Talks in Commemoration of the 40th Anniversary of “Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Technical Review”

Future Role and Mission ofJapan’s Heavy Industry Firms
Takemochi Ishii
Professor Emeritus, University of Tokyo
Takashi Nishioka
President of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.
Ayao Tsuge
Managing director, General Manager, Technical
Headquarters, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.

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Tss u g e )Taking the opportunity of 40th Anniversary of publishing “Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Technical
Review,” it is our pleasure to arrange the talks for Future Role & Mission of Japan's Heavy Industry Firms,
as well as "Tomorrow and Dreams" of Mitsubishi Heavy
Industries, Ltd. (MHI) , among Mr. Takashi Nishioka,
the President of MHI and Professor Emeritus
Takemochi Ishii, University of Tokyo and myself. Now,
the time is 21st century and during the period when thesociety is drastically changing, I would like you to talkover the way how to create innovative technologies andproduct-making to aim for establishment of state based
science and technologies. Also, to discuss the futurerole and mission of Japan's heavy industry firms andMHI's tomorrow and dreams. To start with, I would
suggest to talk over the changes of surrounding conditions and relatively declined competitiveness ofJapanese manufacturing industries in the past ten
years.

In the late 1980s, it was said that Japan had caught
up with the world. The fact of the matter is that theJapanese manufacturing industry had not yet been able
to catch up with the world in creation of new products,
although it was excellent in production techniques andtechnical improvements. Nevertheless, both Japanand other countries were under the false impressionthat the Japanese manufacturing industry really could
catch up with the world. Thus, the Japanese manufacturing industry was subjected to great externalpressure and was thrown into a world of severe competition. The manufacturing industry then encountered
severe price competition, including the relationship between the dollar and the yen, and was compelled tomove in the direction of cost reduction. For this reason,
our engineering could not afford to look to new technologies and new products. In my opinion, it was thisthat led to the present lower competitiveness of theJapanese industry.
(Ishii)With regard to price competition, Japan has been
taking the lead in this since World War II, but other
Asian nations have also begun to participate in thiscompetition. The biggest reason why Asian nations
have rapidly improved their competitiveness is thatthey were able to learn from Japan’s example how tosucceed in exporting products to the world market,
and began to follow this example under more favorable conditions such as cheap labor cost. At first, theJapanese underestimated this Asian power. In my
opinion, however, we should consider the circumstances a little more seriously. This is because Asian
nations have begun to implement the IT revolution,
the new technical innovation of the 21st century, simultaneously with the promotion of industrialization.
In the Asian nations, the IT revolution is now underway in parallel with industrialization by way of theEnvironment of the Japanese Manufacturing Industry(Ishii)
Looking back at the 20th century, Japan as a defeated nation was able to recover after World War II
and realize the world's strongest manufacturing industry by the 1980s. In the 1990s, however, I think
we can say that Japan reached the limits of the 20th
century-style mass-production system. So, I think it
is true that the time has now come for Japan to breakaway from the industrial society of the 20th century.
(Nishioka)
In complete ruin after World War II, the Japanesemanufacturing industry started its recovery from production based on licenses, and supplied its products tothe world by refining them in a unique Japanese way.

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so-called “Jump-over Phenomenon” that includes widespread use of the internet even in a very poor living
environment and use of mobile telephones from thestart despite the fact that fixed-wire telephone sets
were never popular in these nations.
The Asian nations are proceeding with industrialization concurrently with the IT revolution for the firsttime in human history. I think we should understandthat a kind of experiment is now being conducted inthose nations, and accept the idea that we must also
make effective use of the experimental data for theindustrial revolution of the 21st century.
(Nishioka)
The steel-making companies of China and Korea,
for example, have installed ultramodern machines andequipment capable of making quality and cost-competitive products. This is an actual fact. We should
remember that we live in an age when Japan cannot
be a match for its competitors with production technologies alone.
(Ishii)Speaking from my own experience of acting as aconsultant for a steel-making company, I know that
the Japanese steel industry was dispatching engineers
to China and other Asian nations for technical guidance on operation of steel mills. However, since theequipment installed at worksites was of the latest typenot yet seen in Japan, it seems that under these circumstances the engineers could only teach theirlong-accumulated experience in operation.
It goes without saying that hardware is better inquality when it has been made recently. The same may
also be said of semi-conductors. Since the hardware isbetter in quality when it is of recent manufacture, thismay finally result in the difference in competitive abilities of products when product-manufacture is subjected
to market evaluation. We must understand that it isabsolutely impossible to maintain our predominantposition permanently on account of the difference inaccumulated operating experience and know-how.
(Nishioka)
Occasionally, people from Japanese steel-making
companies have told us that Chinese and Korean steelmakers increased their competitiveness so
impressively because MHI had delivered high-performance iron and steel machinery to them. In answer
to such comments, I usually say "You should therefore make a steady investment in equipment together
with research and development. Otherwise, the Japanese steel industry will lose much more in competition
with foreign countries." If heavy industry firms including MHI increase their exports, this may lead tostrengthened international competitiveness of industries in importing nations because of less domestic
equipment investment.
I fear that the recent tendency of Japanese industry to neglect equipment investment will lead to thehollowing-out of the industry, and finally losing its
ability to make the world's best products.
(Ishii)To cite the example of the telephone, Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Public Corporation, the precursor

