5th INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE
ON NON DESTRUCTIVE TESTINGCanada 1967
May 21, 1967
5th MEETING OF INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE

Minutes of the Fifth Meeting of the International Committee held on Sunday, 21stMay, 1967 at 2:00 p.m. at the Mount Royal Hotel, Montreal, Canada.
The following delegates were present:
Mr. W.E. Havercroft
Mr. R.D. Barer
Mr. E.T. Watterud
Prof. Dr. G. Homes
Dr. R.H. Seifert
Mr. C.C. Bates
Mr. W.C. Heselwood
Dr. F. Baldi
Prof. Dr. H. Kihara
Mr. A. de Sterke
Prof. Dr. I. Malecki
Dr. Z. Pawlowski
Mr. P. Scribante
Mr. H. Swedenborg
Mr. R.B. Socky
Dr. G.H. Tenney

Canada(Chairman)
Canada(Vice-Chairman)
Canada(Secretary)
Belgium
Germany
Great Britain
Great Britain
Italy
Japan
Netherlands
PolandPoland
South Africa
SwedenU. S. A.
U. S. A.

1. Apologies for Absence
The Chairman reported that apologies for absence from the meeting had
been received from Dr. E. Krainer (Austria) who had nominated Dr. Seifert torepresent him; H. Vinter (Denmark), J. Salokongas (Finland), Dr. M. de Miro(Spain) and R. Hornung (Switzerland). Prof. Moravia had been prevented byillness from attending and had asked that Dr. Baldi act in his place. TheCommittee endorsed a suggestion by Dr. Tenney that a note of regret at Prof.
Moravia’s absence and wishes for his recovery be signed by all members inattendance, and forwarded to him.

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The meeting expressed sincere regret at the announcement by theChairman of the recent death of Mr. Pemberton of Great Britain. Mr. Pemberton
was President of the Fourth Conference in London.
2. Minutes of Previous Meeting
The Minutes of the two meetings of the Committee held on 10 Septemberand 13 September in London, were adopted.
3. Terms of Reference
The Chairman reported that a Working Group composed of himself, Dr.
Tenney, Dr. Seifert, Prof. Malecki and Dr. Mullins had developed draft No. 4 of
the Terms of Reference for the Committee, based on Draft No.3 that wasadopted at the London Conference. Copies of Draft No.4 had been submitted tothe Committee for comment in July 1966, with the result that official approval had
been expressed by seven member countries and no indication of disapproval had
been received.
At the suggestion of Dr. Tenney the draft was given a general review.
This resulted in agreement on a change in the title of Clause 3 from “Object” to“Objectives” and a corresponding change in Clause 3.1. Dr. Tenney suggested
standardization of the spelling of term “nondestructive”. After some discussion
the Committee agreed, on a motion by Dr. Tenney, seconded by Prof. Malecki, toaccept the one-word spelling of the term. This decision would be reflected inappropriate changes throughout the draft.
Mr. Bates recommended that, since the draft had been provided to allmembers some months earlier, giving them ample time for consideration, itsadoption should be resolved at this meeting. This was agreed and, on a motion
by Mr. Bates, seconded by Mr. De Sterke, Draft No. 4 was adopted, subject tothe editorial changes recorded above.
Dr. Tenney expressed the congratulations of the Committee to theChairman for his leadership in pushing development of the Terms of Reference
through to successful completion.
4. Venue for Sixth Conference
The Chairman read a letter from Dr. Seifert confirming the offer made atthe London Conference that Germany would be pleased to host the Sixth
Conference in 1970. Dr. Seifert supported his written invitation with a verbal
statement pointing out that 1970 is an appropriate year in that it will be the 75th
Anniversary of Roentgen’s discovery of X-Rays. He indicated that theConference would be planned for May, probably in Berlin.
Dr. Seifert’s invitation was greeted with favour and enthusiasm. Prof.
Malecki noted the possibility of difficulties, from a political point of view, inarranging for delegates from some countries into West Berlin.

