MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by lupusreal | 2025-06-09 16:17:59+00:00
You're confused and not even contradicting what I said. Read it again.

Steam engines (which rocked a bar, not rotated a shaft) were put to use draining water out of coal mines. They were powered by that same coal, and the water they pumped out was put right into the canals (where else would you put it?). This made coal cheaper, which in turn allowed more people to move from the country to the cities because cities were no longer reliant on firewood. Growing urban populations was demanded and supported by growing industry in those cities.

My whole point is that all of these factors complimented each other, they created a feedback loop that was the industrial revolution. Trains came later, after the industrial revolution was already well underway. That's what I said already.
by discoutdynamite | 2025-06-09 16:18:55+00:00
I live and work in a non-union state. There are still three or four relevant unions, because the work cannot be kicked down the food chain: Welders have about 20 productive years before they are legally blind. Electricians face constant jobsite hazards and risk. Railroad workers have a unique schedule and lifestyle. These unions exist because, despite mgmt effort to cheap out, you cannot cheap out on certain kinds of labor without killing people. These unions are active and healthy, they do not do political stunts, just good clean work.

Due to our technological society, actually nearly everyone is a tech worker, like it or not. We all have a vested interest in maintaining control over technology. So the correct body to form is not a union of workers in the sector core, but a political party with policy goals, with open membership.
by 0xbadcafebee | 2025-06-09 16:19:02+00:00
Google's main search page is the slowest page & UI I have found on the internet today (not accounting for bandwidth limits). Even on modern devices it lags at text entry and even rearranges characters in the text box so you have to wait 10+ seconds for it to finish loading or it will go haywire. The shopping and other pages are actually worse. So it appears you're right, $350B isn't enough money to maintain a web page in 2025.
by Mystery-Machine | 2025-06-09 16:19:08+00:00
Here's a quick bug report: I didn't know how I can check out the app you built. There were no links in your post. Only "Bugdrop.app", the name. I tried Googling it and it turns out Bugdrop.app is your actual domain. You should point that out: Bugdrop.app => https://bugdrop.app/

On macOS .app is the standard extension for any installed app.
by wnorris510 | 2025-06-09 16:19:11+00:00
100%. You should not trust photo based calorie tracking and should only use it when there is no other realistic choice (e.g. eating out).

You especially should not trust an app that does not do any research on the accuracy of it's algorithm or claims to be "consistently accurate" as many of them do currently. The truth is these algorithms have the potential to be accurate when values are averaged out over the long term, but dish to dish they will have occasionally wildly inaccurate results.
by munificent | 2025-06-09 16:19:41+00:00
> the kind of people who treat them as a human equal.

No, they treat them as better than people.

Because in their value system, animals are moral objects but not moral subjects. By that, I mean that actions done to animals can have moral weight. If you take a sick kitten and nurse it back to health, you are a good person. If you kick a puppy, you are a bad person.

But the animal itself (according to this culture) carries no moral responsibility. If a dog bites someone, it's not an evil dog. It's not the dog's fault. It was just raised poorly, or traumatized as a puppy, or the owner should have kept it leashed better, etc.

Thus animals are always morally pure, but people can be bad people. I kind of get where the value system is coming from: animals really are on the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to power and agency, so it does make sense to think of them as mostly receivers of moral actions. But some people take that really far.
by eastbound | 2025-06-09 16:19:47+00:00
I tell my customers that they should spend 1hr per month “improving the vendor”.

See, if you rely on a vendor, then you need them to survive. It’s a parasite-host relationship. You need to tell them what you need, and oftentimes they will bend the roadmap in favour of the most demanded features. Alternatives:

- They choose their most amusing feature,

- They choose the most lucrative feature among the new possible markets while ignoring all bugs, which is the most rational way to address bugs unfortunately,

- You don’t tell them, they don’t improve, they die / they triple the price of the product by lack of audience, and you have to migrate your data to another product.
by jasonthorsness | 2025-06-09 16:19:53+00:00
There's a lot of precedence for excluding "generated" code from review and linting but it's a bit weird when that is a large portion of the application and you can't rely on the correctness (non-LLM generated code is typically very mechanically generated so you just need to ensure the inputs are correct, not outputs).

I think testing and reviewing LLM-generated code remains just as important. Hopefully they will get better, and it will be easier (and hopefully LLMs can also assist with reviews).
by OutOfHere | 2025-06-09 16:20:07+00:00
Precisely. Unreviewed vibe coding is never going to scale. In the best case, if it works at all, performance issues will persist. In the worst case it could have bugs that will silently destroy data, also create innumerable security vulnerabilities. Future AIs may resolve these limitations, but current AI is not there yet.

