Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
CDR: Now, the dust, as such, and I'm sorry; I Just didn't observe - I wasn't really standing in a position to observe any track that the one rock made that I rolled down. The other rock that I threw down there was so small that it didn't go very far anyhow. Now, du_ + flew and the rocks ! bounded both and rolled d£pel?ding on how far along it was going down the side of the crater. But it was not obvious to me that it was making any tracks. Now, had you stood back and looked at it from a different Sun angle, I feel that maybe you would for a while. Just like, it was vei_ obvious when we looked out o_r window where ·_e had been walking around. We could see for great distances where our footsteps went.
CC: '_he seismologists are trying to get some feeling for whether or not you thought there was a lot of rock rolling that might be causing the signals that they see.
CDR: If there was, it was not evident to us. Most of the rocks that we saw on the sides of craters all had dust around the bottom of them an4 they - 3ong, it didn't look like they had moved for a long period of time and most of them looked like they were partially buried the majority of them looked that way. 953 P%ge
LMP: That's right. Not only that, we didn't see any that looked like they thought they were going to roll down in the near future, either.
CC: Roger. Hey, listen. When you pulled out the core tube, did the holes collapse or did they stay there?
CDR: That's a good question. We didn't really look down it, did we, Al?
CDR: I didn't say that right; I was talking to Pete.
LMP: The tubes themselves stayed pretty doggoned un- collapsed except for the top i or 2 inches. TrAe minute you draw out the core tube, the top i inch, let's say not 2 - 1 inch or so would kind of crumble off and some parts would fall down in, but the sides were still relatively vertical. It's the same thing that happened in the trenches. When Pete would dig the trenches, the sides would be almost 90 degrees, except every time you'd tap the sides, let's say accidentally with his shovel, then that part would get knocked off, but the part that would remain, would still remain 90 de- grees. As long as you didn't touch it, it see_ed
CDR: That reminds me of another thing. That pulsed my memory. Again, this is au impression, but it seemed to me that there were angles greater than g0 degrees in the trenches, implying layering; and, although there wasn't any difference in color, it seems to me that that would sort of imply that there was some layering there and maybe this ma- terial is built up over a different tfme frames. If that's really true, you'11 see that in the photographs.
CC: Very good. Hey, listen, when you deployed the solar wind experiment, did that staff go down Into the ground far enough to let the bottom of the foil contact the ._urface? And when you rolled it back up, did all of the foil have difficulty in rolling up or is some of the top section of that roll up smoothly? Do you remember?
LMP: Yes. The answer to the first question is, it didn't go all the way down until it touched the soil. It would have, I th_nk, if we could have pushed it. I pushed on it as hard as I could · and then I kind ·of pushed on it hard enough to Page 954- I lift my feet off the ground, and it went do_n that far which was a foot or so. I can't recall, but I did take a picture of it, and you'11 be easily - I mean, you'11 be able to easily deter- mine how far it went and that was all the force I could put on it. The answer to the second ques- tion is, when it started to roll up, it rolled up about a foot and a half and then it didn't want to roll up any more. It wanted to crinkle. It Just didn't want to roll. Okay, so, I pulled it down and rolled it up; pulled it down and rolled it up; and about the fifth rollup, that crinkle area tore in a longitudinal crack. It Just all of a sudden cracked. And I said, "Oh, oh, things are goin 6 to get a little difficult here." So, I stretched it out again; I was pretty tender with it all the time; I wasn't being clumsy about it because I had some experience with these foils under vacuum conditions in the chamber, that they get awful tender, and all the time I was being as careful as I could. So I started to roll it back up again, and it started to tear some more so I realized that time that it was not going to roll up. So, what I did was let it go - let the roller what I tried to do is take - and I took the roller off the staff and held on the roller and I tried to hold one end - hold the roller and Just roll it up, using the sides.
CC: Apollo 12, we're switching antennas again.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. Do you read me?
CC: We lost another antenna switehover. Al, you were Just saying, you held one end of the roller and were rolling the foil back up when we lost you.
LMP: Okay. Then, I rolled it up the best I could _,ith my fingers on the edge, realizing that I was going to get some lunar dirt in it, but there wasn't any other way to solve the problem. I tried to be clean with it, but I am sure there is going to be some dirt on it. I hope the experimenters can brush the dirt off, bake it off, or do what- ever they - when they take out the molecules. } 127/12 Tape s Page 955 So, maybe they can Just dust it off, dast the thing off; and, hopefully, there won't be any rush. Now, when they find it - when I finally took it back to the rock box to put it in the 5eflon bag, Pete, we looked at the bag and we looked at the roller; and by my technique of rolling it, the roller was bigger than the bag. So, I took _ hands and Just crushed the foil on the omtslde, you know, Just squeezed it together and made it big - small enough to fit into the bag we had put in. So that outside layer has a lot of dirt from my hands on it, but inside it, it ought to be relatively clean, particularly on the side nearest the hinge point. Because I tried to never touch there.
CC: Roger. That sounds good, Al. I'm sure the data is still good on it and they wanted to plan their procedures in the LRL. Listen, that's all the questions we had for you unless there's some other things that come to mind.
LMP: Okay. Let me throw one at you so I don't for- it. get
CC: C_._v.
LMP: You know, we had some trouble with those Teflon bags. We had some trouble with those Teflon b'%u overnight on the lunar surface. They cracked an.' Just didn't act right. Pete reported it, and I'm sure it's documented. I got to thinking may- be that's what happened to that aluminum foil roll. The tape that holds the foil together and everything else; I don't know what it is. But if it's Teflon tape or something like it, maybe that's what is giving us our problem. It Just doesn't want to roll up after a certain period of time exposed either to a vacuum or cold or some- else. thing I know it Just doesn't work like it does when we are training in the atmosphere with a new roll.
CC: Roger. Hey_ listen, they've Just handed me two more questions.
