NINTH WORLD CONFERENCE
ON NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING
13TH MEETING OF INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEEMINUTES OF THE 13TH INTERNATIONAL MEETING
November 18, 1979
MEMBERS
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Burma
CanadaCzechoslovakia
Denmark
FinlandFranceGermany
Great Britain
Hungary

India
IsraelItaly
Japan
Netherlands
NorwayPolandSouth Africa
Spain
SwedenSwitzerland
USSR
USA
Yugoslavia

1. List of Attendants
Heard, L.S.
Fifer, D.
Goldfinch, T.E.
De Meester, P.
Bowe, E.
Genevray, R.
Evrard, M.
Kopineck, H.J.
Schaper, H.
Stanger, C.H.
Sharpe, R.S.
Singhania, O.P.
Niwa, N.
Onoe, M.
Eering, J.
Drabble, J.
Whitehurst, J.D.
Walter, J.C.
Pawlowski, Z.

Australia, President
Australia
Australia
Belgium
CanadaFranceFranceGermany
Germany
Great Britain
Great Britain
India
Japan
Japan
Netherlands
New Zealand
New Zealand
NorwayPoland65

Mottl, J.
Holmgren, B.
Mikheev, M.N.
Kljuev, V.V.
Kitson, W.J.
Bobbin, J.
Fertilio, A.
Bozicek, Mrs. B.

PolandSwedenU.S.S.R
U.S.S.R
U.S.A
U.S.A
Yugoslavia
Yugoslavia

2. President’s Welcome
The President welcomed ICNDT delegates to Australia and wished theman enjoyable and profitable visit. He especially welcomed Messrs. Drabble andWhitehurst who are New Zealand’s first representatives following the unanimouselection of New Zealand to the Committee by postal vote.
Professor Chungfu Ying and Professor S.M. Brisighello were also
welcomed. They were attending as observers from China and Brazil
respectively.
3. Changes in Delegations
The list of delegates appears above. A letter from Austria advised thatneither Austria delegate would be attending and appointed Professor Kopineck toexercise the Austrian vote.
4. Approval of the Minutes of the 12th Meeting held in Cannes on
September 10, 1976
The minutes of the 12th Meeting were adopted, subject to the following
additions to the list of delegates present:
Pawlowski, Z.
Niwa, N.
Saito, S.
Schaper, H.
Shelton, R.
Goldfinch, T.E.

PolandJapanJapan
Germany
Australia
Australia

5. Report on the activity of the International Committee since the 8thConference
The President reported that as one would expect, the main activity of theInternational Committee had been the organization of the 9th Conference.
In addition, ICNDT officers had participated in the European Conference inMainz, the Pan-Pacific Conference in Seoul and two ASNT national conferences.
At the Mainz conference Mr. Fifer (Vice President) had presented Certificates of66

Distinction to Prof. Dr. Georges A. Homes of Belgium and Prof. Dr. Otto Vaupelof Germany. These had been awarded in 1976 by the ICNDT.
The two ICNDT Working Groups had met and reports would be presentedto the Committee.
Three Information Bulletins had been published. Insufficient material had
been provided by members to allow the publication of two each year.
Mr. Stanger said that the British Committee considered that Certificates ofDistinction should only be presented at World Conferences and that thepresentation in Mainz should not create a precedence.
Professor Kopineck reported that the 1978 European Conference which
was the first organized on a European regional basis, had been a great success.
There were about 1000 participants, one third from abroad, and 33 of the 92
papers came from abroad. Papers and discussions were translated
simultaneously into German, English, and French. The DGZIP had beenhonoured by the President’s decision to present the Certificates of Distinction atthe Mainz Conference.
Professor Kopineck announced that the 2nd European Conference will beheld in Vienna, Austria September 14 to 16 1981.
6. Consideration of proposed changes to ICNDT Terms of Reference
The changes proposed by the Working Group of the President and three
past Presidents (Professors Bastien, Hauk and Pawlowski) were considereditem by item. The numerals and wording refer to Sections and Classes in the1976 Terms of Reference.
Mr. Stanger said that the U.K objected to only one of the proposedchanges but said that they seemed to be changed merely for sake of change.
(I)
Clause 1.2
The Committee accepted by 9 votes to 1, the following change to 1.2.
“1.2. In the present state of knowledge the following methods ofnondestructive testing are included:a) radiation transmissionb) ultrasonicc) eddy currentd) electric and magnetice) liquid penetrantf) visual and opticalg) determination of physical and technological propertiesh) acoustic emission
This list is not intended to be exclusive, but indicative of the nature of tests
involved.”
Prof. Pawlowski said that in the near future a more general definition may
be more appropriate and that this should be discussed with ISO TC 135.
(II)
Section 2
The Committee agreed by 9 votes to 1 that the number of countries now67

