MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by 9rx | 2025-08-18 20:04:34+00:00
The best predictor of a crash is seeing money start to flow into another investment. Eventually the masses notice, get "I want that instead!" fever, at which point the crash occurs.

If next in line was obvious the crash would have already occurred, so I cannot say for sure, but I suspect that AI is still at this point the "must have" investment. When a crash is imminent you start to hear rumblings about the next big thing and I'm not hearing them right now.
by zzo38computer | 2025-08-18 20:05:03+00:00
> It is completely unrealistic to make a scraper that doesn't run JavaScript and wait for the page to "settle down" because so many pages, even blogs, are just entirely client-side rendered SPAs.

I specifically want a search engine that does not run JavaScript, so that it only finds documents that do not require JavaScripts to display the text being searched. (This is not the same as excluding everything that has JavaScripts; some web pages use JavaScripts but can still display the text even without it.)

> Meanwhile Anubis is absolutely blocking plenty of real humans, with the author for example telling people to turn on cookies so that Anubis can do its job [4]. I don't think Anubis is blocking anything other than humans and Message's link preview generator.

These are some of the legitimiate problems with Anubis (and this is not the only way that you can be blocked by Anubis). Cloudflare can have similar problems, although its working is a bit different so it is not exactly the same working.
by WorldMaker | 2025-08-18 20:05:14+00:00
Yeah, Level 1 charging is way too easily overlooked in the US. A lot of US parking lots could add simple Level 1 outlets to most lamp posts and do a lot, easily, for EV charging. (Most traditional halogen lamps were nearly Level 2 circuits, prior to recent switches to LEDs. If the LED transition had been timed a little different there might be way more L2 chargers "easily" installed in parking lots.)

A bit of an aside: I think part of the public perception problem is calling Level 1 "chargers" and not just "outlets". At so many points in our discourse, especially in the US, we've let car manufacturers sell us this idea of "gas-pump-like capital-C Charger" as something bulky and "hard/expensive to install", but really most EVs just need more wall outlets, classic, boring electrical outlets. Sure, the US can blame Edison that we don't have Level 2 as a default outlet and our cheapest/easiest outlets are Level 1, yet still we need to stop underestimating L1.

The other thing beyond "don't discount L1 as a reliable way to charge" (slow and steady charges the race car, eh) is "don't discount the power of destination chargers". Everywhere you park is a possible place for a charger. If you can't get one easily at home, maybe your employer can build one. Your grocery store and your church or bar or pickle ball court or other third place can build one. (Especially Level 1. Outdoor outlets have always been a thing, moving them a little closer to parking spaces shouldn't always be a big deal. Boring old electrical outlets are "everywhere" already, we just aren't always yet in the mode of thinking about them, their ubiquity, and how they can charge our cars, while we eat or shop or work or hang out or play or sleep.)
by tolmasky | 2025-08-18 20:05:32+00:00
If the rest of my post is accurate, that's not the actual concern, right? Since I'm not sure if the check itself is meaningful. From what is described in the documentation [1], I think the practical effect of this system is to block users running old mobile browsers or running browsers like Opera Mini in third world countries where data usage is still prohibitively expensive. Again, the off-the-shelf scraping tools [2] will be unaffected by any of this, since they're all built on top of Puppeteer, and additionally are designed to deal with the modern SPA web which is (depressingly) more or less isomorphic to a "proof-of-work".

If you are open to jumping on a call in the next week or two I'd love to discuss directly. Without going into a ton of detail, I originally started looking into this because the group I'm working with is exploring potentially funding a free CDN service for open source projects. Then this AI scraper stuff started popping up, and all of a sudden it looked like if these reports were true it might make such a project no longer economically realistic. So we started trying to collect data and concretely nail down what we'd be dealing with and what this "post-AI" traffic looks like.

