MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by andrew_lettuce | 2025-06-09 13:22:15+00:00
I don't disagree with your overall sentiment, but the last line feels off. Investment profile needs to be matched with returns, but they don't all need to be 5 year mega exits, and they don't need the same companies to be racheted up in round after round of fund-led growth. This is why we don't build companies that will last 100+ years anymore
by n4r9 | 2025-06-09 13:23:32+00:00
One of those arguments is:

> there's not that much motive to gain API market share with unsustainably cheap prices. Any gains would be temporary, since there's no long-term lock-in, and better models are released weekly

The goal may be not so much locking customers in, but outlasting other LLM providers whilst maintaining a good brand image. Once everyone starts seeing you as "the" LLM provider, costs can start going up. That's what Uber and Lyft have been trying to do (though obviously without success).

Also, the prices may become more sustainable if LLM providers find ways to inject ad revenue into their products.
by jcims | 2025-06-09 13:23:49+00:00
Well the concept is now being studied quite closely. Had someone taken it seriously thirty years ago it's quite possible that the net amount of suffering that millions of patients have endured since then could have been reduced.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9599830/

I'm comfortable calling that shameful. Not on any one in particular, it's a systemic problem that could be reduced with sufficient tenacity and courage to take risks.
by wat10000 | 2025-06-09 13:23:51+00:00
And yet:

"How is anyone supposed to take that seriously? Is that how Cologne, Dresden, Würzburg and Pforzheim, or Hiroshima and Nagasaki looked a decade after they had been destroyed in Allied bombing raids? The truth is that even after infrastructure gets bombed back to the Middle Ages, life remains surprisingly normal, and people quickly rebuild."

That's what I was responding to.
by aquariusDue | 2025-06-09 13:24:05+00:00
I miss gulp, things seemed so much simpler back then in retrospect and the nature of JavaScript fatigue seemed to be the FOMO kind instead of this abstraction over abstraction that abstracts that other abstraction but you still have to the understand what it abstracted away kind we have going on today.

Will TypeScript go the way of CoffeeScript in the future? Who knows.
by phillipcarter | 2025-06-09 13:24:18+00:00
> If I'm using an LLM, it is for parsing large amounts of input data, image recognition, complex analysis, deep thinking/reasoning, coding. All of these result in significantly more token usage than a 2-line "the answer to your question is xyz" response.

Correct, but you're also not the median user. You're a power user.
by pjmlp | 2025-06-09 13:24:35+00:00
Agreed, I would say the main problem is lack of focus on developer productivity.

Ok, the goalpost has moved on with what -O0 is expected to deliver in machine code quality, lets then have something like -ffast-compile, or interpreter/jit as alternative toolchain in the box.

Practical example from D land, compile D with dmd during development, use gdc or ldc for release.
by barrkel | 2025-06-09 13:25:16+00:00
Oh contraire, I ask questions about recent things all the time, because the LLM will do a web search and read the web page - multiple pages - for me, and summarize it all.

4o will always do a web search for a pointedly current question, give references in the reply that can be checked, and if it didn't, you can tell it to search.

o3 meanwhile will do many searches and look at the thing from multiple angles.
by Benanov | 2025-06-09 13:25:19+00:00
I would say that it's not "new" that presidential power has expanded. That's very new, and every president over my lifetime has expanded it bit by bit.

4547 is just doing so at a much more rapid pace and using obscure laws that no one wanted to take the time to clean up.

I expect that if we get out of this the American populace will insist Congress tighten up its books and repeal and clarify some of its more obscure laws.
by ty6853 | 2025-06-09 13:25:37+00:00
We're constantly pitted against one another. Ammon Bundy used actual armed militias to check the power of unelected bureaucrats who were constantly changing up the regulations against ranchers, and it actually worked.

Anytime something actually works, the first thing the establishment does is tell you they are on the right, or the left, or they're your enemy. No matter that Bundy actually was on the side of immigrants rights, and stood against Trump, nah all the people that have employed effective strategies are right wing or left wing loons who should be discarded.

