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DiscoverMemberUpcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« on: 12.11.2007 at 07:49 [UT] »Any thoughts?

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #1 - on: 12.11.2007 at 15:14 [UT] »I'm definitely curious to see how it unfolds--in fact, I have my hopes pinned on it! I'm a Sag with natal Jupiterin the early degrees of Sagittarius and I gotta tell you--so far, I'm definitely not loving it. I guess it depends on
how much work you've done on Pluto touring Sag--the rewards will be proportionate to what you've put in.
Power intrigues will definitely arise but again--hopefully Jupiter will ensure that we see it as a game to be played
and not a matter of life and death as we tend to view Saturnian issues.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #2 - on: 12.11.2007 at 16:40 [UT] »They have just announced that the Pope will journey to the United States from Rome on April 17th when
Jupiter is still in Capricorn with Pluto, and will speak at Yankee Stadium in New York on April 20th.
April 20th has a powerful Grand Trine,

Sun 1 Taurus, Saturn 1 Virgo, Pluto 1 Capricorn.

Saturn is still

Retrograde.
When Jupiter comes to an exact conjunction of Pluto at 28:23 Sagittarius on December 11th ,Posts: 3639
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and Mercury is 15 in Sagittarius, sextile Neptune at 19 Aquarius. There are other very pleasant and helpful
aspects this day. Saturn at 8 Virgo is sextile Venus at 8 Scorpio, sextile Mars at 8 Cancer, and that morning
Moon is 8 Capricorn in this trine-sextile combination.
Of course, Jupiter is conjunct Pluto for several days at 28 degrees, from December 9th through December
13th. The Moon is on this conjunction the morning of the 10th, which is the actual timer to activate thehighest result.
And so Jupiter conjunct Pluto occurs on a very beneficial day, so many open avenues of opportunity.
Jupiter always has to do with opening the mind and facing the truth.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #3 - on: 12.11.2007 at 19:22 [UT] »anyone over extended in any way - especially those using the higher mind as a defensive structure against
darker emotional content, i suspect might find it difficult.
this also has to be viewed in the context of both Jupiter and Pluto moving into Capricorn shortly - whichbasically says something not too dissimiliar - time to contract - come back down to earth and deal with some
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Gender:realities - unpleasant though they might be......

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #4 - on: 13.11.2007 at 14:28 [UT] »Don, don't we have a kind of paradox coming, where the huge expanding power of Jupiter and the intensetransforming energy of Pluto are both confined in a tightly wound and prohibitive Capricorn? Saturn always
shrinks and makes more bare when there is a waste of too much somewhere.

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Member« Reply #5 - on: 13.11.2007 at 16:06 [UT] »FmJ in F-ruled i.
lately i've been aware that in the natural order of the zodiac the two traditional jupiter ruled signs il are inpolarity connection with the two mercury ruled signs cf.
this reminds me of a very useful word in scrabble,,"jnanna", information received in meditation.
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i like inner knowing quite a lot. right next door to insanity and abhorrant to the cartesians, when investment in
the little self is let go, any direction that the little mind might pursue can be supported in its journey by higher
mind.
the two traditional G ruled signs,,,j&k,, are in polarity connection with the rulers of the inner(Bd) andouter (Ae)worlds.
i'm looking for insight, soon to be available on day time t.v....
communication with the dead,,,,we are the aliens,,,history is circular with just enough lateral momentum tomake a nice spiral~")*there is a certain potential for healing history with heart body (d/j) and consciousness (c+f+i+l).
then the k/e age can be born again@

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #6 - on: 13.11.2007 at 16:22 [UT] »behobo you have to right a book i ll buy it...

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #7 - on: 13.11.2007 at 16:31 [UT] »It's free to read write hear ~MyriosBack to top

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #8 - on: 13.11.2007 at 16:39 [UT] »just sort of the analects by behobo on different subjects

so easy and entertaining to read....

but what do expect on tv behobo?
i woudn't mind to have FmJmO in my natal
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #9 - on: 13.11.2007 at 17:05 [UT] »Quote from Spiral 28 on 12.11.2007 at 16:40 [UT]:When Jupiter comes to an exact conjunction of Pluto at 28:23 Sagittarius on December 11th , the Sun is 19 and Mercury is 15 in
Sagittarius, sextile Neptune at 19 Aquarius. There are other very pleasant and helpful aspects this day. Saturn at 8 Virgo is sextile Venus
at 8 Scorpio, sextile Mars at 8 Cancer, and that morning Moon is 8 Capricorn in this trine-sextile combination.

With all these lovely, and possibly powerful, aspects, maybe we can all have a nice Astrodienst Christmas Party!
Let the mulled wine flow and the carol singing commence.....
(I would say something serious about the conjunction - but Pluto is sitting right on my ASC. I have too much Plutonian 'seriousness' and lots of 'renewal' stuff going on, myhead is gonna implode and melt away....gahhhhh!!!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction

Member« Reply #10 - on: 13.11.2007 at 17:53 [UT] »Spiral - yes a paradox - but only when viewed in an abstract philosophical way. when viewed from a down toearth, time and space perspective ( Saturn in Virgo ) - Jupiter and Sagitarius have about completed their run
on stage and the other player ( Saturn) is about to enter.... seems more like a major shift in focus than thebalancing of a paradox.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #11 - on: 13.11.2007 at 20:18 [UT] »Think back to december 1994, when Jupiter and Pluto last conjoined - that time in the last degree of Scorpio, I
think. That might give you an idea of what to expect, in general terms, obviously with a Sadge flavour thistime.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #12 - on: 13.11.2007 at 22:02 [UT] »I was nine, I don't remeber too much....this time it squares my sun

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #13 - on: 14.11.2007 at 01:27 [UT] »I am more interested in when Jupiter joins Pluto, and the Sun and Mercury oppose Mars on Dec 18th and thenthe full moon around the 22nd. That would be energy to be aware of.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #14 - on: 14.11.2007 at 05:01 [UT] »When I interviewed Erin Sullivan last summer regarding the Venus Rx topic, she mentioned Jupiter conjunctPluto, according to the late Jim Lewis, is a financial "windfall" aspect. The Magi Society calls this a "Super
Success Aspect." Susan Miller, www.astrologyzone.com , raves about this success aspect in her forecast for
Gemini for November, mentions Bill Gates has this aspect.
Being a late degree Gemini, I have been keeping an eye on this aspect since last June, it's a good boost in the
7th house in the solar chart, Jupiter brings a positive outcome to the Pluto opposition, which in relationshipwas intense, but controlling.
Another fortunate aspect on Dec. 11th is Venus trine Mars Rx, also great for relationships, and for the Gemini
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and the Venus in Scorpio, from inheritance or other people's money.
Not a bad time to buy that lottery ticket, but I have another horse in this race, a piece of commercial property
for sale that my father gave me, a deal has been in the wind for some time, I'm hoping this comes through andfills the treasure chest.
Beyond the material plane, Jupiter/Pluto could bring rich emotional, spiritual insights. The Venus in 7 deg.
Scorpio trine Mars Rx reflects the last "Superior Conjunction" of Venus D and the Sun on October 28th, 2006,
at 4 degrees Scorpio, the Superior Conjunction is a time when we can activate our inner emotional values
redefined from the previous "Inferior Conjunction," Sun Venus Rx conjunction.
When December 11th approaches, it would be very interesting to hear how this affects those with significant
aspects to the Jupiter Pluto conjunction.
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Ex Member« Reply #15 - on: 14.11.2007 at 08:01 [UT] »I am seriously looking forward to the upcoming FJm because it will be in my 12th house and I could use abreak from the intense psychological transformation I have been going through lately.

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Ex Member« Reply #16 - on: 14.11.2007 at 09:21 [UT] »Well, I have this FJm in 6h, in an applying trine to moon (0. 26 deg, taurus, 11 h)
Don't know how to define the degrees for this transit, but I have allready felt an increased emotional opening
to the depth of my inner subconsciousness. That's from plutos energy to moon, and now jupiter joins in...
expanding even moore, I think...
I'm about to start my own business, counceling unemployed people, coaching and stuff like that... so I think
this transit will be a great bost for me, to connect to people in powerposition for some good businessdeals.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #17 - on: 14.11.2007 at 19:52 [UT] »Twinwolf
I too associate Jupiter/Pluto with massive wealth....Bill Gates has the combination in Leo in the 2nd
I have invested in some shares and am very much hoping they will come through for me or at least start toshow some real potential as Jupiter/Pluto conjuncts the Galactic Centre in December....the 10th is the peaksince the moon will conjunct it too then....
It will conjunct my north node at 26 Sag..11th house of hopes and wishes.... and opposite my Mercury at 26
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #18 - on: 14.11.2007 at 21:48 [UT] »My vertex is at 2 degrees Capricorn. Would the Jupiter/Pluto be considered a conjunction to the vertex?

