MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by Gormo | 2025-08-26 18:01:30+00:00
Well, "the market" is just a descriptive model that represents the aggregated pattern of economic activity within society -- there is no "outside" of the market, and everyone, including political states, are just market participants.

Arguing against things being "left to the market" in the abstract is not sufficient to address the particular incentives that are producing undesirable outcomes, and does not offer any viable mechanism for shifting those incentives.

Specific proposals that attempt to operationalize what you're arguing here always seem to gravitate toward giving monopolistic power to a specific institution that invariably demonstrates that its own incentive structures are riskier than those in the broader market, and its failure modalities far more destructive.
by TimorousBestie | 2025-08-26 18:02:10+00:00
> This is explictly restricting speech (restricting the right to advertise for labor) and would have to meet a high first amendment bar in the US.

Fraud or specifically false advertisement is not protected by the First Amendment. 15 USC 52 and ff.

> What's the compelling interest in this case that allows the government to control speech?

Ghost job postings negatively impact interstate commerce.
by geoffpado | 2025-08-26 18:02:15+00:00
The way I read it, the first dialog showed up the first time you launched the app, and never had the Purchase button. The idea was that 15 days later, you’d see the second dialog (after 15 minutes of recording). Due to the bug, however, the second dialog showed up after 15 minutes of recording from day 1.

The second dialog was always shown (and presumably always had the purchase button), but the difference was between whether users got 15 full free days first or not.
by tracker1 | 2025-08-26 18:02:27+00:00
+1 on this... I keep saying, I wish that System76 could work with Framework to sell a model with PopOS preinstalled and supported by System76. I'd pay an extra $200 just for that, not that everyone would be willing to pay extra since Framework is already at a bit of a price premium. Most other Linux vendors (Tuxedo, Slimbook, etc) seem to be mostly EU centered and based, which is a bit of a negative if you're in the US.
by nemosaltat | 2025-08-26 18:02:56+00:00
My father-in-law, something of a renaissance man, and also a long-time successful commodities trader, regularly uses your latter expression. The first time I heard him say it, I attempted to correct him (“some are useful”) and he confidently brushed me aside. As I’ve matured, I’ve grown confident that his (your) version is less wrong.
by shkkmo | 2025-08-26 18:03:13+00:00
> You should explain the active harm this causes, because your partisan celebrity worship is causing you to look goofy in front of strangers.

I explained the active harm in the very sentence you quoted.

>> he told me that a SWAT team showed up with AR-15s after someone gave a false tip to the local sheriff’s office that Arbaugh was in danger.

I'm not a big fan of Musk for a number of different reasons. I'm even less a fan of the cult of hatred that pops up whenever his name is mentioned.

I'd rather look like a goof (nothing wrong with being goofy or weird sometimes) than help spread hatred.
by neilv | 2025-08-26 18:03:51+00:00
I think you're supposed to touch the touchpad in particular ways with your thumb, while using your index finger on the TrackPoint stick.

I wonder what the set intersection is, between people who want TrackPoint sticks, and people who don't want TrackPoint buttons.

