"DUDE, i am 53, and possess degrees in philosophy, science and theologyfrom Notre Dame, not from a vo-tech where you likely went after finally getting your GED.

You offer rejoinders to my points without ever having addressed them.  Clearly you are unfamiliar with Pope John XXIII, the pontiff who facilitated Vatican II in the early 1960's, and who intentionally refused to refer to the Catholic Church as the ""Roman"" Catholic Church.  It is equally patently obvious you know nothing about Father McBrien or Charles Whitehead.  Are you incapable of reading above a fifth-grade level, or do you just lack the capacity for intelligent thought?  What's most remarkable is that rather than take solace in your own self-assured beliefs, you repeatedly return to this forum in a juvenile effort to have the last word.  i have one last word for you:  chill.  Again, grow up and grow deep.  We in the Catholic Church forgive you for your obstinance and your ignorance.

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