by wakawaka28 | 2026-01-12 10:08:12+00:00
>As you acknowledge without even realizing it, free speech cannot be absolute, it's just nonsensical and your sentence above proves it.

You are technically correct. We don't have absolute free speech in practice, but we know what it is. Free speech is nearly a Platonic ideal. Just as there are no true circles or squares in the universe, there is no perfect free speech. But we have a pretty good model for free speech based on what is enforceable and popular enough to be accepted as policy.

>That's a very poor whatabotism.

No it's not. Biden censored the hell out of people and oversaw prosecution of his opposition. He then issued a blanket pardon of his own son after lying about his son taking bribes for years. This is on top of his unpopular policies and other failings. I don't think his senility is enough to excuse all of that, and indeed I don't think he was even making many of his own decisions during his term. I got a good chuckle when he wore that Trump hat though after dropping out of the race.

>How many representative and senators where prosecuted for their speech under the Biden admin?

Joe Biden and his pals effectively censored reports that Hunter Biden was taking bribes along with a lot of discussion of it online. They then proceeded to prosecute Trump and everyone associated with him over J6 and every other thing they could imagine such as repayment of a loan in which the lender was fully satisfied with the deal. They even went to work disbarring and prosecuting lawyers trying to defend him in court. They went after Trump's pool boy. Don't forget that there was another witch hunt in his first term too. The whole Mueller investigation was started by a report that Hillary Clinton funded to smear Trump around 2015. Despite all the shit he had to put up with, including having his campaign wiretapped in his first run, he did not prosecute Hillary. Apparently that was a mistake.

Censorship of so-called private platforms for many political reasons was coordinated by the government through backdoor web portals to major social media companies throughout the Biden term. They harassed Elon Musk and started smearing him once he pushed back even 10% on the Democrat program, and really went wild when he announced he would buy Twitter to remove the censorship. This is practically unforgivable. Democrats have not acknowledged this or apologized. If you can find one to admit that it was done, they usually double down and say "F your free speech!"

>How many US citizens where arrested in the middle of a TV interview for criticizing the government?

I've never seen this even once. If you're talking about some protestor giving a statement while committing a crime (which can include, refusing to move when asked), then I don't care about that. You people are lucky that Trump isn't the fascist you imagine he is.

>That every government will at some point abuse their power, and it's regrettable, must never be an excuse for the egregious behavior from the current administration. It really is unprecedented in the last decades. It's not even close.

The only unprecedented thing here is the level of actually violent rhetoric and revulsion against Trump. The only lull in the rhetoric was when Trump was tied up in court and not engaging with the public.

>He never was, he's just posturing.

He's done more for free speech than any liberal I've seen in my lifetime by destroying the censorship apparatus that the government and Democrat-adjacent activists had installed in Twitter.

>He is a man child who cannot stand criticism and has been retaliating against critical speech as soon as he gained some power. First it was about canceling Tesla orders, then deleting Twitter accounts (of activists, journalists and even video game streamers when they called his BS on its alleged PoE world first, you can't make that up).

Yes, that is against free speech, I agree. But you people didn't do shit to protect the rights of others YOU disagree with to have free speech and in fact celebrated it. You said "It's a private platform". OK, then the man will not tolerate smearing of himself or his companies on his private platform. That's a small price to pay for otherwise free speech. Deal with it.

>No, criticism of Trump himself or his admin get people people see their tourism trip to the US canceled after social media profile scanning.

I'm not exactly happy about this social media scanning, especially if people are denied for simply having mediocre opinions about the president. But if you're a foreigner then I suppose it is not wrong for the government to do a bit of research to know whether they are letting in some kind of extremist element or crazy person. If you are VERY unhappy with our politicians or anything else about the country, perhaps you should not come here. When US citizens go to other countries, they can get in trouble easily for saying the wrong things. They are also not allowed to deny searches and interrogations, because other countries generally have no exact equivalent of the Bill of Rights.