Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
CC: 12, Houston. Would you give us S-BAND AUX to 0.WF? OFF and TAPE RECORDER to
CMP: Hey, what'd you learn from that high gain antenna test ?.
CC: Okay, 12. We have a recommendation on the use of that system without the filter. First of all, we recommend you continue to use the over- board line without the filter, and it's possible it may clog. If so, we'11 have you dump the waste water down to some quantity, which we'11 specify at that time. After that, you can in- stall the interconnect line and use the system as before. The interconnect procedure, you'11 find on ECS TI.
CMP: 12. Roger.
CC: And, 12, one note on the stowage configuration which you specified earlier. That configuration looks to be a good one from our standpoint. We would make understand like to sure we it as you do. We understand you've got the Surveyor parts bag, rocks, and tools all in one large white bag, and that is on the floor in front of the L-shaped And bag. between it and A-4 - -
CDR: That's where it is.
CC: And
UNKNOWN: that's between it and A-4, A-5, and that this bag is tied down.
CC: Okay. Your LM gear is in A-8 - - not
CDR: It's there right now, Ed.
CC: Okay. But that's where you plan to have it. 1_9/5 Tape
CDR: That - That's right. and under
CC: Okay. LM gear is in A-8 - Dick's PGA A-i?
CC: Okay. It's a good way to go.
CMP: Hey, Ed. What page did you say this intercon- nect was on the - -
CC: That's ECS MAL 31.
CMP: - - What number ?·
CMP: Okay. Now, is this - Okay; got it; 31. Is this doping the waste water through the hatch?
CC: Negative, Dick. Stand by.
CMP: Houston, this is 12. We understand what you're talking about okay - on the waste water.
CC: Okay, Dick. That's the first procedure stuff defined on that page. understand
CMP: Yes. We it.
CC: The drift rates you got on package 1 were 3.7 degrees in all axes. We'11 be sitting in this attitude here for - on the order of 45 min- and utes to an hour. Why don't we go ahead take a look at package 2 in the same way as we did pack_ge 17
CMP: Okay. It's a good idea. Are you saying also we're delaying the P23's for another hour or so?
CMP: Okay. That's fine with me. Yes. We're not going to go _,,here; we']] b_ here.
CMP: Okay - 139/6 Tape
UNKNOWN: 17 CMP The GDC is aligned on package 2.
CMP: On packsge number - package number 2.
CC: Apollo 12, _{ouston.
CC: !2, we'd like you to take the waste water dump to 30 percent at the present time. Your I>23 can sholuld And he clear for the sightings. also, our tem- peratures will come hack to where we like to see them, and the second set of P23's can he done at 220 hours even.
UNKNOWN: I understand. Take the waste water Mud dump it right now to 30 percent. The second set of P23's, do those at 218:30 _,ld the third set as in the flight plan at 220. Is that. affirma- tive?
CC: That's affirmative, Dick. And you ,_ave the attitudes for those on board.
CMP: Yes, I sure do. And for my information, on the waste water dump to 30 percent, will that give us our 80 percent for reentry tomorrow?
CC: That's affirmative, Dick; that's what we're looking for.
CMP: Okay. This should be our last one on the waste water then, is that right?
CC: That's right. 12 AIR-TO-GROUND VOICE, TP_SCRIPTION 140/1 Tape
CC: Hello, Apollo 12; Hous*on.
LMP: Hello: Houston; Apollo 12.
CC: Say, 12, you can go ahead and carry out a fuel cell 02 purge for 2 minutes at the present time. You won'_ ha--e to do an H2 purge either now, nor group together before reentry. This ought to all the that last of perturbations and also will be of any dumps or purges that will he required by us. This will make one big happy FIDO down here and ought to Just cut down and - or eliminate anything else we'11 require from you.
CMP: Okay. We'11 purge the fuel cells of oxygen far 2 minutes on each ode. And I'm glad to see you have a very happy FIDO then.
CC: Apollo i2, Houston.
UNKNOWN: ° 12 here.
CC: Dick, we'd like you to go to Bravo-Delta roll in the DAP, and we have an RCS consumables update for you when you're ready to copy.
CMP: Okay. Let me get the PAD first.
CMP: Okay, Ed. Go ahead.
CC: Okay. GET 217 plus 30; RCS total, 29; 31, 31, 24, 30. 30.
CC: That's Charlie. And, Dick, on the P23's which you're doing at 217; before you reported you had a problem with star 204, which is your third stax' listed there, we would like you to t_ke and +ry 125 over again in its place. That shoumd be about 0.7 magnitude brighter relative than 204. You have the unit vectors for that already; they weFe read up, or you could find them on page 3-18E on the flight plan. O4P
UNKNOWN: I already have them. It is interesting that I couldn't see star 125 befora either.
CC: Okay, Dick. if you would, give it a try again this time and if it won't work, we'11 have another star ready for you.
UNKNOWN: Okay. I'11 be glad to.
CMP: Houston, 12. Was that far horizon or near horizon on 1257
CC: 125 is near.
CMP: Okay. Near. Thank you.
CC: Hello, 12; Houston. We have a preliminary result of your high gain test.
CC: The up- and downlink rf signal strength decreased by approximately 10 to 12 dB. 'l%e data does not show that the beam switching occurred during the problem period. The onboard antenna does show the - the antenna would move off boresight as though it was tracking and nulling a false error. The tentative conclusion is that since the antenna wou_d operate in the WIDE B_4 in REACQ in NARROW BEAM, MANUAL, it appears that the boresight shift is caused by a loss of anteana feed or a eompara- tor circuitry in the NARROW BE_.!mode - the strip lines- The high gain antenna malfunction has been isolated to the high gain antenna rf area, thereby eliminating the high gain antenna, the electronic box, and the S-band transponder. The problem appears to be associated with the dynamic ther__-i operation of the antenna.
