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NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air­force jets.

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fucks up again Bernd Biedermann Peter Haisenko Ukrainian air force jets fitted with 30mm cannon US State Dept fudging om MH17 blame
ukrainejetsSurface to air missile attack ruled out as calibre of cockpit bullet holes puts
Ukraine pilots in the frame for MH17 murders
This is what a German pilot­cum­air technology expert Peter Haisenko has just publishedon the subject of the MH17 disaster (my emphases):'The misfortune of the Malaysian MH 017 is known to all. The flight recorder is in Englandand is being evaluated. What can come of this?
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this picture is certainly shocking.
Entry And Exit holes from bullets in the area of the Cockpit. This is not speculation, but
analysis of clear facts: the cockpit shows clear evidence of bullet holes. You can see theentry holes and some exit points. The edges of the bullet holes are bent inwards, theseare much smaller and round in shape. A 30mm calibre. The exit holes are less wellformed and the edges are torn outwards.
Furthermore it is visible that the exit holes have torn the double aluminium skin and bent
them outwards. That is to say, splinters from inside the cockpit blew through the outsideof the cabin. The open rivets have also been bent outwards....There is only one

conclusion one can make, and that is that this: the aircraft was not hit by a missile. Thedamage to the aircraft is exclusively in the cockpit area....
Armour­Piercing Ammunition. Russia has published radar data that a Ukranian SU 25 wasclose to MH 017. this corresponds with Spanish air traffic control that two Ukranianfighter aircraft were in directcontact with MH 017. Examine the weaponry of the SU 25: it is fitted out with a 30mm
cannon Type GSch­302 /AO­17A, with 250 rounds of splintering exploding bullets on abelt ­ shrapnel rounds. The cockpit of MH 017 was hit from TWO sides, as there are entry
and exit holes on the same side....'Very compelling stuff, is it not?
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missile:' the shooting down of the Malaysian Boeing on July 17 in the Eastern Ukraine "could nothave been hit by a surface to air defense missile" .
This is the assessment of retired Colonel Bernd Biedermann in an article for the daily
newspaper published in Berlin "new Germany"(Thursday edition). Had splinters from asurface to air missile hit
the plane, it would have immediately caught fire, argues the NVA anti­aircraft missile
specialist. His reasoning is because of the "enormous frictional heat that the splintersgenerate on penetrating
the fuselage. A single splinter contains the same kinetic energy as a 40­ton freight car
hitting the buffers at 60 kilometers per hour." In the case of the Malaysian Boeing,
scattered fires had broken out after the impact with the ground, because hot debris fromthe aircraft had come in contact with combustible materials.
Biedermann is familiar with Soviet and Russian air defense technology, he led units in theduty officer system in East Germany and taught at the Military Academy in the field ofanti­aircraft missile troops.'
Articles are beginning to appear across the Web to the effect that Angela Merkel isdisturbed by (and growing tired of) the incessant US propaganda being emitted in favourof its energy agenda....and so we must perhaps in turn view these articles in the light ofher alleged new agenda concerning the creation of an alternative bloc to that of America.
(More on this here in the near future).
But spin or not, these analyses make sense. The US State Dept has now shifted its
position from 'Russian atrocity' to 'tragic accident'. The above opinions suggest thatneither are true: they suggest strongly that the Ukrainian air force took out MH17.

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