LMP: Hey, one - one - -
CC: Go ahead. P_ge 956
LMP: Let me say one other thing about that that also confirms it. I hadn't thought about it either. Remember when - when the first day, it was just hanging out there like an old window shade. Okay, the second - when we got up the second morning, we looked out there, and I called back and said, "Look, Pete and I both think that this thing has been wrapped around the pole." When I got out there, it hadn't been; but it had taken a defi- nite set. The metal wasn't - the metal wasn't set as it had been before, like a window shade. It sort of had a catty-cornered set in it, not a crease, but sort of a hill running catty- cornered across it at about half the height of the diameter of the staff. So, maybe that alu- vacuum, minum foil under or whatever She tape is, takes a set, it Just doesn't want to roll up be- cause the set is stronger than the spring tension.
CC: That certainly could be. Hey, listen, did you take any closeup stereopictures outside of the disturbed area and, if so, where?
LMP: We took closeup - Ob, I know what you mean. You mean closeups stereocamera? )
CC: Yes, we did. I took some near - I took some near the engine, as I talked about, then I walked out and took some of the bottom of some little craters that we had not. walked in. Then, I took some of Pete's footsteps, three or four of those. Then, I went out into a couple of areas that we hadn't been and took some photographs. But we were not able, because of the time, to really do as _ny pictures as we wanted and do as many And different things. that's Just - Sit,ce that was the last experiment, that was one that's Just sort of suffered, and so I - %'e'11 Just have to weren't see what we get out of that one. We - I wasn't particularly satisfied with the way it vas at the end, but we'11 Just have to see whgt happens.
CC: Roger. Listen, that's all our questions. !_t me mention a couple of things that I thirk you'11 find interesting. You were concerned about the dust on the ALSEP experiments. The heatup thermal curves are going Just exactly along the predicted lines. So, apparently you guys did Just a great Job on working in those dusty conditions, because there appear to be no thermal problems or. that thing. I guess you've already heard the - some sent down the lunar module, the whole mare, or at least that area, vibrated like a plate for some 35 minutes, and the scientists are really delighted in the kind of data that they're gettinz out of that. They haven't figured out what it means yet, but they're sure interested in the data.
LMP: Say, we've been wondering something up here. Did I24impacted you happen to figure out why the so _ar from the seismic experiment as it did?
CC: Yes. We had to turn that off from the ground, and there was a slight overburn in getting the signals up there to turn off the computer, and the slight overburn dropped it in a little further east than we had programed it.
LMP: Okay. We were trying to psych that out up here. thank Okay, you.
CC: Listen, we have a couple of final scores for you: Michigan, 2_, and Ohio State, 12; Missouri, 69, Kansas, 21.
LMP: Sounds good. How about giving our families a call in the next 10 minutes and see what's going on?
CC: Roger. I tried a few minutes ago and your wives -
LMP: I guess it's time ...
CC: I couldn't catch your wives home a few minutes ago. I'11 give them a try agmin, thanks.
LMP: Okay. Thanks, Don.
CC: There's a luncheon going on over in your neighbor- hood someplace.
CC: Oh, that's right.
CC: Roger. I Just talked to your ladies. Pete, Jane said that Christopher got a bike for his birthday; and, within an hour after he got it, it had a small accident. He didn't have any problems, but the bike is a little worse for wear. He's a little disturbed over that. Also, Peter went with the Allens up to Elkin's Lake deer hunting. They're supposed to be back to- morrow afternoon; so, of course, now, we have no report on his prowess as hunter and she was par- ticularly delighted with the way the flight's going. She says to really congratulate you on a good flight, and they're looking for you back home.
CDR: Roger. Thank you, Don.
CC: Dick, talked to Barbara -
CDR: Dick's not up right now. Why don't you talk to Al?
CC: Okay. Al, talked to Sue. She -
CDR: Oh, wait a minute. He's not - Al - Don, Al's not on it either. Wait a second; I got to get him up on the COMM. We'le J_t chlorinating water and doing a few things here.
CDR: He'11 give you call in a minute.
LMP: Go ahead, Don.
CC: Roger. Dick, I talked to Barbara.
LMP: No, this is Al.
CC: Oh, okay. Let's hold off on this. We're about to switch antennas. I'11 be back with yoa in a minute.
CC: -GO ahead. 127/16 Tape Fage 959
CC: Okay, Al, Sue reports that they had a real nice luncheon. She went to that this afternocn; the kids, of course are home from school, and tel :y's a real nice day here in Houston, so they've been having fun around the house, and the only other thing is that they're really getting anxious for Monday, and get you guys back down here on the Earth.
LMP: Thank you, Don.
CDR: We feel the same way, believe me.
CC: Roger. Is Dick around there yet?
CDR: Yes, Dick's up.
CC: Okay, Barbara -
CDR: He's up. Go ahead.
CC: Roger. Barbara reports Uncle Herb has repaired all the bicycles snd so the kids are really de- lighted with that. She also reported that the luncheon went off very nicely. Also, Mom and Dad have gone up with Aunt Mary to restock the larders around the house and get all the food they need in the house. Barbara reports the children have b( n particularly good today, and she is very happy over that, obviously, and they are happy about the flight and really are looking forward to splashdown.
CMP: Well, sounds like a normal day around the Gordon household. Thank you, Don.
CC: 2oger. Listen, we've got some final ball scores for you: Cornell, 28, over Penn, l_; Penn State over Pittsburg, 27 to 7; Pete, Princeton took Dartmouth, 35 to 7; Purdue, h4, Indiana, 21; Notre Dame took the Air Force, 13 to 6; cad a third quarter score, Tennessee, 2h, and Kentucky, lb.
CDR: Very goo_. Let me give you the presleep check- list and _rew status report i_ as follows: CDR had one decongestant, CMP had one, and A1 had a sleeping pill last night. That's about that - We've cycled the fans, chlorinated the water. The valves are all at the proper positions. You have got the E-memory dump and the BAT C is 37.0; PYRO BAT A, 37.0; PYRO BAT B is 37.0; and we are on MAIN A on the dc indicator. And that is about it.
