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Nancy Lola
Ex MemberCompatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« on: 24.05.2019 at 01:13 [UT+1] »What is the synistrical meaning of opposing Sun signs?
Theoretical and Experiential perspectives are welcome.

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #1 - on: 24.05.2019 at 08:38 [UT+1] »It's like two people sitting across from each other at a café on a date. Perhaps a cozy place (Earth) or maybe it'sa loud bar? (Fire).
They will always be sitting across from each other...Gazing.
They may be looking at each other or looking away. It doesn't matter...They can only see themselves in the
person across from them anyway.
It's a very good combination for building confidence. Even the conflict generated in the relationship helps each
person define better who they are and shine brighter.
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Friesiangal
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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #2 - on: 24.05.2019 at 09:22 [UT+1] »Quote from Nancy Lola on 24.05.2019 at 01:13 [UT+1]:
What is the synistrical meaning of opposing Sun signs?
Theoretical and Experiential perspectives are welcome.

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Wouldn't it be the same as the effect of the opposing sign to the Sun sign in a native's chart?
In synastry, the person could see in, and learn from, another that which lies 'subsconsciously' (active)inthemselves.
E.g. My husband is a Sag. Sun,; he only talks of and preaches his own personal views. Yet he is not aware that
he is incurably curious (Gemini) about what is generally going on around him and it is this curiousity thatdefines his stated opinions.
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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #3 - on: 24.05.2019 at 09:50 [UT+1] »I'm A and E b and in my youth (60s/70s) was powerfully attracted to Ah men.
If one entered a party I'd see him straight away and things would start smouldering.
I still recognise them by their eyes and head in the other direction!
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After several interactions with h men I had to stop sleeping with them, as dating was a nightmare. .It neverworked out.

A h women I generally don't like although I have 2 h women friends.
I have an older (18 mths) Ah sister,who physically hurt me for the first 3 years of my life,then my parents
put her in charge of me.She continued to bully me,playing my younger sister and I off against each other in amanipulative way and I have a love/hate relationship with her.I withdraw from her for long periods but thengive her another chance.
There's no other sign I'd avoid,but some that don't seem to come into my life eg a and e. I love other b s
and we like each other from the get go.

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #4 - on: 24.05.2019 at 11:36 [UT+1] »I'm a double Libra (tight AmB) and one of my closest friends is a double Aries. In ten years we've never had
an actual fight, and I feel energised by the relationship. We respect our differences and find a lot of common
ground. But we also give each other a lot of space, and I think this is key.
When it comes to romantic relationships though, forget about it. a likes to lead in a very overt way and,ironically, this brings out the a in me. Some battles I win and some I lose, but I don't enjoy the constant
clashing of wills.

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I think it's easier if the opposing signs are mutable - although someone will have to help them cross the street(just kidding), or even fixed (I actually think this works best).
In my particular case, having an opposition or square to my Sun means the same aspect is made to my Moon.
And for a love relationship that spells disaster. So no d or j either.
Anyway, something to take into account: the Sun-Moon aspect in the natal chart, and how the oppositioninteracts with that. Having someone's Sun opposite yours but conjunct your Moon could be pretty great.

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Nancy Lola

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #5 - on: 24.05.2019 at 23:24 [UT+1] »Quote from Snipee on 24.05.2019 at 08:38 [UT+1]:
It's like two people sitting across from each other at a café on a date. Perhaps a cozy place (Earth) or maybe it's a loud bar? (Fire).
They will always be sitting across from each other...Gazing.
They may be looking at each other or looking away. It doesn't matter...They can only see themselves in the person across from them
anyway.
It's a very good combination for building confidence. Even the conflict generated in the relationship helps each person define better who
they are and shine brighter.

Thank you, Snipee!
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Nancy Lola
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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #6 - on: 24.05.2019 at 23:26 [UT+1] »Quote from wanderer on 24.05.2019 at 09:50 [UT+1]:
I'm

A and E b and in my youth (60s/70s) was powerfully attracted to Ah men.

