MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by ethagknight | 2025-08-08 15:59:44+00:00
Well. My Tesla has been driving me around for a couple years now. it's not perfect but it's certainly not a fantasy to eliminate the human driver observation components and just let it rip. I dont know where Tesla stands in terms of progress for robotics, but a major difference maker will be Elon's willingness to risk billions to get there.

Merging together the technological paths of autonomous behavior of a robot and all the little actuators, power supplies and sensors suites does not seem like a big leap either. Challenging but not fantasy.

Part of Elon's process is demonstrating the potential need / business case, while also testing implementation in real world, high stakes environments. A bartender/service roll is a fun place to test since they can deliver a service in a public setting, potentially tethered to the wall.
by Epa095 | 2025-08-08 15:59:53+00:00
(First, I apologise that this message must be hasty, I must do life stuff).

I really feel like your first graph proves my point? OK, at times it goes up, at times it goes down. But since 2002 the dividend is the same, but the S&P 500 is 7x. So the lazy capitalist puting in 10 million there in 2002 got 132k in yearly 'income' then, now he gets 925k yearly.

You wanna figure out how much average salary increased the same period? I am willing to bet it's closer to 2 than 7.

And that shows who gets the fruit of our increased productivity. Owners.
by xnorswap | 2025-08-08 16:00:08+00:00
Thanks, I think that was it.

Yes, there are always "reasons", but things have got dramatically worse, with especially 8 -> 10 -> 11.

It particularly annoys me when apps/widget/utilities partially load in and sit there with nothing but a blank chrome, slowly partially rendering.

It's a plague that has affected everything, even Task Manager.
by butterisgood | 2025-08-08 16:00:22+00:00
I'm pretty sure AI _is_ "personal computing".

One can speak in their native language to a computer now and it mostly understands what is meant and can retrieve information or even throw together a scaffold of a project somewhat reliably.

It's not particularly good at writing software, however. Still feels like a human is needed to make sure it doesn't generate nonsense or apparently pretty insecure code.

So I'm not sure the author got the point across that they wished, but aren't vector databases basically a semantic storage/retrieval technology?
by ajoseps | 2025-08-08 16:00:31+00:00
I mostly agree with you on this but JIRA tends to push the envelope in terms of unresponsiveness of its UX. As an IC I only really use it to create/update/search tickets but I find myself waiting a half to couple of seconds for certain flows, especially for finding old tickets.

Not quite the same as responsiveness but editing text fields in JIRA have a tendency of not saving in progress work if you accidentally escape out. Also hyperlinking between the visual and text mode is pretty annoying since you can easily forget which mode you’re in.

Honestly as I type these out there are more and more frustrations I can think of with JIRA. Will we ever move away? Not anytime soon. It integrates with everything and that’s hard to replace.

It’s still frustrating though.
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by croemer | 2025-08-08 16:00:49+00:00
Oh nice so if you just used o3 (like me) there's an increase If it's not good I'll just unsubscribe. 100 o3 was enough for me and I used o3 almost exclusively. So I'm not super worried. If it's no longer SOTA and Gemini or Claude are better for everything I'll just cancel.
by enobrev | 2025-08-08 16:00:50+00:00
I think I'd be happier with a standard .agents directory and have all of these in there. I imagine each agent is going to need its own tweaks to get it to work just right with their system prompts, just as Claude already has it's project-specfic .claude directory for hooks and commands and whatnot.

I'd rather .agents/claude or something so we can get these files out of the root directory, which, at least for typescript projects, is already a confetti-like jumble of json files for every little "simple" tool that needs its own configuration file.

I get why package.json isn't enough. But would a .config directory standard really have hurt us so much?
by AnimalMuppet | 2025-08-08 16:02:25+00:00
My take is that it's a bit of a two-way street. "Regular" people resent the elites, yes. But the regular people perceive (correctly) that the elites aren't all that interested in the regular people, either.

If the Democrats had been (and had messaged themselves as being) the party of the working class, they would have drained the swamp that Trump's support comes from. Instead, the message was "if you're working class, and you don't support gay marriage and trans people in sports, and you think that abortion is morally wrong, then you are a moral outcast and we are going to destroy your entire culture." They may have been pro-working-class, but they were pro other things more, and those other things were not big concerns for the working class. And many of the working class took a different stance on the cultural issues than the Democratic leadership.

In fact, the Democrats quit cultivating their base, and so their base walked away from them to someone who at least pretended to care about them.

Nationalist populism harvested that. But there has to be something growing before it can be harvested, and nationalist populism didn't sow the seeds.
by electroly | 2025-08-08 16:02:48+00:00
> Every click is processed server side

On this site, every mouse move and scroll is sent to the server. This is an incredibly chatty site--like, way more than it needs to be to accomplish this. Check the websocket messages in Dev Tools and wave the mouse around. I suspect that can be improved to avoid constantly transmitting data while the user is reading. If/when mobile is supported, this behavior will be murder for battery life.
by bob1029 | 2025-08-08 16:03:36+00:00
> - enables offline/low bandwidth use of your app with automatic state syncing and zero UX degradation

> would you do it?

