MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by stephen_g | 2025-09-22 13:25:11+00:00
I had* an 11th Gen Intel NUC that couldn’t sleep at all for something like a year due to EFI bugs… They finally did eventually fix the regression but really, it’s just incredible - if one company should be able to do EFI right it’s Intel!

I’m not sure if this was related to “modern standby” (it was around that time if I recall) but that hasn’t really helped anything. This is a desktop so why they insist on deprecating real standby for everything is beyond me…

* I actually still have it but it became my home server, so now doesn’t ever need to standby, luckily.
by bayindirh | 2025-09-22 13:25:21+00:00
That's a interesting take. What I have heard from a very old friend of my father is the opposite:

> Knowing when to say thanks and when to say sorry is the key for success.

...and I have used this piece of advice since then, it paid me handsomely. Of course, this doesn't allow you to be shameless, on the contrary, it requires to stick to your values as a prerequisite.

I think what allows Elon to behave like that is how he can retaliate without any repercussions since he has tons of money and influence in some circles.
by jeffbee | 2025-09-22 13:26:06+00:00
> If you can’t hibernate (aka suspend to disk) you will never be able to get that power consumption low.

This is cope. An Apple Silicon Macbook does not need to suspend to block devices to save energy (they only do this when the battery is empty). ChromeOS doesn't offer hibernate at all. The only reason that a Framework can't have good battery life in an operating state is that nobody is paying attention to the details.
by cosmic_cheese | 2025-09-22 13:26:33+00:00
As suggested in the blog post, the battery life issue is complex.

You do need a CPU/SoC that’s efficient, and while Intel and AMD can do this it’s traditionally been a struggle for them.

Next, the OS needs to be capable of taking full advantage of the chip’s efficiency. Windows could be decent here in, but Microsoft doesn’t believe in an operating system that’s ever truly idle (and neither do the third parties living in your taskbar tray), so even on relatively efficient laptops much of that potential is wasted. Linux is kind of all over the place, depending on your hardware, which governor you’re using, how it’s configured, whether your browsers are configured to use GPU acceleration or are burning power intensive CPU cycles, etc.

Then there’s sleep. Most of the problems here come down to x86 laptops not implementing proper S3 sleep but only “modern standby”, which attempts to emulate the sleep mode that Apple uses that allows for emails to be fetched etc while in a near-sleep low-power state. The problem is that modern standby is not implemented well in Windows or Linux and how individual laptop firmwares handle it can vary a great deal, and the sum of it is that it generally speaking doesn’t work, which is why so many x86 laptops drain themselves after being “asleep” for a couple of days. My ThinkPad does this too.

It’s possible for x86 machines to manage this state correctly, as proven by Valve’s Steam Deck which can be put to sleep and drain its battery slowly enough to stay alive for a week or more. This seems to require a level of integration between the hardware and the OS (an Arch based Linux in this case) than practically all laptop vendors are either willing or capable of.
by ghaff | 2025-09-22 13:26:45+00:00
I used one as a laptop etc. bag for a long time. As laptops got a bit smaller I now tend to repurpose a Mountainsmith bag (used over the shoulder) these days as my travel "personal item." But, in any case, some sort of shoulder bag is my goto. I find there are some downsides to backpacks on public transit, etc. and I end up with them slung over one shoulder anyway so why not use something designed for that usage.
by cardanome | 2025-09-22 13:27:12+00:00
Are you a gnome user?

Linux Mint with Cinnamon is bliss. Or well anything else, you are absolutely spoiled for choice with Desktop Environments in Linux. There is the perfect one for everyone. At least if you use X11, wayland is still a turd.

I found the Mac Desktop absolutely unusable for any development work as it comes out of the box. You need a metric ton of third-party extensions for simple stuff like proper alt-tab support or custom shortcuts. An configuration is supper limited.

And it will get so much worse with the whole glasses ui thing.
by corndoge | 2025-09-22 13:27:12+00:00
> Frameworks are generally more expensive than Macs, sometimes 50% - 100% more expensive for a similar laptop.

