MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by lesuorac | 2025-10-06 19:42:03+00:00
His 56 billion pay package [1]. In order for him to receive it the stock would need to increase 13x [2] (the AMD stock increase from 150 to 600 is only 4x). Despite succeeding at doing that, he and Tesla were sued over the pay package.

If OpenAI fails then its going to have to liquidate the company. Selling 160M shares of AMD is going to tank it's price.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Tes...

[2]: https://ir.tesla.com/press-release/tesla-announces-new-long-...
by lumost | 2025-10-06 19:42:48+00:00
This depends significantly on the real cost of the gpu. The cost of enterprise ai GPUs is likely 2 orders of magnitude lower than the current list price. These deals avoid the need to markdown the price of the hardware to gain volume.

If I understand the math correctly. Amd could offer the GPUs at around a 20x discount to OpenAI on a deal worth 10-20 billion and be profitable on both amortized R&D and Cost of Goods sold.
by jpadkins | 2025-10-06 19:42:54+00:00
The real, sustained value creation for AMD is if their GPUs can be competitive with Nvidia for inference or training. The market is currently betting that AMD will get that "spillover" effect from working with OpenAI to get their chips + software in a state that openAI can use at scale.

So day 1 valuation is mostly hype, but that hype may translate into real value later.
by _DeadFred_ | 2025-10-06 19:42:55+00:00
What's the mood in the bay area? If this is 17 times the size I can't imaging how much optimism/fun you all are having.

I was there for the first dot com boom. So much optimism. It seemed every party someone announced they were pregnant we were all so optimism for the future and comfortable, ready to start families. The restaurants were all full with new spots popping up all the time. It was a really fun time to be there. I know there are some layoffs but at 17x even with some layoffs I can't imagine 17x more energy/money then back in the first dot com.
by someodd | 2025-10-06 19:42:57+00:00
I've been homelabbing my own XMPP setup for a while. I went with Prosody and I enjoy its Lua flexibility and clean config model.

For anyone curious, I documented the full process (including IRC bridge + more!) here:

https://someodd.zip/phlog-mirror/xmpp-server.gopher

I also covered audio/video calls using a companion STUN/TURN server:

https://someodd.zip/phlog-mirror/xmpp-server-video-audio-cal...

Curious how others here are handling federation and mobile clients these days. I use Conversations (F-Droid) and Gajim.
by tracker1 | 2025-10-06 19:43:11+00:00
Job history, education history, actual date of birth capture, military service etc are all other parts of applying for a job generally speaking and can also determine if someone is "old" ... as an older guy, I myself have seen a lot of shift the closer I got to my current age of 50yo.

UUIDv7 isn't exactly the compromise it's made out to be in the current context.
by JustExAWS | 2025-10-06 19:43:39+00:00
Most people in the middle class can’t afford to put any decent chunk in their 401Ks let alone invest any meaningful amount above that.

But funny enough, most of the people I know that do invest in individual stocks, bitcoin etc are people in the servjce industry who are single and make decent money on tips. I live in very heavy tourist town.

But since this is a site of tech heavy participants, if you are a software developer or adjacent, you are on average making twice the median local wage for your area if you are in the US even as a enterprise Dev 2-5 years out of school and should be able to invest at least 15% if your income.
by Archelaos | 2025-10-06 19:43:54+00:00
Isn't the whole system somewhat too limited? An interaction can be unpleasant and pleasant at the same time, like getting food offered I dislike when I am very hungry. Instead, shouldn't it be preferable to model the inner state of NPCs with a high dimensional vector space plus fading memory? Folk psychology emotions could than be interpreted as reductions of this high dimensional vector space. We also could use a part of the vector space for a dynamic feedback system, such as adjusting the fading of a particular memory depending on particular values (intens events remain longer in memory, ...) an overall condition (repeated recent events remain longer in memory; certain recent events in close proximity in the vector space improve their memorization, ...), other memories, etc.
by Animats | 2025-10-06 19:44:18+00:00
That's happening to the automobile market in China. Electric car and battery manufacturing costs go down with scale. Way down. Huge electric car glut in China. Car prices crashing. Government worried.[1]

Profit margin of China car companies is down to around 4%.

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/26/cars/chinese-electric-cars-pr...
by riesenheim | 2025-10-06 19:44:38+00:00
Here are more expansive reflections on FGCS from Alan Kay and Markus Triska: https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Japan-s-Fifth-Generation-Compu...

The paper of Ueda they cite is so lovely to read, full of marvelous ideas:

Ueda K. Logic/Constraint Programming and Concurrency: The hard-won lessons of the Fifth Generation Computer project. Science of Computer Programming. 2018;164:3-17. doi:10.1016/j.scico.2017.06.002 open access: https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S01676423173012...
by dang | 2025-10-06 19:44:56+00:00
Related. Others?

