MurphyA/hacker-news huggingface dataset:
by xbmcuser | 2025-04-17 19:55:06+00:00
For a non programmer like me google is becoming shockingly good. It is giving working code the first time. I was playing around with it asked it to write code to scrape some data of a website to analyse. I was expecting it to write something that would scrape the data and later I would upload the data to it to analyse. But it actually wrote code that scraped and analysed the data. It was basic categorizing and counting of the data but I was not expecting it to do that.
by runako | 2025-04-17 19:55:24+00:00
It died when ICE started snatching people and deporting them without trial. (The government has the obligation to put each person before a court to at minimum prove they are not about to deport a US citizen.)

Incidentally, the position of the current administration is that they should have been able to, last night, send him to serve an indefinite sentence in an El Salvadoran torture prison without ever seeing a judge.
by legitster | 2025-04-17 19:55:26+00:00
> The law makes it a misdemeanor for undocumented immigrants over age 18 to “knowingly” enter Florida “after entering the United States by eluding or avoiding examination or inspection by immigration officers.”

A good reminder that over 60% of "undocumented immigrants" in the US are here because they overstayed Visas (more likely their Visa extensions were denied). NOT because they entered the country illegally.

However, the enforcement of these laws is following the "guilty until proven innocent" logic. Arrest people who look hispanic and deny them basic legal rights until they prove their citizenship. The fact that citizens are caught up in this should not be a surprise since we are witnessing the fall of due process.
by jsnell | 2025-04-17 19:55:48+00:00
> This implies it's not a hybrid model that can just skip reasoning steps if requested.

It clearly is, since most of the post is dedicated to the tunability (both manual and automatic) of the reasoning budget.

I don't know what they're doing with this pricing, and the blog post does not do a good job explaining.

Could it be that they're not counting thinking tokens as output tokens (since you don't get access to the full thinking trace anyway), and this is the basically amortizing the thinking tokens spend over the actual output tokens? Doesn't make sense either, because then the user has no incentive to use anything except 0/max thinking budgets.
Tell HN: /active and showdead might lead to a more informative HN experience
by hahaxdxd123 | 2025-04-17 19:55:54+00:00
If you go on https://news.ycombinator.com/active instead of the default https://news.ycombinator.com page, the results are very different. In my experience, much more interesting content.

Here is a quick list of submissions that are currently on the top 10 of /active that are not on the default front page at all.

“Most promising signs yet” of alien life on a planet beyond our Solar System - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43714203

-flagged- US Government threatens Harvard with foreign student ban - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43715022

Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43711706

This 'College Protester' Isn't Real. It's an AI-Powered Undercover Bot for Cops - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43716939

Encryption Is Not a Crime - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43716138

These submissions are interesting to me and IMO are all related to tech/science (yes, even the Harvard one - fewer talented foreign students leads to less innovation). I understand the reasoning for hiding these - most are political or opinionated and lead to possibly inflammatory debate. But I trust my own best judgement for what is worth consuming and personally don't want any algorithm deciding for me (other than a simple function of f(upvotes, time_elapsed)).
by kccqzy | 2025-04-17 19:56:21+00:00
The same reason why people enjoy BigQuery enough that their only use of GCP is BigQuery while they put their general compute spend on AWS.

In other words, I believe talking about cloud market share as a whole is misleading. One cloud could have one product that's so compelling that people use that one product even when they use other clouds for more commoditized products.
by pclmulqdq | 2025-04-17 19:56:21+00:00
No, I personally want to see ads that are as irrelevant as possible. I hate getting a sales pitch forced on me, and would rather see something funny or entertaining showing off an irrelevant product in a clever way than whatever your customers want to shove in front of my eyes.

This is why I block all ads, but still appreciate super bowl commercials.

And I have discovered that this actually works on me. I like the Nike ads, so on the occasions when I buy sportswear, I have positive feelings about Nike stuff. I spend 100-10000x more on stuff that isn't sportswear, but I think Nike gets more value from me watching that ad than anyone who advertises some "relevant" SaaS product or whatnot.
by HenryBemis | 2025-04-17 19:56:39+00:00
Don't throw away the baby with the bathwater (I live in the EU but hold on a minute...)

_this_ part doesn't work. Not "nothing works anymore". Perhaps there is a special court/system/subsystem that has authority for these cases. Just like Military has its own courts, and they don't try civilians, perhaps for such cases there is a "migration court" (or something-something...)

Unless there isn't in which case, damn those ICE folks are cold!!
by andrewla | 2025-04-17 19:56:41+00:00
I disagree with the formulation of "decision problem" here. The problem, properly phrased as a decision problem, is "For a given K, does there exist a string with K 1s".