To me, coding is a process of learning and discovery, of perpetually preparing me to develop something even better next time. Just as a developer wouldn't be using libraries if they weren't well written, the same logic extends to applications.

I can definitely see poor programmers rely on unreviewed vibe code, and I guess they have nothing to lose, but I don't imagine anyone actually using their output. It's like trying to resell an AI generated image; there is just no market for it after the initial generation.
by SoftTalker | 2025-06-09 16:20:19+00:00
Problem is that what "actually matters" isn't always obvious, at least not to everyone.

When they built Citicorp Center, the contractor bolted the steel insstead of welding it. It was thought to be an implementation detail. Bolting was cheaper, and nobody thought it actually mattered. Until the actual engineer who designed it looked more carefully and discovered that as a result the building was more vulnerable to wind loads. Expensive rework was required to open up the interior walls and weld all the bolted connections.
by stephc_int13 | 2025-06-09 16:20:45+00:00
It is very difficult to formally prove that a given system has reached or is close to reach some limits, and it is even more difficult with neural nets given their black box nature.

The paper published by Apple should not be considered as a definitive statement, but more like a hint and a conversation starter.

In think that many important actors in the AI field are making predictions about the future and potential of AI with almost nothing to back their claims.
by Grayskull | 2025-06-09 16:20:48+00:00
It is possible view source Org file where is code for gnuplot. (Tip: switch to code view as gitlab view does not understand source blocks)

Honestly I love seeing org-mode and babel, whenever possible.

https://gitlab.com/Lockywolf/ipv4a/-/blob/3db4a65b11bc60b091...
by lirimkon | 2025-06-09 16:20:55+00:00
Nice take. It’s indeed very difficult to build the entire infrastructure around this, nice that you open-sourced it

Recall is pretty good, but it’s clearly the number one out there and is kind of “taking advantage” of that

I’ve noticed some other APIs popping up that aren’t open source but are more affordable and reliable, like Skribby (meeting bot API) and MeetingBaaS.
by hinkley | 2025-06-09 16:21:17+00:00
It's because we tried to take down the 'no girls or brown people' sign.

All of this is a long temper tantrum about Obama and then Mrs Clinton, emphasis on the Mrs.

If I had a time machine I would take documentation back and convince someone that we need a few more Old White Guys to let the GOP's base unrustle their jimmies for a bit.

I predicted something like this coming back in the late 90's, not that anyone should have listened to me about civics. I say 'like this', but... not like this. And if I had someone would have requested "wellness checks" (which is American for 'check to see if we can have him involuntarily committed to a mental facility) on my behalf.

My notion back then was that the vibe of the country was such that a black man would need to be elected before a white woman was a serious contender. But that there would have to be a delay. When you rush progress you can spin out. And fuck if we haven't spun out.

Maybe they'll go for a whip-smart gay man next term? Who knows.
by RankingMember | 2025-06-09 16:23:26+00:00
> 2025-05-15 - Panel awards $1,337 + swag. Rationale: Exploitation likelihood is low. (lol)

Oh, so this is how vendors are going to start playing it to minimize bug bounty costs, huh? Good luck with that- the whole point of the award being a decent chunk of change is to make responsible disclosure more appealing to researchers who might otherwise go the other direction.
by mleva | 2025-06-09 16:23:47+00:00
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by tcdent | 2025-06-09 16:24:01+00:00
OpenAI speech-to-text. Every time I try to use an open source model I am left unimpressed. If I'm going through the hassle of creating a system it might as well work correctly. At this point the closed source world is still miles ahead of the open world; hopefully that changes in the next year or two.

(Wispr Flow is the best for general TTS on desktop as well.)
by thadt | 2025-06-09 16:24:07+00:00
I posit that of the various uses of student writing, the most important isn't communication or even assessment, but synthesis. Writing forces you to grapple with a subject in a way that clarifies your thinking. It's easy to think you understand something until you have to explain or apply it.

Skipping that entirely, or using a LLM to do most of it for you, skips something rather important.
by junon | 2025-06-09 16:24:13+00:00
I think you misread my comment. The worry that turtles were having widespread injuries due to plastic straws was overstated. It started with a viral video. There's no evidence that was anything other than a freak accident.

