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CC: Roger. consider. number 1 at 119:30: we have got a Now P52 IMJ realignment which we need to slip in ahead -. -__..- of the P23 sightings, and that will be an option 3 !SEFSMAT.
LMP: Roger. Okay. Some of the folks in sitting back and looking at the TV business have some ideas about things they would like to see tried with the filters. And I would like to read you what they have here and let you think about it; and in the next 10 hours, you can decide whether or not you think it is worth the effort. Basically, they would like to try using a vhole different series of filters - -
UNKNOWN: Okay, Ken. I got something to write on. Was that .P52 at 18:30 or 19:30?
CC: l.19:30.
LMP: Okay. I'm ready to copy on !FV.
CC: okay * Before you copy, let me read it all through to you here so you vi11 get the feel for what it is ve are talking about. The title of this little epistle is "TV and Film Photography Correlation %periment," and what they want to do is mount the TV camera with the telephoto lens on a bracket. in the rendezvous window and take a TV picture of the earth through the red and blu+ filters, lminute per filter; that means red and blue filters individually. Then they would like to take TV picture cf the earth through through a the red, in this case, the 25 Alfa filter combined -. vith the polarizing filter. Rotate the polarizing I filter through 360-degree increments, again 1 minute Then they'd like to take a TV picture per position. of the moon vith the polarizing filter at 360-degree I moon-rotation increments and again, : minute per position. And to go with this, we would like 5; have Hasselblad pictures.
LMP: One minute.
CC: Okay. I am standing by.
LMP: Are those - when you were talking aboc-t'pictures through the polarizing filter, is that the TV pictures through the polarizing filter? cc That's affirmative. All above was 'TJ. okay. Now the only thing - the only problem here is it's darn near impossible to aim that television camera ; the field of view is so narrow that it took three men and a boy ug here to get the thing pointed in the right direction. And we tried using cheving gum for a sight and everything else, and let me tell you that the odds of getting that thing in the earth is pretty smali. I think we weren't too clever in our ground
CC: Okay. For one callup as to how to point the spacecraft. thing I think we can do that a lot better next time now that we have stumbled through it once. I agree \ with you - - r --. . . ._. --i--
UNKNOWN: It's not the spacecraft; it's not the spacecraft that's hard to point, it's the camera. The bracket has sufficient slump in it that it can take the camera out of field of view when configured thrcllgh the window. And it took a lot of microadjustments with a lot of coaching from the ground to get the thing in, and it was a real tough job. So I think you ought to take all this in mind; if you could possibly use the wide angle, you might be better off.
CC: Okay. I understand what you are saying now. I'-1 run that back by the TV guys and see what they have to say about that. In conjunction with the above, they wanted to take some Hasselblad pictures of the earth through the rendezvous window with the red and blue filter and black and white film, and then again through the polarizing filter, and this,is ail going to be used in order to try and correlate the !l!V and the regular film photography. So if you think it a try, I'11 run this by Jack and the TV cats and see if they would like.to get something out of it vith the wide angle, and we can talk about it a little later.
UNKNOWN: Okay. Another thing to keep in mind is that we haven't si-en the moon - we didn't see a11 the uay out ) and we rarely see it going back. Ue have seen it once since we left, but we have uar.euvered the wrong way from a sighting attitude to the shortest way to mc; and to go from an earth view to a lunar view will take quite a bit of and some RCS. time So you might keep that in mind, too. think about it and what its implications to the flight plan might be, and I'11 run this wide angle and comment about the moon back by and see which sections they think would be most appropriate. okay. On the EMS scroll, Frank wanted us to verify the order that he could expect to see the entry profile, and the first profile that comes up is labelled "Nonexit Number 2" and that is the short- range high-speed entry. The second thing that will come up is entitled "The 3500 Mile" irhich i; also high-speed entry, but it is the one you wo'lld use in event we go to the longer entry rznges. Then the third profile will be "Nonexit Entry Number 1," and it will be followed by a forth 3509 rile. SO you have four entry profiles. Numbers 1 and 3, as you come to them, are the short ranges, and numbers 2 and 4 are the long-range scrolls. On coldsoak, I think we talked about what we're going to do there, but somewhere inside of about an hour, ~'11 want to get into the coldsoak business. lie certainly don't want to do it at 12. Talking to the trajectory vhat they thought about water boiling - people - - ! ’ t-:
LMP: Let me ask you one thing then. Do you want a and if we don't do it in 12 hours, it is not real clear where the coldsoak takes place or where you turn on the secondary water boiler. In looking through the eniry checklist tonight, we didn't find a place for that.
UNKNOWN: clear that you need the cold soak? Ue kind of figured on sometime prior to SEP bringing up the secondary J3VAP, and also having the primary at that point sometime prior to that date on your suggestion.
CC: Okay. We're talking about doing that like an hour prior to SEP; but in the pre-SRP check, one of the things we power down was the secondary loop. And they won't need to turn it back.
UNKNOWN: Ye do that to save - -
CC: Right. We're doing that to keep our power profile where we want it. And then we're going to be turn- ing it back on sometime prior to entry. And the time to turn it on in entry, of course, isn't specifiec' because as you turn it on, the voltages show that they can hack it.
UNKNOWN: Hopetilly. right after separation.
CC: That sounds like a real good place. Okay- I’m sure we're going to discuss that one a 1itLle bit more, Bill. But right now those are the kind of things we're talking about doing. Ad on the high gain, there is still a lot of discussion about !; E L’ Page as to what - exactly what we saw and what it And I think it is a little too early to means. tell you anything about that one.
UNKNOWN: I think that's what they hashed out cc the ground, Ken.
UNKNOWN: we all agree that we don't uant to try experimenting with it if we really don't know what it is we're looking at.
LMP: Roger. I've written down some numbers here that I hope will be helpful.
UNKNOWN: Fine.
UNKNOWN: I'11 give them to you in the debriefing.
