MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by ajross | 2025-09-30 18:15:40+00:00
I won't buy or recommend one just on principle. I've spent way too much of my life advocating for open firmware and user-customizable systems to throw it all in the trash for a few hours of battery. I absolutely tell everyone they're the best, and why, but my daily driver has been a Linux box of some form (OK fine I have a windows rig for gaming too) for decades, and that's not changing.

Also, again, most folks just don't care. And of the remainder:

> Compiles code twice as fast as my new Windows desktop

That's because MS's filesystem layer has been garbage since NT was launched decades ago and they've never managed to catch up. Also if you're not apples/applesing and are measuring native C/C++ builds: VS is an OK optimizer but lags clang badly in build speed. The actual CPU is faster, but not by nearly 2x.
by gamegoblin | 2025-09-30 18:15:43+00:00
I saw a famous actor-director (can't remember who, but an A-list guy) said it would be super valuable even if you only use it for establishing shots.

Like you have an exterior shot of a cabin, the surrounding environment, etc — all generated. Then you jump inside which can be shot on a traditional set in a studio.

Getting that establishing shot in real life might cost $30K to find a location, get the crew there, etc. Huge boon to indie films on a budget, but being able to endlessly tweak the shot is valuable even for productions that could afford to do it IRL.
by superfrank | 2025-09-30 18:15:58+00:00
I just watched the announcement video and something about it just gives me the ick. The whole time I just had the uncanny valley feeling.

The technology itself is super impressive, but a social media app of AI slop doesn't feel like the best use of it. I'm old enough to not really be interested in social media in general anymore, so maybe I'm just out of touch, but I just can't see this catching on. It feels like the type of thing that people will download, use a few times until the novelty wears off and then never open again.
by jacobgkau | 2025-09-30 18:16:18+00:00
> Gmail is gonna be real hard though.

Gmail seems like the easiest piece of the Google puzzle to replace. Different calendar systems have different quirks around repeating events, you sometimes need to try a variety of search engines to find what you're looking for, Docs aren't bug-for-bug equivalent to the Office or iCloud competitors, YouTube has audience, monetization, and hosting scale... Gmail is just "make an email account with a different provider and switch all of your accounts to use the new address." They don't even give you that much storage for free Gmail; it's 15GB, which lots of other email providers can match (especially paid ones). You can import your old emails to your new provider or just store them offline with a variety of email clients.

Is updating all of your accounts (and telling your contacts about the new address) what you consider to be the hard part, or do you actually use any Gmail-specific features? Genuinely curious, as I tend to disregard almost all mail-provider-specific features that any of my mail providers try to get me excited about (Gmail occasionally adds some new trick, but Zoho Mail is especially bad about making me roll my eyes with their new feature notifications).
by nostrademons | 2025-09-30 18:16:52+00:00
It's not the traditional economics framework but having read Akerlof's paper, I can read the title of this post and understand what they mean.

There's a very real phenomena where markets often start out functional and then descend into a market for lemons, and it has to do with game theory again. When the market is small and still growing, firms in it can count on repeat interactions. Even if your customers don't buy from you again, there are new customers, who often ask the existing customers what they should buy, and so you have an incentive to produce a good product. The information asymmetry that Akerlof describes doesn't exist, because actual experiences with the products quickly get conveyed to other market participants and incorporated into their purchase decisions.

But when the market matures, those repeat interactions (and prospect of future sales) decline. People who have repeated needs and vendors they can trust often exit the market and deal directly with their vendors. What's left are buyers who are not particularly well-connected and don't have a whole lot of information on past experiences with the product, but who trust the market as a whole. This is the kind of information asymmetry that breeds a market for lemons. Eventually all products start becoming crap, everyone who knows how to find non-crap exits the marketplace, and the market collapses.
by mc32 | 2025-09-30 18:17:12+00:00
Smudges are off-putting... but, there are times when it would be very convenient to be able to scroll or click on a touchscreen. There are times when presenting when a touchscreen would be preferred over a mouse or touchpad. It's not often, but they are nice to have.

And, in regards to smudges, I mean, just don't use the touchscreen unless you have to and problem avoided.

Antiglare can be a thing but that can be avoided by avoiding string lighting behind you.
by paulryanrogers | 2025-09-30 18:18:09+00:00
Please keep in mind many non-voters aren't laying around on the couch, but working multiple jobs trying to pay rent and healthcare. Our unitary president is talking about restricting mail in voting and taking other measures to ensure the desired outcome.

He's already resorted to sending fake electors, demanding votes be 'found', and inciting violence to interrupt the results of elections he doesn't like. (And pardoning those found guilty of participating in such interference on his behalf.)
by jacquesm | 2025-09-30 18:18:25+00:00
This will be Boeings answer to the Bombardier C Series, aka the Airbus A220 series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A220 , which is one of the nicest planes for short haul in service at the moment.

