Otrobonita/noicy-space-talks huggingface dataset:
CC: And note that your ALPHA PARTICLE and X-RAY COVER are OPEN and X-RAY is ON throughout the Skyli - Skylab contamination photos, so you just don't worry about that.
CC: At 271:15, change your VERB 49 attitudes - 032, 299, O10.
CC: And your HIGH GAIN: PITCH, minus ho; YAW, 229.
CMP: Okay, minus h0 and 229. And an attitude of 032, 299, and 010.
CC: Okay, at 271:50, change the roll in the VERB 49 attitude to 140. And the HIGH GAIN is - -
CMP: From lhl to lh0?
CC: - - PITCH, minus - Right. And the HIGH GAIN's PITCH, minus 47, to YAW - and YAW, 59.
CMP: Minus 47 and 59.
CC: Roger. At 272:10 -
CC: VERB 49 attitude, 088, 082, 041, and the HIGH GAIN: PITCH, minus 49; and YAW, 220.
CMP: Okay, that's 088, 082 and, 041, and a minus 49 and 220 on the gain.
CC: Roger. At 273, delete "X-RAY, ON."
CC: At 273:30, delete "ALPHA PARTICLE/X-RAY COVER, OPEN."
CC: At 274:15, on your VERB 49 attitude -
CC: New attitude is 164, 134, 035; HIGH GAIN is minus 23 and 101.
CMP: Okay; 164, 134, 035; minus 23 and 101 at 273.
CC: Okay. And that's all I've got.
CMP: 0k_f.
CDR: Oh, shoot, Tony, you can do better than that. Haven't you got any more?
CC: Well, we're - we're - I'm sure FAO will have some hers in a few minutes, but that's guaranteed all until you get back.
CDR: Oh, okay. Well, good. I don't want to see FAO stopping this quick.
CC: And I guess we don't know why that high gain hung up while you were asleep. We're going to just continue trying normal procedures.
CMP: Hey, Tony, I'd like to do a - a VERB 46 and I think that was one of the ones that they had on my list of things that I shouldn't do.
CMP: Could you - could you see what conditions I need to satisfy in order to do that?
CMP: Like - I'm not sure whether I've got a switch out of position or what here, but it - it looks like the DAP isn't - isn't running. And I don't really understand why.
CC: We'11 work that.
CMP: Hey, I may have something out of configuration. I just don't see it right offhand.
CMP: I did find the switch.
CMP: How about our cycling the cryo fans while we can take them back off.
CMP: Remembered it. Huh?
LMP: Did John forget to turn off the cryos?
CC: Yes, you can cycle the cryo fans and our G&N says everything's all right here.
CMP: Okay. They're cycled. Yeah, we - I had the FDAI SELECT in 1; I was getting ready to do a GDC align when you - when you're - asked for these other things and I left it there and the needles weren't centering, so I was - I overlooked that one. Thank you.
CC: And, Ken, you're GO to start PTC any time you're ready. You're damped well enough.
CDR: Okay, the ATC is operating.
CMP: Okay, Houston. Standing by with the crew status report.
CDR: For the commander, working on day 11 to keep it in sync with the - with the clock around here. A-1 is down in the bow of the ship, stowed; A-3 is 7 hours; A-4 is none. For the CMP: B-l, 15067; 6-1/2; B-3, B-4, none. For the LMP: C-i, 21159; 6-1/2; C-3 is C-4 is none.
CDR: And all those sleeps were good to better.
CC: Good to better, huh? Okay.
CDR: Okay, and we're using - Yesterday we were using the day 10 meals to try to help clean out the · B-2, so we can stow the mapping camera film in there, and on that day for breakfast, the - on the - on the CDR's, scratch the fruit cock - fruit cocktail.
CDR: For dinner, scratch - for - for lunch, scratch the turkey and gravy and sub - substitute beef and gravy and add an orange drink, and then you can either scratch - We never got around to eating supper because we missed lunch and we substituted - we substituted sup - supper, or I mean lunch, for supper.
CDR: And on the CMP for breakfast, scratch the fruit cocktail, the sausage patties, and the spiced fruit cereal.
CDR: For lunch, scratch the vanilla pudding in a can; the white bread, 1; and the peanut butter pa- rentheses WP; and add a chocolate bar and coffee.
CDR: For the LMP, for breakfast, don't scratch any- thing. For lunch, or supper, your choice, scratch the - turkey and gravy and add beef and gravy and scratch the vanilla pudding in a can; the white bread, 1; and the peanut butter. Okay?
CC: Okay. We copy that. Ken didn't eat his peanut butter, huh?
CDR: We couldn't find it after we cleaned out - after we cleaned out that locker to stow the mapping c_nera cassette, the peanut butter mysteriously v_ished.
CC: Oh, I understand. Charlie stole it.
CDR: We're looking for the gUy _ we're looking for the g%y with the key to the peanut butter locker right n_w.
CC: You know, of course, you're going to have to eat up all that food on the day you lost.
CDR: How about if we do that aboard the ship?
CC: And, Apollo 16, the GAMMA RAY SHIELD, ON, per the Flight Plan.
CDR: 0k_y, she's ON.
CC: Apollo 16, Houston. If one of you have a chance, would you read out the battery compartment pres- sure reading?
CDR: 2.5 and holding.
CDR: Okay. Ken says he looked at it several times during the evening and it's been there most of the night.
CC: Okay, fine. 155/1 Tape Page 194t
CC: Okay. I tried to get Hank to send this up, but he wouldn't touch it either. I guess we'd like John on the biomed today and Charlie on it tonight. And just a reminder, for today we'd like items 5 and 6 in the crew status recorded.
CDR: Yeah, we - We're working both of those problems in.
