Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
CMP: Okay, on the commander, you can delete the grits. On meal B, we - we skipped the Skylab meal as meal B and then ate it as meal C. And on that, we skipped the peanuts. And for the second meal on the day, John had a grapefruit drink, bread with pe_lut butter, and - I guess that's it.
CMP: Okay. On mine, you can start on meal A. Scratch the peaches, the scrambled eggs, four bacon squares, grits. My meal B: I had the bread and peanut butter and the grapefruit drink. On the Skylab meal, I had one of the two rye breads and - out of all this chicken spread, no one ate a third of it, that's - we probably ate a tenth of it apiece. And for Charlie, he's been good. He eats every- thing. None of us ate the peanuts on the Skylab meal. And for the second meal of the day, Charlie had an orange-pineapple drink with potassium, and peanut butter. And you'11 be happy to know that we shared our peaches with Casper. He ate just about as much of them as we did.
CC: Roger. Copy. That sounds kind of like it didn't work out too well.
CDR: There's a lot of peach still on Casper's face, I'11 tell you that.
LMP: Hank, when you open that can, you get them all at once.
CC: Charlie, you're going to have to work on those guys about the grits.
LMP: Grits are good. I can't get them to eat them, though. They - I sur - ate part of John's.
CMP: Okay, Hank. And maybe I missed it here, somewhere, but could you give us some words on what you plan to do about midcourse 4?
CC: Okay. No midcourse 4. And, I got a couple items of news here, if you're interested in that.
CMP: Okay. Is that general interest news, or like how we handle our relay setting and so forth?
CC: Oh s it's just general interest stuff on - We're coming up on antenna switching.
CMP: Okay, we'11 catch you after that.
CMP: Houston, you up yet?
CC: Okay, 16. How do you read?
CMP: Okay, Henry. How about if we stop PTC right here at this 144-degree pass?
CMP: Henry, did you copy that?
CC: Roger. We copied. And we got some Flight Plan updates for you, and you can stop it now if you like.
CC: Okay, repeat no MCC-4 is required, and for your information, the data there for the UV photos is good for an hour after the Flight Plan time. So there's no real rush on that one. if you're ready to copy, we'11 just charge right into these Flight Plan changes. The first one is at 70 hours and - -
CC: 70 hours and 40 minutes. We want to write in there, "Charge BAT A," and that's, for your information, for about 3 hours and 20 minutes.
CDR: Okay. At 70:40 we'11 charge battery A, and that's roughly going to be in 3-1/2 hours.
CC: That's affirmative. And at 71:20, we want to enter, "Load DAP with the weights and gimbal trim from MSFN, and call EMi° 509."
CDR: Okay. At 71:20, we'11 load the DAP with MSFN weight and gimbals and call EMP 509.
CC: That's affirmative. The next thing occurs at 73:55, at the sextant star check. Want to add, in parentheses, "No VERB 41. Manually - manual only with VERB 16 NOUN 91."
CDR: Okay. I've got at 73:55, at the sextant star check, we'11 do no VERB 41 and we'11 do it manual with 16 91 as our check.
CC: That is affirmative. And EECOM advises you can - -
CDR: While we're on that, Henry - while we're on that one, Henry, I didn't see where we terminated 509. Do we keep it running all this time?
CC: Okay. And EECOM advises you can go ahead and start that battery charge now, if you want to get Charlie started on that. And, next thing occurs at 74:08. And there we do the "Do SPS cue card through gimbal drive."
CDR: Okay, that's at 74:08. It's SPS cue card through gimb al drive.
CC: Roger. And LOS - MSFN LOS time will be 74:18.
CDR: Okay, 74:18 is LOS.
CC: Okay, that's the Flight Plan changes. I have some notes now. I don't know where's the best place to copy these. I've got about nine or 10 of them here. Well, take it back. I got two notes on the use of _ 509, and they read as follows.
CDR: Okay, let me get my scratch pad out and I'11 copy those first.
CDR: Okay, Henry. I'm ready to copy your notes.
CC: Okay. Number 1: the TVC DAP is unstable with _v_ 5o9.
CDR: Okay, understand. The TVC DAP is unstable with 509 running.
CC: That is affirmative. And number 2 is, "At SPS cumoff plus 2.5 seconds, the TVC enable is de- energized." The EMI° is off; thus, the platform alignment could be lost.
CC: Okay, and I have some Flight Plan changes now that are concerned with DOI. The first one occurs at 7 - -
CDR: Stand by a second.
CMP: Okay, Henry. I'm ready. These are comments, or these are things to go into the Flight Plan?
CC: Roger. These are Flight Plan changes, Ken. I'm sorry I didn't get this in order a while ago. It was buried in the bottom here.
CC: Okay, at 77:57, there's a group of CSM systems checks. Move those up to 77:20.
CMP: Okay, we take the CSM systems checks and move them from 77:58 over to 77:20.
CC: That's affirmative. Now at 77:50, "VERB 48 21101 01111.
CMP: Okay. At 77:50, that's "VERB 48 into 21101 01111."
CC: That's affirmative, and immediately following that, "Start EMiO 509."
CMP: Okay, Henry. I guess I don't quite understand the loading the - the VERB 48 into 21101, and then the next thing we do is to load a three in there. Could you have someone give me some rationale on that?
CC: The difference there, Ken, is you - when you're loading that VERB 48 for the - the EMP 509, you don't PRO on that one and activate that DAP.
CMP: Okay, I see what you're saying. Ail right.
CC: In other words, we have to get the right DAP in there before we do the EMi° 509. The next item is the activities that are located between 78:03 and 78:08, we want to move back to just following the P52 at 77:53.
CMP: Okay. How about giving me the first line and last line on the block you're talking about.
CC: Okay, that's "P30, verify DOI TIG and DELTA-Vs" through "Acquire MSFN OMNI D." Move all of that back to Just following the P52, or "landing site orient" at 77:53. And in that group of activities, we want to delete that VERB 48.
CMP: Okay, now what I have is - have you got any more changes to this area, and then I'11 read you what I have sequentially.
CC: There's nothing more on that particular page, 77 through 78 hours.
CMP: Okay. Maybe I missed something here, but i have - I have not seen us - terminate 509. I'm sure we did somev_here before the LOI burn - -
CMP: - - and we'11 do it again.
