off and making you waste time doing this.
Never discuss astrology with anyone who is obviously closed minded about astrology. The only person you
need to satisfy regarding the validity of this science is YOU.
I know: it's hard to change behaviors in this way. But remember that every "new" science and subject was met
with derision when it first became public.
Vaccines: find out about the war that was waged regarding this medical advance. And this is again a war.
Psychiatry: OH MY GOD.....how long did it take for this to become mainstream.
HOw many people died trying to prove man could fly?
Because astrology is a very personal and subjective, and the teaching of astrology is NOT mainstream, there will
always be people who will take advantage of this as a way of fighting, insulting and deriding. Maybe later inthis age of Aquarius astrology WILL be taught in all colleges.
BUT: as long as there are people who believe that astrology is some sort of religion or can replace religion or isbattling belief in God, this crap will not end.
We all know this happens. It should not be a surprise. Ignore it.
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #13 - on: 27.04.2019 at 17:07 [UT+1] »Quote from SUN IN ARIES72 on 29.04.2018 at 20:27 [UT+1]:
I was surprised to wake up and see that Jupiter retrograde and Scorpio moon made front page news of yahoo.
I tried to make some supporting comments but got harassed and called an idiot etc
you can see when you scroll down to comments.
What causes astrology to be so unpopular today?
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/oh-god-april-full-moon-234933320.html?bcmt=1

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First of all, we have to realize that we are perhaps nearing the tail end of a HUGE worldwide cultural movementin scepticism, probably begun by Richard Dawkins, but quickly followed by figures in academia: Christopher
Hitchens, Sam Harris, Bill Nye, Michael Shermer, Mr. Deity (Brian Keith Dalton) etc etc. It was part of Pluto in
Capricorn and was not a bad thing, as it was, and still is, forcing people to develop their intellects, be rational,
and break down some of the evils caused by superstitions which have no rational basis. For example the Bible
as history, has, I think, now been discredited through evidence, and is seen as more metaphor and psychology.

But I've noticed that this movement has broken down often, because people just haven't bothered to find out
what astrology (for example) in its modern form, is really saying. A good example of this is the scientist Bill
Nye (the "science guy"). Nye claims that astrologers still think that the constellations influence us directly andthat therefore we are deluded because they are not in the same positions as newspaper Sun signs.
Nye could have done some simple research - after all he does claim to be a scientist - and realized that Western
astrologers use the Tropical Zodiac. But he chose to be lazy and tried to ridicule astrology instread. I think it isall backfiring on him now.
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Ex Member« Reply #14 - on: 27.04.2019 at 18:16 [UT+1] »Quote from Catsratz on 27.04.2019 at 12:55 [UT+1]:
Quote from astrorose on 26.04.2019 at 23:09 [UT+1]:
Oops wrong picture! I hope this uploads, but I see myself as a 5 in this lol...or even a 7 in some cases.

I'm at #5 - always have been and will probably remain there.
PS Hey, Astrorose, what's with #10? We're both Taurus!

I laughed out loud while reading that, I don't know what's up with that honestly, as a b, I'm pretty chill don't
know why anyone wouldn't speak to us.
On another note, I think astrology will get "back to basics" once J enters k. People will slowly start to be fed
up with YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, etc., media platforms used to sell misinformed, extremelycommercialized, sensationalize "fast-food" astrology to the masses who don't want to do the work andunderstand their natals but rather instead being told what they want to hear.
Maybe for those ridiculing astrology (radical intellects, science mega-lovers. etc.), would they change theirstance once AI machines produce more accurate natal readings? Is that even possible? They're so gullible. Just
let a robot do it and they'll believe again. Even though belief is not a requirement to learn astrology.
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #15 - on: 27.04.2019 at 18:28 [UT+1] »Quote from SUN IN ARIES72 on 29.04.2018 at 20:27 [UT+1]:
I was surprised to wake up and see that Jupiter retrograde and Scorpio moon made front page news of yahoo.
I tried to make some supporting comments but got harassed and called an idiot etc
you can see when you scroll down to comments.
What causes astrology to be so unpopular today?
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/oh-god-april-full-moon-234933320.html?bcmt=1

