# Testimony of Saidullah Khalik

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Saidullah Khalik was one of the Uyghur captives in Guantanamo.

# Testimony of Saidullah Khalik

The Personal Representative call Saidullah Khalik as a witness for the Detainee.
The Tribunal President advised the Detainee that when the witness comes in, the detainee will be allowed to question him first, then the Personal Representative, the Recorder and then the Tribunal Members.
The witness, Saidullah Khalik, was sworn.

## Detainee's Questions to Witness Saidullah Khalik

| Q: | They want to know if we were in the camp, and left the camp together. I want you to testify for that. |
| A: | I will testify for you. |
| Tribunal President: | You may begin. |
| Witness: | I don't know where to begin. |
| Tribunal President: | Mahnut will ask you questions and then the others will ask you questions. |
| Tribunal President: | Do you have have any questions for the witness? |
| Detainee: | You can ask questions. We can move on. |

## Personal Representative's Questions to Witness Saidullah Khalik

| Q: | When did you meet Mahnut? |
| A: | I don't know the exact time, but I met him when I was in Jalalabad. |
| Q: | Were you in the training camp together? |
| A: | Yes. |
| Q: | Who were the people training in the camp? |
| A: | It's not someone telling us what to do, it's volunteer. People train themselves. |
| Q: | What kinds of people were at the camp? Anyone besides Uighurs? |
| A: | No. |
| Q: | Do you know who ran the camp? |
| A: | Abdul Haq. |
| Q: | Where is the camp in relation to Jalalabad? |
| A: | I don't know what kind of relationship they have in Jalalabad, but the village belongs to Jalalabad City. |
| Q: | Did you ever encounter any Taliban or Al Qaeda at the camp? |
| A: | No. |
| Q: | Were you ever asked to join in fighting in Afghanistan? |
| A: | If I don't see them, how would they ask me those kinds of questions? |
| Q: | Were you and Mahnut captured together? |
| A: | Yes. |

## Tribunal Members Questions for Witness Saidullah Khalik

| Q: | Can you tell us what the difference is between a Uigher and a Turkistani, please? |
| A: | All the Uighurs are being called Turkistani. |
| Q: | Is there any difference between the two words? |
| A: | There is no difference between Uighur and Turkistani because we use our country name for Uighur. |
| Q: | Which is Turkistan? |
| A: | That's why we call ourselves that, we use our land name. |
| Q: | So the goal of the Uighur people is to establish a free country called Turkistan? |
| A: | Yes. |
| Q: | We have heard the name of a group today called the Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement. Can you tell us anything about this group? |
| A: | Because you call this group the Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, we don't call it that. We didn't join that group. When we came to that place [training camp] no one called it the Islamic Movement. We don't call it by that name. Everything is volunteer and nobody asked us to join an organization. Our goals were just to go there to get trained. |

## Tribunal President's Questions to Witness Saidullah Khalik

| Q: | Did you train at any other training camp besides the one in Afghanistan? |
| A: | No. |
| Q: | Did you receive weapons training at the camp in Afghanistan? |
| A: | I wasn't really trained on the weapon, I just learned a little bit about how to use it. |
| Q: | What did you hope to accomplish by attending this training camp? |
| A: | It's in the best interest of the Uighur people for me to defend myself because I was living in China. |
| Q: | This Tribunal thanks you for your testimony and you are excused. Guards, please return the witness. |
| A: | Can I talk? |
| Q: | No. Only in reply to questions. If Mahnut has no more questions, we thank you for your testimony. |
| A: | The questions you asked don't really apply to his [Detainee's] case. |
| Q: | The questions we are asking, we feel apply in our determination of his [Detainee's] enemy combatant status. You are excused. |