MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by neutrinobro | 2025-09-02 19:26:22+00:00
I have a old system with 3 ancient Tesla K40s which can easily run inference on ~30B parameter models (e.g. qwen3-coder:30b). I mostly use it as a compute box for other workloads, but its not completely incapable for some AI assisted coding. It is power hungry though, and the recent spike in local electricity rates is enough of an excuse to keep it off most of the time.
by ACCount37 | 2025-09-02 19:26:24+00:00
The biggest issue is that LLMs can act like a person indeed. And the kind of person an LLM acts as? Well.

When you train on raw user feedback, you can easily end up wiring some incredibly undesirable patterns into your AI. Resulting in things like an AI that never wants to contradict its user, and always wants to support its user in everything, and always wants the user to like it. See GPT-4o for the kind of outcomes that results in.
by pasc1878 | 2025-09-02 19:26:32+00:00
That might actually be a benefit as most public code say in C++ is not good code.

If the pool is smaller but from say experienced programmers then the number of errors might be less. I can see that for Ada however most Haskell is probably written by undergraduates just learning it so not a quality code base.

I think Apple researchers published a recent papaer where they had a LLM giving good Swidt code but the original corpus only included one Swift program but the AI model was tuned by experienced Swift programmers to get into a good stae for general use.
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by akomtu | 2025-09-02 19:27:01+00:00
It looks like what AI is doing to our society is it's substituting our moral compass to lead us off the cliff. A good deal of people today no longer know what's right and what's wrong, so they turn to an authority for advice. Turns out this authority is a chatbot who knows a lot, but has no moral compass whatsoever. Imagine someone goes to a pastor to resolve his moral dilemma, but the pastor behind the curtain happens to be a chatbot who only fakes morality. But that's what's happening now. The more people talk to this digital abomination, the more they will get derailed.
by mionhe | 2025-09-02 19:27:18+00:00
>[...]about one school shooting or mass shooting every two days proves that at least one member of the species isn't uniformly ready to have firearms.

I often see comments online descending into the argument about firearms. Besides the potential number of people hurt/killed, what's the difference between someone walking into a school with a gun versus one walking into a school with a knife? Or a sharpened spear (from other comments in the thread)?

In many ways, I think a knife could be worse. You can hurt/kill a lot of people very quietly with a knife, leaving most of the school none the wiser. They're easier to conceal, easier to make from non-metallic substances (and thus can be easier to sneak past metal detectors.) I imagine people would be a lot less concerned about a knife collection than a gun collection, etc etc.

I don't disagree with your comment about someone not being ready for a firearm. However, I think that the argument that we're not recognizing the dangers of "gun free" zones as potential targets (by at least one statistic, 94% of mass shootings in the US happen in a "gun free" zone) and mitigating that danger in a meaningful way actually supports your point about syncophantic AIs better.
by idle_zealot | 2025-09-02 19:27:25+00:00
Eh, we fund a lot of research through grants. It may not have been 2022, but a society without as strong of a profit motive would have discovered transformer models and LLMs eventually. They probably wouldn't have scaled up datacenter production and tried to shove a chatbox into every digital interface though.

> and even if it is only published, do you think we wouldn't run chatbots ourselves at home with same results

Yes, my point is exactly that I don't think the results would be the same if people were running it themselves at home, without the marketing machine running full bore to convince the world that these impressive toys are machine oracles. You'd end up with a handful of crazies, that's unavoidable, but it wouldn't be a civilizational threat.
by Modified3019 | 2025-09-02 19:27:36+00:00
Years ago, someone on r/datahoarder made a toy website that showed a “waterfall” of the newest images being posted to Imgur.

Initial comments of “oh neat!” quickly turned into “oh no!” and the toy site didn’t last long as it was. I think Imgur had some kind of detection (possibly automatic+manual) of illegal material going on, but it (the manual side of it?) would occur some time after posting.
by breppp | 2025-09-02 19:27:41+00:00
My thoughts are that when Hamas kidnapped 200 Israeli citizens including babies and massacred a 1000 more, which included mass rapes, beheading and burnings, there was no choice left to Israel but to remove that organization completely.

