by rramadass | 2026-02-21 07:21:55+00:00
You seem to be a "Islamic Apologist" inventing your own version of History for your agenda-driven talking points and/or trolling.

First, In a thread to do with French fascination of Mongols you are unnecessarily bringing in totally irrelevant topics of Mughals in India, Palestinian/Gaza issues and right-wing/left-wing politics.

Second, There is not a single reference to any scholarly source in your wall-of-text and hence nothing in it can be considered factual and debated about i.e. they are your "take" (malicious or otherwise) on your version of History.

My comments above have actual references to wikipedia (a curated resource) from where one can start their studies.

To address your points above;

> Let me begin with a disclaimer - ... through the coloured lens of religion.

This is all nonsense with a specific agenda to steer the conversation into negative politics.

> Briefly, on the Mughal Empire:... In popular history, Akbar, Babur's favourite grandson, is however known as the most "secular" of the Mughal emperors. ... he too lost his kingdom.

This is complete bullshit. Did you use AI to generate this nonsense? Babur died in 1530 while Akbar was born in 1542; There is no way he knew his "favourite grandson"! Your entire comment is suspect hereon.

> On the Buddhist Empire: ... that Ashoka, the Buddhist emperor waged wars over wars to create his empire in India - the title of "monk-king", which he presumably became after being "moved" by the slaughter in the Kalinga war, is likely just a reformist propaganda, ...

This is again ignorant bullshit. You have actual archeological evidence in the form of surviving rock edicts and not "reformist propaganda" that Ashoka converted to Buddhism and oriented his rest-of-life in the furtherance of its ideals. Educate yourself starting here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka and then follow with Ashoka : Portrait of a Philosopher King by Patrick Olivelle.

> Buddhism, as a practising religion, ... This too contributed to the decline of Buddhism.

Don't make up your own versions of history. Start with wikipedia links and educate yourself. It is well recorded how Hindu Temples/Buddhist Universities etc. were destroyed by Islamic invaders (even before the Mughals) and the masses forced to convert by the sword. The conflicts between Hinduism and Buddhism were nowhere as destructive since the latter is a derivative of the former. Detailed accounts can be found in the works of historians like K.L.Hazra which i don't think you are capable of understanding.

Decline of Buddhism in the Indian subcontinent - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Buddhism_in_the_Ind...

Persecution of Hindus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus

Persecution of Buddhists - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhists

> History isn't Black and White. Yes, there were Muslim rulers in India who were either apathetic, or weak or despots. And there have been great Hindu or Muslim or Buddhist kings in India too. Their religious identity however had nothing to with their flaws or their greatness - while a religious fundamentalist may wear their religious identity on his sleeves, remember that he is not a representative of his religion (in fact, he is someone who actually eschews his own religion, conflating it with politics rather than spirituality).

This here shows your very ignorance on this subject. Islam is different from other religions because it is a Religious+Political+Economic+Social system rolled into one with sanctioned violence in the furtherance of its goals. This is why it is incompatible with and a threat to the modern world.

See this previous comment of mine https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45624724 for more edification.