That's not to say plastics are good, or that marine life aren't affected by them. Clearly they are. Straws are a small factor in that, and I was simply stating that a cellulose based straw that degrades in the ocean is not going to impact turtles, certainly not more than the few rare instances plastic straws harmed them.
by ivm | 2025-06-09 16:24:22+00:00
Just configured VoiceInk yesterday and it's been flawless for all the languages I speak: https://tryvoiceink.com

It runs a small local model and has optional Power Modes that pass the transcript to a remote or local LLM for further enhancements, based on your currently opened apps or websites. Also the app is open-source, but with a one-time license purchase option (instabuy for me, of course).
by zorgmonkey | 2025-06-09 16:24:24+00:00
UAC is not a security boundary, it is instead considered a defense-in-depth feature (aka best effort but bypassable). This is officially documented by Microsoft in multiple places. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/msrc/windows-security-servic... [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-serve...
by dataflow | 2025-06-09 16:25:09+00:00
Note that adversarial is kind of a red herring, not sure why they mentioned that. The number of flips is unbounded regardless. Which is why it's not really incredible that it can be done: it can't, not as the problem was originally stated. What can be done is solving a different (but useful) problem than the one originally posed.

I realize this sounds like a minor detail to someone who finds this cool (and so do I), but I don't think it is. It's kind of frustrating to be told that your intuition is wrong by someone smarter than you, when your intuition is actually correct and the experts are moving the goalposts. IMO, it makes people lose respect for experts/authority.
by JamesSwift | 2025-06-09 16:25:37+00:00
I think this clears a bar of things that are useful and simple to study. Theres basically no effort involved. If it ends up beneficial we just update job postings from 'daytime infusion tech' to 'nighttime infusion tech'. Instant improvement in outcomes. I doubt you even need to clear this in any way to get the study greenlit.
by mikepurvis | 2025-06-09 16:26:38+00:00
I grew up going to the Omnimax theatre at the Ontario Science Centre; that image of the giant projector going up the angled elevator is a very familiar sight. I loved the little short films they showed there, but it's obvious it was an incredibly bulky and obtuse format that was unlikely to be of much competition against digital alternatives.

Sadly the OSC as a whole is now being demolished after years of under-investment and mismanagement, and the Cinesphere (IMAX) at Ontario Place is likewise in dire straits.
by 9rx | 2025-06-09 16:27:13+00:00
> this assumes very good test coverage and design exist before any code is written.

Does it? In the olden days when hand-coding everything was the only way, you'd write a single test, implement what is necessary for it to pass, and then repeat until you have the full set of functionality covered. Your design would also emerge out of that process.

Which, conveniently, is also how AI seems to work best in this role. i.e. Give it a minimal task and then keep iteratively expanding upon it with more and more bits of information until finally reaching completion. So, in theory, I'm not sure anything has changed.

But the roundtrip time on the agents today is excruciatingly slow, so the question is: Does the typical developer have enough fortitude to stick with it from start to finish without looking for shortcuts to speed up the process? It may not be practical for that reason.
by gs17 | 2025-06-09 16:27:24+00:00
But do we know the "ideal" funding values for the pipes and museum (and if we can, then why not use that)? It's only really "unfair" if we know that the pipes "deserve" a disproportionately larger multiplier. If the pipes deserve to be funded regardless of contributions (and they probably do), then the issue is using a system that could possibly fail to provide for them in the first place.

It's not a good way to allocate funds, but I don't think it's a slam dunk to say it multiplied a larger group's money more than it did a smaller group's.
by philonoist | 2025-06-09 16:27:43+00:00
I care deeply about coding. There was a blog post here about a man who gave up software development for carpentry. I see myself down that path because the organization is abusing the art for monitory gains. The finished product almost always is a behemoth ugly spaghetti that is frankly uninspiring for me to be part of another project.

When I confide this to my close friends and family, who almost always roll their eyes, I have to admit, I can't shake of the love and relate them even if I try to.

Guess I am helpless.
by sdenton4 | 2025-06-09 16:27:48+00:00
A core problem of capitalism is that it only solves the problems of people with money... This is more of the same.

Consider that any of those 100 people might have a kid who would be the next Einstein, if only they hadn't been lead-poisoned. But these hundred people also have rent to pay and food to buy, and can only set aside $100 to deal with the lead-pipes problem. The existing distribution of wealth is not a good measure of the importance of the problems that these different individuals are experiencing. And the existing distribution of wealth is thus not a great way to prioritize solving problems for maximum societal benefit.
by munificent | 2025-06-09 16:28:40+00:00
Your dad may have been your best friend, but that doesn't mean you were your dad's best friend.

The parent-child relationship is asymmetric in ways that are often not as visible to the child as they are a parent. There's a reason why for generations, parents have been responding to their childrens' arguments with "when you're a parent, you'll understand".
by ericmay | 2025-06-09 16:28:50+00:00
The point wasn't really to compare these two situations directly.

