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etherea
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« on: 16.09.2017 at 12:26 [UT+1] »There isn't that much "out there" in terms of info on this topic, so throwing it up for discussion here.
How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solar arc,
converse progressions, transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.? I would imagine that the outer planet
contacts would be the most noticeable, and I am looking at a Pluto (planet of fate) transit upcoming to mynatal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the next while, which has sharpened my interest.
There are a few relationship "goings-on" in my world (with more than one person, as it happens) to verify the
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importance, and I am unsure as to whether someone else more in the family set-up may be passing away (falls
in 2h/8h axis in my chart).
Here are some links to start us off:
https://thezodiac.com/notworth.htm
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-vertex-in-the-natal-chart
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/vertex.html
http://www.uranian-institute.org/bfvertex.htm

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melekusha

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« Reply #1 - on: 17.09.2017 at 02:41 [UT+1] »Ahh I don't know cause I got electric axis as natal O
Exact s my Asc
That is my daily and O natal 7 H ruling
My 12 H ....3 planets in my 12 H. ..including Cl
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Vertex though is. ....2 degrees m my 7 H cusp
Separating. ....and exact o Mc... IC
Hmmm I have exact G on IC
Yes fatal gates or how ever they are called I have experience it
Out of my control. ....
My Op my G on IC. ....there are good fatalistic insidents
And then there are those that one must just toughen up.....
So wow my Go Vertex
I never take this into a consideration......
Ty for the links

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etherea
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« Reply #2 - on: 17.09.2017 at 08:51 [UT+1] »Quote from melekusha on 17.09.2017 at 02:41 [UT+1]:

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Ahh I don't know cause I got electric axis as natal
Exact my Asc
That is my daily andnatal 7 H ruling
My 12 H ....3 planets in my 12 H. ..including....
Vertex though is. ....2 degrees my 7 H cusp
Separating. ....and exact
Mc... IC
Hmmm I have exact
on IC
Yes fatal gates or how ever they are called I have experience it
Out of my control. ....
My
myon IC. ....there are good fatalistic insidents
And then there are those that one must just toughen up.....

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Cl

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G

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So wow myVertexI never take this into a consideration......
Ty for the links

Wow, that would make for very interesting synastry, as well, if you have contacts to that axis with others....
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Nikki.

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Member« Reply #3 - on: 17.09.2017 at 13:10 [UT+1] »Hey Etherea, I was reading a short kindle book on synastry and it was mentioning the vx and how the aspects
to it show how significant people enter our lives.
This resonated but not sure how exactly
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Gender:My own experience of vertex is that unless its emphasized by something else like SA, SR placement, SP before
to make it sensitive to a lunation or trigger transit.
So my vertex aspects my angles and then by asteriods [\Z

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etherea

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Member« Reply #4 - on: 17.09.2017 at 14:22 [UT+1] »Quote from Nikki. on 17.09.2017 at 13:10 [UT+1]:
Hey Etherea, I was reading a short kindle book on synastry and it was mentioning the vx and how the aspects to it show how significant
people enter our lives.
This resonated but not sure how exactly
My own experience of vertex is that unless its emphasized by something else like SA, SR placement, SP before to make it sensitive to a
lunation or trigger transit.
So my vertex aspects my angles and then by asteriods

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Thanks, Nikki
Have you had any important relationships where this axis is connected to the other's chart?

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Nikki.

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Member« Reply #5 - on: 17.09.2017 at 14:57 [UT+1] »In the ones i know about yes (all types of relationships), but there have been much more compelling aspect.

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I think that's the crux of my issue with the meaning of the vx axis, whilst I do feel its important, its nevercompelling so that it stands out well enough.Those connections also do not mean permanence or postive
connections either , just significance

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etherea

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Member« Reply #6 - on: 17.09.2017 at 16:27 [UT+1] »Quote from Nikki. on 17.09.2017 at 14:57 [UT+1]:
Those connections also do not mean permanence or postive connections either , just significanceyes, agreed - depending upon the type of relationship.
However, I do think it is worth taking into account.
Someone important to me currently has Moon on my Vx and POF on Anti-Vx, and that Electric Axis of mine
falls on his MC/IC Axis.
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Someone in my past who was very important, has his Vx on my natal Venus, and Sun, MC, Chiron in trine to
my natal Vx.
Another important past relationship - his Electric Axis plus Nodal Axis plus Asc/Desc Axis all falling exactly on
my MC/IC axis (it was a very intense relationship, believe me...

).

I think the Axis to Axis contacts bring a very strong connection.
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Alice Portman

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« Reply #7 - on: 18.09.2017 at 05:25 [UT+1] »I have written extensively about the Vertex axis as I have been working with it from the late 70'..
the articles here: http://aliceportman.com/category/vertex-axis/

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Arihant

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Member« Reply #8 - on: 18.09.2017 at 07:13 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 17.09.2017 at 16:27 [UT+1]:

Someone important to me currently has Moon on my Vx and

Doubt is about whether B person is aware of fatedness with which Vx person is viewing the relationship....i've
experienced it as more of onesidedness .....
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etherea

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« Reply #9 - on: 18.09.2017 at 10:34 [UT+1] »Quote from Arihant on 18.09.2017 at 07:13 [UT+1]:
Quote from etherea on 17.09.2017 at 16:27 [UT+1]:

Someone important to me currently has Moon on my Vx and
Doubt is about whether

B person is aware of fatedness with which Vx person is viewing the relationship....i've experienced it as more ofonesidedness .....

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Thanks, Arihant. I suppose that also depends upon the rest of the individual charts and the synastry charts,
too - in my case, there are lots of other contacts including tight nodal contacts.
Did you have anything else making contact with this other person's chart, or just the Moon/Vx?

