Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
LMP: Gordy, I guess it was the crater Bessel in Seren- itatis that Ron and I were looking at last night. And I think he had commented on being layers in the ledges that were visible in the walls, and i certainly concur with that. Although we could not trace layers - individual layers from ledge to isdge, within a coherent ledge the layers were traceable; and, in one case, I'm sure i could eour._ six or seven ledges - sub - welh_ Layers within single ledges. Reason it reminded me of it is looking a_ Timoeharis_ _ud i cannot do that with Timocharis. It looks like it's - those ledges - any ledges that may have been present as a result of the Imbrium Mare have since disappeared by weathering. That's lunar weathering, of course. Of course, down here in the Imbri_ - southern Imbrium - is one of the better regions of the Moon to observe the wrinkle-ridge systems or mare ridges, sometimes they're called. And it's purely that. They're fairly sharply defined - quite sharply defined ridges that are wrinkled in their pattern - sinuous would be another term. And with sharply defined slopes on either side of the ridge. Some- times they are flat-top ridges; sometimes they are more like spines. And occasionally you see them that almost appear to have vertical slopes on one wall or the other. The whole impression that I have, anyway, is that they - there may be a combination of structure and folding of the sur- face of the mare - Construction on the surface and folding of that surface. They're particularly interesting that they tend to - wherever there has apparently been an old sub - flooded crater - Yes, did you want to get that stuff? They seem to be controlled by the shape of flooded old craters within the Imbrium basin. And I think that's a safe conclusion, because you get the standard out- lines shown by the rille - the ridges; excuse me. Some of them are polygonal, and some of them are quite circular.
CMP: Yes. LvA° Okay. They 're coming up.
CC: America, Houston. L_ ° Go ahead.
CC: Okay. I guess vhe last team promised you no changes to the Flight Plan, but they didn't say anything about changes to the changes; and I've got one. At 15 minutes from now, 212:20 - -
CDR: Can you stand by a minute?
CC: - - in the Flight Plan. Might get that out, and I'11 give you a change.
CMP: Keep talking, Gordo.
CC: Okay. At 212:20, you're to stop the roll at 39 degrees and then do a VERB 49 to 142. And we want to change the PITCH to 268 and zero. That would be 142, 268, and zero.
CDR: Okay. I got that change. And you want that goout 18 - 212:187
CC: I - have to check back here. Yes, I guess that's when it is.
CC: Also, as long as you've got the book and a pencil, let me give you a few other one liners.
CDR: Yes, I'm ready to copy them.
CC: Okay. Let's see. The first one is at 214:55. And they want to add after that other stuff just above there "UV COVER OPEN" and "IR COVER OPEN."
CDR: Okay. At 214:55, you want UV and IR COVERs OPEN.
CDR: Okay. And answer
CC: the reason I'm so slow with an on that landing site position is, all I've got it in is latitude and longitude; and I assume that you want it in good coordinates, for your reference. One suggestion here was, you tell us, and then we'11 confirm your guess. I Just ran across an other couple updates, too. Back to 213:15 in the Flight Plan, I can give you the lunar sounder pads - the two of them on that page.
CDR: Okay. I'11 get them. Go ahead.
CC: Okay. T-start on the left-hand one there, is 213:20:10, and T-stop is 213:24:20. Then the next one is T-start of 213:41:40, and a T-stop of 213:59:54. Over.
CDR: Okay, Gordo, got them all. They're all at 213 hours. Start is 20:10; stop, 24:20. Start is 41:40, and stop is 59:54.
CDR: And, in thinking back about what my intentions were, that looks like probably a very reasonable - reasonable suggestion. And the first thought I had about being close to Trident, I didn't think I was anywhere near that close. And, of course, when you look out there and see a big hole, you don't know how big is big when you're down there. That big hole out there might veer easily could have been Poppy out at 9 o'clock.
CC: Okay, Geno, from science we finally got it to where it converted to your map coordinates; and their guess was close. Their best guess, with all the data considered, is 83.2 and IH 0.1 - Delta November 0.1. LvA° That would definitely make sense, Geno ... - -
CMP: That's pretty close to where the old C_P said it the first rev after landing, isn't it?
LMP: - - no:_th of where we put the ... Remember, vhat was a little ways away. You were at the edge of the depression, and it would - move it a little.
CMP: And, Houston; America. On mag Yankee Yankee used frames 31 through 35 at that last near-side termin- ator there.
CC: Okay, Ron. Got that.
CC: Okay, Gene. Say, we've got one question for Ron. We've got large teams of engineers trying to locate the missing scissors, and we haven't asked you in a while whether you might have found them. That might save them a lot of effort down here.
CMP: No, I haven't found them yet. And there's a lot of room underneath these CO2 absorbers I found out the other night because I lost my flashlight. But it kind of floated out, and I saw it every once in a while. And we found the flashlight and got it back, but I still haven't the slightest idea where the scissors are.
CDR: Gordo, you might have someone hide them in the CSM and send a backup crew down to the Cape and see how long it takes them to find them.
CC: Okay. I'11 get an airplane scheduled up right away.
CDR: I just FUssed 39 degrees. I'11 wait for it next time around.
LMP: _r the way, Gordy, you working on next week's air- plane schedule?
CC: Yes, what do you need? You mean the one from Hawaii back or something like that?
LMP: Yes, you might have some 38s waiting for us in LA; we can pick them up there.
CC: Okay; but we'11 have to work a three-way swap with some Skylab troops that will be out there. And then Deke will meet you in Albuquerque halfway back; and I'11 let you know how it all works out.
LMP: That sounds great. That sounds like easier than usual.
CDR: Every commander has the right to change his mind.
CDR: And, Gordy, I'11 watch the cranapple.