represented was large enough for the name to be changed to “WorldCommittee” the new wording to be:“2. Name
The organization shall be known as the World Committee for
Nondestructive Testing. The abbreviation “World Committee” used below will betaken to refer to this organization.”(III)
Clause 3.2.3
The Committee agreed unanimously that an improved wording would be:“3.2.3. Encourage the formation of national organizations on
nondestructive testing so that accredited national representatives to thisCommittee can be appointed.”(IV) Clause 4.2
During this discussion it was agreed that the clause needed rewording to
make it clear that if a country appointed a proxy he may, but need not, come fromanother country. Discussion was differed until the 14th Meeting.
(V)
Clause 4.5
The Committee agreed unanimously that an improved wording would be:“4.5. It is desirable in the interests of continuity to retain the same
representatives on the World Committee as long as possible. However,countries may change their representatives provided the President and Secretarycurrently in office are advised in writing by the National Organization concerned
one month prior to the next meeting of the World Committee.”(VI) Clause 5.1
The Committee agreed unanimously that the Immediate Past President
should be an ex officio member of the World Committee, the new wording to be:“5.1. The officers of the World Committee shall be a President, two VicePresidents and a Secretary, with the Immediate Past President, ex officio.”(VII) Clause 5.2
The Committee agreed unanimously that an improved wording would be:“5.2. The officers of the World Committee shall be appointed by thecountry that will host and organize the next World Conference, in accordancewith the following:
5.2.1. The President, one Vice-President and the Secretary shall be from,and located in, the host country.
5.2.2. The other Vice-President need not be from the host country.”(VIII) Clause 6.1.2.
After considerable discussion as to whether a member of a former
Organizing Committee in addition to the Immediate Past President wasnecessary on the Steering Committee the following amendment to Clause 6.1.2.
was unanimously agreed to:“6.1.2. It is suggested that in addition to the immediate Past President,
another member of a former Conference organizing committee be a member of
the Steering Committee in order to benefit from past experiences and to maintaincontinuity between Conferences.”(IX) Section 7. Duties
During the discussion on amendments to the duties of officers Professor

68Pawlowski proposed that the following be included:“The President shall once a year disseminate information containing:-short notes on ICNDT depicting main milestones in the history of NDT (I-2short pages)-Terms of Reference with the addition: Final draft based on agreement
1957, Committee Members 1957-1960, etc.
-list of subsequent Committee members, e.g. Committee members 19541957, Committee Members 1957-1960, etc.
-list of ICNDT Meetings and ICNDT Conferences-Working Groups-list of actual delegates-future planned Conferences.”
After a lot of discussion on the form and function of such a publication it
was agreed to defer a discussion until the 14th Meeting.
The Committee agreed that Section 7 should become:“7 Duties
7.1. President : The President, during his terms of office and with the aidof the Steering Committee, shall organize and conduct the forthcoming World
Conference as directing by the National Organization, or other body responsible
for the Conference. He shall administer all actions of the World Committee.
Twice a year the President shall disseminate information received fromrepresentatives up to one month before.
7.2 Immediate Past President: The duties of the Immediate Past
President shall be to advise the President and perform other such duties asdelegated by the President.
7.3 Vice-Presidents: The duties of the Vice-President shall be as
designated by the President.
7.4 Secretary: In co-operation with the President, the Secretary shall be
responsible for terminating as expeditiously as possible, all activities of theConference, including the publication of the transactions for recording all mattersassociated with the World Committee between meetings: for recording anddistributing minutes of the World Committee meetings held during his term ofoffice. He shall also maintain a register of member countries and the associated
National Organizations recognized by the World Committee, and of the names
and addresses of appointed representatives, voting and nonvoting.”(X)
Clause 9.1
There was considerable discussion on whether the wording needed to berevised. A sub-committee consisting of Mr. Bobbin, Professor De Meester andMr. Goldfinch was appointed to prepare recommendations for the 14th Meeting.
(XI) Clause 9.2
The Committee agreed that with the rapid growth in NDT knowledge
World Conference should not normally be held at intervals exceeding threeyears. The following rewording of clause 9.2 was unanimously agreed to:“9.2 The normal interval between World Conferences under the aegis of
the World Committee shall be three years.”(XII) Clause 9.469