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melekusha
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Re: Electric Axis and your experiences.
« Reply #10 - on: 18.09.2017 at 13:14 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 17.09.2017 at 08:51 [UT+1]:
Quote from melekusha on 17.09.2017 at 02:41 [UT+1]:
Ahh I don't know cause I got electric axis as natal
Exact my Asc

OsThat is my daily andPosts: 2425
Gender:O natal 7 H ruling

My 12 H ....3 planets in my 12 H. ..including....
Vertex though is. ....2 degreesClm my 7 H cuspoSeparating. ....and exact
Mc... IC
Hmmm I have exact
on IC

G

Yes fatal gates or how ever they are called I have experience it
Out of my control. ....
My
myon IC. ....there are good fatalistic insidents

OpG

And then there are those that one must just toughen up.....
So wow myVertexGo

I never take this into a consideration......
Ty for the links

Wow, that would make for very interesting synastry, as well, if you have contacts to that axis with others....

Yeah but I always thought that it is my Dk in 12 house reacting. ....all my relationships feel karmic. ..I getsighs before I meet a person and sometimes they get sighs they will meet me lol
Friends or partners to be. ....
My Ds vertex 1 degree cause
DGO are in air trine. ...
I'm in relationship and still talk to all others that I had
Sighs of some sort with. ....
It does feels like gates are opening and some energy is flows between us I see it. .......with some other visionlol
It is too overwhelming. ....
The joy of meeting is mutual. ....it's hard to be apart
At start. ....even with female friends
We got to share our lives. ...
I thought it was my grand air trine .... including 12h and IC
But vertex is involved
Hmmm would you say it is vertex that activates it?
I btw don't know not fateful encounters. .....
I'm friendly people talk to me on the street
I may talk to most of the people in my neighbourhood ...but only end up
Keeping up with people that I had those special experience with
I'm curious now. ......
PS....Have some people that are no longer in touch for over 15 years
Some have died. .....
One I had huge bad dreams... .about .... right before our meetingHis vertex exact n my A 1H......
Can I call vertex a karmic gate exchange?
What is it? .....I read few articles now. ..and still no clue

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Nikki.

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« Reply #11 - on: 18.09.2017 at 14:34 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 17.09.2017 at 16:27 [UT+1]:
Quote from Nikki. on 17.09.2017 at 14:57 [UT+1]:
Those connections also do not mean permanence or postive connections either , just significancePosts: 11620
Gender:yes, agreed - depending upon the type of relationship.
However, I do think it is worth taking into account.
Someone important to me currently has Moon on my Vx and POF on Anti-Vx, and that Electric Axis of mine falls on his MC/IC Axis.
Someone in my past who was very important, has his Vx on my natal Venus, and Sun, MC, Chiron in trine to my natal Vx.
Another important past relationship - his Electric Axis plus Nodal Axis plus Asc/Desc Axis all falling exactly on my MC/IC axis (it was avery intense relationship, believe me...

).

I think the Axis to Axis contacts bring a very strong connection.

Yes but put that aside and does the synastry aspects will remain strong ?
Because that's the crux of what I am saying , whilst it can be important usually there are stronger significations, yes it can feel dated but what does that actually mean for making decisions about the connection . In isolation
as an aspect what does it tell you?
Whilst it can bring you together , it doesn't hold you together .
So how can we use it tangibly is really what I am struggling to understand , I can see it as a turning point as
those people have been in my life but many are thankfully no longer in it.
Sun and moon conjunctions tend to be more successful for me on longevity and positive connections . A vx
transit might bring them into my life but the other aspects hold jt
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etherea
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« Reply #12 - on: 18.09.2017 at 15:18 [UT+1] »Quote from Nikki. on 18.09.2017 at 14:34 [UT+1]:. A vx transit might bring them into my life but the other aspects hold jt

This, I think is true in a lot of cases,
In the other instances I gave, the other connections were not really that strong, so the angular contacts were
telling the story.
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I agree about other features of the chart, but just trying to focus on this particular axis for now, to isolate
some of its significations in our experience. There is plenty beyond plenty written about other synastry factors,
but not that much on this axis.
Not that easy to tease out if there are strong factors elsewhere, I agree, but worth seeing what else gives.

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etherea

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« Reply #13 - on: 18.09.2017 at 15:22 [UT+1] »Quote from melekusha on 18.09.2017 at 13:14 [UT+1]:
His vertex exact

n my A 1H......

Can I call vertex a karmic gate exchange?
What is it? .....I read few articles now. ..and still no clue

This would indicate that his Anti-Vx was in your 7h, so providing a clue there for you.
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Interesting about the connections between Venus and your Vx, also, and anybody touching off your Venus with
their Vx/Anti-Vx would also trine your Saturn and Uranus, perhaps giving you a feeling of excitement andpotential longevity of relationship at the same time.
I am always wary of using the word "karma" about a meeting - the answer is that nobody knows. It isn't
provable in any way.
Ultimately, the only way we can decide is to watch how the relationship plays out, and draw our conclusions
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« Reply #14 - on: 18.09.2017 at 15:34 [UT+1] »I personally believe that VxmAsc is *highly* significant.

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etherea

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« Reply #15 - on: 18.09.2017 at 15:37 [UT+1] »Quote from Three Little Birds on 18.09.2017 at 15:34 [UT+1]:m

I personally believe that Vx Asc is *highly* significant.

Thanks, TLB - can you elaborate?

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« Reply #16 - on: 18.09.2017 at 15:45 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 16.09.2017 at 12:26 [UT+1]:
How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solar arc, converse progressions,transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.? I would imagine that the outer planet contacts would be the most noticeable, and I am
looking at a Pluto (planet of fate) transit upcoming to my natal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the next while, which has sharpened myinterest.

