Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
CDR-EVA: Houston, we're again proceeding directly toward the center of the crater, point A. As Ed pointed out, we're passing north of North Triplet. The area over which we are passing again, of course, is pockmarked by craters. However, the land is gen- erally flat right here. We have a - sort of a - a - I was going to say mesa but I really don't think it's a mesa. It's more of a ridge, which extends to the southeast, almost normal to our path of travel. I think point A is probably down in that valley.
LMP-EVA: Yes. Look, Al. I've spotted it. See the crater almost directly up front from us, in the valley? Right in the middle valley.
LMP-EVA: - - I think that - that's Weird - -
CDR-EVA: Okay. and
LMP-EVA: - - if we head to the north of that, we're in business.
CDR-EVA: Okay. That means that point A is, in fact, then, in the valley.
CDR-EVA: The - There seem to be quite a few large rocks as we progress along here. ***rocks of up to 2 or 3 _eet in size, and one would - would fairly easily postulate these came directly from Cone Crater. Of course, we will - get samples of these a little further along.
LMP-EVA: A little further to the left. Okay. Point A, Al, is right - not quite in the valley. It's right beyond over here.
CDR-EVA: Okay. ***subdued craters now.
CC: Okay. Is there any basic change in the - -
LMP-EVA: ... right here.
CC: Any basic change in the surface texture as you're heading out across toward A, there?
UNKNOWN: No. It looks all the same, Fredo.
CC: That's what I was afraid of.
LMP-EVA: We're - Fredo, see the crater - see the crater 60 meters to the west of point A?
LMP-EVA: - - the sharp one?
CC: Okay. I think I have it on the chart.
LMP-EVA: Okay. We're coming up on that one right - Okay, we're coming up on that one right now. It's the sharper one in the east, north-south line of about three craters. And our traverse, supposedly, passes right between them. Got it?
CC: Okay. We got you right on the map, Ed.
LMP-EVA: Okay. The - the kind of doublet crater, supposedly just south of our track at 71 and CT and CT 0.3. We're passing exactly on the south rim of those two, now.
CDR-EVA: Probably A - right here, is it not?
LMP-EVA: It's right over here to our left a little bit, Al. I believe. Now, let me see.
CC: And one other question from here. Did the blocks you described as you moved across there, do they appear to be in the form of rays from Cone or are they pretty widely spread?
CDR-EVA: No. We don't see any ray pattern, I would say. They're fairly generally scattered.
LMP-EVA: They may form a pattern when we get to the top and can look at them in plain view, Fredo.
LMP-EVA: Fred, right here in the center of these three are A. Okay. BUy that ?
LMP-EVA: Well, it's pretty close. I don't +hink it's ex- actly at A, but it's close.
CC: Okay, I'11 - -
LMP-EVA: ... using this -
CC: - - I'11 clock you at A, right now.
LMP-EVA: Okay. That large crater to your right, Al, Just doesn't show up. Ah ha! It does, too. That's the one. Just beyond that is A.
CDR-EVA: That's what I thought. About 20 feet ahead of me, right?
LMP-EVA: Yes, yes.
CDR-EVA: Okay, babe. Fred, the surface, here *** about that, is- is textured. It - it is, of course, a very fine grain dusty regolith, much the same as we have in the vicinity of the LM. But, there seems to be small pebbles - more small pebbles here on the sur- face than we had back around the LM area. And the population of larger rocks, perhaps small boulder size, is more prevalent here. Okay, this is prob- ably pretty good.
LMP-EVA: Yes, this a good place for A and y'all might also comment, Fredo, that the - they have an appearance, here, quite often like raindrops - a very few rain- drops have splattered the surface. It gives you that appearance. Obviously, they haven't; but it's that sort of texture, in places.
CDR-EVA: Yes, I think - I was - I was just about to say that there's a relationship between the texture and these small surface pebbles. Okay, point A.
LMP-EVA: Okay, at point A, we do a double core LPM. I'11 start with the LPM and a pan.
CDR-EVA: Okay, I'11 start with the TDS.
CDR-EVA: Fred, did you read? We're ...
CC: Roger, I copied - copied all of that.
CDR-EVA: The point where we're sampling is - Just about in the center Of three craters of almost equal size. I would say, perhaps, 20 meters in diameter. The ones to the north in *** are more fresh, more sharp; the one to the left is more subdued. I'm pretty sure we're just about where point A is on the map; it fits very close - it fits the description of it.
CDR-EVA: Okay. In the TDS, Houston; serial number 1002.
CDR-EVA: And the frame counter on the closeup is now 305.
CDR-EVA: Roger. And I'm now dusting that sample.
CDR-EVA: Remark before he starts, that number 3 block on this sample appears to have a smudge on it, before I start - a very light black smudge.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Fred. The LPM is in place; I'm level - It's leveled and alined, and I'm returning to the MET.
LMP-EVA: Okay. I'm here, now.
CC: LMP-EVA Okay. May I get a Hasselblad.
CDR-EVA: Sure. You may have a Hasselblad. What would you like ?
LMP-EVA: I'11 take mine, if you don't mind.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Senor.
LMP-EVA: No, Sun. I want f/8. ***
LMP-EVA: And, Houston. The locater shot for the placement of the MET - of the LPM is frame 7, magazine MM.
CC: Roger. And; you can go with reading.
LMP-EVA: I'11 take two of them.
LMP-EVA: Yes, I took two shots of that for your locators.
CC: Roger, Ed. And, we're GO for the readings.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Be there in a second.
LMP-EVA: Huh, Fredo?
LMP-EVA: Okay. I'm on high scale. X is 9.6, 54.2; B, 7.3.
LMP-EVA: 9 - 9.6; Y, 3.8; B, 6.7; X, 9.6; Y, 3.7; B, 6.5.
CC: Okay. I got all - all readings, Ed.
LMP-EVA: And that was the high-scale reading.
CC: Roger. High scale.
CDR-EVA: And, Al, now verifying the second TDS, serial num- ber 1001.
CDR-EVA: Let's see. Fredo, I'm leaving the LPM number 2, and - -
CC: Okay. Let me know when you're back at the MET.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Just a second. I wanted to tell you that in my leveling of these things, the bubble is tan- gent to the inner circle to the north, on both the first and the second - a alinement.
