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PKea888
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Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar returns« on: 07.06.2013 at 04:44 [UT+1] »Hi,
just thought to discuss something that bugs about next few years. We all will have a cardinal JoO that willaffect everyone's chart. let's add Eg retrograde next year in the mix that will show up for at least 6 months
in our lunar returns.
What do you expect and what were your experiences with the cardinal EoO or EonJ in your lunar returns
that will become a recurrent motif for the next few years? is their effect more prominent if on the angle? please
give example if possible of what happened during these EonOJ in your lunar return charts
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mean machine

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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #1 - on: 07.06.2013 at 12:31 [UT+1] »Maybe we will get a clue this summer already with AFDC EnJoO?

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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #2 - on: 08.06.2013 at 00:58 [UT+1] »Dates to watch: Any returns between April 20-29 2014. A partile grand cross of E F O J.
Most unpleasant year I've had was one with SR featuring E n O angular with a relocated chart with natal E O
angular. I felt like an alien, had a hard time getting along with people and got a bad case of food poisoning.
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Gender:If I was a more agressive type it could have gotten really ugly and J wasn't even involved.
Maybe we could use some Valium in the water supply?

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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #3 - on: 08.06.2013 at 01:36 [UT+1] »Just went and had a look at my lunar returns for that period and they fall either side of the dates you
suggested.
What did struck me though was this LR just before
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Moon is natally in my 3rd house and rules my 5th house.

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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #4 - on: 08.06.2013 at 05:36 [UT+1] »Quote from oxymoron on 08.06.2013 at 00:58 [UT+1]:
Dates to watch: Any returns between April 20-29 2014. A partile grand cross ofE F O J.

EnO

Most unpleasant year I've had was one with SR featuring
angular with a relocated chart with natalalien, had a hard time getting along with people and got a bad case of food poisoning.
If I was a more agressive type it could have gotten really ugly andE O angular. I felt like an

J wasn't even involved.

Maybe we could use some Valium in the water supply?

thank you all for inputs
what i was thinking for anyone interested if you recollect from the past if any previous EoJO were really asdifficult?
we didn't have Ed for a few years since we had Efretro last year but the problem is of course Egretrothat will be oJ and nO
i recollect last Ed retro in 2007 but it didn't make any hard aspects to malefics
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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #5 - on: 08.06.2013 at 05:45 [UT+1] »if anyone interested take a look at your return for august 2011 when EdoOnJ and oGg aswell
one of the biggest mundane/ political events for that epriod was the arab spring and libyan revolution alongwith the thai floods
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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #6 - on: 08.06.2013 at 09:33 [UT+1] »BBBBAAAD times in my life in july and august 2011. Why you mention the lunar return? ANyway my lunar
return of july 2011 was a killer. August was no better.
I discussed the period with some astrologers a bit. They said it could not have been that "bad" cause the OoJ
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was not exact. There was an eclipse early july that boded all this hardship for me... I also had Jn prog A
which was the only heavy transit then.
To cite oxymoron: if I was a more aggressive type it could have gotten really ugly
, but in my case J wasinvolved. In august I broke a friendship with a female friend h, talk about pluto. I simply told her to --off, but
in the early summer I had been involved with some ppl that made a mess, and I don´t know for sure howmuch pluto played a role in their charts. To sum up, all these ppl lied to me and abused me and I simply
freaked out! In their minds seemingly out of the blue.
So, 2014, or this summer, I´m not afraid of. I´ve had the biggest bang in my life so far and I know for sure, if
there would be a worse one I would not have to suffer, if you see what I mean. .. One of the persons involved inthe mess, one whom I never met personally but still was very much involved in the mess and constantly
manipulatin a friend of mine (friend of friend) has sun some 14-15j. I only knew the b-day, not year. I´vebeen thinking what this could bring to HER life...But it seems I`m moving further away from these folks day byday, so I don´t care that much. The reason why these ppl still haunt me is we all spend a lot of time in thesame small village at our free time, so every now and then there are minor harassments. And since J is not
coming up to that degree until 2014 so I don´t care waiting to see that person perhaps destroyed, I´m movingon.
But yes, 2011 was probably the most unpleasant year I´ve had. I blame Jn pr. A . In my natal chart I don´thave anything cardinal so natally nothing was hit by EJO then. Mostly it was all soft aspects to natal, Ieven had EpB, maybe it rounded some corners
These days some of the ppl who were not deeply involved but lied a whole lot to me and others to keep a bombfrom blowing up, I think I see shame in their aura when I occasionally see them. And don´t ask me why they
did not want that bomb to blow - to me it then seemed they had nothing to do with the whole thing. I was notaware then they wanted perhaps to protect the Aj-person, and everybody lied to her a whole lot because
they believed it was the right thing to do.
when this happens in 2014 planets in a are inconjunct my asc-desc but pluto is trine so, thats perhaps why I
don´t fear, even my progressed chart runs free.
Looking at the JoO that last from 2012-15 it somehow helps seeing the continuity of life, and this all
happens with my midlife-crisis. Those born in early seventies will have JoO hit THEIR own JO in libra. My
J is in late f so I had the planets squaring it earlier.

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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #7 - on: 08.06.2013 at 17:11 [UT+1] »to tell the truth i don't have a problem( i think) with JoO... i actually welcome it and hope it brings thebad things down more so than destroy the good ones, or at least that's how i look at it... the real
troublemakers is usually Iand N in hard transits to anything inner or outer planets... these transits dragforever and drain every ounce of energy and life force out of anyone
re Eg retro, it just will last half a year in grand cross with F JO which makes me think it will be quite ashow
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PKea888
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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #8 - on: 08.06.2013 at 17:14 [UT+1] »i guess if someone is in the mood for the shakeup of the lifetime and a big change, it's a perfect time to do so

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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #9 - on: 11.06.2013 at 16:40 [UT+1] »The most important thing in the Lunar Return as with a Solar Return is what condition the Moon is in and theSun in a SR.

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Re: Cardinal mars square uranus pluto in lunar ret« Reply #10 - on: 11.06.2013 at 16:51 [UT+1] »Quote from Sophia R on 11.06.2013 at 16:40 [UT+1]:
The most important thing in the Lunar Return as with a Solar Return is what condition the Moon is in and the Sun in a SR.

it is a good point but other factors do have weight too.. so let's say both of my sun and moon are exalted ordebilitated , so what then.... my SR and LR will permanently be great or suckthey do seem to matter

anyway i look at other factors,

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