Kylo Ren vs Rey and the confusion of relative force powers

Rating: Null/10 (22 December 2015)

Kylo Ren established early as having great control of the telekinetic powers of the force (freezing a laser blast mid-air)I would argue that this power exceeds Vader's in episode V (Darth using telekinetic power to propel objects at Luke during their battle, absorbing Solo's laser blast with his hand etc). Ren also seemed to have mastered a before unseen aspect of the force, namely reading the mind or thoughts of a defiant captive. We have seen Obi-Wan and Co put a thought in the mind, but not extract a thought. On the other hand, Lightsaber training in the galaxy over the past 30 years has seen some funding cutbacks, as he wielded his weapon somewhat clumsily and amateurishly (compared with Anakin-Obi-Wan-Luke-Darth Maul/Vader etc) Like many of you, I was baffled that Rey and Finn held their own against him in saber battle. Lets give our heroes the benefit of the doubt on that one, Both Rey and Finn throughout the movie showed themselves capable fighters and resourceful. Its conceivable that they had each spent several years training in swordsmanship. When Snoke spoke of completing Kylo Rens training he could well have meant teaching him how to wield the saber properly.
But 'the Force' in terms of ones telekinetic ability and influencing another's mind, I'm afraid Rey picked it up too easily. The satisfaction in seeing Luke use the force to pull his saber from the ice before being devoured by the ice-beast was palpable, as we were with him and witnessed his training. Seeing Obi-Wan confuse those stormtroopers to let he and Luke pass in EpIV, we marvelled at the possibility of the force and the training of this old man.
For Rey to just flick a switch in her mind and be able to control the mind of a stormtrooper and pull that saber from the ice, without training in the Jedi arts---it cheapens the whole mystique and commitment of the Jedi training. A little at a time please Disney, have the saber wiggle a little in the ice, not rush to her hand. What we learn easily and without effort is of no value.