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BettysEx Member

General Synastry Questions« on: 19.04.2021 at 07:59 [UT+1] »Such a thread is still missing in the forum, I think.
A few questions I've always asked myself.
A synastry that is so-so. The two natal charts show many similar aspects to planets, such as: B. Venus square
Pluto, Venus sextile Pluto, Sun opposition Saturn - Sun trine Saturn. Are they included in the evaluation as aplus and high compatibility?
How are unaspected important love planets (Moon and Venus) rated? I have already observed this phenomenon
several times in long-term love relationships. Described as a no go in the specialist literature, it seems to work... prominent example Maxima and Willem Alexander of the Netherlands.
That was a suggestion, I hope there will be many more questions ...
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #1 - on: 19.04.2021 at 15:17 [UT+1] »DqJ is + as attraction is sexual while DoJ means more manipulation and power games
AoG is incompatibility drag, while p is good for long term relationshipHigh Compatibilty !
you need many other information.

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If my unaspected D ( love , relationships going unfocussed) and yours or someone else E conjuncts it, it's likegiving life

, battery to my unaspected Venus and double + , imo

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #2 - on: 19.04.2021 at 18:58 [UT+1] »Quote from Bettys on 19.04.2021 at 07:59 [UT+1]:
Such a thread is still missing in the forum, I think.
A few questions I've always asked myself.

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A synastry that is so-so. The two natal charts show many similar aspects to planets, such as: B. Venus square Pluto, Venus sextile Pluto,
Sun opposition Saturn - Sun trine Saturn. Are they included in the evaluation as a plus and high compatibility?
How are unaspected important love planets (Moon and Venus) rated? I have already observed this phenomenon several times in long-termlove relationships. Described as a no go in the specialist literature, it seems to work ... prominent example Maxima and Willem Alexanderof the Netherlands.
That was a suggestion, I hope there will be many more questions ...

I think that one should consider (at least) two factors in synastry:
1. Classical synastry, i.e. aspects/midpoints between charts2. Similarity of the natal charts.
I don't find it particularly important whether person A's Venus aspect B's planets or not.
For example, it may seem that Willem-Alexandre's (WA) Venus 15.41' c isn't doing much. It trines Maxima's(loosely) Mars and trines NN. But this Venus is actually pretty nicely placed. There's a direct midpoint WA's
D/K=A (Maxima) - lunar nodes are important also in synastry - and Sun/D=A.
WA is marked by the colour green and Maxima by the colour red.There is also a lot of similarities between thecharts such as

1. B- D- J T square
1. B- D- J Yod
2.F/AC=D (o )2.D/ F=AC (t )3.B/ O=A (n)3. A/ B=O (n)4.F/ O=MC
4.F/ O=AC/MC
5. B/ F=I=G (t /n)
5. B- F/ I- G(/A) T squareEtc. So overall, it looks like a match!

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Linda Harris

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #3 - on: 19.04.2021 at 23:24 [UT+1] »Bettys,
I urge you to actually post 2 natal charts and a synastry chart using the form,, ''synastry with outer circle (2).''

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Then we can address actual and personal issues rather than Generalizing...which is really BAD. Because all thedata in the chart has meaning in synastry....not only the aspects. So signs, houses and aspects.....
I hate to speculate regarding aspects because the way they operate in ONE couple's chart may not be exactly
the way they operate in the chart of another couple.
ALSO: synastry has a LOT to do with the natal potentials regarding being a good candidate for a successful
relationship. So...both the natals and the synastry must be consulted.
Therefore: in the end, one cannot use the results of an appraisal of synastry of a previous couple to judge thecompatibility of the next couple. EACH couple is unique.
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #4 - on: 21.04.2021 at 10:58 [UT+1] »On to some examples
Him
https://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=g&gif=astro_2at_b_hw.35744.6070.p ng&res=100
Herhttps://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=g&gif=astro_2at_b_hw.35744.6070.p ng&res=100
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #5 - on: 21.04.2021 at 13:03 [UT+1] »Quote from Bettys on 21.04.2021 at 10:58 [UT+1]:
On to some examples
Him
https://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=g&gif=astro_2at_b_hw.35744.6070.p ng&res=100
Her

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https://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=g&gif=astro_2at_b_hw.35744.6070.p ng&res=100
Them
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Linda Harris
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #6 - on: 21.04.2021 at 15:26 [UT+1] »Yes...please ''save'' the individual charts and then add them here via the prompt below.
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BettysEx Member

Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #7 - on: 21.04.2021 at 15:37 [UT+1] »Him

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #8 - on: 21.04.2021 at 15:38 [UT+1] »Her

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #9 - on: 21.04.2021 at 15:42 [UT+1] »Them

😔.. i hope it works know and you can see it.