LMP: I don't think it's any great big deal, because the antenna switching is not hard at all and the is -a. required to work; if it doesn't work as advertised, at least it works in a reasonable manner.
UNKNOWN: at 120 hours for,the next water dump, Bill.
LMP: Ken, is it my imagination, or do you have the music running?
CC: I'm sorry; say again.
UNKNOWN: Is it my imagination, or do you have the music running? - -r- - --
CC: I think it's your imagination.
LMP: Uh-oh. Don't let the doctors hear that.
CC: It's too late; he already heard you:
UNKNOWN: must be getting that detached feeling.
LMP: Apollo 8, Houston.
CC: Go ahead, 8. and blue filter shots of the moon haven't crept into this TV test. We have got red and blue filter shots of the moon, 50 you need not vorry about that.
UNKNOWN: ‘I don't think that would throw it away. I think we're trying to come up with something definitive so that postflight will have some real good data to compare with what we do on the ground for futl*re vork. I would like to have you go over and take a look at the battery Charlie, please.
LMP: I'm on my way. ?x.P Ratter-y Charlie, that's about 36.8 volts.
CC: C'+, 26.8. Thank you.
UNKNOWN: Also with respect to the 'I'! test, I would think that we could probably get a pretty good handle on the operation just by taking red and blus and polarizing shots of the earth indepecdent of the !I%', but within the same time fra?le or a? about the same range ve had the TV last time. -- -YI.-... - _I 1: - That's what - the second portion of this
CC: Okay. really is asking that we do this with the Hasselblad, and again we won't be using the red and blue filters so we have our baseline.
LMP: Taking a picture of the earth with the Hasselblad is no big deal because it does swing by the earth now and then. But trying to get the TV and the Jiasselblad 411 pointed to the earth at the same time would really be tough.
CC: Roger. I don't think that it's that time-critical, but I'11 ask. *
CC: Go ahead, 8.
UNKNOWN: to hold up on the LiOH change for about a half an hour. .The PC02 reading is low, It's right and we don't want to wake up the CDR. by his feet. cc Good headwork. Apollo 8, Houston. Go ahead, Houston.
CC: Okay, Biil. We are coming up on-the P52 and then the P23 sightings, and there is some concern that if we just go directly to P23 attitude that we are liable to overheat quad Charlie. So we would like to have you maneuver to place the minus X-axis towards the sun n&i. Pnd I have some gimbal angles here for you. And if we take it over there and point the minus X at the sun between now and the time we have to start into the alignment, then the P23 business - we will tend to coldsoak Charlie, and then we will be able to go through the P23 operations without worrying about the temperatures.
LMP: Okay. Give me them.
UNKNOWN: Roll 183.3, pitch 136.7; yaw 13.5. cc 183 137
LMP: Right. roll, pitch, and 14 yaw.
LMP: Actually, we worked out up here on Lovell's slide rule and got 183.25 roll.
LMP: Houston, you wanted to go to this coldsoak attitude prior to the P52, did you not?
CC: We would like to go to the coldsoak attitude now.
UNKNOWN: was to keep from heating up quad D, was it?
CC: Negative. That's quad Charlie.
LMP: Roger, Houston. Apollo 8.
CC: Roger. The l%?3 that is coming up next - we will vant to do a water dump as soon as ve are through with that P23. We'11 dump down to 30 percent, and this ought to be the last dump of the mission. Over. Okay. You think that ve will end up generatiq enough water to fill her up prior to entry.
LMP: Okay. We are at that attitude you gave us, so we stopped the roll a little bit short. We're more like 150 degrees roll right now.
CC: Okay, Bill. On that water dump, we expect to have 90 percent.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. Co. i Was there any constraint you for the P23. vanted, for length of time you wanted to stay in this attitude?
CC: Negative, Bill. When you are finished with - I i F23; ve vill go back into PTC.
UNKNOWN: Okay. We are going to maneuver for P23 now. __-- _~__ I-..--..,..* -u_x - . -.. We are watching your tank pressures.
LMP: Okay. Thank you. We will do an optical first and then do the P23.
CC: Okay. We are handing over to Madrid
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. in about 15 seconds. Over.
LMP: Roger. hd good morning, Jerry, or good after- or whatever it is. noon,
CC: Good morning, Jim. It's about 6:30 in the mcming.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. Row 50 you read? Loud and clear. How us?
CC: Roger; the same.-
CDR: Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8. Moming, Frank. Looks like we have lost the transducer on the primaF/ radiator OUT tempera- ture. We are showing an off scale high. The rest of the loop looks real fine, though. Wnen you get a chance, would you take a look at it Over. and see if you're in the ssme position.
CDR: Which one is it?
CC: Primary radiator OUT temperature.
CDR: Ours is &owing 100 off scale high, also.
UNKNOWN: Houston, Apollo 8. Over. --- -_ - * I
UNKNOWN: Roger. About this RAD output temp: does your telemetry show that it happened all of a sudden?
CC: That's affirmative, Bill.
LMP: Okay. I'm on malfunction 23, step 2. It looks to me like there is a small possibility we might be boiling, but I doubt it. So you just want to hop over to step 4 and consider that a closed case.
CC: Roger. We consider it closed.
CC: Roger. Frank, all your primary loop tempera- of ture readings look just fine. Your EXAP IN temperatures are normal and indicate you are -getting normal mixing.
CC: Roger. For the P23 attitude that you are in right nov, your quad tank temperatures are better than we expected. We're still monitor- ing, and it's looking good.
CDR: Thank you. After we complete 'this, do you X:vant us to return to the FTC attitude? Is that correct? ,. -. cc That is affirmative, Frank.
CDR: Would you have someone get up the gimbal angles for us to point the X-axis at the earth at the TV time, please?
CDR: Also, Jerry, I would like to know our range and velocity at that time. at TV time.
