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Sorry.  It just seemed we were being stonewalled with a ""take a look at the RfC as it explans it all if you have a spare week to read it all and even figure out where to look in the first place; now go away"".  Seems I was wrong and I apologise for that.  On a personal note, I have just been made redundant from work and am a little angry about that.  No excuse for taking it out on the editors here, though, I agree.  Maybe a nice can of cold beer and a little snooze afterwards?... yes sounds good to me.  Then I'll start over, if I may? )  clipman "