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Tuf-Kat, I'm tired. I do not care at all. None cares of these underground genres. Old Electronic music and New Age fans do not need and do not use Wikipedia as primary source. New ""electronic music"" fans, simply ignore or really can't understand differences and proper analogies between genres. So, ther is no point to fill this gap. Though there are thousands people sharing my ""point of view"", there is no way to involve them in a ""battle"" against younger Wikiusers. Feel free to do what you want. Wikipedia is only a stupid game, I'm no longer interested in contributing on these topics. Usually, users that remove dispute templates are immediately banned, but these harrassers aren't yet. Maybe Wikipedia is theirs and none else has to touch their toy. Enjoy it. I'll not post anything else on music genres. Bye.  "