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Aneli
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Psychology and your chart« on: 10.12.2011 at 20:33 [UT] »What in your chart would you say indicates your affinity towards psychology?
For me I d say Moon in Aquarius,3 planets in the 8th and strong Pluto.
I ve actually read there are a lot of air signs in psychology.Coz they like to understand emotions and psyche andcoz they can detach themselves from very emotional situations they make good(but not all ofcourse)psychiatrists.
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Cosmic Traveller

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #1 - on: 10.12.2011 at 23:31 [UT] »I like this question
I'd say for myself it'd be my:
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Gender:h rising and J in the 12th H. also in h
A p O and I
C o O and I
BoJ
I aspecting my entire chart except for B (though the moon does have a 5d sesquisquare to I)

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Aneli
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #2 - on: 11.12.2011 at 01:00 [UT] »Quote from Cosmic Traveller on 10.12.2011 at 23:31 [UT]:
I like this question
I'd say for myself it'd be my:rising andin the 12th H. also in
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h
J
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ApO
I
CoO
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BoJ
I aspecting my entire chart except for B (though the moon does have a 5d sesquisquare to I)
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Gender:Very interesting!Thanks for sharing.I also have moon/Pluto aspect only mine is the trine.

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Ethereal Mountain

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #3 - on: 11.12.2011 at 01:07 [UT] »For me, BmJ in the 10th, definitely, and B is also oC, nN and qI. This I is also part of a 12th housestellium, which I think also contributes to this need to uncover life's mysteries. Also the triangle

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #4 - on: 11.12.2011 at 01:35 [UT] »For me- JmC e- H2 p Fa- H10 m MC...
I have been fascinated with the criminal mind for as long as I can remember...
Ultimately- The elevatedPosts: 15841
Gender:F wins out in my wanting to Believe the best in human nature...

KristaThe A in H1 wants to know answers 'LIKE NOW'~~~~had to learn to modify that one

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #5 - on: 11.12.2011 at 02:53 [UT] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 11.12.2011 at 01:35 [UT]:For me-JmC e- H2 p Fa- H10 m MC...

I have been fascinated with the criminal mind for as long as I can remember...
Ultimately- The elevated

F wins out in my wanting to Believe the best in human nature...

KristaThe

A in H1 wants to know answers 'LIKE NOW'~~~~had to learn to modify that one

Same. What goes on in the heads of the criminally insane is something I've always wondered about.

BmJ, 8th house
CQJ
O (chart ruler) in h , m MC
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #6 - on: 11.12.2011 at 03:55 [UT] »And..The Power of the oratory
Cult Leaders
Evangelists
Conmen- etc etc
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #7 - on: 11.12.2011 at 06:08 [UT] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 11.12.2011 at 03:55 [UT]:
And..The Power of the oratory
Cult Leaders
Evangelists
Conmen- etc etc

SistaKrista-' ChurchOfTheTwinklingLights'

Probably a lot of easy aspects between inner planets/luminaries and the outers. Remember, the outers have to
do with the collective and mass movements, and large groups of people as well as stuff like charisma.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #8 - on: 11.12.2011 at 09:38 [UT] »Some of the finest psychologists I've met (empathetic and intelligent) have air A and water B placements.
But that may only be my own taste as I have water A and air B.
In my case I have H8 l AmC plus H8 k K. In addition k D m Desc from H6 p H3 f J.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #9 - on: 11.12.2011 at 14:00 [UT] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 11.12.2011 at 03:55 [UT]:
And..The Power of the oratory
Cult Leaders

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Conmen- etc etc

SistaKrista-' ChurchOfTheTwinklingLights'

You bring to mind a quality of leaders in general. Some people at work just recently going on and on about
hearing our CEO ( BIG company) speak in person. They were in awe. Some people are so easy
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Chu__
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #10 - on: 12.12.2011 at 06:02 [UT] »Mmm, for me it's not psychology alone: I want to make a career out of marriage and family counseling.
Pluto/Mercury/Moon stellium in 11th house Scorpio trine a 7th house Cancerian Mars. A Capricorn Ascendantalso carries the energy of Uranus and Neptune in the first house - both of which sextile the aforementioned
stellium and oppose Mars. And, of course, a tenth house Scorpio Sun gives ambition to the dream of having
this career.

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Gender:Possibly less important is my 8th house Leo Chiron. Using my own psychological wounds to heal the wounds ofothers. Pallas is right on my Ascendant - denoting a nurturing yet methodical approach to problems.
Not much air in my chart. However, you'll notice that the 7th and 11th houses are very "people" oriented. Mixedwith the nurturing energy of Cancer and psychological energy of Scorpio, it kind of makes sense.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #11 - on: 12.12.2011 at 10:22 [UT] »MC in h, strong water element, strongly aspected J (especially the BJ square). And, perhaps, CnO ... thedesire to explore unusual paths of the mind.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #12 - on: 12.12.2011 at 12:36 [UT] »I'm all airy, mutable 12th house. So have been a bit of an internal explorer and knowledge seeker for as long as
I can remember.
I used to be fascinated by psychology, and also astrology. But in recent years have found it harder and harder
to merge the two. Astrology seems to say; you are what you are, and it was all set into motion from themoment of your birth. Psychology seeks to explain you in terms of your early experiences. The results of which,it seems to me, we cannot change with our will, unless the universe allows it.
My interest has veered into neurology and genetics; or how our genetic neurological make-up controls our
behaviour. This is more in line with astrology to me; we inherit our personality through our parents, under
direction from the universe.
I think psychology as a social science is at the start of it's death throws...they are discovering every day how wereally have so little control over how we react to our experiences, who we are or how we behave, but are more
like puppets controlled by our hormones, brain chemicals, and other juices...on a trajectory that we are mostly
oblivious of.
The conscious mind is the tip of the iceberg, and we flatter ourselves by believng we are incontrol of the show.
Don't shoot me! I'm just an ideas person.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #13 - on: 12.12.2011 at 13:33 [UT] »Honestly I dont know. The people who have looked at my chart can not find much of psychology there. I would
generally speaking say that a strong Neptune is the best for psychology, but I dont have a strong Neptune
myself. Maybe it is my strong Uranus that helps me - the capacity of Uranus to perceive the true meaning ofwhat is going on inside us, to see the inner cause behind the outer veil.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #14 - on: 12.12.2011 at 13:35 [UT] »Great ideas Lynne~ We do have the ability to analyze ourselves and through Self Awareness we can correctsome of those instinctual Defense Mechanisms. It is within the person that says their chart is "Set in Stone". I
see the chart as a map of potentials. When I saw my chart for the first time years ago, the Mars squares
validated what I already knew and gave me more impetus to work with meditation.
As a potential biopsychologist, I see the doors of the Mind opening even more. With each new thing discovered,theories and concepts can be adapted. If I had no control over environmental factors of my childhood, I would
not be here. Astrology and Psychology work well together. It is not a good thing for an astrologer to say You
Are.... but more that there is a potential for... and take into account personal bias. A chart can be used as a
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form of attack. Those Mars squares of mine do indicate a potential for temper but they also describe theviolence I witnessed and experienced as a child. Llewellyn also described my Jupiter Neptune conjunction in the
fourth as being susceptible to nervous disorders in older age... I have taken great measure to avoid this.
My B is CP Aries in the 9th, Merc/Pluto off sign conj. Pluto conj Sun... I tread deeply within the mechanisms ofthe mind. Empathy is the most important thing in effective counseling. Having Uranus in the first ruler of my 7
and 8th house helps for effective detachment without appearing distant like some counselors.