Because Hamas as the governing political party in Gaza, decided to use all of their resources to build fortifications below civilian neighborhoods, this endeavour entails the destruction of entire Gazan neighborhoods. Not unlike the Battle of Berlin or the bombings of Dresden.

It's cliche to say war is terrible, but it is, that's why you don't start one, and that's why Israel always tried to do quick operations which amounted to nothing ('mowing the lawn' as you incorrectly quoted out of context). An advice Gazans have surely needed.

If you finally do start a war, you should really start a war you have a chance at winning. If even that isn't true, at the very least you don't go on such a barbaric rampage making your enemy extremely determined at removing your force completely, at great expense at your civilian population which elected you

Regarding starvation in Gaza, due to racism, media rage bating and general long cultural tradition in the west to scape goat a certain ethnicity, the perception is far different than reality. For example, a recent Gazan instagram account:

https://www.instagram.com/moh_z_co
by the_af | 2025-09-02 19:28:00+00:00
I think you misunderstood.

What we're discussing is whether a set of heuristics to determine whether something is the output of a human or an LLM are "stupid", not whether we should put LLMs in charge of critical work. It's not the LLMs we're talking about, but the heuristics to detect them.

The person you initially replied to claimed the heuristics (to detect LLMs) are not stupid if they are shown to work (by detecting LLMs). The person they were replying to claimed such heuristics were useless.
by SilverElfin | 2025-09-02 19:28:03+00:00
> Pre-Musk Twitter quite vigorously fought Turkish demands for censorship. Not every time, but many times.

I don’t think this is an accurate read. From the outside you don’t really know what they fought or didn’t fight, and why. It is possible Twitter/X chose not to fight certain situations based on prior experience or precedent. But in other cases, post-Musk, they have fought government censorship. For example they continued fighting the government of India even a year after Musk acquired Twitter/X. And they also had a showdown with Brazil’s government, where it was pretty blatantly violating Brazil’s own constitution.
by switz | 2025-09-02 19:28:12+00:00
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by thaumaturgy | 2025-09-02 19:28:53+00:00
The Cathedral and the Bazaar meets The Tragedy of the Commons.

Let's say there's two competing options in some market. One option is fully commercialized, the other option holds to open-source ideals (whatever those are).

The commercial option attracts investors, because investors like money. The money attracts engineers, because at some point "hacker" came to mean "comfortable lifestyle in a high COL area". The commercial option gets all the resources, it gets a marketing team, and it captures 75% of the market because most people will happily pay a few dollars for something they don't have to understand.

The open source option attracts a few enthusiasts (maybe; or, often, just one), who labor at it in whatever spare time they can scrape together. Because it's free, other commercial entities use and rely on the open source thing, as long it continues to be maintained in something that, if you squint, resembles slave labor. The open source option is always a bit harder to use, with fewer features, but it appeals to the 25% of the market that cares about things like privacy or ownership or self-determination.

So, one conclusion is "people want Cathedrals", but another conclusion could be that all of our society's incentives are aligned towards Cathedrals.

It would be insane, after all, to not pursue wealth just because of some personal ideals.
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by desolate_muffin | 2025-09-02 19:29:11+00:00
I think also it's the reality in most engineering roles that you will often have to pivot to new technologies, help out on unfamiliar projects using different technologies (e.g., work on the front-end for a bit when you're a backend engineer), etc. Some engineers aren't comfortable with this and it shows. This is how I understood the original comment, anyway.
by SilverElfin | 2025-09-02 19:29:33+00:00
“Elon” is not fighting something. He is implementing a policy. In countries where the law protects free speech, Twitter/X fights illegal orders that try to coerce them into censorship. That happens to be freer societies. But authoritarian ones that have very clear laws enabling censorship, they follow the local law. That’s not genuflecting but just sticking to a principled approach that avoids them being outright banned in those countries.
by mallowdram | 2025-09-02 19:29:54+00:00
All AI does is arbitrarily speed up indirectness in arbitrary signals by predicting a next word. Course-correcting the arbitrary never reaches directness or specifics. This is the expected outcome of metaphors (words) pretending to have meaning without context. It's abysmal how this came to market.