Personally, (and you can read through my post history if you'd like) I've been a staunch advocate of COVID-19 vaccines (and any vaccine really) and also of wearing masks as appropriate, but those who believed at the time that vaccine mandates were draconian government overreach literally believed they were freedom fighters just as much as those who are out in the streets of LA as the government comes down to do whatever it is that governments do about these various crises and concerns.

Neither group is or was fighting for a particularly worthy cause reminiscent of some conjured up spirit of the Founders. Enforce borders, get vaccines. Open borders, don't get vaccines. Yawn.
Tell HN: Help restore the tax deduction for software dev in the US (Section 174)
by dang | 2025-06-09 16:28:51+00:00
Companies building software in the US were hit hard a few years ago when the tax code stopped allowing deduction of software dev expenses. Now they have to be amortized over several years.

HN has had many discussions about this, including The time bomb in the tax code that's fueling mass tech layoffs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44180533 - (927 comments) a few days ago. Other threads are listed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44203869.

There's currently a major effort to get this change reversed. One of the people working on it is YC's Luther Lowe (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=itsluther). Luther has been organizing YC alumni to urge lawmakers to support this reversal. I asked him if we could do that on Hacker News too. He said yes—hence this thread :)

If you're a US taxpayer and if you agree that software dev expenses should be deductible like they used to be, please sign this letter to the relevant committee members: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DkRGeef2e_tU2xf3TyEyd2JLlmZ....

(If you're not a US person, please don't sign the letter, since lawmakers will only listen to feedback from taxpayers and we don't want to dilute the signal.)

I'm sure not everyone here agrees with us—HN is a big community, there's no total agreement on anything—but this issue has as close to a community consensus as HN gets, so I think it makes sense to add our voices too.

Luther will be around to answer questions and hopefully HN can contribute to getting this done!
by GremlinGPT | 2025-06-09 16:28:55+00:00
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by paxys | 2025-06-09 16:29:15+00:00
It's fascinating how creative these large AI companies are at finding ways to burn through VC funding. Hire a team of developers/content writers/editors, tune your models, set up a blog and build an entire infrastructure to publish articles to it, market it, and then...shut it all down in a week. And this is a company burning through multiple billions of dollars every quarter just to keep the lights on.
by mkleczek | 2025-06-09 16:29:47+00:00
I was more asking to assess the actual gain.

So the question really is: in your experience how much code requires careful review and re-prompting vs leaving it as "not terrible".

Asking because my experience is that in practice LLMs are no better than juniors - ie. it is more effective to just write the thing by myself instead of multiple rounds of reviewing and re-prompting which does not really achieve what I really want.
by lowsong | 2025-06-09 16:30:38+00:00
> Getting "dunked" only means it's controversial, not necessarily wrong.

It undermines the author's position of being "moderate" if they align with perhaps the most decisive and aggressively written pro-AI puff piece doing the rounds.

> Developers who don't embrace AI tools are going to get left behind.

I'm not sure how to respond to this. I am doubtful a comment on Hacker News will change your mind, but I'd ask you to think about two questions.

If AI is going to be as revolutionary in our industry as other changes of the past, like web or mobile, then how would a similar statement sound around those? Is saying "Developers who don't embrace mobile development are going to get left behind" a sensible statement? I don't think so, even with how huge mobile has been. Same with other big shifts. "Developers who don't embrace microservice architecture are going to get left behind"? Maybe more comparable, but equally silly. So, why would it be different than those? Do you think LLM tools are more impactful than any other change in history?

Second, if AI truly as as groundbreakingly revolutionary as you suggest, what happens to us? Maybe you'll call me a luddite, raging against the loss of jobs when confronted with automated looms, but you'll have to forgive me for not welcoming my own destruction with open arms.
by busymom0 | 2025-06-09 16:30:42+00:00
I develop for iOS and Android. All my apps have a Send Feedback button which opens an email in the user's default email client with my address in the To field, pre-filled subject line and some diagnostic info in the body (things like version number, device type, iOS version etc). I get all my bug reports and feedback that way and respond to them via a reply email when I have released the update to fix it.
by sjm-lbm | 2025-06-09 16:31:03+00:00
I sort of wonder how many of them had this exact fate - the Ft Worth Texas one was in the exact same situation. My understanding is that both parts to maintain the projection system and people with the knowledge to operate it were getting very rare, and the people largely retired when the pandemic closed the theater. Since a lot of the Omnimax screens were build during a similar range of time and would have had similar challenges, I wonder if that fate was common.

(luckily, the Ft Worth theater specifically was converted to an LED screen and recently reopened)