CC: Okay, and we'd like to scrub the P52 at 262:30.
LMP: That was the only thing he had that he's looking forward to all day, and you scrubbed it.
CMP: You know how to hurt a guy, don't you?
CC: We're just trying to give you some time to hunt for the peanut butter.
CC: Apollo 16, Houston. Whenever you're ready for the geology, we'11 press on with that.
CC: Okay. Our first question here on the portable magnetometer - I forgot to re - I forgot to ask you. It was my omission. I was wondering what the temp label on the - on the electronics box read, if you remember.
CC: I was afraid of that. Okay. And for Charlie there, we'd like to verify that on the third EVA when he was driving out to station 11 with the polarizer on, that he used nominal camera settings. He didn't allow for the polarizer.
LMP: I did just what was on the top of the camera, Tony. Filter - I used 5.6 at 1/25 in the right position.
CC: Okay. That's fine - that's great - That's what we needed to know. Okay. The next question we'11 - we'11 get when we get the rocks back, but I think - Well, maybe the best way to do this is to describe a theory that's coming up as a result of the rocks you've - that you saw there. It looks as if - or - A possibility is that an older theory that was discarded a few years ago may be the right one, that the Cayley is an outer fluidized ejecta from Imbrium. Fra Mauro would be an inner ring, and then Imbrium sculpture would be outside of that, and then the Cayley would be sort of slosh that filled up all the valleys farther on out. But some of the questions that the geologists are - are pressing here is something that might help them define that. And a lot of it is that they're just - can't wait for the rocks to get back. But anyway, at station 11, you described some rocks you thought to be tuff. Looking back at station 5 and 6, after seeing these at 11, do you think you might have seen the same kind of rock there? What we're thinking about is where you described the - the square crystals and the needlelike crystals in clasts. And also, in the same question, were these crystals by themselves or were these - I mean, were the cras - clasts single crystals or were the crystals in clasts?
LMP: Recalling station 11, the - the rocks - that big rock in particular was a two-rock breccia, and - I feel. And within the - within the bluish-black matrix, which made up one clast - one of the rock types - there were needlelike crystals in that. And the white matrix also had crystals in it.
CDR: Tony, I'm afraid I'm not gonna do any better with the answer to these questions than I do on an average field geology trip where you got 10 stations.
CDR: And the rocks - You know, the rocks that we're picking up at 5 and 6 - that was a long time before station 11 and -
CC: Understand. Don't - don't worry about it - -
CDR: And I can't remember what the dang rocks looked like, to be honest with you.
CC: We're gonna have an antenna switch.
CC: Okay. I'11 try to stick here to questions that were impressions, and we're going to get the rocks back anyway. I don't - I don't really think there's ar_ point in pressing - pressing with questions where we'11 get the answers in a few days. Out- bound on EVA-3, you noted l- to 5-meter craters. And then, 10-meters craters going north and you called them secondaries. We're wondering what evidence there was that - if any, that they came from North Ray. Do you think you saw any second- aries from North Ray? And if so, where would they be? And could you compare them to the size and character of the South Ray secondaries?
LMP: There was out - out around Palmetto. There were a couple of craters, if I recall - I don't know you're going out that way, there were some craters with some blocks in them. And that's the reason I called it secondary. They - they were not as fresh - in fact, craters going toward North Ray were a lot more subdued than the craters going down to Stone Mountain. The North Ray had - s amething had - either they're older or something, but they were a lot more subdued and there was less blocks around. But we did have one or two that had some blocks in them, and that's why I called them secondaries.
CC: Okay. Were the blocks as angular as the ones you described from South Ray?
LMP: In general, our impressions were no.
CC: Okay. As you were coming off of - and going up into North Ray area, could you give a guess at the relative proportions of - and the size and shapes cf the whi_e and the dark rocks.
CC: In other words, was there a change ra - radially outward from Eorth Ray?
CDR: Yeah, this is just an impression, Tony. But I'd say that the - that the dark rock was less preva- lent as you went outbound, generally speaking - as you went away from the crater.
CDR: I could be 100 percent out - wrong on that. But we sure drove over a lot of - in the regolith there in particular. The upper layer in regolith, which contained these - I mean the - the ejecta blanket - which contained - the upper layer in the ejecta blanket contained a lot of boulders with just their heads sticking through, and those were the ones I was looking at because I was trying to go around them. And they - and I don't ever re- member seeing a - a dark breec - breecialike rock in those boulders.
CC: Okay, sounds good. And that very large rock you sampled up there, Charlie, you mentioned there was white and dark rock in the one rock. Could you describe the contact? Was one contained in the other, or did the contact meander through the whole rock?
LMP: Just sort of meandered through, Tony. It was a - it was a - again I'11 say a two-rock breccia, where it was a white and the black. And the clasts were very large, up to a meter size. I think the - the predominant rock was black. At least, the overall color gave you a black, but when you looked closely, you could see white clasts in it. So the - and the contact just meandered. I think we've got a couple of closeups of - of how the contact just meandered through. It was sort of a angular clast in this predominantly blackish matrix.
CC: Okay. The white rock, was it - that was in this big boulder - was it like the white rock that you sampled to the southwest of where you parked the Rover?
LMP: Yes, it was all - yes, uh-huh.
CC: Okay. Incidentally, that shadow cone that. you saw on the big boulder - Did it - Did the surface on the cone go right through the clasts, or did the clasts poke out kind of like nodules on the cone?
LMP: Well, they - No, it didn't. The shadow cone was in - was fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on your point of view, in - in the black matrix. And it was - it was a crystalline rock where the shadow cone occurred.
