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Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« on: 15.12.2007 at 21:07 [UT] »I recently discovered that my birth time was incorrect and that I have Neptune in the 7th. It explained a lot:co-dependent relationships, attracting people who "need" help and/or people with addictions, a desire for a
deep spiritual connection in my relationships, projecting my own needs onto another, illusion vs. reality, being

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Gender:deceived by others or deceiving oneself in partnership, and, in short, coming out of the womb with a huge pairof rose-coloured glasses firmly in place.
I'm now studying psychotherapy (after studying psychology) and I can see this placement now through adifferent lens; one that is not so foggy.
I think that this placement is largely about the projection of one's own needs and often manifests bysurrendering ourselves to someone (or something??) and then belatedly realizing that we were, at least in part,living an illusion.
I will say that I think that there are some beautiful qualities inherent in this placement. The act of being able tosurrender in relationship is something that can be quite difficult for some people and I think it's a gift to beable to do this. When it's done unconsciously, however, it plays out in an unhealthy way and creates illusions,
delusions and ultimately ends up being a form of escapism.
According to some astrologers, it's also indicative of trying to find God through relationships and for those on a
spiritual path, this can be a meaningful realization.
Obviously aspects made to Neptune will have much bearing on how this plays out in your chart and in your life.
Plus, we all have free will regardless of our astrology so I think that this placement can be used for much good
once those with this placement become aware and take responsibility for their choices.
I would love to hear from anyone with Neptune in the 7th: how has it manifested in your life? How do you feel
about it? What addictive behaviours do you have or have you overcome? Etc. Etc.
I think that this is one of those placements that once transcended can be a truly beautiful and significant partof one's (chart and) life.

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #1 - on: 15.12.2007 at 21:17 [UT] »Well, in true Neptunian fashion, I realized after posting my thread that there is already another thread about
this same topic on this board.

Ah well.

Feel free to post here anyhow, if you like, since my interest is largely based in psychology and the idea ofPosts: 705
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discuss that as well.
Totally not trying to be a thread-stealer here.

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #2 - on: 15.12.2007 at 21:21 [UT] »haven't you seen a little below that i have made a I in 7th topic?

just had a neptune experience - i have it natally - on the short, i put a friend on a pedestal, didn't mind any of
the incompatibilities, got too attached, got rejected and now in pain

and yes, it did start from the illusion of "saving"not joking

worst thing, all along i got several warnings from that friend not to do it, cause i might get hurt, but i=I justwouldn't listen

mine is square moon, so clearly emotional dissapointment and pain

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cloverMember

Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #3 - on: 15.12.2007 at 21:43 [UT] »Teoaqua
I know! Sorry about stealing your thread!!! My Mercury opposing my Neptune made me do it!!
I haveNeptune quincunx Moon and I assume that it is similar to the square in terms of it's personal challenges.
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Gender:Mmmmmhmmmm, I know about the pedestal. And about ignoring the incompatibilities, or even not seeing
them as such. For example, my ex is an athiest and I am very spiritual. He definitely felt that these differences
would not fare well in a long-term relationship and he broke up with me over 6 months ago. I'm still dealing
with that since I was convinced I wanted to marry him. Part of me is still on the fence about it, if you canbelieve that. It was the most painful rejection of my entire life, but sometimes we need those to give us a slap
in the face.
Hopefully, that slap makes the infamous rose-coloured glasses fall right off.

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Teoaqua
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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #4 - on: 15.12.2007 at 21:59 [UT] »that's ok, i am glad there is another one interested in the topic

yes, me too....i am religious, my friend cut off with God and is agnostic and doesn't know how to forgive

yes, i got my slap recently, and try to convince the person but no more replies....so painful
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Ruth Ahlgren

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #5 - on: 18.12.2007 at 22:13 [UT] »I have Neptune in the 7th in the 7th if I chart placidus but it is in 8th under equal house system. Which should
I believe?
I also have saturn and mars conjunct in the 7th in opposition to jupiter in the first.
I'm wondering at this rather late time in my life whether I am up for friendship. Rather sad, I've always caredabout people, but at this time I am aware something is not working too well.
My true node is in the 12th house. I'm not an expert in astrology but understand that maybe I should beworking at being with my self more and considering more spiritual aspects than I have.
Neptune in my seventh is positively aspected with sun, but negatively aspected with uranus.
I'd be interested in your views
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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #6 - on: 19.12.2007 at 23:41 [UT] »I've learned to work with my 7thI. Half the battle is knowing there's a problem.
I was usually the one who would think of the pitfalls, and warn others that it wouldn't work. I have a prominent

G and it s my D, though.

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #7 - on: 20.12.2007 at 08:47 [UT] »rose alquist
Going on just those aspects, I would suspect that you might experience a push-pull effect when it comes torelationships. You want to, but you don't...or perhaps you feel you cannot? Neptune in the 7th tends to
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Pluto or Uranus? I'm not quite clear about what you were saying about friendships...
As for NN in the 12th, I would definitely agree that if you're feeling the desire to expand your spiritualawareness, then you should listen to that desire. I believe that this placement is about going within andconnecting with universal consciousness, among other things. Which sign is your NN in?
As for equal house versus placidus, I'm not sure I'm the best person to ask. Perhaps someone else would be
able to give you a response

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #8 - on: 20.12.2007 at 08:48 [UT] »Neptune'sChildI definitely agree with the "knowing is hallf the battle" thing. The more aware we are of anything, the better off
we are, but I think when it comes to astrology, this is particularly true for 7th house Neptune.
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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #9 - on: 28.12.2007 at 02:45 [UT] »Clover:Thanks for your analysis. I think you're right.
You asked about Saturn's aspects. Saturn is opposed Jupiter in the 1st and both Saturn and Neptune aresquare Uranus in the 5th. Tough eh?
Uranus in the 5th has been very very tough.
Regards,
Rosie
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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #10 - on: 28.12.2007 at 04:20 [UT] »Clover:Forget to mention.. NN in pisces in 12.