LMP-EVA: And, I'm back at the MET.
CC: Okay, and the clock's - starting it.
CC: And, while we got a few seconds there, Ed. The raindrop pattern you mentioned, is it - is it pretty general or is it Just here and there that you noticed this texture?
LMP-EVA: It seems to be fairly general, Fred.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston, the TDS sampling is complete, and the final counter closeup is reading 311.
CC: Roger, Al. I copied on lOO1, serial number final count, Bll. And Ed, you can - you're GO for the readings.
CDR-EVA: Get in there, baby. Okay.
LMP-EVA: OkaY, Fredo. On high scale again; X, 01.1 - - oh, okay.
CDR-EVA: Hold it. Now, hold it a minute. Oh, okay.
LMP-EVA: Roger. You pumped the ... you turn it on. X, 1.1; Y, 3.7; B, 4.0; X, 1.1; Y, 3 - No, Y is 4.0; B, 3.7; X, 1.1; Y, 3.9; B, 3.6. Over.
CC: Okay, Ed. We've got all of your readings.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Returning the third one.
CDR-EVA: Okay, we got closeup shots: 12, 13, and 14; and 12 - all at 9 o'clock shadow, 12 and 14 are two typical examples of the raindrop picture pattern which Ed - of which he spoke. Now, 13 is a picture of a foot track - -
LMP-EVA: Tread.
CDR-EVA: - - a foot track in the same - area.
CC: Roger, Al. And
CDR-EVA: I see some - I see a fairly large rock here at the - at the north of these three craters. It's embedded right at the rim. It's about 2 feet long. can I see some crystals in it. It h_s a good pel- let pattern% I'm shooting a closeup of that. And the Sun angle again will be 9 o'clock.
CC: Okay, and Al, a word from the back room says go at least two crater diameters away from - I guess, the crater you're just describing, when you get ready to take the double core.
CDR-EVA: Okay, we'11 try to put it in the center of the three craters to get all three - well, to get what- ever strategically we have here, and the last pel- lets, picture shadow 9 o'clock, was 18.
CDR-EVA: Okay. And since I've already taken a couple of pictures of the MET tracks, I won't do it - any more of that here, and probably won't again unless we see some difference in these tracks. They're fairly what you might expect because they're smooth; they're well packed and vary in depth only as a function of the - of the surface tension.
LMP-EVA: Fredo, I've left the LTM, returning to the MET. Had a little trouble with it that time. The bubble is tangent on the east side of - of the center ring.
CC: Okay. On the east side. Let me know when you get there.
LMP-EVA: I'm at the MET.
LMP-EVA: CC Starting the clock.
CDR-EVA: Okay, all set up for the double core here.
LMP-EVA: Okay, I'11 be with you in a second. I have a pan to take, and I'11 be right with you. Be careful with the Velcro on the tongue. You can see it came off, except for one bunch.
CDR-EVA: Yes, I see it. Why don't we Just - ... it's about the right size.
LMP-EVA: It'11 go in that outer pocket of mine. I'11 carry it - one of us can carry it when we ...
CDR-EVA: It won't go down that way. Also, 16-millimeter MAG.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Core tubes.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Fredo. You about ready?
CC: Okay, i minute. You go ahead.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Y - this is high scale. Y is 1.0. I'm sorry. X is 1.0; Y is 8.1; B is 6.6. Second set: X is 1.0; Y is 8.1; B is 6.6. Third set: X is 1.0; Y, 8.1; B is 6.65.
CC: Roger, Ed. And I assume all of those were high scale again.
LMP-EVA: Beg your pardon. Those were all high scale. That's affirmative.
CC: Okay. We got them.
CDR-EVA: Okay. The bottom core tube will be number 2. No tab. Top core tube will be number 3. No tab.
CC: Roger, Al. Top, number 3, no tab; bottom, num- ber 2, no tab.
CDR-EVA: That is correct.
LMP-EVA: Okay. And a pair of tongs -
CC: And have you started reeling it up yet, Ed?
LMP-EVA: I'm starting it right now, Fred.
LMP-EVA: The electronics are in the box, and I'm - picking up the reel, now.
LMP-EVA: Oh, no.
CDR-EVA: What's the matter.
LMP-EVA: This is a can of worms.
LMP-EVA: Yes. An awful lot of problem with it, Fred. The set in the cable is so much that if I ever let go of the handle, it winds down about three or four turns on me; and I have to - at least - then I have to take it back out. And the cable is all bunched up and curled out here. I'm not sure I'm going to get wound or not.
LMP-EVA: ... a different method of holding it.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. A couple of quick stereos in the locater of the core tube as it's about to be driven, and the ... of the LM is in the background.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Fredo. I got the LPM reel, reeled in Just enough to keep it off the ground. I'm trailing a can of spaghetti here.
LMP-EVA: Al, you haven't taken a pan, have you?
LMP-EVA: Okay. I'm starting with the pan.
CC: Okay. Just in the way of bookkeeping, we need the double core, and the pan, and a sample.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. We got almost two complete - tubes here, about one and seven-eighths tubes, I would say.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Houston. The pan is completed. I took it from the rim of a - old crater with fresh crater right in the bottom of it, and several small - small ones around it.
CDR-EVA: Yes. That's a pretty blocky one, that new one. I think if we take samples from right along that rim there, you'd probably get some of that from the bottom.
LMP-EVA: Yes. Okay.
CDR-EVA: Okay. And the core bit, Just for the fun of it, is going in bag 2 November. If we can get it back.
CC: And Al, they'd like a description of the surface where you drove the core tube.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Fred. Nothing, but it's the same textured pattern of which we spoke coming up in this traverse.
LMP-EVA: Uh oh.
LMP-EVA: Where's our color chart?
CDR-EVA: Here you go. Did you read the core tip?
CC: Roger, Al. We've got that, and for your informa- tion, that we're about 5 minutes behind in the total time line, for departing A.
