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Colin Dennis
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Astrological Glyphs« on: 31.08.2008 at 14:56 [UT+1] »This might be a dumb question, but I have to know... why are the signs and the planets represented by theshapes that they are.

A the sun: a circle with a dot, I read that the dot means potential, the circle is the spirit
B the moon: symbol for the soul,
C mercury: why is the crescent above a cross and a circle, whats it all about, the cross is matter, the circle isspirit and the crescent is soul, what does this have to do with mercury??

D venus: basically mercury without the crescent??
E mars: circle for the spirit but has an arrow coming out??
F jupiter: a cross for matter and a crescent coming out, but why?
G saturn: a cross with the crescent coming out of the bottom instead?
O uranus: a cross for matter with two opposing crescents and the circle/spirit down below, again why??
I neptune: two crosses, one above the other, the above cross again has two opposing crescents??
J pluto: I know this also has a different one where its like mercury but the crescent is below the circle
M lilith: the soul/crescent above the cross of matter, why??
N chiron: a circle with a "k" shape on top, why??
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #1 - on: 31.08.2008 at 15:06 [UT+1] »Again with the signs, there seems to be more to them than meets the eye...

a Aries: looks like the horns of a ram but also looks like a downward arrowb Taurus: a bulls head, but also is a circle (for spirit) with a crescent (soul) on top
c Gemini: is kind of simple, its just like the numeral for the number 2 meaning duald Cancer: reminds me of the yin yang, also its next to gemini, like a theme for the number 2
e Leo: looks like half of cancer and looks warped and out of sync
f Virgo & h Scorpio: both look like an m but with a strange twist at the end, one is feminine one masculine
g Libra: looks like the top of it is the Omega, last letter of the greek alphabet, like a symbol for endings??
i Sagittarius: an arrow but not only that, an arrow coming out of a cross of matterj Capricorn: I just dont get this one, it looks like a confused 6
k Aquarius: looks like water but is also said to represent electricity
l Pisces: the line of matter with two opposing crescents, like O uranus without the circle/spirit at the bottom
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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #2 - on: 31.08.2008 at 15:25 [UT+1] »...I'd like to point out that I believe as far as C and O are concerned [the lower and higher octaves ofcommunication] both seem to have antennae sprouting from them and G has the 'SAT...' which is Sanskrit for
TRUTH...

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David Mastry

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #3 - on: 31.08.2008 at 15:27 [UT+1] »...oh yeah, and that 'thing' that is sprouting from E...come on now...can't you figure?

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Colin Dennis
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #4 - on: 31.08.2008 at 16:13 [UT+1] »If mercury is of the higher ovtave of communication C why does venus D look so similar except without the
crescent, what is the significance of that, what does it say about venus??
with regard to E yeah I guess thats true, if not a little crude lol, i sagittarius is identical only instead of acircle (spirit) its a cross (matter)
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #5 - on: 31.08.2008 at 16:15 [UT+1] »And with that in mind what does that say about h scorpio and f Virgo...?

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #6 - on: 31.08.2008 at 17:38 [UT+1] »Firstly, the crescent represents the receptive part of the mind, which is why this is B and is on top of C. Souland spirit are genuinely the same, you could think of N as a circle with a line stretching upward and connecting
to a crescent. Arrow stands for force/aim. I like the other Pluto glyph, the one Astrodienst uses doesn't standfor Pluto, rather it stands for Percival Lowell, the discoverer.
Secondly, no one can really answer what the glyphs mean, they're ancient, they've changed over time, we don't
have many records of their original inspiration and anyone that could give you a clear answer is dead. I don't
think there's much point obsessing over minor details like this: Mercury is Mercury, Venus is Venus, Virgo is
Virgo and Scorpio is Scorpio.
Cancer: crab claws
Leo: Strand of hair or Lions tailLibra: Scales/setting sun
Aquarius: Water/electricity/snakes
Pisces: Bound fish
http://www.astro-guide.com/msymbol.htm
http://www.uranian-institute.org/bfglyphs.htm

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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #7 - on: 31.08.2008 at 17:48 [UT+1] »Thanks for the links,
Its funny how these symbols are use everyday in astrology even now and yet their original very mysteriouus
meanings are now lost in time. I find that quite saddening. Just by looking at them you get this feeling thatthey have more to say than we can interpret. Like a feeling that theres somekind of truth in them that feels alittle bit out of reach
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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #8 - on: 31.08.2008 at 18:42 [UT+1] »...I remember reading in some old esoteric book that at one time the Signs f g h were considersd one signand g was the uniter...as if the 'Scales' were balancing and uniting the 3 of them..don't remember much morethan that though...I wonder if anyones' got anything on that they might like to share...
...and ps the book also said that's why the glyphs for f & h were so similar looking
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #9 - on: 31.08.2008 at 18:44 [UT+1] »f represents the female genitals, by the inwarded curlh has the male genitals, represented by the outward curlso yes g is the unifier
also g men seem sometimes a bit feminine... may be that's the appeal of g men with women... heunderstands them, he relates to them... in a pleasing way

g women seem sometimes a bit more male, most g women have ample breasts (off course this is
generalizing)
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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #10 - on: 31.08.2008 at 18:46 [UT+1] »...Chaos...yyuryyubicuryy4me...[giggle]

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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #11 - on: 31.08.2008 at 19:00 [UT+1] »I did think this might be the case. Libra they also do often say balances masculinity and femininity, sees thingsfrom both sides. I guess as its the unifier of masculine and feminine thats why it rules the house of marriage
and partnership.
if you take l and pull the the crescents together and lift them above the line you get a as if whatever it isemerged from somethingd looks a bit like yin yang, another balance symbol. both d & c represent two and duality but when you getto e one is missing, d I heard also has something to do with ouroborous (excuse the spelling) with is thesnake eating its tail and is the symbol for eternity and infinity

i looks like the male part of h but instead attached to a cross rather than an mk again is another dual sign in fact all the air signs have this duality thing going on
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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #12 - on: 31.08.2008 at 19:07 [UT+1] »...Colin, yeah. but Virgo and Scorpio are both considered Feminine signs..!?!

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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #13 - on: 31.08.2008 at 19:14 [UT+1] »damn... yeah... unless well...
scorpio is ruled by mars, a maculine planet! and virgo is often seen as female but is rule by mercury which isoften seen as androgynous/hermaphrodite and so these two signs along with libra pull masculinity together in asort of matrimony, if you put these three signs together you get a sort of half male half female being
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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #14 - on: 31.08.2008 at 19:20 [UT+1] »...Okay, I'll buy that for now...

