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PhoebeEx Member

Me, Myself & Vesta« on: 20.01.2012 at 16:49 [UT] »Asteroid Vesta was discovered by astronomer Heinrich Olbers in Bremen Germany March 29, 1807. She was in
the final degree of Virgo retrograde at the time. Along with Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Hygeia (10), Vesta is
located in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. It is the brightest asteroid visible from Earth.
With NASA's Dawn spacecraft currently scoping out Vesta and returning the first images back to Earth on
December 13 2011, Vesta is no longer 'like a virgin', with images revealing her concentric grooves, compression
fractures, and 'snowman craters'.
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/vesta_dawn_gallery.asp
Vesta's significance in astrology has intrigued me for some time with natal Vesta in a tight m with A and I
hadn't read any astrological interpretations that have resonated with me. That is until I stumbled across thisarticle which explores the archetype of the Virgin, "I Am Myself: the self-possession of the Virgin", an extractfrom reads:
Quote:...in ancient Rome, when a girl was selected to enter the service of the Goddess Vesta, she escaped the common social practice of her
culture and moved beyond the strict bondage of a male relative. She was expected to remain celibate, (to be more specific, uninitiated in
the ways of physical intimacy with a man) in her 30 years or more in Vesta’s service. Serving the goddess effectively and exemplifying an
unimpeachable character for Rome’s citizens required a great degree of training (education), consequentially enabling a personal mind, her
own view of herself and the world. Whether she decided at the end of her term to remain within the Temple or to go out into the world
and marry a man of her choice, in her late-thirties on, neither the Vestals’ mind nor body would be owned by husband, father, son orbrother. (read full article herehttp://archetypist.com/2011/03/24/the-virgin-archetype/

Currently Vesta is transiting at 13 l and the Sabian Symbol is is a flirty double entendre: "A sword in a
museum".
BTW On 5/6 June 2012, one of the rarest planetary alignments will take place - a Venus transit across the faceof the sun. This is the last chance to observe this as the next transit won't be until December 2117
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/63-658-0-0-1-0.html
Asteroid Vesta will be in b at r aspect to the Venus/Sun transit in c
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Astrologically, Vesta symbolizes individuals who are "centered" in their own identity and thus self-determined in their activities. Stressful
aspects to the planets may portray a person who is off-center, off-base, or not yet able to find a place. - Demetra George & Douglas
Bloch, Asteroid Goddesses.

With Vesta located in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, it may be useful to examine the aspects
that are made with E and F in particular and ponder these questions:Mars: In what areas do you use Vesta's energies? Where does Vesta become active?
Jupiter: In which areas can Vesta expand and support self-development?
Further Resources:
http://intraspec.ca/asteroid-goddesses.php (scroll down for the mandala diagram and more links at thebottom of the page)
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #1 - on: 20.01.2012 at 20:22 [UT] »Vesta is within a few minutes of conjuncting my AC so I have tried to figure out how it operates within mychart. As you noted, the Vestals were confined for 30 or more years which makes me think it also has a Saturnconnection, they are released after their Saturn return. With the maturity and wisdom gained from the return
perhaps they were thought to be a stable partner of man or a wise priestess of Vesta.
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Gender:Vesta is sextile my Jupiter, widely quincunx my Mars and trine my Saturn by 7 degrees. I greatly veered frommy parents idea of what I should be/do but tried to maintain a close relationship with them. My husband and I
were married when I was 36.
Thank you for pointing out the June 5-6 configuration. I have a ton of activity on those dates including the
Venus/Sun conjunction exactly on my natal Venus, and Vesta will be exactly trine my Saturn. My Lilith returnsame day.
I will have my Vesta return on May 20, just in time for the eclipse. It may be difficult to pinpoint the Vesta
effect then but I will definitely meditate on it that day to see if I can find more insights.

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #2 - on: 20.01.2012 at 21:14 [UT] »According to my research Vesta is very energetic, strong & courageous, acting as kind of a focalizer, transformer
and intensifier - of those contents (planets) she is connected to.
In German: http://astroinfo.astrologix.de/spezial/vesta/vesta.htm

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #3 - on: 20.01.2012 at 22:11 [UT] »Thank you Richard for posting that article. It doesn't read too badly using Google translate! I'm interested
because I have Vesta conjunct Desc, square a Venus-Sun-Neptune-Jupiter conjunction. Much of what is saidrings true with me. To me it signifies sublimated sexual energy that is directed/focused elsewhere in aconcentrated manner. A bit Plutonian but without the destructiveness.
It is interesting to me that if an asteroid or other minor point operates strongly in a chart, it usually points toqualities that are evident in a simple chart of the main planets. For instance i have a 5-planet stellium in
Scorpio in the 10th in kind aspect to Pluto (concentration, focus on work, possibility of sublimation)
Interesting the link with the crucible of fire in the mythology - in relation to my chart anyway, where my Vedic
moon (Mesha) is associated with the same mythology.
yours
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #4 - on: 21.01.2012 at 00:18 [UT] »Quote:
author=oxymoron link=1327078155/0#1 date=1327090941]Vesta is within a few minutes of conjuncting my AC so I have tried to figureout how it operates within my chart. As you noted, the Vestals were confined for 30 or more years which makes me think it also has a
Saturn connection, they are released after their Saturn return. With the maturity and wisdom gained from the return perhaps they were
thought to be a stable partner of man or a wise priestess of Vesta.

