MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by bob1029 | 2025-06-12 07:28:50+00:00
I think maybe, but I wouldn't go about it like this.

I'd have it build an internal DSL on top of a preexisting language that millions of dollars of data science and compute have already considered.

The "builder pattern" is probably the most capable path I've seen out of LLMs. These models are really good at building type hierarchies that support this. They're also really good at using these types given some examples.

Other DSL paths like SQL are more marginal in my experience. Terse, declarative languages seem to work poorly unless we are using something verbatim from the training data.

Having the LLM propose a whole language feels like starting over from zero unless having it create arbitrary toy languages is the end goal.
by charcircuit | 2025-06-12 07:29:02+00:00
AOSP does not include GMS or the Play Store.

>it seemed like a bit of a fraud (on Google's part) because it was fundamentally gimped.

AOSP is designed to be customized by vendors before they ship a device with it. Development of AOSP goes towards the shared OS pieces that actually get used and not towards things which would just get swapped out. Which is why the stock user space has not had much investment.
by gf000 | 2025-06-12 07:29:52+00:00
But my gripe with your first point is that by the time I write an exact detailed step-by-step prompt for them, I could have written the code by hand. Like there is a reason we are not using fuzzy human language in math/coding, it is ambiguous. I always feel like doing those funny videos where you have to write exact instructions on how to make a peanut butter sandwich, getting deliberately misinterpreted. Except it is not fun at all when you are the one writing the instructions.

2. It's very questionable that they will get any smarter, we have hit the plateau of diminishing returns. They will get more optimized, we can run them more times with more context (e.g. chain of thought), but they fundamentally won't get better at reasoning.
by ObiKenobi | 2025-06-12 07:30:21+00:00
I do not agree with the "you know within a week"-take. I'm now 14 years working in IT-Security. 9 of those years for the same company.

I got my next job through a headhunter. The first weeks I had a really good feeling of the company I liked it there after a few months it got worse and worse like they couldn't hide all the bad things anymore. I quit, next job was more or less the same. I quit. My current job? The first month I thought to my self "oh my god, where do I got here?", but now a six months in I really like it.

Maybe also other factors have some plays here like my move from consulting into an internal role, colleagues, the overall freedom, but imho it's hard to generalize something like that.
by FirmwareBurner | 2025-06-12 07:30:53+00:00
Several things you keep repeating but you still haven't explained despite me questioning you several times about it:

>I disagree - Trump is sending in federal enforcement because he intends to make the situation worse.

How does the presence of law enforcement make the situation worse? When you see the police coming in your neighborhood, do you get the urge to rob a store and set your neighbor's car on fire?

>Because we live in a democracy, not a fascist dictatorship?

Since when is enforcing existing laws a dictatorship?

> If people such as yourself are his supporters, then I'm nervous!

Those are some pretty defamatory accusations. Where did I say I support Trump? Just because I criticize LA leadership doesn't mean I'm a Trump supporter

>California is one of the states that contributes significantly more to the federal government in taxes than it takes

You're deflecting again. I asked you why crime is so high and leadership quality so low in LA despite the high Cali taxes.

>You should be more angry at states like Louisiana and Georgia.

Why? What's this whataboutism? We're talking about LA leadership because that's where LA taxpayers pay for.

And BTW, Louisiana and Georgia have lower violent crime rates than LA.
by flanbiscuit | 2025-06-12 07:31:16+00:00
I'm moving away from Pixel Phones for my next Android. Going to switch back to Samsung. I currently have a Pixel 8 and my screen went completely green and glitchy yesterday (Google "android green screen", it's a hardware issue). It freaked me out because Im in the beginning of a long vacation with tickets held digitally in various apps and email. Thankfully I eventually figured out the solution which is ridiculous, when it happens again I just need to squeeze the bottom of my phone. My last Pixel phone just completely died on me randomly as I unplugged it from my car. And I've had previous Pixel phones just ignore calls, sending them straight to voicemail (which is a common issue if you Google that as well).

