MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by Groxx | 2025-10-11 22:43:27+00:00
people have been gluing other languages on top of languages practically forever - it's a DSL.

no single language is ideally suited for every situation, it's not inherently a sign of failure that someone makes a DSL.

and since annotations are part of the language, this is still all "the language is flexible enough to build the framework [despite being wildly different than normal code]" so I don't think it even supports that part.
by tavavex | 2025-10-11 22:43:39+00:00
> Perhaps the U.S. will try to extradite you. (I would hope most nations have sensible checks and balances to prevent extradition over this sort of thing, but it would still be a PITA.)

I don't think there's any countries that allow extradition for actions that aren't crimes in their own country. Extradition treaties, as far as I know, aren't straightforward conveyor belts that let any countries hoover up anyone inconvenient for them, the requested countries don't want to let go of their own people for no reason, and can deny these requests as they see fit.

Being held up at an entry point to the US is a real worry, but at this stage I feel like they're not quite psychotic enough to be causing international drama over a Facebook post, so actions like these will probably remain domestic for a while.

The location where these websites are hosted probably doesn't matter - if you posted something the US doesn't like and you end up in a situation where they can get to you, no one would care about where exactly you posted it. All bets are off.
by JumpCrisscross | 2025-10-11 22:44:08+00:00
> AI companies are competing with each other for that revenue so total spend will go down

You're describing elasticity. None of this is particularly novel. If there is sufficient demand, the thesis is met: returns may not be astronomical, but they'll be positive for at least some of the major players. (Those with the most efficient operations or ability to command a price premium.)
by einpoklum | 2025-10-11 22:45:11+00:00
> I uploaded a photo on my phone to Microsoft's

That's your problem right there.

> Microsoft only lets you opt out of AI photo scanning

Their _UI_ says they let you opt out. I wouldn't bet on that actually being the case. At the very least - a copy of your photos goes to the US government, and they do whatever they want with it.
by scuff3d | 2025-10-11 22:45:30+00:00
From what I can tell this seems like a classic example of devs just not communicating. On mobile I don't see any mention of a "Pro" option on the front page, and I don't see any "essays" about it either. Perhaps its buried in one of the essays, or maybe it's been communicated elsewhere, but if you're planning to launch a paid service around an open source app it's really a good idea to communicate the intent clearly BEFORE it's launched. If it just comes out of no where it feels to the community like they're getting rug pulled. On top of that terms like "Pro" and "Premium" and "Plus" have been ruined by predatory subscription models. Similar thing happened to Hyperland a while back and I think a lot has to do with the language used.

That said, the terms seem perfectly reasonable, and a life long license is great. Though 300 dollars is going to cause sticker shock to a solo dev I think.

Edit:

To the devs I would recommended adding something like "All features of Datastar are free and open source. If you would like to support us consider donating or purchasing a lifetime license for access to <insert stuff here>", to the home page, maybe under the intro to the project" And drop the "Pro" branding.
by w10-1 | 2025-10-11 22:45:47+00:00
It's nice to review the features, but the history of Java isn't really about features or even programmer popularity.

(1) It was the first disruptive enterprise business model. They aimed to make everyone a Java programmer with free access (to reduce the cost of labor), but then charge for enterprise (and embedded and browser) VM's and containers. They did this to undercut the well-entrenched Microsoft and IBM. (IBM followed suit immediately by dumping their high-end IDE and supporting the free Eclipse. This destroyed competition from Borland and other IDE makers tying their own libraries and programming models.)

(2) As an interpreted language, Java became viable only with good JIT's. Borland's was the first (in JDK 1.1.7), but soon Urs Holzle, a UCSB professor, created the HotSpot compiler that has seeded generations of performance gains. The VM and JIT made it possible to navigate the many generations of hardware delivering and orders-of-magnitude improvements and putting software in every product. Decoupling hardware and software reduced the vertical integration that was killing customers (which also adversely affected Sun Microsystems).

btw, Urs Holzle went on to become Google employee #8 and was responsible for Google using massively parallel off-the-shelf hardware in its data centers. He made Google dreams possible.
by JumpCrisscross | 2025-10-11 22:46:23+00:00
> There's difference between running on a margin of 5% and 90% at those scale

OP said revenue, not profit. And neither of those numbers are relevant to Google, which runs a 32% (28%) operating (net) margin [1].