CDR-EVA: Continuing - our description of the surface, it appears to be a scattered population of very small blocks, some of which Ed is going to photograph here, and his documented sample. I believe they came from the crater to the north of the sampling sites. Other than that, the pebble core-sample site is not unique to the traverse, so far. The first core went in fairly easily, i had some *** difficulty with the last core.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Seven -
CDR-EVA: Get that by yourself?
LMP-EVA: And, Houston, the rock I'm sampling is a - seems to be a fairly typical one of this little crater - multiple crater that we're working around right now near A, and it's going into the bag 3 November.
CC: Roger, Ed. Copy 3 November.
LMP-EVA: Oops. It's breaking apart on me as I pick it up. I'11 try to get most of the pieces.
CC: Roger, Ed. And, and we need to move on here to B; and before we depart A, we're going to need an EMU check.
CDR-EVA: Okay. This is Al's EMU reading 3.75; oxygen is reading 71; I have no flags; I'm on MIN cooling; and I'm comfortable.
LMP-EVA: Al.
LMP-EVA: Can you hand me another baggy?
LMP-EVA: Houston, I can't get all of this sample in 3-N. That's going to be able to go in 3-N and the next one. It looked like it was fractured, and when I picked it up, it fractured into about four pieces.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Now, head out the hill to B.
CC: Okay. And we still need an EMU check from you, Ed.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Fred. I'11 give it to you in a minute.
CDR-EVA: Can you catch up with me, now?
LMP-EVA: Yes, I'11 catch up. Go ahead.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Al's heading up with the MET. Over A, we go down into a valley. We drop down - fairly con- sistent slope of approximately 8 to 10 degrees. The texture, here again, is pretty much the same on the surface. The - basic regolith, of course - of course, is the fine material which is now, at this particular Sun angle, kind of a grayish brown, with the light pebbles on the surface m_king the raindrop -the small pebbles on the surface mmking the raindrop pattern.
LMP-EVA: And, Houston, I'm treading along behind A1 now. I'm starting to catch up with him. As I tried to describe for you before, the MET tracks m_ke a very smooth pattern in the - in the surface, reminiscent of - of driving a tractor through a plowed field. It smooths it out and m_kes a very smooth, dis- tinct pattern, and probably, oh, a quarter of an inch deep, no more.
LMP-EVA: It leaves gaps every now and then as it bounces.
CDR-EVA: I think you found B.
LMP-EVA: Yes. It's this big crater over here, isn't it?
CDR-EVA: It's way up the hill.
CDR-EVA: I think it's up the hill.
LMP-EVA: Oh, that's right. B is the crater we go - This is the crater we go by on the way to B.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. I'm looking for a conVact somewhere in here, but it's not apparent at this point. Sur- face texture seems to be very much the same; ***the standpoint of furrow-bearing propert_s, it's still about the same softness, and it still has the same raindrop pattern.
LMP-EVA: Oh, Fredo. You wanted a EMU check from me. I'm at 3.7, going 67 percent. I'm on MIN cooling; no flags.
LMP-EVA: And continuing the description a little bit, Houston. The - Trying - trying to think of an adequate de- scription or comparison to something we've already seen, but I don't think there is one. Incidentally, I see a string of craters down to the south - a string of boulders to the south of us that may prove to be a ray pattern as we come from Cone. And I observe, as we get closer to the - to Cone, the number of large boulders is increasing. We're going to go past some here in a couple of minutes - near - about a 20-foot-wide, fairly fresh crater. The boulders - a dozen of them or so - are 4 or 5 feet in diameter.
LMP-EVA: There's nothing around them.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Let's see if we can find us - -
LMP-EVA: This crater is the one, I think, Al, it's halfway between A and B, isn't it?
CDR-EVA: Yes, I think so. This little - -
LMP-EVA: Can you see the boulders off to the side there on ...?
CDR-EVA: I'm not sure very well. I think -
LMP-EVA: Ah! You should be able to spot that little chain of craters just to the south of it. On the map - if that - if that's where we think we are.
CDR-EVA: Ed, I don't see any craters right there.
LMP-EVA: Kind of small.
CDR-EVA: That will make us right here, huh?
CDR-EVA: There's no big one to go with it. A sharp one to go with it .... one right up there. How about that ?
LMP-EVA: Yes. Let's take a look.
CDR-EVA: That's probably Weird right up there. We're prob- ably about even with Weird right now, although you can't see ft on the ridge.
LMP-EVA: That's Weird, that big one right over there, Al.
CDR-EVA: Yes, that's what I say. I think B is that deep crater right directly ahead of us, Ed.
LMP-EVA: No, I disagree. I think - see that crater right over there that we came by? To the south, the big one?
LMP-EVA: I think this is the crater that - That's B. I think this boulder field, we can see it here if we look.
CDR-EVA: This crater right here?
LMP-EVA: We have to be considerably past Weird.
CDR-EVA: Not even halfway to the rim of Cone yet.
CC: And, A1 and Ed. I don't think you have to worry too much about the exact position of site B. If you're - it appears you're getting close to the general area, and that should be good enough on B.
LMP-EVA: Okay. I think we're very close to it. I think this crater we just went by is probably it, but it's very hard to tell, Fredo. I don't see any- thing else that might be it, unless it's the next crater up. Al, I've spotted it. That crater - next crater up is this one right here.
CDR-EVA: Where at?
LMP-EVA: Right behind you. That crater is that crater right up there. That crater is the crater over to the left of it.
CDR-EVA: Where do you think B is?
LMP-EVA: I think B's the one we just passed, back there where we were talking.
LMP-EVA: And here's the little - Ah hah, it is! Here's the little double crater right beside it. Look here. See, there's that crater; see, there's the little double crater; it's right there in front of you.
CDR-EVA: Okay, let's grab sample B.
LMP-EVA: ... sample B.
CC: Okay. And, A1 and Ed, this is a grab sample at B, and we need the panorama. And while somebody's doing that, we can get our site description.
CDR-EVA: I'11 get a pan, Ed.
