justin mason jm jmason org NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER well my point is more that we should aim our rescoring algorithm so that a spam hits NUMBER NUMBER any higher does us no good as it means an fp is a lot harder to recover from using compensation rules agreed but i have always thought that the value NUMBER was not the best value it should have been NUMBER i understand that initially only spammy scores were included but i believe the algorithm should be purely symmetrical and non spammy negative values should also have been balancing out the spammy positive values like they do in sa today then anything that was positive would be spam and anything negative would be non spam and i guess exactly zero is grey today s choice of NUMBER just adds an offset which i think cause people to assume things work differently than they do bob 