Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
CMP: Oh, I don't know, over by Cinco they're not that obvious. They are further around to the west, but I'm not sure that recognize the first terrace. They might recognize Cinco.
CMP: Okay. I'11 get the IMAGE MOTION now.
CC: Okay. You're 10 seconds to a - T-stop.
CMP: Roger. Standing by for T-stop.
CMP: Okay. Stand by. And we're barber pole on the IMAGE MOTION.
CC: Okay. And the lens is stowed; you can go PC off, Ken.
CMP: Okay. PAN CAMERA power is off.
CMP: Boy, these - these -
CC: And we'd like HIGH GAIN, AUTO, Ken.
CMP: You'd swear that - Sure thing. You'd swear that you ought to be able to see the I_ with these binoculars. I think if you knew where to look exactly, you might be able to see it. But you couldn't hold anything in your hand any more sensi- tive. I'11 tell you, the Cinco craters stand out very nicely and the Crest crater is very obvious from up here. But it looks like the path you've drawn that goes from station 5 to 6 and 4 - that path looks to me like it runs down sort of a tongue of material. That you can drive up it - and that those white lines we've got drawn on chart 9 Charlie - really aren't obvious at all. When you get over around more in the South Ray side you start to see these things, but it's Just not at all obvious that they're going to see any- thing - down that path.
CMP: They got a good system; they should be able to find Cinco.
CC: Okay. Now I heard earlier that you could see Double Spot with binocs. Does that sound right, Ken?
CMP: I'11 tell you, it's - they're really neat.
CC: Okay. And I'm sure that they passed on to you that the LM should be 200 meters northwest of Double Spot.
CMP: Yeah. I Just - Every t.ime I've gone over, I've been looking for something that I thought was probably more worthwhile than Just the gee whiz of m_¢ saying I saw the LM.
CC: Yeah. I agree with that priority.
CMP: I wish they - I really wish we'd gotten into North Ray - _ybe they'11 still get a chance, because it looks to me like a - that's a pretty interesting path up there. Interesting from the fact that it looks like it's constructional - the ridge that runs up to North Ray crater.
CMP: You know that central peak that we've all been looking at in Albategnius and thinking it was so big? It can't be so terribly big because - at least, it can't be terribly tall because it is Just now sticking its nose up in the daylight. And the terminator passed here a long time ago.
CC: Okay. Good observation, Ken.
CMP: Boy, that straight wall really shows up from here. Just so they know that's a pretty interesting thing. It's interesting enough to rate number 36.
CC: Okay. And I guess you're rocking on, ready for your terminator photos here of Guericke.
CMP: Yes. I'm sitting waiting to get a little closer to them. I got Lassell, Albategnius B all lined up and boresighted. Tape'84/25 ·Page 917
CC: Golly.
CMP: There's a lot more of these sharp depressions. I don't know whether to call them grabens or what, but these - these little sharp lines that run across - there's a lot more of them than I'd guessed you'd find.
CC: I suspect that they are showing - -
CMP: And there's Lassell C.
CC: - - up now in the low Sun angle?
CMP: Yes They really stand out in low Sun. One of the things - I'm looking at one right here that's next to Lassell C_ I'm going to start my strip and talk a little while I'm doing it. And that's at a - one that's Just to the north of Lassell C in that highlands clump that's next to it there. And - it looks like in the low Sun, on the outside of it, you see all kinds of craters. You know, the typical low Sun angle pictures of crater pat- terns. Oh, down in the floor of this thing it's Just as smooth as a whistle. Like someone had drug a - something heavy through there and Just made a deep impression.
CC: Okay. Got you.
CMP: You know it's not real obvious whether I see the end point of that ' strip. The thing we've drawn I think I see - but it looks like an awful lot of other craters in this low Sun. We'11 have to wait until a higher Sun to see if it really is different.
CMP: Okay. Magazine SS is now reading 47.
CC: Forty-seven on SS.
CMP: Okay. It's time for a little GAMMA RAY DEPLOY.
CMP: MARK. It's coming out.
CC: Okay. We got your MARK.
CDR: Okay. I'm - I'11 turn it off. Well - it looked to me like in 12 seconds and I still had a barber pole. Let's say I retract it and try again.
CMP: Oh, wait a minute. That thing was already 15 inches out. That's what it is. Okay.
CMP: Am I correct?
CMP: Okay. I Just - my tape in this dim light, I had the lights turned down, I didn't see the tape until it was already out.
CMP: That sort of m_kes it sim by 5 - casper O.
CC: And, Ken. Before you put your Flight Plan away there to exercise, I'd like to remind you of some- thing here.
CMP: All righty. Go ahead.
CC: Okay. If you want to turn over to 129:25, there about s.
CC: Okay. You'11 see the - the write-in change there that may look f_mny to you, but w e really want those steps done. And what we're doing is turning the IMAGE MOTION OFF for that pass and that's why it's a little out of the ordinary.
CMP: Roger. I understand. This is - the purpose of this was so that they can get a calibration on just how much motion comes with that. They can tell where the zero point and smear comes on the film. Is that correct? That's Just a gee-whiz thing.
CMP: The information is gee whiz to me; I guess it's important to the people who have to make maps _-_ out of the stuff. TaP; 8h/27
CMP: Okay. And anything else before I do myself in?
CC: No. About the only other thing I've got, Ken, is your - your temperature for the sleep period. I guess there are a couple of things we could do, like we could leave some power on to increase the load, or we could try to move the T_ IN _lve or we could - I guess you don't have any -
CMP: I'm sorry. I wasn't meaning to be complaining. I was merely wanting to record a remark that there was a significant change in the cabin. Sometime starting yesterday, sometime, and I don't know when - compared to what we had had. And that was not Something that I was asking for relief on. It's very comfortable.