While it is straightforward to answer in the affirmative, and to produce an algorithm that produces that output (though it takes exponential time). To validate that a solution is in fact a valid solution also takes exponential time, if we are treating the size of the input as the base for the validation of the witness.
by LegionMammal978 | 2025-04-17 19:56:44+00:00
How my high-school calculus textbook did it was to first define ln(x) so that ln(1) = 0 and d/dx ln(x) = 1/x, then take exp(x) as the inverse function of ln(x), and finally set e = exp(1). It's definitely a bit different from the exp-first formulation, but it does do a good job connecting the natural logarithm to a natural definition. (It's an interesting exercise to show, using only limit identities and algebraic manipulation, that this is equivalent to the usual compound-interest version of e.)
by kemayo | 2025-04-17 19:56:50+00:00
ICE is known for being fuzzy with its holds. They issue them over sketchy name collisions and inaccurate or outdated charges in their databases. It's one of the factors in why a bunch of cities don't cooperate with ICE -- they hate getting sued over it when it happens.

E.g. https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-ice-detain... from back in 2017.

That is to say, this is mostly a story about ICE doing what ICE has always done, getting attention because of other prominent cases. Deservedly! Because ICE is a pretty awful institution in practice.
by atoav | 2025-04-17 19:57:07+00:00
If things like these happen, staying silent is — guess what — political.

If your neighbours are being taken away by state police there is no non-political move you can make. Helping the police is political, ducking away and pretending it is not helping is political and hiding them is political as well.

While I understand that this site tries to not drown in the flaming garbage site that online political discourse can be, if I — the exact demographic who startups would like to have working for them would list precisely this as my main concern stopping me from moving into the US it is a bit odd that it is verboten to discuss it.

Hackers historically were (and are) extremely critical of authority and for the freedom of knowledge, and now we can't discuss an direct attack at those very values on a site that calls itself Hackernews? Come on.
by sebastiennight | 2025-04-17 19:57:52+00:00
I'm sorry, please allow me clear any misunderstanding.

I am not producing any derivative work of your comments, and this is not commercial use. Here is why:

a - this is a static HTML page so the only way to generate audio from it is for YOU to provide YOUR 11Labs key to get an audio on YOUR 11Labs account that YOU can then download to YOUR computer, so technically YOU would be creating the derivative work, not me

b - how is this promoting my business?? There is no link to it anywhere here

c - did you follow me from the TikTok thread to here? what's going on?

Also, are you also issuing cease and desist letters to every web app that is using the HN api? Because there's really nothing happening here warranting such a response.
by CurtHagenlocher | 2025-04-17 19:58:08+00:00
I predict they'll argue that because he lived in Mexico from ages 1 to 16 that he effectively relinquished citizenship. Which is BS, of course, but I'm reminded of the Sartre quote "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert."
by mjb | 2025-04-17 19:58:13+00:00
That's just not true, though. Stainless (e.g. AEB-L) is up to four times tougher than simple low-alloy carbon steel (e.g. 1095). See https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/10/19/knife-steels-rated-by... for example.

High hardness simple carbon steels do have their place in knives, but what you're saying is factually incorrect.
by azemetre | 2025-04-17 19:58:46+00:00
lol in what world is breaking paid user contracts and flagrantly getting away with it democratic? What does free market even mean in this context? That the big trillion dollar corporation can bury you in legal fees or remove your means of making money with no way to question the decision to prove it was done in error?

This is insane. In no free society would this be just.

They need to rightfully be broken up to ensure a free society for everyone, not just the cohort of people that own alphabet stocks.
by Tuna-Fish | 2025-04-17 19:58:57+00:00
It's ten times the time to work on a problem. Taking a bunch of speed does not make your brain work faster, it just messes with your attention system.

> Though I don't know what you mean by "width of a human brain".

A human brain contains ~86 billion neurons connected to each other through ~100 trillion synapses. All of these parts work genuinely in parallel, all working together at the same time to produce results.

When an AI model is being ran on a GPU, a single ALU can do the work analogous of a neuron activation much faster than a real neuron. But a GPU does not have 86 billion ALUs, it only has ~<20k. It "simulates" a much wider, parallel processing system by streaming in weights and activations and doing them 20k at a time. Large AI datacenters have built systems with many GPUs working in parallel on a single model, but they are still a tiny fraction of the true width of the brain, and can not reach anywhere near the same amount of neuron activations/second that a brain can.

