MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by zzo38computer | 2025-06-22 06:17:22+00:00
I can see they say many problems with what NIST is doing. One question is: Does someone bribe (or otherwise coerce) them? If so, is that why they are being deceptive, and why they would not respond to (or explain) some things?

If a system has parameters, another issue is whether or not a different implementation is required due to the parameters being different. There are some reasons why a separate implementation might be desirable anyways in some cases, but sometimes it would be possible to change the parameters at run time.

Another consideration is patents; they should not recommend patented or secret algorithms. Cryptanalysis will be difficult if the specification is not freely available to anyone who wants to read it, and implementation can be a problem if patent licensing is required. Wikipedia says that NTRU is patented but "Security Innovation exempted open-source projects from having to get a patent license"; that might be good enough.

Wikipedia also says that Kyber is a key encapsulation mechanism but NTRU is a public key cryptosystem, so they would not be the same kind of things, anyways. However, you could also use a public key cryptosystem like a key encapsulation mechanism if you have another method of making up a key securely at random. But, Wikipedia says "it is easier to design and analyze a secure KEM than to design a secure public-key encryption scheme as a basis" (I do not know the details of the quoted part to judge this, but the unquoted part seems obvious to me).

Another alternative might be using multiple algorithms with independent keys (to be secure, the keys will have to be independent; however, you might have to be careful that they really will be independent), e.g. by using Kyber first and then encrypting the result with NTRU. But, that depends on what your requirements are.

As another comments (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37756656) had mention, they may have different requirements than yours, such as hardware, so that is another issue.

None of that is an excuse for what NIST seems to be doing though (according to the article); they are additional concerns than those ones.
by raffraffraff | 2025-06-22 06:17:28+00:00
Not for me. I don't have a TV and I have used adblockers for decades. I live somewhere that I don't really notice offensively intrusive ads. And I wear blouse cancelling headphones whenever people annoy me. At this point I'm completely sensitised to over-friendly, over-confident "HEY FRIEND, DO YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM? I HAD TOO, AND THIS WONDERFUL PRODUCT SOLVED IT". If I click on a link for Rick Astley "Never gonna give you up", damnit I don't want to listen to an ad first. I have a hair trigger insta CTRL+w on ads. Even the ones that the YouTuber directly refers to in that segment of their video. "Fuck your sponsor"
by AnthonyMouse | 2025-06-22 06:17:29+00:00
> An interest free loans means you’re ahead in that transaction.

Except that you had to sit on some asset in the meantime instead of using it for something. Or if that asset was a productive investment that yielded returns, the government is ahead in that transaction, because the returns from investing the deferred taxes increase your taxable income.

> One can’t invest all their money in any given year or one lacks the ability to buy food. You also can’t spend all your money in a given year or you go broke.

You can both invest all of your assets by taking on new debt to buy food and spend all of your assets and have nothing left. Both of those are things some people actually do. And for people who neither spend nor invest 100% of their assets, different incentives will affect the proportion of each one they do.

> Thus both saving and spending are happening and reducing the amount of money required to save means you can up spending.

Suppose you're paying a tax rate of 33% and have access to investments with a 10% return. If you have to pay the tax when you get the money then if you get $100 you immediately lose $33 and can only invest $67, and if you get 10% interest on the $67 then you can only reinvest $4.49. In other words, your compounding rate is now 6.7% instead of 10% and after 10 years you'd have $128.

If instead you pay the tax when you spend the money, your compounding rate is 10%. So if you started off with $100, after 10 years you have $259 before tax and then you pay a third of that in tax and get to spend $174.

So in one case you have the choice between spending $67 today or $128 in ten years, in the other case your choice is between spending $67 today or $174 in ten years. That increases the incentive to invest the money now and spend more of it later, instead of spending it now.

You do then get to spend more of it later, but the extra money you get to spend is value that only exists because of the additional investment.