Do you have an example? An 8tb m4 macbook pro runs over 7 grand; the comparable hx370 framework 13 is barely over 3 grand. I bought both within the last couple months and found the macs to be significantly more expensive in the segment i was looking at.
by flanked-evergl | 2025-09-22 13:27:19+00:00
"Specs" really do not mean a lot for Laptops. Most laptops are seriously bad quality, and I have not had one laptop in the past 10 years that did not require a major repair before the warranty period expired. With most laptops, you are buying e-waste. I can't afford buying e-waste. I would rather buy a laptop I can keep for 5 years without having to scrap it, and with framework I could just replace whatever breaks.

And for me Mac is not an option as I'm not using their crappy OS and I don't want to have the forever struggle of running Linux on their proprietary hardware platform.
by alephnerd | 2025-09-22 13:27:19+00:00
The median household income in the Greater Seattle Area is $121k [0] and the median house sale price is $775k [1].

This means the median income to house ratio is roughly 1:5.5

This is fairly standard across the US, and was true even 20 years ago.

For example, in 2000 the median household income ($46k [2]) and house price (~$240k [3]) ratio was roughly 1:5.5. This ratio held true in 2024 as well with a median household income of $83k [2] and a median house price of ~430k [3].

As such, the cost of buying a house as a ratio of household income hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is the perception.

[0] - https://data.census.gov/profile/Seattle_city,_Washington?g=1...

[1] - https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/seattle-top-cities-home-pr...

[2] - https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA646N

[3] - https://www.fedprimerate.com/new_home_sales_price_history.ht...
by darkwater | 2025-09-22 13:27:55+00:00
> Format shifting and personal copying are legal in Poland, but you as an individual still have to have legally obtained your original in the first place to exercise that right, and an illicit download certainly doesn't count.

Like everywhere else where personal copies are legal and you can download them. If both conditions are true, then the mere fact that you are downloading it, it's not a sign you are downloading pirated content.

OTOH there is also Spain where piracy with no direct monetary gain is tolerated and nobody goes after people torrenting.
by StopDisinfo910 | 2025-09-22 13:27:58+00:00
Qualcomm is getting there with the Snapdragon X Elite.

It's still significantly slower than the M4 but you can at least meaningfully compare them nowadays which is a strong come back from where they were when the M1 was introduced.

We are likely to see improvements now that Microsoft buys Arm chips for their Surface laptops. I guess it was hard to justify the investment before.
by ivape | 2025-09-22 13:28:02+00:00
Sounds very much like bubbles that indulge on inside jokes. In their universe, no one gets it but them, and they view themselves as connoisseurs of high art, the art itself being their own creation (indulge in one’s self). When you step out to interact with others, you act as if you and your kind are the only ones that have a clue, wink wink.

Are you saying Persians are a bunch of stuck up Goth kids? Never underestimate a human’s ability to be an absolute teenager.
by bayindirh | 2025-09-22 13:28:18+00:00
> because the Tesla can’t even see speed limit signs correctly.

This is sad and atrocious. Not only a Ford Puma (an econobox compared to a Tesla) can read almost all speed limit signs correctly, it can pull speed limit data correctly from its onboard maps when there are no signs. These maps can be updated via WiFi or an on board modem too.

Tesla mocked "big auto industry", but that elephant proved that it can run if it needs to.
by whatarethembits | 2025-09-22 13:28:37+00:00
Battery life is the only thing stopping me from getting out of the Apple ecosystem. As soon as a viable Linux laptop with "enough" battery life becomes available, I'll make the switch. At that point there's nothing on Apple side that couldn't be done better in Linux (with a bit of work, but that's okay).

I travel a lot, and often on standby for work during that time. I need to be confident that when I pull the laptop out, there's ALWAYS enough juice to respond to a situation immediately without worrying about anything else.

