awa life

#268

"TOPPY"
November 2012

mount miune - take a hike!
by matt lindsayI’m sure most of you arefamiliar with Tokushima's
highest mountain, Mount
Tsurugi, otherwise known as
Ken-zan. If you’ve ever hiked
up it I think you’ll agree thatits gentle slope makes it arelatively forgiving peak.
Its nearby sibling, Mt Miune(also known as Sanrei by
our southern neighbours in
Kochi) is a different kettle ofﬁsh.
Oh deer. Can you bear it?
Starting out from the Mt
Miune trailhead at Nagoro
you’ll notice there is a sign
warning hikers of bears andadvising to attach a bell
to your pack. To be honest
though, your chances ofencountering a bear are
pretty slim. In fact yourchances of encountering
any wildlife with a bell
ringing continuously are
rather remote. You may notendear yourself to otherhikers either.

home for the night - the Mt Miune hut(If you’re really worried
about coming across bears
consider arming yourself
with pepper spray as an
acquaintance of mine
does. On a recent camping
trip to Hokkaido he and his
son encountered ﬁve bears
but did not need to use thespray at all.)

While you’re unlikely to see
any bears, the probabilityof seeing deer is quite
high. In fact the ‘Bambi’
population is burgeoning somuch in the mountains thatit has become a problem.
To prevent damage tothe native flora by deer,nets have been erectedmount miune ... con't on page 3

inside awa life this monthpage 3: mount miune con't; page 4: santa claus is coming to town;
page 5: irene's recipe corner; page 6: japanese lesson ;page 8: letter from suketo hoikuin; page 8-12: events & memoranda

1awa life

is a monthly publication of the Tokushima Prefectural International Exchange Association (TOPIA)
Editors:
Emma Boardman & Martin Rathman
Contributors This Month:
Matt Lindsay, Mark Hykes, Takako Yamada, Kazue
Inoue, Irene Wachuga, Junko Kimura

Tokushima Prefectural International
Exchange Association (TOPIA)
Clement Plaza 6F
1-61 Terashima Honcho Nishi
Tokushima City 770-0831 JAPAN
tel: 088.656.3303
fax: 088.652.0616
topia@topia.ne.jp
http://www.topia.ne.jp/
Download a PDF ﬁle of awa life or view theonline version by going to TOPIA's website!

show tokushima some love: awaglotT

he literary corner of
Awa Life, Awaglot, is acombination of the words"awa" and "polyglot", whichmeans multilingual. Be it
fiction, non-fiction, prose
or poetry; funny, sad, longor short, we want yoursubmissions! If you like towrite, then express yourself!
There is also a classifieds
section for you, our readers,to post ads in, but a few
rules do apply!

The following will not be
posted: Religious, political,
or commercial activities,businesses searching forclients or employees, things
the Awa Life editors deem
inappropriate.
BUT, you can totally submit
this stuff: offers to sell or
exchange personal goods,
concerts, lectures, andother event information,
cultural, sporting, andother community group
information, etcetera.

女心と秋の空；A woman's heart, as ﬁckle as the Autumn sky

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If you have something you
would like to share with
the Tokushima community,
email the editors at
awalife@gmail.com!

The Cosmos Flower (photo by Junko Kimura)mount miune ... con't from page 1
either side and tree trunks
have been enclosed withmesh. On the summit
ridge leading towards Mt
Tenguzuka a ‘Texas Gate’
cattle grid bridge has evenbeen erected to deter thedeer from encroaching.
Make Yourself at Home
Standing 1,893 metres tall,
Mt Miune undoubtedlyoffers a challenging hike.
The recommended time tothe summit is three hours
though if you’re in good
shape you should be able
to do it in less time. Most of
the hike is through forest
but near the summit thetrail becomes rocky andrequires some clambering.
Much of Miune’s forest
is deciduous Autumn isthe ideal time to do it
and experience somebreathtaking fall colours.

