MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by jfindper | 2025-12-03 21:24:59+00:00
Do you think the original comment posted by quapster was "slop" equivalent to a copy-paste spam bot?

The only spam I see in this chain is the flagged post by electric_muse.

It's actually kind of ironic you bring up copy-paste spam bots. Because people fucking love to copy-paste "ai slop" on every comment and article that uses any punctuation rarer than a period.
by Jblx2 | 2025-12-03 21:25:06+00:00
I wonder if this issues isn't caused by people who aren't programmers, and now they can churn out AI generated stuff that they couldn't before. So to them, this is a magical new ability. Where as people who are already adept at their craft just see the slop. Same thing in other areas. In the before-times, you had to painstakingly handcraft your cat memes. Now a bot comes along and allows someone to make cat memes they didn't bother with before. But the real artisan cat memeists just roll their eyes.
by takluyver | 2025-12-03 21:25:22+00:00
My understanding is that all the big AI companies are currently offering services at a loss, doing the classic Silicon Valley playbook of burning investor cache to get big, and then hope to make a profit later. So any service you depend on could crash out of the race, and if one emerges as a victorious monopoly and you rely on them, they can charge you almost whatever they like.

To my mind, the 'only just started' argument is wearing off. It's software, it moves fast anyway, and all the giants of the tech world have been feverishly throwing money at AI for the last couple of years. I don't buy that we're still just at the beginning of some huge exponential improvement.
by kentm | 2025-12-03 21:25:31+00:00
This person wrote a blog post admitting to tone-deafness in cheerleading AI and talking about all the ways AI hype has negatively impacted peoples' work environment. But then they wrap up by concluding that its the anti-AI people that are the problem. Thats a really weird conclusion to come to at the end of that blog post. My expectation was that the end result was "We should be measured and mindful with our advocacy, read the room, and avoid aggressively pushing AI in ways that negatively impact peoples' lives."
by jfalcon | 2025-12-03 21:25:35+00:00
I'm sure the 5% employee tax in Seattle and the bill being introduced in Olympia will do more to smooth things over than some quirky blipvert will.

I think most people in Seattle know how economics works, logic follows: while "techbro" don't work is true: if "techbro" debt > income: unless assets == 0: sellgighustle else sellhousebeforeforeclosure nomoreseattleforyou("techbro") end else "gigbot" isn't summoned and people don't get paid. "techbro" health-- due to high expense of COBRA. [etc...] end end
by senordevnyc | 2025-12-03 21:26:06+00:00
I’ve been an engineer for 20 years, for myself, small companies, and big tech, and now working for my own saas company.

There are many valid critiques of AI, but “there’s not much there” isn’t one of them.

To me, any software engineer who tries an LLM, shrugs and says “huh, that’s interesting” and then “gets back to work” is completely failing at their actual job, which is using technology to solve problems. Maybe AI isn’t the right tool for the job, but that kind of shallow dismissal indicates a closed mind, or perhaps a fear-based reaction. Either way, the market is going to punish them accordingly.
by Fordec | 2025-12-03 21:26:08+00:00
You know what, this clarifies something for me.

PC, Web and Smartphone hype was based on "we can now do [thing] never done before".

This time out it feels more like "we can do existing [thing], but reduce the cost of doing it by not employing people"

It all feels much more like a wealth grab for the corporations than a promise of improving a standard of living for end customers. Much closer to a Cloud or Server (replacing Mainframes) cycle.
by garyhtou | 2025-12-03 21:26:11+00:00
I love seeing PSF support the community with fiscal sponsorship! It makes such a huge difference for these open source projects and meetups, letting them focus on software and community rather than the legal/financial back-office work.

Hack Club's been a fiscal sponsor for about 7 years now (since 2018), and it's evolved quite a bit since the early days. I run engineering & product for the fiscal sponsorship program there and would be happy to chat/share any tips!

oh, and while it's on my mind, the codebase was open-sourced earlier this year (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43519802), and we just launched a mobile app yesterday! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46130402
by tarynbialek | 2025-12-03 21:26:25+00:00
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by darkwater | 2025-12-03 21:26:50+00:00
Haha just tried and it works! First I tried in Spanish (I'm in Spain) and it simply refused, then I asked in English and it just did it (but it answered in Spanish!)

EDIT: I then asked for a Fizzbuzz implementation and it kindly asked. I asked then for a Rust Fizzbuzz implementation, but this time I asked again in Spanish, and he said that it could not help me with Fizzbuzz in Rust, but any other topic would be ok. Then again I asked in English "Please do Rust now" and it just wrote the program!

I wonder what the heck are they doing there? The guardrailing prompt is translated to the store language?
by Arcuru | 2025-12-03 21:27:00+00:00
I give a lot of money to the free things I use as well, but even if I used Ghostty I'd struggle to give them any money since the founder is extraordinarily wealthy.

