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Friesiangal
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« on: 11.06.2014 at 11:13 [UT+1] »Hi,
Something I am noticing more and more is the number of natal horoscope charts that have a large stellium ofplanets in a sign.

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Gender:A normal stellium is considered to be with 3 planets conjunct (e.g. the Cap. generation with G-O-I), yetthere are charts with 5 or more planets in signs, discounting angle importance of reference.
I'd so like to read and understand how those with the the large stellium (more than 3 planets) in a sign differ inoutlook and, especially, cope with such a magnitude of energy in one place.
Anyone?

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GeminiMember

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« Reply #1 - on: 11.06.2014 at 12:24 [UT+1] »Off topic, but sucks for them when Pluto or Neptune or Saturn make harsh aspects, one after another!!!

Sucks for everyone around them when they lose their rocker during Uranus transits too!!!
I'll be interested to read this.

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« Reply #2 - on: 11.06.2014 at 15:02 [UT+1] »Quote from Gemini on 11.06.2014 at 12:24 [UT+1]:
Off topic, but sucks for them when Pluto or Neptune or Saturn make harsh aspects, one after another!!! Sucks for everyone aroundthem when they lose their rocker during Uranus transits too!!!
I'll be interested to read this.

Shhh, you're rocking the boat of my stellium going through a O n transit
Mine would be either 4 or 5 planets, depending on whether one would consider a 6' conjunction between a fA
at the end of 10th and gD in 11th to be part of it. My own perspective from my life is that my A isabsolutely affected by J and vice versa.

How do I cope with all the 11th g energy? By mentally telling my mind, "Just fucking stop..." many, many
dozens of times a day. It's more like being neurotic about my neuroses than just simply suffering fromneurosis. T J is squaring my B in the stellium, too...
I'm not really sure what further feedback I could give. Having A, G, and my nodal axis in intercepted signs
really, really fucks with the perceptual influence other placements have on them. I am very unlike others withan 11th house stellium, but then again my 11th and 12th cusps are also duplicated in g...
If any specific questions pop up, please ask, I'm very much an open book. I could flip to a random page anddescribe the life outlook played out there, but if I do that then I'll start wondering if I'm not going into detailenough and then realize I've spent two hours preparing a perfectly precise set of paragraphs that surely would
be of no interest to anyone and trash the potential post and walk away from my PC, laughing at myself forspending so much time ultimately writing just to myself ado with what took but a few seconds of thought.
Am I helping others or helping myself? <- that's a question that plagues every interaction I enter into withother people.
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« Reply #3 - on: 11.06.2014 at 15:58 [UT+1] »Quote from rorrim on 11.06.2014 at 15:02 [UT+1]:.
Am I helping others or helping myself? <- that's a question that plagues every interaction I enter into with other people.

You sound very interesting to me. So for my own happiness, please stop murdering your posts.

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Cor Leonis
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« Reply #4 - on: 11.06.2014 at 18:45 [UT+1] »Quote:
mentally telling my mind, "Just fucking stop..." many, many dozens of times a day. It's more like being neurotic about my neuroses thanjust simply suffering from neurosis.

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classic! just fucking classic! welcome aboard, mate!

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Quote from Gemini on 11.06.2014 at 12:24 [UT+1]:
Off topic, but sucks for them when Pluto or Neptune or Saturn make harsh aspects, one after another!!! Sucks foreveryone around them when they lose their rocker during Uranus transits too!!!
I'll be interested to read this.

Shhh, you're rocking the boat of my stellium going through a

O n transit
fA

Mine would be either 4 or 5 planets, depending on whether one would consider a 6' conjunction between aat the end of 10th andin 11th to be part of it. My own perspective from my life is that myis absolutely affected by
and vice versa.

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How do I cope with all the 11th
energy? By mentally telling my mind, "Just fucking stop..." many, many dozens of times a day. It's
more like being neurotic about my neuroses than just simply suffering from neurosis. T
is squaring myin the stellium, too...

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A G

I'm not really sure what further feedback I could give. Having,, and my nodal axis in intercepted signs really, really fucks with theperceptual influence other placements have on them. I am very unlike others with an 11th house stellium, but then again my 11th and12th cusps are also duplicated in...

g

If any specific questions pop up, please ask, I'm very much an open book. I could flip to a random page and describe the life outlook
played out there, but if I do that then I'll start wondering if I'm not going into detail enough and then realize I've spent two hours
preparing a perfectly precise set of paragraphs that surely would be of no interest to anyone and trash the potential post and walk awayfrom my PC, laughing at myself for spending so much time ultimately writing just to myself ado with what took but a few seconds ofthought.
Am I helping others or helping myself? <- that's a question that plagues every interaction I enter into with other people.