CMP: Sorry if somebody put any time on it.
CC: No. It's no problem and - -
CMP: No, I Just - -
CC: - - was Just glad you're happy.
CMP: I thought it was kind of interesting. Yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting and I don't know whether it's because I'm in a 60-mile orbit or whether it's because there is only one guy in here adding heat to the atmosphere. I guess we'11 decide that when John and Charlie climb in.
CC: One explanation is that you lost two roommates; but, also, my cabin ran what I thought a little chilly, and do you notice it getting a - gets a little clRmmy going through dark pass?
CMP: Well, it's not doing so bad today. Yesterday, in the dark passes, all the windows were fogging up and every time I'd breath I had t ° go wipe the window off. Looked like I was standing in front of a pet store. And I haven't had that trouble today at all. And it looks like it's slowly drying itself out. We had an awful lot of condensation in here - showed up during - after LOI. All down in the suit bay was a great big puddle of water, and we had not been aware of any collection of water anywhere before that. But it had obviously been there. It didn't come out of the tunnel, but it Just sort of finally all condensed. And any time you go in to clean out the suit circuit return screen, why, down in the bottom of that compartment you can see that there's a - there's condensation on some of the lines and there's a little moisture in the bottom of the compartment.
CC: Okay. We got those. And I'11 not talk to you for a while here. You can have at it.
CMP: Okay. As a courtesy, I'11 turn VOX off too.
CMP: Hey, Stu.
CMP: Do you folks have any - if you don't have anything more to pass up on this pass, I'11 set my alarm clock here to remind me Just before LOS, but I'd c......L ·kind of like to take my carrier off during the exercise period if that wouldn't bother any- body.
CC: No. That's - that's fine with us.
CMP: Okay. I've got my tone booster hooked up. And if you want me, send a crew alert and I'11 come talk to you.
CC: Okay. We can handle that. And looks like we have nothing else. And if you come up before LOS, fine; if not, we'11 see you around.
CMP: Okay. See you in a little bit.
CC: Okay. And if I miss you at LOS, I do want to remind you about - you've got to configure the DSE on this pass. ape8/29
CMP: Roger. I've got my kitchen clock set for that.
CC: Roger. Just wanted to confirm that you guys are recharging the PLSSs. We're showing a little high water usage and assumed that was the case.
CDR: No, we're not. We were just drinking a lot. We're filling drink bags, Juice bags, and food, Houston.
CC: Okay, fine. We're Just a little ginchy down here based on previous experience with the leak. f
CDR: Well, we - we looked back - just looked back in the back-on - to try to find a lost item, and we looked all through the back end. And there's - there's some condensation on the ECS side, but there's no leaks back there.
CC: Okay, everybody's happy.
CC: Orion, if we're not disturbing your dinner there, would you comment on whether you found anything that accounted for that hot mike situation a while back?
CDR: Well, unless it was a stuck mike button. That's the only thing we can think of because our corem configuration was normal.
LMP-LM: Sorry about that, but it - it's terrible being on a hot mike here sometimes.
CC: Well, you gt_fs have done cowwnendably well, con- sidering the fact that you didn't know you were on it. I'm very happy with your - -
LMP: Thank you. (Laughter)
CC: I wish we could say the same for some of the people down here. r-
LMP: Houston, we getting ready to start the PLSS 02 and H2 recharge. Has an hour passed since our initial 02 recharge? Over.
LMP-LM: You're clipping a little bit. Say again.
CC: Roger. Go ahead. You're clear.
UNKNOWN: Okay; Houston. We're gonna start the water re- charge right now.
UNKNOWN: Okay; we've started the water fill. Give us a hack at 5 minutes, please, Houston. ,-
CC: Go ahead, Orion. Houston here.
LMP-LM: Roger. If all goes according to schedule on this plan you sent up, what would be our total lunar surface stay time?
CC: About 19 hours. Oh, you're talking about surface stay time. I'm sorry; I'm giving you EVA time. Well, hang on a second. We'11 have to figure that one out.
LMP-LM: Appreciate it, Boss.
CC: Okay, Charlie. You've got 5 minutes, and your total lunar surface time would be about 71 hours, in round numbers.
LMP-LM: Thank - thank you, boss.
CC: Roger. (NO CO_ FOR 36 MINUTES)
CDR: Okay, Charlie's charging his PLSS with water, and he Just started 5 minutes about - 5 seconds ago.
CDR-LM: Can you keep time on that for us, Houston?
CC: Roger. Got her running.
CDR-LM: Okay. What is this water problem that - that Charlie's telling me you think we've got? Should we start looking for leaks?
CC: No. Relax on that, John. They Just noticed a higher than normal usage and, you know, we had that leak - I guess it was on 15 - that we dis- when covered there people were resting. Just wanted to make sure that you weren't doing some- thing that was using high usage.
CDR-LM: Okay. We were drinking plenty of it, I'11 tell you that.
CC: Well, it's good for you. How's the temperature on it? Does it taste pretty good?
CDR-LM: Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, it's good water. It really is.
LMP-LM: I never thought - never thought water had a flavor to it, but this has really got a good flavor.
CC: That's that good high-calorie iodine in it that does that for you.
CDR-LM: That's probably what we really need.
CC: Yeah, you guys earned a good shot, there, today. Wish we had something a little stronger to give yOU.
LMP-LM: You just keep it on the cooler, boss. We'11 be back and get out - take you up on that.
CDR: I'11 - I'11 tell you that's really - that's really a nice place to work, once you get out in the open like that. That is really something.
CC: Yeah, that was pretty impressive. Looked real great on the TV, and you guys did a real beautiful Job there.
CC: Looks like you were lucky to find a place big enough to land in.
