reminds me of cheney during the vp debates when he declared his wealth was not the product of government favors URL m NUMBER good time to refresh our memories re iraq starting a debate on govt contracts gg original message from fork admin URL mailto fork admin URL on behalf of owen byrne sent sunday september NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER am to owen byrne cc gary lawrence murphy mr fork fork spamassassin taint org digital bearer settlement list subject re sed s united states roman empire g owen byrne wrote r a hettinga wrote begin pgp signed message hash shaNUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER am NUMBER on NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER gary lawrence murphy wrote cool i wasn t aware that the us had lifted it s population out of poverty when did this happen i wonder where the media gets the idea that the wealth gap is widening and deepening all the world loves a smartass seriously look at he life expectancy and human carrying capacity of this continent before the europeans got here look at it now even for descendants of the original inhabitants even for the descendents of slaves who were brought here by force more stuff cheaper that s progress poverty of course is not relative it s absolute disparity in wealth has nothing to do with it it s like saying that groups have rights when in truth only individuals do like group rights disparity in wealth is statistical sophistry besides even if you can t help the distribution industrial wealth is almost always transitory and so is relative poverty even when there are no confiscatory death taxes the NUMBERth anniversary forbes NUMBER just came out and only a few tens of people are still there since NUMBER a time which had significantly higher marginal taxes on wealth income and inheritance than we do now more to the point they re nowhere near the top lovely quote from the forbes NUMBER list and not a single astor vanderbilt or morgan rates a mention on the current forbes four hundred but you have to studiously ignore the NUMBER rockefellers NUMBER gettys NUMBER hearsts fords kelloggs wrigleys and so on there are more self made people on the list than i previously alluded to i made a mistake most of them seem to have ivy league educations or are ivy league dropouts suggesting to me that they weren t exactly poor to start with some of them have lovely self made stories like NUMBER johnston summerfield k jr track this persontrack this person URL acker NUMBERfprotected NUMBERfrich_tracker jhtml errorurl NUMBERfpeopletracker NUMBERferror jht ml personid NUMBER see all bacon makers URL isttype person resultsstart NUMBER resultshowmany NUMBER resultssortproperties NUMBERbnum berfieldNUMBER NUMBERc NUMBERbstringfieldNUMBER resultssortcategoryname rank searchparameterNUMBER NUMBER str NUMBERc NUMBERcpatcs NUMBERc NUMBERcbacon makers categoryNUMBER magazine section categoryNUMBER catego ry searchparameterNUMBER unset NUMBER self made source food URL isttype person resultsstart NUMBER resultshowmany NUMBER resultssortproperties NUMBERbnum berfieldNUMBER NUMBERc NUMBERbstringfieldNUMBER resultssortcategoryname rank searchparameterNUMBER NUMBERs tr NUMBERc NUMBERcpatcs NUMBERc NUMBERcfood categoryNUMBER industry coca cola quote URL tkr cce executives URL ce news URL net worth NUMBER mil returnee hometown chattanooga tn marital status married NUMBER children grandfather james and partner landed first coca cola bottling franchise in NUMBER company passed down NUMBER generations to summerfield NUMBERs became largest independent coke bottler merged with coca cola enterprises NUMBER javascript openmap pol javascript openmap dist by a compensation committee owen 