CC: Okay, Geno. 141/1 Tape
CC: America, Houston. We're starting to get to the margin on signal strength to get the data back. We want you to improve that by turning S-Band MODE, - S-Band NORMAL MODE VOICE switch to OFF, center, for about 5 minutes.
CC: Okay, Jack. We'd like you to turn the S-BAND NORMAL MODE VOICE switch to OFF, center, for about 5 minutes to improve our signal margin as you ap- proach the termin - the LOS here.
CC: Okay. OFF, center, for 5 minutes.
CC: America, Houston. Don't bother to answer, but we'd like H2 tank 2 FANS-OFF. That's hydrogen tank 2 FANS, OFF.
CC: America, Houston. We'd like OMNI Bravo. America, Houston. We'd like OMNI Bravo.
CC: America, Houston, you can turn the voice back on now. Have about a minute and a half to LOS for a final goodbye.
CMP: Okay. This is America with a goodbye for this pass.
CC: Okay. I guess the real reason for having you turn the voice switch off there is so the secretaries that are transcribing the air-to-ground here can catch up with Jack.
LMP: (Laughter_ I don't believe it. Yes_ Z do. Okay. 7nat's all you ever hear from me again.
LMP: Hey, Ron, do you want me?
CMP: That's right. There are a lot of those with a flat floor. Got to be a lava-type thing down there.
CC: Roger, America. Hello once again. You've got about i minute to T-stop.
CDR: Okay. We're right with you, Gordy.
CMP: Okay. T-stop isn't it - -
CDR: ... 24:20, Ron.
CMP: 24:20?
CDR: ... operation STANDBY.
CMP: Standby. Okay.
CMP: Okay. We're coming up on 24:20. The visual of Tsiolkovsky is hopefully pretty much recorded on the recorder.
CMP: 18, 19.
UNKNOWN: MARK it - STanDBY .... in standby, i guess the somewhat - a very small s_mmary, anS_ow, of the visual of Tsiolkovsky concentrating pri_riiy on the flow up in the northeast corner. To me, _hat particular piece that's fallen down in the cra_er there - and it's on one of the pictures - Tsiolkovsky, 4 or 5. The piece thai, is dowr_ in the crater is on the right-hand side of vhe page. And that portion, you know, is some_a_ of a moL- ten state, it looks like it is a l_mds!ide thav has slid down the wall of the crater '_ad detached from the - well, the molten sta_e cf material, rou_ - roug3a-looking material that's on _he ri_ of vhe crater Tsiolkovsky.
CC: Roger, Rom.
CMP: There seems to be high lava marks _round the west- ern and northern sides of the central peak. For some reason, it's not evident or visible on the south side of the central peak.
CMP: Also, there seems to be the high lava marks on the raised portion of the floor in the contact be- tween the dark material on the floor and the lighter, - oh, rough-looking ... - on the northern side of the crater. In the first observation, of the mass of material that goes out into the crater Fermi, the - It looks like there is a whole bunch of craters in there that have - or are essentially rimless craters. However, on close e_mlnation with the binocs, I couldn't see any that didn't have at least a slight indication of a rim. The rims that were on them were essentially very sub- dued. They extended out to about - oh, a half a crater diameter; and these are on the craters in the 500 - to 1000-meter size. I didn't get a chance to look at them, looking straight down the craters, to see if there was any depressions or any domes or any type of a structure in _he bottom of craters. But I get the impression that they're - primarily all look - just of cones with no flat bottoms at all. And I'11 look again at those things when we go by there next time. The flow that goes down into Waterman - if we look at the pictures, Tsiolkovsky 5 of 5 - the shadow is just about in the same area on this one as it is on that one, and I didn't take a chance to look in that one until I got to the wes_ of it. So i'11 have to iook_ when I'm passing it from the nor_h side of Tsio_fovsky looking sou_h, to see what's down in the shadow area there. But when you're on. _he wes_ Looking ba_ across it, you c_-_ see into the shadow. But _he material that's in vie floor of Zhe crater Waterman is the sa_e z_pe of m_cerial _hav the little flow on the norvheast corner has broken off _d slid down invo its o_a_ little crater.
CMP: So I guess what I'm saying is that essentially whatever molten material that's up around on the rim of the crater Tsiolkovsky has been - well, i want to say extruded - not extruded but pushed out, I guess, away from the crater sad has been in a semiliquid or semimolten state in its period of deposition. I'11 reserve judgement on some of the flat-floored, flat-mare filled depressions that are around the crater until I get a chance to look at those the next time around.
CDR: Say, Gordy, something that struck me, - something maybe everyone else has thought about, but I hadn't before. At the southeast corner of Smythii, there was a relatively large - several large somewhat subdued craters but with relatively steep sides to them. And next to this one was ELvery small, white, bright-haloed crater. And I watched the rays of this crater; and the southeastern rays draped over the slopes of this much larger sub- dued crater - draped over the walls, all the way down onto the floor. And as they draped over the walls, they obviously gave me a very good albedo change from the darker wall to the very much light- er colored. But as they hit the floor of the cra- ter, they form patterns that are not only not unlike, but actually very, very similar, _o the light-mantled area that we have been referring to as a possible slide back at Taurus-littrow. _ne patterns as they drape down the inner slopes of the crater and onto the floor, I would be willing to bet if we went down there we'd pro_sg01y find the same type of things we found at Taurus-Li_row.
CDR: By _hat i me_ aibedo changes that we cs_ see hcrc versus to what we can see dowr_ there.
CDR: Z looked for Obese ty-pe of - looked for uhese _g_i?e of _ay patterns, where _he rays jus_ _en_ out o_ a more horizontal plane. You can - you can find them if you look hard, but as they drape over the slopes and onto the more level floor, they're very obviously alike.
CMP: Hey, Houston.
