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« on: 12.05.2012 at 02:26 [UT+1] »For Libra rising, Saturn is now in the first house and leaving for Scorpio in October this year.
Saturn re-structures the identity (1st house) with a new view of the world and of life. The present and pastPosts: 222

things that worked were dissolved in the 12th house and now Saturn is set to discipline the self with a newcode of conduct.
Libra is intellectual, cardinal, initiating and though described as the relationship and sentimental sign, it isactually a segregating principle. Libra now sets a new standard (Saturn) for physical beauty (separating fromthe ugly), a new standard for emotional goodness (separating from the bad), a new intellectual standard fortruth (separating from the error view point of Saturn society), and a new spiritual awareness of the divine(separating from the temporal and divisions).
What we do today becomes the past tomorrow and when Saturn changes sign to Scorpio and enters the second
house of valued and preferred, desired goods, which are distinct from bads. We go for goods and services, notbads and disservices. If we are conscious of what we do today, we create a new past for the future tomorrow,and the next 29 years of Saturn through the houses. We create new memory programs (today) for thesubconscious Moon to override the memories from childhood and maybe before that. Well, even if we areunaware of what we are doing now, it still becomes created without our permission.
Every action, word and thought that we initiate is recorded in the collective unconscious, the storehouse ofmemory which is perfect. They in turn move us from within from now on, whether we are aware of it or not.
Fred Alan Wolf, a Physicist, put this collective unconscious as the quantum wave field for physical matter. ABiologist, Rupert Sheldrake, called this collective unconscious the morphic field for life energy, or bio energy.
Carl Jung, a Psychologist, called it the collective unconscious for the psyche.
In Astrology, this collective unconscious is represented by the 12th house, which Saturn had left before
entering the first house. This is the realm of the Mystic Masters (Rosicrucians), the Invisible Masters(Theosophists), the Buddhist Sangha of Arhats, and the Taoist Immortals. In a more “down-to-earth” name forthe collective unconscious, it is the Consciousness of Parallel Universes by a Physicist, Fred Alan Wolf. Of course,
quantum physicists are not dealing with things at all, but the connections between things.
What I am now doing is the past for tomorrow. In fact, it is already history by the time it reaches the reader. Itis the memory (Moon) of the future when I have forgotten what I write/ wrote in the present/ past. I may well
ask in the future, “What the devil prompts me to do this?”
As usual, this is a musing that is shared with the world. Venus Sagittarius third. I love (Venus) to teach(Sagittarius) the world (third) to sing (Venus) in perfect harmony (Venus).
This is an old song of the olderfolks.
Libra rising, creating a new past, a new Moon,Thomas

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« Reply #1 - on: 16.05.2012 at 10:26 [UT+1] »Lovely post Thomas !
Isn't time irrelevant through, are we not living each moment now, even if we call it the past. Is just a label
because Humanity needs one? Essentially there is no history because it's still happening
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« Reply #2 - on: 16.05.2012 at 17:36 [UT+1] »That is a wonderful post Thomas. I'm a Libra rising, and a Venus Sag in the third.
What do you feel changed when T Saturn crossed into your First?

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« Reply #3 - on: 17.05.2012 at 02:11 [UT+1] »Quote from Nikki10 on 16.05.2012 at 10:26 [UT+1]:
Lovely post Thomas !
Isn't time irrelevant through, are we not living each moment now, even if we call it the past. Is just a label because Humanity needs one?
Essentially there is no history because it's still happening

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It is true that there is no time other than the mind.
However every change involves time of the past and the present.
A musical note has no meaning without the preceding note of the past and the succeeding note of the future.

today has no meaning without a memory of yesterday and an expectation of tomorrow.
A sentence has no meaning without the words that go before and after.
It is the goal of all meditators to be present in the moment without time. this is the experience when we face adangerous situation (an oncoming car) and respond without thinking, without time.
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« Reply #4 - on: 17.05.2012 at 02:28 [UT+1] »Quote from zippy on 16.05.2012 at 17:36 [UT+1]:
That is a wonderful post Thomas. I'm a Libra rising, and a Venus Sag in the third.
What do you feel changed when T Saturn crossed into your First?

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At the first Saturn Return, I had attained all my animal needs and satisfied with them, allowing me to workwith the occult and spiritual aspects of the psyche.
Through a Saturn cycle of study of the changes of the universe, there is no surprise, or unexpected changes tome in the external world of phenomena. I understand the intellectual theory of the changes andcorrespondence in the Sky and adapt with the emotional and physical and social changes according to the scriptof the Sky.
When Saturn was in the 12th house before the first, I had a similar experience or feeling of the changes during
the first Saturn Return and dropped the attachments to society norms and values, roles more and morebecause they no longer satisfy my inner needs of self esteem, the relationship of self and society.
External events are not important to me as my life is now primarily on the thoughts, the memory and plans in
the world of thoughts, which precede the world of emotions and physical behaviours and relationships.
So, when Saturn goes into the first, it is mainly in the world of thoughts and noumena, spirit, formless energy(the world of Neptune and Pluto). i have to use the knowledge of the psychologists such as Maslow and Richard
Bucke to give me confidence in this way of life. It is also well recorded in the Classics of the Buddhists andTaoists. So, it is nothing new at all for human evolution of consciousness. It was done before. Astrologer DaneRudhyar also wrote on the three cycles of Saturn development and behaviours.
Venus Sag in third.
Sag loves to teach and preach to the neighbours. As the ascendant ruler, this HAS to bedone for the Libra personality to flower and refine itself from the gross to the fine, the fine to the finer, thefiner to the finest. This is actually an Alchemical distillation process.
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« Reply #5 - on: 17.05.2012 at 15:14 [UT+1] »Quote from Thomas on 17.05.2012 at 02:11 [UT+1]:
Quote from Nikki10 on 16.05.2012 at 10:26 [UT+1]:
Lovely post Thomas !
Isn't time irrelevant through, are we not living each moment now, even if we call it the past. Is just a label because
Humanity needs one? Essentially there is no history because it's still happening

It is true that there is no time other than the mind.
However every change involves time of the past and the present.
A musical note has no meaning without the preceding note of the past and the succeeding note of the future.

today has no meaning without a memory of yesterday and an expectation of tomorrow.
A sentence has no meaning without the words that go before and after.
It is the goal of all meditators to be present in the moment without time. this is the experience when we face a dangerous situation (anoncoming car) and respond without thinking, without time.
ThomasI wouldn't say that, expectations themselves shouldn't be something that you have because they are often what
we want rather then is.
I don't think meditators want to be without time, meditation is a journey inwards, that's its main aim. Whydoes a meditator need to respond without thinking?
A musical note is a musical note on its own, it's only a symphony when you have the other notes. What if you
played all the notes of the symphony at once?
Isn't your astrology chart the sum of all your experiences , that your having right now, in whatever incarnation?
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« Reply #6 - on: 28.09.2018 at 12:10 [UT+1] »I do not know what the devil prompts me to reproduce this thread from the past.
the only excuse is that more than one person claimed to have liked it so long ago.

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