MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by SnooBananas6657 | 2025-09-05 22:12:30+00:00
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For example, we just merged https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickHouse/pull/80848, which will help a lot with performance in the near future.
by privatelypublic | 2025-09-05 22:12:30+00:00
It doesn't matter if they end up in chapter 11... If it kneecaps all the other copyright lawsuits. I won't pretend to know the exact legal details. But I am (unfortunately) old enough that this isn't my first "giant corporation benefits from legally and ethically dubious copyright adjacent activities, gets sued, settles/wins." (Cough, google books)
by Imustaskforhelp | 2025-09-05 22:12:43+00:00
Yes the voices echo all around the globe of what's happening in the US. Surprisingly the only place it isn't heard is in some places of US.

But I still feel like some points raised by the gp might be right. And I was laughing a little thinking that someone critizing the EU already makes you consider them as an american.

Like its just funny.

Also, I feel like every country has problems but countries should honestly first and foremost try to stay away from corruption and the billionaires/rich people's influence in general and try to be impartial. I do think that EU might be good in that but still, I sometimes wonder if this all might be a facade in the sense that EU wants to work and they want to show something for it and so that's why they are fining google only almost 3 billion$. Like maybe my trust in political systems is a little too faded seeing US instititutions erode in days (speaking as non american but I really admired american politics, not anymore)
by ninkendo | 2025-09-05 22:13:10+00:00
Y’know the script approach sounds like a good idea.

I also have an OpenBSD box similar to what you describe, but I run ISC dhcpd and BIND because it’s the only setup that does old-school dynamic DNS where the dhcp server sends zone updates to BIND when a lease happens.

But I hate BIND, and not to mention this setup doesn’t work with DHCPv6 (no idea why, it should in principal…) maybe I should just do the “script to read the leases and generate the zone file” approach instead.
by neilv | 2025-09-05 22:13:18+00:00
If this is an economist idea of fair, where is the market?

If someone breaks into my house and steals my valuables, without my consent, then giving me stock in their burglary business isn't much of a deterrent to them and other burglars.

Deterrence/prevention is my real goal, not the possibly of a token settlement from whatever bastard rips me off.

We need the analogue of laws and police, or the analogue of homeowner has a shotgun.
by jarjoura | 2025-09-05 22:13:22+00:00
I'm excited for the moment where these models are able to treat using copyrighted work in a fair-use way that pays out to authors the way Spotify does when you listen to a song. Why? Because authors recieving royalties for their works when they get used in some prompt would likely encourage them to become far more accepting towards LLMs.

Also passing on the cost to consumers of generated content since companies now would need to pay royalties on the back-end should also likely increase the cost of generating slop and hopefully push back against that trend.

This shouldn't just be books, but all written content, like scholarly journals and essays, news articles and blogs, etc.

I realize this is just wishful thinking, but there's got to be some nugget of aspirational desire to pay it forward.
by esalman | 2025-09-05 22:14:17+00:00
That's a depressing take.

First off, you're not too busy to find it. Because you're probably not used to doing it. All you have to do is to tell your favorite map app where you want to go, then switch to the public transit tab. You should try it.

Right now if I look at routes from Newark to OAK or SFO, it shows around 40 minutes by car and 1:40 hour by public transportation. If I had a plane to catch in 2 hours, I'd never take the bus. Here's why.

About 40 minutes of that 1:40 involves walking to the nearest bus stop. You could take an Uber instead and cut it down to 10 minutes. But that's problem A, public transportation doesn't have enough coverage.

There are 2 bus changes involved. The first one, Newark to Union City or Palo Alto, depending on whether you're going to OAK or SFO, runs every 30 minutes. That's problem B, the routes are not frequent enough.

The last bus change, very close to OAK/SFO, are design flaw- problem C. You really should be able to get off BART and take a short walk or shuttle to terminal. Instead, it's another bus ride that'll take 40 minutes.

From a regular commuter's pov, problems A/B/C are the issues that'll discourage someone from taking public transportation. Like other comments mentioned, it's not really a resource, infra or tech issue. It's a social/political issue that's preventing public transportation from expanding, both in coverage, frequency and in terms of connecting big population centers where it matters. All the issues that you mentioned, like stopping million times, guarantee of arriving on time, bicycles, and even safety and cleanliness, will go away if you solve the problems I mentioned- speaking from my experience taking public transportation for 30+ years in the US and abroad.
by kelnos | 2025-09-05 22:14:49+00:00
The problem is that you have to go all-in on transit to make people want to ride it. You need to have frequent, reliable service, clean trains/buses, and feelings of safety. You also need the infrastructure to be designed well: build subways rather than surface-level trains. If you can't build subways, elevate the trains, or at least do your best to grade-separate, and give priority to those trains at traffic signals. Buses should have dedicated lanes.