As such, I think we're 100% aligned on our goals. I'm just trying to understand what's going on here since none of the second-order effects you'd expect from this sort of phenomenon seem to be present, and none of the places where we actually have direct data seem to show this taking place (and again, Cloudflare's data seems to also agree with this). But unless you already own a CDN, it's very hard to get a good sense of what's going on globally. So I am totally willing to believe this is happening, and am very incentivized to help if so.

EDIT: My email is my HN username at gmail.com if you want to schedule something.

1. https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/design/how-anubis-works

2. https://apify.com/apify/puppeteer-scraper
by frogblast | 2025-08-18 20:05:36+00:00
My prius (2006 model) finally had the traction battery (NiMh) start to loose modules at about 250K miles. It was clearly getting weaker, but drivable at that time. Then Covid hit, and it sat for 2 months without being driven / charge cycled. That pushed it over the edge.

That isn't predictive at all of NMC or LFP chemistries though (and I'm not going through multiple charge cycles per drive), but a fun anecdote. It was an entertaining project opening up the battery pack and identifying/replacing the bad modules.

In the end, other parts of the car were dying too, and the final straw was California's refusal to allow aftermarket catalytic converter replacements, and the Toyota's price (with no competition) was more than the vehicle was worth.

So far my two EVs, both NMC chemistry (Kia and Rivian) are at 80,000 and 30,000 miles respectively, with no noticeable degradation.
by keeda | 2025-08-18 20:05:39+00:00
One thing I recently realized is that the evolution and discussions of AI very closely mirrors those of offshoring, when offshoring first started off. Back then too discussions were about:

1) The quality of work produced being sub-par, with many instances of expensive, failed projects, leading to predictions of the death of offshoring.

2) Unwillingness of offshore teams to clarify or push back on requirements.

3) Local job displacement.

What people figured out soon enough was that offshoring was not as easy as "throwing some high-level requirements over the wall and getting back a fully functional project." Instead the industry realized that there needed to be technically-competent, business domain-savvy counterparts in the client company that would work closely with the offshore team, setting concrete and well-scoped milestones, establishing best practices, continously monitoring progress, providing guidance, removing blockers, and encouraging pushback on requirements, even revisiting them if needed.

Offshore teams on their part became culturally more comfortable with questioning requirements and engaging in 2-way discssions. Eventually offshore companies built up the business domain knowledge such that client companies could outsource higher- and higher-level work.

All successful outsourcing projects followed this model, and it spread quickly across the industry, which was why the predictions of the death of offshoring never materialized. In fact the practice has only continued to grow.

It's very interesting how much the same strategies apply to working with AI. A lot of the "how to code effectively with AI" articles basically offer the exact same advice.

On the job displacement side, however, the story may be very different.

With outsourcing, job displacement didn't turn out to be much of a concern because a) by delegating lower-level grunt work to offshore teams, local employees were then freed up to do higher-level, more innovative work; and b) until software has "eaten the whole world" the amount of new work is essentially unbounded.

With AI though, the job displacement could be much more real and long-lasting. The pace at which AI has improved is mind-boggling. Now the technically-competent, business-domain savvy expert could potentially get all the outsourced work done by themselves through an army of agents with very little human support, either local or offshore. Until the rest of the workforce can upskill themselves to the level of "technically-competent, business domain-savvy expert" their job is at risk.

"How many such roles does the world need?", and "How can junior employees get to that level without on-the-job experience?", are very open questions.
by ndriscoll | 2025-08-18 20:05:47+00:00
There's also the effect that new musicians are competing for attention with an ever growing catalog of top artists. I already have hundreds of CDs, so I'm not particularly inclined to go find whatever the 2025 version of the Smashing Pumpkins is because I already have the old one. Looking at this year's Billboard 200, I don't think I'd be interested in SZA or Lil Baby. Bowie died almost 10 years ago. I guess I'm good with what I've got.
by tolmasky | 2025-08-18 20:06:51+00:00
From the first paragraph in my comment:

> You'd see them taking some additional steps to combat this. They haven't. Their CDN handles it just fine. They don't even both telling AI bots to just download the tarballs they specifically make available for this exact use case.

