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YehuditMemberPlanets stationary direct same as retro?
« on: 03.04.2010 at 21:44 [UT+1] »How do we interpret stationary direct planets in a natal chart? Same as retrograde?
I particularly have in mind G stationary direct.
What is your experience...?

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Re: Planets stationary direct same as retro?
« Reply #1 - on: 04.04.2010 at 11:20 [UT+1] »Since nobody wants to tell me their thoughts, I went & did some searching & I'll just quote bits & pieces ofwhat I've found on the topic of stationary planets:
Stationary Direct
A planet stationary at the position of returning to Direct Motion through the zodiac after a period ofRetrograde Motion. It is the ideal time to make or implement relevant decisions. This is considered to beamong the most powerful positions for planetary influence, especially in Jyotish, or Indian (Vedic) astrology.
Stationary Retrograde
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A planet stationary at the point of turning retrograde. This is an important position, as it indicates the needfor rethinking the issues related to condition of the planet, its sign and house, as they will be raised in one formor another during the retrograde period.
(from CafeAstrology)
1 st station is highly debilitating – and prior to speeding up, known as 2 nd station and more positive – hemust accelerate, building up to his desired speed. Any planet at his station is extremely vulnerable and is going
nowhere slowly – this places what the planet rules and represents in limbo – in Saturn’s case judicial issues, lawand order, structure and so on. “ Usually the stationary planet is weak – though if what you want isunmovingness, it can be helpful. Generally 1st station sees things getting worse, 2nd station sees them getting
better. But this must be read against what the planet will or will not be doing when it changes direction. E.g.
maybe it is refusing to enter its detriment, in which case the change of direction will be positive. Or maybe it
has just made a nice aspect and liked it so much it’s going back to do it again. Once retrograde whatever thatplanet represents goes against its nature and goes backwards or deteriorates.” John Frawley.
In The Beginning of Wisdom, Ibn Ezra says, “When a planet is stationary about to retrograde, it indicates nofulfillment of the desired matter, and difficulty and loss.” Also, “A planet about to turn retrograde is like afrightened person, fearing adversaries that are coming to him.” And John Frawley in The Horary Textbook points
out that “first station is likened to a man feeling so ill he decides to take to his sickbed: he feels bad, and isgoing to get worse.”
These observations make sense when you think of what the planet appears to be doing. Whatever awaits theplanet, at a later degree of the zodiac, will not be reached: the promised contact or aspect – or even change ofsign – will not be perfected. So there is no fulfillment of what is anticipated. The stationing planet appears tous to be changing its mind, backing away from whatever’s down the path. No wonder Ibn Ezra and others
describe it as “frightened” out of its intended route.

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Re: Planets stationary direct same as retro?
« Reply #2 - on: 04.04.2010 at 11:51 [UT+1] »I have no experience with this, but the article you gave as example, certainly makes sense to me. Just thinking
about it, using the idea of "magnetic influence" as a model, I can see how that could work.
I don't necessarily tout that theory, but use it a a Possible explanation.

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« Reply #3 - on: 07.04.2010 at 15:00 [UT+1] »What I know about stations during a transit, from personal observation postfactum of my life and others is thatthe first station is, (as discribed!) the one the situation looks impossible, unsolvable, desperate and scary!
Usually looking back one realizes that the situation at the time of the first transit had not been consiously
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understood yet. By the second station, the problem, comflict, complex being stressed has been comprehended
and the feeling is that things are difficult, but solvable. What occurs in a natal chart is a good question. I don'tremember ever checking a natal chart to see which station the stationary planet is in...
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Re: Planets stationary direct same as retro?
« Reply #4 - on: 09.04.2010 at 17:00 [UT+1] »I don't care too much for Cafe Astrology, but where did you get the first quote

I've always read that when aplanet is stationary it is at it's strongest, but it would make sense that when it is stationary direct would be
most favorable as most would agree retrograde is not a good time to make changes.

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