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Aneli

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #15 - on: 12.12.2011 at 20:56 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 12.12.2011 at 13:35 [UT]:Great ideas Lynne~ We do have the ability to analyze ourselves and through Self Awareness we can correct some of those instinctual
Defense Mechanisms. It is within the person that says their chart is "Set in Stone". I see the chart as a map of potentials. When I saw mychart for the first time years ago, the Mars squares validated what I already knew and gave me more impetus to work with meditation.
As a potential biopsychologist, I see the doors of the Mind opening even more. With each new thing discovered, theories and concepts canbe adapted. If I had no control over environmental factors of my childhood, I would not be here. Astrology and Psychology work welltogether. It is not a good thing for an astrologer to say You Are.... but more that there is a potential for... and take into account personalbias. A chart can be used as a form of attack. Those Mars squares of mine do indicate a potential for temper but they also describe theviolence I witnessed and experienced as a child. Llewellyn also described my Jupiter Neptune conjunction in the fourth as being susceptible
to nervous disorders in older age... I have taken great measure to avoid this.

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B is CP Aries in the 9th, Merc/Pluto off sign conj. Pluto conj Sun... I tread deeply within the mechanisms of the mind. Empathy is themost important thing in effective counseling. Having Uranus in the first ruler of my 7 and 8th house helps for effective detachment without
appearing distant like some counselors.

I really agree with all you said. However there are therapists who think astrology is ridiculous.I actually know
one.When I told her I want to become an astrologer she rolled her eyes and said that those are some otherspheres...basically she ridiculed me.
Aries.Big surprise!

Nobody really likes her as a therapist,they call her a manager.She s an

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Aneli
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #16 - on: 12.12.2011 at 22:07 [UT] »Quote from selenas on 12.12.2011 at 21:58 [UT]:AquaMoon, I do not think that all Aries psychologists/therapists are manager types. Take , for instance, Abraham Maslow, the founder ofhumanistic psychology. He was a double Aries (aA and B). He was all but a narrow minded manager type.

Of course,not all Aries people are like that,I agree with you.I just said this particular Aries therapist is actually
narrow-minded when it comes to astrology and these things.I was just complaining about this woman,I realize
my mistake here.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #17 - on: 12.12.2011 at 22:14 [UT] »Sorry I accidentally deleted my original post and can not restore it back.
I see your point. Actually I also know only one psychologist who is open minded and industrious enough tostudy and use astrology. The other one is Peter Orban, the german psychotherapist who uses astrology in his
work after studying it for 4 years. Not too many therapists are willing to do so.

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Aneli
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #18 - on: 12.12.2011 at 23:04 [UT] »Quote from selenas on 12.12.2011 at 22:14 [UT]:
Sorry I accidentally deleted my original post and can not restore it back.
I see your point. Actually I also know only one psychologist who is open minded and industrious enough to study and use astrology. The
other one is Peter Orban, the german psychotherapist who uses astrology in his work after studying it for 4 years. Not too many therapists
are willing to do so.

Yes very few of them accept astrology let alone use it in their practice.It can be very useful tool actually,whenPosts: 1410
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #19 - on: 13.12.2011 at 04:21 [UT] »Well, you have to understand the reason that psychologists are guarded against astrology. Astrology lends tovarious methods of distorted thinking - when I think of it as a subject, I'm reminded of Neptune and Uranus;
the disillusionment and unconventionality. Psychologists are looking to untangle these distorted thoughtprocesses and ground people to reality. Astrology broadens views and makes us look beyond that. They justwork in completely different ways.
Of course, in the right individuals, astrology adds depth to every-day situations, but not everyone is mature
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Gender:enough to look at it in that way. Some will just look at it as how things "should" be and fall into self-fulfilledprophecies - living by their charts and horoscopes. And you can't deny that people do this! In fact, a worksheetthat my own therapist gave me discusses distorted thinking, and I find myself falling into those thinking habits
whenever I study astrology too much. (Particularly "Should Statements" and "Jumping to Conclusions.")