Legal experts condemn Apple bowing to White House's request to remove ICEBlock - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45480422 - Oct 2025 (32 comments)

Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45472799 - Oct 2025 (128 comments)

Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45457333 - Oct 2025 (560 comments)
by WorldMaker | 2025-10-06 19:44:57+00:00
I think part of the current problem is that "everyone" elected a bunch of "do somethings" with what seems to be low collective civic education, way too many sledgehammers, and "new" economic ideas like retrying the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act near to its Centennial Anniversary (and to certain other related key anniversaries of the Great Depression).
by AnEro | 2025-10-06 19:45:06+00:00
Theres alot of what about women arguments which is fair, but I think it's entirely fair to view this as a harm to men's mental health, and it should be the focus.

Right now, we have a societal issue of isolating, vulnerable men. Men have the highest suicide rate, are statistically more likely to commit violent offenses and have a high rate of domestic abuse. 'Incels' who are likely these companies target market have committed domestic terrorism. I think this is an issue we should 100% be looking at, imagine what happens when there is AI misalignment? They could become a risk to themselves and others, the last thing we need is a unreliable tool for someone in that situation to sooth the pains of social isolation.
by hubraumhugo | 2025-10-06 19:45:24+00:00
Why does everyone think chat is better UX than traditional interfaces? I get the AI hype, but so many products are not a fit for chat interfaces.

Why would I use a chat to do what could be done quicker with a simple and intuitive button/input UX (e.g. Booking or Zillow search/filter)? Chat also has really poor discoverability of what I can actually do with it.
by adamcharnock | 2025-10-06 19:45:33+00:00
An example from one of our monorepo's ansible directories:

[hooks] postinstall = [ "uv sync", "ansible-galaxy role install -r ansible/requirements.yml", "ansible-galaxy collection install -r ansible/requirements.yml", ]

So following a `mise install`, the user also gets all the needed python packages installed via uv, and also all the galaxy roles/collections installed
by SirMaster | 2025-10-06 19:45:53+00:00
I understand that it's that way today. But I am talking about "potential". If OpenAI and AMD engineers get their heads together and make some new software etc, couldn't AMD in theory become as valuable as Nvidia or at least half as valuable?

It seems like to take a 350M market cap company to 2B+ or a 6x+ increase in stock price would be worth doing for a few hundred million dollar investment in software and such?
by Doctor_Fegg | 2025-10-06 19:46:01+00:00
The artist, Folon, also made this gorgeous close-down animation for French TV channel Antenne 2: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzy9GGbcvSI&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5t...

Wikipedia bio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Michel_Folon
by asim | 2025-10-06 19:46:04+00:00
It's not just as ChatGPT as the interface. It's that Chat with AI will now be the universal interface and every tech company will have their version of it. Everything you want to do will happen in one place. Cards will provide predefined and interactive experience. Over time you'll see entirely dynamic content get generated on the fly. The user experience is going to be one where we've shrunk websites to apps and apps to cards or widgets. Effectively any action you need to take can be done like this and then agents can operate more complex workflow in the background. This is probably the interface for the next 10 years and what replaces the mobile app experience and stronghold that Apple or Google have. This lasts until fully immersive AR/VR become a more mainstream thing. At that point these cards are on a heads up display but we'll be looking at something totally different. Like agents roaming the earth...
by autonomousErwin | 2025-10-06 19:46:05+00:00
I'm becoming more convinced that this kind of rhetoric is usually peddled by individuals who haven't actually built anything notable (granted, that's most of us).

If all you're doing is using AI to build products, by definition, you're gravitating to the mean.

The AI doesn't care about a delightful product, it cares about satisfying its objective function and the deeper you go the more the two will diverge simply because building a good product is really complex and there are many many paths in the decision maze.
by WillieCubed | 2025-10-06 19:46:10+00:00
It's poetic that Google attempted to pursue apps within Google Assistant years ago, but the vision of apps within an AI assistant is more feasible now with LLMs that (whether actually or not) understand arbitrary user intents and more flexible connectors to third party apps via MCP (and a viral platform with 700+ million weekly active users).

Custom GPTs (and Gemini gems) didn't really work because they didn't have any utility outside the chat window. They were really just bundled prompt workflows that relied on the inherent abilities of the model. But now with MCP, agent-based apps are way more useful.

I believe there's a fundamentally different shift going on here: in the endgame that OpenAI, Anthropic et al. are racing toward, there will be little need for developers for the kinds of consumer-facing apps that OpenAI appears to be targeting.

OpenAI hinted at this idea at the end of their Codex demo: the future will be built from software built on demand, tailored to each user's specific needs.