Up in the clouds - nearing Mt Miune summit

At the summit of Mt Miune
there is a hut where you
can sleep free of charge.
In fact there are a numberof huts (known as yamagoya in Japanese) along
this mountain range.

nature of Mt Miune and its
surrounding environment.
Near Nagoro you will findthe Iyashi-no-Onsenkyo
hot spring resort (where it isalso possible to camp andhike Mt Miune from). Hereyou can ride an hour longmonorail though the forestand experience the foliage
and scenery of the area.
You can also try your handat making soba noodles at
the resort if you like.
http://www.sobanoyado.
jp/Default.aspx?id=0

Be aware that thetemperature at night here
drops substantially so be
sure to pack warm clothes
and a sleeping bag. Be
warned also that there is a
resident rodent problem in
the Miune hut so make sure
your food is secure before
you go to sleep or you may
wake to ﬁnd it depleted orgone.
If the hike sounds too
arduous for you or you
have little ones in tow, you
can still enjoy the wonderful

Getting there
As with Mt Tsurugi,
accessing Mt Miune is quitea mission whether you use
private or public transport.
By car the fastest, thoughcostliest, way is to take theexpressway to Ikawa-Ikeda
Interchange ( 井 川 池 田 IC).
From here take route 32
towards Kochi then turn left
at Oboke ( 大歩危 ) towards
the Kazurabashi vine
bridge and Mt Tsurugi andtake route 439 to the small
village of Nagoro ( 名 頃 ).

Follow the sign across theriver here to get to the Mt
Miune trailhead ( 三 嶺 登 山口 ) where there are toilets .
You can also camp by theparking area here.
Alternatively if you havetime but lack money you
can take route 438 all theway from Tokushima to Mt
Tsurugi then route 439 via
the Oku-Iya Kazurabashi
vine bridges to Nagoro.
By public transport you’ll need to allow yourself
two days. Best you makean early start too – to get
the 8:15 bus from Ikeda Bus
Terminal bound for Nagoro,
you’ll need to catch an
express train to Awa Ikeda,
departing from Tokushima
at 6:10.
Bus information is available
in Japanese:
http://www.yonkoh.
co.jp/renraku/re_01.htm

3santa claus is coming to town

サンタがおうちにやってくる！！
■企画内容「お子様へのサプライズ！あなたのお家にサンタクロー
スがやってきます。
」
12/24 クリスマスイブの夜、サンタクロースになったボランティアがとくしまの子どもに “プレゼントと夢” を届ける「チャリティサンタ活動」を行います。
※チャリティサンタ活動とは…全国各地で行われているサンタクロースを通じた社会貢献活動。 サ ン タ を 通 じ て 地 域 の 活 性 化 に 貢 献 す る と ともに子どもたちがぬくもりのある大人へと成長
し て い く、 そ の き っ か け 作 り を 目 的 と し た 活 動。
■依頼事項
クリスマスイブの夜に子どもたちのもとへ夢とプレゼントを運んでくれる「チャリティサンタ」
を募集しています。
事前にご両親からお預かりしたプレゼントを、イ
ブ当日にご自宅へ運び、サプライズをお届けすることが主な役割です。
■主催者①ＮＰＯ法人 びざん大学
http://bizandaigaku.net/

all i want for christmas is

YOU!

Interested in bringing joy to local children
during Christmas? Tokushima NPO Centerand Bizan University are teaming up to bring
Christmas to the doorsteps of Tokushima
children.
This charity event will see volunteers
visiting local houses on Christmas Eve, andhanding out presents.

②徳島市市民活力開発センター
http://www.tokushima-shikatsu.com/
徳島市で活動する NPO・ボランティア団体の支援を目的とした組織。
本企画は、子どもの健全育成及びまちづくり事業の一環として行うもので、びざん大学との共催で行う。
■昨年の活動2011 年に開催した際の新聞記事です。
http://www.topics.or.jp/localNews/news/2011/1
2/2011̲132347863267.html■問い合わせ徳島市市民活力開発センター：岸田侑（きしだゆう）
携帯：０９０５２７７２２４６
メール：inkubus0908@yahoo.co.jp

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In order to make this event a success,they are currently recruiting

Charity Santas!!!

Details: Handing out the presents boughtfor the children by their parents, to thechildren, as Santa Claus!
Info: Mr. Yu Kishida at Tokushima NPO
CenterTel: ０９０５２７７２２４６
Email：inkubus0908@yahoo.co.jp
Press coverage of last year’s event:
http://www.topics.or.jp/localNews/news/20
11/12/2011_132347863267.html

irene's recipe cornerby irene wachuga

wrap 'em snack.

