by keepamovin | 2026-02-10 05:43:48+00:00
Vagueness, misunderstanding. Like so many of the choral voices then and now. Sad. Have some truth, sister:

The legco of HK was unchanged until after the protests when they then extented national law into the SAR. Contrary to the Western media propaganda around the protests there was no violation of the "treaty" (joint dec, and basic law) which gave China broad powers to do what it saw fit in terms of national security (read Article 18, everything China did was already permitted by the BL that Britain signed off on.) https://www.basiclaw.gov.hk/filemanager/content/en/files/bas...

Western media could have made other criticisms of China wrt HK, but it chose these dumb lies instead. A whole lot of dumb lies went into whipping up the protesters, who then committed crimes and went to jail. As if the entire purpose was to remove from society a lively rebellious element, and misdirect the vital creative energy of a generation to an end that would contribute to their own destruction. Yet those Westerners claiming they "support" this stupidity bc of "freedom and democracy" are just more pawns in that overall game, that they didn't think enough about before joining in. So must bear the responsibility of their stupidity, now. And, hopefully, silence themselves in shame and reflection before adding more stupidity, into the chorus.

You could say the people of HK and the people of the West were both made useful idiots by a joint Chinese-Western psyop to fold HK fully into the Chinese model. The Westerners provided the agitators and agitprop, and the Chinese duly responded with legislation. West really helped China advance its interests in HK. Must have been a coincidence, or cooperation, couldn't have just been lies and stupidity. So dumb.

Next time something big happens in the world. Stop, observe and think about it. BTW I was there at the significant lead ups to the unrest, both times. I know the place really well, and I loved what it used to be. I don't know what it is now, but I doubt it's same as it was. Different probably.

The real issue causes were a weak mentality of younger generations, who grew up after the golden times of 80s/90s when HK was way ahead of most other places in East Asia, and then became too conservative in their ambitions and tactics to get rich and happy. Laziness, arrogance and ignorance, basically - all of which you can see clearly expressed in their 'protest' actions. As well as economic capture by a small wealthy elite that didn't advance great economic policies for the younger generations, while keeping real estate ownership centralized. In other words, the "Freedom and democracy" of HK, didn't handle itself so well, way before China started messing with it. The immaturity is HK wanted to blame outsiders (mainlanders, colonists) for good/bad outcomes, rather than really owning their future. Sad when previous generations of HKers really created stuff with gusto.

> As for violence, clearly, there is no comparison between the violence of the protesters and the violence of the Chinese government. The CCP is literally responsible for tens of millions of deaths. How can people focus on entrepreneurship when they’re facing the loss of basic freedoms and the threat of mass detention and death?

That's the stupidest reasoning I've ever heard. The people in mainland China managed to do it ("focus on entrepreneurship") pretty well, despite the spectre of the past they themselves created. So did the Japanese, etc. The HK protesters were violent, and why expect them to be different? They're part of the same bloodlines that created and participated in the violence on the mainland. I guess it's just a violent culture. That's been human history. The issue was the HKers didn't properly sublimate their violence into some kind of aggressive creativity and better life seeking, and instead let themselves be misdirected to a useless and self-destructive outlet. That's the bitter pill, that once they swallow and own responsibiltiy for, maybe they can move on.

Or you can just keep resisting that idea, and getting mad when you see it reflected - and stay stuck forever. Your choice.