CC: Okay. Understand. Okay. Now that you've seen both North and South Ray ejecta blocks, could you say a few - a little bit about the ray material in the area from the I_ to Flag? Do you feel that all that material is characteristic of the bigger ray blocks that you identified near either North Ray or South Ray?
CDR: Yeah. I - -
CDR: I guess my impression might be that some - at some places, we had some of each and - but most of it was from South Ray. And around the LM, I'm - We saw - Once we got going toward North Ray, those - that material around the LM, by gosh, the breccia - and I collected several of thee at that last station- in hand specimens - some of them were like the material we got out of South Ray, clear of South Ray blanket, and - but several of them were from North Ray. At least, that was my impression.
CC: Okay. Understand, We always had the feeling - -
CDR: I'd say the most of them for - from South Ray.
CC: Okay. We seem to have the feeling that the rocks you were describing in the LM area were just some- how just a little bit different than what you were picking up either down South or up North_. I guess we'11 get that all straight when the rocks get home.
LMP: Tony, I think that's - that the breccias were dif- ferent. We've been - Maybe I'm going way out on a limb when I say this, but you - we've been col- lecting little fragments that have been floating around the cockpit here and looking at them, and they're crystalline - crystalline fragments that - with little white powdery exterior on part of it, and it - chalky appearance. And to me, this is - was characteristic of the rocks - some of the rocks around the Cayley, which - now I'm really leading to a tuff breccia - but the matrix being the ash with these crystalline frags, and the crystalline frags looked just like the rocks - the crystalline rocks around North Ray. At least, the black ones - at least, the couple I found here floating around. Now that's not to say that the fragments are - there are some fragments from whitish rocks, but they were a little bit dif - more difficult to see in this white matrix of what looks like tuff now, because it's very powdery.
CC: Okay. Understand. I wonder if you could describe that - those vesicles in that rock at station 13.
LMP: Well, they looked like - I call them drill holes. Let's see if John has a different word for it.
CDR: They look like those pipes that you see in rocks. Like Charlie says, they just look like drill holes.
CC: Okay. Understand - -
CDR: And they were about a couple of - up to 2 to 3 centimeters across.
CDR: - - in diameter, and perfectly circular. It appeared to me to be.
CC: And how deep did they go? Could you tell - I mean, did they go straight in, or did they seem to mean- der around?
CDR: They seemed to go straight in, and I couldn't tell how deep they were, because they only go in a - They disappear from sight. I didn't try reaching into any of them. 155/7 Tape
LMP: Tony, they were - there wasn't anything in them. You could just look in and you'd just - and they looked clean, and - and - just like somebody drilled out the rock.
CC: How about the orientation? Were they all perpen- dicular to the surface, or did they all have a preferred orientation?
LMP: I got the impression that they were parallel to the - to the surface. The rock was - As you stood _d faced the rock, you could see - see these little holes sticking out at you that - with most of them parallel to the - to the regolith.
CC: Okay. How about when you went around on the other side? Did they poke out at you there, or were the - What I'm trying to get a feeling is - Did it indicate a top and bottom in the rock, or did it just poke out all over the rock?
LMP: I'm - We don't - we only remember seeing them on one side, Tony. And that was the south side or the east side of the rock. The rock was facing - the side we saw them on was away from North Ray.
CC: Okay. Charlie, just before you left the - or during the LM closeout time, you started to make a remark about the change in character between the regolith - between the LM area and Stone Mountain, _nd somehow we got interrupted there and you didn't finish your statement. I wonder if you could fin- ish what you're going to say - if you happen to remember? Can you characterize the difference in rsgolith between the LM area and Stone Mountain?
LMP: Stand by 1 on that one.
LMP: Tony, I think that - We're just sitting here trying to decide - recall, and I - right now the only im- pression is that you tended to sink in more up on Stone Mountain, which could be downslope movement of particles, and - It was a - just very loosely consolidated up there. Everywhere you'd - you'd step, you'd sink in a couple of inches. And on the slopes around the LM, it was the same way. And even, in fact, where we landed. Up around the ALSEP site, it was very loosely consolidated, and as you walked you could - your foot would leave quite a imprint. And once we had pretty well turned over the surface around the LM and up on Stone, it would look like freshly raked ground and - to me. Stone Mountain - Smoky Mountain - or excuse me, North Ray, wasn't like that at all. It was very thin regolith and as we commented, we had a tough time raking because it was so rocky right up - within a couple of centimeters, at the top of the regolith. Over.
CC: Okay. Understand. I think your downslope move- ment there on Stone was probably - probably right. Although that wouldn't explain why it was harder at 5 and 6 than at 4. Well, anyway. Next ques- tion here - On that half-orange-sized rock that you put on the LPM, wonder if you could estimate - estimate how common that type rock was around.
LMP: Well, John picked up one just like it up on - It was a grab sample up on Sto - yes, Stone Mountain. And it was one of the crystalline rocks with that sugary crystalline texture to it. Huh? Yeah. And it was one of those whitish rocks that was a little dusty. I think that - I think it's fairly common. We'11 just have to see when we get the samples back, but it was my impression it was one of the three predominant rock types there.
CC: Okay. Understand. And the soil at station 8 - was it white underneath the top surface like you described up at station 4 and a lot of other stations? 155/9 Tape
CDR: We kicked - we kicked some of that, and I - I csn't remember whether it was or not at station 8.
CDR: I think it - Anyway, we sampled the soil sample there, and it's in the - it's in - it's in the box somewhere. But I can't - I certainly can't remember whether it was a - white underneath or not.
CC: Okay. Understand. And just subjectively, could you compare - now that you've been up fairly close to Smoky and on Stone - could you compare the two - two structures?