CC: Very good. Hey, listen. A preliminary report on the antenna test shows that the problem is asso- ciated with heating. We want to run another test tomorrow in which we hope to pin down exactly which component of the electronics is experi- encing that heating. We will brief you on this in the morning- but it won't involve much for the crew, mostly Just orienting thP thing and letting it heat up and making couple of switch changes; but this probably means that we may slide the second P23 back about an hour; but we will brief you on that change and what the test consists of first thing in the morning.
CDR: Okay, and I guess the other question is, do they still plan to do the TV the way we talked about it before the flight?
CC: Stand by a second.
CDR: We don't need the answer to it right now. Just between now and tomorrow sometime.
CC: Pete. The plans are to go ahead as briefed be- fore the flight. Very good.
CC: You gu_s got anything else for us before you go beddy-by.
CDR: Don't think so.
CC: Well, have a pleasant night's sleep and we will see you in the morning then. 127/18 Tape Page961
CDR: The only thing that's in short supply up here right now is tape recorder batteries. We are on MAX conserve on that right now, so we can squeeze the last drop of music out of them.
LMP: Might tell the skipper of that ship to put it right on the center of the target because Dick Gordon is going to be driving it right to that point.
CC: Very good. Hey, listen, if you run out of tape music, have r_e give you some of that "dum de duradura"stuff.
CDR: You mean "ticky poo" and all that Jazz?
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. The surgeon was wondering if anybody was going to be hooked up on bioharness tonight.
CDR: We prefer not to. I don't have any on and the other two guys - It is Just a pain in the neck getting into the bag with all that big cable hooked up.
CDR: You don't need it for anything, do you?
CMP: Let me ask this question. How about letting us all Just completely unplug and not even get on the radio? If you want us for anything, use the CREW ALERT and we will have the amplifier on the MASTEH ALARM and it works fine. What do you think about that?
CC: The surgeon will sleep as good as you do with no BIOMED to watch.
CDR: That's great. That's good. He may be wor - in- terested in the fact that we are taking these decongestants, but this spacecraft is so loaded with dust, I can't believe it. We got to clean the screens about every 2 hours. What we brought back from the L_{must have been the world's record for dust, and we have Just been having one whale of a time getting this thing clean. I thought it would be cleaned in a matter of 8 to 12 hours, but we have been cleaning screens about 2 or 3 hours apart since we came back from the lunar surface, and we are still getting junk off of them.
CC: Roger. All the medical types -
CDR: Much more so than going out.
CC: The surgeons down here are reviewing their treatment for silicosis so we will be prepared for you.
CDR: What in heaven's name is that?
CC: That is a miner's disease from breathing coal dl_t.
CDR: There you go. Okay. I am with you.
CC: Hey, we are going to send up a crew alarm here for you in Just a second - a CREW _LMRT, excuse me, to check out the system.
CDR: Okay. Wait until we get the power on; we were Just rigging the CREW ALARM new.
CC: Tell us when you are ready.
CDR: We are ready.
CDR: It works Just fine. Did you hear it? ,1ready.
CC: Yes. We heard it do_:_here. Fine, We'11 rest in comfort.
CDR: Okay. So will we. Nighty-night.
CC: Nighty night.
CDR: Hey, Don. Tell Paul Weitz to have a lively ni_-ht tonight, will you?
CC: Will do. APOLLO 12 AIR-TO-GROUND VOICE TRANSCRIPTION Tapes 128-132/1 REST PERIOD - NO COMMUNICATIONS 133/1 Ta_e Page 96h
CDR: "The Yankee Clipper, Apollo 12" (chorus)
CDR: Good morning, guys.
CC: Hello, Apollo 12; Houston. Over.
CC: Music - "Apollo 12" (chorus)
CMP: The weather is clear up here.
LMP: It's sunny in Bombay.
CDR: Rainy in London.
LMP: Smoggy in L.A. --
CMP: Snowing in Washington, D.C.
CDR: Music "The Yankee Clipper, Apollo 12" by chorus
CDR: Raining in Chicago. Good morning.
CC: Good morning 12.
CDR: Don't tell me we've got Paul on the horn.
CC: Hey, what are you guys doing? You were supposed to let us sleep as long as we wanted this morning.
CDR: We were supposed to let you sleep as long as you wanted to sleep this morning ... - Well, we woke up a up _ little bit early.
UNKNOWN: We'11 go ahead and eat now and pick up the 02 fuel cell purge, the waste water, and all that stuff on time.
CC: Okay. That's the first update to your flight plan is to scratch the 02 fuel cell purge and the waste water dump. 133/2 Tape Pa_e 965 We
CDR: Scratch them, huh? Okay. Very well. will.
CDR: We got a message we'd like you to send for us.
CC: Ail right. Go ahead.
CDR: Ail right. It's to Rear Admiral Davis, Recovery Forces, U.S.S. Hornet. "Dear Red Dog, Apollo 12 with three tail hookers expect recovery ship to make its PIM as we have energy for only one pass. Signed Pete, Dick, and Al."
CC: Okay, Pete. You're - you're breaking up a little bit. I'11 ask you to repeat _n a couple of min- utes. So, we'11 tape it here and then I'11 get it off of that.
CC: !2, Houston. Read your message again.
CDR: Okay. It's to Rear Admiral Davis, Recovery Forces, U.S.S. Hornet. "Dear Red Dog, Apollo 12 with three tail hookers expect recovery ship to make its P1L_as we have energy for only one pass. Signed, Dick, Pete, and Al." Houston.
CC: 12, You're fading in and out. Say again all after PLM.
CDR: "As we have energy for only une pass."
CDR: "Signed Pete, Dick, and Al."
CC: Copy, Pete.
CDR: Very good. Thank you.
CC: How's - How's the chow in the wardroom this morn- ing?
CDR: Very good. We're still eating it.
CC: Who's messcooking this morning?
CDR: Oh, we're all taking a little turn at it. This is one of the few of them, though, that you can all float above the table instead of setting the chairs beside it. That makes it pretty nice. up You can Just move and down and make your selection.
