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« on: 07.06.2010 at 10:57 [UT+1] »Anyone in the forum knowledgeable about past lives? Is it possible to draw any conclusions regarding one's
past life from one's present life? Does the present chart help in understanding past life issues?
I would like to know about my past life. Which chart do I need to post ? As always any help is greatly
appreciated ! Am a comparatively new member and learning from you guys everyday !
Anyone interested in this topic, please feel free to share any insights !

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Lee Rutland

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« Reply #1 - on: 07.06.2010 at 11:27 [UT+1] »No one is knowledgeable about past lives.
We hope the theory is a fact, but we don't know.
There are various astrological things that make one consider it, like strong aspects to Saturn, that suggest priordevelopment, but we just don't know.
There are techniques of "past life regression" by hypnosis, but those are highly suspect, given the idea of thepower of suggestion.

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« Reply #2 - on: 07.06.2010 at 11:44 [UT+1] »North and South Nodes and aspects to them by other planets can be interpreted from a past-life perspective.
I'm reading a book right now by Celeste Teal called Lunar Nodes: Discover Your Node's Karmic Mission. It's notreally a book about past-life regression but it's about reading North and South Nodes with respect toidentifying karmic issues.
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Gender:I've been told by two astrologers I was tortured to death in a previous life for speaking out against some sortof cultural or religious issue, or either suffered a tortured death because I did not speak out when I should
have.
That's a fun thing to hear always.

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« Reply #3 - on: 07.06.2010 at 12:01 [UT+1] »Martin Schuemman(?) wrote a book about Nodes and past lives. The definition of the South Node is what webring into this life.
I think Hollywood and folks like Shirley McClain made reincarnation look ridiculous with her 30,000 year old"Channel".
But take that away and look at case studies by Colin Wilson and others and the possibilities for reincarnation
are there.
Could very well explain some memories I have.
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« Reply #4 - on: 07.06.2010 at 13:17 [UT+1] »All astrologers approach it differently, and no one is certain about the truth in this area. Someread the natal chart as trines showing talents learned from a past life. The hard aspects
signifying areas we are working on in this life. Jeff Green uses Pluto and the nodes. Pluto iswhere the soul left off last lifetime and the sign/house opposite natal Pluto as your soul growth
this lifetime. The separating wide aspects are seen as aspects of ourselves that we have lived withfor a long time. o s signify longtime issues, meaning they are embedded deeply within us, especially
if in fixed signs. Cardinal squares represent karma in the making. Mutable squares show the mostrecent life.

Sextiles signify karma in suspension. There is so much stuff out there, and I don't

know what is right. Evolutionary astrology and philosophy follows the view that we have all lived
before. They say all planets have south nodes, but its the Moon south nodes that we read. Jeff
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Green said something about Uranus holding memories and thoughts.

Gender:Edited:Uranus also correlates, in complete detail, to all memories of this and other lives. This is why it is called the higher octaveof Mercury. Most of us can't remember in explicit detail what we did two days ago. So my question is, where do all thesememories go? Mercury correlates to what we can consciously recall in the form of memories, and to that which you havelearned and been taught. But Uranus correlates to all the memories and knowledge that has ever come before, to thatwhich you can't necessarily recall consciously. Uranus also correlates to all the information that pertains to your larger
future. In other words, it contains in blue-print-like way, abstract information that relates to your larger future.

Apparently Uranus can release all information from the past which has been suppressed and before wemove into the future we have to be free of the past.
It all confuses me to be honest. I know we cannot extract specific facts from a chart. We can lookat a natal Venus-Pluto contact and MAYBE say in a past life you have experienced a trauma related
to your lover, it may have involved death, abandonment, abuse, manipulation, threats, etc. I am
interested and wary of astrological theories around past lives.There was a book that said Neptune
rules karmic debt and Saturn rules the lesson. Neptune's house placement showing where we need tosacrifice our self interest and where we can redeem ourselves. We have to unselfishly serve in thishouse but other astrologers tells us this is where we sacrifice too much and need to use more
discrimination. My poor head hurts with too many contradictions.
Quote:To the caterpillar reincarnation was difficult to understand, but to he butterfly it was a fact for he transcend one physical form into another,never losing the true essence of himself in the process.

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« Reply #5 - on: 07.06.2010 at 13:40 [UT+1] »I would say the whole chart is a picture of our past lives if you believe in them.
The nodes of Moon, especially South Node and Moon itself might tell more. B, because often we carry thefeelings and patterns where our memory ends. See the phase of your Moon too.
Sometimes we might see past live hints from our dreams, sometimes through hypnosis or other ways.

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Gender:Our charts are like pictures of the experiences that we have chosen by free will.
This report was nice reading (though abit long), there may be some pearls in there for some, astro-pastlife
wise.
I enjoyed reading Martin Schulmans articles too.
"One frequently misunderstood concept regarding reincarnation has to do with karma. From the standpoint of
the Cayce material, karma is not destiny; it is only memory. These memories are generally unconscious andinfluence our abilities, our faults, even our relationships with others, but with free will we can meet thismemory as a positive or a negative experience. Karma provides us with the potential to learn a lesson we needin order to grow at a soul level, and free will determines whether or not we choose to learn it at this time. The
choices we make determine the next set of potential experiences we encounter.
From Cayce's viewpoint, it doesn't really matter if an individual believes in reincarnation or not. For some it
can be a helpful concept, for others confusing. The main purpose is to allow individuals to become aware of
their true spiritual nature and their ultimate relationship with one another.
In fact, if we can think for a moment about the one person in our life whom we love most of all. then we will
get an inkling of the goal of reincarnation: to be able to love every single soul, even ourselves, with the verysame love."

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« Reply #6 - on: 07.06.2010 at 14:40 [UT+1] »This is fascinating to me.
Shining Ray ~ I find the information on Pluto square nodes interesting. Pluto is the unconscious parts ofourselves.
Celes this makes sense to me. My Moon is unaspected except for the Yod. My SNode is exact conjunction to my
MC.
There is always the feeling of my subconscious and conscious blending. Maybe it is through this I can learn tounlock some doors.

Good food for thought!
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Lee Rutland

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« Reply #7 - on: 07.06.2010 at 14:54 [UT+1] »Quote from Eyesis on 07.06.2010 at 14:40 [UT+1]:
This is fascinating to me.
Shining Ray ~ I find the information on Pluto square nodes interesting. Pluto is the unconscious parts of ourselves.
Celes this makes sense to me. My Moon is unaspected except for the Yod. My SNode is exact conjunction to my MC.
There is always the feeling of my subconscious and conscious blending. Maybe it is through this I can learn to unlock some doors.

Good food for thought!

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Don't you find it odd that you mention your South Node, which is your past, rather than your North, which isthe direction you are pointing towards?
Your South Node is in Aries, same as your Moon...your UNASPECTED Moon (cough cough)....that you have yet
to come to grips with.
Now, I'm not being mean, but simply reminding you as a friend. And, yes, I am your friend. My Moon is inAries, too. Remember?

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« Reply #8 - on: 07.06.2010 at 14:58 [UT+1] »Now, as an aside for the purpose of the thread, although we can't prove reincarnation, I use it as a "working
theory", as it helps explaining a chart to someone, and, frankly, makes the most sense of anything I can thinkof.
But, I can't prove it.

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« Reply #9 - on: 07.06.2010 at 15:32 [UT+1] »Quote from Lee Rutland on 07.06.2010 at 14:54 [UT+1]:
Quote from Eyesis on 07.06.2010 at 14:40 [UT+1]:
This is fascinating to me.
Shining Ray ~ I find the information on Pluto square nodes interesting. Pluto is the unconscious parts of ourselves.
Celes this makes sense to me. My Moon is unaspected except for the Yod. My SNode is exact conjunction to

my MC.
There is always the feeling of my subconscious and conscious blending. Maybe it is through this I can learn to unlock somedoors.

Good food for thought!
Don't you find it odd that you mention your South Node, which is your past, rather than your North, which is the direction you are pointing
towards?
Your South Node is in Aries, same as your Moon...your UNASPECTED Moon (cough cough)....that you have yet to come to grips with.
Now, I'm not being mean, but simply reminding you as a friend. And, yes, I am your friend. My Moon is in Aries, too.

Remember?

Yes! Thank you and ditto.
Truthfully I only found out that I was an Aries moon when I came here.
For what ever reason I am not grasping it.
Both of us have 9th too.
I could use a little explanation.
Well that NNode on IC. Hard to put into words so I don't. I could ramble for days with Jupiter/Nept. conj.
Makes for an interesting "Home".
No it can't be proved yet, the Mind has capacities that science will probably NEVER explain. Unless they figureout that our unconscious/subconscious moves through time and space.
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« Reply #10 - on: 07.06.2010 at 15:42 [UT+1] »Good thread. I think that dreams, particularly unusual childhood dreams, are a key to understanding. I dostrongly believe in reincarnation and karma, though I'll admit (like everyone else here) that I don't fully
understand it.

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Gender:My Saturn is conjunct my south node and IC, my moon is conjunct my north node and IC. I have a lot ofsquares in my chart, along with a rather unusual aspect pattern of exact semisextiles (I started a thread about
this a couple of days ago and the pattern remains a mystery-if anyone's got any suggestions I'd sure like tohear them!)
When I was a kid, I often had vivid color dreams about some very unusual things, and they often repeatedthemselves. In one I was living in a cave with a community of really good people. Life was hard, but we were
free. A gang of horsemen kept coming up to the entrance of the cave, trying to bribe us to go with them. I
refused, telling my friends that it was a trick and the horsemen were really trying to enslave us. This, mind you,was a dream I had when I was about 8 years old! In another series of dreams I had, also in childhood, I was apolar bear. I could really feel what it was like to be a bear. I had lots of adventures, most of them pretty funny(I was adopted as a mascot by a college football team in one). Now, if these aren't karmic I don't know what is.
But I can't say I actually understand what they mean. I still have odd vivid dreams sometimes, but the stressesof adulthood seem to have dimmed the flow a bit.
Anyone else have any good ones to relate?

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« Reply #11 - on: 07.06.2010 at 15:47 [UT+1] »Anyone here have O conjunct IC? I have this placement and have experienced what I believe to be past life
memories. I also have B/12th . Have had quite a few very intense dreams that I feel might be related to past
lives. I think that when you die and enter a new life your surroundings can be very similar to those that were in
the previous life so it can make it difficult knowing if you are recalling something from a past life or earlychildhood. But either way I think it's all tied in and a continuation of the same story.

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« Reply #12 - on: 07.06.2010 at 17:07 [UT+1] »Lee, the reason I do not mention my NNode, is because I have lived my life for other people.
I very rarely ask anyone for anything. If I do then there is definitely a need there.
As far as being needy, I do not need what I do not have.
I am just not sure what it is you believe I am not coming to grips with.

My SNodeMC; I would like to think would be a way for me to find the most satisfaction.
It is also exact conjunct M.

