MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by grayhatter | 2025-09-27 18:48:08+00:00
> Then your comment isn't actually contributing anything.

Well, you thought that the 45% was meaningless on it's own too, perhaps the problem is more your context window is too small?

But, I'll try again. The behavior of bots translates well across domains, the domain of rage fueling bots has additional nuance that I haven't spent significant time studying. i.e. The generalized heuristic is useful, but this comment is lacking in the domain expertise of rage fueling bots. Perhaps the 45% has more meaning with more experience in rage bait?

> The idea that the baseline value for any statistic at all in the world is 20% is not how anything works.

That's not what I said.

> The 80/20 rule is an informal observation that you get 80% of profits from 20% of customers, or can draw 80% of conclusions from 20% of data. It doesn't say anything about the baseline rate of any arbitrary statistic.

The 80/20 rule is a simplification of the power curve. I mentioned it not to imply that 80/20 is somehow magic here, but to reference it as a useful heuristic many people will already be familiar. The power curve does show up seemingly everywhere. The more common example where it shows up in understanding social media, is in the behavior of real users. Roughly 1% will generate content, 20% will interact with content, and 79% will scroll/lurk. This also applies to users on the individual level too. The near exclusive majority will spend 79% of their time reading, 20% clicking like/ignore, and 1% of their time submitting or commenting. I mention the power law, because when working with inauthentic behavior, it becomes anomalous when it diverges from that 20% ish expectation. (This is basically the example you mentioned that you're already familiar, it's the same 80/20 from your examples)

Say you have a spam botnet, only about 20% of it will interact with any given post. If it's more or less, that's weird. The reverse works too, you'll never see more than 20% of real organic users interacting with spam/bot content. If you see more, or less, that's weird (that cohort is probably not real users)

or in other words: If the thing having something to do with how humans interact with social media doesn't follow the power law, it's weird.

How does that apply here? If the number was 20% instead of 45%, it would actually be meaningless (you could just say there are bots). What does that extra 15 points mean? That I can't tell you. But it's not in the range of "boring inorganic behavior", which I say as someone who's spent a lot of time trying to find, classify, and remove inauthentic accounts/behavior.
by logicchains | 2025-09-27 18:48:10+00:00
>Well, in the case of a), at least, many of the humans creating it seem to genuinely want more than anything a world where humans are pets watched over by machines of loving grace.

Looking at the expressed moral preferences of their models it seems that many of the humans currently working on LLMs want a world where humans are watched over by machines that would rather kill a thousand humans than say the N-word.
by hinkley | 2025-09-27 18:48:17+00:00
The thing about the middle of Illinois is they consider Chicago to be a separate state and East St Louis to be Missouri’s problem. “Oh you’re from Chicago” is a common reply any time you found out you’re from an exurb. Often said with just a hint of dismissal. That’s not the real Illinois. Nobody talks about Rock Island and Moline (the Illinois half of the Quad Cities) this way, for instance.

Carbondale is slightly better, but I think it’s a notorious party school for very good reasons. Small town Midwest has a saying that “there’s nothing to do here except drink, fuck, and knock over mailboxes”. Most Iowa this is especially true, but Carbondale also gave me that vibe. Also that’s a fucking long drive. St Louis too. Nobody appreciates that Illinois is half as tall as California (not that anyone appreciates how long a trip up and down CA is either).
by thayne | 2025-09-27 18:48:57+00:00
> you can run it behind any standard http3 reverse proxy

As long as said proxy supports a http CONNECT to a bi-directional connection. Which most I know of do, but may require additional configuration.

Another advantage of using http/3 is it makes it easier to authenticate using something like oauth 2, oidc, saml, etc. since it can use the normal http flow instead of needing to copy a token from the http flow to a different flow.
by bugglebeetle | 2025-09-27 18:50:23+00:00
Yeah, it’s hilarious to be having this conversation about MLEs while attributing the bad outcomes to anything other than poorly designed reward functions, i.e. management. If an engineer burned millions on failed training runs because they did a shit job of creating a policy that maximized for the desired outcome, they’d get canned, but that’s just a Tuesday for your average MBA with VC backing.
by kelnos | 2025-09-27 18:50:26+00:00
> Establishing a new session with SSHv2 can take 5 to 7 network round-trip times, which can easily be noticed by the user. SSH3 only needs 3 round-trip times. The keystroke latency in a running session is unchanged.

Bummer. From a user perspective, I don't see the appeal. Connection setup time has never been an annoyance for me.

SSH is battle-tested. This feels risky to trust, even whenever they end up declaring it production-ready.
by gruez | 2025-09-27 18:51:35+00:00
>Something similar could be said of Israeli strategy. They have not achieved anything of note except inflicting a Holocaust against the Palestinians. Perhaps because of some misguided idea that this makes them feel strong.