CMP: Housgon, 12.
CMP: Hey, Ed, what did the boys in the back room say about that first set today of P23's?
CC: Stand by on that, Dick, and we'11 try and get a word up to you.
CC: It's gcing to take a little while to get a speech together on this one, Dick.
CC: It will take to get - a little while to get a a comparable speech to the last one together.
CMP: Don't worry about that, Just a good, bad, or indifferent, or usable. I don't want any speeches from you, Ed. Conrad's giving them all up here.
CC: Hello, Dick; Houston.
CMP: Hello.
CC: Dick, the sightings themselves that you took were very good in terms of procedures and, from what we could tell, the accuracy. When you incorpo- rated them into the state vector, however, we did see a raise in the vacuum perigee of about 6 miles.
CDR: Where - What did this bring it up to, Ed, about 30 miles?
CC: Dick, that moves us up to about 27 miles.
LMP: Ed, _' onboard perigee is 23.2 miles.
CC: Copy. You have 23.2 miles.
CMP: That's out of a VERB 32 - That's a negative value, of course.
CC: Dick, at this time, you can maneuver to the P23 attitude; and - First, however, we wo,zld like those drift check numbers. You can start those P23's if it's - the atmosphere around the spacecraft looks sufficiently clear to take sightings.
CDR: Okay, Ed. They are 3.1, 7.0, and 8.3, roll, pitch, and yaw.
CC: Thank you, Pete. That's 3.1, 7.0 and 8.3.
CDR: Tnat's correct.
CC: 12, Houston. TapL 140/4
CC: Your package 2 drift weights were roll, 1.9; pitch, 5.9; and yaw, 6.8. We've been able - We've calculated your vacuum perigee using your state vector as a value of plus 18.6, and a reentry angle of minus 6.63. Using our state vector, we get a value of plus 27 nautical miles and the angle of 6.01.
CC: And, Pete, if you would ·, would you have A1 check his leads on the EKG when convenient? . We're not getting a valid EKG reading down here.
CDR: I'm not sure he's alive. He only comes out every once in a while for a meal.
CC: Well, we want to watch him, too.
CDR: Will you let me k_ow what he's doing?
CC: Well, okay. Go ahead.
CDR: How's that look, Ed?
CMP: Houston, 12. I have no sta_ for the number 1 st_r.
CC: Roger, Dick. We've got another star here, that's 156, and you can find the unit vectors for that on p&ge 3-188 on your flight plan.
CMP: Star number is 1567
CC: And, Pete, '_e're still getting some noisy readings from Al's EKG. If you would, ask him to check them again and, if they appear unchanged or loose, then we'd li_e him to go ahead and r_bond them.
LMP: Okay. I Just checked them, Ed, and they seem to be okay to me. Is this the same kind of erratic ratings we were getting Just prior to going into the LM, or do you think it's some - do you thini: it's a sensor problem? Do you think it's s_nething - connector problem or somethir_?
CC: It looks to be exactly the same as we've noted before, and we think it's a connection problem.
CC: Al, clarification on that, it's a connection of the sensor to your skin as opposed to the other connector.
CMP: Okay, Houston. This is 12. I still don't have a star. 156 is no good either.
CC: Okay, Dick. Last one we have worked up down here is 174 and you car, find the state - unit vectors for that on the same page, 188 in your flight plan.
CMP: Houston, you'11 be happy to hear I have a star this time.
UNKNOWN: Houston, Apollo 12.
LMP: I Just took a look at _ BIOMED harness and, sure enough, the very same sensor is dried out again, the paste in there. And I'm not able to ease it out this time to replace it with new paste, so what I'm going to do is take off my old bioharness and put on a brand new one, if that's okay with yOU ·
CC: Roger. That's very good. We'11 have a happy surgeon if you do that. Ib[P
UNKNOWN: Well, tell him I'm going to take them off, and it'11 take me about 30 minutes or an hour to do it.
CC: That's great, Al; press on.
CMP: Houston, 12. No star.
CC: I read you, Dick. Let's go to 26-F. C?4P r Page 1000
CMP: Ok_v, Houston. There you are.
CC: Roger, Dick. We have it. You can remain at that optics CAL attitude until your next set of P23's coming up in about 1 hour.
CMP: Okay. Fine. Thank you.
CMP: How about the stars for that next one? looks like we already got some bad ones we know about.
CMP: Roger, Dick. We see that. We're working on some, and we'11 pass then up to you shortly.
CC: 12, Houston. You can terminate BAT B charge now.
CC: 12, could we have a readout of the battery mani- folds before you vent?
CMP: Houston, it's 1.2, and we're going to vent it.
CC: 1.2. Thank you.
CC: That last set of P23's moved us in the right direction; looks as though your vacuum perigee now is 23.4 from using your onboard state vector reentry and angle of minus 6.28. So we're - looks as though that set of P23's is gi'ziDg us good agreement between i,_ and your onboard value.
CDR: Okay. Houston. please.
CC: Apollo 12, Give us WIDE BEAM width,
CDR: Roger. Good morning, Jerry.
CC: How you doing? _4P
UNKNOWN: you been all day. Watching the football game?
CC: Yes. You better believe it. lhl/2 Tape Page fOOl
LMP: Which one did you watch?
CC: I Just saw the Oilers getting started with Miami. They're tied right now, 7 to 7. Oh, it's 10 to ? now; and I'm kind of waiting for the Rahs and the Cowboys to get started a little later. Be starting in about 2-1/2 or an hour and a half f.'om now.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston with a flight plan update.