I will miss having stock android and timely updates, I will hate Samsung bloatware and apps I can't uninstall, but it's I hope to have more stability and longer life for my phones. In barely getting 2 years of life from my Pixels. I'm also seriously considering iPhones as well.
by KronisLV | 2025-06-12 07:31:40+00:00
> I still don't understand the benefit of relying on someone/something else to write your code and then reading it, understand it, fixing it, etc.

Friction.

A lot of people are bad at getting started (like writer's block, just with code), whereas if you're given a solution for a problem, then you can tweak it, refactor it and alter it in other ways for your needs, without getting too caught up in your head about how to write the thing in the first place. Same with how many of my colleagues have expressed that getting started on a new project from 0 is difficult, because you also need to setup the toolchain and bootstrap a whole app/service/project, very similar to also introducing a new abstraction/mechanism in an existing codebase.

Plus, with LLMs being able to process a lot of data quickly, assuming you have enough context size and money/resources to use that, it can run through your codebase in more detail and notice things that you might now, like: "Oh hey, there are already two audit mechanisms in the codebase in classes Foo and Bar, we might extract the common logic and..." that you'd miss on your own.
by buu700 | 2025-06-12 07:33:21+00:00
Agreed. I've said exactly the same thing before. If GPT-4 from two years ago had turned out to be the endgame of LLM technology, and we collectively spent the following 20 years integrating those capabilities throughout the economy, even that would be a profound change to the world as we know it.

If we froze LLM technology at present-day capabilities and spent the next 20 years on that, I'd expect it to ultimately look transformative in a similar way to the Internet. I mean if you told me in fall 2022 that 2.5 years later I'd be building software by meta-prompting and meta-meta-prompting AI agents to write code overnight while I slept, I'd assume that we were fictional characters in a Black Mirror episode.
by itake | 2025-06-12 07:33:58+00:00
just wondering, why that one? it looks small, which is probably doesn't require a gpu.

The dataset seems to be images of high production value (e.g. limited races, staged poses, etc). If I have time, I will compare it with Bumble's model, but I think the images I'm trying to identify are closer to Bumble's training set.
by leakycap | 2025-06-12 07:35:41+00:00
It is clear to me that Apple's leadership is too scared to face unvetted questions. I hadn't thought about that it was also a total lack of respect for devs.

The podcast linked from February was eye-opening ... Marco Arment and David Smith are developers I've listened to admired for years and they feel even more strongly than I do that Apple is lost/losing themselves.

https://www.relay.fm/radar/312

#312: Our Changing Relationship with Apple February 13th, 2025 · 29 minutes How our values have diverged and our perceived relationship has changed with Apple, forcing our motivations for iOS development to evolve.
by culebron21 | 2025-06-12 07:36:59+00:00
This whitewashing and hiding of everything essential is similar to Le Corbusier's aesthetics. He stripped buildings facades of any aesthetical elements, even pure geometrical ones, because he had some mental condition, that complex things bothered him.

The same in the computer UIs has been going on for last ~15 years. Astonishingly it's the company that boasts usability/ergonomics that does it. And sadly, every desktop out there (KDE, MATE, Gnome) does its best to imitate Mac OS.

I wonder if anyone in this part of "tech" industry does any sort of measurements of what they produce.

I've recently been given a Mac laptop at job (they refuse to support Linux), and the Finder UI is terrible exactly as the author describes.
by prennert | 2025-06-12 07:36:59+00:00
You probably found it already when doing your background search, but there is an acoup blog post about why the Industrial Revolution did not happen during the Roman period: https://acoup.blog/2022/08/26/collections-why-no-roman-indus...

There might be some inspiration in there to guide the story towards breaking some of the chicken and egg problems. Maybe the Romans find a way (and reason) to exploit the English coal deposits and start encountering the same problems the English did eventually: how to pump water out of shafts.
by mewpmewp2 | 2025-06-12 07:37:01+00:00
I used to think that I was an atheist, but I realized nothing can be proven presently in any way even if I have opinions, so I decided I have to be agnostic.