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Member« Reply #19 - on: 14.11.2007 at 22:27 [UT] »the conjunction will be in the 4th house for me....
I want to move... I'd like to get in my own home... it looks like a might have a rare opportunity; hopefully
things will go well.
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In the meantime, I've had plumbing trouble for months!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #20 - on: 15.11.2007 at 00:15 [UT] »Have been reading about the astronomical implications of FmJm galctic centre at 26degrees i - very technicaland complex and don't understand lots of it but in part it refers to hitherto inknown, unnacountablepulses/vibrations literally emanating from said centre/black hole - speculation about new entity/systemendeavouring to make itself known.
Astrologically, don't particularly agree with the concept of 'massive wealth' in respect of this configuration - feelit's more to do with a shift in global consciousness and one which correlates to bringing about a higher
awareness of more profound spiritual values as opposed to earthy, material, monetory matters.
It may wellbe that the global economy (aka, 'massive wealth' for the capitalists) will continue to decline and that, worst
case cenario will collapse and chaos will ensue (it's happening already). This configuration, in whatever form it
manifests, may be the catalyst for an evolutionary step up to a higher consciousness, one that is more
enduring and which combines our best knowledge/advances to date with the spiritual awareness of ourpersonhood, responsibilities and ultimately our dependency on the planet earth which sustains us.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #21 - on: 18.11.2007 at 19:46 [UT] »Here's the chart on 10th December for the conjunction - looks like it's not only Jupiter and Pluto conjunct - it'salmost a supercluster!
Chart attached (no time specified)
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #22 - on: 18.11.2007 at 19:55 [UT] »Ps: part of me thinks this may be the final "crescendo" before the two planets transit into Capricorn.
It just feels like all the Sagittarian "themes" that were dominant in the past 10-13 years; ie: expansion of
economy as Devonshire said, religious troubles, immigration/travel - the paranoia over air travel - laws & acts
(or lack of law enforcement, especially in UK), debates over freedom of speech, even obesity, will come to ahead as it were, or maybe start to disintegrate and break down, in preparation for the "Capricornian Era"
Maybe I'll be lucky and the house price bubble will burst with a loud pop...(I don't think I'm that lucky though,despite i B & ASC)
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #23 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:02 [UT] »During exact F-J conjunction, the B will no longer be in conjunction.
Cool chart!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #24 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:14 [UT] »According to Vertex's chart she has posted I see a double kite formation. Am I wrong? What significance does
this bare on the date?
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #25 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:14 [UT] »This conjunction will fall in my first house (still conjunct my ASC at 23o51'). Hopefully, the effect of this will bepositive.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #26 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:15 [UT] »Quote from vertex on 18.11.2007 at 20:14 [UT]:This conjunction will fall in my first house (still conjunct my ASC at 23o 51'). Hopefully, the effect of this will be positive.

Mine too, Vertex... Let's "hold hands" and pray for the best?
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #27 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:17 [UT] »Quote from Ms. Miranda on 18.11.2007 at 20:14 [UT]:
According to Vertex's chart she has posted I see a double kite formation. Am I wrong? What significance does this bare on the date?
Love and blessings,
MirandaIt's an amazing chart. The B up there conjunct MC.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #28 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:19 [UT] »I see a cradle too... I think I'm going to faint...

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #29 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:20 [UT] »Maybe our troops will finally start coming home.
Love and blessings,
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #30 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:23 [UT] »I'm hoping this conjunction will bring Positive Transformation!!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #31 - on: 18.11.2007 at 20:26 [UT] »Quote from Ms. Miranda on 18.11.2007 at 20:19 [UT]:
I see a cradle too... I think I'm going to faint...

Love and blessings,
MirandaThere is a mystic rectangle in there too...
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Ex Member« Reply #32 - on: 18.11.2007 at 21:47 [UT] »Quote from vertex on 18.11.2007 at 20:17 [UT]:
Quote from Ms. Miranda on 18.11.2007 at 20:14 [UT]:
According to Vertex's chart she has posted I see a double kite formation. Am I wrong? What significance does this bare on
the date?
Love and blessings,
MirandaIt's an amazing chart. The

B up there conjunct MC.

Yes, that is most beautiful...especially in Capricorn.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #33 - on: 18.11.2007 at 22:18 [UT] »yes a mystic rectangle,I dont know what it means properly but I like it geometrically speaking
but,the orbs are really wide here,it looks like pluto and jupiter are in opposition to the mars but its an
opposition by an orb of 9 degrees...its on the edge of being considered a proper thing...
so maybe if you would cut down the orbs a bit things wouldnt look so dramatic.
by the way,its happening in my first house too....brrr

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #34 - on: 19.11.2007 at 00:12 [UT] ».....And in mine!!!
There's a lot of First House people here! We should compare notes after the conjunction passes....

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #35 - on: 19.11.2007 at 00:23 [UT] »Lowering the orbs eliminates the BD sextile which has a orb of 5. Orb of 5 for a luminary is not big andshould be significant. With that aspect still in, we still have a double kite, mystic rectangle, cradles, grand trineetc
Also, the FJ n E may be a weak opposition, but that doesn't mean the effect isn't there. JMHO.
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Ex Member« Reply #36 - on: 19.11.2007 at 01:10 [UT] »It will be in my 6th house ( by a hair as it starts at 27 degrees), so I'm hoping it will help my career which just
isn't happening.

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Ex Member« Reply #37 - on: 19.11.2007 at 07:48 [UT] »Chart for 1 december 1994 - FmJ
I think there may be some hints from back then, what you can expect from this energy now.
I've read somewhere that this aspect can symbolise "buried wealth".

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #38 - on: 19.11.2007 at 13:41 [UT] »Quote from silverfish on 19.11.2007 at 07:48 [UT]:Chart for 1 december 1994 -FmJ

I think there may be some hints from back then, what you can expect from this energy now. I've read somewhere that this aspect cansymbolise "buried wealth".

I'm starting to see how this may manifest for me. My divorce was finalized in December of '06 and the assets
have not been completely disbursed, but should be soon, especially if my house sells. I've been cultivating mycareer in a probono format for the last three years. Perhaps now, I'll get my finances settled and the "release"of those fund will help me seed my career ambitions. I've been working pro bono for years in life coachignfamily dealing with autism, so now perhaps, I'll be able to get into speaking gigs that pay. Lastly, I've been
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Love and blessings,
MirandaPS And maybe I'll finally commit to getting off of sugar once and for all and getting fat behind to a gym!

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Domenica« Reply #39 - on: 19.11.2007 at 14:18 [UT] »Ex Member.... and, if my O is in n of J/F in 26th degree of c? My O in the 5th house? What could be wrong with me?
I' afraid about this, mainly E is in the same house in retrograde.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #40 - on: 19.11.2007 at 14:32 [UT] »It'll be in my 7th.....
Hmmm, hoping for lovely 'partner' type of things and NOT 'open enemies'

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Member« Reply #41 - on: 19.11.2007 at 14:51 [UT] »It will be m my MC within two degrees, just inside the 10th house. Would be really grateful if anyone could say
whether they think that is positive or challenging - as I am at absolute make or break point with mycareer/reputation (positive - starting new projet which is going well after a slow start and has huge potential negative am going through court case for fraud (am innocent) after I was systematically ripped off and lost myprevious business and house). Thanks!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #42 - on: 19.11.2007 at 15:03 [UT] »My Imum Coeli is at 28 deg. 41 min. i. I hope, I'll have a nice December.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #43 - on: 19.11.2007 at 18:08 [UT] »Jupiter will amplify and expand whatever Pluto is currently up to in your chart. 12 yrs ago Jup/Plu was squaring
my planets. This time it's trining. Another difference between last time and this time is that it's doing its thingfrom a different house and was conjunct the apex of a T-Square, which was very unlucky for me. This time it's
part of a grand trine, which has been very lucky. I am indeed receiving a windfall financially and in other ways
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Member« Reply #44 - on: 19.11.2007 at 18:35 [UT] »My partner has F in 1st, at 0 degrees j, my FmB are at 2 and 3 degrees j in 9th…… we'll win the lottery
and go on vacation?
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Ex Member« Reply #45 - on: 19.11.2007 at 18:44 [UT] »Quote from Michelle on 19.11.2007 at 18:08 [UT]:
Jupiter will amplify and expand whatever Pluto is currently up to in your chart. 12 yrs ago Jup/Plu was squaring my planets. This time it'strining. Another difference between last time and this time is that it's doing its thing from a different house and was conjunct the apex ofa T-Square, which was very unlucky for me. This time it's part of a grand trine, which has been very lucky. I am indeed receiving awindfall financially and in other ways as well.

