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etherea
MemberQuintile transits« on: 15.12.2016 at 20:02 [UT] »Pluto currently quintiles my Moon by transit, and I have observed many deep but hitherto unrecognised
emotional patterns in my self, which is fantastically liberating.
It has felt like "mining the blind spot" and has been a total Wow
I am fascinated by the quintile aspect (I have one between Mars and Neptune in natal chart) but am notconvinced by the common understanding that they are predominantly about creativity.

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I think they CAN be about that, but not exclusively, and I would be interested to hear other members'
experiences with quintiles, both by aspect and transit (including progressed).

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #1 - on: 16.12.2016 at 17:39 [UT] »I think of the quintile as bestowing an ability for the mind/intellect to make connections between things that(to others) do not appear to be connected......rather than as an indicator of creativity. (However, the making of
those connections might then lead the person to create something new.)
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etherea
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #2 - on: 16.12.2016 at 21:31 [UT] »That's a great way of seeing it, EJ.
I have found the mars/neptune thing to be much more indicative of bringing (to me) important spiritualteachers than of creativity - although I do confess the creative component of that is only now coming to thefore.
Do you have any quintiles in your natal or prog chart? If so, how have you experienced them?

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #3 - on: 17.12.2016 at 07:52 [UT] »Quote from etherea on 16.12.2016 at 21:31 [UT]:...Do you have any quintiles in your natal or prog chart?...

I have no natal quintiles, but do have a semi-quintile from Venus in Libra/1st to "Sun conjunct Chiron" in
Scorpio/3rd. ... And, I currently have Progressed Chiron (in Sagittarius/natal 3rd) quintile Progressed Mercury(in Aquarius/natal 5th) - with the latter being sextile transit Saturn, and currently making a 3-degree-orb
applying trine to my natal Venus.
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If so, how have you experienced them?

My natal Sun-conjunct-Chiron makes me suspicious of the motives of others. ... My natal Venus looks for thebest in others. ... The semi-quintile (10th harmonic) aspect scrutinises the actions of others, to determine (notalways correctly) whether or not their motives are acceptable (to me/my values).
Hence, when transit Saturn conjoined my natal Venus, I was actively considering whether to leave or remain
with my employer - and decided to go, because I concluded that he could not be trusted. ...
Then, when that transit subsequently conjoined my natal Sun-Chiron conjunction, my (new) employer did
something which left me in no doubt that he could be trusted. ...
And, with the benefit of hindsight, I now know that my "Venus semi-quintile Sun/Chiron" correctly connectedthe-dots relating to both of those employers.
_________________________________________[Note : With regard to my current "progressed Chiron quintile progressed Mercury" and its activation by transit
Saturn, I suspect that is what prompted me to respond to this thread topic - particularly as it appeared just as
transit Mars (in Aquarius/natal 5th) began squaring my natal Sun-Chiron conjunction.]
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arunachala
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #4 - on: 17.12.2016 at 11:29 [UT] »Basically agree with EJ53's take on this and would suggest that the original connections are made as thequintile represents an area of life where the mind and emotions work in harness lacking separation between
them.

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Linda Harris

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #5 - on: 17.12.2016 at 16:39 [UT] »You know, I have never studied my Quintile transits. I would assume the most powerful ones would be from anouter planet to a personal planet. IF that outer planet retrogrades within the Quintile aspect I would think thiswould be very significant.
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Now that I'm thinking of this I have to go back to a couple of times in my life when significant changes
happened that included something artistic or creative. Because now I'm curious. Thanks,
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #6 - on: 17.12.2016 at 20:44 [UT] »I have a 0 aspecting quintile to my moon and my Sun; I have never understood what it represents.

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #7 - on: 17.12.2016 at 22:12 [UT] »Quote from EJ53_2 on 17.12.2016 at 07:52 [UT]:
Quote from etherea on 16.12.2016 at 21:31 [UT]:...Do you have any quintiles in your natal or prog chart?...
I have no natal quintiles, but do have a semi-quintile from Venus in Libra/1st to "Sun conjunct Chiron" in Scorpio/3rd. ... And, I currently
have Progressed Chiron (in Sagittarius/natal 3rd) quintile Progressed Mercury (in Aquarius/natal 5th) - with the latter being sextile transit
Saturn, and currently making a 3-degree-orb applying trine to my natal Venus.
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If so, how have you experienced them?

