Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
CMP: Well, I'm trying to - to recall what Jack said on its and what I see. I'm not sure, did he men- tion the - the dark part to the south - on the south side of Copernicus? In other words, you can see albedoes real well, and there's a dark area that extends maybe - oh, a half a crater diameter, three-quarters of a crater diameter to the south_ and then it kind of flows down in - I don't know - ! don't want to say flows, but at least it carries itself do_ - down the crater wall - down to the crater floor. And this is kind of in the south maybe from 6 - or let's see, from about 4:30 to '[:30° And then the rest of the crater all the way - all the rest of the way around it, you can see light albedo step all away around the crater. The first step down about a fourth of the way down in the crater wail.
CMP: Okay. Unfortunately, those things really disappear fast.
CC: Roger. Take - take a look at the peaks and con- centrate on that mountain in the center of the peaks, if you will, Ron.
CMP: Okay. Is - it's already passed now but I can recall as - as I was looking at it, the peaks - well, seems to me like there's four and they have the same light albedo texture as the - not texture, but the same light albedo - as that first - rings on the inner wall of the crater. And then inter- spersed between those white peaks were a darker - you could just tell it's the darker - albedo. And you couldn't tell for sure - it's not part of the crater floor, it's just a darker albedo inter- spersed in there. And I spent - oh_ half my time trying to acquire the thing in the binocs. And it just cuts - the binocs just cut down the light too much.
CC: Okay. We'11 try maybe later on with the binocs on Copernicus. I guess you're coming up in the Kepler area, aren't you - your - your right coming up on Kepler B.
CMP: Yes. I think there should be Kepler B right out there now.
CMP: Let's see - Yes, that's out in Oceanus Procellarum, I guess, isn't it?
CMP: Yes, and then Aristarchus is coming up, I thinks isn't it? No, that's Kepler.
CC: I think Kepler is the real bright one with many bright rays from - coming out it. C_ Yes, it's got a - got a lot of the bright rays on it. Kepler D, and must be another one down there. They, the two small Keplers, don't show any bright rays at all. Do show they're - they've bright slopes on the inner walls. The rays of Kepler really show up quite markedly in the earth- shine. I bet - I bet they show up probably better in earthshine than they do - otherwise. Because I think earthshine tends to bring out the - the albedo differences - considerably.
CMP: Okay, will do. And then what's directly south of Kepler, there's one about the same size as Kepler?
CC: Encke is about the same size and directly south of Kepler.
CMP: Yes, that's Encke. Okay, Encke.
CMP: Encke has - departing from the west - Yes, no, I mean departing on its eastern side - it's either - it's a light - I don't see how in the world it can have only one ray, but that's the only one I can see. But there's a light streak - oh about an eighth of the diameter of Encke; and it goes out to the east a little ways and then curves back - it goes out to the east - oh, about three- quarters of the crater diameter, and then it es- sentially curves back to the northeast and continues on out for another crater diameter.
CMP: That might be - that might be the margin of the highlands, there. I'm not sure.
CMP: Let's see, Reiner Gamma is going to be out of window 3, won't it?
CC: That's affirmative, Ron. Window 3 for Reiner G_mma.
CMP: Yes. Okay. Just north of - sure can't remember those names - Kyher?
CC: North of Kepler, there?
CMP: Kepler. Yes.
CC: Yes, did you see them going up toward Marius, there?
CMP: Yes, there's ... zero phase. Yes, I can see Aristarchus. I think that must be Aristarchus. Way back over to the north.
CC: Yes, that's - that's Aristarchus. C_P Sure - -
CMP: - - yes, yes.
CMP: Yes. It - I've sort of kind of looking for it. I can just see some - about three or four light spots up in there. But that's a long ways away, you know.
CMP: It's about halfway - it's about halfway to the horizon. Or the real light area. Let's see, and you can see Reiner G_ma. I guess Reiner is the crater there .... Isn't there a big crater just before you get to it - -
CMP: - - I think. And then Reiner Gamma - Hey, you know, from here it almost looks like it's the - the ejecta from a crater, because (chuckle) and then continuing from the bottom of the - bottom of the Gamma is a - again a lighter albedo that comes down toward the crater Reiner about halfway between the two of them, and then it takes off and goes perpendicular to - to the line between Reiner and Reiner Gamma.
CMP: And that's a lighter - lighter albedo demarcation, there.
CC: Is there any topographical expression associated with brightness - with the brightness of G_r_aa? C_ Well, that's what it - is - is very hard to pick up. Maybe that's what the - what I'm describing here - is going perpendicular to the - to the two of them. I got to check and see if that's a - you know, a rise from a relatively flat area up to a kind of a - a hilly terrain.
CC: Any dark deposits associated with the Gamma? Reiner Gamma? Yes, it's - the Gamma, itself, is - is dark. Now, when zero - zero - Hey, I think we're going to be lucky - zero phase is going to go right through it. But there are dark - in other words, the Gamma, itself - is about the same size as the - as the - the full extension is about the same size as the crater Reiner. And then half of a crater diameter on the inside of that - and, of course, in the Gamma-type shape is a dark type material. Zero- phase is going right through it right now. By gosh, it didn't blot out the dark at all.
CC: Do the light-colored markings to the north look the same_ Ron? C_ You knows you get - you mean off toward the Marius Hills area?
CMP: There's a - the only light - yes, the only light- colored stuff that you can see - I don't see any- thing off towards the Marius Hills on the thing. You see it right around Reiner Gsmma itself. And intermixed within that is that dark - it's a dark annulus, except the annulus is on the inside of the white. And it looks like - i don't know if your eyes deceive you in this darkness or nots but it sure looks the light-colored stuff is raised up with respect to the dark. In other words, the dark almost looks like the interior of a crater - crater rim, interior of a crater wall, you know - -
CMP: - - with the light material around it. Now that's what it looks like in the - in the darkness. And then on the - let's see - southwestern rim of it, it almost looks like you've got a breach of the dark albedo stuff going out to the southeast corner of it in two spots. Okay, then the light stuff turns into - how do you put it - a darker swirly looking type stuff as you continue on west of Reiner Gamma. It crosses kind of a wrinkle ridge, I can see a wrinkle ridge down there, now. It crosses the wrinkle ridge with the no - no apparent change in albedo, anyhow, as it crosses the ridge.