CDR-LM: Yeah, I - I've got second thoughts, right now, as to whether or not that was luck or skill. I thought it was being pretty skillful because I could see all the way to the - I could see all the way to the ground and then we got out - and I noticed that we were kind of close to a crater, so I went forward a little. Then we got out and, shoot, we hadn't landed more than about 10 feet beyond this big thing.
CC: That's pure skill and cunning, John.
CDR: And it - That's right. I didn't realize we'd come in so close to it. I think I was backing up Just a hair before we - before we landed, although the - although the probe seemed to have broke straight up and down.
CC: Roger. Sounds like you had essentially no veloc- ity, except vertical.
LMP: That - and, Deke, the landing didn't seem that hard, but we must have stroked the gear. The - the bell is about 10 inches off - less than that - about 4 or 5 inches off the ground. But the MESA was sitting right on the ground. We had to pick it way up, and the ALSEP was less than eye level, really.
CC: Well, it could be our simulation isn't all that good, either.
CC: Okay, we got the 5 minutes on your PLSS there.
CDR-LM: I just did that so the gt_s on the ground would know when we were using this water this much.
CC: Roger. Good idea.
CDR-LM: We completed the - and we've completed the both - the charges of - both PLSSs now.
CDR-LM: We're scheduling another EVA in 2 or 3 hours here.
CC: Well, if you're ready to run, we could probably work that out in about an hour or so.
CDR: It's amazing how much better you feel once you sit around for a couple of hours afterwards. Boy, when we got in we were pretty - pretty well con- vinced that we couldn't do a heck of a lot more, but I think - it's just like any other training exer- cise. Once you sit around for a couple of hours, you're ready to go again. I think we are.
CC: Roger. Well, we got a nice casual schedule from here, so you might as well power down and get a good 8 hours of snoozing. You'11 reallY feel like it in the morning.
CDR-LM: That's what we're going to do.
CC: How are the fingers feeling at this point? A little better?
UNKNOWN: Yeah, that - that's - my fingers - it wasn't my fingers so much as my knuckles. I - I don't really Lmderstand it, but - it's going to be very inter- esting to see what - what I can do with them.
LMP-LM: Houston, Orion. Whose biomed do you want to watch tonight?
CC: Okay, biomed on the right-hand side, Charlie.
LMP-LM: Okay, you going to watch me again tonight?
CC: Yeah, you apparently painted a pretty picture for them. They like you.
CDR-LM: Okay, Houston; this is John. I'm going to be on corem tonight. I'm going to get Charlie some good sleep. Okay?
CC: Okay, fine. Yeah, that wasn't anything magic about our input there.
CDR-LM: Yeah, he - he got good sleep last night, as a matter of fact, and so did I.
CC: Roger. That's correct. We agree.
LMP-LM: Couldn't ever believe we'd go to sleep, Deke, but, man, this guy John sleeps like a baby up here. I've never seen it.
CC: It sounds like the best place in the world to sleep. I wish I was with you.
CDR-LM: We do too, boss.
CC: Roger. We've got a short Flight Plan update for tomorrow. Here's some miscellaneous items if you want to go ahead and take them now.
UNKNOWN: Stand by about 20 seconds.
CC: Okay. This is in your checklist, 3-7, right-hand side of the page, following "Empty ETB," where it shows "1 - HCEX Mag B," delete that line.
CC: Okay, and then add that line down further on the page where it says "Stow in ETB" add "l - HCEX Mag B."
CC: Okay. On the left-side page about halfway down, where you have "Book for revs 25 through 31," that is now "34 to 39." And the two lines below that, I believe, have already been deleted, but double- check that.
UNKNOWN: Okay, 34 to 39, and you're right, Deke. We already deleted that.
CC: Okay, now page 3-8, right-hand side, halfway down. Delete tw O lines: . " Change LM ECS, lithium hydroxide cartridge"; and then the one below it, "Stow used cartridge with BsLqs Bag."
CC: Okay, on 3-9, delete the whole page.
UNKNOWN: We got it. Go ahead.
CC: Okay. 4-3. Get your EVA cue prep card on this one, and we'11 enter those all on that page.
CC: Okay. On the right side of the card, in the mid- dle, after comm. These are all add-ons. There's about six line items of add-on under there, which we have fit on our card. You'11 have to start up above that column to do it. First is "S-BAND MOD PM."
UNKNOWN: Okay, keep reading them.
LMP: I got that, "S-BAND PM."
CC: Okay. Next, "TRANSMITTER/RECEIVER, SECONDARY; POWER AMP, SECONDARY; VOICE, DOWN VOICE BACKUP; PCM, PCM, RANGE, OFF." Okay, then down about five lines there, TIM BIOMED, where it says "OFF," should be "LEFT," and three lines below there, where it says "RECORDER, ON," should be "OFF."
UNKNOWN: Okay, copy. S-BAND to PM; POWER AMP to SECONDARY; TRANSMITTER/RECEIVER, SECONDARY; DOWN VOICE BACKUP; PCM to PCM; ranging OFF, TET.EMETRY, LEFT; and RECORDER, scratch.
CC: Affirmative. Okay, next change is 5-3. And on 5-3, right-hand column, battery management. Delete that whole column.
UNKNOWN: Okay, deleted.
CC: Roger. Okay, page 5-4. Left col,,mu, bottom of the page, the last two lines. Delete "TIM PCM - LO_" and "S-BAND VOICE DOWN to VOICE BACKUP."
CC: Okay. Then on the bottom of the right-hand side, three lines up from the bottom: CABIN GAS RETURN, where it is "AUTO," change to "OPEN."