CC: We're going to get to do - in that Ken, we're going to have that on your cue card. I've got cue card change coming up for you.
CMP: Okay. Ail right, let me give you what I have here and then - At 77:20, I do all the CSM systems checklist items that are listed now at 77:58. At 77:50, we do a VERB 48 21101 01111. We start EMP 509. Then, at about 77:55, we do all the steps which are presently listed at 78:03 down through 78:08.
CC: And that's with the exception of the VERB 48.
CMP: That's right; with the exception of VERB 48.
CC: Okay, that's all correct. Now, the next item is, at 78:22, we delete the sextant star check and move it back to 78:15. And it carries the same warning as we had before. No VERB 41, manual only with the VERB 16 NOUN 91.
CMP: Okay, that's a sextant star check at 78:15 with no VERB 41, doing it manually and deleting the star check at 78:22.
CC: That's affirmative. And the last item for this is, at 78:18 add "do SPS cue card through gimbal drive."
CMP: Okay; that is at 78:18, it's '_Do SPS cue card through gimbal drive."
CC: Roger. And the cue card that you'11 use is the same for LOI and DOI. We're going to read you those changes.
CC: 16, Houston. I have your SPS burn card changes whenever you're ready to copy.
CC: Okay. Just as a note here for yourself. You load the DAP before starting the card, and you do not change VERB 48 after starting EMP 509. Now, we tried to indicate that in the Flight Plan, and I explained that to you while ago. Okay, first step: at the top of the card, the very first item, add "_94P 509 called."
CMP: Okay, at the very top of the card, it's "EMP 509 is called."
CC: Roger. And down at the fifth item, where it says "Load DAP," delete that.
CMP: Okay, we'11 delete "Load DAP."
CC: Where it says "Boresight & sextant star check," delete the "VERB 41 NOUN 91 ENTER," and make the comment: "No VERB 41, manual only with VERB 16 NOUN 91."
CMP: Okay, we delete "VERB 41 NOUN 91," and we say "No VERB 41, manual VERB 16 NOUN 91."
CC: That's affirmative. At the left of the card opposite "Main bus ties," where it says "54 min- utes,'' change that to "40 minutes," and in parentheses "Minus 20 minutes."
CMP: Okay, we've changed "54 minutes" to "40 minutes," and "Minus 6" to "Minus 20."
CC: Roger. And down a little further where it says "55 and 5," we want to change that to "41 and minus 19." changed
CMP: Okay. We've "55" to "41" and "minus 5" to "minus 19."
CC: Okay, on the back side of the card - Let me read you the whole thing we want to gel in there, Ken, so you'11 know how to squeeze it. Right after it says "ACCEPT parentheses PRO," we want to get in there, "If glitch occurs, use RHC to stop maneuver VERB 23 NOUN 20 ENTER ENTER, VERB 40 ENTER, VERB 62 ENTER. Manual maneuver to attitude," so you have to kind of squeeze that in there a little bit. I'11 read it to you slowly ncw. _if glitch OOC12/'S -- -
CMP: Okay, stand by a minute.
CMP: Okay, go ahead, Hank.
CC: Okay. "If glitch occurs, use RHC to stop maneu- ver. VERB 23 NOUN 20 ENTER ENTER. VERB 40 ENTER. VERB 62 ENTER. Manual maneuver to attitude."
CMP: Okay, now, this says that - this is after the PRO on gimbal test, and we're saying that if we - you get one of these_litches, use the RHC to stop the rates. Would there be any objecti0n to just switching to SCS while we do the rest of this, and that's my question. Now I'11 read on. It's "VERB 23 NOUN 20 ENTER ENTER," and I have a ques- tion there, is that - I got the impression from what we were saying in our previous discussion that this wasn't restricted just to the middle gimbal; it's a possibility for - for the others. And then a "VERB 40 ENTER," which will release the platform. VERB 62 will take us back. It's not - it's not clear to me, once we've put in NOUN 20 as zero, that VERB 62 is a useful number. It seems to me that I must have skipped something here.
CC: Okay, I am a little puzzled about the VERB 62 needles. However, on the other item, the reason you only need a VERB 23 is that the - that zeros that CDU, which is the only one that locks you up in coarse align, and the others will reinitialize when we do the VERB 40.
CMP: Okay, I guess my question, though, is that, if it can happen in each of them, the only time you do the VERB 23 NOUN 20 would be in the event that it did lock into the coarse align.
CC: That's affirmative. GDO was just saying you cover all bets when you do this, and you don't have to stop and think about it.
CMP: Okay, but if you had moved off in yaw, it seems to me I would be possibly introducing more error -
CC: Ken, would you - would you - state your concern again so we've got a clear picture of it.
CMP: Okay - maybe I'm off on a tangent. What it looked to me like is that if you pick up one of these glitches, I'm not sure that the rates are all going to be confined to just - just one axis by the time it stops, and if you then take and load register 3 and NOUN 20 to zeros, you may, in facts be at some other middle gimbal angle than 0. So, once you do that - I guess that - that has no effect if I do a VERB 40, huh? I guess that's the - I missed that point. That merely gets me out of the coarse align, and--
CC: That - that's affirmative.
CMP: - - VERB 40 will be initialized. Is that correct?
CC: That's affirmative. The VERB 40 starts the whole thing running again.
CC: The VERB 23 NOUN 20 gets you out of the gimbal lock, if that's to be - if that's the case.
CMP: Okay. Now I'm with you. Now I guess the only other thing is that, in the event that we have the thing we had - that happened the other night and it did coarse align there, it seems to me that, before I do the VERB 40, I would want to fly back on SCS to zero middle gimbal angle. Is that correct?
CMP: Okay. Okay, I think I understand that. Thank you.
CC: The concern over using the SCS, Ken, was they were afraid you'd introduce a transient - another tran- sient in there by the switching. However, if - you can't do - can't null it out with the RHC, you might be forced into SCS.
CMP: Well, we'11 sure give it a try. It's just not - Perhaps once I just get the hand controller out of detent, that'11 stop it at whatever new attitude i_ has, and that - that ought to hold it, so that there may be no further transients. I'11 try that first.
CC: Roger. Are you ready to go on with changes?