CC: ahead, Houston. Apollo 8. ' CDR
CC: Roger. At hours, your altitude is 97 413, your velocity is - -
CDR: Stand by just a minute.
CDR: At 128 hours, you say?
CC: Roger. That's TV time.
CC: Your altitude IS 9 513; velocity is 6072; roll 58, is 1 degree, pitch is yaw 0,
CC: You are welcome.
CC: I just got a newspaper, Frank. I vi11 go tbrough it and pick out the news items for you. -.
UNKNOWN: That will be great. We're just eating breakfast. How are you having your eggs this morning?
LMP: Bacon. All except Lovell. He's having eggs Benedict.
CC: It figures. That Timber Cove crew, you know, they -
CC: That's the gourmet crowd.
CMP: Silk-stocking set.
CDR: Jerry, in doing these P23's, we were just about over Africa most of the time. At least, it vas in view; nice weather over there this time of year.
CC: Roger. You want to go down there? Do a little hunting.
CDR: Jerry, Jim Lovell just checked the P30, P21, and says you are right, 97 800 miles.
CC: Roger. Thank you, Jim.
UNKNOWN: ougbt to have these computers flight qualified cc in another couple of missions.
UNKNOWN: Rouston. Co. cc ~~0320 was IKC 6 determined for exactly t
CMP: Roger. I.22 hours, vhen you came up with that six-tenths of a foot per second? \ ‘\,
CC: Roger. Jim, at exactly 122 we were figuring 0.5.
UNKNOWN: Roger. I'11 try it again now at the same time using the P37 with MA. The last time we did it, before the last sightings, I got 2 feet per second. I'm going to see what I come up with this time.
CC: Roger. -. Page1 a,
CC: Apollo 8, this is Houston. We are ready for you to start your waste water amp anytime now. could we have a crew status report?
CDR: You may, we had a good night sleep. Everyone slept at least 7 hours yesterday, and we have just finished breakfast, drunk a lot of water, and I think we are in very good shape; just used the exerciser.
CDR: What would you like to know about?
CC: That's about it. Are you ready for scme morning news?
CC: Okay. There is really not a whole lot in the news this morning. Things are kind of quiet. I guess the biggest news is tne accident rate - the holiday deaths - which is certainly not very pleasant news, but we had 233 people killed na- tionally, and 9 of them were in Youston on Christ- mas Eve, ma Christmas. In the world news, the families made the news again. This is Associ- : ated Press: "The families of Apollo 8 crew sent a Christmas message to Navy &mander Lloyd _91 Bucher, Captain of the Pueblo crew, released USS this week by Iiorth Korea. The message, addressed to Commander and Mrs. Bucher, at San Diego Navy hospital read 'You have been in our thoughts end ,our prayers. Your reunion has brought great joy into our heart this Christmas day. Our best to you personally and to all of the families under your conmand'." And it was signed "Families of the crew of Apollo 8 ." Space cfficials said that the message had been suggested and written by Mrs. Frank Barman.
CC: Let see. Elsewhere in the national news, the newlyweds, David and Julie Eisenhower, came away from their secret honeymoon hideaway to have Christmas dinner with President-elect Nixon and l&e family. In lVew York city, the world's busi- est harbor was reduced to almost complete inac- tivity Christmas day, due to a 5-day old long- shoreman strike and a rare hiatus in shipping schedule. 100 ships arrived or left the harbor. Ferries, running on reduced holiday schedule, provided the only marine activity.
CC: Here is an interesting little feature item that It seems that up in is kind of good to hear. Ann Arbor, Michigan, they have a new youth gang. It's called the Gilnet Gang. It roams the streets of Ann Arbor, acting in secret, and sometimes by- passing the law. They call themselves the Guerillas Some of the things they have done is, for Good. painted a bridge that was covered with obsceni- ties. They painted it one night. A condemned house with - it's popular with neighborhood chil- &en, but dangerous, was boarded up. Downtown planters unfilled because of a debate over which group was responsible, business'or government, were filled with flowers. A hedge, thought to at busy intersrztion was be hampering vision, trimmed, and the owner was angered. Trash along a portion of the Huron River was picked up. Mem- bers of the gang are anonymous teenagers who ask for no individual recognition. Their aim is to slice red tape, to get things - good things in their opinion - done. The organization has a . faint religious overtone. 1:'s sort of an ecu- said an assistant professor at menical group, the University of Michigan who acts as an informal sounding board for the gang's ideas. The name is from St. Peter, the Fisherman's Net. And it is remote enough not to be identified with any particular church. There is a thread 3f Robin Rood running through this thirg, said their -. a0 Tape Page 4. teacher, who also prefers to remain anonymous. A lot of their activities are extra-legal. When the system bogs down, they directly administer rather than go through the red tape chan- good, The gang is made up of about 55 high- nels. school kids, boys and girls, and there's another ~CI or 59 who belonged to the gang before they graduated. The idea for the gang evolved from a trip to Detroit slum area, where a church group - youth group noted the way that street gangs operate. They were impressed with the methods of operation and decided to org.&se for somewhat different reasons. "It was the chance to do things for the pure sake of giving," said the gang's advisor. news and the features is concerned. On the sport page, Hank Stram of the Kansas City Chiefs was named as the APL coach of the year. This is the second time for him in three seasons. The voting was done by an Associated Press panel of 30 sports writers snd sportscasters, three from each city. The nearest one to him was Weeb &bank. Other coach's that received votes were Sid Gilman of San Diego, and Lou Sabin of Denver. Ps for the Shriners College All Star game yesterday, the -- 'i c
UNKNOWN: like they were evenly matched.
CC: For the big Astro Blue Bonnet game, the big bas-
UNKNOWN: Simpson; he was named player - - \ Foundation. Woody Hayes, as I told you yester- was named coach of the year. say,
CDR: Roger. a We concur on that midcourse
UNKNOWN: Jerry, this is Jim. 6.2 of a foot per second - is what we get. .