Seeing that the cultural
day falls in November, thisis our chance to celebratea snack that is enjoyed bymany people worldwide...
The

SAMOSA!!

A savory fried dough filledwith spiced potatoes,
onions, peas, lentils andground meat (usually lamb/chicken but any meat is
OK for those with no diet
restrictions). The size mayvary but, the shape is usuallytriangular. This snack is
popular as an appetizer
with tea and is often soldon the streets or at fast
food kiosks. It might beaccompanied by a chutney
in some countries. Whether
you make it spicy or not is apersonal preference.

Salt and pepper to taste
150- 200cc, water.
2 packs of Spring rollwrappers.
Lemon or lime/sudachi.
Oil, for deep frying.

with lemon or lime wedges
or a chutney of your liking.

•
Whether you
make meat or vegetablesamosas, it’s up to you
the cook to be your own
Preparation;chef (BYOC). Fill them
1.
Brown the meat in with whatever you fancy
a sauce pan, then add the as long as the filling is notonions. When they begin too wet that it might soak
to soften, add all the other through the patties when
Ingredients; (makes 16)
300g…ground beef/pork/ ingredients and simmer until frying.
chicken200g …potatoes diced[5mm-1cm cubes]
200g …onions [1 big or 2
small ones]
50g….carrot finely diced.
2 cloves of garlic, finely
chopped/minced.
¼ cup chopped cilantro/
parsley
2 green chilies, finely
chopped [optional]½ tsp each, coriander,
cumin, turmeric, red pepper
powder or [1 ½ Tbsp currypowder]the vegetables are cooked
through. Take off heat andcool.
2.
Meanwhile, take two
sheets of the wraps and cut
them in half. Roll to makea cone and stuff the filling
inside. Seal the edges tightly
by moistening the edges
with water. Do all of themand set aside.
3.
Deep fry in oil until
golden brown. [Oil should
not be sizzling hot just aboutmoderate].Drain on paper
towels and serve while hot•
You can also makeyour own dough for the
pastry but the wraps makeyour work that much easierand don’t compromise
the taste that much.
•
Samosas don’t dowell if they get too cold soenjoy them while they arestill hot.

Happy Eating!

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japanese lessonby takako yamada

restrictions on subjects in complex sentences
Last month, we learned omission of subjects. In that connection, this month’s Japaneselesson deals with the restrictions on subjects in complex sentences. By learning them, you
can tell who does or did.
べんきょう

じしょ

か

a) (S1) もっと勉強するために、（S2）辞書を買った。 →Same Subjects (SS)X bought
X a book, so that X じwill
study.
べんきょう
しょかb) (S1) もっと勉強するように、→Different Subjects (DS)（S2）辞書を買った。
X bought Y a book, so that Y will study.
In a), S1 and S2 are same (SS), while in b), S1 and S2 are different (DS). Restrictions occur
depending on various conditions including types of conjunctions, the different use of wa
and ga, verbs etc.Words in ( ) do not appear in actual conversation or sentences.
1. Types of conjunctions
Same Subject (SS) type: ながら、て、し、つつ、ために、ままDifference Subject (DS) type: と、たら、が、ので、ように (objectives)
Whoはは
did the action in the following
sentences? Please fill in the blanks.
な1a) 母はテレビをみて、() はは
was watching TV and crying.
泣いていた。Mother
み
な
1b) (
) テレビを見ながら、母は泣いていた。While watching TV, mother was crying.
みははな1c) (はは かえ ) 見ると、母は泣いていた。WhenI watched her, mother was crying.
でんわ1d) 母が帰って来たので、() 電話をきった。As mother came back, I hung up
the phone.ところ くるま
こま1e) (S1) そんな所に車をとめたら、(S2) 困るんです。If you (or he, etc.) park the
car there, I will be in trouble.
Answers:

はは

はは1a) 母 1b) 母 1c) わたし 1d) someone other than mother,for example わたし
かれ1e) (S1) someone other than me, for example あなた , 彼 (S2) わたし

