to be honest, i've kind of been bullied into acknowledging your views on notabilty, and to insult my intelligence does not fare well for the image of your encyclopedia. and also, i don't even understand why you'd pose the quandry of 'existence vs notability' to me - you fully just made that question up, as if its a common point of contradiction... perhaps it is, and we've now shed some light on it, but that's not really the reason that i've been involved in this conversation