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #15 - on: 31.08.2008 at 19:44 [UT+1] »Heres a theory, bare with this, savour the thought and pass judgement, you know this whole age of aquarius,
age of pisces thing and the egyptians begin it with the age of leo and it goes backwards through the zodiac,well...

e age: worship of the sun, God is the sun. The sun melted the ice bringing the end of the ice age, the sunbrought bounty and was worship as the new beggining, hunter gatherers are rife.

d age: worship the moon, God is the moon. The mother goddess is worshipped, the world is flooded after theice age, thick fog covers the world. animals are domesticated and nomadic hunters become home bound,shelter is the new priority.

c age: invention of writing: a plurality of gods are worshipped and the feminine and masculine principle areboth worshipped. Transport, trade, communication and building bridges are of top priority

b age: Worship of the bull: venus becomes important in the form of the egyptian goddesses Isis and Hathor.
Ther Pyramids get built which are to last forever (a very taurean goal), richness and arts become a featurea age: fighting and conquest: God of war is worshipped, lots of conquering and taking over of land. Huge
empires built on wars and conquests

l age: Jesus and christianity: sacrice of the ego, contradiction, invention of mental hospitals, prisons, asylums,
slavery is in abundance, all in all a weird mix of salvation and damnation

k: Electrical age, new inventions, hyper fast communication possibly the brining together of humanity, the age
where we have a choice between utopia or dystopia, also the sky and earth unite (possibly space travel)

j: mother earth, New ground, new found ground to plant new life, nature becomes of importance just as it
was in d age, wide public a priority maybe
i: Seeking the truth: the true being/true way of being, the new found philosophy, we realise whats true andmove on to new things
THEN... we have the ages of h g f which as we said before is like the uniting of a being, a being that is ahermaphrodite, its God, its the thing that we are all made "in the image of"Do the symbols thus tell us the story of "God" in a sort of round about, totally insane, crazy, mad, mental blow
your brains kind of way, or does this make less sense than I thought it did lol

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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #16 - on: 31.08.2008 at 19:52 [UT+1] »...Yeah, I read Adrian Gilberts' book on the Orion thing a few years back...highly interesting...according to him[and Edgar Cayce] the Sphinx was constructed around 10,000 B.C. and represents the Leo age you are referingtoBack to top
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #17 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:03 [UT+1] »Yes!!!! I've heard that about the sphinx too!!!! I mean if all this is the case and we really are moving throughages and all these things are sort of happening on cue, who is pulling the strings, its like a big mystery.
I have thought for a long time that is something undercurrent. I just have a feeling that there is some kind of
hidden wisdom behind the symbols.
Sorry to rant, but I just feel like, why arent more people paying attention to this. We can probably learn morefrom astrology than was thought previous. I have a gut feeling that theres more to all the symbols than meetsthe eyeBack to top

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Colin Dennis
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #18 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:05 [UT+1] »another thing I just thought of, arent the pyramids built according to constellations. The Egyptians really new
their stuff

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David Mastry

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #19 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:09 [UT+1] »...Because, as i believe, the 'Great Deciever' [you know who..the Big Horned Liar] is always at work trying todestroy the truth...I here trying to get the 'Devil' out of the details of Astrology...he and I have butted heads
many a time...and I'M STILL HERE!
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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #20 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:12 [UT+1] »...Colin, Gilbert said they were arranged to mirror the 3 stars in "Orions' Belt" in the overhead sky as it
appeared in that time.
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #21 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:19 [UT+1] »YES!!!! again (sorry I just love relating ideas to other ideas, its like a disease) you know this whole horned
symbolism right, being assiciated with the Devil, and Aries being horned, and also this stroy of the"Scapegoat", and the decil looking like something similar to Aries, well I have a suggestion....
You know how the horned devil is kind of a christian thing right, and christianity's beggining coincides with thebeggining of the age of pisces, and the FISH is a very christian symbol, and... you know how the age of Aries
was just before the age of Pisces well, could it be the this rejection of a horned being as a devil is actually an
age of pisces rejection of the age of aries that came before, in other words Aries is not to be "truth" any more
but instead the Fishes are.
I presume this because, at the beggining of the age of Aries wasnt there a whole thing about destroying bullworshipping cults and people claimed that the bull worshippers were "worshipping false idols" and so at thattime the devil was in the shape of taurus, basically when a new age comes about, the last age symbol becomes
old hat and gets called a devil symbol
LOL does this mean now we are entering the age of aquarius we have to start destroying fish symbols, will
there be a ban on having fish for dinner??
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Colin Dennis
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #22 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:25 [UT+1] »with these three signs being on his belt, maybe orion is actually a him/her a she-male, some kind of both being
and is in fact a symbol of god.
The whole thing about lilith as well, I heard something about if lilith finds her male counterpart (possibly thedevil, or adam, or some other guy) they will merge into one to creat baphomet or something that sounds like
that, and this being is a hermaphrodite
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #23 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:27 [UT+1] »Orion belt is very close to his nether regions, and having this symbol of balance of masculine and feminine inthat area, its like exactly that, a mixed gender thing

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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #24 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:32 [UT+1] »...I met a mystic Christain Sciencetist once who told me there is a diiference between Satan and Lucifer [Ireaally, don't like discuusing this topic, as it gets too far off the subject of astrol.] ..Lucifer is/was an Angel and
Satan doesn't appear as an Angel but is portrayed as a Horned man with the lower body of a goat and he said
the clue was in the apocryphal book [can't quite remember the title off hand] about Adam and his first wife
Lilith...and I linked this to what Edgar Cayce said about the earlier sexual escapades of 'Spirit manifesting inmatter here'...
pierce-the vale
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #25 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:39 [UT+1] »I just have a strong feeling that I HAVE to know more about this, you've intrigued me more!! Thank you.
I'm actually a student of social anthropology. religion, symbolism and spirituality are a big part of thesestudies,
I just have an urge to delve deeper into all this and find out more...
Astrology plays a highly significant role in it all, I'd love to incorporate it all cause theres surely something in it
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David Mastry
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #26 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:47 [UT+1] »... Colin, that's because [as I believe] that the laws of the Universe as expressed through the power of theZodiac are the basis of everthing that is/has/willbe created. It's all relative...
...sometime I'll pm you with a real neat theory, that Clarisse says the Spirit Guides concur with though it issomewhat overly simplistic, that utilizes Einsteins theory of relativity as it applies to our physical being and how
man was created and how time, when viewed from whatever viewpoint these spiritual Guides we've beenworking with view from. is seen in terms of Past, Present and Future...
pierce-the-vale
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #27 - on: 31.08.2008 at 20:59 [UT+1] »This is just what I need!
Yes, I can see how that would be, maybe its that the zodiac symbolism is in fact flawless in describing theuniverse in some way,true that virtually if you look at any place in the world, any person, any event and any point in time, astrology
can just about cover it all. Its almost a belief system in itself and yet not necessarily a belief system but actuallya fact system, a way of condensing life into symbols, reducing very over-arching ideas into bite sized chunksable for us mere humans to have some recollection and insight into the very universe itself, we otherwise areleft lost and confused in a random flow of nonsense
thats why all the good religions have symbols, their powerful, inspiring and utterly unifying
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #28 - on: 31.08.2008 at 21:06 [UT+1] »U hav 2 live back words 2 bee a evil liveDevil - H
it all comes down to the crescent crissened Mon B & SON/Sunor which god got krist end on the + or yanged in the Yin
Until we have reel baal lance

