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Natasha771
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« on: 30.06.2009 at 18:32 [UT+1] »I was thinking today about the f/l axis of work/overwork/health and self sacrifice/self undoing and got tothinking the the key to balancing this axis is balancing the self with the other/the world's needs. This is veryl/a the next sign's axis
I wonder if this applies to all of the signs? Can each learn from the next and how?

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« Reply #1 - on: 01.07.2009 at 12:45 [UT+1] »Fascinating topic. I think immediately of the differences of the signs. The opposite signs, 180 degrees apart,are less different than the neighboring signs. Taurus is so massively different from Aries and Geminii, but it
shares much with Scorpio and is a fairly good blend with Scorpio.
I believe the opposing sign is the best place to start when learning from other signs.
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« Reply #2 - on: 01.07.2009 at 14:36 [UT+1] »OMG I was about to ask this question myself!
Susan Miller, who happens to be the creator of astrologyzone.com, mentioned something about this in her

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book Planets and Possibilities. At the time I didn't have the time to do the research, but she mentioned howeach sign completes something of the sign preceding it. The closest I could come to this is considering the h-i-j "sequence." h as the detectives seek out the lie, i as the 'judge' comes along and deems it either truly
a lie or not, then j [re]inforces what the result(s).
That is as close as I can get to this; I am hoping to learn more as time goes on, even if the above-mentioned issomewhat on point.
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« Reply #3 - on: 01.07.2009 at 14:46 [UT+1] »Quote from Stephen Baxter on 01.07.2009 at 12:45 [UT+1]:
Fascinating topic. I think immediately of the differences of the signs. The opposite signs, 180 degrees apart, are less different than theneighboring signs. Taurus is so massively different from Aries and Geminii, but it shares much with Scorpio and is a fairly good blend with
Scorpio.

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I believe the opposing sign is the best place to start when learning from other signs.

That is practically my new topic to learn in my Astro-studies. I would really like to know how the e-k polarity
works out. I can tell you that as a i, c teaches us to not focus so much on the big-picture as we are (or canbe) very 'magnified' in thought (at least I am). In other words, I 'magnify' everything, making it bigger than it
really is. On that note, c teaches us (or me) to look at perhaps what surrounds or leads up to that magnified
image, whereas we teach them to not focus so much on the details, to the point where they miss the bigpicture. It is a polarity of "can't see the trees for the forest" versus "can't see the forest for the trees" kind ofthing.
Outside of the above, we have alot in common. Then again, I should speak for myself seeing as how I have a istellium in the 3rd House naturally ruled by Gemini. One of the things I notice we have in common is we are
great conversationalists, move around very, very much, and definitely love sports. On that note, I will close byreminding those who don't know there are two different types of i s: those who enjoy studies, and those who
enjoy sports. You will rarely ever find any who have a balance of both. No one is a balance of student andathlete; each one is either more of one or the other.
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Natasha771
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« Reply #4 - on: 01.07.2009 at 21:43 [UT+1] »Quote from Kwabena on 01.07.2009 at 14:36 [UT+1]:
OMG I was about to ask this question myself!
Susan Miller, who happens to be the creator of astrologyzone.com, mentioned something about this in her book Planets and Possibilities. At
the time I didn't have the time to do the research, but she mentioned how each sign completes something of the sign preceding it. The
closest I could come to this is considering the- "sequence."
as the detectives seek out the lie,
as the 'judge' comes alongand deems it either truly a lie or not, then[re]inforces what the result(s).

hij

h

i

j

That is as close as I can get to this; I am hoping to learn more as time goes on, even if the above-mentioned is somewhat on point.
KWABENA

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Gender:iGreat point. I wonder what other parts of life this sequence could be applied to. Maybe we could also say hprotects itself so that it is set up to thrive, then i is the catapult that prompts the person to expand and getout into the world, then j grounds the person to follow through for success.
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« Reply #5 - on: 01.07.2009 at 22:02 [UT+1] »d and e could learn from one another. To the extent that I understand either, I'll say that when it comes toself-assurance and selling oneself, e could teach d. When it comes to self-awareness and development, dcould teach e.
...stereotypically speaking of course.
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Kwabena
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« Reply #6 - on: 01.07.2009 at 23:52 [UT+1] »Quote from Steve3 on 01.07.2009 at 22:02 [UT+1]:

d and e could learn from one another. To the extent that I understand either, I'll say that when it comes to self-assurance and selling
oneself, e could teach d. When it comes to self-awareness and development, d could teach e.
...stereotypically speaking of course.

