MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by joshmlewis | 2025-08-07 21:47:20+00:00
It does really well at using tool calls to gain as much context as it can to provide thoughtful answers. In this example it did 6! tool calls in the first response while 4.1 did 3 and o3 did one at a time.

https://promptslice.com/share/b-2ap_rfjeJgIQsG
by WJW | 2025-08-07 21:47:30+00:00
> it's not a legal text that you get to angle shoot out of

LOL yes we can and we will. I can state this confidently because the entire agreement is exactly that. A bunch of terms with definitions too vague to matter.

If Trump wants to be an unreliable ally again, then everybody knows he will do so anyway. It'll be based more on what kind of breakfast he had than whether the EU sticks to the terms or not.
by daedrdev | 2025-08-07 21:47:34+00:00
the US systematically taxes and forbids new housing in many ways as local voters desire. Setback requirements, 100K+ hookup costs, stairway standards, density limits, parking minimums and regulations, community input, allowing rejection of new housing despite it following all rules, abuse of environmental regulations (which ends up hurting the environment by blocking density), affordable housing requirements (a tax on each new housing block to fund affordable units on the side) all prevent new housing form being built.
by Guvante | 2025-08-07 21:47:48+00:00
Again censorship means something and "I don't like these people we shouldn't listen to them" is not censorship.

Musk has only had negative feelings except possibly some fringe thoughts (I have never heard a call for government censorship of Musk).

Trump was only asked to be censored when he was assisting a coup. Again not liking and not wanting people to listen is not censorship.
by falcor84 | 2025-08-07 21:48:02+00:00
> Exactly like the internet bubble.

So is this just about a bit of investor money lost? Because the internet obviously didn't decline at all after 2000, and even the investors who lost a lot but stayed in the game likely recouped their money relatively quickly. As I see it, the lesson from the dot-com bust is that we should stay in the game.

And as for GPT-5 being on the exponential growth curve - according to METR, it's well above it: https://metr.org/blog/2025-03-19-measuring-ai-ability-to-com...
by TheAlchemist | 2025-08-07 21:48:19+00:00
Just for fun, here is a great read from a "leading Tesla analyst" 2 years ago "Tesla jumps as analyst predicts $600 billion value boost from Dojo":

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...

Also worth noting that Elon said 2 weeks (!!!) ago on investors call that they expect to have Dojo operating sometime next year at scale equivalent to 100k h100... How people still don't see that this guy is just lying all the time is beyond me.

The ship is sinking very fast folks.
by nullc | 2025-08-07 21:48:52+00:00
> the remark along the lines of "unencrypted police comms let the robbers know when the police are getting close"

Criminals sophisticated enough to do that are usually not going to get caught regardless, encryption or no and are generally savvy enough to not make themselves a serious threat to public comfort and order.

I don't think its a long reach to say that the public may be better off with more ability to monitor police activity at a cost of being weaker against that kind of criminal.
by IshKebab | 2025-08-07 21:48:54+00:00
It's really not. The wing is angled so it pushes the air down. Pushing air down means you are pushing the plane up. A wing can literally be a flat sheet at an angle and it would still fly.

It gets complex if you want to fully model things and make it fly as efficiently as possible, but that isn't really in the scope of the question.

Planes go up because they push air down. Simple as that.
by Retric | 2025-08-07 21:49:03+00:00
> We are talking about the entire planet, as a whole, transitioning to a fully steady-state economy for the entirety of the planet’s future. If you that is anything like what any modern industrialized civilization has experienced or been built around, you are out of your mind.

No we’re not, just recently COVID saw a global drop. The Great Depression and WWII saw a significant decline in the global economy. The idea that such issues are forever behind humanity is laughably absurd.

I’m aware of people writing about such things, but their arguments are no more accurate than the quite recent worrying about overpopulation.
by welcome_dragon | 2025-08-07 21:49:15+00:00
I live in and my wife works for the school district mentioned here.

I think most of us can agree that if kids are using Chromebooks or something provided by the school district they should be held accountable (similar to how if I say something awful in a work chat or email I'll be held accountable.

