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erisleeEx Member

Industrial Music« on: 22.07.2010 at 01:06 [UT+1] »I'm curious about the Astrological influences that could be related to the evolution of music genre, and more
specifically for the post, influences related to the birth of what's considered "Industrial" music.
Wikipedia defines industrial music as "a style of experimental music that draws on transgressive andprovocative themes" The term was coined in the mid-1970s
AllMusic.com http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:141~T00 writes "The mostabrasive and aggressive fusion of rock and electronic music, industrial was initially a blend of avantgarde electronics experiments and punk provocation. Industrial's trademark sound was harsh andmenacing, but its rage was subordinate to the intentionally mechanical, numbingly repetitive
qualities of the music, which fit the lyrics' themes of alienation and dehumanization quite well.
I can imagine this is not an easy subject matter to merely pin down Astrologically, as Music continues to evolvewith everything else in creation, but I'd appreciate any thoughts on what particular Astrological influences you'dassociate with the provocative and very taboo styles expressed through such Musical genres termed Industrial,Underground, Punk, Death, Gothic...basically subgenres branching from heavy metal and basically arising in the
mid-late 70's but really kicking off in the early 80's. Some artists I have in mind as examples are:
The Misfits, Nine Inch Nails, Type O Negative, Metallica, Danzig, Ministry, System of a down, Rammstein, Front
242, and so on. However, all seemingly share a similar underlying theme...N?
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Re: Industrial Music« Reply #1 - on: 22.07.2010 at 01:39 [UT+1] »Mid to late 70s Pluto left Virgo and moved into Libra. I was just coming into adulthood and independence.
There was a vague sense of aimlessness to us because the 60s were dying, the economy was bad, and yeah, weneeded stimulus ...
Tool is another one and oh yes Type O Neg. et al. ...
I do see a Pluto Chiron theme. Maybe even a little Neptune. Very pain driven music, yes very dark and taboo.
The lyrics cover some very Plutonian themes. The inability to heal N and Neptunian strangely aspected giving
twists to fantasy. Personal planets influencing would depend on the song. A lot of OJf got the music goingin that direction as well.
I am smiling with fond memories.
Very cool thread...
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Re: Industrial Music« Reply #2 - on: 22.07.2010 at 11:38 [UT+1] »Quote from erislee on 22.07.2010 at 01:06 [UT+1]:
I'm curious about the Astrological influences that could be related to the evolution of music genre, and more specifically for the post,
influences related to the birth of what's considered "Industrial" music.
Wikipedia defines industrial music as "a style of experimental music that draws on transgressive and provocative themes" Theterm was coined in the mid-1970s

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AllMusic.com http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:141~T00 writes "The most abrasive and aggressive
fusion of rock and electronic music, industrial was initially a blend of avant-garde electronics experiments and punkprovocation. Industrial's trademark sound was harsh and menacing, but its rage was subordinate to the intentionallymechanical, numbingly repetitive qualities of the music, which fit the lyrics' themes of alienation and dehumanization quite
well.
I can imagine this is not an easy subject matter to merely pin down Astrologically, as Music continues to evolve with everything else increation, but I'd appreciate any thoughts on what particular Astrological influences you'd associate with the provocative and very taboostyles expressed through such Musical genres termed Industrial, Underground, Punk, Death, Gothic...basically subgenres branching fromheavy metal and basically arising in the mid-late 70's but really kicking off in the early 80's. Some artists I have in mind as examples
are:
The Misfits, Nine Inch Nails, Type O Negative, Metallica, Danzig, Ministry, System of a down, Rammstein, Front 242, and so on. However,all seemingly share a similar underlying theme... ?

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Re: Industrial Music« Reply #3 - on: 22.07.2010 at 15:43 [UT+1] »I actually just love music with all my heart, and have collected just about every genre and type you can think
throughout life. I go through phases where I mostly listen to certain types of music and then won't feel like
listening to that music for years. I decided to go back and look at my music phases in light to longer periodtransits to see any patterns.