Uranus and Neptune each transited my vertex (18k) in 2000 and 2006, yes, very noticeable. A time offeeling a greater wheel behind the wheel, kind of like the Flammarion engraving of the kneeling person
discovering the cuckoo clock gears behind the sky.
I remember I was walking with my sister down the road (the limits of my social life) in 2000 and we werediscussing astrology, Neptune in Aquarius and the upcoming Saturn in Gemini opposition to Pluto. I said
something about the Gemini glyph resembling the Twin Towers and the possibility of another terrorist attack onthem and we left it at that. I'm sure many others had similar premonitions in those times.
In 2004 as Neptune was slowly inching up to the vertex I told her that I was going to let my savings run out
and hit the road again probably in the late autumn of 2005. I had a sense of those submerged Neptunian
antikythera gears and just knew and there was nothing needing to be done about it. And in the late autumn I
was on the road again. And I washed up on the west coast and (certainly didn't foresee this) ended up in a twoyear relationship with a Al.

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etherea

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« Reply #17 - on: 18.09.2017 at 16:05 [UT+1] »Quote from Alice Portman on 18.09.2017 at 05:25 [UT+1]:
I have written extensively about the Vertex axis as I have been working with it from the late 70'.. You can find the articles here:
http://aliceportman.com/category/vertex-axis/

Thank you Alice - much appreciated and very interesting articles, too.
If we take the charts between myself and someone current in my life:

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My Ceres conjunct Vx, my 8h (also close to the Saturn/Chiron midpoint - ouch).
His 9h moon and MC/IC axis conjunct both.
His Vx conjunct his stellium of mars, mercury, jupiter, his 7h
His Anti-Vx conjunct my 11h POF and Neptune (also part of a stellium, including NN).
We both write music, with a lot of heartbreak themes playing out there, and there is a business element(publishing - very 9h) to the relationship.
Definitely feels like an important relationship but not an easy one (Mars on his Vx in close aspect to a lot of mystuff) but the Moon/Ceres element provides a strong nurturing theme between us, in different ways.

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« Reply #18 - on: 18.09.2017 at 16:07 [UT+1] »Quote from tiwsdaydark on 18.09.2017 at 15:45 [UT+1]:
Quote from etherea on 16.09.2017 at 12:26 [UT+1]:
How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solar arc, converse
progressions, transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.? I would imagine that the outer planet contacts would be themost noticeable, and I am looking at a Pluto (planet of fate) transit upcoming to my natal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the
next while, which has sharpened my interest.

k) in 2000 and 2006, yes, very noticeable. A time of feeling a greater wheel behind the

Uranus and Neptune each transited my vertex (18wheel, kind of like the Flammarion engraving of the kneeling person discovering the cuckoo clock gears behind the sky.
I remember I was walking with my sister down the road (the limits of my social life) in 2000 and we were discussing astrology, Neptune in

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Aquarius and the upcoming Saturn in Gemini opposition to Pluto. I said something about the Gemini glyph resembling the Twin Towers andthe possibility of another terrorist attack on them and we left it at that. I'm sure many others had similar premonitions in those times.
In 2004 as Neptune was slowly inching up to the vertex I told her that I was going to let my savings run out and hit the road again
probably in the late autumn of 2005. I had a sense of those submerged Neptunian antikythera gears and just knew and there was nothingneeding to be done about it. And in the late autumn I was on the road again. And I washed up on the west coast and (certainly didn't
foresee this) ended up in a two year relationship with aGreat post

Al.

In which house does this axis fall, in your chart?

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« Reply #19 - on: 18.09.2017 at 16:19 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 18.09.2017 at 16:07 [UT+1]:
In which house does this axis fall, in your chart?

Hi etherea, vertex in the 6th house and anti vertex in e 12th.
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Arihant
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« Reply #20 - on: 18.09.2017 at 16:20 [UT+1] »Transits to Vx have the potential to crystallize fated meetings.

BmVx orb 0.12, BmJ mine orb 1.4 deg, GmD orb 1.4, K m Vesta mine .1 orb, eros conj K orb 1.5, Ep K
1.4 orb , Juno m Lilith 2 orb, Amor m D .1 orb, Cupid m Ceres 1 orb, CmE ,Posts: 3813

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« Reply #21 - on: 18.09.2017 at 16:41 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 18.09.2017 at 15:37 [UT+1]:
Quote from Three Little Birds on 18.09.2017 at 15:34 [UT+1]:m

I personally believe that Vx Asc is *highly* significant.

Thanks, TLB - can you elaborate?

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Gender:Hm. Well, I know this isn't the place to discuss personal charts, BUT...
This might be a good synastry chart for isolating the Vx-Asc influence, because the traditional aspects don't tell
the tale of the actual relationship it represents.

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etherea
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« Reply #22 - on: 18.09.2017 at 16:48 [UT+1] »Quote from Three Little Birds on 18.09.2017 at 16:41 [UT+1]:
Quote from etherea on 18.09.2017 at 15:37 [UT+1]:
Quote from Three Little Birds on 18.09.2017 at 15:34 [UT+1]:m

I personally believe that Vx Asc is *highly* significant.

Thanks, TLB - can you elaborate?

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Hm. Well, I know this isn't the place to discuss personal charts, BUT...
This might be a good synastry chart for isolating the Vx-Asc influence, because the traditional aspects don't tell the tale of the actual
relationship it represents.

Wow, yes, from both charts - plus the Mars featuring in both pictures, also. And look at the 8h emphasis!
Was there anything kicking off your respective axes when you first met? And was transiting Jupiter's trine tothe Vertex noticeable in terms of relationships, for you?
I ask because most info on this axis focuses on conjunctions but as Arihant points out, I think aspects between
other chart features and this axis also are potent.
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« Reply #23 - on: 18.09.2017 at 16:54 [UT+1] »Despite the sparseness of the synastry, we were together for 15 years (married 12) and are bound foreverthrough three children.
To this day, neither of us really know why we got married in the first place. It just felt like that was what wewere supposed to do. The relationship itself was about as empty as the synastry.
It wasn't an "I must be with this person forever" sort of thing - it felt like it was inescapable and understood.
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Gender:Inescapable.... You know, that feels like a good word. We've been divorced five years already, and I still wish I
could escape. Just yesterday he asked if he could put an election sign up in my front yard (advertising himself,of course).
*Sigh*

Dude, just leave me ALONE already!