It is the overreach like you said that is the problem. People thinking that we "must protect the children" at all costs is the problem.

The specific district here has a "no bullying" agenda which, as a father formerly with kids in the district, is not a thing. But they promote it and they are the top performing schools in the state so whatever they can do to pander to parents is what they will do.

There's also a large Protestant population here with mega maga churches, and moms against liberty (real name: Moms for Liberty, but I like to call a spade a spade) is heavily enmeshed in the school system. Whatever the parents say goes, and this is just another example.

I always told my kids: I don't care who is asking - a teacher or the police. The answer to "show us your phone" is always "you need to call my parents". I am so glad my kids are no longer in the school system here.

Many of my friends are teachers, lots in this district, and I have to say the state of education has really gone backwards in general and specifically here
by fmos | 2025-08-07 21:49:18+00:00
In my experience none of the frontier models I tried (o3, Opus 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro) was able to solve Swift concurrency issues, with or without web search. At least not sufficiently for Swift 6 language mode. They don’t seem to have a mental model of the whole concept and how things (actors, isolation, Tasks) need to play together.
by Buttons840 | 2025-08-07 21:50:19+00:00
At some point I'm going to write my comment into a blog. I'd love for there to be some widely recognized labels for the types of jobs, just as a means of shaming how sad the situation is. "Is this a level 2 job, or just a level 1 job?" Maybe it can help us be honest that most of our intellectual capacity as a nation is just wasted because people never have an opportunity to do more than exactly what their boss asks for the day.

Did you know they cut up Einstein's brain to try and learn what made him special? Turns out, one of the things that made Einstein special was that he had an opportunity to do things.

"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould
by olieidel | 2025-08-07 21:50:42+00:00
Pretty much all political parties loudly announce that they'll reduce bureaucracy, but, judging by the outcomes, not much has happened so far.

That being said, it's probably overly simplistic to blame political parties for this - there's a lot of e.g. county/state-level bureaucracy in Germany which gets in the way of making any sort of constructive changes. It's a bit like blaming the CEO of a bloated company for not making it "agile" in a short period of time. Sure, leadership is important, but the reality is, it's.. complicated.
by saltcured | 2025-08-07 21:50:43+00:00
Back in the dark ages, "idiot dots" or "idiot marks" was a phrase I heard for the various text terminal equivalents.

It would cycle through a small number of text values with some kind of backspace/overwrite to keep things localized to where the cursor ought to be.

One version was a variable length ellipses: . .. ... that would grow and reset in place.

Another was an expanding "dot": . o O that would cycle in place as one character.

And the early "spinner" was: - \ | / that would cycle in place as one character. Hmm, not sure this will render properly on HN but it is hyphen, backslash, pipe, forward slash.
by Topfi | 2025-08-07 21:51:11+00:00
> {"id":"openai/gpt-5-chat","canonical_slug":"openai/gpt-5-chat-2025-08-07","hugging_face_id":"","name":"OpenAI: GPT-5 Chat","created":1754587837,"description":"GPT-5 Chat is designed for advanced, natural, multimodal, and context-aware conversations for enterprise applications.","context_length":400000,"architecture":{"modality":"text+image->text","input_modalities":["file","image","text"],"output_modalities":["text"],"tokenizer":"GPT","instruct_type":null},"pricing":{"prompt":"0.00000125","completion":"0.00001","request":"0","image":"0","audio":"0","web_search":"0","internal_reasoning":"0","input_cache_read":"0.000000125"},"top_provider":{"context_length":400000,"max_completion_tokens":128000,"is_moderated":true},"per_request_limits":null,"supported_parameters":["max_tokens","response_format","seed","structured_outputs"]},

If you look at the JSON you linked, it does not enforce BYOK for openai/gpt-5-chat, nor for openai/gpt-5-mini or openai/gpt-5-nano.
by nullc | 2025-08-07 21:51:15+00:00
No current ability to track trunked radio units, though arguably thats 'just a software problem'.