CC: Okay, out to the side there - a little arrow, I guess, is the best way to indicate it - in other words, between "RATE, HIGH" and "EMS, NORMAL," we want to say "Terminate EMP 509."
CMP: Okay, when I terminate the EMP 509, you want me to write that between RATE, HIGH and EMS to NORMAL? And it looks like the - I would do the VERB 48 back to my original vslues, but it looks like I would not be resetting the average g flag. Or do you want that reset anyhow?
CC: Ken, the message is do a normal te__ninate as - as on the procedure they read up to you: and that's after you finish the gimbal drive test. That's what it's associated with. And following that - the next item - just prior to 59 minutes - I don't know how you're going to get all of this in there. You may have to write it to the bottom and show an arrow. "At minus 6 minutes, TAPE RECORDER HIGH BIT RATE, RECORD, FORWARD, COMMAND RESET."
CMP: And you did not want to do that at minus 20? Is that affirmative?
CMP: You want me to - to delete that from minus 20?
CC: Yes, I omitted that, Ken; I was going back to that. Back over here at minus 20, we want to delete - scratch through "TAPE RECORDER, HIGH BIT RATE, FORWARD, COMMAND RESET." And for your info, the reason we'¥e given this 20 minutes is_ in both 45/3 Tape LOI and DOI, that gives us about 10 minutes to watch what you're doing, watch the gimbal drive check, and if you need any help, we can give it to you from down here.
CMP: Okay. That sounds like a good plan.
CMP: Okay. You want the tape recorder on at minus 6 minutes.
CC: That rs affirmative.
CC: Okay. Following 00:XX ECO, enter - right in there - "Be prepared for SCS takeover."
CMP: Okay; I got that.
CC: You ready for the next one, Ken?
CMP: Yeah, go ahead.
CC: Okay. Right after "TVC SERVO POWER, i and 2, OFF," we want to enter a little comment that says, "Prior to trimming NOUN 85, NOUN 20 should be checked against the IMU."
CMP: Okay, after "TVC SERVO POWER, i and 2, OFF," and we'11 put a note here that says, "Prior to trimming NOUN 85, check NOUN 20 against IMU," and that's because of reading the different angles of the FDAI pickoff.
CC: Okay. Now I have changes for your SPS burn rules card.
CMP: Stand by. Let me read back what I got on here.
CMP: On the SPS card, starting at the top with a note. Can you read me all right now, Hank?
CMP: Okay. At the top of the card, I've added a note that says, "No VERB 48 changes after entering 509. T_ The first step on the card is "EMI° 509 is called." I have deleted, "Load the DAP." Under the "Bore- sight sextant star check," I have deleted VERB 41 NOUN 91. I have replaced that with a note that says "No VERB 41 and use manual, monitor 1691." I have changed the "BUS TIE, on" time from 54 min- utes to 4C minutes, and that changes "minus 6" to "minus 20." I have deleted the tape recorder line at minus 6 minutes. I've changed the time 55 to be 41, minus 5 to be minus 19, and that's all the changes I have on the front side of the burn card. On the back side, next to the "Proceed after the gimbal test option": if the - if we get a glitch, it's "RHC to stop rates, VERB 23 NOUN 20 ENTER ENTER, VERB 40 ENTER, and then VERB 62 ENTER, man- ually maneuver to attitude." After "RATE, HIGH," and before 59 minuves, terminate EMP 509. At minus 6 minutes, "TAPE RECORDER goes to HIGH BIT RATE, RECORD, FORWARD, and COMMAND RESET." At 00:XX, at engine cut-off, it's "Be prepared for SCS takeover." At "TVC SERVO POWER, 1 and 2, OFF," we've added a note, "Prior to trimming NOUN 85, check NOUN 20 against the IMU." And that's all the comments I have on the burn card.
CC: That's a good readback, Ken, and Just to reiterate, that "Terminate _o 509" is associated with termi- nating the gimbal test or ending up on that.
CMP: Roger. Any - I can do that any time after the gimbal test is completed.
CC: We would prefer that termination right after the gimbal check.
CMP: Yes sir. I don't want to get caughv too late doing that.
CDR: Okay, Houston. This procedure, it'11 handle no matter what glitch we get, and I understand that. But how about some discussion of the probability of getting such a glitch. Is there any - anybody thinking about that much, down there?
CC: I guess all of us have been thinking about it, John, but there's just no way we can predict whether it will happen again or not. Our gut feel- ing on the thing is that probably never see it again.
CDR: Understand. It's very similar to the kind of thing that we had happen back in the early part of the Apollo Program with the CDUs that would make them count different. Is that not correct?
LMP: Houston, 16. Ready to copy the SPS burn rules update.
CC: Okay, the reason for these changes, Charlie, is after we watch MC-6 and look at the system pres- sures there, we got some new data; and, for your information, we're kind of predicting that your nominal values are going to be oxidizer 200, fuel 170, and - for your onboard readings. So based on that, we need to change these burn rules. And I believe you've already made one change to it, is that correct?
LMP: Yeah, but we got - I can scratch it in again some- where else.
CC: Okay, on the fuel oxidizer press, where you put in 124 oxidizer, you want to change that to 138 oxi- dizer, and the fuel goes from ll0 to ll2. In other words, instead of 124 OX, ll0 fuel, we want 138 OX, ll2 fuel.
LMP: Okay, copy. Go ahead.
CC: Okay, for your FUEL OXIDIZER DELTA-P, the new rules are: "Oxidizer greater than fuel by 50" to "Oxidizer greater than fuel by 12."
LMP: Now wait a 'qrin'a_e_ i nad _50 OX less than fuel" last _' _itme,
CC: 0kay_ but - but '_.rh_<_ what _.cu had before_ I think_ was 35 amd 5._is vLat cc;rrect?
UNKNOWN: Oh, okay. leu're right_ 35 and 5. Okay, go ahead again now.
CC: Okay. The new ones become "5C oxidizer greater than f_ae3" to ".12 oxidizer grea_er than fuel." In other words _tyour 33 and 5 rules gc to 50 and 12. Both of them_ tnotlgrh Oxl(lizel greater than f_ael." 35 _lat we're changing _s _n_ to 50, and we're changing the 5 vc 12 and changir_ the sign over ! there, 'OX[ _r_.__ greater_" instead of "Oxidizer less."
