Input: [Date] 1 year 36 weeks ago [Body] This is really what I would like to see from the X and O folks (not me). What tyype of plays do you think would work and how can Hoke/Borges keep making progress on the offense they want to run while still winning games. My gut sense is that Brian and Space are both right to some degree. This is an execution and preparation problem but it is also play calling stubborness that is costing Michigan games this year. The eyeball test tells you that these runs have no chance of success. They are just running into bodies behind the line. So with a o-line that can't block and has serious confidence issues, a QB that has been abused for weeks, how can we move the football. Is it West Coast style quick hitting dink and dunk with some constraint plays that offer the opportunity for chunk gains? Is it some spread elements? A hurry up pass heavy style that gets the defense off rythym? If this has been posted elsewhere I would love to see it. [Title]

Output: What can we do in the short term to win games?


Input: [Date] 1 year 36 weeks ago [Body] if incredibly depressing post. It is hard to acknowledge that we are still digging out of a hole. Would love to see an x and O breakdown of the kind of offense we should be running give our current players. [Title]

Output: Very useful


Input: [Date] 1 year 37 weeks ago [Body] I am not sure how you can have confidence in anyone at this point. It is one thing to get beat it is another to look absolutely clueless and lost at home for a critical conference game. I have not been on the fire Borges train but that game was attrocious. Key turnover and two runs for lost yards? That is just like giving up. And they just kept doing it over and over. Madness. Yes, the oline is a dumpster fire but a creative coach has to find a way to use the talent he has effectively. It is not like Nebraska is Alabama. As Ace notes, one drive of creativity and then hang on and hope not to lose? How can you possibly pick this team to win any of the game left? And then what? I am wondering just where the bottoum is at this point. [Title]

Output: losing confidence


Input: [Date] 2 years 15 weeks ago [Body] I am not a big basketball fan. I grew up watch Michigan football and that is the strongest conenctionf for me. I didn't live in AA nor did any of my family go to UM. It was just a cultural aspect I picked up before I even realized it. I watch Michigan football and hated Ohio State. By a weird twist of fate I ended up living and working in Columbus, Ohio. I have now stocked and nursed my hatred of OSU into a fine sharp point. And with all of the ups and downs of football have developed a somewhat tragic sense of life when it comes to sports. And so I was afraid to start carrying about Mcihigan basketball again (I got caught up in the Fab Five frensy while in college and paid the psychic cost when that all unraveled). I followed the teams (mostly through this blog) and the last couple of years slowly began to increase my interest. Last year, I started to actually watch the games. This year I got sucked in. I started watching the games from the start and found myselfing reallying caring about the team again. As I watched heartbreaking losses to Ohio State, Indiana, Wisconsin, etc. I thought "what have I gotten myself into?" It isn't like I need more sports heartbreak, right? But I wasn't going to be one of those fans who abandones the team once they struggle and so I kept watching. And man did the tournament pay off that committment. It felt so good to see everything come together and see the players not only make big plays but seem to really have fun and play as a team. It felt like they were able to shake off the demons and bad bounces of earlier in the year and just play at a higher level. The first half last night felt like that trajectory would continue. But then Hancock began to rain down threes and my gut began to clench and suddenly it was more like a heavyweight fight - less joy, more determination. And in the end Michigan just didn't quite have enough to get past an incredibly determined and focused Louisville team. In the end I felt not anger but frustration a sense that those players were so close to an incredible opportunity only to fall just short. I wished all that joy could have continued in one last improbable victory. As Brian notes, I wished somehow I could reduce the misery they felt. And of course, lving in Columbus I had to deal with the jerks on FB and Twitter and everywhere else savoring the loss and the misery. But as my duaghter (age 8) said to me this morning as we were discussing it in the car, Michigan is clearly a program to be reckoned with again. And I think that takes a little of the sting of the loss away somehow. Michigan feels back somehow. Maybe I am a bandwagon fan compared to all of you longtime fans but it feels good to committ to a team and feel good about where they are and where they are headed. [Title]

Output: Surprisingly less angry about this game


Input: [Date] 2 years 16 weeks ago [Body] Having been involved in blogging, both personally and professionally, I know how hard it can be even when you love your subject. Your unique health situation adds another wrinkle. I appreciate what you do and the passion you bring to it. Thanks for bringing the joys, and disappontments, of this season to me through your writing. Best of luck finding the right balance moving forward. [Title]

Output: Thanks for the insight into your world


Input: [Date] 2 years 17 weeks ago [Body] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE [Title]

Output: This thread reminds me of this


Input: [Date] 2 years 35 weeks ago [Body] Take away the big Roundtree and Robinson plays and Michigan has like 137 yards in first half. I think it is a little over-the-top to just blame Borges for loss because of poor play calling in the second half. Yes, I think running up the middle was foolish and I wish there was more creative use of Denard and Devin. But the difference to me was turnovers and Carlos Hyde. Hyde allowed Ohio State to grind out yards. Michigan had no answer. Michigan had the opportunity to win and didn't make the plays when they needed to. The only difference between this game and Northwestern is a miracle throw. [Title]

Output: Two plays inflated offense in first half


Input: [Date] 3 years 35 weeks ago [Body] Sorry to have missed it. I am not an alum so probably why I didn't hear about it. [Title]

Output: Thanks


Input: [Date] 3 years 35 weeks ago [Body] If so, that sucks that I missed him. Ironically, I talked with Michael Rosenberg when his book came out. [Title]

Output: Was Bacon in Columbus for a book signing?


Input: [Date] 4 years 34 weeks ago [Body] It would be more interesting to see how Michigan compares across a longer period of time. Was there quanatative decline at the end of Carr with 2008 being destruction and now clear rebuilding back to the average UM #s and beyond? Be interesting to see what the typical range for the team has been the last ten years. Easy to request others do more work ... [Title]

Output: Agree about long term trends


Input: [Date] 5 years 35 weeks ago [Body] I live in Columbus and it gets old after a while. Most people are not real jerks about it but the overall assumption is that everyone is a Buckeye fan; plus you get lots of dirty looks when Michigan is doing well and lots of jokes when they are down (I have lived here during both Cooper and Sweater Vest). You really can't get away from it as it is on TV, radio, stores, work, even at church the pastor will mention the game (Chris Spielman and John Copper both attend my church). I will forget I have on my UM hat and when the guy at the drive-thru says he won't serve me with that hat on and starts laughing it often takes me a moment to figure it out. My mom came to visit close to The Game one year, however, and people were giving her crap all over town so she changed. I told her you can't let them win but she didn't think it was worth the hassle. Of course, my wife's family all went to Michigan State so I have to take crap from them now too ... [Title]

Output: Behind Enemy Lines in Columbus


Input: [Date] 5 years 35 weeks ago [Body] What about Cliff Stoudt? [Title]

Output: What about Cliff Stoudt?


Input: [Date] 5 years 35 weeks ago [Body] Having Michigan fans write and debate what happened and what they think it means is too much? If this is to be a true community where fans interact - in addition to reading Brian's unique perspective - then people will have to deal with comments, diaries, and board posts. I don't think it has descended into site destroying chaos and anger today. [Title]

Output: I don't understand the complaint


Input: [Date] 5 years 35 weeks ago [Body] If tl;dr means "too long didn't read" then how exactly do you know it isn't diary worthy? Do you get extra points for using internet slang even if it is nonsensical? Sorry it wasn't up to your obviously high standards ... [Title]

Output: huh?


Input: [Date] 5 years 35 weeks ago [Body] that Ohio State was trying not lose from the start (once we gave them a TD and missed a FG). I am not saying the D didn't play better because they did. But if OSU has to win that game - rather than watching us lose it - I think things would have been different. Maybe we win, maybe we don't, but it wouldn't have been the same game. [Title]

Output: Also keep in mind


Input: [Date] 5 years 35 weeks ago [Body] I am shouting for joy instead of spending the weekend explaining to my kids why it is wrong to say bad words and why they shouldn't be repeating them all day (like happened for Purdue and when the Bengals swept the Steelers last Sunday). A win tomorrow would make my year (yes, it has been one of those years for me). Winning and losing can be a close thing. If everything comes together Saturday who knows what can happen. [Title]

Output: Here is hoping


Input: [Date] 5 years 35 weeks ago [Body] I bear the burden of being a Michigan fan in Columbus. The Spielmans go to my church and I listen to him on the radio frequently so it feels like a death in the family somehow. Chris is a class guy and Stephanie always brightened whatever room she entered. Definitely praying for the family during what must be a very difficult time. [Title]

Output: Tragic indeed


Input: [Date] 5 years 36 weeks ago [Body] Weird how expectations play out. Despite the desperate need to win one more game, I just felt like Wisconsin was the better team today. For, I guess, obvious reasons Illinois and Purdue felt very different. [Title]

Output: I am actually rather calm for once


Input: [Date] 5 years 37 weeks ago [Body] I think a whole lot of people already panicked. Luckily by the time I signed in things began to return to normal. [Title]

Output: A little late


Input: [Date] 5 years 37 weeks ago [Body] Although, I have never wanted RichRod fired or any other major overhaul, I admit I felt some panic. I appreciate Brian laying out nicely in one post why patience is needed and why he thinks next year will see improvement. I would still like to see a spark in the next two games that indicates this team won't always panic or over-react to things. As has been said by practically everyone, beating Ohio State would really make the pain tolerable. [Title]

Output: Obligatory nice post, Brian comment


Input: [Date] 5 years 37 weeks ago [Body] This was my point (probably poorly made). The sense that the team was not improving but still in that find a way to lose mentality was what bothered me. [Title]

Output: Exactly


Input: [Date] 5 years 37 weeks ago [Body] 1) I will cheer for this team and watch every game no matter how ugly it gets. I saw the once dominant Pittsburgh Steelers struggle for years before winning a Super Bowl, I will be a Michigan fan no matter how bad it gets or for how long. 2) I have repeatedly said I don't want the coach fired nor do I think that is the answer. 3) What I wanted to know is whether the folks who continually told us not to panic feel like panicking yet. To me this team feels much closer to last years team in terms of poise and finding ways to lose - despite the better offense - than I would have hoped. And it doesn't seem obvious to me that we will make huge strides next year. [Title]

