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by ibejoeb | 2025-10-17 18:39:46+00:00
Let's assume that estimate is good. For some perspective an context, the last finalized DOD budget (2023) was $815B, and, plus supplementals, turned into about $852 billion.

AGI is absolutely a national security concern. Despite it being an enormous number, it'll happen. It may not be earmarked for OpenAI, but the US is going to ensure that the energy capability is there.
by bee_rider | 2025-10-17 18:39:50+00:00
I finally used it for a couple little things, but mostly as a fuzzier replacement for search, where it does do pretty well. Of course nowadays classic search is in shambolic so it is kind like a mediocre prime-aged boxer fighting an 70 year old champion or something.

Anyway, I bet it will be really useful for cool stuff if it can ever run on my laptop!
by kulahan | 2025-10-17 18:40:04+00:00
lol, I was looking at fun cars for my most recent purchase, and Audi E-Trons are available for 50% off if you buy them just a year old. Apparently they stabilize in price after that, but GOODNESS GRACIOUS that's a big dropoff in a single year. It was crazy to see Audi's newest top-of-the-line offering (not their RS offering, to be clear) for the same price as an entry-level BMW M.
by zer00eyz | 2025-10-17 18:40:10+00:00
I spend most of my time writing go (among other languages).

Candidly its decentralized nature when it comes to "packages" is one of its strengths. It does have downsides, and yes GitHub could be at issue at some point.

After this, after NPM compromises (left pad and more recently the supply chain attacks) why we arent seeing more community driven changes around decentralization and venturing is beyond me.
by Closi | 2025-10-17 18:40:22+00:00
That depends - scrapers are currently annoying and temperamental and you have to maintain them. Also the idea of allowing some random person from Fiverr to write some code you are going to have running in your infra that has access to your webshop, ERP and the open internet isn't usually that palatable to most IT teams.

A simple and reliable API? That's different.
by socalgal2 | 2025-10-17 18:40:33+00:00
> But the press of today is a for profit endeavour.

For me, the press today is a for influence endeavour. Most journalists have a POV the majority of topics they write about they express that POV with how they discuss the topic. For example, which people they quote, generally only ones that agree with their POV. If they present an a opposing view they always couch it and phrase things to push the reader to discount that view. If they preset a supporting view they phrase it in a way to make it sound trusting and authoritative.

To put it more simply, most journalists are trying to change the world to see things their way.
by IT4MD | 2025-10-17 18:40:37+00:00
>Why can't OpenAI keep projecting/promising massive data centre growth year after year, fail to deliver, and keep making Number Go Up?

Because eventually, Nvidia will run out of money, so the incestuous loop between Nvidia funding AI entities, who then use those funds to buy Nvidia chips, artificially propping up Nvidia's stock price, will eventually end and poof.

Competing forces are the market's insatiable need for growth every quarter, and other countries also chasing AIs and will not slow down if other countries, like the US, do slow down.
by saghm | 2025-10-17 18:40:40+00:00
At the very least, I find this argument to be fairly reasonable:

> Safe languages usually want to abort if they encounter an out-of-memory (OOM) situation. SQLite is designed to recover gracefully from an OOM. It is unclear how this could be accomplished in the current crop of safe languages.

I don't think most Rust code written today has guardrails in the case of OOM. I don't think this disqualifies Rust for most things, because I happen to find the trade-off worth it compared to the things it does protect against that C doesn't, but I don't think it's a particularly controversial take that Rust still could use some ergonomic improvements around handling allocation failures. Right now, trying to create a Box or Vec can theoretically fail at runtime if no memory is available, and those failures aren't returned from the functions called to create them. Handling panics is something you can normally do in Rust, but if you're already OOM, things get complicated pretty fast.

I agree that in the long run it would probably make sense to have something like this in Rust when eventually the current maintainers aren't around, but I also don't think it makes much sense to criticize them for continuing to maintain the code that already exists.
by florkbork | 2025-10-17 18:40:52+00:00
Right?

Why is there (seemingly) no public offer to former maintainers to rejoin, or acknowledgement of wrongdoing having been done as part of this? It's practically zero cost to do that; as the Ruby core team is (largely) not the party that inflicted harm.