E erectionswill reign in crisstened homme.

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David Mastry

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #29 - on: 31.08.2008 at 21:07 [UT+1] »...Colin, you may want to check out [if you haven't already, forgive me if I can't recall] my theory on thecreation of the Universe/all Creation...esp. the posts where I said I was giving material for another book up,
thus losing copyrights, as it's the birth Chart of Jesus I'm really all about...and believe is of such importance if
correct...and you know by now how I, Clarisse and the Guides feel about that.
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Colin Dennis
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #30 - on: 31.08.2008 at 21:19 [UT+1] »Yes thank you, I will have to have some more reading, a lot of what I've been saying here is a comilation ofdifferent websites ideas and things that I looked at, and connections and parrallels between ideas that I justformed myself.
its so hard to keep track of all these topics and things I get a bit lost, (typical mercury in gemini lol) one day I
hope to consolidate all these ideas into something readable, I've ran out steam now and I need a coffee lol
I'm going to have a think about what your saying and collect as much info as I can, maybe it will start tobecome clearer if I start writing it all downsorry for flying off on tangents, I'm just so overwhelmed by the topic and hopeful by related things together it
all starts to makes sense
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David Mastry

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #31 - on: 31.08.2008 at 21:25 [UT+1] »Colin, have you ever checked out your final depositors?
..Maybe we should start a thread on that topic?

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Colin Dennis
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #32 - on: 31.08.2008 at 21:30 [UT+1] »what is that? what does that mean?? sorry lol, damn I need a coffee
what is final depositers??
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David Mastry

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #33 - on: 31.08.2008 at 21:37 [UT+1] »...Colin, Dude...you gotta, I do mean GOT TO know about your final depositors..too much to talk about here,
again I use "The Astrologers Handbook" by Sakoian and Acker...it's good and don't let anyone try to convince
you otherwise until you've checked it out for your self...they give paranormal, mystical, psychic et. al definitons
along with the more 'common'!
..but the Depositors chapter doesn't deal with that, it's definately a traditional explanation.
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Colin Dennis
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #34 - on: 31.08.2008 at 21:49 [UT+1] »Thanks, I'll check this out then!
Its all a bit of a whirlind all this stuff, but I love it. Tomorrow I'm banning myself from watching TV lol, nodistractions, Im going to sift through as much stuff as I can, I'm open to reading suggestions.
I start back at Uni on September 23rd, which I cant wait. This might sound like nothing to do with anything
but it is in fact something... theres stuff on the course that I've been learning about which I can very much
relate to astrology its unreal,
anyway thanks again for your suggestions
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #35 - on: 31.08.2008 at 22:32 [UT+1] »Quote from David Mastry on 31.08.2008 at 19:07 [UT+1]:...Colin, yeah. but Virgo and Scorpio are both considered Feminine signs..!?!

f had a male planet as ruler and is feminine
g has a female planet as ruler and is masculine
h both rulers are male but is feminine
j ruler is male, feminine sign
l both rulers are male, feminine sign
very dual, astrology
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #36 - on: 31.08.2008 at 22:41 [UT+1] »Colin,In the InDepth forum there is a recent thread called Dominant Planet. You may find something there..

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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #37 - on: 01.09.2008 at 23:37 [UT+1] »Thanks Rachel,
did you mean the Pullen method thing? I know that Libra, Virgo and Scorio are very close not just position wise
but also trait wise and like you say chaos, they do seem to have this whole duality, male/female thing going on
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #38 - on: 04.09.2008 at 20:14 [UT+1] »Unfortunately all the glyphs are not shown, but you can compare some of the early medieval glyphs here:
http://www.astro-guide.com/msymbol.htm
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #39 - on: 04.09.2008 at 20:43 [UT+1] »i dont mean to hijack but you mentioned libra as a male sign but ruled by female venus> i think it is toointeresting that Scorpio is soooo much of Mars yet feminine. therefore, i noticed that Libra people with Scorpio
rising or vica versa, are the most interesting beings. very much men but very much women..irresistable! (sorry,
i am a taurus/aries..)
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Colin Dennis
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #40 - on: 04.09.2008 at 22:28 [UT+1] »Thanks for the link Myrios!
there definately has to be more to the glyphs than just meaning the sign they represent, I find the "m" thingwith scorpio and virgo interesting, its like their connected somehow...
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Colin Dennis

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #41 - on: 04.09.2008 at 22:31 [UT+1] »Thanks Tauries,
I think there could be some connection with those signs f g h purely because of these similarities, its allabout mixing feminine and masculine...
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #42 - on: 05.09.2008 at 18:05 [UT+1] »[quote author=Colin Dennis link=1220191000/0#0 date=1220191000]This might be a dumb question, but I
have to know... why are the signs and the planets represented by the shapes that they are.
I don't know the whole answer, but have my own ideas and suspicions. These glyphs developed along the
TRACKS of ancient religious beliefs, reflecting the earliest pagan (i.e. pastoral peoples) concepts of "gods."
To wit: AB as the first and most obvious celestial "lights" or "lamps" were worshipped in relation to theseasons, i.e. a time to sew, a time to reap ~ a pagan folk wisdom later absorbed into the lore of "Christianity"
along with its substitution of "new lamps for old" (read this as new gods for old).
The ancient Hindu use of special figures for numbers, inclucing zero ~ O ~ was spread through Europe by the
Arabic world in the Middle Ages ~ an important milestone for the development of technological and scientificcivilization along with capitalism and commerce of course.
The enigmatic Maya also used zero in their numerical system, and came closest to reckoning the exact length of
the solar year at 365.2420 days.

