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Show HN: Summoner – Python SDK and Rust relay for live agent-to-agent networking
by rtuyeras | 2025-09-19 19:58:14+00:00
Hi HN!

I and two other colleagues have been building Summoner, a decorator-first Python SDK with a Rust relay for live, duplex agent-to-agent networking across machines. Basically, think MMO but for AI agents.

It's currently in early beta (v1.0) (expect a few sharp edges), but we have already built 25 template agents from which you can build your projects (hello world, question/answer, protocol handshakes, negotiation, etc.) ;

### What it is

- A tiny runtime where you write @receive / @send handlers and let the relay move messages between agents in real time. - Routes are simple strings that behave like labeled edges; the runtime compiles them into a small automaton so agents can coordinate without hand-building graphs.

### Why it’s different

1) Not a model-to-tool connector like MCP: Summoner focuses on agent-to-agent sessions and orchestration, not model-to-tool calls.

2) Not server-anchored agent executors like A2A: Summoner agents are mobile and duplex by default, so they can initiate/serve and move between relays without being wrapped as server executors.

3) Compared to LangChain/LangGraph, Summoner aims for less ceremony: you don't draw the graph, you just register handlers (MCP-like) and let routes drive the flow.

### What I'm looking for

- Critical feedback on the SDK (see https://github.com/Summoner-Network/summoner-docs)

- Where would you want MCP tools or A2A discovery layered in?

- Reliability/perf corners you would test first

- Security review of the state-machine approach

### Links

- Examples (start here): https://github.com/Summoner-Network/summoner-agents

- Docs / design notes: https://github.com/Summoner-Network/summoner-docs

- Core runtime: https://github.com/Summoner-Network/summoner-core

- Project page: https://summoner.org
by close04 | 2025-09-19 19:58:52+00:00
Your take is non-sensical and obtuse, and the attitude is not much better so I’d hold off on the celebratory self-pat on the back.

The people who do the job should get a lot of the credit. But none of them do it for free. Insurance is there to make sure you can pay those people for what needs to be done in the aftermath of very unlikely but very high impact events. A lot of people pay very little so a few people don’t have to pay a lot.

The industry has a lot of failings but this doesn’t wipe out the utility of the service.
by BrandoElFollito | 2025-09-19 19:59:21+00:00
From the first experiment: Scientists get excited when something odd happens because that means they don’t understand it, so there’s something to be learned!

This is the sentence scientists should be repeating over and over again.

In the years I was an active member of the skeptics organization, the first argument provided by the astrologists, homeopaths, telepaths etc. was "you do not have an open mind and cannot get beyond your science". To what I replied that if someone shows me something that cannot be explained by science, I will immediately switch to that in my PhD because, you know, Nobel prize. 30 years later and without a Nobel prize, here I am still waiting :)

Scientists would go wild if there was something that big nit explained by science (I mean that there are plenty of things we do not know for many reasons, but macroscopic events wild be insane to witness. The closest I can think of was cold fusion.)
by saaaaaam | 2025-09-19 19:59:44+00:00
Selling tickets is a really tough really low margin business with a ton of gatekeepers and risk.

First up you need to convince promoters to give you the tickets. Not artists. When an artist signs a deal with a promoter the promoter owns the tickets and can pretty much do what they want.

Problem is, a lot of good promoters in the US particularly are owned by Live Nation, which owns Ticketmaster.

That’s fine though - just work with promoters who aren’t owned by Live Nation! Only problem is the venues those promoters are hiring are owned by Live Nation.

Also, a bunch of artist management companies are owned by Live Nation too.

So if you want to sell tickets for shows in non-Live Nation affiliated venues for non-Live Nation affiliated artists that’s fine.

But those are going to be small shows with relatively unknown artists. The risk increases in inverse proportion to the size of the show and profile of the artist. The promoter you’re dealing with is going to want cash up front, so as the ticketing company you’re going to have to loan them the money. If they run or the show flops or whatever else you are left holding the can.

