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btw, here are some google numbers: ""Ben Pon"": 60.000, ""Ben Pon senior"": 40.000, ""Ben Pon junior"": 20.000. This doesn't proove anything concerning which of the two is more mentioned, since I believe most of the ""Ben Pon"" relate to the father, and alot of the links in general are Wikipedia related. However, the 20.000 links related to junior do proove in my opnion that the name is used. Sincerely,   "