MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by creer | 2025-09-03 23:48:22+00:00
> Many engineers want to deliver good products

Yes and that's a great start.

> they will pick the users almost every time

Empire building is very common (and other nuisances). SOME engineers will pick the users, yes. Thankfully. But many others do not care one bit about the users. Empire building is certainly not about caring about the users. Are empire builders still hireable? Unfortunately they seem to do great at interviews.
by SchemaLoad | 2025-09-03 23:48:44+00:00
I'm not the one building out datacenters but I believe the power consumption is the reason for the devaluation. It's the same reasons we saw bitcoin miners throw all their ASICs in the bin every 6 months. At some point it becomes cheaper to buy new hardware than to keep running the old inefficient chips, when the power savings of new chips exceed the purchase price of the new hardware.

These AI data centers are chewing up unimaginable amounts of power, so if nvidia releases a new chip that does the same work in half the power consumption. That whole datacenter of GPUs is massively devalued.

The whole AI industry is looking like there won't be a first movers advantage, and if anything there will be a late mover advantage when you can buy the better chips and skip burning money on the old generations.
by cardiffspaceman | 2025-09-03 23:49:03+00:00
I don’t think TECO is inherently bad for this size of file. What might be tough is, if anything were compute-bound, and the processor were loaded down with other jobs, you could have the usual timeshare-related problems. If you wanted to look at a chunk of text, it would be a problem to send it to your TTY.

If you were using a KA10 variant, your process could get evicted pretty easily because the core memory requirements of all the running jobs had to be less than 256K words. The variants with paging would have a more efficient method for virtual memory.

Compile times would be affected by the same issues.
by conception | 2025-09-03 23:49:56+00:00
Of course it does. If you abuse your children, the state enforces the rights of your children. If you put their life in danger, the state can and should take them from you. Parents do not own their children any more than the state does and their rights should be protected by both parties.

The CPS issue is because of litigation not protection. No one wants to be responsible for something bad happening.
by cebert | 2025-09-03 23:50:58+00:00
I know it’s not for everyone, but having two children brings a great deal of joy to my life. My kids help give my life balance, perspective, and meaning. It’s frightening how quickly they grow up too. While I also get a great deal of satisfaction at work, I know that I can be easily replaced or let go. Spending time with my kids and watching them grow is the most rewarding aspect of my life.
by quantummagic | 2025-09-03 23:51:07+00:00
I asked that question in an attempt to not sound too argumentative. It was rhetorical. I'm asking you to consider the fact that there isn't actually any difference between the two examples you provided. They're fundamentally the same type of knowledge. They can be represented by the same data structures.

There's _always_ something missing, left unsaid in every example, it's the nature of language.

As for your example, the LLM can be trained to know the underlying reasons (doctor's recommendation, etc.). That knowledge is not fundamentally different from the knowledge that someone tends to eat cereal for breakfast. My question to you, was an attempt to highlight that the dichotomy you were drawing, in your example, doesn't actually exist.
by elevatortrim | 2025-09-03 23:51:11+00:00
I actually built something (a time tracking tool that helps developers log their time consistently on jira and harvest) that most developers in my company use in under a week.

I have backend development background so I was able to review the BE code and fix some bugs. But I did not bother learning Jira and Harvest API specs at all, AI (cursor+sonnet 4) figured it out all.

I would not be able to write the front-end of this. It is JS based and updates the UI based on real-time http requests (forgot the name of this technology, the new ajax that is) and I do not have time to learn it but again, I was able to tweak what AI generated and make it work.

Not only AI helped me do something in much shorter than it would take, it enabled me do something that otherwise would not be possible.
by sunscream89 | 2025-09-03 23:51:18+00:00
I’ll have you lonely young men know spending your time now being talented and useful, by ten years you will attract the most available appropriate woman wherever you go. You know, be fit and stay sharp.

Being a lonesome looser is the opposite of solves this perfectly ordinary life conjunction. You can be a lady lucky successful nerd. Just be interesting and that other stuff will trip over you some day.
by kushalc | 2025-09-03 23:52:22+00:00
Hey folks, OOP/original author and 20-year HN lurker here — a friend just told me about this and thought I'd chime in.

Reading through the comments, I think there's one key point that might be getting lost: this isn't really about whether scaling is "dead" (it's not), but rather how we continue to scale for language models at the current LM frontier — 4-8h METR tasks.

Someone commented below about verifiable rewards and IMO that's exactly it: if you can find a way to produce verifiable rewards about a target world, you can essentially produce unlimited amounts of data and (likely) scale past the current bottleneck. Then the question becomes, working backwards from the set of interesting 4-8h METR tasks, what worlds can we make verifiable rewards for and how do we scalably make them? [1]

Which is to say, it's not about more data in general, it's about the specific kind of data (or architecture) we need to break a specific bottleneck. For instance, real-world data is indeed verifiable and will be amazing for robotics, etc. but that frontier is further behind: there are some cool labs building foundational robotics models, but they're maybe ~5 years behind LMs today.

