on mon oct NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERam NUMBER ciaran johnston wrote also there s some stuff about french consumer law forbidding sale without guarantee of anything so software delivered as is breaches consumer law in france but i didn t really follow that my french is a bit iffy these days but if this is true does it not also nullify microsoft adobe and winzip licences amongst most others these all claim no liability no guarantees m say delivered with all faults so at least they are honest apparently the angle on this i e selling without guarantee is that software is not a product which is sold but a service which is licensed at least that s what i remember reading about how m gets away with providing no guarantee in the u s if you re feeling rather deep pocketed you could always try suing m to get a court s view on the matter niall irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL 