10TH MEETING OF INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE
June 7, 1973
The following delegates were present:
1. Z. Pawlowski, Poland (President)
2. J. Deputat, Poland (Vice-President)
3. J. Mazurek, Poland (Secretary)
4. J. Mattl, Poland
5. F. Szade, Poland
6. J.N. Baez, Argentina
7. L. J. Barman, Argentina
8. D. Hollamby, Australia
9. A. Silber, Austria
10. E. Nussmuller, Austria
11. P. de Meester, Belgium
12. A.D. Skordev, Bulgaria
13. K.V. Panev, Bulgaria
14. W.E. Havercroft, Canada
15. E. Bowe, Canada
16. L. Cizek, Czechoslovakia
17. M. Baimler, Czechoslovakia
18. S.A. Lund, Denmark
19. P. Bastien, France
20. M. Evrard, France
21. V. Hauk, Germany
22. R.O. Schumacher, Germany

23. C.H. Stanger, Great Britain
24. R. S. Sharpe, Great Britain
25. P. Reti, Hungary
26. T. Konkoly, Hungary
27. G. Nardoni, Italy
28. Y. Ishii, Japan
29. N. Niwa, Japan
30. A. de Sterke, Netherlands
31. H. Bosselaar, Netherlands
32. J.C. Walter, Norway
33. M.G. Nastase, Romania
34. M.N. Vladescu, Romania
35. M. de Miro, Spain
36. F. Ramirez Gomez, Spain
37. A. Junghem, Sweden
38. S. Dahn, Sweden
39. N.V. Khimchenko, U.S.S.R
40. V.V. Kluev, U.S.S.R
41. G.H. Tenney, U.S.A
42. P. Dick, U.S.A
43. B. Bozicek, Yugoslavia
44. D. Horwat, Yugoslavia

Dr.Z. Pawlowski opened the Tenth Meeting, welcomed the Delegates,
introduced the observers from Romania, Mr.M.G. Nastase and Mr.M.N.
Vladescu, informed about the changes in the representation from Yugoslavia andread the tentative agenda for the Tenth Meeting.
The tentative agenda for the Tenth Meeting of ICNDT was acceptedwithout change.
1. Approval of the Minutes of the Ninth Meeting held in Jablonna, Polandon June 3rd, 1973.
The Minutes of the Ninth Meeting were approved without any change.
2. The State of Certification in NDTThis problem was discussed during the Seventh Meeting of ICNDT inHannover (cf. Item 6, Minutes of the Seventh Meeting of ICNDT). Further
suggestions were put forward in Dr. Tenney’s letter of February 20th, 1973. Dr.

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Tenney proposed to appoint the Committee dealing with the question of personalqualificiation and standards. Before the discussion started Prof. Niwa distributed
the copies of “Present Status of Certification of NDT Personnel in Japan”, Prof.
Hauk transmitted the copies of “Scheme for Training and Qualification ofPersonnel in NDT Methods and in Radiation Protection”, and Dr. Pawlowski
handed over to the Delegates “Instructions for the Course of Ultrasonic Testing”
used for education courses in Poland.
After having exchanged their points of view all delegates agreed to appoint
the Task Group for the elaboration of the guidelines dealing with the certification
in NDT. Prof. Hauk put forward the proposal that the chairmanship of the Task
Group should go round year after year. Several possible modifications havebeen discussed, finally, it was agreed to accept the proposal unanimously. All
delegates agreed also that the first chairman of the Task Group should be fromFrance.
Further discussion was on future activityof the Task Group. It was agreed
that the guidelines for the certification should take the fracture mechanics intoconsideration. The guidelines should be distributed among the delegates.
Mr. Havercroft put the motion, seconded by Dr. Tenney, that the countries
represented in the Task Group should be designated. The motion was acceptedby the majority of votes (one abstention).
A very long exchange of points of view was on which countries should berepresented in the Task Group. Finally Dr. Pawlowski summarized this veryextensive discussion. Following this Dr. Deputat, acting as Voting Delegate fromPoland, put forward the motion: “France as a host country, Germany and united
Kingdom should form an effective Task Group.” Prof. de Meester supplemented
the motion that other countries may participate in the Task Group ascorresponding members.
The motion was seconded by Prof. Hauk and accepted by the majority ofvotes (one vote against). Dr. Pawlowski said that during the coming tenue alldelegates hope to obtain 6 reports on certification in NDT.
Answering Dr. Tenney’s question on the activity in NDT field in Bulgaria Dr.
Pawlowski explained that Bulgaria, the youngest member of IC NDT had fulfilled
all requirements for membership according to point 4.1 of the Terms ofReference, and asked the Bulgarian Delegates to submit to all delegates a report
describing their activity in nondestructive testing field. Dr. Pawlowski also asked
every Delegation to send reports on their activity to the International Committee
twice a year. Dr. Schumacher pointed out that the reports should contain theactivity of all NDT groups existing in the countries.

