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lillianEx Member

Daddy's Girls« on: 20.09.2011 at 00:21 [UT+1] »What would this show up as in astrology? I'm thinking A in aspect with I or maybe AF. I would think it
would be the hard aspects, like mo n mostly. I've looked at some charts of people that I know to be daddy's
girls and so far it's lived up to my hypothesis.

Daddy's Girl in this context would mean: I define it as not just a good relationship, but one that is like a child's,
but well into adulthood. What you've described is what I am looking for -- a woman who never outgrows thatchildlike adoration of the father to the point that she doesn't see him as a real person, but more like a God.
With most, the father falls off the pedestal by a certain age, usually by the teens, but they can still have a close
and warm relationship. The Daddy's Girl never experiences his fall from grace, so he remains 'perfect' and she
acts like a child would in regards to him.
I'm working on a theory that A in hard aspect to G can be indicative too.
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butterflyfishes

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #1 - on: 20.09.2011 at 01:53 [UT+1] »Quote:
I'm working on a theory that

A in hard aspect to G can be indicative too.

Possibly, yes. But you might want to align it by house.
Pal #1 big time Daddy's girl: AmGg (2deg), applying, in 7H, lots of other conjunctions on top of this one
including BDJ, is wholly attached to her Dad and has nothing to do with her Mom; her I is chart ruler, on
the MC, neatly q to this stellium in g
Me, not in the slightest a Daddy's girl, haven't spoken in years:

AmG from hto g (8deg), separating, at endof 4H, other conjunctions here include JD; my B is chart ruler, on the MC
Our birthdays are not very far apart and this similar but disparate attachment to our parents has always
interested me. She's totally Daddy's girl.. I'm all about my Mom. For both of us the "other" parent barely
exists.
Hope others have more to chime in with.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #2 - on: 20.09.2011 at 02:05 [UT+1] »I have a friend who is very attached to her father she has 10th house A o FmG in the 1st and AnI in 4th.
Her father is her best friend, she can't go a day without talking to him
Me, not at all. My 12th house AmO...my father has never been a strong figure in my life, I'd lost contact withhim for many years...and now, I do try and make an effort, but its for my son's sake more thananything....should add that I don't have any negative issues with him.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #3 - on: 20.09.2011 at 02:46 [UT+1] »Quote from butterflyfishes on 20.09.2011 at 01:53 [UT+1]:
Quote:
I'm working on a theory that

A in hard aspect to G can be indicative too.

Possibly, yes. But you might want to align it by house.

AmGg

Pal #1 big time Daddy's girl:(2deg), applying, in 7H, lots of other conjunctions on top of this one including
attached to her Dad and has nothing to do with her Mom; heris chart ruler, on the MC, neatly
to this stellium inIMe, not in the slightest a Daddy's girl, haven't spoken in years:
here include; myis chart ruler, on the MCJDqBDJ, is whollyg

AmG from htog (8deg), separating, at end of 4H, other conjunctions

B

Our birthdays are not very far apart and this similar but disparate attachment to our parents has always interested me. She's totally
Daddy's girl.. I'm all about my Mom. For both of us the "other" parent barely exists.
Hope others have more to chime in with.

I'm wondering if your AGm is too wide. I normally wouldn't count a 7 degree, but some would since it's theA. Your friend's totally fits what I've been seeing. the I/mc may be relevant too. And I see you have B mc
and that fits the closeness with your mom.
Thanks.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #4 - on: 20.09.2011 at 02:47 [UT+1] »I idealised and adored my father as a child and I put that down to GpI and GpD (grand trine). Apart fromthat both my 12th house A and 8th house G are very afflicted. Those childhood feelings returned when my
Dad was sick with Cancer and dementia and I cared for him at home till he died last year.
But my sister was the real Daddy's girl. She remained close to him, emotionally and physically all her life until
he died. She called and visited him regularly because she needed and relied him, he was a huge part of her life.
Whereas I stayed in touch more out of duty and love, till he got sick. She has A conjunct the MC exactly
trining her GmB. I've read that the BG conjunction can manifest as 'Dad was Mum'. It's so true in her case,our mother left when she was only 5, so Dad really was Mum for her, and she was always his baby.
For me he was a complex man, who had a huge but complicated affect on me. He and I are incredibly alike. But
for my sister he was her rock, simple and easy to love, and vice versa.
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lillianEx Member

Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #5 - on: 20.09.2011 at 02:48 [UT+1] »Quote from marydaze on 20.09.2011 at 02:05 [UT+1]:
I have a friend who is very attached to her father she has 10th housefriend, she can't go a day without talking to him

A o FmG in the 1st and AnI in 4th. Her father is her best

AmO

Me, not at all. My 12th house...my father has never been a strong figure in my life, I'd lost contact with him for many years...and
now, I do try and make an effort, but its for my son's sake more than anything....should add that I don't have any negative issues withhim.

