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Penguin Trauma
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Voice/speech« on: 13.01.2009 at 16:28 [UT] »Seeing as I'm losing mine

, due to a developing nasty cough, it got me thinking.

What is your voice like? According to your chart?
Do you speak loudly, or quietly? Fast or slow? High-pitched, or low? Do you ramble on, or do you speak.
matter. of. factly.
How about laughter too? Is yours giggly, or bellowy?
Obviously, Mercury has a big part to play here. I have Mercury in Pisces, so I speak, and laugh, quite quietly.
But it's conjunct Venus, and I've been told that I speak in 'melodic' tones.
Also, my Mercury is trine Mars and Uranus, so
Ispeakveryfastwithoutpausingpeopledon'tunderstandmesoIhavetorepeateverything.
Made worse by Sagittarius rising, as I think your Rising contributes too, more than the Sun. I can be quiteanimated at times, when I'm enthusiastic about something.
So, how about you?
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Co-rulersFTW

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #1 - on: 13.01.2009 at 21:13 [UT] »C in mute sign d, combust, but separating and VOC. Mutually received by F in c. Traditional ruler of f asc
and c MC. Third also in mute h, J dignified, but E in 12th mD. People always tell me to raise my meek,slightly feminine voice.

But when I do...

lol

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SUNinLEO
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #2 - on: 13.01.2009 at 21:53 [UT] »i dont understand, what planet, sign or house definitions voice?

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Jupiter's Daughter

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #3 - on: 13.01.2009 at 23:39 [UT] »Merc(2) in cappy with scorp rising, merc sextile neptune (12), trine pluto(9) and opp moon(8) in a cradle
formation.
I have a good "phone" or "radio" voice, when i'm in professional mode, and sometimes I can be a compelling
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speaker. I address groups frequently, and usually what I say just "flows" - I review my material beforehand but
don't use notes when I speak. sometimes it comes out kinda like I'm channelling. I don't' like idle chatter. I'mvery direct.
and other times my sag sun -hoof-in-mouth disease shows up. Not s much now that I'm older, though

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #4 - on: 13.01.2009 at 23:50 [UT] »my C in d4th (29 degree) m Ae 5th.
qF, nB, pE, oJ. and o AC...

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Gender:my voice is normal... i talk loud, sometimes slow but often fast... and i laugh very funny.... and i always change
laugh...... i dont kno how and why but my laugh is always changeable.

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Pixie Vixen

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #5 - on: 13.01.2009 at 23:55 [UT] »I think fire signs in general can have rather loud/very distinct laughs!

I love my e friend's laugh- she has dC in the 11th though;Anyway, my aC is in a stellium in the 8th (BCD) and is also mM!

I've been told that I have a rather girly sounding voice but loud when necessary- and of course my laugh is one
to be remembered I think!

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SUNinLEO
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #6 - on: 13.01.2009 at 23:57 [UT] »upload your voices... will be great...

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Jupiter's Daughter

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #7 - on: 14.01.2009 at 00:10 [UT] »My friend's child said I have a "witchy" laugh - must be all those plutonic overtones. it's kind of a "Hag Cackle"

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Neptune's StormEx Member

Re: Voice/speech« Reply #8 - on: 14.01.2009 at 01:11 [UT] »C/O indicates very fast speech (I have this aspect and I've been told throughout my whole life that I speak
too fast) whileC/G indicate slow speech. Also look to any placements in the 3rd or in Gemini.
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Mrs Emu

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #9 - on: 14.01.2009 at 01:19 [UT] »Quote from Penguin Trauma on 13.01.2009 at 16:28 [UT]:

Obviously, Mercury has a big part to play here. I have Mercury in Pisces, so I speak, and laugh, quite quietly.

I have C (and A) in l and I speak, laugh and sneeze very loudly. Some people sneeze with a tiny sound, yeteveryone within kilometres can hear me sneeze.
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Co-rulersFTW
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #10 - on: 14.01.2009 at 05:09 [UT] »Quote from SUNinLEO on 13.01.2009 at 23:50 [UT]:C in d4th (29 degree) m Ae 5th.
qF, nB, pE, oJ. and o AC...
mymy voice is normal... i talk loud, sometimes slow but often fast... and i laugh very funny.... and i always change laugh...... i dont kno
how and why but my laugh is always changeable.

I've noticed that C aspecting F does tend to make for a louder voice if it is in a water sign (all water signs are"mute," Taurus is also a bit quiet I think).
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Bo Sundin

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #11 - on: 14.01.2009 at 06:42 [UT] »1st house k C m 1st house lA but makes no other aspects. b B 3rd house r c E and p j rising m O.
I speak slowly but I've always had good vocab. and apparently used a lot of local slang. I don't really talk muchat all but when I get carried away on a topic I get incredibly loud and a lot harder to understand.
I've got what people call a belly laugh, sort of rumbles up from my stomach and chest rather than actually
coming out of my mouth if that makes sense it's loud though for a 'belly chuckle'.
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Krista ShippMember

Re: Voice/speech« Reply #12 - on: 14.01.2009 at 06:56 [UT] »Quote from Jupiter's Daughter on 14.01.2009 at 00:10 [UT]:My friend's child said I have a "witchy" laugh - must be all those plutonic overtones. it's kind of a "Hag Cackle"

I love it !!!!
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Gender:I am fairly soft spoken- but when I get riled- that CmJ takes over.. it's kinda cool- like SO unexpected !
'Always keep them a little off their feet'
Light,
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Night Sky

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #13 - on: 14.01.2009 at 07:36 [UT] »It´s not how you say it but what you say.