LMP-EVA: Okay. And while A1 takes the pan, I'11 go ahead and give you a site description. The area here is in an area considerably more boulders, a larger boulder field, more numerous boulders than we've seen in the past. We've Just come into it as we - as we approached B from A. Now there are - there were boulders to the north of us; we previously talked of boulders to the north, and doggone it, they may turn out to be a ray pattern. It looks suspiciously like - like one. However, where we are now, we're about on the edge of a general boul- der population lining the flank of Cone Crater. Now they're not too numerous at this point. They're somewhat patchy. There's a lot of them buried, half buried, a few of the smaller ones sitting on the surface. There are - These boulders are filleted, and we'11 have to sample that filleting later. The surface texture - the fine is very much - appears very much the same as what we've been walking on all along. And about the only difference we could see is probably a larger number of smaller craters. I say probably; they're so numerous that unless you really make a population count, you can't tell. A large - I'm guessing a larger number of craters - probably secondaries from Cone perhaps - and certainly a larger number' of boulders lying around. Now, most of these boulders are rounded; there are a few angular ones; there are a few rocks with angulars but - angular- ities - but by and large, you can see edges that have been chipped off indicating the beginning of a smoothing process. And some of them are far beyond the beginning of smoothing. They're worn down pretty well. And most of the rough edges are where they have fractured and perhaps turned over. Most of them appear to be along fractures of where other rocks are sitting near them that might have once been a part of that boulder.
CC: Roger, Ed. And has A1 got the grab sample completed and up ?
LMP-EVA: He's - -
CDR-EVA: I'm grabbing it now.
LMP-EVA: - - grabbing it now.
CDR-EVA: We're going to give you a quick stereo on it.
CC: Okay. And we need the fine count before depart- ing B; and, right now, we're about 15 minutes behind in the time line.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Fredo, we expect that we're going to fall behind you; there's no way we can help it. We'11 pick it up later.
CDR-EVA: Well, we'11 see about that.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Grab sample from the west rim of Bravo Crater, bag 5 November.
CC: Roger , Al, - -
LMP-EVA: Now, Fredo, to complete this description. We are standing on a fairly high point - well, not really on a high point, about halfway up the slope. To our north and slightly to the west of us seems to be the low point in this area. It's surrounded by a rim that's reminiscent of a very, very old crater. The topography doesn't show up on the map, but it, indeed, is there. About 500 yards to the north and west is the lowest point that I can see in this area. Okay, you ready to press on.
CDR-EVA: Yes, as soon as I get my handle screwed back on here.
LMP-EVA: Okay, the next stop is the top of Cone. Let's get everything secured for that trip.
CC: Okay. And we'd like the frame count for each part - -
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. Yes. Yes, you've got a frame count of 34 from Al.
LMP-EVA: And 29 from Ed.
CC: Roger; 34 and 29.
CDR-EVA: Handle was loose.
LMP-EVA: Handle work loose for you.
LMP-EVA: Okay. I've got the MET.
CDR-EVA: Okay. You want to go first and I'11 follow.
LMP-EVA: Okay. To the top of Cone Crater.
CDR-EVA: Yes. Now let's -
CC: Okay, we're starting the clock - -
CDR-EVA: We'11 just go almost to the east here, and then I'11 go by Flank.
LMP-EVA: Yes. East and a little to the - -
CDR-EVA: See, there's Flank up there.
LMP-EVA: Yes. I can just barely see the rim of it on the far side of it.
CDR-EVA: Right, so we probably ought to head directly for Flank and on up from there.
CDR-EVA: Okay, and -
LMP-EVA: Houston, as we go across here, this ground is - A1 probably previously described it, but it's very undulating. I would suspect that there is not 10 yards at the most between what were once old craters. They are most of them worn down, but the surface is continuously undulating. There's hardly a level spot anywhere.
LMP-EVA: Lots of - As we come on up toward Cone, we're getting to see lots more buried rocks, bigger rocks.
CDR-EVA: We're keeping our eyes open for a contact here. But I guess the Sun angle makes it very difficult to see. However, I expect that by the time we get a little closer up to Flank - Let me pull it for a while.
LMP-EVA: I have to shift hands. I'm good.
CDR-EVA: Okay. By the time we get a little closer up the Flank, we might find some kind of a contact. The ridge of Cone Crater to the north is very apparent, as we expected that it would be. It stretches off distance into the and meets with the far horizon.
LMP-EVA: Fredo, I'm trying to find something distinctive to sayabout some of these craters we're going by, and it's very hard to do so. They're all smooth- walled except the very freshest one; and we're coming by a very fresh one now, which is rubblely on the in - Hey! It may even - That has some pretty good chunks of rubble on the insides. This is about the freshest crater this size we've seen, Al.
CDR-EVA: That's correct. This is a very fresh crater. It's about ... it's about opposite to the crater at stop E. It's a crater about 20 meters in diame- ter and about 2 meters deep, and I'11 get a quick - - rock from the side.
LMP-EVA: A1 just dropped down on a knee to pick up a rock, and he went - went in 3 or 4 inches. Need some help, Al?
CDR-EVA: Yes, I think so. I can't get any.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Come on, give me your hand.
CDR-EVA: Wait a minute, I got it now. Okay.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Come on up.
CDR-EVA: Okay (grunt). Thank you.
LMP-EVA: You're on your feet.
CDR-EVA: Okay. That's just a quick hand sample from the side of that crater.
LMP-EVA: Do you think you're following us and know about where we are, Fredo?
CC: Well, the board, I think, is reading for you Just past the position abeam of E, looking about halfWay between D and E - -
CDR: Yes, that's it, and - ...
LMP-EVA: Yes. And we're starting uphill now. Climb's fairly gentle at this point but it's definitely uphill.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Baby! Okay, I got it.
LMP-EVA: Almost turned, didn't it.
CDR-EVA: Yes. Okay, that sample from the west rim of the crater, which we described as block E, is in bag 6.
CDR-EVA: Okay. The going is still very smooth as far as the area that we're able to pick out. Of course, we're tracing a kind of sinuous course here, stay- ing out of the crater.
CDR-EVA: And, Fredo, to help further locate us, if you can, we're going by two very - well, fairly fresh craters. I don't think quite as fresh as the one we were Just talking about. The eastmost one is fresher than - The westmost one is the freshest. They're separated about 75 to 100 feet, and they're about 25 to 30 feet across and 5 or 6 feet deep, 5 feet deep, I guess. The westmost one has got small blocks in it. The eastmost one is very smooth.