And then the government gets $85 in taxes in 10 years instead of $33 today, i.e. it got a 10% ROI too.
by twelve40 | 2025-06-22 06:17:34+00:00
from what i read, the Strait of Hormuz is mostly used for shipping to Asia now, with the US being a net exporter of oil, KSA and others getting more options to ship via the Red Sea instead, and overall blocking this would be a minor annoyance, not lasting long with 2 carrier strike groups on the way, and most to-be-blocked shipments going to China - shooting themselves in the foot. It seems the historical memories of the 70's mideast oil beef are just that. But what do i know.
by kevinleee | 2025-06-22 06:18:06+00:00
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by aisenik | 2025-06-22 06:18:23+00:00
I am bathed in the light of heaven for my war is in service of justice and peace for all existence. Those who stand in opposition to these goals are an evolutionary dead-end. An answer to the Fermi Paradox.

My father, a middle-class mormon and far-right political enthusiast, once told me in the context of the conflicts in the Middle East, "people will die for their country, but they'll kill for their god." This harrowing indication of his radicalization nonetheless holds as a true and instructive maxim.

Who is your god? For most of America, it is power and the best proxy for power is the demigod of Money. Avarice and greed are in, Christlike works are out. Too woke.

It is literally possible to use all of this incredible technology and productive capacity to enable food security, high quality housing, access to healthcare, unlimited access to the wealth of all human knowledge and digitizable creations, while protecting our only habitable planet and nurturing its biosphere, and so much more, for all of humanity. Yet money and the desire for power will see billions suffer and die in the next century while mass global extinctions will only decelerate due to depletion of species.

Why can't we do better than the current environment of lawless global and domestic violence waged by the US government? It is barbarism.
by FeepingCreature | 2025-06-22 06:18:51+00:00
Okay, you know what?

I'll let my argument stand as written, and you can let yours stand as written, and we'll see which one is more convincing. I don't feel like I have any need to add anything.

edit: Other than, I guess, that this mode of argument not being there is what made LessWrong attractive. "But what's the actual answer?!"
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by koevet | 2025-06-22 06:20:03+00:00
But wasn't Iran already docile to America? Sure, it wasn't a crystal clear ally like Saudi or the Gulf states, but behind the anti-Zionist propaganda and "evil US" blabbering, there were decades of backchannel negotiations, regional pragmatism, and even moments of cooperation — especially when mutual interests aligned, like in post-Taliban Afghanistan or the fight against ISIS.
by toofy | 2025-06-22 06:20:19+00:00
from what i understand orion is overflowing with bugs.

even without the bugs, after everything we’ve been through with crazy shit from closed sourced browser companies, the last thing i’d install would be orion/kagi. lol nuh uh.

not a chance i’d trust an ai company with almost the entirety of my online existence—especially when they close off and hide what they’re doing.
by flowerthoughts | 2025-06-22 06:20:33+00:00
I recently had a related issue where I was explaining an idea I'm working on, and one of my mates were engaging in creative thinking. The other found something he could do: look up a Chinese part to buy. He spent quite a few minutes on his phone, and then exclaimed "The hardware is done!" The problem is what he found was incomplete and wrong.

So he missed out on the thing we should do when being together: talk and brainstorm, and he didn't help with anything meaningful, because he didn't grasp the requirements.
by adventured | 2025-06-22 06:21:32+00:00
The IRGC is unlikely to let the regime fall so easily. They'll kill a lot of Iranians to stop that from happening. The Iranian people have limited means to fight at present. The no-fly zone and sanctions approach will be used to attempt to strangle the regime over the coming years. It'll take a small miracle for the regime to fall anytime soon, it's not that weak yet (imo) despite what the propaganda is claiming.
by snickerbockers | 2025-06-22 06:21:39+00:00
I'm concerned by the appearance that the Trump administration was negotiating with the Iranians in bad faith to buy time for an Israeli operation Before America joined the war it was a bad look since it benefits us but it still wasn't outside the realm of possibilities that Israel did this of its own initiative since they're obviously insane. Now that we've taken advantage of the opportunity, it really looks like Trump may have been negotiating in bad faith.