CDR: We - Houston, we Just got our first glimpse of you this morning, and there's not very much of you out t_ere.
CC: Roger. Understand. Yes, I'm looking at it in the flight plan. There s_lre isn't, is there?
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. Your message is on the way and I got some bail scores if Dick's listening.
CDR: Yes. He's listening. Go ahead. run
CC: Okay. We're still trying to down the Washington - Washington State results, Dick. In the top ten, Purdue beat Indiana, 44 to 21. As in you got the score last night, I see the log, Michigan beat Ohio State, 24 to 12. And last night USC beat UCLA, 14 to 12, so it will Michigan be and USC in the Rose Bowl. Penn State beat Syracuse - Penn State begat wit+?burgh, 27 to 7; Stanford b_t CAL, 29 to 28; Tennessee over Kentucky, 31 to 26; Missouri layed it on Kansas, 69 to 21; TCU beat Rice, 21 to 17; and Houston beat Wyoming, 44 to 21.
CMP: It sounds like they had some wild bailgames down there yesterday.
CC: Yes. They sure did. Hey, for information, how is - how's the gas in your water? Is it ail right?
CMP: Well, the cold water is really quite good. it's been like that all along. And we're still getting a little bit of - still getting a little gas out of our hot water at the crew preparation station. Other than that, it's pretty good. We really can't complain about it. It's Just - seems to us to be Just as good with or without the gas cartridge separators on.
CC: Okay. Thank you, Dick. That's the data point cabin we were looking for. And how's your TEMP working using the manual mixing?
CMP: We didn't touch it last night. The glycol evap TEMP was holding about 55, 56 and we were fairly comfortable last night.
CC: Roger. Very good.
CMP: We want those Saints and Oilers to win today now.
CDR: Paul, we are beginning to pick up quite a bit of moisture inside the spacecraft on the hatch struc- ture, both the tunnel hatch and the main hatch, ,, Tape 134/2 and on the coves at the rendezvous window and down on the bottom bulkhead below the LC bag, but that was to be expected when we're down light.
CC: Roger. Understand, Pete. Is the water all staying in place or is it drifting around at all?
CDR: Oh, no. It all stays in place and we're Just getting ready. We wiped her down last night and we'11 wipe her down again this morning. It's not that bad.
CDR: I guess all that f'_elaboard and the LM acts as a reflector and heat sink and we didn't have any going out, of course, and now that we're so light and empty; why, I think we've got - Fueled down pretty gcod.
CMP: What's the look at - MCC 6 or 7 right now?
CC: Hello, 12; Houston. At a little less than 140 000 miles out on the glide slope, you're looking pretty good. You're on speed - mid- course 6. Right now, we're looking on the order of 0.2 of a foot a second. If 6 is not per- formed, 7 looks like about 0.7 of a foot per second.
CMP: Okay. So what you're telling me is that we probably won't do 6 and we might tweak up on 7, huh?
CC: That's the way it looks.
CC: cc Go ahead,12.
UNKNOWN: Our crew status report: all three of us got 9 hours sleep last night. PRD readings, across the hoard, 11029, 11028, 04030.
CC: Roger. Copy, Dick. Pete, how's that patch on your skin where that sensor was bothering you doing?
CDR: I have - a rash where every sensor was and they're all doing okay. I was doing what the guys said in Houston, that skin cream, but they're not bothering me or anything, but every one of them - and, and I don't understand that because I've worn them for this le_lth of time before and never had any trouble. But apparently some- thing reacted this time; maybe they changed the type of paste they use or something.
CC: Roger. Thank you, Pete. And, when you've finished eating there and have the opportunity, I've got some updates - got your cons-m_bles update and some flight plan items for you.
CC: Okay. Your consumables are 208 hours; your total RCS is 29.2; reading Alfa through Delta; 30.8, 28.9, 26.9, 30.1; your hydrogen stands at 29 percent in each tank; your oxygen is 33 and 35. Copying
CDR: Okay. all that.
CC: Okay. Now in your flight plan, at 210 hours and 30 minutes. Okay. Commence a charge on battery Alfa. When you terminate battery Alfa, we'11 start a charge on battery Bravo and '._e'11 give you a call on that.
CC: Okay. Now at 213 hours.
CC: Ail right. As requested yesterday, we've g_t new attitudes for your optics CAL and your P23. At 213 hours, your optics CAL attitude wil' be 089, 33h, and 0. The star will be number 2h. Your P23 attitude, 090, 32_, and 327. _ er. I J
CDR: Roger. Copied the optics calibration on star 24. The new angles are 089, 334, and 0; and the VERB 49 maneuver for P23 attitude, 329, initially, is 090, 327.
CC: That's affirmative; and now, at P14 hours, Me're antenna going to slip another high gain test at you.
CC: Okay. So, we'11 delete in your flight plan, start PTC; we'11 go the antenna test attitude 069. which is 050, pitch is 0, yaw is The high angles gain are pitch, minus 19; yaw, 193; use half a degree deadband. The test will last approximately 4 hours.
CDR: Okay. 214, scratch the PTC, high gain antenna test. In a half a degree deadband, angles are antenna angles, 19, 050, 0, 069; high gain minus 193; the test lasts for 4 hours and you'11 prob- correct us ably through that in real time, I suspect. Is that correct ?.
CC: Okay, 12. And depending on when this high gain antenna test is complete, which I say is esti- mated somewhere in the order of 4 hours - When it's complete, you'11 then pick up your P23 which is presently scheduled at 217 hours in the flight plan. And I got the angles _hen you're ready.
CC: Okay. I'11 shoot it right ahead, here. Those angles and 44e stars are all the same as the one I read you for 214 hours, Dick.
UNKNOWN: CMP Okay. I suspected as much. Thank you.
CC: Roger. And the same thing at 220 hours.
CMP: Okay. And
CC: if you're unable to use any of the stars during your P23's, Just give us a growl and we've got some alternate stars picked out for you to use. 134/5 Tape %
CMP: Okay. Thank y_u. How did those P23's go yester- day? Doing you\any good !n the back row?
