"[14:02:04] <greyrat> `brew install googler --head` fails because their branch is `main`. What should I do?"

"#machomebrew"

"greyrat"

"14:02:04"

"`brew install googler --head` fails because their branch is `main`. What should I do?"

"[18:07:41] <R2robot> greyrat: one way is to edit the formula"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"18:07:41"

"greyrat: one way is to edit the formula"

"[18:07:45] <R2robot> brew edit googler"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"18:07:45"

"brew edit googler"

"[18:08:29] <R2robot> add , :branch => "main""

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"18:08:29"

"add , :branch => "main""

"[18:08:38] <R2robot> to the line with head"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"18:08:38"

"to the line with head"

"[18:09:05] <R2robot> maybe you can just pass it in though.. "

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"18:09:05"

"maybe you can just pass it in though.. "

"[18:09:07] <R2robot> not sure"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"18:09:07"

"not sure"

"[23:22:54] <jimmyb> If I run `brew install php@7.4` brew won't try to go outside of 7.4 will it? Like it won't try to go to 8.0?"

"#machomebrew"

"jimmyb"

"23:22:54"

"If I run `brew install php@7.4` brew won't try to go outside of 7.4 will it? Like it won't try to go to 8.0?"

"[23:23:43] <jimmyb> I'm trying to figure it out cause I don't have php@7.4 pinned on one of my MacBooks but I did on my new M1. On the one MacBook that wasn't pinned it didn't try going to PHP 8.0 but I want to be sure I understand."

"#machomebrew"

"jimmyb"

"23:23:43"

"I'm trying to figure it out cause I don't have php@7.4 pinned on one of my MacBooks but I did on my new M1. On the one MacBook that wasn't pinned it didn't try going to PHP 8.0 but I want to be sure I understand."

"[23:39:16] <jimmyb> I should clarify my first sentence, what I mean is when I run brew update/upgrade it won't then update me to PHP 8.0."

"#machomebrew"

"jimmyb"

"23:39:16"

"I should clarify my first sentence, what I mean is when I run brew update/upgrade it won't then update me to PHP 8.0."

"[23:40:15] <R2robot> it shouldn't. they're 2 different formula"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"23:40:15"

"it shouldn't. they're 2 different formula"

"[23:41:18] <jimmyb> Ok, that's what I was thinking. This originally came about a while back, but I am thinking it was because I initially did a `brew install php`."

"#machomebrew"

"jimmyb"

"23:41:18"

"Ok, that's what I was thinking. This originally came about a while back, but I am thinking it was because I initially did a `brew install php`."

"[23:41:58] <jimmyb> That explains why my Intel MacBook doesn't have php@7.4 pinned and also didn't update to PHP 8.0"

"#machomebrew"

"jimmyb"

"23:41:58"

"That explains why my Intel MacBook doesn't have php@7.4 pinned and also didn't update to PHP 8.0"

"[23:46:23] <R2robot> yeah, it php was at 7.4 when you first installed it, it would probably continue to upgrade as they update to the latest, but the @formula are versioned and separate"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"23:46:23"

"yeah, it php was at 7.4 when you first installed it, it would probably continue to upgrade as they update to the latest, but the @formula are versioned and separate"

"[23:47:03] <R2robot> sorry, it = if... IF php was at ..."

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"23:47:03"

"sorry, it = if... IF php was at ..."

"[23:47:11] <jimmyb> Cool, thank you for clarifying R2robot 😄"

"#machomebrew"

"jimmyb"

"23:47:11"

"Cool, thank you for clarifying R2robot 😄"

"[23:47:35] <R2robot> np"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"23:47:35"

"np"

"[12:20:17] <GoSox> anyone awake?"

"#machomebrew"

"GoSox"

"12:20:17"

"anyone awake?"

"[12:20:26] <GoSox> i'm trying to get mariadb installed and having very little luck"

"#machomebrew"

"GoSox"

"12:20:26"

"i'm trying to get mariadb installed and having very little luck"

"[00:40:23] <bn_work> is this the new official channel for the brew package manager?"

"#machomebrew"

"bn_work"

"00:40:23"

"is this the new official channel for the brew package manager?"

