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Alchemist777
MemberSinging and Mercury« on: 22.09.2020 at 01:01 [UT+1] »Author has been thinking singing astrologically lately. Given that Mercury rules speech and communication, it
seems obvious that singing is about Mercury with a touch of Venus too. But quite weirdly this connection
between singing and Mercury has been rarely made, if not ever. Maybe this is due to perceived equivalence
singing=art=Venus?
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Be that as it may, Mercury-singing connection should be obvious considering biological mechanisms of voice
production. Since Mercury rules speech and communication, it is logical to assume that it also rulers thephysical correlates that are involved in speech and voice productions, such as motoric nerving of mouth andtongue etc. Overall, voice production is one of the most complex and rapid motor behaviors and (it) involves aprecise coordination of over 100 laryngeal, orofacial and respiratory muscles. So no wonder that singers needan adapt and versatile Mercury!
So it seems pretty reasonable, but can it be proved? Author tried to verify this by studying the charts of thebest singers ever. Who is the best? Who has the most beautiful/angelic voice? Who should have the moststartling Mercurial constellations? This is when author bumped into Dimash Kudaibergen. He is considered
the best by many. This is one review
His perfect delivery of sonic beauty is absolutely astounding. He personifies perfection. To borrow a slightly
altered quote from the former WWE Wrestling Champion, Bret “The Hitman” Hart: “He’s the best there is. The
best there was and the best there ever will be!”The Chart
So he is really, really good. What about the chart?
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kudaibergen,_Dimash
Well, Mercurial prominence is quite obvious. There's a massive (!) six planet Yod including Moon, Mercury,
Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and NN with the respective midpoint configurations. Mercury is an apex planet. Birthdata AA rated.
Then there is also
C/J=G (n) ("total vocal control") andAC/MC=C (o )There are a lot connections from the transcendental planets. No wonder why many listeners think "he is not
human". A lot of stuff could be said about these and other constellations. But let us leave that aside for now.
What do you think? Who is your favorite singer? Who do you consider the best? How do you see his/her
singing being reflected by his/her Mercury? You can post a singer's chart here too.
Songs by Dimash
Dimash Kudaibergen - S.O.S d'un terrien en détresse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEz1qGS0T1Q-First, they are amazed by this and then they want more
Opera 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anKmU1J0l9g-This one is quite funny. Original singer has prominent Uranian constellations, and one can see that.
Diva Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5zMupUOgQo-This song is "impossible" to human voice. Dimash is showing off as usual.
??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSXygVGRnQ-unfortunately video is fake, but it could be real.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #1 - on: 22.09.2020 at 01:50 [UT+1] »What stands out to me is his ascendant ruler E in the sign of the throat b in q to D and F.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #2 - on: 22.09.2020 at 03:00 [UT+1] »Yes. Mercury would seem obvious.
I need to look up Micheal Mc Donald.
He can sing.
I did know top singers with the most vocal range.
Remember 3, Mariah Carey. Prince, Micheal Jackson.
Never pd much attention mercury.
Julie Andrew's. No one could replace her voice.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #3 - on: 22.09.2020 at 09:59 [UT+1] »I recall reading once that to be a good singer, you need the rulers of houses 1,2,3 to be related to each otherand be in good health

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #4 - on: 22.09.2020 at 10:44 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 22.09.2020 at 01:50 [UT+1]:
What stands out to me is his ascendant ruler

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E in the sign of the throatb in q to D andF.

It may be relevant. What bothers me is that it would probably be very difficult to say in advance without
knowing the fact that Dimash is a very good singer, that E in b and E q D could be related to that. But
those aspects etc. just might be the clue. And it is not only throat area that it relevant in singing, it is thewhole apparatus (over 100 laryngeal, orofacial and respiratory muscles and their nerving). That is why Mercury
is so important.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #5 - on: 22.09.2020 at 11:12 [UT+1] »Quote from Maryb on 22.09.2020 at 03:00 [UT+1]:
Yes. Mercury would seem obvious.
I need to look up Micheal Mc Donald.
He can sing.

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I did know top singers with the most vocal range.
Remember 3, Mariah Carey. Prince, Micheal Jackson.
Never pd much attention mercury.
Julie Andrew's. No one could replace her voice.
Taurus shows up a lot

I familiar with their charts except for Julie Andrews. She has an interesting chart. There's
C/E=F andC/K=E
To me these constellations, especially E/F represent (along other factors) high level of raw talent. It is very
suitable for a writer too.
Then there is C-O-J T square. It seems that one finds relatively often Mercury with O/J among operatic or"operalike" etc. singers. For example, singers like Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Andrea Bocelli
and Luciano Pavarotti have this configuration. And Dimash.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Andrews,_Julie

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #6 - on: 22.09.2020 at 13:53 [UT+1] »I can sing, though nothing special and have a e Mercurial T-square between b BE & hJ.
3rd house is in b.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #7 - on: 22.09.2020 at 17:01 [UT+1] »Well, I haven't studied the charts of singers enough to have an opinion. But I'm a singer, and Mercury is mighty
powerful in my chart. Rules Sun and Moon, conjunct Midheaven, out of bounds by declination, makes lots oftight aspects including to Venus and Neptune. I have other common indications too, like Venus in Taurus for
instance. Also A=C/D and other midpoints...

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Alchemist777
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #8 - on: 22.09.2020 at 18:29 [UT+1] »Quote from Metal_Horse on 22.09.2020 at 13:53 [UT+1]:
I can sing, though nothing special and have a
3rd house is ine Mercurial T-square between b BE & hJ.

b.

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If my memory serves me correctly you have something, like F/O, G/O and E/J=C type of constellations
and angular Mercury. Is it special..that's another discussion. So do you sing just for yourself or is it more than ahobby?
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #9 - on: 22.09.2020 at 18:43 [UT+1] »Quote from Domna on 22.09.2020 at 17:01 [UT+1]:
Well, I haven't studied the charts of singers enough to have an opinion. But I'm a singer, and Mercury is mighty powerful in my chart.
Rules Sun and Moon, conjunct Midheaven, out of bounds by declination, makes lots of tight aspects including to Venus and Neptune. I haveother common indications too, like Venus in Taurus for instance. Also

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A=C/D and other midpoints...

http://i.pinimg.com/564x/d9/2b/e1/d92be194881472db0c6a35cb5017b9ef.jpg

Looks pretty Mercurial to me. I also find your midpoint interpretations pretty fluent. That A=C/D or soseems to be pretty common theme among singers. Then there are singers that have those E/I=C type of
constellations. For example, Prince, Billie Eilish and Susan Boyle have it. I have yet to figure out clearly what itmeans and how it manifests in context of signing.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #10 - on: 22.09.2020 at 19:02 [UT+1] »Quote from Alchemist777 on 22.09.2020 at 11:12 [UT+1]:
Quote from Maryb on 22.09.2020 at 03:00 [UT+1]:
Yes. Mercury would seem obvious.
I need to look up Micheal Mc Donald.
He can sing.
I did know top singers with the most vocal range.
Remember 3, Mariah Carey. Prince, Micheal Jackson.
Never pd much attention mercury.
Julie Andrew's. No one could replace her voice.

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I familiar with their charts except for Julie Andrews. She has an interesting chart. There's

C/E=F andC/K=E
To me these constellations, especially
Then there is

E/F represent (along other factors) high level of raw talent. It is very suitable for a writer too.

C-O-J T square. It seems that one finds relatively often Mercury with O/J among operatic or "operalike" etc. singers.

