and jguk, could you also please discuss, before you go over the article with a lawnmower? This isn't some dilapidated unwatched piece, we have been carefully navigating it around looming edit-wars, before you came crashing it. e.g. we decided to have a separate Proto-Elamite article, after lengthy discussion, which you could kindly review before undoing it.  (ᛏ) 9 July 2005 13:17 (UTC)