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« Reply #24 - on: 18.09.2017 at 17:10 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 18.09.2017 at 16:48 [UT+1]:
Quote from Three Little Birds on 18.09.2017 at 16:41 [UT+1]:
Quote from etherea on 18.09.2017 at 15:37 [UT+1]:
Quote from Three Little Birds on 18.09.2017 at 15:34 [UT+1]:m

I personally believe that Vx Asc is *highly* significant.

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Thanks, TLB - can you elaborate?

Gender:Hm. Well, I know this isn't the place to discuss personal charts, BUT...
This might be a good synastry chart for isolating the Vx-Asc influence, because the traditional aspects don't tell the tale of
the actual relationship it represents.
Wow, yes, from both charts - plus the Mars featuring in both pictures, also. And look at the 8h emphasis!
Was there anything kicking off your respective axes when you first met? And was transiting Jupiter's trine to the Vertex noticeable interms of relationships, for you?
I ask because most info on this axis focuses on conjunctions but as Arihant points out, I think aspects between other chart features andthis axis also are potent.

Yeah, he has 6 planets in the 8th. Good times.
(The most suspicious person I've ever met.)
I don't remember the exact date we met, but around that time, Uranus was nearby my Vertex. I don't think
anything was near his.
I didn't notice anything when T.Jupiter trine my vertex...
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« Reply #25 - on: 18.09.2017 at 18:23 [UT+1] »My vx is m my A and DC, and anti/vx on my asc so it is a bit hard to gauge transits that hit that degree.. But I
met my soon to be husband back in 2010 cardinal climax and when tr O was on that degree (0a). the 0
cardinals were all getting hit around that time so a lot was going on for me so its hard for me to focus just on
the Vx/Antivx but it was a fated meeting!

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« Reply #26 - on: 19.09.2017 at 18:52 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 16.09.2017 at 12:26 [UT+1]:
There isn't that much "out there" in terms of info on this topic, so throwing it up for discussion here.
How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solar arc, converse progressions,transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.?

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Gender:Here is a blog post that I wrote about a circumstance that occurred when transiting Mars passed over my natal
Vertex point: http://whitefeatherastrology.com/blog/2012/10/17/thank-you/ The short version isthat I ruptured my Achilles tendon, I have natal asteroid Achilles conjunct my natal Vertex. I subsequently had
surgery and contrary to my fears had the best experience that I could have imagined. I did have to stand up formyself with the doctor though, which I detail in the blog post. But since I did I ended up with a good result.
When I had to make the decision to put my dog down after almost 14 years together, transiting Mars was
conjunct my natal Anti-Vertex. It was a beautiful passing, attending by the vet that euthanized her at my home
as well as my sister. Despite me being told by the vet's office that home euthanizations couldn't have access tocremation services, the vet arranged it for me, I had to hold out for it, and it was done according to my wishes.
I didn't want to put my dog down, but it was time to do so and I couldn't have asked for a more respectful
honouring of her life.
Hope that helps,
Anita.
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I would imagine that the outer planet contacts would be the most noticeable, and I am looking at a Pluto (planet of fate) transit upcoming
to my natal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the next while, which has sharpened my interest.
There are a few relationship "goings-on" in my world (with more than one person, as it happens) to verify the importance, and I am
unsure as to whether someone else more in the family set-up may be passing away (falls in 2h/8h axis in my chart).
Here are some links to start us off:
https://thezodiac.com/notworth.htm
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-vertex-in-the-natal-chart
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/vertex.html
http://www.uranian-institute.org/bfvertex.htm

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« Reply #27 - on: 19.09.2017 at 19:02 [UT+1] »Quote from Anita on 19.09.2017 at 18:52 [UT+1]:
Quote from etherea on 16.09.2017 at 12:26 [UT+1]:
There isn't that much "out there" in terms of info on this topic, so throwing it up for discussion here.
How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solar arc, converse
progressions, transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.?

Here is a blog post that I wrote about a circumstance that occurred when transiting Mars passed over my natal Vertex point:
http://whitefeatherastrology.com/blog/2012/10/17/thank-you/ The short version is that I ruptured my Achilles tendon, I havenatal asteroid Achilles conjunct my natal Vertex. I subsequently had surgery and contrary to my fears had the best experience that I could

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have imagined. I did have to stand up for myself with the doctor though, which I detail in the blog post. But since I did I ended up with agood result.
When I had to make the decision to put my dog down after almost 14 years together, transiting Mars was conjunct my natal Anti-Vertex. It
was a beautiful passing, attending by the vet that euthanized her at my home as well as my sister. Despite me being told by the vet's
office that home euthanizations couldn't have access to cremation services, the vet arranged it for me, I had to hold out for it, and it wasdone according to my wishes. I didn't want to put my dog down, but it was time to do so and I couldn't have asked for a more respectful
honouring of her life.
Hope that helps,
Anita.
Quote from etherea on 16.09.2017 at 12:26 [UT+1]:
I would imagine that the outer planet contacts would be the most noticeable, and I am looking at a Pluto (planet of fate)transit upcoming to my natal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the next while, which has sharpened my interest.
There are a few relationship "goings-on" in my world (with more than one person, as it happens) to verify the importance,and I am unsure as to whether someone else more in the family set-up may be passing away (falls in 2h/8h axis in mychart).
Here are some links to start us off:
https://thezodiac.com/notworth.htm
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-vertex-in-the-natal-chart
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/vertex.html
http://www.uranian-institute.org/bfvertex.htm

Thank you, Anita - lovely post and great explanation of what was going on for you with the Vertex/asteroid
AchillesGlad to hear your doggie had a beautiful passing, too.

How is Mars placed for you natally? I find it interesting that two very different kind of events occurred withmars over that axis, for you.

