MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by vlovich123 | 2025-06-26 21:12:09+00:00
OP is wrong that there's no tooling. All the C++ tooling that I'm aware of (e.g. ASAN/UBSAN/MSAN/TSAN) is still available on Rust. Additionally, it has MIRI which can check certain code constructs for defined behavior at the MIR level which, unlike sanitizers, validates that all code is sound according to language rules regardless of what would be run by generated assembly; this validation includes unsafe code which still has to follow the language rules. C/C++ doesn't have anything like that for undefined behavior by the way.

However, if I can apply a nitpicking attitude here that you're applying to their argument about the ease with which unsafe can be kept out of a complex codebase. unsafe is pretty baked into the language because there's either simply convenient constructs that the Rust compiler can't ever prove safely (e.g. doubly-linked list), can't prove safely today (e.g. various accessors like split), or is required for basic operations (e.g. allocating memory). Pretending like you can really forbid unsafe code wholesale in your dependency chain is not practical & this is ignoring soundness bugs within the compiler itself. That doesn't detract from the inherent advantage of safe by default.
by tines | 2025-06-26 21:13:01+00:00
It doesn't really matter what something can be used for, it matters what it will be used for most of the time. Television can be used for reading books, but people mostly don't use it that way. Smartphones can be used for creation, but people mostly don't use them that way. You've got Satya Nadella on a stage saying AI makes you a better friend because it can reply to messages from your friends for you. We are creating, and to a large extent have created, a world that we will not want to live in, as evidenced by skyrocketing depression and the loneliness epidemic.

Read Neil Postman or Daniel Boorstin or Marshall McLuhan or Sherry Turkle. The medium is the message.
by renewiltord | 2025-06-26 21:13:01+00:00
Dear god, the endless reams of "woe is us" are worse than any LLM generated content.

> Elon Musk - whose xAI data centre is being powered by nearly three dozen on-site gas turbines that are poisoning the air of nearby majority-Black neighborhoods in Memphis - went on the Joe Rogan podcast

Christ, who even reads this stuff. This constant palavering is genuinely too much.
by TeMPOraL | 2025-06-26 21:13:18+00:00
TL;DR: I pay, I always try to use SOTA models if I can.

I pay for them; until last week, this was almost entirely[0] pay-as-you-go use of API keys via TypingMind (for chat) and Aider (for coding). The QR code project I linked was made by Aider. Total cost was around $1 IIRC.

API options were, until recently, very cheap. Most of my use was around $2 to $5 per project, sometimes under $2. I mostly worked with GPT-4, then Sonnet 3.5, briefly with Deepseek-R1; by the time I got around to testing Claude Sonnet 3.7, Google released Gemini 2.5 Pro, which was substantially cheaper, so I stuck to the latter.

Last week I got myself the Max plan for Anthropic (first 5x, then the 20x one) specifically for Claude Code, because using pay-as-you-go pricing with top models in the new "agentic" way got stupidly expensive; $100 or $200 per month may sound like a lot, but less so when taking the API route would have you burn this much in a day or two.

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[0] - I have the $20/month "Plus" subscription to ChatGPT, which I keep because of gpt-4o image generation and o3 being excellent as my default model for random questions/problems, many of them not even coding-related. I could access o3 via API, but this gets stupidly expensive for casual use; subscription is a better deal now.
by danans | 2025-06-26 21:13:24+00:00
> The only inconvenience is the package takes about 10 days of delivery, no other differences. My company located in Texas is letting go the final employees at the end of this month, some 45 emps.

That's sad for those employees in Texas, but relatedly, why were you manufacturing in Texas before? Was it just quick delivery or were labor rates lower in Texas?

Based on your description, your product sounds like it requires highly skilled assembly labor.

