MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by keymasta | 2025-08-06 18:49:23+00:00
Tried my personal benchmark on the gpt-oss:20b: What is the second mode of Phyrgian Dominant?

My first impression is that this model thinks for a _long_ time. It proposes ideas and then says, "no wait, it's actually..." and then starts the same process again. It will go in loops examining different ideas as it struggles to understand the basic process for calculating notes. It seems to struggle with the septatonic note -> Set notation (semitone positions), as many humans do. As I write this it's been going at about 3tok/s for about 25 minutes. If it finishes while I type this up I will post the final answer.

I did glance at its thinking output just now and I noticed this excerpt where it finally got really close to the answer, giving the right name (despite using the wrong numbers in the set notation, which should be: 0,3,4,6,7,9,10:

Check "Lydian #2": 0,2,3,5,7,9,10. Not ours.

The correct answers as given by my music theory tool [0], which uses traditional algorithms, in terms of names would be: Mela Kosalam, Lydian ♯2, Raga Kuksumakaram/Kusumakaram, Bycrian.

Its notes are: 1 ♯2 3 ♯4 5 6 7

I find looking up lesser known changes and asking for a mode is a good experiment. First I can see if an LLM has developed a way to reason about numbers geometrically as is the case with music.

And by posting about it, I can test how fast AIs might memorize the answer from a random comment on the internet, as I can just use a different change if I find that this post was eventually regurgitated.

After letting ollama run for a while, I'm post what it was thinking about in case anybody's interested. [1]

Also copilot.microsoft.com's wrong answer: [2], and chatgpt.com [3]

I do think that there may be an issue where I did it wrong because after trying the new ollama gui I noticed it's using a context length of 4k tokens, which it might be blowing way past. Another test might be to try the question with a higher context length, but at the same time, it seems like if this question can't be figured out in less time than that, that it will never have enough time...

[0] https://edrihan.neocities.org/changedex (bad UX on mobile! - and in general ;)). won't fix, will make new site soon) [1] https://pastebin.com/wESXHwE1 [2] https://pastebin.com/XHD4ARTF [3] https://pastebin.com/ptMiNbq7
by margalabargala | 2025-08-06 18:49:29+00:00
Certainly the current administration is taking actions that will worsen whatever happens.

The Great Depression lasted a decade and caused a 30% reduction in US GDP. That's really really bad.

I think people are just using "worse than the Great Depression" as a rhetorical device to mean "it would be bad", without out actually understanding what it would mean to be "worse than the Great Depression".
by mlhpdx | 2025-08-06 18:49:52+00:00
I built a DNS resolver on Proxylity[1] as a demo but it didn’t occur to me that block by default was a use case. I might have to add that.

My suggestion: Allow by ASN would be a clean (simple) way to get all of Google, etc., allowed at once.

[1] https://github.com/proxylity/examples/tree/main/dns-filter
by filoleg | 2025-08-06 18:50:08+00:00
In the US, it would be unthinkable for a hospital to send patient data to something like ChatGPT or any other public services.

Might be possible with some certain specific regions/environments of Azure tho, because iirc they have a few that support government confidentiality type of stuff, and some that tout HIPAA compliance as well. Not sure about details of those though.
by adgjlsfhk1 | 2025-08-06 18:50:11+00:00
for about a decade, integer multiplication was at n4^log*(n) where log* is the iterated logarithm.

Also the curently best factorization algorithm (GNFS) is at exp(k*log(n)^1/3log(log(n))^2/3).

