Minutes of the ICNDT GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEETING
Thursday, 10 June 2010

Moscow, Russia
1.

Welcome and confirmation of Quorum
Dr Mike Farley opened the meeting and thanked all for their continued
participation throughout the duration of the Conference. He wished tocongratulate Mr Tony Sonneveld on the award of his Order of Australia Medal(OAM).

2.

Memoriam
Dr Farley recorded with regret the recent death of Dr Nadezhda Birjukova,
Head of CertiNK, the Russian NDT Personnel Certification Body.

3.

Membership, roll call and voting rules
Attendance List
Jorge Amsler
ARGENTINA
Anthony Sonneveld
AUSTRALIADavid Barnett
AUSTRALIAJohn Maccarone
AUSTRALIA
Gerhard Aufricht
AUSTRIA
Hugo Eberhardt
AUSTRIA
Günter Balas
AUSTRIA
Sabiz Mammadov
AZERBAIJAN
Nikolai Migoun
BELARUS
Alexander Skoulev
BELARUS
Joao Antonio ConteBRAZIL
Luiz Cesar De Almeida BRAZIL
Mitko Mihovski
BULGARIA
Bojana Talakova
BULGARIA
Douglas Marshall
CANADA
Sharon BondCANADA
Gongtian Shen
CHINA
Vjera Krstelj
CROATIAN Krnic
CROATIA
Pavel Mazal
CZECH REPUBLIC
Torben Lund
DENMARKF Delfini
FRANCEP Fallouey
FRANCE
Mathias Purschke
GERMANY

Voting: Yes/No
YES
NOGen Sec
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NO
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1Jutta Koehn
Rolf Diedrichs
Ionnis Prassianakis
Samir K Choksi
K Thambithurai
B Venkatraman
Giuseppe Nardoni
Antonello Porco
Ezio Tuberosa
T KishiHajime Hatano
Svetlana Stragnefors
Yermakov Yevgeniy
Valory Kozhazinov
Bassam Frenn
Tarek El-Hakim
Abd Nassir Ibrahim
Alfonso Garcia Cueto
Adrej Tkachenko
Magdalena Maj
Pedor Vilaca
Vladimir Klyuev
Irena Pushkina
Sajeesh Kumar Babu
Erich Eckhardt
Janez Grum
Manfred Johannes
Emilio Romero
Jesus Sorrano
Ferid Herelli
C Hakan GürVladimir Troitskiy
Vitalij Radku
Mike Farley
John Thompson
David Gilbert
Wayne Holliday
Ricky L Morgan
Elena Azizova
Apologies
Rong GengPeter Trampus
Baldev Raj
Matt Gallagher

GERMANYGERMANYGREECE
INDIA
INDIA
INDIA
ITALY
ITALY
ITALY
JAPAN
JAPAN
KAZAKHSTANKAZAKHSTANLATVIALEBANONLEBANON
MALAYSIAMEXICOMOLDOVAPOLANDPORTUGALRUSSIARUSSIASINGAPORESLOVAKIASLOVENIA
SOUTH AFRICA
SPAIN
SPAIN
TUNISIA
TURKEYUKRAINE
UKRAINE
UNITED KINGDOMUNITED KINGDOMUNITED KINGDOMUSAUSAUZBEKISTAN

NO
NO
YES
NO
NO
YES
NO
YES
NO
YES
NO (ISOTC135 rep)
NO
NO
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
NO
ChairmanYESNO - Minute Secretary
YES
NO
NO

CHINA
HUNGARY
INDIA
UNITED KINGDOMThe General Secretary reminded members of the procedure for voting. One
voting delegate is permitted per member society. 33% of membership was
required for quorum and only 1 proxy was permitted per member country
present. A simple majority was required.
(Note: changes to Constitution/Terms of Reference require 6 months noticeand positive vote of two-thirds of those present).
A quorum was achieved.
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4.