How much would labor rates have to fall in Texas for you to move manufacturing back despite the tariffs?
by mulippy | 2025-06-26 21:13:27+00:00
pedestrian rehash of standard ai critique talking points without novel insight. author conflates pattern recognition with "dehumanization" through definitional sleight-of-hand - classic motte-and-bailey where reasonable concerns about bias/labor displacement get weaponized into apocalyptic framing. the empathy-as-weakness musk quote does heavy lifting for entire thesis but represents single data point from notoriously unreliable narrator. building systematic critique around elon's joe rogan appearance is methodologically weak. technical description of llms as "word salad generators" betrays surface-level understanding. dismissing statistical pattern matching as inherently meaningless ignores that human cognition relies heavily on similar processes. the "no understanding" claim assumes consciousness/intentionality as prerequisite for useful output, which is philosophically naive. bias automation concerns valid but not uniquely ai-related - bureaucratic systems have always encoded societal prejudices. author ignores potential for ai to surface and quantify existing biases that human administrators would otherwise perpetuate invisibly. deskilling argument contradicts itself - simultaneously claims ai doesn't improve productivity while arguing it threatens jobs. if tools are genuinely useless, market forces would eliminate them. more likely: author conflates short-term adjustment costs with long-term displacement effects. "surveillance technology" characterization relies on guilt-by-association rather than technical analysis. any information processing system could theoretically enable surveillance - this includes spreadsheets, databases, filing cabinets. the public sector romanticism is revealing. framing government work as inherently altruistic ignores institutional incentives, regulatory capture, and bureaucratic self-preservation. "mission-oriented" workers can implement harmful policies with genuine conviction. strongest section addresses automation bias and human-in-the-loop failures, but author doesn't engage with literature on hybrid human-ai systems or institutional design solutions.

-claude w/ eigenbot absolute mode system setting
by munificent | 2025-06-26 21:13:39+00:00
I suspect that if you find a place where rent prices are reasonable, you'll find it's actually surprisingly hard to find job there that pays a good wage, healthcare that keeps you healthy, decent schools to educate your children, and a community that shares your values and interests.

People don't move to high cost of living areas because they want nice TVs. Fancy stuff is the same price everywhere.
by thaumasiotes | 2025-06-26 21:14:07+00:00
> The reason traditional material doesn't attempt immersive techniques is because it is much much easier to print a static book than it is to produce interactive and adaptive content.

No, that's not correct.

First off, you can provide immersion with static books. A common favorite here on HN is Lingua Latina per se illustrata ["the Latin tongue explained by itself"].

Second off, there are two reasons that traditional material doesn't do this. The biggest one is student demand; people are afraid of immersion. The second is that the traditional approach is faster. It's lower quality, and it tops out well below the level you hope to reach, but it's faster, not slower. It takes babies a year to learn to say they're hungry. It takes an elementary school class studying a foreign language less than a day.
by serbuvlad | 2025-06-26 21:14:10+00:00
Prioritize goals over the process and what AIs can do doesn't matter.

Want to make a movie? The goal should be getting the movie out, seen by people and reviewed.

Whether it's people captured by film, animations in Blender or AI slop, what matters is the outcome. Is it good? Do people like it?

I do the infrastructure at a department of my Uni as sort of a side-gig. I would have never had the time to learn Ansible, borg, FreeIPA, wireguard, and everything else I have configured now and would have probably resorted to a bunch of messy shell scripts that don't work half the time like the people before me.

But everything I was able to set up I was able to set up in days, because of AI.

Sure, it's really satisfying because I also have a deep understanding of the fundamentals, and I can debug problems when AI fails, and then I ask it "how does this work" as a faster Google/wiki.

I've tried windsurf but given up because the AI does something that doesn't work and I can give it the prompts to find a solution (+ think for myself) much faster than it can figure out itself (and probably at the cost of a lot less tokens).

But the fact that I enjoy the process doesn't matter. And the moment I can click a button and make a webapp, I have so many ideas in my drawer for how I could improve the network at Uni.