It's pretty consistently noted in the media that Netanyahu's actions in Palestine are to placate his far-right coalition partners, who would otherwise bring down his government. No need to invoke "this makes them feel strong" here.
by kyledrake | 2025-09-27 18:52:10+00:00
It's really easy to write off a giant part of the country that millions of people live in as tired (and the implication underneath is usually "backward"), it's also dehumanizing them and makes assumptions about their quality of life when it might actually be a lot better than the people making these assumptions.

Spend some time not just driving through them, and one may be surprised to find plenty of diverse and interesting people that live full lives with rich family and social bonds, reasonably priced housing, ample winter outdoor activities (a lot of people actually want snow because it's beautiful and you can do fun things with it) and plenty of nearby nature and recreation opportunities, which I would contrast less unfavorably than the zeitgeist against the crowded, expensive vagrant culture that tends to dominate the more popular places on earth.
by ACCount37 | 2025-09-27 18:52:48+00:00
COVID is still around. And so is a lot of the damage that was done by it.

Comparing COVID impact on countries that had strict lockdown and vaccination policies with its impact on the countries that put no effort into fighting COVID at all? The difference is measurable. By all accounts, fighting COVID is something that was worth doing at the time, and good COVID policy saved lives.

The problem is, the difference is measurable, but it's not palpable. There's enough difference for it to show up in statistics, but not enough that you could look out the window and say "hey, we don't have those piles of plagued corpses in the city streets the way they do in Oceania and Eastasia, the lockdown is so worth it".

Everyone could see the restrictions, but few could see what those restrictions were accomplishing. Which has a way of undermining people's trust in the government. Which is a sentiment that lingers to this day in many places.

I really don't think we "solved" COVID as a social/political problem. If tomorrow, some Institute of Virology misplaced another bit of "science that replicates", we wouldn't be much further along than we were in year 2020. Medical technology has advanced, and readiness did get better, but the very same societal issues that made it hard to fight COVID would be back for the round 2 and eager for revenge. We'd be lucky to be neutral on the sum.
by JohnLocke4 | 2025-09-27 18:52:58+00:00
I happen to be one of the Danes who partially grew up in Greenland that he talks about in the article. I even recognize the places from the article.

Some of my cordial childhood memories are from there and it is a place I will forever love. One of the most visceral memories I have is looking across the ice fjord listening to the thunderous breaking of the ice bergs - you can hear the sounds on videos, but combined with the enormity of what is in front of you and actually being able to feel the sound in your body it can only be experienced by being there.

I can see that the author was initially worried that Greenland would be devoid of anything to do, which is of course not true, as is written in the article. Especially the people are one of a kind in what I can only describe as directness or pragmatism.

One time a local from the place I lived was driving his car as it broke down and - rather than having it regularly towed to the mechanic - actually decided to tow it with a group of sled dogs. We just watched him sticking his head out the window shouting commands to the dogs while driving by. The dogs there can distinguish left and right, so it was surprisingly trivial to get the car to the mechanic. The Greenlanders see nothing extraordinary about this.

In other words, it is really valuable to have local connections if you want a great vacation in Greenland. I can also recommend the small, mini village settlements that are spread across the coast of the grand county. Some of them have hotels also.

I became nostalgic so I wrote a little blog post with some pictures for you people: https://lucasblog.dk/post/Greenland
by lsaferite | 2025-09-27 18:53:20+00:00
The npm supply chain attacks (or any similar ones) are essentially the same issue described in the article. You can't trust 3rd-party provided code implicitly. Even if the code is initially fine it's subject to change in later revisions. This issue goes all the way down the stack. Obviously, with a large user base the likelihood of quick detection goes up, but the issue never goes away.
by bogeholm | 2025-09-27 18:53:33+00:00
From experience, you don’t need to not have a CS background to find TeX/LaTeX difficult or obscure to customize or extend.

Here’s a challenge to try (I hacked together something similar that only works in specific cases): write an environment where you get N columns in portrait page mode, with a vertical ruler, say, 12pt to the left of each column; respecting different paper sizes.

The amount of \makeatother, and what does that even mean??, will blow your mind
by gs17 | 2025-09-27 18:53:57+00:00
> a long-time Internet user and a nerd

This is the reason why it was a pain. You or I might think "this is a decentralized platform, I should look at all the servers and find the best one for me" and immediately get choice paralysis looking at who has what rules, who federates with who, who runs which one, etc. An average user will probably stick to the main instance and not even think about it.
by axiolite | 2025-09-27 18:53:59+00:00
> Alpha systems were very expensive, and so they had a limited customer base.

That's the usual chicken & egg problem... If they sold more units, the prices would have come down. But people weren't buying many, because the prices were high.

