by spwa4 | 2025-04-06 11:38:07+00:00
> It's akin to saying "If Trump can improve the country at the cost of some disagreement, then maybe it's worth it, so I voted Trump"

Frankly in my opinion Trump got elected due to this attitude. Obviously, Trump or no Trump (and when he gets out of office, even if that's only when he dies) we will still have to live with MAGA people, right? They're not going to disappear. And, frankly, the ONLY break on republican power at the moment is that while they have power, they have to live with democrats. No choice. (yes, there's state and judicial power, but at this point there at best reminding Trump he has to live with at least some democrat viewpoints and laws. Not zero, but not much)

Imho Trump, and definitely Trump's actions, are the result of MAGA people shouting very, very loudly "NO COMPROMISE". And, why? Well, the democrat-supported demonstrations (Gaza, BLM, climate, and ...) were to some extent shouting the same. "NO COMPROMISE". No talking. The Gaza demonstrations were totally unwilling to discuss what conditions to force on Hamas, any at all, just as BLM demonstrations were totally unwilling to discuss solutions, just as ... The Gaza demonstrations were about winning, not about Israeli-Palestinian peace. The BLM demonstrations were about winning, not about compromise. And so on. They were just accusing everyone else of being horrible, depraved human beings that should essentially be murdered to the last man because of some (admittedly very fucking serious) mistake they made.

Then some evil election planner went to Trump, and pointed out that the 2016-2020 presidency would come with the ability to get the supreme court in the camp of whoever got elected president AND the 2024-2028 election provided 2+ years majorities in congress, in addition to the presidency ... and Trump (+ cronies) jumped on it. Yes, the goal was probably to get Trump in for 3 terms, so thank God for Biden. But there you are.

But then, at the tail end of Biden's presidency ... the economy showed clear signs of going down significantly (Trump is to blame for the MOMENT of the stock market crash, but imho ... at best 50% for it happening at some point), and the incumbent party was voted out, first in congressional elections, then in the presidency. As always happens in those circumstances. I believe over 200 years only twice has it been different (and one of those 2 times was WW2, so presumably it was a time the average house cat would have agreed there were more pressing matters than the economy)

And now we're here, sitting pretty, after years of shouting "NO COMPROMISE! NEVER" ... with the people we were never going to compromise with in power ... in congress ... in the senate ... and the orange tomato president.

Let's face facts here: we will be making a LOT of concessions before the 2026 elections, because why would republicans give us anything at all? (yes, because we still have to live together). After that less, but still making concessions until, hopefully 2028. People actually thinking about pros and cons, even when there's an easy target to blame, I hope THOSE will bring us forward.

Making a coalition of people who realize that for 2 to 4 years, we'll have to live with republicans in power, and then for at least 4 years hopefully they'll have to live with democrats in power again. People who compromise and live together, THAT is the way forward. And frankly, that answers all the republican shouting points too. A large people who compromise ... can take on China, because over there, there is no compromise, and with that complete morons in power, and zero loyalty. They cannot win against an army of soldiers that believe they'll be welcome in the country they fight for.