Pluto/Jupiter will be forming a trine with my natal Venus/Uranus/Vertex conjunction despite it being in
opposition with my Mercury and Eros. I say "despite" because I don't know if that will be good or bad. So
much depends on houses being occupied (in the case of Venus/Uranus, that would be the 8th and the Vertex isin the 7th while Eros is in the 5th and Mercury's in the 6th) while the transiting conjunction will be in my 12th
for quite some time. Even after the conjunction, these two planets will remain in this house until Jupiter enters
my 1st house in early March.
I am looking forward to Valentine's Day since I'll have Juno, Pluto and Jupiter in my 12th. I guess this meansthat a secret love will be solidified by then. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #46 - on: 20.11.2007 at 01:06 [UT] »MemberWow - this is like, 2 days after my 50th bilrthday - I'm going to have to think about this!!!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #47 - on: 20.11.2007 at 01:22 [UT] »JD, you are going to have quite a solar return chart!!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #48 - on: 20.11.2007 at 07:15 [UT] »Quote from Viviene on 14.11.2007 at 19:52 [UT]:
It will conjunct my north node at 26 Sag..11th house of hopes and wishes.... and opposite my Mercury at 26 Gemini....Jupiter rules my
Pisces 2nd houe and Mercury rules my 8th house of investments and my 5th house of speculation! Touch wood!
Good luck everyone

I have the FmJ exactly n my C (4th house). I am still a bit lost with interpreting transits and aspects so not
sure what this might mean for me. I only recently moved house though and my college exams will be over somaybe I will get to intensely enjoy my new place? or not? yikes!
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #49 - on: 20.11.2007 at 08:31 [UT] »I have an important MP at where this Ju/Pl conjunction will occur. Mn=24Sag and Ju=2Cap with Ju on the 7th
cusp. I have not had an indication of what shall happen yet .Usually I have a psychic dream as to what will
happen if it is significant,but I think there might be a relationship on the horizon.
Pluto rules my 5th and Ju co-rules 6th.The Mn rules my asc..
Will be an interesting period.
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Member« Reply #50 - on: 20.11.2007 at 09:05 [UT] »soundescape....so you have mercury at 26 gemini too? The transit of jupiter and pluto opp your 4th housemercury certainly fits in with your move and also finishing your exams...its a whole new life for you.
The 10th in my view not only corresponds to your career but also to your mother.....could be major changes
there.....and your family in general.....since the mc/ic line has so much to do with the family and ancestry.
Have you found pluto's transit opp your mercury extremely intense and wearing mentally...I have found it quite
a strain over the last year while pluto has spent such a lot of time at 26 sag! A lot of worry andanxiety.....presumably you have had to put a lot of intense mental effort into studying for yourPosts: 872
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Certainly I would expect a lot of opportunities in regard to your "career" or vocation. Look out forthem....traditional interpretations would be that authority figues and those in a position of power (esp withpluto there) will be inclined to look favourably upon you...a good time to look for work etc....or expand(jupiter) your prospects.

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Member« Reply #51 - on: 20.11.2007 at 23:34 [UT] »expansion of restriction for me it seems....jupiter and pluto will be opposing my saturn and conjuncting myNN.and saturn will be opposing my sun.its restriction on restriction and thats how I feel right now,its sofrustrating...

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Member« Reply #52 - on: 21.11.2007 at 01:19 [UT] »So, we're all wondering what's ahead....I sure hope for something in the peace and goodwill dept. forhumanity...

FmJsits right on top of my 5th house Vertex - less than 1 degree from exact. I'm hoping this bodes well fora relationship I'm in.....This FmJ trines our Composite's North Node. Hmmm.
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Pluto, and Chiron. I had a professional reading done earlier this year, and she "warned" me that this FmJ
would effect me more strongly than most people.. Hmmm. I'm in seminary now..undergoing a careerchange...Hmmm.
So, let's all hold hands for this one! Peace to you all,Tsering

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #53 - on: 21.11.2007 at 02:41 [UT] »Discover,That conjunct to your vertex should be very interesting. What house is your vertex?

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Krist« Reply #54 - on: 21.11.2007 at 02:46 [UT] »Membercaroseed,
Is your MC @ 26*Sagittarius? like mine? Ive been looking for a job for 4 months with no luck.
Hopefully it will bring a new job for me. The conjunct will be squaring my Jupiter Vertex conjunct in my natal
chart & sextiling my moon in the 7th house.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #55 - on: 21.11.2007 at 02:51 [UT] »Tsering, trans Jupiter and transPluto are on my natal vertex, in my fifth house. I have been contemplating
entering seminary....no coincidences?!

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Ex Member« Reply #56 - on: 21.11.2007 at 02:53 [UT] »I really think this Pluto /Jupiter conjunction will have alot to do with the holidays coming up. I have noticed
over the years how miserable people have become around Christmas and I think its about that time we had amajor re-structuring of our beliefs and reconsider what we truly value in this life. Instead of being all about
spending time with" my family"maybe it will be more about"our family" A time to nourish the collective spirit and give back to theearth. Maybe people will start making their own gifts more or doing things for others instead of flooding thestores and running over people with shopping carts just so they can buy some insignificant hot-right-now
gadget. We might also witness a cosmic event that we've never seen before(signals of life on another planet?)or a new religion. Ancient wisdom may be involved here. It is also possible we could have a major catastrophethat would initially be unfavorable but would bring people together in way never before and change the world
forever. Thats my take on things.
I feel that alot of people have given up hope and maybe this conjunction will inspire people in some way. The
world could change in a minute.
Personally, I have my vertex at 1 Cap and it is sextiling natal Uranus, sextiling sun and squaring Venus. I also
have my Pluto square coming up shortly at 8 Cap so I am feeling events in the next month or so will have somerelevance to the Pluto square. My wish is that I can finally tap into my hidden creativity/resources ( Scorpio)

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Ex Member« Reply #57 - on: 21.11.2007 at 04:47 [UT] »Quote from Ffantazsia on 14.11.2007 at 22:27 [UT]:
the conjunction will be in the 4th house for me....
I want to move... I'd like to get in my own home... it looks like a might have a rare opportunity; hopefully things will go well.
I was told to get a "fixer upper" as Pluto would prefer it that way...
In the meantime, I've had plumbing trouble for months!

Sounds like you and I are in the same boat, only I rent! Were you born in 1974, by chance?
Someone mentioned the last time these two planets were conjunct was in December of 1994--well guess what I
was doing back then? That's right, I was moving! And the move was relatively drastic as I was thrown into aworld of new friends and experiences I'd only dreamt of. The place I moved into was also, to this day, myfavorite apartment ever.
Back then I'd gone under a metamorphosis on a spiritual level, and it really changed my outlook on life. Ahh,
1995 was a lot of fun.
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Ex Member« Reply #58 - on: 21.11.2007 at 12:06 [UT] »Quote from 4leafclovah on 21.11.2007 at 02:53 [UT]:
I really think this Pluto /Jupiter conjunction will have alot to do with the holidays coming up. I have noticed over the years how miserable
people have become around Christmas and I think its about that time we had a major re-structuring of our beliefs and reconsider what wetruly value in this life. Instead of being all about spending time with" my family"maybe it will be more about"our family" A time to nourish the collective spirit and give back to the earth. Maybe people will
start making their own gifts more or doing things for others instead of flooding the stores and running over people with shopping carts justso they can buy some insignificant hot-right-now gadget. We might also witness a cosmic event that we've never seen before(signals oflife on another planet?) or a new religion. Ancient wisdom may be involved here. It is also possible we could have a major catastrophethat would initially be unfavorable but would bring people together in way never before and change the world forever. Thats my take on
things.
I feel that alot of people have given up hope and maybe this conjunction will inspire people in some way. The world could change in aminute.
Personally, I have my vertex at 1 Cap and it is sextiling natal Uranus, sextiling sun and squaring Venus. I also have my Pluto square
coming up shortly at 8 Cap so I am feeling events in the next month or so will have some relevance to the Pluto square. My wish is that I
can finally tap into my hidden creativity/resources ( Scorpio)

I think you're right!
I feel like closing a big chapter in my life! I don't know if it's Pluto moving to Capricorn.All these years while
Pluto was in i -it was defenitely time of exploring for me, exploring within and outside and I can feelsomething's ending ...