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My natal Sun-conjunct-Chiron makes me suspicious of the motives of others. ... My natal Venus looks for the best in others. ... The semiquintile (10th harmonic) aspect scrutinises the actions of others, to determine (not always correctly) whether or not their motives are
acceptable (to me/my values).
Hence, when transit Saturn conjoined my natal Venus, I was actively considering whether to leave or remain with my employer - anddecided to go, because I concluded that he could not be trusted. ...
Then, when that transit subsequently conjoined my natal Sun-Chiron conjunction, my (new) employer did something which left me in no
doubt that he could be trusted. ...
And, with the benefit of hindsight, I now know that my "Venus semi-quintile Sun/Chiron" correctly connected-the-dots relating to both of
those employers.
_________________________________________[Note : With regard to my current "progressed Chiron quintile progressed Mercury" and its activation by transit Saturn, I suspect that iswhat prompted me to respond to this thread topic - particularly as it appeared just as transit Mars (in Aquarius/natal 5th) began squaring
my natal Sun-Chiron conjunction.]

Great post, EJ and thank you. Synchronous ref. the latter note
There isn't very much written on this aspect
pattern that I can find, so it remains in the realm of slightly mysterious. Your post shed practical light.
I have two quintiles, as mentioned above - chiron to Asc, and mars to Neptune (which is part of a stellium
comprising NN and Jupiter, so I suppose I must include this in the pattern).
Since very earliest childhood, I have been driven to seek and find spiritual answers. Other than this quintile
pattern, my mars is unaspected, so this has provided the funnel for a lot of energy. I have read that thisquintile exchange between mars/nep lends ability to visualise, which I have always found easy.
When transiting Pluto went over Neptune and quintiled my mars, it was the threshold of intense (and, I
suppose, more formal) spiritual work and study -seemingly quite by "accident" - but which felt profoundly"right", as though it were the nexus of circles within circles, wheels within wheels, all conjuncting in the rightplace at the right time.
Ref. the chiron/Asc, people often tell me they think I am a healer - and indeed this is an area of work in which I
have been much involved. But of course, this also involves healing oneself- and indeed, uncovering oneself(which is where astrology is so very useful) ad infinitum, in order to be of any use to others. To do this, onemust no longer see oneself as a completed identity. The concept of oneself stemming from Asc has to be
stripped bare, regularly, in order to be re-considered. This is how I think this quintile is playing out in mychart.
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etherea
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #8 - on: 17.12.2016 at 22:16 [UT] »Quote from Linda Harris on 17.12.2016 at 16:39 [UT]:
You know, I have never studied my Quintile transits. I would assume the most powerful ones would be from an outer planet to a personalplanet. IF that outer planet retrogrades within the Quintile aspect I would think this would be very significant.
Now that I'm thinking of this I have to go back to a couple of times in my life when significant changes happened that included somethingartistic or creative. Because now I'm curious. Thanks,
LainieI think I would agree with that, Linda, and also include angles as being very important (transits, progressed
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transits and natal).

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etherea

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #9 - on: 17.12.2016 at 22:19 [UT] »Quote from alice b on 17.12.2016 at 20:44 [UT]:
I have a 0 aspecting quintile to my moon and my Sun; I have never understood what it represents.

Creative use of what you learned from family conditions?

An ease of self-understanding and how your innerworkings can be utilised for your purposes? Dynamic interchange of your basic male/female principles?

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Friesiangal
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #10 - on: 18.12.2016 at 10:51 [UT] »Quote from etherea on 15.12.2016 at 20:02 [UT]:Pluto currently quintiles my Moon by transit, and I have observed many deep but hitherto unrecognised emotional patterns in myself, which is fantastically liberating.
It has felt like "mining the blind spot" and has been a total Wow

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Gender:I am fascinated by the quintile aspect (I have one between Mars and Neptune in natal chart) but am not convinced by the common
understanding that they are predominantly about creativity.
I think they CAN be about that, but not exclusively, and I would be interested to hear other members' experiences with quintiles, both by
aspect and transit (including progressed).