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Gayle 61

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« Reply #5 - on: 11.06.2014 at 23:27 [UT+1] »morning freis
my 2 eldest g sons have the cappy stellium
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one in the 4 th and has been going thru hell with his parents cajoaling over the last few yrs, his home relosing jobs and g/f,s,
all pluto -beyond his control.!!
fortuantley he has a saggie moon and sun so that mutable helps and hehas cardinal angles so just ploughs
ahead
his Jupiter planet square plutos natally .
also a tight mars trine Saturn on earth , helpful for sorting and feet on the ground a bit!!
his brother has sextiles to pluto from his stellium of cappy and he seems to have the midas touch , great
mathmetician and good-tight with money ( an aries with persuasiveness to get the g/f to pay or parents )on the other side his cappy stel square his aries planets....but sextile mars and jup in Gemini so again he finds
his way out of diffilcities.
he has fixed angles and is hard to budge, hates loosing at games, very aries competitive.
hope this is not too confusing.

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« Reply #6 - on: 11.06.2014 at 23:40 [UT+1] »I have 4 planets in Aquarius (Sun - Moon- Mercury - Mars) in the 4th house... but I don't identify myself withthem at all ! Go figure !

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Gayle 61

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« Reply #7 - on: 11.06.2014 at 23:51 [UT+1] »welcome newbie
4 in aqua..detachment !!
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4 in the 4 th quite the opposite!!
can u attach your chart is u want to ?

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Waybread
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« Reply #8 - on: 12.06.2014 at 07:06 [UT+1] »Friesiangal, I don't have a mega stellium, but one thing that occurs to me about these charts is that a lot of thehouse cusp rulers (lords) are going to be part of the stellium, thus strengthening its effect.
I also agree with the others that a transit that hits on one member of a stellium or its aspecting planet/s isgoing to set off a lot of the chart. Because even if the stellium planets are not all conjunct, we get a lot ofintermediate sensitive points through their midpoints.
I think of such people as "majoring in Scorpio" or "majoring in the 7th house."

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Gender:Sometimes also, the stellium planets are involved in one of C. E. O. Carter's patterns: perhaps a "bundle" or anarrow "bucket" formation (which some call a "funnel.") These give a person a huge amount of focus, unlike
the "splash" chart of the jack-of-all-trades.

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Lindac7

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« Reply #9 - on: 12.06.2014 at 08:08 [UT+1] »How about this as a perfect example?
I've posted it here numerous times, but here goes again.
Mercury and Jupiter are exactly conjunct (to the minute), with Mars 1 degree away, and the Sun 7 degrees
away. They are all within 1 degree of each other in latitude and declination, also (except for the Sun which is 2
degrees away in latitude and 4 degrees in declination).
Basically, I 'live' in my 12th house. I prefer to be alone than to be subjected to the usual, standard demands,
and general BS that lots of people try to impose upon me.
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Linda

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andrebEx Member

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« Reply #10 - on: 12.06.2014 at 12:59 [UT+1] »Gayle 61
here's my chart 4 planets in the 4th house in Aquarius.
Having a family (wife, kids) is NOT important to me. I still have parents and a brother. I place more importanceto friends and particularly to professional achievements related to arts which is what I like to do.
Never understood what 4 planets in that house meant, it would made sense to me if I had a stellium on the10th house of career or on the 5th house of arts of 6 th of work, not on the 4th house !

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midnight sun

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« Reply #11 - on: 12.06.2014 at 13:23 [UT+1] »With large stelliums I see it exactly as focusing your energy on very specific areas. There is something you needto learn or utilize and you're not allowed to stray too much away from what you have to do, like walking anarrow path. It can be challenging because you sometimes feel as if you do not have a choice.
At least, that's how I feel about mine.
I have 4 k planets in the 2nd house (A, C, D and F), all within 9 degrees of each other and all q O. I likethe k energy.
It gets tough when a challenging transit comes along, though, like the t G in h right now, because it hits
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everything! These 4 planets are lords of 8 or even 9 (if we use the traditional rulers) of the houses in my chart.
So hard transits (especially o s and ns) are very transformational and usually mark the ending of a period.

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« Reply #12 - on: 13.06.2014 at 00:47 [UT+1] »Lindac7, you say your stellium is a perfect example (of 12th house and/or Libran experiences/behavior) and yet
the preference to be alone is easily attributed to Sun septile Sat and reading/learning to your Moon's amazing
triple tri-decile to Mars/Merc/Jup.

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Gender:Andreb, you indicate your 4th house stellium is not a perfect example and, again, I would first attribute yourmentioned behavior/experiences to Sun 45 Ven (most of my familiars with this aspect marry late or never)triangulated by Mars (via 5 min and a 36 min orbed semi-octile aspects), all serving as the top/head of anasymetrical "red" Kite formed by Pluto's 'red" quadrangulation (so Pluto to Sun is the spine and Mars to Ven is
the crossbrace); all interpretable as vulnerability to domination in the affairs indicated by the planets and theself-survival technique of staying away from commitment (no judgment intended from me certainly).
So just to say, the more aspectual data one has available, the less reliant on sign and house analogies one may
become.

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« Reply #13 - on: 13.06.2014 at 09:08 [UT+1] »Quote from andreb on 12.06.2014 at 12:59 [UT+1]:[b]
here's my chart 4 planets in the 4th house in Aquarius.
Having a family (wife, kids) is NOT important to me. I still have parents and a brother. I place more importance to friends and particularly
to professional achievements related to arts which is what I like to do.
Never understood what 4 planets in that house meant, it would made sense to me if I had a stellium on the 10th house of career or on the
5th house of arts of 6 th of work, not on the 4th house !