Takemochi Ishii
Born on July 26, 1930.
Graduated in 1954 from the Medical Department, University of Tokyo.
Graduated in 1957 from the Department of Mechanical Engineering, University of Tokyo,
and entered the Ministry of International Trade and Industry (Heavy Industries Bureau).
Took office in 1973 as a professor at the Department of Mechanical Engineering, Universityof Tokyo.
Granted in 1991 the title of Professor Emeritus, University of Tokyo and took office asa professor at Keio University.
Now acting as a Chairman & Chief Executive Officer of THE TOKIO MARINE RESEARCHINSTITUTE and as an adviser to THE TOKYO ELECTRIC POWER CO.

Takashi Nishioka
Born on May 3, 1936.
Graduated in 1959 from the Department of Technology, University of Tokyo
Joined Shin Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. in 1959.
Appointed General Manager, Nagoya Aerospace Systems Works of Aircraft & Special
Vehicle Headquarters in 1991.
Took office in 1995 as a director, Deputy General Manager, Aircraft & Special Vehicle
Headquarters.
Took office in 1998 as an executive vice president, General Manager, Aircraft & Special
Vehicle Headquarters.
Took office in 1999 as the president of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.

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of NTT, has grown into a world-class communicationenterprise through the propagation of fixed-wire telephone sets. With the popularization of mobile
telephones, however, the company's business as a whole
began to turn into the red. NTT must stop losing money
by removing these fixed telephones as early as possible, but it may take a considerable amount of time todecide how to promote such a structural change. In
terms of action for future development, the developing
countries of Asia have the advantage of being able toconcentrate their efforts only on the fastest growing
fields from the start, because they have no old equipment.
Conversely, I think that Japan is strong in pointsof accumulated experience. For example, Japan built
the world's No. 1 railroad (the "Shinkansen") by innovating railroad technology considered to be technology
at the mature phase, and operated it successfully without accident. We have accumulated this technicalexperience. Asian nations are now increasing their pricecompetitiveness in jump-over style with no Shinkansen.
However, they will find themselves needing to consolidate their hardware systems and infrastructures before
long. At that time, based on the history of our building
the Shinkansen, we wonder how Asian nations, in which
the internet is available without a Shinkansen, will beable to build and use a Shinkansen from now on. Thinking ahead of that to develop the next-generation
Shinkansen in the 21st century, Japan will have a very
good opportunity to make the next jump. As I mentioned a little earlier, Japan has a burden of oldequipment and structures. However, this also meansthat Japan has the advantage over other nations ofbeing able to take a big chance if she can successfully
rebuild such equipment and structures.
(Nishioka)
As regards the outflow of technologies to China
and Korea, it is impossible to stop the current flow
and exchange of technologies. While they are developing on the basis of rapidly improving production
technologies, Japan has accumulated many more
technologies. So we should always take one step forward. From this viewpoint, we are now at a time