CMP: Stand 1, Jer.
CC: Okay. This is for your P23 at 220. Star number 161 is still good; star number 17_ is still good; and 26 is still good for the third sighting. For the fourth sighting, change your star nu_ber to 31 - 31 fs and I think you have the unit vectors on that, alread_ The fifth sighting - -
CMP: I don't think we're going to need it.
CMP: That star 31, I don't need the unit vectors, Jerry.
CC: Okay. Star number 5, or sighting number 5 is Jupiter; that's still good. Sighting number 6 would he on star 75 near, and here's the unit vectors for it: R1 is minus 09871; R2 is minus 79163; and R3 is minus 60299 For nltcrn-_tes,yo.;have 24 far and 236 north, or correction, near; and the unit vectors on 236 are as follows: R1 is minus 45010; R2 Is minus 89075, and R3 is minus 06311. Over.
CMP: Okay, Jerry. I'm sorry .... I'm with you now. I was looking up star 17_. I thought I had used that before and it was no good; but I did use it, and it was good. Number i star is 161. It's okay. okay. Number 2 star is 17_, and it's Number 3 star is 26. Number _ star is 31, and it's Earth far on horizon. Jupiter is okay for number 5; and number 6 we're replacing with star number 75; Earth near horizon unit vectors: minus 09871; minus 79163; 141/3 _pe 60298. minus Two alternate stars, 24 on the far horizon and 236 on the near horizon; 236 unit vectors are minus 45010, minus 89075, minus 06311. Over. msgnitude
CC: That's affirmative, Dick. Your on star 31-F is 0.2, and the magnitude on 236 near is 3.0.
UNKNOWN: Okay. Fine. Understand.
CDR: Thank you. Mi,mi,
CC: Apo!lo 12, Houston. It's Oilers, 17; 7.
UNKNOWN: Good-o.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. It's Oilers, 22; Mi_i, 7, now. We've got a field goal and a safety.
CMP: Roger, Jerry. No star is visible for number 6 or 75 near horizon. ¥_ich would you rather have me use - 24 or 236?
CC: Standby a second.
CC: ' 12, HoustOn.
CC: Roger. They want to check your unit vector again on star 75. They didn't see it come up in the last register.
CC: As best we can tell, you ought to be able to use 75.
CMP: Well, the best I can tell, I c_'t.
CC: Okay. Stand by a second.
CC: 12, Houston. Recommend you use 24 far. Over.
CMP: Okay. END OF T_PE lb2/1 Tape
UNKNOWN: Houston. It's all
CC: Roger, 12. You should be going to the PTC at- titude now, and I've got some procedures for contam- you for photographing that hatch window ination when you're ready to copy.
CMP: Okay, Jerry. Stand by.
CC: Roger, Dick. The best way to take these photos Sun-incidence angle is with a of about h5 de- grees, and, in PTC, you'11 get this angle when your roll is either 215 degrees or 290 degrees. procedure And the to use is essentially the same as we did on the way out, you know, when you took pictures of windows 1 and 2. They need to have you clean the inside pane, and then set your Hasselblad with the 80-millimeter lens with black-and-white film and take two 1/250th photos at an f-stop of 5.6 at and a focus of 3 feet, and then change your f-stop to f:l_ and take two more photos. Over.
CMP: Okay, Jer. We got all that, and we'11 get that · done.
CC: Roger. In your - Going into PTC, we recom- mend that you disable quads Charlie and Delta and select O_NI Bravo for us, and we'11 take care of switching for you. On your high gain antenna, would you turn off your power and we'11 leave it off until time for TV and then get it up again? And, Just a reminder, during the _"J portion, it looks like you're going to have to limit your - your views to interior because the Sun being - pretty near to being behind the Earth like it is, we're afraid that if you try to take a look at the Earth with the camera, you're liable to zap it in the s_m- light. And, looking ahead to 2z1:30, we would like you to do that P52 that's planned on there, there'11 be no mideourse number 6, and we'11 number probably do a midcourse 7. Over.
CDR: Okay. Understand.
CC: Good enough, and has Dick _ot _ukV co_ents on P237 the l_sults of the last It looked pretty good down here.
CDR: He says no.
CMP: Good up here.
CC: Roger. Final score on that ballgame was Houston, 32; Miami, 7. Thank
CMP: Very good, Jer. you.
CDR: Earlier they reported that we weren't going to do anything more from the ground in the way of purges. Does that meat. that we're going to skip this H 2 purge here?
CC: T_nat's affirmative, Pete. Okay.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. You can start your PTC.
CC: Pete, we've Just uncovered a problem on the TV program that's scheduled. We come to find out we have a terrain-masking problem on Goldstone, and the TV start and sto? times that we've got for you right now are too early. What it boils down to is, we can't start TV until 224:10 and, with your concurrence, we'd like to run the TV And show between 221_:10 and 224:40. that means stopping your PTC at 223:50, and I've got some \ attitude angles and high gain angles for you; _and so what you'11 do is st_; in PTC a little longer and get all your presleep checklist out of the way and have it all done so that we can run this _ show - the press conference that we've got for you here - And then as soon as we're finished with that, we can Just shut her down, and you guys can hesd for the sack.
CDR: Very good. That's fine with us.
CC: Okay. If you're ready for - -
CDR: We're having a hard time using - we're having a hard time using all that 10-hour rest period these days.
CC: Okay. If you're ready to copy, I'Ve got your times, and attitudes, and everything for you.