ThinkPad industrial design the last several years seems focused on looking thin and sleek -- like an Apple product, only in matte black, with a red accent in the middle of the keyboard -- but some of the human factors changes aren't intuitive to me.
Patient Lisp Hacker Seeks Same for Long Walks Through IPL-V Code
by abrax3141 | 2025-08-26 18:04:20+00:00
I'm looking for a collaborator on an obscure yet historically significant programming project. As some of you know, I previously worked with the team that reanimated ELIZA (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44300641). I'm now working on reanimating the original Logic Theorist (LT), the legendary theorem-proving program written in IPL-V by Newell, Shaw, and Simon at RAND in the mid-1950s (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43822619). LT was one of the first AI programs ever created. It proved theorems in Principia Mathematica, and is considered a founding work of artificial intelligence. And IPL-V, a direct forerunner of Lisp, was explicitly designed to support AI programming (more precisely, symbolic heuristic programming). Fortunately, IPL-V is well-documented, and I've written an interpreter for it in Lisp that (mostly) correctly runs the original LT (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43822619). But I've hit some nuances that I'm having trouble thinking through, and feel like I need fresh eyes and someone to rubber duck with. (Because I'm the only person on earth currently working in IPL-V, I can't ask ChatGPT or Stack Overflow as there is no active community for it, and no historical information other than a few badly OCR'ed publications! I've actually tried feeding ChatGPT and Claude the IPL-V manual and having them help, but, as anyone who has used LLMs to program well knows, they're good for boilerplate in common modern languages, but pretty poor at understanding subtle programming issues, especially in a dead language!) So I'm looking for an Lisp hacker with a fascination for AI and computing history, or who just wants to be able to say they are one of two hackers alive who have worked on one of the first AI systems and languages. The only reward I can offer, aside from that badge of honor, is academic co-publication, as there's significant academic interest in early AI. (Once LT runs, there are several other of the earliest AIs that we should be able to breathe life into!) So if you're intrigued by the idea of bringing the first AI programs back to life on the first AI programming language (really, one of the first ever programming languages, and almost certainly one of the most esoteric!), DM me.
by behnamoh | 2025-08-26 18:04:23+00:00
unfortunately this happens in academia too. last year was brutal for most PhDs in business schools because the number of positions dropped significantly compared to the year before, and the ones that were "on the market" weren't all legit. there were several top tier schools that did the first-round interviews or even flyout seminars only to test the waters, with no intention of hiring. the fact that universities and professors thought it was okay to waste candidates' time was in itself telling about the culture in those schools.
by legitster | 2025-08-26 18:04:37+00:00
If we're talking about medieval beer production, it certainly started with boiling the water.

In absence of temperature measurement, they would time how long the water had been off the boil before it would be used.

They also commonly believed that the boil was integral to the carbonation in the final product. That the amount of time spent boiling the water correlated to more bubbles in the beer, and would often do things like boil the water until it was half gone.
by tharmas | 2025-08-26 18:04:44+00:00
Canada has been absolutely ruined by these elites following the path of immigration. Canada is the perfect case study. Not just in immigration but foreign investment too where you allow all the investment to pour into just one sector: housing.

Canada has been so badly managed that it gives the Soviets et al a run for their money in stupidity, short-sightedness and greed.

Also, Canada is not as big a country as it appears on a map. A good deal of it is uninhabitable.
by godelski | 2025-08-26 18:04:56+00:00
I switched from Android to iPhone for this reason (months ago). Not because Apple doesn't have faults (boy does it have a lot it then) and not because GrapheneOS isn't actually a better alternative. I switched because I wanted to send a market signal.

This is what I hate about all this. We have to play these stupid games because everyone is using data in stupid ways. Everything has become incredibly myopic. Yes, I could buy a Google phone and root it but Google takes their sale and uses that to justify that their actions don't change things. But in the world we are in there's really just two choices: Apple or Google.

Which is why I find the fighting comments here so dumb. Fight me, go ahead. But if you are going to just know I hate them both. Think of it like a presidential election if you will. I'm at "any functioning adult" at this point. Yes, that means they're nonexisting.

What happened to the old days? When programmers were the counterculture. When we believed in unfettered freedom. When we believed in encryption by default. When did that dream die? We've never had more of a chance of this dream succeeding due to technological advancements yet we've never been so far because of will. Was it the money? Was it that we got too hung up in tribalism? Or was it that we are petty as fuck and let perfection destroy good enough for small open source companies but don't hold these megacorps to the same standards? Is it the complexity of the system and how there's no actually good choice? Is it just that we're too dumb? Maybe we just like the cyberpunk style so much we just wanted to make it a reality ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
by apercu | 2025-08-26 18:05:06+00:00
It's not that I couldn't contribute to a 401k/RRSP that year, it's that I needed the cash for downpayment/repairs.

You can take a loan from your RRSP for a downpayment, but only on your first home purchase.

