 original message from gary lawrence murphy garym canada com w wpin lslifriend writes w those who want to leave for the netherlands to carry on any w kind of education including for phd must be careful w especially the university of groningen rug should be w avoided this university was once a good one but now it has w lost its reputation studying is a good investment in time w and money so invest in the right place and time you are w warned dear gawd lost its reputation how horrible for those northern europeans what could possibly be worse than that 