I have one and have found it to be quite easy to hunt down ham repeaters that you can get to transmit more or less non-stop... but relatively hard to use for intermittent transmitters.

I need to see if I can figure out how to plub in my GNSS compass output because inferring orientation from motion requires an awful lot of moving around and is less reliable than I'd like.
by ComplexSystems | 2025-08-07 21:51:45+00:00
I am not in biology, and this is the first time I have ever heard anyone advocate for freedom of knowledge to such an extent that we should make biological weapons recipes available.

I note that other commenters above are suggesting these things can easily be made in a garage, and I don't know how to square that with your statement about "equating knowledge with ability" above.
by philipkglass | 2025-08-07 21:51:56+00:00
There's nothing wrong with it, but you have to understand the differences between different user groups to know which limitations are relevant to your own use cases. "It doesn't follow instructions" could mean "it won't pretend to be a horny elf" or "it hallucinates fields outside the JSON schema I specified"; the latter is much more of a problem for my uses.
by vlucas | 2025-08-07 21:53:39+00:00
Crime rates are largely inaccurate since 2021: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rate...

Politicians and certain news sources are of course taking advantage of this, reporting how much crime is "down" when all anecdotal evidence in front of our faces shows the opposite. Crime is not down - there is just a huge reporting gap in the data.
by joshmlewis | 2025-08-07 21:53:55+00:00
It seems to be trained to use tools effectively to gather context. In this example against 4.1 and o3 it used 6 in the first turn in a pretty cool way (fetching different categories that could be relevant). Token use increases with that kind of tool calling but the aggressive pricing should make that moot. You could probably get it to not be so tool happy with prompting as well.

https://promptslice.com/share/b-2ap_rfjeJgIQsG
by shortrounddev2 | 2025-08-07 21:55:10+00:00
There's something Freudian about the idea that the more you can customize porn, the more popular it is. That, despite the impression that "all men want one thing", it turns out that men all want very different and very oddly specific things. Imbuing somrthing with a "magical" quality that doesnt exist is the origin of the term "fetish". Its not about the raw attractive preference for a particular hair color; its a belief in the POWER of that hair color.
by apatheticonion | 2025-08-07 21:55:53+00:00
God I miss Windows XP. I feel like, with a few small changes, the Windows XP GUI would be the most solid desktop experience you could possibly have.

Throw in POSIX compliance/bash, first party Linux compatibility (not WSL), window snapping, dark mode, maybe a spotlight-like search and a few enhancements to the file manager and you'd have a pretty much perfect desktop/productivity OS.

Why can't we have nice things?
by risho | 2025-08-07 21:55:55+00:00
is there a way to get it to display more information? its stuck not doing anything and i cant tell if that's because it timed out or it is running a script or it is thinking or what is even happening. sometimes it just does things without even giving any feedback at all. i dont know what it is thinking or what it is trying to do and i cant really see the output of the terminal commands it is running. it just pauses every once in a while and asks to run a command.

is there a way to make it more verbose?
by rstuart4133 | 2025-08-07 21:55:55+00:00
I'm not the OP, but I expect it the same issues that have stopped me from using passkeys now.

His reply does give one aspect of it: passkey's are fragile. To be secure, they can't be copied around or written down on a piece of paper in case you forget, so when the hardware they are stored on dies, or you lose your Yubikey or is as he described the PC re-imaged, all the your logins die. That will never fly, and it's why passkeys are having a hard time being adopted despite them being better in every other way.

Passkey's solution to that is to make them copyable, but not let the user copy them. Instead someone else owns them, someone like Google or Apple, and they will do the copy to devices they approve of. That will only be to devices they trust to keep them secure I guess. But surprise, surprise, the only devices Apply will trust are ones sold to you by Apple. The situation is the same for everyone else, so as far as I know bitwarden will not let you copy a bitwarden key to anyone else. Bitwarden loudly proclaims they lets you export all your data, including TOTP - but that doesn't apply to passkeys.