No, because the "automatic state syncing and zero UX degradation" is a "draw the rest of the owl" exercise wherein the specific implementation details are omitted. Everything is domain specific when it comes to sync-based latency hiding techniques. SSR is domain agnostic.

> low bandwidth requirements

If we are looking at this from a purely information theoretical perspective, the extra 50kb gzipped is starting to feel kind of heavy compared to my ~8kb (plaintext) HTML response. If I am being provided internet via avian species in Africa, I would also prefer the entire webpage be delivered in one simple response body without any dependencies. It is possible to use so little javascript and css that it makes more sense to inline it. SSR enables this because you can simply use multipart form submissions for all of the interactions. The browser already knows how to do this stuff without any help.
by croemer | 2025-08-08 16:03:38+00:00
Looking at LMarena which polymarket uses, I'm not surprised. Based on the little data there is (3k duels, it's possibly worse than Gemini, it lost more to Gemini 2.5 Pro than it won in direct duels). Not sure why the ELO is still higher, possibly GPT5 did more clearly better against bad models, which I don't care about.
by westurner | 2025-08-08 16:03:38+00:00
> "Non-destructive measurement" is an oxymoron. It's not a real measurement if it doesn't destroy the coherence of entanglement.

If there were no loopholes to Bell's theorem I would agree.

> Weak measurements do destroy some entanglement, just not "all" of it.

IDK if that's true. Are all methods of observing probabilistic states destructive forms of measurement?

Does a camera on a candle diminish the candle, or does it take energy (and information) from the "wake" of the field moments or field disturbances?

I don't think that anyone realizes that it's possible to infer photonic phase from intensity (by Huygens-Steiner).
by timr | 2025-08-08 16:03:46+00:00
> The "wrong" answers all have a bit of truth to them, but aren't the whole picture. As with many complex mathematical models, it is difficult to convert the math into English and maintain precisely the correct meaning.

Exactly. The comments in this subthread are turning imprecision in language into all-or-nothing judgments of correctness. (Meanwhile, 80% of the comments advance their own incorrect/imprecise explanations of the same thing...)
by headcanon | 2025-08-08 16:03:48+00:00
I feel like I see this attitude a lot amongst devs: "If everyone just built it correctly, we wouldn't need these bandaids"

To me, it feels similar to "If everyone just cooperated perfectly and helped each other out, we wouldn't need laws/money/government/religion/etc."

Yes, you're probably right, but no that won't happen the way you want to, because we are part of a complex system, and everyone has their very different incentives.

Semantic web was a standard suggested by Google, but unless every browser got on board to break web pages that didn't conform to that standard, then people aren't going to fully follow it. Instead, browsers (correctly in my view) decided to be as flexible as possible to render pages in a best-effort way, because everyone had a slightly different way to build web pages.

I feel like people get too stuck on the "correct" way to do things, but the reality of computers, as is the reality of everything, is that there are lots of different ways to do things, and we need to have systems that are comfortable with handling that.
by zwnow | 2025-08-08 16:03:57+00:00
While I like the idea you'll have to compete with exploitative companies. Won't be easy.

But I just see working world as a net negative to my life. Being forced to work makes me hate it, doesn't matter if it's in a job that allows me to do whatever the f i want or if I had a very strict plan. It's still being forced to do shit I dont want to do in the first place. It's still taking away tons of time from my one life, just so I can afford food.
by blackkettle | 2025-08-08 16:04:01+00:00
It's even more difficult because, while all the benchmarks provide some kind of 'averaged' performance metric for comparison, in my experience most users have pretty specific regular use cases, and pretty specific personal background knowledge. For instance I have a background in ML, 15 years experience in full stack programming, and primarily use LLMs for generating interface prototypes for new product concepts. We use a lot of react and chakraui for that, and I consistently get the best results out of Gemini pro for that. I tried all the available options and settled on that as the best for me and my use case. It's not the best for marketing boilerplate, or probably a million other use cases, but for me, in this particular niche it's clearly the best. Beyond that the benchmarks are irrelevant.
by cognivore | 2025-08-08 16:04:10+00:00
"Why didn't the semantic web happen?"

I have literally been doing we development since their was a web, and the companies I developed for are openly hostile to the idea of putting their valuable, or perceived valuable, information online in a format that could be easily scraped. Information doesn't want to be free, it wants to be paid for. Unless the information shared pulls visitors to the site it doesn't need to be public.
by marcusverus | 2025-08-08 16:04:11+00:00
> 40 million Americans live below the poverty line of $15,000 per year.