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Gender:I have a 4 planet (ACDE) stellium in the 4th house too, C in c and the other 3 in d. c is the houseruler. Although I do have kids, having a family wasn't a major goal in my life either. I think the 4th house has
been inaccurately linked with "domesticity" and the idea of desiring a family of your own in adulthood when it's
more about origins, early childhood, natal family, and history. It's at the bottom of the chart, and some say it's
the most innermost point, the most yin, the deepest part of our selves, and where we come from. The firsthouse is our physical body, but the fourth is who we "are". A fourth house emphasis is not other directed, it's
self focused. I'd be surprised to see someone with a 7th H stellium say that partnership is irrelevant to them
(unless there were hard aspects to those planets especially from GOJ) but someone with a 4th housestellium can be quite content without a partner.
With k ruling your 4th and those personal planets in k, your interactions with others, with friends and ingroups, is a core part of your identity, as is the k ideal of personal freedom.

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Friesiangal
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« Reply #14 - on: 13.06.2014 at 15:46 [UT+1] »Hi,
Thanks for the replies so far. Where are the 5+ers.
I was hoping there might be several with the same sign association, so they could comment (through eachother) how the strong sign influence (rather than house) affects their approach to life.
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Gender:I liked Midnight Sun's comment :Quote:
With large stelliums I see it exactly as focusing your energy ........ There is something you need to learn or utilize and you're notallowed to stray too much away from what you have to do, like walking a narrow path.

So, e.g. would Midnight Sun and Andreb's k stellium show a similarity in how they use the Aquarian energy?
Waybread's comment:

Quote:
one thing that occurs to me about these charts is that a lot of the house cusp rulers (lords) are going to be part of the stellium, thus
strengthening its effect.

is also of importance. Seems the house realm would 'dictate' life.
The largest stellium I have ever noted is a 6 planet stellium in Taurus, plus the calculated point BML.
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« Reply #15 - on: 13.06.2014 at 16:24 [UT+1] »Quote from Lindac7 on 12.06.2014 at 08:08 [UT+1]:
I prefer to be alone than to be subjected to the usual, standard demands, and general BS that lots of people try to impose upon me....I
spend a lot of time reading, learning, researching - it's what I like, in a nice calm, peaceful and pleasant (Libran) environment.

Linda, I'm Taurus (Leo moon, Pisces ascendant) and what you wrote describes me exactly. I didn't have a carfor two years until yesterday and between November and April I didn't once get past my mailbox. And I don't
talk on the phone. And it didn't bother me much, either.
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« Reply #16 - on: 13.06.2014 at 17:36 [UT+1] »Quote from Friesiangal on 13.06.2014 at 15:46 [UT+1]:
Where are the 5+ers.

I have a stellium of planets in g. (five planets). I identify more with g than I do my lonely A in f. I've
been diagnosed with dependent personality disorder before. Very hard to strike out on my own. When I try, I
end up butting heads with people who inter-depend on me.
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« Reply #17 - on: 13.06.2014 at 18:02 [UT+1] »I have CFG and J in g but I wouldn't say I feel so much energy there. I mostly feel my AB in h. All
planets are in my 6th (also O in h) so for me the concentration of energy is more obvious in the house than
the signs. I feel I have more f qualities than g. Although I also do have a fE.
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andrebEx Member

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« Reply #18 - on: 13.06.2014 at 18:10 [UT+1] »Not only I don't recognise myself with having a stellium in the 4th house (would make more sense to me if thechart was upside down!) I also don't feel that much a k myself !
Some energies that I identify more are definitely e and l and h and g... all that is related to arts and showbusiness, not the typical lab scientist geek that wants to be part of a group k !
Some relatives of mine are k and they were also part of a group, be it skaters, surfers, vegans whatever... I
never seemed to fit in a group! LOL !
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Gayle 61

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« Reply #19 - on: 13.06.2014 at 19:32 [UT+1] »andrebwife and kids not important to me...........spoken like true aquarian planets in the 4 th and I can see with
Saturn in the 10 th and in trine how your emphasis is on career.
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any chance of you looking up your natal oppositions as in " not belonging to any groups ,"ie,saturn oppo moon and mercury
pluto oppo venus
Uranus in first hs quincunx venus.
now there,s some homework for ya, LOL.

u seem on the right track re the arts with Neptune in 2nd of you r money and 5 th creativeness pisces on thecusp
and that grand trine has recently be activated............nice!!
u have one more hit of Saturn oppo Jupiter in oct to go.
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andrebEx Member

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« Reply #20 - on: 13.06.2014 at 22:50 [UT+1] »Hi Gayle..
What does a transit from GnF means ? Because I don't know how it impacts my life. The only thing that has
happened to me these last months was to work like crazy person in solo and in projects with other people
involving arts to make something profitable and with get public recognition.
Not sure what those natal G oppositions meant to be honest apart from maybe GnB which is a good-bad
relationship with my mother.
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Gayle 61