CC: Okay. We're on page 3-191. k_ere it says "maneuver to TV attitude," change 223:15 to 223:50. And your roll is 340; pitch, 270; yaw, O. Your high gain angles are pitch, plus 190; and yaw, 270. And in this attitude, you'11 have window number i looking at the Earth and window number 5 looking at the Moon. And, as I mentioned before, your TV then will be from 224:10 to 224:40, and let's move this - and go ahead and get this presleep checklist done early. And we've got your - The questions that I'11 be reading up to you on this press conference submitted by the Apollo 12 press corps, and that 's about it, Pete.
CC: 12, Houston. Affirmative. We've got your torquing angles. fancy
CDR: Okay. That Dick Gordon is getting pretty in PTC, isn't he?
CC: Pretty slick.
CMP: A few more days, and I'11 understand it. 143/1 Tape )
CMP: Houston, Apollo 12. We're going to be working with our TV camera inside, and so we're going to take out our S-band FM transmitter group 1 circuit breaker.
CC: Roger, 12. ·
CC: Apollo 22, Houston.
CC: Roger. Got a few ball scores for you.
CC: Roger. The Rams beat the Cowboys 24 to 23 in a real squeaker of a game that Just finished. The Raiders beat the Chiefs, 27 to 24; and Vikings, 52; Steelers, 14. That pretty well covers it for today with the TV ballgames, ard you already know the score of the Oiler-Mi'_mi game. ')
CC: Okay. And another it__m - wanted to Just review with you the format for today's Tq show. In this particular little news conference bit, you're going to be asked questions that were submitted by newsmen right here at MSC. That's the news staff that's been here covering the flight. Most of the questions that are going to be read up to you will be exactly as submitted by the newsmen, and they'11 be in an order of priority specified by the news media.
LMP: We're going to stop in about 2, 3 minutes and at 340 roll.
CC: Okay. lb4/1 Tape
CC: Roger. On that high gain antenna, you can go ahead and Just go to REACQ, NARROW BEAM, and let's wait and see what happens. If it goes sour on us, we'11 have to go MANUAL.
CMP: Okay. It's in REACQ, NARROW BEAM, now.
CC: Okay, and we're getting you 5 by right now.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston with sor_emore football score_ for you.
CC: Roger. New Orleans _3, San Francisco 38; San Diego _5, Denver 24; Detroit 16, Green Bay 10; Cleveland 28, New York 17; Baltimore 24, Chicago 21.
CMP: There's a few interesting ones in there, isn't there?
CC: Didn't copy that, Dick. Say again.
CMP: I said, "there's a few interesting ones in there."
CC: That's affirmative. The Saints are looking pretty good.
CC: 12, Houston. One more score: Philadelphia, 34; Saint Louis, 30.
CMP: Like I said, a very interesting day.
CMP: Houston - Ya_kkee.
UNKNOWN: anytime you are.
CC: Okay. We're checking out our lin_; _.e'11 be right back with you.
CMP: Okay. We're sending.
CC: Roger. Tape lhh/2
CC: 12, Houston. We're copying you.
CC: 12, Houston. You look great but you're upside down.
CDR: Take the camera - -
CDR: Turn us over.
CDR: Take the camera over - that's the only way we could mount it.
CC: Okay. Look like a bunch of bats hanging from the ceiling.
CDR: That's what flying with rookies will do for you.
CC: 12, Houston. Stand by a couple of seconds here; we're going to try to flip the picture.
CDR: The fourth g_ holding the camera doesn't understand F_uglish, so we can't get him to turn it around up here.
CC: Would you believe that we can't flip it?
CC: About the best we can do is flip black and white but the color has to stay where it is.
CDR: Okay. Well, let's see what we can do. quality picture.
CC: Looks very good, Pete.
CDR: Okay, I guess we's ready if you're right side up now. It
CC: Real fine, Pete. looks good. We can see all three of you. We see A1 Bean flipping in on the side there. First of all, I'11 read you a little statement; then, we'11 start off with the questions. The questions that you'11 be asked in this news conference have been submitted by newsmen here at the Manned Spacecraft Center who have been covering the flight. Some of the questions their raise will lhh/3 Tape you exactly as submitted by the newsmen, and in an order of priority specified by them. So, here comes question number 1. If you had this mission to fly over again or were planning an- other with your present knowledge, what would you do differently and what equipment would you _dd or modify, specifically in connection with rqVA? the Over. and
CDR: Well, I thi,uk we'd work over all the tools - the tool carrier and the bags. I think we'd work over Just about all of it. I thimk it was very good, and I think it operated very well, seeing we'd never been there before and attempted to dc that kind of work. Now that we've done it, I think we can make some improvements on it. Now, I'11 let A1 talk about it.
CDR: I think that you about hit it, Pete. I thir2{ the PLSS's and the OPS's and the suits, as far as the operation of both EVA's were, you couldn't ask for anything better than that. The tools are going to need a little work.
CC: Okay, troops, here comes - -
CMP: ... - Hey, Jerry?
CMP: If I had it to do over again, I'd of - I'd of wa- gered a little more with all those people who said I would never be able to find the I_l on the lunar surface. In fact, if I'd of been that smart, I'd have bet them I'd find the Surveyor also and I'd retire.
CC: (Laughter) Roger, Dick. Okay, here comes question number 2. Was there some confusion about something launch thunder- you zend yesterday about the into the clouds? Would you or would you not consent to launching under those conditions again?
CDR: I'd go again.
CMP: We made it this time; why couldn't we do it again?
CC: Okay, uroops. Question nut.her 3. Aside from the lightning, what gave you your most apprehensive moment, if any, either before the lunar la_ding, '_ during your time on the Moon, or afterwards? And if you never had an apprehensive moment, was there ever a time when you may have been a little bit concerned ov,Ir what was going on?
LMP: Well - how about from lift-off all the way through to a GET of 224 h_r$ and 14 minutes and 30 seconds?