Thanks, that fits my theory. I'm having a hard time thinking of famous people who are daddy's girls for somereason.

AO fits your relationship, since it's detached and it doesn't bother you.
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lillianEx Member

Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #6 - on: 20.09.2011 at 02:52 [UT+1] »Quote from Lynne on 20.09.2011 at 02:47 [UT+1]:

GpI

GpD

I idealised and adored my father as a child and I put that down toand(grand trine). Apart from that both my 12th houseand 8th houseare very afflicted. Those childhood feelings returned when my Dad was sick with Cancer and dementia and I cared forAG

him at home till he died last year.
But my sister was the real Daddy's girl. She remained close to him, emotionally and physically all her life until he died. She called andvisited him regularly because she needed and relied him, he was a huge part of her life. Whereas I stayed in touch more out of duty andlove, till he got sick. She has
conjunct the MC exactly trining her. I've read that the
conjunction can manifest as 'Dad was

A

GmB

BG

Mum'. It's so true in her case, our mother left when she was only 5, so Dad really was Mum for her, and she was always his baby.
For me he was a complex man, who had a huge but complicated affect on me. He and I are incredibly alike. But for my sister he was her
rock, simple and easy to love, and vice versa.

I wondered about the GI, because G can be thought of as father, but I wanted to keep it as simple aspossible,

BmG could indicate that for sure. It makes sense. It also fits the mom being gone, since G is restriction.

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Rainbird

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #7 - on: 20.09.2011 at 02:54 [UT+1] »Lillian,

Good question. I have yet to meet a women that gets along with her father, let alone a daddy's girl.

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Gender:At first I was thinking the same as BFF. A, G and J represent the father. D represents love. But when you
put G or J together in any combination you usually end up with the opposite results.
Maybe D or C in the 4H?!

Hummm....

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #8 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:00 [UT+1] »I gravitated more toward my dad when I was younger.Maybe due to some transit that faded out over time
Our relationship intensified after I came home from a trip with him & my brother.I was about 4 or 5 at the
time&I think that's when I first started calling my mom 'mommy'.I can't remember if I did before,but I
strongly remember I did then.She told me to stop&I remember feeling sad.That's when I started the process ofcalling her by her actual name over 'mommy'.At that point,that brought me even closer to my dad.It lasted forawhile but somewhere everything changed.I guess growing up.Now I feel uneasy about trusting my dad&I'mscared to get too close despite him being sick.
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G is suppose to represent our father,yeah? mine is in l/12H.

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lillianEx Member

Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #9 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:07 [UT+1] »Quote from Rainbird on 20.09.2011 at 02:54 [UT+1]:
Lillian,

Good question. I have yet to meet a women that gets along with her father, let alone a daddy's girl.

A G

J

At first I was thinking the same as BFF.
,
andrepresent the father.
combination you usually end up with the opposite results.
Maybe

D represents love. But when you put G or J together in any

D or C in the 4H?! Hummm....

Rainbird

G does represent the dad, but I think A does too and it's much more personal. I wouldn't use J for father,
but we'll see if it comes up with personal planets a lot with daddy's girls -- it might. But then I would take it asa tone of the relationship and not signifying father.
For mom, I'd use B and D. I would expect to see the same aspect with BD as with daddy's girls, except in
the case where the father acted as the mother due to her absence like the other poster mentioned.
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lillianEx Member

Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #10 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:09 [UT+1] »Quote from rammstein200594 on 20.09.2011 at 03:00 [UT+1]:
I gravitated more toward my dad when I was younger.Maybe due to some transit that faded out over time
Our relationship intensified after I came home from a trip with him & my brother.I was about 4 or 5 at the time&I think that's when I firststarted calling my mom 'mommy'.I can't remember if I did before,but I strongly remember I did then.She told me to stop&I remember
feeling sad.That's when I started the process of calling her by her actual name over 'mommy'.At that point,that brought me even closer tomy dad.It lasted for awhile but somewhere everything changed.I guess growing up.Now I feel uneasy about trusting my dad&I'm scared to
get too close despite him being sick.

G is suppose to represent our father,yeah? mine is in l/12H.

