 paul moore but let s walk before we run after all we may end up all using zodb in any case i d like this despite the additional installation burden we can ship binaries for windows and mac and not only for technical reasons as i understand it post NUMBER NUMBERx versions of the core bsddb code ship under the sleepycat license which demands that projects using it must be published source this is a problem if we want spambayes to be fully psf licensed if someone wants to take the spambayes source and fund their addictions by creating a commercial closed source spam filter product the psf license allows that but not if the code relies on bsddb not that i m in favour of people making money from spambayes unless it s me NUMBER but the psf license does allow for it it should be all or nothing or do i have this all wrong slightly ot this has concerned me since plabs announced that they were integrating bsddb into python NUMBER NUMBER it s going to make it very easy especially on windows for someone to write code that uses anydbm wrap it up with pyNUMBERexe and ship it under a commercial license not knowing that they re breaking the sleepycat license they ve never heard of sleepycat software or even bsddb as far as they re concerned this bsddb pyd file that pyNUMBERexe tells them they need to ship is just another part of python like _socket pyd or select pyd richie hindle richie URL _______________________________________________ spambayes mailing list spambayes URL URL 