CC: Roger. Got you, and I think I've got the ridge on my map. I think we've got you. CMl° Okay.
CC: Still - still think it might be a ray from one of those craters - -
CMP: It looks like it was a lot thicker than - than a ray.
CMP: Yes. Okay, this must be - what - Riccioli, I guess? The big crater? About -
CC: You're just coming up on Ricci - Grimaldi and you got to go through Hevelius, first of all, and then you get into Grimaldi and Riccioli. CMl° Okay, that's Heveiius, then, is the one I'm passing right now. Hevelius is showing up real clear. You can see the slumping of the crater walls coming down there. It's a fairly old-type crater because you don't see any - any rays associated with it. Although the - the slumping is not completely degraded. There's a flat floor with a central peak on it. The central peak has the same albedo - it's a lighter albedo - no, the same atbedo texture as the walls - as the west wall.
CC: Roger. Looks like you're just passing a little bit to the west of Grimaldi now. You concur with that? About right over Riccioli?
CMP: it doesn't look like Grimaldi to me - I guess it is, though.
CC: Okay_ Ron. You probably ought to think about - If it's getting kind of dark there for seeing or any- thing, you might consider getting in the P52, although you're a couple more minutes - still a couple minutes left on it. If you can see back at anything within Reiner Gamma - -
CC: - - from this angle, it would be good; otherwise, if it's out_ you ought to just consider the 52.
CC: Okay. That was some good stuff, Ron. Just don't hesitate to keep talking on that. We can sort it all out when we get down.
CMP: Okay. Well, the bright - Ifm looking out window i now. Must be out to the north I guess, and there's two very bright craters, in there, just crossing some rilles that run north and south. There's a little bit of a mare material ont in there. I wish I knew wha_ that crater was. Well, i better get going on P52, I guess. CMl° (Humming - "Deck the Halls")
CC: Well, Roger. Understand you're changing the LOH - LiOH canister now. CMl° (Laughter) No, the optics.
CC: Okay, good. CMl° Tele - yes - telescope. When you - you take the telescope out, it's got a heater on it in there and it keeps it nice and warm. Okay, CMC, FREE. Do a P52, option 3. Okay, then back to P20. Okay, this time we will not forget to go to AUTO.
CMP: Okay, computer, find me a star. *** out there. Menkar. Okay, take me to Menkar. 0h!
CMP: Looks like Menkar.
CMP: And Canopus is as bright as all get out.
CC: Just like the simulator, huh?
CMP: *** bright that - brighter than any star we've ever had in the simulator. *** so bright it almost blanks out the crosshair. Got Saturn.
CC: Yes, hope it's not Saturn, huh?
CMP: (Laughter) Me, too.
CC: Well, we'11 know in a minute when we look at your NOUN 05.
CMP: Oh, man, okay.
CC: Nothing wrong with that one.
CMP: That's pretty good.
CC: Yes. We'11 buy that. CMl° Think that's a good one?
CC: Okay, Ron, you can go ahead and torque.
CMP: Okay. We'11 torque at 19.
CC: Good show, huh? CMl° Now my new - bet that's in there, isn't it - unit vectors of Saturn. Would that be in here, somewhere?
CC: Say again, Ron? CMl° These unit vectors of Saturn, aren't they in my - planet unit vectors -yes, stars - oh, here we go.
CC: Just beautiful. Old Fendell's been hunting for all night, but he finally found it. It's just beautiful.
CC: Ron, we're 5 minutes from LOS here. Everything's looking great. Just - you have to finish off your checklist on that TM, P20 and CMC MODE back to AUTO. And then just a reminder on that LOH [sic] canister: if you'd go back and pick that up, we'd appreciate it. CMl° Okay, we'11 get that one. I'm going to try and see if I can find Saturn here. 93B/21 Tape
CC: This VOX mode is just great. We're sitting here following what you're doing. You don't even have to talk to us. It's really great.
CMP: (Laughter) I think it's great, too.
CC: Your voice is so clear - - Oh, shucks. Now the fuel is - -
CC: You sound like you're in the next room.
CMP: Oh, really? You know, that's funny because I really can't hear myself and the - you know, on the intercom.
CMP: Well, I'11 have to look ... - -
CC: - - louder in my earphone than in the simulator, when you're down at the Cape, or over here across the way. You're just loud and clear, even better than down there.
CMP: (Laughter) That's good. Well, it's beyond the field of view. So we'11 have to catch it another time.
CC: Yes, that's too bad.
CC: We're going to pick you up at 144:10. I'11 be losing you in a minute or so. And 144:10 has a good back side.
CC: And you might check your ZPN settings when you - your sensors - when you get a chance on the back side here. They're still not giving much good data.
CMP: Okay. Yes, it looks like I'11 have a little time this time, so I'11 do it.
CC: Roger. Just don't let them tear you away from the window, though.
CC: And we've dumped the data from the last couple of back-side revs and you sound real good, Ron.
CMP: I didn't even - I didn't know that until they left. Okay, the old LiOH canister, let's see - 13 into A, and 13 must be in A-9 then. (Humming)
CC: Hey, Ron. We just had a discussion here and your point is well taken, and why don't you Just go ahead, if you want to, and take the ZPN sensors, the yellow plug ones, off and take them off for the evening, if you like.
CMP: Hey, that sounds like an excellent idea. Thank you.
CMP: Okay, we're tl - out - picked nice small ones, I gueas. None of them have been stuck so far. Tape9aA/1 APOLLO 17 AIR-TO-GROUND VOICE TRANSCRIPTION
CDR-EVA: Bob, you want another sample of the dark mantle here? Could you use that?
CC: Yes, we want - As soon as you get into the dark mantle - We're estimating it's something like 4.34, 4.5, somewhere in that vicinity. [2_P-EVA We' re there.
CC: Okay. We're ready for another one, then.
LMP-EVA: We're there. Now, let's - If you can - Okay, right over there, and maybe I can get a rock with it_ See that batch of rocks there?
CDR-EVA: Right here? Llv[P-EVA Whoa. Yes. Swing it. Whoa, now swing back over. Little more, little more. Whoa. Little more.
