because of this URL there are several of us who are in the bdsm lifestyle who are trying to encourage our local groups to find alternatives to yahoo groups as a way of communicating with each other i ve set up a place to have maillists on my server for any group who wants to use it but i was wondering if anyone knows of an alternative that allows all the bells and whistles that yahoo has such as reminders file storage calendars etc anyone tia cindy i don t take no stocks in mathematics anyway huckleberry finn 