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This is a great start. I would say everything brought forth thus far is getting us somewhere. How about b-c ?
I would say that b teaches c to take proper care of materials and possessions earned, being that with all thatversatility they are likely to accumulate much, but lose out on it due to not taking proper care of it. On the flipside, c teaches b to make something happen with all that they accumulate. Instead of just being "beautiful"and "pleasant" per se (via Venus rulership) b could do something more with it. In other words, do not collectthings just to collect, but make use of it such that others can benefit from it.
Just something that came to mind...I do indeed look forward to hearing more on this matter.
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« Reply #7 - on: 01.07.2009 at 23:56 [UT+1] »Quote from CancerLadie on 01.07.2009 at 21:43 [UT+1]:
Quote from Kwabena on 01.07.2009 at 14:36 [UT+1]:
OMG I was about to ask this question myself!
Susan Miller, who happens to be the creator of astrologyzone.com, mentioned something about this in her book Planets andPosts: 461

Possibilities. At the time I didn't have the time to do the research, but she mentioned how each sign completes somethingof the sign preceding it. The closest I could come to this is considering the- "sequence."
as the detectives seekout the lie,hijhi as the 'judge' comes along and deems it either truly a lie or not, then j [re]inforces what the result(s).

That is as close as I can get to this; I am hoping to learn more as time goes on, even if the above-mentioned is somewhat
on point.
KWABENAih protects itself so that it is set
j grounds the person to follow

Great point. I wonder what other parts of life this sequence could be applied to. Maybe we could also say
up to thrive, thenis the catapult that prompts the person to expand and get out into the world, thenithrough for success.

This is a great way of seeing it - never looked at it like that!
Looking further into how the sequences we mapped out would work out.
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« Reply #8 - on: 02.07.2009 at 00:24 [UT+1] »Quote from Steve3 on 01.07.2009 at 22:02 [UT+1]:

d and e could learn from one another. To the extent that I understand either, I'll say that when it comes to self-assurance and selling
oneself, e could teach d. When it comes to self-awareness and development, d could teach e.
...stereotypically speaking of course.

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Gender:interesting. what you think about Ae5th 6 degree m Cd4th 29 degree.
i study from f a lot.

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« Reply #9 - on: 02.07.2009 at 02:26 [UT+1] »Quote from Stephen Baxter on 01.07.2009 at 12:45 [UT+1]:
Fascinating topic. I think immediately of the differences of the signs. The opposite signs, 180 degrees apart, are less different than theneighboring signs. Taurus is so massively different from Aries and Geminii, but it shares much with Scorpio and is a fairly good blend with
Scorpio.
I believe the opposing sign is the best place to start when learning from other signs.

so true, completely see another perspective sometimes when talking with i's .almost like "wow never thoughtof that " yet it's completely polar to the train of thought and direction i was thinking.
I often learn some amazing insights about things this way.
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Ex Member« Reply #10 - on: 02.07.2009 at 02:40 [UT+1] »Quote from Kwabena on 01.07.2009 at 23:52 [UT+1]:

c teaches b to make something happen with all that they accumulate. Instead of just being "beautiful" and "pleasant" per se (via Venus
rulership) b could do something more with it. In other words, do not collect things just to collect, but make use of it such that others canbenefit from it.
Just something that came to mind...I do indeed look forward to hearing more on this matter.
KWABENAiinteresting,maybe c could be looking for ways which that source material or possessed item/thought which has been
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NewMonkie