Politeness? Conspiracy to have done this all along? Cultural differences around public vs private opinions? Something else?

What would we think if this wasn't a software project but a hijacked community bus, being passed from party to party, pretending nothing is untoward about the whole situation while the passengers are still aboard? "Oh good, the new bus drivers are politely accepting the keys from the hijackers; all is well!"?

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/1o8zz3e/comment/njywb... No discussion with maintainers
by jbotz | 2025-10-17 18:41:20+00:00
> The [human] brain seems to be hundreds of thousands to millions of times more energy efficient than any kind of current AI

I don't know about that... I've consumed quite a few calories in my lifetime directly, plus there is all the energy needed for me to live in a modern civilization and make the source material available to me for learning (schools, libraries, internet) and I still only have a minuscule fraction of the information in my head that a modern LLM does after a few months of training.

Translated into KWh, I've used very roughly 50,000 KWh just in terms of food calories... but a modern human uses between 20x and 200x as much energy in supporting infrastructure than the food calories they consume, so we're at about 1 to 10 GWh, which according to GPT5 is in the ballpark for what it took to train GPT3 or GPT4... GPT5 itself needing about 25x to 30x as much energy to train... certainly not 100s of thousands to millions of times as much. And again, these LLMs have a lot more information encoded into them available for nearly instant response than even the smartest human does, so we're not really comparing apples with apples here.

In short, while I wouldn't rule out that the brain uses quantum effects somehow, I don't think there's any spectacular energy-efficiency there to bolster that argument.
by blibble | 2025-10-17 18:42:35+00:00
> Other than his mention of Tommy Robinson, it is not radical or unacceptable to say "Wow, my city has changed radically in the past 20 years and is losing its identity".

what does DHH, a Dane, who as far as I'm aware has never lived in London (and certainly doesn't now), know about London/the UK?

absolutely fuck all

he should keep his trap shut, in the same way Elon Musk should stop attempting to stoke nationalist fires in a foreign nation

I am also a (British, not American) liberal, and I agree with your comments about integration

the UK has an integration problem that successive political leaders have attempted to brush under the carpet, whilst ignoring the electorate's desire for a reduced rate of immigration

but the sort of nativist crassness displayed in that blog post is not the answer

and leads down a very nasty road that we thought we had defeated forever 60 years ago

> And the UK really seems to have a free speech problem. Support Palestine too much? Jail. Support immigration controls too much? Believe or not, jail.

I'm afraid this type of authoritarianism always seems to come with a labour government
by adastra22 | 2025-10-17 18:42:52+00:00
FYI Penrose is a cautionary tale in the physicist community. He is/was once a competent academic, but his quantum consciousness ideas are viewed similarly to tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. It is technobabble word salad; quantum woo driven more by a personal objection to the implications of Newtonian determinism to the philosophy of the mind, not reason.

We understand quantum interactions more than sufficiently enough to know that the thread of hope he clings to, the soul of the gaps via quantum woo, is not in any way plausible. It is comparable to a perpetual motion machine.
by mattskr | 2025-10-17 18:42:58+00:00
Reality check. UNICEF and the WHO say there are 2 billion people without access to clean drinking water. They have slightly more pressuring issues than trying to log into chatgpt. Only slightly.

The blockchain/bitcoin bros tried the same marketing spin. "Bitcoin will end poverty once we get it into everyone's hands." When that started slipping, NFTs will save us all.

Yeah. Sure. Been there. Done that. Just needs "more investment"... and then more... then more... all because of self reported "growth".
by array_key_first | 2025-10-17 18:42:58+00:00
No it's not a joke at all.

When you buy wifi, they already make sure you're an adult. They ask for proof of residence, you sign a contract. Children cannot buy wifi. Go ahead and try - no ISP is going to write a contract with a child.

Wifi, like tobacco and alcohol, is already age restricted.

The problem is the adults buying it then turn around and just... Hand it to children. That's not the fault of the law or society.