Or was that the other way round....?

I got the C Q Ascendant aspect, though House 3 is packed and N opposed half of it from c, so you can tell I
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Gender:got pain in my voice, like speaking is something I´d rather not do... do you see what I´m saying, a bit like theGodfather.

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Zen88
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #14 - on: 14.01.2009 at 09:08 [UT] »I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful
melodic voices - I guess when venus is involved. Is this true?
Will people share their experience, please?
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SUNinLEO

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #15 - on: 14.01.2009 at 09:15 [UT] »Quote from Co-rulersFTW on 14.01.2009 at 05:09 [UT]:
Quote from SUNinLEO on 13.01.2009 at 23:50 [UT]:C in d4th (29 degree) m Ae 5th.
qF, nB, pE, oJ. and o AC...
my

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Gender:my voice is normal... i talk loud, sometimes slow but often fast... and i laugh very funny.... and i always change
laugh...... i dont kno how and why but my laugh is always changeable.
I've noticed that

C aspecting F does tend to make for a louder voice if it is in a water sign (all water signs are "mute," Taurus is also a

bit quiet I think).

my F is in c but 2d house......
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indianaheelwhite
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #16 - on: 14.01.2009 at 10:00 [UT] »Quote from SUNinLEO on 14.01.2009 at 09:15 [UT]:
Quote from Co-rulersFTW on 14.01.2009 at 05:09 [UT]:
Quote from SUNinLEO on 13.01.2009 at 23:50 [UT]:C in d4th (29 degree) m Ae 5th.
qF, nB, pE, oJ. and o AC...
my

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my voice is normal... i talk loud, sometimes slow but often fast... and i laugh very funny.... and i always
change laugh...... i dont kno how and why but my laugh is always changeable.
I've noticed that

C aspecting F does tend to make for a louder voice if it is in a water sign (all water signs are "mute,"

Taurus is also a bit quiet I think).
myF is in c but 2d house......

Dear member ,There can be many causes of lost speech or no speach some are ( Natural) or born withand some are cirumstantial with the Native. If you have a Taurus Ascendant in your Birth chart and Planets
Mercury+ south node ( Ketu ) + Neptune are located in the Ist house of your birth chart and the ascendant
hous is aspecte by Mars in the 7th hous along with saturn + moon conjunct in the second housof the natal
chart. Then it is seen that the native does lose her speech due to trauma in motor accident suddenly byshockwhen his or her life is saved. Even other wise the child does suffer speach loss after birth due bad
influence of these stars in the chart. Because Taurus rules the body parts like face, throat, ears , scrotum, neck,thyroid glands, vocal chord, base of brain and cervical vertebaeand Mars direct adverse aspect along withsaturn and moon, the native is bound to lose his speech because of damage to vocal chord. paul
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AstroRockRoll

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #17 - on: 14.01.2009 at 11:36 [UT] »Very fast, but that's normal in my part of the country
Soft spoken, I hate ppl who speak out loudBut sometimes when I whisper, i'm heard more then when I speak out loud...

Cd pG
I don't have a refined laugh at all... Or I laugh very quietly, or I make like animal noises
Or I try to have an evil laugh... but most ppl find him cute... so mission failed
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SUNinLEO
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #18 - on: 14.01.2009 at 12:08 [UT] »Quote from indianaheelwhite@yahoo.com on 14.01.2009 at 10:00 [UT]:
Quote from SUNinLEO on 14.01.2009 at 09:15 [UT]:
Quote from Co-rulersFTW on 14.01.2009 at 05:09 [UT]:
Quote from SUNinLEO on 13.01.2009 at 23:50 [UT]:

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Gender:C in d4th (29 degree) m Ae 5th.
qF, nB, pE, oJ. and o AC...
mymy voice is normal... i talk loud, sometimes slow but often fast... and i laugh very funny....
and i always change laugh...... i dont kno how and why but my laugh is always changeable.
I've noticed that

C aspecting F does tend to make for a louder voice if it is in a water sign (all water signs

are "mute," Taurus is also a bit quiet I think).
myF is in c but 2d house......

Dear member ,There can be many causes of lost speech or no speach some are ( Natural) or born with and some are cirumstantial with the Native. If you
have a Taurus Ascendant in your Birth chart and Planets Mercury+ south node ( Ketu ) + Neptune are located in the Ist house of your birthchart and the ascendant hous is aspecte by Mars in the 7th hous along with saturn + moon conjunct in the second housof the natal chart.
Then it is seen that the native does lose her speech due to trauma in motor accident suddenly by shockwhen his or her life is saved. Evenother wise the child does suffer speach loss after birth due bad influence of these stars in the chart. Because Taurus rules the body parts
like face, throat, ears , scrotum, neck, thyroid glands, vocal chord, base of brain and cervical vertebaeand Mars direct adverse aspect
along with saturn and moon, the native is bound to lose his speech because of damage to vocal chord. paul

oh no..... i wish i'll n't lose my speech.....
i have nothing in 1st house..... ascendant and mars a etc.......
AC aqDc3d
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Penguin Trauma