CC: Real fine, Jim. Do you just want to turn off your radios and come back without us?
LMP: HO. We can't read out the amazing erasable mem- ory if ve have to go into PROGRAM 01 again. bughter)
UNKNOWN: I'd tried to get us back on the lauxh pad a little bit earlier.
CC: Prank, one other little item in the news here, I thought might be interesting is - . Sttrnd by. Apollo 8,
CDR: 00 ahead. You are loud and clear.
CC: okay * I got interrupted there for a minute. Bob Hope is back out in 'riet Ram again with his troups, One little name in doing a great job as usual. the news story here is from the USS New Jersey. Bob Hope joked from atop of a hugh gun turret yesterday - or Wednesday - to delighs the 1500 men aboard the battle ship Rev Jersey on its 20th - -- Christmas entertaining US troops abroad. Hope and his 27 member troop entertained the New Jersey seamen after attending a Christmas mass aboard the carrier Hancock, both off Viet Nsm. "This must be the biggest Cris Craft in the world," Hope told the seamen. "It looks like Wake Island with a rudder." "I think it was nice of them to take the ship out of mothballs just to give me a 21-gun salute," he said. Hope joked while stand- ing on one of the ships 16 inch gun turrets. 'Ihe sailors were particularly impressed by a squad of long legged girls who came aboard with Hope including Actress Ann-Margaret and Miss World. Did you say that was his 20th trip ever there at or overseas at Christmas time? Christmas time,
CC: That's right, it's the 20th time he has been over - overseas for Christmas with the troops. He's as old as Jack Benny. Hey, you can turn off the water dump no---
CDR: We're in the process,-or as we say in the aero- space business: that's in work.
CC: Roger. You do good work.
CC: That other aviator that's going around the world, Max Conrad vith his light plane - he spent Chrlst- mas day in the Antarctics - at Puento Aranes'in Chili; he's waiting for good weather so he carp -. : continue his flight down to the South Pole. He hopes to get around the world. He is going around both Poles, and he's going to fly from Palmer to Byrd, from Byrd to the South Pole, and then return hme to the United States by way of New Zealand, Australia, and Hawaii.
UNKNOWN: better take some No Doze with him.
UNKNOWN: I tried to talk Frank into the same trip.
UNKNOWN: You can give him a weather report from Apollo 6. The South Pole was really clobbered - or at least it vas the other day.
CC: I don't imagine there are many alternates down there.
UNKNOWN: think so.
CDR: We have some pretty clear weather up here.
CC: No fog, huh?
CDR: Aot outside.
CDR: Actually, it's snowing outside right now with that waste water dump that Bill just did.
CC: Roger. Does it look a little bit like Christmas?
CDR: Right. i
CDR: Jerry, do you have a decision about what we are i going to do about this next midcourse? i.
CDR: Okay. I just wanted to make sure officially we'11 scrub MCC 6? --1-e_ . . . . _--. _.__^.^ ,_ ...--I--. . . _ _.“_ ----
CC: Affirmative. CDR I guess - Jim said that was already official. I vas sleeping at the time. I didn't hear it.
CC: Oksy. Frank, by the way, how do you feel about your ENS now? You feel like you've got all the answers to the little funnies you saw earlier? It seems to be very sensitive to jerks, or sep- aration. a avitch throwing anomaly and if you play it by the numbers and then slow and deliberate you will be okay?
CDR: Yes. Ken, I'm getting razzed up here because I said it was sensitive to jerks.
CC: (Laughter) We thought of that, too, down here.
CDR: Yes, I figured you did. mP I told Ken last night at separation after TLI, when we separated from the S-IVR, we got a nice bang out of the pyros and the KMS j*wped over 100 feet per second.
CDR: Jerry, do you want to - I've got it in the flight plan to start charging our battery E. Do you want that started at 100 nov also? cc Affirmative, Frank. CDR Okay. _- - 4-N Page10
CDR: We're starting it.
CDR: And we're happy to report the earth is getting larger.
CC: Roger, that's corrforting. Looks like you are going to make earth instead of Venus, huh?
CDR: Right. has got a LM vector update for you and a CNC time update. Over.
CDR: Okay. W+'11 go to POO. POO in ACCEPT. 8, plete. The computer is yours. You can go to BLOCK.
CDR: Roger; BLNK. since we are not going to do that MCC. Is that all right?
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. Gn.
CDR: We are proceeding with the chlorination.
CC: Roger. ! Page11 cc Apollo 8, Houston. BIOMED switch to CENTER, please.
CDR: Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one. CDR MARK.
CMP: Old joke. .-__II ~.. -
CDR: Okay, thank you, we are starting the P23.
UNKNOWN: ahead. 8,
CC: Apollo this is Houston. We have lost all CNC data on you. The last data we had showed a high and middle gimbal angle. Over. BO. How come you lost those CRC data.
CDR: I'm fine.
CC: I think maybe it was just your movement - movement out of FTC.
CDR: I see, fine. Thank you, it was high. I was watching it though.
CC: okay. We have data now.
CDR: We are noticing our quad A helium tank is start- ing to go up again. You got any ideas on that.
CC: Yes. We are watching it to, Frank. So far, it's still okay and we are talking about it.
CDR: 00 ahead. like we may have bothered you up unnecessarily on --.-1__ - Tt appears to be no problem as best this thing. as we can tell. We got a few of the minds together talking about it, and it's been down rated quite a bit. Also there - the folks down here monitoring the P23 suspect that Jim is shooting on star number 22 rather 02, so he may be having-some problems.
CMP: Oh no. We've changed; we are on star 02 on the moon.
CC: Frank, I may have to add'some names to my chicken list.
CDR: About what?
CC: Helium tank A, quad A.
CDR: Roger. I just don't want to be the one that proves the fracture mechanics people are right.
CDR: This attitude is going to have us right square into the sun, too.
