MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by pbhjpbhj | 2025-07-24 08:20:42+00:00
It looks like the specific phrase form is blocked in Google Search's AI header. It seems most likely that this was because it was being gamed. Searching "is it safe to throw used car batteries into the ocean" gets links to the meme.

All the ML tools seem to clearly say it's not safe, nor ethical - if you ask about throwing batteries in the sea then Google Search's summary is what you'd expect, completely inline with other tools.

If a large swathe of people choose to promote a position that is errant, 'for the memes' or whatever reason, then you're going to break tools that rely on broad agreement of many sources.

It seems like Google did the right thing here - but it also looks like a manual fix/intervention. Do Google still claim not to do that? Is there a watchdog routine that finds these 'attacks' and mitigates the effects?
by derbOac | 2025-07-24 08:21:12+00:00
> understand that systems are complex.

For what it's worth, this is not my experience. My experience is that there's often an attempt to assign blame to a small component of the system. My sense is it is ultimately to reduce effort or embarrassment, to blame whatever can be "fixed" with less work or indictment of "higher level" components. So the littler or less well-integrated person or more minor policy gets blamed over management or administration, or core operating policies, or culture, because the latter are harder to change or involve more admission of fundamental problems that could cause reputational harm.

It's uncommon in my experience to acknowledge systemic problems or problems with very fundamental policies.

My only criticism of the piece is that sometimes you can identify a root cause, but it's at a very high level of generality and/or involves an error of omission, which is harder to identify than an error of commission. For example, a policy or protocol that isn't present that could be.
by ethbr1 | 2025-07-24 08:21:21+00:00
> everyone will see a fight to be the first one to be accessed to get an opportunity to gaslight the agent into their view of the world

In this model, only monetizable content will be generated though.

As much as we abhor what advertising has done to the web, at least it’s independent of content: pair quality content with ads, make money.

In the brave new AI search world, only content which itself is directly monetizable will be created. E.g. astroturf ads
by ddeck | 2025-07-24 08:21:27+00:00
Not sure about the US, but the Japanese didn't stop focusing on hybrid development. More than half of all sales in Japan are hybrids, whereas electric is only a few percent [1].

Honda even recently announced that they're scaling back on electric to focus on hybrids:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/japans...

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-19/hybrid-ca...
Ask HN: Other Names for "Artificial" Intelligence?
by Bluestein | 2025-07-24 08:22:02+00:00
Some idiot or another is going to sooner or later attempt to "rename" the technology, publicly, and might get away with it too ...

... were it not for us pesky kids, so ...

... let's beat him to it: What is your preferred/more adequate name for AI?
by kragen | 2025-07-24 08:22:16+00:00
Well, suppose you have two countries at war, say, Burnia and Hevonia. They each produce a million autonomous weapons.

Burnia sends their million autonomous weapons to kill the million people they judge are most crucial to Hevonia's war effort, prioritizing Hevonia's political leadership and military officers.

Hevonia, meanwhile, sends their million autonomous weapons to destroy Burnia's autonomous weapons, when they can find them, but not to attack any humans.

Who wins the war?

I think Burnia does, because even if Hevonia's weapons are 99% effective, Hevonia's government has still lost its top ten thousand people, including all of their military officers, while Burnia has only lost half a billion dollars. That's going to make it impossible for Hevonia to keep fighting. And I think 50% effective is more likely.
by ddeck | 2025-07-24 08:23:04+00:00
I think you meant capacitors. Resistors would just dissipate the energy as heat.

edit: Thanks for the correction. They do indeed use resistors and just dump the energy as heat. Unfortunate.

Hopefully this will change as supercaps continue to improve. Maxwell tech's modules are already used in light rail, and looks like some work towards smaller locomotives in Switzerland here:

https://www.osti.gov/etdeweb/servlets/purl/20823697
by aspenmayer | 2025-07-24 08:23:30+00:00
The anger is misdirected, as it is a reaction to being confronted with one’s own ignorance and then shooting the messenger. In the hypothetical, that is. I don’t look at it as a lie exactly on the part of AI, but a failure of the user to actually check first party authoritative sources for that kind of info before showing up and acting entitled to a bill of goods you were never sold for any price. Even if it were free, you would still have to show up and claim a badge or check in, at which point they are free to present you with terms and conditions while you attend the event. I think the story says more about users and how they are marketed to than it does about AI and its capabilities. I think AI will probably get better faster than people will get used to the new post-AI normal, and maybe even after that. A lot of market participants seem to want that to happen, so some growing pains are normal with these kinds of disruptive technologies.
by doublerabbit | 2025-07-24 08:24:18+00:00
While this rubs one the wrong way.