CC: Okay. Well, that's all of the geology - -
CDR: I - Okay, I wouldn't be surprised but what they aren't the same. When Ken and I and Charlie looked at it in this real low Sun angle, I - I guess that's - As far as geometric form, it cer- tainly looked - it was the hummocky material from the Descartes region is the way it looked. Right across Smoky - right through that whole region, it looked like a single unit, and - and I guess that would be my interpretation of it at this point. But it's pure speculation, but I would guess that tonight. I wouldn't be surprised but that we don't find a lot of these rock types on one region very close to another region being about the same.
CC: Okay. Understand. The reason - -
LMP: Tony - That was - I was just going - -
LMP: - - to add to that, I was just - I had the same impression. Looking at the - the South Ray, with the black and white streaks up the wall - up on the interior of the crater, and also at Baby Ray, being very stark in contrast. And then in North Ray, having that same impression but more subdued. And the rocks appearing to be very similar - I think there's a good lateral - and you guys can demolish this when you analyze the rocks, but right now mV impression is that - the - the two craters penetrated are very similar - or two very similar rock units. The white and the bluish black.
CC: Okay. Understand. The reason for a lot of these questions - and we know the answers are in the rock boxes and bags there and we'11 all get when you get home. But there's a lot of interest since the model - the model that we have of the whole alm_minllm- area is being changed because of the high to-silicone ratios and because of all of your rock descriptions there. And everybody's ... Well, we switched antennas there. There's a lot of push here to reformulate a new model. The press is kind of pushing, and you'11 probably get some questions this afternoon in your press conference. I was wondering if there's anything you wanted to ask the geology team about this - this new model, since I don't think you've ever been briefed on it.
LMP: No, I'd sure never heard it was slosh from the Imbrium at the Cayley.
CDR: I'd say it's premature to be making those kind of statements, Tony. And I would like to wait until we get all that data in and take a look at it. It's just too soon to be on - on hearsay and - and - and not having the real evidence and not having the - all the data analyzed. It's too soon to be making any major conclusions about the region. It's just - I can't see how you could do that.
CC: I sure agree with you, John. But, you know, everybody's - Everybody's excited and trying to press with it. But, anyway, I thought you might want to - to hear a little bit about that, if you're going to be asked on it this afternoon. That isn't - Now, of course, that isn't to say anyone's saying that Kant Plateau or Descartes Highlands are slosh. It's just the Cayley part. Anyway, that's all - that's all we have here, if you just want to press on there.
CDR: No, I just don't see how you can come to that conclusion this quick without any evidence, Tony. It's - It'd be nice to do that, but I - boy, I would - I would not press for that sort of thing this early in the game. And I wouldn't answer questions to anybody to amount to anything on that kind of stuff because that's too speculative.
CDR: In other words, it ain't good - it ain't good science.
CC: Yeah, John. I think - I think you're right on, and I hope they heard you in the backroom, because I - I think I said the same thing this morning.
CC: And we have a slight change to the Flight Plan at 264:10. We'd like to change the NOUN 79 dead- band to 2 degrees.
CMP: Okay. The NOUN 79 changed to 2 degrees at 264:10.
CC: Rcger. And I'11 see y'all tonight. I'11 come back and tuck you in.
CMP: Okay, Tony. Thank you.
LMP: Helle.
CDR: Gc ahead, Henry. Good morning to you.
CC: Gcod morning. Like to give you a little change here - or an addition, I guess, at 264:50 - waste water dump. Says there we're supposed to specify the percentage and that's 35 percent. However, we'd like to call the start and stop - start and stop of that maneuver. EECOM would like something to do this morning.
CMP: Okay. You going to put us in attitude and do a midcourse correction with it?
CC: I don't guess we need that - -
LMP: Tell EECOM we got some - Hey, Henry. Tell EECOM we got some good pictures of a dump when we were stationkeeping up there while y'all were deciding whether we could land. Ken did his dump, and we had perfect lighting for it and so we got some DAC film of it and it was really coming out of there.
CDR: Not only that, he had perfect position on the stationkeeping when he started to dump and it just pushed him right over to the - It just pushed him right over out of plane.
CC: Hey, I bet that was pretty, too, wasn't it?
CDR: Hey, there you go. Just a second.
CMP: 266 hours. Go.
CC: Roger. Delete "GAMMA RAY, SHIELD, OFF." And a little further down there at about 266:15, delete that whole line where it refers to the "GAMMA RAY, GAINSTEP, on," et cetera.
CMP: That's deleted.
CC: Okay. And at 268 hours, at the top of the page - page 374.
CC: Delete that GAMMA RAY comment.
CC: That's all of them for right now. Thank you a lot, fellows.
CC: Later on in the day, we're gonna do some of these gainsteps, but we'11 call them real time.
CMP: Okay. We'11 be awaiting your call. Or where else would we be?
CC: Ken, sometime when it's convenient - anytime you cen get to it, we'd like to get a film status.
LMP: Okay, Henry. He'11 - Thank you.
CDR: Okay. You mean you Want him to pull out every magazine and see how it's doing, or what do you w_mt?
CDR: And ask why: I mean, because we got some of these things stowed where you wouldn't believe. It's not gonna be too easy. We're gonna have to take the entry stowage apart to get at them.
CC: We don't want to outstow anything. If he - If he's got it written down up there somewhere, that will be satisfactory; whatever his records show. If he doesn't, let's just forget about it.
CMP: _nat are you looking for? What are you looking for, Henry? Maybe I can - I can help you. If you you're looking for mags that have film on them, I can - that might not be so hard to track down, but - do you just want to know what pictures we took?
CC: We got an antenna switch coming.
CC: Ken, I haven't gotten a real satisfactory answer on this. Apparently, this is for the Photolab. They just kind of want to got - get an idea of your usage. But the way it looks to me, I wouldn't - I wouldn't do anything special, unless you got it written down there somewhere.