Yes, they do. But they aren't in a rush to tell AI companies this, because again, this is not actually a super meaningful amount of traffic increase for them.
by ethbr1 | 2025-08-18 20:07:13+00:00
There are 3 functional futures for AI coding assistants, depending on what they provide, and all of which support order of magnitude different pricing:

1. Vibe coder's wet dream = generates working technical product direct from product owner requirements = can be priced up to 99% of senior developer compensation (incl benefits / taxes)

2. Productivity multiplier = fills in gaps, but requires technical architecture and planning knowledge = can be priced up to 99% of junior developer compensation (incl benefits / taxes)

3. Macro on steroids = ignorantly expands code or performs basic tasks, but screws things up frequently enough, both obviously and subtly, to still benefit from even a junior dev driving it = can be priced up to 99% of team size reduction

Technically, even if we're only in #3 (and I think there's a strong case to be made that we're there), these solutions are drastically underpriced according to human labor decreasing (e.g. axing the equivalent FTE hours it would have taken to write test coverage).

* And don't forget the number they're replacing from the company perspective isn't {salary} but {salary+benefits+taxes}, which can be substantially greater
by skeaker | 2025-08-18 20:07:33+00:00
That makes the very silly assumption that the default is to boycott everything, which is really not the case. People at large definitely still default to purchasing things first, for all sorts of reasons from just feeling that it is moral to the service being convenient to just enjoying and wanting to support the work itself. This is self evident in the fact that boycotts essentially never actually kill anything because the majority still favors paying.
by t-3 | 2025-08-18 20:08:34+00:00
It's nothing to do with morals or conscience, pure self interest incites me to to take action and buy physical copies or official ebooks or collector's editions or CDs or lossless digital releases of works I first consume pirated. I want creators I like to make more stuff. I feel good looking at my bookshelf filled with things I enjoy. I don't like throwing out or donating tons of books every year because they're no good and I couldn't tell until I bought and read them.
by karmakaze | 2025-08-18 20:08:38+00:00
On a hypothetical 70b q4 model, the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 (128GB memory with 96GB allocated to iGPU) delivers ~2–5 tokens/sec, slightly trailing the M4 Max’s ~3–7 tokens/sec. The next generation for AMD I expect can easily catch up to or surpass the M4 Max.

A pair of MaxSun/Intel Arc B60 48GB GPUs (dual 24GB B580's on one card) for $1200 each also outperforms the M4 Max.
by mothballed | 2025-08-18 20:09:38+00:00
Illinois lawyers [0] and child's rights policy thinkers [1] had evaluated it to mean a child under 14 can not be 'reasonably' left alone, up until 2023. It looks like you are correct and they updated it recently under an amended 705 ILCS 405/2-3 in January 2023.

Unless your child was born in the past couple years or following legislation, I think most people don't realize this, as even most the law firms still have the old '14' as the min age on their neglect pages. So you are correct with the asterisk that it glosses over that it was the case up until the past couple years and you are updating us on a new development.

>Your opinion on "CPS" in Illinois (I assume you meant DCFS and not Chicago Public Schools) is based on not understanding a single paragraph of the law that is written to be readable by the general public.

My opinion is based on what legal advice I got when I last researched it a few years ago. A lot of Illinois law is read in the context of common law precedent that makes the actual text less reliable. Mea Culpa.

[0] https://www.mkfmlaw.com/blog/at-what-age-can-a-child-be-left...

[1] https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-has-highest-home-alo...
by mindcrime | 2025-08-18 20:09:41+00:00
I thought that is what you mean when you said "a lot of interesting bits about the history of the development of neural networks (including backpropagation) can be found in the book Talking Nets", that there is some relevant reference to backprop which is missing here in the linked article.

Nah, I wasn't trying to imply that that book had anything more than the article, at least in regards to the back-prob question specifically. Just pointing it out as one more good resource for this kind of historical perspective.