[1] There's another path with better design, e.g. CLIP that improves both architecture and data, but let's leave that aside for now.
by coreyp_1 | 2025-09-03 23:52:25+00:00
I'm genuinely surprised that copyright is being used to control the use of a "scale" in science, and that the legal threat was used to take down a paper criticizing it as "no more accurate than flipping a coin".

Wouldn't science be under the umbrella of fair use, and publishing papers be under the umbrella of educational use?

It's undoubtedly a money-grab, and it reminds me of the people who extorted restaurants, etc., for singing "Happy Birthday", until the courts ruled that the song was in the Public Domain already (and had been for a very, very long time).
by anonym29 | 2025-09-03 23:52:46+00:00
Missing from the headline:

1. This is not true for the existing commercial robotaxi fleet that the public can get rides in today.

2. This is true only for the engineering sample vehicles, which do not have the robotaxi decal applied, and which the public cannot get a ride in.

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by scorpioxy | 2025-09-03 23:53:00+00:00
After noticing people I know use an LLM service, I was thinking that people are routinely sharing a lot of private information with these services that would be a goldmine for advertisers(or worse).

With search engines, if you search for something like "car" then it is difficult to know if your interest is in the mechanics of cars or stories about cars or just want to look at pictures. Without building a profile about you, it is difficult to know that you are interested in buying a car. But with LLMs, the prompt would probably look like "I want to buy a brand new car that has the following features..." which is quite a clear sign of your intentions. Perfect for context to what information to present to you but also perfect for targeted advertising.

The picture gets even darker when you realize that by sharing so much private information, it is not difficult to guess when you're in a vulnerable state and would be the easiest to manipulate to make unnecessary purchases or lead you to where ever the highest bidder wants you to go.

To me this is scary stuff but to most people I know, they don't even consider this as being a problem. So since the whole AI sector seems to be a gold rush, I have no doubt in my mind that this is where we're heading.
by Kansensus | 2025-09-03 23:53:20+00:00
Love seeing people think a step ahead and immediately spot the ripple effects… The real task is getting to hundreds of millions (ideally a billion) users, keeping everything fully transparent, and rewarding every user fairly. Once we’ve matched all the features of the incumbents, people can delete their old accounts en masse and that’s when Zuckerberg, Musk, and other clowns finally get the treatment they deserve. Really, let's fck Zuckerberg! Let's fck Big Tech! And all the greedy clowns
by advael | 2025-09-03 23:53:43+00:00
The 2022 drop for SWE is easy for me to explain, and it's not on these analysts' list of factors (though I'm not an economic quant, I don't know how you could really control for it): In 2017, a tax bill was passed that cut a particular tax incentive in 2022 in an effort to be counted as "revenue neutral" despite being otherwise a massive tax cut overall. The incentive in question was a writeoff for "Research and development". This means that in 2022, it got effectively much more expensive to hire anyone who falls under that category, including developers not directly necessary for the day-to-day function of a business (hell, one might argue they would have counted anyway) and scientists of most kinds. That this hit big firms, which have a higher relative amount of R&D efforts going at a given time, first makes a lot of sense.

For customer service, my explanation is that companies literally do not care about customer service. Automated phone trees, outsourced call centers whose reps have no real power to help a customer, and poorly-made websites have been frustrating people for decades, but businesses never seem to try to compete on doing better at it. It's a cheap win with investors who want to hear about AI initiatives to lay off yet even more of this department, because it doesn't matter if the quality of service declines, there are no market or regulatory forces that are punishing this well enough to ever expect firms to stop breaking it, let alone fix it
by bigbadfeline | 2025-09-03 23:54:07+00:00
> What the hell are you talking about?

I wasn't talking about hell but about logic, apparently our areas of expertise aren't the same.

> A world where being rich doesn't grant power over others is one where money isn't money.

You cannot claim money in general not to be money if the money for the not-rich still function as money without the rich, in other words, you falsely claim that in order for money to work as a means of exchange, it has to grant the rich power over the not-rich.

Your claim is obviously false, plus there have been closed and open societies, since antiquity to this day, which used money giving no additional powers to the rich - the simplest case - when all the power was concentrated elsewhere.

I didn't invalidate your claim, I demonstrated that it's invalid on its own.
by thrawa8387336 | 2025-09-03 23:54:33+00:00
This is a second hand anecdote but someone commented here or on X, that basically he was on a cruise and overheard two heads of HR of 2 big Co's talking to each other about shenanigans.

