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Ariel1
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« on: 30.12.2012 at 09:41 [UT] »I don't have any book for progressions, so if I want to read my progressions for the year, can I just look at mytransit book, (I have the one by Robert Hand), and just act as though they are progressions?

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« Reply #1 - on: 30.12.2012 at 13:32 [UT] »In a very general way, yes. The basic symbolism of the combination remains true, but the time frame is sodifferent and the time frame of the aspect is taken into account in the interpretations written in that book. Thatis one of the best books ever written by the way. The owners of this website own the rights to it and the shortreport forecast and yearly forecast come straight out of it.
There are ways of looking at progressions that are more than "what is going to happen to me now" which is thePosts: 793
Gender:typical outlook. For example, Dayne Rudhyar gives the progressed chart the meaning of what your chart is now,or more precisely what your evolutionary path is. The progressing chart is the "path" one takes on theirevolutionary journey. But he does predicate this interpretation on the person actually consciously living theirpath, so to speak.
So the way one looks at the progressed chart matters too.

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« Reply #2 - on: 01.01.2013 at 15:53 [UT] »Ej, were you invited to interpret Ariel's chart? It seems inappropriate for you to bring it up here and post a link
to it without her asking for that kind of input and offering the chart information herself. You could have donethat in a pm.

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« Reply #3 - on: 01.01.2013 at 16:20 [UT] »Quote from 28buck on 01.01.2013 at 15:53 [UT]:
Ej, were you invited to interpret Ariel's chart? It seems inappropriate for you to bring it up here and post a link to it without her asking forthat kind of input and offering the chart information herself. You could have done that in a pm.

Or you could had sent this via PM, right?
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« Reply #4 - on: 01.01.2013 at 17:40 [UT] »Quote from 28buck on 01.01.2013 at 15:53 [UT]:
Ej, were you invited to interpret Ariel's chart? It seems inappropriate for you to bring it up here and post a link to it without her asking forthat kind of input and offering the chart information herself. You could have done that in a pm.

Since my comment offends you, buck ...I have deleted it.
Thanks for the "heads-up" re. how a comment that I believed to be "helpful" can actually be interpreted asoffensive. However ...(as a "heads-up" re potential misinterpretations of your own forum interactions)... I would
indeed have preferred this to be done via a PM from you rather than a comment on the open forum.
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« Reply #5 - on: 01.01.2013 at 17:49 [UT] »Ariel, your inquiry is a good one, as there are not many.
Almost one hundred years ago, the astrology author Alan Leo wrote a very popular book on Progressions thatwas reprinted in the late 1960's. Pluto did not exist for astrology then, but it does not Progress more than afew degrees in one lifetime anyway.

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Gender:My best one is "The Changing Sky" by Steven Forrest, "A practical Guide to Predicitive Astrology" pub. 1998
from ACS. Progressions take up most of the book, from page 121 to 247. They include when the Progressed
Ascendant or Midheaven is conjunct a planet.
The most important difference between transits and progression interpretations is that transits are the same
degree for everyone in the world. We can observe them coming to our natal placements and then moving on,
but they are not interconnected to our natal chart at all times.
Progressions are. They are extensions of our natal planets stretched into our future, still carrying the basic
energy of that planet from when we were born. Like a bloom of a flower slowly opening up, they represent
our unfolding from our basic spiral.

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« Reply #6 - on: 01.01.2013 at 22:22 [UT] »Quote from Spiral 28 on 01.01.2013 at 17:49 [UT]:
Ariel, your inquiry is a good one, as there are not many.
Almost one hundred years ago, the astrology author Alan Leo wrote a very popular book on Progressions that was reprinted in the late1960's. Pluto did not exist for astrology then, but it does not Progress more than a few degrees in one lifetime anyway.

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My best one is "The Changing Sky" by Steven Forrest, "A practical Guide to Predicitive Astrology" pub. 1998 from ACS. Progressions takeup most of the book, from page 121 to 247. They include when the Progressed Ascendant or Midheaven is conjunct a planet.
The most important difference between transits and progression interpretations is that transits are the same degree for everyone in theworld. We can observe them coming to our natal placements and then moving on, but they are not interconnected to our natal chart at alltimes.

Progressions are. They are extensions of our natal planets stretched into our future, still carrying
the basic energy of that planet from when we were born. Like a bloom of a flower slowly opening
up, they represent our unfolding from our basic spiral.

Well put. Thanks, Spiral !
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« Reply #7 - on: 01.01.2013 at 23:57 [UT] »I really like the book by Bernadette Brady "The Eagle and the Lark" on progressions et al too!
http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Predictive_Astrology.html?id=7seoYxdcmTkCAlso like the one by Steven Forrest, who is a great astrological author. Excellent points by Spiral about theunfolding of the promise shown in the natal by progression.

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« Reply #8 - on: 02.01.2013 at 05:49 [UT] »Quote from Ariel1 on 30.12.2012 at 09:41 [UT]:
I don't have any book for progressions, so if I want to read my progressions for the year, can I just look at my transit book, (I have theone by Robert Hand), and just act as though they are progressions?