CC: Apollo 8, Houstcn. We are going to need some data from your past P23 marks. We missed some items, and so don't put it away and when you finish this next P23 we'11 get It all together. - .-.._ _.-._-. _-: .
CC: Roger. Got some information for you on this PTC that we'11 be going to right after this next P23 exercise. We'd like you this time to try the nose north attitude, that's pitch of 180, and a yaw of 315, and also we'd like to give another look at this mode free type of FTC and we think maybe we'11 get a little bit of spin stabilization if we try it at 0.3 degrees per second on the roll rate rather thar. 0.1. So if you figure on doing &at. at 124:30 ~2'3.1 see what kind of information we can get out of it. I'11 be happy to do it, but I think it's play- ing games.
CC: Roger, Prank, you're burning right now 1.4 pounds per hour with attitude hold in pitch and yaw. 'We're kind of interested to see if 0.3 degrees .per second will reduce your RCS usage due to spin stabilization. Yes, I know. . I predict that it will not. Okay. Jerry, I'm a little concerned about the tempera- ture. We're getting kind of warm in here, and also the evaporator outlet temperature is up around 45 degrees. Do you have any trend that - we're getting less efficient operation of the radiators?
CC: Prank, RECCM says everything looks nominal down here. You might try a change in your cabin temperature heat exchanger there.
CDR: No, we don't have the fans on, but what we have done is put up a window shade. That seems to help it. We've been getting a lot more sun in the cabin this way.
CC: Roger. We'11 keep a sharp eye on things and keep you posted.
CDR: Roger. I don't mind playing games because, you guys have been very nice in the five and a haif days. If you want to play games in the next half hour, we'11 play.
CC: Roger, Prank.
CDR: Jim is trying this set with the eye relief optics so we can give you some information on that.
CDR: I think it would be very difficult to extrap- olate anything that you are getting out of this bit business to a L&l-command module com- bination, because the spacecraft handles quit? a bit different just with the change of fuel load, including the difference in drifting off aa roll. that, too. We agree with your point of view on that one. I think this is more of a curiosity thing than anything at all. CMP
UNKNOWN: think it's fine. No sweat. We don't have anything else to do here for about another 10 hours. cc
CMP: Jerry, what I'm kind of curious about is the fuel usage. Now with P23 and what we were doing, we have a lot more fuel. 5 cc
UNKNOWN: we'11 take a look at that fuel usage bit. Right now, the trend looks like it is getting better as we would expect with a lighter weight. cc We'11 try to get a little more definitive for you here. fuel usage on that SPS engine though, because we're sure getting a lotof miles per gallon out of it.
CC: Roger, Prank. Frank, we'11 enter you in the Shell road test on that. we don't have any TCP in it, or what is If we'd that, TCP? Yes. That's the problem. had that, we would have probably used only half the fuel. - ~~
CC: Oh, you mean Platformate?
CDR: That's right, Platformate.
CDR: If you will get the people to spread out one of those banners around the target area, we'11 try to break it, you know, and coast through it.
CC: okay. We'11 call some of the paper companies and see if they can find a roll big enough.
CDR: It won't take a big roll, just about 30 feet.
UNKNOWN: Onboard NAV.
CDR: Tell the doctors that we put William to sleep.
CC: Roger. You won't leave any scars w-ill'you?
CDR: No. No, he's got his tape recorder with him.
CDR: Bill said to call Valerie and have her to rewind the tape recorder - his tape recorder at home.
CC: I hate to tell you this, Frank, beta-se Jim probably won't even be able to wear his CORM carrier anymore, but that last set ,of marks put your state vector right on top of the MSFN state vector.
CMP: Come off that, Jerry. Come on; you promised.
CMP: I'11 get you that bottle of brandy when I get home, Jerry.
CDR: Maybe we can get him to go to PROGRAM 01 again today, too.
CC: Roger. That sounds good.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. Also, on the flight plan for l24:30, we would like for you to run an O2 purge on the fuel cells.
CDR: Hey, Jerry. We uere going over the checklist on entry here, you know?
CC: Roger, Frank. .
CDR: I've got a question. Is John Harpold around?
CC: Roger. He is listening.
CDR: John, I can't remember. Is the lift vector up head-down or - -
UNKNOWN: Jerry, I'm beginning to worry up here.
CC: Roger. It depends on which way your nose is pointing.
UNKNOWN: TouchC.
CDR: You might note for the people at MIT that the nex% series of stars will be shot by the master navigator with a space helmet on and long eye relief eyepieces.
CC: Roger. That ought to cut his speed down a little bit.
UNKNOWN: Right.‘ --._~ -
CC: Rank, while you are talking about the entry checklist, this cold soak - have you decided exactly where you want to do it there prior to C!Iltrg?
CDR: Well, I understood that EECOM talked that over with Bill, and we do it 1 hour prior to entry. Ue'11 do it wherever you say is the best.
CC: -Y. One hour is fine. It's just a matter of tiding time in the time line to do it. CBR I think we can initiate it 1 hour before SEP. cc Okay. Fine. Sounds like a winner.
CMP: Really got all zeroes uith that helmet on.
CC: Roger. We just noticed that.
UNKNOWN: Jim's going to leave the helmet off no% for the rest of them, I think; it gets a little anoxic in there. These helmets don't have face plates, and ye have a difficult time breathing with that on. ---. ~-- _,... -_.. -.--.., I __ ._.-.._ ! ’ :.! .- CDR Okay. Jerry, that completes the P23. Did you have something else you want us to do now? You wanted to check on something from the last SEP.
CC: Roger, Frank. We need to get some numbers that ue weren't able to copy down here. Stand by just one. Frank, on your first P23, we missed three marks on star number 2. We missed mark number 3 trunnion. CDR Okay. %ree trunnion is 05650.
CC: Okay, 05650. Then star number 1, mark 2. We need the trunnion on that one, too.
CDR: 04216.