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #19 - on: 14.01.2009 at 13:01 [UT] »It's weird but me and my sister have the same sounding voice! We did a recording, and neither of us could tell
one from the other! Only difference is, my sister has fC square G, j Rising, so she speaks in a very sharp,
clear, matter-of-fact way, almost professional sounding. Every. vowel. and. consonant. is. pronounced. very.
clearly.
With me, I talk so fast that I either miss out words altogether, or get words mixed up blahlalalala, so I have tostart again!
My partner, C conjunct A in k, also speaks very fast, and what with a regional accent too (North England) so
us London 'Southern Fairies' as he calls us, can't understand him! He's quite quietly spoken though, strong D
in his chart - except for when he laughs. e Rising of course, C opposite ASC. It's like a big loud belly laugh,like Santa Claus on crack
Trying to figure out my Dad's one though. He has hC, with d Rising, so you would think that he would bequietly spoken. But he actually has a very loud, booming, almost thunderous voice! It's like "HELLOOOO! HOW

ARE YOU??!

" Is that unusual for a d rising? Or is that his CD in the 5th house 'talking'?

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Penguin Trauma
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #20 - on: 14.01.2009 at 13:13 [UT] »Quote:
I think fire signs in general can have rather loud/very distinct laughs

Yeah that's true!

!

My aAC, with e Rising friend has a very loud voice, and an even louder laugh! She

literally shouts rather than talks, you could hear her from miles away!
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I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful melodic voices - I guess whenvenus is involved. Is this true?

I have noticed that too, it's like they are almost singing in a way! Noticed that with my Mum, C conjunct I in
2nd house g. And also my niece, Ag, but she has CD in h, so it's a tone deeper. They both have very soft
sweet voices.
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Jeanette

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #21 - on: 14.01.2009 at 13:16 [UT] »Cd1st oEoI. I have a deep, low, quiet voice.

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Korallia
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #22 - on: 14.01.2009 at 14:48 [UT] »Quote from Zen88 on 14.01.2009 at 09:08 [UT]:
I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful melodic voices - I guess whenvenus is involved. Is this true?
Will people share their experience, please?

A cousin of mine is Taurus with Venus in Taurus as well and moon in Libra and his voice is not at all melodic. He
has Virgo rising and a conj. Pluto, Uranus, Mars on the Asc that gives him a harsh and sometimes aggressive
tone of voice. I believe that Merc. is the cerrebrial ability of speech, our vocabulary but the sound of speech is
Venus, which rules the throat and singing and the asc and all the planets affecting it. I have Libra rising and
Venus in Virgo in the 12th and a conj. of Neptune, Mars and Sun in Scorpio in the first house. My voice is a
mixture of all that. It is not melodic but it is polite most of the time and it depends on my mood and isdifferent with every mood (Neptune and 12th). When I am melancholic I speek slowly and people can hardly
hear me. When I am in a good mood I speek and laugh loudly and enthousiasticly and sometimes I speek very
fast (Sun, Mars).
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Ed Falis

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #23 - on: 14.01.2009 at 15:04 [UT] »Quote from Zen88 on 14.01.2009 at 09:08 [UT]:
I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful melodic voices - I guess whenvenus is involved. Is this true?
Will people share their experience, please?

I have a rising 5 planet stellium in Libra. My wife often comments on my "radio announcer" voice. So maybe
there's something to that.

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Re: Voice/speechsirius1
Ex Member« Reply #24 - on: 14.01.2009 at 15:26 [UT] »I have C in g in 5 with D in h in 5 , I have apparently a warm and calming sexy voice.
sing also.

dolcite tones. I

I'm quite often mimicked which used to upset me but I now see it as a compliment like Ed mentioned here I
also have a good voice for radio/tv
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Krista ShippMember« Reply #25 - on: 14.01.2009 at 16:24 [UT] »Quote from Ed Falis on 14.01.2009 at 15:04 [UT]:
Quote from Zen88 on 14.01.2009 at 09:08 [UT]:
I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful melodic voices I guess when venus is involved. Is this true?
Will people share their experience, please?

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I have a rising 5 planet stellium in Libra. My wife often comments on my "radio announcer" voice. So maybe there's something to that.

Gender:I know a radio personality in the NYC area with that same Libra stellium !!!
I have a feeling your voice can be commanding w/o being loudMy2.
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Ed Falis
Ex Member« Reply #26 - on: 14.01.2009 at 16:30 [UT] »Gravitas and all that

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AstroRockRoll6000

Ex Member« Reply #27 - on: 14.01.2009 at 19:21 [UT] »Quote from Penguin Trauma on 14.01.2009 at 13:01 [UT]:
Trying to figure out my Dad's one though. He has

hC, with d Rising, so you would think that he would be quietly spoken. But heactually has a very loud, booming, almost thunderous voice! It's like " HELLOOOO! HOW ARE YOU??!
a" Is that unusual ford rising? Or is that his CD in the 5th house 'talking'?

C connected to F?
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Penguin Trauma
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #28 - on: 14.01.2009 at 19:35 [UT] »Quote from AstroRockRoll6000 on 14.01.2009 at 19:21 [UT]:
Quote from Penguin Trauma on 14.01.2009 at 13:01 [UT]:
Trying to figure out my Dad's one though. He has

hC, with d Rising, so you would think that he would be quietly

spoken. But he actually has a very loud, booming, almost thunderous voice! It's like " HELLOOOO! HOW ARE

YOU??!