CDR: Yes, that's a pretty good answer. I think - I think clearly all three of us were a lot calmer through most of the flight than I thought we'd be or any of us thought we'd be, except I think both A1 and I were a little hit nervous about ascent. After . .., you only got to have one engine. I think we were a little tweaked there right - towards T O on lift-off through the ascent stage; but once we got going and it was going so well, that - really didn't concern either one of us after that. time
LMP: The only I can think of is - one time when we were walking around on the lunar surface on the sec- end EVA, I felt my suit pressure kind of pulse. And that PLSS is so good that you ne_er feel any change in pressure as you walk around or move around or '_ Jump up and down or anything else. This one time it did, and I took a quick glance at my suit pressure gage because I thought maybe it was building up or decreasing; I had some sort of problem where I would - had to use the OPS, but it wasn't the gage. It was Just right, and that was the end of it. The only time it occurred either, but that gave me quite pulse there for a second.
CMP: Well, I think when we - switched to the command module side of the house, Jerry. Everything has gone accord- ing to plans and as expectad. I think that the best thing about my end of the operation is that there have not been _gy su_rise$, and I'd like to keep it that way.
CC: Yes, that's kind of nice, no surprises. Pete, now questions number 4 is for _ou. Out there on the Moon, you sounded happy, even euphoric. Some people think that maybe you were on an oxygen high. Were you? And for both you and Al, how did it feel subjectively to be out there?
CDR: Well, I was very happy, but I wasn't on any oxygen high. I was very happy because all the work that we had put into that EVA was beginning to pay off; and once we got over the initial stumbling kl_k of the one little problem we had getting the fuel cask go- lng, why I was quite happy because we were on the time line; everything was going the way we thought it was going to go; and I was Just having a ball because it was much easier than all the one-g prac- tice we'd done learning how to do that.
UNKNOWN: Yes. You're asking about how it feels - I think for about the first lO minutes that you're out, at least in my case, you find that it's not as hard as you think it's going to be to move around, and you're pretty happy about that. But you could sense that first lO minutes you still want to be careful and you don't want to overextend yourself, so you're - you're sort of excited trying to get up to speed, get your balance in good shape, and get your move- ments in good shape so you can start doing the work. And once the first 10 minutes is over and you sort of realize that you now know how to hold your balance and you now aren'_ going to fall down and everything is working real well, I think right then you start getting down to the operational part of it and after
CDR: I was in a good humor to start with. seeing we had landed next to the Surveyor. That started the thing off right.
CC: Okay. Question number 5. On Apollo 11, Armstrong and Aldrin had to curl up in the ccrners of the LM to sleep and complained that they were cold and un- comfortable. You had hammocks and blankets. How did you sleep? And, on the subject of sleep, a lot of people are wondering whether you dreamed there on the Moon.
CDR: Well, let's take them ali in order. In the first place, we didn't have any blankets. We had the ham- mocks. And, as you may or may not remember, about a week before the flight, we found a problem on the boot of my backup suit and all four of our suits were sent back to the factoly and the boots were replaced. And, in the process of doing that, the suit had to be re-rigged when we came back - when they came back to the Cape - and I had to fit my suit without the liquic coolea garment because both the flight ones were al- ready packed, and you can't put a nonflight one ir a flight suit. And I had - the legs got a little bit too tight, so in my bnmmock that night I didn't want to take my suit olf; it was too dirty in there. In m_ llill/b Tape h-mmock, I was very uncomfortable; my shoulders - the suit . was pressing on the bottom of my feet and nly _houlders, ') and it sounds funny but even bending your knees or anything you can't - you can't get rid of that. If the suit's too short, it's too short; it was about a half an inch too short. So I boated with it most of the night and I only slept maybe _ and 1/2 ho_s, mostly on account of that, and then Al, very kind]y, the next morning, let my suit out for me and - which took him about an hour, zo that - that's about how I spent mj night. And as for the dreams, I don't dream normally anyhow, that I can remember, and I didn't dream there.
CDR: I didn't - I didn't dream either, and I don't know; I didn't sleep too good on the Moon. Not because we were cold or hot, because we weren't; we had both the liquid cooled garment on and we had air running through our suit. And so, if we got a little warm, we could either turn on the water pump and get a little cool water r%aming through your suit, which would rapidly cool you down, or turn on the air and get a little air running through your suit to cool you down. So using those two controls, I think Pcte and I stayed Just about the temperature we wanted to stay. And the h-_mmocks were very comfortable; it's interesting that if you rig them on the Earth and they're pretty long and you say - boy, when you get in that, it's really going to sag but when you get on the Moon and you only weigh about 30 or 35 pounds and you get in those hammocks, I was looking at Pete up on his; you don't hardly sag a bit. You Just Kind of l_v there almost horizontal. A real comfortable place to sleep.
CC: Roger, Al. And you didn't dream either, huh?
CC: No, I didn't dream a bit. I woke up and went back to sleep a number of times. Another interesting thing, people have worried about the amoun_ of sound in the LM bothering you. It's fairly noisy in there and there s a couple of pumps that change frequency every. once in a while; but, all in all, I don't think that was any hindrance to sleep, do you, Pete?
CDR: No. I/4P
UNKNOWN: one-sixth g is nice; it Just keeps - lc pushes pressure you down enough so that you feel on your back or your side or wherever you're laying but it's not enough to really give you any pressure points in than the suit. I think one-sixth g is nicer either zero g to sleep in or one g to sleep in. i b - It's a - It's a good happy medium. It's pleasant. 144/7 Tape
CC: Roger. Question number 6 is for Dick Gordon. Dick, how does it feel to be alone for a day and a half in orbit around the Moon? And what were you able to observe of Pete's and Al's activities on the surface?