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« Reply #28 - on: 19.09.2017 at 22:53 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 19.09.2017 at 19:02 [UT+1]:
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There isn't that much "out there" in terms of info on this topic, so throwing it up for discussion here.

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How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solararc, converse progressions, transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.?

Here is a blog post that I wrote about a circumstance that occurred when transiting Mars passed over my natal Vertex
point: http://whitefeatherastrology.com/blog/2012/10/17/thank-you/ The short version is that I ruptured myAchilles tendon, I have natal asteroid Achilles conjunct my natal Vertex. I subsequently had surgery and contrary to myfears had the best experience that I could have imagined. I did have to stand up for myself with the doctor though, which I
detail in the blog post. But since I did I ended up with a good result.
When I had to make the decision to put my dog down after almost 14 years together, transiting Mars was conjunct mynatal Anti-Vertex. It was a beautiful passing, attending by the vet that euthanized her at my home as well as my sister.
Despite me being told by the vet's office that home euthanizations couldn't have access to cremation services, the vetarranged it for me, I had to hold out for it, and it was done according to my wishes. I didn't want to put my dog down, but
it was time to do so and I couldn't have asked for a more respectful honouring of her life.
Hope that helps,
Anita.
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I would imagine that the outer planet contacts would be the most noticeable, and I am looking at a Pluto(planet of fate) transit upcoming to my natal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the next while, which has
sharpened my interest.
There are a few relationship "goings-on" in my world (with more than one person, as it happens) to verify
the importance, and I am unsure as to whether someone else more in the family set-up may be passing
away (falls in 2h/8h axis in my chart).
Here are some links to start us off:
https://thezodiac.com/notworth.htm
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-vertex-in-the-natal-chart
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/vertex.html
http://www.uranian-institute.org/bfvertex.htm

Thank you, Anita - lovely post and great explanation of what was going on for you with the Vertex/asteroid Achilles

Glad to hear yourdoggie had a beautiful passing, too

You are welcome, glad it was useful to you. And thank you.

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How is Mars placed for you natally? I find it interesting that two very different kind of events occurred with mars over that axis, for you.

I'll include my chart.
Thank you,
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« Reply #29 - on: 20.09.2017 at 01:04 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 18.09.2017 at 15:22 [UT+1]:
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His vertex exact

n my A 1H......

Can I call vertex a karmic gate exchange?

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This would indicate that his Anti-Vx was in your 7h, so providing a clue there for you.
Interesting about the connections between Venus and your Vx, also, and anybody touching off your Venus with their Vx/Anti-Vx would alsotrine your Saturn and Uranus, perhaps giving you a feeling of excitement and potential longevity of relationship at the same time.
I am always wary of using the word "karma" about a meeting - the answer is that nobody knows. It isn't provable in any way.
Ultimately, the only way we can decide is to watch how the relationship plays out, and draw our conclusions from thatThank you for explaining
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« Reply #30 - on: 20.09.2017 at 03:47 [UT+1] »I never pay attention to this point but will do so in the future. I looked at the chart of a person I know welland who has Vertex i at 18 deg. It's in his house 5 trine MC and sextile to A. When Saturn approached andthen made contact with his Vertex, he had to

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declare bankruptcy due to huge gambling losses. He must have had this same aspect years ago so not surewhat happened to him then but it's uncanny that G Vertex brought restrictions and depression and he actuallybecame suicidal. We had to call the police one time as we rushed to his apt in a panic as he had hung thephone up saying he had nothing to live for. We were all terrified for about a month or so until that horrible
feeling passed him. Just as Saturn moved on past his Vertex.
It's probably one of the most unfortunate events to happen tohim and it shook him to his core.

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« Reply #31 - on: 20.09.2017 at 03:48 [UT+1] »Great stuff, learned a lot so thank you.
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I have written extensively about the Vertex axis as I have been working with it from the late 70'.. You can find the articles here:

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« Reply #32 - on: 20.09.2017 at 03:52 [UT+1] »The anti-Vertex doesn't show up on Astro. So it's just the opposite of whatever your Vertex is? Apologize if
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« Reply #33 - on: 20.09.2017 at 05:25 [UT+1] »Quote from Black Crow on 20.09.2017 at 03:47 [UT+1]:
I never pay attention to this point but will do so in the future. I looked at the chart of a person I know well and who has Vertex
deg. It's in his house 5 trine MC and sextile toi at 18

A. When Saturn approached and then made contact with his Vertex, he had to

declare bankruptcy due to huge gambling losses. He must have had this same aspect years ago so not sure what happened to him thenbut it's uncanny that

G Vertex brought restrictions and depression and he actually became suicidal. We had to call the police one time as

we rushed to his apt in a panic as he had hung the phone up saying he had nothing to live for. We were all terrified for about a month or
so until that horrible feeling passed him. Just as Saturn moved on past his Vertex.
It's probably one of the most unfortunate events to happen tohim and it shook him to his core.

Wow - what a story. Thanks, and definitely underlines the sensitivity of this point. As Saturn often brings the
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chance to examine and re-set our psychological patterns after making things so very uncomfortable, do you
know if this is now underway, or is it still early days? Just trying to see if the contact was just that kind of
emergency flash event, or if it is having longer-lasting effects....

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« Reply #34 - on: 20.09.2017 at 05:26 [UT+1] »Quote from Black Crow on 20.09.2017 at 03:52 [UT+1]:
The anti-Vertex doesn't show up on Astro. So it's just the opposite of whatever your Vertex is? Apologize if this sounds stupid to ask.

not stupid, and yes, exactly - Anti-Vx is directly opposite Vertex. It's an axis, just like MC/IC, nodes, ASC/Desc.