That said, yes, Google is the most profitable company in the world [2]. But its $116bn is not in a different league from Microsoft's $102bn, Apple's $99bn or Saudi Aramco's $96bn.

[1] https://s206.q4cdn.com/479360582/files/doc_financials/2025/q...

[2] https://www.financecharts.com/screener/most-profitable
by sgarland | 2025-10-11 22:46:36+00:00
I hadn’t heard about Datastar until this brouhaha started, but having read everything, I’ve come to the conclusion that many people are entitled primadonnas.

I really do not understand the outrage. Nothing has been taken away, it hasn’t been relicensed, etc. I saw someone complaining that extracting the commit prior to the change was “an arcane git command.” Are you serious? If you can’t figure out how to get the parent of a given commit, I have no idea how you stay employed in tech.

I applaud the library author for making some money while also not rug-pulling. I personally think the license should be more copyleft, but if anything, the fact that it isn’t should negate anyone’s complaints.

It’s almost as if there is a disturbingly large percentage of the community that has no idea how to code, doesn’t have the drive to learn - much less produce something original and market it - and just fakes it by vibe-coding on top of libraries and frameworks.
by Andrex | 2025-10-11 22:46:37+00:00
Throw away the DMCA and you throw away all safe harbors for websites, and then the internet is truly screwed. There's no way the current congress would ever accept such a thing again -- Section 230 has been weaponized against it already.

What we should be saying is Improve the DMCA. You've already clued into the biggest thing that needs to change (DRM/anti-anti-circumvention).

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. This is unpopular to say in HN-type circles but the DMCA is actually not that bad and mostly works as it should.
by skibbityboop | 2025-10-11 22:47:21+00:00
Yes, when dementia has you terrified of, or raging at, your closest loved ones (who you don't remember at all so you think they're demons or strangers) all day every day to the point where they all can't stand you and feel terrible for wishing death would come to end your massive suffering. Beautiful moments, just beautiful.

Hanging in there with cancer? Sure, fight it and deal with the pain. Dementia? No, please end it. The two aren't even close in comparison, cancer feels easy and merciful.
by marcosdumay | 2025-10-11 22:47:36+00:00
> I believe Google has earned the most revenue of any business ever

As people pointed, this is wrong.

But anyway, Google's revenue last year was enough to satisfy the smallest point of the interval the article points out. And barely so.

So if everything goes perfectly for the next 5 years capital-wise, and AI manages to capture Google's revenue, at the most optimist conditions, they will be able to break even with depreciation.

Honestly, that is better than what I was expecting. But it completely different from the picture you will see in any media.
by snovymgodym | 2025-10-11 22:48:01+00:00
ReactOS, the effort to create a free and open source Windows NT reimplementation.

It has been in existence in some form or another for nearly 30 years, but did not gain the traction it needed and as of writing it's still not in a usable state on real hardware. It's not abandoned, but progress on it is moving so slow that I doubt we'll ever see it be released in a state that's useful for real users.

It's too bad, because a drop in Windows replacement would be nice for all the people losing Windows 10 support right now.

On the other hand, I think people underestimate the difficulty involved in the project and compare it unfavorably to Linux, BSD, etc. Unix and its source code was pretty well publicly documented and understood for decades before those projects started, nothing like that ever really existed for Windows.
All-in-One Church Management System for Smaller Churches
by rcullins | 2025-10-11 22:48:24+00:00
I have an idea for a lean software-as-a-service offering for smaller Christian churches, packaged as a whole and priced based on church size. The app would be exclusively web-based, and pretty opinionated, geared toward quick setup and intelligent defaults, to help churches with few staff/volunteers manage things simply, without the complexity of a larger system like Planning Center.