CC: Stand by, and I'11 find out for you.
CC: 12, Houston. It was excellent data, Dick; best we've had yet.
CC: Hello, 12; Houston. If you'11 give us ACCEPT, we'11 send up your state vector.
CMP: Okay. Paul, I got a question on that.
CC: C-oahead.
CMP: The other state vectors in there now from the - We have tilestate vectors in there now from the P23's yesterday, and the old descent state vector in the LM slot. Are they going to try and preserve the P23 stuff or Just go right over it? Can you answer that for me?
CC: Okay. I'11 get an answer for you, Dick.
CC: C-oahead, 32.
UNKNOWN: You ought to get started to working down there so we can schedule the water pumps to take care of midcourses.
CC: Okay. We'11 turn them to.
CC: Hello, 12; Houston. We can do it to preserve your P23 state vectors, Dick; and we can keep it in either slot you want.
CMP: Well, it doesn't differenc_ - however you like. You handle it from the ground; le_ me put it that way.
CC: Yes. Okay, we'11 do that. They're working the procedures now; it's going to take a little longer for th_$ uplird;- about 5, 6 minutes.
CMP: Okay. WelL, call us when you're ready.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. We're ready to uplink into the LM slot, Dick, and you can keep your P23 vector in the CSM slot.
CMP: Very good. Go ahead.
CC: It's on the wa,v.
CC: Oh, it's not on the way, it'11 be a minute while we're switching antennas.
CC: 12, Houston. Now it's on its way.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. You guys want some 7:_rning news ?
CDR: Yes, sir. Send up the morning news.
CC: Okay. First off, among the hundreds of sugges- tions received by NASA on how to apaJr - how to repair the Apollo 12 lunar camera was one calling for the use of a woman's hairpin. I didn't think don't know why you guys of that. From Washington, the - - wom-n.
CDR: (Laughter) We didn't have the
CC: (Laughter) I'11 go on (laughter). From Wash- ington, the Senate - -
CDR: That stopped you cold, didn't it?
CC: Huh?
CDR: We were looking, but we couldn't find one.
CC: Okay. From Washington, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee under Senator F_lbright has decided to go ahead with a series of hearings next month to help the administration determine Just what is the wisest future procedure for ending the Vietnam war. Hearings will be con- fined to testimony on nine bills and resolutions introduced by both hawks and doves. In SaSgon, guerrilla troops, I guess they're VC's, _._busncd Americ_l troops for the fourth time this week, killing two GI's and wounding seven. Deputy Defense Secretary David Packard said that he's very concerned about our casualties and _cknow- ledges U.S. commanders are sending out smaller units on sweeps. In Los Angeles at the regional headquarters of the Alcoholism Council, a tele- phone installer exchanging phones answered a routine call from a council staffmember. He pleaded with the guy, "You'd better get over here quickly, I've taken two calls and one sounded pretty desperate. I can't talk to you any longer, there's another call coming in." Out of Washington comes word that the new 40G-passenger Jetliner will not bring Jl]m_O immediate fare cuts until 197h and beyond, according to a CAB staff study. The report cited two factors, the high cost of introducing the new airplane and the initial gap between the great number of seats and the amount of passenger traffic available. And from London comes word that a 21-year-old man crippled by polio when he was two will walk across the United States next summer to raise money for charity. He did this in Great Britian last year and raised $_800 by w_lking the length crutches. of l_ritian on Al, your ALSEP news - Not a whole lot to report this morning. The performance of the central station continues to be normal. The passive seismic is - They're trying to stop some long-period Z-axis oscilla- tion. LSM is operattn8 satisfactorily, as is the sola._wind. The SiDE is still - got the high voltages off continuing to operate in the out-gas mode. And that's about it from here this morning.
CDR: Roger. Thank you. Hey, we can entertain you with a little saucy ... fandango.
CC: Okay. Go ahead. We got yo,' commercial this morning.
CDR: Speedy Al's gone into the sleep mode to pass time; that's all he does these days is sleep. He's over in the corner sleeping nOM.
CC: Well, who's winding the victrola? It sounds like it's having a hard time running there.
CDR: Listen, we're getting low on BAT power. 134/8 Tape Page 974 .,
CDR: That's our launch tape. J
CC: Hey, Pete. Hold the mike a little closer. We're not reading it very well. Music - "Freight Train" by Peter, Paul, and Mary.
CC: There you go.
CDR: Hey, Paul. We dedicate that song to Saturn 507.
CC: Okay. Duly noted.
CDR: And the high tenor was sung by A1 Bean.
CC: Yes. I was going to say, I thought you said he was sleeping.
CDR: He gets up every once in a while.
CMP: Okay, Paul. I have a question on this EMS entry test. We're on ground test pattern number 2 and I assume you want it run right on that one, and the same for the flight test patterns for entry?
CC: Okay. Stand by. Also, will you confirm your canister lithium hydroxide change?
CMP: That's been done.
CC: 12, Houston. That's affirm, Dick. Run it on test pattern number 2. AIR-TO-GROUND VOICE TRANSCRIPTION 135/1 Tape
CMP: Okay. We're ready to do that now.
CC: Roger. Houston,
CMP: 12.
CMP: The _S checked out satisfactorily.
CC: Roger. Th_nk you, Dick.
CC: Hello, 12; Houston, Cliff Charlesworth and his Green Te_, arc going off for the last time. They said s_:y "Hey" and they'11 see you in Houston,
CDR: _ery good. We appreciate the fine descent.
CDR: Sure do. It was magnificent.
CC: They copied that.
CDR: Yes. I was going to say, why don't you save that flight controller_' blast until after the eleventh of December? I'd sure like to be th=re.
CC: Okay. That's a promise.
CDR: Houston, you got those torquing angles?
CC: Roger. BAT A.
CDR: Morning, Ed.
CC: Morning, crew.
CC: 12, Houston. Oo ahead.