CDR: Okay, Henry. You can tell the Photolab that they're in real trouble, because they're going to be developing film for a long time.
CMP: Most of the 70s are - are - are already exposed, with maybe like 10 frames remaining on each or something. And the 16s, I don't really know what their status is. We'd have to go through and look at each mag. It's my impression that most of them are only partially used. There's about four that I can think of offhand are empty. And we'11 know all that as soon as we get out of the ship.
CC: Okay. That's good enough, Ken.
CC: Charlie, your better half says she would like for you to bring your mustache home with you.
LMP: I'm not gonna do it.
CDR: Henry, what she said was - she said was she'd be tickled if Charlie brought his mustache home with him.
LMP: I can't wait to shave this off. We've had a little failure with this shaving gear and that's our prob - that's been our problem.
CDR: Hey, Henry. I got the biomed hooked up now. Ask the friends on your left there how it looks.
CDR: Okay. How does it feel?
CMP: Can you tell us if we have the tape recorder running on board in a forward direction, so we can record on it. And looks like we need about an hour's worth of tape. Or are they in a playback cycle, or what are they doing?
CC: Okay, I'11 check it, Ken.
CDR: We're gonna start checking these light flashes.
CC: Okay. The TAPE RECORDER is in REWIND and as soon as we get an antenna switch, we'11 start it off for you.
CMP: Okay. I still think these things are manufactured by the same guy that makes the emperor's clothes.
LMP: Don't believe it. They're everywhere! They're everywhere X
CC: 16, your TAPE RECORDER is running FORWARD.
CMP: Thank you, Henry.
CC: 16, Houston. The light-flash folks request that if you see one of those things and - identify your- self when you call the mark so they - if the tape is bad, they'11 be able to still tell who made the mark.
CC: Apollo 16, Houston. The Pis say that you should be calling your marks also down on the loop - on the air to ground.
CMP: ... I think Charlie's seen about seven or eight.
CDR: They're just not coming out too well today_ Hank.
LMP: M_RK. There's one, Henry, for you - right eye - that's Duke. On the bottom - bottom of the right eye is a little bright dot.
CDR: MARK. In the outboard of the left eye - Young. A dot flashed that terminated toward the center.
CDR: MARK. Soft photoflash in the center of the - center right of the right eye - Young.
CDR: MARK. Dot in the upper left center of the left eye - Young.
CDR: MARK. Light streak in the lower part of the left eye - Young.
LMP: MARK. Duke - right eye, upper center - a thin white streak.
CDR: MARK. Young - and in the upper right eye, a couple of streaks from - looked like they were going from left to right - out at - about 2 o'clock out.
LMP: MARK. Duke - bright dot, lower center, right eye.
LMP: MARK. Duke - right eye, upper outboard, a bright dot.
LMP: MARK. Duke - upper right eye - right eye, upper center, a bright dot.
LMP: MARK. Bright dot, very center, right eye - Duke. 156/3 Tape
LMP: MARK. Duke - upper right eye - a fuzzy flash.
CDR: MAR}(. Young - a streak at the top of the right cenl_er of the right eye, going from - going out the top. Ok_f,
LMP: Hank. The first part of that - I was looking out the plus-X. Now I'm turning over on my right side and I'm looking out the Y-axis now - out win- dow 5. And I'11 see if that's going to make any difference.
CDR: Ok_f, Hank. On the first part of mine, I was - first 30 minutes, I was right side up in the LEB with my head against the optics covers. And now I'm upside down in the LEB with my head against the optics covers to see if that makes any difference.
UNKNOWN: MARK. Faint white dot on the left eye, lower in- board - Duke.
LMP: MARl{. Duke - lower right eye - a faint, fuzzy flash.
CDR: MARK. Young - left eye - a streak going from top to 'oottom in the - in the outboard part of the left eye.
UNKNOWN: MARK. Duke - right eye, lower center - a bright dot.
LMP: MARK. Bright dot - upper right eye - Duke.
LMP: MARK. Left eye - bright dot - Duke - outboard.
LMP: MARK. Duke - a fuzzy flash in the upper left eye, simultaneously with a bright dot in the right eye.
LMP: MARE. Upper left eye - little faint dot. That was Duke.
CC: Apollo 16, Houston. We show your ALFMED period up.
CC: And, 16, when you get ready to maneuver to this new attitude, if you don't have Bravo 1 enabled, your present jet configuration is okay.
CMP: Okay, Hank. I'11 check it.
CDR: That new attitude I went to was great, Hank. I almost went to sleep.
CC: Roger. And I gather that ALFMED must be a pretty effective shield. I didn't hear Ken saying any- thing.
CDR: He wasn't supposed to use it.
LMP: We already did that on the outbound leg.
LMP: He was doing something, but it was all audible.
CMP: Hank, what was the jet you wanted to have me turn off?
CC: Roger. Bravo 1, so it won't fire in the SIM bay. If you used Bravo 2 and Delta 1 for roll, you'11 be okay just to leave that configuration and ma- neuver on to the next attitude.
CMP: Okay, Hank. They - that's not the jet configura- tion they gave us this morning because I did have the SIM bay jets - No, I'11 have to look up those jets I had this morning, but Bravo 1 was one of the ones I had turned on.
CC: Roger. We understand that, Ken. The reason is that when we stop the PTC the - we're - in the configur- ation you had, you'd probably use - you'd have to use Bravo i to stop it, and it would fire into the SIM bay. It probably never fired during the PTC.
CMP: Ha_k, this one you want to do is a normal PTC? Or do you want to use this one as a - as the enabled- jet version.
CC: Roger, Ken. We'd like to do it in that same pro- cedure that - that Tony read to you this morning. And, for the next one at about 275:50, we'11 go back to the regular procedures.