To build a home out my IC/NNode FI. 4th. My home is where I hang my Essence??
This could be a very deep subject. And it does explain dreams, sensations, thoughts from nowhere, etc. and I
have a clear path to search.
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« Reply #13 - on: 07.06.2010 at 17:30 [UT+1] »Wow ! I think I may have inadvertently started a good topic for debate ! Lots of interesting points to reflect
upon ! Thanks folks for taking an interest in the issue !

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« Reply #14 - on: 07.06.2010 at 19:39 [UT+1] »I have never doubted we have many, many lives; & often
find ourselves in the same soul pod..
Me- Km pars fortune l- H9; lB H9
SNm nD 10f exact..
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« Reply #15 - on: 07.06.2010 at 19:51 [UT+1] »Wenn something works I use it... I am afraid past lifes will not be sientifically proved , since this kind of thing is
hard to prove in a rational scientific way. But who knows the last 10 years acupuncture and other things
suddenly are proved true :SCIENTIFICLY(things by the way, I tought / felt to work or to be true already).
After reading a book from Judy hall: The karmic journey: the birthchart, karma and reincarnation. (London:
Arkana 1990), I got inspired by this way of looking at a cart. This book is one of those with a lot of inside
about the subject!
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« Reply #16 - on: 07.06.2010 at 19:55 [UT+1] »Quote from Eyesis on 07.06.2010 at 17:07 [UT+1]:

I am just not sure what it is you believe I am not coming to grips with.

Perhaps not coming to grips with isn't the best choice of words. Maybe "not aware of" would be better.
When I look at your chart, I see several things at once, all of which point to a single minded focus you may not

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even know about. First, I see Moon in Aries. I know that one. The Moon is the most ancient part of you, andyou are a warrior of the Goddess. This is the ancient Amazon, revisited. Then, I see the house, 9th. Mother is
your religion, your reason. There is nothing else. Then I see Moon unaspected. Good Lord! She rule the chart.
She has hijacked it. She owns it.
Then I see the degree. 0 degrees. Bam! Get down now!!!!!
OK, then I take a closer look. South node there, in Aries. She's your past in a karmic way and reinforces your
Moon sign.
And' yes, I see Lilith there. I take note of that for future reference, in case Lilith turns out to really besomething.
So I try to be the astrologer about all this, and put it together in a way that makes sense. Your primary Need,motivation, and basic urge, is, To shoot forth, that first bud of Spring, to be first, to manifest yourself, to benumber one (in Mother's Eyes), and to set out on your heroic journey and fight the good fight and win it.
All your other needs and astrological indicators, your Venus, your Jupiter, your everything, can all go to Hell.
You are going to prove yourself, no matter what it costs you....and it has cost you plenty, we both know. And
when you deviate even slightly, you get smacked down hard! You get slammed to the earth, almost destroyed.
And you will destroy everything in your life that gets in the way of making your journey. When I have read theeulogies you have written about Lilith, I just smile.
You aren't talking about Lilith. You're talking about your ancient Moon nature. Who you are in the first place.

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« Reply #17 - on: 07.06.2010 at 20:06 [UT+1] »Quote from Lee Rutland on 07.06.2010 at 19:55 [UT+1]:
Quote from Eyesis on 07.06.2010 at 17:07 [UT+1]:

I am just not sure what it is you believe I am not coming to grips with.
Perhaps not coming to grips with isn't the best choice of words. Maybe "not aware of" would be better.
When I look at your chart, I see several things at once, all of which point to a single minded focus you may not even know about. First, I
see Moon in Aries. I know that one. The Moon is the most ancient part of you, and you are a warrior of the Goddess. This is the ancient
Amazon, revisited. Then, I see the house, 9th. Mother is your religion, your reason. There is nothing else. Then I see Moon unaspected.
Good Lord! She rule the chart. She has hijacked it. She owns it.
Then I see the degree. 0 degrees. Bam! Get down now!!!!!
OK, then I take a closer look. South node there, in Aries. She's your past in a karmic way and reinforces your Moon sign.
And' yes, I see Lilith there. I take note of that for future reference, in case Lilith turns out to really be something.
So I try to be the astrologer about all this, and put it together in a way that makes sense. Your primary Need, motivation, and basic urge,
is, To shoot forth, that first bud of Spring, to be first, to manifest yourself, to be number one (in Mother's Eyes), and to set out on yourheroic journey and fight the good fight and win it.
All your other needs and astrological indicators, your Venus, your Jupiter, your everything, can all go to Hell. You are going to proveyourself, no matter what it costs you....and it has cost you plenty, we both know. And when you deviate even slightly, you get smacked
down hard! You get slammed to the earth, almost destroyed.

And you will destroy everything in your life that gets in the way of making your journey. When I
have read the eulogies you have written about Lilith, I just smile.
You aren't talking about Lilith. You're talking about your ancient Moon nature. Who you are in thefirst place.

Ahhh but don't let the Ocean's surface lull you...
She is becoming unfolding a little more each day
I am truly honored and humbled by response.
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« Reply #18 - on: 07.06.2010 at 20:08 [UT+1] »I have never had past life dreams or any inkling of who I could have been in a past life. I am
still working out who I am in this one. I don't have deja vu experiences often. My partner

would do that all the time, talking or on the bus going past somewhere he "recognised" but hewatches "Most Haunted" and takes it seriously, so don't believe him. I had one experience under

Pluto-Moon with a man that could be called deja vu, but it brought powerful emotions and a feelingof fate. It was Moon-Pluto,so no lightweight in astrology and would describe something like thisanyway, so I

can't tell the difference. Pluto has the power to dig deep into your soul. Pluto isalso about birth-death-rebirth and works in cycles and is linked to reincarnation.
One scientific theory of Deja Vu made me laugh:Posts: 470
Gender:Quote:
Another theory being explored is that of vision. The theory suggests that one eye may record what is seen fractionally faster than theother, creating the "strong recollection" sensation upon the "same" scene being viewed milliseconds later by the opposite eye. However,this theory fails to explain the phenomenon when other sensory inputs are involved, such as hearing or touch. If one, for instance,experiences déjà vu of someone slapping the fingers on his left hand, then the déjà vu feeling is certainly not due to his right handexperiencing the same sensation later than his left hand considering that his right hand would never receive the same sensory input. Also,
people with only one eye still report experiencing déjà vu or déjà vécu (a rare disorder of memory, similar to persistent déjà vu). The
global phenomenon must therefore be narrowed down to the brain itself (i.e., one hemisphere being late compared to the otherone)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Déjà_vu.

I will tell my partner that Deja Vu has been linked with mental illness too. So what sign, aspects,
houses experiences Deja Vu? If it is linked with a familiar feeling would it be Cancer or theMoon/SN. Perhaps all the watery planets, signs and houses. I had the feeling under under BJ that
there was something being re-played.
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« Reply #19 - on: 07.06.2010 at 20:32 [UT+1] »Now it becomes incumbant on me to relate what I said about Eyesis to reincarnation, yes?
OK, the Moon is the most ancient part of you. That's who you REALLY are. The Sun describes a goal you have.
But, you aren't there yet. The Moon is, "been there, done that". That implies, having been here before.
Next her nodes are Libra North, Aries South. Now most astrologers will pontificate about this, saying you mustgo for your North, that is your Path, blah blah. I don't necessarily by that, because the South node is astrength you have, something already developed, which in Eyesis' case is Aires. Here we have a repeating
theme, and I pay attention to those. So, in this case, I would not say the South node is a weakness.
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And, I never pay attention to astrologers who get too preachy about their philosophy...

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Ex Member« Reply #20 - on: 07.06.2010 at 21:08 [UT+1] »Quote from Shining Ray on 07.06.2010 at 20:08 [UT+1]:
I have never had past life dreams or any inkling of who I could have been in a past life. I am still working out who I
am in this one. I don't have deja vu experiences often. My partner would do that all the time, talking or on thebus going past somewhere he "recognised" but he watches "Most Haunted" and takes it seriously, so don't believe him. I had one experience under Pluto-Moon with a man that could be called deja vu, but it brought powerful emotions
and a feeling of fate. It was Moon-Pluto,so no lightweight in astrology and would describe something like this anyway,
so I can't tell the difference. Pluto has the power to dig deep into your soul. Pluto is also about birth-deathrebirth and works in cycles and is linked to reincarnation.
One scientific theory of Deja Vu made me laugh:
Quote:
Another theory being explored is that of vision. The theory suggests that one eye may record what is seen fractionally
faster than the other, creating the "strong recollection" sensation upon the "same" scene being viewed milliseconds later by
the opposite eye. However, this theory fails to explain the phenomenon when other sensory inputs are involved, such as
hearing or touch. If one, for instance, experiences déjà vu of someone slapping the fingers on his left hand, then the déjà
vu feeling is certainly not due to his right hand experiencing the same sensation later than his left hand considering that
his right hand would never receive the same sensory input. Also, people with only one eye still report experiencing déjà vu
or déjà vécu (a rare disorder of memory, similar to persistent déjà vu). The global phenomenon must therefore be
narrowed down to the brain itself (i.e., one hemisphere being late compared to the otherone)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Déjà_vu.

I will tell my partner that Deja Vu has been linked with mental illness too. So what sign, aspects, houses experiences
Deja Vu? If it is linked with a familiar feeling would it be Cancer or the Moon/SN. Perhaps all the watery planets,
signs and houses. I had the feeling under under

BJ that there was something being re-played.

I experience deja vu alot. And I have ever since I was 14, which is pretty much when my Pluto opposite Moon
transit started. I have Scorpio MC, south node conjunct MC from 9th, Pluto also in 9th conjunct SN & MC,
Saturn in Scorpio in 10th. Venus & Mars in 8th & Neptune 12th. And Lilith in 4th.
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« Reply #21 - on: 07.06.2010 at 21:14 [UT+1] »For sure I think we have all lived many lives! I have had memories, and many a dreams of past life events..
However I am not sure that there is a whole lot astrologically to look at other than the nodes to see past lives..
I mean there probably is, but perhaps not really known yet.

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I have looked into my nodes and I just get confused.. I think I have some unfinished business for a past life.. I
have SN 0h mJ in the 2nd, and NN 0 b in the 8th.. All my axis are at 0 degrees.. that could meansomething.. Maybe.. WHo knows..

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« Reply #22 - on: 07.06.2010 at 21:27 [UT+1] »Quote from MercurySextileUranus on 07.06.2010 at 21:08 [UT+1]:
I experience deja vu alot. And I have ever since I was 14, which is pretty much when my Pluto opposite Moon transit started. I have
Scorpio MC, south node conjunct MC from 9th, Pluto also in 9th conjunct SN & MC, Saturn in Scorpio in 10th. Venus & Mars in 8th &Neptune 12th. And Lilith in 4th.