Would a transiting quintile aspect between Pluto to Moon be strong enough to induce such a profound 'inner
effect'?
Reading your words, I would look also at any effect that transiting MEAN BML in Scorpio (hidden) withtransiting TRUE BML in Sagittarius (recognition?) are having upon natal chart configurations, and/or aspects totheir own natal positions, in allowing and admitting long oppressed situations to finally surface.
All in context with other major progressions and transits, of course.

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etherea

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #11 - on: 18.12.2016 at 13:20 [UT] »Nothing that I can identify, other than that quintile, Friesiangal. Pluto is also quintiling natal neptune, Jupiter,
NN, so is in a pretty powerful position (virtually at the midpoint between moon and these other characters).
Because these issues apparently stemmed from early childhood, I would say the Moon is definitely part of that,the more so as she is in natal aspect to Pluto (uncomfortably), necessitating inner work.
I have gone through many, many Pluto transits, and I have to say, what has been transpiring of late definitely
bears his stamp from previous experience. Two major red letter days in this regard last week, so short, sharp,
far-reaching, liberating. Further, some of the key players in the early scenarios have recently died, which again
whispers the name "pluto" in my inner ear.
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Interestingly though, and to support what you have written, Pluto WILL aspect (quintile, again) one of those
Liliths in my chart over the next couple of years, but isn't there yet.
I suspect a lot of "minor" aspects are not really that minor, and can certainly be heightened with outer planet
activity or sensitive chart placements, or at least, make them sit squarely in our field of awareness when they
are highlighted.
Any quintiles in your own chart, Friesiangal?

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Global Moderator« Reply #12 - on: 18.12.2016 at 13:36 [UT] »Astrodienst Staff
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As you may know, Astrodienst has among its many free charts also a Transit Calendar, in variants.
See screen shot for the selection under 'special charts', below.
There is a special URL trick to make this Transit Calendar showing only Quintile and BiQuintile transits.
It is a complicated manipulation, not for the shy ones.
The URL for making a transit calendar is never shown, therefore you have to start at a natal chart.
Please run and display a natal chart. Look at the URL line which will look like this:.....astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&btyp=2&mth=at&sday=18&smon=12&s
yr=2016&hsy=-1&zodiac=trop&ayanam=0&helgeo=geo&rs=0&orbp=&ast=

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You have to modify this URL in the browser's URL field: remove everythign behind syr=2016 (which is the startyear)......astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&btyp=2&mth=at&sday=18&smon=12&
syr=2016
Now remove mth=&sday=......astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&btyp=2&smon=12&syr=2016
Now change btyp=2 into btyp=d41m.....astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&btyp=d41m&smon=12&syr=2016
Which will give a transit calendar for 3 years, staring at smon=12 (December) ans syr=2016 (year 2016). You
can select other start month and year, by modifying smon and syr.
To get Quintiles, you must append this code: &stx2=a=3072 (this removes the other transit aspects)
You can and should do all modifications, in a single process, before hitting the ENTER key.
The complete URL now is:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&btyp=d41m&;smon=12&syr=2016&stx2=a=3072
If you want all transit planets included, please select btyp=d43 which will only be for six months.

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etherea

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #13 - on: 18.12.2016 at 16:27 [UT] »Wow! Thank you so much, Alois!

This looks like fun

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #14 - on: 18.12.2016 at 17:44 [UT] »Using the reply 12 trick (thanks for this, Alois) - I now see that transit Uranus made a bi-quintile aspect* to mynatal "Sun-Chiron conjunction" from April to June 2016 and from September to early-December 2016 (Rx) with the third pass happening from mid-January to early-April 2017.
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etherea

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #15 - on: 18.12.2016 at 19:16 [UT] »Quote from EJ53_2 on 18.12.2016 at 17:44 [UT]:Using the reply 12 trick (thanks for this, Alois) - I now see that transit Uranus made a bi-quintile aspect* to my natal "Sun-Chiron
conjunction" from April to June 2016 and from September to early-December 2016 (Rx) - with the third pass happening from mid-January
to early-April 2017.
[Note* : And thus, opposed natal Venus (which is semi-quintile my natal "Sun-Chiron conjunction".]Posts: 5306

Isn't it wonderful? Makes everything so clear, and I can look forward to registering what is going on with thisharmonic as these aspects arise.
I would have missed two other upcoming quintile transits entirely, without this calendar.
EJ, has anything occurred or arisen with you that you could say stems from this biQuintile from Uranus to yoursun/chiron conjunction?

