by CapricornNoble | 2025-06-22 17:30:34+00:00
> That mostly damages a private company and doesn't cost Israel much in the grand scheme of things considering Israel has 2 additional large ports.

Ansar Allah suppresses the port of Eilat while Iran suppresses the port of Haifa ( https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/shipping-company-m... ). I don't think Israel can be adequately supplied by the throughput of Ashdod alone.

> That mixes a lot of different things and is mostly false.

No, it is NOT "mostly false".

Does Israel have an undeclared nuclear arsenal? YES.

Does Israel occupy territory in multiple neighboring countries? YES (in both Syria and Lebanon, see: https://www.972mag.com/southern-syria-new-israeli-occupation... and https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-will-leave-...)

Is Israel conducting an ethnic cleansing? See my clarification below, but also YES.

>The claim of ethnic cleansing is also false and shows a deep misunderstanding of the situation in Gaza.

Well if we want to get technical, Israel is conducting a genocide, as ethnic cleansing is not precisely defined. Any rational human being can pull up the definition of genocide on the UN website and conclude for themselves by assessing each criteria, particularly #1 and #3. It's not complicated. https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

We see the stream of images of dead, maimed, and starving children. We have the first-hand accounts of western aid workers and doctors trying to save lives in Gaza, reporting anomalies that even veteran conflict doctors haven't seen before (such as disproportionate head and torso small arms wounds on children). And perhaps more importantly, we see and hear the things Israeli politicians say about Palestinians.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/senior-israeli-official-s...

Should we not take a member of the Knesset at his word? https://kol-barama.co.il/item/%D7%97%D7%9B-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%A...

Should we not take Israeli Cabinet Ministers at their word, for establishing intent to destroy these people? https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-says-gaza-to-be-total...

and such language is not a new development, here's the Defense Minister back in 2018: https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/there-are-no-inn...

> There are many civilian casualties and that is indeed horrible and tragic, but blaming Israel for it is contributing to the death toll.

Why are you using passive language? Why are there civilian casualties? They don't just magically appear on their own. There would be no civilian casualties if Israel wasn't dropping bombs on peoples' homes. There would be no civilian casualties if the IDF wasn't ambushing convoys of first responders.

> If you're such a believer in Islamic logic then please explain why Hamas is still holding 53 Israeli hostages?

I will not allow you to deflect from the core issue at hand by pivoting the conversation to Hamas. The point is to compare and assess the two principle STATE ACTORS, one of which sits on a nuclear arsenal while massacring civilians, and one of which is on the receiving end of "preemptive strikes" while not possessing equivalent weapons.

> Hamas sees Israel as a western nation. It believes that without western support Israel will collapse.

Hamas isn't wrong, which is probably why Israel spends such a massive amount of treasure and effort on propaganda directed at western audiences. The Israeli air force would have been grounded months ago if not for a blank check to get fuel and ordnance from the US. Israel's jets drink more aviation fuel than Israel can ever refine itself.

> It encourages them to hoard the aid sent by the west and produce a picture of starvation amongst their own people.

Hamas aren't the ones intercepting aid shipments in international waters. Israel is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/02/europe/gaza-flotilla-ship...