Transit in the bay area fails at pretty much all of those things. Service is just infrequent enough to make things difficult, and unreliable enough that you worry that a late or missing bus or train will make you late. Cleanliness is inconsistent, and there are often people on drugs riding around all day, spouting nonsense. We do have some subways, but not enough of them, and there is no light rail line in SF that runs only underground, so they can only be a maximum of two cars long (otherwise they'd be too long for a single city block in some areas). All of the above-ground light rail is at mercy of car traffic (with tracks in some areas actually running in the same lanes as cars), stop signs, and traffic lights (which do not prioritize the trains). We do have some dedicated bus lanes, but they're dedicated bus+taxi lanes, and Ubers/Lyfts and regular passenger cars abuse them with little risk of being ticketed.

The end result of this is that people see that it takes 10 minutes to drive and 40 minutes to take public transit, but that they really need to add on an extra 15 minutes to the transit trip to account for delays and unreliability. So even though they don't want to to deal with parking, or pay 5-10x as much for an Uber/Lyft fare, they value their transit time more, and drive or get a car ride from an app.

Earlier this year, SF Muni was experiencing a large budget shortfall. They managed to save many jobs from being cut, which is commendable, but instead they reduced service. This just causes more people to look at the situation and choose to find an alternative that will get them where they're going faster, and more reliably.
by Animats | 2025-09-05 22:15:41+00:00
What he's arguing for is correctness by construction. This is an old idea.[1][2] It was used for the Apollo program, but never seemed to get much traction. The idea is to have small, reliable software components with well-defined interfaces, which are then plugged together. This maps well to certain types of control problems, especially those which can be expressed as classical analog control diagrams with signals flowing around.

[1] https://www.computer.org/csdl/journal/ts/1976/01/01702333/13...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(software_en...
by seabass-labrax | 2025-09-05 22:17:06+00:00
I'm no sociologist, but a pet theory of mine is that lots of people have realized that one doesn't necessarily need to listen to others in order to achieve one's goals. For instance, in the past you could write a letter of complaint to a company and have a reasonable chance of getting a personal response, but it can be difficult to even find any contact information now, and any response is likely to come from a script. Companies know they can ignore complaints and pretty much carry on as before. I don't suppose one always liked the personal response but it surely feels better to be listened to.

People who want to discuss things in good faith (which presumably includes you and I) and achieve consensus get bogged down in long and complicated discussions while those who have selfish motivations just do whatever they want largely without any cost. The overlap between people who are 'well-meaning' and 'successful' shrinks, leaving the well-meaning people angry and bitter - not generally at each other, but still sometimes unfortunately.
by dmbche | 2025-09-05 22:17:33+00:00
I was gonna try and answer you, but I had the thought that you this could very well be a honeypotting bot trying to find untainted human-human exchanges, because scrapping and training on bot comments would be unproductive...

I dislike that that's my reasoning.

I would look for local( like in your state/city instead of global) or small userbases (so it's unlikely most are bots).
Show HN: Desk clock with rotating Earth showing real-time day/night cycles
by lludo | 2025-09-05 22:17:35+00:00
Hey HN! I'm an engineer who's always been interested in watches/clocks, so I recently started building in public. I'm creating desk clocks inspired by traditional aesthetics but with modern precision tech.

Currently prototyping two models:

- Type 1 — Tri-Date: Features a geometric triangular date layout with big date on a "squircle" dial (perpetual calendar).

- Type 2 — Planétarium: Has a suspended Earth model that rotates every 24 hours on a real 23.5° tilt, showing which hemisphere is in daylight and how this changes through seasons.

Technical stack summary: - ESP32-S2 with ESP-IDF (not Arduino) - High precision stepper motors - TMC2208 controllers for silent operation - DS3231 RTC with WiFi sync - Hall sensors for precise positioning - Custom PCB design

Everything is hand-assembled in my garage workshop - from wooden cases to precision gear trains. Full vertical integration from concept to assembly (one-person operation).

Currently in prototyping phase, planning Kickstarter once technical challenges are solved. Following the journey: @atelier_ludo

Would love HN feedback!
by fluoridation | 2025-09-05 22:18:28+00:00
>They will literally dig old porno magazines out of dumpsters, procure VHS players to watch VHS porn, stay up until 4 in the morning to watch 30 second censored adult content commercials on TV.

Oh, man. You just reminded me of teenage me trying to make something out in scrambled porn on cable TV after midnight. You could kind of see the thrusting, but it was barely stimulating. Those were tough times, let me tell you.
by Lariscus | 2025-09-05 22:18:55+00:00
The price of a token doesn't necessarily reflect the true cost of running a model. After Claude Opus 4 released the price of OpenAIs o3 tokens where slashed practically over night.[0] If you think this happened because inference cost went down, I have a bridge to sell to you.

