on mon NUMBER sep NUMBER reza b far ebuilt wrote with the increasing prevalence of web services not that they are always a good thing i doubt that parsing xml will be something that will remain at the java application layer for long recent threads here on fork indicating the move towards hardware parsing or this code even become part of the native implementation of java on various platforms ok so you get the xml toss it through hardware and turn it back into a struct object whatever you call your binary data i agree this is the way things will go as xml parsing has just too much overhead to survive in the application layer so why turn it into xml in the first place becasue it gives geeks something to do and sells xml hardware accelerators and way more cpus is there anyone out there actually doing anything new that actually improves things anymore or are they all too scared of the fact that improvements put people out of work and cut NUMBER is the creators adam l duncan beberg URL beberg URL 