Re: bitcoin-dev Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15

Re: bitcoin-dev Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15


  2023-11-07 21:56   ` James Blacklock
  
From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton @ 2023-11-07 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-dev

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On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <bitcoin-dev-request@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
wrote:

> Rooms can be E2E encrypted.

please, NO.

there are people who have such valuable skills that their
lives are put in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations.

additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN.

mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator.

l.


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2023-11-07 20:20 ` [bitcoin-dev] bitcoin-dev Digest, Vol 102, Issue 15 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton

  2023-11-08  2:00     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
  
From: James Blacklock @ 2023-11-07 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton;  bitcoin-dev

Agreed, email lists are the way. Personally I love reading the email list; it is a great resource to know what kinds of technical discussions are going on in the community. I certainly hope we can just migrate to a different email list.


On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:


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> 
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <bitcoin-dev-request@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> > Rooms can be E2E encrypted.
> 
> please, NO.
> 
> there are people who have such valuable skills that their
> lives are put in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations.
> 
> additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN.
> 
> mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator.
> 
> l.
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> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68


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2023-11-07 21:56   ` James Blacklock

  
From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton @ 2023-11-08  2:00 UTC ( / )
  To: James Blacklock;  bitcoin-dev, Alain Williams



On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, James Blacklock <jamesblacklock@protonmail•com>
wrote:

> Agreed, email lists are the way. Personally I love reading the email
list; it is a great resource to know what kinds of technical discussions
are going on in the community. I certainly hope we can just migrate to a
different email list.

i have a friend alain williams who runs lists.phcomp.co.uk
and is competent at it. was the UKUUG Chair err 25 years ago?
cc'd.

the other lowest-common-denominator method is of course nntp
newsgroups (eternal-september.org run an excellent spam-free
one) and i do not mean "newsgroups via groups.google.com",
i mean *actual* nntp newsgroups, you know, the ones that have
been running for 40 years and everyone has forgotten even
exist? :)

they were and always have been distributed and distributable
(and spam-free *if* run properly) and i am sure the owner of
eternal-september would be happy to host/distribute bitcoin-dev.

another idea is public-inbox which actually stores
an entire mail archive *in a git repository*
https://github.com/nojb/public-inbox

  public-inbox implements the sharing of an email inbox
  via git to complement or replace traditional mailing lists.
  Readers may read via NNTP, IMAP, Atom feeds or HTML archives.

public-inbox can be "initialised" from a mailman archive
so you can have the entire past history of messages in
the git repo as well.  it's really quite sophisticated.

if anyone doesn't like "email bcuz old", or wants to remain
anonymous, they can always get a protonmail account, use
mail-forwarders, and TOR. and if they are happy to use nntp they can
register
on eternal-september.org, which then allows them to send and
receive... and then use TOR-proxy.

all doable *without* having to install something that will
consume alarmingly high resources and cost a fortune in hosting
every month.

l.

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> On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <
bitcoin-dev-request@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Rooms can be E2E encrypted.
>>
>> please, NO.
>>
>> there are people who have such valuable skills that their
>> lives are put in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations.
>>
>> additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN.
>>
>> mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator.
>>
>> l.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>

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