 read the article i m afraid i don t understand how the transmission prices could have hit NUMBER tcf but i m also really leery of telling a pipeline company they have to run a pipeline at a higher pressure and that they should forego maintenance we had a big pipeline explosion up here awhile ago so maybe the judge has a point we ll see as the appeals work its way out original message from geege schuman mailto geege barrera org sent tuesday september NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER am to johnhall URL subject re liberal defnitions from slate s today s papers the new york times and los angeles times both lead with word that a federal judge ruled yesterday that the nation s largest national gas pipeline company el paso illegally withheld gas from the market during california s energy squeeze in NUMBER NUMBER the judge concluded that el paso left NUMBER percent of its capacity in the state off line thus driving up the price of gas and helping to induce rolling blackouts and this is the product of overregulation original message from fork admin URL mailto fork admin URL on behalf of john hall sent monday september NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER pm to fork subject liberal defnitions depends on how much over spending vs how much and what type over regulation the biggest problem with over regulation is the costs can be invisible it also has the ability to single out particular people while over spending spreads the damage more evenly rent control would be an example of a regulation solution that is in general worse than spending tons of money on public housing as for the definition of a liberal being someone who seeks to impose both i find no fault in that definition whatsoever the opinion that either we are spending too much or we have too much regulation is pretty much anathema to liberal politics finally those who argue that there are private replacements for much government regulation are not saying that a state of nature no private replacements no government regulation is better than government regulation itself and in my experience people who label themselves green which does not include everyone who loves trees and thinks smokestacks are ugly is a watermelon original message from fork admin URL mailto fork admin URL on behalf of geege schuman funny i read it as green red as in accounting as in fiscally irresponsible which do you think is the worse indictment overregulation or overspending there are many dickheads who buy into the neo conservative media s fox s definiton of liberal as one who seeks to impose both 