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #20 - on: 13.12.2011 at 07:33 [UT] »MemberQuote from Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio on 10.12.2011 at 20:33 [UT]:
What in your chart would you say indicates your affinity towards psychology?
For me I d say Moon in Aquarius,3 planets in the 8th and strong Pluto.
I ve actually read there are a lot of air signs in psychology.Coz they like to understand emotions and psyche and coz they can detachthemselves from very emotional situations they make good(but not all of course)psychiatrists.
Ana

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For me, scorpio rising and pluto in the 12th is the BIG one for me. Also to an extent my moon conjunctneptune and sun and jupiter trine neptune.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #21 - on: 13.12.2011 at 09:50 [UT] »Quote from Chu__ on 13.12.2011 at 04:21 [UT]:
Of course, in the right individuals, astrology adds depth to every-day situations, but not everyone is mature enough to look at it in thatway. Some will just look at it as how things "should" be and fall into self-fulfilled prophecies - living by their charts and horoscopes. And
you can't deny that people do this! In fact, a worksheet that my own therapist gave me discusses distorted thinking, and I find myself
falling into those thinking habits whenever I study astrology too much. (Particularly "Should Statements" and "Jumping to Conclusions.")

I agree.

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The psychologists I know that are working in mental health institutions have populated 12th houses. All ofthem.
The rest of the chart shows no patterns - bc there are many, many types of psychologists. I'd think that a
psychotherapist or a counselling psychologist should have a populated 8th hs, but some of the ones I know
don't.
Some have strong Pluto issues, and it stands to reason bc the attraction towards psychology is always a need
for Control and Power sublimated into a savior complex or a need to understand or whatever. Not all
psychologists are fascinated by mental illness. I'm not. And there's also a whole different world - several
actually - dealing with HR, publicity, research, cognitive processes, social psychology, and so on. Each hasdifferent dynamics in the chart.
In my chart, Pluto rules my 9th house, from the 8th and Libra. Uranus conjuncts the Moon in Scorpio, one in
the 8th the other in the 9th. This would be enough to describe my training and education, I think. my specificpreferences are shown in the rest of the chart - Sun-Venus in the 11th = groups; Sag Merc-Nep = existentialand experiential types of theories and methods. Chiron in the 2nd - I did a lot of research on self-esteem
issues, in connection to social values (11th Venus, Cap) and women identity roles.(Probably mixing my Aqua
Asc into it - I don't fit into prescribed roles and I tend to "fight' them in true Aqua fashion). And so on.
Empty 12th - no interest in mental health pacients, but I do always end up working with them. I seem to be
the only one who's not interested in their diagnostics (unless when they do matter, of course ). I see them as areason to limitations of all sorts. As soon as we stamp a tag on something, we stop perceiving it and reallyconsidering it per se. And that's kind stupid. To me, at least.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #22 - on: 13.12.2011 at 13:59 [UT] »Quote from Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio on 12.12.2011 at 20:56 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 12.12.2011 at 13:35 [UT]:Great ideas Lynne~ We do have the ability to analyze ourselves and through Self Awareness we can correct some of thoseinstinctual Defense Mechanisms. It is within the person that says their chart is "Set in Stone". I see the chart as a map ofpotentials. When I saw my chart for the first time years ago, the Mars squares validated what I already knew and gave me
more impetus to work with meditation.
As a potential biopsychologist, I see the doors of the Mind opening even more. With each new thing discovered, theories
and concepts can be adapted. If I had no control over environmental factors of my childhood, I would not be here.
Astrology and Psychology work well together. It is not a good thing for an astrologer to say You Are.... but more that there
is a potential for... and take into account personal bias. A chart can be used as a form of attack. Those Mars squares ofPosts: 5489

mine do indicate a potential for temper but they also describe the violence I witnessed and experienced as a child.
Llewellyn also described my Jupiter Neptune conjunction in the fourth as being susceptible to nervous disorders in older
age... I have taken great measure to avoid this.
My

B is CP Aries in the 9th, Merc/Pluto off sign conj. Pluto conj Sun... I tread deeply within the mechanisms of the mind.

Empathy is the most important thing in effective counseling. Having Uranus in the first ruler of my 7 and 8th house helps
for effective detachment without appearing distant like some counselors.

I really agree with all you said. However there are therapists who think astrology is ridiculous.I actually know one.When I told her I want
to become an astrologer she rolled her eyes and said that those are some other spheres...basically she ridiculed me.

Nobody reallylikes her as a therapist,they call her a manager.She s an Aries.Big surprise!

LOL that was within the first paragraphs of my first Psych. class. Clearly she is an example of someone wholacks an openness to ideas. Stuck in the Scientific Method she is and proof that technical knowledge does notequate to being effective. It takes Empathy... l/I ruler of my Ninth. Hmmm with Virgo/Mercury ruling mythird and Merc's ties in my chart explains why people are literally drawn to me for help of all kinds. Fortunately
I have enough sense to not counsel, but help guide them toward good counsel and real help. Listening and notrevealing ourselves to the client is so important. When someone comes for help they typically expect that
helper to be professional and to have authoritative knowledge or why else would they spend their money andtime? I do not prescribe any one particular house to psychotherapy.
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Aneli

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #23 - on: 13.12.2011 at 14:41 [UT] »Its funny, I behave like a therapist when someone is upset.The moment I see tears or sense drama I get very
serious,Im perfectly calm and I think to myself how can I calm them down and help them with my advice ;allwith a certain distance and detachment coz even though I want to help I do get a little uncomfortable with allthat display of ,for me unnecessary,emotions.I mentioned this on some other thread already but I thought I dshare it here as well since its appropriate.
I believe this would be my B in k(detachment,rationalization with emotions),ASC in f(distance) and
C,D,E in the 8th(depth and psychology) at work.

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Aneli
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #24 - on: 13.12.2011 at 14:47 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 13.12.2011 at 13:59 [UT]:
Quote from Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio on 12.12.2011 at 20:56 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 12.12.2011 at 13:35 [UT]:Great ideas Lynne~ We do have the ability to analyze ourselves and through Self Awareness we can correctsome of those instinctual Defense Mechanisms. It is within the person that says their chart is "Set in Stone".
I see the chart as a map of potentials. When I saw my chart for the first time years ago, the Mars squares
validated what I already knew and gave me more impetus to work with meditation.
As a potential biopsychologist, I see the doors of the Mind opening even more. With each new thing
discovered, theories and concepts can be adapted. If I had no control over environmental factors of mychildhood, I would not be here. Astrology and Psychology work well together. It is not a good thing for an

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Gender:astrologer to say You Are.... but more that there is a potential for... and take into account personal bias. A
chart can be used as a form of attack. Those Mars squares of mine do indicate a potential for temper but
they also describe the violence I witnessed and experienced as a child. Llewellyn also described my Jupiter
Neptune conjunction in the fourth as being susceptible to nervous disorders in older age... I have taken greatmeasure to avoid this.
My

B is CP Aries in the 9th, Merc/Pluto off sign conj. Pluto conj Sun... I tread deeply within the mechanismsof the mind. Empathy is the most important thing in effective counseling. Having Uranus in the first ruler ofmy 7 and 8th house helps for effective detachment without appearing distant like some counselors.