CMP: Okay. And you want to use the same jets that Tony read me this morning?
CC: Roger. And those, I guess, should be the ones you have enabled now.
CMP: Except I got - this morning I had all B/D ROLLs en- abled.
CC: Okay, we'd like to start up in single jet, which is what you have now.
CMP: Okay. I'11 use the jet configuration I have now, then.
CC: Roger. And, I guess - did Tony read you the change that we wanted the 2-degree dead band?
CMP: And how about the rate? Now, he read me 0.3 this morning, and normally we do 0.42. I take it 0.3 is what you're really after.
CC: Let me doublecheck that one.
CC: Okay, 0.3 is the correct rate.
CC: And, Ken, when we get to attitude, we'd just like to hold that before you start the P20, so we can dump the tape recorder.
CC: Ken, we need to get the high gain, and I guess we need you to do a MANUAL ROLL about 30 degrees left.
CC: And, in regard to the urine dump coming up, the doctors think they see a correlation between the urine dump times and the dump port temperature. So, just to see if this really works, and if it does work, we may be able to get rid of all of this recording stuff. We'd like for you to identify which bags you are dumping and give us a mark at start and the end of the dump.
CMP: Run that by one more time, please?
CDR: Looks like you guys don't understand the problem, do you? I can't believe that. We all dumped the urine into the same bag.
CC: Okay, give us a start and stop.
CDR: We been stowing - yeah, but, Hank, we're all dumping into the same big white bag and then that gets dumped over to the side. Is that what you want? A total volume from all three of us?
CDR: Did you get my last, Henry?
CC: Roger. They Still would like to know the start and stop times.
CMP: (Laughter) Be our guest.
CDR: What do you - start and stop of what? You know, we let this thing purge, line out, and then we let it sit there until we're sure everything's all cleaned out - afterwards, to make sure we don't plug things up. I guess we can tell you when we do each step, but we don't really know when those bags are empty.
CC: Well, that would be my guess, also, but can you guess at it? Okay, if you can't, forget it.
CDR: Okay, Henry. Here's what we've been doing with the urine.
CDR: Is this attitude okay for you, Hank?
CC: John, could you repeat what you said. INCO cut the antenna off about the time you started?
CDR: Houston, is this attitude okay for the high gain?
CC: Th_J's affirmative. It's a good attitude.
CDR: Okay, now. Let me tell you what we've been doing with this stuff. We've been using the Gemini [?] bags and then dumping it into a big white bag. And it's all in there now, all mixed together, and nobody knows whose is whom's. And - and, further- more, we don't know when we dump that big white bag when - We know when we start to do it, but we don't know whenever it finishes. Because you can't see the inside of the bag. You just don't have a you feel for that. So, what you just do is just let it run until you think you ought to quit and look and see if you've got particles on the out- side. And even after you quit, there's still par- ticles on the outside.
CC: Roger. Copy, John. Why don't we forget about that?
CDR: Okay. I would be glad to do it, if I thought it would give you any data. But I can't see how it'11 give you anything you could use.
CC: Oksy, John. What we're trying to do is find some way to make the procedures a little cleaner on - on Apollo 17. So they think they can get some useful data out of this, and if you can just give us a mark when you start, maybe they, £rom the temperature curves, can tell just about when it ends. They got a - they're trying to get a cali- bration on how the temperature of the port changes during the dump.
CDR: Yeah, but - are you sure that, for example, that we don't have at least thousands of chamber dumps that'11 tell you the same thing?
CC: Okay. They said the chamber data is what got them looking at the possibility of doing this.
CDR: Okay, Hank, I'11 tell you what we'11 do. We'11 give you mark when we start and a mark when we stop.
CDR: Purge line heater, Houston - on, Houston.
CC: 16, Houston. When you get ready to dump the waste water, we'd like to dump to 49 percent. That'11 leave us enough for the Skylab contamination.
CMP: Okay, dump to 49 percent.
CC: 16_, Houston. We can go ahead and start spinning up, but first we've got to load the VERB 49 with a current roll attitude and PRO going to attitude and then start the spinup. And for the spinup, we'd like to use Delta 2 in addition to the Jets you now have configured so we can get a couple of spinups, and then turn Delta 2 back off.
CMP: Okay, we add Delta 2 for the start and then turn it off.
CC: Th_'s affirmative.
CC: Ken, I guess you've figured out the reason we got caught there is we can't load the NOUN 79 in option 2.
CMP: Yeah, I just figured that out, Hank. Is what I did there to fix it okay?
CC: Okay, you restarted it after going to ACCEL COMMAND, is that right?
CMP: Yeah, I restarted it, then didn't mean to stop it, just kind of kept it going. Is that attitude looking all right or - I don't have any way of reading out where the dead band is centered now. Would you like for me to just stop and start all over again?
CC: Okay, we'11 take a look at it.
CC: O_y, the - the center's only about a half a degree off from where we wanted it. So that's good.
CMP: Okay; thank you, Hank.
CDR: That ain't good enough from past experience, is what you're saying?
CC: I'm not saying that at all, John; just thought I would help if I could.
CDR: Okay. You are, Hank. I'm just teasing.
CDR: Looks like 49 to us.
CC: Roger. We show about 50, now.
CDR: Okay, she's shut down.
CDR: Hank, we're gonna start, and we're gonna give you something in a little bag first, and I'11 give a mark when we start it and when we stop it and when I see particles start to slow down, and then we'11 go emptying the bigger bag.
CDR: MARK. It's started.
CDR: Okay, the bag's empty and I don't see anything out the side, yet. It's started out the side, now. Okay, we're leaving the bag on purge.
