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But there's something I really don't understand here - doesn't the notability have to be established in the article? This whole ""come on, we all know it's Google etc."" argument, in meta-discussions not backed up in the article, make me genuinely uneasy. I had to bully the most vocal opponenet of Go!, and proponent of Go, into actually lowering himself to making positive contributions to the Go article, instead of throwing him weight around outside it. There's something very wrong with this when it leaves an article on the site that indefinitely fails to justify its own inclusion when I'm working hard, challenge after challenge, to defend a language I honestly believe is of note.   "