MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by bgwalter | 2025-06-11 01:35:43+00:00
> experts will probably still be much better than novices, as long as they embrace the new tools.

Sure, we'll all get a subscription and subject ourselves to biometric verification in order to continue our profession.

OpenAI's website looks pretty bad. Shouldn't it be the best website in existence if the new Übermensch programmers rely on "AI"?

What about the horrible code quality of "AI" applications in the "scientific" Python sphere? Shouldn't the code have been improved by "AI"?

So many questions and no one shows us the code.
by stephencanon | 2025-06-11 01:36:21+00:00
Worth pointing out that we're already using this in the OS for "real work", so we consider it to be production-usable, despite the 0.x tag. The pre-1.0 tag is really about the fact that we expect to make some changes to the high-level patterns as we do more to adopt Span-based APIs over the coming months.

Which means, yes, using it now is signing up for some source breaks, but they won't be too abrupt and this is considerably more stable than a typical first 0.x release would be.
by gerdesj | 2025-06-11 01:38:11+00:00
I am deliberately keeping away from LLMs for search. I'm old enough to remember finally ditching Altavista for the new upstart Google. I did briefly flirt with Ask Jeeves but it was not good enough.

I don't think anyone has it sorted yet. LLM search will always be flawed due to being a next token guesser - it cannot be trusted for "facts". A LLM fact is not even a considered opinion, it is simply next token guessing. LLMs certainly cannot be trusted for "current affairs" - they will always be out of date, by definition (needs training)

Modern search - Goog or Bing or whatever - seem to be somewhat confused, ad riddled and stuffed with rubbish results at the top.

I've populated a uBlacklist with some popular lists and the results of my own encounters. DDG and co are mostly useful now, for me.
by chrismartin | 2025-06-11 01:38:59+00:00
Hey Sam, does 0.34 watt-hours per query include an amortization of the energy consumed to train the model, or only the marginal energy consumed by inference?

I used to believe this wasn't worth considering (because while training is energy-intensive, once the model is trained we can use it forever.) But in practice it seems like we switch to newer/better models every few months, so a model has a limited period of usefulness.

> (is watt-hours the right unit of measurement here?)

Yes, because we want to measure energy consumed, while watts is only a measure of instantaneous power.
by cosmic_cheese | 2025-06-11 01:39:00+00:00
I’m not disagreeing with you, but rather suggesting that the ceiling for how much the average user can/will leverage customization is surprisingly low.

If we’re looking for levers to pull to help more people become advanced computer users, I believe progressive disclosure combined with design that takes advantage of natural human inclinations (association, spatial memory, etc) are much more powerful. Some of the most effective power users I’ve come across weren’t “tech people” but instead those who’d used iMac for 5-10 years doing photography or audio editing or whatever and had picked up all of the little productivity boosters scattered around the system ready for the user to discover at just the right time.

With that in mind, I think the biggest contributor to reduced computer literacy is actually the direction software design has taken in the past 10-15 years, where proper UI designers have been replaced with anybody who can cobble a mockup together in photoshop, resulting in vast amount of research being thrown out in favor of dribbble trends and vibes. The result is UI that isn’t humanist, doesn’t care to help the user grow, and is made only with looking pretty in slideshows and marketing copy in mind.
by billmcneale | 2025-06-11 01:39:26+00:00
> it's an anti-user feature by definition.

That's an extremely naive take that shows some stark ignorance of the tech and market forces at work.

From a tech standpoint, Denuvo negatively impacting performance has been debunked many times over (see my previous post about that).

On the economical side, you need to realize that whenever you are playing and enjoying a game, it's most likely due to the fact that the previous games sold by that developer have been successful in making money, which was most likely made possible by Denuvo.

In other words, making piracy harder allows the next generation of games to be created.
by trebligdivad | 2025-06-11 01:40:06+00:00
Nice! I'm running on CPU only, so it's interesting to compare - the Magistral-Small-2506_Q8_0.gguf runs at under 2 tokens/s on my 16 core, but your UD-IQ2_XXS gets about 5.5 tokens/s which is fast enough to be useful - but it does hallucinate a bit more and loop a little; but still actually pretty good for something so small.
by ab5tract | 2025-06-11 01:40:27+00:00
That hardly entails that self-driving cars have "arrived". Am I mistaken or is it true that you can't even own and operate one yourself?

