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Erich
Ex MemberMate signs that share the same planetary ruler« on: 07.08.2019 at 08:11 [UT+1] »Before Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto were discovered there were mate signs, one male sign, and one female sign,that shared the same planetary ruler.
Cancer and Leo are the exceptions by having their own singular ruler.
Aries and Scorpio ruled by Mars; Taurus and Libra ruled by Venus; Gemini and Virgo ruled by Mercury;
Sagittarius and Pisces ruled by Jupiter;
Capricorn and Aquarius ruled by Saturn.
According to astrologer, Lois Haines Sargent,these same author of " How to Handle Your Human Relations"those signs ruled by the same planet will be easily adaptable to each other provided the mental-emotionalspiritual requirements are satisfied.
Sagittarius Felicity Huffman and her husband Pisces William H. Macy, are one example of this kind of pairing.
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #1 - on: 08.08.2019 at 22:56 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 07.08.2019 at 08:11 [UT+1]:
Before Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto were discovered there were mate signs, one male sign, and one female sign, that shared the sameplanetary ruler.
Cancer and Leo are the exceptions by having their own singular ruler.

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Aries and Scorpio ruled by Mars; Taurus and Libra ruled by Venus; Gemini and Virgo ruled by Mercury; Sagittarius and Pisces ruled byJupiter;
Capricorn and Aquarius ruled by Saturn.
According to astrologer, Lois Haines Sargent,these same author of " How to Handle Your Human Relations" those signs ruled by the sameplanet will be easily adaptable to each other provided the mental-emotional-spiritual requirements are satisfied.
Sagittarius Felicity Huffman and her husband Pisces William H. Macy, are one example of this kind of pairing.

My late great friend and husband was a Leo with Cancer Asc.
I'm very much 4thH Aquarius (opp Leo!) Uranus in Cancer ... and 5thH, and Leo planets.
Its not what you mean, Erich, but this connection sealed it for us.
However, I'm sure on looking at our charts I will find strong shared ruler signs. Like Pisces (Neptune andSagittarius) - we were both artists.
Interesting. Thanks Erich.
Jen J
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #2 - on: 08.08.2019 at 23:40 [UT+1] »Did your Uranus in Cancer conjunct his Cancer Ascendant, Jen J?'
What is really interesting with the Leo Sun, Pisces Sun combination is that their respective solstice points
comprise a mate sign relationship due to the fact that a Leo Sun has a Taurus solstice point and a Pisces Sun
has a Libra solstice point.
I just realized this !
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #3 - on: 11.08.2019 at 01:08 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 08.08.2019 at 23:40 [UT+1]:
Did your Uranus in Cancer conjunct his Cancer Ascendant, Jen J?'
What is really interesting with the Leo Sun, Pisces Sun combination is that their respective solstice points comprise a mate sign
relationship due to the fact that a Leo Sun has a Taurus solstice point and a Pisces Sun has a Libra solstice point.
I just realized this !

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So interesting about solstice points! Thanks Erich.
Interesting that he has Mars in Taurus and I have Mars in Libra.
Firstly, I apologise in mistaking his Asc as Cancer. Its Libra.
I was confused by his Asc ruler Venus being in Cancer.
His Asc is conj my Neptune in Libra.
His Uranus is conj my Sun in Pisces.
His Neptune conj his Sun in Leo. My Sun is Pisces 5thH.
His moon is opp my moon in Pisces.
Also both our Jupiters are conj in Aquarius.
Jen J
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #4 - on: 11.08.2019 at 02:07 [UT+1] »Thanks for clearing up the confusion and setting the record straight, Jen J, and also providing additional astro
details that flesh out your wonderful marriage.

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #5 - on: 13.08.2019 at 15:51 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 11.08.2019 at 02:07 [UT+1]:
Thanks for clearing up the confusion and setting the record straight, Jen J, and also providing additional astro details that flesh out yourwonderful marriage.

I think it was down to both our Jupiters conj in Aquarius.
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So it confirms your original post, re shared sign rulers : in this case, although Jupiter is co ruler of Pisces it isstill a Fire sign ruler, so ties in with Leo prominent in both our charts, while it sat opposite Leo in Aquarius.
Aquarius - unusual : he wss 24 years older than me.
Everything between us was opposites, but the common denominator Jupiter, opp Leo, pulled all the polarities
together.
By the same token, my sun went down when he passed away.
Apologies to focus on him - my excuse is the current transit of Venus conj Sun in Leo being the Yod apex withSaturn/Pluto and Neptune.
Thanks Erich.