For example, singers like Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Andrea Bocelli and Luciano Pavarotti have this configuration. And
Dimash.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Andrews,_Julie

Thanks . this interesting.
Keep in mind. I like musician charts.
Singing different. I am enthralled by great singers.
My grand daughter has jupiter mars mercury conjunction ink
Si fi writer lol.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #11 - on: 22.09.2020 at 19:59 [UT+1] »How does the voice manifest in this world, in the body? I can imagine someone with lord of the 2nd house(voice) in 3rd house (skills) (DmC) which makes one have great artistic vocal skills and even makemoney...maybe singing in the subways? (just an example).
I recently was listening to Sa Sa Ding (I haven't for years) and was surprised by her current recordings. She hasa amazing voice imo. She even sings in her own made up language. No birth time but she has a tight iCmI

p aB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpan9yLmsgI&ab_channel=CarstenLovekiky
Mercury rules communication, speech and skills but it's D that gives artistic ability...rhythm.
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Domna
Member« Reply #12 - on: 22.09.2020 at 21:37 [UT+1] »Quote from Alchemist777 on 22.09.2020 at 18:43 [UT+1]:
Quote from Domna on 22.09.2020 at 17:01 [UT+1]:
Well, I haven't studied the charts of singers enough to have an opinion. But I'm a singer, and Mercury is mighty powerful in
my chart. Rules Sun and Moon, conjunct Midheaven, out of bounds by declination, makes lots of tight aspects including toVenus and Neptune. I have other common indications too, like Venus in Taurus for instance. Also
= /and other

A CD

midpoints...
http://i.pinimg.com/564x/d9/2b/e1/d92be194881472db0c6a35cb5017b9ef.jpg

Looks pretty Mercurial to me. I also find your midpoint interpretations pretty fluent. That

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A=C/D or so seems to be pretty common

EI C

theme among singers. Then there are singers that have those/ =type of constellations. For example, Prince, Billie Eilish and Susan
Boyle have it. I have yet to figure out clearly what it means and how it manifests in context of signing.

A=C/D could probably turn out several different ways. I can see it as literary talent, or a gift for pleasantcommunication, but singing is in essence an artistic way of communicating so it fits.
I think of E/I as, at it's best, a very creative midpoint. A combination of drive and inspiration. To be a really
good singer you need creativity. You can technically be good without it, but to be memorable some measure ofcreativity is needed.
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Alchemist777

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #13 - on: 22.09.2020 at 22:37 [UT+1] »Quote from sòsyè on 22.09.2020 at 19:59 [UT+1]:
How does the voice manifest in this world, in the body? I can imagine someone with lord of the 2nd house (voice) in 3rd house (skills)(

DmC) which makes one have great artistic vocal skills and even make money...maybe singing in the subways? (just an example).

I recently was listening to Sa Sa Ding (I haven't for years) and was surprised by her current recordings. She has a amazing voice imo. She

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even sings in her own made up language. No birth time but she has a tight

iCmI p aB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpan9yLmsgI&ab_channel=CarstenLovekiky
Mercury rules communication, speech and skills but it's

D that gives artistic ability...rhythm.

Her tight C/I squares both E and G and their midpoint E/G. Something to contemplate...
I think C/I can manifest as imaginative and imitative fluency, and with Saturn in the mix, maybe you get amade up language of your own too.
Her signing voice is quite soft and beautiful. There were settle moments of sharp acceleration in the rhythm, so
I wondered "is this E/O?". Uranus is a rhythmic planet after all. And it seems that there is A/O=E (o ) in thechart. E/O seems to be relatively common among pianists. B/O=D is also a possibility in this chart. It is agood question what exactly is the role of Venus in singing if technical aspects are covered by Mercury.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #14 - on: 22.09.2020 at 22:57 [UT+1] »Quote from Alchemist777 on 22.09.2020 at 18:43 [UT+1]:
Quote from Domna on 22.09.2020 at 17:01 [UT+1]:
Well, I haven't studied the charts of singers enough to have an opinion. But I'm a singer, and Mercury is mighty powerful in
my chart. Rules Sun and Moon, conjunct Midheaven, out of bounds by declination, makes lots of tight aspects including toVenus and Neptune. I have other common indications too, like Venus in Taurus for instance. Also

A=C/D and othermidpoints...
http://i.pinimg.com/564x/d9/2b/e1/d92be194881472db0c6a35cb5017b9ef.jpg

A CD

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Gender:Looks pretty Mercurial to me. I also find your midpoint interpretations pretty fluent. That
= /or so seems to be pretty common
theme among singers. Then there are singers that have those/ =type of constellations. For example, Prince, Billie Eilish and Susan

EI C

Boyle have it. I have yet to figure out clearly what it means and how it manifests in context of signing.

You're probably already familiar with Michael Munkasey's "Midpoints: Unleashing the Power of the Planets". It's"go to", definitely the best modern book on the subject I've seen. And I'm still a fan of COSI.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #15 - on: 23.09.2020 at 00:49 [UT+1] »Quote from Domna on 22.09.2020 at 21:37 [UT+1]:
Quote from Alchemist777 on 22.09.2020 at 18:43 [UT+1]:
Quote from Domna on 22.09.2020 at 17:01 [UT+1]:

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Well, I haven't studied the charts of singers enough to have an opinion. But I'm a singer, and Mercury is
mighty powerful in my chart. Rules Sun and Moon, conjunct Midheaven, out of bounds by declination, makes
lots of tight aspects including to Venus and Neptune. I have other common indications too, like Venus in
Taurus for instance. Also

A=C/D and other midpoints...

http://i.pinimg.com/564x/d9/2b/e1/d92be194881472db0c6a35cb5017b9ef.jpg

A=C/D or so seems to be
E/I=C type of constellations. For

Looks pretty Mercurial to me. I also find your midpoint interpretations pretty fluent. That
pretty common theme among singers. Then there are singers that have thoseexample, Prince, Billie Eilish and Susan Boyle have it. I have yet to figure out clearly what it means and how it manifests
in context of signing.

A=C/D could probably turn out several different ways. I can see it as literary talent, or a gift for pleasant communication, but singing isin essence an artistic way of communicating so it fits.
I think of

E/I as, at it's best, a very creative midpoint. A combination of drive and inspiration. To be a really good singer you needcreativity. You can technically be good without it, but to be memorable some measure of creativity is needed.

It is a good take on a subject matter. I was thinking something like "if I listen to this person who has
Ma/Ne=Mercury, how can I recognize it in singing itself". It may be too ambitious though. Among other things,
I find this constellation potentially prolific.
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Alchemist777
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #16 - on: 23.09.2020 at 00:53 [UT+1] »Quote from Ed Falis on 22.09.2020 at 22:57 [UT+1]:
Quote from Alchemist777 on 22.09.2020 at 18:43 [UT+1]:
Quote from Domna on 22.09.2020 at 17:01 [UT+1]:
Well, I haven't studied the charts of singers enough to have an opinion. But I'm a singer, and Mercury is

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mighty powerful in my chart. Rules Sun and Moon, conjunct Midheaven, out of bounds by declination, makes
lots of tight aspects including to Venus and Neptune. I have other common indications too, like Venus in
Taurus for instance. Also
= /and other midpoints...

A CD

http://i.pinimg.com/564x/d9/2b/e1/d92be194881472db0c6a35cb5017b9ef.jpg

Looks pretty Mercurial to me. I also find your midpoint interpretations pretty fluent. That

A=C/D or so seems to be

EI C

pretty common theme among singers. Then there are singers that have those/ =type of constellations. For
example, Prince, Billie Eilish and Susan Boyle have it. I have yet to figure out clearly what it means and how it manifests
in context of signing.