CMP: Well, it's a little hard - to - to really express how one would feel, being with Pete and A1 for 4 days on the way out there, being very close through all that training, and then being left alone to tend the command module in lunar orbit while they're down there for some 32 hours of the lunar stay. I'd thought about this beforehand - what it would really be like to be com- pletely 81cne on the back side of the Moon, no contact with any other human being; but, surprisingly enough, the activities were such that I was awful busy during my waking hours; didn't really have time to dwell upon that; and, to be perfectly frank, so blasted tired at the end of the day, that I could hardly get to bed fast enough to get enough sleep to carry on the next day's activities which were busy in themselves because of the photographic requirements that were levied on me while in lunar orbit, while Pete and A1 were work- lng on the surface. I never did observe them person- the Surveyor in the crater. I saw both of these ob- Jects twice on two different passes. On one pass, i put the camera on the sextant. Hopefully, I'11 have pictures of that so my doubting friends will no longer question, I what it Jerry, forgot was. Would you're- peat it again? it go in?
CMP: No. None of us saw it go in. After we separated, I tracked the I24for a considerable length of time in the optics, and thought I had a pretty good state vector so tnat the AUTO optics would track the Lt4 automatically. Therefore, I put the camera, the same camera on the sextant right here behind me, hoping that it would automatically track the LM into the lunar surface. I don't know whether we were success- ful with that or not. I have some doubts about that. Certainly we - none of us saw it with our naked eye.
CC: Roger, Dick. Thanks. Question number 7. You men- tioned during the EVA finding three kinds of soil. Tape lhh/8 Page lOlh Will you give e brief description of each, its ) color, its texture, and so forth, and discuss handlqng whatever problems you had in all the different kinds of lunar material.
CDR: Well, when we say three different kinds of soil yesterday, that was a - I guess what I want to say a subjective thing in that the colors were all the s_e. It appeared that some soil was firmer than other soil in the manner in which we sunk into it. And the finer soil would be - the softer soil thav we sank deeper in was of a finer grain. This was over towards the very extreme end of our traverse, over at the sharp crater which is about as far away as we could get from the LM. And now, we have samples - in the sample bags - some of these types of soil. When I say three different kinds of soil, the medium-textured one was where we landed on one side of the Surveyor crater; and, over on the other side when we went down to get to the Surveyor, we found the ground was - I'd say con- siderably more firmer. It appeared to be firmer ground, not quite as - we didn't sink in quite as much as we did over working around the LM. Then, when we got over to the sharp crater, which was the far end, that's the softest ground; we sank in the deepest there. Do you have anything to add to that, Al?
UNKNOWN: you covered it. They asked about the color..
CDR: One of the real difficult things about the whole EVA, in the geology part of it, was the fact there didn't appear to be any difference in color among either the rocks or the soils. They all looked about _the same. The first day, to me, they all looked sort of a _ull gr_y And I think I dsscribed most of the rocks that way, as a dull gray, and the soil's a dull gray, and this sort of thing's a dull gray. And if ,,ou look real close, of course, you could see maybe & - -
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. Break, break. You'11 have to go MANUAL on your high gain antenna. We Just lost yOU.
CC: Okay. We're getting you back now, Pete. Press on. ) Tape l_H/9
CDR: Well, anyway, all the - the rocks, the soil looks sort of a gray, and if you look real close maybe you can find a white rock now and then or you cculd maybe disturb something and get a little darker gray; but generally, they were gray. The second day we went out, the same thing that looked gray to us the first day, started looking, at least to me, started looking a sort of a breton, a dark brown, or a tannish brown; and it was really one of the most interesting things of the EV - of the lunar surface operations, was how much that color could change just with a 7-degree or so Sun-angle change and how ever_'thing _'e there ehAuges color with it. In fact, when came upon the Surveyor, you'11 recall, it was gray, I mean, it was brown. We saw it the second day; it was brown, and we asked you if it had been painted that way and you said no, it hadn't been; it had really been white. When we got up next to it, we discovered that sure enough it looked brown, and the coating on it was the same brown as the soil. Now, I wouldn't be a bit surprisea when we get all those parts back to Houston, they don't turn out to be, you know, under the Earth light and light of the difficult' than we see it on Earth because the color cues Just aren't going to be there; you're going to have to look for texture and fracture and luster and a lot of other things that will eld you in deter- mining differences in rocks and minerals.
CC: Roger. Let's move on to the nex_ question here. It's number 8. Were the Moon's color, texture, and general appearance, as seen from above, as you expected them to be? And is there 8ny place on Earth you know of that looks like the Ocean of Storms?
UNKNOWN: No. I can't think that there is. It reminds me of desert areas. You might be able to find appearance like that in some deserts, particularly the back side of the Moon, which is a lot more beat up than the front side. As far as th_ Ocean of Storms, I guess there really isn't a_y corollary, any one place on Earth that we can recall, at least.
CC: Okay. The ne_ question is for Pete. Pete, every- body's wondering about the fall you took on the Moon. Was it ac__ =ntal or on purpose? And how did it feel to fall in the wes-k lunar gravity and could you h&ve recovered your footing if A1 Bean ha_u't oeen there to help you? Tape lhh/10
CDR: Yes. No, I was - I didn't fall on purpose. I was ) trying to pick up something, and I was Just standing next to Al. It was a rock that was too big to go there of leaning on the tongs and sort of doing a one-armed Jabber-do all stretched out, and I Just sort of rolled over on my side down there o_ the ground and Al, before I got all the way down, Just gave me a shove back up again. I don't think it'11 be any problem. The business of falling against a rock and cutting your suit or something; you don't fall that fast. You Just wouldn't hit a rock h_rd enough, do you think, Al?
