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why don't we try and add more substance to some sections and add maybe one of those. metallica and nirvana are music relative . zines and moshing are fan relative . Hardcore Punk is about Music Essentially, without music there would be nothing to ""mosh"" to nor anything to write about . I would never want to delete people who helped define genres, by influencing other influencers . Such as metallica . The page is about Hardcore Punk and its sub genres. Not too much about gloves, clothes, chewing gum, watches, moshing, sneakers . that stuff has its own page and pages and really doesn't ""define"" the Sound of which is Hardcore Punk . Whats your take on it . 68.39.152.45  "