Not even close. Census income data is not an accurate measure of poverty, as it excludes all in-kind redistributions (food stamps, HUD, medicaid, head start, etc) AND excludes cash programs like the "refundable tax credits". A more accurate line would be "40 million people would be living in poverty if we weren't already spending >1 Trillion dollars per year on food stamps, HUD, medicaid, and other programs."
by diggan | 2025-08-08 16:04:21+00:00
> Also good and lawful is moving a company somewhere where you'll pay less in taxes

Agree, to an extent. You (the company) should still pay taxes on profits made within the country, before they can move out the company from the country, anything else would be unfair.

> It's simply saying that if our taxes are too high for you we're going to charge you even more to try to stop you from leaving

You can move company for any reason. If you're moving the company because the taxes are high, it sounds perfectly reasonable that you'd pay taxes before moving the company, otherwise it becomes a tax hole. And I don't think they're adding these taxes to stop them from moving, if that was the goal then they would just make it outright illegal. Instead they're trying to make sure you can't avoid paying taxes you should have paid.

> anything other than Germany punishing corporations for leaving.

Almost right, they're trying to stop companies from leaving the country without first paying their fair share of taxes. Once that's done, they're free to move wherever. Sounds reasonable to me, although I don't agree with the exact rates either.
by cloverich | 2025-08-08 16:04:41+00:00
Right but you'll quickly see that analogy doesn't work in another way. With car insurance, its possible I can pay into it my entire life and NEVER have an accident (my current trajectory). I deserve a lower rate!

With health insurance, you are 100% guaranteed to become sick and die, at some point. So the options are either, everyone pays in and it covers everyone, or it only covers a small subset of issues, and everyone gets dropped when they get really sick (the prior state). The latter is definitely cheaper, because its cheaper to let people die / let them suffer than it is to keep them alive / healthy. That is effectively the choice to make.
by 9rx | 2025-08-08 16:04:48+00:00
> more accessible and better docs

Easy now. You might be skilled in documentation, but most developers write docs like they write code. For the most part all you are only going to get the program written twice, once in natural language and once in a programming language. In which case, you could have simply read the code in the first place (or had an LLM explain the code in natural language, if you can't read code for some reason).
by phyzix5761 | 2025-08-08 16:04:59+00:00
The $15k is being transferred from entity A to entity B. Both entities are not spending the $15k so there wouldn't be any effect on inflation. If you printed an extra $15k then that would cause inflation because both entity A and entity B would be spending $15k.

Inflation, which means a steady rise in prices overall, happens only when the total money supply in an economy grows. This increase in money, often called "printing money," can be physical cash or digital money created through lending and government policies. Without more money in the system, if prices go up in one area, they have to go down somewhere else because the total money available limits how much can be spent on everything. Sometimes prices rise temporarily due to supply problems, but that is not true inflation unless there is more money chasing goods. This key idea, highlighted by Milton Friedman in his Nobel Prize winning work, shows that lasting inflation is mainly caused by increases in the money supply.
by fsckboy | 2025-08-08 16:05:32+00:00
depends how quickly the "conversions" or "expressions" of syntax can be altered, and how each of us likes to work.

when we load code into an editor, we get colored syntax highlighting that's done on the fly according to rules which have a syntax of their own. So, perhaps it could be done at that level.

I would prefer if I ran "make syntax" on my repository, and you ran "make syntax" on yours, and we both ran "git semantics" to update the hub. The reason I prefer that is then I could use cli tools I'm used to, like grep, and only have to keep in mind "my syntax" which I would use for all the languages I code in. Then I could write my own helper tools... or, I could also write helper tools that worked on the semantic version and would not need complex parsers of braces, quotes, backslashes, etc.

these ideas are not orginal to me, the language CGOL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGOL was lisp that looked C or algol style. The language CLU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLU_(programming_language) was OOP that was implemented all as calls to member functions, but then there was a layer of syntactic sugar on the surface so you could write x+y and it would turn into .add(x,y), they had identical semantics.
by righthand | 2025-08-08 16:06:37+00:00
Well you’ve noticed a trend:

> I’ve been noticing a trend among developers that use AI: they are increasingly writing and structuring docs in context folders so that the AI powered tools they use can build solutions autonomously and with greater accuracy

To me this means a lot of engineers are spending time maintaining files that help them automate a few things for their job. But sinking all that time into context for an LLM is most likely going to net you efficiency gains only for the projects that the context was originally written for. Other projects might benefit from smaller parts of these files, but if engineers are really doing this then there probably is some efficiency lost in the creation and management of it all.

If I had to guess contrary to your post is that devs aren’t RTFM, but instead asking Llm or web search what a good rule/context/limitation would be and pasting it into a file. In which case the use of Llms is a complexity shift.
by StableAlkyne | 2025-08-08 16:06:44+00:00
> you are going to get the program written twice, once in natural language and once in a programming language.