So, right now, having a passkey means locking yourself into proprietary companies ecosystem. If they company goes belly up, or Google decides you've transgressed one of the many pages of terms, or you decide to move to the Apple ecosystem again you lose all your logins. And again, that won't fly.

The problem is not technological, it's mostly social. It's not difficult to imagine a ecosystem that does allow limited, and secure transfer and/or copying of passkeys. DNS has such a system for example. Anyone can go buy a DNS name, then securely move it between all registrars. There could be a similar system for passkeys.

Passkeys have most of the bits in place. You need attestation, so whoever is relying on the key knows it's secure. The browsers could police attestation as they do now for CA's. We have secure devices that can be trusted to not leak leak passkeys in the form of phones, smartwatches, and hardware tokens. But we don't have a certification system for such devices. And we we don't have is a commercial ecosystem of companies willing to sell you safe passkey storage that allows copying to other such companies. On the technological front, we need standards for such storage, standards that ensure the companies holding the passkeys for you couldn't leak the secrets in the passkeys even if they were malicious.

We are at a frustrating point of being 80% of the way there, but the remaining 20% looks to be harder than the first 80%.
by kbolino | 2025-08-07 21:55:59+00:00
There are at least as many ways to pepper as there were to salt before salts became integral to the definition of a good KDF. To wit:

KDF(password, salt XOR pepper, ...) KDF(password + pepper, salt, ...) KDF(password, AES128(salt, pepper), ...) KDF(HMAC-SHA256(password, pepper), salt, ...) ...

And no, you cannot always pepper. To use a pepper effectively, you have to have a secure out-of-band channel to share the pepper. For a lot of webapps, this is as simple as setting some configuration variable. However, for certain kinds of distributed systems, the pepper would have to be shared in either the same way as the salt, or completely publicly, defeating its purpose. Largely these are architectural/design issues too (and in many cases, bcrypt is also the wrong choice, because a KDF is the wrong choice). I already alluded to the Okta bcrypt exploit, though I admit I did not fully dig into the details.

The HMAC-SHA256 construction I showed above, and similar techniques, accomplishes both transforming the input and peppering the hash. However, the others don't transform the input at all or, in one case, transform it in a way even worse for bcrypt's use.
by nathan_douglas | 2025-08-07 21:56:08+00:00
> While the between-species performance difference they report is apparent in their data, so too is a large difference in practice on their task: Ayumu had many sessions of practice on their task before terminal performances were measured; their human subjects had none. The present report shows that when two humans are given practice in the Inoue and Matsuzawa (2007) memory task, their accuracy levels match those of Ayumu.

Hmm.
by tptacek | 2025-08-07 21:56:59+00:00
I think that was truer 15 years ago, but every criminal now carries a police scanner with them (in the form a phone), and the residents in my area who most avidly follow police scanners are not the most technical people in the area.

(Having said all that, our muni voted against encrypting radios; we lost 2-1 in a vote with the 2 other munis we share dispatch with).

Unless you're talking about criminals doing traffic analytic RF attacks, in which case, I agree, who cares?
by rollcat | 2025-08-07 21:57:23+00:00
> I'm curious how long until most users just don't care if their CPU has native x86 support.

None of the machines I regularly use are x86-native, this has been the case for 4 years now. I only care because deploying x86 containers is still a thing.

I might be getting a gaming PC at some point, but there are very few titles I'm actually really interested in.
by hnlmorg | 2025-08-07 21:57:29+00:00
For every example where someone over predicted the time it would take for a breakthrough, there are at least 10 examples of people being too optimistic with their predictions.

And with AGI, you also have the likes of Sam Altman making up bullshit claims just to pump up the investment into OpenAI. So I wouldn’t take much of their claims seriously either.

LLMs are a fantastic invention. But they’re far closer to SMS text predict than they are to generalised intelligence.

Though what you might see is OpenAI et al redefine the term “AGI” just so they can say they’ve hit that milestone, again purely for their own financial gain.
by godelski | 2025-08-07 21:58:40+00:00
Because time marches on and with it things change.