How's your B aspected? Are there G or J or I hits?
How is your G and A -- which aspects to they make?
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #11 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:17 [UT+1] »Quote from lillian on 20.09.2011 at 03:09 [UT+1]:
Quote from rammstein200594 on 20.09.2011 at 03:00 [UT+1]:
I gravitated more toward my dad when I was younger.Maybe due to some transit that faded out over time
Our relationship intensified after I came home from a trip with him & my brother.I was about 4 or 5 at the time&I thinkthat's when I first started calling my mom 'mommy'.I can't remember if I did before,but I strongly remember I did
then.She told me to stop&I remember feeling sad.That's when I started the process of calling her by her actual name over'mommy'.At that point,that brought me even closer to my dad.It lasted for awhile but somewhere everything changed.I
guess growing up.Now I feel uneasy about trusting my dad&I'm scared to get too close despite him being sick.

G is suppose to represent our father,yeah? mine is in l/12H.
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Gender:How's yourB aspected? Are there G or J or I hits?

How is yourG and A -- which aspects to they make?

My B is in f/6H.It makes a p to I&an n to G.No aspects to J.
My A is in f/6H too.It makes all the same aspects as my B does.
My G makes 2 p s.One to E&the other to F.It opposes both my A+B.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #12 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:18 [UT+1] »Ramm,

That's sad.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #13 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:18 [UT+1] »Quote:

AGm is too wide. I normally wouldn't count a 7 degree, but some would since it's the A. Your friend's totally fits
I/mc may be relevant too. And I see you have B mc and that fits the closeness with your mom.

I'm wondering if yourwhat I've been seeing. theVery possible. Also out of sign, separating. I'm not a big fan of wide orbs for m either.
I go back and forth with her chart and mine because planets/aspects are so similar between the two, and yet
there are very different personality signatures between us in some areas. In this case, a shared penchant todepend more heavily upon one parent than the other.. yet a totally opposite choice in which parent.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #14 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:23 [UT+1] »Lillian,There was a long thread a few months ago on fathers. Did you get a chance to read it? If not I can try finding
it for you. The OP asked if you see your father as the -A or G in your chart and if that is somehow asociatedwith a day or a night birth time.
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Gender:I have B/I p D. I get along with my mom. It's a fairly normal and loving relationship. My dad not somuch. I stopped talking to him two years ago. My choice. Oddly enough (going on what was said about
Marydaze) it was the same day T-O p N-A. I haven't had a second thought or doubt about it since. No
qualms about the relationship between my daughter and him either. The way I see it, he was not a niceperson; she has other people in her life and I'm not going to look for scraps of affection where I'm not wanted.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #15 - on: 20.09.2011 at 03:32 [UT+1] »Quote from Rainbird on 20.09.2011 at 03:23 [UT+1]:
Lillian,There was a long thread a few months ago on fathers. Did you get a chance to read it? If not I can try finding it for you. The OP asked if
you see your father as the orin your chart and if that is somehow asociated with a day or a night birth time.

A

G

Rainbird

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Gender:I remember that.I was born at night,so I believe my dad is shown by my lG.His career was even water/sea
related.
I don't understand how my parents could be alike with both my A+B in f.They aren't IMO.
Despite that early rough patch,I now sway more toward my mom.As I've gotten older,I get why she is how she
is.Her mom(my grandma) wasn't exactly stellar in her life.My mom was actually a daddy's girl but I don't havea TOB for her

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #16 - on: 20.09.2011 at 04:58 [UT+1] »I've just barely skimmed the responses so if anyone already said this, then let me apologize in advance,
but...why not Sun-Venus? Although, I have the sun semisextile Venus and I've always had a really awkward,
uneasy relationship with my dad - during attempts at conversation, there's always a bunch of long, awkwardpauses... we do love one another and for the most part there's no issues there causing it or anything like that,it's like we've just never completely bonded or like we just don't 'get' or understand each other and feel at easearound one another, despite my mars being in the same sign as his sun. I'm definitely more of a Mama's Girl;
my mom was the person I felt closest to and the most comfortable around out of anyone on this planet.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #17 - on: 20.09.2011 at 07:01 [UT+1] »Quote:

G does represent the dad, but I think A does too and it's much more personal.

