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The abandonment of the site is simply original research (you are taking the lack of updates to be evidence of abandonment, yet there is nothing actually stating abandonment - this is original research). You need to cite a source specifically saying the site has been abandoned - I do not believe such a source exists. Right now we have the Kickstarter as a source stating that he plans to continue Goats. This contradicts any notions abandonment. Are we actually arguing about this? If you have a gripe about the Rosenberg discontinuing Goats then here is not the place for it. Яehevkor ✉ "