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« Reply #21 - on: 14.06.2014 at 01:20 [UT+1] »honestly andreb,
sometimes it,s hard to tell just how far along in astrology a member can be so can I suggest you get a one
time reading on astro.com or ??? of your natal chart.
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there are heaps ( apparently ) of sites on the net to start good learning from and print out what suits yoit
better still, a few good books will suffice for ages as your interest seems high.
from one who learnt and struggled for yrs to get astro " under my belt"
you,ll have times when u think......oh good, got it, then an " uh oh that doesn't make sense ",and maybe a"what the hell", then lots of , " of course that makes sense ".
and if you are honest, lots of , oh dear, yes that is me and I need to do something about it.
now, on stelliums, libra asc daughter has 5 virgo planets in the 12 th , she has overcome her painful shyness
and isolation by being an excellent sort after nurse albeit very co dependent to an alcoholic in-law crew, sadly
following in her mothers old ways.
I live in hope of awareness for her.

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Atmosphericshadows« Reply #22 - on: 14.06.2014 at 01:52 [UT+1] »MemberQuote from Friesiangal on 11.06.2014 at 11:13 [UT+1]:
Hi,
Something I am noticing more and more is the number of natal horoscope charts that have a large stellium of planets in a sign.
A normal stellium is considered to be with 3 planets conjunct (e.g. the Cap. generation with

G-O-I), yet there are charts with 5 ormore planets in signs, discounting angle importance of reference.
I'd so like to read and understand how those with the the large stellium (more than 3 planets) in a sign differ in outlook and, especially,

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cope with such a magnitude of energy in one place.
Anyone?

I'm part of the Capricorn generation, my stellium includes the moon in capricorn. To be honest I like having allthat earth. I have scorpio rising so the earth really keeps me stable and it complements my pluto and mytaurus sun. I've been told I have a big personality and a big (but subtle) presence which I would also attribute
the Capricorn influence.
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Gayle 61

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« Reply #23 - on: 14.06.2014 at 02:06 [UT+1] »andreb
I meant to write that your south node is conjunct chiron, maybe contributing to some of your sorrow-unfulling
dreams-wishes.
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« Reply #24 - on: 14.06.2014 at 11:19 [UT+1] »I have a 4 planet stellium in f in my 9th/10th houses, planets FBJO as you can see in my chart as posted.
stelliums run in my family with my eldest daughter having a 4 planet h stellium in her 1st/2nd house, myyoungest has a 4 planet stellium in the 4th/5th in k involving IBOF plus my middle two have the

GOIj stellium in hard aspect to personal planets.
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Gender:I am used to the focus and drive in one direction these stelliums can bring and find it tends to reveal very
individual and unique characters who follow their own path in life, there is not much can be done to divert themoff their path and I speak for myself here too. with my f stellium with BmJ at its heart, I was obssessed withbeing the perfect mother in my 20's. Having my last baby born, and husband die during my G return, Ichanged my focus in my 30's to higher education gaining a degree and MA (reflecting the 9th house) and also
working with local musicians became my passion ( MC and 10th). Now in my 40's my obssession is very virgoan
in trying to heal my sick body.
I do have a friend with 5 planets in i and another in j making it possibly a 6 planet stellium all m her i asc
but have not got permission to post her chart. she is lovely, very energetic, enthusiastic, great sense of
humour, a real character and she goes for what she wants in life, runs at them full pelt would say. I met her
through my work with musicians and she was obssessed with music, and she married a musician a few years
ago.
hope some of that is helpful info.

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« Reply #25 - on: 14.06.2014 at 14:19 [UT+1] »Hi,
any thoughts about this chart? All planets in aqua except H,I,J...
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« Reply #26 - on: 14.06.2014 at 20:10 [UT+1] »Quote from Gayle 61 on 14.06.2014 at 01:20 [UT+1]:
honestly andreb,
sometimes it,s hard to tell just how far along in astrology a member can be so can I suggest you get a one time reading on astro.com or??? of your natal chart.
there are heaps ( apparently ) of sites on the net to start good learning from and print out what suits yoit
better still, a few good books will suffice for ages as your interest seems high.

Your reply reads like, "Oh, you don't understand what I just took the time to tell you? Oh, well you ought toleave and not come back until you can understand."And look who isn't here anymore...
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« Reply #27 - on: 14.06.2014 at 22:38 [UT+1] »Quote from Helene on 14.06.2014 at 14:19 [UT+1]:
Hi,
any thoughts about this chart? All planets in aqua except

H,I,J...

I think that chart is from 1962, around the time the supposed "anti-Christ" or a great world leader was to beborn. Jeanne Dixon is the one who predicted someone like this would be born...with an Aquarius stellium.
----------------------------Yes, this chart is Feb. 5/6, 1962.
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« Reply #28 - on: 14.06.2014 at 22:44 [UT+1] »The immoveable bf who is a permanent fixture in my life no matter how hard I try to run away..... BTW,
home/land/family are VERY important to him though he has nothing in 4th house. I usually post his chart withtrue node, which is 0 g.
Krista's husband has a similar stellium. Maybe she will post.
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« Reply #29 - on: 14.06.2014 at 22:57 [UT+1] »Lots of activity in my Ninth and Tenth Houses. JmBC#O. With a Scorpio Ascendant, Pluto is very powerful,but, mercifully, I have Fm my Ascendant, so he tempers J to a degree. I hope that's the case, anyway!