You're probably already familiar with Michael Munkasey's "Midpoints: Unleashing the Power of the Planets". It's "go to", definitely the bestmodern book on the subject I've seen. And I'm still a fan of COSI.

I haven't read any astrological books (besides COSI) for a long, long time. Thanks for the tip. I just might
check it out.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #17 - on: 23.09.2020 at 01:37 [UT+1] »Quote from Alchemist777 on 22.09.2020 at 18:29 [UT+1]:
Quote from Metal_Horse on 22.09.2020 at 13:53 [UT+1]:
I can sing, though nothing special and have a
3rd house is ine Mercurial T-square between b BE & hJ.

b.

If my memory serves me correctly you have something, like

F/O, G/O and E/J=C type of constellations and angular Mercury. Is it

special..that's another discussion. So do you sing just for yourself or is it more than a hobby?

Merely a hobby and happy thing i like to do sometimes, i enjoy it.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #18 - on: 23.09.2020 at 11:03 [UT+1] »It's not that all the astrologers discount Mercury when assessing singing. For example, among Magi astrologers
singing=Mercury is a standard view.

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Mercury rules singing
Since Mercury rules singing, you’d expect that the quality of a singer’s voice would be reflected by aspects
made by other planets to Mercury in the Magi Astrology chart - and this is exactly what happens. One reason
mainstream astrologers haven’t figured out that the aspects to Mercury describe a singer’s voice is they fail tolook at all the required dimensions. If an amazing singer has a longitudinal geocentric chart that doesn’t have
impressive aspects to Mercury, it would be easy to conclude that the Mercury aspects “have nothing to do withit”. But if you’re armed with the Magi Astrology symbolisms and all the six dimensions we work with, then you
will find the impressive Mercury aspects.
http://www.chironmagic.com/singers.htm
Too bad that Magi astrologers rhetoric and the selective use of asteroids is mostly terrible.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #19 - on: 24.09.2020 at 21:15 [UT+1] »Ariana Grande
Ariana Grande is considered one of the best contemporary pop singers. She has an estimated vocal range of 4
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octaves. Pretty high, although not as high as Dimash Kudaibergen's 6+ octaves. She a good example ofsignificant Mercurial constellations that are not evident at first glimpse when looking at the chart. Mercury has
decent aspects though. Mercury is angular and then there are

C s G,C n O,
C n I and
CpJ.
These are nice and potentially generous aspects in the context of singing, but nothing specially spectacular.
However, her midpoint configurations are quite interesting. There is

D/F=C which is fitting for a singer. Another interesting midpoint is
C/ K=FF/K is a highly interesting midpoint. If I had to choose one word to describe this midpoint, it would be"endowment". There is an inclination towards en excess with this constellation which can be a bit annoying
depending on a personal taste too. For example, philosopher Jurgen Habermas has C/K=F too, andpersonally I find his writing style (=endless jargon) pretty irritating.
The biggest midpoint constellation is a T square that is formed by midpoints

C/ F=E,J/K and
D/ K=G
Though J/K=G square is a speculative orb wise. See the chart attached. There's a lot power in this kind of
constellation where you essentially have C (singing), E/F and J (+G) and an inclination to connect with the
public via art (D/K).
Actually, here one can see that D/F is strongly connected to her singing, because this configuration is present
in two different forms. There is D/F=C and then there is also C/F=D/K. One can also note that suitably
for a pop singer, this planetary connection is sexualized by Mars that is present is this latter constellation.
One can also note that there are significant Venus midpoints too. There are

A/F=D (o) and
A/B=D (o)which is pretty much as much Venus as you can get. Chiron is also a part of this constellation as there is
A/B=N. Feel free to tell what this means.
So here we practically see how important both midpoints and Mercurial constellations are in Ariana Grande's
chart.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Grande,_Ariana

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #20 - on: 25.09.2020 at 01:30 [UT+1] »Q: So how can you hear that the singer has C=G/J midpoint/aspect pattern?
A: When he makes voices like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfFPZq7n-E

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That is D8. That requires so much vocal control, that one can expect the singer to have this configuration thattells that he has total control over his vocal cords.
Other high notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFzi146mJ0
All the notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz0MhjXFuzo

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Member« Reply #21 - on: 27.09.2020 at 15:31 [UT+1] »Look for b D 2ndH
Virgo asc no. Mercury not singing, unless it is Laurie Anderson menal like..

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A aro nMember« Reply #22 - on: 27.09.2020 at 15:43 [UT+1] »I haveMerc conj Sun
Merc sq moon
Merc sextile venus
Merc sextile Mars
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Merc semisex neptune
Merc semisex pluto
Merc opposite chiron
Merc trine asc
I just carpool karaoke and I bet ppl would rather me just shut up. But, if I could have 1 career it would be toosing. Music is everything to me
Id find it difficult to imagine astrologers wouldn't consider mercury to be the lead planet when it comes tosinging.
I'd also imagine it depends what one is considering a good singer.

Octaves is one thing. But, voices come inall varieties and some people have sooth soulful or deep and powerful. Some people can't sing lyrics but cansing opera.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #23 - on: 27.09.2020 at 15:47 [UT+1] »Quote:
Virgo asc no. Mercury not singing, unless it is Laurie Anderson menal like.

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I've got f asc. don't think I'm too bad but wouldn't say good either. Did do some backing vocals for a band
when younger and I know of two other f asc. who were great signers.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #24 - on: 27.09.2020 at 16:23 [UT+1] »2nd h sun then?

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #25 - on: 27.09.2020 at 18:05 [UT+1] »Quote from A a r o n on 27.09.2020 at 15:43 [UT+1]:
I haveMerc conj Sun
Merc sq moon
Merc sextile venus

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Merc sextile Mars
Merc conj Uranus
Merc semisex neptune
Merc semisex pluto
Merc opposite chiron
Merc trine asc
I just carpool karaoke and I bet ppl would rather me just shut up. But, if I could have 1 career it would be too sing. Music is everything tome
Id find it difficult to imagine astrologers wouldn't consider mercury to be the lead planet when it comes to singing.
I'd also imagine it depends what one is considering a good singer. Octaves is one thing. But, voices come in all varieties and some people
have sooth soulful or deep and powerful. Some people can't sing lyrics but can sing opera.

I suppose the standard view is that voice is about 2.house and it's ruler. Sure, they should consider Mercury,
but for example, in case of Dimash for what I have seen, that massive six planet yod have been mostly
ignored.
I think that some people don't care about Dimash, because he outperforms all the other previously loved andidolized singers who are now greatly downplayed by Dimash. This is an analogical reason why some vocal
coaches and singers are so upset because of Dimash. As one writer put it
I understand what you feel N.N , you are not alone. Opera is your life, and you are a "virtuosa". And of course
its very hard to our self confidence, our ego, when a genius of this magnitude comes along ( never saw orheard of another one like Dimash in the past or present) and is so superior that shatters everybody elsearound, changing everything by himself. He is the eye of the hurricane. Its like a Leonardo, a Mozart, a Moliere,a Shakespeare, a Picasso or a Van Gogh, a Pavarotti. The only thing we can do is enjoy it and give thanks forbeing alive to see and ear it. Other masters of the "bel canto" already recognize it.
Another reason is probably his highly technical singing and perceived lack of an apparent "human touch" of his
voice. Many get goose bumps from his singing though.
Vocal coach reactions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUqj68t-c0"I hate you so much, but I love you even more"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6CttrpaSi0
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #26 - on: 27.09.2020 at 19:19 [UT+1] »The Carpenters - Top of the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDPMmaHWj1I