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #10 - on: 21.04.2021 at 16:15 [UT+1] »I sent you a PM.
But I also have a question: what has made you so interested in these people? Do you know either of them?
Also, the last chart is neither of the two before in the thread. So where does that fit in to your question? I am
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confused....are we talking about 4 people?
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #11 - on: 21.04.2021 at 17:30 [UT+1] »It was two natal charts and then a synastry ...

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Linda Harris
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #12 - on: 21.04.2021 at 19:04 [UT+1] »Betty chart:

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Linda Harris

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #13 - on: 21.04.2021 at 19:04 [UT+1] »Betty's friend

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Linda Harris
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #14 - on: 21.04.2021 at 19:05 [UT+1] »Synastry....Betty's planets on outsidePosts: 17033

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #15 - on: 21.04.2021 at 19:55 [UT+1] »Here is your first question:'' The two natal charts show many similar aspects to planets, such as: B. Venus square Pluto, Venus sextile
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Pluto, Sun opposition Saturn - Sun trine Saturn. Are they included in the evaluation as a plus and highcompatibility?''
He has Venus square Pluto.
YOUR Venus opposes his Pluto.....or rather it should be expressed THIS way: Pluto/Jupiter square Venus.

Your Venus/Neptune and Pluto are sextile.
Also your Pluto and your Mercury are sextile.
Your Pluto and your Mars trine.
So you have a grand trine in Air signs.
The difficulty in YOUR chart is your Neptune conjunct Venus. AND that Neptune/Venus is opposing Mars.
So you are apt to see the man you like in the most ''idealistic'' way...instead of realisitically.
YOU have Sun oppostion Saturn...
he doesn't. He has Sun sextile Saturn.
SO...I'm not sure what your question is really about. Maybe you can elaborate.
There are 2 things I would tell you: First, I think he is not necessarily a candidate for any long term
relationship. He has Neptune conjunct both his Sun and Mercury in the natal chart. AND transit is ON his 8thhouse cusp and square his Sun, Mercury and Neptune.
Transit Pluto is square his Pluto...which of course is a generational transit...BUT....his natal JUPITER is involved,
because as Pluto moves ahead it will eventually (and not that long from now) be square his natal Jupiter...whichrules his JUDGEMENT.
So that means that whomever he begins a relationship now with him will probably be left by the wayside whentransit Pluto moves closer to Aquarius. Pluto will also conjunct his Venus when it enters Aquarius.
Now that is not for a while, but it is a VERY bad transit for anyone he happens to be with at that time.
I see several aspects in the synastry study (3rd chart) which are negative or just not supportive of arelationship. I could not in all good conscience encourage you to put too much effort into this man.
To address another question:
Unaspected planets can be either good or bad...the MOST important issues are the outer planets and how they
aspect the more personal planets in the chart of the other person.
So for instance, YOUR Saturn opposes his Venus....not great.
Your Saturn squares his Jupiter..... not supportive at all. That means your Saturn forms a t-square with his
Saturn/Pluto/Jupiter and his Venus. Your URANUS squares his Venus which brings in yet another planet to thatt-square.
And your Jupiter squares his Moon.
You can't help any of these difficult connections and at the same time you can't CHANGE their effect. It's notabout something you do or don't do. It's just a lack of easy compatibility.
But again, he may be good looking or charming, but he is not a good RISK.
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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #16 - on: 21.04.2021 at 21:49 [UT+1] »Traditional astrology predicts a bad outcome of aspects between the benefic and malefic planets and it isgenerally true, but in psychological astrology it is called the transference and involves unconscious projection.
This is an advanced idea and I don't want to get into it. I will say Liz Greene's book Saturn a New Look at anPosts: 2200

Old Devil gives positive viewpoint of Saturn in aspect to Venus in two different charts in synastry and said than
any long lasting relationship must include Saturn which forces one to face reality and psychological maturity.
Everyone has their flaws and clumsier qualities. I think I recall her saying about this Venus Saturn in synastry"the eternal friendship." ibid.
The Venus person will bring out the Saturn persons fears, and desire to restrict the spontanaety and enjoymentof Venus. Ibid. The Saturn person can be over critical or gloomy. I like to see it as a compensatory relationshipwhere each person can learn from the other if the Venus person is out of balance in some way. I guess thesame could be said about Venus Chiron or Venus Pluto in synastry. Sometimes a strong negative transference,fears and an over idealism or too high expectations keep such a relationship from ever getting started.

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Re: General Synastry Questions« Reply #17 - on: 22.04.2021 at 07:10 [UT+1] »Thank you both for your answered and advises
You got mail, Lainie!
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