ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2 N2616

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2 N 3692
DATE: 2003-09-11

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2
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Secretariat: Japan (JISC)

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Summary of Voting/Table of Replies

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Summary of Voting on SC 2 N 3687: Ballot on Transfer of Project 14651(JTC 1.22.30.02.02) from JTC 1/SC 22 to SC 2SOURCESC 2 Secretariat

PROJECTSTATUSFor information. This document is sent to SC 2 Chairman for his discussion
with SC 22 Chairman as per Recommendation #2 of Meeting on theCooperation and Coordination of Cross Cultural and Linguistic Mattersheld in Geneva, June 2003.

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Summary of Voting on
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2 N 3687 :Ballot on Transfer of Project 14651 (JTC 1.22.30.02.02) from JTC 1/SC 22 to SC 2
Q1 : Do you approve the proposal?
Q1
Comments
Not yet voted
Reasons
Yes No Abstention
P-Member
Armenia
X
AustriaX
Belgium
X
CanadaX
China
X
Denmark
X
Egypt
X
FinlandX
FranceX
GermanyX
Attachment
GreeceX
IcelandX
India
X
Iran, Islamic Republic ofX
Attachment
IrelandX
Attachment
Israel
X
Italy
X
Japan
X
Korea, Democratic People's Republic
X
Korea, Republic ofX
Attachment
Mongolia
X
MoroccoX
Netherlands
X
Attachment
NorwayX
Attachment
PolandX
Romania
X
Russian Federation
X
Serbia and Montenegro
X
Singapore
X
Slovenia
X
SwedenX
ThailandX
Tunisia
X
TurkeyX
USAX
Total (35)
7 4222

Germany
Germany believes that continuity in the maintenance of IS 14651 is very important. This continutity
is guaranteed best in SC22/WG20. For this reason, Germany opposes the transfer of IS 14651 toSC2.
Iran, Islamic Republic ofIran also recommends a new working group be created under SC2 to do the work, instead of passingthe project to WG2.
Ireland
Ireland has maintained for many years that it is essential for the maintenance of ISO/IEC 14651 thatit be transferred from SC 22 to SC2, and we trust that this will at long last happen swiftly. Pleasesee attached file for 2 more sentences.
NorwayWe agree that there must be a close cooperation between SC 2 and SC 22 on this project, but due tothe nature of the work, we believe the correct place for its development is SC 22.

Ireland (NSAI) Comment on:
JTC 1 SC 2 ballot accepting the transfer of ISO/IEC 14651 from JTC 1 SC 22Ireland has maintained for many years that it is essential for the maintenance ofISO/IEC 14651 that it be transferred from SC 22 to SC2, and we trust that this will atlong last happen swiftly. Ireland suggests that an independent Ordering Rapport
Group be formed within ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2/WG 2 in order to handle the technicalwork. Alternatively, the work could be done by a new ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2/WG 4.

Republic of Korea====================================
KATS Ballot : Disapproval with Comments
Comments : KATS have participated in WG20 meeting since 2001 because there aremany relation with Hangul(Korean alphabet). It is appropriate that WG20 takes
charge of project 14651 for the efficiency of work because WG20 is responsible forinternationalization in SC22 and the rest of JTC1. And it is illogical that only theproject 14651 is transferred among many standards related to Internationalization. SoKATS disapprove that the project 145651 is transferred from SC22 to SC2.
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Netherlands
Comments on the document Jtc1/SC2 N3687:
1. ISO/IEC 14651 is a published standard. It covers a large number of scripts. Morescripts may be added, but a need for that has still to be demonstrated. If maintenanceis not required for the time being, discussing transfer of responsibility is premature.
2. As our NB has pointed out in JTC1 N 7064, Some TCs have also developed
standards for alphabetic ordering. It is of primary importance that 14651, and these beharmonized. A body, something like a WG, would be needed for this task, but it is not
obvious at all that this WG should be dependent of SC2 only.
3. The present scope of 14651 is restricting its applicability. National standards with awider scope (e.g. including treatment of composite entries) cannot be replaced by atailored version of 14651. This defect can be removed when harmonization withTC 37 and TC46 standards is effectuated.
4. Before making a start, a study of user requirements to a general standard onalphabetic ordering should be made. After its completion the way is open for a
discussion on which body should be assigned the task of development. This is whollyin line with Recommendation 1 from the Geneva meeting (JTC1 N 7136)