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Singer is Karen Carpenter. American musician, a member of a popular brother-sister singing team "TheCarpenters," who sold millions of hit records in the early '70s.
Her voice is light and positive...it is as it was a Christmas song. Luckily, in astrology we have a planet for
Christmas/Santa Clause. We know him by the name Jupiter.
No wonder that Karen Carpenter has a tight CmF, one can actually hear it.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Carpenter,_Karen

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #27 - on: 28.09.2020 at 23:18 [UT+1] »Sohyang
According to the internet sources the three best singers in the world are
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1. Dimash
2. Sohyang
3. Beyonce
Well, if it written on the internet, why wouldn't we believe it?
Wikipedia
Kim So-hyang credited as Sohyang, is a South Korean singer known for her controlled, skillful, and developed
voice who has been dubbed by the international media as the "Korean Mariah Carey".According to Sohyang, hergoal is to use her voice to comfort people who are going through difficult times.
Her take on Whitney Houston's "I will always love you" is remarkable. Maybe the first person after Whitney who
is able pull it through decently. She is appraised for her technical prowess and powerful voice. Critic of music
gives her the highest "Star" rating (only living artist under the same rating are Beyonce and Mariah Carey).
I will always love you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO845EqU3eE
In the chart there is

CmD
CoE
CqF
C - G - I grand trine
CnJ
This time we are interested in power and technique in singing. The power can be attributed mostly to Pluto.
Here we some interesting similarities between Dimash and Sohyang. Dimash has C s J, Sohyang Cn J.
Dimash has also a massive Yod where at one focal point there is Pl/NN conjunction. Sohyang has MP C/ K=J(o ). So both artists have both J and J/K in contact to Mercury. See the chart attached.
Another similarity is O/K. Both singers have O/ K=C ( n). When considering technique astrologically that is
Uranus, and Saturn too. Saturn focuses on correctness in singing. In context of Mercury, Uranus stands for skill
and dexterity as Uranus is a rhytmic planet.

O/K is another interesting midpoint. The way I see it, here Uranian attributes are on the one hand used toconnect with the public (society). On the other hand, there's a natural (subconscious) flow of energy which
amplifies Uranian talents. For example, physicists such as Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton and Richard Feynman
have this constellation. Also Beyonce has this constellation in a form of C/O=K (o ). So no wonder why both
Dimash and Sohyang have such an extreme virtuosity in singing!

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #28 - on: 29.09.2020 at 04:12 [UT+1] »I really have no idea who Dimash is. Internet judgment is however no standard before other than the current
fling. So Beyonce beats Maria Callas.. I have enogh Capricorn in my chart to know that only time will tell.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #29 - on: 29.09.2020 at 05:02 [UT+1] »I cant stand Beyonce

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #30 - on: 29.09.2020 at 09:21 [UT+1] »Quote from Lisel on 29.09.2020 at 04:12 [UT+1]:
I really have no idea who Dimash is. Internet judgment is however no standard before other than the current fling. So Beyonce beats
Maria Callas.. I have enogh Capricorn in my chart to know that only time will tell.

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Dimash Kuidaibergen. Check the first post in this thread. That comment on internet was a humorous
expression...
Maria Callas wasn't reviewed there as she is not a living artist. Not that every artist is reviewed anyways.
Here's a list of singer ratings:
https://criticofmusic.com/singers-by-vocal-rating

Btw. Maria Callas also has O/K connected to her Mercury. She has C/K=O (u ). The whole constellation is

C/K=G=E=O (u)https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Callas,_Maria
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #31 - on: 29.09.2020 at 10:57 [UT+1] »My girl Beyonce!
Let me bring some positivity.
She could really be an opera singer.
Beyoncé Operatic Vocals of Flawless & Bow Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XJsB2lWIEg&ab_channel=QueenBeyVideos

gC (beauty)qE (power)mF (expansiveness)mG (good voice control)pN (healing)
2nd house (the voice) BmO
Her proteges Chole and Halle also have beautiful voices.
Chloe x Halle Sing America the Beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeSAQAob5WQ&ab_channel=NFL
Halle Bailey will soon star as Ariel in Little Mermaid and her voice is perfect! lC
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #32 - on: 29.09.2020 at 11:28 [UT+1] »Jane Zhang is known for having a "dolphin voice"
The Diva Dance(from the Fifth Element)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJl2uPNsJEk&ab_channel=ZhangJaneHK

gAmC rDmG
I've read a unaspected C gives one a powerful/strong voice.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #33 - on: 29.09.2020 at 12:07 [UT+1] »Quote from sòsyè on 29.09.2020 at 11:28 [UT+1]:
Jane Zhang is known for having a "dolphin voice"
The Diva Dance(from the Fifth Element)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJl2uPNsJEk&ab_channel=ZhangJaneHK

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gAmC rDmG
I've read a unaspected

C gives one a powerful/strong voice.

She has one of the best Diva dance versions. Not that she totally nails it. Well, it should be impossible tohuman voice.
I associate that dolphin voice to MP C/ G=J (total control of vocal cords), Dimash also has this
Sat/Plu=Mercury constellation. Another configuration of great technique is C/O=G. She may have anotherinteresting midpoints like C/F=K or O/K=C (u ) but without TOB it is hard to tell. It also depends onwhether you use a real or mean Moon node.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #34 - on: 29.09.2020 at 12:20 [UT+1] »I sing to my cats

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #36 - on: 29.09.2020 at 16:18 [UT+1] »Quote from Alchemist777 on 29.09.2020 at 09:21 [UT+1]:
Quote from Lisel on 29.09.2020 at 04:12 [UT+1]:
I really have no idea who Dimash is. Internet judgment is however no standard before other than the current fling. So
Beyonce beats Maria Callas.. I have enogh Capricorn in my chart to know that only time will tell.

Dimash Kuidaibergen. Check the first post in this thread. That comment on internet was a humorous expression...

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Maria Callas wasn't reviewed there as she is not a living artist. Not that every artist is reviewed anyways.
Here's a list of singer ratings:
https://criticofmusic.com/singers-by-vocal-rating

Btw. Maria Callas also has

O/K connected to her Mercury. She has C/K=O (u). The whole constellation is

C/K=G=E=O (u)https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Callas,_MariaThan
K you, I do respect someone who digs deep. Callas , I remember from s documentary I saw some 20+ yeaars
ago had a weight problem Fi, and made a transformation h asc, very fitting. She doesnt strike me as a
happy person, hwr ego got punctured as young, but maybe that was the secret of her voice? 2nd h sun? I once
read that what you have in the 2nd h are innate gifts, you need not traun themmuch in this life, just dust them
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #37 - on: 30.09.2020 at 00:22 [UT+1] »Quote from Lisel on 29.09.2020 at 16:18 [UT+1]:
Quote from Alchemist777 on 29.09.2020 at 09:21 [UT+1]:
Quote from Lisel on 29.09.2020 at 04:12 [UT+1]:
I really have no idea who Dimash is. Internet judgment is however no standard before other than the current

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fling. So Beyonce beats Maria Callas.. I have enogh Capricorn in my chart to know that only time will tell.

Dimash Kuidaibergen. Check the first post in this thread. That comment on internet was a humorous expression...
Maria Callas wasn't reviewed there as she is not a living artist. Not that every artist is reviewed anyways.
Here's a list of singer ratings:
https://criticofmusic.com/singers-by-vocal-rating

Btw. Maria Callas also has

O/K connected to her Mercury. She has C/K=O (u). The whole constellation is

C/K=G=E=O (u)https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Callas,_MariaThan
K you, I do respect someone who digs deep. Callas , I remember from s documentary I saw some 20+ yeaars ago had a weight problem

Fi, and made a transformation h asc, very fitting. She doesnt strike me as a happy person, hwr ego got punctured as young, butmaybe that was the secret of her voice? 2nd h sun? I once read that what you have in the 2nd h are innate gifts, you need not traun
themmuch in this life, just dust them off..