I don't really understand your negativity here, and what you are reading into my comment. I never asked you to do a research project? I just thought you might know some other references which are not in the article. If you don't, fine.

No worries. I may be reacting more to a general HN meme than to you in particular. There's a certain brand of pedantry and obsessive nit-picking that is all too common here IMO. It grates on my nerves, so if I ever seem a little salty, it's probably because I thought somebody was doing that thing. It's all good. My apologies for the argumentative tone earlier.

Schmidhuber always try to be very careful to be very complete and exhaustive cite everything there is on some topic.

Agreed. That's one reason I don't get why people are always busting on Jurgen. For the most part, it seems that he can back up the claims he makes, and then some. I've heard plenty of people complain about him, but I'm not sure any of them have ever been able to state any particular sense in which he is actually wrong about anything. :-)
by tatjam | 2025-08-18 20:10:16+00:00
I wonder how could you keep the LLM from going bonkers as the game progresses? I have a feeling it's possibly better to re-create the prompts after some time, and have the LLM work more like one of those "reasoning models" with the game as something it can interact with.

Otherwise you run into the risk of "TOTAL NUCLEAR FINANCIAL LEGAL DESTRUCTION" ;)
by Izkata | 2025-08-18 20:10:43+00:00
Brand recognition.

About two or three years ago my old robot vacuum was finally dying and I did a lot of on and off searching for what was out there. When I started looking almost every competitor was better quality and features than what iRobot had, for around the same price, and they were just starting to play catch-up.

I don't know how much they've improved in the past year, though.
by tolmasky | 2025-08-18 20:11:12+00:00
> I specifically want a search engine that does not run JavaScript, so that it only finds documents that do not require JavaScripts to display the text being searched. (This is not the same as excluding everything that has JavaScripts; some web pages use JavaScripts but can still display the text even without it.)

Sure... but off-topic, right? AI companies are desperate for high quality data, and unlike search scrapers, are actually not supremely time sensitive. That is to say, they don't benefit from picking up on changes seconds after they are published. They essentially take a "snapshot" and then do a training run. There is no "real-time updating" of an AI model. So they have all the time in the world to wait for a page to reach an ideal state, as well as all the incentive in the world to wait for that too. Since the data effectively gets "baked into the model" and then is static for the entire lifetime of the model, you over-index on getting the data, not getting fast, or cheap, or whatever.
by stetrain | 2025-08-18 20:11:21+00:00
Battery tech is ready for general use. Over 20% of cars being sold in California are EVs now, and over 90% in Norway.

Slow chargers are pretty low-tech devices, just a 208V-277V circuit with a device that handles switching, ground fault check, and potentially payment. These are going to be cheaper and easier to install and maintain than fast chargers, and I think adding them to workplaces is going to be easier than covering individual apartments.

That certainly won't cover all needs, which is why I listed other alternatives as well. The answer will be a blend of these solutions where each makes sense.
by GuinansEyebrows | 2025-08-18 20:11:33+00:00
you're putting in a lot of work (well, i guess you're farming out the work to a third party service) to prove a portion of your argument with a metric that ignores inflation (including whatever you want to call what's happening right now). why? why is it so important to you to try to dispel a notion that is nearly-universally shared among scholars, experts and those actually experiencing ill effects due to the rise in costs of living compared to their income?
by insane_dreamer | 2025-08-18 20:11:36+00:00
I could be wrong but I disagree with the premise of the article. One thing that both Apple and Amazon are extremely good is hardware (consumer, and cloud-infra, respectively). And ultimately what matters to user is going to be the hardware that properly integrates AI capabilities, ideally with some inference models running locally. We've already seen that multiple companies are able to produce high quality models, so the model is not a winner-take-all game. How many companies are able to compete with Apple on mobile and laptop hardware? That's a much harder game.
by Spunkie | 2025-08-18 20:12:20+00:00
I mean no, good players know how and care to get into populated and well moderated servers and absolutely will find the appeals process and get through it. I speak from experience... I funded, ran, and moderated private/community/dedicated servers across many games.