CC: Okay, page 5-5, middle left-hand column. Delete "Stow IM ECS lithium hydroxide in bracket aft of engine cover." And bottom of the page - -
CC: Roger. Bottom of the page, where it's "Rev 32-36," should now be "Revs 40 to 45." Okay, next change is - -
CC: Okay, next change is 5-6, bottom of the page. Below "MCC-H CONFERENCE," add "15B:45; change I_4 ECS lithium hydroxide cartridge and stow cartridge in bracket and jett bag."
LMP-LM: Okay, at 15B:45, we change the LiOH, and we stow the cartridge and the bracket in the jett bag.
CC: That's affirmative. And then same page, top of the right-hand, eliminate "PRO, BO-VERB 37 ENTER," that line and also "STANDBY light-on." And that's all the changes we have here.
LMP-LM: Okay, fine. Next line down, that "ECS for sleep" - we'11 go CABIN GAS RETURN to OPEN again, Deke.
CC: Okay, and stand by l, here. I believe we've got a corem configuration they wanted to change on you. Just a second.
CC: Okay. Orion, Houston.
CC: Okay, we're going to try a configuration change here on your comm to save a little power trying to hold LO BIT RATE with an 85-foot dish and - which means select LO BIT RATE; VOICE, OFF; open the POWER AMP circuit breaker; and wait about 4 minutes. And then return to the opposite con- figuration. Do not touch the POWER AMP switch, and you'11 have no corem during this period of 4 minutes. Want me to go back through that slow?
UNKNOWN: Yeah, could you run through it again slow?
CC: Okay, you can go LOW BIT RATE. And you can do that right now.
CC: Okay, stand by 1. Okay, now you can go VOICE, OFF. At the conclusion of that, of course, we'11 be out of contact with you. Open the POWER AMP stand circuit breaker end then by for 4 minutes. Then return to the original configuration. f
CDR-LM: Okay, we got it.
CC: Orion, Houston. You can now turn VOICE, ON again; close the POWER AMP. Apparently their little test didn't work.
LMP-LM: Okay, Houston; Orion. We're back up in comm con- figuration. How do you read? Over.
CC: Roger. Read you 5 by 5, and we've Just got one final thing to do and that should sew it down for the evening. Just wanted to double check that you've got your suit hose connectors red to red, blue to blue.
UNKNOWN: Deke, we're just going to get them. We've been drying out the suits. We're going to configure the ECS for sleep momentarily.
CC: Okay. As soon as you're through with that, give us a call and turn your voice off and go to sleep. Sleep tight.
CC: And we've got a full 8 hours programed for whenever you power down and it gives you plenty of time tomorrow to do everything you've got to do, so don't sweat it.
CDR-LM: Okay. I was right pleased that we could get through that today. I thought it was going to be kind of tight and - and I was pleased that we got as much done as we did.
CC: So was everybody else. I was - -
CDR-LM: I guess I'm sorry that - I'm sorry that we had that accident with that cable but I - we - we prob- ably should improve our training along those lines, but i don't know what else to do.
CC: Roger. Can't win them all, John. That was a beautiful job; you guys were right on the line all the way. For your information, we do have some people playing around with a potential fix for that heat flow thing, but my personal opinion is that it ain't going to work. I don't think it's worth the bother, but we'11 talk to you about that later, if it looks llke it's at all possible.
CC: Casper, Houston. Standing by.
CC: Okay, Casper; Houston. Standing by.
CC: Greetings. You're loud and clear.
CMP: Yeah, so are you. Looks like we had a little extra trouble locking up that time.
CC: That was - we reacquired with a ground station here. It was a - a switch here, Ken. And there's nothing wrong with the good ship Casper.
CMP: Oh, yeah. I was going to chastise you guys for that. I Just happened to notice. I was looking out and I noticed that the Earth was quite a ways above the horizon, and I looked down and there wasn't any signal strength. I was - I got to wondering about it. I don't think you guvs are sanforized; you're getting smaller.
CC: Hey, if you've got a couple of minutes, at your convenience, I'11 give you a - a tentative master plan.
CMP: Okay. Let me put some of my toys in a nice resting place, and I'11 be with you.
CC: Okay. This is not a Flight Plan update, Ken. This is just going to be a general s-m_ary of what we 're looking at. \
CMP: Let me get this thing set up for the photo pass, and then I'11 - I'11 be ahead, and then we'11 go into that.
CC: Roger. It's at your convenience.
CMP: Got to switch mags here.
CMP: Hey, Stu, I notice that this thing keys an awful lot at any sharp sound in the cockpit. If this is getting annoying, I'11 turn the VOX level down.
CC: Haven't been hearing a thing right then, Ken.
CC: Okay. I'11 have a few - about three Flight Plan updates for you, and when we get through, when you get a chance. But here's the way it - the Plan is looking. We'11 have no PC-2 or shaping burn. We'11 do PC-1 about three revs prior to LM lift-off, which according to - which will be about 4 hours later than the Flight Plan shows. We're showing lift-off of the LM for about 175:44. And in the place of the nominal PC-1 time, we'11 be doing the bistatic radar. The - they will have the third EVA. It'11 be - they're shooting for about 5 hours on it. And, of course, the prime objective is - is North Ray. EVA-3 and the rendez- vous will be done on the same day, and to hold down the crew time, it '11 - that '11 make it about an 18-hour day. We'11 hold onto the LM through the rest period and Jettison the LM the next day. From your standpoint, everything will be fairly nominal, up until about lift-off minus 6 hours. It'11 be pretty close to about what we're showing in the Flight Plan now. Of course, we'11 have some updates as they - they work the - the scien- tific standpoint of it. Oh, and TEI will be ap- proximately a day early.
CMP: A day early?
CMP: All right. Any particular reason? I mean - I would - I would have guessed some of the other things, but not that.