Industrial music was the very first music style I was drawn to. I simply loved this type of music...the sounds,
provocative content and found it very mind opening and seemed to help me bring up deep buried painfulemotions (which I was then able to resolve later on). I was around 11 yrs old and I had transit J in h m O okB o e G in my 7th house, as well as transit I crossing my j asc. and O was o my 3rd lAmC from my12th house---I strongly began rebelling against just about everything, and this music just resonated andassured me that I was not the only one who felt and thought the rather indendpent way in which I did.
What's ironic is I have not been listening to my industrial underground collection in years, yet I have beendrawn back towards this type of music lately. I have really been listening back to Type O Negative, and it has
been years since I have heard them. Ironically, I have never stopped listening to Tool for some reason, I justnever get tired of them (I've had the hots for Maynard since I was 12, lol)
What's new though is that I have been strongly driven to begin playing the bass guitar lately. Peter Steele RIP(he had most of his personal planets in j) seemed to inspire that desire out of me. I'm doing my own versionof songs like "Everything Dies" and "Black no. 1" I'm inclined to say this may be coming from the energy I feelwith transit J slowly coming up on my j Asc, along with IN going back over my E at the end of k. Now
back when I had I m my kB I was listening to more calm and peaceful melodies like Enya and Mortal Coil,but for now it's back to the angry, anti-christianity and government themes (again seems to help bring up/outdeepest wounds for resolve)
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Re: Industrial Music« Reply #4 - on: 24.07.2010 at 04:08 [UT+1] »This interests me, only because Industrial and Ambient/Electronica music have a lot in common as far as
progressiveness is concerned.
I listen to a lot of industrial music...following closely behind dark ambient/electronica for me at least. Steve
Roach, Vangelis, Boards of Canada, Meat Beat Manifesto (who interestingly enough, Trent Reznor signed to thelabel himself), Enduser, etc.
The term industrial may have been coined in the 70's but I find traces of industrial/ambient sounds in earlyorchestra works, such as industrial/thrash metal in Sergei Prokofiev's: Alexander Nevsky "Battle on Ice". And
ambient in Gustav Holst's Planets Series. It is a matter of opinion but I believe there are orchestral works thathave covered every single genre, sound of music there is out today (Dub, Hip-Hop, Rock, Metal, Industrial, etc).
Most of these sounds were covered by the more progressive composers (ie. the not so popular ones back intheir hayday). The real geniuses never get much attention when they're alive.

OIJ Aspects to personal planets would show an interest in these particular genres I would believe.
Ambient can be dark and scary as well which most people do not seem to know.
Steve Roach happens to have an album called Midnight Moon . The darkest, most painful album I have everlistened to...it'll bring out every wound you have, and expose the vulnerability. The album in my opinion is theequivalent of human purging of the nasty vile that lives within us all. You'll feel like you are trapped in the mostvile of Salvador Dali paintings. Once listened to, most go running back to the Enya stuff. The rest stay to enjoy
the soundscape of a geniuses artwork.
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Re: Industrial Music« Reply #5 - on: 25.07.2010 at 10:13 [UT+1] »Glad to see someone recognizes the correlation between symphonic music and what we listen to now. I waslistening to a classical piece many years ago, and realized the musical progressions were nearly exact to someLed Zep songs. I then started listening more closely for the similarities.
Interesting you mention Vangelis, Alpha is one of those that pulls at me. There is some Tangerine Dream that I
absolutely love also. I will have to look into Steve Roach. Thanx Darker Star.
I fear not the Darkness, it is a comfort and release for me...
There is planetary correlations to musical notes.
Play it in D Minor.
OeIhJf are heavily aspected in my chart. I was always attracted to music that had a darker side.
Symphonic can take you from the dewy fields of heather right into the darkest depths of the soul. And music
will hopefully grow and continue to reach into the soul and pull on its strings.
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