Thanks Mercury, I have Scorpio on the I.C hidden from view. My son has Pluto conjunct the I.C, so much more
powerful and I will be interested in his thoughts on all these subjects when he grows up. He has Mercury in
12th square Pluto. Sometimes I have wondered if people remember childhood memories with deja vu, butwhen I have the experience with people I have never met, that theory has serious loopholes. Most memories
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Gender:from childhood I don't remember, but often a trigger in my environment will bring up a memory I had
forgotten about. It only ever relates to this lifetime.
We are supposed to go through the river offorgetfulness (12th) before being born. If we had past life memories intact it would be weird and would beslightly schizophrenic with these other identities I.

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Ex Member« Reply #23 - on: 07.06.2010 at 21:54 [UT+1] »"Most memories from childhood I don't remember, but often a trigger in my environment will bring up amemory I had forgotten about. It only ever relates to this lifetime". That reminds me, I also have transit N q
I going on right now.
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« Reply #24 - on: 07.06.2010 at 21:56 [UT+1] »this reminds me, did you people checked Huber Nodes charts? it's in the Extended Chart Selection, andselecting that "Chart Style" (outputs a house chart of the Lunar Nodes). I have the book from Bruno and Loiuse
Huber about this technique regarding past lives, and it's quite interesting.

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« Reply #25 - on: 07.06.2010 at 22:04 [UT+1] »Seaside wrote:
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Good thread. I think that dreams, particularly unusual childhood dreams, are a key to understanding. I do strongly
believe in reincarnation and karma, though I'll admit (like everyone else here) that I don't fully understand it.

I had a repetetive dream from the age of about 3 to 6 years of age also-- in it I was a 6-year-old boy-- I think
Native American Indian. What I am about to describe is my interpretation of the images that have stayed withme from the dreams when I was younger. I remember it was night time and there was a circle of people
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around a large fire. The people were all men-- adult men-- and they were discussing something very important.
I was sitting in the lap of one of the men-- but he wasn't my father. In fact, I felt it was my father's death-- orimmenient death-- which was being discussed. It seems he was like a chief-- or part of a "counsel" of elders
who governed the tribe and they were discussing who would replace him. I remember fearing that the likely
candidate who would replace him was going to make my life unpleasant.
Later in life (2002ish - so, I would have been 32 years old), I had a past life reading and at the end of it, I
asked her about this lifetime. She said that yes that dream had been a past life memory-- that the man who
took my father's place had been his best friend growing up-- but they had fallen in love with the same woman-my mother but, it was my father who married her. The other man had been jealous and, when they were out
hunting-- another neighboring tribe had a sort of skirmish with them--- and the other man took an arrow shotfrom the other tribe that landed near him and used it to shoot my father and make it look like it was the other
tribe's fault. She said he did end up marrying my father and I went to live with the Shaman-- in whose lap I
was sitting at the fire in my dream.
In 2005, I was experiencing Pluto square Pluto (I recommend avoiding that one if you can!) and I had somepowerful waking visions, which I believe were also past life rememberances.
I have South Node in Virgo (almost 9 degrees) conjunct my Midheaven (11 Virgo).

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« Reply #26 - on: 07.06.2010 at 22:07 [UT+1] »Quote from gcnorman2 on 07.06.2010 at 21:56 [UT+1]:
this reminds me, did you people checked Huber Nodes charts? it's in the Extended Chart Selection, and selecting that "Chart Style"(outputs a house chart of the Lunar Nodes). I have the book from Bruno and Loiuse Huber about this technique regarding past lives, andit's quite interesting.

Oh.. this is interesting, when I looked at Huber luner nodes style chart, it puts my NN at 0 libra and SN at 0
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aries.. I have my asc/antivertex at 0 libra, and A/vertex/DC at 0 aries. WHat does Huber say about thistechnique?

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« Reply #27 - on: 07.06.2010 at 22:11 [UT+1] »continued from previous post....
Using the Evolutionary Astrology standpoint, my Pluto is also in Virgo (however not conjunct my MC or South
Node). My North Node and Pluto Polarity Point—both in Pisces—ruled by Neptune—which rules my Chart(conjunct my Ascendant). The Virgo-Pisces and 6th/12th House polarity is a strong theme in my chart thatshows up in a multitude of ways.
I write this because I think it is representative of that past life I described (and many other past lives) in which
I played the role of a Visionary (Neptune) and Healer (Virgo/Neptune/Pisces)—ie. as a Shaman or, in the case of
my waking vision, and Egyptian Priestess Doctor.

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« Reply #28 - on: 07.06.2010 at 22:24 [UT+1] »Quote from leigha9 on 07.06.2010 at 22:07 [UT+1]:
Quote from gcnorman2 on 07.06.2010 at 21:56 [UT+1]:
this reminds me, did you people checked Huber Nodes charts? it's in the Extended Chart Selection, and selecting that
"Chart Style" (outputs a house chart of the Lunar Nodes). I have the book from Bruno and Loiuse Huber about thistechnique regarding past lives, and it's quite interesting.

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asc/antivertex at 0 libra, andA/vertex/DC at 0 aries. WHat does Huber say about this technique?

basically, he comments that this type of chart symbolize our "hidden" or "shadow personality", coming fromprevious lives. The chart as Bruno says in his book, is to be read as if were to represent the "archetype" orsummary personality from past incarnations.
He gives some examples relating to this "archetype personality". For example, if you have a strong 5th/11th
axis, or Sun in the 5th, in Huber view's this would symbolize many past lifes as an artist, sailor, performer, etc.
People with 11th house highlighted would also mean past lives living with the aristhocracy, etc.
An interesting remark he makes in the book, is that it seems many people are actually living by his archetype,by his lunar node chart, not actually developing the themes of the current natal chart.
His book is "Mondknoten Astrologie", API-Verlag, Adliswil/Zürich (original editor), 1990. ISBN 84-932790-1-3,
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« Reply #29 - on: 07.06.2010 at 22:28 [UT+1] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 07.06.2010 at 19:39 [UT+1]:
I have never doubted we have many, many lives; & often
find ourselves in the same soul pod..
Me-

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SN nSame soul pod? Meaning? Family, or thread in our life, or?
Krista your response made me laugh because my first thought 'born into a pod, my family pod' WHAT A
JOKE!
Dumb me, I didn't 'favorite' the Cayce past life online software website...very easy to use, AND, very telling.
It's based on your current life's chart.
I recall the Past Life Report saying this life is one of a PRIEST.
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« Reply #30 - on: 07.06.2010 at 22:37 [UT+1] »Jeff Green's Pluto, Evolution of the Soul deals with evolutionary states and makes for interesting reading if
you're into that sort of thing.. thought provoking even if you're not.

(fJ 3rd house,mO here)http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=d3N1VnSVsV8C&prints

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« Reply #31 - on: 07.06.2010 at 22:51 [UT+1] »Quote from MercurySextileUranus on 07.06.2010 at 21:08 [UT+1]:
Quote from Shining Ray on 07.06.2010 at 20:08 [UT+1]:
I have never had past life dreams or any inkling of who I could have been in a past life. I am stillworking out who I am in this one. I don't have deja vu experiences often. My partner would do that

all the time, talking or on the bus going past somewhere he "recognised" but he watches "Most Haunted"
and takes it seriously, so don't believe him. I had one experience under Pluto-Moon with a man that

could be called deja vu, but it brought powerful emotions and a feeling of fate. It was Moon-Pluto,so nolightweight in astrology and would describe something like this anyway, so I can't tell the difference.
Pluto has the power to dig deep into your soul. Pluto is also about birth-death-rebirth and works incycles and is linked to reincarnation.

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One scientific theory of Deja Vu made me laugh:
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Another theory being explored is that of vision. The theory suggests that one eye may record what is seen
fractionally faster than the other, creating the "strong recollection" sensation upon the "same" scene being
viewed milliseconds later by the opposite eye. However, this theory fails to explain the phenomenon whenother sensory inputs are involved, such as hearing or touch. If one, for instance, experiences déjà vu of
someone slapping the fingers on his left hand, then the déjà vu feeling is certainly not due to his right handexperiencing the same sensation later than his left hand considering that his right hand would never receive
the same sensory input. Also, people with only one eye still report experiencing déjà vu or déjà vécu (a rare
disorder of memory, similar to persistent déjà vu). The global phenomenon must therefore be narrowed
down to the brain itself (i.e., one hemisphere being late compared to the otherone)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Déjà_vu.

I will tell my partner that Deja Vu has been linked with mental illness too. So what sign, aspects,
houses experiences Deja Vu? If it is linked with a familiar feeling would it be Cancer or the Moon/SN.
Perhaps all the watery planets, signs and houses. I had the feeling under under

BJ that there wassomething being re-played.

I experience deja vu alot. And I have ever since I was 14, which is pretty much when my Pluto opposite Moon transit started. I have
Scorpio MC, south node conjunct MC from 9th, Pluto also in 9th conjunct SN & MC, Saturn in Scorpio in 10th. Venus & Mars in 8th &Neptune 12th. And Lilith in 4th.

I had similar experiences when my progressed moon m natal J. Actually, some pretty freaky stuff too!
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Ex Member« Reply #32 - on: 07.06.2010 at 23:19 [UT+1] »I looked at my huber nodes chart & my NN is in j. I have a hard time understanding the chart though. So,
hopefully you'll have a look at it. I hope I attached the right one.

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« Reply #33 - on: 07.06.2010 at 23:27 [UT+1] »Merc, what's the sign and house of your natal North Node and Moon?

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Ex Member« Reply #34 - on: 07.06.2010 at 23:30 [UT+1] »B in c in 5th, NN in b in 3rd conjunct IC, SN in h in 9th conjunct MC.

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« Reply #35 - on: 07.06.2010 at 23:39 [UT+1] »Quote from Lee Rutland on 07.06.2010 at 11:27 [UT+1]:
No one is knowledgeable about past lives.
We hope the theory is a fact, but we don't know.
There are various astrological things that make one consider it, like strong aspects to Saturn, that suggest prior development, but we just
don't know.
There are techniques of "past life regression" by hypnosis, but those are highly suspect, given the idea of the power of suggestion.