If Framework offered hot swappable batteries, even if a quick restart is required, I'd be fine with that because at least I wouldn't be stranded in that case. And I'd be happy to pay as much as a MacBook, or a bit more even, purely for ideological reasons. Apple's dominance is bad for all of us.
by flamesofphx | 2025-09-22 13:28:41+00:00
I wonder if any of them have the original source, or could even compile a list of all the "Business Rules" needed to create a new version of their software, with all the need one off. Even then the "It works" mentality might not allow the risk of missing a "One off business rule", if they don't have a copy of there original source anymore... I mean maybe there a still using copies of a compiled program, that they don't know what's fully in it.. </I-Hope_NOt>.. Imagine if the same is true for pharmacy, big chemical manufacturer, then imagine finding a decent cobol programmer now a days to help smooth the conversion.. </TooMuchImaginationHopefully></StuffOfNightmares>
by tptacek | 2025-09-22 13:28:41+00:00
Slop Hacker One reports often include videos, long explanations, and, of course, arguments. It's so prevalent that there's an entire cottage industry of "triage" contractors that filter this stuff out. You want to say that there's something distinctive about an LLM driving the slop, and that's fine; all I'm saying is that the defining experience of a Hacker One bug bounty program has always been a torrent of slop.
by ctkhn | 2025-09-22 13:29:03+00:00
It's crazy how bad most onboarding docs are for corporate teams. I think it's a great first look the culture and how much of a hassle the role will be. The last three teams I've joined have been brutal with how little was documented or how out of date the docs that did exist are. I've had to spend up to two weeks tracking people down to find out what access group I need for our logs, deploy pipeline, etc. and I end up writing up a new doc that's good for its point in time, immediately becomes out of date when someone adds a new system or access group but doesn't document it anywhere. The one team I was on previously that got me everything I needed in about two days was great, but it's sad that this isn't the norm. Everywhere else has been pretty hostile to getting set up, and the poor onboarding experience has been a preview of the developer experience. My current role is standing up a new devex team which I'm hoping turns the tide here.
by mbreese | 2025-09-22 13:29:09+00:00
As with all things, it’s all dependent upon the details. OS, Bios, chip, they all can have an impact on battery consumption while sleeping. The linked (from the post) Reddit thread has many suggestions on how to fix this, but for the author, I don’t think it was ever resolved. The author of that Reddit post was also shocked.

The reason why it works well for Apple is that they control everything. There are limited numbers of parts they have to support, so they can make sure it all works.

In the PC world, there are many… many variables, even from the same OEM. It’s a legitimately hard problem and manufacturers aren’t particularly motivated to get it to work better (particularly with Linux). In fact, at this moment, there’s another post on the front page that talks about this exact issue: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45288440 . It is about debugging an ACPI bug that has existed for years.
by lmm | 2025-09-22 13:29:13+00:00
> If that’s not illegal, perhaps the legal system needs revamping.

Advising people to commit visa fraud might well be illegal under US law, but given that it all happened in SK, would SK be interested in extraditing them? And would the US taxpayer support spending what that costs?

Knowingly hiring visa fraudsters is probably illegal, but proving intent would be difficult. And if you lower the burden of proof too far then companies will find any excuse to not hire non-white people, which probably isn't what you want.

The ESTA application emphasizes that it's personal and the conditions you have to comply with. I think that's well and good - if anything I think it would be better to scrap the H1-B system of tying people's work visas to specific jobs, that's a big part of what leads to immigration suppressing wages.
by nicklevin | 2025-09-22 13:29:48+00:00
It’s really quite disappointing to see how fast just copy/pasting AI responses has proliferated, even into things that don’t benefit the copy/pasters. I’m doing an online course currently that has absolutely no benefit outside of learning the content (i.e. the certificate or whatever you get for completing means nothing) - yet classmates are very clearly just copying/pasting in responses for the exercises. How does that benefit them? More than any slop I’ve experienced thus far, this instance has made me the most worried/sad/pessimistic to see. If even people who are supposedly motivated to learn (why else would you pay for this course?) just revert to the easiest AI slop path, what hope do we have for avoiding it in stuff that more resembles “work”?
by gwbas1c | 2025-09-22 13:29:59+00:00
I looked at the sample:

> This contract was created using ohjelmistofriikit.fi contract template.

Very good. Consider having some kind of version information, such as a date (more human readable) git commit id (unambiguous), or just 1.0.0.