I really agree with all you said. However there are therapists who think astrology is ridiculous.I actually know one.When I
told her I want to become an astrologer she rolled her eyes and said that those are some other spheres...basically she
ridiculed me.

Nobody really likes her as a therapist,they call her a manager.She s an Aries.Big surprise!

LOL that was within the first paragraphs of my first Psych. class. Clearly she is an example of someone who lacks an openness to ideas.
Stuck in the Scientific Method she is and proof that technical knowledge does not equate to being effective. It takes Empathy...

Yes she definitely lacks openness to ideas and she s stuck in scientific method.She s only about medication andreality which I don't think is such a bad thing but hello!,add some open mindedness and thus empathy to yourpractice.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #25 - on: 13.12.2011 at 15:37 [UT] »Biopsychology is fascinating and something I am very interested in. Ironically some of those drugs iechloropromazines are only effective on 7% of the patients. I believe Nature provides everything we need
whether it is food, pleasure, or medicines.
The Virgo in me seeks natural holistic solutions... et tu Ana?

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #26 - on: 13.12.2011 at 17:38 [UT] »Quote from cris_me on 13.12.2011 at 09:50 [UT]:The psychologists I know that are working in mental health institutions have populated 12th houses. All of them.

That's funny. None of the ones I know have any planets in H12...
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #27 - on: 13.12.2011 at 17:45 [UT] »Quote from Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio on 13.12.2011 at 14:47 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 13.12.2011 at 13:59 [UT]:
Quote from Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio on 12.12.2011 at 20:56 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 12.12.2011 at 13:35 [UT]:Great ideas Lynne~ We do have the ability to analyze ourselves and through Self Awareness wecan correct some of those instinctual Defense Mechanisms. It is within the person that says
their chart is "Set in Stone". I see the chart as a map of potentials. When I saw my chart for
the first time years ago, the Mars squares validated what I already knew and gave me more
impetus to work with meditation.
As a potential biopsychologist, I see the doors of the Mind opening even more. With each newthing discovered, theories and concepts can be adapted. If I had no control over environmental
factors of my childhood, I would not be here. Astrology and Psychology work well together. It is
not a good thing for an astrologer to say You Are.... but more that there is a potential for... andtake into account personal bias. A chart can be used as a form of attack. Those Mars squares ofmine do indicate a potential for temper but they also describe the violence I witnessed andexperienced as a child. Llewellyn also described my Jupiter Neptune conjunction in the fourth as
being susceptible to nervous disorders in older age... I have taken great measure to avoid this.
My

B is CP Aries in the 9th, Merc/Pluto off sign conj. Pluto conj Sun... I tread deeply within themechanisms of the mind. Empathy is the most important thing in effective counseling. Having
Uranus in the first ruler of my 7 and 8th house helps for effective detachment without
appearing distant like some counselors.

I really agree with all you said. However there are therapists who think astrology is ridiculous.I actuallyknow one.When I told her I want to become an astrologer she rolled her eyes and said that those are someother spheres...basically she ridiculed me.

Nobody really likes her as a therapist,they call her amanager.She s an Aries.Big surprise!

LOL that was within the first paragraphs of my first Psych. class. Clearly she is an example of someone who lacks an
openness to ideas. Stuck in the Scientific Method she is and proof that technical knowledge does not equate to being
effective. It takes Empathy...

Yes she definitely lacks openness to ideas and she s stuck in scientific method.She s only about medication and reality which I don't thinkis such a bad thing but hello!,add some open mindedness and thus empathy to your practice.

Leave the poor person alone, ladies, please. If science and medication works for her all right, why bombard her
with something that she is so against?
I know a couple of therapists for whom astrology is a huge no-no. It's just not the thing they feel comfortable
about. Yet they work quite effectively and are great persons.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #28 - on: 13.12.2011 at 19:00 [UT] »Yes ramez nas...

she is well left alone. But it does bring the fact that meds as they are really suck for themost part. Sad to say until there is new understanding of how the brain functions they will have to do. I see
where astrology does take into count things that the Science of Psychology doesn't.
The most important factor is being able to connect. Gary who is a local counselor has turned away potential
clients for this very reason. We are not able to connect with everyone who walks in nor should it be expected.
But yes Knowledge and Empathy are so important and an ability to not get locked into one Theory. Some cases
may utilize all theories as therapy progresses.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #29 - on: 13.12.2011 at 19:29 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 13.12.2011 at 19:00 [UT]:
Yes ramez nas...

she is well left alone. But it does bring the fact that meds as they are really suck for the most part.