Probably one couldn't really prove other life knowledge to another, but one can come to have self knowledge inthis area. I've had some experiences which were powerfully verified on various levels. One particularly striking
is the below.
When i was 16, i had a very vivid dream wherein i was in a library and viewing another self of mine who wastalking to this wise man who handed us a book. The book started to play a very real seeming "movie". I/webecame aware that we were also the main character in that movie as well. At one point in the dream, i had 3
different, but connected perspectives of self (which felt kind of odd then).
Long story short, there was a half Native American, half White-English-American healer woman who found thisother self of mine-- a white pioneer type--who had been mauled by a bear and was left dying in the woods. Thiswas very early American period.
The woman nursed him back to life and they had a relationship, but i/this other self ended up hurting her
deeply emotionally.
Many, many years later, i met and became platonic friends with a woman online with whom i had many
unusual commonalities with. One example, I found out that despite the fact that we lived some 600 miles awayfrom each other when we met online, i use to live right near where she lives. Shortly after we met, herhusband whom she was very close with, died very unexpectedly. She was very, very upset and had a very
rough time dealing with this.
I was visiting some friends and family in the state i use to live in, we decided to meet up and one night whilehanging out (platonically), all of sudden when we were sitting there talking, she really strongly reminded me of
the woman of that dream when i was 16. That dream flooded back into my mind very vividly, along with extra
impressions and info.
I decided to feel out this by asking her some questions like was she very interested in Native American culture,
healing, etc.
After she answered positively to all the questions, i decided to just share the dream and the flood of
impressions i had received in relation to that dream and that other life.
When done, she was very quiet and very pale. She slowly began to tell me that many, many years ago, she
got a unique b-day present from an older lady who was her spiritual mentor. The spiritual mentor knew a
likewise older lady who use to do intuitive, other life readings (both older ladies were very connected to the
A.R.E.) and was known to have been very accurate about other peoples characters and life patterns. While thelady didn't do this work anymore, she agreed to do it as a favor for her old friend.
Two main lives were talked about. The one which was most focused on, was in very early American settler
period wherein she was a half Native American, half White woman who was the healer of her Tribe. She met a
White man and had an intense relationship with him. He ended up hurting her deeply emotionally. The
intuitive said specifically, "you and this man have unfinished business together and you will meet him later inthis life and work things out."
I realized why i had become friends with her right before her husbands death, and why i felt such a powerfulsense of responsibility and debt to her, and why i went out of my way to be there for her during this time. I
gave her unconditional love and support when other friends withdrew because they had a hard time dealing
with the constant heaviness of intense, all consuming grief and depression.
So, i couldn't prove my other life knowledge to others, but i've had it sufficiently powerfully verified for me
and that's enough.
And yes, i can relate patterns of my current chart and birth data to one of my other lives--particularly mymost recent one from a linear time perspective. Particularly the reflective, "past", more Yin-karmic factors of
my chart e.g. Moon, IC, S. Node, etc relate strongly to some of his strongest astro energies for that life, andthe general life patterns.
I also realize that my powerful, dominant focus on holistic health, diet, etc. comes directly from that life forthat self had very little discipline and care when it came to his health despite that he knew better and sources
wiser than he counseled him to take better care of his vehicle.
Part of the reason why i was born with Cap Sun in 6th, 2nd house Virgo Saturn, and 1st House Virgo N. Nodeis to balance the imbalance that this self created for our Greater self and overall karmic patterns. The man i
saw in that library dream that i knew was me and vice versa, was this same other life self. He has shown up inother dreams, and occasionally in meditations as well. He acted as a "guide" to me for awhile, but has been
quiet lately.
I should add that with ruling Planet, the Sun in Capricorn CON Merc., with Saturn in Virgo, and otherwise
strong Virgo, Libra, and moderate Aquarius, verifications have been important to me in my nonphysicalexploring.

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« Reply #36 - on: 08.06.2010 at 00:25 [UT+1] »I too find it hard to understand at a first glance, too. It's very interesting that in your case Venus/Mars remains
in Virgo and 8th, they are the only planets not moving zodiac sign and house. Huber comments about planetsnot "moving" between the natal and the lunar node chart, is that the energy behind them flows easily "between
the inconscious to the conscious". So giving this your current 8th house an indicator of well-developed
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interpretation).
It's very notable the change of the Moon from 5th to 11th and Uranus reversing position as well. Huber
comments regarding such wide movements, that satisfying the natal chart "objectives" would be more difficult
or uneasy than in the cases the Moon moves to a nearby position (ie, not the complete opposition you haveregarding Moon-Uranus in the two charts), because in the book he comments we tend to identify ourselves withthe shadow personality and emotions described by the node chart. The square from Sun 7th to Node, thequincunx from Moon 11th to Node in Capricorn 4th/5th (not too far from 5th in my opinion), perhaps would
represents you frequently relating to older persons, among other things.
About the emphasis in the 7th with Sun, Mercury, Pluto (and the Taurus/Scorpio in this axis), Huber commentsthat persons with nodal Sun in the 7th, already adquired a rich experience regarding close partnerships. He callthis type of persons, "already-specialists in the 7th". Now it appears (as seen in the natal chart) you are moreinterested in adquiring and sharing knowledge (7th-->9th), again following Huber notes.
I definitely recommend reading this book, it has a wealth of subtle reflections about the offset between the
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Ex Member« Reply #37 - on: 08.06.2010 at 01:25 [UT+1] »Quote from gcnorman2 on 08.06.2010 at 00:25 [UT+1]:
I too find it hard to understand at a first glance, too. It's very interesting that in your case Venus/Mars remains in Virgo and 8th, they are
the only planets not moving zodiac sign and house. Huber comments about planets not "moving" between the natal and the lunar nodechart, is that the energy behind them flows easily "between the inconscious to the conscious". So giving this your current 8th house an
indicator of well-developed maturity, meaning this conjunction can express fully in this lifetime as it was in other times (in Huber
interpretation).
It's very notable the change of the Moon from 5th to 11th and Uranus reversing position as well. Huber comments regarding such widemovements, that satisfying the natal chart "objectives" would be more difficult or uneasy than in the cases the Moon moves to a nearby
position (ie, not the complete opposition you have regarding Moon-Uranus in the two charts), because in the book he comments we tend
to identify ourselves with the shadow personality and emotions described by the node chart. The square from Sun 7th to Node, thequincunx from Moon 11th to Node in Capricorn 4th/5th (not too far from 5th in my opinion), perhaps would represents you frequently
relating to older persons, among other things.
About the emphasis in the 7th with Sun, Mercury, Pluto (and the Taurus/Scorpio in this axis), Huber comments that persons with nodal Sun
in the 7th, already adquired a rich experience regarding close partnerships. He call this type of persons, "already-specialists in the 7th".
Now it appears (as seen in the natal chart) you are more interested in adquiring and sharing knowledge (7th-->9th), again following Huber
notes.
I definitely recommend reading this book, it has a wealth of subtle reflections about the offset between the natal and the nodes chart.

"About the emphasis in the 7th with Sun, Mercury, Pluto (and the Taurus/Scorpio in this axis), Huber commentsthat persons with nodal Sun in the 7th, already adquired a rich experience regarding close partnerships. He callthis type of persons, "already-specialists in the 7th". Now it appears (as seen in the natal chart) you are moreinterested in adquiring and sharing knowledge (7th-->9th)".
That certainly explains why I am currently & always have been single. Well that & my life path number (1). And
it's true, I am more interested in acquiring & sharing knowledge than close relationships.
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« Reply #38 - on: 08.06.2010 at 01:57 [UT+1] »Fascinating topic. Thanks for bringing it up. I've been around a number of times.
Pythagoras,james the less, maybe james ! of england.
Sometimes the ascendant in one life could be the sun sign in the next. Or the sun sign could be the same.
As you can see from some of my other post i'm here just to stir something up a little. Like taurus's make bad
astrologers threads.
For the unbelievers like Lee check out the James Huston story who reincarnated again. He was the fighter pilot
during WW2.
Yep the dragons tail has lots of info for the past incarnation. oh yes and then there's the future one with me
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« Reply #39 - on: 08.06.2010 at 04:29 [UT+1] »Quote from Lee Rutland on 07.06.2010 at 20:32 [UT+1]:
Now it becomes incumbant on me to relate what I said about Eyesis to reincarnation, yes?
OK, the Moon is the most ancient part of you. That's who you REALLY are. The Sun describes a goal you have. But, you aren't there yet.
The Moon is, "been there, done that". That implies, having been here before.
Next her nodes are Libra North, Aries South. Now most astrologers will pontificate about this, saying you must

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node is a strength you have, something already developed, which in Eyesis' case is Aires. Here
we have a repeating theme, and I pay attention to those. So, in this case, I would not say theSouth node is a weakness.
And, I never pay attention to astrologers who get too preachy about their philosophy...

Celeste Teal is of that opinion as well. Lunar Nodes has a small few paragraphs about soft South Node aspects
to planets giving a person a (not her words exactly I don't think) "bucket" to draw behaviors and fortitude forassistance in working towards actualizing their North Nodes.
I've got Capricorn Saturn 9th House trine and Scorpio Neptune 6th House sextile my Pisces South Node 11th
House. I can't help but wonder if that Saturn trine, from the Lord of Karma himself, is what makes astrologers
comment that I must have done right in the past that provides assistance from the Lord of Karma himself
towards actualizing my North Node.
No joke, I can't help but think that my deal may have been something like this:* Religious, set-apart individual (Scorpio Neptune 6th)
* Speaking out or failing to speak out about subtle energy/right-use of Nature-energy/sacred rites fromsystems or Orders or cults different from ours that's being suppressed by the group/cult/tribe/clan (PiscesSouth Node 11th Groups & Associations House; Virgo North Node 5th Self-Expression house; Cancer Mars Rx
3rd Communications House; BML 2o conj IC and 2o Lilith corridor both in 3rd House; Capricorn Saturn/Jupiterconj 9th Capricorn Cusp)(the Saturn/Jupiter conj is 7o so Jupiter not close enough for sextile SN like Saturn)* Tortured to death for whatever it was I self-expressed or did not say yet perhaps should have (SN/NN at 9o
Pisces/Virgo and NN 1o conj Pluto* Jaw-set to accomplish saying/reframing/doing it now (NN 1o conj Pluto; Taurus Asc) perhaps by utilizing
skills from credentials in a field of service to others (NN Virgo 5th House, Virgo cusp)* Whatever I got right last time available to aid me now (Capricorn Saturn 9th House trine SN, Scorpio
Neptune 6th House sextile SN).
* Goal in this life headed towards something clearly philosophically/religiously sexual and/or similarly"renewing through death" (Sag Sun 8th House, Sag cusp
* Will happen in a visibly Uranian manner via my history/roots/where I "come from" (Sag Sun trine Leo
Uranus 4th House of Roots - only major aspect for either planet)* All this comes through others/fate (8 of 10 planets in western hemisphere, 4 above horizon and 4 below
horizon)Just for laughs, my Part of Fortune and my #1181 Lilith asteroid are a 7 minute conj in 11th House square Sag
Sun 8th House and trine Cancer Lilith corridor 3rd House. My 3rd House has h13, BML, #658 Asteria (anotherastrology asteroid) and natal IC at 22o, 24o, 26o, and 28o of Cancer respectively. Urania, a more recognizableastrology asteroid, is in my 12th House square Venus, BML, Pallas, and Asteria BUT--trine North Node.
I so hope that makes sense. It's a blending of readings and comments from several astrologers, books by
Jeffrey Greene, Celeste Teal, and I can't remember who all else. It's been rolling around in my head for a year.
It's reasonable for someone to be curious about how I reconcile reincarnation/past lives with my belief system.
I explained it in another thread and I promise I'll look it and edit this post with a link to it sometime later
when I'm better able.
My functioning is just about used up again.
By Jove yes, good thread!

Edit: here's thread with my take on past lives, comment #606: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?
num=1274137733/0
Annnnnd...my high-speed has blown up! AT&T has struck again. Yay for dialup!
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« Reply #40 - on: 08.06.2010 at 12:11 [UT+1] »Quote from ominousbubble on 07.06.2010 at 22:51 [UT+1]:
I had similar experiences when my progressed moonm natal J. Actually, some pretty freaky stuff too!