CDR-EVA: Can you - can you reach it?
LMP-EVA: Now, if you go forward.
CDR-EVA: Can you reach it? kMaX-EVA Hold it. Right there.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Bob; 082, 5.0, and 4.3.
CC: Copy that. CDR-
LMP: And
CDR: is 3.85 and about 70 percent and no flags.
CC: Okay. Thank you, Geno.
CDR-EVA: You got it? Okay?
LMP-EVA: I got the rock. i got the _ock, and there's some dirt in there. Maybe I'd better get a little bit more dirt.
LMP-EVA: You don't have any trouble getting dirt. Can you see in there? Is there - -
LMP-EVA: - - Much soil?
CDR-EVA: Oh, a little bit - -
LMP-EVA: Okay. I'11 get - I'11 get this soil.
CDR-EVA: Couple teaspoonsfull. Twenty-eight Echo, Bob.
CC: Say again there, 17.
CDR-EVA: Twenty-eight Echo.
CDR-EVA: And that's primarily a rock fragment. Jack's getting a soil fragment - soil sample with it.
CDR-EVA: Jack, look at the wrinkles over there on the North Massif.
LMP-EVA: Yes, there's no question that there is apparent lineations all over these Massifs, in a variety of directions. Hey, look at how that Scarp goes up beside there. There's a distinct change in texture.
LMP-EVA: As a matter of fact, lineations are not present on the Scarp, that we can see, where it crosses the North Massif. There is no sign of those lineations on there.
LMP-EVA: Yes, CDR-_A Okay. This last one was 29 Echo.
CC: Okay. Copy that. And that's the soil.
CDR-EVA: Okay, now I need to get in that bag. That's firm. CDR-EV.a Here's another one. You're going to - don't lose those.
LMP-EVA: I won't, i'11 put it down. rolling.
CC: Copy that. _4P-EVA And pray for me, Bob, that I don't lose my camera. Okay. Hanover is very- - quite a ways up the slope. I don't think we'd have gotten to it, as we planned that time. But the appearance you have of the Scarp - North Massif contact is one of the Scarp being smoother textured, less eratered, and cer- sur- tainly less lineated. And I wouldn't be a bit prised if it's, as Gene says, younger.
CC: Okay, Jack. Copy ghat. -
CDR-EVA: But that goes It's not just the - it's not just this slope, it's the materials on the other side of the Scarp, on the west side.
LMP-EVA: have Okay, I'm going to to really ease up on pic- gtu_es. I forgot to give them a frame count.
CC: Yes. We didn't get a frame count. You want to give us a frame co,it there, Jack? LML°-EYA Well, Bob. The problem is i - if I - every time I tske my hand off, my camera loosens up again.
CC: Okay; I copy that. And our estimate is that if you kind of go between 50 and 100 meters between frames, we'11 make it. CDR-_A Boy, I tell you. Are those Massifs getting to look big now. Holy Smoly.
LMP-EVA: That frame at the LRV sample was about 115.
LMP-EVA: I'11 tell you, that Scarp looks nice over there, too, doesn't it?
CDR-EVA: Yes. IMP-EVA Okay, we're back down in our old friend, the dark mantle. And I think the zero phase point is not as bright as it was. Passing a small crater, but the block population is still way down there in about - Whoops, watch that one - 1 percent.
CC: And, 17, for your benefit, we're showing you with very good net mobility rates here; and things look- ing quite good.
LMP-EVA: Thank you. Gene's doing a great job.
CDR-EVA: I'11 tell you, it takes all your time to drive, though. You look around, and you're in a hole.
LMP-EVA: We still don't have - The craters at about 10 to 15 meters in diameter seem to have somewhat more blocky material in their rims. But they're not clearcut blocky rim craters. And here's one that's probably 50 meters across that has a - a fair num- ber of blocks in the bottom. Looks like it might have just about gotten down to where the gabbro is - starts to be abundant again.
CC: Oka_ya I copy on that one, Jack. CDH-EVA ... start o._ 12 o'clock - 12 o'clock; mud I'm going Lo work my way up to Hole-in-the-Wall and from there on up_ right?
LMP-EVA: That's good. CDR-E_,'A TaY_e a long_ easy t_lrnoLtt_ L_L_-EYA Yes. CDR-EWA Got Hole-in-the-Wall_ Bob. It's a very long, ¥ery subtle_ very gentle slope. We'11 just have to get some more _ords when we get there.
CC: Okay; we're a_xious]:Z awaiting them.
CC: How about a range and bearing while you're at it'." CDR-EYA Yes, I;ve been t_king 10 or t2 clicks most of tile time.
CC: Copy 4.9 on the range.
CDR-EVA: And about - 20 to 2© e_ps most of the time.
LMP-EVA: 0kay_ we':_e losing a little bit of LOW GAiN there, Geno.
CDR-EVA: Yes. Llv_-EVA I think you need to tilt it up a little, l_robably undershooting the Earth. I don't know. CDR-EYA Well_ o_r pitch angle ci_anges all tim time. ThaV's the problem. Bob, I have been within 10 to 20 ae- grees of you the whole time.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Bob_ we're not in light mantle, I don't think. Maybe we are_ CDR-E%rA i thir,2_we are _ Jack. LMP-_YA Yes, I guess we are.
CDR-EVA: I think we are. According to my geology map ... LMI°-EVA I guess we are. Gosh, I was going to say the craters are white - whiter than they have been. So, we're back in it. And - -
LMP-EVA: - - even the phase point's brighter, too.
CDR-EVA: I think that place where we had those small, blocky craters was within the dark mantle. I - They're not evident here in the lighter stuff.
CDR-EVA: Boy, is that getting big. [
LMP-EVA: Whoo-ee
LMP-EVA: Whoooee? Oh, boy, that really gives me a strange feeling (laughter).
CDR-EVA: Gives me a strange feeling too. Those are not intentional. IJMP-EVA I understand.
CDR-EVA: I'm not sure I've got enough guts to make them intentional. Man everything's getting to look big the closer you get. Hole-in-the-Wall looks more promising, though, Bob.
LMP-EVA: Yes, I don't think that's going to be any problem until we get up and look back. Oh, man, what a trip this is going to be. Golly.
