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CelineMembersolar arc effects« on: 16.11.2013 at 06:00 [UT] »What are the effects of solar arc aspects to natal planets? Are they as strong as progressions and transits orless? Do they produce events or are they meant to be more psychological?
When you do chart interpretations how much emphasis do you put on solar arcs?
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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #1 - on: 16.11.2013 at 10:44 [UT] »I would say that Solar arc's are a bit more event oriented, describing qualities of a given period,often with key events associated.
Secondary progressions also often give events, but is more process oriented, with developments inthe psychological realm that may describing more permanent changes in the individuality.
But that may be more theoretical. Key events are changing us as well.
For me for example the progressed moon in secondary progression have since a month or so gone intoaries, after a 2.5 year journey in pisces. I can notice this change in me very noticeable. The pisces period
was very Piscean in many ways even literary which is precisely described in standard astrology texts.
I can feel the aries energy and new initiatives clearly.
Solar arc Saturn have arced about 50 degrees from 19'k to conjunct my aries Sun and Mercury
last two years. It have put some intense pressure on me in areas that are perfectly described by the rulerships
involved in the direction.
In two years solar arc Jupiter will conjunct my MC which will give noticeable results for positive as arcs to angles
are the most powerful (but a correct birthtime is required).
Reinhold Ebertins books and also Noel Tyl have written some good books about Solar arc's.
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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #2 - on: 16.11.2013 at 11:03 [UT] »Thanks Stefan. What orb do you use for solar arcs?

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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #3 - on: 16.11.2013 at 11:12 [UT] »Looking quickly at Prince Williams chart for some key events.

[quoteHaving decided to follow a military career, in October 2005 William attended the four-day Regular
Commissions Board at Westbury in Wiltshire where he underwent selection to judge his suitability to become
an army officer. Having passed selection, William went up to the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst in January2006] [/quote]Entered military academy.
--SA Mars conjunct Jupiter (Jupiter rules his sag ascendant and mars rules his scorpio MC)
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William graduated from Sandhurst on 15 December 2006, the graduation parade being attended by the Queen and the Prince of Wales,
along with other members of the Royal Family. William officially received his commission as a lieutenant at midnight. With his rank
obtained, as "Lieutenant Wales

15 dec 2006
SA Mars conjunction MC(Hard to find a more fitting direction for becoming a professional officer

in military).

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The wedding took place on 29 April 2011

SA Moon square MC(Public event par excellence).

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StefanEx MemberRe: solar arc effects« Reply #4 - on: 16.11.2013 at 11:15 [UT] »Quote from Celine on 16.11.2013 at 11:03 [UT]:Thanks Stefan. What orb do you use for solar arcs?

1 degree orb is what most astrologers use.
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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #5 - on: 17.11.2013 at 12:29 [UT] »Hi Stefan,
Do you consider any harmonious aspects with Solar Arcs or just hard aspects?
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making harmonious aspects like trines etc.

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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #6 - on: 18.11.2013 at 04:32 [UT] »Here's a question for you: I have SA Saturn opposite Mars and next week will also have transitting Saturnsextile Mars, followed by tranistting Jupiter sextile Mars. What would that mean when one aspect is hard andthe other positive? The opposition has been giving me a lot of trouble so I hope the sextiles will help to easethe conflict and lead to a resolution.
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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #7 - on: 18.11.2013 at 04:59 [UT] »Quote from Stefan on 16.11.2013 at 11:12 [UT]:

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The wedding took place on 29 April 2011

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I had SA Moono MC back in October 2012 and nothing happened......assume he had other jolly transits goingon - Do we use the rule of 3's when dealing with Solar Arcs?

**I had SA [ AND PrB in 7th and still emerged without an engagement ring to show for it
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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #8 - on: 18.11.2013 at 08:25 [UT] »Quote from Celine on 18.11.2013 at 04:32 [UT]:
Here's a question for you: I have SA Saturn opposite Mars and next week will also have transitting Saturn sextile Mars, followed bytranistting Jupiter sextile Mars. What would that mean when one aspect is hard and the other positive? The opposition has been giving me
a lot of trouble so I hope the sextiles will help to ease the conflict and lead to a resolution.

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Gender:Celine I'm starting to think Sextiles aren't "strong" enough to create an event as such.
What's the orb of SA Saturn opposite Mars? I've read 1/2 a degree applying and 1/2 a degree separating but
maybe as Stefan suggested a degree either side is OK.

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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #9 - on: 18.11.2013 at 08:30 [UT] »Quote from JustInes on 18.11.2013 at 04:59 [UT]:
Quote from Stefan on 16.11.2013 at 11:12 [UT]:

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The wedding took place on 29 April 2011

SA Moon square MC (Public event par excellence).

o MC back in October 2012 and nothing happened......assume he had other jolly transits going on - Do we use the rule ofI had SA Moon

3's when dealing with Solar Arcs?

**I had SA[ AND PrB in 7th and still emerged without an engagement ring to show for it

Hey Juzzy I spent ages reading through Basil Fearrington's blog on the weekend and he believes you need an
aspect from a transiting outer planet either conjunct an angle or aspecting your Sun or Moon for "a lifechanging event" to happen.