3. Comments on the VII ICNDTDr. Reti suggested to concentrate in future Conferences on most important
topics in main directions, i.e. ultrasonics, radiography and electromagnetictesting. He expressed in the name of Hungarian Delegation his appreciation forthe organisation of VII ICNDT. He said Dr. Pawlowski and Polish Society of45

Mechanical Engineers have done the work very well and they could not better
solve the organisation of the Conference.
Mr. Stanger supported this and congratulated particulary Dr. Pawlowski and
Poland for Conference organisation. Mr. Havercroft thanked for creating theatmosphere during the Conference which allowed to cross the language borders.
Dr. Tenney speaking for USA delegation said that looking back into the history of
the Conferences we indeed have created such a momentum which cannot be
stopped anymore and this contributed also to the success of this Conference.
The VII ICNDT can be definitely counted to one of the successful ones. In spiteof the difficulties which every organiser has to meet, Dr. Pawlowski made an
excellent and human job, therefore Dr. Tenney expressed his heartiest
congratulations. Prof. Hauk joined to the speakers before and asked alldelegates to spend applause for the Polish Delegation.
Dr. Pawlowski expressed his best thanks for the high appreciation of the VII
ICNDT.
4. Organisational Procedures Dealing with the Preparation of theInternational Conference on NDTThis item was included into the agenda according to Dr. Tenney’s request
expressed in his letter of February 20th, 1973. Dr. Pawlowski suggested tocreate a three person Task Group for preparing guidelines on the organisational
procedures of the NDT Conferences. In the Task Group the Presidents of thelast two conferences, i.e. the VI ICNDT and the VII ICNDT should take part as
those having the newest experience.
In order to make the work of the Task Group very effective Dr. Tenney agreed
to prepare the draft of the guidelines and to consult it with two former Presidents
of ICNDT, i.e. Prof Hauk and Dr. Pawlowski.
Mr. Stanger put the motion, seconded by Mr. Havercroft and Prof. deMeester, to establish the Task Group which should be composed of Dr. Tenney,Prof. Hauk and Dr. Pawlowski. The motion was supplemented by Prof. Hauk byadding that the Task Group should compile the final report and send it back to alldelegates for comments. This report should be prepared during the first year of
the coming tenue of ICNDT. The motion was accepted by the majority ofdelegates. (one vote against).

5. Other Business
Dr. Pawlowski read the report of the ad hoc Task Group consisting of Prof.
Bastien, Prof. Hauk, Dr. Pawlowski and Dr. Tenney (cf. Minutes of the Ninth
Meeting of IC NDT) concerning the honouration of merited members of theInternational Committee for NDT.
The report said (encl.1)
1. It will of no need to establish an honouration as a fixed installation of whatkind ever.