Edited:Every tool is useless to him who does not know how to use it.
Individuals are not created to use every tool. Astrology tells us as much. Maybe we are created parts of a whole, designed
to work together.
Ad hominem arguments, from either side, is what creates the divide.
Humility is what is missing in every self-righteous community.
If the truth is the truth it can stand a little knocking. The truth stands up for itself.
Not everyone needs to appreciate the art of key cutting. The world is not going to end, if they don't.
Pick your battles. Pick the ones worth fighting. There are plenty.

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #16 - on: 27.04.2019 at 23:02 [UT+1] »With time I've learned that the more confident I was when telling about my interest in astrology, the more
people were ready to respect that, and actually show interest themselves. Usually they start asking about their
Sun signs.. but years ago, I was afraid of other people's judgement, and when they sensed that, somehow thatwould backfire on me.
I've talked with many intelligent skeptics through the years, they were even the more open minded. Now I havea Cancer colleague at work, a very religious person, who calls me "satanic" ()... and doesn't want to tell histime of birth 'cause that's against the Church. BTW, after some time I was trying to interpret the elements I
knew of him, he began to tell me that he's probably a mix of Cancer and Leo, because he's born on July 21th,Posts: 1244

so that makes him a special Cancer, "doesn't it?". I'm still Satan though.
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #17 - on: 27.04.2019 at 23:21 [UT+1] »Quote from astrorose on 27.04.2019 at 18:16 [UT+1]:
Quote from Catsratz on 27.04.2019 at 12:55 [UT+1]:
Quote from astrorose on 26.04.2019 at 23:09 [UT+1]:
Oops wrong picture! I hope this uploads, but I see myself as a 5 in this lol...or even a 7 in some cases.

I'm at #5 - always have been and will probably remain there.
PS Hey, Astrorose, what's with #10? We're both Taurus!

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Gender:I laughed out loud while reading that, I don't know what's up with that honestly, as aspeak to us.

b, I'm pretty chill don't know why anyone wouldn't... ... ...

There once was a reply made by a member here (an awesome astrologer by any measure) who said (and I'mparaphrasing cuz the quote is no where to be found), that trying to have a conversation with a Taurus (Iassume over dinner) made her want to stick a fork in her (own) eye.

That meme is probably a fridge note at her place.

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Ex Member« Reply #18 - on: 28.04.2019 at 00:42 [UT+1] »A fork in her eye? Wow. lol. Yeah, I heard Taurus are notorious for being kind of "boring" in conversations.
Well these astrology memes are hilarious, those who ridicule astrology are missing out the fun honestly...way
more funny than those poorly executed "jokes" from that Yahoo article.
"Artist Creates Hilarious Comics Showing How Different Zodiac Signs Apologize"
https://www.artfido.com/artist-creates-hilarious-comics-showing-how-different-zo diac-signsapologize/
Taurus: "Stop being mad, I'm starving, Chinese tonight"?
Promise, my last meme post. Don't want to derail.

(and I ate Chinese yesterday too, interesting.)

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ninetyninepercent

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #19 - on: 28.04.2019 at 11:39 [UT+1] »PNS, Love the memes, thanks, I had no idea such treasure troves existed. Particularly the Leo pisstake with
Obama.

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Waybread
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #20 - on: 29.04.2019 at 04:56 [UT+1] »There is so much schlock astrology out there, that we can hardly blame people for being skeptical.
Take the example of sun-sign columns. Supposedly 1/12 of the population will have the same thing happen tothem on a given day.

