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nameinuse
MemberPlanets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« on: 07.07.2011 at 02:31 [UT+1] »How do you think a personal planet that does not have any positive aspects to other personal planets would
impact on a person in relation to that planet?

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Lynne

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #1 - on: 07.07.2011 at 02:59 [UT+1] »I don't know, but all of my personal planets have no positive aspects to each other...and I seem to be still
functioning.
But I'm not sure what you mean by 'out of place in the chart', could you explain it a bit more?
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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #2 - on: 07.07.2011 at 03:03 [UT+1] »Well, I wouldn't call such a planet "out of place in a chart"! God doesn't make mistakes (or the universe, foratheists.)
If the planet makes one or more stressful aspects, I would suggest that the person will face challenges indeveloping the energies of that planet in a positive way. She is likely to manifest some of its negative
attributes until she gains some level of introspection into her behaviour. Squares or oppositions to Jupiter andVenus are usually less stressful than squares to Mars, Saturn, or an outer planet.
If the planet makes no major aspects, the person will have to work at integrating that planet's energies into herlife in a constructive way. That planet is a bit of a stranger to the other planets.
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If it's any consolation, all of my personal planets are involved with oppositions or a square. I am now in myearly 60s, and I think my life turned out OK, notwithstanding.

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #3 - on: 07.07.2011 at 03:51 [UT+1] »Maybe out of place was a poor choice of words. Personal planets that every aspect to them would be either asquare, opposition or no aspect in relation to ABCDEF and ascendant.
An example would be having:
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AoE
BnE
DoE
En ascand E having no aspect to CF
this would put E in a position of having no positive aspects to any personal planets.
What I am asking with reference the above example, how would E being in such a position impact on a
person? The same would be said about ABCDEF in the same type of scenario.

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Matrika Matters
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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #4 - on: 07.07.2011 at 04:40 [UT+1] »Waybread Quote:
God doesn't make mistakes (or the universe, for atheists.)

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Have you taken a good look at the design of knees? Serious mistake there in my opinion.

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Lilith Rising

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #5 - on: 07.07.2011 at 10:11 [UT+1] »Quote from Matrika on 07.07.2011 at 04:40 [UT+1]:
Waybread Quote:
God doesn't make mistakes (or the universe, for atheists.)

Have you taken a good look at the design of knees? Serious mistake there in my opinion.

LOL!
I'm full of design faults. When I meet "my maker" I'll have a few words to say...
I despair of all my squares and oppositions involving personal planets. I'm not even sure the hard edges of mychart have worn off with progressions because as natal squares disappear, new squares appear in the progressed
chart! And now transiting Pluto and Uranus have started their attack on my natal t-square, it'll be a bumpy
ride ahead.
We're all a work in progress. Or (being kinder to myself and others), maybe there is a beauty in theimperfection and we were supposed to be this way.

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #6 - on: 07.07.2011 at 10:18 [UT+1] »Quote from nameinuse on 07.07.2011 at 03:51 [UT+1]:
Maybe out of place was a poor choice of words. Personal planets that every aspect to them would be either a square, opposition or no
aspect in relation toand ascendant.

ABCDEF

An example would be having:

AoE
BnE
DoE
En ascand E having no aspect to CF
this would put

E in a position of having no positive aspects to any personal planets.

What I am asking with reference the above example, how would
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in the same type of scenario.

E being in such a position impact on a person? The same would be said

ABCDEF

My A, B, C, E, and F are all in that category.
I don't really know what to say about that...except for negative things, and I don't want to bring the thread
down.

I'll let other people try to put a positive spin on it.

Waybread summed it up pretty well.
What I will say is, thank god for my D and I, and the Grand Trine.
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Matrika Matters

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #7 - on: 07.07.2011 at 15:42 [UT+1] »I don't agree with the premise that an n and o are not positive. It is a matter of getting to know yourself andworking with what you have got.
Have you ever met one of those entirely vacuous people who believe they are divine and perfect...no squares todevelop their character imo.
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The example you gave with a lot of Mars aspects...wouldn't that require the person to develop their self
expression and particularly find ways of asserting themself in a positive way...and finding channels for using up
some of their energy? Like jogging or sex or whatever that allows them to not become blocked and stifled.