Steam has the power to fight if it needed to hold its ground while it adjusts its policy.

With itch, I doubt so. In one swell swoop itch would be in the water; immediately action required.

I am not saying it's the correct way but to save a ship from being sank, credit card stuff are normally merciless...
by ManBeardPc | 2025-07-24 08:24:19+00:00
The key feature seems to be the dynamic nature while still being fast. Sure, they could also build it as a compiler that does all mentioned in the article and then dump optimized Go code. Maybe even use the Go PGO instead of their own. But this is another approach, what I mean is caching of the JIT generated code to avoid doing expensive part again while still being dynamic and adapt to incoming messages.
by lan321 | 2025-07-24 08:24:33+00:00
It's essentially a critical mass type of thing, no?

The military and police are human, but they're also the main path towards control. If you treat them good, they'll treat you good, likely until they slip too far and are unable to back down without facing consequences.

It's mostly a good way to avoid situations like Cambodia's killing fields since that was also done by humans.

It'll result in a mess, but a mess is better than torture-to-death camps and famine.
by Cthulhu_ | 2025-07-24 08:26:15+00:00
> The argument of "we're only indexing info on other sites" changes when you are building a tool to generate content and hosting that content on your own domain.

And yet, "the algorithm" has always been their first defense whenever they got a complaint or lawsuit about search results; I suspect that when (not if) they get sued over this, they will do the same. Treating their algorithms and systems as a mysterious, somewhat magic black box.
by danhor | 2025-07-24 08:26:26+00:00
Alon Levy has also written some more on Tram-Trains: https://pedestrianobservations.com/2020/11/03/tram-trains/

A few points I want to add: The Stadtbahn (called Tram-Metro in this Article) is usually just as fast in the outlying areas as in the inner areas and rarely street running, just doing it with less infrastructure. It's just that rail tracks are even faster.

There are quite a few newly built S-Bahn Tunnels in cities under a Million in Germany, in Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Leipzig (you could quibble about citie vs metro area population).

The major downside of Tram-Trains compared to S-Bahns, Rapid Transit or just through running away from the city center is that they slow way down in the city center, much more than the other options. This makes it a bad fit for the sprawly, north american cities without a strong center which have much more demand for non city center destinations and a much more expansive center compared to european cities with tram-trains.

The big benefit of Tram-Trains is the flexibility. Over a region, some sections can implement their own new through running section for the Network (Heilbronn), be almost a metro (the Kombilösung and some parts of S11) or provide S-Bahn style service (e.g. Freudenstadt for a mediocre Regio S-Bahn).

But it's a master of none: Too slow and cramped for high-quality regional services, too few doors for rapid passenger exchange, too demanding and expensive (electrification and vehicles) for connecting small rural lines, legally limited in capacity (75m) for very busy services.

They can be great, but it really depends on local circumstances.

Before converting commuter rail to Tram-Trains, most American cities should first implement a frequent (at least 2tph), all-day, regular service with more urban stations for commuter rail and perform true ticket integration between mainline rail and their other urban transport (the ticket integration is very important!). This also applies to many european cities, such as in France, Spain, Belgium, ... .
by mike_hearn | 2025-07-24 08:26:49+00:00
You're still engaging in the same bad faith behaviors I called out before:

"... stop attacking people who are responding to your anecdotes with data. A lot of people believe untrue things about the weather because they struggle to separate predictions about the future vs statements about the present."

1. Stop attacking people. There are no "propaganda trolls" attempting to "lure" anyone to the wrong conclusions here.

2. Stop citing anecdotes. Your list is a set of case studies hand picked by civil servants based on no published criteria, so it can't be used to determine the frequency of anything. You need observational data, which I already linked you to. Go look at it.

3. Stop presenting predictions in a discussion about what is actually happening! Your second link is the exact kind of confusion I just called out. Why are you citing predictions about the future in a discussion about the past and present?