I'm personally of the opinion that the Israeli operation forced Trump's hand and he realized that he can't trust the Iranians going forward since they have no reason to trust us going forward. That's just my opinion; I obviously can't expect anybody else negotiating nuclear non-proliferation (or anything else related to war or peace) with America in the future to have such an optimistic outlook on this turn of events.

If the Israelis did force his hand then I personally can accept that he made the tough call that needed to be made in that moment, but then the next call needs to be distancing us from the Israelis because we can't have an ally that fucks everything up when we're negotiating, *especially* when they literally assassinated the guy who was negotiating with Trump on Iran's behalf.
by Towaway69 | 2025-06-22 06:21:51+00:00
An internet full of pointless advertising and the invention of adblocks to hide that advertising.

Digital devices that track everything you do, that then generated so much data that the advertising actually got worse. Thereby the data was collected with the promise that the adverts would get more appropriate.

Now comes AI to make sense of the data and the training data (I.e., the internet) is being swamped with AI content so that the training data for AIs is becoming useless.

I wonder what is being invented to remove all the AI content from the training data.
by CapricornNoble | 2025-06-22 06:23:25+00:00
>The main damage they do to Israel is waking up Israelis due to a missile alarm. As a result they lose hundreds of lives in bombings and crucial resources. That doesn't deter them

Ansar Allah has managed to largely shut down the port of Eilat, one of only 3 major ports in Israel, and Israel relies on maritime imports to sustain itself.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240716-israel-says-eilat...

They aren't detered by Israeli bombs because they've been bombed by the Saudis for over a decade in their ongoing civil war.

But all of this talk about nuclear bombs and jihad is hypothetical. Meanwhile only one country in the MidEast has an ACTUAL undeclared nuclear arsenal, and it's the country that has occupied territory in multiple neighboring countries while conducting an ethnic cleansing that has cost the lives of tens of thousands of women and children.

As a Westerner, I'd much rather we deal with the Rogue State perpetrators of actual crimes rather than the hypothetical criminals.
by bawolff | 2025-06-22 06:23:47+00:00
I mean, the ICC did issue a warrant for individuals on both sides of that conflict and seems willing to prosecute. The Palestinian national died in the conflict, so obviously could not be prosecuted. The Israeli nationals are regrettably refusing to surrender themselves, which would be an issue no matter which body attempted to prosecute (unless it was a domestic Israeli court). That is hardly a situation unique to this conflict - lots of people with warrants attempt to evade capture.

The US behaviour is despicable, but ultimately it hasn't really changed anything.
by jhanschoo | 2025-06-22 06:24:25+00:00
The first thing I would want to do after wearing Israeli shoes would be to find a way to flee immediately and disassociate myself from being complicit with the ongoing genocide (or to resist it if I were in such a position), Iran's hostility be damned.

In which case, I suppose that any resistance I might do would have the state call me an anti-Semite.
by rich_sasha | 2025-06-22 06:24:34+00:00
Sort of. I think there was an effort to put a rules-based framework, still skewed towards the "great powers", but a framework nonetheless.

Invasion of Afghanistan only happened after diplomatic efforts to get the Taliban to surrender Bin Laden. Iraq invasion was pushed through UN. Likewise, the Balkan war in 1990s was UN-sanctioned.

This? I mean, never mind the question of nukes, I don't think anyone declared war. Iran is a buffet of pick-your-own-target, in the middle of a negotiation that was supposed to end the nuclear program peacefully. I'm not saying it because I like Iran (I don't) but because it sets the tone where countries just do what they want, if they can get away with it. It's a step back from a world, where at least in theory we were supposed to stay within the frameworks of principle-based laws.

