by komali2 | 2025-07-04 12:43:43+00:00
> indicate a chronic inability to actually think like a rational being - you're ruled by your emotions. You should work on being able to control your emotions rather than believing that your emotional outbursts make you not wrong.

What are you, one of the LessWrong rationalists? You need to re-read your sequences, emotions aren't inherently irrational. I do find it funny that you seem to think you aren't expressing any emotion - your indignation, anger, and fear are writ plain across every sentence. As far as I can tell my emotions in regards to this comment thread are amusement and confusion. Oh no, I think your haughty high-minded defense of racism is kinda funny, I guess I'm illogical! I apologize for my emotional outburst, Mr. Spock.

> because you are inventing the difference between concepts. It does not exist,

Nah, it exists, you're just wrong.

> that there is no consensus definition

Insomuch as liberal democracies believe they represent consensus, there quite obviously is a consensus definition: it's the one the representative legislators wrote into a bill, and then wrote into law. And then the judicial portions of the government continually enforced and upheld this law. Doesn't get more consensus'd than that in liberal democracy.

> I already did. Also, calling out the emotional manipulation in your comment in substitute for any actual point.

Implying all Afghanistanian refugees are rapists is racist, so nah you haven't.

> Yet again, substitution of emotion for, well, the ability to think.

Here's my emotion right now: confusion. I'm confused that you seem to think pointing out something is racist, is an emotional outburst. I'm also confused about your dichotomy between emotion and thinking. All human experience is based at some level on emotion, so too are all human values. I think you may have watched too much sci fi or something, to think otherwise.

> such as the refugees coming from a different culture, coming from a different legal environment, or not being treated legally in the same way as other individuals because of their refugee status

Implying all Afghanistanian refugees come from a culture that promotes rape is the racism to which I referred. Racists often swap around "race" and "culture" when convenient.

> Heck, the presumption that if you come from Afghanistan, you must be Afghani (or of a particular race), wildly exceeds your own standards for what racism is.

Don't concern troll, it's so boring.

> The fact is that there is a huge problem with sexual assault and violence from Middle Eastern refugees in Europe.

Violence against women isn't a uniquely Middle Eastern problem - at the same time right wing politicians are trying to drum up votes by being racist, France has protests about a plague of violence against women. It's not "a cultural problem" at all, it's a universal aspect of patriarchal society. At least immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate per capita than locals, maybe they can help offset the violence that citizens are committing against eachother.

So, once again, the tweet is picking out one thing and blaming a random group of people as if this thing is unique to them, ignoring the rot beneath their feet. Something tells me you wouldn't quite appreciate a tweet along the lines of "More white men elected into government - bringing culture of school shootings into government?" After all, the overwhelming majority of school shootings are performed by white men.

> No, that is not my position - and you know that.

I agree now that you don't think you're racist, unlike many right wingers I've had this same conversation with. However, you are, I guess, by accident. As far as I can tell you think you're some kind of very intelligent hyper rationalist that "sees the world for what it is," including that, I guess, some cultures are inferior? You're blind to your engagement in cognitive fallacies such as cherry picking and selection bias. The fact that you're allergic to emotion is a personal flaw on your part, it doesn't make you smarter at all. It makes it obvious to anyone listening that you have no understanding of your own emotions, and are thus ruled by them. That's how emotions lead to irrational thinking and behavior, having emotions doesn't cause irrationality inherently.

Especially because you seem to think that accusing someone of racism is inherently emotional. What?

> nd morally insane idea that just because someone is a racist means that they deserve to be legally punished.

Not quite, I never argued for thought crime. Just the punishment of hate speech - which is generally defined as public in nature, so isn't even really an argument for your earlier accusation against me of authoritarian leftism (with the requisite pervasive surveillance).

> it's not really falsifiable, either, because you can always claim that someone is a closet racist, even without evidence)

I don't think that's very fair, I never argued for any kind of enforcement without evidence.

> You should wait to respond to this comment until you can actually learn to use logic at the high-school level, and have the emotional maturity and control of (at least) a college grad. You have categorically not demonstrated either of those things so far.

Being haughty and superior because you "don't feel emotions" or whatever tf just makes you obnoxious and cringe, please go read "How to Win Friends" or something, I don't really care, you come off like a reddit /r/atheist poster and it's embarrassing. Or like, one of those twitch streamers that "win" debates when they get the other guy to be mad. "Haha I said something horrid and you got mad about it, you lose!"