LMP-EVA: That vent cooling is just about right, isn't it.
CDR-EVA: Bob, is my PLSS cooling working all right?
CC: Roger. it looks like it's working to us. CDR- E_fA Okay. LMP-EYA Bob, I'm not - The rock fragments look - still look like gabbro. The craters tend to have white walls and white rims, which they don't have in the dark - mantle area_ _e block population is way down, 1 percent or less. However_ the bigger cra- have ters do more blocks; but nowhere does that population seem get above about 5 percent. And that's on the walls and the rims of the craters, say bigger than 15 meters. There's one probably 20 meters in diameter that has some blocks on it.
CDR-EVA: Have you seen Nemo? I think Nemo is right over there, if I'm not mistaken. It's - Z don't know. _{P-EVA Nemo will be hard to see. But, yes, it's probably that one right in there. Or back here. There's one back here°
CDR-EVA: Well, it's pretty - -
LMP-EVA: Yes, well -Yes, that's closer to Scarp. You're probably - it's probably right off your wing there.
CDR-EVA: Okay, I'm going straight ahead and then I'm going to make a left turn.
CDR-EVA: Hey_ Bob: Hole-in-the-Wall seems to be a - -
LMP-EVA: Hey, look at thet. Look at that crater!I
CDR-EVA: Right there? Yes.
LMP-EVA: That pit - that central pit goes down about half the depth of the craver, and the crater is a fresh 3-meter crater. That's - It almost was a cylin- drical pit. Hey, Bob, Hole-in-the-Wall is a - is just a step - headed down to the south or southeast on the Scarp. It's a - Scarp is just about what I think we all expected it to be. It's very rolling and relatively smooth. I don't really see any outcrops exposed anywhere out here to the - to the south. T_JMP-EVA No. You see, now there's station 3 area right up there.
LMP-EVA: Looks like maybe that - set of - see that bright bigger crater over there to the right of Lara? That's probably a good place for station 3.
CDR-EVA: Yes, way over there. Yes. Okay, we're going to find out something very shortly.
LMP-EVA: It doesn't look very rocky, Gene.
CDR-EVA: No. LM2P-E_A ...
CC: How about bearing and range, guys?
CDR-EVA: Bob, I'11 give it to you Just as soon as I make my turn. It's not too far - 100 meters - LM3'-EVA Are - are you - are you going to turn over that or go on closer - -
CDR-EVA: No, I'm going right up straight ahead and then go on to the inside of that place.
LMP-EVA: Yes. That's more than 100 meters.
LMP-EVA: There's the - Now the craters are getting very, very light colored - in the rims and walls.
CDR-EVA: You notice when we're in the light mantle looking at the scarp, at this angle, it loses some of its high albedo?
LMP-EVA: Yes. Yes. I think we're getting - -
CDR-EVA: We've got a long depression to go around. I2_P-EYA Your eyes get used to it.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Jack, we got to watch it because I got to go around a long depressions. That's a crater over there.
LMP-EVA: On the right, yes.
CDR-EVA: I don't know how - can get over there to -
LMP-EVA: I think - -
CDR-EVA: I may have to go up over there. I can't go down that hole. That one's not going to make it.
LMP-EVA: What's your pitch?
CDR-EVA: Let's go back here. We can't get there. I'm going to go over here.
LMP-EVA: What was your pitch then, Geno?
CDR-EVA: Oh, ... primarily. I can't go there.
LMP-EVA: Yes, I think you're right.
CDR-EVA: We'11 go up this gentle slope. See what's on top.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Let me get my ...
CDR-EVA: I don't think we're going to have any choice.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Looks to me like right on the - just to the left of that - -
LMP-EVA: - - white crater is a - or even right like you're headed now and then veer off to the right.
CDR-EVA: Find out how this climbs in a minute.
LMP-EVA: Oh, I think you're all right. That - -
LMP-EVA: This is the first tongue(?) of the scarp.
CDR-EVA: I don't even think the Rover mows it's going uphill. I've got about 3 - 7 or 8 amps. See what's on top here.
LMP-EVA: You're making about 8 - 8 clicks.
CDR-EVA: And I'm full bore. LMP- EVA (Laughter )
CDR-EVA: Well, I'11 tell you, this Rover doesn't know it's going up the hill.
LMP-EVA: Looks to me like you may be able to head just like you' re going.
CDR-EVA: Yes. Hey, Bob, we'11 make it.
LMP-EVA: And get down - -
LMP-EVA: Okay. Whatever makes up the light mantle is - in - at least, the incident rock that it forms is much lighter than anything we see. Those fragments probably - are 30 percent lighter than any frag- ments we see on the dark mantle. And that's around the fresh craters. But it is not blocky. Bob, are you still reading?
CC: Roger. Read you loud and clear. LMP-_fA Okay, I just wanted to make sure my antenna's working
LMP-EVA: Yes, I think we're in good shape. Bob, I can't - there are not any blocks big enough to really make a statement about what the rock is. But it - it really doesn't look like gabbro anymore.
LMP-EVA: It doesn't have that - -
CC: And a reminder that eventually you're going to have to turn to the south a little bit to pick up - the final thing at the - station 2.
LMP-EVA: We're not on top of that scarp, yet. We're still in the Hole-in-the-Wall rim.
CC: Okay. Copy that. _P-EVA Bob, as far as lineations in the soil or on the surface that are observable at this range, I don't - i don't see any. I think there may be a finer raindrop pattern on the light mantle than maybe %here was out on the dark. But that's an awfully hard judgment to make.
CC: Okay. Copy that. _MP-KVA How you doing, Geno?
CDR-EVA: Doing fine, Bob. We've slowed down between about 5 to 8 - maybe 5 to 10 clicks most of the time. I'm going to head right up there, I think. Get around this crater.
LMP-EVA: Pretty healthy roll you're going to have here.
CDR-EVA: Yes, I'm going to head more straight up the hill. Once I get up on top, I'11 be all right. I'm going to head down in this hole and then up that way.
LMP-EVA: Yes, I think - -
CDR-EVA: I don't mind pitch, but I sure don't like roll.
CDR-EVA: Now I'm going to head straight up - I'm going to head straight up that slope right there. Okay.