There are some other interesting constellations in Callas' chart. Such as

C/J=G/K=D (o)C/ F=A-Mercurial Santa Claus midpoint. Gifts guaranteed.

B/K=C (o)-TOB is somewhat uncertain, but this would fit. The urge to feel connected with the society is a primordial
need. That too is why NN is so important. Here Mercury is essential for making the connection, hence singing.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #38 - on: 30.09.2020 at 16:53 [UT+1] »Susan Boyle. Remember her? She isn't one of the best singers but there was something special about her

lCpdEpI that really touched many from around the world.
Susan Boyle Wins GOLDEN BUZZER on AGT The Champions | Got Talent Global
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TuqVtxu9Og&ab_channel=GotTalentGlobal

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #39 - on: 30.09.2020 at 19:47 [UT+1] »Quote from A a r o n on 29.09.2020 at 05:02 [UT+1]:
I cant stand Beyonce

Nice Babe maybe....She "friended me" on Facebook. I didnt stay though knowing she married and such. Also
got a look at her chart, Kala Sarpa Yoga, and probably a dangerous gal to get on her dark side.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #40 - on: 30.09.2020 at 20:32 [UT+1] »My Profile picture, is not Porter Langley. Its actually "Seal" from his music album " Human Beings", I think thephotography is outstanding. The Music is very Good, not my favorite but all the elements are there.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #41 - on: 30.09.2020 at 22:34 [UT+1] »Quote from sòsyè on 30.09.2020 at 16:53 [UT+1]:
Susan Boyle. Remember her? She isn't one of the best singers but there was something special about her

lCpdEpI that really

touched many from around the world.
Susan Boyle Wins GOLDEN BUZZER on AGT The Champions | Got Talent Global

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TuqVtxu9Og&ab_channel=GotTalentGlobal

dE in 2nd (voice).

That E/I=C has been earlier briefly addressed in this thread (first page). I still don't know how one can hearit..maybe this is due to the fact that Neptune can sound anything and imitate everything? For example, Billie
Eilish, Prince and Whitney Houston has have this constellation.
So she has C/I=E (n). I think that CnJ works even though the orb is ~10 degrees. She too has these"good technique" etc. constellations

C/O=K (o)C/G=O (n)D/K=B/C maybe on the AC/DC axis. It seems fitting, but orbwise it is a close call.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #42 - on: 01.10.2020 at 00:10 [UT+1] »Lauritz MelchiorThis is some random opera singer. Well, not so random after all, he is ranked number 6 in the "greatest tenors

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of all time" list. I wasn't familiar with the singer before. I checked the chart, and noticed that there's C- E- J
T square and C/ G=J. So one might wonder if there's something related to these constellations in thedescription. Let us see.

If power and stamina are the hallmarks of Melchior’s art, there is also delicacy in his phrasing and absolutesureness of tone which is never less than beautiful and always appropriately expressive.
https://www.classical-music.com/features/artists/20-greatest-tenors-all-time/

J (power) - checked
E (stamina) - checked
G/J=C ("absolute sureness of tone") - checked
The description and the chart illustrate how astrology works, literally. It is like magic!
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Melchior,_Lauritz
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #43 - on: 01.10.2020 at 17:16 [UT+1] »Quote from Porter Langley on 30.09.2020 at 20:11 [UT+1]:
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I sing to my cats

Felix the Cat says; You do that again, I'm gonna bite your face off.
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Gender:My cats love it. Singing. I only sing to animals. I had a pony love me. My voice. Horses .
Pony tried to come in my home.
A goat too.
I think pony was either a sag or aries.
Goat. I talked to them.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #44 - on: 01.10.2020 at 23:59 [UT+1] »Talking about goats. Some think it's Mariah Carey.
GOAT candidate

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Mariah Carey is a part of "Vocal trinity", i.e Mariah Carey, Celine Dione and Whitney Houston who are
considered one of the best ever. Some even consider Mariah best, so she is running for GOAT (greatest of alltime).
She had control, her voice was flexible, she had growls, vocal breaks, and those holy whistle notes. Her
resonance is incomparable, even Whitney wasn't that resonant throughout her range (she was powerful and hertone was rich, but she wasn't as resonant as Mariah when their upper belting ranges are compared). She could
do the most insane runs (slow and fast) and her melismas are so accurate and melodically fitting in all of her
vocal registers including the whistle register. Prime Mariah was a force to be reckoned with and no one could
ever compare to her ever in the future.
All these GOAT candidates have quite evident Mercurial constellations. They are not always so easy spot, buthere one can't avoid seeing them (assuming TOB is correct). Here we have a big 5-6 planet opposition
structure. At one focus point there is C and K and at the other there's F, O and J. One can note that all
Whitney, Celine and Mariah have O/J=C part of this constellation. In case of Whitney and Celine Dione one
can totally hear that powerful (Pluto) and skilled/technical (Uranus) singing, but in Mariah case that is not so
obvious. Is it due to Jupiter that calms this constellation down? One can also note that this resembles Dimash's
big Yod constellation. The difference is that Mariah constellation lacks Moon and Neptune and those are
replaced by Jupiter. Curiously though, Moon/Neptune midpoint hits Pluto and then there is B/ I=C (n) whichis exactly the same constellation that Dimash has.
Other midpoints to note

C/I=MC
A/C=K=F (n)What do you think? Is Mariah goat?
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Ariana Grande
Ariana Grande is considered one of the best contemporary pop singers. She has an estimated vocal range of 4 octaves. Pretty high,although not as high as Dimash Kudaibergen's 6+ octaves. She a good example of significant Mercurial constellations that are not evident

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at first glimpse when looking at the chart. Mercury has decent aspects though. Mercury is angular and then there are

C s G,C n O,
C n I and
CpJ.
These are nice and potentially generous aspects in the context of singing, but nothing specially spectacular. However, her midpoint
configurations are quite interesting. There is

D/F=C which is fitting for a singer. Another interesting midpoint is
C/K=F
F/K is a highly interesting midpoint. If I had to choose one word to describe this midpoint, it would be "endowment". There is an
inclination towards en excess with this constellation which can be a bit annoying depending on a personal taste too. For example,
philosopher Jurgen Habermas has

C/K=F too, and personally I find his writing style (=endless jargon) pretty irritating.