CMP: Okay. That crater, if you look at Smythii 1 of 1, and the crater that's right above the rev 62 there, you can see a bright spot on the northwest portion there. And that's the breach zone of that particular crater. The thing that's intriguing about that to me is that if you look at the inner ring, it's a gradual slope from the center - the center of the crater is lower than the secondary - the secondary ring around the thing.
CC: Ron, let me interrupt here. Say the name of the crater you're looking at again in Smythii.
CMP: Okay, in Smythii. And- Mare Smythii, 1 of 1, that - that picture - -
CC: Roger. I - have got it.
CMP: And right about where it says rev 62. Okay?
CC: Okay; got cha.
CMP: Now, there's two - there's two rings in that pic- ture. Okay. The inner ring, the cenvraL portion of that thing, is lower and slopes ouvward, - radially outward - to the first ring. D_d zhen it drops off1⁄2 in other words, it's a _u_adual slope, maybe - oh, somewhere in the 15 to 20 degree slope upward to the first ring. And then iv's a s_eeo slope on the outside of the ring, at _oo_t, o£_, 45 degrees, dropping down into the _nnuius.
CMP: Yes, color? With 250 lens. Yes, all along. I just took it today, two of them, - three of them. Yes. Yes. Yes. I took three of -_hem the last rev.
LMP: Gordy, this is the LMP. While we're waiting for the site to come up again here, which seems to interest us every time we go over it, I think we sort of came to a general concensus on the problem of the smaller cone-shaped craters on the far side that have the little pool-like concentrations of material in the bottom. If you look at the fresh- est of those craters, the - that seems to be con- tiguous with the streaks of very d_k material that cover the walls and the rim of the fresh cone-shaped craters. As the crater gets older, that material - that distinction becomes less obvious; however, the pool remains, and all you lose is the dark streaks on the rim and on the walls of the crater. I think we sort of feel - suspect that that pool in the bottom of _ne fresh craters is just the concentrated impact melt that during - some of which is - stayed there the im- pact and other which drained back - that drained back after the impact from the - drained from the walls. And then, with time, that pool may be subdued some. The structures in it, the swirls and little domes in that pool are subdued possibly not only by the impact but by debris, slides, and avalanches off the walls of the crater.
LMP: it's getting to be a very consistent pattern when you start piecing several of them together.
LMP: _nat black streaking on the wails _d the bi_L_ets, - Ron may have already zold you, bu-; it ms chaa_- acteristic of only the very freshest; cf those con_- shaped craters, - and- or pool cra;ers, ;Ynicnever you w_ to call them. Anm it see_ _o be veer Logical that it just represents a th_ veneer on vhe rim _ud the wails of the i_£pac_--gener_sed glass. And it's darkest, presumably, where it's quenched; and the pool itself is somewhat lighmer gray than the black streaks and mantles.
CMP: You know, Jack, I get the impression that these bright ones, - see the bright one right down there in front of us there, - if you look at those with the binocs or with the - I get the impression of a dark greenish-black or blackish-green. In other words, I get a green - -
LMP: Green cast to the rocks?
CMP: Yes, green cast to the rocks. To the big blocks, you know, that are laying around there - around the crater and also the ones that are down - down in the bottom.
CDR: Greenish cast.
CMP: That greenish cast to them.
CMP: Yes, it is; isn't it. I can see that with the naked eye. That's a bright one. What's - I'm saying, where is the crater, though? Oh, that's the - that's Yerkes and - okay. You're in VOX. another
CMP: Hey, Gordy, we got orange-rimmed crater. And And we'11 spot it. I think everybody agreed. this one very clearly looks like an impact crater that has it's - let's see, we decided you're looking north?
LMP: It's north, east, and west quadrants - -
CMP: Let me describe it. It's Yerkes _d ...
CC: Hey_ you go_ the T-st_ time coming _p here skoi_tLy on the sorauder.
LMP: We '11 hack it up here, Gordy.
CMP: VERB 41 ...
LMP: Thanks, Gordy.
CC: ... now.
LMP: Sounder is OPERATE.
CC: That was close.
CDR: That was a very good call. Thank you.
LMP: No sweat. At any rate, in the north, east and west quadrants of that little crater - and we'11 spot it for you on the map, is a - very clearly an orange pattern - an orange color to the eJecta. The other quadrant is a lighter color - a ligh% gray.
CC: Okay. rU map? Wait a minute; I got a picture of zha_ i think. landing _.:!_cw_ Z don 't thirdc.
LMP: Gordy, my impression from Shorty the other day, and also from seeing these craters that seem to have orange - that are - around them, that look very much like impact craters from orbit, at any rate - it may be that the - if that is an alter- ation phenomenon, - that it's being localized around the structure created by the impact. But in this latter cases it looks as if the impact itself penetrated into a zone of that color.
CMP: (Laughter) yes.
CMP: Are we going to use your -
CMP: Here, take it - take a look at it. Okay.
CMP: Doesn't show up that way today.
CMP: Here. The color-
CMP: I know. That's the spot.
CMP: Can't see it anymore.
CMP: Yes. That 's a good view...
CMP: They're between Tacquet and Mel-Mel-Melanes [sic], aren't they? Yes. I see them ... Okay. Yes, little bitty ones. They're about - oh, a little bit bigger than Shorty. Yes. Those are - those are the ones that I called the other day. It was tan. a very, very light I guess you can put aa orange tint to them.
LMP: Gordy, to put orange into perspective, a_ leas_ as far as the LMPs eyes are concerned - from orbit, I would say that it's a orange-gray. Zv's still a gray, with an orange hue to i_. _md _._.en i use any blue or tan or ar_yvhing, i-o's a hue os. gray; and -'ii usually try _o say g__a_,r i:: zkere. Bu:c to sa_r something's orar.ge, i thir_k_ would be misleading, it's really ark orar,ge-gra_r_ buz i%_s clearly a diszinct hue.
CC: Okay. Kind of like dirty beach sand with a little orange in it, huh?