The establishment has us all divided. The true enemy of the people is the unelected bureaucrats that snatch people off the street and impose ever changing demands with the power of law, all while bypassing constitutional rights.

Unfortunately this divide and conquer strategy is highly effective. Most 'sides' seem to think their guy will do better the next time and they are just protesting until the power can be used appropriately. The problem is that anybody's guy had the ability to do so in the first place.
by sQL_inject | 2025-06-09 13:25:53+00:00
"critical of people for defending the city from ICE stormtroopers. I see people justifying paper-checking, something I'm sure we roundly mocked the Soviets for doing - I thought gestapo agents checking the papers of people in the streets was commie shit?"

Truly curious, what methods are you suggesting we use to keep our immigrant population tracked and controlled? If the immigrants aren't leaving after being asked nicely, what steps can we use other than force to remove them? Surely you don't believe unchecked immigration in our modern Nation is good? If you do, then how much is too much, at what number, and what if those immigrants still collected benefits of your tax dollars while not themselves paying into the system? What if they voted for someone you don't like?
by tim-kt | 2025-06-09 13:25:53+00:00
Sure, thanks. I also saw this sentence, which was not there in the last version (I think):

> That is to say, with n nodes, gaussian integration will approximate your function's integral with a higher order polynomial than a basic technique would - resulting in more accuracy.

This is not really the case, Gaussian integration is still just interpolation on n nodes, but the way of choosing the nodes increases the integration's exactness degree to 2n-1. It's actually more interesting that Gaussian integration does not require any more work in terms of interpolation, but we just choose our nodes better. (Actually, computing the nodes is sometimes more work, but we can do that once and use them forever.)
by badlibrarian | 2025-06-09 13:26:01+00:00
WARNING: Putting some code on the internet may yield curiosity and contact from other like-minded humans. The more potentially useful it is, the more people you may hear from. Gasp!

A simple "I put this up but please do not contact me" solves the problem.

A software license is not a social contract but that doesn't mean you can't bring some kindness and common sense to the situation.
by watson91 | 2025-06-09 13:26:11+00:00
Really cool. The barriers to coding are close to zero now, but it still feels like there's a gap in the architecture and connectedness side of actually turning an idea into something. Hence, why most of the people building things are still technical. This makes one of the few "solutions" I've been hearing to deal with AI job loss (more people starting companies) feel a tad more reasonable.
by ndiddy | 2025-06-09 13:26:11+00:00
IMO there's a point as long as the terms that the guy's able to negotiate for buying out the current rightsholder make it financially sustainable to keep the business running solely by inexpensively licensing the Commodore brand name to the niche market of aftermarket C64/Amiga projects. I think it would be cool to see stuff like the Mega 65 or the C64 Mini with the actual Commodore brand name on it. I agree that if he has bigger ambitions to "bring back Commodore" then that's a fool's errand, the brand means basically nothing to anyone under the age of 40 and slapping it on modern stuff with little association to Commodore would just further dilute it.
by famouswaffles | 2025-06-09 13:26:38+00:00
>The entire comparison hinges on people only making simple factual searches

You have a point but no it doesn't. The article already kind of addresses it, but Open AI had a pretty low loss in 2024 for the volume of usage they get. 5B seems like a lot until you realize chatgpt.com alone even in 2024 was one of the most visited sites on the planet each month with the vast majority of those visits being entirely free users (no ads, nothing). Open AI in December last year said chatgpt had over a billion messages per day.

So even if you look at what people do with the service as a whole in general, inference really doesn't seem that costly.
by nelsnelson | 2025-06-09 13:27:02+00:00
Completely ignores externalized costs, and focuses entirely on purely end-user retail costs to operate, not even vendor internal operational costs. Can't even find the words "energy" or "electricity" or "scale" in the post. Whatever point this person is making, it is of such dramatic limitation that I am going to contentedly ignore it. Point people at this all you like, Juho Snellman. I for one will merely ignore you.