I recall reading that girls entered the House of Vesta when they were about 7 or 8 years old. If they weren't
punished by being buried alive for enjoying a little whoopee on the job, then they would be women of 38-40
upon leaving. Hmm, I wonder if Vesta is also a caution about not sleeping with the boss, or indicates being hit
on by the boss.
There's also the aspect that Wills and important documents were kept in the House of Vesta and I can certainly
relate to my Vesta m A in the 8th house from that angle.
Unwoman: I doubt that the qualities evident in a simple chart would have drawn out that specific connection,
because it's the Vestal story that pinpointed it. However what works for me, may not work for another. I do
feel that the goddess asteroids help to refine and polish the raw materials of the basic natal chart.
Possibly these transits would be more relevant and I like the 'crossing the threshold' and, of course, G is often
called the 'Dweller on the Threshold".
Across the Threshold - Uranus and Neptune (and Pluto)
38-44: The Big Leap Forward
38: Second Return of the Lunar Nodes
40: Saturn Trine Saturn - Familiar Boundaries
42: Neptune Square Neptune - Beautiful Dreamer(swiped from http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_midlife_e.htm )There is another aspect to Vesta that involves the average Roman matron and the festival of Vestalia, which iscelebrated from
June 7-15th, which starts the day after the Venus transit. I'm curious to explore just how often the Venus
transit across the face of the sun coincides with the Vestalia.
June 7 – Vestalia begins holiday for fishermen
June 8 – Vestalia: festival of good sense
June 9 – Vestalia: defeat of Crassus by the Parthians commemorated
June 10 – Vestalia
June 11 – Vestalia; Matralia to Mater Matuta, Festival of Fortuna, dedication of temple of Concord
commemorated
June 12 – Vestalia
June 13 – Vestalia: Quinquatrus to Minerva
June 14 – Vestalia
June 15 – Last day of Vestalia: Quando Stercus Delatum (all the trash from the previous festivals is thrown into
the Tiber)
I really like the idea of the Festival of Good Sense on June 8th, which seems to go out the window on the 15th.
Not an ecofriendly gesture at all (unless it is eurotrash they throw into the Tiber)
On the home front this is how you do Vestalia:
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Vestalia
In ancient times it meant that the inner sanctum of the House of Vesta would be opened to the matrons of Rome. They were led by theFlamenica Dialis who was the wife of the high priest of Jupiter. Normally throughout the year she would be adorned in the manner of abride, veiled and with a special hairstyle for marriage. But during this festival she would wear her hair down as though in mourning. She
was not allowed to cut her hair or trim her nails at this time, nor would she have intercourse with her husband. I would assume the same
was true of all the matrons who attended, because this festival was conducted as an annual cleaning of this edifice. Meanwhile, for other
women, no marriages could take place. For us today Vestalia is a good place the begin examining the role of women in the religio
Romana. (read full article here http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religioromana/2011/06/vestalia/ )Comes Vesta,
To live in this beautiful home!
Come with warm feelings of friendship.
Bring Your intelligence,Your energy and Your passion
To join us with Your goodwill.
Burn brightly at my hearth.
Burn always in my soul.
You are welcome here.
I remember You!
( Hymn to Vesta - unsure of source)
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #5 - on: 21.01.2012 at 01:13 [UT] »Vesta literally only makes a couple aspects in my chart :sextile NN
sextile MC
It's right in the beginning of my eighth house, which actually makes sense considering a lot of my personal
beliefs about the sexual act.
The Sabian for it :PHASE 181 (LIBRA 1°): IN A COLLECTION OF PERFECT SPECIMENS OF MANY BIOLOGICAL FORMS, A
BUTTERFLY DISPLAYS THE BEAUTY OF ITS WINGS, ITS BODY IMPALED BY A FINE DART.
KEYNOTE: The immortal archetypal reality that a perfect and dedicated life reveals.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #6 - on: 21.01.2012 at 18:45 [UT] »I consider myself fortunate to have Ceres m B 17 l p Vesta 17d- H12...
Thanx for the above info

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #7 - on: 25.01.2012 at 23:58 [UT] »more on Vesta
http://blog.virgovault.com/2011/05/18/dawn-mission-domicile-vesta-virgo-exalted- scorpio/
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #8 - on: 26.01.2012 at 00:09 [UT] »Quote from Phoebe on 20.01.2012 at 16:49 [UT]:
Asteroid Vesta was discovered by astronomer Heinrich Olbers in Bremen Germany March 29, 1807. She was in the final degree of Virgoretrograde at the time. Along with Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Hygeia (10), Vesta is located in the main asteroid belt between Mars andJupiter. It is the brightest asteroid visible from Earth.