LMP: Well, we can't use that term _iymore. That's copyrighted.
CMP: Yes. That's right. There is. That's the one. That's the area where I was t_ring to talk about. That's just north of, - oh, th_'s Sulpicius Gallus. No, there's a gouge, Just - yes, north- west of Sulpicius Gallus Crater. Yes, bet I didn't doubt - I didn't talk _)out that thing. That's a - I thought - I was t_king about the little orange crater. Now you can see all the colors down - down in the gouge itself.
LMP: Hey, Ron. We'11 spot this one on the map, too - or Gordy. But there's a large gouge just south of the Sulpicius Gallus ridge. The gouge, - it's a r_m]ess depression - and streaming down from the upper portion of that depression are not only our old friend the orange-grays, but some would be a red-brown gray. Very, very clear coloration in this light, in, - I third, - My goodness. There's another cr_er we'11 have to look at.
CMP: Yes. There's a whole bunch of them down there.
LMP: Yes, but that's something in the wall of it in that area. Yes, it's starting - (chuckle) Man, we're seeing an orange Moon now. This - this whole dark m_tle in here aro_id Sulpicius Gallus, - they are - they are scattered era_ers with variety of orar_ge to red-brown hues. And they all, except for that large ri_[ess depression, which looked, - looked as if was exposing some lay- ers which were streaming those color, - _hat color debris down i_s walls - All tiie other craters seem to be small impacts that apparently are penetrating just far enou_u in-oo the daz_ m_uvle material to tap this zone of orange vo red-bro_s_ material.
UNKNOWN: And just north of that elongate depression, there is another circular crater. And it also is pene- trating down though this mantle stuff. And it had the reds and the browns and oranges dipping down it, too.
CDR: Hey, Gordy, just so you're fully aware, we're not sort of just leaning and getting color blind up here, I tell you, last one Jack was talking about was not even subtle. It's entire ray pat- tern was this same color material, and definite contact between it and the dark material around it, and it had that orange-brown hue to it, with- out any question at all.
CDR: it really is. You know I saw that dirt day before yesterday at Littrow, but, and I really haven't seen too much from orbit that I'd call really very distinct in color, until this one. But, boy, there's no question about this one.
CDR: And we pick up the lunar sounder at 59:54.
CC: Okay, I'11 try to watch it a little and give you a little more warning, too. that ...
CMP: Let me see. too far, you're up too far. It's closer to Sulpicius Galius. Right in that ridge basin, right in there on the red line.
CDR: Okay. Sorry_ HousVon, we turned thav one OFP aL %he - mir.ute early.
CMP: We'11 pick up an extra minute on the next one.
LMP: Okay, Houston. RECORDER's going OFF.
CC: Okay. no-_e
CDR: Hey, Gordo. I better make this now. What Jack and Ron were talking about apparently was an elongated depression. I was t_Lking about in the same area, and I'm trying to mark it approxi- mately on the chart. But it was a classic, small, bright-haloed crater. The classic with a classic ejecta and everything. Except it was this orange-hued crater. It was not bright-white. But it was very classic. And, as I said earlier, not subtle at all.
CC: America, Houston. I have a TEI for rev 72 pad. No hurry, maybe you want to wait until sunset.
CMP: Yes, we'11 wait until sunset. Okay?
CMP: Houston, 160 and 162 of the mag Oscar Oscar were taken from the north, viewing the central peaks of Copernicus.
CMP: It's a long ways away. I don't know if it'11 show up or not. It might.
CDR: Houston, this is America.
CDR: Okay, Gordo. I'm looking a_ead - i'm zrying to stay ahead and see what's happening zoday and tomorrow in the Flight Plan. And aivhough %kis nas come up in the past, we haven't said an_r_hing abouz it. You know, Ron put his hiomed harness 142/3 Tape on a couple of hours ago, and he's going to end up wearing it a total of 6 hours. Then, all of a sudden, when we make a change-over again, and i put i_ on and - for a 12-hour period, and vhen we change again. And one of the problems up here is putting these things on, and you'd like not to leave them on too long, but once you ge_ them on, you like to make use of them. And it's a problem, it's time consuming. I'd like you to consider down there letting Ron wear those until tomorrow morning, having me change over then. And when EVA time comes, we'11 take special consideration to whatever requirements there are.
CC: Hey, you just got a thumbs-up on that from the Surgeon.
CDR: Okay, very good thank you.
CMP: Okay, Houston. Just took whatever the three were before 39 on mag Yankee Yankee of Euler, Tobias Mayer, terminator stuff.
CC: Okay, Ron. And for Jack, the Surgeon says he's getting occasional erratic trace from Jack's biomed. He would be happy if Jack wants to take it clear off.
LMP: Gordy, I don't know how to tell you this, but I hours. haven't had my biomed on for about 6
LMP: As a matter of fact, I haven't even had the sensors on.
CC: Well, we musz be copying the heartbeat of the America or something, then.
LMP: How does it look. Maybe we ought to use i_ instead of mine.
CDR: Y_erica's ticker is doing fine - along wivh everything else.
CDR: Okay, Houston. This is __uerica. i've _c,_ Pligh% Plan change for you if you're ready zo copy.
CC: Okay, ready to copy.
CDR: Okay, if you'11 turn to page 3-26 at 217:52.
CDR: You can delete - you can delete both those steps.
CC: Okay. I've got that.
LMP: and put CDR.
CDR: Okay, if you'11 turn the page - turn to 230:29.
LMP: and put CDR. And on the second line, you can cross out
CDR: and put CMP.
CC: Okay, I must be on the wrong page - did you say 230:29? Must be 231:29, okay, got you.
LMP: and put
CDR: on the firsv line. Cross out
CDR: and put CMP_
CMP: Okay, and we'11 further update you as the mission progresses. I know you're pretty busy, and we'11 hold any Flight Plan updates down to you to a minimum from up here.