You might argue that this was always a façade only, and the powerful did whatever they wanted, bending the law around it. Maybe. But I'd like to think it set a limit to how far they can bend it. Now? I'm not so sure.
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by VoidWhisperer | 2025-06-22 06:26:00+00:00
Regarding #3, I haven't kept up with this specific issue lately, but wasn't the issue with their use and creation of HEU, atleast for a while, that they wouldn't allow UN nuclear energy inspectors to monitor what was being created at the reactors? There are AP articles from 2023[1] saying that Iran had barred 1/3 of the most experienced inspectors the UN had there from monitoring it, and a news article from the UN itself from this year[2] says that Iran has been actively impeding their ability to monitor its nuclear program.

[1]: https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-un-inspectors-b82c92... [2]: https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/06/1164291
by epolanski | 2025-06-22 06:28:17+00:00
> Iran never had the deterrent North Korea had.

I feel very conflicted about what's happening.

On one side it is clear that no country should give up their WMD projects. You lack that deterrent you get attacked, as simple as that. Libya, Syria, Iraq gave up their WMD projects eventually got bombed/attacked.

> What happened today likely saved millions of Iranian lives.

That's speculation. Since you name NK that's a clear example of a country having nuclear deterrent actually saving the region from a conflict.
by Retric | 2025-06-22 06:29:12+00:00
> Except you had

No, you benefited from sitting on that productive asset. Getting a free stock option is still a meaningful benefit even if you never case it in.

Further assuming the asset kept up with inflation you’re better off after the sale vs holding cash for that same period.

> by taking on new debt to buy food

The money you got from that loan is an asset you’re not investing in that hypothetical. As to “spend all of your assets and have nothing left” yes I mentioned going broke was an option repeating what I already said isn’t an argument here.

> Suppose you …

Ignoring the possibility to just spend more today and also spend the same amount in 10 years is disingenuous here. Especially as assuming consistent rules you also benefit 10 years from now, so you get to spend more today and also spend more in 10 years.

Really free money lets you spend more, there’s no way around that. Further with the US tax code nothing says investments need to be in the US or capital gains ever get taxed this often is a pure dead loss for US taxpayer.
by thaumasiotes | 2025-06-22 06:29:36+00:00
> Indra is also god of sacred verse, "vipratamo kavinam", which is similar to odin mastering the runes

That seems pretty tenuous; at the time Indo-Iranian diverged from the European branch, runes didn't exist at all, and most likely the proto-Indo-Europeans had no writing of any variety.

For example, different families' words for writing:

- write [English], from PIE *wrey;

- scribere [Latin], from PIE *(s)kreybʰ;

- graphein [Greek], from PIE *gerbʰ; (cognate with English carve)

- likhati [Sanskrit], from PIE *reyk(ʷ)h₂;

- neveshtan [Persian], from PIE *peyḱ (cognate with English paint)

[all taken from wiktionary]

This doesn't look like a concept that was around before the groups diverged.
by ww520 | 2025-06-22 06:29:59+00:00
The Behringer X32 is a rare product that is designed well and built well. The digital aspect, the analog aspect, the user interface (hardware and software), the layout, the speed, the remote control feature, all work very well together. By using it I got the impression that it's built by hackers. It's good to know it's powered by Linux.
by DidYaWipe | 2025-06-22 06:31:01+00:00
Yeah. I was always pissed that none of the dedicated still-photo film scanners offered a movie-film adapter. I had a Nikon LS-2000 (which sucked, BTW) and it had a film-feed mechanism... but only for 35mm still film.

Then again, those scanners didn't have sufficient resolution for 8mm. I think the LS-2000 was something like 2700 DPI... which would only yield 800 or so pixels across. So it would have also needed an additional lens.
by ornornor | 2025-06-22 06:32:23+00:00
Getting a trailer (burley cargo in this case, but applies more generally) has been a game changer. I can even bike to ikea and bring back flat packed furniture with it. Or do the weekly groceries. The trailer can carry up to 100lbs iirc (I have an e-bike)

Short errands are much nicer with a bike: less effort than walking, much faster than walking, no parking headache at destination, cool breeze in your hair, and free (no gas, insurance, parking, tickets…)
by motorest | 2025-06-22 06:32:34+00:00
> It's a weird one. I don't disagree with your post, still, what is "approved" nukes?