26Dr. Seifert stated that this possibility had been recognized, but expressed
the hope that the choice of Berlin would pose no problem politically, since the city
had much to commend it as the site for a nondestructive testing conference. Itwas agreed that the final choice of the site in Germany must be left to thediscretion of Dr. Seifert and his colleagues according to the circumstances
encountered at the time. The Committee agreed unanimously on a motion byMr. Barer, seconded by Dr. Tenney, that the next conference by held in Germanyin 1970.
5. Invitation for Seventh Conference
The Chairman recalled that tentative invitations had been advanced byboth Poland and France for future conferences. Prof. Malecki confirmed
Poland’s willingness to host a conference in 1973, but suggested that the matterbe discussed at the meeting on Thursday when, it was hoped, Prof. Azou ofFrance would be present.
6. Membership Changes
The Chairman noted two changes in membership of the Committee since
the London meetings. Mr. P. Scribante had replaced Mr. A. Middlecote as therepresentative of South Africa, and Mr. J.C. Walter was the new member from
Norway, replacing Mr. A. Markestad.
The Chairman reported also that interest has been expressed incommittee membership by Argentine, Australia, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary.
A tentative request in writing from Australia would be raised for consideration onThursday.
Dr. Tenney reported that Yugoslavia also has indicated an interest in
joining the Committee. He thought that a formal request could be expected fromthat country shortly.
The meeting agreed with Dr. Seifert and Dr. Tenney that additions to theCommittee membership should be encouraged, and promised a favourable
reception to all membership requests that fulfil the conditions outlined in theTerms of Reference.
7. Information Dissemination
The Chairman invited general discussion on proposals advanced atvarious times in the past for particular activities that might be pursued by theCommittee. Included amongst these were such items as the establishment ofspecific work projects, development of multilingual glossary of NDT terms, andexchange of information amongst member countries, as recommended at theLondon meetings, had not been effectively carried forward.
Mr. Bates reported on the formation of the Research Centre, set up in theUnited Kingdom, which would include an information and documentation service27

on nondestructive testing, and proposed that this might be used by members of
the International Committee as a facility for exchange of information.
Dr. Seifert thought that member countries should participate more actively
in the exchange and circulation of reports on nondestructive testing. He
promised to call for such reports from members on a regular basis during theperiod leading to the next conference.
Dr. Tenney agreed that dissemination of the rapidly growing body ofknowledge in nondestructive testing is most desirable. He recommended thedistribution to all member countries of the journals of national societies as one
means of furthering circulation of information.
Prof. Malecki referred to the program being pursued by UNESCO on theproblem of information dissemination. He recommended that the International
Committee keep in touch with this activity.
Prof. Homes pointed out the problem created by the tremendous amountof data and information that is being developed. He stressed the importance ofbeing selective in the quality and kind of information distributed.
Mr. De Sterke stated that the International Institute of Welding has
undertaken to establish liaison with the organizers of future conferences on
nondestructive testing, and noted that this would have the effect of bringing all
pertinent IIW documentation to the attention of Committee members.
In closing the discussion on the topic of information distribution, theChairman expressed the hope that the opinions and ideas advanced would prove
useful to Dr. Seifert and his colleagues in their plans and preparations for theSixth Conference.
8. New Business
The Chairman invited discussion on a proposal that had been submitted toeach of the members by Mr. L.E. Baxter concerning his establishment of an
information distribution and international secretariat service. The Chairman
noted that this proposal was an independent and personal effort on the part ofMr. Baxter, who felt that this service would prove beneficial to member countries
in providing for the dissemination of information from a central agency.
Prof. Homes, Mr. Bates, Mr. De Sterke and Prof. Malecki, in turn, statedgeneral opposition to the principle and philosophy of Mr. Baxter’s proposal. TheCommittee concurred with these views and, though expressing appreciation ofMr. Baxter’s proposal, agreed that formation of an international secretariat was
not desirable at this time. The Chairman undertook to notify Mr. Baxter of theCommittee’s reaction.
The meeting adjourned at 4:30 p.m. to reconvene on Thursday, 25 May.

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