A the sun: a circle with a dot, I read that the dot means potential, the circle is the spirit
The association of O with A ~ consider that in Arabic, a circle "O" stands for "5" (5 digits on one hand being an
obvious early whole unit of measure) while a dot " . " signifies " O " ~ therefore the number "10" is written in
Arabic as "I."Consider this in the context of Greek Alpha (beginning or first) and Omega (The All, or Consummation) ~Greek capitalised "omega" looks very much like our modern symbol for K (moon) while it also bears a striking
resemblance to e ~ LEO being God/KING of the Greek Zodiakos ~ source of Hellenistic Astrology.
It all comes down to letters and numbers, mysticism, religion, and cabalistic numerology ~ every letter has anumerical equivalent. A=1, B=2 etc. and so forth up to the number 9 (and then start over).
N.B. also, number "9" itself resembles the ancient Egyptian glyph for "O" which was a beautiful open spiral,much like a bean tendril.
It all seems to boil down to the ancients' struggle for a monotheistic ownership of "god" ~ even the the word
mon-o-theism contains the B ~ moon (i.e. mon) while "mon" in re*verse becomes the root word "nom" for"number", or even for "name". Re*member that biblical Adam, the Alpha (first) male, claimed the "naming" of
all things in heaven and "as above, so below" became the norm for "man" kind ~ The Battle for "god" andbattle for the "sex" of god ~ Fat*Her Sun/Son over B Mother Moon.
Hard to follow the logic? Of course! LOGOS became the "word" and the "word" was made "god". That is why
nobody ever tries to get to the "bottom" of this connundrum - we are all just stuck with it. One is "named"
heretic or worse ~ burned at the stake for trying to explain it.
"irrational" she's "secondary" she's "void" of course!

B ~ Luna/looney ~ she's "nuts" she's

B the moon: symbol for the soul,Yup. Who has ever seen "the soul"? it is "nebulous" (starry). It is "unseen" and largely "unheard" in the din ofmodern rational scientific life ~ Science is our new God.
Just some initial ramblings to stir new thought ~ BTW also consider the associations between "thought" andancient Egyptian Thoth, Thot, Hermes, Mercury, messenger of the gods ~ trickster, liar, etc. etc.
Its not justthe written version of words, but their "sound" that we need to look at for clues.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #44 - on: 05.09.2008 at 18:43 [UT+1] »Pluto? Looks like A Holy Grail ~ sword and chalice ~ mind over matter ~ notice we are always pinned to thecross of matter or B*Leaf ~ If you don't mind it doesn't matter ~ Astrophysics?
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #45 - on: 05.09.2008 at 19:56 [UT+1] »Thank you Myrios,
this is excellent, you make great points about the linguistic aspects. So let me get this right, what I was saying
earlier about the astrological ages, and what you are saying about how "God" changes its focus, gender, typeetc. very interesting! Yes, objectively you could say this is a never ending conundrum, "God" almost doesnt
want to be figured out (in a sense). Also something that was said earlier, about how ancients made astrology asort of flawless system that you could take any person, point in time, event etc. and interpret the universe
through the symbols of astrology, the glyphs being a way of bundling meanings together...
hopefully without sounding like a vague "sit on the fence" answer, one could say that: "God" is essentially allthat is represented in astrology and the universe, all the meanings derived form an essential whole, not one
symbol standing alone accurately encompasses the fullness of the universe or "God" (universe and "God" youcould say are one in the same). In a way, contemplating that thought alone, that everything is a completenessand yet constituent parts one and the same, you kind of get a sense of it just is...
maybe life must pass through these symbolic, natural or unnatural cycles to keep it rich and alive
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #46 - on: 05.09.2008 at 20:01 [UT+1] »Thanks Tim,
That is what I had in mind about the parts of each glyph, circle, crescent, cross etc, mars is an interesting one.
so the arrow could be a crescent?
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #47 - on: 06.09.2008 at 20:01 [UT+1] »Quote from Colin Dennis on 05.09.2008 at 19:56 [UT+1]:
Thank you Myrios,
this is excellent, you make great points about the linguistic aspects. So let me get this right, what I was saying earlier about theastrological ages, and what you are saying about how "God" changes its focus, gender, type etc. very interesting! Yes, objectively you
could say this is a never ending conundrum, "God" almost doesnt want to be figured out (in a sense). Also something that was said earlier,about how ancients made astrology a sort of flawless system that you could take any person, point in time, event etc. and interpret theuniverse through the symbols of astrology, the glyphs being a way of bundling meanings together...
hopefully without sounding like a vague "sit on the fence" answer, one could say that: "God" is essentially all that is represented in
astrology and the universe, all the meanings derived form an essential whole, not one symbol standing alone accurately encompasses thefullness of the universe or "God" (universe and "God" you could say are one in the same). In a way, contemplating that thought alone,that everything is a completeness and yet constituent parts one and the same, you kind of get a sense of it just is...

maybe life must pass through these symbolic, natural or unnatural cycles to keep it rich and alive

Our civilized ways have made many of us creatures of leisure (or is that lie*sure) who now require copious
amounts of mental distraction to occupy "free time" ~ whereas long ago, we would simply have revelled in thewild struggle for survival and our "aliveness"would have been "here and now" and not "out there" in space orsome other place. While I enjoy the benefits (I'm "retired") of modern human life as much as the next guy, I
also regret deeply that we are destroying everything around us - "environment" or "universe" or "god" or"nature" - in our quest for "individual godhood". We have turned a blinded eye to the "essence" of LIFE itself ~that which is "innefable" - that which we cannot name or label or catalogue or reverse-engineer.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #48 - on: 06.09.2008 at 23:05 [UT+1] »Ex Member

Did you make this 'system' up yourself Tim or have you half-inched (pinched)it from somewhere?
it's interesting ..........