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2. It is up to the President in charge to honour a merited retiring or retired IC
NDT member at the occasion of a meeting of this Committee in accordance withthe last two Presidents and approved by this Committee (no answer means notvoting)
3. The personality to be honoured should have been active through several
congress periods in promoting the abjectives of the International Committee for
NDT.
4. The honouration can be done by letter, a diploma or a present and is to beregistered.
5. Answering the question put by Prof. de Meester, Prof. Hauk explainedthat the quantity of positive answers supporting the honouration of merited
members should be more that 50% of voting delegates. THe question of themerited members of ICNDT should be included into the agenda at the nextmeeting.
Mr. Stanger proposed two changes in the report. In point 2 to add: “…andapproved by more than half of this Committee”, and in point 4 to change for“…and is to be minuted”.
The proposals were accepted by all delegates.
Dr. Pawlowski distributed among the delegates and read the paper of theInternational Publishing Company, England, (IPC), concerning the sponsorship of
the journal of Non-Destructive Testing by the ICNDT. Dr. Pawlowski explained,that Mr. Dawes, the manager of LPC, had assured that IPC would be very keen
to publish any statement and news arising from the International Committee forNDT.
Prof. Hauk mentioned that in the minutes of the last meeting the necessity of
publishing the information have been stressed and some suggestions made.
According to Prof. Hauk, decision how to publish information concerning the NDT
problems should be taken by all countries separately and there was no reason to
publish everything by the IPC. Every country should be free to selectg themeans of publication of any statement.
Prof. Hauk, seconded by Mr. Stanger, put forward the motion that the ICNDT
should be open, without granting the sponsorship, to all journals willing to publish
the NDT information.
Coming back to the discussion during the Ninth Meeting Dr. Pawlowski put
the proposal to send a telegram to the European Organisation for Quality
Control. The telegram reedited after the meeting by Prof. Hauk, Dr. Tenney andDr. Pawlowski read as follows:“ The International Committee for Nondestructive Testing met during theSeventh International Conference in Warszawa in June 1973. The Committee
extends its best greetings and wishes for a successful Seventeenth Quality
Conference of the European Organisation for Quality Control. Our Committee
representing 26 countries is charged with the promotino of international
collaboration in all matters relating to the development and use of nondestructivetesting.

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We are prepared to handle any of your problems of projects within theframework of our own organisation.”
Z. Pawlowski
President of International Committee for Nondestructive Testing
The telegram was dispatched on 8th June 1973.
Mr. Bosselaar announced about a joint meeting of German Society for NDT inMay 1974. Prof. Hauk gave the date of the next Meeting of the German Societyfor NDT which will be held in Salzburg this year. Mr. Stanger transmitted anadvanced information on Quality Control Conference in London next year. Dr.
Pawlowski said that the “Second Seminar on Physics of NDT” will be organisedby the Polish Academy of Sciences in next year and proposed to exchange
similar information among delegates as soon as possible. Dr. Pawlowski
informed about the letter received from Mr.P. Manna, India, describing India’s
activity in the NDT field.
The venue of IX ICNDT, which probably will be held in Australia in 1979, wasthen discussed. Taking into account the great distance and costs to go toAustralia, Dr. Schumacher proposed to arrange the European Conference on
NDT of international character. After a long discussion the delegates agreed inprincipal that the IX ICNDT will be in Australia and gave their support to Australia
in organising the IX ICNDT. However, the final decision on the IX ICNDT can betaken only in France in 1976, as it arises from the Terms of Reference. It wasagreed also to arrange the European Conference one year before or one yearafter, should the IX ICNDT be held in Australia in 1979.
At the end of the meeting Prof. Bastien thanked for the confidence given toFrance by granting the organization of the VIII ICNDT and invited the delegatesto come to France in 1976.
Dr. Pawlowski closing the meeting extended again best thanks for the words
of appreciation given during this meeting for the organisation of VII ICNDT,acknowledged the delegates for their cooperation and the spirit they helped tocreate during the VII ICNDT, and wished all delegates much success in theirprofessional work.
Encl: Report of ad Hoc Task Group “Honouration of Merited Members of theInternational Committee for NDT”
Warszawa, June 6,1973
Enclosure 1.
REPORT
Of ad Hoc Task Group: “Honouration of Merited Members of the International
Committee for NDT”
Members: P. Bastien, V. Hauk, Z. Pawlowski, G.H. Tenney
1. It will be of no need to establish an honouration as a fixed installation ofwhat kind ever.
2. It is up to the President in charge to honour a merited retiring or retired IC
NDT member at the occasion of a meeting of this committee inaccordance with the two last Presidents and approved more than half ofthis Committee (no answer means not voting)48

3. The personality to be honoured should have been active through several
congress periods in promoting the objectives of the InternationalCommittee.
4. The honouration can be done by letter, a diploma or a present and is to beminuted.

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