CC: Ken, well, I guess it's - it goes down into the bit with we've skipped the PC-2. Why, considering the SIM Bay and the objectives left, everything - everybody's going to be happy and decide to ship around you out a - a day early.
CMP: Okay. Where's - we're going to launch the satel- lite from the orbit we're in? Is that the idea?
CC: Yeah, it'11 - it'11 be the orbit after PC-l, and there's no sweat on the lifetime, Ken. They - they're guaranteeing a lifetime of at least a and year looking to have a fairly reasonable perigee after - even after a year, from - from the orbit
CC: And that's - that's about it. Of course, all the specifics will be coming up to you, and I have three Flight Plan updates just any time you're ready. No sweat.
CMP: Okay. I'11 go ahead and copy.
CC: Okay. The first one will be at 130 hours 31 minutes.
CC: Okay. We want to delete the "MAPPING CAMERA, RETRACT." And at 130:34 delete the '_4APPING CAMERA/LASER ALTIMETER COVER, CLOSE."
CMP: Okay. Delete the "MAPPING CAMERA RETRACT," and the "COVER CLOSE."
CC: Okay. And at 131:19.
CMP: All right. Your
CC: Okay. speed on your camera is changed to 1/25o.
CMP: Okay. That's 1/250.
CC: Okay. And just to ease your mind on that other note - Flight Plan note - we're gonna - The mapping camera will be left out during your dump and the sleep period.
CC: Okay. And 132 hours.
CC: And, Ken, I've got one more at 132.
CMP: Okay. You - you dropped out there. I didn't get anything in. You Just went silent. I didn't hear anything after - Oh, let's see, where's the last thing I got from you? I got the configuration change in the camera and the understanding that the mapping camera was going to be left out all night. And that's all I heard.
CC: Oh, okay. It'11 also be out during your dump. I just wanted to- -
CC: - - Verify with you that that was true. Okay and - -
CMP: Yeah, I got that.
CC: All righty. And you - -
CC: - - got the shutter speed change at 131:19. And my next change is at 132:00 when you're - -
CC: - - when you're ready to copy.
CC: Okay. We want to add H2 tanks i and 2 HEATERS, AUTO. H2 FANS 1, 2, 3, OFF. 85/15 Tape
CMP: Okay. H2 tank i and 2, AUTO, and all three FANS OFF at 132 hours.
CC: Okay. That's the end of the update.
CC: And, Ken, I've got a few questions about the flow of Mandel'shtam when you've a chance you want to talk about it.
CMP: Okay. Let's see. I got a few minutes. Why don't we talk right now?
CC: Okay. I'11 Just run through - There are four questions. Why don't I Just give them all to you, and then I can go back over them, but we'd like to know in what part of the floor is the flow. We'd like to know how large it is. We'd like to know the direction of flow. Au on-the-spot observation of Whether or not you think it's a landslide or a lava flow.
CMP: Okay. I covered some of that again on this last pass, I guess. Let me - S_y thos e questions again.
CC: Okay. In what part - -
CMP: You ... want me to write a few key words down.
CC: Okay. In what of the floor is the flow?
CC: Want to know how large it is.
CC: Okay'. And what is the direction of flow?
CMP: Okay. And your last question was origin?
CMP: Okay. Let me see if I can get - get a map here that I can give you some reference on. The kind of flow that I'm t-lking about back there is - is sort of like the kind of flow from - that your - that you see in the mare materials. It's - it's not a big thing ... that you can trace back like you can seen. some Of these other things we've ft's Just sort of appears as a flow front. It's not sure run down where it comes from, and you can see it in the craters and around them. And, from that - I made a little more objective analysis of this stuff that you see on this back - this last pass when we came across on what we call the - the Far my impression Side Highlands. And it's general that these - these flows - maybe that - maybe I'm using the wrong term - they look like flows. They have all the characteristics of a flow front, and yet there's places where they go along, and you'11 see it with the scarp going down to the east, and then all of a sudden it'11 get a little then showing confused and the scarp will be up then going to the west. And you'11 see places where - there's one place in Mandel'shtam - I think we have a picture of it - where this - this scarp, in that looks like a flow front, curves an arc to the right, and it's got material that comes from behind it. Then all of a sudden it sort of %urns back in underneath itself and then Just _'_. disappears. And there's - there's no flow front _ where it disappears underneath. It's - it's Just a - it's a very strange thing. We"ve seen that in several other places. Some were appearances in the photograph that Farouk and I were looking at of Baldenburger [sic]. Now, that's on a much larger scale of course. But it's the same kind of problem, where you see a unit which is obviously overlaying another. And yet it's overlaying itself by one that the original unit happens to overlay. It's like a - a chain where each - each _ring overlaps the other one in a closed circle. And it is very confusing from that point. And let me can look at my map here and see if I give you some - some better handles. I think I took some pictures back there to mark it.
CMP: Okay_ Stu. Looks like the map is no help, and the - the only picture we have onboard that I can tad/{_ab°ut_- is on - in the visual photo book. It's ViA. And if you look at the ren - you don't - Mandel'shtam remember has the -the big central crater and then two little craters, or it kind of looks like concentric craters with a bull's-eye, and the flows that I was looking at were almost on the - I guess-you can say they're on the north - ern side of the big crater. And they run down into several of the smaller craters up there. And the general direction was with the flow scarp as I'm calling it. Facing the - facing to the west, it runs into the crater on the northern side. That's - after looking at more and more of this highlands back here, I'm beginning to believe that these are not actually flow fronts at all; they Just happen to look like that if you look at them in short sections, but I think there must be some other process that's affecting all thi s .