We have a bit different opinion about psychiatric medication as discussed in an earlier thread. I don't see psy
med industry as the big bad wolf, and certainly in my vicinity I don't see drugs overprecribed by psy
professionals.
[/quote]Sad to say until there is new understanding of how the brain functions they will have to do. I see
where astrology does take into count things that the Science of Psychology doesn't. [/quote]

What is the new understanding of the brain functions? Hormones, mediators and cells substituted forsomething totally different???
And the highlighted sentence is a total haze for me. Could you clarify what you mean, please? What is it thatpsychology doesn't take into account, but astrology does?
(Sh**t. Could someone please tell me how to insert quotes into the text and then answer them and then insert
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #30 - on: 13.12.2011 at 19:37 [UT] »Oh here in America it is a throw a drug at them and they will calm down... maybe. Psychology does not take
into account psychic experiences ramez. Ron Gardner did include a Ninth Intelligence then back peddled.
Chloropromazines are not effective for most patients. Now Uptake inhibitors are popular and I still hear thesame complaints that they effect other functionality. Zyprexa was responsible for causing heart damage in
people, Seroquel, Zoloft etc can cause suicidal tendencies. So does Abilify. Cymbalta which originally was fordepression is now for Arthritis??? as advertised here in the States.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #31 - on: 13.12.2011 at 20:29 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 13.12.2011 at 19:37 [UT]:
Oh here in America it is a throw a drug at them and they will calm down... maybe. Psychology does not take into account psychic
experiences ramez. Ron Gardner did include a Ninth Intelligence then back peddled.
Chloropromazines are not effective for most patients. Now Uptake inhibitors are popular and I still hear the same complaints that theyeffect other functionality. Zyprexa was responsible for causing heart damage in people, Seroquel, Zoloft etc can cause suicidal tendencies.
So does Abilify. Cymbalta which originally was for depression is now for Arthritis??? as advertised here in the States.

Eyesis, psychology does take into account psychic experiences, only different schools give different explanations
to them. Take for example Jung as the most obvious. Or transpersonal psychology, whose aim is to examine
those territories of human existence that are labelled as spiritual, transcendent, mistic, alternated state ofmind... etc.
Re drugs: of course we all know about the "Prozac nation" phenomenon. All the same, the US is not the wholeworld, though a considerable part of it. We shouldn't generalize on the base of it.
Chloropromazines?? They are history. Used widely in the 50ies, nowdays forgot by all pious psychiatrists.
Seroquel, Zoloft and Abilify are not infamous for their suicidal side effect, but Fluoxetin (Prozac) is. Cymbalta
for Arthritis? I haven't heard that one. But as we know the little blue pills are effective in certain heart deseases
as well, so I wouldn't be surprised.
After all medical science is constantly developing and basically all drugs can have side effects, psychiatric
medicines are of course no exception. But let me claim that they are no evil in themselves. They do help, justas Aspirin or Paracetamol do. Or Penicillin for that matter, which would instantly kill me while a certain
Medazepam has helped me cure my phobia and panic attacks.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #32 - on: 13.12.2011 at 22:25 [UT] »Quote from Atmospheric shadows on 13.12.2011 at 07:33 [UT]:For me, scorpio rising and pluto in the 12th is the BIG one for me.

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For myself as well. I also have Pluto sextile the MC, and making semi-squares to my sun and mercury (I'm a
Virgo).
I completed graduate work in Psychology, and worked as a researcher in developmental psychology for most of
my time in school. I've also worked as a Grief and Bereavement Counsellor at two Hospices.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #33 - on: 13.12.2011 at 23:47 [UT] »Quote from ramez nas on 13.12.2011 at 19:29 [UT]:(Sh**t. Could someone please tell me how to insert quotes into the text and then answer them and then insert another quote again? I've
been experimenting with it for a long time but with no success.

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Just copy and paste the small bit you want to respond to, then highlight it and click on the little 'Insert quote'icon above ^, in one of those pale blue boxes with things in them.
And if you want to insert a quote from another person but in the same reply box, then the only way I know ofis to open another forum page, click on the quote button, then copy and paste the whole quote thingy with thebrackets and everything back to your original reply....if that makes sense?

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Member« Reply #34 - on: 14.12.2011 at 00:58 [UT] »Quote from Lynne on 13.12.2011 at 23:47 [UT]:
Quote from ramez nas on 13.12.2011 at 19:29 [UT]:(Sh**t. Could someone please tell me how to insert quotes into the text and then answer them and then insert anotherquote again? I've been experimenting with it for a long time but with no success.

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Just copy and paste the small bit you want to respond to, then highlight it and click on the little 'Insert quote' icon above ^, in one ofthose pale blue boxes with things in them.
And if you want to insert a quote from another person but in the same reply box, then the only way I know of is to open another forum

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reply....if that makes sense?

God bless you Lynne!!I ve been losing my sanity with these quotes as well.So like Ramez nas all I have to add
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #35 - on: 14.12.2011 at 10:35 [UT] »Quote from ramez nas on 13.12.2011 at 19:29 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 13.12.2011 at 19:00 [UT]:
Yes ramez nas...

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Gender:she is well left alone. But it does bring the fact that meds as they are really suck for the most part.

We have a bit different opinion about psychiatric medication as discussed in an earlier thread. I don't see psy med industry as the big badwolf, and certainly in my vicinity I don't see drugs overprecribed by psy professionals.
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Sad to say until there is new understanding of how the brain functions they will have to do. I see where astrology

does take into count things that the Science of Psychology doesn't.

What is the new understanding of the brain functions? Hormones, mediators and cells substituted for something totally different???
And the highlighted sentence is a total haze for me. Could you clarify what you mean, please? What is it that psychology doesn't take into
account, but astrology does?

(Sh**t. Could someone please tell me how to insert quotes into the text and then answer themand then insert another quote again? I've been experimenting with it for a long time but with nosuccess. )You're on the right track. As long as you begin with "quote" and end with "/quote" you're fine. In the one
above, the mistake you made was having the backlash at the start as well as at the end. The word quote inbrackets signifies the beginning of the quote and the backslash signifies the end of the quote.
I see that Lynne has given you another alternative, which I often use. That works too.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #36 - on: 14.12.2011 at 20:06 [UT] »Quote from Ethereal Mountain on 14.12.2011 at 10:35 [UT]:
Quote from ramez nas on 13.12.2011 at 19:29 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 13.12.2011 at 19:00 [UT]:
Yes ramez nas...

she is well left alone. But it does bring the fact that meds as they are really suck forthe most part.

We have a bit different opinion about psychiatric medication as discussed in an earlier thread. I don't see psy med industry
as the big bad wolf, and certainly in my vicinity I don't see drugs overprecribed by psy professionals.
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Sad to say until there is new understanding of how the brain functions they will have to do. I see

where astrology does take into count things that the Science of Psychology
doesn't.