Also laughably excludes this one from openai's pricing details:

o1-pro-2025-03-19 Price per 1M tokens Batch API price -- Input: $150.00, Output: $600.00

And this doesn't even address quality. Results quality is also explicitly ignored. I personally find most results from cheaper models to be far, far worse than any results I find using search prior to the LLM content flood. But of course, that's 1) subjective, and 2) completely impossible to conduct any analytical comparison now since indexed search has been so completely ruined by SEO and LLM junk. Yet another externalized cost for which accounting is completely impossible, but is likely to have immeasurably negative impacts on the world's ability to share information.
by duxup | 2025-06-09 13:27:43+00:00
The terminology is so confusing in AI right now.

I use LLMs, I enjoy them, I'm more productive with them.

Then I go read a blog from some AI devs and they use terms like "thinking" or similar terms.

I always have to ask "We're still s stringing words together with math right? Not really thinking right?" The answer is always yes ... but then they go back to using their wonky terms.
by anentropic | 2025-06-09 13:27:53+00:00
I am sympathetic to the idea that this was intended as a misdirection

The flaws in the design seem reasonably obvious - any imbalance in the thrust of the multiple rockets on each wheel causing an unwanted steering effect. Also the high centre of gravity and narrow track width seem poorly chosen when stability would surely be desirable.

A mobile Catherine Wheel seems more designed to attract as much attention as possible...
by malfist | 2025-06-09 13:27:57+00:00
Modern conservatism grew out of authoritarian monarchist philosophers of the French revolution. It's inherently tied to supporting an unquestionable social hierarchy with rulers at the top, be they kings, presidents or billionaires.

It's not so much as the philosophy is dead, but more that it's finally achieving it's goals. Anti authoritarianism is just a rhetoric device. Just like saying trans people shouldn't be allowed to use the bathroom is a rhetoric device for achieving the goal is forcing trans people out of existence, either by making their lives such hell that they take their own lives, or that they go back to the closet.
by ithkuil | 2025-06-09 13:28:45+00:00
That can totally explain the lack of desire to get involved.

That doesn't explain the victim blaming though.

Zelenski is depicted as a war criminal because he refused to capitulate to a stronger enemy.

War is crazy and brutal and engaging in one is going to get people killed. But I don't understand how we can expect some other country to just give up and yet we don't expect ourselves to do the same when somebody attacks us.

Hence my only explanation is that no living person in America truly knows how it feels to be invaded.
by goda90 | 2025-06-09 13:29:10+00:00
Sleep, exercise, a balanced diet of mostly whole fruits and vegetables, and a moderate amount of whole grains, legumes and fresh meat/fish/eggs if you're not choosing a vegan lifestyle. Avoid ultra processed foods, cured meats, alcohol and other recreational drugs. Make sure you get enough vitamin D, which can be hard with certain diets if you're not supplementing, or getting the right amount of sunlight(latitude and time of year matters).

Try to stay low stress, spend time out in nature, maintain good relationships, etc.

Edit: caveat to spending time out in nature: be vigilant of ticks. A tick-bourne disease can mess up your immune system pretty well
by egdels | 2025-06-09 13:29:30+00:00
Thank you so much for the kind words – I’m really happy to hear you found it helpful, even for violin!

Let’s Bend was originally designed to support harmonica bending practice, but the idea of using the "stay in the square" feedback as a pitch visualizer for other instruments is incredibly exciting. It’s great to see it working in real musical contexts!

Just to address your points:

There’s already a *“Keep screen on”* toggle in the app settings – enabling it should prevent Android from turning off the screen during use.

You can also *change the root key and tuning system* in the settings. While the interface is still harmonica-focused, this makes the app more flexible – including for lower pitches like a violin's low G.

I’m genuinely grateful for your feedback and enthusiasm – and thanks for trying the app in such a creative way!
by dfxm12 | 2025-06-09 13:29:37+00:00
I don't know what happened to our values

Concentration of media has allowed conservative think tanks to shape people's values. Ten years ago [0], this meant all conservatives were getting marching orders from Fox News. Today, there is the illusion of choice among conservative media outlets (Fox News, X, Newsmax, etc.), but they all send the same message. Even traditionally more moderate outlets, like the WSJ, are being bought by the corporate class and shifting their message to the right.