Assuming your contract becomes popular, it's easy to just see that "oh, this is the ohjelmistofriikit contract version 2" instead of reading every word.
by aurareturn | 2025-09-22 13:30:36+00:00
You can buy an M4 Air for $799 on sale frequently.[0] Meanwhile, a similar spec'ed Framework with a slower AMD CPU/GPU is $1,517.00.[1] So the repairability angle just doesn't seem worth it. If the Air breaks, just buy a new one.

Keep in mind that the M4 Air has a better display, significantly faster CPU, faster GPU, significantly more battery life, is fanless, better speakers, much better trackpad, and a thinner profile.

[0]https://www.macrumors.com/2025/08/27/200-off-every-m4-macboo...

[1]https://frame.work/products/laptop13-diy-amd-ai300/configura...
by ThinkBeat | 2025-09-22 13:30:46+00:00
It seems well documented that the Tesla system is at level 2. and it requires "hands on supervision".

Has Elon lied about the capabilities? Yes, on many occasions.

Crashing your car to prove it seems lilke a waste. When the documentation is clear.

""" Tesla Autopilot is an advanced driver-assistance system (ADAS) developed by Tesla, Inc. that provides partial vehicle automation, corresponding to Level 2 automation as defined by SAE International """ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot

"""

Drive Autonomously: No manufacturer has achieved Level 4 or Level 5 autonomy for road use. Tesla has not achieved Level 3 conditional autonomy like Mercedes-Benz’s DrivePilot system. A Tesla cannot drive itself. The driver must remain attentive at all times. Tesla now qualifies Autopilot and Full Self-Driving with a (Supervised) parenthetical on its website. Tesla’s Level 2 system is a hands-on system that requires the driver to regain control immediately. Torque sensors confirm the driver’s hands are on the wheel or yoke. Level 2 Driving on City Streets: Tesla does list Autosteer on City Streets as a feature of Full-Self Driving. But notably, its website provides no further """ https://insideevs.com/news/742295/tesla-autopilot-abilities-...

""" In a statement addressing the US recall, Tesla declared its technology is a ‘Level Two’ semi-autonomous driving system – not the more advanced ‘Level Three’ system which is already being developed and rolled out by rival car-makers. """ https://www.drive.com.au/news/tesla-full-self-driving-level-...
by John2022 | 2025-09-22 13:30:54+00:00
I think there's a good idea in there, but it's likely to confuse as is. It seems unhelpful at best to have the task to be to determine a function involving only x and y, but then you to have to click on t, and somehow that implicitly changes x and y values.

They should, in my view, have had y as a function of t, and dropped x. Or another solution that doesn't create confusion.

I also think it's weird that changing the equation changes the shape of the mountain, but the text is about changing the path of the sled.
by jjice | 2025-09-22 13:31:15+00:00
My personal machine is a Framework 13 AMD (first gen of AMD for them) and my work machine is a MB Pro M4. The Mac Book just keeps battery _forever_ while suspended, where as I've found the Framework (running Ubuntu 24) loses about 1% an hour while suspended. 1% per hour is acceptable for me, but the Mac Book's power to performance ration is just insane.

I can't blame Framework, of course. Upstart laptop manufacturer that is open about repair vs tech giant who's spent years optimizing hardware and batteries.

All that said, I'm optimistic for better batteries, better suspend software/hardware support, and more efficient mobile processors outside of the Apple ecosystem in the coming years. The M-series Apple processors are definitely kicking others in the industry into gear.
by bluGill | 2025-09-22 13:31:35+00:00
I disagree. The US should focus on those routes that there is ample reason to believe there would be high demand for true high speed rail (280km/h average speed including stops). DC to Boston Via NYC for example: there is every reason to believe this could pay for itself running 8 trains per hour all day. Once we have that there are lots of other cities that can be connected and as the network grows the whole becomes more useful. East of the Mississippi the US is about as densely populated as Europe.