I think that G can represent the parent that has authority for the child, so mum or dad.
In my own case, G in 10th pB, my mother was the one that raised us kids, she was the nurturer andPosts: 1258
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A in 12th mO, my father was absent.
Its hard to pin G solely on the father figure...traditionally yes, but the family unit is very different today, andgender roles are different....
Personally, I go with A = Dad/masculine, B = mother/feminine, and planets aspecting then describe or colour
the experience the child has of that parent....but still, look at each chart with flexibility.
Interesting, in North Indian astrology the father is generally G, very traditional and disciplinary...but in South
India the father is generally F, as the father is seen as the childs first teacher, his first guru.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #18 - on: 20.09.2011 at 16:33 [UT+1] »It might be worth it to have a look at the asteroid Pallas. She sprung fully formed out of Zeus' head, you know.
No mother at all, the quintessential Daddy's girl.
I have Pallas on the South Node. My father and I have Asc, Sun, Moon (oos), Mercury and Venus conjunct.
We have been estranged for 3 yrs.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #19 - on: 20.09.2011 at 16:47 [UT+1] »My dad's F (my chart ruler) was m my ASC, and our As trined, his g and mine c.
I have no complaints.
He was a cool dad.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #20 - on: 20.09.2011 at 16:59 [UT+1] »Someone else linked to this article by Greene below in a thread about infidelity. I think some of the themes of
the triangle can be played out in a more positive way with the Daddy's Girl thing but sometimes it is an
imbalance for the child, the father, and the mother..
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_triangle_e.htm
This is something quite different from really just loving one's father and feeling close and connected to him.
Edit: Not to put a dark cloud over everything, I'm just curious that no one has mentioned this, thatelement of transgression that can happen here, where a child wins a father's love but then doesn't learn how to
be an adult woman, because the mother figure is displaced.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #21 - on: 20.09.2011 at 17:19 [UT+1] »I wonder if this also has something to do with the relationship between the two luminaries as well as theplanets they aspect, type of aspects etc.
I have ApB which means that I am equally close to both, although my relationships with both of them are
different. I tend to have light hearted and intellectual conversations with my Dad and then with my Mum
there's the typical female banter and a lot of arguements. I tread carefully when it comes to my dad as he is a
bit of a 'brick wall', hard to break into.
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my generation and also because I wouldn't want to worry them. We all pretty much do our own thing.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #22 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:04 [UT+1] »Quote from Rainbird on 20.09.2011 at 03:23 [UT+1]:
Lillian,There was a long thread a few months ago on fathers. Did you get a chance to read it? If not I can try finding it for you. The OP asked if
you see your father as the I have

A or G in your chart and if that is somehow asociated with a day or a night birth time.

B/I p D. I get along with my mom. It's a fairly normal and loving relationship. My dad not so much. I stopped talking to him
Op A

two years ago. My choice. Oddly enough (going on what was said about Marydaze) it was the same day TN- . I haven't had asecond thought or doubt about it since. No qualms about the relationship between my daughter and him either. The way I see it, he was
not a nice person; she has other people in her life and I'm not going to look for scraps of affection where I'm not wanted.

Rainbird

I don't think I did.
I think you did the right thing. It's all very O or k, because most wouldn't be so detached, but it is good thatyou can see it that way, instead of holding on for some fairytale reason.
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lillianEx Member

Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #23 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:05 [UT+1] »Quote from butterflyfishes on 20.09.2011 at 03:18 [UT+1]:
Quote:AGmA

I'm wondering if youris too wide. I normally wouldn't count a 7 degree, but some would since it's the. Yourfriend's totally fits what I've been seeing. the/mc may be relevant too. And I see you have
mc and that fits theIBcloseness with your mom.

Very possible. Also out of sign, separating. I'm not a big fan of wide orbs form either.

I go back and forth with her chart and mine because planets/aspects are so similar between the two, and yet there are very different
personality signatures between us in some areas. In this case, a shared penchant to depend more heavily upon one parent than the other..
yet a totally opposite choice in which parent.

It may have something to do with the houses. Also, her aspects are a bit different than yours.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #24 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:08 [UT+1] »Quote from rammstein200594 on 20.09.2011 at 03:32 [UT+1]:
Quote from Rainbird on 20.09.2011 at 03:23 [UT+1]:
Lillian,There was a long thread a few months ago on fathers. Did you get a chance to read it? If not I can try finding it for you.
The OP asked if you see your father as the -A or G in your chart and if that is somehow asociated with a day or a nightbirth time.

Rainbird

I remember that.I was born at night,so I believe my dad is shown by myI don't understand how my parents could be alike with both mylG.His career was even water/sea related.

A+B in f.They aren't IMO.

Despite that early rough patch,I now sway more toward my mom.As I've gotten older,I get why she is how she is.Her mom(my grandma)
wasn't exactly stellar in her life.My mom was actually a daddy's girl but I don't have a TOB for her

Your relationship to them both seems to be alike, though, so in a way it does make sense. Without seeing yourchart it seems the n to G could have something to do with it. Were you born on the new moon or is it wide?
Even so, you'd be born near the new moon even if was separating.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #25 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:10 [UT+1] »Quote from Dren_ on 20.09.2011 at 04:58 [UT+1]:
I've just barely skimmed the responses so if anyone already said this, then let me apologize in advance, but...why not Sun-Venus?
Although, I have the sun semisextile Venus and I've always had a really awkward, uneasy relationship with my dad - during attempts atconversation, there's always a bunch of long, awkward pauses... we do love one another and for the most part there's no issues there
causing it or anything like that, it's like we've just never completely bonded or like we just don't 'get' or understand each other and feel atease around one another, despite my mars being in the same sign as his sun. I'm definitely more of a Mama's Girl; my mom was the
person I felt closest to and the most comfortable around out of anyone on this planet.