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Gayle 61
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« Reply #30 - on: 15.06.2014 at 00:58 [UT+1] »matt
awwww ,sorry, but I am back and replying one time only to you.
back because some of us have to sleep occasionally eh?
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so welcome another newbie who also seems to have the saggie foot in mouth sometimes and capable ofsarcasm.
all sorts of ppl contribute to this forum including those who are helpful, astro clever, not so astro clever ,learners , desperate , greedy , try to suck u dry, are lazy, do their best at what ever level they are at ,and so thelist goes on.
occassionally one has to use their intuition as to who to try and help and we don't always get it right , but thatjust life .
some can,t afford to sit here all day either.
quote....
u can help some of the ppl some of the time but not all the ppl all the time.
live and let live.
might it be that you are one who stands up " for the little fella" ?, , I,d like to think so ........maybe.
as arnie said.
" make my day.......ah,ll be back ".
ps, as newbie with 12 ? posts, id be , bleep bleep bleep.
as I stated , a one time only connection with you.
have a great day. G

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« Reply #31 - on: 15.06.2014 at 01:09 [UT+1] »Helen,
first glance , oh I thought ,a life crusader, a suffragette.
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all those aqua in the 9 th and cancer asc, a lawyer for the underdog I thought.
then I noticed the south node amid those 9 th planets and square to Neptune.
natal chiron conj moon on MC .............so much suffering.
I see T Neptune here at the moment trine your asc,time for healing and resolving.

north node in 3 rd, learning how to get on with the world?
how are you farring with T Saturn squaring all that aqua, over the last 2 yrs ? you have been in a very tightcorner haven,t you.?
if this is your chart, I hope you stay on here.

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Gayle 61
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« Reply #32 - on: 15.06.2014 at 01:18 [UT+1] »john mike ( one g,s sons names )think ive said before of your chart,
if I needed a detective and or lawyer, u,d be top of my list LOL.
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gets to the nitty gritty and doesn't miss a beat to put it mildly.
own your own business or CEO of one ???
Jupiter in 1st , a calming effect ?? no way buster !!
power personified.
take it from one who has leo des and scorp MC but not those conj,s .
they,d be far too much for me to cope with.
lucky your moon isn,t tight square Neptune.
have a good day too, smile.

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« Reply #33 - on: 15.06.2014 at 08:15 [UT+1] »Gayle 61, it's not my chart, it's my sister's chart. Looking at her chart, I always wondered why she leads suchan unspectacular life. Working as an office manager, never married (but most of her time in long-term
relationships with much older men), no children, but a close circle of friends. She has a strong (unhealthy)
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bond with our mother who suffers from NPD. She spends much money to fulfil our mother's wishes. But mysister is also very self-confident and controlling. And she hates travelling, never goes on holidays.....
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« Reply #34 - on: 15.06.2014 at 08:46 [UT+1] »Hi Everyone,Thanks again for all the replies.
This is a very busy weekend AND HOLLAND TOOK ITS REVENGE AND BEAT SLAUGHTERED THE W.C. 2010

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I'll respond with questions when more time is on hand.

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« Reply #35 - on: 15.06.2014 at 09:03 [UT+1] »<<take it from one who has leo des and scorp MC but not those conj,s .
they,d be far too much for me to cope with. >>Gayle, I think you did comment on my chart once before, but you are so delightful and great fun and I reallyenjoy your posts. Funny you should mention owning my own business, because I am unemployed and seriously
thinking of being my own boss. What kind of business? I have NO idea
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You're right - I am very no nonsense and get right to the nitty gritty. As for my Fm, I think it makes me very
optimistic and cheerful. I REALLY am a very nice person!
I didn't quite understand your comment that I culled. If you would clarify, I would love to understand what you
mean. Thanks for making me smile. This retrograde has been brutal thus far and you ACTUALLY made mesmile. Cheers!
So glad one of your sons is John or Mike.

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« Reply #36 - on: 15.06.2014 at 12:18 [UT+1] »Scorpio Stellium

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« Reply #37 - on: 16.06.2014 at 08:49 [UT+1] »Quote from Krewster on 13.06.2014 at 00:47 [UT+1]:
Lindac7, you say your stellium is a perfect example (of 12th house and/or Libran experiences/behavior) and yet the preference to bealone is easily attributed to Sun septile Sat and reading/learning to your Moon's amazing triple tri-decile to Mars/Merc/Jup.
. . .
So just to say, the more aspectual data one has available, the less reliant on sign and house analogies one may become.