So e.g. I have hunches that there's no way there is a God that's in any way as religions might think it is, and I do have a hunch that we somehow happened from probably deterministic chain reactions, but it's a hunch, it's hard to call it a belief, or it's hard to think that I believe there is no God. It's more like a hunch or a thought. Because for all I know we could be some Alien's schoolwork project, but I don't think we are.

In any case as a human I feel like I have evolutionary drive to hold someone responsible, so again I demand whoever is behind all of that to give us those answers. But that is my evolutionary drive, not that I think there's actually someone like that. It's the conflict of evolutionary brain vs the logical thoughts brain.

These different parts in the brain can also agree to many different things, which can ultimately make me much more agreeable person, if I decide to pick one of those opinions.

But I can be very disagreeable too, because I think Big Five said it can lead to success?
by TowerTall | 2025-06-12 07:37:33+00:00
I remember when we migrated from Visual Source Safe to TFS at my place of work. I was in charge of the migration and we hit errors and opened a ticket with Microsoft Premier Support. The ticket ended up being assigned to one of creators of Source Safe who replied "What you are seeing is not possible". He did manage to solve it in the end after a lot of head scratching.
by Huxley1 | 2025-06-12 07:38:01+00:00
The first few weeks at a new job always feel fresh and exciting. It usually takes a few months before I start to really get a sense of whether the job is a good fit.

Over time, I begin to see how I feel about the work itself, how I get along with coworkers, and how the daily pace and expectations fit me.

Curious if others have their own rule of thumb for figuring this out.
by gf000 | 2025-06-12 07:40:10+00:00
You are just looking at the wrong people to compare.

Leonardo Da Vinci would be a PhD student working on some obscure sub-sub-sub field of something and only 6 other people on the world understanding how marvelously genius he is. The reason they don't get to such a status is that human knowledge is like a circle. A single person can work on the circumference of this circle, but they are limited by what they can learn of this circle. As society improved, we have expanded the radius of the circle greatly, and now an expert can only be an expert in a tiny tiny blob on the circumference, while Leonardo could "see" a good chunk of the whole circle.

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"Thought leader and inventor" are VC terms of no substance and are 100% not who I would consider smart people on average. Luck is a much more common attribute among them.
by ownagefool | 2025-06-12 07:41:11+00:00
I'm a bit confused by your post here.

> The boss wanted to scale but did not care about tech... We saw revenue grow a ton.

Sounds like the boss was largely getting the scaling they wanted?

Every situation is different and there are people with way more experience than me here, but in general terms I've seen the "we need to rewrite / write a component library" from immature tech. Problem is, they're never satifised, so after they're happy and they've moved on, the next person will say the exact same thing.

That's not to say your code didn't have real problems.

But experience tells me that there's tons of well written projects with no users or revenue, and lots of broken shit making money hand over fist. All else being equal, unless you're in a bubble, you're better off with the money.

( Not intended to imply the job wasn't terrible and the product didn't have real actual scaling problems making your life terrible, I've seen that too ).
by Valgrim | 2025-06-12 07:41:13+00:00
A few years ago a popular idea was that our universe existed as an hologram on the surface of a black hole.

Recently I saw also a theory that black hole might not, in fact, exist as we thought, and may be instead something called 'gravastars', where large stars do not collapse in an infinite point but instead the mass reaches a maximum density and hardness and become sorts of empty bubbles.

Now this. It's not exactly a new idea, I remember reading about black hole cosmology 10 years ago.

Sooo... My uneducated, pop-sci fueled imagination now sees the universe as a mathematical function of a fractal looking like a shell with patterns on it, and those patterns interact or 'fold' in a way where the patterns themselves can be thought of as shells with patterns on them, and each shell creates something that, from the inside, looks like a new dimension of space or time, and what we think of as black holes are the next fold. Does that make sense?
by tomhow | 2025-06-12 07:42:21+00:00
That comment was posted barely a half hour ago and nobody has flagged it yet. What does it have to with "double standard moderation practices that are left unmoderated and even praised?"