[0] https://venturebeat.com/ai/openai-announces-80-price-drop-fo...
by florbnit | 2025-09-05 22:19:25+00:00
> Buying used copies of books, scanning them, and training on it is fine.

Buying used copies of books, scanning them, and printing them and selling them: not fair use

Buying used copies of books, scanning them, and making merchandise and selling it: not fair use

The idea that training models is considered fair use just because you bought the work is naive. Fair use is not a law to leave open usage as long as it doesn’t fit a given description. It’s a law that specifically allows certain usages like criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. Training AI models for purposes other than purely academic fits into none of these.
by gerdesj | 2025-09-05 22:19:45+00:00
I've had mixed results with Chat n OpenSCAD. For my first effort it used BOSL (good skills) but hallucinated functions (bad skills)! It also failed to allow for closing the geometry properly ie adding a tiny epsilon to get unions and diffs etc to join up.

The model was really simple - a threaded "back nut" - basically a hollow thin walled cylinder with a base with a hole in it. The cylinder is threaded on the inside. Its a plumbing part for a long out of production system that still works fine but its leaking and I broke the current nut trying to tighten it. Once I dissembled the joint it turns out it does not need to be tight just stable. It only serves to hold a tube with two O rings in place inside the water inlet to the device and a standard plumbing nut and olive job on the other end of the short tube. A perfect job for 3D printing. It took me six iterations to get the thread right. At one point I miss-read my calipers sigh

I'd love to see what RAG will do for this with a well focused model. There is a lot of decent documentation for OpenSCAD and a lot of literature for this form of modelling.
by formerly_proven | 2025-09-05 22:19:46+00:00
> The EU has 450M (+80M for UK & similar non-eu countries that are likely to follow the EU on such regulations) population to the US' 350M.

Europeans are much poorer on average though, so actual revenue figures are rather the inverse of these population figures (they actually skew much more to the US than that, but anyhow).
by gpm | 2025-09-05 22:19:51+00:00
The court has to give preliminary approval to the settlement first. After that there should be a notice period during which the lawyers will attempt to reach out and tell you what you need to do to receive your money. (Not a lawyer, not legal advice).

You can follow the case here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69058235/bartz-v-anthro...

You can see the motion for settlement (what the news article is about) here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.43...
by daemonologist | 2025-09-05 22:20:21+00:00
I suspect you could acquire and scan every readily purchasable book for much less than $3k each. Scanhouse for instance charges $0.15 per page for regular unbound (disassembled) books, plus $0.25 for supervised OCR, plus another dollar if the formatting is especially complex; this comes out to maybe $200-300 for a typical book. Acquiring, shipping, and disposing of them all would of course cost more, but not thousands more.

The main cost of doing this would be the time - even if you bought up all the available scanning capacity it would probably take months. In the meantime your competition who just torrented everything would have more high-quality training data than you. There are probably also a fair number of books in libgen which are out of print and difficult to find used.
by _mlbt | 2025-09-05 22:20:26+00:00
TLDR:

> Contrary to the common narrative that women who marry and have children are unhappy, the 2025 Women’s Well-Being Survey finds that married mothers are happier than women who are unmarried and women who do not have children. Both marriage and motherhood contribute to well-being in different ways. Married women are more likely than their unmarried counterparts to report feeling deep connection and meaning in their relationships. They are also less likely to be lonely and more likely to receive physical affection—both strong predictors of happiness. Mothers are also more likely to find meaning and purpose in life.
by quickthrowman | 2025-09-05 22:20:54+00:00
It’s an interesting tale of what happens when you have enough wealth to insulate you from the insane decisions that a manic episode can generate. An ‘average’ person pursuing this sort of harassment campaign would end up institutionalized, at least temporarily. They would at least have someone tell them straight up that they need help, something this woman has probably never had to face (at least since being wealthy)

I feel bad for this woman, she’s trapped in a manic prison by having enough wealth to turn everyone into enablers. I’ve seen active mania and how it affects decision making and the perception of reality in the people suffering under it. I’d much prefer a lack of guardrails nudging me towards treatment instead of wealth enabling me to engage in a public campaign of harassment.

Sometimes a lack of consequences is more debilitating than facing the consequences of your actions, if facing those consequences can set you on a better path, something I’ve learned from personal experience with chemical addiction. I used to do a lot of drugs, and so did Zappos founder Tony Hsieh. The main difference between him and I is that I eventually ran out of money and had people attempt to talk some sense into me instead of enabling me to death, something which I am very thankful for today.
by kennywinker | 2025-09-05 22:20:57+00:00
The example is a real legal case afaik, or perhaps paraphrased from one (don’t think it was a monkey - an ape? An elephant?).

