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I like the wording you have there now, Gordy. ...as a catch-all term, may refer to two related but separate sports: rugby league and rugby union as well as several other sports derived from them. This category is for articles about rugby football prior to the 1895 schism that split the sport into the modern games of rugby union and rugby league and for articles about sports that derive from first laws of rugby drawn up in 1871. But you are right about consensus, always a good thing! Cheers, •''''''•leave a note• "