In my opinion, it's as similarly off-base as to making claims that 'mach speed consumer air travel' "arrived" just because for a few decades you could catch a Concorde flight between NYC and London.
by tonyarkles | 2025-06-11 01:40:30+00:00
As someone who works with ArduPilot professionally, I have very mixed feelings about it. It’s mature, definitely. It supports all kinds of vehicles, like you say. It’s beautifully modular and supports a crapload of flight control and sensor hardware. And there are definitely pieces of it that are aggravating and exceptionally janky.

The HUD overlay you’re referring to is technically Mission Planner (GCS software), not ArduPilot (flight control software). Mission Planner and ArduPilot both talk Mavlink, and they’re both developed by the same community. MP is flexible. You can set it up to do almost anything you’d ever want. It’s also terrible and exceptionally janky… but extremely powerful. And they’re both free.

I think the problem with both of them is that they’re good enough that there isn’t likely to be a huge critical mass developing a better alternative. On the GCS side there is also QGroundControl and APM Planner 2 (which was a fork or reimplementation of Mission Planner). Both of them have their own upsides and downsides, but neither one of them is as mature or as powerful/flexible as Mission Planner. PX4 on the flight controller side is popular commercially because it’s BSD-licensed instead of GPL, but the net result is that it has nowhere near as many features as ArduPilot because companies build proprietary features and don’t push them back upstream.

This stuff is definitely in the worse-is-better domain. ArduPilot is free, ArduPilot is amazing and ArduPilot sucks. :)

Anyway, off to bed. I’m in a long test campaign right now and we’ve got to be up at 0430 to fly the ArduPilot-based aircraft again before the weather goes sideways.
by zer00eyz | 2025-06-11 01:41:17+00:00
Also we need to talk about what should be logged and where.

There seem to be two schools of thought, just enough to tell something is wrong but not what it is - OR - you get to drink from the firehose. And most orgs go from the first to the second.

As to where, well thats at the hardware/vm/container level, and mirror and extend what it does. Nothing worse than 20 different ideas of how to log and rotate and trying to figure out who did what, when where and why. If you can't match a log entry to a running environment... well.

I weep quietly inside when some or all of this goes through one, or several S3 buckets for no good reason.
by spondylosaurus | 2025-06-11 01:43:42+00:00
I am curious... what's up with your "What race is Hal?" questions throughout this thread? Unless I'm super unobservant I legitimately don't remember it being made explicit in the novel. Avril is obviously French-Canadian[1], so she's presumably white, which would also make Hal at least half white, but I don't remember any description of JOI's appearance (when he was alive lol) or ethnicity beyond him being very tall.

I feel like a more definitive question could be "Which ETA student is missing several fingers?" or "How did Bruce Green's mom die?" or "What's the call sign for Joelle's radio station?" or "What roams the Great Concavity?"[2]

[1] I can't remember if CT is a true Quebecker or not, but if he is, I could at least say that Mario is 100% French-Canadian, lol.

[2] Or I just thought of another... "Which ETA student has an ironically apt disease?"
by CapricornNoble | 2025-06-11 01:44:01+00:00
> And idk, but I'm just saying what I feel.

You are saying what you feel, but what do you think?

> The ideologies behind it are based on hate and fear and greed.

Organizations across the political spectrum manipulating the emotions of the populace is exactly how we got to this massively fragmented culture where people feel it's appropriate to hate their fellow citizens.
by Shinobuu | 2025-06-11 01:44:08+00:00
There’s a hardware problem affecting Intel 13th/14th gen CPUs, mostly desktop ones. This made the rounds through the press last year and has been on forums etc. for much longer than that. For months, we thought this was a rare bug in the decoder, but from stats in Epic’s crash reports for Fortnite (as well as stats for other Unreal Engine and Oodle licensees) it was fairly striking that this issue really seemed to affect only some CPUs.
by danpalmer | 2025-06-11 01:44:39+00:00
I think the implication is that if you have that graph you’re already half way towards a solution because you know there’s a problem.