" Is that unusual for ad rising? Or is that his CD in the 5th house 'talking'?

C connected to F?

Oddly enough, no! Me and my sis did agree that he does have a very 'Jupiterian/Zeus-like' voice though!
Mercury only makes a trine to Pluto in d. He has gF in the 3rd house though, trines his Moon and Saturn ink.
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scorpio_me

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #29 - on: 14.01.2009 at 19:42 [UT] »Linda Goodman says Scorpios are meant to have very sexy voices. I have been told I do, and also that I have adirty laugh, whatever that means.

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #30 - on: 14.01.2009 at 21:30 [UT] »My voice changes; apparently it's about mid-range, but it fluctuates otherwise... the speed, the decible, thetexture (between... fluidy... and... gravelly. I sound like a dodgy Science experiment). Hell, even the way I
pronounce words can alter... and I mush words together or I pronounce them all separately... or I'll, like... it

Posts: 90chops and changes, that's what it boils down to. It all sounds like me (whatever that is), but... I'm unreliable,
generally... voice even has to go along with this.
I have Mars in Gemini, that possibly has something to do with it.

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bleue22

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #31 - on: 14.01.2009 at 22:49 [UT] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 14.01.2009 at 16:24 [UT]:
Quote from Ed Falis on 14.01.2009 at 15:04 [UT]:
Quote from Zen88 on 14.01.2009 at 09:08 [UT]:
I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful
melodic voices - I guess when venus is involved. Is this true?
Will people share their experience, please?

I have a rising 5 planet stellium in Libra. My wife often comments on my "radio announcer" voice. So maybe there's
something to that.

I know a radio personality in the NYC area with that same Libra stellium !!!
I have a feeling your voice can be commanding w/o being loudMy2.
Kristathis is all very funny, I have

CmA in 12th in g
rFf is the tightest aspecttJh in 2nd the second tightest..
I usually tend to fade in the crowd, I have a voice that is usually very flexible.
I can scream like a man (I will perfectly imitate eminem!
)I can also make a very suave voice etc...
I think that overall most people would not really notice my voice among other people's.
I am either completely ignored or everyone listens..
Oh yeah! I do get the radio announcer comment too!
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Ex Member« Reply #32 - on: 15.01.2009 at 00:00 [UT] »Quote from Penguin Trauma on 14.01.2009 at 19:35 [UT]:
Quote from AstroRockRoll6000 on 14.01.2009 at 19:21 [UT]:
Quote from Penguin Trauma on 14.01.2009 at 13:01 [UT]:
Trying to figure out my Dad's one though. He has

hC, with d Rising, so you would think that he would bequietly spoken. But he actually has a very loud, booming, almost thunderous voice! It's like
" HELLOOOO! HOW ARE YOU??!

" Is that unusual for ad rising? Or is that his CD in the

5th house 'talking'?

C connected to F?
Oddly enough, no! Me and my sis did agree that he does have a very 'Jupiterian/Zeus-like' voice though!
Mercury only makes a trine to Pluto ind. He has gF in the 3rd house though, trines his Moon and Saturn in k.

may be second house and third house have to deal with voice and speech also
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Pixie Vixen

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #33 - on: 15.01.2009 at 00:21 [UT] »Quote from Penguin Trauma on 14.01.2009 at 13:13 [UT]:

Yeah that's true!

My

aAC, with e Rising friend has a very loud voice, and an even louder laugh! She literally shouts rather thantalks, you could hear her from miles away!

It is very amusing to get a fire sun signed person to get into a fit of giggles for sure! When I was going toschool with my friend, we'd giggle and laugh so loudly people would stop and stare- oh, my old iA friend andI used to shout random things to each other in sing-song voice across the hallway- fun times!

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #34 - on: 15.01.2009 at 05:11 [UT] »I'm quiet, extremely laid back.(C12th) I can have an extremely soothing voice; could put my kids to sleep in
30 seconds with song(only draw-back was if my husband was in the room- he fell asleep too!
)
Definitely can be firm and demanding in tone when it's warranted. I smile more then I laugh(reserved I guess).

I most definitely can talk though! I've been told I talk muy rapido! I have six planets in hyper air, so I'm sure
I can get quite animated. I have had to consciously make the effort to slow it down over the years, but mythoughts move so quickly sometimes my mouth even has a hard time keeping up. I have to be very
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Gender:comfortable to be 'talky' though.(security thing) I am never, ever, ever loud! (I have sensitive hearing and also
an aversion for loud people) I can become sensory overlaoded quite easily with loudness.

dC12th, 6 planets in air, CoO(3rd) what I do say is often either really odd, or really out there(spirituallydeep)...or both!
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #35 - on: 15.01.2009 at 05:22 [UT] »Quote from Penguin Trauma on 13.01.2009 at 16:28 [UT]:
Seeing as I'm losing mine

, due to a developing nasty cough, it got me thinking.