Edit: indeed, not the 'Neo', I got the name wrong but the link right.
by layer8 | 2025-09-30 18:18:44+00:00
> Brands like MZOO, YFONG, WAOAW popped up, and these seemed less like companies and more like vowel smoke ejected from a factory flue hole, then slotted into a distribution platform.

Obligatory Ryan George video: https://youtu.be/nQpxAvjD_30?t=4
by lxgr | 2025-09-30 18:18:53+00:00
> it becomes much more whimsical and fun than TikTok because everyone on the app knows that all content is fake.

Sounds about as plausible as "ironically taking heroin".

> Nobody's going to get their news from Sora because it's literally 100% fake.

I'm with Neal Stephenson ("Fall", in this case) on this prediction, although I really hope I'm wrong.
by stego-tech | 2025-09-30 18:19:00+00:00
Damn impressive if true, but I’ll be honest, I still don’t feel the need to replace my M1 iPad Pro or my M1 Pro Macbook Pro. They’re both more than amazing for my use cases - though if Apple suddenly took gaming seriously, like extending Rosetta to act as a translation layer for Windows games a la Proton, I’d gladly throw down for an M5 Ultra when it’s released.
by bergheim | 2025-09-30 18:19:07+00:00
We are just heading for Lovely All TM.

I kid.

Art should require effort. And by that I mean effort on the part of the artist. Not environmental damage. I am SO tired of non tech friends SWOONING me with some song they made in 0.3 seconds. I tell them, sarcastically, that I am indeed very impressed with their endeavors.

I know many people will disagree with me here, but I would be heart broken if it turned out someone like Nick Cave was AI generated.

And of course this goes into a philosophical debate. What does it matter if it was generated by AI?

And that's where we are heading. But for me I feel effort is required, where we are going means close to 0 effort required. Someone here said that just raises the bar for good movies. I say that mostly means we will get 1 billion movies. Most are "free" to produce and displaces the 0.0001% human made/good stuff. I dunno. Whoever had the PR machine on point got the blockbuster. Not weird, since the studio tried 300 000 000 of them at the same time.

Who the fuck wants that?

I feel like that ship in Wall-E. Let's invest in slurpies.

Anyway; AI is here and all of that, we are all embracing it. Will be interesting to see how all this ends once the fallout lands.

Sorry for a comment that feels all over the place; on the tram :)
by lanza | 2025-09-30 18:20:47+00:00
> I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations.

Literally everything you do gets the full power of the chips. They finish tasks faster using less power than previous chips. They can then use smaller batteries and thinner devices. A higher ceiling on performance is only one aspect of an upgraded CPU. A lower floor on energy consumed per task is typically much more important for mobile devices.
by oceanplexian | 2025-09-30 18:20:56+00:00
I’ve been using them as a customer and have been fairly impressed. The thing is, a lot of inference providers might seem better on paper but it turns out they’re not.

Recently there was a fiasco I saw posted on r/localllama where many of the OpenRouter providers were degraded on benchmarks compared to base models, implying they are serving up quantized models to save costs, but lying to customers about it. Unless you’re actually auditing the tokens you’re purchasing you may not be getting what you’re paying for even if the T/s and $/token seems better.
by JdeBP | 2025-09-30 18:21:02+00:00
If you want to banjanx the algorithm, instead, watch a few Kyoto Tachibana Senior High School Band videos (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIouDxRfTb8) or Shimane Prefectural Izumo Commercial High School Band videos (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPLzr3cuFtk).

There appears to be an enormous algorithmic weight to those. Just a few such videos completely swamped my recommendations with Japanese marching bands a couple of years ago. Simply finding those two to copy their URLs into this post has immediately put two further band videos into my recommendations.
by miltonlost | 2025-09-30 18:21:06+00:00
Oh, I get the joke with the second part about the a run-on sentence and intentionally making that grammar mistake; mostly I don't like his hyperbole there and an either-or (the best jokes are the accurate ones). It's mainly the title I loathe for its poor usage of an em dash, which to me doesn't seem to be in on the joke.
by IAmBroom | 2025-09-30 18:22:02+00:00
> But the line between "just cutting a few corners" and prosecutable criminality isn't nearly as bright as we in the peanut gallery like to think. Lots of very successful startup launches (Uber and AirBnB are famous examples) were kinda/sorta/prettymuch illegal by the plain language of the laws they were (not) operating under.

Not prosecuted, and not prosecutable, are two different things.

> And they got stinking rich!

Which in no way validates their actions, ethically nor legally.
by DetroitThrow | 2025-09-30 18:22:15+00:00
They synthetically generated 290k examples and kept 10k of them for testing.

It's worth pointing out that that's technically not testing on the training set, but looking at how similar examples are in the dataset, it's clear that severe overfitting would be unavoidable. That also makes the headline very misleading.