CC: Roger, Ed. And, you described the blocks there a couple of times. I think you used the term "rubble," now. By that I assume you implied they were Just lying loose - nothing really in place.
LMP-EVA: I'm not sure that's quite true, Fred Some of it looked like stuff that belonged there, that had not fallen there.
CDR-EVA: There's a lot of glass in that rock, Ed.
LMP-EVA: Yes. Oh, there sure is. It looked like some of that so called rubble looked like it had - might be the residual of an impact just lying in the bottom. And, Houston, we're passing a rock much too big to pick up. There's a whale of a lot of glass in it.
CDR-EVA: ... like it was splattered with glass.
LMP-EVA: Yes. It looks - It's about foot and a half, 2-footer - yes, about a foot and a half across.
CC: Roger, Ed. And we copy the glass - -
CDR-EVA: That was a glass splatter, Fred.
LMP-EVA: And, I'm going on MEDIUM cooling for a minute.
CC: Okay. And, A1 and Ed, why don't we take a little rest here for a minute, and we'd like another camera count, too.
LMP-EVA: Like a what? We haven't taken any pictures since the last one, I don't think.
CDR-EVA: Okay. We'11 slow down the traverse here.
CDR-EVA: Should be Flank right here, Ed.
LMP-EVA: Pardon.
CDR-EVA: Should be Flank right over here.
LMP-EVA: Just out of sight, you mean.
CDR-EVA: Right - Yes, right there.
LMP-EVA: Let's go. Let's go over and see.
CC: Okay, A1 and Ed. I assume you're on the move now and heading toward Flank. Is that correct?
LMP-EVA: That's correct.
CDR-EVA: That's correct. Heading toward where we think Flank is.
LMP-EVA: I'11 pull for a while, Al.
CDR-EVA: That's okay. I got it for a while.
LMP-EVA: Why don't We pull up beside this big crater.
LMP-EVA: Take a break, get the map, and see if we can find out exactly where we are. Press on from there. This one should be distinctive enough.
CC: And, A1 and Ed. While you're stopped here, we could use a photo pan.
LMP-EVA: Yes, going to suggest that. If you'11 take the pan, Al, I'11 grab the map and get over here and see if we can find -
CDR-EVA: Let me pull it up on a little more level ground.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Give you a push.
CDR-EVA: Okay, very good. Level?
LMP-EVA: That looks good.
LMP-EVA: That old LM looks like it's got a flat over there, the way it's leaning.
CC: Say that last again, Ed.
LMP-EVA: Just talking. Never mind.
CC: And, Ed, now we're going to have a site handover here.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. The pan is complete on magazine - magazine Lima, Lima. Frame count is 57.
CC: Roger. 57, Al.
CDR-EVA: You're breaking up, Fred.
CC: Copied 57. How's that?
CDR-EVA: Reading him? Ed, are you reading?
CC: Okay, - -
LMP-EVA: Yes, I read.
CC: Ed. Do you read Houston? - -
LMP-EVA: I can't read Fred now. Fredo, you're breaking up completely.
CDR-EVA: (Sigh) Start on up toward the rim?
UNKNOWN: Yes. Just i second, though. I think I got it.
CDR-EVA: Okay, I'11 head on out.
LMP-EVA: Fredo, can you read?
UNKNOWN: Well, I'm getting a feedback on my own voice.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Ed, I'm coming through.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Do you want me to pull awhile, Al?
CDR-EVA: No, that's all right.
LMP-EVA: I can't really spot this - this crater, but I think I know where we are. We're pretty close to where you said we were.
CDR-EVA: Houston, your transmissions are still unreadable.
CC: Roger, Al. I hadn't been talking. How do you read me now? - -
CDR-EVA: Is that Flank over there?
LMP-EVA: I think it's dead ahead of you, Al. Oh, wait a nuinute. This is probably it, right here. Yes.
CDR-EVA: Am I right?
LMP-EVA: Yes. Let's just doublecheck and see.
CDR-EVA: It's got a - about a 4-meter-radius crater in the south wall.
LMP-EVA: That has to be it.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. We're going by Flank on the way up. We're passing to the north side of it.
CDR-EVA: Fred, you're still unreadable.
LMP-EVA: Let me pull awhile, Al. You're having all the fun (laughter).
CDR-EVA: Well, we still have a little way to go.
LMP-EVA: Yes. We sure do. Putting the map away.
LMP-EVA: I'm just putting the map away.
LMP-EVA: Fredo, you back with us.
LMP-EVA: Okay. That's much better. You got a background squeal.
CC: Okay. Evidentally, that station swJtchgave us some problem.
CC: I've been copying both of you all the way though. We have you now Just passing point -
CC: Okay. We've been copying both of you all the way most of the time, and I have you by A point now.
LMP-EVA: That's affirmative. And the grade is getting pretty steep.
CC: Have you got any estimate?
LMP-EVA: And the soil here is a bit firmer, I think, than we've been on before. Except around what - the mounds in between craters where it's been thrown out. But, by and large, it seems to have a little firmer footing. We're not sinking in as deep (heavy breathing).
LMP-EVA: Yes. It helps a little bit. Al's picked up the - Al's got the back of the MET now, and we're carry- ing it up. I think it seems easier.
CDR-EVA: Left, right, left, right.
LMP-EVA: Say again.
LMP-EVA: It will roll along here, except we just move faster carrying it.
CDR-EVA: Okay. You want to rest here with this rock.
CDR-EVA: This is the first big boulder we've seen, Houston. I think it's worthwhile taking a picture of it with the closeup. Go on and keep going.
LMP-EVA: I'11 pull on up. We probably ought to take a pan to locate everything here, while you're taking a closeup.
CC: Okay. I understand, Al. You're shooting a closeup shot of a big boulder.
CDR-EVA: Okay. The shot's been taken on the closeup counter number 317. Sun angle was 8 o'clock. The - this particular one is only about 12-feet long by about 4-feet wide. It's about one-third buried. It's old, very weathered. There are some evidences of some crystal shining through some of the frac- tures.