Would not be the craziest considering that AI has to make a ROI. Even if it's not up there yet to do so organically. If you annihilate the entry labor market, then after some time, you have no choice but to use AI because there is no one remaining with the skills. AI is lower than entry level -> No one is hiring new grads -> There is no new talent being developed -> use AI for everything!
by lowbloodsugar | 2025-09-03 23:55:12+00:00
Turns out AI can’t help script kiddies write production ready applications. Also turns out that AI is good for some things and not others, and a coin toss isn’t a good method to decide which tasks to do using AI. I read that JavaScript is by far the most popular language: still not using it for the mission critical software I write. So it doesn’t bother me that 90% of HN is “AI sucks!” stories. I find it extremely effective when used appropriately. YMMV.
by johnsmith1840 | 2025-09-03 23:55:23+00:00
Openai also invented time travel to coordinate with companies.

Nothing to do with thr mass exodus and offshoring of US jobs.

The BPO industry is GROWING the opposite of standard AI understanding ideas.

Also call center is a good one I was doing research myself and call center jobs overseas have GROWN pretty rapidly over time these jobs are moving not vanishing.
by LocalH | 2025-09-03 23:55:25+00:00
A piece of software closely matching the interface of a different piece of software doesn't automatically make the former based on the latter, except in an abstract sense (in which almost all ideas are derivative in some ways, because everything builds on the shoulders of giants). What is this, the CP/M vs MS-DOS argument again? I'm not Gates' biggest fan in terms of his ruthless business acumen, but claims of plagiarism, however slight, need a bit of hard evidence to be anything more than a smear.
by dumbledoren | 2025-09-03 23:55:47+00:00
He used 'money' for 'profits' apparently. Profitmaking is the problem. Money is just a vehicle. And you can abolish profit-making through an open-source world: Projects can get started to create infinitely repairable, durable, and modular products based on standards instead of profit-making through planned obsolescence or farcical 'new features'. These products can get used and maintained by their users for decades.
by choilive | 2025-09-03 23:56:03+00:00
I had the same thoughts, there are clearly indicators that the weakness in the labor market started happening before LLMs and AI took over popular discourse.

All the more reason to believe that while correlated, LLMs are certainly not the largest contributor, or even the cause of the job market weakness for young people. The more likely and simple explanation is that there are cracks forming in the economy not just in the US but globally; youth employment is struggling virtually everywhere. Can only speculate on the reasons, but delayed effects from questionable monetary and fiscal policy choices, increasing wealth gaps, tariffs, geopolitics, etc. have certainly not helped.
by anigbrowl | 2025-09-03 23:56:23+00:00
Donald Morisky, now a professor emeritus in community health at UCLA. As the name implies, the measure allows researchers to assess patients’ adherence to drug regimens.

Morisky made a business out of licensing the scale and demanding steep fees for researchers who failed to obtain the proper permissions, as we reported in Science in 2017. Researchers who cannot afford the payments Morisky and his business associate demand have been forced to retract their work.

What an asshole. I already think it's sketchy that instruments like the wAIS or other scales are monetized, but this scale has only 6-8 questions and the latest version was retracted after being challenged as no better than chance. Absolute garbage.

Open source scales should be table stakes for open source science.
by Kansensus | 2025-09-03 23:56:38+00:00
Not quite. MLM funnels value up to a few at the top — Kansensus does the opposite. 100% of the equity goes to users, distributed by transparent rules (referrals, join time, activity). It’s not about selling protein shakes to your cousin, it’s about making sure every user owns the platform they build. Call it what you want, but if it gets users paid and Zuckerberg f*cked, that’s practical enough. A doable, transparent way to take down Big Tech from the inside.
by MontyCarloHall | 2025-09-03 23:57:02+00:00
Gen-AI was still extremely niche in 2022; ChatGPT didn't come out until the end of the year, on 30 November, and it was pretty much just a toy curiosity until mid-2023 when GPT-4 came out. I am very surprised that leadership at your company was seriously discussing the business impact of AI that early on.
by hcnova10 | 2025-09-03 23:58:09+00:00
That’s an exaggeration. As an Asian who has interacted with Americans, I still see the US as one of the most sexualized places in the world. The emphasis on physical attractiveness is extreme, and the hook-up culture, pick-up culture and PUA industry have influenced not just America but Asia as well. What you’re describing sounds more like a pushback against abuse and manipulative forms of hooking up, which is a natural reaction in a society shaped by individualism. People are simply becoming more cautious. This will likely drive an even greater focus on physical and sexual appearance as consensual hookups continue.
by matheusmoreira | 2025-09-03 23:58:14+00:00
> He is just not insane wannabe-dictator like Bolsonaro.

He's worse.

He openly plots the installation of socialism in this country, literally said he wanted to do it on national television. He suffered zero consequences.

The communist venezuelan dictator who Trump is on the verge of nuking? He rolled out the red carpet for him and pretty much gifted him billions of our taxpayer money. No doubt he's up to his nose in Iran's nuclear business as well.

