# Latter Day Saints' Messenger and Advocate/Volume 1/Number 9/Gospel No. VIII

Gospel No. VIII.
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From reflection, we have been forced into the conclusion that the gospel was as well known among the ancients as among any other people, not even the ante-deluvians or the people before the flood excepted. We are satisfied, that wherever the fruits of the gospel are or were found, there the gospel was also; for nothing else could produce the effects of the gospel, but the gospel itself, or else the gospel was unnecessary; for men could have enjoyed all the blessings which it confers, without its existence. And if any thing besides the gospel could produce the same effects of the gospel, then it was vain, and worse than vain, for the Savior to say concerning it, "That he that believed it not, should be damned;" for they could have been saved, if it were admitted, that something else could produce the same effect of the gospel. For instance if men could have the spirit of prophesying, and prophecy without obeying the gospel, then it was in vain for the Savior to say, "That he that believeth not shall be damned;" for who does not know that a prophet could be saved. But the truth is, all the prophets from righteous Abel down until the present time had obeyed the gospel, and had their communion with God by virtue of their obedience to it.
We have evidence, I think, extant in the scriptures, which is not easily set aside, though cavilers may cavil at page 132it, that Abraham had a perfect knowledge of the gospel. We want it distinctly understood, that when we speak of the gospel, we mean the whole system, with all its ordinances and laws as proclaimed on "the day of pentecost;" for we know nothing of the gospel distinct from baptism for the remission of sins, and the gift of the Holy Spirit by the laying on of the hands of those who are called and ordained unto this power. Take these things away and where is the gospel? We answer no where—there is no such thing. For distinct from those things, there is no salvation; if there is salvation without baptism for the remission of sins, and the gift of the Holy Spirit, by the laying on of the hands, we know nothing of it; for God our heavenly father does not work at random; but by the strictest rule, even one established by himself for the rule of his conduct in relation to his creature man, before the world was; by that rule he has worked, and will work, until time is no more.
In a former part of this treatise, we examined the ground on which our opinion was founded that Abraham had a knowledge of the gospel. We shall now notice some things said in the scriptures about Moses.
The Savior, in the 5th chap. of John's gospel and 46th verse, says to the Jews, "Had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me, for he wrote of me." And in the 11th chapter of the epistle to the Hebrews and 26th v., "Paul says that Moses esteemed the reproaches of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt." From both of these quotations we learn this fact that Moses had a knowledge of Christ, to some extent at least; and we think if examined a little, it will be found that his knowledge was pretty extensive; probably as much so as any other man; for says the Savior, he wrote of me. We think that it is not probable that Moses wrote of Christ without understanding what he wrote, neither is it likely that he began to write on a subject which he did not understand most perfectly, particularly when we consider who Moses was, that he had both seen and conversed with God, and received revelations from him, and was in a situation to have both correct and extensive knowledge of all things which he desired to know: it appears also that in consequence of the knowledge which he had of Christ he had to suffer reproach; for he esteemed the reproaches of Christ, greater riches than the treasures of Egypt; but why the reproaches of Christ? Because he had knowledge of him and wrote of him, and for this knowledge, or for writing it, he had to suffer reproach. This is sufficient to shew to any person who is willing to be instructed, that Moses must have understood the nature of Christ's office, as Savior of the world, or why suffer reproach for his sake?—Every man of any understanding must know, that nothing could have caused Moses to have suffered reproach for Christ's sake, unless he had knowledge of him: and all the knowledge that any being can have of Christ, is, as Savior of the world, and if Moses suffered reproach for Christ's sake, he must have done so because he proclaimed him as Savior of the world, & must have known as did Abraham, that it was in Christ that all the families of the earth should be blessed, for if he did not know this, he did not know any thing about him; for it was in consequence of this, that he was known to the world. Had it not been for this the name of Christ would not have been known in the world. And if Moses knew any thing of Christ, he could have known nothing of him but what was known of him as the Savior of the world. So that from all the light we can get on this subject, Moses must have had the same knowledge which Abraham had: indeed there was no other knowledge to be had of Christ, but this; take this away and the knowledge of Christ ceases; and so far as the knowledge of Christ extended, so far did the knowledge of the gospel extend; and so far as the knowledge of the gospel extended, so far did or does the knowledge of Christ extend; for they go together and neither of them is found alone. But what settles this question, in the mind of every candid person forever is, that the fruits which are peculiar to the gospel are found no where but in obedience to it, were found with Moses.—He had the spirit of prophecy and of revelation, he also had visions, and the power of miracles attended him; all these are fruits of the gospel, and found among those who are baptized for the remission of sins, and who receive the gift of the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands. If any should ob-page 133ject and say that the scriptures never mention the baptism of Moses, we reply, neither do they mention his writing of Christ, they only say he did write of him; and we have no doubt if these writings were once obtained, we will in them find the account of his baptism; for every circumstance in relation to him tends to establish this fact on the mind, that he openly acknowledged Christ, and this can only be done by being baptized in his name for the remission of sins, and by receiving the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands in his name; and having thus openly acknowledged him, he had to suffer reproach for his name; for it would be very singular indeed if Moses had to suffer the reproaches of Christ, when he had never acknowledged him; and let me repeat it again, that no person did, or ever will acknowledge Christ only those who do it by being immersed in water for the remission of sins; this is the way and the only way by which any person ever has or ever will acknowledge Christ. They may acknowledge men, or some other beings in doing other things, but they can acknowledge Christ in no other way, and that for the best of all reasons, because there is no other way of acknowledging him; for do all other things that any human creature could do, and leave this undone, and Christ would not be acknowledged. Seeing then, that Moses suffered the reproaches of Christ, it follows of necessity that he must have been baptized for the remission of sins in his name, or he could not have been reproached for his sake.