LMP-EVA: And I'm taking a Hasselblad of the rock and will take a pan now from - at this location. Help document our course going to the top of Cone Crater.
LMP-EVA: And I can look right across into the breach in the north rim of 01d Nameless. We're about even with it now.
CC: Okay, and copied, Ed. And was there any notice- able - -
LMP-EVA: That was frame - -
CC: - - dust on the large boulder?
LMP-EVA: Not where I took the picture, but some fillets around the bottom.
CC: Okay, copy now.
LMP-EVA: Okay. And 44, Fred, was my frame count.
LMP-EVA: I believe that was - if I remember _t.
LMP-EVA: Now, I'm going to move on out. Al's ahead of me here.
CDR-EVA: Okay. We're starting up the last flank of the crater now, Houston. The slope is probably about - oh, 18 percent. The surface texture is still pretty much the same as far as the raindrop pattern is concerned. But we seem to find an increasing population of smaller rocks.
LMP-EVA: The small rocks and smaller - smaller, fresher craters, as well. Well - Wait a minute, maybe I'm being deceived. With this slope, the Sun angle is entirely different than it is on the flat land. The craters look sharper in these shadows (heavy breathing).
CDR-EVA: Okay. Let's make an EMU stop.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Let me ...
CDR-EVA: I'd like to stop and rest here for a minute.
CDR-EVA: Boy, I tell you, we're really going to get a panorama. We've got a tremendous one of areas in already. And we're not quite to the rim. Head towards out [sic] Old Nameless over there, right along our track, or just south of our track I should say. We made the right approach; we came up through the valley and over the range and down into the bowl. Couldn't have planned it better.
LMP-EVA: I thought we were in a tow spot with the LM, but it turns out We're really not in the lowest spot around, I don't think.
CDR-EVA: Well, I don't know, no. I tell you it's probably the lowest spot right - -
LMP-EVA: Oh, right in that particular local area.
CDR-EVA: - - in that area. Yes.
LMP-EVA: But that's the lowest spot over to the right that I was talking about. And there's a low spot - -
CDR-EVA: Well, there's a crater over there. It's true, yes.
LMP-EVA: Yes. Doggone, you can sure be deceived by slopes here. The Sun angle is very deceiving.
LMP-EVA: Okay, let me pull a while. You ready to go?
CDR-EVA: Yes. Ail set.
LMP-EVA: Okay, let me go back to MIN cool, MINIMUM cool first.
CDR-EVA: I guess right straight up is the best way to go.
LMP-EVA: Beg your pardon?
CDR-EVA: Right straight up is the best way to go.
LMP-EVA: Yes, I think so.
CDR-EVA: Stay away from the rocks.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Get a little momentum going.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. We're proceeding onward now.
LMP-EVA: And the boulder fields that A1 pointed out - the rocks and boulders are getting more numerous toward the top here. However, it's nothing like the rubble and the large boulders that we saw at the Nevada test site. Now, this is surprising to me. I expected it to be more like that. But it is not_ at least not where we're looking now (heavy breathing).
CDR-EVA: Well, we haven't reached the rim, yet.
LMP-EVA: Oh boy, we got fooled on that one. I'm not sure that was Flank we were in a minute ago either. Wait a minute. Yes, it is. The rim's right here. That's the - that's the east - little shoulder running down from the Cone. That's Flank over there. We're going to hit it on the south side. We'11 have to move on around of it. This looks like easy going right here (heavy breathing). See, there's the boulder field that _hows in the photograph - right up ahead of us.
CDR-EVA: There's a crater up there, Ed.
LMP-EVA: Yes. Pardon?
CDR-EVA: Crater up there.
CC: Oksy, A1 and Ed. They'd like you to take another stop here.
CDR-EVA: Okay. We're really going up a pretty steep slope here.
CC: Yes. We kind of figured that from listening to yOU.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Well, now, that's apparently the rim of Cone over there. And we're about - almost 2 hours now. Is that right, Fred?
CC: Okay. We're showing 1:57 and a half now, Al.
CDR-EVA: Okay. That's at least 30 minutes up there.
CDR-EVA: And - I would say we'd probably do better to go up to those boulders there, ... use that as the turnaround point.
LMP-EVA: Yes. It's going to take longer than we expected.
LMP-EVA: Our positions are all in doubt now, Fredo. What we were looking at was a flank, but it wasn't really - the top of it wasn't the rim of Cone. We've got a ways to go yet.
CDR-EVA: Well, perhaps you can think - perhaps you can think with us if you want. I'd say that the rim is at least 30 minutes away. We're approaching the edge of the boulder field here on the south flank.
LMP-EVA: Let's look at that map.
CDR-EVA: And what I'm proposing is perhaps we use that as the turnaround point. It seems to me that we spend a lot more time in traverse if we don't, and we don't get very many samples.
CC: Roger, Al. And, just a couple of questions they have up now. Like your note, if you do see any dust, particularly on the top surfaces of boulders in the area. And, any comparisons between the boulders you see distributed around. Are they all the same or do some types appear different?
LMP-EVA: It's too early to make that darn judgment, but we'11 tellyou when we get there. We're not really in that boulder territory yet.
CDR-EVA: I think, Fredo, if you'11 keep those questions in mind, the best thing for us to do is to get up here and document a sample what I feel is pretty sure Cone eJecta. And then, when we head down - Sun, we'11 be able to see these subtle variations and rock types a lot better than we are right now.
CDR-EVA: Well, let's head for these two babies up here.
LMP-EVA: Hey, Al.
LMP-EVA: I'd - No, let's keep going around this crater, but - ... right here.
CDR-EVA: Well, maybe. I thought we'd get those boulders up there, Ed.
CDR-EVA: They undo_otedly came from -
LMP-EVA: Yes. Let's head right for that boulder field at the top. I think we'11 be where we want to be.
LMP-EVA: Yes, right - Clear on up at the top, you mean.
CDR-EVA: I don't think we'11 have time to go up there.
LMP-EVA: Oh, let's give it a whirl. Gee whiz. We can't stop without looking into Cone Crater. We've lost everythingif we don't get there.