CC: And on star number 1, mark 3, the DELTA-R and DELTA-V.
CDR: DELTA-R is 00006, DELTA-V 00001.
CC: Roger. Four balls 6 and four balls 1. Okay. Frank, your FTC attitude is pitch 180, yaw 315, and roil rate 0.3 degrees per second. The reason for wanting to point it north is not be- c&&se we are concerned at all about any chrzges due to venting, there's been, as we can tell, no effects on yolrr trajectory by venting. We just want to try out that direction on it. I.
CDR: That's fine. We are going to stay in for about i two more seconds while Jim takes the pictures through the sextant for the optics people. -. _ . . _ _._. -
CC: Okay,.Frank. And then, also, we are looking for a fuel cell 0 purge when you get a chance.
CDR: That's right. At - I got the word now; it's supposed to be at 124:30.
CDR: Okay. We'11 do it.
CC: Roger. For your P37 that's coming up that you are going to run, use a midcourse 7 time of l44:46. Also just a little note here, the trajectory is looking so good, it looks like you can make the corridor without even making a midcourse 7.
UNKNOWN: Roger. 144: 46 for the ~3'7.
CDR: Ttlank you.
CMP: Jerry, this is Jim.
UNKNOWN: We are going tc set this up for the normal FTC mode for a few minutes until Frank gets through with the - another step of the call.
UNKNOWN: Jim. you shift the BIOXD switch over to left side?
UNKNOWN: I think we ought to shift it over right now.
CC: Okay. No, they say hold it up for a little uhile.
CMP: . . . so you can see, the same data that Dr. Berry got on me in Gemini VII is also good for Frank on Apollo 8.
CC: Roger. He heard that.
UNKNOWN: Eouston, Apollo 8. - - cc Apollo 8, Houston.
UNKNOWN: Do you see that PROGRAM ALAI&l we got when we vent through P37, 1302?
UNKNOWN: I'11 run through it again and see what happens here.
CC: Roger. We're monitoring.
CC: Looks like you loaded the wrong t-me in P37, You should load 144:46 for your midcourse time; looks like.you loaded 146:46.
CMP: Okay. I'm sorry. Yes, I have it here. I wrote it down, 146:46. Okay.
UNKNOWN: I guess the best way to terminate this is by going back to POO, is that right?
UNKNOWN: Houston, Apollo 8. It looks like a plus 2.8 foot per second correction at midcourse 7. . .
CC: Roger, .JG.: -
CDR: Started the fuel cell purge, and I'm going to 183:15, and I'11 start that three-tenths of a degree per second roll stabilization test for you.
CC: Roger, Frank. Thanks.
CDR: Okay. There we are, and we are going to start . rolling now.
CC: Frank, on this free pitch and yaw, if either one of them gets outside of 15 degrees frcm the nomiml values, we'11 call it off.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. I woulti like to have the BIOMED switch left now, if you can.
CDR: Roger, it's LEFT.
UNKNOWN: .The fuel cell purged to complete, 02.
CC: Say again, Apollo 8.
UNKNOWN: O2 fnel cell purge ccmplete.
CC: Roger, thanks.
CC: Looks like you've exceeded your 15 degrees offset PTC attitude, so you can go to attitude HOLD in pitch and yaw. ,. ~___ .^_.. __._. -.l.l..- ._..,
CDR: Okay. I'11 go back to the attitude. We didn't even get wound once, aid we?
CC: Doesn't look like it. So much for spin stabil- ization.
CDR: Well, we tried that last night several times 0.5 to 0.2 degree per second.
UNKNOWN: there is the phenomena known as inertial coupling that has something to do with that, huh?
CC: Roger. That could be.
LMP: Put a bigger rudder on it.
CC: Need some feathers, Frank.
CC: Apllo 8, Houston. On the P37 comparison; using the MSFN vectors, we get a minus 1.4 on that miaO0~s e , compared to your 2.8. we ran your solutions through our computer and we also get a 2.8, so your P37 looks good. We are busy still fiddling with the vectors and comparing them and we'11 keep an eye on the difference. you though, ana say you came out with a minus 2. something.
CC: Jim, that 4 feet per second difference is worth 0.28 degrees on the flight path angle.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. --., --_ CDR Go ahead, Houston. How is your cabin temperature look-
CC: Roger, Frank. ing now?
UNKNOWN: It's getting cooler, thank you. We put those shades up, and that really helps. The primary loop down here still looks rcsl cc Okay. good, so it looks like you are in fine shape. Your battery B charge ought to be done by about 127 hours, and we think you sho*lldn't even try to charge bat- tery A, since it looks like, at entry interface, it is going to have 38 amp-hours on it.
CDR: I'11 tell Bill that. cc Okay.
CDR: How is the weather down there, Jerry?
CC: That's loua ana clear.
CDR: Cola? cc No, it's pretty balmy around here today.
CC: Yes, the temperature is about in the 70's here. It's a real nice day.
CDR: Say, Jerry, last night, Jim was saying something about turning on VHF Simplex A about 20 030 miles out. I wrote it down, but I can't seem - I can't . . .
CC: Roger, Frank. We've got it in the checklist here as right around 4 minutes - 4 hours before EI, - right after your nominal P23, P37 onboard com- parisons, KG-l, page El.
CC: Roger. We're showing some garbage on your computer. If you will hit ERROR RESET, we can clear that PROGRAM ALARM so the next one can be identified. Over.
CDR: We don't have any PROGRAM ALARM.
CC: I think this - this is a carryover from your last PROGRAM ALARM there on that P37.
CDR: Okay. ERROR REZXT. Thank you. -- 3:.
CDR: That do it?
CC: Stand by. Okay. Thank you, Frank. That did it. CDR Roger.
CC: Roger. Your battery is full; you can terminate charging. You've got 40 amp-hours on it now, and ve've got a couple of requests for data here.
CC: - - requests.