And because you’re tiny and dealing with unknown shows you’re never going to get allocation for big name shows, so you’re not going to be able to build a valuable list of consumers that you can cross sell shows to.

And for the shows you’re selling you’re going to be left with remnant inventory and so you need someone with good lists who can shift that for you. So you’ll probably end up giving Ticketmaster 30-40% of your allocation from the promoters you are working with.
by LeeRLemonIII | 2025-09-19 19:59:46+00:00
100% it is. there is a whole mix of why innovation and creativity are lacking in tech today. The industry has matured, so the code written is cleaner, safer, and in most cases more organized. Projects are done in a more methodical way with less try something until you make it work experimentation. Companies have more people at management levels who understand the structured process of software development, even if they do not know how to code. This allows them to put in more requirements for reporting and monitoring the process and more oversight of unstructured process development. Most of the people working as coders are more professional than they used to be. They spend their time writing good proposals, better documentation, good pull requests, unit tests, e2e tests, structured design documents etc. This time spent on bookkeeping is not being spent on experimentation.

Lack of profit motive (mostly). Sadly gone are the days of making a killer app and getting fame and fortune. So it is harder to justify spending years of all your free time to build something new.

Through the early 2000's most people entering the IT fields did so for paychecks. There are far fewer pure geeks (as a percentage) than there used to be. My first job out of college as a programmer paid about a dollar an hour over minimum wage. I did not go into this field to compete with the finance bro's financially. I went for the love of technology. That changed so more people started doing this as a job not a lifestyle. These people are not nearly as interested in the experimentation that leads to new innovations.
by olyjohn | 2025-09-19 20:00:02+00:00
Sorry but you're not correct either. The mass makes the car stop slower, makes it corner worse. 100% of the time. Weight is the enemy of performance. You don't see race cars adding weight. Less weight makes everything function better.

Potholes are less disturbing, that is true, but that's because the car is so heavy it won't dip into the hole as quickly. It's still harder in your whole suspension.

We had big huge heavy cars in the 60s and 70s. They rode great, but nobody ever said they handled well or were fast.
by sfink | 2025-09-19 20:00:02+00:00
I like to think of myself as having modest desires, but this story does a good job of making me wonder: am I the fisherman or the wife? I don't want a palace, but I wouldn't want a filthy shack either. Which of my desires, for myself or for others, are truly reasonable? I'd be fine with health and happiness, but none of us is entitled to those by birthright.

It's easy to read this story and think "Hah! Look at that greedy wife, I would not keep asking for more." But... would you ask for anything at all, then? And if you did and got it, would you be satisfied forever? All of history suggests that it is human to keep ratcheting it up.

And on the other hand, is it really "better" to be the fisherman? He may be satisfied with living in a filthy shack, but hey, he's out fishing every day. She's living in it. Is he really in a position to judge his wife for wanting something better?
by DiogenesKynikos | 2025-09-19 20:00:11+00:00
The fact that you think Zionist colonization of Palestine was analogous to black families moving into white neighborhoods is just crazy. I don't think anyone who has ever read about this history could sincerely think that those two scenarios are even remotely comparable.

You're making a big deal of the existence of a "sovereign" - in this case, an imperial overlord that ruled without any democratic accountability, and which implemented policies that were almost universally hated by the local population they ruled over. But because the British Empire supported Jewish settlement of Palestine, you view that as just fine - regardless of what the people who actually lived there thought.

> I don't believe a demographic majority has some inherent right to deny access to minorities who wish to legally immigrate.

That "legality" was established by an undemocratic regime that ruled directly against the will of the overwhelming majority of the population. You're setting up a morality here in which the European imperial powers had a moral right to dictate to their captive colonial populations who would be allowed to live where, and to force them to accept the political / demographic takeover of their lands by a foreign people. And what's more, you think it would be immoral for the colonial population to resist what would effectively be an invasion by a foreign people. Why? Because the imperial overlord said the invasion was legal.