CDR: In case you're watching the DSKY, it's a little OJT for Al, and we won't torque.
CC: Hello, Apollo 12; Houston.
CC: Say, 12, we've got a couple of points we'd like to talk over if you would - a few things on magazines, storage, and P23's. Have you got about 10 or 15 minutes?
CC: Okay. First of all, which magazine was used to photograph Fra Mauro on the I24 activation day?
CDR: Okay. Wait 1.
CC: And our second question related to that was - is - was this same magazine - Was this the same mag- azine which failed during the bootstrap photography?
CDR: No. No, that - That we can answer. All of the magazines are marked what they are, and Dick doesn't remember offhand now which magazine he had Fra Mauro on during LM activation, but he's looking. Let's see. Maybe we have it in the flight plan.
CC: We've got some folks 9own here who are pretty interested in Fra Mauro.
CDR: The Fra Mauro troops are in on Sunday, huh?
CC: They have no time limits.
CDR: Who do you got down there? Captain Shs.ky?
CC: No, he's not down here now, but we got other folks pursuing it for him. minute
CDR: Oh, I see. We'11 get it for you in Just a ·.., we got to do a little digging.
CC: Okay. Thank you, Pete.
CDR: It's in magazine S.
CC: Magazine F. Thank you.
UNKNOWN: the one - that's the one that called out for it, and that - that is the one that opaned up on us.
CC: Okay. Understand. Magazine Foxtrot, and that is the one that opened up?
CDR: No. It was Sugar, Sugar.
CDR: This magazine's Sugar, Sierra. Mauro
CC: Okay. Understand. Fra is on Foxtrot and Sugar is the one that opened?
CC: Other way around?
CDR: They're all on Sugar. They're all on Sugar, and Sugar is the magazine that opened up.
CDR: Now, we got Fra Mauro and Descartes and Lalande with 500 millimeter on another magazine_ also. That was the second trip around.
CDR: So somewhere along in there we'11 get it. And I'm not - I'm not sure that all of magazine Sugar is ruined, by any means, but we just didn't want to take any chances. mig_:t
CC: Okay, 12. One question which you have to put a little thought in, and that is: What deviations from the entry stowage checklist had to be made in terms of pounds and location from - The folks down here, for reentry purposes, would like to figure that out.
CDR: Okay. We - we have stowed everything, as far as the boxes go, according to the flight plan. And 136/3 Tape .) let me mention a couple of boxes to you that have some gear in them that's not l_sted.
CDR: In A-8, in the single garment LCG and ... kit, we have all that junk that we brought back from the LM. And now, what my suggestion is on the TV camera off the Surveyor and the extra rocks is to tie up in front of the L-shaped bag on the floor in front of A-_ and A-5 rather than on the top of A-1 as it calls out in the flight plan.
CC: Okay, Pete. Do you have any sort of an estimate?
CDR: And if you all could - -
CC: Do you have an estimate of the number of pounds for those rocks?
CDR: The rocks probably weigh 15 pounds.
CDR: What they are is four large rocks, h
CC: Those are the grapefruits?
CDR: Yes. They're the grapefruits, all of them. They would - they would - not - None of those would fit in the - We didn't want to use up the room in the rock boxes for those big ones.
CC: Okay, Pete - -
CDR: Now, if it's okay with you, we would like to tie that Surveyor camera gear and all that stuff right in front of the L-shaped bag between it and A-4 and 5.
CC: Pete, let us run - -
CDR: Another thing is - -
CC: - - that cne down a little bit, and we'11 be get- ting back to you.
CDR: Okay. The other thing is we have the two lunar surface suits, Al's snd mine, in the lower part of the L-shaped bag, and we have Dick's Jn the upper part. And what we intend to do, with your -_ concurrence there, is to leave those two lunar 136/4 Tape suits in the lower part of the L-shaped bag, and we'11 take Dick's out and tie it on top of A-1 under the Commander's couch. I don't want to take those lunar suits out of the bags. They're so darned dirty that it's unbelievable.
CC: Okay, Pete. /
CDR: And that's it. We don't have any other gear. Everything's stashed where it belongs.
CC: Okay, Pete. Do you have any rocks underneath couches?
CDR: Do we have any what?
CC: Do you have rocks stowed directly underneath couches? And, if so, we'd like to assure that you have at least a 3-inch clearance.
CDR: No. No, we don't have rocks stored there. They're all in the Surveyor - in the big bag that has the Surveyor camera in it. The lunar tools and the extra bag of rocks are all in the - in the one big A-4 and 5.
CC: Okay. And for that, you estimated the total weight of tha _ bag is 157 Or was that only the rJeks?
CDR: That's only the rocks. That's got the camera - the Surveyor camera - and the lunar tools that we said we were bringing back.
CC: Pete, is Dick on the line?
CMP: Yes. I'm listening. Go _head, Ed.
CC: Okay, Dick. One thing on the P23's, which we have done - and the ones coming up. The latest vector shows the angle Gamma of about minus 6.04, and that's based on 14 hours of unperturbed tracking after dumps, purges, and _nbalance-eouple P23's. Inaccuracies in our ground vector or tra- Jectory perturbations could give us this angle. You have already demonstrated the extreme aeeurac; that you can get using two Jets. To avoid trajec- tory perturbations and uncertainties in our ground vector, we would like you to use balance couples from here on for your P23's. Also, since the use 136/5 Tape 980 Page of unbalance couples perturbs the state vector, as you have so accurately detemined, it would be useful to see how accurately you can do the balance-couple P23 's.
CMP: That sounds like a pretty good speech.
CC: I've been working on it all morning.
CC: Dick, from your - from your brutn silence, I can only conclude that you're working up a comparable speech.
CMP: Yes. We'11 do it. No. There's no question about that, Ed. We'11 do it any way you want to. Sounds like GUIDO and FIDO are having at it again. Wait a minute.
CC: Say, Dick, a from the trench, here. Don't put GUIDO in with the bad guys.