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #8 - on: 07.07.2011 at 20:29 [UT+1] »Quote from nameinuse on 07.07.2011 at 03:51 [UT+1]:
Maybe out of place was a poor choice of words. Personal planets that every aspect to them would be either a square, opposition or no
aspect in relation toand ascendant.

ABCDEF

An example would be having:

AoE
BnE
DoE
En ascand E having no aspect to CF
this would put

E in a position of having no positive aspects to any personal planets.

What I am asking with reference the above example, how wouldabout

E being in such a position impact on a person? The same would be said

ABCDEF in the same type of scenario.

I kinda have this going on in my chart.
My Mars only has one positive aspect, a sextile to Venus, but it squares Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto. For me it
manifests on an external level as always having really bad interactions with men. They absolutely hate me.

At one point it bothered me a great deal but I've pretty much made my peace with it now, and have acceptedthat men are just going to find me strange and react to me with a certain amount of bewilderment and evenhostility.
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nameinuse

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #9 - on: 08.07.2011 at 00:27 [UT+1] »See I have DoE and DoG. I notice that women tend to dominate my life.

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #10 - on: 09.07.2011 at 01:09 [UT+1] »Quote from nameinuse on 07.07.2011 at 02:31 [UT+1]:
How do you think a personal planet that does not have any positive aspects to other personal planets would impact on a person in relation
to that planet?

All my personal planets are afflicted except Mars which trines uranus therefore not personal) and trines saturn (if i allow for a wide orb).

My experience is that primarily you are likely to feel conflicted a lot.
If you imagine for one minute that the chart is a zoo (bare with me) and each of the planets are different
animals who all have different diets. So.... what follows is that when feeding each animal (planet) one planetis happy whilst another just can't stomach whats on the menu. So it requires a lot of versatility, imagination,energy and inspiration to keep each of these individual appetites ( aspects of yourself) satisfied. If you don't
manage it they (meaning you) can become grumpy and snarly and bad tempered or morose and withdrawn (depending on temperament of the planet/aspect of yourself and you as a whole).
In other words you are likely going to be working harder than those individuals with trines when establishinga sense of inner contentment and 'harmony' or smoothness ( thats not exactly the word i want to use but its
close) within your life. However as you develop insight and the skills to manage these conflicting
needs/demands/aspects life will become smoother (that is why difficult aspects are handy because they drive
people to strive and so theses individuals often achieve a great deal and learn to manage adversity, obstacles
and challenges almost with easel).
So..essentially two planets in negative aspect to each other do not support each other. When seeking to achievea specific endeavor (unless that endeavor serves to meet both planets wants and needs) conflict is likely to beexperienced either within or from outside/the external world. Some will tell you it will be helpful to learn tocompromise, but it is much more than that, because compromise just leads to an uneasy truce within yourself.
To my mind it is more about being aware which planets dominate (and therefore are well fed and relatively
content if a bit overbearing) and which planets are hungry/starved/acting out their frustration and anger (andtherefore need a bit of TLC) in your chart. That way each aspect of yourself gets a 'look in' and the experienceof conflict within yourself is lessened.
I have to say the above is purely a subjective post based on my own experience and so you may not relate towhat i have written at all. Regardless the great thing about having afflicted personal planets is life is rarely
boring........ The difficult thing about having afflicted personal planets is that life is rarely boring.

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Lilith Rising

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #11 - on: 09.07.2011 at 09:02 [UT+1] »I totally relate to what you said Vivisha. You explained it beautifully.
I've found that the universe has kindly set me up with squares and oppositions in synastry to other people in
my life, which correspond to my own ones.
If I don't feed certain planets (Mars and Saturn) those people will stir me up and demand feeding, seemingly onbehalf of my own planets. There is a conflict both within me, and between the 2 other people in my life
representing my own opposition/square.
When I'm feeding those more minor beasts, my Sun doesn't feel happy.
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Ex Member« Reply #12 - on: 09.07.2011 at 10:30 [UT+1] »The person with Mars opposite AC and with those other aspects will likely look to a partner to express Martian
qualities - Mars conjunct DC, and this energy thwarted within the individual. In the chart you describe theperson has Mars opposite Moon so Moon is conjunct the acsendant, and then Venus and the Sun are together
creating a t square with Mars opposite Moon, correct? This means also that Venus and the Sun will be square
the ascendant/descendant axis which puts further pressure on relationships.
This person will have a hard time managing their emotions, and their relationships as Vivishna said will satisfy
partial needs but frustrate others, until they find a way to balance those needs inside themselves. In my
experience Mars square Venus will tend to either seek lots of sex and have a hard time connecting for more
affectionate relational experiences, or the opposite will be true.
I think this is an interesting combination that once the person learns to manage it, will make them quite
dynamic. Look to Aries in the chart - is it inhabited? Planets there may try to 'pick up the slack' from Mars
being so challenged.
PS My Mars is Opposite Saturn, and square Mercury, Neptune, Venus and Sun.