At least initially, the system would include:

- Church website publishing - Sermon library - Event management - Service/Liturgy organization - Hymn/Song management

The idea would be to keep things simple and small wherever possible (team and scope), so that the price point could be low enough for small ministries.

Do you think there's a need for something like this, or is the market already too crowded?
by tavavex | 2025-10-11 22:48:27+00:00
Which developing countries? I thought that many of those countries were either tied up with 'real', physical crime or just wouldn't care about internet stuff all that much. Lots of sketchy websites (like lots of piracy-related stuff) are hosted in countries where legal consequences are unlikely, even if it's illegal on paper. I can see how the more authoritarian countries can be going after social media posts based on grudges, but I'm wondering about which ones actively practice it - I don't know much about it.
by immibis | 2025-10-11 22:48:55+00:00
Cash loses value at a relatively predictable rate. Equities and other assets gain and lose value at unpredictable rates. There are different rates and different predictabilities. When investors are happy, equities skyrocket to the moon; when investors are unhappy, they crash. US equities in the last 100ish years had an amazing upwards run that is atypical of anywhere else, anywhen else, or any other asset class; is that expected to continue or is it just survivor bias?

Stocks tend to go upwards much more than cash, in the long term, even accounting for crashes. But those crashes are still big. IIRC, if you buy right after a big crash, you get about twice as much stock for the same price, and skip ahead 10 years (25% of the complete duration of the game) compared to someone who bought right before. I haven't run the numbers but I'm assuming that means it's worth holding only cash for 10 years if you're sure there will definitely be a crash some time in that 10 years. That's a best case scenario but 10 years of retirement is not something to be gambled lightly.

also, is Bitcoin a currency?
by gregsadetsky | 2025-10-11 22:49:09+00:00
I came back to this comment just to thank you - I started off with Claude, feeding it my personal site, my résumé, the HN roast of me, etc. and it was super funny.

But then, I veered that same conversation into asking for GTM (go to market) advice, and it was actually really good. It actually felt tailored to me (unsurprisingly) and a lot more useful.

As always, I don't know whether this is a very light form of "ai psychosis" haha but still, super grateful for the advice. Cheers
by orwin | 2025-10-11 22:49:37+00:00
I dislike the argumentative tone, especially when it seems to strawman rather than steelman the argument, i had to watch the original video.

I think the original video is misrepresented, it argue that Sysco is a local monopoly for restaurants in rural areas, not a global monopoly. And it does absolutely mention its two big competitors, especially when Sysco tried a merger with one, and the two of them are in a merger themselves.

I won't argue point by point since i really, really dislike this argumentative method, but to me, the main argument from OP is: consumer have choices, and chose low-quality (the part about the frozen line especially is interesting). The video argues that Sysco is a local monopoly and that in reality, few restaurant truly have a choice of what they serve, so they serve shit even if they don't want to , more and more expensive shit as Sysco's earnings are rising, and people are just now starting to notice.

Living close to an agri co-op, and being raised near a farmer's market (not in the US though), it does track, but local monoply power is not where i think those companies truly make their money. It's their local monopsony power. Coop like working with global logistic companies at first, since they propose the lowest prices and can buy in bulk, and work well with futures. But as soon as the local competion dies, restrictions start to happen on what the coop can do until even local restaurant have to use the logistic food companies instead of the local coop (luckily, here we have regulations and this was banned 25 years ago)

At worst, the original video inform consumers, and given Op's belief in information:

> The reality is if you’re an informed consumer, you probably aren’t. Sysco’s frozen food line is incredibly easy to spot, and is only available at low-quality establishments.

i don't understand why he argues against it. Yes, the fact are presented in an ideological manner, but isn't the consumers more informed after?
by jedberg | 2025-10-11 22:49:56+00:00
I've said it before and I'll said it again:

The people investing in AI companies (and the big players spending in AI) are seeking Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). It's the only way they get a return on their capital.