Intro algorithms classes just tend to stay away from the really cursed runtimes since the normal ones are enough to traumatize the undergrads.
by SpicyLemonZest | 2025-08-06 18:50:14+00:00
Internet access should be different because it's fundamentally broader and harder to limit than those things. If most people got their drinks from a machine with a monthly subscription, I would definitely say that the machine should check your ID before dispensing beer. Perhaps it has "parental controls" that let you set a beer password, but this is an incomplete solution; it's not practical for me to audit every drink dispenser my kid might spend time around, and it does nothing to protect children of irresponsible parents who can't be bothered to set it up.
by Imustaskforhelp | 2025-08-06 18:50:50+00:00
I think that just as how perplexity had actually created a deepseek(fine-tune?)[1], then there is more and more incentive towards making uncensored models though I am gonna be honest, Kimi K2 isn't that censored but I tried the gguf variant of this model on local pc and it definitely is censored / biased towards china (like taiwan is part of them and so on)

But still, the most recent version of american foss model gpt-oss is just so filled with censorship that its just not worth it in the name of "safety", so to me both are doing censorship but I'd much rather use chinese censorship since its only censored on chinese topics and I mean, I personally wouldn't be ever asking chinese models chinese questions but maybe that's just me.

And even if I would, I would probably ask it on some uncensored, in fact I was actually thinking of creating a fine tune like the perplexity, or just this idea to break chinese censorship.

I also think that some better idea needs to come up with multi modal approach so that censorship could be removed by mixing and matching american and chinese models, I do think it is far from reality but I read a recent comment about harmony which gpt-oss uses and it does look promising I am not sure.

[1]: https://huggingface.co/perplexity-ai/r1-1776
by zdragnar | 2025-08-06 18:51:03+00:00
The first company I worked for (a smallish business) interviewed a guy who seemed normal and knowledgeable enough in the screener call. At the time, they just asked that people being in code samples to discuss in the second interview (this predated GitHub) and he brought in some obviously copy-pasted code that didn't fit together.

He then, without prompt, in the middle of a conversation mentioned that he was the second coming of Christ. The interviewers ignored the comment and continued the interview.

When he didn't get the job, he sued the company for religious discrimination. Fortunately, the interviewers could honestly say they didn't discuss or ask about his religious beliefs, and he lost. It was said he did this elsewhere as a a scam, though I never verified it.

The simple matter of fact is that it doesn't matter how neutral you are; there are enough people out there who will look for any way to perceive and benefit from a grievance that you must assume they will.
by vineyardmike | 2025-08-06 18:51:06+00:00
> I’m sorry but how is that any of your business?

Part of living in a society is considering the social impact of things. Such as the erosion of training opportunities for young talent.

Each business can make their own decisions, but someone should be thinking about the greater good. “Within your rights” doesn’t mean it’s a good thing, nor should that be the sole standard we set for members of our society. Same reason people hire interns and write technical blogs, open source code and sponsor school hackathons. Sometimes the greater good should be a consideration.
by benreesman | 2025-08-06 18:51:17+00:00
I believe you, my situation might have been different. I never had much growing up and never had good jobs until like my mid 20s, I remember it sucking to be broke but not being scary if that makes sense? You could usually find at least a shitty job and even a shitty job could get you some kind of apartment or room even with bad credit. Nice apartments had hard credit checks but there were independent landlords everywhere, so if you didn't mind the occasional drug deal on your block, it was like, workable. Now its all property management companies with what amounts to one computer system and if you don't like it? AirBnB is happy to absorb every last house, room, carboard box, and park bench.

And a shitty job is no guarantee of a shitty room now, you see homeless people still in the Best Buy shirt they were wearing when they got laid off, and Best Buy is nowhere near the worst job.

I thought working hard and being really good at computer stuff was basically some kind of bare minimum job guaranteed, that being free with my money might mean not retiring young. Didn't realize tech employment was war.

Wrong. Won't make that mistake again.
by asdefghyk | 2025-08-06 18:51:22+00:00
It seems that's the problem - part? of the problem revenge . Seems everyone/most? wants to wipe all others out, not make pragmatic decision to stop the seemingly always ongoing fighting over the years.

If there is not going to be a "circuit breaker" then it seems these wars will continue.

If Hamas not in Gaza, Israel would have no excuse for attacking. REcall Hamas has said they want to kill all Israel people.