when much more importance should be attached totechnical research starting from the basics. In my
opinion, we are now at a turning point for shifting fromthe conventional way of living based on production
technologies to a way of living based on creative technologies.
(Ishii)Technologies that once flourished in Rome spreadto neighbouring countries such as Gaul, Germania andBritannia, with the result that Western Europe as awhole was activated, and it was there that the worldleading industrial revolution and Renaissance occurred.
In exactly the same way, the outflow of technologies
from Japan has now led to the occurrence of various
changes and evolutionary phenomena in the whole of
Asia. This, I believe, is a historical current that cannot
be changed substantially.
On the other hand, I think it advisable to consider
the "Techno-evolution" in the context of Japan's promotion of new development under these circumstances.
In the course of evolution, all creatures retain their old
genes in their DNA. The reason why a mammal has agene for making a body structure capable of secretingmilk from a mammary gland is that it makes properuse of DNA from its ancestor, a batrachian, to control
osmotic pressure when the batrachian goes from waterto land. Since Japan has many "techno-genomes" thatwere created in the course of her "progress" in industrialization during the last 100 years and is about to takethe next step in her technical evolution, I think it would
be inadvisable to discard the techno-genomes of theJapanese type. In my opinion, Japan would be welladvised to keep such genomes in her possession because
this may be useful at the time of the occurrence of thephenomenon of the mammal making best use of thebatrachian's DNA, as I just mentioned.
It will thus be very important for Japan to findways of making the most of Japanese-type techno-genomes in the course of her evolution in the 21st century,
while referring fully to the evolution of other Asian nations. Recently, there has been a tendency to argue
that the old Japanese genomes should be discarded,
but I think this view is erroneous.

Ayao Tsuge
Born on June 13, 1943.
Completed postgraduate course at University of Tokyo, and joined Mitsubishi Heavy
Industries, Ltd. in 1969.
Completed the postgraduate doctor course at University of Tokyo in 1973.
Appointed General Manager, Takasago Research & Development Center of Technical
Headquarters in 1997.
Took office in 2000 as a director, General Manager, Technical Headquarters.
Took office in 2002 as a managing director, General Manager, Technical Headquarters.

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(Nishioka)
In my opinion, your thoughts may also be applied tothe managerial aspect. The western style of management with first priority given to profits has been
supported during the last five to six years. In the Japanese style of management, importance has been
attached to "personnel" from the belief that the next
technologies will be based on long-accumulated technologies. However, it is now considered that we should
foster only successful products and technologies andthrow away the useless ones. However, since the next
technologies will be based on long-accumulated technologies, it is important in my opinion to consider
ways of preserving these technologies. The second
merit of the Japanese style of management is thatbusiness is conducted by looking ahead five to ten
years into the future. In the western style of management, business is conducted inevitably from theviewpoint of whether good results may be obtained or
not in the short term of one or two years. It is the key
and strong point of the Japanese manufacturing industry to develop the next new technologies on thebasis of its long-accumulated technologies and knowhow. If we forget this, Japan will fall into a very criticalcondition, I think.
Particularly in the USA, it seems that the western-style management philosophy has made it very
difficult to manage the business of the manufacturing industry. The manufacture of gas turbines andaircraft, for example, costs a great deal, and therefore the funds for such business are not readily approvedby the board of directors. I have also heard that sincesuch business is too risky to guarantee successful results, the executives are compelled to shift the corporate
business to the fields of service and finance in order tosatisfy the shareholders. Thinking of these points, thefundamentals on which the Japanese manufacturingindustry can continue to hold the No. 1 position in theworld still remain in the industry/university/official
circles.
(Ishii)Since Japan has genomes which have enhanced thelevel of its manufacturing industry, including the longterm management philosophy that you have mentioned,
the way for Japan to survive is to evolve such genomes
wisely, I think.
(Nishioka)
At the time when we were under pressure from conventional cost competition, it was rather difficult for
us to take a broad and long-term view of things. Upon
reconsideration of our past activities, we are now thinking about where we can find new products, how we can
expand our business starting from our existing products and where we should be in five or ten years.
It is fairly difficult to make a fresh development,