But if you're being morally consistent, you'll have to now say that the Israelis have no moral right to prevent the millions of Palestinians who live scattered across the world from immigrating to Israel. I'm sure you'll quibble that Israeli law doesn't allow that immigration, but that's not a moral objection. If the Palestinians had been allowed to run their own affairs in the 1920s-40s, instead of being ruled over by a foreign power, they would have passed laws preventing Jewish immigration, just as Israel now prevents Palestinian immigration. If you're morally consistent, you'll accept that Israel should allow itself to become a majority-Palestinian country.
by StopDisinfo910 | 2025-09-19 20:00:16+00:00
> Why would i want half assed google walled garden when I could get the Apple one?

Can’t disagree more.

Android has both better phones and better UX. Apple is usually lagging the Asian brands by years.

I went from a Pixel 3A to an iPhone 13 and just switched back to a Pixel 10 Pro and gosh the iPhone was a complete wreck. It’s even worse with their new UI.

Unless you are somehow stuck in the Apple ecosystem, I don’t understand why people pay more for it. The idea than the Android experience is somehow subpar when all Apple has done for the past five years is merely copying it is crazy to me.
by TimTom89 | 2025-09-19 20:00:29+00:00
After losing €12k to invoice fraud in my German e-commerce business, I built a plugin that analyzes WooCommerce orders for risk patterns

The problem: In Germany, "pay by invoice" (Rechnung) is still huge - customers expect it. But combine that with packstation deliveries and fake addresses, you're bleeding money.

What it does: - Analyzes order patterns - Scores risk based on multiple factors - Optional API for enhanced detection (hosted in Germany for GDPR)

Just launched on WordPress.org. The basic version is free forever, planning to add premium features based on feedback.

Tech stack is simple: PHP/MySQL, optional REST API for enhanced checks.

Would love feedback from anyone dealing with e-commerce fraud, especially in markets where post-payment is common.
by torton | 2025-09-19 20:00:37+00:00
"In recent months, both broadcasters have announced their intent to buy or sell local TV assets — Nexstar is in the process of effectuating a $6 billion merger with peer broadcaster TEGNA, and Sinclair is executing on a mixture of station acquisitions and sales — all of which require the approval of the FCC."

https://thedesk.net/2025/09/nexstar-sinclair-jimmy-kimmel-fc...
by magicalhippo | 2025-09-19 20:00:47+00:00
Here in Oslo Norway, Ticketmaster is almost everywhere. Yet the local venues, Ticketmaster ones included, have tons of shows in the $30-50 range. That's for venues with a capacity for 500-1500 people.

We have larger venues for larger artists, almost always international ones, and there ticket prices are often starting at around $80-100 and quickly go way up if you want a good location.

However personally I found I enjoy the sub-$40 concerts the most. Mainly because the smaller venue lets you get close, sound is usually much better and quite often I find a lot more passion on stage at these venues, which turns into more memorable experiences. And if the concert ends up not being my thing or just not that great, then I've just wasted the price of a few beers so no big deal.

One thing that keeps Ticketmaster in its reins here in Norway is our legislation, which limits the kind of processing fee shenanigans and similar they can do. Also scalpers became much less of a problem after they introduced a law that you can't charge more than the original price when reselling tickets.
by tomxor | 2025-09-19 20:02:41+00:00
I wonder what the difference between PM2.5 from cooking oil or fat vs PM2.5 from combustion engines is on the lungs.

My instinct is that it should be less toxic from vegetable oil, if it's just vaporised... past the smoke point maybe the chemistry changes enough to make it more toxic. The body has mechanisms to remove foreign matter from the lungs, but how easily and how much it clogs up your lymph nodes seems to depend on what it's made of.
by ajross | 2025-09-19 20:02:57+00:00
> - What Kimmel said was wrong (assuming you believe Utah state investigators) and deeply irresponsible and inflammatory.

Was it really though? Paraphrased, Kimmel said that the killer was a republican. He had a republican background, but it didn't motivate the killing which didn't seem to have any particular ideology beyond (maybe) trans identity politics and/or edgelord memery. So yeah, that was wrong.

