by YZF | 2025-04-15 06:02:44+00:00
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-premiers-cabinet-1....

"Once cabinet declares an emergency, it takes effect right away — but the government still needs to go to Parliament within seven days to get approval. If either the Commons or the Senate votes against the motion, the emergency declaration is revoked."

Seems like this was later approved by parliament... Do you have a link showing it was approved by senate?

Right now we have an unelected PM. Not sure how the re-election after 4 years is relevant. A US president also has to be re-elected.

I said I might be wrong on the emergency act. and indeed I was wrong (-ish). But you're correct that I need to do better research. I was going from memory and indeed the initial application was before the approval but you are still technically correct.

Were the reciprocal tariffs on the US also approved by parliament?

I think you mean no confidence? Yes. This is generally something that happens in a minority government.

Anyways, I still think PMs in Canada effectively have a lot of power. But I stand corrected on the extent of their power. It is pretty rare they are removed by their party/coalition but the government has occasionally fallen due to votes of no confidence - yes. There is a complete list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_defeat...

EDIT: Also I think you're being a little bit extreme in your "spreading misinformation" comment.

> The PM has slight larger responsibility the a regular MP.

Is clearly not accurate either.

> You still often have one man with all the power in a parliamentary system. The Prime Minister. Take Canada as an example. JT had basically complete power over government. It's as rate for the prime minister party or coalition to go against him as it is for a president in the US to be impeached.

It's true that the mechanism of power in Canada and Israel (the two parliamentary systems I'm familiar with) are different but the PMs do have a lot of power. Canada being a federation maybe a bit less (but the US is also a federation).

The PMs party rarely goes against him (and maybe the vote above is an example for that). But yes, as I said above no confidence votes do (rarely) happen in Canada. The US president's powers are also limited, they rarely seem to get anything real done. I don't know of an objective measure there to compare the "power" of a PM vs. a President. PMs can be removed by parliament (or rather the government forced to go to elections). US presidents can also be removed (in theory).

This was more of my opinion/countering the idea that parliamentary systems just magically fix everything. I don't think they do. But I'll try and improve my accuracy when making random comments.

EDIT2: https://sencanada.ca/en/content/sen/chamber/441/debates/020d...

https://sencanada.ca/en/content/sen/chamber/441/debates/020d...

"Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in the Senate): Therefore, honourable senators, I ask for leave of the Senate to end the debate on the motion to confirm the public order emergency proclaimed on February 14, 2022, and revoked earlier today, and to withdraw the order for the consideration of the motion, with the Senate resuming sittings following the rules, orders and practices that would otherwise be in effect."