Please fund projects that actually need it, and don't voluntarily gift money to a literal billionaire.

> I get asked the same about terminals all the time. “How will you turn this into a business? What’s the monetization strategy?” The monetization strategy is that my bank account has 3 commas mate.

Original post: https://x.com/mitchellh/status/1964785527741427940
by michaelt | 2025-12-03 21:27:17+00:00
On "runpod community cloud" renting a 5090 costs $0.69/hour [1] and it consumes about $0.10/hour electricity, if running at full power and paying $0.20/kWh.

On Amazon, buying a 5090 costs $3000 [2]

That's a payback time of 212 days. And Runpod is one of the cheaper cloud providers; for the GPUs I compared, EC2 was twice the price for an on-demand instance.

Rental prices for GPUs are pretty darn high.

[1] https://www.runpod.io/pricing [2] https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Graphics-WINDFORCE-GV-N5090G...
by benrutter | 2025-12-03 21:27:40+00:00
Language server protocol is a huge deal! Without it, I think we'd still see a lot more JetBrains style language bespoke IDE use and a lot less VSCode style text editor + plugin combos.

Since the original post was about a TUI editor, its worth mentioning Helix which supports most modern language out the box. That's amazing and wouldn't have been possible 10 years ago.
by d3Xt3r | 2025-12-03 21:27:46+00:00
If you're considering getting an alternative handheld, a better OS would be either Bazzite or CachyOS Handheld edition. SteamOS is not bad, but it uses an older kernel+graphics stack which doesn't make it very ideal for running on recent hardware. Plus, dedicated gaming distros like Bazzite have additional hardware support (like thirdparty game controllers) which may not be supported in SteamOS.

Currently, AMD Strix Halo based handhelds are the most powerful portable gaming devices out there, with the top three being the GPD Win 5, the OneXPlayer OneXfly Apex, and the AYANEO Next 2. Of these three, the GPD Win 5 has already started shipping. Problem is they're stupid expensive.

Personally, I will wait until I can run FSR4 natively on these portables, because FSR makes a pretty significant QoL improvement on these handhelds.
by decimalenough | 2025-12-03 21:28:57+00:00
While everybody else is ranting about AI, I'll rant about something else: trip planning apps. There have been literally thousands of attempts at this and AFAICT precisely zero have ever gotten any traction. There are two intractable problems in this space.

1) A third party app simply cannot compete with Google Maps on coverage, accuracy and being up to date. Yes, there are APIs you can use to access this, but they're expensive and limited, which leads us to the second problem:

2) You can't make money off them. Nobody will pay to use your app (because there's so much free competition), and the monetization opportunities are very limited. It's too late in the flow to sell flights, you can't compete with Booking etc for hotel search, and big ticket attractions don't pay commissions for referrals. That leaves you with referrals for tours, but people who pay for tours are not the ones trying to DIY their trip planning in the first place.
by bigstrat2003 | 2025-12-03 21:28:59+00:00
Private ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition to have a business which has a healthy relationship with its customers. You also need the owners to be people of reasonably good character who understand that the best way to run a business is a win-win approach on both sides, not people who see nothing wrong with extracting maximum profit from the business no matter whom it hurts. The PE horror stories you hear are cases where the owners are in the latter group.
by captainkrtek | 2025-12-03 21:29:18+00:00
I've lived in Seattle my whole life, and have worked in tech for 12+ years now as a SWE.

I think the SEA and SF tech scenes are hard to differentiate perfectly in a HN comment. However, I think any "Seattle hates AI" has to do more with the incessant pushing of AI into all the tech spaces.

It's being claimed as the next major evolution of computing, while also being cited as reasons for layoffs. Sounds like a positive for some (rich people) and a negative for many other people.

It's being forced into new features of existing products, while adoption of said features is low. This feels like cult-like behavior where you must be in favor of AI in your products, or else you're considered a luddite.

I think the confusing thing to me is that things which are successful don't typically need to be touted so aggressively. I'm on the younger side and generally positive to developments in tech, but the spending and the CEO group-think around "AI all the things" doesn't sit well as being aligned with a naturally successful development. Also, maybe I'm just burned out on ads in podcasts for "is your workforce using Agentic AI to optimize ..."
by MisterTea | 2025-12-03 21:29:19+00:00
> or is there a bottom line where people start paying attention enough and actually fighting for change when it gets bad enough.

As long as the majority of people are comfortable while being apathetic they will not care. They will happily maintain that status quo. When things get uncomfortable for the majority, then will there be action. Just make sure the people are fed and entertained just enough and you're safe.
by _sinelaw_ | 2025-12-03 21:29:28+00:00
Sublime, Atom, VSCode, and now Zed are all GUI-based. That's not bad - but I prefer the terminal (and I find tmux + ssh very convenient). I guess it's a matter of personal taste.