It digs up some fun stuff this transit/progression. I was thinking last night after I posted. I usually take all these thoughts to bed.
I was wondering whether it just triggered a "feeling" B from childhood, maybe a long buried one J.
According to Howard Sasportas, The Gods of Change
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Gender:However, those people who do believe in the theory may be interested in exploring Pluto transits in terms of Karma we are bringing overfrom past lives. Transiting Pluto aspecting the Sun could bring karma back to us through our father or through men in general. If our father
is cruel to us under this transit, reincarnationists may interpret this as our own cruelty as a father coming back to us. Transiting Pluto
aspecting the Moon could symbolize our meeting a woman with whom we have karmic ties, or attracting experiences via the mother which
are related to occurrences in past lives.

He goes on to say about the house Pluto is transiting through bringing up past life issues. Along with forgotten talents andresources. It appears that Pluto is a biggie for past life experiences. Under Pluto square my natal Sun, I was with an abusive
man for about the time the transit lasted. Maybe I was in my own purgatory for past deeds. The only problem with past life
readings is when it crosses the line and says we are having bad experiences which are the result of past life deeds. It might
not even be the case, but it could still be a possibility. I remember reading something by Lynn Birk and he was saying that if
you are murdered in this life. It may not be a karmic issue, you may have chosen to die to bring awareness to people about ataboo issue in society and so forth.
Regarding my own personal hell, I don't think this man who appeared under my AJ transit was a big part of my life. The
experience was, but he wasn't important to me. I should have burnt off quite a bit through the whole experience, it was intense
to say the least. I am not sure of the end process to the event. I don't know if I had the butterfly effect. The movie of the same
name is heavily plutonian. Its all mysterious and a deep dark secret J. Before Pluto will tell me all his secrets he will kill me
first, so I will have to wait until death to find out the answers. If I choose to be reborn, I will question it all again.

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« Reply #41 - on: 08.06.2010 at 12:47 [UT+1] »Quote from Lee Rutland on 07.06.2010 at 20:32 [UT+1]:
Now it becomes incumbant on me to relate what I said about Eyesis to reincarnation, yes?
OK, the Moon is the most ancient part of you. That's who you REALLY are. The Sun describes a goal you have. But, you aren't there yet.
The Moon is, "been there, done that". That implies, having been here before.
Next her nodes are Libra North, Aries South. Now most astrologers will pontificate about this, saying you must go for your North, that isyour Path, blah blah. I don't necessarily by that, because the South node is a strength you have, something already developed, which in
Eyesis' case is Aires. Here we have a repeating theme, and I pay attention to those. So, in this case, I would not say the South

node is a weakness.
And, I never pay attention to astrologers who get too preachy about their philosophy...

ToucheOn my MC, it is my Aspiration to be.
Writhing along the Mortal Coil again.
21* SNode/MC a does form a Grand trine involvng my 18* D Leo and 19* G i quite nicely. O is in that one
also.
The Past is my Future.
My J is the nearer leg on my Lunar Yod, I is the other. In my case I can easily see this as "Finger of Destiny.

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« Reply #42 - on: 08.06.2010 at 13:08 [UT+1] »Generally I feel that there is some sort of spiritual awakening process going on in my subconscious these days.
My relationship with my mother has always been troubled but I seem to be accepting her with her flaws.My
father and I have become more closer over the last few months than we have ever been.
Now would anyone like to comment on past life issues that I may have to struggle with in this lifetime ? I hope
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« Reply #43 - on: 08.06.2010 at 13:44 [UT+1] »Look at your MC, Moon and Nodes!!!!
It is all about your relationship with Mother. And very much in the same vein as mine with SNode, it repeats its
self.
That multi-Tsqare says it all with the lunar quincunx ...
Work out the differences, weigh the costs, adjust, balance.
Very karmic in that sense.
You chose your parents and your life.
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« Reply #44 - on: 08.06.2010 at 14:57 [UT+1] »Quote from Evolving on 07.06.2010 at 22:28 [UT+1]:
Quote from Krista Shipp on 07.06.2010 at 19:39 [UT+1]:
I have never doubted we have many, many lives; & often
find ourselves in the same soul pod..
Me-

Km pars fortune l- H9; lB H9m D 10f exact..

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Gender:Same soul pod? Meaning? Family, or thread in our life, or?
Krista your response made me laugh because my first thought 'born into a pod, my family pod' WHAT A JOKE!
Dumb me, I didn't 'favorite' the Cayce past life online software website...very easy to use, AND, very telling. It's based on your current
life's chart.
I recall the Past Life Report saying this life is one of a PRIEST.
Off to find it, again!

A soul 'pod' is a grouping of souls, family, friends, lovers, enemies that keep ' meeting up' in different
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« Reply #45 - on: 08.06.2010 at 15:07 [UT+1] »Good call, Eyesis.
I agree.
Moon exactly conjunct the MC, ruling the 4th
Moon s North Node
Look at all those planet in 12th

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Re: Past Life?
« Reply #46 - on: 08.06.2010 at 15:09 [UT+1] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 08.06.2010 at 14:57 [UT+1]:

A soul 'pod' is a grouping of souls, family, friends, lovers, enemies that keep ' meeting up' in different forms/lifetimes
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Does that include ex-wives looking for revenge? I think I know where one is........

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« Reply #47 - on: 08.06.2010 at 15:12 [UT+1] »Sure- in a past or future life- you could be her wife or father or brother..

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« Reply #48 - on: 08.06.2010 at 15:52 [UT+1] »@ Eyesis and Lee,I think you are right about the karmic connection. I have felt very deep intense connections with anyone I havecared deeply about. including my family and close partners ! I believe i NEED my parents more than I havecared to admit to them or anyone really ! The same goes for partners. The relationships have been highly selfenlightening and I have grown as a person through them. But it is tough for me to remain friends after the
relationship has ended for whatever reason.
Can you elaborate a little about the multi - T square and lunar quincunx ?

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« Reply #49 - on: 08.06.2010 at 16:40 [UT+1] »Quote from Shining Ray on 08.06.2010 at 12:11 [UT+1]:
Quote from ominousbubble on 07.06.2010 at 22:51 [UT+1]:
I had similar experiences when my progressed moonm natal J. Actually, some pretty freaky stuff too!

It digs up some fun stuff this transit/progression. I was thinking last night after I posted. I usually take all these thoughts to bed. I was wondering whether
it just triggered a "feeling"

B from childhood, maybe a long buried one J.

According to Howard Sasportas, The Gods of Change
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However, those people who do believe in the theory may be interested in exploring Pluto transits in terms of Karma we arebringing over from past lives. Transiting Pluto aspecting the Sun could bring karma back to us through our father or throughmen in general. If our father is cruel to us under this transit, reincarnationists may interpret this as our own cruelty as afather coming back to us. Transiting Pluto aspecting the Moon could symbolize our meeting a woman with whom we havekarmic ties, or attracting experiences via the mother which are related to occurrences in past lives.

He goes on to say about the house Pluto is transiting through bringing up past life issues. Along with forgotten talents and resources. It appears that
Pluto is a biggie for past life experiences. Under Pluto square my natal Sun, I was with an abusive man for about the time the transit lasted. Maybe I wasin my own purgatory for past deeds. The only problem with past life readings is when it crosses the line and says we are having bad experiences

which are the result of past life deeds. It might not even be the case, but it could still be a possibility. I remember reading something by Lynn Birk and he
was saying that if you are murdered in this life. It may not be a karmic issue, you may have chosen to die to bring awareness to people about a taboo
issue in society and so forth.
Regarding my own personal hell, I don't think this man who appeared under my

AJ transit was a big part of my life. The experience was, but he wasn't

important to me. I should have burnt off quite a bit through the whole experience, it was intense to say the least. I am not sure of the end process to theevent. I don't know if I had the butterfly effect. The movie of the same name is heavily plutonian. Its all mysterious and a deep dark secret
Pluto will tell me all his secrets he will kill me first

J. Before, so I will have to wait until death to find out the answers. If I choose to be reborn, I will question it all

again.

OK, here is where I have to take a step back, and put things on pause. There is far too much judgemental crap
in the world, and astrology is no exception. Astrologers, in fact, are notorious for being so cocksure that theirphilosophy/religion is "all that" that they pronounce from on high with nary a thought.
We have no idea and no way to judge anything, and should keep it that way.
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« Reply #50 - on: 08.06.2010 at 17:38 [UT+1] »Member

Oh! If we’re using astrology to determine if we have had past lives with others, then I think astrology is a
MUCH better tool for that than for actually determining the quality? of one’s past lives. When I discovered
midpoints last year, one of the FIRST things I noticed when studying my family’s charts was this connection
with my South Node/MC or with the North Node. Every single person in my family (mom, dad, and threebrothers, and two children) all have some connection with me through the Moon’s Nodes.
I have SN at 8 f 50 (almost 9 f) conjunct my MC at 11 f.
Mom: A is 9 f; her C/D is 11 f; her E/O is 11 f; her C/J is 10 f
Dad: MC is 8 l; G is 6 l; D/K is 10 l

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Brother 1: G/I is 11 f
Brother 2: D is 11 f; A/B is 11 f; A/J is 11 f; G/O is 12 f; J/MC 11 f
Brother 3: B 6 l; A/E is 12 l
Son: A/B is 11 f; A/N is 11 f; D/J is 8 f; SN is 3 f (wide)
Daughter: her Nodes are EXACTLY conjunct my Nodes!!! NN= 8 Pisces; SN= 8 Virgo AND… she also has Virgoon the MC= 9 degrees (very close to mine)
Can you guess which brother I am closest with?
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« Reply #51 - on: 08.06.2010 at 17:48 [UT+1] »Let me add that if I use the Evolutionary Astrology perspective with Pluto—I get more interesting connections
with my family:
Mom: her Venus (2 degrees) and Pluto (exact) conjunct my Moon; her Moon (1 degree) and ASC (3 degrees)
conjunct my Saturn
Dad: His Pluto conjuncts my Moon (3 degrees)
Brother 1: His Sun (2 degrees), Mercury (1 degree)and Mars (2 degrees) conjunct my Pluto
Brother 2: His Sun/Uranus and his ASC/MC midpoints conjunct my Pluto (1 degree)
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Brother 3: His Sun (3 degrees) and Mercury (4 degrees) oppose my Pluto
Son: His Pluto conjuncts my MC (2 degrees)
Daughter: Her Sun/Jupiter conjuncts my Pluto
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« Reply #52 - on: 08.06.2010 at 18:15 [UT+1] »If our Unconscious is for the most part shut off from us then doesn't it beg to question that Past Lives would
be even more so hidden? You cannot make a judgement on something unseen and unknown. Be wary of
subjectivity in regard to this also. There are new souls, old souls, soul~less, and varieties in between. Not
everyone will be a Queen of Sheba or Ramses II. Any scenario is possible, but way too many past life pros willtell you were Somebody important. Remember that even the chamber maid had her importance.
If I was judging my life in this time; by the afore mentioned philosophy regarding my past lives,
I'd be Damned. And I would be instantly droven insane and I am not joking by any stretch of the word. It has
taken years and years to unload such thoughts about my life's events and Karma.
If this is a last go round then maybe it is like taking Finals. I do associate heavy square/oppositions andquincunxii with souls who have been around a while.
As far as personal though there are many children and such that have suffered by others hands unneedlessly
and judging by the use of Karma would be the worst injustice done to those kids. Philosophies need to be able
to include All, not just some.
There has to be Ooooops in there some where.
Lee is absolutely correct on this point.
Astrological bigotry has got to be some of the worst...
a lot of people actually take advice and thoughts to heart and for this reason Astrology should be treated in thesame manner as being a counselor.
Sure we can play with it and have fun but when it comes to the nit and the grit, people come here for guidance.
Just a little morsel for thought.