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Gender:Vesta's significance in astrology has intrigued me for some time with natal Vesta in a tightm with A and I hadn't read any astrologicalinterpretations that have resonated with me. That is until I stumbled across this article which explores the archetype of the Virgin, "I Am
Myself: the self-possession of the Virgin", an extract from reads:
Quote:...in ancient Rome, when a girl was selected to enter the service of the Goddess Vesta, she escaped the common social
practice of her culture and moved beyond the strict bondage of a male relative. She was expected to remain celibate, (tobe more specific, uninitiated in the ways of physical intimacy with a man) in her 30 years or more in Vesta’s service.
Serving the goddess effectively and exemplifying an unimpeachable character for Rome’s citizens required a great degreeof training (education), consequentially enabling a personal mind, her own view of herself and the world. Whether she
decided at the end of her term to remain within the Temple or to go out into the world and marry a man of her choice, in
her late-thirties on, neither the Vestals’ mind nor body would be owned by husband, father, son or brother. (read full article
herehttp://archetypist.com/2011/03/24/the-virgin-archetype/

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Astrologically, Vesta symbolizes individuals who are "centered" in their own identity and thus self-determined in theiractivities. Stressful aspects to the planets may portray a person who is off-center, off-base, or not yet able to find a place.
- Demetra George & Douglas Bloch, Asteroid Goddesses.

Further Resources:
http://intraspec.ca/asteroid-goddesses.php (scroll down for the mandala diagram and more links at the bottom of the page)

I too have Vesta m my A and C in k and the quote you added makes sense. I have always been very much
my own woman. glad you did this thread and brought Vesta to my attention
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #9 - on: 26.01.2012 at 18:31 [UT] »I have it in hmI as part of a grand trine with Fd on MC and N inl. When I was younger, I read about the
Vestal Virgins and was very intrigued. I had a Virgin pact with a good friend in High School but it wasn't a
Christian thing. I grew up in a very sexist town and witnessed the bad treatment of girls by the local boys. My
friend and I really got into this virgin thing as a form of maintaining our power. We dabbled in witchcraft andritual. It was a punk rock virgin 80's witch thing and in retrospect, I think saved me from some nastiness. We
both had very kind and understanding boyfriends! I also have BJmf which probably added to this wholething.

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #10 - on: 26.01.2012 at 19:16 [UT] »I have Vesta in Taurus in the 7th, conjunct Dsc - which always struck me as a bit of a contradiction in terms.
Reading the Asteroid Goddesses I guess the interpretation would be someone who is quite grounded inrelationships and who is prepared to put a lot (too much?) effort into making earthly relationships work... rings
pretty true.
No aspects to any major planets but sextile Ceres conjunct Chiron in 4th and trine Lilith conjunct Fortuna in2nd...
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #11 - on: 26.01.2012 at 22:06 [UT] »Quote from Sophie Ant on 26.01.2012 at 18:31 [UT]:

hmI

Fd

N l

I have it inas part of a grand trine withon MC andin . When I was younger, I read about the Vestal Virgins and was very
intrigued. I had a Virgin pact with a good friend in High School but it wasn't a Christian thing. I grew up in a very sexist town andwitnessed the bad treatment of girls by the local boys. My friend and I really got into this virgin thing as a form of maintaining our power.
We dabbled in witchcraft and ritual. It was a punk rock virgin 80's witch thing and in retrospect, I think saved me from some nastiness.

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We both had very kind and understanding boyfriends! I also have

BJmf which probably added to this wholething.

Quite possibly. I have Bm J f in 12th. As a teenager I decided that my first has to be really important
relationship. Not necessarily marriage, but certainly something worthwhile and, well, transformative.
hindsight - a good decision.

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #12 - on: 28.01.2012 at 07:37 [UT] »My Vesta is in the 6th house e. I've always felt a tie to the vestal virgins. When all my friends where racing to
get down the aisle, I was staunchyly single. I felt much the feminist and releasing the Vestals at 38 years old isalso echoed in my meeting my boyfriend around 36- 37. I had been celibate 7 years before meeting him.

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #13 - on: 28.01.2012 at 14:11 [UT] »I have Vesta natally at 20* k in 11th n exactly natal J, also trine GI in 7th and g, when transiting I
conjuncted Vesta and transiting G in opposition...I did lose my hearth and home and then lost the sense ofany so called 'male' support or security in that, so have a respect for this goddess..
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #14 - on: 28.01.2012 at 18:12 [UT] »The Occult Teachings of Vesta
by Demetra George:
Vesta governs the sexual fires known as the kundalini force that reside in the etheric body at the base of thespine. When this force is awakened and consciously channeled to higher centers, one gains an increased psychic
awareness, ecstatic bliss, and eventual illumination known as adeptship.

g Vesta partile H10 I p H3 E and Pallas q H8 FJ.
Yah!!!
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #15 - on: 28.01.2012 at 18:55 [UT] »27 k mkB25 its a part of who I am but I'm not aware of its exact meaning for me....part of all my trines as
well

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #16 - on: 28.01.2012 at 19:06 [UT] »Matilda,A devotion to one's family or a strong desire to care for others, and an ideal of freedom for oneself and others.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #17 - on: 28.01.2012 at 19:14 [UT] »thanks Michelle, makes sense.........

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Ex Member« Reply #18 - on: 16.02.2012 at 05:49 [UT] »For me, Vesta has always represented what we hold sacred in our lives; even in the charts of agnostics andatheist I have seen this to be true. Tell me Phoebe , how is it in the Mythos, both Prometheus and Epimetheus
were punished by Jupiter for returning fire to mankind (after some sacrilegious sacrifice fiasco as I recall) and
Vesta (the eldest Olympian)protecter of the hearth was held harmless and continued as an Olympian Goddess
though she spent much of her time on Earth as keeper of the Flame and benefactor of humankind? Just
Wondering?
day!)