What is the new understanding of the brain functions? Hormones, mediators and cells substituted for something totallydifferent???
And the highlighted sentence is a total haze for me. Could you clarify what you mean, please? What is it that psychology
doesn't take into account, but astrology does?

(Sh**t. Could someone please tell me how to insert quotes into the text and thenanswer them and then insert another quote again? I've been experimenting with it fora long time but with no success. )You're on the right track. As long as you begin with "quote" and end with "/quote" you're fine. In the one above, the mistake you madewas having the backlash at the start as well as at the end. The word quote in brackets signifies the beginning of the quote and thebackslash signifies the end of the quote.
I see that Lynne has given you another alternative, which I often use. That works too.

Thanks a lot guys! I'll do my best!
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #37 - on: 14.12.2011 at 20:19 [UT] »my degree is in psychology and media studies and my masters although just media studies incorporated a fairamount of psychology into it. so with this in mind I guess I put it down to several things in my chart:-

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strong Ih in the 12th m AC pEl ( always tried to be empathic)

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #38 - on: 14.12.2011 at 20:32 [UT] »You CAN do it Ramez!!!

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #39 - on: 14.12.2011 at 21:15 [UT] »I have a lot of 12th house planets and pretty full 11th house and Chiron in the 8th. This conversation has been
done a number of times. There are so many schools of therapy, different styles of therapists, and different
presenting issues that clients bring in. Most therapists have a style and a perference of who and what theywork well with if they are honest about it. It is like anything else in life, there is no one therapy that fits all
people, and all presenting problems. The reality in the United States is that health insurance does not coverlong term therapy anymore and it is a very expensive service to pay for out of pocket. I know I will be"politically incorrect" with this but there is a place for medication. Ask people that suffered with panic attacks,
depression, compulsion disorders for years and years and then found themselves able to function again withsome chemical help. Alot of therapists don't like the idea of medication because it diminishes their sense of
power. Depressdions can allow you to begin to examine yourself and face painful truths about yourself or it canlead to suicide Can medication be abused or over used, of course it can. Doctors want quick fixes and so do
the patients ! You can die of an overdose of aspirin, you can die from drinking too much water as happened to
one marathon runner last year. Does that mean you won't use aspirin or drink water? I guess what I am trying
to say is there is a balance, there is no one way for all things. My two cents.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #40 - on: 14.12.2011 at 23:09 [UT] »Quote by Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio:
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themselves from very emotional situations they make good(but not all of course)psychiatrists.

I agree with this. Where did you read this? The horoscopes of psychologists often show a lot of air signs.
Psychology is also a very social profession and a lot of air is very social. Not all psychologists have a lot of air
though. I have Moon trine Pluto which is an aspect I associate with my interest in psychology. A strong Pluto
definitely can be associated with an interest in psychology. A lot of air and or a good Uranus can show theability to detach and view a situation objectively.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #41 - on: 14.12.2011 at 23:17 [UT] »Quote from Geoffrey Hillend on 14.12.2011 at 23:09 [UT]:
Quote by Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio:
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I ve actually read there are a lot of air signs in psychology.Coz they like to understand emotions and psyche and coz they
can detach themselves from very emotional situations they make good(but not all of course)psychiatrists.

I agree with this. Where did you read this? The horoscopes of psychologists often show a lot of air signs. Psychology is also a very social
profession and a lot of air is very social. Not all psychologists have a lot of air though. I have Moon trine Pluto which is an aspect I

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Gender:associate with my interest in psychology. A strong Pluto definitely can be associated with an interest in psychology. A lot of air and or agood Uranus can show the ability to detach and view a situation objectively.

I ve read this in a book of Liz Greene.I also have Moon trine Pluto!Yes my strong Pluto too is definitely thereason why Im into psychology,psychoanalizing myself and others.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #42 - on: 14.12.2011 at 23:25 [UT] »I am interested in psychology to the extent that it is about people and how they think, and this hasrepercussions for individuals and society. Academically I'm inter-disciplinary so I live in the realms ofindustrial/organisational psychology, sociology, anthropology.
I have lots of k planets for all that thinking and theories, a OCD yod for knocking around writing andthinking and I ascribed J at the top of the chart with near exact n N across f/l 5h/11h interconnected withevery other planet in my natal as the psychological and social research interests.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #43 - on: 15.12.2011 at 06:27 [UT] »I am ever fascinated in wy people conduct themselves as they do..

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #44 - on: 15.12.2011 at 21:44 [UT] »Liz Greene's books are pretty deep. When I first got interested in astrology in the late 1980's, a guy at the
local theosophical society showed me one of her books called Relating, but I didn't like it. It was toocomplicated for me.

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After I read a lot of astrology books by 1992, I took her book called Saturn off the shelf at a large book store.
I opened the book to Mars in aspect to Saturn in synastry. I never read anything like that before. I washooked so I bought the book. After I read the whole book I had agree with the book description on the back:It is a brilliant analysis of Saturn.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #45 - on: 15.12.2011 at 23:39 [UT] »Quote from Geoffrey Hillend on 15.12.2011 at 21:44 [UT]:
Liz Greene's books are pretty deep. When I first got interested in astrology in the late 1980's, a guy at the local theosophical society
showed me one of her books called Relating, but I didn't like it. It was too complicated for me.
After I read a lot of astrology books by 1992, I took her book called Saturn off the shelf at a large book store. I opened the book to Marsin aspect to Saturn in synastry. I never read anything like that before. I was hooked so I bought the book. After I read the whole book I
had agree with the book description on the back: It is a brilliant analysis of Saturn.

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Gender:Yes I ve read that book too and loved it;aspects and synastry.The thing that was refreshing for me was what
you mentioned-Mars/Saturn aspect!Not necessarily a disaster for couples who have it in their synastry!!

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #46 - on: 16.12.2011 at 12:31 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 14.12.2011 at 20:32 [UT]:You CAN do it Ramez!!!

Reminds me of Mr. Noodle, my fav character.
A little support is always nice before such big tasks. Thanks, Eyesis.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #47 - on: 16.12.2011 at 14:08 [UT] »Quote from ramez nas on 16.12.2011 at 12:31 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 14.12.2011 at 20:32 [UT]:You CAN do it Ramez!!!