JmF will be in my XI house. Some help from my friends? Or meeting significant person? Or joining benefitialsociety...
It willn my M and my NF and pG...Considering the last one I hope whatever happen to be solid and lasting! I
really need that!
bilyana
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Ex Member« Reply #59 - on: 21.11.2007 at 19:59 [UT] »It will also be interesting to see if anything will come of the full moon at 1:50 Cancer December 23rd. Jupiterwill have just entered Capricorn and the full moon will conjunct Venus in America's chart with Mars R. in its
path. Mars will sextile America's midpoint on Dec. 24th.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #60 - on: 22.11.2007 at 12:06 [UT] »Hi 4leafclovah,
I wish your Xmas prediction comes true: A time to nourish the collective spirit and give back to the earth.

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Maybe people will start making their own gifts more or doing things for others instead of flooding the storesand running over people with shopping carts just so they can buy some insignificant hot-right-now gadget.
I'm curious how the Jupiter/Pluto conj. taking place in my 7th and moving around my NN there will manifest
itself. Maybe some breakthrough in one to one relationships. Pluto has been staying in my 7th for ten years
now and most relationships were quite exhausting. Short term, intense, unpredictable, difficult. I long for more
harmony.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #61 - on: 23.11.2007 at 05:00 [UT] »Have a look at this - interesting article about JPC.
http://www.astrostar.com/2007Astro-Noetics.htm
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Ex Member« Reply #62 - on: 23.11.2007 at 05:16 [UT] »Thanks for that article Penquin!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #63 - on: 26.11.2007 at 04:22 [UT] »this will occur in my 4th House, conjunct my IC and NN. So...what does this mean? After reading the various
articles posted here, I don't have a clue....maybe Aliens are going to use my home as a Portal through which tocome visit our planet?!?!?
Should I charge a fee for this service, since some posts here suggest there's a linkage to wealth? And if so,
how much of a fee should I charge...I've never done this before. Well, regardless, I promise that I'll try to be agracious host, and actualise the best of my thus-far neglected NN....
Better start vacuuming and tidying up -- party-time is drawing near, and who knows how many sleep-overguests we're talking about here!!
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Ex Member« Reply #64 - on: 26.11.2007 at 05:13 [UT] »Quote from spider on 26.11.2007 at 04:22 [UT]:
this will occur in my 4th House, conjunct my IC and NN. So...what does this mean? After reading the various articles posted here, I don't
have a clue....maybe Aliens are going to use my home as a Portal through which to come visit our planet?!?!?
Should I charge a fee for this service, since some posts here suggest there's a linkage to wealth? And if so, how much of a fee should I
charge...I've never done this before. Well, regardless, I promise that I'll try to be a gracious host, and actualise the best of my thus-far
neglected NN....
Better start vacuuming and tidying up -- party-time is drawing near, and who knows how many sleep-over guests we're talking about
here!!

Thanks for the laugh. It's good to see someone with a sense of humor (or humour) about the whole thing.
Oh, and keep an eye out for bulldozers and Vogons.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #65 - on: 26.11.2007 at 17:49 [UT] »What laugh? You mean that's not a good interpretation of Jupiter/Pluto conjunct the Galactic Center?
Doggonit, and I've been house-cleaning all morning long in preparation, and working out a reasonable feepayment plan!! That does it, I'm done -- back to being a slob, was never into my NN placement anyway.
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Ex Member« Reply #66 - on: 27.11.2007 at 07:02 [UT] »Quote from spider on 26.11.2007 at 17:49 [UT]:
What laugh? You mean that's not a good interpretation of Jupiter/Pluto conjunct the Galactic Center? Doggonit, and I've been housecleaning all morning long in preparation, and working out a reasonable fee-payment plan!! That does it, I'm done -- back to being a slob,
was never into my NN placement anyway.

It just reminded me of HHGTTG, that's all.
Didn't mean to make you cry. Sorry.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #67 - on: 27.11.2007 at 07:24 [UT] »Allthough a relative newcomer to the study of astrology i to am quite interested in this m . It will m my i asc at
25 19 and set off trines to 8th house E m F . I have been aware of "major " changes in my thinking processes
regarding my life-view for the past few weeks in particular and where i might wish to go in my remaining years( I am 63 ) . Though i have have had a superficial interest in astrology through the years it is only now that i
have become more interested in it as a tool for growth prefering instead to rely on my intuitive/psychic abilities
through the years . For me astrology has been a verification of some awarenesses gained through othermediums in my life . Wondering if there are others in the forum that have experienced a similar path /Lee
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #68 - on: 27.11.2007 at 08:33 [UT] »Quote from cynthpoet on 27.11.2007 at 07:02 [UT]:

It just reminded me of HHGTTG, that's all.
Didn't mean to make you cry. Sorry.

well, you're correct that I was trying to be funny/light-hearted about the speculation, though I didn't
specifically have Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" in mind. But I do see the analogy, inhindsight, not that it was intentional.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #69 - on: 27.11.2007 at 08:40 [UT] »I thought
This FmJ in i is much ado about nothing...
But it happens on 28° i, while natal B is 28° f
This seems to hit close to home, litterally and figurally
I have a 0° iIC, so F rules my 4th house...
B is the mundial 'lord' of the 4th house...
So for me it will have its workings in the 4th house, roots, family, mother, beginnings and endings... Moon rules
the 11th... so also an element of future plans, friendship, hopes & ideals
Well, i'm celebrating christmas eve at my mothers, there is some contact for the first in three years... May bethat's a practical example of this transit
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #70 - on: 28.11.2007 at 13:48 [UT] »I'll have this m in 1st house (or is that 2nd? - I'm between koch and equal houses these days), p N and q A,
whilst N will still be T m C and T p J. I will attempt expressing my creativity (N 5th) in one form (T C, A in
1st p e G 9th), from a new appreciation of my-self direction (T K m A) after the new B on the 9th. I'm justhoping that T A and C m my natal I doesn't cloud any inspiration too much, although it's always proved afruitful transit in the past.
It is certainly an inspiring period. I'm thinking that nationally, what with all the current corruption allegations
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new standards of transparency in funding for UK politics. Or perhaps not.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #71 - on: 28.11.2007 at 17:19 [UT] »I just noticed. My Dad was born during a Jupiter Pluto conjunction.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #72 - on: 28.11.2007 at 20:35 [UT] »I`ll have it in my 5th house squaring Saturn and making a sextile to Mars

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #73 - on: 29.11.2007 at 23:04 [UT] »4leafclovah, That's cool!
Was digging up some more today in the World of Google - and found this gem - http://www.world-ofwisdom.com/04_articles/2007/02_elections.htm
An extract from this link has the following:This process is likely to reach a crescendo as Jupiter transits Sagittarius to conjoin Pluto on December 11th
2007 at 28 degrees. This is the last mighty gasp of the doctrine of extremism, after which the pragmatic
climate of Capricorn will defuse religious interpretations of world conflict, and find practical solutions no longer
based on ideological belief.
I think this following story of Pluto/Sagittarian extremism gone completely, well, er....extreme....can be foundhere http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7119399.stm - I mean, the threat of 40 lashes....overpoor Mr Teddy?
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #74 - on: 02.12.2007 at 04:14 [UT] »Adding to my last post - it does seem like East and West are finally agreeing on one thing - about the teacher
in Sudan, and how ludicrous, harsh and waaay too insanely OTT the "punishment" is for naming a teddy"Mohammed".
Looking on other forums, ie BBC one, both Muslims and non-Muslims are equally shocked and outraged. There
does seem to be a bizarre unity going on.
Maybe this JPC is actually going to conclude, resolve and "close down" the extreme religious events and issues
that have been prominent during the past Pluto Sag decade. Hopefully this will be an end to the whole matter,just in time for Pluto and Jupiter to transit Capricorn. (I have i B & ASC - ever the optimist!)
Alternative scenario: Tempers will fray, enough is enough, tolerance limit will have been reached, things will justcome right to the boil and just explode like a pressure cooker, and it will be complete and utter chaos. Until
Jupiter and Pluto transit Capricorn to call for calm. (I have A l - ever the pessimist!)
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OzMeg222

