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lizwhiz
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Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another planet« on: 28.10.2019 at 01:15 [UT] »Hi everyone,
I'd like to get your thoughts on a hypothetical situation that was posed by one of my friends who does notbelieve in astrology: How would astrology hold up if a person was born on another planet (i.e. Mars)?
Posts: 9I would assume, for one, that Mars would become the center of the birth chart and Earth would need to havemeaning, like every other planet does currently, but what would that be/what would that mean? All in all, whatwould being natal to Mars affect in a chart/astrology in general?
I'd never thought of this before, so I was caught a bit by surprise, and I couldn't really formulate a response in
the moment (I was also pretty drunk lol).
I'd love to know what you guys think! I think this allows for an interesting discussion.

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PhoenixNoodleSoup

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #1 - on: 28.10.2019 at 02:42 [UT] »Quote from lizwhiz on 28.10.2019 at 01:15 [UT]:
Hi everyone,
I'd like to get your thoughts on a hypothetical situation that was posed by one of my friends who does not believe in astrology: How
would astrology hold up if a person was born on another planet (i.e. Mars)?
I would assume, for one, that Mars would become the center of the birth chart and Earth would need to have meaning, like every otherplanet does currently, but what would that be/what would that mean? All in all, what would being natal to Mars affect in a chart/astrology
in general?
I'd never thought of this before, so I was caught a bit by surprise, and I couldn't really formulate a response in the moment (I was alsopretty drunk lol).

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Gender:I'd love to know what you guys think! I think this allows for an interesting discussion.

I had a Science teacher ask me the same question in 1969https://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1344254878/44#44
https://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1431095985/10#10
follow the links...

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #2 - on: 28.10.2019 at 07:45 [UT] »Quote from lizwhiz on 28.10.2019 at 01:15 [UT]:
Hi everyone,
I'd like to get your thoughts on a hypothetical situation that was posed by one of my friends who does not believe in astrology: Howwould astrology hold up if a person was born on another planet (i.e. Mars)?
I would assume, for one, that Mars would become the center of the birth chart and Earth would need to have meaning, like every otherplanet does currently, but what would that be/what would that mean? All in all, what would being natal to Mars affect in a chart/astrology
in general?
I'd never thought of this before, so I was caught a bit by surprise, and I couldn't really formulate a response in the moment (I was alsopretty drunk lol).
I'd love to know what you guys think! I think this allows for an interesting discussion.

lolI just love those kind of friends!!!

Tell him to go there and have a kid and we'll see what we'll do about it...
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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #3 - on: 29.10.2019 at 19:52 [UT] »Well, some people practice Heliocentric astrology, and that puts the Sun at the centre of the chart.

It's from this perspective that it makes sense that the Earth rules Taurus.

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #4 - on: 29.10.2019 at 20:10 [UT] »This long and difficult to read tract provides the theoretic bare-bones of how it might be done in a way
consistent with historical astrological practice.
http://www.levante.org/svarogich/en/principia_en/content.html
Have fun! I sure have. After nearly 20 years with it, it still forms the basis of most of my use of astrology, alongwith a lot of philosophical positioning and additional mental models.
Different strokes for different folks, as they say.
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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #5 - on: 31.10.2019 at 22:59 [UT] »I’ll check these out! Thanks
Quote from PhoenixNoodleSoup on 28.10.2019 at 02:42 [UT]:
Quote from lizwhiz on 28.10.2019 at 01:15 [UT]:

Posts: 9Hi everyone,
I'd like to get your thoughts on a hypothetical situation that was posed by one of my friends who does not believe inastrology: How would astrology hold up if a person was born on another planet (i.e. Mars)?
I would assume, for one, that Mars would become the center of the birth chart and Earth would need to have meaning, likeevery other planet does currently, but what would that be/what would that mean? All in all, what would being natal to Mars
affect in a chart/astrology in general?
I'd never thought of this before, so I was caught a bit by surprise, and I couldn't really formulate a response in themoment (I was also pretty drunk lol).
I'd love to know what you guys think! I think this allows for an interesting discussion.

I had a Science teacher ask me the same question in 1969https://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1344254878/44#44
https://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1431095985/10#10
follow the links ...

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lizwhiz
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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #6 - on: 31.10.2019 at 23:00 [UT] »Ha! I agree! I’m going to check out the links that have been provided and get back to him on this lol.
Quote from _AstroCode_ on 28.10.2019 at 07:45 [UT]:
Quote from lizwhiz on 28.10.2019 at 01:15 [UT]:

Posts: 9Hi everyone,
I'd like to get your thoughts on a hypothetical situation that was posed by one of my friends who does not believe inastrology: How would astrology hold up if a person was born on another planet (i.e. Mars)?
I would assume, for one, that Mars would become the center of the birth chart and Earth would need to have meaning, likeevery other planet does currently, but what would that be/what would that mean? All in all, what would being natal to Mars
affect in a chart/astrology in general?
I'd never thought of this before, so I was caught a bit by surprise, and I couldn't really formulate a response in themoment (I was also pretty drunk lol).
I'd love to know what you guys think! I think this allows for an interesting discussion.

lol

I just love those kind of friends!!!