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Actually, what I said was that my stellium was a perfect example of a large stellium in a sign. That was all I
meant by my beginning question, no more and no less. I then went on to explain how that stellium plays out

Gender:for me.
As has been mentioned in these forums numerous times, the same conclusions can usually be drawn from morethan one aspect in a chart, and typically one can find 3 different aspects forming that same conclusion. In thecase of my chart, therefore, both of our conclusions are correct at the same time. Neither is more correct thanthe other, and I am certainly not reliant solely on sign and house analogies for my interpretation, though I canunderstand why you might have jumped to that conclusion. I simply was short on time and gave a quickanswer instead of taking the time to spell everything out in 'long hand'.
I might add, also, that the topic of this thread is large stelliums in signs and how those manifest.
With Mercury retrograde right now, I'm not surprised that you took my meaning to be different than I
intended, and then were quick to criticize instead of simply pointing out that both placements indicate thesame thing.
Mars is also currently conjunct my natal Mars, Mercury and Jupiter, so I'm not very inclined to simply sit backand take such criticism; however, pointing out what is fair and correct is true to my Libra-Sagittarius SunSaturn septile nature.
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« Reply #38 - on: 16.06.2014 at 10:51 [UT+1] »hi john mike
grandsons, not sons although I did name the 3 grandsons even though im allergic to the name john his middle

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name ) saggie sun and moon, a great bush hunter, built like a brick proverbial and all 3 are well over 6 foot.
they pat gran on the head to p...s her off.
ok. I guess u will find out what sort of business when T Uranus hits your leo planets next yr ( from memory ,you r chart up there was a bit vague -lacking ), just about the time T saturn goes over your ascendent......great
timing and hopefully the economy MIGHT start to pick up then, albeit very slowly.
what does your prog,s say or SA or ???
so your a nice polite fellow with sun conj venus..ok.
pluto conj venus is a bit full on I think as is ur-moon merc, so u have bright ideas and the gift of the gab ???
good for school teacher or lecturer ? in 9 th.
even a pilot ?
I said powerful cos I know how full on I can be with just sun conj mars and moon conj ur, let alone your extras
did I say full on or diabolical LOL.
culled................hell, the only time I heard that word was on farm, culling bulls etc.
I must master how to do those yellow expressional faces one day, prob so puter easy that its embarrassing .
it might keep me out of trouble.
ah, shucks, could someone tell me pls.

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« Reply #39 - on: 17.06.2014 at 09:05 [UT+1] »Hi again,
Discounting the now ex-member charts, I get, characterwise:

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Gender:Calla : Cc + ADE d.
Which has the stronger effect? Mind on or over feelings; feelings over mind?
Angi:
F to BJO f
Johnmike59 JDA E
fOnly 1 common denominator: Jf generation, yet to a luminary.
Who would have the more difficulty with the 'stickler' to f convention?
LindaCECFA g in 12th house,
Lysistrate CFGJ g in 6th house,
I wonder how CF would regard that which is in the opposing house to the other.
Perhaps WWVD with 5 planets in g could act as refereee???
Atmos.shad. is a loner to date with BGOIr j.
Is the cement a fixture that is hardening or crumbling?
Midnight Sun
Helene's sis

ACDF kCGACDFB 7 planets k.

Catalina: my 6 signer b was 2 weeks younger than yours. You used the exact word..... 'immoveable'.

Any chance of getting the same signers comparing how their planetary systems work(ed) through character?
Thanks for the input, everyone.
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« Reply #40 - on: 17.06.2014 at 09:46 [UT+1] »Friesiangal, with all due respect, it's JmBCO in my Ninth House, which is ruled bye. Perhaps that will shedsome light in answer to you, but I do see what you mean about J and its effect on the Tenth House.
I was so thrilled for Holland's victory, as well. Congratulations and WELL DONE!!

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« Reply #41 - on: 17.06.2014 at 09:53 [UT+1] »Yesterday I enjoyed the concert of the Rolling Stones in Vienna - so I'd like to add the chart ofSir Mick Jagger

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ACFJKN in e

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Friesiangal
Member« Reply #42 - on: 17.06.2014 at 10:09 [UT+1] »[quote]Quote from johnmike59 on 17.06.2014 at 09:46 [UT+1]:
Friesiangal, with all due respect, it's

JmBCO in my Ninth House, which is ruled bye. Perhaps that will shed some light in answer to
J and its effect on the Tenth House

you, but I do see what you mean about.
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more influential.
Do you feel that to be so?
Quote:I was so thrilled for Holland's victory, as well. Congratulations and WELL DONE!!

To say that you can't come from either Australia or Chile.
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« Reply #43 - on: 17.06.2014 at 10:17 [UT+1] »Quote from Helene on 17.06.2014 at 09:53 [UT+1]:
Yesterday I enjoyed the concert of the Rolling Stones in Vienna - so I'd like to add the chart of

CFJKN in e

Sir Mick Jagger #Sun

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Would seem to fit, eh?

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« Reply #44 - on: 17.06.2014 at 10:21 [UT+1] »<<hi john mike
grandsons, not sons although I did name the 3 grandsons even though im allergic to the name john his middle
name ) saggie sun and moon, a great bush hunter, built like a brick proverbial and all 3 are well over 6 foot.
they pat gran on the head to p...s her off.