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #75 - on: 02.12.2007 at 04:46 [UT] »Hmm, just looked at my midpoints and this conjunction is going to be sitting bang on my venus/pluto
midpoint in the middle of my 7th house.
Guessing that as I don't have a partner I'm gonna be dealing with 'open enemies'
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Gender:Yay, something else to bitch slap me this year (Yes I'm having a poor me day, I'll get over it- feel free to scold
me about self-pity!)
Of course any suggestions of positive things this conjunction to my midpoint might bring greatly appreciated!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #76 - on: 02.12.2007 at 05:07 [UT] »Quote from OzMeg222 on 02.12.2007 at 04:46 [UT]:
Yay, something else to bitch slap me this year (Yes I'm having a poor me day, I'll get over it- feel free to scold me about self-pity!)
Of course any suggestions of positive things this conjunction to my midpoint might bring greatly appreciated!

I could happily scold you, but me being a Water sign - and being prone to bouts of crippling self-pity like every
Tuesday at teatime - I won't, it would be too double-standardsy!!
It doesn't necessarily have to be about partners or open enemies - it could feasibly be about your best, mostcherished, friends - friends you may have known for years and are almost like family. It could even be aboutbusiness partnerships as well.
Don't forget - in the next few weeks you'll also have the Sun, Moon and Mercury travelling through your 7th
house. Maybe the focus will be on your close friends, in a good way, it will be Christmas after all!
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #77 - on: 02.12.2007 at 05:17 [UT] »Going away for xmas with my kids to see mum and my sister. I think the break will be good.
What's the bet something nice happens down here with regards to my close family-like-friends and not while
I'm up there with actual family!!!
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #78 - on: 02.12.2007 at 13:28 [UT] »Hi OzMeg222
Quote:(I think I just need to get laid...)Posts: 76

It might just happen, I was just looking up Noel Tyl's book and one of the interp he gives for Jupiter=
Venus/Pluto is "sex adventures on vacation"
Have fun!
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Member« Reply #79 - on: 03.12.2007 at 03:10 [UT] »Well I've been wondering myself exactly what this conjunction will mean, not only for myself but for society.

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Gender:Someone said to remember back to dec 1994.....oh yes fond memory....that's when I found out that my new
daughters dad had been sleeping with my brother's wife since before she was born! And she was already a year
and a half old! Very shocking and psychologically debilitating causing all manner of physical psychological andemotional unwellness for the balance of pluto through the 6th. I can't wait till pluto gets out of the 6th!
It also coincided with the day that neptune left the 7th and is what made me a full on believer in astrology.
Wrought with fraud and deception was a little bit of an understatement. Well maybe this conjunction will bringsome comuppance for them (oh yes still dealing with them regularly like a bad muscle spasm that never goes
away!) Or maybe just a lucky break for me as it is conjunct my desc.
As far as society goes, I am sorry to be more pessimistic than alot of posters here but there is always a phaseof destruction before pluto rebuilds and because it is capricorn, old MR gloomy, and because pluto burns thefields, we could be moving into an economic depression or the dissolution of the status quo or the destructionof foundations which, I am sure in the LONG TERM will be a good thing, will not likely start out that way...notwith pluto. Capricorn is long term, building, status, structure, foundation and depression, because of stifled or
overdone ambition.
Perhaps the mortgage crisis is pluto coming into caps orb as it opposes the house of cancer (realestate) andlong term debt (incomes)
As it transited sag it really did effect the 3 classical things sag represents TRAVEL, RELIGION and EDUCATION(a massive increase in school shooters!)
Still wondering and waiting with great anticipation!

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #80 - on: 03.12.2007 at 03:23 [UT] »Quote from missvirgo on 02.12.2007 at 13:28 [UT]:
Hi OzMeg222
Quote:(I think I just need to get laid...)It might just happen, I was just looking up Noel Tyl's book and one of the interp he gives for Jupiter= Venus/Pluto is "sex adventures

on vacation"
Have fun!
missvirgo

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Ex Member« Reply #81 - on: 03.12.2007 at 05:31 [UT] »on dec 11 th when this conjunction is exact ,the the sun will be at 18 degrees sagwich is an exact square to the solar eclipse 18 degrees virgo on sep 11th of this year....
the solar eclipse had a grand cross square with the sun ...meaning this ecclipse is triggerd off by the sun on thisday
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OzMeg222
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #82 - on: 03.12.2007 at 07:25 [UT] »Quote from Ms. Miranda on 03.12.2007 at 03:23 [UT]:
Don't forget...

Jj is coming (no pun intended) use protection!!!

Love and blessings,

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Gender:MirandaBut what does pluto in capricorn mean in this context? Pregnancy? Disease?
BTW- It'll still be in my 7th.
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on dec 11 th when this conjunction is exact ,the the sun will be at 18 degrees sagwich is an exact square to the solar eclipse 18 degrees virgo on sep 11th of this year....
the solar eclipse had a grand cross square with the sun ...any comments

i was born at sun 18 degrees virgo

Oh geez, for me that solar eclipse really capped off issues from the lunar eclipse in march. I hope that old
chestnut doesn't come back to haunt me!
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #83 - on: 03.12.2007 at 15:36 [UT] »Quote:
But what does pluto in capricorn mean in this context? Pregnancy? Disease?
BTW- It'll still be in my 7th.

I thin k I was reading somewhere on the bards here that it was a transit that was going to bring a rise intodiseases, viruses and STDs. I hope this was the one. I just remember reading it here recently and thinking
about my son and myself because we have very fragile immune systems. And as for the STDs, there was acomment about them becomming more prevalent or their numbers increasing, which is interesting in light of areport in the US last week stating that they think that the number of afflicted with AIDS here is considerably
higher than they orignially thought.
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Gender:At any rate... I'd recommend a conservative approach to any new relationship. Historically, there is a lot of work
to be done in this area in general anyhow. Have rushed in without thinking about it lucidly enough and haveended up or are getting divorced (guilty). With secondary chances, we need to be reflective and consider our
relationship patterns in this new J in j. And i think that the FmJ will bring this enlightenment to the fore
for many. I think it is already happening. I've felt my own self thinking long and hard about what I woudl wantin a relationship in the future, but I'm not actually ready to have one. Too many others things are a priority,
like my health and my son right now. I'm no astrologer, but from what I've read about this Jj transit, I get
the impression the pendulum needs to swing back a little dramatically so we can assess ourselves andreconsider past patterns of behavior and how we conduct our lives fiscally, emotionally, behaviorally, spiritually,sexually and with regards to how we balance family and work. Wild abandon, reckless behavior and any
behavior that is too impulsive for our own good, or we later regret is up for examination. And as for
relationships and our sexual lives, I think that the challenge is to consider a more conservative approach,despite our labidos, at the very least to maintain healthy emotional, physical and spiritual boundaries.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #84 - on: 03.12.2007 at 16:04 [UT] »This upcoming conj is happening in my 6th house, almost exactly opposite mynatal Jupiter (28gem35)in the 12 house. This conj is also on my Moon/Nep midpoint (29Sag06)
Can anyone interpret that for me please? I am thinking something big spiritually, like meeting a guru. My prog

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Moon is also in orb of sextiling my natal Jupiter.
thanksmissvirgo
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #85 - on: 03.12.2007 at 17:00 [UT] »People I will have a realy hard aspects. Transit pluto and jupiter will conjunct my natal sun/neptun conjuction in
4.house. My sun is on 0 degree of capricorn and neptun at 1.degree.
And transit saturn is in my 12.house and making square to chiron and triogon with sun and neptune.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #86 - on: 03.12.2007 at 20:17 [UT] »Hello allT J is m my Prog B within a couple of minutes of arc at the present time.
The T J mF is already well within three degrees of completion. So for all practical purposes this three planet
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Gender:aspect is already in effect in my chart. This occurs in Jupiters sign so Jupiter disposits.
Further in my birth location natal chart this three planet conjunction p my Natal Ascendant.
However in my relocation chart these threeo my Prog Ascendant.