CDR: We vere just talking about that. I tell Bill stop. Okay. What are your requests?
CC: The first one is - the first time somebody is dovn in the equipment bay, ve vould like to get another reading on your RCS temperatures - those six temp meter readings - -
CC: - - and the other one is of the boys in the back - -
CDR: We just read them again.
CC: Beg your pardon?
CDR: just read the RCS thruster temperatures again, We and they are all pegged high.
CC: Okay. Good deal, Frank. The other one is - thr boys in the back room would like some time when _. -*.__ everybody is awake - if you would fire up both cabin fans for about 5 minutes, they would like to see what the DELTA temperature is on the telem- etry vhen you get the stagnation broken down and get some flov going over it. So if you can see your way clear to do that, we would like to see it same time when everybody is up.
UNKNOWN: We had that running before in the flight. Did they check it then?
UNKNOWN: early in the game, when you were cool?
CDR: Yes. When we were cool. Right.
CC: Yes. They got that data, and they were kind of in erested in seeing what it looks like when the cabin is nice and varm and the temperature indi- cator is reading on the high side, to see how the DELTA works in the other direction.
CDR: Okay. Coming on.
CDR: What else, Jerry?
CC: That's it, Frank.
CC: Another thing, Frank, is we just want to remind you that there is no charge needed on A battery.
CDR: Hey, listen, these cabin fans - one of them sounds like it's got a bad bearing. We are go- ing to turn it off. It's got a real squeal to it.
CC: Okay, Frank. -. ---i- .., “, I _ ._ ._._
CDR: Sounds like it's got something in it.
CC: That must be Bill's teddy bear.
UNKNOWN: Say'sgain. That m-st be Bill's teddy bear.
UNKNOWN: I don't know, but there is something in there.
CDR: We will try them again, one at a time, and see if we can determine which one's got the noise.
CDR: Bumber 2 is really bad. It's got a bad bearing, and it vhines like mad, so we are not going to turn it on.
UNKNOWN: cc Roger. Thank you.
UNKNOWN: not going to try number 1 either; there may have - something might have got in both of than, Jerry.
CC: Okay, Frank. That's fine.
UNKNOWN: Sounds like that MG starter of yours.
CC: I'm afraid to turn my starter on now. It's been so long. .I-- _.- .-. _.. ,. j. - Page1
CC: Apollo 8, Houston., Go.
CDR: Roger. We would leave the PTC long enough to go orient toward the earth for a TV shot to see if this TV thing is going off on 128.
CC: Roger, Frank. That is fine. Do you have the gimbal angles you need?
UNKNOWN: you. I got them earlier today.
CDR: I'd like to keep this one kind of short because ve're trying to get some sleep earlier than yesterday.
CC: Say again, Frank. You are getting pretty garbled.
CDR: How is that antenna?
CC: Loud and clear, Frank.
CDR: I said, will this be a short one? We are trying to hurry things up a little bit to see if we can get as much sleep as possible.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. Would you put the BIOMED switch on the right side now, please?
CC: Frank, do you intend to start your TV before 128?
CDR: negative; no.
CC: Roger. I-
UNKNOWN: is what you wanted, isn't it? I thought that is what it was all squared away for. Affirmative. Apollo 8, Houston. Are you planning on using the wide angle lens?
UNKNOWN: think that would be best. Okay. Jack says you want to be sure and use the red filter and the filter holder for that he. It takes a little darker filter.
CDR: Do you want to take both red filters on there or just the one for the filter holder? vill do, but might not hurt to have the other one ready, just in case.
UNKNOWN: about if we use the telephoto? It will be a little harder to focus, but it might end up a better picture.
CC: Roger, Prank. If you want to use the telephoto lens, you ought to use the same combination yau used wi~;r? out, the 25~.
UNKNOWN: Jerry.
CC: Roger, Prank. s
CDR: Ask your IECOM how many gallons of fuel we burned for.TEI, will you?
CC: Roger. In work, he's breaking out his sathotu- eter now.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. We will be handing over to Goldstone in 2 minutes. Over.
CDR: Roger, Jerry.
CC: Frank, the doctors say they are not getting anything on Bill yet. Apparently, he is not plugged up.
CDR: He is down underneath the couch getting some stuff out; he doesn't have his umbilical on. CC okay.
CDR: Tell them to look at the stuff they got yester- day. He hasn't changed at all, just as mean as ever. CC Roger. Hey, Frank, this sinulation has really been great. What do you say after these phctos we recycle back to TLI again? CDR That's fine. Bring on the backup crew.
UNKNOWN: Hey, Jerry, yesterday I tried to cycle back tc the pass and 01 was lunar.
CC: Jim, ve missed that. Say it again when you get a better antenna.
CDR: Don't blame your antenna problems on us ..- We are not reading you;
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. stand by one. _ .
CDR: Houston, you read now?
CC: Roger. clear. ma ma CDR I say, Bill will be ready in a minute; he is * cycling back and forth under the couch trying to get the TV stuff out.
CC: Okay. cc Backup crew says they are ready to go.
UNKNOWN: Great. A most fantastic voyage,
CC: Sure was.
UNKNOWN: We're .not through yet. We've still got 100 000 miles to go. You know, we kind of feel like it was all over with TRI, but we're still a long way.
CMP: Jerry, what I was saying before: I tried to hurry up the voyage home by calling up PROGRAM 01 to get us back on the PAD, but it didn't work.
CC: Well, that's the best excuse I've heard so fm,Jim.
UNKNOWN: of many.
CDR: Go ahead, Houston. 8. Apollo
CC: Roger, Frank. On TZI, you burne~n~
CC: Frank, are you going to need Jim's slide rule for that calculation?
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UNKNOWN: I got 162.
CMP: Roger. This is one of those rare occasions where Bill left his seat and I am now sitting in it, and for the first time, I can see the earth. I'm looking through his monocular; it's pretty nice.