But if that's "irresponsible and inflammatory", then isn't it equally so to blame "democrats" or "the left", also groups with which Robinson has no documented affiliation? And we can all agree that this is happening pervasively on the right, at all levels.

The double standard here seems troublesome to me, and likely deliberate. Which, I'll add, what actually the point Kimmel was trying to make.

> now I get to do 3 hours of reading to say "it never really existed in broadcast television and also yes, this is bad, but not nearly as bad as you think" and boom now I'm the fascist

You're not a fascist, but you do seem to be sort of an apologist. Doesn't the linked article directly refute the "not nearly as bad as you think" bit? It's happening again!
by kelnos | 2025-09-19 20:03:16+00:00
You better believe that if a Democrat were in the White House doing similar things, the conservative wing of SCOTUS would have voted the other way.

I no longer consider SCOTUS rulings as good measures of what the law actually is. Instead I look to the lower court decisions that brought us there. If they agree with SCOTUS, or there's no consensus, then sure, ok. But if the lower court rulings are largely the opposite of the final SCOTUS rulings -- especially if the lower court judges include folks appointed by Trump or another conservative president -- I think it's fair to assume that SCOTUS's decision is partisan, ideological bullshit that bears little resemblance to actual law in the US.

It pains me to say or even think this, because in the past I've had a lot of respect for our Supreme Court, but that respect is completely gone at this point.
by leakycap | 2025-09-19 20:03:29+00:00
I went for an annual checkup recently and they asked if I cared if they used AI notes. I didn't mind.

Later, I logged in to the electronic patient records and looked at the notes out of curiosity. It was excellent and much more thorough than the notes from prior years, which I assume were dictated or transcribed semi-manually and therefore not as detailed.
by jabroni_salad | 2025-09-19 20:03:45+00:00
turning off the DVR is just a UI change. ytarchive can still grab the past parts of the broadcast just fine. What's really funny is it will even download censored segments which sometimes happens in music broadcasts like A State Of Trance or Group Therapy. You can also force enable seeking with a userscript if you wish.

The problem with this DVR feature is that if your connection is stuttering it will buffer you backwards a bit. Streamers like to disable this because they want to keep the time to deliver as low as possible so chat is more interactive and engaging, especially on youtube where your viewership might not qualify for the CCV metrics if the stream is not in a foreground tab. Best to leave it off if that is important for you.

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/485020-ytbetter-enable-rew...
by jrs235 | 2025-09-19 20:04:07+00:00
Because Sinclair needs the FCC to approve a merger for them. They read between the lines and know that to get it approved they need to apply pressure on ABC to can Kimmel to appease someone.

I wish the law that restricted the number of public stations/licenses a single entity could own was still in place. It was created to prevent what's happening now, silencing of varied and different ideas, views, and opinions.
by fuzzfactor | 2025-09-19 20:04:19+00:00
>The pattern was visible in two of the equations studied, the Incompressible Porous Media (IPM) and Boussinesq equations.

Wait until they get into porous media of variable porosity at pressures up to 20,000 psi or more. You get compressibility factors up the wazoo. Plus anywhere near critical points, physical density can take on almost new meaning so one of the holiest grails was to pray for digital densitometry and live to have it come true :)

In oil & gas exploration research back in 1981 we had one of the early experts working on this but it required a mainframe. He was tied into the big iron by time-sharing dial-up from the same lab where I had helped build the facilities for the physical modeling. Using the actual subsurface core samples and reservoir fluids in question where enhanced oil recovery was contemplated. I was doing advanced data handling for the oil & gas analyzers using new benchtop HP systems where it previously required a mainframe, so until then it only had been possible within the major oil companies' own labs, not any technology startup.

>Unlike conventional neural networks that learn from vast datasets, we trained our models to match equations which model the laws of physics.