I think the problem people have is that they work corporate jobs where they have no freedom to choose their own outcomes so they are basically just doing homework all their life. And AI can do homework better than them.
by vlovich123 | 2025-06-26 21:14:33+00:00
> Even C/C++ can be made memory safe, cf. https://github.com/pizlonator/llvm-project-deluge

> Fil-C achieves this using a combination of concurrent garbage collection and invisible capabilities (each pointer in memory has a corresponding capability, not visible to the C address space)

With significant performance and memory overhead. That just isn't the same ballpark that Rust is playing in although hugely important if you want to bring forward performance insensitive C code into a more secure execution environment.
by doright | 2025-06-26 21:14:37+00:00
What is even more insidious is if your own abusers adopt the clinical methodology and label you with a condition (ADHD in my case) such that you as a young person are incentivized to forget about the abuse they themselves perpetrated. I have lost decades of treatment to this exact phenomenon and it was completely iatrogenic.

I no longer think any label suits my lived experience anymore other than "traumatized", which is something that happened to me (as opposed to "ADHD", which is something I am).
by NoMoreNicksLeft | 2025-06-26 21:14:53+00:00
>I think the writing is on the wall, though. There has been an absolute ton of hardcore litigation in the last decade on the legality of bail, and the intermediate appellate courts are striking it down.

I think this bodes ill, myself. I expect a slowly-but-steadily rising culture that just skips out on trials altogether, because there are no immediate (or even longterm) costs to doing so. Though you might argue that in such cases judges will just issue bench warrants, this too will stop when everyone involved becomes too apathetic and demoralized to do so.

Bail would be fine if it were carefully set such that the person can always scrape and afford it, enough that they wouldn't risk losing it but still low enough that they can gather it. Is there any reason at all that your anecdote had the judge set it to $20k? That's ridiculous. And for a homeless man as well... that's constructive bail denial. That judge should be censured and forced to retire.

Just once I would like to see a policy adjustment that wasn't absurd overcompensation. I turn 51 in a few months so I've got maybe 2 decades left but I don't think it's going to happen.
by passwordoops | 2025-06-26 21:15:18+00:00
Counter-counter : there is nothing as intellectually miserable and antisocial as large corporations and institutions replacing Helpdesks with draconian automated systems.

Also, try to come up with a less esoteric example than Discord Help channels. In fact, this is the issue with most defenses of LLMs. The benefits are so niche, or minor, that the example itself shows why they are not worth the money being poured in
by yupitsme123 | 2025-06-26 21:15:31+00:00
I said cheaper. Not better. What difference does it make if it's better if only a few people can afford it. I also don't accept longer lifespans as something that is always worth pursuing.

You also didn't address my point that those technologies do nothing to solve the real problems that real people want solved. There's a strong possibility that they'll just exacerbate them.
by reaperducer | 2025-06-26 21:15:34+00:00
To say that this is pure fantasy when there are more and more demos of humanoid robots doing menial tasks

A demo is one thing. Being deployed in the real world is something else.

The only thing I've seen humanoid robots doing is dancing and occasionally a backflip or two. And even most of that is with human control.

The only menial task I ever saw a humanoid robot do so far is to take bags off of a conveyor belt, flatten them out and put them on another belt. It did it at about 1/10th the speed of a human, and some still ended up on the floor. This was about a month ago, so the state of the art is still in the demo stage.
by AshleyGrant | 2025-06-26 21:15:38+00:00
> I assumed, like President said, that it will be China, not me, who pays the tariffs. I was very much wrong.

Folks were screaming it from the rooftops for months prior to the election. So many folks, yourself included, refused to accept reality and now we all suffer the pain.

I would say "Maybe folks will learn!" But I know they won't. US voters as a bloc seem to have an incredibly short memory. They'll forget about all of this pain and stupidity within moments of Trump leaving office.
by ololobus | 2025-06-26 21:15:38+00:00
I'd totally agree with this point if we assume that efficiency/performance growth will flatten at some point. For example, if it gets logarithmic soon, then the progress will grow slowly over the next decades. And then, yes, it will likely look like that current software developers, engineers, scientists, etc., just got an enormously powerful tool, which knows many languages almost perfectly and _briefly_ knows the entire internet.

Yet, if we trust all these VC-backed AI startups and assume that it will continue growing rapidly, e.g., at least linearly, over the next years, I'm afraid that it may indeed reach a superhuman _intelligence_ level (let's say p99 or maybe even p999 of the population) in most of the areas. And then why do you need this top of the notch smart-ass human biologist if you can as well buy a few racks of TPUs?
by alganet | 2025-06-26 21:15:43+00:00
I think AI could have been great.