You could maybe accomplish this if you could fit all new information into context or with cycles of compression but that is kinda a crazy ask. There's too much new information, even considering compression. It certainly wouldn't allow for exponential growth (I'd expect sub linear).

I think a lot of people greatly underestimate how much new information is created every day. It's hard if you're not working on any research and seeing how incremental but constant improvement compounds. But try just looking at whatever company you work for. Do you know everything that people did that day? It takes more time to generate information than process information so that's on you side, but do you really think you could keep up? Maybe at a very high level but in that case you're missing a lot of information.

Think about it this way: if that could be done then LLM wouldn't need training or tuning because you could do everything through prompting.
by whoknowsidont | 2025-08-07 21:59:11+00:00
Yeah it's lived experience vs perception for me. .NET developers have always, ALWAYS loved to tout how great things are but there's a reason anyone even slightly outside the MS-sphere simply chooses not to use it.

Because it's not that great, really.

The performance isn't that great in real-world scenarios (remember when they had to lie, in that "one" incident)? Even today the tests look NOTHING like actual idiomiatic .NET code.

Secondly, .NET developers tend to target a particular set of DevEx that I don't personally understand but that's not the problem, the problem is the DevEx has end-user effects; they simply just don't give a shit.

Anything past a simple B2B crud app in .NET is basically an uphill battle in real companies. It never works out, it's always more complicated than it needs to be.

But hey, no one gets fired for choosing MS. So here we are.

If you drop the religious zealotry, there's simply not a lot left.
by tialaramex | 2025-08-07 21:59:17+00:00
"Cousin" is a vague claim. A parent is 50% similarity, a simple first cousin is typically 12.5% but may be higher if they're also related on the other side (e.g. Einstein married a woman whose parents were, respectively, a sibling of one parent and a cousin of the other, that's a lot of shared DNA). But second cousins may be only 2-3%.

So there's a huge gap between "Your mum and dad both have twins, and there was a double marriage, so, she's your first cousin twice over" and "She's your great-aunt's child's youngest" and yet you might get told both people are your "cousin" for lack of convenient terminology.
by russellbeattie | 2025-08-07 21:59:23+00:00
This is the key - right now each new model has had countless resources dedicated to training, then they are more or less set in stone until the next update.

These big models don't dynamically update as days pass by - they don't learn. A personal assistant service may be able to mimic learning by creating a database of your data or preferences, but your usage isn't baked back into the big underlying model permanently.

I don't agree with "in our lifetimes", but the difference between training and learning is the bright red line. Until there's a model which is able to continually update itself, it's not AGI.

My guess is that this will require both more powerful hardware and a few more software innovations. But it'll happen.
by nullc | 2025-08-07 21:59:34+00:00
More codec development work is done outside of patent-centric organizations by a significant margin. Just like any other domain technological/communication standard the most significant impetuous comes from the drive to make superior products.

Work inside patent driven development groups also suffers substantial complexity bloat because there is a huge incentive for each participant to get a patentable component into the standard in order to benefit from cross-licensing. Often these 'improvements' are insignificant or even a net loss (the cost of the bitstream to signal them on is greater than their improvement over any credible collection of material).
by bediger4000 | 2025-08-07 22:00:23+00:00
It's good that we in the USA finally found the source of all truth in Trump. I mean, can you imagine the fooforaw that Biden or Obama would have caused? They definitely would have made wrong decisions in this situation. Markets would have responded poorly, the press would be all over it, congress would react aggressively. But now that we've got Trump, we, and all the oligarchs, can stay calm. Congress doesn't lift a finger, the press is calm.
by markasoftware | 2025-08-07 22:00:47+00:00
this is what i don't get. How can GPT-5 ace obscure AIME problems while simultaneously falling into the trap of the most common fallacy about airfoils (despite there being copious training data calling it out as a fallacy)? And I believe you that in some context it failed to understand this simple rearrangement of terms; there's sometimes basic stuff I ask it that it fails at too.