Output: For the record


Input: [Date] 5 years 37 weeks ago [Body] I would submit that phrasing it as a question is less than a flat out statement that we can't win those games, but that's semantics. So that's my mistake. I didn't mean to say that winning was impossible just that it is hard to look at our play the last five games and see us winning. [Title]

Output: Fair enough


Input: [Date] 5 years 37 weeks ago [Body] I have watched every single game this year. But here is the rub: "things should hopefully be better next year." I hope so too. But hoping is a thin read these days. If I knew, or had solid reasons to be confident, that the defense wasn't going to be the same or worse and that the O-line would improve I would feel better. But I don't have any reason to do so. Yes, I think the skill players on offense will be better after a year of playing but I fear this means we will just lose high scoring games. [Title]

Output: I would like to think I have a tiny shred of patience


Input: [Date] 5 years 37 weeks ago [Body] I never said we have no chance whatsoever against UW or OSU. I asked if anyone felt confident stating that we could beat them. Has there been any indication in the last six weeks that this team has the poise and confidence to do it? I don't see it. Yes, we could play our best games of the season and beat those two teams. But the defense gives up points at an alarming rate and the offense, despite scoring points, seems to have miscues when the game is on the line. As someone else said, I think we have a better chance beating OSU because Pryor seems to go ice cold at times. But that Ohio State defense could also give our offense a great deal of trouble. I guess we will just have to wait and see. [Title]

Output: Not what is possible but what is probable


Input: [Date] 5 years 38 weeks ago [Body] If you have intelligent football criticisms or complaints, fine. But name calling and venting doesn't help and vulgarity and stupidity just reflect poorly on the person making the comments. If you aren't upset by this loss you are not a football fan. Saying this team is about where we thought they would be is not that helpful right now. They just got absolutely shellacked by a heretofor very bad football team. But fans want to know what is wrong and how it is going to get better. That is what I want to know. And I think the continuity is critical. Constantly changing coaches is a recipe for disaster. [Title]

Output: I think the basic idea is good


Input: [Date] 5 years 38 weeks ago [Body] I wasn't so lucky. I yelled dammit and my 2 year old son has been saying it all night. [Title]

Output: Kids and swearing


Input: [Date] 5 years 38 weeks ago [Body] 28-17 sounds good to me. Of course, I would love a real beatdown of a very bad team. A game where there are no turnovers, dumb drive killing penalties or blown coverages that lead to untouched TE waltzing into the endzone. I know the defense is what it is and there are a lot of freshman involved, but I can dream right? It would be nice to see the team gain some confidence and show that they won't play down in these kind of games. Strong games against Illinois and Purdue would help the confidence level heading to Madison. [Title]

Output: I'll take it


Input: [Date] 5 years 39 weeks ago [Body] Wait, what's the bright side again? What kind of time frame is reasonable at the college level to turn around this lack of talent/depth? Is the expectation for next year to suck but not quite as bad and then the year after have a chance at a functioning secondary? I don't follow recruiting closely do don't have a strong sense, particularly on the D side, how quickly recruits can turn things around. [Title]

Output: Well, looking on the bright side


Input: [Date] 5 years 39 weeks ago [Body] Is less "They are what we thought they were." And more here is why I think we can still beat IL, Purdue, WI, OSU, etc. Or why we seemed to compete with Iowa at Iowa despite five turnovers and yet get blown out by Penn State at home. What was the difference and what does it mean for teams like WI and OSU? I understand that there are lot of folks going with the OMG!!! type reaction but can we move on to a better understanding of where this team is? I fully expect Brian to provide this in the coming days. I too have a gut feeling that Forcier is getting a lot of blame for poor blocking and dropped passes - not getting first downs kills the momentum and rhythm - but is his injury serious or not? I look forward to the UFRs. [Title]

Output: What I would like to see


Input: [Date] 5 years 39 weeks ago [Body] We are not talking science for the most part but differing definitions of what is reasonable, etc. Heck, most of the time it is hard to agree on basic facts. Given this, however, I think there is always a huge chunk of fandom who are more emotionally attached and engaged in cheering their team than they are rationally or logically setting expectations and reacting to wins and losses. I also think there has been a lot of polarized arguments here in reaction to Saturday's game. A lot of people upset not so much that Michigan lost but that it was so ugly. A lot of people pushing back against over-reaction by saying that Michigan is exactly where any rational person thought they were going to be - better but still not all that good. I am in between those two poles. I don't think the program is in trouble or that RR is an idiot but I also think the game was a step back and a troubling potential indicator in the short term. If Michigan smacks Illinois around then I will chalk up Saturday to a bad day and feel better about a bowl game. If we struggle against Illinois or lose then I will be forced to wonder about another losing season and what that means for the future. You can be rational and still disagree about what constitutes progress and what are reasonable expectations. [Title]

Output: depends on what you mean by rational


Input: [Date] 5 years 39 weeks ago [Body] As others have noted, you don't have to be a fair weather fan to feel that this game caught you by surprise and lowered your expectations. If you are worried that the team doesn't have the talent to compete with the top tier of the league and are worried it won't be there next year that doesn't make you a fair weather fan. Yes the emotions go up and down but if this game doesn't make you at least worry about a late season slump you are a bigger man than me. [Title]

Output: Yes and no


Input: [Date] 5 years 39 weeks ago [Body] just how far the analogy goes. I was all set to post something very similar here but it appears I have lurked for too long without leaving comments or posting a blog - my blog posting privileges have been revoked. But I linked to this post from my blog (http://www.kevinholtsberry.com/kh/2009/10/24/michigan-football-flunks-it...). I guess I learned the wrong things from the two Iowa games (PSU and ours): that we were a good team who just had to stop turning the ball over and that PSU wasn't that good on offense. I will believe we are a mid-level B10 team when we beat up Purdue and Illinois but not until that happens. - I don't see how RR can keep putting Robinson in if he is going to turn it over with such regularity. - I wonder why we can't seem to keep our best option at QB healthy. Do we need to recruit bigger players at QB as well? - Does anyone have an explanation for the play of Warren? When your best player in the secondary plays like that: Doom! [Title]

Output: I share the entiment but wonder


Input: [Date] 5 years 45 weeks ago [Body] It has been a long year for me professionally and I was in the precarious position of looking to UM football for encouragement. Well, the team has delivered! My mom called knowing how happy I would be after the big win. What a feeling to know you have a QB who can make the plays when the game is on the line. To watch him win like that was sweet. [Title]

Output: What a great feeling


Input: [Date] 6 years 36 weeks ago [Body] People are of course free to disagree with Rosenberg, but I think the book is a great read. I also wish people were better able to disagree intelligently. But emotions are understandably running high. [Title]

Output: Thanks


Input: [Date] 6 years 38 weeks ago [Body] Michigan can actually beat a bad team. If the team can't find a way not to make stupid turnovers or give up big plays against a highly mediocre Purdue team then we know they are simply incapable of doing so. If they can play competent football for four quarters they win, IMO. But I wonder if UM is capable of playing four decent quarters in one game - not great, just decent. I know, the data seems to indicate this question has already been answered, but I am an optimist for one more week. [Title]

Output: This is a chance to prove


Input: [Date] 6 years 38 weeks ago [Body] I could be optimistic. But I just can't see how a team who couldn't find a way to beat Toledo is likely to beat anyone. Two or three wins wouldn't shock me but neither would losing them all. [Title]

Output: If not for Toledo


Input: [Date] 6 years 38 weeks ago [Body] Heh. Well, I didn't pay for the book so that isn't an issue for me. I chatted briefly with Rosenberg about the RR issue at a book talk and he seems dead set on thinking that RR messed up at the start (lawsuit, letting players leave, etc.). He thinks RR will be a successful coach but that he got off to a bad start and could have handled this season better. I know many around here disagree vehemently about some of those issues. I think the book is very different than his column. It is much more focused on telling a story and not taking sides. A column is about taking a strong position with few words. I really do think anyone who has an interest in this rivalry would enjoy the book. [Title]

Output: Rosenberg


Input: [Date] 6 years 40 weeks ago [Body] I think Rosenberg, and many others, simple can't accept the fact that something had to change and it wasn't going to be pretty at first. They insist that Michigan could have hired Miles (and kept all those players, etc.) and the program could just keep on humming along; maybe not great but not this bad. They are in denial about what was likely to happen no matter who coached the team. Sometimes it takes an ugly season to regroup and jump start a program or team. I am willing to deal with this because I have faith the the program is going to be better in the long run. The aim is not mediocrity but greatness and sometimes that risk means an ugly season. [Title]

Output: I agree


Input: [Date] 6 years 41 weeks ago [Body] Did you see the Cowboys Sunday night? [Title]

Output: I don't know


Input: [Date] 3 weeks 6 days ago [Title] You haven't been north of [Body]

Output: You haven't been north of Midland much have you?


Input: [Date] 10 weeks 6 days ago [Title] Vernors is all sugar these [Body]

Output: Vernors is all sugar these days. Skip it. Get something with actual ginger in it. perhaps ginger lemon tea.


Input: [Date] 13 weeks 3 hours ago [Title] Irn-Bru straight from [Body]

Output: Irn-Bru straight from Scotland. Love that stuff and I always ask for it for my birthday. Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad


Input: [Date] 20 weeks 19 hours ago [Title] For me it was a two part [Body]

Output: For me it was a two part process #1- I stopped drinking beer to get drunk. I just wanted to have something that I drink to enjoy. #2- I found some good intermediate beers. I feel like if people jump too far in with things like the hopslam you mentioned they are overwhelmed or dont have enough experience to think it is exceptional. It might be a little like a non-wine drinker tasting a $75 bottle of wine. It just tastes like wine usually. My advice would be to start out with some solid but not extravagant beers like amber ales and ESBs. They are usually pretty well balanced between hop and malt. After establishing some tastes of what you do or don't like you can branch out. You should find a simple craft beer that serves as your go to when you are out or are at some random grocery store. At least then you will have a guiding light in the storm of craft brews.