CMP: Houston, Apollo 12. The position report: we're over 16 north, 144.97 west - correction, east.
CC: Roger. That looks good to us down hero.
CMP: How could it be? That's with my bad state vector.
CC: I guess - -
CDR: Are you hitting the needle?
CC: I guess I'd better go back and work on that speech again.
CDR: No, I think the only point that Dick was trying to make - and that's a very valid point - certainly it perturbs the vector, but the next series of mmrks takes out that perturbation from the pre- vious set and so forth; and, if you're really doing your own NAV - navigate all the way down, almost to entry and that's what we're trying to prove. I think you all are worrying a little bit too much about preserving your own vector down there so far out. We all know that doing it with balance couples is going to make it ... and there are going to be poorer marks. And if I was coming home no C0_4, my last worry would be perturbing my own state vector by a gnat's eyebrow, as long as I was going to continue those marks all the way down to just 136/6 Tape
CC: Okay. You really think using balance couples will degrade appreciably the marks you may be able to get?
CDR: It does in the simulator, so we'11 find out up here.
CMP: Ed, that's a good point_ we ought to look at it that way since I'11 be doing it, and I'11 be using the same techniques. I - I know it's going to be a lot harder to do, and it'11 take a little longer, but maybe - maybe we can prove something by doing it that way. I think it's a good idea to look at it the other way, also.
CC: Okay. So far, the ones you've done on two quads look real good. You can get a Job down here as a P23 instructor.
CMP: Oh, no, I won't. Page 982 )
CMP: Hey, Ed, I've Just been thinking about the nasty accusations you people have been making about my unbalanced-couple minimum-impulse P23's, and gee whiz, I kind of think it's probably EECOM's water dumps that's doing all this to the state vectors.
CC: Just a minute, Dick; we've got F_COM and FIDO wrestling down in the trench. We'11 get them apart and discuss it.
LMP: No, you don't have to do that; I was just bugging you. Trying to find something in my defense_
CDR: What he's telling you is he's getting lazy up here and he doesn't want to work today.
CC: Yes. But the people down here are talking a lot about dumps we've been having. Maybe that could do it. ./
CC: We sure are.
UNKNOWN: Hello, Houston; Apollo 12. No star for this particular one.
CMP: That star 204?
CC: Roger, 204. We have an alternate star for you here. Star 125, near, and we'11 have the m_it vectors for )ou _d NOUN 88 when you're ready to copy.
CMP: Okay. Just staid by.
CC: 125 is the star; unit vectors NO_ in 88 are as follows: minus 0.25_72, minus 0.78647, minus 0.56266. ]
CMP: All right, Houston; this is 12. Understand star - star 125, minus 0.25472, minus 0.78647, minus 0.56266. That Charlie?
CC: That's Charlie, and th_ magnitude of that is 2.4.
CC: Okay. Wa_ 204 pretty close to the Sun or about 20 degrees, maybe?
CC: That's affirmative. Shaft line is about 6 degrees from the Sun.
LMP: Hello, Houston. I still don't have a star.
CC: Okay, Dick. Stand by. Okay, Dick; let's' try star 24, far, and you have the unit vectors on board. That's a 2.8 magnitude.
CMP: That was star 24. That's okay; I don_t need the vector for it. Star 24 was far horizon?
CMP: Houston, this is 12. A comment on that first mark: I was a little deep into the h_rizon on that one. I think that's why it came out of that DELTA-R.
CMP: Hello, Houston_ 12.
CMP: Ed, I went back to look at 204 again, and every can't now and then I pick up the star. It's so dim that I'm trying to move it out of the horizon can't use P23. view, so I really _t for a 15 degrees.
CC: - - star shaft angle from the line of sight of the Sun. I think we quoted your figure as 6.
CMP: Okay. Then, I still can't see it. I'm going back and do - give you another trunnion - or optics CAL trunnion bias. 137/3 Tape 984 Page
CC: Dick, say again. We didn't copy your last comment. an
CMP: Going to go back and get you optics CAL.
CMP: Okay, Houston. There you are.
CC: Okay, Dick. Thanks very much. It looks good. Would you hold this attitude for about another minutes 2 while we finish up on the tape dump?
CC: Sure will. We're getting ready to m,neuver to the high gain antenna test attitude, but we'11 wait.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. We have the switch con- figuration for the S-band test.
CMP: Go ahead. We're ready to copy.
CC: Okay. It's the same configuration which we went through yesterday. If you still have that, it's good; if not, I'11 read it up to you again. )
CMP: Ed, I think we still have it, but go ahead and read it and we'11 do it as you read it.
CC: Okay. S-BAND TRANSPONDER to PRIMARy, S-BAND AUX to TAPE.
CC: TAPE RECORDER, PCM/ANAM_; TAPE RECORDER, RECORD; S-BAND ANTENNA, HIGH GAIN; HIGH GAIN ANTENNA POW_H, ON; HIGH GAIN ANTENNA SERVO ELECTRONICS, PRIMARY.
CMP: Okay. We're - we're all there except - we're all there except for the SERVO ELECTRONICS to PRIMARY, and I'm in the SECONDARY TRANSPONDER and going to PRIMARY TRANSPONDER at this time.
CMP: Houston, 12. -) Page985
CC: Apollo 12, go ahead, f
LMP: Roger. We're all set now. We've got the TRANS- PONDER in FI_I_LARY;S-BAND AUX is to TAPE; PCM/ ANALOG to RECORD; I'm not yet to FORWARD; HIGH GAIN POWER and the SERVO ELECTRONICS in PRIMARY.
CMP: And are you going to - are you going to run the tape?
CC: Dick, we'11 be running the tape if we come up with a problem. But we'11 ha_c it - We:11 be asking you to turn it on when we develop a problem.
CMP: Okay. Fine; understand. And we're in LOW BIT RATE. You want IOW or HIGH BIT RATE?
CC: HIGH BIT RATE.
CMP: Okay. All set.