In terms of _identifying the problems_, shoving all your data into an LLM to spot irregularities would be exceptionally expensive vs traditional alerting, even though it may be much more capable at spotting potential issues without explicit alerting thresholds being set up.
by myself248 | 2025-06-11 01:45:51+00:00
I miss Altavista every day. Case-sensitive search is how you tell DOS from DoS. Putting "exact phrases" in quotes no longer seems to work. Then they added insult to injury by forcing you to +mandate a term otherwise they might just ignore it. Now that no longer works either.

I've entirely given up on Google.

I've made extensive shortcuts so I can directly search various sites straight from my location bar: wikipedia, wiktionary, urbandictionary, genius, imdb, onelook, knowyourmeme, and about two dozen suppliers/distributors/retailers where I regularly shop.

If I need something that's not on that list, I'll try some search engines but I start with the assumption that I'm not going to find it, because the battle for search is lost.
by tonyarkles | 2025-06-11 01:46:14+00:00
Yeah I printed one of the Titan Dynamics airframes (before they closed up at access for the hobby market) on a Prusa MK3S using foaming PLA and CF spars. The fuselage came out in three prints, the wings as one print each, and then the two wing tip extensions got combined into one print.

It would definitely have been tight on an A1 mini but the full size A1 would work great for sure.
by swyx | 2025-06-11 01:46:32+00:00
acked. in my defense i didnt write the article + ben already had a good track record from the o1 article. while our relationship with oai is v v v impt to us, we've also covered negative openai stories: https://www.latent.space/p/clippy-v-anton and will continue to give balanced coverage with the other labs when they do well.

we are definitely not seeking to be openai sycophants, nor would they want us to be.
by jay_kyburz | 2025-06-11 01:46:46+00:00
The web is in such a bad state, I think there is probably an opportunity for traditional publishers (or somebody else, like a university) to start a walled garden web. A vast trove of interesting, and valuable information on every topic. No shopping, no ads. Just the content you would find in the library.

People used to spend money on books and magazines, I'm sure some of them could be convinced to sign up for a Netflix of books and magazines.
by deepsun | 2025-06-11 01:47:03+00:00
Why would I fine honest law-abiding willing to work people, who only want to raise our GDP and pay taxes?

I saw them, worked with them, so don't tell me they all criminals or lazy. "Legal" or "illegal" is just a label we put on the same person, but person doesn't change.

It's non-working lazy criminals we want to push against. Oftentimes those who could get their *ss off the couch and emigrate are the most active.
by godelski | 2025-06-11 01:47:03+00:00
I work in ML and honestly I agree. We live in a fairly post scarce world. We could already live in a much less post scarce world.

AI, as most technology, make these things easier, but they are power. It's all about what you do with power. You can build power plants or bombs. AI could (let's be hypothetical) free humans from all necessary labor. Robots making all the food, mining all the materials, and do the whole pipeline. But that requires a fundamental rethinking of how we operate now. That world isn't socialism nor capitalism. That's a world where ownership becomes ill defined in many settings but still strict in others. It's easy to income Star Trek but hard to imagine how we get there from here. Do we trust a few people to make all the robots to do all those things and then just abdicate all that power? Do we trust governments to do it? There's reason to trust no one. Because a deep dystopian can be created from any such scenarios. Going towards that hypothetical future is dangerous. Not because super intelligences, but because of us. Those with power tend to not just freely abdicate it... that's not a problem we're discussing enough and our more frequent conversations of ASI and the like just distracts from this one.
Ask HN: Which tools, skills, and knowledge are your alternative to LLMs?
by christofosho | 2025-06-11 01:48:00+00:00
A lot of folks are upskilling themselves on how to effectively use LLMs for tasks such as software development, planning, writing, and more. Along with doing this, I think it's important to contrast the output of LLMs to what we can accomplish without them. What surprises you that people use LLMs to do instead of doing it by other means?

An example I've seen is find and replace in a file, instead of using the built-in editor tool, or a tool such as sed, possibly combined with regular expressions.