The biggest midpoint constellation is a T square that is formed by midpoints

C/F=E,
J/K and
D/K=G
ThoughJ/K=G square is a speculative orb wise. See the chart attached. There's a lot power in this kind of constellation where you
C (singing), E/F and J (+G) and an inclination to connect with the public via art (D/K).

essentially have

Actually, here one can see thatDF C

D/F is strongly connected to her singing, because this configuration is present in two different forms.
CF DK

There is/ =and then there is also
/ = / . One can also note that suitably for a pop singer, this planetary connection issexualized by Mars that is present is this latter constellation.
One can also note that there are significant Venus midpoints too. There are

A/F=D (o) and
A/B=D (o)which is pretty much as much Venus as you can get. Chiron is also a part of this constellation as there is

A/B=N. Feel free to tell what

this means.
So here we practically see how important both midpoints and Mercurial constellations are in Ariana Grande's chart.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Grande,_Ariana

F/ K=CSo Ariana Grande has this C/K=F midpoint. I have bumped into this constellation in philosophy where I
have associated it with "endless jargon", i.e. a lot of words, but the story isn't getting anywhere. I feel that insinging we have an equivalent for this and it is this singing and sliding with the extra "uh" and "ah" over andover again. Looks like Ariana can do that too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNtiSvQWyg
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #46 - on: 02.10.2020 at 01:46 [UT+1] »Judy Garland

Judy Garland is one the those who have been considered the best of the Hollywood industry.
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A fantastically identifiable voice – best known for her roles at MGM Studios, but also for her extensive backcatalogue; the entire voice has a warm, rich, incredibly velvety quality.
--Overall, though she is renowned for being an emotive singer, her technique was quite brilliant, and that she
could even sing by the late 60s given her use of drugs and alcohol is quite amazing.
http://www.divadevotee.com/2013/06/Vocal-Profile-Range-Judy-Garland.html
She too has those dominant Mercurial constellations that are easy to see. Below the chart and the paint art.
The constellations resemble that of Mariah Carey except for Uranus that is replaced by Saturn. There are 5-6
planets in the constellation including Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto and NN. (+Moon).
Relevant midpoints

C/ D=J
A/ J=C
A/D=C/J=K (o)C/D=F (o)Somewhere Over the Rainbow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZxmZmBfnU&t=37s
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #47 - on: 02.10.2020 at 16:40 [UT+1] »Had a sing along just now..
https://voca.ro/1dAlZ9t68Tdw
Angular e Mercury. s O m Dsc & South Node, Y & Orcus, in a T-square with Moon square and Mars & Pluto,
Moon opposite Pluto. Was doing other stuff at the same time, so not fully concentrating.
As i said, i can sing, but it's nothing special.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #48 - on: 02.10.2020 at 19:56 [UT+1] »3 more of my recent fave songs that suit my style more. The Weeknd.
https://voca.ro/13zATXLaJXUy
https://voca.ro/15b9tOKUhqOz
https://voca.ro/1iJnjXYpqAbA

I was trying in these.

This one is out of my pace and flow, still had a go.
Justin Timberlake.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #49 - on: 04.10.2020 at 12:59 [UT+1] »Astrotwins
Below there's a chart of Beniamino Gigli (data AA rated) who is ranked number 7 in the list of the greatest
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tenors of all time. If you have been following this thread and you find the chart familiar, you're right, it ispractically the same chart than that of Lauritz Melchior (C rated), who is ranked number 6 in the same list.
Their DOB is the same, the difference is that Lauritz's AC is 7.29' e where as Gigli's AC is 12.00' f. So they
are close.
I suppose the charts represent what all the astrologers have dreamed for so long. Astrotwins that practicallyhave the same life path and an equal success of it. How about that!
Both tenors have C- E- J T square (marked by colour blue) and C/ G=J midpoint (marked by the colour
red). Gigli also has CmDC
Italian opera singer, a great bel canto lyric tenor with a powerful and superb voice. Immensely popular, he
influenced several generations of Italian tenors. In lyric roles, his vocal color showed great emotion; his
pianissimos floated like none other, and one left the theater with a delicious echo in memory.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Gigli,_Beniamino

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Melchior,_Lauritz
https://www.classical-music.com/features/artists/20-greatest-tenors-all-time/
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #50 - on: 04.10.2020 at 14:23 [UT+1] »https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lanza,_Mario
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pavarotti,_Luciano
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lee,_Brenda
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #51 - on: 04.10.2020 at 15:20 [UT+1] »Quote from Alchemist777 on 04.10.2020 at 12:59 [UT+1]:
Astrotwins
Below there's a chart of Beniamino Gigli (data AA rated) who is ranked number 7 in the list of the greatest tenors of all time. If you
have been following this thread and you find the chart familiar, you're right, it is practically the chart than that of Lauritz Melchior (Crated), who is ranked number 6 in the same list. Their TOB is the same, the difference is that Lauritz's AC is 7.29'
is 12.00'

e where as Gigli's AC

f. So they are close.

I suppose the charts represent what all the astrologers have dreamed for so long. Astrotwins that practically have the same life path andan equal success of it. How about that!
Both tenors have

C-E-J T square (marked by colour blue) and C/G=J midpoint (marked by the colour red). Gigli also has CmDC

Italian opera singer, a great bel canto lyric tenor with a powerful and superb voice. Immensely popular, he influenced several generationsof Italian tenors. In lyric roles, his vocal color showed great emotion; his pianissimos floated like none other, and one left the theater witha delicious echo in memory.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Gigli,_Beniamino

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Melchior,_Lauritz
https://www.classical-music.com/features/artists/20-greatest-tenors-all-time/
PS. MH, my girlfriend liked your singing.

My voice is annoying, i have no Saturn contact, only Uranus. My voice changes like the weather when i sing.
Without that capability to fully control it, i have recordings that sound better than others.
Consistency of voice is what gives some artists that awesome lasting appeal as they can reproduce faithfully,
their best vocals, whereas someone like me cannot always do that.
Depth & ability is there oBJ
The passion is there oE
But without consistency...
If i had an agreeable Mercury such as Capricorn, Virgo or Taurus to the Earth Moon & Mars i would no doubt beable to sing more consistently in my better vocal style.

Better recordings...
But not all singers do perform consistently, perhaps i am being too hard on myself?

A post i did a while back..
Singing King by Years & Years, we have the same chart despite him having an Aries Moon & Scorpio rising.
Same Mercury aspects & everything, but he has Sun opposite Neptune (Wide)
Born a day before me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_uoH6hJilc
https://voca.ro/93LbCXk7LvB
I am a much bigger guy than him. If i sing louder i could overcome the lazy sound in my voice, but it's also areally high octave too.
He has an extra Moon sextile Venus & I have Moon square Mercury as an additional. I also have an extra Moon
trine Uranus & Neptune & Saturn.
Although at first the charts look almost identical, i have more Moon aspects.
He has a seriously well aspected MC & i only have Mercury in favor of my MC.

Another James Maslow.
Same chart as mine, different MC & AC, born on the same day as me, as you can see, much bigger guy thanOllie, it's weird but i am assuming either the Scorpio Ascendant reduces or The Moon plays a big role here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Mt_YTPTcs
I doubt his chart is correct, he don't have a 12th house Sun vibe, perhaps 5th house.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #52 - on: 04.10.2020 at 16:00 [UT+1] »I have attempted The Weeknd a few times.
This was my best.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #53 - on: 04.10.2020 at 20:54 [UT+1] »I used to sing in a choir and with practice I was okay. But nothing special.
My voice is kinda high and I practice to speak in a lower tone because I don't want to sound shallow.
Mercury in Aqua 6H. 3H Libra. My manner of speaking is kinda cheeky/flirty.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #54 - on: 05.10.2020 at 17:23 [UT+1] »Singing a more sensual / sexual song, works to my favor.
https://voca.ro/18ULQcXgNvrj
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #55 - on: 05.10.2020 at 19:03 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 04.10.2020 at 14:23 [UT+1]:
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lanza,_Mario
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pavarotti,_Luciano

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https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lee,_Brenda

Brenda Lee
I think that powerful voice is mostly related to these constellations

C-O-J yod and
C/E=J (u)Then there is

C-G-I T square-Interestingly, the orb of CnG is only 0.01'! I associate this aspect (among other things) to goodpronunciation/diction.