Input: [Date] 20 weeks 3 days ago [Title] Don't tell the freep that [Body]

Output: Don't tell the freep that practices are longer


Input: [Date] 21 weeks 3 days ago [Title] Maybe Brian just plain [Body]

Output: Maybe Brian just plain doesn't want his board to be half boobs and butts and this was a convenient way to get everyone to nix it.


Input: [Date] 22 weeks 4 days ago [Title] You do know freedom of speech [Body]

Output: You do know freedom of speech is protection from government not from Google and websites right? Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 18 hours ago [Title] Dave Brandon [Body]

Output: Dave Brandon


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 6 days ago [Title] Even with the nitpicking over [Body]

Output: Even with the nitpicking over when Eminem peaked we can still all agree this is a bad idea right? RIGHT?!? Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 6 days ago [Title] You just know this idea [Body]

Output: You just know this idea spawned in a frat party when some bro tried to freestyle and everyone drunkenly thought it was amazing. Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad


Input: [Date] 26 weeks 4 days ago [Title] wow [Body]

Output: wow


Input: [Date] 29 weeks 4 days ago [Title] mmhhmm [Body]

Output: mmhhmm


Input: [Date] 33 weeks 6 days ago [Title] Miles will never come here. [Body]

Output: Miles will never come here. Michigan stadium has no grass.


Input: [Date] 37 weeks 4 days ago [Title] Finally [Body]

Output: Thank you for this


Input: [Date] 39 weeks 1 hour ago [Title] I like how Brandon defends [Body]

Output: I like how Brandon defends not calling the university a brand but instead the block M a brand but then refers to the Michigan brand. Smooth Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad


Input: [Date] 39 weeks 17 hours ago [Title] Hey guys any news on [Body]

Output: Hey guys any news on Gardner's redshirt????


Input: [Date] 39 weeks 5 days ago [Title] Too far [Body]

Output: Too far


Input: [Date] 39 weeks 5 days ago [Title] They're ok [Body]

Output: They're ok


Input: [Date] 41 weeks 5 days ago [Title] Good ol Alton Brown showed me [Body]

Output: Good ol Alton Brown showed me the direct onto the coals cooking. Kudos for spreading the gospel. Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad


Input: [Date] 41 weeks 6 days ago [Title] Noooooo our inside source [Body]

Output: Noooooo our inside source gone!


Input: [Date] 46 weeks 5 days ago [Title] So are professors, athletic [Body]

Output: So are professors, athletic trainers, and all of us fans. so what?


Input: [Date] 46 weeks 6 days ago [Title] I was really hoping to never [Body]

Output: I was really hoping to never hear the term blue waffle again. Bad move to be on the internet.


Input: [Date] 49 weeks 3 days ago [Title] Getting relegated this year [Body]

Output: Getting relegated this year but Norwich City is my team. Lived in Norwich for 4 years in my late teens.


Input: [Date] 1 year 2 weeks ago [Title] Iowa State is a BCS school. [Body]

Output: Iowa State is a BCS school.


Input: [Date] 1 year 6 weeks ago [Title] *dominant normally I wouldn't [Body]

Output: *dominant normally I wouldn't say anything but you have misused dominate twice now.


Input: [Date] 1 year 6 weeks ago [Title] Don't watch the NBA and my [Body]

Output: Don't watch the NBA and my NFL watching has waned in recent years.


Input: [Date] 1 year 6 weeks ago [Title] For a fringe soccer fan like [Body]

Output: For a fringe soccer fan like me that call makes me not want to watch much more of this World Cup. Especially when the announcers say things like that is the first of many controversies.


Input: [Date] 1 year 7 weeks ago [Title] part of his eyes for Michigan [Body]

Output: part of his eyes for Michigan might be the beatdown Michigan fans put on everyone each year of their charity fundraiser.


Input: [Date] 1 year 7 weeks ago [Title] Does anyone know when we will [Body]

Output: Does anyone know when we will hear about Devin Gardner's medical redshirt??!


Input: [Date] 5 days 2 hours ago [Body] Interesting to me he's so down on Kugler. The fact that Cole ran with the ones during Glasgow's suspension doesn't really mean much IMO. Cole will play left tackle, and Glasgow has positional flexibility. Kugler has looked pretty good to my eyes, minus getting blown up once or twice against Willie Henry. If Kugler can be decent at center, that opens up a lot of possibilities and adds some insurance if one of the other guys (probably Braden) struggles, or, knock on wood, injuries/suspensions happen. [Title]

Output: Interesting to me he's so


Input: [Date] 1 week 1 hour ago [Body] The race for the podium spots are going to be interesting, well for this at least (Quintana probably had second locked up). Lots of guys right around each other on time and about the same level. [Title]

Output: The race for the podium spots


Input: [Date] 1 week 2 hours ago [Body] Yeah, he and BMC have both publicly stated that the podium is the goal, not winning. I think they know tejay just doesn't have the firepower to beat the very best guys, especially with no long ITT this year. He also doesn't have a strong enough team to go on the offensive and he's too close on time for the leaders to let him get away on a solo attack. [Title]

Output: Yeah, he and BMC have both


Input: [Date] 1 week 2 hours ago [Body] As much as we love tough guys, I wish cycling backs off the continue at all costs culture a little. There's no way a guy who bonked his head off a telephone pole like that should be allowed to continue descending mountain roads at 60mph without getting checked out first. Thomas ended up being fine, but Chris Horner, for example finished a whole stage a few years back without knowing where he was. [Title]

Output: As much as we love tough


Input: [Date] 1 week 2 hours ago [Body] They scream doping for every tour winner. All too easy to assume cheating when your guy isn't winning, given cycling's history. [Title]

Output: They scream doping for every


Input: [Date] 1 week 2 hours ago [Body] Favors tejay as far as not getting dropped. No way he rides anyone off his wheel doing steady tempo though. Froome and the sky train are also good at riding tempo on steady inclines. The only real chance anyone has is attacking them on the steeps and there just aren't that many kms above 10% left to go. Most of the guys behind him will probably be looking to protect their positions and fighting for a podium spot instead of really working together to crack Froome and sky from here on out. Hope I'm wrong, but that's been how tours with one dominant rider/team have gone done for years now. [Title]

Output: Favors tejay as far as not


Input: [Date] 1 week 3 hours ago [Body] Nope, his problem is he's trying to do the Giro, Tour double and is virtually impossible to peak for both. He was just as dominant for the Giro. Hell, he even looked pretty good last tour despite doing the giro, before he crashed out. [Title]

Output: Nope, his problem is he's


Input: [Date] 2 weeks 3 days ago [Body] At least it's not Dominos, amirite? [Title]

Output: At least it's not Dominos,


Input: [Date] 2 weeks 4 days ago [Body] The voluntary program is an above and beyond standard that many teams choose to adhere to. The governing body's testing is most definitely not voluntary. Low cortisone levels are legitimately caused by inhalers, which are legal to use, which is why the official rules allowed him to race. I'm not going to say everyone's clean, but the level of doping controls that have been implemented recently are above and beyond just about any other sport (Google "biological passport"). I understand people being skeptical with cycling's history, but to assume nothing's changed since the Land era is really unfair. [Title]

Output: The voluntary program is an


Input: [Date] 2 weeks 4 days ago [Body] Poor damn Tony Martin. At least he got his day (s) in yellow. Looks like he'll officially be the yellow jersey since he technically is a DNS for tomorrow and not a DNF for today. Also, Sagan must be kicking himself for signing with Saxo. He turns himself inside out and saves Contador's tour twice, but can't get even one guy on the team to lead him out. [Title]

Output: Poor damn Tony Martin. At


Input: [Date] 2 weeks 4 days ago [Body] They should be fine in the TTT. They're in the team lead largely on their good individual results on the prologue TT. [Title]

Output: They should be fine in the


Input: [Date] 3 weeks 5 days ago [Body] The yelp segment had me crying. I can't wait for him to be back on the air. [Title]

Output: The yelp segment had me


Input: [Date] 4 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Tour de France is my go to crutch for this time of year. Goes all through July, meaning it takes you pretty much from end of NHL/NBA playoffs to when fall camp starts and news from that starts trickling out. [Title]

Output: Tour de France is my go to


Input: [Date] 4 weeks 5 days ago [Body] The "except in all things that negatively impact Michigan" is implied. [Title]

Output: The "except in all things


Input: [Date] 4 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Day hiking is one thing, but to me wilderness is implied when it comes to backpacking, otherwise what's the point? If you can drive right up to the campsites and just as easily go home and sleep in your own bed and come back the next day, you're really just going through the motions for the sake of it. It is a great local trail for a tune up before a trip though. Another one in the area is the Potowatomi trail. It's nice that it's a loop (with cut offs if need be), downside is you have to share with mountain bikers, which can get pretty annoying on the weekends. [Title]

Output: Day hiking is one thing, but


Input: [Date] 4 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Porcupine mountains are my favorite. There's a great loop that runs 4-5 days that let's you get a great sampling of Northern Michigan wilderness. You get a night on the lake superior coast, one by a babbling stream, one by a gorgeous inland lake (Lake of the Clouds or Mirror Lake), and on top of a Appalachianesque escarpment. If you plan ahead, you might even be able to add a night in one of the cabins spread out through the park. Since it's a State Park, not a National Park, there are fewer rules and no permits required. If you're feeling adventurous you can even venture of trail and disperse camp outside of the established sites. [Title]

Output: Porcupine mountains are my


Input: [Date] 4 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Close, sure, but it's hardly a wilderness experience. [Title]

Output: Close, sure, but it's hardly


Input: [Date] 5 weeks 1 day ago [Body] There's no kind of about it. [Title]

Output: Kind of?