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lioninrain

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #11 - on: 28.12.2007 at 06:33 [UT] »Funny that you mention "saving" people....I tried to do that for over a decade in my 1st marriage - thought hejust needed confidence, felt so sorry for him. Until I finally woke up and realized it was all just a big ploy - play
helpless type of thing. Rose colored glasses indeed.
I have Neptune in Scorpio 7th pEFDd in the 4th, pGl 12th, qOJ 5th, o A 5th, and nBb in the 1st

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #12 - on: 28.12.2007 at 07:45 [UT] »rose NN in Pisces in the 12th? I would guess you're feeling the urge to dig into spirit!!! I have NN in the 6th in

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Scorpio and SN in Taurus (conjunct my Moon - yay). I think you and I are meeting on the Node bridge
Maybe we should exhange tips?? Yeah, Uranus in the 5th is hard, especially squaring Neptune. Before I foundout my actual birth time, I had Uranus there too but now I have found it's actually in the 6th which makes a lot
more sense to me.
lioninrain My second long-term relationship lasted 7 years and I think I was more invested in saving the relationship thanin saving him specifically but it amounts to the same thing when it's a lost cause. As for trying to save people,
I've had my fair share of those experiences too - a lot of alcoholic/"chronic" boyfriends, beginning when I was
15 and continuing on for about 15 years after that. My second-last relationship was with a former crack-addict
and alcoholic so maybe I've finally turned the corner on that sort of mate selection.

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Geoffrey Hillend

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #13 - on: 28.12.2007 at 07:48 [UT] »I have Venus in Pisces and it is sesquiquadrate Neptune which is similar to Neptune in the 7th house. There areno perfect relationships. According to Jung all relationships are based on need but it is often unconscious. A
person who didn't think they had any needs would always feel superior to their partner and could not relate on
an equal basis.
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sometimes people can are attracted to qualities they lack within themselves which are found in abundance thepartner; one without a lot of air could be attracted to someone who has a lot of it.
A person with projected Neptune could be attracted to a priest, a spiritual guru, psychic healer etc. or someone
talented in the music, film or the arts.

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Micha
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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #14 - on: 29.12.2007 at 00:04 [UT] »Is this the Neptune self help group? My name is Micha and I too have Neptune in the 7th. It all started long
ago at the age of 6.....my fantasies of the perfect relationship that is. Every year since then I was interested insomeone. When one crush ended another one started. And then add the music.....all those sappy love songs!
They really helped the fantasies along! I'm on my second (and hopefully last) marriage but in my fantasies ofthe past I must have gotten married 20 times. Quite the imagination eh?
And yes, I have also been attracted to a few that needed some "saving." I have my Neptune in Scorpio andmany seem to say that this position is linked to addictions or trying to save those addicted to drugs, alcohol,
etc. For me, I'm only addicted to love and chocolate. And I have never ever been interested in those withdrug/alcohol troubles. I have empathy for them in that it was probably some sort emotional turmoil that led
to their addictions but those are problems I can do without.
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Gender:I have Neptune squaring Venus (in Aquarius) and sextile Pluto in Virgo. In addition, Neptune is conjunct myDC and therefore in opposition to my ascendant. I find that my perceptions of others can be quite confusing.
I can analyze other peoples relationships quite well but when it comes to mine, forget it! I have a hard time
trusting my intuition. I usually talk myself out of believing anyone close to me can be deceptive thanks tothose rose colored glasses and as a result I've had the rug pulled from under me.
I also have Neptune trine Chiron but not sure how this one plays out. Perhaps by using my relationship lessons
to help advise others? And if anyone is interested in discussing Neptune transits, what are the possible affectsof having Neptune square Natal Neptune?
Looking for some clear glasses,
Micha

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Geoffrey Hillend

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #15 - on: 29.12.2007 at 00:51 [UT] »Neptune Chiron helping other people with their relationships sounds fine.
Neptune square Neptune; it depends on the houses. I was heavily into astrology during the sextile but during
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the square which occurs across my first and fourth houses, I was challenged to understand more of the mysticaldimensions of spirituality; dreams, active imagination etc. This aspect is very subtle and it is hard to know forsure just how it manifested in my life. I had Neptune Sun square just before my Neptune square Neptune
began.

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #16 - on: 29.12.2007 at 17:54 [UT] »I am dating someone with Neptune in the 7th opposing Saturn in the first house. How do you think this
aspect, or Neptune in the 7th generally, plays out in a relationship. To me, it seems like he he puts up
boundaries, then looks to me to dissolve them....

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Re: Neptune in the 7th House Group Therapy« Reply #17 - on: 29.12.2007 at 19:14 [UT] »Yeah, I guess I gave up on the "saving" thing sometime around my 1st Saturn return. I can honestly say I
don't do that anymore. I will not put more energy into anyone's life than they are willing to expend....
After that lengthy lesson, I learned that maybe that's just how they want to be and don't need "saving" at all.
So nowadays I just shrug & let them be themselves, just don't necessarily let them into my realm...
Kind of a "Sure go ahead, be yourself - just do it over there."
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