Approval of Minutes of 32nd and 33rd Meetings in Shanghai 2008 andnote minutes of PGP in Yokohama
The minutes of the 32nd and 33rd meetings were approved and those of the
PGP meeting that took place in Yokohama in November 2009 were not

5.

Presentation and approval of the Annual Report for 2009
The General Secretary presented the 2009 Annual Report and copies were
circulated. He said that a number of milestones had been achieved during theyear, not least the development of a Strategic Plan. He recommended thatthose present approve the Annual Report and his proposal was unanimously
accepted.

6.

Strategic Plan
Dr Farley presented the Strategic Plan and explained the Action Plans
associated with it.

7.

Presentation of Financial Report for 2009
Mr Aufricht went through the financial report for 2009, presented in the Annual
Report. He recorded gratitude to the Chinese Society for NDT and the Austrian
Chamber of Commerce for their donations.

8.

Report by the Auditors
The auditors, Messrs Delfini and Maccarone, reported that they had examined
the financial report for 2009 and found it satisfactory.

9.

Approval of Financial Report
The recommendation of the treasurer and auditors that those present approvethe 2009 Financial Report was unanimously accepted.

10.

Approval of new Operating Procedure (OP16)
Dr Farley explained the background and stated that the PGP Committee had
given its approval to the introduction of membership fees commencing January
2011 as detailed in the Operating Procedure OP16. After a question withregard to lapsing was answered – re: point no. 7 in the OP:“If any fee is not paid after two written reminders (e.g. by e-mail), the General
Secretary is authorised to exclude the member from ICNDT membership”,
the motion to adopt the Operating Procedure was put to the vote. The results
were as follows: For – 20; Against – 0; Abstentions – 0.
The motion was passed.

11.

Membership fees for 2010 and 2011
In accordance with the Operating Procedure OP16, membership fees will be
introduced 1 January 2011 and the fees for 2011 will be as follows:250 for full members;
100 for associate members.
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12.

Presentation of Budget for 2010 and 2011
Mr Aufricht presented the budgets for 2010 and 2011, the latter showing aprovision for membership fees.

13.

Approval of Budgets
The Chairman recommended that those present approve the Budgets and on
both counts his proposal was unanimously accepted.

14.

Membership
Mr Conte reported that the applications from Hungary (MAROVISZ),
Singapore (NDT Society (Singapore)) and Uzbekistan were deemed
acceptable in terms of the Constitution and the General Assembly thus
approved these. He also mentioned that an application had been received fromthe Iranian Institute of Welding & NDT and this was under consideration.
The General Assembly was closed at this point and the 34th ICNDT Meeting
commenced immediately.

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4Minutes of the 34th MEETING of the ICNDT
Thursday, 10 June 2010

Moscow, Russia
This meeting followed on immediately after the General Assembly Meeting and
the Agenda items are numbered accordingly.
Attendance List
Voting: Yes/No
Jorge Amsler
ARGENTINA YES
Anthony Sonneveld
AUSTRALIA NO
David Barnett
AUSTRALIAJohn Maccarone
AUSTRALIA
Gerhard Aufricht
AUSTRIA
Hugo Eberhardt
AUSTRIA
Günter Balas
AUSTRIA
Sabiz Mammadov
AZERBAIJAN
Nikolai Migoun
BELARUS
Alexander Skoulev
BELARUS
Joao Antonio ConteBRAZIL
Luiz Cesar De Almeida BRAZIL
Mitko Mihovski
BULGARIA
Bojana Talakova
BULGARIA
Douglas Marshall
CANADA
Sharon BondCANADA
Gongtian Shen
CHINA
Vjera Krstelj
CROATIAN Krnic
CROATIA
Pavel Mazal
CZECH REPUBLIC
Torben Lund
DENMARKF Delfini
FRANCEP Fallouey
FRANCE
Mathias Purschke
GERMANY
Jutta Koehn
GERMANY
Rolf Diedrichs
GERMANY
Ionnis Prassianakis
GREECE
Samir K Choksi
INDIA
K Thambithurai
INDIA
B Venkatraman
INDIA
Giuseppe Nardoni
ITALY
Antonello Porco
ITALY
Ezio Tuberosa
ITALY
T KishiJAPAN

