Question: Who is older, Tilly Lucas-Rodd or Ira Michael Heyman?
Sentence (from "Ira Michael Heyman"): Ira Michael Heyman( May 30, 1930 – November 19, 2011) was a Professor of Law and of City and Regional Planning, and was Chancellor of University of California, Berkeley, and Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution.
Relevant evidence: Yes