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Well I learnt the hard way with a three month topic ban on Ayn Rand articles dealing with the american equivalents of Irvine22 (and by whose standards Irvine22 is mild).  The ""call a spade a spade"" issue was unfortunate.  Either way his/her latest escapades earned a weeks block, the next will be longer.  However I see that Rockpocket is setting him/her up with new targets   TALK  "