CC: Okay, Jack. Copy that. Give us a hack when you get up on top of the scarp there. Ii_P-EVA Okay.
CMP-EVA: Let me tell you, Bob, I've got to go cross-slope some of the time because the Rover is really working to go uphill now.
CDR-EVA: But we' re _lmost there.
LMP-EVA: As I look up the scarp to the west, there are some big blocks scattered around on our horizon; but, again, I would guess that we're not dealing with more than - 2 or 3 percent total coverage of blocks in here, at that.
CDR-EVA: Well, I think, for the most part - for the most part, we're on top... - -
LMP-EVA: Yes, we're - we're on top.
CDR-EVA: Jack, where was Nansen with respect to those tracks up there? L_-EVA Well, they never really had any good tracks pinned down, I don't think, on that - You'11 be able to see Nansen, I think soon as you get over this hill.
CDR-EVA: Boy, I tell you, when we look back, that's going to be quite a sight if we can see into that Sun. We have been coming uphill. Well, I'd say this is the - this is the last straw to the top. And is she workingX Come on, baby. _P-EVA Okay. I think you bear -
CDR-EVA: I'm going to try to get over along the base of the massif now.
LMP-EVA: Yes. Head towards that track area there, anyway. There are a lot of boulder tracks coming down from the blue-gray rocks, Bob. We'11 see whether or not we're going to get to those tracks at Nansen, or we might want to move over to the track and see if we can find the boulder that made them.
CC: Okay; if they're in the vicinity, it might be a nice idea - -
LMP-EVA: But there's no question where those tracks come from.
CC: And we gather you're slowing down to about 5 clicks rise. now_ coming up this last
CDR-EVA: Yes, I'm back up to about 7 to 10 now, Bob. That's the slowdown - is becau_e that's about all it wiil take. LMP-_;A Bob, I have the impression that there is a dipping zone of blue-gray outcrops or block concentrations up there on the Massif that trends from the high point just beneath the Earth - cross-slope - and probably is - at least the apparent depth is - oh, I don't know, 10 or 15 degrees to the east. It looks like those outcrops may match up along that trend.
CDR-EVA: Jack, I'm going to head right along this ridge because I think that's the depression we were talking about.
LMP-EVA: Yes, That's Nansen down there.
CDR-EVA: Right - Where are you looking?
LMP-EVA: I think, right below -
CDR-EVA: I think you're right. I think that's it. Let me get over here, and then I'11 head a little bit to the south. L_-EVA Yes, we're a little more west, I think, than we intended to be.
LMP-EVA: Bob, I've had an impression, and I can't prove it yet, that we're dealing with more heterogeneous rock. Possibly there are breccias in here. But it's - it's - awfully hard to tell right now. They're very light-colored rocks - I think even lighter colored than the gabbros.
CC: Okay. We'11 soon find out.
LMP-EVA: I'm afraid those - I think we can follow those tracks - the pictures, maybe, or -
CDR-EVA: Yes, I think we can see some of those coming down. LMP-_A I think the ones from the big outcrop of blue-gray rock, though, are the ones going into Nansen.
CC: Okay. We copy that, Geneo.
CDR-EVA: And, let me tell you, this is quite a Rover ride.
CC: It sure sounds like it.
CDR-EVA: That is quite a machine, I tell you. I think it would do a lot more than we'd let it. Lb{P-EVA (Laughter) That's right. I think that big crater up there on the side is the one that you can see in the photographs, just above station 2.
CDR-EVA: Yes. I think if I come up here, do a hard left turn; you unbuckle your belt, you'11 roll right down into the bottom of Nansen. L_._-EVA I'm afraid you're right ....
CC: Okay. And remember we're going to about 068 and about 7.4 will be station 2. At least that's our estimate.
CDR-EVA: Okay, there's Nansen over there, huh?
LMP-EVA: Well, I think so.
LMP-EVA: I think you're right. It's got to be it. Got to be it. Yes, Bob, I think we're into a breccia population now. I think the blocks in the light mantle are largely breccias. 'fhey're mottled in their characteristics. Their white zaps do not seem to be nearly as burned. They tend to be chalky when they get hit. At least, in the large craters, the walls are chalky looking. Oh, yes. We've got boulders in station 2.
CDR-EVA: Yes, they're there. Yes, sir.
LMP-EVA: Boy, I tell you, if I hand on to this camera until you stop and can tighten it up, it'11 be a miracle.
CDR-EVA: Bob, how long have we been driving?
CC: Stand by. We estimate you've got about a kilometer and a half to go - a little over a kilometer, anyway. Stand by, we'11 check on the time. You're doing great.
CDR-EVA: How long in - -
LMP-EVA: Man, this has been a trip.
CDR-EVA: Man, I tell you. You know, we're really up on top of this thing. Whoo!
CC: You guys have been driving 64 minutes_ and that counts the time to stop and deploy the charge and pick up the Rover samples. _MP-EVA Hey, Bob. We're very clearly going downhill now, into the trough area that - that surrounds the Massif where - or between the mantle and the massif. But the trough is much greater in extent than just Nansen scale. It's probably a kilometer wide. I never realized that it was so - so much of a de- pression in here.
CC: Okay. How about a range and bearing readout.
LMP-EVA: I'm not sure we're going to be able to see the LM.
CDR-EVA: We won't be able to see the LM from down here. We'11 be too iow to see it. Fact is, I don't think I can see that far.
LMP-EVA: The surface patterns are still the same, Bob. The main difference being that we're getting probably a gradual increase in block population, and the blocks seem to be of a different char- acter. They - they may be breecias.
CC: Okay. Copy that. LM2D-EVA And around the crater here that's maybe 75 meters in diameter, the - there's probably 5 percent blocks - fragments, I should say - greater thar. a centimeter.
CDR-EVA: Boy, look at all the dust a_ound that fender. I hate to think of what it would have been like with that fender gone. I_P-EVA Yes. There's a good-sized block, sort of blue-gray.
CDR-EVA: Looking up there, Jack, I ought to get some 500s looking right up that hill, but - - IA{P-EVA Well, you may want to do that way out a way, a ways.
CDR-EVA: It's - some of that stuff is mantled - or buried in the massif material. Some of it just seems to be laying on it, of course.