I'll ask again: where in the world are these farmers you talked to. Let us check the weather records and see if these farmers are simply confused in the same way you are.
by mort96 | 2025-07-24 08:27:56+00:00
I didn't quite get if you think changing gears for the purpose of engine braking wears the clutch more than normal or not. Are you using the force from the clutch to force the engine to go from a low RPM to a high RPM? In cases like that where the difference in RPM is significant, I would press the clutch pedal, then speed up the engine by pressing the gas pedal, downshift, then release the clutch. Rev matching, basically. It does wear the clutch a teeny tiny bit, but not more than any other gear change.

If your comment wasn't meant to imply that engine braking wears the clutch more than normal gearing, if you just want to avoid gear changes as much as possible, disregard this comment. (Although... I'm not sure that that's a valid worry, modern clutches last a LONG time when used properly)
by kragen | 2025-07-24 08:28:45+00:00
The relevant feature of Dyneema is specifically that its Young's modulus is much higher than most other organic fibers, about half that of steel, which is probably what you mean by "neither material has much elasticity".

Steel cables would work just as well if weight isn't a consideration, but I think Dyneema is likely to be more resistant to abrasion. However, heat produced by any significant dynamic friction will ruin it immediately, as I found to my sorrow. Kevlar is much more heat-resistant, and of course steel is more heat-resistant than Kevlar.
by jajko | 2025-07-24 08:29:06+00:00
Well there are new classes of idiots I see pretty frequently - a typical tesla driver going 90 in 120 region of highway without any reason, presumably saving last bits of battery (that has at least some rationale, if they do it due to ie fear then they should not be driving or having license).

Over say 50km part of highway, maybe 2000 cars need to overtake such almost stationary object (to regular traffic which generally moves exactly at the speed limit). Fine if you have 3+ lanes, but most highways in Europe have 2 only. Then you have all the trucks, buses and rest of traffic trying to overtake via that 1 free lane, which in heavier (but still cca smooth) traffic will create a massive moving traffic jam immediately.

If I didn't see this every other day (and for some reasons its 90% tesla drivers where I live and rest is caravans) I wouldn't believe it to be so common, but it is. Summer now makes it even worse with all holiday drivers.
by danw1979 | 2025-07-24 08:29:12+00:00
Not a question, but I just wanted to say thanks for putting this out there. We’ve all been in a tight spot with storage before and it’s really useful to know about new features and approaches that can help you out and to know the limits of what you’re working with.

Even though there are commenters criticising this approach, it’s your data and you’re the one who knows best how to handle it. I think you did a decent job of highlighting the risks.
by safety1st | 2025-07-24 08:29:56+00:00
That's an inaccurate and unnecessarily critical take on the article.

First, at the end of the article he does a taste test. In the taste test no one was able to tell whether the meat had been rested or not, so that's a reason you might not want to bother resting meat.

Second, yes he devotes a lot of the article to the discovery that juice retention is happening for different reasons than we thought. To quote him directly, he thinks this is important because "Food and recipe writers like myself have been dispensing inaccurate meat-resting time and temperature guidance for ages." If you choose to continue resting your meat, as many will, these insights provide you with better guidance in terms of how you should do it.

As a home cook, the taste test is convincing enough to me that if I'm making food for myself, I should probably skip the resting stage, focus on other taste factors, and see how it goes, as I'm always happy to save 10 minutes and taste is rather subjective anyway. A professional or commercial chef will likely have a very different but no less useful takeaway from this article.

All this to say, it was a great article and the headline's not clickbait.
by Cthulhu_ | 2025-07-24 08:30:00+00:00
That reminds me of this webpage some years ago (idk if I can link it, it was very cynical) that summarized the week on HN with a lot of cynicysm and snark, it was a great, "grounding" read, a cynical break from the HN techbro overhyping of e.g. Rust.

(I don't know if Rust is overhyped, it's calmed down again but at one point a recurring post on HN was "solved problem X... but written in Rust!", where the latter was the main selling point instead of e.g. the 10x performance boost that a lot of applications get from a rewrite to a lower-level language)
by perihelions | 2025-07-24 08:32:44+00:00
It's remarkable that these censors are hiding behind "feminism", as a framing to make their censoriousness seem more palatable, or progressive, or enlightened. Anyone familiar with literature (reading–not burning) might know the OG feminists defied laws and criminal arrests to publish obscene books.