(I was an immigrant and had owned a house in the US, and I am apparently the only person who had ever answered that question honestly, so I could not borrow from my retirement, and I had to pay provincial sales tax because of this as well).
by somenameforme | 2025-08-26 18:05:42+00:00
The paper is fundamentally flawed in numerous technical ways also. The most overt is that they are looking at the current state of countries with low fertility rates. The consequences of low fertility lag the onset of low fertility by many decades, but are largely inescapable. Taken to an extreme, if everybody in a country just stopped having children, that country would look, from an economic point of view, excellent for at least a couple of decades.

For a real example, South Korea has a fertility rate of ~0.7 while Japan has a fertility rate of ~1.4. Yet South Korea seems to be doing okayish, while Japan has clearly entered into decline. The reason is because South Korea had a 3+ fertility rate all the way up to 1976, whereas Japan hasn't had a 3+ fertility rate since 1952. Give South Korea a couple of decades and it'll make the Japan of today look like a utopia. For that matter give Japan a couple of decades and it'll make the Japan of today look like a utopia - their decline is still just beginning, as they only hit the current lows in the 90s.
by nemothekid | 2025-08-26 18:05:48+00:00
This is the wrong way to look at it. The people in the US that you would want working in semiconductors aren't NEETs. They are at Facebook/Google/Jane Street/Citadel/McKinsey.

If I am a capable person working on delivering node improvements dealing with smaller and smaller challenges as the physics issues become quantum - I will eventually start to ask myself: why am I working on the hardest physics problems in the private sector for 150k/yr, when I can transition to Facebook or Jane Street, work equally (if not less) as hard and make 500k/yr?

The US has plenty of smart people. I'd argue more that the wealth inequality gap makes it _incredibly_ difficult to justify working for less, even in a field you love, when you can make top 1-4% of income doing something else.
by shafoshaf | 2025-08-26 18:06:05+00:00
This is a great podcast on philosophy in general, but this episode on Technofeudalism https://open.spotify.com/episode/5SjdkYzdSp6tHTdD2o1OAe?si=8... talks directly about the state of Big Tech taking over the capitalist free market. The same as is happening with large scale industries like you mention.
by liuliu | 2025-08-26 18:06:51+00:00
Also, let's not forget that Apple / Google is violating PAFACAA right now (the TikTok act, by allowing TikTok in the U.S. AppStore / PlayStore) b/c DoJ is instructed to sue anyone who is following PAFACAA. This will create a lot of headache for Apple / Google when a different administration comes into power. (The extension signed by EO is not to do the 90-day extension permitted by PAFACAA, it is merely says DoJ won't enforce PAFACAA and will sue anyone following PAFACAA b/c DoJ should be the only one who enforces PAFACAA).
by Use | 2025-08-26 18:06:58+00:00
I think it'd help to view the online community's userbase as savvy in the sense of being "on their guard" for the community having a "dodgy Discord culture" that bleeds into the site or game in question, for lack of a better term. Maybe there's a better name I could come up with, but I don't know of any other discussions about this that point towards a more precise, formal term.
by ranger_danger | 2025-08-26 18:07:30+00:00
FYI The entire state of Michigan falls within the 100-mile border zone, where searches do not have as much protection:

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

Also friendly reminder that "the Constitution does not grant aliens any protections when trying to enter the United States."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ex_rel._Knauff_v...
by ziplines | 2025-08-26 18:07:34+00:00
> They don't pre-suppose anything

Oh I think they do presuppose a link to the main everyday meaning of the terms allow and deny. To their merit! But yes they do not presuppose conditionality or time-limits.

> versus being able to leverage what the other person already knows

I'd guess over a million people start learning software dev every year without any prior knowledge of these industry terms. In addition while dev terms often have english roots many, maybe even a majority, of new devs are not native english speakers, and for them the other meanings and etymology of whitelist/blacklist might be less familiar and maybe even confusing. In that regard allowlist/denylist have a descriptive advantage, since the main everyday meaning of allow/deny are mnemonic towards their precise technical meaning and when learning lots of new terms every little mnemonic helps to not get overwhelmed.

