eugen leitl clearly our non silly non antiquated ideas about relationships have resulted in mostly short duration relationships and single parented dysfunctional kids don t swallow too quickly what you have read about more traditional cultures today or in the past do we have any statistics on the poor man s divorce from centuries past are you so sure that the kids in NUMBERth century england were any more functional than those today what about NUMBERth century saudi arabia at least from the viewpoint of demographics sustainability and counterpressure to gerontocracy and resulting innovatiophobia we re doing something wrong granting your first two points i m skeptical about the last do you see any signs that america specifically or the west generally are suffering from lack of innovation vis a vis youth nations such as iran the last i read the third generation of the revolution all a want to move to america and b failing that are importing everything they can american _________________________________________________________________ join the world s largest e mail service with msn hotmail URL 