How is this a bad thing? Personally, I'm not superhuman and more readily understand natural language.

If I have the choice between documentation explaining what a function does and reading the code, I'm going to just read the docs every time. Unless I have reason to think something is screwy or having an intricate understanding is critical to my job.

If you get paid by the hour then go for it, but I don't have time to go line by line through library code.
by davorak | 2025-08-08 16:07:43+00:00
> I've never noticed it being that bad. Annoying? Absolutely! But not that painfully slow.

I have only seen a few self hosted jira, but all of those were mind numbingly slow.

Jira cloud, on the other hand, now compared to 2018 is faster from what I remember, I still call it painful any time I am trying to be quick about something, most of the time though it is only annoying.
by sillyfluke | 2025-08-08 16:07:46+00:00
The test and review cycle is what determines time saved in my view. Since you were satisfied overall I take it that cycle was not too cumbersome?

The parent wrote:

>I imagine this saved me probably 6-10 hours. I’m now reviewing and am going to test etc.

Guessing the time saved prior to reviewing and testing seems premature fron my end.
by southernplaces7 | 2025-08-08 16:07:48+00:00
>That information is also accessible by looking at the parking lot with your human eyes.

There's a blindingly obvious and enormous difference between some random joe the doughnut-grubbing cop watching a Home Depot parking lot to see if certain cars enter it, and digital license plate surveillance data on all cars entering said lot being constantly mass-sent to some federal or corporate-federal database for correlation with reams of other data shared by these same companies and other sources.

Guess where the latter can indeed easily lead? To exactly what you dismiss.
Show HN: Avoid LLM Sycophantry – Two Models Debate Any Claim
by sillypuddy | 2025-08-08 16:08:00+00:00
BotBicker is a site to get two sides on an issue by randomly assigning two LLMs to debate a topic. I built it as a way to explore ideas without getting stuck in an echo chamber, but I"m also using it now to avoid LLMs telling me what they think I want to hear.

It's free, and no login is required, debates start streaming immediately and take a few minutes (opening, rebuttals, 4 rounds on QA, and closings).

You can inject questions into the debate for each side, and at the end, it reveals which model was assigned to each side, and you get proposed follow-up debates to dig deeper into a topic.

It's using thinking models (o3,gemini-2.5-pro,grok-4-0709), I've also tried enabling web search tools. Pros are that the evidence is more detailed and they link to sources, cons are that the debate takes longer.

Curious to get any feedback, especially any other models you'd like to see or tools enabled.

Example debates (phase as a claim, not a question): -California’s state grid regulations are the most effective. -Charlie Chaplin is better than Buster Keaton. -Facial recognition technology should be banned from use in public spaces
by hodgehog11 | 2025-08-08 16:08:40+00:00
Fair enough. I respect the objective of making a better coding assistant, and I use LLMs for this purpose all the time. I think this is why I would give Anthropic a pass on more things than some of the others, since they are clearly interested in that application, while the others seemed almost begrudgingly pushed into it. If others focused on this application early on, the agentic approach probably would have progressed faster.

But I think we do the discipline a disservice by referring to coding assistance as AGI. Also, having them be good enough that they can write their own code autonomously is a nightmare scenario to me, but I know many others don't feel that way.
by WalterBright | 2025-08-08 16:08:41+00:00
In the 80s, I traveled in Germany and visited with friends. I was running my own company, and they asked me how hard it was to set up a business. I replied that it required filling out a one page form and sending $30 to the state.

They were shocked at how easy it was.

I'm not terribly familiar with the business environment in Germany, but I hear things like it's really hard to fire someone.
by exasperaited | 2025-08-08 16:08:48+00:00
Right now if indexes show massive gains it's based in large part on developments in AI, which is a corporate-friendly development predicated on destroying jobs by replacing people with AI tools and human effort with AI effort.

The markets stopped correlating well with consumer sentiment a long time ago but since ChatGPT launched it is easier to assume that if the market is doing well, ordinary people are worse off.

This gulf only gets more obvious over time, and it is one of the key differences between this bubble and the dotcom bubble (the latter revitalised many niche businesses by finding them global markets or a viable business model).
by MarkusQ | 2025-08-08 16:08:50+00:00
Fresh plums right off the tree taste significantly better than the ones you can get in the produce isle, which are in turn better than canned, which are themselves still better than re-hydrated prunes.

In scaling out computation to the masses, we went from locally grown plums that took a lot of work and were only available to a small number of people that had a plum tree or knew someone that had one, to building near magical prune-cornucopia devices that everyone could carry around in their pockets, giving them an effectively unlimited supply of prunes.

LLMs re-hydrate these for us, making them significantly more palatable; if you're used to gnawing dried fruit, they seem amazing.

But there's still a lot of work to be done.