If/when we have a model that can actually do complex reasoning tasks such as programming and designing new computers as well as a human can, with no human helping to prompt it, we can just scale it out to give it more hours per day to work, all the way until every neuron has a real computing element to run it. The difference in experience for such a system for running "narrow" vs running "wide" is just that the wall clock runs slower when you are running wide. That is, you have more hours per day to work on things.
by fullstackchris | 2025-04-17 19:59:33+00:00
This is super insightful, and I think there is at least part of what you are thinking of: an abstract syntax tree! Or at the very least one could include metadata about the token under scrutiny (similar to how most editors can show you git blame / number of references / number of tests passing in the current code you are looking at...)

It makes me think about things like... "what if we also provided not just the source code, but the abstract syntax tree or dependency graph", or at least the related nodes relevant to what code the LLM wants to change. In this way, you potentially have the true "full" context of the code, across all files / packages / whatever.
by kmeisthax | 2025-04-17 19:59:35+00:00
Because that path lies skill atrophy.

AI research has a thing called "the bitter lesson" - which is that the only thing that works is search and learning. Domain-specific knowledge inserted by the researcher tends to look good in benchmarks but compromise the performance of the system[0].

The bitter-er lesson is that this also applies to humans. The reason why humans still outperform AI on lots of intelligence tasks is because humans are doing lots and lots of search and learning, repeatedly, across billions of people. And have been doing so for thousands of years. The only uses of AI that benefit humans are ones that allow you to do more search or more learning.

The human equivalent of "inserting domain-specific knowledge into an AI system" is cultural knowledge, cliches, cargo-cult science, and cheating. Copying other people's work only helps you, long-term, if you're able to build off of that into something new; and lots of discoveries have come about from someone just taking a second look at what had been considered to be generally "known". If you are just "taking shortcuts", then you learn nothing.

[0] I would also argue that the current LLM training regime is still domain-specific knowledge, we've just widened the domain to "the entire Internet".
by Ray20 | 2025-04-17 19:59:45+00:00
>Here in the US we seem to be on some kind of precipice.

Aren't working class people in the US just recently choose the most anti-elite candidate possible just because (and fuck the consequences, let it all burn in hell)?

Working class people are understanding that the elite are just a few bad decisions away from their total destruction. And now they WILL make THE OTHERS to understand this.
by adrr | 2025-04-17 19:59:58+00:00
There are three parties. Media Buyers, publishers and users. As a publisher, you can go with “dumb” platforms that don’t deliver quality users to media buyers because of relevancy, you’ll make less money m. Apple ad platform is 40/60 split but for media buyers, it’s not efficient so we spend less money on it. Assume publishers make less money with it as well.

We seen dumb platforms with linear tv. Go watch any TV with an antenna.
by DarkmSparks | 2025-04-17 20:00:05+00:00
Our lawyer attended Harvard as a postgrad and this idiocy makes him ashamed he did so, so much he took it off his linkedin profile so as not to be associated with them. Don't know how much he paid for it, but cant imagine it was cheap.

About as close to personal as it gets, other than having zero respect for racist crayon munching idiots.
by _mlbt | 2025-04-17 20:00:31+00:00
I think it's also absurd that the media is painting this guy as some innocent victim. He is an MS-13 gang member. He beat his wife, to the point that she filed a restraining order against him. There is evidence that he was engaging in human trafficking. Citizens have rights to trial. Those who have entered the country illegally do not have the same legal rights that citizens do.
by hnfong | 2025-04-17 20:00:34+00:00
> You can read decision here. No mention of search. I count 13 mentions of "Google Search" and 44 mentions of "search" in the linked document.

Of course this doesn't mean the monopoly is in "search", but before you complain that I just grepped the document for the keywords without reading it, here's the actual relevant text:

Plaintiffs have proven that Google has willfully engaged in a series of anticompetitive acts to acquire and maintain monopoly power in the publisher ad server and ad exchange markets for open-web display advertising. For over a decade, Google has tied its publisher ad server and ad exchange together through contractual policies and technological integration, which enabled the company to establish and protect its monopoly power in these two markets. Google further entrenched its monopoly power by imposing anticompetitive policies on its customers and eliminating desirable product features. In addition to depriving rivals of the ability to compete, this exclusionary conduct substantially harmed Google’s publisher customers, the competitive process, and, ultimately, consumers of information on the open web. Accordingly, Google is liable under Sections 1 and 2 of the Sherman Act.

So it's quite clear the court thought Google was a monopoly in "publisher ad server and ad exchange markets for open-web display advertising". Not "market for digital marketing" as you alluded to.

