UESPWiki:Community Portal/Archive 22

New Voting System for Featured Articles

I propose the following:

Possible votes are:

Support = 2

Slight Support = 1

Slight Oppose = -1

Oppose = -2

In order to qualify for featured, an article must have at least 5 votes and 5 score.

Who agrees? --Rigas Papadopoulos  06:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

: This isn't a very good idea. Krusty has already explained why voting anything other than Support or Oppose is pointless, but the idea of counting a vote as a half if you use a particular adjective is, frankly, silly. Is it really likely that people will be heard chanting "Please give my vote half the value of other people's"? Anybody can edit any article likely to be nominated as a Featured Article, and so can fix any minor problems that get in the way of a "support" vote. If they don't have time to edit, a "Comment" or even an "Oppose" with a description of the problem is the right way to go. I know I've voted "Conditional" or similar in the past, but Krusty is right - it doesn't change the result and makes life more difficult for whoever is counting the results. rpeh  10:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

:: While I understand the intent of the proposal, it really would over-complicate the voting. If a Featured Article is iffy enough that there isn't a clear consensus through simple "Support" or "Oppose" votes, then it probably shouldn't be a featured article.  &ndash; Robin Hood    15:12, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

::: Do you think this is better? --Rigas Papadopoulos  15:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

:::: The scores required aren't really the issue, it's the idea of assigning numerical values to the votes.  &ndash; Robin Hood    15:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

:::::Honestly, this is quite pointless. I understand what you're aiming at, but as RH has already pointed out if an FA nominee lacks clear consensus, it simply shouldn't be one. Creating this myriad of different styles of voting is hardly helpful. --SerCenKing   17:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

:::::: True. It seems like it's not going anywhere, so I'm calling it off. --Rigas Papadopoulos  17:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Morrowind Map

Please could anybody interested in the Morrowind Map pop over here and read all about the latest fun and games. Thanks. rpeh  19:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Random Page is not Random

When I click on it, it sends me to Plan for the Big Heist, then to The Rear Guard, then nothing. Could someone explain this? Well now it's back to normal... 99.237.87.79 11:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

: Sometimes you'll get a cached page. Just keep trying - it'll work eventually. rpeh  11:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Before I created an account and was not logged in, the Random function did not work. I hit "Random" 30 times in a row, each time arriving at the Cluttermonkey page. I refreshed my browser's cache and was able to get to a different page upon hitting "Random", but again, every time I hit "Random" it took me to the same page.

:: Once I created an account and logged in, however, the Random function worked as intended. I do not know why this would be so, but thought I would add my observations. Telinome 01:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I found a map marker not on UESP

It's called "Secret Tomb" and it is LITERALLY on the top-right corner. You might need tmm to find it, cuz thats what i did. When someone gets the chance, can they start it up? Oblivion Lover 17:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

: Nope. It's from a mod - certainly it isn't in the standard game. rpeh  18:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Diff Function

Is it just me, or has the wiki diff function been broken these last couple of days? I haven't noticed this problem prior to then, but when I bring up diffs via Recent Changes, no differences are actually displayed - I see the page as it was after the edit, I see the times/dates of when the checked/previous edits were made, but not the diff text showing what was done. Reloading the pages over and over will eventually get them to display correctly, and it seems to apply to any edit.

Here are some specific edits with which I've had this behaviour:


-   00:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

:I've noticed this too. Not with those links per se, but every now and then the differences on the edit won't show. -- DKong27    00:24, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

::I had been meaning to post something here about this problem but I hoped it would clear up before I had to. I already brought the problem to Daveh's attention, so hopefully it will be sorted out soon. It seems to be a problem with the site's caching - the changes are all being recorded correctly, but the content1 server is sometimes not reporting a diff correctly.
:: For example, compare these two versions of your first diff: Content1 and Content2. The content1 diff shows no change, but the content2 diff shows the change that was made.
:: As a workaround, when viewing a diff that appears to be blank, change the "www" in your URL to "content2" and you'll see what was changed. This is obviously not a solution, but it serves as a temporary fix for people who need to see diffs. rpeh  00:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

:::Righto, thanks for the info. :) -   01:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Morrowind Help

Hey I have just made a new facebook group called morrowind help> 

This is to help people that want help with morrowind. This is not to replace going to this website becasue this website has alot more information then I will ever have. I will try to give you cool places on the map, cool cheats, and cool hints, and other miscellaneous cool stuff. Again this is not to replace this website just for cool stuff and other help. I will try to make a website soon and a youtube channel so please join and tell other people about it.