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« Reply #35 - on: 20.09.2017 at 23:27 [UT+1] »Thanks for the confirmation. Yeah, ok, this Saturn/Vertex conjunction changed him completely. He has beengambling p/t forover 30 yrs and usually nets about $10,000/year in profit. Never saved a penny of it, blew it on fancy
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restaurants and very
expensive food items. When I sometimes went to his apt, all I would see were gourmet snacks spread over his
kitchen table
and not a cooking pot in sight, he never cooked. He rarely took a vacation unless it was to play poker, he just
lived a very luxurious
lifestyle. That's all over now. And his blackjack days are definitely over. Says that he will start playing poker
again once hisbankruptcy trustee fees are paid off as they take about 10% of his salary (not for the debts, that's written off
but he has to pay
for about a year to the trustee).
So he has learned to budget, brings his own lunch to work and has stopped paying for coffees and snacks foreveryone. He wasalways very generous with his poker winnings and threw money around a lot.
It was a big wake up call for him. Before this happened, if I ever suggested he go to a medium pricerestaurant, he would just roll hiseyes in disgust as if I had asked him to eat at McDonald's. Now, he can't even afford to go to any restaurant
and is cooking at
home. Lots of pasta, ha ha ha. He has settled down now, no more talk of ending it and we are all reallyrelieved about that.

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The anti-Vertex doesn't show up on Astro. So it's just the opposite of whatever your Vertex is? Apologize if this sounds
stupid to ask.

not stupid, and yes, exactly - Anti-Vx is directly opposite Vertex. It's an axis, just like MC/IC, nodes, ASC/Desc.

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« Reply #36 - on: 21.09.2017 at 02:06 [UT+1] »Hello Anita
I enjoyed reading your story and was fascinated that asteroid Achilles is conjunct your Vertex.

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You have natal Saturn closely conjunct your natal antiVertex in the 12th house, so I am not surprised that theevent landed you in hospital. Every time a planet transits your Vertex it also transits antiVertex and Saturn,and, as the Vertex axis has at least as much strength as the axis of the Ascendant and MC, this will often bringnoteworthy events.
Interesting that the ruler of your MC is conjunct your antiVertex as this often gives a 'destined' career andcertainly gives a destiny connected to one of the parents.
Have you checked back in your life to see what happened on your Saturn return as this would have also
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« Reply #37 - on: 21.09.2017 at 03:19 [UT+1] »Quote from Alice Portman on 21.09.2017 at 02:06 [UT+1]:
Hello Anita

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I enjoyed reading your story and was fascinated that asteroid Achilles is conjunct your Vertex.

Thanks so much for reading my post. Also, thanks for adding a chart complete with Anti-Vertex symbol.

Quote from Alice Portman on 21.09.2017 at 02:06 [UT+1]:
You have natal Saturn closely conjunct your natal antiVertex in the 12th house, so I am not surprised that the event landed you in
hospital. Every time a planet transits your Vertex it also transits antiVertex and Saturn, and, as the Vertex axis has at least as muchstrength as the axis of the Ascendant and MC, this will often bring noteworthy events.

Indeed there are many other transists to my Vertex and Anti-Vertex that I didn't mention. Some experiences
are just for me.
But I will say Pluto transiting my Vertex had a strong effect when I was 10. Also Jupiter transiting my natal
Vertex last October/November also had a strong effect (coupled with Jupiter conjunct North Node of the Moon
in my solar return last year). So yes, not just Mars has an effect but Mars was the one I had an example I could
talk about for both ends of the axis.
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Interesting that the ruler of your MC is conjunct your antiVertex as this often gives a 'destined' career and certainly gives a destiny
connected to one of the parents.

One person's definition of destiny is another person's endless frustration. But I guess an onlooker would likely
view it differently than myself. I don't know what destiny's timeline is. When I begin to worry about that I findit helpful to remember the words of the sermon Premature Autopsies. Text is here:
http://www.mdcbowen.org/p1/cobb/premature_autopsies.htm Youtube video here, but not by theoriginal performer Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDmCF3Nlse8 original
version preview is available at: http://wyntonmarsalis.org/discography/title/the-majesty-of-the-blues
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Have you checked back in your life to see what happened on your Saturn return as this would have also triggered the antiVertex?

Oh I don't have to check back, that was the onset of 13 years of PTSD. Eris transiting my natal Mean Black
Moon Lilith played a contributing role there as well.
Natal Eris is also conjunct natal Saturn and natal Anti=Vertex. It gets a bit crowded sometimes.
Thanks Alice,
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« Reply #38 - on: 23.09.2017 at 10:35 [UT+1] »[quote author=etherea link=1505561186/0#0 date=1505561186]There isn't that much "out there" in terms of
info on this topic, so throwing it up for discussion here.
How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solar arc,
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converse progressions, transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.? I would imagine that the outer planet
contacts would be the most noticeable, and I am looking at a Pluto (planet of fate) transit upcoming to mynatal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the next while, which has sharpened my interest.
There are a few relationship "goings-on" in my world (with more than one person, as it happens) to verify theimportance, and I am unsure as to whether someone else more in the family set-up may be passing away (falls
in 2h/8h axis in my chart).

In my experience,
I am unable to relate the use of the Vertex at Pisces 29 degree sixth house to changes in my life of 62.
I do not seem to feel or see the changes in life when this vertex near 0 degree Aries is activated by transits.
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« Reply #39 - on: 23.09.2017 at 14:27 [UT+1] »Quote from Black Crow on 20.09.2017 at 23:27 [UT+1]:
Thanks for the confirmation. Yeah, ok, this Saturn/Vertex conjunction changed him completely. He has been gambling p/t forover 30 yrs and usually nets about $10,000/year in profit. Never saved a penny of it, blew it on fancy restaurants and very
expensive food items. When I sometimes went to his apt, all I would see were gourmet snacks spread over his kitchen table
and not a cooking pot in sight, he never cooked. He rarely took a vacation unless it was to play poker, he just lived a very luxurious
lifestyle. That's all over now. And his blackjack days are definitely over. Says that he will start playing poker again once hisbankruptcy trustee fees are paid off as they take about 10% of his salary (not for the debts, that's written off but he has to pay
for about a year to the trustee).
So he has learned to budget, brings his own lunch to work and has stopped paying for coffees and snacks for everyone. He wasalways very generous with his poker winnings and threw money around a lot.
It was a big wake up call for him. Before this happened, if I ever suggested he go to a medium price restaurant, he would just roll his

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eyes in disgust as if I had asked him to eat at McDonald's. Now, he can't even afford to go to any restaurant and is cooking at
home. Lots of pasta, ha ha ha. He has settled down now, no more talk of ending it and we are all really relieved about that.