LMP: No, not only that, you're talking about not falling fast: When you start to fall, and you lose your · balance at first sort of quickly, particularly if you ever try to back up, because the ground is uneven and you step in holes or over rocks. You fall so slowly that it gives you plenty of time almost to turn around, or catch your footing before you actually get low enough down before it's too late. I can re- call a number of times when I lost my balance. If I'd lost my balance that much on Earth, I would have probably fallen down. But on the Moon, because you start moving so slowly, you're usually able to spiu around and bend your knees and recover. And, like you say, Pete, you're falling so slow that you can usually catch yourself or roll over or something.
CDR: I think that's another thing. I think - and I saw A1 do this two or three times also, in trying to bend over to get something, we'd start to fall over and you fall so slowly that you Just start moving out and you Just keep moving until your feet come back up under you again. So it's not that easy to fall over up there, for that matter. And I really don't think there's any problem.
CC: Roger. Questioa number 10 I think you've pretty well answered, but I'11 read it anyway and you can add any more thoughts you might have to it. While you were inspecting the Surveyor spaeeclaft down there in the crater, you com- mented about changes in its appearance, the white part seemed to turn tan and so on. Will you further discuss this and give us a_y impressions or conclusions you may have about what caused these changes?
CDR: Well, this brown color is definitely some lunar dust that's on it. And it was evenly distributed all the way around it, so I doD't think it's dust Tape lhh/11 that we blew on with the - with the LM when we landed. I think it's accumulated there; it wasn't that easy to wipe off. And the other thing I think that was most apparent to A1 and I were in cutting the tubes_ in practice, we had, and I'm going to have to check this, hut theoretically we had the same aluminum tubing as the struts were on the Surveyor and the tubing appeared much more brittle and much easier to cut up there, so I suspect that some crystallization or something had happened to the metal in the 31 months that it was sitting there. And the other thing was that we noticed that the wire bundles that we had to cut, the insulation had gotten very dry and very hard and also very brittle. And I think that's about it. Can you think of anything else, Al?
LMP: No. I think you covered it, Pete.
CC: Okay, here comes number 11. Do you think that future EVA's can be extended beyond the _-hour linLit? Or do ye believe the number of 4-hour EVA's should be increased in order to get more exploration done on each mission?
CDR: No, I think you ought to go a longer time on EVA. each We felt badly, sort of, that we got shut off the other day, although we didn't have the data in real time, nor did we have the agree- ment with the ground, that we weren't going to go past the _ hours. But we had 6 hours worth of consumables and we'd gotten out early on the second EVA. And as far as being tired or any- kept on going: we hustled to get back Just to make our B-hour deadline. And I think that the big problem is getting suited up and getting unsuited when you get back in. Doing the work outside _ easy. Once you step down the ladder, you're on your way. And I think what you should do is get a long-term PLS$. _,d, if you have a 3-day I_4,you have a PLSS thet'11 stay out for 8 or 9 hours and some Way to give the guy a drink of water ana r_kvbe a shot of food. And he can sit down and take a little siesta out there for a half an hour in the middle of it. And he can do an 8-hour day work out there. And that's the big, the big- thing is ge+ .lng it all on and getting out and getting it all off and putting it away when you get back in. Tape lh_/12
CMP: I think there's another significant problem Pete i) didn't mention. That's the amount of dirt that you bring back in the spacecraft with you. Both Pete and Al, although they had been in the LM for a considerable length of time before they command got back into the module, still brought back a tremendous, Just a tremendous amount of dirt and dust in their clothing and on their persons, and I think if you're going to work in environment that for any length of time, you're really going to have to tackle this problem of keeping clean.
CC: Roger. Thank you. That was a good one. Ques- tion number 12. For future lunar explorations, is a geologist a desirable member of the crew? And surface what sort of transportation would you recommend?
CDR: Well, you can go pretty good on your feet; i can now. tell you that right I guess we ran almost a mile out there without giving it too much thought. Certainly, I think a geologist should go on thetrip. I'11 tell you one thing, though, it took every bit of knowledge I had getting that baby down there in the right place. That was no easy task and I think - As a matter of fact, we discussing were that earlier today; I'm a big advocate of the LLTV. I think that was a tre- mendous help to me, and I - Certainly, that's been my profession and it took everything I had to get that LM down in one piece. I think that we got some things to work out on that that'11 make those tasks easier, and I think that the idea is to get the transportation system worked out and then take the necessary people to go. There's no doubt that a geologist can do a better Job than I can; I'm _ot a geologist.
CC: Roger, Pete. This is the last question now. up Millions of people who sta_ed late one night last week are wondering what happened to that TV camera, anyway.
CDR: Well, Jerry, we really don't know what happened to it. All I know is you told me you were get- ting a picture and then I didn't pay any more attention to it until I head you tallying with Al, _nd we don't know what happened to the camera; but we have it on board. We brou_oht it back with us., and whatever is _,rong with it, ) they'11 find out and have it fixed so that they have good _W fcr 13. Tape lhh/13
CC: Roger, Pete. That covers all the questions we have. You got any general-nature little goodies you'd like to show us or talk about?
CDR: Well, I Just - is - is George Low down there, by any chance?
CC: Pete, he doesn't seem to be in the MOCR or in the viewing room, but we know he's listening.
CDR: Okay, well, he could probably see it later, but he sent us a letter about not having a certain passenger aboard the spacecraft; sl_d, unfortu- nately, he is aboard the spacecraft, and we Just wanted to show it to George so that he could write the proper letter to allow him to have made the flight.