"[00:42:16] <tdsmith> aiui the project does not have an official irc channel"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"00:42:16"

"aiui the project does not have an official irc channel"

"[00:43:13] <tdsmith> it was removed from the docs a while ago and i don't believe "either" network actually drew any active maintainers, though qyliss and i used to be active and there's a handful of other contributors here"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"00:43:13"

"it was removed from the docs a while ago and i don't believe "either" network actually drew any active maintainers, though qyliss and i used to be active and there's a handful of other contributors here"

"[22:22:22] <sixecho> had this happen a couple times now... i'm running `shasum` which is in /usr/local/bin from the perl keg. fails with `Can't continue after import errors at /usr/local/bin/shasum line 24.` `BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/shasum line 24.` i think reinstalling perl might have fixed it last time - but wanted to ask first before trying... in case someone wants to debug."

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"22:22:22"

"had this happen a couple times now... i'm running `shasum` which is in /usr/local/bin from the perl keg. fails with `Can't continue after import errors at /usr/local/bin/shasum line 24.` `BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/shasum line 24.` i think reinstalling perl might have fixed it last time - but wanted to ask first before trying... in case someone wants to debug."

"[22:25:00] <sixecho> ^ in the meantime changing my scripts to point at /usr/bin/shasum and modding my path. dunno why perl is bringing shasum with it - should probably be excluded from brews"

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"22:25:00"

"^ in the meantime changing my scripts to point at /usr/bin/shasum and modding my path. dunno why perl is bringing shasum with it - should probably be excluded from brews"

"[16:46:15] <gas51627> Hi "

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"16:46:15"

"Hi "

"[16:47:36] <b3z> Hello."

"#machomebrew"

"b3z"

"16:47:36"

"Hello."

"[16:48:33] <gas51627> I have a question. I installed java11 with homebrew. It was installed in the cellar. I linked it to /Libraries. When i ran `man java` it still shows me the man of the old version i have installed previously. I understand that this question is more man-related than brew related, then please let me know where i could ask it"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"16:48:33"

"I have a question. I installed java11 with homebrew. It was installed in the cellar. I linked it to /Libraries. When i ran `man java` it still shows me the man of the old version i have installed previously. I understand that this question is more man-related than brew related, then please let me know where i could ask it"

"[16:49:34] <gas51627> The question is how does man work with multiple versions of library installed and how i can change the default "

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"16:49:34"

"The question is how does man work with multiple versions of library installed and how i can change the default "

"[16:55:48] <b3z> Why is man important? What does java --version return?"

"#machomebrew"

"b3z"

"16:55:48"

"Why is man important? What does java --version return?"

"[17:07:01] <gas51627> Java version returns the correct version"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"17:07:01"

"Java version returns the correct version"

"[17:07:14] <gas51627> Its only man and info that show old pages"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"17:07:14"

"Its only man and info that show old pages"

"[17:07:58] <gas51627> I find it cool to have man from the same version that i use"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"17:07:58"

"I find it cool to have man from the same version that i use"

"[17:12:37] <b3z> the man command only shows pages from a directory (/usr/share/man/). If there is no entry for your java version there also will be no man page. E.g. /usr/share/man/man1/java_home.1"

"#machomebrew"

"b3z"

"17:12:37"

"the man command only shows pages from a directory (/usr/share/man/). If there is no entry for your java version there also will be no man page. E.g. /usr/share/man/man1/java_home.1"

"[17:14:19] <gas51627> Ok, I was looking at man config file, i will check it again. So, i will have to manually link/unlink the man of the new version then. Do you know about info by chance?"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"17:14:19"

"Ok, I was looking at man config file, i will check it again. So, i will have to manually link/unlink the man of the new version then. Do you know about info by chance?"

"[17:15:10] <b3z> Probably, or at least look for the right one maybe you just view the wrong page. "

"#machomebrew"

"b3z"

"17:15:10"

"Probably, or at least look for the right one maybe you just view the wrong page. "

"[17:15:15] <b3z> Sadly I don't use man."

"#machomebrew"

"b3z"

"17:15:15"

"Sadly I don't use man."