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Quote from Black Crow on 20.09.2017 at 03:52 [UT+1]:
The anti-Vertex doesn't show up on Astro. So it's just the opposite of whatever your Vertex is? Apologize if
this sounds stupid to ask.

not stupid, and yes, exactly - Anti-Vx is directly opposite Vertex. It's an axis, just like MC/IC, nodes, ASC/Desc.

Wow, what a story, and what a contact that turned out to be. I suppose Saturn really curtailed Jupiterian
excess there....a classic, in terms of astrology, with the 5h for the gambling.
by Mercury - what was happening to that ruler at the time?

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« Reply #40 - on: 29.09.2017 at 16:14 [UT+1] »I have never researched the Vertex. First time I heard of it's significance was when reading Penny Thorntons
books, (but honestly I found her to be a bit confefe out of balance sort of..), so I never delved into it.
Incidentially though I have the north node conjunct the Vertex in the 7th house, and I have a consistentpattern of picking up vibes with people who have some significant placements in Libra conjunct my S.node andantivertex. Some of my longest friendships has been with Aries women, but I never fell for Aries males,
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« Reply #41 - on: 30.09.2017 at 11:31 [UT+1] »Quote from etherea on 16.09.2017 at 12:26 [UT+1]:
There isn't that much "out there" in terms of info on this topic, so throwing it up for discussion here.
How has this Vertex/Anti-vertex shaped up in your experience, with transits, aspects, progressions, solar arc, converse progressions,transits and aspects to Vx/Anti-Vx rulers, etc.? I would imagine that the outer planet contacts would be the most noticeable, and I am
looking at a Pluto (planet of fate) transit upcoming to my natal Anti-Vx (point of fate) over the next while, which has sharpened myinterest.
There are a few relationship "goings-on" in my world (with more than one person, as it happens) to verify the importance, and I am
unsure as to whether someone else more in the family set-up may be passing away (falls in 2h/8h axis in my chart).

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https://thezodiac.com/notworth.htm
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-vertex-in-the-natal-chart
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/vertex.html
http://www.uranian-institute.org/bfvertex.htm

I've never looked at this but my virgo vx opp pisces venus asc and sqrs the IC cancer moon. Must look ' notthismore .

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« Reply #42 - on: 05.10.2017 at 18:54 [UT+1] »I have also never researched the Vertex. Thought it had something to do with death, so I didn't want to go
further in such topic. Besides, there is so much in the basic astrology that I am not skilled that I thought it was
not relevant. But after reading this post I decided to find my Vertex and check possible events. WOW!

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Progressed Venus was exact conjunct Vx in Leo 8H when I met a "significant other" in my life. As someone has
already written, the relanshionship was very intense, but not necessarily positive or livelong. I tought it was due
transiting Pluto opposite natal Venus. Of course, when something so important happens in one's life there areusualy more than one important aspect. Transiting Neptune was also opposing my natal Moon, and I foundprogressed Moon in 12H exact trine to Vertex as well! The story is as follow.
Some months before meeting this guy I had a tarot reading and was told I would meet my "significant other"very soon. He was supposed to be someone elegant, with an autonome profession and we would make many
trips togheter. Supposedly we would be togheter until death apart us...
At that time T Pluto was already orb opposing my Natal Venus and I had several minor relasionships in an
attemp to find "the one". I was working in a cruise ship and tought it would be perfect if I found a partner toshare lives while travelling the world.
T Neptune was also opposing Natal Moon and I fantasized a lot about living with someone in a beatiful house,away from the big city, with a garden and a swimming pool....
Time passed and nothing of Mr. The One to appear. So I gave up searching because those who I met did not
fulfilled me emotionally, physically or culturally.
Then I was on vacation and found a website for travellers where this guy was looking for other travelcompanions to go to a literary festival and share expenses with transportation and lodgment. I was very
enthousiastic about it because I was longing to go to this festival since some years before. (Note that myretrograde Mercury is conjunct Vx. (Mercury=literature, transportation, lord 7).
He came to pick me up at the night of 2nd July 2008, a Wednesday, first day of the festival. He told me his
sister and someone else would go too, but finally it was just the two of us in the car during a 4h30 trip. We
arrived around 3a.m. in the small house he rented.
The conversation during the trip was fluid and when we arrived he tried to seduce me upon a glass of red wine
he had bought with other drink and food supplies. Even though he gave me a positive first impression (goodlooking - not my type of guy tough - , talk-active, intelligent and travelled experienced) I started to feel afraid
being alone with him in the house (T Lilith conjunt progressed Moon by 1°10 at 12H ?). I didn' t had a "crush
at first sight". In fact, by that time I had already given up casual datings and was determined to find a serious
commitment. Fortunately he did not force a situation at that moment and each of us went to sleep: he in the
double bed of the bedroom and I in the mattress in the kitchen/living-room.
Next day we woke up late and I was gladly surprised he prepared a nice breakfast. I really appreciated thatatittude and felt more comfortable alone with him inside the house (Progressed Moon 12H trine Vertex 8H by
32').
We rented bikes and went exploring the village. It was an historic village by the sea, with a luxuriant tropicalforest, very charming, full of artists who live there and specially alive during the festival. (Venus = arts). It wasa nice half day ride and I came back "home" exhausted, longing for a shower and a rest. I had noticed theprevious night that the bathroom had no key and could not be locked. But cannot tell if it was already rented
like this from the single woman who lived there, or if it was him that hid it on purpose. Most probably the lastassumption because while I was showering he entered the bathroom and wanted to shower with me. Again I
had to repel him and again he back off and went to take a nap, which I also did. Later on, he woke up, took ashower and then sit by my side on the mattress where I was lying, wearing only a towel around his hips. Thenhe asks me if I do not find him attractive. I answer he is attractive but I was not interested because I wanted aboyfriend and not a casual relasionship. Well, the bla bla bla went on, but finally he succeeded to seduce me.
And here I copy and paste what the site Cafe Astrology says about the Vertex that fits perfectly what I felt:"... there is a rather common theme in place: the individuals meet and do not fall in love right away. In fact,
there can be some feeling of reluctance, and, unlike South Node connections in synastry, they don’t feel an
instant sense of recognition. When they do fall in love, it is much like an “epiphany”— —sort of on the lines of“Wow, I really do like you—–I didn’t expect this!” The feelings come “out of the blue” and in a rush of feeling".