A/D=C
Art constellations

B/D=A
D/J=B (also T square)
A/D=G (n) (=C too)
DmMC
American singer billed as "Little Miss Dynamite, the little girl with the big voice," from the time she was a 4' 9"(approximately 145 cm) youngster appearing on a local radio show Saturday nights. She then sang on a downhome country-based station which showcased her talents, "The Wranglers." In March 1956, Lee appeared on
Red Foley's network TV show, "Ozark Jubilee" and was promptly contracted to remain on the show on a regularbasis. She began her career as a recording artist the following year and over the next decade won awards as
Outstanding Vocalist and Best Female Vocalist of the Year.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lee,_Brenda
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #56 - on: 05.10.2020 at 19:30 [UT+1] »Quote from Erich on 04.10.2020 at 14:23 [UT+1]:
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lanza,_Mario
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pavarotti,_Luciano

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Mario Lanza
So as for aspects, there's

B-C-I-"public mesmerized by his singing"

CsF
CsG-I use an orb of 4 degrees here
The most significant individual Mercurial constellation here could be

C/E=O=J/K (n)- A/ D=O is also a part of this configuration-I attribute "vocal power" mostly to this former constellation-there seems to some rhythmic variability or tendency to practice it in his singing, which I associate to his
E/O constellation(s).

C/K=D (o)-bel canto singing
Note also
A/O=AC/MC=C/b] and I/ J

Mario Lanza looked like a god, he sang like a god. He was the world’s first Superstar.
With his heart and soul, he believed every word he sang, with a voice, a glorious voice that came from heaven,and mesmerized all those who heard him.
So, who sang it best?? Mario Lanza, of course! There are no superlatives great enough to describe themagnificent voice of the world’s best tenor, the first true superstar. Mario Lanza had flawless diction, limitless
power, sensuous phrasing, and fearless, dazzling top notes.
Mario Lanza, the romantic hero, with his immense beauty and richness of voice, made Opera sexy! His voice
hypnotized a generation of singers, and inspired Placido Domingo, Luciano Pavarotti, Andrea Boccelli, Jose
Carreras, and many others, to become singers, and was admired by the likes of Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, andJussi Björling.
https://lowiczanka.wordpress.com/2019/05/05/meraviglioso-mario-lanza/https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lanza,_Mario
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #57 - on: 06.10.2020 at 00:10 [UT+1] »Luciano Pavarotti
Some consider him the best tenor or opera singer ever. That may be an over statement, but at least he was one
the most popular. And it seems that after he put some weight, his vocal performance declined.
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MercuryCpG
CtI (0.04'!)
C-O-J T square (marked by the colour green)
Chart and the paint art below. Great singers tend to have Mercurial aspect/midpoint constellations that involve
several planets. This suggest that greatness in singing requires various attributes, and respectively plural
astrological associations. So no single aspect produce vocal genius. Pavarotti larger Mercurial constellation isformed by Mercury and O/J and E/I midpoints. Constellation is marked by the colour red.
Midpoints

C/E=F-strong general indicator of Mercurial aptitude

C/F=ICC/K=D (o)-bel canto singing

C/J=I-inspirational big volume constellation
Venus
Big artist should have big constellations of Venus. Pavarotti has one giant one

D/ F=A=B=K-these factors form a T square
In both his music and his personality, Pavarotti's exuberance was multissimo. His voice — "one of those freaksof nature that comes very rarely in a hundred years," according to conductor Richard Bonynge — had a clear,penetrating timbre, alive with the resonance known to singers as "ping." At the same time it radiated agorgeously warm romantic sheen. He produced it with an unforced, open-throated quality that Italians calllasciarsi andare — letting it pour forth.
http://content.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1659419,00.html
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pavarotti,_Luciano

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #58 - on: 06.10.2020 at 17:56 [UT+1] »I find this singer's (Jyrki 69) pronunciation and diction clear. I'm not a native English speaker though, so may
be a native would hear it otherwise.

CnG (tight)
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https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Jyrki_69

Dance D'AmourDance D'Amour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzec8lzz4k
The Chairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxQmY95T6EA
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #59 - on: 06.10.2020 at 18:40 [UT+1] »Not a native English speaker? Your English is great!

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #60 - on: 06.10.2020 at 18:41 [UT+1] »Quote from p twelve on 06.10.2020 at 18:40 [UT+1]:
Not a native English speaker? Your English is great!

p12

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #61 - on: 06.10.2020 at 23:35 [UT+1] »Thank you for your comments, MH and p12.
Let's review Axl Rose this time. I was familiar with the singer, but wasn't aware that he is so highly regarded
among professional. This is one description
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Axl Rose as a whole package is a 10/10 vocalist,and one of the best Vocalists in Rock N Roll history to thisdate,i will give you a few reasons for that.
His vocal range is unmatched,he can switch his voice from a special slow singer who captures millions of heartson the scene to a scream scratchy maniac and never get tired of it,most of today’s singers get out of breath on
the scene,the ability to shape shift his voice to anything is just incredible,i remember in one of the interviews inlate 90s his Church chore teacher told the magazines that no one exactly knew how Axl Rose sounds,he would
play with his voice and switch his voice to whatever he wants.
His movement on the scene was energetic and motivational,all the snake dances all the running,he is a true
leader by his spirit,someone with leadership skills who can capture the scene with his voice-emotions andmovement,unlike today’s singers who just stay in there singing like a Wax Figure.
https://www.quora.com/How-would-you-rate-Axl-Rose-as-a-vocalist
So he is quite appreciated. One can see that there's a huge constellation in Aquarius. There's

Ek
Gk
Ck
Ak
Fk
Dk
Which are mostly squared by Neptune (no wonder he is such a good imitator - C/I especially) and partly
opposed by NN. A lot of "raw energy".
https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Axl_Rose
You Could Be Mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAOmxtwoEjw
Welcome To The Jungle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #62 - on: 07.10.2020 at 22:43 [UT+1] »Joan Sutherland
She is considered one the best opera singers ever if not the best. Not rarely one can see her listed as number
one.
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She possessed a voice combining extraordinary agility, accurate intonation, "supremely" pinpoint staccatos, atrill and a tremendous upper register, although music critics often complained about the imprecision of her
diction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Sutherland
Simply flawless. The variety presented here is nothing short of mind blowing. Everyone from Handel to
Wagner... and that is well beyond what any other soprano could accomplish with such ease and elegance. The
level of singing you will hear here can only be described as 'beyond reproach'. Sutherland is second to none,
and had a voice that will never be surpassed.
ttps://www.amazon.com/Stupenda-Supreme-Joan-Sutherland-CDs/dp/B00160ZG8E
Let us view the chart. Unfortunately, TOB is only C rated. Chart and the paint art below. The biggest Mercurial
constellation is marked by the colour red. There are number of constellation though, that may be equallyimportant, if not more so.
Mercury

C - E -K Yod-vocal agility can be attributed also to this constellation, C/E is agile

CmG?
-close call orb wise and TOB is uncertain

F/O=C (o)C/J=O (n)This midpoint is t /u :ed by E
-a good technique and high volume/power

C/D=K (u)-bel canto singing

C/F=J/K=G=I (t) - marked by the colour red-modest 6 planet constellation
The point here is to demonstrate how seemingly "harmless" Mercury can nevertheless have significant
configurations. Sutherland's Mercury has more power than meets the eye.
The Art

A/B=C/D-TOB is uncertain, so is this too. General singer constellation
AmDoF and respectively
A/F=D (t)The best of Joan Sutherland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4avjWXsEYZI-yep, agility, one can definitely note thathttps://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Sutherland,_Joan

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #63 - on: 15.10.2020 at 18:21 [UT+1] »Lowest noteThis is Tim Storms who holds the Guinness World Records for "lowest note produced by a human" and the"widest vocal range".
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It seems that an ability produce exceptionally low or high note is related to technical mastery of vocal
apparatus. And it also seems that astrologically Saturn and/or Uranus in contact to Mercury enables this. So it
is convenient that Storms has

G/ O=C
Another interesting midpoints in this that are

C/F=K (o)-general indicator of Mercurial talents

C/ J=E-is Mars here related to exceptionally low note? Curiously, there is also AmE.
Chart below.