Reminds me of Mr. Noodle, my fav character.
A little support is always nice before such big tasks. Thanks, Eyesis.

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You soooo welcome. I thought you would like that!! I do enjoy our rapport Ramez, we may not agree all thetime but I learn from intelligent disagreement.
I see a wide potential of placements and aspects for being an effective psychologist. I had an experience after
the fire of a grief counselor who began to cry when I discussed my "thing". I ended up consoling him. Blessingsfor his care, but I could not see going back to him in particular.
There are people's stories that could render us to tears, but we have to keep an arm's length approach. I do
have Chiron in k in my seventh. Maybe that is why I can still be effective and feel empathy without becoming
immersed in their issues. (People who have come to my home seeking initial help)
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #48 - on: 16.12.2011 at 14:25 [UT] »Definitely Fk in 8H!!!!
I am very interested in what makes people tick and the motives behind their actions.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #49 - on: 16.12.2011 at 16:14 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 16.12.2011 at 14:08 [UT]:
Quote from ramez nas on 16.12.2011 at 12:31 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 14.12.2011 at 20:32 [UT]:You CAN do it Ramez!!!

Reminds me of Mr. Noodle, my fav character.
A little support is always nice before such big tasks. Thanks, Eyesis.

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You soooo welcome. I thought you would like that!! I do enjoy our rapport Ramez, we may not agree all the time but I learn from
intelligent disagreement.
I see a wide potential of placements and aspects for being an effective psychologist. I had an experience after the fire of a grief counselor
who began to cry when I discussed my "thing". I ended up consoling him. Blessings for his care, but I could not see going back to him inparticular.
There are people's stories that could render us to tears, but we have to keep an arm's length approach. I do have Chiron in

k in myseventh. Maybe that is why I can still be effective and feel empathy without becoming immersed in their issues. (People who have cometo my home seeking initial help)

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There are people's stories that could render us to tears, but we have to keep an arm's length approach. I do have Chiron in in my seventh.
Maybe that is why I can still be effective and feel empathy without becoming immersed in their issues.

Same here,I take the same approach.Im an kB
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BTW Im not a therapist but have an affinity towards mentally instable.Some of my friends have these
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #50 - on: 16.12.2011 at 16:45 [UT] »Hey, just thought about psychologists and the 12th house. The 12th house is the house of imprisonmentand Hidden Enemies. A therapist is human and open to human foibles, they are not above their own agendas. I
would see unethical or unscrupulous therapists to have a bevy of 12th, and in synastry a therapist who'splanets fall in your (or my) 12th would be subversive to genuine therapy. I have heard of instances of therapists
pushing their personal agenda or projecting their own issues onto patients.
Psychology is not everyone's path.. I have an empty 12th. Ruler of 12th in 9th, CP Aries.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #51 - on: 16.12.2011 at 17:32 [UT] »Eeer, Eyesis, I really don't mean to be nitpicky, but one of my favourite colleagues, whose emotional
intelligence, humanity and empathy are simply admirable, has iFmEmC in H12...so these ideas may be true
on a large scale, but there are exceptions..
I have an empty H12, and ruler (C) in H8, near H9 cusp too..
What is CP?
Oh, and Aqua Moon/Draconic Scorpio, I also have an airy Moon (c in H11), what's more it'sp g O and r b G, but I can say the hardest thing of being a therapist for me is not to get emotionallyinvolved with the client's problem. I mean I never become a cry baby when "in character", but I'm still learning
what to do with the emotional burden I take up. Fortunately I have a great supervisor (k A, l B).
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #52 - on: 16.12.2011 at 23:26 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 16.12.2011 at 16:45 [UT]:Hey, just thought about psychologists and the 12th house. The 12th house is the house of imprisonment and Hidden Enemies. A
therapist is human and open to human foibles, they are not above their own agendas. I would see unethical or unscrupulous therapists tohave a bevy of 12th, and in synastry a therapist who's planets fall in your (or my) 12th would be subversive to genuine therapy. I haveheard of instances of therapists pushing their personal agenda or projecting their own issues onto patients.
Psychology is not everyone's path.. I have an empty 12th. Ruler of 12th in 9th, CP Aries.

I think this is rubbish actually. The 12th house is the house of hospitals and institutions....not all 12th housepeople are inmates.
Some are drawn to work in those kinds of environments out of selflessness and great compassion for thehuman condition and our shared suffering.
Pushing your own agenda, projecting your own issues, sounds like an ego thing to me....fire Moon, 1st houseplanets? That's what would worry me in a therapist, it being all about them, self aggrandisement.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #53 - on: 17.12.2011 at 00:20 [UT] »12 th house rules also: researchers, authors; historians...
People whose work requires great concentration..
We can 'disect' every house & give it a bad rap..

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #54 - on: 17.12.2011 at 20:57 [UT] »Mercury Saturn when integrated and Mercury Pluto or Saturn Pluto aspects indicate great concentration
sometimes together with Jupiter Pluto aspects. One of these planets in the sign Gemini.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #55 - on: 17.12.2011 at 21:15 [UT] »Quote from Lynne on 16.12.2011 at 23:26 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 16.12.2011 at 16:45 [UT]:Hey, just thought about psychologists and the 12th house. The 12th house is the house of imprisonment and Hidden
Enemies. A therapist is human and open to human foibles, they are not above their own agendas. I would see unethical or
unscrupulous therapists to have a bevy of 12th, and in synastry a therapist who's planets fall in your (or my) 12th would
be subversive to genuine therapy. I have heard of instances of therapists pushing their personal agenda or projecting theirown issues onto patients.
Psychology is not everyone's path.. I have an empty 12th. Ruler of 12th in 9th, CP Aries.

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I think this is rubbish actually. The 12th house is the house of hospitals and institutions....not all 12th house people are inmates.
Some are drawn to work in those kinds of environments out of selflessness and great compassion for the human condition and our sharedsuffering.