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« Reply #53 - on: 08.06.2010 at 18:21 [UT+1] »I like your little morsel Eyesis ! Thank You !

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« Reply #54 - on: 08.06.2010 at 18:30 [UT+1] »Quote from Lee Rutland on 08.06.2010 at 16:40 [UT+1]:
Quote from Shining Ray on 08.06.2010 at 12:11 [UT+1]:
Quote from ominousbubble on 07.06.2010 at 22:51 [UT+1]:
I had similar experiences when my progressed moonm natal J. Actually, some pretty freaky stuff too!

It digs up some fun stuff this transit/progression. I was thinking last night after I posted. I usually take all these thoughts to bed. I waswondering whether it just triggered a "feeling"

B from childhood, maybe a long buried one J.

According to Howard Sasportas, The Gods of Change
Quote:
However, those people who do believe in the theory may be interested in exploring Pluto transits in terms of

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Karma we are bringing over from past lives. Transiting Pluto aspecting the Sun could bring karma back to us

Gender:through our father or through men in general. If our father is cruel to us under this transit, reincarnationists
may interpret this as our own cruelty as a father coming back to us. Transiting Pluto aspecting the Moon
could symbolize our meeting a woman with whom we have karmic ties, or attracting experiences via themother which are related to occurrences in past lives.

He goes on to say about the house Pluto is transiting through bringing up past life issues. Along with forgotten talents and resources. It
appears that Pluto is a biggie for past life experiences. Under Pluto square my natal Sun, I was with an abusive man for about the time
the transit lasted. Maybe I was in my own purgatory for past deeds. The only problem with past life readings

is when it crosses the line and says we are having bad experiences which are theresult of past life deeds. It might not even be the case, but it could still be a possibility.
I remember reading something by Lynn Birk and he was saying that if you are murdered in this life. It may not be a karmic
issue, you may have chosen to die to bring awareness to people about a taboo issue in society and so forth.
Regarding my own personal hell, I don't think this man who appeared under my

AJ transit was a big part of my life. The experience

was, but he wasn't important to me. I should have burnt off quite a bit through the whole experience, it was intense to say the least. I
am not sure of the end process to the event. I don't know if I had the butterfly effect. The movie of the same name is heavily plutonian.
Its all mysterious and a deep dark secret

J. Before Pluto will tell me all his secrets he will kill me first, so I will have to wait until

death to find out the answers. If I choose to be reborn, I will question it all again.
OK, here is where I have to take a step back, and put things on pause. There is far too much judgemental crap in the world, and astrology
is no exception. Astrologers, in fact, are notorious for being so cocksure that their philosophy/religion is "all that" that they pronounce
from on high with nary a thought.
We have no idea and no way to judge anything, and should keep it that way.

Exactly my point, one astrologer may say that you are going through an experience because of something"bad" you did in a past life and this MAY be the case and equally MAY NOT be the case. Another astrologer will
say the event happened for your "soul growth". We can't make a judgment call either way. Don't get me wrong
under a Pluto transit you can experience some heavy crap. The planets don't judge, people do.
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« Reply #55 - on: 08.06.2010 at 22:04 [UT+1] »Quote from troy29381 on 08.06.2010 at 18:21 [UT+1]:
I like your little morsel Eyesis ! Thank You !

You are most welcome Troy29381.
Life is for living and to be enjoyed.
For good or for nought.
Every one of us must have Dominion over our own Destiny.

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« Reply #56 - on: 08.06.2010 at 22:29 [UT+1] »Exactly my point, one astrologer may say that you are going through an experience because of something"bad" you did in a past life and this MAY be the case and equally MAY NOT be the case. Another astrologer will
say the event happened for your "soul growth". We can't make a judgment call either way. Don't get me wrong
under a Pluto transit you can experience some heavy crap. The planets don't judge, people do.
Yep! Right now I have t. J q natal A and even that soft aspect is bringing hard times.

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« Reply #57 - on: 08.06.2010 at 22:53 [UT+1] »Oh man, speaking of Nodes and past lives...
My father's NN is 0o opp my NN. Using Celeste Teal's guidelines for aspecting the Nodes, planets, Asc, andDesc, it appears he and I go back a long, long time. A long, long, long time.

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Gender:I am of the opinion that I'm more a collection of stray soul fractures than past lives. I absolutely buy that I've
collected a whole buncha crap that my ancestors didn't finish or do properly. How much is genetic, how muchis "sins of the father", how much is somebody else's Sept 11th type trauma that they fragmented off to savethemselves?

Really doesn't matter if I've now got it and have to handle it, the way I see it.

I've decided that when thinking of patriarchal belief systems, I'm gonna whack Zeus. Cheatin' man, loose
thunderbolt cannon, made his wife close her worship business and for what? A chastity belt!
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« Reply #58 - on: 09.06.2010 at 02:11 [UT+1] »Quote from Lee Rutland on 08.06.2010 at 15:07 [UT+1]:
Good call, Eyesis.
I agree.
Moon exactly conjunct the MC, ruling the 4th
Moons North Node

Look at all those planet in 12th

Yes indeed Lee.
Look at Mars in the chart in the 12h just getting ready to peek through the Threshold.
Work the T o s and s sMars is poised for a return trip.
btw whoever said coming back is a bad thing may be sorely mistaken. Oh Our Mother gives us much to pleasure
ourselves by if we just let it happen. And hey no one said to get hooked, simply ENJOY!!
(My Mars in Taurus is speaking)Eyesisf
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« Reply #59 - on: 09.06.2010 at 07:39 [UT+1] »Can you explain a little about the quincunx aspect and how that is affecting the chart? I know my mars in the
12th makes me prone to temper tantrums and the like which are submerged, or generally hidden from plain
view. I mean nobody knows when I will burst over !
What do you mean by 'mars is poised for a return trip '?

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« Reply #60 - on: 09.06.2010 at 11:36 [UT+1] »Quote from troy29381 on 09.06.2010 at 07:39 [UT+1]:
Can you explain a little about the quincunx aspect and how that is affecting the chart? I know my mars in the 12th makes me prone totemper tantrums and the like which are submerged, or generally hidden from plain view. I mean nobody knows when I will burst over !

What do you mean by 'mars is poised for a return trip '?

It is sitting on the 12h side of your Asc. looking into your 1h of the Self almost as if it wants to be in the firsthouse coming full circle.
Mars is The Active planet.
I gotta look at your chart again. I am waking up.
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« Reply #61 - on: 09.06.2010 at 11:46 [UT+1] »That quincunxii (2) coming from your B and MC to your Node.
Quincunx is where two dissimilar qualities are combined by 150* aspect. It is a Virgo aspect and it involves
adjustment, weighing balancing readjusting tearing down and restructuring.
Some where there is a balance to be found.
The quincunxii in this case to your node shows there is a need for this readjustment. That is what this life isasking of you.
With the Moon it involves Mother family children emotions which are derived so your adjustment may be on anemotional level. That is your goal. In Capricorn control over emotions seems to be the Aspirations, or you
could be the best Hotel/Spa owner around.
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« Reply #62 - on: 09.06.2010 at 13:02 [UT+1] »Hmmm..... Thanks for the explanation. It rings true. I have always felt that there is a lack of balance in my life.
It seems emotionally I operate 'on extremes'. May be that is what I have to readjust or learn in this lifetime.
But sometimes I feel that situations or circumstances always prevent me from showing my real emotions.

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« Reply #63 - on: 09.06.2010 at 13:14 [UT+1] »Yes and I believe single quincunxii are more difficult to deal with. Without the sextile and other quincunx to set
up a natural balance, the singles have their work cut out. Finding and grasping any middle ground between thetwo would be a beginning.
I have Marsb s K Libra. I am just now beginning to understand this.
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« Reply #64 - on: 09.06.2010 at 13:17 [UT+1] »Relationships are always on 'roller -coaster ground' for me !

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« Reply #65 - on: 09.06.2010 at 14:28 [UT+1] »Quote from troy29381 on 09.06.2010 at 13:17 [UT+1]:
Relationships are always on 'roller -coaster ground' for me !

Yes this I do understand all too well. Analysis is difficult but needed. When involving others I constantly have toquestion myself and what I may be projecting into the mixture.
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« Reply #66 - on: 09.06.2010 at 14:42 [UT+1] »Quote from troy29381 on 07.06.2010 at 10:57 [UT+1]:
Anyone in the forum knowledgeable about past lives? Is it possible to draw any conclusions regarding one's past life from one's present
life? Does the present chart help in understanding past life issues?
I would like to know about my past life. Which chart do I need to post ? As always any help is greatly appreciated ! Am a comparatively
new member and learning from you guys everyday !
Anyone interested in this topic, please feel free to share any insights !

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Past life research is my passion. I read the Akashic Records amd look specifically at past lives in relation topresent life issues and connections. I have looked at in excess of 300 of my own past lives through the Records
and many thousands of other people's over the years. I have done readings for many on this forum. I havefound that everything that is an issue in this life has threads throughout the past. We seem to connect with thesame people over and over again and we carry the same types of themes and patterns through many lifetimes.

Just today I looked into the AR at why the Emu is my totem animal in this lifetime. It first appeared for me in
the form of a very solid and anchored concrete statue in the garden of the house I bought after my husband
died. The emu theme and metaphor has been with me ever since, for the past 22 years. In a past life I foundthat as an aboriginal woman, girl really, an emu came to me after I lost a baby who died soon after birth. The
emu often brought me small stones over many years that it collected and carried from across the country. I
believed that the spirit of my child was carried to the ends of the country on the underground water streams.
The stones represented the far reaches of where my child's spirit reached and where the emu would collect eachstone, just for me in support of my belief.
Then one day the emu brought me an egg that she had laid. I incubated the egg, carrying it with me
everywhere, keeping it warm. When it hatched, the chick became my close companion, just as a child would
have been. I wasn't able to have more children. It was a problem with my blood.
As much as I have pondered my chart to see a connection with past lives, there doesn't appear to be any
simple connection. We have so many "other lifetimes" that each past life is a huge story in itself. I do know
though that we can find the answers to the present through the experiences and lessons of the past.