Gen Sec
YES
YES
NO
NO
NO
YES
NO
YES
NO
YES
NO
YES
NO
YES
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
NO
NO
YES
NO
NO
YES
NO
YES
NO
YES

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1Hajime Hatano
Svetlana Stragnefors
Yermakov Yevgeniy
Valory Kozhazinov
Bassam Frenn
Tarek El-Hakim
Abd Nassir Ibrahim
Alfonso Garcia Cueto
Adrej Tkachenko
Magdalena Maj
Pedor Vilaca
Vladimir Klyuev
Irena Pushkina
Sajeesh Kumar Babu
Erich Eckhardt
Janez Grum
Manfred Johannes
Emilio Romero
Jesus Sorrano
Ferid Herelli
C Hakan GürVladimir Troitskiy
Vitalij Radku
Mike Farley
John Thompson
David Gilbert
Wayne Holliday
Ricky L Morgan
Elena Azizova
Apologies
Rong GengPeter Trampus
Baldev Raj
Matt Gallagher

JAPAN
KAZAKHSTANKAZAKHSTANLATVIALEBANONLEBANON
MALAYSIAMEXICOMOLDOVAPOLANDPORTUGALRUSSIARUSSIASINGAPORESLOVAKIASLOVENIA
SOUTH AFRICA
SPAIN
SPAIN
TUNISIA
TURKEYUKRAINE
UKRAINE
UNITED KINGDOMUNITED KINGDOMUNITED KINGDOMUSAUSAUZBEKISTANNO (ISOTC135 rep)
NO
NO
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
NO
YES
YES
YES
NO
ChairmanYESNO - Minute Secretary
YES
NO
NO

CHINA
HUNGARY
INDIA
UNITED KINGDOMThe General Secretary reminded members of the procedure for voting. One
voting delegate is permitted per member society. 33% of membership was
required for quorum and only 1 proxy was permitted per member country
present. A simple majority was required.
(Note: changes to Constitution/Terms of Reference require 6 months noticeand positive vote of two-thirds of those present).
A quorum was achieved.

15.

Approval of new Operating Procedures OP12,13,14,15
Dr Farley stated that the new Operating Procedures OP12: Annual Report andAccounts, OP13: Use of ICNDT Logo and OP14: Preparation andOrganisation of WCNDT had been accepted by the PGP Committee and his
proposal to those present to approve these was unanimously accepted.

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He then explained the situation with regard to OP15: Working Groups andCommittees, in that there had not been unanimous acceptance of this within
the PGP Committee. He reported that the Executive Committee at its meetingon 06 June 2010 in Moscow had agreed certain modifications to the Operating
Procedure and a revised version would be put to PGP for its approval.
16.

Introduction to reports of WGs, including reports versus Action Plans
Dr Farley introduced the reports of the Working Groups in the context of the
Action Plans derived from the Strategic Plan.

17.

Membership Committee
Mr Conte presented his report (appended).

18.

Communications/Internet/Journal
Mr Gilbert presented his report (appended).
There was one comment, from Mr Diedrichs, who proposed better
communication between ICNDT and ndt.net.

19.