Input: [Date] 5 weeks 4 days ago [Body] Blue Tractor is decent in general, but their brisket is pretty hit or miss. Once I went and it was great, second time was more like roast beef (and not the good kind either). If you can settle for pork, most stuff there is pretty good. [Title]

Output: Blue Tractor is decent in


Input: [Date] 5 weeks 6 days ago [Body] As someone married to a college administrator, I can tell you that this isn't the case,at least not until you get very high up the good chain. Everywhere my wife had worked had been extremely short staffed and the expectation is for people to work nights and weekends indefinitely. [Title]

Output: As someone married to a


Input: [Date] 5 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Don't forget about their current douchebag coach. [Title]

Output: Don't forget about their


Input: [Date] 6 weeks 2 hours ago [Body] Admit it, you guys are just covering for Ace and his carpal tunnel ridden hands. [Title]

Output: Admit it, you guys are just


Input: [Date] 7 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Unless they totally change the formula, it will be an open world with maybe certain separate areas you access for specific quests. [Title]

Output: Unless they totally change


Input: [Date] 7 weeks 6 days ago [Body] If you're even remotely interested in the fantasy RPG genre, I would go get Witcher 3 today. It's a masterpiece, you will not regret it. [Title]

Output: If you're even remotely


Input: [Date] 14 weeks 4 days ago [Body] "Harbaugh even offered up Michigan's cavernous indoor practice facility, the Al Glick Field House, and the team's weight room to help the Ultimate team prepare for regionals." That is just awesome. [Title]

Output: "Harbaugh even offered up


Input: [Date] 15 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Run game is expected to be a struggle at this point, as is QB. The spring game format definitely didn't help things. I think people are freaking out more about WRs because that position is more based on individual athleticism vs chemistry and timing. [Title]

Output: Run game is expected to be a


Input: [Date] 15 weeks 5 days ago [Body] My first ever triple post [Title]

Output: Delete


Input: [Date] 15 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Delete [Title]

Output: Delete


Input: [Date] 15 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Sadly, if he continues to do well on the field, he'll continue to have his pick of top recruits. See exhibit A: Nick Saban and Alabama. [Title]

Output: Sadly, if he continues to do


Input: [Date] 15 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Up: I would say Hurst, but I've been high on him for a couple years now. I guess I'll go with Bolden. He seems to be playing fast and living up to the hype finally. Hopefully it translates to when the pressure is on in earnest come this fall, but he looked like a different player out there, reading and reacting instead of waiting for the play to come to him. Down: Gotta pick one of the receivers, hard to say who. I'll go with Mo Ways. I thought he looked fantastic during last year's fall scrimmage, but he doesn't seem to have made much progress since then, or even maybe took a step back. I dunno, maybe our secondary got better, but he didn't really separate himself from the DBs, or from the other receivers (who also couldn't get separation on non-Norfleet DBs). [Title]

Output: Up: I would say Hurst, but


Input: [Date] 15 weeks 5 days ago [Body] For context Dr. James Andrews performed Braxton Miller's shoulder surgery, so it's not as if OSU doesn't respect his medical opinion... except when they need to get to 85 players by fall I guess. [Title]

Output: For context Dr. James Andrews


Input: [Date] 15 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Stribling played well all game. He was a big part of the "receivers problem" people saw and was locking his guy down the whole time and not allowing any separation. They never really went to his side of the field, not surprising considering they had great matchups on the other side with Norfleet all day. [Title]

Output: Stribling played well all


Input: [Date] 16 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I agree Hoke's public speaking was tough to watch at times, but if you watch the video for this presser, I'm not sure Harbaugh is that big of an improvement. His style seems to be a lot of short sentence fragments that leave the reader/listener to sort of fill in the blanks to understand what he's trying to say. [Title]

Output: I agree Hoke's public


Input: [Date] 16 weeks 2 days ago [Body] I'm guessing he means Isaac, who only had one carry as far as I could tell, and is likely nursing an injury. [Title]

Output: I'm guessing he means Isaac,


Input: [Date] 16 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Not that I'm not nervous about it, but run game is the last to come together and the draft system makes it even tougher. You've got guys that haven't played together next to each other on both teams and at least a couple of 2nd teamers going against 1st team DL and LBs every snap. Our receivers are the ones that have me worried the most, zero separation on any DB except for Norfleet and a lot of guys getting their routes run for them by the DBs. Blocking on the perimeter on bubble screens and sweeps were terrible all day to boot. WR should be farther along at this point since it's largely an individual effort vs a coordinated effort like running the ball. [Title]

Output: Not that I'm not nervous


Input: [Date] 17 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Drevno and Durkin were doing the drafting, so I sure as hell hope they do. [Title]

Output: Drevno and Durkin were doing


Input: [Date] 17 weeks 2 days ago [Body] DELETE [Title]

Output: From what I can gather on


Input: [Date] 17 weeks 5 days ago [Body] The point isn't whether smoking weed is a big deal or not, the point is do you have control over using it. Not being able to lay off for a month so as to not jeopordize a huge paycheck likely means they can't lay off enough to not be high at practices and games. [Title]

Output: The point isn't whether


Input: [Date] 17 weeks 5 days ago [Body] He's been more or less shut down since his high school senior season. One hamstring back then, another last year, and now this. I feel terrible for the kid. Hope the medical staff and trainers can figure out what the hell is going one and keep this from happening again. [Title]

Output: He's been more or less shut


Input: [Date] 18 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I never felt pass rush was really the issue. They weren't great certainly, and if you look at the stats they were pretty awful. But watching the games, it was pretty clear to me the problem was the secondary. We got dinked and dunked to death a lot. There's just not much you can do as a pass rusher when the QB does a 3 step drop and the receiver has beat the jam from the DB, or the DB is playing 10 yards off, for a easy 5-10 yard completion. [Title]

Output: I never felt pass rush was


Input: [Date] 18 weeks 1 day ago [Body] We did it last year. I figured I'd find ways to watch certain stuff, but truth be told, I never even bothered. It's amazing how "much watch" turns into "meh" once you don't have it for a while. We have Netflix for the few times a week we just want to put something on the TV while we eat or something. I'm sure as football season rolls around, I'll want to look for options again, but right now, I have really zero regrets about not having any cable service whatsoever. [Title]

Output: We did it last year. I


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 1 day ago [Body] It's a good fire 'em up drill, but isn't all that relevant to football. The defenders are attacking a gap between two blockers in most cases, not going heads up against a guy like this and having to defend the RB going to either side of the blocker. [Title]

Output: It's a good fire 'em up


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 1 day ago [Body] He had the lions share of snaps at FB under Borges, we didn't see him much last year because we didn't see any FBs much under the Nuss system. [Title]

Output: He had the lions share of


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Well, I should preface that I'm not a city person. I lived in the suburbs there, which was maybe the worst of both worlds. Bad traffic, high cost of living, zero outdoor activities within reasonable distance, (at the risk of getting political) and stupid gun laws. Michigan/Detroit area is just a much better fit for me. [Title]

Output: Well, I should preface that


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 5 days ago [Body] I lived in Chicago for a few years, eastern edge of a time zone. It was really depressing. On cloudy days in the winter it was dark by 4 in the afternoon. One of the many things I hated about living there. [Title]

Output: I lived in Chicago for a few


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 5 days ago [Body] I wish they'd just keep it year round, which is kind of what we're heading towards (DST was expanded a few years ago). Most people want daylight after work, not before. This way you can have that and not have to deal with the internal clock issues twice a year. Yes, I realize everyone could just go to work earlier, but the institutional inertia of the 9-5 is going to be hard to break. [Title]

Output: I wish they'd just keep it


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 5 days ago [Body] He looked great to me in the Spring Game last year, slightly less so in the Fall Scrimmage (no one on OL looked good). Miller beat him out, but I bet it was only by a little. Now he's gotten one more year under his belt and seems ready to contribute according to practice reports. That's right on track for a RS SO. [Title]

Output: He looked great to me in the


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Rare, but not unheard of. Some people do actually go to play school. [Title]

Output: Rare, but not unheard of.


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Well I guess that explains Sam switching his expected starter from Miller to Kugler overnight. [Title]

Output: Well I guess that explains


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 5 days ago [Body] His OL was maybe more porous than Michigan's last year, he spent most of his career running for his life IIRC, and then missed a ton of time due to mono. [Title]

Output: His OL was maybe more porous


Input: [Date] 19 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Couple things: 1. You need bodies at special teams. Just because a guy doesn't record tackles or other stats there doesn't mean he was needed. LBs seem to be the prime candidates here since they're size/athleticism combo is perfect for coverage and blocking. Same goes for FBs. Some of those get passes in my book. 2. Probably the bigger one is that the 2013 and 14 seasons were so awful we never got much garbage time, even against the cupcakes. Guys that were probably slated to start on ST and work their way into garbage time play, and them possibly into starter/role player types never got the chance to do so. Dymonte was probably a textbook case of this, guy with tremendous upside that the was penciled to play right away, but never got the game experience because every damn game was so tight and ended up having his timeline pushed back a whole year. I do agree redshirting and long term roster management was not given enough priority by the previous coaches, especially after recruiting started dropping off inevitably and fewer and fewer game ready, can't miss, freshman were signing with Michigan. [Title]

Output: Couple things:1. You need


Input: [Date] 21 weeks 5 days ago [Body] I was thinking the same thing. 1. Do something asinine. 2. Get surprised by back lash 3. Back-pedal and deny [Title]

Output: I was thinking the same


Input: [Date] 21 weeks 5 days ago [Body] My worst is Michigan Stadium unfortunately. I like to be in my seats for kick-off and a little before if I can swing it. My then girlfriend, now wife, got a student ticket so we had to go get it validated. No big deal, I like walking around campus on game day, but it did put us a bit behind schedule. She had her purse with her to pay for the extra fee for non-students. Well, not thinking clearly we head straight to the gate and sure enough being late meant a huge line. It wasn't until we got to the very front some 20 minutes later that we realized they weren't going to let her in with the purse. Fuck. Ok, walk over to Crisler to check it. Another huge line. Finally get inside the concourse about the end of the 1st quarter, get to our section and, ugh, line literally to the fence. Another 15 minutes, and it's midway through 2nd quarter before we finally get to our seats. Midway through halftime, I go take a piss and yup, you guessed it, huge fucking line. They were doing work on one of the bathrooms or something so everyone on that half of the stadium had to use one bathroom. Finally get back mid-way through the 3rd and by that point we're getting blown out (can't remember the game, pretty sure it was 2009 though, so Penn State?). Just miserable. Oh and we go to get my girlfriend/wife's purse after the game and another huge line. I literally spent more time in line that day than actually in my seat watching football. Close second would be 2008 Northwestern for obvious reasons. [Title]

Output: My worst is Michigan Stadium


Input: [Date] 21 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Harbuagh's 3 step drop looks like he never quit playing. [Title]

Output: Harbuagh's 3 step drop looks


Input: [Date] 22 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I missed the Funchess thread, but I'm not surprised at all. Ever since the Fall Scrimmage, I've been saying how slow all our receivers looked. They made the secondary look amazing all Spring and Fall, and then ND torched us with guys that actually could run. We never could get an inch of separation even on mediocre defensive backs. [Title]

Output: I missed the Funchess thread,


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 20 hours ago [Body] I don't know if I'd go as far as to say I won't cheer for him, but there's definitely a feeling he didn't exactly put the team first in his time here. From his lackluster blocking, to seemingly lack of focus this last year (e.g. drops, short arming catches, more bad blocking), to his early exit, his career isn't exactly one I would hold up as an example of a model Michigan student athlete. [Title]

Output: I don't know if I'd go as far


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 3 days ago [Body] This man is a fucking genius. Getting paid to not do something more than most people make in their entire lives. [Title]

Output: This man is a fucking genius.


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 4 days ago [Body] Replies are threaded just like here, each reply is the next indent. Comments and replies within the same level are sorted by upvote algorithm, so the best comments come to the top for each level, then top reply to that comment, etc. [Title]

Output: Replies are threaded just


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 5 days ago [Body] I'm with Brian, I'll (grudgingly) give them the benefit of the doubt that they actually expect legitimate attrition. [Title]

Output: I'm with Brian, I'll


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 5 days ago [Body] By the letter of the law, yes, but what matters is how you get down to the limit. If you have guys you've talked with in private and that don't figure to return, that's one thing. If you have guys that are getting pushed out or medicaled on trumped up injuries, that's another. I think the reason Brian said what ohio is doing isn't a big deal is because the guys that got medicals actually did have legitimate injuries. [Title]

Output: By the letter of the law,


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Yes, but relative to some of the prediction threads (so many threads) right when HARBAUGH got hired, that was spot on. Recruiting is about relationships, and yes you do commit to a coaching staff just as much as if not more than a school. Harbaugh's star power got a lot of visits and interest, but in the end it's hard to trump relationships players committed elsewhere have built over years in just a little over a month. I suspect that'll be the case with on field performance as well. There's a lot of inertia in a college program and those thinking Harbaugh will snap his fingers and make it all ok are likely in for a rude awakening come Sept. [Title]

Output: Yes, but relative to some of


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Why does the Norfleet one bother people so much? He was a signing day pick-up with zero expectations. We'll get 4 years of production at KR from him (he's the record holder for total return yards, BTW), which exceeds what you expect out of a recruit of his level. I know everyone sees him juking guys in tight spaces and thinks he could have been more, but he really didn't get much out of his offensive snaps despite having a shot under two different offensive schemes. Not sure how a RS would really help there. I dunno, if Harbaugh somehow turns him into an unstoppable offensive weapon this year, I guess I'll retract my statement, but I don't see that happening. [Title]

Output: Why does the Norfleet one


Input: [Date] 23 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Pipkins played a ton as a freshman and sophomore at a position of need before getting hurt. Guys get hurt and can't find the field again all the time, doesn't mean they should take a redshirt year to recover. That's pretty rare. [Title]

Output: Pipkins played a ton as a


Input: [Date] 24 weeks 21 hours ago [Body] I would still exterminate you. Can't be too careful. [Title]

Output: I would still exterminate


Input: [Date] 24 weeks 4 days ago [Body] Journalism and sports writing don't have a whole lot in common. [Title]

Output: Journalism and sports writing


Input: [Date] 24 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Considering his genes, whatever 40 time he claims gets zero FAKES from me. [Title]

Output: Considering his genes,


Input: [Date] 25 weeks 1 day ago [Body] had they not used most of the playclock before snapping the ball on 2nd down. I think that's the key point. Belichick not calling his TO might have screwed with Seahawks enough that they A) let the clock run more than they wanted, and B) made a boneheaded playcall in a time-crunched situation. Like I said, not sure if it was pre-meditated by Belichick, but it certainly is possible that it did mess up how the Seahawks handled those next few plays. [Title]

Output: had they not used most of the


Input: [Date] 25 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Saw an interesting post on Reddit about Belichick "baiting" the throw that got INT'ed. If he had called time out right away, the Seahawks would have run, run, run all the downs to kill clock. By letting the clock run and probably surprising the Seahawks, they had to have at least one throwing play, probably two since they themselves only had on time out. They saw the goal line stand package and decided to run on 2nd down and the rest is history. Not sure I totally buy it that Belichick had all that planned, but it's an interesting idea nonetheless. [Title]

Output: Saw an interesting post on


Input: [Date] 25 weeks 6 days ago [Body] I agree, way too many people are writing him off already. He looked bad so far, but not really that bad relative to his experience level and given the fact he's changed coaches every year. Yes, he'll be going through another transition, but more total experience should hopefully help him weather it a bit better this time around. [Title]

Output: I agree, way too many people


Input: [Date] 26 weeks 1 hour ago [Body] So who were you before you got banned? [Title]

Output: So who were you before you


Input: [Date] 26 weeks 3 hours ago [Body] Recruiting is also only getting more front loaded too. Even in 2012, it was pretty common to be uncommitted until later. Now it seems like most quality recruits are all committed before they can even take officials. [Title]

Output: Recruiting is also only


Input: [Date] 26 weeks 3 hours ago [Body] IIRC he had pretty much his entire staff ready to go while Fickle was still coaching for the bowl game, essentially giving Ohio two staffs, one to handle the team, another to focus entirely on recruiting. [Title]

Output: IIRC he had pretty much his


Input: [Date] 26 weeks 15 hours ago [Body] We've been on the other side on numerous occasions. Kid starts looking around, coaches get wind and tell them if they visit around, they're no longer committed, kid thinks better of it and cancels visits. [Title]

Output: We've been on the other side


Input: [Date] 26 weeks 5 days ago [Body] +1 from me. Just cut the cord myself recently. I was going to wait until end of football season (which I had assumed was early Jan for Michigan, lol), but after... well *that* happened, I cut the cord in Oct. This sling box thing from Dish looks mighty interesting, but I still need a way to fill in for BTN. [Title]

Output: +1 from me. Just cut the cord


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 4 days ago [Body] Sr seems to be taking an admirably hands of approach and letting his son decide for himself. I remember he came with on one of the visits (Spring Game?) and basically dropped Jr off and went and did his own thing with alumni and former teammates. [Title]

Output: Sr seems to be taking an


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] 13b free solo is ridiculous, that's what makes Honnold famous. 13b in general isn't that hard at all, relatively speaking, for elite climbers. You can find someone in most any gym or crag in the country that can climb that. You wouldn't even get a sniff at sponsorship at that level (male anyway). Honnold is obviously a every good climber to be confident in tackling 13s free solo, but even if you consider his max red point grade 14b/c, he still wouldn't be in the elite class. What sets him apart isn't his maximum grade, its how far he's willing to push free soloing. [Title]

Output: 13b free solo is ridiculous,


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] What Alex does is relatively easy, but dangerous. What these guys are doing is relatively safe, but ridiculously hard on a technical level. Skill vs balls, although yes certainly an element of both for each case. [Title]

Output: What Alex does is relatively


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] The nomenclature is weird. Climbing first started with pulling oneself up on gear at least part of the way. Today that's regarded as "aid climbing" but back in the day it was just normal climbing. To distinguish ascents that were done with out weighting or pulling on gear, the term "free climb" was coined. Climbing without a rope is known as "free soloing." [Title]

Output: The nomenclature is weird.


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Hard to say. The thing is, you have to be absolutely obsessed with the project. Caldwell has worked on this close to a decade amd Jorgeson for 3. There are certainly other climbers strong enough to do it, but they're usually focused on their own projects and I don't see them basically putting everything else on hold for long enough to learn all the details about the climb that you need to be successful. [Title]

Output: Hard to say. The thing is,


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] The only thing that makes their attempt not ground up is that they were resupplied. Being pitches apart isn't a big deal and only happened because Caldwell really wanted Jorgeson to send the crux pitches too. In a normal attempt, Jorgeson would have just jugged up fixed ropes and continued with the rest of thr climb. And he actually did do that anyway to belay and help Caldwell. [Title]

Output: The only thing that makes


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] That's not typically the standard for freeing a route. You can fall as long as you lower down and repeat that pitch, not the entire climb. [Title]

Output: That's not typically the


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] I downvoted. Sorry. As a climber, I hear this all. the. time. It gets old pretty quick. [Title]

Output: I downvoted. Sorry. As a


Input: [Date] 27 weeks 5 days ago [Body] If anything, Honnold and the French guy have more in common than either to Caldwell/Jorgrson, at least in terms of what he's known for (Honnold's a pretty good roped in climber too). Free soloing, climbing without a rope, is done on much much lower technical difficulty, but obviously much more dire consequences. Same goes for building climbing, much easier technically. What these guys are doing is at the very cutting edge of difficulty. There are only a small group of people that can climb 5.14d period, let alone two of them, back to back, in between a dozen other pitches of 5.13 and 5.14. [Title]

Output: If anything, Honnold and the


Input: [Date] 28 weeks 42 min ago [Body] There's a big difference between running routes in a vanilla offense and against a vanilla defense, which we all know he can do, and understanding a system, including all the on the fly adjustments. There were at least a couple of instances where Gardner threw an INT because they weren't on the same page, most likely due to Canteen not making a correct read and adjusting his route accordingly. He also was clearly not ready physically to be an effective blocker, although I will credit him for making an effort unlike some (cough cough, Funchess). [Title]

Output: There's a big difference


Input: [Date] 28 weeks 1 day ago [Body] He's 65 y/o. He gets to continue coaching and working with kids, which is his passion, without as much pressure and responsibility. Plus Michigan's contractually obligated to keep paying him his DC salary, so that definitely helps. Seems like a natural fit. [Title]

Output: He's 65 y/o. He gets to


Input: [Date] 28 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Bwahahahahahaha.... *breathes* hahahahaha [Title]

Output: Bwahahahahahaha....