Vesta 13d21 9H

Kevin(would have fallen in Love with a Vestal for sure back in the

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #19 - on: 16.02.2012 at 09:55 [UT] »Quote from PhoenixNoodleSoup on 16.02.2012 at 05:49 [UT]:For me, Vesta has always represented what we hold sacred in our lives; even in the charts of agnostics and atheist I have seen this to betrue. Tell me Phoebe , how is it in the Mythos, both Prometheus and Epimetheus were punished by Jupiter for returning fire to mankind(after some sacrilegious sacrifice fiasco as I recall) and Vesta (the eldest Olympian)protecter of the hearth was held harmless andcontinued as an Olympian Goddess though she spent much of her time on Earth as keeper of the Flame and benefactor of humankind? Just
Wondering? Vesta 13 21 9H Kevin (would have fallen in Love with a Vestal for sure back in the day!)d

Welcome Seeker!
Allow me to consult the Oracle of Google and divine your answer!
According to Ovid, Vesta is indeed the Earth itself, the sacred sphere (orbs) that makes life possible as weknow it: "Vesta is the Earth itself, both have the perennial fire, the Earth and the sacred Fire show their see.
Vesta is a Roman goddess, not Olympian. You are thinking of Hestia.
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Ex Member« Reply #20 - on: 16.02.2012 at 18:16 [UT] »I wish I knew why all the oracles have abandon(ed) me - the horary oracle since like forever, the I Ching for the
better part of four years now and now this Google Oracle ? I am afraid of the Tarot (is that an Oracle?).
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #21 - on: 17.02.2012 at 02:20 [UT] »I have vesta in d in the 11th house m D by 1 degree
What would this mean?

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #22 - on: 17.02.2012 at 14:24 [UT] »Quote from truegemini62073 on 17.02.2012 at 02:20 [UT]:
I have vesta in

d in the 11th house m D by 1 degree

What would this mean?

Break it down. You know what the qualities of cancer are, what the 11th house represents, what Venus
represents and Vesta is the hearth-fire, the sacred flame. It is more important that you discover the meaningof this aspect for yourself than to accept are-heated definition from a 'cook book'. Bring your own intelligence to the table, truegemini, that is themessage of Vesta.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #23 - on: 18.02.2012 at 00:35 [UT] »I have a tie with a man that is stretched- but never broken
His D 17 d is m my Vesta 17d..my H12
His early combust cA trapped in his own 12th house is another matter

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #24 - on: 18.02.2012 at 03:40 [UT] »I have Vesta in Virgo in 6th house and it makes no aspects at all except an exact trine to my MC. I have no idea
what that means, but I'm intrigued now!

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #25 - on: 19.02.2012 at 18:58 [UT] »Quote from truegemini62073 on 17.02.2012 at 02:20 [UT]:
I have vesta in

d in the 11th house m D by 1 degree

What would this mean?

It means an intensive focussing (Vesta) on relationships (D) with friends (11).
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #26 - on: 20.02.2012 at 03:20 [UT] »Are we factoring in Vesta is 'The Goddess of the Hearth' ?
In many of the asteroids 'meanings'- I glimpse such a throwback to out primal 'roles' & urges

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #27 - on: 20.02.2012 at 05:24 [UT] »Quote from Krista Shipp on 20.02.2012 at 03:20 [UT]:
Are we factoring in Vesta is 'The Goddess of the Hearth' ?
In many of the asteroids 'meanings'- I glimpse such a throwback to out primal 'roles' & urges Krista

It is from my perspective as a practitioner in psychospiritual healing and a medical intuitive, that Vesta is very
important in the maintenance of one's health (hearth) and wellbeing. The clues are within the Hymn to Vesta
that I posted at the beginning of this thread:
Comes Vesta
To live in this beautiful home!
Come with warm feelings of friendship
Bring your intelligence.

The intelligence of the bodymind connection. The ability to befriend our physical bodies as the only home oursoul has on Earth.
Ovid writes that Vesta is the Earth. We are carbon-based life units; we are created from the same elementsthat everything is.
Astrologist Maritha Pottinger wrote back in 1987 that Vesta is a super-Virgo. Considering the negative aspectsof Virgo, I doubt frew people are well served by the super-power of perfectionism - or more accurately, theattachment to perfect. The perfect life, body, friends, partner, job, house, yada yada yada.
When this superpower is turned on the physical body - the only home our Soul has on Earth - can it be said
that Vesta has been befriended, that her sacred flame is being allowed to burn brightly, or is always being
snuffed out?
I have found it useful to study the Vesta Persona Chart - to learn what the qualities are of her profile - and thenintegrate the 'Vesta profile' back to the Natal chart.
The last two lines of the Hymn to Vesta
You are welcome here
I remember you