"[17:16:10] <b3z> maybe ask in #linux"

"#machomebrew"

"b3z"

"17:16:10"

"maybe ask in #linux"

"[18:29:29] <gas51627> Thanks a lot"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"18:29:29"

"Thanks a lot"

"[19:46:00] <sixecho> gas51627: as they are keg-only - they are also not setup to co-exist with multiple javas... you can directly access that java's man pages with something like `MANPATH=/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk/16.0.1/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home/man man java`"

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"19:46:00"

"gas51627: as they are keg-only - they are also not setup to co-exist with multiple javas... you can directly access that java's man pages with something like `MANPATH=/usr/local/Cellar/openjdk/16.0.1/libexec/openjdk.jdk/Contents/Home/man man java`"

"[19:48:33] <gas51627> Thanks, the solution was to add that new java to the PATH, then man searches directories around it and finds the man page. So it worked right from the beginning but the man file itself is outdated, thats why i thought it's from a different installation"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"19:48:33"

"Thanks, the solution was to add that new java to the PATH, then man searches directories around it and finds the man page. So it worked right from the beginning but the man file itself is outdated, thats why i thought it's from a different installation"

"[19:48:50] <sixecho> gas51627: if you have multiple jdk's installed and need to access the man pages easily/frequently - you can use that or add some shell scripts to set that manpath dynamically; or some env managers might set the manpath when you set your env jdk. several options."

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"19:48:50"

"gas51627: if you have multiple jdk's installed and need to access the man pages easily/frequently - you can use that or add some shell scripts to set that manpath dynamically; or some env managers might set the manpath when you set your env jdk. several options."

"[19:51:42] <gas51627> Yeah, thanks. If only developers updated the man page"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"19:51:42"

"Yeah, thanks. If only developers updated the man page"

"[19:53:14] <gas51627> I mean if they don't update man page then it's all for nothing"

"#machomebrew"

"gas51627"

"19:53:14"

"I mean if they don't update man page then it's all for nothing"

"[19:53:16] <sixecho> gas51627: file a bug i guess since it's openjdk; and/or check if it's even fixed in v16 for comparison"

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"19:53:16"

"gas51627: file a bug i guess since it's openjdk; and/or check if it's even fixed in v16 for comparison"

"[19:16:45] <jbowen> Hello, I'm very new to mac (new job and they issued me one; not new to Unix)"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"19:16:45"

"Hello, I'm very new to mac (new job and they issued me one; not new to Unix)"

"[19:17:15] <jbowen> I've been using Homebrew to install packages and ran into an issue with matterhorn that I haven't encountered before"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"19:17:15"

"I've been using Homebrew to install packages and ran into an issue with matterhorn that I haven't encountered before"

"[19:17:57] <jbowen> Here's the message I receive: “matterhorn” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified."

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"19:17:57"

"Here's the message I receive: “matterhorn” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified."

"[19:18:27] <jbowen> What is the "proper" thing to do, here?"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"19:18:27"

"What is the "proper" thing to do, here?"

"[20:46:25] <R2robot> jbowen: usually you can open the security and privacy tab in the control panel and click the button to allow it to open anyway"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"20:46:25"

"jbowen: usually you can open the security and privacy tab in the control panel and click the button to allow it to open anyway"

"[20:46:57] <R2robot> if it's the most recent thing you tried to launch"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"20:46:57"

"if it's the most recent thing you tried to launch"

"[20:55:45] <jbowen> How are the developers of the other things I've installed verified?"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"20:55:45"

"How are the developers of the other things I've installed verified?"

"[21:23:40] <sixecho> jbowen: some cask devs dont use apple's signature stuff in the slightest -- you can get around that by (uninstalling it first) and then using `brew install --no-quarantine matterhorn`"

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"21:23:40"

"jbowen: some cask devs dont use apple's signature stuff in the slightest -- you can get around that by (uninstalling it first) and then using `brew install --no-quarantine matterhorn`"

"[21:24:58] <sixecho> jbowen: the software is useless otherwise, not sure why brew doesn't require cask devs to at least tag casks about this so it can warn users. but since it's a security/trust thing i can see why brew doesn't want to bypass it for you by default."

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"21:24:58"

"jbowen: the software is useless otherwise, not sure why brew doesn't require cask devs to at least tag casks about this so it can warn users. but since it's a security/trust thing i can see why brew doesn't want to bypass it for you by default."

"[21:26:58] <sixecho> jbowen: if things are already installed and you want to resolve that the low-level way you can do `xattr -d com.apple.quarantine path-to-thing` -- i've only used this on .app's - but as matterhorn installs via a binary - not 100% what it does or where it puts files (to pass to xattr)"

"#machomebrew"

"sixecho"

"21:26:58"

"jbowen: if things are already installed and you want to resolve that the low-level way you can do `xattr -d com.apple.quarantine path-to-thing` -- i've only used this on .app's - but as matterhorn installs via a binary - not 100% what it does or where it puts files (to pass to xattr)"

"[21:36:51] <jbowen> So the proper thing would be for the upstream project to use Apple's code signing"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"21:36:51"