It's not enough for him to covertly rob people of their hard earned money through his corrupt champagne socialist nonsense, he actually feels the need to minimize and normalize literal armed robbery as well. He's been filmed making shoddy excuses for literal violent crime. "I'm tired of seeing people die just because they stole a phone", he says. "It's just to make a little money and buy beer at the bar".

I'd take Bolsonaro over this guy any day. At least with Bolsonaro there's a chance for my country as a whole to prosper, if not me personally. Lula being president actually makes me want to turn to crime.

Imagine what it must feel like being a normal person living in a shithole ruled by organized crime. Imagine getting married and trying to raise a family, only to wake up one day and read on the news that 26% of your country's vast territory is dominated by violent drug trafficking borderline terrorist organized crime gangs so powerful they are essentially parallel governments. At this point it's possible they've even literally infiltrated the official government as well.

All because of crime abiding politicians like Lula and his communists.
by dumbledoren | 2025-09-03 23:58:35+00:00
> British colonies universally benefited from the British empire

Yeah, the 100-200 million Indians who were killed by the East India Company through famines after being forced to raise opium instead of grain to help EIC to sell opium to kill 10-20 million Chinese every year would definitely agree...

https://yourstory.com/2014/08/bengal-famine-genocide
by FireBeyond | 2025-09-03 23:58:44+00:00
> This is not true for the existing commercial robotaxi fleet that the public can get rides in today.

The public? Must have opened things up, then, because it was only available to a select few recently (generally Tesla-positive influencers and vloggers).

The existing commercial robotaxi fleet? You mean the "10-20" vehicles in Austin? Sorry, Tesla announced that they'd increased the fleet size by 50%, so "15-30".

> This is being done in the engineering sample vehicles because they are testing performance on highways now - something Waymo and other competitors aren't even attempting to test.

You're out of date. Waymo has been testing and is able to operate on California highways for the last year and a half (https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/2/24088454/waymo-california-...).
by WorldMaker | 2025-09-03 23:59:07+00:00
I've used it a bit already. You can use it with an experimental flag in Deno. It takes a lot of inspiration (from among others) from the java.time library added in Java 8+ in a similar way that JS' original Date class is related to the very original Java Date class, so it basically catches up on 8+ versions of Java.

It supports just about all the Date math, comparison, and calendar conversion you could ever want. It has nice toLocaleString() formatting options. It's built on immutable objects to avoid a whole class of bugs with the current JS Date.
by palata | 2025-09-03 23:59:38+00:00
> A world where being rich doesn't grant power over others is one where money isn't money.

What this means is that they can't imagine a world where having an extreme amount of money does not grant you power over others. As in, if you build a world that has something called "money", but where having more money than a whole country does not give you power over others, then that thing you call "money" is so different from the one we have in our world that it would not count as money in our world at all.

> You cannot claim money in general not to be money if the money for the not-rich still function as money

That is not what they claim, you misunderstand the sentence. It's like if someone said "A implies B" and you answered with "no, because B does not imply A". You would be lacking basic logic skills there.

> you claim that in order for money to work as a means of exchange, it has to grant the rich power over the not-rich.

Nope, not at all. You misunderstand the sentence.

> I didn't invalidate your claim, I demonstrated that it's invalid on its own.

You did nothing of the sort: you just seem to genuinely not understand the sentence you quoted.

And don't get me wrong: it's fine to misunderstand a sentence. What I reacted about was your tone. If you want to talk like this and "educate" people, you better be goddamn right.
by jacquesm | 2025-09-03 23:59:41+00:00
Try to imagine the roles reversed and realize how utterly bizarre this comment is. Just because you can perform drone strikes on parties in other countries does not make it right. If any other country would do any of this to the USA you'd be screaming blue murder but when it is the other way around you're a-ok with it.

Of course it is a due process issue. The USA does not have the legal right - even if they have the capability - to blow up random people on the planet just because they can. This is the kind of attitude that powers terrorism.
by Shank | 2025-09-04 00:00:28+00:00
> Are you telling me that it was a delay when you type in vscode? If so, either your configuration or computer is doing something wrong

This is simply not true. There is inherent latency in any rendering pipeline, and VSCode and Atom both have input latency that is significantly higher than other editors like Sublime Text owing to a bloated rendering pipeline. You can read more about this and how easy it is to introduce latency simply by changing basic things like keyboards here: https://danluu.com/input-lag/ or editors specifically: https://pavelfatin.com/typing-with-pleasure/
by programjames | 2025-09-04 00:00:58+00:00
I think you are referring to

> The strategic thinking that goes into longer-horizon tasks may be something LLMs aren’t as good at, which aligns with why entry-level workers are more affected than experienced workers.

I think the article is talking in generalities, so on average entry-level software engineers have less experience with long-horizon tasks (e.g. months-long development), though there are definitely the exceptions that prove this rule.