If one entered a party I'd see him straight away and things would start smouldering.
I still recognise them by their eyes and head in the other direction!
After several interactions withmen I had to stop sleeping with them, as dating was a nightmare. .It never worked out.
women I generally don't like although I have 2
women friends.

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Ah

h

Ah

I have an older (18 mths)
sister,who physically hurt me for the first 3 years of my life,then my parents put her in charge of me.She
continued to bully me,playing my younger sister and I off against each other in a manipulative way and I have a love/hate relationshipwith her.I withdraw from her for long periods but then give her another chance.
There's no other sign I'd avoid,but some that don't seem to come into my life eg
the get go.

a and e. I love other b s and we like each other fromThank you, wanderer!
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Nancy Lola

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #7 - on: 24.05.2019 at 23:41 [UT+1] »Friesiangal and Ana Libra,
I had to ask because, in horary, the opposition spells a type of unsatisfactory outcome. In natal, good or badtransits, we have no option but to deal. In synastry, we have the option. So, I wondered, whether Sun opp.
Sun is as negative as it sounds. It is a disharmonious aspect, after all. From what I gather from all the posters
on this thread is that, in synastry, it is a type of yin/yang combination; complimentary rather than stressful.
I'm asking about the Sco./Tau. dynamic. I can imagine Tau. would stabilise Sco. and Sco. would inspire Tau.

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #8 - on: 24.05.2019 at 23:50 [UT+1] »Indeed, it's like meeting the other half of yourself. The results though can be both enlightening and pretty
dark... sometimes the opposite is a complementary force, other times an enemy. All opposing signs have their
particular denominators in common, from "myself-the others" (a-l), to "order and chaos" (f-l), it shows
how indispensable is their collaboration... probably the sinister features of an opposition comes from thedegree of acceptance we have towards ourselves.
(btw, happy bday to all the gems out there <3)

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #9 - on: 25.05.2019 at 00:44 [UT+1] »I think the signs involved are important. I married 2 Aquarians. I am a Leo. Neither was a success. Because
my second husband and I have other compatible (and also incompatible) energies, we have stayed together.
However: the longer we know each other the MORE obvious how different we are.
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Opposites attract for a reason. We all want what we don't have. There are qualities in the opposite sun sign
which we admire and want to "have" - but we also want to remain true to ourselves. I found it has been very
hard to be true to myself because the incompatibilities in our charts are actually, in the long run, MORE
IMPORTANT than the compatibilities. To be truthful, HE misrepresented himself for a long time in order to be
in my life. But one cannot lie one's way thru life. Eventually the authentic person comes thru.
But that is my personal experience. Other Leo-Aquarius connections may have different experiences.

And

other OPPOSITION Suns my have different experiences.
So....the Sun sign opp. is NOT the entire story.
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Nancy Lola
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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #10 - on: 25.05.2019 at 01:10 [UT+1] »Quote from Roland303 on 24.05.2019 at 23:50 [UT+1]:
Indeed, it's like meeting the other half of yourself. The results though can be both enlightening and pretty dark... sometimes the opposite
is a complementary force, other times an enemy. All opposing signs have their particular denominators in common, from "myself-thealflothers" ( - ), to "order and chaos" ( - ), it shows how indispensable is their collaboration... probably the sinister features of an
opposition comes from the degree of acceptance we have towards ourselves.
(btw, happy bday to all the gems out there <3)Happy bday to you, too, if you are a Gem.
So, that's where the disharmonious energy comes from, the tug between the polarities. With Sco. and Tau.,
Sco is impulsive whereas Tau. is slow. I can see how an imbalance between the two could irritate each of themin the exact right way.

