UESPWiki:Archive/CP Archiving-Subpaging 2

Archiving/Subpaging
Use this topic for notes and discussion regarding archiving and subpaging. For previous discussion, see: Subpaging and Archiving/Subpaging.

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Moved from former Archiving Subpages'' topic. --Wrye 02:02, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

There are a couple subpages I'd like to suggest archiving.  The main priorities here are a few pages that are resolved and/or mostly resolved, and that contain some of the recent drama that most of us agree we would like to put behind us so we can move on.  In particular:



I'm proposing to create a page    where all of the community portal subpages can be listed; a link to that page would be added to the tables in the contents section.  Those subpages that are archived would no longer be listed directly on the Community Portal page, but would still be accessible through the Community_Portal/Subpages page.

A couple of other candidates that could also be considered for archiving (just to reduce the size of the long
tables at the top of the page) are:





If at some point in the future there is an interest in resuming one of these discussions, it could easily be moved back to the community portal listing.  But in the meantime, having a shorter, more manageable list on this page seems like it would best overall.

Are there any objections to this idea, or to any of the individual selections?  Or if enough people state that they're OK with it, then I could go ahead and do it.  --Nephele 15:24, 27 February 2007 (EST)

:Sounds good to me Jadrax 15:27, 27 February 2007 (EST)

:Rather than start yet another subpage, I've moved the subpage links to the top of the most recent archive subpage. (We should probably start adding to existing archive pages when practical, rather than start new archive subpages, else the length of the archive subpages list itself will become an annoyance.) 

:As for the other subpages, I think that it is still too soon. I understand the desire to move on, but I think that it's important in terms of transparency for people who are non-admins for issues to not just suddenly disappear and be swept under the table. But balancing that against the desire for peace, I would suggest waiting a week and then moving Principles and De-Adminship to the archive page in the same way. 

:As for the WikiScrolls link, I would prefer that it be left in in place (but add links to the related discussions to the subpage.) Again, the goal is transparency. Users should be able to find out easily about Wikiscrolls and the history behind its formation. The truth is that arguments happen, people get divorced, groups split. The reaons for why that happened should be left available so that new users can easily understand the reasons and make their own decicsions on what it all means. 

:PS: We probably need a "This page has been archived" tempate. Maybe like so: Wikipedia Archive Template --Wrye 19:50, 27 February 2007 (EST)

Since time has passed and there's been no objection to my suggestion above, I've aggregated the dispute pages. Again, in the interest of transparency, I think that it's important that users be able to see that there was a dispute, and be able to easily find the discussions if they're interested. However, I understand the desire to put a painful episode behind us. So as compromise, I've moved the links to individual dispute pages to a single subpage, and linked to that page. Also, in the interest of transparency, I've retained the link to Wikiscrolls.

Also, I'm moved the discussion re archiving here since it's a "meta" discussion about what goes on the page. However, I don't have an objection to this chunk being archived to Archive 6 immediately, since this is just the final archiving note, and again archiving might help us put the dispute behind us. --Wrye 02:02, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I've also added    to the top of all archives and archived subpages. Not real pretty (an icon like this would be nice) and text could be better , but it's better than nothing. And templates are easy to edit... --Wrye 02:37, 16 March 2007 (EDT)