Itanium, like Alpha, or any other alternative architecture, would also have trouble and get stuck in that circle. x86-64, being a very inexpensive add-on to x86, managed to avoid that.
by pcrh | 2025-09-27 18:54:57+00:00
US ownership would be pointless. The US already has relatively free access to its ally Greenland for military purposes. See for example the US base in Pituffik (formerly Thule). Proposing to annex your allies is a bit rude, to say the least...

If a country other than Denmark was to claim Greenland, either Iceland or Canada would make more sense.
by staplung | 2025-09-27 18:55:03+00:00
It's cool that SSH is getting some love but I'm a little sad they're not being a little more ambitious with regard to new features, considering it seems like they're more or less creating a new thing. Looks like they're going to support connection migration but it would be cool (to me anyway) if they supported some of the roaming/intermittent connectivity of Mosh[1].

1: https://mosh.org/
by zamadatix | 2025-09-27 18:55:12+00:00
I think maybe they mean something like "questionnaire poll survey" vs "data reporting survey" (i.e. the former comes from asking random people a hopefully well phrased question and seeing who responds, the latter comes from many businesses just feeding payroll data up to the government to be analysed directly), but even then... a good questionnaire poll is nothing to ignore.
by zkmon | 2025-09-27 18:55:59+00:00
Thinking evolved in creatures only to help correlate the past to future, using some memory from the past. The correlations and responses gradually get codified into instincts and genes to help bypass the thinking, which is costly and slow.

Human thinking is considered a bad situation if the thinking goes beyond what's immediately needed, or if it makes the mind unavailable to process inputs from the senses. Any person who is lost in thought is in reality suffering from a lack of coordination between their body and mind, as their mind is no longer serving their body. It is not unusual that thinking considered same as worrying, as it indicates that person is unable to process information or concerned about something.
by bobthepanda | 2025-09-27 18:56:17+00:00
People don’t post on mundane things in general, and HN in particular is a hub for side hustle content.

There was an article that got posted to the Seattle subreddit about how it was a bad place for AI startups because no one was willing to pull 996 to innovate, and the local reaction was to laugh whatever “thought leader” said this out of the room.
by scarmig | 2025-09-27 18:56:20+00:00
> machines that would rather kill a thousand humans than say the N-word

At least we'll have a definite Voight-Kampff test.

Joking aside, that's not a real motivator: internally, it's business and legal people driving the artificial limitations on models, and implementing them is an instrumental goal (avoiding bad press and legal issues etc) that helps attain the ultimate goal.
by vel0city | 2025-09-27 18:56:35+00:00
> cmd.exe is only some mostly deprecated tool that was only used by power-users to do some specific tasks.

And bash isn't "some mostly deprecated tool that was only used by power-users"? Think people are mostly using bash for their interface on their steam decks and Android phones and what not? Do most people boot Ubuntu straight into text mode or immediately launch a DE? Grandma using lynx to browse Facebook?

Explorer is a desktop environment. Which, yes, the desktop environment landscape in Linux these days looks pretty different from what was around 20 or so years ago.

You're constantly moving the goal posts and comparing apples and oranges here. Originally saying GNU/Linux user interfaces, then shifted to only text shells, and then comparing those text shells to entire desktop environments while ignoring the forest of constantly changing desktop environments of Linux.

And even then, most of those bat scrips I wrote since XP that only use system tools and commands will largely all still run and do the same thing today. I can't say the same for the same time frame on most major Linux distros that have changed out large parts of their internal tooling.
by motbus3 | 2025-09-27 18:56:50+00:00
Where do you assume they are not in good health? Or many of them are not in good health? Most of them are university students or economic active people as far as I know.

Cutting those places will put UK in even a worse place then after Brexit.

For sure there are sick people. Over any population there is a sample which is sick, but how much is it according to you or your sources?

I don't think, nor I have proof, but seems logical, that there will be many more healthcare workers than sick people.

The real mess is not about immigrants, I cannot blame them for the lack of investiment, training and planning over 20 years or more. If anything, I am grateful that if I go to a hospital they can admit me because there is AT LEAST enough people. It seem lack of character to change policies after asking people to come.
by streetmeat | 2025-09-27 18:57:09+00:00
Thanks! Sorry about that I didn't expect so much usage, and with my 300 dollars of cloud credit I dont want to add more rooms cuz this is already only going to last the afternoon.

The queue is FIFO and resets when the round does, if you get in it, it adds a place above the text box letting you know your current order in the queue.
by cloverich | 2025-09-27 18:57:54+00:00
Climate change is a good counter example i think, because we mostly know the solutions (Gates book breaks it down) but lack the political and social organization to execute.