LMP: Okay, Gordy. You want to give me ._ oaa?
CC: There's nothing I'd rather do. Reamy to copy?
LMP: Go _aead.
CC: Okay. it's TEI for 72, SPS/G&N; 36477; plus 0.61, plus 0.83; NOUN 33 is 230:42:59.17; NOUN 81, plus 2887.4, minus 0339.4, minus 0050.3; 179, 095, 356; rest of the pad is NA. GDC stars Sirius and Rigel; 136; 160; 034. Ullage is 4 jets, 12 sec- onds. Remarks: Assumes ascent REFSMMAT. Over.
LMP: Okay. TEI72, SPS/G&N; 36477; plus 0.61, plus 0.83; 230:42:59.17; plus 2887.4, minus 0339.4, minus 0050.3; 179, 095, 356; Sirius and Rigel; 136; 160; 034. Ullage is 4 jets, for 12 seconds, and it assumes an ascent REFSMMAT. Over.
CC: Okay. That's a good read-back. Say, have a little s_mmary of - both the surface and the orbital scientific equipment's working. It's probably about 5 mimutes worth. If there's some handy time, I'11 be glad to read it to you.
LMP: Right now, Gordo. We'd love to hear it.
C: showed up as a 132-degree Kelvin anomaly on a 94 degree Kelvin background after 11.6 days of lunar night, the crater Reiner was a similar anomaly on that revolution, in iow orbit on rev 9, Kepler A showed a broad honspov corresponming to its ejecta blanket wi%h a sharp spike corresponaing to %he crater in nne cen_er. One coldspot anomaly seems to correspcnd to a cinder cone-like feature in Mare 0rien_ale near tele_:.- the cra_er Hohmanr_. On the i_ar so_naer_ et_qw monivoring of the sounder's _¢erage reflec_ea e_d_iblv power indicates that the mare anm kiglt_snas markedly different refiectivivy, bc%h im_ mhd VHF. The data is consistent with distinct layering in the mare, as would be expected, where the mare flooded by successive layers of lava, although, they say other explanations are possible. They don't see that layering - indication in the highlands. Predicted topographic signatures over features such as craters and mare ridges have been confirmed in principal. Of course, as you know, until they get the film back they don't have - they can't really reach any definite con- clusions. On the cameras - the cameras, both and cameras the laser altimeter all appear to be performing very well. And everybody's especially happy with the solid laser altimeter performance. Okay, that kind of sums up SIM bay. Do you have any questions, that I could chase down, or should I go on with surface stuff?
CDR: No, why don't you press on.
CMP: That sounds good Gordo, press on.
C: at a depth of 2.3 meters, and are nearly at their final tempera- ture. for comparison, at Hadley Rille, we found a -20 degree
C: at 1.5 meters depth, we had - to refresh your memory was minus 16 at 2.3. Bo_h probes show an increase of temperature wi_h depth, and it is clear that we will get a va_id hea_ flow measurement. The LEAM is functioning prop- erly, responding to calibration, and sensors show a low noise figure. The LE_M will be off ur.viZ lunar afternoon, and on, with sensors covere<_, until after s_mset. Otto Berg ask _haL you _ccepv his thanks and appreciation. On the LSG, vhe sensor beam cannot be nuliea at this _lme, i_ spite of Jack's efforts. We are still stuay_g Lhe problem and hope to find a workarounm. £n any case: the instr_ent does i_nct2on %c some exvent, as a vertical seismomever, and n'_y h_ useful in a search for a gravitatio_ial raa_a_io_ from pulsars. The LSPE is fully op_ravional, Lk 142/7 Tape ascent clearly recorded on all four geophones. And apparent seismic velocity measured across the geophone array was 100 meters-per-second. Rego- iith velocity was very close to that measure at the Apollo 16 site. The LM impact was clearly recorded on the geophones, and the estimated dis- tance was 10 kilometers away, in the South Missif, actually very close to the targeted point. Al- though, I guess you've discussed this, we didn't see it on the video. The first charge went off while you were on the backside, last re_, and it's very apparent on the tracers which I'm ]%onitoring right now. I think the next one's due sometime within the next 2 hours. Okay, the lunar mass spectrometer - the low voltage circuits of the LMS have been operated briefly. All monitors indicate the proper performance of the instuments, but application of high voltages will await lunar sunsets when both the analyzer and the site has had time to outgas. Temperature of the radiator plate is slightly above nominal, but not so high as to be even important. That was from Dick Hodges. Okay, here's a little sl:mmary from Dave Strangway on the SEP. He starts out by saying, "Water, water everywhere and plenty to be found," because you didn't get behind the time line. The SEP trans- mitter was confirmed to be working well at the correct power level, using the lunar sounder. The receiver heased well above predictions during the whole mission, as i'm sure you are aware, but the two prime data legs were operated within the tem- perature limits of the recorder, and we have no reason to doubt that we got good data. There is also a good chance that the legs on station 4 Lo the LM was within the temperature ii_Ats. Your _rocedures were performed excellently arid we look forward to processing the DSEA rape. 0kaM_ now %o - let's see, we got TGE, which is consicered a spectacula_ success. The Earth-Moon gravivy vransfer indicates the valve of - won_V read %he _umbers, in miilig_ls - at the - at %he Tarrus- Littrow base. But the value will be used to obvain a revisea value for _he lunar radius &_ vhis la,d- ing si5e.