LMP-EVA: Yes. Well, I think it has to do with how long it's been there. You'11 tend to get the downslope move- ments forming uphill fillets, and that's what a lot of it looks like.
CDR-EVA: Most of it is uphill fillets. Most of it is pretty sharp. But my guess, from back at the LM, that those blocks on the massif were much more angular - I think is a good guess because that's what they look like to me here. LMP-E_A And looking up into our blue-gray outcrop area, t still have even more the impression that there's; a - a planier (?) orientation that dips off to the southeast - maybe just fracturing, but I - pretty clear up there, I think. It may - it may be shadows.
LMP-EVA: That is a high mountain.
CDR-EVA: Gemine Christmas ! T_MP-EVA Listen, if the Earth goes behind it, we're changing station 2. (Laughter) It'11 be nip and tuck, pardon the expression. Okay. As we get closer, actually, we're out of the very - the block area. And that blocky region of 5 percent may have been just associated with that crater. I still see no lineations although - -
CDR-EVA: Look at these wrinkles, though, Jack - - I_P-EVA Yes. I mean on - I was talking about the mantle.
CDR-EVA: Oh. LMm-EVA But you're right about on the massif.
CDR-EVA: The same wrinkled lineations we saw trending - sloping uphill to the west on the eastern half of the massif are still very evident at this Sun angle.
CC: Okay, 17; And we're estimating that you should be there within - - LMP- EVA ...
CC: - - about 5 minutes to meet the walkback constraints.
CDR-EVA: Well, we're - Bob, we're almost ready to park.
CC: Ok ay. Be aut iful. LMP-_A Well, I wouldn't have gone so far as to have said th at.
LMP-EVA: We're getting close. 94A/19 Tape
CDR-EVA: I'11 give them their 5 minutes. We'11 make it by then. M_P-EVA Bob, the boulder tracks are really just chains of small craters, for the most part.
CC: Okay; copy that. That's interesting.
CDR-EVA: I don't think we can tilt that television - i don't think they can tilt the television camera high enough to see the top of the massif. Jack, we're on the edge here, but I don't know - Is that that - Well, let me go up here.
LMP-EVA: No, you're doing great.
LMP-EVA: See, there's Nansen off to my right now.
CDR-EVA: Yes, I just want to make sure that I'm not driving down a hole here, which I am, but - I don't w_t to drive down Nansen. L_-EVA No, I - you won't. The saddle - the end of Nansen is over there near those blocks. Right over there. _-EVA Look at those blocks. Unfortunately, the boulder tracks - good boulder tracks are over into Nansen.
CDR-EVA: Going out of here very slowly.
LMP-EVA: I think station - just about anywhere near the big blocks - -
LMP-EVA: - - would be a good station 2.
CDR-EVA: - - that's where I'm going to put it. We eoul_i try to -
LMP-EVA: Let's see,
CDR-EVA: Yes, that's where we're going to make station 2; right up there.
LMP-EVA: What? Straight ahead?
CDR-EVA: Boy, you're looking right into Nansen. LMP-E_'A Yes. We're right where we wanted to be for sta- tion 2. It looks like a great place. Big blocks. It looks like quite a bit of variety from here. Different colors, anyway. Grays and lighter colored tans.
CDR-EVA: Hey, Jack, I'm going to do a 180 and park the Rover at 045.
LMP-EVA: Those are two good - there's a blue-gray rock and a lighter colored tan rock.
CDR-EVA: See where they can look in here. IJ_IP-EVA How about - Are you going to park it?
CDR-EVA: Right on the other side of this little crater .... heading ...
CC: ... heading.
CDR-EVA: ... 45
CDR-EVA: Hey, Bob ... 045 ... 9.1, 7.6. Are you reading, by the way?
CDR-EVA: Okay. Let me get undone here. Amp hours are 98, 98. Batteries are 90 and 112, and the motor forward left is OFFSCALE LOW, and right is 340. Forward rear is OFFSCAff_ELOW, and right is 240. I expect we've got a bad meter.
CC: Okay. Copy that on the 340. And you want to give me the bearing one more time there, Gene. Ail I got was the distance at 9.1 and the heading - and the range. CDR-_JA Yes, sir. 0.1, 9.i, 7.6. We are right at station 2.
LMP-EVA: Look at Nansen.
CC: Okay. We copy that. When you're at the station, here's a couple of things - -
CDR-EVA: Five minutes - -
CC: - - we'l like for you guys to look at in the over- head. In addition to them. We'd like the TV lens to be dusted, in addition to the regular dusting. That'11 take the lens brush, remember.
LMP-EVA: Can you try to tighten that?
CC: You might check the low gain antella - antenna elevation to make sure it's at 45 degrees. We'd like _ we think you commented on that, and I think you're right now looking at tightening Jack's camera handle.
LMP-EVA: I'11 work on that, Gene. You go ahead with the other - -
CDR-EVA: ... at 045.
CC: And, 17. Jack, we'd like you to check the SEP for us. I suspect we'11 have to turn it off and open the mirrors and dust them.
LMP-EVA: Boy, when you get this picture -
CC: Roger. Thank you. We have TV.
CC: Geno, we do not get a good bearing from you guys.
CDR-EVA: Oh, Manischewitz!
CC: We might also check the LMP's camera. CDR-_¢A Okay. I'11 give it to you again. LMP-_A That's fixed. Oh, you mean for pictures?
CDR-EVA: 071, 071 is the bearing.
CC: Okay. Copy that. I_MP-EVA 142 on LM - 142 on the LMP's camera. The temper- ature is 105.
CC: Roger. Let's turn off the power and the recorder, open the blankets, and dust it.
CDR-EVA: I'11 get it. I've got a lot of dusting to do here, Jack.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Let's see what we've got to do.
CC: And, Jack, I presume when I told you, you turned off the receiver, didn't you? Not just the DSEA? LMfP-EVA That's affirm. I turned off both switches.
CC: That's what I thought. Thank you.
LMP-EVA: Oh, my scoop. My scoop just came off. That's interesting. I'd better check the rake. Vibrated loose, I guess.
CDR-EVA: I'11 get the battery covers.