Like, okay the store clerk might make sure when I buy a pack of menthols I'm of age. But if I just go home and hand my kid the pack of menthols, all bets are off. That's not the store clerks problem, he can't and won't get in trouble for that.

Parents and establishments are being stupid here. Same applies for public wifi. Don't want kids to use it? Okay, give it a password, only tell the password to adults. Easy peasy.

The law can't stop parents from being stupid.
by j45 | 2025-10-17 18:43:09+00:00
Being of scientific mind, I keep in mind that scientific discoveries existed the whole time until they were discovered as well.

The research on what we can see and learn in the brain is remarkable in the last 10 years. fMRI alone is staggering.

Your question seems to be one of enough resolution. The brain continues to get more attention in greater and greater resolution.

There seems to me more research in the area which is encouraging too.

I don't get the feeling your'e really interested in it other than looking at where the research is occurring and building from where and how you want to see it. Time will tell either way.
by AnimalMuppet | 2025-10-17 18:43:27+00:00
Isn't that one of the measures of when it becomes an AGI? So that doesn't help you with however many nines we are away from getting an AGI.

Even if you don't like that definition, you still have the question of how many nines we are away from having an AI that can contribute to its own development.

I don't think you know the answer to that. And therefore I think your "fast acceleration within two years" is unsupported, just wishful thinking. If you've got actual evidence, I would like to hear it.
by starkparker | 2025-10-17 18:43:51+00:00
In before "redundant" since the 12" Framework doesn't have the fingerprint reader that the 13" does. This would presumably also work on the Desktop, though the expansion slots are in an awkward spot for it.

In the opposite direction, the 13's fingerpint module is sold as a separate part and there's been some past work in adapting it to non-Framework use: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-fingerprint-scanner...
by arthurofbabylon | 2025-10-17 18:44:10+00:00
Agency. If one studied the humanities they’d know how incredible a proposal “agentic” AI is. In the natural world, agency is a consequence of death: by dying, the feedback loop closes in a powerful way. The notion of casual agency (I’m thinking of Jensen Huang’s generative > agentic > robotic insistence) is bonkers. Some things are not easily speedrunned.

(I did listen to a sizable portion of this podcast while making risotto (stir stir stir), and the thought occurred to me: “am I becoming more stupid by listening to these pundits?” More generally, I feel like our internet content (and meta content (and meta meta content)) is getting absolutely too voluminous without the appropriate quality controls. Maybe we need more internet death.)
by jngiam1 | 2025-10-17 18:44:49+00:00
MCPs have a larger impact beyond the terminal - you can use it with ChatGPT, Claude Web, n8n, LibreChat, and it comes with considerations for auth, resources, and now even UI (e.g., apps-sdk from OpenAI is on MCP).

If we're considering primarily coding workflows and CLI-based agents like Claude Code, I think it's true that CLI tools can provide a ton of value. But once we go beyond that to other roles - e.g., CRM work, sales, support, operations, finance; MCP-based tools are going to have a better form factor.

I think Skills go hand-in-hand with MCPs, it's not a competition between the two and they have different purposes.

I am interested though, when the python code in Skills can call MCPs directly via the interpreter... that is the big unlock (something we have tried and found to work really well).
by alganet | 2025-10-17 18:45:10+00:00
You could have recorded, found it to be good, and didn't shared the news. Only used for your self. But you decided to share only the news, not the recording. That tells me something.

To be more clear, I can move this argument further. I promise you that if you share the recording that led you to believe that, I will not judge it. In fact, I will do the opposite and focus on people who judge it, trying my best to make the recording look good and point out whoever is nitpicking.
by thelastgallon | 2025-10-17 18:45:25+00:00
> His "$400B in next 12 months" claim treats OpenAI as paying construction costs upfront. But OpenAI is leasing capacity as operating expense - Oracle finances and builds the data centers [1].

It is bagholders all the way down[1]! The final bagholder will be the taxpayer/pension holder.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down
by everforward | 2025-10-17 18:45:43+00:00
The inconsistent part is the assured decay, as opposed to a low chance of catastrophic failure.