The overall lack of depth in CS academic programs and research is on full display here. Anyone in Systemic Functional Linguistics can diagnose this as the embedded social dark matter of language: domination, control, status stuck inside the models like a bizarre daemon.

Ultimately language is irrelevant, it has to be replaced. That is the only function AI generally reveals.
by DmitryDolgopolo | 2025-09-02 19:30:09+00:00
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by MarkusWandel | 2025-09-02 19:30:30+00:00
Many years ago, I was on a training course, all typical engineers, and the guy who had organized it, a foodie, had ordered the day's spread from a very expensive and fancy catering place. Skeptical engineers eyeing the spread, which included such things as "cold orange soup"; one of them said "I should have brought my rabbit".

The message was clearly received. Next day and subsequent ones, an equally high quality spread of actual engineer food was tabled. But with no rabbit to eat it up, I think a lot of the first day's spread was wasted.

This was during the pre-2K tech boom years (this dates me!) Really fancy catering at (my) work is a distant memory now.
by thewebguyd | 2025-09-02 19:30:48+00:00
> I know that no one wants to hear this, but ChatGPT should probably be listening for people in crisis and, well, maybe not calling the cops, but maybe if there is a crisis line in their jurisdiction? A suicide hotline or something?

Doesn't necessarily even need to call (particular in case of false positives) but there absolutely should be detection and a cutoff switch, where the chatbots just refuse to continue the conversation and then print out the hotline numbers (much like with reddit cares messages).

I'm generally not in favor of censorship or overly protective safeguards on LLMs, but maybe it's needed for hosted models/services that are available to the masses.

But before they get locked down more, we should try some legislation to limit how they can be marketed and sold. Stop letting OpenAI, etc. call the models "intelligent" for one. Make the disclaimers larger, not just small print in the chat window but an obvious modal that requires user agreement to dismiss - disclaim that it's a predictive engine, it is not intelligent, it WILL make mistakes, do not trust its output. Make it clear during the chat session over and over again, and then have a killswitch for certain paths.
by marcosdumay | 2025-09-02 19:30:52+00:00
The government creates money every time it spends more than it taxes. AFAIK, the US has been doing that nonstop since the turn of the century.

That new money is different from the new money the central bank creates to push interest rates down. That later one the US has been destroying. But both do many of the same things (but not all).
by arabello | 2025-09-02 19:31:28+00:00
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by idle_zealot | 2025-09-02 19:32:04+00:00
I tend to shy away from that sort of rhetoric on HN. Saying that the problem is capitalism and we need socialism or whatever gets you downvoted to hell. Making the underlying arguments that lead to that conclusion gets you upvotes, exposing more people to those ideas.

People, even smart people, especially in the US, hear socialism or communism and immediately think of the USSR or Maoist China. The terms are very unpopular. The ideas are the important part though, and they're pretty popular.
by JCM9 | 2025-09-02 19:32:07+00:00
A few things, including:

1. Price-performance has struggled to stay competitive. There’s some supply-demand forces at play, but the top companies consistently seem to strike better deals elsewhere.

2. The way AWS is architected, especially on networking, isn’t ideal for AI. They’ve dug their heels on in their own networking protocols despite struggling to compete on performance. I personally know of several workloads that left AWS because they couldn’t compete on networking performance.

3. Struggling on the managed side. On paper a service like Bedrock should be great but in practice it’s been a hot mess. I’d love to use Anthropic via Bedrock, but it’s just much more reliable when going direct. AWS has never been great at these sort of managed services at scale and they’re again struggling here.
by andrewla | 2025-09-02 19:32:36+00:00
Maybe I was making unwarranted assumptions about the nature of your way to learn linear algebra. The approaches that I've seen invariably have to produce a sample matrix, and rotation is really the best example. The rotation matrix is going to have sines and cosines, and understanding what that means is not trivial; and even now if you asked me to write a rotation matrix I would have to work it out from scratch. Easy enough to do mechanically but I have no intuitions here even now.
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by lurking_swe | 2025-09-02 19:32:44+00:00
that’s a good point, privacy is important.