0 - https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2014/10/21/political-...
by alnwlsn | 2025-06-09 13:30:25+00:00
In my case the computers I 'learned computers' on were old pre-xp 90's machines. Nobody cares if some kid wants to take apart a few old computers on their way to the trash. That feeling of 'getting something to work' on those old machines sort of never went away for me, which is why I like retrocomputing even though the internet, cell phones, youtube, social media was pretty much around most of my life.
by roenxi | 2025-06-09 13:30:26+00:00
Yes. That is part of why the various COVID measures proved quite unpopular. In Australia for example we saw the standard crowd-control treatments [0] being used to break up protests of people who objected to the sudden spike in authoritarianism. There was also the internationally eyebrow-raising financial abuse that the Canadians were doling out that was a new low for anti-protest tactics and political repression.

[0] https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/coronavirus/victor...
by totalperspectiv | 2025-06-09 13:31:32+00:00
ish is a CLI tool for searching records using alignment methods. It’s record-type aware and supports lines, FASTA, and FASTQ.

I was really pleased with the dev experience using Mojo. It’s still pre-1.0 and missing a few things, but overall it came together smoothly.

Performance-wise, Mojo held up well. There's no direct apples-to-apples comparison for ish as a whole, but the core alignment algorithms are on par with the C++ reference (faster in one case, see preprint linked in repo).

Writing and shipping a GPU kernel as part of a CLI was especially cool. This was my first time with GPU programming, and Mojo made it feel first-class, though I don't have much CUDA experience to compare.

Excited to see where Mojo goes. Once the compiler is open-sourced, the possibilities look wide open.
by echelon | 2025-06-09 13:32:04+00:00
I really don't get the bearish on AI folks.

One company has a tool that can replace what we professionally do.

This app would have taken person months to build, yet here it is, almost as an afterthought.

The next ten years are going to be wild. Hope everyone has a plan for leveling up and riding this tsunami.

Even if LLMs presently can't do intricate things, that doesn't matter. I know in my gut that my generous total comp job isn't going to be available in the future in its current form. In aggregate, the work we do isn't going to be as hard or as in demand as LLMs devour more of the market share and growth of the human economic field and attention economy.

The LLMs are likely going to increase demand for software, but in doing so they'll eat more of the market share.

ZIRP, Section 174, industry-wide layoffs, offshoring, and now this. Plan accordingly. I'm sure there are gradients with tremendous success to be had, but for many there will be a decrease in fitness.
by adolph | 2025-06-09 13:32:15+00:00
Because of this, I agree that it is a very good thing for the US to have more AI compute, including more AI supercomputers, than China. But if you take this argument seriously at all, the implication of the UAE deal becomes plain: this is a significant power boost for the UAE’s autocratic government.

This is a wonderful exposition of how Realpolitik allows one can have an anti-autocracy cake and eat it too.
by atrettel | 2025-06-09 13:32:19+00:00
This is a great point. I'll add that search engines are also unclear about what kind of output they give. As you point out, search engines accept both questions and key words as queries. Arguably you'd want completely different searches/answers for those. Moreover, search engines no longer just output web sites with the key words but also give an "AI overview" in an attempt to keep you on their site, which is contrary to what search engines have traditionally done. Previously search engines were something you pass through but they now try to position themselves as destinations instead.

I'd argue that search engines should stick to just outputting relevant websites and let LLMs give you an overview. Both technologies are complimentary and fulfill different roles.
by inejge | 2025-06-09 13:33:13+00:00
> I had a 386 with 4MB RAM and am not the least nostalgic about it. In fact damn near everything about that machine was limiting and something I couldn't wait to replace with something newer.