It is an intersting period and surely something significant should occur while it is in effect.
I have a sister who is a i (Sun in last degree of i) who is not in good health.
I am concerned that it might be read as death (Pluto) family (Moon) of a i
I am also concerned because it occurs in the 5th house of children and I have a child.
On the positive side it could mean a fortunate (F) great change (J) brought about by the conjunction with
the Prog B.
We shall see.
Gene Ray
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #87 - on: 03.12.2007 at 20:38 [UT] »The upcoming Jupiter-Pluto conjunction will conjunct my natal Chiron at 27i55, in the 7th house; and will
also fall on my Jupiter/Neptune midpoint at 28 i 48. Any thoughts on how that might unfold? I'm almost
scared to ask!
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Member« Reply #88 - on: 03.12.2007 at 21:30 [UT] »Gene
I feel for you as I have a similar situation along with personal issues involved with this coming cj. in SAG. My
sister just had an operation that makes the X-Rays look like PEG Leg. .She is in so much pain and there isnothing I can do for her.You feel helpless and frustrated.
I had Pl=Mn a few yes. ago and my mother died. I knew it might occur a few yrs. back ,but nothing prepares
you for it no matter how much we try.
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Gender:My thoughts are with you!
Quote from Gene Ray on 03.12.2007 at 20:17 [UT]:Hello allT

J is m my Prog B within a couple of minutes of arc at the present time.
J mF is already well within three degrees of completion. So for all practical purposes this three planet aspect is already in effect in

The T

my chart. This occurs in Jupiters sign so Jupiter disposits.
Further in my birth location natal chart this three planet conjunction
However in my relocation chart these three

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It is an intersting period and surely something significant should occur while it is in effect.
I have a sister who is ai (Sun in last degree of i) who is not in good health.
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I am concerned that it might be read as death (Pluto) family (Moon) of a

I am also concerned because it occurs in the 5th house of children and I have a child.
On the positive side it could mean a fortunate ( ) great change ( ) brought about by the conjunction with the Prog

F

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We shall see.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #89 - on: 05.12.2007 at 10:56 [UT] »Now I'm looking further at this midpoint thing with regards to this jupiter/pluto conjunction, I notice that mysun/moon midpoint is at 28deg taurus (its the same sun/moon midpoint as the only man I loved funnily
enough).
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Gender:So the jupiter/pluto conjunction will be inconjunct our sun/moon midpoints, but I'm not sure if thats a valid
aspect to make with a midpoint.
I'm very fond of the inconjunct, I use it along with the 'regular' aspects- I personally believe it possibly carries
more weight than a sextile in a natal chart.
Does anyone have an opinion on whether the jupiter/pluto conjunction will have an effect on that sun/moon
midpoint or do only conjunctions/oppositions count with midpoints?

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #90 - on: 05.12.2007 at 11:43 [UT] »Quote from OzMeg222 on 05.12.2007 at 10:56 [UT]:

I'm very fond of the inconjunct, I use it along with the 'regular' aspects- I personally believe it possibly carries more weight than a sextile
in a natal chart.
Does anyone have an opinion on whether the jupiter/pluto conjunction will have an effect on that sun/moon midpoint or do only
conjunctions/oppositions count with midpoints?

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Reinhold Ebertin would consider only m, o and n aspects to mid-points.
It would be interesting to see whether and how the inconjunct plays out in your chart. So far, what has been
your experience of inconjunct aspects hitting a natal planet ? Similar to a sextile although stronger ?
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #91 - on: 05.12.2007 at 12:13 [UT] »I haven't actually taken notice of inconjunct aspects when it comes to transits. I try not to look at transits toomuch cos there's always the worry that I'll expect things to happen/not happen, I prefer to look at the transits
after the fact and see how they've played out. But thats only been with the commonly used aspects, never theinconjunct.
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Gender:This jupiter/pluto conjunction will be conjunct my natal venus/pluto midpoint which I thought seemed nice (itsin my 7th), so I got curious and then looked at everything in my chart at 28deg.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #92 - on: 05.12.2007 at 15:39 [UT] »Quote from OzMeg222 on 05.12.2007 at 12:13 [UT]:
I haven't actually taken notice of inconjunct aspects when it comes to transits. I try not to look at transits too much cos there's always theworry that I'll expect things to happen/not happen, I prefer to look at the transits after the fact and see how they've played out. But thatsonly been with the commonly used aspects, never the inconjunct.
This jupiter/pluto conjunction will be conjunct my natal venus/pluto midpoint which I thought seemed nice (its in my 7th), so I got curious

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I guess we'll see!

Hello Ozmeg222
Regarding the T J m F and the inconjunct aspect. I agree that the inconjunct aspect is an important aspect.
It relates generally to 6th & 8th house affairs. Since J is the natural 8th house ruler an inconjunct from or tothis conjunction could be important. In other words we have an 8th house aspect and an 8th house planet
involved. If the accidental ruler of the 8th house is involved as well, or if either end of the inconjunct rests in
the 8th house then we have further testimonies.
I do not use midpoints myself so I would not give any significance to aspects to midpoints.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #93 - on: 05.12.2007 at 23:47 [UT] »Well, we've had a mall shooting in the USA..a nice little prelude to Christmas.Many people I have talked to are
dreading Christmas.
Unfortunately, with Mars retrograding in Cancer people might be more
emotionally charged than in previous years.Lets hope this isn't a trend leading up to the holidays.
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #94 - on: 07.12.2007 at 00:59 [UT] »I have my part of fortune at 28 Sag. I will buy ya'll a drink if something really good happens...clink!

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Ex Member« Reply #95 - on: 07.12.2007 at 19:50 [UT] »I've got Pluto on my IC, squaring my AC. My partner and I are currently involved in a war against uranium
exploration in our area. Our land has been staked and we have no legal means to stop explorers from coming
onto our land and exploring. As Jupiter approaches, I am becoming increasingly aware of just how big thisbattle is. I have to consider just how much I can lose (our property is worthless right now) and how much I'm
willing to lose. I cannot truly fight without risking my security. There is also a tremendous amount ofresearch we've had to do and I'm realizing just how much more we have to do. Questions of how to avoid
getting sued come up and I'm really worried about that. Mining companies aren't afraid to pick on the little
guy!
Yup, Jupiter conjuncting Pluto is really bringing home the situation.
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Member« Reply #96 - on: 10.12.2007 at 19:47 [UT] »Well, no matter what I'm going to buy some lottery tickets tomorrow. Just in case. Pluto is in my 1/2nd housenatally, so ... it can't possibly hurt.

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Member« Reply #97 - on: 10.12.2007 at 20:11 [UT] »We have not mentioned the conservative, cautious, suspicious, tightning of rules in sexual situations for Plutoin Capricorn ? Candidate Mike Huckabee came out today supporting his former statement that all AIDS
patients should be "confined", and that all homosexuals are commiting a sin and living in immoral
circumstances. Pluto in Capricorn works with the energies of this situation. He will appeal to Middle America
who do not like the ultra sophisticates to tell them what they should approve or believe.

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CNN.com, Huckabee view on AIDS unchanged:*******************************************The tightning of the rules on all sexual conduct not considered "traditional" would be pure Pluto in Capircorn,(pressure applied on sexual topics by the powers that be). As the AIDS epidemic spreads, watch for panic
and the resulting "detainment" of those people that might cause a threat, if an ultra conservative gets into theWhite House.