CC: Gravity measurement made during the three EVAs showed a large negative anomaly of about minus 38 milligals at the base of the South Massif. A similar negative anomaly of about minus 30 at the base of the North Massif. Preliminary con- clusions of the traverse gravimeter meas - TGE measurements indicate that the material under the valley floor of Tarrus-Littrow is m_ch denser than that of the North and South Massif. The gravity values will support the hypothesis that the valley subfloor consist of dense basaltic rocks, perhaps as much as 3 or 4 kilometers in thinkness. The extra measurement between stations 2 and 3 will be of great help in determining the nature of the boundaries of this basaltic layer and the va_-ied extension of the massif. The cosmic ray detector - actually, you know as much as we do about the data return from it, of course: but the - we did - re- cover it earlier in EVA 3, as you remember, and that was due to a minor increase in low-energy solar protons and heavier particles detected here. And a reduced exposure will not offset the scien- tific results.
CC: The neutron probe was exposed to the surface for 49 hours. PI estimates that the distance from the RTG to the probe is 40 meters, which will mean that the background count will be iow, and he thanks you kindly for those few extra steps. And the last one was - to be summarized - was the field geology and they asked for a very short s_]mmary, so Walt Berger came through with three typewritten pages. So, we're just ,going to skip the whole thing, except the last li:ae, which was to say that you guys did an outstanding job. Over.
LMP: _hank_ you Gordy. We're just pleased z_av' so mar_y things are working well, and happy ;hav zhe ?Zs are satisfied. That was our objeczive, and Je came up here to meet it - and those rhinos zhav are done, i hope we met it, well - and we've gel a few more things to do yet.
CC: Well, i can assure you you're not the only o_:c_ %ha% are pmeasea.
CDR: Gordy - Gordy, and you know it's satisfying to have put that much time in and - and come out with some meaningful results. That makes us ail feel good. Have you been able, or did you see that first charge on the video?
CC: I forgot to mention that. No, we sure didn't see a thing. We had the camera aimed over there, but it was _.lmost a kilometer away. That was 1-pound charge, and we played it back several times, but nobody saw a hint of anything.
CDR: Okay. If you got - if you got a few more going off here in short order don't you?
CC: That's affirmative. I don't think we're up to the next one yet, but we'11 keep - keep you posted on whether we see anything, or how they're doing.
CDR: I might also say that we appreciate the time and effort the Pis put in with their experiments and with us also.
CC: Okay. I'11 make sure that gets to the backroom.
LMP: Gordy, this is Jack. What did they see over next to the Sculptured Hills on the gravimeter?
CC: Well let's see, Jack. They kind of - let me turn back here. They actually included - when they mentioned the negative anomaly of minus 30 milli- gals at the base of the North Massif. They said stations 6 and 8, parenthetically there. So evidently they're including the whole area there as the negative anomaly. I'11 try to get a more amplified answer to your question. that they were unable to - or there was no dis- tinction between the measurements of the Sculptured Hills and the North Massif?
LMP: Or better yet, what was the distinction between the Sculptured Hills and the subfloor area?
CC: You may have to wait until next time around for your answer.
LMP: Oh, there's no hurry. You can wait until tomor- row or even a (laughter) week if you wan_ to. I was just thinking about that problem.
LMP: By the way, Gordy, you might tell Bob Walker, if he's around, that the cosmic ray, as far as I know, was untouched by human hands, at least on the Moon. And it looked very very clean when I put it in the - put it back together.
CC: Okay, Jack. We'11 pass that along.
CC: America, Houston. One more question from the Surgeon on this mysterious trace on the LMPs biomed. Do you have anything plugged in to _he - is the biomed still plugged in and laying over on Jack's umbilical, or is there, is there any- thing plugged in to - to Jack's that could explain the funny trace here? It's kind of a sporadic- looking - looks like somebody with a heart in a pretty bad shape. (Laughter) Over.
LMP: Gordy, my heart has always been in bad shape, for other reasons than the one the Surgeon's thinking about. It turns out that I am still plugged together. I just don't have the sensors on. will remedy that situation, so he doesn'_ have bo worry anymore.
CC: Okay, that solves the mistery. Thar_ you.
CC: Say, America, aoout 30 seconds to LOS. See you next time.
CDR: Okay, Gordy. Thank you very much, and we'11 see you coming around.
UNKNOWN: Houston, America.
CMP: Okay, Houston. America here. The mapper - when we took the image motion from OFF to ON and then the MAPPING CAMERA switch from OFF to ON also, I think - maybe it was STANDBY to ON - but anyhow, as soon as it went up to ON, we had a barberpole on the talkback. Went back to STANDBY, and just before AOS, or just about AOS there, at - to 215 - 20, about 215:20, then we got a gray on the talk- back with the MAPPING CAMERA switch to STANDBY. Then we went back through the cycle, and it worked okay. So it's working now and it's ON. What I'm saying is I didn't start working until about 20.
CMP: Must have been too cold, huh?
CC: We'11 look at it now.
CC: America, would you select WiDE on the HIGH GAIN and then NARROW?
CMP: Doesn't seem to make any difference, i'11 try a REACQ posivion again. MANUAL - and WIDE. very good.
CC: Let's %_y REACQ, Ron. You're in a skin reflecsion zone vhere, is probgoly zhe problem.
LMP: Gordy. This is the LMP. How do you read?
CC: Jack, you're ioud and clear.
CC: Okay. Add to that little discussion of the pool- bottomed, cone-shaped craters that I had, I think, the last rev, that the one place there seems to be some variety in the freshest of those kinds of craters as in Mare Smythii where - the ejecta blanket of many of those kind of craters has some small dark halo craters - -
LMP: They're superimposed on the bright ray or eJecta and/or blanket ejecta blanket system of the - of those cone, or fresh cone craters.
UNKNOWN: America, Houston. We've got some words for you to - a request for a little visual observation at the landing site area, having to do with orange material. If you're ready for about a 5-minute briefing, I'd like to give it to you now, so you can get set up.
CMP: Okay; go ahead there, Gordo.