> you can't just say allow list this block of IPs and walk away in the way saying whitelist these works.

You can once the term is adopted in a context, like a dev team's style guide. More generally there can be a transition period for any industry terminology change to permeate, but after that there'd be no difference in the number of people who already know the exact industry term meaning vs the number who don't. Allowlist/denylist can be used as drop in replacement nouns and verbs. Thereafter the benefit of saving one character per written use of 'denylist' would accumulate forever, as a bonus. I don't know about you but I'm quite used to technical terms regularly getting updated or replaced in software dev and other technical work so this additional proposed change feels like just one more at a tiny transition cost.

> it looks more like creating jargon to signal group membership

I don't think any argument I've given have that as a premise. Cite me if you think otherwise.

> The term blacklist predates

Yep, but I think gains in descriptiveness and avoiding loaded language has higher priority than etymological preservation, in general and in this case.

> Trying to bend a global language like English

You make the proposed industry term pair change sound earthshaking and iconoclastic. To me it is just a small improvement.

Thanks for the discussion!
by hnlmorg | 2025-08-26 18:07:38+00:00
That’s a fair question. You’re right about the crossplay part. Kids have consoles, which only support Bedrock. So if I want to play with them, then I need to play Bedrock too.

Which is a pity because, like yourself, I first played the Java edition too.

As an aside, I think Bedrock is the only version that supports VR. I don’t play VR Minecraft often, but sometimes it’s fun. Albeit only for about 15 minutes, then the motion sickness kicks in (curiously it’s the only VR game I’ve played that does give me motion sickness)
by darth_avocado | 2025-08-26 18:08:06+00:00
> This is bullshit that hurts everybody, but Americans the most.

Price I pay is not getting my $20 fairy lights that made my backyard look cute. The price foreign factory workers pay is that they’re out of a job. I don’t think Americans pay the most, but they do pay.

Edit: Clearly people are missing the point Im trying to make here. I’m trying to address the viewpoint that Americans will somehow lose the most, which i don’t think is the case. This isn’t a pro tariff argument. American consumer is the biggest market there is on the planet. Pretending we can just find other buyers is ludicrous. Yes, there will be some jobs affected domestically, but that number will be much higher elsewhere.
by avianlyric | 2025-08-26 18:09:09+00:00
What do HSMs have to do with anything? Using HSMs doesn’t make it harder for a provider to decrypt your data, they can just ask the HSM they control to decrypt your data whenever they want.

HSMs exist to make it harder for outsiders to exfiltrate keys, not make it harder for insiders to decrypt stuff.

I can’t speak for China. But outside of China iCloud E2E uses keys that are only stored on customer devices. I.e. your iPhone is the HSM. In theory iCloud needs zero crypto capabilities server side, because all the crypto happens client side, and servers are just moving opaque encrypted blobs around.
by duxup | 2025-08-26 18:09:19+00:00
>“We yet cling to the hope,” Judge Wilkinson wrote, “that it is not naïve to believe our good brethren in the executive branch perceive the rule of law as vital to the American ethos.”

Where are these judges coming from? Are they paying attention?

Meanwhile SCOTUS decides president is more equal than others.

Hello? Judges?
by veidr | 2025-08-26 18:09:39+00:00
I don't give any fucks about battery life or even total power consumption cost; I just hate that I have some crap-ass Apple mid-range (for them) laptop with only 36GB RAM and an "M4 Max" CPU, and it runs rings around my 350W Core i9-14900K desktop Linux workstation, and there is essentially no way I can develop software (Rust, web apps, multi-container Docker crap) on Linux with anything close to the performance of my shitty laptop computer, even if I spend $10,000.

That's actually wild. I think we're in a kind of unique moment, but one that is good for Apple mainly, because their OS is so developer-hostile that I pay back all the performance gains with interest. T_T
by xg15 | 2025-08-26 18:09:40+00:00
Indeed it is. I think the tech is enormously exciting, but the ways in which both ordinary people and people in power could abuse it, are obvious.