If you already have a route in place using that is cheaper, but often you are stuck with decisions that made sense in 1850 when trains didn't go very fast. Where you are building new track is should always be build to 350km/h standards (you run at 300km/h, but build to a higher standard just in case you need to run fast to make up time at the cost of efficiency). There are many towns with populations of 50,000 or so people that you wouldn't build new track too, but if there is existing track running slower trains make sense.
by baobabKoodaa | 2025-09-22 13:31:42+00:00
Hmmh. We have to also keep in mind that there are various customization options in the form. So even though someone might see "oh, this is ohjelmistofriikit contract", they should read through, because the customization options change the contents of the contract significantly. We can't solve this by adding git commit info or similar versioning.
by gorjusborg | 2025-09-22 13:31:49+00:00
> Battery life is the result of getting details right at every level of the software stack

Exactly. Apple's way of doing things is about vertical integration of the stack, which is the polar opposite of how the PC market developed and largely still works.

The vertical integration approach (where you control all the layers beneath the customer facing product) has the benefit of allowing you to optimize that customer experience by tweaking things anywhere in the stack.

Power management in digital systems mostly comes down to being able to slow or turn off clocks when appropriate. Doing this well can be complicated, but you can tell that Apple has put a lot of energy into doing it.

The downside of the vertical integration approach is that components cannot be sourced or replaced with off-the-shelf components, as the interfaces are not really standard, they are tailor made for the use case.

For the Framework folks to pull off something like the M1's power sipping, they'd have to invest a lot of engineering time (a.k.a. money) and have strategic partnerships with hardware vendors and standards bodies to move the commodity chip market forward to support better power management.

The thing is, one of the strengths of the Framework is that the hardware is commodity, making their devices easy to repair. Also, any work that the Framework folks do to move things forward also benefit their competitors, which can shrink the potential reward for doing so.
by al_borland | 2025-09-22 13:31:52+00:00
I wasn’t mentioning fiber internet as a reason people couldn’t afford a house. I mentioned it as a recent example I personally ran into, where keeping up with the Joneses was explicitly given to me as a selling point, and I found it ridiculous. If people are worried about this on something as trivial as internet speed, it’s going to carry through to where they live, the car they drive, the clothes they wear, etc.
by tedggh | 2025-09-22 13:32:03+00:00
With millions of Teslas on the road one would think if that was true we would have heard something by now. My absolute worst car quality wise ever was a Honda Accord. And I owned shitty cars including a Fiat. My most reliable car was a Honda Civic before I “upgraded” to a brand new Accord. I abuse my Tesla and so far no issues driving in one of the worst roads in the country. I must hit 100 potholes per month and blew a tire already. It’s not a fun car to drive like a GTI (which I own as well) but it’s definitely a solid car.
by henrebotha | 2025-09-22 13:32:14+00:00
Genuinely, I am trying to improve things. Making documentation more readable has a real cascading positive effect. Of course, most of these PRs are tiny — just a word or two — but that means it takes me almost no time to submit them, so the ROI is still positive.

One of the most enraging things to me is when a text search of documentation fails because the word I'm searching for has been misspelled in a key place. That's one of the things I'm trying to solve for.

I'm also just a stickler for good style. It bums me out when people misuse heading levels. Heading level is not a font size markup!

Of course doing this does generate activity on my GH, but I think all of us have probably moved on from caring much about the optics of little green squares.

Also like someone else said, it's just fun. I like typing and making Git do a thing and using my nice keyboard.
by moron4hire | 2025-09-22 13:32:21+00:00
In the 15 years I've known her, my wife has needed to repair each of her 3 MacBooks at least once (One of them twice).

In the same time, I've had to repair one Gigabyte laptop. The second Gigabyte that needed repair, I trashed and just stopped buying Gigabyte.

That's the problem with Apple. They're build quality isn't that great, but you don't have an alternative.
by RandomBacon | 2025-09-22 13:32:37+00:00
I didn't upvote because I think it's not a good laptop bag, but I'm sticking around for the comments for the discussion. Sometimes I'll upvote a post just because the discussion is good, but not in this case.

I'm upvoting some of the comments though, and I'm guessing the algorithm takes that into account when determining it's position on the frontpage :-/