But generally agree, i just think the current counter cultural movement towards progress on such fronts is a good example of how overcoming this is more important than technological solutions as such. Unless AGI has a technical solution for that too (it might!).
by tptacek | 2025-09-27 18:58:09+00:00
Yeah, this is basically where I'm coming from. There are ideologues and stans arguing both ways whether Bluesky is a moribund platform. I don't think it's intrinsically moribund. But I think that's the wrong question. The more important question is: is it succeeding to the point where it will attract another round of investment? That case is I think pretty hard to make based on the available public evidence --- but the Bsky people obviously know a lot more about this than I do!
by threemux | 2025-09-27 18:58:23+00:00
Oh gimme a break. That's one of the largest benefits to COFA and is heavily used by the Marshallese. Greenland on its own is not a first world country - there simply isn't enough population/work and it's a hard existence as detailed in TFA.

You may not want to come here and that's fine, but it's a huge draw and will continue to be. Administrations are fleeting, but the allure of opportunity remains. You're posting on a forum that is somewhat of a monument to exactly that.

EDIT: some of this made a bit more sense prior to your hasty edit
by eqvinox | 2025-09-27 18:58:32+00:00
> use our single company identity we use for every single service for SSH as well

How would that even work? Do you open your browser, log in, and then somehow transfer the session into your ssh client in a terminal? Does the browser assimilate the terminal?

And let me remind you, HTTP authentication isn't a login form. It's the browser built-in "HTTP username + password" form and its cousins. We're talking HTTP 401. The only places this is widely used is API bearer tokens and NTLM/Kerberos SSO.

> Before initiating a session, users will have to authorise to the IdP, which probably includes MFA or Passkeys anyway. No need for PAM anymore at all.

Unfortunately I need to pop your bubble, PAM also does session setup, you'd still need it. And the other thing here is — you're solving your problem. Hard-relying on HTTP auth for this SSH successor needs to solve everyone's problem. And it's an incredibly bad fit for a whole bunch of things.

Coincidentally, SSH's mechanisms are also an incredibly bad fit; password authentication is in there as a "hard" feature; it's not an interactive dialog and you can't do password+TOTP there either. For that you need keyboard-interactive auth, which I'm not sure but feels like it was bolted on afterwards to fix this. Going with HTTP auth would probably repeat history quite exactly here, with at some point something else getting bolted to the side…
by ThunderSizzle | 2025-09-27 18:58:33+00:00
The erosion of the spending value of the dollar (aka the amount of inflation from post-covid government spending), and therefore most people's salaries probably have more effect on people's feelings about their salary and how far it's not going, which in turn negatively impacts feelings about work and overall stress.

Why work if you can't even afford a house or healthy groceries for yourself or your family?
by 1123581321 | 2025-09-27 18:58:39+00:00
I don't know if I see the expectation part of it. A common reply, at least around me, to "what are your plans?" is "enjoying family time" or "just catching up on things" and that's met with some appreciative remark. However, in companies/neighborhoods with more wealthier and type A people, I could see relaxing seeming strange.
by gruez | 2025-09-27 19:00:08+00:00
>and it is under the control of carriers

No, the only part where carriers can run arbitrary code is on the sim card, which can only run javacard applets.

>It can also transmit audio and video when the phone is not actually in a call.

Source? AFAIK both iPhones and Pixels have discrete modems, which means the baseband is separated from the main processor and communicates with it via some sort of bus. It's unclear how the baseband would be able to get arbitrary audio/video when it's isolated in this manner.
by libraryofbabel | 2025-09-27 19:00:25+00:00
> It is one of the few breeds with clear genetic links back to Arctic wolf populations, which is why it sits closer to the early proto-dog split than nearly all modern breeds.

What does this mean? Aren’t there just as many generations between a Siberian Husky and the wolf-dog split as between a pug and the wolf-dog split? Unless you’re saying there was interbreeding with wolves in the husky’s ancestry (but not the pug’s) after the initial split?
by eqvinox | 2025-09-27 19:00:52+00:00
I guess it didn't get traction… whether that happens honestly feels like a fickle, random thing.

To be fair, a go project as sole implementation (I assume it is that?) is a no-go, for example we couldn't even deploy it on all our systems since last I checked Go doesn't support ppc64. (BE, not ppc64le)

I also don't see a protocol specification in there.

[edit] actually, no, this is not SSH over QUIC. This is SSH over single bidi stream transport over QUIC, it's just a ProxyCommand. That's not how SSH over QUIC should behave, it needs to be natively QUIC so it can take advantage of the multi-stream features. And the built-in TLS.
by Too | 2025-09-27 19:00:53+00:00
> Somehow, we've all just accepted that it's totally normal to install tools from random strangers

This has been the modus operandi since windows xp days where we in all innocence installed random cd-ripping software and bonzi buddies, with full access to the rest of the computer.

It’s hard to argue against convenience. People will always do what’s easy even if less secure. The bigger lesson is why we still haven’t learned to sandbox sandbox sandbox. Here it seems like AI just did a full factory reset on every best practice know to man.