I also don't trust the current brand of tech billionaires to handle this stuff responsibly - if they aren't specifically aiming for those dystopian scenarios even.

Based on all of Musk's past behavior, he doesn't exactly strike me as a guy who would deeply care for the disabled or make it his life's mission to cure spinal cord injuries - or even to grant super powers with no strings attached to the average person.

But he does seem like the kind of person who obsesses about the "next stage of evolution of the human race"...
by shafoshaf | 2025-08-26 18:09:42+00:00
To be fair, China has been widely abusing the <$800 rule for a number of years. And it really wasn't not helping either economy. Temu routinely employs forced labor and worse to give those super low prices that US companies can't compete with. https://youtu.be/quGoGgbP-aE?si=FL8pgTssEwn5qEvS&t=387
by reissbaker | 2025-08-26 18:09:45+00:00
as long as it comes from a 100% legally trained model

This is where your entire argument falls apart. You can't sue people just for using a tool that has the capability to violate copyright: you actually have to prove they did so. While it's technically true that you don't need to meet the bar of "proof" for civil cases, you're still not in luck: the bar is "preponderance of evidence," which you don't have if you're just blindly suing people based on using an LLM (and zero actual evidence of infringement). Using an LLM isn't illegal, so evidence that they used an LLM isn't evidence of anything that matters to your case: aka, you have nothing.

All of your other examples similarly fall apart. For Napster cases, the RIAA had to show people actually violated copyright, not that they just had Napster installed or used it for non-copyrighted works. And again, you're trying to motte-and-bailey your way out of your original claim that you could blindly sue LLM users, as opposed to training companies who make the models. You couldn't sue Megaupload users who used Megaupload for random file storage — you could only sue Megaupload for knowingly not complying with copyright law.

You really just don't understand the legal system. I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore. If you think you have a free money cheat code, go ahead and try to use it — you'll fail.
by em-bee | 2025-08-26 18:10:17+00:00
if you fail to find a candidate then you will easily be able to demonstrate that the candidate suing you for violating the law was not qualified and therefore has no reason to sue.

if you hire rarely, same thing, if you can demonstrate that it takes a long time to find the right candidate. or, you could be requested to pause posts.

to handle a possible confusion about multiple listings, each job could have some kind of ID, in any case you wouldn't have multiple job posts in the same listing.
by organsnyder | 2025-08-26 18:10:41+00:00
Sure, that could be the eventual goal. But for that to happen, we need to ramp up manufacturing in thousands of sectors: not just the device, and not just everything it contains, but also the machines that make each of the components, the machines that make the parts for those machines, the raw materials for each...

If this was a serious economic policy, it would have started small—perhaps a 5% tariff, to take effect in six months. Then, promise to ramp it up (say an additional 5% every year).
by nullc | 2025-08-26 18:10:46+00:00
> any decent loop should average the sawtooth

You can't really, depending on their relative phases and the resulting aliasing products the average of the sawtooth error can still have an arbitrary offset which last for an arbitrarily long time.

> that they will not have that much effect

okay fine for some definition of 'not much' that's true. But failing to account for it can result in a bigger error than many people expect-- and in an annoying way, since when you test it might be in a state where it is averaging out okay but then later shift into a state where it's producing an offset that doesn't average out.

Assuming your receiver outputs the correction it's pretty easy to handle, so long as you know it's a thing.
by Aurornis | 2025-08-26 18:10:52+00:00
The countries producing semiconductors and manufacturing other goods are also producing SaaS services. It's not unique to the United States.

The number of countries producing leading edge semiconductors is actually small. The number of companies doing this work is very small, too. Although much of the economy needs chips to operate, those leading chips are concentrated in the production of a very small number of companies.
by gpm | 2025-08-26 18:10:54+00:00
> otherwise they assume the entire PCB consists of copper, aluminum, and steel, and charge a 100% tariff on the whole product.

Do I understand this correctly that if I have a 1kg product that costs $1000... the US is trying to charge me a $1000 tariff on at most $10 [1] worth of metal?

[1] Copper is the most expensive of those metals at roughly $10/kg