Re: Where do I start?

Re: Where do I start?


  2015-04-16 12:33   ` Mike Hearn
  
From: gabe appleton @ 2015-04-16  2:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

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Background: I'm a CS student quickly approaching his research project, and
I'd like to do something meaningful with it.

Essentially, I'd like to know what issues someone up for their bachelor's
degree might actually be able to help on, and where I can start. Obviously
I'm not going to be able to just dive into a 6-year-running project without
some prior research, so I'm looking for a start.

What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
better off making something else for the ecosystem?

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From: Thy Shizzle @ 2015-04-16  3:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gabe appleton, bitcoin-development


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Zero conf :D
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Subject: [Bitcoin-development] Where do I start?

Background: I'm a CS student quickly approaching his research project, and
I'd like to do something meaningful with it.

Essentially, I'd like to know what issues someone up for their bachelor's
degree might actually be able to help on, and where I can start. Obviously
I'm not going to be able to just dive into a 6-year-running project without
some prior research, so I'm looking for a start.

What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
better off making something else for the ecosystem?

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2015-04-16  2:14 ` gabe appleton

  2015-04-30  8:08     ` Jorge Timón
  
From: Mike Hearn @ 2015-04-16 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gabe appleton;  Bitcoin Dev

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Hey Gabe,

That's diving into the deep end for sure! :)

> What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
> better off making something else for the ecosystem?
>
That depends on your interests.

Many of the highest priority tasks in Bitcoin Core are rather complicated,
unfortunately, even for people with experience. You can consult the issue
tracker to get a feel for it.

Alternatively, there are lots of wallet apps out there and plenty of more
straightforward projects on them. However they may have less of a research
flavour.

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2015-04-16 12:33   ` Mike Hearn

  2015-04-30  9:35       ` Telephone Lemien
  
From: Jorge Timón @ 2015-04-30  8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Hearn;  Bitcoin Dev

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As Mike says it depends on your interests. But one thing that is almost
always welcomed is improving the tests, and it is unlikely that it
conflicts with other people's PRs (unless they're changing that part of the
code and need to update those tests. Improving documentation is also good
and you can do that while reading the code. Usually I just start cloning,
compiling and changing things as I read, "if I understand this correctly,
this change should not break the tests, if I understand this, this other
change should break the build", etc.
But again, is up to you.
On Apr 16, 2015 2:34 PM, "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99•net> wrote:

> Hey Gabe,
>
> That's diving into the deep end for sure! :)
>
>> What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
>> better off making something else for the ecosystem?
>>
> That depends on your interests.
>
> Many of the highest priority tasks in Bitcoin Core are rather complicated,
> unfortunately, even for people with experience. You can consult the issue
> tracker to get a feel for it.
>
> Alternatively, there are lots of wallet apps out there and plenty of more
> straightforward projects on them. However they may have less of a research
> flavour.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT
> Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard
> Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live
> exercises
> http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual-
> event?utm_
> source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>
>

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2015-04-30  8:08     ` Jorge Timón

  2015-04-30 10:28         ` Jorge Timón
  
From: Telephone Lemien @ 2015-04-30  9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jorge Timón;  Bitcoin Dev

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Hello,
I'm a beginner in Bitcoin and I want to know, what are things those allo me
to understand Bitcoin protocol and make progress in java to become a good
developper.
Please tell me how I can begin.
Best regards

2015-04-30 10:08 GMT+02:00 Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon•cc>:

> As Mike says it depends on your interests. But one thing that is almost
> always welcomed is improving the tests, and it is unlikely that it
> conflicts with other people's PRs (unless they're changing that part of the
> code and need to update those tests. Improving documentation is also good
> and you can do that while reading the code. Usually I just start cloning,
> compiling and changing things as I read, "if I understand this correctly,
> this change should not break the tests, if I understand this, this other
> change should break the build", etc.
> But again, is up to you.
> On Apr 16, 2015 2:34 PM, "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99•net> wrote:
>
>> Hey Gabe,
>>
>> That's diving into the deep end for sure! :)
>>
>>> What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
>>> better off making something else for the ecosystem?
>>>
>> That depends on your interests.
>>
>> Many of the highest priority tasks in Bitcoin Core are rather
>> complicated, unfortunately, even for people with experience. You can
>> consult the issue tracker to get a feel for it.
>>
>> Alternatively, there are lots of wallet apps out there and plenty of more
>> straightforward projects on them. However they may have less of a research
>> flavour.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT
>> Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard
>> Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live
>> exercises
>> http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual-
>> event?utm_
>> source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>>
>
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2015-04-30  9:35       ` Telephone Lemien