Alternatively people adding servers to "their shit list" are the exact type of players server admins don't want on their servers anyways. Those morons can go play on the unmodderated corporate servers with all the hackers and leave the rest of us in peace.
by random3 | 2025-08-18 20:13:16+00:00
I got that from your first post. As with every game context a win-win is only possible in non-zero sum with a relatively balanced benefit. It's clear that you can see the value you get and maybe even quantify it. However you can't quantify the other side, nor the degree to which its win will affect your win on a relatively short term (a few years tops).

Two things come to mind

The less relevant one, is that as a coder, once there's a good enough model (good enough = benefit/cost) your "win" will get to 0. And your contribution to what will make that win 0 is going to be non-0, but you're not going to get anything.

The more relevant one, longer term, is that you may end up being predictable (a good model of yourself) that will be able to extract value out of you personally forever, again without anything for you to gain.

Both may be argued against, or that they are unavoidable, regardless. But in either case, your "price point" has been arbitrarily chosen, at least from your perspective. I.e. it's not an informed choice on your end. A bit like the Monty Hall problem, you chose a door with little information. The act of sticking to the door you chose is why you're naive.
by baq | 2025-08-18 20:13:27+00:00
Perhaps, but it’s a bit moot once you have the book and a reader which opens it. Anna’s archive is a better service because it doesn’t matter what reader you’ve got and the content is there. It was the same with Netflix when it was the only streaming service: it had everything easily accessible.

Gabe figured it out eons ago, steam is the proof.
by nativeit | 2025-08-18 20:13:28+00:00
It'd be a lot easier if the companies behind these products gave users (paid or otherwise) literally any mechanism to opt-out. It drives me mad that YouTube provides a "not interested" button, but refuses to respect my explicit wishes, even as a YouTube Premium subscriber. It wouldn't even be quite so bad if they just didn't bother to ask, at least then I could imagine that such a mechanism would be too complicated or something, but they bother to ask--and then they comply for the remainder of my session. Just make it permanent, you absolute ghouls.
by zzrrt | 2025-08-18 20:13:56+00:00
> So you think it's true too. Glad we agree on what happened.

I don't agree. I said "may have", not "did". I was extending a little benefit of the doubt, but I regret it now that I see how little good faith you're offering.

> They deserved prison time for rioting in the capital, but not years.

Maybe I could be persuaded in some cases, if there was a thorough public argument for it, written by lawyers and others who understand the legal system and examined the cases. I'm open to reading such a thing. I doubt it would ever be released, since Trump's own legal experts (JD Vance and Pam Bondi) were claiming he wouldn't release violent offenders and using phrases like "case-by-case basis", right up until Trump pardoned/commuted every single one with no rationalization beyond saying it was unjust and long enough. Trump doesn't give a shit about the nuances of the law, how bad their crimes were, or how much time they should serve, he just wants to be a king who punishes his enemies and rewards his supporters. To him, a single day in prison is too long for somebody that was loyal to him.

The fact that almost all were pardons rather than commutations, seems to undercut your idea that they did commit crimes but deserve leniency. I'm not an expert, but my impression is that if Trump felt the same way as you put it, he would have commuted them, but not pardoned. Instead, he pardoned, because it is the bigger favor to his supporters and more absolutely rejects the idea of wrongdoing by him or them.

If oversentencing was indeed the reason, I assume the current administration will also be this generous about any anti-Trump rioters who only, like, broke some windows, and threw some rocks or sandwiches or pepper-sprayed cops, even if anyone dies by accident. A few months in prison ought to be enough, then; it's only consistent.

It's also strange that the party of fiscal responsibility, law and order, and accepting the consequences of one's actions, is just going to let Trump write off millions or more in property damages that taxpayers will now have to pay[1][2], instead of holding criminals accountable. It's almost like they have no principles at all, other than power and "owning the libs."

[1] https://www.axios.com/2025/03/26/trump-jan-6-rioters-compens... [2] https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/pre...