AD can be possible. I'm looking for examples so if it turns up a lot then it would mean something. It would
have to be tight, because they're never too far away from each other.
How's your B aspected?
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #26 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:14 [UT+1] »Quote from marydaze on 20.09.2011 at 07:01 [UT+1]:
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G does represent the dad, but I think A does too and it's much more personal.
I think that

G can represent the parent that has authority for the child, so mum or dad.

G in 10th pB, my mother was the one that raised us kids, she was the nurturer and authoritarian.
A in 12th mO, my father was absent.
In my own case,Its hard to pin
different....

G solely on the father figure...traditionally yes, but the family unit is very different today, and gender roles are

Personally, I go with A = Dad/masculine, B = mother/feminine, and planets aspecting thendescribe or colour the experience the child has of that parent....but still, look at each chart withflexibility.

G, very traditional and disciplinary...but in South India the father is generallyF, as the father is seen as the childs first teacher, his first guru.
Interesting, in North Indian astrology the father is generally

That's why I'm not using G as the significator for the father in this situation. That and it's too generational.
You're the 2nd person to mentionAO m for an absent father or a cool relationship with him and it does makesense.
I completely agree with the highlighted part. That's interesting about the Indian astrology.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #27 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:15 [UT+1] »Definately NOT a Daddy's Girl here and I have AmG and AnI and ImASC. Of course, when your father is a
4-planet Aquarian ABCE with c ASC and Dj... he's not the warmest guy on the planet!

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #28 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:16 [UT+1] »Quote from *EarthMonkey* on 20.09.2011 at 16:33 [UT+1]:
It might be worth it to have a look at the asteroid Pallas. She sprung fully formed out of Zeus' head, you know. No mother at all, thequintessential Daddy's girl.
I have Pallas on the South Node. My father and I have Asc, Sun, Moon (oos), Mercury and Venus conjunct.
We have been estranged for 3 yrs.

Yes, that may be interesting.
How's your A aspected in natal? I'm staying away from synastry for now.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #29 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:17 [UT+1] »Quote from Michelle on 20.09.2011 at 16:47 [UT+1]:
My dad'sF (my chart ruler) was m my ASC, and our As trined, his g and mine c.

I have no complaints.
He was a cool dad.

How was your natal A aspected?
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #30 - on: 20.09.2011 at 22:22 [UT+1] »Quote from scorpiosea on 20.09.2011 at 16:59 [UT+1]:
Someone else linked to this article by Greene below in a thread about infidelity. I think some of the themes of the triangle can be playedout in a more positive way with the Daddy's Girl thing but sometimes it is an imbalance for the child, the father, and the mother..
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_triangle_e.htm
This is something quite different from really just loving one's father and feeling close and connected to him.
Edit: Not to put a dark cloud over everything, I'm just curious that no one has mentioned this, that element of transgression that canhappen here, where a child wins a father's love but then doesn't learn how to be an adult woman, because the mother figure is displaced.

I really should have been more clear and defined 'daddy's girl' because I define it as not a good relationship,
but one that is like a child's, but well into adulthood. What you've described is what I am looking for -- awoman who never outgrows that childlike adoration of the father to the point that she doesn't see him as a real
person, but more like a God. With most, the father falls off the pedestal by a certain age, usually by the teens,but they can still have a close and warm relationship. The Daddy's Girl never experiences his fall from grace, so
he remains 'perfect' and she acts like a child would in regards to him. I think everyone knows one person likethis. It stunts their growth somehow and they usually pick much older men or have very bad relationships withmen, because no man can live up to daddy -- or they pick very immature men. It's for these reasons(pedestal/god-like) that I picked IF aspects to A as a hypothesis.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #31 - on: 20.09.2011 at 23:00 [UT+1] »Ah great, glad I didn't derail or darken anything!
Using that hypothesis above I would guess there might be an afflicted Moon, maybe, because the mother would
be denigrated by both the father and the daughter. The father in this instance actually is making the daughter
like a wife in a way, so that although the child still acts 'childish' into adulthood, there is an element oftransgressive sexual energy. Neptune making it all seem wonderful... Neptune opposite Moon someone said
above, allows them to be projected onto. The father sees something in the child, he's actually using her tofulfill his own needs, in which case I think it's not just individual aspects - not at all - but it's the synastry andcomposite between father and daughter.
In synastry we could see SN contact, 2nd and 8th house overlays (sexual), Mars square Neptune, Moon square
Neptune, Saturn conjunct Venus, Mars/Venus contacts, Venus/Pluto contacts, Moon/Pluto contacts. In thecomposite I'd look at house placement of chart ruler and the Sun, expecting to see one or the other in the
12th, as there is something hidden about this kind of relationship - the sexuality is there but it's buried. Might
look for Mars opposite or square Venus, sexuality that would have trouble being expressed, and again hard
Moon to Pluto and Neptune contacts.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #32 - on: 20.09.2011 at 23:09 [UT+1] »Quote from lillian on 20.09.2011 at 00:21 [UT+1]:

A in aspect with I or maybe AF. I would think it would be the hard aspects, likemo n mostly. I've looked at some charts of people that I know to be daddy's girls and so far it's lived up to my hypothesis.
What would this show up as in astrology? I'm thinking

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Gender:Daddy's Girl in this context would mean: I define it as not a good relationship, but one that is like a child's, but well into adulthood. What
you've described is what I am looking for -- a woman who never outgrows that childlike adoration of the father to the point that she
doesn't see him as a real person, but more like a God. With most, the father falls off the pedestal by a certain age, usually by the teens,but they can still have a close and warm relationship. The Daddy's Girl never experiences his fall from grace, so he remains 'perfect' andshe acts like a child would in regards to him.
I'm working on a theory that

A in hard aspect to G can be indicative too.

I have AnFoI and was indeed a bit of a daddy's girl when younger, his mum my gran took over alot too so I
was kinda taken over by that half of the family as a child. I wouldn't describe my dad as a god though, I know
he is human and ill and frail now with MS and sadly 8 years ago I discovered he may not be my biological dad
but I am not sure if he knows. anyways I do still ask his advice often about computers and yes he is a strong
character and so I do feel like a child around him to an extent. I'm a sort of daddy's girl I guess and I have had
my share of relationship difficulties often picking younger men but put this more down to my husband dying.
my G is unaspected apart from a small t to my A anyways I certainly fit your astrological aspects here but
am unsure if I am a true daddy's girl.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #33 - on: 21.09.2011 at 00:21 [UT+1] »Quote:
Daddy's Girl in this context would mean: I define it as not just a good relationship, but one that is like a child's, but well into adulthood.
What you've described is what I am looking for -- a woman who never outgrows that childlike adoration of the father to the point that she
doesn't see him as a real person, but more like a God. With most, the father falls off the pedestal by a certain age, usually by the teens,but they can still have a close and warm relationship. The Daddy's Girl never experiences his fall from grace, so he remains 'perfect' andPosts: 1948
Gender:she acts like a child would in regards to him.

That is a different definition than what one would automatically think, 'Daddy's Girl' but very insightful and fullof truth. I definitely fit this description- I have AmI with A in the 12th house. I cant' talk to my dad too
often, but it's also hard when we are out of touch for too long. The disillusion is terrible, although it has
subsided substantially since Pluto transited over my natal Neptune two years ago. If I go for too long without
talking to him, I get nostalgic and sad. If I talk to him, the reality of who he is can be too hard to bear attimes(he's a selfish alcoholic on the path of destruction). He still has the power to brighten my day when his
spirits are better, though! He is a Leo stellium.. my memories of him are truly like the Sun when I was a child,although when I became an adult.. esp since that Pluto transit, I understand that he didn't want the
responsibility of having me. It's still a tough pill to swallow, but nevertheless we bonded on an emotional level
more than I did with my mother. I also have AoB and DoG.. he has DoG as well.
The only other person I know that has a very similar complex has I,G in the 12th house.. sextile to the Sun
and trine to Venus.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #34 - on: 21.09.2011 at 00:38 [UT+1] »I was a "daddy's girl"(he is deceased)natal DKI conjunct , trine G. I still "miss him". But, I'm happliy married to a j rising (and his is "dad" toour family and me!
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Husband's

G trines my DKI!!

We've been married "for a very long stable (G) time.