CDR: Okay, the particles are starting to slow down, hut they spurt every now and then. Man, there's a big blast.
CC: Ken, do you have an estimate of the quantity in the little bag?
CDR: No, there's no way to get that (laughter).
CMP: You're supposed to give us that.
CDR: That's what you're doing. You're supposed to tell us that (laughter).
CMP: It's whatever 5 psi does through a 1/20,000 hole that's modified by ice.
CDR: Okay, we've got the bag off. We're getting ready to start another one, and most of the particles have stopped.
CDR: OZ_ay, we're running another bag.
CDR: Okay, that bag's empty.
CDR: There's another bag started.
CDR: That one is empty -
CDR: M__RK.
CMP: Okay, we're starting on our big bag.
CDR: Aad it's dumping now.
CMP: Well, it looks like our big bag is empty somewhere in here.
CDR: You know, Houston, we think one of the problems you're gonna have with this kind of a - a measuring thing is how - how clogged up your filters are. Like we don't think it's dumping as much right now as it was when it started because we think the filter's getting clogged.
CC: That's a good point, John.
CC: We also see that if we're gonna do sequential dumping, we're gonna have to wait between the dumps, you know, to allow the nozzle - the temper- ature to stabilize.
CDR: We're gonna turn the dump valve off and change filters.
CDR: Okay, we started on another bag.
CDR: Bag's empty.
CDR: Okay, Houston, we got an ISS light and a 37777.
CC: Roger .... understand. Stand by.
CDR: Okay, the eight ball didn't move. That's the ICDU fail light is what it is.
CC: Okay, just stand by. We're looking at it.
CDR: Okay, the NOUN 20s all look pretty good - -
CMP: ... a - -
CDR: Yeah, ... is okay.
CDR: Okay, no switches were being touched at the time.
CC: Okay, John. We saw the same thing you did and everything looks good; we're talking it over now.
CDR: Need a program alarm reset.
CDR: ICDU fail transient, huh?
CC: Apollo 16, Houston. We'd like for you to go through mal procedure G&N, number 6 on page 28.
CMP: Okay, Hank, when we go into number 6 procedure, we come down, and the logical answer out of block 2 is that the - you can reset the program lights and the ISS light goes off all on its own. It's only on for a very short period of time. And that s_rs that it's a transient condition and stops. I -- guess we could take a look at going down through the "no" path and try block 6, but I'd like to have some concurrence on that before we do it.
CC: We concur - like for you to go to block 6.
CMP: You had some bad comm there; I understand you want us to go to block 6.
CMP: Okay. Before we started on that, we've decided to take a look at 1620 and it seems to be counting in all three axes. And they agree with what's on the FDAI. We're gonna start into block 40 now. And I'm going on the VOX so I can talk and read at the same time.
CC: Roger, Ken. Before you do this, would you check y_w real carefully. We're showing about a de- gree difference between the ISS att and the ICDUs.
CMP: Say again, Hank. You - you were blocked out right in the middle.
CC: Roger. Could you check the yaw axis real closely; we're showing about a degree difference down here. The other two axes look pretty good.
CMP: I - I repeat, the FDAI and the NOUN 20s look like they're in as close agreement as I can read. You can't tell a degree on the FDAI down here anyway.
CMP: There's that much dispersion in the instrumentation. You know that. Okay; can we proceed?
CC: Proceed.
CMP: Okay, we did. And it's counting again, and it's gone back to the same numbers - well, it Just blanked again. Let's see here; maybe I was pre- mature. That's where it zeroed. Yeah, it's still showing about the same numbers, Hank. The biggest change was in the _ no they're all - they're all ball park, within readability, from one reading to the other.
CMP: Okay. So out of that, I come up with a "yes" answer, and I'm going - looking at block 12.
CMP: I guess in order to do this block 12, I have to be in CMC CONTROL, is that not correct?
CC: Stand by. SCS should be okay, Ken.
CMP: Okay. I had no displacement; I did a VERB 43 ENTER, and I loaded R-i, 2, and 3 - and I got no needle displacement. Is another ENTER required or something?
CC: Ken, we'd like for you to repeat the procedure, starting with the VERB 43, and do it very slowly so we can watch it down here.
CMP: Okay; there's VERB 43 - ENTER, plus 00250 ENTER, plus 00333 ENTER, plus 00333 ENTER, and the needles pulsed out and right back to zero.
CC: Roger. Copy. The needles did jiggle, but they went back to zero.
CC: 16, Houston. Stand by a little bit, and we'11 digest this a while.
CC: Apollo 16, Houston. The computer looks good to us, and we're checking now to make sure that there's nothing left out in mal procedures. 157/7 Tape
CMP: Okay. Would you like for me to try them in the - in CMC CONTROL, and I'11 go to ACCEL COMMAND so we won't get any attitudes?
CC: Okay, Ken; give it a go.
CMP: Same thing, Hank, as soon as I hit ENTER, they pulse out, and it looks like they go to where they belong, and then as soon as it comes back, it just goes out and comes right back.
CMP: Hank, looks like one other thing that would check the D to A's would be - how about if I load a - just a NOUN 22 of all zeros, and then call up the VERB 62?
CC: Ken, we'd like to have you just stand by, just a minute, here, and - while we smoke this over.
CC: Roger. What we'd like to do, Ken, is call up VERB 48. And on NOUN 46, set the first digit, digit A, to 0 to kill the DAP; do a VERB 46 ENTER; and then we want to go back to block 12 and start with a VERB 43. The boys in the backroom here think that the procedure won't work if the DAP is running even though we're in SCS.
CMP: Okay. I have done this in the simulator, and it didn't work there, but we'11 try this in just ... Okay. You want to set the - you to kill the DAP as number 1 step.