"So the proper thing would be for the upstream project to use Apple's code signing"

"[21:55:13] <R2robot> yeah, but some don't want to pay the 100USD/year for the apple dev license"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"21:55:13"

"yeah, but some don't want to pay the 100USD/year for the apple dev license"

"[22:03:12] <jbowen> Ah, yeah, that sucks"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"22:03:12"

"Ah, yeah, that sucks"

"[22:09:55] <jbowen> In that case, I'm surprised so many others do pay for it"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"22:09:55"

"In that case, I'm surprised so many others do pay for it"

"[22:15:43] <R2robot> well as far as I know, it's only for GUI apps"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"22:15:43"

"well as far as I know, it's only for GUI apps"

"[22:21:43] <jbowen> Matterhorn is a terminal client for Mattermost (written in Haskell)"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"22:21:43"

"Matterhorn is a terminal client for Mattermost (written in Haskell)"

"[22:23:02] <jbowen> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"22:23:02"

"¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

"[22:25:26] <R2robot> but it launches on it's own right?"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"22:25:26"

"but it launches on it's own right?"

"[22:25:36] <R2robot> you're not launching it from Apple Terminal or iTerm2?"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"22:25:36"

"you're not launching it from Apple Terminal or iTerm2?"

"[22:26:16] <R2robot> a bit confused about what it actually is. lol"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"22:26:16"

"a bit confused about what it actually is. lol"

"[22:26:50] <jbowen> no, I'm running it in Terminal"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"22:26:50"

"no, I'm running it in Terminal"

"[22:27:46] <R2robot> hmm"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"22:27:46"

"hmm"

"[22:27:46] <jbowen> https://github.com/matterhorn-chat/matterhorn"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"22:27:46"

"https://github.com/matterhorn-chat/matterhorn"

"[22:27:55] <R2robot> yeah, was just reading through that."

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"22:27:55"

"yeah, was just reading through that."

"[22:28:06] <jbowen> If you'"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"22:28:06"

"If you'"

"[03:40:53] <thalia> hi"

"#machomebrew"

"thalia"

"03:40:53"

"hi"

"[04:48:25] <jbowen> hello"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"04:48:25"

"hello"

"[07:45:54] <ekl> ye"

"#machomebrew"

"ekl"

"07:45:54"

"ye"

"[18:53:54] <ekl> i guess there's no point in staying on both networks anymore"

"#machomebrew"

"ekl"

"18:53:54"

"i guess there's no point in staying on both networks anymore"

"[19:40:29] <R2robot> there never was a point of staying on that other network :P"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"19:40:29"

"there never was a point of staying on that other network :P"

"[20:58:16] <ekl> just waiting to complete the migration"

"#machomebrew"

"ekl"

"20:58:16"

"just waiting to complete the migration"

"[20:58:26] <ekl> i'm at.. 4 chan left now"

"#machomebrew"

"ekl"

"20:58:26"

"i'm at.. 4 chan left now"

"[20:58:35] <ekl> (i know it can be misread but read it the right way lol)"

"#machomebrew"

"ekl"

"20:58:35"

"(i know it can be misread but read it the right way lol)"

"[20:58:40] <ekl> 3 now"

"#machomebrew"

"ekl"

"20:58:40"

"3 now"

"[20:58:59] <R2robot> heh. I dropped my account over there on like day 3 of the drama"

"#machomebrew"

"R2robot"

"20:58:59"

"heh. I dropped my account over there on like day 3 of the drama"

"[18:39:35] <jbowen> I'm quite new to mac/Homebrew, but I want to say that I really appreciate how quickly updates to packages make it into Homebrew's repos"

"#machomebrew"

"jbowen"

"18:39:35"

"I'm quite new to mac/Homebrew, but I want to say that I really appreciate how quickly updates to packages make it into Homebrew's repos"

"[17:21:12] <darkxploit> Hello, Anyone would know why brew style —fix … says installing ‘bundler’ gem and then errored with message "failed to install the 'bundler' gem please. thanks"

"#machomebrew"

"darkxploit"

"17:21:12"

"Hello, Anyone would know why brew style —fix … says installing ‘bundler’ gem and then errored with message "failed to install the 'bundler' gem please. thanks"

"[12:28:12] <hendry> is there a way to make /bin/bash the update homebrew bash? from the brew cli?"

"#machomebrew"

"hendry"

"12:28:12"

"is there a way to make /bin/bash the update homebrew bash? from the brew cli?"

"[19:51:12] <temhawk> hi"

"#machomebrew"

"temhawk"

"19:51:12"

"hi"

"[21:46:22] <temhawk> Have yous seen this? https://saagarjha.com/blog/2019/04/26/thoughts-on-macos-package-managers/ and what do you make of it?"

"#machomebrew"

"temhawk"

"21:46:22"

"Have yous seen this? https://saagarjha.com/blog/2019/04/26/thoughts-on-macos-package-managers/ and what do you make of it?"

"[21:47:30] <temhawk> (specifically about the security holes)"

"#machomebrew"

"temhawk"

"21:47:30"

"(specifically about the security holes)"

"[22:08:07] <quesker> just installed irssi on a new machine and alt-X where X is 1 2 3 etc is putting symbols instead of switching to that window. also readline stuff doesn't seem to work ctl-A ctl-E "

"#machomebrew"

"quesker"

"22:08:07"

"just installed irssi on a new machine and alt-X where X is 1 2 3 etc is putting symbols instead of switching to that window. also readline stuff doesn't seem to work ctl-A ctl-E "

"[22:40:49] <quesker> bash is messed up too. is machomebrew dead now? why are packages getting screwed up?"

"#machomebrew"

"quesker"

"22:40:49"

"bash is messed up too. is machomebrew dead now? why are packages getting screwed up?"

"[22:51:02] <tdsmith> temhawk: unless you have multiple, mutually-untrusting users using your mac, the security hole is purely theoretical"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"22:51:02"

"temhawk: unless you have multiple, mutually-untrusting users using your mac, the security hole is purely theoretical"

"[22:55:29] <quesker> ok the bash one was some dumb thing they changed in bash itself recently oops"

"#machomebrew"

"quesker"

"22:55:29"

"ok the bash one was some dumb thing they changed in bash itself recently oops"

"[23:00:51] <quesker> well. this is fun. another bash issue -bash: type: compopt: not found"

"#machomebrew"

"quesker"

"23:00:51"

"well. this is fun. another bash issue -bash: type: compopt: not found"

"[23:03:47] <tdsmith> quesker: i think compopt is a newer-bash thing so it sounds like maybe that's being emitted by system bash"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"23:03:47"

"quesker: i think compopt is a newer-bash thing so it sounds like maybe that's being emitted by system bash"

"[23:10:18] <quesker> oh wow. I wonder how I ended up in system bash oops. thanks"

"#machomebrew"

"quesker"

"23:10:18"

"oh wow. I wonder how I ended up in system bash oops. thanks"

"[23:11:22] <quesker> oh I didn't actually chsh to the brew one yet duh"

"#machomebrew"

"quesker"

"23:11:22"

"oh I didn't actually chsh to the brew one yet duh"

"[00:32:41] <temhawk> tdsmith yeah well I don't necessarily trust myself. that's kinda the whole reason for user accounts even on single-user systems, else why not just be root all the time?"

"#machomebrew"

"temhawk"

"00:32:41"

"tdsmith yeah well I don't necessarily trust myself. that's kinda the whole reason for user accounts even on single-user systems, else why not just be root all the time?"

"[00:33:08] <temhawk> I still find the example of the booby-trapped `ls` compelling."

"#machomebrew"

"temhawk"

"00:33:08"

"I still find the example of the booby-trapped `ls` compelling."

"[00:34:20] <tdsmith> that amounts to never having a PATH entry that your user account can write to"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"00:34:20"

"that amounts to never having a PATH entry that your user account can write to"

"[00:34:31] <tdsmith> which is a thing you can do i guess"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"00:34:31"

"which is a thing you can do i guess"

"[00:36:02] <tdsmith> although by that point you've already run arbitrary code with full access to your data, so what's the point"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"00:36:02"

"although by that point you've already run arbitrary code with full access to your data, so what's the point"

"[00:36:24] <temhawk> yeah, I typically don't need to overwrite my apps I think? so I thought why not create a dummy user for homebrew so that I can run the tools but can't write to the tools"

"#machomebrew"

"temhawk"

"00:36:24"

"yeah, I typically don't need to overwrite my apps I think? so I thought why not create a dummy user for homebrew so that I can run the tools but can't write to the tools"

"[00:37:08] <tdsmith> that was the brewdo model, which was a good idea https://github.com/brewdo/brewdo"

"#machomebrew"

"tdsmith"

"00:37:08"

"that was the brewdo model, which was a good idea https://github.com/brewdo/brewdo"