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Please review WP:CIVIL specifically, ""Taunting; deliberately pushing others to the point of breaching civility even if not seeming to commit such a breach themselves."" Again, MSM does not refer to biological sex... how would one even define that? as covered in the TS/TG articles already, there is no ""biological sex"".  What is the biological sex of a woman with CAIS?  Is she MSM just because she has a Y chromosome and sleeps with men?  No, MSM refers to specific behaviors that MSM have, and TS/TG do not.  TS/TG have different behaviors that still tend to put them in the risk column.  Now, to kind of give a rough gross and entirely unscientific example, if BBL Theory were true, then autogynephiles would be MSM, but homosexual transsexuals would not... um. Ok, homosexual transsexuals would not be MSM post-surgery. I'm sorry, but my ""biological gender"" is female. There is no doubt in my mind that I had insufficient androgens during my natal period and came out under-virilized.  When the brain (evidenced by my parents that I never acted correctly as a ""boy"") and the external body are in conflict... personally, I can't, and I don't know why you could, say that the external body wins out.    "