on wed NUMBER sep NUMBER tom wrote the others are on mailing list only status for now a few of the groups i was in that are run by others are harder to deal with since many folks just dont want to have to deal with the inconvienence of a understanding i ve terminated a number of my own mailing lists at yahoogroups many months ago because of similiar sentiments i ve tried lobbying other people to move but with about zero success i ve got currently only one own mailing list there which i m going to move as soon as it is technically possible which is my isp s problem basically after that i intend to kick yahoogroups for good 