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Nancy Lola

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #11 - on: 25.05.2019 at 01:18 [UT+1] »Quote from Linda Harris on 25.05.2019 at 00:44 [UT+1]:
I think the signs involved are important. I married 2 Aquarians. I am a Leo. Neither was a success. Because my second husband and I
have other compatible (and also incompatible) energies, we have stayed together. However: the longer we know each other the MORE
obvious how different we are.
Opposites attract for a reason. We all want what we don't have. There are qualities in the opposite sun sign which we admire and want to"have" - but we also want to remain true to ourselves. I found it has been very hard to be true to myself because the incompatibilities inour charts are actually, in the long run, MORE IMPORTANT than the compatibilities. To be truthful, HE misrepresented himself for a longtime in order to be in my life. But one cannot lie one's way thru life. Eventually the authentic person comes thru.
But that is my personal experience. Other Leo-Aquarius connections may have different experiences. And other OPPOSITION Suns myhave different experiences.
So....the Sun sign opp. is NOT the entire story.
LainieDear Lainie,
I am sorry your husband misrepresented himself. I think we all get into relationships believing the best and,one way or another, we have to face the truth that comes afterwards. But Aquarians like to be controversial, by
nature. Since you have gravitated to another Aquarian, I hope whatever it was that attracted you to him
continues to provide you with some important sense of life balance, more so than imbalance. I imagine, withyour surfboarding hobbies, you get your fair share of air that way.

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #12 - on: 25.05.2019 at 05:56 [UT+1] »Nancy, I assume we're talking about actual synastry, which goes by degrees. Not just sun-signs, each of whichruns an entire 30-degree spread. I have found that wider orbs than for nativities seem to work in synastry. By
which I mean around 12 degrees.
With the opposition, the two people are definitely connecting, but the nature of the opposition is inherently
stressful. For example:
Aries: "I gotta be me!"Libra: "Let's work on us."Posts: 14740
Gender:Taurus: "I like calm and grounded stability."
Scorpio: "I like intensity. Let's have a sledgehammer discussion where I get to be right."
Gemini: "Let's do the Sunday New York Times crossword puzzle!"
Sagittarius: "Just hand me the travel section."
Cancer: "Hold my hand! Let's cuddle!"
Capricorn: "Just as soon as I'm back from mountain-climbing."
Leo: "Damn, I'm good!"
Aquarius: "Congratulations. See you later."
My husband's Libra sun trines mine in Aquarius at the same degree. However, my sister's Leo sun opposesmine. I would call our relationship cordial. We have lived far apart for a long time, but make a point of getting
together once per year. But she doesn't seem to appreciate my being very good at anything. I think that's her
department. I get to murmur appreciatively.

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Roland303

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #13 - on: 25.05.2019 at 09:06 [UT+1] »Quote from Nancy Lola on 25.05.2019 at 01:10 [UT+1]:

Happy bday to you, too, if you are a Gem.
So, that's where the disharmonious energy comes from, the tug between the polarities. With Sco. and Tau., Sco is impulsive whereas Tau.
is slow. I can see how an imbalance between the two could irritate each of them in the exact right way.

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I wouldn't call Scorpio impulsive, sure, it's ruled by Mars, but its energy is more intensive than projected
outside, this is the feature in common with Taurus, they have a great need to have control over their resources(think of the themes "money"), with Taurus it is a brighter spectrum of resources: material goods, food,practical things; with Scorpio the resources to control are those that involve our darkest experiences: death,sex, the goods that come from these experiences.
And thanks for you bday wishes! but I share my bday with Marina Abramovich and Ulay (in my picture The
Other: Rest Energy).

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Nancy Lola
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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #14 - on: 25.05.2019 at 11:42 [UT+1] »Of course, I agree, R303, Scorpio is known for intensity more than impulsivity, which I relate to Scorpio's
legendary passions and contrast to Taurean "let's wait ten years before we decide our next step."

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Nancy Lola

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #15 - on: 25.05.2019 at 11:59 [UT+1] »Quote from Waybread on 25.05.2019 at 05:56 [UT+1]:
Nancy, I assume we're talking about actual synastry, which goes by degrees. Not just sun-signs, each of which runs an entire 30-degree
spread. I have found that wider orbs than for nativities seem to work in synastry. By which I mean around 12 degrees.
With the opposition, the two people are definitely connecting, but the nature of the opposition is inherently stressful. For example:
Aries: "I gotta be me!"Libra: "Let's work on us."
Taurus: "I like calm and grounded stability."
Scorpio: "I like intensity. Let's have a sledgehammer discussion where I get to be right."
Gemini: "Let's do the Sunday New York Times crossword puzzle!"
Sagittarius: "Just hand me the travel section."
Cancer: "Hold my hand! Let's cuddle!"
Capricorn: "Just as soon as I'm back from mountain-climbing."
Leo: "Damn, I'm good!"
Aquarius: "Congratulations. See you later."
My husband's Libra sun trines mine in Aquarius at the same degree. However, my sister's Leo sun opposes mine. I would call our
relationship cordial. We have lived far apart for a long time, but make a point of getting together once per year. But she doesn't seem toappreciate my being very good at anything. I think that's her department. I get to murmur appreciatively.

Dear Waybread,You blow my mind with your humor and creative flair (among your many other talents). What an amazing post!
You are so MISSED around here, lately. No doubt you are enjoying Spring.
I remain ever grateful for your support and, especially, your wise counsel concerning my Pluto transits. At the
beginning, it was impossible for me to understand but, with your support, I am starting to see the Spring you
told me would come.
You are always my STAR.

I'm surprised and not surprised about your sister's relationship with you since her Sun is in the same sign as
your Moon. I say not surprised as my Scorpio Sun is conjunct my sibling's Scorpio Moon and we have no
relationship. His Sun opposes mine.
On the opposition, yes, stressful is what I was concerned about. I was hoping oppositional pairing was acomplement and, initially, it seems to be. But I can see how it can become a constant call to re-adjustment.

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #16 - on: 25.05.2019 at 21:58 [UT+1] »With AnA, it becomes something akin to the 'Sun-sign- Astrology-Show', with our more stereotypical traits
coming to the fore and sun-shining for all to see.
For example, this opposition brings all of those stereotyped traits to light, both positive and negative. It canbe invigorating in a harsh way...kind of like when a plant gets nothing but full Sun.
It's also a fairly respectful pairing, handled correctly, with both appreciating the differences they highlight ineach other...
Posts: 1941...It's a very real accentuation of 'opposites attracting'.
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Nancy Lola

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #17 - on: 25.05.2019 at 22:21 [UT+1] »Beautiful description, p twelve, thank you!

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #18 - on: 26.05.2019 at 11:00 [UT+1] »Quote from Nancy Lola on 24.05.2019 at 23:41 [UT+1]:
Friesiangal and Ana Libra,
In synastry, we have the option. So, I wondered, whether Sun opp. Sun is as negative as it sounds. It is a disharmonious aspect, after all.
From what I gather from all the posters on this thread is that, in synastry, it is a type of yin/yang combination; complimentary rather

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Gender:than stressful.
I'm asking about the Sco./Tau. dynamic. I can imagine Tau. would stabilise Sco. and Sco. would inspire Tau.
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With Sco. and Tau., Sco is impulsive whereas Tau. is slow. I can see how an imbalance between the two could irritate eachof them in the exact right way.