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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #10 - on: 18.11.2013 at 11:50 [UT] »Quote from JustInes on 18.11.2013 at 04:59 [UT]:
Quote from Stefan on 16.11.2013 at 11:12 [UT]:

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The wedding took place on 29 April 2011

SA Moon square MC (Public event par excellence).

oI had SA Moon MC back in October 2012 and nothing happened......assume he had other jolly transits going on - Do we use the rule of
3's when dealing with Solar Arcs?

**I had SA[ AND PrB in 7th and still emerged without an engagement ring to show for it

Sorry about that Justines
I like to look into confirmation in several systems of prognositication.
In this case the secondary progressions are outstanding in it's symbolic power for
Williams marriage 29 apr 2011.
-A secondary progressed new moon trine Jupiter MC.
P NM 27' CAN 120 JU
P VE 0 SU
P VE 120 JU
These are all secondary progressions implying growth and potential for love and marriage.
Especially Progressed Venus exact conjunction with Sun in placidus 7th house is classical.
Casting the Converse progressions we findCon. P JU 0 MC (0'11).
In this case the Solar arc' come in the shadow of the extremely telling secondary progressions for theevent. There is a strong positive focus on the Jupiter MC in his chart in secondaries.
The solar arc directed Moon to his MC is further emphasing a public event.
The MC is in the midpoint of D/E.
Ebertin in COSI says of MC=D/E"the desire to become one with the other in soul and body, entering into sexual relationship, (marriage)"
Andsolar arc B=D/E".....the entering into marriage"
In short Prince Williams MC is extra related to relationship and marriage. The aspects to and activation of thismidpoint gave marriage and subsequently a child.
Below his chart withsolar arcs in the middle wheel and secondary progressions in the outer wheel.

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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #11 - on: 18.11.2013 at 13:01 [UT] »I use Solar Arcs and Progressions as a way of emphasizing a transit, solar return or other return.
A personal example. Pluto is going towards ascendant and venus in transit, Uranus is going towards my moon.
This will start happening next year. In the solar return venus is conjunct pluto, conjuncting my natal
Ascendant/Venus (orb -2). This is happening in the 7th house of the SR while jupiter is in the 1st of the SR andtransiting my natal 7th. Looks a lot like love coming into my life. Also I have a venus return conjunct pluto
three days after my birthday (a venus ruled chart). My SR is moon ruled.
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Gender:SO there I know the year will be venus and moon ruled. Again. Love seems like an option.
Then I start looking at progressions and solar arcs. My progressed moon will conjunct my IC next year, SA
moon the year after that. My SA venus is conjuncting my natal sun (orb -2) at the same time and Uranus has
just crossed my natal Asc.
I think that there will always be multiple things pointing to a certain event or change in life. So I would neverjust use a solar arc to predict something, as I am sure other things will point to it as well. I read somewherethat for something 'big' to happen the 'signs' will come at least in threefold.
When so many transits happen at once and they are showing up in SA or progression as well, an orb of 2 ormaybe even 3 degrees seem fine to me.
Hope this helps.

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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #12 - on: 18.11.2013 at 14:55 [UT] »So transits come first, then progressions and solar arcs? And what about the case, like my example withSaturn, where the transitting planet makes a positive aspect while the SA planet makes a hard one one? Iftransits are more important then my Saturn sextile Mars should help to relieve many of the conflicts caused bySA Saturn opposite Mars. Well I certainly hope so!
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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #13 - on: 18.11.2013 at 15:11 [UT] »Quote from Celine on 18.11.2013 at 14:55 [UT]:So transits come first, then progressions and solar arcs? And what about the case, like my example with Saturn, where the transitting
planet makes a positive aspect while the SA planet makes a hard one one? If transits are more important then my Saturn sextile Mars
should help to relieve many of the conflicts caused by SA Saturn opposite Mars. Well I certainly hope so!

You say in an earlier post you've had a lot of trouble with the opposition, so I can imagine that this will givesome resolutions to the conflicts you have been experiencing. Maybe some highlight in the conflict that you will
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Gender:be able to solve eventually. Especially a jupiter transit will help you learn more about this and give you some'luck' in being able to solve an issue.
I see transits as the main triggers, and SA and progression as something that is a potential, or a lingering
problem/issue. Usually a transit can activate what the potential of the SA/progression tells you. Depending on
what houses this takes place it will act out in various parts in life and here you can also find answers as to how
you can resolve issues or how issues will be resolved. The jupiter sextile mars seems to me as a potential tosolve problems. But also look at you natal jupiter, the house it rules, the house transiting jupiter is ruling aswell as for your natal mars and transiting mars.
I see many people saying, I have not felt this and this SA or progression at all, thing is, imo it's about potentialthat will or will not be activated in certain areas of life due to transits that occur or even people that come into
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Re: solar arc effects« Reply #14 - on: 18.11.2013 at 17:31 [UT] »Hi everyone,
I am just learning about Solar Arks and i find the thread very interesting. Looking at my chart i see that nextyear i will have an exact SA Bm natal MC, also there will be transiting F n natal MC. It seems to me as being
something major. Any ideas of what should i expect?

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