  2015-04-30 15:50           ` Thomas Kerin
  
From: Jorge Timón @ 2015-04-30 10:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Telephone Lemien;  Bitcoin Dev

Well, if you're interested in learning java while learning bitcoin,
probably you should be looking at https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj
or one of its related project (like the android bitcoin wallet based
on it).
There's a getting sterted page: https://bitcoinj.github.io/#getting-started

These links my be useful too:

https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-for-developers
https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-documentation


On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Telephone Lemien
<lemientelephone@gmail•com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm a beginner in Bitcoin and I want to know, what are things those allo me
> to understand Bitcoin protocol and make progress in java to become a good
> developper.
> Please tell me how I can begin.
> Best regards
>
> 2015-04-30 10:08 GMT+02:00 Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon•cc>:
>>
>> As Mike says it depends on your interests. But one thing that is almost
>> always welcomed is improving the tests, and it is unlikely that it conflicts
>> with other people's PRs (unless they're changing that part of the code and
>> need to update those tests. Improving documentation is also good and you can
>> do that while reading the code. Usually I just start cloning, compiling and
>> changing things as I read, "if I understand this correctly, this change
>> should not break the tests, if I understand this, this other change should
>> break the build", etc.
>> But again, is up to you.
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2015 2:34 PM, "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99•net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Gabe,
>>>
>>> That's diving into the deep end for sure! :)
>>>>
>>>> What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
>>>> better off making something else for the ecosystem?
>>>
>>> That depends on your interests.
>>>
>>> Many of the highest priority tasks in Bitcoin Core are rather
>>> complicated, unfortunately, even for people with experience. You can consult
>>> the issue tracker to get a feel for it.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, there are lots of wallet apps out there and plenty of more
>>> straightforward projects on them. However they may have less of a research
>>> flavour.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT
>>> Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard
>>> Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live
>>> exercises
>>> http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual-
>>> event?utm_
>>> source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>>> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>



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2015-04-30 10:28         ` Jorge Timón

  
From: Thomas Kerin @ 2015-04-30 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

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When dealing with any of the libraries or API's it's helps to know
what's going on under the hood. I find these pages to be invaluable.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_specification
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script

On 30/04/15 11:28, Jorge Timón wrote:
> Well, if you're interested in learning java while learning bitcoin,
> probably you should be looking at https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj
> or one of its related project (like the android bitcoin wallet based
> on it).
> There's a getting sterted page: https://bitcoinj.github.io/#getting-started
>
> These links my be useful too:
>
> https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-for-developers
> https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-documentation
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Telephone Lemien
> <lemientelephone@gmail•com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm a beginner in Bitcoin and I want to know, what are things those allo me
>> to understand Bitcoin protocol and make progress in java to become a good
>> developper.
>> Please tell me how I can begin.
>> Best regards
>>
>> 2015-04-30 10:08 GMT+02:00 Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon•cc>:
>>> As Mike says it depends on your interests. But one thing that is almost
>>> always welcomed is improving the tests, and it is unlikely that it conflicts
>>> with other people's PRs (unless they're changing that part of the code and
>>> need to update those tests. Improving documentation is also good and you can
>>> do that while reading the code. Usually I just start cloning, compiling and
>>> changing things as I read, "if I understand this correctly, this change
>>> should not break the tests, if I understand this, this other change should
>>> break the build", etc.
>>> But again, is up to you.
>>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2015 2:34 PM, "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99•net> wrote:
>>>> Hey Gabe,
>>>>
>>>> That's diving into the deep end for sure! :)
>>>>> What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
>>>>> better off making something else for the ecosystem?
>>>> That depends on your interests.
>>>>
>>>> Many of the highest priority tasks in Bitcoin Core are rather
>>>> complicated, unfortunately, even for people with experience. You can consult
>>>> the issue tracker to get a feel for it.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, there are lots of wallet apps out there and plenty of more
>>>> straightforward projects on them. However they may have less of a research
>>>> flavour.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT
>>>> Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard
>>>> Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live
>>>> exercises
>>>> http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual-
>>>> event?utm_
>>>> source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>>>> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud
>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>>> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud 
> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development

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