Here's Margaret C. Anderson of "The Little Review", fined $100 and fingerprinted for flouting morality laws publishing Joyce's Ulysses in serialized form,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_C._Anderson

(Did you know the US Post Office used to burn books?)
by usrusr | 2025-07-24 08:32:57+00:00
On paper, yes, but did that ever happen? Sorry for being sarcastic, but where I live the frugal hybrid is exceptionally rare and the "same big engine, but driving a much heavier car" hybrid is omnipresent. The kind of people who might buy the frugal one buy second or third hand while almost all buyers of factory new pick the "same big engine" option, and those are the ones who decide what's available on the second hand market.
by kqr | 2025-07-24 08:32:58+00:00
Many people in this discussion seem to confuse checklists with to do lists.

A checklist is an established, recurring procedure that is ideally memorised, but despite that one goes through each item on the checklist to make sure nothing is forgotten or performed out of sequence or twice.

A to do list is an ad hoc collection of tasks that need to be performed. The list is built for each occasion rather than covering a standard procedure.
by mnahkies | 2025-07-24 08:33:28+00:00
Tying legislation/compliance requirements to specific vendor (Apple/Google) that happen to be dominant today feels wild to me (as opposed to open standards).

Surely that directly entrenches their moat, and raises the difficulty of any new market entrants competing (leaving us with the effective duopoly we have today)

I fear this is increasingly becoming the case for most digital businesses through blanket requirements that don't taper into effect with the maturity/scale of the business - it's a legislative pulling up of the ladder behind them by creating high barriers to entry.
by johnisgood | 2025-07-24 08:33:29+00:00
I am not saying that it does not "lie", but it does not lie because it wants to lie, or because it has the intent to lie or deceive. It does so because of its system prompts or something else, done by its developers.

What you said is exactly why I said "If it "deceives", we would have to answer this question.". The developers made it so.
by shuaf98 | 2025-07-24 08:35:17+00:00
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by ranguna | 2025-07-24 08:35:26+00:00
9955WX vs 9950x3D

148 , 144 and 128 of total, usable and 5.0 PCIe vs 28 and 24 of total and usable

8 vs 2 memory channels

RDIMM vs UDIMM

2TB vs 192GB of max RAM

And probably most important for this discussion:

Unspecified (but I'd say: servers) vs Enthusiast Desktop market segment

Both are good for their specific market segment and comparing them is moot unless the segments merge.
by jacquesm | 2025-07-24 08:36:17+00:00
Maybe. I think that companies change the moment diffusion of responsibility happens because then decisions that are bad are broken up into so many little steps that everybody can credibly claim 'it wasn't them' that made the bad decisions.

For Google that moment came very rapidly. Launch was in 1998. When Schmidt took over in 2001 they already had 300 employees, their 59th employee or so was a chef.

Somewhere between those two Schmidt became a viable contender for the CEO spot.

I figure that happened somewhere in 1999, but maybe you are right and they kept it together until Schmidt took over. But just the fact that you would hand your 'do no evil' empire to a guy like Schmidt means you have already forgotten that motto.
by WA | 2025-07-24 08:36:22+00:00
Several factors are at play here, which are somewhat contradictive:

1. Publishers feel entitled to traffic, because Google send them traffic in recent years. See [1] for example:

> "Google's core search engine service is misusing web content for Google's AI Overviews in Google Search, which have caused, and continue to cause, significant harm to publishers, including news publishers in the form of traffic, readership and revenue loss," the document said.

> "Publishers using Google Search do not have the option to opt out from their material being ingested for Google's AI large language model training and/or from being crawled for summaries, without losing their ability to appear in Google's general search results page," the complaint said.

I have zero pity for these publishers.

2. Not all traffic is created equal. Does a business really lose customers, just because traffic goes down? Maybe that traffic wouldn't have converted anyways. This is basically the old piracy discussion revamped with businesses arguing that every single copy of a movie or a game would've been a customer. It's idiotic.

3. But: Google is now a content provider and different rules apply for those than being merely on a comparable level like an ISP. This has been discussed for years with social networks in minds. Hence, Google needs to be held accountable for providing harmful information (such as in another story here: the temperature for heating pork and when food safety is affected).

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/googles-ai-overview...
by kriro | 2025-07-24 08:36:53+00:00
On Google: """what temp in C is pork safe at?"""

AI: 63C

First result: Five year old reddit thread (F only discussion, USDA mentioned).

Second result: ThermoWorks blog (with 63C).

Third result: FoodSafety.gov (with 63C)

Forth result: USDA (with 63C)

Seems reasonable enough to scan 3-4 results to get some government source.