Input: [Date] 28 weeks 5 days ago [Body] I feel like I've been Rickrolled [Title]

Output: I feel like I've been


Input: [Date] 29 weeks 20 hours ago [Body] As a recent cord cutter, the Dish deal to provide ESPN and ESPN2 for $20 a month is awesome news. [Title]

Output: As a recent cord cutter, the


Input: [Date] 29 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Blatantly holding by the right guard, does it get called? No, holding call on Detroit instead. [Title]

Output: Blatantly holding by the


Input: [Date] 29 weeks 1 day ago [Body] What the actual fuck? [Title]

Output: What the actual fuck?


Input: [Date] 29 weeks 1 day ago [Body] What about in the community? [Title]

Output: What about the community?


Input: [Date] 30 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Yes, a month different, or another way to look at it is twice as long. A lot of those guys were guys ohio were already in on. Harbaugh will (hopefully) do the same and resign some decommitted guys plus maybe a couple others on the board, but top twenty class (especially with our class size) with a 5 star? I just don't see it. I guess we'll find out soon enough. [Title]

Output: Yes, a month different, or


Input: [Date] 30 weeks 1 day ago [Body] You do remember urban was basically full time recruiting since November while Fickle kept the seat warm for him right? [Title]

Output: You do remember urban was


Input: [Date] 30 weeks 1 day ago [Body] The assistants are going to be largely new and just getting the lay of the land too. Many will also be from the NFL from the sounds of it. Yeah, some might be able to take a recruit or two with them, but you have less pull as you move down the food chain. Look, I'm not saying harbaugh isn't going to be a huge boon to recruiting, he will be. But transitional classes are tough sledding, even for top 5/top 10 coaches. [Title]

Output: The assistants are going to


Input: [Date] 30 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I don't think *you* understand how recruiting works. Kids don't just sign up for the hottest name. They have to build a relationship and feel comfortable with the person that will basically be running their lives for the next 4-5 years. And is not just the HC either, the relationship with the entire staff is just as important, as is familiarity with players and fellow commits. [Title]

Output: I don't think *you*


Input: [Date] 30 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Good gravy, let the unrealistic expectations begin. He's an NFL coach who hasn't done any recruiting in years. It's not like he was recruiting at another school and had relationships built that he can use to flip kids to Michigan. He's got less than two months to start from basically scratch to mostly flip guys already committed else where. If he can bring back a couple guys that decommitted without losing anyone else, and fill the rest of the spots with decent 3 star talent, I'd be pretty happy. [Title]

Output: Good gravy, let the


Input: [Date] 31 weeks 6 days ago [Body] I'm in. If he doesn't come, $25 to ASPCA? [Title]

Output: I'm in. If he doesn't come,


Input: [Date] 32 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Voted on 3 devices and posted it to social media. The guy absolutely deserves it. [Title]

Output: Voted on 3 devices and posted


Input: [Date] 32 weeks 6 days ago [Body] I asked for a T-Shirt from the Hope for Pahokee guys as far as M related stuff. My biggest thing for Christmas I'm going to have to get for myself. I'm building a nice target rifle and my entire family pretty much detests guns so I can't really ask them for anything related to that (and it would be too expensive anyway) [Title]

Output: I asked for a T-Shirt from


Input: [Date] 32 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Good catch, thanks. [Title]

Output: Good catch, thanks.


Input: [Date] 32 weeks 6 days ago [Body] Unless he does really well in the combine (which he probably will) I think this is a mistake for him. He's got size, decent speed and athleticism, but the few times I've watched him live, he never seemed to get the type of separation through his route running that you would think an NFL prospect would. Even on TV, a lot of his targets were with a DB or even sometimes a LB in his hip pocket. I think he'll get drafted, and probably not all that low, but he could have done better with another year to work on his game IMO. Can't really blame the guy on the other hand with the coaching transition looming I guess, but just the same, you'd think he'd at least wait to see who the next guy is before committing one way or the other. [Title]

Output: Unless he does really well in


Input: [Date] 33 weeks 23 hours ago [Body] Benny's has been a favorite of mine since I was a Sophomore. Instead of waiting hours at the other campus places, we'd load up into whoever had a car and drive there. Good food, prices are good, not as busy and it's a popular spot for athletes so you can heckle them about their loss the day before (don't actually do this). [Title]

Output: Benny's has been a favorite


Input: [Date] 33 weeks 4 days ago [Body] Honestly, I never saw the OMG MATCH-UP NIGHTMARE thing everyone keeps talking about with Funchess. Yeah, he's big and has straightline speed (sort of), but he doesn't get himself open. Of course before the season, everyone, including me, thought that was because our corners were awesome. Turns out, it was mostly that our receivers were the plodding possession variety. Funchess included. His drops issues and injuries just totally torpedoed any remaining chance he had of making an impact this year. [Title]

Output: Honestly, I never saw the OMG


Input: [Date] 33 weeks 4 days ago [Body] My reading of the grayshirt QB thing is that he's not going anywhere, or at least not actively thinking about it. A) why tarnish your image just before you start job hunting and B) more importantly, why give a shit about the MSU roster to stick your neck out and make a move like that if you're not going to be around next year. [Title]

Output: My reading of the grayshirt


Input: [Date] 33 weeks 6 days ago [Body] I'll say this, there hasn't been a shortage of entertaining games, even some of the ones we came out on the wrong end of, or shouldn't have been close. A lot of nail biters, come backs, unlikely turn of events, etc for 4 seasons. [Title]

Output: I'll say this, there hasn't


Input: [Date] 33 weeks 6 days ago [Body] OL in 2013 and QB in 2014 happened. In a lot of ways, getting rid of Al was a terrible move short term. Gardner was already physically messed up, another QB coach and system pretty much just did him in. I dunno, it probably had to be done after 2013, but it was a huge gamble that ended up not paying off and then some. [Title]

Output: OL in 2013 and QB in 2014


Input: [Date] 33 weeks 6 days ago [Body] In a lot of ways, Hoke staying as a DL coach would make a lot of sense. He's clearly good at it, he's a hell of a recruiter. and he could stay and look over the guys he's recruited and grown close to. Of course no new HC is going to sign up for that, having his predecessor on the program under him and potentially undermining him (not that Brady would do that, but I'm sure a lot of players would still see him as the coach). I doubt Brady would be interested either. [Title]

Output: In a lot of ways, Hoke


Input: [Date] 34 weeks 22 hours ago [Body] Technically correct is the best kind of correct [Title]

Output: Technically correct is the


Input: [Date] 34 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Isn't the Clark thing the exact reason for waiting until the end? I mean, I think it's kinda dumb too, but naming a captain that later ends up booted from the team later is precisely the type of thing you avoid by waiting. [Title]

Output: Isn't the Clark thing the


Input: [Date] 34 weeks 1 day ago [Title]

Output: Paying my bet with BloomingtonBlue


Input: [Date] 41 weeks 4 days ago [Body] How I feel about our offense finally being serviceable just in time for the defense to implode. [Title]

Output: How I feel about our offense


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] This may be the most impressive suicide by mod I've ever seen. [Title]

Output: This may be the most


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Ugh, they need to come completely clean on this whole thing and provide a detailed account from those involved, and I don't just mean Brady's personal take in the post-game presser. The lack of information has just fueled this and will continue to because the visual evidence alone is really damning. The truth might be bad as well, but at least it won't be speculation, which is always worse. Get everyone involved's take, Morris, Hoke, Nuss, Schmidt and get it out there quickly. [Title]

Output: Ugh, they need to come


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I don't see how I can be wrong when I clearly concede that one possiblity is that Schmidt screwed up. Or when I clearly concede in my OP that the matter wasn't handled well. The point I'm making is everyone is pretending like they know with certainty exactly what happened. You don't. Let's hold off on destroying a man's reputation until more information comes out from the parties involved, which at this point is next to nothing. [Title]

Output: I don't see how I can be


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I think a coordinator is too risky right now. There's a big difference in skillsets required to go from a coordinator to a HC. Some guys make the leap, some fail miserably, and it's really hard to tell the difference beforehand. Michigan needs a known entity, we can't afford to be someone's audition or first foray into head coaching. [Title]

Output: I think a coordinator is too


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] This. By now, if not Hoke himself, then someone will have realized how woefully inadequate the post game response was. They have one chance to regain the narrative and I hope they come clean on the entire sequence of events, including Morris's point of view, Nuss's point of view, Paul Schmidt's (Athletic Trainer) point of view, etc. This may or may not be as big of a deal as people are making it to be, but the lack of a real answer from the guys involved have let the public fill in the blanks with the worst case scenario. [Title]

Output: This. By now, if not Hoke


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Gardner was, at several points in 2013, just as visibly hobbled as Morris (pre head hit). So is Funchess right now. Neither of those guys are in any better position to "protect themselves." Hell, we had a pretty good torch and pitchfork session about Funchess's blocking effort last week, with no slack given for literally hoping around on one leg on the sidelines. Right or wrong, playing hurt is pretty ubiquitous, and not just on this team. [Title]

Output: Gardner was, at several


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] The problem is the rules are fairly ambiguous: Here's the relevant section on diagnosis (bold emphasis mine) "Recognition and diagnosis of concussion: All student-athletes who are experiencing signs, symptoms or behaviors consistent with a sport-related concussion, at rest or with exertion, must be removed from practice or competition and referred to an athletic trainer or team physician with experience in concussion management. A student-athlete’s health care provider experienced in the diagnosis and management of concussion should conduct and document serial clinical evaluation inclusive of symptom inventory and evaluation of cognition and balance. A student-athlete diagnosed with sport-related concussion should not be allowed to return to play in the current game or practice and should be withheld from athletic activity for the remainder of the day. Disposition decisions for more serious injuries such as cervical spine trauma, skull fracture or intracranial bleed, should be made at the time of presentation." So, Paul Schmidt talking to Morris and not seeing concussion like symptoms seems to have the discretion to not conduct the evaluation. Again, concussion seems like a forgone conclusion given the video we saw, but Schmidt is right there next to the guy talking to him and in a much better position to make the call, as well has being more qualified. I will concede it's possible that Schmidt simply screwed up as well. We don't know at this point.. [Title]