CC: Okay; and Jack, and we'd like to get an EMU check on you.
CC: And, Jack, we'd like to go to India on the maga- zine for you. Okay. magazine India. My goodness, we'11 never get started. CDR-_fA Man, we are down in a - Look at where we came down, Jack. And that was just one of the hills. Got to go back up and then down some. Hey, thank you for that fix on the fender, by the way, because I'd hate to see what it would look like without it.
CC: Okay. And John suggests that we might just check it momentarily while you're here to make sure it's still holding on good and tight. Both the clamps and the tape.
CDR-EVA: Yes, that's on my list. If it stayed on through that ride it may never come off. Okay. Have you got a lint brush in there, Jack?
CDR-EVA: Well, hold it a minute. I_ve got to get this SEF. Do you want me to brush the SEP, is that what you said? _ia-EVA Yes.
CDR-EVA: Do you want the covers open? LMm-EVA They should be open and dusted.
LMP-EVA: 105 ...
CDR-EVA: 1057 Okay. And it's dusted. T__P-EVA Here's your lint brush; if you need it.
CDR-EVA: Okay, thanmyou. That camera look all right to you? Let me get yours; lean over here, and i'11 get yours. Okay. I'11 get mine, too.
CC: And, Jack, we're suggesting that you're getting a little warm - maybe intermediate might help.
LMP-EVA: Bob, I feel the same way, but I want to get this camera fixed.
LMP-EVA: I mean the film changed.
CDR-EVA: Can I change ...?
CC: Oh, thank you, Geno. It looks much better.
CDR-EVA: How about Any other service I can be?
LMP-EVA: Okay. Okay, Houston, the number of blocks plotted on the map are not nearly enough. In the greater than 1-meter range, there are many hundred blocks on the flank - on the massif flank of Nansen and up around station 2, where we are. There are only one or two blocks on the light mantle side of Nansen. It looks as if the material in the bottom of Nansen is overriding the light mantle materials of the north wall. That's just an impression. There's slightly lighter albedo than the north wall of Nansen.
CC: Okay. Copy that, Jack. Looks fantastic up there. _,_-EVA And I suggest that we - I suggest that we do our raking - That's right. I just told you everything you can see - fairly close to the Rover to get the front of the general population of talus material coming off the massif.
CDR-EVA: Bob, on my mark - I've got everything - hammer, gnomon, film. Okay.
CC: Roger. Copy the mark.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Bob. The blue-gray rocks are breccias. 'lWney'remultilithic, gray matrix - matrix breccias, i£guess. There are fragments in them, but it doesn't look like more than about 10 or 15 percent fragments. Some of the light - the light-colored fragments seem to have fine-grained - very fine- grained dark halos around them. The zap pits do not have white halos, so I suspect they are not crystalline. They might be glass - they might be the vitric or glassy bre¢cias. At least, the one big rock we have here.
LMP-EVA: There's a rough, very rough, foliation in them - that - that and I'm not sure - it's shown by the elongate knobs on the surface. It looks like a fracture foliation of some kind.
CDR-EVA: Jack, that rock has almost got to have come downs don't you think?
LMP-EVA: Oh, no question about it. I'11 bet you - I'11 bet you it's the same as the blue-gray rocks we see up higher. Here's some more blue-gray ones over here.
CDR-EVA: Let's - let's start taking - Oh, yes. Look at the size of some of these light fragments in here. LMiD-EVA Yes, but it still - I don't - It looks like they're dominantly matrix breccias. There - there are light-colored fragments, and they may be crystalline.
CDR-EVA: - Okay - -
LMP-EVA: They are. They're very light colored; they look like the shattered anorthosites. They have white halos - I _hink that's what those fragments are.
CDR-EVA: Jack, let's get a piece of this one right here. IAi-EVA Okay.
CDR-EVA: Biggest one here. LMF-EVA Get her up. This is the blue-gray variety, Houston.
CDR-EVA: I'm going to take that little knob off up there.
LMP-EVA: Okay; well, you can sample - you can work that block over - -
LMP-EVA: We can get several examples. We ought to sample across that layering, actually - that foliation.
CC: Okay; got that.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Houston. I take back what I said about no halos. There are light - not very sharply light - but light halos around zap pits in the matrix. The matrix glass is dark, and it seems to have a greenish cast; but it's very dark.
CDR-EVA: Oh, look at that blue.
CDR-EVA: Look at the white fragments in there.
LMP-EVA: Let me come and help you there.
CDR-EVA: Man, there's some boulder rolling rocks here, Jack.
LMP-EVA: (Laughter) Okay, don't wreck the fillets. There's an overhang we've got to get into.
CC: Copy that. _-EVA 5i_.... - -
CC: Okay; Jack. If you could tear yourself away ia the middle of that sometime to give us an EMU read-out, we'd appreciate it. We haven't gotten that from you yet on the EVA.
LMP-EVA: Okay. I'm - Stand by. Gene's got a rock to go. That's from up higher?
CDR-EVA: That's a little higher. See that shelf up there?
LMP-EVA: Okay. The first rock was from about a - 514 was from a meter above the base of the rocks; 515 is from about a meter and a half.
CDR-EVA: Here, can i get this in your -
LMP-EVA: Okay. You're open. I'11 leave you open for a minute.
CDR-EVA: Well, okay. Just so they don't fall out. Am I in?
LMP-EVA: No. Let me get this other one.
CDR-EVA: Okay. LM2-EVA Okay, go ahead.
CDR-EVA: Let me try from back here.
LMP-EVA: Of course, that's a north/south overhang.
CDR-EVA: Yes. That one?
LMP-EVA: Yes, you're facing right into the east.
CDR-EVA: Yes, yes. I don't know if I can get a piece back here or not.
LMP-EVA: How about right where you ... yes.
CDR-EVA: Right here? I can get that. i_P-EVA Yes, that's good.
CDR-EVA: Oh, beautiful. Hit the gnomon.
CDR-EVA: Well, I'11 re - -
LMP-EVA: It didn't move. It just tilted it. This it?
CDR-EVA: Yes, that's it right there. _MP-EVA Let me set my working tool down here.
CDR-EVA: Got a hag?