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Member« Reply #21 - on: 01.05.2019 at 15:07 [UT+1] »Quote from Apostrophe on 27.04.2019 at 17:07 [UT+1]:
But I've noticed that this movement has broken down often, because people just haven't bothered to find out what astrology (forexample) in its modern form, is really saying. A good example of this is the scientist Bill Nye (the "science guy"). Nye claims thatastrologers still think that the constellations influence us directly and that therefore we are deluded because they are not in the same
positions as newspaper Sun signs.
Nye could have done some simple research - after all he does claim to be a scientist - and realized that Western astrologers use theTropical Zodiac. But he chose to be lazy and tried to ridicule astrology instread. I think it is all backfiring on him now.

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Gender:Well, honestly Astrology is fairly incompatible with our current scientific understanding of the world. We takeplanet locations in the sky and say that they have an energetic effect. So... through which force? Gravity? Then
how come we say some tiny planetoids like J and N can have as great of an effect as a giant, closer planet likeF? There is quite a subset of us that also put a lot of faith in the effect of named Asteroids for example. Maybe
we're wrong to do so: take a look at the following answer to the question on statistical analysis of Astrology:
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-statistical-evidence-in-support-of-astrology- Have-thereever-been-any-attempts-at-scientific-controlled-experiments-to-statistically-test-astrologicalpredictions/answer/Dale-Strickler-1
Personally I choose to have fun with Astrology, but I don't take it as gospel and I certainly don't blame others
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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #22 - on: 01.05.2019 at 20:18 [UT+1] »Good point, let’s take this whole with a pinch of salt and humor.. ok. But I chose to believe in the "unknown"
too, which is not so unknown if our experiences can confirm it, and it's not so unknown if we get how it works.
Some statistical tests proved astrology works, some other refuted it. But are we sure our tests are thorough?
Are we sure we have the proper tools to calculate something so beyond our comprehension? I like to believethat the universe is connected, that if a distant planetoid like Pluto were missing, the balance we call“normality” would be different. I like to think that we, like the plants and the animals, tiny parts of this big
Earth we’re on, floating trough space in a cosmic collaboration with everything else, we’re all subjected to thepower of the stars, somehow…
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Member« Reply #23 - on: 01.05.2019 at 21:19 [UT+1] »Well sure. We don't know what we don't know. Astrology could be 100% true - due to a phenomenon we do
not understand or have not found yet.

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Ex Member« Reply #24 - on: 01.05.2019 at 22:12 [UT+1] »Quote from Roland303 on 01.05.2019 at 20:18 [UT+1]:
Some statistical tests proved astrology works, some other refuted it. But are we sure our tests are thorough? Are we sure we have theproper tools to calculate something so beyond our comprehension? I like to believe that the universe is connected, that if a distantplanetoid like Pluto were missing, the balance we call “normality” would be different. I like to think that we, like the plants and theanimals, tiny parts of this big Earth we’re on, floating trough space in a cosmic collaboration with everything else, we’re all subjected tothe power of the stars, somehow…

My sentiments, exactly. But, statistically speaking, take a top notch horary astrologer and test the accuracy of
their predictions. Not only are the predictions accurate representations of physical manifestations, but temporal
manifestations, too. Therefore, it can be proven that astrology works. It is another matter, whether we can everprove, how it works.
I see our solar system as a cell in the body that is the universe. The organelles within a cell interact, naturally.
It's all an interconnected web. What one cell does in my brain is connected to what another cell does in my toe.
The separation that some perceive between us and them is merely intellectual, a reflection of the (limited)
human mind. Whatcanyoudo.

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Ex Member« Reply #25 - on: 02.05.2019 at 00:29 [UT+1] »It all moves like clockwork, above and below. It's like opening a Swiss watch and observing the intricacies of thesystem that works together. Or, simply, using a sundial. Above and below, timing is everything. I'm glad someridicule this commodity because, that way, they are far from exploiting it. Astrology should not be in the wrong
hands.