LMP: Okay Wha; -- -_ .... n · ou re tc__=__g me, ;hat's the limit; "50 - oxiS:izer greater than fuel" can be as high as 50 or as !ow as !2.
CC: That's affirmative. 'Oxidizer greater than fuel" in both c_;es, in other words_ your range is oxidizer 12 to 50 psi greater them the fuel pressure,
CC: Okay, and o_ your tSgnt limit - -
CC: - - change the oxidizer to "168 oxzdmzer' ' ." What - _:',re. -_o-_=e ___ what you "168 oxidizer, 153 fuel." War:t to ch._mge thst t.o "-'A" =_ L.-5 oxidizer, l_j fuel"; no change _[nthe fuel.
LMP: O_sy, copy Tigh_ limits: oxidizer has to be greater than 'q_ ;l_efuel _ ard grea_er than 153. TM
CC: That's s~z__zma_z_e.-_ ..... ·_ · _e__ on zhis
LMP: Okay_ Hank Let '.negive you em example v _ DELTA-Ps. Right now, i_m looking at about 170 fuel and 195 oxidizer. Tha-c says tha-¢ I can go to - do_rn to 150 -.140 on _he fuel side wi_h a constea_n oxidizer pressure before i reach my limit, or have the fuel oressure.,increase up to _._78before ._ _ reach my lim__-_, is _hau correcz?
CC: G&C's checking. Let him look at it, Charlie.
CC: Charlie, that fuel follows DELTA-P of 50, oxidizer follows DELTA-P of 12. That was the answer I got back on that; however, on the example you gave, I thought you were right with it, except on the sec- ond part. It looked like to me you need a 12 dif- ference there. I might of misread the thing.
LMP: Okay. I was just looking at my gages here, I've got about 190 oxidizer pressure, and about 165 fuel pressure. And so that says to me that the fuel side could go up to 178 and I'd still be within the limit.
CC: That's what the rules say.
CC: The oxidizer could drop to 177.
CMP: Hank, do we have to get a SPS press light along with - and still be within limits on these rules.
CC: They're checking their cal cards now, Ken. They're going to come up with an answer on that.
CMP: All right; thank you.
CDR: Okay, Houston. The pressure equalization valve is coming open to equalize the tunnel pressure.
CC: 16, G&C advises use the pressures and not the light in regard to the burn.
CMP: Roger. I'm just wondering if I'm - should expect to see iT?
CC: That's affirmative. You may. We think the light will come on at 202 oxidizer pressure and we're predicting you going to be running around 200.
CMP: Houston, would you like to have the high gain antenna?
CC: That's affirmative. Flight Plan angles, Ken.
CDR: Okay, Houston. The pressure equalization valve is closed. The CM DELTA-P is 0.2 now.
CC: Roger; copy 6.2.
CDR: And I think that - that 0.2 is what it reads when- ever it's equalized.
CC: Roger; that's true.
CC: And, 16, we'd also like to advise that, on the tight limits, you're within 2 psi on the low pressure side for the fuel.
CC: And, 16, I have your pericynthion-plus-2 block data.
LMP: Okay. Why don't you Just stand by on that and let us get these photos out of the way.
CMP: Hey, Hank, Charlie Just noticed that we're in this Moon photo attitudes and it looks like the - the Sun is Just very, very close to being along our line of sight, and it looks like we have - On one of the changes, we've gone in and opened some of these settings. Could we get a verification that where we - that this is the right setup? We can't look out the window very well and tell you if we're boresighted on the Moon.
CC: Roger, Ken. This is a correct attitude. We'11 take another quick scan of the settings.
CC: 16, Houston. Would you attempt to bring up the high gain?
LMP: Okay, you've got REACQ in there. How does that look?
CC: Looks good, Charlie; and, in regards to the photos, the PI says the Sun will be very close to the Moon, but that it shouldn't be in the field of view of the camera. The settings are good.
LMP: Okay, we'11 take them as is.
CC: Hey, Charlie. I've got a message for you. Con- solidated Jack Pines is way up.
LMP: Gre_t; thank you.
CDR: So's Charlie.
CC: 16, Houston. I'm - we're going to do the change- over now, and I'11 see you later on this evening.
CMP: Okay, Hank. Thank you, sir.
CDR: Yeah, y'all go get some rest. It'11 be a busy day later on.
CC: They're already on the way.
CC: Hello there. Wanted to advise you, you can relax now. You're in good hands now with the Gold Team.
CDR: Understand the Gold Team is got gone.
LMP: Houston, 16. I'm ready for the block data update.
CC: Say again, 16. You're very weak.
LMP: Yeah, that's because my mike's about 25 inches away. How's that?
CC: That's a lot better, Johnny [sic].
LMP: Okay, I'm ready for the block updates.
CC: Roger. Okay, Charlie, it's PER plus 2, SPS/G&N; - 66363 -
LMP: Wait; hold the - hold the phone - hold the phone a minute, Pete.
LMP: Okay, I was on the P37. This is the P30 pad?
CC: This is your abort pad. PER plus 2 abort. It's a P30 load.
CC: Okay, it's PER plus 2, SPS G&N; 66363 plus 1.21, minus 0.14; 076:26:14.49; NOUN 81's, plus 2133.7, plus 1123.3, minus 2178.1; 335, 116, 018. Rest of the pad is NA. Ullage, none. Under others: num- ber 1, docked manuever; 2, based on L0I REFSMMAT; 3, gimbal angles on PTC REFSMMAT are roll, 263; pitch, 017; yaw, 310.
CDR: Roger, Pete; 30 pad, pericynthion, PER, plus 2, SPS G&N; 66363; plus 1.21, minus 0.14; 076:26:14.49; plus 2133.7, plus 1123.3, minus 2178.1; 335, 116, 081 - correction 018. Rest of the pad is NA. Ullage is none. It's a docked maneuver, based on the LOI REFSMMAT. On a PTC REFSMMAT, the gimbal angles are 263, 017, and 310.
CC: That's affirmative, Charlie, and the yaw is 018.
CDR: That's affirmative; 018.
CC: You can go ahead. No sweat on the alert.
CMP: Roger; just going to let it time out.
CC: Okay, you can go ahead and torque them.
CDR: You have the torquing angles?
CC: Roger; we got them. You can go ahead and torque them.