I really don't know what to make of your comments here -- either you read the document and decided to just spin it as some braindead decision, or you didn't read the document and just wantonly claimed it didn't mention "search".
by _DeadFred_ | 2025-04-17 20:00:48+00:00
No, I said that blanket judgements like you are making are what led to the US to write ahorant legislation against the Chinese, the closest parallel in our nation's history where language like yours have been used to talk about immigrants to reform the system, not some random strawman example. I'm have not said you support that. I said 'here is a very related example language similar to yours went down the slippery path I see your language could'. It's been nothing about you. Your pseudo-statistics are BS. We have immigrant courts/judges we don't use personal rough pseudo statistics to judge people as criminals (in this case criminal perjurer). Down your pseudo statistics path lies not only racism but vigilantism (citizens proving someone a criminal based on very weak premises) where the majority number of your 'statistics' zero actual finding is made only assumptions of guilt. I agree it's plausible that large numbers of asylum seekers are gaming the system. I agree the the Democrats probably facilitated abuse of the system because they can't get the immigration policies they want. I think it's bullshit and un-American to extend that to 'This random dude is a criminal perjeror' based on only that.

You don't seem to be able to comprehend my basic argument. I concede that there are incentives to lie and the system should account for that, but that we shouldn't label a class criminal perjurers because down that path lies nothing good. I've given you more response/good faith than you have me. You keep saying you haven't labeled this man anything but then call him a criminal perjurer and imply his grounds for being in the country are bullshit. But other than that, yeah, you haven't called him anything. All based on 'he sought asylum'.

You say 10% are approved, which matches Americas past 'We would rather 10 criminals go free than 1 innocent person imprisoned'. By your words it sounds like this is a part of America's thought about itself/it's character that you don't agree with. (Now talking about your personal judgement).
by zoogeny | 2025-04-17 20:01:05+00:00
He states that he won't accept it as part of his argumentation (See passages 37c, 37d):

> And if I say exile (and this may possibly be the penalty which you will affix)

One commentary I read suggested that it wasn't uncommon for political opponents to bring these kinds of charges against people in order to silence them. The idea being the accused would end up groveling and begging for their lives, promising to hold their tongues. It is assumed by the reader that Socrates could have done this and used his military service as a form of pathos. This passage implies that he will do neither, beg for clemency nor accept exile.

One could read the passage as Socrates giving up hope in humanity, for he goes on:

> I must indeed be blinded by the love of life if I were to consider that when you, who are my own citizens, [37d] cannot endure my discourses and words, and have found them so grievous and odious that you would want to have done with them, others are likely to endure me. No, indeed, men of Athens, that is not very likely.

But, as I have implied, seeking simple answers in Plato is literally going against the point.

edit, also 38e:

> But I thought that I ought not to do anything common or mean in the hour of danger: nor do I now repent of the manner of my defense, and I would rather die having spoken after my manner, than speak in your manner and live. For neither in war nor yet at law ought any man to use every way of escaping death.
by adriand | 2025-04-17 20:01:43+00:00
It’s absolutely terrifying. What they did to Kilmar Abrego Garcia could happen to anyone, US citizen or not. They have admitted be was rendered to a gulag accidentally but are also saying that now that he’s there, there’s nothing they can do to bring him back, and that no US court has jurisdiction. They just vanished him into a legal black hole and he has very likely been tortured and abused. That legal black hole would work whether you’re a citizen or not. If they have the power to do it to him, they have the power to do it to anyone.

According to the “justice” minister of El Salvador, the only way out of that prison is in a coffin. What has happened here should be a five alarm emergency for every person in America. When the president can make you disappear, you are now living in Chile in 1973.
by daveguy | 2025-04-17 20:02:25+00:00
That doesn't mean the one what manages to spit it out of its latent space is close to AGI. I wonder how consistently that specific model could. If you tried 10 LLMs maybe all 10 of them could have spit out the answer 1 out of 10 times. Correct problem retrieval by one LLM and failure by the others isn't a great argument for near-AGI. But LLMs will be useful in limited domains for a long time.
by throwanem | 2025-04-17 20:04:03+00:00
To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account edit: or a Github Pages account sharing a name with your corporate entity. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. edit: No longer necessary in my view, though I still would recommend it; not everyone is as nice as me.

To your second, see my first, above. Also, you opened your Show HN as:

> Hi HN, here's something fun to play with.

> It takes any HN thread and turns it into an audio conversation so you can listen to the thread while doing other things.

> I've seen many previous attempts to turn HN threads into podcasts, but they all shared a common issue IMO: trying to reduce the very rich back-and-forth into a single-thread single-reader boring podcast. Instead, I wanted to hear the actual debate from the actual thread!

I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact.

I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. Please consider the possibility that this is what a launch looks like in the moment when it is only going sideways, after the rocket has ceased going up but before it begins to succumb again to gravity's inexorable pull.