To play devils advocate for a second, what if someone that’s mentally ill uses a local LLM for therapy and doesn’t get the help they need? Even if it’s against their will? And they commit suicide or kill someone because the LLM said it’s the right thing to do…

Is being dead better, or is having complete privacy better? Or does it depend?

I use local LLMs too, but it’s disingenuous to act like they solve the _real_ problem here. Mentally ill people trying to use an LLM for therapy. It can end catastrophically.
by contingencies | 2025-09-02 19:32:47+00:00
Quote: iNaturalist makes a subset of its machine learning models publicly available while keeping full species classification models private due to intellectual property considerations and organizational policy.

Shame! IMHO open data input should yield open data output. The community contribute far too much time, data, expertise and money to tolerate this kind of BS, which opens questions about fundamental compatibility with science.

iNaturalist should remove non-open data and commit to fully open output within a fixed period of time to maintain community support.
by ethbr1 | 2025-09-02 19:33:08+00:00
My guess would be that it parallels other backend software revolutions.

Initially, first party proprietary solutions are in front.

Then, as the second-party ecosystem matures, they build on highest-performance proprietary solutions.

Then, as second parties monetize, they begin switching to OSS/commodity solutions to lower COGS. And with wider use, these begin to outcompete proprietary solutions on ergonomics and stability (even if not absolute performance).

While Anthropic and OpenAi are incinerating money, why not build on their platforms? As soon as they stop, scales tilt towards an apache/nginx type commoditized backend.
by ChrisMarshallNY | 2025-09-02 19:33:29+00:00
That's actually not a bad idea, but there's likely to be ramifications that would kill it.

One issue, is that these types of tools can also be abused. If you remember, the Soviet Union was notorious for getting dissidents committed, and the NSA|CIA also likes to brand leakers as "mentally unstable." It's a common foil. It would probably be fairly easy to "poison the context" like this, for any one of us. Could be a great way to go after folks we don't like.

Mental health treatment is a very complex (and fairly primitive) field.

Who's more mentally unfit? The person who's afraid that everyone is out to get them, or the person who thinks others should be locked permanently into a hellhole, on the off chance they could inconvenience them?

I'll lay odds that a bunch of folks on this very forum, are ones that would, at one time, have spent their lives in said hellhole. I'm one.
by aspenmayer | 2025-09-02 19:33:30+00:00
I’m reminded of the punishment that Kevin Mitnick received, which included a ban on using any computing device more advanced than a landline phone. I understand that he was agreed to this, but one cannot agree to sell themselves into slavery[0], and yet these supervised release conditions are considered legal and acceptable to most folks not subject to them. Plea deals are a pox on society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick#Arrest,_convicti...

> Mitnick was released from prison on January 21, 2000. During his supervised release period, which ended on January 21, 2003, he was initially forbidden to use any communications technology other than a landline telephone.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_agreement
by Pfhortune | 2025-09-02 19:33:37+00:00
I love the idea of this. Not so much for myself; I want a system with tons of games that I can play at my leisure. But for a child or someone less savvy who wants to break free of the modern miasma of gaming towards something simpler, this would be awesome. No BS, no license checks, no choosing a Proton runtime. Just plug in a game, turn on the system, and go.

Really interested to see where this goes and wish the team the absolute best!
by on_the_train | 2025-09-02 19:33:43+00:00
> There are plenty of linters and tools to detect issues like this (ex: clang-tidy can scan for unnecessary value params)

Exactly, this is not an issue in any reasonable setup because static analysis catches (and fixes!) this reliably.

> but evidently these issues go unnoticed until a customer complains about it or someone actually bothers to profile the code.

No
by griffzhowl | 2025-09-02 19:34:06+00:00
Yes, the misconception is to think Godel's theorem shows that there are true but unprovable statements.

In fact, what it means for a mathematical statement to be true is that it's provable. Godel showed that the concept of provability is much more subtle than following from a single axiom system, but it doesn't show that there's some kind of transcendent form of mathematical truth that doesn't depend on proof, in my view.