CDR: I've got something to say. Pete, Dick, and I spent - huh?
CC: Roger. You found him,
CDR: We sure did. He was in the food locker.
CC: Is he fat ?.
CDR: He's very fat.
CC: Go ahead, Al.
CC: Pete, Dick, and I spent a couple of years getting ready for this mission, both backing up Apollo 9 and working on this one. We spent a lot of time sitting around thinking about what our chances were of actually getting to the Moon and landing there and coming back home. Every one of these space missions boils down, as you know, Jerry, boils down to about three big things. One, you got to have trained people that operate the spacecraft and bhat operate on Earth as flight controllers, and we felt pretty good about that. We've been training hard; we've worked with the flight controllers and we knew they had. You got to have a good set of procedures to work by and people like Bill Kindle and the men that work with him, they've spent many long hours and a beck of a lot of effort developing them. So, we were pretty happy about that too. And that leaves the hardware; the machinery that's got to work; the Saturn V and the command module and the I24, and that was our sort of big unknown. We knew there were millions and millions of pa_ts in here, and it doesn't take very many parts to go bad before you can - yo_ can abort a lunar mission. It's a long chain of events, a.ndany one of them can shoot you down m_d cause you to come back home early without making it. We, of course, eo-ldn't walk around and cheek all the parts on any of these things; we don't ever know that much about it. We did know the people that worked on it, though, people like Jim ttarrington at the Cape, and Buzz Hello there, and Chuck Tringali, our team leader, and a lot of others that I didn't mention right then. We kind of felt pretty good about the fact that they Mere handling the gear. We're on the way home now; we'11 be back tomorrow, and every bit of this machinery has worked beautifully. We've had a couple of small failures, but none of the equip- ment that we worried about has shown anything but perfect performance. The fuel cells, for example, are Just perking along, Just as beauti- fully as they can, been putting out 20 amps apiece and holding their own Just perfectly. I think this is a fantastic tribute to the people that designed this equipment, and the people '_ that built it, and the people down at the Cape that checked it out. I'm pretty proud of the Apollo 12 mission. We got everything we were supposed to do done. I hope that all of those people there, that had anything to do with this hardware, that built it, that designed it, or that checked it out, feel as proud about this mission as I do. down here when I say that we're all darn proud of it ourselves. I think all of our little mascots - Snoopy and BC and the rest of them - have really done their Jobs well in helping us to keep the mission before the people and keep everybody motivated.
CDR: We got one last thing to show you and then we'11 close.
CC: Pete, while you're making preparations, the fum_ly's here in the MOCR viewing you.
CDR: Good. lh4/15 Tape
CC: We got you on the big, big screen.
CDR: Hey, great. Tell them we'11 be home in about a week.
LMP: We can call tomorrow. wrote
CDR: We a little inscription over the FPAI and signed it - Roger.
CC: Try focusing in just a little bit. We can "Yankee almost read it. It says Clipper witL Intrepid in tow -
CDR: No, it says, "Yankee Clipper sailed with Intrepid to the Sea of Storms, Moon, November 14, 1969."
CC: Roger; we can read it now. Thanks.
CC: And we copy the signatures. We'11 be talking to you tomorrow morning.
CC: Roger. %:e'11 be seeing you.
CMP: Tally-ho, good night.
CC: Roger. We got all that state vector for you. Would you like to Just load it in the IR slots? Or do you want to take it the way it is?
CDR: I don't know; is it any different than the one I've already got?
CC: It is a little different.
CMP: Jerry, I'11 take it anywhere you want to send it to up here (laughter). There's plenty of electric ... the P23 slot would do. I/_
CC: Okay. We'11 Just put it 'n the slots and preserve the P23 for now. Page 1022 .)
CMP: Okay. You can stuff it into any slot you want to.
CC: Roger, babe.
CC: 12, Houston for PTC this time. Disable Bravo and Charlie.
CC: 12, Houston. We're going to have a MCC7 PAD for you and an entry PAD, and then we'11 - these are preliminary PADs which will be updated later.
CMP: That'_ _hat we'd like to hear, that entry PAD.
CDR: Stand by, Jerry. We've got to get a couple of books; we may even have to manufacture a couple of PADs.
CDR: Go ahead with that preliminary P30 PAD, Jerry, and I'11 copy it down.
CC: Stay by just a second, Pete, we're still scratch- lng it out.
CC: Apollo 12, Houston. POO and ACCEPT, and we'11 start the uplink.
CC: Here she comes. maneuver midcourse
CC: 12, Houston. t have your PAD, 7, ready. RCS/G&N;
CC: Roger. Midcourse 7. NOUN 47 is 25036; HA; NA, 241:21:53.33; NOUN 81: minus 0006.0, all zips, plus 0Ob0.2; roll, pitch, and yaw are all zips; 310, all zir _ NOUN 44 is NA; :IA: DELTA V T 0006.1, 0.13, 0006.1; sextant, i1, 241.4, 39.7; boresight, 044, up 01.3, left 5.0; the r:-st is NA. Comments: Sirius and Rigel for GDC align; ] roll is 336; pitch, 262; yaw, 357; ullage is four · quads, plus X; under "other," we assume entry IMU alignment. Over. Tape lh4/17
CDR: Okay, Jerry. 25036; NA; NA; 241:21:53.33; minus 0006.0, all zips, plus 0000.2; 000; 310, 000; N_; NA; 0006.1; 0.13, 0006.1; 11; 241.4, 39.7; 044, up 01.3, left 5.03 Sirius and Rigel the stars; 336, 262, 357, four quads; plus X and assumes entry IMU alignment.
CC: We'11 have your entry PAD in Just a couple of minutes.
CDR: Okay. We're ready when you are.