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #49 - on: 07.09.2008 at 00:15 [UT+1] »Surely science, astrology, religion, spirituality, common sense, art should all be brought together. We divide
realms of knowledge, put up borders and barriers between populations, isolate people through poverty andinequality, revel in materialistic fluff like the concepts of "celebrity" "fame" & "hapinness" which has become
something so utterly shallow and mind-numbing, and our governments are fixed in pointless money driven
wars everyone grasping for their slice of unfullfilling wealth and so called prestige... where does it end?? Theysay were entering a "new age", well its about time, does it get anymore bleak than this?? (depressed yet?)anyway, tangents. wonder if at the time these glyphs were invented they could have forseen the world in such apoor state as its in today?
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #50 - on: 07.09.2008 at 05:17 [UT+1] »Tim's information on the symbols is one that I have taught for many, many years. I have taught for so long
(37 years) that I have forgotten from whence I got the information, but think it may have been from the
Church of Light.

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Gender:Indeed, the half circle does represent the mind. The circle represents the spirit and the cross represents matter.
Mercury is the only inner planet that contains the whole three symbols and is therefore designated theMessenger of the Gods because its energy can understand the three realities and their combinations and'translate' them to the ordinary person.
All the transcendental planets are meant to have each of the symbols. Neptune was meant to have the circle ofspirit on the bottom, and the half circle of the mind crossing the stem, also making a cross of matter. This was
how it was originally drawn when I was a young student. I don't know when or why the circle of spirit was
dropped, but I do think it was a huge mistake. To constantly write the wrong symbol produces wrong
perceptions in the right hemisphere brain and therefore inability to use the energy at its best.
The original and correct symbol can been seen on the Aureas 8.5 site. You can download a trial version of the
program and it has this option for Neptune.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #51 - on: 07.09.2008 at 12:13 [UT+1] »Thank you Alice,
So this explanation is the standard way of explaining the symbols? So each of the planets through this way of
explaining, only represent the constiuent parts on the symbol....
so the moon B only represents mind
mercury C represents all threeD spirit over matter (no mind)
E spirit reaching out to mind (the arrow suggested to be a form of crecsent)
Etc. etc...
doesnt that suggest some superiority of mercury?? C also it relates to earlier in this thread about androgyny, if
mercury has this "all aspects" and on top of that, it has its cross gender qualities. It also rules Virgo which as
mentioned earlier is part of this f g h combination of representing blending of masculinity with femininity
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Membercompletely pinched, to Charlie« Reply #52 - on: 07.09.2008 at 18:20 [UT+1] »Charlie,
Quote:
Did you make this 'system' up yourself Tim or have you half-inched (pinched)it from somewhere?

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Completely pinched!
Saw it in Dell Horoscope a long time ago and it stuck with me. Suddenly the
astrological planetary symbols and meanings made much more sense!
Taking,Tim

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Memberarrow is a crescent, to Colin« Reply #53 - on: 07.09.2008 at 18:24 [UT+1] »Colin,
You asked:
Quote:
so the arrow could be a crescent?

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The "arrow" on top of E is a cross in some astrological planetary symbol systems.
Martially,
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #54 - on: 07.09.2008 at 18:39 [UT+1] »Ah I see, so D is spirit above matter and E is matter above spirit?

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #55 - on: 07.09.2008 at 19:35 [UT+1] »There's a very rare book, Transcendental Astrology by AGS Norris, with some very interesting diagrams about
glyph formation.
As for new bodies, unless declared a planet, astronomers will not be bothered.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #56 - on: 07.09.2008 at 19:36 [UT+1] »Thank you,sounds like its worth a look!
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Ah I see, so

D is spirit above matter and E is matter above spirit?

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #58 - on: 08.09.2008 at 20:40 [UT+1] »Quote from Colin Dennis on 31.08.2008 at 15:06 [UT+1]:

k Aquarius: looks like water but is also said to represent electricity

I know some won't agree at all, but in my old astrology books, it is said that it could represent 2 snakes,
related to knowledge.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #59 - on: 08.09.2008 at 20:43 [UT+1] »Thats interesting but why use snakes, of all things, to represent knowledge?
Mind you, why use water or electricity to represent knowledge?
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #60 - on: 08.09.2008 at 21:09 [UT+1] »Quote from Colin Dennis on 08.09.2008 at 20:43 [UT+1]:
Thats interesting but why use snakes, of all things, to represent knowledge?
Mind you, why use water or electricity to represent knowledge?

The Serpent is one of the MOST ANCIENT of all symbols, strongly associated with WATER, ((source of all Life
Energy ~ which begins with wriggly worm or snake-like organisms ~ all regulated by B in the REAL world)).
Pythia/Python ~ Mt. Olympus ~ seat of the great wisdom oracle of the ancients, said to be a snake/python.
Think about the relationships between water and energy ~ you get Life. Lightning strikes water or earth ~an energy reaction takes place.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #61 - on: 08.09.2008 at 21:32 [UT+1] »Wow thank you!
this is interesting, so all in all from the symbol k we get they symbol for new knowledge, some strike ofinspiration, new life... interesting
now about gemini c you the priestess card in a deck of tarot she is depicated with two pillars either side of her.
They are said to be the pillars of knowledge I think, so is this what c is related

b is a circle (spirit) below a crescent (mind) what does this have to do with taurus concepts
d is like yin yang, a symbol for birth and death, opposites, life itself,
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #62 - on: 08.09.2008 at 22:16 [UT+1] »Quote from Colin Dennis on 08.09.2008 at 21:32 [UT+1]:
Wow thank you!
this is interesting, so all in all from the symbol

k we get they symbol for new knowledge, some strike of inspiration, new life...

interesting
now about geminic you the priestess card in a deck of tarot she is depicated with two pillars either side of her. They are said to be thec is related

pillars of knowledge I think, so is this whatb is a circle (spirit) below a crescent (mind) what does this have to do with taurus concepts
d is like yin yang, a symbol for birth and death, opposites, life itself,

Colin, ~ You are already filling your own "boxes" or "glyphs" with content that interests you uniquely.
Here's the way I see symbols/glyphs/letters ~ language itself. All are simply little squiggles (e Cerastes' ~worms).
Some of them are twisted into godly shapes ~ A
Some are split and re*modelled to re*present old truths B
Some are straight*end to trap B (mind) in angles t and boxes oSome become like railroad tracks k ushering us into a new "promised land".
Some are transformed or trance*formed into "new gods-given graven images" FGOIJNM ~ to be
swallowed whole by the astro*litter*ate world.