and success cannot be achieved in separation. As forthe separate technologies, since there are also many
specialists who have accumulated experience for tensof years, it is difficult for us to catch up with themalone and independently. Therefore, we intend toproceed with technical development together withother companies even if we have to combine our technologies with the technologies of others. I feel thatsuch combinations will become important in the future.
(Ishii)Regarding the combination of technologies, theMechanical Engineering Course at University of Tokyo once believed that communication and network
systems should be taught in separate courses. However, on the assumption that machines are only usefulwhen connected to each other by communication andnetwork systems, I think machines should be madewith built-in information/communication and control
functions, in the same way as they have bolts andnuts.
(Nishioka)
In my opinion, one of the major tasks of the future
will be to build software making the most of the essence of electronics, innovative information andcommunication technologies in machines. In view ofthe fact that there is a limit on the profit to be gainedby a machine alone, and that software makes a machine work well, it will be very important to expand
the possibility of machines to the maximum extent, I
think. In this sense, since the young people of today
have software-oriented minds, it is, in my opinion,
important to merge such minds with the long-accumulated experience of their seniors.
(Ishii)As the 20th century approaches its end, greatchanges are apparent in modes of scientific thinking
as a whole. In the 19th century, when human thinking was based mainly on the general idea of energy,
all things ranging from food to steam engines werelinked together by "calories." In this respect, all species of living creatures and all types of machines are
now going to be linked together by ways of acquiring
information. The structure of the genome was discovered in 1953, and the human genome was totally
analysed in 2000. During this period of 50 years, greatchanges in thought have taken place. This means thatthings must be thought of not separately, but in combination. Namely, thinking was reversed so thatthings could only exist depending on their relativity.
In the field of quantum mechanics, for example, thetesting condition in which only one electron existed
was thought to be ideal. However, since an electricfield is generated even in a vacuum if there exists anelectron, interaction becomes an issue. Therefore, theMitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.
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idea of the "field," i.e., a quantum field, has become important. This idea is called by various names such ascomplex systems, fractal, the idea of "renormalization"and non-linearity. In the internet, its link is most representative of non-linearity. Since people now make aliving by making daily use of the internet, this way of
thinking has naturally become all-pervasive. In the
manufacturing industry also, I believe that new ideas
will be embodied by such people on the basis of the experience and technologies accumulated in the 20th
century.
(Nishioka)
In consideration of relativity, we must think about
what customers wish from us and what they are now
expecting, because our company is centered aroundits customers. As Dr. Ishii said, the next product canbe created only by fully gathering various items of
information concerning complex systems through human relations. Take gas turbines, for example: wehave started to use the IT to gather information concerning the kinds of issues that face gas turbines in
use around the world. By determining what customers think of such products, we are then able to apply
such information to the next product. We are now
spreading this method to various kinds of products.
We intend to enhance the level of our technologicalability while endeavoring to ascertain what customers wish us to do next. We are now making gradualbut steady efforts to gain high evaluation from ourcustomers by always combining these two factors tocreate the next products.