CMP: I'm afraid that - that on the specific kind of questions you asked, in this case, I'm - I'm really kind of out to lunch. I - I can't make specific things when you sayhow large. There - can the length of these things that I trace are the same size as - as the crater that I was looking at. And I guess that must not be that central one, but one of the adjacent ones - one of the ones on the north. But they're - they're quite long, and they're all over the area. They're in craters; they're outside of them; they're on the floors. You see these things just about everywhere you look back there. They're large, and they're just - it sort of defies my imagination. I see nothing that looks like sources anywhere.
CMP: I guess that's a - I guess that's a brief s_,mmary to say that I really am not as smart as I wish I was.
CC: That sounded pretty good to me, Ken. And we'd like HIGH GAIN to AUTO.
CMP: Okay. There's AUTO. Now. GAMMA RAY, SHIELD OFF. Ah ha. And it 's OFF.
CMP: And I'm gonna start in on my strip here.
CMP: And Just for planning purposes, in the future, I - I know we got those templates out, and when we looked at all those templates on the charts, we said, gosh, you know, you must be able to see a lot more from the window. But, photo targets like this one are in the extreme of what you can reach from our windows. I guess they really didn't - they didn't exaggerate those things too much at all. You can see more if you put your face right against it, but by the time you get a camera in there, your field of view that you can control the camera in is greatly reduced.
CC: Okay. Is it true of the - of the hatch window also, Ken? You know that's the one we tal_ed about that looks like - you're bound to be able to see more than - -
CMP: Yeah. It's not as true there, because you have -_'_ yeah, you can - you can certainly see more, and you can - you can get around there with a camera a lot better than you can at these sides. You - you run into - You bang your head against R-12, then you push it into the corem panel, and - there's always something where you want to put your head.
CC: Hey. I agree to that. I've been in that same corner with the 500.
CMP: (Laughter) Yeah, well one of those folded guys would be very nice. But even that, I - I - in looking at it, I'm Just holding my 250 against the window here, and with the increased diameter, you'd buy a little bit with that folding one, but not a terrible amount because the darn diameter's gonna bite you. When you look at anything other than perpendicular to this side hatch window, the two window panes are so thick that you can't look very skewed.
CMP: Okay. We've started our photo strip.
CMP: Okay. That's a good place to quit. And that's frame 61 of magazine Bopa Bopa.
CC: Okay. Frame 61.
CMP: And the IMAGE MOTION is stepped up the barber pole and back to OFF.
CMP: And the GAMMA RAY SHIET.D is back on.
CMP: I tell you, Stu, that Straight Wall really is a hl_mmer out there.
CC: Sounds awful beautiful, Ken.
CMP: Yeah, with all the things that are on the front many side, I'11 have to admit that in respects it 's - it 's more interesting. I'm not sure there's any more to be seen or learned here, but it' s - there's enough extra variety that it's easy to - to recognize something that's different. You don't have to look so hard to see what's the same. When I look down a% the - at the individual sections of material, I look at this Cayley down here, - oh, what am I looking at - Ptolemaeus and Alphonsus, the floors that - that Cayley fill. It looks just on the detail scale as the stuff on the back side does. And the - the rims around the craters like Alphonsus - that material looks Just like the stuff on the back side. When you get down to the detail level, it all has the same features. The only thing that I see that's - that's quite a bit different is I don't see any of these rille systems on the back side anywhere.
CC: Okay. Maybe we can talk to FIDO and work in something where you can Just orbit the front side.
CMP: (Laughter) Yeah, I'11 get in one of those synchronous kinds.
CMP: I'm looking out here now at the area Just to I west of the south of Lassell E on a little highlands there. And if you go straight south from Lassell, there's a little tip of highlands material that runs out to the west. Then it stops, and if you take from there and draw a line, I would guess it's Almost due west. It looks like there's two entirely different materials there. Like you built it out of two fabrics and then put it down. The one to the north is darker than the one to the south. It's - it's split by a very straight line, and there's a - a very distinct difference in the - in the albedo or the shade of gray that the mare has.
CC: Okay. - ....
CC: And, Ken, you're under i minute to MAPPING CAMERA, OFF. You got about 45 seconds.
CMP: All right, sir. Thank you.
CC: And you're 10 seconds T-stop.
CMP: Thank you. And it's stopped.
CMP: M in STANDBY.
CMP: And the laser's off ...
CMP: Okay. The ALPHA/X-RAY COVER is ccming CLOSED.
CMP: Barber pole and gray.
CC: Okay. We've got - - 85/21 Tape
LMP: Okay, I guess I'11 - I'11 torque these, although it seems like a shame.
CC: Yeah. We - we see them, and - go ahead and torque them. Boy, that beauty's nice.
CMP: Yeah, it really is.
CMP: Hey, Stu. No one ever said anything about the - the P23s. Anyone in the back room know how the? .... came out? What kind of an altitude we ended up with?
CC: Yeah, Ken, I've - we've got that. I'd looked at _ it there a couple of days ago. A little blurb there I'd written in. It said the mark data was real consistent, and I think it was something like 33 kilometers, but I'm - let - let me check that out for you.
CMP: Okay, I was just curious. I - I didn't feel like I had as much trouble with that horizon as I anticipated. As far as knowing where I ought to be, my problem was getting the spacecraft there.
MCC: Ken, I remember your comment here yesterday about the sextant and the telescope really looking swinging. Have you had any change in that at all, and in particular, the - how about the reticle on your - on your sextant? How does that look to you, and how did the lunar surface look through the sextant? These are Just all my own personal questions, so don't - don't take much time on them.