What is your voice like? According to your chart?
Do you speak loudly, or quietly? Fast or slow? High-pitched, or low? Do you ramble on, or do you speak. matter. of. factly.
How about laughter too? Is yours giggly, or bellowy?
Obviously, Mercury has a big part to play here. I have Mercury in Pisces, so I speak, and laugh, quite quietly.
But it's conjunct Venus, and I've been told that I speak in 'melodic' tones.
Also, my Mercury is trine Mars and Uranus, so Ispeakveryfastwithoutpausingpeopledon'tunderstandmesoIhavetorepeateverything.
Made worse by Sagittarius rising, as I think your Rising contributes too, more than the Sun. I can be quite animated at times, when I'menthusiastic about something.
So, how about you?

I hate the sound of my voice.
I try not to talk much.
I don't like talking on the phone unless I Have to because I can't stand my voice.
I think it is harsh and unrefined.
Sometimes I would like to be silent, and I have fantasised about coming up with a good excuse to do this. One
that I wouldn't need to explain.

C Ist house
Ca
AmC
CnJ
CpI
CpG
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #36 - on: 15.01.2009 at 05:26 [UT] »I get overwhelemd by too much loudness as well. It grates on my nerves, makes me anxious and upset. I am
always told to speak up or slow down when speaking in public, but I've learned to project my voice in an eventone. Nervousness will show up in my voice right away. I have a very girly voice which has been called sexy but I
don't see it I just think I sound very young - sometimes its a bit airy. I can carry a tune but I'm no singer forsure...but I think if I train my voice I could do it. I can also sound very humourless sometime but that's mysense of humour...you can' t tell I'm joking when I am which really makes my friends crack up. My speaking
style does change sometime..my laugh is pretty high-pitched but when I'm laughing reallyhard it's mute. Really
good at mimicry and accents, I can imitate voices well - my dad gets a kick out of it.
I have my C Rx in retrograde in g in the 1st house...very shy to speak up in large groups but I always feel I
have to...
Someone mentioned the 2nd house has an effect also...my D, O, and I is in the 2nd, AC and A in g in the
12th house. I think the AC would affect speaking style as well would it not?
People look at me as if they expect me to speak well since I have that impression but I sometimes ramble andlose my point, trying to express too much at once and not in a straight line (I think in a really abstract way).
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #37 - on: 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT] »Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I am most especially good at my

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #38 - on: 15.01.2009 at 06:37 [UT] »Quote from Zen88 on 14.01.2009 at 09:08 [UT]:
I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful melodic voices - I guess whenvenus is involved. Is this true?
Will people share their experience, please?

Libra Rising, Bc C in b. I have a soft, delicate, raspy voice (I don't smoke...it's just naturally that way). I
have been called soulful. My job requires me to be on the phone constantly and everyday at least someone
compliments me on my voice. Usually people can't even hear what I say when I am on the phone yet alone inperson with them though so I have to speak louder than I do naturally. I sing very harmoniously but I don't
have enough confidence in myself to become a singer. When I talk too much my throat becomes aggravated.
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #39 - on: 15.01.2009 at 07:12 [UT] »PT, that sounds more like his 5th house influence...
I also used to be accused of speaking waaaay too fast. Not only from the East Coast originally, where we all
speak fast because no conversation lasts longer than a taxi cab ride, and we have to speak fast to get every
word in edgewise, but also have C/O m in e, so I am obnoxious as hell and talk mostly about myself, as I am
doing now. A perfect foil for self-aggrandizement, all this self-referential material.
Plus I have i rising, and so... not only do I talk about myself, but I also love to talk about Big Ideas, as
pompously and loudly as can be. I have been known to use bad words in public places, loudly, so as to offend
anyone within earshot, which is often the entire restaurant.
Let's look at the houses as well, shall we? (Said with great pomposity and self-aggrandizement). Mine (again
referring back to ME, and MY CO conjunction) are in the 8th, so not only am I obnoxious about myself andmy self-importance, I also like to tell the Truth, and to Dig Deep into YOUR psyche to find out about YOU.
I also have a deep and resonant voice, pretty weird for a woman, but I'm an alto when I sing. I have been told
I have a lovely singing voice, but people who say that are frequently trying to get me into bed, so who knows?
(This entire post brought to you by the wacko CO conjunction and the 8th house, which likes to bring sex
into every conversation if at all possible and to shock, inspire, and amaze.)
Ah, astrology. It answers SO many questions...
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #40 - on: 15.01.2009 at 09:16 [UT] »I also talk alot, and connect most things to my experience Cm asc. It's so annoying and because it's in j
it's with all seriousness lol.

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #41 - on: 15.01.2009 at 12:29 [UT] »Quote from Knickers on 15.01.2009 at 05:22 [UT]:
Quote from Penguin Trauma on 13.01.2009 at 16:28 [UT]:
Seeing as I'm losing mine

, due to a developing nasty cough, it got me thinking.

What is your voice like? According to your chart?
Do you speak loudly, or quietly? Fast or slow? High-pitched, or low? Do you ramble on, or do you speak. matter. of. factly.
How about laughter too? Is yours giggly, or bellowy?
Obviously, Mercury has a big part to play here. I have Mercury in Pisces, so I speak, and laugh, quite quietly.
But it's conjunct Venus, and I've been told that I speak in 'melodic' tones.
Also, my Mercury is trine Mars and Uranus, so
Ispeakveryfastwithoutpausingpeopledon'tunderstandmesoIhavetorepeateverything.
Made worse by Sagittarius rising, as I think your Rising contributes too, more than the Sun. I can be quite animated attimes, when I'm enthusiastic about something.
So, how about you?

