justin mason wrote phil r lawrence said something to watch out for is to use nomime NUMBER in the mail audit ctor the m a folks changed the api there what has mime to do with it i read in perldoc m a that your suggestion is less expensive but how does that help s a m a for some reason changes its base class depending on whether the incoming message is mime or not therefore the mail internet methods suddenly become unavailable for mime messages you do not want to know what i thought of that when i found it as a new user of sa i guess i m having trouble connecting the dots if i understand you if i don t use the nomime NUMBER option and i recieve mime mail the mail internet modules become unavailable unavailable for which ma sa what do these methods do does this mean my incoming mime mail won t be checked by sa unless i specify nomime NUMBER thanks phil 