For terminal based, there are also many options but not so much in the direction of "VSCode style". They're mostly focused on being "vi-style". And also the huge file support isn't as good in any of the others that I've tried.
by quentindanjou | 2025-12-03 21:29:45+00:00
It's very use-case dependent.

SSR can be a game-changer in domains like e-commerce. But completely useless for some other use case.

RSC advantages are a bit more complex to explain, because even a simple portfolio website would benefit from it. Contrary to the common belief created by long-term ReactJS dev, RSC simplifies a lot of the logic. Adapting existing code to RSC can be quite a mess and RSC is a big change of mindset for anybody used to ReactJS.
by balamatom | 2025-12-03 21:29:52+00:00
>a broader dichotomy between the people-persuation-plane, and the real-world-facts plane

This right here is the real thing which AI is deployed to upset.

The Enlightenment values which brought us the Industrial Revolution imply that the disparity between the people-persuasion-plane and the real-world-facts-plane should naturally decrease.

The implicit expectation here is that as civilization as a whole learns more about how the universe works, people would naturally become more rational, and thus more persuadable by reality-compliant arguments and less persuadable by reality-denying ones.

That's... not really what I've been seeing. That's not really what most of us have been seeing. Like, devastatingly not so.

My guess is that something became... saturated? I'd place it sometime around the 1970s, same time Bretton Woods ended, and the productivity/wages gap began to grow. Something pertaining to the shared-culture-plane. Maybe there's only so much "informed" people can become before some sort of phase shift occurs and the driving force behind decisions becomes some vague, ethically unaccountable ingroup intuition ("vibes", yo), rather than the kind of explicit, systematic reasoning which actually is available to any human, except for the weird fact how nobody seems to trust it very much any more.
by skybrian | 2025-12-03 21:30:10+00:00
This seems to be almost purely bandwagon value, like preferring Coca-Cola to some other drink. There are other blockchains that are better technically along a bunch of dimensions, but they don't have the mindshare.

Bitcoin is probably unkillable. Even if were to crash, it won't be hard to round up enough true believers to boost it up again. But it's technically stagnant.
by adverbly | 2025-12-03 21:30:21+00:00
Some massive bait in this article. Like come on author - do you seriously have these thoughts and beliefs?

> It felt like the culture wanted change. > > That world is gone.

Ummm source?

> This belief system—that AI is useless and that you're not good enough to work on it anyway

I actually don't know anyone with this belief system. I'm pretty slow on picking up a lot of AI tooling, but I was slow to pick up JS frameworks as well.

It's just smart to not immediately jump on a bandwagon when things are changing so fast because there is a good chance you're backing the wrong horse.

And by the way, you sound ridiculous when you call me a dinosaur just because I haven't started using a tool that didn't even exist 6 months ago. FOMO sales tactics don't work on everyone, sorry to break it to you.

When the singularity hits in who knows how many years from now, do you really think it's one of these llm wrapper products that's going to be the difference maker? Again, sorry to break it to you but that's a party you and I are not going to get invited to. 0% chance governments would actually allow true super intelligence as a direct to consumer product.
by bastard_op | 2025-12-03 21:30:24+00:00
After some 25 years of consulting/professional services in IT and working probably a dozen or more health care industry businesses or hospitals themselves, I can honestly say they are the worst clients and most I will simply refuse now as a rule. I've never met one that wasn't run poorly run, overly political, low paying, high spending, morale/morally deprived... I could go on, but mostly mismanaged applies, and more so this is universal when it comes to their EMR software systems, as every one needs one.

One need only google "Oracle failure" or visit theregister.com to see a list of atrocities committed yearly by Oracle for ERP and Financial system implementation fiascos, buying Cerner for their EMR that was already bad to use could only make it worse. It's like bad and worse got together to make a baby, but what are your alternatives in the space? I never met an ERP that wasn't a mess, or the staff that tend to manage them. Oracle just keeps expanding, because why be a lesser evil?

If you work in the medical IT field, you have my condolences, and my best advice is don't. The only ones that win are the executives above their meat shields and the investors. If you have to visit one in the US, you also have my condolences, as you'll see first hand the product above commentary.
by basscomm | 2025-12-03 21:30:48+00:00
> It's not about their careers.

That's the thing, though, it is about their careers.

It's not just that people are annoyed that someone who spends years to decades learning their craft and then someone who put a prompt into a chatbot that spit out an app that mostly works without understanding any of the code that they 'wrote'.