CC: Okay, what we want to do is see if - This was triggered off by your observation of orange mate- rial last rev, I guess, and possibly earlier. But the idea here is to look for some craters that we've identified on photographs that are in similar geologic setting to Shorty Crater and see if we can see orange material around them. We're trying to determine if the orange material at Shorty is a one-time special occasion or whether possibly it's common to the area and just never been noticed before. And we think you'11 be able to determine this visually, better than any other way. So, if you can get out the orbit - the orbit charts; the orbit photographs; let's see, the Lunar Landmark Maps for the CSM, and turn to the landing site number 2 or 4 piczure. Let me know when you get that, and I'11 show you where we think a likely point is to see craters that are similar in settin_ to Shorty, to look for orange material.
LMP: Okay, Gordy, we'11 do that. I've made a co_le passes with the binoculars over the dark mantle aro'_nd Littrow already_ and have seen nothing com- parable with what's around Sulpicius; but lefts have zhe exaz_ples, and we'11 make a s_ecial effort on it.
CC: Okay. Have you got the site photo number 2 or 4?
LMP: Here it is. Stand by Just 1.
LMP: Tao on it.
CMP: _ich one is that, Gordo?
LMP: 2O4.
CC: No. Number 2 of 4 of the site photos.
LMP: Oh, 2 of 4. Okay. Okay, we got her,
CC: Okay. You can see the landing site there at - down about 4 o'clock, and the 7-kilometer crater in the - on the centerline of the page, about a third of the way down from the top, the large bright crater there is - is Littrow B is the name of it.
CC: And on the southern half of the eJecta blanket from that crater, they're several dark halo craters, which we think are in similar structure as Shorty. We think thav would be a likely spot to look for orange material. There's a - Farouk has circled about four or five. They show up, say, a_ 4 o'clock, 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock, and 9 o'clock out about - from the center - about a crater diameter. in other words, a crater radius beyond the lip, roughly. We suggest that you utilize the best window in your attitude which you should be maneu- vering to now, if you - if I haventt completely inverrupted the Flight Plan. Is - at that attitude, window - let's see - i is the best, and 4 should poinv ap that way also. We suggest you get some- bo_ _ on the binoculars at 1. And use the same c_era setup, with the exception of using mhe 250-_llimeter lens, if you can, that you're going to be setting up for as per the Flight Plan for the o_oital science photos, if you can put the 250 on vhere; use iC_ as shown; and f/8, 1/250, and infin- ity - i'11 repeat that when you get to it - for th_ pictures_ if you see anything. _nat we're looking for is orange material. _ape 143/3
LMP: Okay, Gordy. We're working on that now, and we'11 get KK out.
CC: Okay. We were thinking you mzght be aole to get the guy on the camera in window 4 and the binoc- ulars in window 1.
LMP: We're coming up on the edge of Crisium :low.
LMP: Okay. I think maybe you're right about window 4 possibly being the photography window. If I can get oriented right. I thought you - No. There you go. Yes. It's all set, right here. And, GordY , I'm going to try to also shoot, if you'11 let me, two pictures on KK of that depression - colorful depression we saw near Sulpicius Gallus, if I can see it. Is that okay?
CC: Okay. I'11 give you a unilateral GO on those two frames, and we suggest you use two or three frames on this area we've been talking about, also, in addition to the scheduled 28.
CC: If we get short of film or something, Farouk says the last part of this orbital science photos, after you get to the end of the run and change to 1/125 of a second, is kind of marginal for photography anyway. think we see orange or not, huh?
LMP: _-_nat'svery strange. May have to pass you the camera in a hurry, Geno. I looked. Sulpieius that are orange or - orangish are very clearly orange - orangish gray and the whole, or at least most of the crater is that way. We looked at Shorty today, and Ron said that even the little bit of orange that he saw the other day is not visible, and I'd have to agree with that. The amount of orange we saw on the surface certainly would not be comparable to what we're seeing around Sulpicius Gallus.
LMP: And in a couple of quick scans, on previous revs, of the area, the dark mantle, near Littrow, I could not - I did not notice any obvious orange-gray craters.
CC: Just to make - to be sure we're clear on this: We suggest that area to look for them only as a likely spot; but any evidence of craters with orange ma- terial, in the whole dark-mantle area around Littrow and the edge of Tranquillity there, is worth noting and getting a picture of, if you see it.
LMP: Okay. Yes.
CMP: I don't think there's anything there.
LMP: Why don't you take a couple of pictures, then.
CMP: Wait a sec. Yes, I've got a few.
CDR: Can you take a picture? Yes.
CDR: Did he Zake a picture ...?
CMP: Okay. 5.6 at 1/250, huh? ble at ail. You know, the ones that we've been seeing %he - definite orange or the light-tan s_uff around are pure light ejecta blankets aro_nd %hem, not dark.
LMP: Houston, I guess none of us see anything comparable to what is down by Sulpicius.
LMP: And no obvious color either.
CMP: Well, they're comparable to Shorty, but they're not comparable to - they're not comparable to the orange ones that we've been seeing the obvious - -
CDR: Yes. The craters are comparable to Shorty, as Ron points out, and - but the color is not there.
CC: Okay. We'd like to give you a couple of space- craft chores - like to terminate the charge on battery B, and turn H 2 tank 1 FANs, ON.
LMP: H2 tank 1 FANs going ON, and I'11 get that charge in just a second.
CC: Okay. And just a reminder to go back to f/4 - -
CMP: Are you going to be able to get that.° science photos. Also, the 80-millimeter lens, if you happen to be - have the 250 on there.
CDR: What's the setting for the ...?
LMP: Oh, f/8.
CMP: Well, we're getting a little close to the te._mi- nator. Change to 5.6, Jack, I don't know. No, maybe not. f/4. Zt's just beyond that, i changed to
LMP: Yes, but you're going to be looking at the nadir, arenTt you?
CMP: Yes, that's right. Are you sure we want the - Yes, that's right; 8-second intervalometer for looking at the nadir with the 80 millimeter. Right?