What are your thoughts?
by natrys | 2025-06-11 01:48:15+00:00
Interesting presumption about R1 25-01 being what's talked about, you knowledge cut-off does appear to know R1 update two weeks back was a thing, and that it even improved on function calling.

Of course you have to pretend I meant the former, otherwise "they all have" doesn't entirely make sense. Not that it made total sense before either, but if I say your definition of "they" is laughably narrow, I suspect you will go back to your google contact and confirm that nothing else really exists outside it.

Oh and do a ctrl-f on "irrelevant" please, perhaps some fact grounding is in order. There was an interesting conversation to be had about underpinning of automation somehow without intelligence (Llama 4) but who has time for that if we can have hallucination go hand in hand with forced agendas (free disclaimer to boot) and projection ("doth protest too much")? Truly unforeseeable.
by cbsmith | 2025-06-11 01:48:39+00:00
Some curious misconceptions here about how the search industry works.

There's a very strong financial incentive for ad-powered search engines to keep SEO spam out of search results, because that makes advertisers more willing to pay for search placement. A publicly run search engine would not have those incentives and would be at if anything graver risk of a "tragedy of the commons" type scenario where the engine is overtaken with spam.

Yes, there are perverse incentives to populate search engine results with paid placements, but the best corrective force I can think of is having more competition in the search space. As long as people are willing to try other search engines (spoiler: for the most part, they are currently not), this creates a strong incentive to ensure that paid placements that harm the search experience are kept to a minimum.

...and I think the concerns about profitability of the LLM space is completely missing the larger agenda. Even if public use of OpenAI and its competitors NEVER TURNS A PROFIT, there is tremendous economic opportunity that investors expect to realize from a company with intelligent/powerful LLMs. That is why they are pumping so much money into these companies.
by zer00eyz | 2025-06-11 01:49:03+00:00
> because anomalies are often the norm

You fix these issues or you tune your alert system to make it clear that they aren't actionable. Otherwise you end up turning them off so your system doesn't turn into the boy who cried wolf (or worse teams learn to ignore it and it becomes useless)

Bayesian filters, and basic dirivative functions (think math) can do a lot to tame output from these systems. These arent "product features" so in most orgs they dont get the attention they need or deserve.
by danhite | 2025-06-11 01:49:07+00:00
> Coauthor here.

> That’s how software feels today—-the “kitchen” is missing.

I believe you'll want to read this essay which appeared in the Spring 1990 issue of Market Process, a publication of the Center for the Study of Market Processes at George Mason University ...

"An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Kitchens" by Phil Salin

Having worked for him, I'd say his wikipedia entry doesn't do him justice, but is a good start if you're curious--like your Ink & Switch group he spent many years trying to create a world changing software/platform [AMIX , sister co. to Xanadu, both funded in the 1990s by Autodesk].

http://www.philsalin.com/kitchens/index.html#:~:text=An%20In...
by __MatrixMan__ | 2025-06-11 01:50:49+00:00
Those incentives are themselves the output of a variety of heuristics that we rely on only due to a lack of viable alternatives. I expect that eventually AI will make some alternatives viable because the bottleneck is so often an information processing one. Three examples:

- Loans get issued when they're likely to make a banker rich. We know that's a lousy proxy for assurances that their associated ventures will be beneficial to the public, but it kinda sorta works enough.

- Those loans cause money to enter the system and then we all chase it around and we cooperate with people who give us some of it even though we know that having money is a lousy proxy for competence or vision or integrity or any other virtue that might actually warrant such deference, but it kinda sorta works enough.

- Research gets done in support of publications, the count of which is used to assess the capability of the researcher, even though we know that having many publications is a lousy proxy for having a made a positive impact, but it kinda sorta works enough.

If we can fix these systems that are just limping along... If money can enter the system in support of ventures which are widely helpful, not just profitable... If we can support each other due to traits we find valuable in each other, not just because of some happenstance regarding scarcity. If we can encourage effective research in pursuit of widely sought after goals, rather than just counting publications... well that will be a whole new world with a new incentive structure. AI could make it happen if it manages to dispense with all these lousy proxies.
by csnizik | 2025-06-11 01:51:14+00:00
Very clever idea! It's difficult to come up with an original idea for a word game, but you seem to have done it. If there's one like this, I haven't seen it.