I hate the sound of my voice.
I try not to talk much.
I don't like talking on the phone unless I Have to because I can't stand my voice.
I think it is harsh and unrefined.
Sometimes I would like to be silent, and I have fantasised about coming up with a good excuse to do this. One that I wouldn't need to
explain.

C Ist house
Ca
AmC
CnJ
CpI
CpG
Knickers I hate being on the phone too... when it's a private, not professional conversation, i try to make it asashort as possible, even with my gf... cause if we live in the same city, why bother to phone long to each other
if we could meet up in person...
I send texts a lot much to annoyance of everyone but i can structure my thoughts better in a text then on thephone
And I also think, if I say everything I want to say on the phone, why should we meet then in half an hour...
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #42 - on: 15.01.2009 at 14:00 [UT] »Horrible horrible voice, I only realise when I've been on tv for something or other. I sound like a chav, like anidiot.

C j 6th house pB rD pG oJ pN and o MC
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #43 - on: 15.01.2009 at 14:38 [UT] »Quote from Chaos6012 on 15.01.2009 at 12:29 [UT]:... cause if we live in the same city, why bother to phone long to each other if we could meet up in person...
I send texts a lot much to annoyance of everyone but i can structure my thoughts better in a text then on the phone
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #44 - on: 15.01.2009 at 14:39 [UT] »I have Mercury retro in Sco in the 12th with no major aspect except antiscia to Jupiter. My voice sounds ok andI have a pleasant voice as I am told. I think my speed is average as I haven't noticed an extreme and it's neverbeen brought to my attention that I speak fast or slow. I think a lot more than I speak what I think, and I
would consider myself pensive. One thing though is that it's hard to feel my speech coming from my stomachrather than just my throat and there's also some anxiety with speaking too. And well, so far in life, my major
illness has been lung related. And also, I more often giggle.

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #45 - on: 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT] »Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I am most especially good at my British accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent ) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way to describe
myusual laugh. It's a little low and in my chest..

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #46 - on: 15.01.2009 at 17:49 [UT] »Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-

Posts: 1405

I'd say I could have written that.

I am most especially good at my British

accent-Gender:Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way to describe myusual laugh. It's a little low

and in my chest..

I have this image in my head that all Americans think we talk as they show in Family Guy (the one where theEnglish guy buys the bar and they do a My Fair Lady spoof with his daugter and Stewie)!
As my voice thing was way too depressing, I will add my favourite voice (no matter what accent) is David
Tennant. But then he's lovely in every way! He has mercury in taurus.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGzSz0KyNI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=egkOuF2e19U (that's his normal accent)
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #47 - on: 15.01.2009 at 18:03 [UT] »Quote from mstray on 15.01.2009 at 17:49 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I am most especially goodat my British accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way to describe myusual laugh.

It's a little low and in my chest..

I have this image in my head that all Americans think we talk as they show in Family Guy (the one where the English guy buys the bar
and they do a My Fair Lady spoof with his daugter and Stewie)!
As my voice thing was way too depressing, I will add my favourite voice (no matter what accent) is David Tennant. But then he's lovely inevery way! He has mercury in taurus.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGzSz0KyNI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=egkOuF2e19U (that's his normal accent)

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #48 - on: 16.01.2009 at 03:49 [UT] »Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I am most especially good at my British

accent-Truegemini,

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You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way to describe myusual laugh. It's a little low

and in my chest..

Well I think any laughter is pretty hard to explain. I would be clueless to explain my own as well...but low andin my chest sounds pretty close...oh bloody hell, it's much too hard for me to type in an áccent...I think I'd much prefer to speak itBack to top
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #49 - on: 16.01.2009 at 03:50 [UT] »Quote from mstray on 15.01.2009 at 17:49 [UT]:

I have this image in my head that all Americans think we talk as they show in Family Guy (the one where the English guy buys the bar
and they do a My Fair Lady spoof with his daugter and Stewie)!

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #50 - on: 16.01.2009 at 04:08 [UT] »Quote from truegemini62073 on 16.01.2009 at 03:49 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I am most especially goodat my British accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way to describe myusual laugh.

It's a little low and in my chest..

Well I think any laughter is pretty hard to explain. I would be clueless to explain my own as well...but low and in my chest sounds pretty
close...oh bloody hell, it's much too hard for me to type in an áccent...I think I'd much prefer to speak it-

We must be voice twins lol...(lol-ing in my head now) My moon is in Gemini just so you know
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #51 - on: 16.01.2009 at 16:23 [UT] »Quote from SuzAnna on 16.01.2009 at 04:08 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 16.01.2009 at 03:49 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I am mostespecially good at my British accent-Posts: 4466
Gender:Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way to describe

myusual laugh. It's a little low and in my chest..

Well I think any laughter is pretty hard to explain. I would be clueless to explain my own as well...but low and in my chestsounds pretty close...oh bloody hell, it's much too hard for me to type in an áccent...I think I'd much prefer to speak it-

We must be voice twins lol...(lol-ing in my head now) My moon is in Gemini just so you know...smiling...no laughter... yet-

The moon thing- might explain some of our similarities-

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #52 - on: 17.01.2009 at 09:33 [UT] »Quote from truegemini62073 on 16.01.2009 at 16:23 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 16.01.2009 at 04:08 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 16.01.2009 at 03:49 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I

am most especially good at my British accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way

to describe myusual laugh. It's a little low and in my chest..