They are investing so they can get there first. Money basically becomes meaningless at that point, whoever owns the AGI owns the world. That's the only way to get a return on that investment.
by Andrex | 2025-10-11 22:50:41+00:00
They got me by the balls with Kindle.

Someone(/me if I had enough time) should make some kind of LLM scraper extension for Amazon's Web Reader. Run it on your own ebooks while you're signed in and you get the EPUBs. Maybe this already exists...

I know there was some kind of cutoff earlier this year for unDRMing your Kindle books, but I definitely missed that by a mile.
by 1718627440 | 2025-10-11 22:51:47+00:00
I only declare variables at the begin of a block, not because I would need C89 compatibility, but because I find it clearer to establish the working set of variables upfront. This doesn't restrict me in anyway, because I just start a new block, when I feel the need. I also try to keep the scope of a variable as small as possible.
by Ekaros | 2025-10-11 22:52:03+00:00
In current system if you do not do actual straight up criminal fraud you get charged for you get to keep all the money you got on the way. So even if math never makes sense there is money to be earned for the time being. And then when it fails, well there is always the next scheme. And next round of people who believe they can extract their share on the way.
by useless_foghorn | 2025-10-11 22:52:30+00:00
Garmin's Enduro 3 claims 13.3 days[1] of continuous GPS tracking with solar recharge and is tested to have 5 continuous days without[2].

[1] https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-7AD1A592-9044-4... [2] https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/camping-and-hiking/gp...
by immibis | 2025-10-11 22:52:32+00:00
As another comment pointed out, P/E 25 is still absolutely insane. Realistic ordinary numbers are more like... 5 - since that means with 100% of the company's earnings going to dividends, it would take you 5 years to break even. 100% of the company's earnings don't go to dividends, though, so probably 10 years or more. Which is about the longest that a company that pays the highest dividends it can could be expected to last.

A P/E of 25 only makes sense if we expect Google to pentuple its earnings. Already one of the biggest companies on the planet, become five times as big? It seems preposterous.
by tonyhart7 | 2025-10-11 22:52:39+00:00
"if you commoditize games, they become worthless"

???? hmm wrong??? if everyone can make game, the floor is raising making the "industry standard" of a game is really high

while I agree with you that if everything is A then A is not meaning anything but the problem is A isn't vanish, they just moved to another higher tier
by CrimsonRain | 2025-10-11 22:52:42+00:00
1. Just because you can use var in a place, doesn't mean you should. Use it where the type would be obvious when reading code like

var myPotato = new PotatoBuilder.build();

not like

var myFood = buyFood();

where buyFood has Potato as return type.

2. Even if you don't follow 1, IDEs can show you the type like

var Potato (in different font/color) myFood = buyFood();
by em-bee | 2025-10-11 22:53:12+00:00
hmm, i don't want to come across as argumentative, it is more curiosity, because i simply never wrote apps that way. i just don't see how application logic could affect the data itself. the data is independent, and of course there are constraints for data consistency, but it is completely separated from the application logic. application logic doesn't make it into the database at all, or if it does then at best i might store some application specific states in a separate area in the database. effectively a different database than the one that has actual data. i can't think of an example where that separation would not be possible.
by tavavex | 2025-10-11 22:53:33+00:00
This entire story is a culmination of this effect. If 'celebrating someone's death' was a crime in the US, there's no doubt they would've used that to accuse that man. But since that's not actually illegal, they had to bend it out of shape until his milquetoast barely-criticism could somehow be interpreted as an active threat against some random high school. It would be funny if this wasn't completely acceptable behavior now.
by BoredPositron | 2025-10-11 22:53:44+00:00
Discoverability is key, especially if you're charging for features, so placing them in reference is a bit odd. Calling it Pro doesn't help either if it's just a fancy donor button with some convenience sprinkled in. In any case, the general tone of the discussion on HN over the last three days and of the linked post doesn't make me want to use the product anyway. Everyone involved seems to like a bit of drama in their lifes.
by makeitdouble | 2025-10-11 22:53:46+00:00
> The only reason these persist

You make it sound like a simplistic game with set rules. There will be myriads of other reasons to breach companies, and even strictly sticking to the money part, doing ransom/extortion can have secondary and tertiary effects worth enough to do it even if the ransom fails.