It is difficult to be nostalgic about the machines lacking, for want of a better term, a soul. PC compatibles are as soulless as it gets. Quite soon after introduction, they became part of the endless treadmill of faster CPU - more memory - better graphics - larger HDDs. (That doesn't stop people being nostalgic about software running on PCs, again with that same basic characteristic.)
by voidhorse | 2025-06-09 13:33:24+00:00
Great take. In my view, a major issue right now is that the people pushing these tools on the populace have never read Barthes and in many cases probably don't even know the name. If they had an inkling of literary and social history, they might be a bit more cautious and conscientious of how they frame these tools to people.

We are currently subject to the whims of corporations with absurd amounts of influence and power, run by people who barely understand the sciences, who likely know nothing about literary history beyond what the chatbot can summarize for them, have zero sociological knowledge or communications understanding, and who don't even write well-engineered code 90% of the time but are instead ok with shipping buggy crap to the masses as long as it means they get to be the first ones to do so, all this coupled with an amount of hubris unmatched by even the greatest protagonists of greek literature. Society has given some of the stupidest people the greatest amount of resources and power, and now we are paying for it.
by shortrounddev2 | 2025-06-09 13:34:34+00:00
If you are paying huge sums of money to effectively bribe the government to do what you want, you are the bad guy

Edit:

If you think politics is entirely about budgets and taxes and not human rights or a fundamental respect for democratic governance, then yes, they're close - in that sense, there's barely any difference between the Government of the UK and that of Hungary's Victor Orban, since they both provide universal healthcare to their people. However, there's obviously major differences between these governments that go well beyond the myopic lens of stated party policy positions.
by tough | 2025-06-09 13:34:56+00:00
if its of your interest, i was investigating this and found out all the big labs like openai offer and indemnity clause for enterprise customers, that is supposed to assure you that it doesn't output non-compliant license code (like copyrighted or AGPL or whatever), BUT you have to accept them keeping all your logs, give them access, and let them and their lawyers do build their own case in case of getting sued.

I guess they're mostly selling insurance to bigCo's, and saying, hey we have the money to go to law, and the interests to win such a case, so we'll handle it
by mort96 | 2025-06-09 13:35:06+00:00
Nothing is perfect, but some things let you validate the answer. Search engines give you search results, not an answer. You can use the traditional methods for evaluating the reliability of a resource. An academic resource focused on the toxicity of various kinds of chemicals is probably fairly trustworthy, while a blog from someone trying to sell you healing crystals probably isn't.

When you're using ChatGPT to find information, you have no information if what it's regurgitating is from a high reliability source or a low reliability source, or if it's just a random collection of words whose purpose is simply to make grammatical sense.
by alex43578 | 2025-06-09 13:35:38+00:00
Surprise, you’re already tracked in a dozen harmless ways that enable modern life: drivers license, Social Security number, birth certificate, etc; even before you get into quasi-public records like credit reporting, bank accounts, and insurance.

Acting like showing ID to an immigration official is some unprecedented intrusion is absurd. Fly domestically, shop at Costco, or buy a 6 pack of beer and you’ll end up showing more “papers” than a typical interaction with Customs/ICE, assuming you’re not illegal.
by llm_nerd | 2025-06-09 13:36:09+00:00
The comparison is quite literally predicated on seeking an answer via both mechanisms. And the simple truth is that for an enormous percentage of users, that is indeed precisely how they use both search engines and LLMs: They want an answer to a question, maybe with some follow-up links so if that isn't satisfactory they can use heuristics to dig deeper.

Which is precisely why Google started adding their AI "answers". The web has kind of become a cancer -- the sites that game SEO the most seem to have the trashiest, most user-hostile behaviour, so search became unpleasant for most -- so Google just replaces the outbound visit conceptually.
by motorest | 2025-06-09 13:36:48+00:00
> Yes, that's what the article is about.

Not really. Hand-waving over hypothetical unit costs means nothing. In fact, I wonder if that's why the article lists no specifics on the cost structure of the spot instance based approach, and why the cloud 101 approach is spun to be such a surprise.

> And yes, the comment is confidently wrong as said in that page.

You're literally trying to gaslight when all it takes to verify your claim is a single click. Wild.