CMP: Okay. Let me take a look down at the - that mare floor and Dawes. No. That's not Dawes, that's Bessel. Doesn't look like Dawes. Dawes has got a bunch of little - depressions that look like rim- less pits in the bottom of it. Bessel doesn't have any of those. It looks - like a bunch of debris.
CMP: There you go, Gene.
CMP: Yes. Yes, yes, I see it.
CMP: Yours is on - I see yours, Gene. It's on up there a little farther. Isn't it? But all of these are in the - this is not out in the mare floor of Seren- itatis. It's on the hills there, the Haemus Moun- tains. It's Just to the west of the Sulpicius Gallus Rille, and it's an elongate feature than runs kind of north-northwest by south-southeast. Yes.
CDR: ... was yours ...?
CMP: No, it's not in the mare floor at all. It's up there in the edge of the Haemus Mountains. But that was the same type of material; it has the same color difference as the - the material around the Tacquet Rilles back there. There now, see all those bright orange craters right in the - in the Suipicius Gallus Rille, up at the north end of it? Jack calls them an orangish-gray; I call them an orangish-tan.
CDR: ... out in the mare that's got this - all that -
CMP: No. No. Jack, did you get the pictures, good pictures? Because I can take it. See that one - oh, yes - see that one on the mare?
LMP: Yes. Good one on the mare.
LMP: Did you get that one - - Oh, lost my - - orange
LMP: Here, take it.
LMP: Let me take a look at it.
CMP: Yes, Gene, yours is out on the - I got a picture of it.
CDR: Are you sure?
CMP: Yes, yes, I know. It's got a - -
CDR: Okay. It's just inside, just in the foothills. got one out in the mare itself. It's got a - strip - -
CDR: ... foothills, and I can't take any ... i'11 get it. Yes, I bet%er have because they're getting close to - As a mat%er of fact, i need iv just about right now. Okay?
CDR: _.'ell,Gordo, we're going - we're going% _o get set up for Ron's orbital science, but thac little classic crater, I could see it again with the - -
CDR: - - with the naked eye. I don't think it's the same one that Ron and Jack were talking about_ but this is so classic. It's just out of the mare into the foothills to the - right along our orbital track.
CMP: And we're starting with mag 109 for the orbital science on Kilo Kilo, and I don't know what the number was before we started taking all of our (laughter) -
LMP: Ioo
CC: Okay. We copy that; 109 on a key - on KK.
LMP: .e.
CMP: (Laughter) Fortunately. Oh, what.? Okay, there's the old Apennines. Where are we heading for on this, Gordy? Can you give me a clue as we go along? South Imbrium.
CMP: Well, yes; south Imbrium's a big thing. Oh, the stupid thing doesn't work. I got that one.
CMP: Huh ?
CMP: I got that one. I took it.
LMP: Oh, I don't think you did.
CDR: Just a little bit on it. This one is -
CC: Go _daead.
LMP: _nis is Jack. M_ impression on that ri_eSs, V-shaped depression that had the striking talus on i_ - that it - it also - there was a spot,ed, 143/9 Tape mottled rim area that has the orangish-tan, or orangish-gray color as the spot. And it looked as if the - in this first - in this pass, and I'11 try to verify it if we have another opportunity; it looked as if the more red-gray, red-brown-gray, if you will, material was lower in the section within the walls of the depression. This is a very steep-walled depression, by the way. It has talus streaming down the sides of it, and the coloration stre_m_ in this same direction. I_ looks as if there may he layers or roughly horizontal zones that are - have the coloration that we're seeing, which are forming the talus slopes down below them.
CMP: Break, break. When do I change to 2.8?
CDR: I'11 give them to you.
CC: Okay, not until you get on up the line, Ron, to Lambert.
CMP: Oh, okay. L_mbert ? Okay.
CC: And your pictures are pretty much right along the nadir.
CMP: Now I got it. Okay. Yes. It's La Hire Rilles.
CDR: Is that Timocharis we're coming up on?
CMP: Yes, Timochar- We're over Timocharis now, and then La Hire Rilles are coming up.
LMP: Okay. T_nere's Lambert up there - -
CMP: Yes. Lambert's right up there, cominM up. I'm not sure - well, I don't know what the - Just _o the south of Lambert. What is that? No, just on the map.
LMP: Well, Pytheas, but it's - Rilles. There's one rille that goes right through it almost, and then another one - see, goes northeast-southwest. Oh, I see, okay.
LMP: Gordy, getting a good oblique view of Copernicus on this trip. And some of the dark-halo craters that we mapped originally on the north portion of the ejecta blanket, which were similar to Copernicus H, very are clearly darker halo than the - or have darker blankets around them than the eJecta blanket from Copernicus.
CC: Roger. And Ron should be due to change to 2.8 about now.
LMP: And this is a good view of the central peaks, although from some distance; and, as Ron and i were discussing earlier, it's not at all clear that that - in fact, that dike does not come through as a - the so-called dike - as a - as a unit that is clearly defined.
CMP: Yes. I was looking at it through the binocs last time, and Z couldn't really see anything that was really defined as coming on through there.
LMP: There's still a very - there's a very clear dis- tinction between the dark floor material of Coper- nicus and the hummocky floor material, the d_rk smooth being in the northwest quadrant. sure awful smooth ejecta around that thing, i_ only goes ouz about a half a crater di&z,ezer, dictameterin m_be a crater some spots, a% _he mcst; but it's not rough, it's blocky looking. Yoa know, it's smooth - smooth, undulazing -
CC: Ron, your ne_ c_mera change is at Euler, wnzen you ch_uge so 1/125 of a second. _=_- _ _ croaked. We did. 143/11 Tape
LMP: You out of film? You want that other mag?
CMP: Let's load Oscar Oscar in there to see if it will work.