WG1 Qualifications and Certification
Mr Thompson presented his report (appended).
He requested approval to send out documents to ICNDT members detailing the
proposed procedure for how the Multi-Lateral Agreement (MLA) will beestablished, a business plan for it and suggested workflows. The aim was todistribute these documents for discussion and invite comments which when
received would be considered and where appropriate the documents would
then be modified prior to referral to the IEC.
It was agreed that a motion was not required to send out the documents to
ICNDT members.
Mr Fallouey asked if the IAF should be liaised with on the matter andMr Thompson replied that this was indeed the case via Mr Zirnhelt.
Another point was raised that in the Asia Pacific region the IAEA is working
towards and MLA and efforts should be coordinated. Mr Barnett responded bystating that 16 member countries of the IAEA Regional Cooperation Agreement(IAEA/RCA) for SE Asia are signatories to a document promoting theharmonisation of certification schemes to ISO 17024. He acknowledged theimportance of maintaining dialogue between ICNDT and IAEA on these issues.
Dr Farley referred to the work being carried out within EFNDT and said thatfurther work was required within WG1 to consider other issues such as how todeal with schemes run by governments.
Mr Holliday said that the Asia Pacific region had discussed the matter at its
meeting in Yokohama.

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20.

WG3 Research and Education
Dr Venkataraman presented his report.

21.

Confirmation of Committee/ working group Chairs/membership
Dr Farley explained the procedure for appointing WG/Committee chairs. These
were appointed for 4 years with the potential for being reviewed after two
years.
He proposed that all WG and Committee Chairs be re-appointed for a further 4
years subject to the above and this was unanimously approved.

22.

Progress report from 18th World Conference in Durban, South Africa
16-20 April 2012
Mr Johannes presented his progress report, detailing the themes and topics.
Some 1200 delegates were expected, potentially from more than 65 countries,
as there were 20 countries in Africa alone. The Call for Papers was soon to beissued and the exhibition was open for bookings.

23.

Opportunity for comments by Members
Dr Venkataraman suggested the WCNDT organisers consider ‘Industry Meet’and ‘Young Researchers’ sessions similar to the ones successfully held at the
New Delhi World Conference in 1996.

24.

Regional Group Reports
24.1 Asia Pacific
Dr Venkataraman presented his report.
24.2 Pan America
Messrs Conte, Cueto and Holliday presented their reports.
24.3 Europe
Professor Krstelj presented her report.
24.4 Africa
Mr Herelli presented his report.

25.

Associated Bodies
25.1 ISOProf Hajime Hatano presented his reports (appended: TC135 and TC135 WG3).
Dr Farley thanked Professor Hatano for his report and for the progress made.
Mr Fallouey agreed and expressed his wish that harmonisation of thestandards happens soon.
25.2 IAEA
Dr Farley referred to the document that had been produced and discussed
plans to present this to the IAEA.
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25.3 IIW
In the absence of Dr Baldev Raj there was nothing to report
26.

Other business and Close of Meeting
The Chairman then thanked all for attendance and he also thanked everyone
for all the voluntary work carried out on behalf of ICNDT.
Mr Eberhardt, on behalf of the Austrian Society, thanked Professor Klyuev and
RSNTTD for their hosting the meetings and conference.
Ms Yevgeniy from Kazakhstan introduced herself and thanked everyone for theopportunity to be present.
Finally, Dr Farley thanked Professor Klyuev and extended hearty
congratulations to RSNTTD for organising a very successful 10th ECNDT. He
also took the opportunity to send greetings to ICNDT members and honorary
members who were unable to attend.
He then closed the meeting.

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ICNDT MEMBERSHIP COMMITTEE REPORT TO THE ICNDTGENERAL ASSEMBLY
MOSCOW, 9TH JUNE 2010.
WG TITLE: ICNDT Membership Committee

CHAIRMAN/CONVENER: João Antonio Conte
Executive Director of ABENDI – Brazilian Society of Non Destructive Testing and Inspection.
E-mail: joao.conte@abendi.org.br
Phone: 55 11 5586-3184
WG MEMBERS:
E. Romero (AEND/Spain)
W. Holliday (ASNT/USA)
J. Maccarone (AINDT/Australia)
V.V. Klyuev (RSNTTD/Russia)

