 i ll have to try it with another window manager and see if i can get exmh to put it back inside of sane boundaries i don t have this problem with any other windows though just the exmhunseen window how about enabling the show unseen message count in folder cache option it displays the number of unseen messages next to each folder name if greater than NUMBER so you don t really need the unseen window unless you re using more sequences than just unseen paul _______________________________________________ exmh users mailing list exmh users URL URL 