CMP: All right, Jay. Yes, I - no, as a matter of fact, at one time I looked in there and saw the sextant was really blurred and I thought, "Oh, here we go. Just what you'd said." And I got to looking around, and I found that these eyepieces vibrate on there quite badly. And I guess I shouldn't use the word vibrate, then, but they unscrew, and I've got a lot of tape wrapped around them now to keep them on. And they change focus. And I had to refocus the thing. And once I got it focused, it's - if I turn the reticle lights up to full intensity, why, I get a little bit of a smear. But not much at all, and when I look at the images on the ground like in the _tracking - tracking I took a look during the practice period - and, boy, I tell you, that was Just as nice. The only and looking problem was, when you're down low through that 28th power, your field of view is so wouldn't recognize small you your own house if you flew over it.
CMP: I still - I'm still not having as much success ----_ with the telescope as I - as I ought to, and I'm - I'm trying to psych it out. I was going to take a look here a couple of times. I'm not aware of any light in the telescope right now, but you Just can't see any stars in there. And I'm wondering if the Earth is enough still that it - it might blank them out. Because they are obviously there when I look out the window. But they become a great deal more obvious once I get on the back side, or in that double umbra. And I thought I'd try to make a note to check that in the telescope on this pass. I know when the LM was on the nose, that really made a big difference, because all I could see was LM.
CC: Okay. I - -
CMP: ... reflection off the LA{.
CC: Okay, I graded that. You get a very good picture of the LM quad.
CMP: Yeah, I can see the quad in the radar. I can tell you all about them.
CMP: But even in earthshine it was - it was - you could - you could pick out all the features in earthshine. It was really amazing. And was Just - Just - just beautiful. And last night or when- ever it was When We were playing around there, why, if I had had a little more confidence in the depth perception, we could have done our stationkeeping without any lights and earthshine. You get - once you leave earthshine, though, you really need that old docking light. And the docking light, much to my surprise, isn't - isn't good for much outside of 500 feet. And, at 500 feet, if you ever lost sight of the target, you probably wouldn't pick it up again. When you get into 300 feet, then - then it holds the target - with sufficient illumination to see things and tell relative motion. I didn't turn alithe cockpit lights down too dim, because the LM strobe is such a beauty. And finally we _ turned the strobe off Just to save power and time on it. And we had no problem at all, but the - I had to help the LM guys how bright that thing was in their face, but I had the impression it wasn't so terribly bright.
CMP: Got another little piece of amazement here that you'11 - you might appreciate. It took me by o. surprise. I did a - I started out and I checked the GDC drifts when - right after we got on our way. And they were running pretty high; and they were about 7 degrees an hour if I remember right. I've got them written down somewhere. I won't look for them now. Maybe it was like 6 degrees, but they were pretty healthy drifts. And this was some time after I got - I checked one set of BMAGS before TLI and one after. And I did a GDC align at 127 hours. I Just did another one; this is 100 and - 1B0:45. So that's 3 hours and 45 minutes, and the two are off by 2 degrees in roll, i degree in pitch, B degrees in yaw. And that's the way this thing's been operating for the last couple of days. And I - I don't know what finally got it to square itself away. At the time the platform went belly-up there, why, they were about 12 degrees apart, and they had been aligned probably no more than a couple of hours before that. And I noticed the following day - I started watching the GDC, and I noticed I didn't have to align it very often. And it Just seems like the more it runs, the better it gets.
CC: Hey, that sounds Jolly good, Ken. I - I had suspected that you've been keeping a rather close eye on the GDC.
CMP: (Laughter) Well, I tell you, every time I zero in ! m-We on the optics, I about 50 checks of all the switches in here.
CMP: That'11 keep your attention.
CC: Roger. I suspect that the GDC stays pretty well-'_ aligned, too.
CMP: Maybe it knows something that I don't.
CMP: Something else that surprised me, Stu. Maybe you remember. I can see a - a definite horizon for the Moon within a minute or so of AO - LOS. And I - I guess that's the zodiacal light and the solar corona showing up there, but I really didn't anticipate seeing that nice dark disk. And there's a - it's Just like seeing the Earth horizon on a dark night. It 's really there.
CC: Okay. Thanks, Ken. We got that.
CMP: Do you remember seeing that much horizon?
CC: No, sure didn't, Ken. But I had - I had very few passes where the orientation was where I could - could see that.
CMP: Yeah , I understand.
CC: And, Ken, we-rre in about a minute and a ·halfto LOS.
CC: And I want to - to remind you to configure the DSE here on - on this.
UNKNOWN: Okay. Thank you very much.
CC: Jolly good. We'11 see you in a little bit.
CMP: All righty. Have an extra cup of coffee. And, if you don't drink the stuff, I need some.
CC: Okay. I'm not sure I can even drink coffee for you, Ken. How about a cup of chocolate?
CMP: (Laughter) Well, we probably both want the same thing right about now. 7-- --
CDR-LM: Okay, Houston. We are all rigged up for sleep, we'11 be seeing you in the morning.
CC: Okay, John. I guess we're all ready for you to go to sleep. One thing we want to - Stand by. We want your SUIT ISOL valves to connect. I hope that's the right terminology for you LMies.
CDR-LM: We got SUIT FLOW and SUIT DISCONNECT. What do you want?
CC: Okay. We want the CDR's hose to connect and SUIT FLOW.
CDR-LM: I - I - You're snowing me there. I - What do you want? You want flow through the hose or not? want
CC: Okay. We the CDR's SUIT ISOL to FLOW. We same wanted the configuration as - old Percy over there.
CDR-LM: The CDR's SUIT ISOL valve to FLOW.
CDR-LM: Okay, you want it to FLOW.
CC: Okay, it looks good.
CC: And, good night. guys.
CDR: Good night to you Thank you much for a good day. Enjoyed it.
CC: Okay. We'11 look forward to a bigger and better one tomorrow.
UNKNOWN: Houston, 16. Over.
CDR-LM: Okay, this is Orion. Could we put our AOT detent to either 4 or 6, because the Sun is shining right in it right now, and it's lighting up the whole cockpit even though we're all - got the lights turned down. It's just like we got a big spot in here. Or is - or is that not possible?