DATES & LOCATIONS OF MEETINGS HELD: No formal meetings were held

The focus of the Working Group is to develop actions to:
a)
b)
c)
d)
e)
f)

Support the foundation of national NDT societies
Attract societies or national institutions of NDT to the ICNDTSupport websites creation to national societies
Establish rules for members affiliation to the ICNDTKeep the ICNDT directory of national societies updated
Participate on NDT events around the world, disseminating the ICNDT activities

PROGRESS REPORT
a)
b)

c)
d)

Analysis of the process of affiliation of Singapore NDT Society to the ICNDT
Analysis of the process of affiliation to the ICNDT of the following institutions: Uzbekistan Society for NDT
 Iranian Institute of Welding and NDT Hungarian Association for NDT
Elaboration of the ICNDT Operating Procedure: “Membership Rules”
ICNDT NDT Society Directory update

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APPENDIX: WG# ACTION PLAN
(Developed from ICNDT approved Strategic Plan)

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ICNDT WG2 REPORT TO THE ICNDT GENERAL ASSEMBLY
MOSCOW, 10TH JUNE 2010
WG TITLE
Communications
CHAIRMAN/CONVENERDavid Gilbert
WG MEMBERS
Sharon Bond (Canadian Institute of NDE), Stefan Cullmann (German Society for
NDT), Douglas Marshall (Canadian Institute of NDE), David Gilbert (British Institute of
NDT).
DATES & LOCATIONS OF MEETINGS HELD
None to date.

PROGRESS REPORT
1. Website
The ICNDT website is the subject of continuous review. The main focus of activities atpresent is to make it more user-friendly and in particular to ease navigation.
This process has begun and users who have logged-in may have noticed for example thatmost documents are now accessible through the ‘Document Store’ in easily identifiable
folders. All those who have not yet registered on the website will be registered in due course.
Action Plan 2 of the Strategic Plan presents details of specific areas for development.
Specifically, item no. 4 in the Strategic Plan: ‘Build on progress to date and establish an
upgraded website, linked to members websites, to provide an intelligent NDT information
portal’ is the focus of our current attention.
With reference to the Strategic Plan, Action Plan 1: Support for Societies, a website shell
scheme for new NDT societies is under consideration.
2. Journal
The ICNDT Journal continues to be published regularly and be well received. It is planned to
publish three issues again next year, in March, June and September. The corresponding
deadlines will be end-January for March, end-April for June and end-July for September.
In terms of development of the Journal and with reference to the Strategic Plan, Action Plan
1: Support for Societies, it is planned to introduce a coordinated series of articles for the
Journal covering individual societies’ activities and developments.

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APPENDIX: ACTION PLAN 2: PROMOTION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF NDT•Wider promotion of existing videos (JSNDI, ASNT, BINDT….) via website•

Create award for best published case study on the value of NDT – needs discussion•

Plan more proactive involvement in key external organisations (ISO, IIW, IAEA,
CEOC International) and with other groupings of NDT societies (AFNDT, ….. ).
o

ISO – seek liaison membership of TC135

o

IIW

o

IAEA – Review IAEA’s activities and planso

CEOC International•

Build on progress to date and establish an upgraded website, linked to members
websites, to provide an intelligent NDT information portal.

•

Wikipedia - ensure quality input and links to “approved” sites•

English•Other languages•

Seek volunteer “champions” via ICNDT Journal and website•

Add NDT and Diagnostic Technologies as a strap line to our letterhead – needs
discussion•

Prepare a Guide on NDT for risk-based inspection - needs further discussion

REF. ACTION PLAN 1: SUPPORT NDT SOCIETIES•Articles on Societies activities and development for ICNDT Journal•