Output: The problem is the rules are


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Of course it's not. The guy said Morris should have been taken out before the head hit, which is different from how we treated Gardner last year. [Title]

Output: Of course it's not. The guy


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] So it's ok to play a player hurt as long as he's helping you win? Isn't that exactly the mindset people are railing against? [Title]

Output: So it's ok to play a player


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I guess I'm doing a poor job framing this. I absolutely think leaving him in there for one more play was a mistake. Full stop. And for the record, he needs to be fired, but not for this. I just hate to see people twist this into a Hoke doesn't care for his players thing when it's pretty clear that this is just another in a long string of incidents where he's been caught deer in headlights style during games. Some of the comments here are frankly nothing short of character assasination. [Title]

Output: I guess I'm doing a poor job


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Credit Nathan too. He hasn't exactly been lights out, but going 1-2-3 to close a game like he should was big. Hopefully he'll keep it going. [Title]

Output: Credit Nathan too. He hasn't


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] At that point the training staff, particularly the head trainer, had been with Morris and presumably cleared him to play. [Title]

Output: At that point the training


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Agreed, but what if in his initial interaction he determined a full evaluation wasn't necessary? [Title]

Output: Agreed, but what if in his


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] No, it's not. It's evidence of incompetence. Disregard implies not caring about the players. You can't see Hoke kneeling over an injured Dennis Norfleet last game, stroking his helmet and trying to comfort him and come to that conclusion. On the other hand there are multiple examples of the game moving too fast for Hoke. Hanlon's Razor says "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity," which I think applies here. [Title]

Output: No, it's not. It's evidence


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I find it pretty disingenious that the Gardner thing is now a knock on Hoke when we pretty much unanimously regarded it as a gutsy performance. Like I said in the front page thread, I can't help but feel that some are summoning up some extra indignation to justify letting Hoke go immediately (as if he hasn't done enough himself to justify it). [Title]

Output: I find it pretty disingenious


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] How do you know he wasn't cleared? Serious question. Paul Schmidt was on camera attending to Morris the whole time leading up to going back in and never took his helmet. [Title]

Output: How do you know he wasn't


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] I'm not a doctor and I can definitely see that based on the video evidence that it's likely. Like I said, the right thing is to take the kid out immediately to be safe. But on the other hand doing it one play later after the kid didn't want to come out initially is not the cataclysmic event everyone is making it out to be. [Title]

Output: I'm not a doctor and I can


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Paul Schmidt was right there immediately when he came off. I don't know what the initial evaluation is and if it was handled properly, but clearly Schmidt was on the situation. If he failed to do what the protocols say he should then that's one thing, but it could just as easily be that his initial interaction with Shane didn't suggest a concussion. [Title]

Output: Paul Schmidt was right there


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] That's exactly what I think happened. Things moved too quickly for Hoke and Co, and the inertia of the game got Shane through one more play before everyone came to their senses. Again, incompetence, not ill intent. [Title]

Output: That's exactly what I think


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Dude, did you see Gardner last year? Or Funchess the last 3 games for that matter? Concussions are one thing, playing hurt is another thing entirely and happens all the time. I don't get the double standard. Why is Gardner playing on a broken toe "gutsy" but Shane needs to come out at the first sign of a limp? [Title]

Output: Dude, did you see Gardner


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 1 day ago [Body] Look, I know it looks bad, and I get people are rightly sensitive when it comes to head injuries... but we don't have any confirmation that Morris is concussed. All armchair doctoring based on the video is just that. Again, it doen't look good, but there are still other possibilities to explain the way Morris looked, not the least possible of which is that he was just in so much pain from the aggregate hits to the leg. Paul Schmidt, 21 year veteran athletic trainer, attended to Morris immediately when he came out and unless Paul too is irresponsible and incompetent, didn't hold Morris out for the helmet fiasco a few plays later. Yes, you take the kid out either way until you're sure, but on the other hand he vehemently waved off the sidelines and got exactly one more play before the coaches overruled him. Bad judgement? Yes. Incompetent? Sure. Criminal? Evil? Abhorrent? I dunno... I can't help but feel that people are at least in part using this incident to get what they want, which is an immediate exit for Hoke. [Title]

Output: Look, I know it looks bad,


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] This guy is a genius. He gets paid more to not coach teams anymore than most coaches get for working. [Title]

Output: This guy is a genius. He gets


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] If Hoke is interimed, the guy holding the position in the meantime will probably be Mattison. Nuss is new and doesn't have long relationships with the players and the problems are on his side of the ball. The options pretty much end there. [Title]

Output: If Hoke is interimed, the guy


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Hoke will likely last the season but the search for his replacement has begun, if it didn't after ND. Maybe Brandon hasn't started looking, but someone at Michigan has already started the process. Schissel's ambivalent view of athletics worries me though. Hopefully someone is in his ear about the role football plays in the overall financial health of the school (for better or for worse). I have a sinking feeling that between contracts still to be paid, a presumed new AD potentially conservative in not wanting to risk too much financially, and the said ambivalence of the President that Michigan's war chest to buy a top hire won't be as impressive as we all think. [Title]

Output: Hoke will likely last the


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Somewhere in the second half my cable box died. I've been deathly ill the last few days with the flu and could hardly move. We were already down 6 and showed no signs of life on offense. Without hesitation, I scampered as fast I could up the stairs to my bedroom to watch on our second TV, the fastest I've moved in 3 days. The first play on the second TV? A tip ball pick six. That was enough.... finally, sweet release of geniunely not caring anymore. I watched the rest of the game in bed flipping channels (something I never do during Michigan games, even in commercials). [Title]

Output: My fandom in a nutshell this season


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] (Oh who am I kidding) [Title]

Output: (Oh who am I kidding)


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] That was bizarre and sad. Gardner has always been very supportive of Shane, even when he got benched last week. Something happened this week in practices that finally brought everything to a head. The sideline demeanor was terrible all game today. No one talking to anyone the entire time. [Title]

Output: That was bizarre and sad.


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Honestly, I moved from the "needs more time" camp to the "let's try and hold it together until the end of the season with some semblence of order" camp after ND. The upcoming change still scares me, especially given the available candidates, but at this point there's no other option. This team is fundamentally broken. [Title]

Output: Honestly, I moved from the


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Thanks for posting this. My memory was a little off on a couple of points and I have to say it makes Hoke look a lot worse. For one, I initially thought the Athletic Trainer had a chance to do a concusion test. Not only was there not enough time to, but he's on camera talking to Morris, but not administering the test. That means they sent him back out there without knowing his status. That's just plain awful For two, Bellomy was wandering around with a headset on 10-15 seconds after Gardner's helmet came off. It took the TV crew less time to realize he was needed and to find him on camera than it took the coaching staff. Inexcusable. [Title]

Output: Thanks for posting this. My


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] You just described pretty much Devin Gardner's whole 2013 season. I get the head thing and why people are (rightfully) sensitive about it, which is why they did take him out. One play too late and then inexplicably one more play later, but they still took him out pretty damn quick. People have played through much much worse as far as leg issues though (Funchess right now is another example). [Title]

Output: You just described pretty


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Head injuries are different and people are rightly more sensitive about them. That said, I sort of agree that people are looking at this with a very different lense than Gardner's 2013 pummelling. It's probably more that the game and season look lost as opposed to last year were we were in most games still until the near the end. [Title]

Output: Head injuries are different


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] I wasn't that upset with the Morris thing initially, but I have to say, the Hoke comments are infuriating. Talk about just not getting it. [Title]

Output: I wasn't that upset with the


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Again, I'm very much not defending him, the list of things that Hoke ought to notice that he hasn't is getting way too long. On the other hand, they did take him out... one play later and the only reason it wasn' immediately was because he refused to come out. It's negligence and incompetence, not maliciousness or callousness. Also, the commentators were clearly wrong as even their own broadcast showed Paul Schmitt shadowing Morris from when he first tweaked his ankle on. [Title]

Output: Again, I'm very much not


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] It honestly looked to me more like he couldn't put weight on the leg than loss of balance or being disoriented. But yes, not even noticing on Brady's part is inexcusable. [Title]

Output: It honestly looked to me more


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] I wasn't that upset with it initially. Like you said with the leg thing, lots of people play with those and we consider it gutsy in most cases. After the late hit, Morris was clearly motioning to the sideline that he didn't want to come out, so ok. Then they took him out pretty much immediately after that. The Bellmoy helmet thing upset me because how the fuck do you not tell the 3rd string guy to get ready. I'll give the trainers the benefit of the doubt they checked out Morris by then I guess. The thing I am pretty pissed about however, is that Brady mentioned postgame that he didn't notice Morris wobbly. That's inexcusable. Are you even fucking watching the game? The fucking QB takes head shot, there's a even a penalty called, but you don't even look his way to see if he's ok? I want to pull for him, but it's pretty clear at this point he's not cut out for head coaching at this level. [Title]

Output: I wasn't that upset with it


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] I'm not defending Brady's job, he's cooked. but Morris was clearly motioning that he did not want to come out. Then they took him out one or two plays later. I didn't think the sequence was as deplorable as most I guess. That said, the fact that Hoke didn't even notice is unreal. The guy just can't focus on the details enough to run a program. [Title]

Output: I'm not defending Brady's


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Yeah, I know that, but like I said, they took him out pretty much immediately after that. [Title]

Output: Yeah, I know that, but like I


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] I was pretty sure Hoke needed to go (90% after ND, 99% after Utah) but I tried not to be too open about because I wanted to wait until the end of the season and was hoping we could hold together and support the team until then at least. Now, whatever. The guy isn't the right guy. Wish it weren't so and the transition still scares me, but what we have right now is untenable. We couldn't even catch a bus back to tenable right now. [Title]

Output: I was pretty sure Hoke needed


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Of all the things, I'm kind of surprised people are the most upset at this. Gardner was gimpy most of last year and played a game on a broken foot. They took him out two plays after the late hit potential head injury, and only because Morris refused to come out. I'm not even sure it was a head hit, more like on the chin. The not calling the TO when Gardner's helmet came off was shitty, but Bellomy was on his way in until he couldn't find his helmet. I dunno, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they did a concussion check on Morris at that point and would have taken his helmet if he had failed. [Title]

Output: Of all the things, I'm kind


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] At least there's no doubt. [Title]

Output: At least there's no doubt.