delicate manner, but this precondition was satisfied
by mechatronics. Another difficulty concerns the visualization technique that makes it possible to see
the specimen. This problem was also solved by IT,
and we can now see everything including the details ofmolecular structures such as DNA. STM-related technologies are the fruit of IT and mechatronics. Through
STM, we feel that we can see a new world. Thanks to
its application to genomes, the structure of genomes
could be analysed, thus enabling a road map (plan)for genomes to be drawn from now on. This meansthat we are able to discover new facts through themerger of mechatronics and IT. I have said that wewere able to make a leap forward in the 21st century
owing to the fact that we are jumping from microns tonanometers like the divisions on a measuring tape,i.e., we are really entering the world of quantum mechanics.
(Nishioka)
As for the merger of technologies, we are making asimilar challenge. In the field of energy, technical research and development have conventionally been
conducted only on combustion techniques. Today, however, we have begun to carry out R&D on alternativetechniques such as fuel cells and solar power generation, for which we apply the principles of electrochemistry and physics based on the direct conversionof chemical energy and optical energy to electricity.
Application of this new energy conversion can be expanded not only to land, but also to outer space anddeep sea. Furthermore, robots for plant inspection andrepair, developed by making best use of mechatronics,
are also evolving into life-assisting robots and highprecision cancer treatment equipment meeting theneeds of the welfare/aging society through mergers withThe 21st Century is the Time for TechnicalCreation and Product-making(T
Tss u g e )Next on our topics, I hope you will discuss the challenging target of the Japanese manufacturing industry"The 21st Century is the Time for Technical Creation
and Product-making," including the question of how topromote the secondary IT revolution and nano-technology revolution now under way and how to merge thesewith the techno-genomes in the possession of heavy industry firms.
(Ishii)In the 20th century, it was difficult for technicalengineering departments at universities to deal withphenomena in the order of nanometers. In the 21st
century, however, rapid progress has been made in
nano-technology, to the extent that no technical engineering department can be imagined withoutnano-technological research. This means that it has
become possible to exert very precise control throughthe merger of digital technology and mechatronics. As
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internet technology and mobile technology. I think thesewill be included among the value-creative type technologies of the 21st century.
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Ts u g e )To develop the Japanese manufacturing industry intoa value-creative type industry through the merger oftechno-genomes as an objective of technologies cultivated by Japan as an innovative and product-making
nation, I think it is still important to nurture fresh
talent. I would like to hear your comments on thispoint.
(Ishii)
According to conventional common sense in thetechnical engineering departments of universities,
molecular biology and DNA were considered to be
strange subjects. As from the start of the 1990s, however, first-line researchers had to know all aboutmolecular biology as a subject for general education.
This means that it is not acceptable to use the same
curriculum in the 21st century, the century of biotechnology, as that used in the 20th century, the century
of physics. Now, it is no longer considered sufficient
to take only one course as in the past, but it is thought
preferable to take two or even three courses and to
hold two or three Ph.D.s. In fact, a person who was
engaged in research on artificial intelligence and artificial languages recently obtained two degrees in thisfield. Nevertheless, he became a graduate student
once again while teaching as an assistant professor,
and also entered the medical department and obtained
the title of Ph.D. in Medicine. As a triple-major man,
he is now a leader in bioinformatics research. Students are greatly impressed by him. I think many
more people like him will appear in the near future.
In my opinion, it will be very important for the purpose of nurturing talent even in the technical world
to hold a multi-major.
(Nishioka)
Since we are now in a situation where technicalprogress is being made with increasing speed, there
should be a marked difference between the speed oftechnical progress in the days when we went to university and the present. As to whether this can becovered by university education alone, however, I
think we cannot expect too much because time is limited. When university graduates enter our company,
they will be engaged in business operations withgreater importance given to applied research rather
than to basic research, and even more to commercialization. So, I hope solid education on basic research
will be provided, especially at the university level.
Moreover, Japan should also create a system for closer
connection between industry/university/official circles
like that in western countries in order to complete thecycle of basic research, applied research and practicaldevelopment, including the nurturing of talent and personnel exchanges. If not, it will be difficult to developscience and technologies in Japan. A system design forcolleges and universities specializing in engineering
based on this viewpoint is desirable.
As for the merger of technologies, our company isconducting exchanges of information to a considerable
extent across the Research & Development Centers.
A strong sectionalism apparently still remains in individual fields such as shipbuilding and aircraft
manufacturing. I hope we will be able to foster multimajor degree type talents in future.

Role and Mission of Heavy Industry Firms inthe 21st Century(T
Tss u g e )Next, based on the gist of what you have said sofar, I would like to hear your comments on the role andmission of heavy industry firms in the 21st century first from Mr. Nishioka, President.
(Nishioka)
Now, we must determine what degree of technicalability we can continue to maintain in the world inconsideration of our position not only in Japan, butalso in the world. In my opinion, it is necessary toenhance our level of technical ability and ascertain
the marketability of our products from the global viewpoint. On the other hand, since Japan can only survive
as a state on the basis of technologies, if our manufacturing basis becomes inefficient, the technical level ofJapan as a whole may decline. Therefore, we must
accept responsibility for maintaining the technical levelof Japan. However, we can never succeed if we go out
into the world for the purpose of taking advantage ofsuch opportunity. I think our way of surviving in the
21st century is to do business based on a relationshipof coexistence and coprosperity, namely a "WIN-WIN"
relationship with other nations must always be taken
into consideration.