CDR: Okay, I'11 torque them at 39. 45/11 Tape
CDR: That sure is a mighty super little platform, isn't it.
CC: Yeah, it's looking real sweet.
LMP: Okay, Pete, how about giving us a little recap on midcourse-2 burn as far as what y'all saw as chamber pressures and interface pressures? And how did the old SPS look, versus the calibrations?
CC: Roger. Stand by. We'11 get it for you.
CC: 16, Houston. I've got the figures on this burn that you wanted, and I guess I can start out by talking about the meter biases to make sure that we're clear on that. There's a 15-psi bias on the oxygen tank pressure. It's reading high. On top of that, there is a meter bias of 8 psi, which is also high, so that our total bias on the oxygen onboard pres- sure reading is about 23 psi high - oxidizer, I'm sorry. And, on the fuel, it's 7 low, total, which is a meter bias.
LMP: Okay, we understand.
CC: Okay. Then, with those numbers in mind, the chamber pressure during that burn was 100 psi, and the num- bers that you should have read on board prior to the burn were oxidizer tank pressure 205 and fuel tank pressure 177. And, after the burn, the num- bers you should have been reading were 197 oxidizer and 170 fuel. In other words, they both dropped - well, fuel - oxidizer dropped 8 and fuel dropped 7 psi dua_ing the burn. The interface pressures preburn were oxidizer 184 and fuel 187; and, during the burn, they were 168 oxidizer, 172 fuel. And, after the burn, the interfaces were oxidizer 174 and fuel 179. And all those look good to us.
CMP: Roger. We got you.
CC: Okay, I don't know whether you noticed your pres- sures during the burn. It was a pretty short burn_ but the oxidizer tank should hai_e _ead aTcu_ 205 and the fuel tank about 175, during the _su_n_
CDR: Charlie was watching them.
LMP: Okay, Pete. During the burn, when the engine came on, the pressure started down.
CC: Roger. That's what - that's what should have happened. It was at 205 and 177 preburn and went to 197 and 170 postburn. That's oxidizer and fuel, respectively. And that's - -
LMP: Okay, that's what we saw.
CC: Roger. And that - and our guys say that's - a - that's a - The figures look real good to them. performance That's the kind of they expected.
LMP: Okay, now for LOI. When the engine comes on, the helium valves open, and I can expect the pressures to rise and my gage reading for oxidizer to sit around 200 and, for fuel, to be around - 1 - 1757
CC: Around 1 - that's 200 on oxidizer and around 170 on fuel, Char!ie.
CMP: Could you have somebody put a few words together for me on what happens if the IMU gets coarse aligned while average g is still on? I'm thinking about the - at the end of the burn.
CC: Okay, you - you're wondering about the situation when - if you get the glitch after the burn but while average g is Still running?
CMP: Yes, sir. There's no chance of terminating aver- age g before that happens, and I'd kind of like to have some idea of what I might expect the - the navigation to do.
CC: Roger. We - we'11 get you an answer on that, Ken.
CC: 16, Houston. Can you - can you check for us and let us know whether Ken is on the biomed? Is Ken hooked up on the biomed? We're getting some strange readings. Could be a loose sensor.
CMP: It's pretty - it's pretty loose now; it's in my pocket.
CC: If it's in your pocket, that might account for it.
CMP: I'm not ignoring your - yeah, I'm not ignoring it; I just haven't had a chance to stop and put them on yet. I'11 get to it first chance I get.
CDR: Houston; over - this is 16. Over.
CDR: How's your biomed look now?
CC: Stand by a minute. We'11 look.
CC: We're still getting a noisy signal on the - on the biomed, 16.
CDR: Okay, Houston. We're maneuvering to the SiM bay door-jett attitude now.
CC: Roger_ copy.
CDR: Don, how do you read me now?
CC: Read you loud and clear. We copied your maneuver.
CDR: Okay. Roger. I - I had to switch back to the Snoopy hat. That lightweight headset just isn't working out.
CMP: Okay, we're going through the SiM door-jett checklist, and I've got here a - a list of verifys - SM/AC I'm on page 1-7, step 10 - and it has POWER on, and - and we haven't been on. With your con- currence, I'11 go ahead and turn it on now.
CC: Okay, Casper, you can go ahead and turn the POWER on.
CMP: Houston, I'm ready to put the PAN CAMERA POWER on to POWER.
CC: Okay, 16. Stand by a minute.
CC: Casper, we don't have any pan camera data yet.
CMP: Okay, I haven't put the POWER on yet. I'm - the checklist says to stand by for _FN cue. We have the DATA SYSTEM ON, the AUX TV is in the SCI, and we have SM/AC POWER on. PAN CAMERA switches are in STANDBY and OFF. 46/3 Tape
CC: Okay, Casper. You can go ahead and turn the POWER on and we'11 cue you when you - when to go to BOOST.
CMP: Okay, POWER's coming on on.
CMP: MARK. Barber pole's good; back to gray.
CC: Okay, Casper. You're GO for PAN CAMERA to BOOST.
CC: 16, we're standing by to arm the SM power buses.
CMP: Okay, I was going to hold up on that. I'11 go ahead and give you a LOGIC POWER to jettison at this time.
CMP: Here comes LOGIC POWER JETT 1 to JETT and number 2, JETT.
CC: Roger; we show them armed.
CC: And we're GO for door j ett.
CDR: Okay, understand GO for door jett.
CDR: Thirty seconds to door jett.
CC: Roger; 30 seconds.
CDR: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, I -
CDR: JETT. There it goes.
CDR: Okay, the door went, and I don't think anything changed much from what we could tell.
CDR: Okay, Houston, we can watch it spinning around, out both the center window and Charlie's window, and it's quite a sight every time it comes around; the bright side front really flashes.
CDR: Okay, Houston, that was a pretty good bang.
CDR: The reason it was is on account of we're standing around here in our underwear, you know. That is, helmets and gloves off.
CC: Roger; copied that.
LMP: And - I guess the - the sound - the sound of it was about half of what you hear when the - when you're in the LM and - and the CMP's in here and he hears the pressure reg - the pressure release valve closing on him.
LMP: The cabin repress valve, that is.
CMP: Okay, Don. Ail of the SIM bay configurations have been completed if you want to take a look at the data and see if there is anything %hat looks f,_uny to you, I can recheck it.