2. The different use of wa and ga
Wa is a topic marker and the wa-marked subject can be connected to verbs both inmain and subordinate clauses.
SS typepattern: X は、X〜、......
たろう
にほん
かえ
はたら
2a) 太郎は、() 日本に帰ってから、いっしょうけんめい働いた。
After Taro returned to Japan, he worked hard.
DS typepattern:
Xかえが〜、Y......
たろう
にほん
はたら
2b) 太郎が日本に帰ってから、Y はいっしょうけんめい働いた。
After Taro returned to Japan, Y worked hard.
In the subordinate clause, only the ga-marked subject can appear. Therefore the gamarked subject in the subordinate clause denotes the DS reading and the main clausesubject usually refers to the topic.

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japanese lesson
3. Types of verbs (their meaning)

The meaning of some verbs in the main clause can signal whether the subject of thesubordinate clause is the same (SS type) or different (DS type).
おっとむ だ づ か

つま

りょうり

おっと

つつし

3a) ( 夫が ) 無駄遣いするのを ( 夫が ) 慎む。
てつだ3b) ( 妻が ) 料理するのを ( 夫が ) 手伝う。
In 3a), the verb of the main clause indicates SS because the two actions can only be
conducted by the one person, so it means“ My husband refrains from (his) wastingmoney. On the other hand, in 3b), the verb of the main clause indicates DS because thetwo actions cannot be conducted by the one person, so it means“ The husband helps hiswife cook”. Those verbs that have SS/DS signals are shown in the following table.
い

わけ

き

おこた

あやま

SS type verbs: 言い訳する make excuse 決める decide 怠る neglect 謝る apologize
つつし

こうかい

慎む refrain from 後悔する regret etc.
てつだ

かんしゃ

どうい

めいれい

DS type verbs: 手伝う help 感謝する appreciate 同意する agree 命令する order
おうえん

りょうり

きょか

応援する encourage 理解する understand 許可する permit etc.
参考図書：How can we know who did what to whom in Japanese?
＊ There are some exceptions in the above mentioned rules.

地域日本語指導ボランティア養成講座受講生募集

外国人の方に日本語を教えるノウハウを勉強しませんか？
now recruiting volunteer japanese language teachers!

前期日程 :（土曜日４回 ９：３０〜１２：３０，１３：１５〜１６：１５）[1] １１月１７日 ( 土 )[2] １１月２４日 ( 土 ) [3] １２月１日 ( 土 ) [4] １２月８日（土 )＊後期は２０１３年の 2 月頃を予定しています
場所：阿南市富岡公民館
1 階 図書室
教科書（要購入）：前期 ｢ みんなの日本語Ⅰ（改訂版）｣
後期：｢ みんなの日本語Ⅱ（１月発行予定の改訂版）｣（各スリーエーネットワーク発行・2500 円）
定員：20 名程度 参加費：無料
締切：11 月 10 日（土）講師：青木洋子先生
問合せ・申込：阿南市国際交流協会（担当）小野TEL：0884 − 44 − 6652 MAIL：himawari̲2012̲aia@yahoo.co.jp〒 774-0045 阿南市向原町天羽畭 103-1 西野建設 ( 株 ) 内
11 月 10 日までに電話かメールにてお申し込みください。
＊詳細は TOPIA ホームページをご覧下さい。（なおこの事業は県・TOPIA の事業です）＊また徳島県立総合大学校「まなびーあ徳島」の生活環境学部の講座でもあります。
（24 単位取得可）

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letter from suketo hoikuen

by kazue inoue
suketo hoikuen staff

Every November
in Japan, boys of 3
and 5, and girls of 3
and 7 years old, aretaken in temples
and shrines in anannual festival, in
the hope of thechildren’s healthy
growthA tradition named "shichigo-san” (7-5-3), after the 3participating age ranges,
the festiva provides afantastic opportunity forfamilies to appreciate thehappiness born of a child’s
healthy development.
This month, I’d like to discussa factor crucial to such
healthy growth – sleep. A
variety of hormones are
secreted whilst a childis asleep, particularly inthe younger years. These
include growth hormones,
ACTH (Adrenocorticotropic
hormone; a stimulant ofconcentration, academic
ability, and desire),
Melatonin (responsible forcontrolled development
and balance of emotions),

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and Cortisol (Corticosteroid;
raises body temperatureand energy levels).
What’s interesting to noteis that timing is truly of theessence - secretion rates ofthese hormones are said todrop below 60% post 10pm.
In addition, production ofwhite blood cells (defending
us from bacteria and viruses)
and hormones which aid
our fight against stress isthought to increase in theearly hours of the morning,making waking up early
incredibly beneﬁcial.