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(Ishii)
New products have been developed in quick succession in the fields of software and systems. In IT-related
business, Korea has begun to show rapid growth in thelast three years. The so-called Virtual Shopping Street
business operates by gathering sites selling goods on
the internet. If introduced from Korea, the shop costs
are as low as 1/10 of the domestic price. The market iscapable of rapid growth because many people think itproper to participate in the business the first thingeven at such low cost. It is absurd to think of the domestic market only, in disregard of such Korean
behavior. What you have said is quite right in the sensethat Japan's heavy industry firms must always keep a
sharp eye not only on the domestic market, but also on
foreign markets in order to be able to cope immediately with any situation. On the other hand, one mightask, why not go to Korea to conduct all business there,
if Korea is able to manufacture products so cheaplyand quickly? But it is impossible to do this. In fact,
Korea is promoting the sale of her products to Japan,
regarding Japan as a market. Japan is a prospective
market for the Asian nations. Therefore, I think Japan
must create a new type of structure based on the principle of live- and let-live, in which Japan herself makes
full use of her domestic market, and of information including that from overseas.
(Nishioka)
From the global point of view, I think that Japan's
heavy industry firms must find its first businesschance in the field of energy. Since the world population will continue to increase in the future while
underdeveloped countries will also wish to enhance
the standard of living of their people, the energy field
has the potential to develop in various ways whileaiming at harmony with the environment. The second
business chance lies in the transportation/distribution field. No matter how popular the internet has

become, movement of people will never cease. Therefore, I think there will be a steady demand for efficientmeans of transportation. As for the third businesschance, we intend to specialize in fields supporting
the life and enterprises because products capable ofcontributing to the progress of society are absolutely
necessary. It is, in my opinion, the role and mission ofheavy industry firms to make constant efforts in thesethree fields aiming to enhance the level of hardware
and systems as well as services required by people in
the world and society.
(Ishii)Of these three fields, it is the "Mobile" in which I
personally take the greatest interest. The most important result of the connection between the internet
and mobile telephones is that people can use theinternet while moving. I briefly mentioned "linking" alittle earlier. Transportation and traffic are the mostrepresentative examples of such linking and will be,in my opinion, decisive factors in the 21st century.
With conventional transport facilities, it was not surprising that information was not available to people
while moving. Today, however, people can move while
making use of information because information is always available through wireless communication.
Therefore, it is important for us to conceive from theviewpoint of the mobile telephone in industrial circles
including the heavy industry. In this connection, transportation, logistics, hardware and systems
contributing to the progress of society which you havementioned include new modes of traffic and transportation of types that were not available in the 20th
century. This new epoch-making development includes
areas in which Japan is able to exhibit her ability to
the full extent, such as miniaturization and lightweight information/communication equipment thatcan be realized only through progress in nano-technology.
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(TTss u g e )We are approaching the time for conclusion of yourtalks. In conclusion, I would like to hear MHI's vision
for the 21st century from the President and expectations of the future of heavy industry firms from Dr. Ishii.
(Nishioka)
As I mentioned a little while ago, importance mustbe attached to our customers. I think this should bepromoted from the aspects of technology and the market in consideration of exchanges and sophistication of
all technologies based on a global and long-term visionby always looking ten years into the future. The mostimportant thing, however, is that I wish to make MHI a
company in which young engineers can dream of thechallenge of creating the hardware/systems and services required by the world's people and nations,
including Japan, because today's engineers seem to belosing their dreams.
(Ishii)Regarding the key word "dreams," I wish to make abrief comment. They say that a dream is divorced fromreality. However, it is deemed fruitless and sometimes
dangerous that a dream remains simply in the world of
simulation. In my opinion, no dream can be persuasive
unless it is realistic. In the 1990s when the so-called
IT Bubble prevailed, excessive expectations that far
exceeded reality were entertained because the link withreality was very weak, thus leading to the increase in
number of dark fibers and the tragedy of World Com.

As for realistic dreams in the future, however, there
must be the last judge of natural science, not speak of
manufacturing industry, because the real and physicallaw was strictly established there. So therefore, thethings captured there are just the true dreams. In order to realize their dreams, engineers must master theprocess of creating new products by gathering information, thinking of the future and making repeated tests
through trial and error. Of course, this may involve therisk of failure. However, because failure is the motherof success, it is, in my opinion, important for engineers
to use the system capable of coping with every situation, including failure, the so-called Complex Systems.
Recently, a start has been made with research on aquantum computer with a new information unit called
the qubit based on the status of quantum mechanics of
not 0-1. In a sense, I think this is a kind of dream. And
it may perhaps be a realistic dream. As a new infant in
the 21st century, a quantum computer of the order of 7qubit has begun to operate. I hope engineers will use
this computer as a dream tool to make up a new system of the 21st century.
(T
Tss u g e )Through your discussion of the role and mission ofheavy industry firms, it was possible to clarify thechallenging target of MHI - namely that it should becapable of contributing to Japan, Asia and the worldin the 21st century through its technologies. Thankyou very much.

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