CC: Okay, Cas_er. Stand by 1 and we'11 take a look.
LMP: Okay, and we're going to P52 attitude now.
CC: Roger; copy. P52 attitude.
LMP: Okay, the door has rapidly receded from us, and it's certainly hard to tell how far away it is, but it's plenty far away; certainly no recontaet problem.
CC: Roger; copied. And, Casper, the SIM bay looks okay.
CMP: Roger; thank you.
CDR: That's a good start. And, we used only about 15 percent; we're reading magazine BB, 85 percent remaining.
CC: Magazine BB, 85 percent.
CMP: Houston, 16. Our LM/CM DELTA-P is 0.2 and the pressure equalization valve is open. Our cryo systems are configured.
CC: Roger; copied. LM/CM DELTA-P, 0.2.
CC: 16, we've got an L0I preliminary pad and, if you'11 go ACCEPT, we'11 up-link data.
CDR: Okay, going to ACCEPT.
LMP: Houston, 16. Go ahead with your pad.
CC: Roger, 16. It's LOI preliminary, SPS/G&N; 66314; plus 1.21, minus 0.14; 074:28:25.63; minus 2780.8, minus 0219.7, minus 0252.2; ROLL is all zips, PITCH 001_ YAW is all zips; NOUN 44 is 0170.0, plus 0058.3; 2800.8, 06:14, 2793.5; sextant star, 16, 242.9, 27.1; the rest of the pad is NA; set stars, Sirius and Rigel; 132; 196; 006. Ullage, none. 0ther:- hMweight, 36287; single-bank burn time, 06:28.
CDR: Okay, Houston. On the P30 pad readback, prelimin- SPS/G&N1⁄2 ary LOI_ 66314_ plus !.2_, minus 0.14; 074:28:25.63; minus 2780.8, minus 0219.7, minus 0252.2; 000, 001, 000; 0170.0, plus 0058.3; 2880.8, 06:14, 2793.5; 16, 242.9, 27.1; Sirius _nd Rigel; 132; 196; 006; no ullage; I2_ weight, 36287; single-bank burn time 06 plus 28.
CC: Charlie, let's check DELTA-V T . It should read at 2800.8.
LMP: Okay, 2800.8. Thank you.
CC: Roger; that's adjusted correct.
CC: 16, you can have the computer and back to BLOCK.
LMP: Back - back to BLOCK, Houston.
CC: And, Casper; Houston. We haven't forgotten your question about what happens if the glitch occurs while average g is running. We're still putting together a nice neat summary for you; we'11 come up with it a little later.
CDR: Okay, and I guess it's to tell us what the re- siduals are doing more than anything else and we'd like to know that.
CC: 16, we're still seeing intermittent data which indicates that one biomed sensor is probably loose on the CMl_.
LMP: Okay, Houston. You've been looking at John's biomed; Ken's getting suited up right now with his.
CDR: Okay, which one is it, ZPN or heart rate? Over.
CC: It's EKG, John.
CC: 16, you can terminate battery A charge.
CDR: Houston_ Apollo 16. Over.
CDR: Okay, in a minute and 40 seconds, she bias went from 100 to 101.1. Tape h6/7
CDR: ... a hundred.
CC: The G&C says that's okay. Soualds
CDR: good to us, too.
CDR: Roger; we're still here.
CC: Roger; loud and clear.
CDR: Houston, let me read you a note I found in the Flight Plan here right at 38 hours. Over.
CC: At 38 hours? affirmative.
CDR: That's I woke up after the first night and I find this note in here from Ken. It says: "John" - says - "We have had some sort of IMU or CMC hardware problem. Right after you went to sleep at 38 hours, the platform coarse aligned itself; we got it back with an Earth/Sun alignment. Fortunately, MCC had high belt [sic] rate all the time and we'11 work it out tomorrow. Sleep tight." Signed, PK (laughter). And I got up the next morning and I saw that in there_ and I said_ "Boy, that Ken's sure got a funny sense of humor."
CC: Yeah, I - I guess we would concur with that funny here sense of humor. We had some guys laugh all night.
CDR: Yeah, I (laughter) I guess I didn't believe the note (laughter).
CC: I - I can understand that.
CMP: Hello, Donald. Are you still there?
CC: Affirmative, still with you.
CMP: Okay, you want to have them take a look at the biomed data?
CC: Roger, Ken. We're doing that now.
CC: 16, it looks like the SIM bay temps are coming up a little. We may have to change our roll angle. We'11 come up with an angle for you in just a minute.
CC: And the biomode - med data looks good now.
CMP: Ail right, sir. And just as a curiosity item, you might note that it takes - with two of us working on putting those things on, it took us 15 minutes to put the data on and get hooked up. And I guess by yourself, it takes about 20 because you've got to use a mirror to see some of that.
CC: Okay, 16. We want you to go to a roll of 020 with the same pitch and yaw angles that you have now. And you should be able to do the P52 in the new attitude, and the high gain should stay locked up.
CDR: Delta ... 59 ...
CC: 16, you're very, very weak. Say again.
CDR: I said, we're there. I guess your temps will be stabilizing now.
CMP: Don, how about if we go ahead and do our P52s now?
CC: Okay. Go ahead, Ken.
CMP: Ail righty, thank you.
CC: Casper, would you verify that you are gonna load the - the DAP and then the EMi° 509 before you do the P527
CMP: That's in work right now.
UNKNOWN: Yeah, I guess you saw us get out of sequence there a little, but we're - we're back on now.
CC: Casper, hold up on your procedure there a minute.
CMP: Okay; holding. You're pretty good. You stopped old Casper in midpunch.
CC: Casper, apparently it's necessary to load the nor- mal DAP before you load the EMP, because once you've loaded the Saturn DAP, the LM weight and that sort of thing will not be accepted by the CMC. So we'd like to have you take the _P out, load the normal DAP, and then load the _ back in. We should of told you about that earlier, I guess. It slipped by.
CMP: Well, that's okay. I stopped and wondered about it, and then I decided I couldn't think of any reason why it wouldn't work the way we did it. Okay, we're back in sync now. Now we can start with 509. Is that affirmative?
CC: You've loaded the - the normal DAP now?
CC: Stand by just a minute. We're looking at it.
