url URL date not supplied a lot of people seem to be missing the point of phoenix as evidenced by the responses on mozilla news NUMBER and mozillazine NUMBER let me emphasize something here if you think mozilla s current ui is acceptable then you are clearly not the target audience for phoenix here is a quiz to test whether or not phoenix is the right browser for you the link toolbar is critical to my day to day use vital when using bugzilla doesn t everybody use bugzilla link what the sidebar is indispensable since i run at NUMBERxNUMBER resolution not cool enough since i can t float and dock all my panels and have splitters between all panels and see web page progress for individual html panels and check my email entirely from within sidebar and a waste of real estate form auto fill is not useful for me unless i can fill out NUMBER pages of personal information first should just happen automatically downloads should take place in a tree view with progress meters in the columns should be clearly visible and understandable toolbars should be dockable to all four corners of the screen be able to float outside the window be fully customizable such that i can make my own custom commands be able to edit existing buttons commands be able to create my own toolbars be able to put toolbars on the same line and be able to edit the submenus and context menus of items including the items on the menu bar and browse my file system and cook me dinner and wash my car and walk my dog and do my taxes and mow my lawn and be customizable within reason composer should always come with my browser i want composer options all over my ui everywhere not be part of a web browser mail should be part of my browser program aren t they the same app there is a difference be a separate application now to those people who want the full blown functionality of the mozilla trunk you can still get that with phoenix the idea is to relegate more features to the optional add on category if you want the link toolbar or the sidebar or mouse gestures or any other features you can download and install them yourself i expect phoenix will have a little add in manager that will facilitate this process there is currently an expectation on the part of an alarming number of people that every feature implemented by anyone should automatically be part of the default mozilla install download why a layered approach scales better you can then have a browser that can become as complex as you want to make it but the choice is left in your hands the geek features aren t inflicted on you by default finally remember that phoenix s ui is not controlled by netscape this is an opportunity for some of the core mozilla navigator developers to build the browser that they have always wanted to build without having to compromise the user interface to satisfy the various conflicting pressures exerted by factions within netscape NUMBER URL NUMBER URL 