 microsoft has announced that they plan to remove java from windows they took it out of xp already and it has to be installed with a service pack somehow i can t imagine them removing the ability to run c programs they removed their java vm they didn t remove the ability to run java programs anybody is free to develop their own java vm and make it kick ass as someone said earlier in the thread nobody is capable or willing to do that i ve done a bunch of java and haven t run into huge problems running the same bytecode across solaris or winNUMBERk what actual problems have people actually run into actually 