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #26 - on: 11.05.2019 at 02:23 [UT+1] »I suppose on the English speaking world this is more extreme than elsewhere. Historically it might be related toit's own prouds - Newton, Hume, etc - and also for the embarassment of dominating the marvellous ancientIndia for a long time. After WW2 with the growth of English influence matters on occultism changed a lot
worldwide, on the first half of the century there were way more erudite people openly going to it - French andPosts: 216

German are way more easy with it. What saved it a lot was the Hippie movement, when English rebirthedoccultism for the world - though most on popular ground, little changing the more institutional, formal placesof thought.
Where I live Astrology has not much attention because most people prefer Magic. There are Science proselitism
at some snob places, but there's not a confidence that the Masses will follow it.
In English, however, I always see such an intensity of Science proselitism that I wonder if that's really lessprejudicial than other kinds...
The truth is that most of humanity believe in a whole lot of mythologies and mysterious traditions and customs
that go far beyond a XIX positivist mind - schools exist to change it, but it seems, happily, that they cannot.
There are two pearls about this matter that I keep on mind,
first,
that Borges seems to not have openly declared to believe on mysteries. His quotes, as far as I know, areambiguous and more in detriment of Occultism. Reallly!
And second, Aracy Guimarães Rosa was once asked by a journalist, a few time after her husband had passed
away, if he used to believe in esoterism, mystical things... And she answered:"If you know it, why you are asking?!"
Those two cases are quite exemplary of the situation of metaphysics on the second half of XX century.

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #27 - on: 13.05.2019 at 19:12 [UT+1] »[quote author=Linda Harris link=1525030038/0#12 date=1556372537]To the OP:
Decades ago I STOPPED justifying my studies in astrology and the subject of astrology itself.
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Gender:The SECOND I realize that the person I am addressing has a preconceived negative opinion about astrology I
end the conversation. If I like the person I will begin another topic or change the focus to the other person.
NEVER get into a situation where you have to defend astrology. Especially on social media. There will be trolls
who will LOVE the fact that they are pissing you off and making you waste time doing this.
Never discuss astrology with anyone who is obviously closed minded about astrology. The only person you
need to satisfy regarding the validity of this science is YOU.
I know: it's hard to change behaviors in this way. But remember that every "new" science and subject was met
with derision when it first became public.
Vaccines: find out about the war that was waged regarding this medical advance. And this is again a war.
Psychiatry: OH MY GOD.....how long did it take for this to become mainstream.
HOw many people died trying to prove man could fly?
Because astrology is a very personal and subjective, and the teaching of astrology is NOT mainstream, there will
always be people who will take advantage of this as a way of fighting, insulting and deriding. Maybe later inthis age of Aquarius astrology WILL be taught in all colleges.
BUT: as long as there are people who believe that astrology is some sort of religion or can replace religion or isbattling belief in God, this crap will not end.
We all know this happens. It should not be a surprise. Ignore it.
LainieThis^.
People will believe what they want to believe. No use trying to change their minds.
Maybe it's better that everyone doesn't know the truth about astrology. But, it can be lonely at the top,
sometimes. Or outside, looking in.
It's a shame, though. The world could be a better place if astrology was more mainstream. But also maybe
much worse, if in the wrong hands.
I laugh to see prominent and very intelligent people simply have no clue, largely because of the self-imposed
restrictions on their belief system. One that won't open a crack to let some light into it once in a while.
I guess the world needs all kinds of people. One group, or even a couple, cant' do it all.

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Re: Example of Astrology being ridiculed« Reply #28 - on: 14.05.2019 at 21:51 [UT+1] »Well, I guess that, as Liz Greene says in " Astrology for Lovers", Nature is jealous with its mysteries...
Or, as some say, God' s ways are unfathomable...

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Member« Reply #29 - on: 25.05.2019 at 06:34 [UT+1] »Quote from ninetyninepercent on 26.04.2019 at 23:44 [UT+1]:
I really hope it never becomes popular, too much power in it to be abused.

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It already is (with the wrong people using it for the wrong reasons), and I think it already has :/ I can see
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