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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #13 - on: 09.07.2011 at 12:02 [UT+1] »Quote from Lilith Rising on 09.07.2011 at 09:02 [UT+1]:
I totally relate to what you said Vivisha . You explained it beautifully.
I've found that the universe has kindly set me up with squares and oppositions in synastry to other people in my life, which correspond to
my own ones.
If I don't feed certain planets (Mars and Saturn) those people will stir me up and demand feeding, seemingly on behalf of my own
planets. There is a conflict both within me, and between the 2 other people in my life representing my own opposition/square.
When I'm feeding those more minor beasts, my Sun doesn't feel happy.

So glad you could relate Lillith Rising

Yes i suspect the universe at times has quite a mischievous sense of

humour. We often meet ourselves in others.
It reminds me of a taime when i was a lot younger and out clubbing. I had had quite a bit to drink and wasstanding at the bar gazing into the distance. As my eyes began to focus i could see some girl (slightly familiar)
looking at me across the bar and her stare seemed to me to be inappropriately long and intrusive. i thought
to myself "Who the hell is that rude woman and why is she staring at me?"After a momentary eye to eye standoff it suddenly dawned on me that actually i was glaring at myself, at myown reflection in a mirror across the bar.

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Matrika Matters
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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #14 - on: 10.07.2011 at 06:04 [UT+1] »Thanks Vivisha, you made my day! And profoundly true too at least in my personal experience.

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Ex Member« Reply #15 - on: 12.07.2011 at 00:23 [UT+1] »I have D m E as the apex of a tight T square. Squared by my Moon Chiron conjunction on one end, Uranus on
the other. I have managed to satisfy my Mars by volunteering for jobs that require an eye for detail, (Ivolunteer at the local library twice a week arranging books according to the dewey decimal system) & I edit an
website (not getting paid yet, so I'm still a volunteer, though not for too much longer).
I still haven't figured out to manage my Venus though.
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Lukiftian
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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #16 - on: 12.07.2011 at 01:34 [UT+1] »Quote from nameinuse on 07.07.2011 at 03:51 [UT+1]:
Maybe out of place was a poor choice of words. Personal planets that every aspect to them would be either a square, opposition or no
aspect in relation to

ABCDEF and ascendant.

An example would be having:

AoE
BnE
DoE
En ascand E having no aspect to CF
this would put

E in a position of having no positive aspects to any personal planets.

What I am asking with reference the above example, how wouldabout

E being in such a position impact on a person? The same would be said

ABCDEF in the same type of scenario.

You have to stop making value judgements on aspects.
I have CoE- it makes me a fast talker and a good salesman
BmG You develop a wry sense of humour with this one, you have to when you're breaking zits at 45.

BoI My mother taught me everything she didn't know. Like cooking. And the dreams! CGI has nothing on
them.

BoD Writing ability among other talents I'd get banned for discussing here.
DmI Artist! Writer!
DoG Sculpting ability, and the ability to make money off my art, if I make the effort.
FnO and J Sure I'm a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but as this is on my Asc it's also made me attractive tothe opposite sex

GoI well, the cover said Steal This Book. So I stole it (well, downloaded it). Good scientific mind, and asurvivor.
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Re: Planets That Are Out Of Place In A Chart« Reply #17 - on: 12.07.2011 at 03:14 [UT+1] »What? B o D makes for a writer??? I'm curious, as I also have that aspect & am no good at writing, though I
can spell (99.99% of the time anyway). But one would hope so with a c B.

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