I’d guess the legal scenario for `rails generate` is that you have a license to the template code (by way of how the tool is licensed) and the template code was written by a human so licensable by them and then minimally modified by the tool.
by like_any_other | 2025-09-05 22:21:59+00:00
> Yet it is wrong for a government to deny the people to access foreign services over the Internet when they want.

And when those services push propaganda, or shadowban some politicians while boosting others [1,2]? We can all panic about foreign interference, until some other country does something about it.

[1] Facebook Says It Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the U.S. and Israeli Governments - https://theintercept.com/2017/12/30/facebook-says-it-is-dele...

[2] Polish PM calls Facebook ban on far-right party undemocratic - https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-technology-h...
by OKRainbowKid | 2025-09-05 22:22:50+00:00
The mechanism is that society/state is structured in a way to allow them to extract ever more money from regular people, with their social/financial/medical security and general govt services like education deteriorating further and further, creating more desperate, disillusioned, disenfranchised people, some of which steal copper.

Properly tax rich people (again), make politicians act in good faith again, actually care for regular people, and things will improve.
by Imustaskforhelp | 2025-09-05 22:22:54+00:00
A key focus on VC glut. I think that another idea to consider here is that the VC's just spend like billions on projects and they don't care about consequences, all they want in the end is profit and maybe growth.. And so, maybe something like airbnb gets the money and expands which effectively removes the competition, making a monopoly who might get fined or what not but still in the end, it all turned perfect for VC.

VC funding (I think) drives on monopoly creation. Maybe that's why we were seeing a huge amount of VC funding in AI because they think that they want to monopolize "intelligence" this time so its the end goal as they are trying to monopolize the means towards creation...

I really want to learn how US got VC trapped. The whole economy's system issue arises from VC. Like, AI hype started from VC spending billions which then justified the absurd AI growth in things like magnificent 7 on stock market.

We really have these billionaires pulling quite deals which secretly shape the world to a much larger extent and they don't do it because of some evil reason but a plain old reason: money.

But the fact that all they care about money makes the companies inside VC justify doing evil things because morality isn't the end goal, helping isn't the end goal. Its money and more money and even more money. Guess what? Exploitation pays the most short term and these VC's prefer short term too.

VC and corruption seems to be the worst issues that I think really influence way way more of the world secretly and thus making "democracy" as one HN user pointed out on a different thread, a "copium for the masses"
by bigmadshoe | 2025-09-05 22:23:56+00:00
Buying used copies of books, scanning them, training an employee with the scans: fair use.

Unless legislation changes, model training is pretty much analogous to that. Now of course if the employee in question - or the LLM - regurgitates a copyrighted piece verbatim, that is a violation and would be treated accordingly in either case.
by khazhoux | 2025-09-05 22:24:11+00:00
> We most certainly can't say on average that adding a single line of code adds 0.01 units of value for

Certainly there’s no simple F(num_lines_changed) value function. There are many other parameters. But to suggest, as many here somehow do, that lines of code touched is independent to effective development, is plain ludicrous.
by bigbadfeline | 2025-09-05 22:24:15+00:00
> how much control does someone typically have over a surrogate during the pregnancy?

The original article makes it clear: The product is fully controlled all the way to "The Island" [1]

And that is achieved not by direct legislation but by the lack of it. That lack is filled by contract law and an expensive, convoluted legal system which puts the surrogates in a precariously vulnerable position.

>> tuckerman: Very little [control], ultimately the healthcare the surrogate is receiving is _her_ healthcare.

That means, if something goes wrong the surrogates are stuck with med bills too, in addition to the legal ones.

[1] "The Island" 2005, recommended viewing, the movie might be available on big tube.
by Xenoamorphous | 2025-09-05 22:24:20+00:00
> And I was laughing a little thinking that someone critizing the EU already makes you consider them as an american.

Look at the comments in this post. The always pro-privacy, anti-ads HN suddenly moaning about this fine. Now that’s super funny and worth of a good laugh. Of course it’s an America vs EU thing, patriotism trumps (no pun intended) all else.
by Ekaros | 2025-09-05 22:24:38+00:00
Because ones doing the training are profiting from it. Ai is not a human with limited time. And it is also owned by a company not a legal person.

I might find argument of comparing it to human when it is fully legal person and cutting power to it or deleting is treated as murder. Before that it is just bullshit.

And fundamentally reason for copy right to exist is to support creators and to promote them to create more. In world where massively funded companies can freely exploit their work and even in many case fully substitute that principle is failed.
by gucci-on-fleek | 2025-09-05 22:24:46+00:00
Well all the downstream distros have their own installers (apt, dnf, pacman, etc.). If you're compiling from source, then "make install" [0] should work as expected, and if you're downloading the pre-built binaries from GitHub [1], you just need to copy a single statically-linked binary into "/usr/local/bin".

[0]: https://github.com/containers/podman/blob/c8183c50/Makefile#...

[1]: https://github.com/containers/podman/releases