Your ICE car will either continue working basically the same, or it will fail catastrophically. I don't have to worry about my gas tank getting smaller over time, and even if it inexplicably does, gas stations are plentiful and stops are short.

It also makes resale rough, as people are talking about. You can salvage a power train from another scrapped car of the same model (or not, a lot of that is shared nowadays). Salvaging batteries is a bigger issue because so many will be worn down and materially worse than new, and they can be re-used which keeps their value high. Very few people have a use for an engine out of a 1983 Silverado, but a lot of people have uses for lithium ion cells.

I could probably get 2 ICE power trains for a decade old car for less than the price of a new battery pack, and I'd wager they'll go farther.
by chasd00 | 2025-10-17 18:45:44+00:00
> I'd argue we've had more progress towards fusion than AGI.

way more pogress toward fusion than AGI. Uncontrolled runaway fusion reactions were perfected in the 50s (iirc) with the thermonuclear bombs. Controllable fusion reactions have been common for many years. A controllable, self-sustaining, and profitable fusion reaction is all that is left. The goalposts that mark when AGI has been reached haven't even been defined yet.
by jansper39 | 2025-10-17 18:45:58+00:00
Battery swaps are never going to be a thing long term, even with Nio rolling it out in areas. It adds huge amounts of weight and complexity. You have to build electrical and coolant connectors which can handle large amounts of connects and disconnects, in areas that get mucky and interact with rain, salt, snow and ice. You have to build a chassis strong enough to take an impact but also support the additional weight and space that a removable battery takes up - think of how much bigger phones with removable batteries.

I have done 900 mile road trips in EVs with 150Kw charging (low by standards of newer EVs) and charging has been a complete non problem. In fact I have more problems with plugging my car in, going to the toilet and coming back finding that I've put more power into the car than I wanted.

Batteries are lasting 200k+ miles with 85-90% original capacity in so longevity is not a problem and charging is becoming a solved problems in an increasingly large portion of the world too.
by Group_B | 2025-10-17 18:46:05+00:00
At this point we all know this is just a massive bubble. I'm done paying attention to it really. I'm prepared for all my investments to go down in the next 1-5 years. If you're nearing retirement now is the time to cash out. Yes, investments could go up in a value a lot until the correction, but I don't really think that is worth the risk.
by pseudosavant | 2025-10-17 18:46:06+00:00
For perspective, there are 10 companies with a market cap over $1T. Is the value of LLMs greater than Tesla? Absolutely.

The problem of course is that plenty of that $1T in investment will go to stupid investments. The people whose investments pan out will be the next generation of Zuckerbergs. The rest will be remembered like MySpace or Webvan.
by ben_w | 2025-10-17 18:46:20+00:00
The word "consciousness" means at least 40 distinct things; some of those (e.g. brain being alive and functioning) are obviously connected to microtubles; others (e.g. qualia, which is what most understand Penrose invoked microtubles to explain) are so ill-defined as to be untestable and unfalsifiable.

That Penrose also seems to have a fundamental error in his understanding of the implications of Gödel's incompleteness theorems, doesn't help.
by JimDabell | 2025-10-17 18:46:35+00:00
> The first 90 percent of the code accounts for the first 90 percent of the development time. The remaining 10 percent of the code accounts for the other 90 percent of the development time.

— Tom Cargill, Bell Labs (September 1985)

https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/4284.315122
by alemanek | 2025-10-17 18:46:42+00:00
About 10% of the total world population is using it on a weekly basis. Take out those too old or young or illiterate technically or otherwise. Now subtract out the people without reliable internet and computer/phone. That 10% gets a whole lot bigger.

That seems like pretty strong evidence that it is generally, if not universally, useful to everyone given the opportunity.
by yardie | 2025-10-17 18:46:54+00:00
Tires, brakes, and windshield washer fluid are the only regularly replaceable parts on an EV. My last ICE car, also that age, required oil, tires, coolant flush (100k miles), transmission (100k miles), water pump, thermostat, timing belt, and tensioners. And lots and lots of filters.