My understanding of situation is quite limited to recentish events. Obviously other has different views based on their involvement.
by thomassmith65 | 2025-08-06 18:51:32+00:00
The internet badly needs a standard system for people to verify their age*, identity**, etc but it's a terrible idea for that system not to be pseudonymous.

* as in "I am over n years old", not "my exact birthday is nnnn-nn-nn"

** as in "I am a unique human you know as <uuid>", not "I am John Q Smith"
by lunaticlabs | 2025-08-06 18:51:37+00:00
Holy shit! I ran into this growing up in California. Would have been early 1990s. I have long been bitter that I had taken algebra in 8th grade, and starting high school in 9th grade they made me take algebra again because I was told I couldn’t skip ahead that far. I was too young to be in the class. For the record, I’m white snd middle class, so don’t fit that pattern, but I am neuro diverse. Anyhow, everyone has excused it at the time with shit like it must have been a technicality, or that the algebra was more advanced, or something along those lines. Anyhow, it’s nice to be validated sometimes, and this is one of those times so I thought I’d share.
by jefftk | 2025-08-06 18:52:02+00:00
The most obvious way to do it would be:

* Get a sample of 100 random people or so

* For each person, have them track their time

* For each thing you have them tracked doing, estimate how much it would cost to get someone else to do it

But it pretty quickly gets difficult around questions of entertainment. If I go dancing for fun, should you count how expensive it would be to hire a professional to dance in my place? If I woodworking or knit for fun but then I also give away the things I make to my friends as presents should we count that at market value?
by Lerc | 2025-08-06 18:52:09+00:00
I think it is generally accepted that AI should not reproduce works that others have the right to. I think most people developing AI consider it a mode of failure when it does reproduce a copy of its training data.

It remains an open question on who's responsibility it is to not distribute infringing AI works. The developer or the the user of the AI. Legally it is unclear due to a lack of cases providing precedent in such a new situation. Morally I think AI developers do consider it a duty to reduce such behaviour to a minimum, but also believe that the benefits of the AI are significant enough that it would be unreasonable to block access to them because of the existence of failure modes.

When it comes to being "slopped up" which is a weird phrasing in itself, but I gather you are trying to repurpose the term "slop" to add additional pejorative tone to you words. I'm not really a fan of 'slop' as a term for AI output because it is used specifically as a term for AI output. Should it be used as a blanket term for low effort, mass generated content it would be reasonable, but when it seems to apply specifically to AI it carries the implication of prejudice. Choosing to move it to a verb describing input removes all of the meaningful aspect of the term leaving only the prejudice. Just go with "slurped up"

That brings us to what training actually is, Reading. There is no requirement for attribution to read something. There is no requirement for attribution to learn from something. The restrictions on reproduction are there in recognition of your work representing the ideas. The ideas themselves are not copyrightable, This is widely recognised legally and morally. Scholars have written volumes on why this should be the case and how bad it would be if the alternative, a world where people could own ideas themselves, were true. Imagine the wealth imbalance that exist in today's world, now extend that imbalance from money to the very ideas that you use to express yourself.

AI should not reproduce your work by terms you have not agreed to. You have a valid complaint when it does that. My concern is that people appear to be extending their claims to suggest that they control the right to be learned from. That is not true, right, or moral.
by Alupis | 2025-08-06 18:52:12+00:00
> P.S. Sadly, I think enough people have left Twitter that it's never going to be what it was again.