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #16 - on: 18.12.2016 at 23:45 [UT] »Quote from etherea on 18.12.2016 at 19:16 [UT]:
EJ, has anything occurred or arisen with you that you could say stems from this biQuintile from Uranus to your sun/chiron conjunction?

Transit Uranus in Aries/7th symbolises a close friend of my wife and I, who long ago passed my "natal Venus
semi-quintile Sun/Chiron" scrutinisation of trustworthiness.
During the first transit pass, my Sun/Chiron had noticed physical symptoms of arthritis in her - but I said
nothing, as my Venus in Libra/1st wanted to believe all was well....
...During the recent (retrograde) pass, she informed us that she had indeed been diagnosed with rheumatoid
arthritis. But, as that pass ended, she had begun a course of medication that was relieving the pain
considerably....
The condition is permanent......but we are hoping the the final transit pass will confirm she will be able toremain on the pain-relieving medication for the rest of her life (as there are potential side effects which might
prevent that.)
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #17 - on: 19.12.2016 at 09:50 [UT] »Quote from etherea on 18.12.2016 at 13:20 [UT]:
I suspect a lot of "minor" aspects are not really that minor, and can certainly be heightened with outer planet activity or sensitive chart
placements, or at least, make them sit squarely in our field of awareness when they are highlighted.

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Gender:Any quintiles in your own chart, Friesiangal?

I did it the easy way and calculated mentally.
There's a FQO that I didn't know about,

BBQF,
CrBQI,
that I did.
There are no transiting Q's and BQ's effecting my chart.
A relevant personal thought issue is that I still consider myself very Saturnal of nature. With square aspects toall planetary functions bar Moon in Capricorn, plus a strong natal 5th-9th house signature to Ascendant inEarth, I still consider myself to be too Earthbound for any outer planet influence to be working within me. So I
can't personally say whether the natal/transiting Q and BQ from them are 'creatively effective' FOR me. Others
make comments that could relate to their tendencies, yet which I don't see as such.
I've reached an age when all solar arc direction planets are now in Quintile aspect to their natal positions, so
there may still be hope.
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #18 - on: 19.12.2016 at 12:10 [UT] »Well, if your creativity goes off the scale, then we'll all be sure it really is about creativity
But an interesting way to find out what really it is all about, with the solar arc activity like that!

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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #19 - on: 19.12.2016 at 14:20 [UT] »Quote from etherea on 19.12.2016 at 12:10 [UT]:......an interesting way to find out what really it is all about, with the solar arc activity like that!

My Solar Arc semi-quintile 36th-birthday chart was in November 1984 - So, "within-one-degree-orb" from
November 1983 to November 1985.
I started a new job in October 1983 (with a UK County Council) and, by November 1985, had developed myown unique/personal approach to it - which was radically different to the way things had been done before (inany UK Local Authority). ... That turned out to be the pinnacle of my career creativity - and was a methodology
for producing conclusions rationally/mindfully/deliberately, in a line of (investigatory) work which had previously
relied upon intuition to "get results". ... Hence, even that 3-year period of "semi-quintile intensity" was (for me)
about seeing the connection between things that seem to not be connected.
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etherea
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Re: Quintile transits« Reply #20 - on: 19.12.2016 at 15:21 [UT] »Certainly sounds like innovative activity, EJ.
Thinking back to when I was 36, I remember getting fired for "knowing where the bodies were buried" (anddaring to voice that), took successful legal action and with the payout, studied for six more years which formed
the basis of what I have been doing for a while now.
Except at the time, I didn't know this was going to be work - I signed up for something that was intended to beleisure which then became used for work, so I suppose it could be said that I also connected things that were
up to that point not connected.
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