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« Reply #67 - on: 09.06.2010 at 15:17 [UT+1] »Quote from Mrs Emu on 09.06.2010 at 14:42 [UT+1]:
Quote from troy29381 on 07.06.2010 at 10:57 [UT+1]:
Anyone in the forum knowledgeable about past lives? Is it possible to draw any conclusions regarding one's past life fromone's present life? Does the present chart help in understanding past life issues?

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Gender:I would like to know about my past life. Which chart do I need to post ? As always any help is greatly appreciated ! Am a
comparatively new member and learning from you guys everyday !
Anyone interested in this topic, please feel free to share any insights !

Past life research is my passion. I read the Akashic Records amd look specifically at past lives in relation to present life issues andconnections. I have looked at in excess of 300 of my own past lives through the Records and many thousands of other people's over theyears. I have done readings for many on this forum. I have found that everything that is an issue in this life has threads throughout thepast. We seem to connect with the same people over and over again and we carry the same types of themes and patterns through many
lifetimes.
Just today I looked into the AR at why the Emu is my totem animal in this lifetime. It first appeared for me in the form of a very solidand anchored concrete statue in the garden of the house I bought after my husband died. The emu theme and metaphor has been with me
ever since, for the past 22 years. In a past life I found that as an aboriginal woman, girl really, an emu came to me after I lost a baby
who died soon after birth. The emu often brought me small stones over many years that it collected and carried from across the country. I
believed that the spirit of my child was carried to the ends of the country on the underground water streams. The stones represented thefar reaches of where my child's spirit reached and where the emu would collect each stone, just for me in support of my belief.
Then one day the emu brought me an egg that she had laid. I incubated the egg, carrying it with me everywhere, keeping it warm. Whenit hatched, the chick became my close companion, just as a child would have been. I wasn't able to have more children. It was a problem
with my blood.
As much as I have pondered my chart to see a connection with past lives, there doesn't appear to be any simple connection. We have somany "other lifetimes" that each past life is a huge story in itself. I do know though that we can find the answers to the present throughthe experiences and lessons of the past.

Mrs Emu hi,
I find that thought of meeting up with the same people over & over each life time totally soul destroying. I
would do anything to not meet up with the same people I've known in this life time again that includes thecrappy family I was unfortunate to be born into.
It is very disturbing when people like you write stuff like that , are you sure, do we have any free will at all ?.
I know that Under no circumstances, would I have chosen to be born to the people I was born to & I would
have had absolutely nothing to do with alot of the people I have met in this lifetime if I had free will.
I would find it completely impossible to continue living this, or any life if I had no choice in who I was born toin the future. I would rather not live at all.
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« Reply #68 - on: 09.06.2010 at 15:52 [UT+1] »I know that the man I am with right now and I have had many lives together.. We got together while T J was o
my A, T G was m my Asc. Also our Nodes are directly n each others. But even without knowing all of that, I
just knew. You can feel it, its almost like you are just picking up where you left off.. there is a deep familiarity
and comfort, and we were drawn to each other in a circumstance that was very risky for both of us.

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« Reply #69 - on: 09.06.2010 at 18:23 [UT+1] »Mrs. Emu your post and the story of the Emu was fascinating.

You wrote you noticed souls are often reincarnated with same people, i feel so as well.
I do wonder about those souls who choose to reincarnate continents or oceans apart from the last place theyreincarnated to sometimes and what makes souls choose the place.

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« Reply #70 - on: 09.06.2010 at 19:24 [UT+1] »Mrs Emu, it's always nice and interesting to hear from those with direct experience with something rather thanjust theory or dogma.
This is what i have learned about other lives, karma, and this whole process as relates to astrology. When ourmore Total self (our Soul essence or "Higher self" as some have called it) decides it needs another in physicallifetime, it creates a personality (more so individuality) within it which first then is nonphysical in essence
existing in the nonphysical dimensions.
This self is created from the varying patterns inherent/latent, and also experienced, active, within. Or in otherwords, another distinct personality is created by the Soul essence by mixing together different personality
elements and aspects together, which all are within that individual, larger Soul essence to begin with. Somehave already lived their physical lives and are back in the nonphysical, some still in physical relative to ourcurrent time/space cycle, and others are purely nonphysical consciousness patterns and may not choose to live
a physical life ever.
The self that emerges and gets born into the Earth, is akin to our Natal Chart. On average with most Soulessences, there are anywhere from 3 to 12 personalities and lifetimes which get most strongly mixed in to
make up the new personality. This is our "core", and when Edgar Cayce's guidance gave "Life Readings" forpeople, the guidance almost always stuck to the Core set within a person. Again, this smaller set of livespersonalities corresponds to our basic Natal Chart.
But, many, many Soul essences have MANY, many other lives within it's total data bank. Bob Monroe foundout in communicating with his Greater self that he had possibly thousands of in physical lives in his total databank, and was told when asked for a specific number, "oh, we stopped counting long ago."
As we live our life and grow into our own personality and individuality and use our Source given spiritual free
will to change, stay the same, spiritually grow, or de-evolve, different lifetimes-personality dynamics different
from the main set or core within us, will get lit up here and there temporarily.
These are like "sub aspects or dynamics" and these correspond more to the Transit and Progression side ofastrology. For example, we may be a pretty loving person in this life, one with a lot of constructive and loving
personalities as part of our main core or set, but as we go through physical life with it's temptations, suffering,trials, and varying conditions in general, certain sub aspects within our total Soul essence will get temporarily
lit up and concentrated on.
For example, we may have some lives and personalities of debauchery and extreme selfishness within, andduring heavy Pluto, Saturn, and Mars transits or progressions (especially CON and stressed aspects) will
symbolize those sub aspects within the greater self being temporarily tuned into and highlighted for a time.
Usually for the purpose of transforming those tendencies, to balance difficult karma, etc.
Those with Uranus very strong--especially with it CON Asc, in the 1st, or Planet closest to the Asc have apersonality that has been mixed from an extreme palette.
The Greater self decided to mix together very loving, aware, and constructive lives and personalities together
with some of it's most lacking in light, selfish, separative and destructive lives and personalities. The contrast
and extremes between these is quite colorful and intense, and leads to personality very prone to extremism invarious ways and manners, both often within and without.
Obviously the deeper call and lesson to the predominant Uranian is, "recognize the Light within and attune
more to that in a more consistent and balanced manner." In essence, a Uranian life is one about balance andthe necessity for same.
Having come from a past life of predominant Uranus, i know this call and lesson well, which is why I have
Scorp Uranus in the 4th and strongly-numerously aspected to many important and personal points in my chart.
Which is also why i have Libra Moon, for my most recent self spent much of his life trying to find personalbalance, which was quite hard for him to build, but eventually did achieve a more consistent balance in his
latter years.
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Ex Member« Reply #71 - on: 09.06.2010 at 20:11 [UT+1] »"Those with Uranus very strong--especially with it CON Asc, in the 1st, or Planet closest to the Asc have apersonality that has been mixed from an extreme palette".
But isn't Uranus also strong when it's in its own house?
"Which is also why i have Libra Moon, for my most recent self spent much of his life trying to find personalbalance".
As a g A, does this mean, that I have to spend this life trying to find personal balance?
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« Reply #72 - on: 09.06.2010 at 21:05 [UT+1] »Quote from MercurySextileUranus on 09.06.2010 at 20:11 [UT+1]:"Those with Uranus very strong--especially with it CON Asc, in the 1st, or Planet closest to the Asc have a personality that has been mixed
from an extreme palette".

But isn't Uranus also strong when it's in its own house?

All Planetary energy is most highlighted, most directly reflective of self and self strongest consciousnesses
within, when CON the Asc, in the 1st, and/or closest Planet to the Asc.
Much more powerfully indicative than a Planet in it's own house. A planet in it's own Sign is more highlighted
than a Planet in it's own House, but even that does not compare to the above pattern of indication.
According to your chart if fully correct, you would be much more Jupiterian than anything else. Cayce called
Jupiter that of Universal Consciousness, tolerance, broadmindedness, givingness in a more universal and self
detached manner, spiritual strength, a desire to help others irrespective of cost to self, etc. (kind of like if one
mixed Sag with Pisces strongly, but with a little more emphasis on Sag. overall).
Quote:"Which is also why i have Libra Moon, for my most recent self spent much of his life trying to find personal balance".
As a

g A, does this mean, that I have to spend this life trying to find personal balance?

I suspect that may be a good chunk of your life path, though since i do not have Libra Sun i can't say forsure. I suggest talking to older folks who also have Libra Sun and ask them if trying to find personal balancehas been a big part of their lives and life paths.
As to exactly what and where you need this greater balance is best figured out by you and your guidance. I
suspect your recent dream gave you some clues, especially for one with Gemini Moon. That dream seemed to
be a call to greater focus on the Heart and feeling oriented side of life and humans (the Yin and Heart-Rightbrain side) whereas the dream symbolizes you tend to be over focused too much on the head and intellect sideand feel distracted and/or annoyed when others try to focus you to the heart-feeling side.
While Libra is a masculine Air sign, it is ruled by Venus the Planet most connected to the heart Center, and isdefinitely connected to more feeling, right brain and Yin states of being and expressing. Also a sign that
corresponds to closer, more affecting relationships.
Often a person with Libra Sun will grow towards that greater balance via their closer, more affecting
relationships, if they let themselves get emotionally involved with others in that way (usually there is a pushpull with this).
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Ex Member« Reply #73 - on: 09.06.2010 at 21:27 [UT+1] »Quote from direct Jupiterian on 09.06.2010 at 21:05 [UT+1]:
Quote from MercurySextileUranus on 09.06.2010 at 20:11 [UT+1]:"Those with Uranus very strong--especially with it CON Asc, in the 1st, or Planet closest to the Asc have a personality thathas been mixed from an extreme palette".

But isn't Uranus also strong when it's in its own house?

All Planetary energy is most highlighted, most directly reflective of self and self strongest consciousnesses within, when CON the Asc, inthe 1st, and/or closest Planet to the Asc.
Much more powerfully indicative than a Planet in it's own house. A planet in it's own Sign is more highlighted than a Planet in it's own
House, but even that does not compare to the above pattern of indication.
According to your chart if fully correct, you would be much more Jupiterian than anything else. Cayce called Jupiter that of Universal
Consciousness, tolerance, broadmindedness, givingness in a more universal and self detached manner, spiritual strength, a desire to help
others irrespective of cost to self, etc. (kind of like if one mixed Sag with Pisces strongly, but with a little more emphasis on Sag.
overall).
Quote:"Which is also why i have Libra Moon, for my most recent self spent much of his life trying to find personal balance".
As a

g A, does this mean, that I have to spend this life trying to find personal balance?