Majority of those people came back after a while. The alternatives get near-zero engagement, so it's just shouting into the wind. For the ones that left over political reasons, receiving near-zero engagement takes all the fun out of posting... so they're back.
by zahlman | 2025-08-06 18:52:24+00:00
> Veins close to the surface of the skin appear blue for a variety of reasons. The factors that contribute to this alteration of color perception are related to the light-scattering properties of the skin and the processing of visual input by the visual cortex, rather than the actual colour of the venous blood which is dark red.[6]

Huh, thanks.
by trinix912 | 2025-08-06 18:52:36+00:00
An additional consequence is it’s going to be significantly harder to set up an alternative social media site, as you’ll have to play by these rules which might end up favoring a certain provider’s implementation, or delegating the government the ability to shut down your site on a whim (even if through a court). This, I think, is way more concerning than having to ID your account on Meta.
by HaZeust | 2025-08-06 18:52:38+00:00
The distinction is irrelevant, and if you read the ruling - any evidence that proves difference between the three is inadmissible in court. It is impossible to challenge grounds of the Executive saying that any and ALL actions he takes is within the capacity of an "official duty". The ruling makes clear that we simply HAVE to take their word for it.

One must understand that the more safeguards we have to enact retribution in these cases, the better. You're not supposed to point to one after loss of another - you're supposed to point towards as many as possible. Before last July, the courts were the one we pointed to the most, and they are no longer nearly as much at our disposal as they were before then.

It doesn't invoke sovereign immunity through a loud roar, but from an understood nod.
by JohnFen | 2025-08-06 18:52:49+00:00
I don't think there's really a monetary price that would make me conflicted about it. If I were struggling to survive, I'd likely think very differently, but I'm not. As long as my income is sufficient for me to live the life I prefer (which it is), money is not a very large motivator for me.

However, the time taken up by the need to work is a very large price to pay. I'd be fine taking a pay cut to have more time for living.
by coredog64 | 2025-08-06 18:53:01+00:00
> Then of course, this Google AI gives me YouTube Premium for some reason (no idea how that's related to anything).

One of the common tests I've seen for the Google models specifically is understanding of YT videos: Summarization, transcription, diarization, etc. One of their APIs allows you to provide a YT video ID rather than making you responsible for downloading the content yourself.
by starkrights | 2025-08-06 18:53:15+00:00
Not sure of the rest of the world, but at least in the US, patenting “software” is a pretty murky subject legally (at least it feels that way when trying to do some basic research on it) Something that seems common among sources discussing it is that “Software Related Inventions” (eg, a computer that does XYZ) can be patentable, but software/code itself is not literally patentable. Seemingly, because we’re talking about libraries that would be pure software, not a product for sale based on it, you wouldn’t be able patent libraries like you’re talking about.

I’d provide links to some discourse of this, but honestly I think it’s better to search “can you patent software in the US” and do a brief read of various sources, because the terminology between them can seem somewhat counterfactual to eachother.
by munificent | 2025-08-06 18:53:21+00:00
I'm definitely not at retirement age yet, but I do have to admit that I'm hopeful I can make it to retirement while still mostly working in a way that I enjoy.

At the same time, I've realized that "let me just try to squeeze out the last of my career" is a really unhealthy mindset for me to hold. It sort of locks me into a feeling like my best days are behind me or something.

So I am trying to dabble in using AI for coding and trying to make sure I stay open-minded and open to learning new things. I don't want to feel like a dinosaur.
by rickydroll | 2025-08-06 18:53:35+00:00
I'm having bad flashbacks to 2008. Then I had a series of wallet-destroying medical events, went bankrupt, lost my house, got divorced, and have been dealing somewhat successfully with PTSD from that ever since.

Fortunately, this time around, I have a partner who is gainfully employed and has valuable skills that could be used in other companies. I am somewhat successful at consulting, plus a small pension. So the chances of going completely bankrupt are small, but not zero.

But oh fuck, I am having nightmares.
by nerdjon | 2025-08-06 18:54:56+00:00
Agreed, and the fact that there is not an easy "x" to close it is even worse.

If you want to do something cute and fun, whatever its your site. But if you actually want people to use your site make it easy to dismiss. We already have annoying ads and this is honestly worse than many ads.

Also, from the bio that I can barely see he writes about "UI Design" and... included this?
by mvieira38 | 2025-08-06 18:54:59+00:00
It took me like half an afternoon to get set up for my workplace's monorepo, but our stack is pretty much just Python and MongoDB so I guess that's easier. I agree, it's a significant trade-off, it just enables a very convenient workflow once it's done, and stuff like having it make 4 different versions with no speed loss is mind-blowing.