Other: natal A square G, personal reality, translation/interpretation: He was in his 60's ( G older man)when I was born, and retired shortly afterwards so we had a lot of "wonderful times together". He was "mynurturing parent" and "mentor". A G square A doe not "always have to mean" "a bad/cold/harsh relationshipwith dad (as everthing astrological goes, it all depends on each and every person's "personal life (home andcircumstances) how all aspects "play out".
Mom was a wonderful person, but with 10 kids (8 older then myself) (with many grandkids to boot), she had
her "hands full", and did not have the "energy" to give me all the "time in my dad did.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #35 - on: 21.09.2011 at 00:47 [UT+1] »Quote from lillian on 20.09.2011 at 22:04 [UT+1]:
Quote from Rainbird on 20.09.2011 at 03:23 [UT+1]:
Lillian,There was a long thread a few months ago on fathers. Did you get a chance to read it? If not I can try finding it for you.
The OP asked if you see your father as the -A or G in your chart and if that is somehow asociated with a day or a nightbirth time.

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Gender:I haveB/I p D. I get along with my mom. It's a fairly normal and loving relationship. My dad not so much. I stopped

talking to him two years ago. My choice. Oddly enough (going on what was said about Marydaze) it was the same day T-

O p N-A. I haven't had a second thought or doubt about it since. No qualms about the relationship between my daughterand him either. The way I see it, he was not a nice person; she has other people in her life and I'm not going to look for
scraps of affection where I'm not wanted.

Rainbird

I don't think I did.
I think you did the right thing. It's all very

O or k, because most wouldn't be so detached, but it is good that you can see it that way,

instead of holding on for some fairytale reason.

It wasn't easy breezy. It was sudden. At the same time he had it coming.
He was in and out of my life for most of my life. I actually did like him, a lot when he was around. We havesome good synastry aspects. However!! It took me years to realize he was a fake. I would best describe him as
NPD BPD. For years I wanted to tell him that he was not behaving the way a 'normal' parent does, even a
devorced one. I just couldn't. I could never ever tell him about all the things that were wrong --- and there
were so many. I liked his personality, not his actions. Then one day too much was too much and I told him toleave me alone. How very bottle-pop E n I of me.
Since then I stopped caring. I really did. I just think of him as a visitor that was around and went away. Sincete break I also had to cone to terms to NOT romantically attract me like him --- emotionally detached with ahint of total nessassim and psychopatic tendencies. It really didn't hit me until the last guy I briefly dated, butwhen it finally hit me it railroaded me. At first I was like "WTF did I see in you?" Then I realized what I saw inhim, my own father.
It takes a lot of concious effort to not date people like your parents or repeat the cycle of your parents'
relationship.

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #36 - on: 21.09.2011 at 14:46 [UT+1] »Quote:
I also had to cone to terms to NOT romantically attract me like him --- emotionally detached with a hint of total nessassim andpsychopatic tendencies.

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Gender:these type of man happened to be My Moms dream Man..... emotionally quiet, fun when not bugged......
then try to ask them to be there for you
i grow up without Father....... and My moms emotional world is complex Bh, she is great at Nurturing little
animals
and kids,and that is about it.......decides to stay single for this reason, and cant really share her self emotionallywith anybody
for true reason.... she says Nobody is in her soul.....it is too private to share with anyone.....
so her dream man are the ones that emotionally closed of..... but fun to be around..... Momma Boys....
i also fear the depth of emotional sharing with a mate.....
and had been ok with man like these...... yet suffered but could not understand why i do....
i had made my self into Daddies Girl........ and all of my best friends have fathers and have been Daddies girls
if man cant give me emotional relationship i make sure they give me other wise...... and spoil me.....
NGm 4H.......no aspect with B or A
PS i do think that we are all to some extent, have these types of emotional debilitation.....and all these newnames for some sort of sicknesses........
i mean common.... world is just starting to acknowledge what is healthy and what is notthere is like not one pure healthy being on this earth is it?
its all comes down to preference of experiencing something......
There is this couple i know and they are very emotionally involved with each otheryet it looks a bit too consuming for others..........They do look like ´One´ being.......
super strange, they are of different racial back ground and have similar facial resemblancei honestly don't know what is better emotionally involved or not.....
N ApI and BoI
i do believe though... that man exist for one and only reason...
is to make a woman Happy the way she
would like too

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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #37 - on: 21.09.2011 at 15:24 [UT+1] »Quote from lillian on 20.09.2011 at 22:10 [UT+1]:
Quote from Dren_ on 20.09.2011 at 04:58 [UT+1]:
I've just barely skimmed the responses so if anyone already said this, then let me apologize in advance, but...why not
Sun-Venus? Although, I have the sun semisextile Venus and I've always had a really awkward, uneasy relationship with mydad - during attempts at conversation, there's always a bunch of long, awkward pauses... we do love one another and forthe most part there's no issues there causing it or anything like that, it's like we've just never completely bonded or likewe just don't 'get' or understand each other and feel at ease around one another, despite my mars being in the same sign
as his sun. I'm definitely more of a Mama's Girl; my mom was the person I felt closest to and the most comfortablearound out of anyone on this planet.