CMP: Okay, then you want to go back and go through step 12.
CMP: Okay. I have to do a VERB 46 on this now. That was one of the no-no's we had the other night. Is that okay?
CC: That's okay now. That was just to protect the EMP.
CMP: Okay, just ... the EMP. Thank you.
CMP: Okay. And now that's working like a champ.
CDR: Yeah, it works just like it's supposed to, now.
CC: Roger. Somebody just got the same results over in the CMS, I understand.
CMP: Hank, we'd like to - I'd like to run a P52 here and see - see what kind of torquing angles we get. That would tell us whether or not we really had any kind of - of a hangup in the A to D section. As short as it was, we couldn't have gotten very far off in attitude.
CMP: Say again. We were in PTC at the time, so there was bound to be some rates going at the time.
CC: 16, Houston. Our SIM bay's gonna get too cold, if we don't change attitudes. We'd like for you to roll to 280 degrees and then do the P52.
CMP: Okay. I'11 roll to 280.
CDR: Houston, we just wanted you to know that the heart rates that you're seeing or not seeing are due to the exercise period - not the ISS light.
CDR: Although, that could be a factor.
CDR: He just doesn't know what an ISS light will do to a 0oy_
CDR: I've timed it myself, i only got up to 100. Bet- ter check his gear.
CC: Ken, our pitch has got off a little bit. We need about a 120 degrees in pitch also.
CMP: Is that for thermal reasons, Hank?
CC: Ken, you want to keep an eye on your roll?
CMP: Well, how about telling me what attitude you pre- cisely would like.
CMP: Okay. I can do that. Tape
CMP: Okay', Houston; there are the angles. It does look like that middle gimbal is - might be a little large, but it's - it was late last night when we had the last alignment, so that may be - that may be nominal.
CC: Roger. We agree it has been quite a few hours since the last P52.
CC: Cles_ the torque, Ken.
CC: Ken, the SIM Bay's warmed up and - it looks like we give the computer and the software a clean bill of health. And we're suspecting we might of had a - a transient or something in the CDUs, so G&C would like to maneuver back to about the attitude where we had this thing and sweep out plus or minus 5 degrees in each axis one at a time and see if we can get another glitch. Now, we're trying to search those low-order bits because we think that's where the problem occurred. The attitude is 1.82.5, 130.7, 039.7, and we'd like for you to stay' in SCS.
CMP: Can you tell me why you want to stay in SCS, please?
CC: Just to be conservative, Ken.
CMP: Okay', that's Just - All right.
CC: And_. Ken, when you get to the attitude, we'd like to sweep this 5-degree band there with a very low rate, say maybe using MINIMUM IMPULSE.
CDR: You guys wouldn't want to consider the very con- servative approach of Just avoiding this 5-degree area on the 8-ball, would you?
CC: Well, we don't want to do that yet.
CMP: You want a sweep of one axis at a time? Is that what you're talking about, Hank? Say like from - 125 to 135 in the - in the pitch_
CMP: Okay, Hank, do you have any preferred axis first? We'11 take yaw first.
CMP: Okay, Hank, is 5 degrees sufficient to cover all your bits?
CC: They're checking. That'11 do it, Ken. Five de- grees will cover the low-order bits.
CMP: Okay. Going back the other way with yaw.
CC: Ken, we'd like to do roll next - for the next axis.
CMP: Okay, Hank, what do I do at the end of this little sweep?
CC: Okay. We didn't get it, did we?
CMP: No, sir. Sure didn't.
CC: Stand by a second, Ken. plan.
CC: Okay, Ken. Here's the The G&C gives a hard- ware clean bill of health. So, I - they're going to smoke over the data now and look at why we got that little transient in there. In the meantime, it looks like we're safe to proceed with the Flight Plan. We'd like to pick it up at 267 - go into this Sco X-1 attitude. And, since we're real fat on RCS fuel, we'd like to do the maneuvers between these different attitudes today where we're getting data in different - different attitude at a faster rate, a half degree per second. And if that's all right with you, then, we'11 get the X-ray on now which is called for in the Flight Plan and then start maneuver into the Sco X attitude and I guess we can use CMC for that.
CMP: Okay, I'11 - I concur with using the CMC and do you have any feel for midcourse 7?
CC: I'11 get an answer on that, Ken. Right now, it's looking like about 3 feet per second, Ken.
CMP: Okay. I can - think we can cover that.
CC: Apollo 16, COMMAND RESET, and OMNI Charlie.
CMP: Houston, 16. How do you read?
CC: Say again, 16.
CMP: Thought I'd just send y'all - got you back on the OMNZ - or correction, HIGH GAIN now, Hank. Say how do you read?
CC: Okay. Read you 5 by 5 and we got HIGH BIT RATE and locked up, looks like.
CC: Ken, if you got a minute. I've got a little proce- dure here we want to try. Another little trouble- shoot, if you're free.
CDR: Just a minute. We'11 get him back on comm.
CMP: Hello, Henry.
CC: Hello, there. We got something we'd like to try here, and its purpose is to determine whether or not the time delay on the CDU fail detection cir- cuitry is so short that - apparently normal CDU movements can trigger the alarm. Now the normal time delay is 2 to 10 seconds. And we got a proce- dure here we'd like for you to run and time - time this thing, and see if that might be our culprit.
CMP: Oka_r. Read it to me.
CC: Okay. We'd like for you to go the SCS control, MIN, LOW_ and uncage BMAG so we can hold this attitude pretty close. Then we'11 do a VERB 25 NOUN 7 ENTER, 12 ENTER, 20 ENTER, i ENTER, and when you ENTER on the l, we want you to start your stopwatch, and as accurately as possible, get the time from the ENTER until you get to ISS warning light. And after you get -