LMP-EVA: Coming right up. Boy, that dust. Once you get it on there, you might as well forget it. I_P-EVA 494. 494 is from a half a meter above the base of the rock.
CC: Understand, 0.5 meters up.
LMP-EVA: And these are samples from across the layering - or the - - These are samples from - across the - foliation. I missed that, Bob.
CC: Okay. Copy that now.
LMP-EVA: What do you think? Can you get that - can you get that one up there?
CDR-EVA: Yes. I might either get that or this other piece up here. IJ4P-EVA Well, don't take any chances.
CDR-EVA: Yes, I'm not going to. How about this one? Here's a whole big piece.
LMP-EVA: Okay. That's a good - good representative fragment. Can you get it?
CDR-EVA: I can't reach you without my camera hitting.
LMP-EVA: That's a football-size fragment. Okay, this next sample - Can you get a bag out, and we'11 try to put it around it. Around the end. Bob, it's highly variable. This is a light matrix breccia; whereas the other three fragments were dark-matrix or dark- fragment breccias. The big rock is a light-matrix breccia with dark fragments, and it's the one that has the halos around the - around the light frag- ments. And that's in 495, barely. It's not even in it. It's just - 495 is wrapped around it.
CDR-EVA: It's not going to stay.
CDR-EVA: No. Well -
LMP-EVA: It's a football-size fragmental rock. Let me - Mhy don't you just stuff it. See if you can stuff it in there with that - with the bag down - -
CDR-EVA: Yes, it'11 - We'11 be able to identify it when we get - 495 when we get back. Okay, it'11 stay.
LMP-EVA: Is the bag on it now?
CDR-EVA: Well, yes, - it's ...
CC: Okay; we copy that, Gene. And do you guys see any tracks coming down to these boulders? Do have any feeling that these - you can place these thav way?
LMP-EVA: Bob, _nfortunately, no. The main tracks are out into Nansen, and we - I don't think we can get over there.
CC: Okay; that's those biggies that we see on the left, huh?
LMP-EVA: But the visual resi - Yes. Coming up, I was looking; and there are no obvious tracks coming down here.
LMP-EVA: Here, I'11 get it. Wait a minute; that gnomon is probably not - Well, that's right; you got stereo earlier.
CDR-EVA: Yes, I reset it. LMP-E_A The gnomon was moved a little between the samples.
LMP-EVA: Do you need to take a vertical pan?
CDR-EVA: Yes, I've gotten it all. I'm getting it all.
LMP-EVA: You getting the flight line? I'11 get a flight line this way. Postsample, flight line.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Bob. I'm on frame count 42.
CC: Copy, 42.
LMP-EVA: Okay. I got flight line on the north/south trend; Gene got east/west.
CDR-EVA: You going to get that sample under there? LMA°-EVA Yes, we got to get the soil.
CDR-EVA: There may be an overhang. And look at that frag - that rack - rock is fragmented; let's see, but it's southeast/northwest. east - it's There's a split.
LMP-EVA: Yes, that one right over there is okay. You want to get - hey, did you want to get this?
CDR-EVA: Yes, I'11 get that. LMI°-EVA This fillet?
CDR-EVA: You got it? 94A/31 Tape
CC: And, 17--
LMP-EVA: This is a fillet from underneath the rock.
CC: Roger. And an update on the rake samples when you get around to it. We'd like to get one up on the massif slope as much as you can, if you can get over to it. And then the second one down near the Rover.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Bob. This fillet is up underneath an over- hang. I got it from about -
CDR-EVA: I got to get uphill from you.
LMP-EVA: It's about - -
LMP-EVA: - - oh, a third of a meter under an overhand. And it's the upper 3 centimeters of soil.
CDR-EVA: And it's bag 496.
LMP-EVA: Now let me get one out away from the overhand a little bit.
CDR-EVA: - Okay.
CC: Okay. You think that's permanent shadow?
LMP-EVA: And a one away from - - No.
CDR-EVA: No. It's facing east.
CC: Okay. LMI°-EVA Okay. And a sample down to a depth of about 5 centimeters, about two-thirds of a meter from the - boulder- the south side - is in 497.
LMP-EVA: Now let me - let me get a skim sample, Geno.
CDR-EVA: Okay. I got to take a set of pictures after that, by the way. Show where they are.
LMP-EVA: I can piece them into my flight line stereo.
CDR-EVA: Okay. They were in both of the before pict_ares on those rocks.
LMP-EVA: Okay; about a centimeter deep - skim.
CDR-EVA: Careful. You're in a hole. Can you - you better come out. LMP-EV& Yes.
CDR-EVA: Yes. Boy, that's hard on the hand even in 1/6 g.
CDR-EVA: And that was - - LMm-EVA Okay.
CDR-EVA: And I didn't park that Rover in a very good spot for them to watch what's going on, I guess; but that was the heading.
LMP-EVA: Oh, shoot. They're missing all of it.
CDR-EVA: We didn't work in the right spot; that's all.
CC: Every now and then we get a peek at you guys. But only every now and then.
CDR-EVA: Sorry, Bob. LMm-EVA 0h, - oh wait a minute.
CDR-EVA: You know, that's the way it happens
CC: Give sample bag number, please.
CDR-EVA: Okay. It's back on. 94A/33 Tape
LMP-EVA: Okays Bob. I missed that. I didn't give it to you; but I think - well the next bag I take out, you can check the num- Well, wait a minute, I'11 do it for you.
CC: No. That's okay. I suspect it's 498.
LMP-EVA: I'm almost positive it was 498.
CC: Okay. We '11 put that down.
LMP-EVA: Yes, I did, too.
CC: Okay. I copy that. LMI°-EVA And I got a couple pictures down-Sun to show that texture.
CC: Okay. And one thing we'd like to do would be to sample a variety of blocks, in terms of looking at differences in the blocks - From block to block. LML°_-EVA Roger. We're going to do that. We're going after a gray - I mean a lighter-colored block, now. Are you going up there?
CC: Okay; and if you're going up the massif, why don't we try and get the rake sample up there now. when you finish these rocks.
CDR-EVA: Hey, Jack - Jack, don't come up here unless you bring the rake. It's a long trip. No sense coming up here twice. I can go get this sample. I'd get the rake, if I were you. Don't walk back up twice.