AD can be possible. I'm looking for examples so if it turns up a lot then it would mean something. It would have to be tight, because
they're never too far away from each other.
How's yourB aspected?

Quintile sun, conjunct Pluto, sextile Neptune.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #38 - on: 22.09.2011 at 02:00 [UT+1] »Quote from lillian on 20.09.2011 at 22:08 [UT+1]:
Quote from rammstein200594 on 20.09.2011 at 03:32 [UT+1]:
Quote from Rainbird on 20.09.2011 at 03:23 [UT+1]:
Lillian,There was a long thread a few months ago on fathers. Did you get a chance to read it? If not I can try
finding it for you. The OP asked if you see your father as the asociated with a day or a night birth time.

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A or G in your chart and if that is somehow

Rainbird

Gender:I remember that.I was born at night,so I believe my dad is shown by myI don't understand how my parents could be alike with both mylG.His career was even water/sea related.

A+B in f.They aren't IMO.

Despite that early rough patch,I now sway more toward my mom.As I've gotten older,I get why she is how she is.Her
mom(my grandma) wasn't exactly stellar in her life.My mom was actually a daddy's girl but I don't have a TOB for her

Your relationship to them both seems to be alike, though, so in a way it does make sense. Without seeing your chart it seems then to G

could have something to do with it. Were you born on the new moon or is it wide? Even so, you'd be born near the new moon even if was
separating.

New B baby-pretty much.My A is at about 13degrees while my B is around 15&I have N sandwiched
inbetween at 14.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #39 - on: 22.09.2011 at 02:28 [UT+1] »I am. sun pluto conj. with saturn in the same sign. saturn as significator for my father is the strongest or one
og my strongest planets. saturn trines AC. AC applicative. We though have a bit communiaction problems.
saturn semisquare mercury. My father is capricorn.
moon though sextile AC is opp saturn and exactly opp jupiter, in pisces. moon is a planetry singleton wide opp
to venus and wide square to neptune. trine uranus, wide trine to mercury. She is saggitarian. You can have funwith her, but fun isn´t everything in life, so I better stick with my dad
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #40 - on: 22.09.2011 at 11:25 [UT+1] »My mom was a true daddy's girl. She has AmJmG in e in H12. She lost her father when I was 1 year old, but
gained me. I guess for her the net gain was a bit small.
My parents divorced when I was 4 , but never really lived a happy life. Still I have lA (H8/9 cusp-physicallydistant father with psychiatric problems/alcoholism)qG (H10). My father was never particularly interested inme. He is a true j with not much success in his private life. His emotional nature is pretty complicated (hB).
He looks such an egotist and loner, but what lies beneath noone really knows. We have a distant, but goodrship. I'm not angry with him having left us as that was somehow just natural from my childhood. I'm also notattached to him at all. Feel as if he was just a good acquaintance (I have kD, so I usually treat everybody
equally cordially).
Funny that dA/eA father/daughter rship repeated itself from my grandfather/mother to mypartner/daughter. My daughter is sooo much like his father outside and inside as well. They both have Earth
Bs, CmG and a DJ contact. She is two but she doesn't like his father too much. I'm afraid a bit as theirsynastry shows his ACG m herD...we'll see.
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Re: Daddy's Girls« Reply #41 - on: 22.09.2011 at 12:12 [UT+1] »Even if you have a distant or difficult relationship with your dad, you do tend to repeat. For me, it's
emotionally distant music obsessives.
My dad had four aquarian planets and no water..impossible to be close to. My sister would have been a daddy's
girl had he the inclination...she was too emotionally demanding for him.
My brother was a 'daddy's boy'.....he has moon conjunct uranus so probably coped better with the emotional
distance.
I have said previously that you are looking at moon in capricorn , aquarius or leo for a very strong either goodor bad relationship with dad. Amy Winehouse is a classic daddy's girl..the thread on her suggests moon in cap.
My ex friend with moon in cap was used by her dad as a weopon against her mother. He made her feel special
by showing her off as a 'prodigy' to his friends and denigrating mum's intellect. She, unfortunately, has bought
into this since his death. I do not think he was a good dad. he did not control his illness and made her
responsible for looking after him at a very early age. I think he has made her vulnerable to abusive men,something i only realised very recently. As boys also saved her from bullying at school, she has expectations
that men will look after her and indulge her. I don't doubt that there was affection between them but I also
don't doubt the damage he has done.
I have sun trine saturn and neptune: my dad was a strong ethical influence but that's it.
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