But you must admit you do generally seem to show a distaste for any new Indonesian articles or anything less than B class quality articles..... - crap, misrepresentation - there are no maintenance minded eds left working in the Indonesian project to do the boring bits - I am simply not doing it anymore - simple as that - just daily watching of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AlexNewArtBot/IndonesiaSearchResult can bring on hernias when you see the crap coming through - the i refuse to communicate editors of unknown quantity who add tons of pointless soccer stubs and non english english eds who add stubs with no follow up is far more toxic than you or merridew are capable of (at least you guys speak) - I just do not wish to get involved in dealing with large numbers of new regency or other conflagarations with no project tag or no references and dubious category trees (there is a parallel category issue from thelast big addition a year or so ago that no one has even considered) - In the end you and merridew are not really the problem - I just have given up on the crap that goes into the project - real life has far more challenging issues - cheers  Suro