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Why do you think that animal liberation movement is a ""fringe"" term? It gets 38,000 Google hits. Why should the lead include the phrase ""animal rights activists? It says ""activists,"" and this is an article about the animal rights movement, so it's probably not referring to anti-abortion activists. I have no idea what you mean by your research showing etc. It sounds like your OR. We don't need a separate list of activists, for reasons that have been explained several times by several people, people on both sides of the pro- and anti-AR divide. Please provide a source for your ""standard approach,"" because I genuinely don't know what you mean. I didn't give you information from 1975; as the citation makes clear, there was an edition in 1990. Do you have a source showing there's a significant number of meat-eaters in the AR movement? That would be astonishing. I don't run the wikiproject, and why would it have to be a descendent of any other project? We have neutral editors; we have pro editors; we have anti editors. Honestly, V, I don't know what you're trying to achieve, but I can't keep responding to these comments.  (talk) "