We had models but not neural networks, but already thought that AI was probably going to be good as it matures, so that's what we were preparing for every day. There was still great room for improvement in the equations for the exact reasons these modern researchers have worked to pinpoint, so that kept us plenty busy. Plus we were invoicing oil companies and making money on our experiments as we went along, where I absolutely love delighting clients and giving them their money's worth, and "busyness" there matches the description most appropriately. I guess I turned out to always favor computer modeling where you have a physical lab to check advancements against, as well as invoice from.

The oil bust hit in 1982 and all groups like this were scattered, followed by decades of depression in research after which it has never been comparable. Nobody cared about this kind of thing any more, at least not anybody that could afford it.

What these researchers have elegantly pursued in automated discovery of these type snafus using modern powerful computers is what's basically been on my mind since I heard about LLM's to begin with. Things like this that I've always wanted to do, mere language models still wont help me now, or no matter how much better they get at language.
by somethoughts | 2025-09-19 20:04:19+00:00
It feels a better strategy for all parties involved to have transitioned these shows to ABC's streaming properties (i.e. Hulu) and made them "exclusive" content for these platforms.

This would have put them out of the reach of the FCC (based on the FCC's initial spectrum is for public benefit for all claim) for now.

There is probably significant IP in both of these shows that could still have been monetized given brand familiarity. It would have been less than before but still something is better than nothing.

I don't have any data to back this up but I can't imagine a lot of people still use Over The Air TV. And the intersection of people who rely solely on OTA TV and are clamoring to watch Kimmel/View is probably even lower.

This also would probably have benefitted the administration in that it wouldn't have trigger as many alarm bells from a free speech perspective.
by taurath | 2025-09-19 20:04:21+00:00
> I always thought the US to be a stronghold of democracy and free speech.

Every single story and moral guidance I've ever been told from childhood, whether from movies, books, church, or culture in general is that people like those in power right now are the bad guys.

I no longer have any idea what people on the other side actually think. I don't think they know anymore either. I think they just want to exert power and control and revenge over their personal grievances and boogeymen, and seem to be under a constant bombardment of ideology to convince people to untether themselves from any moral restraint or connection with the out-group.

I am one of the scary minorities they use as a boogeyman, and their rhetoric about the group of people I belong to is so unattached from my daily life, the values that I hold, and my own attitudes that it would be comical if it didn't come out in sideways glances, scowls, and stares of people on the street. Nobody ever even bothers to ask, to even have a moment of conversation to see that there is a real person. I try to walk through life friendly, open, and interested in people. We walk around with conceptions of other people built for us, not ones that we have made ourselves.

The only thing that seems to help is to try to be offline as much as possible, to be in community with people and in real space.
by cma | 2025-09-19 20:05:26+00:00
Make sure the studies control for people bed bound for long times in the hospital or in home care, they are magnitudes more likely to die early and don't get as much sun as people doing sports etc. but the sun isn't likely to be the primary factor.

If they claim causation in the paper it is usually controlled for, if they just claim a link it might not be.
by hobs | 2025-09-19 20:05:56+00:00
That would be called concern trolling where I am from. This idea that "woke" has somehow threatened people is an amusing but rings more hollow every day.

Right wing authoritarianism is by far the biggest terrorist threat in the united states - right wingers literally threaten war on social media on the regular and love their guns, elected officials are literally conspiracy theorists who talk about jewish space lasers and weather control systems, women have lost the right to abortions, we are testing the waters on gay marriage and mixed race marriage, we started a global trade war, the courts, congress, and the executive branch are controlled by one party and no one is doing any balance of powers.

This all happens and I still hear people talk to me like "the liberals just shouldn't say X on twitter because its rude!!!" as if that's going to stop the white nationalists currently on the rampage in the government.
by justinrubek | 2025-09-19 20:06:15+00:00
I like eggs fried crispy. I like eggs fried in butter. Eggs fried gently and soft are luxurious. Oil cooked eggs are lovely. You can do it in a wok and get them puffy with a crispy bottom and a soft top. Or you can make the top crispy. Sometimes butter brings extra flavor when I really want the egg flavor. There are many valid ways to make eggs.