CDR-EVA: I think we'11 waste an awful lot of time traveling and not much documenting.
UNKNOWN: Well, the information we're going to find, I think, is going to he right on top.
CC: We establish - -
CDR-EVA: Okay, Ed. Look at this - you're going through - just kicked up a layer of some very light gray fine underneath the - -
LMP-EVA: Yes. As you look back along your path, there's quite a bit of it.
CDR-EVA: Yes, this crater - -
LMP-EVA: Fredo, How far behind time line are we?
CC: Okay. The best I can tell right now - about 25 minutes down now.
CDR-EVA: We'11 be an hour down by the time we get to the top of that thing. You got six samples.
LMP-EVA: Well, I think we're going to find what we're look- ing for up there.
CC: Okay, A1 and Ed. In view of your assay of the - where your location is and how long it's going to take to get to Cone, the word from the backroom is they'd like you to consider where you are the edge of Cone Crater.
LMP-EVA: Think you're finks.
CC: Okay. That decision, I guess, was based on Al's estimate of another, at least, 30 minutes and, of course, we cannot see that from here. It's kind of your judgment on that.
LMP-EVA: Well, we're three-quarters there.
LMP-EVA: Why don't we lose our bet, Al, and leave the MET and get on up there? We could make it a lot faster without it/
CDR-EVA: No. I think what we're looking at right here in this boulder field, Ed, is the stuff that's ejected fr°m Cone.
LMP-EVA: But not the lowermost part, which is what we're interested in.
CDR-EVA: Okay. We'11 press on a little farther, Houston. And keep your eye on the time.
CC: Okay. And, as of right now, we have a BO-minute extension.
CDR-EVA: Yes. That's affirmative, Fred. Thank you.
CC: Kitty Hawk, Houston. I've got your data now.
CC: Kitty Hawk, Houston. I think I got you that time. Kind of weak though.
CMP: Okay. It looks like we're in lockup, here. You're loud and clear.
CC: Kitty Hawk, Houston. We got rid of the background noise now; probably have some good comm here.
CMP: Roger, Ron. That - that's the highest signal strength I've seen so far.
CC: Man, that's the best I've heard you. Sounds real good.
CC: Hey, Stu, I guess the one thing I really didn't get out of you in talking about the Hycon camera, do you have any confidence - confidence at all in that thing?
CMP: Well, I guess I really don't know the inner workings well enough to - to say that, Ron. The racket sure does sound bad; but, when you see the - see the frame counter going, you figure it's doing something. I don't really know. I didn't get a chance to look at it. I thought, as soon as we finish up here, I'11 - I've got it out; and, we get a chance, why, we'11 - we'11 run through an exercise here with - with you on the loop and maybe we can then arrive at some conclusion.
CC: Just for your information, A1 and Ed are Just about on the edge of Cone Crater now.
CMP: Oh, great. How was the climb?
CC: Well, it was a little further away, I think, than they really thought it was going to be. They're going to go - go up on the west rim, I guess, instead of the east rim. What it looks like right now. It's kind of the southwest rim. They're sending back all kinds of good-deal information about the soil and texture and what have you - the rocks.
CC: And Stu, I guess you've been taking a look - haven't you? - at the - in our landmark book there in the De - Descartes COAS pictures?
CC: Okay, Stu. I've got some HIGH GAIN angles for you for after the COAS maneuver. A PITCH of minus 48 and a YAW of 177.
CMP: Okay. PITCH, minus 48; YAW, 177.
CMP: Well, I sure hate to ruin this Rood comm, but I'11 start my maneuver.
CC: Kitty Hawk, Houston. OMNI Charlie.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Stop at this little rise here and take a panorama.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Al's going to MEDIUM flow.
LMP-EVA: Okay, I'11 take a pan from here.
CDR-EVA: Well, I'11 tell you, it's a fantastic view from here. As this pan will show.
CDR-EVA: We're approaching the edge of the rugged boulder field to the west rim. It appears as though the best for us to do will be go to the west rim and document from there even though the Sun angle may not be quite as good. Well, we're pushing on in that direction.
CC: Roger, Al. - -
CDR-EVA: Al's back to MIN flow.
CC: You're moving to the west then.
CDR-EVA: A1 is back to MIN flow, and we're moving again.
LMP-EVA: It's not that hard with the MET. We need those tools. No, the MET's not slowing us down, Houston. It's Just a question of time. We'11 get there.
LMP-EVA: Give you a hand, Al.
CDR-EVA: It's all right.
LMP-EVA: You caught a boulder with your wheel when you went around that corner.
LMP-EVA: Head left. It's right up there.
CDR-EVA: Yes. I'm going there.
LMP-EVA: You need a little more lift. Go right up through there. I'11 give you a hand.
UNKNOWN: CDR-EVA Okay. We're now right in middle of the boulder field on the west rim. We haven't quite reached the rim yet.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Want to rest here a minute?
LMP-EVA: Let's take a look at the map. I think we're closer than that (heavy breathing).
CDR-EVA: I'11 Just go ahead slowly with this.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Another crater.
LMP-EVA: Yes. The r_m's right up here.
LMP-EVA: Let's see if we can spot this one, A1 - -
LMP-EVA: - - on the map.
CC: Okay. And, Al, it looks like you'd be a little more comfortable there if you're on INTERMEDIATE.
CDR-EVA: Yes. Okay. We're resting now.
LMP-EVA: Look. Let me show you something.
LMP-EVA: Here's that crater. We're down here. We got to go there.
CDR-EVA: What crater?
LMP-EVA: That crater right there is that one right there.
CDR-EVA: Want to pull for a while?
CDR-EVA: Okay. We're about the maximum elevation now, Houston. It's leveled out a little bit. And it looks like we'11 be approaching the rim here very shortly.
CC: Roger, Al. And you can leave the dial in INTER- MEDIATE. We're fat on the - for the feedwater.
LMP-EVA: Let me set mine. If we're in that good of shape, let me set mine, Houston, if I'm okay, too.
CC: That's affirmative, Ed. I guess the low item is the battery.
LMP-EVA: Oops! It's going over. Got it.
LMP-EVA: Fantastic stabilization; Al, it's going to turn over.