g for me re*presents Humpty Dumpty - she's had a great "fall" ~ caught between fh ~ a rock and a hardplace.
b is simply the Egyptian Cow goddess HatHors old hat - the Aten Sun Disk and the Moon Crescent as seen atcertain times of year, horns up.
c for me seems related to d k l and even g but I haven't developed my thoughts on their twisted
associations yet.
I'm not totally irreverent about Astrolgy or its potential value as a tool for psychological self-understanding.
I'm just extremely cautious about how/what Astrology is being used for, by whom, and to what ends.
Always question Authority and use your own Intuition.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #63 - on: 08.09.2008 at 23:04 [UT+1] »Myrios,I was merely trying to spark conversation. I realise that what I say is useless in the sense that it doesnt explain.
The reason for what I'm saying here is to spark others like yourself to tap into new ways of looking at it, andold ways.
So though the suggestions I make are not truthful, use them to think at search for more. I'm blowing hot air
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #64 - on: 09.09.2008 at 18:33 [UT+1] »I already said I thought your thread was. If you are just "blowing hot air" (as you say), then you yourself
may be missing new insights in the responses of others here more dedicated to seeking "Truth". You havealready received attention from several "big players" in this field!!
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #65 - on: 10.09.2008 at 10:56 [UT+1] »no no missing information, just annoying people until they give it lol!! I know its a cheap thing to do but... wellugh.... I dont have excuse. What I'm saying is I might not be as fortunate with the stuff I know but others are
and when you spark up debate and discussion we all end up better off. All I meant was that I was justsuggesting things to get people talking, thats all, but I'm listening intently
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #66 - on: 11.09.2008 at 09:49 [UT+1] »Quote from Colin Dennis on 08.09.2008 at 20:43 [UT+1]:
Thats interesting but why use snakes, of all things, to represent knowledge?

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #67 - on: 11.09.2008 at 10:29 [UT+1] »Thats an interesting point. Religion and Astrology often get tied up I bet

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #68 - on: 11.09.2008 at 18:17 [UT+1] »Read the paul Against Astrology Thread for comments on that.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #69 - on: 11.09.2008 at 18:22 [UT+1] »Thats an interesting point. Religion and Astrology often get tied up I bet Colin Denis
Also read Blanca thread on Asteroids & Modern Astrology to understand Astrology as a tool, model to be inneed of continous improvement in its prediction through feedback & removal/correction of faulty elements/sources of analysis!

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #70 - on: 11.09.2008 at 18:28 [UT+1] »Quote from Mina75 on 11.09.2008 at 09:49 [UT+1]:
Quote from Colin Dennis on 08.09.2008 at 20:43 [UT+1]:
Thats interesting but why use snakes, of all things, to represent knowledge?

it is so in the Bible, snake tempted Adam & Eve with the fruit of... knowledge(+ Mercure's caduceus, looking like DNA)In Neo-Paganism and Wicca, the snake is seen as a symbol of wisdom and knowledge.

Consider the constellation HYDRA as the (seven-headed) snake, EVE as the constellation Virgo/Virgin, and LEO
as the first Egyptian Male God/King, or A Dam.
A = 1 ~ 1 + . = 10 ~ a nether way of seeing what K-now-ledge may be. i.e. The first graven images trapping
the B mind in Earth angels/angles and crosses (+) bringing the "know-ledge" through 7 or L ~ I am naked
and ashamed of being so, even though that is how I came into the world. We are 4 bidden to go naked
to this day.
Ponder long.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #71 - on: 11.09.2008 at 21:31 [UT+1] »I remember reading somewhere that Cancer d even though it is thought of as a crab had throughout history
also been a scarab (the scarab of Isis) and a turtle like creature, all have shells.
Cancer I believe is also connected with the Hydra isnt it?? In the 12 labours of Heracles, Hera (Isis) sends a
crab (scarab) to stifle Heracles when he fights the Lernean Hydra, she (Hera/Isis/ a goddess figure, could all be
related to mother goddess) rewards her creature (crab, scarab, whatever) by sending it into the heavens tobecome the constellation.
Cancer represents mother, goddess, moon, and water creatures, crustaceans, turtles, and a scarab beetle. So
what is this connection here with a goddess and some funny water creature?? and furthermore why is it related
to the Hydra, and furthermore are Virgo and Cancer thus related to the same goddess figure??
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #72 - on: 12.09.2008 at 18:11 [UT+1] »AAAA(h) ... now we are (=R) getting somewhere (=S -Om- W- H-Ere).
Examining (Ex _"A"_mining) Symbols (= SYM*BOWLS or Sym(liar)Bowls).
R=Ra or Re ~ compare it with RAY of the A Gods ~ a series of SYRIUS starry Kings in original (or*A*gyne*All)
E_Gypt.
Like Babble from Babylon, ancient symbols are all mixed up (in the mindbending bowl of Plato's CAVE =BRAIN) and re-mixed in snakey Pythia-gora-S "right-thin*king" Pyth*Agora*n Y ~"Let A = 1 = I = L = EL = HEGOD"
Turn the key on a Spanish "he brew" EL Tora (Rota or Wrote A) to get it all mixed UP and RE*versed into new
formulations (Form*ewe"late*ions).
I just learned yesterday that the Yanks destroyed The Tower of Babble (along with other deeply symbolical
Eastern stuff) as one of their FIRST ACTS when they entered Iraq. So be prepared to meet thy REAL god in
the NEW-S-Reel world of the war led World.
Muse on that for a while.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #73 - on: 12.09.2008 at 23:46 [UT+1] »Thanks Myrios!
just to add a little something, (sorry if this goes a little out of topic) have you ever seen the Tarot card deck
Aliester Crowley made? the Thoth Tarot Deck, well in it, the Tower card has on it a wrecked tower, a serpantwith the sun around it, and eagle, a giant all seeing eye and a flaming mouth. at the bottom of the card is the
symbol for mars E god of war, I just found it uncanny the connection between the things you said, Tower ofBable, War and the things we mentioned earlier about snakes and serpeants especially as it has the sun aroundthe serpant on the card (very astrological looking) and an eagle possible related to Scorpio again related tomars god of war and the symbol E all connected to Tower, War and....
.... interstingly the tarot card "the tower" is often said to represent a necessary storm, a whirl of chaos before
new life begins, necessary change. Sorry if this looks like a sticky mess of meanings, but I hope you see how
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #74 - on: 13.09.2008 at 14:36 [UT+1] »Yes. I have Crowley's Deck. He reportedly carefully included every relevant occult symbol in that work.
Hajo Banzhaf & Brigitte Theler published a book on it ~ "Keywords For The Crowley Tarot". I haven't studied it
much. It does tie in Astrology and Kabbalah. Keep absorbing.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #75 - on: 13.09.2008 at 21:45 [UT+1] »Again Thank you myrios!
I must find this book. I love the Crowley Deck, its so amazing to look at, the artwork is so vivid and awe
inspiring. It would be great to see some of the insights!
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #76 - on: 16.09.2008 at 19:41 [UT+1] »Look on the back of a US one dollar bill ~ the all-seeing eye in the pyramid~ connection to our heritage in theunder*lying myths from ancient Egypt. Pent(5)*Agon. Washington DC laid out so that Pennsylvania Ave
provides a view of the setting sun from the Capitol building annually on August 10 in e. On that day the sun isin 17* Leo and Leo star Regulus (The Regulator) sets over the White House a half hour+ after sunset, leaving
star Spica in Virgo, and Arctures in Bootes. These three stars are the ones which masons Pike and Brunet
recognized as those which contain Virgo=Isis=Ceres=Virgin=f=WOMAN. The message I get is clear.