CC: Okay, Ken. It looks real good, and you can go ahead now with the E._ and the P52. Pane 259
CMP: Okay, will do. I kind of like this attitude you picked, Don. It's got the old Earth in the telescope.
CC: Hey, wonderful - -
CMP: ..... pretty.
CC: Plot board says you should be just about over Africa - -
CMP: - - ... picked this attitude for esthetic reasons. Well, it's orange. I guess that - that's sort of saying something.
CMP: Don, would you ask the guidance guys to take a look at ... I'm sure it's a typical thing, I just never noticed. I was watching the optics zero the other night, and using 1691 as the way to do that. And here again I - I watched it, and at the com- pletion of the zero, it looks like it went to - the register 2 display now, and I'm still in zero. I just thought that was kind of curious. Is that a bit size or something?
CC: Stand by 1. We'11 look at it.
CMP: I've taken it out of ZERO now. That's why it's counting. Then we'11 go ahead with the 52.
CC: I understand you're taking it out of ZERO now.
CMP: It was out of ZERO when it started counting. It went from 403 up to what you see now.
CMP: And that's due to trunnion trip.
CMP: Don, is there any reason to torc3e these since we're getting ready to go to an option 17
CC: Go ahead and torque them. And, Ken, could you check your - your mike placement? You're very, very weak.
CMP: Okay, Don. Is that any better?
CC: Yes, that's some better, Ken. Thank you.
CMP: And we'11 torque them at 23:10.
CMP: Don, just out of more academic interest, it turns out that the pea [?] packs and the - and the NOUN 91s are exactly the same.
CMP: Yeah, Don, what I was gonna say is that the - the peapacks [?] on the shaft are within - yeah - the readability of the DSKY. The trunnion then seems to be off by about 2/100, which I think is a pretty fine agreement. And for the interest of some of those people who are talking about these optics and whether they drift or not, if you can watch 1691 right now, you'11 find that I'm in - the MODE is MANUAL and I'm in DIRECT, and you can watch them drift slowly. And at low rate, I'11 go to RESOLVE, and they drift at approximately the same rate. There seemed to be some question about that earlier. I thought - some of the guys in the back might be interested in that.
CC: Okay, Casper, for your information, although we had you going ahead and load EMP 509 prior to the P52, it was not absolutely necessary at that point be- cause you did this P52 under SCS control. And any- time you're under SCS control, that TVC relay is not enabled. So you really don't have the problem. There's no way that glitch can get to you. But we wanted - we had to have the EM_ 509 loaded eventu- ally, so we figured we'd go ahead and let you get it in now.
CMP: Okay. I understand that, and thank you very much. 47/5 Tape
CMP: And with all this stuff over the next few days, it wouldn't hurt to keep a list of those things down there and connect - and kind of stay with me on those things to be sure I don't get one of them out of sync.
CC: Roger. We'11 follow you.
CC: Casper, Houston. When you get a few minutes to talk, we've got a little philosophy - philosophy on the use of the EMP 509 in lunar orbit.
LMP: Okay, can you stand by just a minute, please?
LMP: Pete, we moved the eat period up a little bit. We're getting all the food ready here.
CC: Roger. This can stand by for quite a while.
CMP: Okay, I'11 come back to you in about lO minutes with all that.
CC: Okay, Ken. Good enough; thank you.
CMP: Okay, Don. I'm - I got some free hands now, and got my little note pad out, and I'm ready to listen and copy and discuss anything you got on this stuff.
CC: Okay. I guess, Ken, the first thing we'11 talk about is the use of the EMP in lunar orbit, that is when you're - when you're alone in the space- craft. We - we do not plan to run EMP 509 con- tinuously, primarily because if you do, you don't have gimbal lock through gimbal lock protection. What we will do is we will run it during programs that involve TVC enable relay cycling, except for P52. Now, that means that we will run it for SPS burns, and you already have the procedures for LOi and DOI, and for other burns. The procedures will stay the same except that we may change the time sequences for doing some of the items. We will also run the EMP 509 for P24 and for rendezvous_ and we're having MiT verify that compatibility at you the present time. We'11 come back tc on vh_s_ with more details later. And during P52 with the P20 option 5, our current procedures call for going CMC, FREE. Instead of doing that, what we'11 do is we'11 go to this SPACECRA_ CONTROL, SCS; put the RATE switch HIGH; and BMAG MODE, RATE 2. And that way, the rate damping level is below your orb rate, and so your SCS, as far as control is concerned, will be equivalent to CMC, FREE. How- ever, by going to SCS control, if you want to check back on that list of set and reset conditions, you'11 find that by going to SCS control, we elimi- nate the possibility of getting this glitch.
CMP: Okay; would you say again how we're gonna handle P - nominally P20 option 5; we will not use 509. Is that correct?
CC: That's affirmative. We will not use 509 during P20 option 5.
CMP: Okay. And when we come to do a P52, we will still not use the option - the 509 - we're gonna go to SCS control and use RATE HIGH and MAX DEADBAND. Is that correct?
CC: Okay; RATE HIGH and MAX DEADBAND is okay, but G&C tells me you really - that the DEADBAND - you don'% need to go to MAX, it's - it's kind of immaterial which position you put the switch in. You do need the RATE switch in HIGH, and you need B_G MODE, RATE 2. That way you don't have an attitude con- trol situation. You have a rate control situation, but the level is high enough that it's well above the orb rate, and so the SCS will be equivalent to going CMC, FREE.
CMP: Okay; I understand that. Thank you.
CC: 0keydoke; and - -
CMP: I'11 leave it in DEADBAND and RATE, HIGH.
CC: Roger. And we'11 get more details to you later on the P24 and the rendezvous.
CMP: Okay. Doing good work. Tape _7/7
CC: Ken, there's one other comment here. If you are gonna, at some point in lunar orbit, do quite a bit of OPTICS switching, like MANUAL and AUTOMATIC and that sort of thing, we would suggest in that case that you load EMP 509 before you start playing with the optics and take it out again when you're finished.
CMP: Okay; any time we're doing that - I assume that means like in - when we're doing the landmark tracking, both high and low, and it's my under- standing from the comments we got now that the only time 509 can get me in trouble is if I leave it enabled during thrusting.
CC: That in general is - -
CMP: - - and also ... the automatic gimbal stop.
CC: That's absolutely correct, Ken. Those are the two cases.