Vesta is a transpersonal energy, a point of focus that gives the native potential for creating a healing narrative.
One that tends the hearth-fire without burning down the house in the process - becoming fatigued, burned-out,
exhausted. Becoming fagged out, which is an English expression for being rather tired and feeling that one has
exhausted all options. A perhaps forgotten definition of the noun faggot is: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or small
branches, etc., bound together, used for fuel.
Perhaps Vesta in the 11H could suggest that one is blessed with the friendship of people of diverse sexual
expression. The cult of Vesta does not seem to contain the self-mutilating aspects demanded by the Cult ofCybele, although if you were a Vestal still in service and were caught shagging the shephed, the punishment
was rather grim and death slow with being buried alive. One would hope the herbalist slipped you something hemlock mayhaps - to speed the journey.
Vesta is a focus of pragmatic compassion, of having compassion for one's own self - this human animal bodythat the soul inhabits with all it's quirks and propensity to break wind in elevators, to growl with hunger during
meetings and to not care overmuch for that bowl of chili.
The late John O'Donohue wrote eloquently in his book "Eternal Echoes" about befriending the body, ofcompanioning that part of us that is in pain and scared, and not working as optimally as it once did. We seek
the opinions of health care providers who know much about disease yet will never know as much as you do
about the body you have walked around in, lived with for all the years that you have.
Vesta has a strong connection to Mars with the natural quincunx of the natal chart, formed by the first andsixth houses.
Mars is the classical ruler of the first house and Vesta is a classical goddess that is a shareholder in the sixth
house, that depending on your preferences for rulership, either has C or B collecting the rent.
Vesta is what one devotes oneself to, if there is too much self-devotion the label of 'narcissist' is applied.
Too little devotion and label of 'patient' becomes your reality. If one continues on the path of being devoted to
not being devoted to self then sooner rather than later you may find yourself lying in a cold room with a tag on
your toe.
Much has been written about Vesta from perspectives different to mine. I simply add my voice to thecacophony of others. It is incumbent on you who are intrigued by Vesta in your charts, to bring yourintelligence, your passion and your goodwill to the task of learning how well or ill you are harnessing thepotentials of Vesta.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #28 - on: 22.02.2012 at 00:19 [UT] »I am curious to learn more as I and have Vesta mK 11H and rAm AC.

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #29 - on: 22.02.2012 at 01:00 [UT] »Hi Phoebe,Interesting that you mention Maritha Pottenger. I had my chart analyzed by ACS in San Diego, for which she
wrote the text, and I remember it saying that Vesta was associated with "tunnel vision" psychologically. I
suppose this does mirror the analytical characteristics of Virgo.
Difficult for me to separate it out from the larger, rounder bodies in my chart; it is conjunct Pluto in Leo andPosts: 2454

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #30 - on: 22.02.2012 at 02:53 [UT] »Quote from Teapot on 22.02.2012 at 01:00 [UT]:
Hi Phoebe,Interesting that you mention Maritha Pottenger. I had my chart analyzed by ACS in San Diego, for which she wrote the text, and I
remember it saying that Vesta was associated with "tunnel vision" psychologically. I suppose this does mirror the analytical characteristics
of Virgo.
Difficult for me to separate it out from the larger, rounder bodies in my chart; it is conjunct Pluto in Leo and also within a large orb ofconjuncting my Virgo planets.

I've been reading Maritha Pottenger's (and her mother's) articles - (her series on Life is a Quincunx is way
interesting btw). I can certainly grok the 'tunnel vision' aspect. Vesta is quintessentially a fire-gazer and if you
note how your own vision alters if you stare too long into a fire - it is not difficult to relate that physical affectto how Vesta may be working in the natal chart.
Astrologist and psychotherapist Ken Oath, correlated Vesta to narcissism and being able identify that anotherperson's needs are not a demand on your resources is 'healthy narcissism'.
Quote:The mythology surrounding the Asteroid Vestain my mind, encaptulates the focus on self and is the archetype of the narcissistic process.
When Vesta is predominant in the astrology chart the personality seems to indicate enough ‘invested’ self interest to gain popularity insome form or other. The saying; “the body is the temple of the soul” is also an interesting quote that relates narcisism to the good or not
so good aspects of a healthy spirit. http://astrologybykingsley.com/2008/02/19/death-of-a-narcissist-insights-to-vest a/