Well I think any laughter is pretty hard to explain. I would be clueless to explain my own as well...but low
and in my chest sounds pretty close...oh bloody hell, it's much too hard for me to type in an áccent...I think I'd much prefer to speak it-

We must be voice twins lol...(lol-ing in my head now) My moon is in Gemini just so you know...smiling...no laughter... yet- The moon thing- might explain some of our similarities-

Yep it could, plus C in my 1st.
So what's the general consensus on what rules voice? and what rules speech?
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #53 - on: 17.01.2009 at 10:56 [UT] »Quote from SuzAnna on 17.01.2009 at 09:33 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 16.01.2009 at 16:23 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 16.01.2009 at 04:08 [UT]:
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Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
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Suzanna-

Posts: 4466
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I'd say I could have written

I am most especially good at my British accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't

find a way to describe myusual laugh. It's a little low and in my chest..

Well I think any laughter is pretty hard to explain. I would be clueless to explain my own as
well...but low and in my chest sounds pretty close...oh bloody hell, it's much too hard for me to type in an áccent...I think I'd much prefer tospeak it-We must be voice twins lol...(lol-ing in my head now) My moon is in Gemini just so you know...smiling...no laughter... yet- The moon thing- might explain some of our similarities-

Yep it could, plus

C in my 1st.

So what's the general consensus on what rules voice? and what rules speech?

Doesn't D rule voice? Ruler of the throat isn't it? Certainly C and moon will effect our communication styles.
. . I'd never really given it that much thought before and not sure I've come across too much literature.
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #54 - on: 18.01.2009 at 00:52 [UT] »I have a question, which might not belong in this thread. But how about the sound of the voice/voices in yourhead?
What does the voice in your head sound like?

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #55 - on: 18.01.2009 at 02:49 [UT] »I can't stand the sound of my voice, i've never liked it since the day i first heard it. I think it sounds camp andlame. But that's Sun/Saturn being far too harsh on itself because Chiron square Venus 2nd house in Leo
doesn't feel the voice is beautiful enough to sing. Coming from Norf lundun however may accentuate this.
It's not bad for insults though *S* - better to love what you are given and be grateful than attack it.
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #56 - on: 18.01.2009 at 06:46 [UT] »Quote from truegemini62073 on 17.01.2009 at 10:56 [UT]:
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Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughterwritten that.

I'd say I could have

I am most especially good at my British

accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes....I couldn't find a way to describe myusual laugh. It's a little low and inmy chest..

Well I think any laughter is pretty hard to explain. I would be clueless to explain myown as well...but low and in my chest sounds pretty close...oh bloody hell, it's much too hard for me to type in an áccent...I think I'd muchprefer to speak it-

We must be voice twins lol...(lol-ing in my head now) My moon is in Gemini just so you know...smiling...no laughter... yet- The moon thing- might explain some of our similarities-

Yep it could, plus

C in my 1st.

So what's the general consensus on what rules voice? and what rules speech?
Doesn't

D rule voice? Ruler of the throat isn't it? Certainly C and moon will effect our communication styles. . . I'd never really given it

that much thought before and not sure I've come across too much literature.

Oh yeah..moon...lol, I use my hands QUITE A BIT when I'm speaking. I have to remind myself that it distracts
more than it helps sometime.
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #57 - on: 18.01.2009 at 06:47 [UT] »Quote from Night Sky on 18.01.2009 at 00:52 [UT]:
I have a question, which might not belong in this thread. But how about the sound of the voice/voices in your head?
What does the voice in your head sound like?

Love this question. Usually male and authoritative and quite scary
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #58 - on: 18.01.2009 at 12:31 [UT] »Quote from Night Sky on 18.01.2009 at 00:52 [UT]:
I have a question, which might not belong in this thread. But how about the sound of the voice/voices in your head? What does the voice
in your head sound like?

I don't hear him... He/ She is quiet...
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #59 - on: 18.01.2009 at 13:32 [UT] »Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 18:03 [UT]:
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Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:

Posts: 1405
Gender:Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I am mostespecially good at my British accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way to describe

myusual laugh. It's a little low and in my chest..

I have this image in my head that all Americans think we talk as they show in Family Guy (the one where the English guy
buys the bar and they do a My Fair Lady spoof with his daugter and Stewie)!
As my voice thing was way too depressing, I will add my favourite voice (no matter what accent) is David Tennant. But
then he's lovely in every way! He has mercury in taurus.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGzSz0KyNI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=egkOuF2e19U (that's his normal accent)

LOL no no don't worry I only joke! I watch British shows as well..plus I'm Canadian, met a lot seniors who were British immigrants whileworking in a retirement home. I love the accent (s)I know, although I kind of wish we did all speak that nicely!
While I'm here if you watch UK shows my one of my all time favourites is on in the US tonight on adult swim
1am.