Even if one doesn't believe that AI will completely automate software development, it's not unreasonable to think that we can build deterministic tooling to wrap LLMs and provide functionality that's good enough for a wide range of consumer experiences. And when pumping out code and architecting software becomes easy to automate with little additional marginal cost, some of the only moats other companies have are user trust (e.g. knowing that Coursera's content is at least made by real humans grounded in reality), the ability to coordinate markets and transform capital (e.g. dealing with three-sided marketplaces on DoorDash), switching costs, or ability to handle regulatory burdens.

The cynic in me says that today's announcements are really just a stopgap measure to: - Further increase the utility of ChatGPT for users, turning it into the de facto way of accessing the internet for younger users à la how Facebook was (is?) in developing countries - Pave the way for by commoditizing OpenAI's complements (traditional SaaS apps) as ChatGPT becomes more capable as a platform with first-party experiences - Increase the value of the company to acquire more clout with enterprises and other business deals

But cynicism aside, this is pretty cool. I think there's a solid foundation here for the kind of intent-based, action-oriented computing that I think will benefit non-technical people immensely.
by jgraham | 2025-10-06 19:46:12+00:00
As someone who's been quite heavily involved with web-platform-tests, I'd caution against any use of the test pass rate as a metric for anything.

That's not to belittle the considerable achievements of Ladybird; their progress is really impressive, and if web-platform-tests are helping their engineering efforts I consider that a win. New implementations of the web platform, including Ladybird, Servo, and Flow, are exciting to see.

However, web-platform-tests specifically decided to optimise for being a useful engineering tool rather than being a good metric. That means there's no real attempt to balance the testsuite across the platform; for example a surprising fraction of the overall test count is encoding tests because they're easy to generate, not because it's an especially hard problem in browser development.

We've also consciously wanted to ensure that contributing tests is low friction, both technically and socially, in order that people don't feel inclined to withhold useful tests. Again that's not the tradeoff you make for a good metric, but is the right one for a good engineering resource.

The Interop Project is designed with different tradeoffs in mind, and overcomes some of these problems by selecting a subsets of tests which are broadly agreed to represent a useful level of coverage of an important feature. But unfortunately the current setup is designed for engines that are already implementing enough feature to be usable as general purpose web-browsers.
by JumpCrisscross | 2025-10-06 19:46:55+00:00
> "But why are you only assuming a usage time of 3 years?"

Your entire analysis rests on this point, which you fail to demonstrate. (You also cite zero sources, which isn't encouraging.)

(EDIT: This assumption is conservative, but reasonable.)

Was this AI generated?

> The cable itself costs virtually nothing

Did you attempt to look up the cost of laying new fibre trunk?

> due to their Satellites now being massively overbooked, speeds went down months to months

Then this isn't a remote location. Starlink's economics have been pretty obvious for anyone who has been on a plane, boat or train in the last decade. They're also terrifically useful for remote mining, observation and military operations.

> people noticed that it is actually cheaper to run 10 KILOMETERS / 6 Miles of Fiber cable through the jungle

Well sure, if you ignore negative exernalities a lot of stuff is cheap.
by tfourb | 2025-10-06 19:47:21+00:00
The average wholesale price for electricity in 2024 was close to 0.09 €/kwh.

The consumer price is about 0.3 €/kwh currently, depending on the deals you are getting. The difference between wholesale and consumer price is made up of transmission costs, taxes and markups of various middlemen.

Shutting down nuclear power had 0 impact on electricity prices, as wholesale prices are set by the most expensive producer needed to satisfy demand. That is usually a natural gas turbine. All producers get paid the rate that this marginal producer demands.
by spwa4 | 2025-10-06 19:47:25+00:00
The pay difference is not a factor 2. You are paid 300-400% more than in the EU easily in the US, and the difference grows if you compare net pay vs before-tax. Cost of living bay area vs center Paris is a wash. Hell, I'd say the food is actually cheaper in the US. Frankly, unless you know your way around to avoid tourist places, food is cheaper and better in the US compared to center of Paris, although I'll agree that if you look around you can find much better in Paris than in the Bay Area.

And if you're employed, especially as a SWE, medical care is better in the US. If you're not ... EU >>> US.
by nathan_douglas | 2025-10-06 19:48:26+00:00
This is really cool - the sort of thing I love seeing on HN. I'm very deeply interested in developing/interacting with realistic characters within a game world and watching them interact with another, e.g. intertribal/interpersonal squabbles in a kobold tribe, that kind of thing. I think the potential for this sort of experience in gaming is really untapped and is going to be incredible.
by noduerme | 2025-10-06 19:48:31+00:00
>> instead of attributing it to a tech failure

Hah. Here's something even nuttier: AI played a role in this as well. I really wanted to attribute it to a tech failure. I spent a sleepless night searching through tech forums and reddit, trying to figure out the likelihood of a location jumping a mile for ten minutes, then back. What I found was not reassuring. Another thing I'd noticed was that when it jumped back, it gave her exact apartment number - whereas normally it said "unnamed road". This also seemed impossible.