CMP: Ail right, sir. Thank you very much. Hey, you might tell Tom Holloway that his little note pad has really come in handy. That's super.
CC: He's sitting here smiling and giving me the thumbs up right now.
CMP: Charlie just asked that everybody lock the doors until he finds his pea soup.
CMP: Don, how about if I put off this scan ratio thing another 10 minutes?
CMP: Okay, we're going ahead and get it out.
CMP: SHIELD is OFF at this time; we'11 turn back in 10 minutes.
CC: And, 16, I've got a TEI-4 pad, iF you're ready to copy.
CMP: You caught us at dessert.
CC: Roger; we'11 stand by.
CMP: Thank you, Don.
LMP: Okay, Pete. Go ahead with you P30 pad.
CC: Stand by just a minute, Charlie.
CC: Okay, Charlie. TEI-4, SPS/G&N; 41534; plus 0.64, plus 1.35; 083:07:14.13; plus 3289.6, plus 1150.1, minus 0327.6; 181, 056, 022. The rest of the pad is NA. Set stars, Sirius and Rigel; 131; 071; 014. Ullage, two jets, 17 seconds. Under Other: 1, burn undocked; 2, assumes no DOI; 3, assumes landing site REFSMMAT; 4, with LOI REFS_MAT; roll, 179; pitch, 183; yaw, 014. SPS/G&N;
LMP: Okay, Houston. TEI-4 is 41534; plus 0.64, plus 1.35; 083:07:14.13; plus 3289.6, plus 1150.1, minus 0327.6; 181, 056, 022. Sirius and Rigei; 131; 071; 014; two jets, 17 seconds. One is burn is undocked; 2, assumes no DOI; 3, landing site REFSMMAT; 4, LOI REFSMMAT; 179; 183; 014. Over.
LMP: Pete, 16 here. Looking through the telesc_e at the Earth - It's sure apparent that we live cna pretty planet. The colors are just such ... such ... such ... lot more vivid (laughter) than any of the photographs.
CC: Roger. We understand. We were just sitting here enjoying some of the beauties of Earth ourselves.
CDR: Somebody new serving coffee, huh?
CDR: I'm wise to you new people.
LMP: How many pots has the MOCR gone through already? Tape _7/9
CC: We'11 have to get you a count, but Jerry says it's a new record.
CC: 16 - 16, Houston. I've got a map update, rev 1_ It's at about 73:20 in the Flight Plan, and also I've got some answers to Ken's earlier question about this glitch and what if it occurs following a burn.
CC: Okay. Map update, rev 1. LOS: 074:17:41; 180 de- grees: 074:31:39. AOS with LOI: 074:50:05; with- out LOI: 074:42:08.
CMP: Okay; 074:17:41; 074:31:39; 074:50:05; 074:42:08.
CC: That's affirmative. Okay. Now, Ken, on this other question. As we understood your question, you're concerned about what happens after - at 2.5 seconds after the burn when you switch back to the RCS DAP and cycle this relay. What happens if you get the glitch_ and it looks like there are two cases. Either you get a - a yaw glitch of sufficient magnitude to put you into coarse align, or you get some kind of glitch that could be in roll, pitch, or yaw but does not put you into coarse align. If you go into coarse align, the nay is no good, and the NOUN 85s are no good, and in =hat case, we'd like you to exit average g as soon as possible by - by exiting the program. If you're not in coarse align, the nay is good, but the NOUN 85s are still no good.
CMP: Okay. Okay. We've got you.
UNKNOWN: Particularly in LOI, since there's no trim; that's only a problem for - for recording purposes anyhow.
CC: 16, Houston. I've get three items to go in the Flight Plan. At about 79:29 is the first one, and if we can get these in, that wi=± :In=sn up the Flight Plan updates for today.
UNKNOWN: Okay. Press on.
CC: Okay. , At 79:29 , right at * _h_ bottom of the page there, we want to add "Load _ 509," and at 79:3 - -
CMP: - - ... behind "Load N0_ 89."
CC: That's affirmative. After. It should fellow the "Load NOUN 89."
CMP: Okay. I've added "Load 509" after "Load NO_ 89."
CC: That's affirmative. And at 79:38, we want to delete the VERB 48 there, and _,a_ _ not assoclatec with the 509. That's simply because that's re- dundant. You're already in that DAP configuration.
CC: And at - 79:42 right after the _lSFi_,update block there, add "Terminate EMP 509 after P24 completed."
CMP: Okay . "Terminate 509 after P24 completed. _ " Now let me - Is that the last one or you got some more?
CC: That's all of them.
CMP: Okay. Let me read them back to you where i've got them to make sure I have it all right. At about 79:29-1/2 on the page, I've wrivten "Load 509." I have deleted the VERB 48 which occurs at 79:38; and 79:41 - 42, I've got "Terminate 509 after P24 is completed."
CMP: Okay. Thank you. 48/3 Tape
CMP: And, Don, on this first rev, if we wanted to take some pictures or something, can we stick with magazine November November? i can't tell right now what that's scheduled for. Or should we use maga- zine Victor?
CC: Stand by. We'11 let you know.
CC: Casper, November November looks pretty iow on the pad. You should get a magazine Victor.
CMP: Okay. Thanks.
CC: 16, Houston. We've got a couple more words on the LM paint-peeling problem. Apparently, it has been duplicated now in a vacuum chamber, and it does not appear to be any kind of a problem as far as the mission is concerned.
CMP: Well, that's fine to hear. Thank you now.
CC: Roger. It's nothing leaking; it's just the paint itself.
CDR: Don, we're getting ready to start into the second- ary glycol loop check.
CC: Okay. We're ready to follow.
CDR: Okay. The SECONDARY COOL LOOP PUMP is about to go OFF.
CDR: PUM2 ACi's on on the SECONDARY LOOP.
CDR: Okay. And we see the outlet temperat'_re decreasing.
CMP: Houston, 16. Are y'all satisfied with the nitrogen pressures on the SPS?
CMP: Thank you. LM/CM
CMP: Houston, DELTA-P is 0.2 again. LM/CM
CC: Roger. DELTA-P, 0.2.
CDR: Houston_ I just got my head unlocked and wiggled it out of window number 1, and we have a half-Moon in earthshine. It is really pretty.