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my Scorpio Sun
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You are the first Scorpio Sun I have ever read/heard say that the sign is im-pulsive instead of com-pulsive.
Both signs are on the natural values axis.
Taurus is the sign that bases life upon the physically material. When Taurus loves it will 'say it with flowers', goout for dinner, show its affection with a touch and/or kiss. It will mend the fence, paint the walls, etc., whichshow how much it values you as an individual. It won't necessarily want to jump into the sack right away. It
will, indeed, be slow-moving until Venus's rulership of the sign desires the physical love and wants to express it,
through a long-term commitment to, and with another. It will be aware of what you wear, how much you eat,
what it all costs and, especially, the effect upon your figure. (Venus tends towards physical sweetness!)
Active temptation to achieve its reward is an unfamilar commodity.
OTOH, Scorpio values are experienced through the emotions. Flowers, dinner, repairs, words said during aphysical embrace don't express how Taurus really 'feels' and what the value of a relationship between two
people means.
Scorpio does not desire commitment to a relationship but, through passion, requires exclusive possession andownership of it and of the object of its desire. The clothes it wears and meals it cooks are not to please theother, but an individual investment to wile, coerce, persuade, and attract 'the prey' to its web for its own consummational values. If the investment pays off, it can literally lead Taurus by the nose up the aisle in a binding
ring commitment. It's Taurus that will desire the pre-nuptial agreement.
I would argue that it is Mars' rulership of Scorpio that can have an all-consuming passionate physical union, yet
without love ever entering into it. When passion dies, Mars' influence upon Scorpio can turn away onto the next
conquest without looking back. Taurus expresses itself never better than through Venus's association with longlasting love, from youth to geriatricism.
If/when a relationship ends, Taurus will get the physical satisfaction of car, house with swimming pool, and agood alimony settlement. It is Pluto 's rulership of Scorpio's side that can feel emotional satisfaction by'destroying another', and/or bear an emotional grudge, and feel consumed by revenge. Yet also experience thefreedom of liberation that 'final death' of a personally traumatising situation can bring with it.
I am biased, of course.
Taurus hides its emotional side, so can learn from Scorpio to show it and find appreciation in other than merely
physical awareness upon the senses. Similarly Scorpio's torrent of emotions can be eased and tamed whenseeing the physical 'facts of life' that Taurus presents..... like it or not.
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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #19 - on: 26.05.2019 at 14:09 [UT+1] »Hi Nancy,
Well, the synastrical meaning of opposing Sun signs is that they can shape their future together pretty well,since they both have what each other lacks…

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Gender:I have a good example at work, where the lady is a Libra sun and the husband an Aries sun...however they havebeen together for their whole life (they are childhood sweethearts) probably because they share the sameascendant and the same moon...she gets desperate, the lady, but we know how possessive Libra is… but I did
tell her once, when she went through one of those relationship crisis that she regularly goes through. I told herthat her relationship is fine, because, after all, opposing Sun signs always carry the shadow of the other,so what
can feel safer than knowing that your husband/wife does your dirty work?
Every time friends mention a Sun Sign opposition in their relationships it interests me...and to be honest there
are a lot... so there must be some truth to it, wouldn t you say?
Not met many Taurus-Scorpio pairings...the one I know are relatives and they are quite happy...so happy that
the Taurus husband mentions often that he is quite happy to have married the Scorpio lady...sort of confirmingthat spending their lives together makes sense and not mentioning physical compatibility or friendshipissues...then again Taurus is very conscious of stability and the long term...cannot live without it really, Taurus
loves definite things...
Love, Marie

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Nancy Lola
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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #20 - on: 27.05.2019 at 15:52 [UT+1] »Quote from Friesiangal on 26.05.2019 at 11:00 [UT+1]:

