 i think i ve worked on sa enough to understand that i can localize a score i m just not comfortable with using spamassassin as a vehicle for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base this is exactly what i think spamassassin has always been conservative about adding unproven rbls and such and this should be the same i think it would make more sense to start habeas with a less aggressive score one which will not give spammers a quick path into everyone s inbox and after we ve seen evidence that the system works then we can increase the magnitude of the score i say start it with a zero score and put it in NUMBER_cvs_rules_under_test like any other unproven rule then score it based on actual results not promises my corpus does not yet contain a single non spam or spam message with a habeas mark based on that it doesn t impress me and it wouldn t impress the ga either rules with exactly the same statistics are being dropped from sa right now and i don t see why this should be any different michael moncur mgm at URL URL furious activity is no substitute for understanding h h williams this URL email is sponsored by thinkgeek welcome to geek heaven URL _______________________________________________ spamassassin talk mailing list spamassassin talk URL URL 