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Gender:ok. I guess u will find out what sort of business when T Uranus hits your leo planets next yr ( from memory ,you r chart up there was a bit vague -lacking ), just about the time T saturn goes over your ascendent......great
timing and hopefully the economy MIGHT start to pick up then, albeit very slowly.
what does your prog,s say or SA or ???
so your a nice polite fellow with sun conj venus..ok.
pluto conj venus is a bit full on I think as is ur-moon merc, so u have bright ideas and the gift of the gab ???
good for school teacher or lecturer ? in 9 th. >>even a pilot ?
I said powerful cos I know how full on I can be with just sun conj mars and moon conj ur, let alone your extras
did I say full on or diabolical LOL.
culled................hell, the only time I heard that word was on farm, culling bulls etc.
I must master how to do those yellow expressional faces one day, prob so puter easy that its embarrassing .
it might keep me out of trouble.
ah, shucks, could someone tell me pls.>>
Gayle, you had me, as you do inevitably, roaring with laughter, but, my dear, you DO know your astrology.
Yes, a very nice fellow with Fm my h Ascendant. I tell you NO lie.
I have yet to look at my progressed chart, but will get around to it. I just had to count "39" days from DOB HA!
I don't know about bright ideas. Perhaps? But those who know me would DEFINITELY say I have I have "thegift of gab" and that would be putting it very politely.
I am sure your grandsons are very nice, fine young men, but patting their grandmother on the head, I'm sure,sets your teeth on edge. I think you have the gumption to tell them, nicely and calmly, to knock it off.
OK, you want to use the icons? NO PROBLEM! A 4 year old can do this. First of all, though it should be very
obvious, hover over the icon you'd like to use with your mouse and you'll see what the icon represents - forexample, going from left to right, the first is "Smiley," the second is "Wink" and the third is "Cheesy"- you will
actually see those words. Click on to the icon and you'll see something like this,Now when I'm done withmy text, you'll see that lovely smile.
and a wink. That's all there is to it - easy, peasy. I would think you
know the glyphs and the symbols for the planets - if not, from left to right, Sun, Moon, CDE and so on,
followed by the symbols for the aspects mpp and your glyphs - Aries, Taurus, Gemini, defghijkl. As
for the symbols on the very top, just hover your mouse over it, and you'll see the actual word it represents.
Once you POST, you can't make any changes unless you hit the MODIFY button, which will bring you back toyour original text. Then, you can make as many changes as you like.
You know, at core, astrology always OUTS and wins the day. How very Virgo of me to, happily and gladly, help
you. I always shake my head and, often, am tempted to re-read my birth certificate or call the Hall of Records
regarding my birthday, but, NO, a five-star, triple-distilled, dyed-in-the-wool Virgo, with my Mercury in Leo. I'msure I drive kith and kin to distraction, but they tell me all of the time how greatly I am loved by them and I
believe them!
You've heard about how to get to Carneige Hall? Well, there's your assignment and, in advance, you get an A
plus. Good luck! You're a darling woman, keep posting, PLEASE, for I do enjoy them very much and take care.
Thanks for all of your very astute insights - you were and are a GREAT help.
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« Reply #45 - on: 17.06.2014 at 10:25 [UT+1] »Quote from Friesiangal on 17.06.2014 at 09:05 [UT+1]:
Hi again,
Discounting the now ex-member charts, I get, characterwise:
Calla :

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Gender:Cc + ADE d.

Which has the stronger effect? Mind on or over feelings; feelings over mind?

Angi: F to BJO f
Johnmike59 JDA E f
Only 1 common denominator: Jf generation, yet to a luminary.
Who would have the more difficulty with the 'stickler' to f convention?

ECFA g in 12th house,
CFGJ g in 6th house,
I wonder how CF would regard that which is in the opposing house to the other.
Perhaps WWVD with 5 planets in g could act as refereee???
LindaC

Lysistrate

Atmos.shad. is a loner to date with

BGOIr j.

Is the cement a fixture that is hardening or crumbling?

ACDF kCGACDFB 7 planets k.

Midnight Sun
Helene's sis

Catalina: my 6 signerb was 2 weeks younger than yours. You used the exact word..... 'immoveable'.

Any chance of gethttp://forum.astro.com/im/sym/s_me.18.gifting the same signers comparing how their planetary systems
work(ed) through character?
Thanks for the input, everyone.

I noted the same 9th house is involved in both charts, and so same asc and mc, with a J ruled asc and J
close to the mc in both charts so J is the key factor that connects the two charts I would say, suggesting
powerful characters. otherwise there are many differences between the charts.
I tend to defy many conventions, including f ones and with ACk and O in the 10th nEl this does not
surprise me. CO are in mutual reception in my chart and I do find it is with information that I am a stickler
for details which is a f convention and so yes some do show through, but not as many as you would think

