on wed NUMBER sep NUMBER r a hettinga wrote i know it s not the popular choice for a lot of people but i d suggest um church like woody allen said NUMBER of life is showing up right i think another venue for finding people is the workplace as a contractor i have had the opertunity to meet lots of eligables over the course of my wandering workhistory my wife was my task order manager years ago thats how we met her joke is that she is still my task order manager but now i dont get paid by starting up your own companies or working in sterile thinklabs you are cutting yourself off from one heck of a fertile ground for linkages the common office i like the shurch idea as well other ideas book circles geocaching groups heck rhorho your still young enough to hit the campus mixers and i mean the social stuff not the techtech events above all ask yourself whats important to you life you either life it or you waste it tom 