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UESP in other languages

Hi, I use the UESP very often, when I'm playing Elders Scroll and I start thinking about one thing - multilanguage UESP. Did somebody thing of it too? It is technically possible? It is feasible at all? What do you thing? --213.155.255.148 12:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

: This is something that gets asked from time to time. Realistically, it's not going to happen. There simply isn't the resource available to translate everything into other languages - we don't even have enough to finish the English articles! There's a very good German site here and lists of others here. rpeh  13:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

New Project

Just to let everyone who doesn't watch Recent Changes know, I've started a new project called the Morrowind Quest Results Project. Anyone playing Morrowind should feel free to join. rpeh  18:57, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Math error on the main page
Unless I'm missing something, it's going to take 12 months, not 11 months.

11 months is December next year. 12/11/11.

12 months is November next year. 11/11/11. 96.48.8.129 06:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
:You're missing something. :P -- ''   '' 

The number 11

As everyone on this wiki surely knows, TES V was recently announced. I'm surprised, however, that no one on this wiki (or even its sources) mentioned the arc number-eleven.

It was announced on 12/11/10, elven months before its release of 11/11/11. SOMETHING is going on here; this number would not appear so frequently and lack importance.

I encourage everyone to do any research they can on the lore for reasons why the number eleven is significant.

As I am new here, I cannot post on the discussion section of the main page; I implore someone to repost this so that the word spread. In case you're curious, this post is the sole reason I created an account, and I plan to continue being a part of this great community.  

: Since there's absolutely no connection between TES dates and real world dates, you don't think it's more likely that they just spotted the triple 11 and chose it before anyone else got there? Please stop seeing things where nothing exists. rpeh  23:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Not to butt heads with Rpeh, but I think ResidentPianist might have a point. Many developers like to link their release dates or the timing of other significant real-world events with significant in-game numbers, like Bungie often does with the number 7. I think we should at least consider it before dismissing it,, and have a look through the lore (specifically concerning dragons) for significant occurrences of the number 11. Sorry if I'm stepping out of line here, I'm just intrigued as well. Jpot 04:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:::11/11 is Armistice Day (commemorated at 11:00). I, too, thought that 11 might at least be a motif, but I am wondering Bethesda really just wanted a bunch of ones (based off the "There's one they fear" line.) Anyway, the wiki is really not suited to discuss things like this. Topics like this are better posted on the forum. -- ''   ''  05:34, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:::: Okay, to be fair there is of course The Lost Prophecy, which contains the phrase "From seventh sign of eleventh generation". This refers to the Nerevarine, last heard of heading over to Akavir, which would fit with the Dragon theme, but would be difficult to reconcile with the game being set in Skyrim. rpeh  06:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:::::Patterns are easy to find when it concerns just a few numbers. I'd say this case is nothing more special than a release date that was chosen with a little sense of good marketing. --Timenn-  14:37, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Project Rewards

I've just created a new template:  . This is something that's been banging around at the back of my head for a while and I decided to go for it because I wanted a break from patrolling and quest-checking. The idea is that people who have taken part in a project should be able to wear a badge to say they did so. While I could have created a set of standard, boring userboxes, I thought something a little flashier was in order, hence the new template.

Henceforth, each project will get a ribbon in the style of the ones given to the military for participation in campaigns, acts of heroism or completion of certain tasks. I'm not trying to compare UESP to a military campaign or the actions of our editors to the actions of the military, but until now there has been no way of recording your involvement in a project except on the project page. Now, you can wear your project ribbon with pride.

For instructions on using the template, please see  . Note that if anybody includes a ribbon for which they aren't authorised, it can be removed at any time - just as names can be removed from project pages at the moment.

I hope people like it! rpeh  23:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC) 

:They're interesting, yes. The problem is the Ribbon template and the text that shows up contradict each other. The page says that it's simply a way to record progress. The mouseover text say "This user performed with distinction in [Project name]". So basically, do you have to perform with distinction to put one on your page, or not?--  Ghurhak gro-Demril        23:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:: Taking part is all that's required. The "performed with distinction" bit is to keep in character. rpeh  23:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

::: Great idea and implementation.  &ndash; Robin Hood    00:25, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Last Chance

This is your last chance to save anything from the original roleplaying pages, as we are moving entirely to a userspace system.--  Ghurhak gro-Demril        22:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:And it's done.  All of the old roleplaying pages have now been redirected to the appropriate user ideas categories (which seemed to me like a better idea than just deleting them all since there's so many links still to 'em).  Let me know if I screwed anything up! ;)  --GK  19:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

:: It created 93 double redirects, but I got RoBoT to take care of 'em. I think everything's sorted now. rpeh  11:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

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