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #6 - on: 13.08.2019 at 16:55 [UT+1] »And let's also consider that your 5th house Sun corresponded with his 5th sign Leo Sun.
Furthermore, you shared the same Chinese astrological sign!
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #7 - on: 14.08.2019 at 04:11 [UT+1] »Erich I'm not so convinced that sharing a sign ruler is necessarily beneficial.
If we allow a wide orb, then there is some probability that suns in Gemini-Virgo and Pisces-Sagittarius will besquared. Suns in Libra-Taurus, Scorpio-Aries, and Capricorn-Aquarius may be inconjunct (quincunx or semisextile.) Then if these aspects do not pertain, with suns in these signs, the couple are probably lacking any
meaningful sun-sun contact.
Chances are that a happy couple with one of these sun pairings has a lot of other good stuff going for them intheir synastry (chart comparisons or composite chart.)
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #8 - on: 14.08.2019 at 18:18 [UT+1] »In the case of the mutable pairings; Pisces and Sagittarius and Gemini and Virgo (provided that there aresimilar core beliefs) the flexibility
they share and the stimulus of the square if in orb of influence can give the necessary spice for continued
growth and a lasting relationship between them.
Archer, Keith Richards, 12/18, and Fish, Patti Hansen, 3/17, have an almost an exact square and have a longthriving marriage.
Libra and Taurus; you don't see getting together very often.
The one celebrity couple I can think of was Angie Dickinson - Libra to Burt Bacharach's - Taurus and ended upin divorce.
Capricorn and Aquarius as adjacent signs might very well have some planets placed in each others signs.
Aries and Scorpio seem to find each other a lot and tend to get on quite well.
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #9 - on: 15.08.2019 at 02:48 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 13.08.2019 at 16:55 [UT+1]:
And let's also consider that your 5th house Sun corresponded with his 5th sign Leo Sun.
Furthermore, you shared the same Chinese astrological sign!

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OMG! you are so right Erich!! Wow and I never knew that!
Were we lucky or what!!! Too much!

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #10 - on: 15.08.2019 at 20:37 [UT+1] »Beneficent planets rule over your relationship houses. Jupiter co-ruling your 5th house and Venus ruling your7th house.

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #11 - on: 15.08.2019 at 21:36 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 15.08.2019 at 20:37 [UT+1]:Beneficent planets rule over your relationship houses. Jupiter co-ruling your 5th house and Venus ruling your 7th house.

I think perhaps I can genuinely say it was a marriage made in the heavens!

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Erich, I think even one's chart has an in-built (astrological) mate magnet! You get what your chart says, when itsays!
So I am grateful for where my Jupiter's arrow is in my chart in Aquarius.. It got me my Leo.
him his Scorpio (Pluto in Leo).

and his got

I wonder if Jupiter's arrow works this way more often in people's charts?
Also, Jupiter rules luck.
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #12 - on: 16.08.2019 at 21:35 [UT+1] »It was surely written in the stars, Jen J.

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #13 - on: 18.08.2019 at 06:52 [UT+1] »Erich, I don't think you can claim too much from a few charts, notably of celebrities.
Basically synastry goes by two-chart comparisons, looking at paired planets' aspects (by degrees) and interaspects between them and ascendants, not just by suns. (Although it's helpful if they are sextiled or trined.) A
couple might have squared suns, yet strong pairings elsewhere in the chart, such as sun-moon or sun-Venus.
Sometimes the two-chart comparisons don;t look so good, then it is useful to do a midpoint composite chart,
which will often tell a different story.

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #14 - on: 18.08.2019 at 08:31 [UT+1] »Waybread
You have brought up some worthwhile issues that could merit a thread of their own.
The best aspect between Sun signs for one. I would go with the sextile as it provides harmony and enoughdifference for continued
stimulation so that the relationship doesn't stagnate out of the constant state of sameness.
The Secondary or Arabic chart pioneered by the late astrologer Carl Payne Tobey has helped me to findanswers to attractions between
people that other systems have not.
To find your Secondary Ascendant: the formula is Ascendant plus Ascendant minus your Sun. My secondary
Ascendant is Aquarius.
Your natal Ascendant becomes Your Sun in the Arabic Chart. Your Part of Fortune is now your Moon in theArabic Chart.
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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #15 - on: 19.08.2019 at 05:18 [UT+1] »My husband and I have suns trined within the same degree. His Mars conjuncts my Venus. My Mars trines hisVenus. Our nodal axes are conjunct and reversed. (He's 9.5 years older than me.) My sun sextiles his moon.
My moon sextiles his Jupiter.
His namesake asteroid conjuncts my sun. That's a lot of planetary glue in our 22-year marriage.
Not everyone needs constant excitement in a marriage, which can too often mean turmoil. The best marriages,
IMO, are where the couple are best friends and share the same values, as well as being lovers..

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #16 - on: 19.08.2019 at 17:54 [UT+1] »Betty Lundsted wrote a book that suggested what you do Erich.

I really haven't found any foundation or'truth' to the theory. From personal experience nor from reading charts. I tend to believe the obvious
planetary combinations in Synastry will show much more as to the nature of the relationship. And Compositeof course.
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But tbh, I have not found that "those signs ruled by the same planet will be easily adaptable to each otherprovided the mental-emotional-spiritual requirements are satisfied"
But it is an interesting theory, one I have investigated. Idk, the basics of planetary interactions in the Synastry
will tell the story.
And of course the Natals, and Composite.

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Re: Mate signs that share the same planetary« Reply #17 - on: 20.08.2019 at 04:45 [UT+1] »There is a further step that could also use some investigative research and that is using the Chaldean decans foradditional compatibility between mate signs.
For example: The first Chaldean decan of Pisces is ruled by Saturn and the last Chadean decan of Sagittarius isalso ruled by Saturn giving both a starting point of additional similarity of temperament.
When there is an easy method to use that may provide accurate results there seems to be a natural resistancethat this is too good to be tru, and it is dismissed without further thought or investigation to see if it is valid ornot..
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