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Ex Member« Reply #11 - on: 02.07.2009 at 02:55 [UT+1] »I read that the conflicts of squares are easier to overcome than the conflicts of oppositions.
An interesting thing this reminds me of is when my sister told me that when people have opposing north andsouth nodes (for the moon) they are each able to teach the other what they are supposed to learn in life.
Another interesting thing is that my north node is in sagittarius (hence my south in gemini) and I really enjoy
being around sagittarians, my sagittarius brother advises me to not think things through so much.
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Natasha771
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« Reply #12 - on: 03.07.2009 at 21:07 [UT+1] »The one sequence I can't figure out on this subject is k/l.
What can k learn from l ?

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« Reply #13 - on: 03.07.2009 at 21:15 [UT+1] »Quote from CancerLadie on 03.07.2009 at 21:07 [UT+1]:
The one sequence I can't figure out on this subject is
What cank/l.

k learn from l ?

Aquarius thinks the system (government) can solve all problems if it is advanced enough. Pisces reminds
Aquarius that it is deeply felt compassion that heals, not theories or political parties.
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Van Derek
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« Reply #14 - on: 04.07.2009 at 00:54 [UT+1] »Quote from CancerLadie on 30.06.2009 at 18:32 [UT+1]:
I was thinking today about thef/l axis of work/overwork/health and self sacrifice/self undoing and got to thinking the the key to
l/a the next sign's axis

balancing this axis is balancing the self with the other/the world's needs. This is very
I wonder if this applies to all of the signs? Can each learn from the next and how?

"What can each sign learn from the next?" Striving and letting go....
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« Reply #15 - on: 04.07.2009 at 01:28 [UT+1] »I think that idea relates to the Fire,water,earth,air + Cardinal Mutable and Fixed characteristics...
Fire ----> Earth ----> Air -----> Water ---->Fire (Fire needs to be more down to Earth, Earth needs to be more
open like Air, Air needs to be more emotional like Water?, and Water needs to Motivate more like Fire...)Cardinal ----> Fixed -----> Mutable -----> Cardinal (Cardinal signs need to be more stable, Fixed signs need tobe more free, Mutable signs need to do something instead of changing all the time?

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Of course this is just generalized ideas; not to the individual signs...
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« Reply #16 - on: 04.07.2009 at 16:35 [UT+1] »This is a cool thread!
How about this one, what trait one sign 'lacks' or struggles with, the next sign has it in buckets, and cantherefore teach the sign before them!

k can learn empathy from ll can learn assertiveness from aa can learn patience from bb can learn flexibility from cc can learn sensitivity from dd can learn to take charge from ee can learn to humble the self from f
f can learn to weigh up the details from g
g can learn decisiveness from hh can learn to let go of the past from ii can learn to structure their ideas from jj can learn to be carefree from k

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« Reply #17 - on: 04.07.2009 at 16:54 [UT+1] »And I would say, you are who you are and it's senseless to learn from the next.

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« Reply #18 - on: 04.07.2009 at 17:01 [UT+1] »But then you learn from the next sign anyway....when you're Sun progresses from your own sign to the next!

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« Reply #19 - on: 04.07.2009 at 17:51 [UT+1] »It's not compulsory!

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« Reply #20 - on: 04.07.2009 at 18:25 [UT+1] »Quote from Penguin Trauma on 04.07.2009 at 16:35 [UT+1]:
This is a cool thread!
How about this one, what trait one sign 'lacks' or struggles with, the next sign has it in buckets, and can therefore teach the sign beforethem!

k can learn empathy from ll can learn assertiveness from aa can learn patience from bb can learn flexibility from cc can learn sensitivity from dd can learn to take charge from ee can learn to humble the self from f
f can learn to weigh up the details from g
g can learn decisiveness from hh can learn to let go of the past from ii can learn to structure their ideas from jj can learn to be carefree from k

I agree with that.
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Natasha771