CDR-EVA: Okay. We better reconnoiter here. I don't see the crater yet.
LMP-EVA: I agree. ***rock under my wheels.
CDR-EVA: See this boulder pattern and all that we're in here right now? This boulder field and all?
UNKNOWN: I thought it was on the south rim.
CDR-EVA: It's affirmative. It's down in the valley.
CC: I'm sorry. You misunderstood the question. I meant the rim of Cone Crater.
CDR-EVA: Oh, the rim. That is negative. We don't - haven't found that yet.
LMP-EVA: This big boulder right here, Al, which stands out bigger than anything else - ought to be - ought to be able to see it.
CDR-EVA: Well, I don't know what the rim is still - way up here from the looks of things.
CC: And, Ed and Al, we've already eaten in our 30-minute extension and we're past that now. I think we'd better proceed with the sampling and continue with the EVA.
LMP-EVA: Okay, Fredo.
CDR-EVA: Okay. We'11 observe with a pan from here. I'11 take that.
LMP-EVA: Ail right, I'11 start sampling.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Houston. We are in the middle of a fairly large boulder field. It covers perhaps as much as a square mile. And - as the pan will show, I don't believe we have quite reached the rim yet. However, we can't be too far away and I think certainly we'11 find that these samples are pretty far down in Cone Crater.
CDR-EVA: Okay, you about to start taking documented samples?
CC: Right here.
CDR-EVA: Ail righty. I would say, Houston, that most of these boulders are the same brownish gray that we've found. But we see one that is definitely almost white in color. A very definite differ- ence in color, which we'11 document. We noticed that beneath this dark brown regolith, there is a very light-brown layer. And I think we'11 get a core tube right here to show that. As a m_tter of fact, I think I'11 do that right now.
CC: Roger, Al. And for your information, we won't be doing the polarimetric experiment.
CDR-EVA: I understand, you will not be.
CC: That's affirmative. You can delete that one.
CDR-EVA: Hey, I'11 bring back the MIN cool.
CC: Roger, Al. And, Ed, I need an opinion. Do you think you'd be able to deploy and take the second and last LPM reading at this location?
LMP-EVA: Yes, we can take it at this location.
CC: Okay. What I have on the board here to perform - and I guess we'11 call it C prime - is a sample, and I guess you already got a pan - I thought some- body did - and the LPM then.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Let me suggest that we take one of these football-sized rocks from here, too, Fredo.
CC: Roger, Al. Very good.
LMP-EVA: This area that we're in right now is - we're sam- pling in - is a pretty darn rugged boulder-strewn area. One of the smaller rocks I've sampled is going into 7-N.
CC: And, A1 and Ed. When you can work it in, we'd like an EMU check.
CDR-EVA: Okay. Al, 3.75 and reading 52 on the oxygen; and I'm in MEDIUM flow and I'm comfortable; no flags.
LMP-EVA: Okay. I'm reading 3.75; I'm 48 on oxygen; I'm now at MIN flow, having just shifted, and I'm comfort- able.
LMP-EVA: Okay. LPM deploy.
CDR-EVA: Okay. The core tube sample turned out to only be about three-quarters of a tube. The area is ap- parently very rocky, but I did get down into the second layer of the underlying layer of the regolith, which was white as opposed to being dark brown.
CDR-EVA: On second thought, forget that core tube. It's too granular and most of the material came out of the tube. I'11 Just ... a couple samples, and bag it, of the two top layers.
LMP-EVA: Hey, Fredo; I'm having a hard time leveling the - Okay, there it is.
CC: And, Al. About what sample-bag number are you up to now?
LMP-EVA: 7-N was the last one I put in.
CDR-EVA: Okay, Fredo, we're up on 12 here. I don't know whether that's consecutive or not .... not.
LMP-EVA: Fredo, I'm - I'm back at the MET having left the LPM; took my time.
CC: Roger, Ed- -
LMP-EVA: The LPM is alined about 3 degrees to the north of the east-west line.
LMP-EVA: And it is level, the bubble just about in the center.
CC: About what's the size of the largest block y'all have passed, Ed?
LMP-EVA: That we've gone past?
CC: That's right - -
LMP-EVA: Oh, 25 feet long.
CDR-EVA: Hand me the shovel, please, Ed.
UNKNOWN: Get ready - You ready to read the LPM?
LMP-EVA: Fredo. Houston, you still with us?
CC: Affirmative, Ed. You go ahead with the reading - -
LMP-EVA: I'm going to read the LPM.
LMP-EVA: Okay. I'm on low scale, 4.9 on X; Y, 4.6; Z, 6.5; X, 4.9; Y, 4.6; Z, 7.0; X, 4.9; Y, _.5; Z, 7.5. And it's still going up in Z. Better give you one more set. X is 4.6, Y is 4.4, Z is 8.0, and it seems steady at that level.
LMP-EVA: Okay. It is done.
CC: And, Al. Did you say you had taken a sample of the white boulder or was that too large to sample?
CDR-EVA: No. Right now I'm sampling a layer that is sort of a light gray Just under the regolith. That went in bag - number 9, and bag number 10 was a sample of some of the surface rocks that were - that were right around that area. It looks like kind of a secondary impact that has disrupted the surface regolith and gone on down into the gray area.
CDR-EVA: Okay. You want to - -
LMP-EVA: Oh, we'11 make - make a grab sample here as well as documenting ....
CC: Okay. And, Ed, is the LPM still in your immediate area?
CDR-EVA: Okay, he'11 get it for you in a minute.
LMP-EVA: I'11 get it ...
CC: Okay. And, A1 - -
LMP-EVA: Do you want the ...
CC: - - did you mention either seeing a white boulder or a brown - a brownish gray boulder earlier?
CDR-EVA: I mentioned there's a boulder definitely whitish in color, Fred. We'11 be over there in a minute. Not in our _mmediate vicinity. But it definitely looks worthwhile sampling.
CC: ... would like a sample from the white boulder; go ahead, Ed.
LMP-EVA: 125 on the LPM.
LMP-EVA: Okay. Where is it you're headed for, Al?
CDR-EVA: Well, - -
LMP-EVA: I'11 get the bag.