Then I fed the sequence of events to Gemini, which told me:

Under the specific conditions you've described, particularly the year-long history of consistently showing "Unnamed Road" and the preceding highly anomalous events (teleportation), it is extremely unlikely, bordering on virtually impossible, that someone's phone would transmit "APT 123" unless it was being spoofed.

Under further questioning, Gemini actually said I was "grasping at straws".

I admit that spoofing my location so I could drive by her apartment was pretty crazy, but I think it may be more common than people believe. There are dozens of questions on Google's community forums trying to ascertain what certain weird location behaviors mean, and tons of reddit threads about whether a partner is spoofing their location. There's a whole industry of private detectives, car GPS trackers, etc.

I just thought it might be useful or interesting to give people a window into what it's like to go down this mental rabbit hole, where these technologies for sharing can actually aggravate a sense of mistrust.

What is or isn't "normal", I don't know. But to me, the most not normal part of this story is that I told her everything, and I decided that the technology had become a barrier to establishing genuine trust. Not even because the technology was broken (which didn't help), but because it was a placebo for the more difficult pill of believing someone.
by supportengineer | 2025-10-06 19:48:41+00:00
“When it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity — y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else:

music

movies

microcode (software)

high-speed pizza delivery”
by HaZeust | 2025-10-06 19:49:23+00:00
My brother in Christ, the point is that Trump v. United States itself was unconstitutional, and that Article I, Section 3, Clause 7 of the Constitution is at direct odds with a Supreme Court decision that the president has any form of immunity for any acts. See here:

"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: *but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.*" [emphasis mine]

Not to mention, the decision for ANY evidence that could discern an act from being official, unofficial or personal as being inadmissible in court, and that we simply have to take the Executive's word for whether an act was "official" or not, is such sovereign immunity that we might as well backtrack our historical roots.

Trump v. United States is a blank check for power overreach that we have yet to see the full amount of.
by throwacct | 2025-10-06 19:49:58+00:00
Yeah... no. I'm going to pass. The premise is bad from any angle. In the case of businesses, why "create" another "Amazon" and compete with other brands when the focus should be on getting customers through my sales funnel? For developers is much worse since they are going to copy Amazon's model with brands that found a niche: Amazon Basics. In this case, it'll be OpenAI "core" (or something like that), where you do all the work, and when your "app" is somewhat famous enough or getting traction, they'll copy it, rebrand it, and bombard all old and new customers to use it instead of yours.

I'mma call it now just for the fun of it: This will go the way of their "GPT" store.
by jmclnx | 2025-10-06 19:50:29+00:00
You do not need a analysis on this :)

Simple, the US Fossil Fuel Industry + Political Contributions, or as all other countries call these contributions, bribes.

Also, I heard today the last remaining law that restricts these bribes is up before the US Supreme Court. We all know how they will rule, soon anything goes. Soon in the US, getting elected to a Federal Office will be much better than winning a lottery. Free Dinner, Free Vacations, Free Housing and a padded bank account can be fully legally had by any US Congress Person.

Edit: forgot, getting elected as President pretty can much makes you a billionaire.
by nekusar | 2025-10-06 19:50:47+00:00
> I mentally add, "... because we can't even test for it when we pull you over, so... please don't."

Thats not entirely true.

I knew 2 people who loved to drive high. Evidently it feels great (their words, not mine).

Now, being incapacitated or inebriated with any substance is illegal. Even prescription drugs. And basic roadside sobriety tests like "walk in straight line", can be an easy fail if you cant stand up.

Now weirdly, ive never heard of anyone ticketed or pulled for driving sick or very tired. Even though both of those conditions can also be just as dangerous.
by ndriscoll | 2025-10-06 19:51:30+00:00
The general public probably just needs basic HTML/CSS/JS support along with gzip, zstd, and common image and video formats. Stuff like beacons, accelerometers, bluetooth, device memory, webusb, battery status, etc. (so basically all of the "platform" part of the "web platform") are either extremely niche or actively harmful.
by felixhandte | 2025-10-06 19:51:55+00:00
It was really hard to resist spilling the beans about OpenZL on this recent HN post about compressing genomic sequence data [0]. It's a great example of the really simple transformations you can perform on data that can unlock significant compression improvements. OpenZL can perform that transformation internally (quite easily with SDDL!).

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45223827
by rafram | 2025-10-06 19:52:05+00:00
Increased tolerance to THC actually makes it get you less high (for lack of a better term). You need a higher dose to be the same level of impaired. Real stoners can be totally functional and barely even high while hitting a vape every few minutes, but a first-time cannabis user might be on the floor after a single hit.

AFAIK the same isn’t true of alcohol - people who drink a lot may learn to be more functional while drunk, but I don’t believe that someone with a high tolerance has any faster of a reaction time than someone with a low tolerance, if their BACs are the same.