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I think that saying that nobody has a problem with VK except John is hyperbole. I had (and continue to have) a problem with VK seeming not to be able to take advice or rational guidance from other Wikipedians and being offensive when he ""reasons"" his point of view. Sorry for butting in but I have to call it like it is. What's the point of being on probation if the probationer is unwilling to learn from past mistakes of behaviour?...(kiwiexile at DMOZ)  • "