The only issue I noticed was there seems to be some lag on printing some of the results. Maybe memoizing some repetitive functions might help, if you're not already.

Nice work!
by protocolture | 2025-06-11 01:52:21+00:00
>protesting is not illegal.

Everyone says this but no one means it. Governments just declare an area offlimits, or they declare a curfew or one of hundreds of ways they use to make protesters illegal. Ultimately, protests are only legal inside a small cube where no one can see, and thus the protesters have no effect.

Protesting is illegal. People should protest anyway because it is stupid that protesting is illegal.
by ndiddy | 2025-06-11 01:53:20+00:00
I think this is because Apple doesn't sell cheap laptops, the cheapest you can buy is the $1000 Macbook Air. If you spend your $1000 on something like a Lenovo Thinkpad or Dell Latitude, it'll also last for over 10 years of active usage. I have a 15 year old Thinkpad X201 that still works fine.
by reissbaker | 2025-06-11 01:53:23+00:00
It's not better than full R1; Mistral is using misleading benchmarks. The latest version of R1, R1-0528, is much better: 91.4% on AIME2024 pass@1. Mistral uses the original R1 release from January in their comparisons, presumably because it makes their numbers look more competitive.

That being said, it's still very impressive for a 24B.

I'm really wondering how the new R1 model isn't beating o3 and 2.5 Pro on every single benchmark.

Sidenote, but I'm pretty sure DeepSeek is focused on V4, and after that will train an R2 on top. The V3-0324 and R1-0528 releases weren't retrained from scratch, they just continued training from the previous V3/R1 checkpoints. They're nice bumps, but V4/R2 will be more significant.

Of course, OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic will have released new models by then too...
by CapricornNoble | 2025-06-11 01:53:39+00:00
Marine officer here (Reservist). The officer corps has a LOT of careerist yes-men, if the enforcement of COVID vaccinations is anything to go by. I know a surprising number of Catholic Marines who refused to get COVID vaccinations and had to deal with significant pressures from senior officers over it. I'm not confident that commanders will refuse orders on the basis that they consider them illegal.

EDIT: That said, I concur with my sibling comment that decisions are very much pushed down to the NCO/SNCO on the ground, and I expect that those young Sergeants might actually have more sense and restraint than the O-5s and O-6s (battalion and regiment commanders). Also, military demographics are changing....I bet (but can't confirm with hard data right now) that there is a substantial growth in Hispanics in the combat arms compared to ~30 years ago. I had a female Corporal working for me once who's hometown was Sinaloa (yes, cartel Sinaloa). I think even normally "eager to engage the enemy" Marines will be more restrained about escalating to violence against their own demographics.
by SchemaLoad | 2025-06-11 01:53:48+00:00
The old mobile OSs used to be hilariously lacking so every update was genuinely game changing. I remember getting really excited when Android Ice Cream Sandwich was adding screenshot functionality to tablets. And hearing people talk about folders getting added to iOS.

Now all the low hanging fruit is gone they are less exciting. The photogrammetry api stuff added to iOS probably took 100x the dev effort of adding folders and copy/paste, but gets far less excitement.
by thegeomaster | 2025-06-11 01:54:14+00:00
Hard disagree. Of course technically they didn't do anything explicitly against the public guidance (the checks and balances would never let them), but naming a model with a date very strongly implies immutability.

It's the same logic of why UB in C/C++ isn't a license to do whatever the compiler wants. We're humans and we operate on implications, common-sense assumptions and trust.
by codethief | 2025-06-11 01:54:22+00:00
Why the need to fork git? It works just fine for a middle-sized company with a couple hundred devs. Let's not pretend every company is Google- or Meta-sized. Personally, I think the sweet spot for a monorepo is not a conglomerate-wide monorepo, anyway, but one at a much smaller scale where you bundle all those projects together that depend on each other but not more. There is little harm in keeping things in separate repos when they have nothing to do with each other. Yes, you might have to copy the tooling but 1) the tooling is not going to be special, 2) if you have to do the copying once or twice, that's not a big deal.