I am simply stating traditional definitions of the 12th and the darker side. The upside of the 12th has been discussed at length on theforum so I figured the obvious qualities went without saying... ie the Unconscious or Unseen and for a patient possible self undoing.

Ibelieve there are qualities within any house that would facilitate the ability to investigate and analyze. I would naturally assume that aperson enters into psych. out of caring for others.
Pushing your own agenda, projecting your own issues, sounds like an ego thing to me....fire Moon, 1st house planets? That's what would
worry me in a therapist, it being all about them, self aggrandisement.

This is the second or third time you have for no reason attacked me in the open forum. If you don't like meleave me alone ok?
Attack mode Lynne this is beneath you or anyone. I was actually thinking of the therapist that hypnotized thewoman, Sybil Lynne. She used Hynosis to manipulate the woman's memory.
There is NO reason for you to be on the Offensive.
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #56 - on: 17.12.2011 at 21:32 [UT] »On the other side of the coin- think of the multidude of people who have been helped greatly through hypnosis
therapy..

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #57 - on: 17.12.2011 at 23:56 [UT] »Quote from Eyesis on 17.12.2011 at 21:15 [UT]:There is NO reason for you to be on the Offensive.

You're right, there is no reason to be on the offensive, it was a knee jerk reaction. I feel strongly that humility,
genuineness and a non-judgemental approach are essential qualities for a therapist...especially humility.
The 12th house is not one I'd exclude, along with the 8th and 4th, for therapy/therapists, water houses. And I
do think 1st house planets would need to be very carefully managed for a therapist in practice, since they areoften more concerned with the self, than the other.
Two therapists I know have Moon in the 7th, which makes sense; ability to work closely one on one without
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #58 - on: 18.12.2011 at 09:15 [UT] »Actually, Eyesis, I was quite shocked at first when I read your post too. My gut (or whatever organ) instantly
refused acknowledging such a negative generalization.. maybe it would have been wise if you had stated you
were presenting the other side of the H12 coin..
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #59 - on: 18.12.2011 at 10:18 [UT] »For a mental health professional with 12th house planets to "go bad" I would think there has to be much morethan a few planets in the 12th. There has to be some funky aspects or configurations going on. Simply having
12th house planets don't make you a crook. Even if a psychologist falls in your 12th in synastry maybe they
have the connection to help with your baggage, maybe they understand you a little better, it doesn't always
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #60 - on: 18.12.2011 at 10:49 [UT] »Experience can help you understand others better just like an experience with anything else.Some people(andthus therapists) learn from their own sort of "dark" place and they can give valuable advice in that department.
Like the strong 8th house or strong Saturn or Pluto or the confusing 12th house-it can "kill" you but if you
learn from it,survive the trails you can apply your new wisdom to others and in that way help them grow orlearn from your mistakes.I think its all about EXPERIENCE of whatever you got going on in your chart while atthe same time applying that experience with a clear head and sound judgement to others(patients forexample). Just my humble opinion,Im no expert.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #61 - on: 19.12.2011 at 20:48 [UT] »Quote from Lynne on 17.12.2011 at 23:56 [UT]:
Quote from Eyesis on 17.12.2011 at 21:15 [UT]:There is NO reason for you to be on the Offensive.

You're right, there is no reason to be on the offensive, it was a knee jerk reaction. I feel strongly that humility, genuineness and a nonjudgemental approach are essential qualities for a therapist...especially humility.
The 12th house is not one I'd exclude, along with the 8th and 4th, for therapy/therapists, water houses. And I do think 1st house planets

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would need to be very carefully managed for a therapist in practice, since they are often more concerned with the self, than the other.
Two therapists I know have Moon in the 7th, which makes sense; ability to work closely one on one without having too many of your own
needs interfering with the process.

Yes thank you Lynne. Not always with the first planets. They are not as selfish as believed. It is boring to haveand to not be able to share. It helps to have the ruler of my 7th as the first planet next to my Asc. I have been
mistaken as being a bit cold due my detachment. If I let myself get attached to the person's issues my
Empathy I would drown in. I had to learn how to shield myself so I would not absorb their pain whether
physical or emotional. This empathy is very psychic in nature. The first rules Self Perception not nec. Pluto in
the first tends toward strong tendencies for identity crisis during life changes and development for instance. I
think it is a whole chart thing, not just one aspect of the chart that makes us empathetic. Note that most of myposts stress the ability to empathize.
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Genetrix« Reply #62 - on: 19.12.2011 at 21:08 [UT] »Member

I really don't know why I have always been interested in Psychology? It was going to be my major in college
but, it ended up my minor. I don't have any of the astrological signatures for psychology. The only one I canthink of is CpJ? I'm a Ab with iASC and eB. I have Virgo on the MC--that may also account for part ofit.
Angi, I've always thought that B-J or C-J was good for psychologists.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #63 - on: 20.12.2011 at 12:18 [UT] »Quote from Juliet on 19.12.2011 at 21:08 [UT]:
I really don't know why I have always been interested in Psychology? It was going to be my major in college but, it ended up my minor. I
don't have any of the astrological signatures for psychology. The only one I can think of is

CpJ? I'm a Ab with iASC and eB. I

have Virgo on the MC--that may also account for part of it.
Angi, I've always thought that

B-J or C-J was good for psychologists.

That's because - I believe - there's no such as a psychologist-aspect or placement. As there are a lot of areas inthis science plus people enter a certain job because of totally different motivations why would there be one ormore certain sign/placement variations that would signify an interest in psychology?
Psychology borders with a lot of other sciences. Can we expect from an economist who researches gametheories to have similar placements as a social worker woring at a hospice-setting?
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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #64 - on: 20.12.2011 at 12:23 [UT] »Just out of interst: the first chart is that of a mathematician-psychologist, a game theory researcher who once
said that he is interested in everything in psychology except the client.

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Re: Psychology and your chart« Reply #65 - on: 20.12.2011 at 12:24 [UT] »And the chart of a psychologist who was the enthusiastic supporter of the hospice movement (died in cancer a
couple of xears ago herself) and worked with terminally ill children too. Wrote a lot of books about death anddying.

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