Tell him to go there and have a kid and we'll see what we'll do about it...

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #7 - on: 01.11.2019 at 00:20 [UT] »The astrology we use is based on about 5,000 years of people on earth studying the skies ....the planets ....andhow they affect events and people on earth.
If we suddenly were on Mars we could not really use the astrology which we use now. There would have to be
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new research which means we would have to live on Mars and be there for a VERY long time.
HOwever: the "genetics" of a person who was born on Mars (let us say because of an hypothetical "earth
settlement" would be the same as if that person was born on earth. And that which was taught to the childwould be similar to that which was taught to a person born on earth....how to walk, talk, feed itself, -read,write, do math, etc etc etc. But one could NOT read the natal chart as there would not be one. A birth chart iscreated from the date, time and place of a person's birth.
Mars has a different length of year, it has no moon, and if it did it would not have the same functions....
The planets from the position of Mars would be totally different in dynamics.
this subject is WAY OUT...because it supposes a person could actually survive a trip to Mars: a colony beestablished; people willing to stay long enough to "reproduce" if that would even be possible.
Space travel has shown the the human body degrades as time in space goes on.
I hope that this goes a little way toward addressing this fantastic question. (meaning "fantasy"- at least foranother 100 years- and of course it all hinges on whether earth will survive this century.)
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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #8 - on: 02.11.2019 at 13:47 [UT] »"Mars has a different length of year.."Lainie isn't it about 2 of our years? If I'm 64 here on Earth I would be 32 there. But what of the body itself?
Would it still display 64 Earth years of age?

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Linda Harris

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #9 - on: 02.11.2019 at 18:54 [UT] »Honey,There is absolutely NO evidence that a human being could survive that long on Mars in any "createdatmosphere" which we have the ability to manufacture here, now, on earth.
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Back to fantasy: We have no idea what the life expectancy would be on Mars. Could be that 32 was theaverage age of death on that planet. We have NO idea. NONE.
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Ed Falis
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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #10 - on: 02.11.2019 at 18:59 [UT] »"Not knowing" is not fantasy - it's more like "speculation".

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Linda Harris

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #11 - on: 03.11.2019 at 01:48 [UT] »Potay-toe Potah-toe.
Actually, potato.
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I am not sure what the OP was getting at. I am trying to cover the bases.
Humans deteriorate during space travel. The time it would take to get to Mars....the FIRST step...seems pretty
far away. Unless they figure out a faster way to get there. Hey...i'm not a seer. I am basing my answers on
what is already known.
We have no idea what the natal chart of a child born on Mars (or even the Moon) would be. Or what it would
MEAN which is the part that would take a very long time to research. And it would have to be a LOT ofchildren....because you can't study a science like astrology using one subject only.

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Ed Falis
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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #12 - on: 03.11.2019 at 12:04 [UT] »Yeah, it is po-tat-toe, po-tah-toe in a sense. There are a lot of dimensions to knowledge and understanding, eg
the empirical, the relating of the empirical to what is already understood, the speculation and its testing byvarious means. It's great that there can be so many perspectives to approach understanding. And yes, the issueof relevance.

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Etchasketch

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #13 - on: 05.11.2019 at 05:35 [UT] »A more interesting question would be whether the person born on Mars would be considered a legal or illegal
alien. Ba-dum-tiss! Thank you folks I'll be here all week.

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ninetyninepercent Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl
Ex Member« Reply #14 - on: 16.11.2019 at 09:58 [UT] »Thank you, Ed. Very impressive! And great for long winter evenings.
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Quote from Ed Falis on 29.10.2019 at 20:10 [UT]:This long and difficult to read tract provides the theoretic bare-bones of how it might be done in a way consistent with historicalastrological practice. http://www.levante.org/svarogich/en/principia_en/content.html
Have fun! I sure have. After nearly 20 years with it, it still forms the basis of most of my use of astrology, along with a lot of
philosophical positioning and additional mental models.
Different strokes for different folks, as they say.
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Aquamarine14

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Re: Hypothetical: Astrology if natal to another pl« Reply #15 - on: 16.11.2019 at 11:00 [UT] »I can see why the ancients reverred E in the sky with it's red glow.
The consititution of someone( abeing ) born on E would most likely be very different to human form.
The muscular strucutre of the body is reduced by time in space due to no gravity.
it is an interesting thought and hey none of us know what is out there. Arrogant to think we are the only 'lifeform'.
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Ex Member« Reply #16 - on: 16.11.2019 at 11:17 [UT] »Quote from Etchasketch on 05.11.2019 at 05:35 [UT]:
A more interesting question would be whether the person born on Mars would be considered a legal or illegal alien. Ba-dum-tiss! Thankyou folks I'll be here all week.

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