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I don't think that you understand that all of the information that you've obtained from your ""sources"" (most of which are defunct) originally obtained that information from Clan Young Officers. If wikipedia's point is to be historically accurate, you must remove this page along with many other pages about Clans that were founded recently. If your point is to rehash a list of Scottish Clans, you need to relax a little and accept data from the sources that created the data. I'll say this very slowly: Clan Young was founded in 1988. It never existed before that. Now... please explain to me why YOUR opinion about ""Og"" may stand while the opinion of a Past President of Clan Young does not. Because it comes from an out of print $250 paperback written by someone who merely obtains material for travel guides from legitimate publications such as provided by Douglas (http://clanyoung.com/).  In any case, Since ""Og"" is now acceptable, perhaps you'd like to clear up the smears applied to me by that jackass, Brianann MacAmhlaidh, and maybe transfer and apply the bans and reprimands to him...   "