CC: 12, Houston. Go ahead. C/4P
UNKNOWN: Ed. While we're in this attitude, we can run the same test with our GDC as we ran yester- day for you. The difference is that we're using the rate i needles at this - rate I package at this time for the GDC, and it seems to be Just as bad as the rate 2 system, so if you want to, we can give you the same check.
CC: Okay. Let's go ahead with that, Dick. We're ready to copy.
CMP: Okay. We're Just going to - we're aligning the GDC at this time.
CMP: Okay, Houston. We aligned it in roll 0};9.h, pitch is 000.9, and yaw is 068.6.
CC: Roger, 12. Copy 0_9.};,000.9, and 068.6.
CC: Would you put the ATTITUDE SET switch to the GDC position?
CDR: I was Just going to mention that we've gotten up to 60 on the glycol EVAP T_IP, but I see it's starting back down now that we've got tailpipe to the Sun. I'11 just leave them alone. We're quite comfortable.
CC: Roger, Pete. F_NDOF TAPE AIR-TO-GROU_"D 138/1 Tape
CC: I Apollo 12, Houston.
CC: Could w,_ get another reading on those GDC angles? And then after that, we'd like to propose another methoa in order to get a little more accuracy. One of the problems we're having is, when the yaw angle gets over 60 degrees, we get a lot of coupling with the other axes, and it's difficult for us to sort it out and get a good hack on what the drift rates really are. If you give us those - -
CDR: That's true.
CC: Okay. If you could give us those readouts now, and, then afterwards, align the - you can use the align - the attitude set to 000, _ the th%_nbwheel.
CDR: Okay, Ho_ton. The roll is 051.1, pitch is 358.7, 9nd yaw is 069.3.
CC: Roger. 051.1, 358.7, 069.3. Thank you.
CDR: Wait a minute, Houston; we used the wrong numbers.
CDR: Okay, Houston. The angles are 052.4, 003.8, 071.O.
CC: Roger. 052.4, 003.8, 071.0.
CDR: Okay. We aligned at 000.
CDR: About 3, 4 days ago, I guess, our number 1 urine filter stopped flowing, sO we switched filters; and our number 2 filter Just quit flowing, so we're dumping without any filter, and I wondered how long that's going to work. Any good words about that?
CC: Stand by, Pete. We'11 try to get some for you.
CC: 12, would you start a battery B charge, and also give us a readout of the battery manifold pressure?
CMP: _-A battery manifold reads 1.5.
CC: 1.5. Thank you. AIR-TO-GROUND 139/1 i Tape " Page 989
CC: 12, we have a little more endurance than that.
CDR: It's R&R time aboard the Clipper.
CC: 12, do you have the sequence camera going?
CMP: What's the movie tonight in the wardroom?
CMP: What's the flick in the wardroom tonight?
CC: Dick, we've got one called "Lost in Space" or "After P23' s."
CMP: Are you giving me a - Are you sending me a message?
CMP: Ken, are you telling me that MSFN's vector's the same degree as mine?
CC: Dick, we're trying to shape up the MSFN vector now.
CC: Dick, was that meant to be post-TLI music?
CC: I hope it's not post-TEI.
CMP: This isn't too bad right now. Well, it's not too bad right now. I guess it depends on where the song originates, huh?
CC: Apollo 12. TAPE RECORDER to FORWARD and WIDE BEAM width.
CMP: Roger. FCRWARD, WIDE BEAM width. hours
CMP: It takes almost 10 to start - 2 hours to start that up, doesn't it?
CC: It took a little longer time time.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. Could we have the readouts of the AGC and the antenna pitch and yaw angles?
CMP: Okay. Pitch is about minus 20 degrees, yaw is 190, and the AGC on European clock code for 12 o'clock, it's about - lb5; in other words, I'd estimate about three-quarter full scale.
CC: Roger. Understand. Pitch, minus 20; yaw, 190; and about three-quarters AGC, _5, or scale. Thank you, Dick.
UNKNOWN: you to, first of all, dial in a pitch of minus 60, yaw, 2_0; and, then on our call, switch the high gain antenna to MANUAL then And mode and to REACQ. we'11 give you a call when we want you to go to 5iA2{UAL.
CMP: Okay. I've got minus 60 and 2h0 already set up. Waiting for your call.
CC: Apollo 12, will you go to MANUAL mode and then REACQ?
CMP: Okay. In MAI_JAL - going to ...
CC: Apollo 12, would you again give us the readings of the AGC and antenna pitch and yaw?
CMP: Roger. It's the same as before, Ed. Minus 20, 190, and about three-quarter full scale.
CC: Apollo 12, would you switch the high gain to NARROW BEAM? And we'11 give you a call in 30 seconds and ask you to read out the same quant ities.
CMP: Okay, Ed. Pitch looks like it's about minus 12, AGC yaw is 180, and the peaked in when I switched to NARROW and it's dropped off now to three- quarter full scale. 139/3 Tape
CC: Roger. Understand. Minus 12, 180, and AGC peaked and now at three-quarter scale. still oscillating?
CMP: ... straight. Ken, but it's gone up by about angles five-sixths, and the antenna position are pitch, minus 20, and yaw, 190.
CC: Roger. We copied pitch, minus 20, and yaw, 190; and - do you see any oscillations at all?
CMP: No, I don't see any at all right now.
CC: Thank you, Dick.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. Could we have the G!_C angles?
CMP: They are the same, Ed; minus 20 and 190.
CC: Dick, right now we're looking for the GDC angles - We're finished now with the high gain test.
CMP: Oh, I'm sorry - I mis - misunderstood you, and we'11 give them to you real quick here. I think we've got a better GDC on the number 1 package than we had with the number 2. 6.7,
CMP: OkaY, Ed. Roll is 5.8, pitch is and yaw is 6.1.
CC: Copy. 5.8, 6.7, and 6.1.
CC: 12, we can go now to the P23 attitude, but we'd 180 attitude like you to roll from that for thermal reasons.
CC: And would you - Be sure that you are manually maneuvered away from gimbal lock.