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« Reply #21 - on: 04.07.2009 at 23:10 [UT+1] »[quote author=Stephen Baxter link=1246383136/20#20 date=1246728313]Quote from Penguin Trauma on
04.07.2009 at 16:35 [UT+1]:
This is a cool thread!
How about this one, what trait one sign 'lacks' or struggles with, the next sign has it in buckets, and can therefore teach the sign beforethem!

k can learn empathy from ll can learn assertiveness from a
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Gender:a can learn patience from bb can learn flexibility from cc can learn sensitivity from dd can learn to take charge from ee can learn to humble the self from f
f can learn to weigh up the details from g
g can learn decisiveness from hh can learn to let go of the past from ii can learn to structure their ideas from jj can learn to be carefree from k

I agree with that.[/quote
I agree with all except the last line. Is k really carefree? Or is it weighed down by the responsibility of thecollective good? My stepmom is a classic k and very much the opposite of carefree
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« Reply #22 - on: 05.07.2009 at 01:46 [UT+1] »Quote from CancerLadie on 03.07.2009 at 21:07 [UT+1]:
The one sequence I can't figure out on this subject is
What cank/l.

k learn from l ?

how to love.
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« Reply #23 - on: 05.07.2009 at 13:46 [UT+1] »[quote author=CancerLadie link=1246383136/20#21 date=1246745450]Quote from Stephen Baxter on
04.07.2009 at 18:25 [UT+1]:
Quote from Penguin Trauma on 04.07.2009 at 16:35 [UT+1]:
This is a cool thread!
How about this one, what trait one sign 'lacks' or struggles with, the next sign has it in buckets, and can therefore teachthe sign before them!

k can learn empathy from ll can learn assertiveness from aa can learn patience from bb can learn flexibility from cc can learn sensitivity from dd can learn to take charge from ee can learn to humble the self from f
f can learn to weigh up the details from g
g can learn decisiveness from hh can learn to let go of the past from ii can learn to structure their ideas from jj can learn to be carefree from k

I agree with that.[/quotek really carefree? Or is it weighed down by the responsibility of the collective good? My stepmom
k and very much the opposite of carefree

I agree with all except the last line. Is
is a classic

I think in their mind they seem to be more care-free. As in Cappie tends to stick to the rules, and Aquas areforever trying to break those rules. But it's also true that Aquas can be weighed down by the responsibility, verymuch so, which is where/why their detachment comes in very handy.
So maybe we can change it to, j can learn to 'think outside the box' from k??
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« Reply #24 - on: 05.07.2009 at 16:03 [UT+1] »Definitely! Aqua's are all about thinking outside the box. And they could easily "teach" this to Caps.
Can we re-create the great list below so as to pair up opposite signs?
E.g. what do Caps learn from Cancers?
Or Cancers from Caps?
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Ex Member« Reply #25 - on: 08.07.2009 at 02:31 [UT+1] »Perhaps Pisces can also teach aquarians not to be the outsiders. Pisces get along with most people.
I read that the meaning of Ke is that their goal is to stop wanting to be right all the time and just join in, as
opposed to being the outsider.
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« Reply #26 - on: 08.07.2009 at 03:20 [UT+1] »OK, I can see that in my k stepmom. Always right and knows whats good for everyone

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« Reply #27 - on: 08.07.2009 at 11:03 [UT+1] »I think this is an excellent topic.

