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Steve3
Ex Membertransits: planet X on planet Y« on: 08.11.2009 at 15:40 [UT] »Someone want to share a general approach to understanding the difference between these two cases:
Transiting Planet X aspecting Natal Planet YandTransiting Planet Y aspecting Natal Planet X
Unfortunately I've been interpreting charts as though these indicate similar influences. But I know that's not
the case and would like to correct my approach to chart interpretation.
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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #1 - on: 08.11.2009 at 15:46 [UT] »actualy steve it is the case - except that the smaller, faster transit just makes it look as if it isn't. generally
unless there is something ready and available to blow up or go wrong etc....the faster planet just hasn't thetime to set something up so largely the transit can go by without any major problem.
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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #2 - on: 08.11.2009 at 15:51 [UT] »Natal positon of X can be assumed to be cause, transiting Y can said to provide a trigerring action , the place ofaction shall be in the house which Y transiting and the Result of the transit shall certainly be felt in the house
which X rules...nature of result shallbe dependent on nature of aspect which Y throws over X..and natal aspectsof X& Y
Also to check (speed ) X> (speed ) Y...because slower one have effects of longer duration ..in contrast to when
X transits over Y ( place of action shall change & result of transit shall also be seen in the house which Y rules)

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Steve3Ex Member

Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #3 - on: 08.11.2009 at 16:25 [UT] »Quote from Arihant on 08.11.2009 at 15:51 [UT]:Natal positon of X can be assumed to be cause, transiting Y can said to provide a trigerring action , the place of action shall bein the house which Y transiting and the Result of the transit shall certainly be felt in the house which X rules...nature of result
shallbe dependent on nature of aspect which Y throws over X..and natal aspects of X& Y
Also to check (speed ) X> (speed ) Y...because slower one have effects of longer duration ..in contrast to when X transits over Y ( place ofaction shall change & result of transit shall also be seen in the house which Y rules)

So let me make sure I understand what you are saying:
if tY is in the 5th and trine with nX in the 9th, the place of action which sets the effects of the influence inmotion is the 5th but it will have an effect within the house which X rules.
what about the house in which nX resides?
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Steve3
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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #4 - on: 08.11.2009 at 16:34 [UT] »Quote from Cybele on 08.11.2009 at 15:46 [UT]:
actualy steve it is the case - except that the smaller, faster transit just makes it look as if it isn't. generally unless there is something
ready and available to blow up or go wrong etc....the faster planet just hasn't the time to set something up so largely the transit can goby without any major problem.

Yes, the relative speeds will change the effect. I guess I do consider this when reading charts. And it's soapparent to me since my t J o nB is a looooooong drawn out thing while I hardly pay any attemtion to themore frequent t B o nJ events. Thanks.

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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #5 - on: 08.11.2009 at 16:38 [UT] »Quote from Steve3 on 08.11.2009 at 16:25 [UT]:

what about the house in which nX resides?

Action won't be there in THAT house....unless Conj transit is there
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Moreover tY is not trining cusp of nX residence
But characteristic properties of X shall be enhanced/felt by native!
..(in my opinion)

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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #6 - on: 11.11.2009 at 08:37 [UT] »You can think of the conjunction as 0 degrees and the transiting planet's effects are like a moon cycle that waxand wanes/ applies and separates and the first square etc will be a different energy to the second square in the360 cycle
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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #7 - on: 11.11.2009 at 11:13 [UT] »Hi Steve and all,In my very humble opinion there is a difference in effect of one planet upon another as a result of the function
which is attributed to each. But who ever looks at daily transits of the fast planets to test their worth?
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Gender:Mercury conjunct Venus or Mars will not be the same as Mars and Venus conjunct Mercury.....apart from thefact that the natal planet is probably in another sign anyway. In Steve's example, the effect of a transiting
Moon upon Pluto will last for a maximum of 6-7 hours (approx. 1 degree motion per 2 hours) whilst Pluto toMoon (my son undergoing the same, Steve) can take 18 months and more.
As a working example, I shall always remember the effect of a transiting Moon upon my 11th house (opposite
5th of children!) Mars-North Node in Cancer. Other transits were also at work and this particular year myeldest daughter was not joining us and for the first time was going on holiday alone with her boyfriend (theyhad accompanied us the previous year). It meant she would be at home alone for a few days before they setoff. The evening before we left, this feeling of dread came over me. I couldn't possibly leave her and wasprepared to cancel the holiday there and then! As I was into astrology I checked the ephemeris and saw what
transiting Moon was up to....exactly within orb to NN and, thus, oppsing SN in Capricorn 5th. I told myself togive myself another 4 hours to calm down, after which the conjunction would be out of orb and over. True toform I calmed down. We left as planned.
A few weeks back I had the 18 month transit of Mars (ruler 8th) to natal Pluto(major co-ruler 3rd), also in 11th(opposite 5th). Last year saw a bad and dangerous bacterial infection(Mars ruled) occur after falling off my bike.
This year coincided with having to pick up my daughters in heavy fog from the airport 55 miles away. I wasdead scared, yet HAD to do it. Found that Mars courage to overcome the fear. Maybe I have finally masteredand taken control of my own Mars, rather than be effected by it?
I shall not experience a conjunction from tr. Pluto to Mars in my lifetime whilst many others will which, to mymind, suggests that there MUST be a difference in meaning and circumstance from transits between planets toeach other.
Friesiangal