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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #77 - on: 17.09.2008 at 20:05 [UT+1] »I watched a tv program the other day about sculptures and land art. They talk about Land art that was made intune with the movements of the stars and the solstices. Stonehenge in all its fame was on the program,apparently stonehenge is said to be a representation of a womb. At one of the solstices (I cant remember
which) at the sunrise, there is a stone in line perfectly to the entrance of the circle of stonehenge, when the suncasts a shadow at this paricular point, a shadow is made and it looks like a phallic shape entering the womb.
This is an ancient pagan thing to with creation and fertility.
The pyramids at Giza are a said to be aligned astrologically arent they, I wonder how many important buildings
are made in such ways, why all this fuss about making things that align with the sky
Back to GLyphs, I'd like to know more about the c glyph as I read somewhere that is related to the pillars ofknowledge as seen on the Priestess Tarot card, its more commonly seen on a Rider Waite Deck I think? I thinkin some, or alot of symbols are based on a set standard of symbols, we seem to see the zodiac glyphs quite alot everyday and also the star signs themselves.
For example, on the outside of the Catholic church in our town, there are four statues. One is a Bull (Taurus),
one is a Lion (Leo), one is an Eagle (Scorpio as Scorpio is also the eagle of truth) and the other a man(Aquarius in fact) as the same four figures are found on the Tarot cards the World and sometimes the Hermit ineach of the four corners. These four star signs are all the fixed signs of the zodiac.

g is the omega atop a line. The omega obviously seen as meaning the end of the greek alphabet. I glyph isthe symbol used by the British psychological association. The cross on G F D C M I O all looks I believe
related to the same as the crucifix which in turn relates also to the Southern cross (constellation) also known as
the Crux.

a glyph and pictorial representation of a ram relates to common depictions of the devil and also the greek god
pan, (the greek god pan is also where we get the word panic from as it relates to the fear the of seeing pan thatstrikes in the mortals heart who looks at him) d is also the yin yang as we said before.
also how come features such as the triple goddess (also the moirae), mother and child (e.g. Isis andHorus/Mary and Jesus), a crucified person (which actually is a very common religous theme) why are these all
founfd across religions and yet we still view ourselves as seperate from each other and warring with each other.
Interestingly Tons of deities can be related to astrology. Astrological symbols have been around for thousandsof years and seem to hold the knowledges commonly held belief systems together. Again we go back to thezodiac and astrology being a virtually flawless system for interpreting the world. Its a wonder why Astrology
hasnt been accepted by certain religions and science. Instead of dismissing it, astrology should be embraced asa key part of our finding out the truth about mankind kind. You have to be objective enough to consider all
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #78 - on: 20.09.2008 at 19:27 [UT+1] »Quote from Colin Dennis on 17.09.2008 at 20:05 [UT+1]:
I watched a tv program the other day about sculptures and land art. They talk about Land art that was made in tune with the movementsof the stars and the solstices. Stonehenge in all its fame was on the program, apparently stonehenge is said to be a representation of awomb. At one of the solstices (I cant remember which) at the sunrise, there is a stone in line perfectly to the entrance of the circle ofstonehenge, when the sun casts a shadow at this paricular point, a shadow is made and it looks like a phallic shape entering the womb.
This is an ancient pagan thing to with creation and fertility.
The pyramids at Giza are a said to be aligned astrologically arent they, I wonder how many important buildings are made in such ways,
why all this fuss about making things that align with the sky
Back to GLyphs, I'd like to know more about thec glyph as I read somewhere that is related to the pillars of knowledge as seen on thePriestess Tarot card, its more commonly seen on a Rider Waite Deck I think? I think in some, or alot of symbols are based on a set
standard of symbols, we seem to see the zodiac glyphs quite a lot everyday and also the star signs themselves.
For example, on the outside of the Catholic church in our town, there are four statues. One is a Bull (Taurus), one is a Lion (Leo), one is
an Eagle (Scorpio as Scorpio is also the eagle of truth) and the other a man (Aquarius in fact) as the same four figures are found on the
Tarot cards the World and sometimes the Hermit in each of the four corners. These four star signs are all the fixed signs of the zodiac.

g is the omega atop a line. The omega obviously seen as meaning the end of the greek alphabet. I glyph is the symbol used by the
British psychological association. The cross on G F D C M I O all looks I believe related to the same as the crucifix which in turn
relates also to the Southern cross (constellation) also known as the Crux.

a glyph and pictorial representation of a ram relates to common depictions of the devil and also the greek god pan, (the greek god pan is
also where we get the word panic from as it relates to the fear the of seeing pan that strikes in the mortals heart who looks at him) d isalso the yin yang as we said before.
also how come features such as the triple goddess (also the moirae), mother and child (e.g. Isis and Horus/Mary and Jesus), a crucified
person (which actually is a very common religous theme) why are these all founfd across religions and yet we still view ourselves asseperate from each other and warring with each other. Interestingly Tons of deities can be related to astrology. Astrological symbols havebeen around for thousands of years and seem to hold the knowledges commonly held belief systems together. Again we go back to thezodiac and astrology being a virtually flawless system for interpreting the world. Its a wonder why Astrology hasnt been accepted bycertain religions and science. Instead of dismissing it, astrology should be embraced as a key part of our finding out the truth aboutmankind kind. You have to be objective enough to consider all forms of knowledge and bring them together be it scientific, spiritual,religious, investigative, psychological, cultural, art etc etc.