The Committee agreed unanimously to the following additional clause:“9.4 Recommendations for organizing the World Conference as adopted inCannes, France in 1976 shall be followed as closely as possible.”(XIII) Section 12 Official Language
Mr. Genevray objected to the Working Group’s proposed change which
would no longer provide for the optional use of the French language. He said
that the discipline of translation from one language to another in a clearer
understanding of the text. At Professor Pawlowski’s suggestion a decision wasdeferred until the 14th Meeting.
(XIV) Section 13
The Committee unanimously agreed to delete the existing four classes inSection B and insert the following:
13. Procedure for Honouring Member of the World Committee.
13.1 The President, with the accord of the last two Presidents and theapproval of more than half the World Committee, may honour a meritorious
retired or retiring member on the occasion of a meeting of the Committee or onsuch other occasion as he considers appropriate, e.g. a regional conference. (Ina postal ballot for this purpose no answer means abstention)
13.2 The person to be honoured shall have been active through several
conference periods in promoting the objectives of the World Committee
13.3 No fixed type of honour or method of honouring a member need beestablished. Recognition of an award of honour may be by a letter, a diploma, apresent or similar. The honour so bestowed is to be recorded in the minutes ofthe World Committee.
7. Places and Dates of the Next World Conference
The President reminded the Committee of the decision in principle at the12 Meeting that the 10th Conference be held in Moscow in 1982. Professor
Mikheev on behalf of the Academy of Science of the U.S.S.R. renewed theinvitation. The proposed date is August 22-28, 1982. The invitation wasaccepted unanimously. Professor Kopineck wished it to be noted that Germany
voted in favour on the understanding that the U.S.S.R. would not cause any
difficulties for members of the German delegation who are based in West Berlin.
Professor Mikheev gave an assurance that as the 10th World Conference will beconcerned only with technical matters there will be no political complications
such as the one referred to by Professor Kopineck.
Invitations for the 11th and 12th Conferences were then received. Mr.
Bobbin said that in view of the decision in principle of the 12th Meeting to hold the10th Conference in the U.S.S.R., the United States was now offering to hold the11th Conference in 1985. It was expected that Canada would be prepared tobecome a joint host for the Conference.
Professor Niwa issued an offer on behalf of Japan to host the 12thConference in 1988. A World Conference had not been held in Japan since
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Mr. Singhania made an offer on behalf of India for the 11th or 12thConferences. Professor Brisighello also made an offer on behalf of Brazil for the12th or 13th Conferences.
The Committee agreed to give further consideration on future conferencesat the 14th meeting.
8. Consideration of Membership Applications
The Committee considered applications for membership from China andBrazil. Details of the Chinese application were circulated. Professor Brisighello
and the President summarized the details of the Brazilian application andProfessor Brisighello answered questions on the state of NDT in Brazil.
After a brief discussion both China and Brazil were unanimously acceptedfor membership of the Committee.
An application from South Korea had been received and details circulated.
As a Korean representative was expected to attend the 14th Meeting
consideration of the application was held over to that time.
9. Working Group on Training and Certification of NDT Personnel
The Chairman of the Working Group Mr. Granjon was unable to come toAustralia due to ill health. Mr. Young, Secretary, was bringing the Group’s report.
Copies would be available from the Conference Secretariat on Monday 19
November. The report would be considered at the 14th Meeting.
10. Agenda for 14th MeetingMr. Sharpe said that the Committee’s deliberations had always
concentrated on training and certification of personnel. There are other important
aspects of NDT that the Committee should consider. Examples are:1. the desirability of setting up a register of NDT research activities to theagenda for the 14th Meeting
2. coordination of NDT data banks on a world wide basis
It was agreed to add discussion regarding broadening of the Committee’sactivity to the agenda for the 14th Meeting.
11. Miscellaneous
The President announced the arrangements made for the opening
ceremony and for the 14th Meeting of the Committee.
The Meeting closed at 17:00 hours.

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