If the effect of demonstrating the operation of majority pov against the wishes of Irish editors is to cause the pov-pushers to become more entrenched, so be it. For 7 years the approach you are advocating (whatever it is) has failed to change a thing. I have outlined the compromises I have made and am prepared to make. But I'll not be bullied into denying reality. By you or anyone else. Next time you launch a personal attack on me, expect a reply in kind.