You are the first Scorpio Sun I have ever read/heard say that the sign is im-pulsive instead of com-pulsive.
Both signs are on the natural values axis.
Taurus is the sign that bases life upon the physically material. When Taurus loves it will 'say it with flowers', go out for dinner, show its
affection with a touch and/or kiss. It will mend the fence, paint the walls, etc., which show how much it values you as an individual. It
won't necessarily want to jump into the sack right away. It will, indeed, be slow-moving until Venus's rulership of the sign desires thephysical love and wants to express it, through a long-term commitment to, and with another. It will be aware of what you wear, how muchyou eat, what it all costs and, especially, the effect upon your figure. (Venus tends towards physical sweetness!)
Active temptation to achieve its reward is an unfamilar commodity.
OTOH, Scorpio values are experienced through the emotions. Flowers, dinner, repairs, words said during a physical embrace don't express
how Taurus really 'feels' and what the value of a relationship between two people means.
Scorpio does not desire commitment to a relationship but, through passion, requires exclusive possession and ownership of it and of theobject of its desire. The clothes it wears and meals it cooks are not to please the other, but an individual investment to wile, coerce,
persuade, and attract 'the prey' to its web for its own con-summational values. If the investment pays off, it can literally lead Taurus by
the nose up the aisle in a binding ring commitment. It's Taurus that will desire the pre-nuptial agreement.
I would argue that it is Mars' rulership of Scorpio that can have an all-consuming passionate physical union, yet without love ever entering
into it. When passion dies, Mars' influence upon Scorpio can turn away onto the next conquest without looking back. Taurus expresses itself
never better than through Venus's association with long-lasting love, from youth to geriatricism.

If/when a relationship ends, Taurus will get the physical satisfaction of car, house with swimming pool, and a good alimony settlement. It
is Pluto 's rulership of Scorpio's side that can feel emotional satisfaction by 'destroying another', and/or bear an emotional grudge, andfeel consumed by revenge. Yet also experience the freedom of liberation that 'final death' of a personally traumatising situation can bringwith it.
I am biased, of course.
Taurus hides its emotional side, so can learn from Scorpio to show it and find appreciation in other than merely physical awareness upon
the senses. Similarly Scorpio's torrent of emotions can be eased and tamed when seeing the physical 'facts of life' that Taurus presents.....
like it or not.

Dear Friesiangal,
We are so lucky to have you here, across the forums, to share your depth of astrological knowledge. Whatperfect and, yet, hilarious, descriptions of the two signs and their polarised differences. I read your posts manytimes, literally, grinning from ear to ear. Thank you very much for your contribution to this thread, which I've
found so helpful. I am intrigued; why did you say you are biased, concerning Scorpio, are you Scorpio,
yourself?

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Re: Compatibility of Opposing Sun Signs: Discuss« Reply #21 - on: 27.05.2019 at 17:18 [UT+1] »Quote from mariebrizard on 26.05.2019 at 14:09 [UT+1]:
Hi Nancy,
Well, the synastrical meaning of opposing Sun signs is that they can shape their future together pretty well, since they both have what
each other lacks…
I have a good example at work, where the lady is a Libra sun and the husband an Aries sun...however they have been together for theirwhole life (they are childhood sweethearts) probably because they share the same ascendant and the same moon...she gets desperate,
the lady, but we know how possessive Libra is… but I did tell her once, when she went through one of those relationship crisis that she
regularly goes through. I told her that her relationship is fine, because, after all, opposing Sun signs always carry the shadow of theother,so what can feel safer than knowing that your husband/wife does your dirty work?
Every time friends mention a Sun Sign opposition in their relationships it interests me...and to be honest there are a lot... so there must
be some truth to it, wouldn t you say?
Not met many Taurus-Scorpio pairings...the one I know are relatives and they are quite happy...so happy that the Taurus husband
mentions often that he is quite happy to have married the Scorpio lady...sort of confirming that spending their lives together makes sense
and not mentioning physical compatibility or friendship issues...then again Taurus is very conscious of stability and the long term...cannot
live without it really, Taurus loves definite things...
Love, Marie

Dear Marie,
I love your post, thank you, very much. Taurus does love definite things and, I think, this appeals to Scorpio's
need for loyalty. I think the frustration for Scorpio may come from her need to walk on the dark side combinedwith the Taurean desire to use the bright. Of course, it's not necessarily a bad thing because too much dark side
isn't good for anyone.

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