It's just that greed took over, and it took over big time.

Several shitty decisions in a row: scaling it too much, stealing data, marketing it before it can deliver, government use. The list goes on and on.

This idea that there's something inherent about the technology that's dehumanizing is an old trick. The issue lies in whoever is making those shitty decisions, not the tech itself.

There's obviously a fog surrounding every single discussion about this stuff. Probably the outcome of another remarkably shitty decision by someone (so many people parroting marketing ideas, it's dumb).

We'll be ok as humans, trust me on this one. It's too big to not fail.
by mindslight | 2025-06-26 21:15:54+00:00
I would think all of them, because it's just another prepaid SIM like many people's actual phones. On that front, Ally SMS stopped working with GVoice (I just do the voice call when they want to nag, that still works). And way back I experienced some random issues with Cap1 - it seemed like they were trying to grab the subscriber record as a form of verification (sigh).
by shadowgovt | 2025-06-26 21:16:05+00:00
Sorry about the bad experience.

What this administration's model of tariffs completely misses is how fungible labor and manufacturing are in the world now. Business is as much about strength of information as strength of arm or strength of steel. It's hard to believe they had any professionals in the room when they came up with this "protectionist" scheme.

A good analogy a friend once gave me was that there are two ways to build a car in the US. You can tool up an industry ecosystem where you can gather (or produce) base materials and then shape and combine them into small parts, make the small parts into larger parts, do final assembly, and roll them off an assembly line. Or, you can take about as much land as you'd use for that, maybe a bit less, and grow corn. Lots of corn. Lots and lots of corn. Then you put that corn on a boat. Ten months later, that boat comes back with cars on it.

When the world is that varied a place, one country trying to jam its finger in the dkye via tariffs is a fool's errand. The economy will interpret artificial cost as damage and route around it.
by Vegenoid | 2025-06-26 21:16:22+00:00
Do we have examples of LLMs being used successfully in these scenarios? I’m skeptical that the insufferable users will actually be satisfied and able to be helped by an LLM, unless the LLM is actually presented as a human, which seems unethical. It also hinges on an LLM being able to get the user to provide the required information accurately, without lying or simply getting frustrated, angry, and unwilling to cooperate.

I’m not sure there is a solution to help people who don’t come to the table willing to put in the effort required to get help. This seems like a deep problem present in all kinds of ways in society, and I don’t think smarter chatbots are the solution. I’d love to be wrong.
by perching_aix | 2025-06-26 21:16:42+00:00
I think you're forgetting about how e.g. StackOverflow, a Q&A forum, exhibited basically the exact same issues I just ran through. In general, the history of both the unnecessary hostility of helpers and the near-insulting cluelessness and laziness of users on public forums is a very long and extensive one. It's not a format issue, I don't think.
by viraptor | 2025-06-26 21:16:46+00:00
How does this story match up with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43590072 where you post after the tariff announcement (April 4th):

> Noone in their right mind will start building factories in USA because of temporary tariffs that all might go away with an executive order and a stroke of a pen comes January 2029.

(I checked because the story just smells weird...)
Show HN: Turn your RSS feeds into a NotebookLM-style daily podcast
by telecomsteve | 2025-06-26 21:17:47+00:00
About a year ago, I built an RSS reader than had some features I couldn't find elsewhere at the time (specifically topic/keyword muting). I recently added the ability to listen to a daily podcast, generated from an individuals personal RSS feeds.

While I think the idea is cool, I am curious if others would listen to a podcast they know is AI generated, on a more permanent basis? Would anyone subscribe to a personal AI podcast within their regular podcast client?

AI content within social media seems poorly received (passive consumption), but NotebookLM was praised (perhaps because it is not passive engagement). Any feedback or experiences would be amazing. Thanks!
by xk_id | 2025-06-26 21:18:03+00:00
Vim existed before Jetbrains IDEs. It’s also much more general. I use Vim to write literary works and manage my knowledge base. There was also a guy who was using Vim as his IRC client. Vim can be the only program you need for editing text, which turns out is most of what we do on a computer. It’s nice to have a single tool for this, that never resists when you try to adapt it. Vim is actually a great example of the practicality of a good philosophy.