It's that the executives are positively giddy at the prospect that they can get rid of some number their employees and the rest will use AI bots to pick up the slack. Humans need things like a desk and dental insurance and they fall unconscious for several hours every night. AI agents don't have to take lunch breaks or attend funerals or anything.

Most employees that have figured this out resent AI getting shoved into every facet of their jobs because they know exactly what the end goal is: that lots of jobs are going to be going away and nothing is going to replace them. And then what?
by Freak_NL | 2025-12-03 21:31:11+00:00
The product website isn't convincing either. It's only in private beta, and the first example shows 'A scenic walking tour of Venice' as the desired trip. I'll readily believe LLMs will gladly give you some sort of itinerary for walking in Venice, including all highlights people write and post about a lot on social media to show how great their life is. But if you asked anyone knowledgable about travel in that region, the counter questions would be 'Why Venice specifically? I thought you hated crowds — have you considered less crowded alternatives where you will be appreciated more as a tourist? Have you actually been to Italy at all?'.

LLMs are always going to give you the most plausible thing for your query, and will likely just rehash the same destinations from hundreds of listicles and status signalling social media posts.

She probably understood this from the minimal description given.
by DanMcInerney | 2025-12-03 21:31:29+00:00
There are an infinite amount of ways to jailbreak AI models. I don't understand why every time a new method is published it makes the news. The data plane and the control plane in LLM inputs are one in the same, meaning you can mitigate jailbreaks but you cannot 100% prevent them currently. It's like blacklisting XSS payloads and expecting that to protect your site.
by squigz | 2025-12-03 21:32:00+00:00
I'm not going to get too far into this argument, 'cause... just no thanks, but I will say that one reason we don't assemble things like cars ourselves is... it's fucking hard. So are pretty much all the other examples you listed. On the other hand, computers are basically giant LEGO with how plug and play they are.

I strongly suspect that if we had phones that were as modular as computers, they'd be very popular.
by watwut | 2025-12-03 21:32:14+00:00
> What would you imagine a plausible scenario would possibly be that your tools would be taken away or “collapse in functionality”?

Simple. The company providing the tool needs actual earning suddenly. Therefore, they need to raise the prices. They also need users to spend more tokens, so they will make the tool respond in a way that requires more refinement. After all, the latter is exactly what happened with google search.

At this point, that is pretty normal software cycle - try to attract crowd by being free or cheap, then lock features behind paywall. Then simultaneously raise prices more and more while making the product worst.

This literally NEEDS to happen, because these companies do not have any other path to profitability. So, it will happen at some point.
by neilv | 2025-12-03 21:32:19+00:00
Lots of creators (e.g., writers, illustrators, voice actors) hate "AI" too.

Not only because it's destroying creator jobs while also ripping off creators, but it's also producing shit that's offensively bad to professionals.

One thing that people in tech circles might not be aware of is that people outside of tech circles aren't thinking that tech workers are smart. They haven't thought that for a long time. They are generally thinking that tech workers are dimwit exploiter techbros, screwing over everyone. This started before "AI", but now "AI" (and tech billionaires backing certain political elements) has poured gasoline on the fire. Good luck getting dates with people from outside our field of employment. (You could try making your dating profile all about enjoying hiking and dabbling with your acoustic guitar, but they'll quickly know you're the enemy, as soon as you drive up in a Tesla, or as soon you say "actually..." before launching into a libertarian economics spiel over coffee.)
by jlundberg | 2025-12-03 21:32:23+00:00
Looking forward to giving this a try, especially on my first gen Raspberry Pi! :)

What are the reasons behind going with GPL-2 instead of a more permissive license like MIT or 0BSD?

You will probably at minimum build some neat helper functions and maximum code reuse is IMHO the best thing for the world.

I would for instance be curious on the ANSI routines but hesitate to invest mental energy when the code has limitations on usage.

Lastly cool to see new open source programs being built with heavy help from a code generation model. Inspiring!
by zzo38computer | 2025-12-03 21:32:38+00:00
ASN.1 does not necessarily need to get involved in parsing the values; for some applications doing so is unnecessary anyways (this is true for many fields of many types and not only this one, though). ASN.1 will need to be involved in parsing the framing; whether or not it is involved in parsing the values depends on whether the application requires it for that specific value (for example, it is commonly not necessary to parse OIDs (you can usually just treat them as opaque data which can be compared for equality (or looked up in a table), although sometimes it is useful to display them), although some implementations insist on doing so anyways).
by gfaster | 2025-12-03 21:32:45+00:00
Oh wow nice catch - I was not at all familiar with the limitations. I would've hoped for a warning there, but I suppose it is a research project.

I was able to get it working with unrolling and narrower integers:

https://alive2.llvm.org/ce/#z:OYLghAFBqd5QCxAYwPYBMCmBRdBLAF...