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Linux vs GNU/Linux

2004-05-31 23:45, Hi David Gerard

You seem to have removed all the clarifications of the previously vague text.  Encyclopedia's should be impartial and correct.  You have put back all the confused use of ""Linux"", and removed spelling/grammar corrections.  Really the Linux distributions entry should be clear about what it is and impartial to any of your leanings.  The version you have reverted to is an umbrella description which could be read as matching more than it in fact does.  The text should reflect correct and actual use of the term, including any that others may consider incorrect; it just should not blot out either/or as it does mostly at present.

Ok, and for the other minor revisions you removed:

eg -> e.g.
(""eg"" is just incorrectly spelt, e.g. is the abbreviation of latin ""exampli gratia"" and should be written ""e.g."" see OED for reference please.)

predetermined -> pre-determined

preconfigure -> pre-configure
(requires hyphen as conjoined words)

PCs -> IBM compatible PCs
(PCs is an abbreviation of ""Personal Computers"", this case only refers to IBM compatible PCs.  Not Apple PCs for example.  So presently )

""..targeted for China."" -> "".. targeted at the Chinese market.""
(grammar is simply wrong)

In the Xandros section:
commercial -> proprietary
(Are you unaware that GNU/Linux is typically commercial so the ""commercial"" point is irrelevant, the relevant point is that it is PROPRIETARY commercial software.  There is  no point emphasising  a pointless piece of information.)

cooperation -> co-operation
(requires hyphen as conjoined words)

If you hold some position of seniority here please consider putting my clarifications back in.  At least consider the grammatical and spelling revisions if you are intent on the ""Linux"" use being unsuitable as present.

Glad to see you did not revert my Proprietary software revision.

My comments in this post are intended to be polite, please do not consider my explanations patronising.

Cheers, now3d

I don't hold a position of editorial seniority; there isn't any such thing. However, the Linux to GNU/Linux stuff is clearly partisanism and POV-pushing. Please reread Talk:Linux and Talk:GNU/Linux naming controversy. And NPOV. In English, ""Linux"" is far and away the most common name for what you (and I) would prefer to be called ""GNU/Linux""; pretending it isn't would not (to my mind) be appropriate.

Typos: ""eg"" you're right on, the others I think are arguable either way. I'll have a look through -  13:00, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've had a go. The facts seem more or less in order (I could dispute a few bits), but the whole article is really badly written and needs serious rewriting by someone who's a good writer in English. I'll make an attempt later, but anyone else who wants a go is of course welcome ...

In the distro list, I've attempted to avoid Linux vs GNU/Linux by sticking to the word ""distribution"", and only included one or the other when it's part of the name or when GNU is actually optional (does Linux from Scratch still tell you how to use BusyBox and uClibc, for instance?).

Further work on this article is desperately needed, and I mean a lot more than tweaks of hyphenation -  16:48, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for applying those gramatical revisions.  I just added co-operation. Regards, User:Now3d

 Jimbo Wales on GNU/Linux as the correct naming convention. 

""I would like to offer my opinion. The project to excise all references to GNU/Linux is deeply POV and wrong. It should be reverted completely and totally as quickly as possible. Virtually all references to Linux should be references to GNU/Linux. I am certainly unaware of any community consensus which would support the draconian and absurd campaign that has been conducted against the correct naming convention"".Jimbo Wales (talk) 

  

Why is this article move protected so that it can't be given the correct name?  (said · done) 

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