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That is seeming to be a sticking point, but it's not a big deal  it's modeled after two things we already have  ""discussion"" pages like afd, rfc, rfb, mfd, etc.(that's the lower house) and the arbcom(that's the upper house). I'm just saying that instead of deletions or granting sysops, the focus is on policies and guidelines instead, and the two work in concert. afist "