One nice perk on the ChatGPT Team and Enterprise plans is that Codex environments can be shared, so my work setting this up saved my coworkers a bunch of time. I pretty much just showed how it worked to my buddy and he got going instantly
by c-smile | 2025-08-06 18:55:00+00:00
DOM per se, as a tree of elements, is not that bad. CSS is also not that bad in general.

Their API is probably the problem. Not modular so makes the mess.

Options to modularize them:

DOM, concept of interfaces/behaviors rather than inheritance leading to huge maps. Let say for <textarea> we may have separate "textarea" interface:

element.tagName ... and the rest of DOM-as-a-tree methods ... element.textarea // <textarea> specific interface of its behavior element.textarea.select(startEnd) // interface method element.textarea.selectionStart // interface prop element.textarea.selectionEnd // interface prop element.textarea.rows // interface prop element.textarea.columns // interface prop ...

CSS, that huge flat table is a nightmare, not just because of its size, but because of extensibility problems right now and in the future. Example, all CSS grid related properties should rather go to their own namespace:

section { color: red; // ... and other basic CSS 2.1 props display: grid( rows: ...; columns: ...; align-items: center; justify-items: start ); }

So different layouts ( like display:flex(), display:waterfall() ) may have their own rows, columns, etc.

As sooner we will do that - the better. API is on the brink of collapsing / combinatorial explosion, indeed.
by jraph | 2025-08-06 18:55:14+00:00
Do you have this documented somewhere?

I tried to set up netboot a few times, it seems like this should be very easy to do, especially that I self host many things, but I get lost in the technical details every time. I think I succeeded once, with the dhcp server running on a laptop running Debian…

Turns out doing some speleology to find a USB key and burning an ISO on it using cat or pv ends up being radically easier…

(OTOH it's been a while since I last tried and now I have root on my router running OpenWrt so I guess it would be a tad easier…)
by rayiner | 2025-08-06 18:55:18+00:00
You can pick isolated examples from any political group. Here’s Obama with Louis Farrakhan: https://www.ajc.com/news/local/could-this-long-lost-photo-ha.... Look up what he said. Look up what elected Democrats in San Francisco have said about Asians: https://www.kqed.org/news/11896759/sf-school-board-member-al.... You’d think that, in the current climate, Democrats of all people would rethink the notion that pointing to some racists or antisemites in a crowd of people is somehow reflects on the whole crowd: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-pal...

But to circle back to the point. There’s no arguing with NPR listeners who insist that the Trump GOP, which won near-parity among Hispanics, nearly doubled its vote share among black people, and won 40% of asians, is meaningfully based on “racism.”[1] A meaningfully “racist” party does not lead to a decade of racial depolarization. If you have to come up with the concept of “multiracial whiteness” to reconcile your theory with the facts, that’s because your theory is a joke.

There’s myriad valid criticisms of Trump and the Trump GOP. But this one is painfully dumb, and it persists only because it feeds into a self-flattering white-savior narrative in which NPR listeners are enraptured.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trump...
by jacksavage | 2025-08-06 18:55:28+00:00
Let's say "A" has a direct dependency on "B". The author of "A" knows how they use "B" and are qualified to state what versions of "B" that "A" is compatible with. Yes, some assumptions are made about "B" respecting semver. It's imperfect but helpful. If I'm writing package/app "C" and I consume "A", I'm not qualified to decide what versions of "B" to use without studying the source code of "A". Some situations necessitate this, but it doesn't scale.

As a separate thought, it seems that it would be possible to statically analyze the usage of "B" in the source code of "A" and compare it to the public API for any version of "B" to determine API compatibility. This doesn't account for package incompatibility due to side effects that occur behind the API of "B", but it seems that it would get you pretty far. I assume this would be a solution for purely functional languages.