Perhaps Ken Oath is a little tunnel-visioned with his understanding of Vesta and certainly astrologists have their'pet theories' and when in its thrall, see evidence of their theory in every chart they look at. The tendency for
astrologists to see certain aspects as indicating conflict with the mother, for example, when the native had adevoted and loving mother - yet the astrologist cannot be swayed from the receipe in their 'cook-book'. Howvery Vesta is that?
Within public forums, the etiquette is to refrain from flaming - is this the language of Vesta?
Manifestations of a flickering Vesta could well be chronic fatigue, adrenal exhaustion, living a hectic life thatcompromises one's Qi or chi. The 'tunnel vision' of the workaholic - a person who cannot see the wood for thetrees. Wood fuels fire. In the generative/nourishing cycle of the FiveElements it is wood -> fire -> earth ->metal -> water -> wood.
What is 'tunnel vision' but a focus on one thing over another, perhaps an adherance to aphilosophy/belief/attitude that is narrow and needs to be broadened (a heftyF transit will sort that out) andbecoming calcified within that. Could Vesta issues point to arthritis and any physical disturbances that have a'burning' quality? Interestingly, with muscular-skeletal pain, salves that 'burn' such as Dencorub and Deep Heat
are applied for relief yet they merely mask one sensation with another.
It can be difficult to tease out Vesta from other placements in one's chart - I consider the major asteroids asadding colour as providing another narrative that expands on what the classical planets already offer. My senseis that the asteroids help the native to work the transpersonal/generational planets a little better - grease thetracks so to speak.
With your Vesta conjunct Pluto, I have the image of a dog lying in front of the hearth-fire - let sleeping dogs
lie. I am sure you are aware of your Virgo qualities and with the propensity with analytical thought, the needto know vs relaxing into not-knowing. Perhaps toasting some marshmallows instead.
Matrika
My perception is that your Vesta m K in 11H speaks to your devotion to the role of advocate you havementioned you have fulfilled in your career - the way in which you serve in this world. At this time, yourmother is your focus. 11H Vesta placements are particularly lovely yet carry the caution of being mindful ofissues such as compassion fatigue, caregiver stress and vicarious trauma and having developed strategies tomitigate the effects of working at the coal-face. Vesta is a focus of self-care. An imbalanced expression iscaring for self at the expense of others or neglecting to care for self; the ambivalent caretaker.
Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long
into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you ~ Friedrich Nietzsche
Ambivalence: the co-existence in one person of opposite and conflicting feelings towards the same person or
object; uncertainty or ambiguity esp. due to inability to make up one's mind.
Water for Elephants
http://peterfox.com.au/compassion.htm
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #31 - on: 11.03.2012 at 07:33 [UT] »Mercury Retrograde, Vesta, and the Throat Chakra
The goddess Vesta was the keeper of the hearth, the sacred flame, associated with Virgo (and Scorpio) so there
is a Mercury connection here because Virgo is ruled by Mercury.
Vesta in your chart shows your focus (among other things) just like your Mercury aspects show this as well.
(read full article here http://moonplutoastrology.com/2012/03/10/mercury-retrograde-vesta-andthe-throat -chakra/ )Back to top

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #32 - on: 10.05.2012 at 04:35 [UT+1] »An insightful take on Vesta by Dawn Bodrogi of 'The Inner Wheel' who brings at least 25 years of experience as
an astrologer to the table:
An extract:
Vesta’s innate ‘knowing’ can be a great gift. As the poet Rumi said, “Let yourself be silently drawn to thegreater pull of what you really love.” Transits and progressions of Vesta, in particular, can mark the times when
we have ‘a ha’ moments about where we need to be and what we need to do with our lives.
http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/05/12/driven-towards-the-sacred-vesta-part-one/
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #33 - on: 12.05.2012 at 05:26 [UT+1] »Vesta conjunct MC, D within 4 degrees from 9th house, square Mean Lilith 7th, opposite Chiron at IC. Jupiter,(like Venus, a looser 3 degree orb) is square from 1st house within 3 degrees. Technically, one should only
consider 0-2 degree orbs with the 'stroids, but I give Vesta some wiggle room in my chart via its rather
significant position at the MC.
Vesta is most involved with my lifely roles as a principled instructor ... not a principal, but an intellectual
disciplinarian in many ways. Even my ex-husband compliments the Vesta in me that has towed our kids
academic line with them for their whole lives; not to mention how I've pretty much financially supported themon my own for over 10 years. There are methods, rules, boundaries, structures that are inherent to success.
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Gender:to navigate. Honoring them and supporting them keeps chaos out of the lifely quotient. Trust me ... I love therandom life ! My ex-husband failed to pay attention to some of my Vestian rules of order regarding his
methods in our household. Whoopsy!
Last year I was proctoring end of year national exams in my kids' school. They're all brilliant, so were donewith their tests way before the end of the testing periods. My Vesta had to ensure their silence, but the rules
didn't say anything about smiles and subdued laughter. I read poetry, and let the scientific ones turn theirscrap paper into origami sculptures. We had an amazing silent paper airplane show. This was hysterical,
because they had to submit the scrap paper with their exams. Good thing I was volunteering for this gig, or I
might a got fired ?
Don't mess with my Mistress of Appropriateness ... propriety ? Not in a mundane cultural sense. I could careless which end of the handkerchief you sneeze on, or if you use your hand, but you'd best well excuse yourself
to the restroom in a nasal emergency. Don't bleed out on my dining table. Universal principles of action withintegrity ... certainly. It's a Mars to Venus to MC to Vesta in Leo performance train. I do take the simple ritualsof civility quite seriously, though I'm a free-thinking radical on an intellectual and personal level. (Oh, yeah ...
Uranus is holding the electronic torch in this ritualistic mix, in earlier Leo).
I have a theory that you can get away with a lot of hell-raisin' if you've got good manners and wear the rightoutfit to the business meeting ... Well, it's worked for me.