The weights may not be published since using it for document extraction on even the same format but with slightly different content or lengths would show how abysmal this finetune does outside of the synthetic data.
by w10-1 | 2025-09-30 18:22:21+00:00
In my observation, this "coherence" is a matter not only of understanding, but of accepting, particularly certain trade-off's. Often this acceptance is because people don't want to upset the person who insisted on it.

Once they're gone or no longer applying pressure, the strain is relieved, and we can shift to a more natural operation, application, or programming model.

For this reason, it helps to set expectations that people are cycled through teams at slow intervals - stable enough to build rapport, expertise, and goodwill, but transient enough to avoid stalls based on shared assumptions.
by input_sh | 2025-09-30 18:22:24+00:00
Yes, that is fine! That's how RSS feeds usually work when you follow more "mainstream" news sources. At the very least, you see the name of the author and you actually make a connection to their server that can be measured in the analytics.

But instead, Kagi "helpfully" regurgitates the whole story, visits the article once, delivers it to presumably thousands, and it can't even be bothered to display all of the sources it regurgitates unless you click to expand the dropdown. And even then the headline itself is one additional click away, and they straight up don't even display the name of the journalist in the pop-up, just the headline.

Incredibly shitty behaviour from them. And then they have the balls to start their about page with this:

> Why Kagi News? Because news is broken.
by jrowen | 2025-09-30 18:22:28+00:00
I just don’t understand that assertion when there is very clearly still a massive proprietary closed-source software industry. How are you measuring? A lot of people use open source packages, because they’re free and easy, to build closed source products. Does that count as a win for open source? In my experience most engineers aren’t that fervent about it.

Either way, with social, and the network effects required, you’re targeting end users. The widest net with the lowest common denominator. Whatever success open source has had among people that live and breathe these issues every day is not replicable there.

I’m probably coming off as just a hater or anti-open source or something but I’m really not, I just feel like there’s a certain perspective that is a lot more niche and esoteric than its proponents realize.
by gruez | 2025-09-30 18:23:12+00:00
>But he’s also the person who created Facebook, who allowed it to be used by children, so it’s extremely hypocritical, no?

>Why doesn’t he make Facebook for over 18s only?

Should non-smokers be allowed to be tobacco executives? I think everyone agrees that smoking is bad, but whether the CEO partakes in it shouldn't really be a relevant factor either way.
by perihelions | 2025-09-30 18:23:17+00:00
I learned something fascinating this week! (Unrelated to OP). The algebraic computation of the Hausdorff dimension of a fractal set is *exactly the same* as the Master Equation of the asymptotic analysis of algorithms! I.e.: where a Sierpinski triangle has dimension log(3)/log(2) ~ 1.58—intermediate in between that of a line and of a plane—that's the very same log(3)/log(2) as in the O(n^(log(3)/log(2)) of, say, the Karatsuba algorithm. In Karatsuba, when you recursively split a digit representation of a number in half (2), you get three new multiplications (3). In a Sierpinski triangle, rescaling by a factor of 2 increases the number of non-empty triangles at that scale by 3. And it really is the *same* manipulation: the Hausdorff dimension of the fractal is a critical exponent of an asymptotic function growth rate, a function of the diameters in a covering set in the ε→0 limit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausdorff_dimension
by Harmon758 | 2025-09-30 18:23:26+00:00
Just for concrete confirmation that LLM(s) are being used, there's an open issue on the GitHub repository, on hallucinations with made up information, where a Kagi employee specifically mentions "an LLM hallucination problem":

https://github.com/kagisearch/kite-public/issues/97

There's also a line at the bottom of the about page at https://kite.kagi.com/about that says "Summaries may contain errors. Please verify important information."
by flowerthoughts | 2025-09-30 18:23:40+00:00
I've been receiving email spam from Derilla, a pillow company, for many years. Once the manifest V3 abomination went into effect in Chrome, I also have to endure it on the frontpage of YouTube.

Who buys pillows because of email spam and YouTube ads? I don't get it. It's probably not a scam, but a very obnoxious company nonetheless.
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by alephnerd | 2025-09-30 18:23:58+00:00
I can't justify paying a junior engineer $120k-140k base salary to train them in OS fundamentals over several months in an industry as competitive and commodified as cybersecurity when competitors in Israel, Czechia, Poland, and India are able to hire experienced engineers at a lower dollar amount than a number of junior engineers in the US expect.

This is why the majority of startup activity in the space has shifted to Israel, the CEE, or India with a nominal American HQ hosting a CEO, CRO, and sales reps.

And this is the issue - we live in a globalized world, and a large portion of junior engineers in the US do not have the skills commensurate to the salary provided.

