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Natasha771
MemberRosicrucians« on: 25.03.2010 at 13:43 [UT] »I've been reading some Rosicrucian books lately and they present an interesting take on esoteric science. I
know that Rosicrucians believe in Astrology but they fail to mention much about it in the books. Has anyone
taken part in a local Rosicrucian group or delved deep into its take on astrology?

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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #1 - on: 25.03.2010 at 13:54 [UT] »i met a high priest in the Rudolph Steiner movement, a man that councils leaders and even though he is a"christian" priest, he was connected to the "brotherhood." if the three magi read signs of the birth of Christ,
then the stars certainly have a message to give.
http://www.rosicrucian.com/index.html
to the right hand side of this web page you can follow links to unlock the astrological side of this group.
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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #2 - on: 25.03.2010 at 14:18 [UT] »Quote from bandit on 25.03.2010 at 13:54 [UT]:i met a high priest in the Rudolph Steiner movement, a man that councils leaders and even though he is a "christian" priest, he wasconnected to the "brotherhood." if the three magi read signs of the birth of Christ, then the stars certainly have a message to give.
http://www.rosicrucian.com/index.html
to the right hand side of this web page you can follow links to unlock the astrological side of this group.

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Gender:Hi bandit,I've seen those pages, which explain astrology nicely but they don't explain how it relates to Rosicrucians andwhy they believe in it? I read Rudolph Steiner's "Rosicrucian Wisdom" where he explained the evolution on Old
Saturn, Moon, and Sun but he did not tie it back to astrology. I guess I am mostly interested in how astrology*works* from their point of view (i.e. Why/How does the evolution of old planets affect our daily life now?)

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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #3 - on: 25.03.2010 at 14:34 [UT] »Natasha, I've always loved their astrological philosophy since I first found Max Heindel's book in the 1970's.
They encourage balance and of calmly standing above the passions that sweep through us, as when Marssquare Moon comes to our chart, so that we can realize we are not a victim of our aspeccts, "the stars do notcompel". We can decide how we handle the more difficult aspects, the transits or progressions or aggressive
Solars. We can be Master of our Stars.

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Gender:Rosicrucian means "the rosy cross", their international symbol. Their books state that God works through thestars as catalysts for us to decide how to live our lives. Astrology presents the challenges and opportunities,
and it is up to us to take advantage of them.
I especially have always embraced their philosophy of Astrology being the DIVINE SCIENCE. Their books say:
"We consider the calculation and reading of horoscopes for money a prostitution of this Divine Science. Oneof the basic conditions on which the Western Wisdom Teachings were given to Max Heindel was that no priceshould be put on them. This condition was faithfully observed by Mr. Heindel and is still adhered to. Although
the Rosicrucian Fellowship books are sold, the services of our Healing Department, the Correspondence
Courses, and the various School activities continue to be offered on a free-will love-offering basis. The
Rosicrucian Fellowship has no connection with any other organization. There are no membership dues or fees."

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Ex MemberRe: Rosicrucians« Reply #4 - on: 25.03.2010 at 18:05 [UT] »Quote from Spiral 28 on 25.03.2010 at 14:34 [UT]:Their books say: "We consider the calculation and reading of horoscopes for money a prostitution of this Divine Science. One of the basicconditions on which the Western Wisdom Teachings were given to Max Heindel was that no price should be put on them. This condition wasfaithfully observed by Mr. Heindel and is still adhered to. Although the Rosicrucian Fellowship books are sold, the services of our Healing
Department, the Correspondence Courses, and the various School activities continue to be offered on a free-will love-offering basis. TheRosicrucian Fellowship has no connection with any other organization. There are no membership dues or fees."

I like this part very much, and this is truly is the way of Yeshua--no seeking or desiring of material
compensation for help given.
Can't say that i agree fully with all the various more specific info given in these, but the above i very strongly
resonate with.
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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #5 - on: 25.03.2010 at 18:27 [UT] »Quote from Natasha771 on 25.03.2010 at 14:18 [UT]:I guess I am mostly interested in how astrology *works* from their point of view (i.e. Why/How does the evolution of old planets affectour daily life now?)

im sorry but i seem to be having problems today with understanding. have you read this?
http://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng11.htm#toc
or this? http://www.rosicrucian.com/2qa/2qaeng01.htm#toc
THE ROSICRUCIAN FELLOWSHIP have a very deep understanding of mans evolution in context with theuniverse and gods creation.
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Natasha771
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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #6 - on: 25.03.2010 at 18:39 [UT] »Quote from bandit on 25.03.2010 at 18:27 [UT]:
Quote from Natasha771 on 25.03.2010 at 14:18 [UT]:
I guess I am mostly interested in how astrology *works* from their point of view (i.e. Why/How does the evolution of oldplanets affect our daily life now?)

im sorry but i seem to be having problems today with understanding. have you read this?
http://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng11.htm#toc
or this? http://www.rosicrucian.com/2qa/2qaeng01.htm#toc
THE ROSICRUCIAN FELLOWSHIP have a very deep understanding of mans evolution in context with the universe and gods creation.