I am a bitch when my principles are crossed. Herein the square to Mean Lilith/7th. THE ROOF OF THE HOUSEIS COMING DOWN !!! I WARNED YOU. YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME. BETTER RUN NOW!!! This Vesta does notstand still inside of burning buildings. She stands at the perimeter, watching the carnage, shaking her head at
the stupidity of it all. She's already found another temple to reside in.
Oooh, that felt good ... shakin' off the flames. I've lived or worked in 4 "temples" that burned to the ground
while I was no longer in them. Weird stuff.
Thanks, Phoebe, for another dance around my own asteroidal May Pole!
How do you think it acts/embellishes your 8th house Sun ? I definitely sense Vesta embellishes my 9th house
Venus.
Moira

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #34 - on: 12.05.2012 at 06:07 [UT+1] »Vesta is one of four asteroids that I have attempted to learn a little about. Mine is in the middle of the 9thhouse at 26i conjunct the Galactic Center. I do find it meaningful. The closest aspect is an opposition to 3rdhouse Uranus at 28c.
This is a nice quote from The Inner Wheel website:"The wisdom of Vesta has to do with keeping the world out, to a certain extent, until we’re wise enough to use
our powers within it. We must keep close to the core fire until we become one with it. We may be late bloomers
where Vesta is concerned, waiting and praying and learning, until the fire is lit within. Once it is, we are readyto light the world."
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #35 - on: 12.05.2012 at 06:32 [UT+1] »Vesta is conjunct my Saturn in Libra 8th House. Authors say this conjunction strengthens both the planet andthe Asteroid. I can be very, very serious about life and it's meanings. I have a very "we only come this way
once" attitude. Yet I have considered the possibility of reincarnation which might be a spiritual fire within all of
us passed from generation to generation.
I have a friend who reads ancient Greek biblical texts and he says the Latins (Romans) wrote reincarnation outof the Bible. Jesus referred to reincarnation in the Greek texts.
I tend to believe Vesta is about emotional/spiritual or physical purification. I am extremely cautious of STD's.
Almost to the point of phobic. This is probably typical of Vesta in 8th House, and Virgo sun. I have nursed
people with Syphilis and seen the physical ravages, and social damage it caused them. It made me hyper awareof the sexual issues involved in STD's. It only takes once to see an innocent person blinded by Syphilis to makeone take this with the utmost seriousness.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #36 - on: 12.05.2012 at 06:47 [UT+1] »Interesting Catalina.
I've got asteroid Magdalene at my i Galactic Center. Certain resemblances of service and love in play there. It
trines into my Leonines in 9th.
I think Vesta's opp to your Uranus is significant (and in orb for observation!). There's an intuitive andintellectual mandate with Uranus in the third. Do or Die conclusions. You definitely should not suffer any
slings and arrows to the operating principles of your mind, or how they are devoted/utilized. Rather, Uranus
provides new contexts for your Vestia objectives.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #37 - on: 12.05.2012 at 07:09 [UT+1] »Quote:
I think Vesta's opp to your Uranus is significant (and in orb for observation!). There's an intuitive and intellectual mandate with Uranus in
the third. Do or Die conclusions. You definitely should not suffer any slings and arrows to the operating principles of your mind, or how
they are devoted/utilized. Rather, Uranus provides new contexts for your Vestia objectives

I love the way you always make me think! I was hoping you would help me put some meaning to that
opposition! Uranus is really getting my attention lately.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #38 - on: 12.05.2012 at 12:57 [UT+1] »Quote from Moirae on 12.05.2012 at 05:26 [UT+1]:

Thanks, Phoebe, for another dance around my own asteroidal May Pole!
How do you think it acts/embellishes your 8th house Sun ? I definitely sense Vesta embellishes my 9th house Venus.
Moira

Well, my 8th house Sun has a coterie of energies milling around it really - bit of a hamburger with the lot! Allthese are within a 10 degree orb.
AAAuuuuuuugggghhhhhhhhh!!! Gremlins ate everything I had just typed and only left the above!!
At this stage, I will just say: Vesta is where I am dedicated to using very bad language.
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #39 - on: 12.05.2012 at 18:46 [UT+1] »Mis-communication disconnects seem rampant over the past day, based on the blips I've received throughcosmic interferences!
I have, however, figured out how to non-verbally train our new kitten ... spray water bottle. "Don't even think
about getting near that keyboard!"
Aquarian Moon always trips me out. Brings out the axis in me ?

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #40 - on: 12.05.2012 at 20:56 [UT+1] »Vesta at 0 Libra, like there's a big sign on mainstreet saying "Welcome to Libraville. No Spitting

on the Sidewalk. Curfew Will Be Enforced"
Maybe Vesta is the energy in me that feels it has to clean up after my iB horses all the time whenever they
get too rambunctious? But there's a LOT of weather here, the hoof prints don't always last long on the ground.

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #41 - on: 12.05.2012 at 21:23 [UT+1] »Quote from starcrave on 12.05.2012 at 20:56 [UT+1]:
Vesta at 0 Libra, like there's a big sign on mainstreet saying [color=#00cccc]"Welcome To Libraville. No Spitting on the Sidewalk. Curfew
Will be Enforced" [/color]
Maybe Vesta is the energy in me that feels it has to clean up after myiB horses all the time whenever they get too rambunctious? But

there's a LOT of weather here, the hoof prints don't always last long on the ground.