1. Check this list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_we...

2. Cross out the countries which are attacked for having nuclear weapons.

Here's your definition of approved nukes.
by NoImmatureAdHom | 2025-06-22 06:33:50+00:00
To me, the only point that matters is #3 and to the best of my knowledge it isn't true any longer.

Iran has produced a large amount of >60% U-235 (enriched), probably hundreds of kilograms, way more than would be required for any peaceful purpose. I don't think any modern medical uses actually require enriched uranium any more. And anyway, how much medical imaging or radiation treatment could you possibly be doing? And they could be developing propulsion systems, that wouldn't be a peaceful purpose (it would be a military ship).

Put all this together and it seems abundantly clear that the sole purpose of Iran's HEU program is the production of nuclear weapons. HEU isn't required in any significant amount for peaceful purposes.
by bigfatkitten | 2025-06-22 06:34:04+00:00
NSA makes public their own policy for national security systems.

https://media.defense.gov/2025/May/30/2003728741/-1/-1/0/CSA...

If the U.S. Government is willing to bet the SECRET-and-above farm on particular cryptography standards and implementations, it’s probably safe for you to use them too.
by EvgeniyZh | 2025-06-22 06:34:06+00:00
3. You can use highly enriched uranium (HEU) for things other than weapons, but the weapons are the only things that require HEU. Medical isotopes and propulsion can be done with LEU. For instance, Argentina produces medical Mo99 from LEU [1]. US Navy wants to switch to LEU for submarines [2]. One of the reasons for these developments is exactly proliferation risk management.

[1] https://inis.iaea.org/records/fe51q-17w28/files/35015774.pdf

[2] https://fissilematerials.org/library/doe16.pdf
by stickfigure | 2025-06-22 06:35:11+00:00
The only thing this parent got wrong is the dates. Historians seem to generally think that Hitler's regime would have collapsed if the West had stood up to:

* The militarization of the Rhineland in 1936

* The Anschluss with Austria in March 1938

* The annexation of the Sudetenland (and the rest of Czechoslovakia) in October 1938

The German army was weak in the 1930s and his generals very hesitant. Hitler's "reckless" successes gave him credibility and power.

Apparently Hitler was genuinely surprised when the west declared war after the invasion of Poland. He expected the cowardly West to roll over again.

I recommend Childers' "World War II: A Military and Social History" if you're into this kind of thing.
by rich_sasha | 2025-06-22 06:35:46+00:00
My conclusion from the last 30 years of regime changes in ME is, be careful what you wish for. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt - they all had their regimes "improved" by well-meaning (?) external powers, and they all went pretty badly.

That's not to endorse any of these regimes, including the current Iranian one, just saying the variance is enormous around these events.
by PeterHolzwarth | 2025-06-22 06:36:07+00:00
Iran having nukes (and recall that in the broader middle east, Iran is largely considered a dangerous enemy) would result in the rest of the middle east pursuing their own nuclear weapons programs to counter Iran. Iran having nukes is a very bad idea - that's why the west , and even countries beyond, have been working for decades to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons.
by motorest | 2025-06-22 06:36:14+00:00
> They woke up and started bombing Israel for no apparent reason or they are responding to Israeli attacks ?

You failed to answer my question. Why?

Check out YouTube and see the high rate of ballistic missiles thrown at Israel. Those existed for years, and were developed for this exact purpose. It just so happened they didn't have the nuclear warhead yet.

I repeat the question: are you really asking why a country would be afraid of a regime which is literally raining ballistic missiles over them?