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I have tweaked my request to be more clear on that point. interestingly I was composing a note to you which got  with your message above. in the aNi, you discussed 1938 and said that was prior to the holocaust. I do not believe that is the (universally) accepted definition. The holocaust often taken to be more than just the ""final solution"" our own article on the topic goes significantly into nuremberg laws and other repressions happening in the '33-'35 range. In this sense, I was using Holocaust to mean ""the whole of negative actions taken by the nazi's against the jews"" and not referring specifically to gassing/cremation/etc. (Would this be helpful to clarify in my unblock?)    "