Early nights andearly mornings
play animportant rolein ensuring an
infant's healthy
development

Autumn Photo Frame
Preparation:- Paper Plate- Pencil/Pen- Scissors- Sheets of Paper- Piece of string (short)- Tape- Natural autumn decorations(fallen leaves etc.)

Instructions:
1.Draw a circle slightly smaller
than a large size photographon the paper plate.
2.Fold the paper plate gently
in half in order to cut out thecircle out.
3.Turning the plate over,create a pocket on theback by fastening 3 sides
of a sheet of paper (slightly
larger than a photograph)with tape, and create a wall
fastening using a short pieceof string looped and taped
to the backside.
4.Decorate the front of theplate with fallen autumn
leaves and other natural
decorations.

How to Use:
Slide a photograph of yourchoice into the back pocket,
and hang it on your wall!

tokushima toastmasters club

徳島トーストマスターズクラブ例会への参加ご案内
Want to improve your English public speaking

人前で話せるようになりたい、 表現力やプレ& presentation skills? Check out Tokushima

ゼン力を身につけたいあなたを歓迎します。

Toastmasters!
Who: Anybody 18 years & overWhen: Every 3rd Sunday 13:30~16:00
Where: TOPIA meeting room, Clement Plaza 6F
Info:

Takako Yamada (Vice President

Membership)
TEL (English): 090-2787-3597
Cost: Free!
* The place and date are subject to change

入会資格：

１８歳以上

日時：

毎月第三日曜日場所：

徳島駅クレメントプラザ 6 Ｆ

１３：３０−１６：００

トピア (TOPIA) 会議室
連絡先：

山田多佳子 （会員担当副会長）

電話番号：０９０ー２７８７−３５９７
ご注意：

会場、日時が変更することがあります。ホームページまたはPlease check out the latest information at http://

徳島新聞情報とくしまを確認してください

tokushima-tmc.org, or the Tokushima Newspaper.

徳島在住の外国人歓迎 !

We warmly welcome participationfrom Tokushima's foreign residents!

27th National Culture Festival
Tokushima 2012; International Dance Festival
An opportunity to experience dances from Tokushima and around the world!

1. Be enchanted at the Arts Stage:
Watch
local dance groups performing traditional
regional dances. There will be dancers from
Germany's Lower Saxony Region, as well
as visiting troupes from Korea and China.
Of course, you can also watch Tokushima's
famous AwaOdori!

2. Be involved on Cultural Exchange Street:
Watch a performance by visiting German
artists, and visit cultural exchange and cuisine
stalls!
11.23 (Fri/natl. holiday): 11:00 - 17:00
ASTY Tokushima/ advanced tickets ￥1000 /same day ￥500 up (all assigned seating).

第 27 回国民文化祭・とくしま 2012

世界の踊りフェスティバル 徳島とゆかりのある地域の踊りをこの機会に是非お楽しみ下さい！
1. 魅せる！芸能ステージ
アマーランダー民族舞踊団体（ドイツ）

2.

体感！友好交流ストリート

デ・フォフティグ・ペンス（ドイツ）ライブ

張家界魅力湘西芸術団（中国）

国際交流ブース、食文化発信ブース他

金昴先韓国舞踊団（韓国）

１１月２３日（金・祝）１１：００−１７：００

阿波おどり／徳島県阿波踊り協会、

アスティとくしま・全席指定１０００円「当日５００

阿波 おどり振興協会（日本）

円増」

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helpline for foreigners
よりそいホットライン