We can't act on things that the community doesn't tell us about. Almost always, when people point to comments that are egregious but still live as evidence that the moderators approve of them, the reality is that we didn't see them. And a major reason for that is that political flamewar is now such a big part the activity on HN that our small team can't ever see all the comments that are flagged.

But please don't try to use other people's transgressions as an excuse for your own. That's an age-old trick that doesn't work well here.

If you are sincere about being a positive contributor to this community, you can easily show that by making an effort to observe the guidelines. You could also make good-faith efforts to hold other community members to high standards by flagging comments, and if you see anything that's particularly egregious, emailing us.

Edit: you added to your comment after I submitted mine, so I'll add a further response.

We don't care about what side you're arguing for. Often we don't know; we don't have time to figure out what each commentator in a flamewar is on about. The topic of bias has been hurled at HN for as long as it's existed. Dan has an ever-growing list of the complaints we get from each side characterising us as being biased towards the other side [1].

We have guidelines for a reason, which is that if people fill their comments with inflammatory rhetoric, the emotional energy that triggers is what dominates people's perception of the discussion, rather than the substance of the points people are trying to get across.

If you have points to make that have substance, and I know that you do, you need to find a way to get them across without being inflammatory, otherwise it's a waste of everyone's time.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870
by jeroenhd | 2025-06-12 07:44:04+00:00
Didn't Google already demo that with Google Duplex? It's not available here so I can't test it, but I think that's exactly the kind of thing duplex was designed to do.

Although, from a risk avoidance point of view, I'd understand if Google wanted to stay as far away from having AI deal with medication as possible. Who knows what it'll do when it starts concocting new information while ordering medicine.
by tene80i | 2025-06-12 07:44:16+00:00
Eh? I never said I could detect the machine. Only that I would prefer it wasn’t used. I would also prefer not to read a ghostwritten book, even if I would never know it was ghostwritten. The possibility of never knowing something doesn’t mean there’s nothing there to know.

As for the other types of machine help eg photoshop. Yes, it’s an interesting question where to draw the line. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t one. There are lots of areas of human life where the boundary isn’t neat. That doesn’t mean there is no boundary.
by FirmwareBurner | 2025-06-12 07:45:15+00:00
>nobody has flagged it yet[..]We can't act on things that the community doesn't tell us about.

Why do you think that is? Is it not a reflection of the userbase bias? Where comments get flagged not based on rules but based on which political side they are targeting?

>You could also make good-faith efforts to hold other community members to high standards by flagging comments

Doesn't help when others vouch for them to support their ideology.

>We don't care about what side you're arguing for.

You don't, but your userbase does. And your moderation is based on what your userbase flags. So you moderation 100% reflects the bias of the community, hence the biased enforcement of your rules.

Answer me why is my comment here is flagged?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44240839
by gf000 | 2025-06-12 07:46:17+00:00
I mean, how docker works (which is mostly a human construct with its own peculiarities) is not what I would use as an example - this is more like a board game that has its own rules and you just learnt them. Ancient people had their own "games" with rulesets. It's not a "fundamental truth".

Societal smartness might be something like an average student knowing that we are made from cells, some germ theory over bodily fluid inbalances causing diseases, etc, very crude understanding of more elements of physics (electronics). Though unfortunately intellectualism is on a fall, and people come out dumber and dumber from schools all over the world.
by vidarh | 2025-06-12 07:46:34+00:00
Entirely fine to you. To me the criticism made sense given the instructions it was given. To make a minor error just makes it no better than a human.