If the question you are asking is "Do I NEED a specific book on progressions?", Ariel ...my answer is "No."As Spiral states at reply #5, "Like a bloom of a flower slowly opening up, progressions represent our unfolding
from our basic spiral". In effect, the natal chart is the permanent landscape which is (slowly) modified as theseasons/years/progressions expose it to the ever-changing (but constantly shaping) climate/weather/transits.
Hence, we need only to be aware that we are currently in the "sunny"/"rainy"/"windy"/"icy" season ...as the"problems and pleasures" of each season will be brought by the weather/transits, and it is at those times when
we need to be alert/prepared to respond appropriately.
To illustrate, let's consider (say) a natal chart that has Sun in Gemini/2nd qcx Saturn in Scorpio/9th ...with
Mars having progressed to (say) square Nsun and sextile Nsaturn, from Capricorn in P9th/N11th houses :We could look at our "Planets in Transit"/Specific Book on Progressions ...at the detailed interpretations givenfor Mars in 9th house; Mars in 11th house; Mars square Sun and Mars sextile Saturn... And then modify theseto take account of all signs + other houses involved, before applying that "synthesised" interpretation to thebasic meaning of the natal Sun qcx Saturn. However, most of us would find ourselves "overloaded withinformation" long before we completed that task.
And, in reality, all we need to know about this progression is that "for x years, this person's social
activity (Pmars in Capricorn/11th) will provide opportunities (via transits) to learn about (9th) theirnatal Sun/Saturn qcx issue/problem."
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« Reply #9 - on: 02.01.2013 at 06:19 [UT] »Quote from Viviene on 01.01.2013 at 23:57 [UT]:
I really like the book by Bernadette Brady "The Eagle and the Lark" on progressions et al too!
http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Predictive_Astrology.html?id=7seoYxdcmTkC
Also like the one by Steven Forrest, who is a great astrological author. Excellent points by Spiral about the unfolding of the promise shownin the natal by progression.

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I have that book, Viviene, and it is an excellent read! I also have March and McIver's The Only Way to Learn
About Tomorrow. That's another great book on Progressions and Solar Arc directions. I learned alot aboutprogressions from reading those two books.

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« Reply #10 - on: 02.01.2013 at 09:03 [UT] »I also have 'eagle and Lark' and its a great book not just for progressions but transits in general, i prefer it tothe Rob Hand book.

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« Reply #11 - on: 02.01.2013 at 20:27 [UT] »Hai I have a book from 1984 by Nancy Anne Hastings published in USA Mc Naugton@ Gunn, Ann Arbor,ML.. I
had troubLe getting trough it . But I got some good insights from it. Steven Forrest is for shore a much betterread!!
namaste Maryon

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« Reply #12 - on: 03.01.2013 at 02:08 [UT] »Quote from EJ53-2 on 01.01.2013 at 17:40 [UT]:
Quote from 28buck on 01.01.2013 at 15:53 [UT]:
Ej, were you invited to interpret Ariel's chart? It seems inappropriate for you to bring it up here and post a link to it
without her asking for that kind of input and offering the chart information herself. You could have done that in a pm.
Since my comment offends you, buck ...I have deleted it.

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sorry ej, didn't mean to make a big deal out of it.
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« Reply #13 - on: 06.01.2013 at 01:05 [UT] »Quote from 28buck on 30.12.2012 at 13:32 [UT]:
In a very general way, yes. The basic symbolism of the combination remains true, but the time frame isso different and the time frame of the aspect is taken into account in the interpretations written
in that book. That is one of the best books ever written by the way. The owners of this website own the rights
to it and the short report forecast and yearly forecast come straight out of it.
There are ways of looking at progressions that are more than "what is going to happen to me now" which is
the typical outlook. For example, Dayne Rudhyar gives the progressed chart the meaning of what your chart is now, or more precisely
what your evolutionary path is. The progressing chart is the "path" one takes on their evolutionary

journey. But he does predicate this interpretation on the person actually consciously living theirPosts: 1473
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So the way one looks at the progressed chart matters too.

my highlights.
I also has used that book mostly to get an idea of the planets, then adding something 'a lot more importanceto the descriptions of the planets (Since it is the inner planets that is mostly used in progressions, but inTransit the inner planets is speedy.)- Well I also use natal aspect books to read about the progressions so.....
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« Reply #14 - on: 06.01.2013 at 18:53 [UT] »I would recommend a book like Robert Hand's "Horoscope Symbols" to get the symbolism straight and someadvice from an expert, as much as is given there.
But then understand that progressions are fundamentally different than transits. Progressions are more about
your life playing out. They are very personal and unique to the individual time and place of birth. Transits apply
universally across the earth and are experienced by all, more like the weather.
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« Reply #15 - on: 06.01.2013 at 21:50 [UT] »I just recently became interested in secondary progressions. For some reason, I totally glossed over thispredictive technique in my 6 or so years of being actively involved in astrology, and boy, do I regret it! It's
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your birth chart. When that happens, that's like a trigger for an actual event to occur (or something alongthose lines).
I've always wondered about the timing of actual events when taking progressions and transits into account.
For example, do 2 progressed planets aspecting each other necessarily have to correspond to those same twoplanets in your natal chart that are forming aspects? Is that enough information alone to predict the timing ofan event? Or do you have to add a third layer on top of that (a transit) in order to fully determine that suchand-such event will occur?
Here's a hypothetical example: Say you have progressed Venus conjunct progressed Mars. Natally, you haveVenus conjunct Mars also. So when transiting Venus or Mars conjuncts either your progressed OR natal
Venus/Mars, something will happen (provided that both of those natal and progressed planets are in aspectcorrespondingly)? Is that how it works? Seems extremely complicated to figure out.
In any event, the two books on progressions that I recently bought are Delineation of Progressions by Sophia
Mason and The Progressed Horoscope by Alan Leo. From what I've read from others, those two books aresupposed to be the absolute best on this topic. After I study them intently, I hope to glean some more insighton this predictive technique!

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