Pluto will be in Capricorn through 2023.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #98 - on: 10.12.2007 at 20:48 [UT] »After having read Susan Miller's astrology zone - I went out and bought myself a lottery ticket
for the firsttime in my life
No luck for me, no JmF in 8th
I could write a book on how J transits have afflicted mylife, but unfortunately, no lucky winning for me this year. There's always some challenging aspect with my natal
planet, for instance, Rx E in my 2nd (could explain sudden gambling aspiration)
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Gender:t J 8th iq nB in 11th kt J p nD in 12th bt J p nE in 12th bt J s n A ASC in 12th band vice versa aspects with t F

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Member« Reply #99 - on: 10.12.2007 at 21:06 [UT] »Quote from Spiral 28 on 10.12.2007 at 20:11 [UT]:
We have not mentioned the conservative, cautious, suspicious, tightning of rules in sexual situations for Pluto in Capricorn ? Candidate
Mike Huckabee came out today supporting his former statement that all AIDS patients should be "confined", and that all homosexuals arecommiting a sin and living in immoral circumstances. Pluto in Capricorn works with the energies of this situation. He will appeal to Middle
America who do not like the ultra sophisticates to tell them what they should approve or believe.

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CNN.com, Huckabee view on AIDS unchanged:
Hello Spiral and all
I can agree that a more restrained sexual view is likely one of the ways that Pluto in Capricorn may work out. As I have said previously in
The 9d 11m Gemini rising chart of the USA, Capricorn rules the equal 8th house & the first few degrees of Capricorn are still in the equal
7th. This fits as well with what you have written.
Another very likely outcome of this position is financial upheaval both of the USA and of its foriegn (Sag) partners (7th house).
The financial markets are still in a state of denial of the massive problems that we are facing. A swiss bank today took a 12 bilion dollar
write down on its subprime mortagage portfollo. This follows many other European and American & Japanese write downs for the same
reason. One large company sold its subprime & CDO packages at 27 cents on the dollar just to get out before the real crash which iscomming soon.
An article I read yesterday said that while this upheaval may not be as bad as the 1929 era it will be the worst since then.
There is not much we can do about it. It's comming whether we like it or now. Moody's predicts that in some areas of Florida andCalifornia house prices will drop by 30 + percent over the next two years. Be careful.
Gene Ray*******************************************The tightning of the rules on all sexual conduct not considered "traditional" would be pure Pluto in Capircorn, (pressure applied on sexual
topics by the powers that be). As the AIDS epidemic spreads, watch for panic and the resulting "detainment" of those people that mightcause a threat, if an ultra conservative gets into the White House. Pluto will be in Capricorn through 2023.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #100 - on: 11.12.2007 at 16:34 [UT] »I had a dream that I was famous....ah! FmJ dream

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #101 - on: 11.12.2007 at 18:15 [UT] »The planets are colliding in my 1st house, so I'm feeling uplifted very much and have finally been struck with
Holiday spirit. I had a very achetypically significant dream I'm still muddling through.
Today I started my day with a meaningful meditation that was requesting that the restriction in my life start toalleviate. When I got into my car REO Speedwagon's "Time For Me to Fly" was playing. Oh yeah... I wept like ababy.
Also, everyone is SO nice today, despite the bad icy weather here in Chicago. My car repairs were not as bad as
I was expecting, and they even rotated my tired for free at the shop. Meanwhile, I had to rent a car and therental company upgraded me to a VERY nice car for free last night.

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #102 - on: 11.12.2007 at 18:17 [UT] »it's now actual good luck FJ http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #103 - on: 11.12.2007 at 18:29 [UT] »Quote from drummergirl on 07.12.2007 at 19:50 [UT]:
I've got Pluto on my IC, squaring my AC. My partner and I are currently involved in a war against uranium exploration in our area. Ourland has been staked and we have no legal means to stop explorers from coming onto our land and exploring. As Jupiter approaches, I am
becoming increasingly aware of just how big this battle is. I have to consider just how much I can lose (our property is worthless rightnow) and how much I'm willing to lose. I cannot truly fight without risking my security. There is also a tremendous amount of research
we've had to do and I'm realizing just how much more we have to do. Questions of how to avoid getting sued come up and I'm reallyworried about that. Mining companies aren't afraid to pick on the little guy! Yup, Jupiter conjuncting Pluto is really bringing home thesituation.

That is amazing drummer girl, I mean your situation and its astrologial description.
What house does Jupiter rule in your chart?
I wish you a positive outcome
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Ex Member« Reply #104 - on: 12.12.2007 at 18:57 [UT] »during the day of dec 11th i have met a man who won the lottery - 100s of millions big jackpot 2 yrs ago - andit was interesting talking to him how his life changed from one day to the next ...
i also came across a very interesting article on how to open the third eye,
http://p202.ezboard.com/ftwinsoulsandsoulmatesfrm6.showMessage?topicID=451.topic
i ve been doing this meditation and i can feel the area in my upper forehead whirling with energy...maybe i ll
succeed opening it...good luck to me hehethe conjunction happens in my 5th house.
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Ex Member« Reply #105 - on: 15.12.2007 at 05:21 [UT] »Quote from irisz on 11.12.2007 at 18:29 [UT]:That is amazing drummer girl, I mean your situation and its astrologial description.
What house does Jupiter rule in your chart?
I wish you a positive outcome
Irisz

Thanks Irisz,
Jupiter rules my 4th house. I hope it will be a positive outcome but it is a David & Goliath type situation and
we're definitely in for the long haul. Astrologically, it is pretty interesting.

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Member« Reply #106 - on: 16.12.2007 at 19:11 [UT] »What can I say? This pluto jupiter conjunction that I was so looking forward to has brought up some shocks
rather than surprises! I got a written notice out of the blue warning me that I might lose my job if I don't mind
my p's and q's. It may have to do with my mars retrograding through my third house. The conjunction of pluto
jupiter is happening right in the cusp of my ninth house.
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Member« Reply #107 - on: 16.12.2007 at 21:24 [UT] »Drinks all round..I got offered directorship position at work on dec 12 after the current director suddenly gave
3 weeks notice. She wasn't supposed to leave til June but something happened and poof she's gone. My
progressed C is exactly m MC and transiting G is m natalC , so those go with more responsibility in career. So
I guess this is how it's playing out for me...yikes I'm not absolutely sure if I'll like it but I need the benefits,
extra $$ etc.
drummer girl that's scary ...good luck to you !

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #108 - on: 17.12.2007 at 14:39 [UT] »Quote from drummergirl on 07.12.2007 at 19:50 [UT]:
I've got Pluto on my IC, squaring my AC. My partner and I are currently involved in a war against uranium exploration in our area. Ourland has been staked and we have no legal means to stop explorers from coming onto our land and exploring. As Jupiter approaches, I am
becoming increasingly aware of just how big this battle is. I have to consider just how much I can lose (our property is worthless rightnow) and how much I'm willing to lose. I cannot truly fight without risking my security. There is also a tremendous amount of research
we've had to do and I'm realizing just how much more we have to do. Questions of how to avoid getting sued come up and I'm reallyworried about that. Mining companies aren't afraid to pick on the little guy! Yup, Jupiter conjuncting Pluto is really bringing home thesituation.

Drummergirl, isn't there some nonprofit group that can help protect your rights or perhaps even homeowner's
insurance? Even though it looks bleak right now, things can end up in your favor with this big business/legal
aspect. There's an attorney out there perfectly suited and willing to help you if your legal rights are being
violated, probably someone from a large city. If your legal rights aren't being violated, then you'll probably
have to cooperate, but try not to lose faith/optimism. In your case it looks like this begins a period of massive
growth in business, financial and educational areas as Jupiter continues to move through your chart and aspect
other planets. Relief could come in the following months.
If you don't own the mining/mineral rights to your property, that's one thing, but it seems like you'd beentitled to some kind of financial compensation for any kind of disruption to the use of your property if you're
living there or planning to build, and that it would have to be returned to its prior state after any kind of
exploration.
Good luck getting the help you need.
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Ex Member« Reply #109 - on: 18.12.2007 at 02:13 [UT] »Hi Michelle,This is going to be a little off topic to astrology but I'll try to tie it in so that it doesn't seem like too much of adiatribe against the uranium mining industry.
I wish it were the case that we had any protection in this at all but the mining laws in Canada are antiquatedand completely in favour of the miners. They can explore on our land, which includes stripping, digging,
drilling, etc. and they have no obligation to return the land to its natural state. They do not even have to
notify us that they are going to explore until 24 hours before they're scheduled to do it! If an actual mine
were to go in across the street from us, or on the property behind us, it is unlikely that we would receive somuch as a penny unless they wanted our land as well. Even if they buy us out, we do not want to leave ourland. It's beautiful and we love it. This is really precedent setting situation we and a number of other people
are in. The health effects of uranium mining are well known and we eventually want to pursue legal action on
the basis that a uranium mine near us will jeopardize our health.
lawyer who's willing to take on our case (if we have one) for free!