Well 0 degrees Libra is one of the critical degrees opposite the critical degree of 0 degrees Aries, so your Vesta
will be getting flamed by the Mars energy. 0-1 Degrees of Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn are extremely
critical degrees, in predictive astrology; always a jump start, so to speak.
I am reminded of that song 'Wildfire'
She comes down from Yellow Mountain
On a dark, flat land she rides
On a pony she named, Wildfire
With a whirlwind by her side
On a cold Nebraska nightWildfire lyrics
Songwriters: Murphey Michael, Martin; Cansler, Larry

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #42 - on: 12.05.2012 at 22:39 [UT+1] »Starcrave, that's a super pooper scooper !
My Vesta clears a pathway for you through the streets of town. I've got torches if the business continues pastdark.

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #43 - on: 13.05.2012 at 16:27 [UT+1] »AF going through my 9th house now and lots of horse vibes coming up lately. Vesta will be going through my
9th later this month with her scooperdooper and I'll have to clean up.

(Notice she already repainted the sign to Libraville, from a failed lilac that came out too pink, to a more gender
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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #44 - on: 14.05.2012 at 13:42 [UT+1] »Quote from Moirae on 12.05.2012 at 18:46 [UT+1]:
Mis-communication disconnects seem rampant over the past day, based on the blips I've received through cosmic interferences!
I have, however, figured out how to non-verbally train our new kitten ... spray water bottle. Â "Don't even think about getting near thatkeyboard!"
Aquarian Moon always trips me out. Â Brings out the axis in me ? ÂPosts: 4286

non-verbal training... I tip a lighted cracker out the window at night to end the bird-hunts andcatterwalling! Instant peace and quiet. (Venus, Jupiter in Aquarius)
p.s. Don't get me wrong - I once had 5 cats, its just that now my focus is on birds!

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Member« Reply #45 - on: 14.05.2012 at 14:04 [UT+1] »Quote from Phoebe on 10.05.2012 at 04:35 [UT+1]:
An insightful take on Vesta by Dawn Bodrogi of 'The Inner Wheel' who brings at least 25 years of experience as an astrologer to the table:
An extract:
VestaÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂs innate ÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂknowingÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂ can be a great gift. As the poet Rumi said, ÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂLet yourself besilently drawn to the greater pull of what you really love.ÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂ Transits and progressions of Vesta, in particular, can mark thetimes when we have ÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂa haÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂ moments about where we need to be and what we need to do with our lives.

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http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/05/12/driven-towards-the-sacred-vesta-part-one/
http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/05/20/driven-towards-the-sacred-vesta-part-two/Phoebe, thanks for an eye-opening thread! And, are you going to donate your brain to science one day?! ÂÂ you're a walking library!
I haven't read "the Inner Wheel" yet, but this would be my confirmation to what you quoted here, and also
have said about Vesta in the thread:
I have a nicely exact placed at mid Moon and Sun, a 5th H Pisces Vesta, conj Mercury 16deg at apex to my
Yod's Pluto and Neptune which are also my sun-sign and Asc rulers, and Yod apex opp Saturn - Â so no smAllpresence.
My Mars Rxd into Virgo at puberty 12yrs, so from trine Venus it went to inconj. Jupiter in Aquarius 4th H. Â
Result - I found teenage boys crude, rude, and lewd, and worth no exchange value for books and study! (mySaturn opp Mercury/Vesta).....
Â This held true until I dated for 4yrs to marry one 24yrs older than me (that Saturn opp Vesta
lifelong, magic, 33yr marriage! (so, a case of: in service with "Vestals" at 12, out at 55... Â))... to a

Now I literally get to dance the night with all the young guys! (11th H P.Mars - now Direct - Â opp Sun; Â and Â
P.Jupiter conj Moon in 5th Â and P. Vesta conj. P. Venus in Aries opp. 5thH ruler in Libra! ) Life is sweet,
and Â ... p.s. btw - for me it also gives another example of how astrology "works"!
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Phoebe Â« #31 - on: Mar 11th, 2012, 7:33am [UT+0] Â»ÂThe goddess Vesta was the keeper of the hearth, the sacred flame, associated with Virgo (and Scorpio) so there is a Mercury connection
here because Virgo is ruled by Mercury.
Â
Vesta in your chart shows your focus (among other things) just like your Mercury aspects show this as well.
Â(read full article here http://moonplutoastrology.com/2012/03/10/mercury-retrograde-vesta-and-the-throat -chakra/ )With a Yod apex Mercury conjunct Vesta, you maybe can't get more focused in 5th House issues than that!?
And T.Mercury is coming up to conjunct them both in Aries 6th, Virgo's natural house... So a teensy question:
any forcasts, while also keeping my Saturn-in-Virgo in the picture, and its also opp. T.Saturn in Libra12th ?

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Re: Me, Myself & Vesta« Reply #46 - on: 13.01.2013 at 08:42 [UT] »Hot from the frying pan..........
Quote:For the first time, the hairstyle of the Roman Vestal Virgins has been recreated on a modern head.
The Vestals were priestesses who guarded the fire of Vesta, the goddess of the hearth, among other sacred tasks. Chosen before puberty
and sworn to celibacy, they were free from many of the social rules that limited women in the Roman era. Their braided hairstyle, the sinicrenes, symbolized chastity and was known in ancient texts as the oldest hairstyle in Rome.

read full article with how-to-video http://www.livescience.com/26112-oldest-roman-hairstylerecreated.html

I noticed the hairstyle of the character Katniss Everdeen in the movie 'The Hunger Games' was similar to this.

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