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Gender:Actually I missed the second one. I think I just need to delve deeper into these online books. The bookstore
ones don't cut it when it comes to what I'm looking for specifically. Thank you!
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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #7 - on: 25.03.2010 at 23:47 [UT] »Two of my best teachers have been Rosicrucian-trained, they shared thier knowledge freely with me, and I
found their traditional interpretations to be precise and very useful. They seemed to be able to read a chart
almost as though it were a mathematical formula, perhaps slightly too fatalistic for me at times but that is amatter of taste. As master astrologers I bow to them still.
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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #8 - on: 26.03.2010 at 00:27 [UT] »Quote from Spiral 28 on 25.03.2010 at 14:34 [UT]:
as when Mars square Moon comes to our chart, so that we can realize we are not a victim of our aspeccts,Spiral, you know I love your readings and will defend you till the last... : )I have this aspect.. it's the tightest/most exact in my chart. It's also cardinal, ... karma occurring in the here
and now...and angular. It scares me, frankly.

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Gender:Why did you pick that particular aspect? It's like you're talking to me. I'm beginning to acknowledge how
aggressive I can be..and you picked this one...why?

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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #9 - on: 26.03.2010 at 00:39 [UT] »Quote from Pallas27 on 26.03.2010 at 00:27 [UT]:
Quote from Spiral 28 on 25.03.2010 at 14:34 [UT]:
as when Mars square Moon comes to our chart, so that we can realize we are not a victim of our aspeccts,

Spiral, you know I love your readings and will defend you till the last... : )I have this aspect.. it's the tightest/most exact in my chart. It's also cardinal, ... karma occurring in the here and now...and angular. Itscares me, frankly.

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Gender:Why did you pick that particular aspect? It's like you're talking to me. I'm beginning to acknowledge how aggressive I can be..and you
picked this one...why?

nature will usually speak directly to by the words of others...
it is our job to pay attention, nod and be thankful for the lesson.
with love, daniel
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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #10 - on: 26.03.2010 at 00:59 [UT] »Quote from daniel on 26.03.2010 at 00:39 [UT]:
it is our job to pay attention, nod and be thankful for the lesson.

indeed : )I still think Spiral can teach me some more..

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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #11 - on: 26.03.2010 at 04:18 [UT] »There is an amazing number of astrology books and internet sites now, not so when I began doing charts, Max
Heindel’s Message of the Stars, Simplified Scientific, and Ephemeris’s by the Rosicrucians are how I began
studying astrology. These were recommended by an ex-communicated priest who had a mystical bookstore
near the university I attended.
I’ve recently read some of the book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, part of the thesis of the book is that Mary
Magdalene went to France and an alternative form of Christianity, spirituality springs from her and other
Gnostic thought, much of which was adverse to the traditions stemming from Rome. This in part was based in
the Prieure’ de Sion. It’s expression was in the Hermetic and esoteric thought like the Rosicrucian manifestos
and similar writings, and in certain rites of Freemasonry.
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The first mentioning of the rose cross goes back to Ormus’s (a Gnostic adept) new order of initiates inAlexandria in 46 AD. During the first century Alexandria was a hotbed of mystical thought, blending Judaic,
Zoroastrian, Pythagorean, Hermetic and neo-Platonic doctrines.
There are manuscripts stating the Rose-Croix was founded by Jean de Gisors in 1188. The rose cross symbol
was popularized on the tunic of the Knights Templar, 1188 to 1307. Among the most vocal and influential
exponents of Rosicrucian thought was Robert Fludd, who is listed as the Prieure de Sion’s sixteenth grandmaster, 1595 to 1637. Leonardo da Vinci was the grand master of the Prieure' de Sion from 1510 to 1519.
The Da Vinci Code draws extensively from these theories.
Google Max Heindel, this is the site I found http://www.rosicrucian.com/describe.htm .
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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #12 - on: 29.03.2010 at 05:31 [UT+1] »Another good Rosicrucian astrologer is Elman Bacher.
http://www.rosicrucian.com/sia/siaeng.htm

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Re: Rosicrucians« Reply #13 - on: 29.03.2010 at 11:21 [UT+1] »Mr. Heindel has some very fatalistic interpretations.
Not a to productive take on astrological counseling...
The Sun Parallel, conjunction, square or opposition to Uranus makes the person very high-strung,nervous, of uncontrolled emotions and ready to fly into hysteria on any or no provocation. It predisposes to
nervous disorders such as St. Vitus dance, epilepsy and lack of coordination. It makes people impulsive,Posts: 1331
Gender:unreliable, and lacking in regard for the conventionalities, highly impatient of any restraint upon their liberty
and committed to the theory of affinities, soul-mates and free love, hence these people are undesirable
marriage partners and likely to figure in divorce proceedings or scandals of an even worse nature. There is also
danger of trouble on account of connection with anarchistic plots where the inventive faculty may find scope in
the construction of explosives and infernal machines. Unless these aspects are modified by other configurations
such people are among the most dangerous to society. They are liable to accidents from lightening, electricity
and all through life they meet disappointment from the most unexpected quarters.
Saturn parallel, conjunction, square or opposition to Venus brings out the evil qualities of the twoplanets and troubles which are thus generated usually come through the person's relations with the opposite
sex. It makes him underhanded and scheming to gratify his passions often in an unusual manner and hisperverted desires are usually directed against some one who is much younger than himself. If regular marriage
relations are entered into, such a person is usually a demon of jealousy who makes life a burden for themarriage partner on account of his suspicious nature. People with these afflictions are also stingy in all money
matters and exceedingly avaricious. They have poor business judgment and are therefore liable to losses, failureand bankruptcy.

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