The voice in my head is sexy and independent, there's a whole different person in my head not just a voice!
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #60 - on: 25.01.2009 at 15:29 [UT] »CRX o MC I HATE talking in public...but mGmA in Taurus..I somehow manage to come across unstressed eventhough I can feel myself shaking also pJ..maybe I am able to focus and keep control of my voice regardless ofthe situation?
also have been told I have clear and easy to understand speech...even if I get excited and start talking fast r E
in c and oB...I do enjoy singing and am aware that I can hit pitch quite well but limited range...back in the

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in my opinion I have a fairly deep voice that I hate to hear in a recording...still sound like a kid, I think! also I
smile a lot and love to laugh...maybe a little high pitched at times...if I am upset I tend to talk louder...unless I
am in public! I usually talk fairly low and have to remember to speak up any other time..and yes when excited I
do tend to flail the hands about for emphasis..lol

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #61 - on: 27.01.2009 at 15:45 [UT] »Apparently Taurus and Venus rule the voice. Mrcury rules speech.
My boyfriend has Taurus rising, venus m MC - the voice that commands attention

Ai and ruler Fb - big booming voice
He has a VERY DEEP LOUD voice like he has a built in megaphone

and also sings very well

His C is in j so he speaks slowly and deliberately.
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The quality of my voice is very dry.
But I have a very strong Cf and speak very fast, pronouncing everything perfectly.
This is a great thread!

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #62 - on: 27.01.2009 at 15:51 [UT] »I always thought C in b was an aspect of the singer

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #63 - on: 27.01.2009 at 16:05 [UT] »Just checked Beyonce's chart, 5 planet stellium in g including C and D
Would be interesting to do some research on diva style singers and see what the similarities are.

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #64 - on: 27.01.2009 at 16:08 [UT] »Actually i know another 5 stellium in Libra who is a singer too, personally he's what id call rather superficial andself obsessed, but successful. Can spend all day in the studio and come home and sit down and play the entire
set to you live, and then want you to put the headphones on and listen to the studio mix. Hi honey, yourehome...
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #65 - on: 27.01.2009 at 16:23 [UT] »Quote from Lisalu on 27.01.2009 at 16:08 [UT]:
Actually i know another 5 stellium in Libra who is a singer too, personally he's what id call rather superficial and self obsessed, but
successful. Can spend all day in the studio and come home and sit down and play the entire set to you live, and then want you to put theheadphones on and listen to the studio mix. Hi honey, youre home...

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You would hope he sounds good. Thats actually just like Byonce. Maybe all that Libra unbalances themand they fall in love with themselves. Serenading their own ears and everything....

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #66 - on: 27.01.2009 at 16:32 [UT] »Quote from Ulyana on 27.01.2009 at 16:23 [UT]:Maybe all that Libra unbalances them and they fall in love with themselves. Serenading their own ears and everything....

Yup I think you hit the nail on the head there...
I find his music kind of syrupy too. Like, it sounds ok when you first hear it, but it never really grows on you.
Definitely not dark or deep, even though he might like to think hes edgy, hes totally safe...
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #67 - on: 27.01.2009 at 16:40 [UT] »Quote from Lisalu on 27.01.2009 at 16:32 [UT]:
Definitely not dark or deep, even though he might like to think hes edgy, hes totally safe...

Airbrushed Libras, what can you do
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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #68 - on: 27.01.2009 at 21:19 [UT] »Quote from mstray on 18.01.2009 at 13:32 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 18:03 [UT]:
Quote from mstray on 15.01.2009 at 17:49 [UT]:
Quote from SuzAnna on 15.01.2009 at 15:50 [UT]:
Quote from truegemini62073 on 15.01.2009 at 06:21 [UT]:
Suzannaaside from the high pitched laughter-I'd say I could have written that.

I

am most especially good at my British accent-Truegemini,
You don't say? (spoken in British accent) My laugh actually changes ....I couldn't find a way

to describe myusual laugh. It's a little low and in my chest..

I have this image in my head that all Americans think we talk as they show in Family Guy (the one where
the English guy buys the bar and they do a My Fair Lady spoof with his daugter and Stewie)!
As my voice thing was way too depressing, I will add my favourite voice (no matter what accent) is David
Tennant. But then he's lovely in every way! He has mercury in taurus.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGzSz0KyNI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=egkOuF2e19U (that's his normal accent)

LOL no no don't worry I only joke! I watch British shows as well..plus I'm Canadian, met a lot seniors who were British
immigrants while working in a retirement home. I love the accent (s)I know, although I kind of wish we did all speak that nicely!
While I'm here if you watch UK shows my one of my all time favourites is on in the US tonight on adult swim 1am.

Funny thing is, I find that there are a lot of phrases that sounds much better, said in an American accent, rather
than a British one.
Ie: 'Whatever', said in an American accent sounds very pronounced and affirmative, and very Mars-like, 'like,whad-everrr'!
Said in an English accent, just sounds like a dim and stroppy chav, 'Yeah woh-evah!' It sounds so wrong.

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Re: Voice/speech« Reply #69 - on: 28.01.2009 at 05:24 [UT] »Quote from Zen88 on 14.01.2009 at 09:08 [UT]:
I have always understood that people with strong Libras, and Libra moons or Taurus moons have beautiful melodic voices - I guess whenvenus is involved. Is this true?
Will people share their experience, please?

When I do advice work, people often say I love your voice and I cannot sing.
Frankly, I guess it is Mercury trine Neptune, with a wide sextile with my moon.
Venus in first house.
I do not know.
I know of someone with C in j, but with F 0 degrees Libra, people love their voice.

I have read g and b
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