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Unfortunately, it was a onesidedness feeling. MY Progressed Venus was conjunct MY Vertex, and MY Progressed
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problems in his work as well. Since I do not know his TOB it is impossible to know where his Vertex lies. But I
will attach his chart with transit and progressions for the day we meet, so you can see that he was also passing
trough an important moment: Progressed Sun was EXACT conjuntion his Natal Venus, which is EXACT square
his Natal Saturn; Transiting Pluto was conjunct Natal Lilith by 1°. We can also notice that his Progressed Moon
had hit by conjunction his Natal Sun around 7/8 months before we met. (Even though without his TOB this is
not accurate, but very likely considering the broken up with his "sweet heart"). And previously, Transiting
Saturn did conjuction Natal Sun as well. When I asked why they had broken up he was vague and answered
there was no more direction for the relashionship to go...(then I tought to myself: "what about getting married
and have kids like most people do?"). Was it due to Progressed Moon square Natal Neptune? Or is it a typicalfeeling of being unlovable caractheristic of Venus square Saturn holders?
Anyway, in spite of not feeling loved enough (or precisely because of this), he posteriorly told me he used tokeep serious commitment with 8 or 9 women at the same time! (That would perfectly explain the Venus/Pluto
in Libra square Saturn in Cancer is not it? Venus/Pluto in Libra=diversity partners; Saturn Cancer=perspectiveof forming a family).
But let"s get back to the story. The next days we enjoyed the festival and for me, at least, there were magicalmoments like listening to poetry being recited around a bonfire, under a centenary tree, at the yard of asecluded house which belonged to the descendant of former local royalty. It was an "off-festival" event, kind of
secret for a few.(Poetry=mercury+venus=beautiful words. In my chart = Progressed Venus conjunct Vertex
conjunct Mercury all in Leo (bonfire) at the 8H (magic). It happened at night (P Moon) under a centenary tree
(P Moon in Sagitt) in a secluded house for a few bunch (P Moon in 12H), house belonging to royalty (P Moon
trine P Venus/Vertex in Leo).
We find out that our respective families lived in the countyside in neighbor cities, distant 30 min by car fromeach other. So two days after leaving the festival we were on the road again. I had to visit my family and he
had to visit his. Once again we agreed to share the transport expenses. By that time I was amazed to find outthat the tarot reading was comming true: he had a kind of independant work with computers, dressed informalelegant and, in fact, we were travelling......A "fated encounter"?
Well, when we met again for this long trip of about 4h30 I found him very bad tempered since I entered thecar. In fact, I was the one supposed to be mad because he was very late and even did not apologize. I tried tokeep a light hearted conversation and mentioned how perfect things had been at the festival. I had brought
him a book as a gift that I imagined he would like. It was then that out of a sudden he says that he completely
disagrees with me, that there was this and that, and other things I was completely unaware of. It was only atthis moment that I realized that while I was living in my beautiful dream, the guy was miserable. And to behonest, I was so shocked and sad with his accid words that I even do not remember what he was talking about.
I just remember about trying to hold the tears until we stopped the car and I could go to the toilet wash myface. (In our synastry his Saturn is tight conjunct my Venus in Cancer). But after a car break we managed tofinnish the trip well.
When we went back to our city one week later I proposed him to rent a house and live togheter for a period oftime to see how things would work out. Obviously he thought I was crazy and ran away like Forrest Gump fromcoast to coast without looking back.....lol. A friend told me that I wanted to "play house" like children do. And I
agree! What is wrong with that? After all, he was supposed to be my man to death.... The detail is I was the
only one aware of that, but totally forgot to tell him about his role in the story...
After that we exchanged a few messages, but did not see each other until the 30th August when he had a latebirthday celebration in a rock house. After the celebration the two of us went to his appartment, but things did
not work out. He had ignored me for a long time and I finaly gave up on him.
The interesting is that the same planets conjunct my Vertex (P Venus and Mercury) were by transit in a tightconjuction my natal Pluto on that final day.
Another interesting thing to be noticed is that when we first met in 2nd July it was NewMoon in Cancer
conjunct Venus, and when we "broke up" on August 30th (if I can use this word for a bound that in reality
never existed), it was also a NewMoon, but in Virgo conjunct Saturn. And as previously said, in our synastry his
Saturn is tight conjunct my Venus in Cancer. A karmic relashionship?
The thing is after that day until now I had absolutely no other relashionship. Total of 9yrs.

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Re: Electric Axis and your experiences.
« Reply #44 - on: 05.10.2017 at 20:16 [UT+1] »His natal Moon is conjunct your natal Saturn/Chiron midpoint (heartbreak).

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Re: Electric Axis and your experiences.
« Reply #45 - on: 05.10.2017 at 21:59 [UT+1] »Thank you for your imput, etherea. Midpoints is another astrologycal subject that I haven't given importance sofar. Will study that!

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