Here to answer any troubles that you may have.
Life, Work, Housing, Suicidal Thought, Mind and Heart,
Family, Money, Illness, Handicaps, Crime, Sex, Domestic Violence/Sexual Violence, Children, Law and Legal
Procedures, Administration and Various Oﬃcial Procedures, Education, Human Relations, Foreign Nationality, Disaster Stricken Area/Nuclear Reactors, Others.
0120-279-338

queries concerning the new foreign resident
system...?
外国人住民の住民基本台帳制度に対しての問い合せがあれば。。
。

July 9th, 2012 saw the introduction of a new foreign registration system in Japan. The government
has provided information on various aspects of this in a number of languages, so if you have any
concerns, don't hesitate to take a gander at the websites or make a telephone enquiry.
Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications Call Center
TEL: 0570-066-630 (Navi Dial); 03-6301-1337 (IP Phone/PHS Calls)
Opening Hours: Monday - Friday (excluding public holidays) 8:30 - 17:30
02.04.2012 - 29.03.2013
Available Languages: Japanese; English; Chinese; Korean; Spanish; Portuguese
Procedures applicable to foreigners who recently entered Japan:
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/pdf/english03.pdf (English)
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/pdf/espanol18.pdf (Spanish)
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/pdf/portugues23.pdf (Portuguese)
Procedures applicable to foreigners changing residences within Japan:
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/pdf/english04.pdf (English)
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/pdf/espanol19.pdf (Spanish)
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/pdf/portugues24.pdf (Portuguese)
General Information:
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/zairyu_english.html (English)
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/zairyu_espanol.html (Spanish)
http://www.soumu.go.jp/main_sosiki/jichi_gyousei/c-gyousei/zairyu_portugues.html(Portuguese)11memoranda
monster festival

Monster shrines, bands, processions,competitions for the best homemade monster
and unique local products are some of theattractions at this festival.
When: November 25th (Sun) 10:00 - 16:00
W h e r e : M i y o s h i C i t y, Ya m a s h i r o - c h o ,Kamimiyo, Fujinosato Park
Cost: Free!
Info: Fujikawadani no Kai
Tel: 0883-84-1155

妖怪まつり

ようかいまつり

妖怪みこし、妖怪バンド、妖怪行列、手作り
妖怪コンテスト などの催しや、地元の特産品の販売などもあります。

日時：2012/11/25（日）10:00 - 16:00
開催地 : 三好市山城町上名 藤の里公園
料金：無料
問合せ：藤川谷の会（山城茶業組合内）
0883-84-1155

misato plum wine
festival

美郷梅酒まつりThe first area, nationally, to be designatedas a [plum wine zone]; the misato plum
wine festival continues this year. 15 types ofplum wine and food can be sampled across 7
venues. Why not enjoy the ﬂavours of autumn
in the beautiful surroundings of Misato?

全国初の「梅酒特区」徳島県吉野川市美郷地区で、今年も梅酒まつりを開催します。開催
期間中は、7 ヶ所の会場で合計 15 種類の梅酒や食事が味わえます。秋の味覚を楽しみながら、のんびりゆったりしませんか？豊かな自然あふれる美郷へどうぞお越しください。

When: November 24th & 25th (Sat/Sun)
10:00 - 15:30
Where: Yoshinogawa, Misato Hotaru-Kan
Cost: Advanced; ￥1000, Same-day: ￥1200
Info: Misato Plum Wine Festival Committee
Tel: 0883-43-2216

日時：2012/11/24 & 25（土・日）10:00 - 15:30
開催地：吉野川市美郷 美郷ほたる館
料金 : 前売り券 1000 円、当日券 1200 円
問合せ : 美郷梅酒まつり実行委員会
0883-43-2216※ Be sure to make use of public transport and the※アルコールを飲むイベントなので、お越しの際は公共交通機関・無料シャトルバスをご利用ください。
※マイグラスご持参にご協力下さい。

complimentary shuttle bus.
※ Please bring your own glass!

みさとうめしゅまつり

Counselling Service at TOPIA
トピアの相談窓口

TOPIA offers a counselling and advisory service to all foreign residents to help with issues involving accidents, working
conditions, housing, visas, international marriage, and more. Counselling is available in English and Japanese. Please notethat although every effort will be made, we may not be able to deal with all cases.
Monday to Friday, 10:00 - 16:30
Tel. 088-656-3303 or 088-656-3320 (allows three-way conversations with an interpreter)

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