It did not hallucinate words that weren't in the text - there was a "this", just in the following sentence -, and when you make an error like that, it's quite ironic in this context that you're demanding better precision from a model you have such low opinion of than what you've demonstrated yourself.
by atleastoptimal | 2025-06-12 07:49:39+00:00
Sure, people’s well being as a whole haven’t gotten better since the 1980s, except for

>Air quality (no more leaded gasoline)

>Life expectancy

>Cancer survival rates

>Access to information

>Infant mortality

>Violent crime rates across the western world

>Access to education

>Clean water and food for 4+ billion people

>HIV treatment

>etc

The negativity on this site is insane. They will deny the greatest scientific achievements if it lets them dunk on AI or whoever is the enemy of the week.
by jeroenhd | 2025-06-12 07:49:47+00:00
It's not on the same level in terms of emotion, but I believe the research https://github.com/CorentinJ/Real-Time-Voice-Cloning was based on is mostly oriented around Chinese first (and then English). It seems to work well enough if you and the voice you're cloning speak the same language though I haven't tested it much.
by purpleidea | 2025-06-12 07:50:00+00:00
I always pondered about everything in our universe getting swallowed up continuously merging black holes until all of a sudden "everything" is "in" the black hole and then suddenly that's your big bang, and everything starts all over.

I don't have the Ph.D physics/maths skills to work out the plausibility of any of that (or variations on that) but I've always felt I've been good at coming up with ideas.

Any physicist wants to work with me, I'm https://purpleidea.com/contact/
by sofixa | 2025-06-12 07:50:26+00:00
Alternatively, communications fatigue. How many emails does the average employee get with nonsense that doesn't apply to them? Oh cool, we have a new VP. Oh cool, that department had a charity drive. Oh cool, system I've never heard of is getting replaced by a new one, favourite of this guy I've never heard of.

Add in the various spam (be it attacks or just random vendors trying to sell something).

At some point, people start to zone out and barely skim, if that, most of their work emails. Same with work chats, which are also more prone to people sharing random memes or photos from their picnic last week or their latest lego set.
by jeroenhd | 2025-06-12 07:52:23+00:00
For what it's worth, there are also a whole bunch of models that speak Chinese.

So far the US and China are spearheading AI research, so it makes sense that models optimize for languages spoken there. Spanish is an interesting omission on the US part, but that's probably because most AI researchers in the US speak English even if their native tongue is Spanish.
by tomhow | 2025-06-12 07:53:21+00:00
> Why do you think that is? Is it not a reflection of the userbase bias? Where comments get flagged not based on rules but based on which political side they are targeting?

That comment was a breach of the guidelines but it almost always takes longer than half an hour for a comment to be flagged, and for us to see it, especially on a thread that's over a day old that barely anybody is looking at anymore.

You could flag it yourself. The fact that you didn't makes it seem more like you're trying to prove a point about bias rather than doing your part to support the health of the community.

> Doesn't help when others vouch for them to support their ideology.

People who abuse vouching privileges can have those privileges revoked – if we know about it. Again, when you see this, email us.

The site has all kinds of mechanisms and norms to prevent abuse and dysfunction, but they can only work if people are sincere about making the site better rather than being at war with it.

Edit: Adding this in reply to your addition:

> Answer me why is my comment here is flagged?

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44240839

These parts break the guidelines against assuming bad faith and fulminating:

Bad faith argument.

I've mostly seen change for the sake of change, wrapped in fluffy artsy BS jargon, making it sound like each UI change is the second coming of Christ and fixes world hunger.

They're not especially egregious but when you develop a reputation for breaking the guidelines, your comments are going to attract more flags, and also trigger more complaints made privately to us via email.

We received emails complaining about your comments, including this one, from people who have a good track record of supporting the community and not being politically partisan.

When we receive these kinds of complaints, nobody is complaining about your politics, just about your inflammatory style and guidelines breaches.
by freehorse | 2025-06-12 07:53:35+00:00
The author makes it specific they talk about finetuning "for Knowledge Injection". The give a quote that claims that finetuning is still useful for things like following a specific style, formatting etc. The title they chose could have been a bit more specific and less aphoristic.

What finetuning makes less sense is doing it merely to get a model eg up to date with changes in some library, or to learn a new library it did not know, or, even worse, your codebase. I think this is what OP talks about.