# TAO/Meetings/2011-11-03

Online Meeting in AdobeConnect from 1000 to 1200 (UTC+1).
Participants: Stijn Bannier, Beat Estermann, Simon Lüke, Markus Marquard, Andreas Roellinghoff

## Wikiversity site / project: overview, further development

TAO project page: clarification on the 3 main sections representing different approaches.
* Handbook
** Creation of content for the handbook; "formalized", "distilled".
* Learning and Research Activities
** Information belonging to all kinds of activities can be gathered here; from Wikiversity-centered actions to simple documentation of results that emerged somewhere else within TAO in general.
** can lead to contents for the handbook.
* Community of Practice
** people propagating the project, people interested in learning more about TAO issues, people ready to share their experiences in TAO relevant fields.

## Working process

TAO/Activities + Production of TAO/Handbook: both sections may have different participants / stakeholders concentrating on just one or both aspects.
Beat suggests w:Design Thinking as method to approach the activities in Wikiversity. See TAO/Organizational issues.

### Project plan

To be found in TAO/Project plan which shall be listing (table):
* activities/topics/modules
* short explanations
* target groups
* language in which the activity is done
* time window
* contact persons (e.g. for questions on the topic, ideas for restructuring, ...)
As agreed in the last meeting it should be
* problem oriented,
* on a persona approach.

### Ideas for Learning and research activities (modules)

First step (until meeting in Bern): ramp up pages for the following modules and formulate precise questions.
Do not forget:
* Evaluation process of the community activities (Design Thinking).
* Use this upcomping phase to "identify and get to know the target groups" (involvement, interviews).
* Silberwissen / silver knowledge (Markus)
** starting point: evaluation report (for the advisory board), which is very theoretical.
** tasks for this activity: bring in examples, make it more colourful and vivid.
** next steps: invite the wikimedia referents and also maybe some seniors.
** Wikimedia DE: main focus is now on multiplicating in Germany.
* Introduction into TAO/Wikiversity CoP (Simon, Beat, Patrick Kenel?)
** With help of the Wikipedia partners and Wikimedians
** Guided tour / Overview
** learning by doing
** role model learning
** reflect on first steps on Wikiversity; gather experiences
** create meaningful content.
* How to create learning and research modules (Andreas Ninck, Andreas R.)
** technical stuff in Wikiversity + how to add content and new activities (modules) to Wikiversity
** Process (cf. Design Thinking)
** analogue to Andreas Ninck's work
* Workshop "Do's and Don'ts regarding Volunteers" (Stijn, Kai)
** + target groups
** "Do you think, they want to put the results in Wikiversity?"
** 1. step: push
*** create a resource / white paper: just have some guidelines or rules documented.
** 2. step: pull
*** How to make it interactive?
*** How to associate further stakeholders?
Ideas for later on:
* Target groups / language challenges
* Introduction to the handbook
** According to design thinking principle the current draft is enough right now.
* Jon: "Preliminary study 60+ on online communities" (action research team)
** This could give an outlook on the final product.
* FFI - Freie Fahrt ins Internet
** This needs more concretion.
Challenges:
* regarding language
* technical

## Miscellaneous

* Further guide lines, approach to participate: TAO/Participating
* Media files (formats, ...): TAO/Media files and licenses
* TAO-Logo: Licensing? cc-by-sa?
** wait for answer from (Beat)
* first images for the project (Simon)
** Where to put? Commons? Specific project? -> Ask Wikimedians.
* Licenses
** Multiple options within Wikimedia. Suggestion: one actual recommendation (per media type). We should push what is recommended in WikimediaCommons, i.e. GFDL along with cc-by-sa-all. See Commons:Choosing_a_license

## Next steps, dates, what to remember

Discussion at the meeting in Bern:
* "Meta process" (Beat, Andreas N., Andreas R.)
* Eventually: Show the Wikiversity project
* Open questions:
** How quickly do/can we involve participants?
** SeniorKS / Grundtvig?
Mailinglist for the community who is / will be pushing the Wikiversity part of the project and / or the community of practice:
* community@thirdageonline.eu (public mailinglist) (Beat)
Unresolved items from the notes of the last meeting on TAO/Meetings/2011-10-20:
* Facebook (Page vs. Group)
Next meeting: online will take place after Bern