A business is not a charity.
by notsydonia | 2025-09-30 18:24:43+00:00
Exactly. I also wonder what the end game is. If creating content becomes a loss-making exercise, people will logically stop and the LLMs will have less and less to content to 'train on.' And as even large news corps are increasingly deploying internal LLMs, the deadening banal style of LLMs, A.I. over-view etc will inevitably drive readers away. I use Perplexity for search in place of Google and it surfaces good links most of the time. But what do tech and media companies - even spotify - think they will do when the artists, reporters and creatives stop feeding them? Or readers don't want to read banal summaries of everything?
by thewebguyd | 2025-09-30 18:25:27+00:00
> The reduced horsepower relative to M-series isn't a problem for me as much as efficiency is

Same here. I actually don't care for macOS much, and I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes Windows (with WSL).

I tried the surface laptop 7 with the snapdragon X elite, and it's..OK. Still spins up the fans quite a bit and runs hotter than my 14" M4 Pro. It's noticeably slower than the MacBook too, and isn't instant wake from sleep (though it's a lot better than Wintel laptops used to be).

So I've been on Apple Silicon macs for the last 4.5 years because there's just no other option out there that even comes close. I'm actually away from my desk a lot, battery life matters to me. I just want a laptop with great performance AND great battery life, silent, runs cool, high quality screen and touchpad, and decent speakers and microphone.

MacBooks are literally the only computer on the market that checks all boxes. Even if I wanted to/preferred to run Windows or Linux instead, I can't because there just isn't equivalent hardware out there.
by socalgal2 | 2025-09-30 18:26:02+00:00
AFAICT, lots of "AI" related stuff runs slow on M1,M2,M3,M4

I don't know if this already exists but it would be nice to see these added to benchmarks. Maybe it's possible to get Apple devices to do stable diffusion and related tech faster and just needs some incentives (winning benchmarks) for people to spend some effort. Otherwise though, my Apple Silicon is way slower than my consumer level NVidia Silicon
by pessimizer | 2025-09-30 18:26:34+00:00
> I don’t know how you can claim all this when ai is nondeterministic and hallucinates.

It's so bad. I was thinking that it would at least replace people whose job is largely to give their worthless opinions, but it won't even do that. Those people's real job is often to add head count, to give your uncle's kid a job or to be fired when things go wrong. AI can't do any of that, it just generates the worthless opinions. Now the idiot won't even have to imitate the verbiage they sort-of heard in college; they're the ones that are using AI the most, to bullshit for them.

It's good for helping you think through stuff you're thinking about by repeating back to you in different words (and getting even that wrong often, forcing you to clarify.) It's horrifically bad at finding or following references, reasoning, or coming up with anything new.

It's not eating software, it's barely even touching software, other than being shoveled into it randomly. The obvious proof that AI is bad is that there are actual geniuses who came up with the algorithms to speed up, parallelize and to bias in a way that makes them seem more productive and creative. LLMs don't seem to be helping amazing minds like that improve AI itself. If LLMs were even going to be fertile, that pairing would be a semi-singularity even if these exceptional humans couldn't be taken out of the loop. My bet is that they don't help at all.
by xeeeeeeeeeeenu | 2025-09-30 18:26:37+00:00
>IMO you can't tweak the TikTok/YouTube shorts format and make it a societal good all of a sudden, especially with exclusively AI content.

I agree. At best, short videos can be entertainment that destroys your attention span. Anything more is impossible. Even if there were no bad actors producing the content, you can't condense valuable information into this format.
by roncesvalles | 2025-09-30 18:26:43+00:00
Yeah, to me that’s always been the obvious most "expensive" part about doing YC. It’s not the chunk of equity, it's that they now know everything about your company, your road map or ideas, and the way you think and operate. And that's a pretty good deal for whatever little money they're spending on you. The whole thing has a "frenemies" vibe.
by Retric | 2025-09-30 18:26:54+00:00
>> It’s not as bad if you can exclude stuff from copyright and then use that

Making a copy of a news article etc to train with is on the face of it copyright infringement even before you start training. Doing that for OSS is on the other hand fine, but there’s not that much OSS.

I think training itself could reasonably be considered fair use on a case by case basis. Train a neural network to just directly reproduce a work being obviously problematic etc. There’s plenty of ambiguity here.
by chistev | 2025-09-30 18:27:02+00:00
> People get trapped in the idea of “deserve”. When we use that word, whatever comes after becomes conditional. Things just are. There is no deserving.

DESERVES GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWire/comments/msd073/deserves_go...

> Consistency of efforts trumps all in the long run. Intelligence matters way less. Simply showing up every day takes luck out of the equation. Even if you roll a dice with a 10% win rate, with enough rolls, you will win once eventually. And in life, that’s all we need.

Consistency is the most difficult thing in the world, but it's what separates the top 1% from the rest of us. I'm trying my best to be among the top 1%.

Glad I saw this, I'll use a similar format for a future post on my personal blog, but I'll put my own spin on it.