ICNDT promotional leaflet similar to EFNDT one•

ICNDT to provide a website shell scheme for new NDT societies

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ICNDT WG1 REPORT TO THE ICNDT GENERAL ASSEMBLY
MOSCOW, 9TH JUNE 2010
WG TITLE
Qualification, Certification & Accreditation
CHAIRMAN/CONVENERJohn Thompson
WG MEMBERS
Mohd Maqbool Ahmed (Qatar University), Hugh Neeson (South African Institute of
NDT), Sajeesh Kumar Babu (NDT Society of Singapore), Geng Rong Sheng (Chinese
Society for NDT), Norikazu Ooka (Japanese Society for NDI), David Barnett(Australian Institute of NDT), Rodolfo RodrÍguez (Spanish Society for NDT),
Alexander Mullin (Russian Society for NDT), Gerhard Aufricht (Austrian Society for
NDT), Matthias Purschke (German Society for NDT), João Rufino Teles Filho(Brazilian Society for NDT), John Zirnhelt (Canadian Institute of NDE), Ron Nisbet(American Society for NDT), Francesco Delfini (French Society for NDT) and John
Thompson (British Institute of NDT).
DATES & LOCATIONS OF MEETINGS HELD
9th November 2009, Yokohama, Japan (13th APCNDT)PROGRESS REPORTThe focus of the WG is to address all of the actions listed in Appendix 1 with a view tocompleting as many as possible by the time of the 18th WCNDT in Durban, Republic of South
Africa, April 2012. The WG has to date held just one physical meeting, but has madeconsiderable progress through e-mail exchanges in most items in its action plan. Noteworthy
progress has been achieved in the following areas.
Establishing lines of active communication with ICNDT member societies, ISO TC135 and
CEN TC138, the International accreditation Forum, ASME and ISO/CASCO, with WG
members attending meetings of all organisations, making positive contributions on
qualification, certification and accreditation matters.
Completing surveys of ICNDT members on the status of qualification and certification
arrangements in their countries, the establishment of ICNDT question banks, multilateralagreements on recognition, and the ICNDT assessment and approval of personnel
certification schemes. Development of system documentation in support of the foregoing andsubmitting same to the ICNDT review and approval system.
Arranging a forum on qualification and certification matters at the 10th ECNDT in Moscow.
Future WG1 meetings are scheduled for September 2010 (Vienna, Austria), and November
2010 (Houston, USA).

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APPENDIX 1: WG1 ACTION PLAN
1. Establish lines of communication with Qualification and Certification group(s) in
ICNDT regions (Africa, Europe, America, Asia) with a view to co-ordination ofactivities.
2. Establish liaisons with ISO TC 135, the International Accreditation Forum, theAmerican Society of Mechanical Engineers and ISO/CASCO.
3. Create a directory of NDT personnel certification bodies, with scopes of compliance,
numbers of persons certificated and certificates issued, etc., maintaining this up-todate.
4. Offer guidance to developing countries seeking to establish national certification
schemes – listing merits of co-operation with established Certification Bodies.
5. Plan and organise a regular (annual or biennial) forum on qualification andcertification topics, inviting guest speakers with specialist knowledge/experience.
6. Provide new and interesting material on qualification and certification in order to keep
the ICNDT website updated.
7. Establish process for qualification and certification of personnel when ‘introducing
new NDT methods and techniques’.
8. Maintain and extend the content of the ICNDT Guide to implementation of ISO 9712.
9. Make recommendations to Standards Bodies ISO, CEN and ANSI, urging them toharmonise their standards for third party certification.
10. Share experiences on development and operation of multilateral agreements onrecognition of personnel certification.
11. Survey ICNDT membership on a possible ICNDT initiative to achieve global
multilateral recognition of certification through an ICNDT multilateral agreement(MLA), supported by an optional ICNDT system for peer assessment and approval of
NDT personnel certification bodies.
12. Survey ICNDT members on their perception of the need for an English language
question bank of multi-choice answer questions.
13. Consider whether the ISO/CEN TR25108 Training Syllabuses should be a normativereference in revised ISO 9712, as well as IAEA Techdoc and CP106, making
recommendations to ISO TC135 WG.

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