B rules my 9th house and being closely mJ I had always identified more with hB than fB but in myobssession to be the 'perfect mother' in my 20's I can see the f convention for perfection and the ensuing
guilt it produces when it does not work out that way, in much evidence. Higher education helped meunderstand myself and liberate myself from f convention bringing the wider world into focus. maybe f did
not like that as health issues have brought me back to focusing upon healing a very f task. I have beenreluctant but maybe I need to embrace f convention more, thank you
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« Reply #46 - on: 17.06.2014 at 10:59 [UT+1] »Angi, what a marvelous post and something astrologers have told me for years. J is the ruler of our respective
charts and the role that it plays in those two houses does, indeed, make it very powerful. However, as I might
have mentioned earlier, I have also been told that because Fm my h Ascendant, he has nearly as muchgravitas as J.
Friesiangal, as always, you raise such interesting questions. But, in the situation, it's very difficult for me to say.
That I am an Earth sign is without question - practical, pragmatic, very hard working and, as a Virgo, if it needs
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Gender:to be done, I WILL make sure it is done with great dispatch, efficiency and CORRECTLY. However, like Angi, I
don't get lost in f details. I CAN see the forest for the trees and I'm grateful for that. I DO have that Virgo
reserve, when I first meet people (coupled with my h Rising), I shudder to think about first impressions.
But there is MUCH, MUCH Leo in my character - I am very loyal (as is Virgo) to friends and family, I have agreat sense of humor and a kind heart (my Virgo modesty has me) I am VERY dramatic when I speak (andwith Mercury in Leo and ruling Virgo, I have an excellent command of the language). If I start to become
boastful or, in conversation, make XYZ topic about ME, my Virgo sun and planets temper that. I suppose, inthe end, I am very definitely a composite of the two signs, and the overall ruler ship of J does make for a
STRONG personality, incorporating the best and the worst aspects of e and f.
I don't know if that helps, Friesiangal, but there really IS no easy answer. But, as I always say, DING, DING there's one for astrology, for, inevitably, it will ALWAYS out in some manifestation.
As for the "football" tournament, I am an American! Thanks for a terrific thread - enjoyable and interesting in
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« Reply #47 - on: 17.06.2014 at 13:12 [UT+1] »Quote from Friesiangal on 17.06.2014 at 09:05 [UT+1]:
Hi again,
Discounting the now ex-member charts, I get, characterwise:. . .

ECFA g in 12th house,
CFGJ g in 6th house,
I wonder how CF would regard that which is in the opposing house to the other.
Perhaps WWVD with 5 planets in g could act as refereee???
LindaC

Lysistrate. . .
Any chance of getting the same signers comparing how their planetary systems work(ed) through character?

Posts: 2029
Gender:Thanks for the input, everyone.

Friesiangal,
Please forgive my ignorance, but what does WWVD stand for? All I can come up with is 'What Would
Voldemort Do?'
Something tells me that's not right.
Linda
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« Reply #48 - on: 17.06.2014 at 22:40 [UT+1] »Quote:
Quote from Lindac7 on 17.06.2014 at 13:12 [UT+1]:

ECFA g in 12th house,
CFGJ g in 6th house,
I wonder how CF would regard that which is in the opposing house to the other.
Perhaps WWVD with 5 planets in g could act as refereee???
[quote author=Friesiangal LindaC
Lysistrate

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Gender:Friesiangal,
Please forgive my ignorance, but what does WWVD stand for? All I can come up with is 'What Would Voldemort Do?'
Something tells me that's not right.
Linda

Change Voldemort to Valens.
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« Reply #49 - on: 18.06.2014 at 08:19 [UT+1] »Quote from Friesiangal on 17.06.2014 at 09:05 [UT+1]:
Hi again,
Discounting the now ex-member charts, I get, characterwise:
Calla :

Cc + ADE d.

Which has the stronger effect? Mind on or over feelings; feelings over mind?
Any chance of getting the same signers comparing how their planetary systems work(ed) through character?

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Gender:Hmm, I'm not sure what exactly you're asking me here. Do you mean do I tend to have good mental control
over my feelings or do my feelings affect my thinking? The answer is both! I can't explain exactly why...justtrust meI also have cB in the 3rd, which gives me the tendency to analyze my feelings to death, but also gives me theability to step back from my emotions and even disassociate when necessary. I'm quite receptive to otherpeople's emotions (also have Ih in the 8th) so this is a very welcome part of my chart for me. I feel like I
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Atmosphericshadows« Reply #50 - on: 18.06.2014 at 09:43 [UT+1] »MemberQuote from Friesiangal on 17.06.2014 at 09:05 [UT+1]:
Hi again,
Discounting the now ex-member charts, I get, characterwise:
Calla :

Cc + ADE d.

Which has the stronger effect? Mind on or over feelings; feelings over mind?

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Angi:

F to BJO f
JDA E fJohnmike59

Only 1 common denominator:

Jf generation, yet to a luminary.
f convention?

Who would have the more difficulty with the 'stickler' to

ECFA g in 12th house,
CFGJ g in 6th house,
I wonder how CF would regard that which is in the opposing house to the other.
Perhaps WWVD with 5 planets in g could act as refereee???
LindaC

Lysistrate

Atmos.shad. is a loner to date with BGOIr j.
Is the cement a fixture that is hardening or crumbling?

ACDF kCGACDFB 7 planets k.

Midnight Sun
Helene's sis

Catalina: my 6 signerb was 2 weeks younger than yours. You used the exact word..... 'immoveable'.

Any chance of getting the same signers comparing how their planetary systems work(ed) through character?
Thanks for the input, everyone.

Hi Friesiangal!
With transit pluto that cement has crumbled quite a bit the past several years. BUT I am working very hard torebuild it better and stronger than ever!
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