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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #8 - on: 11.11.2009 at 12:40 [UT] »I think transits are the triggers that sets of the natal condition. Timers to natal configurations. Planets are also
other peoples influences...real people you meet with the energy thats significant to the transiting planet.
Bibbe
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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #9 - on: 11.11.2009 at 22:15 [UT] »Quote from bibbe on 11.11.2009 at 12:40 [UT]:
I think transits are the triggers that sets of the natal condition. Timers to natal configurations. Planets are also other peoples
influences...real people you meet with the energy thats significant to the transiting planet.
Bibbe

Bibbe, your statement aligns perfectly with the X/Y transits I have to share.
When Saturn transited N-Pluto in 2008 I suffered great restrictions in my relationships with both friends andco-workers. The "real people" in my life were not reflecting my ideal self. I felt that I was called by theserestrictions, to a new sense of purpose and self identity through that "calling", which was N-Pluto requiring lifechanges, especially in relation to my career identity, with Pluto in the 10th.
T-Saturn triggered N-Pluto's sextile to my Sun and Neptune ... and there began an eventful journey of selfdiscovery and new visions of the future.
In the meantime, T-Pluto has been evolving to and from N-Saturn, and is now about to conjunct. The long
ingress during the past year and a half has called into question all that I discipline myself to (N-Saturn), myvalues and prioreties (in 2nd house), and the re-adjustment of the energies involved in a Grand Cross with NSaturn (the Sun, Moon, Nodes). This re-adjustment satisfies T-Pluto's "urge to purge" the dross, and alignmyself in a better way to a soulful purpose, that is much greater than N-Pluto's 10th house requirements. Therelationships that I shed during the Saturn transit have been replaced with much more sustaining ones, and therelationships I kept during that transit have become more profound during the Pluto transit.
So, Steve,In the first case X brought discipline to Y's intentions;
In the second case Y brings intention to re-disciplining X
It sounds very similar, but as mentioned above, the faster moving Saturn transit (X) merely pointed the finger
at Plutonian issues (Y).
ways.

The Pluto transit (Y) is investigating Saturn's role (X) in my chart in much deeper

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Friesiangal
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Re: transits: planet X on planet Y« Reply #10 - on: 13.11.2009 at 09:25 [UT] »Quote:[quote author=*moira* ]Quote:[quote author=bibbe date=1257943239]
I think transits are the triggers that sets of the natal condition. Timers to natal configurations. Planets are also otherPosts: 6820
Gender:peoples influences...real people you meet with the energy thats significant to the transiting planet.
Bibbe, your statement aligns perfectly with the X/Y transits I have to share.
When Saturn transited N-Pluto in 2008 I suffered great restrictions in my relationships with both friends and co-workers. The "real people"
in my life were not reflecting my ideal self. I felt that I was called by these restrictions, to a new sense of purpose and self identity
through that "calling", which was N-Pluto requiring life changes...........
T-Saturn triggered N-Pluto's sextile to .....Neptune and there began an eventful journey of self-discovery and new visions of the future.

Just want to say that this exactly describes my son's predicament. A BfmJg in 7th, he has been through a
traumatic divorce from his Ag wife, who 'ruled the roost' so to speak. He lived in her shadow, wasbrainwashed to her way of thinking without realising it. They ran a business together in her name.
As a result of the divorce, he had to decide what he wanted to do with the rest of his life. Has always been
attracted to the helping profession (ImMC) and decided to train to become a First Aid Instructor (GnI). In
spite of difficult periods of absolute desolation, he found the willpower to study, along with going through thedivorce, bringing up the children in co-parentship and partly run his share of the business. We have graduallyseen him 'shed the skin' that lived for and through another (g) and do that which he wants to do alongside ofanother.
Tr. GmJ was exact (tr.JoJ) last weekend when he took he final practical exam. After 3 failures, he camethrough and passed.
Although not a conjunction he went through the tr.JsG during the same period, that is now out of orb. Hehas attained a maturity that he never had before as he has learnt to stand on his own two feet.
Quote:*Moira*So, Steve,In the first case X brought discipline to Y's intentions;
In the second case Y brings intention to re-disciplining X
It sounds very similar, but as mentioned above, the faster moving Saturn transit (X) merely pointed the finger at Plutonian issues (Y). The
Pluto transit (Y) is investigating Saturn's role (X) in my chart in much deeper ways.

I believe my son would say exactly the same.
Friesiangal

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