So, either you were really lucky with ICE or extremely unlucky with EVs.
by jauntywundrkind | 2025-10-17 18:47:12+00:00
Skills feel so similar to specialized agents / sub-agentd, which we see some of already. I could be under appreciating the depth, but it feels like the main work here is the UX affordance: maybe like a mod launcher for games: 'what mods/prompts do you want to run with?'

I really enjoyed seeing Microsoft Amplifier last week, which similarly has a bank of different specialized sub-agents. These other banks of markdowns that get turned on for special purposes feels very similar. https://github.com/microsoft/amplifier?tab=readme-ov-file#sp... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45549848

One of the major twists with Skills seems to be that Skills also have a "frontmatter YAML" that is always loaded. It still sounds like it's at least somewhat up to the user to engage the Skills, but this "frontmatter" offers… something, that purports to help.

> There’s one extra detail that makes this a feature, not just a bunch of files on disk. At the start of a session Claude’s various harnesses can scan all available skill files and read a short explanation for each one from the frontmatter YAML in the Markdown file. This is very token efficient: each skill only takes up a few dozen extra tokens, with the full details only loaded in should the user request a task that the skill can help solve.

I'm not sure what exactly this does but conceptually it sounds smart to have a top level awareness of the specializations available.

I do feel like I could be missing some significant aspects of this. But the mod-launched paradigm feels like a fairly close parallel?
by Amezarak | 2025-10-17 18:47:15+00:00
Canola oil:

- is made from a plant historically considered inedible

- has a very high input:output ratio

- often has extensive processing steps that include industrial solvents like hexane and deodorization steps to make the end product tolerable

If that’s not a UPF then I would not regard that definition as useful.

Personally I don’t hold to any particular “seed oil” claims, but vegetable oils are a major ingredient in almost all UPFs, are very calorie dense, and canola/soybean oil have risen from near-zero to be one of if not the largest calorie source for Westerners in just the past few decades; canola oil was not even consumed before the 1970s. They would certainly be one of my main suspects in the obesity epidemic.

It’s certainly true to talk about how bad chips are we’re talking about what makes them so high calorie is the oil.
by locallost | 2025-10-17 18:47:17+00:00
My search habits have evolved quite fast - when I search for something now I first ask for quick results from Chatgpt, which gives me pointers I then drill down on. Google's revenue for 2024 was 350 billion. I know it's not all Google ads, but s lot of it is. When you follow a link from Chatgpt, it always has a utm_source=Chatgpt in it, so companies are quickly learning how important getting linked there is.

I'm not saying there's no bubble, and I personally anticipate a lot of turmoil in the next year, but monetisation of that would be the most primitive way of earning a lot of money. If anyone is dead man walking it's Google. For better or worse, Chatgpt has become to AI what Google was to search, even though I think Gemini is also good or even better. I also have my own doubts about the value of LLMs because I've already experienced a lot of caveats with the stuff it gives you. But at the same time, as long as you don't believe it blindly, getting started with something new has never been easier. If you don't see value in that, I don't know what to tell you.
by zahlman | 2025-10-17 18:47:28+00:00
> but you're not allowed to call that out, because "it's not nice".

I don't know about the Ruby community, but I've seen this sort of complaint made about many other online spaces (including HN) and my general finding is that it simply isn't true. The problem is that for a proper call-out, both form and content matter, and most people in a mindset to make call-outs don't seem very interested in norms surrounding either of those things. Especially the part where part of good form is accepting that not all kind, well-meaning people have the same moral values and calculus.
by mindcrash | 2025-10-17 18:47:31+00:00
Trump is currently exploring how (not "if") he can activate the US Insurrection Act of 1807. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807) and he wants to do it as quickly as possible.

https://www.msnbc.com/news/news-analysis/trump-national-guar...

If he does he can (and will) federalize all National Guard units so they in fact become "federal troops" and this can (and will) allow his "own" federal military through Hegseth to deploy and operate domestically. Additionally he can declare a portion of the US population "insurrectionists" and act upon it, without interference of local law enforcement and government (and the risk of also labeled the same if they do).

As a European with quite some knowledge about European history hopefully I do not have to take a history book and explain the repercussions of Trump doing this?