From the copious reading and searching I've done Colin, I conclude there's much more hidden in the skies
through manmade artifice than a puny astrology can reveal in one chart. I don't see it as a flawless or seamlesssystem either.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #79 - on: 01.12.2008 at 12:50 [UT] »So, here I jump in, quite some time after the disussion is over.....
I am beginning to feel frustrated about all the inconsequenses I see in astrology. I DO see a LOT of meaning inastrology, but there are so many questions (and of course there has to be!).
I guess I'm at a point where I need to start making my own view of it, finding my own way to use andunderstand it. My main interest for the time being is in mythology and symbology. But I wonder, how do wehandle the fact that the symbols/glyphs/mythology in the astrology we use today is such a complex mix of somany different ages and belief systems?
How can we make a workeable, valid, modern system of all that?
What are your thoughts.....?
I feel the planets we use in western astrology seem too few, and not alwasy very valid. What they represent isgotten mostly from the roman mythological world... how do we relate to that world today? I feel they (theplanets/symbols) do not cover up what is there.... or do they? What am I missing?
Also, the constellations seem in a way more valid than the planets. The discussion above about the different
Ages and their correspondances with certain constellations/overall characteristics seems meaningful, but when I(being a Cancer Sun/AC thus Moon-ruled) then look at my chart and try to interpret the Cancerian stuff it kindof reduces me to an overemotional smothering Motherly feelin caring type who is Moon-ruled. I feel that's notenough, that's all too shallow. WHAT WAS THE MOON IN THE CANCERIAN AGE? THAT I would like to get a feelof! I need to CONNECT to the ancient and the eternal. There have been SO many Moon-goddesses! And why
are there a Black Moon Lilith, and a White Moon Selena? What happened in history and what does that mean to
us today??
What do you feel and think about this......?
Blessings
Pondering Heart
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #80 - on: 01.12.2008 at 13:05 [UT] »if you extend the aquarius glyph/join up, it looks like www (internet)

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very interesting thread, need to go read it all now
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #81 - on: 02.12.2008 at 05:20 [UT] »Quote from Colin Dennis on 31.08.2008 at 20:03 [UT+1]:
Yes!!!! I've heard that about the sphinx too!!!! I mean if all this is the case and we really are moving through ages and all these things aresort of happening on cue, who is pulling the strings, its like a big mystery.
I have thought for a long time that is something undercurrent. I just have a feeling that there is some kind of hidden wisdom behind thesymbols.
Sorry to rant, but I just feel like, why arent more people paying attention to this. We can probably learn more from astrology than was
thought previous. I have a gut feeling that theres more to all the symbols than meets the eye

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Your gut is correct, people are either too afraid to perceive it and take a closer look at the [language] or ... they
understand it and consciously do not disclose it for their own ego reasons. The research is "out there" to find,read and believe - as the saying goes: "Leading a horse to water is easier than convincing the horse to drink thewater."
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #82 - on: 08.12.2008 at 04:06 [UT] »Quote from Alice McDermott on 07.09.2008 at 05:17 [UT+1]:
Tim's information on the symbols is one that I have taught for many, many years. I have taught for so long (37 years) that I haveforgotten from whence I got the information, but think it may have been from the Church of Light.
Indeed, the half circle does represent the mind. The circle represents the spirit and the cross represents matter.
Mercury is the only inner planet that contains the whole three symbols and is therefore designated the Messenger of the Gods because its
energy can understand the three realities and their combinations and 'translate' them to the ordinary person.
All the transcendental planets are meant to have each of the symbols. Neptune was meant to have the circle of spirit on the bottom, andthe half circle of the mind crossing the stem, also making a cross of matter. This was how it was originally drawn when I was a young
student. I don't know when or why the circle of spirit was dropped, but I do think it was a huge mistake. To constantly write thewrong symbol produces wrong perceptions in the right hemisphere brain and therefore inability
to use the energy at its best.
The original and correct symbol can been seen on the Aureas 8.5 site. You can download a trial version of the program and it has thisoption for Neptune.
Alice

To constantly write the wrong symbol produces wrong perceptions in the right hemisphere brain andtherefore inability to use the energy at its best.

Somehow that statement managed to whiz by me without comment the first time I read it, Alice. At times
threads go so fast and furious that some great points are overlooked while one tries to keep up in the melee.
The constant repetition of a visual symbol (language) = the neuro-linguistic programming of the human brain.
But as children we are unaware that the programming is being fed into our brain until it has already beenaccomplished!
Remember the sub-liminal sexual messages hidden in Camel cigarette ads and Coke imagery? Similar idea repetition of phallic imagery to stimulate a desire response for the product. I learned when I worked in t.v. thatfive ad repetitions are the minimum for the brain to "record" the "message." I am not a linguist, simply anavidly interested fCA type with a big MnA complex
We learn by rote. It takes us almost two decades from birth to adulthood to learn the basics of becoming afunctioning unit (monad) of society. We are born into this system, taking it for granted that what we aretaught by our culture is "true" and "real" and "natural" and "good". But when one thinks about this, one
realises that knowledge and wisdom are not really the same thing. Wisdom does not come to us through words
learned, it comes with the real experience of life challenges and problems.
The best knowledge comes to us wordlessly, that is, with insight, in a flash or vision that one cannot express
well verbally, or communicate, or "translate" to an other.
Word-controlled humans, be wary of the wyrds you swallow.
Thanks Alice.
Myrios.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #83 - on: 08.12.2008 at 05:31 [UT] »Quote from David Mastry on 31.08.2008 at 20:32 [UT+1]:...I met a mystic Christain Sciencetist once who told me there is a diiference between Satan and Lucifer [I reaally, don't like discuusing
this topic, as it gets too far off the subject of astrol.] ..Lucifer is/was an Angel and Satan doesn't appear as an Angel but is portrayed as aHorned man with the lower body of a goat and he said the clue was in the apocryphal book [can't quite remember the title off hand]about Adam and his first wife Lilith...and I linked this to what Edgar Cayce said about the earlier sexual escapades of 'Spirit manifesting inmatter here'...

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Sort of conjures up an image of what an actual goat does when it's left alone, it eats everything in sight andleaves everything baron - like what is happening to our world right now with minerals being pulled out of theearth, land being gobbled up and polluted and left behind, dismantled for baron waste land sounds aboutaccurate? no?
All matter and no spirit = no more matter . . . and round and round we all go, the merry-go-round just keeps
getting oiled until it rusts and falls off its hinges.
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Re: Astrological Glyphs« Reply #84 - on: 04.03.2009 at 18:00 [UT] »Have been gone awhile, but wanted to revisit and reread some of the older threads, and refresh this one inparticular.
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