CMP: You had a little weather today it appears.
CC: Last word from the weather guys here was that it was clear.
CMP: Well, we could see South America and Florida and through the lower part of the U.S. Looks like there is a weather front going over into the central part of the United States, lot of clouds over the northwest area. Florida is c'.ear; it looks like the east coast is pretty clear.
CC: Roger. Clear but cold.
CMP: Lot of clouds up in Canada. Maybe the geese will go home.
CDR: Jerry, we are going to turn it on and see how the picture is.
CC: Nothing yet, Frank.
UNKNOWN: Takes a while to warm up, I think.
CDR: Any luck yet, Jerry.
CC: Hot yet, Frank.
CC: We got a picture now, Frank. It's twitching.
CC: The earth is on now, Frank. How*s it look?
CC: We are seeing about half of it. You moved in the wrong direction. Okay. It's coming back, a little more. Good, now a shade toward the terminator.
CC: A little bit more toward the terminator and in the you were moving it before. same direction Right; you have got it centered right in the middle.
UNKNOWN: it away from the terminator just a bit.
CDR: Okay. You want us to wait until 128, right?
CC: Affirmative. Frank, move your camera to the right; I want to see which way the earth moves on ~4 screen.
CC: Okay. Moving your camera to the right moves tb* earth to the left on our screen. On our screen, the terminator almost parallel to the hori- is zontal direction, and the dark part is on the top. 29, then.
UNKNOWN: Okay. We will turn it back on at 1 cc Okay, Frank. 7--
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. Are you on a high-gain antenna? CDR Roger.
CC: What beam width are you on, Apollo 8?
CDR: NARROW.
LMP: This is Apollo 8. Do you read?
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. Loud and clear.
UNKNOWN: Radio check. Roger.
LMP: Houston, Apollo 8. How do you read now? Over.
LMP: Roger. We're just trying something - - 8,
CC: Apollo Houston. You are in the scan limit right now on the high-gain antenna; although you may have RARROW beam width selected, you are in To improve the situation would take a WIDE. pitch down and a yaw left, and we will have FAO check it and give you some angles if we need to change it. We just got out of the scan limit by pitching up and yawing right.
CC: Roger. You are right, Frank.
CDR: Are we still in wide band, or are we in narrow band now?
CC: We are checking. --- _ Tape 84
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. EECOM says you are in good shape now.
CC: Apollo 8, Houston. C&M check.
CC: Roger. Apollo Houston. We're getting television.
CDR: Roger. How's the picture? cc Roger. The picture is on the lower right hand of our screen. Camera should go down away from the terlninator
UNKNOWN: cc and to-the right. cc Still down and about the same place; a little worse ; now it's coming in.
UNKNOWN: you getting it now, Jerry?
CC: Roger. We've got most of it; keep moving off to the right. Good. You have it centered right now. CMP
UNKNOWN: the earth looks a little bigger to us today, not much, but it's somewhat bigger. I'm sitting over in the right hand seat now; Bill has got the TV camera; Frank is helping him >~;fi aiming it directly to hit the earth. I hope we have a good picture. Can you see the clouds? Move the terminator - correction, away from the termi- nator just a shade. At the tip of South America, there is a great swirl of clouds down there. It looks like a great storm. I wonder if you can see it. Roger. We see a large swirl just south of the terminator.
CMP: Roger. And then up to the left hand side, or towards the north, we can see the light waters around the West Indies, and we can actually see I'm looking thrcugh Bill's monocular, Florida. and I can see the various land masses, South America and the central part and southern part of the United States.
CC: Roger. Move-a little bit away fron the termi- nator now, a little left with the camera and a little further from the terminator.
CC: Okay. You're moving it toward the center of the screen now, and the earth is off on the left side of our screen. Hold it right there.
CC: Real fine. That's good.
UNKNOWN: What we're thinking about right now, Jerry, is hitting that wedge angle, about 2 degrees their limit. When we come back, the earth looks pretty small right from here.
UNKNOWN: it, Bill. ---_I---- - . . .. ‘. ~.. ..^ . . . ,
LMP: As I look down on the earth here from so far out in space, I think I must'have the feeling that the travelers in the old sailing ships used to c <ave: going on a very long voyage away from home, and now wetre headed back, and I have that feeling of being proud of the trip, but still - still happy to be going back home and back to our home port. And that's - that's what you're seeing right here.
CC: Roger, Bill. We'11 sure be glad to get you back, too.
UNKNOWN: This-is Prank Borman. We've enjoyed the tele- vision shows, and we'd like you to stay tuned in in the future because there'11 be flights and rendezvous and earth orbit, and then, of course, there'11 be television from the lunar surface itself in the not too far distant future. So, until then, I guess this is the crew Apollo signing off, and we'11 see you back on that good earth very soon. Roger, Frank. Adios. cc Apollo Houston. cw 00 ahead.
CC: We'd like you to go back to PK. Pick either attitude that's easiest to fly to.
CC: Roger. Your FTC attitude ought to be either a 1045 or a 18315. We'd recommend 18315. That will keep your windows out of the sun.
CDR: 180, that's right. I got them mixed up, didn't I? It's 18315.
CDR: Okay, Jerry . . . '
CC: Apollo 8, this is Houston. You're unreadable due to background noise. Over. How now, Jerry?
CC: Loud and clear. . CDR I say we're starting to stow the spacecraft and get all squared away and then be sleeping and eating. We'11 be all thinking about entry from now on. cc Roger, Frank. And now that Bill's up, we'd like to get a redundant components check.
CDR: Alright. He's putting helmets in the food boxes. Just a minute, I'11 get him to do it for you. cc Roger. There is no great hurry, Frank. We're --
CC: We're mostly interested in looking at the secondary loop. _- Tape That's what I was going to say. I can't see any reason to check anything other than the secondary loop, can you?
UNKNOWN: in that cabin cold soak, we won't have any cabin fans.