@ we have been over the prophethood bit long ago, please see the archives of talkpages here, at the Ahmadiyyah article and at the Prophethood (Ahmadiyya) article. There is a long standing consensus on that matter which cannot be changed by your views. so I will not even start to discuss it with you unless you have something new to add which has not been covered by previous discussions. As for your view that muslims do not consider him to be the founder of their faith just do a quick google search. Amina Adil calls him founder, so do these guys [v 1], 2, 3. Just look through this google search, there are a lot of muslim writers. So I am not sure where this started from. now as I have given you sources as per WP:BURDEN it is your duty to provide reliable sources which say that he is not considered the founder by muslims, then we can compare them. ty for the opinion. Regards