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In a general sense, I think the signs are a natural progression of learning and discovery. The pattern goes fire,
earth, air, water. Fire prompts action, Earth refines that action, Air effortlessly applies the action, and Water
thinks about the next action.
We can further divide this into three arcs. The first arc, a - d, deals with making friends and personal
relationships (building connections). The second arc, e - h, deals with work (building accomplishments), andthe third arc, i - l, deals with the bigger picture (building ideas).
You can start anywhere, but I'm going to start in a.
a prompts the action to make friends and build connections. As you go along, you find that some are
accepting of your friendship and others are not. You learn to refine and make decisions about your close
relationships and enter b. In b you are learning to spend more time with the close ones around you rather
than seeking new connections. You learn to pay more attention to those around you. As you become satisfied
with this, you enter c, where you learn to really enjoy the close connections you have. You effortlessly
process the integration and separation of people into your personal network. Seeing that you have surrounded
yourself with good healthy connections, you enter d, where you think about what more you can do for thosethat are close to you. You think about better ways to provide for those around you. At this point you entere, prompting the action to accomplish something truly great. However, greatness is not easy and it may takefurther training and work to realize goals. You enter f, where training and refinement of action is learned toshape your accomplishments to perfection. As you learn how to realize your goals you enter g, where you
apply proper balance in your efforts as you learn what requires effort and what is done effortlessly. As you
enjoy meeting your goals you think more about the ramifications of what you have really accomplished. You
enter h, where you think about what this world really needs. As you ponder and look around you, you begin
to see real problems and begin to formulate solutions. You enter i, which prompts the action to build big
ideas. However, those around you may consider you to be a little mad, and you recognize that your big ideas
are probably not feasible or realistic. You enter j, refining your world view and focusing on ideas that will bemost beneficial while rejecting the impractical. As you become accustomed to doing this, you enter k, where
you process various ideas and world views effortlessly with keen insight. You are truly a citizen of the world.
Upon realizing your place in the world, you enter l, where you integrate your ideas into yourself. You desire
to find those who think like you. You enter a, which prompts the action to make friends and build
connections.
Just for kicks and giggles, I will reveal that my three older brothers married people who were behind them inprogression, but on the same arc. My oldest brother, a j, divorced a e. (I can't recall the sign of his currentwife) My next brother, a l, married a i. My third brother, a h, married a e. I am a e who is not yet
married, but I do take a liking to pretty young d girls.

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Ex Member« Reply #28 - on: 10.07.2009 at 18:14 [UT+1] »Quote from NewMonkie on 08.07.2009 at 02:31 [UT+1]:
Perhaps Pisces can also teach aquarians not to be the outsiders. Pisces get along with most people.
I read that the meaning of

Ke is that their goal is to stop wanting to be right all the time and just join in, as opposed to being theoutsider.

Could be. We need to remember that each opposite SIGN is about the polarity of the existing sign.
the SN is about the past lives......the NN about the now..and how we need to integrate the now and how weneed to leave the past behind us.
However, it's very difficult for us to leave what is comforting and comfortable which we were use to and familiarwith.
So following the NN can be sticky and uncomfortable for us.
Some succeed, some take the easier route or the path of least resistance in life.
I have a c NN and a i SN and have been told, it's the best of both worlds, as it shows a past life or two ofmuch learning (i) and now a life of teaching c and dissemination of what I learned.
that sounds right to me.
The nodes also fall in the 11th (nn) and 5th (sn) the houses of "Others 11th" and "me" 5th.
I teach many people what I've learned from past lives.
As for SunSigns and the opposing polarity?
I have a jA and a d ASC...and my traits are both although I think the emotions override.
My daughter is a dA with j Rising, and I always said, she was me (inside out)
My husband's A g o my Aj and both Cardinal signs.
No one in our home was anything but a Cardinal Sign (all 3 daughters, two of them j)
No one was willing to take the back seat
But we learn as well from difference as well as sameness. For me, having my A o his
was not easy yet a lifetime of learning from him how to view things differently, which is very important, IMO.
We come together however, with his B d and my AC in d
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« Reply #29 - on: 11.07.2009 at 01:39 [UT+1] »I totally agree with the evolution as developed in the previous list... It actually relates to the house system, andis a logical progression...
As far as learning, I think that it is not an easy thing to "learn" from the adjacent sign... There is no connection,
it feels like two neighbors having nothing in common...
I feel there is much more potential in polarities, as well as sign sharing the same mode or element...
I am capricorn, and I have never been able to have a relationship/friendship/meaningful work relationship withan aquarius or sagittarius... and I am just talking about having a simple interaction that I would remember, be
it bad or good....
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