CC: Okay. John. The word is, you can put it in any position you want, if that'11 solve your problem. We don't care.
CDR: 0 - Okay. Thank you.
CDR-LM: That solved our problem, in detent 6. Thank you much, Houston.
CC: Roger, Orion. And, good night, again.
CMP: Hello there, Stuart.
CC: Oh, greetings, Casper. _
CMP: I Just took a - another look at our old friend, King, looking at him this time from the north looking south and west. And, there's no question in my mind now that there's - there definitely some dark material that's on the top of the central peaks, that's on that western side. Before, I couldn't really tell if there was or not. It looked like there was some blocks that might be casting shadows. But, looking back at it, there's some- thing on there that at least changes the albedo and nothing else. And it's not shadow. And I got a picture here on frame Victor that ought to - hopefully will substantiate that. 86/3 Tape
CC: Hey, that sounds - -
CMP: That white valley - -
CC: -- jolly good.
CMP: _ - ... Mandel'shtam, I took another - took another look at the craters we'd talked about. And, t_ere are two places on there where I think I see these flow scarps that I was talking about. And, one of them is at - let's call it 16B degrees east and about 2-1/2 degrees south. And, you see a little blob that the artist has drawn in there, and that looks like that is part of - of what I'm looking at - that appears to me to be a - kind of like a flow field.
CC: Okay. Got that.
CC: And, Ken, I notice here this is supposed to be in the middle of your eat period. Are you eating?
CMP: Well, as a matter of fact, I Just looked and noticed that it was an eat period. I guess I will go and do same. I got all carried away with this being the first time I've had a chance to look to the south.
CC: Okay. When we come up down here, in about 7 or 8 minutes, why, we're showing this - the PAN CAMERA to have the POWER on so we can take a look at it. We want to play a couple of little games with the ¥ over H override switch at that time, to see if we can find one of the positions of that switch that might have a little less effect on our sensor - You know that was - that was a change and we're noticing the sensor has been detecting lower light levels than it should. So, we're going to put the switch to HIGH ALTITUDE for a couple of minutes and then LOW ALTITUDE for a couple of minutes, and we'11 give you a call on all those.
CMP: Okay. Just tell me what you want, and I'11 go down here and put my nose in the feed bucket.
UNKNOWN: 37 17 20 CC CMl° Casper, Seems like Houston. I ate Just a couple of minutes ago.
CC: Okay, if you got time there in mixing up your food, we'd like to have the PAN CAMERA to STANDBY and the POWER on.
CMP: Okay. PAN CAMERA to STANDBY and POWER on. Omm - Om - a - Okay. And POWER is on, the talkback is barber pole, and again it 's gray.
CC: Okay, and let's go on the V over H override to HIGH ALTITUDE, now, Ken.
CMP: Okay. V over H, HIGH ALTITUDE -
CC: Okay, Ken, if you'11 give us LOW ALTITUDE on the V over H override.
CMP: Okay, going LOW ALTITUDE -
CC: Okay, Ken. You can go to center, off position on the V over H override, and you can go AUTO on the HIGH GAIN.
CMP: Okay, V over H override is center off and HIGH GAIN is in - AUTO.
CC: And, Ken. Just for your info, the field geology team are in the final phase of making their plans for EVA-2 tomorrow. So, if you've got any addi- tional comments, why, better make them this - this pass because they'11 have to have it all firmed up. _
CMP: Oh, I think they're smarter than I am.
CC: Well, now. Don't get too carried away up there.
UNKNOWN: (Laughter) No, I would really - I'd really hope they make it to North Ray_ though. I think that's going to be different than we expected it to be.
CC: Okay, Ken, we are ready for PAN CAMERA POWER to OFF at this time.
CMP: Okay, PAN CAMEP_ POWER is coming OFF -
CC: Hey, Ken. How did we make out in our discussion on North Ray low altitude there as far as being able to see the - the white albedo or not? Or, were you too far to the south?
CMP: Oh, I got ahead. It depends which rev you want to talk about. On - well, I looked at her on the first day, right after DOI, there wasn't any - there was two craters, but no rays. When I went back and looked at him on landing morning, there's a slight ray. But North Ray still doesn't stand out as being the bright guy that South Ray does.
CC: Well, it's obvious I was t,lking about the - the landing day.
CMP: (Laughter) I gathered that it would be the case.
CC: Yeah, by all means.
CMP: Right now I would agree with you on anything, Stu.
CC: Yeah, I'11 - I'11 be quiet - -
CMP: I'm ... here with my - -
CC: I'11 be quiet - -
CMP: - - potato soup and my - Ah! Ah l
CC: Yeah, I ought to - I'11 be quiet here and let you concentrate on your eating.
CMP: Oh, man. This is gourmet style. I got - I got the Modern Jazz Quartet playing "Porgy and Bess," orange/grapefruit, and I got some of it in the bag, some of it on the b_lkheads, potato soup. Man, it's real gourmet style. Even got a Beta candle.
CC: Hey, Ken. With all of that, now while ago you t_lked about some Casperellos - with all that Beta Candle and all that food, you don't have any such thing as a Casperette, do you?
CMP: (Laughter) No, I'm afraid I left that at home.
CMP: That's about all this place is lacking, though. (Music in background)
CC: And, Ken, Just another comment to close the loop on you on that P23s - the - like I said before, the marking data was very good, and _0U C_ame up with an horizon of 33 and loaded is a value of 28. And after massaging all the data decided to not change it since we've shown on the other missions that coming back - the - has a tendency to have a lower horizon. So, looks like we're Just swinging with what we got there.
CMP: Okay, that's just fine.