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Oh absolutey. But OP was talking about taking him out much earlier, when he first tweaked the leg. They got him out one play too late on the late hit to the head (because Morris refused to come out, btw). And then obviously not calling the TO when Bellomy couldn't find his fucking helmet. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they did the concussion check on him by then though. [Title]

Output: Oh absolutey. But OP was


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Hoke needs to be fired, but Gardner played a game on a broken foot and we called it gutsy... just saying. [Title]

Output: Hoke needs to be fired, but


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] He'll be under his 3rd OC and QB coach next year.. so, probably not the best for his development. [Title]

Output: He'll be under his 3rd OC and


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] He's gone. Let's try to be civil about it. [Title]

Output: He's gone. Let's try to be


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Hagerup! [Title]

Output: Hagerup!


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Phew, big break there. [Title]

Output: Phew, big break there.


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Probably a good call actually. Two guys behind him ready to down it. Good execution (ugh) by Minn. [Title]

Output: Probably a good call


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] What's the flag for? [Title]

Output: What's the flag for?


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Oh I'm not upset about it, like you say, it's pretty normal. Still, to pick one guy out of 115 to highlight as the only one with drive and then seeing him out partying before gameday isn't exactly consistent. [Title]

Output: Oh I'm not upset about it,


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Kind of ironic the one guy Desmond Howard singled out as having a drive to be great in practice was A) actually hurt in practice and B) caught on social media doing things that are the opposite of that. [Title]

Output: Kind of ironic the one guy


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Title]

Output: (No subject)


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Unstoppable throw god showed up today. Plus PSU's OL may literally be the worst I have ever seen. It's amazing they managed to paper over it and remain undefeated until now. [Title]

Output: Unstoppable throw god showed


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] PSU guy blocking other PSU guy. Wow. Remember guys, it can always get worse. [Title]

Output: PSU guy blocking other PSU


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Yes, because fair would be to be as shitty to the backup as you are to the starter. [Title]

Output: Yes, because fair would be to


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] I thought he was the only one in practice that had swagger? J/K In all seriousness, if this is the week to have this happen. Next week we're on the road against Schrodinger's QB in Gary Nova. Hopefully he'll be back by then. [Title]

Output: I thought he was the only one


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] I think Hackenberg just died. [Title]

Output: I think Hackenberg just died.


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Best: The team sees an incredible turnaround. Goes 9-3 or 8-4 with at least one rival win Bad: Team collapses and we don't get bowl eligible. Worst: Hoke does ok (8-4 with both rival losses, or 7-5 with one rival win), gets fired anyway, No available candidates. Underwhelming comes into divided fanbase, runs off a bunch of players that don't fit the new system, recruiting craters. We go through another coaching transition in 3-4 years. [Title]

Output: Best: The team sees an


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 2 days ago [Body] Ok, fair inference that that might be the case, but it's still not what Desmond said. [Title]

Output: Ok, fair inference that that


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] Howard didn't say Hoke wasn't a good coach. He said the players lacked the drive to be great. [Title]

Output: Howard didn't say Hoke wasn't


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break. This is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've read here ever. What a gutless, cowardly, disingenuious thing to say. What have you done in your life to question Hoke's "fire?" Hoke started coaching at the HS level in 1982 and worked himself through the ranks (GVSU, Western Michigan, Toledo, Oregon State) before winning the Michigan DL coach job in 1995. He then left to earn his dues as a HC at Ball St in 2002, and then SDSU before coming back to Michigan. You have no fucking clue the amount of dedication it takes to grind for 30 years to reach your dream job in a cut throat, merciless profession like coaching. You have no idea the sacrifices he, and his family, have had to make along the way. It's all too easy for you, guy behind the keyboard, to question his effort and dedication, isn't it? [Title]

Output: Give Me A Fucking Break. This


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] PSU's DC seems to be allergic to carrying TEs down the seam. [Title]

Output: PSU's DC seems to be allergic


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] Exactly. You can't fucking win with the "no fire in the bell" argument. Guys being upbeat and happy? "Look, they don't even care." Guys looking depressed? "Look, they gave up." Guys getting mad? "Look, the team's falling apart." [Title]

Output: Exactly. You can't fucking


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] He did what you expect a FR to do in their first start, and Borges deserves some credit for giving him a good game plan to protect him a bit. He's been spotty in relief, but so has Gardner in his time. He's also not as bad as his stats suggest. I'm not sure he's the answer either, but it's pretty clear to me that he deserves the start today given the situation. [Title]

Output: He did what you expect a FR


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] We have a lot of problems. QB is one of them. Just because it isn't the only problem or even the biggest doesn't mean you don't try to address it. [Title]

Output: We have a lot of problems. QB


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] PSU's OL might be worse than ours last year. [Title]

Output: PSU's OL might be worse than


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] I really hate attacks on players' motivation. I mean, it could be true, but it could also be just a cliched thing to say about a team not doing well. There's no way to know what's in a player's heart, especially not after attending one practice, so I wish commentators would be a lot more careful about questioning effort. I dunno, I saw a team come out after a 1.5 hour weather delay with just about no chance to win and play hard to the finish. They have my benefit of the doubt that they're still working hard, and I think Desmond's comments should be taken with a healthy grain of salt. [Title]

Output: I really hate attacks on


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] Depends on attrition and recruiting impact, as well as how much the new guy's systems can use the guys we have. It's certainly possible to have instant success, but definitely not guaranteed. And then we might have a Hoke in 2011 situation were the guys getting older have a great season, but a hole in 2015 recruiting and attrition hits us a couple years later. [Title]

Output: Depends on attrition and


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] Probably not enough for another thread, but Chad is going to be an honorary captain Saturday, including going out for the opening coin toss. http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/09/chad_carr_4_named_... The 4-year-old grandson of University of Michigan coaching legend Lloyd Carr will join the U-M football team on Saturday, Sept. 27, as an honorary captain. He'll take the field for the coin toss before the team squares off against Minnesota Golden Gophers at 3:30 p.m. [Title]

Output: Probably not enough for


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] I've been a staunch Devin supporter all along until the last game. The time has come. I know the odds of Morris being much better (or any better) are slim, but you can't just keep sending Devin out there when he's clearly in a deep slump and probably hurt as well. If Morris collapses, then Gardner goes back in and you're right were you started off, minus one or two terrible turn-overs, which we're having anyway. You'll take that for a chance at a spark to jumpstart the offense. I also think you guys are selling Morris short. Yeah, he didn't look great in the scrimmages, but he was still better than Gardner both times. The KSU game was just fine for a true freshman start. They limited his risk and he did well in that circumstance, as planned. Pushing the ball downfield trying to make up a big deficit isn't exactly high percentage, nor has Gardner been great in that scenario either. [Title]

Output: I've been a staunch Devin


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] Was about 20 minutes from buying tickets Wednesday but ended up not because I was starting to come down with a flu. Glad I didn't because I'm completely need ridden right now. :( Would really have liked to, this is probably the last chance this season for me before Maryland. [Title]

Output: Was about 20 minutes from


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 3 days ago [Body] The vultures are circling. [Title]

Output: The vultures are circling.


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 4 days ago [Body] Maybe long term, DG to WR would make sense after Morris has had a couple good games under his belt, but I would be pretty surprised if he practiced anywhere but QB this week. Morris might get the start, but the odds of DG having to relieve him are way too high not to have Devin go through a solid week of prep. [Title]

Output: Maybe long term, DG to WR


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 4 days ago [Body] It certainly has the same everyone coming out of the woodwork to take shots feel [Title]

Output: It certainly has the same


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 4 days ago [Body] A good reminder there's more to life than wins and losses. Couldn't be prouder of this team despite the rough patch and get better soon Chad. [Title]

Output: A good reminder there's more


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Yup, anyone with a heart has to feel the same way. The only thing that makes me feel a bit better about it is I think Gardner could definitely use a week off to gather himself and probably heal up physically too. As disappointed as he has to be about this, I'm sure there's a part of him that is probably relieved too. Who knows how long this will last. too. If he doesn't give up, which nothing he's done so far indicates that he will, he could be right back in there next week, or heck it might even be earlier if Morris doesn't do well. [Title]

Output: Yup, anyone with a heart has


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 5 days ago [Body] The App St INT was mostly on Darboh not coming back to the ball, something he did to Gardner and got him an INT too against ND. The throw was late too in both cases, but running a lazy route on a long hitch like that is asking for the DB to recover and jump your route. He looked fine against Miami, his numbers suffered because of the two drops. Utah INT was mostly due to weather IMO. The ball just slipped out of his hands, Chesson was open. The fumble was in fact a true rookie mistake that they'll have to fix before he starts. I agree with the poster above. Getting a start with a week of prep and a game plan tailored to you very different than getting throw in mid game in garbage time or in tire fire time. I do think you're right that people should temper their expectations and not expect a complete transformation of the offense, but at the same time, he deserves a shot and at this point Michigan has to take that chance. [Title]

Output: The App St INT was mostly on


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Occam's Razor says he got old. [Title]

Output: Occam's Razor says he got


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 5 days ago [Body] This team's got 99 problems but stonewalling the press ain't 1. [Title]

Output: Meh


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 5 days ago [Body] It was fucking bizarre. How is someone in the outfield stands supposed to relay the sign back into the hitter from that distance in time? Also [Title]

Output: It was fucking bizarre. How


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Soria's coming off of injury though, perfect opportunity to work him in with no pressure. I actually was wondering if Sanchez would get the ninth for the same reason. [Title]

Output: Soria's coming off of injury


Input: [Date] 43 weeks 5 days ago [Body] Sale hitting Victor Martinez and then talking shit really woke the Tigers up. The binoculars thing Kinsler did right back to him was freaking priceless. [Title]

Output: Sale hitting Victor Martinez