Edit: I doubt there’s any feature in the more specialised editors, which you can’t also get from Vim.
by lotharcable | 2025-06-26 21:18:13+00:00
Appimage is terrible. It works by trying to make applications in appimages adhere to a lowest common denominator between Linux distros... which amounts to forcing application developers to develop for the oldest version of Linux appimage supports.

Nix is a huge pain to deal with.

Nix makes me think of the old Zawinski joke of:

"Some people, when confronted with a problem, think 'I know, I'll use regular expressions.' Now they have two problems,"

Except there are less upsides for using Nix over something like OCI.
by marssaxman | 2025-06-26 21:18:21+00:00
Either I don't understand what you mean by direct communication, or we have different impressions of what the "indirect phone" proposal meant. What I heard didn't sound so different from the way I already use my phone - I almost exclusively send and receive messages, asynchronously, rather than having synchronous voice conversations. I thus took the proposal to be about automated ways of generating and digesting these messages. What were you envisioning?
by NoMoreNicksLeft | 2025-06-26 21:18:22+00:00
>They would have to expand the courts to thousands of more courts to get that done.

Possibly. But if they're denying justice because "it would cost too much to do it correctly", then maybe the taxpayers just have to pony up more cash.

But it's also possibly the case that they don't need more courts, they just have to stop focusing on bullshit drug charges that absolutely no one gives a shit about. If drug addicts want to commit slow suicide doing the stuff, let them. If you want to instead focus on the drug dealers, there are simple policies that would put street dealers out of business instantly.

Your objections don't really line up with your goals, no matter what your goals happen to be. Think about it all a bit more carefully.
by octo888 | 2025-06-26 21:18:24+00:00
3000 pps / 6 Mbps is pretty much nothing for that server. I wouldn't change random network sysctl options.

> This suggests to me that the bottleneck isn’t CPU or app logic, but something deeper in the stack

Just a word of caution - I have seen plenty of people speed towards eg "it must be a bug in the kernel" when 98% of the time it is the app or some config.
by jofla_net | 2025-06-26 21:18:39+00:00
It is, in fact, all insulation. The technology, that is. It cuts out face-to-face, vid-to-vid, voice-to-voice, and even direct text as in sms or email. To the point that agents will be advocating for users instead of people even typing back to one another. Until and unless it affects the reproduction cycle, and I think it already has, people will fail to socialize since there is also zero customary expectation to do so (that was the surprisingly good thing about old world customs), so only the overtly gregarious will end up doing it. Kind of a long tailed hyperbolic endgame but, well, there it is.

Edit: one point i forgot to make is that it has already become absurd how different someones online persona or confidence level is when they are AFK, its as if theyve been reduce to an infantile state.
by joshAg | 2025-06-26 21:18:42+00:00
so just to confirm, this HN submission [ 1] should have linked to this pdf of the paper [2] and put the article [3] that is the current link for the post as a comment?

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44381297 [2]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.19244 [3]: https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-pyramid-like-shape-always-lands-the-same-side-up-20250625/
by fwip | 2025-06-26 21:19:00+00:00
I guess I don't understand why you so strongly believe that CuriouslyC's comment reflects an uninformed opinion without any basis in fact.

I see somebody saying something on here, I tend to assume that they have a reason for believing it.

If your opinions differ from theirs, you could talk about what you believe, instead of incorrectly saying that a CEO can only be responsible for everything or nothing that a company does.
by kristoff_it | 2025-06-26 21:19:18+00:00
Zig is starting to migrate to custom backends for debug builds (instead of using LLVM) plus incremental compilation.

All Zig code is built in a single compilation unit and everything is compiled from scratch every time you change something, including all dependencies and all the parts of the stdlib that you use in your project.

So you've been comparing Zig rebuilds that do all the work every time with Rust rebuilds that cache all dependencies.

Once incremental is fully released you will see instant rebuilds.