I suspect that may be a good chunk of your life path, though since i do not have Libra Sun i can't say for sure. I suggest talking to older
folks who also have Libra Sun and ask them if trying to find personal balance has been a big part of their lives and life paths.
As to exactly what and where you need this greater balance is best figured out by you and your guidance. I suspect your recent dream
gave you some clues, especially for one with Gemini Moon. That dream seemed to be a call to greater focus on the Heart and feelingoriented side of life and humans (the Yin and Heart-Right brain side) whereas the dream symbolizes you tend to be over focused too muchon the head and intellect side and feel distracted and/or annoyed when others try to focus you to the heart-feeling side.
While Libra is a masculine Air sign, it is ruled by Venus the Planet most connected to the heart Center, and is definitely connected to more
feeling, right brain and Yin states of being and expressing. Also a sign that corresponds to closer, more affecting relationships.
Often a person with Libra Sun will grow towards that greater balance via their closer, more affecting relationships, if they let themselves
get emotionally involved with others in that way (usually there is a push-pull with this).

I sure don't feel very Jupiterian. But I don't know, maybe I appear Jupiterian to others while not really feelingthat way inside. Probably due to having Jupiter SD natally, I suppose.

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« Reply #74 - on: 10.06.2010 at 01:43 [UT+1] »Nice thread. I had dreams when I was five of events and a specific building. I saw the building in a new city I
was living in for the first time when I turned 40. - I think what i have learned that works for me is to try to betrue to my north node and the house it is in without denying my south node. I think the conclusion I came tois a sense that there is reincarnation - but what matters is this now as this moment is what we have - to build
or not.
North node in virgo in the second house conjunct pluto and path of fortune. "South node in Pisces in the 8thhouse conjunct Chiron. Saturn at 29degrees Capricorn reversed and in the 6th house (there is that Virgoagain). Saturn trine the sun at 25 degrees Taurus is the 10th house. There is that second house and Taurus
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« Reply #75 - on: 19.07.2010 at 22:36 [UT+1] »Quote from Stormlaughter on 07.06.2010 at 11:44 [UT+1]:
North and South Nodes and aspects to them by other planets can be interpreted from a past-life perspective.
I'm reading a book right now by Celeste Teal called Lunar Nodes: Discover Your Node's Karmic Mission. It's not really a book about pastlife regression but it's about reading North and South Nodes with respect to identifying karmic issues.
I've been told by two astrologers I was tortured to death in a previous life for speaking out against some sort of cultural or religious issue,or either suffered a tortured death because I did not speak out when I should have.
That's a fun thing to hear always.

Do you have G in the 3H or C in j? I have heard that too.
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« Reply #76 - on: 19.07.2010 at 22:59 [UT+1] »Quote from gcnorman2 on 07.06.2010 at 22:24 [UT+1]:
Quote from leigha9 on 07.06.2010 at 22:07 [UT+1]:
Quote from gcnorman2 on 07.06.2010 at 21:56 [UT+1]:
this reminds me, did you people checked Huber Nodes charts? it's in the Extended Chart Selection, andselecting that "Chart Style" (outputs a house chart of the Lunar Nodes). I have the book from Bruno and
Loiuse Huber about this technique regarding past lives, and it's quite interesting.

Oh.. this is interesting, when I looked at Huber luner nodes style chart, it puts my NN at 0 libra and SN at 0 aries.. I havemy asc/antivertex at 0 libra, andPosts: 3675

A/vertex/DC at 0 aries. WHat does Huber say about this technique?

basically, he comments that this type of chart symbolize our "hidden" or "shadow personality", coming from previous lives. The chart as
Bruno says in his book, is to be read as if were to represent the "archetype" or summary personality from past incarnations.
He gives some examples relating to this "archetype personality". For example, if you have a strong 5th/11th axis, or Sun in the 5th, in
Huber view's this would symbolize many past lifes as an artist, sailor, performer, etc. People with 11th house highlighted would also mean
past lives living with the aristhocracy, etc.
An interesting remark he makes in the book, is that it seems many people are actually living by his archetype, by his lunar node chart,
not actually developing the themes of the current natal chart.
His book is "Mondknoten Astrologie", API-Verlag, Adliswil/Zürich (original editor), 1990. ISBN 84-932790-1-3, for the interested.

These Huber nodes are a bit strange - it's like the chart has been inverted and re-positioned. So, for example
29 Gemini rises before 1 Gemini - the whole chart movement has been reversed. Also the Asc is now my K
and the K is my Asc. My 4h planets now sit in the 5h, and my IC sits directly between my BmD which is avery significant point as people with A at that point keep popping into my life, and seem to feel connected tome, although I'm not so connected with them - Aries Point.
I'm not sure what this tells me about past life, or what I bring here.
I'm also one of those generation with OmJ which is apparently significant here.
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Re: Past Life?
« Reply #77 - on: 20.07.2010 at 20:25 [UT+1] »My method: http://astroinfo.astrologix.de/spezial/praenat/prenat.htm

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« Reply #78 - on: 20.07.2010 at 20:40 [UT+1] »In my experience I look to astrocartography or chart relocation to validate geographic areas that resonate withpast lives and then go from there. I would also recommend harmonics. Chiron might give some clues too. I
think you must have some gut feeling that can be confirmed by astrology, so you won't get too far withastrology alone.
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« Reply #79 - on: 21.07.2010 at 02:42 [UT+1] »Quote from Darkerhorse on 20.07.2010 at 20:40 [UT+1]:
In my experience I look to astrocartography or chart relocation to validate geographic areas that resonate with past lives and then go fromthere. I would also recommend harmonics. Chiron might give some clues too. I think you must have some gut feeling that can be
confirmed by astrology, so you won't get too far with astrology alone.

Interesting, thank you for sharing the above. I tried it out and saw some definite patterns. I'm aware ofsome other lives, and the one which is my last major one from a linear time perspective, lived in an area
wherein my major Neptune/IC runs almost exactly right through. I associate the IC with deep, influential but
more underground/unconscious past currents (in other words, very karmic and past oriented), and in a moremundane sense--the house/home and Neptune with mysticism, deep psychic receptivity, spiritual service &ideals, Ocean, etc.
Sounds about right. Whenever i go there, i tend to feel a bit "spaced out" in a good way. But, i also tend tofeel when there, the past is in the past, and the present is a gift.
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« Reply #80 - on: 21.07.2010 at 03:24 [UT+1] »Quote from Richard Vetter on 20.07.2010 at 20:25 [UT+1]:
My method: http://astroinfo.astrologix.de/spezial/praenat/prenat.htm

Very interesting. Do you simply go back one year from your birthyear? Keeping the location and time thesame?!
I have a past life regression session this friday. Will be interesting if anything learned from it can be correlated
to my chart or pre-natal chart. Guess I'll find out.
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« Reply #81 - on: 22.07.2010 at 01:49 [UT+1] »Quote from KETaylor on 10.06.2010 at 01:43 [UT+1]:
Nice thread. I had dreams when I was five of events and a specific building. I saw the building in a new city I was living in for the firsttime when I turned 40. - I think what i have learned that works for me is to try to be true to my north node and the house it is in without
denying my south node. I think the conclusion I came to is a sense that there is reincarnation - but what matters is this now as thismoment is what we have - to build or not.
North node in virgo in the second house conjunct pluto and path of fortune. "South node in Pisces in the 8th house conjunct Chiron. Saturnat 29degrees Capricorn reversed and in the 6th house (there is that Virgo again). Saturn trine the sun at 25 degrees Taurus is the 10thhouse. There is that second house and Taurus again.

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Gender:Prior to 2 years of age- on 2 occasions family members that passed away 'channeled' through me before thefamilygot 'the phone call'... I was told I wailed in an unearthly manner & moaned with pain. Both people had passedof sudden heart attacks..
In early childhood- I insisted to my mother I was born on Nov 8 ( my bd is July 22)
In H3- I have nDfm SN &Gf at a later degree

H9- NBl is mK, pars fortune, Ceres
My dA - H1 is m Psyche
I can't explain it- but lifelong- I have always had a feeling I 'hailed' from a far northern place

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« Reply #82 - on: 22.07.2010 at 01:56 [UT+1] »Happy Solar Return Krista!
And why would you insist to your mother that you were born Nov 8th?
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« Reply #83 - on: 22.07.2010 at 02:06 [UT+1] »Quote from NorthernStar on 21.07.2010 at 03:24 [UT+1]:
Quote from Richard Vetter on 20.07.2010 at 20:25 [UT+1]:
My method: http://astroinfo.astrologix.de/spezial/praenat/prenat.htm

Very interesting. Do you simply go back one year from your birthyear? Keeping the location and time the same?!

Posts: 341+1 on this question. I'd like to know, too.

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« Reply #84 - on: 22.07.2010 at 02:09 [UT+1] »Quote from MercuryVenusMR on 22.07.2010 at 01:56 [UT+1]:
Happy Solar Return Krista!
And why would you insist to your mother that you were born Nov 8th?

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Gender:Thanx Much MV ******I Believe it was a past life connection...
This bd year has been tough...
Dare I peek at my SR ???

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« Reply #85 - on: 22.07.2010 at 02:20 [UT+1] »Actually, about the past life method on this site thingy, I think people would have reason to disagree with thismethod because it says
"In fact, medial reports confirm that the Sun's position stays the same during the incarnations."
Medial reports? What the heck are those? And where are these so-called reports? Furthermore, the idea that wehave always had the same birthday throughout our incarnations (if we do incarnate) is directly against many

Posts: 341"reports" (a la Michael Newton) of people who have seen themselves in extremely different, contrasted lives andexperiences and personalities throughout their evolutions. I think research is so far in favor of our past lives as
being quite different from our current lives.
That said, I'm not sure exactly what this site is saying--maybe the regressed chart has nothing to do with thepersonality of the person. Maybe it's about some other aspect of the past life. In any case, it's pretty unclear.

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« Reply #86 - on: 22.07.2010 at 02:27 [UT+1] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 22.07.2010 at 02:09 [UT+1]:
Quote from MercuryVenusMR on 22.07.2010 at 01:56 [UT+1]:
Happy Solar Return Krista!
And why would you insist to your mother that you were born Nov 8th?

Thanx Much MV ******I Believe it was a past life connection...

Dare I peek at my SR ???

Yours,
Krista

You mean, you haven't looked at your Solar Return? Man, I've already looked at mine numerous times & mybirthday isn't until October.
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Re: Past Life?
« Reply #87 - on: 22.07.2010 at 16:50 [UT+1] »Quote from eldnahevitaerc on 22.07.2010 at 02:06 [UT+1]:
Quote from NorthernStar on 21.07.2010 at 03:24 [UT+1]:
Quote from Richard Vetter on 20.07.2010 at 20:25 [UT+1]:
My method: http://astroinfo.astrologix.de/spezial/praenat/prenat.htm

Very interesting. Do you simply go back one year from your birthyear? Keeping the location and time the same?!

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Gender:+1 on this question. I'd like to know, too.

I thought it all explained...
It's an extended solar technique. -2 = the second life before this one (symbolically, regarding the contents, notliterally), +2 = the second life after this one.
And yes, in calculating a solar I keep the location and time the same.
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