We still need to find that high-powered

To bring it back to astrology, I hope that Jupiter brings some luck. It has brought more exposure to our fightand lots more people are supporting us - including some fairly influential people. Since this issue landed on
our doorstep, it has taken my life in a different, yet more satisfying direction. The Jupiter/Pluto conjuction
affecting all my angles has completely shaken up the way I relate the world and changed the course of my life.
It's interesting that you mention growth in business and education because I've had to educate myself, notonly on the mining issue, but on the stock market and business practices of mining companies!
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #110 - on: 18.12.2007 at 03:27 [UT] »Quote from Gene Ray on 03.12.2007 at 20:17 [UT]:Hello allT

J is m my Prog B within a couple of minutes of arc at the present time.
J mF is already well within three degrees of completion. So for all practical purposes this three planet aspect is already in effect in

The T

my chart. This occurs in Jupiters sign so Jupiter disposits.
Further in my birth location natal chart this three planet conjunction
However in my relocation chart these three

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o my Prog Ascendant.

It is an intersting period and surely something significant should occur while it is in effect.
I have a sister who is ai (Sun in last degree of i) who is not in good health.
i

I am concerned that it might be read as death (Pluto) family (Moon) of a

I am also concerned because it occurs in the 5th house of children and I have a child.
On the positive side it could mean a fortunate (F) great change (J) brought about by the conjunction with the Prog B.

We shall see.
Gene Ray

Hello Gene,I hope all is well with your family and will continue to be.
My own progressed moon is currently at 0 j. The present F/J m also squares my natal F/O m which is at 0
g in my 1st house (and widely m natal J at 22 f).
This past Thurs., Dec. 13, I suddenly and unexpectedly lost my beloved kitty, likely due to an aggressive cancer.
While not a human person, he was certainly a beloved family member. And I wonder if his passing might bereflected by the current F/J transit. My fourth house has 16 i on the cusp, so Pluto has of course been
moving through there for some time.
(My solar return chart for this year also has Chiron conjuct the IC (Chiron is fairly prominent in my chart in the
7th house (at 6 a so also widely squaring the current transit to my prog. B).)
(edit to add: my kitty was not a i or j, but likely a b (spring-born as are so many kitties))
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Member« Reply #111 - on: 18.12.2007 at 15:48 [UT] »Quote from Neplightly on 18.12.2007 at 03:27 [UT]:
Quote from Gene Ray on 03.12.2007 at 20:17 [UT]:Hello allT

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J mF is already well within three degrees of completion. So for all practical purposes this three planet aspect is

The T

already in effect in my chart. This occurs in Jupiters sign so Jupiter disposits.
Further in my birth location natal chart this three planet conjunction
However in my relocation chart these three

p my Natal Ascendant.

o my Prog Ascendant.

It is an intersting period and surely something significant should occur while it is in effect.
I have a sister who is ai (Sun in last degree of i) who is not in good health.
i

I am concerned that it might be read as death (Pluto) family (Moon) of a
I am also concerned because it occurs in the 5th house of children and I have a child.
On the positive side it could mean a fortunate (F) great change (J) brought about by the conjunction with the Prog B.

We shall see.
Gene Ray

Hello Gene,I hope all is well with your family and will continue to be.
My own progressed moon is currently at 0
widelyj. The present F/J m also squares my natal F/O m which is at 0 g in my 1st house (andm natal J at 22 f).

This past Thurs., Dec. 13, I suddenly and unexpectedly lost my beloved kitty, likely due to an aggressive cancer. While not a humanperson, he was certainly a beloved family member. And I wonder if his passing might be reflected by the current
house has 16

F/J transit. My fourth

i on the cusp, so Pluto has of course been moving through there for some time.

(My solar return chart for this year also has Chiron conjuct the IC (Chiron is fairly prominent in my chart in the 7th house (at 6widely squaring the current transit to my prog.
(edit to add: my kitty was not aa so alsoB).)i or j, but likely a b (spring-born as are so many kitties))

Hello Neplightly
Pets play a vey important role in many peoples life. I often feed the neighborhood cats but do not have one of
my own. Sorry about your loss.
I just learned that a first cousin has leukemia. She is not doing very well. Her brother has had prostate cancer
for a while. Their mother (my aunt) died several years ago with breast cancer so their seems likely a genetic
component.
I place a lot of importance on the P Moon and for those of us who have it near your or my position we arepresently having Sun, Mercury, Jupiter & Pluto conjuncting our P Moon.
Interesting times.
Best wishes
Gene Ray
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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #112 - on: 18.12.2007 at 17:31 [UT] »Quote from drummergirl on 18.12.2007 at 02:13 [UT]:
Hi Michelle,
I wish it were the case that we had any protection in this at all but the mining laws in Canada are antiquated and completely in favour ofthe miners. They can explore on our land, which includes stripping, digging, drilling, etc. and they have no obligation to return the land to
its natural state. They do not even have to notify us that they are going to explore until 24 hours before they're scheduled to do it! If an
actual mine were to go in across the street from us, or on the property behind us, it is unlikely that we would receive so much as a penny
unless they wanted our land as well. Even if they buy us out, we do not want to leave our land. It's beautiful and we love it. This is reallyprecedent setting situation we and a number of other people are in. The health effects of uranium mining are well known and weeventually want to pursue legal action on the basis that a uranium mine near us will jeopardize our health. We still need to find that highpowered lawyer who's willing to take on our case (if we have one) for free!

Wowie, Drummergirl, I'm sure you have lots of people and the press on your side. Here's to hoping thatsomething good comes from this. Wishing you the best of luck.
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Member« Reply #113 - on: 18.12.2007 at 21:45 [UT] »Gene Ray,
Thank you for your thoughtful response.
I am sorry to hear that your cousin is struggling with such a serious disease. I hope she has good doctors to

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Gender:trust in and especially a good support system to help her at this difficult time..hopefully through to a cure andregained health. I hope too that her brother has the strength to battle his own disease and that despite its
presence he is enjoying good quality of life, and will continue to do so. And I am sorry for your loss of youraunt.
For the several years I have known about it, I have been very much aware of how the progressed moon'schanging of signs manifests (in my own chart especially), but have not paid much attention to its transits.
However, I think I will do so now.
Thank you very much for your kind words for my loss which was devastating for me. You are quite correct thatthe human-animal bond is known and experienced by many. For all of the heartbreak that these special ties canbring, it is not the pain of physical loss but the joy of sharing our lives with a dog, cat or other animal friendthat ultimately lives on in our hearts.
Bless you for caring for the kitties in your area. One day you may just be adopted by a special cat..kitties
frequently "choose" their people (this is how all of my kitties have come to me).
Regards,
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Member« Reply #114 - on: 19.12.2007 at 12:40 [UT] »with pluto and jupiter flanking the upcoming capricorn solar ingress, the american political season is revving up
nicely,,,with more spin than a three bank pool shot~!)
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Member« Reply #115 - on: 19.12.2007 at 19:58 [UT] »Bush has now signed the new energy bill which mandates much higher fuel efficiency in cars and a massive
increase in biofuels with added incentives for second generation or non-food feedstocks.
Any move to lessen america's dependency on imported oil has got to be a good thing for the world as a wholeimho

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Re: Upcoming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction« Reply #116 - on: 19.12.2007 at 20:15 [UT] »Viv
To little to late IMO.This was suppose to be the plan 3yr. ago and it took this long because he and his croonies
wanted to make $$ off the war.

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Ex Member« Reply #117 - on: 19.12.2007 at 23:09 [UT] »Well I did what I said I was going to do and cleaned out my closet(hidden place=Scorpio/4th) at the time of
the conjunction and found 2 bucks ..lol(woohoo)! It was like the universe was showing me how astrology
works. It was the same feeling I used to get when I would loose a tooth and wait for the toothfairy to drop aquarter under the pillow..haha.
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