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #64 - on: 15.10.2020 at 18:30 [UT+1] »Quote from Porter Langley on 30.09.2020 at 20:32 [UT+1]:
My Profile picture, is not Porter Langley. Its actually "Seal" from his music album " Human Beings", I think the photography isoutstanding. The Music is very Good, not my favorite but all the elements are there.

The chart there is not “Seal”, but rather his son’s chart. Of course Seal wasnt born 2005.
Sealhenry Olusegun Olumide Samuel Is “Seals’ name, and I couldn’t find his chart here on astrodatabank.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #65 - on: 15.10.2020 at 20:53 [UT+1] »Highest note
Adam Lopez is noted for his ability to produce extremely high notes in his whistle register and for his extensive
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6 octave vocal range. From 2008 to 2018 he was a Guinness World Record holder for singing the highest note(by a male).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Lopez
Below the chart. I didn't find DOB of the current record holder, so we have to be content with this one. One cannote that Saturn and Uranus are in contact to Mercury which was the case for the lowest note record holder
too. It seems that these constellation enable the technical mastery needed for the highest notes. Lopez has

C/G=K (o) and
C/O=K (t)Curiously, also Lopez has C/F=K constellation as has lowest note record holder. There is

C/K=F (n)Lopez has AmD where as low note record holder has AmE. May or may not be relevant. Chart below.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #66 - on: 15.10.2020 at 22:06 [UT+1] »Quote from Alchemist777 on 15.10.2020 at 20:53 [UT+1]:
Highest note
Adam Lopez is noted for his ability to produce extremely high notes in his whistle register and for his extensive 6 octave vocal range.
From 2008 to 2018 he was a Guinness World Record holder for singing the highest note (by a male).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Lopez
Below the chart. I didn't find DOB of the current record holder, so we have to be content with this one. One can note that Saturn and
Uranus are in contact to Mercury which was the case for the lowest note record holder too. It seems that these constellation enable thetechnical mastery needed for the highest notes. Lopez has

C/G=K (o) and
C/O=K (t)Curiously, also Lopez has

C/F=K constellation as has lowest note record holder. There is

C/K=F (n)Chart below.

So? The Sun is near the midpoint of his C/G and K is right there! this this some signature for asinger/Vocalist?
The Software is interesting though.
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #67 - on: 15.10.2020 at 23:02 [UT+1] »Quote from Porter Langley on 15.10.2020 at 22:06 [UT+1]:
Quote from Alchemist777 on 15.10.2020 at 20:53 [UT+1]:
Highest note
Adam Lopez is noted for his ability to produce extremely high notes in his whistle register and for his extensive 6 octave

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vocal range. From 2008 to 2018 he was a Guinness World Record holder for singing the highest note (by a male).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Lopez
Below the chart. I didn't find DOB of the current record holder, so we have to be content with this one. One can note that
Saturn and Uranus are in contact to Mercury which was the case for the lowest note record holder too. It seems that these
constellation enable the technical mastery needed for the highest notes. Lopez has

C/G=K (o) and
C/O=K (t)Curiously, also Lopez has

C/F=K constellation as has lowest note record holder. There is

C/K=F (n)Chart below.

So? The Sun is near the midpoint of his

C/G and K is right there! this this some signature for a singer/Vocalist?

The Software is interesting though.

Software? Orb for C/G=A is ~6 degrees, i.e. way too much. If I had to point one signature constellation for asinger, it would be C/D=A type of constellation.
Georgia Brown (29.6.1980) is another high note singer, she has allegedly sung G10 (I doubt that - you would
have to be a dog to hear that). Very high note singer anyway.
She too apparently has these technical constellations

C/G=K and
C/G=O (o)These are to be taken with a grain of salt though as constellations are sensitive to the exactness of TOB. And
the source of DOB is unknown.
Edit. birth data corrected
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #68 - on: 17.10.2020 at 23:08 [UT+1] »Software? Orb for C/G=A is ~6 degrees, i.e. way too much. If I had to point one signature constellation for asinger, it would be C/D=A type of constellation.
Georgia Brown (29.6.1980) is another high note singer, she has allegedly sung G10 (I doubt that - you would
have to be a dog to hear that). Very high note singer anyway.
She too apparently has these technical constellations

C/D=A? According to Michael Munkasey's "Midpoints............" "Determination to effectively use yourphysical asset to appear more attractive to other;convictions which convey love or affection; satisfaction withthe person you are; humorous forms of expression." Munkasey, "Midpoints...." pg 153
just Sayin....
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #69 - on: 18.10.2020 at 14:28 [UT+1] »Quote from Porter Langley on 17.10.2020 at 23:08 [UT+1]:
Software? Orb for C/G=A is ~6 degrees, i.e. way too much. If I had to point one signature constellation for a singer, it would be C/D=A
type of constellation.
Georgia Brown (29.6.1980) is another high note singer, she has allegedly sung G10 (I doubt that - you would have to be a dog to hear

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that). Very high note singer anyway.
She too apparently has these technical constellations

C/D=A? According to Michael Munkasey's "Midpoints............" "Determination to effectively use your physical asset to appear more
attractive to other;convictions which convey love or affection; satisfaction with the person you are; humorous forms of expression."
Munkasey, "Midpoints...." pg 153
just Sayin....

C/D=A according to COSI
An appreciation and keen sense of physical form, sculpture, architecture, a sense of beauty, vanity or conceit,
self-glorification. - Sympathy and compassion, thoughts of love, creative activity, an art which can be ofpractical use, recognition.
Not that we need cook book descriptions to interpret these constellations. We can "cook" these interpretations
on our own. For example, one can consider that D modifies speech (Mercury) into art, i.e signing.
That being said, one can nevertheless note that COSI states practically the same thing that was presented in
the OP.
Mercury
Biological Correspondence
The motor-nerves (speech and hearing organs).
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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #70 - on: 29.10.2020 at 18:01 [UT] »Did I miss it or has Mercury=Jupiter/Pluto not been mentioned? That combination of Ju/Plu is seen usually inthe charts of billionaires and highly powerful individuals, so it surprises me that its not present in the charts ofany of the singers mentioned. Perhaps metal singers? Or someone like Diamanda Galas, who definitely sends achill down your spine with her voice (pluto).

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Re: Singing and Mercury« Reply #71 - on: 29.10.2020 at 19:10 [UT] »Quote from Juvia- on 29.10.2020 at 18:01 [UT]:
Did I miss it or has Mercury=Jupiter/Pluto not been mentioned? That combination of Ju/Plu is seen usually in the charts of billionaires andhighly powerful individuals, so it surprises me that its not present in the charts of any of the singers mentioned. Perhaps metal singers? Or
someone like Diamanda Galas, who definitely sends a chill down your spine with her voice (pluto).

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My impression is so far that F/J is not as powerful and impressive as one might expect, however there arenumber of big names who have it. Singers like Domingo, Carreras, Mariah Carey, Karen Carpenter, Tina Turner,
Barbra Streisand and Dolly Parton for example.
Dolly Parton - I Will Always Love You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDqqm_gTPjc
Once I got use to it, I started to prefer this original version over Whitney's.
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