If you look at it as a market, the victim is only one actor among many.
by martinald | 2025-10-11 22:53:52+00:00
I think the fibre optic analogy is a bad one. The key reason supply massively outstripped demand was that optical equipment massively improved in efficiency.

We are not seeing that (currently) with GPUs. Perf/watt has basically completely stalled out recently while tokens per user has easily increased in many use cases has went up 100x+ (take Claude code usage vs normal chat usage). It's very very unlikely we will get breakthroughs in compute efficiency in the same way we did in the late 90s/2000s for fiber optic capacity.

Secondly, I'm not convinced the capex has increased that much. From some brief research the major tech firms (hyperscalers + meta) were spending something like $10-15bn a month in capex in 2019. Now if we assume that spend has all been rebadged AI, and adjust for inflation it's a big ramp but not quite as big as it seems, especially when you consider construction inflation has been horrendous virtually everywhere post covid.

What I really think is going on is some sort of prisoners dilemma with capex. If you don't build then you are at serious risk of shortages assuming demand does continue in even the short and medium term. This then potentially means you start churning major non AI workloads along with the AI work from eg AWS. So everyone is booking up all the capacity they can get, and let's keep in mind a small fraction of these giant trillion dollar numbers being thrown around from especially OpenAI are actually hard commitments.

To be honest if it wasn't for Claude code I would be extremely skeptical of the demand story but given I now get through millions of tokens a day, if even a small percentage of knowledge workers globally adopt similar tooling it's sort of a given we are in for a very large shortage of compute. I'm sure there will be various market corrections along the way, but I do think we are going to require a shedload more data centres.
by api | 2025-10-11 22:54:17+00:00
I firmly believe that the 9/11 terrorists won. They got what they wanted, which is exactly what you describe. They also destroyed the optimism and energy of our culture. I lived through that time, and we have never recovered. The malaise of today started on 9/11/2001.

What we should have done is, as a symbolic act, rebuild the towers exactly as they were (with some structural improvements maybe) and go about our business. We should have gone after the terrorists as an international police action and not much more.

That would have been a symbol of true strength. "No, your little act of vandalism won't have any effect on us at all. We are above that." Be like the "wall" archetype in fiction, the huge guy someone punches as hard as they can and they barely notice.

Instead we showed stupidity and weakness disguised as strength, something we're now wallowing in with a whole culture revolving around fake strength and compensatory narcissism. Nothing says dying nation like gold plating everything.
by dghlsakjg | 2025-10-11 22:54:17+00:00
In some places in the states, yes, all three can be elected.

Typically the sheriff is always elected, the DA almost always elected, and for the judges it depends, but if they aren’t elected they are appointed by elected officials.

The other thing to remember is that the US judicial system varies tremendously by state. No two states are the same so there is no easy way to summarize it.
by HiPhish | 2025-10-11 22:54:20+00:00
I think a lot of normies still think that when they buy a smart appliance they are buying an appliance like from yesteryear, except with more features. In reality they are buying a computer shaped like an appliance of yesteryear. Your smartphone? That's not a phone, it's a computer shaped like a phone. Smart TV? Computer shaped like a TV. Smart watch? Computer shaped like a watch.

This brings with it all the advantages and disadvantages of a computer. Except that the user is not given any of the advantages they have with a desktop or laptop computer. Companies get away with it because in the normie's mind the smart watch is a watch first and foremost, and who would expect to log into a terminal on a watch? Why would you need security updated for a wristwatch? This is how artificially restricted technology is slowly being introduced into people's live, one appliance at a time.